From: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com (buffy-digest) To: buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: buffy-digest V2 #383 Reply-To: buffy@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-buffy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk buffy-digest Wednesday, July 22 1998 Volume 02 : Number 383 In this issue: BUFFY: New Slayer BUFFY: Movie reference BUFFY: SMG commericial BUFFY: Giles Re: BUFFY: New TV Guide interview BUFFY: Charisma Carpenter could have been Buffy Re: BUFFY: Backlot Break (Was SMG commericial) Re: BUFFY: Charisma Carpenter could have been Buffy BUFFY: What the heck?! Re: BUFFY: What the heck?! Re: BUFFY: What the heck?! Re: BUFFY: Charisma Carpenter could have been Buffy Re: BUFFY: Charisma Carpenter could have been Buffy Re: BUFFY: Charisma Carpenter could have been Buffy BUFFY: Sunnydale County? Re: BUFFY: Charisma Carpenter could have been Buffy BUFFY: Cast info needed Re: BUFFY: Charisma Carpenter could have been Buffy BUFFY: Buffy: Re:What the heck? Re: BUFFY: Charisma Carpenter could have been Buffy Re: BUFFY: Blah blah generation, vampires and short of evil guys Re: BUFFY: upcoming episodes Re: BUFFY: Charisma Carpenter leaving BtVS Re: BUFFY: Charisma Carpenter could have been Buffy BUFFY: cordy-LA Re: BUFFY: vampires Re: BUFFY: cordy-LA BUFFY: SMG Appearances? BUFFY: annointed one BUFFY: new characters on btvs BUFFY: Cordy's leaving (sob)... so Xander's new love interest will be... Re: BUFFY: Movie reference See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 13:38:47 -0700 (PDT) From: babydoll Subject: BUFFY: New Slayer S P O I L E R * * S P A C E * * I heard somewhere, but I don't know for sure, that the new slayer looks alot like Buffy and they mistake her for her at initial first glance, but they realize it isn't her. Charity Nothing real big here... but I *heard* from someone on another list that the new slayers name is Faith. == Things To Think About . . . ***I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. ***Everyone has a right to be stupid. Some just abuse the privilege. ***Time is Nature's way of making sure that everything doesn't Go Wrong at once. ***I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven't got the guts to bite people themselves. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 20:06:44 -0400 From: "Ryan Harrington" Subject: BUFFY: Movie reference Notice the '92 movie reference Giles makes at the begining pf The Dark Age, "And the rest is silence." ~Ryan - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 20:22:21 EDT From: Subject: BUFFY: SMG commericial Did you guys just see the new SMG commercial ti had her talking about how in the pilot episode she threw the cymbal and it almost killed a camera man! I hope Flagg got it! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 20:29:33 EDT From: Subject: BUFFY: Giles Why does everyone call Giles Giles? I mean shouldn't they call him Mr. Giles or Rupert? Did I miss something? - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:05:26 PDT From: "Kelly Girl" Subject: Re: BUFFY: New TV Guide interview i have it too..read it and loved the pic.. must see, must read! kellygirl ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 21:05:46 EDT From: fun-ee@juno.com (fu nee) Subject: BUFFY: Charisma Carpenter could have been Buffy I noticed some news that Charisma Carpenter who plays Cordelia might become a co-star on the new series Angel premiering in 1999. I guess being a co-star would be an upgrade from her present role as Cordelia on Buffy. Maybe this is appropriate because from past articles it has been revealed that Charisma was originally chosen for the role of Buffy before Sarah Michelle Gellar came along. Losing the starring role and playing a supporting role must have been something of a come-down for Charisma. I'm sure Joss Whedon remembers all the good reasons they almost gave Charisma the starring role and feels that a co-starring role with David B. would be a good reward of sorts for her portrayal of Cordelia. Still, losing two members of the BtVS series makes me a little apprehensive. It was the interactions between the various characters like Cordelia and Xander, Angel and Buffy, that provided so many good moments. It will be like losing part of a family. I suppose Angel and Cordelia could make crossover appearances in both series as could the other BtVS cast members. And, certainly, if the new series Angel fails, Angel and Cordelia could return to BtVS. This also brings up one other quite evident question: With Cordelia leaving Sunnydale for Los Angeles to join Angel at the end of the 3rd Season, will we see the breakup of Cordelia and Xander and the beginning of Xander and Willow's relationship? funee _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 21:18:18 -0400 From: "Gregg Andrews" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Backlot Break (Was SMG commericial) > Did you guys just see the new SMG commercial it had her talking about how > in the pilot episode she threw the cymbal and it almost killed a camera > man! i saw that. Thought to myself "this is new." But I liked it. I hope they do more of them.! Maybe some featuring different actors too - -Gregg DethKing@hunterdon.csnet.net **Keeper of Buffy's Theme Song, Music Collection, Butterfly Yo-Yo, and '1000 Nights' by Nickel as seen in "School Hard"** "If you're not jacked in, you're not alive." -Fritz' IR,YJ - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 20:24:00 -0600 From: Cyprus Subject: Re: BUFFY: Charisma Carpenter could have been Buffy Let me interject something here. This new Angel Series is a bad idea. Why? Because it is predicated on two faulty premises: 1) that Mr. Boreanz is a star and 2) that star quality is all that is needed to propel a WB series. No. David Boreanz is a very good actor but is only an excellent part of an excellent ensemble. Now, Sarah Michelle Gellar is often regarded as the star of the show. This is wrong. To be sure, she plays the title character, but as everyone on this list surely knows, the show would not be such a success if Miss Gellar were the only bright spot among a cast of mediocrities. No, the ensemble cast is truly the star of the show, and if you spread it out with spin-offs, I fear you will be diluting and, thus, damaging the effect of the ensemble. That's my two cents. ___________________________________________________________________________ Quae facie praesignis erit, resupina iaceto --Ovid ..."We're all animals," he said. "Basically, we're all animals." "Like hell we are. I'm no goddam animal. I may be a stupid, fouled-up twentieth-century son of a bitch, but I'm no animal..." --J.D. Salinger - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 20:04:23 -0600 From: kmasters@rof.net (Katie Masters) Subject: BUFFY: What the heck?! I was watching the Dark Ages and all of a sudden, when they were laughing over Giles' old photo the tape skipped to I Only Have Eyes FOr You scene inside Buffy's house. Did this happen to anyone else? ANd when are they showing this episode again? i really need to tape this and I missed everything from the photo scene to when Buffy is walking up tied to the table. Katie Keeper of Buffy's Nail Polish, WIllow's leather mini, Cordelia's stakes, and the heart necklace Xander gave cordy on V-Day. Guardian of Spike's feelings of rejection from Angel & Angel's adoptive mother Keeper of Roses Wine colored dress & white chiffon "Life is not a dress rehearsal" - Kate Winslet. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 22:13:43 -0400 From: "Ryan Harrington" Subject: Re: BUFFY: What the heck?! > I was watching the Dark Ages and all of a sudden, when they were laughing > over Giles' old photo the tape skipped to I Only Have Eyes FOr You scene > inside Buffy's house. Did this happen to anyone else? ANd when are they Um I don't know what your talking about. I didn't even think that we saw Giles' house in IOHEFY. ~Ryan - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 20:16:03 -0600 From: kmasters@rof.net (Katie Masters) Subject: Re: BUFFY: What the heck?! >> I was watching the Dark Ages and all of a sudden, when they were laughing >> over Giles' old photo the tape skipped to I Only Have Eyes FOr You scene >> inside Buffy's house. Did this happen to anyone else? ANd when are they > >Um I don't know what your talking about. I didn't even think that we saw >Giles' house in IOHEFY. Read it again. IT says Buffy's house Katie Keeper of Buffy's Nail Polish, WIllow's leather mini, Cordelia's stakes, and the heart necklace Xander gave cordy on V-Day. Guardian of Spike's feelings of rejection from Angel & Angel's adoptive mother Keeper of Roses Wine colored dress & white chiffon "Life is not a dress rehearsal" - Kate Winslet. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 22:19:40 EDT From: Subject: Re: BUFFY: Charisma Carpenter could have been Buffy In a message dated 07/21/1998 09:11:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, fun- ee@juno.com writes: << This also brings up one other quite evident question: With Cordelia leaving Sunnydale for Los Angeles to join Angel at the end of the 3rd Season, will we see the breakup of Cordelia and Xander and the beginning of Xander and Willow's relationship? >> I had a conversation with my sister about this yesterday. With Angel and Cordy gone, Buffy and Xander will be single. If Oz is still around, I'll guess that he and Willow will still be an item. Baring the introduction of new love interests, I think that Xander may finally get his wish to be with Buffy. Somehow I don't see Buffy and Oz together. I guess we'll just have to wait and see, but that's just my humble opinion. Thoughts?? Sarah When you are given love, it gives you wings. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 22:33:47 -0700 From: Lawless Subject: Re: BUFFY: Charisma Carpenter could have been Buffy Was she chosen for the role of Buffy and then demoted? I had always thought that she read for the role of Buffy, but they decided she would be better as Charisma, before any actual casting was done. Lawless fu nee wrote: > Buffy. Maybe this is appropriate because from past articles it has been > revealed that Charisma was originally chosen for the role of Buffy before > Sarah Michelle Gellar came along. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 22:46:38 -0400 From: "Jeff Rohaly" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Charisma Carpenter could have been Buffy Cyprus wrote: > No, the ensemble cast is truly the star of the > show, and if you spread it out with spin-offs, I fear you will be diluting > and, thus, damaging the effect of the ensemble. I think it's the ensemble cast as you point out, but also it's Joss' writing and the writing of the team he has put together. I'm a bit more worried about Joss spreading his talents thinner than I am about losing a few cast members. Am I wrong thinking that it would be easier to find a couple more able, attractive actors to fill out the cast than it would be to find more talented, creative writers? (I'm neither a writer nor an actor and I'm actually asking that question seriously.) That having been said, I'm still upset that we may be losing Cordelia. She's my favorite character, she gets great lines, I love the Cordy/Xander stuff and of course, Charisma Carpenter is stunningly easy to look at. (I apologize for ending that last sentence with a preposition but hey, that's just the type of wanton craziness that Ms. Carpenter brings out in me.) I still question this stuff too though. Doesn't it seem strange that we would learn about such a major career move for an actress from one of her co-stars, a co-star that (presumably) doesn't even have any creative control over this Angel series? Jeff Rohaly rohaly@iaw.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:50:15 PDT From: "Lady Cietdubh" Subject: BUFFY: Sunnydale County? Hey guys~! Does anyone have an idea what county Sunnydale's in. I don't thin it ever says exactly. How close is it to LA, anyway? Thanks Guys~! Lady Cietdubh ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:54:07 -0700 From: taygeta@juno.com (Charity C. T.) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Charisma Carpenter could have been Buffy On Tue, 21 Jul 1998 22:19:40 EDT writes: <> Woo-hoo! Someone who actually thinks that Buffy and Xander could have a shot with Angel and Cordy out of the picture (not that I want them out of the picture...just out of B/X romance way). Xander deserves a happy...he really does. I mean, Cordy's his girlfriend and all, but I'm always under the impression that there is an underlying lust in their relationship as opposed to love (which I have to admit is there...just in the caring type of love). Obviously, he's still in love with Buffy, Cordy knows this and I think she's getting more than ticked off about it (i.e. KBD and "Fine, watch my back.). He hasn't really said to anyone that he's in love with her, but it has been implied in those anvil type hints that I've mentioned before, and adding that his response to Angelus's "Buffy's White Knight. You still love her. It must just eat you up that I got there first." It's been suggested that Xander might take interest in the new slayer, but I don't think so. any thoughts on that? Charity _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:11:05 +1000 From: "jamiec" Subject: BUFFY: Cast info needed Hi, I'm just passing this on for a friend, please reply to her at btvsluv14@hotmail.com and not me. Anthony: 1.height 2.weight 3.sign 4.date of birth 5.are his eyes hazel David: 1.height 2.weight Alyson: 1.Height 2.weight 3.date of birth 4.are her eyes blue? 5.did she do any theater? if so what was the names? 6.sign Nicholas: 1.height 2.weight 3.eye color Charisma: 1.height 2.weight 3.date if birth 4.sign There will probably be more but right now this is all I can remember now. any help is appreciated! xoxo, Sarah - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 00:01:37 EDT From: Subject: Re: BUFFY: Charisma Carpenter could have been Buffy I had heard that it was the other way around. . .I seem to recall reading in some interview that SMG was originally cast as Cordy, but they moved her to Buffy, much to my satisfaction. : ) Anybody else remember this? A - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 00:05:44 EDT From: Subject: BUFFY: Buffy: Re:What the heck? In a message dated 98-07-21 22:16:01 EDT, you write: > I was watching the Dark Ages and all of a sudden, when they were laughing > > over Giles' old photo the tape skipped to I Only Have Eyes FOr You scene > > inside Buffy's house. Did this happen to anyone else? That happened to me as well! And something screwy happened during last night's ep as well, first there was no sound and no picture, then the sound came back, but there was still no picture, and then it cut to another show briefly. What is going on with the WB? A - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 22:08:04 -0600 From: kmasters@rof.net (Katie Masters) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Charisma Carpenter could have been Buffy At 12:01am 7/22/98, wrote: >I had heard that it was the other way around. . .I seem to recall reading in >some interview that SMG was originally cast as Cordy, but they moved her to >Buffy, much to my satisfaction. : ) Anybody else remember this? The way _I_ heard it was that Sarah went to audtion for Cordy because of her work on AMC. While she was there, she asked to be able to try out for Buffy and she got the part. Katie Keeper of Buffy's Nail Polish, WIllow's leather mini, Cordelia's stakes, and the heart necklace Xander gave cordy on V-Day. Guardian of Spike's feelings of rejection from Angel & Angel's adoptive mother Keeper of Roses Wine colored dress & white chiffon "Life is not a dress rehearsal" - Kate Winslet. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 21:47:15 -0700 From: Jeffrey Scott Nuttall Subject: Re: BUFFY: Blah blah generation, vampires and short of evil guys > ...But there are several clans of >vampires that are different species if you could call them that. The vampires >on Buffy are most likely Nosferatu (appearance) or Lasombra (can't see >reflection) .... If you >RPG there is a game called Vampire the Masquerade which tells you all of the >different clans..I think there are 8-10 in all. As someone already mentioned, these different clans were entirely inventions of White Wolf, the company that makes Vampire the Masquerade. There is absolutely no basis in traditional folklore and mythology for vampires to be divided into clans, and absolutely no reason to believe that the vampires in BtVS belong to one of the White Wolf vampire clans. It's difficult to say what the original idea of vampires was, because (like dragons and some other creatures of folklore and mythology) the idea seems to have originated more or less independently in many different areas, with some variations. The archetypal vampire, however, as far as Western culture is concerned, is the Eastern European version (the word "vampire" itself comes from the Bulgarian, and the second most common word for vampires in English, "nosferatu", comes from Old Slavonic, both Eastern European languages). Originally, the vampire was by no means the dapper, caped creature that is now associated with the word. This idea, as someone else mentioned, originated with certain famous vampire stories such as Bram Stoker's _Dracula_. The BtVS vampires are more similar in many ways to the traditional Eastern European vampires than to the modern version. (BtVS does seem to have borrowed some other elements from Stoker, however; there is some hint in Stoker of the vampires switching between human and demonic faces (though IIRC it is never made explicit), and the scene of Angel's becoming a vampire (with his mouth pressed against the vampiress's breast) is straight out of _Dracula_, except that the genders are reversed.) Of course, traditional vampires had some special abilities that the vampires on BtVS don't seem to have: the power to control animals, for example, and to change into the form of a mist or of certain animals themselves. A good web site on mythology and folklore that includes a good article on vampires is the Encyclopedia Mythica, http://www.pantheon.org/mythica. If you're interested in the traditional ideas of vampires as opposed to modern embellishments and changes, the article on vampires here is excellent, and contains a lot of interesting facts. (Note the connection between gypsies and vampire lore; I'm sure I don't have to point out to you how this relates to certain subplots in BtVS!) By the way, I just checked to see if this site also had an article on Moloch (since there were questions asked about him previously), and yep, he's there too. ----- Jeffrey Scott Nuttall smeazel@sozo.com http://www.sozo.com/sozo/people/JSN/index.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 22:03:35 -0700 From: Jeffrey Scott Nuttall Subject: Re: BUFFY: upcoming episodes > Hi! I was wondering if anyone knew which episodes will be shown for the >next month or so. Is there any website that would list them? Thanks Yes - the official Buffy web site, www.buffy.com. Go to the Bronze Community room (first go to the Bronze, then to the Lounge, and the link to the Community Room will be there, IIRC). Last I looked it had all the upcoming episodes listed up until the Season 3 premiere. ----- Jeffrey Scott Nuttall smeazel@sozo.com http://www.sozo.com/sozo/people/JSN/index.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 22:08:59 -0700 From: Jeffrey Scott Nuttall Subject: Re: BUFFY: Charisma Carpenter leaving BtVS > ... No, the ensemble cast is truly the star of the >show, and if you spread it out with spin-offs, I fear you will be diluting >and, thus, damaging the effect of the ensemble. Actually, personally, Angel and Cordelia are my two least favorite regular characters on BtVS, but that's not really saying much - I really like ALL the regular characters; I just don't like those two QUITE as much as the others. Anyway, yes, I too am apprehensive about their leaving the series, since they are a big part of the ensemble, but if this IS the case, then I'm sure the Buffy creators will come up with equally interesting characters to take their places and fill out the ensemble (and to flesh out the Angel series, which hopefully will have a similar kind of an ensemble cast as well. How about Whistler (I think that was his name; the good demon who helped Angel get on his feet after the curse)? You think he'll be a regular on the Angel series? I'm thinking it's a possibility...) >... will we see the breakup of Cordelia and Xander and the beginning >of Xander and Willow's relationship? I hope not! Not because I would have had anything against Xander and Willow together, per se, but because I really like Willow and Oz together. Oh, well. Che sera sera. ----- Jeffrey Scott Nuttall smeazel@sozo.com http://www.sozo.com/sozo/people/JSN/index.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 21:26:18 -0700 From: taygeta@juno.com (Charity C. T.) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Charisma Carpenter could have been Buffy On Tue, 21 Jul 1998 23:28:24 -0700 kenneth fox writes: >I'm a B/X fan too, and if Xander does become interested in the new >slayer I'd like to see Buffy become jealous. I think the B/X thing >would happen later in the season, because at the beginning there will be so >much grief and all of the stuff with getting Angel out of the vortex. > Jealousy would be a cool approach to it, but we're forgetting about one more barrier that they have to get over. Xander didn't tell Buffy about the curse! I personally felt it was for good reason, but who's to know what Buffy felt and how would that enter into this chain of events? I'm thinking (if..and I hope so...the story line ends in B/X) this whole "he didn't tell her" thing will kind of tear them apart as friends and as he becomes closer to the new slayer, Buffy's beginning to miss their close friendship, and she's going to realize how much she cares about him. Xander, meanwhile, is only friends with the new slayer, and he's still in love with Buffy...B/X fanfic idea to the extreme...to bad I'm waaayyy to busy with everything. ~Charity _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 00:55:50 -0500 From: Jennifer Bishop Subject: BUFFY: cordy-LA Maybe she moves there to go to college on a cheerleading scholarship at UCLA or something, not necessarily making a break-up from Xander necessary. I mean, they aren't that far away. IMHO, that would work well, since they are graduating this year. - -Jen - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:27:28 +0200 From: Joachim Jordan Subject: Re: BUFFY: vampires Hello ! Ice Witch wrote: > People cannot except this because of all the stereotypes that are > brought into society. You said that you, and I quote, "I don't want to > know that someone drinks blood, kills, enjoys it." Well, unless you're a > vegetarian, look in the mirror, and look around you, at society. I > personally would never enter a specific society that honors vampires or > become an actual vampire who drinks blood, but I respect their beliefs. If we are talking about human scoiety, there is another reason not to respect vampire believers. In general, we need the human society to survive. If cannibalism would be allowed, and vampires are some sort of cannibals, this would split the human society. We have to trust each other. And if you don't know if he/she may want to "eat" you in the next minute, there can be no trust. I think thats one of the reasons why our societies normally so strongly discourage cannibalism(vampirism) and i respect that, too. I know this is only a very simplified view of the problem, but first i'm now running out of time, and second, i'm not so sure myself. There are some very interesting facts about cannibalism in ape societies(chimpanses?) And i think that animal behaviour reseach can tell us very much about ourselves... > We don't know the world like the back of our own hand....perhaps things > like lycanthropy, fairies and vampires aren't so far from reality...Who > knows what walks in the shadows...Take Sunnydale for example, notice > everyone excluding Buffy, the Slayerettes, Giles, Snyder and the council > are completely stupid. How do we not know this is happening in actual > society? Just a few questions to leave you with... I'm an engineer, so i' only believe there is a vampire if you can show me some hard physical facts ;-)... Best regards - -- She came to me one morning, one lonely Sunday morning Her blond hair flowing in the mid-winter's wind I know not how she found me, for in darkness I was walking And destruction lay around me, from a fight I could not win In memory of Callisto: Lady in Black by Uriah Heep - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 22:36:18 -0700 From: taygeta@juno.com (Charity C. T.) Subject: Re: BUFFY: cordy-LA On Wed, 22 Jul 1998 00:55:50 -0500 Jennifer Bishop writes: >Maybe she moves there to go to college on a cheerleading scholarship >at UCLA or something, not necessarily making a break-up from Xander >necessary. I mean, they aren't that far away. >IMHO, that would work well, since they are graduating this year. Jen This brings another topic to mind...what *are* they going to do after the gang has done their hs graduating tasks? You can't possibly tell me that they are all going to same the college. 90210 pulled that...didn't work very well (IMO) or for the most part, it was rather cheesy that they all ended up in the same college. Any ideas? As for Cordy going to LA because of college, I think is the most likely explanation for her to be there. It *could* work that she and Xander are still together. I think I remember that a show did this once...um...the character was no longer on the show and had supposedly gone off to college, but they'd always mention him as if he was there and saw him all the time. An example would be: Angel: So what you do last night, Cordy? Cordy: Xander drove down and we went for dinner. See, he's mentioned, but he's not there. It works pretty well and since BtVS stars are suppose to guest star, it could work even better...not that I'm liking the idea of Cordy and Xander together (I'd be such a C/X fan, if the B/X fan in me wasn't so dominant). ~Charity _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 23:31:35 +0000 From: "M.S." Subject: BUFFY: SMG Appearances? Does anyone know of a site with a comprehensive listing of SMG's *upcoming* TV appearances (or Katie Holmes' for that matter)? I find out about the major interviews with enough time in advance (Letterman, Conan, Leno), but I'm sick of missing these Access Hollywood, ET, and Extra features that everyone always talks about. Thank in advance. msoontor@ucsd.edu - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 03:35:16 EDT From: Subject: BUFFY: annointed one In a message dated 98-07-21 00:13:54 EDT, you write: << Another good set of books is The Vampire Chronicles. It is a set of four books, and I apologize for not remembering who the author is...but it's even got the whole "good girl falls in love with vampire guy" story line. The books are "young adult" >> I don't know if this is the same but there is also a set of books called The Vampire Diaries...and it's a mortal girl falling in love with a good vampire. In this series, the vampire lore is different because apparently a vampire can chose to be good or bad--they still have their souls and it's just choosing a lifestyle of sucking the blood out of humans or ducks..it's also young adult and i thought it was very good when i read them four years ago. but a definite recommend if you're bored. the author is L.J. Smith. There are four novels. The Awakening, The Struggle, The Fury, and the fourth wasn't originally part of the trilogy, but i've lost it and can't recall the title. OB buffy: has anyone noticed the annointed one's weird special effects voice? there's an eerie echo to his words and deeper tenor to his voice than that of a child. i don't remember those effects on his voice during his brief appearance second season. or am i wrong? - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 04:00:54 EDT From: Subject: BUFFY: new characters on btvs In a message dated 98-07-22 01:24:45 EDT, you write: << but if this IS the case, then I'm sure the Buffy creators will come up with equally interesting characters to take their places and fill out the ensemble >> Speaking of which, does anyone know if next season will introduce new characters, besides just making Seth Green a regular? It would be interesting for new elements to be thrown into the buffy gang. New friends who aren't in on the secret? It was so much fun watching buffy keep owen from finding out in NKABOTFD. sudden random thought: why is everyone on the show an only child? isn't that strange? we know buffy is definitely an only child. willow, xander, cordy, oz....i'm assuming they all are simply because none have popped up. jewels jewels79@aol.com Keeper of Xander's Betel Nuts (RB)~Keeper of Willow's Tower of Cheese (IMG) Keeper of Buffy's History test (N)~Keeper of Xander's sore fist (RB)~Keeper of Giles' Lost Weekend (TDA)~GASper~BAH, xander wing #309~ "Oh, no, my life's not too complicated." Xander, Phases. "Who is that girl?" Oz. "The big moments are gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterward that counts. That's when you find out who you are." Whistler, Becoming. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 05:55:05 EDT From: Subject: BUFFY: Cordy's leaving (sob)... so Xander's new love interest will be... In a message dated 98-07-22 01:24:45 EDT, smeazel@sozo.com writes: << will we see the breakup of Cordelia and Xander and the beginning >of Xander and Willow's relationship? >> Cordy's leaving (sob)... so Xander's new love interest will be... BUFFY!! ... I know you all hate it... but at least give it a chance. If you still don't like it and, more importantly... if Joss doesn't like the way it works out.... it won't last long. But we Buffy/Xander fans learned to refrain throwing up and to put away our jealous tendency's when Buffy and Angel were together. Let us have the lime light for a little while. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 08:35:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Gubs Subject: Re: BUFFY: Movie reference > Notice the '92 movie reference Giles makes at the begining pf The Dark Age, > "And the rest is silence." > ~Ryan > > - > > My guess being Giles that it was more likely he was just quoting shakespear as opposed to making the refrence. SOmetime looking to hard can lead you to find stuff that might not be there Gubs gnn200@is7.nyu.edu,gabe31@juno.com,nich9354@sparky.cs.nyu.edu - - ------------------------------ End of buffy-digest V2 #383 *************************** To subscribe to buffy or buffy-digest, send the command subscribe buffy-digest or subscribe buffy to majordomo@xmission.com. You will need to go through a confirmation process, and the listowners have to manually approve your subscription request, so it may take some time. Back issues of this digest can be found at: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/buffy/archive/ For help, contact Jill Kirby (jtkirby@mcs.com) or sah (romana@mindspring.com)