From: "Rebecca Mikkelsen" Subject: Re: (cdc) Just a question Date: 04 Jan 1999 07:29:22 -0700 > I think we're planning in going to Coronation, but when is it? > Thanks > Ciarrai > > Coronation is this weekend--January 9 $ 10 in Salt Lake City. Rebecca ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: macnbeach@juno.com (Carrie A. Beach) Subject: (cdc) Fwd: What January is really like Date: 04 Jan 1999 10:00:17 -0700 Good Evening, Everybody, This is just too funny and well-written, and I just had to share. Ciarrai Twas the month after Christmas and all through the house, Nothing would fit me, not even a blouse. The cookies I'd nibbled, the eggnog I'd taste, all the holiday parties had gone to my waist. When I got on the scales there arose such a number! When I walked to the store (less a walk than a lumber) I'd remember the marvelous meals I'd prepared; The gravies and sauces and beef nicely rared, the punch and the cookies, the bread and the cheese, and the way I'd never said "No thank you Please". As I dresses myself in my husbands old shirt, and prepared once again to do battle with dirt--- I said to myself, as only I can, "YOu can't spend all winter disguised as a man!" so---away with the last of the sour cream dip, Get rid of the fruitcake, every cracker and chip, Every last bit of food that I like must be banished, "Till all the additional ounces have vanished." I won't have a cookie--not even a lick, I'll want only to chew on a long celery stick. I won't have hot biscuits, or corn bread, or pie, I'll munch on a carrot, and quietly cry. I'm hungry, I'm lonesome, and life is a bore-- But isn't that what January is for? Unable to giggle, no longer a riot. Happy New Year to all, and to all a good diet! --part0_915425058_boundary-- --------- End forwarded message ---------- ________________________________________________________________ Get secure free e-mail that you don't need Web access to use from Juno, the world's second largest online service. Download your free software at http://www.juno.com/getit.b.html. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: macnbeach@juno.com (Carrie A. Beach) Subject: (cdc) Corination Date: 04 Jan 1999 10:24:34 -0700 Where and what time is Coronation? I looked around on the Kingdom web site and Cote du Ceil's and couldn't find any information on it. Thanks Ciarrai ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rebecca Mikkelsen" Subject: (cdc) Renaissance Fair Date: 04 Jan 1999 11:50:13 -0700 Today I reserved Willow Park for the Renaissance Fair to be held on May 1. We have all of the area where we hold summer fighters' practices, and the covered pavillion, cement pad, and fireplace areas. The cost was $150 (the money USU gives us will cover this cost). By reserving this whole area, we will avoid conflict with any other event (such as a Cinco de Mayo carnival which they had last year at the park) There may be an additional cost--According to the new rules established for Special Events at the park, we might be required to hire Logan City Police Officers for security. Because of the nature of our event, and because we have not had any problems in the past (and one of the parks directors I spoke to today didn't forsee any problems), we might not have to hire a police officer. If we do, the charge is $35 per hour (do the math--that is a whopping $280 for 10 am to 6 pm) We will be allowed to set up the night before the Faire. Because May 1st is the first day for which reservations are available, we won't be charged the reservation fee for the park for setting up the night before (however, in the future, we will have to pay the full-day fee for both days, if both days fall within the regular reservation period). We can have a couple of people stay overnight to guard the area. If anyone can schedule to have Friday, April 30, off work to help set up, your help would be greatly appreciated. (I realize that the next week is finals week and that many of you will be needing to study, but if you could schedule your studying so that you can be available on Friday and Saturday, the shire will need your help) A reminder: Everyone is required to be there on Saturday to help with the Faire. If we don't do the Faire, the shire will have to start charging each member of the shire about $30-40 each to take care of our financial commitment to the Whittier Center) We have so much to set up and it will get dark fairly early in the evening (I would guess that set up after 7 pm will be pretty much impossible.) We won't be able to drive cars (and maybe not trailers--I'll check) onto the grass for unloading, loading, or for using car headlights to help set up. A suggestion was made to look at having the Faire at the Tabernacle grounds. I spoke to the guy who is charge of reservations and he asked me to send him a letter detailing what we would be doing. I received a letter back saying that our request was denied. Unless we can come up with another venue, Willow Park is it. Rebecca ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rebecca Mikkelsen" Subject: (cdc) Viking info Date: 05 Jan 1999 08:50:28 -0700 For all you Viking types out there--here is a website with loads of info. I can recommend Gunnora as a good source (she is a Laurel who also maintains a Laurels-only list-serve) (Note to Francesca: are you collecting sources like this for the shire arts file?) Rebecca Forwarded message follows: I am pleased to announce that the Viking Answer Lady website (http://www.realtime.com/~gunnora) has finally been completely redesigned for a more up-to-date look, plus better navigation. And of course, new articles have been added as well. Look for more new articles to come in the next few months! Brand-New Articles: ====================================================================== The First Viking Raid in Europe: A furore Normannorum libera nos, Domine (General Articles Section) A look at the first recorded Viking raid at Lindisfarne in 793 and the origins of the commonly quoted phrase, "From the fury of the Northmen deliver me, O Lord". The Beasts of Battle: Raven, Eagle and Wolf (Arts & Literature Section) The use of the Beasts of Battle theme, naming the scavenger beasts of the battlefield` in poetry to evoke a battle scene, is one of the hallmarks of Old Norse and Old English poetry. This article examines the mythological associations connected with each of the Beasts and shows how these associations can be used in poetry to amplify the underlying meaning of the poem. Recently Added Articles: ====================================================================== Review of Books for Children about the Vikings (Bibliography/Books Section) Just in time for Yule -- stocking stuffers for your young readers and little Vikings. There are some books here that adults will appreciate as well. What kind of pets and domestic animals did the Vikings keep? (Agriculture Section) History and information about cats, dogs, unusual pets and a range of domestic animals. Duelling - Holmgang and Einvige (Warfare Section) An in-depth look at the Viking forms of the duel and how the duel evolved over time as Viking society changed. Viking Horses (Agriculture Section) Horse breeds, archaeological remains, saddles, bridles, bits, stirrups - a little of everything about Viking horses. And Don't Miss the Viking Answer Lady Article Archives: ====================================================================== GENERAL ARTICLES Definition of "Viking" Viking Age Timeline The First Viking Raid DAILY LIFE Viking Foods Viking Women's Clothing Viking Clothing Decoration and Embroidery Viking Games and Pasttimes Viking Wedding Ceremony Homosexuality in the Viking Age Purchasing Amber AGRICULTURE Viking Horses Viking Pets and Domestic Animals TECHNOLOGY Viking Ships Viking Navigational Tools and Techniques Viking Constellation Names Runic Calendars ARTS & LITERATURE Finnish and Viking Poetry The Beasts of Battle Theme in Germanic Poetry MYTHOLOGY & RELIGION Viking Ghosts White Christ and Red Thorr WARFARE Holmgang Berkerkergang Viking Armor and Weapons SETTLEMENTS & EXPANSION Viking Invasions in Wales Vikings in Russia: the Risala of Ibn Fadlan. BIBLIOGRAPHY Childrens' Books About the Viking Age Enjoy! W=B5s =A6u H=B5l (Waes Thu Hael) ::GUNNORA:: Gunnora Hallakarva Herskerinde <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Ek eigi visa =A6ik hversu o=3Dlask Lofstirrlauf-Kruna heldr hversu na Hers= is-A=3Dal (Ek eigi thik hversu odhlask Lofstirrlauf-Kruna heldr hversu na Hersis-Adh= al) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Olan G Mikkelsen" Subject: (cdc) Artemisian Coronation Event Announcement Date: 05 Jan 1999 10:26:14 -0700 Ciarrai, Here's the info you asked for. Landolf ---------------------- Forwarded by Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG on 01/05/99 10:25 AM --------------------------- Bagpiper@aol.com on 01/03/99 03:40:24 AM Please respond to artemisia@server.umt.edu cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG) Now for a word from our sponsors.... Artemisian Coronation January 9, 1999 Salt Lake City, UT Upon the tenth day of October AS XXXIII did the honorable and chivalrous fighters of the Kingdom of Artemisia meet to do combat for the most coveted Crown of Artemisia. Many met and did acquit themselves nobly upon the field. In the end, Viscount Sir Sean Kirkpatrick Tarragon and Viscount Sir Basil der Drache did face one another. After many rounds which did provide example following example of noble behavior and chivalrous combat Sir Sean did emerge victorious. As a result, the Coronation of Viscount Sir Sean and his beautiful and virtuous lday, Kassandra Eymann, shall be held on the ninth day of January AS XXXIII in the ancient Barony of Loch Salann. The site for this auspicious event will be the Prophet Elias Greek Orthodox Church. The site will open at 9:00 AM and will close at 11:30 PM. The final court of Their Majesties Alan and Corisande will begin at 10:00 with the Coronation of Their Royal Highnesses Sean and Kassandra to follow soon thereafter. Following the Coronation of the List for the Royal Rapier Champion will be held. A dinner break is scheduled for 6:00 PM. The populace is invited back for dancing with the music provided by the Loch Salann Musician's Guyild. During the dancing we will take some time out to hold the Bard of Artemisia Competition. Also, a dessert buffet will be provided (if you would like to bring a dessert to share, please contact the autocrat). On the following day, the Tournaments for the Kings and Queens Champion will be held. There will be no opening court. The List will be open from 9:00 AM to 10:00 AM ONLY. The tournaments will commence IMMEDIATELY following. The site for the Tournaments will be the Little Theater in Murray Park. The site for Saturday is discreetly damp (no can, bottles or hard liqour please) and the Sunday site is very dry. Pets are not allowed at the Saturday site but are alright at the Sunday site. Both the Saturday and Sunday sites are handicapped accessible. DIRECTIONS FOR SATURDAY: From the north or south take I-15 (yes we know that constructions makes these directions uncertain) and take either the 4500 South or 3300 South exit. One of these should be open for the direction you're coming from. Following one of these streets East until you come to Highland Drive, Turn right onto Highland Drive and follow it Sourth past the Cottonwood Mall. The site will be on your left (east) side. The address is 5335 South Highland Drive. There will be signs posted out front. DIRECTIONS FOR SUNDAY: From the North or South take the 5400 South exit. Turn East and follow 5400 South to State Street. Turn left onto State Street. The entrance to Murray Park will be on your right side approximately the distance of two blocks. There will be signs posted. SITE FEE: $8.00 with $1.00 discount for member for both days. Make checks payable to "The Barony of Loch Salann, SCA Inc.". Autocrat: Lady Aurelia of Whitebrooke (Alison Axland) 801.486.8227 ?? 2730 South 1100 East #11, Salt Lake City, UT Marshal: Lord Connor MacAulay 801.561.0690 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "CHARLENE CHABRIES" Subject: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? Date: 11 Jan 1999 14:07:13 -0700 Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? Because the cow has the "udder" Something to lighten your day!!! Lady Rixa ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Olan G Mikkelsen" Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? Date: 11 Jan 1999 14:30:49 -0700 My milking stool only had one leg. I we had only one cow and she had the 'udder', where are the other two legs? Pour over that one for a while, Landolf "CHARLENE CHABRIES" on 01/11/99 02:07:13 PM Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? Because the cow has the "udder" Something to lighten your day!!! Lady Rixa ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "CHARLENE CHABRIES" Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? Date: 11 Jan 1999 14:32:51 -0700 Were you not using your own two legs? >>> "Olan G Mikkelsen" 01/11 2:30 PM >>> My milking stool only had one leg. I we had only one cow and she had the 'udder', where are the other two legs? Pour over that one for a while, Landolf "CHARLENE CHABRIES" on 01/11/99 02:07:13 PM Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com=20 cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? Because the cow has the "udder" Something to lighten your day!!! Lady Rixa ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Olan G Mikkelsen" Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? Date: 11 Jan 1999 14:35:42 -0700 Yes, to run away when the cow started to kick. She was a mean one. "CHARLENE CHABRIES" on 01/11/99 02:32:51 PM Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG) Were you not using your own two legs? >>> "Olan G Mikkelsen" 01/11 2:30 PM >>> My milking stool only had one leg. I we had only one cow and she had the 'udder', where are the other two legs? Pour over that one for a while, Landolf "CHARLENE CHABRIES" on 01/11/99 02:07:13 PM Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? Because the cow has the "udder" Something to lighten your day!!! Lady Rixa ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Lowe Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? Date: 11 Jan 1999 14:55:08 -0700 CHARLENE CHABRIES wrote: > Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? > Because the cow has the "udder" > > Something to lighten your day!!! > > Lady Rixa You are soooo udderly cool! Thanks! jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Janice Hugie Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? Date: 11 Jan 1999 23:31:09 -0700 With the guy using one as a 'peg leg' and the other as a club for the cow! *LOL* Yolande....(hehehehee) >My milking stool only had one leg. I we had only one cow and she had the >'udder', where are the other two legs? >Pour over that one for a while, >Landolf > > > > >"CHARLENE CHABRIES" on 01/11/99 02:07:13 PM > >Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com > >To: CDC@lists.xmission.com >cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG) >Subject: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? > > > > >Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? >Because the cow has the "udder" > >Something to lighten your day!!! > >Lady Rixa > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Janice Hugie Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? Date: 11 Jan 1999 23:32:34 -0700 No hobbles? (I believe thats what their called) Yolande >Yes, to run away when the cow started to kick. She was a mean one. > > > > >"CHARLENE CHABRIES" on 01/11/99 02:32:51 PM > >Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com > >To: cdc@lists.xmission.com >cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG) >Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? > > > > >Were you not using your own two legs? > >>>> "Olan G Mikkelsen" 01/11 2:30 PM >>> >My milking stool only had one leg. I we had only one cow and she had the >'udder', where are the other two legs? >Pour over that one for a while, >Landolf > > > > >"CHARLENE CHABRIES" on 01/11/99 02:07:13 PM > >Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com > >To: CDC@lists.xmission.com >cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG) >Subject: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? > > > > >Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? >Because the cow has the "udder" > >Something to lighten your day!!! > >Lady Rixa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Olan G Mikkelsen" Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? Date: 12 Jan 1999 06:58:20 -0700 Yes, I hobbled her. I also tipped her over against the wall and tied her tail to the wall. But when she finished her grain I had to be finished milking or the fight started. Needless to say I got pretty fast at milking her. Landolf Janice Hugie on 01/11/99 11:32:34 PM Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG) No hobbles? (I believe thats what their called) Yolande >Yes, to run away when the cow started to kick. She was a mean one. > > > > >"CHARLENE CHABRIES" on 01/11/99 02:32:51 PM > >Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com > >To: cdc@lists.xmission.com >cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG) >Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? > > > > >Were you not using your own two legs? > >>>> "Olan G Mikkelsen" 01/11 2:30 PM >>> >My milking stool only had one leg. I we had only one cow and she had the >'udder', where are the other two legs? >Pour over that one for a while, >Landolf > > > > >"CHARLENE CHABRIES" on 01/11/99 02:07:13 PM > >Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com > >To: CDC@lists.xmission.com >cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG) >Subject: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? > > > > >Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? >Because the cow has the "udder" > >Something to lighten your day!!! > >Lady Rixa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Merrill C. Pugmire" Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? Date: 12 Jan 1999 15:11:37 -0700 >Yes, I hobbled her. I also tipped her over against the wall and tied her >tail to the wall. But when she finished her grain I had to be finished >milking or the fight started. Needless to say I got pretty fast at milking >her. >Landolf Gee you had it worse than I did. My Grandpa's cow wouldn't come when it was time so we had to look for her in a cowpie filled feild with great big scary cows. My cousin used to cry when it was his turn. Then we'd put her in the shed, tie her tail to her leg and pray she liked us because she had a tendancy to step into the bucket if we didn't and we'd have green tinged milk. Of course if she stepped in the bucket we'd have to get a new one which made her even more "ornry." Francesca da Bari ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Lowe Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? Date: 13 Jan 1999 07:55:06 -0700 "Merrill C. Pugmire" wrote: > >Yes, I hobbled her. I also tipped her over against the wall and tied her > >tail to the wall. But when she finished her grain I had to be finished > >milking or the fight started. Needless to say I got pretty fast at milking > >her. > >Landolf > > Gee you had it worse than I did. My Grandpa's cow wouldn't come when it was > time so we had to look for her in a cowpie filled feild with great big > scary cows. My cousin used to cry when it was his turn. Then we'd put her > in the shed, tie her tail to her leg and pray she liked us because she had > a tendancy to step into the bucket if we didn't and we'd have green tinged > milk. Of course if she stepped in the bucket we'd have to get a new one > which made her even more "ornry." > > Francesca da Bari THats why wen I was a kid we didn't milk cows, we ate them. (he,he.) Jurgi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Olan G Mikkelsen" Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? Date: 13 Jan 1999 07:56:04 -0700 We eventually ate this one, too. While I was at university I worked for the USU Ag Dept as an info systems specialist. My tasks included tech support for the Dairy Sciences Dept. I asked one of the researchers at the dairy what they did about cows that exhibited neurotic behavior. The researcher told me, "We make them into hamburger." Landolf Jeff Lowe on 01/13/99 07:55:06 AM Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG) "Merrill C. Pugmire" wrote: > >Yes, I hobbled her. I also tipped her over against the wall and tied her > >tail to the wall. But when she finished her grain I had to be finished > >milking or the fight started. Needless to say I got pretty fast at milking > >her. > >Landolf > > Gee you had it worse than I did. My Grandpa's cow wouldn't come when it was > time so we had to look for her in a cowpie filled feild with great big > scary cows. My cousin used to cry when it was his turn. Then we'd put her > in the shed, tie her tail to her leg and pray she liked us because she had > a tendancy to step into the bucket if we didn't and we'd have green tinged > milk. Of course if she stepped in the bucket we'd have to get a new one > which made her even more "ornry." > > Francesca da Bari THats why wen I was a kid we didn't milk cows, we ate them. (he,he.) Jurgi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Lowe Subject: (cdc) Armor links Date: 13 Jan 1999 08:14:41 -0700 I found a great Armor links page which includes Illusions and DarkHeart. I've looked into some and they seem to be ok. At least they gave me a better idea of prices and made me feel better about the prices I charge and the fact that I'm saving myself ,000's of $'s. I've decided to make some more Armor and hopfully I've arrived at a good, solid, usable pattern that will last me the rest of my SCA experience. The links page is: www.io.com/~therion1/resources.html If there is any of you who needs armor and wants to pay me to make it, We can discuss it. With the completion of my new shop I am in the position to do such things now. Well, thanks! Jurgi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Lowe Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? Date: 13 Jan 1999 08:23:08 -0700 Olan G Mikkelsen wrote: > We eventually ate this one, too. > While I was at university I worked for the USU Ag Dept as an info systems > specialist. My tasks included tech support for the Dairy Sciences Dept. I > asked one of the researchers at the dairy what they did about cows that > exhibited neurotic behavior. The researcher told me, "We make them into > hamburger." > Landolf > No wonder! (Light goes on in head. Small wattage, Nite-lite type with a intermitent short.) I always seem to end up with the neurotic hamburgers! They're the kind that always seem to spill ketcup down your lap and the patty slides around between the lettuce and tomato. Jurgi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Janice Hugie Subject: (cdc) Neurotic cows Date: 13 Jan 1999 09:19:01 -0700 *ROTFLTDWTIME* Yolande >We eventually ate this one, too. >While I was at university I worked for the USU Ag Dept as an info systems >specialist. My tasks included tech support for the Dairy Sciences Dept. I >asked one of the researchers at the dairy what they did about cows that >exhibited neurotic behavior. The researcher told me, "We make them into >hamburger." >Landolf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Randy Chabries Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? Date: 13 Jan 1999 09:33:19 -0700 Don't you think we've milked this subject long enough? Rand ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "CHARLENE Chabries" Subject: (cdc) Laws of Work Date: 13 Jan 1999 09:51:03 -0700 1.A pat on the back is only a few centimeters from a kick in the butt.=20 2.Don't be irreplaceable, if you can't be replaced, you can't be promoted.=20 3.It doesn't matter what you do, it only matters what you say you've done and what you're going to do.=20 4.After any salary raise, you will have less money at the end of the month than you did before.=20 5.You can go anywhere you want if you look serious and carry a clipboard.=20 6.When the bosses talk about improving productivity, they are never talking about themselves.=20 7.If at first you don't succeed, try again. Then quit. No use being a damn fool about it.=20 8.Keep your boss's boss off your boss's back.=20 9.Never delay the ending of a meeting or the beginning of a cocktail hour.=20 10.To err is human, to forgive is not our policy.=20 11.People who go to conferences are the ones who shouldn't.=20 12.If it wasn't for the last minute, nothing would get done.=20 13.When you don't know what to do, walk fast and look worried.=20 14.When confronted by a difficult problem you can solve it more easily by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?"=20 15.No matter how much you do, you never do enough.=20 16.The last person that quit or was fired will be held responsible for everything that goes wrong.=20 Have a Great Day at work everyone!!! Rixa ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Janice Hugie Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? Date: 13 Jan 1999 09:49:58 -0700 Boo, Hiss, Boo, Hiss or is that Moo, Miss, Moo, Miss (hehehehehee) Yolande >Don't you think we've milked this subject long enough? >Rand > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rebecca Mikkelsen" Subject: Re: (cdc) Laws of Work Date: 13 Jan 1999 10:18:22 -0700 You have been to my office, haven't you! Rebecca > > 1.A pat on the back is only a few > centimeters from a kick in the butt. > 2.Don't be irreplaceable, if you can't be > replaced, you can't be promoted. > 3.It doesn't matter what you do, it only > matters what you say you've done and > what you're going to do. > 4.After any salary raise, you will have > less money at the end of the month than > you did before. > 5.You can go anywhere you want if you > look serious and carry a clipboard. > 6.When the bosses talk about improving > productivity, they are never talking > about themselves. > 7.If at first you don't succeed, try again. > Then quit. No use being a damn fool > about it. > 8.Keep your boss's boss off your boss's > back. > 9.Never delay the ending of a meeting or > the beginning of a cocktail hour. > 10.To err is human, to forgive is not our > policy. > 11.People who go to conferences are the > ones who shouldn't. > 12.If it wasn't for the last minute, nothing > would get done. > 13.When you don't know what to do, walk > fast and look worried. > 14.When confronted by a difficult problem > you can solve it more easily by reducing > it to the question, "How would the Lone > Ranger handle this?" > 15.No matter how much you do, > you never do enough. > 16.The last person that quit or was > fired will be held responsible > for everything that goes wrong. > > Have a Great Day at work everyone!!! > > Rixa > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "CHARLENE Chabries" Subject: Re: (cdc) Laws of Work Date: 13 Jan 1999 10:17:12 -0700 Is it government related? Then the answer my friend is been there done = that. Rixa >>> "Rebecca Mikkelsen" 01/13 10:18 = AM >>> You have been to my office, haven't you! Rebecca >=20 > 1.A pat on the back is only a few > centimeters from a kick in the butt.=20 > 2.Don't be irreplaceable, if you can't be > replaced, you can't be promoted.=20 > 3.It doesn't matter what you do, it only > matters what you say you've done and > what you're going to do.=20 > 4.After any salary raise, you will have > less money at the end of the month than > you did before.=20 > 5.You can go anywhere you want if you > look serious and carry a clipboard.=20 > 6.When the bosses talk about improving > productivity, they are never talking > about themselves.=20 > 7.If at first you don't succeed, try again. > Then quit. No use being a damn fool > about it.=20 > 8.Keep your boss's boss off your boss's > back.=20 > 9.Never delay the ending of a meeting or > the beginning of a cocktail hour.=20 > 10.To err is human, to forgive is not our > policy.=20 > 11.People who go to conferences are the > ones who shouldn't.=20 > 12.If it wasn't for the last minute, nothing > would get done.=20 > 13.When you don't know what to do, walk > fast and look worried.=20 > 14.When confronted by a difficult problem > you can solve it more easily by reducing > it to the question, "How would the Lone > Ranger handle this?"=20 > 15.No matter how much you do, > you never do enough.=20 > 16.The last person that quit or was > fired will be held responsible > for everything that goes wrong.=20 >=20 > Have a Great Day at work everyone!!! >=20 > Rixa >=20 >=20 >=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Olan G Mikkelsen" Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? Date: 14 Jan 1999 06:56:59 -0700 What's wrong, Rand? Feeling a little cowed? Landolf Randy Chabries on 01/13/2001 09:33:19 AM Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG) Don't you think we've milked this subject long enough? Rand ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Olan G Mikkelsen" Subject: (cdc) Seige Engines Date: 14 Jan 1999 12:18:21 -0700 Angus, Are you interested in this? Is anyone else interested? Landolf ---------------------- Forwarded by Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG on 01/14/99 12:17 PM --------------------------- "Robert D. Crisco" on 01/14/99 11:36:36 AM Please respond to artemisia@server.umt.edu cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG) I am planning on possible recreating some catapults and other seige weapons. If there is a group in or near Utah interested, please contact me. I have the plans and money,but we need a place to build it and launch it. I can do some of the wood work, but we need a good place to launch it. 'Let's kill the enemy before they even get halfway across the field' William, Siege Engineer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "CHARLENE Chabries" Subject: (cdc) Thought for the Day Date: 14 Jan 1999 14:02:51 -0700 Why do male deer need braces??? They have buck teeth. Have a great day!!! Rixa PS Jurgi/Angus - I didn't bring my membership # to=20 work with me today. Be hopeful for tomorrow. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Randy Chabries Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? Date: 15 Jan 1999 15:25:41 -0700 Don't steak your life on it. Rand Olan G Mikkelsen wrote: > What's wrong, Rand? Feeling a little cowed? > Landolf > > Randy Chabries on 01/13/2001 09:33:19 > AM > > Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com > > To: cdc@lists.xmission.com > cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG) > Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? > > Don't you think we've milked this subject long enough? > Rand ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Randy Chabries Subject: Re: (cdc) Seige Engines Date: 15 Jan 1999 15:26:55 -0700 The Scots like to throw heavy things at people. Or, maybe using machines is not allowed. Talk to Raven. Rand Olan G Mikkelsen wrote: > Angus, > Are you interested in this? > Is anyone else interested? > Landolf > > ---------------------- Forwarded by Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG on > 01/14/99 12:17 PM --------------------------- > > "Robert D. Crisco" on 01/14/99 11:36:36 AM > > Please respond to artemisia@server.umt.edu > > To: Multiple recipients of list > cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG) > Subject: Seige Engines > > I am planning on possible recreating some catapults and other seige > weapons. > If there is a group in or near Utah interested, please contact me. I have > the plans and money,but we need a place to build it and launch it. I can > do > some of the wood work, but we need a good place to launch it. > > 'Let's kill the enemy before they even get halfway across the field' > > William, Siege Engineer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "CHARLENE Chabries" Subject: (cdc) Fwd: Fw: Help with a Laurel Project! Date: 15 Jan 1999 15:30:18 -0700 This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_8DDA298D.F091FD45 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I rec'd this request and I thought some of you might be interested. It is in regards to movies and their content. I thought it was a worthwhile cause. Rixa --=_8DDA298D.F091FD45 Content-Type: message/rfc822 CCHABRIE@ci.logan.ut.us, DBYINGTO@ci.logan.ut.us, DTURNER@ci.logan.ut.us, GJAMIESO@ci.logan.ut.us, JBECK@ci.logan.ut.us, JNEGUS@ci.logan.ut.us, KDEANGEL@ci.logan.ut.us, kpeterso@ci.logan.ut.us, KROBERTS@ci.logan.ut.us, LANDREWS@ci.logan.ut.us, LMOORE@ci.logan.ut.us, LTANNER@ci.logan.ut.us, mayor@ci.logan.ut.us, MLARSEN@ci.logan.ut.us, MVANORDE@ci.logan.ut.us, rburton@ci.logan.ut.us, SCOMPTON@ci.logan.ut.us, STIBBITT@ci.logan.ut.us, THARRIS@ci.logan.ut.us Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from cherubim.ricks.edu by abel.ricks.edu; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:03:42 -0700 Received: from triax.triax.com ([209.222.178.181]) by mail.triax.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-41958U5000L500S0) with SMTP id AAA13759; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:57:01 -0800 Message-ID: <00ec01be3ec3$3def7280$b5b2ded1@triax.triax.com> Reply-To: "Suzanne Holt" "Andrea" , "Awesome Amy" , "Beautiful Becky" , "Bobbie Jager" , "Emily McCarty" , "Geoff ala carte'" , "Jagers" <13js@onlinemac.com>, "Jeanna" , "Jenny S." , "Karen" , "Kathy Hall" , "Katie" , "katrina Lee" , "Krista" , "Que Sarah Sarah" , "shelby" , "Tiffany" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline -----Original Message----- > >-----Original Message----- >From: D. Benjamin Davis >To: benji_davis@hotmail.com ; kc7sik@yahoo.com >; smithg@vitrex.net ; >benatfatbobcat@hotmail.com ; kole_b@yahoo.com >; amanda_chic@hotmail.com ; >princess_pat@juno.com ; Ashley@rexburg.com >; johov@juno.com ; n7uny@juno.com >; CrazyDan0@aol.com ; ed167@juno.com >; blackg@ricks.edu ; chuck_k7jxy@juno.co= m >; andav1@juno.com ; >gregh@cyberhighway.net ; erickson@nstep.net >; polaris701@hotmail.com ; >jkc@ida.net ; Higgle@hotmail.com ; >ldccop1@aol.com ; charlygirl@juno.com >; euny-korn@juno.com ; >rhdavis2@juno.com ; kb7itu@juno.com ; >djbarnesfamily@juno.com ; jamiebig@tetonvalley.ne= t >; ktc@ida.net ; >garrettdabell_15@hotmail.com ; giff@srv.net >; rvhansen@ida.net ; >HayesK@mail.d321.k12.id.us ; >nonebut_me@yahoo.com ; holtj@ricks.edu >; mac1458@yahoo.com ; parsonl@ricks.ed= u >; pearsone@ricks.edu ; >pinnocks@mail.d321.k12.id.us ; >shelly1001@hotmail.com ; romrellg@juno.com >; romrellg@ricks.edu ; >romrells@hotmail.com ; sorensom@bee.d93.k12.id.us >; kc7ihz@juno.com ; >webmaster@surfidaho.com ; dsthomas@srv.net >; warnickl@ricks.edu ; >dead_death_knight@yahoo.com ; >dellogirl@hotmail.com >Date: Sunday, January 10, 1999 3:01 PM >Subject: Help with a Laurel Project! > > >> >>Dear Friends, >>I have received 1000's of e-mails and have never sent one out to >>everyone. This is the exception. I love movies. I don't see a lot >>anymore due to content issues. Please forgive me for sending this to >>you if you are not interested in supporting this cause. >> >>All of you are Christian. Some of you are LDS and some are not. For >>those who are not, the Mormon church has a magazine called "Church >>News" and it recently ran an article about an LDS young woman who was >>circulating a petition to encourage movie producers to make more >>G-rated movies, including edited, G-rated versions of movies with >>other ratings. >> >>If you care to, you can "sign" the petition on-line. Here's the URL: >>http://home.sprintmail.com/~dbowman001/default.html >> >>Her cover letter is reproduced below. There's also a printable >>version of the petition on the site, in case you'd like to circulate >>it on paper. >> >>July l, 1998 >> >>You and your family are sitting in the theater anticipating watching >>the movie you've heard so much about. Your children look up at you as >>they hear words that you have taught them not to say, the ten-minute >>sex scene seems to never end as your whole family sits there squirming >>in their seats. As a parent, what do you do? >> >>We all know the devastating effects pornography can have on us. The >>Lord's name taken in vain is common place wherever we go. We're >>becoming desensitized to everything, including violence and death. Do >>we accept these things as if nothing can be done? >> >>One voice may not be heard, but if we all feel strongly about this >>issue, we can all do a little and make a big difference. The more >>names we get, the more impressive it'll be. MY GOAL IS A MILLION >>NAMES!! With you're help, we can do it!! >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>My name is Elise Jenkins and I am doing a Laurel project for my >>church. The purpose of it is to see how many names I can get from all >>over the world on these petitions. I am asking everyone that is >>willing to help, to copy this petition and cover letter, and give or >>mail it to ten people who you think would be interested in helping by >>mailing it to ten others and so forth. When I get all of the names, >>I'll write to producers so that they can see the interest that there >>is in good, wholesome family entertainment. I will ask them to edit >>the movies and make a "G" rated version when possible. I am excited >>about this project and believe that all of us together can make a >>difference!! >> >>Here's what you can do to help: >> >>1. Electronically sign the petition now! >> >>2. Make at least 10 copies of this cover letter and petition. >> >>3. Keep the original for yourself. You may want to make an extra copy >>for yourself in case you get more than 50 names!! >> >>4. Think of your friends and family. Who would be most likely to carry >>this project out? >> >>5. When you finish with this, please send it back to me at this >>address: >> >>Elise Jenkins >>P.O. Box #102 >>Valley Springs, AR. 72682 >> >>6. Email a link to this page to everybody you think might be >>interested. >> >>The deadline for this to be in is June 30, 1999. There will be some of >> you who will receive this close to the deadline. If there are a lot >>of petitions coming in and if you need more time, contact me and I >>will extend it. >> >>I appreciate all of your time and energy that you have and will put >>into this!! Thank you so much! If you have any questions you can >>e-mail me; or write me at the address above. Again, thank you!! >> >>Love, >> >>Elise Jenkins >> >>P.S. Financial reward is what makes producers decisions. Please >>support family shows. >> >>________________________________________________________________ >>Get secure free e-mail that you don't need Web access to use >>from Juno, the world's second largest online service. >>Download your free software at http://www.juno.com/getit.b.html. >> > --=_8DDA298D.F091FD45-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: macnbeach@juno.com (Carrie A. Beach) Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? Date: 15 Jan 1999 16:58:11 -0700 Please, guys please. I'm becoming lactose intolerant. Ahhhhhhh... Ciarrai On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:56:59 -0700 "Olan G Mikkelsen" writes: >What's wrong, Rand? Feeling a little cowed? >Landolf > > > > >Don't you think we've milked this subject long enough? >Rand ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Merrill C. Pugmire" Subject: Re: (cdc) Seige Engines Date: 15 Jan 1999 18:30:11 -0700 >The Scots like to throw heavy things at people. Or, maybe using machines is >not allowed. Talk to Raven. >Rand > Most Scottish games contest really are based on poor-man's siege engineering. A great number of scottish traditions grow out of the repression of the poor (economic status) scots by the far more wealthy english. From what I have seen there are more English personas in the SCA than anything else. Another reason I would like to build siege engines and use them to throw things. Maybe even Englishmen? Angus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Randy Chabries Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs? Date: 17 Jan 1999 21:24:03 -0700 So, if you feed your cow only fruits, maybe you could get fructose. (and a lot of cow diarrhea) Does that make you feel better? If not, maybe you could stomach eight more silly puns. Rand Carrie A. Beach wrote: > Please, guys please. I'm becoming lactose intolerant. Ahhhhhhh... > Ciarrai > > On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:56:59 -0700 "Olan G Mikkelsen" > writes: > >What's wrong, Rand? Feeling a little cowed? > >Landolf > > > > > > > > > > >Don't you think we've milked this subject long enough? > >Rand > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Randy Chabries Subject: Re: (cdc) Seige Engines Date: 17 Jan 1999 21:26:42 -0700 GERMANS RULE!!! Throw all the English you like. But you still did not answer the essential question: is a Scottich seige engine an oxy-moron? or a regular moron? Rand Merrill C. Pugmire wrote: > >The Scots like to throw heavy things at people. Or, maybe using machines is > >not allowed. Talk to Raven. > >Rand > > > > Most Scottish games contest really are based on poor-man's siege > engineering. A great number of scottish traditions grow out of the > repression of the poor (economic status) scots by the far more wealthy > english. > > >From what I have seen there are more English personas in the SCA than > anything else. Another reason I would like to build siege engines and use > them to throw things. Maybe even Englishmen? > > Angus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rebecca Mikkelsen" Subject: (cdc) Thought for the day Date: 19 Jan 1999 14:20:07 -0700 One useless man is a disgrace. Two useless men become a law firm. And three or more become a Congress. Attributed to John Adams ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kendle Hanna Subject: (cdc) Fwd: [STEPS] Re: Friends vs FRIENDS (OOP) Date: 20 Jan 1999 16:50:37 -0800 (PST) --0-42999170-916879837=:216 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Got this off an SCA list (Kingdom of Antir). Hope you like it! note: forwarded msg attached. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --0-42999170-916879837=:216 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Apparently-To: krhanna@yahoo.com via mdd102.yahoomail.com Received: from ankh-morpok.sanctuary.bc.ca (207.102.244.137) by mta111.yahoomail.com with SMTP; 19 Jan 1999 19:36:15 -0800 Received: (qmail 10939 invoked by uid 30); 19 Jan 1999 19:34:07 -0800 Delivered-To: steps@antir.sca.org Received: (qmail 10933 invoked from network); 19 Jan 1999 19:34:05 -0800 Received: from unknown (HELO imo17.mx.aol.com) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 19 Jan 1999 19:34:05 -0800 Received: from Schneflame@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id 7PAZa03212 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 22:33:15 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <66a1b8fd.36a54e7b@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 236 Sender: steps-owner@antir.sca.org Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2092 In a message dated 19-Jan-99 09:03:01 Pacific Standard Time, MAMAJULIAN writes: SIMPLE FRIENDS VS REAL FRIENDS ANYONE CAN STAND BY YOU WHEN YOU ARE RIGHT, BUT A FRIEND WILL STAND BY YOU EVEN WHEN YOU ARE WRONG.... A SIMPLE FRIEND IDENTIFIES HIMSELF WHEN HE CALLS. A REAL FRIEND DOESN'T HAVE TO. A SIMPLE FRIEND OPENS A CONVERSATION WITH A NEWS BULLETIN ON HIS LIFE. A REAL FRIEND SAYS, "WHATS NEW WITH YOU?" A SIMPLE FRIEND THINKS THE PROBLEMS YOU WHINE ABOUT ARE RECENT. A REAL FRIEND SAYS, "YOU'VE BEEN WHINING ABOUT THE SAME THING FOR 14 YEARS. GET OFF YOUR DUFF AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT." A SIMPLE FRIEND HAS NEVER SEEN YOU CRY. A REAL FRIEND HAS SHOULDERS SOGGY FROM YOUR TEARS. A SIMPLE FRIEND DOESNT KNOW YOUR PARENTS FIRST NAMES. A REAL FRIEND HAS THEIR PHONE NUMBERS IN HIS ADDRESS BOOK. A SIMPLE FRIEND BRINGS A BOTTLE OF WINE TO YOUR PARTY. A REAL FRIEND COMES EARLY TO HELP YOU COOK AND STAYS LATE TO HELP YOU CLEAN. A SIMPLE FRIEND HATES IT WHEN YOU CALL AFTER HE HAS GONE TO BED. A REAL FRIEND ASKS YOU WHY YOU TOOK SO LONG TO CALL. A SIMPLE FREIND SEEKS TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT YOUR PROBLEMS. A REAL FRIEND SEEKS TO HELP YOU WITH YOUR PROBLEMS. A SIMPLE FRIEND SEEKS WONDERS ABOUT YOUR ROMANTIC HISTORY. A REAL FRIEND COULD BLACKMAIL YOU WITH IT. A SIMPLE FRIEND, WHEN VISITING ACTS LIKE A GUEST. A REAL FRIEND OPENS YOUR REFRIGERATOR AND HELPS HIMSELF. A SIMPLE FRIEND THINKS THE FRIENDSHIP IS OVER WHEN YOU HAVE AN ARGUMENT. A REAL FRIEND KNOWS THAT IT'S NOT A FRIENDSHIP UNTIL AFTER YOU'VE HAD A FIGHT. A SIMPLE FRIEND EXPECTS YOU TO ALWAYS BE THERE FOR THEM. A REAL FRIEND EXPECTS TO ALWAYS BE THERE FOR YOU! --------------------------<< "steps@antir.sca.org" >>---------------------- The Cathedral Steps - Kingdom of An Tir email list To subscribe, email "majordomo@antir.sca.org" with "subscribe steps". To unsubscribe, email "majordomo@antir.sca.org" with "unsubscribe steps". Digest version of the list available - subscribe to "steps-digest". For more help, email "majordomo@antir.sca.org" with "help". --0-42999170-916879837=:216-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rebecca Mikkelsen" Subject: (cdc) Re: Real friends Date: 21 Jan 1999 09:02:45 -0700 This message has some fine sentiments, but I am afraid I can't agree with most of them. I don't want anyone to read this "simple friends vs real friends" and think they aren't a "real" friend because they don't fit the "real" friend definition. And remember, your spouse is your real friend, too. Rebecca > SIMPLE FRIENDS VS REAL FRIENDS > > ANYONE CAN STAND BY YOU WHEN YOU ARE RIGHT, > BUT A FRIEND WILL STAND BY YOU EVEN WHEN YOU ARE WRONG.... > A real friend will not stand by while you continue to do wrong. A real friend will help you see what you are doing wrong and stand by you as you try to change. > A SIMPLE FRIEND IDENTIFIES HIMSELF WHEN HE CALLS. > A REAL FRIEND DOESN'T HAVE TO. > This isn't true. My own sisters have to tell me who they are because "hello" is simply not enough to be able to identify a voice. A real friend *will* identify him/herself because they don't want you to be deceived or have to waste the first moments of conversation trying to figure out who you are talking to. (sometimes I have to ask if I am talking to Olan or Kris because their voices are so much the same) > A SIMPLE FRIEND OPENS A CONVERSATION WITH A NEWS BULLETIN ON HIS LIFE. > A REAL FRIEND SAYS, "WHATS NEW WITH YOU?" > "What's new with you?" is the same as "How are you?" "What's happening?" etc that deserve an "everything's fine" kind of answer, when the person really wants to break down and cry. A real friend will ask real questions about a friend's life. > A SIMPLE FRIEND THINKS THE PROBLEMS YOU WHINE ABOUT ARE RECENT. > A REAL FRIEND SAYS, "YOU'VE BEEN WHINING ABOUT THE SAME THING FOR 14 YEARS. > GET OFF YOUR DUFF AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT." > A real friend will listen to the same complaints about the same problems again and again and give the same advice again and again until the person recognizes what they need to do to change. A real friend will have a compassionate ear, and even if they feel like saying "quit whining . . ." they won't, because real friends don't run rough-shod over their friends feelings. > A SIMPLE FRIEND HAS NEVER SEEN YOU CRY. > A REAL FRIEND HAS SHOULDERS SOGGY FROM YOUR TEARS. > > A SIMPLE FRIEND DOESNT KNOW YOUR PARENTS FIRST NAMES. > A REAL FRIEND HAS THEIR PHONE NUMBERS IN HIS ADDRESS BOOK. > I must not be a real friend or have any real friends because I don't think *anybody* knows the names of my parents. Few people even know where they live. Knowing someone's parents has nothing to do with how well you know the person. > A SIMPLE FRIEND BRINGS A BOTTLE OF WINE TO YOUR PARTY. > A REAL FRIEND COMES EARLY TO HELP YOU COOK AND STAYS LATE TO HELP YOU CLEAN. > > A SIMPLE FRIEND HATES IT WHEN YOU CALL AFTER HE HAS GONE TO BED. > A REAL FRIEND ASKS YOU WHY YOU TOOK SO LONG TO CALL. > A real friend will have the courtesy not to call you after you have gone to bed, unless it is an emergency. A real friend knows your schedule and knows that you get up at 4 am so a call after 9 pm would be rude. > A SIMPLE FREIND SEEKS TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT YOUR PROBLEMS. > A REAL FRIEND SEEKS TO HELP YOU WITH YOUR PROBLEMS. > > A SIMPLE FRIEND SEEKS WONDERS ABOUT YOUR ROMANTIC HISTORY. > A REAL FRIEND COULD BLACKMAIL YOU WITH IT. > > A SIMPLE FRIEND, WHEN VISITING ACTS LIKE A GUEST. > A REAL FRIEND OPENS YOUR REFRIGERATOR AND HELPS HIMSELF. > A real friend may feel comfortable enough in your home to go to the fridge without asking, but a real friend is also considerate enough of your feelings to ask (even spouses should ask "are you saving this bit of food for something?") > A SIMPLE FRIEND THINKS THE FRIENDSHIP IS OVER WHEN YOU HAVE AN > ARGUMENT. > A REAL FRIEND KNOWS THAT IT'S NOT A FRIENDSHIP UNTIL AFTER YOU'VE HAD A > FIGHT. > I certainly hope this isn't true. I would think that real friends wouldn't need to fight at all. > A SIMPLE FRIEND EXPECTS YOU TO ALWAYS BE THERE FOR THEM. > A REAL FRIEND EXPECTS TO ALWAYS BE THERE FOR YOU! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rebecca Mikkelsen" Subject: (cdc) (Fwd) Winter Madness Date: 21 Jan 1999 14:50:11 -0700 ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Reply-to: artemisia@server.umt.edu Greetings and salutations good gentles! Below is an event announcement for Winter Madness. Please note the date change (to Apr 2-4) and the requirement for reservations... In service to Artemisia and the Dream, Tyndall ========================================================================= Winter Madness IX Apr 2-4, Liberty, UT Shire of Gryphons Lair Okay, so maybe it should be called Spring Fever, but yes, there will still be snow and we can still play in it! You are cordially invited to join the Shire of Gryphons Lair for a weekend at their hunting lodge in the gorgeous Wasatch mountains. Cast off your worries for a weekend away from it all! If you were there last year, you know how much fun this is; and if you missed it - here's your chance to find out how much fun winter can be. We'll throw off the bonds of sanity to revel in the harshest of seasons, including heavy and fencing tournaments for shire defender, shield sledding, and a variety of other outdoor activities. For the less adventurous, there will be a variety of games and other activities indoors by the fire, including a weekend long bardic, as well as the usual frolicking and merriment. We will be eating well, as Lady Margaret Anne of Somerset returns to work her magic in the kitchen; with a planned menu of pancakes and sausage for breakfast, venison stew with bread and cheese for lunch, and the feast is 4 courses: soup and bread, roast beef and vegetables, chicken and rice, and dessert. The site is scenic Camp Utaba near Liberty, Utah. We have access to the large main lodge as well as 10 bunk cabins, plenty of room for everyone. Address is 7005 North Fork Rd, Liberty, UT 84310; phone for emergencies is (801) 745-8236. The site is discretely damp, no smoking indoors, and no pets. Merchants are welcome. Indoor plumbing and showers are on site, and the main lodge and bunk cabins are heated. You must bring your own bedding (the cots just have mattresses) and feast gear. Site opens at 6pm on Friday and closes at noon on Sunday. Price is $46.00 per person for the weekend, which includes use of site, 2 nights lodging, beverages throughout the day, and breakfast, lunch, and feast Saturday and breakfast Sunday. If you'd like to attend for just Saturday, the price is $18.00 on-board (beverages, lunch, and feast) or $10.00 off-board. Children 6-11 are half price and 0-5 are free. You must submit PAID reservations for this event if you want lodging and/or food! Reservations must be received by the autocrat no later than 29 Mar, send checks payable to SCA Inc - Shire of Gryphons Lair. Please submit any cabin sharing preferences and dietary restrictions with your reservations. Directions to the site: Take the 12th Street exit off I-15 (exit 347) in Ogden and head east through Ogden and up the Ogden River Canyon. At the top of the canyon, take a left onto Hwy 158 and go over the Pineview Dam. About 3.8 miles past the dam the road splits, take the left fork (just follow the signs for Liberty). About 0.5 miles past the fork there is a Maverick, take a left turn there, again following the signs for Liberty. About 2.9 miles later the road comes to a T intersection, go left. Take the next right (about 0.2 miles), 3300 East, following the sign to North Fork. Go about 1.4 miles and take a left turn onto 3100 E (just past the bridge), and follow that road about 2.8 miles to the site. For more information or reservations, contact the autocrat: Baron Colin Tyndall de ffrayser, (801) 825- 2021, john.fraser@hill.af.mil; 2786 W 5545 S #9, Roy, UT 84067. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Merrill C. Pugmire" Subject: Re: (cdc) (Fwd) Winter Madness Date: 21 Jan 1999 20:41:14 -0700 I Knew they could find something within thier own boundries! =C5ngus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Randy Chabries Subject: Re: (cdc) (Fwd) Winter Madness Date: 22 Jan 1999 12:33:35 -0700 Amazing what can be done with incentive, ain't it? Rand Merrill C. Pugmire wrote: > I Knew they could find something within thier own boundries! > > Ångus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Merrill C. Pugmire" Subject: (cdc) dearly departed members Date: 26 Jan 1999 00:09:14 -0700 Greetings unto all those cdc'ers out there who no longer live within our boundries. We have been discussing including you dearly departed ones (at least phone #s, if not addresses) in our directory this year. I, Angus, am assembling all that information (I have to keep a bunch of stuff for heraldry records anyway, and since I am doing it on a database, I might as well do addresses and phone #s too). If you would like us still in the borders of the blessed land to know how to get in touch with you, send me your info. Thanks Angus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tiffany Dillemuth" Subject: Re: (cdc) dearly departed members Date: 26 Jan 1999 10:41:43 PST Angus, Are you the contact person for the kingdom directory stuff?? I've become the default person because I know the kingdom gal who's putting it together... Let me know and I'll e-mail /all/ of it to you! Camilla ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Merrill C. Pugmire" Subject: Re: (cdc) dearly departed members Date: 26 Jan 1999 12:34:12 -0700 >Angus, > >Are you the contact person for the kingdom directory stuff?? I've >become the default person because I know the kingdom gal who's putting >it together... Let me know and I'll e-mail /all/ of it to you! > >Camilla > > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com I haven't been, but I would be glad to do so. I have to keep a pretty large amount of information on everybody in the shire anyway, so I decided to make a database. I might as well keep the directory info at the same time. Go ahead and give it to me, especially so that I can be sure to get it set up before you leave. Thanks Angus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Diane Perry (Melangell)" Subject: Re: (cdc) dearly departed members Date: 26 Jan 1999 17:55:37 +0000 > Greetings unto all those cdc'ers out there who no longer live within our > boundries. We have been discussing including you dearly departed ones (at > least phone #s, if not addresses) in our directory this year. I, Angus, am > assembling all that information (I have to keep a bunch of stuff for > heraldry records anyway, and since I am doing it on a database, I might as > well do addresses and phone #s too). If you would like us still in the > borders of the blessed land to know how to get in touch with you, send me > your info. > > Thanks > > Angus I'll go ahead and post this here for the benefit of anyone that wants the info: Rad and Diane Perry HL Baldwin Giffard and L. Melangell ferch Rhys ap Owain 1845 Landess Ave Milpitas, CA 95035 (408)263-8394 melangell@earthlink.net Thanks for thinking of us. Melangell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Olan G Mikkelsen" Subject: (cdc) BOD ruling on period fire-arms Date: 28 Jan 1999 07:23:37 -0700 For anyone who has seen my reproduction wheellock pistols: Tell me what you think of ruling no. 1. Landolf ---------------------- Forwarded by Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG on 01/28/99 07:23 AM --------------------------- Arthur Wagner on 01/26/99 12:25:28 PM Please respond to gillian@tss.net cc: Greetings my brother, I thought you might be interested in this. It was posted by our Earl Marshal to the Chivalry list today.... Hope all is well, Gillian The Davenports wrote: > Greetings, > > Here are the latest rulings from on-high. > > ....just so you know, it's not all my idea.....;-) > > Barak > > ><<<<<< > > > > > >With respect to the Policy ruling on gunpowder weapons, the > > board made three > > >decisions, based upon the three sentences of your ruling: > > >1. SCA missile weapons that are intended to reproduce > > handheld > > >period gunpowder weapons (hand cannon, pistols, muskets, > > etc.) may not be used > > >for armored combat melee activities. PASSED 6-0. Note the > > small change from > > >"Heavy Weapon" to "Armored Combat"--more in keeping with > > Corpora and G&PD > > > > >2. Siege weapons that reproduce period cannon and other > > carriage mounted > > >weapons may only be used against fortifications and other > > siege weapons. > > >PASSED 4-3. A real discussion concerned "carriage mounted" > > and whether > > >wheeled ballistas, etc. wouold be covered--suggestion by me > > to you: "and > > >other carriage mounted gunpowder weapons ..." > > > > > ><<< > gunpowder > > >replicating seige weapons ( cannon, mortar, etc. ). It > > does, I repeat, > > >does not apply to other siege weapons ( balistia, catapult, > > onager, > > >trebuchet , etc ). This was a misunderstanding between me > > and the Board > > >and I will clarify it in my next report to the Board. > > > > > >3. Reproduction handheld missile weapons may be used in > > period fencing > > >activities after passing existing rules and procedures for > > any new weapon. > > >FAILED 2-4. Comments were all over the place on this. I > > think that most were > > >concerned about allowing gunpowder replica weapons in one > > area and not > > >another. > > ><<<<<< > > > > > >Comar ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Randy Chabries Subject: Re: (cdc) BOD ruling on period fire-arms Date: 28 Jan 1999 10:02:21 -0700 It has been my experience that it is easy to condemn things we do not know about. How, on this little green earth is the gun that you have devised more dangerous than the arrows? Or even a sword or any other weapon. Personally, I feel these guns are safer than anything else we fight with. Rand Olan G Mikkelsen wrote: > For anyone who has seen my reproduction wheellock pistols: Tell me what > you think of ruling no. 1. > Landolf > > ---------------------- Forwarded by Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG on > 01/28/99 07:23 AM --------------------------- > > Arthur Wagner on 01/26/99 12:25:28 PM > > Please respond to gillian@tss.net > > To: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG > cc: > Subject: BOD ruling on period fire-arms > > Greetings my brother, I thought you might be interested in this. It was > posted by our Earl Marshal to the Chivalry list today.... > > Hope all is well, > > Gillian > > The Davenports wrote: > > > Greetings, > > > > Here are the latest rulings from on-high. > > > > ....just so you know, it's not all my idea.....;-) > > > > Barak > > > > ><<<<<< > > > > > > > >With respect to the Policy ruling on gunpowder weapons, the > > > board made three > > > >decisions, based upon the three sentences of your ruling: > > > >1. SCA missile weapons that are intended to reproduce > > > handheld > > > >period gunpowder weapons (hand cannon, pistols, muskets, > > > etc.) may not be used > > > >for armored combat melee activities. PASSED 6-0. Note the > > > small change from > > > >"Heavy Weapon" to "Armored Combat"--more in keeping with > > > Corpora and G&PD > > > > > > >2. Siege weapons that reproduce period cannon and other > > > carriage mounted > > > >weapons may only be used against fortifications and other > > > siege weapons. > > > >PASSED 4-3. A real discussion concerned "carriage mounted" > > > and whether > > > >wheeled ballistas, etc. wouold be covered--suggestion by me > > > to you: "and > > > >other carriage mounted gunpowder weapons ..." > > > > > > > ><<< > > gunpowder > > > >replicating seige weapons ( cannon, mortar, etc. ). It > > > does, I repeat, > > > >does not apply to other siege weapons ( balistia, catapult, > > > onager, > > > >trebuchet , etc ). This was a misunderstanding between me > > > and the Board > > > >and I will clarify it in my next report to the Board. > > > > > > > >3. Reproduction handheld missile weapons may be used in > > > period fencing > > > >activities after passing existing rules and procedures for > > > any new weapon. > > > >FAILED 2-4. Comments were all over the place on this. I > > > think that most were > > > >concerned about allowing gunpowder replica weapons in one > > > area and not > > > >another. > > > ><<<<<< > > > > > > > >Comar ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Lowe Subject: Re: (cdc) BOD ruling on period fire-arms Date: 28 Jan 1999 13:19:14 -0700 I'm Appaled! (a pelled, a paul ed, app all ed) Jurgi Olan G Mikkelsen wrote: > For anyone who has seen my reproduction wheellock pistols: Tell me what > you think of ruling no. 1. > Landolf > > ---------------------- Forwarded by Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG on > 01/28/99 07:23 AM --------------------------- > > Arthur Wagner on 01/26/99 12:25:28 PM > > Please respond to gillian@tss.net > > To: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG > cc: > Subject: BOD ruling on period fire-arms > > Greetings my brother, I thought you might be interested in this. It was > posted by our Earl Marshal to the Chivalry list today.... > > Hope all is well, > > Gillian > > The Davenports wrote: > > > Greetings, > > > > Here are the latest rulings from on-high. > > > > ....just so you know, it's not all my idea.....;-) > > > > Barak > > > > ><<<<<< > > > > > > > >With respect to the Policy ruling on gunpowder weapons, the > > > board made three > > > >decisions, based upon the three sentences of your ruling: > > > >1. SCA missile weapons that are intended to reproduce > > > handheld > > > >period gunpowder weapons (hand cannon, pistols, muskets, > > > etc.) may not be used > > > >for armored combat melee activities. PASSED 6-0. Note the > > > small change from > > > >"Heavy Weapon" to "Armored Combat"--more in keeping with > > > Corpora and G&PD > > > > > > >2. Siege weapons that reproduce period cannon and other > > > carriage mounted > > > >weapons may only be used against fortifications and other > > > siege weapons. > > > >PASSED 4-3. A real discussion concerned "carriage mounted" > > > and whether > > > >wheeled ballistas, etc. wouold be covered--suggestion by me > > > to you: "and > > > >other carriage mounted gunpowder weapons ..." > > > > > > > ><<< > > gunpowder > > > >replicating seige weapons ( cannon, mortar, etc. ). It > > > does, I repeat, > > > >does not apply to other siege weapons ( balistia, catapult, > > > onager, > > > >trebuchet , etc ). This was a misunderstanding between me > > > and the Board > > > >and I will clarify it in my next report to the Board. > > > > > > > >3. Reproduction handheld missile weapons may be used in > > > period fencing > > > >activities after passing existing rules and procedures for > > > any new weapon. > > > >FAILED 2-4. Comments were all over the place on this. I > > > think that most were > > > >concerned about allowing gunpowder replica weapons in one > > > area and not > > > >another. > > > ><<<<<< > > > > > > > >Comar ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carrie A. Beach" Subject: (cdc) Re: Shire directory Date: 29 Jan 1999 12:45:04 -0700 Carrie A. Beach (Ciarrai NicCeannadaich bean MacGriogair) Jim L. Magruder (Seamas Connough MacGriogair) 2868 N. 150 W. Ogden Ut. 84414 (801) 737-9498 macnbeach@juno.com On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:27:31 -0700 "Merrill C. Pugmire" writes: >Greetings > >Could you good gentles please get me your address and other vitiae for >the >shire directory? > >thanks > >Angus > > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Merrill C. Pugmire" Subject: Re: (cdc) Re: Shire directory Date: 29 Jan 1999 23:28:02 -0700 >Carrie A. Beach (Ciarrai NicCeannadaich bean MacGriogair) >Jim L. Magruder (Seamas Connough MacGriogair) > >2868 N. 150 W. >Ogden Ut. 84414 > >(801) 737-9498 >macnbeach@juno.com > Recieved and entered. Thanks Angus