From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) New eXotica Releases Overview Update Date: 01 Jan 2000 13:14:33 +0100 A new update to the eXotica Releases Overview is available, ALONG WITH AN OVERVIEW OF 1999 RELEASES. These are the most important recent additions, that where not yet announced here. (If you would like to receive the unabridged updates on a regular base by e-mail, just let me know you want to get on my "XRO updater") - December 28: new (1999) releases, announcements & corrections - * Aavikko: "Oriental Baby" Mini CD, Humppa?, Germany?, 1999 * Willie Bobo: "A New Dimension" CD, Verve, Japan 1999 * Walter (Wendy) Carlos: "Switched-On Bach Set" 4 CD Box Set, East Side Digital ESD, USA, 1999 * Elakelaiset: "Humppan Kuninkaan Hovissa" CD, Humppa 014, Germany, 1999 * Peggy Lee: "Latin Ala Lee!" CD, DCC, USA, January 2000 * Jackie & Roy: "Lovesick" CD, Verve POCJ-2763/ V6-8688, Japan, 1999 * Soundtrack: "Arabesque/ Breakfast At Tiffany's" [by Henry Mancini] CD, ?, Japan?, 1999 * Hugo Montenegro: "Good Vibrations" CD, RCA, Spain, 1999 * Hugo Montenegro: "Mammy Blue" CD, RCA, Spain, 1999 * Santo & Johnny: "Come On In/ Off Shore" (Plus 8 Bonus Tracks) CD, Canadian American SCACD 1006, Germany?, 1999 * Santo & Johnny: "Wish You Love/ Mucho" (Plus 8 Bonus Tracks) CD, Canadian American SCACD 1008, Germany?, 1999 * Nancy Sinatra: "You Go-Go Girl" CD, Varese Vintage, USA, 1999 * The Spotnicks: "EP Collection" Double CD, ? RR 2103, UK?, 1999 * Various Artists: "A Trip To Brazil: Bossa & Beyond" Double CD, EmArcy 545 475, Germany, 1999 * Various Artists: "A Trip To Brazil Vol. 2: Bossa & Beyond" Double CD, Motor Or EmArcy 545 360, Germany, 1999 * Soundtrack: "Dr. Seuss' How The Grinch Stole Christmas/ Horton Hears A Who!'" [by Various Artists] CD, Rhino Movie Music, USA, 1999 * Soundtrack: "E Allora Mambo!" [by Various Artists] CD, Irma/La Douce 495484, Italy, 1999 * Various Artists: "Funky Soundtracks 1" LP, (Bootleg), 1999 * Various Artists: "Funky Soundtracks 2" LP, (Bootleg), 1999 * Various Artists: "Funky Soundtracks 3" LP, (Bootleg), 1999 * Various Artists: "Irma Cocktail Lounge Vol 1" CD, Irma, Italy, 1999 * Various Artists: "Irma Cocktail Lounge Vol 2" * Various Artists: "Swingin' Creepers!" (A Tribute To The Ventures) CD, ? MS 0010, USA, 1999 * Various Artists: "Tribute: Serge Gainsbourg" CD, ?, Japan, 1999 * Vagabond Cinema Pops Arkestra: "Old Music Master" CD, ?, Japan, 1999 - December 28: more or less recent (1998) stuff - * Walter Wanderley: "Kee-Ka-Roo" CD, Verve POCJ-2561, Japan, 1998 - December 28: other interesting finds I stumbled on - * Aavikko: "Aavikko" Mini CD, BV58, Finland, 1996 * Ted Heath: "Fever" LP, Decca PFS 4082, UK, 1965 * Soundtrack: "The Pink Panther/ The Pink Panther Returns" [by Henry Mancini] Double LP, Simply Vinyl SVLP84, UK, 199? * Gary McFarland: "The In Sound" CD, Verve, Japan, 199? * Various Artists: "Kinky Beats" CD, Lacerba, ?, 199? >>> Additions & corrections are more than welcome! >>> The XRO is a discography, NOT a sale catalog! For the online version of the eXotica Releases Overview: Dada's Exotiquarium: NEW URL!!!!! http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/ Johan Dada Vis quiet@village.uunet.be # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) new URL & new name: Dada's Exotiquarium Date: 01 Jan 2000 13:14:33 +0100 I've changed the location AND name of my web site: it's now called "Dada's Exotiquarium", and located at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/ "Zounds in cyberSpace" is now part of "Dada's Exotiquarium" too. The "eXotica Releases Overview" has been updated, and also includes an overview of 1999 releases. Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) First song of the year 2000... Date: 01 Jan 2000 10:11:55 -0500 Considering that I was basically alone in my building, making sure that Y2K grippeth not our machines, it was rather fitting that the first song I heard was "Friday at the Hideout" by the Underdogs! Brian "Not too exotic, I know, but I am listening to Johan's site now" Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) First song of the year 2000... Date: 01 Jan 2000 13:37:14 EST In a message dated 1/1/00 10:19:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, hagar@mindspring.com writes: << it was rather fitting that the first song I heard was "Friday at the Hideout" by the Underdogs! >> Well, old Tiki Bob played a special song just after midnight to mark the start of the year 2000. And it is gunna start RIGHT ! ! ! My song was Martin Denny's "Stranger In Paradise" (of the Coconut Cream of Martin Denny CD comp). Interesting selection, huh? Not really, as I WILL BE a stranger in paradise in about two weeks as I am off to Hawaii. Tiki Bob's day job requires a little continuing education each year and so a conference on Maui is the perfect way to let my office pay for a little Exotic Excursion. And the best part? I have spoken with the Big Kahuna himself and he has graciously granted me an audience. Some people have Mecca and I have Denny. I really cannot believe this is going to happen. It sounds corny, but this is kind of a life long dream (well maybe not my whole life but to say "a dream of the past few years" would belittle it's importance). So my fellow Exotica List members, I am sorry if I sound to gushy, but the year 2000 is looking real good to old Tiki Bob about now. Mahalo! TB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek Subject: Re: (exotica) First song of the year 2000... Date: 01 Jan 2000 19:48:40 +0100 Brian Phillips wrote: > Considering that I was basically alone in my building, making sure that Y2K > grippeth not our machines, it was rather fitting that the first song I > heard was "Friday at the Hideout" by the Underdogs! > > Brian "Not too exotic, I know, but I am listening to Johan's site now" Phillips My choice wasn't too exotic either: Tonight's the night by Neil Young. Just because that was the last CD that I bought last year (last century... last millennium...). Marco -- Marco "Kallie" Kalnenek +------------------------------------------+ Record Collector's Heaven http://weirdomusic.freeservers.com/ +------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) First song of the year 2000... Date: 01 Jan 2000 14:11:33 -0500 Sun Ra - "Space Is The Place". I just hope the century can live up to it. Did anyone on here attend the Arkestra's New Year's Eve show in Philly last night? (no, I didn't, I'm just curious and jealous) m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ w/ a NEW feature: NEWSSTAND A Gallery Of Magazine Covers # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) First song of the year 2000... Date: 01 Jan 2000 14:24:23 EST my first record played in the 21st century was also my last purchase in the 20th century. Never seen this one before, Fess Parker in "Fancy Feathers". It is a musical fantasy which takes place on a farm. Great photo of Parker on the cover, leaning on a haystack with a hen and rooster (stuffed, dead) surrounding him. Parker narrates, head Mouseketeer Jimmy Dodd and "Miss Commercial of 1959", Gloria Wood sing. Paul Frees sings about roosters and weasels on three tracks, using a different personality for all three. Guess who wrote and arranged the music? Mel Henke. :) Great record on a label I never heard of, Cascade. Johan, add this to your list, bud? Also found another amazing thing yesterday on Decca, "Music For Mathematics". "Music" played by an IBM computer and a digital to sound transducer. I'll have to read the long, long liner notes to learn more, but there are several incredibly strange (without trying to be - the best kind of ISM) tracks with "Bicycle Built For Two" outta this world. I spotted a vinyl reissue of The Italian Job while at the store, but did not pick it up. happy new year # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour Date: 01 Jan 2000 18:50:21 -0600 This week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast is an encore of our popular Outer Space show! It's two hours of outer space exotica by Russ Garcia, Les Baxter, Frank Comstock and others, including bits from Jimmie Haskell's "Countdown in Stereo", sci-fi movie trailers, TV themes (Stingray, Space Patrol, The Twilight Zone, etc.) and much more. To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour on the Web, go to: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Or listen in realtime (and STEREO) on Saturday from 7:00 to 9:00pm Central time at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/realaudio/index.htm Requires a minimum 28.8 Internet connection and RealPlayer. Happy New Year!! Darrell Brogdon dbrogdon@ukans.edu The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) First song of the year 2000... Date: 02 Jan 2000 14:56:46 EST In a message dated 1/1/0 10:19:07 AM, hagar@mindspring.com wrote: >the first song I >heard was "Friday at the Hideout" by the Underdogs! I had mixeded a dance tape for the party I went to and as luck would have it, Cornelius Brothers and Sister Rose's "Its Too Late To Turn Back Now" came on about 2 minutes after the ball dropped. It was the first song played in its ENTIRETY around my way...Jimmy Botticelli # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) some tv pointers Date: 02 Jan 2000 20:25:50 -0500 Beginning Monday, Elvis movies every night at 1:00am (eastern) on VH1, with some extras on Saturday. "Copacabana" (1947), w/ Carmen Miranda & Groucho Marx (no Bros) AMC - Tuesday morning, 8:15am Followed by a couple more of the later Marx Bros movies (Harpo on... harp). "In The Heat Of The Night" (1967) TCM - Tuesday night, 8:00pm. Someone just got the soundtrack for Christmas, right? The original "Thomas Crown Affair" (1968) TCM - Tuesday night, 10:00pm "Ski Party" (1965) AMC - Late Tuesday, 3:45am Yes, Chuck, here it is. The one w/ James Brown. Lesley Gore too. Profiles: Charles Aznavour -- is the supposed subject, but it really covers French chanson through the 20th century. Bravo (US) - Wednesday morning, 11:00am "Little Fugitive" (1953) AMC - Thursday afternoon, 4:00pm Take a time trip to Coney Island. "Mrs. Brown, You’ve Got A Lovely Daughter" (1968) TCM - Friday afternoon, 4:00pm Herman's Hermits get involved in greyhound racing. A 3-hour block of "Josie & The Pussycats"! Cartoon Network - Saturday afternoon, 4:00pm "Speedway" (1968) Speedvision - Saturday night, 11:00pm, Sunday afternoon, Noon The Elvis movie co-starring Nancy Sinatra. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: (exotica) More whistling and canary songsters Date: 02 Jan 2000 21:59:41 EST hi all - I've just wrapped up my two volume collection of whistlers and birdies with musical accompaniment, so if interested please check out the track lists and some scans at http://www.metro.net/basichip/whistling/whistling.htm. One of the volumes is all 78's, including the complete set of the American Radio Warblers series. Sorry if the scans are sluggish to load, I'm new to this web page business. Please let me know if there are difficulties viewing the pages. I have a number of vinyl favorites that i'm planning to record to CD-R, so stay tuned. As always, cost is not much more than materials and shipping or i'm always open to trading, etc. happy new year! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) More whistling and canary songsters Date: 02 Jan 2000 23:50:50 -0500 BasicHip wrote: > >I've just wrapped up my two volume collection of whistlers and birdies with >musical accompaniment, so if interested please check out the track lists an= d >some scans at ... >http://www.metro.net/basichip/whistling/whistling.htm. Looking very nice, BH. I'm cuckoo for Professor Birdee, from the Hartz Mountain Parakeet Training Record... Ron G., must ask: Is said image from record cover of yore which you hung with pride in your rec room? It's far better than what I imagined. Love that stylin' morterboard. Does that mean Hartz Training Grads are bird brains? (sorry for an awful yoke). Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits]Irving Rapper,Dick Peabody,Harry Monty,Nat Adderly Date: 03 Jan 2000 10:17:22 -0500 12/29/99 LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Filmmaker Irving Rapper, best known for a directing Bette Davis in string of films including ``Now, Voyager,'' has died. He was 101. Rapper, who had been a resident of the Motion Picture and Television Fund home in suburban Woodland Hills since 1995, died Dec. 20, according to his niece, Rita Rothenberg. ``Now, Voyager,'' 1942, featured a famous romantic scene in which Paul Henreid lit two cigarettes simultaneously and handed one to Davis, who played a troubled spinster who comes out of her shell. The Film Encyclopedia, a reference book, calls the film ``a superior soap opera, grandly spun and beautifully played.'' Rapper formed a strong professional relationship with Davis and directed her in three other films: ``The Corn Is Green,'' ``Deception'' and ``Another Man's Poison.'' Rapper once said that Davis ``has an inner electricity. Only once in a lifetime do you meet an actress like her. She could take the most insignificant line and make it sound dynamic.'' After entering films as a dialogue coach for Warner Bros., Rapper made his film directing debut in 1941 with ``Shining Victory.'' That same year, he directed Fredric March in ``One Foot in Heaven,'' his first popular and critical success, which earned a nomination for an Academy Award as best picture. Among his other films in the 1940s were ``Anna Lucasta'' and a couple of biopics, ``Rhapsody in Blue,'' about George Gershwin, and ``The Adventures of Mark Twain.'' Rapper's final picture under his original Warner Bros. contract was the 1947 comedy ``The Voice of the Turtle'' starring Eleanor Parker and Ronald Reagan. He later said he thought Reagan didn't turn out to be good at comedy. After leaving the studio, many critics say Rapper's work faltered. His 1956 film ``The Brave One,'' about a Mexican boy and a bull, is regarded as his best later work. The movie earned then-blacklisted Dalton Trumbo an Oscar for best original story. Born in London, Rapper came to the United States as a child. After studying law, he became involved in theater and moved quickly from acting to stage managing to directing. His direction of the 1936 Broadway melodrama ``Crime'' got the attention of Hollywood and helped him get a job at Warner Bros. http://allmovie.com/cg/x.dll?UID=9:47:00|AM&p=avg&sql=B107586 CAMINO, Calif. (AP) -- Dick Peabody, the 6-foot-6 actor who portrayed the gentle giant farm boy, Littlejohn, on the 1960s TV series ``Combat,'' has died. He was 74. Peabody died of prostate cancer Monday in Camino, a community near Placerville where he wrote a column called ``Peabody's Place'' for the Placerville Mountain Democrat, fellow ``Combat'' star and close friend Rick Jason said. The series, which also starred the late Vic Morrow, illustrated the ravages of the European invasion during World War II. It ran on ABC from 1962 to 1967 and has remained popular in syndication and on video. During its run, the series attracted guest stars like Lee Marvin, Telly Savalas, Sal Mineo, Ted Knight, Eddie Albert and James Coburn. Peabody, whose more than 120 television show credits included ``Gunsmoke,'' also appeared in six motion pictures, including ``Support Your Local Sheriff'' starring James Garner. In 1971, Peabody joined KFI radio as a talk show host, interviewing Hollywood celebrities from a booth at Universal Studios. http://allmovie.com/cg/x.dll?UID=9:47:00|AM&p=avg&sql=B55629 -------------------- 12/31/99 *Harry Monty LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Harry Monty, one of the original Munchkins from the 1939 classic ``The Wizard of Oz,'' died Tuesday. He was 95. The diminutive actor and stuntman, whose real name was Hymie Lichenstein, portrayed a Munchkin, one of the myriad of ``Little People'' who helped Dorothy, played by Judy Garland, follow the yellow brick road. He also played an evil winged-monkey in the movie. He was born in Dallas to Polish immigrants and used his short stature to an advantage on the big screen. Monty started his career in vaudeville and appeared in motion pictures from the 1930s to the 1970s, including uncredited roles on ``Planet of the Apes'' with Charlton Heston and ``Hello, Dolly!'' with Barbra Streisand. He also appeared in 1954's ``River of No Return,'' among a number of other films. Monty had frequent roles on television, having appeared in such popular series as ``Bonanza,'' ``Lost in Space,'' and ``Bewitched.'' http://allmovie.com/cg/x.dll?UID=9:47:00|AM&p=avg&sql=B210206 --------- 1/2/00 *Nat Adderly LAKELAND, Fla. (AP) -- Nat Adderley, a member of the Jazz Hall of Fame who performed on nearly a hundred albums, died Sunday at his home of complications from diabetes. He was 68. Inducted into the Hall of Fame in Kansas City in 1997, the Florida-born cornetist first came to prominence with his older brother, saxophonist Julian ``Cannonball'' Adderley, in the 1950s. The composer of such jazz standards as ``Work Song'' and ``Jive Samba,'' Nat Adderley was known for recordings by his own group and with his late brother's Cannonball Adderley Quintet. ``Cannonball was the big one. ... I'm just a little bebop trumpet player,'' Nat Adderley said in 1986. ``Bebop is the pot of gold, and you can't feel good about yourself unless your playing.'' Adderley took up trumpet in 1946 and switched to cornet in 1950. He spent time in the U.S. Army between 1951-53 and played in bands while in the service. Since Cannonball's death in 1975, Nat had led his own quintets. His most notable sidemen were altoists Sonny Fortune and Vincent Herring. In 1997, he joined the faculty of Florida Southern College as artist in residence. He had also headlined and hosted the school's annual ``Child of the Sun Jazz Festival'' for more than 10 years. http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=9:57:37|AM&p=amg&sql=B5982 ----------- http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/deadobit99.html ------------ NYTimes - The Lives They Led: http://www.nytimes.com/library/magazine/home/ Dusty Springfield: http://www.nytimes.com/library/magazine/home/20000102mag-hoerburger10.html Joyce Vander Pyl: http://www.nytimes.com/library/magazine/home/20000102mag-roston11.html Lili St. Cyr: http://www.nytimes.com/library/magazine/home/20000102mag-sante13.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mofo2148" Subject: (exotica) Friendly Persuasion Show - Week of 01/03/00 Date: 03 Jan 2000 02:17:06 -0800 Week of 01/03/00 The Friendly Persuasion Show Cool and Strange Music Magazine's weekly radio show on Antenna Internet Radio. http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm Get your RealAudio G2 player ready and tune in anytime during this week to hear: Attillio "Art" Mineo - Mile-a-minute Monorail Yma Sumac - Zebra Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66 - Batucada (The Beat) The Tape-beatles - The man of to-morrow Ford Motor Company - Tractor Drivin' Man The Shaggs - My Pal Foot Foot The Lemon Grove Kids - We're the Lemon Grove Kids R. Stevie Moore - Explaination of a Mind / Goodbye Piano Eugene Chadborne - (Just Like) Starting Over Retrovirus and Opportunistic Infection - Kiss The Electric Friends - The Mighty Jungle The Kids of Widney High - Mirror, Mirror The Tape-beatles - The Urge of the Idea Negativland - Perfect Scrambled Eggs Vincent Bell - Eleanor Rigby Astrud Gilberto - Let Go (Canto De Ossanho) Jean Jacques Perrey & Gershon Kingsley - Windchester Cathedral Unknown - The Hippo Song Duck and Cover! Larry Blake - The Complacent American Louis Armstrong - We Have All The Time In The World Attillio "Art" Mineo - Space Age World's Fair hoo hoo, Otis "still trying to cover my walls with bamboo" Fodder Mr. Otis F. Odder mofo2148@speakeasy.org http://nimenet.com/fodder Box 21104, Seattle, WA 98111 USA Access Friendly Persuasion past playlists & more: http://nimenet.com/fodder/fp/ Cool & Strange Music Magazine - www.coolandstrange.com Antenna Internet Radio - www.antennaradio.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mofo2148" Subject: (exotica) Friendly Persuasion Show - Week of 01/03/00 Date: 03 Jan 2000 02:20:29 -0800 Week of 01/03/00 The Friendly Persuasion Show Cool and Strange Music Magazine's weekly radio show on Antenna Internet Radio. http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm Get your RealAudio G2 player ready and tune in anytime during this week to hear: Attillio "Art" Mineo - Mile-a-minute Monorail Yma Sumac - Zebra Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66 - Batucada (The Beat) The Tape-beatles - The man of to-morrow Ford Motor Company - Tractor Drivin' Man The Shaggs - My Pal Foot Foot The Lemon Grove Kids - We're the Lemon Grove Kids R. Stevie Moore - Explaination of a Mind / Goodbye Piano Eugene Chadborne - (Just Like) Starting Over Retrovirus and Opportunistic Infection - Kiss The Electric Friends - The Mighty Jungle The Kids of Widney High - Mirror, Mirror The Tape-beatles - The Urge of the Idea Negativland - Perfect Scrambled Eggs Vincent Bell - Eleanor Rigby Astrud Gilberto - Let Go (Canto De Ossanho) Jean Jacques Perrey & Gershon Kingsley - Windchester Cathedral Unknown - The Hippo Song Duck and Cover! Larry Blake - The Complacent American Louis Armstrong - We Have All The Time In The World Attillio "Art" Mineo - Space Age World's Fair hoo hoo, Otis "still trying to cover my walls with bamboo" Fodder Mr. Otis F. Odder mofo2148@speakeasy.org http://nimenet.com/fodder Box 21104, Seattle, WA 98111 USA Access Friendly Persuasion past playlists & more: http://nimenet.com/fodder/fp/ Cool & Strange Music Magazine - www.coolandstrange.com Antenna Internet Radio - www.antennaradio.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Yost" Subject: (exotica) OT: online stylus/needle suppliers Date: 03 Jan 2000 11:32:12 -0800 Hi everyone, and happy new year. If anyone has good tips on online sources of phono cartridges and styli, please give me an e-mail off-list. Looking for good selection/prices and prefer U.S. Thanks! -Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: if someone could comb through everything that everyone has Date: 03 Jan 2000 19:06:39 +0100 i'm so glad you asked, Byron, 'cause that's exactly what i'm doing right now... well, not comb through EVERYTHING, but i do save comments and reviews about recent CD's and new vinyl now and then (so, not about old collectable vinyl - someone else should do that). i put them in my filemaker database, upon which the "eXotica Releases Overview" is based. in its next version, all those quotes are to be combined under each record. but it needs some programming work, AND i need to ask permission to each and everyone who wrote a comment, to use it. i'm also thinking of changing the name into something more appropriate, but i don't know what... something like "fragments of the collective memory of some members of the exotica mailing list about exotica and related CD's and new vinyl"... so, what do you all think? Johan ----- Byron wrote: >Seems to me that it would be nice if someone could comb through everything >that everyone has said about various records and combine the comments under >each record...a central place for reviews of our collective favorites (or >not so favorites). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lou Smith" Subject: (exotica) FYI: Legong-Dance Of The Virgins, in New York City Date: 03 Jan 2000 13:24:55 -0500 Monday January 24, 2000 Legong - new original score for silent film 7:00 PM World Financial Center, Winter Garden, New York Downtown in Battery Park City, on West Street between the World Trade Center and the Hudson River, and Vesey and Liberty Streets. A new film score by Richard Marriott and I Made Subandi performed live with members of the Club Foot Orchestra and Gamelan Sekar Jaya. The 1935 Henry de la Falaise film, Legong: Dance of the Virgins, was shot on location in 1933 with an all Balinese cast, the last silent film produced by Hollywood using the Technicolor process. It is a lush and tragic tale of an idealized tropical "paradise" and romantic awakenings. Accompanying the screening of this recently restored (by UCLA Film Archive) print is a live performance of an original score which combines Balinese gamelan with string quartet and winds performed by Gamelan Sekar Jaya, and the Club Foot Orchestra, a pioneer of the modern use of live music in silent film. The screening will be followed by a live performance of the traditional Legong Kraton dance by Gamelan Sekar Jaya's dancers and musicians. 212-945-0505 for information (or 212-517 ASIA) Tickets: Free Admission http://us.imdb.com/Title?0129196 http://www.culturevulture.net/Movies/Legong.htm http://www.hollywoodsattic.com/burlesque.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Re: if someone could comb through everything that Date: 03 Jan 2000 14:06:31 -0500 Johan: This sounds like a great idea, I've often thought it would be cool to = create a fanzine around the writings here on Exotica. I mean, there's = such a wealth of information zapping across my monitor that it seems like = a logical step to "hardcopy" and organize everything into a more accessible= type of "database." I volunteer to co-edit............ - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thinkmatic@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Recent Finds & digitized tradables Date: 03 Jan 2000 15:05:00 EST These are recent borrows not finds, but what the heck. Since they're both Les Baxter clone albums ( I assume they're clones from the dates they were released) I'm sure they've been discussed at length before my time on the list, but their new to me, so here goes. "Jun'gala" by Marty Wilson & his Orchestra - As I said above it's a total Baxter copy, but hey if you're going to copy somebody, he was the man to copy. The album is like listening to a continuation of Baxter's "African Jazz", what can I say, it's great. Plus the version of "Manteca" has a hint of "Tequila" thrown in and it's a killer. I give it 10.9003 on my scale of 0.86 - 13.004 "Pagan Festival" by Dominic Frontiere uses an Inca theme and has the orchestral/choral chanting quality of Baxter's "Tamboo!" & "Scared Idol". This album also sounds enough like Baxter for me to like it, quite a bit. I give it 11.21 on my scale of 0.86 - 13.004 These two I have digitized, so if anyone would like to trade me something for a copy drop me a line. Y2k Bugged, -Roy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) FYI: Legong-Dance Of The Virgins, in New York City Date: 03 Jan 2000 15:06:14 EST In a message dated 01/03/00 1:18:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, lsmith@surveys.com writes: << Dance of the Virgins, was shot on location in 1933 with an all Balinese cast >> that was when there were still some virgins. tb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) The Most Performed Ascap Songs of the Century Date: 03 Jan 2000 12:11:56 -0800 (PST) Here is Ascap's top 25 songs of the century. ASCAP ANNOUNCES TOP 25 SONGS OF THE CENTURY "Happy Birthday to You" Is Most Performed ASCAP Song As the century and millennium draw to a close this week, Marilyn Bergman, President and Chairman of ASCAP (the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers) has announced ASCAP's 25 most-performed songs and musical works of the Twentieth Century. Heading the list, with far and away the most performances, is a song known to virtually every adult and child in the United States and around the world -- "Happy Birthday to You," by Mildred J. Hill and Patty Hill. This copyrighted song has been publicly performed hundreds of millions of times this century. ASCAP, the oldest U.S. music rights licensing organization, was founded in 1914 (charter members included Irving Berlin, George M. Cohan , Jerome Kern and Victor Herbert). ASCAP has been licensing and tracking performances of the copyrighted music of its writer and publisher members for almost 86 years. Not only does ASCAP possess the greatest and most envied treasury of song standards, it also boasts an unparalleled contemporary repertory -- the 1999 year-end Billboard Top Ten Charts are dominated by ASCAP songwriters. With over 90,000 members, 4 million copyrighted musical works of every musical genre and style, ASCAP has the highest revenues and deepest catalogue of any performing rights organization in the world. The full "Century" list, in alphabetical order: "As Time Goes By" (Herman Hupfeld) "Blue Moon" (Richard Rodgers, Lorenz Hart) "The Christmas Song" (Mel Torme, Robert Wells) "Happy Birthday to You" (Mildred J. Hill, Patty Hill) "Hello Dolly" (Jerry Herman) "I Could Have Danced All Night" (Frederick Loewe, Alan Jay Lerner) "I Got Rhythm" (George & Ira Gershwin) I Left My Heart in San Francisco" (Douglass Cross, George C. Corey,Jr.) "I Only Have Eyes for You" ((Harry Warren, Al Dubin) "Misty" (Erroll Garner, Johnny Burke") "Moon River" (Henry Mancini, Johnny Mercer) "Night and Day" (Cole Porter) "Over the Rainbow" (Harold Arlen, E.Y. "Yip" Harburg) "Raindrops Keep Fallin' on My Head" (Burt Bacharach, Hal David) "Rhapsody in Blue" (George Gershwin) "Santa Claus Is Coming to Town" (J. Fred Coots, Haven Gillespie) "Stardust" (Hoagy Carmichael, Mitchell Parish) "Sweet Georgia Brown" (Ben Bernie, Kenneth Casey, Maceo Pinkard) "Tea for Two" (Irving Caesar, Vincent Youmans) "That Old Black Magic" (Harold Arlen, Johnny Mercer) "Theme from the Three Penny Opera (Mack the Knife)" (Kurt Weill, Berthold Brecht, Marc Blitzstein) "Unchained Melody" (Alex North, Hy Zaret) "The Way We Were" (Marvin Hamlisch, Alan & Marilyn Bergman) "White Christmas" (Irving Berlin) "Winter Wonderland" (Felix Bernard, Richard B. Smith) The writers of "Happy Birthday to You," sisters Mildred and Patty Hill, were kindergarten and Sunday school teachers in Louisville, Kentucky during the 1890's and later taught at Columbia University in New York City. The song was originally written as "Good Morning to You." With the later addition of the birthday lyrics, the song was copyrighted as "Happy Birthday to You" in 1935. Published by Warner-Chappell, it is almost universally recognized as the official birthday song, and continues to be used extensively in films, television and theater. ASCAP represents its members by licensing and distributing royalties for the non-dramatic public performances of their copyrighted works. ASCAP is the only U.S. performing rights organization governed by and for its members. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) how you say? Date: 03 Jan 2000 15:34:36 -0500 I know there's a bunch of folks on the list who get a kick out of translating stuff from one language to another and back. Here's a site guarateed to keep you (and you know who you are!) busy for a month! -Lou lousmith@pipeline.com xlation.com: Resources for Translation Professionals http://www.xlation.com/ Looking for a glossary of cigar terms, a Danish-Japanese dictionary, or a collection of Cree language lessons? xlation.com is the place to go. Hosting an impressive and actively maintained collection of tools for translation professionals, xlation.com is the work of Robert Altenburg and Dyran Maldonado. The site's features are too numerous to give an exhaustive list here. In the Dictionaries, Glossaries and Word Lists, and Grammar and Idioms sections, users will find links to a range of off-site reference materials. Currently, xlation.com features approximately 1,600 glossaries and more than 60 online grammars. Other sections of the site -- Jobs and Forums, Calendar of Events, and Essays -- focus on information about translation itself, professional opportunities, and related issues. xlation also links to resources on Computer Assisted and Machine Translation, Mailing Lists, and more. As an added bonus, the front page offers a quote, site, and piece of trivia for each day. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) more Spinning on Air Date: 03 Jan 2000 16:01:00 -0500 http://wnyc.org/musicculture/spinning/SOAaudioNew.html To all those who enjoyed the archived Spinning on Air shows from David Garland of WNYC-FM, current shows are now being archived at the URL above. So far there are 3 shows loaded. The shows are: December 10, 1999 Marc Blitzstein's "Cradle Will Rock" http://wnyc.org/musicculture/spinning/ram/soa121099.ram December 17, 1999 Zodiac http://wnyc.org/musicculture/spinning/ram/soa121799.ram December 24, 1999 Moog Xmas http://wnyc.org/musicculture/spinning/ram/soa122499.ram -Lou lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: RE: (exotica) More whistling and canary songsters Date: 03 Jan 2000 13:43:38 -0800 > > Looking very nice, BH. I'm cuckoo for Professor Birdee, from the Hartz > Mountain Parakeet Training Record... > > Ron G., must ask: Is said image from record cover of yore which you hung > with pride in your rec room? It's far better than what I imagined. > I wish, Mimi. I have a few of the diskies BH has, but I'm in the bush leages compared to this dedicated ISM Jedi Knight. Ron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: (exotica) London Scores / First Tune of 2000 Date: 03 Jan 2000 22:41:05 -0000 Hi all and a very happy m-word to every one of you... I was home at my mum's near London over the Xmas/New Year break and I managed to squeeze a shopping trip to London in last Thursday. I came away with some goodies which I thought I would share with you: Music and Tape Exchange, Notting Hill (great selection as always but prices still hugely inflated - 75 quid for an original "Moog Power" anyone?) Terry Snyder - "Persuasive Percussion" (a UK issue - and I didn't even know this *was* issued in the UK! - from 1965 (yes - 5 years after the US issue...) with a great cover shot of Terry Snyder surrounded by go-go girls) Mireille Mathieu - "Les Bicyclettes de Belsize" (only 2 quid - haven't heard any Mathieu before and thought this was a good way to check her out) Ray Martin - "Dynamica" (amazingly only 5 quid - haven't heard it yet so there may be a reason for the low price!) Claude Denjean - "Open Circuit" (15 quid - not *too* bad a price I thought. In fact I got a discount as the LP is on a different label from the one on the sleeve!) Esquivel - "Infinity In Sound / Infinity In Sound 2" (CD) Lord Sitar - epon (mid price CD reissue) And then... Intoxica (Portobello Road) - my first visit (ouch! what a great shop!) Amongst many expensive gems seen in this shop was the original vinyl two-fer LP issue of "Music out of the Moon / Music for Peace of Mind" (for 100 quid!). They also had Mort Garson's "Zodiac" for about 75 quid. But at the cheaper end of the spectrum I did pick up: Ken Nordine et al - "Sounds in Space" (main incentive for getting this was that it was "only" 16 quid) Les Baxter - "Carribean Moonlight" (9 quid - they had lots of other Baxter and Denny but all quite expensive and this Dutch reissue does have possibly my favourite Baxter track, "Taboo", on it...) Tom Scott with the California Dreamers - "The Honeysuckle Breeze" (a vinyl "reissue" I didn't know about - 2 tracks from this LP appear on the California Dreamin' - Jazz Exotica CD comp which came out last year) The Electronic Concept Orchestra - "Moog Groove" (vinyl "reissue" cheaper that I saw it in Rough Trade, not heard it yet) Oh that reminds me - just before Xmas here in Edinburgh I picked up another vinyl "reissue" I'm surprised no-one has mentioned - Don Sebesky's "Distant Galaxy". What a great record that is... And the first track of 2000? Lord Sitar - "If I Were a Rich Man"! Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) London Scores / First Tune of 2000 Date: 03 Jan 2000 17:49:05 EST In a message dated 1/3/0 5:41:05 PM, rcb@easynet.co.uk wrote: >Mireille Mathieu - "Les Bicyclettes de Belsize" (only 2 quid - >haven't heard any Mathieu before and thought this was a good way >to check her out) My pal, married to a French woman, gave me a Mirielle Mathieu LP on vinyl from 1966. (always a safe year to bet on too). I was crazy about it, but then Catherine burst my bubble by informing me that in her circles, Mirielle was considered an Edith Piaf wannabe...Still, the arrangements are more "now" sounding and although the Piaf influence is indeed strong, the Atlantic-recorded tunes she sings generally stand on their own as 6T's period pieces IMHO (although I believe she survived professionally into the 8T's, remember them?)...Jimmy Botticelli # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: Re: (exotica) London Scores / First Tune of 2000 Date: 03 Jan 2000 15:02:21 -0800 (PST) Hi Robbie I really enjoy Moog Groove. It is just one of my faves in that genre. I hope you enjoy it. And Don Sebesky?? I had already noticed today that Johan listed it on his years best. Believe it or not I actually bought Zodiac when it was originally released and use to laugh at it with my friends. Now I am just glad to own it. And I really like Lord Sitar. a lot, but find it annoying the way the stereo is imaged. I think I actually would prefer this in mono. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- Robbie Baldock wrote: > > Intoxica (Portobello Road) - my first visit (ouch! what a great shop!) > Amongst many expensive gems seen in this shop was the original > vinyl two-fer LP issue of "Music out of the Moon / Music for Peace > of Mind" (for 100 quid!). They also had Mort Garson's "Zodiac" for > about 75 quid. But at the cheaper end of the spectrum I did pick > up: > > The Electronic Concept Orchestra - "Moog Groove" (vinyl "reissue" > cheaper that I saw it in Rough Trade, not heard it yet) > > Oh that reminds me - just before Xmas here in Edinburgh I picked > up another vinyl "reissue" I'm surprised no-one has mentioned - > Don Sebesky's "Distant Galaxy". What a great record that is... > > And the first track of 2000? > > Lord Sitar - "If I Were a Rich Man"! > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: RE: (exotica) More whistling and canary songsters Date: 03 Jan 2000 15:27:55 -0800 > I wish, Mimi. I have a few of the diskies BH has, but I'm in the bush > leages compared to this dedicated ISM Jedi Knight. I seem to be languishing in the cellar when it comes to my words-spelled average, too. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) The Most Performed Ascap Songs of the Century Date: 03 Jan 2000 18:31:42 EST In a message dated 01/03/00 3:12:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, chuckmk@yahoo.com writes: << Heading the list, with far and away the most performances, is a song known to virtually every adult and child in the United States and around the world -- "Happy Birthday to You," by Mildred J. Hill and Patty Hill. This copyrighted song has been publicly performed hundreds of millions of times this century. >> Well, Tiki Bob suggested this and those not of the pagan religion were doubters. You would all burn in Hell except we pagans do not believe in Hell. (At least not his pagan -- unless you consider a trip to Montana listening to Britteny Spears as Hell). TB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: (exotica) Testing one, two... Date: 03 Jan 2000 18:03:17 -0800 Here's a stream I set up for Jack Diamond - It's an aircheck of one of his old shows. I am giving live365.com another chance at streaming my stuff. It's been a pain in the past, but I hear they are getting better, so if y'all can check it out and send some feedback, I'd appreciate it. Modem users in distant lands (not US or Canada) are especially encouraged to let me know how it it comes accross. I'll ask Jack to forward me a playlist so I can pass it along. Great Show. Original Broadcast 3-28-99 Plug these numbers into your stream player http://216.32.166.82:8698 Thanks. Ron Grandia # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: Re: (exotica) Testing one, two...Playlist Date: 03 Jan 2000 18:16:47 -0800 Get the playlist here... http://www.spies.com/misc/kfjc/md/pl/1999-03-31/diamond.Mar.28.13.html It's a good'un. Ron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: RE: (exotica) More whistling and canary songsters Date: 03 Jan 2000 23:02:47 -0500 Ron commented about BasicHip: > this dedicated ISM Jedi Knight. Yeah, BH is more than a collector....a real force of nature! Keep it up, BasicHip! Your cheerleader in Austin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Mireille Mathieu Date: 04 Jan 2000 05:34:46 +0000 >My pal, married to a French woman, gave me a Mirielle Mathieu LP on vinyl >from 1966. (always a safe year to bet on too). I was crazy about it, but then >Catherine burst my bubble by informing me that in her circles, Mirielle was >considered an Edith Piaf wannabe... My favourite track by Mireille is 'Une Femme Amourouse' which is the French version of Barbra S's 'A woman in love', and it's streets ahead. Sorry Babs, but Mireille sings it from the heart and soul... Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Josh Renaud" Subject: (exotica) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 09:44:06 -0500 Date: 04 Jan 2000 07:45:22 -0700 Hi everyone. My name is Josh and I hail from sunny Florida. I dont really know what to say, just wanted to introduce myself to the list. I dont have a Tiki hut or a collection of Tiki mugs (or any coconut products, for that matter), but I do enjoy lounge music and lounge culture. I'm especially fond of Martin Denny, Les Baxter, Dean Martin, Sinatra, and the slower stylings of Bobby Darin, among others. I'm also into ska, reggae, and funk, although these are somewhat far removed from lounge and exotica. Anyway, I'm happy to be on this list and I hope some more people post to it! JOSH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Elmyr Welles" Subject: Re: (exotica) London Scores / First Tune of 2000 Date: 04 Jan 2000 09:46:52 -0500 On Mon, 3 Jan 2000 15:02:21 -0800 (PST) chuck wrote: >I really enjoy Moog Groove. It is just one of my faves in that genre. I >hope you enjoy it. > Have you had a chance to check out this collection? http://www.bestofmoog.com/ "I wanted this collection to sound like C3PO's idea of a good "fuck album" and if I've managed to do that well, then, I've succeeded!" ---Richard Metzger Elmyr _____________________________________________________________ Email your boss can't read - sign up for free disinfo.net email at http://www.disinfo.com, your gateway to the underground. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) Re: if someone could comb through everything that everyone has sa Date: 04 Jan 2000 15:17:43 -0000 Johan, you mad impetuous fool! Did you awake one day and think, 'I just have too much free time'? Good work and good luck. And as for Jack Diamond, I seem to recall he said it was Lou or him and the consensus seemed to go with the good Doctor (Death). Mainly it must be said in memory of Catch Ketchamori and the Lava Wall of Doom. Happy new year. What will we look forward to now we're in the 21st Century? El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ i'm so glad you asked, Byron, 'cause that's exactly what i'm doing right now... well, not comb through EVERYTHING, but i do save comments and reviews about recent CD's and new vinyl now and then (so, not about old collectable vinyl - someone else should do that). i put them in my filemaker database, upon which the "eXotica Releases Overview" is based. in its next version, all those quotes are to be combined under each record. but it needs some programming work, AND i need to ask permission to each and everyone who wrote a comment, to use it. i'm also thinking of changing the name into something more appropriate, but i don't know what... something like "fragments of the collective memory of some members of the exotica mailing list about exotica and related CD's and new vinyl"... so, what do you all think? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) The Dennies Date: 04 Jan 2000 08:33:43 -0800 (PST) Well folks, the new year is here and already we're seeing a slew of awards shows on TV. I been thinking though that our type of music has been ignored enough. I have brainstormed some categories and will present them as soon as I'm sure I like 'em. In the meantime, be thinking about who and what you'd like to nominate for the first annual Denny awards! What I plan to do is first take nominations. Basically, this is where you do a brain dump and forward all potential nominees to me. I'll coalate and tabulate and present the top 4 or 5 nominees in each category for voting. Then we'll vote and I'll announce the winners. Remember, it has to have been released (or re-released) in 1999 to qualify. Also, for nominations, this only works if everyone nominates as many albums/groups/acts as they can think of. I'll explain the details in the next post. In the meantime, consider who you'd like to see get an award! PS: If someone would like to spend a little time developing a graphic or something that people could actually use, that'd be great too. I hope there's lots of turnout and I'll be presenting the categories in the next couple of days, so stay tuned! Thanks, Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jane Fondle" Subject: Re: (exotica) First song of the year 2000... Date: 04 Jan 2000 12:51:19 EST > >In a message dated 1/1/0 10:19:07 AM, hagar@mindspring.com wrote: > > >the first song I > >heard was "Friday at the Hideout" by the Underdogs! First song off CD: E.V.A. by JJPerrey First song off LP: Now I know how some of you boys feel...I got to UNSEAL VIRGIN VINYL...and the song was "The Liquidator" off of Dick Hyman's MAN FROM O.R.G.A.N. Jane Fondle, breakin' a Hyman ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Jean De Vres and his Afro Drums Date: 03 Jan 2000 19:47:32 +0100 Jean De Vres and his Afro Drums: "Exciting Voodoo" LP, Palace PST-636 stereo Great voodoo chanting and Afro drumming. One odd thing: track B2, Fire dance, also appears on Rykodisc's compilation CD, Music For The Jet Set, under a different title, and credited to one Soubri Moulin, the only difference being that Moulin adds a flute, and that his version is shorter... did he borrow de Vres' recording, or did they both use the same voodoo field recording? strange. Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: (exotica) Palm Springs Holiday Date: 04 Jan 2000 10:48:40 PST Interesting and fun item. On my xmas/new years vacation in the Southwest (arizona,california) I was visiting my great aunt Rache in Palm Springs California (who happens to live on a street called Tiki Lane). Palm Springs has been a getaway for music/film people since the early part of last century. Anyway on my visit I soon found out that my family were pioneers. Great, great grandparents, uncles, aunts etc, who moved there in the 20s built and ran many of the first movie theaters, The Plaza Theater and The Village Theater and night clubs, the Doll House and the Chi-Chi club as well as others. My aunt, pointed me into the direction of the Palm Springs pioneer cemetery in case I was so inclined to go see some family headstones. Anyway, I had a looksee and noticed that most of my family were clustered in one area and in that cluster I found the headstone of none other than Hugo Mario Montenegro. Whether I am related I do not know, but it was just interesting to see the grave of someone whose music I enjoy. I looked around briefly to see if there were any other famous dead folks (hello Lou!) but was soon ran out by the guard who thought we were just dead star gazing. Im sure that there were many more around if I looked longer. Also while in Palm Springs I saw the house that Les Baxter lived in (took some photos) as well as Frank Sinatra's original house (2 doors down from my Uncle Earl Strebe). I couldnt believe how modest some of these houses were. And I hear that Keely Smith still lives in Palm Springs. If you feel like it, I would recommend seeing Palm Springs a lot of the old architecture is still standing and its original charm intact. (for how much longer, I do not know) Its history is neat and the weather is FABOOOO!! Thats all, hope everyone had the best of holidays!! -jonathan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Palm Springs or Death takes a Holiday Date: 04 Jan 2000 14:08:39 -0500 jonathan richardson wrote: > My aunt, pointed me into the direction of the Palm Springs pioneer cemetery in case I was so inclined to go see some family headstones. Anyway, I had a looksee and noticed that most of my family were clustered in one area and in that cluster I found the headstone of none other than Hugo Mario Montenegro. Whether I am related I do not know, but it was just interesting to see the grave of someone whose music I enjoy. I looked around briefly to see if there were any other famous dead folks (hello Lou!) Hey, yerself, Jonathan! Before your next visit to PS, visit this URL: http://www.findagrave.com/state/6.html -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Palm Springs or Death takes a Holiday Date: 04 Jan 2000 14:13:26 -0500 nytab@pipeline.com wrote: >Hey, yerself, Jonathan! >Before your next visit to PS, visit this URL: >http://www.findagrave.com/state/6.html Oops -- instead of URL above, try: http://www.findagrave.com/city/138.html At that site you'll find more info on such eternal PS residents as: Farrell, Charles D. Farrell, Virginia Faye, Alice Harris, Phil Madison, Guy Montenegro, Hugo Robbins, Harold Rogers, Buddy Saunders, Jacqueline -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Grammy nominees Date: 04 Jan 2000 15:19:02 -0500 http://grammy.com/nominee/list.pdf Those who are interested in the nominees in all 98 categories, and who have Adobe Acrobat, may want to slog through the URL above. Y'all may be interested to know that Herb Alpert has been nominated in Category 9 for "The Look Of Love," and that Ultra-Lounge Tiki Sampler is up for a packaging Grammy in Category 77. Lou lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Bring Jack Back Date: 04 Jan 2000 13:19:23 -0800 (PST) Hi Mimi I certainly want Jack back on the list for his insights. He knew a lot of exotica no doubt about it. I think the only way to get that guy back on the list is to email him at his address which is of coarse jack@jackdiamond.com Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck Mimi Mayer wrote: Speaking of oldies but goodies, I'm toying with relaunching a Bring Jack > Back campaign. Quoths Ron: "He knows records and he knows how to use 'em. > Plus Jack's a secret sweetie-pie. Who'd like to join me in a pro-Jack > filibuster? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: RE: (exotica) Bring Jack Back Date: 04 Jan 2000 13:50:13 -0800 I'm > toying with relaunching a Bring Jack > > Back campaign. Quoths Ron: "He knows records and he knows how > to use 'em. > > Plus Jack's a secret sweetie-pie. Who'd like to join me in a pro-Jack > > filibuster? I said that? Whooee, I do have a way with words, don't I? Jack once commented that he though he was barred from the list - Is this the case? If so, I can't imagine why. I know he is prickly at times (a comment I am sure he sould not disagree with)but I can't imagine any infraction that would get him banned - we are all big boys and girls, and able to deal with all sorts of personalities, yes? A movement to bring back Jack? Hell yes. A filibuster? Well... No. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Recent Finds & digitized tradables Date: 04 Jan 2000 18:45:35 -0500 At 03:05 PM 1/3/00 EST, Thinkmatic@aol.com wrote: > >"Pagan Festival" by Dominic Frontiere uses an Inca theme and has the >orchestral/choral chanting quality of Baxter's "Tamboo!" & "Scared Idol". >This album also sounds enough like Baxter for me to like it, quite a bit. I >give it 11.21 on my scale of 0.86 - 13.004 Speaking of Dominic. What's he most famous for? Or what is it I think of when I see his name? Some famous movie he scored or something? Anyway, I recently picked up his record "Love Eyes, the moods of romance" and I'd put is solidly in the category of "a lot better than it might have been". The tunes are all originals which in and of itself, is a relief. The titles are all things like "Jealous", "Sultry", "Fickle", Wistful". And they range from weepy to tres cool, especially the tune called "Beatnick" which, I guess, describes a mood. Jealous Innocent Lonely Childish Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Palm Springs Holiday Date: 04 Jan 2000 18:45:39 -0500 At 10:48 AM 1/4/00 PST, jonathan richardson wrote: > > I found the headstone of none other than Hugo >Mario Montenegro. Didn't even know he was dead. I know that you aren't telling a story here of going to visit famous musician graves but I wonder if anyone here has such stories. I actually think it's a kind of a strange thing to do. Having said that, I did do it once. In Memphis, I visited Furry Lewis's grave. There's this alternate guide to Memphis. It's called something like "The White Trash Guide to Memphis". And they have directions for finding Furry Lewis's grave. We thought "What the hell". But the guide didn't exactly prepare us for the state of the graveyard that contained the grave or for the needle-in-a-haystack that finding the grave would require. If you go to Memphis, you gotta do it. Even if you don't know Furry Lewis or his music. You gotta do it for the graveyard itself, unless such things creep you out. If they do, then forget you read this. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring Jack Back Date: 04 Jan 2000 19:30:06 EST << A movement to bring back Jack? Hell yes. >> Yes, get him back here! It's always good to have the boat rocked a bit... While we are on the subject of bringing back people, I nominate the undisputed goddess of thrift store vinyl, Jessica Cameron. She was always such a sweetheart, knew her stuff very well and how to write about it and - I must confess - I had a bit of a crush on her. thanks for the space :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) A Les Baxter Mystery Date: 04 Jan 2000 18:46:44 -0600 Maybe somebody out there knows the answer to this mystery. I've been unable to turn up the answer! Some months ago, I acquired a beautiful poster for a film called "College Capers" (Universal-International, 1954). According to the poster it was a "featurette" which, I assume, means a short. What's intriguing, and what first attracted me to the poster, is that the STAR of the movie is none other than Les Baxter! I know Les appeared in some films, but I've never heard of this one. The poster shows Les in three poses--playing a flute, playing the piano and leading a big band. There's also a shot of his co-star, Eileen Barton, wielding an African gourd shaker. Since it apparently was only a short, it's been mighty difficult to track down any information about "College Capers". In fact, I haven't been able to learn ANYTHING about it! Anybody out there know anything about this film, especially a video source? Needless to say, I'd love to see it!!! Any help much appreciated. Thanks for the space! Darrell Brogdon dbrogdon@ukans.edu The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) A Les Baxter Mystery Date: 04 Jan 2000 22:53:22 EST In a message dated 1/4/00 7:49:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, dbrogdon@falcon.cc.ukans.edu writes: << "College Capers". In fact, I haven't been able to learn ANYTHING about it! Anybody out there know anything about this film, especially a video source? >> sounds like a predecessor to the music video! tb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: Re: (exotica) Testing one, two... Date: 04 Jan 2000 09:50:10 -0800 >Thanks Ron for putting Jack on. What great taste in muic he has. > >This site didn't stream but started downloading with 3 hours left when I hit >the cancel button. Don't worry about fixing it for me, I just wanted to >tell you to help you out > >Thanks >Chuck Since the list cannot handle HTML messages, the address is not "clickable." You have to open your streaming player (Winamp, Sonique, RA7, whatever) and plug the address in manually. I did not want to go to the trouble of making an web-page untill I was sure Live365 is stable. It used to be a nightmare, seems better now. Those numbers again... http://216.32.166.82:8698 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Fwd: Re: Today in music history.... Date: 04 Jan 2000 16:01:42 -0500 Received: from lists1.best.com by gwgate1.jhmi.jhu.edu; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 15:55:54 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists1.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.ls) id MAA03281; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 12:15:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200001042015.MAA03281@lists1.best.com> BestServHost: lists.best.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: cowabunga-errors@lists.best.com Errors-To: cowabunga-errors@lists.best.com Reply-To: In a message dated 1/4/00 10:26:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, machturtle@earthlink.net writes: << 1950 RCA Victor announced that it would manufacture long-playing (LP) records. This news came two years after Columbia Records debuted the "album" >> The following is an email I meant to send in 1951 but the lack of computers and internet at the time has delayed it a little: Man these lp's suck compared to my good ol' '78's , I gotta tell ya. These lp's spin way too slow and don't have the warnth of my '78's. Not only that, but have you seen how flimsy these suckers are, talk about cheap! And who needs to be buyin' all those extra "filler" songs. Next thing ya know their probably going to find a way to make us buy two speakers. Marty # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) It wasn't me -- honest! Date: 04 Jan 2000 18:03:35 -0500 And as for Jack Diamond, I seem to recall he said it was Lou or him and the consensus seemed to go with the good Doctor (Death). -------------------- If we go back into the archives just 'bout a year, we find this: Lou Smith Writes (exotica) I'm back & they're gone (obits) I knew something was missing from my life It was you, Lou! Welcome back, I's missed jda! JD --------------------- See, I'm innocent!! JD's absence ain't got nothin' to do wit me! -Lou lousmith@pipeline.com (innocent i tells ya!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Palm Springs Holiday Date: 05 Jan 2000 00:43:37 EST In a message dated 1/4/00 6:42:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, bruno@yhammer.com writes: << > I found the headstone of none other than Hugo >Mario Montenegro. Didn't even know he was dead. >> Lou musta been asleep at the keyboard that day. tb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) A Les Baxter Mystery Date: 04 Jan 2000 21:35:20 -0800 Darrell Brogdon wrote: > Some months ago, I acquired a beautiful poster for a film called > "College Capers" (Universal-International, 1954). According to the > poster it was a "featurette" which, I assume, means a short. > What's intriguing, and what first attracted me to the poster, is that > the STAR of the movie is none other than Les Baxter! I know Les > appeared in some films, but I've never heard of this one. Baxter also worked in radio and television. He was the music arranger for the Bob Hope and Abbott & Costello radio shows and wrote and arranged for such TV shows as "Cliffhangers," "The Milton Berle Show," "The Tycoon" and "The Gumby Special." He briefly hosted his own variety show in southern California. He also dabbled in acting, appearing in "College Capers" (1954) and "Untamed Youth" (1957) with Mamie Van Doren and Eddie Cochran. The Internet Movie Database does not have anything on this film: http://us.imdb.com/Name?Baxter,+Les There is a listing of a 3D movie from 1953 called College Capers The movie poster is here, but does not mention Baxter: http://www.matineetoday.com/3-D/COLLEG1.JPG Sorry, that's all I could find too. Kevin Crossman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Josh Renaud" Subject: Re: (exotica) A Les Baxter Mystery Date: 05 Jan 2000 09:07:09 -0500 | From: http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/baxter.htm | He briefly | hosted his own variety show in southern California. He also dabbled in | acting, appearing in | "College Capers" (1954) and "Untamed Youth" (1957) with Mamie Van Doren | and Eddie | Cochran. I looked at that list of movies and I can honestly say I would pay for every single one of them based on the titles alone. Just thought I'd mention that... JOSH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) college capers (was: A Les Baxter Mystery) Date: 05 Jan 2000 09:40:26 -0500 > In a message dated 1/4/00 7:49:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, dbrogdon@falcon.cc.ukans.edu writes: Try these, though I'd bet the second 2 are for a different version of College Capers: http://www.matineetoday.com/3-D/COLLEG1.JPG http://www.videoshop.co.uk/a/a-cl.htm http://www.thezone.co.uk/data/ACOM-07-7.html -L # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Johnny Gregory - Avengers Date: 05 Jan 2000 14:53:32 -0000 Happy New Year to you all. I was given 'The Avengers and other TV themes' by Johnny Gregory (Ewing records - a Phillips cheapo label?) for my birthday (alas no record gifts for Xmas). And its really rather good (apart from a terrible version of 'The roaring Twenties'). Fairly conventional big band arrangements, but it swings, and I don't have any other versions of nearly every cut on it. I imagine its English as the track mentioned in the title is English and it has the Maigret theme, but the rest of the selection is decidedly American, Perry Mason etc. I wondered if anyone knows anything about Johnny Gregory, is it the same as John Gregory? You see his stuff around, but what I've heard I've been decidedly underwhelmed by. I did quite well for my birthday and will be posting some more. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jane Fondle" Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring Jack Back Date: 05 Jan 2000 10:16:11 EST >Hi Mimi > >I certainly want Jack back on the list for his insights. Speaking of Jack,what's the latest on the outterspace exotica comp he's organizing for Rhino???JaneFondle ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits] Bill Edwards,Pierre Clementi,Michael McEachern McDowell Date: 05 Jan 2000 10:20:58 -0500 *Bill Edwards NEWPORT BEACH, Calif. (AP) -- Bill Edwards, a rodeo rider who became an actor in the 1940s and then turned to painting, died Dec. 21. He was 81. Broken bones brought Edwards' riding career to a halt, and the 6-foot 5-inch Edwards became a model in New York City. An agent brought him to Hollywood in the early 1940s. In addition to Western films, Edwards had featured roles in ``Our Hearts Were Young and Gay'' and ``Hail the Conquering Hero,'' both in 1944. Edwards began drawing horses as a child and continued drawing as he grew up on a Wyoming ranch. In the 1950s he became a painter and commercial illustrator, creating hundreds of covers for paperback books and designing paper dolls of movie stars. http://allmovie.com/cg/x.dll?UID=10:12:02|AM&p=avg&sql=B208218 -------- Pierre Clementi Wiry and darkly handsome French actor Pierre Clementi died of liver cancer Dec. 27 in Paris. He was 57. A counterculture icon whose mere presence in a movie often hinted at impulses dark and dissolute, Clementi lent his ascetic demeanor to films by the cream of European directors, starting in 1960. Perhaps best known for his role as Catherine Deneuve’s sadistic metal-toothed client in “Belle de Jour” (1967), Clementi first made his mark onscreen as the son of Prince Salina in Luchino Visconti’s “The Leopard” (1963). The son of a concierge and an unknown father, Paris-born Clementi was steered toward acting when the director of the reform school he’d been sent to at age 13 encouraged him to recite and record poetry. Clementi’s charismatic blend of street-smart menace and inspired dandy endeared him to the artistic and intellectual crowd of Left Bank Paris in the late 1950s and early ’60s. After studying at the Cours Dullin drama academy and embracing the visceral techniques then being taught at the American Center, Clementi was cast in films in France and Italy. In addition to features by Yves Allegret, Michel Deville and Costa Gavras, Clementi’s 40-plus screen roles included noteworthy performances in Pier Paolo Pasolini’s “Porcile” (1969), Luis Bunuel’s 1969 "The Milky Way”, Liliana Cavani’s “I Cannibali” (1969) and Bernardo Bertolucci’s “The Conformist” (1970). Clementi also appeared in Dusan Makavejev’s “Sweet Movie,” Jacques Rivette’s “Pont du Nord,” James Ivory’s “Quartet,” James Toback’s “Exposed” and Yves Boisset’s 1983 Lee Marvin-starrer “Dog Day.” Most recently, Clementi excelled as a casually decadent Frenchman in Jane Campion’s “Hideous Kinky.” Clementi, who directed four experimental and underground films of his own between 1967 and 1988, was also noted for his distinctive stage work as a writer and performer. Arrested at Cinecitta in 1971 on charges of drug use and possession, Clementi spent 17 months in prison before being released due to insufficient proof. He is survived by his companion, Claudine Leclerc, and two children. ------------ Michael McEachern McDowell; Horror Novelist Also Wrote Movie Chillers By MYRNA OLIVER, L.A. Times Staff Writer Michael McEachern McDowell, author of a score of horror novels who went on to script such offbeat motion pictures as director Tim Burton's "Beetlejuice" and "The Nightmare Before Christmas," has died at the age of 49. McDowell, who also wrote for the television series and movie "Tales From the Darkside," died Monday (Dec. 27) in a Boston hospital of the complications of AIDS. After his diagnosis with the disease in 1994, McDowell taught screenwriting at Boston and Tufts universities and continued to write commissioned screenplay treatments. He had been working on treatments of a "Beetlejuice" sequel and a new version of "The Nutcracker." There was little in his background to indicate that he would become a prolific writer on the occult, the supernatural, madness and the psyches of serial killers. He was born in Enterprise, Ala., to an accountant and a social worker and earned highest honors in English at Harvard and a doctorate at Brandeis University. McDowell began writing in college, but worked as a teacher, a theater critic and a secretary at Massachusetts Institution of Technology until royalties started supporting him. Starting in 1979 with his first novel, "The Amulet," involving a supernatural bracelet, McDowell specialized in paperback books with mind- and stomach-churning plots and characters. His second novel, "Cold Moon Over Babylon" in 1980, focused on a murdered woman whose spirit roams the land seeking revenge on her killer, who is plotting her relatives' demise. McDowell won particular praise for his ability to balance the mundane with supernatural activity. In the "St. James Guide to Horror, Ghost & Gothic Writers," Don D'Ammassa called the Babylon book "one of the best ghost stories ever written at novel length." In 1983, McDowell wrote six serial paperback novels, one published each month by Avon, known collectively as the Blackwater novels. Titled "The Flood," "The Levee," "The House," "The War," "The Fortune" and "Rain," they chronicled the history of a Southern family over more than 60 years and became extremely popular with readers and critics. "McDowell's strengths are many," author and critic Alan Ryan wrote of the Blackwater serial for the Washington Post. "His prose is rich, allusive and often intricate, yet so smoothly polished that it never distracts from the tale. "He has a terrific ability to get at the dark side of human nature and to delineate the psychological depths of eccentric and bizarre characters," Ryan continued. "His usual mode is to adopt an omniscient view and gradually reveal all to us as his characters disport themselves. He is in many ways a 19th century novelist with a 20th century sensibility. He is a wonderful writer." Adept at several genres, McDowell teamed with Dennis Schuetz under the joint pseudonym Nathan Aldyne to write four gay detective novels -- "Vermillion," "Cobalt," "Slate" and "Canary." McDowell and Schuetz also co-wrote the novels "Blood Rubies" and "Wicked Stepmother" under the single pseudonym Axel Young. After a decade and a half of churning out books, McDowell switched media but didn't abandoned scary topics. He moved into television writing, penning scripts for such series as "Tales From the Darkside," Steven Spielberg's "Amazing Stories" and a syndicated stepchild of "Tales" called "Monsters." He also wrote for the television series "Alfred Hitchcock Presents" and television specials "Lover Come Hack to Me" and "JFK Conspiracy." Joining Burton, who also relished the macabre, McDowell co-wrote the screenplay for 1988's "Beetlejuice" with Warren Skaaren, based on an original story by McDowell and Larry Wilson about a dead couple returning to their home. The film became a cult favorite and spun off a long-running stage show at Universal Studios Hollywood theme park. McDowell went on to write screenplays for the ghostly 1988 farce "High Spirits," starring Peter O'Toole and Liam Neeson; "Tales from the Darkside: The Movie," starring Christian Slater in 1990; the whimsical animated "Nightmare Before Christmas" in 1993, and "Thinner," which was based on horror writer Stephen King's story and released in 1996. McDowell is survived by his sister, Ann, of West Hollywood; his brother, James, of Virginia Beach, Va.; and his companion of 30 years, Laurence Senelick of Medford, Mass. http://allmovie.com/cg/x.dll?UID=10:12:02|AM&p=avg&sql=B102070 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Recent Finds & digitized tradables Date: 05 Jan 2000 07:27:17 -0800 (PST) I'm so glad you posted about "Love Eyes" to the list. I almost purchased this a couple of times but my 6th sense said it wasn't worth the buck they were asking for. This is at a store in New Orleans that keeps a bin of records and books out front to attract customers in. This record may have been exposed to the New Orleans heat for awhile now. ARRRG! I spoke with the store owner about this practice and he said he never really thought about it . Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck > > --- Nat Kone wrote: > > Anyway, I recently picked up his record "Love Eyes, the moods of > romance" > > and I'd put is solidly in the category of "a lot better than it might > have > > been". The tunes are all originals which in and of itself, is a relief. > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://messenger.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) The Ledgendary Stardust Cowboy Date: 05 Jan 2000 08:17:11 -0800 (PST) A friend of mine sent me this email. Does anyone know much about this guy. My freind played the song for me on the phone and the Leg Cowboy does alot of slobbering screaming wordless vocals. Kinda like a Wild Man Fisher sort of guy. Easy listening in the Big easy Chuck --- Bob wrote I am still looking up The Legendary Stardust Cowboy. This is > pretty much all I have found. He has an album called Live In Chicago > from 1998 but there's no picture of it at either CDNow or Amazon. There > are lots of Legedary Stardust Cowboy sites but they are all dead links > so far.... > > > n.p.: Benny Goodman 1935 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Josh Renaud" Subject: Re: (exotica) The Ledgendary Stardust Cowboy Date: 05 Jan 2000 11:19:10 -0500 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230433615 Here's a record of his I found on eBay. JOSH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) Lust - DC/Gainsbourg Date: 05 Jan 2000 16:24:53 -0000 One LP I bought for myself over Christmas was by Depth charge (responsible for re-releasing the 'Hanged Man' soundtrack) which has a cover of the Gainsbourg track Harley Davidson (well, its credited to him) the only version of it I'm familiar with is Brigitte Bardot's. It doesn't sound much like it, but its an excellent organ driven hiphop track with a semi-spoken female voice over the top. I'm not too sure about the rest of the LP, This is the first track, the second is horribly murky so I don't get far into that. But it is an excellent version all the same. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) DC Date: 05 Jan 2000 16:45:52 +0000 Depth Charge's crowning glory are the first 3 singles. Depth Charge by Depth Charge features the depth charge sound, slow and moody breakbeats and a fantastic sample from a kung fu film: "I am Han Do Jin, Hang Wong's Son. And now I'm going to do to you what you did to my father in the woods ten years ago"/"I'll die after you, I'll see to that", etc etc. This is one of my favourite wierded out dance records. The second one, Bounty Killer is full of western samples - a speech by a Mexican about a bounty hunter, gun shots and horse sounds, all sampled from High Plains Drifter. "Who are you????". Again, its all laid over slow breakbeats and works very well. The third single, Dead by Dawn is all horror film samples about something being in the basement. Also good but without the edge of the first two singles. J Saul Kane, who is Depth Charge, I think owned Vinyl Solution which was the label responsible for a few classic rave records and which we loved back then. His shop was also called Vinyl Solution and was close to Intoxica (maybe Intoxica is the same shop) but is closed now. I personally think that JSK's Depth Charge moniker has been in steady decline for a while now but I would like to hear a bit more of his remix work. All this is from vague recollections so I reserve the right to be slightly wrong. 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Some of the vocals are done Chipmunk Nutty Squirrel style that just adds to the wildness of this record. Generally the cuts are instrumentals This is an amazingly weird fun record. I understand from the liner notes these are studio musicians (French Canadian?) who got together to put this out . Any more information on this is welcome. This is one of my favorite rereleases of last year. I'm curious if the list members from Canada have a vinyl copy of this or other releases by this wild wonderful group of musicians. For track titles and more information and Jack's review where he describes this album as "Today Now Go Go Sounds Psychedelia, as in Real Lounge Psychedelia" go to http://www.jackdiamond.com/psychedelic_cds.html Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: Re: (exotica) Johnny Gregory - Avengers Date: 05 Jan 2000 17:16:54 GMT > From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk > > Happy New Year to you all. > > I was given 'The Avengers and other TV themes' by Johnny Gregory (Ewing > records - a Phillips cheapo label?) for my birthday (alas no record gifts > for Xmas). And its really rather good (apart from a terrible version of > 'The roaring Twenties'). Fairly conventional big band arrangements, but it > swings, and I don't have any other versions of nearly every cut on it. I > imagine its English as the track mentioned in the title is English and it > has the Maigret theme, but the rest of the selection is decidedly American, > Perry Mason etc. Wing Records was indeed a Phillips cheapo; most Wing stuff I've found has been pretty battered, though. I hope you've got the release with the screamingly green plastic skull on the drak (or even dark) blue background cover, one of the most toe-curling eyeball-peeling covers of all time. Doesn't this one also has a version of the Avengers theme (from the first one or two series) that was used before the famous Laurie Johnson one? > > I wondered if anyone knows anything about Johnny Gregory, is it the same as > John Gregory? You see his stuff around, but what I've heard I've been > decidedly underwhelmed by. > Johnny Gregory probably equals John Gregory. Johnny Gregory also equals Chaquito, and The Cascading Strings. Chaquito albums are usually scorching Latin albums. Look out for "That Swinging Chaquito Sound", "The Great Chaquito Revolution", "Latin Colours" (especially for the INSANELY swinging cheesy "Upa Negrino") and a Chaquito one on Wing (can't remember the title). Sadly the Fontana compilation featuring the bird in the knitted bikini isn't much cop in comparison. The Cascading Strings are pretty much as they sound, but there's some wild stuff on occasion ("Race With The Devil"), and some stuff is definitely worth a spin if you're in a saccharine, drippy sort of mood, it's good stuff in that line. Not sure whether he was connected with "The New Cascading Strings". I've got a couple of early (late 50s) J.G. albums, one on Ember and another on Fontana, both of which are ditchwater-dull light music a la Chacksfield, but IIRC they have a fair bit of biography info on them, so I could probably dig up stuff on his early career if you're interested. Can't actually think if I've got anything else credited to J.G. right now, I'll take a squint when I get home. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Frontiere Date: 05 Jan 2000 12:25:05 EST In a message dated 1/5/00 11:45:42 AM US Eastern Standard Time, owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: << Speaking of Dominic. What's he most famous for? Or what is it I think of when I see his name? Some famous movie he scored or something? >> He was an accordion player who recorded a good LP called Mr. Accordion. He also formed a band of 20 accordion players which went by the name of "The Mighty Accordion Band". They put out an excellent LP in the late 50's called "They Said It Couldn't Be Done" which has a gorilla playing accordion on the front. Frontiere also composed and performed the music for the great original "Outer Limits" show (early 60's) -- one of the greatest TV shows ever which influenced Star Trek and other sci fi shows. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: (exotica) Subotnick in NYC Date: 05 Jan 2000 09:29:15 PST For those interested in the more electronic end of exotica you might be interested in seeing this free in-store in at Other Music in NYC: Morton Subotnick (live performance and demonstration) Monday, January 24 8 p.m. Other Music, http://www.othermusic.com i believe is located at 15 E 4th Street I wish i could go. Should prove to be interesting. Im sure it will be a bleep-bloopin' good time! -jonathan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: if someone could comb through everything that Date: 05 Jan 2000 15:54:36 +0100 thanks for the support, Nate, and you're offering to co-edit. currently, i see no way of letting someone else help me with what i want to do. once the first version is up and running though, anyone will be able to add comments. so at that time, you could start delving into the old list archives, and edit out and copy interesting bits, and forward them to me, so that i can include them in the database. which i'll try to keep doing, as long as i'm not drowning in such additions. i _could_ need some help in writing a little javascript that would anable visitors to click on a "add comment" button that takes them to a form. i have no experience at all in javascript. Robbie? Johan ----- At 14:06 -0500 2000/01/03, Nathan Miner wrote: >Johan: > >This sounds like a great idea, I've often thought it would be cool to >create a fanzine around the writings here on Exotica. I mean, there's >such a wealth of information zapping across my monitor that it seems like >a logical step to "hardcopy" and organize everything into a more >accessible type of "database." > >I volunteer to co-edit............ > >- Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) The Maledictus Sound Date: 05 Jan 2000 15:49:30 +0100 The Maledictus Sound: "Les Maledictus Sound" CD, Mucho Gusto, Canada, 1999 Wonderful, surprising, incredible! Sort of Symphonic mod sound. Although the notes suggest a large amount of improvisation, all tracks are very good compositions, with great melodies. Their name suggests spooky and dark sounds, but their music is very pop, bright, happy, funny even at times. reminds me a bit of Peter Thomas: the same Euro big band sound, with wild electric guitars, and weird/funny sounds (like Chipmunk style voices for exemple, or screaming). There's 1 track with whistling, several with kazoo's, drums with echo, and almost all tracks have a big string section - but luckily not the sirup kind of strings. The opening track (Kriminal Theme) is spy funk, and uses several sound bits from Pierre Henry's "Messe pour le temps present". "Concerto genocido" sounds surprisingly optimistic, with baroque trumpets. There's also symphonic Hammond soul, and what sounds like Buddy Merrill on acid. Highly recommended! i bought it from Jack Diamond, and this is what he wrote about it: Originally released in 1968. Jello Biafra talks about this LP in his Incredibly Strange Music Book Interview in Vol 2. Awesome, "Today Now Go Go Sounds Psychedelia", as in real Lounge Psychedelia, but probably MUCH better than that, go ahead and quote me on a new genre, BUT YOU GOTTA GIMMIE CREDIT FOR IT, with a couple of tracks of "Nutty Squirrels-Esque" sounds. "Kriminal Theme" is 1 of the most amazing spy jazz crime sounding psychedelia I have EVER heard in my life. Damn, man Seriously spooky slowed down down down Morricone-esque spaghetti western electric guitars and some of THE MOST WICKED electric guitars (different tracks than spaghetti guitars) that start out first for a very brief half second sounding like a Harmonica, but the very next part of that second, WE ALL KNOW it is that fucking killer insane screamin' guitar that just fucking rules and will tear your head clean off. Yum yum. It is awesome. THEN, there are a few killer organ led go go sounds things, organ and electric guitar with horns things. * Liner notes: The genre of this record is unidentifiable. Its composition is a collaboration of classical and modern artists is association with session musicians towards a common goal: the research of sound. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Welcome to Chinatown! Date: 05 Jan 2000 13:06:18 -0500 We picked up a really good CD compilation last week called Welcome to Chinatown Vol. 1 - Oriental "Popcorn" Tracks. It's kind of like Jungle Exotica, one of my favourite compilations, but with a kitchy Chinese theme. I was trying to find out more about it and the label, "Marginal Records" as the disc dates from 1995, there is no e-mail or web adress, and the mail order address could be out of date. I was about to ask Johan as it is a Belgian label but my web search turns up one hit, not surprisingly his own listing of 1995 releases! > v/a : Welcome to Chinatown - Oriental "Popcorn" tracks, vol.1 * > (Marginal MAR CD 002, BE, 1995) > direct mailorder: Patrick Michiels, PB 4, 9100 Nieuwkerke, > Belgium) Just want to recommend this one and at the same time ask Johan if he can post more info on this and other releases on the label and to confirm the mailorder address (or e-mail if any?). Also is there a Volume 2? Thanks, Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Brass Ring...... Date: 05 Jan 2000 11:47:48 -0500 I've been enjoying "The Disadvantages of You" by the Brass Ring - I guess = this would be filed under "60's lite/pop." This was a cover I couldn't = pass up: a long-haired blond in a wool checked skirt with knee high socks = on a wooden step ladder planting a kiss on a balding gent in a black suit. = It just screams, "Sixties Pop!" The arrangements aren't outstanding or anything, just a helluva lot of fun = to listen to. Wordless female "la la la," etc.=20 I recall a brief Brass Ring discussion before and was hoping for a recap?? = (And since you're all probably thinking I ought to look up the damn digest = - how do you access that??) - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Brass Ring...... Date: 05 Jan 2000 14:19:29 EST In a message dated 1/5/0 1:11:22 PM, nminer@jhmi.edu wrote: >I recall a brief Brass Ring discussion before and was hoping for a recap?? I have about 5 LP's of theirs (on Dunhill). Features Phil Bodner as leader and his arrangements are possibly the prototype for late 6T's instrumental Now Sound records at large (although I'm sure this is debatable)...Jimmy Botticelli/recommends all their LPs and IMHO Disadvantages LP is the weakest of the lot # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Brass Ring...... Date: 05 Jan 2000 14:27:33 -0500 Great! Let's talk Brass Ring. So, they have at least five LP's out - that was one question I had......and= if "Disadvantages" is their weakest then I've got something to look = forwards to......... But I see your point about it not being a "spectacular" record. First two = listens, my reaction way "Um, Okay." But further listens garnered a more = favorable reaction. The arrangements aren't anything "special" (by that I = actually have no idea what I mean, but maybe you do!!) but the sound is = definitely that vintage "now" sound that's so cool. Should I know who Phil Bodner is?? I mean, does he hold a spot in the = "scheme of things" (ala: Sergio Mendes (or is it Mendez?)) or is he = relatively obscure? Do tell! - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Nathan's question, more thoughts on the archives Date: 05 Jan 2000 15:45:55 -0500 >I recall a brief Brass Ring discussion before and >was hoping for a recap?? (And since you're all >probably thinking I ought to look up the damn digest >- how do you access that??) The sacred archives are in this temple: http://www.xmission.com/pub/lists/exotica/archive/ But as there is no search function, finding specific info is, er, inconvenient. Unless you can remember what month/year it was discussed. Another possibility, in this age of ever cheaper mass storage, would be to download all of the archives to your own local drive... then apply a search program at that level (I presume all OS's have search apps avaialable that will sniff through text files for you). But it would be handiest of all to be able to search the archives on the web, but I don't think we're going to get Xmission to restructure just for us. Someone would have to provide a server where the archives could be split back up into individual posts (smart people would be able to come up with a script to automate the task) and filed into some sort of database. Then put on a nifty front end ala IMDB or Slashdot. And no, I'm not volunteering... that sort of thing is way beyond me. It would be a job for the experts. Good luck to you Johan! That's a BIG job you're taking on. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: RE: (exotica) Bring Jack Back Date: 05 Jan 2000 15:05:36 -0500 OK. Will try once more, digesters. Jack Diamond, bring it on home...come back to eXotica, pal. I brought this up because I think this list NEEDS Jack's passion for music. You always know where Jack stands. And let's face it....sometimes eXotica is a tad sleepy. Wake us up! Plus now the heroic Johan has proposed the exotic-list-record-review db project, he'll need lots of distinctive colorful content...which Jack could surely to supply if he has a mind to do it. (BTW Johan, a fab and cockamammy idea. Luv ya for it!) Here goes Ron again... >Jack once commented that he though he was barred from the list - Is this th= e >case? If so, I can't imagine why. ... You know, it doesn't matter to me if or why Jack banned from the list. If he was asked to leave because he posted ads for the records he sells, then perhaps he could resist posting that stuff because some eXoticats think it's spam. But kick Jack off the list for that? When he also posted playlists and reviews of records--RECORDS--he doesn't sell? When he's a walking talking LP encyclopedia with a Hawaiian bark cloth cover? Seems like clearing out an ant hill with a bulldozer. Or mebbe he just removed himself. Boo Hoo! Jack, c'mon down and lend us your ears. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Palm Springs Holiday Date: 05 Jan 2000 13:08:52 -0800 (PST) I actually sent this link to good ole Lou Smith aka Dr Death once http://www.findagrave.com It allows all kinds of searches for graves, name, location etc. Easy listening in the Big easy Chuck --- jonathan richardson wrote: > > > > I found the headstone of none other than Hugo > >Mario Montenegro. > Nat Kone wrote > Didn't even know he was dead. > > I know that you aren't telling a story here of going to visit famous > musician graves but I wonder if anyone here has such stories. > > I actually think it's a kind of a strange thing to do. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cliché" Subject: (exotica) greetings Date: 05 Jan 2000 22:37:33 +0100 Greetings from Hungary. As I can see you work hard on this list. Good! Keep on. cliché new member PS: this is not the home of Plavci # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: (exotica) Bring back... Date: 05 Jan 2000 13:59:17 -0800 I forwarded one of the more recent messages to Jack - He was underwhelmed. Personally, there are a LOT of folks I'd like to see around more: Moritz, Cleve, Jessica Cameron, C. Kafka, Magnus.... Who am I forgetting?... Brad Bigelow. I know there are others. I'd like to be around more, but my records are still in cold storage since July, I have not been to NEARLY enough garage sales/thrift stores lately, and I think I may have temporarily lost that lovin' feeelin... (Whoa, THAT lovin' feelin') So much so, I did not even do an Xmas CD this year. Even having a turntable in the office has not broken the funk. Poor me. I think I'll fire up Ebay and tear the scab off my wounds. Ron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: if someone could comb through everything that everyone hassaid about various records Date: 05 Jan 2000 22:11:30 -0000 Johan Dada Vis wrote: > i _could_ need some help in writing a little javascript that would > anable visitors to click on a "add comment" button that takes them to a > form. i have no experience at all in javascript. Robbie? Let me know exactly what you want and I'd be glad to help. Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: Re: (exotica) Brass Ring...... Date: 05 Jan 2000 22:11:30 -0000 Nathan Miner wrote: > Should I know who Phil Bodner is?? I mean, does he hold a spot > in the "scheme of things" (ala: Sergio Mendes (or is it Mendez?)) > or is he relatively obscure? I've not actually heard any Brass Ring but Phil Bodner certainly isn't obscure - he was one of those Command alumni who played on virtually every Command and Project 3 record. You'll probably find his name in many other orchestras too, eg: Creed Taylor, Lalo Schifrin etc. I think he's still playing - he's certainly on the 1998 Enoch Light tribute album "Put Some Style In It". For more info, there's almost certainly a biography at Brad Bigelow's site: http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/ Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wayno Subject: (exotica) Worst news of 2000 (so far) Date: 05 Jan 2000 19:10:31 -0500 ******************************************* Hurley, O'Connor Join "Bedazzled" By Charles Lyons and Paul F. Duke HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Elizabeth Hurley and Frances O'Connor ("Mansfield Park") have signed to join Brendan Fraser in director Harold Ramis' remake of "Bedazzled." The project, which has been in development at Fox for more than two years, stepped onto the fast track when Fraser signed on in November. Shooting is set to begin Jan. 24. Inspired by the 1967 Dudley Moore Faustian comedy of the same name, the film revolves around a nerdy, low-level technical adviser (Fraser) who enlists the help of a powerful temptress (Hurley), to win the love of a female co-worker (O'Connor). The original film, directed by Stanley Donen and co-starring Moore and Peter Cook, centers on a short-order cook, who the devil saves from suicide and then tempts with an offer of seven wishes in exchange for his soul. Hurley's credits include both "Austin Powers" movies as well as "EdTV," "My Favorite Martian" and "Permanent Midnight." O'Connor starred in indie pics such as "Love and Other Catastrophies" and "Kiss or Kill." Ramis last directed the 1998 mob comedy "Analyze This." ******************************************* About the only good that might possibly come of this would be the re-release on video of the flawless original. Who would've guessed that the Y2K disaster everyone was waiting for would be directed by Harold Ramis? In a blue funk, Wayno # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Bring Jack Back Date: 05 Jan 2000 19:31:55 EST In a message dated 1/5/0 3:51:59 PM, mimim@texas.net wrote: >I brought this up because I think this list NEEDS Jack's passion for music. >You always know where Jack stands. And let's face it....sometimes eXotica >is a tad sleepy. A thought on that...Several people on the list that are committed to music are also into other forms of music. Early exoticats from the collecting days of the 8T's and earlier 9T's have told me they have saturated themselves with the music and while not tired of it, are pursuing other zounds more readily available. For example, a collector whose main exotic want is a rekkid s/he will bid on at E-Bay for perhaps $150.00 is also still interested in continually discovering music and must pursue within other genres and realms. Jack may/may not be there, but the dynamic exists. I find myself wandering into the instrumental funky/groove realm frequently these days because I find it so hard to find something exotic/now/etc. ...Jimmy Botticelli/Consumer-Collector # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring back... Date: 05 Jan 2000 19:38:51 EST In a message dated 1/5/0 5:00:42 PM, rgrandia@xtabay.com wrote: >I forwarded one of the more recent messages to Jack - He was underwhelmed. I'll say it. He's not God....Like me, he's a middle-aged man who's obsession with collecting has helped considerably to make him what he is. But he's NOT God and if he doesn't want the digest, let the fella go peacefully into the night..."night "night Jack, don't say you weren't invited back...Your pal, Jimmy Botticelli # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Gerwitz Subject: (exotica) You've heard the music, now see the movie? Date: 05 Jan 2000 17:20:40 -0800 After at least 6 months of pushbacks in release date, the DVD of "Vampyros Lesbos" came in today's mail (no pun intended). Sound is dolby digital mono(???), but i can't watch yet cuz my kid is here doing his homework. Damn!! I've seen the "Schulmadchen" series vids for sale on a cult movie website, but unfortunately lost the URL. While on the subject of eurorotic cinema, i'm really enjoying those two Dagored erotic soundtrack comps, especially "She Had a Taste for Music." Mood swings from fuzzy funk to what i'll call "Classy EZ" (as opposed to Cheezy EZ), and the gal vocals are bellissima!!! "Italian Girls Like Ear Catching Melodies" is growing on me too. I like these better than the Emmanuelle Negra comp, maybe because i had raised expectations for that one. JB Le Noir (1st song of 2000: Spoonful - Pigpen & the boys) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Worst news of 2000 (so far) Date: 05 Jan 2000 20:53:19 -0500 Wayno wrote: > HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Elizabeth Hurley and Frances O'Connor ("Mansfield > Park") have signed to join Brendan Fraser in director Harold Ramis' remake > of "Bedazzled." Oh, gross...the only thing worse than this was hearing that they are going to remake "Get Carter", with (now this is the really awful part) Sylvester Stallone in the role that Michael Caine had in the original. It's not like any of these remakes are doing well at the box office, are they? Why ruin a perfectly good movie? Sigh.... cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: (exotica) Goodbye Date: 05 Jan 2000 10:40:17 -0700 Fellow list members, This is just a short note to say I am planning to unsubscribe to the list. I have made MANY friends on this list over the past 4 years, and at times it has been a great joy to me, but I must say that over the years there have been fewer and fewer topics of interest to me. I hope that if there is anything on the list that makes any of you think of me, you might drop me a line or forward it on. Perhaps at some point I might resubscribe, but I just find I rarely read anything anymore.... So please keep in touch and keep sharing the music.... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Johnny Gregory - Avengers Date: 06 Jan 2000 19:37:12 +0000 In message , G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk writes >Happy New Year to you all. > >I was given 'The Avengers and other TV themes' by Johnny Gregory (Ewing >records - a Phillips cheapo label?) for my birthday (alas no record gifts >for Xmas). And its really rather good (apart from a terrible version of >'The roaring Twenties'). Fairly conventional big band arrangements, but it >swings, and I don't have any other versions of nearly every cut on it. I >imagine its English as the track mentioned in the title is English and it >has the Maigret theme, but the rest of the selection is decidedly American, >Perry Mason etc. > >I wondered if anyone knows anything about Johnny Gregory, is it the same as >John Gregory? You see his stuff around, but what I've heard I've been >decidedly underwhelmed by. Yes John Gregory is Johnny Gregory. I've got one of his LP's here on Philips called "The Detectives" & in the liner notes it mentions that he has also recorded as Johnny Gregory but that he has achieved most of his fame recording as "Chaquito" (doing Latin American Music) & also has recorded as "The Cascading Strings" + conducted BBC Orchestra's, London Symphony, Royal Philharmonic etc. "The Detectives" is actually quite good - fairly punchy stuff with a couple of really good tracks. (McCloud) Definitely superior to the Geoff Love Orchestra versions I have of similar songs. On the subject of xmas gifts I was given the "Mannix" soundtrack (L.Schifrin) and its really good. Cheers Mike Michael Davidson Auckland, New Zealand # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Brass Ring...... Date: 06 Jan 2000 03:22:54 -0500 At 02:27 PM 1/5/00 -0500, Nathan Miner wrote: > >Great! Let's talk Brass Ring. Yes let's. (Finally something I know something about) > >So, they have at least five LP's out - that was one question I had......and if "Disadvantages" is their weakest then I've got something to look forwards to. I have eight of their records. (That makes me the winner AND the loser.) I don't think I could name the strongest or the weakest of them. They're all pretty well the same, in that none of them are great all the way through, all of them have highlights and all of them are pretty good if you're not listening too hard. If I really had to choose the best one, I'd go with the one that's usually identified as the best one, which is the only one I know of that's on the Project 3 label. It's called "The Brass Ring featuring Phil Bodner". It has my favourite Brass Ring cut, their version of "Ain't no Sunshine". If I had to choose a second favourite, it would be "The Now Sound of the Brass Ring" but that's partly because I love it when records actually say "Now Sound". I also like it because it has a slightly higher number of classic 60's covers than most of them. Someone who is or was on this list - Brad or something - wrote an article in Cool and Strange Magazine and included the Brass Ring in a discussion of Tijuana Brass wannabe's. (Or Tijuanabe's). I don't know what they actually wanted to be but I don't put them in that category. Or at least, at their best, I don't put them in that category. They usually have a few cuts on each record with that sorta annoying bouncy beat that TJB is all about but like I said, at their best, they're not much like TJB. For me, they pretty well define the Now Sound. They're not that flashy and the arrangements are usually pretty conservative but really, that's what the Now Sound was. To me. If you like the tunes they're covering, you'll probably like their version. >Should I know who Phil Bodner is?? I mean, does he hold a spot in the "scheme of things" (ala: Sergio Mendes (or is it Mendez?)) or is he relatively obscure? Compared to Sergio he's obscure but if you buy lounge records and read the credits, he's an important figure. Important may be hyperbole but like Sonny Lester or Phil Kraus or Bobby Rosengarden, he's one of the "architects" of that sound. Somebody already mentioned his ubiquitous role on Command records. He's also the leader on the Living Jazz records. They're a lot like Brass Ring records except that occasionally they veer into slightly wilder, funkier territory. My favourite Living Jazz record is "Memphis Underground" featuring among other things, a pretty wild version of "Eleanor Rigby". That's all I know. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring back... Date: 06 Jan 2000 03:34:48 -0500 At 07:38 PM 1/5/00 EST, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > > >In a message dated 1/5/0 5:00:42 PM, rgrandia@xtabay.com wrote: > >>I forwarded one of the more recent messages to Jack - He was underwhelmed. > >I'll say it. He's not God....Like me, he's a middle-aged man who's obsession >with collecting has helped considerably to make him what he is. But he's NOT >God and if he doesn't want the digest, let the fella go peacefully into the >night..."night "night Jack, don't say you weren't invited back... With all due respect to my pals on the "bring him back" campaign, I have to agree with Jimmy here. It' strikes me as a bit unseemly or something to beg a guy to come back and share his passion, if that's what you call it. I miss some of the people who are gone or who are missing in action. I'm gonna miss Jill. I miss Moritz but I'm assuming he's coming back. I miss Ross. I miss Michelle and Kirsten. I miss a lot of people who are still here apparently but hardly post anymore. (And I'll miss each and every one of the rest of you when you decide we're not going to have you to push around anymore.) Also I have to say that as much as Jack made a contribution to the list, something tells me he might be uh... affected if he came back by popular demand. (Take me for example. If I'm this bothersome when I think that most people delete my posts before reading them, what would I be like if I found out I was the people's choice?) I also think it's a bit of an insult, particularly to some of the newer people, who weren't around when Jack was and who might feel like "What am I, chopped liver? Aren't I good enough?" We got Jane back. Be thankful for that. The glass may be half empty but it's not totally empty. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Bring Jack Back Date: 06 Jan 2000 03:47:00 -0500 At 07:31 PM 1/5/00 EST, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > > > Early exoticats from the collecting days >of the 8T's and earlier 9T's have told me they have saturated themselves with >the music and while not tired of it, are pursuing other zounds more readily >available. Yeah, my interest doesn't go back that far at all but I've felt saturated (and kinda tired of it) for a while now. (Actually I was going to post about this "true exotica" record I just found, "Music from the Land of the Rising Sun" but without Moritz around, what's the point?) But I sort of figured that those other tributaries were part of the conversation here anyway. On the other hand, I do listen to lots of stuff that I wouldn't mention here. Maybe we should make it clear to new members that, at the very least, the list covers most instrumental music, soundtracks, certain kinds of pop, certain kinds of crooners etc. I've privately recommended stuff to people on this list that didn't really fit the music we talk about here but sorta did. Stuff that someone who likes this stuff, might like, even though it's not really this stuff. Maybe we should experiment with opening out a bit. >. I find myself wandering >into the instrumental funky/groove realm frequently these days because I find >it so hard to find something exotic/now/etc. . Well I for one, find that totally relevant to the stuff we talk about. You'd mention a funky organ thing if it were on a Quincy Jones soundtrack or something. So what if it's not on a soundtrack? In fact, I'd say that it's that kind of stuff you're talking about that helped bring me to the stuff that we generally talk about here. So it's especially relevant for me. It's kinda silly that you can post about a Dick Hyman organ record but you don't want to mention Booker T. (Or Barry Goldberg for that matter.) I've got an idea. Let's talk about Fela. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: RE: (exotica) Johnny Gregory - Avengers Date: 06 Jan 2000 08:45:28 -0000 Thanks for that response Peter, an excellent source of information as usual. The LP is indeed the one with the great green skull cover, i didn't mention it, as I wasn't sure I was making it up. That its the pre-Laurie Johnson version of the Avengers theme explains the familiar/not familiar feel of it. I'd assumed it was a re-arrangement. I'll keep my eyes open for the Chaquito stuff, I'd assumed it was standard ballroom fare so not investigated it although you see quite a bit about. One of those lines drawn for no real reason apart from keeping you sane I suppose. Cheers El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) DC+101 strings Date: 06 Jan 2000 10:15:51 +0000 Isn't Astro Sounds from Beyond the Year 2000 a famous Psyche band in the studio for an exploitation LP? In fact, aren't a lot of records that we like on this list brought into being in the same way? Once a 'sound' becomes popular and a market is established, a load of studio musicians or a generic band is/are brought together to knock up a quick LP to cash in on the latest fad. Sometimes it works - Astro Sounds and sometimes it doesn't - Paddy Kingsland's Supercharged LP. There is a De Wolfe library LP called 'Electric Banana' or something (My memory is getting worse. Its either the CJD, the ME or the smoking catching up with me) and I think its by the Pretty Things, or some pop/psyche crossover band. Anyway, same story - a library music company wants a generic psyche pop LP so they hire a generic band that fits the bill and then the band becomes famous, the band's output becomes sought after and the record sours in value when people find out who it's by. Now who can fill in the name of the band that recorded Astro Sounds? I often wonder if any two 101 strings LPs were recorded by the same band? Didn't Les Baxter do a couple? And did someone mention Chaquito? Their Spies and Dolls soundtrack LP features that better than the original They Call me Mr Tibbs - its great! Charlie PS. Don't get started on old hardcore/rave records....... charles_moseley@mckinsey.com +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) First song of the millenium Date: 06 Jan 2000 03:12:57 PST Was Benny Golson Music to watch girls by from the Tune in Turn On Cd reissue latest score: music for moderns -Phil Moore, entire side A is an interesting cross between classical music and jazz, an emotional rollercoaster of a track, just like me :) Sounds like a soundtrack to a fifties B experimental movie, like say, Daughter of horror. Happy 00 everyone Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: (exotica) You Go-Go Girl Date: 06 Jan 2000 13:01:06 +0100 ...Sinatra's hard feline hauteur was engineered by a male svengali, Lee Hazelwood. Before she teamed up with him in the mid-'60s, her output was largely confined to the pining saccharine masochism of songs such as "Like I Do" and "Not Just Your Friend." It was Hazelwood who reinvented the Chairman's daughter as a contemptuous go-go ice queen stomping on the hearts of her chump lovers. Their most famous collaboration, of course, was "These Boots Are Made For Walking." But there was also Sinatra's first chart-cracking track, "So Long Babe" and the kiss-off song, "How Does That Grab You, Darlin'?," each included on the superb new compilation from Var=E9se Sarabande, "You Go-Go Girl!"=20 http://www.salon.com/ent/music/review/2000/01/06/sinatra/index.html First song in 2000: Debra from Beck's Midnite Vultures. Cheers, Ton *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jan Fornell Subject: Re: (exotica) Fela Date: 06 Jan 2000 21:00:39 +0900 Nat Kone wrote: > I've got an idea. Let's talk about Fela. An excellent idea! I've known about him for many years, but only recently bought my first Fela CD ("The Best Best of Fela Kuti, The Black President", playing in the background right now), which definetely knocks the socks of most everything else I've heard recently. Are there any Fela experts on the list? What would you recommend? By the way, in Japanese, "fela" is the standard abbreviation of "fellatio". I don't know if he knew, but he probably would have been pleased. Jan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Fela Date: 06 Jan 2000 09:06:15 -0500 >Are there any Fela experts on the list? What would you recommend? I am no expert, but I do rather enjoy the album that he cut with Ginger Baker, Fela & Ginger Baker -- Live!, which has been re-issued. www.dustygroove.com has it. I have the video for Army Arrangement, but I haven't heard the rest of the album. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Fela Date: 06 Jan 2000 06:59:22 -0800 (PST) Hi Brian I have lots of Fela. I really enjoyed all of his 70's early 80s work. Fela 69 always stood out. The cover is beautiful! Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- Brian Phillips wrote: > >Are there any Fela experts on the list? What would you recommend? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) You Go-Go Girl Date: 06 Jan 2000 07:07:13 -0800 (PST) On Go-Go Girl there appears to be one new song, never before released, Zodiac Blues. Is this song great and up to the wonderful high standards of Lee Hazelwood's writing style? Any thing else new or hard to find on this collection? Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck > --- Ton Rueckert wrote: > > ...Sinatra's hard feline hauteur was engineered by a male > > svengali, Lee Hazelwood. Before she teamed up with him in the > > mid-'60s, her output was largely confined to the pining saccharine > > masochism of songs such as "Like I Do" and "Not Just Your > > Friend." It was Hazelwood who reinvented the Chairman's > > daughter as a contemptuous go-go ice queen stomping on the __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Josh Renaud" Subject: (exotica) Newbie here... Date: 06 Jan 2000 10:06:49 -0500 Hey everybody, I really dig this list, but its pretty obvious to me that I'm new to most of the artists you guys talk about. Could you recommend a few albums (CD format would be nice, I dont have a record player) that would expand my Exotica horizons? I have a few Ultra-Lounge discs and I grew an intense interest in lounge and exotica culture. I know that must sound pretty lame to you veterans, but ya gotta start somewhere! Anyway, thanks in advance for any help... JOSH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) FELA Date: 06 Jan 2000 07:20:34 -0800 (PST) From what I gathered, Fela was partially inspired by James Brown's African tour. His music generally tended to long funky guitar horns wailing groove jams. His albums usually had one or 2 songs per side. Theres a reall funk groove throuhout and the music is hottest right at the moment the band comes back to the melody after the long jam. Fela was often in jail. This is about all I can remember right now about Fela. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- Nat Kone wrote:\ I've got an idea. Let's talk about Fela. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) FELA Date: 06 Jan 2000 10:34:04 -0500 These 2 sites provide tons of info (and more links) about Fela: http://elvispelvis.com/fela.htm http://biochem.chem.nagoya-u.ac.jp/~endo/EAFela.html Also, there are 2 swell live videos available: Fela in Concert (1981) [Paris 1981] Fela Live - Fela Anikulapo-Kuti & the Egypt 80 Band (1991) [England 1984] I'd think amazon.com or the like would still carry them. -Lou lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Walton" Subject: (exotica) Fela Date: 06 Jan 2000 10:50:38 EST DustyGroove is currently selling the Fela box sets (6 LPS each) for $39.99. They are in limited pressings. An absolute bargain. (no I'm not affiliated with them). Coffin For Head Of State is a classic, not available with the box sets, but has been reissued. Tony Allen's (Fela's drummer) albums have been reissued lately as well. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: (exotica) Esquivel First Date: 06 Jan 2000 10:56:51 -0500 I am about to (finally) buy my first Esquivel Cd rerelease, but with = all the conversation, can't decide which one to get. I like his = stereo-experimental stuff, the more rambunktious percussive instrumentals. Any words would = be helpful, I want to do this today.... =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,= =B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4 surfing the chaos, Charlieman cdr@brimstones.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lou Smith" Subject: (exotica) SITKOZ Date: 06 Jan 2000 11:15:27 -0500 Our Old Pal Irwin Chusid's first book, Songs in the Key of Z : The Curious Universe of Outsider Music, will be published in May. Amazon.com already has it listed, at: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1556523726/o/qid=947173960/sr=8-1/102-3440202-1912034 You can see the book's cover art at: http://incorrectmusic.com/about/images/irwin-book.jpg -Lou (shill) Smith # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) DC+101 strings Date: 06 Jan 2000 09:18:34 -0000 Charles, Hello stranger. No arguments on DC there, I still insist on buying 'em, but I think you're right on the decline. Also Intoxica is the same shop, but I don't think JSK had anything to do with it. I remember he was the house remixer for a while. URL for Intoxica http://www.demon.co.uk/intoxica/list.htm I beleive intoxica are the only people to sell Cool & Strange magazine in the UK. Also while you're there. I remember you making some sarcy comment when I reported getting a 101 Strings LP. Have you heard 'Astro Sounds...' I remember the title coming up many times on the list, so I bought it (vinyl boot oh yes, that same gold coloured label) expecting an orchestral space LP. far from it, Nice groovy backbeat, organ, full bass, organ. It would seem to be their equivalent of Les baxter's Hells Belles. I think you should check it out. Does anyone have any background on how Astro Sounds came to be? I suppose I should go to Brads site to see....... BTW on the VS rave tip we still occasionally spin Bizarre Inc's Playing with Knives and it TOTALLY ROCKS MY FUCKING WORLD (c) JD El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ Depth Charge's crowning glory are the first 3 singles. J Saul Kane, who is Depth Charge, I think owned Vinyl Solution which was the label responsible for a few classic rave records and which we loved back then. His shop was also called Vinyl Solution and was close to Intoxica (maybe Intoxica is the same shop) but is closed now. I personally think that JSK's Depth Charge moniker has been in steady decline for a while now but I would like to hear a bit more of his remix work. All this is from vague recollections so I reserve the right to be slightly wrong. Charlie charles_moseley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robbie Baldock Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel First Date: 06 Jan 2000 16:27:32 +0000 "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" wrote: > I am about to (finally) buy my first Esquivel Cd rerelease, but with all the > conversation, can't decide which one to get. I like his stereo-experimental > stuff, the more rambunktious percussive instrumentals. Any words would be > helpful, I want to do this today.... The best compilation I've heard is the "Space Age Bachelor Pad Music" CD on Bar None (the second one they put out "Music for a Sparkling Planet"(?) didn't grab me as much). As for whole album reissues, the "Infinity in Sound 1 & 2" twofer I got last week is very good and has a lot of tracks featured on the Bar None comps. Robbie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Needles, Cartridges & Nitty Gritty Date: 06 Jan 2000 10:49:22 -0500 Someone asked about a web source for styli and cartridges. Check out www.needledoctor.com. Ordered a replacement stylus for my aged Ortofon cartridge this summer--prompt service at standard prices and I loved how fine my vinyl sounded again. The Needle Doctor is not a discounter; they seem to sell at list. But you can't beat the selection of styli and cartridges. Also your local Radio Shack has an enormous guide to styli that might be a good place to start if you wanna know if a needle is available for older cartridge models. The latest Needle Doctor catalog offers Nitty Gritty record cleaning machines at $709 for a fully automatic MiniPro with oak cabinet to $229 for the seemingly fully manual 1.0 with black vinyl cabinet. Three questions: Can you Nitty Gritty users really hear the difference on records cleaned with an NG? I know Johan would say yeah. Anyone else? Is the fully manual NG 1.0 (manual application of fluid, manual brushing and rotating during vacuuming, waste fluid plug on bottom) such a hassle to use it would be worth my while to spend significantly more ($375) and go for the NG 1.5 with automatic scrubbing and a slide-out waste fluid tray? I'm thinking the higher quality of the auto scrub might be worth the extra bucks. And are these prices competitive? TIA for input, Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) You Go-Go Girl Date: 06 Jan 2000 10:49:20 -0500 Ton wrote: >...Sinatra's hard feline hauteur was engineered by a male >svengali, Lee Hazelwood... You know, I just wish I could get the Nancy Sinatra mystique. The video of Boots that's killer, no doubt about it. And she cut some great tunes with that wiley East Texan Hazelwood: Velvet Morning and Jackson the standout. But I can't get past the fact that she didn't inherit her daddy's pipes. (Will fess up that Frank doesn't send me either). This fact hit me when I picked up Nancy in London a while ago. Found this LP in a ratty Colorado thrift during a road trip and was so excited, it was one of the first records I played when I got home. Tell you what, Nancy in London went to Goodwill in Austin after one play. All I really recall from the record was how often she strained to hit the notes (and lodged lots of near misses). And a great cover shot of her in Mary Quant kit. =46or you eXoticats who love Nancy, do the triumphs of Boots and Velvet Morning or Jackson or even How Does That Grab You, Darlin'? compensate for the mediocrity of the bulk of her performances? Or is it Hazelwood's songwriting and arrangements you dig? Or am I just not getting the X factor that makes Nancy great? Don't mean to be provocative here...just really wanna know. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Fela Date: 06 Jan 2000 11:18:48 -0500 Hiya Jan, >>Are there any Fela experts on the list? What would you recommend? Not an expert. The one Fela lp I have is Teacher Don't Teach Me Nonsense and Look and Laugh (Mercury, 86). It's a club mix record with vocal and instrumental versions of both cuts, and ooee, it's brilliant! Love the tenor sax solos by Fela and Yinusa Akinibosun and the bari licks by Lekan Animashaun and how the slow groove builds and builds on minimum 13-minute tracks. Also Fela's voice just sends me--fab call and response stuff on the vocal arrangements. Real clean production by Wally Badarou & Herve Marignac. Anyone know anything about these geniuses? Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lou Smith" Subject: (exotica) Wu Name Date: 06 Jan 2000 12:42:01 -0500 Wanted a Wu-tang Clan identity. Went to: http://www.recordstore.com/wuname/ http://www.recordstore.com/cgi-bin/wuname/wuname.pl Response: Lou Smith! your Wu-Name is: Spunky Misunderstood Genius Use it wisely, soldier. -------------------- How did they know? -Lou 'SMG' Smith lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Esquivel First Date: 06 Jan 2000 12:50:36 -0500 > > If you were only going to buy one Esquivel, which is > impossile to think > about for me, I would get the comp,, "Music From A Sparkling > Planet" on Bar > None > > This release was a lightning bolt for the exotica movement > > Enjoy this listen, it will rearrange the structure of the > atoms in your > brain > Chuck I'm all for rearrangement, but are the tracks wacky?? The tunes seem like a few standard easy ones..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: you mad impetuous fool ;-) Date: 06 Jan 2000 14:27:08 +0100 i had to look up that "impetuous", didn't know what it meant... thanx for the compliment, Geoff :-) no, it didn't happen like you said. over the past years that i'm on this list, i have been saving comments for my own use, so that i knew what to buy and what to stay away from - as my memory is horribly bad. it's not that much work, just a matter of copy and paste after all, and with the help of a utility that zaps all the tabs and extra spaces and quotes and line feeds with one key stroke. the most work goes in cleaning up the database, as i never started this mad thing with the intent to use it on my web site. the rendering to web pages is done automatically, i only need to tweek the programming here and there... Johan ----- El Maestro Con Queso wrote: > >Johan, you mad impetuous fool! Did you awake one day and think, 'I just >have too much free time'? > >Good work and good luck. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Legendary Stardust Cowboy Date: 06 Jan 2000 15:03:48 +0100 The Legendary Stardust Cowboy, real name: Norman Carl Odam. This is what i have by this mad R&R man: * Paralyzed! mini LP, bootleg, 1980's Contains his classic "paralyzed" song, recorded somewhere in the 1960's, and featured on "Born bad" and - i bet - plenty of other novelty comps * Rock it to Stardom LP, Virgin/ Amazing Records AM-LSC999, 1984 Recorded in 1980 & 1981 - quite good, the best of his "second period" recordings * The Legendary Stardust Cowboy Rides Again LP, Spider/ New Rose 184, French issue, 1989 * Retro Rocket Back To Earth i don't have this anymore - was a cd from the early 1990's i THINK and not good at all. i think it also contained the full "Rides Again" Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Esquivel First Date: 06 Jan 2000 12:48:43 -0500 > The best compilation I've heard is the "Space Age Bachelor > Pad Music" CD > on Bar None (the second one they put out "Music for a Sparkling > Planet"(?) didn't grab me as much). Okay...I can dig that....I've listened to a few of them, its okay. > As for whole album reissues, the "Infinity in Sound 1 & 2" > twofer I got > last week is very good and has a lot of tracks featured on > the Bar None > comps. All the tunes on this 2fer look like slow boring songs....am I wrong? I cannot play real audio due to a firewall, so I can't listen to these....what about the "exploring new sounds in Stereo" comp? Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: Re: (exotica) FELA Date: 06 Jan 2000 19:21:13 +0100 >Fela Live - Fela Anikulapo-Kuti & the Egypt 80 Band (1991) [England 1984] Mixed in London, yes, but recorded live in Amsterdam, Novembre 28. 1983, three songs on two LP's. ...anybody wey give us shit, him go get his shit, anybody wey give us shit, we go give am shit like Abiola, him go get, him go get his shit ten pockets full of shit. We go give am shit, plenty, plenty shit, him go get his shit in that case, him go get. So therefore, in that case, I'm giving you serious warning, him go get his shit, anybody who give us shit, him go get his shit. And other jewels. Saw Fela's son Femi and his band during the local Summer Festival last year, steaming tropical heat on a soaking wet cold night. He sure is a worthy follower to the throne, go and see him when he's in your neighbourhood! Cheers, Ton *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) FELA Date: 06 Jan 2000 13:51:59 -0500 Ton Rueckert wrote: >>Fela Live - Fela Anikulapo-Kuti & the Egypt 80 Band (1991) [England 1984] >Mixed in London, yes, but recorded live in Amsterdam, Novembre 28. 1983, three songs on two LP's. I think the Fela Live video and LP are from 2 different shows. IIRC, the Fela Live video, released in 1991, is from Glastonberry '84. Lou aka SMG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring back... Date: 06 Jan 2000 13:49:23 -0500 Nat wrote: >I miss Ross. Hey--I didn't die or anything! But while I've been reading this thread, I have been thinking a little about why it is I don't write the kind of breathless, gushing posts about new finds that I did a couple years ago. At a point where you only have, like, a hundred exotica LPs, you are constantly coming across *whole new genres* you never even dreamed existed. So it's all very fresh and exciting, and all that excitement comes through when you write about it. But at this point, 800 LPs later, it's becoming more infrequent to find those mind-blowing, eye-opening new finds. I mostly bring home records that are slightly, but not thrillingly, different from things that I already own. So I feel like I'm in more of a "consolidation" phase now. I feel like I need to spend some serious time making hard choices about what to keep, reminding myself what I have, making notes to myself about what LPs I need to get cleaner copies of. . . then at some point I plan to burn some "Best Of" CD-Rs for myself. But this phase is sort of bureaucratic, and let's face it, not as much fun, as that first hurtling rush of early infatuation . . . So who wants to hear about that? So I wonder. . . maybe it's not a Jack Diamond we want to bring back the passion. . . maybe it's the NEXT demographic wave--people born around 1979--who are just discovering warped Disco, etc. for the first time. Or are we ready for that? Yours philosophically, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Les Maledictus Sound Date: 06 Jan 2000 14:06:37 -0500 Chuck wrote: > Les Maledictus Sound 1968 rerelesed in 1999 on Tir Groupe Disques > I find it quite difficult to describe the music on this album, from a 1968 > Canadian Band that was in the "Incredibly Strange Music Vol 2" I've solved the mystery on this particular item. The reissue is legitimate and indeed Canadian, however the band itself is from France. There is some connection to Canada through its original promotor. What you see in the package is the original cover art of the various releases as they originally appeared, all provided by a guy in Montreal who has them all. The comment I heard was that Jello Biafra probably bought his copy of the record originally from this guy! It's definitely out there and as unique as say Bruce Haack. It's readily available here in Montreal for about CDN$19.00. Got my copy today at Disquivel. Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin C." Subject: Re: (exotica) Newbie here... Date: 06 Jan 2000 11:14:38 -0800 Why don't you start by naming some of the artists (or specific UL albums, cause they vary in style) you really dig. That'll help. -Kevin Crossman Josh Renaud wrote: > Could you recommend a few albums > (CD format would be nice, I dont have a record player) that would expand my > Exotica horizons? I have a few Ultra-Lounge discs and I grew an intense > interest in lounge and exotica culture. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Fela Date: 06 Jan 2000 14:25:42 EST In a message dated 1/6/0 3:52:35 AM, bruno@yhammer.com wrote: >I've got an idea. Let's talk about Fela. I was thinking of asking about him. Dustygroove has a lot of LP's by him in several formats (Fela '70, Fela, etc.). I know next to nothing about him, make that NOTHING at all. Can anyone fill in the information gap?? Thanks, Jimmy Botticelli # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: Re: (exotica) FELA Date: 06 Jan 2000 21:34:01 +0100 >>>Fela Live - Fela Anikulapo-Kuti & the Egypt 80 Band (1991) [England 1984] > >>Mixed in London, yes, but recorded live in Amsterdam, Novembre 28. 1983, >three songs on two LP's. > >I think the Fela Live video and LP are from 2 different shows. >IIRC, the Fela Live video, released in 1991, is from Glastonberry '84. Indeed: 1991 Fela Anikulapo-Kuti and The Egypt 80 Fela Live (Video USA, Shanachie 101) Confusion Break Bones / Techer Don't Teach Me Nonsense --Recorded live at Glastonbury, England. >I was thinking of asking about him. Dustygroove has a lot of LP's by him in >several formats (Fela '70, Fela, etc.). I know next to nothing about him, >make that NOTHING at all. Can anyone fill in the information gap?? Have a look at http://www.allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=B52057 There's more than you want to know... Cheers, Ton *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Fela Date: 06 Jan 2000 15:36:35 -0500 >vocal arrangements. Real clean production by Wally Badarou & Herve >Marignac. Anyone know anything about these geniuses? No expert, but Badarou is a producer/musician that had a hit with "Chief Inspector". Musician Magazine reported that due to a fit of pique or ego on the Brown's part, Badarou didn't get a chance to release a James Brown album, which featured a song called "(I'm a) Rhythm Machine". If you ever see the video for "High Life" by Badarou, you're in for a treat; great song and great animation. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Fela Date: 06 Jan 2000 16:45:51 -0500 At 09:00 PM 1/6/00 +0900, Jan Fornell wrote: > >Nat Kone wrote: >> I've got an idea. Let's talk about Fela. > >An excellent idea! >Are there any Fela experts on the list? What would you recommend? > Okay, now I'll fess up. For years, all I did was buy Fela records and then trade them in after a while. I've found that among record collectors and just plain cutting edge, hip music afficianados and DJ's, Fela has been the most consistently, longlived "mark of cool" that I've ever come across. Knowing about Fela, having even one Fela LP... has marked a person for "cool credibility" more than any artist I can think of, longer than any artist I can think of. Especially given that he's not all that obscure. Compared to that band "ESG", I think they're called, possession of whose records also makes you the hippest cat on the block. But I've only seen their records once. Knowing that, it always made it hard for me to get rid of Fela LP's. But I kept doing it in order to prove to myself that I wouldn't keep an LP just because it was cool. But then the next week, someone who I probably wanted to impress, would ask me if I had any Fela and all I could say was "I used to". So I gave in to my own shallowness and now keep two Fela albums around. Not so much to impress my hip friends as to avoid the feeling I get when I remember the ultra-cool records I sold. The problem is that the records I have now are way more common and therefore way less cool than the ones I used to have. I used to have this one on an African label called "Expensive Shit" which had more naked women on the cover than three copies of that Hendrix record. Now all I have is the Ginger Baker LP and "Original Sufferhead" on (ugh) Arista. To me, every Fela tune is exactly the same. If you've heard one, you've heard them all. Instruments come in one at a time, slow buildup, he starts talking, maybe he shouts a bit and then it comes to a crashing crescendo. It sort of reminds me of this Barry White take-off I once saw where "Barry" keeps saying "It makes me so happy I almost feel like singing" but then he finds a reason to keep talking. I'm always glad to hear Fela in a bar or at a party. I do love that one song he keeps playing. Great rhythms and horn parts. And I'm sure he'd have been good live but the one time I had tickets to see him, he just didn't show. Anyway, that's my Fela story. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) You Go-Go Girl Date: 06 Jan 2000 16:45:54 -0500 At 10:49 AM 1/6/00 -0500, Mimi Mayer wrote: . > >You know, I just wish I could get the Nancy Sinatra mystique.. > >But I can't get past the fact that she didn't inherit her daddy's pipes. >For you eXoticats who love Nancy, do the triumphs of Boots and Velvet >Morning or Jackson or even How Does That Grab You, Darlin'? compensate for >the mediocrity of the bulk of her performances? Or is it Hazelwood's >songwriting and arrangements you dig? Or am I just not getting the X factor >that makes Nancy great? I don't LOVE Nancy so maybe I can't answer this. But clearly you have to get past the issue of her "pipes". I mean, I do LOVE Claudine Longet but she's no (fill in your own legitimate singer). And obviously Lee Hazelwood's tunes and production are a huge factor. (And by the way, I don't love his pipes either but I love his records.) And I like the Nancy and Lee records more than I like the Nancy records, even if Lee probably produced most of them. With Nancy, it's the Nancy thing. You ever heard "Last of the Secret Agents"? I have that on this Rhino "Best of" LP. It's just a great tune. I don't know if a great singer singer could have done it better. It's a great flat tune for a great flat singer. I guess I can't explain it. I think there's some "camp" involved but I have to watch it when I say that in case Moritz is lurking. (Or was that Magnus?) But you know, if you kind of like that Nancy kind of song but you need a better singer, I really like all the Bobbie Gentry LP's I've bought. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lou Smith" Subject: (exotica) inevitable or end-times? Date: 06 Jan 2000 16:47:35 -0500 I've stumbled across some pages devoted to, I guess, the first example of the overdue swing-hop hybrid. It's a CD called "Jimmy Luxury and the Tommy Rome Orchestra: A Night In The Arms Of". Is anyone familiar with JL or his CD? Any comments? Far as I can tell the guy does real Original Gangsta (as in, the Las Vegas kind) raps over samples of Lena Horne, Dean Martin, Blossom Dearie and the like. Joke or hoot -- you tell *me*! -Lou http://www.citypaper.net/articles/102199/mus.dq3.shtml http://www.jimmyluxury.com/ http://www.usmusicvault.com/jimmyluxury.html http://www.sfweekly.com/1999/050599/music2.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: (exotica) test - please ignore Date: 06 Jan 2000 14:32:14 -0800 You should have ignored this. Now don't you feel silly? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dymaxia@ripco.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Fela Date: 06 Jan 2000 16:57:02 -0600 Nat Kone wrote: > > At 09:00 PM 1/6/00 +0900, Jan Fornell wrote: > > > >Nat Kone wrote: > >> I've got an idea. Let's talk about Fela. > > > >An excellent idea! > >Are there any Fela experts on the list? What would you recommend? > > > > Okay, now I'll fess up. > For years, all I did was buy Fela records and then trade them in after a > while. > > I've found that among record collectors and just plain cutting edge, hip > music afficianados and DJ's, Fela has been the most consistently, longlived > "mark of cool" that I've ever come across. > Knowing about Fela, having even one Fela LP... has marked a person for > "cool credibility" more than any artist I can think of, longer than any > artist I can think of. > Especially given that he's not all that obscure. Compared to that band > "ESG", I think they're called, possession of whose records also makes you > the hippest cat on the block. But I've only seen their records once. Hahahaha! But ESG is available on CD now. -- Kerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dymaxia@ripco.com Subject: Re: (exotica) You Go-Go Girl Date: 06 Jan 2000 17:04:37 -0600 Nat Kone wrote: > > At 10:49 AM 1/6/00 -0500, Mimi Mayer wrote: > . > > > >You know, I just wish I could get the Nancy Sinatra mystique.. > > > >But I can't get past the fact that she didn't inherit her daddy's pipes. > > >For you eXoticats who love Nancy, do the triumphs of Boots and Velvet > >Morning or Jackson or even How Does That Grab You, Darlin'? compensate for > >the mediocrity of the bulk of her performances? Or is it Hazelwood's > >songwriting and arrangements you dig? Or am I just not getting the X factor > >that makes Nancy great? > > I don't LOVE Nancy so maybe I can't answer this. But clearly you have to > get past the issue of her "pipes". > I mean, I do LOVE Claudine Longet but she's no (fill in your own legitimate > singer). > > And obviously Lee Hazelwood's tunes and production are a huge factor. (And > by the way, I don't love his pipes either but I love his records.) > > And I like the Nancy and Lee records more than I like the Nancy records, > even if Lee probably produced most of them. > > With Nancy, it's the Nancy thing. You ever heard "Last of the Secret > Agents"? I have that on this Rhino "Best of" LP. It's just a great tune. > I don't know if a great singer singer could have done it better. It's a > great flat tune for a great flat singer. > I like Nancy's voice. No, I don't think she's a technically great singer, but to me, she has several different voices. I like her more vulnerable, airy side, actually. I *like* the "flatness" of her voice, too. As far as solo LP's, I'm really fond of "Boots", even the cover (non-Hazlewood) songs. I have a weakness, though, for any female singers from the sixties, so perhaps I'm far too biased to provide a fair assessment of her oeuvre. A lot of sixties "girl group"-type singers sounded really "natural" and conversational, as if they'd just walked in off the street. You don't hear that very often today -- instead, you get this highly mannered singing, like all of those "spiritual" Lilith Fair chicks. FWIW, I also dig Dino, Desi and Billy -- I *love* their wimpy interpretation of "Satisfaction", I think it's quite unintentionally subversive. -- Kerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dymaxia@ripco.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring back... Date: 06 Jan 2000 17:20:40 -0600 Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr wrote: > > At a point where you only have, like, a hundred exotica LPs, you are > constantly coming across *whole new genres* you never even dreamed > existed. So it's all very fresh and exciting, and all that excitement > comes through when you write about it. > > But at this point, 800 LPs later, it's becoming more infrequent to > find those mind-blowing, eye-opening new finds. I mostly bring home > records that are slightly, but not thrillingly, different from things > that I already own. I think, for me at least, it's that it is getting harder to make those great LP "scores". I started buying exotica in the late 80s when no one else was buying, and then after college, I moved to Nebraska, where there were shitloads of exotica / lounge / moog / weird LPs just waiting for me. Now I'm back in the big city, where they charge $2 for an 8-track tape. But I'll always love the music -- it's not a "fad" or a "craze" for me, no more than any other music I love, and I hate that people are treating it like that. So no, my interest hasn't waned at all -- in fact, I am now reading David Toop's _Exotica_. It's more that most of what I buy these days is on CD -- I'm getting tired of trying to track down those LPs. -- Kerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Comment Compilation Date: 06 Jan 2000 16:02:20 -0800 (PST) I for one have been dreaming about doing this for a LONG time now. Unfortunately, it's about fourth on a stack of projects I'd really like to undertake, all of which sits under the heavy weight of real-life, kids and so on. I would say, however, that if someone rigged a way to add albums and comments, I would be one of the first to hit the stacks and start copying comments from old digests into a database. Make that sucker searchable, by say, album, artist or commenter (it'd be nice to list all the things that a particular person had a comment on) and that'd be an unbelievably handy piece of net information. Combine that with a place to archive tracks, liner notes, players, image scans and what not and suddenly you see why I haven't started yet. :) Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bump Subject: (exotica) burning idea Date: 06 Jan 2000 19:12:12 -0500 "hipsters, flipsters and finger poppin daddies, knock me your lobes" i wonder if i can pull anyone away from the turn of the century missing you blues for a minute and propose a new use for snail mail? since lots of people on this list burn there own cds...(now me!) i was thinking a groovy thing to do would be to circulate a personal fave collection of tunes...it would be a great learning tool and a way of getting more cool tunes for your collection. (especially for you newbians!) not to mention, feeling a closer kinship to your fellow exoticats and kitties. i have not thought about the organization of such a thing(in fact it just popped into my head) but i could think about a bit deeper if anyone is interested. just a 21st century thought. you can hate it if you want... i just love the idea of great music constantly flowing in my life. bump # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Yost" Subject: (exotica) Re: Bring Jack Back Date: 06 Jan 2000 19:21:42 -0800 I have to say, I thought the bro' was far too abrasive. I miss the posts from Jessica in PA much more. Let get psychic in 2000 and have various list members 'channel' his spirit instead of having Jack actually come back. This seems much more fun: > BTW on the VS rave tip we still occasionally spin Bizarre Inc's Playing > with > Knives and it TOTALLY ROCKS MY FUCKING WORLD (c) JD > > El Maestro Con Queso -- Brad ______________________________________________________ ...The Sixth Sense is killing the record industry... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Yost" Subject: (exotica) First finds of 2000 Date: 06 Jan 2000 19:40:37 -0800 To address Nat's point about why people don't post so much about their "finds," in my case, it's usually because my finds seem relatively unremarkable compared to the super-rare, super-cool, or hard to find stuff that often gets discussed on the lists. Nevertheless, I've got some spare time so will mention a few things found at the flea market last weekend: 1. Lenny Dee - Down South. So *many* Lenny Dee LPs out there, and I didn't think I really needed another one, but this is the one with that perplexing cover shot of him on a motorboat with a little dog perched on the organ, while a blond woman water skis on one ski wearing a tutu or something. Solid but not stellar. All songs about the South make this a must have for people like Tiki Bob, Chuck from the Big Easy, Mimi, and even folks from Luhavulle like me. 2. Nancy Walker - I Hate Men (w/ Sid Bass & His orchestra). Living Stereo outing by a singer I'm not familiar with, bought for the cover/concept and Sid Bass connection. She supposedly was an actress who played a maid or secretary to Rock Hudson on whatever TV detective show he had (Rockford files?). The cover shows her torturing a male doll voodoo style with some very long pins piercing his torso. Also on the table top are other torture instruments such as a wine corkscrew (ouch), a vice, and one doll in a mini-noose. This is the yang to the yin of Peggy Lee's "I Like Men." Her singing is pretty off-key, BTW. 3. Steve & Eydie - We Got Us. Does anyone else have a certain weakness for these goody-twoshoes? There's something about them that I find appealing, at the same time as I'm gagging on the sugary sentiments. I had to toss one of their albums that was part of the Wall to Wall Stereo Series, but this one is perkier (arranged & produced by Don Costa, which helps). If there was some nasty real-life scandal involving these two, someone please tell me! This one is for certain moods only. Is there a modern day equivalent to this relentlessly upbeat, drenched-in-love music? -- Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Fela Date: 06 Jan 2000 20:26:57 -0500 >I am no expert, but I do rather enjoy the album that he cut with Ginger >Baker, Fela & Ginger Baker -- Live! Oo yeah! I have that. Back in the late 70s, I read a little piece about Fela in Downbeat, and soon afterwards stumbled on it in a cutout bin. It was the funkiest slab of vinyl I'd heard up to that point in my life. Still ranks mighty high. Fela also made a cameo appearance in a National Geographic story on Nigeria somewhere around the late 70s or early 80s. Now that's an item for the serious collectors to ferret out. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Comment Compilation Date: 06 Jan 2000 20:51:40 -0500 >I would say, however, that if someone rigged a way to >add albums and comments, I would be one of the first >to hit the stacks and start copying comments from old >digests into a database. > >Make that sucker searchable, by say, album, artist or >commenter (it'd be nice to list all the things that a >particular person had a comment on) and that'd be an >unbelievably handy piece of net information. Here's a site that's sort of like that: http://www.everything2.com/ Maybe we could just move in there. Think they'd mind? Actually, on the other hand of all this, sometimes I think that the functional obscurity of the current archive is kind of nice. With some slick-o setup, someone could run a query on m.ace and instantly get every cockamamie thing I've ever posted on here. Difficulty does have its charms. The classiest idea is still the one someone mentioned years ago... a encyclopedia-like set of leather bound, gilt edged, coffee table volumes for perusal on those winter nights by the fire. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring back... Date: 04 Jan 2000 21:06:32 -0500 At 01:49 PM 1/6/00 -0500, Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr wrote: > >Hey--I didn't die or anything! >But while I've been reading this thread, I have been thinking a >little about why it is I don't write the kind of breathless, gushing >posts about new finds that I did a couple years ago. Yeah right. You may not be dead but when you stopped gushing, you died for me baby. > >At a point where you only have, like, a hundred exotica LPs, you are >constantly coming across *whole new genres* you never even dreamed >existed.> >But at this point, 800 LPs later, I mostly bring home >records that are slightly, but not thrillingly, different from things >that I already own. I can totally relate to all this, plus the desire to consolidate and the idea of someday burning best-of CDR's. I love the object and I'd have to keep some records just for being lovely objects but if I had a reasonable amount of objects, I could be happy. Even happier. I wish I just wanted it all. Then I wouldn't have to worry about splitting hairs so much. But I don't want it all and I don't have the space. It's also about the fact that I enjoy looking for records and discovering them more than I like owning them. But I'm sure you've picked up the odd better-than-average thing. Share. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thinkmatic@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Brass Ring Date: 06 Jan 2000 21:55:34 EST All this discussion made me dig out the 2 Brass Ring Albums that I own. The album titled, "Laura's Theme" has 5-6 great tunes on it and "Sunday Night At The Movies, Great Themes From Movies Currently On Television", which is an impressive title for an album, has another 5-6 pretty slick cut's. About 9 months ago I created a 9 minute long remixed using only samples from "The Disadvantages of You". I love the original it's one of my all time favorite tunes. Hacking it up was more a crime of passion then anything else. It was just great fun to listen to it over and over as I remixed. Anyway, who has a full list of all Brass Ring albums? I'd love to hear them all. The two I mentioned above are the only albums of their's that I've heard. "The Disadvantages of You" I just have the single song, not the album. If anyone would be into burning some Brass Ring CDs or loaning me the vinyl for a week so I can burn CDs from it, I'd make it worth their while. As always once I get copies, I'll be happy to share them with anyone who gives a damn. -Roy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) SITKOZ Date: 06 Jan 2000 19:04:54 -0800 At 11:15 AM 06-01-00 -0500, Lou wrote: >Our Old Pal Irwin Chusid's first book, Songs in the Key of Z >You can see the book's cover art Cool! The cover art almost looks like Michelle. Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) First finds of 2000 Date: 06 Jan 2000 19:14:22 -0800 At 07:40 PM 06-01-00 -0800, Brad Yost wrote: >2. Nancy Walker - I Hate Men (w/ Sid Bass & His orchestra). Living >Stereo outing by a singer I'm not familiar with, bought for the >cover/concept and Sid Bass connection. Who, Rhoda Morgenstern's mother? I also have this album. I think it is great. The combination works out well. Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thinkmatic@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Will Basic Hip burn in hell for ever? Date: 06 Jan 2000 22:27:38 EST Now that Christmas is over I feel like it's safe to discuss BasicHip=92s lat= est=20 release, without getting squished like a fly by the hand of God Almighty. =20 Christianity has had it=92s share of bad press. The Crusades were nasty and= =20 The Spanish Inquisition was just a big mess. Now that Basic Hip and Will at= =20 Show And Tell Records have resurrected two albums from "The Word" record=20 label, those past events will pale by comparison. =20 The Game of Life is narrated by Jarrell McCracken the Texas sportscaster who= =20 founded "The Word" label. I occasionally see some of their records in bins,= =20 but have yet to buy any, mostly because they=92re not as wild as the two on=20 this CD. Anyway, the recording is an imaginary football game between =93The= =20 Forces of Evil=94 and =93Christianity=94, with Jesus as the coach. The star= player=20 on the Christian team is named, =93Average Christian=94, with other players=20= on=20 his team having names like "Prayer", "Faithfulness", "Bible Study", and=20 "Church Attendance". The =93Evil=94 team is coached by Satan, some of the=20 players are named "Indifference", "Criticism" with my favorite player being=20 named, "Slanderous Talk".=20 "Go Slanderous Talk, Siss-boom-bah!!" =20 The album plays out like a real radio sportscast. Towards the end, the game= =20 is close, but in the last few seconds Christianity sends in The Holy Ghost=20 who cleans up and wins it all. =20 "Holy Ghost, he=92s our Man (actually spiritual entity but it doesn't rhyme=20 with can) if he can=92t go it no one can. Rah, Rah, Rah, !!!"=20 In summation, the album is quite funny, and delivers well on a =93Slap in th= e=20 face=94 camp level. =20 The second album on the CD, =93Flight F-I-N-A-L is another thing altogether.= =20 This record actually made me physically uncomfortable while listening to it.= =20 It=92s the audio equivalent of seeing a bit too much of an auto accident, wh= en=20 you=92re curious to see what=92s going on, but then you realized you=92re=20 witnessing a hideous atrocity that=92s now burned into your memory forever. Question # 52: Is there a sect of Texas =93Born Again Christians=94 that practice ritual us= e of=20 Peyote? There must be, because it=92s the only logical answer as to why thi= s=20 recording exists. =20 This record is a dramatic enactment of what it might be like if the process=20 of going to heaven were like a trip on a supersonic jet. It starts in the=20 Terminal of Life and it=92s narrated by your typical, ultra-white sounding m= ale=20 voice. My feeling of sickness began as the passengers board the plane and th= e=20 narrator casually mentions that the =93ticket are stamped with the blood of=20 Christ=94. Jesus is the plane=92s captain and even gets on the P.A. system=20= and=20 tells the passengers what the weather is like in heaven. I=92m not sure exactly how to say it, but the creators of these albums were=20 devoutly religious individuals, with a deep sense of spiritual connectedness= =20 and a true loyalty to their higher power. Their enthusiasm is so pure that=20 it can only be described from my anthropological perspective as nothing less= =20 then.......FUCKING NUTS. Whoever thought that these albums would be a=20 positive credit to the Christian faith should have been taken outback and=20 nailed up to something.=20 In any case, the CD should make a great baptism, Easter or first holy=20 communion present for anyone short on gift ideas.=20 Amen,=20 -Roy G. Biv Show and Tell Records can be reached at www.showandtellrecords.com, if you=20 dare!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lou Smith" Subject: (exotica) Esquivel First Date: 06 Jan 2000 13:11:41 -0500 > If you were only going to buy one Esquivel, which is > impossile to think > about for me, I would get the comp,, "Music From A Sparkling > Planet" on Bar > None > Chuck I'm all for rearrangement, but are the tracks wacky?? The tunes seem like a few standard easy ones..... You can listen to 30 second samples from MFASP at amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000048E7/qid=947181532/sr=1-10/102-3440202-1912034 You can also listen to samples at cdnow.com: http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=2104407817/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/album.html/ArtistID=ESQUIVEL/itemid=345170 -Lou aka SMG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) The Dennies! Date: 06 Jan 2000 21:33:00 -0800 (PST) OK, I hope you all have been thinking about these as I think this could be really cool. Here are the categories so far, and remember, these are all for stuff that was released in 1999. (Descriptions follow): Best act (artist or group) Best new album (not re-release; not compilation; not soundtrack) Best re-release (legitimate or bootleg) Best retrospective - single artist/act Best compilation - various artists Best box set - single or multiple artists Best soundtrack (new or re-release) Best new act (artist or group) Big Kahuna Achievement Award Golden Album Award THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING: You gotta include more than one nomination per category. I can't stress how important this is. Otherwise, we end up with maybe twenty different items, all with one nomination, and that's not enough to get a decent sampling to determine the actual top nominees. So, please, rack your brain and mail me as many entrees and nominations as you can. The more we get, the better the lists will be. AND, if you can't remember what was released in 1999, for heaven's sake, check out this amazing web-resource, curated by our very own Johann, Dada's Exotiquarium: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/ (Direct Links: albums: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/disq/y/99a.htm soundtracks: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/disq/y/99s.htm comps: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/disq/y/99c.htm If you can only think of one entry, I'd still like to hear from you, but please try and submit at least a few per category. --- Descriptions of the Categories --- Best act (artist or group): Any artist or group that released an album in 1999. This is only for acts that released new albums in 1999, not re-releases. For example, Esquivel and Astroslut both released new albums in 1999 (See It in Sound was never issued before!) and are valid, whereas Air produced a re-release of a previous EP and are not. Best new album: Any new album released in 1999. See above for examples of valid and invalid items. It cannot be a re-release, a compilation or a soundtrack, as these have their own categories. Best re-release (legitimate or bootleg): Any album released prior to 1999 that was subsequently re-released during 1999. Air's Premier Symptomes would be valid, as would the Shagg's Philosophy of the World. In addition, this category covers two-fer re-releases, like Three Suns' "Midnight for Two/Soft and Sweet". Bonus tracks are okay. If a re-release includes them, it does not turn into a compilation or retrospective. Best retrospective - single artist/act This is a retrospective of a single artist or act. This is for single (or possibly double) discs only. Multiple CD retrospectives belong in the Box Set category. Examples from 1999 would be the Preston Epps, Mongo Santamaria and Sam Butera comps, but not the Burt Bacharach comp as it is a box set. This category also do not include two-fer releases as these are considered re-releases. Best compilation - various artists This is a compilation of various artists on a single CD (or possibly a double CD). Multiple CD compilations are classified as box sets. Examples from 1999 are Stroboscopica 2, Pop Romantique and the Tiki Sampler from Ultra Lounge. Best box set - single or multiple artists A multiple CD set, likely released in a box (hence the name), with a nice book, swell packaging and the like. Box sets can represent sets of entire albums or a cross-section of songs, from any period. Examples from 1999 would be the Burt Bacharach set, the Samuel Hoffman set and the Wendy Carlos set. Best soundtrack (new or re-release) Any new soundtrack released, or old soundtrack re-released in 1999. Legitimate and bootleg releases are both considered. Examples for 1999 would be Iron Giant, Hell's Belles, Mannix, Breakfast of Champions and La Ragazza Dalla Pelle Di Luna. Best new act (artist or group) This is an act that released its first big album in 1999. Previous singles and homemade tapes can be overlooked. Examples from 1999 might be Astroslut and Seks BOMBA. Big Kahuna Achievement Award This is the opportunity to give an award to a major contributor to our love of Exotica music. This can be anyone related to exotica, for any reason. Golden Album Award This is the opportunity to single out an amazing album that helped influence our musical tastes. This can be any exotica-related album, for any reason. Also, feel free to come up with a better name for this Award. For both of these, anecdotes or stories would be nice. For all categories, the nominations should be exotica related. And send all responses to me. That's a huge message, but I think this could really work with y'all participation. Here's your chance to really sound out and let people know what you really thought was the best stuff last year. Let me hear from you! Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: Re: (exotica) Goodbye Date: 06 Jan 2000 23:42:32 -0800 I was just noticing an up-trend in postings - interesting postings - and have been feeling generally very postive about the list where recently I had not. Now this. Come back soon, Jill. I just hope it was not the threat of Jack Diamond's return that pushed you over the line. (evil grin) Ron >Fellow list members, > >This is just a short note to say I am planning to unsubscribe to the list. I >have made MANY friends on this list over the past 4 years, and at times it >has been a great joy to me, but I must say that over the years there have >been fewer and fewer topics of interest to me. I hope that if there is >anything on the list that makes any of you think of me, you might drop me a >line or forward it on. Perhaps at some point I might resubscribe, but I just >find I rarely read anything anymore.... > >So please keep in touch and keep sharing the music.... > >Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Wasiel" Subject: (exotica) Rod McKuen - Oliver Twist Date: 06 Jan 2000 23:36:48 -0800 Hi everyone, Collectors Choice music is releasing Rod McKuen's Oliver Twist on CD Feb 8. Has anybody heard this album? They say this is his "rockin' side" and is all twist music (no poetry) produced by Don Costa from the early 60s. Just curious if it's worth it. Some of Rod's poetry stuff with the music is hilarious. Thanks, Mark For this and other newmusic release info...go to... http://www.newmusicmachine.com home of the newmusic calendar & the pizzicato five discography # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: Re: (exotica) Esquivel First Date: 06 Jan 2000 23:50:21 -0800 >I'm all for rearrangement, but are the tracks wacky?? The tunes seem >like a >few standard easy ones..... Nobody, and I mean NOBODY can beat the pants off of a "Standard Easy One" like Juan Garcia. (whoops, I'm channeling) If you want wacky, Space Age Bachelor is a fine choice - DAMNED FINE choice. A quote from SABPM: "WoooWEE, BayBEE - You REALLY bLoW MY MiNd!!!!..." One day, you'll understand... (chanelling again) Ron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: Re: (exotica) burning idea Date: 06 Jan 2000 23:28:18 -0800 Think onit!!!! P'raps a compilation disk could be made that is sent to another lister with the promise that the receiving lister forward it on to another lister within (arbitrary number goes here) days of having received it. A gift that keeps on giving. And as an aside, Lord Buckley has been rattlin' through my brain for the past few days, so your opening quote got my attention. At the stangest times, I hear him bellow "DIIIIGGGG IIINNNFINIIIIITYYYYY!!!!!.... And they DUG IT!!!!!!" Ron >"hipsters, flipsters and finger poppin daddies, knock me your lobes" > >since lots of people on this list burn there own cds...(now me!) >i was thinking a groovy thing to do would be to circulate a personal fave >collection of tuneskitties. > >i have not thought about the organization of such a thing(in fact it just >popped into my head) but i could think about a bit deeper if anyone is >interested. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) The Ledgendary Stardust Cowboy Date: 07 Jan 2000 04:12:13 EST The Lege has a long and varied history of doing wild and wacky live shows One of which was televised in the UK and seen by David Bowie who adopted the Stardust moniker for his next incarnation The Lege still plays shows occasionally and may appear at the next Las Vegas Grind in June but don't quote me on that His last shows were in Cleveland and San Francisco backed by locals Frank Novicki and Klaus Flouride # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Clark" Subject: (exotica) Astro Sounds Date: 07 Jan 2000 09:17:39 -0000 Charlie said: "Isn't Astro Sounds from Beyond the Year 2000 a famous Psyche band in the studio for an exploitation LP? In fact, aren't a lot of records that we like on this list brought into being in the same way? Once a 'sound' becomes popular and a market is established, a load of studio musicians or a generic band is/are brought together to knock up a quick LP to cash in on the latest fad. Sometimes it works - Astro Sounds and sometimes it doesn't - - Paddy Kingsland's Supercharged LP." Astro Sounds is AFAIK just session musos rather than anyone famous, but it is certainly a classic "psychplotiation" album (a favorite genre of mine). It contains some tracks which were also released as "The Animated Egg", among other titles, but without the string overdubs and the grooooovy phasing. This was standard practice with many "cash-in" releases, especially on the Alshire label. There was a thread about this on exotica about four years ago which detailed the exact crossovers. Charlie then said: "There is a De Wolfe library LP called 'Electric Banana' or something (My memory is getting worse. Its either the CJD, the ME or the smoking catching up with me) and I think its by the Pretty Things, or some pop/psyche crossover band" This is the Pretty Things in 68 or 69. There are three volumes. Hope this helps. groovily phil dilemma # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: FW: Re: (exotica) Fela Date: 07 Jan 2000 10:13:30 -0000 > Nat, > > The easy way to do it, I have Sorrow tears and blood on 7". Its great, > its knackered, it does the whole business in about 5 minutes and it > doesn't take much space, and it has the 'yeah, I got it new but wore it > out playing it at parties' cachet. I got to agree on the one groove > thing. > > Cynically > El Maestro Con Queso > > djcheesemaster@yahoo.com > grr@brighton.ac.uk > http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm > http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > > > From: Nat Kone > Subject: Re: (exotica) Fela > > > So I gave in to my own shallowness and now keep two Fela albums around. > Not so much to impress my hip friends as to avoid the feeling I get when I > remember the ultra-cool records I sold. > > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: (exotica) Today on Salon: the soul father Date: 07 Jan 2000 11:45:06 +0100 The obituaries called Curtis Mayfield a major influence on hip-hop. Too bad his followers didn't learn a thing. Mayfield, who infused his music with calls for community, respect, self-determination and hope, no doubt would have been heartbroken to think he had a hand in inspiring a generation of young stars who broadcast to America a picture of black culture focused on guns, drugs and whores. http://www.salon.com/ent/music/feature/2000/01/07/mayfield/index.html A brilliant songwriter, vocalist, instrumentalist, producer and arranger, he had the aphoristic grace of a natural poet who was steeped in the rhetoric of the black church. Those records (early-and mid-'70s solo albums) were trailblazers of what might be called black psychedelia. Take a listen, for instance, to "Superfly": The lyrical string and horn arrangements that made the Impressions records such sweet listening are gloriously, woozily bloated into shapes amorphous and trippy; the bass is dark and wet, and Mayfield piles on layers of Latin percussion, boosted in the mix and swirling atop his multi-tracked rhythm guitar. Together it sounds unmistakably like the prototype for the funk and disco that would rule the airwaves later that decade, and which, through the alchemy of sampling, haunt the hip-hop and techno tracks of contemporary clubland. http://www.salon.com/people/obit/2000/01/07/aprcurtis/index.html *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: Re: (exotica) Astro Sounds Date: 07 Jan 2000 10:51:35 GMT > From: "Phil Clark" > > Charlie then said: > > "There is a De Wolfe library LP called 'Electric Banana' or something (My > memory is getting worse. Its either the CJD, the ME or the smoking catching > up with me) and I think its by the Pretty Things, or some pop/psyche > crossover band" > > This is the Pretty Things in 68 or 69. There are three volumes. > > Hope this helps. > And several Electric Banana tracks were featured in a Norman Wisdom film called, um, something like "Sauce For The Goose". Um. You may now shiver. Say, did he become Sir Norman? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) Re: Brass Ring Date: 07 Jan 2000 06:36:57 Roy wrote: >Anyway, who has a full list of all Brass Ring albums? I'd love to hear them >all. Here you go, Roy: The Flight of the Phoenix, Dunhill 50008 Lara's Theme, Dunhill 50012 The Disadvantages of You, Dunhill 50017 The Now Sound, Dunhill DS 50023 Gazpacho, Dunhill DS 50034 Only Love, Dunhill DS 50044 The Best of the Brass Ring, Dunhill 50051 20 Golden Hits of the 60's, Dunhill DSX50153-2 The Brass Ring Featuring Phil Bodner, Project 3 PR5067SD The Evolution of the Brass Ring, ITCO ILS10002 Of these, I recommend the first, for its cover (photo of blonde in bed--shoulders and up--with an ashtray beside her, and above the photo, the quintessential SABP line, "Was it him ... or his music?"), and for the world's only swingin' cover of "Lara's Theme" from "Dr. Zhivago." For more on Phil Bodner, the mastermind behind the Brass Ring, check out his bio on the Space Age Pop site: http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/bodner.htm Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) New on the Space Age Pop Page Date: 07 Jan 2000 07:03:44 Just added: --New biography pages on Chaino and veteran studio guitarist Tommy Tedesco --New Listener's Guide to "Overseas Ventures: Great Guitar Groups from Europe and Japan," including the Spotnicks, the Sounds, the Jokers, and other great guitar combos from outside the U.S. http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/whatsnew.htm Enjoy! Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wayno" Subject: (exotica) McKuen's Twist & "Bring Back [your name here]" Date: 07 Jan 2000 05:06:55 -0800 I haven't heard McKuen's "Oliver Twist" LP, but I do have the 45, which is rather funny. One of those things that might be a self-aware joke, or could simply be a cynical attempt to cash in on a fad. On the single, McKuen's "singing" sounds like a cross between Tony Clifton and SCTV's Edith Prickly. A whole album would probably be hard to take. The recent spate of pleas to "bring back" Jack Diamond, or anyone else who's not currently posting are becoming tiresome. It's not as if anyone was forcibly removed against their will! Who, exactly, is supposed to "bring" these people back? If you want someone to post to the list, write to your intended contributor, don't ask everyone else to "bring them back." Wayno Now playing: Herbie Hancock's "Fat Albert Rotunda" ---------------- Sent from a WebBox - http://www.webbox.com FREE Web based Email, Files, Bookmarks, Calendar, People and Great Ways to Share them with Others! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: Re: (exotica) Comment Compilation Date: 07 Jan 2000 13:38:25 -0000 This I like. In a sort of Huysman's 'Pass me that bottle of Absinthe' way. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The classiest idea is still the one someone mentioned years ago... a encyclopedia-like set of leather bound, gilt edged, coffee table volumes for perusal on those winter nights by the fire. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) burning idea Date: 07 Jan 2000 08:42:50 -0500 Hey!!! You biased people......! Not everybody has a CD burner, could we include cassette versions of any = future "Exotica Best Of" tapes we decide to circulate?? I think that's a great idea too! There's sooooo much stuff out there that = I know I'll NEVER hear, but always read about on this list.....It would be = fab to hear a lot of what's discussed on the list. Hey! We could even do = a comp. tape based on say, the previous 3 weeks topics of conversation - a = read, listen, learn type of deal. - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Tons of Information! Date: 07 Jan 2000 08:57:04 -0500 Whoa! Just wanted to extend a hearty "THANKS!" to every body who jumped on the = "Bodner Bandwagon" and supplied all of that great information....... I've printed out everything about Bodner and will try to smush it all = together into an article for the Exotica site.............sound like a = good idea?? Bad idea?? Don't bother?............ - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Audio Learning Laboratory.... Date: 07 Jan 2000 09:13:40 -0500 I'm excited about this.....I can even make it easy on everybody....... All you have to do is record one or two songs and send them to me and I'll = put them all together on a 90min. comp tape for everbody..... Okay? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Josh Renaud" Subject: Re: (exotica) Comment Compilation Date: 07 Jan 2000 09:26:23 -0500 I'm an internet programmer and I would love to do something like this, if someone else were to cover hosting costs. It sounds like a relatively simple project so it wouldnt take very long to do. JOSH | I for one have been dreaming about doing this for a | LONG time now. Unfortunately, it's about fourth on a | stack of projects I'd really like to undertake, all of | which sits under the heavy weight of real-life, kids | and so on. | | I would say, however, that if someone rigged a way to | add albums and comments, I would be one of the first | to hit the stacks and start copying comments from old | digests into a database. | | Make that sucker searchable, by say, album, artist or | commenter (it'd be nice to list all the things that a | particular person had a comment on) and that'd be an | unbelievably handy piece of net information. | | Combine that with a place to archive tracks, liner | notes, players, image scans and what not and suddenly | you see why I haven't started yet. :) | | | Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Josh Renaud" Subject: Re: (exotica) burning idea Date: 07 Jan 2000 09:27:31 -0500 | since lots of people on this list burn there own cds...(now me!) | i was thinking a groovy thing to do would be to circulate a personal fave | collection of tunes...it would be a great learning tool and a way of | getting more cool tunes for your collection. (especially for you newbians!) | not to mention, feeling a closer kinship to your fellow exoticats and kitties. I'm game! JOSH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: (exotica) Lord Buckley Date: 07 Jan 2000 09:36:25 -0500 FYI, a huge, fantastic, superbly documented biography of Lord Buckley will be published, probably this year. It is astonishing. That is all. just coming out of my "miser's coma," ck -- Citizen Kafka, Producer, "The Secret Museum of the Air" NEW!: every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM & WXHD (Hudson Valley) 90.1 FM http://www.megasaver.com/page2/smradio.html http://wfmu.org/ then go to 'listen to wfmu' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thinkmatic@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Brass Ring Date: 07 Jan 2000 09:35:43 EST In a message dated 01/07/2000 7:33:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, spaceagepop@earthlink.net writes: << Here you go, Roy: The Flight of the Phoenix, Dunhill 50008 Lara's Theme, Dunhill 50012 The Disadvantages of You, Dunhill 50017 The Now Sound, Dunhill DS 50023 Gazpacho, Dunhill DS 50034 Only Love, Dunhill DS 50044 The Best of the Brass Ring, Dunhill 50051 20 Golden Hits of the 60's, Dunhill DSX50153-2 The Brass Ring Featuring Phil Bodner, Project 3 PR5067SD The Evolution of the Brass Ring, ITCO ILS10002 >> Thanks Brad, Your list is missing their third album, "Sunday Night At The Movies" Dunhill 50015. Which isn't great, but it does have a decent version of "True Love" from High Society, the coolest version of "Colonel Bogey March" you're probably going to find anywhere (but that's not saying much) and a great version of "The Theme from Hud" As for the swinging version of Lara's Theme, you're absolute right, I've got that and it's very nice. Also Mr. Brodner's bio is great as are all the bios on your site. When are you going to publish a book? I need something that I can read in the tub. The ink on all the pages that I've printed off your web site keep running when the bubbles from my bath hit them. Later, Roy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: (exotica) Today on Salon... the soul father Date: 07 Jan 2000 09:39:46 -0500 A bit simplistic, but very well put. It bugs the shit out of me to have seen the pop music scene do an absolute 180; from treacly preachments of peace and love to a 'reflection of the true feelings of the kids of our time'... pain, anger, hostility, anti-authoritarianism, misogyny, racism. Strange how i remember some of those feelings (esp. the first 4) being fairly common back in the '60s among young people, only it was somehow not such a good thing to encourage and nurture those thoughts, and the anti-social nature of these common adolescent feelings wasn't bolstered and encouraged by the 'hip' media stars. I really hate the mf's who have gotten rich and shrouded their greed by claiming to be the voice of the people. "There's only one way straight to the road of love..." citizen kafka Ton Rueckert wrote: The obituaries called Curtis Mayfield a major influence on hip-hop. Too bad his followers didn't learn a thing... Citizen Kafka, Producer, "The Secret Museum of the Air" NEW!: every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM & WXHD (Hudson Valley) 90.1 FM http://www.megasaver.com/page2/smradio.html http://wfmu.org/ then go to 'listen to wfmu' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) McKuen's Twist Date: 05 Jan 2000 11:08:33 -0500 At 05:06 AM 1/7/00 -0800, Wayno wrote: > > > On the single, McKuen's "singing" sounds like a >cross between Tony Clifton and SCTV's Edith Prickly. A whole >album would probably be hard to take. As the resident McKuen fan, I guess I have to pipe up and say that I like his singing as well as a lot of his records. Yeah he whispers, yeah he's a bit melodramatic etc. But I like it. I don't know if I "genuinely" liked it when I started down the McKuen trail but I think I do now. Not everything, but a lot of it. I like a lot of stuff that I never used to like, that I didn't like even a year ago. Give Rod a chance. Or not. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Cannabis Date: 07 Jan 2000 16:19:56 +0000 Are any listees familiar with the soundtrack to this Serge Gainsbourg film? Recommendations? Criticisms? And while we're on the subject, how about the Mary Jane soundtrack (Mike Curb?)? Thanks all, Charlie charles_moseley@mckinsey.com +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: Re: (exotica) Tons of Information! Date: 07 Jan 2000 08:47:39 -0800 (PST) Its a good idea Nathan and will be useful once Johan puts up his exotica summaries. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- Nathan Miner wrote: >> I've printed out everything about Bodner and will try to smush it all > together into an article for the Exotica site.............sound like a good > idea?? Bad idea?? Don't bother?............ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Siesta Soft Pop/First finds of 2000 Date: 07 Jan 2000 09:20:25 -0800 (PST) Hi Brad I'm fan of Steve & Eddie, certain songs of theirs just click for me. Their voices are wonderful. Its funny because I thrifted Steve & Eddie "The ABC Collection" yesterday for 45 cents in good shape. Theres also an Eddie Gorme collection I have with a wopping number of songs out there on cd. I have been looking for their Christmas Album for years. I had it once in my hand 7 or 8 years ago and didn't get it. Then I heard a really tremendous Christmas song by them on Darryl's Retro Coctail Hour and I just went nuts. The Siesta and El labels and some of the soft indie pop bands trade vocals back and forth in a modern wonderful soft pop way. The best example of the Steve & Eddie influence in modern soft pop is Ramon Leal & Beatric Binotti on the Siesta release "Bossa Nova 1999" one of my top tens from last year. He's on the right speaker and she's on the left. They do modern soft bossa sounds and the stereo imaging is fun when they trade their vocals back and forth quickly. The wonderful Siesta label and marevelous El/Cherry Red Label are availabe at other music and check out the Siesta site at: http://www.siesta.es Make sure to click on Siesta's new releases and make sure to look at the great links. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- "B. Yost" wrote: 3. Steve & Eydie - We Got Us. Does anyone else have a certain weakness for these goody-twoshoes? . Is there a modern day equivalent to this relentlessly upbeat, drenched-in-love > music? > > -- Brad __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: RE: (exotica) Audio Learning Laboratory.... Date: 07 Jan 2000 12:25:08 -0500 Peter: A couple of things...... First, you should probably post your response to the entire list so that = people can see that there is an interest in this project. Secondly; the music wouldn't have to necessarily be from current Exotica = postings, that was just an idea to make the entire taping project seem = more "legitimate" or generate more interest in swapping tapes. I've = posted a few times in the past about trading compilations but the response = was surprisingly sparse. Maybe because people simply don't want to = dedicate themselves to any type of "dubbing schedule?" As far as the number of copies, I guess that would depend on the response = I get from list members. I'd use a Maxell high-biased tape, and if = everyone cooperated, then I'd only have to put one or two copies into = "rotation" if everyone would join a "mailing chain" type set-up. We could = even determine the order of sender/sendee so you would deal with only two = people in case someone was tardy in getting the cassette sent off to the = next person. =20 Of course, it'd be a good idea to offer them "for sale" if anyone wanted = to keep a copy......... If everyone sends in material, I'd dub the tape or CD onto a cassette and = create a jacket for the compilation using a comment requested of everyone = about the cuts they are sending me as the liner notes for each individual = song. Maybe this would turn into a small booklet (it would) included in = the tape. - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: RE: (exotica) Audio Learning Laboratory.... Date: 07 Jan 2000 12:26:02 -0500 Peter: A couple of things...... First, you should probably post your response to the entire list so that = people can see that there is an interest in this project. Secondly; the music wouldn't have to necessarily be from current Exotica = postings, that was just an idea to make the entire taping project seem = more "legitimate" or generate more interest in swapping tapes. I've = posted a few times in the past about trading compilations but the response = was surprisingly sparse. Maybe because people simply don't want to = dedicate themselves to any type of "dubbing schedule?" As far as the number of copies, I guess that would depend on the response = I get from list members. I'd use a Maxell high-biased tape, and if = everyone cooperated, then I'd only have to put one or two copies into = "rotation" if everyone would join a "mailing chain" type set-up. We could = even determine the order of sender/sendee so you would deal with only two = people in case someone was tardy in getting the cassette sent off to the = next person. =20 Of course, it'd be a good idea to offer them "for sale" if anyone wanted = to keep a copy......... If everyone sends in material, I'd dub the tape or CD onto a cassette and = create a jacket for the compilation using a comment requested of everyone = about the cuts they are sending me as the liner notes for each individual = song. Maybe this would turn into a small booklet (it would) included in = the tape. - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Toop's Exotica.... Date: 07 Jan 2000 12:59:27 -0500 So how is this book?? Does it cover a lot of ground, or stick to a few like Baxter, Sumac, and = Josephine Baker??? - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) burning idea Date: 07 Jan 2000 10:03:45 -0800 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Bump > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 4:12 PM > since lots of people on this list burn there own cds...(now me!) > i was thinking a groovy thing to do would be to circulate a personal fave > collection of tunes...it would be a great learning tool and a way of > getting more cool tunes for your collection. (especially for you > newbians!) I think this is a fantastic, fantastic idea. Problem is, I'm one of those newbies with a tiny exotica collection and no turntable -- which, in hindsight, would be great for me! However: I do have a CD burner, so I can be one of those people who can burn for others. We can do a little CD-tree thingy with this... The mind staggers at the prospect of finally hearing what recent threads have been about. I would love to hear some Mel Henke. And Claudine Longet. And definitive songs that spell out the difference between soft pop and sunshine pop... Later, Ben http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/ ICQ# 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Josh Renaud" Subject: (exotica) MP3... Date: 07 Jan 2000 13:14:17 -0500 While we're on the subject of burning CDs and stuff, what about MP3s? If we could find somewhere to store them, it would be a great reference for everyone on this list. Since this music had its heyday decades ago, how do the public domain laws affect it? JOSH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Audio Learning Laboratory.... Date: 07 Jan 2000 13:21:51 -0500 We could even=20 > determine the order of sender/sendee so you would deal with=20 > only two people in case someone was tardy in getting the=20 > cassette sent off to the next person. =20 This sounds like the best way, make a daisy chain so to speak, always sending to the same two people, so there's accountability... >=20 > If everyone sends in material, I'd dub the tape or CD onto a=20 > cassette and create a jacket for the compilation using a=20 > comment requested of everyone about the cuts they are sending=20 > me as the liner notes for each individual song. Maybe this=20 > would turn into a small booklet (it would) included in the tape. I have seen in the past fanzine based monthly comp tapes that seem to = have followed the same routine. Always fun to get, cheap subscription, and = had lots of tunes with great liner notes and addresses for more if you = wanted to get in touch with the bands. =20 Nathan, can you handle DAT tapes for this? visit=20 THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20 at http://www.brimstones.com =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,= =B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4 surfing the chaos, Charlieman cdr@brimstones.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) First finds of 2000 Date: 07 Jan 2000 13:32:06 EST In a message dated 1/6/0 7:44:10 PM, byost@megsinet.net wrote: >Nancy Walker - I Hate Men (w/ Sid Bass & His orchestra). Living >Stereo outing by a singer I'm not familiar with Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Nancy a Broadway song and dance type gal of a certain noteriety? And didn't she also tell us about "Bounty, The Quicker Picker Upper"? Correct me if I'm wrong....Jimmy Botticelli # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) First finds of 2000 Date: 07 Jan 2000 13:30:58 -0500 >Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Nancy a Broadway song and dance type gal >of a certain noteriety? And didn't she also tell us about "Bounty, The >Quicker Picker Upper"? Correct me if I'm wrong....Jimmy Botticelli No need for correction. That is indeed the same person. She had quite a career. Singer, actor and even directed a film, although that film turned out to be "Can't Stop the Music" starring the Village People, Valerie Perrine and decathlete Bruce Jenner. She was also the mute maid in the film "Murder by Death" Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Welcome to Chinatown! Date: 07 Jan 2000 15:12:49 +0100 unfortunately, this title is deleted, and there never was a volume 2 i think. even more bad news: the guy who ran this label, DANIEL ROUFFET, died last year, so there won't be any further releases. the mailorder is handled by Patrick Michiels - fax ++ 32-3-776.82.33 this is what is still available (within the scope of this list) from the address Brian mentioned) * Ann-Margret: "Hits And Rarities" CD, Marginal MA 022, Belgium, 1995 * Willie Bobo: "Let's Go Bobo! (The Very Best Of)" CD, Marginal 012, USA, 1995 * Earl Grant: "Organ Fever" CD, Marginal/Missing CD 004, Belgium, 1998 * Eartha Kitt: "Best" CD, Marginal MAR 038, Belgium, 1997 * Jane Mansfield: "Busts Up Las Vegas (House Of Love; Live At The Dunes Hotel, Las Vegas)" CD, Missing MISS 005 (Marginal), Belgium, 1998 * April Stevens: "Teach Me Tiger (+ 18 Nino Tempo Tracks)" CD, Marginal MAR 086, Belgium, 1996 * Various Artists: "Latin Party vol. 1" CD, Marginal LP 001, Belgium, 1999 * Various Artists: "Latino 'popcorn' Fever Volume 2" CD, Marginal MAR 013, Belgium, 1995 * Mamie Van Dooren: "The Girl Who Invented Rock'n'roll" CD, Marginal MAR 062, Belgium, 199? Johan ----- Brian Karasick wrote: > >We picked up a really good CD compilation last week called >Welcome to Chinatown Vol. 1 - Oriental "Popcorn" Tracks. It's kind >of like Jungle Exotica, one of my favourite compilations, but with a >kitchy Chinese theme. I was trying to find out more about it and the >label, "Marginal Records" as the disc dates from 1995, there is no >e-mail or web adress, and the mail order address could be out of >date. > >I was about to ask Johan as it is a Belgian label but my web >search turns up one hit, not surprisingly his own listing of 1995 >releases! > >> v/a : Welcome to Chinatown - Oriental "Popcorn" tracks, vol.1 * >> (Marginal MAR CD 002, BE, 1995) >> direct mailorder: Patrick Michiels, PB 4, 9100 Nieuwkerke, >> Belgium) > >Just want to recommend this one and at the same time ask Johan >if he can post more info on this and other releases on the label and >to confirm the mailorder address (or e-mail if any?). Also is there a >Volume 2? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: more thoughts on the archives Date: 07 Jan 2000 15:17:23 +0100 m.ace wrote: >Good luck to you Johan! That's a BIG job you're taking on. hey, i never said i would put the complete archives into that database of mine, i'm not THAt mad :) it will be just a small fraction, really... Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) recent acquisitions Date: 07 Jan 2000 19:37:54 +0100 * Luie Luie: Creator of "Touchy" LP, Penstar Productions P700, USA (CD-R copy) Freestyle psych tijuana ska, if you can imagine such a thing. Luie Luie plays all the instruments himself, including 14 overdubbed trumpet parts on 1 track! * Pastor John Rydgren and peter Tork: Silhouette Segments Double LP, Weird-Oh disc 002, 1960's (CD-R copy) quote: Subliminal Sounds: Incredibly hip and over the top 60s recordings that has remained completely unknown until now. Very few copies of the original double LP known among collectors. In the style of Ken Nordine, narration by Mr. John Rydgren but... he is backed by super groovy music, sound effects, cut-ups, wild dj'ing from the 60s, to take you on an incredible turned on journey to hipsville. The ultimate take on Music to Watch Girls By, A natural phenomena...watching girls. A special attraction...girls...designed for man by god. The Hippie Version of Creation, Search It Out, the production dramatizes were they are, where they search...cars, a Moonkee concert, the surf, problems...represented by the train, elephants, a trip, and in the middle of all this...the answer they have found. The Happening, Dark Side of the Flower it's an entertaining trip. * Bruno Nicolai: soundtracks: Buon Funerale Amigos... Paga Sartana/ Gli Fumavano Le Colt... Lo Chimavano Camposanto CD, Beat CDCR 39, Italy, 1997 note: "Buon Funerale Amigos" is pure Morricone plagiarism. Lots of spooky, horror-like themes. "Gli Fumavano" is more original, though both contain all the usual spaghetti ingredients. * Tony Crombie: Man from Interpol LP, Top Rank mono RM 327, USA Classic front cover! Excellent spy soundtrack, a bit jazzy, no repeats, lots of variation * Riz Ortolani: The Spy With A Cold Nose LP, Columbia stereo OS 3070, USA Classic front cover! One of those "variations on one theme" soundtracks, but a wonderful and catchy theme song it is * Lalo Schifrin: The Liquidator LP, MGM {CD-R copy} beautiful and varied soundtrack: a strong big band theme sung by Shirley Bassey that is as good as any Bond theme by John Barry; some bossa nova; crime jazz; cool jazz; jazzy pop; groovy rockin' twist; jazz-pop; orchestral EZ. Excellent arrangements with occasional odd instruments and sounds. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E4mmel?= Subject: (exotica) New in this List / Karminsky Experience Date: 07 Jan 2000 19:45:55 +0100 (MET) Hi, I`m new in this List and don`t want bore you at the moment with my likes and dislikes. Just a short Message: The great KARMINSKY EXPERIENCE from London are DJ-ing at the Atomic Cafe, Neuturmstr.5, Munich, Tuesday, januar 11 2000 21°°-Open End happy new year! Martin -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SLarry3595@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Will Basic Hip burn in hell for ever? Date: 07 Jan 2000 13:44:14 EST Roy, Thanks for the review of the Basic Hip CD. It made for very entertaining reading. And, no, Basic Hip will not burn in hell forever. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: (exotica) soul father, angry father Date: 07 Jan 2000 13:55:52 -0500 In principle, yes, but: I live in NYC. I see literally hundreds of young men walking down the street or sitting in the subway or a bus loudly mumbling words which, if it weren't known that they were song lyrics, would land them in lock-up for threatening and mentally ill behavior. I'm pretty certain that the same thing goes on in suburbia -different demographic, same music. Some interesting studies now coming to light using research about music during the last twenty years, discussing recruitment into racist/fascist organizations (all races...). The emotions and feelings we're talking about are the ones on which all great drama, theatre, and literature base their action and tension. Didn't think i needed to iterate... but there is a huge mainstream exploiting these raging currents in a very destructive way. I am not saying that everybody should be 'sissies' about these things, only i see a shift in magnitude of emphasis in a very negative way re individual expression and the resulting effect on the society and social environment. I could begin to discuss the role of 'dope' in this equation, but that would take us too far afield... unless we keep it to 'exotics.' take care, ck -- Citizen Kafka, Producer, "The Secret Museum of the Air" NEW!: every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM & WXHD (Hudson Valley) 90.1 FM http://www.megasaver.com/page2/smradio.html http://wfmu.org/ then go to 'listen to wfmu' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: Re: (exotica) burning idea Date: 07 Jan 2000 14:04:52 -0500 This is more unwieldy and a bit of work, but ultimately much more useful, i think: a webpage, private/semi-private, or an email catalog. Every participant submits CD-Rs and/or tapes. Perhaps, a brave soul could administer the whole thing like a tiny record club, even burning and dubbing. Track listings for every tape/CD-R are available. You like something, you "order" it. Price? Basic cost, shipping/packing, and a taste for doing the deed to the guilty party. This way, you can avoid duplicating lots of stuff, pick what sounds interesting, and be selective. Sorry about the money thing, it's just that it is a medium of EXCHange, after all... my two cents. Say, maybe this is my new business for the year 2000... ck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) burning idea Date: 07 Jan 2000 14:23:29 -0500 Let's continue these "round table talks" - but I'm outta the volunteering = positing if it leans towards the computer-based internetthingymajiggy = stuff............. - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlt4@mindspring.com Subject: Re: (exotica) MP3... Date: 07 Jan 2000 14:25:35 -0500 >Since this music had its heyday decades ago, how do the public domain >laws affect it? Very little of the music discussed on this list is likely to be public domain. Right now it's unclear whether making an MP3 counts as a personal use copy but it is clear that any distribution (passing it along to a friend, putting it on a website for others to download, etc) would be a copyright violation. LT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cliché" Subject: (exotica) greetings Date: 07 Jan 2000 20:32:02 +0100 greetings for all from Hungary cliché new member # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cliché" Subject: (exotica) greetings Date: 07 Jan 2000 20:32:37 +0100 greetings for all from Hungary cliché new member # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: Re: (exotica) burning idea - C. Kafka's HIRED, Date: 07 Jan 2000 11:42:29 -0800 Perhaps, a brave soul could administer the >whole thing like a tiny record club, even burning and dubbing. Track >listings for every tape/CD-R are available. You like something, you >"order" it. . Sorry about >the money thing, it's just that it is a medium of EXCHange, after all... Hey, time is worth something, right? We all give a little and whoever dedicates the time and (considerable) resources to actually making it work should be able get a "taste" as you put it. Unless some wants to be an Exotican Monk cloistered in a dark apartment near a post-office somewhere, and do all this for free. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) greetings Date: 07 Jan 2000 14:43:49 -0500 Cliché wrote: > greetings for all from Hungary > cliché new member New subscribers may reconsider their decision to join when they discover that they are required to fill in this form, created back in 1996 by the erstwhile Lounge Laura. All who haven't previously done so may meet their obligation now. Yep, it's Exotica Amnesty 2000! 1. Are you a musician? Explain... 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? 3. This list could help you more by... 4. Other exotica/things you collect 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like 6. What are you just dying to tell us? 7. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or other lounge-wear of which you are proud? 8. Shaken/stirred? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dciccone@inspex.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Will Basic Hip burn in hell for ever? Date: 07 Jan 2000 14:39:26 -0500 Thinkmatic! Also thanks for the review. Lets remind everyone that you hear those interesting religious tracks on: http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm at last weeks show. Domenic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lou Smith" Subject: (exotica) The best that America has to offer Date: 07 Jan 2000 15:03:52 -0500 Madonna To Perform at Super Bowl The Associated Press Friday, Jan. 7, 2000; 2:28 p.m. EST ATLANTA =96=96 Madonna will perform during the Super Bo= wl pregame show, and Phil Collins will headline halftime entertainment that includes Christina Aguilera, Enrique Iglesias and Toni Braxton. Madonna, who has sold more than 100 million recordings, will give the debut performance of her new single, a rendition of Don MacLean's "American Pie." The pregame show is a salute to "Great American Music of the 20th Century." The Smothers Brothers are hosts of the pregame show, which features performances by Tina Turner and Travis Tritt. The halftime show, titled "Tapestry of Nations," will be produced by The Walt Disney Co. for the sixth time. It will feature an 80-member orchestra, puppets and a choir. The Super Bowl in scheduled for Jan. 30. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: FW: Re: (exotica) Fela Date: 07 Jan 2000 14:29:47 -0500 Nat talked about the Fela one groove thang. Which got me wondering if the also happened with Fela live. Sort of one tune, up a plateau. Next number another plateau. And so on til the place was high high high. Or was there more modulation, like with King Sunny Ade all three times I saw him perform? The King's wild ride. Or was it like Ebanezer Obey, who started high and pretty much sustained the energy at teetering levels? Anyone lucky enough to see Fela care to comment? Ton? Thx, Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits] Don Martin,Bernhard Wicki,Wilbur Campbell,Billy Davenport Date: 07 Jan 2000 15:16:42 -0500 MIAMI (AP) -- Don Martin, longtime Mad magazine cartoonist who drew an assortment of wild-haired characters, punctuating the grotesque action with wacky words like SPLOP! and POIT!!, has died. He was 68. Martin died of cancer at Baptist Hospital, hospital spokeswoman Christine Thompson said today. During his 30-odd years as a Mad contributor, Martin based his humor on misery and misfortune, to crack ``sick'' jokes. The magazine dubbed him ``Mad's Maddest Cartoonist.'' The guy poisoning pigeons in the park -- ``I hate pigeons'' -- winds up killing the people who gather around to sample his scrumptious popcorn. Mona Lisa, as the reader realizes only in the last frame of the strip, is sitting on a toilet. Hapless boobs with big feet get squashed in all manner of ways. ``There's always been physical suffering in comedy,'' he once said. ``Even ancient clowns kicked each other in the seat of the pants or hit each other over the head. It's the same thing in our time, just a little stronger.'' The cartoons had a vocabulary all their own. ``SHKLIP'' was the sound made when construction workers tossed concrete at each other. ``SPLOP'' described a surgeon throwing body parts into a doggie bag. ``FAGROON'' came from a collapsing skyscraper. His license plate read ``SHTOINK.'' ``Is it funny? That's the only test I know when it comes to cartooning,'' Martin once said. ``Not whether it's sick, or whether it's going to ruin people's values or morals. You only have to ask a simple question: Is it funny?'' His twisted approach influenced generations of younger cartoonists. ``Don Martin was the one who really stood out,'' Gary ``The Far Side'' Larson told The Miami Herald in 1990. ``I really always loved his work. He was such a great artist.'' Martin left Mad magazine in 1987 after a falling-out with its publisher, the late William Gaines, accepting a job at Cracked, a competitor. Martin chafed at the tradition that Mad, like most publishers, retained all rights to reprint and profit from his work that it used, paying him on a free-lance basis. But he put out paperbacks of cartoons not published in the magazine, eventually selling more than 7 million copies. Martin drew despite a degenerative eye condition that forced him to undergo cornea transplants, wear special, highly uncomfortable contact lenses and use a magnifying glass while drawing. ``He was a shy and retiring sort of guy, considering he drew a comic strip that was crazy,'' said a longtime friend, Laurence Donovan. Martin was born in Clifton, N.J., and began his undergraduate work at the Newark Institute. He earned a fine arts degree from the Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts. He began submitting drawings to the fledgling Mad magazine in the mid-50s. http://rcswww.urz.tu-dresden.de/~haensel/Don_Martin/don_martin_main.html -------------- Ten Years After His Death, Python In New Stunt (AP/IMDb) More than a decade after his death in October, 1989, the ashes of former Monty Python member Graham Chapman were reportedly shot into the skies over a Welsh mountain on New Year's Eve The midnight stunt was evidently the idea of Chapman's long-time life partner, David Sherlock, and is said to have been Chapman's last request. Sherlock supervised, and the Dangerous Sports Club managed the firing. Asked by a reporter for the London Daily Record why he took so long to carry out Chapman's wish, Sherlock replied, "I simply hadn't gotten around to it." ------------------- MUNICH, Germany (Reuters) - Swiss film director and actor Bernhard Wicki, one of the most acclaimed film-makers in the German language and co-director of the Hollywood war epic ``The Longest Day,'' died Wednesday aged 80. A spokeswoman for his agent said he had died in his flat in Munich after a long illness. Wicki started out as an actor but is best remembered for his career as a director, which began in 1959 with the highly regarded anti-war film ``Die Bruecke'' (The Bridge). The success of that film brought him to Hollywood where his credits included ``The Longest Day'' in 1962. He also directed ``The Visit'' with Ingrid Bergman and Anthony Quinn in 1964 and ``Morituri'' with Marlon Brando in 1965. As an actor his achievements included the role of a dying writer in Michelangelo Antonioni's ``La Notte'' in 1960. Born in Austria in 1919, Wicki studied theater under the legendary German actor Gustav Gruendgens. In 1938 he spent 10 months in the Nazi concentration camp at Sachsenhausen because of his communist views and his membership of the radical Bauhaus school of architecture. http://allmovie.com/cg/x.dll?UID=3:08:13|PM&p=avg&sql=B116694 -------- Just read of the death of Chicago-area jazz drummer Wilbur Campbell in the latter days of 1999: http://chicagotribune.com/news/obituaries/article/0,2669,SAV-0001040126,FF.html ------------------- Also, another Chicago-area jazz drummer, Billy Davenport, died the day before Christmas: http://elvispelvis.com/billydavenport.htm ----------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) McKuen's Twist & "Bring Back [your name here]" Date: 07 Jan 2000 14:38:32 -0500 Hiya Wayno, > The recent spate of pleas to "bring back" Jack Diamond, >or anyone else who's not currently posting are becoming tiresome. >It's not as if anyone was forcibly removed against their will! >Who, exactly, is supposed to "bring" these people back? > > If you want someone to post to the list, write to your intended >contributor, don't ask everyone else to "bring them back." Chill out, buddy. I did write Jack and he's got other things to do. We got interesting things to talk about. And now we're talkin', including you. Good to hear you and everyone else speak up. Affectionately, Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thinkmatic@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Brass Ring Remix Date: 07 Jan 2000 15:38:23 EST If anyone cares I uploaded an early version of my remix of "The Disadvantages of You" titled "The Disadvantages of Me". I have a slightly better version around here somewhere, but for the life of me I can't find it. The 32kbps -22kHz mp3 encoding and my sloppy mix down makes it sound a bit worse then it latter versions. It's at: http://members.aol.com/thinkmatic/disadv1x.mp3 -Roy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) burning idea - C. Kafka's HIRED, Date: 07 Jan 2000 12:38:58 -0800 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Ron Grandia > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 11:42 AM Citizen Kafka wrote: > . Sorry about > >the money thing, it's just that it is a medium of EXCHange, after all... And Ron Grandia wrote: > Hey, time is worth something, right? We all give a little and whoever > dedicates the time and (considerable) resources to actually making it work > should be able get a "taste" as you put it. The U-SPACES mailing list has an extremely systematic method of sending out its Psychedelic Archaeology CDs. If I can remember correctly, no money is actually exchanged -- all one sends out is an SASE and two blank CDs for every CD burned, or something like that. To handle copyright stuff, the prospective track list is sent to the entire mailing list for crosschecking: any tracks which have appeared on CD compilations or have been reissued are discarded. But of course, we're all just talking about exposure to various genres here, right? So it shouldn't have to be so elaborate. Perhaps we can have two representative tracks from each little sub-genre (now figuring those out would be an interesting thread). A kind of Exotica sampler, maybe. > Unless some wants to be an Exotican Monk cloistered in a dark apartment > near a post-office somewhere, and do all this for free. The idea of an Exotican Monk sounds highly appealing. An acolyte of St. Martin and San Juan Garcia, perhaps? Later, Ben http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/ ICQ# 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) greetings Date: 07 Jan 2000 15:19:14 -0500 Welcome Martin from Munich (guessing here) and cliche from Hungary. Speak up and have fun. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Kovelant" Subject: Re: (exotica) [obits] Don Martin, etc. Date: 07 Jan 2000 15:45:02 -0500 The news of Don Martin's passing saddens me deeply. I had contacted Mad Magazine last week in hopes of gaining their assistance in securing an interview with him for a website I help maintain. He will be sorely missed. I can't think of a bigger influence on my sense of humor as a child than his cartoons. -Kev. "Beware of Dracula, Frankenstein and Chameleon Man! They could be chasing you without notice!" --Game Description for the arcade game "Monster Bash" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SLarry3595@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) burning idea Date: 07 Jan 2000 16:19:00 EST Please count me in on this cd burning project. Thanks, Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) burning idea Date: 07 Jan 2000 16:24:31 EST In a message dated 01/07/00 4:20:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, SLarry3595@aol.com writes: << Please count me in on this cd burning project. Thanks, Larry >> i am working on an organ comp of all the best organ music i have. i'm game. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) This week on The Retro Cocktail Hour Date: 07 Jan 2000 15:27:22 -0600 On this week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast, it's "Hi-Fi Latin Exotica" from Cabaret Diosa. These mambo madcaps are about to launch a brief tour of the Midwest and the East Coast, so check 'em out on the RCH this weekend! Find out more at the Cabaret Diosa website: http://www.cabaretdiosa.com/home.html Elsewhere on the show, you'll find Pete Rugolo's "Quiet Village Cha-Cha" (now on CD!); jungle jazz by Living Percussion, Les Baxter, Ted Auletta and Marty Wilson; crime jazz from Lalo Schifrin's new "Mannix" CD and John Williams's music from "Checkmate"; organ-istics by Jackie Davis, Buddy Cole, John Buzon and Dick Hyman (check out our new "Organs In Orbit" exhibit in the Cover Gallery); plus Bob Thompson, Kenyon Hopkins, Les Maledictus Sound, The Third Wave and many more. Hear the live STEREO webcast at 7:00pm Central Time on Saturday at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/realaudio/index.htm The show will be available in our program archive at or about the same time for listening anytime: http://kanu.ukans.edu/realaudio Requires a minimum 28.8 Internet connection and RealPlayer. If you tune in, please drop us a line and say hello! Thanks for the space. Darrell Brogdon dbrogdon@ukans.edu The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: RE: (exotica) burning idea - C. Kafka's HIRED, Date: 07 Jan 2000 15:50:55 -0500 Ben wrote: >The U-SPACES mailing list has an extremely systematic method of sending out >its Psychedelic Archaeology CDs. If I can remember correctly, no money is >actually exchanged -- all one sends out is an SASE and two blank CDs for >every CD burned, or something like that. Great idea. What I remember about international copyright, money is the test. Once $$ changes hands, the laws/Berne agreements are bent too much. >To handle copyright stuff, the prospective track list is sent to the entire >mailing list for crosschecking: any tracks which have appeared on CD >compilations or have been reissued are discarded. But of course, we're all >just talking about exposure to various genres here, right? So it shouldn't >have to be so elaborate. Another way to play a little fast and loose with copyrights. Copyrighted material can be reproduced free of charge for educational purposes. So maybe instead of a monastery dedicated to St. Martin and San Juan Garcia, we need to set up eXotica University, extension class materials on CD-R. C. Kafka, you wanna be dean? Legal disclaimer: I ain't no lawyer. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Newbie CD starter kit Date: 07 Jan 2000 17:12:00 -0500 >I really dig this list, but its pretty obvious to me that I'm new to >most of the artists you guys talk about. Could you recommend a few albums This is bound to create some disagreements, but here's my stab at a "young person's first exotica (and etcetera) library." All are 90s CDs. Trying to stick more to the core, rather than straying into soft pop and everywhere else. Various artist comps: "Best Of Moog" (Loud) "Cocktail Mix, Vol. 1: A Bachelor's Guide To The Galaxy" (Rhino) "The History Of Space Age Pop" 3 volumes (RCA) "RE/Search: Incredibly Strange Music, Vol. 1" (Caroline) "RE/Search: Incredibly Strange Music, Vol. 2" (Asphodel) "Music For A Bachelor's Den, Vol. 2: Exotica" (DCC) "Music For A Bachelor's Den, Vol. 4: Easy Rhythms For Your Cocktail Hour" (DCC) "Only In America" (Arf Arf) "The Sound Gallery, Volume 1" (Scamp) "Ultra Lounge, Vol. 1: Mondo Exotica" (Capitol) Single artists: Burt Bacharach - "Casino Royale" soundtrack (Varese Sarabande) Les Baxter - "The Exotic Moods Of Les Baxter" (Capitol) Martin Denny - "Exotica/Exotica II" two-fer (Scamp) " - Capitol's 2-disc set (I forget the title) Esquivel - "Space Age Bachelor Pad Music" (Bar/None) " - "Infinity In Sound, Vols. 1 & 2" two-fer (Bar/None) Neal Hefti - "Batman Theme & 19 Hefti Bat Songs" (Razor & Tie) Mel Henke - "La Dolce Henke" (Scamp) Enoch Light - "Persuasive Percussion" (Varese Sarabande) Henry Mancini - "Touch Of Evil" soundtrack (Varese Sarabande) Hugo Montenegro - "The Music From Uncle" (Razor & Tie) 101 Strings - "Astro-Sounds From Beyond The Year 2000" (Scamp) Perez Prado - "Voodoo Suite/Exotic Suite Of The Americas" two-fer (Bear Family) Andre Popp - "Delirium In Hi-Fi" (Basta) Lalo Schifrin - "Music From Mission: Impossible" (Hip-O) Raymond Scott - "Reckless Nights & Turkish Twilights" (Basta; also now out in US on, uh, Sony? RCA?) Yma Sumac "Voice Of The Xtabay" (EMI/The Right Stuff) (actually a two-fer of the "Xtabay" and "Inca Taqui" records) Apologies for leaving out your favorite. After posting this I'll probably be smacking my own forehead, saying, "Oh no, how could I forget _____!" m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) burning idea Date: 07 Jan 2000 17:30:11 EST In a message dated 1/7/0 4:26:28 PM, Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: >i am working on an organ comp of all the best organ music i have. i'm game. I just mixed up the exact same thing "Switched Off JimmyBee" to be sent to Basic Hip and Thee Millionaire for Luxuriamusic.com (nothing but vinyl and NO "Organs In Orbit") # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: (exotica) burning idea - C. Kafka's HIRED, Date: 07 Jan 2000 17:32:13 EST In a message dated 1/7/0 4:37:10 PM, mimim@texas.net wrote: > CD-R C.Kafka, you wanna be dean? Citizen says, "Yeah, but how can I be sure to give you a passing grade?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: RE: (exotica) burning idea Date: 05 Jan 2000 18:22:44 -0500 At 10:03 AM 1/7/00 -0800, Benito Vergara wrote: >And definitive songs that spell out the difference between soft pop and >sunshine pop... Oooh, I love it when people - other than me - try to split hairs. Especially when discussing genres that were just identified and are none too specific. Is there a difference between soft pop and sunshine pop? There is if you want to say that there is. I use the terms interchangeably but I could see them split into two different genres. If I was to do that, I'd say that sunshine pop is soft pop that has lots of bababada choruses and sunshiney themes. So that Tommy Roe and the Sandpipers might be soft pop but The Association would be sunshine pop. I think that would actually be a worthwhile distinction. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: RE: (exotica) Audio Learning Laboratory.... Date: 05 Jan 2000 18:30:39 -0500 At 01:21 PM 1/7/00 -0500, Rajnai, Charles, NNAD wrote: > >This sounds like the best way, make a daisy chain so to speak, always >sending to the same two people, so there's accountability... Well I wasn't sure I wanted to participate in this but if you call it a "daisy chain", how can I resist? So count me in, whatever it is. But is this actually going to create any actual compilation tapes that someone could own? I guess I don't understand it. Oh and I don't have a CD burner. I will get one but first my friend's new TV series has to be picked up. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) Nancy Walker Date: 05 Jan 2000 18:36:25 -0500 At 01:30 PM 1/7/00 -0500, Brian Phillips wrote: > >No need for correction. That is indeed the same person. She had quite a >career. Singer, actor and even directed a film, although that film turned >out to be "Can't Stop the Music" starring the Village People, Valerie >Perrine and decathlete Bruce Jenner. I guess I could just go to the movie database but are you sure about that? I thought she was only allowed to direct once and I thought she directed that Billy Crystal piece of crap "Rabbit Test". No wait, maybe that was Joan Rivers. I know it was some TV hack who never got to do it again, thank God. Which reminds me. A long time ago, when I was first trying to make films, we used to joke around that Stevie Wonder would probably get to make a film before any of us did. Then a few years ago, I read that itruth was once again proving to be stranger than fiction and indeed Stevie was about to direct his first film. Or maybe it was just a video. But either way, does anyone know what happened to that? It couldn't be any worse than "Can't Stop the Music". Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) you are goin' to hell, but I mean that in a nice way bababada Date: 07 Jan 2000 18:31:28 -0500 >And definitive songs that spell out the difference between soft pop and >sunshine pop... And just to confuse the issue, check out this CD-R: http://fringeware.com/~melba/catalog.html Feelin' So Groovy Inside (Various Artists) The Jesus music of the early 70s "now generation." Experience the warm fuzzy sound with the sadistic hellfire messare in the lyrics. The origins of what later became the mega-business known as Con-temporary Kristian music. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bump Subject: (exotica) burning idea in action Date: 07 Jan 2000 17:44:29 -0500 wow...looks like i have generated some excitement on this idea... that is GREAT, however some of you have come up with ideas that, to me, seem like a hassle... i was trying to think of the EASIEST, drag-free way to do something like this. and Nathan, i am not leaving anybody out of this! everyone is welcome, cassette people, mp3 peeps or even people with no collection at all. so this is for all those who want to be a part of this (say "Exotica Ring"!) and you already have or plan to make a tape or cd you want to circulate OR you just want to recieve them. (it is not manditory to have something to send) 1. send me your name, snail-mailing address and E-EMAIL address. bumpy@megsinet.net put EXOTICA RING in the subject line. 2, i will compile them and send them to everyone involved. i will personalize each list, jumbling the order so no one person gets a bunch of cd's at once. and i will put your name last so you eventually get your cd back. 3. mail your tape or cd to the first person on the list with a copy of YOUR list. 4. that lucky person keeps the disc or cassette for a week or two and then sends it to the next person on the list. no time limit, just a courtesy. thats it. 5. this is endless. when you have something to send, just send it...(along with your list) 6. be sure to put your mailing info on the disk or cassette in case their is a foul up somewhere and the person holding it loses the list and does not know where to send it. how does that sound? easy enough huh? let me know of any flaws in the plan. i am not talking about $$$ here...if you sign up you may have to send something clear across the world. (no surface mail) all first class baby! this is a luxury and we are all big spenders. (when it comes to music) those of you with cassettes, i will volunteer to make a cd dub of them if you wish but you need to send me a blank "cdr-audio". i have a Philips component deck. if all of this sounds just dandy to you... i will put a deadline on you getting me your info as being January 19th 2000. Edgar Allan Poe's birthday. He is buried here in Baltimore. i was going to make it b-day of the Surrealist Manifesto of 1925 on the 27th but i wanted to localize it, plus it seemed too far away. any other suggestions on what we should call this Exotica Ring? p.s on the hard-ass side of it... this service is a one time offer from me, i do not plan to update the list down the road...so any newcomers or hold outs will not be able to participate if i do not get your info by the 19th. other people can organize the list if they want to later on. bump out # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Combustible Club Opening Date: 07 Jan 2000 18:32:52 EST BOSTON Look for a stylish new club called "Lilli's" to open in Somerville (MA) by springtime. Owners Lilli Dennison, Brother Cleve, and Patrick Sullivan (also owner of the B-Side Lounge in Cambridge) just purchased Club 3 in Somerville and have grand plans to convert the 380-person space into a "real friendly place with a lounge feel," says Dennison. She anticipates booking bands five nights a week with DJ entertainment the other two nights overseen by Brother Cleve. "We're going to be eclectic. We'll do everything with a twist," she says. "As of next week we're completely rebuilding the space and will hopefully open in April." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) burning idea Date: 07 Jan 2000 18:34:16 EST In a message dated 1/7/00 5:30:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, DJJimmyBee writes: << nothing but vinyl and NO "Organs In Orbit") >> i like some of the organs in orbit cuts! john buzon trio and baker trio # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Nancy Walker Date: 07 Jan 2000 18:35:23 EST I know she's been around a hell of a lot longer than mentioned yet, but my computer is too slow to do a search # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: RE: (exotica) you are goin' to hell, but I mean that in a nice way bababada Date: 07 Jan 2000 15:54:17 -0800 http://fringeware.com/~melba/catalog.html Holy Fuggin' MOLY!!!! What a great site!!! Chock full-o-must-haves. Alas, it is CLOSED... No worky. 800 number is D.O.A. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bubblegum@newsguy.com Subject: Re: (exotica) burning idea Date: 07 Jan 2000 18:09:38 -0600 Nat Kone wrote: > > At 10:03 AM 1/7/00 -0800, Benito Vergara wrote: > >And definitive songs that spell out the difference between soft pop and > >sunshine pop... > > Oooh, I love it when people - other than me - try to split hairs. > Especially when discussing genres that were just identified and are none > too specific. > Is there a difference between soft pop and sunshine pop? There is if you > want to say that there is. > I use the terms interchangeably but I could see them split into two > different genres. If I was to do that, I'd say that sunshine pop is soft > pop that has lots of bababada choruses and sunshiney themes. > So that Tommy Roe and the Sandpipers might be soft pop but The Association > would be sunshine pop. > I think that would actually be a worthwhile distinction. > No way is Tommy Roe "soft"! I mean, "Jam Up and Jelly Tight"? Tommy Roe is *bubblegum*. ;) -- Kerry sheesh, the noive... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) wb stereo Date: 07 Jan 2000 19:20:13 -0800 Not too long ago there was discussion of the Warner Brothers Stereo Workshop Series. I just got a demo album which, I believe, has selections from four of the albums in the series. If you can't get the series...then maybe this one album will quench your thirst! Of course, it may be hard to find. This is the first copy I have seen. It is SRS1 Warner Brothers SEARS Silvertone Demonstration Album. It features three selections from Mel Henke (Every Little Movement/Streets of Cairo, Flying Trapeeze, South Meets North), two from Shorty Rogers (Speak Low and Baubles, Bangles and Beads), three from Buddy Cole (Caravan, Theme from Picnic/Moonglow and Cherokee) and two from David Swift (Blues on Parade, The Original Boogie Woogie). Can't listen to it yet...have yet to find my amp in all the boxes I opened up so far from my move. Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: RE: (exotica) Audio Learning Laboratory, New Twist Date: 07 Jan 2000 23:12:23 -0500 Pardon me for taking a different tack, but it's the Year 2000 -- couldn't we do it through the Net? An archive of MP3s would require a lot of server space and probably be busted eventually. But for a different example, look at all of the DJs on this list with live and/or archived web-radio shows -- some are spinoffs of broadcast radio, some are pure webcasts. And apparently quite legal (yet). So why not a "Radio Free Exotica" webcast? I'm sure someone out there would be glad to be the "house DJ" (or the post could be shared or rotated) and put the show together. The rest of us could send tracks in (via Net or snail mail) to him/her/them for inclusion in the show. Maybe a weekly show? It could tie right in to current threads on the list. There would be technical issues to hash out (format, finding a host, etc), but I think it would be mighty slick and, dare I say, *space age*. Any thoughts? Ron? Luxuria gang? :::::: And a side note to the newbies seeking to hear more of what we're talking about: you can hear much of it right now on the webcasts I mentioned. For starters, there's Darrell's Retro Cocktail Hour (just posted earlier this evening): http://www.ukans.edu/~kanu-fm/retro.html But you know, this would be a good time for all of our web DJs to pipe in with a roll call of their URLs and broadcast times. I'm sure even us oldbies wouldn't mind the opportunity to update our bookmarks. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Nancy Walker Date: 08 Jan 2000 01:13:08 -0500 > >No need for correction. That is indeed the same person. She had quite a > >career. Singer, actor and even directed a film, although that film turned > >out to be "Can't Stop the Music" starring the Village People, Valerie > >Perrine and decathlete Bruce Jenner. > >I guess I could just go to the movie database but are you sure about that? > >I thought she was only allowed to direct once and I thought she directed >that Billy Crystal piece of crap "Rabbit Test". No wait, maybe that was >Joan Rivers. I know it was some TV hack who never got to do it again, >thank God. Yes indeed, I am sure about that, Nat. I read about "Can't Stop the Music" in "The Golden Turkey Awards" by the Medveds. She said of her directing, "What I am trying to acheive is a sense of rhythms". The book goes into quite a bit of detail about the film. So much detail that it has deterred me from ever seeing the movie (not to mention an antipathy for the Village People's music). "Rabbit Test" was co-written and directed by Joan Rivers. In her autobiography, she disowned the movie, saying that there were two scenes she felt good about. Both women share the dubious honor of having directed only one theatrical release. Back to music, sort of. Walker's Broadway album still haunts me, since I used to go in the Tower Records in San Diego many moons ago and I can still conjure up the image of Walker, mouth agape as if she were screaming a Frank Loesser tune. I haven't heard the album, but I do rather like the score to "Hans Christian Anderson", which has Danny Kaye singing. It's the Loesser of two egos. Had to get that (literal and figurative) gag in, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) the list Date: 08 Jan 2000 01:50:03 -0500 >Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr wrote: >> But at this point, 800 LPs later, it's becoming more infrequent to >> find those mind-blowing, eye-opening new finds. Kerry wrote: > I started buying exotica in the late 80s when no one else >was buying, and then after college, I moved to >Nebraska, where there were shitloads of exotica / >lounge / moog / weird LPs just waiting for me. Yeah, those two statements sum it up for me. Plus, I travel a lot, without a laptop (just spent most of the week in NYC, ferinstance, where I spent time with Peter Thomas, who was visiting the US; I'll soon be off to Switzerland to do some work with him) and when I'm home I work about 18 hours a day, so I post quite infrequently because I just don't have the time. I've been on this list since close to its inception back in 1995 (I believe it had been around for about 3 months when I joined); when it started there were still a lot of discoveries of old recordings being made. I think at this point all the 'classics' have been rediscovered, and many are available again, either via bootleg or legit reissue. I rarely DJ lounge/exotica these days; most of my spinning is in the downtempo, breakbeat and deep house styles of music. And I hardly ever buy exotica/lounge records, because I picked up hundreds a decade ago and there's really not much left to find - - I do still look. I'm much more interested now in what to do with the influences of all this stuff to create new music, rather than just listen to a bunch of old records. That's what our mission was with Combustible Edison - to bring the lineage into the present and forward into the future. It's always encouraging to see new members here, to know that people are still picking up on these varied musical styles that fall under the 'exotica' musical umbrella. I feel, as the Millionaire once said, that 'we did our job'. That said, I'll share what's playing right now as I type this, which I think is amazing - "Pan Am : The Sound Of The 70's", by Yoshinori Sunahara. Bungalow Records 070. Brilliant mix of lounge sounds and downtempo grooves. 5 stars....a-fucking-mazing!!!!!!!!!!!, as Jack would have said years ago. And I hope all you DJ's played Arling & Cameron's brilliant '1999' (Emperor Norton 12") on New Years Eve. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) MP3... Date: 07 Jan 2000 23:17:49 -0800 >>Since this music had its heyday decades ago, how do the public domain laws affect it? >Very little of the music discussed on this list is likely to be public domain. Right now it's unclear whether making an MP3 counts as a personal use copy but it is clear that any distribution (passing it along to a friend, putting it on a website for others to download, etc) would be a copyright violation. I am no expert here, but in general public domain ends somewhere in the 1920's now. This means that if you have something copyrighted before that certain year in the 1920's...and this is an original something...no one can own the copyright on it. HOWEVER, if you take that something and reproduce it, that is a new creation. Thus, to reproduce a copy of the originally copyrighted material would be a violation of copyright. All that said, however, you still have to be careful about using older material. Unless something actually says "Public Domain" on it, as some very old song titles sometimes do, it helps to have some good research on your side to make sure no one else has control over it in some way. You may have heard Walt Disney's original Mickey Mouse films will soon be public domain. Disney is trying to get the law changed or at the very least round up every single copy of the films it can gets hands on so that no one else can reproduce them. Of course, the company knew this day would come and has worked to tighten controls on all of its productions. If anyone wants to eventually reproduce the public domain materials, Disney will try to make sure they will be from very poor copies and thus not commercially threatening. Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) burning idea Date: 08 Jan 2000 05:00:18 -0500 At 06:09 PM 1/7/00 -0600, bubblegum@newsguy.com wrote: > >No way is Tommy Roe "soft"! >I mean, "Jam Up and Jelly Tight"? >Tommy Roe is *bubblegum*. ;) Far be it from me to disagree about bubblegum with someone who has the word in their email address. Having said that, I do include some quasi-bubblegum cuts on my soft pop tapes. You can throw in certain cuts by the Ohio Express or The Archies or a few others and no one is the wiser. But it's harder to fit in anyone on Buddah. So I usually don't try. Bubblegum is different, I agree. I guess Tommy Roe is bubblegum. Maybe I should have said Chris Montez. But I think I could sneak a bit of Tommy onto a soft pop tape too. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) the list Date: 08 Jan 2000 05:13:49 -0500 At 01:50 AM 1/8/00 -0500, Br. Cleve wrote: >I think at this point all the 'classics' have been rediscovered, and many >are available again, either via bootleg or legit reissue. And I hardly ever buy >exotica/lounge records, because I picked up hundreds a decade ago and >there's really not much left to find - - I do still look. You know, I'd love to believe that someone - anyone - has found and/or heard it all. That would mean I could tell myself that I'd found and/or heard a significant percentage of it and then I could tell that part of me to go back to sleep. Truth is I haven't heard most of it but I'm already telling myself that I have. It's endless certainly but is it significantly endless? If you know what I mean. It's just curious that all these sorta jaded opinions are being shared at this moment that I'm trying to convince myself that I've OD'ed on the stuff. Still, the list doesn't have to be about your new discoveries. It can be about helping someone out with theirs and maybe in the process, discovering - or REdiscovering - a few things yourself. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) what do you call this stuff? Date: 08 Jan 2000 05:41:15 -0500 I'm looking for a term to describe that music which has become my main focus within the larger lounge/exotica world. I usually call it Now Sound - which I always capitalize for some reason - but I'm not sure that isn't a bit too specific. "Sixties lounge" would be a bit more general but it may be too general. I know this is just semantics but I still want to try and come up with the right words. Do you know the cut "Groovy Delivery Boy" on the Guess Who's Coming to Dinner soundtrack? Or the kind of instrumental cuts Stu Phillips did on his biker soundtracks? (They're not surf at all.) Or maybe you know the instrumental pieces in the soundtrack to Beyond the Valley of the Dolls. (Or is it "Beneath"? It's the one with the female rock band anyway.) Or Mancini's soundtrack for The Party. To me they have a similar feel to some of that Peter Thomas and Vampiros Lesbos stuff. Would you call that Now Sound too? Do you know the record "Boogaloo in Apartment 41" by Ozzie Torrens? It has a very "latin jazz" feel but I'd still include it in this genre I'm trying to name. Then I have this "Roy Budd plays Gilbert O'Sullivan" on electric piano with a few cuts that'll remind you of Fender Rhodes fake funky jazz. Then there're moog records and electric sitar records. And some Gabor Szabo. And the Corporation record. And of course, I'd like the genre to include the stuff that I specifically identify as Now Sound. Instrumental covers of sixties pop/rock hits from the most rockin stuff like Sandy Nelson and the Ventures to the semi-rockin like the Brass Ring to the usually-less-rockin-but-sometimes-really-rockin stuff like Hollyridge Strings or Fantabulous Strings or 101 Strings or Mike Curb. So what do you call this stuff I'm still looking for? (psychedelic lounge? rock/lounge? Now Lounge?) Semantic lounge? Nat? Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thinkmatic@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) what do you call this stuff? Date: 08 Jan 2000 08:51:10 EST In a message dated 01/08/2000 5:37:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, bruno@yhammer.com writes: << (psychedelic lounge? rock/lounge? Now Lounge?) Semantic lounge? Nat? >> I believe what you're talking about is officially called, "The Nat Sound" -Roy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Newbie here... Date: 08 Jan 2000 13:39:20 +0100 hi Josh, and welcome. to answer your question: visit The "eXotica Releases Overview": http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/ and look for items that got a +++++ rating, meaning: excellent. plenty of them around! Johan ----- JOSH wrote: > ....Could you recommend a few albums >(CD format would be nice, I dont have a record player) that would expand my >Exotica horizons? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Nitty Gritty Date: 08 Jan 2000 13:48:31 +0100 Mimi asked: >Is the fully manual NG 1.0 (manual application of fluid, manual brushing >and rotating during vacuuming, waste fluid plug on bottom) such a hassle to >use it would be worth my while to spend significantly more ($375) and go >for the NG 1.5 with automatic scrubbing and a slide-out waste fluid tray? No, unless you have to clean hundreds of records each week. and i have never had to empty the waste container, because the fluid just evaporates. Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thinkmatic@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) the list Date: 08 Jan 2000 09:27:22 EST In a message dated 01/08/2000 1:50:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, bcleve@pop.tiac.net writes: << I'm much more interested now in what to do with the influences of all this stuff to create new music, rather than just listen to a bunch of old records. >> Hey, some of us are just listeners. To be honest, it's all old music, even the new music. -R.G.B. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: RE: (exotica) Audio Learning Laboratory, New Twist Date: 08 Jan 2000 09:20:17 -0600 > But for a different example, look at all of the DJs on this list with live > and/or archived web-radio shows -- some are spinoffs of broadcast radio, > some are pure webcasts. And apparently quite legal (yet). > So why not a "Radio Free Exotica" webcast? This is a swell idea! I'd be more than happy to devote an episode of The Retro Cocktail Hour to "Radio Free Exotica", if anyone's interested. It would simply be a matter of my getting the tunes in some usable form--we can accomodate CD-R, MP3, .wav, DAT, cassette, etc. I could assemble the show and post it to our RealAudio site, as well as broadcast it locally on KANU (for any listees in our broadcast radius--are there any?). And I like the notion of rotating the responsibility around to all the DJs on the list. So consider this an open call to anyone and everyone on the list. If there's something you'd like to hear on a "Radio Free Exotica" show, contact me off-list about the specifics and let's start gathering the tunes! I can post the "playlist in progress" periodically and as soon as we have enough for a full show, I'll put it on our site. I might even be able to burn a limited number of CDs of the finished product for interested Exoticats. BTW, this week's Retro Cocktail Hour includes a tune by Project Pimento, which I learned about on this list. I visited the site and burned a CD-R to use on the show. Thanks for the space! Darrell Brogdon dbrogdon@ukans.edu The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU Radio Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retrolisten.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HEDCANDY@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Trading Mixes... 3 crap shattering titles Date: 08 Jan 2000 11:10:31 EST I'll throw my fez into this mix dealy. I will do 2 for 1 blanks CDR trades. Here are three CDR mixes I have concocted. Some contain previously released tracks, others are quite obscure. Some songs are even repeated between titles... The NOW! Sound (1 Disc) "Your FAVORITE hits of TODAY as performed by some of the best..." You know the pitch. This disc is a personal favorite, especially Light My Fire, Good Morning Starshine and Hazy Shade Of Winter. 1. MR. TAMBOURINE MAN - WILLIAM SHATNER 2. GET BACK - ENOCH LIGHT 3. LIGHT MY FIRE - ENOCH LIGHT 4. CALIFORNIA DREAMIN' - DAVID McCALLUM 5. WHOLE LOTTA LOVE - BOBBY SHAD 6. HOUSE OF RISING SUN - HERBIE MANN 7. HAPPY TOGETHER - HUGO MONTENEGRO 8. TIME OF THE SEASON - 'LECTRIC WOODS 9. INDEX 10. STRAWBERRY FIELDS - STARDRIVE 11. LOVE THE ONE YOU'RE WITH - MYSTIC MOODS ORCHESTRA 12. BLOWIN' IN THE WIND - BOB & PHIL ORCHESTRA 13. LAY LADY LAY - HUGO MONTENEGRO 14. HURDY GURDY MAN - JOHNNY ARTHEY 15. AQUARIUS - JAMES LAST 16. HAIR - DON KIRSHNER 17. GOOD MORNING STARSHINE - SOUNDS GALACTIC 18. I CAN SEE FOR MILES - LORD SITAR 19. PINBALL WIZARD - BOBBY SHAD 20. HAZY SHADE OF WINTER - HUGO MONTENEGRO 21. BALLAD OF EASY RIDER - FERRANTE & TEICHER 22. MONDAY MONDAY - BRASS RING VERY BAD MUSIC VOLUME 1 These tunes make peoples skin crawl.. and for good reason! That's why, of course, they're included here as some of my favorites. 1. Mother - Mr. T 2. John Shaft - Sammi Davis Jr. 3. Who Loves You Baby? - Telly Savalas 4. Teri, The Security Director - L. Ron Hubbard 5. Fly, Yar Warriors Fly - Yar's Revenge Orch. 6. INDEX TRACK 7. Lapti Nek - Dance Mix from Return Of The Jedi 8. Cantina Band - Electric Moog Orch. 9. Friday The 13th Part III Theme - Harry Manfredini 10. Just A Closer Walk With Thee - Geraldine And Ricky 11. Mr. T's Commandment - Mr. T 12. The Fonz Song - The Sound Effects 13. Movin' On Up - Boots Randolph 14. Pop Goes The Weasel - Anthony Newley 15. The Candyman - Anthony Newley 16. Your Cheatin' Heart - Bill "Candyman" Kehr 17. Mr. Tambourine Man - William Shatner 18. Lay Lady Lay - Hugo Montenegro 19. Don't Talk To Strangers - Mr. T 20. The Drone - L. Ron Hubbard 21. Close Encounters Of The 3rd Kind Theme - MECO VERY BAD MUSIC VOLUME 2 Yet another collection of beloved favorites, butchered like so much mead... Also includes what could become a new genre amongst us collectors "stereotypical poser rock". IE: the band tries SO hard for rock god credibility... they don't realize how low they've sunk. Two examples here come from New Wave stalwarts A Flock Of Seagulls and Gary Numan 1. Fixing A Hole - George Burns 2. Come Together - Robin Williams / Bobby McFerrin 3. Setting Sun - Flock Of Seagulls 4. 1999 - Gary Numan 5. I Can't Stop Lovin' You - Gil Trythall 6. You've Lost That Lovin Feelin' - Telly Savalas 7. Like,Young - Perry Como 8. Downtown - Frank Sinatra 9. Light My Fire - Enoch Light 10. Toughest Man In The World - Mr. T 11. Star Trek Theme - Ferrante & Teicher 12. It Was A Very Good Year - William Shantner 13. Feelings - Arnie Aka Nui 14. Bennie & The Jets - Biz Markie 15. Southern Nights - Boots Randolph 16. Bringing In The Sheaves - Mike Curb 17. Joy To The World - Hugo Montenegro 18. I've Got A Golden Ticket - Anthony Newley 19. When I'm Five - David Bowie 20. My Way - Hugo Montenegro 21. Fonz Impressionist Track # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) burning idea Date: 08 Jan 2000 11:13:11 EST In a message dated 1/7/0 9:24:37 PM, bubblegum@newsguy.com wrote: >No way is Tommy Roe "soft"! >I mean, "Jam Up and Jelly Tight"? >Tommy Roe is *bubblegum*. ;) Untrue my friend...spit out the gum and listen up! You need to locate a copy of "Phantasy" immediately. Hear Tommy join the Golden Protest Bandwagon as only Tommy can! Listen as he bemoans the "Plastic World" in which we live. Hear him recount his "Paisley Dreams". Nod knowingly as he sings of the transgressions of "The Executive". Empathize as he shares his "Melancholy Mood". And allow your third eye (even if its blind in the New Year) to share the "Visions" of his "Mystic Magic". The cover shows Tommy in a balloon-filled playground standing atop a circular slide with hippie-frocked children looking up at him from various positions on the slide. Tommy is soft rock/pop here at its finest.....Trust me....Jimmy Botticelli/"Its Now Winter's Day" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) the list Date: 08 Jan 2000 11:37:40 EST >bcleve@pop.tiac.net writes: ><< I'm much more interested now in what to do with the influences of all this >stuff to > create new music, rather than just listen to a bunch of old records. >> I have to give the Bro' his credit on this one. During the late 8T's I exhausted soul music in much the same way. I found almost EVERY significant non-hit soul 45 (and it is a world of 45's and I own over 3000 of them) over a 10 year period that meant something to the sound I was pursuing..ie. vocal groups with lush orchestral backing. Then along came the digital "revolution" . The vocals got pushed to the back of the sound and the sound was lost to me. The English (god bless them) tried to revive it in the late 8T's and early 9T's with the Soul To Soul movement, The Chimes, and all Ian Levine's efforts. House would occasionally have some good group efforts...Blaze for example. But all I could do to satisfy my thirst was dig up more and more 6T's and 7T's sounds. Finally, SPLOINK (rip, Don martin), I'd had it. A couple of years came by and along came "Lounge"> I got into the instruumental side of things thanks to some good coaching (after all, vocal GROUPS was my thing). And now it is starting to feel like I'm nearing the end although I have nothing but my own gut with which to verify that. So I think moving forward, going ahead and combining elements to create new music is a good thing. My ears just have to let it in. ...Jimmy Botticelli/dismounting the pulpit now # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek Subject: (exotica) Meeting my obligation Date: 08 Jan 2000 17:38:38 +0100 nytab@pipeline.com wrote: > All who haven't previously done so may meet their obligation now. > Yep, it's Exotica Amnesty 2000! Whoops... > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Yes, I am. I play the piano and other keyboards. I even played with the idea of becoming a professional musician and/or piano teacher. It all went horribly wrong of course... > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? La Musique qui fait Popp, the infamous CD of André Popp compositions played by the Metropole Orchestra. > 3. This list could help you more by... I like it the way it is. > 4. Other exotica/things you collect I love books just as much as I love records. I have a modest collection of books by Dutch mystery writer Havank. And I have THREE vintage radios. Does that count? > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Lots of 'em... Frank Zappa, Captain Beefheart, Bob Dylan, Beck, Velvet Underground, Charlie Mingus, Sun Ra, Thelonious Monk, John Coltrane, The Beatles, Prince, ethnic music, folk, etc., etc. > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? I am in love. > 7. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Nope. > 8. Shaken/stirred? On the rocks. Marco -- Marco "Kallie" Kalnenek +------------------------------------------+ Record Collector's Heaven http://weirdomusic.freeservers.com/ +------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek Subject: Re: (exotica) the list Date: 08 Jan 2000 17:38:43 +0100 Nat Kone wrote: > It's just curious that all these sorta jaded opinions are being shared at > this moment that I'm trying to convince myself that I've OD'ed on the stuff. One thing that no one has mentioned yet, but that's very relevant for me: I'm not listening to Exotica constantly. There's so much other music that I like. For example, I can listen to jazz for weeks, without ever playing an easy or rock record. And then suddenly I can go crazy over Esquivel or André Popp again. I guess this works the same way for other people on the list. What I'm trying to say is: there are times when I read all the posts on this list and feel like responding to them. At other times I delete all the things that don't seem interesting. And one other thing: I bet there are plenty of lurkers around who just enjoy reading other peoples comments and don't feel like writing about their finds. Marco -- Marco "Kallie" Kalnenek +------------------------------------------+ Record Collector's Heaven http://weirdomusic.freeservers.com/ +------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) Brass Ring remix Date: 08 Jan 2000 08:53:52 PST Hey all, just got through listening to Thinkmatic's fantastically remixed rendition of "Dis-advantages of You" by the Brass Ring. A fantasticaly recycled tune indeed. Dancefloor approved!! I recommend that you folks take a listen to see what one can do with a bit of wit and some software. Mr Bodner would indeed be proud. heres that url again! http://members.aol.com/thinkmatic/disadv1x.mp3 -jonathan ps wasnt this song originally used in a cigarette ad in the 60's. Benson and Hedges perhaps? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: (exotica) exotica questionaire Date: 08 Jan 2000 12:14:00 -0500 Well, everyone, this should be interesting, seeing this filled out in a similarly confessional manner by the rest of youse... 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Yes, was professional 20+ years... twisted old-time/bluegrass and undefinable rock band. Main instruments: fiddle and bass in Wretched Refuse String Band, theremin in Citizen Kafka Band. For years was the only union theremin player, now plenty of pros... career highlights: theremin soloist with major symphony orchestra at Lincoln Center NYC performing Spellbound Concerto. String Band: through booking mistake, my string band ends up being BB King's back-up band. I'm on electric bass that day... not comfortable, so i ask Charlie Mingus (in front row) to sit in... his response? "i don't play guitar." Fired from broadway show by John Houseman for insulting him musically on stage while he's receiving a mayor's reward (i start playing Donkey Serenade behind ceremony). My string band (and rock band) composed of real good nyc string nuts, like andy statman, tony trischka, ken kosek, etc. Oh yeah, we opened a very straight bluegrass show (Allison Krauss, Nashville Bluegrass Band and us) and did a bluegrass rap song with a 350 pound blond Austrian guy in a skintight pink body stocking and a Madonna headmic singing "I'm a pink thing." 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? I'm confessing- i'm not strictly a genre type of guy, and i can't sign on to the "this" in this question. Been listening and accumulating for 40+ years, saw and heard many of the new 'finds' when they were first out, most of them were lame then and only a little better now. It's the real obscure records with hot music that light my fire. 3. This list could help you more by... so far so good. a little sad to see the natural progression of any internet list, loss of great participants through attrition, etc. 4. Other exotica/things you collect i only accumulate; collecting is for more retentive types. outsider art (don't get me started about defining this in public), flyers/posters/handouts/books/other stuff by psychotics, hashi oki (chopstick rests)... 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like: everything. seriously. collection dates back to 1890... 6. What are you just dying to tell us? i've blabbed enough. 7. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? several. various freemason/shriner types, mostly old (1900-1940's). the usual, funny names, gold braid, etc. Loungewear? Silk deep gray shadow striped knee length kimono (real one), and a great midnight blue satin ankle length robe. Also a good collection of 1960's cheap colognes, and more contemporary very cheap aftershaves. 8. Shaken/stirred? can't drink - narcotics don't mix well with booze... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) greetings Date: 08 Jan 2000 09:24:15 PST Hi, im not new to the list in fact I have been on it since 1997 or so, however, I was never so inclined to fill one of these forms out till now. >1. Are you a musician? Explain... Most definitely. Bass is my passion, however, as of late I have been diving deep into the realm of the digital and creating songs using old records, radio transmissions, found sounds, old synths, whistles, organs (not the bodily ones), TV's, and whatever else I can find that makes a noise, put them all into a sampler and make the biggest racket one can possibly ever make. Actually it sound pretty neat. >2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Two words for you. Enoch Light. Actually I first started collecting this "exotica" solely for the album covers, especially the ones on Command and Project 3. i just love the thick waxy gatefold covers and the simple design on the covers. Then slowly started listening to the music, then came Denny, Baxter etc. I started finding more and more and the madness just will not stop. I have close to 3000 or more records. I rarely if at all buy CDs because if I wait long enough I will eventually find it on LP, and probably only for 25cents. (Im a cheap-o like that) >3. This list could help you more by... I couldnt think of anything that would help me more by this list. i just love it, whether im just lurking or putting in my 2 cents or just learning about all music and things "exotica". The passion for it on this list overwhelms me. Keep it up guys!! >4. Other exotica/things you collect Of course Tiki mugs, got hundreds, its sick! ( plug for a pal's site if interested http://www.tikimug.com ) Anything with a tiki on it Matchbooks, swizzle sticks, menus from exotic restaurants, books, old magazines, especially old hot rod mags. Furniture from by-gone days, mid-century modern etc. Vintage electronic things. so much!! >5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Jazz, vintage electronic, Andalusian nose-flute music, you know--- what ever captures my ear at the moment. etc etc etc. >6. What are you just dying to tell us? That I love you all. >7. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or >other lounge-wear of which you are proud? No fez, but I have a smoking robe and all my clothes are lounge-wear. My only clothes that arent vintage are my socks and underwear. >8. Shaken/stirred? shaken. I love to do a little mambo dance while shaking it. cha-cha-cha ! thank you, I finally got that out of my system. Whew! -jonathan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lang Thompson Subject: Re: (exotica) MP3... Date: 08 Jan 2000 13:06:05 -0500 >1920's now. This means that if you have something copyrighted before that >certain year in the 1920's...and this is an original something...no one can >own the copyright on it. HOWEVER, if you take that something and reproduce >it, that is a new creation. Thus, to reproduce a copy of the originally >copyrighted material would be a violation of copyright. Not exactly. Copyright lasts for the life of the author plus a certain number of years afterwards (75 currently but material this old will vary depending on how the statute revision affected it and whether it was renewed, something no longer required) with provisions for work-for-hire or corporately owned work. As for a copy of public domain work: the work is still public domain and anybody can copy that copy. What you may be thinking about is that the copy might be protected by copyright if it has some original (a term of art) presentation. So while "David Copperfield" is public domain and you can publish it anyway you want, you can't take a Penguin or Bantam paperback and duplicate that (Penguin or Bantam's presentation is copyrightable). Or the early Caruso recordings may be public domain but you can't just grab an RCA CD and run off CD-Rs of that (though the confusing part is that you can make a CD identical in content to the RCA one with no copyright violation as long as you do it directly from the original sources--78s or whatever). The point for this list is that as long as you have true public domain recordings you can copy (from the original) and distribute to your heart's content. Though for most things from the 30s/40s and almost everything 50s and after that's still under copyright the current law allows you to make a copy for personal use (and MP3s probably count but that's not clear) but if you trade it, give it away or even just let somebody borrow it you're violating the copyright. LT Full Alert Film Review http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/fafr.htm Funhouse http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/funhouse.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) the list Date: 08 Jan 2000 14:20:20 -0500 At 5:13 AM -0500 1/8/00, Nat Kone wrote: >You know, I'd love to believe that someone - anyone - has found and/or >heard it all. That would mean I could tell myself that I'd found and/or >heard a significant percentage of it and then I could tell that part of me >to go back to sleep. I think 'significant percentage' is the operative term here. When I first got into this, I was wroking at 2 used record stores and had a collection of Schwann catalogs from the 50's/60's that I would study endlessly. So at least as far as U.S. releases, I knew what was available out of a finite list (dealing specifically in Exotica and Space Age Bach Pad, Moog and soundtracks). Between what would come into the store, what I'd find on my own, what I'd hear at my friends homes, or what I'd hear DJ's play while out on the road for 6 years with ComEd, I truly believe I heard at least 99.9% of the records that had been pressed. When you get into the Now Sound (and yes, Nat, I'd use that term to describe all of what that), it gets much wider in scope, if only because the record companies began to release much more product by the late 60's. I spent some time at the new breed of used record stores this week in New York, the ones that sell no rock or pop music, only jazz, funk, hip hop, now sound, soundtracks and latin. There are hundreds of Now Sound type records in these stores, usually grouped together under the headers 'samples' or 'beats', and with very high price tags - because they contain a drum break or phrase that would be usable in hip hop/dance track (or has already been used, making it desireable to get the original break, as there are people who collect those as well as those who use them in a sampler). As far as the 'easy' end of Now Sound spectrum, I kept seeing the same records over and over, a great many of which I knew (70's Ferrante & Teicher, Percy Faith, Moe Kauffman, etc); you also keep seeing the same songs over and over. But that doesn't mean you don't run across a new twist - just a couple of weeks ago a friend played me Galt MacDermot's "First Natural Hair Band". How many versions of songs from "Hair" have I heard? (I saw the fucking show in 1969 fer chissakes). But it was fantastic -- and I'd never seen the record before. (I did see it in NY for $40). And if you move into the jazz/funk spectrum there's a whole new can of worms. Much of it is generic, some of it great. Ever heard The Silhouettes? There's a couple of tracks by them on one of the Italian Mood Mosaic bootlegs. The same friend (who owns 2 used record stores) got that in a collection he bought. Great record, funky jazz combo on a one off label out of Pittsburgh from 1970; great Mancini track on it, lots of wordless vocals and ba-ba-bap scatting. Of course the thing is super rare, so he put a $100+ price tag on it. Was it worth that much to me? Nah, but I'm glad I heard it. >Truth is I haven't heard most of it but I'm already telling myself that I >have. Truth is you probably have. It's all just variations on a theme after awhile; knowing what's best seems to come from hearing so much of it that you can seperate the bullshit from the steak. Specific titles that excell get acknowledged by a number of people. "Groovy Delivery Boy" on the Guess Who's Coming to Dinner is a good example. I had just picked that record up, without hearing it but seeing that title - and a $2.99 price tag ; then it got written about on the list a day or so later. I bought Moe Kauffman's "Turned On" a day before someone (Roy?) reccomended it. There's still some things to find, and there's still folks finding it near simultaneously - - something this list has always (weirdly) excelled at. >Still, the list doesn't have to be about your new discoveries. It can be >about helping someone out with theirs and maybe in the process, discovering >- or REdiscovering - a few things yourself. True - and one can at least point folks in the right direction to the great sites that have sprung up since the (r)evolution of the Cocktail Nation -- Johan, Robbie, Kini, Brad, the old Joe Holmes and Vic sites; and of course they can actually hear a lot of this stuff, thanks to Darrell and now The Millionaire at Luxuriamusic. And I'm always grateful to Chuck for his commentaries on the new electropop coming out of Tokyo, Madrid, Paris, etc; and to everyone who keeps the continually expanding world of exotica moving in countless directions, whether others think it fits or not.. That's why I haven't unsubscribed after all these years. Oh yeah, and I like the obits, but don't ask me why. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cliché" Subject: Re: (exotica) greetings Date: 08 Jan 2000 21:11:53 +0100 > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... My job is being a musician. Theaters, films, cartoons, TV-radio jingles, my own music and music with friends (the formations). But my answer is no, I usually say that I'm a home made musician. I started with a big Bosendorfer, and later as it would always go... Then fuyara (Morvaian), tilinko (pipe) and reeds (saxes, clarinet etc) now I'm building a theremin. Now I love playing everything, especially free, cool jazz, funny stuff, contemporary. Now my favourite is an old Toneking tenor sax, which sounds better then a golden Selmer. > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? The first one was John Keaton : Space experience. The Unknow Planet is a really good one. I wish to play it on a singing-saw in the future. It is quite difficult to collect records in Hungary. But the difficulties of it make me mad :-) I have records from Bikini to Zorn. > 3. This list could help you more by... finding record stores reasonably close to Hungary. Facts, nu staff, tips, finding music partners.. > 4. Other exotica/things you collect instruments, films (Tetsuo, Captain Pirx - this one is an old Hungarian TV series with perfect salt-cellar spaceships and things like those etc), 8mm films (we have no TV), slide-films (I think that is a traditional Hungarian stuff, when you project a dia-positive series of pictures which can help you give up smoking, or can tell you the story of little red riding hood, other cool things from Sokol radio up to the homemade Russian Vulcan-lamps. > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like free, classical, no wave, experimental... > > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? The thing which I've never found anywhere else is your unselfishness, which is amazing. Here (in Hungary) most people don't share information, not even the copies of their records. AAAA! I have been looking for you for 30 years... > 7. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? No fez, I'm a vegetarian! Some hand made painted shirts from Bali, the scarf with blue penguins, clothes that I made. Didgeridoo was made by Laura (She is the One!) > 8. Shaken/stirred? black: Living deads, the powerlessness. white: Alive people. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: (exotica) greetings and questionaire Date: 08 Jan 2000 15:18:21 -0500 Doh, thanks for reminding me... i also used to produce and write tv commercials, cartoon sound tracks, and bumpers and such. Nick at Nite had a spitload of great 10 second network i.d.s which were proto 50's jingles... i wrote and produced a bunch of those, plus a few other things that some of you may have seen but i ain't telling (too "commercial"). just shows what slips out of the brain storage! ck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring back... Date: 08 Jan 2000 15:49:52 -0500 Nat wrote: >But I'm sure you've picked up the odd better-than-average thing. Share. Oh golly. . . The LP on the top of the stack at Casa Mambo this month is Xavier Cugat's _Bang Bang_ (Decca)--a record that unfortunately, I'm finding it a little hard to describe. It's nothing like Cugat's earlier LPs (generally bland IMHO). . . not really identifiably latin, either. . . Just a sort of wonderfully warped quality when one of our old-school exotica lifers gets into Now Sound/Twist/TJB/Bossa-Lounge territory. Absolutely wonderful cover photo, a go-go Femme Fatale menacing you with her ray gun. There's just something delightfully overblown about it. It's seems to be recorded on some cavernous soundstage or something. The drum lines in particular have this immense fatness that has really grown on me. There are a lot of great organ bits here, little sonar blips and whatnot. Funky fat guitars. You hear somebody in the band coughing in the middle of the Jobim number. There's generally kind of an agreeable sloppiness to it all, like everyone was kind of winging it. Plus, it has among the universe's oddest covers of "These Boots Are Made For Walking" and "Charade." Enjoy! --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jschwart@voicenet.com Subject: (exotica) copyright myths Date: 08 Jan 2000 15:58:50 On 7 Jan 2000 23:17:49 -0800, bag@hubris.net wrote about copyright. Almost everything in that post is simply not true. I have spent time on old movie newsgroups, and working in a recording studio, and I have never heard so much erroneous streetcorner wisdom passed around as fact as with copyright law. That said, it is ever changing and I no longer keep totally on top of it. However: >I am no expert here, but in general public domain ends somewhere in the 1920's now. Copyright law changed throughout the century; thus, the life of the copyright depends on when it was created, if and when it was registered, and if it was renewed. Originally, copyright lasted 28 years, renewable for a second 28 year period if the owner bothered to do so within a one year period. Therefore, there are many works which lapsed into public domain from well after the 1920s. This happened often when a company went out of business and nobody bothered to claim their assets. It also happened with major corporations who let a few of their holdings fall through the cracks. >This means that if you have something copyrighted before that certain year in the 1920's...and this is an original something...no one can own the copyright on it. HOWEVER, if you take that something and reproduce it, that is a new creation. Thus, to reproduce a copy of the originally copyrighted material would be a violation of copyright. This is a ridiculous concept and absoultely not true. Anyone can freely copy anyone's copy of a public domain work. A new CD of old recordings of Sousa marches is NOT a new creation (though the packaging may be, and is alone protected). If the new version was somehow changed (i.e., a trip-hop mix with sampled Sousa marches), it MAY qualify for a new copyright, however. >All that said, however, you still have to be careful about using older material. Unless something actually says "Public Domain" on it, as some very old song titles sometimes do, it helps to have some good research on your side to make sure no one else has control over it in some way. This is good advice, except that I wouldn't trust any information on a record label as proof that something was or was not public domain. Many bootleg records give fake addresses. Some independent labels do not give songwriter or publishing credits in hopes that they can avoid paying mechanical royalties for the compositions. >You may have heard Walt Disney's original Mickey Mouse films will soon be public domain. Disney is trying to get the law changed or at the very least round up every single copy of the films it can gets hands on so that no one else can reproduce them. Of course, the company knew this day would come and has worked to tighten controls on all of its productions. If anyone wants to eventually reproduce the public domain materials, Disney will try to make sure they will be from very poor copies and thus not commercially threatening. This would have been true of only the earliest Mickey Mouse films. Later copyrights would not have been affected by the first one going p.d. And Disney surely knows they can never round up every copy (such as video tapes they themselves sold of early cartoons). Anyway, the law was already changed, and was known as the Sonny Bono bill after the late congressman who initiated it. All copyrights were (in my opinion, unwisely) extended. I forget all the details but a good web search will provide the facts. It is possible that there will never again be a concept of public domain for anything that hasn't already become p.d.; in the meantime at least 20 years were added to the life of all old copyrights. On Sat, 08 Jan 2000 13:06:05 -0500, Lang Thompson wrote: >Or the early Caruso recordings may be public domain but you can't just grab an RCA CD and run off CD-Rs of that (though the confusing part is that you can make a CD identical in content to the RCA one with no copyright violation as long as you do it directly from the original sources--78s or whatever). Sure you can copy it. It makes no difference what you use for source material. Even if RCA spent ten billion dollars to digitally remove pops and clicks, that is not copyrightable work. Just don't use their new cover art or liner notes. Of course, none of this matters unless you get caught breaking these laws. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: (exotica) who is ademus? Date: 08 Jan 2000 16:17:07 -0500 Hi all, did i wish you happy new year yet?? been posting a lot, don't remember... Found a great record, Latin favorites in Percussion, by Ademus and his percussionists. Hot percussion and some great horn players! Also, sounds like more than one band; one with a mild charlie parker style altoist, one with several great players (better recorded). any hints? Oh, forgot, Acorn records 655... any help would be great on this one. ck -- Citizen Kafka, Producer, "The Secret Museum of the Air" NEW!: every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM & WXHD (Hudson Valley) 90.1 FM http://www.megasaver.com/page2/smradio.html http://wfmu.org/ then go to 'listen to wfmu' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: RE: (exotica) Fringeware/you are goin' to hell, but I mean that in a nice way Date: 08 Jan 2000 15:59:58 -0500 Ron raved (but gently for soothe) >http://fringeware.com/~melba/catalog.html > >Holy Fuggin' MOLY!!!! What a great site!!! Chock full-o-must-haves. > >Alas, it is CLOSED... No worky. 800 number is D.O.A. Yass yass, twas a sad day this fall when Fringeware bit the dust, another casualty in the Austin, City on the Move saga. The dark underbelly of living in a Techy Mecca Tex-Mex-spiced slacker theme park with 100 newcomers a week, to crib a line from me hubby. On a related note, anyone know of a good source of weird Pope stuff? All I have are my Pope John Paul shield earrings and would LUV to expand the collection. Unrelatedly, thx Johan, for the comment on the Nitty Gritty. Very helpful! Am proud to say I've never cleaned hundreds of anything a week. Luvin' de list, Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HEDCANDY@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Survey & ? for Brother Cleve Date: 08 Jan 2000 17:02:05 EST Brother Cleve, Is Combustible Edison still in existence? Any new album planned? Here's my survey... > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... No... I am more just a connoisuer (sp?). I do own synths and dawdle in ambient. I also have a Kahn"ecletci Band" organ with a pre-set drum setting call "Teen-Beat" and sounds titled "buzzsaw". > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Esquivel's - Space Age Bachelor Pad CD Frank Sinatra 4 CD Capitol Years Santo & Johnny's debut LP I now collect just about everything discussed here. Two of my favorite LP's... Ebony Godfather - Moog Fluting and Geraldine and Ricky - A Religious ventriloquist act... priceless. Also love Warren Barker, Mancini, Moog, Bad Actors singing, Weirdo Beatles covers, Space Disco, Down Tempo / Right Tempo music. > 3. This list could help you more by... Paying my rent... > 4. Other exotica/things you collect Just Lp's and CD's... Used to be into the furniture scene but that just became to... "bulky" and or expensive (like collecting wax is not) > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Cocteau Twins, Slowdive, Devo, 80's New Wave, Coletrane, Vince Guaraldi, Pet Shop Boys,Yello, Ambient, Bill Evans, Al Gromer Khan, Angelo Badalamenti > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? Be the same or be different... it just doesn't matter. > 7. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Maroon. Says EGYPT in big ass rhinestones. Also sword and half moon in rhinestones Gold trim. Gold plated tutahnkhamen on the front. Jet black 16" tassle w/ ANOTHER rhinestone "Hassan CHOP" sword. Min condition. I keep it in my specially forged fez container with the zipper and a handle. > 8. Shaken/stirred? Pureed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HEDCANDY@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Sukia Date: 08 Jan 2000 17:03:54 EST This may have been done to death... but has the band Sukia been mentioned here? I only found a copy of the CD this year (it was released in 1996) and it is my favorite album of the year. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) Do I detect some rust? Date: 09 Jan 2000 09:40:59 +1100 Interesting to read that some of the most prominent and informed members of this list feel they've 'seen it all' a long time ago and lament the fact. I've found that the musical realm is truly bottomless; that one tip or discovery can send one off into capillaries never explored. That restless curiosity has never failed me in 20 years of almost frenzied exploration (I'm 36). Only when I have focussed obsessively on one genre have I felt the rust form, and spreading out into other areas keeps me squeaky clean. The world of music is far too massive. No-one can convince me that 'all has been conquered.' A few months back I got back into 78's, and discovered to my delight that huddled in the stacks I was able to find self-made 'acetates', usually recorded in booths, of people singing or joking around (kind of the predecessor to photo-booths). It drove home that there are micro-genres within that always lay just out of reach. My interests in another 20 years will be as different and varied as ever. I have no reason to doubt it. Cheers, Keith ******************************* http://www.lobue-art.com The Artwork and Workshops of Keith E. Lo Bue ******************************* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Survey & ? for Brother Cleve Date: 08 Jan 2000 17:52:31 -0500 At 5:02 PM -0500 1/8/00, HEDCANDY@aol.com wrote: >Brother Cleve, >Is Combustible Edison still in existence? Any new album planned? there's never been an official announcement, but......the answer to both questions is 'no'. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) Cugat Bang Bang Date: 08 Jan 2000 17:59:58 -0500 At 03:49 PM 1/8/00 -0500, Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr wrote: >Oh golly. . . > >The LP on the top of the stack at Casa Mambo this month is Xavier >Cugat's _Bang Bang_. . . Just a sort of wonderfully >warped quality when one of our old-school exotica lifers gets into >Now Sound/Twist/TJB/Bossa-Lounge territory. Absolutely wonderful >cover photo, a go-go Femme Fatale menacing you with her ray gun. > >There's just something delightfully overblown about it. I agree. This is a great record. And the curious thing is that I was almost sure it wouldn't be. I've had other Cugat records where you're pretty sure he wasn't around when they made it and while they had their moments, they didn't "come together" like this one. Actually there are moments on this that make you think Cugat might have been around for it, though I don't think you'd yell "This must be Cougat" if you heard it coming from the next room. I was pretty sure this would suck, by the way, mostly because I SO didn't want it to. With that mod spygirl cover, I just figured it would have to be a disappointment and then I'd have to sweat over keeping it for the cover or getting rid of it "for the music". My favourite cut is the title cut, a Sonny and Cher thing which I'm not sure I knew that well in the first place but which is practically unrecognizable here anyway. I have no vocabulary for talking about drumming but the drumming here is "wack"! Then there's the spyjazz guitar sound and the part where they break into a hora. See? I'm actually playing a record. I almost never do that and I haven't played THIS in over a year. I wish I could say "If you like this, try that one" but I can't compare it to anything. Which is a good thing I guess. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) the list Date: 08 Jan 2000 18:00:05 -0500 At 11:37 AM 1/8/00 EST, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > So I think moving >forward, going ahead and combining elements to create new music is a good >thing. My ears just have to let it in. Well I don't think I have to point out that combining elements to create new music has been going on... forever almost. It's combining elements from actual records that's sorta new. (Yes I know about "collage" but it's happening on a scale like never before.) I love this idea. I had a blast taking part in the sampling process for my film's soundtrack. (Now forget you heard that.) If I had musical aspirations or talent or the right equipment, I could see this becoming a huge obsession. I think one reason I don't listen to much of this "new" music is because I haven't really heard much that sounds like it was made in that spirit. In other words, you hear that the artist - or DJ - dipped into a huge eclectic record collection to make his/her CD but when you hear it, it's more of the same. You don't get chunks of sampled riffs; all you get are blips and bleeps in the midst of beats. So if anyone would like to guess what I'm referring to and to provide a nice list of stuff I would be happy with, I'd be happy with that. I think the other reason I don't buy many of them is because basically there are a couple of stores here who carry stuff like that and if I wanted them, the process would involve going to those stores weekly and asking "You got any more of that stuff you know I like?" Or frequenting CDNow. I used to be like that but I haven't been for a while. Maybe when I get busier and richer - will this be the year?? - I'll move to that method of acquisition. Does anyone have some kinda explanation for this Now Sound/ E-Z soundtrack sampling phenomenon? (It's probably not as big as it seems to someone who doesn't pay that much attention to it.) It IS curious though, I must say. I hate to bring up "postmodernism" or Tarantino or Eno or Burroughs' cut-up technique or something about baby boomers but I just find it really really strange that this is happening. I'll leave y'all alone for the weekend now. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) exotica questionaire Date: 08 Jan 2000 18:00:08 -0500 At 12:14 PM 1/8/00 -0500, Citizen Kafka wrote: > > Main instruments: >fiddle and bass in Wretched Refuse String Band, theremin in Citizen >Kafka Band. For years was the only union theremin player, >. My string band (and rock band) >composed of real good nyc string nuts, like andy statman, tony trischka, >ken kosek, etc. Putting two and two together, I have to ask whether you ever played theremin in a klezmer band? By the way, did you see Jon Stewart's Late Show "end of the millenium show"? I thought of you at the end when they had a guy onstage with They Might be Giants actually recording a cylinder with them. I even waited to see the credits to see if it was you up there. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) the list Date: 08 Jan 2000 18:00:01 -0500 At 02:20 PM 1/8/00 -0500, Br. Cleve wrote: > > >When you get into the Now Sound (and yes, Nat, I'd use that term to >describe all of what that), Oh thank you. Pheew. > I spent some time at the new breed of used record stores this week in New >York, the ones that sell no rock or pop music, only jazz, funk, hip hop, >now sound, soundtracks and latin. There are hundreds of Now Sound type >records in these stores, usually grouped together under the headers >'samples' or 'beats', and with very high price tags - because they contain >a drum break or phrase that would be usable in hip hop/dance track (or has >already been used, making it desireable to get the original break, as there >are people who collect those as well as those who use them in a sampler). The first thing I have to say is that, having spent some time in a used record store last summer, I still find it amazing that so many "kids" are MORE interested in finding a sample that's already been used than they are in finding one that hasn't. And that they're willing to spend big bucks for an already-used one when they can find a potential one for next to nothing. It makes sense. That's the world. There are originators and there are sheep. But it's still curious that the message they would take from "the sampling revolutions" is "Go out and find the samples I already found". I have a few questions though... Are "they" really sampling bits that are unique to Now Sound records? I was always told it's more like a drum break from a Seals n Crofts record - or Bob James - and not a whole "riff" per se... Speaking of which I think I actually spotted a sample this week. There's this repeated acoustic piano flourish all over DJ Shadow's first big CD. I think it's from Stan Freeman's version of "Gentle Rain" on his Project 3 record. Hard to believe that I'm right but it sounds right. Anyone confirm or deny? I'm going to ask my other questions somewhere else. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: Re: (exotica) Sukia Date: 08 Jan 2000 23:15:22 -0000 HEDCANDY wrote: > This may have been done to death... but has the band Sukia been mentioned > here? Yes! > I only found a copy of the CD this year (it was released in 1996) and it is > my favorite album of the year. It's a crazy album. But apparently Sukia are no more. However, I know of at least three side projects which may or not be still on the go: Sukpatch Volume All Stars DJ Me DJ You http://www.emperornorton.com/artists/dj_me_dj_you/index.html When I saw them support Stereolab here in the UK a couple of years ago, Sukia played some amazing new material not on the album and I'm wondering if that ever saw the light of day on a CD... Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thinkmatic@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Cugat Bang Bang Date: 08 Jan 2000 20:27:14 EST I have the previous 2 Cugat Decca releases, "Dance Party" 744740 & "Feeling Good" 74672 and their both great, in the scheme of Cugat. There's a Bond Theme on each and quite a few other good tunes. For me they seem very similar to other dance oriented Now Sound recordings like much of Ogerman's RCA dance albums and Enoch Light's "Discotheque" albums and some of his dancier Project 3 albums. I love them all. What other artists have this sound? Have you heard the Compilation CD from Cugie's 4 Decca records, it's called "Cugie A-Go-Go"? It's got the ray-gun toting go-go gal from "Bang Bang" on the cover and songs from the three albums we've mentioned plus Cugat's last "Cugat Today!" Decca 74831, which I'm looking for a copy of (anybody!!!) along with "Bang Bang". If any one would like to hear them, feel free to stop by my house and borrow either of the albums or the compilation CD, since me making you a duplicate might have unsavory legal repercussions. E-mail me to set up a time to drop in, I'll have some fresh baked cookies and tea ready for you. xoxoxo, -Roy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: (exotica) record habits Date: 08 Jan 2000 20:52:04 -0500 There's quite a variety of experiences on this list - from the newcomer who has only just bought his first Denny or Esquivel CD, to those musicians and those in the music business who have heard most everything out there. I've always been curious as to 'how' the people here listen to and handle their records. Do you listen to an entire side all the way through, or just test a couple of spots searching for some cool sound? Do you alphabetize or otherwise sort your records? Do you pare your collection down to a few essential LPs, or do you keep most of them? So, to start the ball rolling, here's a lengthy post to how I handle things (from a non-musician, non music industry related exotica fan) Ever since the first 'Incredibly Strange Music' book came out, I've been regularly going to thrift stores and buying old LPs. Now I find myself with thousands of records (most of them in typical thrift-store non-mint condition) I'm one of those who does not listen to them when I buy them.....instead I will randomly insert them into my ever growing 'unlistened to' collection, which now looks much like the cover of the Fat Boy Slim CD cover multiplied by a few times. Every so often I will grab the next 5 LPs in line and listen to a bit of each track ... and if I enjoy the sound, I'll put a song or two onto the end of a cassette tape I am slowly compiling. These tapes are are totally random - I don't have any themed 'Latin' tapes, or 'Mancini' tapes or 'Now Sound' tapes. These tapes will usually then accompany me whenever I make a long drive or road trip -- the variety and randomness are good for keeping my attention up while driving. After listening, the LPs with good tracks will go into a 'to save' section -- probably waiting for the day I buy a CD recorder. Some of the ones without any interesting cuts I will save anyway (if it has a cool cover graphic, or if i think my tastes will later change), but most of these will eventually be taken back to the thriftstore. I have gone as long as several months without pulling any records from my 'unlistened to' section, but I've done it enough times that I'm now working on my 20th tape .... and I still have thousands of unlistened to records to go. I buy records faster than I listen to them. I think that this is a part of my retirement plan -- knowing that as I get older, there will still be a source of music from the past to discover and listen to (those thrifts will dry up some day, after all). Some people put money into the stock market and IRAs and stuff like that hoping to build a nest egg for retirement...... well, part of my long term plan involves these records - not as a monetary collectible financial investment, but for the sheer listening value. I like to say that I get my pleasure twice - once when finding the record in the thrift, and second (often years later) when I finally listen to them. My method works well, except in one regard. Because most of my collection is in random order (not alphabetized), I can't quickly locate any specific LP in the 'unlistened to' section when I want to. Often this list will mention some artist, and I will say to myself "I know I have that record, but its still sitting in that 'to listen to' section" I thus own and haven't listened to the 101 Strings 'Astro Sounds' yet, nor many of Lenny Dee's work, or the soundtrack to 'Enter the Dragon', and on and on and on. So instead of hearing the music Nat is talking about, I have to be patient and likely wait a few years. On the bright side though, nothing is quite as exciting when late some evening, I go to that 'unlistened' section, pull 5 LPs out, and bring them to the turntable. It's like playing a lottery - with much better odds. Sometimes the next LP will be some lame orchestral type stuff, but then the next one will be a Cugat album that, in contrast, sounds so much better and I understand why Cugat became so popular during his time. Then there are the best moments - like when the next LP you're about to listen to is something like the soundtrack to 'Barbarella' Well, that's my story. Anyone else interested in their record listening habits? Right now, I'm psyched and about to pull out 5 more records. It's a good life. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Audio Learning Laboratory, New Twist Date: 08 Jan 2000 21:28:08 -0500 > > But for a different example, look at all of the DJs on this list with live > > and/or archived web-radio shows -- some are spinoffs of broadcast radio, > > some are pure webcasts. And apparently quite legal (yet). > > So why not a "Radio Free Exotica" webcast? Count Space Bop in as willing to participate in this - it would be a fun project! ciao, cheryl and brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Gerwitz Subject: (exotica) National Gorilla Suit Day Date: 08 Jan 2000 19:18:31 -0800 In memory of Don Martin, this Sunday is declared National Gorilla Suit Day (remember THAT one old-timers?) Madly, Fester Bestertester P.S. Karbunkle told me to tell you "Dawk" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Kovelant" Subject: Re: (exotica) National Gorilla Suit Day Date: 08 Jan 2000 22:20:53 -0500 Ah, National Gorilla Suit Day. Are you sure you're not working for the Acme Gorilla Suit Company? "Its a conspiracy, I tell you!" "Beware of Dracula, Frankenstein and Chameleon Man! They could be chasing you without notice!" --Game Description for the arcade game "Monster Bash" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) greetings Date: 08 Jan 2000 22:32:52 EST In a message dated 1/8/00 3:12:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, cliche@tilos.hu writes: << > 8. Shaken/stirred? black: Living deads, the powerlessness. white: Alive people. >> even tiki bob is scared by this apparition. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Los Angeles surf fest Jan22 Date: 08 Jan 2000 22:58:29 EST for anyone into modern surf with retro roots you will not be disappointed!! >'ACID BEACH PARTY' >SATURDAY JAN 22ND >at >MR T'S BOWL >5621 1/2 N.FIGUEROA TAKE EXIT 52 OFF THE 110 FWY >LOS ANGELES > > >featuring: > >NEPTUNAS 830 PM >MYSTERIES 915 >SLACKTONE 10 >00 SPY CAR 1045 >INSECT SURFERS 1130 >REVENTLOS 1215 AM > >Psychotronic film projection >Dancers >Giant Twister Tournament >Karaoke >and more... >$10.00 doors open at 8pm >call 310-391-7035 for more info * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to majordomo@slick.org and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the subject). For web-based help, go to: http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) Cuban Music Date: 08 Jan 2000 22:37:43 -0800 Hi folks, Today I found a copy of Jack Costanzo: Mr Bongo Plays Cha Cha Cha in the used CD bins. I was expecting it to be 50s percussion music along the lines of a Command record, but it turned out to be a really good collection of authentic sounding Cuban music. I've always been a fan of Prez Prado and Xavier Cugat, as well as Beny More and Tito Rodriguez. But I knew that these guys came from a musical tradition that went back a lot further. Lately, I've been trying to find the source material that Prado and Cugat mined. I discovered a label called Tumbao Cuban Classics that has a lot of fascinating stuff. Unfortunately, they are pricey imports so I haven't been as adventurous as I would like to be. These are the CDs I've gotten so far. I really like most of the stuff on these. (But don't ask me what the difference is between a mambo, bolero, cha cha, or guaracha!) Conjunto Modelo: Guaguanco En La Habana Antonio ArcanoY Sus Maravillas: Danzon Mambo 1944-1951 Conjunto Colonial: De Nelo Sosa A Burujon Punao Conjunto Casino: Mambo con Cha Cha Cha Conjunto Casino: Rumba Quimbumba I've found a couple of interesting collections on the Harlequin label too... Lecuona Cuban Boys Vol 7: In South America 1940-1944 Havana Cuban Boys Is anyone out there familiar with Cuban music or the Tumbao line of CDs? Any info or recommendations? See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204 Glendale, CA 91205 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) the list Date: 09 Jan 2000 03:27:07 -0500 At 6:00 PM -0500 1/8/00, Nat Kone wrote: >The first thing I have to say is that, having spent some time in a used >record store last summer, I still find it amazing that so many "kids" are >MORE interested in finding a sample that's already been used than they are >in finding one that hasn't. It's about the artifact. Similar to why some people still shell out big bucks for, say, original Blue Note albums, even though they can buy the reissue LP's or the CD's for less than 20 bucks. >Are "they" really sampling bits that are unique to Now Sound records? I >was always told it's more like a drum break from a Seals n Crofts record - >or Bob James - and not a whole "riff" per se... Mostly the drum break........ but sometimes the riff. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lang Thompson Subject: Re: (exotica) copyright myths Date: 09 Jan 2000 03:28:26 -0500 >Sure you can copy it. It makes no difference what you use for source >material. Even if RCA spent ten billion dollars to digitally remove pops Actually it does: this is one of the few areas we've been discussing where there's extensive case law in support of it. Full Alert Film Review http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/fafr.htm Funhouse http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/funhouse.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Do I detect some rust? Date: 09 Jan 2000 03:53:22 -0500 At 5:40 PM -0500 1/8/00, Keith E. Lo Bue wrote: >Only when I have focussed obsessively on one genre have I felt >the rust form, and spreading out into other areas keeps me squeaky clean. >The world of music is far too massive. I think that's what the point was of the discussion. This was started by questions about why the list had changed, why certain people weren't posting much or why folks like Jill were leaving or Jack wasn't coming back. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: (exotica) Mp3's, Jack, etc... Date: 09 Jan 2000 01:56:46 -0800 The MP3cast is tooling right along... I have a Partial House of Games (Jack Diamond) up right now. Super show, whatever your opinion of the presenter. Having encoding problems, at the moment which keeps me from posting the rest. http://216.32.166.82:8698 Paste the above address into your audio player and GO! (I promise an HTML link soon.) There is the possibility of a live netcast next weekend with live Webcam if all goes according to plan. Also - what can anyone recommend for an MP# encoder. Musicmatch is WAY too clunky and slow. Ron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: Re: (exotica) Mp3's, Jack, again.. Date: 09 Jan 2000 02:33:52 -0800 http://www.xtabay.com/feelthyradio.htm Link to afforemationed netcast. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek Subject: (exotica) Another burning idea! Date: 09 Jan 2000 12:04:31 +0100 Hey folks, what about this: With all this talk about making comps and passing them around between listmembers, I got another idea: why not compile OUR OWN music? There are so many musicians around here - pro or amateur, it doesn't matter - and I bet that most of them have recordings of their own performances and/or compositions lying around. What about compiling them? If everyone who has ever recorded their own music contributed one track... doesn't matter if it's a professional CD-recording or a crappy hometape (I have lots of those...).... doesn't matter if the music is exotic or not... I think we could easily fill a couple of CD-R's with these recordings. And there are plenty of designers around here who could do some nice cover artwork. What do y'all think? Marco -- Marco "Kallie" Kalnenek +------------------------------------------+ Record Collector's Heaven http://weirdomusic.freeservers.com/ +------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) Elakelaiset live in Alkmaar 8.1 Date: 09 Jan 2000 12:19:56 +0100 Wow, what a first gig of the new millennium... ;-) After skipping the first leg of their weekendtour of Holland in Groningen (where they played the Eurosonic festival), which was just to far away for me, the Alkmaar one was a must see of course. Arrived somewhat later than anticipated (a suicide jumper and spending awhile searching for the right location) around half past nine at the Parkhof venue, one of those punk rock clubs I thought had disappeared long ago : a kind of bunker and the most mohawks I ever saw together. After enduring some hopelessly inept amateur skapunkers (who managed to share a 10 inch joint on stage during their gig, no mean feat) it was time for some serious humppa when our heroes took the stage and the proved they are one of the most fun bands around, bliss! Taking off with We Are the Robots (sorry I never can remember the Finnish titles), I recognized Sunday Bloody Sunday, Ace of Spades, a very slow Love Will Tear Us Apart and a very fast one of the recent live Humppaorgiat 10". They evidently had a swell time : "Bring us more Alcohol"! Good crowd of 100+ which went bonkers within three songs. The fat drummer is some kind of animal with machinegun rhythm! The band also has a nice routine to stand up behind their desks after each song. Pity they didn't do their bingo joke (now and then they handing out bingocards at the entrance. During the gig they start a bingo game with everyone playing along. But the cards have been rigged and are all the same so when the concluding number is called the whole crowd goes "BINGO"! which leads to utter confusion. You can find an audioexample of this on the Finnish version of "Humpan Kuninkaan Hovissa") Anyway, pity I had to leave after half an hour to catch the last train and bus but I will make amends when they tour again. Their promoter seems keen to get them back soon so hopefully that works out In total a short but well spent evening. German listees are urgently advised to attend one of the German gigs this year... to conclude a Dutch newspaper article (aplogies for the translation) from de PAROOL, 6 january LONG LIVE UNIVERSAL HUMPPA! by Sietse Meijer An evening with Elakelaiset is a feast of recognition. The foursome from Finland who play in the Netherlands this weekend are a coverband, but not your regular one that will try to play the songs as faithfully as possible. Elakelaiset makes feasty Finnish language humppa versions of well known songs who get baptized with new titles. 2 Unlimited's "No Limit" becomes "Humppa tai Kuole", "Sleeping in My Car" from Roxette turns into "Pyjamahumppa", Oasis "Wonderwall" is "Seinakukkahumppa" and "Smells Like Teen Spirit" of Nirvana becomes a simple "Humppanirvana". "Jump" by Van Halen? "Hump" of course. And behind "Humppakonekumppa" hides "Bitch" by Meredith Brooks. The songs are seriously transformed. The original versions may have a housebeat, a solid rock rhythm or a funky groove, Elakelaiset brings them all back to a simple humppa rhythm, drums in a merry fast tempo. Gitarriffs and synthesizer parts are played on that seminal humppa instrument, the accordion, or a high sounding toy organ. Nuances in singing disappear in the no thrills macho men singing. The songs sound like infectious drinking songs, it doesn't matter if it's a sweet song by Suzanne Vega (Tom's Diner or "Aamupalahumppa"), a house hit like "Barbie Girl" by Aqua (Humppabarbi) or an anthem like Queen's "We Will Rock You" (Humppaukaasi). All sung in indescribable Finnish of course. The result is hilarious. Elakelaiset began in 1993 as a side project of Finnish rock group Kumikameli, reports accordeonplayer Lassi Kinnunen through e-mail. The decision to play humppa was taken during a drinking fest. Soon Elakelaiset were more popular than Kumikameli, which turned to the back burner. The group has released five albums to date, from "Humppakarajat" (1994) to the recent "Werbung, Baby!" The complete repertoire of more than hundred humppa-versions has been cataloged by a fan on a Tribute to Elakelaiset-website, which you can find through the links-page at www.humppa.com The four members chose either songs they love - they are big Kiss fans, no coincidence there are three Kiss songs on their repertoire - or one of them really loathes. What's so nice about playing humppamusic? "Free drinking", answers Lassi Kinnunen. And that is the main goal of the group who consists of four heavy drinkers. They are very fond of wodka-jus, he says, but everything with alcohol in it is really OK. He doesn't doubt that the Netherlands are ready for the music of Elakelaiset; "Humppa is an international language!" Arjan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) Elakelaiset tape offer Date: 09 Jan 2000 14:11:20 +0100 Still a bit on a Humppa cloud nine so the first five people who e-mail me I will send a free Elakelaiset tape. Arjan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) Current state of list Date: 09 Jan 2000 14:08:04 +0100 Couldn't find the original postings of people lamenting the current state of this fine list but as when I joined three and a half years ago it might have been livelier but not by much so please don't be too pessimistic! My main interest here has always been wacky and oddball music, if this was solely a loungelist I probably would have departed long ago. What I do miss are people pointing to and reviewing new CD-reissues. Whenever I open a new issue of Cool and Strange Music Magazine only a handfull of record reviews have cropped up here. I do make an effort to try forwarding any seemingly interesting music I come across. I hope anyone else does his duty too! ;-) O yes, I hope those trading schemes which were recently discussed will take off. I always wondered about the lack of tapetrading here and I'm just craving for hearing that particular music that I know I will never hear otherwise. Arjan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) recent acquisitions Date: 08 Jan 2000 19:13:42 +0100 * Hanna-Barbera: "Magilla Gorilla tells Alice in Wonderland; Cinderella as told to Pixie & Dixie; Top Cat tells Robin Hood" o LP, Hanna-Barbera/ Columbia special products P 13908 simulated stereo, USA, 1977 o note: Two cartoon characters each tell a well-known story; Mr. Jinks is the big star here, telling a cool and hip beatnik version of "Cinderella" to Pixie & Dixie. Top cat stars in a gangster story loosely based upon "Robin Hood". * Walter Wanderley: "Moondreams" o LP, A&M Records stereo SP 3022, USA, 1969 o appreciation: 3 o note: Wanderley goes "fusion", arranged by Deodato. Wanderley plays Hammond AND electric harpsichord, with Airto on percussion, and backed by a small orchestra: trumpet, flugelhorn, flutes, violins. Produced by Creed Taylor, recorded at Van Gelder's, soulful CTI sound. * Walter Wanderley: "Murmurio (Murmur of love)" o LP, Tower T 5058 mono o appreciation: 4 * Marty Wilson and his Orchestra: "Jun'gala" o LP, Warner Bros. stereo 1326, USA, 1959 o appreciation:4 o note: Classic, Baxter style orchestral exotica, with a touch of Prado's "Exotica Suite" style jazz, and with Wilson leading each section on alto and bass flute. * Leo Arnaud and his Orchestra: "Marimbita" o LP, Liberty LRP 3088 mono, end 1950's o appreciation: 5 o note: Percussive exotica, but no wild "Bang Baaroom" stuff a la Dick Schory. A very light sound, with accent on high tone instruments like Vibraphone, xylophone, triangle, glockenspiel. Several tracks have something cartoonesque, Harry Breuer style. Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: Re: (exotica) recent acquisitions Date: 08 Jan 2000 19:22:15 +0100 i bought both of them from in Sweden. they are.. errrrrr... collector's CD-R's. sound quality is very good, packaging is not, but i don't mind ;-) they weren't not cheap either... Johan ----- Lou wrote: >So where'd you acquire these, Johan, and are they generally aquirable? >I'm particularly interested in: > >* Luie Luie: Creator of "Touchy" > LP, Penstar Productions P700, USA (CD-R copy) > >* Pastor John Rydgren and peter Tork: Silhouette Segments > Double LP, Weird-Oh disc 002, 1960's (CD-R copy) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek Subject: Re: (exotica) record habits Date: 09 Jan 2000 15:12:09 +0100 itsvern@ibm.net wrote: > Do you listen to an entire side all the > way through, or just test a couple of spots searching for some cool > sound? I've always made a point of playing every record (LP/CD/single/whatever) all the way through at least once. What happens next depends on how much I like it after first hearing. Sometimes I keep playing the same record for a few days, sometimes I put it aside and get back to it later - or never play it again. > Do you alphabetize or otherwise sort your records? Yes, I do. At least I try to. I also keep a database on my computer of all the records I buy. Not that I use it very much, but it can come in handy when I'm writing an article or when I want to send a list to someone who wants to trade tapes or CD's. > Do you pare > your collection down to a few essential LPs, or do you keep most of > them? For the past 20 years I've kept most of them. I will move into a new appartment in March, however. So now I'm taking a closer look at all the records (books, magazines...) that I may not play (read, browse...) anymore. > Ever since the first 'Incredibly Strange Music' book came out, I've been > regularly going to thrift stores and buying old LPs. That book helped me a lot too, although I only discovered it after it had been out for about a year. In the meantime I had already discovered that there was more besides the rock, pop and jazz that I had been listening to for years. Marco -- Marco "Kallie" Kalnenek +------------------------------------------+ Record Collector's Heaven http://weirdomusic.freeservers.com/ +------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Cuban music Date: 09 Jan 2000 09:55:31 EST In a message dated 1/9/00 3:32:21 AM US Eastern Standard Time, owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: << Is anyone out there familiar with Cuban music or the Tumbao line of CDs? Any info or recommendations? >> I have two things on the Tumbao label: Rumba Gallega by Jose Curbelo Y Su Orquesta Tremendo Cumban by Machito These are both good. Jose Curbelo had a big band in the 30's-40's which featured Tito Puente (at a very young age) and Tito Rodriguez before they went off to form their own bands. The CD is mostly rhumbas (just a few years before the mambo craze). The Machito CD is from his excellent late 40's period. You have explored Cuban music more than I have. Several of the artists you mentioned are unfamiliar to me or familiar by name only. I have stuck with mostly big band Cuban music but have a few things by smaller combos (septetos, conjuntos, to use the correct terminology) like Celia Cruz Y Sonora Matancera. I also have a comp on the Rounder Label called "Cuban Counterpoint: The History of the Son Montuno" which is kind of a who's who of Cuban Music with tracks by Arsenio Rodriguez, Septeto Nacional de Ignacio Pineiro, Cachao, and others. For recent recordings, I'm sure you've checked out the Buena Vista Social Club series and the Cachao Master Sessions vols. 1 & 2. If not, I would highly recommend these -- traditional yet fresh. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicola Battista Subject: Re: (exotica) Mp3's, Jack, etc... Date: 09 Jan 2000 15:55:59 +0100 >Also - what can anyone recommend for an MP# encoder. Musicmatch is WAY too >clunky and slow. Xing MP3 encoder. bye, Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista "Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief" (Bono) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, January 9 Date: 09 Jan 2000 10:00:36 -0500 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #79 Easy Tempo Armando Trovajoli: Il Profeta "Beat At Cinecitta vol. 3" Armando Trovajoli: Sessomatto "Easy Tempo" Armando Trovajoli: Vedo Nudo "Beat At Cinecitta vol. 3" Armando Trovajoli: Bada Caterina "Beat At Cinecitta vol. 2" Armando Trovajoli: Beat Trombone "(Italian Girls Like) Ear-Catching Melodies" Nico Fidenco: Eternal Anguish "Black Emmanuelle's Groove" Piero Umiliani: Violenza "Svezia Inferno e Paradiso" Riz Ortolani: Cani e Gatti "Mo'Plen 2000" Armando Sciascia: Aciclico "Mosaico Psichedelico Alla Celluloide" Franco Micalizzi: Folk & Violence "Beretta 70" Berto Pisano: Kill Them All "Beat At Cinecitta vol. 3" Lee Selmoco Orchestra: Blue Media "Easy Tempo" Francesco De Masi/Alessandro Alessandroni: Hot Camera Shake "(Italian Girls Like) Ear-Catching Melodies" Armando Sciascia: Circuito Chiuso "Mosaico Psichedelico Alla Celluloide" Puccio Roelens: Due Per Due "Beat Psichedelico Alla Celluloide" Bruno Nicolai: I Want It All "Beat At Cinecitta vol. 1" Luis Bacalov: Summertime Killer "Beretta 70" Piero Umiliani: Samba Mah Na "Svezia Inferno e Paradiso" Thanks for reading. cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: (exotica) KUSF Record Swap Date: 09 Jan 2000 10:26:32 EST When is the next KUSF record swap in San Francisco? Thanks, Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Cugat Bang Bang Date: 09 Jan 2000 11:12:21 -0500 >If any one would like to hear them, feel free to stop by my house and borrow >either of the albums or the compilation CD, since me making you a duplicate >might have unsavory legal repercussions. E-mail me to set up a time to drop >in, I'll have some fresh baked cookies and tea ready for you. Mmmm, chocolate chip, I hope. Record parties rule. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Cuban Music Date: 09 Jan 2000 11:23:34 -0500 >Is anyone out there familiar with Cuban music or the >Tumbao line of CDs? Any info or recommendations? I can't comment specifically on that, but here's a site that seems like a pretty serious resource for Latin/Caribbean music: http://www.descarga.com/cgi-bin/db Partly a journal, partly a catalog, which sometimes sends up red flags, but the articles seem solid. And here's a links collection (brush up on your Espanol first): http://www.mundolatino.org/cultura/Musica/ m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) For the Glam fans Date: 09 Jan 2000 11:27:54 -0500 David Bowie has opened an online bank. Details here: http://rock.yahoo.com/rock/music_news/sonicnet/story.html?s=n/sonicnet/rock/news/20000108/20000108002 m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Current state of list Date: 09 Jan 2000 11:54:27 -0500 I think ever since I joined the list there has been someone here and there saying, "this list isn't what it used to be." And it's true -- if you jump a few months at ANY point, you will find that the tone or direction has shifted. Its always changing. And I don't think it's for the worse, just different. And probably healthy -- if it had been nothing but discussion of Baxter/Denny/Esquivel albums all these years, it would have died long ago. So I guess I'm saying, yes the list it not like it used to be, but that's what keeps it interesting. And even though we miss old comrades who have moved on, well, that's life in general. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) record habits Date: 09 Jan 2000 12:44:00 -0500 At 08:52 PM 1/8/00 -0500, itsvern@ibm.net wrote: > Do you listen to an entire side all the >way through, or just test a couple of spots searching for some cool >sound? I'm a bit ashamed to admit how much I like this topic and these kinds of idiosyncracies. This is what my film was supposed to be about but in the end, there's not that much of this kind of stuff in there. I seldom listen to a record all the way through AFTER the first time I check it out. And even then, if it's painful I don't always play it all the way through even once. I have regretted that on occasion when my friend at the record store puts on one of my rejects and plays a great cut and I don't recognize it. I don't get much of a chance to really appreciate my "lounge/exotica/Now Sound" vinyl unless I'm making a tape. Or someone mentions it here. I used to play records all the way through, all the time, repeatedly but that was before my lounge accumulation/thrift store days, before CD's, before I started making all these tapes, back when I listened mostly to jazz and "alternative rock". It seems stupid to have 'em and not play 'em. It actually bugs me. But I keep going. Do you alphabetize or otherwise sort your records? I alphabetize the jazz, country, crooner, blues, R&B and the rock that I had before I started buying lounge, which is to say nothing that we talk about here but everything else. I feel like if I want to play a country record, it's fairly likely that I'll think of a particular artist whereas when I think of this stuff, I'm more likely to think of a particular subgenre. With jazz, I'll think "Oh where's that Elvin Jones record" whereas with this stuff, I'll probably just think "I need to hear some moog". It's also a matter of category. It's somehow easier for me to put a fifties country record in the same section as a seventies country record whereas within the larger genres of lounge and Now Sound, I have the records "organized" into about 15 subgenres. Someday I'll probably alphabetize the lounge/Now Sound, now that I am more familiar with the artists and I occasionally look for a specific one. Do you pare >your collection down to a few essential LPs, or do you keep most of >them? I've always gotten rid of way more than I kept. Sometimes it's a matter of essential versus non-essential. Sometimes it just has to be done and I have to come up with instant criteria to help me get rid of something. I occasionally regret it. Once upon a time I had a serious urge to purge and later regretted a lot of the ones I lost. (This is the last time I'll refer to it. That IS in my film.) > >So, to start the ball rolling, here's a lengthy post to how I handle >things (from a non-musician, non music industry related exotica fan) I really enjoyed reading this. You're weird. I know a lot of people who always have a whole bunch of records they still haven't heard but I don't think any of them take years to get to them, like you do. I like the idea of you just dumping the best stuff onto tape regardless of genre. I have a certain space on the floor - about the size of two milk crates - where I keep the records that haven't been put on tape yet. When they fill that space, I begin to make the tapes but I make them according to genre, of which there are usually five. Sucky lounge or "soft themes" Better percussion, lounge and exotica Soft Now Sound Better Now Sound and instrumental rock covers Soundtracks for groovy movies that don't exist. Basically a lot of Now Sound "original" cuts, crime jazz or anything that isn't a "cover" and reminds me of a generic scene in a go-go bar. This is sick. I also make crooner, country and soft pop tapes but those records I write down and put on the shelf, rather than keep them in that floor spot. I'm actually making a category four tape right now. I'll get to the last category today maybe and then that space will be clear again. And for a moment, so will my head be. I'm actually kinda hoping this is the last time I ever do this. But either way, someday when I get a CD recorder, this will all change. It wasn't always like this. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) John Keating and the non redemption of Supertramp Date: 09 Jan 2000 12:48:41 -0500 You know how an instrumental - Now Sound - cover can sometimes elevate a song you never liked much? Like "Venus" by Roberto Delgado, frinstance. Well on John Keating's "Space Experience 2", there's absolutely nothing he can do to redeem or elevate that frigging song "Dreamer". (Or maybe that was Genesis.) Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: (exotica) record habits Date: 09 Jan 2000 12:50:22 -0500 I have some records that i've not listened to in almost 10 years, and some that i think are in my top 1%, and even a set which is in my top 10 records (out of over 40,000), which i've only heard part of. The anticipation is part of the enjoyment, the newness of it, and for some records, i just need the special time, lifespace, and head. it is very individual... ck -- Citizen Kafka, Producer, "The Secret Museum of the Air" NEW!: every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM & WXHD (Hudson Valley) 90.1 FM http://www.megasaver.com/page2/smradio.html http://wfmu.org/ then go to 'listen to wfmu' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) speaking of redemption Date: 09 Jan 2000 13:13:31 -0500 I'm always struck by how a little organ riff can absolutely redeem or elevate a cut. Especially if it comes in late or seems like a bit of a surprise or even an afterthought. But I just can't believe how much I love that instrument. It's unbelievable the crap I can tolerate if it has a little organ in it. (No puns please) I can't quite extend this to pipe organ or George Wright kinda stuff, which is okay but has its limits. But practically anything else, if it has organ, I like it. Or at the very least, it elevates whatever it comes in contact with. And it doesn't have to be a lot of organ. Just a riff like I say. Cugat's version of "Night Train" is a great example. The organ riff saves what is otherwise an okay version of a tune I've heard enough. And the organ is one of the elements that sets a lot of Perez Prado apart. But that's just the tip of the organ, so to speak. I just love the organ. Always have. Back to Felix Cavaliere and Al Kooper and Alan Price and Question Mark and the first time I heard Jimmy Smith do "When Johnny Comes Marching Home". Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Larson/Thomas" Subject: RE: (exotica) Cuban music Date: 09 Jan 2000 10:35:04 -0800 I own a number of the Lecuano Cuban Boy CDs as well as "Cuban Counterpoint: The History of the Son Montuno" (mentioned by someone else) and "Routes of Rhythm" which is also pretty good. But my favorite Cuban CD by far is "Cuba Classics 2: Dancing with the Enemy." It's an energy-filled joy from beginning to end. Jerry Larson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj Batman Subject: Re: (exotica) recent acquisitions Date: 09 Jan 2000 15:56:07 +0100 one of my latest is Vip 200 - Fernet Branca/Topless Party - italian 7" by Ego Records. (http://www.tamtamstudio.com). Excellent, crazy track from a 70's commercial (still appearing on Italian TV) for popular liquor called -er- Fernet Branca, performed apparently by this band called Vip 200, similar to Montefiori Cocktail... Composed by Franco Godi, who was still into music for commercials in let 80's (i have an hip-hop tape for promoting Fiat Uuo cars, and rap by Godi, accompained by various rap tracks by de La Soul and others). Plus, around 1989/90 I think he made "President externation dance", sampling our President Francesco Cossiga's voice, and also making a video for that. I think he is currently involved with bands like Articolo 31, i.e. italian pseudo hip-hop... The b-side is a Piero Umiliani track, "topless party" (nice organ!!!). One the site you will find real audio clips of some tracks including a bit of a live version of Fernet Branca!! bye, Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista "Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief" (Bono) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj Batman Subject: Re: (exotica) copyright myths Date: 09 Jan 2000 18:24:23 +0100 >>Sure you can copy it. It makes no difference what you use for source >>material. Even if RCA spent ten billion dollars to digitally remove pops > > >Actually it does: this is one of the few areas we've been discussing where >there's extensive case law in support of it. this is why every seven years Disney re-releases its movies with new movies posters and (for the older stuff) digital remastering. Remastering means creating a new copyright. I have a Neal Hefti LP made in 1989. The copyright says 1966 but the remasters are copyrighted 1989... same for remasters of 2001 A Space Odissey Soundtrack. Plus, copyright on the sound recording (the (p) on record sleeves) is different than the one (the (c)) on publishing (sheet music, lyrics, mechanicals, performance rights, internet...). So, can you copy a Caruso song? Yes and no. You can copy and even reprint it on cd legally as its been recorded more than 50 yrs ago. So the sound recording (not the track) is in the Public Domain. But you should pay the appropriate royalty colleciton agency the mechanicals as the track is not in the public domain yet. Music magazine Uncut, in the UK, is giving away compilations of tracks including both recent rock and electronica and classic jazz/swing stuff. So lately they published various Louis Armstrong, Glenn Miller etc without having any kind of license. But they still have to pay mechanicals. bye, Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista "Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief" (Bono) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj Batman Subject: Re: (exotica) National Gorilla Suit Day Date: 09 Jan 2000 18:24:28 +0100 >In memory of Don Martin, this Sunday is declared National Gorilla Suit >Day (remember THAT one old-timers?) LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! I have that one in Italian!!! :))) bye, Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista "Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief" (Bono) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) copyright myths Date: 09 Jan 2000 15:12:18 -0500 Dj Batman wrote: > this is why every seven years Disney re-releases its movies with new movies > posters and (for the older stuff) digital remastering. Remastering means > creating a new copyright. No, I believe Disney's reasoning was to create an "exclusivity", where their videos were available only for a limited time, so if you didn't buy them when they were released, you would have to wait another 7 years (or basically, until odds were your kid was too old to want to see it!). The new packaging etc. is just to cater to the market as it changes - there's really no difference in the product, but it looks different from the one released 7 years previous. However, I just read that they have now abandoned this marketing approach, and will be releasing all of their videos (except for their 10 top videos, whichever they are, which they will now release one per year). I would be very surprised to see if Disney let any of their copyrights lapse! cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) New Music Date: 09 Jan 2000 16:03:19 EST In a message dated 1/8/0 5:56:05 PM, bruno@yhammer.com wrote: >you hear that the artist - or DJ - dipped into a huge eclectic >record collection to make his/her CD but when you hear it, it's more of the >same. You don't get chunks of sampled riffs; all you get are blips and >bleeps in the midst of beats. That's exactly the way I feel about it. I have debated with proponents of the new stuff about this endless repetition, lack of bridges and choruses, even a melody beyond the attraction of the basic bassline. I get told again and again, "This is new music. it doesn't follow the rules of the old music." Nat, you put your finger on my pulse and expressed what I have been trying to say. You oughta go into writing! Now, that being said, is it possible that sampling is such a complicated matter that to pack a new song with loads of samples in technologically unfeasible? I think of US-3 and their "sampling" of Herbie Hancock's "Canteloupe Island" which they called "Cantaloop". It was basically the whole song. Why can't this be done with other pieces and then have samples of e-z styled stuff thrown in on top. Speed it up, slow it down, but get lottttts of it in there. all you have to do is match the keys up, admittedly a tiresome job. Then there's more of a listening experience and less focus on head-bobbing to mainly beats. Or am I missing something? Jimmy Botticelli # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) National Gorilla Suit Day Date: 09 Jan 2000 16:12:06 EST In a message dated 1/8/0 10:24:45 PM, nail23@bellsouth.net wrote: >Ah, National Gorilla Suit Day. Are you sure you're not working for the Acme >Gorilla Suit Company? No more, I just got a job with the "Making Streets Look Like It Just Rained Co." (erp) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Cuban Music Date: 09 Jan 2000 15:31:32 -0500 Have recently begun getting serious about this music. Main learning aids are some programs on a local indy radio station, often bilingual and sometimes frustratingly en Espanole only, spoken by a guy with a rapid-fire delivery. I have learned there's a big expatiate community of Cuban musicians living and playing in Costa Rica who keep the older music alive and teach it to younger musicians. Will post more, including names and recordings, as I know more. Also plan to start taping shows and will soon be in a position to trade edited tapes (not CDs) with anyone who's interested. More to come. Evangelista Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) exotica questionaire Date: 09 Jan 2000 13:40:34 -0800 > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Amateur CD-player by trade... > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Robert Drasnin's Voodoo! was the first true exotica CD I got, followed shortly thereafter by the UL Crime Scene and Mondo Exotica discs (and then Martin Denny Exotica, et al.) I did have earlier incluence from some of Tangerine Dream (Risky Business) and Danny Elfman's (Wisdom) percussion-based scores. > > 3. This list could help you more by... Causing record companies to release more old stuff, "push" new exotica bands onto the public (yeah, I know, but a guy can dream, can't he?) > > 4. Other exotica/things you collect Swizzle sticks, Mai Tai reviews, old bartender guides and the like. I dream a lot about Bora Bora. > > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like: Have lots of heavy stuff (Metallica, Megadeth, etc), eurodisco (Pet Shop Boys, Depeche Mode), 80's New Wave/Pop (Oingo Boingo, Cure, Men at Work), Soundtrack stuff (Danny Elfman, etc), even a lot of pop (Madonna). > > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? The world would be a much better place if everyone listened to me... Oh, not really... > > 7. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it > or > > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? > Hawaiian Shirts! > > 8. Shaken/stirred? Shaken! Except I don't like Martinis... Kevin Crossman The Search for the Ultimate Mai Tai http://www.kevdo.com/maitai/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wayno Subject: (exotica) What's with the baggy sleeves? Date: 09 Jan 2000 17:08:56 -0500 I've noticed a weird motif cropping up in music ads recently: the subject is wearing a jersey or sweater with very long sleeves, so that only their fingers are visible, and they've got one or both hands near their face. What's supposed to be conveyed here? Are these people trying to look endearing or something? This bizarre pose can be seen on "Revelations" by Wynona Judd and "It's No Secret Anymore" by Linda Eder . I recently spotted an ad for Sting's new album (and back catalog) where he's jumping on the extra-long sleeve bandwagon. In this ad, he appears to be holding his nose and laughing, which is probably an appropriate reaction to his records. Anybody have an explanation (or theory) for this odd phenomenon? Just curious, Wayno # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Moritz R" Subject: Re: (exotica) Mireille Mathieu Date: 10 Jan 2000 00:21:19 +0100 Some of you might be interested in the fact that Mireille Mathieu has feet made of wood. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Moritz R" Subject: Re: (exotica) First song of the year 2000... Date: 10 Jan 2000 00:21:31 +0100 I was at a party and the host played "Also sprach Zarathustra" followed by "In the Year 2525". I thought it kind of worked. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) the tv thing Date: 09 Jan 2000 19:34:09 -0500 There's little that's especially "listy" on tv this week. Friday night at 9:00pm and Midnight (eastern), US Bravo has "Exotica" (1994), but it's about a different exotica. Sure to be snipped-up for your convenience. Every Tuesday morning this month, TCM is running a batch of Edward L. Cahn movies (if you know the name, you know where it's at). This week includes "Hong Kong Confidential", "Pier 5, Havana" (both w/ Allison Hayes) and "Four Skulls Of Jonathan Drake" (four more besides, check the listings for full rundown). And next Saturday night AMC has "Fathom" (1967) at 10:00pm and 3:45am. Budget euro-adventure w/ Raquel Welch -- chattered about on here a while back. At 2:15am they offer Ann-Margret in "The Swinger" (1966). Silly 60s stuff. Surely some Now Sound on the soundtrack. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) record habits Date: 09 Jan 2000 19:34:22 -0500 My obsessive-compulsive confessions... When I listen to an LP or disc, I prefer to listen all the way through the first time -- a tradition going back to my youth when it was all such a wonderful ritual (going home with a new record -- peeling the shrink wrap (remember the smell of a freshly opened record?) -- seeing what sort of goodies they had in the package (gatefold? inserts?) -- and finally slapping it on the turntable and away we go on a new adventure). There's a feeling that to get the true effect of the artists' intentions, you should listen straight through. You don't watch a movie in bits and pieces (well, sometimes). Except the last few years I have bad problems staying awake for the duration. There's some sort of somatic effect that's hard to fight. And it even works with noisy stuff like The Boredoms. Go figger. It's a royal pain. At one time, I would subsequently listen to an album a few tracks at a time, each morning while doing some menial chores, which didn't interfere with full listening attention. This was really good for having the tracks soak in individually, rather than the way they can blur together in a full-length listening. An album usually lasted just under a week through that process. I don't get to do that now though. Once soaked in (somehow), I tend not to listen full-length after that... just pull out tracks for reference (or a craving). Or I might put an album on in the background while doing something else. But I always feel a little guilty when I do that. I have some sort of Protestant work ethic about giving my full concentration when listening to music. Eyes shut... really climb inside it. And then I get sleepy. Can't win. I don't archive to tape or anything. But I'm still way behind on my listening. Jessica always amazed me with her ability to file a report on a whole stack of records she'd just scored. I have records from a couple of summers ago that I haven't spun yet! Not that I've got huge quantities here (it's peanuts compared to a lot of you), but I just need to be in the right mood at the right time. And then there's all of these movies I haven't watched either! I order them alphabetical by artist, then chronological (if possible) within the artist (if more than one album by the artist). With classical material, the composer and performer may have to arm-wrestle for precedence. Various artist albums are under V for Various and alphabetized by title within that fiefdom. The other exception is the often-anonymous kiddie records, filed under K and similarly alphabetized by title. To me, alphabetical seems much simpler than genre-filing. I mean, all of that category creating and sorting has to be a lot of work. And then I imagine myself trying to remember where I filed some genre-defying item. The other thing I like about alphabetical filing is the juxtapositions it creates. Like: Billy Vaughn, The Velvet Underground and The Ventures. Or Vanity 6 and Edgard Varese. Or Sun Ra and The Surfaris. Now aren't you sorry you asked? m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Louis Prima Biovid Date: 09 Jan 2000 17:34:25 -0800 At 05:08 PM 09-01-00 -0500, Wayno wrote: >I've noticed a weird motif cropping up in music ads recently: the subject >is wearing a jersey or sweater with very long sleeves, so that only their >fingers are visible, and they've got one or both hands near their face. Oh, this is the Keely Smith look! :) No, I have no idea and I am sure she didn't establish the sweater motif, but it gives me a chance to talk about the latest video documentary about Louis Prima. This video production features several clips of Ms. Smith and Mr. Prima, she is constantly rubbing her nose as she stands in the background. It is not a particularly normal thing to do while on stage or TV. Also, other than that, she was practically motionless. In fact, she looked as if she was a 2-D lifesize cutout (every band should have one). From what the documentary said, this was part of the act...but she often looked genuinely bored and even repulsed by all of the stage antics so I wonder what she REALLY was thinking. Still, the documentary did have some music clips where she was engaged...a solo she did with the band and a duo with Louis where she actually laughed. It is a very good documentary and gave me probably the best overview of Louis Prima's career that I have encountered. It is called "Louis Prima: The Wildest" and is directed by Don McGlynn. He says it will start playing on American Movie Classics beginning February 5th. Video distribution rights haven't been arranged yet, but he says it will probably eventually be released on DVD. He says he tried to do a new interview with Ms. Smith for the movie and spent 6 months at it before resorting to an older interview. Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) Re: New Music Date: 09 Jan 2000 22:02:34 -0500 At 04:03 PM 1/9/00 EST, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > > I have debated with proponents of the >new stuff about this endless repetition, lack of bridges and choruses, even a >melody beyond the attraction of the basic bassline. I get told again and >again, "This is new music. it doesn't follow the rules of the old music." I have nothing against that. Far be it from me to be caught saying that new music should follow the rules of old music. Maybe my beef is with the marketing or the hype more than with the music. Like I said in my post, if I hear that the DJ went through multiple bins and a wide range of genres in order to create his/her new music, that sets up an expectation. I'd say that Tipsy pretty well met that expectation but very few others. Why do they talk about all the old records that are both influences and tools for them if you need a very fine tooth comb in order to find something that may just be a sample? All I can think is that it's cool to talk about pouring over the bins, to create an image of yourself as some kind of hip archaeologist but when it comes down to it, actually fulfilling the image would force you to create a kind of music that just wouldn't cut it in this scene. And if nobody calls you on it, then you get to have the best of both worlds. Then again, I could be totally wrong about this. Just another old fogey like Jimmy, though slightly less old. > Now, that being said, is it possible that >sampling is such a complicated matter that to pack a new song with loads of >samples in technologically unfeasible? This is something I do know and it's definitely feasible. Someday when we get them all nicely packaged, I'll send you a copy of my soundtrack which disproves your theory in a number of ways. Like I said, I don't think it's a matter of feasibility as much as "desirability". The kind of music that you're imagining is not the kind of music they want to make. They may sample tons of riffs but they don't let that get in the way of doing what they want to do. They chop it so fine that they're the only ones who can really tell that there was once a sample there. Maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration, I don't know. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Records today and recently Date: 09 Jan 2000 18:58:06 -0800 Here are some LPs I got today and a few from a recent trip. I welcome any insights you have. I haven't been able to listen to them yet. A Very Merry Electric Christmas to You Douglas Leedy Capitol ST 339 This may interest the synth crowd. Here Mr. Leedy plays the Moog, Buchla and Ognob synthesizers at UCLA. The only Xmas carol I don't recognize is called "From Heaven to Earth." Welcome to the Ponderosa Lorne Greene RCA LSP 2843 Alas I still do not have Bonanza (LSP 2583), Christmas on the Ponderosa (LSP 2757) or Lorne Greene's "Young at Heart" (LSP 2661), but this was a good intro from 1964. It appears mostly spoken word with only two musical numbers: Bonanza, arranged by Don Ralke) and Saga of the Ponderosa, arranged by Dave Gates...both conducted by Joe Reisman. Don't ask me why I would want any of these albums...I just have this weird need to grab these odd concept/tie-in albums. I don't even think I watched Bonanza, although I know the theme song very well and my college roomate used to be named Bob Cartwright (when he got married HE changed his last name because he got tired of the jokes). In the Mexican Bag Billy Strange with the Mexicana Brass GNP-C. GNP 2022 I am not a huge fan of Billy Strange, but I usually like at least one cut from each of his albums and the concepts for his albums usually appeal to me. Tricky Trombones Warren Covington & the Tommy Dorsey Orchestra Decca DL 4130 Ghost big bands always bothered me, especially in this case because Mr. Covington had a sound of his own. So, when I buy these ghost band records I consider them the Warren Covington Orchestra first. I like Covington's Cha Cha records. We Dig Mancini The Anita Kerr Quartet RCA LPM 3428 1965 I have a feeling I may not like this one, especially because it has an endorsement from Arthur Godfrey which calls it "a beautiful album." However, I have been interested in vocal groups which do Mancini or music by other talented composers/arrangers. There was another Mancini vocal album in the pricier stacks which had Mr. M's active participation, but this one apparently did not. Anyway, there are vocal renditions of The Pink Panther Theme, Baby Elephant Walk, Charade, Dreamsville and Peter Gunn...so there may be something interesting, if nothing something to laugh at. There is a stereo version of this one, of course. Alone Together Joe Lilley, Whispering Choir and The Skylarks Decca DL 8223 Another vocal album apparently. The titles don't sound particularly fun...all of that romantic variety. Still, I think I have heard that The Skylarks are a good group...and this album has a great cover: a well-dressed guy and gal on a tiny desert isle with a Decca record player playing, what else, a Decca record! Dancing Tonight To Morrow Buddy Morrow RCA LPM 1925 I tried bidding for this record once in a paper auction and got the auction folks messed up the number so I didn't get the record. Oh well, now I have it. I usually like some Buddy Morrow tunes. With Mambo Number Five and tunes like "Chicken Bone" or "Hey, Mr. Bones" I think this may be interesting. South of the Border Various 4 LPs Reader's Digest 1968 These days I am more reluctant to buy these boxed sets. They look nice and generally are in very good condition, but I rarely play from them! The whole process of pulling them out just seems so tiresome. These are made for the era of stacked LPs. Also, pulling one record out of a sleeve let you admire the cover art and read the liner notes...and these boxed sets usually had bad art and very little good documentation to speak of. Not to mention, the performances were not usually by the best groups or the best recordings. This boxed set is pretty much along those lines but has SOME better performers mixed in: Perez Prado, Claus Ogerman...but only a couple cuts each. The rest of the selections are performed by folks which may have been popular in Mexico, but not in the US. I am hoping for the best, though, and it didn't cost me much to give them a try. Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Records today and recently Date: 09 Jan 2000 22:51:54 EST Mr Smooth writes << We Dig Mancini The Anita Kerr Quartet RCA LPM 3428 1965 I have a feeling I may not like this one, especially because it has an endorsement from Arthur Godfrey which calls it "a beautiful album." However, I have been interested in vocal groups which do Mancini or music by other talented composers/arrangers. There was another Mancini vocal album in the pricier stacks which had Mr. M's active participation, but this one apparently did not. Anyway, there are vocal renditions of The Pink Panther Theme, Baby Elephant Walk, Charade, Dreamsville and Peter Gunn...so there may be something interesting, if nothing something to laugh at. There is a stereo version of this one, of course. >> I think you are in for a very nice surprise with this record Byron. Much, much, much cooler and hipper than anything Anita Kerr ever did. For my ears, you've got yourself a great record. Was that other Mancini vocal record "the brothers go to mothers and others", by Group One? If it is, get back there and pick it up! Another winner. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kendoll Subject: Re: (exotica) Records today and recently Date: 09 Jan 2000 21:32:45 -0700 bag@hubris.net wrote: > A Very Merry Electric Christmas to You Douglas Leedy Capitol ST 339 This > may interest the synth crowd. Here Mr. Leedy plays the Moog, Buchla and > Ognob synthesizers at UCLA. i met Don Bucha, inventor of the Buchla synthesizer in 1992 at the Banff Centre. no insight, just name dropping. > Welcome to the Ponderosa Lorne Greene again, no insight, but a story: my baba was the biggest Lorne Greene fan ever. when he appeared here for a concert she begged my mother to take her, but my mother refused because it was sold out. baba insisted that for one frail little old white haired lady they would surely find a seat, but my mother was intransigent. I think this was a sore point between them for many years. too bad i wasn't older (i couldn't have been more than 9), i would have got baba in to that concert somehow. > We Dig Mancini The Anita Kerr Quartet RCA LPM 3428 1965 > I have a feeling I may not like this one, especially because it has an > endorsement from Arthur Godfrey which calls it "a beautiful album." i think you will be pleasantly surprised. the tracks with wordless vocals (da ba da's) are especially fine -- baby elephant walk, mr. lucky, pink panther -- as well as the peter gunn theme for its swinging lyrics. > These days I am more reluctant to buy these boxed sets. They look nice and > generally are in very good condition, but I rarely play from them! The > whole process of pulling them out just seems so tiresome. These are made > for the era of stacked LPs. Also, pulling one record out of a sleeve let > you admire the cover art and read the liner notes...and these boxed sets > usually had bad art and very little good documentation to speak of. Not to > mention, the performances were not usually by the best groups or the best > recordings. this sums up how i feel about these box sets too. one recent exception though was a set on victor called adventures in stereo which features 10 complete LPs by the artists, the best being esquivel's latin-esque, dick schory's stereo action goes broadway, marty gold's stereo action goes hollywood, an okay wurlitzer record by leonard leigh. lesser lights include arthur murray, norman luboff choir & melachrino strings. would have been nice to have the original cover art, but for $2.99 in mint condition i'm not complaining. mike. ----------- "clever quotation" -witty dead person. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kendoll Subject: Re: (exotica) record habits Date: 09 Jan 2000 21:50:25 -0700 m.ace wrote: > The other thing I like about alphabetical filing is the juxtapositions it > creates. Like: Billy Vaughn, The Velvet Underground and The Ventures. Or > Vanity 6 and Edgard Varese. Or Sun Ra and The Surfaris. i too am fond of the shelf-mates that alphabetical filing creates. in my collection Barry White is next to Slim Whitman and Andy Williams, Isaac Hayes to Heino & Heintje. mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Moritz R" Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring back... Date: 10 Jan 2000 00:20:50 +0100 >I miss Moritz but I'm assuming he's coming back Correctly, Nat! Coming back from prolonged christmas-holydays, only to find some 450 exotica list postings. It's a bit late now, but all my best wishes for you all for the current millenium! May we all be in good shape till the next one! I had the most psychedelic New Years night in Berlin. After attending the party of friends I ended up in the new "Schmalzwald", where Gordon, Laura and this phantastic singer, whose name I don't know, performed "evergreens". If there's a place on earth better suited for tripping, I'd like to know, but I doubt it. We were speechless. Imagine a large cubic room. The walls all covered to the ceiling with all your favorite things to look at plus unimaginable images and objects that would turn the entire futurist's and Dadaist's faces pale. The best record covers the hundreds, a large Tiki column in the middle of the room, no wonder the Schmalzwald had recieved the Triple Tiki Award by Tiki News and Sven Kirsten! There are spacy laser rainbow backgrounds and kinetic plastic objects and weird lamps in all shapes and colors. Everything was so colorful and wild and funny, I have to take off my hat to Laura who has styled all this. If you assume it was only our altered state of mind that had made us see the Schmalzwald like a psychedelic dream come true, go there yourself! At some time in the night there was a tombola. One prize was one of Laura's lamps, another one "all records you can carry away from 2000" and I only wished I would win that, because I'm very experienced in carrying LOTS of records. The third prize was a "two-hour trip for two - any destination". It turned out to be two bus-tickets. We stayed for hours and didn't leave until 7 in the morning. Funny: On the way home in a subway station, we met a very good friend of mine from Munich, of 5 million or so people who were in Berlin that night. And that wasn't a hallucination either! Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Moritz R" Subject: Re: (exotica) You Go-Go Girl Date: 10 Jan 2000 01:28:28 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- > For you eXoticats who love Nancy, do the triumphs of Boots and Velvet > Morning or Jackson or even How Does That Grab You, Darlin'? compensate for > the mediocrity of the bulk of her performances? Or is it Hazelwood's > songwriting and arrangements you dig? Exactely. The best are the duets anyway. Remember Nancy was about to quit music business for total failure when Lee came and made her sing "Boots" "like a 14 year old girl who wants to seduce a 40 year old man". SHE, according to her own statements, had no idea what he was talking about. >Or am I just not getting the X factor that makes Nancy great? No, there is no X-factor. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) New Music Date: 10 Jan 2000 00:14:11 -0500 At 4:03 PM -0500 1/9/00, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > is it possible that >sampling is such a complicated matter that to pack a new song with loads of >samples in technologically unfeasible? ..... Why can't this be done with >other pieces and then >have samples of e-z styled stuff thrown in on top. ....all you have to do >is match the keys up, >admittedly a tiresome job. Then there's more of a listening experience and >less focus on head-bobbing to mainly beats. Or am I missing something? There is a style of electronic music that does this all the time. It's called breakbeat. It's not very popular in the U.S. yet (except in Miami), but you can hear lots of it in Europe and Japan. It's funk based, features lots of ez samples as well as TV and movie dialogue, etc, and generally has lots of melodic things going on. Some of it contains real songs that listees would know : Skeewiff's "New Avengers Theme", MIke Young's "Telstar", Mucho Mambo's "Sway", Three Amigo's "Louie Louie", The Wiseguy's remix of Beck's "Sex Laws", Rolling Stoned's "Jumpin Jack Flash", Fat Boy Slim's "Satisfaction"; Jacknife Lee even takes the blooper tape of Casey Casem doing the "fucking dead dog" routine and puts it over some funky beats. The truly fab Ursula 1000, who twists up the theme to Bedazzled on his debut disc "The Now Sound Of Ursula 1000" (18th St. Lounge Records), spins a great night of this stuff at Drinkland in NYC on Thursdays. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Help! RF problems Date: 09 Jan 2000 21:20:43 -0800 While I hope to get some advice from the radio station for which I am producing, I thought someone here might have some ideas (no matter how far-fetched) to solve my problem. The house I bought is a 1908 house and has a terrible mix of electrical hook-ups...mostly ungrounded and unpolarized. The fact that I have a problem should be no surprise. Even in my grounded apartment I had a little RF intrusion into the audio from my turntables. I only heard it when I brought the volume all the way up, so it was acceptable. However, I finally hooked up the equipment in my new-to-me old house and the RFI is way too much to record from. I grounded the turntables to the mixer but it is not enough. Short of having my entire electrical system redone (which I eventually will do someday), what can I do to minimize the RFI or eliminate it? If I can't can't get this fixed, I can't produce a program with records anymore...in other words, I can't produce a program! Your ideas, no matter what, are appreciated. Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mofo2148" Subject: (exotica) The Friendly Persuasion Show - Week of 01/10/00 Date: 10 Jan 2000 00:01:31 -0800 Week of 01/10/00 The Friendly Persuasion Show Cool and Strange Music Magazine's weekly radio show on Antenna Internet Radio. http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm Get your RealAudio player ready and tune in anytime during this week to hear: The Bran Flakes with the Friendly Persuasion Orchestra and Chorus - The Friendly Persuasion Theme Song Sing Along With JFK - Let Us Begin Beguine Daniel and the Lion's Den - I'm The Referee The Kids of Widney High - Throw away the Trash Wild Man Fischer - Back In Time Wild Man Fischer - Outside The Hospital Damaskas - A Day In The Life Of Green Acres Uncle Dale presents Paul Marco as Keaton the Cop - Home on the Strange Coyle & Sharpe - Eating People at a Death Ritual The Bran Flakes - A Musical Computer (Here's) Joey - Traveling With Joey Charlie & Todd - Unidentified Track #1 from 1971 The Cheese Band - I Like Cheese Captain Beefheart - The Blimp The Residents - We're a Happy Family/Bali Ha'i Wild Man Fischer - Ping Pong Ball Head The One World Orchestra - The Magnificent The Naked Rabbit World Power Organization - Bonus Mystery Track Fess Parker - Goodnight Little Wrangler Chow, Otis Mr. Otis F. Odder mofo2148@speakeasy.org Box 21104, Seattle, WA 98111 USA Cool & Strange Music Magazine - www.coolandstrange.com Antenna Internet Radio - www.antennaradio.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Records today and recently Date: 10 Jan 2000 08:05:44 -0500 At 06:58 PM 1/9/00 -0800, bag@hubris.net wrote: > >A Very Merry Electric Christmas to You Douglas Leedy Capitol ST 339 This >may interest the synth crowd. I have other Doug Leedy stuff (which of course I can't find right now because I don't alphabetize stuff like this). But I remember it being cooler than average. Anyone know anything about him? > I don't even think I watched Bonanza, although I >know the theme song very well !!!!! Didn't watch Bonanza??? You must be under uh, 40 anyway. Bonanza WAS TV for me, as a youngster. It was what the weekend was all about, along with Ed Sullivan. > >We Dig Mancini The Anita Kerr Quartet RCA LPM 3428 1965 >I have a feeling I may not like this one, especially because it has an >endorsement from Arthur Godfrey which calls it "a beautiful album." >However, I have been interested in vocal groups which do Mancini or music >by other talented composers/arrangers. Well if you like that, then you should like this. I particularly like the version of Baby Elephant Walk. Does anyone know anything about Anita Kerr? I really think she belongs in the pantheon. She's done some of my favourite vocal arranging but she also did some great orchestral arrangements on those Rod McKuen spoken word records, whatever you think of the concept. And while I'm on the subject of women in the pantheon, who's Ethel Gabriel? (Something tells me I'm going to find out that Ethel was a man.) Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) ENO Date: 10 Jan 2000 13:20:22 -0000 Nat Kone mentioned Eno (I got 5 digests over the weekend, you have all been busy, I'm not wired up at home). And during the time I spent away from the PC one of my friends played me Brian Eno's version of 'Wimoweh (the lion sleeps tonight)'.Brian Eno's version of 'Wimoweh (the lion sleeps tonight)'. When I saw it at the front of the pile , I did an immediate double take (still doing it, its just too absurd). Eno has always struck me as being far too serious and up his own arse to bother with Easy stuff like this, especially as it was recorded in 73, when the whole genre would have been completely beyond the pale. To be honest its terrible. the drums sound like a home organ present, the instrumentation is uninspired, and his singing voice is a little on the Alison Stratton side. Its not even particularly synthy. I was very disappointed when I eventually got my friend to play it. Considering that he'd just come from Roxy Music and was soon to record 'Low' the lack of there anything interesting about it is the most interesting thing about it. What was he thinking? Apparantly it sold very badly (perhaps that was what). El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) record habits Date: 10 Jan 2000 08:27:16 -0500 At 09:50 PM 1/9/00 -0700, kendoll wrote: > >m.ace wrote: > >> The other thing I like about alphabetical filing is the juxtapositions it >> creates. > >i too am fond of the shelf-mates that alphabetical filing creates. in my >collection Barry White is next to Slim Whitman and Andy Williams, Isaac Hayes >to Heino & Heintje. Again I feel the need to speak up for the by-genre organizers. Filing in alphabetical order assumes - and creates - a certain attitude towards your records. It means you're usually looking for a particular record or artist when you approach the shelves. And it means that occasionally there'll be a side effect whereby you're looking for Isaac Hayes but you end up playing Heino. There's nothing wrong with that. It's just that it would require a totally different attitude towards my records for me to do it that way. And it's not just that on the rare occasion when I think "What do I want to hear?", that I usually think of a genre before I think of an artist. It's also that - and here I suspect I'm alone - I look at each of the shelves as sort of artificial (and random) "limiters" on the number of records I allow myself to keep in each genre. So when I look at the two-and-a-half feet of "exotica, Hawaiian, etc" shelf space and it's almost fully packed, I know that I have to decide which ones I really don't need. It's artificial but it works for me. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Martin Denny on NPR Date: 10 Jan 2000 07:50:21 -0600 Check out today's Morning Edition on NPR for an interview with Martin Denny! It runs at 10 minutes before the hour in the second hour of the show. Check your local NPR station. Darrell Brogdon dbrogdon@ukans.edu The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: Re: (exotica) Do I detect some rust? Date: 10 Jan 2000 13:51:34 -0000 br cleve said I think that's what the point was of the discussion. This was started by questions about why the list had changed, why certain people weren't posting much or why folks like Jill were leaving or Jack wasn't coming back. Another thing is that a couple of years ago, this was about the only list looking at Italian soundtracks (I'd just bought Pierro Umiliani's 'Today's sound', and this list was the only reference I could find for him on the search engines) and Exotica and strange Japanese pop, and now we have others that have spun off from here (Spectropop and Popnouveau, say), you may get them discussed there rather than here. Its the same with a lot of things, theres been talk of micro-genres recently and now some of them have their own lists and have become genres in their own rights. And what starts out as an open armed inclusive thing slowly refines its self image until it finds itself straightjacketed and dies (or becomes just too boring). Not that I've seen that here, I was just thinking in terms of say, house music that once you could go to a party and hear some hardcore, some trance, some garage, a bit of this, it just evolved and split, and you end up stuck listening to banging trance all night or whatever, and you realise that the openness that attracted you to it has gone and the mental blinkers are on and its time to move on. Again, not that I feel this way about the list yet. Sad to see Jill go of course, but if you're moving on you' e moving on. if the list is in step great. Otherwise Its not the end of the world. Good to see people coming back after a very slow December, Keith, Steve, Nicola, Br Cleve, Citizen K, as well as the new blood. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) List approval! Date: 10 Jan 2000 13:58:04 +0000 I have to say that the list seems to have come into its own in the last week or two. Monday morning at work, checking my emails and the list seems abuzz with high activity. Nobody knew anything about the Cannabis or Mary Jane soundtracks (or did I post that one in a dream?) but never mind. The list suddenly sparkles like some bonza coke. Who needs to bring back those unfortunate souls who have departed! Viva Exotica! Thats what I say. I thoroughly approve of this trading idea but I don't have a CD player. Can I make a minidisk and ask somebody to burn a CD from it? I intend to make a minidisk this week with (and this will shock anybody who has traded with me before) a track listing! I'm on the case. Cheers all, Charlie charles_moseley@mckinsey.com +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Dennies, Again Date: 10 Jan 2000 07:04:48 -0800 (PST) Hey, just a reminder that we're still accepting nominations for the Dennies. Here's the categories: Best act (artist or group) Best new album (not re-release; not compilation; not soundtrack) Best re-release (legitimate or bootleg) Best retrospective - single artist/act Best compilation - various artists Best box set - single or multiple artists Best soundtrack (new or re-release) Best new act (artist or group) Big Kahuna Achievement Award Golden Album Award Everyone's been really good at nominating multiple artists, so we're getting a good cross section. On the other hand, the SECOND most important thing is that we get a lot of people responding, which hasn't happened yet. Maybe four. Remember, if you can't remember what came out in 1999, visit Johann's site! Really, you oughta visit it anyway, because it reminded me of all the cool stuff that came out that I need to stick on my "to purchase" list. Also, if you already nominated, but suddenly remember someone else you want to include, feel free. Please nominate! Thanks, Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) Breakbeat and Sway Date: 10 Jan 2000 15:09:49 -0000 Br Cleve mentioned Mucho Mambos version of 'Sway', until Saturday the only version of the song I'd heard, does anyone know where the vocal comes from? I don't think its credited on the sleeve, and I'd be surprised if they got someone in, its not the way the genre normally works. The version I heard on Saturday was in the film 'Dark City', quite good in a Matrix meets Hammer 70's paranoia way, where they play it in a smooth, sequined, Jazzy nightclub version. Anyone an idea on the definitive version? And as for the big chunks of sampled stuff, theres the usually maligned when mentioned here Bentley Rhythm Ace track (which i love, a sense of humour on a modern dance record, who'd've thought), and a lot of Norman Cooks stuff takes that approach, not just fatboy Slim. Theres bits crop up all over the place, some Beastie Boys stuff for example, and the obvious beck things (that big chunk from 'the Moog and me'). I don't think its hard to find even if you limit yourself to 'pop' stuff. its firing today. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) ENO Date: 10 Jan 2000 09:49:10 -0500 At 8:20 AM 1/10/0, Reader Geoff wrote: > one of my friends played me Brian Eno's version of 'Wimoweh (the lion >sleeps tonight)'.Brian Eno's version of 'Wimoweh (the lion sleeps tonight)'= . >To be honest its terrible. ... >What was he thinking? El Maestro, he was thinking, Let's have a bit o' fun. Plus hadn't Eno been pillaried already for his crappy singing? And what better way to thumb his nose at the critics than to sing a song that jumps octaves? Yeah, his Wimoweh is pretty stinky. But to my ears it's better than the sanfordized, starched and pressed version Disney inflicted on the world. Still like the original (by the Tokens??) best. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) record habits Date: 10 Jan 2000 10:15:20 -0500 At 8:27 AM 1/10/0, Nat Kone wrote: >And it's not just that on the rare occasion when I think "What do I want to >hear?", that I usually think of a genre before I think of an artist. I generally think of songs or sometimes a specific sound I want to hear...so I organize my records by genre and sometimes by instrument. Exotica by Fake Hawaiian by Real Hawaiian, etc. Soundtracks by movie theme cover compilations, with some exceptions: all Mancini together, for example, regardless of genre. Have never alphabetized. Every so often, will also organize by label, too--like with 4AD or Command records. There's something profoundly satisfying about seeing all those fat white Command gatefold spines lined in a plump row. Genre organization still tosses some posers...like Wanderly. Stash those disks in Organs or in Bossa? I actually enjoy wrestling with such questions. Also realized my system could be eccentric because I'm the sole user of my records. >It's also that - and here I suspect I'm alone - I look at each of the >shelves as sort of artificial (and random) "limiters" on the number of >records I allow myself to keep in each genre. Makes tons of sense to me, Nat, but then I do it too. Just don't have that much space and the method forces me to clear out the chaff. And who cares if it's artificial as long as it works? Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat and Sway Date: 10 Jan 2000 15:28:36 +0000 Wasn't the original Sway tune used in a Eurostar ad? And does anybody know what the 'Check it out now, funk soul brother' sample comes from originally? The countless easy/soundtrack/wierd jazz samples in British dance music are just getting too numerous to list. From Portishead to Norman to Pulp to the Freestylers. Its everywhere and the Americans seem to be so bogged down in restrictive laws that US artists are having trouble with drum samples these days. There are a few hip hop sample reference archives on the web and they are very comprehensive. I think if you tried to do the same with British dance music, you'd soon lose yourself. My chum is about to do an easy/soft house track using Astrud's Girl from Ipanema - sample based, resung and housed up. Where will it end? Charlie charles_moseley@mckinsey.com +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Wimoweh (was: Eno) Date: 10 Jan 2000 11:04:37 -0500 (EST) At 09:49 AM 1/10/00 -0500, Mimi wrote: > Still like the >original (by the Tokens??) best. The Tokens' version was far from the original. Citizen, do you have the track list to the Wimoweh episode of Secret Museum handy? That was a fascinating show -- it would be great if it was archived on-line so everyone could hear it. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jschwart@voicenet.com Subject: (exotica) Nancy Sinatra Date: 10 Jan 2000 11:43:17 I really like a lot of Nancy Sinatra records. It's probably mostly for the Hazelwood songs and production, but I think Nancy herself is getting a bad rap here. She may not have her father's voice (who does?), but the "sprechstimme" vocal style (a word I've been waiting to use since learning it in my 20th Century Music class in college; it means half-spoken, half sung) used on "Boots" and subsequent song is SUPPOSED to be kitschy and tongue-in-cheek. On earlier, and several later records, she holds a tune quite nicely, and when I saw her on her comeback tour a few years back (a GREAT show, up there with The Monks and few others as far as satisfying comeback tours), I was surprised with how good her voice sounded. Meanwhile, the campy vocals have a lot of personality and predate the girly singing styles used by so many '90s indie rock chicks (the same can be said about most French pop singers...the French have never preferred technique over style, it seems). I think Nancy Sinatra was always aware of the camp factor her records -- she was no kid when she made "Boots," after several years of singing in public. Watching her old videos, listening to her version of "Run For Your Life," I never laugh AT her, but sometimes smile with her. And I think Lee Hazelwood's songs with her/for her are a lot better than any of his solo material that everyone is raving about now; in fact that's the only reason I started to notice his name, when I first started buying up her records 15 years ago. Hazelwood fans should check out the songs he wrote in the movie THE COOL ONES, especially the fabulous "This Town," a great Tony Hatch style ballad written for the film, later covered by Nancy, AND by Frank! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat and Sway Date: 10 Jan 2000 08:52:32 PST all this talk about breakbeat music has me intrigued. It sounds pretty neat. Can someone supply a list of names/labels etc for future reference when im out buying new music. always looking for new stuff, yu know! -jonathan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) soft pop lyrics Date: 10 Jan 2000 12:03:05 -0500 Here goes a little dictation... I mentioned this article on soft pop a while ago but I was rereading it and came across this (longish) section that I was sure the soft-poppers - and even some others - would be interested in. So here goes. Lyrics are an aspect of original soft pop that could never be brought convincingly into the present. A verbal equivalent of its aural contents, soft pop lyrics exist in blissful ignorance of the turbulent times in which they were created. Utopian at worst in 1969, they now read as downright archaic after 30 years or more of sexual and political upheaval. David Bash describes them best, as reports from "a world without genitals". "This is not meant to be derisive in any way", he laughs from his Los Angeles home, "but there is not one bit of sexual element in soft pop. It's all about romance. It's all about young men and women gazing lovingly into each other's eyes and thinking about how happily-ever-after they'll be". Andrew Sandoval attributes these anti-rock sentiments (rock n roll itself being a euphemism for sex) to the fact that many of soft pop's prime movers came from backgrounds completely outside the rock world. Bones Howe's testimony proves this to be true. "I came out of the jazz world", he admits. "I made disguised jazz records, everybody said. The harmonies in the Fifth Dimension records are like the Four Freshmen (a varsity-sweater wearing G-rated, 50's vocal group). I'd talk about vocal harmonics with Brian Wilson. He'd say 'Oh yeah I really thought the Four Freshmen were so great. They really blew my mind'. Here we were, all sort of stewing in the same pot" But, notes Sandoval, "If it wasn't for the Beatles being popular and therefore, influencing others, I don't think we'd even be discussing this. Even the Beach Boys music got better because of the Beatles. Note that many of the same producers' and songwriters' output prior to and after the Beatles is nowhere near as interesting". Whatever the case, spurred by enthusiasm for the new music or the promise of a fatter paycheque, these "squares" moved into pop, leaving their indelible mark upon all that they touched. Unsurprising then, most modern descendents of soft pop have also never been involved in rock........ Some insights for me anyway. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek Subject: Re: (exotica) Mireille Mathieu Date: 10 Jan 2000 18:14:08 +0100 Moritz R wrote: > Some of you might be interested in the fact that Mireille Mathieu has feet > made of wood. What about her head? Marco -- Marco "Kallie" Kalnenek +------------------------------------------+ Record Collector's Heaven http://weirdomusic.freeservers.com/ +------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Nancy Sinatra Date: 10 Jan 2000 11:40:25 -0500 At 11:43 AM 1/10/0, jschwart@voicenet.com wrote: >I really like a lot of Nancy Sinatra records. It's probably mostly for the >Hazelwood songs and production, but I think Nancy herself is getting a bad >rap here. Thanks, jschwart, for speaking your piece. If I still had Nancy in London I'd send it your way. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: Re: (exotica) record habits Date: 10 Jan 2000 12:32:36 -0500 I love this discussion of record habits. I'm slowly reorganizing the records I moved last July, though we have to move again this July coming and I wonder if it's worth the effort. I used to organize everything by artist, with separate sections for soundtracks and compilations, but, long ago, decided I didn't want the rock records intermingling with the non-rock stuff, so broke them up. And, originally, the difference between rock and non-rock sections had to do with period, but with the explosion of interest in Now Sound and similar things, that stopped making sense. So I have one whole wall which is lounge/exotica/jazz/crooners/easy, etc., and another one which is pretty pure rock. And the country and real jazz go alongside the fake country and fake jazz in the non-rock section, and things like Sonny and Cher or Peter Sarstedt albums can end up in either side, depending on my mood when I'm doing it. That doesn't always help me find things when I want them. All these sections are alphabetical, but then I decided it was stupid to file the Hawaiian records that way, since I could scarcely remember most of the artists' names, and so I put those all together. And then I did the same with Command, Project 3 and Time, but, for some reason, not with Studio 2 albums. And I decided to separate all the Canadian stuff, since there are evenings with friends when I pull out my weird Canadian albums and spread them all over the floor for us to marvel at. Compilations are different, though. I have long filed those in chronological order (by period covered), since I think of them in that way. And I'm about to do that with my few thousand 12" dance singles, since, when I want an early 1990s hip-house track for some reason, I'm not always going to remember some DJ's name. Does this mean I break up the Pet Shop Boys' 12-inchers, though, or all the Soft Cells, and file them by date rather than by artist? I'm stuck on this one. I insist on listening to LPs all the way through, especially when I've just bought them, and I won't let myself file them until I've done so. I write down the titles of interesting tracks, under headings I've devised for this purpose -- categories like "urban nocturnes," "crime jazz," "spooky" and so on, thinking that one day I'll make fabulous compilations which would make even Nat Kone flush with respect and envy. Will Will Straw Associate Professor and Director, Graduate Program in Communications http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark D. Head" Subject: (exotica) Brass Ring Remix Date: 10 Jan 2000 11:34:16 -0600 Thinkmatic@aol.com wrote: I'm going to go out on a limb here and risk being unneces- sarily critical. When I saw this post, I immediately went to listen because I love the song. But I'm finding myself quite disappointed. (Roy, your remix is simply what's triggered me to write) - I will say it is cleverly done, as far as remixes go, and not as weirded out as some I've heard, but here's my key question/criticism: Why would you/anyone want to add a disco-ish/dance-ish/bass 'n' drum-ish overlay to a cleverly cute pop song? Or the other songs that so many seem to be re-mixing these days? I love Brazilian music and saw a remix CD done by Roberto Menescal's son, I think, bought it, and was totally put off and disappointed. Here's my point - The Disadvantages of You was not intended to be a dance song - why make it one? The Brazilian remixes ruined that beautiful bossa nova, in my opinion. I got another remix CD from Europe through Totall Recall, I think, and it was the same way, trying to turn all kinds of non-dance music into a "house" sound or something sufficiently different from the original as to render it almost unlistenable - and it's not that I don't like to dance or go to clubs or Eighteenth Street Lounge-type music, or Dimitri from Paris' Stylish Girl, etc. But I can't think of a single remix I've heard that I like better than the original. Now, there are reMAKES that I've heard that are great. Hell, there are so many covers of so many songs I wouldn't know where to start. But remixes in general aren't doing much for me. I'll caveat this by saying there are new songs that have various remixes done, many of which are fine. I'm limiting these comments to, mainly, 60's or 70's established tunes being remixed to become "danceable." So Roy, this isn't directed at you personally, but at the concept. -- Mark D. Head The Captain Lane stripes and traffic lights are merely suggestions. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brett Leveridge Subject: Re: (exotica) Martin Denny on NPR Date: 10 Jan 2000 13:04:49 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Darrell Brogdon wrote: > Check out today's Morning Edition on NPR for an interview with > Martin Denny! It runs at 10 minutes before the hour in the second > hour of the show. Check your local NPR station. To hear that Denny profile in RealAudio, go here: http://search.npr.org/cf/cmn/cmnpd01fm.cfm?PrgDate=01/10/2000&PrgID=3 Brett ******************************************* Watch for Brett Leveridge's new book, "Men My Mother Dated, and Other Mostly True Tales," coming in the spring of 2000 from Villard Books. http://www.menmymotherdated.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Eno (Wimoweh) Date: 10 Jan 2000 13:16:08 -0500 >When I saw it at the front of the pile , I did an immediate double take >(still doing it, its just too absurd). Eno has always struck me as being >far too serious and up his own arse to bother with Easy stuff like this, I'd suggest a spin of "Here Come The Warm Jets" and "Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy" -- he was wonderfully silly back in those days. And of course the yodeling single, "Seven Deadly Finns". And for a while there (circa "Another Green World" maybe), he did seem to have a thing for chintzy rhythm machines. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) Radley Metzger and Happy Balloons Date: 10 Jan 2000 13:50:06 -0500 A whole bunch of Radley Metzger films have come out - on DVD too! - and I've been working my way through them. There were no credits for music so does anyone have any idea who did the music for "The Alley Cats"?? Some of it sounds very familiar, like something by Billy Mure or Santo and Johnny but with this "gloop gloop" guitar sound reminiscent of Vinnie Bell. Not that I'm ever going to find some soundtrack LP but if there were a soundtrack CD compilation... On a completely different note, I heard this compilation on Siesta called "Sombrero" and first of all, I can't tell if it's old stuff, new stuff, both. It seems newish but then again there's a Free Design cut. Anyway there's this cut by The Happy Balloon called "Frightened Girl" which I thought was boss. Sort of sounded like Luna but a bit more soft pop and bossa nova thrown in. Anyone know if they have a whole record? And does Siesta have a website? I tried the likely combinations of www. and siesta and had no luck. Brian and Cheryl? What about it? Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Radley Metzger and Happy Balloons Date: 11 Jan 2000 00:55:27 -0600 >And does Siesta have a website? I tried the likely combinations of www. >and siesta and had no luck. http://www.siesta.es/ingles/indexin.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Happy Balloons & Siesta Date: 10 Jan 2000 11:13:24 -0800 (PST) The exotica list is alive and well. I have never seen so many interesting posts that I want to respond to. Siesta always catches a must reply from me. I posted about Sesta's website last Friday its at http://www.siesta.es Sombrero is a magnificant collection of the Modern day Siesta artists. I like it more than any other Siesta collection except maybe "Aperitivo" Its actually better than Expresso Expresso which was my collection of the year a few years back. Sombrero is a collection, a smpler, of modern Siesta artists from their newest or soon to be released albums. Sometimes they throw in an odd tidbit. Unfortantely I do not know about Happy Ballon's album, but Siesta has its fingers in many bowls. They are not listed on the Siesta site. I find it amazing that Siesta can put Free Design on its modern soft pop collections and they seem to fit right in. Your observation Nat that you are not sure if these are new or old songs is interesting. Siesta and the El/Cheery Red label have a sound that is only a little different from the soft pop we have been talking about from the 60's. I highly recommend Sombreo to any fan of soft pop music. Almost every song on it is really great soft pop or bossa with that gentle suave cool verve label feel that Siesta has captured so well. I will definietly put this on my list to Peter Risser, which is such a great idea. Siesta is living proof that modern soft pop is alive and helathy. Viva Exotca Chuck On a completely different note, I heard this compilation on Siesta called > "Sombrero" and first of all, I can't tell if it's old stuff, new stuff, > both. It seems newish but then again there's a Free Design cut. > Anyway there's this cut by The Happy Balloon called "Frightened Girl" which > I thought was boss. Sort of sounded like Luna but a bit more soft pop and > bossa nova thrown in. Anyone know if they have a whole record? > And does Siesta have a website? I tried the likely combinations of www. > and siesta and had no luck. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Help! RF problems Date: 10 Jan 2000 14:18:38 EST In a message dated 1/10/0 1:21:32 AM, bag@hubris.net wrote: >Short of having my entire electrical system redone (which I eventually will >do someday), what can I do to minimize the RFI or eliminate it? If I can't >can't get this fixed, I can't produce a program with records anymore...in >other words, I can't produce a program! > >Your ideas, no matter what, are appreciated. It is most important that you get the system redone pronto. I'm on my third house (yes Nat I am older than you AND rich beyond belief too!) and I've done it each time. It never cost me more than $2500, and that was when I needed three redone rooms rewired up through the walls as well. Not chump change to be sure, but you most likely just need a new circuit breaker box (100 amps should be fine) which is grounded and new outlets for the thicker plugs in operation since the early 8T's. I suspect your wiring is probably ok. If you have serious production needs, have your electrician run you two GFC outlets to your area of production (hopefully near your circuit breaker box) which should handle everything. Have someone recommend you the electricians and take 3 bids. Go with the one you have the best rapport with and don't pay him the final installment (1/3 usually) until you're satisfied the job is done properly....Jimmy Botticelli # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) ENO Date: 10 Jan 2000 14:25:08 EST In a message dated 1/10/0 10:35:31 AM, mimim@texas.net wrote: >Still like the >original (by the Tokens??) Actually the song ("The Lion Sleeps Tonight") is an old African folk song..Thanks to Thomas "Alien" Uebel for digging up the original in 1985. Jimmy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) record habits Date: 10 Jan 2000 14:48:09 -0500 Glad to see the list active again (although it means it takes way more time to read it, let alone get around to responding to stuff....) So here's how we treat our collection: > I've always been curious as to 'how' the people here listen > to and handle their records. Do you listen to an entire side all the > way through, or just test a couple of spots searching for some cool > sound? Do you alphabetize or otherwise sort your records? Do you pare > your collection down to a few essential LPs, or do you keep most of > them? I usually listen to a record or CD all the way through - if I have the chance, I will listen to bits of it first before buying it (this only works with CDs, not LPs), so I have an idea of what to expect. But I like to listen to a new acquisition all the way through at least the first time. Usually, I make mental notes on it if a particular piece gives me an idea for a Space Bop show (which I of course never write down, and proceed to forget the majority of...) Of course, I also read magazines cover to cover, from beginning to end, so maybe I'm just a little anal-retentive... We used to keep our records in categories, and then by alphabetical order, but it got too complicated - we would forget which category something was in, and then the categories started increasing, so now everything is alphabetical, with compilations under "various" in alphabetical order. We also have a database with everything listed, so if I forget the name of an artist, or title of an album, I can always reference it by checking the database. Brian has just added some categories to the database, for additional cross-referencing, which will be helpful - it's the biggest pain going when we try to compile a special show (ie - christmas or halloween) and can't remember everything in the collection that would be relevant (inevitably I find something that we forgot about and therefore didn't include, the day after the show has been aired, and kick myself) And we keep most of our LPs - once a year or so we try to pare down the collection, just getting rid of the duds we bought - we're running out of room for stuff, but that in itself wouldn't prompt me to get rid of anything. I try to be a little more selective about LP purchases, although Brian has been known to get carried away, especially if the word schlager is involved... ciao, cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) Anita Kerr Date: 10 Jan 2000 15:05:04 -0500 From the liner notes to "And Now from.. The Anita Kerr Orchestra". "Anita Kerr is a tiny little lass. Nice, like tiny littles are supposed to be nice. Young and maybe a little shy. She has a soft little voice. And if a drummer asks her what he's supposed to play from bar ten to fourteen, this tiny little cuddly thing will bend over her score for a moment, smelling of lilac you can bet. And then, in her soft little voice, like pretty Miss Amy Jensen who taught you fingerpainting, she'll say "Why not..." and then she'll pause, as if she's afraid to hurt anyone's feelings and then say very, very slow... "Why don't we try triplets there?" And the odd thing is, nobody giggles when she says it. Because she's Anita Kerr, the Indira Ghandi of the music world." Get it straight, is she Indira Ghandi or is she Claudine Longet? And who's Miss Amy Jensen? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Martin Denny on NPR Date: 10 Jan 2000 15:09:39 EST is this a repeat? didn't they record this a couple of years ago? i have yet to listen to it completely, the realaudio link keeps messing up, but i seem to remember hearing this before. tb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek Subject: (exotica) 2280 music links Date: 10 Jan 2000 21:28:33 +0100 Lost of interesting links on this site: http://www.fmi.uni-passau.de/~schneide/music/music.php3 Enough to keep us busy for a couple of days! Marco -- Marco "Kallie" Kalnenek +------------------------------------------+ Record Collector's Heaven http://weirdomusic.freeservers.com/ +------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Anita Kerr Date: 10 Jan 2000 14:28:21 -0600 Speaking of Anita Kerr, an old pal of mine, who used to be an announcer in the so-called Golden Days of Radio, remembers working at a Memphis radio station in the 1940s. The Grilli family, mainly Mama Grilli, had a regular radio show on which the various sons and daughters used to perform. One of the Grilli daughters was a good enough keyboard player to be hired as the station's staff pianist while still in her teens. She eventually left the station to hit the club circuit as a pianist and my friend lost track of her. Years later, he was astounded to learn she'd grown up to become Anita Kerr! Darrell Brogdon dbrogdon@ukans.edu The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) Sukia Date: 10 Jan 2000 12:48:45 -0800 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Robbie Baldock > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 3:15 PM > But apparently Sukia are no more. However, I > know of at least three side projects which may or not be still on the > go: > DJ Me DJ You DJ Me DJ You also recently collaborated on a bunch of tracks on Takako Minekawa's "Fun9" album (lots of fun, by the way, though not as bleepy as "Cloudy Cloud...") Later, Ben http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/ ICQ# 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: (exotica) Re: Breakbeat and Sway Date: 10 Jan 2000 12:47:37 -0500 At 10:09 AM -0500 1/10/00, Reader Geoff wrote: >...Mucho Mambos version of 'Sway', .... >does anyone know where the vocal comes from? It's credited on the sleeve as Donna Canale. The artist is actually Shaft, not Mucho Mambo as I wrote before. Skeewiff's remix on the 12" is my fave of the 4. And yes, it was used in a television spot. >Anyone an idea on the definitive version? I'd vote for the original by Dean Martin, although Julie London has a nice version as well. I mentioned this one before, but if anyone's looking for a good intro to the world of breakbeat, you must find the album "Kinky Beats" on the Lacerba (UK) label, available in both LP and CD formats. It features new break tracks interspersed with 70's Now Sound and funky breaks (like the Incredible Bongo Band's version of 'Apache'). Other highly recommended LP's include "El Grand Ritmo de Mike Young"- Mike Young (Donna Lee, UK), "Muy Rico!" - Jacknife Lee (Pussyfoot, UK), "Fusa Riot" - Bobby Hughes Experience (Ultimate Dilemma, UK), "Conga Heaven, Bongo Hell" - Los Chicharrons (Tummy Touch, UK), "Confessions of a Selector" - Tim "Love" Lee (Tummy Touch, UK), "It's A Finger Lickin' Thang" - V.A. (Finger Lickin', UK). Other labels to keep an eye out for include Marble Bar, FSUK, Wall Of Sound, Jalapeno, and Faith & Hope. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) burning idea Date: 10 Jan 2000 13:02:32 -0800 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Nat Kone > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 1980 3:23 PM > So that Tommy Roe and the Sandpipers might be soft pop but The Association > would be sunshine pop. > I think that would actually be a worthwhile distinction. The babadaba rule works pretty well. As a result (correct my ramblings if I'm wrong): Soft Pop (woops, almost wrote "soft poop" back there): The Poppy Family, but not the Cowsills? It's A Beautiful Day may be considered psych because of their Fillmore associations, but they were definitely soft pop. And Bread was definitely soft pop, despite their hippie/folk leanings. If the Sandpipers are soft pop, then the Lettermen, who were a tad more hard-edged than the 'pipers (hard to think about them that way) are probably closer to -- well, I don't know. (Which reminds me: their Vegas medley of "Goin' Out Of My Head / Can't Take My Eyes Off You" is surely the best rendition ever of "Goin' Out Of My Head," with the exception of Richard Hayman's. It's such a wonderfully... earnest version.) And is there a specific time period for this? Does it stretch to, say, Melanie? Or, even further, Tiffany? (Nah, the latter's definitely bubblegum.) Just rambling, Ben http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/ ICQ# 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jschwart@voicenet.com Subject: (exotica) Nancy In London Date: 10 Jan 2000 16:21:24 On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:40:25 -0500, mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) wrote: >Thanks, jschwart, for speaking your piece. If I still had Nancy in London I'd send it your way. Mimi Thanks all the same but I do have that one anyway. It's probably one of her weakest albums. I'll agree that hearing it was a major letdown in contrast to the promising album cover. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: (exotica) Wimoweh Date: 10 Jan 2000 22:50:21 +0100 I don't know how many of you are familiar with the British comedy show "I'm sorry I haven't a clue" (ISIHAC), it's a hilarious show with items such as the inexplicable game "Mornington Crescent" (MC), "One song to the tune of another" (1STTTOA, the Xmas show had a round of free mudslinging at Sir Cliff by doing Bachelor Boy to the tune of Auld Lang Syne and the other way around as well) and "Pick up song" (PUS), where members of the panel sing along with a song, then the volume is turned down, and they have to try to be in sync when the volume is turned up again. One of the glorious moments of this game was Jeremy Hardy's version of Wimoweh, with the rest of the panel joining in on the Wimoweh's. I've sent it to Johan a while ago and have now put it on my site for your listening pleasure...: http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto/jeremy_lion.mp3 Cheers, Ton *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) Wimoweh (was: Eno) Date: 11 Jan 2000 08:56:12 +1100 on 11/1/00 3:04 AM, Lou Smith at nytab@pipeline.com wrote: > > The Tokens' version was far from the original. Citizen, do you have the > track list to the Wimoweh episode of Secret Museum handy? That was a > fascinating show -- it would be great if it was archived on-line so everyone > could hear it. This from the back of a Pete Seeger album. "Wimoweh comes from South Africa. I learned it from one of a batch of phonograph records loaned me by Alan Lomax who found them in the New York office of Decca records. It was a pop hit in Johannesberg in the Forties recorded by Solomon Linda and his Evening Birds, a quintet of men who sang unaccompanied, in the traditional Zulu fashion...." Philip # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "carrie mazzucca" Subject: (exotica) is this three suns -ish? Date: 10 Jan 2000 16:53:58 CST hi i picked up the grand award "hammond organ spectacular" this weekend, (a mere .20 cent investment) and am mesmorized by the sound this super lp has. it seems to have that rare sound similar to the three suns. did the boys work with enoch light at all. (the liner notes are no help) they just mention the band as "the specataculars" probably a made up name enoch light used that day. the arrangements are great. look for it though, its a gem carrie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JayMan282@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) exotica questionaire Date: 10 Jan 2000 18:38:41 EST 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Not really, but I can sing and I am going get some formal instruction in a few weeks. > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Pretty much capitol's ultra lounge series is what got me into this stuff. > > 3. This list could help you more by... I could learn things from all you knowledgeable folks. Maybe I'll even contribute once in a while. > > 4. Other exotica/things you collect I would do that too, but don't have the room and/or knowledge of where to look. > > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like: Well, pop vocal/standards type music in my favorite. Sinatra, Nat Cole, Keely Smith, Julie London, etc. I also like jazz and big band stuff too. everything else is somehow related directly or indirectly to this list I guess. You know, stuff like Henry Mancini, Nelson Riddle, Martin Denny and so forth. > > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? ??????? > > 7. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it > or > > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? > I own one Hawaiian Shirt. > > 8. Shaken/stirred? Stirred. I like Martinis... >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Wimoweh (was: Eno) Date: 10 Jan 2000 18:05:23 -0500 So were the Tokens African? Please wise ones speak up! Thanks, Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) is this three suns -ish? Date: 10 Jan 2000 18:31:14 -0500 At 4:53 PM 1/10/0, carrie mazzucca wrote: \ >i picked up the grand award "hammond organ spectacular" this weekend, (a >mere .20 cent investment) and am mesmorized by the sound this super lp >has....the arrangements are great. Agreed, Carrie. Plus this LP has one of the BEST cover illustrations...a tuxedoed guy lighting a smoke while a redhead in a cocktail dress seated before him benignly smiles into the middle distance. People have actually offered me $$ for it on the basis of the cover alone. Anyone have a scan of the art on a website? I'd not made the Three Suns connection, but you're right. Clarifies why there's nothing on the jacket about "The Spectaculars." The song list is rather Sun-ish too: Song of India, Pennies from Heaven, if I recall correctly. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: Re: (exotica) Wimoweh (was: Eno) Date: 10 Jan 2000 19:23:40 -0500 Thanks, Lou, 1) trying to set up an archive at the secret museum site... 2) imbobe (spelling questionable): at least 3 takes known, great interesting story, the "melody" of lion sleeps tonight ("in the jungle etc.") was one improvised phrase on one of the takes! Lots of tales of the copyright issues of the song and lyrics, involving gordon jenkins, blah blah. 3) there is no #3. ck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Wimoweh (was: Eno) Date: 10 Jan 2000 18:23:03 -0600 >So were the Tokens African? Please wise ones speak up! Thanks, Mimi No. They were a pop combo from Brooklyn. See a picture of them here: http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=7:12:38|PM&p=amg&sql=A203721 Like "Rockin' Robin", "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" was a song that was a hit several times over. The Weavers, The Tokens (twice! Once in the sixties, again in the seventies). My favorite version can be heard at the beginning of the film "Coming to America", performed by Ladysmith Black Mambazo. I have not heard the Solomon Linda and his Evening Birds version (thanks Mr. Jackson), but I am guessing that LBM's version is similar. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lang Thompson Subject: Re: (exotica) Wimoweh Date: 10 Jan 2000 20:37:44 -0500 >"Wimoweh comes from South Africa. I learned it from one of a batch of >phonograph records loaned me by Alan Lomax who found them in the New York >office of Decca records. It was a pop hit in Johannesberg in the Forties I wonder if this means that it in fact was NOT a folk song but a pop song that Americans (or at least Lomax & Seeger) thought was a folk song. This seems to happen much more often than most people would think since ethnomusicologists and/or folk music collectors tend to have a sparse knowledge of pop music. (There's a funny story in one of Robert Cantwell's books about a conference he attended where some musicians performed an ancient folk song they'd just collected but apparently only Cantwell realized that it was actually a Tin Pan Alley tune.) LT Full Alert Film Review http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/fafr.htm Funhouse http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/funhouse.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Wimoweh (was: Eno) Date: 10 Jan 2000 20:45:45 EST In a message dated 1/10/0 6:51:37 PM, mimim@texas.net wrote: >So were the Tokens African? actually they were vocal group originally formed as the Linc-Tones at Lincoln High School in Brooklyn in 1956. They consisted of Hank Medress, Neil Sedaka, Eddie Rabkin, and Cynthia Zoitlin. First recorded for Melba in 1956, then Rabkin was replaced by Jay Siegel in the same year. Zoitlin and Sedaka left in 1958, Sedaka obviously for bigger and better Brill Building oriented work and a slew of mega-pop solo hits. Medress then formed Darrell and the Oxfords briefly, but in 1959 he reformed The Tokens with brothers Phil and Mitch Margo. They recorded for Warwick in 1960 ("Tonight I Fell In Love"). They formed their own label, B.T. Puppy, in 1964. Medress later produced Tony Orlando and Dawn and then left The Tokens who continued as a trio and recorded through 1973. "Its A Happening World" is a biggie in the Japanese Soft Pop world. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) Cugie Date: 10 Jan 2000 17:48:46 -0800 >Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 15:49:52 -0500 >From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr >Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring back... >The LP on the top of the stack at Casa Mambo this month is Xavier >Cugat's _Bang Bang_ (Decca)--a record that unfortunately, I'm finding >it a little hard to describe. >It's nothing like Cugat's earlier LPs (generally bland IMHO) It's impossible to generalize about Cugat's records because he went through so many different periods. While Prez Prado hewed to the same sort of blaring brass big band sound throughout his career, Cugat reinvented himself every decade. The early stuff alternates between authentic sounding Cuban rhythms and 40s big band with girl singers. When mambos became the rage, he put out stuff that rivals Prado for wildness. In the mid-fifties, he explored tangos, and later drifted into the easy listening genre. Towards the end, he was doing goofy cha cha adaptations of classical music and 60's pap. The best stuff is the 40s and early 50s stuff when he was at the peak of his success. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204 Glendale, CA 91205 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: Re: (exotica) Wimoweh Date: 10 Jan 2000 21:00:55 -0500 to repeat; the 'melody' of the song (in the jungle the ... jungle the lion sleeps tonight) was an improvised single phrase which appears once in one out of three takes they recorded (very different, different instrumentation). And, simply a melodic musical line - no lyrics. the gist of the song is a paean to the lion, so the words are not too far from reasonably matched to the song. ck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) Multi-Post(tm) Date: 11 Jan 2000 13:11:02 +1100 OK, here's several nuggets in one post to save room for those who are more deserving... Firstly, I've been away from a computer most of December, so I was surprised to hear Jill had 'gone.' Did she give a reason? Unhappy with the list it sounds like? Well, let me be the one to thank EVERYONE who posts to this list, because stuck as I am here in Sydney with all of my belongings held up (3 months on) by Customs in port, this list has been my skinny, multi-hued, fun-packed(mostly), high-tensile LIFELINE to the world I love! Trust me, Maestro, its breadth is its strength. Sure the list will drop some lifers (I'll missya Jill) and pick up some newbies. But it is by far and away the least specialized list devoted to a specialized audience I've ever found on the net. I've been turned on to innumerable cool-ass things thru suggestions made here, and I thought myself pretty damn educated in fringe musics. Hah! The fringe by definition defies education, as Citizen Kafka and I wrote to each other privately. Jumping track totally, I've been interested to read how many of you file your collections. Well, I've got a great opportunity to let you 'alphabetized' folks win me over (when my shit arrives I'll have to set it up!), but I'm a strong proponent, like Nat, in filing by genre. I often stomp over to my CD rack and grab 5 without looking, but reaching towards areas I'm in the mood for...this way I've got that great randomness, but in the styles I wanna hear. Anyway, if I alphabetized, I'd break up the 100 beautiful spines that demarkate my own vinyl-to-CD collection, "ELECTRONIC POP MUSIC". Now, who'd want to do that to a guy? Thanks, again everyone. Keith ******************************* http://www.lobue-art.com The Artwork and Workshops of Keith E. Lo Bue ******************************* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go t