From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: special more expensive audio CDRs (was: I rest my case now) Date: 01 Apr 2000 14:45:48 +0200 Moritz R wrote: >Blank CD ROMs are down to 0.9 US$ now here. A friend told me, he records >audio CDs on his computer using those and is able to play them on his >regular CD player. So does this mean, you need these special more >expensive audio CDRs only when you burn them on an audio CDR recorder? yes. i've said this before, but over here in Belgium, the price difference between computer CD-R's and audio CD-R's isn't as big as in the US it seems: a Lead Data computer CD-R's costs $1.00, while a Lead Data audio CD-R costs $1.12 -- only 12 cents more! Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) New finds Date: 01 Apr 2000 10:51:58 -0500 How's this for a range of new finds: Alejandra & Underwood - The Children's Record - Children's songs looped and cut up, all in a hand made package - From the UK "Lucky Kitchen" label that brought us Blip Bleep. Value priced too! Various - Monster Sounds and Boppin Soundtracks Vol.1 - Marginal Records. Found yet another CD lying around in the same store I found the last one on this label (Oriental Pop Hits). Same 50's era garage sound but different theme. Includes Frankie Stein, Bob McFadden, Ken Nordine, H. Mancini (Experiment in Terror) Dinah Shore, Bobby Pickett etc. Johan mentioned this label is no more which is a shame. Listened to another one on the same label of Girl groups but aside from the really good Annette - Bikini Beach Party piece, it wasn't all that interesting. More rock n' roll than garage sound. Roger Roger & Nino Nardini - Merry & Sad. Looks to be a library record of very strange Perrey & Kingsley/Bruce Haack type sound. Maybe not quite as perkly as P & K but lots of fun nonetheless. The cover was so-so but the vinyl was near mint. All this for CDN $8 (that's maybe $5 US). Anyone know more about this record since I'm certain Roger Roger has been discussed before? None of these come from thrift stores I should add. A good reason to support your local record stores! Brian K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: Re: (exotica) New finds Date: 01 Apr 2000 17:23:01 GMT what's the store and in what city did you get those? thanks jb ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour Date: 01 Apr 2000 12:32:11 -0600 On this week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast, we'll talk with Juan del Caso of Cabaret Diosa, the band from Boulder, Colorado that's leading a modern mambo revolution. Also on the show, bossa nova from Quincy Jones and Ed Lincoln; bongo beats by the Latin All Stars and Jack Costanzo; those stalwarts from the early '60s RCA Victor stable, Dick Schory, Bob Thompson and Leo Addeo; a visit to "Kookie's Mad Pad"; plus Mirageman, Vinnie Bell, Les Baxter, Armando Trovaioli and music for the "original swinger". To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour on the Web, just visit: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html And, if you tune us in, drop us a line. Your comments, requests and suggestions are always welcome. Thanks for the space! Darrell Brogdon dbrogdon@ukans.edu The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Religious Propaganda Date: 01 Apr 2000 13:24:28 -0800 (PST) Not to beat a dead horse, but my favorite piece of religious propaganda is Jesus Was Way Cool by King Missile. A classic. Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) The little hairs on the back of my neck Date: 01 Apr 2000 23:56:04 +0200 Peter Risser wrote: > They're standing up as I'm listening to the version of > Bicycle Built for Two as rendered (voice and all) by > the IBM 7090 Computer in 1955. Isn't this the song > that the HAL 9000 sang? Sorry, busy with all my other threads, I missed this one: On what record is this? Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) A complete Venture Date: 01 Apr 2000 23:57:02 +0200 m.ace wrote: > http://www.geocities.com/~sandcastle/venture.htm > > I've been browsing the discographies at the above site, and in answer to > Nat's original question... yes, I think collecting all The Ventures' > records would indeed leave you broke AND crazy. How's 450 LPs in different countries! And they didn't even count the ones, that I have, those Japanese reissues of original American albums. I'm sure as a collector you have to leave them sealed with this paper stripe that Jap records use to have inside. Which I did not, of course. > Some of the later ones certainly sound intriguing... like the NASA 25th > Anniversary Commemorative Album. Or the Rare Recordings, another Japanese LP. The Ventures were really "big in Japan". (Which brings me again to wondering, why are there - apparently - no Japanese Members in the Exotica List? Japan was always great for Exotica, think of Water Melon!) Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Hurry To Me Date: 01 Apr 2000 14:14:12 -0800 (PST) Hey all, Roy Budd does a song that shows up on some Sequel comps that he calls Hurry To Me. Apparently it's written by Morricone. Anyone know what film this is from and what the Italian name may be? Also, maybe where to find a version of it by him? Thanks, Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Hurry To Me Date: 01 Apr 2000 18:22:08 EST In a message dated 4/1/00 4:14:30 PM, knucklehead000@yahoo.com writes: << Roy Budd does a song that shows up on some Sequel comps that he calls Hurry To Me. Apparently it's written by Morricone. Anyone know what film this is from and what the Italian name may be? Also, maybe where to find a version of it by him? >> I don't recall the film, but it can be found in its original Morricone glory on the excellent comp "Mondo Morricone" (Colosseum Records). --Rod # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Com Ed question Date: 01 Apr 2000 21:09:04 -0500 I feel like such a trainspotter, but... Is the carousel photo in the tray of "The Impossible World" an intentional reference to the cover photo of the We Five album, "Make Someone Happy"? tanx, m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SLarry3595@aol.com Subject: (exotica) four AMAZING albums Date: 01 Apr 2000 21:56:51 EST I have never submitted a recent purchases post before. To be honest I buy so many records it would bore everyone to the point of quitting the list if I posted every new record I bought. Here are more 4 favorite new to my collection albums. Anyway, I have just listened to one of the best records I have heard in about a year...HENRI RENE - RIOT IN RYTHMN! I wouldn't have ever guessed. I have heard several of his strings LP and thought they were a bore, but this record rules. Some of you may have heard the song "Hansel And Pretzel" from this album as it is on two of the good exotica/space age comp cds that were released a few years ago. As good as that song is I think the rest of this album is even better! My highest recommendation. Any other great Henri records lurking out there. COMPULSION TO SWING looks good but the only shop around here that has it wants $30.00. Way too much for my budget. SHELLY MANNE - PETER GUNN. Shelly's band featuring cool mallet work playing only songs from the TV show. Mancini wrote special new arrangements for this LP. Now out on a fairly low priced cd (about $11). I love Mancini cover albums by jazz bands anyone, but this one I have especially enjoyed. Another great one is Eddie Harris JAZZ FOR BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S. Real jazz versions of everything from the Mancini LP. They even make Moon River jam out! MIKE SIMPSON - DISCUSSION IN PERCUSSION. Some on the list may find this one a little old fashioned in parts, but I love this LP. My favorite of the Mercury Living Presence Stereo exotica LPs. LES BAXTER - PORTS OF PLEASURE. I had never fully appreciated Baxter till I recently got this LP. I played it four times in a row I was so knocked out by it. Some of the other Baxter LPs I've heard I found kind of lame, but if there is more like this I can understand why he is so well regarded. So, my questions: Based on these ramblings what Henri Rene and Les Baxter titles do you guys/gals recommend? Question two: Is Martin Denny's HYPNOTIQUE as great as the grape vine would have me believe? Should I pony up the dough for the cd. Larry PS. THose of you also on the exotica ring trade list be prepared to hear some tunes from these LPs soon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, April 2 Date: 01 Apr 2000 22:20:42 -0500 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #89 Bop Bop Space Bop DJ Me DJ You: Set The Controls "Rainbows & Robots" Etienne Charry: Raye Du Bottin "36 Erreurs" Felix Kubin: Pornodisko "Filmmusik" Laurent Lombard: Sugar Boogie "Happyland" Yoshinori Sunahara: The New World Break "Pan Am: The Sound Of The '70s" Tim "Love" Lee: Ruffbutt "Confessions Of A Selector" Stereo Total: Heaven's In The Back Seat Of My Cadillac "Juke-Box Alarm" Arling & Cameron: Shiva's Daughters "Music For Imaginary Films" Takako Minekawa w/DJ Me DJ You: Fancy Work Funk "Fun9" Le Hammond Inferno: Margret Evening Fashion (Dakota Mix) "Pool Position" DJ Me DJ You: Spa "Rainbows & Robots" Our Man From Odessa: SoftTransAuto "KidNap International" Laurent Lombard: Pop Corn Party "Happyland" Thanks for reading. cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) four AMAZING albums Date: 01 Apr 2000 19:38:00 -0800 At 09:56 PM 01-04-00 EST, you wrote: >Anyway, I have just listened to one of the best records I have heard in about >a year...HENRI RENE - RIOT IN RYTHMN! >Any other great Henri records lurking out there? IMHO, Riot in Rhythm is Henri Rene's best, followed by Compulsion to Swing. Then, there are two Imperial LPs: White Heat 9074 and The Swinging '59 9096. I have several of his other LPs (all on RCA) but I find them way too laid back for me (some would say lame). If there are better ones out there, I want to know. I keep trying them when they are reasonable but never seem to find any better than Riot in Rhythm. >LES BAXTER - PORTS OF PLEASURE. I had never fully appreciated Baxter till I >recently got this LP. >what...Les Baxter titles do you guys/gals recommend? Les Baxter is a musician for all seasons and all tastes. There is even better stuff than Ports of Pleasure and less interesting stuff as you mentioned. I know there are more, but certainly Skins, The Sacred Idol and Ritual of the Savage (on Capitol) and The Primitive and the Passionate (Reprise) are a good start. Oh, also there is a double LP set which is the best vinyl compilation of Baxter around: The Sounds of Adventure. Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SLarry3595@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) four AMAZING albums/Les Baxter Date: 01 Apr 2000 23:41:51 EST I wrote: >LES BAXTER - PORTS OF PLEASURE. I had never fully appreciated Baxter till I >recently got this LP. >what...Les Baxter titles do you guys/gals recommend? >> Byron replied: >Les Baxter is a musician for all seasons and all tastes. There is even better stuff than Ports of Pleasure and less interesting stuff as you mentioned. < Keeping in mind that I am a big fan of "Ports Of Pleasure" would you recommend "Carribean Moonlight"? That's the one album of his that seems to be exotica that I see more than most of the others. It pops up on eBay almost every day. Thanks! Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SLarry3595@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Edmundo Ros Date: 01 Apr 2000 23:46:33 EST Most of you will recall there was a lengthy thread on Edmundo Ros a while back. From following those posts it seemed that most were not too impressed with his records and I stayed away from them. However, recently I've heard two of his LPs which are part of the London Phase 4 Stereo series...one with Edmundo joined by Caterina Valente on vocals, and the other one just Edumundo titled "Senor Ros Latin Boss." I found both of those to be great fun to listen to. Is this typical of his records, or did I just luck onto the two good ones and should steer clear of any others? If I recall correctly there were some Edmundo defenders in the debate. May I request that we open that discussion once again? Thanks, Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SLarry3595@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Chipmunks/David Seville/Ross Bagdasarian Date: 02 Apr 2000 00:02:11 EST In a message dated 3/29/00 4:01:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, bigshot@spumco.com writes: << He came up with "The Chipmunk Song" (Christmas Don't Be Late) and went to Liberty Records to see if they would release it. He found out that Liberty was on the verge of bankruptcy. He pointed out that they had a large supply of vinyl pucks (the raw material 45s were made of) and if they went under, the bank would just end up with them... no reason not to press them up into Chipmunk singles. Liberty said OK, so they did a batch of singles and sent them out to radio stations. Suddenly the roof blew off and the demand for the singles was huge. >> Thank you, thank you, thank you for your info on Bagdasarian. Fascinating for me to read. I must admit that I was suprised and a little disappointed to read that Ross was not really a musician and had lots of help with his compositions. In addition to his Chipmunks and novelty records Ross recorded lots of great instrumental records. His first minor hit was "Armen's Theme" (I think it hit 41 on the pop charts) which was cover by a huge number of other artists. His albums are full of exotica flavored instrumentals including the LP "THE MIXED UP WORLD OF ROSS BAGDASARIAN" which is one of my five most prized LPs out of my whole collection! "The Music Of David Seville" is also filled with lots of nice instrumentals. For those who may be new to this interesting man and his music he recorded under the names David Seville, Alfi & Harry, Ross Bagdasarian & The Chipmunks (and possibly others). He released lots of singles many with great instrumental B sides. And his non-Chipmunk humor was often touching in a bittersweet way with an underlying theme of the sadness of the human condition. I have always felt that was some real depth to much of his lesser known work. And you are totally correct that the arrangements on the early "real" Chipmunks records was cool with the bouncing saxes, the arrangements making them even listenable to me as an adult who tires of the Chipmunk gag after about 2 seconds. I am somewhat dismayed that there is so little information in print or elsewhere about this man. I have seen autographed pictures of Ross on eBay where he was described as an actor in the ad. Did he do film acting apart from voicing Seville and the Chipmunks on the TV cartoon? DO you know where the David Seville name and alter ego came from? Anymore information you can provide on the list or directly to me off-list would be greatly appreciated. The information you have provided on Bagdasarian has been worthwhile enough to me to justify having a computer and being on the internet!! Best wishes, Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Edmundo Ros Date: 01 Apr 2000 21:08:14 -0800 At 11:46 PM 01-04-00 EST, Larry wrote: >recently I've heard >two of his LPs which are part of the London Phase 4 Stereo series...one with >Edmundo joined by Caterina Valente on vocals, and the other one just Edmundo >titled "Senor Ros Latin Boss." >I found both of those to be great fun to listen to. Obviously you were led down the WRONG PATH earlier! I personally have enjoyed EVERY ONE of his albums that I have bought and continue to look for more. I just got an early Ros/Valente LP and I know I will enjoy it (I like both Valente and Ros). Some will say they don't like Ros singing and I agree...not exactly a wonderful singer. However, he puts heart in it and that I can get into. Once I accept that he is not a great singer, I actually enjoy those cuts. Actually I have heard few other reasons why Ros albums should be avoided. I can't quantify exactly why I think you should look into more Ros except to repeat what you already said: his music is fun. If you enjoyed those albums you mentioned, you should try some others. Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: (exotica) Re: sock it to me Date: 02 Apr 2000 00:05:40 -0500 for restaurants, you might call Nirvana, which should be on central park south. it has the most astounding view. very good indian food. used to have live improvitory north indian sitar music, played by Dr. Shyam Yodh, a very cool guy. if he's still there, he is aces. this is in the same building as some famous tiki restaurant (trader vic's????). i can't remember. good luck, have fun, call if you want for a short hang. ck Bump_Stadelman@discovery.com wrote: > > ok you NEW YAWKERS! i need your help. > can you tell me where are the cool record stores in Manhattan? > also an exotic place to eat...preferably with live music (indian, turkish > etc)??? > > i am going up for a day on monday with my girlfriend who just got hired by DC > Comics > to do some covers for some upcoming Vertigo comics. so i wanna do it (her) up > right > but i do not have any clue about where to go and what to do in your lovely > metropolis. > > baltimoron bump > email me at home...bump@defectiverecords.com -- Listen ANY TIME at http://www.megasaver.com/sma/soundlinks.html Citizen Kafka, Producer, "The Secret Museum of the Air" every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM & WXHD (Hudson Valley) 90.1 FM http://wfmu.org/ then go to 'listen to wfmu' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Chipmunks/David Seville/Ross Bagdasarian Date: 01 Apr 2000 21:21:49 -0800 At 12:02 AM 02-04-00 EST, Larry wrote: >He released lots of singles many with great instrumental B sides. I totally agree! I am on my own personal mission to find all the non-Chipmunk stuff through B sides, singles, whatever. He may have needed help to capture the sounds he was looking for, but they WERE his sounds and definitely no one else's! My favorite still is "Almost Good" which is the very first David Seville side I had heard. >I am somewhat dismayed that there is so little information in print or >elsewhere about this man. Yes, me too! Other than a Life magazine feature article and a couple of newsmagazine articles (all about the Chipmunks craze) there is little else available that I have been able to find. >Did he do film acting apart from voicing Seville and the >Chipmunks on the TV cartoon? Yes, he has been in a number of films. The only one where I have seen him was Rear Window (he played a pianist whom Jimmy Stewart was viewing through his spyglass across the way in another apartment). He was definitely not a major actor. Seems like he dabbled in all sorts of things and pretty much enjoyed life that way. The chipmunks thing definitely was a good financial move for him, although not exactly his most creative. >DO you know where the David Seville name and alter ego came from? No, but the Life magazine article says the "ALVIN!" shouting routine came from how Ross Sr. addressed one of his boys (although the name was not Alvin) on occasion. By the way, Armin's Theme was music written for his wife, Armin. Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PrimoChuck@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Chipmunks/David Seville/Ross Bagdasarian Date: 02 Apr 2000 00:50:42 EST The Chipmunks were named Alvin (after Liberty Owner Alvin Bennett), Theodore (after engineer Ted Keep) and Simon (after Si Waronker who also worked at Liberty). Armen's theme also resurfaced as a Chipmunks song "I Wish I Could Speak French" and Bobby Vee's "Yesterday and You." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Hurry To Me Date: 02 Apr 2000 00:04:02 -0500 At 6:22 PM -0500 4/1/00, RLott@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 4/1/00 4:14:30 PM, knucklehead000@yahoo.com writes: > ><< Roy Budd does a song that shows up on some Sequel >comps that he calls Hurry To Me. Apparently it's >written by Morricone. Anyone know what film this is >from and what the Italian name may be? >Also, maybe where to find a version of it by him? >> > >I don't recall the film, but it can be found in its original Morricone glory >on the excellent comp "Mondo Morricone" (Colosseum Records). The film is called "Metti Una Sera A Cena", the soundtrack of which was just reissued recently (by DagoRed I believe). Dusty Groove has it. The track was covered recently by the fab Italian bossa group Balanco, and remixed by both Jazzanova and by Fez File. All are superb. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul thomas" Subject: (exotica) Dali (was cartoons and drugs) Date: 01 Apr 2000 22:01:22 -0800 ...and Salvador Dali. But neither of them lasted more than a couple of months at the studio and the projects they worked on didn't amount to anything. I've spoken to a lot of animators who were there at the time, and none of them ever saw Dali on the lot. When I was taking photography courses there was a cartooning/animation teacher who had worked with Disney and Tex Avery too. He was with Disney when Dali was engaged to develope a cartoon. Apparently Dali was everywhere but at the drawing board (Dali was probably out walking his ocelots) and this got to be a problem at Disney studios. Finally, they tracked Dali down and said to him "we've done everything imaginable to get you here and you haven't done a thing. What's up?" Dali hemmed and hawed and finally said 'Well,it's the paper you've given me." "What's wrong with the paper? It's the same as everyone else is using" "Yes, but it's all those little holes down the side of the paper...those holes make the paper so beautiful I couldn't possibly ruin it by drawing on it!" That, apparently, was the last of Dali at Disney. My father worked in the gemstone business in Los Angeles in the mid Fifties and had Dali come into the store with a huge ruby which he wanted fixed up with a series of lights that would pulsate like a beating heart. It would've ruined the stone and my father said "are you kidding?" ~~ Paul Send FREE April Fool's Greetings to your friends! http://www.whowhere.lycos.com/redirects/American_Greetings.rdct # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Sironi" Subject: Re: (exotica) four AMAZING albums/Les Baxter Date: 02 Apr 2000 01:36:53 -0500 > Keeping in mind that I am a big fan of "Ports Of Pleasure" would you > recommend "Carribean Moonlight"? That's the one album of his that seems to > be exotica that I see more than most of the others. It pops up on eBay I would not consider "Carribean Moonlight" exotica at all. I think it's straight up easy listening. Based on what you've said I don't think you'll like it. -- Mark Sironi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Edmundo Ros Date: 02 Apr 2000 08:28:42 -0500 Hair Goes Latin. And generally I find Ros disappointing. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr Subject: (exotica) Re: Baxter/Ros Date: 02 Apr 2000 10:56:42 -0400 SLarry wrote: >Keeping in mind that I am a big fan of "Ports Of Pleasure" would you >recommend "Carribean Moonlight"? That's the one album of his that seems to >be exotica that I see more than most of the others. That's a definite "maybe." Keep in mind that it is Baxter's arrangement's of other people's compositions--not his own amazing originals--and it tends towards the string-heavy and subdued. The blurb on the back uses the word "languorous," and I'd say that's pretty accurate. For me it's a keeper, just for his dark and mysterious version of "Poinciana." also: >If I recall correctly there were some Edmundo defenders I'm an Edmundo fence-straddler. . . A few of the Ros records which have passed through Casa Mambo didn't make the cut. But these were keepers: Rhythms of the South Hollywood Cha Cha Cha Dance Again (Phase 4) The first and third actually include *two* alternate versions of the "Colonel Bogey March," done as a Merengue! You really haven't lived until you've heard that one. cheers, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) "Butch Cassidy" OST Question Date: 02 Apr 2000 12:29:56 Can anyone confirm that the singers on "South American Getaway" on the "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" soundtrack are Anita Kerr & co.? The album cover doesn't mention them, but it's hard to mistake Anita's little girl soprano. Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SLarry3595@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Chipmunks/David Seville/Ross Bagdasarian Date: 02 Apr 2000 13:52:24 EDT Anyone on this list who also collects Bagdasarian/Seville LPs and 45s who is interested in trading cdr or tapes please contact me off list. I have several rare and great ones. If you have some also we can trade and get that much closer to hearing all of his stuff. You all know this already, but for the record, these are trades only not for sale and not to be sold, for gifts/trades only. As it seems doubtful that anything apart from The Chipmunk Song, Armen's Theme, and Witch Doctor will ever be on a commercial cd these trades should not infringe on any commercial rights. (Just don't want to step on the toes of anyones financial interests). Thanks, Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Nat Kone's CD Burner Date: 02 Apr 2000 11:01:46 -0700 (PDT) I know i'm a week behind, but there's two things I wanted to say. 1) I know people on this list swear up and down about Mini-Disc, but I'm still skeptical. I believe it's a lossy format, like MP3, which means that it can sound damn close, which is fine for car stereos or what have you. But as an archiving medium, it's still only damn close, not exact. So, that's my belief and I know others disagree, but there you are. 2) If you go with a stand-alone, yes the discs are more expensive but there are ways of fooling them into taking regular CD-ROms. At least there used to be. Also, it divides tracks based on silence. So, even if you don't care about digitally editing record pops (which I don't) you can still end up with a hokey track setup. Now, if you are just using this as a temporary mechanism until your big computer comes in, you can always archive LPs this way, then go back and straighten 'em out and clean 'em up later. 3) Without a scanner, you lose out on the nifty artwork. That's my three cents. Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ark edgar" Subject: (exotica) good old presbyterian scotland Date: 02 Apr 2000 20:26:22 +0100 seems to me in good old presbyterian scotland that BJ is probably mad or something. or maybe even a republican!!!! horror of horrors cheers Ronnie. PS. I remember not o long ago that I caused great upset by condemning Western Swing, and I'm not a control freak fascist. so I reckon BJ should chill out a little, and stop being such a stalker. PPS I am enjoying a beer as I post this, so up yours and it sure is mighty nice poison. PPPS Walter Wanderly will never rise from the grave to come and take you away from it all, Live in the now.........!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taro HOSHIJIMA Subject: Re: (exotica) A complete Venture Date: 03 Apr 2000 06:46:54 +0900 On Sat, 01 Apr 2000 23:57:02 +0200 Moritz R wrote: > Or the Rare Recordings, another Japanese LP. The Ventures were really "big in > Japan". (Which brings me again to wondering, why are there - apparently - no > Japanese Members in the Exotica List? Japan was always great for Exotica, > think of Water Melon!) Though mostly lurking, I've been a Japanese member in this list for about 5 years. I'm just too lazy to be noticed or just want to keep my rare state intact :-) Anyway, the Ventures still tour throughout Japan every year. It's like an annual event. Taro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lenkei@echonyc.com (bruce lenkei) Subject: (exotica) Edmundo Ros Date: 02 Apr 2000 20:06:35 -0500 I think that like almost every exotica artist, Edmundo recorded his share of sub-par records. BUT, most of his earlier stuff on Phase Four is a barrel of fun. My favorites include "Bongos from The South" (including a latin-ized, bongo-ized version of 'Deep in the heart of Texas') and a record called "Heath Vs. Ros" which is an album he did with Ted Heath. (There's also a volume 2 of this) The track from Heath Vs. Ros called "Ted meets Ed" is by itself, worth getting the album. He's also got one called "Give My Regards to Broadway" which is also good. As far as Edmundo's singing, well, for me it's a small price to pay for what are otherwise pretty great records. And it's not all that bad, either. It just sounds like someone's pinching his nose while he sings. Plus he usually only does it on one or two tracks. I have found a Ros album to avoid called "The NEW Rhythm of the South" which is a rather drab affair, (interestingly, he does not sing on this one!) but then, every Phase Four I've found with the phrase, "The NEW fill-in-the-blank" in the the title, is pretty dull stuff. - bruce ++++++++++++++++++++ Lenkei Design Graphic Design www.lenkeidesign.com ++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Re: New Finds Date: 01 Apr 2000 19:58:22 -0500 James wrote: > what's the store and in what city did you get those? The City is Montreal and the stores are several. The Roger Roger LP came from a store called Disquivel which is to me the best for interesting vinyl due to at least one of the owners really knowing his music and having an interest in the weird and quirky. They are one of shrinking number of stores here that actively buy vinyl. A few others (eg. Le Pickup and Primitive) also can be interesting but often condition is poor and prices higher. Disquivel at least prices records by condition. Another great store is Beatnick, primarily for 50's 60's and French originals. It is expensive but all records they sell are in good condition so.... There are many other stores here with cheap records but this city has a huge nuber of serious collectors and has always been one of the better places to buy more obscure music in. Just ask Allan Clark. There is no question the selection of French music (both the Quebec and France variety) is better here than anywhere in the continent. Still, Dusty Grooves manages to do awfully good considering! The other two CD's come from Cheap Thrills, a store that's been around more than 20 years. It specializes in Jazz/Blues but again has an owner with good and inquisitive taste. They have a wide range of suppliers and every so oftern I take the time to go throught the store and discover things they may have had around for years but I sonehow missed. They no longer deal in vinyl but for a few leftover Jazz or garage records they still hang on to. They also have a website. Allan knows the store well. It's certainly worth a visit if you've never been here before. Brian K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, April 2 Date: 02 Apr 2000 22:27:33 -0400 At 10:20 PM 4/1/00 -0500, cheryl wrote: > >Space Bop #89 Bop Bop Space Bop Are the following CD's, sure things for a guy like me? >DJ Me DJ You: Set The Controls "Rainbows & Robots" >Laurent Lombard: Sugar Boogie "Happyland" >Arling & Cameron: Shiva's Daughters "Music For Imaginary Films" I have a pile of 25 mostly jazz CD's that I'll be trading in on Tuesday. I'm going to get the Bobby Hughes CD and the Cinematic Orchestra one that I told you about. I just want to list of a few more to look for. They don't have the Ursula1000 at this store so I'll have to hold onto a few CD's to trade for that one. Anything else that's as "essential" as Tipsy once was? I know we've been through this before but I guess we're here again. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Re: Les baxter Date: 02 Apr 2000 22:28:27 -0400 Larry worte: > LES BAXTER - PORTS OF PLEASURE > So, my questions: Based on these ramblings what Henri Rene and Les Baxter > titles do you guys/gals recommend? Picked up Ports of Pleasure myself for a few bucks at my favourite local record store a while back. It's OK but far from his best if you ask me. Caribbean Moonlight is one I would also not recommend, despite other positive comments, but I guess it depends on which of Les Baxter's many "styles" you like. I'd happily trade my copy of it and Ports of Pleasure if anyone's interested. > Question two: Is Martin Denny's HYPNOTIQUE as great as the grape vine would > have me believe? Should I pony up the dough for the cd. The CD's gotta cost you a helluva lot less than an Ebay LP, I'd think. Yes it is worthy of owning... and you get Exotica Vol. III thrown in for no extra money. Primitiva is another favourite (also on a Scamp two-fer) and if I had the chance, for a decent price, I'd happily own Ritual of the Savage, Skins and The Sacred Idol, none of which to my knowledge have been reissued on CD. The copies I'd seen of any of these here have been consistantly in beat up condition and expensive. That double CD Baxter "Best of" set has too much of wht I already have, same for equivalent of Martin Denny. Not sure if either of these is still in print, let alone the Scamp CD's! Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Re: Breakbeat for Jazz Date: 02 Apr 2000 23:05:40 -0400 Nat wrote: > Yesterday I was in this record store and the clerk, a guy in my film, was > playing me all kinds of this breakbeat, sampley, jazzy trip hop, NOT house > music that was in all these different sections but basically sounded like > the same kind of stuff to me. > He didn't play me the Bobby Hughes thing but they had it. > Anyway I decided to trade in the few jazz CD's I still have and see if I > can get four or five of those expensive CD's he played me. I hope I've not been the cause of making a guy dipose of his Jazz records! Despite my long lost interest in Dixieland Jazz I can't bring myself somehow to dispose of the records... Seriously though, here's my suggestions on what to look for: 1. Various - Kinky Beats (Lacerba) UK 2. Ursula 1000 - The (ESL) US These first two should be .. um, easy to find. 3. The Bobby Hughes Experience - Fusa Riot (Ultimate Dilemma, UDRCD008, 1999) UK - Sure to make you feel less guilty disposing of Jazz records. My personal favourite. 4. Los Chicarrons - Conga Heaven, Bongo Hell ( Tummy Touch, TUCH 027CD,1999) UK 5. Jacknife Lee - Muy Rico! (Pussyfoot CDLP017, 1999?) UK 6. Mint Royale - On the Ropes (Faith & Hope, FHCD11, 1999) UK If you still have cash to spend - a bit more toward the House/Hip Hop side but... 7. Various - It's A Finger Lickin Thang (Finger Lickin, FLRCD1,1999) UK - 2xCD 8. Various FSUK Vol. 3 (Future Sound of the United Kingdom) UK - 2XCD You will notice most everything is from the UK which for us poor Canadians means simply "expensive"! Oh, and I can't take all of the blame for this rash act of yours... I have to share the blame equally with Br. Cleve... One hint though: This is one case where your (at least my) local record store may have trouble helping. The few things that I could get here were REALLY expensive. I should suggest CDNow and those ever handy discount coupons. These'll get you anything I mention here for well under US$20 each, shipping included, doubles maybe a bit higher. The last 30% sale helped even more. You have to hope customs doesn't open it up as CDNow have this habit of declaring values as the full price with a $10 "pre-payment". You have to then pay the dreaded $5 postal fee + taxes and send the real costs to customs for a refund. We've had to do this some 4 times now and they still don't catch on at CDNow in spite of our complaints! If you can get them locally all the better as most were long backorders at CDNow! I still think Nat's trying to make me feel guilty here... NAT, we should talk more about "future acquisitions" I think. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Fodder" Subject: (exotica) Friendly Persuasion Radio - Week of 04/03 Date: 02 Apr 2000 21:31:25 -0700 The Friendly Persuasion Show - Week of 04/03/00 Cool and Strange Music Magazine's weekly radio show on Antenna Internet Radio. http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm Get your RealAudio player ready and tune in anytime during this week to hear: 1. Bonzo Dog Band - The Intro and the Outro 2. Ralph Carmichael and Kurt Kaiser - We're On Our Way / Outasite! 3. Bill Joy - How Long are you Staying 4. Upper Crust - Back In Black 5. Throwing Toasters - Debbie 6. Lee and Paul - The Chick 7. Sesame Street - Up and Down 8. Rose Hill Jr. High School Band - Star Trek 9. Animaniacs - Wakko's America 10. Lollipop Train - Teenage Trifle 11. His Kids - What's God Like? 12. Laurent Lombard - Happyland 13. Stan Freberg - James Bond Spoof 14. Roland Shaw and his Orchestra - Goldfinger 15. Stan Freberg - Goldnoodle 16. Skip Heller his Orchestra and Chorus - The Raymond Scott Memorial Fake 78 17. Heywood Banks - Arterial Suicide 18. The Nutty Squirrels - Salt Peanuts 19. Ralph Carmichael and Kurt Kaiser - The Sequence of Events 20. Gene Marshall - Jimmy Carter Says "Yes" 21. Tom Jones - She's a Lady / What's New Pussycat 22. Squirm Grandeur - My Team Has Lost 23. Bazza And Fitzpatrick - Wouldn't It Be Nice 24. Syd Barrett (with The Beatles) - What a Shame Mary Jane 25. Bruce Haack - Song of the Death Machine 26. Lollipop Train - Fun Food Factory 27. Sesame Street - Number 5 28. Vijaya Anano - Desire Soars Up High Thanks for listening! Chow, Otis Mr. Otis F-Odder mofo@thebranflakes.com Jump into Cool and Strange Music Magazine online at, www.coolandstrange.com Issue #16 is out now with Spike Jones, Esquivel, Robert Drasin, High School Band Records and more musical madness! View past playlists, find out where to order what you hear, listen to show archives all at, www.thebranflakes.com/fp To unsubscribe from this weekly email, just reply and say, "The only kind of spam I want is the potted meat I dine on thank you very much" and you will be off in a flash. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Clark" Subject: (exotica) Music from Mathematics Date: 03 Apr 2000 10:51:28 +0100 greetings y'all Some folks were asking about the "Music From Mathematics" LP featuring an IBM 7090 computer playing well-known standards through a specially-designed "musical transducer". I have this LP. It was actually released in 1961 and not 1955 as someone originally thought. At least my copy says 1961. IT's on Decca (US) and Brunswick (UK). It was the brainchild of a (probably white-coated) tech at Bell Labs who no doubt spent months programming the big-iron machine. This woulda bin laborious work when one considers the fact that computer technology in 1960 was, er, fairly embryonic, and the methods of programming were very, very crude. I should imagine that punched cards, teletypes and quite probably valve (tube)-based circuitry were the order of the day. Imagine working with a valve-based computer. We're talking about a huge undertaking! It's truly a labor of love and I would say the LP is a fantastic achievement all-round. The sounds on the LP are what I would describe as "sci-fi" computer tootlings, whistles and white/pink noise type sounds. I will happily find my copy and post a track listing on request. Thermionically, phil dilemma # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Clark" Subject: (exotica) Drugs and cartoons Date: 03 Apr 2000 10:58:12 +0100 Steve from Spumco said, re cartoons and drugs: >"The guys who are driven to sit at their desks until late at night >creating fourth dimensional ideas are doing it with their brain, >not chemicals." I totally agree. Production of animation cel-by-cel takes care, effort and time far beyond the attention span and patience of anyone under the influence of "consciousness-altering entertainment products". best phil dilemma # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: the curator Subject: (exotica) Napster.com, Macster.com Date: 03 Apr 2000 10:21:31 +0100 I've used the Mac version of Napster on a couple of occasions and would be very interested to know how I can protect my machine from snoopers while I'm downloading. Replies off list appreciated as I don't want to start another war ;-) friendly Sem Sinatra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) A complete Venture Date: 03 Apr 2000 13:57:37 +0200 Taro HOSHIJIMA wrote: > On Sat, 01 Apr 2000 23:57:02 +0200 > Moritz R wrote: > > > Or the Rare Recordings, another Japanese LP. The Ventures were really "big in > > Japan". (Which brings me again to wondering, why are there - apparently - no > > Japanese Members in the Exotica List? Japan was always great for Exotica, > > think of Water Melon!) > > Though mostly lurking, I've been a Japanese member in this list for > about 5 years. I'm just too lazy to be noticed or just want to keep my > rare state intact :-) Great. I am so happy. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and cartoons Date: 03 Apr 2000 13:59:11 +0200 Phil Clark wrote: > Steve from Spumco said, re cartoons and drugs: > > >"The guys who are driven to sit at their desks until late at night > >creating fourth dimensional ideas are doing it with their brain, > >not chemicals." > > I totally agree. Production of animation cel-by-cel takes care, effort and > time far beyond the attention span and patience of anyone under the > influence of > "consciousness-altering entertainment products". Altough I had decided to discuss this off-list with Stephen (very nicely, btw), now this post forces my intelligence to answer on-list once more. The contradiction between drugs and brain is not existing. I really don't know what kind of incredible truth you have told us here. Even drug-users have a brain - and use it. And as for the (non-existing) contradiction between drug-experiences and hard concentrated work, come on! I can't believe you mean this seriously. Nobody spoke of working under the direct influence of drugs. A year has 8760 hours; if I spend, say, 50 of them with psychedelic drugs, I still have 8710 to sleep and work, i.e. anything up to 6000 hours to work as concentrated and sober as I want. How come the apostels of a drug-free society always feel so safe to base their arguments on such nonsense? Apparently NOT taking drugs doesn't much to expand conciousness. Why does all of this make me so mad? Because I don't want our world, where at least some freedoms have been achieved through the fight of many people over a couple of years, is drawn back into a dark age of McCarthyism with or without the unvoluntary help of people who mindlessly repeat superfluous statements we have heard a million times before. I wish they would at least take a look around themselves to realize in what kind of company they move with their "arguments". Mo (this subject is finished for me) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Barry Gray Supermarionation themes Date: 03 Apr 2000 09:13:20 -0400 >Watch for the 1966 feature film, "Thunderbirds Are Go". >There's a second feature called, I think, "Thunderbird 6". But I don't >recall that one being as much fun. F.A.B. reply: For the most part, this is true although a disappointment for me on both counts is that I got no countdown, drum roll bridge and original theme music on either of them. "T.A.G." has a marching band at the end doing the theme, but it just isn't the same. Some would (wood?) argue that Cliff Richards is really as stiff in the movie as he is in real life, but... If you can, find the original episodes used on video for the original theme music. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) A jaunt to St. Louis... Date: 03 Apr 2000 09:38:24 -0400 I just drove back from St. Louis and boy are my wheels tired! Ah hahahahhahaha... Heh. *ahem* Gotta rework that one. In any case, the King's English (that's the band I'm in; I play guitar and harmonica) rolled into St. Louis and played on a double bill with Thee Lordly Serpents. After they played their brand of garage, we stepped up to get our message to the kids via garage, Nederbiet and R&B. It was a great time and we were well-received, if a hair on the ill-attended side. I have my voice all the way back to-day. I know what you're thinking, Mr. and Ms. Exoticat: what records did I buy? Well, I finally found a copy of the Third Woody Allen Album, which has ten minutes of material unavailable elsewhere. However, the great surprise in the haul was a Larry Adler 10", Adler Plays Spanish and Slavonic Dances. Adler was and is one of the premier harmonica players alive and these renditions of Albeniz, Manuel De "Rufus On" Falla and others were just him accompanied by piano and there is not a bad song on it. All six are absolute gems. A wonderful and truly exotic good time. Price paid at St. Louis' Vintage Vinyl: 99 cents! Go to Euclid Records at http://www.euclidrecords.com (that's how I knew about the Woody Allen, for which I have been searching on and off for about 15 years) but Vintage Vinyl is a bit of a bust for Exotic tastes. I JUST drove back....no I just DROVE ba...dang I just drove back from SAINT Lou..., Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits] Ed McCurdy, Wayne McAllister Date: 03 Apr 2000 09:42:03 -0400 NEW YORK (AP) -- Ed McCurdy, a leading 1950s folk music figure whose songs were recorded by Johnny Cash, Arlo Guthrie and Joan Baez, has died. He was 81. McCurdy died March 23 in Halifax, Novia Scotia. McCurdy, the son of a farmer, left his home in Willow Hill, Pa., for New York and a singing career at age 18. After a failed bid at becoming a Frank Sinatra-style nightclub singer, McCurdy turned to folk music during the 1940s. In 1950, he headlined a series of shows at New York's Village Vanguard and released his first album, ``Ed McCurdy Sings Songs of the Canadian Maritimes.'' He later signed a deal with Elektra Records, where he collaborated with another influential folk singer, Ramblin' Jack Elliott. Eventually, his songs were recorded by a variety of artists that included Cash, Guthrie, Baez, Pete Seeger, and Simon and Garfunkel. After his music career waned, McCurdy moved to Nova Scotia in 1984 and became a character actor on Canadian television dramas. http://elvispelvis.com/edmccurdy.htm ------- Architect Wayne McAllister Dead at 92 LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Wayne McAllister, one of the West's great unsung architects whose work included landmark casinos on the Las Vegas Strip and one of the first Bob's Big Boy restaurants, died March 22 after falling and striking his head, said Chris Nichols, an architectural preservationist. He was 92. McAllister's use of neon and streamlined curves graced many buildings and won him the praise of architectural historians. His design for the Bob's Big Boy restaurant in the Toluca Lake district of Los Angeles -- the third Bob's built and the oldest still in existence -- prompted the Los Angeles Conservancy's Modern Committee to lead a campaign in 1992 to have it declared a California State Point of Historical Interest. In 1941, McAllister set the tone for the Las Vegas Strip when he designed the El Rancho Hotel dude ranch, which featured chuck wagon murals, rambling bungalows and a "cowpoke" casino. He later worked on the original plans for the Desert Inn, and designed the Fremont and Horseshoe hotel casinos, which still stand. See also: http://nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/obit-w-mcallister.html Wayne McAllister, 92, West Coast Architect Who Elevated the Drive-in Restaurant By WILLIAM H. HONAN,NYTimes # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chuck Collazzi" Subject: RE: (exotica) compleat Ventures? Date: 03 Apr 2000 11:29:54 -0400 On the topic of Ventures LPs which were big in Japan, I was surprised to learn that the actual Ventures hired studio musicians to play all the guitar parts on at least some of these albums, while they sat in the booth twiddling with the controls. Although they were totally ignored in the USA at the time--I think this was in the mid-70's, more or less-- they were (apparently) doing very well financially. (Sorry if this is common knowledge, I only know about this because I was hired to do this on at least one of these Japanese releases. It was in a funky little studio in Studio City, Calif.) The downside of the Ventures is (unfortunately) they inadvertantly exposed and helped facilitate the dumbing-down of American culture (e.g., compare the Ventures' version of Walk Don't Run with the original Johnny Smith recording.) Regards to all, Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lewis" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Les baxter Date: 03 Apr 2000 08:52:13 PDT "Brian Karasick" wrote: >That double CD Baxter "Best >of" set has too much of wht I already have, same for equivalent of >Martin >Denny. Not sure if either of these is still in print, let >alone the Scamp >CD's! All are listed as 'available' at the towerrecords.com website, though only in low quantities. If the reader is interested in either the Denny or Baxter double-sets you are advised to acquire them post-haste, as EMI has been folded into the Time-Warner conglomerate. Technically all Capitol-EMI product is currently without distribution, and music retailers are waiting for the other shoe to drop, whether existing stock simply needs to be re-barcoded or there will be a massive recall on everything. I doubt this will mean The Beatles and Garth Brooks will disappear from the shelves, but it's anyone's guess if obscure (and expensive) doubles such as the Denny and Baxter will survive the transition. Uncle Dave Lewis uncledavelewis@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Karches Subject: (exotica) Edmundo Ros Date: 03 Apr 2000 13:04:30 -500 "Heading South of the Border" is one of my favorite Ros albums. It has a classic cha-cha-cha version of "Light My Fire". Other covers on the album include "Hey, Jude" and "With a Little Help from My Friends". Just about every cut on this record is good. For the pure latin stuff "Latin Hits I Missed" is pretty good. What I have always enjoyed about Ros is the combination of a great band and questionable choices of material. The dreadful singing always provides some comic relief. I buy every Ros album I come across and usually find something enjoyable about every one. Adios, Tom -- Tom Karches Information Technology, Web Services North Carolina State University twk@ncsu.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) latest Spinning on Air shows Date: 03 Apr 2000 13:12:52 -0400 Go to the following link for RealAudio archives of the latest Spinning On Air shows (descriptions follow): http://wnyc.org/musicculture/spinning/SOAaudioNew.html -Lou lousmith@pipeline.com March 31, 2000 Ayuo is a Japanese composer who grew up in New York, and plays celtic harp, hurdy-gurdy, and sitar-guitar. His music ties together some of the ancient underlying strands of the world's music, resulting in a sonically sensuous weave. On this program we listen to his new Tzadik release, "Izutsu," and call him up in Tokyo to talk about his music. March 24, 2000 That elegant instrumental hero of classical music, the cello, is heard in unusual contexts: featured are performances by cellist-composers such as Fred Katz, Arthur Russell, Hank Roberts, Robert Een, Peter Lewy, and others, plus selections from a tribute to the late New York downtown cellist Tom Cora. March 17, 2000 Two very old Irish traditions are represented on this St. Patrick's Day edition of the show: the a cappella singing style known as "sean nos" is presented by the voice of Joe Heany, and Bat Burns, Irish raconteur, tells us about the Gaelic language and recounts some old Irish stories. March 10, 2000 That noble musical creature, the accordion, is featured. In contrast to common assumption, the accordion is an instrument, not a kind of music. Several horizon-expanding accordionists are heard: Mat Mathews, Bratko Bibic, Dom Frontiere, Vladimir Denissenkov, Guy Klucevsek, Will Holshouser, and more. March 3, 2000 George Duning's music brought charm and poignancy to such films as Picnic; Bell, Book, and Candle; Houseboat; Any Wednesday; The 3:10 to Yuma; and even Mr. Magoo's 1001 Arabian Nights. We hear from all those film scores on this program, which aired just a few days after Duning's death. February 25, 2000 During WNYC's fundraiser, a variety of music: Brazilian troubadour Xangai, Austrian composer Max Nagl, songwriters Michael Holt and Brian Dewan, unreleased music by the Raymond Scott Orchestrette, Charles Albertine & Larry Elgart's "Barefoot Ballerina," and more. February 18, 2000 Because he was an arranger for Frank Sinatra, you might expect that Gordon Jenkins' music would be pretty mainstream. In a way, it is-- and, in a way, it's really weird. This show features two of Jenkin's ambitious and peculiar musicals for records: "Seven Dreams" and "Manhattan Tower." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: Fwd: Re: (exotica) Re: New Finds Date: 03 Apr 2000 17:18:01 GMT >Thanks, Brian. It's been wayyyy too long (3 years) since I've been in >Montreal, and that's too bad because I love the city. I'll have to try and >head up there this summer. I remember going to Primitive and Disquivel >(which IS really good, you're right). I also remember this record >store/used bookstore a little ways north, I forget the name but maybe it >was on the same street as Primitive. I found some Yma Sumacs for cheap but >later sold them. I also remember a huge thrift store with almost a >wharehouse full of records for dirt cheap -- i found some great stuff there >too. > >ah but now I'm just reminiscing about the good ole days... >cheers >jb ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Key of Z: book & CD Date: 03 Apr 2000 13:24:46 -0400 Our pal Irwin Chusid's book, Songs in the Key of Z, now has a web site: http://www.keyofz.com/keyofz/index.htm The cool news is that, like Incredibly Strange Music, his book will be accompanied by a CD. The track list is at the above URL (I'm proud to have contributed Cousin Mosquito version 1), and can be ordered at the following URL: http://www.whichsight.com/order.htm -Lou (unpaid shill) lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) Make your own Records at home Date: 03 Apr 2000 19:31:49 +0200 (MEST) Sounds interesting for Vinyl Fans: VRX-2000: Vinyl Recorder, not much bigger than a normal Record Player IS IN WORK After extensive research and many meetings worldwide, Vestax have realized that there has been a major gap in the DJ market for a recording device for DJ use. There have been many efforts by other manufacturers to capture the attention of the world’s DJ’s with new formats and fancy gimmicks, but the truth still remains: Vinyl is the only real format for mixing DJ’s With this in mind our best technicians have been working all the hours available in order to produce a machine with the specification that meets the demands of professional DJ’s and recording studios. The VRX-2000 is that machine. DJ’s can record their own music to vinyl. The process of getting new music onto vinyl for DJ use has now been made easier. Various sounds and loops can be compiled to vinyl for DJ’s to use in their sets. This will reduce the amount of records needed in DJ battle situations. It will also allow DJ’s to have their own personalized mixing tools made up of specific sounds unique to the user. The newest music on MP3, tape or CD can now be utilized for DJ performance. Our new specially developed vinyl has been designed especially to withstand heavy DJ use, including scratching, making this new format much better than standard acetates or Dub-plates for DJ’s. http://www.vestax.co.uk/flash/ -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Edmundo Date: 03 Apr 2000 11:01:31 -0700 (PDT) SLarry said something like "From following those posts it seemed that most were not to impressed with his records and I stayed away from them." I think though Larry that the general consensus was not that he sucked, but that he was no Perez Prado. I imagine though that he is still fun to listen to. Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Edmundo Date: 03 Apr 2000 14:07:05 -0400 Just stay away from his "South of the Border".......... - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dan hill Subject: (exotica) bobby trafalgar Date: 03 Apr 2000 20:48:58 +0100 bobby trafalgar http://paper.state51.co.uk/people/bobbytrafalgar.html Remember when all car models didn't look alike? Further more they looked great and had great names like Karmann Ghia and Alfa Romeo Julietta Spider (we will never pretend to want something named Hyundai -- ever!) They also came with 8-track cassette players "for the quintessential sound and comfort on the road ". Well this is the road to which we're heading once more, and like you never heard it before; not since the days of The Persuaders, transcendental meditation, Roy Lichtenstein, Carnaby Street, Shaft's Big Score, Scandinavian sex reports (or even German schoolgirl ones ), the Italian Gallio fever, Art Vandalay, Bert Kampfaert and Peter Thomas! Recent years have seen a resurgence in this unique era in culture as film festivals, video re-issues and cd compilations are showing, what once was considered trash is now high pop art. The cd collections have helped those who cannot afford the silly prices paid these days for pieces of vinyl that once hung around in the bargain bins of yesterday. From books, magazines, tv shows, revival bands like Mike Flowers Pops and even the occasional hollywood project (Ed Wood & Boogie Nights) they rise form the flames paying homage to an era of a fascinating frenzy of genial gestures and psychedelic perfection. One of the true leaders of this ethos IS ..... Bobby Trafalgar! Repap's CD compilation is dedicated to this all but forgotten but truly ingenious musician of the wilder years this side of Sodam and Gommorrah. If it felt good they did it and the sound of Trafagar certainly reflects this. Little is known about his years as a Romanian native, but Trafalgar was born Bogdan Trefer in the war year of 1942. His family came from a long line of artistic and creative stock, all of whom would have little weight at the time of Stalin's regime. Young Bogdan still took violin, then piano lessons and performed in the Third Pioneer Brigade Orchestra of Bucharest in the early fifties, and was soon getting attention from the country's best conductors. Touring in the Eastern Bloc soon followed with trips to Paris and Berlin. Thanks to these trips he discovered jazz and rock'n'roll, and it was not long before he could hear the call of the west. It was at this turning point in 1961 that he managed to defect into West Berlin during the Ulbrecht celebrations of that year. He paid the rent first as a bar pianist at the infamous Klempinski Hotel, then as accordionist in "Die Josef Moosholzer Rytmusgruppe" performing in some of the most popular knackwurst restuarants of the time. He found his creative outlet during the late night jams sessions, where he often sat in together with like minded players, as the already successful bass player at the time, James Last. Through Last he was introduced to band leader Horst Herrman, at that time arranger for the Berliner Rundfunk, and soon landed the spot as piano soloist. Soon he was backing vocalists like Hildegard Knef, Zarah Leander and even Marlene Dietrich who took an instant liking to the young prodigy. It was she who took him over to London's Hammersmith Odeon and New Yorks Carnegie Hall as replacement for her then musical director Burt Bacarach, who was away doing songs for a new Doris Day movie. He spent 2 weeks in the vibrant new york scene of the early sixties with its art house theatres, beatnik lifestyle and around the clock music, it really stimulated Bobby Trafalgar. He heard Bill Evans at the Village Vanguard, saw 8 1/2 and Breathless and went to Andy Warhol exhibitions. it was 1963, the same year as the movie How The West was Won; it could have been the perfect title for the next chapter of Bobby Trafalgar, the thoroughly gifted and fully defected romanian pianist-arranger who by now had left his native name and country behind him, as well as the violin! as the Dietrich tour was now at an end, he returned to europe full of ideas and decided to try his hand at composing. Back in germany he got in contact with producer Wolf.C. Hartwig, specialist in sordid accounts of crime, delinquent youth culture and the horrors (as well of the delights of) sex. He wrote the scores to films like Die Jungen Tieren von St. Pauli (The Young Animals of St. Pauli), Ein Gorilla Im Haut des Madchens (A Gorilla in the Skin of a Girl) and Wagenwild! (Carcrazy!). These were the years when the so-called respectable names in the business mixed with the underground talent to interesting results, to say the least! In these fims one often saw international actors such as Gert Frobe, Horst Bucholz and Klaus Kinski enjoying themselves as they scared the clothes off different shaped starlets and models whose enthusiastic and exhausted screams always made up for lack of acting abilility. Trafalgar also did uncredited arrangements for Ennio Morricone and Daniel White at this time. Bobby Trafalgar travelled wherever his work took him and once again returned to the States in 1968, this time for a longer and stranger sojourn. The late 60's and the early 70's offered a no-holds barred way of life and a future of art that seemed limitless. Trafalgar released psychedelic dance records together with his backing band The Squares (in spite of this tongue in cheek name the group was indeed very hip to the most contemporary sounds), he went into different musical ventures of oriental as well as militant black jazz poetry. The Trafalgar Squares wasn't your ordinary group but also part of a commune with influences from Buddhism, existensialism, mysticism and ufology. The collective was formed in 1969 and lived isolated 150 miles out in the Nevada desert. After 18 months "The Temple" fell apart and the group split in early 1971. The bass player is now a mayor in a small Utah town. it was after this event that Bobby Trafalgar began to experiment in transvestism and during this period he discovered the Moog synthesizer which came to be his favourite instrument. Legend has it that he is seen in the lost Ed Wood film, Take it Out In Trade, as a madame sporting a pink skeleton around her neck but it remains to be seen if the movie ever resurfaces again. The rest of the early seventies is just as enigmatic ... 1976 saw the return to music from a five year hiatus with the movie score to the French porno film "Hotel d'Amour" by Francis Hulot starring Brigitte Lahaie and the lovely Kitty McBride, who also became Mrs. Trafalgar. Trafalgar later stopped composing again for reasons unknown. Rumours say that Kitty left him to join a lesbian camp in San Francisco in 1982. The last recording from Bobby was released one year earlier and then he vanished into obscurity. Other rumours are that he turned to the lucrative market of commercial jingles and later television infomercial music. In any case he should be heard for his unique musical vision in the many fields he pursued, some of which have been assembled on this collection. The era of the sixties and seventies was truly an age of nonconformity and true freedom of expression. This is for all of us who experienced those years, who took the unique zeitgeist for granted, the movies for taking the snapshots, those hip cats and the musical sounds in fashion -- well, it seems we woke up and smelt the eighties and the nineties in just a few weeks, or before you could say a-ha! And all of a sudden it was over, forever ... Thanks to a stroke of luck, sheer persistance and the fantasic technology we have today, many of these pieces of music have been taken from vinyl, film and 8-track then redigitised, remastered and/or remixed by Hakan Lidbo from Sweden. If you listen carefully you can hear the personality of the man 'Bobby Trafalgar' contained in these tracks ... wonderful!!! Jan Lumholdt - Sorensen Modern Culture Critic, Stockholm, Sweden http://paper.state51.co.uk/people/bobbytrafalgar.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: (exotica) KUSF Record Swap Date: 03 Apr 2000 16:33:52 EDT I know the KUSF record swap is in April, can anyone tell me the exact date? Thank you. Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) subliminal seduction Date: 03 Apr 2000 16:42:17 -0400 http://www.sublimtapes.com Are these kind of tapes the modern scientific equivalent of Space Age Bachelor seduction LPs? Has anyone ever heard these tapes, or their like? Just wondering how hysterical they may be. -Lou lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) KUSF Record Swap Date: 03 Apr 2000 16:45:58 -0400 Stilgloria@aol.com wrote: > I know the KUSF record swap is in April, can anyone tell me the exact date? Thank you. Gloria --------- The www.kusf.org site says: April 16, 2000 And on the right coast, the next WFMU Record Fair will be May 12 & 13 at the Metropolitan Pavilion in Manhattan : http://wfmu.org/recfair/ -Lou lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Breakbeat for Jazz Date: 03 Apr 2000 20:03:30 -0400 At 11:05 PM 4/2/00 -0400, Brian Karasick wrote: > >I hope I've not been the cause of making a guy dipose of his Jazz records! >Despite my long lost interest in Dixieland Jazz I can't bring myself somehow >to dispose of the records... I can just see you with the straw hat and suspenders too. I'm not sure if you're serious but I am very serious. The antidepressants apparently don't kick in till tomorrow, the patch may be working but this nicotine gum is hard to light. Maybe when the drugs do kick in, I'll hold onto a few of those jazz CD's but I doubt it. This is purely a case of vinyl vs CD. When I got a CD player and they were reissuing all this jazz - especially on Blue Note - which I never thought I would see, I know that I wasn't the only one to go a bit crazy. Most of it is gone by now and part of the reason has to do with Blue Note itself. It turns out that having fewer BN records is a good thing. The more you get, the more generic they ALL start to seem. (With the exception of a few Jackie McLean records.) Not to return to an old issue but if you listen to too many Blue Note records, the myth of improvisation starts to become a bit stale. But the point is, I hardly ever listen to jazz anymore. And if I want to hear it, I can play an LP of which I still have plenty. Even though the vinyl jazz is also due for another purging. I kept a couple of Coltrane CD's. A digital copy of my all time favourite jazz record which I still have on vinyl too. It's funny. I had this idea that the jazz CD's were there if "women" came over and I could just "slap it on and forget it". As it turned out, the first woman to really test that theory DID prefer CD's to LP's. But even though she still comes over, that's not a good enough reason to keep em. I've run out of licorice. And I'm having trouble finding a baby carrot with the right circumference. Gotta go. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and cartoons Date: 03 Apr 2000 20:03:32 -0400 At 01:59 PM 4/3/00 +0200, Moritz R wrote: > >Why does all of this make me so mad? Because I don't want our world, where at >least some freedoms have been achieved through the fight of many people over a >couple of years, is drawn back into a dark age of McCarthyism with or without >the unvoluntary help of people who mindlessly repeat superfluous statements we >have heard a million times before. I wish they would at least take a look >around themselves to realize in what kind of company they move with their >"arguments". I sympathize Mo. And I'm glad for your passion on this subject. I bet other people agree with you but there's SO much brainwashing out there now that even people who know the "truth" are tired of arguing against the propaganda. Try telling some of those kids that sex does not equal AIDS. Or that taking drugs does not lead directly to a permanent state of Cheech and Chong-ism. You think of McCarthyism. I think of Dragnet. The episode where the kid takes LSD and jumps off a building, thinking she can fly. Anyway, speaking as one who's trying to quit smoking, I had no idea all these years what a powerful drug I was on. In the end I think it's going to be the physical habit that I have the hardest time getting over. The reaching for, lighting, holding in my hand etc. But when I saw the rage and sadness and irritability that washed over me for the last couple of days, even with a delivery system on my arm, I realized I was HIGH - or low - the last 25 years. I didn't do animation high on drugs but while we're here, that's also total bullshit that somehow animation is this fine and exacting work that only the most sober mind can accomplish. I know plenty of successful animators who got high. It's embarrassing to me to even say something so trite. "Like hey man, we were so high last night..." Which is probably why no one else has responded to this silly propaganda. I hope. I hate to be arguing in favor of drugs but in general I have preferred the people who got high to the people who never did. I prefer the people who got high and sorta moved on but that's another story. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: (exotica) Sound of Music Date: 03 Apr 2000 20:20:12 -0400 If one defines exotica as the crossing of musical genres into new and unexpected areas, then I think the following applies....... here's a British phenomena that is the result of a cross-pollination between 'The Sound of Music' with 'The Rocky Horror Picture Show' full story at...... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A63184-2000Apr2.html Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Edmundo Ros Date: 03 Apr 2000 23:56:21 EDT Ros was not one of the great heavy hitters of Latin music, but he did get=20 some good dance rhythms shaking on several occasions. I've noticed some=20 hostile attitudes towards Ros on this list, but I echo the previously=20 expressed opinion that I like pretty much everything I've found by him: Sunshine and Ole' Bongos from the South Rhythms of the South Standards=E2=80=A6in the Latin Manner This is My World Arriba Latin Boss Hair Goes Latin Latin Hits I Missed I also agree that his Phase 4 stuff is probably his best. Most of these are= =20 on Phase 4. I wouldn't spend big bucks for any Ros LPs, but if I see a Ros=20 Phase 4 LP between the Andy Williams records in the thrift store bins, I wil= l=20 most likely take that bait. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) F & T Update!! Date: 04 Apr 2000 13:19:57 +0000 Hey kitzles! Thought I'd point yer furry little noses over to the Ferrante & Teicher website, which is making great progress! There's a brand new 'memorabilia' section, which has, among other things, a hilarious sworn affidavit from 1952 documenting the fact that there were only piano sounds used on their wild prepared-piano recordings! Gotta see it. And join the new F&T mailing list to receive notices of updates, etc. Cheerio! Keith >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.artclik.com/twingrands.ft.html keeper of the flame for the OFFICIAL FERRANTE & TEICHER WEBSITE <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Sound of Music Date: 04 Apr 2000 10:04:04 +0100 Sing along Sound of Music was a great day out last year. Very very amusing, all of us dressed as nuns, with fake plastic breasts, drunk, singing along to Sound of Music with hundreds of gay men, children and assorted borderline-sane people. A quality afternoon out! Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) Ed McCurdy and Cheesecake Date: 04 Apr 2000 06:02:05 Noting the obit on folk signer Ed McCurdy, I had to mention that Ed recorded three albums on Elektra back in the dark ages. Titled "When Dalliance was in Flower," they were collections of Elizabethan and medieval English bawdy songs and madrigals, and each LP featured a cover shot of a medieval lass in scanty attire and some risque situation. My dad had all three. As probably did a bunch of other space age dads who otherwise weren't big on medieval folk music. I remember how let down I felt when I finally went to play on in my late pre-teens. Brad "With a hey, nonny, nonny ... baby" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robbie Baldock Subject: Re: (exotica) F & T Update!! Date: 04 Apr 2000 12:04:38 +0100 "Keith E. Lo Bue" wrote: > http://www.artclik.com/twingrands.ft.html I think that should be http://www.artclik.com/twingrands/ft.html Robbie Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Keely Smith on NPR Date: 04 Apr 2000 08:27:04 -0500 For anyone able to hear NPR's Fresh Air, check out the guest for today (Tuesday, April 4): Singer KEELY SMITH. She has been called "The Queen of Swing" and "the First Lady of Las Vegas". SMITH is perhaps best known as the duet partner and wife of Louis Prima. Smith and Prima drew crowds to the lounges of Las Vegas in the 1950s. Their hits include "Jump, Jive, an' Wail," "Just a Gigolo," "I've Got You Under My Skin," and "That Old Black Magic." Smith talks about her marriage to Prima, the music they made together, and her career. Smith has just released a new CD called Swing Swing Swing (Concord Records). Check with your local NPR station for their broadcast time. Eventually, you can also hear it in RealAudio at the Fresh Air site: http://whyy.org/freshair/ Thanks for the space! Darrell Brogdon dbrogdon@ukans.edu The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) Re: deixa issa pra la Date: 03 Apr 2000 23:14:48 +0000 > Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:14:58 EST > From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com > > They are playing a song called "Deixa Issa Pra La" on rotation at > LuxuriaMusic. Has anyone heard of this song and know where it is available? > Any info on this song and the person/group who plays it would be appreciated. Yes it's Wanderley, as Cheryl has already cleared. But I would also recommend the storming vocal version by Connie Francis "Bossa nova Hand Dance", easily foundable on "Cocktail Mix, vol. 2: Martini Madness", on Rhino. Just my 200 lire. Ciao Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Edmundo Ros Date: 04 Apr 2000 10:00:23 -0400 At 11:56 PM 4/3/00 EDT, Pearmania@aol.com wrote: > >Ros was not one of the great heavy hitters of Latin music, but he did get >some good dance rhythms shaking on several occasions. I've noticed some >hostile attitudes towards Ros on this list, but I echo the previously >expressed opinion that I like pretty much everything I've found by him: Two years ago when I joined the list I went after Ros. But I don't feel exactly the same way anymore. How can you hate the guy who did that tic-tac-toe-cha-cha version of "United We Stand"? And his "Light My Fire" is another classic of cha-cha-minimalism. At the time I went after him, it was only because I thought someone was comparing him a bit too favorably to Perez Prado. But at that point, I hadn't found any mediocre Prado. I might not make that argument today. Buy all the Ros you can find. Except when he sings, it's never terrible. And like almost everyone we talk about here, there's always a couple of better-than-average cuts. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) FW: Scott Walker's Meltdown 2000 Date: 04 Apr 2000 16:20:03 +0100 After several attempts finally got this. Not at all interested in Radiohead, but i originally asked for details a few months ago and I've only just heard about so Yah Boo to the RFH. Anyway for anyone interested in it here it is. There are actually more interesting things going on there anyway (Yo La Tenga, Ute Lemper). El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > ---------- > From: Popular_Music@RFH.org.uk[SMTP:Popular_Music@RFH.org.uk] > Sent: 04 April 2000 15:51 > To: grr@bton.ac.uk > Subject: Scott Walker's Meltdown 2000 > > WELCOME TO THE > APRIL 2000 > ROYAL FESTIVAL HALL > CONTEMPORARY MUSIC > E-BULLETIN > > You are currently subscribed as <> > SCOTT WALKER'S MELTDOWN 2000 > 16 JUNE-2 JULY > One of the great enigmatic icons of rock is this year's Meltdown curator. > Following in the footsteps of Elvis Costello (1995), Laurie Anderson > (1997), > John Peel (1998) and Nick Cave (1999), Scott Walker's Meltdown promises to > shake the South Bank to its foundations. The line-up includes Radiohead > (SOLD OUT), Blur, Jarvis Cocker, Smog, Jim O'Rourke, Dance Project with > premiere scores from Orbital and a major new production of Samuel > Beckett's > masterpiece Waiting for Godot. > Tickets go on sale Wednesday 5 April 10am. > Full details: http://www.meltdown.co.uk > The Official Guide to Meltdown is FREE with Time Out 10 May > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: (exotica) Ultimate Breakbeats II Date: 04 Apr 2000 08:23:23 PDT Hey, If any you'alls are living in the Nashville Tenn. area there is a great show happening April 8 featuring Galt McDermott (didnt he have something to do with Hair) and Bernard "Pretty" Purdie along with some other heavy funksters are playing together. lookee- http://www.wrvu.org/events/ubb2pressrelease.html I live about 8 hours away and am thinking about getting out the wagon and heading on down. see ya there (maybe) -jonny ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gentlep@dircon.co.uk Subject: (exotica) Dougee Dimensional's Friday Night Out Date: 04 Apr 2000 17:04:27 +0100 Hello fellow Gentle Children, Dougee Dimensional here, back from the far east. If any of you groovers are in London this Friday the 7th of April, it would be faboo to see you as I am spinning a bit of an 80's set at illustrious bar "The Player" which is located at 8 Broadwick Street, London W1 (Next door to Agent Provocateur, you know, Kinky underwear?) The evening is free and very relaxed in atmosphere so bring your cocktail money and check it out. I should be on from 9 to midnight or something and the bar closes at 1am. Yours in gentility, Dougee Dimensional # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Frankie Burke Date: 04 Apr 2000 09:43:22 -0700 (PDT) I found something today that may be interesting: Jack O'Lantern Resort (Woodstock, NH) Presents Frankie Burke. Frankie covers Killing Me Softly; Fidler On the Roof; It's Impossible; And I Love Her So; Tiny Bubbles; Spanish Eyes; My Way; The Most Beautiful Girl; For the Good Times and Money, Money (Cabaret) - on electronic instruments. Here's Frankie: "Singing is my primary thing, with the synthesizers becoming another important part of my life. I really love them." The cover info also refers to "oscillators, filters, envelope generators, ring modulators and other devices." No dates, but I'd guess it's early seventies or late 60s (judging by set list and Frankie's supper club get up). And it's dedicated and signed by the man himself. Wow. Found Project Comstock also. A blessed day in the trash shop. Can't wait to get home with these weird new toys. For those I offered the Rudy Rosa tape to - Squire Burke will be on the flip. BW __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Sound of Music Date: 04 Apr 2000 11:24:35 -0500 The Sing-A-Long Sound of Music has proved to be so popular in London, productions are headed for New York and, I think, San Francisco or maybe it's LA. Bicoasters in the US, get yer liederhosen or nun suits ready. Anthony Lane published a hilarious "Letter from London" about it in a recent _New Yorker_. Y'all will be glad you tracked it down in your local library. Guaranteed have the librarians shushing you. Charlie, at the show you saw, was anyone dressed as "Tea, a drink with jam and bread"? Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) Re: Vinicio Capossela Date: 03 Apr 2000 23:14:48 +0000 > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:11:33 -0800 (PST) > From: chuck > Subject: (exotica) E Allora Mambo! > > Theres a movie out called "E Allora Mambo" There's also a sountrack from > 1999 on Irma La Douce. Its various artists old and new and the title song is > magnificant, really a great great Mambo, sure to send any mambo lover onto > a frenzy. Its by Vinicio Capossela, who is he?? > Any one know about this guy? He is a contemporary Italian artist. Just take a 50% of swingin' Paolo Conte, add 25% tango and 25% balkanian ethnic stomp, and you'll have your Capossela cocktail ready to be served! Prosit! Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Frankie Burke, again Date: 04 Apr 2000 10:18:48 -0700 (PDT) This is too much! The guy is still active. He is available: http://www.frankieburke.com/index.htm In addition to weddings and supper clubs, he does RV parks and mobile home communities. $5 to whoever can identify whatever that is standing very close to Frankie. Oh for the lost paisano thread: my lp is signed and dedicated "To Maria, The nicest Italian Around." Frankie, if nothing else, is one for an elegant phrase. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and cartoons Date: 04 Apr 2000 13:30:51 -0400 Nat wrote: > >I hope I've not been the cause of making a guy dipose of his Jazz records! > >Despite my long lost interest in Dixieland Jazz I can't bring myself somehow > >to dispose of the records... > I can just see you with the straw hat and suspenders too. A trip to New Orleans can make you a fan of this music... Especially when you see all these kids running around with drums or horns improvising at will. I strongly suspect a return visit will get my interest back again. Blues is another area I once lightly explored but haven't been back to recently. > I'm not sure if you're serious but I am very serious. The antidepressants > apparently don't kick in till tomorrow, the patch may be working but this > nicotine gum is hard to light. > Maybe when the drugs do kick in, I'll hold onto a few of those jazz CD's > but I doubt it. I think Will's jaw must surely be aching from the gum he still chews to this day (or at least as of last week!) As always, I'm only half serious but I do seriously appreciate what you must be going through! > This is purely a case of vinyl vs CD. When I got a CD player and they were > reissuing all this jazz - especially on Blue Note - which I never thought I > would see, I know that I wasn't the only one to go a bit crazy. Most of it > is gone by now and part of the reason has to do with Blue Note itself. It > turns out that having fewer BN records is a good thing. There was serious demand for Blue Note originals and I remember selling off the one I had for something rare and experimental. I don't think anybody believed they would ever be reissued. I was never a huge fan so it was no loss. In fact the one I had was from the Dixieland collection and of minor interest, I think George Lewis. > It's funny. I had this idea that the jazz CD's were there if "women" came > over and I could just "slap it on and forget it". As it turned out, the > first woman to really test that theory DID prefer CD's to LP's. But even > though she still comes over, that's not a good enough reason to keep em. We should do a survey - do women prefer CD's or LP's? I suspect the majority will go for CDs. I have my own theories why but... > I've run out of licorice. And I'm having trouble finding a baby carrot > with the right circumference. Hang in there. I'll have to try to keep you occupied with enough music so you won't have time to think about it. Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Spaceheads Date: 04 Apr 2000 13:42:39 -0400 Just heard this really interesting piece on WFMU by Spaceheads that was a cross between Javanese Gamelan music and Krautrock... a kind of melodic drone. Nedless to say, it pushed all the right buttons for me. Apparently the group includes Andy Diagram whose name I recognize from several late 70's new wave singles by The Diagram Brothers. Anyone know more about this group? Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: (exotica) Lee and Nancy sample Date: 04 Apr 2000 11:02:45 PDT does anyone know (apologies if this is a repeat i tried to ask on friday and didn't see it on the list) what the name/ details of the song in the film 'go' that samples 'these boots are made for walkin' is? i must own it. which reminds me, my copy of 'together again' by lee and nancy is a post oil-crisis 'dynaflex' record, ie, you could bend it double and it ways, maybe 60 grammes. it makes bold claims as to its sound quality and being the future of records. i've always thought, thin record, shit sound. to be fair i bought it in a charity shop and it's 25+ years old and sounds grand. any opinions? rob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Greenberg" Subject: (exotica) Frizz me the Frisbee Date: 04 Apr 2000 14:02:47 -0500 Okay - you members of the college of musical knowledge: A friend told me about a song called (he thinks) "Frizz Me The Frisbee." He believes it comes from a college variety show lp. Anyone know about this one and the album it springs from? thanks, michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Albert Fish" Subject: (exotica) Chiel walatghi and his afro-drummers Date: 04 Apr 2000 11:20:56 PDT Is for sale, stereo. Is it worth buying? How much would you pay? thanks heaps A. Fish ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "telstar" Subject: Re: (exotica) Chiel walatghi and his afro-drummers Date: 04 Apr 2000 15:20:25 -0400 > Is for sale, stereo. > Is it worth buying? > How much would you pay? Chief Walatghi & his Afro-Drummers: "Taboo" (Hallmark Records). The album has a great cover which promises "exotic rhythms of THE JUNGLE". I have a fondness for the disk as it is one of the first exotica records that I bought, that and the fact that it was released on red vinyl. But truth be told, the music is merely an ok exercise in African-tribal-exotica. I think it is worth buying for $10 or so. Curiously, the label credits the performer as "Chief Roha & the Afro-Drummers" which makes me wonder if this recording was recycled several times. Allan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "telstar" Subject: Re: (exotica) Spaceheads Date: 04 Apr 2000 15:30:03 -0400 Brian wrote: > Just heard this really interesting piece on WFMU by Spaceheads > that was a cross between Javanese Gamelan music and > Krautrock... a kind of melodic drone. Nedless to say, it pushed all > the right buttons for me. Apparently the group includes Andy > Diagram whose name I recognize from several late 70's new wave > singles by The Diagram Brothers. Anyone know more about this > group? I have the Spaceheads self-titled debut on Red Note Records (not sure how many releases they have). The duo featured Andy Diagram on vocals and trumpet played through electronics and Richard Harrison on drums. Fun in a "Blurt" kinda-way, but I think that you might find the outfit a bit on the abrasive side. Best track is "Eat the Machine" which features Matt Wand of Stock, Hausen and Walkman manipulating Spacehead samples. Allan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Frankie Burke, again Date: 04 Apr 2000 12:46:23 -0700 (PDT) This is too much! The guy is still active. He is available: http://www.frankieburke.com/index.htm In addition to weddings and supper clubs, he does RV parks and mobile home communities. $5 to whoever can identify whatever that is standing very close to Frankie. Oh for the lost paisano thread: my lp is signed and dedicated "To Maria, The nicest Italian Around." Frankie, if nothing else, is one for an elegant phrase. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Moondog Date: 04 Apr 2000 16:32:51 -0400 For all you Moondaog fans out there, a number of recent reissues: Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Moondog Date: 04 Apr 2000 16:49:39 -0400 Sorry for the last post. It sent itself before I finished editing! Anyway, for all you Moondog fans, and I know there are some on this list, these recent reissues. This catalogue is excerpted from an update list I get from Verge, a reputed Canadian retail distributor of experimental music: http://www.vergemusic.com KOPF RECORDS Germany Moondog A New Song for an Old Instrument OI-KD133017-CD Experimental 4015698910520 ($22.00 CD) Organ duets, Fritz Starfinger, Wolfgang Schwering. Organ solos, Fritz Starfinger. Works performed: Oasis, op. 11 no. 1; Single Foot, op. 22 no. 3; Mirage, op. 11 no. 3; Bug on a Floating Leaf, op. 11 no. 4; San Lily, op. no. 2; Frost Flower, op. 78 no. 5; Crescent Moon March, op. 11no. 5; Barn Dance, op. 78 no. 8; Elf Dance, op. 78 no. 5; Logrundr in G, op. 76 no. 23; Logrundr in b, op. 87 no. 22; Logrundr in D, op. 76 no. 21; Logrundr in F sharp, op. 76 no. 20. The composer Louis T. Hardin, also known as Moondog, was born in Maryville, Kansas 1916. He lived in New York for 30 years and has been in Germany since 1974. Moondog Elpmas OI-KD123314-CD Experimental 4015698910421 ($22.00 CD) Henry Schulman, oboe; Peter Wendland, violin, viola da gamba; Johannes Lies, piccolo, alto, tenor & bass sax; Gotz Alsmann, banjo; Andi Toma, guitar, voice; Louis Hardin, keyboards, percussion, voice; Akbar Huck, voice; Max Alsman, voice; Nobuko Sugai, recitation. All compositions by Louis Hardin (Moondog). =93This disk is largely a protest against our treatment of aboriginal people... If some of my music sounds like the Jazz of the `Swing=92 era, it is because Swing is North American in origin, coming right out of the drum beats and highly syncopated melodies of the Plains Indians, from the Arapho to the Sioux.=94 =97Moondog. Moondog H=92art Songs OI-KD330160-CD Experimental 4015698910728 ($22.00 CD) Moondog, vocals, percussion; Fritz Starfinger, piano. Moondog In Europe OI-KD330140-CD Experimental 4015698910629 ($22.00 CD) Moondog, percussion, celeste; Fritz Starfinger, organ; Klaus Konig, viola; Gabor Gui, violin; Ludovik Sandrik, violin; Bertalan Ikrenyi, cello; Guy Carmichael, Waldhorn; Malte Heygster, celeste. Works performed: Viking I; Chaconne in G; Heimdall Fanfare; Romance in G; In Vienna; Chaconne in C; Logrundr III, XII, XIII, IV, VII & XIX. Moondog & the London Saxophonic sax pax for a sax OI-KD943333-CD Experimental 4015698910827 ($22.00 CD) Moondog, percussion; The London Saxophonic: Tim Redpath, soprano, alto & baritone sax; Rob Buckland, soprano, alto & tenor sax; Simon Haram, soprano & alto sax; Gareth Brady, alto & tenor sax; Bradley Grant, soprano & alto sax; Andy Scott, tenor & baritone sax; Jon Rebbeck, soprano & baritone sax, piano; Chris Caldwell, baritone sax; Will Gregory, bass sax; Graham Cole, tympani; Chris Wells, snare drum, tympani; Danny Thompson, bass; Nicola Meecham, piano solos; Liam Noble, piano; Peter Balckwood, piano; Voices: Peter Hammil, Andrew Davis, Stuart Gordon, Bernd Kowalzik, Alun Thomas. Recorded in Bath. Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Moondog Date: 04 Apr 2000 23:02:02 +0200 Brian Karasick wrote: > For all you Moondaog fans out there, a number of recent reissues: > Brian Karasick > Physical Planner > McGill University > Montreal, Canada Tee hee. Almost asking, wether "Physical Planner" was published before or after "McGill University"... Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) F & T site... Date: 05 Apr 2000 07:46:38 +0000 >I think that should be http://www.artclik.com/twingrands/ft.html > > >Robbie Thanks, Robbie! I'm really hopeless with that stuff! **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James at the Details" Subject: Re: (exotica) Spaceheads Date: 04 Apr 2000 23:17:27 +0100 Brian said >Apparently the group includes Andy >Diagram whose name I recognize from several late 70's new wave >singles by The Diagram Brothers. Anyone know more about this >group? not about Spaceheads, but Andy Diagram has been working off and on over the last couple of years with David (Pere Ubu) Thomas as "Two Pale Boys". His trumpet with fx soloing incredible to see and hear. He also plays a major part in the D Thomas composition/improvisation "Mirror Man" (along with Linda Thompson & Peter Hammill amongst others) premiered here in London last year and to be performed in North America this year. best James # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) FB3 Date: 04 Apr 2000 15:49:56 -0700 (PDT) A letter from Frankie: > Hi Ben, Glad you enjoyed that record. It was recorded in 1975. Where on earth did you find it ? Anyway.., it's great to hear from you. I am currently performing in Florida. April 5,6 at "Century Village" in the Ft. Lauderdale area, & will be back at the "Beacon Resort" in Lincoln, NH on april 14th until next december 17th. Hope to see you. All my best, Frankie Burke _________________________________________ BTW: That lp is worth it for the electro-cheese version of Tiny Bubbles alone (which FB makes even wackier by occasionally singing "tiny boobies and the wine"). Catch a show if you can. Have a groovy time ladies and genna'men. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Great Scott! Date: 04 Apr 2000 16:33:05 -0700 (PDT) I thought that Raymond Scott electronic music CD was out already, but I don't see it at CDNow or Amazon. Anyone know any details? Thanks, Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Chenault" Subject: (exotica) Record Sale Blowout!!! Date: 04 Apr 2000 20:12:45 -0400 Hello Again Everyone, Please write me personally for my latest list of Easy Listening goodies. All records except for a few choice items are being blown out for $3 each. Also included is my Cool Soundtrack list. Thanks for the space, Jeff Chenault # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) FB3 Date: 04 Apr 2000 21:11:58 EDT In a message dated 4/4/00 6:58:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sophisticatedsavage@yahoo.com writes: << I am currently performing in Florida. April 5,6 at "Century Village" in the Ft. Lauderdale area, >> and he was there for . . . . . . the spring break crowds? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) FB3 Date: 04 Apr 2000 21:11:28 EDT In a message dated 4/4/00 6:58:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sophisticatedsavage@yahoo.com writes: << will be back at the "Beacon Resort" in Lincoln, NH on april 14th until next december 17th. >> now that's a gig! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lewis" Subject: Re: (exotica) Great Scott! Date: 04 Apr 2000 19:00:55 PDT >From: Peter I thought that Raymond Scott electronic music CD was >out already, but I don't see it at CDNow or Amazon. > >Anyone know any details? Try www.raymondscott.com Uncle Dave Lewis uncledavelewis@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TempoBlock@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Great Scott! Date: 04 Apr 2000 22:07:01 EDT In a message dated 4/4/00 9:58:25 PM, knucklehead000@yahoo.com writes: >>I thought that Raymond Scott electronic music CD was >>out already, but I don't see it at CDNow or Amazon. >>Anyone know any details? MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC. *is* available now -- but ONLY from http://RaymondScott.com For ordering instructions, e-mail: info@RaymondScott.com THANKS! . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #675 Date: 04 Apr 2000 12:40:26 -0700 exotica-digest wrote: >I didn't do animation high on drugs but while we're here, that's also total >bullshit that somehow animation is this fine and exacting work that only >the most sober mind can accomplish. I know plenty of successful animators >who got high. I take that back. I was thinking of *good* animation. Being stoned out of your goard actually *helps* when your job is cranking out Saturday Morning kiddie-crap. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204 Glendale, CA 91205 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Les baxter (The truth) Date: 04 Apr 2000 23:41:38 EDT In a message dated 4/3/00 10:53:09 AM EST, uncledavelewis@hotmail.com writes: << "Brian Karasick" wrote: >That double CD Baxter "Best >of" set has too much of wht I already have, same for equivalent of >Martin >Denny. Not sure if either of these is still in print, let >alone the Scamp >CD's! All are listed as 'available' at the towerrecords.com website, though only in low quantities. If the reader is interested in either the Denny or Baxter double-sets you are advised to acquire them post-haste, as EMI has been folded into the Time-Warner conglomerate. Technically all Capitol-EMI product is currently without distribution, and music retailers are waiting for the other shoe to drop, whether existing stock simply needs to be re-barcoded or there will be a massive recall on everything. I doubt this will mean The Beatles and Garth Brooks will disappear from the shelves, but it's anyone's guess if obscure (and expensive) doubles such as the Denny and Baxter will survive the transition. >> Allow me to correct the inacuracies in Uncle Dave's posting: 1.) The Denny and Baxter CDs are in no danger of being unavailable. The reason they are in low quantitles in Tower is due more to the Tower buyers' reaction to the lower sales levels they are reaching than in reaction to the impending EMI and Warner expected merger. 2.) The statement that Capitol-EMI is without distribution is totally false. In the first place the required regulatory hearing has yet to even have occured to decide if the merger creates any anti-trust or monploy laws. This is not expected to occur before June at the earliest. Secondly It is business at usual at both EMI and Warner's. There have been no layoffs within the distribution companies. To do so now would be from both a manpower and financial perspective like shooting yourself in the foot as it is important for every label within each of EMI and Warner's groups, even if there was no impending merger, to be as profitable as possible. 3.) As with the MCA /Polygram/Universal merger which occured last year, as long as a label is profitable it will remain intact. This is simple business 101 regardless a pending merger. There is expected to be some downsizing between the two distribution companies as a merger would not require two seperate sales forces at their current levels. However due to the increased size of EMI and Warner's combined catalog and new releases being sold, a larger sales/distribution force than either EMI or Warner's currently has is required. 4.) Needless to say, because of what I wrote above, no recall on catalog would be required. In fact this suggestion along with the idea that the UPC codes would need to be changed is absolutely ludicrous. Can you imagine record labels asking for their bread and butter profts from catalog sales being lost due to a recall! Can you image the reception chain stores would have if they were told massive amounts of their databases would have to be changed due to UPC code changes! Just as with the previous MCA/Polygram/Universal merger where no UPCs or product recalls ocurred, none will happen in this case. In a nutshell the only way these titles will disappear from shelves is if they stop selling in quantites to make continued pressings unprofitable. The initial investment on these catalog titles has been recouped years ago so on a per-title basis they are far more profitable than releases by new artists. Let me close by saying that exotica mailing list is useful to the extent that the information which appears in the postings are factual. If you don't know the facts please don't post what you think might be the truth without at least acknowledging that your post is merely an opinion. This is how falsehoods and unsubstantiated rumors start. Let's try to keep the chicken little postings off this list and make it better for everyone. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Great Scott! Date: 05 Apr 2000 01:17:54 -0400 Peter Risser wrote: > > I thought that Raymond Scott electronic music CD was > out already, but I don't see it at CDNow or Amazon. Dusty Groove's got it. ciao, cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) KoZ review Date: 05 Apr 2000 08:02:42 -0400 (EDT) The first review of Irwin Chusid's Songs in the Key of Z book. (Third one down the page.) http://www.eyemag.com/books_rst.html -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: (exotica) Chaino in David Spade Movie Date: 05 Apr 2000 06:52:05 -0700 Of all the strange places to hear some Chaino exotica... in the recent David Spade movie, "Lost and Found". Played subtly in the background, not so easy to hear (unless you know Chaino's stuff...) -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TempoBlock@aol.com Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) Great Scott! Date: 05 Apr 2000 12:42:41 EDT In a message dated 4/5/00 12:08:14 PM, tevebring@swipnet.se writes: >It=B4s also available, now, directly from the label that released it: >http://www.basta.nl/ =20 Yes, but only in Europe -- not the USA. =20 =20 BTW, Basta's new website is: www.BastaMusic.com =20 THANKS!! =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Louviere Subject: Re: (exotica) Great Scott! Date: 05 Apr 2000 09:41:38 -0700 hey guys, i pre-ordered 2 of those cd's and i have to say that its one of the most incredible things ive ever heard. just endlessly cool with a large variety od sounds. spoken word stuff (ala that shorty peterstein record i found recently), ad jingles (truly the coolest, spaciest ones ive ever heard), pop electronic numbers, and even a ton of great, GREAT minimalist avante electronic pieces. i really just kindof cant get over it. for $30 it seems like a total steal ! .WILL (showandtellmusic) > MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC. *is* available now -- but ONLY from >http://RaymondScott.com > > For ordering instructions, e-mail: info@RaymondScott.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rino Vincken" Subject: (exotica) The Trip Date: 05 Apr 2000 20:10:35 +0200 Hi, can anyone out there help me to get the video of the Roger Corman film "The Trip". The psychedelic sixties classic. Not the US version, because I cannot play the US system on my video. I wonna buy, or trade. cody@xs4all.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Pissing Statues..... Date: 05 Apr 2000 14:55:48 -0400 Okay, here'a an odd bit of recorded weirdness: From the book "Weird Europe" there's a female urinating statue in Brussels = that is sort of an attraction. There are "postcards and recordings of the = song "Song of Jeanneke Pis" available for sale - all of the proceeds go to = charity." Anybody heard THAT song?? FYI - There's also a male pissing statue called "Manneken Pis" in Burssels = also. - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Jobim Date: 05 Apr 2000 13:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Does anyone have the Verve Classics Vol 13, who might be able to tell me who performs each of the songs. Specifically I'm looking for the version of Agua de Marco, but I'd like to know all of 'em. Thanks! Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Pissing Statues..... Date: 05 Apr 2000 17:22:10 -0400 > From the book "Weird Europe" there's a female urinating statue in > Brussels that is sort of an attraction. There are "postcards and > recordings of the song "Song of Jeanneke Pis" available for sale - all of > the proceeds go to charity." Haven't heard the song, but here she (p)is! http://www.algonet.se/~jonas_w/reunion99/bra17.jpg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "The Back Ward" April 5, 2000 Date: 05 Apr 2000 21:38:57 GMT "The Back Ward" can be heard Wednesday mornings at 10 on CFRU 93.3fm in Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Comments & questions welcome. Also available in RealAudio http://www.uoguelph.ca/~cfru-fm/ Hello Sailor - Dudley Moore, from "30 is a Dangerous Age, Cynthia" OST Puppet Man - Enoch Light, from "Permissive Polyphonics" Star Trek Theme - Billy Strange, from "Dyn-O-Mite Guitar" Comin' Home Baby - Soulful Strings, from "Groovin' With the Soulful Strings" Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang - Franck Pourcel, from "James Bond's Greatest Hits" Shannon Girl - Tartaglia, from "Good Morning Starshine" Take a Walk - Shorty Rogers, from "Fools" OST Psychedelique Party - Patsy Gallant, from "L'Initiation" OST Sequence Four - GP & GF Reverberi, from "Erotica Italia" Main Title & Walk Through Hell - Joe Greene, from "On Her Bed of Roses" OST Strawberry Children - The Hobbits, from "Acid and Flowers" In The Room of Percussion - Kaleidoscope (British version) Colors - Kaleidoscope (Mexican version), from "Kaleidoscope" Che - Suicide, from "Suicide" It Was A Pleasure Then - Nico (with Cale & Reed), from "Peel Slowly and See". all for now jb ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) eBay goodie? Date: 06 Apr 2000 08:52:12 +0000 Browsing, and came on this...a $5 gem for the picking if no-one else steps in! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=298602119 Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Sound of Music Date: 06 Apr 2000 11:14:26 +0100 Charlie, at the show you saw, was anyone dressed as "Tea, a drink with jam and bread"? Mimi There were two people dressed up as brown paper packages, tied up with string. No joke! Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Danri" Subject: (exotica) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:23:17 +0200 Date: 06 Apr 2000 05:37:27 -0600 Hello, Is there someone who could help me with scanned covers of Mondo Morricone and More M. M; I don't have a scanner myself. Thank you in advance. Regrets Danri # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robbie Baldock Subject: Re: (exotica) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:23:17 +0200 Date: 06 Apr 2000 13:25:50 +0100 Danri wrote: > Is there someone who could help me with scanned covers of Mondo Morricone > and More M. M; I don't have a scanner myself. Thank you in advance. They're both on the designer's website: http://www.stefankassel.com/morricone1.htm http://www.stefankassel.com/morricone2.htm Robbie Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Ken Nordine and DJ Foot (Food?) Date: 06 Apr 2000 14:39:58 +0200 heard a nice new recording on the radio (don't know the song title) by one DJ Foot/Food (?) featuring the great Ken Nordine. anyone knows more about this, is it from a full length cd with nothing but Ken Nordine, or is this just a single? Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Ken Nordine and DJ Foot (Food?) Date: 06 Apr 2000 09:03:23 -0400 ADJ Foot/Food (?) featuring the great Ken Nordine. anyone knows more about >this, is it from a full length cd with nothing but Ken Nordine, or is this >just a single? The track may be called "The Aging Young Rebel" and according to CDNow (http://cdnow.com) there is an album called "Dubplate of Food, Vol. 2", although that may be a single, too. A sample (Hee!) of "The Aging Young Rebel" can be heard here: http://www.ninjatune.net/ninja/artists/djfood/ Here is a simple key: DJ Food, but "My Pal FOOT FOOT" :^) Sorry, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Ken Nordine and DJ Foot (Food?) Date: 06 Apr 2000 14:09:41 +0100 Johan Dada Vis wrote: > > heard a nice new recording on the radio (don't know the song title) by one > DJ Foot/Food (?) featuring the great Ken Nordine. anyone knows more about > this, is it from a full length cd with nothing but Ken Nordine, or is this > just a single? DJ Food were Coldcut, then Coldcut and two others. Now it is just the two others. Their latest album has this Ken Nordine collaboration track. http://www.ninjatune.net/ninja/artists/djfood/ should explain things after a little exploration. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Sound of Music Date: 06 Apr 2000 07:54:06 -0500 >There were two people dressed up as brown paper packages, tied up with >string. Lane describes a guy dressed head to foot in blinding yellow who went as Re, a drop of golden sun. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: br@interport.net (B.R. Rolya) Subject: (exotica) re: Spaceheads/Ken Nordine & DJ Food Date: 06 Apr 2000 12:11:37 -0400 (EDT) Brian asked about the Spaceheads: Just to add to what others have posted, they sound a bit like Ben Neill and his "mutant trumpet" but less drum & bass and more experimental. Although when I saw them at Victoriaville last year they seemed like a dance band compared to the other acts that were there! Johan heard a new track by DJ Food: This is from the new album "Kaleidoscope" on Ninja Tune. The Ken Nordine track ("The Ageing Young Rebel") is also available on an ep entitled "A Dub Plate of Food vol. 2". It's a great album combining elements of jazz with low-key hip hop beats and hints of dub. Someone recently mentioned Cinematic Orchestra; this is along the same lines. - BR Triage 212-989-4545 800-966-3516 br@interport.net www.triagemusic.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Ken Nordine and DJ Foot (Food?) Date: 06 Apr 2000 15:12:43 +0200 well, i've already received the answer in my mail box, in the latest "Other Music" update: DJ FOOD "Kaleidoscope" (Ninjatune, Canada) CD $13.99 RealAudio: http://userweb.interactive.net/~tomc/djfood.ram It's five years later and Coldcut's gone, but there's still plenty of fresh Food left. PC and Strictly Kev have persevered to offer us an aptly-named collection, in which their trippy beats refract chopped up orchestral soundscapes, loungecore, kung-fu fighting, pool balls sinking in their pockets, a Ken Nordine poem, samples galore, and more. Call it Snip-Hop. The sound's a bit familiar: they're definitely walking a trail they already blazed. But they do it with style and wit, making each of these 12 tracks an adventure every time it visits your earhole. What they had wasn't broken, so they didn't fix it. You've heard those mixologists who stole it all from these guys, so now hear the originals, masters at play. [AL] http://www.othermusic.com/perl-bin/OM/CD_Add_To_Cart.cgi?sku=62597810472&refer_u rl=email # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica)DJ Foot (Food?) Date: 06 Apr 2000 13:31:10 EDT In a message dated 4/6/0 7:52:09 AM, Quiet@village.uunet.be wrote: >heard a nice new recording on the radio (don't know the song title) by one >DJ Foot/Food (?) Its DJ Food, a "Snip-Hop" artist(S?). It's Hip-Hop sampled and culled together cut and paste style. I ordered one from Other Music yesterday. If you want, I'll ram my opinion of it onto the digest (I also ordered "Los Samplers Descargas", sort of on the same tip but with older Latin samples, not hip-hop, hopefully Tico quality) JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.J. Major" Subject: (exotica) To the Exoticans Date: 06 Apr 2000 10:42:41 -0700 Dear Exoticans, Some of you have no doubt noticed that I haven't posted to this list in almost a week. Before you consider celebrating that fact, I've several things that need to be said. First, to those on the list with whom I have remained on friendly terms via email, this post is most definitely *not* meant for you. I appreciate your friendship, your kindness, and your generosity in the support of my music websites and in being willing to share information with me in general. I thank you very much. This is what it's all about. If only everyone felt this way. I was recommended to join this list shortly after I had put up my Walter Wanderley site and I was assured that I'd not only find kindred spirits here, but that I'd find a lot of support from people who liked his music as well. In my own experience so far, that has most definitely not been the case, and the person who recommended this list to me for such a reason did so in error. I have really come to disdain the term "Exotica" or any such term like "weird", "strange", "wacky", "lounge", et al. to describe what is in essence to me to be simply _good music_ - regardless of the popularity of such music with the general public. It is for that reason, and because there are those on this list who have been (for lack of a more accurate description) _totally obnoxious_ in their replies to various messages I have posted (irregardless of subject) that has made me reconsider whether I want to continue on this list any longer. I have chosen not to continue on the list. --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography Tribute to Bobby Rosengarden The Salute to Sergio Mendes! The Official Claudio Slon Website (May 2000) http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) To the Exoticans Date: 06 Apr 2000 11:04:17 -0700 (PDT) I'll take totally obnoxious over entirely pompous and incredibly humorless anyday. Bye now. --- "B.J. Major" wrote: __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ark edgar" Subject: Re: (exotica) To the Exoticans Date: 06 Apr 2000 20:07:23 +0100 Well said Mr Waugh > I'll take totally obnoxious over entirely pompous and > incredibly humorless anyday. > > Bye now. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) To the Exoticans Date: 06 Apr 2000 22:42:03 +0200 Well.... as someone who you are possibly talking about, I want to express, that I feel that it's a pity that it should end this way. I'm sure there were some misinterpretations on all sides. The fact alone that we had controverse discussions should not make one take such a decision. After all I believe a list like this lives on the exchange of sometimes diametral opposite opinions, to a certain degree even of biting sarcasm, always carried however by a big portion of passion. If we'd all always agree on everything, *I* would long have left this list. It's a basic sign of a different opinion that you don't share it. It can drive you mad sometimes. Insulting others isn't justified though, and I must say, that I didn't like some of the reactions on your posts, despite the fact that I didn't agree with your positions. Looks like I didn't quite read between your lines what others read. All I can say is that any other list or chat I was ever in, had a lower culture of discurse than the Exotica list has. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Friday tv compendium Date: 06 Apr 2000 16:46:00 -0400 TCM has a killer triple bill Friday night. (eastern times) Detour (1945) The classic low-budget film noir. Careful with that extension phone, Eugene... TCM - Friday night, 8:00pm Thunder Road (1958) Robert Mitchum's drive-in standard. With theme song by... Robert Mitchum. Keely Smith in the cast too. TCM - Friday night, 9:30pm Freaks (1932) "Gooble gobble, one of us" (or words to that effect) TCM - Friday night, 11:15pm AMC is no slouch Friday night either... The President's Analyst (1967) James Coburn isn't Flint in this one, but he's as cool as ever. AMC - Friday night, 6:00pm Rebel Without A Cause (1955) Okay, it's a bit of a warhorse, but still has that eerie Nicholas Ray feel. AMC - Friday night, 8:00pm The Colossus Of New York (1958) Evil genius robot runs amok. Interesting minimal instrumentation score. AMC - Friday night, 10:30pm, 2:05am Or get the dirt on previously discussed Hero, Hogan: True Hollywood Story: Bob Crane E! - Friday night, 9:00pm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Albert Fish" Subject: (exotica) 101 Strings vs The Previns- FIGHT! Date: 06 Apr 2000 13:52:30 PDT "Excellent...." Whose "Valley of the Dolls" lp is better. Should I buy both? A. Fish "Finish him...." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) DJ Food Date: 07 Apr 2000 00:12:19 +0200 (MEST) > heard a nice new recording on the radio (don't know the song title) by one > DJ Foot/Food (?) featuring the great Ken Nordine. anyone knows more about > this, is it from a full length cd with nothing but Ken Nordine, or is this > just a single? There is a 4-track EP DJ Food A Dub Plate Of Food Vol 2 out on CD and 2x 10 inch from the forecoming Album Kaleidoscope on Ninja Tune -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - https://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) music makes children more intelligent Date: 07 Apr 2000 00:20:22 +0200 Found in the papers today: A long time study performed by German pedagogics professor Hans Gunther Bastian performed at a school in Berlin has proven that children with a music-oriented education have shown greater social competence, less vandalsim, less aggressions, and a remarkable increase of intelligence. More Lisa, less Bart, so to say. Let's all sing together: a wop bob a loo bob a lop bam boom... Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Danri" Subject: (exotica) CD graphic artwork Date: 06 Apr 2000 21:04:50 +0200 Hello, Is there someone who could help me with scanned covers of Mondo Morricone and More M. M; I don't have a scanner myself. Thank you in advance. Regrets Danri # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Renwick Subject: (exotica) Latin-American Adventure Date: 06 Apr 2000 20:18:38 -0400 One or two years ago, I corresponded with someone on this list, who lives in Australia, concerning the Ferrante & Teicher Sonotape reel-to-reel tape titled "Latin-American Adventure." I can't remember his name. Are you still on the list? Please respond privately. Thanks! --Mark Renwick Jacksonville, Florida, USA tibia@att.net http://home.att.net/~tibia # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Some last (still friendly) advice for BJ Date: 06 Apr 2000 22:47:51 -0400 Dear BJ, > First, to those on the list with whom I have remained on friendly terms > via email, this post is most definitely *not* meant for you. I > appreciate your friendship, your kindness, and your generosity in the > support of my music websites and in being willing to share information > with me in general. I thank you very much. This is what it's all about. > If only everyone felt this way. That is indeed "what it is all about". It would appear that not agreeing with your particular point of view would equate with not being friendly, kind or generous. I believe you are wrong here, in fact I'm sure many on this list would find this personally insulting! Rest assured on one point though; The sharing of information IS the reason for the existence of this list! > I was recommended to join this list shortly after I had put up my Walter > Wanderley site and I was assured that I'd not only find kindred spirits > here, but that I'd find a lot of support from people who liked his music > as well. In my own experience so far, that has most definitely not been > the case, and the person who recommended this list to me for such a > reason did so in error. We may not all be devotees of the man but I'm certain most everyone likes his music. I actually discovered him through this list and have since acquired several of his records myself. I have not heard any such negative comments towards WW himself? > I have really come to disdain the term "Exotica" or any such term like > "weird", "strange", "wacky", "lounge", et al. to describe what is in > essence to me to be simply _good music_ - regardless of the popularity of > such music with the general public. Who says weird wacky or strange are not, or cannot, be "good"! In most parts it's called a sense of humour! Laugh a little .. it'll surely do you good! > It is for that reason, and because there are those on this list who have > been (for lack of a more accurate description) _totally obnoxious_ in > their replies to various messages I have posted (irregardless of subject) > that has made me reconsider whether I want to continue on this list any > longer. I have chosen not to continue on the list. That is is your choice as well as your interpretation. It would appear you equate any opinion which disagrees with your own point of view as obnoxious, etc. Not to make a philosophical discussion out of this but I think you're simply feeling sorry for yourself. Remember this is also discusssion list! > It is for that reason, and because there are those on this list who have > been (for lack of a more accurate description) _totally obnoxious_ in > their replies to various messages I have posted (irregardless of subject) > that has made me reconsider whether I want to continue on this list any > longer. I have chosen not to continue on the list. That is entirely your choice to make. If this helps you justify your decision, so be it. I do not wish to debate the matter any further but I simply think this probably isn't the group of people for you. Remember the list is really nothing more than the sum of its members... and you must take the whole thing or nothing. Unfortunately, you have chosen nothing. And that is your loss... Respectfully, Brian K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Fodder" Subject: (exotica) claudine longet Date: 06 Apr 2000 19:58:58 -0700 Hello Hello, Does anyone have the parody of Claudine Longet that aired on Saturday Night Live in the 70's on video tape? If so, can anyone encode the audio of the skit into an mp3 for me? Reason I ask is that I am in the process of building an immense Claudine Longet RealAudio Gallery online. All clips will be encoded in stereo (except for mono originals) and there will be choices to stream individual files or play the "longet" radio! I have set aside 40MG online for this on my server. There will not be any mp3 files on the site though due to copyright issues (plus the space would kill.) This is also going to be an offshoot part of the Cuddle up with Claudine website at, http://users.deltanet.com/~gondola/longet/ Also, if anyone can help with encoding vocal bites into mp3 form from various television appearances that would be excellent and of course you would be listed on the site as a main contributor. If the vocal snippets are small enough, wav or aiff files are fine. I only ask for mp3 form because I can rip the good quality file and then encode various realaudio versions at different bitrates. If you can help as a contributor, email me off list at, mofo2148@speakeasy.org Thanks in advance! -- Otis www.thebranflakes.com www.coolandstrange.com www.antennaradio.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) To the Exoticans Date: 06 Apr 2000 23:04:58 EDT In a message dated 4/6/00 12:43:55 PM EST, bjbear71@mindspring.com writes: << It is for that reason, and because there are those on this list who have been (for lack of a more accurate description) _totally obnoxious_ in their replies to various messages I have posted (irregardless of subject) that has made me reconsider whether I want to continue on this list any longer. I have chosen not to continue on the list. --bj The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography Tribute to Bobby Rosengarden The Salute to Sergio Mendes! The Official Claudio Slon Website (May 2000) >> See ya BJ, Don't let the cyber door hit you on the way out! Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: (exotica) Disappointed ... Date: 06 Apr 2000 21:28:38 -0700 I have to plead ignorance to some of the events that lead up to the virtual equivalent of the tar-and-feathering of BJ, but I have to say the tone and tenor of the discussion became far too mean for my liking. BJ was one of the few people whose posts I avoided unless I was really interested in the subject-matter, so I may have missed some great, unforgiveable offense. But I would hope in the future we could handle such matters with more aplomb. This list is easily the most kind, least flame-prone group I have participated in, and I am quite proud of the way we all conduct ourselves most of the time, even when differences and controversy arise. On the net it's easy to forget that there are people on the other ends of the wire. (Sometimes silly, judgemental, obnoxious people - but people nonetheless.) I do not know exactly why things happened differently this time. I'm sure there are those who will be burning to educate me, and again, I admit that I have not looked back to see what the hubbub was REALLY all about and why everything came to such a foam. I read some of the posts, and she did come off as rigid and closed minded at times, but I saw nothing to deserve the confrontation she recieved. I don't mean to preach, and I do not wish to point fingers - I hope these comments are not taken as such. It's an encouragement to do better next time, perhaps. Mostly I am speaking up because it's been bothering me today, and I needed to purge. Thanks for the space. Ron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappointed ... Date: 06 Apr 2000 21:56:27 -0700 Ron Grandia wrote: > > I have to plead ignorance to some of the events that lead up to the virtual > equivalent of the tar-and-feathering of BJ, but I have to say the tone and > tenor of the discussion became far too mean for my liking. BJ was one of the > few people whose posts I avoided unless I was really interested in the > subject-matter, so I may have missed some great, unforgiveable offense. But > I would hope in the future we could handle such matters with more aplomb. This right where I am too... Kevin Crossman -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Manneken Pis Date: 07 Apr 2000 11:00:42 +0200 Found in the paper today: A Belgian beer was banned in the state of Ohio because the label showed the famous landmark of Brussels, Manneken Pis. The laws of Ohio prohibit the public exposure of obscene contents... bla bla bla... Let's all sing: "Down by the banks, where the waters flow...." Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Manneken Pis Date: 07 Apr 2000 10:25:04 +0100 Found in the paper today: A Belgian beer was banned in the state of Ohio because the label showed the famous landmark of Brussels, Manneken Pis. The laws of Ohio prohibit the public exposure of obscene contents Americans! You tighten your laws so tight that your little cojones get jammed right up there and you can't make any sense of anything. Love it! Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappointed ... Date: 07 Apr 2000 10:45:37 +0100 I too think its a shame that BJ is no longer with us. Even though she's a fiery little bitch (and that should be taken as a compliment) and seemed very tetchy and continually on the verge of a major rant, veering between unchecked aggression and major paranoia, I liked her contibutions and the reactions they provoked. It must seem to certain new dwellers on this list that we are a bit of a closed shop - set in our ways, with a history and a developed awareness of each other - but I like to think that we are a tolerant, level headed group of people (get me! All I know about any of you is derived from some black and white text on my PC screen and the odd tape of wierdness - thanks Ben!) who are pretty open minded. Perhaps BJ's departure is indicative not of our lack of understanding of her individuality but of her actual inability to settle down with us. Oh well! Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Manneken Pis Date: 07 Apr 2000 08:41:28 -0400 Hey, what was the name of the beer??? And now I realize where the hell those wacky, plastic, "boy pees in your = cup to fill-it-up" decanters came from!!!! Weird. Love it. - Nate >>> Moritz R 04/07/00 05:00AM >>> Found in the paper today: A Belgian beer was banned in the state of Ohio because the label showed the famous landmark of Brussels, Manneken Pis. The laws of Ohio prohibit the public exposure of obscene contents... bla bla bla... Let's all sing: "Down by the banks, where the waters flow...." Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original = sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Manneken Pis Date: 07 Apr 2000 08:42:28 -0400 Americans! <> Ha!Ha! You're so right!!! Americans are so uptight!! - Nate (an American) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) (AFP) Ohio bans Manneken Pis beer Date: 07 Apr 2000 09:41:17 -0400 BRUSSELS, April 6 (AFP) - The US state of Ohio is banning a Belgian white ale because the label features Brussels' famous Manneken Pis -- a boy urinating -- the Brussels newspaper Le Soir reported Thursday. The Ohio liquor control agency said no to the brew -- also named Manneken Pis -- because it runs afoul of a state law that prohibits images deemed "grotesque or in bad taste," the French-language newspaper said. "A little boy urinating: that's vulgar," the agency's spokeswoman Patty Haskins was quoted as telling Le Soir's New York correspondent. "Add to that the name the yellow tint of the label, and the product which suggests the color of urine.... It's gross." Manneken Pis the statuette has been doing his thing on a street corner in old Brussels since the 17th century, much to the delight of tourists as well as Belgians who see it as a symbol of irreverance. Manneken Pis the beer accounts for 55 percent of Belgian suds imported into the United States by the Paulaner group, which Le Soir said is appealing the Ohio ruling. The brew has "a soft dry taste and hints of orange," according to Southern Draft Beer News, an Internet site. Belgian beer has been part of a vogue for all kinds of things Belgian in the United States, a trend that has also seen New York City endowed with Belgian bistros featuring steamed mussels and French fries. But Mannekin Pis's run-in with the law in Ohio is not without precedent. In the 1990s another Belgian beer, Rose de Gambrinus, was banned for its label featuring a naked woman frolicking with Gambrinus, the mythical king of beer. The ban was lifted by the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms in 1997 after it agreed that beer labels can be considered works of art. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits] Mary Smith McClain, Terence McKenna , Larry Stevens Date: 07 Apr 2000 09:54:34 -0400 *Mary Smith McClain ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. (AP) -- Blues singer Mary Smith McClain, better known to fans as ``Diamond Teeth Mary,'' died Tuesday. She was believed to have been 97 or 98. McClain was a teen-ager posing as a boy when she hopped a train in her native West Virginia to begin a new life as a traveling blues musician more than 80 years ago. She went from singing at carnivals with the Rabbit Foot Minstrels to the Chicago Blues Festival, New York City's Carnegie Hall and Europe. She sang with such music greats as B.B. King, Duke Ellington, Billie Holiday and Louis Armstrong. McClain, who once had diamonds set in her teeth, was considered the world's oldest-performing true blues musician, appearing at local clubs until two weeks ago. ST. PETERSBURG, Fla., April 5 (UPI) - Blues singer Mary Smith McClain, known to her fans as "Diamond Mary," died Tuesday night in a St. Petersburg, Fla., nursing home at the age of 97. The cause of death was not disclosed. Known as "Diamond Mary" because of the set of diamonds embedded in her front teeth, her singing career spanned 80 years. She performed with Louis Armstrong, Count Basie, Cab Calloway, Ray Charles, Duke Ellington, Billie Holliday and Sarah Vaughn. McClain toured with the USO in New Guinea during World War II. After a 20-year hiatus from 1959 to 1979, she resumed her singing career. In 1982, she performed for President Reagan in the White House. McClain did not make her first commercial recording until March 1993. The record, "If I Can't Sell It, I'm Gonna Sit On It," quickly went to the top of the blues charts. She was noted for closing each of her performances with an up-tempo version of "Amazing Grace." McClain was born in Huntington, W.Va., and asked that her ashes be scattered over the railroad tracks there. McClain hopped a train in Huntington 80 years ago to begin her career. ----------------- *Terence McKenna SAN RAFAEL, Calif. (AP) -- Terence McKenna, spiritual theorist and author of several books proclaiming the virtues of psychedelic mushrooms, died Monday of brain cancer. He was 53. One of McKenna's best known books was 1975's ``The Invisible Landscape: Mind, Hallucinogens, and the I Ching,'' which he co-wrote with his brother Dennis. ``Food of the Gods,'' published in 1992, and 1993's ``True Hallucinations'' followed in the same vein, exploring the idea of consciousness and its link with nature and the environment. McKenna traveled extensively through Asia, Europe and South America before completing a self-tailored degree in Shamanology at Berkeley in 1975. ----------- Larry Stevens, the last surviving regular cast member of Jack Benny's NBC radio show of the 1940s, died of liver cancer on April 5th, according to his widow, Norma Stevens. He was 77 years old. Stevens had been hired by Benny to be the show's singer after Dennis Day, his predecessor, joined the U.S. Navy in November 1944. He left the show when Day returned in March 1946. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Manneken Pis Date: 07 Apr 2000 10:13:16 -0400 Nathan Miner wrote: >Americans are so uptight!! Allright then, Nate and Charlie, what do you make of this?: JEFFERSON CITY, Mo., April 6 (UPI) - Lawmakers say the lack of a bestiality law makes Missouri look "like some kind of backward hillbilly state." State Rep. Catherine Hanaway of Des Peres told Thursday's St. Louis Post-Dispatch her constituents want to outlaw humans having sex with animals. A hearing was held Wednesday on a proposed bill that would impose a maximum five-year prison term and $5,000 fine on those convicted of engaging in sex with animals. Hanaway said she will try to attach the measure to another bill during the legislative session. Not prohibiting bestiality "makes us look like some kind of backward hillbilly state," Hanaway said. Missouri banned bestiality until 1977 when the legislature rewrote the sodomy laws and accidentally left bestiality out of the measure. No one noticed until George Willard of Carl Junction, Mo., published a book about his interest in 1994, sparking jokes about the Ozarks on "The Tonight Show." Hanaway said she has received more letters, phone calls and e-mails on the issue than any other this year. "Once people get beyond the sensational aspect of this or the vulgarity, I think most Missourians would have a very difficult time trying to rationalize why this should be legal," Katherine McGowan, a Humane Society of Missouri spokeswoman, told the Post-Dispatch. The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals in New York estimates 3 percent to 5 percent of the population is interested in bestiality but few act on the urge. -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Manneken Pis Date: 07 Apr 2000 15:30:13 +0100 There was a great programme a while ago on the telly here about an American man who'd left his wife to marry a horse. It was the only state in the US where it is still legal to marry an animal (and I assume that once married, sex was OK). The man was really in love, and to be fair the horse looked like it had found the right partner. They kissed rather well! Anyway, Mr Louis Nytab, your example proves the point. By law in the US, it is OK to roger a goat, but not OK to show a statue pissing water, on a beer bottle. You all need to relax your nut clusters (thanks Col. Hugh Jampton/Brian)! Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappointed ... Date: 07 Apr 2000 07:49:48 -0700 (PDT) Ron, You're right. Despite my unchecked annoyance with the sappy sign-off yesterday, I said as much myself initially(though, ironically - and untentionally - insulting her at the same time, because I did not realize she was a she). Though I do feel that it's better to ignore someone than lash out at them, and that some of the ripostes were unduly harsh - I also believe it is possible to address people civilly, and to lighten up a bit. There was very little flexibility there. Not to sound like some Robert Fulghum geek, but everyday life tells us if we jump on people constantly they are not obliged to appreciate it, even though theyhave the option to ignore us. Now to absolutely forget about it all... BW --- Ron Grandia wrote: __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappointed ... Date: 07 Apr 2000 07:51:20 PDT > > But I would hope in the future we could handle such matters with more >aplomb. > >This right where I am too... > >Kevin Crossman > one of the many things i like about this list is its flame retardant nature. i did write while bj was on the list about something else complaining about the treatment of her. i felt some people's responses to her (admittedly, sometimes off the wall emails) smacked of attempts at public humiliation. i did not appreciate this. i have had disagreements with people on this list and have found it a joy to realise i'm wrong and that someone knows more about whatever subject it was than me. this learning is possible as people have not abused me, just my opinions when they are ignorant. this list also avoids the intercontinental flame wars (europe v america) that mar net traffic. we do slag each other off, but usually in good humour. the list seemed a bit ill tempered recently. perhaps it was something to do with that shriners thing i missed entirely (what the fuck is one anyway?). btw anyone know what that track that samples these boots are made for walking on the go soundtrack is??? rob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Manneken Pis Date: 07 Apr 2000 11:03:05 -0400 >Americans! >You tighten your laws so tight that your little cojones get jammed right up >there and you can't make any sense of anything. But we learned it all at your knee, Mother England. Perhaps you should keep abreast (titter) of some of the wacky new regulations the UK has been cooking up for the Internet. And last I heard, trying to import R.Crumb comics into England was tantamount to smuggling in nuclear weapons. All of us Anglo-derived nations have some cobs up our habeus corpus. Don't forget Australia's draconian new net content regulations. lifelong Anglophile (if it's still legal), m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Manneken Pis Date: 07 Apr 2000 08:13:38 -0700 (PDT) The crank on the beer bottles is only the prepuce of the bigger issue: we can carry big-ass guns around concealed (provided we haven't pulled a felony job and been nailed for it), but we can't see pert and harmless fun-bags unveiled on TV or in the papers or on the beaches (although there doesn't seem to be a problem with shaggy fatmen going around shirtless). Whose interests are They protecting?! Certainly not mine. It's that old work ethic thing, labor in league with death: the satanic mills rather than the elysian fields. Dead old Oscar said it best: "Industry is the root of all ugliness." God I hate work, BW PS: less industry, more skin --- Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@mckinsey.com wrote: > Americans! > You tighten your laws so tight that your little > cojones get jammed right up > there and you can't make any sense of anything. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) R.I.P.B.J. Date: 08 Apr 2000 01:24:01 +0000 I'll agree with Ron that this has been a particularly mean little time on the list. I was a bit surprised things got so surly, myself. I can't say I was aligned with a lot of B.J.'s opinions, but that's what makes the whole thing enjoyable for me...the breadth of people involved here in a fringe of music interest. So, I'll miss ya, B.J.! Good luck to you. Keith PS--I still think this list has intro'ed me to more cool and upright cats and kittens than I can shake a maraca at. **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Re: Man and goat Date: 07 Apr 2000 08:37:22 -0700 (PDT) nytab wrote: "Allright then, Nate and Charlie, what do you make of this?: JEFFERSON CITY, Mo., April 6 (UPI) - Lawmakers say the lack of a bestiality law makes Missouri look "like some kind of backward hillbilly state." Why should the State step between a man and his sheep if the sheep is not particularly offended? And speaking of offended - what about the hillbillies maligned in the Governor's statement? I hope that after someone reads them that pronouncement, that they get a lawyer and sue. There must be NOTHING happening in MO. Oh, and if you want to read about some amusing cases of goat and chicken love in the Victorian Old Worls, check out Dr. Krafft-Ebbings (sp?) Psychopathia Sexualis. Though ostensibley a compendium of psychological case-logs. K-E at times seems to be genuinely good humored about these very exotic aberrations. Baaaaaa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: (exotica) Re:Manneken Pis beer - whoops Date: 07 Apr 2000 08:41:29 -0700 Well I guess I had better start reading posts in-order. Now that I see how the thread developed, Lou does not seem so magical. Well, he's still a LITTLE bit magical... Ron >>Lou, how do you DO it? You seem to conjure-up news items relative to >topics >>of discussion as if the are an act of sheer will. I am beginning to think >>this news item came 5 days too late, and you are having one on us... Can we >>see the link to this story? (jk) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Manneken Pis Date: 07 Apr 2000 11:49:08 -0400 "Fun Bags!?!" Whoa! Never heard that one................. :-) - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Man and goat Date: 07 Apr 2000 16:55:29 +0100 Meet Roger. Roger the Goat. Baaaaaaa! +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: br@interport.net (B.R. Rolya) Subject: (exotica) re: Mannekin Pis Date: 07 Apr 2000 12:23:31 -0400 (EDT) I could go on for pages about this, but as it is a bit off topic... Pennsylvania prohibitied the importing of Mannekin Pis a few years ago for the same reasons as Ohio (apparently, they're 2 of the most difficult states to get beer label approval in, even if the BATF (notoriously difficult themselves) has already approved a label.) It took letters from the Belgian Consulate stating how offended they were that Pennsylvania thought that a work of art and national landmark was considered to be obscene. I believe that PA has since granted. A friend of mine imports many Belgian beers an has hilarious stories about the close-mindedness of the American authorities. Another great Ohio story revolves around a French beer (a biere de garde) called Les Sans Culottes. The label features the painting of "Liberty Leading the People" by Delacroix. The importer (who also has had a heck of a time with his Cantillon Rose de Gambrinus featuring the naked lady sitting on the lap of Gambrinus - artwork by Raymond Coumans) was concerned that the BATF might give him trouble since Liberty is bare-breasted. The BATF apparently had no trouble with breasts this time around but a few states did (in some cases - Missouri, I think - a black magic marker drawn across her breasts got him approval). Ohio was one of the states that found the Delacroix painting to be "offensive or not in good taste". He resubmitted the artwork with the breasts crossed out, but was denied approval again because it's against the law to portray military subjects! I just love the US! - BR Triage 212-989-4545 800-966-3516 br@interport.net www.triagemusic.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ark edgar" Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappointed ... Date: 07 Apr 2000 16:36:33 +0100 Although not a regular contributor to the list I do read messages from just about anyone, what I like is the non-political atmosphere, where most of the contributors seem to have relativly open minds, and react in a non judgemental manner. However having looked at many of BJ's postings within the last while have come across as all knowing and largely condescending. She seems to have an opinion on everything from toy keeping to moral decay because of drugs. A lot of them came across as matronly and somehow a bit smart arse. It is perhaps a shame that she is gone, however I for one will not be sad to see the end of some of the smart arse comments that she has made. Also a quick bit of anorakism bj has posted 116 messages since 21st january almost double the number of any other contributor. But toleration should be given where toleration is due, and I am sure that like many other people on the list I feel that exotica@xmission.com may be a better place without BJ... Kind Regards Love and Peace Good Vinyl Hunting Ronnie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappointed ... Date: 07 Apr 2000 17:38:49 +0100 I just want her back for her name. BJ! BJ! BJ! We want BJ! (well, I want a BJ anyway.....) BJ, are you still there? reading messages? Charlie (off to the pub in a minute, after a long day of hard work) +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Re: Mannekin Pis Date: 07 Apr 2000 12:43:04 -0400 Moritz wrote: > A Belgian beer was banned in the state of Ohio because the label showed > the famous landmark of Brussels, Manneken Pis. The laws of Ohio prohibit > the public exposure of obscene contents... bla bla bla... Someone (Johan?) must explain to the list the story of this statue, particularly how he has different outfits made for him from many countries. We experienced his Scottish highland outfit ourselves! As you probably figured, Belgians have a totally wacky sense of humour, certainly far removed from that of the government of the state of Ohio! Ohio has a history of censorship from many years back on some art related matters if I remember correctly. What I'd like to know is how it would go over in say Alabama.... Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappointed ... Date: 07 Apr 2000 12:15:49 -0500 Ron, you said what I didn't have the courage (or the time) to say with any eloquence. The spiteful tone of some replies to BJ's posts bothered me much more than her rigidity, which perhaps she could not help. It seemed way out of line with the routinely generous, playful atmosphere of eXotica. BJ was an entirely different case than that jerk Andrew, who clearly wanted to pick fights. She had *some* solid info to share, and she loves music as much as any of us. Isn't that what eXotica is about? Joining you in hoping we'll return to our usual discussion and that we behave with greater tolerance next time a temperamental poster subscribes to the list. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Manneken Pis Date: 07 Apr 2000 12:15:53 -0500 Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@mckinsey.com wrote >Anyway, Mr Louis Nytab, your example proves the point. By law in the US, it >is OK to roger a goat, but not OK to show a statue pissing water, on a beer >bottle. You all need to relax your nut clusters (thanks Col. Hugh >Jampton/Brian)! Charlie for Congress! (Read as a pun, if you wish) Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) re: Mannekin Pis Date: 07 Apr 2000 10:09:12 PDT to get further off topic, when i was leaving london many years ago we went to the dodgy off license round the corner and bought as many weird beers as we could, including these wonderful bottles of hong kong beer, which had obviously been reexported all round the world, with bare breasted women on them. covered in gold paint bikinis. the gold being scratcheable like a scratch card. see what i've won. naked picture of chinese women... very funny. rob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappointed ... Date: 07 Apr 2000 13:35:37 EDT In a message dated 4/6/0 11:33:28 PM, rgrandia@xtabay.com wrote: >BJ was one of the >few people whose posts I avoided unless I was really interested in the >subject-matter, so I may have missed some great, unforgiveable offense. I tend to read almost all postings and generally find them to use sensible politics, especially when a difference arises. That's what I find attractive about this digest. I can tell you specifically what I found objectionable about BJ.'s postings. First, she entered the list without taking time to find out who was on it and how the list tries to communicate. Had she done that she would have known that there is a significant knowledge base and an even MORE significant opinion base. With that oversight not in her mind, she posted from a place that said essentially "I already know one heckuva lot about this subject and I think I know a lot more than most of you, so you must incorporate my opinion into your thinking or you just don't get it you well-meaning, but poor witless fools." Her dogmatic finality on everything from soup to nuts regarding jazz, improvisation, drugs/alcohol, definitions, what we may or may not joke about, you name it, had that ring of "This Is The Final Truth" to it. And I think it was she that was obnoxious, not the other listees. And what goes around..............JB/you get as good as you give in this world # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Manneken Pis Date: 07 Apr 2000 13:37:47 EDT In a message dated 4/7/0 4:30:05 AM, Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@mckinsey.com wrote: >Americans! >You tighten your laws so tight that your little cojones get jammed right up >there and you can't make any sense of anything. Don't forget Chuck, we're all exactly the same too # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Manneken Pis Date: 07 Apr 2000 13:40:03 EDT In a message dated 4/7/0 7:42:07 AM, nminer@jhmi.edu wrote: >Ha!Ha! You're so right!!! >Americans are so uptight!! Why not beat yourself about the face and neck with a bat while you're at it? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Manneken Pis Date: 07 Apr 2000 14:07:00 -0400 What?....... >>> 04/07/00 01:40PM >>> In a message dated 4/7/0 7:42:07 AM, nminer@jhmi.edu wrote: >Ha!Ha! You're so right!!! >Americans are so uptight!! Why not beat yourself about the face and neck with a bat while you're at = it? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) mbube/wimoweh/lion Date: 07 Apr 2000 14:14:47 -0400 How long ago was it that we were discussing the evolution of Lion Sleeps Tonite from Wimoweh, and Wimoweh from Mbube? Anyway, there's an hours worth of RealAudio on this topic available at: http://wnyc.org.musicculture/newsounds/nsaudio/ram/ns1084.ram Program #1084 Theme and Variations: The Lion Sleeps Tonight ARTIST(S) / RECORDING / CUT(S) Mbube Roots/ Zulu Choral Music, 1930's-1960's/S. Linda: "Mbube" {3:00} The Weavers/Kisses Sweeter Than Wine/"Wimoweh" {2:00} The Tokens/Oldies are Now/"The Lion Sleeps Tonight" {3:00} Brian Eno/Vocal (box set)/"The Lion Sleeps Tonight" (Wimoweh) {3:00} Earl Mankey/Earl Mankey/"The Lion Sleeps Tonight" {2:30} They Might Be Giants/Apollo 18/"The Guitar (The Lion Sleeps Tonight)" {3:30} M'lumbo/Life After Death/"The Lion Sleeps Tonight" {6:30} Manu Dibango /Wakafrica/"Wimoweh" {4:30} Washboard Jungle/The Wash Cycle/"The Washboard Sleeps Tonight" {4:00} Arlo Guthrie & Pete Seeger/Precious Friend/"Wimoweh" (Mbube) {2:30} The Weavers /At Carnegie Hall/"Wimoweh" {2:00} The Wester Wind Vocal Ensemble/An Almost A Capella Songbook/"Wimoweh" {2:30} The Tokens/Oldies are New/Winoweh {1:00} # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) mbube/wimoweh/lion Date: 07 Apr 2000 14:21:47 -0400 nytab@pipeline.com wrote: > Anyway, there's an hours worth of RealAudio on this topic available at: It would help if i proof-read the URL before hitting "send," wouldn't it! This one will work: http://wnyc.org/musicculture/newsounds/nsaudio/ram/ns1084.ram # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Com Ed question Date: 07 Apr 2000 14:33:26 -0400 At 10:09 PM -0400 4/1/00, m.ace wrote: >I feel like such a trainspotter, but... > >Is the carousel photo in the tray of "The Impossible World" an intentional >reference to the cover photo of the We Five album, "Make Someone Happy"? Nope - - it was just one of the cool locations in Providence RI where the photo shoot took place (it's in Roger Williams State Park). I guess art director Stefan Kasel picked it because it looked good under the tray. cheers, br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Boogie Bob Date: 07 Apr 2000 11:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Picked this one up with Frankie Burke and Project Comstock. Finally got over the Comstock and put this one on last night. First of all the whole thing was recorded in a family restaurant. Side 1 is western saloon type piano cheese, but side 2, for any who like the Gil Trythall stuff, is C&W, jazz and boogie woogie tunes played very competently on the mini-moog. Go Boogie Bob. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Boogie Bob Date: 07 Apr 2000 15:03:08 -0400 Ben Waugh wrote: > Picked this one up with Frankie Burke and Project Comstock. Hey Ben, what you neglected to mention re. Frankie is that he is selling 26(!) different tapes of himself!! See: http://www.frankieburke.com/tapes.htm Here's the contents of #17: Hawaiin Wedding Song, Blue Hawaii, Tiny Bubles, Pearly Shells, My Little Grass Shack, Down By De Sea, Hawaiian War Chant, South Pacific medly...Bali Hai, Nothing Like A Dame, Honey Bun, Some Enchanted Evening, Beyond The Sea, Now Is The Hour and #26 is a tribute to Elvis! So, Ben, come clean on Frankie, should we be sending him a few bucks, or should we steer clear? Lou lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappointed ... Date: 07 Apr 2000 15:13:37 -0400 At 09:28 PM 4/6/00 -0700, Ron Grandia wrote: > BJ was one of the >few people whose posts I avoided unless I was really interested in the >subject-matter, so I may have missed some great, unforgiveable offense. But >I would hope in the future we could handle such matters with more aplomb. I don't think it's a coincidence that the first and only time, in my two years on this list, that someone had a hissy fit and then left in a huff, it was Ms.BJ. It was inevitable. I think most people bent over backwards to tolerate her inappropriate outbursts and holier-than-thou harangues. Somebody even publicly apologized to her after she objected to his characterizing her irrelevant post as irrelevant. I know I'm one of the obnoxious ones to whom she referred and while I'm not proud of it - even though it does remind me of making the substitute teacher cry - I must say that I only feel the responsibility of kindness towards those who exhibit some evidence of a complementary feeling. In other words I don't feel like I have to be nice to those who seem incapable of it themselves. I'll miss BJ. I always miss her type for the first week or so after they get run off a mailing list. But now that I'm not smoking, I probably won't feel the same way about the little boost I get from blood boiling indignance. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Louviere Subject: (exotica) religious records / "For Mature Adults Only" Date: 07 Apr 2000 12:19:21 -0700 thanks to whoever recommended the "For Mature Adults Only" lp. found a copy in the last week and its pretty great and has its moments. especially the "Psychedelic Trip" that "Mike" goes on. The Lord works in mysterious ways. .WILL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Boogie Bob Date: 07 Apr 2000 12:28:05 -0700 (PDT) Frankie was so cool to write me back and writes such nice dedications I was hoping I would not have to say that musically, he'd be a good openning act for Charlie the Hamster. The lp I bought has two or three fine tracks on it, Tiny Bubbles being the best (really good mood music in a way, the mood being creeping dread... music for a dentist's office in a David Lynch film). He's got this sort of drippy sincere Steve Lawrence type of voice... and the bubbly percolations of the synthesizer. If you're into the "incredibly strange" aspect of the music we talk about - a Frankie Burke title in your library can do little harm. But otherwise.... That said, I will pay the man almost whatever he wants for his Elvis homage tape. Gionni, maybe we can go in halves? :^) --- nytab@pipeline.com wrote: > and #26 is a tribute to Elvis! > > So, Ben, come clean on Frankie, should we be sending > him a few > bucks, or should we steer clear? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) religious records / "For Mature Adults Only" Date: 07 Apr 2000 12:36:09 -0700 (PDT) I still get all wistful and ashamed of being so jaded when I hear Dr Habel read "Michelle." I think of the time I was first devoured by a beautiful leopard. Alright, it was a garbage-fed tabby and it a gave me staph.... Great record! --- Will Louviere wrote: > thanks to whoever recommended the "For Mature Adults Only" lp. found a copy in the last week and its pretty great and has its moments. especially the "Psychedelic Trip" that "Mike" goes > on. > The Lord works in mysterious ways. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bump Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Man and goat Date: 07 Apr 2000 15:55:23 -0400 >Meet Roger. > >Roger the Goat. > > > > >Baaaaaaa! Roger the Goat meet Roger the Shrubber. just had to say it. sorry. bump # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Ghost World Date: 07 Apr 2000 15:57:35 -0400 Here's an excerpt from the latest Fantagraphics e-newsletter. It's nice to see that record collectors are having such a high profile in recent movies (ie. High Fidelity, Ghost World). I just hope Zwigoff maintains the crucial nature of a certain Patience & Prudence 45 to the story. -Lou LIFE IMITATES ART ----------------- By now, everybody knows that THORA BIRCH is starring as Enid in the GHOST WORLD movie, in which her character becomes infatuated with Seymour, a creepy, older guy who collects vintage blues records . But how many of you saw Birch -- sporting her uncanny Enid hairdo -- being interviewed by Joan Rivers during the pre-Oscar, red carpet festivities? Birch was escorted by Ghost World director TERRY ZWIGOFF, who, it so happens, is an older guy who collects vintage blues records. If you did see it, you know that Birch introduced Zwigoff and must have plugged GHOST WORLD at least five times during her interview with the ever-loathsome Rivers. Terry, you’re a hero to us all (especially, we’re guessing, American Beauty cinematographer Conrad Hall, who curiously devoted most of his Oscar-acceptance speech to confessing his lust for little girls just like Thora). MORE GHOST WORLD ---------------- We’re pleased to announce here for the first time two more castings in the Ghost World film. DAVID CROSS, the co-creator and host of HBO’s acclaimed MR. SHOW series, has signed on as GERROLD, a fellow record collector-pal of STEVE BUSCEMI’s SEYMOUR character. Cross has been one of our favorite funnymen ever since we first saw him perform at the 1996 HBO Comedy Arts Festival in Aspen, Colorado, and since then, we’ve seen him perform numerous times at Seattle’s Bumbershoot Festival as well as The Showbox in downtown Seattle, where his solo comedy special for HBO was taped last year (featuring painted backdrops by ZERO ZERO regular AL COLUMBIA!). Meanwhile, acclaimed actress ILLEANA DOUGLAS has also joined the cast, playing an art teacher of Enid’s named ROBERTA. Longtime EIGHTBALL fans will notice that Douglas’s character incorporates elements from Clowes’ notorious “Art School Confidential” strip. Douglas is best known for her roles in 1999’s MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE and 1996’s GRACE OF MY HEART, as well as a starring role in Fox’s short-lived but highly acclaimed series ACTION, created by Jay Moore, and a small but memorable turn as the ice-skating sister in the 1995 TO DIE FOR. Expect more casting news in two weeks, once your roving reporters return from not only the CBLDF MAKING WAVES CRUISE (see below), but also a visit to the GHOST WORLD set in Los Angeles! We’ll also bring you a first-hand report of filming, and hopefully some exclusive snapshots! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Directory of Digitized Collections Date: 07 Apr 2000 16:00:42 -0400 Directory of Digitized Collections http://thoth.bl.uk/ A joint project of the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) Memory of the World Programme and the International Federation of Library Associations and Institutions (IFLA), this site aims to catalog major digitized heritage collections and on-going international digitization projects. Although the database only contains 72 collections at present, its potential as a central point for information on digitized collections worldwide is considerable. From the main page, users can conduct a keyword search or browse the database by new or all records. Entries for collections include country, collection name, URL for the collection and institution, a description of varying length, type of material, and language. The site also includes a form to add a record, which potential participants can use to nominate their collection. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Drunk Date: 07 Apr 2000 21:40:18 +0100 We drink, we go back to work, we check emails, we laugh. A lot. 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Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ghost World Date: 07 Apr 2000 16:46:57 -0400 >By now, everybody knows that THORA BIRCH is starring as Enid in the >GHOST WORLD movie, in which her character becomes infatuated with >Seymour, a creepy, older guy who collects vintage blues records. > >Meanwhile, acclaimed actress ILLEANA DOUGLAS has also joined the >cast, playing an art teacher of Enid’s named ROBERTA. Longtime EIGHTBALL Who wrote the screenplay? Clowes, I hope? None of this was in the comic version. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, but it sounds like they're loading on a lot more plot. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Drunk Date: 07 Apr 2000 19:49:01 EDT In a message dated 4/7/0 3:42:47 PM, Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@mckinsey.com wrote: >We drink, we go back to work, we check emails, we laugh. Something about those "half off's" or whatever. Drink fast 'cause they close up again " 'round 2-ish "..JB/cawn't resist # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) THE BUNNY REMIXES - Charles Wilp tribute compilation - OUT NOW Date: 08 Apr 2000 02:21:45 +0200 The long-awaited release of THE BUNNY REMIXES CD, the tribute compilation chock-full of hot new tunes, cover versions of tracks from the Charles Wilp fotografiert Bunny album, is out now - and hopefully available everywhere. In North-America it should be distributed by Caroline. Details can be seen and heard on the Ata Tak homepage at http://atatak.com Participants are: Yasuharu Konishi (Pizzicato 5) - Maxwell Implosion Haruomi Hosono (Y.M.O.) - Tipsy - i:o:l - a certain frank Thomas Fehlmann - Sunroof - Schlammpeitziger Andreas Dorau - Donna Regina - Stereo Total Don Tiki - To Rococo Rot - bad examples a.o. The music is quite diverse and ranges from hip lounge, "breakbeat", pleasantly calm melodic pieces, to Latino-influenced and "deconstructivistic" avantgarde electronic. My personal favorite is the track by i:o:l, which is nothing but a simple song, but I haven't heard anything as beautiful as this for quite a while. Btw: Behind the group Sunroof hides nobody less than "The Normal", legendary Mute-Boss Daniel Miller and Depeche Mode-soundengineer Gareth Jones. It's great to actually hear all these musicians, that I have seen for a while as somehow connected, develop their style on one album in comparison to each other. I had never believed that Ata Tak would manage to bring all of these bands and artist together, but they did. And the result, I think, was worth the effort Mo (Although involved in the process of making, I'm not financially profting from sales of this record, goes without saying) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) THE BUNNY REMIXES - Charles Wilp tribute compilation Date: 07 Apr 2000 20:40:25 EDT In a message dated 4/7/0 7:25:02 PM, exotica@web.de wrote: >The long-awaited release of THE BUNNY REMIXES CD, the tribute >compilation chock-full of hot new tunes, cover versions of tracks from >the Charles Wilp fotografiert Bunny album, is out now That is good news. The initial re-release was an aural sensation. Also out that I think listers may be enticed by is "Descargas" by Los Samplers, a Chilean effort that samples various Latin musics and adds such F/X as CD-stutter, power outages, and general mayhem in a Latin-based rhythm that's sure to please. Primarily instrumental with distorted latin chants on the occasional track http://www.freehaven.com Also, as earlier threatened, a brief sin-op-siss of "Kaliedoscope" by DJ Food. I marked four tracks (of twelve) as playable in a set. Others may be listenable, including a track featuring a cool and strange Debussy sample. They are fabulously creative in that they utilize samples and add their own music in a totally new way (to my ears). Sampled are Quincy Jones ("Rack 'Em from "The Deadly Affair"), Lightin' Rod ("The Hustler's Convention"), and Ken Nordine ("The Aging Rebel" from '84). Also snippets of spoken word, beats, and generalized guru-ooviness make this a fabulous addition to YOUR collection, as it has to mine. I got mine from Other Music.... http://www.freeheaven.com JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) Wu Name Date: 07 Apr 2000 17:51:50 -0700 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Lou Smith > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 9:42 AM > Wanted a Wu-tang Clan identity. > Went to: > http://www.recordstore.com/wuname/ > http://www.recordstore.com/cgi-bin/wuname/wuname.pl Martin Denny - Violent Toilet Thing Enoch Light - Touchy-Feely Unpublished Poet Arthur Lyman - Contagious Specialist Serge Gainsbourg - Ultra-Chronic Monstah Walter Wanderley - Sabre-Toothed Portillo Nat Kone has the best Wu-Tang name, however. Later, Tha Visible Choirboy http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/ ICQ# 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: RE: (exotica) Wu Name Date: 07 Apr 2000 18:52:49 -0700 At 05:51 PM 07-04-00 -0700, Tha Visable Choirboy wrote: >> Wanted a Wu-tang Clan identity. >> http://www.recordstore.com/cgi-bin/wuname/wuname.pl >Martin Denny - Violent Toilet Thing >Nat Kone has the best Wu-Tang name, however. That is great! Byron Asthmatic Enemy of God (well, nearsighted anyway) Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Wu Name Date: 07 Apr 2000 22:58:42 -0400 > >> Wanted a Wu-tang Clan identity. > >> http://www.recordstore.com/cgi-bin/wuname/wuname.pl > >Nat Kone has the best Wu-Tang name, however. Well, that was my laugh of the evening! cheryl (bastard, BASTARD Harbour-Mastah) (tee hee) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappointed ... Date: 07 Apr 2000 23:09:15 EDT In a message dated 4/7/00 4:48:01 AM EST, Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@mckinsey.com writes: << Perhaps BJ's departure is indicative not of our lack of understanding of her individuality but of her actual inability to settle down with us. >> No I think it was simply down to being an asshole. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappointed ... Date: 07 Apr 2000 23:19:20 EDT In a message dated 4/7/00 12:01:04 PM EST, mimim@texas.net writes: << BJ was an entirely different case than that jerk Andrew, who clearly wanted to pick fights. She had *some* solid info to share, and she loves music as much as any of us. Isn't that what eXotica is about? Joining you in hoping we'll return to our usual discussion and that we behave with greater tolerance next time a temperamental poster subscribes to the list. Mimi >> Mimi, I praise you for your sense of democracy and diplomacy on this matter. But the problem with BJ was that BJ was guilty of the very sins you are lobbying against. There have been debates and outright fights on this list and I have come to respect many of the people I have had to spar with and I'm glad they are there to keep the list interesting and if I'm out of line put me in my place. But it was BJ's very pompous, self-righteous attitude that I took offense to. You can disagree but at least do it in style and with something intelligent to say. Everyone is wrong sometime, it is just that BJ never gor off her pedestal long enough to join us humans. By the way I have already received an off the list bard from this woman who just can't seem to be without the final word on anything. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: RE: (exotica) Wu Name Date: 07 Apr 2000 23:31:13 -0400 At 05:51 PM 4/7/00 -0700, Benito Vergara wrote: > >> Wanted a Wu-tang Clan identity. >> Went to: >> http://www.recordstore.com/wuname/ >> http://www.recordstore.com/cgi-bin/wuname/wuname.pl > >Martin Denny - Violent Toilet Thing >Enoch Light - Touchy-Feely Unpublished Poet >Arthur Lyman - Contagious Specialist >Serge Gainsbourg - Ultra-Chronic Monstah >Walter Wanderley - Sabre-Toothed Portillo > >Nat Kone has the best Wu-Tang name, however. > >Later, >Tha Visible Choirboy Just call me the Sullen Choirboy. That kind of fits me I guess. It fits me a bit more than my wu-name for the name my parents gave me. In that guise I am the Optimistic Lyricist. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: Re: (exotica) Not disappointed - Date: 07 Apr 2000 23:49:06 -0400 I've found that people with reactionary and conservative political/personal agendii are often smug and secure in an annoying way - case in point, BJ. Throw in possible ACA or other first person bad experience with addiction, and you've got someone who is simply glued to the soapbox. As a chronic abuser of substances and a part-time pedant it was hard for me not to jump in and discuss/argue... but simply not worth it. The feeling that nothing would change her mind or opinions detracted from the motivation to participate in a one sided discussion... I've certainly had my say on this list, and been properly 'spanked;' even if my opinions aren't changed, the feedback from intelligent people with differing viewpoints is valuable. BJ did not seem to be a participant, more like a guest lecturer. I believe the vehemence of some of the responses was a reaction to her rigidity. I don't applaud that sort of rudeness, but it's understandable. Long live the list. ck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) (not particularly) Disappointed ... Date: 08 Apr 2000 00:10:35 EDT Perhaps BJ's departure is indicative not of our lack of understanding of her individuality but of her actual inability to settle down with us. No I think it was simply down to being an asshole. I'm glad sombody had the testicular fortitude to speak the ultimate truth....And that's the facts as they lay. Hey, it happens and we all know it to be true # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: (exotica) Wu Name Date: 08 Apr 2000 00:13:15 EDT In a message dated 4/7/0 10:32:47 PM, bruno@yhammer.com wrote: >Just call me the Sullen Choirboy. That kind of fits me I guess. It fits >me a bit more than my wu-name for the name my parents gave me. In that >guise I am the Optimistic Lyricist. Is it just me? Or is this thread just not decipherable? JB/What Is Hip? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Not disappointed - Date: 08 Apr 2000 00:16:02 EDT BJ did not seem to be a participant, more like a guest lecturer yet another truth...and its surprising that this is so rare in such a worldwide format...Like the man said, "Long Live The Liszt"~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) breakbeat, sleazy, downtempo, oy vey Date: 08 Apr 2000 03:04:15 -0400 So you want to know what I got for the twenty odd jazz CD's I traded in?\ Bobby Hughes, Fusa Riot. Yes it's good. The Cinematic Orchestra, Motion. I mentioned this last week. I think it's very good. Remind me of Alice Coltrane in spots. But you have to like the jazz sound. Azymuth, Pieces of Ipanema. This is probably the loser of the bunch but it was used and cheap and I traded it in for two of the CD's that the first store wouldn't even take. I like some of it and I will play it again. Tosca, Suzuki. This might be my favourite. I don't exactly know why I ignored these Kruder and Dorfmeister guys. I hate to think it was racism on my part but I guess I still don't associate names like that with shaking your booty. This has great packaging too. And finally, what I'll have to choose for now as my favourite: Marc Moulin: Placebo Sessions 1971-1974 This is pretty amazing especially since I never heard of it and because Philip Catherine is actually involved (someone I dismissed totally.) Has this been mentioned on the list? I don't remember it. If you don't know it, this guy's records were apparently huge priced collector's items. The music is sort of a funkier, less improvised Bitches Brew kind of thing but with a bit of blaxploitation or crime jazz thrown into the mix. I think it's amazing and all the more for not being something absolutely tailored to this market like most of the other things. I heard the DJmeDJyou and kind of liked it. I may purchase it someday. I also liked some stuff I heard by Red Snapper. That goes on my future list too. I forgot to take Brian and Brother Cleve's lists with me but I will next time. If there is a next time. This stuff could be really expensive if you don't have a bunch of jazz CD's to trade with. Sullen Choirboy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" Subject: (exotica) Luke Vibert / BJ Cole? Date: 08 Apr 2000 17:23:36 +0000 Would any CD-burnin' fella or fellina who owns the Stop the Panic CD be willing to rip it for me in exchangefor a tasty morsel from my tradelist?? http://www.lobue-art.com/trade.html Hope so! Keith **************************** http://www.lobue-art.com A virtual gallery and info site for the artwork and workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE **************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) Manneken Pis Date: 08 Apr 2000 21:27:44 +1000 on 8/4/00 1:03 AM, m.ace at ecam@voicenet.com wrote: > habeus corpus. Don't forget Australia's draconian new net content regulations. > Which have been drafted with no understanding of the technology so that half an hour after a "take down notice" is issued the site is up and running on a USA server plus all the publicity it could hope for in the local media. Philip -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton Rueckert Subject: RE: (exotica) Wu Name Date: 08 Apr 2000 14:44:55 +0200 >Nat Kone has the best Wu-Tang name, however. Eh, how about Jane's? Jane Fondle! your Wu-Name is Undiscovered Bum Cheers, Ton *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hagar" Subject: (exotica) Finds and a concert review (Long, but you know me...hope you don't get two copies!) Date: 08 Apr 2000 09:39:29 -0700 I must admit, this wasn't an easy post to write. It's about my usual stuff and a friend of mine. Thanks to my wife for editing it. I have been very busy, so this post is very late. Hope you find it interesting. I just got back from Los Angeles and Park City, Utah (Madame has always wanted to go to a film festival) where we attended the Sundance Film Festival. I will leave out the Film review stuff, save for the fact that one of the Festival trailers for Sundance featured an excerpt of "Close Your Eyes" by none other than Don Tiki! These trailers were played before many movies, so quite a few heard it. Bravo Mr. Tiki! [Ed. note: I posted this bit already and he knows.] Finds: Didn't have much time to do much shopping, so I made a beeline for Bagatelle Records. Nice Exotica, reasonably priced. It was a stereo celebration: The Three Suns - Movin' and Groovin', in the original Stereo Action sleeve. This was my first time seeing this record. Latin-Esque - Esquivel. Also in the Stereo Action, but a second issue. The Eloise Trio. This features the wonderfully ear-splitting "Chi Chi Merengue" (isn't that right, Mr. Lobue?), although there is an alternate and wilder take of the same song on the "Showtime at the Drumbeat" compilation. Eloise Lewis (guitar and vocals), along with Bucky and Bert sing "Goombay and Latin rhythms", according to liner notes (Goombay is a celebration, not a genre). It is a rather pleasant collection of Calypso music, featuring a weird version of "La Bamba" (spelled "La Bomba" on the album) credited to Leo Robin and Ralph Rainger so one can only guess who made it to the publisher first with a old Mexican folk song in their hands. Firstly, the Spanish is off ("Arriba La Siba?"), it is decidedly slower than other versions I have heard (the speed prize is still held by Bud and Travis, who have a nice fan page at http://eserver.org/home/tom/budandtravis.html ), however, it is still pleasant. Although King Kini may disagree with me (he has a picture of the album on his site!), I don't know if I would recommend this to someone as a must-have Calypso album, but as a nice-to-have Calypso album. I would recommend the "Real Calypso" album on Folkways, with the forewarning that none of it dates from the fifties and does NOT sound like Belafonte (not that I dislike his Calypso, it is just different). Concert: Warning! Not quite Exotica. Repeat, not quite Exotica! Glenn Horiuchi and Friends, January 22, 2000 I will confess to being a bit biased, as Glenn Horiuchi is a friend of my wife's and mine. What is his music like? Well, I thought he was a Jazz musician, originally. Yes, he is, but that would be limiting the scope of his art. His music reflects his Asian heritage, avant-garde influences and his political leanings. While some artists have written political songs, without taking any action (hello, Ian Hunter)or some have taken political stances and claimed that they were merely entertainers when challenged (how are you, Rush Limbaugh?), Horiuchi has most certainly gotten involved, working with the Redress and Reparation movement for Asian concentration camp survivors of World War II (that would be the U.S. camps, not Germany's). So with regards to his politics, it may be said that he has not only composed, he has campaigned! The concert (no I didn't forget!) started out with "San Mi" (3 tones), which he played on the Shamisen, a three-stringed Japanese instrument (it looks like a banjo), with the San-Mi Shamisen Ensemble. This group features a Shamisen virtuoso, Lilian Nakano, who, as he later said, got him interested in playing this instrument. The piece was well-played by the ten-person ensemble, even though Horiuchi himself said to the audience he was worried about throwing them off (!). Next was "Issei Spirit". This was a solo piano piece, played by Horiuchi in what we would consider to be good old Ferrante & Teicher style; in other words, after sitting down to play, he immediately stood up and started plucking the strings! After that, he then began to play (perhaps attack would be a better word) the piano, alternating note clusters with chords, played notes and even shouted at the strings, reminding me of Stomu Yamashta. A fiery and disturbing piece. "Celebration" from his Poston Sonata (Poston was a concentration camp). It featured Lilian Nakano on the Shamisen, Francis Wong on the Saxophone and William Roper on the Tuba. While I am reasonably certain that this is one of the few pairings of Shamisen and Tuba, the problem of balance never intruded. The Shamisen (amplified) and the other two instruments played off of each other well. Roper coaxed many odd sonorities from his Tuba, even knocking the side of it. "Oxnard Beet" (a solo piano piece dedicated to the 1903 sugar beet strike by Japanese and Mexican farmworker in Oxnard, CA) was played most energetically by Jon Jang. This was my favorite piece of the night (admittedly, the most Jazz-based). It is both melodic and percussive (the composition is based partially on taiko drum rhythms, according to one of his albums' liner notes). The last piece, "Dewdrop" was yet another pairing of Shamisen and Tuba, featuring Horiuchi on Shamisen, Roper on Tuba and Wong on Saxophone. This was a most challenging piece, that went on rather long. Many sections of it were quite interesting and some, I must confess, were in a different musical language, which is good, as it keeps listeners on their toes, as it were. All in all, a fabulous program, including a Classical Japanese Dance (with vocals and Shamisen by Ms. Nakano). Quite literally, something for everyone. Horiuchi has played with many musicians, including Joseph Jarman and Wadada Leo Smith and released twelve albums under his own name, starting in 1988. What is he doing now? According to the program, "His present project is his battle with colon cancer, which was diagnosed in August 1999." Glenn Horiuchi is in stage four of the disease, which is considered terminal, however, as he rightly pointed out during the concert, "We're ALL terminal!". This concert was not only a great evening of music; it was also a testament to this man's resolve, faith and humor, since it was doubtful that he was going to be able (well enough) to PLAY (he attended the reception afterwards, part of the time laying on his stretcher). His condition is sadly resonant for me since he is the same age as my brother (44) and suffering from the same disease that took my father from me in 1992. Glenn Horiuchi is taking all of it with inner strength and fortitude that humbles me. Had one not read the program, you would have heard a fellow explaining his music and his journeys, while laughing out loud at times. Referring to his rather hermetic dedication to his music, "...I was politically active for some years, then I got into music full-time, HAHAHAHA! I used to have friends, HAHAHAHA!" Later, one would be surprised that the reason he stated for his being tired during the concert was due to his cancer. America has no great love of it's composers, whether it be helping new ones or supporting current ones. Yes, there are programs of study and yes, we have more record companies than anyone else, however, compare this with Italy, who does no less than support music with government funds. Music is a part of the budget. In the USA, you can get grants, on occasion, or you can hope that your music charts and does well. However, Horiuchi's various milieus are not Billboard chart-topping, MTV heavy rotation, cool tour t-shirt stuff, so he reaped the occasional harvest of the modern American composer: The occasional festival or concert. The albums on small labels. The recognition of few. Through all of this, Horiuchi composes great music and his great spirit persists. It was good to attend this celebration of his music, for as my Cousin Sarah used to say, "It's good to get flowers while you can still see them." Brian Phillips P.S. His music and discography are available at http://www.asianimprov.com/artists_one.asp?artistid=5 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Yost" Subject: (exotica) Enoch's "Disco Disque" Date: 08 Apr 2000 09:32:43 -0700 During some recent travel I picked up a 1975 Enoch Light record on Project 3 called "The Disco Disque." He has versions of well-known disco classics such as "The Hustle", "Lady Marmalade", "TSOP", and "Pick Up the Pieces" among others. One song he does though I wasn't familiar with, and it's really a standout. It's called "Hijack", written by F. Arbex. Can anyone tell me who did this originally? The lyric is something like, "I'm going to hijack your love," and there's a nearly-constant vamping flute throughout that is great. When you pick up an album like this, there's something like disbelief, at least for me, that the same person who did all those great Command albums would end up also covering tunes like this. On one hand, it seems like a desperate attempt to remain relevant in an era that had largely abandonded easy listening and light music. But on another level, the record is really quite good. Bert Kaempfert does a version of "Shaft" on one of his records that is also strong, but his back up vocalists who sing out "Shaft!" sound so amazingly "white" and inauthentic, whatever that means, that I always laugh when hearing it. They don't seem to hit the vocal hard enough; it just sounds weak, like singers with a vitamin deficiency or something. "Shut your mouth"! -- Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Yost" Subject: (exotica) Enoch's "Disco Disque" Date: 08 Apr 2000 09:37:34 -0700 What a weird coincidence. I hadn't realized until now, but on the same trip, I also picked up a 1975 album by Herbie Mann called "Discotheque" which has this same song, "Hi-Jack" as well as "Lady Marmalade". I dare say Enoch's version is the superior one. -- Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Yost" Subject: (exotica) more about BJ Date: 08 Apr 2000 09:58:11 -0700 I was out of town when this final BJ debacle happened, and I haven't read every word about what transpired. In general, I am really pleased at the genteel nature of the discourse on the Exotica list. It seems pretty mature and adult overall. I think it's positive that we are publicly examining what occurred with BJ instead of just ignoring it and moving on. One of the things BJ was critized or ridiculed for in these last weeks was an obsessive concern with her computer/data security and doing backups, etc. I sort of felt like saying, who are we to judge anyone on obsessive characteristics? This is all relative. We on exotica (not all certainly) are the people who think nothing of spending hundreds of dollars on just the right phono stylus or needle, on just the right audio gear or turntable, on our Nitty Gritty LP cleaners. We talk proudly about how we categorize our music collections, how we store them, computer databases of our collections, etc. We crawl on hands and knees through some of the filthiest thrift stores and flea markets to find our treasures. To the world at large, *we* are obsessed freaks. And that's fine. We're not all the same, and that's a good thing. I admit I raised my eyebrows about much of BJ's posts; she was all the things people have said: rigid, opinionated, unbending. But I would hope we could accommodate differences like this, even differences that rub us the wrong way. People in our own lives no doubt cut us a lot of slack. -- Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: RE: (exotica) Wu Name Date: 08 Apr 2000 08:28:05 -0700 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of DJJimmyBee@aol.com > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 9:13 PM > In a message dated 4/7/0 10:32:47 PM, bruno@yhammer.com wrote: > > >Just call me the Sullen Choirboy. That kind of fits me I guess. It fits > >me a bit more than my wu-name for the name my parents gave me. In that > >guise I am the Optimistic Lyricist. > > Is it just me? Or is this thread just not decipherable? JB/What Is Hip? It's a Wu-Tang thang -- you wouldn't understand. =) No, I was cleaning my emailbox when I came across an old posting by Lou Smith on finding your Wu-name at http://www.recordstore.com/wuname/. A reference to the hiphop (super)group the Wu-Tang Clan (RZA, Raekwon, Method Man, Ghostface Killah, Ol' Dirty Bastard, GZA, and I know I'm leaving someone out...). So Nat, we seem to be both Choirboys! Anyone else? Later, Tha Visible Choirboy p.s. "John Zorn" has a strangely appropriate Wu-name as well. np: "vision one: vision festival 1997" http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/ ICQ# 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Manneken Pis Date: 08 Apr 2000 11:38:33 -0400 >been nailed for it), but we can't see pert and >harmless fun-bags unveiled on TV or in the papers or >on the beaches (although there doesn't seem to be a Ben, you need to get out more: http://www.aanr.com/aanrclub.html m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits]Robert Gage, Grace Buscher Guslander Date: 08 Apr 2000 11:47:16 -0400 *Robert Gage NEW YORK (AP) -- Robert Gage, an art director with the DDB Worldwide advertising agency and a director of well-known television ads, died Tuesday of a staph infection. He was 78. Gage directed well-known characters like Mikey and his brothers for Life cereal, and actors like Jack Guilford, who appeared in Cracker Jack commercials, as well as Laurence Olivier, who was in commercials for the Polaroid SX70 camera. He also worked on the well-known campaign for the Polaroid One-Step camera, which featured commercials with James Garner and Mariette Hartley. Gage, who retired in 1992, won numerous industry awards for print advertising with a bold, inventive use of typography. He was also skilled with photography and television, specializing in filming commercials with characteristic quick cuts. In 1972, Gage was the first art director in advertising to be inducted into the Art Directors Hall of Fame. *Grace Buscher Guslander WAILUA, Hawaii (AP) -- Grace Buscher Guslander, longtime manager of the Coco Palms Hotel featured in the movie ``Blue Hawaii,'' died of heart failure on Wednesday. She was 89. Guslander, who built the Coco Palms into the prototype for classic Polynesian resorts, was the widow of longtime hotel executive Lyle Guslander. Her first venture into hotel management, Coco Palms soon developed an international reputation. Its lagoon was the backdrop for Elvis Presley's wedding scene in ``Blue Hawaii.'' She became the first woman to be named ``Man of the Year'' at New York City's international hotel, motel and restaurant show in 1979. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: RE: (exotica) Wu Name Date: 08 Apr 2000 12:11:58 -0400 At 02:44 PM 4/8/00 +0200, Ton Rueckert wrote: > > >Nat Kone has the best Wu-Tang name, however. > >Eh, how about Jane's? > >Jane Fondle! your Wu-Name is Undiscovered Bum Number one, when you say this person or that person has the best name it sounds like they came up with it themselves. Number two, if indeed Jane and I have the best names, that would be rather disappointing given that I believe both our non-wu names are pseudonyms. Finally I don't know how Ms.Bum feels about this but I think it's a bit creepy to think that people go to this website and when they don't like their own wu-name, they see what our wu-names are. Try your children. Try your boss. Try your wife. Let us discover our wu-names on our own. Damn I'm sullen. Choirboy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappointed ... Date: 08 Apr 2000 12:27:22 -0400 I'm disappointed that BJ is gone, but her domination campaign is still hanging over the list. But since everyone else is, I might as well say my little piece. It was a strange and subtle case. She wasn't the usual flamer or troll as you will find on nastier lists, and I can even imagine that her intentions were good, from her point of view. But cranky confrontations kept condensing around her, getting worse all the time. She shared some of the same music interests, but I believe her core sensibility was very different from most of us. An "oil don't mix with water" situation. A blowup was inevitable. The hive was slowly driven to a defensive reaction. Yes, some the posts got out of hand at the end, but I think it was out of pure exasperation. We *did* try the gentle touch with her for several months and she only got worse. I tried reasonable discussion with her on a couple of threads, but she would conveniently ignore my main points, nitpick on some minor point of syntax and repeat her original dictum. You simply *couldn't* discuss things with her. I've been avoiding posting to the list somewhat, because I got sick and tired of having her police everything I said. I even considered un-subbing, 'cause her effect on the list was so depressing. Such crankiness and tension. We've been testy on occasion (and it always passed quickly), but there was NEVER the sort of atmosphere that developed during her reign. I agree, we should remember to maintain our gentility and cocktail cool. But on the other hand, does that mean we should allow someone to come in here and bully us? BJ refused to make any accommodations to our established environment. Instead, she was forcing us to accommodate her -- twisting the list to her preference. That was unfair and wrong. It's a shame to be reduced to such a level, but I was very relieved that she finally got annoyed enough to leave (presuming she's not lurking). There was a time when this list felt like a very hip cocktail party loaded with casually wise and witty repartee. Lately, that's felt like a long, long time ago. Hopefully, we can work our way back a little closer to that standard now. Less train-spotting, more train-riding! m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Enoch's "Disco Disque" Date: 08 Apr 2000 12:25:09 -0400 At 09:32 AM 4/8/00 -0700, B. Yost wrote: > >Bert Kaempfert does a version of "Shaft" on one of his records that is >also strong, Pretty well everyone did Shaft, didn't they? The disco period Enoch Light that I've heard, I didn't like much. I think he did Shaft also. Or something like that. And I remember it being okay but the packaging of the double record was so cheesy (in the bad sense of the word) and so un-Commandy that I couldn't stand to keep it even with the odd cool tune. I don't know if he did Shaft but my favourite disco era - or at least Soul Train era - cover versions are by Lenny Dee. They're both horrible and great in the way that the best of this cheese can be. Check out his Love Train. The ez listening guy who made the best records - best in the sense of actually good and not very cheesy - was Percy Faith. His version of Shaft is almost as good as the original except it has no vocals. And his Black Magic Woman record is pretty well great front to back. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: Re: (exotica) (not particularly) Disappointed ... Date: 08 Apr 2000 09:24:14 -0700 >No I think it was simply down to being an asshole.> Too true, but let's be clear - nobody to my knowlege has lamented the fact that BJ got regularly corrected for saying some really dumb-ass things, or the fact that she no longer wastes the bandwidth to post them. In fact most of us are glad she's gone. I was more than a little dismayed by the way the discourse got personal and mean-spirited. I agree that she often forgot that she was treading heavily on the closely-held beliefs/opinions/feelings of others with her pedantic yammering, but repayment in-kind is a never-ending cycle that is just not constructive, and creates a vibe that benefits nobody. Knowing someone is an asshole is one thing - but how you tell them so can make all the difference in the world! THAT'S what I have been trying to say. Disappointed in the process, not necessarily the outcome. You got that, assholes? [big, sly, friendly grin] Love on y'all, Ron >Perhaps BJ's departure is indicative not of our >lack of understanding of her individuality but of her actual inability to >settle down with us. > > >No I think it was simply down to being an asshole. > >I'm glad sombody had the testicular fortitude to speak the ultimate >truth....And that's the facts as they lay. Hey, it happens and we all know >it to be true # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) more about BJ Date: 08 Apr 2000 12:42:24 -0400 At 09:58 AM 4/8/00 -0700, B. Yost wrote: > >One of the things BJ was critized or ridiculed for in these last weeks >was an obsessive concern with her computer/data security and doing >backups, etc. I sort of felt like saying, who are we to judge anyone on >obsessive characteristics? > We talk proudly about how we categorize our music collections, how we store >them, computer databases of our collections, etc. We crawl on hands and >knees through some of the filthiest thrift stores and flea markets to >find our treasures. I mostly ignored this part of the BJ saga because I had no idea what anyone was talking about. But was she really criticized for this particular obsessive habit or did people just say "Wow that's obsessive"? This is just speculation on my part but I suspect that if you said such a thing to BJ, instead of grinning sheepishly and admitting "Yeah I'm kind of obsessive in that way I guess" - which most of us would do if the subject concerned OUR obsession - she would probably defend her habits as utterly logical and correct; and then she'd proceed to criticize you for not recognizing that her habit represented the true and righteous path. The beauty of this list is that no one takes themselves too seriously. Or maybe they do but not HERE. And maybe they don't do it here because THEY know that WE know that they're just obsessive music freak/geek/nerds like us. Or maybe they found their humility one day standing outside themselves and watching themselves digging under rocks for yet another version of Caravan or Mais Que Nada by some guy with an electric accordion and a beat box. But they have humility. And you can always put a pin in them and say "Interesting viewpoint Sherlock but then again, you're a freak!" Say what you want in her favour but BJ had zero humility. The worst part of it for me is that I'll never be able to see or hear a Walter Wanderly record again without thinking "Yeah but his biggest fan was a self-righteous whatchamacallit" Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappointed ... Date: 08 Apr 2000 12:21:54 -0500 Ashley and CK and Jimmy B and others-- The whole Affaire des BJ has left me pensive and sad. Like you, Ashley, I love sparring with people on the list--I appreciate correction along with the play of argument. Perhaps like you, CK, I privately think that BJ's rigidity could have been a symptom of a deeper difficulty that, frankly, I had no desire to address. Her intolerance made me very uncomfortable and sometimes angry, and who needs that crap? I found myself deleting many of her posts unread--before she challenged us to do so--because BJ's imperious attitude so repelled me. Unlike you, Jimmy B, I don't think absolute truths are to be found in this complicated situation. Dismiss me as a wishy-washy relativist if you will, but Jimmy, I do believe there is probably more going on with BJ than we will ever know. And I keep wondering if a terrible loneliness prompted her to post on every imaginable topic. If that's the case, my heart goes out to her, and I wish her serenity and companionship IRL--in real life. Is this hypocrisy? Am I being as presumptive as BJ here? Maybe. When BJ first signed on, I was delighted. Outside of Cheryl, other women seldom post to the list. On eXotica I sometimes feel like a babe in boyland-- I'm an outsider in a dress who sometimes crashes the boys' rough and tumble games. Mulling over this incident last night, I wondered if some of the venom directed at BJ contained more than a grain of sexism--let's put this uppity opinionated bitch in her place. It's uncomfortable to have such thoughts about a list that I so enjoy, where I consider myself among friends. Yet there you are. I really miss Jill. Come back, Alarmingly Named Wolfman. I couldn't help comparing the BJ business to a similar incident that occurred on a femme-only list around the same time. Discussion on this 500-member list ranges from Java code to tampons, and along the way many passionate views get swapped. Colleen signed on and immediately began to crowd the list with tactless posts that brooked no argument. Unlike BJ, Colleen followed her snidest remarks with little smileyface emoticons, as if a :-) were an antidote for her poisonous strikes. After some listers challenged her, asked her to tone down, Colleen resigned in a melodramatic pique. Most everyone was happy to see her go, and that was that. No one was baited into reciprocating Colleen's personal attacks, though I doubt this was due to the emoticons. Men and women fight differently. In the BJ instance I can't say viva le difference. The moral of this story? Assholes are assholes, regardless of gender, I suppose. And I hope that, if and when another jerk signs up to eXotica, we can figure out a way to deal with him or her that's sensible, fair, and most of all, more kind than the malicious attacks BJ received from some listers. Ron said it well when he asked us to behave with aplomb. Moritz made an excellent point when he observed that eXotica maintains a high level of discourse (the occasional discussions of rogering goats aside--please, keep 'em coming... oops, another pun). I hope we can maintain that level when we deal with difficult people in the future. And femme lurkers--out yourselves! Womanly Panther # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappointed ... Date: 08 Apr 2000 13:39:10 -0400 >and tumble games. Mulling over this incident last night, I wondered if >some of the venom directed at BJ contained more than a grain of >sexism--let's put this uppity opinionated bitch in her place If BJ had been male, my attitude toward him would have been even darker. Yes, I acknowledge that amounts to a sort of patronizing reverse-prejudice. And don't forget, some folks had BJ pegged with the wrong gender. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappointed ... Date: 08 Apr 2000 14:04:29 -0500 m.ace wrote: >If BJ had been male, my attitude toward him would have been even darker. >Yes, I acknowledge that amounts to a sort of patronizing reverse-prejudice. > >And don't forget, some folks had BJ pegged with the wrong gender. m.ace, I had no wish to provoke you or anyone on the list. Yeah, I recalled that some mistook BJ as a man--if she replied with a pedantic rap on the knuckles, I missed it. I mentioned my concerns about eXotica as boyland because I hoped for a the typically thoughtful exoticat response. Why aren't there more women who collect records and are eager to talk about it? Maybe Sullen Choirboy will take this one on, drawing from his interviews for "Vinyl." And I really wish more women posted more often on the list. I miss Ms. Fondle as much as I do Jill. Apologies you or anyone else on the list who took my remarks personally. They were not intended that way. It's my turn for flames, I suppose. Now where's that asbestos cocktail dress? Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chuck Collazzi" Subject: (exotica) Wu-tang name Date: 08 Apr 2000 15:01:47 -0400 It's a lot of baloney. I came up with Temporary Spastic Ain't nothin' temporary 'bout it CC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappointed - gender branch Date: 08 Apr 2000 16:49:10 -0400 >m.ace wrote: >>If BJ had been male, my attitude toward him would have been even darker. >>Yes, I acknowledge that amounts to a sort of patronizing reverse-prejudice. > >m.ace, I had no wish to provoke you or anyone on the list. >Apologies you or anyone else on the list who took my remarks personally. >They were not intended that way. It's my turn for flames, I suppose. Mercy, no! No flames or irritation here! It was simply a straight-ahead answer, no spin intended. I even thought it interesting that you brought up the point, because I had been thinking about the similar question of, "would things have gone differently if BJ had been male." I've developed plenty of contempt for pushy alpha-males over the years, so I know in my case BJ would have irritated me even more (rightly or wrongly). Now that you mention it, our current *participating* female population does seem unfortunately low (who can say about the lurkers). It used to be a healthier mix a few years ago. That was one of the things I appreciated about the list when I joined up. "Ah! It's not just a bunch of fan boys." Perhaps it will readjust at some time. Hope so... it's healthier to have a more even mix and fuller perspective. >Now where's that asbestos cocktail dress? Now that sounds like an art project -- juxtaposing cocktail culture and blind faith in technology leading to health hazards. Or something like that. Or just a handy frock to wear for the ending of "Kiss Me Deadly". new, improved, flame-free, Jive Talkin' Choirboy OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappointed ... Date: 08 Apr 2000 17:04:10 -0400 "m.ace" wrote: > There was a time when this list felt like a very hip cocktail party loaded > with casually wise and witty repartee. Lately, that's felt like a long, > long time ago. Hopefully, we can work our way back a little closer to that > standard now. > > Less train-spotting, more train-riding! I'll drink to that :) cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappointed ... Date: 08 Apr 2000 17:13:11 -0400 At 12:21 PM 4/8/00 -0500, Mimi Mayer wrote: > >When BJ first signed on, I was delighted. Outside of Cheryl, other women >seldom post to the list. On eXotica I sometimes feel like a babe in >boyland-- I'm an outsider in a dress who sometimes crashes the boys' rough >and tumble games. Mulling over this incident last night, I wondered if >some of the venom directed at BJ contained more than a grain of >sexism--let's put this uppity opinionated bitch in her place. First of all I've gotta thank BJ for one thing. I know that this doesn't represent the best of my qualities but I love this topic!!!!! Okay as to Mimi's point... What's wrong with you? You on the rag or something? Geez I hope you know I was kidding there. I couldn't resist. Sorry. Was our attack on BJ sexist in nature? Well not with JimmyB anyway. In private correspondence he questioned me when I identified her as a woman. Jimmy thought she was a man so he's off the hook. As far as my sexism goes, I must admit that BJ's particular brand of self-righteousness, nit-picking and her habit of ignoring all your good points and only addressing the areas where you might be a little weaker, did remind me more of the women I've known in my life than the men I've known. Then again, the issues at stake when I argue with men are usually a lot less crucial and emotional than they are with women so maybe my experience is not reliable. Arguing over whether the ball crossed the line into the hockey net, even when a car is coming and you have to get off the street, while it can get heated is not as highly charged as finding out you're sleeping alone. With men I don't usually feel like I'm fighting for my life or trying to justify my very existence so maybe my experience of arguing with men has led to my feeling that men are altogether more reasonable and fair fighters. Even if we are always wrong. The only thing I can say for sure about this topic and the possibly sexist motives in my attack on BJ is that at no point did I think of her as a "bitch" as Mimi suggested. I didn't even think of her as the various other epithets that begin with the word "stupid" and end with less genteel words. And that's in spite of the fact that her opinion that when the Ellington band played it was only jazz when someone soloed and NOT jazz the rest of the time was possibly the most stupid opinion I've heard in years. And as soon as I read that, I realized that her wrongheadedness transcended gender and I never really thought of her as a woman ever again. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Enoch's "Disco Disque" Date: 08 Apr 2000 17:18:26 EDT In a message dated 4/8/0 10:01:12 AM, byost@megsinet.net wrote: >It's called "Hijack", written by F. Arbex. Can anyone tell >me who did this originally? Originally done by Barrabas. Made into a fairly sizable hit by one Herbie Mann. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) women as collectors Date: 08 Apr 2000 17:33:05 EDT In a message dated 4/8/0 1:49:42 PM, mimim@texas.net wrote: >Why aren't there more women who collect records and are eager to talk about it? My significant other has a whole theory about that very subject. Men, she submits, are measurers of existence. They need measurable units to quantify an otherwise unquantifiable experience called living. They do this with sports, records, stamps, coins (anyone have a 1909 S-VDB?), tools, electronic gear, other gear, and other items of a utilitarian nature. Women are envelopers of the entire earth and look at all existence as one unit, each component inseparable from the whole of it all. That's how she sees it....JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour Date: 08 Apr 2000 16:34:40 -0500 On this week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast, it's Little Richie Varola -- rockin' organist in Louis Prima's backup band The Witnesses at the age of 23, dead in a car crash at 31. We'll hear a track from his only solo album. Also on the show -- the Traveling Wilburys of exotica; spy jazz by Lalo Schifrin and Johnny Gregory; tunes from Claus Ogerman's "Saxes Mexicanos", Bert Kaempfert's "That Latin Feeling" and Les Baxter's "The Primitive and the Passionate"; an ode to Havana stogies by The Last of the International Playboys; the Rhumba King gets funky; plus Kenyon Hopkins, the John Buzon Trio, Balanco, Russ Garcia, Cal Tjader and more. To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour on the web, just go to: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Thanks for the space! Darrell Brogdon (Wu name = Detective Ventriloquist) dbrogdon@ukans.edu The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappointed - last words (mine anyway) Date: 08 Apr 2000 15:00:21 -0700 >>I agree, we should remember to maintain our gentility and cocktail cool. But on the other hand, does that mean we should allow someone to come in here and bully us? (etc) << Well-put, And points well-taken. As my final comment on the matter, I figure the reason she never really got under my skin is because I intentionally ignored most of her posts, and furthermore resisted the urge to reply most of the time - especially If I wanted to disagree. It was clear she wasn't hearing any voices but her own, and I had no desire to be cannon-fodder in a war that could not be won. It works for me. Oh, and one more thing - "BJ left a bad taste in my mouth." I actually wrote that in my first post - thank GOD I caught it in time and patched it before posting. HeeHEE! Instead of talking about the situation, we'd all be posting dick-jokes. (Hmm... Maybe I SHOULD have left that in there) Back to being my genteel, cocktail-cool self.... Ron "Hoping Mimi's flame-retardant cocktail dress is short and low-cut" Grandia =========================================================== >>>I agree, we should remember to maintain our gentility and cocktail cool. But on the other hand, does that mean we should allow someone to come in here and bully us? BJ refused to make any accommodations to our established environment. Instead, she was forcing us to accommodate her -- twisting the list to her preference. That was unfair and wrong. It's a shame to be reduced to such a level, but I was very relieved that she finally got annoyed enough to leave (presuming she's not lurking). There was a time when this list felt like a very hip cocktail party loaded with casually wise and witty repartee. Lately, that's felt like a long, long time ago. Hopefully, we can work our way back a little closer to that standard now. Less train-spotting, more train-riding!<<< # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: (exotica) ExotiGALS Date: 08 Apr 2000 15:09:12 -0700 >>Now that you mention it, our current *participating* female population does seem unfortunately low (who can say about the lurkers). It used to be a healthier mix a few years ago. That was one of the things I appreciated about the list when I joined up. "Ah! It's not just a bunch of fan boys." Perhaps it will readjust at some time. Hope so... it's healthier to have a more even mix and fuller perspective.<< Here HERE! I was considering recruiting some of the fairer sex from the chats at Luxuriamusic.com, but TikiBob already has sullied our reputation there. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) gender branch Date: 09 Apr 2000 00:33:58 +0200 Mimi Mayer wrote: > Mulling over this incident last night, I wondered if > some of the venom directed at BJ contained more than a grain of > sexism--let's put this uppity opinionated bitch in her place. The funny thing was that some - incl me - first thought BJ is a man, and that may be the reason for a roughness that some thought a man can take, but when they learned she's a woman, they suddenly felt, they'd gone too far. When I was new to the list I thought for a while, Jill was a man; when I told her after finding out "the truth", she was really proud of the fact that she was confused for a man. I don't know why women seem to participate less in certain activities. That is, I do think I may know why. I believe the time is over when you could still blame education or lack of opportunities for it. I always thought that culture, philosophy, hobbies and all these things not necessary for everyday reproduction, are all substitutes for real life and that men for some reasons tend to be happy with substitutes more than women. I actually thought women have more chances to "really " live instead of having to go into artificial substitutional life-forms. That it's a lack in their social characters that makes men find refugee in culture. Women just don't need it the same way men do, because they don't suffer the way men do. My grandmother used to say "philosophy is a play of the male mind". I don't know; I guess there is a lot that could be said against my way to see this; all I know is, that men and women are not equal in their attitude towards arts et al. Be it on the consumers side, or be it on the producers side. I think the discussion style here in this list may all in all be polite and on a high niveau of knowledge, but it's certainly not very "female". I really believe, in an all-female Exotica list threads about why grooves in vinyl records have pre-echoes would be impossible, whereas posts about how musicians look like and what they wear and who they live with and so on would be more frequent. And you know what: I would like it. I would like to know much more about the female point of view than most women are willing to give. Because they keep it to themselves, they consider their point of view as their secret weapon, part of the big mystery of the female. Or maybe they don't dare to bring it into the list, because they think it's unappropriate as long as there are men in the (chat-) room. If the latter is the case in your case, now you know, it's not the case in my case! This' roughly why I think women don't post as much here as men do. > And femme lurkers--out yourselves! Yes! Yes! Here I am! The Inscrutable Drama Queen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) women as collectors Date: 08 Apr 2000 16:15:08 -0700 At 05:33 PM 08-04-00 EDT, JB wrote: >My significant other has a whole theory about that very subject. Men, she >submits, are measurers of existence. They need measurable units to quantify >an otherwise unquantifiable experience called living. I am not so sure about this. Women do it, too...with clothes, dishes...all utilitarian items. Of course, men may deal with these items...and women may deal with records and "gear", too. Cite me a study, I may believe it...but it certainly wouldn't make any difference to me. People should be able to do what they want with their spare time and money no matter what their gender...and be able to share their knowledge and opinions regardless how trivial the facts and how baseless the concepts. Just look back on some of the subjects discussed on this listserv and the most interesting usually stem from someone's opinion initially judged "stupid" or "ridiculous." I would guess that if the opinion hadn't have been made, the REAL experts among us would have said nothing and thus the rest of us would not have learned anything new. If it takes an uninformed opinion to get some people to respond with interesting information, however venomously, I'm all for it. It is too bad some of that information can't be volunteered without the initial seed of dischord, but that is how some people do things. Where I work, we have been taught to ALWAYS raise issue with someone who has incorrect facts, ideas or opinions. However, we have also been taught how to avoid making it personal. It would be nice if people on this (or any) listserv could avoid slamming a person just because his or her ideas don't mesh. Simply saying "I don't agree and here are some reasons" would make it a lot easier to read the postings. Otherwise, some people and their "wrong" opinions might get the feeling they shouldn't post or even be on the list. And without those opinions, our discussions of interesting topics may not be quite as numerous. Sorry, seems like I strayed a bit from the topic (or perhaps steered back onto the previous one). Must have been something I had to say...even though it really has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with what I want to see on EXOTICA@XMISSION.COM. Byron Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, April 9 & 16 Date: 08 Apr 2000 21:57:17 -0400 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #90 & #91 The 2000 Funding Drive Shows Yes, it's funding drive time at CKUT! Being a University station, and not commercial radio, a hefty chunk of the station's funding comes from listeners. So we get to spend 10 days trying to cajole people into donating money to the station - in return for all sorts of cool gifts (CDs, books, gift certificates, and this year we even have some subscriptions to Cool & Strange Music to give away!) If you're interested in pledging, check out the web site above for all relevant info, including pledging on line. And if you just want to listen, that's fine, too! For the next two weeks, we've planned loosely defined shows, which will feature some of our favourite releases. We want our listeners to realize they will not hear much of this music on any other station (in this city anyway!). So a few of the things we'll be sampling from: Various - Get Easy Vol. 3 (The French Pops Collection) and Vol. 4 (The German Pops Collection) Various - Inflight Entertainment and Further Inflight Entertainment Lord Sitar - Lord Sitar Gert Wilden - I Told You Not To Cry Various - Kinky Beats The Bobby Hughes Experience - Fusa Riot Mint Royale - On The Ropes Los Chicharrrons - Conga Heaven, Bongo Hell! Jacknife Lee - Muy Rico! Gotz Alsmann - Gestatten Der Plan - Geri Reig/Normalette Surprise Stock, Hausen & Walkman - Organ Transplants The Bad Examples - Electro Tiki Dragibus - Barbapoux Pascal Comelade & Bel Canto Orquestra - Live in Lisbon We'll be back to our regular format for show #92 - all sorts of goodies in store for that one! Thanks for reading. cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) women as collectors Warning Date: 08 Apr 2000 22:40:13 -0400 At 05:33 PM 4/8/00 EDT, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > > >In a message dated 4/8/0 1:49:42 PM, mimim@texas.net wrote: > >>Why aren't there more women who collect records and are eager to talk about >it? > >My significant other has a whole theory about that very subject. Men, she >submits, are measurers of existence. They need measurable units to quantify >an otherwise unquantifiable experience called living.. Women are >envelopers of the entire earth and look at all existence as one unit, each >component inseparable from the whole of it all. Interesting theory. However it assumes that there are significantly fewer women collectors than men and I believe that's only true for record collectors, not collectors in general. I have no statistics but I'd accept the speculation that the ratio of male collectors to female might be two and a half to one. I'm not sure that's a dramatic enough difference to demonstrate any profound difference in character. I met many women record collectors on my journey but the women with the biggest collections didn't come close to the size of some men's collections. Not even far. They'd have to triple the size of their collection to just to qualify for "far". Why women collect records less frequently and collect fewer records we can talk about in another post. But even though most of you won't like it, I'm going to give you my "psychology for dummies" explanation for this phenomenon, culled from many hours spent with smarter friends. Warning: I never really felt I understood what the hell they were talking about. Here's the psychological explanation. But first of all, you should know that people who think this way don't talk about men versus women. They talk about individuals who are "sexuated" as men and those who are "sexuated" as women. I'm not sure what sexuated means but let's assume that it means the gender whose characteristics you take on. So not all men are sexuated as men. But at the same time most individuals who are sexuated as men ARE men. Got that? Not all men are men and not all women are women. Accepting that we move on to the theory. Men are obsessive. Women are hysterical. Hysterical doesn't mean what you think it means. The difference between the two concerns their relationship to the object. An obsessive looks at the object and says "the object is greater than me". The hysterical looks at the object and says "I am greater than the object" So the obsessive surrounds himself with objects because his sense of self-worth, to some degee, is derived from those objects. Or something like that. No amount of objects can ever quite make the obsessive feel whole. But he keeps trying. The hysterical feels that she/he is greater than the object so she/he only has the objects from which they can derive a practical use. An hysterical's "record collection" would consist of one CD which they would play until they realize they don't like it anymore and then they would trade it in for another one. I don't really understand this but that last description reminds me of a lot of women I've known. Here's something you almost never hear "Remember that guy with those twenty five thousand exotica records? He left his wife!" If you want this explained better by someone who actually understands it, I can try and cajole one of them into giving it a shot. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Raymond Scott Electronic Double CD Date: 08 Apr 2000 22:42:38 EDT Just another very enthusiastic thumbs up for this Manhattan Research release from Basta. I'm always on the lookout for 60s radio spots, jingles, promos, etc and was thrilled to see some of Scotts music for commercials were included. Remember Ideal's "Gaylord" from 1963? Hostess Twinkies? Oh, God!! I'm in heaven. Excellent quality, highly informative book with fantastic photos. Beautifully packaged and a STEAL to boot. The reissue of the year hands down, bar-none as far as I'm concerned - GET IT!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) gender branch Date: 09 Apr 2000 01:17:08 EDT In a message dated 4/8/0 5:37:12 PM, exotica@web.de wrote: >I would like to know much more about the >female point of view than most women are willing to give. Because they keep it >to themselves, they consider their point of view as their secret weapon, part >of the big mystery of the female. Time my brother, Time tells all. Can I ask if you are attached? Because at this address, after 15 years of commitment, 2 -- make that 3--(RIP Alanna) offspring, three major tragedies, several bright moments, and the process of being in a continuous relationship, I can say with some (not all) certainty, that a female point of view is as unknowable as a male point of view with certain glittering generalities excepted. Mimi brought out the obvious; the collector as comptroller construct. A woman is no more a mystery than a man once you spend the requisite time in a relationship with one IMHO. We all live, breathe, die by the same wants needs and mysterious chemical interactions as the opposite. Yet we are socialized to react in far different ways. And we generally adhere to the socialized expectations. I am convinced however that a common human bond is lurking deep within the crevices of programmed behavior. JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "w m" Subject: (exotica) guidance please Date: 09 Apr 2000 01:14:44 PDT hi all, now that my life is more or less settling here i need some advice. a shop here has a bunch of movie soundtracks quite cheap the only problem is some of the movies i haven't even seen or it has been so long i'm not sure which are worth getting or which to start with. any suggestions? here's the list: after the fox what's new pussycat? how to succeed in business without really trying the knack...and how to get it. carrie johnny cool elmer gantry a funny thing happened to me on the way to the forum in the heat of the night/they call me mr. tibbs any i should avoid? which should i begin with? i recently picked up a compilation supervised by konishi yasuharu(of p5) by okazaki hiroshi and his stargazers. the cd booklet is embossed and contains 26 tracks. seems heavily EZ in my book. unfortunately the liner notes are all in japanese so i have no idea the history of this group. but the disc contains a version of "quiet village" with vocals(!), born free, and i love her among others. does anyone have this and more importantly does anyone have a translation in english of the japanese liner notes? its been released on readymade records in japan. thanks, william in taipei. ps. thanks to those who answered my post about the italian comp many moons ago. i got it and love it!:) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek" Subject: Re: (exotica) Raymond Scott Electronic Double CD Date: 09 Apr 2000 11:41:55 +0200 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 4:42 AM > Subject: (exotica) Raymond Scott Electronic Double CD > > > > Just another very enthusiastic thumbs up for this Manhattan Research > release > > from Basta. > > > > The reissue of the year hands down, bar-none as far as I'm concerned - > GET > > IT!!! I got my copy yesterday, directly from Basta and I was thinking the same thing: this has to be one of the most beautiful releases (I don't think you can really call it a reissue) of the year. Even Basta will have a hard time releasing something more impressing. A follow up to this double CD is already in the works by the way. Marco > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek" Subject: Re: (exotica) guidance please Date: 09 Apr 2000 11:43:43 +0200 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: w m > To: > Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 10:14 AM > Subject: (exotica) guidance please > > > > i recently picked up a compilation supervised by konishi yasuharu(of > p5) > > by okazaki hiroshi and his stargazers. the cd booklet is embossed and > > contains 26 tracks. seems heavily EZ in my book. unfortunately the liner > > notes are all in japanese so i have no idea the history of this group. > but > > the disc contains a version of "quiet village" with vocals(!), born > free, > > and i love her among others. does anyone have this and more importantly > > does anyone have a translation in english of the japanese liner notes? > its > > been released on readymade records in japan. > What a coincidence! A friend from Japan just sent me a CD-R of it. In fact, I received it only yesterday, so I have only played it once. Heavily EZ indeed, but well worth your time. The cover of Quiet Village is very good. There are 2 other interesting releases in this series: 'Good night Tokyo - a collection of Japanese clubpop music 1967-1972' and 'Midnight Tokyo - a collection of Japanese clubjazz music 1966-1981'. Very groovy indeed. I have no idea if these are available outside Japan. WM, I'll mail you offlist about how to contact my Japanese friend, so he can tell you more about Okazaki Hiroshi. Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ark edgar" Subject: Re: (exotica) guidance please Date: 09 Apr 2000 12:16:15 +0100 Dont know about the rest but get The Knack it's an excellent soundtrack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappointed ... Date: 09 Apr 2000 10:39:43 EDT In a message dated 4/8/00 1:13:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mimim@texas.net writes: << I wondered if some of the venom directed at BJ contained more than a grain of sexism--let's put this uppity opinionated bitch in her place. >> i think most of the list thought BJ was male for a long time. i think the responses had nothing to do with sexism. will someone raise a racism concern now. great work sherlock, freak. :) just yanking a chord! tb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) women as collectors Warning Date: 09 Apr 2000 11:09:53 -0400 > >>Why aren't there more women who collect records and are eager to talk about > >it? Okay, here's my .02, for what it's worth: this is a really major generalisation, but from my experience, most women just don't seem to be as interested in music as men, to start with. They tend to stick with popular stuff, often more on the "lite" or "soft" side. I know when I was spending my early teen years hanging out in alternative record shops, listening to and buying everything from Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin to the New York Dolls and T-Rex, I was not doing it with my female friends. They weren't interested in anything beyond the Bay City Rollers and Osmonds. Sad, but true. How I ever got interested in this music in the first place, I'm not sure. But music has always played an important part of my life. I would say that for most females I know, this is far from the norm. As a result, I'm glad when I see other women on this list(or other music-related lists). But back to the collecting part - if the original interest in music isn't there, then it just follows that neither is the collecting part - what's to collect? And while I do have a tendency to accumulate records, I wouldn't classify myself as anything near to being a collector. I just buy things because I love the music. And I'm glad when I meet others who share my interests, regardless of whether they're male or female. Well, enough pontificating for a snowy Sunday morning ciao, cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: (exotica) Stuff Date: 09 Apr 2000 11:58:13 -0400 Hi, listers: I just resurfaced from a month-long work wormhole, and spent an hour going through accumulated posts -- and ran to get my Wu-Tang name. I am the Visible Choirboy. Last week, I had Luxuriamusic.com play all through one of my classes, as an "example" of Internet-radio, but mostly so as to plug it. Each time I go there, they're playing exactly what I want to hear at that particular moment. Last night, we went to see the fab, newly-reissued film noir Nightmare Alley, which you should all go see if it comes your way. It's set in the world of carnie mentalists, gypsy fakers and sideshow geeks, and the new print is super. Johanne and I are off to LA on April 29th for 10 days of r&r and hiding from the telephone. I realize this is a floodgate kind of question, but what should we do there? Will Will Straw, Associate Professor, Graduate Program in Communications McGill University 3465 Peel St., Montreal, Quebec CANADA H3A 1W7 Phone: (514) 398-7667 Fax: (514) 398 4934 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Library records Date: 09 Apr 2000 12:33:02 -0400 Just picked up yet another oddity yesterday; A KPM library record called "Sleight of Mind" from 1982, performed on the Fairchild computer instrument by Dave Vorhaus! Still have to keep an eye out for those done by Ron Geesin on this label. It is amazing the range of well known musicians that have done things for these library records! Brian, aka "Embryonic Crusadah" (I kind of like my own Wu-Tang name... but no.. my iniatals are not BJ!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TempoBlock@aol.com Subject: (exotica) UPDATE: Raymond Scott "MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC." Date: 09 Apr 2000 12:43:20 EDT UPDATED info about the new RAYMOND SCOTT release: "MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC." Although the US release is scheduled for MAY, this new 2-CD/book set is NOW SHIPPING exclusively from RaymondScott.com. (No need to wait until May!) RaymondScott.com can now accept VISA, MASTERCARD, & DISCOVER for payment. (Credit card orders ship SAME DAY.) For CREDIT CARD ordering instructions, e-mail: cards@RaymondScott.com MP3 files & more info: http://RaymondScott.com/mripr.html QUESTIONS? e-mail: info@RaymondScott.com THANK YOU! ______________________________ E-MAIL: info@RaymondScott.com SITE: http://RaymondScott.com ______________________________ . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Mannekin Pis Date: 09 Apr 2000 15:39:56 +0200 i know so little about it... story goes that waaaaay back in time, in the (late?) middle ages, some foreign army (Spain?) attacked Brussels, put some gunpowder bomb under the city walls, and lighted the fuse. then along came this little boy, and he urinated onto the fuse, thus saving the city, hooray! his female counterpart, Jeanneke Pis, is from much more recent origin. i first heard about here in the 1980's, and she was not much more than a promo thing of a restaurant. i never heard that record that was mentioned here. Mannekin Pis indeed has a big wardrobe. he gets clothes as presents from all kinds of organisations and foreign countries. Johan ----- At 18:42 -0600 2000/04/07, Moritz wrote: >Someone (Johan?) must explain to the list the story of this statue......... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek" Subject: Re (exotica) Library records Date: 09 Apr 2000 21:23:39 +0200 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brian Karasick > To: Exotica List > Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 6:33 PM > Subject: (exotica) Library records > > > > Just picked up yet another oddity yesterday; A KPM library record > called > > "Sleight of Mind" from 1982, performed on the Fairchild computer > instrument > > by Dave Vorhaus! There is at least one other KPM album (KPM 1243) by Dave Vorhaus: The Vorhaus Sound Experiments, released in 1980. Marco (Wu-name: Lesbian Pimp!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: Re: (exotica) Wu-tang name Date: 09 Apr 2000 22:07:44 +0200 > It's a lot of baloney. even better is your C.Y.B.O.R.G. name at http://www.brunching.com/toys/toy-cyborger.html D.E.N.N.Y.: Device Engineered for Nullification and Nocturnal Yardwork L.Y.M.A.N.: Lifeform Yearning for Mathematics and Accurate Nullification S.U.M.A.C.: Synthetic Unit Manufactured for Assassination and Calculation Arjan, Superintendent God-Botherer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Com Ed / We Five photo finish Date: 09 Apr 2000 16:36:12 -0400 Just so you can see what I was babbling about, here's a quickie comparo of the We Five cover and the Com Ed tray photo: http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/comed_wefive.html The human poses are rather different, but the composition is similar. The We Five cover is an especially bad looking scan because it comes from a tiny image on an A&M dust liner, not an actual cover. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Yost" Subject: (exotica) BJ has three faces Date: 09 Apr 2000 15:49:58 -0700 I can't be the only one to notice the anagram: BJ <-----> JB (as in DJ JimmyBee) Coincidence? Or multiple personality disorder??? :) [joke mode off -- no offense intended, DJ]. > brad yost! > > your Wu-Name is > Budget Nudist > Use it wisely, soldier. Um, word. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) elvislution Date: 10 Apr 2000 00:12:41 +0000 > Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:28:05 -0700 (PDT) > From: Ben Waugh > Subject: Re: (exotica) Boogie Bob > > That said, I will pay the man almost whatever he wants > for his Elvis homage tape. Gionni, maybe we can go in > halves? :^) Right said, Ben! I hate Elvis, but go ape for his impersonators. I guess I've got the "elvisimpersonator blues" (from comp. of same name). Awoppa-ba-baluba.Boom Ben! Gionni > - --- nytab@pipeline.com wrote: > > > and #26 is a tribute to Elvis! > > > > So, Ben, come clean on Frankie, should we be sending > > him a few > > bucks, or should we steer clear? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: (exotica) (AFP) Ohio bans Manneken Pis beer Date: 07 Apr 2000 08:27:03 -0700 > >Lou, how do you DO it? You seem to conjure-up news items relative to topics >of discussion as if the are an act of sheer will. I am beginning to think >this news item came 5 days too late, and you are having one on us... Can we >see the link to this story? (jk) > >It's too bad this label design has been taken - there are some US beers much >more deserving of such a symbol. (Budweiser and Coors spring to mind) > >>>> The Ohio liquor control agency said no to the brew -- also named >Manneken Pis -- because it runs afoul of a state law that prohibits >images deemed "grotesque or in bad taste," the French-language >newspaper said. > "A little boy urinating: that's vulgar," the agency's >spokeswoman Patty Haskins was quoted as telling Le Soir's New York >correspondent<<< > >The good folks in the state of Ohio must me resting easier onight knowing >they a little bit safer from the threat of vulgar beer labels. > >Eeesh! > >Ron > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rhonda Phillips-Guy" Subject: (exotica) Finds and a concert review (Long, but you know me...) Date: 08 Apr 2000 09:31:54 -0700 I must admit, this wasn't an easy post to write. It's about my usual stuff and a friend of mine. Thanks to my wife for editing it. I have been very busy, so this post is very late. Hope you find it interesting. I just got back from Los Angeles and Park City, Utah (Madame has always wanted to go to a film festival) where we attended the Sundance Film Festival. I will leave out the Film review stuff, save for the fact that one of the Festival trailers for Sundance featured an excerpt of "Close Your Eyes" by none other than Don Tiki! These trailers were played before many movies, so quite a few heard it. Bravo Mr. Tiki! [Ed. note: I posted this bit already and he knows.] Finds: Didn't have much time to do much shopping, so I made a beeline for Bagatelle Records. Nice Exotica, reasonably priced. It was a stereo celebration: The Three Suns - Movin' and Groovin', in the original Stereo Action sleeve. This was my first time seeing this record. Latin-Esque - Esquivel. Also in the Stereo Action, but a second issue. The Eloise Trio. This features the wonderfully ear-splitting "Chi Chi Merengue" (isn't that right, Mr. Lobue?), although there is an alternate and wilder take of the same song on the "Showtime at the Drumbeat" compilation. Eloise Lewis (guitar and vocals), along with Bucky and Bert sing "Goombay and Latin rhythms", according to liner notes (Goombay is a celebration, not a genre). It is a rather pleasant collection of Calypso music, featuring a weird version of "La Bamba" (spelled "La Bomba" on the album) credited to Leo Robin and Ralph Rainger so one can only guess who made it to the publisher first with a old Mexican folk song in their hands. Firstly, the Spanish is off ("Arriba La Siba?"), it is decidedly slower than other versions I have heard (the speed prize is still held by Bud and Travis, who have a nice fan page at http://eserver.org/home/tom/budandtravis.html ), however, it is still pleasant. Although King Kini may disagree with me (he has a picture of the album on his site!), I don't know if I would recommend this to someone as a must-have Calypso album, but as a nice-to-have Calypso album. I would recommend the "Real Calypso" album on Folkways, with the forewarning that none of it dates from the fifties and does NOT sound like Belafonte (not that I dislike his Calypso, it is just different). Concert: Warning! Not quite Exotica. Repeat, not quite Exotica! Glenn Horiuchi and Friends, January 22, 2000 I will confess to being a bit biased, as Glenn Horiuchi is a friend of my wife's and mine. What is his music like? Well, I thought he was a Jazz musician, originally. Yes, he is, but that would be limiting the scope of his art. His music reflects his Asian heritage, avant-garde influences and his political leanings. While some artists have written political songs, without taking any action (hello, Ian Hunter)or some have taken political stances and claimed that they were merely entertainers when challenged (how are you, Rush Limbaugh?), Horiuchi has most certainly gotten involved, working with the Redress and Reparation movement for Asian concentration camp survivors of World War II (that would be the U.S. camps, not Germany's). So with regards to his politics, it may be said that he has not only composed, he has campaigned! The concert (no I didn't forget!) started out with "San Mi" (3 tones), which he played on the Shamisen, a three-stringed Japanese instrument (it looks like a banjo), with the San-Mi Shamisen Ensemble. This group features a Shamisen virtuoso, Lilian Nakano, who, as he later said, got him interested in playing this instrument. The piece was well-played by the ten-person ensemble, even though Horiuchi himself said to the audience he was worried about throwing them off (!). Next was "Issei Spirit". This was a solo piano piece, played by Horiuchi in what we would consider to be good old Ferrante & Teicher style; in other words, after sitting down to play, he immediately stood up and started plucking the strings! After that, he then began to play (perhaps attack would be a better word) the piano, alternating note clusters with chords, played notes and even shouted at the strings, reminding me of Stomu Yamashta. A fiery and disturbing piece. "Celebration" from his Poston Sonata (Poston was a concentration camp). It featured Lilian Nakano on the Shamisen, Francis Wong on the Saxophone and William Roper on the Tuba. While I am reasonably certain that this is one of the few pairings of Shamisen and Tuba, the problem of balance never intruded. The Shamisen (amplified) and the other two instruments played off of each other well. Roper coaxed many odd sonorities from his Tuba, even knocking the side of it. "Oxnard Beet" (a solo piano piece dedicated to the 1903 sugar beet strike by Japanese and Mexican farmworker in Oxnard, CA) was played most energetically by Jon Jang. This was my favorite piece of the night (admittedly, the most Jazz-based). It is both melodic and percussive (the composition is based partially on taiko drum rhythms, according to one of his albums' liner notes). The last piece, "Dewdrop" was yet another pairing of Shamisen and Tuba, featuring Horiuchi on Shamisen, Roper on Tuba and Wong on Saxophone. This was a most challenging piece, that went on rather long. Many sections of it were quite interesting and some, I must confess, were in a different musical language, which is good, as it keeps listeners on their toes, as it were. All in all, a fabulous program, including a Classical Japanese Dance (with vocals and Shamisen by Ms. Nakano). Quite literally, something for everyone. Horiuchi has played with many musicians, including Joseph Jarman and Wadada Leo Smith and released twelve albums under his own name, starting in 1988. What is he doing now? According to the program, "His present project is his battle with colon cancer, which was diagnosed in August 1999." Glenn Horiuchi is in stage four of the disease, which is considered terminal, however, as he rightly pointed out during the concert, "We're ALL terminal!". This concert was not only a great evening of music; it was also a testament to this man's resolve, faith and humor, since it was doubtful that he was going to be able (well enough) to PLAY (he attended the reception afterwards, part of the time laying on his stretcher). His condition is sadly resonant for me since he is the same age as my brother (44) and suffering from the same disease that took my father from me in 1992. Glenn Horiuchi is taking all of it with inner strength and fortitude that humbles me. Had one not read the program, you would have heard a fellow explaining his music and his journeys, while laughing out loud at times. Referring to his rather hermetic dedication to his music, "...I was politically active for some years, then I got into music full-time, HAHAHAHA! I used to have friends, HAHAHAHA!" Later, one would be surprised that the reason he stated for his being tired during the concert was due to his cancer. America has no great love of it's composers, whether it be helping new ones or supporting current ones. Yes, there are programs of study and yes, we have more record companies than anyone else, however, compare this with Italy, who does no less than support music with government funds. Music is a part of the budget. In the USA, you can get grants, on occasion, or you can hope that your music charts and does well. However, Horiuchi's various milieus are not Billboard chart-topping, MTV heavy rotation, cool tour t-shirt stuff, so he reaped the occasional harvest of the modern American composer: The occasional festival or concert. The albums on small labels. The recognition of few. Through all of this, Horiuchi composes great music and his great spirit persists. It was good to attend this celebration of his music, for as my Cousin Sarah used to say, "It's good to get flowers while you can still see them." Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek" Subject: Re: (exotica) Wu Name Date: 08 Apr 2000 20:58:35 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 6:11 PM > Finally I don't know how > Ms.Bum feels about this but I think it's a bit creepy to think that people > go to this website and when they don't like their own wu-name, they see > what our wu-names are. Try your children. Try your boss. Try your wife. > Let us discover our wu-names on our own. Did you know that we are all members of the Crafty Barnardo mailinglist?!! Lesbian Pimp (I'm glad my mom does not know about this) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek" Subject: Re: (exotica) Raymond Scott Electronic Double CD Date: 09 Apr 2000 11:07:20 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 4:42 AM > Just another very enthusiastic thumbs up for this Manhattan Research release > from Basta. > > The reissue of the year hands down, bar-none as far as I'm concerned - GET > IT!!! I got my copy yesterday, directly from Basta and I was thinking the same thing: this has to be one of the most beautiful releases (I don't think you can really call it a reissue) of the year. Even Basta will have a hard time releasing something more impressing. A follow up to this double CD is already in the works by the way. Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) music for nervous people Date: 09 Apr 2000 00:44:55 +0200 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=298602150 starts at 20$. 4 hours to go. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek" Subject: Re: (exotica) guidance please Date: 09 Apr 2000 11:12:17 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 10:14 AM > i recently picked up a compilation supervised by konishi yasuharu(of p5) > by okazaki hiroshi and his stargazers. the cd booklet is embossed and > contains 26 tracks. seems heavily EZ in my book. unfortunately the liner > notes are all in japanese so i have no idea the history of this group. but > the disc contains a version of "quiet village" with vocals(!), born free, > and i love her among others. does anyone have this and more importantly > does anyone have a translation in english of the japanese liner notes? its > been released on readymade records in japan. What a coincidence! A friend from Japan just sent me a CD-R of it. In fact, I received it only yesterday, so I have only played it once. Heavily EZ indeed, but well worth your time. The cover of Quiet Village is very good. There are 2 other interesting releases in this series: 'Good night Tokyo - a collection of Japanese clubpop music 1967-1972' and 'Midnight Tokyo - a collection of Japanese clubjazz music 1966-1981'. Very groovy indeed. I have no idea if these are available outside Japan. WM, I'll mail you offlist about how to contact my Japanese friend, so he can tell you more about Okazaki Hiroshi. Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ian@dfuse.com Subject: (exotica) "Kaliedoscope" by DJ Food url Date: 09 Apr 2000 00:58:37 +0100 i was interested to check out the url DJJimmyBee gave for "Kaliedoscope" by DJ Food and "Descargas" by Los Samplers at http://www.freeheaven.com but all i got was a porno site ... was that intentional? friendly Sem Sinatra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek" Subject: Re: (exotica) Library records Date: 09 Apr 2000 21:16:49 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 6:33 PM > Just picked up yet another oddity yesterday; A KPM library record called > "Sleight of Mind" from 1982, performed on the Fairchild computer instrument > by Dave Vorhaus! There is at least one other KPM album (KPM 1243) by Dave Vorhaus: The Vorhaus Sound Experiments, released in 1980. Marco (Wu-name: Lesbian Pimp!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thinkmatic@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Search engines can access this mailing list, damn!! Date: 09 Apr 2000 21:42:33 EDT I was just doing a Yahoo search on the movie Skidoo and it brought up the archive of the Exotica mailing list from 1996. I didn't know that all messages posted to this mailing list were accessible via a simple Internet search. I always thought (fondly) that the mailing list's archives were a little harder to get to. Heck, if I'd known everybody was listening-in I wouldn't have been so free with all the nasty language I've been tossing around. -Roy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lenkei Subject: Re: (exotica) Search engines can access this mailing list, damn!! Date: 09 Apr 2000 23:21:58 -0400 (EDT) Yes, they're all archived to simple text files on a web page, so be careful what you say! ++++++++++++++++++++ Lenkei Design Graphic Design www.lenkeidesign.com ++++++++++++++++++++ On Sun, 9 Apr 2000 Thinkmatic@aol.com wrote: I didn't know that all messages posted to this mailing list were accessible via a simple Internet search. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr Subject: (exotica) Re: women as collectors Date: 09 Apr 2000 23:54:38 -0400 >Here's the psychological explanation. >But first of all, you should know that people who think this way don't talk >about men versus women. I really think there is some "collector gene"--and I definitely have it--but when Casa Mambo's own femalely sexuated spokesperson has collections of 50 vintage pop-up toasters*, 750 postcards, 150 retro cookbooks and pamphlets, and 25 mixers. . . I don't believe that gene is on the Y chromosome! So I asked her, why do you think there tend to be more male record collectors? Possible theories: 1) Fussing over records as an extension of hi-fi equipment fetishism. 2) Less social acceptance of violently opinionated connoisseurship in women (this is related to what Cheryl was saying) 3) Hoarding of factual trivia is more of a Guy Thing ("This is the same bass player who played on the first two Persuasive Percussion LPs!") Any other ideas? [ * 30 are displayed on individual shelves in a grid on the living room wall, which looks incredibly cool. We are still chuckling after our befuddled mailman peeked inside one day and asked, "would you call that pop art?"] cheers, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: (exotica) Re: Ohio bans... ignore me Date: 09 Apr 2000 20:54:00 -0700 > Ignore this message - I was reading the list backwards and though Lou had > stumbled across a news item that corresponded with the "pis" thread - but I > read back further and saw Mo's post that started the whole thing. > > This message was sent a few days ago, but never posted.... strange.... > > Apologies for wasting more bandwidth than usual # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) More Lee, with Anne Margret Date: 10 Apr 2000 09:01:50 +0100 A kind person sent me this. Does anyone know how many more left to come? "The Cowboy & The Lady" Cat. No.: SLR030 Label : Smells Like Records Release Date: 29 May 2000 Format: CD / LP Track Listing: 1. Am I That Easy to Forget? 2. Only Mama That'll Walk the Line 3. Greyhound Bus Depot 4. Walk On Out of My Mind 5. Hangin On 6. Victims of the Night 7. Break My Mind 8. You Cant Imagine 9. Sweet Thing 10. No Regrets 11.Dark End of the Street Bonus Tracks: 12. Sleep in the Grass 13. Chico 14. You Turn My Head Around 15. Its a Nice World to Visit (But Not to Live In) * * * * * * Smells Like Records continues its LEE HAZLEWOOD reissue series with perhaps the strangest of Hazlewood's recordings: his album of duets with actress Ann-Margret (star of Tommy, Carnal Knowledge, Speedway, and The Flintstones). This odd gem, originally released in 1969, was the first full-length LP on Lee's fledgling LHI label, following several singles by Ann-Margret & Lee, Honey Ltd. and others. Taking a break from the frenzied pace of his late 60s songwriting work, Hazlewood recorded this collection of country-tinged and Hollywood-soaked songs about both the sweetness and loss of love. The duo perform cuts such as "Dark End of the Street" and "Only Mama That'll Walk the Line" in their own utterly inimitable style: only natural for two personalities as inimitable as Lee and Ann-Margret. In addition, Lee performs Tom Rush's "No Regrets" solo, taking a cold, hard look at the aftermath of love gone wrong, in typical Hazlewood fashion. Also included as bonus tracks are four extremely rare songs, which constituted the first two singles on LHI. "Sleep in the Grass" and "Chico", a pair of Hazlewood originals performed as duets with Ann-Margret, produced on a par with his most baroque masterworks, were first released as LHI-2. "You Turned My Head Around" and "It's A Nice World To Visit (But Not to Live In)", two slices of Nuggets-era psych-pop sung by Ann-Margret solo, are possibly two of Lee's rarest and strangest productions. These four songs have been out-of-print since the time of their release and, along with THE COWBOY & THE LADY, make their first Hazlewood-approved appearance in 30 years. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) BJ's Wu-Name Date: 10 Apr 2000 09:42:58 +0100 You're not going to believe this but BJ's Wu name is: Psycho Bitch from Hell! No way, how cool is that? In all seriousness, and with no disrespect to any Wanderley fans, I forwarded BJ's Wanderley Website to several people in the office as an example of major obsessiveness. That site is far too detailed and thorough to be the work of anybody sane. I know, its all a bit stale by now. Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) Fear is the Key Date: 10 Apr 2000 11:27:28 +0100 I don't know if anyone has mentioned it yet, being on the digest and you were busy bees at the weekend, but Fear is the Key is on UK TV tonight twenty past midnight. Interesting to hear Roy Budds soundtrack in context. So, is it Jazz? Sounds like Jazz. Roy Budd was a Jazz musician. was anyone there, did you see any improvisation going on? El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) Meet Mr. Angry Date: 10 Apr 2000 06:37:55 Just had to share this note I just got from a non-fan of my Mantovani bio on the Space Age Pop Music page: >Regarding "Virtually all of Mantovani's music is unexceptional and uninteresting" >An opinion that is not obviously shared by the many millions world wide who bought his albums and have a great deal more respect for what Mantovani gave to the music industry than you have yourselves. > >Yours Mr Angry of Tunbridge Wells (154e) > Monty Python lives! Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Meet Mr. Angry Date: 10 Apr 2000 12:40:12 +0100 Tunbridge Wells - a great place in deepest Kent, probably full of people who have nothing better to do. In fact, I should probably take a trip there for a bit of chairty shop shopping, its probably full of the discarded record collections of old biddies. Invite Mr Angry to join the list so we can all dis his ranting. Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Strange Truths Date: 10 Apr 2000 05:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Ages ago I found a record that I thought to be from the late 50s, early 60s called Strange Truths as told by Tom O'Neil (Petal Records). It has sort of a glossy dark acqua cover spotted with floating nabobs with cut-out eyes - thought it wouldbe good for framing if nothing else. I pulled it outlast night and put it on. The narrator deliver such pieces as "He Could Not Be Photographed", "Witch Doctors of East Transvaal", The Psychic Donkey", "Poltergeist Activity" with a halting Rod Serling type of brogue. Very amusing stuff - but as I was half-listening I noticed that the eerie background music for some of the tracks was from Attileo Mineo's Man in Space with Sounds. That's all. BW __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Manneken Pis Date: 10 Apr 2000 05:42:25 -0700 (PDT) I can't. I'm not well. Idling on the information highway, BW --- "m.ace" wrote: > Ben, you need to get out more: > http://www.aanr.com/aanrclub.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) More Lee, with Anne Margret Date: 10 Apr 2000 14:49:44 +0200 Reader Geoff wrote: > A kind person sent me this. Does anyone know how many more left to come? > > "The Cowboy & The Lady" > > Cat. No.: SLR030 Label : Smells Like Records Looks like SLR is on its way to reissue all Lee Hazlewood LPs sooner or later. The best songs of this album were part of a reissue on Lee's own label LHI put out a few years ago, also containing his duets with Nancy Sinatra, Nina Lizell, Suzie Jane Hokom and Ann-Kristin Hedmark. A very good compilation, called The Cowboy & The Ladies! Somebody just sent me a scan of yet another apparently new re-release, Trouble is a Lonesome Town, on LHI. So I guess that one will not be put out again by SLR. Speaking of it: Here's a bit of an off-list question: Does anybody know the name of the font that was used to write the name Lee Hazlewood on that album cover and if it's available for computers (i.e. Macs, to be precise) ? Have a look: http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Moritz.Reichelt/ebay/lee_trouble.jpg Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Indian Vibes Newsletter Date: 10 Apr 2000 14:51:49 +0200 Indian Vibes goes Oriental Live-Act: U-cef/London The Moroccan Digitaliser and his friends DJ/Programming/MC/Percussion Live zu Gast bei INDIAN VIBES! am Mittwoch, den 12. April 2000 22 h @ Nachtleben, Frankfurt, Kurt-Schumacher-Str. 45 Warm-up: Station Rose: wien - cairo - k=F6ln (video) oriental breakbeats Petra Klaus und Said/ percussion In de bug /April 2000 steht auf Seite 16 ein Interview mit U-Cef Mehr infos im Netz unter http://korrekt.net/indian Radiotermine Di, 11 April, 13.10 - 14 h: Indian Vibes @ Radio X Frankfurt 97.1 fm (99.= 85=20 Kabel) via Internet: www.radiox.de/live Indian Vibes goes Oriental =20 Di, 11 April, 0.30 h Indian Vibes X-Fade DJ-Night @ Radio X Frankfurt 97.= 1 fm=20 (99.85 Kabel) via Internet: www.radiox.de/live =20 Mi 12. April, 19 - 19.30 h @ Radio X Frankfurt 97.1 fm (99.85 Kabel), via= =20 Internet: www.radiox.de/live U-Cef live zu Gast im Studio bei Jean Trouillet/ Weltbeat zum Interview U-Cef/ London will be live at the Radio X studio in Frankfurt for an inte= rview # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Search engines can access this mailing list, damn!! Date: 10 Apr 2000 15:17:59 +0200 Thinkmatic@aol.com wrote: > I didn't know that all > messages posted to this mailing list were accessible via a simple Internet > search. I always thought (fondly) that the mailing list's archives were a > little harder to get to. Heck, if I'd known everybody was listening-in I > wouldn't have been so free with all the nasty language I've been tossing > around. So "everybody" deserves a fairer treatment than the venerable notabilities of elite thinkers of this mailing list, huh? For this your d..k really should be r....d off by a v......e, s..t on a country-lane in O..o and run over by a 12-ton p..-....k! Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappointed ... Date: 10 Apr 2000 09:42:20 -0400 >i think most of the list thought BJ was male for a long time. i think the >responses had nothing to do with sexism. Strange, I never did, considering her earliest posts came through as (Barbara J.) B.J. Major. Brian "or is it Briana?" Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) back to music Date: 10 Apr 2000 09:48:02 -0400 Xylos Inc "Pretty Percussion" on Polydor. The best cuts are classics. The version of Aquarius reminds me a bit of Martin Denny. The version of "Walk on By" reminds me a bit of Mongo Santamaria. "Summertime" reminds me of Dick Schory and Mongo both. Good record!! Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) What? Date: 10 Apr 2000 15:06:25 +0100 I just bought two LPs yesterday - the best of Jane Birkin vol 1 and 2. I must have been in a trance in the shop because when I'd left the shop= and gone to the pub to meet a mate of mine, I suddenly realised that I thou= ght I'd been buying the Best of France Gall. It wasn't that I misread the artist's name, I just thought Jane was France, if you know what I mean.= Anyway, the records, (apart from Je t'aime which I already have on a Se= rge and Jane original LP) are pants. So if anybody wants two Jane Birkin LP= s for =A36, let me know. They're Japanese issues and should have cost a L= OT more but they came from a grotty promos shop and neither have covers. T= ake them before I vomit. Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) More Lee, with Anne Margret (Trouble) Date: 10 Apr 2000 10:15:42 EDT << Somebody just sent me a scan of yet another apparently new re-release, Trouble is a Lonesome Town, on LHI. So I guess that one will not be put out again by SLR. Speaking of it: Here's a bit of an off-list question: Does anybody know the name of the font that was used to write the name Lee Hazlewood on that album cover and if it's available for computers (i.e. Macs, to be precise) ? Have a look: http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Moritz.Reichelt/ebay/lee_trouble.jpg >> I've got that Trouble is a Lonesome Town and really, really like it. I'm hardly a LH expert and have heard very little of his stuff aside from the Nancy duets, but this one was very enjoyable. What I found unique and interesting about this recording is that the entire record is a story about a sleepy little town called Trouble. Each track begins with LH doing a sixty second or so spoken word intro which sets up the song. You meet a few of the towns locals, like the undertaker and that woman, who is all "soft and gooey lookin". Nice job on the CD reissue too - the liner notes contain the spoken stories. The original LP (1963 I think) is a tough find. Mo's URL reference shows a different LP cover than the one I've seen. Same title tho. Anyway, check it out... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) What? Date: 10 Apr 2000 10:17:52 EDT << They're Japanese issues and should have cost a LOT more but they came from a grotty promos shop and neither have covers. Take them before I vomit. >> surely it must be jane birkins singing that makes you vomit and not Jane herself :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) MacDermot find Date: 10 Apr 2000 15:24:12 +0100 I also got Galt MacDermot's Uptown Mid-Manhattan Rhythm Section - a reissue (or maybe an original only just issued, after info obtained talking to MacDermot's daughter a while ago) of a nice jazz LP with Bernard Purdie on drums and one or two standout tracks but in that slow, plodding hip hop style of heavy-on-the-drunks jazz. I like it a lot - similar to his Woman is Sweeter and Nucleus (Green Apples) soundtracks. I think I am a Galt MacDermot completist (apart from any copies of Hair, which I refuse to own, although I may stretch to the Japanese cast issue) but don't own many of his records. Can one be a completist by intent? Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Dissipated ... Date: 10 Apr 2000 07:28:59 -0700 (PDT) BP: Male, female, vegetable or mineral: BJ stood out in that s/he was intentionally and unreservedly abrasive. In her Grand Adieu, she told us that we were all (not only those she called obnoxious) basically a vulgar mob for using common terms such as "Exotica", "Lounge" etc., to describe what apparently she alone knew to be great music, great artists. I for one never bothered to read anything until she responded to me. She opened one response with "Whatever." I wasn't left feeling marginalized or gelded, but with a good summary of my feelings with regard to the BJ issue. All that aside, she did sponsor some diverting chaos. --- Brian Phillips wrote: > Strange, I never did, considering her earliest posts > came through as > (Barbara J.) B.J. Major. > Brian "or is it Briana?" Phillips __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jenna Kimberlin" Subject: Re: (exotica) women as collectors Date: 10 Apr 2000 10:27:13 -0400 mimim@texas.net wrote: >Why aren't there more women who collect records and are eager to talk about it? Too busy trudging through digests of the exotica mailing list and weeding out the flame war - very hard via digest I might add. By the time I finish I'm too exhausted to post! DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: >My significant other has a whole theory about that very subject. Men, she >submits, are measurers of existence. They need measurable units to quantify >an otherwise unquantifiable experience called living. They do this with >sports, records, stamps, coins (anyone have a 1909 S-VDB?), tools, electronic >gear, other gear, and other items of a utilitarian nature. Women are >envelopers of the entire earth and look at all existence as one unit, each >component inseparable from the whole of it all. That's how she sees it....JB Nah, I've got wayyyy too many books, records, vintage outfits and comics for that to explain it. I wish I could be more zen and "[envelop] of the entire earth and look at all existence as one unit". That sounds so noble. And I'd have much less crap around the house ;-) cheers, jk Miss Jenna Kimberlin Bored Ingenue http://www.hollygolightly.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: (exotica) Im back Date: 10 Apr 2000 10:52:44 -0400 Did I miss anything good? visit=20 THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20 at http://www.brimstones.com =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,= =B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4 surfing the chaos, Charlieman cdr@brimstones.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otto" Subject: (exotica) April 15 in Los Angeles Date: 10 Apr 2000 00:23:06 -0700 A One-Night-Only 'SOME LIKE IT HOT' Movie Screening & Stageshow A one-night-only 'SOME LIKE IT HOT' movie and live burlesque-style stage show will take place on Saturday, April 15 at 7:30 p.m. at the historic Orpheum Theatre at 842 S. Broadway in downtown Los Angeles. The live burlesque revue will include a rare appearance by 74-yr-old stripper Dixie Evans, who in the 50's was promoted as 'the Marilyn Monroe of Burlesque' and is 'coming out' of retirement to briefly revive part of her original stage act for this fundraising event. (Evans was actually sued by Monroe's attorneys, but her career perservered). Other performers will include the band CAFE R & B, magicians, jazz dancers and the team 'Lipstick & Lashes' (featuring precision bullwhip artist Brian Chic who will actually pick off his female partner's Salome outfit with the tip of his whip). The evening will be capped with a screening of a 35mm ARCHIVAL PRINTof the Billy Wilder 1959 film classic 'SOME LIKE IT HOT' starring Marilyn Monroe, Tony Curtis & Jack Lemmon. Proceeds from this event will go toward restoring the Orpheum Theatre's historic vertical sign. For more information call Friends Of The Orpheum at (213) 239-0949 or visit their website at http://www.friendsoftheorpheum.org/. See the "Events" link. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to majordomo@slick.org and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the subject). 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Maybe even slanted a bit toward the female. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: (exotica) Im back Date: 10 Apr 2000 09:25:56 -0400 I hope my subscription attempt worked.... visit=20 THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20 at http://www.brimstones.com =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,= =B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4 surfing the chaos, Charlieman cdr@brimstones.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) Search engines can access this mailing list, damn!! Date: 10 Apr 2000 16:22:48 +0100 Thats how I found the list I'd just bought Piero Umiliani's 'Todays Sound' and the Exotica archives were the only hit on his name. Home....... El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ spunky misunderstood Genius (My DJ name was no so wu-fantastic) Oh PS, Gionni, what about an Italian soundtrack site. Go on, you the man for the job. I was just doing a Yahoo search on the movie Skidoo and it brought up the archive of the Exotica mailing list from 1996. I didn't know that all messages posted to this mailing list were accessible via a simple Internet search. I always thought (fondly) that the mailing list's archives were a little harder to get to. Heck, if I'd known everybody was listening-in I wouldn't have been so free with all the nasty language I've been tossing around. - -Roy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: Re: (exotica) Strange Truths Date: 10 Apr 2000 10:24:57 -0500 > Rod Serling type of brogue. Very amusing stuff - but > as I was half-listening I noticed that the eerie > background music for some of the tracks was from > Attileo Mineo's Man in Space with Sounds. I'm 99% sure there's also music from Man in Space with Sounds in the pre-credits sequence of a movie called The Green Slime (love that title!). The theme song has always been a sort of guilty pleasure, too. Darrell Brogdon dbrogdon@ukans.edu The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: Re: (exotica) More Lee, with Anne Margret Date: 10 Apr 2000 16:33:41 +0100 Mo wrote Trouble is a Lonesome Town, on LHI. So I guess that one will not be put out again by SLR. Speaking of it: Here's a bit of an off-list question: Does anybody know the name of the font that was used to write the name Lee Hazlewood on that album cover and if it's available for computers (i.e. Macs, to be precise) ? Have a look: http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Moritz.Reichelt/ebay/lee_trouble.jpg Its been out on SLR since January some time, thats the version I have. I did see a Lee CD on LHI about a week ago. that as far as I know hasn't been re-issued yet. Poet Fool or (and?) Bum. i assume its an unofficial release. No idea of the font name, sorry. Nice LP, in a melancholic country way. Not like the Nancy stuff. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ spunky misunderstood Genius # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) women as collectors Date: 10 Apr 2000 11:39:13 -0400 I know a wife and husband who are both record collectors (I am not talking about me. My wife collects videos). She knows more about music than he and their marriage was a melding of collections (their tastes are very similar) as well as other things, to be sure. There are some things that she collects that he does not, though. She enjoys likenesses of poodles. She has pictures and a couple of lamps that are in the shape of poodles. They have an agreement that SHE collects the poodles, both collect the music. Buying them a Christmas present is always daunting. I just go for magazines (which they ALSO collect!) Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Fodder" Subject: (exotica) Fw: Kit Ream Date: 10 Apr 2000 08:41:30 -0700 Can anyone on this list help this fellow with his Kit Ream search? (message listed below) If you can please contact Matthew at PAROFVTU@worldnet.att.net Thanks in advance, Otis > In a message dated 4/9/00 6:59:23 PM, PAROFVTU@worldnet.att.net writes: > > I recently scored a copy of "All That I Am" by Kit Ream and now find myself > obsessed with finding out whatever the hell happened to that guy. Can you be > of assistance? > > - Matthew >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) women as collectors Thanks! (Long) Date: 10 Apr 2000 11:05:07 -0500 Thanks, y'all, for comments about women as collectors. Yummy buffet. Wanted to toss out a few responses. No need to add caveats about generalizations, is there? I love talking about men and women. JB: Tend to agree with your sig ot, based on the 'women as mothers' bio-determinism thang. Do know there've been several studies that indicate women are better at multitasking than men, who are better at singlemindedly knocking off individual tasks, one after the other. Naturally selected biochemistry has a lot to do with this difference, if I recall correctly. So this means that women would tend to collect more amorphously, record collecting as one of several activities they pursue in between birthin' babies and gathering grubs and roots. Men would tend to obsessively collect all 450 Ventures records, along with any singles, flexidisks, MP3 files, print ads, inner sleeves, show posters and tickets, etc. etc., and find great joy in counting up their treasures (after they had nailed that woolly mammoth to feed the clan for a few weeks). Would really like to know, Jimmy B: Do you agree with your sig ot? Nat: Definitely go along with the idea of "sexuation"--a hideous word--as more a matter of psychological orientation than body parts. Tend to go along with obsessive collecting but wonder if hysterical collecting does have a practical purpose. Will cite my very modest collection of women's hats and gloves as examples. Extremely impractical, unless some cellular prompting caused me to buy that blue velvet turban because a fetching bonnet would help me catch an alpha-mate who will keep me in woolly mammoths. Then there's Imelda and her shoes--but she is off most scales of sane behavior. I know several women who buy shoes, well, obsessively. They cannot resist a stylish pump. Luckily, some but not all of these women have blessedly found foot fetishist mates who share their mania. Who knows--maybe their purple calfskin slingbacks helped lure these mates their way. Others try their mates' patience and hunt continuously for closet space. Or perhaps these women's shoes are substitutes for real life or something lacking in their real relationships, as Moritz suggested. (Mo, wanted to say more about your post, especially about men and women on lists, but don't have time today.) Men have greater cultural permission to collect stuff. Cheryl, my experience echoes yours--I've known very few women who are as nuts about music as I. I signed on to eXotica hoping to find other women who collect lounge and EZ. Most other women tend to like less hard-edged music than I, too. And whenever I meet another collector methodically thumbing through the used bins at record stores or thrifts, he is almost always male. At the fall Austin Record Convention, billed as the biggest show if its kind in the US, men greatly outnumbered women. Same with the dealers--almost all men. Had a nice conversation with two women who were after soul and jazz. One told me she was buying as many records as possible so when she retires, kids outta the house, her nest will be plush with music. I could relate. She said she had "a few thousand" records. Couldn't relate to that one. Your remarks, Cheryl, made me realize that I've enjoyed several close friendships with men that were rooted in shared tastes in music while my friendships with women tend to develop from other joint interests. Has that been true of you? (Or any other women who lurk?) I've never had a close woman friend who's a professional musician though. Jane, for example, may "love music more" than I do but she probably listens to it differently than I do too--of course. I probably read differently than she. (Sorry to mention Jane is her absence. Hope she returns and that AstroSlut wins big.) Will repeat the mention-in-absence sin with Jill. Jill and I corresponded offlist about this men and women and music and collecting business. We agreed, music nutdom is unusual for women--and that male music nuts tend to find women music nuts sexy because they're exceptions to the norm. Any comments on this one, men and women? Now to work, but for a parting thought. Realized recently that the main reason I buy lounge/EZ records is that first listen. I'm looking for something that grabs me when I spin a disk the first time. Guess I'm a novelty junkie. That's certainly why I buy lots of $2 disks at thrifts. It's probably why I winnow through records ruthlessly. I have to really like a record before it earns a lasting place in the Rancho Deluxe stereo pit. In that way maybe I'm like you, Cheryl. Jill said that was true of her. Maybe that's our typically feminine, practical hysteria in action. And I've meant to tell you, Cheryl, the example you and Brian set with Space Bop has prompted me to consider going for a show on a local inde station. Nasty station politics always stop me in the end though. Still, a pragmatic (?) drive to share my records with others keeps me reconsidering showtime. What novelty binges have to do with hunting mammoths or gathering grubs or sexuation is beyond me. Any thoughts? And anyone else out there buy cheapo disks for that golden first listen? Thanks for the space. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thinkmatic@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Search engines can access this mailing list, damn!! Date: 10 Apr 2000 12:48:45 EDT In a message dated 04/10/2000 8:50:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, exotica@web.de writes: << For this your d..k really should be r....d off by a v......e, s..t on a country-lane in O..o and run over by a 12-ton p..-....k! >> Nice image, Mo. Keep up the good work making us Saxons look like kind and gentle souls. -Roy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) Strange Truths Date: 10 Apr 2000 09:52:22 PDT >as I was half-listening I noticed that the eerie >background music for some of the tracks was from >Attileo Mineo's Man in Space with Sounds. Thats funny because the other day i was listening to a Rudy Ray Moore record that I have and on one side as he is explaining his 69 reasons why he loves women, or something like that, I noticed that the background music playing was Martin Denny's Exotica. Is this copyright infringement at its sexiest or what!?!?! any Rudy Ray Moore fans out there? lets hear it!!! -jonny ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Strange Truths Date: 10 Apr 2000 09:57:22 -0700 (PDT) I love that song - and have always hoped to find the ST (I think the NY neo-psych band The Fuzztones covered it pretty well on one of The Battle of the Garages lps on Voxx in the early 80s). --- Darrell Brogdon > I'm 99% sure there's also music from Man in Space > with Sounds in the pre-credits sequence of a movie called The Green Slime (love > that title!). The theme song has always been a sort of guilty pleasure, too. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) women as collectors Thanks! (Longer) Date: 10 Apr 2000 12:57:53 -0400 >We agreed, music nutdom is unusual for women--and that male music nuts tend to >find women music nuts sexy because they're exceptions to the norm. Any >comments on this one, men and women? Well, if we are going to talk generally, here is a deep, dark secret. By and large, I tend to shun record collectors. Some are very nice (hi, everybody!), however, there are the ones that I used to meet in record stores that aren't too balanced and I found quite a lot to be just nuts as opposed to music nuts. Some are like the Comic Book Guy on the Simpsons, exclusionary and condescending. Some just won't shut the heck up, which is a drag when you work at a Tower Records as I did, some are just too danged insistent (I went through that phase myself, "WHY don't you have any Little Richard records!?"). Some have an agenda which they are more than willing to share with you (did you know that a woman I met at Tower wanted to write "Up the Irish" on a cake at a family gathering on St. Patrick's Day?" Now you do.) As I said before, though (and you are reading a post from someone that rode public transit for a long while) that isn't everybody. Were I single, would I find a female record collector with similar interests and a good dollop of "sanity" (consider the source before you flame me on that!) sexy? Yes, but not because I dig records; I dig knowledge. Ever since I was five, I realized that I wanted to settle down with an intelligent woman because it is a major factor in beauty. Pretty is a trick of genetics and perception, but beauty for me should include attraction but also patience, wit, empathy and intelligence. "Pretty" is easy for me to see, but while I will say, "She's pretty" or "He's handsome", I reserve "beautiful". ...ESPECIALLY for my wife, one of the most beautiful people I know. She is so beautiful that while she doesn't have the deep love of music I have, I am able to share the soem of the most obscure finds with her and she will occasionally like it. She also knows that when we travel, I like to do a bit of record shopping and she factors that in. She even goes to my shows, sometimes! Do I find that sexy? You bet. Rrrrrrrrr. For me, I will see movies that she wants to see and travel with her, because she looooooooooves to travel. Blessed and knows it, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Strange Truths Date: 10 Apr 2000 09:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Yessir! Bought his Xmas lp off EBay a few months back. What about Blowfly? Andre Williams? > any Rudy Ray Moore fans out there? lets hear it!!! > > -jonny __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: women as collectors Date: 10 Apr 2000 13:06:57 -0400 At 11:54 PM 4/9/00 -0400, Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr wrote: > >So I asked her, why do you think there tend to be more male record collectors? > >3) Hoarding of factual trivia is more of a Guy Thing ("This is the >same bass player who played on the first two Persuasive Percussion >LPs!") What's the difference between that and "This is the way Barbie looked before she met Ken. Oh and this is back when they thought nipples would be a good idea. That only lasted a year." And for that matter, what's the difference between our trivia and the trivial obsessions of women who've watched General Hospital for 20 years and can remember this of that character and the plotline from 15 years ago? I've heard the reasonable theory that men tolerate clutter more than women but then again, A LOT of the collectors I've met have extremely neat collections. In my parents' generation, men had hobbies and hobby rooms while women had the kitchen and the kids. Maybe it's still a holdover. Maybe things have not "progressed" that much. I can argue it on both sides. I think the reason, in previous generations, that men were more record collectors had to do with the STEREO. Like one of the women I interviewed said "When a boy turned 13, his parents might get him a record player but they wouldn't get that for a girl. They might get her a typewriter. 'Here, why don't you be a secretary?'" This woman was in her early forties. I don't think that would be true anymore. I think girls are just as likely to get CD players etc now as boys. There's the explanation that men use things to talk to each other about emotions. It's like the things are amulets or "discussion pieces". Whereas women are actually capable of talking to each other about emotions directly without needing to talk about objects as an avenue to express the emotions. I think there's some truth there. But don't go to a Tupperware party trying to prove that theory. I still think it has more to do with obsession. The ratio of women stalkers to men is very low. Same with serial killers but I don't think that's relevant. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) "Kaliedoscope" by DJ Food url Date: 10 Apr 2000 13:24:07 EDT In a message dated 4/9/0 7:44:33 PM, ian@dfuse.com wrote: >i was interested to check out the url DJJimmyBee gave for >"Kaliedoscope" by DJ Food and "Descargas" by Los Samplers at >http://www.freeheaven.com but all i got was a porno site ... was that >intentional? Absolutely not. I would NEVER! But seriously, the URL was on the back of the Los Samplers CD (also available on vinyl I think, but $3 more, or maybe that was DJ Food). The group is from Chile. I went after I posted the URL and wondered how long it would take to get busted..Next time I'll visit a URL prior to posting..JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) women as collectors Thanks! (Longer) Date: 10 Apr 2000 13:32:50 -0400 At 12:57 PM 4/10/00 -0400, Brian Phillips wrote: > >Well, if we are going to talk generally, here is a deep, dark secret. By >and large, I tend to shun record collectors. Some are very nice (hi, >everybody!), however, there are the ones that I used to meet in record >stores that aren't too balanced and I found quite a lot to be just nuts as >opposed to music nuts. Well I don't want to revive a dead topic but in general, what you are describing is a collector as opposed to an accumulator. And I think most of us here are accumulators (except that batty Brit who's a Galt McDermott completist OH Canaduh!) I always feel guilty and a bit disingenuous making this distinction because in my film, I sort of make fun of the first guy who introduced the idea to me. But in general, the most annoying habits exhibited by record "nuts" are those typically exhibited by the collectors. It's like when I was at the record show here recently and I'm going through this dealer's stuff and finding a very eclectic mix of stuff for a few bucks each. And up walks this guy and sort of pushes by me or doesn't see me and he asks the dealer "Do you have any KISS bootlegs? How about KISS picture discs? How about KISS solo records?" And when the guy finally convinces him that he has no KISS items, the guy disappears in a puff of smoke without so much as a goodbye or a thank you. A casual survey I took of used record store clerks came up with a clear majority for the proposal that the most annoying collectors by far are Beatles collectors. And I've experienced a bit of that myself. The mono recording of "Can't buy me love" on such and such a label. But then you have to see if the actual label on the record has the dog facing this way or that way. Who gives a damn? (I know there's no dog on Beatles labels but there are other collectors of RCA stuff that do look at the direction of the dog.) I won't speculate on which came first - being crazy enough to be a collector or being driven crazy (probably a short drive) by being a collector. But for my money, some guy looking for a version of a song he's heard a thousand times and has a hundred copies of, has got to be more annoying than another guy who is thrilled to finally find a copy of the Three Suns "Movin and Groovin". By the way, if we make this distinction between collectors and accumulators, I did not mean any women collectors. (Only accumulators). And my favourite story of a completist is a guy I didn't meet who is trying to collect everything on the Barry label. Why? His name is Barry. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Bayanihan Sings Date: 10 Apr 2000 10:37:52 -0700 (PDT) Found this today, on Monitor Records (Stereo). I haven't had time to go over it yet, but I believe Bayanihan is a Phillpines native folk ensemble of the early-mid 1960s. Vocals with gongs, bird calls, etc., and featuring soprano Eleanor A. Calibes on Nose Flute Solo. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) "Kaleidoscope" by DJ Food url Date: 10 Apr 2000 14:03:32 -0400 Check out: www.ninjatune.net It has realaudio samples of the DJ Food/Ken Nordine piece, along with tons of other stuff. No porn there, though :) ciao, cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Bayanihan Sings (2) Date: 10 Apr 2000 11:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Does it a bit more justice than my write-up: http://www.pwu.edu/bayan.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) men, women, art and music Date: 10 Apr 2000 20:47:38 +0200 Somehow this thread turns into a direction that I don't find very appealing anymore. Women as collectors. That's just a very small detail of the whole subject of women and art or women and music, as it started in the beginning of this thread. Being reduced to the question wether women collect more records or less than men is a bit weak. I mean, it is clear that women do collect *something*: Teddy bears, dolls, shoes, perfume mini bottles, to mention a few items. If any I'm more interested in what women are actively interested in culture compared to men. This would include conflict-loaden questions like why are there so much more male artists than female. (With the possible answer that it was always defined by men what art is) I had started to point out some thoughts about this, but there were no reactions. Was I too hard to understand? Was I too right to get any disagreeing replies? Does my English sound funny? I don't know. Only Nat was offering some theories on this wider subjects, from a psychological point of view. I don't know if we want to discuss this here at all, as it is not really related to the list's own premisses; so if you are bothered let me know and I shut up forever and concentrate on living up to my Wu-identity, the inscrutable drama queen. As for Nat's psychological attempt I was not surprised that he continuesly mentioned that it was somebody else's idea and he himself didn't really know what to think of it. So do I. Purely psychological explanations always sound like I Ging or a horoscope or Tarot tellings. You never can tell, why this and that should be the case. The reason is that human beings like all living creatures are the result of a long evolutionary process. The needs that have propelled this process have always been the same, survival of the individual, survival of the race. The brain that evolution developed, the mind of men and women, was a tool fitting to these needs. It has been pointed out here already in an earlier thread that the very existence of the fascination for Exotica, that is for primitive art forms, is a reflection on this fact. The primitive wild primate is still in us and very much alive, despite all cultural attempts to tame it. So it is not very far-taken, to try to find an explanation of the differences in the attitudes of men and women towards arts in the historical differences that men and women had to go through during the evolution of the human race. And that the explanations of the psychological differences can also be found here. One could argue that the obsession for art might be new in evolution and that it sort of marks a development of the brain into a space of freedom, but I doubt it very much. I don't think the ability to have fun and enjoy can be created by living beings out of the void. It can only be a sublimating reflection on basic primitive desires. This could be discussed lengthily, but I just want to take it for granted here. So how can we draw a picture of the different life circumstances of men and women in a primitive society, or should I say during a time in pre-history that is long enough to leave essential tracks in the structure of our minds? If we want to use the most simple standardizations, we'd say, men were hunting and collecting, while women were raising children and doing agriculture. I don't know if it was really that simple, but this picture would bring a lot of amazing explanations. I guess if you let this image become vivid in your own imagination, you will find a lot of parallels to what you observe in everyday life. I mean, the record collecting question would be answered so easily, too easy perhaps, one would almost have to become suspicious. No, seriously. When men were huntiong in groups they were talking very little, instead they would develop other forms of communication, and they would watch and listen a lot. This entire scenario explains so many things that I can still see in the behaviour of men and women in modern society: Percieving acoustic sensations in details, analizing what's behind an acoustic or visual signal, these would be elemantary abilities to survive for a hunter. Can't men watch television longer and more devotedly than women :-) On the other hand: Women are the very subjects of society life. There is much talking, with other women and with children. Women almost seem to use their brains collectively with other women. It's a process of much communication via language, this would for instance explain, why women in arts are especially strong in anything that deals with words. But they don't use or enjoy any of these communication forms alone, as for itself; it's always seen as an element in society life. So as long as music fulfills the needs of a given situation of the collective, it's great, women just don't have the time for scientifical investigation of the fine-structure of music with children around. They are not even interested in what record is momentarily playing, they just tell the responsible male to put on another one. And the man obeys, because he thinks there might be a good reason for it in the social context that he just ignored. The problems to be solved by a mother cannot be done by machines. There is no machine that washes children or sings them into sleep, it's all "live" communication action. I'm not saying that women can't be scientists. I'm only talking of the elementary reasons for "unnecessary" cultural obsessions, that obviously are quite different in men and women. The things that you do voluntarily for fun have to be in harmony with your natural desires. I can only scratch a bit on the surface; this post is already getting much too long. I hope I am simple enough to provoke some fuming reactions. I know it's not that simple, but also I do believe we have to look for the answer of the question of this subject- whichever it may exactaly be - in the historic evolutionary differences between men and women, genetically written into the minds and bodies of the genders. If the reasons are evident and natural, there is no need to complain about the percentage of women in this list. All that could be done is to modify the subjects of discussion into a direction, that would allow more women to participate full-heartedly with their natural obsessions and their sense of fun without raping their own nature. I would surely like it, as I never was a big fan of all-too-detailed lists of this and that. I always liked the hyper-links of the Exotica discussions, I thought that learning more about Exotica music would help me learn more about myself, art and life in general. I must say, I really appreaciate the differences of men and women, if they complete each other. I could not imagine to live in a world without male artists, but also I would not want live in a world, where society life would be dominated entirely by men. I think, men and women are a great combination. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) THE BUNNY REMIXES - Charles Wilp tribute compilation - OUT NOW Date: 10 Apr 2000 21:11:41 +0200 Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek wrote: > > > (Although involved in the process of making, I'm not financially > > profting from sales of this record, goes without saying) > > Same goes for me... I am just very proud that I was a little part of all > this. It was my first time you know... It was the first time for me too, I mean, being involved in a reissue project; publishing a record that was more than 30 years old. I owe the oppoprtunity to find this record as well to the Exotica list. And the list is also responsible for the fact that I took this seriously enough to go beyond just talking about it, like in "one should really reissue this record". I just knew that there are some people out there who would appreciate to have this. Before being in the Exotica list I always felt kind of isolated in my musical preferences. So thanks to you all! Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Re: [LavaLamp] Happy Birthday Martin Denny Date: 10 Apr 2000 13:00:49 -0700 (PDT) I just received this from Lavalamp Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- hypnotique wrote: > Hi, > > Martin Denny is 89 years old today. > > Celebrate by spinning some exotic sounds and sipping a cocktail or two. > > If you're interested, have a look at my MARTIN DENNY website. > > The url is http://www.martindenny.com > > I'd love to hear from anyone who knows of items I don't have listed > > best > hypnotique > www.martindenny.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: (exotica) TB's Travels (Part 1) Date: 10 Apr 2000 16:25:03 EDT It is funny how coincidence combines with opportunity to change things so=20 greatly in one=92s life. Especially when those changes often have a cascadi= ng=20 effect. Nearly 50 years ago, a musician playing mostly West Coast venues, was offere= d=20 a gig in Honolulu. He jumped on it. Not because it was a career change=20= =96 it=20 was more of a change in scenery. Travel to Hawaii was still fairly primitive in the early 50=92s, at least by= =20 today=92s standards. Airplane flights were 10 to 12 hours and ship travel w= as,=20 obviously, even longer. Still, for many, the post World War II period was a= =20 time for adventure and travel to exotic places. Everybody stateside had rea= d=20 about different Pacific locations of fighting during the war. By 1954, the=20 tragic occurrences of the war had given way to the romantic notions of the=20 diligent effort "our boys" made and the exciting places they saw in the=20 process. The Pacific Islands=92 balmy winds were calling to all sorts of=20 people. This one fellow, the one mentioned above, while I am sure he romanticized=20 about seeing some of the Pacific theater, never did. He had nobly enlisted=20 in the early 40=92s, and because of his musical talent, was assigned to a=20 special music/orchestra production unit which produced shows stateside. =20 Thus, his talents were put to well use, but not in the usual manner one=20 associates with being in the Armed Services during WW II. So there he is a few years after the war and this opportunity is offered to=20 work in Hawaii. In the 1950=92s, Honolulu was ground zero for just about al= l=20 activity in the Hawaiian Islands. The U.S. military maintained a strong=20 presence there =96 and especially after the Pearl Harbor attack, the powers=20 that be vowed never to let that happen again and thus stepped up all matters= =20 of coverage, both man power and otherwise. And the looming possibility of=20 statehood, which would come in 1959, kept the locals excited. The tourist trade was tremendous. Wealthy Americans would come with their=20 families and stay, sometimes for a month, at one of the luxury hotels that=20 were springing up on Waikiki. There was a hustle and bustle during the day=20 and the appropriate nightclub activity during the evening, but things quiete= d=20 down after 10 and the town was dead silent by midnight. Much different from= =20 the Honolulu of today. All of the above went through my mind as I sat in front of the Moorish style= =20 building, every inch of which was painted pink. In fact, everything was=20 pink, which sounds ugly, but it some how works. The Royal Hawaiian Hotel on= =20 Waikiki was built in 1927 and is the second oldest hotel on the beach. It=20 came to be called "The Pink Palace" and is still referred to as such today,=20 more so than it=92s real name. And I was sitting in front of this grand=20 building thinking about all that was going to happen. I was perched on the beach on a pink chaise lounge chair, under a pink and=20 white striped umbrella in an area cordoned off by a pink chain for Royal=20 Hawaiian guests. There were pink napkins for the glasses of ice water=20 brought by the attendants, all of which were dressed in traditional Hawaiian= =20 print "aloha" shirts, which were, or course, pink too. The beach was fillin= g=20 up as all the tourists, mostly from hotels way off the beach, filtered out t= o=20 the shore. Even the Japanese tourists, and there were tons of them, had a=20 pinkish glow as they had obviously been getting their money=92s worth from t= he=20 warm Hawaiian sun. Just over my shoulder, past the Mai Tai Bar, which was already doing a brisk= =20 business that morning, was the Surf Room Restaurant. The Surf Room was, for= =20 some reason, one of the few things about the Royal Hawaiian that was not=20 pink. It was a seafoam green, and according to one of the older waiters I=20 had spoken with the night before, was a much toned down shade now. "It was=20 way too garish, so they decided to lighten it a shade or two," he said. Too= =20 garish? What about the rest of the building? I just thought that, I did no= t=20 ask. =20 In my opinion, I was on the right side of that pink chain and was, by=20 default, part of that garishness. It sort of suited me that morning as I=20 watched the tourists, carrying their little straw mats and towels, all=20 jockeying for a little place on the beach. Too bad they did not have the=20 pink clad attendants to set up an umbrella up for them. Back to the Surf Room, and regardless of the current shade of seafoam green,= =20 I marveled at what must have transpired within the walls of that restaurant=20 in the past. See, our fellow who took the gig in Hawaii so many years ago,=20 ended up playing at most of the popular spots by the time all was said and=20 done. And the Surf Room was definitely a feather in this fellow=92s cap. S= ome=20 of his tunes ran through my head as I watched the activity as the pinkly cla= d=20 wait staff brought the breakfast offerings to the hotel guests. All of the above was swimming through my head at an alarming rate as I=20 pondered what was going to happen later that morning. After years of=20 appreciating the Exotic Sounds of Martin Denny, I was about to meet the=20 master. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: (exotica) TB's Travels (Part 2) Date: 10 Apr 2000 16:26:54 EDT It was a somewhat tortuous path that had brought me to the point of meeting=20 the so-called Father of Exotica. Basically, I had developed a sort of "pen= =20 pal" relation with Mr. Denny a few years back and we had written=20 correspondence every few months. We had talked mostly about music and the=20 particulars of certain songs and albums. We touched on a few personal=20 matters too, but it was mostly music. It might help if I explain why I am picking this time to relate this story t= o=20 all of you. Today, April 10th, is Mr. Denny=92s 89th birthday. It is funny= =20 how we need a birthday to make us highlight one=92s contributions and=20 achievements. Anyway, that is why I am thinking about and sharing my story=20 with you. A little later, I am back in my room and getting ready to make the 8 mile=20 drive out to the Hawaii Kai area where Mr. Denny and his wife, June, live. =20 The whole thing just seems so unreal. I wonder if we will hit it off or wil= l=20 this just be another instance where Mr. Denny is being nice to one of his=20 fans, more out of obligation than convention. All this goes through my mind= =20 as I make my way eastward along the Oahu coast and up to the Denny=92s condo= =20 building. What would happen over the next 7 hours would for ever erase any concerns I=20 had about Mr. Denny=92s conventions. I didn=92t realize it at the time, but= I=20 was getting ready to meet the man, not so much behind the music, but instead= =20 of the music. Sure we talked about some of the music he had created, but=20 much more importantly, we talked about ourselves. And Mrs. Denny stayed=20 right close by and contributed the most interesting stories about when they=20 first met, shortly after Mr. Denny moved to the Islands. And when we did talk about music, it was often not about Exotica. For=20 instance, Mr. Denny has a particular fondness for Gershwin. We talked=20 extensively about the Gershwin opera "Porgy and Bess" which was set in the=20 early 1900=92s amongst the black "Gullah" community of Charleston, South=20 Carolina, the city where I was born and continue to live. One of the few=20 tunes Mr. Denny played for me was a medley from the opera. Now if you would= =20 have told me that I would be spending time listening to him playing=20 non-Exotica music, I would not have believed it. But as it turns out, that=20 was typical of the day we spent. We talked about how he and June met and fell in love, their many years of=20 marriage and their daughter, how things had changed in Hawaii and the now=20 emerging resentment that many native Hawaiians have about the tourism=20 explosion. There were so many little things that Mr. Denny allowed, like=20 where he was when John Kennedy was assassinated and, later where he was when= =20 Bobby Kennedy was killed also. Mr. Denny related how different the world wa= s=20 in 1955 vs. 1965; only 10 years difference, but seemingly decades apart whe= n=20 you compared the events of the day. We talked about the most mundane things imaginable: changes in automotive=20 styling, pets that we have had, boyhood memories, achievements and regrets.=20= =20 Even our luncheon was at the most non-typical place you would imagine. A=20 Swiss restaurant =96 "the best in Hawaii" no less according to Mr. Denny. A= nd=20 it was good, but as far from Exotica as you could imagine. All of this really cemented the appreciation I have for Mr. Denny and his=20 music. Not because he explained his music at length, but because he=20 explained himself at length. I guess it is easy for us to forget that=20 entertainers are just people like you and me. They have their fears and=20 failures just like us. We just never see them outside of their music. Sort= =20 of like when you are a child and run into one your teachers at the mall and=20 wonder why she isn=92t at school.=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: (exotica) TB's Travels (Part 3) Date: 10 Apr 2000 16:27:57 EDT Yes, Mr. Denny is 89 years old today, but his music is timeless. One of the= =20 things he is so proud of is the fact that his music transcends generations.=20= =20 He is genuinely enthusiastic about the fact that younger people discover and= =20 appreciate his music. He humbly admits that some of his music was "campy"=20 (his words not mine) but in the same breath talks about the structure and=20 arranging of his more "complex" works. And this brings me to one of the things I will remember most about our visit= .=20 One of those "complex" works is called "I Love You Forever and Ever" and wa= s=20 first released on his From Maui With Love album. This album was recorded=20 when Mr. Denny was playing at a resort on Maui. It can also be heard on the= =20 Don Tiki CD (where the title is shortened to "Forever and Ever"). This tune= =20 is somewhat classical in arrangement and has become sort of a signature tune= =20 with Mr. Denny. He played this tune for me and the beautiful melody,=20 combined with watching him play, almost brought tears to my eyes. =20 Then I notice Mrs. Denny, sitting and watching her husband play, as I am sur= e=20 she had hundreds of times before. And as I watched her, I noticed that she=20 watched him intently, moving her foot effortlessly to the beat and smiling.=20= =20 This image, one of a woman watching her husband, again, as she had hundreds=20 of times before, obviously still appreciative of his talents and abilities,=20 did bring a tear to my eye. I blinked a few times rapidly, so as to disguis= e=20 my sentiment and not to possibly embarrass myself or my hosts. I smiled and= =20 thought then, as I do now, how lucky I was to be afforded such an opportunit= y. And so what had begun as a fan writing an entertainer, had somehow turned=20 into a friendship. I sent Mr. Denny a birthday greeting where I questioned=20 our needing a significant event like a birthday to recognize and celebrate=20 each others=92 accomplishments. We really should do it more often. I hope t= hat=20 we all take a minute to think about Mr. Denny and realize that he is one of,= =20 if not the, factor responsible for us even having an Exotica List. I bet he= =20 never thought something like our List would be in existence some 40 years=20 later when he initially moved to Hawaii to take that position. As I started by saying, it is funny how coincidence combines with opportunit= y=20 to change things so greatly in one=92s life. That cascading effect has brou= ght=20 an immeasurable amount of enjoyment to the many Denny fans out there.=20 I hope that each of you has enjoyed this little story as much as I have=20 enjoyed experiencing it and telling it. Warmest regards to all, Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) women as collectors Warning Date: 10 Apr 2000 16:43:55 EDT In a message dated 04/08/00 10:42:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bruno@yhammer.com writes: << I'm not sure what sexuated means but >> i think i got sexuated once by this gymnist i was dating -- i don't remember exactly what it was but i remember liking it. sorry, i couldn't resist. tb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Stuff Date: 10 Apr 2000 16:59:48 EDT In a message dated 04/09/00 12:00:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cxws@musica.mcgill.ca writes: << Johanne and I are off to LA on April 29th for 10 days of r&r and hiding from the telephone. I realize this is a floodgate kind of question, but what should we do there? >> Dresden Room to hear Marty and Elaine. Trader Vic's at the Beverly Hilton. Lava Lounge (real smokey but great DJ on the weekends). tb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Com Ed / We Five photo finish Date: 10 Apr 2000 17:04:22 EDT In a message dated 04/09/00 4:34:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ecam@voicenet.com writes: << Just so you can see what I was babbling about, here's a quickie comparo of the We Five cover and the Com Ed tray photo: http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/comed_wefive.html >> i smell a law suit! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lenkei Subject: Re: (exotica) TB's Travels Date: 10 Apr 2000 17:55:34 -0400 (EDT) Great story! ++++++++++++++++++++ Lenkei Design Graphic Design www.lenkeidesign.com ++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taro HOSHIJIMA Subject: Re: (exotica) guidance please Date: 11 Apr 2000 07:27:34 +0900 On Sun, 09 Apr 2000 01:14:44 PDT "w m" wrote: > i recently picked up a compilation supervised by konishi yasuharu(of p5) > by okazaki hiroshi and his stargazers. the cd booklet is embossed and > contains 26 tracks. seems heavily EZ in my book. unfortunately the liner > notes are all in japanese so i have no idea the history of this group. but > the disc contains a version of "quiet village" with vocals(!), born free, > and i love her among others. does anyone have this and more importantly > does anyone have a translation in english of the japanese liner notes? its > been released on readymade records in japan. > > thanks, > > william in taipei. In short, Okazaki has been the man behind most of "dabadabada" choruses in Japan since around 1960. His wife has also been famous in the world of dabadabada. The stargazers were one of a few efforts Okazaki himself stepped forward from the background to see the spotlight. Otherwise, he has been behind the mist of dabadabada for other singers. Taro P.S. Incidentally, I'll be in Taipei this weekend. If you are interested in meeting me (for translations from Japanese, etc.), let me know offlist. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Wu-tang, no, cyborg name Date: 10 Apr 2000 21:07:06 -0400 >even better is your C.Y.B.O.R.G. name at >http://www.brunching.com/toys/toy-cyborger.html Yeah... I like this much better than that Choirboy malarkey. M.A.C.E. - Mechanical Android Calibrated for Exploration ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) Bayanihan Sings Date: 10 Apr 2000 19:48:06 -0700 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Ben Waugh > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 10:38 AM > Found this today, on Monitor Records (Stereo). I > haven't had time to go over it yet, but I believe > Bayanihan is a Phillpines native folk ensemble of the > early-mid 1960s. Vocals with gongs, bird calls, etc., > and featuring soprano Eleanor A. Calibes on Nose Flute > Solo. Let us all know what it looks like, Ben. My guess is it'll be pretty much straight-up Filipino folk music, though I wouldn't be surprised if they snuck in a cover of "Maria" or something like that (generally as a concession to Americans in the audience). The birdcalls sound awfully promising, though. The Bayanihan Dance Troupe was (and still is) the primary exponent of Filipino folk dancing; indeed, it was their popularity worldwide that entrenched folk dancing as part of the phys ed curriculum (elementary, high school, *and* college) in the Philippines. The dances they performed can still be seen in practically every Filipino cultural performance in the United States (with the exception of DJs, which is another story). As for their music -- well, it isn't "exotic" enough for me. =) Later, Ben, Tha Visible (Filipino) Choirboy http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/ ICQ# 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) tip o' the hat Date: 10 Apr 2000 23:00:20 -0400 I've already thanked them off-list, but I feel the need to give a public tip o' the hat to Brian and Tiki Bob for their wonderfully humane posts ("concert review", "TB's Travels"). Thanks, guys. sign me, Mr. M.A.U.D.L.I.N. Mechanical Artificial Unit Designed for Logical Infiltration and Nullification # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) women, men, music, market Date: 10 Apr 2000 23:10:03 -0400 Regarding the observation that fewer women seem to get intensely interested in music, I wonder if that might have been influenced by the advent of the rock era, when music became very "cock-driven". Anyone have any idea or evidence of what the situation may have been before rock? For that matter, the development of recording technology changed people's relationship with music in many, many ways that you could probably never sort out, let alone adding gender considerations. But it's somethin' to consider. What's the situation in isolated areas where music has not yet been turned into such a hyper-commercialized spectator spectacle (if any such places still exist)? Sorry Mo, I'm not qualified to take it any deeper than that. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dciccone@inspex.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Enoch's "Disco Disque" Date: 10 Apr 2000 12:48:57 -0400 The list is hot this weekend. My eyeballs are hurting from reading thru all the digests... >Here HERE! I was considering recruiting some of the fairer sex from the >chats at Luxuriamusic.com, but TikiBob already has sullied our reputation >there. Great idea... I introduced a "D.J" to the list whom I met in the Luxuria chat room. Know he's (Oh, DJ's a male...) lurking out there somewhere. HI DJ! Don't be afraid to post and ask questions. And about the subject on Enoch Light. Just found this Thursday the disco 3LP boxed set along with the Brass Impact and the Show Tunes boxed set. Don't remember seeing Hyjack on there but will get to it tonight. Listening to the first disco LP in the set yesterday and thought "Hello Dolly" done as a tame bossa nova was fun. Another Night Train. All I can remember right now. I really enjoy the Command recordings and should listen to them more often. P.S. Found 3 of the Chickmunk records too. Thanks for all the posts on these or maybe would not have picked them up. Rough shape but playable. Domenic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek" Subject: Re: (exotica) Wu-tang name Date: 10 Apr 2000 19:24:01 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 10:07 PM > even better is your C.Y.B.O.R.G. name at > http://www.brunching.com/toys/toy-cyborger.html > > D.E.N.N.Y.: Device Engineered for Nullification and Nocturnal Yardwork > L.Y.M.A.N.: Lifeform Yearning for Mathematics and Accurate Nullification > S.U.M.A.C.: Synthetic Unit Manufactured for Assassination and Calculation E.X.O.T.I.C.A.: Electronic eXperimental Organism Trained for Infiltration and Ceaseless Assassination Marco (Mechanical Android Responsible for Calculation and Observation) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek" Subject: Re: (exotica) THE BUNNY REMIXES - Charles Wilp tribute compilation - OUT NOW Date: 10 Apr 2000 19:10:45 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 2:21 AM OUT NOW > The long-awaited release of THE BUNNY REMIXES CD, the tribute > compilation chock-full of hot new tunes, cover versions of tracks from > the Charles Wilp fotografiert Bunny album, is out now I got my copy from AtaTak about 2 weeks ago... and it's great! I am not really a fan of remix albums, but this one is a beauty from beginning to end. I know, the fact that I was involved in the reissue of the original album might have something to do with it. As Mo wrote me in a private email: it's sort of a fairy tale. From finding the original LP amidst some old stuff in an empty house in Holland to the reissue last year. And now this remix album makes it all complete. Hey, even Mimi's name is in the small print somewhere, so buy it, buy it, buy it... > Mo > > (Although involved in the process of making, I'm not financially > profting from sales of this record, goes without saying) Same goes for me... I am just very proud that I was a little part of all this. It was my first time you know... Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "w m" Subject: (exotica) chevy to the levy Date: 11 Apr 2000 00:25:28 PDT this is off topic but i am hoping some brainy person from the list can help me. i work in a cram school as an esl teacher and one of my taiwanese co-workers asked me the other day what it means in that song american pie when it says "i took the chevy to the levy but the levy was dry" i gave him some vague answers but i thought someone here might have a more accurate idea of the meaning? thanks in advance! william in taipei. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) chevy to the levy Date: 11 Apr 2000 10:35:07 +0100 w m wrote: > > this is off topic but i am hoping some brainy person from the list can help > me. i work in a cram school as an esl teacher and one of my taiwanese > co-workers asked me the other day what it means in that song american pie > when it says "i took the chevy to the levy but the levy was dry" i gave him > some vague answers but i thought someone here might have a more accurate > idea of the meaning? thanks in advance! Understanding the lyrics of 'American Pie': http://www.octopus.cnchost.com/Pie.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) women, men, music, market Date: 11 Apr 2000 12:25:54 +0200 m.ace wrote: > Regarding the observation that fewer women seem to get intensely interested > in music, I wonder if that might have been influenced by the advent of the > rock era, when music became very "cock-driven". Anyone have any idea or > evidence of what the situation may have been before rock? > > For that matter, the development of recording technology changed people's > relationship with music in many, many ways that you could probably never > sort out, let alone adding gender considerations. But it's somethin' to > consider. > > What's the situation in isolated areas where music has not yet been turned > into such a hyper-commercialized spectator spectacle (if any such places > still exist)? I think what you are talking about must be an American speciality. When I visited America the first time in 1979, I was surprised of the "rank" men, even my age, had in mixed groups of men and women. I was treated really nice, there was almost something like a natural admiration by women for men in the air - that I couldn't really handle. I had never experienced something like it in Germany, where feminism at that time already had shoveled deep trenches between the genders and all kinds of misunderstandings had poisened the relationships. I was used to feel guilty for being a male oppressor, whereas in America I was offered to play a much relaxter and more self-confident role. It was also much sexier. > Sorry Mo, I'm not qualified to take it any deeper than that. Oh I see, we "Germans are always so deep".... I heard that before. I like to chat too, that post was an attempt on "explanations" rather than "observations", simply forget it. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) chevy to the levy Date: 11 Apr 2000 12:48:44 +0200 Michael Jemmeson wrote: > > Understanding the lyrics of 'American Pie': > http://www.octopus.cnchost.com/Pie.html > Niiice, a "pop-up lyrics" page! Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) women as collectors Thanks! (Longer) Date: 11 Apr 2000 12:00:08 +0100 Brian, Now thats beautiful El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ Spunky Misunderstood Genius ...ESPECIALLY for my wife, one of the most beautiful people I know. She is so beautiful that while she doesn't have the deep love of music I have, I am able to share the soem of the most obscure finds with her and she will occasionally like it. She also knows that when we travel, I like to do a bit of record shopping and she factors that in. She even goes to my shows, sometimes! Do I find that sexy? You bet. Rrrrrrrrr. For me, I will see movies that she wants to see and travel with her, because she looooooooooves to travel. Blessed and knows it, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: RE: (exotica) Bayanihan Sings Date: 11 Apr 2000 05:35:21 -0700 (PDT) --- Benito Vergara wrote: > Let us all know what it looks like, Ben. Ben, Much of the record is straight up folk music and there is a yawner tossed in for the Americans: Yellow Roseof Texas. There are also several fine percussion(drums andgong) with vocBen, > > Much of the record is straight up folk music and there > is a yawner tossed in for the Americans: Yellow Rose > of Texas. There are also several fine percussion > (drums and gong) with vocals that are punctuated by an > occasional howl. I like these alot (I'm making a > compilation tape that I want to sound like a > schizophrenic descent into Hell. These fit in nicely). > The bird calls don't really jump out though. > > Best, > > Other Benals that are punctuated by an occasional howl. I like these alot (I'm making a compilation tapethat I want to sound like a schizophrenic dreBen, > > Much of the record is straight up folk music and there > is a yawner tossed in for the Americans: Yellow Rose > of Texas. There are also several fine percussion > (drums and gong) with vocals that are punctuated by an > occasional howl. I like these alot (I'm making a > compilation tape that I want to sound like a > schizophrenic descent into Hell. These fit in nicely). > The bird calls don't really jump out though. > > Best, > > Other Benam of Hell. These fit in nicely). The bird calls don't really jump out though. Best, Other Ben __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: RE: (exotica) Bayanihan Sings (post medication) Date: 11 Apr 2000 05:47:19 -0700 (PDT) Speaking of schizoid... apologies for whatever happened to the last message. In short, the lp was as Ben (who's speaking now?) said, mostly straight up folk music. There are, however, three or four fine percussion pieces which involve a fast-paced rhythm beaten on the drum and the gong. On one of these the chant-like vocals erupt periodically into howls. Beautiful cover art, well worth the $1. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: (exotica) I Mille Suoni Date: 11 Apr 2000 22:59:23 +1000 Found an odd record recently called "I Mille Suoni" by Alex Brown. It's recorded and released in Italy (no date but early '70's perhaps) and features Alex Brown playing multi-tracked and multi-effected acoustic piano with a repetoire of half classics (Chopin, Mozart) and half popular tunes and originals. He's no Ferrante and Teicher but he is certainly moving in that direction. The main "effect" on the record seems to be someone playing around with the speed of the tape echo which is heavily present most of the time. This, coupled with the multi-tracking and some prepared piano tricks produces a peculiar out-of-tune ethereal effect which is quite interesting. I've babblefished the liner notes but that hasn't helped me understand where this guy was coming from except that this album was supposed to be heard as beautiful and adventurous. Any one else heard this record or Alex Brown elsewhere? Philip -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Morgan Subject: (exotica) fritz the cat soundtrack Date: 11 Apr 2000 14:01:14 +0100 spotted this 1975(?) soundtrack to this 'x-rated cartoon' on vinyl the other day - musicians include bernard purdie and cal tjader, and i seem to recall some kind of hip-hop connection. is this one worth owning given that it was quite expensive even by london record shop standards? any opinions would be gratefully received. steve morgan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) fritz the cat soundtrack Date: 11 Apr 2000 14:05:53 +0100 This should be around =A320 for a clean original copy (sometimes I see = the gatefold copy go for more). It's pretty good, with one standout track t= hat appears on a couple of comps. There are better records - I own it and n= ever play it - it shouldn't figure high on your list but its not bad. Funky = jazz meets background funky muzak. Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: (exotica) tip o' the hat/ TB's Reply Date: 11 Apr 2000 09:07:00 EDT In a message dated 04/10/00 10:58:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ecam@voicenet.com writes: << I've already thanked them off-list, but I feel the need to give a public tip o' the hat to Brian and Tiki Bob for their wonderfully humane posts ("concert review", "TB's Travels"). Thanks, guys. >> Thanks for the kind words, M. Ace. I know I have been a little silent and not my usual wise-ass self the last few months. My alter-persona, the one responsible for actually earning a living and funding MY accumulations, has been very busy and thus old TB has been on hiatus. Of course, that workaholic bastard did earn all the money for MY trip to LA/Hawaii/Denny and I have to give the sap some recognition for that. Unfortunately (fortunately??), I missed the whole BJ thing and did not read a lot of the emails referenced in the B.J. - A.D. thing. In all fairness to ALL on the List, I have known most of the "players" here for about 4 years now. I feel that 99.9% of the time, 99.9% of the people here are level headed and well healed (notice I covered head to toe there). I am glad that my alter-persona was sort of busy and kept me out of the melee. Finally, Mr. Denny had a lovely birthday as his sister and daughter came to Hawaii to spend some time with him. While not in poor health, Mr. and Mrs. Denny have slowed down and do not venture far from their condo. Travel off of Oahu is really out of the question. Fortunately for us, they vinyl pressings of the fellow's work are widespread and allow us to have him into our homes at the drop of a needle. And in closing, and sounding kind of sappy, I really appreciate the interaction afforded me by this List. I have great friends and family here but not real Exotica compatriots. This List has allowed me to learn and contribute to an area where I, as well as you, have a tremendous interest. Stop and think what we all would do if we didn't have this List. My life would be a lot duller. Warmest regards to all, TB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) fritz the cat soundtrack Date: 11 Apr 2000 09:43:26 EDT << spotted this 1975(?) soundtrack to this 'x-rated cartoon' on vinyl the other day - musicians include bernard purdie and cal tjader, and i seem to recall some kind of hip-hop connection. is this one worth owning given that it was quite expensive even by london record shop standards? any opinions would be gratefully received. >> If you can live without the vinyl original, a CD of this soundtrack backed with Heavy Traffic is readily available at your choice of online shopping marts. Try Amazon, Tower, etc.. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) women, men, music, market Date: 11 Apr 2000 11:05:00 -0400 >> Sorry Mo, I'm not qualified to take it any deeper than that. > >Oh I see, we "Germans are always so deep".... I heard that before. I like to >chat too, that post was an attempt on "explanations" rather than >"observations", simply forget it. No, that's not what I meant. You had your fingers in some interesting pies in your earlier post, but I simply don't have the muscle to aid your quest very much. Now I'm not being flip here, this is a constructive suggestion... maybe you should "Ask Camille Paglia". She's an academic who's made a career of this sort of thing. She does a column on Salon. askcamille@salon.com http://www.salon.com/archives/2000/col_pagl.html m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) 3 Years Space Escapade at the Atomic Cafe Date: 11 Apr 2000 18:17:13 +0200 (MEST) Anniversary Tuesday 11 April 2000 3 Years Space Escapade at the Atomic Cafe 21.00 at the Atomic Cafe Neuturmstr. 5 Munich, Germany live Peter Spatina cssr Playing walzes and polka on the glassharp DJs Bernd Hartwich from the Merricks And the Lemmon Squeezer Sound System The Space Escapade is my clubnight that started in the End of 1996 with the inspiration from the ISM Books & the Easy Listening wave. The night moved in 1997 to the Discotheque Atomic Cafe. I call the Music that i play Exotic Club Pop Entertainment. It includes Exotica, SABPM, Easy and Uneasy, Brasil, Latin, Entertainer, Soul, Funk, Jazz, Ska, Surf, Moog, Sitar, Striptease RnR, Soundtracks, etc mostly from the 60s and new stuff like Tipsy, Karminsky Experience, Nicola Conte etc. So the term Exotic Club Pop Entertainment is of corse not really correct because not everything you hear there has something to do with exotica. It is the same thing with this list, that not every subject that is in discussion has something directly to do with exotica. Verry much thanks to all the people who supported the night and all the bands and DJs who where performing there. Martin aka Lemmon Squeezer Sound System -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) Record Shops Date: 11 Apr 2000 18:20:12 +0200 (MEST) a Girlfriend make some hollyday in the states and would like to know good Recordshops, Thrift Stores & Flea Markets. She stay at New York and wan’t drive to North Carolina. Can somebody help ? Thanx a lot Martin -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E4mmel?= Subject: (exotica) Record Shops Date: 11 Apr 2000 18:26:53 +0200 (MEST) a Girlfriend make some hollyday in the states and would like to know good Recordshops, Thrift Stores & Flea Markets. She stay at New York and wan’t drive to North Carolina. Can somebody help ? Thanx a lot Martin -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Hoel" Subject: Re: (exotica) Stuff Date: 11 Apr 2000 09:53:38 -0700 TB writes: > << Johanne and I are off to LA on April 29th for 10 days of r&r and > hiding from the telephone. I realize this is a floodgate kind of > question, but what should we do there? > >> > > Dresden Room to hear Marty and Elaine. Trader Vic's at the Beverly Hilton. > Lava Lounge (real smokey but great DJ on the weekends). Hmmm. I was there (Trader Vic's) last Friday night. No music to speak of. Smoking in bars is of course now illegal in California. Some bars however choose not to enforce this law and are willing to pay the fines should they be busted. I did not find Trader Vic's smokey. This of course may be due to the fact that I was consuming two Scorpions for Four by myself. Love those two foot long straws... Erik www.swankradio.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Fritz the Cat soundtrack Date: 11 Apr 2000 13:18:36 EDT In a message dated 4/11/00 8:08:36 AM US Eastern Standard Time, Charles_Moseley writes: << This should be around >> There is a CD available on the Fantasy label which contains both the Fritz the Cat soundtrack and the Heavy Traffic soundtrack on one disc. I was considering buying it myself. Amazon has it. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: fritz the cat soundtrack Date: 11 Apr 2000 19:10:01 +0200 you might want to get the cd: Fritz The Cat & Heavy Traffic CD, Fantasy FCD-24745-2, USA, 1996 The "eXotica Releases Overview": http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/disq/disq.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Stuff Date: 11 Apr 2000 13:35:18 -0400 At 12:53 PM -0400 4/11/00, Erik Hoel wrote: >>TB writes: >> Dresden Room to hear Marty and Elaine. Trader Vic's at the Beverly >>Hilton. >> Lava Lounge (real smokey but great DJ on the weekends). > >Hmmm. I was there (Trader Vic's) last Friday night. No music to speak of. >.....I did not find Trader Vic's smokey. Lava Lounge is a different place altogether. It's not located in Trader Vic's or the Beverly Hilton. It's in a strip mall on Sunset Blvd in Hollywood. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) women, men, music and Dan Fogelberg Date: 11 Apr 2000 13:49:49 -0400 At 11:10 PM 4/10/00 -0400, m.ace wrote: > >Regarding the observation that fewer women seem to get intensely interested >in music, I wonder if that might have been influenced by the advent of the >rock era, when music became very "cock-driven". Anyone have any idea or >evidence of what the situation may have been before rock? Heard of the Beatles? I think it's probably true that "fandom" has always been driven by young girls. Elvis, Beatles etc etc Duran Duran. This reminds me of comedian Dennis Leary's line about wanting to sue Dan Fogelberg over the fact that he didn't get laid in the seventies. I laughed but I wasn't sure what the joke was implying. Was it that Mr.Leary couldn't get laid because the women he met loved Mr.Fogelberg and he was nothing like him? Or was it because Mr.Leary listened to Mr.Fogelberg's records and he bought the image and he thought women would like him if he was like Mr.Fogelberg but in fact, he didn't get laid once in the whole decade because women may have said they liked Mr.Fogelberg's image but they really wanted Keith Richards. Or at least the women HE liked. I always thought he meant the latter but suddenly I'm not too sure. Anyway young girls were fans but the the pinups were as important to them as the music or the records. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) women, men, music and Dan Fogelberg Date: 11 Apr 2000 14:02:54 -0400 >This reminds me of comedian Dennis Leary's line about wanting to sue Dan >Fogelberg over the fact that he didn't get laid in the seventies. Perhaps Fogelberg's music didn't put him in the mood. It didn't do anything for me. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dymaxia@ripco.com Subject: (exotica) too funny to not share Date: 11 Apr 2000 13:07:42 -0500 I debated whether to share this with y'all, but I could use some good karma now, so here goes: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=304066691 BTW, I scored "Batman" by The Batmen at a thrift over the weekend, and I'm loving it. Another great addition to my growing "Popular Favorites" collection. -- Kerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) TB's Travels (Part 3) Date: 11 Apr 2000 15:40:51 -0400 At 4:27 PM -0400 4/10/00, Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: >Mr. Denny ........ humbly admits that some of his music was "campy" >(his words not mine) but in the same breath talks about the structure and >arranging of his more "complex" works. Yes, but was it Jazz??? (sorry, I had to do that) Thanks, Tiki Bob, for the lovely story br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obits] Richard J. Nance, Peter Jones, Alan Betrock Date: 11 Apr 2000 15:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Songwriter Richard J. Nance Dead at 64 NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Richard Jackson ''Jack'' Nance, who wrote songs for Conway Twitty, played with Elvis Presley, and worked with The Rolling Stones and Michael Jackson, died Friday of lung cancer. He was 64. One of his songs, ''It's Only Make Believe,'' which he co-wrote with Twitty, earned gold-record sales four times in the United States, beginning in 1957. Nance was born in Newport, Ark., and moved to Nashville to pursue a music career. ---- Just read on Usenet the announcement of the death of English actor Peter Jones, who was the voice of "The Book" in "Hitch-hikers Guide to the Galaxy" and frequently a panellist in the BBC programme "Just A Minute" among many other roles in a very long career. --- Also read on Usenet: Alan Betrock (49) first made his mark felt in the early 70s with a mimeographed fanzine called Jamz, and later started The Rock Marketplace...an early record collectors magazine. In 1975 he started the influential New York Rocker. After the Rocker, Alan wrote the definitive book on girl groups, called GIRL GROUPS. And then began publishing his Shake Books (documenting in various books and magazines the weird and wonderfull world of exploitation magazines and films). He also ran the shortlived Shake record label that put out records by the dB's and Richard Hell. Alan died on the morning of Sunday, April 9, 2000 at Calvary Hospital in the Bronx, NY. He had been diagnosed with cancer less than two months ago. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tikiman Subject: (exotica) off-shore drilling Date: 11 Apr 2000 13:55:18 -0700 (PDT) aloha y'all- been off-list and off-shore for awhile but it's good to see the lively list lives! please forgive any dated redundancies to follow. also, missed bj's last samba, but i chime in with a fondue adieu to mirthless know-it-alls. agree with br cleve's nod to Tiki Bob for the lovely story on Martin Denny. i called to wish him a happy 89th and he spoke of being contacted by Lions Intl to perform at their big convention here this summer. he wants Don Tiki to back him up a la the film fest here last november with guests Augie Colon and son Lopaka, Harold Chang, maybe Arthur Lyman. will let you all know if it's going to happen. ok, stop me if this is waay old, but here's some stuff that's i wanted to share/seek comments on... picked up these 2 at other music/nyc 1.Les Maledictus Sound- 1968/France... instrumental "freak out total" with many groovy, experimental tracks. 2.Vital Organs- a comp by Groovy Sounds Unltd & Mr. Fine Wine whose logo states "in between where it's at." wild, great off-kilter b-3 driven tracks that sound like the JB's. also, we just got our copies of the Wilp remixes from ata tak as my pardner, Perry Coma did the "Powder Puff" (Mascara mix). the whole project is very cool and should appeal to those who like their exotica revved up a bit. Last, looking for input on Femi Kuti's new release... anyone heard it? a lot of discussion of father Fela awhile ago whose music i love. Keely Smith's new one? anyone see "high fidelity?" i may be easily amused, but i highly enjoyed it, thought it captured spirit of vinyl fetishism quite well. best to all, it's good to be back! alohaderci, fluid floyd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Easy Tempo query Date: 11 Apr 2000 17:39:31 EDT How is the Easy Tempo comp that 's on Eighteenth St. Lounge? Thanks, bob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) off-shore drilling Date: 11 Apr 2000 17:48:06 EDT In a message dated 4/11/0 3:58:47 PM, taboorecords@yahoo.com wrote: >2.Vital Organs- a comp by Groovy Sounds Unltd & Mr. >Fine Wine whose logo states "in between where it's >at." wild, great off-kilter b-3 driven tracks that >sound like the JB's. FYI Mr. Fine Wine is a DJ at a soul night in Manhattan (and I believe he holds down a slot at WFMU) that meets every other month at different venues. They are known as "The Empire State Soul Club" and they have been around for nearly 15 years playing obscure uptempo 6T's soul, mainly on vinyl 45's. They have a following. In fact back in '90 my pal won a dance contest there one night. He was determined the winner by none other than one Billy Bragg, a certified soul aficionado. And the LP is pretty groove-funk laden. JB/collector of soul 45's # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: Re: (exotica) [obits] Richard J. Nance, Peter Jones, Alan Date: 11 Apr 2000 18:05:16 -0400 That's sad news about Alan Betrock. Shake Records was a fine label, and, as I got deeper into collecting 1950s scandal magazines in recent years, his guides were bibles. RIP. Will Will Straw, Associate Professor, Graduate Program in Communications McGill University 3465 Peel St., Montreal, Quebec CANADA H3A 1W7 Phone: (514) 398-7667 Fax: (514) 398 4934 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Free Design Is Back Together Again! Date: 11 Apr 2000 15:12:34 -0700 (PDT) I just read on the Spectropop list from a post by Jill Mingo that Free Design have gotten together for a new album. She even stated that they have a new song on the Beach Boys retrospective on the modern soft pop lable Marina, out of Germany. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) www.cinematica.it Date: 12 Apr 2000 00:24:33 +0000 > Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:22:48 +0100 > From: Reader Geoff > > Oh PS, Gionni, what about an Italian soundtrack site. Go on, you the man > for the job. I am sorry I can't help. I'm really not a connoisseur of Italian soundtrack music, and I could not be able to work up a webpage. Anyone has ever made a websearch to see if there's already anything on line? Gionni, too scared to enquire for his wu-tang name. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) women, men, music and Dan Fogelberg Date: 11 Apr 2000 20:58:02 -0400 >>Regarding the observation that fewer women seem to get intensely interested >>in music, I wonder if that might have been influenced by the advent of the >>rock era, when music became very "cock-driven". Anyone have any idea or >>evidence of what the situation may have been before rock? > >Heard of the Beatles? Are they Paul McCartney's old band? (as a woman who was certainly old enough to know better said) >I think it's probably true that "fandom" has always been driven by young >girls. >Elvis, Beatles etc etc Duran Duran. >Anyway young girls were fans but the the pinups were as important to them >as the music or the records. Yeah, good point. But a lot of those cases were maybe more about the boys than the music, at least for the women who didn't really dig into music, like our list-sisters did. I don't know, maybe more comment from them is necessary. Actually I was thinking more of the hard rock/heavy metal strain. But, uh... uncle! I knew this thread was too much for me. I'm just a simple android... what do I know about gender issues?!? M.A.C.E. - Mechanical Android Calibrated for Exploration ecam@voicenet.com http://www.workspot.net/~stratotwang/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) TB's Travels (Part 3) Date: 11 Apr 2000 21:24:24 EDT In a message dated 4/11/00 3:39:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bcleve@pop.tiac.net writes: << At 4:27 PM -0400 4/10/00, Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: >Mr. Denny ........ humbly admits that some of his music was "campy" >(his words not mine) but in the same breath talks about the structure and >arranging of his more "complex" works. Yes, but was it Jazz??? (sorry, I had to do that) Thanks, Tiki Bob, for the lovely story br cleve >> Well, he does use the term Jazz for many on his composures. I know the post was in jest, but he considers himself one of those fellows who in the early 20th century, helped pioneer the Jazz movement AMONGST THE CLASSICAL COMPOSURES. Hope this helps. tb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul thomas" Subject: (exotica) chevy to the levy Date: 11 Apr 2000 12:41:30 -0700 Hi William! You've probably accessed the American Pie lyrics page already and discovered their version of this lyric. Generally speaking, a levy is an earthen bank used to enclose bodies of water or to divert them. They'r essentially small lakes or largish creeks. I think they'r msotly in the southern part of the US, but I could be wrong. Levys or levees pop up frequently in song lyrics, especially jazz lyrics from the 20s and 30s. The local levee seems to have been the place to party. You knew _I'd_ be the one to respond, right? Paul Send FREE April Fool's Greetings to your friends! http://www.whowhere.lycos.com/redirects/American_Greetings.rdct # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Otto" Subject: (exotica) Shafty Date: 11 Apr 2000 20:09:15 -0700 Hey! I think Enoch's Shaft is GREAT. It's on a soundtrack music album on Command and it's very upbeat and Now Sound My fave though is Horst Jankowski who really rips it up with lead piano Aloha Otto # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) www.cinematica.it Date: 11 Apr 2000 23:59:01 EDT In a message dated 4/11/0 5:24:23 PM, giovanni@pirulazio.interim.it wrote: >Gionni, too scared to enquire for his wu-tang name. Gee, It Ought Not Need Interpretation...do I have Wu Tang yet?? JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Tower of Power/AWB (kinda long) Date: 12 Apr 2000 00:30:29 EDT It was a night of classic funky sounds as Tower of Power and Average White Band took to the stage at Boston's Avalon club. AWB opened with a suprisingly good set with Alan Goorie still singing and playing funky guitar and bass. The false tenor original had been replaced by a young buck who sounded just like the original fellow he took the place of. Playing lots of selections from the "white album", they also dove into their brand new one as well. Particularly interesting were two songs from "Soul Searching", perhaps their finest and least commercially noticed LP from '76. The inevitable "Pick Up The Pieces" included the extended jam and an audience participation segment that left me feeling jaded, but given that this was their only HUGE hit (along with the lesser-recognized "Cut The Cake") their overblown presentation on that particular selection was certainly forgiveable. All in all a solid B plus. Tower of Power is a horse of a different color. As mentioned here before, they are indeed the standard-bearers of Classic U.S. Soul and Funk. Taking--actually seizing--the stage, they quickly reminded the 1000 or so attendees, who hadn't seen them here since 10/93 that they "came to play" as the title of their 1978 LP says. Alternating between old and new songs, they showcased a new vocalist whose chops and showmanship are undeniable, a new keyboardist who played the most jaw-clenching, neck-snapping solo I have EVEREVER heard on their signature instrumental tune "Squibb Cakes", and their world-renown horn section who had the audience dancing en masse as they showcased their funky chops. After playing a sizzling one hour plus set, they returned to perform the requisite encore: "You're Still A Young Man" which stunned first time attendees (the ones with hair still containing color) nearly to tears. All in all a night of soul redemption...JB/renewing his "Soul Vaccination" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul thomas" Subject: (exotica) collections & gender Date: 11 Apr 2000 16:14:54 -0700 I've been away from my computer this weekend and I'm reading thru the digests that accumulated in my absence. Quite a lot seems to have gone on! This may be stating the obvious, but since I work in an antique store I thought I'd toss in my observations on what men and women tend to buy. ~~ For the most part, men are interested in 'gadgets' old radios, old phonographs, the slot machine, the old Coca Cola machine. Women tend to go for the decorative and utilitarian items like the Fire King Jadite kitchenware, restored furniture and kitchen cabinetry and the vintage linens. If a woman buys an radio it usually because she likes the way it looks. Whether it is a 1939 Philco tombstone or a 1945 Silvertone is probably not the main consideration. The vintage linen department is an exclusively female department! I've had where women have been pouring thru that area for hours...I've even forgotten they were still in the store! The vintage ktichenware is bought predominantly by women, some items for personal collections and some for actual use. The furniture is a mutual decision but for the most part the man usually ends up saying something like 'if you like it and it fits in, buy it.' Only a few times have I seen a man get really interested the furniture. So, there you have my perspective from behind the sales counter. One thing about collections and obsessiveness being an almost exclusively male domain...you should talk to a woman who collecting something like Fire King Jadite or, worst yet, pink Depression glass. They need just that _one_ particular piece...but haven't we all been there? Paul Wu Name: Flippant She-Creature CYBORG name: Positronic Artificial Utility Lifeform Send FREE April Fool's Greetings to your friends! http://www.whowhere.lycos.com/redirects/American_Greetings.rdct # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) collections & gender Date: 12 Apr 2000 12:04:05 +0200 paul thomas wrote: > The vintage linen department is an exclusively female department! I've had where women have been pouring thru that area for hours...I've even forgotten they were still in the store! Did these women wear huge incredible robes and did you often have the feeling that you had not noticed these robes when the women had come to the store? Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robbie Baldock Subject: Re: (exotica) Free Design Is Back Together Again! Date: 12 Apr 2000 11:20:21 +0100 chuck wrote: > I just read on the Spectropop list from a post by Jill Mingo that Free Design have > gotten together for a new album. Can I please ask everyone to keep this under their collective hats as it's not actually been confirmed yet and is still in negotiation. > She even stated that they have a new song on the > Beach Boys retrospective on the modern soft pop lable Marina, out of Germany. Yes, they've recorded a version of "Endless Harmony" for this album (Caroline Now!) which I believe is due out very soon. More info from http://www.marina.com/ Robbie Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Stuff Date: 12 Apr 2000 07:16:37 EDT TB recommended: << > Dresden Room to hear Marty and Elaine. Trader Vic's at the Beverly Hilton. > Lava Lounge (real smokey but great DJ on the weekends). Hmmm. I was there (Trader Vic's) last Friday night. No music to speak of. Smoking in bars is of course now illegal in California. Some bars however choose not to enforce this law and are willing to pay the fines should they be busted. I did not find Trader Vic's smokey. This of course may be due to the fact that I was consuming two Scorpions for Four by myself. Love those two foot long straws... >> Eric, there was no smoking in any bars except the Lava Lounge -- and it was a smoke fest. There is not music at Vic's --- just an assload of tiki ambiance. Eric might need to visit my alterpersona. I could make a house call to LA, but it is REALLY gunna cost you. TB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Stuff Date: 12 Apr 2000 07:24:41 EDT In a message dated 4/11/00 1:42:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bcleve@pop.tiac.net writes: << Lava Lounge is a different place altogether. It's not located in Trader Vic's or the Beverly Hilton. It's in a strip mall on Sunset Blvd in Hollywood. >> Sunset? I don't remember that. Maybe the Mai Tais were kicking in. I do remember that is was only a block or two off of Santa Monica on the left as you were heading towards Hollywood Hills (the big hill where the Hollywood sign is). It is actually in a rather run down strip mall like Cleve says. Not the type of place you would wander into. You have to be looking for it. Anyway, DJ on the weekend is very good. TB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Lava Lounge Date: 12 Apr 2000 07:43:45 EDT My anal retentiveness kicked in: Lava Lounge 1533 North La Brea Avenue, Los Angeles, CA 90028 (323) 876-6612 Between W. Sunset and Hollywood Blvd. Map: http://yp9.superpages.com/supermaps/mapinit.phtml?N=Lava+Lounge&PG=L&STYPE=S&S RC=aol&S=CA&AL=&MC=&map.x=212&map.y=125&level=8&lat=0340987&lng=-1183443&POI1l at=0340987&POI1lng=-1183443&POI1name=Lava+Lounge&streetaddress=&city=Los+Angel es&state=CA&zip=90028&LID=0002842937&LS=&display=1&AD=&GV=0&GL=&FN=&PP=&CID= Good luck, but remember the smoky comment. Reminds me of a song: Smoke, smoke, smoke them cigarettes! Tell St. Peter at the Golden Gate that yous hates to make him wait. We now return to our regular broadcast. TB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SLarry3595@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Lalo Schifrin's rarest LP Date: 12 Apr 2000 08:02:09 EDT Well, after 20 years of looking for this LP, and three years of looking for it on eBay, I've finally spotted what is probably the most sought after and hardest to find Lalo Schifrin soundtrack LP. Whoever is rich enough to buy it please tape it for me. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&tc=ps&item=305833496 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Lalo Schifrin's rarest LP Date: 12 Apr 2000 13:12:47 +0100 I have a nice mint copy of the Murderer's Row LP - very now sound, upbeat sixties instrumental pop music - pretty cool. anybody want a copy on tape? Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) More Lee, with Anne Margret (Trouble) Date: 12 Apr 2000 16:22:10 +0200 Looks like the album 'Trouble Is A Lonesome Town' came in three different covers: First Edition on Mercury, with Lee sitting on railway tracks and smoking. First lhi-edition with a psychedelic Lee painting Second lhi-edition, this is the one I gave you the link for, which apparently was only released in Sweden. Talking of Sweden... whatever happened to Magnus? >I did see a Lee CD on LHI about a week ago. that as far as I know hasn't been >re-issued yet. Poet Fool or (and?) Bum. i assume its an unofficial release. 'Or'. No, it's official. It's been out for a while and one of those 3 great Lee compilations, with 'Cowboy and the Ladies' and 'Love and other Crimes'. If you have these three CDs, you have the essential Lee. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Diamond Subject: (exotica) A Child's Introduction To Outer Space Date: 11 Apr 2000 22:09:53 -0700 Got a call today from this guy, who told me that the corporation he works for and the group of record labels that they own, just bought the Golden Record Label catalog. Golden was a catalog for children's records and they have already either released many titles and are sending me all of them or have released a few and are sending me those Noisy phone call, leaf blowers out the window and it didn't matter to me, I was happy regardless, know what I mean ? I'll call him at some point and find out any dates for release and what is actually out now and when what is slated for when. Dig ? ANYWAY, he told me that they were going to be reissuing "A Child's Introduction To Outer Space", which is a pretty damn amazing record, if you didn't know. They also bought some of the Columbia catalog that also released children's records and will be reissuing them on CD. I wonder what the f...is going on with FANTASTICA ? It's insane for me to think that the actual producer of Fantastica, the guy who owns the rights to it, has been negotiating for close to 2 years with EMI about reissuing it. I'm lost as far as who is what It was originally on Liberty, so that makes it EMI, now ? Everybody is buying everybody else and I don't know diddley-squat about who owns what AND I don't care:-) And then, slated for next month, though I don't think it's going to happen next month, is Rhino's 5 CD box set of stuff related to outer space and science fiction, called "Brain In a Box" Thought you'd all like to know that Later Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Thor Heyerdahl on tour Date: 12 Apr 2000 17:38:06 +0200 Sorry, Mimi, I couldn't resist to carry this out into public... Mimi Mayer wrote: > Can't recall > the context, but said that he's generally discredited by anthropologists > and Pacific Studies people. They consider him a quack and the Kon Tiki > journey a stunt, rather than a legit investigation of Polynesian > navagation. Jim found out about this stuff when he was working on his > Easter Island/Dutch novel. And when Jim visited EI to do research for the > novel, he got in contact with Easter Island specialists who dismissed > Heyderdahl's theory that the famous Island tikis had something to do with > the Incans. > > Sorry to be so vague here. Really don't remember. Hope this is useful when > Katya and you interview Heyderdahl. Sorry I can't recall any specific > names. > Yeah, yeah, with the decades truth and fiction mix. Those "specialists" and "scientists" remind me of those serious classical musician types who never considered Pop to be serious music. I guess you can find that in all kinds of professions. The grey mice are always jealous if one is more popular than they are. In fact Thor Heyerdahl didn't compare the Inca statues to the Easter island heads, but to certain pieces of the Marquesas; that was where he had lived for almost 2 years and where his raft had landed. Of course you can only make a phenomenological comparison, but as an artist "with an eye for things" I can only tell you that I agree 100% with Heyerdahl here. Those staues are not only similar, they are almost identical. There are theories commonly believed in scientist's circles that have much less evidence than this. But Heyerdahl also investigated plants, animals and agriculture of the two continents and found amazing connections. The main argument against him during the last years was the genetical one. The people presently living in South America and the people presently living in the Polynesians are genetically different. But if you read Heyerdahl more carefully you will find that he always talked about a certain tribe of comparably white, red-haired, bearded people, who according to his investigations have only lived for a short time in South-America and may have disappeared in the Polynesians by now, just like the 'long-ears' on Easter Island have. In early reports of the first Spanish seafarers, the discoverers of the South Sea islands, these white redheads are indeed mentioned. Of course it's very hard to confirm an unusual episode of pre-history of this kind, especially if it is about societies that didn't leave any written documents, but this genetical argument isn't very satisfying, because it just doesn't disprove the specific story Heyerdahl is telling in his books. The big historical merit of Heyerdahl, and why all Tiki afficionados love him, is that he had introduced those primitve South sea cultures to a lot of people. It was Pop, a combination of suspense, adventure and science. There is nothing wrong with it. To prove the possibility of sea travel with primitive rafts by just doing it practically, was a great innovation in ethnologic science. (He also practically showed how the heavy Easter Island heads were possibly cut out of the rocks and moved across the island). Heyerdahl fired like no other the beginning Exotica craze in the 50s, and because of all these popular side-aspects of his work, so called serious scientists have always dissed him. It's a problem of contemporary science, not of Heyerdahl. But I will try to ask him a few questions on these subjects to see what he thinks of it nowadays. He is 85 now and the reason why he's here is the release of his auto-biography. I guess we will read a lot about his fights with official science in that and I can hardly wait to get it. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Lalo Schifrin's rarest LP Date: 12 Apr 2000 11:56:25 EDT In a message dated 04/12/00 8:03:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, SLarry3595@aol.com writes: << Well, after 20 years of looking for this LP, and three years of looking for it on eBay, I've finally spotted what is probably the most sought after and hardest to find Lalo Schifrin soundtrack LP. Whoever is rich enough to buy it please tape it for me. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&tc=ps&item=305833496 >> and bidding starts at $ 99.00 !!!!!!!!! good luck to someone. geez. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dciccone@inspex.com Subject: (exotica) Lava Lounge Date: 12 Apr 2000 12:25:12 -0400 About the Lava Lounge being located in a run down strip mall..... I've got a copy of "The Blue Hawaiians at the Lava Lounge" and from the artwork on the cover you get the impressions it's right off the sand at the beach and all by itself. It's interesting how you romanticize about places that are far off and you may never visit. Thanks for the reality check. Domenic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Lava Lounge Date: 12 Apr 2000 12:47:16 EDT In a message dated 04/12/00 12:37:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dciccone@inspex.com writes: << About the Lava Lounge being located in a run down strip mall..... I've got a copy of "The Blue Hawaiians at the Lava Lounge" and from the artwork on the cover you get the impressions it's right off the sand at the beach and all by itself. It's interesting how you romanticize about places that are far off and you may never visit. Thanks for the reality check. Domenic >> This is very true, Domenic. There are some pictures on the "Shots In The Dark" CD that show the lava-ly interior. All the cuts are current artists takes on Mancini tunes. Our Brother Cleve has a nice cut on there with is very good, but IMO the CD is not to my liking. Too much electric guitar. Way too much. Not sucking up to Cleve, but his is the best track on the CD and about the only one I like. Most of the CD does not have the orchestrated feel that I like. I am curious if there are other comments out there. Back to Domenic's comment. Lot's of areas in Hollywood are a little run down. This particular shopping center is fairly run down. It has maybe 3 or 5 little shops, all with the typical extruded aluminum and glass fronts. The Lava Lounge is fairly small too. Probably about 1000 sq. ft. and a narrow affair. Still, it is one of the tiki-ish venues and deserves a little stop. There is a cover on the weekends for the DJ (a few bucks) and I am not sure if there is a charge during the week. TB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Lava Lounge Date: 12 Apr 2000 13:33:33 EDT In a message dated 4/12/0 11:37:11 AM, dciccone@inspex.com wrote: >About the Lava Lounge being located in a run down strip mall.... But then again, so is the Liberace Museum! And the Lava Lounge in Boston is in a HoJo's. JB/into the Conquest of Cool # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica)Mancini Tribute Date: 12 Apr 2000 13:38:19 EDT In a message dated 4/12/0 11:49:27 AM, Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: >There are some pictures on the "Shots In The >Dark" CD that show the lava-ly interior. All the cuts are current artists >takes on Mancini tunes. Our Brother Cleve has a nice cut on there with is >very good, but IMO the CD is not to my liking. Too much electric guitar. >Way too much. Any comments? I agree that its too guitar-based. And for Cleve to bring that whole orchestra together! The living room barely held 'em... But the Davie Allan and the Arrows take of "Experiment in Terror" is pretty freakin' gnarly. JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Swank reviews at Hitchmagazine.com Date: 12 Apr 2000 13:48:55 EDT Yeah, this is a self-plug, but check out the Music Reviews section of my=20 website, www.hitchmagazine.com. Read reviews of: Burt Bacharach: The Best of Burt Bacharach: 20th Century Masters =96 The=20 Millennium Collection Sunshine Pop 99 Ursula 1000: The Now Sound of Ursula 1000 Enoch Light: Spaced Out Chaino: Africana and Beyond! Erotic Dreams: In the Mood for Love Kinky Beats Eighteenth Street Lounge Soundtracks: Jet Society Air: Premiers Symptomes Stereolab: Cobra and Phases Group Play Voltage in the Milky Night Plone: For Beginner Piano Arling & Cameron: Space Club 1999 The Cinematic Orchestra: Motion Austin Powers: More Music from The Spy Who Shagged Me ...and the requisite "tons more." --Rod www.hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dciccone@inspex.com Subject: Re: (exotica)Mancini Tribute Date: 12 Apr 2000 13:40:46 -0400 In a message dated 4/12/0 11:49:27 AM, Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > "Shots In The Dark" CD that show the lava-ly interior. All the cuts are current artists >takes on Mancini tunes. Our Brother Cleve has a nice cut on there with is >very good, but IMO the CD is not to my liking. Too much electric guitar. >Way too much. Any comments? From Jimmy B >I agree that its too guitar-based. And for Cleve to bring that whole >orchestra together! The living room barely held 'em... But the Davie Allan >and the Arrows take of "Experiment in Terror" is pretty freakin' gnarly. JB That was a real band? I just thought Cleve was a wizard at the electronic keyboard. It's the only track, besides 4 Piece Suit's I remember. The space walk beginning and ending is nice too. Dreamsville! Isn't Four Piece Suit on that CD. Doing "Something for Cat" I have it on there "Ready To Where?" CD. They also cover "A Shot in the Dark" and John Barry's "Human Jungle" on that. The sax player Dave gives the band a real full sound that distinguishes them from the electric guitar rock sound. Domenic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) scroll down for Vinyl Date: 12 Apr 2000 14:08:43 -0400 My film is finally getting some press... http://www.globeandmail.com/gam/Film/20000412/TADOCS.html This one doesn't have individual pages but if you do a search on "Vinyl" you'll get there. http://www.nationalpost.com/ It ain't High Fidelity but the word's getting out. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Thor Heyerdahl on tour Date: 12 Apr 2000 13:48:47 -0500 >Sorry, Mimi, I couldn't resist to carry this out into public... Have fun, Mo, and let us know what Heyerdahl says about those jealous gray mice. Jim Bob just promised to write up something about Heyerdahl vs. the scientists tonight. Should warn you the phrase "crackpot theories" cropped up often in our conversation. Jim also credited Heyerdahl with some first-rate archeological surveys of some Rapa Nui/Easter Island sites...then Jim mentioned a story an islander told him when he was there. "Some of the islanders quickly cottoned to the fact that Heyerdahl was looking for evidence of South American influences on the Island. So they faked some artifacts, hid them in caves, then took Heyerdahl there to 'discover' them. Sure, the islanders were out to make some money [as guides], but they also were joking around at Heyerdahl's expense. This sort of thing happens with archeologists and anthropologists." All this is much more captivating than work. But I got a deadline tonight, pal. Round two later. Forwarded your post to Jim, too. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) A Child's Introduction To Outer Space Date: 12 Apr 2000 15:34:10 -0400 >Got a call today from this guy, who told me that the >corporation he works for and the group of record labels that they own, >just bought the Golden Record Label catalog. > >Golden was a catalog for children's records and they have already >either released many titles and are sending me all of them or >have released a few and are sending me those Cool. With any luck they'll reissue "Dance Mother Goose With A Beatle Beat" too. If you like twist records, budget rock 'n' roll, revisionist lyrics or all of the above, you would enjoy that. Or a comp of their novelty singles would be fun. They did lots of licensed cartoon characters too. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Easy Tempo query Date: 12 Apr 2000 16:18:11 -0400 HOUSEOBOB@aol.com wrote: > > How is the Easy Tempo comp that 's on Eighteenth St. Lounge? It's a good CD, but I think there's a lot of overlap from the Easy Tempo CDs themselves (it could all be from them, for all I know - I only have two, and there are duplicated tracks from them here). It's stronger than the Easy Tempo compilations themselves, though (imho) - but it's not as good as most of the other stuff on Eighteenth Street Lounge (the "Jet Society" compilation is much stronger). Recommended, but only if you don't already have all the Easy Tempo series of CDs, and you really like this kind of music (Although I think that the Lee Selmoco Orchestra track is worth the price of the CD alone!) cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica)Mancini Tribute Date: 12 Apr 2000 16:35:03 EDT In a message dated 04/12/00 1:41:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DJJimmyBee@aol.com writes: << And for Cleve to bring that whole orchestra together! The living room barely held 'em... >> i heard all the members of the orchestra are midgets and that is how he can fit them in to small spaces, such as your living room. TB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "The Back Ward" April 12, 2000 Date: 12 Apr 2000 20:38:17 GMT "The Back Ward" can be heard Wednesday mornings at 10 on CFRU 93.3fm in Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Comments & questions welcome. Also available in RealAudio http://www.uoguelph.ca/~cfru-fm/ Mas Qua Nada - Warren Kime/Brass Impact, from "Brass Impact" Watch Out! - Hugo Montenegro, from "Man From Uncle" OST Sunday, Art and Football - Stu Phillips, from "Hell's Angels on Wheels" OST The Thief - Roy Budd, from "Diamonds" OST Here and There - Frank Pleyer, from "Romantic Mood 2" Who Will Answer? - Ed Ames, from "Best of..." Sign of the Queen - Noel Harrison, from "Collage" Tuareg - Gal Costa, from "Gal" Vou Recomecar - Gal Costa, from "Gal" Money, Money, Money - Frankie Burke, from "at The Jack O'Lantern Resort" All Is Well - New Creation, from "Troubled" Visions - The Looking Glasses, from "30 Seconds Before The Calico Wall" White Cat Heat - The Godz, from "Contact High" Virgin Forest - The Fugs, from "The Fugs Second Album" Earth (exc) - Lulu Cortez & Ze Ramalho, from "Earth/Air/Fire/Water" Tete et que du dragon - Luc Ferrari, from "Early Modulations" that's all. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica)Mancini Tribute Date: 12 Apr 2000 17:05:00 -0400 At 1:40 PM -0400 4/12/00, dciccone@inspex.com wrote: re: "Shots In The Dark"/"Dreamsville" >That was a real band? I just thought Cleve was a wizard at the electronic >keyboard. It's the only track, besides 4 Piece Suit's I remember. The >space walk beginning and ending is nice too. Dreamsville! no, it's all electronic, except for the wordless vocals. Only half of the original track appears on that CD, as the label didn't want to pay the extra royalty that are required when a track is longer than 5 minutes. The full 7 minute version is available on The Gentle People's compilation "Music To Watch Comets By" (Flavour Of Sound, Japan) >Isn't Four Piece Suit on that CD. Doing "Something for Cat" yup br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica)Mancini Tribute Date: 12 Apr 2000 17:51:40 EDT In a message dated 04/12/00 5:10:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bcleve@pop.tiac.net writes: << no, it's all electronic, except for the wordless vocals. Only half of the original track appears on that CD, as the label didn't want to pay the extra royalty that are required when a track is longer than 5 minutes. The full 7 minute version is available on The Gentle People's compilation "Music To Watch Comets By" (Flavour Of Sound, Japan) >> and the last track on the CD (not on the liner notes) is about 3 minutes long and is silence for the first minute and a half, followed by a little noise (i forget of what) and then another minute of silence. i have no idea what that is about and Cleve did not even know it was on there! TB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Lalo Schifrin's rarest LP Date: 12 Apr 2000 18:00:47 EDT << << Well, after 20 years of looking for this LP, and three years of looking for it on eBay, I've finally spotted what is probably the most sought after and hardest to find Lalo Schifrin soundtrack LP. >> Actually, there are two up for grabs right now, Larry. Here is the other, which shows a pic: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300912157 Murderer's Row is high on my "tough" list of sought after 60s soundtracks too. Others on my list pop up all often but bidding is just too fierce. Bedazzled, Honey West and Modesty Blaise are the first to come to mind. They always go for good money, far beyond Osbornes price guide. One day, I'll probably fork over the cash for these, even though I seriously doubt they will meet my high expectations. John Barry's "The Wrong Box" and Tom Dawes "Minx" I've all but given up on. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Diamond Subject: Re: (exotica) Lalo Schifrin's rarest LP Date: 12 Apr 2000 15:35:08 -0700 I sold "Murderer's Row" to Ashley Warren a few years ago for $65.00, I think. I think that's also what I paid for it The keywords here are "I sold" If it was amazing, I wouldn't have sold it. It's not amazing, but that's just me:-) Bullitt is good, but not GREAT. It's a good record, just my opinion. NBD I just scored a sealed/stereo copy of "Kelly's Hero's", which I have not yet cracked open or heard. Don't see that around too often, at least I don't Isn't the music the main priority ? As opposed to having to get the original on LP ? For me and only me, it's the music I don't care what the format is and if I happen to find it on LP and I can afford it, then great. If not, oh well, I still have the CD and the music Bullitt's on CD. So what's the problem ? NOW, give me a few hours off and I'll come up with some SERIOUSLY great soundtracks for ya, like "Up The Down Staircase" by Fred Karlin Ford wants that record SO BAD!!! That's Howard Roberts on guitar on Bullitt, btw Jack jackdiamond dot com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: (exotica) quick question about cds (and cd stores) in italy Date: 12 Apr 2000 21:07:49 -0700 Folks, Just wondering whether those Italian soundtrack CDs were actually cheaper in Italy (as opposed to the US). Also, are there any good CD stores you folks could recommend in Rome and Florence that are *very near* the major tourist attractions? Please reply to me offlist if you wish. Thanks in advance, Ben http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/ ICQ# 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) More Lee, with Anne Margret (Trouble) Date: 13 Apr 2000 15:53:43 +1000 on 13/4/00 12:22 AM, Moritz R at exotica@web.de wrote: > > Looks like the album 'Trouble Is A Lonesome Town' came in three > different covers: > > First Edition on Mercury, with Lee sitting on railway tracks and > smoking. > First lhi-edition with a psychedelic Lee painting > Second lhi-edition, this is the one I gave you the link for, which > apparently was only released in Sweden. I have an Australian release of this on a budget label which has a photo of an Austalian country town on a dirt road and a gum tree!! Philip -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) emperor norton stuff Date: 13 Apr 2000 11:06:06 +0100 I bought the Arling & Cameron (Music for Imaginary Films) and DJ You DJ Me (Rainbows and Robots). The Imaginary Films LP, while not quite as on the D'n'B tip I was expecting, I'm really starting to love. A bit of a mix of styles (one track is an attempt at UK garage that doesn't quite work) but it has some sublime moments. One track is a beautiful blend of Morricone orchestrations and a gentle sequenced pulse that is just wonderful. Sorry I'm at work and don't have the titles. Theres a nice bit of soft pop, a Bossa Nova (and a heavier Samba version), and a bit of spooky Theremin too. Rainbows and Robots hasn't been such an instant hit. Side 1 and 2 (of 4 - its the LP) have some goodies, its in quite a mid 90's groovy ambient style, some Kraftwerk moments, some similarities to the mellower Propellerheads tracks. For some reason it makes me want to play my Juan Atkins / Model 500 LP's. Overall, I'm not quite sure. But I'm still playing it, so its obviously giving some pleasure. I think space bop were playing some tracks off it recently. Not quite the Easy experience I was expecting, perhaps thats it. Anyone else have comments? Thanks El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ Spunky Misunderstood Genius # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Easy Tempo query Date: 13 Apr 2000 10:37:21 -0400 Actually, I just checked the little booklet that came with the CD, and all the tracks are credited as to their sources - while not all of them are from Easy Tempo compilations, the majority of them are. cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Thor Heyerdahl on tour Date: 13 Apr 2000 16:55:38 +0200 Mimi Mayer wrote: > Have fun, Mo, and let us know what Heyerdahl says about those jealous gray > mice. Well, what a wonderful evening! Thor Heyerdahl is really as nice and charming as I expected, and as smart. He's only 4 years younger than Martin Denny, so you could say, they are the same generation - and I think even related characters (as far as I know from all the descriptions I got from people who had met Martin Denny personally). Mr. Heyerdahl was always ready for a joke, and although he had some serious issues, never took things or himself all-too-serious. Talking to him and hearing him talk was like looking into a big book of eternal wisdoms, like when he talked about the relationship between man and nature, that he sees as basic for the understanding of the path modern industrialized societies takes. I was amazed of in how many statements I agreed with him. Now, as for the two points that I promised to ask him... 1st, his reputation amongst established scientists. For one thing, Heyerdahl is a scientist himself, he studied biology in Oslo in the first place and later geography. When he was a young student - he obviously likes to tell this story when asked about why he started the Kon Tiki adventure - the thing he realized at university was the fact, that no scientist ever used to exchange his knowledge with scientists from other fields. All the specialists always remained within their own subjects, which Mr.Heyerdahl saw as very uneffective and unhelpful for scientific investigation. It was really like this: The biologists were investigating the culture plants of the Polynesian islands (sweet potatoe f.i.) and animals (dogs!), but if asked, where they supposedly came from in the first place, they said, "that's not our business, it's the field of the antropologists". And Heyerdahl, who knew that these species were existing in South America thought, they cannot possibly have come there by themselves, soemone must have brought them there. However, after his world-famous Kon Tiki trip Heyerdahl wasn't known as a scientist yet in the world; many just thought, who cares for a Norwegian adventurer, a son of the Vikings, and of course they were not happy at all, that this raft journey had destroyed all their theories about sea travel in early history. 2nd, the genetical researches... Heyerdahl claims he was the first who started to investigate the genetical relations between the people of South America, the South Seas and South East Asia, by doing systematical blood tests; one of the results was the total missing of blood group B in the South Seas, a group that is very common in South East Asia, so it was impossible that the migration had come from there directly. He also pointed out, that he had never claimed that the South Seas were ONLY settled from one side, he had always said from both sides, but how exactly did it happen? Apparently the situation is much more complex. Some of the genetical qualities of the mitochondria can be raced back as far as 20.000 years, a period of time, when all kinds of pre-historic wanderings have taken place, including the settling of America from Asia via the Aleutian landbridge. Mr. Heyerdahl said, he is still working with scientist teams in Canada and Peru on these questions and they are doing genetical tests all over the world. The latest trace lead them to investigate the Red Indians in North America, and he added with a smile, they are afraid to give away their blood, so it's very difficult. Of course I couldn't step into the subject of genetics so deeply in that situation; after all the reason why he was there, was to introduce the German edition of his 2 years old auto-biography, called "I Adams fotspor", "In search of Adam". or so. But I am sure the last word isn't yet spoken in this controverse matter. I just had the impression that Heyerdahl is very thorrow in his theories and not that easy to satisfy with unproven facts. Unfortunately I couldn't join the Heyerdahl group for dinner, but my girlfriend Katja did, and she has an interview of her own. which I might translate into English for all of you one day. BTW: Heyerdahl could speak german very well, as well as a couple of other languages. As for me, I went to see Herbie Hancock in concert. It was his 60th birthday - he looked much younger though - and it was abolutely fabulous. All the discussions of this list of the last 3 months came to my mind when hearing them play and I had a lot to let my mind circle around questions like the differences of Jazz and Exotica, improvisation and arrangement, entertainment and performance, male and female art (the drummer was a "she", my age and great!). It was a beautiful day. Christian Kellersmann, who had invited me to this, told me that very soon there will be a couple of CDs of reissues of Brazilian music coming out on Universal Jazz. So be prepared, boys and girls! Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Lalo Schifrin's rarest LP Date: 13 Apr 2000 11:13:21 -0400 At 6:00 PM -0400 4/12/00, BasicHip@aol.com wrote: >Murderer's Row is high on my "tough" list of sought after 60s soundtracks too. >Bedazzled, Honey West and Modesty Blaise are the first to come to mind. They >always go for good money, far beyond Osbornes price guide. 'Modesty Blaise' is disappointing, but the others are pretty top notch, imho. Every track on 'Murderer's Row' and 'Honey West' isn't a killer, but the ones that are are *really* killer. Lots of groovy Thomas electronic organ on MR, just like on the Flint albums. HW is top notch crime jazz, although my fave track is 'Sweet Honey', a very sensuous alto sax led number. "Bedazzled" is worth every cent it goes for these days (in the $200+ range it seems); except for the singing nuns piece, every track is amazing. It could be the best Now Sound record of them all. It got bootlegged last year, but I never saw a copy of it anywhere. Astroslut covers the theme on their new album, and the Cook/Moore version is on a couple of boots; 'Strip Club' is on the recent "Discotheque Vol 1" bootleg. Maybe somebody will reissue the original LP when the new film version comes out, or when Dudley Moore dies. Maybe.......... >John Barry's "The Wrong Box" and Tom Dawes "Minx" I've all but given up on. yeah, those two are very tough to find. "The Wrong Box" had the worst distribution of any of the Mainstream soundtracks, for some reason, and stereo copies are especially elusive. I saw a copy at Footlights Records in NYC a few years back for about $150 br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-tikievents@slick.org Date: 12 Apr 2000 23:03:44 -0700 Check out DJ Otto at Radio Valencia (23rd and Valencia) Thursday April 13th from 7:30 til 11:30 Sender: owner-tikievents@slick.org Precedence: bulk hear exotica, surf, and more. Aloha Otto otto@tikinews.com www.tikinews.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to majordomo@slick.org and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the subject). For web-based help, go to: http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Lalo Schifrin's rarest LP Date: 13 Apr 2000 16:25:06 +0100 "Bedazzled" is worth every cent it goes for these days (in the $200+ range it seems) I know its all subjective but I disagree with this one. I think the Bedazzled soundtrack is a bit lame. I own the crappy Harkit bootleg and just don't see what the fuss is about. What am I missing here? Charlie the philistine +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Blahut, Jr." Subject: (exotica) A. Lyman? Date: 13 Apr 2000 10:53:53 -0500 can anyone tell me about the music of arthur lyman? i cam across some of his cd's on the ryko disc sight and it sounds intriguing. thanks, robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Lalo Schifrin's rarest LP Date: 13 Apr 2000 12:11:08 -0400 >number. "Bedazzled" is worth every cent it goes for these days (in the >$200+ range it seems); except for the singing nuns piece, every track is >amazing. It could be the best Now Sound record of them all. It got >bootlegged last year, but I never saw a copy of it anywhere. Astroslut >covers the theme on their new album Also covered nicely by Bongwater on "The Power Of Pussy". What's Ann Magnuson up to these days, anyway? thanks, m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bump Subject: Re: (exotica) Lalo Schifrin's rarest LP/Bedazzled? Date: 13 Apr 2000 12:29:52 -0400 whatever you are missing, i am too Charlie. i do love the Theme Song sung by Cook during the tv go go show (as well as its companion version by ASTROSLUT!) AND Raquel Welch in general but as for the film and the soundtrack, i found it very disappointing after all of the hubbub and the $200 deposit i had to put on it to rent it! bewildered bump >"Bedazzled" is worth every cent it goes for these days (in the >$200+ range it seems) > >I know its all subjective but I disagree with this one. I think the >Bedazzled soundtrack is a bit lame. I own the crappy Harkit bootleg and >just don't see what the fuss is about. What am I missing here? ******************************** Bump Universal DJ Defective Records bumpy@megsinet.net http://www.defectiverecords.com "Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: (exotica) "Angels From Hell" OST Date: 13 Apr 2000 17:18:02 GMT If anyone has the -- extremely hard to find -- "Angels From Hell" OST by Stu Phillips (avec the Lollipop Shoppe and the Peanut butter Conspiracy) I'd love to have a CDR or a tape of it. If you have it let me know and maybe we can arrange something. Thanks JBrouwer ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) A. Lyman? Date: 13 Apr 2000 19:54:40 +0200 For any information on basic questions of the Exotica Mailing List please check out the FAQ at http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Moritz.Reichelt/exofaq.html and follow the links. Arthur Lyman, as well as Martin Denny, Esquivel and Les Baxter, is estimated as one of the leading artists this list is about. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Lalo Schifrin's rarest LP/Bedazzled? Date: 13 Apr 2000 13:37:24 -0400 Bump wrote: > i found it very disappointing after all of the hubbub and the $200 deposit > i had to put on it to rent it! You had to put a $200 deposit down to rent