From: Walt Sullivan Subject: (exotica) Re: Tiki Restuarant - The Omni Hut - Smyrna TENNESEE Date: 01 Feb 2000 02:21:12 -0600 A co-worker used to frequent this establishment regularly since she lives in Smyrna. Here is what she remembers: >There was a story on the back of the menu about the proprietor -- >apparently a WWII vet who started the place after returning from service >in Hawaii. It's run by his daughter now. >I guess one of the odder things about the place is that it is "BYOB" (no >kidding... it says it own the menu). I guess they lost their liquor >license somewhere along the way? Until Jan 1, 2000, xxxx by the drink was verboten in Smyrna. She said 'beer' but this might have included liquor in general. She doesn't know if there have been any changes at the Omni Hut due to this. No Tiki mugs that she can remember. But some type of drinks come with those cute little umbrellas that everyone is talking about now-a-days. The walls have some sort of florescent floral motif that was subjected to black light irradiation. Don't know if that constitutes the entire wall covering motif or is used sparingly for effect. But for my money, you can't have enough black light in a room. There is a waterfall inside. She wasn't very specific about the menu - basic Poly stuff - except for the appetizer platter - She really liked that. And the 'flaming volcano ice cream desert' with some sort of combustible material dropped in the caldera. The front door handles are large wooden cylindrical carved things - She couldn't confirm if they were Tikis or not. She couldn't remember anything about background music. If you have any questions, I can pass them along. walt Walt Sullivan The Bill of Rights hws@telalink.net Nashville, Tn Void where prohibited by law # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Whore songs: House of the Rising Sun Date: 01 Feb 2000 12:33:11 +0000 Found these supposedly original lyrics, that seem to support Johan's version:: 1. There is a house in New Orleans They call the Rising Sun It's been the ruin of many a poor girl And me, Oh Lord! was one My mother was a tailor, She sewed them new blue jeans. My lover he was a gambler, Oh Lord, |: Gambled down in New Orleans. :| 2. My lover, he was a gambling man He went from town to town; And the only time he was satisfied Was when he drank his liquor down. Now the only thing a gambling man needs Is a suitcase and a trunk; And the only time he's ever satisfied |: Is when he's on a drunk. :| 3. If I only list'nd when my dear mother said: Beware, my child, when you roam, Keep away from drunkards and all those gambling men, It's best by far to come home. Go and tell my baby sister Never do like I have done, But to shun that house in New Orleans |: That they call the Rising Sun. :| 4. With one foot on the platform, And one foot on the train I'm goin' back to New Orleans To wear the ball and chain. I'm going back to New Orleans My race is almost run; I'm going back to spend the rest of my life |: Beneath that Rising Sun. :| Here's a little discussion about it, I found elsewhere: Posted by The Flying Dutchman on October 22, 1999 at 06:01:47: In Reply to: Original house of the rising sun? posted by ACE on October 21, 1999 at 12:20:17: There is no such thing as 'the original' House Of the Rising Sun. The song is based on a 16th. century British ballad (The Unfortunate Rake). This early version traveled to America where it began a new life in the bars of New Orleans. I've got a very early version by the black female singer Hally Wood, recorded somewhere in the late 20's. It's on the '64 Elektra 4-LP set 'The Folk Box). The original lyrics were very diferent though. House Of the Rising used to be about a brothel, from a prostitute's point of view, but later interpreters cleaned the song up (most notalbly the Animals). So if you want a very early version, check good blues compilations. But Baez, Dylan? No way. Hope this helps! R. Posted by What Do You Know on October 22, 1999 at 19:23:57: In Reply to: Re: Original house of the rising sun? posted by The Flying Dutchman on October 22, 1999 at 06:01:47: The "House of the Rising Sun" is about a parrish prison in La (the state, not the city). They all had "House" names. Every freekin' body thinks it is about a slut house. Get real and get the facts. Posted by Neil E. on October 23, 1999 at 21:44:56: n Reply to: Re: Original house of the rising sun? posted by The Flying Dutchman on October 23, 1999 at 12:50:22: I believe he is thinking of Leadbelly's version. The old blues singer Jesse Fuller once said in an interview that Leadbelly learned the song while in prison and changed the words to reflect his situation at the time. After some inquiry, I learned that a woman, Georgia Turner from Kentucky, is given credit for the song first here in America. Prior to Eric Burdon, it was about a woman. A burnt out prostitute that keeps going back to her former place of employment. Alan Lomax also found some related songs from Suffolk, England. The name 'Rising Sun' also shows up in two other old British songs, both refer to a bawdy house of some sort. ;-) If anyone really wants to argue, hey I'm just passing along what I found. Believe the version you want. Posted by The Flying Dutchman on October 24, 1999 at 11:16:48: In Reply to: Re: Original house of the rising sun? posted by Neil E. on October 23, 1999 at 21:44:56: The Elektra box set comes with a booklet with the printed lyrics of this very early - 20's - version of House Of the Rising Sun and it's clearly from the perspective of a burned out and bitter prostitute, not only complaining about her own fate and that she has to put up with heavy drinking men, but also warning girls 'not to do what I have done.' I'm not looking for an argument either, just like to exchange information, and like to do that with an open mind and a decent attitude. Even when we talk about prostitutes. That's why I made my point in the previous post. Regards, R. Interesting, isn't it? Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) TILT! Date: 01 Feb 2000 22:32:48 +1100 Scott Walker's TILT was the first thing I ever heard by Walker, back in '95 when it came out. I hated it. With a passion. "Who is this goof, trying to sound for all the world like Neil Diamond gone opera..." Especially puzzling to me since I'd read gushing reviews by all the 'good' music press. Ah, well, not for me, said I. Well, soon after, I heard Scott's four classic '60's LP's, and within 2 listens I swore I'd never listen to another person until I died. Sorta. Unbelieveably fantastic. THEN, I dug further back to this mystery bloke's roots to hear the Walker Brothers. It was then that I realized that Scott was on an upward and outward trajectory from the very beginning. The WB's sweet pop was the springboard, and Walker broke the band up at the height of their chart success, to pursue a totally personal vision, indifferent to popular appeal. I soon realized I'd better give TILT a second listen. Man, is it a good thing I did. Knowing the road this guy had come down to get to that point, I think TILT is a completely riveting and searing record. Sometimes harsh jap-noise, sometimes Xenakis-like dread tones, with the occasional very brief and sweet break in the clouds before sinking again. I agree that his voice sounds nothing like the early Scott. In fact, I'd never really know it was the same voice. But it sends chills down your spine, and his over-the-top crooning never had it so cold. So if you can allow yourself three or four listens through the record to acclimate, it will pay off. As 'm.ace' succinctly put it, ain't no sound bytes here, folks...it's gotta run it's eerie coarse. Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Re: Whore songs: House of the Rising Sun (improved formatting) Date: 01 Feb 2000 12:43:36 +0000 Found these supposedly original lyrics, that seem to support Johan's version:: 1. There is a house in New Orleans They call the Rising Sun It's been the ruin of many a poor girl And me, Oh Lord! was one My mother was a tailor, She sewed them new blue jeans. My lover he was a gambler, Oh Lord, |: Gambled down in New Orleans. :| 2. My lover, he was a gambling man He went fromtown to town; And the only time he was satisfied Was when he drank his liquor down. Now the only thing a gambling man needs Is a suitcase and a trunk; And the only time he's ever satisfied |: Is when he's on a drunk. :| 3. If I only list'nd when my dear mother said: Beware, my child, when you roam, Keep away from drunkards and all those gambling men, It's best by far to come home. Go and tell my baby sister Never do like I have done, But to shun that house in New Orleans |: That they call the Rising Sun. :| 4. With one foot on the platform, And one foot on the train I'm goin' back to New Orleans To wear the ball and chain. I'm going back to New Orleans My race is almost run; I'm going back to spend the rest of my life |: Beneath that Rising Sun. :| Here's a little discussion about it, I found elsewhere: Posted by The Flying Dutchman on October 22, 1999 at 06:01:47: In Reply to: Original house of the rising sun? posted by ACE on October 21, 1999 at 12:20:17: There is no such thing as 'the original' House Of the Rising Sun. The song is based on a 16th. century British ballad (The Unfortunate Rake). This early version traveled to America where it began a new life in the bars of New Orleans. I've got a very early version by the black female singer Hally Wood, recorded somewhere in the late 20's. It's on the '64 Elektra 4-LP set 'The Folk Box). The original lyrics were very diferent though. House Of the Rising used to be about a brothel, from a prostitute's point of view, but later interpreters cleaned the song up (most notalbly the Animals). So if you want a very early version, check good blues compilations. But Baez, Dylan? No way. Hope this helps! R. Posted by What Do You Know on October 22, 1999 at 19:23:57: In Reply to: Re: Original house of the rising sun? posted by The Flying Dutchman on October 22, 1999 at 06:01:47: The "House of the Rising Sun" is about a parrish prison in La (the state, not the city). They all had "House" names. Every freekin' body thinks it is about a slut house. Get real and get the facts. Posted by Neil E. on October 23, 1999 at 21:44:56: n Reply to: Re: Original house of the rising sun? posted by The Flying Dutchman on October 23, 1999 at 12:50:22: I believe he is thinking of Leadbelly's version. The old blues singer Jesse Fuller once said in an interview that Leadbelly learned the song while in prison and changed the words to reflect his situation at the time. After some inquiry, I learned that a woman, Georgia Turner from Kentucky, is given credit for the song first here in America. Prior to Eric Burdon, it was about a woman. A burnt out prostitute that keeps going back to her former place of employment. Alan Lomax also found some related songs from Suffolk, England. The name 'Rising Sun' also shows up in two other old British songs, both refer to a bawdy house of some sort. ;-) If anyone really wants to argue, hey I'm just passing along what I found. Believe the version you want. Posted by The Flying Dutchman on October 24, 1999 at 11:16:48: In Reply to: Re: Original house of the rising sun? posted by Neil E. on October 23, 1999 at 21:44:56: The Elektra box set comes with a booklet with the printed lyrics of this very early - 20's - version of House Of the Rising Sun and it's clearly from the perspective of a burned out and bitter prostitute, not only complaining about her own fate and that she has to put up with heavy drinking men, but also warning girls 'not to do what I have done.' I'm not looking for an argument either, just like to exchange information, and like to do that with an open mind and a decent attitude. Even when we talk about prostitutes. That's why I made my point in the previous post. Regards, R. Interesting, isn't it? Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Whore songs: House of the Rising Sun Date: 01 Feb 2000 08:12:57 -0500 About 10 years ago I took a trip to New Orleans - and on my very first afternoon there I took a 'Walking Voodoo Tour of New Orleans' It was a good introduction to the city - got to see Marie Laveau's grave, Congo Square (where the slaves, free blacks, and others met to drum and make music), and a neat Catholic Church that was more 'voodoo' friendly than the churches up north. At one point, our guide stopped, pointed to a building, and said that building was the original 'House of the Rising Sun' I took a picture of the building, but didn't believe him. I got the impression that he was just saying the statement to make the gullible tourists happy. We also went into this drug store museum, where on the walls they had placed various canisters that held various herbs - among them were jars marked Love Potion #11, Love Potion #8, and of course, Love Potion #9. I got a picture of that too, although I doubted the authenticity of it. Still I loved it all - if they are looking for gullible tourists, at least they have the good taste to appeal to the tourists who know a bit of music history. At the time the tour started from the Voodoo museum, which was located on a quiet side street in the French Quarter - you had to make a small effort to get there. Last time I was there, it has been moved to Bourbon Street - where it was visited and regularly crowded by large groups of tourists. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) TOM DISSEVELT Date: 01 Feb 2000 22:35:00 +1100 While I'm pecking away, does anyone on the list have any idea what became of Thomas Dissevelt, the fella who rocked the 'Song of the Second Moon' with Kid Baltan? Alive or dead (Lou?)? Whereabouts? Composing? Inquiring minds just hafta know. Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) House of the Rising Sun Date: 01 Feb 2000 07:30:40 -0800 (PST) Being from New Orleans you'd think I'd know more about this but a friend sent it to me. This was in Gambit a local New Orleans newspaper two weeks ago: "HEY BLAKE, I've taken a number of tours of the French Quarter, and there seems to be a divergence of opinion as to the existance of the famed House of the Rising Sun. Sevral carriage tours feature this as a part of their tours. However, I've heard from a number of tour guides that this is a product f some writer's fertile imagination. What's your view?" JOSEPH DEAR JOSEPH, We love good stories in the Big Easy, so a lot of folks mistakenly believe this one about the house of ill repute made famous by the Animals' song in the 1960s. From time to time, a new version of the story appears, and a recent one about the house that was the "ruin of many a poor boy" involves a madam who operated an establishment at 826-830 St. Louis St. from 1862-74. According to the story, the owner was Marianne LeSoleil Levant, whose name means "rising sun" in French. It seems the house was shut down because the neighbors complained of the noise. But this claim cannot be supported by public records such as city directories from the period. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark D. Head" Subject: (exotica) Four Rooms (Movie) Date: 01 Feb 2000 09:29:48 -0600 Has anybody seen this movie? I don't recall seeing it discussed in recent months, but it appeared to be a few years old. Heavy exotica soundtrack. Tim Roth plays a hotel employee who experiences 4 wildly different groups of people in all sorts of weird, very campy, over the top situations - alternates between groaningly not funny and hysterical, featuring Ione Skye & Madonna as part of a coven (the first segment, and perhaps the funniest), and several other character actors through the 4 segments of the film; Antonio Banderas is in one segment and I just can't recall the balance - but I was quite surprised at how much exotica music courses through this film, although I wouldn't venture to try to name the tunes; I fell asleep before the credits ran.... -- Mark D. Head The Captain _______________________________________ Gettin' nothing but static on Channel Z # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thinkmatic@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) A point of interest Date: 01 Feb 2000 10:34:48 EST In a message dated 01/31/2000 11:06:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, bcleve@pop.tiac.net writes: << Pack 'em up and bring 'em to New York, Roy. That record, along with most of the other 70's F&T titles, are getting up to $40 a piece at the various rare groove stores. >> And Herb Alpert's "Whipped Cream & Other Delights" was selling for twenty-five bucks a copy. And soon after, as it was written in prophecy, the End Time grew nigh and the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse rode into town, peddling Mantovani for a hundred bucks a pop. May God have mercy on their souls, for they know not what they do, -R.G.B. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: Re: (exotica) Shrunken Heads Date: 01 Feb 2000 16:40:35 +0100 A baseball signed by Charles Manson. Original acrylic paintings of Pogo the Clown by John Wayne Gacy. Hand-carved Tibetan funerary skulls embellished in silver. A wooden embalming table from the 1800s. Hundreds of death photos of suicide, homicide and car-crash victims. A bottle of Black Death Vodka. And a Vincent Price shrunken-head apple-sculpture kit in vintage condition. http://www.salon.com/travel/feature/2000/02/01/death/index.html The Museum of Death is located at 6340 Hollywood Blvd., No. 2, Hollywood, CA 90028. Entrance on Ivar Avenue. Admission, $7. Call 323-466-8011. A grand opening celebration is planned for Feb. 14 in honor of Chicago's St. Valentine's Day Massacre. *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits] David Levy,K.N. Singh,Joseph Deighton Gibson Jr. Date: 01 Feb 2000 10:46:33 -0500 *David Levy LOS ANGELES (AP) -- David Levy, the former network executive who created ``The Addams Family'' television comedy, died Jan. 25. He was 87. He was vice president of the television department at the Young & Rubicam advertising agency in the 1950s when ad agencies were pivotal in the development of TV shows. In 1959, Levy became vice president in charge of programming at NBC and he was instrumental in bringing ``Dr. Kildare,'' ``Bonanza'' and the ``Movie of the Week'' to the network. He left NBC in the 1960s. He was best-known as creator of ``The Addams Family,'' which ran on ABC from 1964 to 1966. A critic of excessive sex and violence in television shows, Levy later became a leader of the Caucus of Producers-Writers-Directors, helping to steer the group into supporting strict ratings for television. ---- *K.N. Singh BOMBAY, India (AP) -- K.N. Singh, the ``gentleman villain'' actor of Hindi cinema for more than six decades, died Monday. He was 91. Singh gave up his career as a lawyer in 1937 and brought his robust personality and chilling voice to Bombay, where he joined India's young movie industry. India now makes more movies than any other country. Singh played dandies and bad guys in more than 200 movies and was famous for his pipe-smoking, hat-wearing character of the ``gentleman villain.'' ---- *Joseph Deighton Gibson Jr. HENDERSON, Nev. -- Joseph Deighton Gibson Jr., better known to his broadcast audience as ``Jack The Rapper,'' died Sunday after a lengthy illness. The radio pioneer was 79. Gibson, who began his career in 1945, was known as ``Jockey Jack'' during his early years in radio. He first worked in Atlanta on WERD, one of the nation's first black owned and operated radio stations, in a talk show called, ``Good Morning, Atlanta.'' Gibson pioneered the standup broadcast booth, according to the book ``A Journey Through Black Radio in America.'' ``Gibson thought if disc jockeys stood up, they would project their voices with higher energy, thus he raised all the broadcast studio equipment,'' the book said. As Jack The Rapper, he founded an annual national music conference called ``Family Affair'' and was Motown's first national director of promotions in 1962. He also worked for DECCS Records from 1966 to 1969 and at one time was a vice president of promotions at Stax Records. In 1955 he founded the group National Association of Radio Announcers. In addition to his wife, Gibson is survived by a daughter; a son; a sister; six grandchildren; and eight great-grandchildren. ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Incorrect Music online archives Date: 01 Feb 2000 10:50:29 -0500 Irwin Chusid's Incorrect Music show is now being archived online. Here's the URL and list of available shows: http://www.incorrectmusic.com/audio/archive/ 2000 programs January 26, 2000 Includes: "Candy Pants," "I Just Want to Make Love to You," J&H Productions, "The Answer's 'No' Tonight," Spring Glen Grade School Orchestra. Selected 1999 programs December 15, 1999 Includes: James "Rebel" O'Leary, "Curly Toes," "Song of the Burmese Land," Xaviera Hollander, Patricia Brady-Danzig. December 8, 1999 Includes: Leonard Nimoy, Y. Bhekhirst, B.J. Snowden, Patricia Brady-Danzig, "Moon Pilot." June 16, 1999 Includes: Wooshi Spkomoto, special self-love set, "Michael Ferrucci," "Boys Boys Boys." June 9, 1999 Includes: Ed McMahon, Little Lisa, "Crown Heights Pogrom." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) TOM DISSEVELT Date: 01 Feb 2000 11:15:18 -0500 "Keith E. Lo Bue" wrote: > While I'm pecking away, does anyone on the list have any idea what became of Thomas Dissevelt, the fella who rocked the 'Song of the Second Moon' with Kid Baltan? Alive or dead (Lou?)? Sorry. All I really know about Tom Dissevelt is that he was a technician at Nat-lab, the first electronic music studio set up at the Philips physics laboratory in Eindhoven, Netherlands. Dick Raaijmakers was another technician there at the same time. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) TOM DISSEVELT Date: 01 Feb 2000 11:25:32 -0500 "Keith E. Lo Bue" wrote: > While I'm pecking away, does anyone on the list have any idea what became of Thomas Dissevelt? Just thought of something. You might be able to get info from NEAR (Nederlands Elektro-Akoestisch Repertoirecentrum), the centre for Dutch electro-acoustic music. Their URL is: http://www.near.nl/near/nearframehoofden.html E-mail: NEAR@near.nl -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Four Rooms (Movie) Date: 01 Feb 2000 12:18:52 -0500 "Mark D. Head" wrote: > Has anybody seen this movie? I was quite surprised at how much exotica music courses through this film, although I wouldn't venture to try to name the tunes; I fell asleep before the credits ran.... -- Mark D. Head The Captain _______________________________________ Cap'n, Cap'n, Cap'n! You mean you don't have the OST CD?? Go here, and all will become clear: http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=12:09:42|PM&p=amg&sql=A229301 -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Four Rooms (Movie) Date: 01 Feb 2000 12:18:52 -0500 "Mark D. Head" wrote: > Has anybody seen this movie? I was quite surprised at how much exotica music courses through this film, although I wouldn't venture to try to name the tunes; I fell asleep before the credits ran.... -- Mark D. Head The Captain _______________________________________ Cap'n, Cap'n, Cap'n! You mean you don't have the OST CD?? Go here, and all will become clear: http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=12:09:42|PM&p=amg&sql=A229301 -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M H Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Whore songs: House of the Rising Sun (improved Date: 01 Feb 2000 12:16:48 +0000 Moritz R wrote: > > There is no such thing as 'the original' House Of the Rising Sun. The > song is based on a 16th. century British ballad (The Unfortunate Rake). ...'rake' implies the subject was male. > Alan Lomax also found some > related songs from Suffolk, England. The name 'Rising Sun' also shows up > in two other old British songs, both refer to a bawdy house of some > sort. ;-) 'The Rising Sun' is a common pub name here. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ponak, David" Subject: (exotica) Scott Walker/Meltdown Date: 01 Feb 2000 11:43:25 -0800 It is my understanding that Scott Walker will be curator of the Meltdown Festival this summer. There is no word about him performing, which seems highly unlikely. If he were, I'd be buying my plane ticket for sure. Speaking of Scott, did everyone hear the wonderful track that he recorded for the soundtrack to the last James Bond film, The World Is Not Enough? It was called "Only Myself To Blame" and it's a wonderful torch ballad in the style of his late 60's work. Not a Scott original, but a good song and an amazing performance. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) $40 Ferrante and Teicher Vinyl Date: 01 Feb 2000 12:12:35 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >At 9:44 PM -0500 1/31/00, Thinkmatic@aol.com wrote: > >>I was just glancing at their Now Sound vinyl and I saw a used VG+ graded copy >>of Ferrante & Teicher's "Getting Together" for $14.99. >Pack 'em up and bring 'em to New York, Roy. That record, along with most of >the other 70's F&T titles, are getting up to $40 a piece at the various >rare groove stores. >br cleve We have record stores like that in LA... No one ever buys anything from them. I don't have many politico-economic principles set in stone, but not paying over $10 for any hunk of vinyl is one of them. $1 or $2 disks I will take a chance on, but a $10 one better be pretty damn good. Even with that resolution, there is still more good music than I can haul home with me. As record collectors we are scavengers of middle America's cast- offs. We should proudly admit that. We shouldn't be party to trying to elevate our status through artificial inflation of prices. See ya Steve See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204 Glendale, CA 91205 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. (Barbara J.) Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) $40 Ferrante and Teicher Vinyl Date: 01 Feb 2000 12:41:14 -0800 >I don't have many politico-economic principles set in stone, but >not paying over $10 for any hunk of vinyl is one of them. $1 or >$2 disks I will take a chance on, but a $10 one better be pretty >damn good. You are fortunate in that you can find what you want and like for so low a price of one or two dollars. I'm not in that position, unfortunately. >As record collectors we are scavengers of middle America's cast- >offs. We should proudly admit that. We shouldn't be party to >trying to elevate our status through artificial inflation of >prices. I'd love to quote this last paragraph the next time someone defends price gouging at auctions (especially eBay) on the A&M Discussion Forum. May I use the quote? I sure could have used that quote this past weekend to backup my statements when that topic was discussed. While they fiercely defend searching cut out bins, thrift stores and the like for inexpensive A&M vinyl, many of the same folks have no problem with an auction seller getting $200.00 and up for a 15 yr. old Herb Alpert CD! Talk about major ripoff. Oh well, off to work now. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj Batman Subject: (exotica) [non entirely offtopic] WDW/Orlando Date: 01 Feb 2000 23:32:39 +0100 hello, I am going to Orlando for a week in march with my girlfriend, to visit Disneyworld and as several times here I've seen discussions on the Tiki Room etc. I'd love some advice (mail me privately:)))) on things to do/see, and especially on restaurants! Particularly, we have read about an expensive one called Victoria and Albert... help anyone?? :)) bye, Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista "Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief" (Bono) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Four Rooms (Movie) Date: 01 Feb 2000 17:47:53 -0800 At 12:18 PM 01-02-00 -0500, Mark wrote: >I was quite surprised at how much exotica >music courses through this film, although I wouldn't venture to try to >name the tunes; I fell asleep before the credits ran... Mainly Combustible Edison with some Esquivel thrown in. For me, the movie is best seen as if it were an anthology series (in fact, one of the stories looks like it was based on one of the more famous episodes of the original Alfred Hitchcock Presents)...a half hour at a time. In general, the movie was not so great but the music was outstanding. I am not sure all of the music actually fit the scene (especially Esquivel's), but it sounds great all by itself. I have seen the soundtrack CD on sale within the last 6 months at closeout prices (5 dollars or less). This is a good CD! Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otto" Subject: Re: Message Bounce: Re: (exotica) Re: Tiki Restuarant - The Omni Date: 01 Feb 2000 20:29:29 -0800 >> OK >> who on the list lives near there or will be traveling through there within >> the next 6 months >> I smell a story here! >> >> Aloha >> Otto >> >> otto@tikinews.com >> www.tikinews.com >> >> ---------- >> >From: Walt Sullivan >> >To: exotica@lists.xmission.com >> >Subject: (exotica) Re: Tiki Restuarant - The Omni Hut - Smyrna TENNESEE >> >Date: Tue, Feb 1, 2000, 12:21 AM >> > >> >> > >> >A co-worker used to frequent this establishment regularly since she lives >> >in Smyrna. Here is what she remembers: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otto" Subject: Re: (exotica) Las Vegas Grind Date: 01 Feb 2000 21:15:58 -0800 >> Hey! That wasn't me on ukulele >> That was my pal King Kukulele! >> But thanks for even thinkin that I would be that talented >> >> thanks for the kind words though >> >> I think the best you can hope for in covering a three-day >> (and I mean 24 hours a day) event and adding a theme host (the great El Vez) >> is to get a TV show that is entertaining (but maybe not totally >> representative) >> >> Aloha >> Otto >> >> otto@tikinews.com >> www.tikinews.com >> >> ---------- >> >From: Reader Geoff >> >To: "'EXOTICA Mailing List'" >> >Subject: (exotica) Las Vegas Grind >> >Date: Mon, Jan 31, 2000, 8:49 AM >> > >> >> > >> >Taped the 'Other Side' documentary on the Las Vegas Grind, Channel 4, >> >Saturday night. Featuring The multi-talented Otto Von Stroheim (Ukelele >> >Yet!), and loosely held together by El Vez. Generally disappointing, Not >> >enough El Vez, Not enough Otto (a bit out of place I thought), and all in >> >all reminded me of too many rockabilly/trash nights spent at the Clarenden >> >Ballroom in Hammersmith during the Early 80's. >> > >> >Now, wheres that pint of Snakebite gone? >> > >> >El Maestro Con Queso # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otto" Subject: (exotica) Date: 01 Feb 2000 22:15:12 -0800 >> OK >> who on the list lives near there or will be traveling through there within >> the next 6 months >> I smell a story here! >> >> Aloha >> Otto >> >> otto@tikinews.com >> www.tikinews.com >> >> ---------- >> >From: Walt Sullivan >> >To: exotica@lists.xmission.com >> >Subject: (exotica) Re: Tiki Restuarant - The Omni Hut - Smyrna TENNESEE >> >Date: Tue, Feb 1, 2000, 12:21 AM >> > >> >> > >> >A co-worker used to frequent this establishment regularly since she lives >> >in Smyrna. Here is what she remembers: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otto" Subject: (exotica) Tiki Gardens, Florida Date: 01 Feb 2000 22:13:24 -0800 Does anyone have the soundtrack to this Tiki amusement park that was bulldozed in the late 80s? I need a copy of it Aloha Otto otto@tikinews.com www.tikinews.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to majordomo@slick.org and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the subject). For web-based help, go to: http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) House of the Rising Sun Date: 02 Feb 2000 12:08:36 +0000 In yet another homepage for Folk music I read a serious looking text, stating that the original is an English folk song from the 18th century called "Rising Sun", which actually was a "whore's lament" already. The original text of "The house Of..." is clearly from a woman's point of view, so it would fit into this theory. The theory that "The House Of the Rising Sun" has something to do with the folk traditional "The Unfortunate Rake" I cannot confirm; this would rather be the original to "St. James Infirmary" and "The Streets Of Laredo". They all are filed however under "Funeral Songs". Nice category, eh? Is anyone out there a bit more familiar with traditional folk music than I am? Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: (exotica) Space Age Don Juan: Managers of the flesh compete for pimp of Date: 02 Feb 2000 13:35:31 +0100 With so much talk about whore songs and New Orleans brothels lately, I consider this to be right on topic... Cheers, Ton A whore's job is to break a pimp down, Ken says, and a nagging prostitute makes a pimp beat her. "But you can only beat a person for so long," he adds. "I tried, but it wasn't easy to jump on someone and then sleep next to her. When I look at most women, I have to consider my mother and the love that I have for her; if it weren't for that, I'd probably be just as cold and callous as other pimps." Now Ken is into space-age pimping, where the philosophy is that a woman stays because of choice, not force. He has to control a woman's mind without physical abuse by selling her a dream. "Besides," he adds, "if you beat a woman and destroy her face, how can she get your money?" http://www.salon.com/health/sex/urge/2000/01/29/pimps/index.html *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jenna K Subject: (exotica) Re: Tiki Restuarant - The Omni Hut Smyrna TENNESEE Date: 02 Feb 2000 08:23:32 -0600 (CST) Hmmm...how far is that from Memphis? I'll be there in March. Which brings me to a question - anyone know of good stuff (hotels, resturants, thrift shops, general postwar weirdness) in Memphis? >> OK >> who on the list lives near there or will be traveling through there within >> the next 6 months >> I smell a story here! ______________________________ I could never be a teetotaler. Imagine waking up in the morning and knowing that's as good as you're going to feel all day. -Dean Martin jenna@hollygolightly.net Bored Ingenue http://www.hollygolightly.net Associate Editor BRUTARIAN Magazine # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kirsten Noel Whitley Subject: (exotica) Tiki Candles Date: 02 Feb 2000 08:31:26 -0600 (CST) For those who must have all things tiki: http://www.fabric8.com/bazaar/710109.f8ml --Kirsten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Leeteg Black Velvet Painting at eBay Date: 02 Feb 2000 10:59:55 -0500 Heads Up, y'all! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=248382339 Currently $430.36 Time left 2 days, 9 hours + -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jane.murray@maclaren.com Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #612 Date: 02 Feb 2000 10:24:49 -0500 I had a strange experience last night - someone told me there is a Tiki bar in Toronto, in a bar I actually used to work at! I was at my local watering hole, babbling about all things tiki as usual, when the guy beside me said 'sorry, but do you mean like the Volcano Room?" and I'm thinking whaaaaaat? So he says "You know, that place on Queen, they have the volcanoes and the flaming torches and the giant wooden carved head statues?" So of course I just go ballistic, asking him a million questions about it, but all he can tell me is it doesnt seem to be that popular, it's too hot, and they play house music. The fact that a tiki bar (albeit new and probably not very good) escaped my attention in my own city - well, this makes me very ashamed. I will go there this saturday and report. I do recall my boyfriend pointing out the palce to me a couple months ago - theres nothing on the outside but a metal door and a sign that says 'the volcano room'- and he said 'Oh, maybe thats a tiki bar' and of course I said, 'nah, if there was a tiki bar in Toronto, I would know about it!!!!' aloha, your humbled tiki hunter, Jane (fishstick) http://www.tikifish.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Leeteg Black Velvet Painting at eBay Date: 02 Feb 2000 09:50:13 PST Do you have her phonenumber? Mag http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=248382339 Currently $430.36 Time left 2 days, 9 hours + -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Leeteg Black Velvet Painting at eBay Date: 02 Feb 2000 09:50:11 PST Do you have her phonenumber? Mag http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=248382339 Currently $430.36 Time left 2 days, 9 hours + -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Whore songs: House of the Rising Sun Date: 01 Feb 2000 19:10:24 +0100 Mo wrote: >"It's been the ruin of many a poor boy..." etc. It still doesn't make sense to >me. Why should a women's prison be the ruin of any poor boy? if a single mother goes to prison, what happens to her kid? anyway, iit's just what I heard, i'm not an authority on this subject;-) Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Gingerich Subject: (exotica)The Conet Project Date: 02 Feb 2000 13:08:01 -0500 Have you heard any of, or do you know anyone who owns "The Conet Project"? my friend was wondering about this. Its a collection of shortwave transmissions used by spies and such... ...In some cases, the person reading the numbers is a "sexy" female adding inappropriate dramatics. Other strings of numbers are read by detached-sounding small children. Occasionally incomprehensible phrases are repeated instead of the usual strings of numbers. (An example, translated from German: "Helmut, Kruse, Franz. Good day! The great 26 is 32. Water good to me. The sunshine is over. Our hen is about to lay one egg.") Other transmissions are in Morse Code. Another station plays both sides of a 1961 Bert Kaempfert 45 before delivering its encoded message. While a CD of this nature may seem to some listeners an unlistenable joke, nearly all the recordings collected here have a otherworldly feel to them that makes for strangely compelling listening, especially when one considers the unsavory possibilities (political assassination) that some of the transmissions may represent. The Foundry seems to be an informative site: more at http://www.foundrysite.com/i.conet.html Has anyone actually heard this stuff? pg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jane Fondle Subject: (exotica) Re: Scott Date: 02 Feb 2000 09:40:12 -0800 (PST) Hi! No, I steered clear of TILT...I hope it is great, but I suspect it is SCARY! Would LOVE to know what others think! Hope all is well in the land of the EXOTIC! Love, Jane Fondle > > Does anyone have anything to say on 'Tilt', his > early 90's LP, I only > found out about t recently from that 'Easy, the > Encyclopedia of Lounge' (or > whatever its called) book, not too good (the book > that is), but it > obviously had something in i didn't know. Jane, > come out from wherever you > are, you're my best bet I reckon. > > > El Maestro Con Queso > > djcheesemaster@yahoo.com > grr@brighton.ac.uk > http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm > http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > ===== "It's just my nature to do weird stuff." - Les Baxter Buy the debut release from Astroslut: LOVE AT ZERO G at: http://cdalley.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Gingerich Subject: (exotica) Bola Sete Date: 02 Feb 2000 13:11:58 -0500 Does anyone have or know of this? SETE, BOLA "Ocean Memories" (Samba Moon) 2cd 21.00 The following is a quote from an article John Fahey wrote about Bola Sete in 1976 (we're reprinting from Forced Exposure's description): "Few living people have had such an enormous influence on my life, my music, my soul, my religion -- you name it -- as has Bola Sete. I first saw him playing -- solo -- in early 1972 at David Allen's Boarding House in San Francisco. That night, I was high on drugs as I had been for several years, and -- as also had been the case for years -- I felt that I was one isolated example of an experimental species that God had forgotten about (I was wrong here). I felt I had been -- and was still -- walking and talking among shadows: 'People' who had no depth, who were not related to themselves, did not know anything about themselves -- endless, phony, shadow-people. And I was one of them. Bola played for about 45 minutes and grimaced and grunted through the whole set. Something was wrong. He couldn't 'get it out.' I knew how he felt, and I understood. Something was wrong. I was intrigued by his obvious frustration having felt that way myself almost all my life. The performance had been mediocre so far. However, the audience gave him a long ovation, and he reluctantly got up and started to play an encore, still looking frustrated, impotent, mad, seething. I knew that feeling well. But then suddenly he got hot. He got so cooking, he played song after song for another 45 minutes, forgetting (or not caring) that he was doing an encore, playing many of the same songs he had just played. My first impression that night, as I told a friend at the time, was this: Here is a man who has lived through hell and somehow miraculously got out of it. I went back to the Boarding House several times that week. I found that Bola's sets have an interesting 'plot.' They all begin and end with songs whose emotional contour is pretty, happy, light, peaceful, or ecstatic. But after the first two or three songs, the terrain gets rougher and darker, heavier and weirder. By the middle of his set, Bola is giving you pictures of hell, memories of perdition, demonic music. But then Bola gradually lightens up the spectrum of feeling and leads you out of the cave and into the sunlight, and life is paradise. Only now, one is so changed that one is temporarily aware that life really is paradise after all, the world is an ocean, etc. It is like a breath from the 19th Century or before; a breeze from times when people had passion and significance and were not mere shadows. It is as though something has finally changed. I talked to Bola's wife (I was too shaken to speak to him at the time). 'How does he keep from going crazy,' I asked her, 'when he has so much energy and tension? You can hear it in his music -- a lot of passion and tension. How did he get out of hell?' ('How can I get out of hell?' That's what I really wanted to know.) His music is so good it's eerie -- eerie because it comes from a different time, a different place, when men felt different things that we can no longer love or experience except as an echo or phantom in the best of art works. Most of Bola's music is eclectic and nongeneric. Take a song like 'Black Mommy.' Now, if you didn't know anything about Bola . . . what musical tradition, period, or era would you guess this song came from? Tasmania? Easter Island? Next door? It comes from everywhere and nowhere. The subconscious really is universal. Bola Sete's music is the best reminder of this that I have ever heard. He is a man of great spirit and great depth. Bola plays percussively, vertically, with a very heavy and insistent thumb. His playing is very masculine (the word is an anachronisism). He plays erratically and restlessly like Boll Weavil Jackson, Blind Lemon Jefferson, or Bill Monroe. But he also has inner peace and breadth . . . rhythm and dynamics are constantly changing. Bola's playing gives the impression (and like my playing it is a false impression) of being very improvisatory. His songs, on the other hand, tend to be very short and terse (unlike mine), without undue repetition. But like me, he tries to recreate each song each time he plays it, which is in effect to destroy it. . . . The only elements of a song, which change from one performance to the next, are the number of repetitions of each idea. The order of the ideas stays pretty much the same. But the speed and intensity at which they are played may vary; if Bola doesn't like the room he is playing in, or the people he is playing for, he tends to play lousy. I do the same. We both play the way we feel, but within a rigid structure. We play that way because we have to -- we can't do anything else. God help us." -- John Fahey, from the article "Bola Sete, The Nature of Infinity, And John Fahey," Guitar Player, Febuary 1976. "Long overdue CD reissue of one of the seminal solo guitar albums -- in any genre -- ever recorded. Brazilian guitarist Bola Sete (Djalma de Andrade) settled on the West Coast in 1959. Throughout the '60s he toured widely with various jazz artists and recorded for such labels as Verve, ABC-Paramount, Fantasy and Columbia. In 1972 he recorded Ocean, a departure so far afield from anything else he'd ever done that Fantasy declined to issue it. In 1975 Fahey purchased the tapes and issued the album on his Takoma label. A second volume drawn from the same sessions was planned but it never materialized. Ocean Memories (issued by Bola's widow, Anne Sete) restores to print the complete Takoma album (CD 1) and the eight previously unissued songs that would have comprised Ocean II (CD 2). I could listen to this music forever -- it's deathless, perfect, ecstatic. It's interesting to compare how different Bola is from Baden Powell and some of his more technically accomplished Brazilian brothers: he's more of a sensualist, a fantasist, and he's looser -- more rock 'n' roll." -- Glenn Jones. thanx, pg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Space Age Don Juan: Managers of the flesh compete for pimp of the Date: 02 Feb 2000 12:29:05 -0500 I think Ken should have a nice session with Joey Buttafuco's ex. In sweetness and light, Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Phillips Subject: (exotica) Re: Memphis Date: 02 Feb 2000 10:11:58 -0800 Jenna K wrote: > Hmmm...how far is that from Memphis? I'll be there in March. Which brin= gs > me to a question - anyone know of good stuff (hotels, resturants, thrif= t > shops, general postwar weirdness) in Memphis? Well, seeing as I grew up there, you'd think I'd be able to help. But so much has changed since then, so I'm not hep to what's happening now.=20 You MUST go to Graceland. Take the house tour. Take both plane tours.=20 You won't be disappointed. TCB. For eats, nothing beats the ribs at the Rendezvous. They invented the dry rub. And a pulled-pork sandwich at Gridley's might be in order for lunch. Also check out the Sun Records tour/museum. I believe there's a record shop on Beale Street, where Elvis shopped for 45s, but they most likely specialize in blues. Speaking of, B.B. King's place can be pretty happening (but full of tourists on weekends). If you can afford it, the Peabody is a pretty swank hotel. They have (or had) this tradition of ducks crossing the street twice a day: once in the morning from the top of the hotel (where there's a pond), down the elevator, and across the street to the park, then back again at the end of the day. You can imagine how exciting this was for a ten-year old (me). If you're interested, the MLK museum at the Lorraine Motel (where he was shot) is first-rate. EZ does it, Jeff Phillips --=20 Director of Concert Production |=AF( http://www.philharmonia.org Philharmonia Baroque Orchestra | \ jphillips@philharmonia.org 180 Redwood Street, Suite 200 | =BA \ phone (415) 252-1288 San Francisco, California 94102 |=86=86=86=86| fax (415) 252-148= 8 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Tiki Restuarant - The Omni Hut Smyrna Date: 02 Feb 2000 13:44:00 -0500 At 08:23 AM 2/2/00 -0600, Jenna K wrote: > >Hmmm...how far is that from Memphis? I'll be there in March. Which brings >me to a question - anyone know of good stuff (hotels, resturants, thrift >shops, general postwar weirdness) in Memphis? > Get the White Trash Guide to Memphis when you're there. You can get it at this store in the middle of Beale Street and probably other places too. It's a short street so you can't miss it. This is an alternative guide to Memphis. Among other things, it led me to look for Furry Lewis's grave. And like most travelling things, looking for it was better than finding it. But I heartily recommend it, even if Furry Lewis isn't a hero of yours. While on Beale Street, don't miss the Police Museum! And that big old Woolworth-style (drug?) store there. (I can't believe I don't remember the name.) I didn't have much luck at thrift stores but I had a good time at a record store called River Records. And the last time I recommended the Shangri La Record Store to someone on this list, he had a good time, so I might as well recommend it again. All other names have escaped me. I kind of liked that "famous" restaurant with the commemorative Elvis booth but mostly because it was near where they filmed that Jarmusch movie. But I loved the whole atmosphere of the city. And have a drink if you can in the lobby of the (damn!) ??? hotel. The big old one near Beale Street? Anyone? Brian? Faulkner said that the Mississippi began in the lobby of the ??? hotel so ask him. I had a drink there with that large strange actor who taught Patrick Swayze how to jump through subway cars in Ghost. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Memphis Date: 02 Feb 2000 10:49:06 -0800 Jeff Phillips wrote: > Jenna K wrote: > > Hmmm...how far is that from Memphis? I'll be there in March. Which brings > > me to a question - anyone know of good stuff (hotels, resturants, thrift > > shops, general postwar weirdness) in Memphis? There is a favorable review of the bar at the Peabody Hotel on the Ultimate Mai Tai site: http://www.kevdo.com/maitai/reviews/lobbybar.html -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica)The Conet Project Date: 02 Feb 2000 11:13:16 -0800 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Peter Gingerich > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 10:08 AM > Have you heard any of, or do you know anyone who owns "The Conet Project"? There are some sound files available here: http://www.ibmpcug.co.uk/~irdial/coneline.htm. I've heard some of it, but it's a little overwhelming. Much better, however, than the somewhat similar, and literally otherworldly, "Ghost Orchid" project (the one that deals with the disembodied EVP voices). From what I understand, the CD set is already way sold out. No more copies at the usual suspects, i.e. Forced Exposure or Anomalous. Aquarius Records sold their 100th copy a while back; I don't think they have anymore, but I may be wrong. However, the last time I looked, the Museum of Jurassic Technology down in Culver City, CA had one copy (sitting on the shelf next to Stephen McGreevy's electromagnetic recordings). Later, Ben http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/ ICQ# 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Quest. about a CD burner and Turntable..... Date: 02 Feb 2000 15:10:19 -0500 Anyone familiar with the Tascam CDRW-700 CD recorder?? It's on sale for $549.00 Is this a good 'un? Also on sale is a gemini turntable for $170 - "direct drive" - does this = mean it doesn't rely on a belt to turn the platter?? Thanks! - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Quest. about a CD burner and Turntable..... Date: 02 Feb 2000 12:32:02 -0800 >Anyone familiar with the Tascam CDRW-700 CD recorder?? > >It's on sale for $549.00 > >Is this a good 'un? I'm not familiar with that brand, but that price is definitely steep. I got my LaCie CDRW drive for $369.00. I would shop around a bit more, especially try the mail order houses. Ones for the computer shouldn't be any more than what I paid, generally. The home stand alone units that connect to your stereo tend to run much higher, but even those I've seen advertised on the web for $300-500.00 in various outlets. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Kahuna Ballot Date: 02 Feb 2000 11:47:01 -0800 (PST) Like I said before, Grammy time is on us, and while all the excellent music we listen to is bound to be snubbed at the Grammys, we still have the opportunity to pass an award on to hard-working artists and companies who insist on supplying us with cool issues and reissues for our listening pleasure. That being said, the nominations are now in and the top nominees have been arranged and are presented in a Kahuna ballot below. Please vote for one (and no more than one) selection per category. Make sure to send the poll to ME, and not back to the list. I'll tally the numbers and let you all know the results. BTW, if someone wants to design an award of some sort, we could email it to appropriate people and they could display it as a badge of pride. Any takers?? Peter PS: If you want the whole list of nominees, email me privately and I'll mail a copy. Let me know if you want text, Excel 95 or Excel 97. ==== Kahuna Ballot for 1999 ==== -- Best Act of 1999 -- [ ] Astroslut [ ] Combustible Edison [ ] Esquivel [ ] Jean Jacques Perrey [ ] The Metropole Orchestra, featuring the Beau Hunks Saxtette -- Best New Album of 1999 -- [ ] Raymond Scott - Soothing Sounds for Babies [ ] Seks Bomba - Operation BOMBA [ ] Esquivel - See It In Sound [ ] The Metropole Orchestra, featuring the Beau Hunks Saxtette - The Raymond Scott Chesterfield Arrangements [ ] Astroslut - Love at Zero G -- Best Re-Release of 1999 -- [ ] Les Maledictus Sound - Les Maledictus Sound [ ] Mandingo - The Primeval Rhythm Of Life/Sacrifice [ ] Shaggs - Philosophy of the World [ ] Anada Shankar - Anada Shankar [ ] Hugo Montengro - Moog Power [ ] Mandingo - Mandingo III: Story of Survival/Savage Rite -- Best Retrospective of 1999 -- [ ] Dusty Springfield - Dusty in London [ ] Preston Epps - Bongo Rock: The Very Best of Preston Epps [ ] Os Mutantes - World Psychedelic Classics One: The Best Of [ ] Ennio Morricone - Canto Morricone Volume 3: The Seventies [ ] Mongo Santamaria - Skin On Skin: The Mongo Santamaria Anthology [ ] Esther Nelson, Bruce Haack & Dimension 5 - Listen Compute Rock Home -- Best Various Artist Compilation of 1999 -- [ ] Sunshine Pop 99 [ ] Beat at Cinecitta Vol 3 [ ] La Guepe Volume 3 (Bananaticoco. European Airlines to Rio) [ ] Doob-Doob O Rama 1970 [ ] Best of Moog: Electronic Pop Hits from the 60's & 70's -- Best Box Set of 1999 -- [ ] Dr. Samuel J Hoffman and Harry Revel - Basta Theremin Box [ ] W Carlos - Switched-On Bach [ ] Burt Bacharach - The Look of Love -- Best Soundtrack of 1999 -- [ ] Roy Budd - Get Carter [ ] Bob Crewe - Barbarella [ ] Johnny Mandel - I Want to Live! [ ] Hugo Montenegro - Original Music from the Man From U.N.C.L.E. [ ] Les Baxter - Hell's Belles -- Best New Act of 1999 -- [ ] Astroslut [ ] Fishermen [ ] Butterfly Joe [ ] Yukari Fresh [ ] Seks Bomba -- Big Kahuna of 1999 -- [ ] John Barry [ ] Martin Denny [ ] Henry Mancini [ ] Les Baxter [ ] Juan Garcia Esquivel -- Golden Bamboo Platter of 1999 -- [ ] Esquivel - Latinesque [ ] Les Baxter - Le Sacre du Sauvage [ ] Yma Sumac - Voice of the Xtabay [ ] Martin Denny - Exotica [ ] Arthur Lyman - Taboo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj Batman Subject: (exotica) Public Domain stuff? Date: 02 Feb 2000 22:23:33 +0100 a while ago there was a discussion on ancient recordings that are or might be in the public domain... take a look at this. www.mp3.com/publicdomain bye, Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista "Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief" (Bono) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj Batman Subject: (exotica) Public Domain stuff? Date: 02 Feb 2000 22:55:46 +0100 a while ago there was a discussion on ancient recordings that are or might be in the public domain... take a look at this. www.mp3.com/publicdomain bye, Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista "Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief" (Bono) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Soothing Sounds Date: 02 Feb 2000 16:08:08 -0800 (PST) Someone mentioned that Soothing Sounds for Baby is a re-release. Had this thing actually seen the light of day when Scott first made it? Is it a re-release? I know there are some serious Scott-heads on this list. What say you? Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Quest. about a CD burner and Turntable..... Date: 02 Feb 2000 18:49:20 -0500 >>Anyone familiar with the Tascam CDRW-700 CD recorder?? >>It's on sale for $549.00 >>Is this a good 'un? Hiya Nathan--I don't know this model or if the price is any good but Tascam equipment is usually designed for musicians, sound studios, and others in the trade. Try a price comparison at Tascam's site, http://www.tascam.com/. A direct mailer often sells Tascam equipment at a discount...Musicians =46riend, I think it's called. Can't find the URL in my bookmarks. Reliable Music carries lots o' Tascam equipment, but I don't think they discount. http://reliablemusic.com/ Happy hunting, Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) A point of interest Date: 02 Feb 2000 19:23:03 -0800 >I love the folks at the record store Dusty Grooves America, they have great >stuff, they're courteous (which is rare for record dealers), they have >detailed descriptions of all the titles they sell, and their prices on CDs >are great. > >Now a tiny little observational caveat. > >I was just glancing at their Now Sound vinyl and I saw a used VG+ graded >copy >of Ferrante & Teicher's "Getting Together" for $14.99. > >Has this record gone into great shortage since last week when I nearly saw >copies at every thrift store I went into? Granted the record has it's >groovy >points, but who is this person that's paying $15.00 for the VG+ copy of it. >I want to met this person, because I've got a shit load of records to sell >them. > >Maybe the $14.99 price they have posted is a typo, if that's the case forget >you ever read this. An observation to yours: Prices at Dusty tend to be high for some things, yes. I *have* to shop there because for many Brazilian artist recordings, no one can usually match Dusty's selection and/or availability. And I found one item for which they are actually charging less than Amazon.com: Walter Wanderley's Rain Forest, for $9.99. Everyplace else it's $11.99. Also--one has to be REALLY careful what you buy in person either at thrift stores or at used record shops. Sometimes even when you give an LP the once over, things can escape your inspection. Someone I know paid $7.00 for an LP that he discovered (only after he got it home) that someone had left side 1 on a radiator and the first track was totally melted. I kid you not. Although he reports that the rest of the LP played just fine... Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) A point of interest Date: 02 Feb 2000 19:23:05 -0800 >In a message dated 01/31/2000 11:06:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, >bcleve@pop.tiac.net writes: >And Herb Alpert's "Whipped Cream & Other Delights" was selling for >twenty-five bucks a copy. > >And soon after, as it was written in prophecy, the End Time grew nigh and >the >4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse rode into town, peddling Mantovani for a >hundred >bucks a pop. > >May God have mercy on their souls, for they know not what they do, >-R.G.B. HA! I really roared laughing when I read this last statement of yours. Great message!!! Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Gerwitz Subject: (exotica) More for Magnus Date: 02 Feb 2000 21:04:57 -0800 Magnus Sandberg wrote: > ...please make some suggestions on three new great >reissues that i can get from an internet dealer like >dustygroove or JD or amazon. I need something different and weird and funny. Or something thats so sweet it >just hurts. Maybe a french one, and a brasilian...> After a few days scanning digests, I've compiled a few of the list's recent faves - by title, (label) artist: 1. Uneasy Tempo Vol 11: Exotica Girls Like Ear-Splitting Music - (WinoRed) - V/A incl. Yma Sumac, Florence Foster Jenkins, Mrs. Miller, Jeannete McDonald, Diamanda Galas & Minnie Riperton 2. Metal Machine Music for Mamie - (Ike Records) The Three Suns 3. OST - The Incredible Shrinking Women - (Purge) with Calista Flockhart & Lara Flynn Boyle 4. 250 Miles An Hour On The Rims- The Jerry Rooyden Funk Mixes (Roadblock Records) - James Brown 5. Lemon Incest (Taboo Records) Frank & Nancy Sinatra 6. You Make Me Feel like A Nat Woman (Sunshine or Soft? Records) v/a 72 minutes of ba ba da ba by Mel Tillis, Barbara Walters & others 7. Deneuve, Bardot, Fonda,Fondle: The Bedroom Tapes (bootleg?) Roger Vadim 8. Best of Grateful Dead Unplugged (RCA Dying Stereo) - Dr. Jack Kevorkian 9. Calvert DeForest's Erotic Experience (Martini Records) - Calvert DeForest aka Larry "Bud" Melman from Letterman gets some! 10. The Three Tenors Live at CBGBs - (Enough Already Records) with Tom Waits, Hasil Adkins, & John Lithgow 11. World Wrestling Federation Hits Vol 5 - (Smackdown Records)v/a incl The Gentle People, The Wusses, The Wimps, The Pussies, the Twits & The Eunuchs 12. Divas 2000 Groove the Best of Blowfly (Tinnitus Records) - by Divas 2000 incl La Barbra, Jennifer Love, Rupaul, Kathie Lee G. & Nathan Lane 13. The Complete works of Carol Kaye & Hal Blaine (Bear Family Records) 7,249 Cd set, over 217,000 songs in special collectors mobile home. These should keep you busy, but because of brisk sales only one of the above is still available on the net. JB Le Noir # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: (exotica) 101 Strings Date: 03 Feb 2000 00:12:27 EST I need to ask the audience on this one, using one of my lifelines. The Scamp Astro Sounds CD has a coupla bonus tracks, Whiplash and Instant Nirvana that must come from a reocrd other than "Sounds Of Love" (adult contemporary series with Bebe Bardon on cover) and "Sounds Of Today" (Karma Sitar, pyschedelic cover). What is the title of this LP and why is it so damn hard to find? You guys know the record I'm talking about? Anybody got a copy for CD-R trade or purchase? I'll pay $$$. If you can't help me out, I'll need to use my other lifeline, "call a friend". Get Ashley on the line, please. Thanks - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr Subject: Re: (exotica)The Conet Project Date: 03 Feb 2000 00:27:10 -0500 Peter G wrote: >my friend was wondering about this. Its a collection of shortwave >transmissions used by spies and such... >[...] >http://www.foundrysite.com/i.conet.html > >Has anyone actually heard this stuff? Yes indeed. If you tune between the broadcast bands with a shortwave radio, it actually is not that uncommon to hear them. But all the ones I've experienced are the more vanilla types, where someone (or more likely, a voice synthesizer) robotically reads groups of numbers--perhaps punctuated by a dramatic flourish like saying "end" at the end. There are various fanciful unproved or semi-proved theories about their origins, but it seems indisputable that they are passing some kind of clandestine messages in code. your former shortwave geek, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mofo2148" Subject: (exotica) Benito Urghu - Sexy Fonni Date: 03 Feb 2000 03:05:27 -0800 Has anyone on this list heard of "Benito Urghu" and a song he did called "Sexy Fonni"? I'm playing it next week on my radio show, but wanted to get more info if possible... and what better place to ask than here. It's a Very Very Hip Cut. With Benito shouting and talking in Italian and a woman moaning and saying, "je t'aime...." (among other words). Italian meets French erotic lounge music with the kind of easy funky bassline you can groove to. Is Fritz Jonker on this list? If you are please contact me regarding this cut... I heard it on one of your compilation tapes. thanks all, Otis Mr. Otis F-Odder mofo2148@speakeasy.org Box 21104, Seattle, WA 98111 USA www.thebranflakes.com Let's Take a Trip................ www.coolandstrange.com www.antennaradio.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Soothing Sounds Date: 03 Feb 2000 12:48:39 +0000 Peter Risser wrote: > Someone mentioned that Soothing Sounds for Baby is a > re-release. Had this thing actually seen the light of > day when Scott first made it? Is it a re-release? I think so; however it is very problematic to feature it for your Kahuna Award in the category "Best new album"... even if it wasn't released before, it's definitely not *new*. I didn't find all my favorite things in your nominee's list... Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) Re: The Conet Project! Date: 03 Feb 2000 22:56:23 +1100 >>Has anyone actually heard this stuff? >>pg Yep! My best buddy got the set, and from the five discs (read: Too Much of a Good Thing!) I compiled a fanastic 70 minutes onto one CD. It is indeed otherworldly, and one of the truly effective late late night audio discs I own. It's totally mystifying and makes you realize that the world is very big and very deep go its secrets. Again, I'd only recommend the whole set if this sounds immensely compelling to you (the packaging is great and well annotated)...otherwise, hunt out a best friend who'll lend it to you!! Also on the same UK-based label (name escapes me) is "The Ghost Orchid: An Introduction to EVP". This CD will make your skin crawl and is by far the most creepy listen you could ask for. EVP stands for "Electronic Voice Phenomena" or put simply, voices from the dead speaking through radios. It's been called 'The Conet Project from beyond the grave!' You can read reviews of the CD here: http://parc.web.fm/december/evpreviews.htm I'd highly recommend it; but it won't get lots of playing time, unless you surreptitiously pop it into a multi-disc shuffle-play at your friend's next party. PS: If you've got the Stereolab "Transient Random Noisebursts..." record, you can hear a snippet from a voice from the Conet Project on the tune "Pause." Ciao, Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: (exotica) 'Holy shit! We are going to sue you.' Date: 03 Feb 2000 13:07:43 +0100 m p 3 FREE-FOR-ALL The tiny Napster is shaking the music industry to its foundation. Napster the software program -- a downloadable application that lets users temporarily turn their computers into servers for the purpose of swapping MP3 files -- is growing faster than anyone could have imagined. To add to the excitement, Napster the company is now embroiled in a lawsuit with the notorious Recording Industry Association of America. http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/02/03/napster/index.html PS Money, money, money: Swedish '70s superstars ABBA have turned down a $1 billion offer to reunite and go on tour. "It is a hell of a lot of money to say no to, but we decided it wasn't for us," Benny Andersson told the Swedish paper Aftonbladet. His fellow band member Bjorn Ulvaeus agreed, "We have never made a comeback. Almost everyone else has. I think there is a message in that." *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: spaceagepop@earthlink.net Subject: (exotica) A Sun story from Brad Bigelow Date: 03 Feb 2000 04:54:11 -0800 (PST) Brad Bigelow thought you might be interested in this Las Vegas Sun (http://www.lasvegassun.com/) story: http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/archives/2000/feb/02/509794326.html Message from sender: Another sad passing--Si Zentner dead at 82. Brad ------------------------- ================================================================== Famous trombonist, band leader dies in Las Vegas ASSOCIATED PRESS Trombonist Si Zentner, who started a highly successful big band years after the era had passed, died Monday at a Las Vegas hospital. He was 82. A Las Vegan the past 35 years, Zentner became well-known when he recorded the hit "Up A Lazy River" in 1961. He went on to record more than 30 albums and hundreds of songs for Liberty Records. He was frequently book at Disneyland's Carnation Plaza Gardens during a 25-year span. Born Simon Hugh Zentner June 13, 1917, the Brooklyn, N.Y. native played with the bands of Les Brown and Jimmy Dorsey before settling in Los Angeles as a session musician. In 1958 he began to rehearse his own big band, ignoring the fact that ballrooms were closing around the country and that Elvis Presley and Buddy Holly already had transformed the nation's teens into rock'n'rollers. Using a revised version of "Lazy River," Zenter recorded what he called "the first big-band record you could twist to." The song became a Top 40 hit and a Grammy Award winner. Zentner recorded hundreds of songs for Liberty, continuing his knack for recasting contemporary hits into a big-band sound aimed at older ears. During the James Bond craze he reworked the movies' themes, and when the Beatles exploded, he recorded a swinging version of "I Want to Hold Your Hand." At one point, Zentner claimed to have played 178 one-nighters without a night off. In 1965, Zentner moved to Las Vegas and his band played at the Tropicana's Blue Room. He later became conductor for the "Folies Bergere" show. He continued to perform at various Las Vegas venues and in California. Zentner had battled leukemia the past two years. He is survived by a son, Howard Zentner of Sandpoint, Idaho, and a daughter, Linda Berrow of Palmdale, Calif. 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If you no longer want to receive these messages, please contact the sender, not the Las Vegas Sun. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dan hill Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: The Conet Project! Date: 03 Feb 2000 14:33:59 +0000 >Also on the same UK-based label (name escapes me) is it's Ash International, "distributed" by Touch http://www.touch.demon.co.uk/ashrip.htm >"The Ghost Orchid: An >Introduction to EVP". This CD will make your skin crawl and is by far the >most creepy listen you could ask for. EVP stands for "Electronic Voice >Phenomena" or put simply, voices from the dead speaking through radios. >It's been called 'The Conet Project from beyond the grave!' You can read >reviews of the CD here: >http://parc.web.fm/december/evpreviews.htm and here: http://motion.state51.co.uk/reviews/413.html >I'd highly recommend it; but it won't get lots of playing time, unless you >surreptitiously pop it into a multi-disc shuffle-play at your friend's next >party. and it's great to dj with, mixed ... cheers, dan. -- ---+ dan hill [state51] ---+ new reviews on motion [3.2.2000]: < pita | ponga | the highlanders | modern music for motor vehicles | henry cowell | d'angelo > http://motion.state51.co.uk/ +--- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Clark" Subject: (exotica) Fw: Be a Little Devil This Valentine Date: 03 Feb 2000 14:27:40 -0000 for all you londoners, dougee from the gentle people is hosting a nite on feb 12th : details follow > Be a little devil this Valentine's Tasty Treat! > > It's the long awaited return of Tasty Treat, at our faboo new venue "Club 29." > > Check into this love vibration and make that Valentine's Connection while > grooving to those sexy sounds provided by your DJ host Dougee Dimensional (Gentle People) > plus special CD set by Agent Cooper, and many more surprises! > > The Date:Saturday the 12th of February 2000AD > The Time:9pm to late > The Place:Club 29, 29 Maddox Street London W1 (Oxford Circus Tube) > The Price: 3 English Pounds donation for this one off private party! > > Email:gentlep@dircon.co.uk for more info. > > PS: Look for the transparent door!!! > Ciao and hope to see ya all there! > > Dougee Dimensional > The Gentle People # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thinkmatic@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) 'Holy shit! We are going to sue you.' Date: 03 Feb 2000 10:03:45 EST In a message dated 02/03/2000 7:09:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, mojoto@plex.nl writes: << Napster the software program -- a downloadable application that lets users temporarily turn their computers into servers for the purpose of swapping MP3 files -- is growing faster than anyone could have imagined. To add to the excitement, Napster the company is now embroiled in a lawsuit with the notorious Recording Industry Association of America. >> Very interesting. Some 19 year old makes a computer program and he knows from the start that 80-90% of the people using it are using it for the distribution of copywrite infringing material and then as an afterthought he thinks that in rare instances his product can be used for the legal distribution of music. Now he's got an entire company behind him and investors a plenty trying to figure out how they can create an atmosphere of propriety for this bootlegging software and start shoveling in the profit. God Bless America where people will rally behind you for being a creative thief!!! And soon after, as it was written in prophecy, the End Time grew nigh and the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse rode into town and they told the people that every thief was Robin Hood and the people believed and the dark clouds rolled in and we all turned to cannibalism instead of visiting McDonalds. (it's not an old joke, now it's a running gag) -Roy G. Biv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) More Tekkie Talk Date: 03 Feb 2000 10:11:16 -0500 Nate wrote: > Anyone familiar with the Tascam CDRW-700 CD recorder?? > It's on sale for $549.00 Tascam makes upper end, semi-pro products. The CD players in our station are Tascams. They also make mixers, multi-track recorders etc. and (should be) a cut above the usual home market products like Pioneer, Sony etc. thus the higher price. I assume this is a stand alone unit. What I'd like to know is would a more expensive unit make a better CD copy? If all things digital are exact copies then in theory aren't they all the same? I was told by a tekkie type here that the playability of a recorderd CDR on an older player is not always related to the colour of the blank but to the burner that made it. This may expalin why some blue discs work fine for me but others don't at all. Someday I'm going to buy a burner. I was told the Yamaha is the best of the lot for computer units but I'd be curious to know how this Tascam is rated against other domestic variety stand alone units. > Also on sale is a gemini turntable for $170 - "direct drive" - does this = > mean it doesn't rely on a belt to turn the platter?? That's correct. The motor/spindle is all one piece. Gemini makes DJ stuff so I don't think this high ens audio somehow. Beware though, the advantage of the belt is no motor noise can be transferred through, and I believe most high end audio types insist on belt drive. I have this old Ariston Audio belt drive turntable and I scoured the world to find a belt a few years back. The company is from Scotland and long closed up. I lucked out in Boston with a store having one left of old stock . It's now time for a new one and I don't know where to start! If anyone has a source for a belt for an Ariston Audio - RD 11s, preferably in North America, I'd appreciate the info. Thanks, Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Josh Renaud" Subject: Re: (exotica) 'Holy shit! We are going to sue you.' Date: 03 Feb 2000 10:12:30 -0500 | | In a message dated 02/03/2000 7:09:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, | mojoto@plex.nl writes: | | << Napster the software program -- a downloadable application that | lets users temporarily turn their computers into servers for the | purpose of swapping MP3 files -- is growing faster than anyone | could have imagined. To add to the excitement, Napster the | company is now embroiled in a lawsuit with the notorious | Recording Industry Association of America. | >> | | Very interesting. | | Some 19 year old makes a computer program and he knows from the start that | 80-90% of the people using it are using it for the distribution of copywrite | infringing material and then as an afterthought he thinks that in rare | instances his product can be used for the legal distribution of music. Now | he's got an entire company behind him and investors a plenty trying to figure | out how they can create an atmosphere of propriety for this bootlegging | software and start shoveling in the profit. | | God Bless America where people will rally behind you for being a creative | thief!!! Their logic is that if a company makes something that the majority of users use for illegal reasons, they can sue the maker of that product, instead of each individual who uses it illegally. This being the case, why don't they sue makers of CD burners? Or how about makers of tape recorders? I would say that the vast majority of people who use the "record" feature on any tape deck use it to make copies of their music (mix tapes and such), which is the exact same crime as copying MP3 files. What they're really pissed about is that they think they've created such great security for all these things so people will never again be able to copy their media. When it turns out that its not so secure anymore, they turn into little brats and sue everyone in sight. They need to accept that they will never be able to stop piracy. They can only go after the individual pirates. JOSH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SLarry3595@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Si Zentner passes Date: 03 Feb 2000 10:14:59 EST Si Zentner LAS VEGAS (AP) - Si Zentner, the Trombonist who started a highly successful big band years after the era had passed, died Monday. He was 82. Zentner became well-known when he recorded the hit ``Up A Lazy River'' in 1961. He went on to record more than 30 albums and hundreds of songs for Liberty Records. He played with the bands of Les Brown and Jimmy Dorsey before settling in Los Angeles as a session musician. Using a revised version of ``Lazy River,'' Zenter recorded what he called ``the first big-band record you could twist to.'' The song became a Top 40 hit and a Grammy Award winner. Zentner recorded hundreds of songs for Liberty, continuing his knack for recasting contemporary hits into a big-band sound aimed at older ears. During the James Bond craze he reworked the movies' themes, and when the Beatles exploded, he recorded a swinging version of ``I Want to Hold Your Hand.'' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Gingerich Subject: (exotica) Conet Project Hoax?//Ghost Orchid Date: 03 Feb 2000 10:29:04 -0500 GHOST ORCHID An Introduction to EVP (Ash International R.I.P.) 14.98 Essentially, The Conet Project From Beyond The Grave!! Huh? Peter Becker, who used to work for Asphodel (R.I.P.), has presented an interesting theory that The Conet Project (the awesome 4 cd documentation of shortwave radio "numbers stations") was nothing more than an elaborate hoax. While we think that he's mistaken and that plenty of evidence points to the validity of The Conet Project, here is a far more questionable recording, because you've got to believe in ghosts rather than a more corporeal conspiracy... The Ghost Orchid documents instances of something called "Electronic Voice Phenomenon", the paranormal appearance of strange voices (which at times sing and speak in multiple languages) on magnetic tape when there shouldn't be any voices there at all... Respected parapsychologists have postulated that these voices are those of dead people (i.e. ghosts) or possibly of extraterrestrial origin! Unlike The Conet Project, which cross referenced the audio tracks with written information, The Ghost Orchid presents these recordings with the audio commentary of one of several researchers (Nadia Fowler, Raymond Cass, and Lief Elggren - the Swedish performance/audio artist and a part time collaborator with the Hafler Trio), explaining the findings. These recordings are the findings of a number of parapsychologists including Dr. Konstantine Raudive, Friedrich Jurgenson, and Raymond Cass. While there is something wholly terrifying about these recordings, there is an absurd question about these ghostly voices that we have to ask...Why are the majority of these recordings in Latvian? Our resident Latvian, Byram, is unable to answer this question...but perhaps we will hear from him in the afterlife...at any rate, The Ghost Orchid manages to be both spooky and silly, and is definitely a fascinating listen from a pure sound perspective regardless of how disturbing and/or amusing you might find the alleged sound source itself...you might laugh at the voice of "Winston Churchill", for instance, spouting nonsense from the netherworld, but it's still a gripping, dark sound document. A word of caution, Jim's copy of this cd disappeared from its case on the Aquarius counter-top at 6:35PM on 5/8/99 and reappeared in puddle of ectoplasmic goo at 3:20 PM on 5/9/99. Haunting. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits]Gary E. Cooper,Alex Kapral,Si Zentner,Willie B.,Lin Halliday Date: 03 Feb 2000 10:32:29 -0500 ROANOKE, Va. (AP) -- Gary E. Cooper, a longtime Roanoke radio personality, died Tuesday of an apparent heart attack. He was 62. Cooper spent 38 years as host of ``Swap Shop'' on WRIS until his retirement in May. On ``Swap Shop,'' people call to buy, sell or trade their personal belongings. Callers give a brief description of what they have to offer and leave a telephone number. From 1965 to 1981, Cooper made announcements at the Lee-Hi Drive-In. He spent three years in the Army before returning to Roanoke to work at WROV and later WRIS. ---- *Alex Kapral TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) -- Alex Kapral, whose 150 patents included a quick-release glue used for diapers and name tags, died Jan. 23. He was 92. Kapral, a chemist who once wanted to be an actor, helped save the Czech Republic's sugar beet industry when it was thrown into doldrums by sugar cane. Beet growers had produced a low-priced livestock feed that proved popular among people. In 1931, Kapral found a way to make it repulsive to people while still palatable to animals. That won him a top post at Biochema Corp., a Czechoslovakian agricultural chemical company. He was the company's managing director in 1942 when he was arrested by the Nazis for aiding the Allied effort. Kapral's wife, Zdena, the daughter of a sugar beet farmer Kapral had met through his work, managed to free Kapral through underground channels about a year later. They moved to India in 1947 for a job but left for Australia when civil war broke out and later immigrated to the United States. He opened his own chemical engineering company in Chicago in 1957, pioneering an additive that kept cement from sticking to molds. After a number of other inventions, he devised a quick-curing silicone-release adhesive coating in 1969 while repairing a gumming machine at a paper mill in Menasha, Wis. He then bought the mill, renaming it Akrosil Corp. ----- *Si Zentner LAS VEGAS (AP) -- Si Zentner, the Trombonist who started a highly successful big band years after the era had passed, died Monday. He was 82. Zentner became well-known when he recorded the hit ``Up A Lazy River'' in 1961. He went on to record more than 30 albums and hundreds of songs for Liberty Records. He played with the bands of Les Brown and Jimmy Dorsey before settling in Los Angeles as a session musician. Using a revised version of ``Lazy River,'' Zenter recorded what he called ``the first big-band record you could twist to.'' The song became a Top 40 hit and a Grammy Award winner. Zentner recorded hundreds of songs for Liberty, continuing his knack for recasting contemporary hits into a big-band sound aimed at older ears. During the James Bond craze he reworked the movies' themes, and when the Beatles exploded, he recorded a swinging version of ``I Want to Hold Your Hand.'' -- From the Las Vegas Sun: Big-band leader Zentner dies at 82 Jazz trombonist made 30 albums, performed for 3 decades in LV By Ed Koch LAS VEGAS SUN In 1968 Si Zentner and his Orchestra burst into "Up a Lazy River" for the overture to the "Folies Bergere" at the Tropicana hotel. Jazz fans in the audience would smile, for they knew that the Hoagy Carmichael classic was not part of the French-themed cancan show, but rather was a No. 1 instrumental hit for famed jazz trombonist Zentner nine years earlier. "We only did it for a short time because we figured people knew who Si was and would appreciate it," said Maynard Sloate, the former Tropicana entertainment director. "Si had a recognizable sound. While Tommy Dorsey was a mellow trombonist, Si was robust. He was unique and certainly well respected." Si Zentner, who performed with the Les Brown, Jimmy Dorsey and MGM Studios orchestras and later as a bandleader and musician won two Grammy awards, died Sunday of leukemia at the University Medical Center. He was 82. There will be no services for the Las Vegas resident of 35 years. Valley Memorial Cremation is handling the arrangements. "Si had such a great command of the instrument -- he was a superb, talented man," said retired jazz saxophonist "Doc" Randal Grilott, who was performing with the Bob Crosby band when he met Zentner in 1939 and became his longtime friend. "He could play everything from jazz to symphony. Si always had a desire to take his music to higher levels." Chuck Diamond, a veteran musician and bassist for the Royal Dixie Jazz Band, said: "Si was an incredible musician whether in the studio or onstage. He was a champion guy." Zentner moved to Las Vegas in 1965, the year Sloate hired him and his then-road orchestra to back up Mel Torme at the opening of the Tropicana's Blue Room, a 500-seat lounge. Three years later Zentner was music director for the "Folies Bergere," a position he held until 1971. For the next 29 years he performed regularly in Las Vegas and worldwide. "While trombonists were not known much for their longevity in the business, Si was an exception," said longtime Sun entertainment columnist Joe Delaney. "And he was even playing well to the end of his career." Zentner last performed at a musicians convention at a Strip resort last July. Born Simon H. Zentner on June 13, 1917, in New York City, Zentner started learning the violin at age 4 but soon switched to the trombone. He began his professional career as a classical musician but in the late 1930s switched to more commercially popular music. In 1940 he joined Les Brown's band and a few years later became a member of the Jimmy Dorsey band. From 1949 to 1955 Zentner was a member of the MGM band. His trombone can be heard in the classic motion pictures "A Star is Born" and "Singing in the Rain." In 1957 Zentner started his band, which won 13 straight Downbeat Jazz polls. Zentner also was named 11 times to the annual Playboy Jazz Readers' Poll all-star band. In 1959 Zentner got a contract with Liberty Records and that year released five albums -- "Thinking Man's Band," "Big Band Plays Big Hits," "Desafinado," "The Stripper and Other Big Band Hits" and "Up a Lazy River," which produced the hit. single. During his career Zentner made 30 albums, including "Si Zentner & His Orchestra, Alive in Las Vegas" in 1992. From the 1970s through the '90s Zentner and his band performed at major resorts, on cruise ships and at colleges, including UNLV and the Community College of Southern Nevada. He was a member of the Masons and numerous music unions throughout the United States. He was a past vice president of the Musicians Local 369 in Las Vegas. He was working on his memoirs at the time of his death, friends said. Zentner is survived by a son, Howard Zentner of Sandpoint, Idaho; a daughter, Linda Berrow of Palmdale, Calif.; and five grandchildren. http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/zentner.htm http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=9:55:23|AM&p=amg&sql=B25413 http://317x.simplenet.com/albums/z/sizentner/card.html http://www.bigbandrecordlibrary.com/szentner.html http://boneswest.org/photos.htm http://www.boneswest.org/vegas.htm http://www.afm.org/369/ http://nfo.net/.WWW/z1.html http://www.cruisefan.com/themes.html http://bsnpubs.com/libertyb.html http://www.americanmusicclassics.com/music_z.htm http://looksmart.infoplease.com/ipa/A0150541.html http://www.personal.riverusers.com/~debed/guitmag.htm Look for these videos: Meet the bandleaders. [videorecording]. v.102, Harry James, Ray McKinley, Si Zentner. Indianapolis, IN: Kartes Video Communications, c1984. (52 min.) THE BIG BANDS: HARRY JAMES, RAY MC KINLEY, SI ZENTNER, RALPH MARTERIE, M 1365 .H3, 1965 54 min. ---- *Willie B. ATLANTA (AP) -- Willie B., the Zoo Atlanta gorilla who spent 27 years in isolation with only a caretaker and a television for company before being introduced to other gorillas and finally becoming a father, died Wednesday. He was 41. Willie had been sick since early January, when he caught the flu and then contracted pneumonia, which caused stress on his heart. The silverback gorilla, named for former Atlanta Mayor William B. Hartsfield, was captured in Africa and spent more than two decades in a concrete-and-steel-bars cage at the former Atlanta-Fulton County Zoo. Besides a caretaker, his only companion was a TV set on a shelf in the corner of the cage. He played on a tire swing. Willie was one of the first gorillas released into the new habitat in early 1988. --- http://nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/obit-g-kane.html Gil Kane's NYTimes obit --- Chicago Tenor Saxophonist Lin Halliday Dies At 63 Tenor saxophonist Lin Halliday, who started his professional career in the late 1950s but wouldn't achieve wider notoriety until later in life, died Tuesday (Jan. 25) in Chicago of natural causes. He was 63. Continued at:http://elvispelvis.com/linhalliday.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thinkmatic@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) 'Holy shit! We are going to sue you.' Date: 03 Feb 2000 10:41:07 EST In a message dated 02/03/2000 10:14:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, josh@jabscoinc.com writes: << This being the case, why don't they sue makers of CD burners? Or how about makers of tape recorders? I would say that the vast majority of people who use the "record" feature on any tape deck use it to make copies of their music (mix tapes and such), which is the exact same crime as copying MP3 files. >> I don't think it's as much about the copying, as it is about the free and instantaneous dissemination of the music. To use a CD burner, tape recorder, VCR, mini disc player you need to buy blanks and you need to physically pass the copy on to another person. It's a time consuming and costly way to spread music. So I don't think it poses so much of a worry. Software like Napster allow a shitload of people access to the music fast and at little to no cost in time or recording media. That's what scares the record company folks, understandably. And with the growth of high bandwidth cable modems people can send better then CD quality mp3s along with all the linernotes and graphics from the CD, in a couple of minutes. Like I've said before, I'm glad the folks on this list are into piracy the old fashion way. Not on a global level, but on a case by case basis.:-)(-: -R.G. Biv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mailshot@gentleworld.com Subject: (exotica) Be a Little Devil This Valentine Date: 03 Feb 2000 14:16:48 +0000 Be a little devil this Valentine's Tasty Treat! It's the long awaited return of Tasty Treat, at our faboo new venue "Club 29." Check into this love vibration and make that Valentine's Connection while grooving to those sexy sounds provided by your DJ host Dougee Dimensional (Gentle People) plus special CD set by Agent Cooper, and many more surprises! The Date:Saturday the 12th of February 2000AD The Time:9pm to late The Place:Club 29, 29 Maddox Street London W1 (Oxford Circus Tube) The Price: 3 English Pounds donation for this one off private party! Email:gentlep@dircon.co.uk for more info. PS: Look for the transparent door!!! Ciao and hope to see ya all there! Dougee Dimensional The Gentle People ******** to unsubscribe from the Gentle People mailing list, simply send an email to mailshot@gentleworld.com with "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the subject line # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) 'Holy shit! We are going to sue you.' Date: 03 Feb 2000 08:41:55 -0800 >Their logic is that if a company makes something that the majority of users >use for illegal reasons, they can sue the maker of that product, instead of >each individual who uses it illegally. This being the case, why don't they >sue makers of CD burners? Or how about makers of tape recorders? I would say >that the vast majority of people who use the "record" feature on any tape >deck use it to make copies of their music (mix tapes and such), which is the >exact same crime as copying MP3 files. Not only that, but swapping an MP3 file with someone privately via email isn't illegal in and of itself; it's the same thing as trading a tape or CD-R with someone. If there is no money involved in the trade, copyright issues aren't involved. It's only in the public broadcast of said file (as in downloading or streaming from a server that has connected links to a public accessible website or in charging money for copies that's a direct violation, AFAIA). >What they're really pissed about is that they think they've created such >great security for all these things so people will never again be able to >copy their media. When it turns out that its not so secure anymore, they >turn into little brats and sue everyone in sight. They need to accept that >they will never be able to stop piracy. They can only go after the >individual pirates. When I was in contact with someone who is a computer programming and technology engineer by trade, he used to tell me stories of how it doesn't matter what a company comes up with, there will always be codebreakers and people who can reverse engineer a product out there and that it's really a tremendous waste of money, time, and effort to think you are actually going to stop these folks! Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) A point of interest-record buys Date: 03 Feb 2000 10:58:26 -0500 At 7:23 PM 2/2/0, B.J. Major wrote: >Also--one has to be REALLY careful what you buy in person either at >thrift stores or at used record shops. Sometimes even when you give an >LP the once over, things can escape your inspection. Yeah I did a really stupid thing recently. Found a great Hawaiian record at a used shop, $7. Did the usual anal retentive check of the vinyl: no scratches, gouges, mildew stains, oily fingerprints, beer splatters, warping--pretty clean. Even went through the routine with the shop owner. Brought it home very excited, spun it, and whoa! a march. Not only a march but the march Stars and Stripes Forever, a tune that's utterly obnoxious to me. Not even a performance of it on ukes could redeem it. No Caravan or Moon of Manakoora, the tracks that got me so geeked when I spotted the record in the bin. Checked the inner label: same artist, same band, same record co, different LP. The shop owner was utterly great about taking it back. Sometimes you're so busy looking for one problem that another one bites yer butt. BTW, Dan Hill, will send an update of Austin record stores shortly. Am buried right now with some short deadline projects. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) 'Holy shit! We are going to sue you.' Date: 03 Feb 2000 08:55:39 -0800 >Software like Napster allow a shitload of people access to the music fast >and >at little to no cost in time or recording media. But even if you don't own a CD burner, there is still cost in the software you must buy to rip tracks from a CD, then encode them into MP3 (at least, I had to pay for mine, they were not free). Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) More Tekkie Talk Date: 03 Feb 2000 11:11:56 -0500 At 10:11 AM 2/3/0, Brian Karasick wrote: I have this old Ariston Audio belt drive turntable and I >scoured the world to find a belt a few years back. ...If anyone has a >source for a belt for an >Ariston Audio - RD 11s, preferably in North America, I'd appreciate >the info. Try http://www.needledoctor.com in Minneapolis, 800.229.0644, email info@needledoctor.com. They specialize in styluses but stock all kinds of supplies for older audio equipment. Hope this helps, Brian. You'll pay full price. And you'll probably need to talk with them to get your belt. If they don't stock it, they can probably recommend an alternative. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlt4@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) 'Holy shit! We are going to sue you.' Date: 03 Feb 2000 12:00:05 -0500 >CD-R with someone. If there is no money involved in the trade, >copyright issues aren't involved. It's only in the public broadcast Money has nothing to do with whether copyright is involved. You can violate copyright even you don't distribute it in any way (such as photocopying a book in the library or taping an album owned by a friend). It will however bear on any damages or remedies. LT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) MacDonald & Associates Date: 03 Feb 2000 12:14:22 -0500 You gotta check out the holdings of this film archive! I wish I was a member of the "professional creative community" so I actually see some of these items, instead of just drooling over the listings! http://www.macfilms.com/musictoc.htm --- Welcome to MacDonald & Associates, an historical film archive of extraordinary scope. Come and view a Century of Film, a tour of all aspects of the Twentieth Century as preserved on motion pictures. We have it all--the bizarre and mundane, the noble and infamous--politics, medicine, sports, family life, travel, newsreels, animated cartoons, musical performance, war, popular culture, television, radio, advertising, etc., etc.--indeed, the fullness of civilization in the age of the movie camera. If you seek to visualize aspects of the human experience, allow us to be of assistance. MacDonald & Associates ­ Profile MacDonald & Associates makes its film holdings available to the professional creative community. We do not sell to the general public. Instead, we serve the wide spectrum of media communicators--from TV producers and documentary makers, to advertising agencies, museum exhibitors, and feature film directors. Be it a single stock shot or a collection of subject-specific films, MacDonald & Associates' footage helps you convey your ideas. As well as our master materials on film, we maintain a Vintage Audio Archive. Spanning more than a century of recorded sound, our inventory consists of 40,000 hours of radio programs, speeches, interviews, and vintage musical performances. Our clients often find advantage in combining vintage sound recordings and historic film footage. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SLarry3595@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) A point of interest-record buys Date: 03 Feb 2000 12:14:55 EST >>Brought it home very excited, spun it, and whoa! a march.(edit) Checked the inner label: same artist, same band, same record co, different LP. The shop owner was utterly great about taking it back.<< Not long ago I was in a local used record store. Found an LP I had been searching for, but when I pulled out the album to inspect it I had a similar experience. Same artist and label, but different album. Being a nice guy I pointed this out to the owner, and suggested that he should pull it from the shelf, and hold onto it as he might come across the correct cover. He thanked me. Next time I went in the record was back on the shelf. I checked it and sure enough it still had the wrong LP inside. I guess he was hoping someone less observant than me would buy it by mistake. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SLarry3595@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) More Tekkie Talk Date: 03 Feb 2000 12:16:27 EST In a message dated 2/3/00 11:57:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, mimim@texas.net writes: << At 10:11 AM 2/3/0, Brian Karasick wrote: I have this old Ariston Audio belt drive turntable and I >scoured the world to find a belt a few years back. ...If anyone has a >source for a belt for an >Ariston Audio - RD 11s, preferably in North America, I'd appreciate >the info. >> Also try garage-a-record. They have a great supply of no longer manufactured turntable items. http://www.garage-a-records.com/ Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) 'Holy shit! We are going to sue you.' Date: 03 Feb 2000 09:21:00 -0800 >>CD-R with someone. If there is no money involved in the trade, >copyright >issues aren't involved. It's only in the public broadcast > > >Money has nothing to do with whether copyright is involved. You can >violate copyright even you don't distribute it in any way (such as >photocopying a book in the library or taping an album owned by a friend). >It will however bear on any damages or remedies. I'm not aware of any infringement in taping an album YOU own, then trading that tape with a friend who has taped an album of THEIR own. And although I understand what you are referring to with photocopying books in libraries, etc., money *is* an issue where music copying is concerned for the reason that there are license fees to be paid when it's something that's done publicly (not privately). The whole thing is a can of worms mess! And there are already more lawsuits than all of the courts can handle on this issue. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: Re: (exotica) MacDonald & Associates Date: 03 Feb 2000 12:44:16 -0500 The MacDonald and Associates archive sure is droolable -- but with so much of that stuff already in the Public Domain, and more to fall there soon, and with all the things in individual collections that could be digitized and linked together, I suspect a lot of this stuff will be available to anyone in the next few years. Will Will Straw Associate Professor and Director, Graduate Program in Communications http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) 'Holy shit! We are going to sue you.' Date: 03 Feb 2000 12:46:47 -0500 http://www.clubnet.com.hk/ipclub/links/links.shtml Here's a link site that'll keep all y'all into Intellectual Property busy for a while. From the WIPO (world Internet Property Site) site, we learn: Copyright protection generally means that certain uses of the work are lawful only if they are done with the authorization of the owner of the copyright. The most typical are the following: the right to copy or otherwise reproduce any kind of work; the right to distribute copies to the public; the right to rent copies of at least certain categories of works (such as computer programs and audiovisual works); the right to make sound recordings of the performances of literary and musical works; the right to perform in public, particularly musical, dramatic or audiovisual works; the right to communicate to the public by cable or otherwise the performances of such works and, particularly, to broadcast, by radio, television or other wireless means, any kind of work; the right to translate literary works; the right to rent, particularly, audiovisual works, works embodied in phonograms and computer programs; the right to adapt any kind of work and particularly the right to make audiovisual works thereof. Under some national laws, some of these rights-which together are referred to as "economic rights"-are not exclusive rights of authorization but, in certain specific cases, merely rights to remuneration; such is the case, in certain countries and under certain circumstances, for the right to make sound recordings of musical works and the right to broadcast any kinds of works. Some strictly determined uses (for example, quotations, the use of works by way of illustration for teaching, or the use of articles on political or economic matters in other newspapers) are completely free, that is, they require neither the authorization of, nor remuneration for, the owner of the copyright. In addition to economic rights, authors (whether or not they own the economic rights) enjoy "moral rights" on the basis of which authors have the right to claim their authorship and require that their names be indicated on the copies of the work and in connection with other uses thereof, and they have the right to oppose the mutilation or deformation of their works. The owner of copyright may generally transfer his right or may license certain uses of his work. Moral rights are, however, generally inalienable although their exercise may be waived by the author. ----------- BTW, what ever happened to Gray Area Magazine? -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) 101 Strings Date: 03 Feb 2000 12:52:14 -0500 At 12:12 AM 2/3/00 EST, BasicHip@aol.com wrote: > >I need to ask the audience on this one, using one of my lifelines. > >The Scamp Astro Sounds CD has a coupla bonus tracks, Whiplash and Instant >Nirvana that must come from a reocrd other than "Sounds Of Love" (adult >contemporary series with Bebe Bardon on cover) and "Sounds Of Today" (Karma >Sitar, pyschedelic cover). > >What is the title of this LP and why is it so damn hard to find? I'm not sure what you're asking. I thought the liner notes for the Astro Sounds reissue CD said that the bonus tracks were just tracks they recorded at the time and couldn't fit on the original LP. I don't think the bonus tracks, which I think are much better than the original tracks, are on any LP. As you know, there are strange and even moogy tracks hiding on a bunch of their LP's. I discovered one the other day on a record of theirs I'd had for years. "Flameout" on Golden Oldies Volume 3. What makes you think the bonus tracks come from an original LP somewhere? Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlt4@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Re: Re: (exotica) 'Holy shit! We are going to sue you.' Date: 03 Feb 2000 13:10:31 -0500 >I'm not aware of any infringement in taping an album YOU own, then >trading that tape with a friend who has taped an album of THEIR own. I've never heard of this being tested in court but it seems likely that this would be held as an infringement. Before the Home Recordings Act this would have been a clear infringement but since that act allows for consumers to make a copy for personal use then you might argue that this swap with a friend is the same as a transfer of the original albums which is of course completely non-infringing (it's the copying that causes the problems). I don't see how that argument could hold up since it clearly goes against the intent of the Act but you never know. LT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlt4@mindspring.com Subject: (exotica) More copyright Date: 03 Feb 2000 13:13:30 -0500 >In addition to economic rights, authors (whether or not they own the >economic rights) enjoy "moral rights" on the basis of which authors >have the right to claim their authorship There are no moral rights in US copyright (this was from a Hong Kong website). LT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) vinyl cleaning advice wanted Date: 03 Feb 2000 13:58:26 +0100 i have this LP that has odd stains that could well be the source of quite some background noise, but i can't get them off. i've tried: plain distilled water distilled water + mild dishwasher soap Nitty Gritty Pure 2 DiscWasher D4 Disco Antistat (probably the same mixture as the 2 previous ones) isopropyl alcohol any suggestions for other safe cleaning products i could use? thanx! Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: (exotica) Here's a photo of... Date: 03 Feb 2000 13:20:02 -0500 the inner exoticat. http://www.johnlangford.com/gallery/personal_projects/personalindex.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) More Tekkie Talk Date: 03 Feb 2000 14:06:53 -0500 >Tascam makes upper end, semi-pro products. The CD players in >... >this is a stand alone unit. What I'd like to know is would a more >expensive unit make a better CD copy? If all things digital are >exact copies then in theory aren't they all the same? *Generally* speaking, in this digital era, pro-grade equipment is not saddled with copy-protection schemes. Or it lets you control the copy protection "flags" (off, 1 copy allowed, no copies allowed, etc). Pro gear *should* also have better Analog/Digital/Analog conversion sections, which would indeed make for better sound. And the tradition of beefier construction for pro gear should also hold true. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: Re: (exotica) vinyl cleaning advice wanted Date: 03 Feb 2000 14:07:02 -0500 Hi, the disc doctor's cleaner is most highly recommended! http://www.discdoc.com/ citizen kafka Johan Dada Vis wrote: i have this LP that has odd stains that could well be the source of quite some background noise, but i can't get them off. i've tried: plain distilled water distilled water + mild dishwasher soap Nitty Gritty Pure 2 DiscWasher D4 Disco Antistat (probably the same mixture as the 2 previous ones) isopropyl alcohol any suggestions for other safe cleaning products i could use? thanx! Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Erik Hoel Subject: (exotica) Album scanners Date: 03 Feb 2000 11:16:01 -0800 Does anyone have any successful experience with using scanners on album covers? I had initially purchased a pretty cool Canon USB-based 11 x 8 1/2 scanner (an FB 620U), but pasting two (or four) images together in Photoshop was a major pain (r.e., light intensities). For general purpose scanning, it was a dream however. I've found a couple 12 x 17 scanners for ~$200 at CNET, but due to the paucity of reviews, I am hesitant to go after either of the two in this price range. Once you stray above the two that go for ~$200, you jump to the $1200 price range. There is nothing between $200 and $1200. Any thoughts/ideas/suggestions? Erik -- Erik Hoel mailto:ehoel@esri.com Environmental Systems Research Institute http://www.esri.com 380 New York Street 909-793-2853 (x1-1548) tel Redlands, CA 92373-8100 909-307-3067 fax # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Here's a photo of... Date: 03 Feb 2000 14:04:55 -0500 >the inner exoticat. > >http://www.johnlangford.com/gallery/personal_projects/personalindex.html Shoudda added, click on the top right thumbnail. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Copyright Myth Date: 03 Feb 2000 12:21:53 -0800 (PST) Money has nothing to do with copyright violation. It's a violation of copyright to distribute things, even if no money changes hands. For example, John Oswald created Plunderphonics where he sampled a bunch of stuff, twisted it up and created pretty much new works. Then he pressed 1000 CDs and distributed them for free. Then the Canadian Recording Artists (or whatever the Canadian equivalent of the RIAA is) sued the bejeezus out of him, destroyed the masters, all remaining copies, forced him to issue a recall and I believe even destroyed the presses that made them. No money ever changed hands. I don't know how much protection you have for home taping, but I'm pretty sure that making tapes of albums for people is illegal. Mixes, maybe not, but I wouldn't count on it. Your only saving grace right now is your relative anonymity. However, I will say that they shouldn't be suing Napster. It's really not his fault that people are using it to pirate stuff. If that's the case, they should sue the post office for all the stuff I've traded with people, as well as tape and CD manufacturers, audio equipment and so on. If a guy beats someone to death with a bat, you can't sue the bat company. Well, the truth is, you can, and it's a good thing that the Napster guy (and mp3.com too) has financial backing to stand up to the RIAAs gorillas. If it were you or I, we'd be in trouble and be forced to close our doors, no matter where the law actually lay. I only hope they don't get wind of our little tape ring thing and close us down for trading copies of forty year old albums that may never see the light of day. Peter PS: If they were smart, they'd set up a sting, download copyrighted material, get a warrant, and arrest the folks on the other end. That'd shut down Napster pretty quick AND be within the realm of the law. But right now, I think this is easier for them. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Copyright Myth Date: 03 Feb 2000 12:57:15 -0800 >Money has nothing to do with copyright violation. >It's a violation of copyright to distribute things, >even if no money changes hands. >I don't know how much protection you have for home >taping, but I'm pretty sure that making tapes of >albums for people is illegal. Mixes, maybe not, but I >wouldn't count on it. > >Your only saving grace right now is your relative >anonymity. [snip] >I only hope they don't get wind of our little tape >ring thing and close us down for trading copies of >forty year old albums that may never see the light of >day. So, by your own message, it's not ok for others (including myself) to trade tapes because we're violating copyright, but it's ok for you to do so because you're part of this "ring"? If so, I'd like to plead the same case for myself then, because there are no differences in circumstance. You can't condemn something that others do and then make a hypocritic case for yourself to be involved in the same exact thing! Many tapes and CD-Rs I trade with others are LP material that have never been released on CD format in any country. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography: http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) Fairlane 66 Date: 03 Feb 2000 18:48:16 -0500 Okay, one of you crime jazz experts... Last night there was this great show on PBS called "Culture Shock" and they were talking about attempts to "censor" jazz when it first became popular in the twenties. It was pretty interesting, seeing all the obvious parallels between that censorship movement and others that followed it. Anyway, eventually jazz becomes the music that's associated with adulthood and good taste. And their example of this is a commercial for the Ford Fairlane 66 which intercuts between the car driving along a country road and a hepped-up jazz combo playing a cookin' piece of "crime jazz". Or should I call it "car jazz"? I know this is obscure but does anyone have any idea who the group is, what the music is or is there a compilation of "car jazz" and other "advertising jazz" of the sixties? Nat (who just finished his exotica ring tape) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) vinyl cleaning advice wanted Date: 03 Feb 2000 18:59:16 -0500 At 01:58 PM 2/3/00 +0100, Johan Dada Vis wrote: > >i have this LP that has odd stains that could well be the source of quite >some background noise, but i can't get them off. i've tried: > >plain distilled water >distilled water + mild dishwasher soap What kind of dishwasher soap do you use and how do you use it? In my experience, what we call "The Palmolive Treatment" works better than any other system, including the discwasher and other vacuum systems. I've seen it absolutely rescue and resuscitate seemingly unplayable records. And my friend who has the discwasher still uses the palmolive treatment on many records before he puts the finishing touches on with the vacuum thingy. But first, I've had much more success with Palmolive, specifically "Ultra Palmolive" - and even better if you can find it "Ultra Palmolive Gentle Hands Formula" (which is clear rather than green) - than with ANY other dishwashing liquid. And then how do you apply it? If I really want to go to the wall with a record, I go around with the wet paper towel and Palmolive a number of times, then I rinse it with water and then I repeat. And I push down hard. It doesn't always work but it does more often than not. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fish Wich Subject: Re: (exotica) Copyright Myth Date: 03 Feb 2000 14:45:58 -0800 (PST) The RIAA is alleging two different violations of copyright law on My.mp3.com and Napster. With My.mp3.com, they are claiming that MP3.com is directly infringing on copyrights because they have developed a database of 45,000 sound recordings and made it available to users without permission of the copyright holders. It's important to note that the RIAA isn't challenging the CD owner's right to make a MP3 copy of their CD for their own personal use. The problem is that the owner of the CD is not the one physically making the MP3 copy and uploading it to their my.mp3.com account, it's MP3.com doing it and that's where the problem lies. As far as I can see, it's a pretty clear-cut case that will likely end in an RIAA victory. Their case against Napster is based on contributory copyright infringement rather than direct infringement. The issue here is that even though Napster has no files on its systems, it's providing the direct link between a user who wants a file and a user who has the file. They've built a forum that connects users and files that otherwise would not have been in contact and in so doing have made piracy on a massive scale incredibly simple. Even the features and operation of the software support the RIAA's argument somewhat-- hotlists that show a user's entire collection of files, the fact that the software was built specifically for MP3s and no other file types and even messages (now removed) on the Napster web site that boasted that any MP3 file one wants can be found using the service. Still, the outcome of the case is by no means certain. While Napster and especially MP3.com have significant financial resources to draw upon to fight their respective lawsuits, those resources pale in comparison to the RIAA's war chest. Since lawsuits in the US often become wars of attrition, it wouldn't be in the best business interests of Napster or MP3.com to let the suits drag out indefinitely. regards, mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thinkmatic@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Album scanners Date: 03 Feb 2000 20:26:53 EST In a message dated 02/03/2000 2:16:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, ehoel@esri.com writes: << I had initially purchased a pretty cool Canon USB-based 11 x 8 1/2 scanner (an FB 620U), but pasting two (or four) images together in Photoshop was a major pain (r.e., light intensities). For general purpose scanning, it was a dream however. I've found a couple 12 x 17 scanners for ~$200 at CNET, but due to the paucity of reviews, I am hesitant to go after either of the two in this price range. Once you stray above the two that go for ~$200, you jump to the $1200 price range. There is nothing between $200 and $1200. Any thoughts/ideas/suggestions? >> Most half way decent graphics progams come with a stitch feature that perfectly aligns, overlaps and fades the edges of two images made from large items that are too large to be scanned in a single pass. I've been using a program like this and it works fast and easy and the intensity issue doesn't seem to be a problem since it does some minor correcting for that. The software I use came with my $160.00 scanner, so Photo Shop should have a feature that kicks my software's digital ass. -R.G.B. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) 101 Strings Date: 03 Feb 2000 20:59:07 EST << I'm not sure what you're asking. I thought the liner notes for the Astro Sounds reissue CD said that the bonus tracks were just tracks they recorded at the time and couldn't fit on the original LP.>> Yes, referred to as "erotic sessions". One of those three tracks, Karma Sitar, is on "The Sounds Of Today" album. <> I'm with you, I like the bonus tracks better too. <> So far, it's all hearsay. Calling Ashley now... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: (exotica) New BMG/Spain Henry Mancini releases... Date: 03 Feb 2000 18:29:28 -0800 For those who might be interested, BMG/Spain has released an additional nine Henry Mancini CD reissues of his classic LPs. These CDs were released in mid-January and are available now. The releases include "Music From Mr. Lucky", "Mr. Lucky Goes Latin", "Dear Heart and Other Songs of Love", "Big Screen, Little Screen", "Brass, Ivory and Strings", plus four others. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lenkei Subject: (exotica) ralph sutton Date: 03 Feb 2000 21:41:18 -0500 (EST) Sorry if this appears twice, but I think my ISP is having problems... Anyone have an opinion about the Ralph Sutton album, Knocked Out Nocturnes? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Yoshinori Sunahara Date: 03 Feb 2000 22:03:23 EST For those interested in new exotica/lounge influenced music may I toot Yoshinori Sunahara's horn? I just picked up the "Pan-Am '70" LP and it is changing my mind about new music. This guy does it all: fender rhodes samples on top of beats with pauses and scratch samples, in-flight e-z listening, distorted computerized chants, all with an easy listening sensibility clearly evident. An aural delight with every cut. On Bungalow (what a mo-fo of a label!)....JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otto" Subject: (exotica) RE: Omni Hut Date: 03 Feb 2000 19:14:23 -0800 There is also Tiki Lounge 4325 E. Apache Street Tulsa, OK 7415-3203 918-834-1010 Aloha Otto otto@tikinews.com www.tikinews.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tikiman Subject: (exotica) Taboo This! Date: 03 Feb 2000 11:36:14 -0800 (PST) Jim Gerwitz wrote: > After a few days scanning digests, I've compiled a few of the list's > recent faves - by title, (label) artist: > > > 5. Lemon Incest (Taboo Records) Frank & Nancy Sinatra wa wait a minute... we're Taboo Records! we only 2 releases out now... Don Tiki and Duke Kahanamoku Presents. Please tell me more about this release... Mahalo, Fluid Floyd Taboo Records __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Blue Note TV Date: 03 Feb 2000 23:10:44 -0500 Bravo US is rerunning their 2-part documentary on Blue Note Records as a single unit this weekend. Showings Saturday afternoon, 4:00pm; Early Sunday, 4:00am; Sunday morning, 11:00am (eastern times). Has some good stories. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Leeeeee" Subject: (exotica) LIVE365.COM Date: 03 Feb 2000 21:57:00 MST sorry if this has been covered but i just wanted to rave about www.live365.com it's a web radio thing for anyone to transmit their cd collection or whatever they feel like unleashing on the public. try going to the "other" category and see what you find. it's pretty cool. anything from hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy radio to j-pop anime music to techno to exotica to zappa to weirdness to coolness to godknowswhat. i guess it's free for anyone to play "DJ" from home. once i get a computer i'll be hooking me up to this. i found a "Basic Hip" station, too (the one and only??): http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?first=26&genre=other&cur=-35 pretty cool pop sitar 60's garbage. out, kevin ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) LIVE365.COM Date: 04 Feb 2000 00:13:30 EST << i found a "Basic Hip" station, too (the one and only??): >> That's me. Still very early in the experimental stages and suffering growing pains. That's a portion of my sitar comp you are hearing, the thing is I don't think it all uploaded properly, it cuts off. Definitely lo-fidelity, mono, to keep the files size down. I'll get the hang of it, someday, I hope. Basically, you covert your source material into MP3s, then upload them to Live365's server. Fill out the little form with pertinent info and that's about it. Nuttin' to it, right? :) I love the concept and hope to make it work. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca Subject: (exotica) Breakbeat! Date: 04 Feb 2000 00:29:51 -0500 I can't say enough about the "Kinky Beats" compilation I managed to pick up based on Br Cleves recommendation. Jacknife Lee cutting up and remaking Jimmy Smith's "The Cat" is simply amazing, and another group doing the same to Max Gregor's "Big Train" is also great. Many others include some reprocessed Bond sounds. The comp is about 60% new material and the rest original 60's-70's pieces. I don't quite know why it is made up like this but it is interesting to see if you can tell which ones are new and which are old. I have my copy out on loan now so I can't provide more info immediately. I don't know though, I hear more of this Pop Nouveau which much of the list is moving toward and sure I like it, but it sounds like an extension of the late new wave period sound to me. Maybe it's because I know this sound so well, but it doesn't grab me quite so much.... Unlike the breakbeat stuff... which itself isn't radically new, sampling and remixing having been around a while. All I can say is if I start liking dance music, it must really be good! I think Nat and Allan can relate to this feeling. I played Ursula 1000 (still one of my favourites) for someone a few weeks back and he was so impressed by it he nearly left work on the spot to get a copy. I can only imagine where this can go as it catches on but really I'd encourage anyone to give this stuff a listen. Any further recommendations are always welcome! Still reeling from this new discovery... Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj Batman Subject: (exotica) Benito Urgu and other Italian crap! :) Date: 04 Feb 2000 10:07:38 +0100 Hey Larry!!! This is a job for Dj Batman... the most Ecl3ctic (and -er- trashy) dj in the World!! !!! :))) >Has anyone on this list heard of "Benito Urghu" and a song he did >called "Sexy Fonni"? I don't have it but have heard it, I know who Urgu is (euggh) and I can tell you some stuff about all this! >It's a Very Very Hip Cut. With Benito shouting and talking in Italian >and a woman moaning and saying, "je t'aime...." (among other words). >Italian meets French erotic lounge music with the kind of easy funky >bassline you can groove to. In Italy, circa 1975/1979 there were loads of clones/parodies of "Je t'aime, moi non plus" by Jane Birkin/Serge Gainsbourg. A nice article appeared on magazine "Mondo Bizzarro" (#1, annual, 1999... and only in Italian!) tries to talk about all of them and also makes a hilarious comparison between "Orgasmo music" as they define the genre and "papa' song" (i.e. "daddy" songs, with a man talking to his young son/daughter and often telling some crappy story or singing with him/her). The author of the article says that maybe the two styles are connected (maybe the guys who were f****n' in orgasm records then had all babies!!) ;D Anyway it lists some of the hits in the two genres: Sexy Fonni and Mon cheri Fonni by Benito Urgu (a regional comedian from Sardinia, lately often seen on tv and in commercials), La Prima Volta (by Andrea & Nicole... i.e. "The first time", a scandalous record about a young couple losing virginity, censored by 1970's national radio), and so on. The best "papa' song" was instead "Sei forte papa'" (sort of "daddy you're great!") by Gianni Morandi, who still is a famous pop singer and in mid 60's used to record for RCA with Morricone's orchestra and Alessandroni's "Cantori Moderni" (modern singers); Morricone & Alessandroni were often seen backing up Italian pop artists in that era. Anyway "Sei forte papa'" is different and even has sort of electronic keyboard sounds on it. I must have it on cd. Going back to orgasm tracks: both the Urgu singles are Gainsbourg rip-offs based on the contrast between the the french vocals (Urgu's "french girlfriend") and his dialectal/regional comedy stuff. So often when she says things like "je t'aime" he understands "io temo" (I fear) and he replies with something like "there's nothing to fear!"; in the sceond record (that according to the magazine article is better for all these silly jokes, the french girl writes Benito a sexy letter and when she says "Cheri fonni" he understand she's saying "sheriff" and comes out with immortal lines like "I like when youi call me SHERIFF!" ;-DDDDDDD Oh, I was almost forgetting: as Urgu is often represented as a sardinian shepherd, at the end of this record, excited by the erotic letter he will end up making love -er- a sheep. (argh) I have recently seen Urgy singles and even a LP in a flea market but had no money to burn on that day; I hope I can add it to my collection sooner or later. I also remember it was reprinted a couple of times on cd/LP compilations in the last 10 yrs or so... and of course those were collection of weird tracks, comedy/parodies etc. Benito Urgu's site (apparently from the agency who represents him) is here: http://www.applausi.com/benito_u.htm Check out the pics from yesterday (ieri) and today (oggi... including some Urgu's cuban dancers pics...) :)))) Finally, a few months ago I mentioned here Brigitte's translation "Ti amo e io di piu'" (practically literal translation with writing credit to Gainsbourg, and Daiano for Italian text). I first thought to make a mp3 out of it; I am now thinking of a legal reprint but I've encountered lots of troubles (the original disc came out with a men's magazine from 1970's, "King" and no one seems to hold the rights to this stuff; Daiano is a pseudonym but Italian author society SIAE is not helping me in contacting him or whoever represents him (even if I think I've discovered who the guy was); the b-side is an instrumental called "Incontro" (meeting) written by Lumni (another 1970's pseudoym author I think I have located). Mondo Bizzarro also mentions a weirder version, "Motel" by popular comedian Gino Bramieri (who died a few years ago). In it, Bramieri is a waiter in a motel; when he enters a dark room he hears a woman moaning... at the end of the song, he will turn on the lights and discover that there was no one else in the room, and the voice came from... an erotic 7" playing on the turntable!!! :) Ahem. I hope this was enough (eugggh). bye, Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista "Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief" (Bono) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: (exotica) Holy shit! We are going to sue you some more. Date: 04 Feb 2000 10:31:11 +0100 A little MP3 file-sharing program outlines the shape of things to come in the music industry -- and it's not what the big labels think. The music industry and its trade organizations, like the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), are circling the wagons: Copying music files can be a copyright violation, and so they are turning the MP3 movement and innovators like Napster into the Enemy. Who is the music industry going to sue? When it gets mad at companies that provide warehouse-like servers, like MP3.com, it can sue (and has) -- and if it wins, it can shut those servers down. The brilliance of Napster is that, like the Internet itself, it lacks any center: It's just you and me, acting as individuals, sending files across the Net. The RIAA could try to shut down the central Napster directory, which lets users locate other users and their files; you can bet, though, that sooner or later someone would then come up with a more legally bulletproof version of the same service. And if the RIAA goes after the entire Napster user base, the music industry will find itself in the awkward position of suing a whole lot of its best customers. Which doesn't sound like smart business. Whatever happens to Napster, what's inevitable is that the existing physical model of the music industry -- the shrinkwrapped CD in the clumsy jewel case with the stupid plastic tabs that always break off -- is going to vanish, as surely as the vinyl LP and the shellac 78s before it. And however loud the RIAA screams, the new online distribution model is never going to be as tightly controllable, or as profitable, as the old physical approach. We'll all pay for our music one way or another, but we'll probably pay less, and we'll have many more opportunities to preview it and share it and adapt it to our own ends. http://www.salon.com/tech/col/rose/2000/02/04/napster_swap/index.html PS There's an article about the Stockhausen Helicopter String Quartet at http://www.salon.com/ent/music/review/2000/02/04/stockhausen/index.html The composition, originally executed in 1995, recorded the members of the Arditti String Quartet playing inside four Royal Dutch Air Force Helicopters. The choppers, meanwhile, flew patterns charted in the composer's score. Both the helicopters and the string players were miked for sound, broadcasting in real time to a console on the ground where Stockhausen mixed them together. *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) cd trading? Date: 04 Feb 2000 13:20:41 +0000 Hi there, I have some multiple copies of Plastic releases. If someone's interested, please write me off-list and we can arrange a trade for some cd's from my wantlist or for CD-R's from your record collection. Tracklistings and details on single releases available on request. Here they go: - Burlesque - The Striptease Music In Action (on pre-Plastic, Glab recs.); - Stroboscopica - sonorizzazioni psycho beat - Italian 70's psychedelic b-movies soundtracks and sonoritations (PL003); - I Gres: Exotic Themes For Films, Radio & TV (PL004); - Spectrum - Thrilling 60's Film Noir Themes (PL006); - Phase 6 Super Stereo - Introducing The Alternative Italian B-Movies Soundtrack (PL 005); - Piombo Rovente - A Journey Into the 70's Italian Police O.S.T. (PL 012); Also have for trading: - The Masquers Club salutes Mae West - feat. Mae West and a host of celebrities (Dionysus/Bacchus Archives BA1124). Tell me. Ciao Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Fresh Sounds Date: 04 Feb 2000 08:46:09 -0600 Does anybody on the list have contact information or a web address for Fresh Sounds Records in Spain? Thankyaverymuch. Darrell Brogdon dbrogdon@ukans.edu The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "w m" Subject: (exotica) space age pop vol. 3 Date: 04 Feb 2000 07:39:58 PST hi all, i've been meaning to ask this for awhile but haven't had the chance. back in dec. when i was in victoria b.c. i picked up a used copy of some rca comp. called "space age pop vol. 3 the stereo action dimension" i'd never seen it before and nearly passed on it as the artwork was so bland(i know that's terrible but it's the truth...) what convinced me to buy it was the magic word esquivel. i'm really glad i did too as i like the disc a lot. i don't recall who else is on it(the booklet is still packed away) but does anyone have any comments on this series? this was the first time i had even seen it or heard anything about it. were they discontinued? are the rest as good? also has the ring started yet? i hadn't heard anything about it and nat's mentioning having his tape made me wonder if it has started yet or not... william in taipei. ps. what does the list think of the japanese group united future organization? their often called "acid jazz" but i have found them in the jazz section soul r& b etc...i really like them though they could be heavily sampling jazz records and i wouldn't know what is them and what is a sample. any thoughts? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Zippy Date: 04 Feb 2000 11:14:57 -0500 I think you'll want to eyeball today's Zippy strip: http://www.sfgate.com/sf/zippy/5.gif m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obit]Richard Allen ``Dick'' Dudley,Allarakha Khan,Will 'Dub' Jones Date: 04 Feb 2000 11:35:23 -0500 *Richard Allen Dudley LANCASTER, Pa. (AP) -- Richard Allen ``Dick'' Dudley, an NBC radio and television announcer who was among the first to broadcast news of the Pearl Harbor attack, has died from a brain tumor. He was 84. Dudley, whose career as ``The Voice of NBC'' spanned 60 years, died Wednesday at the Essa Flory Hospice Center. Born Casper Bernard Kuhn Jr. in Louisville, Ky., Dudley began in the entertainment business in 1925 as an 11-year-old on a kids' show on WTNT radio in Nashville, Tenn. He began doing voices and commercials on WSM radio. The summer after graduating from high school, he started a small theater company in a renovated barn, where his plays became a springboard for entertainer Dinah Shore. In 1938, he moved to New York City and held numerous jobs before becoming a pageboy at NBC. He moved up the ranks and became an NBC staff announcer in 1940. On Dec. 7, 1941, he was one of the first announcers to broadcast the report of the attack on Pearl Harbor. He was drafted in 1943 and rose to become program director of the Armed Forces Radio Network in London, where he put on shows with bands entertaining the troops. After the war, he returned to NBC in New York where he worked as an announcer and performer for 40 years until his retirement. He was one of the original emcees of ``Ripley's Believe It or Not'' and announced the Toscanini Television Concerts,'' as well as ``The Price is Right,'' ``Not for Women Only'' and ``The Today Show.'' Dudley is survived by two sons and three grandchildren. -------------- *Allarakha Khan BOMBAY, India (AP) -- Allarakha Khan, the best-known player of the tabla, or Indian drum, died early Thursday, his family said. He was 81. His family said the musician, who used only the name Allarakha, died shortly after learning of his daughter's death. Family members said he was shocked by the news and suffered a heart attack at his home. He and his daughter Razia, 51, who had suffered from a heart ailment, will be buried Friday. Allarakha made his international debut in Japan in 1964, playing with Indian sitar maestro Ravi Shankar. The duo helped popularize Indian music abroad and sold out concerts both in India and elsewhere. [I am very saddened by this news -- Ustad Allarakha Khan Qureshi was one of the most amazing musicians I've ever heard/seen. --Lou] http://www.timesofindia.com/today/04home8.htm http://www.friendsworld.com/allarakha.html http://indiatimes.com/culture/music/shikhar.html http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=11:06:51|AM&p=amg&sql=B172410 http://www-personal.umich.edu/%7Eapa/zhussain.html -------------- L.A. Times -- Thursday, February 3, 2000 Will 'Dub' Jones; Sang Bass in the Coasters Will "Dub" Jones, 71, the bass vocalist for the Coasters who delivered signature lines in rollicking rock 'n' roll hits such as "Yakety Yak," "Charlie Brown" and "Along Came Jones." The longtime Long Beach resident and native of Shreveport, La., sang the familiar deep-voiced hook line "Don't talk back" in the 1958 No. 1 hit "Yakety Yak" and the playfully forlorn line "Why's everybody always picking on me?" in the 1959 tune "Charlie Brown," which reached No. 2 on the U.S. pop charts. Jones, an Army veteran, came to prominence in another Los Angeles-based R&B vocal group, the Cadets, which began in the late 1940s as a gospel act and scored a hit with "Stranded in the Jungle" in 1956. The Coasters, who first assembled in 1955 and had already scored hits such as "Searchin' " and "Young Blood," selected Jones to replace original bass singer Bobby Nunn in their lineup in 1958. The Coasters' series of sly, upbeat Top 10 hits--all written by seminal songwriting duo Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller--ended with "Poison Ivy" in 1959, but their influence landed them in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1987, the hall's second year of inductions. Jones turned his career back to gospel in the 1970s and performed with groups such as the Mighty Travelers. On Jan. 16 in Long Beach after a prolonged battle with diabetes. ---- February 4, 2000 A. E. van Vogt, 87, Forceful Science-Fiction Voice By GERALD JONAS,NYTimes A. E. van Vogt, a writer who smuggled raw emotion into modern science fiction, died on Wednesday at a hospital in Los Angeles. He was 87 and lived in Los Angeles. Rest of obit at: http://nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/obit-a-vogt.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Music Minus One Date: 04 Feb 2000 11:39:12 -0500 Check out this short piece on the 50th birthday of Music Minus One: http://wnyc.org/newsinfo/arts/FISHKO012800.html Anyone collect MMO LPs? I've got a nice Bacharach one, myself. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maurizio Mansueti Subject: (exotica) Il Giaguaro =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=B01?= Out Now - IN ENGLISH & ITALIAN Date: 04 Feb 2000 18:03:45 +0100 Il Giaguaro N=B01 Out Now IN ENGLISH & ITALIAN "Il Giaguaro" leaps into the new Century with a glorious first issue, brilliant and full of appealing articles! "Il Giaguaro" has become bi-lingual, English and Italian, moving into an International habitat much more suitable for magazine of this nature. We are also announcing the beginning of a new series of articles dedicated to preserving and enhancing the "Cult" T.V. series of the the 60's & 70's. We will start the always witty and cunning duo of John Steed and Emma Peel in "The Avengers". There is also an exclusive interview with the ever popular Jazz musician, Amedeo Tommasi who will tell about his musical adventures with legend, Chet Baker! PLUS, Journalist Michael Pergolani=B9s 1974 London interview talkin= g with the unique artist, Francis Bacon. Movie Director Luigi Cozzi introduces a very young Dario Argento with an interview in 1970. Concrete Music: "A Trip into the Music of the Fixed Sound" , the birth of the Italian Fashion, and a bit of The Evergreen Porsche cars are just some of the fascinating articles in this issue. As a finale we conclude this issue of with a 7=B2 vinyl release of the 1966 film, "Fume di Londre" (Smoke of London). The first movie of Italian comedian Alberto Sordi and music composed by the World famous, Piero Piccioni! An exclusive listening pleasure to the readers of "Il Giaguaro" are previously unreleased versions of "Mr: Dante Fontana" and "Richmond Bridge", featuring the chrous group, " I Cantori Moderni di Alessandro Alessandroni". We are sure that readers everywhere will devour this magazine to it=B9s delicious end! And remember! This is the year of the Jaguar! Black Cat Records News The Psych Jazzy Beat of "I Marc 4" BCR 0101 DLP / CD rom out now The Marc 4 was responsible for having the greatest, most incredible Italian soundtrack style. This jazz-beat combo were known to play and record with some of the best known and most admired composers of this genre; from Ennio Morricone to Piero Umiliani. The Marc 4, for the most part, were the band who recorded 99% of Armando Travajoli's compositions. The Marc 4 recorded serveral albums as "I Marc 4" on their label "Nelson" from 1970-1976, in this unique compilation you can find their best recordings that captures their innovative sound; their diversity shines with styles ranging from Jimmy Smith to Italian Bossa-nova to experimental tunes with strange special effects. The unique sound of "I Marc 4" comes from omnipresent Hammond C3 of Antonello Vannucchi with the rhythm section of Roberto Podio on drums and Maurizio Majorana on bass, not to forget the real soul of the band, Carlo Pes on guitar. On this album you can catch the pure spirit of genius with these masterpieces from the Italian film music files. In 1971 the composer Romolo Frano was working on the soundtrack of a TV serial "Il Segno del Comando" (a real "cult" TV serial for today's B-movie lovers), he chose 5 tracks from the Marc 4 library music album on 'Nelson' records, two of the five tracks are in this compilation; Distortion Mind is a beat song with wild fuzz guitar and groovy bass and Key Board has a dreaming flute with the soft Hammond sounds of Mr. Vannucchi. These two tracks are not to be missed on this compilation, as is the case for the rest of the album. ITALIAN LOUNGE-BEAT PARTY BCR 0100 DLP / CD rom out now ITALIAN LOUNGE-BEAT PARTY is a compilation of Italian soundtracks from the mid 60's to the early 70's. In those years the Italian film music produced the best sound ever and had superior quality productions. Thanks to composers like Armando Trovajoli, Piero Piccioni, Alessandro Alessandroni, all selected in this compilation, the Italian film music found itself in living a second youth, in the scene of Lounge and Easy Listening music. More and more DJ's and bands are inspired by this rich discography to make their sound more creative and different from the rest. In this compilation ensemble by the 'never stopping' Claudio Fuiano (compiler and executive producer of a dozen lounge-beat compilations around the globe) and Al Casey (DJ and editor of the magazine "Il Giaguaro"), nobody will be disappointed. Previously unreleased tracks like Humanity and Il Giovane Normale by Armando Trovajoli, the first one is a real shaker and the second is a pop-beat track with singing in English. These tracks will take you straight to the 'Red Carpet' nightclub beneath the ruins of the magic city called ROMA. It's an album to listen, to dance and to dream to. Coming Soon "Fumo di Londra" OST music by Piero Piccioni CD and DLP "Sonorissima Vol.1 The Italian Library Music Party" Il Giaguaro & Black Cat Rec. Alessandro Casella Via Castruccio Castracane 3 00176 Roma, Italy Tel 0039-06-27800193 Fax 0039-06-272167 e-mail casey@mclink.it ____________________________ E-mail: m.mansueti@flashnet.it The Transistors Space Station (best viewed with Explorer 4) http://members.xoom.com/Lounge_Italy/the_transistors.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Taboo This! Date: 04 Feb 2000 12:57:16 -0500 >wa wait a minute... we're Taboo Records! we only 2 >releases out now... Don >Tiki and Duke Kahanamoku Presents. Please tell me more >about this release... And even though I am not affiliated with Taboo Records, imagine my surprise at the Sundance Film Festival (more on that soon) when one of the festival trailers featured "Close Your Eyes" by Don Tiki! Brian Phillips (whose Mom's maiden name is Floyd, Monsieur Fluid) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Variety interactive summit Date: 04 Feb 2000 14:00:59 -0500 http://www.variety.com/article.asp?articleID=1117776138 Zelnick: Digital good music biz BMG topper predicts an end to CDs By MARC GRASER, February 4, 2000 SAN DIEGO — While Hollywood worries that the Internet may shrink its coffers, Bertelsmann Music Group prexy and CEO Strauss Zelnick told a high-tech summit Thursday that the digital downloading of music and films will only expand the markets for entertainment content. Go to URL for full story. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Variety interactive summit Date: 04 Feb 2000 14:00:59 -0500 http://www.variety.com/article.asp?articleID=1117776138 Zelnick: Digital good music biz BMG topper predicts an end to CDs By MARC GRASER, February 4, 2000 SAN DIEGO — While Hollywood worries that the Internet may shrink its coffers, Bertelsmann Music Group prexy and CEO Strauss Zelnick told a high-tech summit Thursday that the digital downloading of music and films will only expand the markets for entertainment content. Go to URL for full story. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj Batman Subject: Re: (exotica) More copyright Date: 04 Feb 2000 20:00:21 +0100 >There are no moral rights in US copyright (this was from a Hong Kong website). I have heard that generally in the Common Law system (UK/US and all anglo-saxon inspired law systems) there is "no" moral right. Hmmm. Yet in the past few years I've seen a lot of examples of artists/composers sotpping a certain release because they didn't like a particular cover version, too different from the original (even if *legal*). That is purely moral right because the economic rights would have been regularly paid through labels and royalty collection agencies. I remember those stupid Oasis blocking the release a of a reggae cover of one of their songs (but luckily they never stopped Mike Flowers Pops'"Wonderwall") and I have a 1990 vinyl 12" from New Beat Less which was an Italian trio of producers making a medley of Beatles hits in dance/house style with loads of samples from other artists (Tom Jones, Technotronic etc.). Particularly, this version was stopped by the Beatles plus Yoko Ono and publisher Northern Songs i.e. Michael Jackson (hmmm maybe I already mentioned all this in here... sorry if I did!). This version was even supported by EMI UK (mentioned in the credits on the 12"); so obviously there's no problem with economic rights. bye, Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista "Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief" (Bono) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) re: Copyright Myth Date: 04 Feb 2000 11:45:25 -0800 (PST) I said: >Money has nothing to do with copyright violation. >It's a violation of copyright to distribute things, >even if no money changes hands. >I don't know how much protection you have for home >taping, but I'm pretty sure that making tapes of >albums for people is illegal. Mixes, maybe not, but I >wouldn't count on it. > >Your only saving grace right now is your relative >anonymity. [snip] >I only hope they don't get wind of our little tape >ring thing and close us down for trading copies of >forty year old albums that may never see the light of >day. Then BJ said: So, by your own message, it's not ok for others (including myself) to trade tapes because we're violating copyright, but it's ok for you to do so because you're part of this "ring"? If so, I'd like to plead the same case for myself then, because there are no differences in circumstance. You can't condemn something that others do and then make a hypocritic case for yourself to be involved in the same exact thing! Many tapes and CD-Rs I trade with others are LP material that have never been released on CD format in any country. Now I say: Nuh-uh. That's not it at all. I never said it was okay for me. It's not "ok" in terms of the law for anybody. It's a flagrant violation of copyright. I only said, I hope I don't get caught. I choose to violate this law because I don't really believe in it and I don't think people are being hurt by my violation. While that's not exactly the best way to run a democracy, I also know that I have little chance and little motivation to change the law, as I am a single man and they are big corporations, plus my risk is small and the reward is great. Feel free to disrespect my morality on the issue, but that's where I'm at. Yes, I personally think it's okay for everyone to trade music. I think it's important in the spread of music in general, and natural for a human being to want to share they joy they feel. It is however against the law, and I do hope I don't get caught. I also hope the proverbial "they" don't close down our proposed ring. So, to reiterate, I'm not condemning anybody, but I do think it's important to understand the law as best as possible before you decide to break it. All I'm saying is, if you think you are protected under law for trading tapes with someone, you're not. Or at least, I wouldn't be too sure. As far as taping old records or stuff that hasn't been released on CD, well, as far as I know there's no loophole regarding format. Whether it's been released on CD or not, SOMEONE holds the copyright to all that Brazilian music you love and they have the option to decide not to release it. That doesn't give you the right to distribute it in your own format, ie, by taping. Again, I think it SHOULD somehow, so don't think I'm condemning you. But I do think people should know what the rules are. Especially when they don't seem to see how some simple thing they take for granted is actually breaking the law. Did you know leaving your keys in your car on a Cincinnati street in order to warm it up is against the law, even in front of your own house? Stupid law? Yes. But that doesn't mean anything when you get a ticket. It's still the law. It's just good to be aware. That's all. Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! Date: 04 Feb 2000 14:55:19 EST In a message dated 2/4/0 12:38:36 AM, brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca wrote: >I played Ursula 1000 (still one of my favourites) where can I get this?? >Still reeling from this new discovery... After giving Br Cleve a lot of lip over new material he's been discovering and what it doesn't have for elements, I am slowly discovering some new material that does have good elements included with the modern sounds. I mentioned Yoshinori Sunahara and the Bungalow label in general earlier which is selectively satisfying for me. Any other labels or artists that yank anyone's chain? JB/still amazed though by my "Music From Outer Space" by Frank Comstock score # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj Batman Subject: Re: (exotica) More copyright Date: 04 Feb 2000 20:00:21 +0100 >There are no moral rights in US copyright (this was from a Hong Kong website). I have heard that generally in the Common Law system (UK/US and all anglo-saxon inspired law systems) there is "no" moral right. Hmmm. Yet in the past few years I've seen a lot of examples of artists/composers sotpping a certain release because they didn't like a particular cover version, too different from the original (even if *legal*). That is purely moral right because the economic rights would have been regularly paid through labels and royalty collection agencies. I remember those stupid Oasis blocking the release a of a reggae cover of one of their songs (but luckily they never stopped Mike Flowers Pops'"Wonderwall") and I have a 1990 vinyl 12" from New Beat Less which was an Italian trio of producers making a medley of Beatles hits in dance/house style with loads of samples from other artists (Tom Jones, Technotronic etc.). Particularly, this version was stopped by the Beatles plus Yoko Ono and publisher Northern Songs i.e. Michael Jackson (hmmm maybe I already mentioned all this in here... sorry if I did!). This version was even supported by EMI UK (mentioned in the credits on the 12"); so obviously there's no problem with economic rights. bye, Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista "Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief" (Bono) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dan hill Subject: (exotica) new motion reviews ---+ date: 04.feb.00 Date: 04 Feb 2000 22:14:58 +0000 ---+ new reviews ---+ http://motion.state51.co.uk/reviews/ David Toop - Hot Pants Idol (Barooni) Henry Cowell - New Music: Piano Compositions by Henry Cowell (New Albion) thanks, and apologies for cross-postings the motion team ---+ motion http://motion.state51.co.uk/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) re: Copyright Myth Date: 04 Feb 2000 17:24:50 -0500 At 11:45 AM 2/4/00 -0800, Peter Risser wrote: > >Yes, I personally think it's okay for everyone to >trade music. I think it's important in the spread of >music in general, and natural for a human being to >want to share they joy they feel. It is however >against the law, and I do hope I don't get caught. I >also hope the proverbial "they" don't close down our >proposed ring. Up here where the government is in the pockets of Celine Dion and the Musicians Association (which used to be run by Bryan Adams' manager) they tried to slap a huge levee on all blank recording media. If they'd gotten their way, the price of a 90 minute tape would have gone from two bucks to seven bucks! But as it turns out, the "tax" is about twenty five cents. The purpose of the levee was to try and offset profit loss resulting from home taping. Profit from the tax will be doled out proportionately to recording artists, based on sales. If it went the opposite way, I might almost endorse the tax. But who's making a tape for their friend, going "Hey you just have to hear this Titanic song!" I've never given a moment's thought to the "illegality" of making tapes or trading music. Then again, I've never profited financially from making a tape. I think that would change things. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! Date: 04 Feb 2000 17:42:38 -0500 At 12:29 AM 2/4/00 -0500, brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca wrote: > > >I don't know though, I hear more of this Pop Nouveau which much >of the list is moving toward and sure I like it, but it sounds like an >extension of the late new wave period sound to me. Maybe it's >because I know this sound so well, but it doesn't grab me quite so >much.... Unlike the breakbeat stuff... which itself isn't radically >new, sampling and remixing having been around a while. All I can >say is if I start liking dance music, it must really be good! I think >Nat and Allan can relate to this feeling. I'm not sure I know which feeling you're referring to here. But if you're talking about being surprised you like something you thought you'd never like, yeah I can relate. But the truth is, I think I've stopped being surprised. I worked out a philosophy/rationalization/justification and now everything kinda makes sense. I'm sure I'd like the breakbeat stuff you're talking about. I liked almost everything in your end/beginning of the millenium radio shows, although you guys seem to like that Electro Lounge thing way way more than I did. I like everything that takes samples or inspiration from sixties pop, seventies jazz funk, Mancini soundtracks, lounge etc. I like all the Italian soundtracks, easy pop, all the Crippled Vampiros Dickbos kinda stuff I hear. But the problem is that it all kinda melts together for me. And sometimes it just seems a bit too DE-contextualized. I like it when I hear it. I liked knowing that it exists. I like hearing about it. But I'm almost never driven to buy it. I don't know if I love the (first?) Tipsy thing because it was the first such thing I heard or because it's better than other things or because I actually found one of the samples on an Enoch Light LP or what... but I don't know how much more of that stuff I could take. And what do you mean by pop nouveau? I've been buying sixties/seventies records from a guy who's selling his seven thousand records collection. Catching up on stuff I was vaguely aware of, used to have, always wanted etc. And I've been having a good time in the "B's" Box Tops, Big Star, Badfinger, Buckinghams And I love the Strawberry Alarm Clock record. All that weird organ and vibes. I don't know what that has to do with anything. But sometimes the old stuff sounds exactly like the new stuff but somehow it "makes more sense". Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) re: Copyright Myth Date: 04 Feb 2000 14:46:54 -0800 >Up here where the government is in the pockets of Celine Dion and the >Musicians Association (which used to be run by Bryan Adams' manager) they >tried to slap a huge levee on all blank recording media. If they'd gotten >their way, the price of a 90 minute tape would have gone from two bucks to >seven bucks! I don't know where you are, but here in the U.S., the industry was successful in raising the price of blank audio-only CD-R media (the kind you use in home stereo CD-R and CD-RW recorders (not computer recorders)). The reason why they cost anywhere from $2.00 to $7.00 more a piece over computer CD-Rs is because the music industry wanted to offset the supposed hordes of teenagers making copies of music CDs in their bedrooms. Some entity *is* collecting and getting those extra fees on the audio-only CD-Rs. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dciccone@inspex.com Subject: (exotica) Record finds Date: 04 Feb 2000 18:21:25 -0500 "Ted Heath Orchestra Plays Beatles Bach and Bacharach". I like TH's big band sound and this sounds very much like a big band. Only 2 Bach tracks. Concept similar to a rare Command LP. "Les and Larry Elgart, Elgart au Go-Go" Listened to only a few cuts. this was mention in Cool and Strange Music mag. "Persuasive Percussion vol 4". Didn't know this went up to vol 4. "Arthur Murray Modern Waltzes Les Baxter" Picked it up cause of Baxter. Have not listened to this. Anybody have a comment? Now that I have the Baxter 2 CD UL should I stop picking up stuff like this? "Sing It's Good For You, the Norman Luboff Choir". Have not listened to this. Anybody here like Norman Luboff? Anybody have a list of what they think is the "good stuff"? Henri Rene: "Riots in Rhythm" and "White Heat". I love Henri Rene and Riots is...well.. a riot. Thanks Jim. Dick Schory's New Percussion Ensemble "Music for Band Baaroom and Harp. Cover: Dick Schory buried under a pile of percussion instruments. Tried 2 track on the show. Based on the 2 tracks I heard the Skitch Henderson tracks are the ones to listen to. Jack Marshall "Soundsville! Swinging Sketches". Another mentioned in Cool and Strange Music mag. Wonderful. Domenic "Martinis with Mancini" WJUL 91.5 Friday 6-9AM http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Booth/8007/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) Record finds Date: 04 Feb 2000 16:11:00 -0800 dciccone@inspex.com wrote: > "Arthur Murray Modern Waltzes Les Baxter" Picked it up cause of Baxter. > Have not listened to this. Anybody have a comment? Now that I have the > Baxter 2 CD UL should I stop picking up stuff like this? The "Exotic Moods" set is a nice overview of Baxter's 50's "jungle" or "exotica" music, but he did a lot more than that. His other stuff may have some appeal (or, it might not). No reason not to sample some of it... -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mofo2148" Subject: (exotica) Re: Benito Urgu Date: 04 Feb 2000 16:33:36 -0800 Thanks Batman! I should have thought to ask you first. If anyone wants to hear the Benito cut I have posted it up as an mp3 file and included DJ Batman's background on the track with it here, http://www.thebranflakes.com/fp/mp3.html I'll be posting up other mp3 files also (as time and server space permits). enjoy, Otis Mr. Otis F-Odder mofo2148@speakeasy.org Box 21104, Seattle, WA 98111 USA www.thebranflakes.com Let's Take a Trip................ www.coolandstrange.com www.antennaradio.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Music Minus One Date: 04 Feb 2000 17:08:41 -0800 At 11:39 AM 04-02-00 -0500, Lou wrote: >Anyone collect MMO LPs? I've got a nice Bacharach one, myself. Cool. For me, nothing as neat. I have a few classical ones...some with the music AND the record! I have this fantasy that when I retire I will learn to play a variety of instruments and have these records to work with. Unlike a lot of other records I get, I am not yet in the real collecting mode with these. If I happen to find one for 10 to 25 cents, I get it, even without the music. I certainly am not in the list making stage of completism on these...not until I actually start taking up an instrument. Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) space age pop vol. 3 Date: 04 Feb 2000 17:14:45 -0800 At 07:39 AM 04-02-00 PST, w m wrote: >comp. called "space age pop vol. 3 the stereo action dimension" does >anyone have any comments on this series? only three CDs issued. all are must buys, in my opinion. I don't think RCA plans any more and has stopped making them. The few new ones I have seen are discounted or cutouts. You might get them through the RCA music club. Yes, unlike the Ultra Lounge series, these don't have cool illustrations or an attitude...just the facts and not all that many. However, they do have the tunes from some RCA albums which most of us wish were released in their entirety. Here cuts from the stereo action series on this one, but from other albums on the other two...the Three Suns are represented, Leo Addeo, others. Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Larson/Thomas" Subject: RE: (exotica) space age pop vol. 3 Date: 04 Feb 2000 18:47:09 -0800 >i picked up a used copy of some rca comp. called "space age pop vol. 3 the stereo action dimension" i'd never seen...were they discontinued? are the rest as good? Yes they seem to have been discontinued. To my taste volumes 2&3 are both *essential* while volume 1 lags behind slightly. Jerry Larson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj Batman Subject: (exotica) Re: Benito Urgu Date: 05 Feb 2000 10:22:50 +0100 wow! great job, Otis!!! :))))) bye, Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista "Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief" (Bono) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) obit: Joachim-Ernst Berendt Date: 05 Feb 2000 12:11:25 +0100 Joachim-Ernst Berendt, author of the best-selling book about jazz of all times, Jazz-expert and critic, died in Hamburg at the age of 77. He was hit by a car when crossing the street at the red light on his way to the vernissage of his new book "Just Walking". Berendt was co-founder of the Suedwestfunk radio and TV-station in Germany after the war and chief of the jazz-dept. until his retirement. He designed several programs about jazz and founded festivals, such as the American Folk Blues Festival and the Berlin Jazz Days. As a producer he was responsible for about 250 long-players for MPS, Atlantic and Electrola. His most popular was the series "Jazz Meets The World" that featured jam-sessions of jazz musicians with outer-european music cultures. Berendt wrote more than 20 books, his "Jazzbook" sold more than 1,5 million copies worldwide, to many the bible of jazz; Joachim-Ernst Berendt was called the Jazz-pope. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) The People With Holes In Their Heads Date: 05 Feb 2000 06:17:56 PST Heres a little article i found on trepanation, too bad I am so scared of physical pain. The People With Holes In Their Heads Amanda Feilding lives in a charming flat looking over London's river with her companion, Joey Mellen, and their infant son, Rock. She is a successful painter, and she and Joey have an art gallery in a fashionable street of the King's Road. Another of her talents is for politics. At the last two General Elections she stood for Parliament in Chelsea, more than doubling her vote on the second occasion from 49 to 139. It does not sound much, but the cause for which she stands is unfamiliar and lacks obvious appeal. Feilding and her voters demand that trepanning operations be made freely available on the National Health. Trepanation means cutting a hole in your skull. The founder of the trepanation movement is a Dutch savant, Dr Bart Hughes. In 1962 he made a discovery which his followers proclaim as the most significant in modern times. One's state and degree of consciousness, he realized, are related to the volume of blood in the brain. According to his theory of evolution, the adoption of an upright stance brought certain benefits to the human race, but it caused the flow of blood through the head to be limited by gravity, thus reducing the range of human consciousness. Certain parts of the brain ceased or reduced their functions while others, particularly those parts relating to speech and reasoning, became emphasized in compensation. One can redress the balance by a number of methods, such as standing on one's head, jumping from a hot bath into a cold one, or the use of drugs; but the wider consciousness thus obtained is only temporary. Bart Hughes shared the common goal of mystics and poets in all ages: he wanted to achieve permanently the higher level of vision, which he associated with an increased volume of blood in the capillaries of the brain. The higher state of mind he sought was that of childhood. Babies are born with skulls unsealed, and it is not until one is an adult that the bony carapace is formed which completely encloses the membranes surrounding the brain and inhibits their pulsations in repsonse to heart-beats. In consequence, the adult loses touch with the dreams, imagination and int ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) The People With Holes In Their Heads Date: 05 Feb 2000 06:17:58 PST Heres a little article i found on trepanation, too bad I am so scared of physical pain. The People With Holes In Their Heads Amanda Feilding lives in a charming flat looking over London's river with her companion, Joey Mellen, and their infant son, Rock. She is a successful painter, and she and Joey have an art gallery in a fashionable street of the King's Road. Another of her talents is for politics. At the last two General Elections she stood for Parliament in Chelsea, more than doubling her vote on the second occasion from 49 to 139. It does not sound much, but the cause for which she stands is unfamiliar and lacks obvious appeal. Feilding and her voters demand that trepanning operations be made freely available on the National Health. Trepanation means cutting a hole in your skull. The founder of the trepanation movement is a Dutch savant, Dr Bart Hughes. In 1962 he made a discovery which his followers proclaim as the most significant in modern times. One's state and degree of consciousness, he realized, are related to the volume of blood in the brain. According to his theory of evolution, the adoption of an upright stance brought certain benefits to the human race, but it caused the flow of blood through the head to be limited by gravity, thus reducing the range of human consciousness. Certain parts of the brain ceased or reduced their functions while others, particularly those parts relating to speech and reasoning, became emphasized in compensation. One can redress the balance by a number of methods, such as standing on one's head, jumping from a hot bath into a cold one, or the use of drugs; but the wider consciousness thus obtained is only temporary. Bart Hughes shared the common goal of mystics and poets in all ages: he wanted to achieve permanently the higher level of vision, which he associated with an increased volume of blood in the capillaries of the brain. The higher state of mind he sought was that of childhood. Babies are born with skulls unsealed, and it is not until one is an adult that the bony carapace is formed which completely encloses the membranes surrounding the brain and inhibits their pulsations in repsonse to heart-beats. In consequence, the adult loses touch with the dreams, imagination and intense perceptions of the child. His mental balance becomes upset by egoism and neuroses. To cure these problems, first in himself and then for the whole world, Dr Huges returned his cranium to something like the condition of infancy by cutting out a small disc of bone with an electric drill. Experiencing immediate beneficial effects from this operation, he began preaching to anyone who would listen to the doctrine of trepanation. By liberating his brain from its total imprisonment in his skull, he claimed to have restored its pulsations, increased the volume of blood in it and acquired a more complete, satisfying state of consciousness than grown-up people normally enjoy. The medical and legal authorities reacted to Huges's discovery with horror and rewarded him with a spell in a Dutch lunatic asylum. Joseph Mellen met Bart Huges in 1965 in Ibiza and quickly became his leading, or rather one and only, disciple. Years later he wrote a book called Bore Hole, the contents of which are summarized in its opening sentence: 'This is the story of how I came to drill a hole in my skull to get permanently high.' [A few paragraphs that detail Joseph Mellen's early experiments with LSD, and how he finds out about Bart Huges have been removed for brevity.] The time came when Joey felt he had preached enough and that he now had to act. He did not agree with Holingshead that the third eye was merely a figure of speech, believing in its physical attainment through self-trepanation. Support for this can be found in archaeology. Skulls of ancient people all over the world give evidence that their owners were skillfully trepanned during their lifetimes, and many of these appear to have been of noble or priestly castes. The medical practice of trepanation was continued up to the present century in treatment of madness, the hole in the skull being seen as a way of relieving pressure on the brain or letting out the devils that possessed it. By his scientific explanation of the reasons for the operation, Bart Huges had removed it from the area of superstition, and Joey Mellen proposed to be the second person to perform it on himself in the interest of enlightenment. Bart had become a close friend of Amanda Feilding, and they went off to Amsterdam together while Joey took care of Amanda's flat. This was the opportunity he had been waiting for to bore a hole in his head. The most gripping passages in Bore Hole describe his various attempts to complete the operation. They are also extremely gruesome, and those who lack medical curiosity would do well to read no further. Yet to those who might contemplate trepanation for and by themselves, Joey's experiences are a salutary warning. It should be empahasized that neither he, Bart nor Amanda has ever recommended people to follow their example by performing their own operations. For years they have been looking for doctors who would understand their theories and would agree to trepan volunteer patients as a form of therapy Strangely enough, not one member of the medical profession has been converted. In a surgical store Joey found a trepan instrument, a kind of auger or cork- screw designed to be worked by hand. It was much cheaper and, Joey felt, more sensitive than an electric drill. Its main feature was a metal spike, surrounded by a ring of saw-teeth. The spike was meant to be driven into the skull, holding the trepan steady until the revolving saw made a groove, after which it could be retracted. If all went well, the saw-band should remove a disc of bone and expose the brain. Joey's first attempt at self-trepanation was a fiasco. He had no previous medical experience, and the needles he had bought for administering a local anaesthetic to the crown of his head proved to be too thin and crumpled up or broke. Next day he obtained some stouted needles, took a tab of LSD to steady his nerves and set to in earnest. First he made an incision to the bone, and then applied the trepan to his bared skull. But the first part of the operation, driving the spike into the bone, was impossible to accomplish. Joey described it as like trying to uncork a bottle from the inside. He realized he needed help and telephoned Bart in Amsterdam, who promised he would come over and assist at the next operation. This plan was frustrated by the Home Office, which listed Dr Huges as an undesirable visitor to Britain and barred his entry. Amanda agreed to take his place. Soon after her return to London she helped Joey re-open the wound in his head and, by pressing the trepan with all her might against his skull, managed to get the spike to take hold and the saw- teeth to bite. Joey then took over at cranking the saw. Once again he had swallowed some LSD. After a long period of sawing, just as he was about to break through, he suddenly fainted. Amanda called an ambulance and he was taken to hospital, where horrified doctors told him that he was lucky to be alive and that if he had drilled a fraction of an inch further he would have killed himself. The psychiatrists took a particular interest in his case, and a group of them arranged to examine him. Before this could be done, he had to appear in court on a charge of possessing a small amount of cannabis. The magistrate demanded another psychiatrist's report and demanded him for a week in prison. There followed a period of embarrassment as the rumour went round London that Joey Mellen had trepanned himself, whereas in fact he had failed to do so. As soon as possible, therefore, he prepared for a third attempt. Proceeding as before, but now with the benefit of experience, he soon found the groove from the previous operation and began to saw through the sliver of bone separating him from enlightenment or, as the doctors had predicted, instant death. What followed is best quoted from Bore Hole. 'After some time there was an ominous sounding schlurp and the sound of bubbling. I drew the trepan out and the gurgling continued. It sounded like air bubbles running under the skull as they were pressed out. I looked at the trepan and there was a bit of bone in it. At last! On closer inspection I saw that the disc of bone was much deeper on one side than on the other. Obviously the trepan had not been straight and had gone through at one point only, then the piece of bone had snapped off and come out. I was reluctant to start drilling again for fear of damaging the brain membranes with the deeper part while I was cutting through the rest or of breaking off a splinter. If only I had an electric drill it would have been so much simpler. Amanda was sure I was through. There seemed no other explanation for the schlurping noises I decided to call it a day. At the time I thought that any hole would do, no matter what size. I bandaged up my head and cleared away the mess.' There was still doubt in his mind as to whether he had really broken through and, if so, whether the hole was big enough to restore pulsation to his brain. The operation had left him with a feeling of wellbeing, but he realized that it could simply be from relief at having ended it. To put the matter beyond doubt, he decided to bore another hole at a new spot just above the hairline, this time using an electric drill. In the spring of 1970, Amanda was in America and Joey did the operation alone. He applied the drill to his forehead, but after half and hour's work the electric cable burnt out. Once again he was frustrated. An engineer in the flat below him was able to repair the instrument and next day he set out to finish the job. 'This time I was not in any doubt. The drill head went at least an inch deep through the hole. A great gush of blood followed my withdrawal of the drill. In the mirror I could see the blood in the hole rising and falling with the pulsation of the brain.' The result was all he had hoped for. During the next four hours he felt his spirits rising higher until he reached a state of freedom and serenity which he claims, has been with him ever since. For some time now he had been sharing a flat with Amanda, and when she came back from America she immediately noticed the change in him. This encouraged her to join him on the mental plane by doing her own trepanation. The operation was carefully recorded. She had obtained a cine-camera, and Joey stood by, filming, as she attacked her head with an electric drill. The film shows her carefully at work, dressed in a blood-spattered white robe. She shaves her head, makes an incision in her head with a scalpel and calmly starts drilling. Blood spurts as she penetrates the skull. She lays aside the drill and with a triumphant smile advances towards Joey and the camera. Ever since, Joey and Amanda have lived and worked together in harmony. From the business of buying old prints to colour and resell, they have progressed to ownership of the Pigeonhole Gallery and seem reasonably prosperous. They have also started a family. There is nothing apparently abnormal about them, and many of their old friends agree in finding them even more pleasant and contented since their operations. There is plenty of leisure in their lives, mingled with the kind of activities they most enjoy. These of course include talking and writing about trepanation. They have lectured widely in Europe and America to groups of doctors and other interested people, showing the film of Amanda's self-operation, entitled Heartbeat in the Brain. It is generally received with awe, the sight of blood often causing people to faint. At one showing in London a film critic described the audience 'dropping off their seats one by one like ripe plums'. Yet it was not designed to be gruesome. The soundtrack is of soothing music, and the surgical scenes alternate with some delightful motion studies of Amanda's pet pigeon, Birdie, as a symbol of peace and wisdom." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: (exotica) Iowa Date: 05 Feb 2000 09:33:58 -0500 I'm going to Des Moines, Iowa tomorrow (no, really) for a couple of days and am wondering if there are stores, clubs, other attractions worth checking out. Anyone out there from that great state? Will # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) 101 Strings Date: 05 Feb 2000 13:44:52 EST In a message dated 2/3/00 9:03:04 PM EST, BasicHip@aol.com writes: << << I'm not sure what you're asking. I thought the liner notes for the Astro Sounds reissue CD said that the bonus tracks were just tracks they recorded at the time and couldn't fit on the original LP.>> Yes, referred to as "erotic sessions". One of those three tracks, Karma Sitar, is on "The Sounds Of Today" album. <> I'm with you, I like the bonus tracks better too. <> So far, it's all hearsay. Calling Ashley now... >> Sorry for the delay in answering. The 101 Strings recorded an album called "The 'Exotic' Sounds Of Love which feature the moanings of Bebe Bardon that's where the track "Whiplash" comes from. There is a paragraph about this in Joseph Lanza'a "Elevator Music" book. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Album Storage Date: 05 Feb 2000 13:30:00 -0800 (PST) Hey folks, Does anyone know of a place on the web that might have album storage solutions? Shelves and junk? I've had to move all my albums to the basement and am looking for some way to store 'em. Thanks, Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Leeteg Black Velvet Painting at eBay Date: 05 Feb 2000 22:40:33 +0100 The Leeteg painting on ebay sold for $1,376.26. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Yost" Subject: (exotica) Who Knew? (the Gentle People) Date: 05 Feb 2000 16:50:57 -0800 While searching for a copy of the newer Gentle People CD on eBay, I learned the following: > THE GENTLE PEOPLE - A PORTRAIT OF THE AMISH BY DONALD M. > DENLINGER (TEXT AUTHOR) and JAMES A. WARNER > (PHOTOGRAPHER). James A. Warner found the secret of "The Gentle People". > From the apparent drudgery and hard life of the Amish, he has captured the human > qualities of contentment, companionship, and happiness in his photographs. > Measures 9 x 11-1/1", 185 pages, Published in 1992. HARD COVER WITH INTACT DUST JACKET. I wonder if the band knew of this association when they chose the name? -- Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SLarry3595@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Louis Prima & Keely Smith on tv tonight Date: 05 Feb 2000 18:58:19 EST Just a reminder to any who may have missed it the new Louis Prima tv biography and the hard to catch (not on video) Louis Prima/Keely Smith/Sam Butera film "Hey Boy Hey Girl" will both be on television tonight, Saturday Feb 5th. Check your local A&E listings. Enjoy, I know I will be taping this one. Also, thanks to list member e.ace for the original heads up! Best wishes, Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Louis Prima & Keely Smith on tv tonight Date: 05 Feb 2000 20:03:50 -0500 >Just a reminder to any who may have missed it the new Louis Prima tv >biography and the hard to catch (not on video) Louis Prima/Keely Smith/Sam >Butera film "Hey Boy Hey Girl" will both be on television tonight, Saturday >Feb 5th. Check your local A&E listings. AMC actually. 9:45pm eastern zone. The pairing repeats later at 4:00am or 3:45am (slight disagreement in published schedules). m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) MP3 for Mac?? Date: 06 Feb 2000 12:52:04 +1100 Hey kidz! I'm ready to toss myself into the MP3 maelstrom to check it out...can someone in the know regarding Mac useage of software/search stuff please email me and retrieve me from the endless glut of crap I gotta sift thru to find ANYTHING??? Not much info on MP3 sites concerning Mac. Thanks! Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) Public Enemy goes Exotica! Date: 06 Feb 2000 12:59:08 +1100 Wow! I just heard Public Enemy using 101 Strings 'Flameout' from Astro Sounds as the bedrock for their new single...it's very very good. Go to: http://www.mvpsite.com/ and go to their 'music, video & links collection.' They've still got the touch. It's no 'Fear of a Black Planet', but no-one's perfect. Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) MP3 for Mac?? Date: 05 Feb 2000 18:14:01 -0800 >Hey kidz! > >I'm ready to toss myself into the MP3 maelstrom to check it out...can >someone in the know regarding Mac useage of software/search stuff please >email me and retrieve me from the endless glut of crap I gotta sift thru to >find ANYTHING??? Not much info on MP3 sites concerning Mac. > >Thanks! > >Keith To Keith and other Mac users on this list: to play existing MP3 files on a Mac you will need either the new Quicktime 4.1 app from Apple or MacCAST, which plays all other audio files in addition to MP3s (Quicktime is free but has a lousy new interface; MacCAST costs $20.00 to register for full usage, but is free to play clips of 2 minutes or less in length). To create MP3s on a Mac, you will need Toast Audio Extractor software which makes AIFF files from ripping the redbook audio tracks on your CDs. This app comes with the Toast CD Burner software one receives when purchasing a CD Burner for the Mac. You then need to drag and drop the individual AIFF files onto an application called "MP3 Encoder" which is freeware (you will have to do a search for it on the internet--which is how I found mine, I no longer have the URL from where I downloaded it). Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, February 6 Date: 05 Feb 2000 21:38:25 -0500 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #81 Pop Nouveau (thanks to Kevin for the name!) Stereo Total: Holiday Innn "Juke-Box Alarm" Etienne Charry: Jour "J" "36 Erreurs" Czerkinsky: Les Sacs En Plastique "Czerkinsky" Stereo Deluxe: Aerocyclette "Pool Position" Gentle People: La Mouche "Hommage A Polnareff" Yukari Fresh & Pat Detective: Yippee To Kate 99 "Poptics" Andreas Dorau & Moritz R: Der letzte Popsong "Poptics" D. Ryba: Ciao Darling "Kidnap International" Laurent Lombard: Pop Flower "Hi-Fi Stereo Remixes" Yoshinori Sunahara & Mars Art Lab: Preview "Poptics" Fantastic Plastic Machine: There Must Be An Angel (Playing With My Heart) "Luxury" Pat & The Maxwell Implosion: Bello Tour "Pool Position" Die Moulinettes: Alfio Brambilla (Martini Mix) "Songs For Marshmallow Lovers" Pizzicato 5: Tout Tout Pour Ma Cherie "Hommage A Polnareff" Thanks for reading. cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca Subject: (exotica) Re:Breakbeat! Date: 06 Feb 2000 00:49:32 -0500 Nat wrote: > >...if I start liking dance music, it must really be good! I think > >Nat and Allan can relate to this feeling. > I'm not sure I know which feeling you're referring to here. But if you're > talking about being surprised you like something you thought you'd never > like, yeah I can relate. But the truth is, I think I've stopped being > surprised. I worked out a philosophy/rationalization/justification and now > everything kinda makes sense. Yeah that's the feeling all right... but mainly the fact that it would be dance music of all things we're talking about! I forgot you and Allan have never met so the reference probably hasn't got the same meaning to either of you. Sorry for the confusion! > I'm sure I'd like the breakbeat stuff you're talking about. I liked almost > everything in your end/beginning of the millennium radio shows, although you > guys seem to like that Electro Lounge thing way way more than I did. I'm not such a big fan of that particular compilation and I remember making the same comment when we were putting these shows together but this show is a shared effort... Of course it's not a bad thing as this way listeners are spared Schlager than they could otherwise get if left to me alone... > I like everything that takes samples or inspiration from sixties pop, > seventies jazz funk, Mancini soundtracks, lounge etc. I like all the > Italian soundtracks, easy pop, all the Crippled Vampiros Dickbos kinda > stuff I hear. Oh sure I'm the same. And I think this may be why I like this newer stuff so much, as it borrows so heavily from these same things. Whether it's jazz-funk, easy, or now sound being featured you hear the same instruments and sounds (moog, hammmond, vibes...) but with a whole different feel that has a somehow refreshing and new appeal. I can't explain it any other way. > But the problem is that it all kinda melts together for me. > And sometimes it just seems a bit too DE-contextualized. > I like it when I hear it. I liked knowing that it exists. I like hearing > about it. But I'm almost never driven to buy it. It's hard in this day and age to maintain any sense of context with so much being, so much criss-crossing of styles, sampling, remixing, de-mixing and whatever so I've given up myself. Still, if you feel a desperate need to hear more, I'm only a email away! > I don't know if I love the (first?) Tipsy thing because it was the first > such thing I heard or because it's better than other things or because I > actually found one of the samples on an Enoch Light LP or what... but I > don't know how much more of that stuff I could take. Tipsy (like Sukia or Stock, Hausen & Walkman) is probably more experimental, borrowing clips and bits to make something almost completely new. The breakbeat stuff I refer to is a lot less experimental in that it borrows a lot more of the original but as I said, with a fresh and somehow very appealing sound, at least in the number of examples I've heard. I didn't expect to make a convert of you from a few tapes and actually aside from Mo' Horizons, Bobby Hughes, Ursula 1000 and DJ ME DY You, the tapes cover a much wider range... but after starting to feel like I was actually catching up on what was out there, this was a nice surprise. I think we share the same compulsion to keep on discovering. > And what do you mean by pop nouveau? I always though of this category being made up of groups like those you'd find on Marina or Tricatel...maybe even Stereo Total or even Portishead. All really good, but sounding more like a natural extension of the later new wave sound before it kind of fizzled out. I sense this may not be an accurate perception and base it only on those discussions on the subject from this list. Since I'm not on that particular list I probably should say no more for fear of reprisal. > And I love the Strawberry Alarm Clock record. All that weird organ and vibes. > I don't know what that has to do with anything. But sometimes the old > stuff sounds exactly like the new stuff but somehow it "makes more sense". I kind of rediscovered that one myself too. Yeah I know the context presents a problem but my view has always been that complacency is a bad thing when it comes to music. Whenever I reach a point where I'm able to (or even think I could for that matter) compile a list of all I'm missing, I can be sure it's a bad time musically. I haven't had a want list for several years now so things are still looking up! I also have this habit of taking it upon myself to try to challenge people with music they may like but may not otherwise get to hear. It doesn't always connect but when it does it's really satisfying. That experience with Ursula 1000 a few weeks back was one of those moments that make it all worthwhile. Must be a calling! Yeesh... now I know what these evangelists must feel like! Enough philosophizing for now.. I think Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:Breakbeat! Date: 06 Feb 2000 02:16:36 EST In a message dated 2/6/0 12:56:01 AM, brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca wrote: >I'm sure I'd like the breakbeat stuff you're talking about Is it possible to spell out a working definition of "breakbeat"? I'll admit it: I really don't know what it truly isssss....Thanks, JB/grooviness is unobtainable # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) MP3 for the Mac Date: 06 Feb 2000 00:16:53 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 12:52:04 +1100 >From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" >Subject: (exotica) MP3 for Mac?? > >Hey kidz! > >I'm ready to toss myself into the MP3 maelstrom to check it out...can >someone in the know regarding Mac useage of software/search stuff please >email me and retrieve me from the endless glut of crap I gotta sift thru to >find ANYTHING??? Not much info on MP3 sites concerning Mac. The absolute best player for MP3 files for the Mac is Audion. I had no end of problems with the other players before I stumbled on it. It has a very slick Mac-like interface too. Well worth the shareware fee. As for finding MP3's I've had the best luck in two newsgroups... alt.binaries.sounds.78rpm-era alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1950s Most ISP's don't carry these, or have incomplete postings due to poor propagation. I use giganews.com which gives me fast connections, long article retention and complete posts. I hear supernews is good too. It costs about five bucks or so a month. Check out their web pages for details. I set a batch of files downloading every night. So far I have gotten tons of great stuff... everything from Edison cylanders to 1950s percussion records. Well worth the time and trouble. Feel free to contact me off list if you would like more details. I'd also be interested in swapping mp3s I have collected with others on the list. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204 Glendale, CA 91205 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:Breakbeat! Date: 06 Feb 2000 11:00:19 +0100 DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > Is it possible to spell out a working definition of "breakbeat"? I'll admit > it: I really don't know what it truly isssss.... Brian: > I didn't expect to make a > convert of you from a few tapes and actually aside from Mo' > Horizons, Bobby Hughes, Ursula 1000 and DJ ME DY You, the > tapes cover a much wider range... but after starting to feel like I > was actually catching up on what was out there, this was a nice > surprise. I think we share the same compulsion to keep on > discovering. > I'm a bit surprised about this connection. I know Breakbeat from a very different context. The term came up some 4 years ago, it was the time when what was formerly just house and techno split up in dozens of different sub-definitions and virtually every week a new trend came up. Just like in Jungle there wasn't much content involved in Breakbeat that had anything to do with exotica-related music. I'm sure Jill could say more about this, if she was still in this list, I just remember highly nervous rhythms, "broken", if you want, with drum and bass-oriented sounds, not unlike the sounds of techno. But every time I asked one of the so called specialists of one of these genres to give me a plausible explanation or definition, they all more or less failed. Mo PS: Jill, can you help? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, February 6 Date: 06 Feb 2000 11:50:32 +0100 cheryl wrote: > As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. > Space Bop #81 Pop Nouveau (thanks to Kevin for the name!) > > Andreas Dorau & Moritz R: Der letzte Popsong "Poptics" Mo, what's this?? Marco -- Marco "Kallie" Kalnenek +------------------------------------------+ Record Collector's Heaven http://weirdomusic.freeservers.com/ +------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, February 6 Date: 06 Feb 2000 14:52:46 +0100 Marco \\Kallie\\ Kalnenek wrote: > cheryl wrote: > > > As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. > > Space Bop #81 Pop Nouveau (thanks to Kevin for the name!) > > > > Andreas Dorau & Moritz R: Der letzte Popsong "Poptics" > > Mo, what's this?? > It's what it says: The last pop song of the 20th century. And we wrote it. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! Date: 06 Feb 2000 15:11:05 +0100 At 11:00 06/02/00 +0100, you wrote: >DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > >> Is it possible to spell out a working definition of "breakbeat"? I'll admit >> it: I really don't know what it truly isssss.... It goes back for many years. The James Brown "Funky DRummer" drum part is the classic "break". A breakbeat is simply a style of drumming. Genre-wise, and music with breaks (hip hop, jungle are very common) can be considered "Breakbeat". Big beat music (in the Fatboy Slim mode) is also breakbeat. Lots of 60s and 70s funk use the break. Breakbeat music really implies so much. I don't use it as a genre reference, more as a style of drumming reference. Is that more clear? Jill "Mingo-go" PS: Mo, feel free to forward this to the list. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr Subject: (exotica) Re: MP3 for Mac? Date: 06 Feb 2000 09:45:21 -0500 BJ wrote: >To Keith and other Mac users on this list: to play existing MP3 files on >a Mac you will need [...] Start with these URLs, and you can see a pretty complete listing of Mac MP3 software: http://software.mp3.com/software/featured/macintosh/player/ http://software.mp3.com/software/all/macintosh/encoder/ Two of the best-regarded commercial encoders are: http://www.soundjam.com/ http://www.n2mp3.com/ (Both of them can go directly from CD to MP3 files without the intermediate step of saving giant AIFFs on your hard disk.) Is anyone aware of a freeware encoder for Mac? The MPecker betas seem to be gone now. There are plenty of freeware players which will do the job, assuming you don't already have QuickTime 4 (which directly supports MP3s). GrayAmp is a nice one if you think the idea of garish interface "skins" is dopey. . . cheers, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M H Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) The People With Holes In Their Heads Date: 06 Feb 2000 12:41:15 +0000 Magnus Sandberg wrote: > > Heres a little article i found on trepanation, too bad I am so scared of > physical pain. > > The People With Holes In Their Heads > Amanda Feilding lives in a charming flat looking over London's river with > her companion, Joey Mellen, and their infant son, Rock. She is a successful > painter, and she and Joey have an art gallery in a fashionable street of the > King's Road. (etc) This article is from 'Eccentric Lives and Peculiar Notions' by John Michell, 1984. It's all a good read. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M H Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:Breakbeat! Date: 06 Feb 2000 12:51:42 +0000 Moritz R wrote: > > DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > > > Is it possible to spell out a working definition of "breakbeat"? I'll admit > > it: I really don't know what it truly isssss.... > > I'm a bit surprised about this connection. I know Breakbeat from a very > different context. The term came up some 4 years ago, it was the time when > what was formerly just house and techno split up in dozens of different > sub-definitions and virtually every week a new trend came up. Just like in > Jungle there wasn't much content involved in Breakbeat that had anything to do > with exotica-related music. I'm sure Jill could say more about this, if she > was still in this list, I just remember highly nervous rhythms, "broken", if > you want, with drum and bass-oriented sounds, not unlike the sounds of techno. > But every time I asked one of the so called specialists of one of these genres > to give me a plausible explanation or definition, they all more or less > failed. A 'breakbeat' itself is a sampled bar (measure) from an instrumental break on a record. All the references to 'breaks' in compilation titles mean this. The term has been around almost as long as hip hop has, I believe. In practice the 'breaks' used tend to be of a funk or soul origin. 'Breakbeat' as a genre means nothing. At different times instrumental Hip hop, jungle, and some hardcore have all been referred to as 'breakbeat'. As a common definition it can be used to distinguish Hip hop, trip hop and jungle from the 4/4 beats of house and techno (i.e. a bass drum hit on all four beats in the bar), which tend to be made using individual sounds (e.g. a bass drum sample, a hi-hat sample and a snare sample) rather than a sampled and looped whole bar. There's also a genre called 'breaks' or 'nu breaks' which tends to be instrumental, noisy and not very engaging (IMO). I think this followed out of the UK big beat scene, and might have links with the 'breaks' or 'Florida breaks' genre in the US. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M H Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Yoshinori Sunahara Date: 06 Feb 2000 15:19:53 +0000 DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > > For those interested in new exotica/lounge influenced music may I toot > Yoshinori Sunahara's horn? I just picked up the "Pan-Am '70" LP and it is > changing my mind about new music. This guy does it all: fender rhodes > samples on top of beats with pauses and scratch samples, in-flight e-z > listening, distorted computerized chants, all with an easy listening > sensibility clearly evident. An aural delight with every cut. On Bungalow > (what a mo-fo of a label!)....JB He's obsessed with aeroplanes: He has another album called 'Take-offs and Landings', although this isn't as good IMO as 'Pan Am - Sounds of 70s'. I think this is also on Bungalow. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M H Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Quest. about a CD burner and Turntable..... Date: 06 Feb 2000 15:33:50 +0000 Nathan Miner wrote: > > Also on sale is a gemini turntable for $170 - "direct drive" - does this mean it doesn't rely on a belt to turn the platter?? yes - for DJ-ing direct-drive turntables are used, allowing the user to wind the record forward and back for cue-ing, scratching etc together with a slip mat. Belt drive turntables can have a superior sound, since the belt insulates the turntable from the motor's vibrations. For home listening there are some very nice belt drive turntables being made at present, a lot from Eastern Europe (don't know if these are exported to the states). Gemini are budget DJ-ing equipment. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Horne" Subject: (exotica) Anyone know where "Music Blvd" went? (OT) Date: 06 Feb 2000 12:13:40 -0500 Howdy, Sorry to bring this here, but I'm at a loss and figured someone here might be able to help me. A while back I did some email business with www.musicblvd.com and recieved no response; it was a minor matter of a free demo disk I'd won from them, but now they've merged with some other on line retailer and am wondering if I can pester their new incarnation for the never sent disk... Please email me privately about this if anyone knows... Thanks, Mike aka Lsanto@rcn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! Date: 06 Feb 2000 12:59:24 EST In a message dated 2/6/0 9:11:56 AM, exotica@munich.netsurf.de wrote: >The James Brown "Funky DRummer" drum part is >the classic "break". A breakbeat is simply a style of drumming. So breakbeat is simply when all other instrumentation stops and the drummer goes through his rolls and keeps the beat movin'? Why is that a genre? Because it gets sampled? Where am I? JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re:Breakbeat! Date: 06 Feb 2000 13:01:38 EST In a message dated 2/6/0 10:12:20 AM, michael@jemmeson.freeserve.co.uk wrote: >'Breakbeat' as a genre means nothing. Yet I've seen a "breakbeat" section in local record shops. (But I never bought one) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Yoshinori Sunahara Date: 06 Feb 2000 13:03:17 EST In a message dated 2/6/0 10:18:09 AM, michael@jemmeson.freeserve.co.uk wrote: >'Take-offs >and Landings', although this isn't as good IMO as 'Pan Am - Sounds of >70s'. I think this is also on Bungalow. Agreed, although Take-Offs certainly has its moments and is worth picking up IMO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M H Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:Breakbeat! + New compilations Date: 06 Feb 2000 18:30:41 +0000 DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 2/6/0 10:12:20 AM, michael@jemmeson.freeserve.co.uk wrote: > > >'Breakbeat' as a genre means nothing. > > Yet I've seen a "breakbeat" section in local record shops. (But I never > bought one) I didn't mean that it isn't used, my point was that it is a term which has multiple definitions, and therefore, IMO, should be avoided. At a guess the music is the breakbeat might be the 'breaks' stuff I mentioned. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) Anyone know where "Music Blvd" went? (OT) Date: 06 Feb 2000 10:41:46 -0800 Mike Horne wrote: > > Howdy, > Sorry to bring this here, but I'm at a loss and figured someone here > might be able to help me. A while back I did some email business with > www.musicblvd.com and recieved no response; it was a minor matter of a free > demo disk I'd won from them, but now they've merged with some other on line > retailer and am wondering if I can pester their new incarnation for the > never sent disk... > Please email me privately about this if anyone knows... Since this may be of interest to others... Music Blvd merged with CDnow a while back. -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M H Jemmeson Subject: (exotica) New compilations Date: 06 Feb 2000 18:45:54 +0000 2069 A Spaced Oddity has Werner Muller - Bodybuilding, Andrew Loog Oldham - The Last time (the one the Verve got caught using), Howard Blake - Elephant rides again Not great sound quality and presumably vinyl only (and white label at that) The Melting Pot vol2 Lalo Schifrin - Ape shuffle, Gustav Brom Orch - Waldmachen (one of the killer tracks on Talkin Jazz 3), Big jim H - Jungle Fever (fantastic!), Percy Faith - First light, and a few more good ones. Also finally got round to buying Blue Brazil (blue note) which is more latin and less jazz than i thought. Very different to Blue Bossa (which has 50% unmissable tracks IMO). And a reissue - Nico Gomez and his Afro Percussion, which Division One (behind Virgin on Oxford St) has at a reasonable price. *Very* nice and also very varied. Had danced to the mambo one the previous night at Wah Wah at the Camden Jazz Cafe and wondered what it was. Also a new comp of Jacky Mittoo tracks from Soul Jazz (producers of the 100% dynamite series) which is nice if you like both reggae and Hammond. The 100% dynamite comps (currently 3) are also particularly good, of interest to list members might be the Mission Impossible theme done reggae style on number 3. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: MP3 for Mac? Date: 06 Feb 2000 11:28:48 -0800 >Start with these URLs, and you can see a pretty complete listing of >Mac MP3 software: >http://software.mp3.com/software/featured/macintosh/player/ >http://software.mp3.com/software/all/macintosh/encoder/ > >Two of the best-regarded commercial encoders are: >http://www.soundjam.com/ >http://www.n2mp3.com/ > >(Both of them can go directly from CD to MP3 files without the >intermediate step of saving giant AIFFs on your hard disk.) I'm not sure that soundjam is a free app, though. I suggested the Toast Audio Extractor because Macs that have CD burners already have this program and therefore don't have to go looking for something else. >Is anyone aware of a freeware encoder for Mac? The MPecker betas seem >to be gone now. MPecker is a decoder, not an encoder. The encoder called "MP3 Encoder (version 0.12)" is what I found on the web for the Mac; it is freeware. A search of all search engines using Sherlock found it for me pretty quick. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! Date: 06 Feb 2000 16:09:14 -0500 >So breakbeat is simply when all other instrumentation stops and the drummer >goes through his rolls and keeps the beat movin'? Why is that a genre? >Because it gets sampled? Where am I? JB I used to be confused by the ever-germinating terminology of this moderne dance music. But once I found a website that set out to explain it all (sorry, no idea of the URL now). And reading through it, I realized that they're just making up their own terms for already existing musical concepts. Like... as I read one definition, I realized that they were simply talking about a 16th note groove. And so on. So now I understand that it's only the reinvented terminology that make it confusing. If I heard the music, I would say, "Oh, *that* ol' thing! Okay." m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! doh! Date: 06 Feb 2000 17:04:56 -0500 >I used to be confused by the ever-germinating terminology of this moderne >dance music. But once I found a website that set out to explain it all Pertinent detail that I forgot to mention: The site included little sound files illustrating the various terms. So I could read their explanation and then listen to the file. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: (exotica) these are the breaks Date: 06 Feb 2000 17:09:24 -0500 The term 'breakbeat' is used as a genre reference in electronic music shops, and like all of those terms it includes a variety of styles based on a common denominator. Every style of electronic dance music has a number of subgenres or multiple definitions (i.e. there's house, deep house, tech house, progressive house, afro house, tribal house, latin house, blah blah blah) that are used to help differentiate the sound. Breakbeat simply refers to records whose rhythm tracks are derived/sampled from 70's funk (specifically, from the drum breaks, although drum machines are used as well). There is a subgenre often called electro, aka nu breaks/Miami breaks, that is a faster, noisier version of '80's electro (e.g. Africa Bambaata, Jonzun Crew, smurf records, etc, which of course all point backwards to Kraftwerk). The funky rhythms are what differentiate it from house, techno, trance and drum 'n bass, all of which have their own rhythmic styles (and of all of them, only drum 'n bass and breakbeat do not feature the standard 4-on-the-floor kickdrum. When you mix break records, you rely more on matching the snare hits rather than the kickdrum). Juno Records in London places the records under the category "Breakbeat, Funk & Hip Hop"; you can listen to MP3 snippets of many releases at http://www.juno.co.uk) These terms are there to help people find their way in the dense world of electronic music, where hundreds of new 12" records are released each week, often by faceless artists in plain sleeves. (in fact, a great majority of people buy these records by label name, as labels define the sound contained within). Without categorizations like these a person just wouldn't know where to start looking in these shops (and it is certainly a daunting experience for first timers.) Fortunately, turntables are provided for previewing records (and while CD's exist, this is almost exclusively a vinyl domain.) The style of breakbeat records we've been refering to in the list are related to 'big beat', and acts like Fat Boy Slim, The Wiseguys and Propellerheads are godfathers of the sound. The majority of the records tend to come from Britain (London and Brighton specifically), Berlin and Italy. There's much more of an 'everything but the kitchen sink' approach to production than in the other genres of dance music, as lots of samples get thrown into the mix, and there are certainly more samples from easy listening, now sound, and soundtrack albums than anywhere else, except maybe hip hop. That's where the content comes in as it applies to this list. The Wiseguys have routinely based their singles on this stuff (their last 'hit', "Ooh La La", was built on a Now Sound sample, and their first single was based on a Barry Gray loop taken from the 'Stingray' supermarionation TV soundtrack; The Propellerheads recorded with Shirley Bassey and did a number of spy-theme styled recordings). Jacknife Lee, Bobby Hughes, Freddy Fresh and Mike Young have lots of Now Sound, latin and organ jazz samples on their records; Ursula 1000's album "The Now Sound Of Ursula 1000" is, like Tipsy, a cornicopia of EZ, exotica, soundtrack, spoken word, and latin samples; Los Chicharrons album "Bongo Heaven/Conga Hell" is made mostly of mambo, cha cha and boogaloo samples. The most reoccuring sample in the genre is the drumbreak from The Incredible Bongo Band's 1973 recording of 'Apache' (which Grandmaster Flash used to good effect back in the '80's). There is a lot of fun and humor in these records, items in short supply in techno, trance and jungle (not to mention rock and rap), but abundant in space age bach pad, now sound, etc. Why mention this stuff on this list? Because of the 'name that sample' aspect to many of these records, and because its fair to say that a good number of the artists are fans of (and own lots of) the type of recordings that are discussed here. A quick visit to Ursula 1000's website (www.ursula1000.com) will show you graphic imagery taken from records you all know and love (check out "Ursula"'s head placed on James Coburn's cartoon body from the Our Man Flint cover). Artists like Maxwell Implosion, The Karminsky Experience, Stereo DeLuxe and Le Hammond Inferno all began as Loungecore DJ's, and there is some crossover to records by Shibuya-kei musicians like Fantastic Plastic Machine, Pizzacato Five and United Future Organization, all of whom produce much music that is stylized after lounge/exotica. There's also the crossover for DJ's with the Now Sound and funky Italian soundtracks, as evidenced by the "Kinky Beats" compilation. The Karminskys mix these sounds up weekly at Blow Up in London; I'm starting a new clubnight next month in Boston doing the same. Check out Ursula 1000 on Thursday nights at Drinkland in New York City, Senor Amor in Los Angeles at Liquid Kitty and at The Encounter, DJ Laureano at the Deluxe in San Francisco, Thievery Corporation at Wasington DC's 18th Street Lounge, Fantastic Plastic Machine at his weekly residency in Kyoto.......... As Brian so beautifully put it, >" I think we share the same compulsion to keep on discovering" br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Yoshinori Sunahara Date: 06 Feb 2000 16:54:18 -0500 At 10:19 AM -0500 2/6/00, M H Jemmeson wrote: >> Yoshinori Sunahara "Pan-Am '70" LP >He's obsessed with aeroplanes: He has another album called 'Take-offs >and Landings', although this isn't as good IMO as 'Pan Am - Sounds of >70s'. I think this is also on Bungalow. You're right about his obsession. He has another album, which I believe was a promotional only release, called "Tokyo Underground Airport", which is a spoken word (in English)/musical "documentary" of this mythical futuristic place. The packaging was a deluxe, full color, spectacular book, done in a 60's graphic style (no, I can't explain that, but you know it when you see it) showing the airport, and all the details like the flight bags, etc etc. Must have cost a fortune to produce (this is on vinyl, not some little cd booklet); evidently the only way to get a copy was from Sunahara himself. (No, I don't have one, but I know a few folks who do). br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj Batman Subject: (exotica) Il Giaguaro #0 (new cool magazine from Italy) Date: 06 Feb 2000 23:36:56 +0100 I've finally found found a few days ago this mag at a sort of book fair (#0, dated October 1999, but this was the first time I saw it!!). This issue has texts in Italian but they say from #1 it will be bilingual (with English translation). Il Giaguaro (The Jaguar!:)) is a cool mag about Italian easy listening,lounge,exotica and more cool stuff from 1960's and 70's! It is not cheap (L.15000 which means about $9) but it contains a vinyl 7" EP with 4 Morricone tracks (Ennio Morricone In Lounge: contains (Belinda May, Gli Intoccabili, Allegretto per Signora, L'Alibi... all from the years 1969/70; the first and the last track also feature the Alessandroni's "Cantori Moderni" on chorus. Some of the main features are: a 4-page interview with Alessandroni with some cool pics of his old record covers (and even one recent pic of the Maestro playing sitar... he was one of the first Italian musicians introducing the sitar in his works). A funny bit: when he recalls Morricone calling him, decades ago and telling "Alessandro, come here, we need some whistle for a film". He didn't know that "film" would have been "For a fistful of dollars"... Another great article is about Maurizio Majorana, one of "Marc 4", composers/musicians also working for national TV Rai in the 1970's, telling stories about their life with folks like Ortolani, Trovajoli, Morricone etc., and how they had to use pseudonyms and friends to register their compositions for copyright (at the time you weren't allowed to compose your own stuff and work for Rai at the same time... or you would have abused of your position playing your tunes as TV themes... so Majorana and friends had to use several other "aliases" to publish their own music and then also use it in the italian TV!!!). Also, info on Irma reprints of Marc 4 and how french and japanese markets became interested in rediscovering their music, too. More features: classic BMW motorcycles, a reprint of a Cassius Clay interview, Italian "Sexadelic" movies, reviews of new & reprint cds, Spy Music, "Killing" (a "fumetti-style" photo mag rip-off of the comic "Kriminal"... real weird stuff!!!:)))), analgue music, a short article about easy listening in san francisco (?), an interview with Byron Werner titled "The revenge of spage age bachelor pad music", some sexy Brigitte Maiers pics from 1974 (including the central 2-page pic, looking like an old Playboy issue poster...). The mix may look weird but it's very cool in my opinion! more info from: Il Giaguardo c/o Alessandro Casella Via Castruccio Castracane 3 00176 Roma casy@mclink.it # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj Batman Subject: Re: (exotica) New compilations Date: 06 Feb 2000 23:36:47 +0100 >2069 A Spaced Oddity >has Werner Muller - Bodybuilding, this one was sampled in 1997 by Bentley Rhythm Ace... bye, Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista "Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief" (Bono) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) New compilations Date: 06 Feb 2000 17:51:48 EST In a message dated 2/6/0 1:43:56 PM, michael@jemmeson.freeserve.co.uk wrote: >Also a new comp of Jacky Mittoo tracks from Soul Jazz (producers of the >100% dynamite series) which is nice if you like both reggae and Hammond. Le Hammond Inferno (German?) has out a nice 12"er called "Margret Evening Fashion" where they build a singular groove based on an old 6T's ska sample. The organ groove, though singular riff-wise throughout is kinda hypnotic and very danceable...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) these are the breaks Date: 06 Feb 2000 18:06:13 EST In a message dated 2/6/0 5:10:49 PM, bcleve@pop.tiac.net wrote: > Fortunately, turntables are provided >for previewing records (in vinyl-only shops selling electronica) I had my first experience the other day here in Boston. While listening is necessary, some of the vinyl takes a beating from the careless listeners who just slap the needle anywhere on the disc to get a sample of the groove. The management does it too! The boss was slapping 12" after 12" on the OTA Technics and almost without exception you heard a terrible ripping sound as the needle missed the record groove and got dragged across a few vinyl mountains. Je'd listen for all of 4 seconds and tear it off and repeat the action. And the other problem seems to be that they stock two or three copies of everything and they all seem to be pre-tasted. (I bought an old Loleatta Holloway 12" record I hadn't heard simply because I'm a Holloway compleatist) The SINGLE record cost me over 10 bucks. I guess that's the price for the listening privilege....JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Just Thinking Date: 06 Feb 2000 15:41:36 -0800 (PST) I saw the group Mr. Bungle about a month ago. They did a really great version of Hurry to Me by Roy Budd. They've also done Morricone covers and other stuff, along with the Dead Kennedies. Full of variety, that's how I like it. Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) these are the breaks Date: 06 Feb 2000 21:33:18 -0500 At 6:06 PM -0500 2/6/00, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: >some of the vinyl takes a beating from the careless listeners who >just slap the needle anywhere on the disc to get a sample of the groove. yeah, it happens, but the vinyl they use to press these records is pretty sturdy. Don't forget, it's going to get abused every night by a DJ, what with cueing into your spot, working the record in many ways to get the beats matched (which is why CD's suck - - you just can't do any of that properly), backcueing in time to the beat, etc etc. DJ'ing is very hard work (it only sounds easy), and it takes a toll on the vinyl and the stylus. >And the other problem seems to be that they stock two or three copies >of everything and they all seem to be pre-tasted. Dance records are released in very limited numbers. Sometimes only one copy will make it to the shop and be bought by a clerk before it ever makes it out. The truly dedicated show up on release day (Wednesdays in Boston, Tuesdays in NY, Mondays in London.......) and fight over grabbing the new records. In many ways these records are like comic books, baseball cards and other 'instant collectors items' of today. Don't buy it the day it comes out, and you'll never find it again. I've bought lots of records at different shops around the world that I've never ever seen anywhere else ever again. >The SINGLE record cost me over 10 bucks. I guess that's the price for the >listening privilege.... no, that's just what they cost now. Import 12" singles are 10 bucks, US 12" singles are $6 or $7. The prices are comparable if you are buying them in New York or Paris, it doesn't matter. Don't forget, CD's are 17 bucks in the US (about 25 or 30 equivalent in Europe, about 30 to 35 in Japan; what's a new CD go for in Canada now.....Brian, Nat, Cheryl, Will?); new 45's are 4 or 5 dollars, new vinyl albums in the US are about $16. It's all relative. A pack of smokes was 30 cents 30 years ago, now they're almost five dollars. I'm not saying that's a good thing, it's just what it is. But it ain't flea markets, the salvation army, used rekkid stores, etc. These are new records, and you have to pay for 'em. Unlike major label rock, etc, there is no black market selling illegal promo copies at every used record store in town, as this is an industry comprised almost entirely of small independant labels (just like the old days.....no wonder I like it!) ok, somebody shut me up now br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: (exotica) The new Thomas Crowne Affair, my two cents Date: 06 Feb 2000 23:31:46 EST After reading several months ago all the cries of foul on this list that the "classic" '60s film "The Thomas Crowne Affair" was being remade, I decided to rent this "heretical" new version last night. Well, I'll be damned if it isn't a better film than the orignal and while not being a Sting fan by any means, his performance of "Windmills Of Your Mind" is far better than only-ranking-a-footnote middling pop singer Noel Harrison's version. Michel Legrand's own heartfelt performance is still the best and Legrand's original soundtrack is a superb piece of music, but over all I found the new version to be far more satisfying - and that is coming from a big Steve McQueen fan. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mofo2148" Subject: (exotica) Friendly Persuasion Radio Show - Week of 02/07/00 Date: 06 Feb 2000 23:25:31 -0800 Week of 02/07/00 The Friendly Persuasion Show Cool and Strange Music Magazine's weekly radio show on Antenna Internet Radio. http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm Get your RealAudio player ready and tune in anytime during this week to hear: 1. Benito Urghu - Sexy Fonni 2. Vijaya Anano - I am the Emperor 3. Joe Pesci - Got To Get You Into My Life 4. The Templeton Twins & Teddy Turner's Bunsen Burners - Hey Jude 5. Al Gilbert & Chorus - Tomorrow 6. Miss Nelson & Bruce - Abracadabra 7. Kali Bahlu - Cosmic Rememberance 8. Screamin' Jay Hawkins - Hong Kong 9. Petula Clark - Coke Commercial 10. Shut Up Little Man - Introducing Peter 11. Henry Mancini - Springtime For Hitler 12. Shut Up Little Man - You Don't Have Friends 13. The Road Runner - The Long and Winding Road 14. Ken DeFeudis - Lover Without a Cause 15. Georgie Young & The Rockin' Bocs - Yogi 16. The Flintstones for Winston Cigarettes 17. Andy Griffith - The Whistling Ping Pong Game 18. Mrs. Grossman (and Marty) - Hunt and Peck 19. The Six Philharmonicas - Powerhouse 20. Alvino Rey and "Stringy" - Sleepytown Train 21. 101 Strings - Whiplash 22. Miss Nelson & Bruce - Funky Little Song 23-26. More "Shut Up Little Man" Thanks for listening, Otis Mr. Otis F-Odder mofo2148@speakeasy.org www.thebranflakes.com Cool & Strange Music Magazine - www.coolandstrange.com Antenna Internet Radio - www.antennaradio.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) these are the breaks Date: 07 Feb 2000 12:40:20 -0000 Special DJ price, mate. When that Moloko thing came out last summer, admittedly as a double pack 12" single, it was going for 10 UK Pounds. and still flying out of the racks. (Br Cleve didn't mention it but the other thing about these shops is that the only stuff being bought comes from the racks behind the counter). El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ DJJimmyBee@aol.com > Fortunately, turntables are provided >for previewing records (in vinyl-only shops selling electronica) I had my first experience the other day here in Boston. The SINGLE record cost me over 10 bucks. I guess that's the price for the listening privilege....JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) Lee Hazlewood again Date: 07 Feb 2000 13:30:58 -0000 Saw a review of another Smells Like... re-release of a Lee Hazlewood LP, This time '13', reviewed in last Fridays guardian. Sounds wonderful from the article. It seems that these things are published a few weeks before the LP actually surfaces. Does anyone have any details on this, release date, formats (esp Vinyl)? Thanks fer ye help El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: MP3 for Mac?? Date: 06 Feb 2000 19:46:02 +0100 to play MP3: soundApp is completely free, and plays/converts just about any sound format in existence: http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~franke/SoundApp/ to grab audio from CD, you can use several free extracting utilities, like GrabAudio or CDToAIFF, or QuickTime's MoviePlayer/ QuickTime Player . to code the MP3's, you can try the Shareware MPEGGER (FORMERLY MPECKER ENCODER) http://2.digital.cnet.com/cgi-bin2/flo?x=doKmoEEEEwEoBYum Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) the poetic cockroach on a typewriter Date: 07 Feb 2000 13:53:31 +0100 some of you might have swapped tapes with a guy who calls himself the "Underground culture Vulture". i did, and was disappoited by the lack of track lists. even more when he refused to tell me the origin of a specific track: a crime jazzy piece about a poetic cockroach that writes on a typewriter. anyone recognises this decription? johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) recent mancini RCA/BMG Spain reissues Date: 07 Feb 2000 14:20:19 +0100 just bought "two for the road" and "our man in hollywood", 2 recent mancini reissues on RCA/BMG Spain. "two for the road" is not bad, but not as good as i hoped either: a couple of stand-out tracks, but also 3 slimey tracks that are too eazzzzzzzzzzy for me. "our man in hollywood" was a nice surprise, with only one so-so track, and several very good ones, in his typical sixties "Uniquely Mancini" sound: lush, but still with a nice groove. i didn't go for "high time". anyone can recommend that one? johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James at The Details" Subject: Re: (exotica) the poetic cockroach on a typewriter Date: 07 Feb 2000 15:10:06 -0000 >a crime jazzy piece about a poetic cockroach that writes on a >typewriter. anyone recognises this decription Sounds like it's something to do with the story "archie and mehitabel" by Don Marquis - a story about a cat, written by a cockroach typist James # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits]Joachim-Ernst Berendt,Doris Kenner-Jackson,Claude Autant-Lara,John Vincent Imbragulio,Todd Karns Date: 07 Feb 2000 10:25:22 -0500 Friday February 4 11:24 AM ET German Jazz Advocate Berendt Dies HAMBURG, Germany (AP) - Joachim-Ernst Berendt, known as the ``Pope of Jazz'' for his leading role promoting the American-rooted music in Germany, died Friday, a day after he was hit by a car. He was 77. A spokeswoman at the University Clinic in Hamburg confirmed that Berendt had died Friday morning. Berendt was critically injured when he was struck Thursday evening as he was walking to an event to promote his new book ``Nur Gehen,'' or ``Only Walking,'' his version of experiences with nature, said a spokesman for the music department at Suedwestrundfunk radio in Baden-Baden. Berendt co-founded the radio station, and led more that 10,000 broadcasts featuring the music he loved. He was the author of a number of works on jazz, including ``The Jazz Book,'' published in 1952, ``Variations of Jazz,'' in 1956, and ``I Hear, Therefore I Exist,'' in 1996. ``The Jazz Book'' was translated into 18 languages and sold more than 1.5 million copies worldwide. Berendt regularly toured the United States, Japan and other countries promoting jazz. He produced some 250 long-play records for such companies as MPS, Atlantic and Electrola. A poll conducted in 1970 by the American-based music publication ``Jazz and Pop'' voted him Europe's best jazz producer. He is survived by his wife Marijan. Funeral plans were not complete. -------- SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- Doris Kenner-Jackson of the pop-rock group the Shirelles, whose soaring harmonies on ``Soldier Boy'' and a number of other songs brought huge success in the early 1960s, died Friday. She was 58. Jackson, who had breast cancer, died at Kaiser Permanente Medical Center, her cousin Evelyn Jackson said from her home in Goldsboro, N.C. The Shirelles, composed of Jackson, Shirley Alston Reeves, Beverly Lee and the late Addie ``Micki'' Harris, began their career at a high school talent show in Passaic, N.J., in 1957, singing their own composition, ``I Met Him on Sunday.'' A classmate who heard them told her mother, independent record producer Florence Greenberg, who helped them record the song the following year. Aided by legendary producer Phil Specter, they turned out a string of hits through the early '60s, including ``Tonight's The Night,'' ``Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow,'' ``Soldier Boy,'' ``Baby It's You,'' and ``Dedicated to the One I Love,'' the latter featuring Jackson on lead vocal. Their songs, like those of several other popular ``girl groups'' of the early '60s including Specter's Ronettes, were notable for their tight harmonies, bouncy upbeat lyrics and lush musical arrangements known as Specter's ``Wall of Sound.'' Jackson, who was born in North Carolina, moved to New Jersey as a child, where she sang in church and with friends. After their early success with ``I Met Him on Sunday,'' all four of the group dropped out of high school to pursue their musical careers, each earning diplomas later. -------- NICE, France (AP) -- Claude Autant-Lara, the French director known for his caustic jabs at bourgeois society and his right-wing political stances late in life, died early Saturday in a clinic in Antibes, a funeral home said. He was 98. One of France's most prolific directors, Autant-Lara directed more than 30 films, many of them classics of 1940s and 1950s French cinema. His career reached its height in the 1950s with films such as ``Le Diable au Corps,'' or ``Devil in the Flesh,'' which scandalized France with its account of a schoolboy's affair with a woman whose husband was away at war. Many attacked the film, calling it pro-adultery and antifamily, but Autant-Lara had already found his voice as a provocateur. Born in 1901 to an architect father and an actress mother, Autant-Lara discovered the cinema while studying at France's prestigious School of Fine Arts. He made his first short films in the 1920s before heading to Hollywood in the 1930s to supervise the French versions of Buster Keaton films, among others. Some of his best-known works include ``Le Rouge et le Noir,'' or ``The Red and the Black,'' based on Stendahl's novel, and ``La Traversee de Paris,'' or ``Four Bags Full,'' an account of two men stealthily crossing Paris at night during the German occupation. Other films include ``Le Comte de Monte Christo,'' and ``En Cas de Malheur,'' or ``Love is My Profession,'' with Brigitte Bardot and Jean Gabin. Autant-Lara was not popular with New Wave filmmakers such as Francois Truffaut, who criticized his films as outdated and scorned his reliance on the dialogue and plots of his screenwriters. By the 1970s Autant-Lara's career was in decline, and his last film, ``Gloria,'' was largely ignored by critics. The filmmaker took the spotlight again during the 1980s when he came out in support of far-right politician Jean-Marie Le Pen. Autant-Lara himself was elected to the European Parliament in 1989 as a member of the far-right National Front, though he soon resigned after the monthly magazine ``Globe'' quoted him as saying a French politician who survived a concentration camp had been ``missed'' by the Nazis. Autant-Lara, who spent much of his later life in the South of France, died after a long illness, the funeral home said. His funeral will be held privately at his family's request. ------- JACKSON, Miss. (AP) -- John Vincent Imbragulio, who produced the classic rock 'n' roll single ``Sea Cruise'' and others during his half century in the music business, died Friday of heart failure. He was 74. Imbragulio owned Ace Records, Ace Music Publishers and Avanti Records, his latest venture. Imbragulio's first record label got him noticed in the 1950s by Art Rupe of Speciality Records. From there, he would work with Rupe and soon after make Ace Records his next label. ``Ace Record Co. was New Orleans' only independent record company at the time,'' said close friend Woody Sistrunk. ``It was with Ace Records that he produced Huey 'Piano' Smith's 'Rockin' Pneumonia' and the 'Boogie Woogie Flu' and later, Frankie Ford's 'Sea Cruise,' which has remained one of the most requested rock 'n' roll songs of all time.'' ----- *Todd Karns AJIJIC, Mexico (AP) -- Todd Karns, who made his biggest mark on the movies with a defining line in ``It's a Wonderful Life'' as the older brother of Jimmy Stewart's George Bailey, died Saturday. He was 79 and had cancer. Karns played Harry Bailey, who in the Christmas classic's final scene made the memorable toast, ``To my big brother, George. The richest man in town!'' Karns appeared in many movies and television shows in the 1940s and '50s, including ``The Caine Mutiny,'' ``China Venture,'' ``My Foolish Heart'' and two films from the Andy Hardy series. He also appeared in the TV series ``Rocky King, Detective'' alongside his father, Roscoe Karns, whose acting career extended from the mid-1910s to the 1960s. Karns, like his best-known movie character, was also a World War II veteran. Karns and his wife moved to Ajijic, Mexico in 1971, located on Lake Chapala, south of Guadalajara. They opened the Lakeside Little Theater, an English-language theater where Karns produced and directed for three decades. ---- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) these are the breaks Date: 07 Feb 2000 10:30:04 -0500 > no, that's just what they cost now. Import 12" singles are 10 bucks, US 12" > singles are $6 or $7. The prices are comparable if you are buying them in > New York or Paris, it doesn't matter. Don't forget, CD's are 17 bucks in > the US (about 25 or 30 equivalent in Europe, about 30 to 35 in Japan; > what's a new CD go for in Canada now.....Brian, Nat, Cheryl, Will?) We in Canada seem to be pretty fortunate - a new CD here goes for around $18 or $20 CDN or less, as a rule.(which is well under $14 US) French import CDs tend to cost close to the same price as domestic CDs in Montreal, which is nice, although UK imports are pretty exorbitant... I'm still trying to figure out why a German or French import CD will cost much less here for the same CD than it does in Germany or France - often as little as half as much! Why are CD prices in Europe so exorbitant? Can anyone elighten me on this one? cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thinkmatic@aol.com Subject: (exotica) I love Australians,Mandingo and Quad Date: 07 Feb 2000 10:36:09 EST Someone (Peter) just sent me an EMI Australia digitally remastered CD of Mandingo's, "The Primeval Rhythm of Life". The CD makes special note to mention that it was remixed in 1995 from the EMI Sydney 1/4" Abbey Road Masters. The thing that impressed me most is that the liner notes mention that during the remastering they went out of their way to preserve the SQ Quadraphonic matrix, so you can play the CD through a quad decoder and it will play back Quad. I knew it could be done, but this is the first time I've seen it done and actually mentioned as a selling feature on the CD. By the way, the CD sounds great just in stereo, I can't wait to track down a SQ decoder. Has anyone else seen CDs that mention the fact that they were remastered from quad originals and that the quad information in the recording is left intact? -Roy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Zach_Douglas@Dell.com Subject: (exotica) RE: Re: Breakbeat! Date: 07 Feb 2000 10:00:44 -0600 Concerning the definition of breakbeat... It probably has multiple meanings as I remember it being used to describe a certain kind of tecno/house music too.. however.. I think the most correct term for breakbeat is a song whos beat has been sampled to make another song... good example that exotica fans might be familiar with is the Incredible Bongo Band.. there song Apache was used long ago in the Grandmaster Flash tune Apache and the big crazy drum and bongo beat has been used ever since in dozens of hip hop songs. Another of their songs makes up the beat to the Beastie Boys "Loooking Down the Barrel of a Gun". There are a few Turtles songs like Buzzsaw and I'm Chief Kamanawanalea that have been used a lot. There are a lot of great compilations out there which may have started this thread such as the 'digging in the crates' series which features 10 old tracks which range from exotica to soul which contain breakbeats that have been used in hip-hop tracks. It's fun to recognize the breakbeat used but even when I don't the music is usually very good. I've seen Les Baxter and other exotica names on the Digging in the Crates compilations. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) recent mancini RCA/BMG Spain reissues Date: 07 Feb 2000 08:12:41 -0800 >just bought "two for the road" and "our man in hollywood", 2 recent mancini >reissues on RCA/BMG Spain. "two for the road" is not bad, but not as good >as i hoped either: a couple of stand-out tracks, but also 3 slimey tracks >that are too eazzzzzzzzzzy for me. > >"our man in hollywood" was a nice surprise, with only one so-so track, and >several very good ones, in his typical sixties "Uniquely Mancini" sound: >lush, but still with a nice groove. If you like "Our Man In Hollywood", you would probably also like "Combo!", "Uniquely Mancini", "Mancini '67", "The Blues and The Beat" and other ones like this that feature his big band sound and excellent arrangements. >i didn't go for "high time". anyone can recommend that one? I've got it, although be advised that's not one of the nine just released in January by BMG/Spain. It's been out for a little while. The jewel case insert in the back cover has a few typos on it ("The Nuty Professor" instead of "The Nutty Professor", etc.) The disc also has some non-Mancini material on it that was used in the film (noteably Sammy Cahn's "The Second Time Around"). Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Body Art at AMNH Date: 07 Feb 2000 11:42:49 -0500 http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/bodyart/ Body Art: Marks of Identity is a new exhibition at the American Museum of Natural History exploring the ways in which human beings around the world, past and present, decorate their bodies. Celebrating both cultural invention and individual artistry, Body Art: Marks of Identity presents over 600 objects and many images from around the world dating from c. 3000 B.C. to the present, including superb sculptures, paintings, contemporary and historical photographs, rare books, engravings, and films. The exhibition examines the historical and cultural significance behind ancient and modern body art practices including tattooing, piercing, body painting, body reshaping, henna, and scarification. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mofo2148" Subject: (exotica) Breakbeats (the saga continues...) Date: 07 Feb 2000 09:04:49 -0800 BREAKBEATS... In the early 80's I used to buy "BREAKBEAT" records which would have oh, maybe 10 cuts on each record. Each piece would be a 2-8 bar loop repeating (USUALLY NOT CHANGING UP). For example... using the first bar of APACHE or FUNKY DRUMMER or COLD SWEAT or IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT or DANCE TO THE DRUMMERS BEAT and having it loop over and over (for about 3 minutes!). This made it easy (when you had 3 tables running to let the beat play on the 3rd table and cut on 1 table and mix on the other. Or they were great to just put on and play while an MC flowed over the beat. or to get two copies and do double ups. I still have 2 copies of all my 80's 'Breakbeat' records. The most famous of these in the 80's was the "Beats Breaks & Scratches" series by Simon Harris... (or actually these were the most 'commercial'). My favorites (still to this day are the records that were put out by "The 45 King". Then you had lame ones like Cameron Paul's series (ugh..) These breakbeat records also did not always have to be a "percussion loop"... they could incorporate rhythms also. Gradually towards the late 80's "Breakbeat" records tended to have more change-up's in the cuts (like Coldcuts' breakbeat series or the excellent series, DJ FOOD). Basically "Breakbeat" is NOT new at all... it has just evolved from the early 80's Breakbeat records. And those early 80's Breakbeat records evolved from... and they evolved from... and they evolved from... etc.... It's funny... but Simon Harris actually re-issued some of those early breakbeat records on CD now! I still can't imagine using them on CD though... how to you break the beat down or cut with it? Believe me... I hate the effect of cutting on a pro mix cd player... ugh... hope this all helps. -- Otis Mr. Otis F-Odder mofo2148@speakeasy.org Box 21104, Seattle, WA 98111 USA www.thebranflakes.com Let's Take a Trip................ www.coolandstrange.com www.antennaradio.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) recent mancini RCA/BMG Spain reissues Date: 07 Feb 2000 12:13:15 -0500 At 8:20 AM -0500 2/7/00, Johan Dada Vis wrote: >i didn't go for "high time". anyone can recommend that one? not one of his better efforts, imho br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Lee Hazlewood again Date: 07 Feb 2000 18:41:42 +0100 Reader Geoff wrote: > Saw a review of another Smells Like... re-release of a Lee Hazlewood LP, > This time '13', reviewed in last Fridays guardian. Sounds wonderful from > the article. It seems that these things are published a few weeks before > the LP actually surfaces. Does anyone have any details on this, release > date, formats (esp Vinyl)? It's out already. I saw the vinyl copy in my record shop, but didn't buy it, because I have most of the songs on CD already. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, February 6 Date: 07 Feb 2000 18:41:41 +0100 Moritz R wrote: > > > Andreas Dorau & Moritz R: Der letzte Popsong "Poptics" > > > > Mo, what's this?? > > It's what it says: The last pop song of the 20th century. And we wrote it. Did you only do this one song together, or did you do a whole CD? Marco -- Marco "Kallie" Kalnenek +------------------------------------------+ Record Collector's Heaven http://weirdomusic.freeservers.com/ +------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) these are the 45 breaks Date: 07 Feb 2000 13:40:44 EST In a message dated 2/6/0 9:54:31 PM, bcleve@pop.tiac.net wrote: >new >45's are 4 or 5 dollars, I guess that partly explains my Soul Record Detective Eddie "B"s shocked reaction to seeing the group Big Jim's Border Crossing's 1973 failure called "Good For Me Girl" listed in Discoveries for $150.00. (He knows the listing guy and remembers GIVING him the record in 1980) Sorry if this is off subject, but this list seems to like this sort of info, or at least I do! ... DJJB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) I love Australians,Mandingo and Quad Date: 08 Feb 2000 08:39:35 +1100 on 8/2/00 2:36 AM, Thinkmatic@aol.com at Thinkmatic@aol.com wrote: > > Someone (Peter) just sent me an EMI Australia digitally remastered CD of > Mandingo's, "The Primeval Rhythm of Life". > This cd was selling in Melbourne discounted to about $5.00 Australian dollars (about $3.00 US) last year. It certainly does sound great. Philip # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M H Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeats (the saga continues...) Date: 07 Feb 2000 22:26:41 +0000 mofo2148 wrote: > > BREAKBEATS... > > In the early 80's I used to buy "BREAKBEAT" records which would have > oh, maybe 10 cuts on each record. Each piece would be a 2-8 bar loop > repeating (USUALLY NOT CHANGING UP). For example... using the first > bar of APACHE or FUNKY DRUMMER or COLD SWEAT or IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT > or DANCE TO THE DRUMMERS BEAT and having it loop over and over (for > about 3 minutes!). This made it easy (when you had 3 tables running > to let the beat play on the 3rd table and cut on 1 table and mix on > the other. Or they were great to just put on and play while an MC > flowed over the beat. or to get two copies and do double ups. I guess with the decline in DJing in Hip hop (along with breakdancing and graffiti, leaving the MCs as the stars) breaks records have a smaller market. The exponents seem to have moved towards 'turntablism' and fancy scratching rather than cutting breaks back and forth. By including whole tracks as most comps do now they get an audience of listeners and 'normal' djs too, although with some of the tracks the two bar break or whatever is by far the best bit, which can be disapointing. The Ultimate Breaks and Beats series had full length tracks back in the eighties, i believe, as did the Super Disco Brakes series. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! Date: 07 Feb 2000 16:45:02 -0500 At 12:59 PM 2/6/0, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: >So breakbeat is simply when all other instrumentation stops and the drummer >goes through his rolls and keeps the beat movin'? Another tidbit for the definitions. I first heard the term in the 80s when I saw Grandmaster Flash perform at a club in Ann Arbor--someone yelled, "Breakbeat!" and the guys on the turntables started scratching and mixing. And they mixed music, not only rhythm tracks--P-Funk, etc. That's what I always thought breakbeat meant: get ready for some wicked mixin', turntable style. Which seems to has evolved to mean mostly sampling. Wasn't there also an 80s documentary about breakdancing called Breakbeat? It's like a jungle sometimes, Sometimes I wonder how I keep from goin' under, uh-huh uh-huh huh-huh. Ex-Clubette Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M H Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeats (the saga continues...) Date: 07 Feb 2000 22:36:24 +0000 All this reminds me, Blue Break Beats Vol 2 (blue note) is astoundingly excellent, and converted me to jazz when it came out back in 94 or something. It's jazz-funk stuff, but all pretty soulful and funky, and not tepid fusion stuff as the genre can be sometimes, nor do you get the feeling that the tracks are included because a famous track sampled them. 10/10! By a conversion, i mean I then realised that jazz was no longer random notes... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) more burnin CD questions Date: 07 Feb 2000 19:19:29 -0500 Is it true that if you have one of those stand-alone rewritable CD recorders, that you can only play those CD's on that machine? Or to say it another way, somebody told me that those more expensive CDR's, on which you can make mistakes and re-record, are only playable on one of those re-recordable machines. If true, that sucks. If true, what's the point of that machine? That means you'd still need ANOTHER recordable CD system to make dubs with. If true, that totally screws up my fantasy/plans. I'm sitting here making this tape "The Unison of Now", featuring the Lettermen, Sandpipers, Anita Kerr Singers etc and almost drooling with anticipation of the day I can "archive" and then dump these LP's. Maybe minidisc is the solution? Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) more burnin CD questions Date: 07 Feb 2000 17:11:35 -0800 >Is it true that if you have one of those stand-alone rewritable CD >recorders, that you can only play those CD's on that machine? >Or to say it another way, somebody told me that those more expensive CDR's, >on which you can make mistakes and re-record, are only playable on one of >those re-recordable machines. Yes, that's true. >If true, that sucks. If true, what's the point of that machine? That you can (supposedly) reuse/rewrite the discs instead of spending money to buy write-once discs. But, you are definitely tied to the CD-RW machine for using them. I've *heard* that DVD players can also read CD-RWs, but I haven't tried that yet so that may not be true. But if so, DVD players would be the only other way you could play a CD-RW disc. >That >means you'd still need ANOTHER recordable CD system to make dubs with. >If true, that totally screws up my fantasy/plans. >I'm sitting here making this tape "The Unison of Now", featuring the >Lettermen, Sandpipers, Anita Kerr Singers etc and almost drooling with >anticipation of the day I can "archive" and then dump these LP's. >Maybe minidisc is the solution? I'm not sure what's the reason you could not just record your LPs to CD-R instead of CD-RW (CD-R discs play in ALL my CD players (personal, computer, home stereo magazine player, boom box, et al.).... It's best to use CD-RW for repeatable data archiving, instead of music archiving, since their discs cannot be played on regular CD players. In other words, for making weekly backups of your computer data and such, CD-RW is the better way to go. So it just depends on what your usage of the discs is going to be. I am in the midst of putting all my vinyl on CD-R right now, though it is an ongoing project and time-consuming, and I do only 1-2 LPs at a time... Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) more burnin CD questions Date: 07 Feb 2000 20:30:09 -0500 >>almost drooling with >>anticipation of the day I can "archive" and then dump these LP's. > >I am in the midst of putting all my vinyl on CD-R right now I want one of these PhonOcord gizmos that Gus has documented, so I can archive my CDs to 78rpm acetates. http://www.shellac.org/phonocord/ m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Horne" Subject: (exotica) Many thanks for musicblvd.com info!! (OT) Date: 07 Feb 2000 22:01:53 -0500 - Thanks all! Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Larson/Thomas" Subject: RE: (exotica) the poetic cockroach on a typewriter Date: 07 Feb 2000 19:38:15 -0800 Maybe the answer can be found here? http://www.nodanw.com/shows_a/archy.htm Archy the typing cockroach is a literary character, and the basis of a 1957 musical (see the Internet site). Jerry Larson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! Apache Date: 07 Feb 2000 22:44:47 -0500 >good example that exotica fans might be >familiar with is the Incredible Bongo Band.. their song Apache was used >long ago in the Grandmaster Flash tune Apache and the big crazy drum and >bongo beat has been used ever since in dozens of hip hop songs. Y'know, since this was mentioned the other day, I've been thinking: Wasn't it The Sugarhill Gang that did "Apache"? I finally bothered to check at All Music Guide, and yep, it was. http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=10:23:01|PM&p=amg&sql=A28298 At least that's the version I was hearing "in the day" (as DJJimmyBee would say). Uh Hunga Hunga Hunga! m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, February 6 Date: 07 Feb 2000 19:49:39 +0100 Marco \\Kallie\\ Kalnenek wrote: > Moritz R wrote: > > > > > Andreas Dorau & Moritz R: Der letzte Popsong "Poptics" > > > > > > Mo, what's this?? > > > > It's what it says: The last pop song of the 20th century. And we wrote it. > > Did you only do this one song together, or did you do a whole CD? > Just this song. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SLarry3595@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) more burnin CD questions Date: 07 Feb 2000 23:06:47 EST Since the stand alone cdrs are one shot only deals it is very easy to make a mistake. The point of the cdrw is you can mess around with it till you get it exactly right and then do a digital transfer to a regular cdr. Once you have done that you can erase the cdrw and start on your next project. That's the beauty of the dual stand alone Philips cd machine. It costs about $500 buck, but since it has a player and a recorder on it (and the player will play regular cds and cdrs and cdrws) you can sell your current cd player. Philips has vowed to make all of thier future cd machines also able to play cdrws, and claims that other companies are doing the same. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) more burnin CD questions Date: 07 Feb 2000 20:15:42 -0800 >Since the stand alone cdrs are one shot only deals it is very easy to make a >mistake. The point of the cdrw is you can mess around with it till you get >it exactly right and then do a digital transfer to a regular cdr. Once you >have done that you can erase the cdrw and start on your next project. I just don't use my CD-RW in this way...the downside of them is that they are a pain in the BUTT to erase, something I haven't heard mention here at all. You do not just "rerecord over them" like a cassette tape. You have to wait until they are erased by the laser which takes a lot longer. I have a CD-RW drive hooked up to my computer and each time I want to reuse a disc, I have to wait almost 15-20 minutes before it's completely erased "clean". Be advised also that the CD-RW discs for the home stereo component recorders are very expensive; anywhere from $7.00 to $20.00 *a piece*, depending on where you get them. They run about 4 bucks each for the computer driven CD-RW drives. Much easier on the nerves to use a $1.00 CD-R disc on your computer and even if it turns out not the way you like, throw it away and use a new one. At least you aren't spending 7-20 bucks on each one!! Do the mixing/whatever on your hard drive with your sound files before burning and then you don't have any waste whatsoever. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otto" Subject: (exotica) Il Giaguaro N 1 Out Now IN ENGLISH & ITALIAN Date: 07 Feb 2000 00:04:49 -0800 This is a fantastic new mag from Italy Italy currently has the most vibrant Lounge scene in the world "Il Giaguaro" leaps into the new Century with a glorious first issue, brilliant and full of appealing articles! "Il Giaguaro" has become bi-lingual, English and Italian, moving into an International habitat much more suitable for magazine of this nature. We are also announcing the beginning of a new series of articles dedicated to preserving and enhancing the "Cult" T.V. series of the the 60's & 70's. We will start the always witty and cunning duo of John Steed and Emma Peel in "The Avengers". There is also an exclusive interview with the ever popular Jazz musician, Amedeo Tommasi who will tell about his musical adventures with legend, Chet Baker! PLUS, Journalist Michael Pergolani s 1974 London interview talking with the unique artist, Francis Bacon. Movie Director Luigi Cozzi introduces a very young Dario Argento with an interview in 1970. Concrete Music: "A Trip into the Music of the Fixed Sound" , the birth of the Italian Fashion, and a bit of The Evergreen Porsche cars are just some of the fascinating articles in this issue. As a finale we conclude this issue of with a 7 vinyl release of the 1966 film, "Fume di Londre" (Smoke of London). The first movie of Italian comedian Alberto Sordi and music composed by the World famous, Piero Piccioni! An exclusive listening pleasure to the readers of "Il Giaguaro" are previously unreleased versions of "Mr: Dante Fontana" and "Richmond Bridge", featuring the chrous group, " I Cantori Moderni di Alessandro Alessandroni". We are sure that readers everywhere will devour this magazine to it s delicious end! And remember! This is the year of the Jaguar! Black Cat Records News The Psych Jazzy Beat of "I Marc 4" BCR 0101 DLP / CD rom out now The Marc 4 was responsible for having the greatest, most incredible Italian soundtrack style. This jazz-beat combo were known to play and record with some of the best known and most admired composers of this genre; from Ennio Morricone to Piero Umiliani. The Marc 4, for the most part, were the band who recorded 99% of Armando Travajoli's compositions. The Marc 4 recorded serveral albums as "I Marc 4" on their label "Nelson" from 1970-1976, in this unique compilation you can find their best recordings that captures their innovative sound; their diversity shines with styles ranging from Jimmy Smith to Italian Bossa-nova to experimental tunes with strange special effects. The unique sound of "I Marc 4" comes from omnipresent Hammond C3 of Antonello Vannucchi with the rhythm section of Roberto Podio on drums and Maurizio Majorana on bass, not to forget the real soul of the band, Carlo Pes on guitar. On this album you can catch the pure spirit of genius with these masterpieces from the Italian film music files. In 1971 the composer Romolo Frano was working on the soundtrack of a TV serial "Il Segno del Comando" (a real "cult" TV serial for today's B-movie lovers), he chose 5 tracks from the Marc 4 library music album on 'Nelson' records, two of the five tracks are in this compilation; Distortion Mind is a beat song with wild fuzz guitar and groovy bass and Key Board has a dreaming flute with the soft Hammond sounds of Mr. Vannucchi. These two tracks are not to be missed on this compilation, as is the case for the rest of the album. ITALIAN LOUNGE-BEAT PARTY BCR 0100 DLP / CD rom out now ITALIAN LOUNGE-BEAT PARTY is a compilation of Italian soundtracks from the mid 60's to the early 70's. In those years the Italian film music produced the best sound ever and had superior quality productions. Thanks to composers like Armando Trovajoli, Piero Piccioni, Alessandro Alessandroni, all selected in this compilation, the Italian film music found itself in living a second youth, in the scene of Lounge and Easy Listening music. More and more DJ's and bands are inspired by this rich discography to make their sound more creative and different from the rest. In this compilation ensemble by the 'never stopping' Claudio Fuiano (compiler and executive producer of a dozen lounge-beat compilations around the globe) and Al Casey (DJ and editor of the magazine "Il Giaguaro"), nobody will be disappointed. Previously unreleased tracks like Humanity and Il Giovane Normale by Armando Trovajoli, the first one is a real shaker and the second is a pop-beat track with singing in English. These tracks will take you straight to the 'Red Carpet' nightclub beneath the ruins of the magic city called ROMA. It's an album to listen, to dance and to dream to. Coming Soon "Fumo di Londra" OST music by Piero Piccioni CD and DLP "Sonorissima Vol.1 The Italian Library Music Party" Il Giaguaro & Black Cat Rec. Alessandro Casella Via Castruccio Castracane 3 00176 Roma, Italy Tel 0039-06-27800193 Fax 0039-06-272167 e-mail casey@mclink.it * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to majordomo@slick.org and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the subject). For web-based help, go to: http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) CDolly clone..... Date: 08 Feb 2000 20:45:51 +1100 >Since the stand alone cdrs are one shot only deals it is very easy to make a >mistake. The point of the cdrw is you can mess around with it till you get >it exactly right and then do a digital transfer to a regular cdr. Once you >have done that you can erase the cdrw and start on your next project. > >That's the beauty of the dual stand alone Philips cd machine. It costs about >$500 buck, but since it has a player and a recorder on it (and the player >will play regular cds and cdrs and cdrws) you can sell your current cd player. I do my burning on a stand-alone Philips, and I love it. HOWEVER, and this is a big however, if you burn a CD-RW to get it 'just right', then make a digital clone of it to another CD, that gives YOU a perfect copy, but if you want to make digital copies of THAT one, you're outta luck...copy-coding software in these audio-only things won't let you clone a clone. The only way you can then do it would be to sit there with it all the way through, manually forwarding the track numbers and setting the record levels like a tape-deck, and you lose the 'perfect digital' copy. Of course, with vinyl most of that is horseshit anyway, since the 0=silence thing doesn't apply. In fact, if I'm making a CD comp, and some of the source material is on CD, I will put it into the recorder via the analog inputs, so that my finished disc is the first digital copy. I can then spin clones for people whenever by setting it up and letting it go. Does this make any sense? I've never used a CD-RW on this machine, cheap date that I am, and am therefore consigned to screaming hoarse over the fifth screwed-up attempt to burn a good comp. I'm replete with party coasters though...they're always a hit. Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) ****MOOG ALERT****Announcing.... Date: 08 Feb 2000 23:07:23 +1100 > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3032896043_1029270_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Yes, kids and kidettes, The spanking new CD comp MOOG SOOP FOUR: MUCKDE FOOG has been set into laser history! Here's the track line-up of my latest fandango: 01 Beaver & Krause SLOW-MOTION (NEGATIVE AND POSITIVE GOING) from =B3The Nonesuch Guide to Electronic Music=B2 1968 02 Sounds Galactic SPINNING WHEEL arranged by John Keating; from =B3A= n Astromusical Odyssey=B2 London Phase 4 1971? 03 Peter Fink City Traffic from =B3Major Production Music # 6080=B2 Major Records/Thomas J. Valentino 1973 04 Hugo Montenegro QUADIMODO from =B3Love Theme from The Godfather=B2 = RCA Victor 1972 05 Beaver & Krause WHITE SOUND COMPOSITION 06 Electric Coconut CHIRPY CHIRPY CHEEP CHEEP from =B3POPCORN and Other Switched-On Smash Hits=B2 Axis / EMI 1973? 07 Fred Weinberg ODE TO BILLY JOE from =B3The Weinberg Method of Non-Synthetic Electronic Rock=B2 Anvil 1968? 08 Gershon Kingsley / Hanna Aroni HASHANA, HABA=B9AH demo-only 45 single Vanguard 1970? 09 Peter Fink AFRICAN TRAVELING MUSIC 10 Richard Hayman MAGIC CARPET RIDE 45 single from =B3CINEMAGIC SOUNDS=B2 Command 1968 11 Beaver & Krause TRANSIENT GENERATOR, AMPLITUDE, FREQUENCY AND TIMBRE MODULATING IN SLOW-MOTION 12 Hugo Montenegro Love Theme from The Godfather 13 The 18th Century Concepts LITTLE TOY SOLDIER from =B3In The 20th Century Bag=B2 Sidewalk 1968 14 Fred Miller Ravel =B3Pavanne=B2 from =B3The Sounds of Love ...A to Zz= z - Sensuously SINthesized=B2 Yorkshire 1972 15 The Zeet Band BEAVER BOOGIE from =B3Moogie Woogie=B2 Chess 1969 16 Claude Denjean KISS THIS from =B3Open Circuit=B2 London 1973 = 17 Beaver & Krause frequency modulation: periodic: VIBRATO (SPEED INCREASES AS PITCH RISES) 18 Jeff Haskell UNDER YOUR SPELL AGAIN from =B3Switched-On Buck=B2 Capitol 1970? 19 Peter Nero WINDMILLS OF YOUR MIND from =B3Hits from Hair to Hollywood=B2 Columbia 1969 20 Peter Fink LIVING HIGH 21 Hugo Montenegro Medley: if i were a rich man; fiddler on the roof = from =B3Mammy Blue=B2 RCA Victor 1971 22 Electric Coconut JEEPSTER 23 Claude Denjean alone again, naturally from =B3Open Circuit=B2 London 1973 24 Gershon Kingsley=B9s First Moog Quartet eleanor rigby from =B3Gershon Kingsley=B9s First Moog Quartet=B2 Audio Fidelity 1970 25 Beaver & Krause frequency modulation: Transient; up a third, back to pitch from =B3The Nonesuch Guide to Electronic Music=B2 1968 26 Peter Fink light industry rock 27 Dave Fredericks mockingbird hill from promotional 7=B2 33 1/3 RPM record =B3ARP: The Arp Family of Synthesizers=B2 1970? 28 Fred Weinberg MUCKDE FOOG 29 Peter Fink boston baby bounce 30 Beaver & Krause frequency modulation: Transient; down a third, bac= k to pitch 31 The 18th Century Concepts i got rhythm from =B3Off On A 20th Century Cycle=B2 Sidewalk 1969 A gurgling 72 minute lump of humming moogery to savor alone...or with a friend. Sorry if there's some typographical weirdness up there, if there is it's from the transfer from Quark into the mail program. Anyhow, it's an explosive one...and anyone on the list who would like it to grace their lives may have it for a slightly altered version of the deal I offered before. Here goes: for each Moog Soop you'd like, please send me = 3 CDR's...one for the dub, and two for me to keep. This is necessary for my sanity, I discovered, 'cause if the CDR mucks up in the recorder, I'm instantly out my 'profit'. Call it insurance, or whatever, there's the deal. I will also require enough postage to get it back from Australia to where you are...anyone interested, we'll work that out individually. Soon I'll post my other comps of similar genres and we'll have another roun= d of fun! Cheers, friends, Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** --MS_Mac_OE_3032896043_1029270_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable ****MOOG ALERT****Announcing.... Yes, kids and kidettes,

The spanking new CD comp  MOOG SOOP FOUR: MUCKDE FOOG has been set int= o laser history!  Here's the track line-up of my latest fandango:

01    Beaver & Krause    SLOW-MOTION (NEG= ATIVE AND POSITIVE GOING)   from =B3The Nonesuch Guide to Electronic= Music=B2  1968
02    Sounds Galactic    SPINNING WHEEL  = ; arranged by John Keating; from =B3An Astromusical Odyssey=B2   = London Phase 4  1971?
03    Peter Fink    City Traffic   = from =B3Major Production Music # 6080=B2  Major Records/Thomas J. Valentino=  1973
04    Hugo Montenegro    QUADIMODO  &nbs= p; from =B3Love Theme from The Godfather=B2   RCA Victor  19= 72
05    Beaver & Krause    WHITE SOUND COMP= OSITION
06    Electric Coconut    CHIRPY CHIRPY CHEEP= CHEEP    from =B3POPCORN and Other Switched-On Smash Hits=B2 &nb= sp; Axis / EMI  1973?
07    Fred Weinberg    ODE TO BILLY JOE  = ;  from =B3The Weinberg Method of Non-Synthetic Electronic Rock=B2 &nb= sp; Anvil  1968?
08    Gershon Kingsley / Hanna Aroni    HASHA= NA, HABA=B9AH    demo-only 45 single   Vanguard  = ;1970?
09    Peter Fink    AFRICAN TRAVELING MUSIC 10    Richard Hayman    MAGIC CARPET RIDE &nb= sp;  45 single from =B3CINEMAGIC SOUNDS=B2   Command  1= 968
11    Beaver & Krause    TRANSIENT GENERA= TOR, AMPLITUDE, FREQUENCY AND TIMBRE MODULATING IN SLOW-MOTION
12    Hugo Montenegro    Love Theme from The = Godfather
13    The 18th Century Concepts    LITTLE TOY= SOLDIER    from =B3In The 20th Century Bag=B2   Sidewa= lk  1968
14    Fred Miller    Ravel =B3Pavanne=B2  &n= bsp; from =B3The Sounds of Love ...A to Zzz - Sensuously SINthesized=B2 &nb= sp; Yorkshire  1972
15    The Zeet Band    BEAVER BOOGIE  &n= bsp; from =B3Moogie Woogie=B2   Chess  1969
16    Claude Denjean    KISS THIS   = ; from =B3Open Circuit=B2   London  1973    &= nbsp;
17    Beaver & Krause    frequency modula= tion: periodic: VIBRATO (SPEED INCREASES AS PITCH RISES)
18    Jeff Haskell    UNDER YOUR SPELL AGAIN =    from =B3Switched-On Buck=B2   Capitol  1970? 19    Peter Nero    WINDMILLS OF YOUR MIND &n= bsp;  from =B3Hits from Hair to Hollywood=B2   Columbia &nbs= p;1969
20    Peter Fink    LIVING HIGH
21    Hugo Montenegro    Medley: if i were a = rich man; fiddler on the roof    from =B3Mammy Blue=B2  &nbs= p;RCA Victor  1971
22    Electric Coconut    JEEPSTER
23    Claude Denjean    alone again, naturall= y    from =B3Open Circuit=B2   London  1973
24    Gershon Kingsley=B9s First Moog Quartet   &nbs= p;eleanor rigby    from =B3Gershon Kingsley=B9s First Moog Quarte= t=B2   Audio Fidelity  1970
25    Beaver & Krause    frequency modula= tion: Transient; up a third, back to pitch
 from =B3The Nonesuch Guide to Electronic Music=B2  1968
26    Peter Fink    light industry rock
27    Dave Fredericks    mockingbird hill &nb= sp; from promotional 7=B2 33 1/3 RPM record  =B3ARP: The Arp Family of= Synthesizers=B2  1970?
28    Fred Weinberg    MUCKDE FOOG  &nbs= p; 
29    Peter Fink    boston baby bounce
30    Beaver & Krause    frequency modula= tion: Transient; down a third, back to pitch
31    The 18th Century Concepts    i got rhyt= hm    from =B3Off On A 20th Century Cycle=B2   Sidewalk=  1969

A  gurgling 72 minute lump of humming moogery to savor alone...or with= a friend.

Sorry if there's some typographical weirdness up there, if there is it's fr= om the transfer from Quark into the mail program.

Anyhow, it's an explosive one...and anyone on the list who would like it to= grace their lives may have it for a slightly altered version of the deal I = offered before.  Here goes:  for each Moog Soop you'd like, please= send me 3 CDR's...one for the dub, and two for me to keep.  Thi= s is necessary for my sanity, I discovered, 'cause if the CDR mucks up in th= e recorder, I'm instantly out my 'profit'.  Call it insurance, or whate= ver, there's the deal.  I will also require enough postage to get it ba= ck from Australia to where you are...anyone interested, we'll work that out = individually.

Soon I'll post my other comps of similar genres and we'll have another roun= d of fun!

Cheers, friends,

Keith

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--MS_Mac_OE_3032896043_1029270_MIME_Part-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) SA Spree Date: 08 Feb 2000 12:13:58 -0000 I got this e-mail from my friend Christian from Argentina, he came over to the UK and was generally appalled by the high prices for vinyl, this sounds like it more than makes up for it... I've just come back from my holidays -January is holiday time here, hot summer. I was in the south of Africa -south Africa, Namibia, Lesotho. regarding music, its an incredible paradise for vinyl! i hunted great south African EZ -50s, 60s, 70s-, and incredible us and UK stuff for a bit more than coins... e.g., tom Jones circa 1964, 50 p; beach boys original releases, 70 p; Marianne Faithfull first album, 40 p; Francoise Hardy's French and English albums, 1 L; Duane Eddy's original 1958 release, 30 p. i got a Ann Margaret-al Hirt record, "the beauty and the beard", that I've always read about, but have never actually seen. carrying back the stuff was a torture -60 pounds of vinyl... Christian..... I'm envious to say the least El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Leeteg Black Velvet Painting at eBay Date: 08 Feb 2000 13:32:31 +0100 Otto wrote: > I think that is very reasonable > though I'm not so sure it was a Leeteg > for two reasons which are outlined in the new book > One - many artists painted black velvet nudes and signed them as Leeted to > sell to tourists (ie forgeries) and that signature doesn't match Leetegs > Two His later tourist works usually had a nameplate on them and if it is in > its original frame it should be marked with the Leeteg logo though it is > very possible that it was not sold via Leetegs agent Barney West and > therefore would not have either of these I have my doubts too. Somehow the style of this one was too "rural" for a Leeteg; but that's only my very personal impression... Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) these are the breaks Date: 08 Feb 2000 08:54:47 EST In a message dated 2/7/00 10:31:03 AM EST, cheryls@dsuper.net writes: << I'm still trying to figure out why a German or French import CD will cost much less here for the same CD than it does in Germany or France - often as little as half as much! Why are CD prices in Europe so exorbitant? Can anyone elighten me on this one? >> The reason is that record companies often sell their albums to exporters for a lower export price, the reason being is that these albums will be on a one-way sale (there will be no returns as they will be sold outside the country) and so there is a non-existent backend cost involved in the selling and marketing of albums exported. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) I love Australians,Mandingo and Quad Date: 08 Feb 2000 09:01:00 EST In a message dated 2/7/00 10:38:36 AM EST, Thinkmatic@aol.com writes: << Has anyone else seen CDs that mention the fact that they were remastered from quad originals and that the quad information in the recording is left intact? >> As the chances of running into someone who has a true quadraphonic system is the same as running into into an airline hijacker who has been struck by lightning, this is rarely done. What I find far more interesting and useable are the CDs that have been mastered for surround sound. There have been several classic Hollywood score CDs including a coupole of Mancini titles that have done this, and as it is far easier to find someone who has a home theatre style set-up the easier it is to truly experience this enchanced sound process. By the way, unlike quad Surrouind discs have the rear speakers utilized as a more spacial sound effect (the major volume source still being the front speakers) rather than my understanding with quad which was to fully surround with equal volume. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) Batik Date: 08 Feb 2000 14:17:18 -0000 I was listening to Wout Steenhuis version of the song 'Batik' last night, from his (70's?) LP beyond the reef. Really quite beautiful and a cut above everything else of his that I've heard. I wonder if anyone can tell me anything about the song. Thanks 3rd time back to the grandmaster and I'm bored with the breaks now. wikki wikki wikki El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) these are the breaks Date: 08 Feb 2000 15:21:20 +0100 LTepedino@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2/7/00 10:31:03 AM EST, cheryls@dsuper.net writes: > > << I'm still trying to figure out why a German or French import CD will > cost much less here for the same CD than it does in Germany or France - > often as little as half as much! Why are CD prices in Europe so > exorbitant? Can anyone elighten me on this one? >> > > The reason is that record companies often sell their albums to exporters for > a lower export price, the reason being is that these albums will be on a > one-way sale (there will be no returns as they will be sold outside the > country) and so there is a non-existent backend cost involved in the selling > and marketing of albums exported. > This is the first explanation of this phenomenon I have ever heard that makes sense. Thanks, Ashley Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) fwd: EDITORIAL: "A Musical Shakeout" Date: 08 Feb 2000 06:40:22 -0800 ******************************************************************** EDITORIAL: "A Musical Shakeout" by Sorcha Ni hEilidhe ******************************************************************** There were over one billion music downloads in 1999, "mp3" replaced "sex" as the most searched for query on the Internet and what was the Big Five record labels became the Big Four. The major labels have reacted badly to the birth of digital music in general and rather than embracing new channels and new models afforded by the Internet, they have behaved like petulant children and sued any companies suspected of being innovative in the market. In response to the Internet, the only ostensible strategy the majors seem to have employed is; bond together, create mega-companies and hope it will all go away. Polygram ran to Universal, Sony are running to BMG Entertainment EMI ran to Warner Bros. but free music on the Net didn't go away and neither did the inexorable demand for it. The proliferation of mobile devices and interactive TV means that free music is no longer just available to nerds and geeks but to over 250 million people worldwide and rising. Clearly this is threatening. The industry has traditionally been centred around products and clearly defined distribution channels, now it has to find new models to stay afloat. Where once music was a product, now it is content and new rules apply wherein brand and consistency become paramount. The Big Four are scared as hell for a good reason. The Internet fundamentally challenges their century-long hegemony of music. The artist can now liaise with the consumer independent of the record company. The consumer can now liaise with the artist independent of the record company. And then there's all those cheeky Net companies churning out new music formats, stealing their music and giving it away for free. Technology companies are getting in on it and everyone is ignoring the majors. Ericsson have even developed a prototype phone with an mp3 player attached to it. What's the world coming to? For the full story, go to: http://www.nua.ie/surveys/analysis/weekly_editorial.html ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul thomas" Subject: (exotica) Poetic Cockroach Date: 08 Feb 2000 06:55:38 -0800 I don't know the piece of music you are refering to but it is taken from Don Marquis' book of poems, Archy and Mahitabel. Archy is a cockroach and the reincarnation of the poet Villon. He hops from one key to the other on Marquis' typewriter late at night. Because he has no way of hitting the 'shift' key, it is all in lower case letters. Hope that helps somewhat! ~~Paul MailCity. Secure Email Anywhere, Anytime! http://www.mailcity.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Chaino/Kaino?....... Date: 08 Feb 2000 10:04:45 -0500 Picked up a "Bongo/Percussion" album featuring "Kaino." The album has that = "cut from colored paper" sixties graphic style of a pair of hands whacking = a bongo drum. This was on someone's "for sale" list just last week or so - the record's = pretty dull (dull arrangements with little but percussion in them), but I = was wondering if the name "Chaino" carried enough weight that someone = would try to mimic his output.......sort of like the Bruce "Li"'s etc. who = attempted to cash in on Bruce Lee's success in the movies. - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thinkmatic@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) I love Australians,Mandingo and Quad Date: 08 Feb 2000 10:42:33 EST In a message dated 02/08/2000 9:01:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, LTepedino@aol.com writes: << As the chances of running into someone who has a true quadraphonic system is the same as running into into an airline hijacker who has been struck by lightning, this is rarely done. What I find far more interesting and useable are the CDs that have been mastered for surround sound. >> I like the surround idea also. Finding folks with a quad decoder may be a rarity, but the decoders are dirty cheap when you find them, so it's certainly a novelty worth having. In the cases where the SQ Quad matrix has already been put on the masters, it seems like a nice element to preserve. I was just surprised when I saw a fairly recent release that the mastering engineers went out of their way to even address the anachronistic world of Quadraphonics. -Roy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits]Keith McReynolds,Lonesome Dave,Doug Henning Date: 08 Feb 2000 10:49:58 -0500 Keith McReynolds, bass player in Jim & Jesse's Virginia Boys, and son of Jesse McReynolds, died February 3rd from complications of MS. He was 44. http://www.jimandjesse.com/ http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=10:39:40|AM&p=amg&sql=A95366 --- Lonesome Dave Peverett, Foghat's lead singer, songwriter, and guitarist, passed away Monday morning, February 7, 2000 due to complications of his battle with cancer. Age 57 http://www.foghat.com/ http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=10:39:40|AM&p=amg&sql=B114070 --- ABC radio has reported the death of magician Doug Henning, of liver cancer. http://www.doughenning.com/splash.htm --- February 8, 2000 Doris Kenner-Jackson, 58, Singer In the Original Shirelles Foursome By ANN POWERS,NYTimes Doris Kenner-Jackson, a founding member of the Shirelles, one of the first and most emotionally affecting of pop's girl groups, died on Friday at a hospital in Sacramento, Calif. She was 58. Full obit at: http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/obit-d-jackson.html and http://elvispelvis.com/dorisjackson.htm ---- Big Pun(isher) http://elvispelvis.com/bigpunisher.htm ---- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Zach_Douglas@Dell.com Subject: (exotica) RE: Breakbeat! Apache.. Date: 08 Feb 2000 09:47:47 -0600 >good example that exotica fans might be >familiar with is the Incredible Bongo Band.. their song Apache was used >long ago in the Grandmaster Flash tune Apache and the big crazy drum and >bongo beat has been used ever since in dozens of hip hop songs. >Y'know, since this was mentioned the other day, I've been thinking: Wasn't >it The Sugarhill Gang that did "Apache"? I finally bothered to check at All >Music Guide, and yep, it was. That's right.. my bad. Hard to recall since the early GF+Furious 5 tracks were released on Sugar Hill Records and all the records looked the same! Plus I seem to remember more than 3 rappers on that track, but it's been a while since I've listened to it. Maybe I should dig in my own crates for a while. SPIN ON YOUR BACK NOW FREEEEZZZZZEEEEEEE # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlt4@mindspring.com Subject: Re: (exotica) fwd: EDITORIAL: Date: 08 Feb 2000 11:16:41 -0500 >The artist can now liaise with the consumer independent of the >record company. The consumer can now liaise with the artist >independent of the record company. And then there's all those cheeky Of course this has been true since at least the 1950s when some artists started running their own labels. The speed may be a bit quicker but the question is how many musicians want or are even capable of running their own labels. How many can promote their own recordings or even get the money to make them in the first place? And as music fans and historians know much better than most computer people, labels are more than just monetary clearing houses. Do you have any associations with names like Sun, Blue Note, Gannett, Homestead, SST, New Albion, Westbound, Commodore, Deutsch Grammophon, etc? Like so many techno-boosting articles/claims, the writers of this sort of editorial are not only historically ignorant but think it doesn't apply anyway. After all, film was going to destroy theatre, TV drive out movies (or TV news newspapers), radio meant nobody would buy records, videotape meant nobody will go out to the movies, etc. There are just too many factors for any prediction to be generally even worth hearing, otherwise we (in the US at least) would be watching Betamaxes on our PAL TVs and listening to DATs in our car. LT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) I love Australians,Mandingo and Quad Date: 08 Feb 2000 08:41:22 -0800 (PST) The 2 Mandingo reissues really rock out in a wild way. I'd love to hear a quad version. On Mardis Gras day, our carnival club, Mondo Kayo (pronounced k-eye- yo ) will play Mandingo cuts on an enormous sound sytem which actually sets off car alarms as we pass by. I can't wait to see what the 100 members think and watch the crowd as Mandingo beats with a doppler effect, pass them by.. For great Brazilian beats, try Le Guepe Vol 3. An amazing collection of French/Brazilian cuts, which I think Johan already mentioned. This is really one of the hottest releases of last year, along with Mandingo. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! Apache Date: 08 Feb 2000 12:02:42 -0500 At 10:44 PM -0500 2/7/00, m.ace wrote: >Y'know, since this was mentioned the other day, I've been thinking: Wasn't >it The Sugarhill Gang that did "Apache"? I finally bothered to check at All >Music Guide, and yep, it was. yup, it was. That was as abig a song in the early days of rap as Chic's "Good Times" was. The original version of Apache was done by The Champs, back in the early 60's (forgot which year) br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) OSTs Date: 08 Feb 2000 13:02:41 -0500 Any comments on these recent Original Soundtrack releases?: http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=12:47:33|PM&p=amg&sql=A461316 Bacharach/David's "Isn't She Great" ---- http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=12:47:33|PM&p=amg&sql=A460231 Air's "The Virgin Suicides" ---- http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=12:47:33|PM&p=amg&sql=A445883 Aimee Mann's "Magnolia" ---- http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=12:47:33|PM&p=amg&sql=A444949 REM's "Man on the Moon" [jest kiddin'!] -Lou lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) post-Prima TV Date: 08 Feb 2000 13:46:54 -0500 So did anyone catch the Louis Prima TV extravaganza Saturday night? Reactions? I thought the documentary was pretty good. They let the musical numbers play out at nearly full length, rather than severely truncated like a lot of latter-day documentaries. I didn't get much of a feel for what Louis was like "as a person," but from what was said, it seems that he kept that side of life private. Keely Smith really did have a unique stage persona. I found the movie, "Hey Boy! Hey Girl!" quaintly surreal, especially the last 20 minutes. A definite 50s sitcom feeling. Strange how everyone else in the act got to be themselves, but Keely had to be a character... Dorothy something. Also strange watching the evil senator from "The Manchurian Candidate" as the kindly parish priest. Of course that guy's been in a lot of movies... maybe "The President's Analyst" too. But I digress... m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: RE: (exotica) the poetic cockroach on a typewriter Date: 08 Feb 2000 19:42:31 +0100 yep, that's it: "Archy and mehitabel" by one Don Marquis. thanx, folks! Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) the slap fight continues Date: 08 Feb 2000 13:51:36 -0500 Tying in with Lou's earlier biz post, MP3.COM has now counter-sued the RIAA. Story here: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000208/wr/music_mp_1.html Text of the law suit here: http://mp3.com/news/570.html?hparticle0 m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: br@interport.net (B.R. Rolya) Subject: (exotica) Euro vs. US cd prices Date: 08 Feb 2000 14:25:13 -0500 (EST) >In a message dated 2/7/00 10:31:03 AM EST, cheryls@dsuper.net writes: ><< I'm still trying to figure out why a German or French import CD will > cost much less here for the same CD than it does in Germany or France - > often as little as half as much! Why are CD prices in Europe so > exorbitant? Can anyone elighten me on this one? >> and Ashley responded: >The reason is that record companies often sell their albums to exporters for >a lower export price, the reason being is that these albums will be on a >one-way sale (there will be no returns as they will be sold outside the >country) and so there is a non-existent backend cost involved in the selling >and marketing of albums exported. Actually alot of it has to to with taxes (VAT) that exist at all stages of cd production and sales and which are then passed on to the consumer in Europe. Also, record companies are required to pay mechanical royalties to the artists on all *manufactured* copies regardless of whether or not they've been sold whereas in the US, mechanical royalties are paid only on copies sold. Finally, distributors do a lot more promotion work in Europe and put a much higher mark up on cds that they sell to stores in order to compensate them for promo work done. All of this (and more) unfortunately adds up to incredibly high prices for a domestic release. - BR Triage 212-989-4545 800-966-3516 br@interport.net www.triagemusic.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! Apache Date: 08 Feb 2000 14:26:17 EST In a message dated 2/8/0 12:19:58 PM, bcleve@pop.tiac.net wrote: >The original version of Apache was done by The Champs, >back in the early 60's (forgot which year) I have the original Atco single by Jorgen Ingmann of Copenhagen in January,1961. Maybe he cashed in on the Innggaammaarr Johhaannssenn craze after he KO'd Floyd Patterson in a shocker of a late 50's U.S. heavyweight bout...Joel Whitburn doesn't list the song as a Champs record....JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! Apache Date: 08 Feb 2000 14:47:10 -0500 At 2:26 PM -0500 2/8/00, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: >>The original version of Apache was done by The Champs, >I have the original Atco single by Jorgen Ingmann of Copenhagen in >January,1961. >Joel Whitburn doesn't list the song as a Champs record.. I was wrong, it wasn't the Champs. The original was by The Shadows (with Cliff Richard on bongos), released in the UK in 1960, but the hit version in the US was by Jorgen Ingmann. from the booklet of "Shadows Are Go" (Scamp 9711-2, 1996) - "Our original was released 8 weeks before Jorgen Ingmann put his version out on Atco........I guess our label didn't promote the record....we all saw what happened - Ingmann's record went to the top of the US charts - and we were sick! (he) took our basic arrangement and added a few echo effects with the arrows" br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ark edgar" Subject: Re: (exotica) I love Australians,Mandingo and Quad Date: 08 Feb 2000 21:28:34 -0000 I have a very nice LEAK quad system which I use with my michell turntable and very, very old goldring quad cartridge, does anyone know if a quad cartridge is really necessary, or could i just use a modern stereo cartridge and get the same effect, It all sounds the same to me whatever i do. PS The Harry Roche Constellation on Quad is Very very good. Regards RE # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Quad Date: 08 Feb 2000 16:54:42 -0500 http://audiolab.usc.edu/ppt3/sld001.htm All y'all quad-heads might like to check out a slide-show on 3-D sound that has mystified me since I stumbled across it. (URL above) One of the interesting issues about re-issuing quad LPs isn't that the quad-mix/effect is preserved -- it's that the quad-mix is used at all! It turns out that most quad encoded releases differed from the stereo release by either having more sounds present, or by using entirely different backing tracks. In some cases, the quad and stereo mixes are completely different takes (shades of the mono/stereo EXOTICA lps). What with the clarity of CD digital, and the availability of SurroundSound encoding, it would be cool if more of the quad mixes were made available when LPs are reissued. -Lou lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "telstar" Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Mondo Bongos" Feb 9, 2000 Date: 08 Feb 2000 17:00:13 -0500 "Mondo Bongos" can be heard every Wednesday mornings at 9 on CFRU 93.3fm in Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Comments & questions welcome. Jess Franco - Manacoa Fire "The Manacoa Experience - a dazzling lesson in cinematic b-film jazz" Ken Nordine - Sepia "Colors" Ursula 1000 - Mambo 1000 "The Now Sound of Ursula 1000" Keith Mansfield - Teenage Villain "Dimenziones in Sound Vol 3" Mandrill - Lord of the Golden Baboon "Mandrill Is" Sadistic Mika Band - Suki, Suki, Suki "Black Ship" Hal Vincent - Heavy Spaceman "Dimenziones in Sound Vol 3" Ursula 1000 - Very Leggy "The Now Sound of Ursula 1000" Bob Crewe - Pygar's Persecution/The Black Queen's Beads "Barbarella ost" Les Maledictus Sound - Kriminal Theme "Les Maledictus Theme" Pierre Henry/Michel Colombier - Jeriko Jerk "Messe Pour Le Temps Present" Love Machine - Clockburst "Electronic Music to Blow Your Mind By" Amon Duul II - Yeti Talks to Yogi "Yeti" Les Maledictus Sound - Radio Pirat Program "Les Maledictus Sound" Until next time... Allan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Yost" Subject: (exotica) Red light special in aisle 12 (hula girl) Date: 08 Feb 2000 18:31:12 -0800 To U.S. folks interested in tiki culture / Hawaiiana: While in Target today, I made a never-done-before detour to the automotive section to check out the cig lighter power adapters. Anyway, for whatever reason, they are selling hula girl dolls, about 7 inches tall and nicely detailed, which I think are designed to be mounted on the dashboard of your car. I didn't look too long, but I got the impression that certain joints of the doll are articulated so that bumps in the road and vibrations cause the doll to gyrate. Nice grass skirt to boot. I think the price was just under $10, a must-have for these cold winter days to remind us of warmer climes. -- Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) post-Prima TV Date: 08 Feb 2000 20:17:55 -0800 At 01:46 PM 08-02-00 -0500, m. ace wrote: >So did anyone catch the Louis Prima TV extravaganza Saturday night? >I thought the documentary was pretty good. They let the musical numbers >play out at nearly full length, rather than severely truncated like a lot >of latter-day documentaries. I didn't get much of a feel for what Louis was >like "as a person," but from what was said, it seems that he kept that side >of life private. Keely Smith really did have a unique stage persona. As I said before, the director said he wanted to delve into some other areas, especially with an updated interview with Ms. Smith, but after working on the interview for a year just went with the material he already had. In general he said he wanted to keep the program lively and upbeat, so I can see how he didn't want to spend too much time on some of the racial and family issues that could have been focussed on. I forget whether it was in the biovid or the director said this afterward, but I remember it being said that the stage persona of Ms. Smith with Louis Prima was set up to make the antics even more impressive as sort of a contrast with Ms. Smith's near static disinterested performance. She was obviously not like that when the spotlight was on her. Sorry to say I did not get to see the movie on TV...no cable at the Caloz house these days. The biovid I saw at a theatre last month (as I previously talked about). Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: (exotica) Lyman's "Taboo" contains "Quiet Village"??? Date: 08 Feb 2000 21:37:36 -0800 Ok, this is one for the hardcore Lyman/Denny geeks (like me...) At 2:27 into Arthur Lyman's version of "Taboo" there is a point where all the instruments drop out and it is just some drums (this is the part prior to the flute). Maybe I am reading (listening?) too much into this, but it sure sounds like the beat of those drums matches the bass line of "Quiet Village". Can anyone else confirm or deny??? -Kevin Crossman -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: (exotica) New Exotica Website Unveiled... Date: 08 Feb 2000 22:26:07 -0800 Well, folks, the Exotica Archive is complete enough to finally be unveiled... http://www.kevdo.com/exotica/ Right now there is an essay on the Evolution of Exotica (by all means correct me on any inaccuracies), a profile of Arthur Lyman, and some photos of Waikiki (including the Shell Bar...). Will soon have more... Please check it out and let me know what you think... and if you have suggestions for topics to cover let me know as well. Mahalo! -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) New on the Space Age Pop page Date: 09 Feb 2000 07:16:51 New additions to the Space Age Pop website: --R.I.P. Si Zentner, 1917-2000 --New biography pages on Willie Bobo, Dave Pell, and Mike Simpson http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/whatsnew.htm Enjoy. Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) Dick Hyman MUST-HAVE Date: 10 Feb 2000 00:16:00 +1100 Surfing around and had to let you folks know that one of Dick Hyman's best best recordings is up on eBay, and probably won't get sledgehammered into the triple-digits by 14-year-old synth player bidders, so it looks like it could be a bargain. Unless of course, you all put bids in... It is a real kooky/moog-like organ (the Baldwin 'Fantomfingers') and he totally goes wiggy...best track is 'Fantomfingers', his 10 minute long (!) follow-up jam to 'The Minotaur.' Anyone on this list who won't dig this record...well, you're probably Ricky Martin fans. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=254219833 Of course, I ain't connected to this auction in any way...I'd never be friends with someone who'd sell that! Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! Apache Date: 09 Feb 2000 09:06:59 EST In a message dated 2/8/00 2:27:29 PM EST, DJJimmyBee@aol.com writes: << >The original version of Apache was done by The Champs, >back in the early 60's (forgot which year) I have the original Atco single by Jorgen Ingmann of Copenhagen in January,1961. Maybe he cashed in on the Innggaammaarr Johhaannssenn craze after he KO'd Floyd Patterson in a shocker of a late 50's U.S. heavyweight bout...Joel Whitburn doesn't list the song as a Champs record....JB >> Don't forget the amazing version of "Apache" by The Shadows! Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Record dealer query Date: 09 Feb 2000 08:30:22 -0600 Okay, it's a long shot but I'm curious if anyone here has ever had dealings with Sid's Rare Jazz in San Francisco. I'm about to drop a large chunk of change there and before I take the plunge I'd like to hear from anybody who's bought from them before. I've talked to him on the phone and he sounds like a stand up guy. Just interested in experiences anyone might have had with him before. Thanks for the space. Darrell Brogdon dbrogdon@ukans.edu The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Airports, airplanes, and the people who love them........ Date: 09 Feb 2000 10:21:21 -0500 Could everyone give a more vivid description of what type of music that = Sunahara guy plays? Sounds intruiging. And what's with this airplane worship? Eno who did Songs for Airports or = whatever it is, right? (which was recently re-done by a group called = "Banging on Cans" or something like that). - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! Apache Date: 09 Feb 2000 07:18:51 -0800 (PST) or Hot Butter, on the moog. Mouthwatering. > > > Don't forget the amazing version of "Apache" by The > Shadows! > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: (exotica) Yesterday's scores Date: 09 Feb 2000 10:18:00 -0500 Scored some fab records yesterday, to celebrate cashing a check for some work I did this fall. Sixth sense led me to Antone's Records, where I unearthed: Esquivel's Other Worlds, Other Sounds (mono), More of Other World Other Sounds in glorious full bodied stereo, and Strings Aflame, also hi-fi but Esquivel's genius gleams nonetheless. What's the point of OW,OS in mono? I had no Esquivel on vinyl, so this feels like I won the Nobel Prize for Peace and the Pillsbury Bakeoff at the same time. $15 a disk, too--no New York prices. Yma Sumac, Fuego del Ande, with Moises Vivanco and His Orchestra Tipica--not Xtabay, but still scratches that itch for South American folk song classics such as The Hot Rooster. And it's the Andean princess putting her pipes through the paces. The orchestra is wonderful. Les Baxter's Original Quiet Village, a compilation of cuts from Tamboo, Ritual of the Savage, Caribbean Moonlight, Ports of Pleasure, Jewels of the Sea. Music for romancing, just in time for Valentine's Day. Come hither, my darling husband. Shangri-La, THE Robert Maxwell LP to have, methinks. Whadda catalog: Poinciana, That Old Black Magic, Nature Boy, The Breeze and I, The Old Devil Moon, Magic in the Moonlight and Strange Music. One of those rare records with nary a bad cut in it. What arrangements! Except for worn grooves on Strings Aflame, these records are all near mint with clean sleeves and the original inner sleeves. Yeah, dropped a bundle, but anything to feed the collection. New light sparkles at Rancho Deluxe. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PnchDrnk@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Bob MOOG remembers RS ! Date: 09 Feb 2000 09:06:15 EST Robert Moog's memories of Raymond Scott (in Moog's own words): http://raymondscott.com/moog.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Breakbeat! Apache Date: 09 Feb 2000 08:04:55 -0800 (PST) You know Br Cleve, its funny you should mention "Good Times" and big rap early songs in the same sentence. As I'm sure you know, Good Times was sampled completely (instrumentally) on one of the biggest hit and first rap songs, "Rapper's Delight" also on Sugarhill Records and again by the Sugar Hill Gang. I was told once that this was the first big rap song. I caught Grand Master Flash and the Furious Five live in 1983 at the state fair. My friends and I were the only people that knew all the words. Rap was still new music back then down here, now I understand New Orleans is one of the leaders in rap music. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck > --- "Br. Cleve" wrote: yup, it was. That was as abig a song in the early days of rap as Chic's > "Good Times" was. The original version of Apache was done by The Champs, back in the early 60's (forgot which year) > > > > br cleve __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Dick Hyman MUST-HAVE Date: 09 Feb 2000 08:42:15 -0800 >Anyone on this list who won't dig this >record...well, you're probably Ricky Martin fans. Whoa! I was with you there, until you went and made THAT statement. I can assure you that my not liking Dick Hyman's organ stylings doesn't mean that as a result, I am a fan of ANY pop diva or divo!!! All musicians aren't created equal--on any instrument. Where organ and piano keyboardists are concerned, there are those with a light touch and those with heavy hands; if we like/prefer one style of playing, it stands to reason that we won't like the opposite! Not all of us like the stress of auction buying, either. Have fun in the bidding wars.... Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ponak, David" Subject: (exotica) The Liquid Room 1/22/00 Date: 09 Feb 2000 10:05:11 -0800 The Liquid Room airs every Saturday Morning (Friday night) from 3-6 on 90.7 FM KPFK. (98.7 in Santa Barbara County). Also check out my show The Nice Age at http://www.spikeradio.com. The time has changed. I'm now on Sunday afternoons from 3-6 PM, PST. I'm a little late with this email, and for good reason. I was in Vegas checking out the man....Wayne Newton! What a show. He made his entrance via space ship (watch out P-Funk!) and closed with "MacArthur Park," complete with real rain. It hardly mattered that then man can barely sing these days, he's still a consumate entertainer. The Liquid Room-1/22/99: 1.The Committee-California My Way Happy Together-The Best Of White Whale Records (Varese Sarabande) 2.Betty Boo-I'm On My Way Grrr It's Betty Boo (WB) 3.The Free Design-2002 A Hit Song Kites Are Fun: The Best Of The Free Design (Varese Sarabande) 4.Luke Vibert/BJ Cole-Swing Lite Alright Stop The Panic (Astralwerks) 5.Wiseguys-Ooh La La The Antidote (Ideal) 6.Mitsuko Hirota-Nagisa No Tensha 60's Cutie Pop Collection-Psychedelic Town Edit (Nippon Columbia-Japan) 7.Eels-A Daisy Through Concrete Daisies Of THe Galaxy (Dreamworks) 8.The Association-Pandora's Golden Heebie Jeebies 9.DJ Me DJ You-Rainbows & Robots Rainbows & Robots 10.Barry White-Find The Man Bros. Together Brothers Soundtrack (Mercury) 11.Takako Minekawa-Tiger Fun9 (Emperor Norton) 12.Arling & Cameron-Hashi Music For Imaginary Films (Emperor Norton) 13.The Free Design-Bubbles Kites Are Fun: The Best Of The Free Design (Varese Sarabande) 14.Groove Armada-At The River Vertigo (Jive) 15.Dots & Borders-Another Mellow Winter Tokyo Tapes (Trattoria-Japan) 16.David Axelrod-The Sign An Axelrod Anthology 1968-1970 (Stateside-UK) 17.Harpers Bizarre-The Debutates Ball Feelin' Groovy The Best Of Harpers Bizarre (WB) 18.April March-Magic Ass Dan Le Yeaux D' April March (Tricatel-France) 19.Eels-Wooden Nickels Daisies Of The Galaxy (Dreamworks) 20.Paul Weller-Wildwood (Sheared Wood Mix) Boys Soundtrack (A&M) 21.Cubismo Grafico-Area Code 706 Sound For Escape Presents Whonmodell 1999 (Escalator-Japan) 22.Bill Nelson-Another Day Another Ray Of Hope Chimera (Cocteau-UK) 23.Luke Vibert/BJ Cole-Fly Hawaii Stop The Panic (Astralwerks) 24.The Free Design-Now Is The Time Kites Are Fun: The Best Of The Free Design (Varese Sarabande) 25.Arling & Cameron-1999 Spaceclub Music For Imaginary Films (Emperor Norton) 26.Takako Minekawa-Plash Fun9 (Emperor Norton) 27.Cibo Matto-About A Girl Moodchild Pro CD (WB) 28.Pizzicato Five-Wild Strawberries Pizzicato Five (*********) 29.Singers Unlimited-Angel Eyes Sentimental Journey (MPS) 30.Wayne Newton-Medley The Best Of Wayne Newton Live (Chelsea) 31.Flaming Lips-Riding To Work In The Year 2025 (Your Invisible Now) (Stereo Remix) Waiting For A Superman CD Maxi Single (WB) 32.Lee Hazlewood (w/Nina Lizell)-Leather & Lace Cowboy In Sweden (SLR) 33.The Bob Crewe Generation-Menage A Trois (12" Disco Mix) 12" single (Elektra) 34.Puffy-Kore Ga Watashi No Ikiru Michi (The Readymade Darlin' Of Discoteque Mix) PRMX (Sony-Japan) 35.Mike Flowers Meets Orbital-Chime (Krisp Double U Mix) 12" (Polygram?) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Lunch Finds.... Date: 09 Feb 2000 13:07:09 -0500 Just stepped out at lunch and found the following: Beach Boys' Christmas Album=20 "The Now Generation" - Took a chance on this one. The cover photo shows a = group of 8 groovy guys and dolls (most in shades) standing on a *landing = strip* at an *airport* lookin' all cool as they pose behind the fin of an = *airplane.* There's that AIRPORT imagery again!!!! Anybody heard this? = It's got four instros that I'm hopeful for........ "In Case You Haven't Heard......Don Jenkins" - This guy's an organ player, = and I wouldn't have bothered with this one, except for the fact that it = has a version of "Mah nah Mah nah!" Probably stinks. Anybody wanna tell me how bad these two LP's are now before I go home and = try 'em out? - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: exorbitant CD prices in Europe (was: these are the breaks) Date: 09 Feb 2000 17:02:10 +0100 cheryl wrote: >I'm still trying to figure out why a German or French import CD will >cost much less here for the same CD than it does in Germany or France - >often as little as half as much! Why are CD prices in Europe so >exorbitant? Can anyone elighten me on this one? yeah, i wonder too! take those Spanish RCA living stereo reissues: some of those cost mor here in belgium than at dusty groove! i said: SOME, that's right: some cd's they cost 10 EURO, and others as much as 17 EURO (at the same store). Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: recent mancini RCA/BMG Spain reissues Date: 09 Feb 2000 15:43:11 +0100 bj wrote: >If you like "Our Man In Hollywood", you would probably also like >"Combo!", "Uniquely Mancini", "Mancini '67", "The Blues and The Beat" and >other ones like this that feature his big band sound and excellent >arrangements. yep, you're right, i do like those you mention a lot, better than "Our Man In Hollywood" actually. my favorite of them all is "The Blues and The Beat", which i would rate as excellent, the other 3 you mentioned as very good. Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: more burnin CD questions Date: 09 Feb 2000 16:59:54 +0100 At 21:16 -0700 2000/02/07, Nat Kone wrote: >Or to say it another way, somebody told me that those more expensive CDR's, >on which you can make mistakes and re-record, are only playable on one of >those re-recordable machines. we're talking CD-RW's here. the answer is yes and no. CURRENTLY, you can only play CD-RW's on the audio cd-recorders, but in theory, NEW CD players should be able to read them too. a test by MacWorld about a year ago found that - at that time - there were no new compatible players yet SLarry3595 wrote: > The point of the cdrw is you can mess around with it till you get >it exactly right don't know what your idea of "mess around" is, but you can only erase the LAST track, not just any track. you can't MOVE any track, you can't change track points, etc. i say: go for minidisk! it's the greatest recording device ever invented! Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Lunch Finds.... Date: 09 Feb 2000 10:22:35 -0800 >Just stepped out at lunch and found the following: > >Beach Boys' Christmas Album There are at least two Beach Boy Christmas Albums around; their original one from the early 60s (which is the one I presume you are talking about) that has the photo of most of them dressed in blue sweaters on the front cover, decorating a Xmas tree. This has some nice arrangements on it. I'm not familiar with and don't own their newer one, so I can't comment on that... Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obit] Don Ralke Date: 09 Feb 2000 13:33:46 -0500 From today's Variety -- Don Ralke Don Ralke, composer-arranger for TV shows and films including "77 Sunset Strip," "Happy Days" and "Laverne and Shirley," died Jan. 26 of natural causes in Santa Rosa. He was 80. A Michigan native, Ralke was a key innovator in pioneering production and arrangement work for the L.A. music scene. Gold Star Recording Studio founders Stan Ross and Dave Gold remembered Ralke as the most well-known unknown in the business. Ross told Daily Variety that everybody has at one time heard something arranged by Ralke, from the ubiquitous "77 Sunset Strip" TV theme song to the 1960s Jules Akins tune "Birds and the Bees," which he co-produced. A creative musical force throughout the 1950s, '60s and '70s, Ralke arranged six gold records and many pop hits, including the Connie Stevens song "16 Reasons." Other notable credits in Ralke's catalog include the Edd "Kookie" Byrnes cult classic "Kookie - Lend Me Your Comb." He also co-produced and arranged for the Sunrays, scoring the singles "I Live for the Sun" and "Andrea." He is survived by his daughter Pam and three grandchildren. http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=1:17:52|PM&p=amg&sql=B11489 http://allmovie.com/cg/x.dll?UID=1:19:09|PM&p=avg&sql=B164073 http://209.63.231.35/.CAL/tr1.html#Ralke http://hubris.net/zolac/smooth/cv3298.html Among his Recordings are: Bourbon Street Beat, Warner Brothers WBS-1321 Gershwin with Bongos, Warner Brothers WBS-1360 The Savage and the Sensuous Bongos, Warner Brothers WBS-1398 The Transformed Man, William Shatner (arranged/produced) Decca DLP-75043 Ringo, Lorne Greene (arranged/produced) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: RE: (exotica) [obit] Don Ralke Date: 09 Feb 2000 13:49:48 -0500 ...AND "Jennie Lee" by Jan and Dean! I was musing about the ever-present Ralke during a record run, when I found this and Andrea by the Sunrays on the same day. What a chameleon. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) New Age Exotica.... Date: 09 Feb 2000 13:51:28 -0500 Check out the CD "Bora Bora" by Iasos for some new age exotica - complete = with bird calls!! (And a tiki cover......) http://www.broadcast.com/jukebox/albums/b/borabora2000_440.html - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) New Age Exotica.... Date: 09 Feb 2000 13:52:29 -0500 Check out the CD "Bora Bora" by Iasos for some new age exotica - complete = with bird calls!! (And a tiki cover......) Not that I'm saying it's any good...........pretty cheesy with the = keyboard...... http://www.broadcast.com/jukebox/albums/b/borabora2000_440.html - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: (exotica) DVD player that plays MP3s on CD-Rs.... Date: 09 Feb 2000 11:09:51 -0800 Just got this in a CNET email: Raite AVPhile 715: Double-Duty DVD For a DVD player, $200 is not a bad price. Furthermore, the Raite AVPhile 715 also plays CDs full of MP3 music; if you're into burning your MP3s to CD to store them, this DVD player will make your money go a long way. Find out more in our hands-on review: http://1.digital.cnet.com/cgi-bin1/flo?x=dmKYgBYBhwYYBuuB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Lunch Finds.... Date: 09 Feb 2000 10:44:35 -0800 (PST) Week's Lunch Finds: Heintje: Weinachten mit Spikes Jones: (Xmas LP) Simon & Garfunkel on Pickwick (aka "Tom & Jerry": Rockabilly - saw this on E-Bay about a week ago... went for $6). The Clay Pitts Orchestra w/ Arlene Tiger: Female Animal ST (Grrrrrrrrr...) Some of this, etc., on tapes due some of you has gone out. You know who you are (mea culpa, yeah) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) New Age Exotica.... Date: 09 Feb 2000 11:58:36 PST >Check out the CD "Bora Bora" by Iasos for some new age exotica - complete >with bird calls!! > >(And a tiki cover......) > >Not that I'm saying it's any good...........pretty cheesy with the >keyboard...... > >http://www.broadcast.com/jukebox/albums/b/borabora2000_440.html Cheesy is right. Dig that funky pseudo-tropica rhythm. MAN! I have a few Iasos records from the 70s and 80s that I have found in discard bins. Good for sampling thats about it. Cheesy whooshy synth washes with bleeps and gurgles. This one, however is beyond me, talk about taking everything human out of music, WOW. Thanks for pointing it out though. Time to re-program. -jonny yuma ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Yesterday's scores Date: 09 Feb 2000 15:59:37 -0500 At 10:18 AM 2/9/00 -0500, mimi wrote: > >Scored some fab records yesterday, to celebrate cashing a check for some >work I did this fall. Sixth sense led me to Antone's Records, where I >unearthed: > >Esquivel's Other Worlds, Other Sounds (mono), More of Other World Other >Sounds in glorious full bodied stereo, and Strings Aflame, also hi-fi but >Esquivel's genius gleams nonetheless. What's the point of OW,OS in mono? I >had no Esquivel on vinyl, so this feels like I won the Nobel Prize for >Peace and the Pillsbury Bakeoff at the same time. $15 a disk, too--no New >York prices. A post about actual exotica record finds. How can I not respond? From zero to three Esquivels in one afternoon. Suddenly your collection seems a bit more complete. (I was more than satisfied with my own exotica collection till a couple of weeks ago when my friend at the used record store, showed me every Les Baxter record I'd ever heard of, in perfect shape, with beautiful covers, sitting in a pile of stuff someone had just brought in. But I forced myself not to ask "How much?") I know what you mean about the mono but as long as you don't hear the stereo versions, you should be happy. When I got some of my exotica classics, I didn't even know they'd come out in stereo too so I was pretty satisfied... till I heard the stereo. I know there are some genres - like 50's Blue Note jazz - where collectors prefer the mono versions but I'm not sure if that's a collecting thing or a sound thing. I think of exotica and sabp as made for stereo. As far as the price goes. It's not cheap and it's not a gouging price either. I would have expected a bit more gouging in a hip music-conscious spot like Austin. Then again, maybe the Esquivel thing has levelled out a bit. Maybe they think that everyone who really really wanted Esquivel on vinyl, has them by now. I find used-record store pricing mentality to be a fascinating topic. I get the feeling that easy listening, lounge and exotica have become not exactly part of the "general" mainstream, but part of the mainstream for those who frequent used record stores. It's no longer that people know three names and nothing else. It just becomes another section in the store like jazz or rock. So now, you have MORE records. And a whole bunch of records that you once could only get at a thrift store for fifty cents are now in the record store for five bucks. But on the other hand, the so-called rarity like Esquivel comes down to the price of any solid well-respected record - like an Impulse jazz for instance - and that price is about $15. >Yma Sumac, Fuego del Ande, with Moises Vivanco and His Orchestra >Tipica--not Xtabay, but still scratches that itch for South American folk >song classics such as The Hot Rooster. Yeah, I had this but sold it. I guess I don't love Yma that much. When she does a tune like "Bo Mambo" or "Goomba Boomba", that sound like music cannibals play before dinner, then I'm there. But when she plays "folkier" stuff, I can take a pass. >Shangri-La, THE Robert Maxwell LP to have, methinks. Whadda catalog: >Poinciana, That Old Black Magic, Nature Boy, The Breeze and I, The Old >Devil Moon, Magic in the Moonlight and Strange Music. One of those rare >records with nary a bad cut in it. What arrangements! I think every Robert Maxwell record is great in its own way. I just got one of his Command records, Anytime, and suddenly realize I have seven of his records, eight if you include the Fortune Tellers. But yeah, in the exotica sense, Shangrila is probably THE one to have. Add "Hi Fi Harp" and "Harp in Hi Fi" and you'd have most of it. > New light sparkles at Rancho Deluxe. Nice to see someone happy to find new music. Sometimes I think I'm a bit too focussed on just adding it to the pile. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Yesterday's scores Date: 09 Feb 2000 13:27:17 -0800 >I find used-record store pricing mentality to be a fascinating topic. What is being charged at used record stores is still by and large better than I hear what is going on over at Ebay for the same items.....!!!!!!!!! Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Louis Louis??? Date: 09 Feb 2000 16:53:28 -0500 Sort of a silly question, but when these questions pop into one's head, they don't go away... Did Louis Prima ever record a version of "Louie Louie"? As Mizz Fondle says, "inquiring minds want to know." m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ New Feature: "Product Placement" a gallery of old ads, packaging and ephemera (including a Fax Records ad) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Hall Subject: (exotica) RE: Dick Hyman MUST-HAVE Date: 09 Feb 2000 16:56:29 -0500 "Keith E. Lo Bue" > wrote: > Surfing around and had to let you folks know that one of Dick Hyman's best best >recordings is up on eBay, and probably won't get sledgehammered into the triple-digits >by 14-year-old synth player bidders, so it looks like it could be a bargain. Unless of >course, you all put bids in... >It is a real kooky/moog-like organ (the Baldwin 'Fantomfingers') and he totally goes >wiggy...best track is 'Fantomfingers', his 10 minute long (!) follow-up jam to 'The >Minotaur.' Anyone on this list who won't dig this record...well, you're probably Ricky >Martin fans. Picked this one up last year (8 bucks!) & I have to second you. All organ, but much closer to the Moog LPs than his Lowery work, esp on the aforementioned title track. Occasionally a bit of a novelty - the 'Fantomfingers' thing seems to be an early device to gliss between notes, exaggerating his technical ability to an almost absurd level - but balanced with warmth, humor & nutty hi-jinx. ------------------------------ LTepedino@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 2/8/00 2:27:29 PM EST, DJJimmyBee@aol.com writes: ><< >The original version of Apache was done by The Champs, > >back in the early 60's (forgot which year) > >I have the original Atco single by Jorgen Ingmann of Copenhagen in >January,1961. Maybe he cashed in on the Innggaammaarr Johhaannssenn craze >after he KO'd Floyd Patterson in a shocker of a late 50's U.S. heavyweight >bout...Joel Whitburn doesn't list the song as a Champs record....JB >> > >Don't forget the amazing version of "Apache" by The Shadows! >Ashley> Have to admit, much as I love the Shadows original, I somehow prefer the Ventures cover (fr "Play Telstar and the Lonely Bull") - tho my favorite of the moment is from the Xaver Cugat LP "Plays Continental Hits," one of those Mercury gatefolds. Something about twangy guitar + mambo horns... ------------------------------ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Erik Hoel Subject: RE: (exotica) Yesterday's scores Date: 09 Feb 2000 13:55:12 -0800 BJ wrote: > >I find used-record store pricing mentality to be a fascinating topic. > > What is being charged at used record stores is still by and large better > than I hear what is going on over at Ebay for the same items.....!!!! This is generally true - however I found one vinyl store in San Bernardino that had a huge collection of cocktail/exotica/etc. all housed within a freight container that was parked/beached in back of the store. There must have easily been 20-25K albums within that container (4 rows of floor to ceiling shelves the length of the container 40'). The store focuses on jazz and soul; the other stuff was an afterthought. Nothing was priced in the container - when I walked up to the register with a stack of 20-30 albums, the owner said they were $12.99 a piece, unless he had to "look them up" (a cheesy and thinly veiled threat to raise the prices). EBay is cheaper for most of the albums I had selected. I left with one album. The tragedy is that it is all melting - that container must get hot as hell during the summer in San Bernardino (i.e., 105-110 during the summer). Erik -- Erik Hoel mailto:ehoel@esri.com Environmental Systems Research Institute http://www.esri.com 380 New York Street 909-793-2853 (x1-1548) tel Redlands, CA 92373-8100 909-307-3067 fax # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) A 'Hi!' to record covers! Date: 09 Feb 2000 23:00:03 +0100 Nathan Miner wrote: > Just stepped out at lunch and found the following: > > Beach Boys' Christmas Album phat! > "The Now Generation" - Took a chance on this one. The cover photo shows a group of 8 groovy guys and dolls (most in shades) standing on a *landing strip* at an *airport* lookin' all cool as they pose behind the fin of an *airplane.* There's that AIRPORT imagery again!!!! Generation records... another class of its own... the flower generation... generation x... my generation... the blank generation... the tiki generation... there's so much in record covers that makes you being attracted. the whole world actually. no wonder this hobby 'record collecting' has no limits. it's endless! ...time goes by.... eye-catcher records, ear-catcher records, eye-catcher record covers, ear-catcher record covers. And so on. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Louis Louis??? Date: 09 Feb 2000 17:01:08 -0500 "m.ace" wrote: > Sort of a silly question, but when these questions pop into one's head, they don't go away... Did Louis Prima ever record a version of "Louie Louie"? ----- Seems fitting that I point you toward: http://www.louielouie.net/ Prima doesn't show up on this Almost Complete Louie Louie Discography: http://www.louielouie.net/lou_gfx/Louie_disco_99_11.pdf -Louie Lou lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) New Age Exotica.... Date: 09 Feb 2000 23:06:49 +0100 jonathan richardson wrote: > >Check out the CD "Bora Bora" by Iasos for some new age exotica - complete > >with bird calls!! > > > >(And a tiki cover......) > > > >Not that I'm saying it's any good...........pretty cheesy with the > >keyboard...... > > > >http://www.broadcast.com/jukebox/albums/b/borabora2000_440.html > > Cheesy is right. Dig that funky pseudo-tropica rhythm. MAN! I have a few > Iasos records from the 70s and 80s that I have found in discard bins. Good > for sampling thats about it. Cheesy whooshy synth washes with bleeps and > gurgles. This one, however is beyond me, talk about taking everything human > out of music, WOW. Thanks for pointing it out though. Time to re-program. > > > -jonny yuma When the bad get good, the good get bad. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Yesterday's scores Date: 09 Feb 2000 23:11:11 +0100 Mimi Mayer wrote: > Scored some fab... > > Esquivel's Other Worlds, Other Sounds (mono), More of Other World Other > Sounds in glorious full bodied stereo, and Strings Aflame > Yma Sumac, Fuego del Ande > > Les Baxter's Original Quiet Village > > Shangri-La, THE Robert Maxwell LP > Boom! Zang! Baroom! Precious pearls, my dear, precious pearls! Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: (exotica) Which Martin Denny LPs to get? Date: 09 Feb 2000 14:17:23 -0800 Since there's been talk of record store thrifting... I have all the Martin Denny U.S. material on CD (non-bootleg, that is). That means all his pre-1960 stuff along with a few selected cuts from later albums. Now is probably the time to investigate newer albums only available on LP (unless someone wishes to enlighten me...). Knowing that the quality of some of the later material varied (due to ghosting, style experimentation, etc.) I am not sure which albums to seek out on the auction sites, used record shops, etc. Especially since sound clips are unlikely... I actually have a cassette copy of Taste of Honey, which I find so-so at best. I'm interested in the quality of things like Latin Village ('arranged' (perhaps ghosted???) by Robert Drasnin) and Exotic Percussion which I guess to be more in line with the "classic" stuff from '57-'59. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Also, if someone has a million bucks or something, maybe you can use that money to convince Scamp to do more Denny reissues... (he says, hoping against hope) Thanks, Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Airports, airplanes, and the people who love Date: 09 Feb 2000 18:25:40 EST In a message dated 2/9/0 10:19:50 AM, nminer@jhmi.edu wrote: >Could everyone give a more vivid description of what type of music that >Sunahara >guy plays? Sounds intruiging. And what's with this airplane worship? I think he is taking In-flight Entertainment to the next phase # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Ugly Food That Stanks Date: 09 Feb 2000 18:34:46 EST In a message dated 2/9/0 11:30:49 AM, chuckmk@yahoo.com wrote: >"Rapper's Delight" also on Sugarhill Records and again by the Sugar >Hill Gang. I was told once that this was the first big rap song. Some say it is, but some back at the urban station I used to program dusties for say it was "Sylvia's Revenge" for Grandmaster Flash's refusal to sign up with Sugar Hill Records under her less than desirable terms. Legend has it that Sugar Hill Gang was a Flash wannabe crew that cobbled together a hit at the last minute because GM Flash was ready to go Indie rather than be enslaved by such an entrepreneur.. Sylvia Robinson was also in the process of buying up the Chess Records Archives and wanted to control a corner of the new music as well. When the song became the national anthem, Flash had second thoughts...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Jan and Who? Date: 09 Feb 2000 18:44:06 EST In a message dated 2/9/0 1:50:14 PM, hagar@mindspring.com wrote: >...AND "Jennie Lee" by Jan and Dean! Mr Nit-Pick back again to dispute an innocent assertion: "Jennie Lee" was recorded by Jan & Arnie along WITH Dean who was about to go into the service. The single lists Jam & Arnie (Ginsburg) but Whitburn says Dean was there.....JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Which Martin Denny LPs to get? Date: 10 Feb 2000 00:54:38 +0100 At least: Exotica 1, 2, 3 Quiet Village Primitiva Afro-Desia Hypnotique Forbidden Island Latin Village A Taste of India A Taste of Honey Another Taste of Honey The Enchanted Sea Sayonara Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) Which Martin Denny LPs to get? Date: 09 Feb 2000 16:32:51 PST >Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Also, if someone has a million >bucks or something, maybe you can use that money to convince Scamp to do >more Denny reissues... (he says, hoping against hope) > One of the better later "ghosted" Dennys , in my opinion, is Hawaii Goes a Go-Go. Not your classic Denny material, as a matter of fact, there is nothing martin Denny-like in the arrangements at all but there are nice little bouncy surfy go-go numbers of Girl from Ipanema, Call Me and a fun version of E Lei Ka Lei Lei (The Beach party Song) The record has this kind of beach party feeling, there is even crowd/party noises, folks clapping along with the beat and and chants of "yea" and "alright" in the background of most of the songs (unless im hearing things). maybe its live, I dont know. At any rate, I would recommend this one if you find it. I dont know if its one of his ghosted records or not, but its a good and fun listen nonetheless. The cover has a real cute Nancy Sinatra-ish looking woman on the cover. I also like Latin Village too. the Taste of Honey ones seem a little watered down for my taste. Then of course there is always Exotic Moog, but thats in a class all by itself. hope I helped you in your quest for the ultimate record. -jonny yuma ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bump Subject: Re: (exotica) Ugly Food That Stanks Date: 09 Feb 2000 18:59:06 -0500 yeah it was the first BIG one. but what was the FIRST one...? i say it was The Younger Generation (Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five) "We Rap More Mellow" on Brass records in 1979, of which i have one copy a disco dj i knew got rid of back in 1981 along with Grandmaster Flash's "Superappin'" on Enjoy Records. obviously he did not hear the future knocking. he threw out a trunkload of other great cheesy obscure disco tracks i would be able to find today. bump remembering my pre-dj days being a dj groupie in 79. later i think i did my first set with this guy at a suburban discotheque in 1981. my short set included Jah Wobble, Funkadelic, Telex, Devo, The Clash, and Duran Duran. i may even thrown in Donna Summer and Village People for "good measure". baby bobba well we're still friends bump >In a message dated 2/9/0 11:30:49 AM, chuckmk@yahoo.com wrote: > >>"Rapper's Delight" also on Sugarhill Records and again by the Sugar >>Hill Gang. I was told once that this was the first big rap song. > >Some say it is, but some back at the urban station I used to program dusties >for say it was "Sylvia's Revenge" for Grandmaster Flash's refusal to sign up >with Sugar Hill Records under her less than desirable terms. Legend has it >that Sugar Hill Gang was a Flash wannabe crew that cobbled together a hit at >the last minute because GM Flash was ready to go Indie rather than be >enslaved by such an entrepreneur.. Sylvia Robinson was also in the process of >buying up the Chess Records Archives and wanted to control a corner of the >new music as well. When the song became the national anthem, Flash had second >thoughts...JB ******************************** Bump Universal DJ Defective Records bumpy@megsinet.net http://www.defectiverecords.com "Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Yesterday's scores Date: 09 Feb 2000 21:31:40 EST << What is being charged at used record stores is still by and large better than I hear what is going on over at Ebay for the same items.....!!!!!!!!! >> Not so! What you have heard is not really the case at all. I have been a steady ebay buyer and seller for well over a year now and find it to be an indispensible resource in finding otherwise hard-to-find records cheap (cheap = under $10). The overwhelming majority of prices on ebay are established by the bidder themselves. Sure, there are some real suckers out there, paying $50 bucks for a vinyl reissue that you can get at Dusty's for $14.99. But don't fault the seller, who started the minimum bid at $9.99. But for every record that gets heavy bidding action and goes for big bucks, there are dozens and dozens of LP's that never receive a bid or are won by a single bidder who meets a very reasonable minimum. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Yesterday's scores Date: 09 Feb 2000 18:55:13 -0800 At 09:31 PM 09-02-00 EST, basichip wrote: >I have been a steady ebay buyer and seller for well over a year now and find >it to be an indispensible resource in finding otherwise hard-to-find records >cheap (cheap = under $10). me too. it is all about timing. if you are willing to wait, then you will find something that is affordable, although the postage can often be a problem...sometimes the postage is more than the winning bid because the seller doesn't have packing materials on hand and relies on priority mail for that purpose. All it takes is two ravenous bidders and the price goes much higher than it might be sitting in a used record store somewhere. If you can resist bidding, though, ebay is just simply a great way to become familiar with what is out there. There have been all sorts of records I had never seen until I saw them on ebay...and others I had never even knew existed. Some months I can never get away to check out the stores and instead am virtually chained to a computer at work. Going on ebay to see whats in the stacks is often my only "outlet." My preference, though, is get out and buy those records at 10, 25 and 50 cents each...rescuing them from the last step before the dump! Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Yesterday's scores Date: 09 Feb 2000 19:37:14 -0800 >At 09:31 PM 09-02-00 EST, basichip wrote: >>I have been a steady ebay buyer and seller for well over a year now and find >>it to be an indispensible resource in finding otherwise hard-to-find records >>cheap (cheap = under $10). > >me too. it is all about timing. if you are willing to wait, then you will >find something that is affordable, although the postage can often be a >problem...sometimes the postage is more than the winning bid because the >seller doesn't have packing materials on hand and relies on priority mail >for that purpose. > >All it takes is two ravenous bidders and the price goes much higher than it >might be sitting in a used record store somewhere. From where I sit, the fault is most definitely not always with the bidder/buyer. Remember that post on this list about the seller who, just a few weeks ago was selling the complete "Ultra Lounge" collection with a MINIMUM bid of $400.00????! That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. High minimum bids also contribute to what is becoming known as the scam of auctions. Yes, I know that people have gotten some very good buys at eBay and other places, but you have to be careful there as well; people who get all caught up in the bidding wars and after a while have outspent their budget for that item are all too common--as are sellers who set ridiculously high minimum bids. And I haven't even touched the subject of how these high prices that items are fetching affect the retail marketplace where we non-auction folk buy as well. A reasonable price can be on an LP one moment, next time you are in the store, the owner will say "oh, that costs more now because it got sold for 'such and such price' at auction!" Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Larson/Thomas" Subject: RE: (exotica) [obit] Don Ralke Date: 09 Feb 2000 19:52:58 -0800 Anybody out there willing to make a copy of this for me? > The Savage and the Sensuous Bongos, Warner Brothers WBS-1398 Let me know off the list. Thanks! Jerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ugly Food That Stanks Date: 09 Feb 2000 23:26:02 -0500 At 6:59 PM -0500 2/9/00, Bump wrote: >yeah it was the first BIG one. >but what was the FIRST one...? >i say it was The Younger Generation (Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five) >"We Rap More Mellow" on Brass records in 1979, of which i have one copy >a disco dj i knew got rid of back in 1981 along with Grandmaster Flash's >"Superappin'" on Enjoy Records. 'Rapper's Delight' was definitely the first rap hit; 'We Rap More Mellow' and 'Superappin' were released at almost the same time, but I think the Sugar Hill Gang wins by a length. Saw "We Rap More Mellow" selling in NYC recently for $100. Glad I never sold my copy. Jimmy B's story makes sense to me about Flash; he may have even had a contract with her, which was why '....Mellow' was released under the name The Younger Generation. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul thomas" Subject: (exotica) Louis Prima & Keely Smith ~ Vanity Fair Date: 09 Feb 2000 20:44:37 -0800 Did anyone happen to read the article on Louis Prima and Keely Smith in either the December or January issue of Vanity fair? It's well worth going to the library and checking out. There's some great photos of Louis, Keely Sam and the Witnesses in action! :) ~~ Paul MailCity. Secure Email Anywhere, Anytime! http://www.mailcity.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul thomas" Subject: (exotica) Gordon Jenkins Manhattan Tower Date: 09 Feb 2000 20:53:04 -0800 Does anyone know if Gordon Jenkins 'Manhattan Tower' is available on cd? ~~ Thanks! Paul MailCity. Secure Email Anywhere, Anytime! http://www.mailcity.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: (exotica) BackWard Playlist Feb. 9 2000 Date: 09 Feb 2000 20:56:50 GMT The BackWard can be heard on CFRU in Guelph, Canada, every Wednesday from 10 am to 11 am (or, as with today, from 10 am to 12 pm) Danger - Lalo Schifrin, from "Mission Impossible: Anthology" Ping Pong - Armando Travajoli, from "Seven Golden Men" OST Ode To An African Violet - Mort Garson, from "Plantasia" Hello/How Are You - PET Industries, from "Teach Your Parrot to Talk" Chef D'Oevre - Jon Appleton, from "Only In America" Lost Man (main title) - Quincy Jones, from "The Lost Man" OST Save Us - William Bell, from "Phases of Reality" Streets of Calcutta - Ananda Shankar, from "Thoth to Eros" Light Show - Fantastic Zoo, from "Psychedelic Experience Vol 1" Birth by Descent - Dave Grusin, from "Candy" OST Deviation st. - The Deviants, from "PTOOF!" Genese (exc) - Henk Baadings, from "Baadings/Raaljmakers" (on Limelight Records) Animal - Chrome, from "Red Exposure" This Fear of Gods - Simple Minds, from "Empires and Dance" The Coming of the One - Twink, from "Think Pink" Psychedelic Senate - Les Baxter, from "Wild in the Streets" OST War Sucks - Red Krayola, from "Parable of Arable Land" Free Your Mind, And Your Ass Will Follow - Funkadelic, from "Free Your Mind...." Herter's Crow Calling Record Part 1, from "Only in America" Love Without Sound - White Noise, from "White Noise" Impressions of African Winter - Clock DVA, from "Thirst" Real World - Pere Ubu, from "390 Degrees of Simulated Stereo" Korean song by a Korean woman from a Korean record Free From the City - Poppy Family, from "Which Way You Goin' Billy?" Half Forgotten Daydreams - John Cameron, from "Sound Gallery" Let's Stay Together - Claude Denjean, from "Open Circuit" The Wreck of the Old 97 - Hank Snow, from "The One & Only Hank Snow" Time is On Our Side - Soul Rebellion Orchestra, from "Dolemite" Easy Reader - The Electric Company, from "The Electric Company" La Ragazza Con la Pistola - Nino de Luca, from "Psycho Beat #3" Free Form in 6 - T. Swift and the Electric Bag, from "Are You Experiernced?" Spoon - Can, from "Ege Bamyasi" Fluid - Twink, from "Think Pink" I'm Just Here to Get My Baby Out Of Jail - Bill Dudley, from "Folsom Prison Blues". ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) Creed Taylor/Kenyon Hopkins: Setting the Record Straight Date: 10 Feb 2000 06:42:05 I wanted to pass on the following note to fans of "Shock!," "Panic!," and other Kenyon Hopkins/Creed Taylor albums: TO CORRECT JACK DIAMOND'S EMPHATIC AND INCORRECT INFORMATION REGARDING KENYON HOPKINS AND CREED TAYLOR.... KEN HOPKINS WAS A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE AND, OF COURSE A REMARKABLE MUSICIAN. AT THE TIME THESE RECORDINGS WERE MADE, KEN WAS UNDER AN EXCLUSIVE ARTIST CONTRACT TO CAPITOL RECORDS. SINCE, HE COULD NOT USE HIS NAME, HE SUGGESTED USING MINE. ALSO, "TAYLOR" WAS NOT THE MONEY BEHIND THESE RECORDINGS, MGM WAS.THE TITLES AND THE CONCEPTS FOR THESE PROJECTS WERE MINE.KEN HOPKINS WAS A SUPERB ARRANGER/COMPOSER. MY FUNCTION WAS THAT OF WRITER, DIRECTOR/PRODUCER OF THESE EPISODES OF "SOUND-PICTURES" WITHOUT THE VISUAL. YOURS TRULY, CREED TAYLOR # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Gingerich Subject: (exotica) Exotica Videoze Date: 10 Feb 2000 09:11:16 -0500 The recent discussion on Louis Prima (check out Disneys 'Jungle Book' by the way) leads me to ask: Can anyone suggest a source for exotica appearances in the moving picture medium? Do Denny, Esquival, Lyman, et. al. show up in films or concert videos? Or for that matter Walter Wanderley, Mantovani, The Three Suns? Has anyone compiled this info? Dedicated sites, database or mailing rings? Well stocked stores, compilation tapes, bootlegs? There was some exotica flicage awhile back at the Fez here in NYC (sponsored by Irwin Chusid) but I missed out...... thanx, pg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Arlene Tiger Date: 10 Feb 2000 06:54:12 -0800 (PST) I posted about The Female Animal Soundtrack yesterday (I don't believe it's the same as the "58 Heddy Lamar flick of the same title)... does anyone have any information on Arlene Tiger, the breathy chanteuse backed up by The Clay Pitts Orchestra? My searches have turned up nothing. She sounds like a rutting Astrud Gilberto. The music is basically sleazy Bossa Nova& the cover shots depict what seems to be a soft-core skin film. Any info appreciated. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Josh Renaud" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ugly Food That Stanks Date: 10 Feb 2000 09:56:31 -0500 | >"Rapper's Delight" also on Sugarhill Records and again by the Sugar | >Hill Gang. I was told once that this was the first big rap song. | | Some say it is, but some back at the urban station I used to program dusties | for say it was "Sylvia's Revenge" for Grandmaster Flash's refusal to sign up | with Sugar Hill Records under her less than desirable terms. Legend has it | that Sugar Hill Gang was a Flash wannabe crew that cobbled together a hit at | the last minute because GM Flash was ready to go Indie rather than be | enslaved by such an entrepreneur.. Sylvia Robinson was also in the process of | buying up the Chess Records Archives and wanted to control a corner of the | new music as well. When the song became the national anthem, Flash had second | thoughts...JB If "Rapper's Delight" is a "cobbled together" hit, so be it. I listen to that song daily. JOSH "Like the boogie to the boogie without the boogie bang" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits] Gus Johnson,Shobhana Samarth,David Alfred Boehm,Leo Smit Date: 10 Feb 2000 10:45:20 -0500 *Gus Johnson WESTMINSTER, Colo. (AP) -- Gus Johnson, the acclaimed drummer who kept the beat for jazz giants such as Count Basie and Duke Ellington, died Sunday. He was 86. Johnson played with the some of the most famous acts of the post-World War II era including Benny Goodman, Ella Fitzgerald, Lena Horne, Woody Herman, Jay McShann, Eddie ``Cleanhead'' Vinson, Stan Getz, Zoot Sims, Al Cohn and Ralph Sutton. Johnson's musical career didn't begin until 1935, when he joined the Jo Jones sextet in 1935. Johnson played with McShann's band from 1938 to 1943, when he entered the Army. After World War II, he joined Vinson and then Earl ``Fatha'' Hines. Johnson was a member of Basie's band from the late-1940s to the mid-1950s. ----- *Shobhana Samarth BOMBAY, India (AP) -- Shobhana Samarth, an Indian film actress of the 1940s, died Wednesday of cancer. She was 84. Samarth was considered the most beautiful actress of her time. Her portrayal of Sita, wife of the Hindu god Ram, in the 1943 film ``Ram Rajya'' won accolades and launched her career. Her family has become prominent in the Indian film industry. Samarth's two daughters, Nutan and Tanuja, also acted in films in 1960s and '70s. Her granddaughter, Kajol, was considered a top actress in the 1990s. ----- NEW YORK (AP) -- David Alfred Boehm, who brought the Guinness Book of World Records to the United States, died Sunday at the age of 86. Boehm published thousands of titles at Sterling Publishing Company, which he founded in 1949. But his road to fame began in 1956 when he discovered a pile of unsold books on the shelves of a Boston warehouse. Boehm traveled to London, and obtained the licensing rights to the Guinness Book of Superlatives by offering a percentage of future book sales. Soon after, the Guinness Book of World Records was born. The original book had been founded by the Guinness Brewery in 1951 to settle barroom arguments. Soon Sterling and Guinness were divvying up $1.7 million a year from sales of hundreds of thousands of books and from licensing the name to everything from museums to paper cups. Boehm's success was so dramatic that more people knew Guinness for the book than as a creamy Irish stout. After a series of legal fights in the 1980s, Guinness bought back the license for its name for $8 million in 1989. As record-keeper to the world, Boehm observed emerging trends. He explained that the Guinness Book of World Records dropped competitive goldfish consumption from its ranks when he noticed goldfish were getting smaller, making eating a record number of them less of an accomplishment. See also: http://nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/obit-d-boehm.html --- A paid obituary for composer and pianist Leo Smit (1921-2000) appeared in today's NY Times. A friend and collaborator of Aaron Copland, Smit recorded Copland's solo piano music (reissued recently on Sony). A partial list of his compositions can be found at http://ublib.buffalo.edu/libraries/units/music/spcoll/lsinv.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) fyi: The Electronic Music Connection Date: 10 Feb 2000 10:53:57 -0500 Listen to the show at: http://www.wbur.org/connection/archive/2000/02/0209b.shtml The Electronic Music Connection. February 9, 2000. The electronic music movement was born in the computer labs and universities of downtown New York City and Europe in the late 1940's. Back then, the only people who performed and grooved to its random electonic blips, bleeps and flutters were engineering and philosophy majors. Their instruments were tape machines, oscillators, dials and knobs. But over 50 years a quiet revolution has taken the music out of the labs and onto the streets. Rock bands like the Beatles, Genesis, and Led Zepplin were the first to borrow these sounds and take them out of the classical avant-garde scene. Today, DJ's, producers, and pop musicians have brought the experimental sound works of pioneers like John Cage and Pierre Schaffer into the techno, jungle, house and illbient clubs all over the world. Today's guests include, Tod Machover, Composer and Director of Hyperinstruments/Opera-of-the-Future Group, MIT Media Lab and Morton Subotnick, one of the world's premier composers of electronic music. Featured music on today's show: Silver Apples of the Moon by Morton Subotnick from the CD “Early Modulations:Vintage Volts” Etude aux Chemins de Fer by Pierre Schaeffer from the CD “Early Modulations: Vintage Volts” Kontakte by Karlheintz Stockhausen from the CD “Stockhausen 3 Elektronische Musik (1952-1960)” Edges by Sonic Youth (originally by Christian Wolff) from the CD “Goodbye to the 20th Century” A Day in the Life by the Beatles from the CD “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band” Meteorite by Todd Machover from his CD “Tod Machover: Excerpts from Recent Music (1990- 1999)” The Girl with the Sun in Her Head by Orbital from the CD “In Sides” Related Links • Tod Machover on technology and the future of new music. • Morton Subotnick's website for for online music creation and exploration. • 120 Years of Electronic Music. • Listen to what's happening now in electronic music. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Creed Taylor/Kenyon Hopkins: Setting the Record Straight Date: 10 Feb 2000 18:52:17 +0100 Brad Bigelow wrote: > I wanted to pass on the following note to fans of "Shock!," "Panic!," and > other Kenyon Hopkins/Creed Taylor albums: > > TO CORRECT JACK DIAMOND'S EMPHATIC AND INCORRECT INFORMATION > REGARDING KENYON HOPKINS AND CREED TAYLOR.... > KEN HOPKINS WAS A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE AND, OF COURSE A REMARKABLE MUSICIAN. > AT THE TIME THESE RECORDINGS WERE MADE, KEN WAS UNDER AN EXCLUSIVE ARTIST > CONTRACT TO CAPITOL RECORDS. SINCE, > HE COULD NOT USE HIS NAME, HE SUGGESTED USING MINE. ALSO, "TAYLOR" WAS NOT > THE MONEY BEHIND THESE RECORDINGS, MGM WAS.THE TITLES AND THE CONCEPTS FOR > THESE PROJECTS WERE MINE.KEN HOPKINS WAS A SUPERB ARRANGER/COMPOSER. MY > FUNCTION > WAS THAT OF WRITER, DIRECTOR/PRODUCER OF THESE EPISODES OF > "SOUND-PICTURES" WITHOUT THE VISUAL. > > YOURS TRULY, > > CREED TAYLOR > thank god I have not the slightest idea what this is all about... Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Swanson Subject: (exotica) Alan Tew Orchestra Date: 10 Feb 2000 09:59:41 -0800 Does anyone out there have an album by the Alan Tew Orchestra titled "This Is My Scene"? I've been trying to locate a copy for quite some time now. Oh, and along these same lines...does anyone out there have any recordings by the Charles Blackwell Orchestra? Thanks much, Scott (swandwn@agora.rdrop.com) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Good-Lookin' Food That Stanks Date: 10 Feb 2000 14:13:19 EST In a message dated 2/10/0 9:58:13 AM, you wrote: >If "Rapper's Delight" is a "cobbled together" hit, so be it I may have misspoken. The song was most likely a work of what Frank Zappa called "continuous continuity" developed in the killing fields of the local performance stage. It was probably a well-known jam in the Sugar Hill area where the gang performed (BTW, many black communities have a Sugar Hill section, one exists right here in the Roxbury section of Boston). When Flash, obviously a sturdier act, resisted Sylvia Robinson's arm-twist, she merely tapped into an already existing and locally known rap. I too love the rap, play it at every DJ gig I get regardless of where it is and who its for and it always gets people on the floor enjoying it. Just for good measure I mix it right out of Chic's "Good Times." You'd be surprised at how many people learn then and there that they are the same song! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Creed Taylor/Kenyon Hopkins: Setting the Record Date: 10 Feb 2000 14:17:06 EST >Brad Bigelow wrote: >> I wanted to pass on the following note to fans of "Shock!," "Panic!," and >> other Kenyon Hopkins/Creed Taylor albums: Would that also include the mighty mighty "Lonelyville: The Nervous Beat"? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Good-Lookin' Food That Stanks Date: 10 Feb 2000 12:57:45 -0800 (PST) Thanks to everyone for the insights on this great song. I saw it the other day for sale for 50 cents but passed on it since I already have a copy. One of my favorite rap songs ever was the Double Dutch Bus which I remember reading sold over 100,000 copies in NY alone. Any insights/info into this song are appreciated. Easy listening in the Big easy Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: Re: (exotica) Alan Tew Orchestra Date: 10 Feb 2000 22:31:36 GMT > Does anyone out there have an album by the Alan Tew Orchestra titled "This > Is My Scene"? I've been trying to locate a copy for quite some time now. > Yes, I have it (mono copy rather than stereo). What do you want to know? All I can recall right now is that it has versions of Spanish Flea and These Boots Are Made For Walking, and a really great cover of psychedelic Carnaby St. plus Mr. Tew sitting on a stepladder looking stern in his sinister shades and shiny shoes. > Oh, and along these same lines...does anyone out there have any recordings > by the Charles Blackwell Orchestra? > Probably you already know this, but there was a feature on Charles Blackwell in "Record Collector" some moons again. IIRC, there were only ever a couple of singles; an album, set to be called "Those Plucking Strings" was shamefully cancelled. Cheers Pete H. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr Subject: Re: (exotica) Which Martin Denny LPs to get? Date: 10 Feb 2000 17:48:53 -0500 Kevin wrote: >Now is probably the time to investigate newer albums only available on >LP (unless someone wishes to enlighten me...). Knowing that the quality >of some of the later material varied (due to ghosting, style >experimentation, etc.) I am not sure which albums to seek out on the >auction sites, used record shops, etc. One interesting one to look out for is 1982's _The Enchanted Isle_. Until someone tells me otherwise, I believe this is the real Martin Denny returning to the classic exotica style of his late-50s LPs. Nice album. cheers, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Videoze Date: 10 Feb 2000 16:46:24 -0800 > The recent discussion on Louis Prima (check out Disneys 'Jungle Book' >by the way) leads me to ask: Most definitely check out Disney's animated "The Jungle Book". Louie and Phil Harris' duet in the film is priceless and is one of the highlights of the film. > Can anyone suggest a source for exotica appearances in the moving >picture medium? > Do Denny, Esquival, Lyman, et. al. show up in films or concert videos? >Or for that matter Walter Wanderley, Mantovani, The Three Suns? I can tell you for sure that The Walter Wanderley Trio appeared both on The Tonight Show and on The Mike Douglas Show during the 60s. I don't have a month/yr. for The Mike Douglas appearance, but the one appearance on The Tonight Show was immediately following the summer of '66 when "Summer Samba" ruled the AM airwaves. I assume it was either a fall or early winter episode of the show. I have asked on television mailing lists for this particular episode of The Tonight Show, but no one had any copy of it or even knew it existed. I would give anything to see either of these appearances on video! Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Quad Date: 10 Feb 2000 17:07:08 -0800 >One of the interesting issues about re-issuing quad LPs isn't >that the quad-mix/effect is preserved -- it's that the quad-mix is >used at all! It turns out that most quad encoded releases differed >from the stereo release by either having more sounds present, or by >using entirely different backing tracks. In some cases, the quad and >stereo mixes are completely different takes (shades of the mono/stereo >EXOTICA lps). What with the clarity of CD digital, and the >availability of SurroundSound encoding, it would be cool if more of >the quad mixes were made available when LPs are reissued. I haven't experienced Quad CD reissues of Quad LPs at all...I know for sure that Henry Mancini's Quad LPs (among them being the very recently reissued "Brass, Ivory and Strings" w/Doc Severinsen) were released in regular 2-channel stereo on CD [even though they reproduced the LP covers faithfully and put the "QuadraDisc" logo on the CD cover!]. And Quad and Dolby Surround Sound are not exactly compatible since Dolby Surround Sound includes a Center channel which Quad does not have (or use) and also, the surround channel is mono (both speakers), whereas Dolby Digital has the stereo surround channel--which would make it much more compatible w/Quad. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Exotica Videoze Date: 10 Feb 2000 20:15:10 EST In a message dated 2/10/0 7:48:36 PM, bjbear71@mindspring.com wrote: >I can tell you for sure that The Walter Wanderley Trio appeared both on >The Tonight Show and on The Mike Douglas Show during the 60s. I don't >have a month/yr. for The Mike Douglas appearance, but the one appearance >on The Tonight Show was immediately following the summer of '66 when >"Summer Samba" ruled the AM airwaves. Mr. Nit-Pick backatcha. I love "Summer Samba". I have versions by WW, Howard Roberts, Ramsey Lewis, Combustible Edison and am waiting for a 12'; remix. But Summer Samba did not "rule" the airwaves. It gained a respectable position, reaching #26 on the U.S. pop charts and was a nine week hit. Pretty good for an unknown organist from Brazil whose style has captured hearts and minds thru the ages. But being a vet '66-er, in all honesty, the Beatles reigned supreme with "Paperback Writer" b/w "Rain" that year, especially summer... JB/geezerness has its privileges # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thinkmatic@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Yesterday's scores Date: 10 Feb 2000 20:38:17 EST In a message dated 02/09/2000 9:32:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, BasicHip@aol.com writes: << But for every record that gets heavy bidding action and goes for big bucks, there are dozens and dozens of LP's that never receive a bid or are won by a single bidder who meets a very reasonable minimum. >> I'm with Mr. Hip. I've gotten some great stuff in great condition for $3.00 a pop, and most of the folks I've bought from have at least a few other cool albums that they'll sell you without going through eBay. -Roy G. Biv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Exotica Videoze Date: 10 Feb 2000 17:50:57 -0800 >In a message dated 2/10/0 7:48:36 PM, bjbear71@mindspring.com wrote: > >>I can tell you for sure that The Walter Wanderley Trio appeared both on >>The Tonight Show and on The Mike Douglas Show during the 60s. I don't >>have a month/yr. for The Mike Douglas appearance, but the one appearance >>on The Tonight Show was immediately following the summer of '66 when >>"Summer Samba" ruled the AM airwaves. > >Mr. Nit-Pick backatcha. I love "Summer Samba". I have versions by WW, Howard >Roberts, Ramsey Lewis, Combustible Edison and am waiting for a 12'; remix. You haven't really heard "Summer Samba" until you've heard the Brazilian version that Walter recorded years before he hit the U.S. shores. It's a totally different arrangement, saxes have the melody, tempo is significantly "upped", and simply put--it sounds NOTHING like the one WW recorded in the U.S. Also significant is the arrangement of "Summer Samba" that WW recorded with Doris Monteiro (a well liked Brazilian singer) in the early 60s on one of her own albums in Brazil. And--WW never repeated himself. On "Brazil's Greatest Hits" (GNP/Crescendo), he offers yet another different arrangment of the tune and this time includes synthesizer. >But Summer Samba did not "rule" the airwaves. It gained a respectable >position, reaching #26 on the U.S. pop charts and was a nine week hit. Billboard chart positioning means very little to me when I remember how frequently it was played. In addition, please read the interview I did with Claudio Slon (Walter's drummer) on Page 6 of my WW site. He clearly states: "When the single "Summer Samba" was released, the radio stations started playing it solidly about 4 or 5 times EVERY HOUR!" If that ain't 'ruling the airwaves', I don't know what is... >Pretty >good for an unknown organist from Brazil whose style has captured hearts and >minds thru the ages. "Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they say..." to wit: Walter was NOT an unknwon organist. His recordings in the U.S. merely introduced him to a brand new audience. I can assure you that he was famous in Brazil for many years before he boarded that plane to come to the U.S. in '66. He was in his early thirties when he got to New York and had been a recording STAR in Brazil since the age of 18!!! Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography Added today: Interview with Bobby Rosengarden (Page 6) http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Videoze Date: 10 Feb 2000 21:04:32 -0500 > There was some exotica flicage awhile back at the Fez here in NYC >(sponsored by Irwin Chusid) but I missed out..... A Jay Schwartz / Secret Cinema screening to be precise. http://www.voicenet.com/~jschwart/ Mr. Nit-Pick II ecam@voicenet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Optigans? Date: 10 Feb 2000 22:13:38 -0500 Just curious - what is an optigan? Anyways, for all those interested (and able to pick up CBC FM on their radios), this weekend, Radio Sonic is running a show on it with former listmember Pea Hicks. Here's the blurb they sent me: On Sunday February 13, airing 6:30PM - 8:00PM, David Wisdom is pleased to present the creaky nostalgic sounds of the Optigan Lounge. What the hell is an Optigan? Well, tune in to find out. Producer James Booth does an interview with Optigan webmaster and member of the band Optiganally Yours, Pea Hicks. Hear music that contains the optigan from Blur, Sukia, The Wedding Present, Cibo Matto, Tom Waits, and many many more. cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jack" Subject: (exotica) Speaking of Summer Samba... Date: 10 Feb 2000 23:05:24 -0500 I have recently purchased the 1999 CD reissue of a long time favorite thrift L.P. discovery : Marcos Valle "Samba '68 " Verve 559-516 I Never thought that in a 1,000,000 years I would ... "The Answer" to the Samba is love. Jack from Cincinnati # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Optigans? Date: 10 Feb 2000 23:10:19 -0500 >Just curious - what is an optigan? Anyways, for all those interested >(and able to pick up CBC FM on their radios), this weekend, Radio Sonic >is running a show on it with former listmember Pea Hicks. See Pea's site: http://www.optigan.com/ Short version: similar principle as the Mellotron (which used tape loops of real instruments for each note), but cheaper and used film-sound type technology, with transparent plastic discs containing the sounds. Primitive sampling. I'm not explaining it very well. Just go to Pea's site. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Diamond Subject: (exotica) Kosinus Label Sale Date: 10 Feb 2000 18:10:28 -0800 Hello Folks, I am blowing out all KOSINUS label Import CD's KOSINUS is a Library/Production Music label and that is ALL they are. That is all they do, BUT they don't sell these CD's. These CD's are NOT for sale to regular folks like you and me. They are to be "sold" only in the form of licensing each track, like for $200.00 each, to be used from anything like music for commercials to selling Ice Cream, to car commercials, intermission music for ballet, whatever, etc etc etc All that great music you hear in commercials was licensed, bought and paid for. 1 track or maybe they only used half of the track or maybe a certain phrase or coda of the track. BUT BE CERTAIN, they paid BIG BUCKS for it and I do mean "it" CERTAINLY not an ENTIRE CD, CHOCK FULL AND OVERFLOWING (Over 74 Minutes, each CD) WITH INSTRUMENTAL MOOG GENIUS from the likes of Jean Jacques Perrey and a new phenomenon, tremendously influenced by JJP, by the name of Laurent Lombard. So, about 1 year 4 months ago, I received a CD from the label itself, KOSINUS and the CD was the Jean Jacques Perrey-"Good Moog" CD. 40 Tracks taken from 7 rekkids on the famed Montparnasse rekkid label out of France. (Whip out your Incredibly Strange Music Books and read about JJ's recorded history) Musics ONLY licensed to people in "the industry" and NEVER EVER AVAILABLE to the likes of anyone such as you or I. I'm repeating myself, I know:-) So, Kosinus sent this to me, I then e-mailed Kosinus for about 2 months, every god damn day for 2 months and NOTHING, until 1 day I receive an e-mail from a Distributor in France telling me that they represent Kosinus for Exporting their label into the US. OK, GREAT, NO PROBLEM, LET'S DO IT. So, I bought 100 of the "Good Moog" CD's and then when the "Laurent Lombard-Happyland" CD was released by Kosinus, the distributor mailed me a copy and I ordered 60 of those. WHY ? BECAUSE IT IS THE STUFF THAT DREAMS ARE MADE OF IF YOU LOVE WEIRD QUIRKY POP INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC JINGLES, FEATURING THE MOOG SYNTHESIZER. that's why. I have sold them all along, ever since I got them, for $20.00 and they have sold regularly. I sold out of the Laurent Lombard and ordered 40 more about 4 months ago. Tuesday, I receive a phone call from a lady from Los Angeles, CA, who works for a Library/Production Music Licensing company and she tells me that THEY are the WORLD WIDE EXCLUSIVE licensers of all Kosinus material and these CD's I have and are selling ARE NOT to be sold as "regular music CD's" AND SHE IS LIVID AND __OUT__OF__HER__FREAKIN'___MIND___! I told her the story I just told you. That Kosinus sent them to me and then contacted a distributor to sell them for Kosinus and it's not that I don't believe her, but I did buy them legally and NO, I will NOT stop selling them and NO, I will NOT tell her who my distributor is in France. These are my business associates and I owe THEM long before I owe here anything. BUT I said this in a MUCH nicer and professional way I know it's hard for some of you to believe this last statement, but regardless... That I will call my distributor in France and find out what is up with what and get back to her ASAP, which I did today She tells me that she is going to send me a court order to "Cease and Desist" me selling all KOSINUS PRODUCT. I said, OK:) SO, if YOU, yeah, I'm talkin' to you, didn't get either or both of these CD's before at $20.00 + shipping, they are now available for $16.00 + shipping. AND if I have ANY left when I get this court order, I will then send everything I have back to France and get my money back, which the distributor has already agreed to. I have some MP3 sound samples of each that will give you more than a better idea of the greatness of both of these CD's of Library music that puts ANY other collection of Library Musics available to the general public to shame. Listen for yourself at these 2 locations: jackdiamond.com/catalog_pages/happyland.html jackdiamond.com/catalog_pages/goodmoog.html $16.00 plus shipping. Stock up for Christmas NOW. It's sooner than you think! HA! Jean Jacques Perrey's music from the 1960's and 1970's, only available in France AND only available to Advertising Agencies/Ballet/Film/TV/Radio Production Companies for use as music for commercials... If you are a fan of Jean Jacques Perrey and even more so, the LP he did with Harry Brauer "The Happy Moog" on the Pickwick label, then this is what you have been praying and dreaming about. A 40 track collection, taken from 7 LP's released on the Montparnasse Record Label Jean Jacques Perrey: GOOD MOOG; Astral Animations & Komputer Kartoons. Harry Brauer, percussionist and arranger extroirdinare, accompanies Jean Jacques, along with Vinnie Bell on electric guitar and more electronics in general as demonstrated in his work on the soundtrack of "Barbarella" (Dynavoice) as well as his electric guitar work on the Dick Hyman/Mary Mayo masterpiece "Moon Gas" LP (MGM) and at least 5,000 other records (you can believe it). If you like/love that, then this Import CD is going to rock your world, in the nuttiest, silliest, joyous and most fantastique way you NEVER heard Jean Jacques Perrey. Laurent Lombard-"Happyland" CD 99 Tracks of music for commercials with Moog/Electric Guitar, Spanish Classical Guitars, Bass/Fender Bass, Punching Horn Sections and many wild and weird percussive instruments, Cowbell, Timbales, Conga Drums and Bongo's etc etc etc used by Laurent Lombard for these super tight arrangements and very special recordings, from France. Excellent remastering. This 74 minute long cd are commercial jingles, many danceable on the Moog and Ondioline (French Moog) with a wild and zany percusssive background. There are 99 tracks and one track contains an added treat, the Sitar. The first 33 tracks are the 2 minute plus commercial jingles and the next 66 are samples used in these jingles with some great little 10 second snippets of melodies. Both on the Kosinus label, from France, this is your last chance to get either or both of these CD's, as they will NOT be available EVER AGAIN, period. Thanks and keep rockin' Jack Jack Diamond Music jackdiamond.com Tune in Jack Diamond's "House of Games" every Saturday and Sunday morning, from 9AM-11AM (PST), 10AM-Noon (MT) and 11AM-1PM (ET) and then a repeat of the same shows on Tuesday and Thursday mornings, from Midnight - 2AM (PST), 1AM-3AM, (MT) and 3-5AM (ET) on Go Ga Ga Free Form Eclectic Internet Only Radio. gogaga.com I know you would dig it:) Since August 199 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) Which Martin Denny LPs to get? Date: 10 Feb 2000 20:51:37 -0800 Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr wrote: > > One interesting one to look out for is 1982's _The Enchanted Isle_. > > Until someone tells me otherwise, I believe this is the real Martin > Denny returning to the classic exotica style of his late-50s LPs. > Nice album. I saw this LP earlier today on Ebay and thought the '82 copyright was a typo.... I guess not. Thanks, Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Videoze Date: 11 Feb 2000 00:09:43 EST In a message dated 2/10/00 9:14:51 AM EST, peter.gingerich@wcom.com writes: << The recent discussion on Louis Prima (check out Disneys 'Jungle Book' by the way) leads me to ask: Can anyone suggest a source for exotica appearances in the moving picture medium? Do Denny, Esquival, Lyman, et. al. show up in films or concert videos? Or for that matter Walter Wanderley, Mantovani, The Three Suns? Has anyone compiled this info? Dedicated sites, database or mailing rings? Well stocked stores, compilation tapes, bootlegs? There was some exotica flicage awhile back at the Fez here in NYC (sponsored by Irwin Chusid) but I missed out... >> Martin Denny has one line, playing a nightclub piano player in the not very good 1959 film "Forbidden Island" which unfortunatley will pobably never make it to video. Denny also appeared on the Hawaii Calls TV program which I was lucky enough to get a tape of from someone on this list. Shot in the mid-'60s, this is not the classic line-up we are all used to from his seminal albums. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) tiki on a tooth Date: 11 Feb 2000 02:44:32 PST Look at this gruesome little fellow on a sperm whale tooth. http://auctions.yahoo.com/auction/12460699 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Exotica Mailing List FAQ Date: 11 Feb 2000 13:37:46 +0100 To all new list members: The basic "Frequently Asked Questions" of this list are answered here: #Exotica mailing list FAQ: http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Moritz.Reichelt/exofaq.html Contains pics, links to other important sites and more. Mo The Moritz R Museum has got a new entrance: http://moritzR.de "Reload", if you've been here before.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Good-Lookin' Food That Stanks Date: 10 Feb 2000 20:04:42 EST In a message dated 2/10/0 4:00:47 PM, chuckmk@yahoo.com wrote: >One of my favorite rap songs ever was the Double Dutch Bus which I remember >reading sold over 100,000 copies in NY alone. >Any insights/info into this song are appreciated. I don't know how exotic this all is, but the jam "Double Dutch Bus", done by a minor league Philly-International and later WMOT producer from the late 7T's/early 8T's, is based on the Double Dutch jumprope game popular among gyrrrls in Black neighborhoods, frequently on playgrounds, while the dudes play hoops. Double Dutch is played with two jumpropes, each going in opposite directions, with a gyrrrl on each end swinging both while one gyrrrl waits for the right moment to jump in. Those that can accomplish this for any respectable length of time (more that a minute or so) are often respected as having Skillz that pay Billz. I think Malcom McLaren made a record about this too...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Which Martin Denny LPs to get? Date: 11 Feb 2000 08:52:55 -0500 Speaking of Denny, I ran across his "Oriental Percussion" for $5 a couple = weeks ago. Is this a strictly "percussion" album or what...........? - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Which Martin Denny LPs to get? Date: 11 Feb 2000 08:55:29 EST In a message dated 2/11/00 8:51:26 AM EST, nminer@jhmi.edu writes: << Speaking of Denny, I ran across his "Oriental Percussion" for $5 a couple weeks ago. Is this a strictly "percussion" album or what...........? >> It is pretty much the same as his other albujms although there are no bird calls if i remember correctly. The percussion is just slightly more pronounced on some tracks, but otherwise it is typical Denny. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dymaxia@ripco.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Optigans? Date: 11 Feb 2000 10:04:18 -0600 "m.ace" wrote: > > >Just curious - what is an optigan? Anyways, for all those interested > >(and able to pick up CBC FM on their radios), this weekend, Radio Sonic > >is running a show on it with former listmember Pea Hicks. > > See Pea's site: > http://www.optigan.com/ > > Short version: similar principle as the Mellotron (which used tape loops of > real instruments for each note), but cheaper and used film-sound type > technology, with transparent plastic discs containing the sounds. Primitive > sampling. I'm not explaining it very well. Just go to Pea's site. > Optigans turn up on e-bay every so often, believe it or not. -- Kerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Airports, airplanes, and the people who love Date: 11 Feb 2000 11:05:33 -0500 At 10:21 AM -0500 2/9/00, Nathan Miner wrote: >And what's with this airplane worship? It relates to the golden age of the Jet Set, when air travel was a much more exclusive and luxurious way to get around, when the rich and the beautiful would escape to the beaches, the mountains, and to exotic capital cities. The design element - the logos, the travel bags, advertising posters, the various acoutrements - exemplifies the Modern look of that era (Scandanavian/Italian/American furniture, pop/op art, atomic futurism, etc) so popular with graphic artists today. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Completist collecting (was Yesterday's scores) Date: 11 Feb 2000 12:09:06 -0500 At 3:59 PM 2/9/0, Nat Kone wrote: >>From zero to three Esquivels in one afternoon. Suddenly your collection >seems a bit more complete. You got it. Still blissed out with the finds. >I know what you mean about the mono but as long as you don't hear the >stereo versions, you should be happy. When I got some of my exotica >classics, I didn't even know they'd come out in stereo too so I was pretty >satisfied... till I heard the stereo. ... I think of exotica and >sabp as made for stereo. Yeah, me too. That's why I wavered before picking up Other Worlds, Other Sounds. Now the record sits in the Rancho Deluxe stereo pit on display for all to admire, no regrets. And I still enjoy the arrangements. Plus I have most of the cuts on CD. Which brings up a question: Anyone know if the any disks on Stereo Action series (Capitol?) were ever released in hifi/mono versions? Now that seems bone stupid to me. Except maybe Movin' and Groovin', The Three Suns. If this music was recorded to exploit stereo action, then why have hi-fi versions...unless you dig the arrangements, which is why M&G makes my must-have list, or unless you're a completist, which I'm not. Y'all, care to list other Stereo Action records that are must-haves in any form? >As far as the price goes. It's not cheap and it's not a gouging price >either. I would have expected a bit more gouging in a hip music-conscious >spot like Austin. Then again, maybe the Esquivel thing has levelled out a >bit. Agreed. At the Austin Record Convention in October, Esquivels were going for $25 and up, and I use the prices I saw there as default buying guides. I've hunted for Esquivels in thrifts for several years now--never found one. Had the agonizing experience of finding an empty sleeve for More Other Worlds, Other Sounds in a New Mexico thrift--tore the stacks apart and no disk. I almost wept in frustration. And bought the sleeve for 50 cents as a good luck charm, voodoo to guarantee the record would come to me eventually. Silly. But it seems to have worked. The Esquivels I got were on consignment, like much of the stock at Antone's. Perhaps that also explains why the prices were $15. >Nice to see someone happy to find new music. Sometimes I think I'm a bit >too focussed on just adding it to the pile. That's why I still hesitate before labeling myself a collector. Probably the only categories where I'm a completist are 1) covers of Nino Rota music or the actual OSTs he scored and 2)...well, there's not really a 2). I don't buy records just to have them. Still remain ruthless is culling out the stuff that doesn't satisfy me. But I know lots of completists post here. Do any of you have deep thoughts to share on the completist compulsion...that's negative, sorry: how about the drive to have every record by an artist you love? Nat, what did you pick up from the collectors you interviewed for Vinyl? TIA, Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Airports, airplanes, and the people who love Date: 11 Feb 2000 13:44:49 EST In a message dated 2/11/0 11:27:30 AM, bcleve@pop.tiac.net wrote: >The design element - the logos, the travel bags, advertising >posters, the various acoutrements - exemplifies the Modern look of that era >(Scandanavian/Italian/American furniture, pop/op art, atomic futurism, etc) >so popular with graphic artists today. OK Cleve, tell 'em the story of your Air Italia bag from the 6T's and how the DJ on the NYC station asked you about it...Go on, tell it! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Optigans? Date: 11 Feb 2000 11:41:42 -0800 (PST) For those who like modern soft pop, I can't recommend Pea Hick's cd, "Optigonally Yours" enough . This is fabulous soft quirky pop tunes with the added bonus of the wonderful sounds of the Optigan. The optigon was a fun little toy organ. Check out Pea Hick's web site for great information on it and sound samples. http://www.optigan.com Really I just think this is a great great fun modern soft pop classic! Lucas and Freinds while not about optiagans is an amazing cd discussed on this list before and its about making a cd of found tapes at garage sails where kids recorded their voices doing rediculous stuff. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- cheryl wrote: > > Just curious - what is an optigan? Anyways, for all those interested > (and able to pick up CBC FM on their radios), this weekend, Radio Sonic > is running a show on it with former listmember Pea Hicks. Here's the > blurb they sent me: > > On Sunday February 13, airing 6:30PM - 8:00PM, David Wisdom is pleased > to present the creaky nostalgic sounds of the Optigan Lounge. What the > hell is an Optigan? Well, tune in to find out. > Producer James Booth does an interview with Optigan webmaster and member > of the band > Optiganally Yours, Pea Hicks. Hear music that contains the optigan from > Blur, Sukia, The Wedding Present, Cibo Matto, Tom Waits, and many many more. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Airports, airplanes, and the people who love Date: 11 Feb 2000 14:46:46 -0500 At 1:44 PM -0500 2/11/00, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: >OK Cleve, tell 'em the story of your Air Italia bag from the 6T's and how the >DJ on the NYC station asked you about it...Go on, tell it! You mean the one my wife found in the trash on our street that the DJ told me they were selling for over $500 in a Soho boutique. Or would sell for a cool grand or two in Tokyo? THAT story? br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Mailing List FAQ Date: 11 Feb 2000 11:46:17 -0800 (PST) What a gorgous site Mo! I am proud to be on a list with you Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- Moritz R wrote: > > To all new list members: > > The basic "Frequently Asked Questions" of this list are answered here: > #Exotica mailing list FAQ: http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Moritz.Reichelt/exofaq.html > Contains pics, links to other important sites and more. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: (exotica) The Blue Hawaiians Date: 11 Feb 2000 15:29:17 -0500 The Antone's outing also coughed up a CD lots of you would dig: Savage Night by The Blue Hawaiians (Coolsville/Interscope '99). Don't know if this neo-exotica/surf/lounge/bluesy band has come up here. I'm gone on this CD. =46irst, the name: a potent blue cocktail best served in a half coconut shell, aflame. Sexy vocals by the bassist Mark Fontana, who sounds like the second cousin of Roy Orbinson in low registers or Chris Issaks (sp?). Semitropical semitribal drum tracks (Tom Maxwell). Fine fine fine guitars (Mark Sproul) with steel guitar licks (Gary Brandon) for dangerous Island street cred. Hammond B-3 organ, (Michael Murphy or Red Young, who sit in). Horns where they work: trumpets, fluegelhorn, tenor and bari sax. A song list most exoticats would respect: covers of Mancini's Experiment in Terror, Wait's Jockey Full of Bourbon, a Sway that deserved mention on the recent discussion of this tune, and Shakin' All Over, for me the only weak cut on the CD. Strong originals including a crime jazzy tune Savage Night, A Cheat that's real Chris Issakish, High Life, and Hot Rods to Honolulu, starts out all exotica-smooth then gets manickly nuts, a tune to clear the club just before last call. Plus 2 secret bonus tracks: a Hammond organ solo that really should have the Continental cooing over it ala Pepe le Pew, and My Swingin' Hula Out on an island in the middle of the sea There's a swinging hula girl that waits for me Her eyes are softer than the moonlight on the sand I want to be her swingin' hula man My swinging hula I'm acting like a fool-a Where did you go to school-a Learn to dance that way? Your moves excite me I want you, I mean nightly Do you think I might be Your hula man someday? Anyone recognize these lyrics? My dear Moritz, you'd like the design of the CD booklet and website--accordion fold Photoshop stuff with blinking tiki lights on the web. Get a eyeful at the band's website, www.thebluehawaiians.com. Promised sound samples didn't download here. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Completist collecting (long response) Date: 11 Feb 2000 16:19:49 -0500 At 12:09 PM 2/11/00 -0500, Mimi Mayer wrote: >But I know lots of completists post here. Do any of you have deep thoughts >to share on the completist compulsion...that's negative, sorry: how about >the drive to have every record by an artist you love? Nat, what did you >pick up from the collectors you interviewed for Vinyl? If you're going to split hairs and categorize different collecting impulses, probably you have to start with the two categories of "accumulating" versus "collecting". These are not mutually exclusive categories since every collector I met was also an accumulator. But not all accumulators are collectors. A collector is someone looking for something specific, focussed. Usually that consists of one artist. Or a few. If someone collects a "genre", then they're probably an accumulator. But they could be a collector as well. An exotica collector might be someone looking for Martin Denny and Les Baxter records but who picks up related things when they see them. This is basically a preface to saying that IF you're a collector - as opposed to an accumulator - then I think the "completism" thing is an inherent and "natural" part of that. If you collect Marc Bolan as one guy does in my film or Elvis as another guy does, then you want EVERYTHING. And I do mean everything. Of course, even within the category of "everything", collectors make their own interpretations of what is necessary and what is superfluous. They make distinctions that would probably be "invisible" to the rest of us. They may want every "edition" of the same record, from different countries, with different covers or inner sleeves. But if the South African and the Scandinavian edition have the same cover, they may pass on having both of them. Or not. BUT in terms of the completism that you're talking about, which just means having every record - not every issue of the record - there's no doubt they want that. And I understand that. I was once that way about Al Green and maybe even Curtis Mayfield, even though he did make some half-sucky records at some point. I love the Louvin Brothers. I visited some guy and he had just bought their complete box set on Bear Family, which consisted of something like eight CD's. I have a few LP's, a greatest hits CD and one CD reissue. I told him I didn't think I wanted the box set. He said "If you love them, why wouldn't you want to hear EVERYTHING they did???" And I couldn't really answer that. It's not that I don't want to hear it, but more that I don't want to own it. (And I find that I don't play box sets anyway.) I think we all have some form of completism in us. It's like another friend of mine said "If I find Volume 2 of some record, I start wondering 'Where's Volume one?'" When I bought Provocative Percussion and Persuasive Percussion, I didn't know there were four volumes of each of them. Then I found Volume 3 of one of them and maybe Volume 4 of the other one. Then I started to think I wanted all four Volumes of each. Then I had them. Then I went on a Command purge and decided that I didn't really need Volumes 3 and 4 of either of them. But I only managed to sell those volumes of Provocative and kept all four Persuasive. And call me neurotic but I sorta miss the last two volumes of Provocative that I sold AND I still wonder why I kept the volumes of Persuasive that I kept. In order to be a completist, you have to actually KNOW what's out there. You have to have the discographies. Thus you get guys at stores or record shows who carry around lists to remind them what they have and what they still "need". One of the reasons I'm not a completist is because I don't know what's out there, don't know much about what I DON'T have and I usually have to actually find the record before I can go "Oh look Duane Eddy did a record of all Dylan covers!" Being on this list for the last two years (coming up on my anniversary I think) HAS changed that to some degree because I hear about records I don't have and then they go on the tiny mental "want list". But if you were a real collector, you'd go out looking for them, make a concerted effort, go up to dealers at the shows and ask specifically for that record. And I don't do that. My want list consists of records I hope I come across someday. There are easy listening/lounge/exotica artists who I'd like to have a "significant sampling" of but in a lot of cases, I think completism would be too much mainly because they made so many records. I'd also contend that with this genre, it's the "sound" more than the "artists" that I'm interested in. So for instance, no matter how much I like Les Baxter's exotica records or even his psychedelic soundtrack stuff, being a Les Baxter completist wouldn't make sense. I don't want his fairly standard big band records and I had no trouble trading his soundtrack to some Hercules movie - or was it Samson? - because it was pretty standard orchestral stuff. I think we have a Command collector on this list and now we appear to have a Walter Wanderly collector too. But I doubt they're completists in the sense that Beatles or Cliff Richards or Jim Reeves collectors usually are. I don't think that any collecting or completism or even accumulating - on the level I do it anyway - is JUST about the music. But some manifestations of it are less about the music and some are more. Having said that, I do think that the mentality which would strive for A COMPLETE SET of anything, is very human. It's just that some of us want too much of the other stuff too. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj Batman Subject: Re: (exotica) Completist collecting (was Yesterday's scores) Date: 11 Feb 2000 22:09:57 +0100 >That's why I still hesitate before labeling myself a collector. Probably >the only categories where I'm a completist are 1) covers of Nino Rota music >or the actual OSTs he scored ever heard of a cd called "Felliniana" released here in Italy in early 90's consisting of techno/dance arrangments, with a latin feel, of soundtracks from Fellini movies (mostly by Rota)? Some bits are really crappy but I still believe it's fun. ;) bye, Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista "Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief" (Bono) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Re: (exotica) Completist collecting (was Yesterday's scores) Date: 11 Feb 2000 13:56:24 -0800 >But I know lots of completists post here. Do any of you have deep thoughts >to share on the completist compulsion...that's negative, sorry: how about >the drive to have every record by an artist you love? No need to apologize for that statement. Collectors are very compulsive people and I'll be the first to admit it because I'm one myself. We're the only ones who salivate at the thought of finding something belonging to our heroes when we go out on a "hunt"... The rest of humanity usually has a "I can take it or leave it" buying philosophy. However, the completist philosophy (in my case, anyway) does vary with the hobby being pursued. In music, I usually like to have everything that a hero has done if for no other reason than for my personal evaluation, since I take what other reviewers and critics say with a grain of salt and like to make up my own mind about an album (same as I do with movies). If it turns out that I really hate or can't stand the album (and this is very rare), I can always sell the item myself. With other hobbies that I maintained in the past, I definitely did not buy something that I didn't like the looks or style of, regardless of whether it was considered part and parcel of that item's world. These were non-music items that didn't involve listening or other evaluation beyond careful eyeball observation. Regards, --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, February 13 Date: 11 Feb 2000 17:15:08 -0500 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at:=20 http://www.ckut.ca =20 As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #82 Kinky Beats Jacknife Lee: Here Kitty Kitty "Kinky Beats" Tak=E9 Rodriguez & His Exotic Arkestra: Cat Ska "Pasi=F3n De Ritmo" =09 Resident Filters: Big Train "Kinky Beats"=09 =09 Bobby Hughes Experience: Sahara 72 "Fusa Riot" Trio El=E9trico: Luneria "Jet Society" Mo' Horizons: Fever 99 Degrees "Come Touch The Sun" =09 =09 Daddy Long Legs: Spy Versus Spy "Pussy Galore" Eno: Ali Click (Beirut Hilton Mix) "Ali Click" Ursula 1000: The Shake "The Now Sound Of..."=09 =09 The Maxwell Implosion: Jet Ski "Pool Position" Le Hammond Inferno: Margret Evening Fashion (LHI vs Copasetic Mix)=20 "Easy Leasing Superstar"=09 Masanori Ikeda: Theme From Lupin The 3rd "Pool Position" Thanks for reading. =20 cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) The Blue Hawaiians Date: 11 Feb 2000 14:39:04 -0800 The Blue Hawaiians have a great song on their "Christmas from Big Island" CD called "Have yourself a Quiet little Christmas". The song uses the bass line from "Quiet Village" to wonderfully excellent effect! The rest of the stuff I've heard tends to be more surf in sound, though it is clear these guys are in the tiki/exotica vibe with regards to packaging and attitude. -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otto" Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Videoze Date: 11 Feb 2000 12:40:38 -0800 > Lyman and band appear as the house band in the Shell bar in an episode of > Hawaiian Eye TV show > > Aloha > Otto > > otto@tikinews.com > www.tikinews.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Airports, airplanes, and the people who love Date: 11 Feb 2000 20:05:57 EST In a message dated 2/11/0 2:43:26 PM, bcleve@pop.tiac.net wrote: >You mean the one my wife found in the trash on our street that the DJ told >me they were selling for over $500 in a Soho boutique. Or would sell for a >cool grand or two in Tokyo? THAT story? Yeah, the one where you had the Alitalia bag on a drive to NYC and were asked, "Where did you get THAT?" The DJ asked U where you got it when you arrived in the studio with Thee Millionaire prior to checking in at your "place of lodging" and you responded that your wife found it in the trash and left a DJ, a DDJJ no less, momentarily dumbfounded! (I knew the tale beforehand ;-)) JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Optigans? Date: 11 Feb 2000 20:08:57 EST In a message dated 2/11/0 2:43:48 PM, chuckmk@yahoo.com wrote: >Pea Hick's cd, >"Optigonally Yours". This is fabulous soft quirky pop tunes with >the added bonus of the wonderful sounds of the Optigan. The optigon was a >fun little toy organ. Does this compare in anyway with "The Magic Organ" LP's? The late 7T's recordings where a fake organ is accompanied by the beat options contained within its cheap little box?? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otto" Subject: Re: (exotica) The Blue Hawaiians Date: 11 Feb 2000 18:27:16 -0800 > and don't forget thta the reason The Blue Hawaiians started was to be house > band at the Lava Lounge a new Exotic bar owned by a very cool Tiki lover > > Aloha > Otto > > otto@tikinews.com > www.tikinews.com > > ---------- > >From: Kevin Crossman > >To: Mimi Mayer > >Cc: exotica@lists.xmission.com > >Subject: Re: (exotica) The Blue Hawaiians > >Date: Fri, Feb 11, 2000, 2:39 PM > > > > > > >The Blue Hawaiians have a great song on their "Christmas from Big > >Island" CD called "Have yourself a Quiet little Christmas". > > > >The song uses the bass line from "Quiet Village" to wonderfully > >excellent effect! > > > >The rest of the stuff I've heard tends to be more surf in sound, though > >it is clear these guys are in the tiki/exotica vibe with regards to > >packaging and attitude. > > > >-Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Mailing List FAQ Date: 12 Feb 2000 16:33:52 +0100 Thanks, Chuck. I admit, there was a bit of advertising involved, but mainly I have been reading so many questions of new list members lately, that I felt, that many might not be aware of the fact that there is an elaborated FAQ. Thanks to Ross again, who once started it. Speaking of it: ALL list-members with web sites that have a link in the FAQ: please check if the web address is still up to date; other wise contact me or Ross! Mo P.S.: Chuck, could you explain to non-native-english-speaking people what is meant by the expression "The Big Easy"? I have been asking me that for quite a while now. There's also a TV series with that title (pretty good one btw). chuck wrote: > What a gorgous site Mo! > I am proud to be on a list with you > > Easy listening in the Big Easy > Chuck > > --- Moritz R wrote: > > > > To all new list members: > > > > The basic "Frequently Asked Questions" of this list are answered here: > > #Exotica mailing list FAQ: > http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Moritz.Reichelt/exofaq.html > > Contains pics, links to other important sites and more. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Completist collecting (long response) Date: 12 Feb 2000 16:34:21 +0100 So, Nat, how'd you call someone who wants to have ALL GOOD records, no matter what genre or time? Like me. For instance: I LOVE Martin Denny, but I sold Exotic Moog, because I didn't care for it. I also got rid of several Les Baxter, Arthur Lyman et al. Problem with this kind of collecting is, that I tend to sell the records that I don't like ANYMORE, and of course later regret it. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: (exotica) FeelthyRadioTonight Date: 12 Feb 2000 09:45:54 -0800 The planets, aligned, the gods smiled, and the netcast is ON! (Saturday evening, starting 5 or 6ish PST) Getting friends together these days is like organizing a Middle East peace treaty, but I managed to find a time to get some good friends into the same room at the same time, and we decided the best way to spend it is playing records for each other...and anyone on the net who'd care to hear. We are trying a new format - this time broadcasting from my office, rather than my old (and now gone) dungeonlike basement-Tiki-haven of the past. I set up some turntables, etc and tested the lines and all is working nicely. We even will have a live cam for your viewing enjoyment. This should be interesting. It's not all exotica - Lots of folks bringin' lots of stuff from all over the musical map, so it should be interesting and eclectic. Nobody will be accomplished DJ's...Just folks with rekkids. We'd be so pleased if anyone would care to join the party. http://www.xtabay.com/feelthyradio.htm If you need help with tuning in, send email or use the ICQ pager provided on the Feelthy page. See you there. Ron Grandia # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) Porn to Rock Date: 12 Feb 2000 22:04:33 +0100 Haven't seen this mentioned before: from www.porntorock.com PORN TO ROCK A Collection of Songs Performed by the Top Stars of Adult Film The Project: Porn to Rock is a compilation of songs that showcases the musical talents of thirteen adult film actors and actresses. The performers are enormous celebrities in their own right, with fan clubs, Internet sites and online newsgroups dedicated to them, but few have had the exposure they deserve for their musical talent. The Artists: The performers on Porn to Rock range from retired legends of the business like Ginger Lynn to newcomers like Chloe Nichole. Some performers already have a connection to the music world, like Candye Kane (who has a new release on Sire records), David Burrill (on Macola records) and Geoffrey Karen Dior (who duets with 80's icon Stacey Q). The CD crosses lines of sexual preference with gay film stars like Marshall O Boy, and famed S/M team Vinnie Spit and Mistress Jacqueline. The release also includes tracks by Hyapatia Lee, Suzi Suzuki, Johnny Toxic, Nina Whett, Midori and Madison. The Music: The music on Porn to Rock is as varied and eclectic as the mix of performers. Virtually all styles are covered, from Rock 'n' Roll to Swing, Techno and Dance, music fans will find something to like in these tracks. What will come as a surprise to many is how good these songs are - many of them live up to todays top radio hits. My vinyl copy (european pressing?) is from Normal Records / Q.D.K. Media (www.normal-records.com). I also noticed there seems to be a new Betty Page volume : Private Girl, or has this been out a while? Arjan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Completist collecting (long response) Date: 12 Feb 2000 16:11:40 -0500 At 04:34 PM 2/12/00 +0100, Moritz R wrote: > >So, Nat, how'd you call someone who wants to have ALL GOOD records, no >matter what genre or time? Like me. For instance: I LOVE Martin Denny, >but I sold Exotic Moog, because I didn't care for it. I also got rid of >several Les Baxter, Arthur Lyman et al. Problem with this kind of >collecting is, that I tend to sell the records that I don't like >ANYMORE, and of course later regret it. You're an accumulator. I know it's not as clear and decisive a word as "collector" but strictly speaking, a collector is more focussed than you. And a collector is driven to have COMPLETE SETS Most collectors of rock n roll will have a specific focus on a couple of artists and be driven to get complete sets of that artist's work. That's the definition of collecting. But many of them will also pick up other rock n roll records as they see them, on a casual basis. They're looking for every single thing that's even vaguely related to Eddie Cochrane for instance but they'll probably have some Carl Perkins just because they like him too. In that sense, most collectors are also accumulators. But the reverse doesn't hold true. Most accumulators don't have enough focus of any kind to "qualify" as collectors. If you're looking for "ALL GOOD" records, that's too wide and unfocussed a target to be called "collecting". However if, within that accumulating tendency, there were a couple of artists on whom you were focussed, you could be considered a collector TOO. But here's the reason I know you're not a collector. A Martin Denny collector would never get rid of one of his records because they didn't particularly care for it. They might be disappointed but they wouldn't break up the set over such a consideration. Musical appreciation certainly influences their habit but it doesn't drive it. By definition, "completism" is implicit in collecting. There's no need to qualify it. It's redundant. A Martin Denny collector would say "Here's every record Martin Denny ever made. And oh yeah, here's the one that represents his unfortunate foray into moog music". They may never play it but they have to be able to point it out, pull it off the shelf and show it to you. And I understand that impulse even though I don't practice it. I drive myself crazy being an a