From: jschwart@voicenet.com Subject: (exotica) Hai Karate Date: 01 Jan 2001 06:01:00 On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 08:57:14 -0500, Brian Phillips wrote: >...you are missing a good deal on Ebay right now. "Karate" by the >Emperor's (that's how they spelled it!). I don't know what constitutes a "good deal" by Ebay standards, but that's a really common record and would probably never cost more than a dollar at a record show. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Quarterman" Subject: (exotica) wants lists Date: 01 Jan 2001 16:13:54 -0000 Hi i'm currently having a clear out so if any of the list members have wants lists please send them to me and I will see if i can help you out cheers!!!!! Rob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: (exotica) Introduction - The Closing of the Kahiki Date: 01 Jan 2001 13:31:26 -0500 Happy New Year everybody.... The event may have happended four months ago, but I decided to forward to this exotica group an article that I wrote about the final closing party for the Kahiki restaurant this past August. These are based on my own personal observations. Because of the length of the article, I have split it into 5 different sections .... they should be arriving soon after this introduction message. This article has been printed in the latest issue (#13) of Scram magazine, which should now be available from various of the smaller and hipper music stores and newstands across the country. Scram is one of those publications that looks favorably on the pleasures that can be found in thrift-store LP bins and I think many on this list will enjoy it. (#13 also has an article about Bob Dylan sound-a-likes and guys who sing like girls ((Frankie Valli, Lou Christie, etc) Subscription information for Scram (get a free CD!), past cover graphics images, and other information about Scram can be found at http://www.scram-magazine.com/ Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: (exotica) Part 1 of 5 The Closing of the Kahiki Date: 01 Jan 2001 13:35:06 -0500 'The Closing of the Kahiki ' as witnessed by Vern Stoltz- Part 1 of 5 ‘Sad soul, take comfort, nor forget that sunrise never failed us yet.” - Celia Layton Thaxter Many, many years ago – well, actually more like 40 years ago, America experienced a golden era where there was a fondness for all things tiki. Musicians like Martin Denny reached the tops of the charts with bird-call enhanced songs such as '‘Quiet Village'’ and restaurants with elaborate Polynesian decors were built all over the country. Unfortunately golden moments do not last forever – what was once strange, fun and exotic becomes accepted and taken for granted, and after a few years the public’s desire for something new and striking led them elsewhere. The music on the radio was the first thing to change, and then if one watched very carefully through the years, they would notice as the Polynesian restaurants lost their glamour and simply vanished away, one by one. The Kahiki restaurant was one of the grandest of the exotic Polynesian restaurants. It wasn’t located in the warm climates of California or Florida, but far from the oceans in the city of Colombus, Ohio, where it thrived by providing a warm tropical setting for those cold-nosed Northerners unable to afford to travel south every winter. Just as the frozen tundra of Siberia provided a suitable preserving habitat for a long-dead wooly mammoth, the climate and people of Colombus provided a suitable habitat to keep the Kahiki operating since it was built in 1961. While other grand Polynesian restaurants slowly faded away, the Kahiki remained, where it was acclaimed in Sven Kirsten’s recent and fantastic ‘The Book of Tiki’ as one of the top two remaining Tiki Temples in the country. But sometimes even being one of the top two is not enough to keep something alive. Even the grand and powerful wooly mammoth eventually succumbed to its changing environment, and the same fate was soon to reach the Kahiki. It wasn’t the cold weather that finished the Kahiki, instead it was a combination of more modern ills, including a deteriorating neighborhood, a difficult to maintain infrastructure, and a generous financial offer from a national drugstore chain with deep pockets who desired the underlying real estate. The Kahiki was sold this past summer, and will soon be demolished. On August 26, 2000, a final private party was held at the Kahiki. Word had spread around the world that this historic landmark building would soon be gone, and many wanted to take the trip – damn the airfare cost – to see the building one last time in its full glory. I was one of the people who made this trip. It would be only my second trip to see the Kahiki, the first being two years previously when I saw a special performance by the band Combustible Edison. My memories of that first evening consisted of being astounded by the amazing architecture of the Kahiki, enjoying the friendly and creative ambience that results when dozens of tiki fans meet in full regalia, and drinking perhaps a few too many mai-tais. (to be continued) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: (exotica) Part 2 of 5 The Closing of the Kahiki Date: 01 Jan 2001 13:44:10 -0500 'The Closing of the Kahiki ' as witnessed by Vern Stoltz- Part 2 of 5 Two years later I was approaching the Kahiki for the second time. There it was, with its distinctive steep A-framed roof and its main entrance guarded by two gigantic Moai head carvings with flames flickering above. I got in line with the other guests, and noticed the various film crews outside, already documenting the evening. I also noticed the next two people coming to join the line behind me. Wearing a brightly colored tiki shirt and dress, my impressions were that they might also be tiki fans who had traveled great distances to be here. I was a bit surprised to instead discover that they were local Ohioans, and that he was a salesman for the Kahiki brand of frozen foods. With the enthusiastic outgoing demeanor often associated with salesmen, he told me of the growing interest in the Kahiki food brand, and how they had just expanded their distribution to include the Sam’s Club food stores affiliated with the huge Wal-Mart chain. Soon we were at the front of the line, where we received our floral leis and entered the Kahiki. At certain moments in one’s life, one enters an environment so rich in sensory pleasures, that one just simply wants to absorb everything that is happening and slowly distribute those moments of happiness throughout the rest of their life. This was one of those nights. It will be remembered by me as one of the best events I’ve ever attended in my life, and one struggles to capture the ambience of the evening in words. The gift shop had been pretty well picked clean by previous restaurant guests, but I was more than happy to purchase a few special items. Available for that night only were actual food and drink menus from the Kahiki, along with some special commemorative limited print posters. The bar was in full tiki splendor, the mai-tais being just as delicious as I remembered. One of the more popular drinks that evening was the ‘Smoking Eruption.’ A festive rum drink, it is served in a large goblet that has a middle cylinder filled with dry ice, allowing a cloud of fog to pour forth from your drink, bringing up visions of both a volcano and a witch brewing up some wicked potion. In the basement level was another bar, some DJs playing the finest exotic music, and a grand buffet spread full of gourmet Polynesian food that was so appealing and delicious, I felt as if I was on a four-star cruise ship on a voyage to Fantasy Island. Upstairs in the main room, right in front of the giant red-eyed tiki fireplace, Hawaii’s Don Tiki were about to start their performance. This band has done a fantastic job at replicating the sounds of the original exotica era, and they were the perfect choice to provide the evening’s music. The crowd of tiki fans and exotica aficionados were soon gathered in front – but before the music started playing, their attention was diverted 180 degrees to a large screen mounted high on the other wall. There, making a taped appearance was Martin Denny himself, giving a thank you and appreciation to the Kahiki for keeping the spirit of exotica alive for all those years. As his brief message ended, he turned around to his piano, and started playing the first notes of his hit song ‘Quiet Village.’ A few notes later, the musicians of Don Tiki joined in, and this symbolic musical torch had passed for the evening. (to be continued) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: (exotica) Part 3 of 5 The Closing of the Kahiki Date: 01 Jan 2001 13:48:47 -0500 'The Closing of the Kahiki ' as witnessed by Vern Stoltz- Part 3 of 5 The rest of the evening was spent catching up with various friends and simply wandering around the Kahiki, soaking in as much atmosphere as I could. One white haired gentleman, walking with a cane, became somewhat of a minor celebrity that night. Rumor was that he was the original architect of the Kahiki, or perhaps only the cousin of the architect. It didn’t really seem to matter – he represented a direct link to the original vision that created and built the Kahiki, and people were happy to have his presence there on this final evening. Also helping to bring some of that old-time exotica aura were some of the original bartenders from long ago. Suitably, they stood near the bar all evening, sharing old bartending war stories with each other and others who were nearby. I noticed that the majority of the tiki/exotica fans had planted themselves in front of Don Tiki. They became entranced by the music and felt their bodies succumb to exotic movements when the more energetic rhythms started playing. I noticed that the local Ohioans, perhaps a bit bewildered by the wild outfits and tattoos displayed by many in the tiki/exotica crowd, seemed to prefer the tables off to the side. These were the tables near the wall of tropical fish aquariums, or on the other side of the Kahiki, by the tropical forest, which even on this last evening was still receiving its nourishing thunderstorm every half hour. Several of the couples at this table were near retirement age, and I thought how to these persons, the main purpose of the night was not to attend some big party attended by a hip crowd. Instead it was to share one last final evening in a very special location with a loved one - perhaps to call an end to a customary weekend meal in a pattern that had been started long ago, or perhaps to remember that one winter evening forty years ago when he proposed to her. I walked by these people, letting them have their own private moments as they shared their final drinks together. Occasionally their moments of privacy would be interrupted by a bright light from a film crew’s camera, which happened to be capturing footage of a waitress as she delivered a tray of Smoking Eruptions to some distant table. At one point a local was rumored to be heard as saying loudly “Oh my God, they’re even filming in the restrooms” when the cameras ventured even those rooms to gather images of the tiki-headed water faucets. Back in the basement level, the main buffet had been cleared away and replaced with a rich display of desserts. As I finished loading up my plate, I noticed that the man serving me the piece of Hawaiian toast was no other than Michael Tsao, the owner of the Kahiki. Rather than be satisfied with sitting with the main crowd above and have some newer employee handle the serving of the desserts, Mr. Tsao wanted to keep busy and feel part of the activities in the way that he knew how – by providing delicious food to people. Somehow it was so appropriate – his stewardship of the restaurant had provided pleasure to so many people over the years and in much the same way, he was now placing one final dessert onto my plate. (to be continued) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: (exotica) part 4 of 5 The Closing of the Kahiki Date: 01 Jan 2001 13:52:00 -0500 'The Closing of the Kahiki ' as witnessed by Vern Stoltz- Part 4 of 5 Upstairs again late in the evening, I ordered another mai-tai – only to hear that they had run out of mai-tai ingredients. Looking behind the bar I noticed that the shelves which two years previous had been full of various tiki mugs were now empty. That’s when it really sunk in for me that the Kahiki was closing. One takes for granted when in a richly decorated Polynesian bar that mai-tais will be flowing forever – so it was a shock to discover otherwise. I found myself thinking of the Don Mclean song that goes ‘drove my Chevy to the levy but the levy was dry’, but substituting instead the words ‘but the mai-tais went dry’ Fortunately, and contrary to the best exotica lover’s wishes, the world does not revolve around mai-tai, and I was able to order a Fog Cutter drink in its place. I continued my walking, and heard someone call out my name – it was the salesman that I had earlier met in line. He introduced me to some other members of the Kahiki salesforce. As I noticed how they all shared the same firm handshake, I was briefly peppered once again with more talk of grocery chains in my home area. They seemed very happy, perhaps being able for at least one night to associate the name Kahiki with a festive occasion and a hip crowd rather than a series of business meetings with grocery store chain managers. The festivities were still happening, as evidenced by those still dancing to Don Tiki, but sadness was rising as the evening’s minutes ticked away. One college-aged waitress said ‘What am I going to do? This was the greatest job in the world. I might wake up and be in a grumpy mood all day, and then I would come here to work, and by the time I was finished, I would be all happy again. You can’t help to be cheered up by this place. Where else can I work and be able to feel the same thing?” And then eventually Don Tiki stopped playing, and the giant red-eyed Kahiki fireplace seemed a bit sadder as the crowd slowly begin to leave the Kahiki, one by one. (to be continued) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: (exotica) Part 5 0f 5 - The Closing of the Kahiki Date: 01 Jan 2001 14:00:55 -0500 'The Closing of the Kahiki ' as witnessed by Vern Stoltz- Part 5 of 5 The Kahiki was a great place, fully deserving to be celebrated with one final fantastic farewell party. It’s easy to become saddened when thinking that the Kahiki will no longer be there. The video of Martin Denny helped set a great tone for the evening, but for me there was another celebrity presence in the Kahiki who many people may not have noticed. In 1959 - the same year that Martin Denny hit the top of the charts with ‘Quiet Village’ – the film ‘Black Orpheus’ won the academy award for best foreign picture. This film, based on the Greek myth of Orpheus and Eurydice, was set in Rio de Janeiro during the festive Carnival season and is recognized as a film classic. The success of ‘Black Orpheus’ jump-started a world-wide love for Samba, Bossa Nova and other exotic Brazilian music. The movie Black Orpheus stays true to the original myth. At the end of the film, one of the children present is greatly saddened by the death of Orpheus – he thought that the guitar music of Orpheus was so wonderful that it just had to be the main reason why the sun chose to rise every morning. Now that Orpheus was dead, the child worried that the sun would no longer have a reason to rise. His friend persuades the child to start strumming Orpheus’s guitar, and as the child does so, the sun begins to rise. Even though Orpheus is still dead, his powers have been passed on to a new generation, and the music continues to live forever. You might ask what does Black Orpheus have to do with the closing of the Kahiki restaurant? Well, a man by the name of Carlinhos de Oliveira, as a young actor, played the role of the child who strums the guitar that makes the sun rise at the end of Black Orpheus. Carlinhos, also known in Brazil as the ‘golden tambourine’ just happens to be a percussionist for the band Don Tiki. For much of the evening of August 26, Carlinhos was present, sitting as close to the giant Kahiki fireplace as one could get, and still playing his magical music for the Kahiki crowd. The same person who 41 years ago was responsible for the sun rising at the end of Black Orpheus was one of those creating music and keeping the Orpheus myth alive during the final night of the Kahiki. Carlinhos was the perfect guest to remind us that life still goes on after a loved one dies. The Kahiki may no longer be with us, but the sun still continues to rise, and there will still be many more things in our lives to celebrate. There will be those of us who help keep the Kahiki spirit alive. It’s alive in writers like Sven Kirsten, author of ‘The Book of Tiki”, and Otto von Streiham, current editor of the Tiki News zine who planned much of the activities for the final Kahiki event. The Kahiki spirit is in the musicians from Combustible Edison and Don Tiki and all other bands who help keep the exotic sounds alive, and it’s there also in the fans of exotica music and tiki-heads all over the world who savor and buy this music. The Kahiki spirit is alive in Michael Tsao, who is currently planning to rebuild another Kahiki restaurant in Columbus, and it is in all the local Ohioans who regularly had their meals at the Kahiki and kept the restaurant operating for 40 years. It’s even in the salesmen who spread the word about the successful Kahiki product line; which will help Michael Tsao to keep many of his employees employed and together until the new restaurant is finally built. Who knows, the spirit of the Kahiki may even be present in those unsuspecting shoppers at some distant out of the way grocery who decides to buy a Kahiki brand frozen food product, even though they have no idea that a grand restaurant once existed in the middle of Ohio. (thanks for reading - please forward comments to Vern Stoltz at itsvern@attglobal.net) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Leeeeee" Subject: (exotica) ghost of timothy leary Date: 01 Jan 2001 12:22:13 -0700 thanks to everyone who answered my apparently really easy question! i was worried it'd be some obscure single from nowhere. happy new year y'all! kevin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) The Magic Record? Date: 01 Jan 2001 14:51:10 -0500 Thanks everyone for the Magic Record info. I've forwarded it to the inquiring party. And thanks for the audio links, P. I forwarded them also. And of course, I got to hear it myself. I can see what Lou means by annoying, but it's also sort of charming, being very clearly from a whole other era. When kids might actually be wowed by something like that. happy nude year! m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com New! Predictotron21C predicting the 21st century # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Ken Burns's's Jazz Date: 01 Jan 2001 16:42:07 -0500 This year's PBS maxi-series from Ken Burns is on the subject of jazz. Starts airing next week. Mixed review here: http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2001/01/davis.htm Sounds like it's the gospel according to senior creative consultant, Wynton Marsalis. Sun Ra and Albert Ayler are among the non-persons who don't rate a mention. But it's supposed to have some really great old footage. Hopefully they won't slice it too thin. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: (exotica) big kahuna (wav) Date: 01 Jan 2001 16:46:33 -0800 (PST) What did Louie and Ella say about putting all your eggs in one basket? I should listen. I've been digitizing records onto my computer. I like doing a bunch of records at the same time. Sometimes 3 or 4 all in the same wav file. That way I can run the utilities at the same time. I had family over today and while we were playing scrabble and hanging out I digitized onto my computer the following 7 LPs: Bobby Darin Sings Ray Charles Pete Kelly's Blues Xavier Cugat, Cugat Plays Continental Hits Perez Prado, Pops and Prado Xavier Cugat, Viva Cugat! Sergio Mendes and Brazil '66, Crystal Illusions The Diamonds Meet Pete Rugolo This came out to a 234 minute wav file......that somehow got corrupted and I can not open. Something about a data tag missing or corrupted. I was able to convert it to a listenable mp3 file. (whew) but for some reason converting it back too a wav file gives me the same error. "A Valid DATA tag could not be found in the specific file" I put the file on a CD-RW. If any of you wizards who would want to listen to one of these LP's and give a shot at restoring it to a wav and then to a convertable mp3 let me know. -->Host Your Site For Just $9.95 @ http://www.buzzlink.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Risser Family" Subject: Re: (exotica) big kahuna (wav) Date: 01 Jan 2001 20:24:02 -0500 Wouldn't it be easier to just scrap the WAV file and make a new one? Just a thought. Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) 20 buck Les Elgart steal Date: 01 Jan 2001 17:57:20 -0800 >Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 11:38:17 -0800 >From: "Basic Hip" >Subject: (exotica) record collecting sob story >I'm in the E's of the Pop / Nostalgia section and started flipping thru Les >Elgart records. Not sure why, I certainly did not expect to find >"Impressions From Outer Space" (Brunswick) a rare 10 incher with a cover to >die for. BUT I DID!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pretty good shape, too (VG) and a steal at $20. I'm still working on investigating all the great $5 and down records there are to explore. I figure I'll get to the $20 and up records in a few hundred years. Next time take a digital camera with you, snap a pic of the cover and save yourself $20! I've found the best music in the most inconspicuous covers anyway. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) big kahuna (wav) Date: 01 Jan 2001 23:01:09 -0500 >Sergio Mendes and Brazil '66, Crystal Illusions The long title track is a terrific piece of psychedelic easy pop. Now there's a genre for ya. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: Re: (exotica) Music to be born to, music to die to Date: 02 Jan 2001 12:06:31 -0000 > Excellent! > > Alan told Me to do it! > > I can see the headlines allacross the US! > 'Exotica mailing list drove my teenage son to bizarre murder / suicide > pact' > > At last, the true meaning of the Exotica list comes to light, for all > these years, Alan's just been planting these suggestions in our > subconscious (using his various alter ego's to confuse and mystify us) > until at last his EVIL PLAN can be revealed. > > Happy New Year. And welcome to the 'real' New Millenium. (With the usual > caveats, but if the calendar suits Bill Gates then it suits the rest of > us too). > > El Maestro Con Queso > > djcheesemaster@yahoo.com > grr@brighton.ac.uk > http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm > http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > Spunky Misunderstood Genius > > > > >and on the deathbed I probably want to hear something like Celine Dion > >or Elton John, something that makes me rather want to go than to stay... > > I was ignoring this thread but that's an excellent choice Moritz! Better > still, if you could do a murder-suicide thing. Kill Celine and then turn > the gun on yourself. > > AZ > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Ventures, etc. Date: 02 Jan 2001 09:41:11 -0500 Responses to both comments, just my $.02 a little late... I am glad that the Ventures 2-fers were released, since it finally gave = me the opportunity to get a clean copy of A-Go-Go after *years* of trying = to find it on vinyl (this is before the internet, folx). I was = dissapointed by the remastering work done on these albums, comparing the new CD with my = old scratched vinyl copy was almost like two different sessions. The = remasters are not balanced the way the old vinyl releases were, with the Hammond = organ prominent way out in front and the guitars twangy. They were = remastered for a 1990s ear, probably by somebody whonever heard the original. As far as Dick Dale and the Dickheads, I think he is overrated. I saw = him this summer at the Club Bene in NJ and he was pretentious as hell, and = I think without any right to be. When he got on stage, and talked into = the mic, instead of welcoming and thanking the crowd, he complained about = the eq on the mic, he wanted his whimpy thin voice to sound more growly. I expected to hear lots of surf guitar and all that reverb, but he had = the nerve to play Hendrix covers (who hated surf music BTW), and Smoke on = the Water and even a Willie Nelson song! He put on a very long show, = little of which was original material. It sounded like a high school garage band = all over again. Give me a break. =20 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA= =B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=20 Charlieman=20 "Everything that can be invented, has been invented." =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 - Charles H. Duell, 1899=A0 =A0=20 =20 =A0=20 =A0=20 >=20 > I have several of the 2on1 CD on OneWay. They do sound very good. I > particularly enjoy the twofer of Hawaii 5-0/Swamp Rock, which = includes > Suspicious Minds and Proud Mary. I also have several of Dick=20 > Dale (He calls > his fans dickheads...) later efforts, Tribal Thunder and=20 > Unknown Territory. > These are excellent--the man rocks and hasn't lost a step. =20 >=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) fwd: Kava Tea May Impair Drivers Date: 02 Jan 2001 11:01:29 -0500 January 2, 2001 Kava Tea May Impair Drivers By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS HONOLULU (AP) -- There are no waiters or waitresses at Hale Noa, a quiet cafe northeast of Waikiki where an elixir known as awa is the only brew served. Owner Keoni Verity makes patrons belly up to the bar for bowls of the earthy-tasting South Pacific drink. That way, he can see if they're still walking straight after their third, fourth or fifth refill. ``If they sit at a table and order many drinks without ever getting up, they sometimes don't realize how the awa is affecting them,'' Verity said. The herbal root, also called kava outside Hawaii, is billed as a natural treatment for anxiety and insomnia. But some prosecutors think it may be too relaxing -- they're concerned about people driving after drinking it. ``I have no concern at all if people are sitting in a bar or a cafe and consuming kava to their hearts' content as long as they don't place other people at risk by getting behind the wheel of a car,'' said Jim Fox, the district attorney in California's San Mateo County. There, Fox's office prosecuted a man accused of drinking 23 cups of kava tea before driving, then weaving onto a highway shoulder. In December, a judge threw out the DUI case, citing lack of evidence about the tea's effects. A similar case against a kava tea drinker from San Bruno ended in a mistrial in October after the jury deadlocked. Kava tea has long been used in South Pacific cultural and religious ceremonies. Known as a natural alternative to muscle relaxants and anti-anxiety medicine, it's lately been growing in popularity along with other herbal supplements. And in Hawaii, awa use is seen as part of a movement to revive native Hawaiian traditions. Kava has varying degrees of potency, and the tea is the biggest concern. Kava tea is generally much more sedating than pills, Fox said. And Verity said a cup of kava tea at his bar is about four times more potent than a typical store-bought kava tea bag. ``Awa in general relaxes and soothes and creates a mild sense of euphoria and expansion, and you can kind of see that in the way people slow down a little bit both in their movement and their speech,'' Verity said. ``People just generally get more mellow.'' Kava does have a sedating effect, especially in the raw form, and can affect drivers in ways similar to liquor, said Keith Kamita, administrator of Hawaii's Narcotics Enforcement Division. Hawaii law doesn't explicitly ban driving while under the influence of kava, Honolulu Deputy Prosecutor David Sandler said. In most states, it is illegal to drive under the influence of any intoxicating substance, Sandler said. California is one of them; Hawaii is not. ``If you abuse kava, it's the same thing as abusing alcohol,'' he said. ``The difference is in Hawaii we can't prosecute it.'' Sandler said he didn't know of any specific cases of drivers getting into trouble after drinking kava. But he said it's hard to measure the kava problem because police don't test for the tea when pulling over drivers. Verity said the problem can be solved with public education and sound policies at kava-serving establishments. He said he does not serve anyone under age 20 and asks customers if they plan to drive. ``One of the first things we do is caution against driving,'' he said. Fox said he has endured a fair amount of ribbing for going after kava drinkers for DUI, but he believes the law is on his side. ``Unfortunately, it may require that somebody's actually killed before people become aware of the dangers of it, and that would be a tragedy,'' he said. ^------ On the Net: Physicians' Desk Reference for Herbal Medicines: http://www.pdr.net/ Hawaiian Kava Center: http://www.hawaiiankavacenter.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "byost" Subject: (exotica) First old rekkid buys of 2001 Date: 02 Jan 2001 18:07:15 -0500 Not that these are very remarkable. It's just one of those things I do at the beginning of a year. Flea market, all 50 cents or 1 dollar per. GUITARS UNLIMITED: Tender is the Night Listening to this right now and it's really good. Good combination of low-key EZ yet interesting arrangements and perky. Side one is all Brazilian. Somewhat confusing name, because of another outfit called Trombones Unlimited, and another called Exotic Guitars, both of which I also like. RAY CONIFF: Say it with Music (A Touch of Latin) RAY CONIFF: Hollywood in Rhythm Coniff is sort of a 'final frontier' guy for me. I've delved wholeheartedly into Percy Faith, purchased generously the records of Bert Kaempfert, even dabbled in the Melachrino Strings and (shudder) Montavani, yet for 8 years or whatever I have assiduously avoided buying anything Coniff because of some internal bias. I finally broke down and tested the waters. "Hollywood" is a little worse than I expected, although it looked like it would be good. "Say It" is quite a bit better than expected. I'll probably keep them both but not venture further with Coniff. DOMINIC FRONTIERE: Pagan Festival - An Exotic Love Ritual Seems this has been discussed here, maybe recently, and I don't remember what was said, nor have I listened to this yet. Neat silver-mirror-style cover and looks intriguing. MARTIN DENNY: Another Taste of Honey This is probably one of the Denny LPs that is 'ghosted' by other people, but I liked Denny's "Taste of Honey" so I'm trying this one too. I have a whole lot of Denny records but can't say I'm a major fan (sorry TB). FERRANTE & TEICHER: Midnight Cowboy FERRANTE & TEICHER: Love in the Generation Gap I usually avoid F&T but I have kinda wanted "Midnight Cowboy" because their version of that is so great. And "Love in the Generation Gap" has a great cover and weird-style half-fold-out gatesleeve design contrasting a "conservative 1960s couple" with a "hippie flower power" young couple. As expected, very hit and miss, but the Bacharach tunes are nice and the Vinny Bell sound-alike they got for Midnight Cowboy will make these keepers. -- Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tipsydave@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Soy Sauce Music/East to West Date: 02 Jan 2001 18:27:11 EST In a message dated 12/28/00 8:27:07 PM, basichip@home.com writes: << Speaking of oriental tracks, I came across this very nice LP (....) EAST TO WEST Paul Mark and his Orchestra Imperial LP 9120 recorded live at the Oasis Nightclub in Honolulu, looks like late 50s. instruments: organ and celeste; guitar; bass; bongos; percussions; samisen (similar to a banjo); koto and an occasional vocalist. see the cover here: http://www.basichip.com/new_arrivals/mark.jpg>> This is a very cool record; it's become one of my top favorite exotica lps. I got my copy at Amoeba records. Most of the melodies,and about half the musicians, are Japanese, and I love the instrumentation/arrangements. I bet this was an amazing group live. -dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Howard Subject: Re: (exotica) Ken Burns's's Jazz Date: 02 Jan 2001 18:59:56 -0500 "m.ace" wrote: > Solid sentiments, but you only sent it to me. Tell the list! > > bet Coltrane's "Ascension" gets the shaft too, > > --m.ace Dunno 'bout overlooking the 'Trane! But that part of his career, the mos= t > critically overlooked, dense, and obtuse... yeah I think it's a safe= bet that > 'Trane might be acknowledged for everything up to "My Favorite Things".= =2E. but NOT > the 57 minute version he did in Japan! > > > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: At 08:43 PM 1/1/2001 -0500, you wrote: > > (it's true... I really did...) > >I NOTICED SUN RA'S ABSENCE INSTANTLY. So, even though Sphere is ment= ioned > >(and probably Cecil Taylor is NOT) (and Ayler) (and the AACM) (and Ant= hony > >Braxton), I will abstain from viewing, and I encourage other lovers of= TOUGH, > >outside jazz to do likewise. > > > >"m.ace" wrote: > > > >> This year's PBS maxi-series from Ken Burns is on the subject of jazz= =2E > >> Starts airing next week. > >> > >> Mixed review here: > >> http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2001/01/davis.htm > >> > >> Sounds like it's the gospel according to senior creative consultant,= Wynton > >> Marsalis. Sun Ra and Albert Ayler are among the non-persons who don'= t rate > >> a mention. But it's supposed to have some really great old footage. > >> Hopefully they won't slice it too thin. > >> > >> m.ace mace@ookworld.com > >> http://ookworld.com -- Peace Out Choppa Choppa Bang Bang Hack=FC Maim=FC Where's da WUV=99? Sun Ra on your PC... The CyberSpace Ministry http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=3Dlitlgrey or go to http://live365.com Search keyword: Sun Ra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "The Workmans" Subject: (exotica) Sergio Date: 02 Jan 2001 20:15:22 -0500 I agree with your new genre assignment for Crystal Illusions title track. Do any of you all have any other favorites by Brazil '66? I really enjoy their music. Some of my favorites include, but not limited to: Reza, Moanin, Witchita Lineman, Dock of the Bay, Pretty World (probably my fav right now) and the later After Midnight. JWorkman, Dayton Oh (home of a Frank Lloyd Wright doctors office building--do his works qualify as exotica to any of you? I dig his architecture...Just to spark some conversation) theworkmans@mics.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) First old rekkid buys of 2001 Date: 02 Jan 2001 19:02:15 -0800 At 06:07 PM 02-01-01 -0500, you wrote: >RAY CONIFF: Say it with Music (A Touch of Latin) >RAY CONIFF: Hollywood in Rhythm >Coniff is sort of a 'final frontier' guy for me. I've delved wholeheartedly >into Percy Faith, purchased generously the records of Bert Kaempfert, even >dabbled in the Melachrino Strings and (shudder) Montavani, yet for 8 years >or whatever I have assiduously avoided buying anything Coniff because of >some internal bias. I find that very interesting in that I am somewhat wary of Percy Faith and definitely of Melachrino and Mantovani...but have very much accepted Ray Conniff for the occasional good cuts on most of his albums. For instance, I really get into his version of Mack the Knife on "The Happy Beat" (Columbia CS 8749). He uses a lot of wordless vocals on many of his albums which I always like. I do shy away from anything with the Ray Conniff SINGERS as that means the vocals are NOT wordless. I try to test the Conniff waters any time it won't kill me financially. Any other Conniff albums people like or dislike? I suppose there may be people who like some of the Singers albums...and others who dislike what I can get into. I may join the Percy Faithful soon, starting with the exotica titles...any faves in that arena? Can't see how the M or M strings would ever be appealing to me...but recommendations are welcome there as well. I buy theirs mainly for the covers! Byron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Ken Burns's's Jazz Date: 02 Jan 2001 22:18:50 EST I take it they'll "forget" to mention folks like John Zorn or the "loft jazz= "=20 scene as well. (hell, if they don't/barely mention folks like Bill Evans,=20 Benny Carter, & Stan Kenton...) Wynton's always been a musical conservative=20 anyway, but the scary thing is that people will watch this and think it's th= e=20 end-all/be-all of jazz and not be aware of the omissions. Granted, some=20 people might get hooked on jazz through the program and eventually stumble=20 onto Ayler, Sun Ra, Braxton, et al. on their own and the whole series is=20 supposed to be a "broad overview" anyway, but to not even (or barely) mentio= n=20 these people in the program ends up giving the viewer a very-skewed view of=20 jazz. (I'm assuming they won't exactly be focusing on the denser aspects of=20 Miles Davis's fusion years either....) Ranting on, DavidH p.s. Check out Valerie Wilmer's book "As Serious As Your Life" for a good=20 "new"/"free" jazz-information fix. Now THERE'S a book someone should adapt=20 for a series! In a message dated 1/2/01 4:05:34 PM Pacific Standard Time,=20 litlgrey@ix.netcom.com writes: << "m.ace" wrote: =20 > Solid sentiments, but you only sent it to me. Tell the list! > > bet Coltrane's "Ascension" gets the shaft too, > > --m.ace =20 Dunno 'bout overlooking the 'Trane! But that part of his career, the most > critically overlooked, dense, and obtuse... yeah I think it's a safe b= et that > 'Trane might be acknowledged for everything up to "My Favorite Things"...= =20 but NOT > the 57 minute version he did in Japan! > > > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: At 08:43 PM 1/1/2001 -0500, you wrote: > > (it's true... I really did...) =20 > >I NOTICED SUN RA'S ABSENCE INSTANTLY. So, even though Sphere is=20 mentioned > >(and probably Cecil Taylor is NOT) (and Ayler) (and the AACM) (and Antho= ny > >Braxton), I will abstain from viewing, and I encourage other lovers of=20 TOUGH, > >outside jazz to do likewise. > > > >"m.ace" wrote: > > > >> This year's PBS maxi-series from Ken Burns is on the subject of jazz. > >> Starts airing next week. > >> > >> Mixed review here: > >> http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2001/01/davis.htm > >> > >> Sounds like it's the gospel according to senior creative consultant,=20 Wynton > >> Marsalis. Sun Ra and Albert Ayler are among the non-persons who don't=20 rate > >> a mention. But it's supposed to have some really great old footage. > >> Hopefully they won't slice it too thin. > >> > >> m.ace mace@ookworld.com > >> http://ookworld.com =20 -- Peace Out Choppa Choppa Bang Bang Hack=C3=BC Maim=C3=BC Where's da WUV=E2=84=A2? =20 =20 =20 =20 Sun Ra on your PC... The CyberSpace Ministry http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=3Dlitlgrey or go to http://live365.com Search keyword: Sun Ra >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) Later Lounge #2 CD Date: 02 Jan 2001 19:29:35 -0800 there are 2 more at my Borders in Bloomington. Its a great comp, but imho the first one is better. If anyone wants me to grab one, just email me and I'll see what I can do, cant guarantee anything, since they might be gone by now. havent checkd Barnes and Noble, but they usually have the same mags as Borders. Later, jonny _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tikiman Subject: (exotica) Hau'oli Makahiki Hou! Date: 02 Jan 2001 20:17:50 -0800 (PST) Hau'oli Makahiki Hou! Hope everyone's staying warm + fuzzy during the mainland's iceage... an empathetic brrrrrrrr from all the photos we've seen. Here's an interesting article on modern life here by a New Yawker who mostly gets it right, 'cept his comment re "find performances of the real stuff as well as the hokum of years gone by". Don Tiki will be going back into the studio in the next 2 weeks to create "future hokum." Tried to send the whole article, but it is way too long so here's the edited version. BTW, re birth + death tunes... coming in I want to hear "Quiet Village" to know that the world is a warm + enchanting place. going out let me hear either the Staples "I'll Take you There" or Sam Cook's "Change Gonna Come." alohaderci, Fluid Floyd of the Spirits Taboo Records Honolulu: Pacific Crossroads, Deep in Hibiscus and History http://www.nytimes.com/2000/12/29/living/29HONO.html December 29, 2000 ON THE ROAD By R. W. APPLE Jr. HONOLULU The mythic Honolulu of grass skirts and towering palms has been familiar to Americans for generations. In 1866 Mark Twain came here as a correspondent for The Sacramento Union, extolling the beauty of "the dusky native women" in his dispatches and marveling at "a summer calm as tranquil as dawn in the garden of Eden." A century later, the biographer Leon Edel found "a beatitude of the leisure life," with hibiscus and plumeria blossoms on his lawn and "the sound of the ocean breaking with a regular beat." Gathered around their radios, our grandfathers listened to Webley Edwards and his long-running show, "Hawaii Calls." They heard Bing Crosby crooning "Sweet Leilani." They sailed west, some of them, on the luxurious Matson liner Lurline; here they discovered the charms of the ukulele, the lei and the muumuu, and the unfamiliar flavors of fresh coconut and pineapple. They bought Asian objets d'art at Gump's, Honolulu's emporium deluxe, now replaced, sadly, by yet another Louis Vuitton boutique. The handsome Duke Kahanamoku won Olympic gold medals in swimming, and later introduced the world to surfing, which he learned on the beach at Waikiki, where his statue stands today. Statehood and jumbo jets brought later generations to a more worldly city, made increasingly famous by celluloid images: Burt Lancaster and Deborah Kerr making love, or so we assumed, on a deserted beach; Elvis Presley singing "Can't Help Falling in Love" in "Blue Hawaii"; and, on the small screen, Jack Lord in "Hawaii Five-O" and Tom Selleck in "Magnum, P.I."... Rich in Music and Dance Music and dance have played a major role in Hawaiian life from the start; Don Ho did not spring from a musical desert. As Matt Catingub, the young conductor of the Honolulu Symphony Pops, gently reminded me, choral music has a proud tradition throughout Polynesia, especially in Fiji and New Zealand (birthplace, of course, of the great part-Maori soprano Kiri Te Kanawa). Over the years, the islands have developed a special affinity for ukuleles, adapted from the four-stringed braguinha brought here in 1879 by immigrants from the Portuguese island of Madeira; for slack-key guitars, tuned lower by Hawaiian cowboys decades ago to give a warmer, more "tropical" tone and to make them easier to play; and for the Hawaiian steel guitar, a horizontal instrument, with a singing tone created by a sliding steel fret. Mr. Catingub, jolly, dynamic and ponytailed, is the son of Mavis Rivers, the jazz singer, and his big band has accompanied Rosemary Clooney on tour. The symphony's musicians, he said,"have the ability to play anywhere, but they've decided that they would rather live here in paradise."... Meantime, new life has been breathed into traditional Hawaiian music and into the hula by younger musicians like Keilii Reichel, an instrumentalist, singer and hula master. The visitor can now find performances of the real stuff as well as the hokum of years gone by. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) First old rekkid buys of 2001 Date: 03 Jan 2001 01:24:23 -0500 At 07:02 PM 1/2/01 -0800, bag@hubris.net wrote: I agree that Ray Conniff SINGERS records are weak. But everything else is good, even great sometimes. I think all the wordless vocal ones, all the ones with "S" titles like "S'Wonderful" and "S'Marvellous", have some great moments on them. He never should have let the singers actually sing the words (but I have a theory why he did.) And his post-sixties records can be good too. If you find the one with the Theme From Swat (that may be the actual title) I recommend it. As far as Percy Faith goes.. again, the Percy Faith SINGERS are sappy. (I think that's true of almost all the sixties Singers records with the exception of Anita Kerr and a couple others. They always sang in unison. Harmony went out the window My theory is that they didn't understand rock and thought the lyrics were enough to sell it.) But Percy's instrumental records are almost all very very good. If you see a Percy record and you like the tunes, chances are you'll like the record. I wouldn't buy "Percy plays slow songs for old people" but I love his "all Beatle" record, his "Themes for the In Crowd", his amazing "Black Magic Woman". And in the exotica world, he has one called something like "exotic strings" which is very strong. And finally, I don't blame you for dismissing Mantovani but do not dismiss Andre Kostelanatz. I love a few cuts on every one of his later records I've ever heard. The early seventies ones where the girl's face fills the album cover. Records like "Last Tango in Paris", "Great Hits of Today", and "For the Young at Heart". HIs version of "Me and Mrs. Jones",, "Valleri", "September Song". I'm not sure how much Teo Macero's presence matters. There's just something about the arrangements. They're really really full with all kinds of things happening and yet everything is kind of quiet at the same time. It's like they're "loudly quiet". Of course I have gotten rid of almost all the records I'm mentioning in my millenial vinyl purge but I do have remnants on CDR's. Go buy them now! AZ > >I find that very interesting in that I am somewhat wary of Percy Faith and >definitely of Melachrino and Mantovani...but have very much accepted Ray >Conniff for the occasional good cuts on most of his albums. I do shy away from anything with the Ray Conniff >SINGERS as that means the vocals are NOT wordless. I try to test the >Conniff waters any time it won't kill me financially. > >Any other Conniff albums people like or dislike? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Ken Burns's's Jazz Date: 03 Jan 2001 01:34:25 -0500 At 10:18 PM 1/2/01 EST, Dj45rpm@aol.com wrote: > >I take it they'll "forget" to mention folks like John Zorn or the "loft jazz" >scene as well. (hell, if they don't/barely mention folks like Bill Evans, >Benny Carter, & Stan Kenton...) Wynton's always been a musical conservative >anyway, Is this Ken Burns thing on PBS or something? Is it on TV at all or is it just a rental? Anyway... there was no way this was going to cover all the bases. And it couldn't please everyone, especially given that there's a whole bunch of folks (moldy figs) who think that jazz ended in 1942 (or 41 or 40, whenever it was that the musicians went on strike.) It is too bad that Wynton is involved here and that his point of view once again becomes the official view of jazz. Then again, it could be worse. We have this guy in Canada on CBC Radio and Television named Ross Porter. He is "Mr.Jazz". He's the man. And he drives me absolutely fucking crazy. So on the one hand, it's kind of cool that they have a show on the national network called "On the Arts" and that they have some guy come on and tell you the best jazz records of the past year. But the bad news is that it's Ross Porter. If you want to call vocalists like (Canada's own) Diane Krall or (Canada's own and my former aerobics class pal) Holly Cole "jazz", I won't argue too vehemently. But when you do a list of "jazz" records and it's almost ALL vocalists, I get annoyed. With jazz you always have to be happy with small favours. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Eden Ahbez - Eden's Island Date: 03 Jan 2001 12:34:25 +0100 (This message of mine from the 6th of December 2000 never made it to the Exotica list:) Basic Hip schrieb: > Hard to believe anybody into "exotica" could so easily dismiss this > masterpiece recording. > > His is a fascinating story and I highly recommend hearing more of this truly > amazing album before offically putting it on your shit list. What fascinates me about this album is the comparably wide range of musical expression on one hand, instrumentals, chorus backing vocals and "spoken word" lead vocal pieces, and on the other hand this sincere guy: Here is someone who seems to go whole-heartedly for the idea of primitivistic music, art and living, I mean, someone who looks and lives like a hippie before 1960 is a visionairy to me. For him Exotica seems to have been a "message" and all the others are a commercial sell-out in comparison. At least that's what comes to my mind, when I hear the music and look at the cover. According to the liner-notes of the reissue Eden Ahbez was a barefoot bearded student of Yoga, called "the Hermit" or "the Yogi". When he gave the sheet with his composition of "Nature Boy", which was to become a #1 hit for Nat King Cole, to the doorman of the Million Dollar Theater in LA, where Nat was to play, he left no address or phone number, so they had to search for him, after Cole had recorded the song. They found him living behind the first "L" of the Hollywood sign in a sleeping bag, living from fruits, nuts and berries. This was in 1948! I also like this story: Eden later was married and even had a son, but the family still lived outdoors, their only possessions being a sleeping-bag, a bicycle and a juice-squeezer. Once stopped by an officer for his esoteric appearance, Eden calmly explained "I look crazy, but I'm not. And the funny thing is, that other people don't look crazy, but they are." The cop thought it over and proclaimed "You know bud, you're right. If anybody gives you any trouble, let me know." Micky McGowan in "Incredible Strange Music Vol.1": "Eden's Island sounds like: if Martin Denny had gotten together with Jack Kerouac, and Kerouac had gone to a desert island and not become a beatnik" Apparently Ahbez still lives! Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) First old rekkid buys of 2001 Date: 03 Jan 2001 12:35:17 +0100 Been to "The Collector's" in Bruxelles (yes, the capital of french fries and child molesting) and spent more than I should on two albums: 1. "Tropicale" (Warner Borthers, 1958) - credited to a Tommy Morgan with the (previously well known) orchestra of Warren Barker. A great find - after "Far Away Places presented by William Holden" *another* great find related to Warren Barker (why does this guy always seem to hide behind a supposedly star musician or actor?) However, the clou about this album is: It's exotica on harmonica! Sounds weird, but it works! Excerpt from the liner notes: "At present, Mr. Morgan has postponed his proposed European tour and has enrolled at his alma mater, University of California at Los Angeles, where he is studying his Master Degree in Music." Wrong decision if you ask me... 2. "African Jazz" - Les Baxter, an album that needs not be commented here, except: it's a vinyl reissue! And I have to admit: I fell for it; I actually thought I'd buy the original. I mean I didn't look very close when I was in that shop, I was just too happy to find it. Only on the way home I saw that it is in fact a reissue. It all looks pretty much like the original: the original catalogue number ST 1117 is on the cover, only any label name or logo is missing, no reissue info, it's intentionally designed to fool you. I'm not even sure if the sound is so great - I can't compare it to the original album. At least it has no scratches and except that I think I paid too much for it, I'm still quite happy with it. Has anybody seen this reissue and perhaps know which dark source it comes from? Another almost 100% exotica-related post by -Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) First old rekkid buys of 2001 Date: 03 Jan 2001 09:09:06 -0500 <> And don't forget his incredibly lush "Lure of the Tropics" - I don't think = you could've crammed one more instrument between the grooves on those = tracks!!! - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Ken Burns's's Jazz Date: 03 Jan 2001 10:06:00 -0500 >Is this Ken Burns thing on PBS or something? Is it on TV at all or is it >just a rental? No, it's due to be on PBS next week. You can buy a companion volume or the tapes if you wish. I agree that Jazz does seem to get short-shrifted a great deal. Looking in a radio trade magazine, Jazz radio stations made up 1% of the US market as of 1995. Even New York City doesn't have a 24-hour Jazz station (Lou, has this situation changed?), although there is one in Newark, WBGO, which can be heard in NYC. wonder if that increased slightly due to the "Swing" revival, but probably not. As for Marsalis, there are better choices, I suppose, but there are indeed far worse (I won't defend Marsalis wholeheartedly until I see the show and could you imagine having to watch this show hosted by Kenny G(orelick)? Ish.). It reminds me of the '70s, when, if you needed Jazz on a soundtrack, you called Tom Scott or Dave Grusin. Nowadays, people knock on Marsalis' door quite a bit. Don't forget, however, at the time he came along, if you weren't playing Rock-Jazz Fusion, you weren't worth anyone's time and while he wasn't the best trumpet player in the world (by his own admission), at least he got people interested in Jazz in a historical context and for that I am quite grateful indeed. After him, there were younger players that actually played straight-ahead and realized that there was something else besides the current trends. What is saddest to me is that what still sells is the "Fusion"-type stuff, which isn't my taste and on a personal, cultural note, I notice that most African-Americans go for that which supports my theory of us generally wishing to almost always plow ahead without looking back, but then I won't go into that on this list. I don't think anyone can be considered the official viewpoint of Jazz, considering the mixture of influences and people that are or were involved but hey... ...that's Jazz! Flatted Fifth and striving towards the Talented Tenth, Brian Phillips P.S. Also, don't forget that Liberty Records wrote that Martin Denny's "Exotica" was Jazz on the back of the LP. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Hall Subject: (exotica) RE: Jazz Cowboy Ventures Date: 03 Jan 2001 12:40:44 -0500 on Tue, 2 Jan 2001 09:41:11, "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" wrote: As far as Dick Dale and the Dickheads, I think he is overrated. I saw him this summer at the Club Bene in NJ and he was pretentious as hell, and I think without any right to be. When he got on stage, and talked into the mic, instead of welcoming and thanking the crowd, he complained about the eq on the mic, he wanted his whimpy thin voice to sound more growly. I expected to hear lots of surf guitar and all that reverb, but he had the nerve to play Hendrix covers (who hated surf music BTW), and Smoke on the Water and even a Willie Nelson song! He put on a very long show, little of which was original material. It sounded like a high school garage band all over again. Give me a break. True... I remember friends seeing his comeback tour & raving about his between song banter etc, but by the time I saw him he'd apparently decided people loved hearing him talk so much that he devoted maybe 40% of the set to self-aggrandizing chit chat. This was also around the time he decided he wasn't so much the Grandfather of Surf as the Godfather of heavy metal & was travelling with an annoying 80's sounding rhythm duo (trebly-mid bass plonks & cheap roto-tom sounding drums). I found myself thinking "how sad when these old guys try to ape the Sounds of Today & miss the mark so badly" before realizing that this is the formula for some of my favorite music (Enoch Light plays Shaft, anyone?). Still a kind of thrill, albeit an annoying one, to watch the man who invented the style & still plays with the heaviest right arm this side of Django. Side note: Dick apparenty gave Hendrix a few lessons in the early 60's, & I always thought the latter's "may you never hear surf music again" line from 3rd Stone was as much tongue-in-cheek as anything. ------------------------------ on Tue, 2 Jan 2001 18:07:15, "byost" wrote: ...As expected, very hit and miss, but the Bacharach tunes are nice and the Vinny Bell sound-alike they got for Midnight Cowboy will make these keepers. Nope, that's Vinnie Bell. ------------------------------ on Tue, 02 Jan 2001 18:59:56, Carl Howard wrote: > >I NOTICED SUN RA'S ABSENCE INSTANTLY. So, even though Sphere is mentioned (and probably Cecil Taylor is NOT) (and Ayler) (and the AACM) (and Anthony Braxton), I will abstain from viewing, and I encourage other lovers of TOUGH, outside jazz to do likewise. I dunno... I can't imagine skipping some rare & potentially thrilling footage of Monk, Ellington, Armstrong, Coltrane's nominally Favorite Things et al because they stick to mainstream orthodoxy & skip the radical improv stuff. Besides, bitching & moaning about these things is half the fun. I bet David Murray's gonna watch it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: (exotica) sheet music online Date: 03 Jan 2001 12:07:31 -0600 The site's name says it all: http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/. Nothing of interest to exotica roots-diggers with searches for exotica, Arthur Lyman, and Martin Denny. On the other hand, "Mancini" spat back 101 choices. Search with composers' last names only. Sheets are graded on difficulty and the site proprietors seem to have searched the world for stuff. You might find something here that you can't find elsewhere. Happy New Year, musicians. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Later Lounge #2 CD Date: 03 Jan 2001 16:17:48 +0100 Domenic wrote: >And it's the January one. This one is going to be hard to find. yep. odly enough, the January issue is issued in the beginning of December. Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Jazz Cowboy Ventures Date: 03 Jan 2001 13:47:31 EST Actually the story I heard (and believed) was that Hendrix's infamous "You'll Never Hear Surf Music Again" line wasn't so much a dis on his former teacher but just the opposite; Dick Dale had cancer at the time and wasn't expected to survive (though fortunately he went into remission/was cured)hence the line (i.e. since Dick Dale is about to die....) Can anyone else prove/dispel this story? (I thought that Gearhead magazine - among other sources - had this story as well) While I admit Dick Dale isn't the end-all/be-all of surf, he had enough good tuneage (mainly on his vintage instrumental tracks) to at least among the Royal Court of Surf. I also had the "pleasure" of seeing Dick Dale a few years back though, and by the end of the first hour I was ready to fall asleep (you can imagine how I was by the end of the second hour). So I don't think it'd be worth laying money down for a ticket if he ever comes to your town... -DavidH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Later Lounge #2 CD Date: 03 Jan 2001 14:33:20 EST In a message dated 1/3/1 1:25:50 PM, quiet@village.uunet.be wrote: >>And it's the January one. This one is going to be hard to find. >yep. odly enough, the January issue is issued in the >beginning of December. They can't hold a candle to the old Mad Magazine...They would be releasing the May '01 issue about now # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCckert?= Subject: (exotica) Trumpets & Percussion Date: 04 Jan 2001 05:10:39 +0100 There was an item about Thai elephant music in a German cultural TV magazine recently, which was intriguing enough to have me doing a=20 websearch. So here's what I came up with. Mulatta records is currently finishing a CD of elephants in the Thai=20 jungle playing specially designed musical instruments.=20 http://www.mulatta.org/Thaielephantorch.html The project was co-created by Richard Lair of the Thai Elephant=20 Conservation Center in Lampang and performer/composer Dave Soldier.=20 http://praxis.md/post/offline/062800 http://www.newmusicbox.org/third-person/apr00/dsoldier.html What does David Soldier really do all day? He explains: "Basically=20 what I do is research into brain function. I'm particularly interested in how synapses change and how that might underlie learning behavior,=20 acquisition of memory, and establishment of memory...." =20 So what does all this have to do with his music? Evidently not too=20 much until the recent projects with the elephants and the children...=20 Soldier feels that these projects are involved with scientific=20 principles of volition and consciousness. And the line of twisted=20 logic needed to set up the recording session with the elephants sounds like a something from the depths of a laboratory: "How can you get=20 elephants to play instruments? What does that entail? Break it down=20 into small parts. What's the anatomy of an elephant? What can they do? What can they not do? And there are other things you have to worry=20 about like: Where are elephants? Where do they live? Well, they're in=20 the jungle. OK. How do you build an instrument that's going to survive in the jungle? It has to survive monsoons and 100-degree temperatures=20 for months at a time. You don't have people there to tune the=20 instruments. You can't use a violin because an elephant can't tune it. So you have to build instruments that stay in tune." I imagined that=20 the entire endeavor might sound something like Spike Jones going=20 apeshit in a zoo. But truth be told, the music sounds nothing like you think it would; it's calm, sedate, sparse; it's got a sort of Eastern- influenced jazz improv feel to it - a jingle here, a rattle there;=20 patches of it are reminiscent of the more cosmic sections of Pharaoh=20 Sanders discs from the 60s; it's almost soothing - until you remember=20 that it's a herd of elephants playing it!=20 NEW YORK TIMES - THINK TANK - December 16, 2000=20 A Band With a Lot More to Offer Than Talented Trumpeters - ERIC SCIGLIANO =20 In the 20 years since a Syracuse zookeeper first encouraged an=20 elephant's artistic impulses, pachyderm paintings have become=20 fundraising fixtures at zoos. So it was probably only a matter of=20 time before someone decided to try these highly intelligent animals out on another creative endeavor: music. Now the debut CD of the=20 Thai Elephant Orchestra is scheduled for release this month.=20 The band is the brainchild of Richard Lair, an American expatriate who=20 has worked with elephants for 23 years and written an encyclopedic=20 United Nations study of Asia's captive elephants, and David Sulzer,=20 a neurologist who heads Columbia University's Sulzer Laboratory and=20 works as a composer and producer under the name Dave Soldier.=20 Together they organized six young pachyderm at the Thai Elephant=20 Conservation Center, a former government logging camp near the town=20 of Lampang, where elephants now earn their keep by giving rides,=20 demonstrating logging skills and painting pictures for tourists.=20 Elephants are natural candidates for music-making. Their hearing is=20 much keener than their sight, and they employ a vast range of=20 vocalizations, many of which are heard on their CD, to be released=20 by the New York-based Mulatta Records.=20 Ancient Romans and Asian mahouts, or elephant handlers, have noted=20 elephants' ability to distinguish melodies, and today's circus=20 elephants follow musical cues. In 1957, a German scientist, Bernard=20 Rensch, reported in Scientific American that his test elephant could=20 distinguish 12 musical tones and could remember simple melodies even=20 when played on different instruments, at different pitches, timbres=20 and meters. She still recognized the tones a year and a half later.=20 There have been commercial ventures, too. In the 1850's a circus=20 elephant named Romeo cranked a hand organ while "Juliet" danced,=20 and the Adam Forepaugh and Barnum & Bailey circuses later fielded=20 "elephant bands." These "probably sounded like a herd of angry=20 Buicks," said Fred Dahlinger, research director for the Circus=20 World Museum in Baraboo, Wis. "They were all novelty acts,=20 characteristic of their times."=20 The Thai Elephant Orchestra attempts something different. Its=20 members play sturdier versions of traditional Thai instruments:=20 slit drums, a gong hammered from a sawmill blade, a diddly-bow bass and xylophone-like renats and a thundersheet and harmonicas.=20 Mr. Sulzer said he and Mr. Lair merely showed the elephants how to=20 make the sounds, cued them to start and stop, and let them play as=20 they wished. After five practice sessions, they started recording.=20 Mr. Sulzer admits he was skeptical at first. "I thought we would=20 just train elephants to hit something, and I would tape that and=20 have to paste it together with other things." Instead, he recorded=20 the performances intact, without overdubbing, in a teak grove,=20 pausing only when outside noises intruded.=20 The players improvise distinct meters and melodic lines, and vary=20 and repeat them. The results, at once meditative and deliberate,=20 delicate and insistently thrumming, strike some Western listeners=20 as haunting, others as monotonous. Mr. Sulzer wondered whether=20 Prathida, a 7-year- old orchestra member whom he called "the Fritz=20 Kreisler of elephants," would recognize dissonance. "I put one bad=20 note in the middle of her xylophone. She avoided playing that note=20 until one day she started playing it and wouldn't stop. Had she=20 discovered dissonance, and discovered that she liked it? She=20 outsmarted the researchers." Mr. Lair worked out a set of hand signals for the mahouts to cue=20 the elephants while he was conducting. He discovered that some=20 "figured out the meaning of the signals on their own, with no=20 teaching whatsoever." But is it music? Mr. Sulzer insists it is.=20 "I have no doubt they're improvising and composing, which is the=20 same thing," he declared. To test out the proposition, he suggested something like the Turing test of artificial=20 intelligence: play the CD without disclosing the performers'=20 identity and then ask listeners the question. For Mr. Lair, it's simply a matter of interpretation, as in all art: "Just as there are a lot things they don't understand about our music, I am sure there are things we will never understand about theirs."=20 The proceeds from the CD will go to a milk bank for orphaned=20 elephants and a school to improve mahout training although Mr.=20 Lair concedes that "profits are highly theoretical at this point." Nonetheless, Mr. Lair, who not only advises the Conservation=20 Center but also trained the elephants for the Disney movie "Dumbo=20 Drop," is sensitive to any charges of exploitation. Elephants should not be "incarcerated and made to do slave labor," he writes in the new CD's liner notes. With habitat vanishing and logging banned in=20 Thailand, however, there's little alternative to tourist-camp work.=20 At least, he says, making "gorgeous noises of their own volition"=20 is light and pleasurable duty: "What better job than to be in the=20 prison band?"=20 Mr. Lair and Mr. Sulzer are devising new instruments and seeking=20 new talent. They say one 3-year-old has already proved a prodigy,=20 and another elephant camp is trying to develop an orchestra.=20 Meanwhile, a second, "easy-listening" recording, "code-named the=20 `Schlock CD," is on the way, Mr. Lair writes, mixed to be accessible to a wider audience.=20 The Asian Elephant Art and Conservation Project. http://www.elephantart.com/history.htm Variations on a tune by Tadpole the elephant ("the Buddy Rich of=20 elephant percussionists") - Sarah Strickland, Lampang 8 November 2000=20 http://www.independenceavenue.com/News/World/Asia_China/2000-11/tadpole08110 0_low.shtml or http://www.independent.co.uk/news/World/Asia_China/2000-11/tadpole081100.sht= ml Electronic Music Keyboard for Elephants=20 3x1x1m, 9x3x3 ft. teak, computer, synthesizer and interface electronics http://users.rcn.com/ritterd/elephant.html You can download MP3 files of a couple of these pieces at the Mulatta= site...=20 http://www.mulatta.org/track1.mp3 http://www.mulatta.org/track2.mp3 ... and apparantly all 13 tracks are available at=20 http://www.bestweb.net/~mlj/thai_elephant_orch.htm Cheers, Ton *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton R=FCckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Members of our staff may be available ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ for private parties after the egg dishes. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/w34779.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Ken Burn's Jazz Date: 03 Jan 2001 22:59:02 -0800 >Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 10:06:00 -0500 >From: Brian Phillips >Subject: Re: (exotica) Ken Burns's's Jazz > >As for Marsalis, there are better choices, I suppose, but there are indeed >far worse (I won't defend Marsalis wholeheartedly until I see the show and >could you imagine having to watch this show hosted by Kenny >G(orelick)? Ish.). The objection to Marsalis isn't with his talents as a musician. It's the political spin he insists on laying on Jazz history. He sees the history of Jazz as a *racial* history, and steadfastly refuses to acknowledge the contributions of pioneering white Jazz artists. One thing I have learned from my investigation of early records is that the origins of Jazz were not as "black and white" as some people make it out to be. There were a lot of white "jass" bands, and there were a lot of white Jazz musicians... from Benny Goodman to Django Reinhardt and Woody Herman... all of whom made *significant* contributions to the development of jazz in each and every era and style it passed through in its history. Hearing Ken Burns parrot Marsalis's statements like "The history of Jazz is the story of the challenge that black people faced in America." only serves to fan flames. Jazz is the single most important artistic development of the 20th century. It belongs to everyone. It doesn't divide along racial lines as much as people on both sides of the race issue would dearly love to characterize it as splitting. Jazz isn't a story of struggle over adversity. It's a story of hundreds of very different people speaking eloquently in the same language... a language that had never been spoken before. The "messages" of jazz span the entire range of human emotion, not just "triumph over oppression". To say that, is to reduce Jazz to being "the voice of victims". It isn't that. It's the voice of everyone who had the pleasure of living through the 20th century. Louis Armstrong was the "Ambassador of Jazz" and he was a "Citizen of the World". That's the perfect symbol of what Jazz is. It doesn't matter where he was born or what color he was. He expressed joy and sadness in a way that just about everyone alive can understand. Heck, even my dog likes to listen to my Louis Armstrong CDs. That's my rant for the day. I won't be watching Jazz. Not because I don't agree with its politics. I can roll my eyes and let that roll off my back. I just can't take the incredibly slow pace of Ken Burns's filmmaking. He is the only person I know who can take a war and make it boring. I won't let him ruin Jazz for me. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Re: Germany Exotica Date: 04 Jan 2001 11:23:34 +0100 Otto schrieb: > January 12th. > The Place is BLAUER PETER IV, near Reeperbahn. > I will spin my regular styles like in the good old days of the Tiki Lou= nge. > Namely: Surf, Exotica, groovy 60s Jazz, instrumentals and related > mood=92n=92groove sounds. I plan to start at > 22.00 /10pm cet until 5 am. > > Could you send this via Your mailing list? I thought I try. > > Happy new year and all the best > Kahuna Kawentzmann That guy is great. I heard him 4 years ago. Otto, can you send me his ema= il address off-list please! Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Info: Berlin... Date: 04 Jan 2001 13:37:21 +0100 ...in aller Kuerze: Heute, am Donnerstag, den 4. Januar gibt es die zweite ROCK-A-TIKI-LOUNGE im Delicious Doughnuts. Es spielen "Lars Vegas & The Love Gloves", danach legen Bustin Bikini Beat & Cpt. Twist heisse Rock-A-Billy, Surf- und Hula-Scheiben auf. Dazu gibt es exotische Getraenke und allerlei andere Nettigkeiten. Delicious Doughnuts, Rosenthaler Strasse 9 (Mitte) ab 21 Uhr. -Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Ken Burns' Jazz Date: 04 Jan 2001 09:32:37 -0500 > >As for Marsalis, there are better choices, I suppose, but there are indeed > >far worse (I won't defend Marsalis wholeheartedly until I see the show and > >could you imagine having to watch this show hosted by Kenny > >G(orelick)? Ish.). > >The objection to Marsalis isn't with his talents as a >musician. It's the political spin he insists on laying on >Jazz history. He sees the history of Jazz as a *racial* >history, and steadfastly refuses to acknowledge the >contributions of pioneering white Jazz artists. I haven't read much of Marsalis' commentary lately, so I can't speak to that. I can tell you what my old professor Jimmy Cheatham told me, which was that The Original Dixieland Jass Band was the group to tour the world, partially due to musicians like Freddie Keppard, who didn't wish to record because he was worried people would steal his style and material. This also led many to believe that White people invented Jazz, which is as false as saying that Jazz is a solely African-American art form. The ODJB, according to Gunther Schuller also made statements saying that they hired fellows that didn't know anything about music, which could have stemmed from both humor or as a defense from critics that said that it was not music. Statements such as these must have been hurtful to other musicians of any color, however, considering the low social status of people of color, one can imagine how that rankled. The Klan has just been reborn, you can have a pocket full of money and nowhere to spend it, you are denied access to good schools and you are a purveyor of a great art form and some fellow tells folks, "we hire folks that know nothing about music". Cute. Is the history of Jazz a racial history? Not solely, but it does play into it. If the best improvisers take in all of their experiences, it has to. That also goes for the Whites that decided to play that "Race" music and the women who play with men even though it's "well-known" that girls know nothing about Jazz. I suppose there is a bit of sour grapes as to who does and doesn't get acknowledged, but I for one still wince when I hear Benny Goodman called the "King of Swing" (Great, yes, innovative, yes, even along integration lines, King, no) when there were better Big Bands, or seeing the cartoons with Jazz soundtracks that take place in the ooga-booga jungle with monkey-faced natives. I also get a bit itchy when I read the critic that said that "Rhapsody in Blue made an honest woman out of Jazz". After being given back-handed respect for such a great art form, I can at least understand where the viewpoint comes from. I do agree that it is time to more forward from it, though. As for my Kenny G comment, I don't think you meant it that way, but I like who I like without basing it in color. Many of the greats didn't either. Lester Young liked Frankie Trumabauer and Western Swing, Ruth Brown (I KNOW, not a Jazz singer...) loved to listen to Tex Beneke, Louis Armstrong played with Jack Teagarden, etc. I have an equal antipathy for George Howard and Najee, but Kenny G is more popular, so I chose him. Having lived through the 1970's where variety shows fell from the trees like leaves in autumn, I have lived through far too many shows and specials that left me thinking, "What's (s)he doing hosting this?" The other barrier is gender, too. I would have liked to have seen the International Sweethearts of Rhythm, Toshiko Akiyoshi, Marian McPartland or Mary Lou Williams (pianist, composer and arranger!) mentioned, but I doubt if that will happen, either. >One thing I have learned from my investigation of early >records is that the origins of Jazz were not as "black and >white" as some people make it out to be. There were a lot of >white "jass" bands, and there were a lot of white Jazz >musicians... from Benny Goodman to Django Reinhardt and Woody >Herman... all of whom made *significant* contributions to >the development of jazz in each and every era and style it >passed through in its history. Certainly there were a lot of White bands. They were allowed to record and also, if you were a label owner and heard the ODJB, why wouldn't you go for a White band? Also, if you were a racist, why would you want to deal with a "colored" band? They might steal something, attack with razors or date your sister (it sounds absurd now, thank Heaven, but then...)! To most labels' credit, before the days of market research and big corporate labels, record companies would record darn near ANYone, just as long as they thought it would sell. I am sure you have run across, as I have, some of the wildest records in old 78's, for example, there was a label that guaranteed, "No harp", which is to say, no harmonicas, you have our word. Talk about niche! Stylistically, I won't argue the choices, though. I would however remove Reinhardt from your list. He was a Gypsy and therefore an outsider to a great degree, so one could conceivably argue race. >Hearing Ken Burns parrot Marsalis's statements like "The >history of Jazz is the story of the challenge that black >people faced in America." only serves to fan flames. See top paragraph. I think that "The history of Jazz is IN PART the story of the challenge(s) that black people faced in America". I would like to think that the statement, with amendments leads to "fire prevention", if you will. In part, I live for that day. >Jazz is the single most important artistic development >of the 20th century. It belongs to everyone. It doesn't >divide along racial lines as much as people on both sides >of the race issue would dearly love to characterize it >as splitting. Agreed. For example, one of Ziggy Elman's solos featured a melody he heard in Temple and it fit in because he brought something to the mix that is Jazz. However, it is well to get the origins right; I'll be watching. >Jazz isn't a story of struggle over adversity. It's >a story of hundreds of very different people speaking >eloquently in the same language... a language that had >never been spoken before. The "messages" of jazz span the >entire range of human emotion, not just "triumph over >oppression". To say that, is to reduce Jazz to being "the >voice of victims". It isn't that. It's the voice of >everyone who had the pleasure of living through the 20th >century. Agreed...mostly. "Pleasure of living through the 20th century?" I have had it soft and I can tell of racial incidents that would be worth at least a FEW songs :^). Maybe I will wait until Ken Burns takes on the Blues. I would rather use the phrase "experience of living...". Jazz isn't solely a story of struggle over adversity and it would be stifling to go from that viewpoint solely, which is what I think what you meant. Also, if the State Department sends you on a tour and you aren't Charles Drew, George Washington Carver or Elijah McCoy (if you say "The Real McCoy" you are using a phrase that meant that you wanted one of this great inventor's products not a fake), but you are Louis Armstrong and they pick you, a musician, not a Doctor or Scientist or Inventor, isn't that a story of a struggle over adversity? An illegitimate child born in poverty and racial hatred that manages to end up defining the trumpet in Jazz? >Louis Armstrong was the "Ambassador of Jazz" and he was a >"Citizen of the World". That's the perfect symbol of >what Jazz is. It doesn't matter where he was born or >what color he was. He expressed joy and sadness in a >way that just about everyone alive can understand. Heck, >even my dog likes to listen to my Louis Armstrong CDs. ...and well both of you should! Agreed, I don't recommend that everyone that plays must deal with prejudice, be poor and starve to be great. As Harlan Ellison said, "The people that think that writers have to suffer for their art are usually publishers". >That's my rant for the day. I won't be watching Jazz. >Not because I don't agree with its politics. I can roll >my eyes and let that roll off my back. I just can't take >the incredibly slow pace of Ken Burns's filmmaking. He >is the only person I know who can take a war and make >it boring. I won't let him ruin Jazz for me. ...and well you shouldn't! It will take more than one program (which we all haven't SEEN yet!) to fell Jazz. If you don't like Burns, then you don't and that is fine. If it turns out to be that much of a misfire, with the "status" that Burns brings to it that will be sad indeed. From what I can glean, he seems to have bitten off more than he can chew, but perhaps being a closet hippie, I can also see that this project is in itself a triumph, because it got made at all. Which TV program on a broadcast network do you tune into to see and hear great Jazz every week? When has that ever existed? To look beyond Jazz, I am ticked at the USA because this and other art forms just get flat out neglected. A friend of mine lived in Italy for 17 years and she said that their familiarity with Opera was likened to how we relate to soap operas on TV (or daytime dramas, if you wish to get PC about it, or Mac or Unix about...AIEEEEE!). Everyone knows the plots and has their favorite singers. In Russia, you could fill stadiums with Pushkin poetry readings. We have an embarrassment of riches in this country, yet we still are letting much of it slip through our fingers and that is sad. I believe that animation is enjoying (help me here, Steve) a better time artistically, but not before the dog days of the '60s and 70's when TV didn't wish to spend too much money on them and the movie studios closed their animation divisions, thereby losing people of the caliber of Vlad Tytla. I am not so desperate that I feel if Britney Spears says the word Jazz in an interview that I break out the good desserts and have a party, nor do I believe that we are in such dire straits that someone would remake the Jazz Singer with Neil Dia...HEY! What am I saying? I am saying, in a post that EASILY is as long as anything Burns ever made is that I will be watching Jazz, because I dig vintage footage, I am glad someone is taking notice, I still like Marsalis, but am old and smart enough to know that one person isn't the spokesperson for Jazz (he is a Consultant with a lot of airtime, so says the Atlantic Monthly article), I have great respect for those who can play it from a fellow who tried and couldn't and I am not mad at anyone, because Steve makes some valid points. "Not fussin', just talking", as my Cousin Sarah used to say. Does anyone on the list know of a show that generated so much talk on the list BEFORE it aired? General Sherman knocks a Texas Leaguer out of Antietam with a Selmer Baritone Sax (which means that Burns woke up awful confused), Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Raymond Scott Date: 04 Jan 2001 08:37:00 -0600 I can't recall if this has been mentioned before, but there's a GREAT article about Raymond Scott in the December issue of Electronic Musician, written by Jeff Winner and Irwin Chusid. It's got lots of photos (Scott in his studio, the Clavivox, Electronium, the Wall of Sound, etc.), plus interviews with Bob Moog and other Scott colleagues and mentions of most of the CD reissues, including "Manhattan Research, Inc". Great stuff! Apparently the article's also online at: http://www.emusician.com/ but the website seems bogged down by slow-loading ad banners or something, 'cause it's slowwwww. Thanks for the space. Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Enoch light - vinyl reissues Date: 04 Jan 2001 15:29:50 -0000 I've picked up copies of Permissive Polyphonics and Brass Menagerie 73 'new issues'. Overall I'm impressed with the quality, the sleeves are not gatefolds (I don't know what they would have been like originally). There are inserts with the sort of notes that you'd get on the inside of the Command gatefolds. Bizarrely the insides of the sleeves seem to be printed. The quality of the vinyl is pretty good, too. clean, no obvious pops, the brass menagerie one in particular has a really good sound. Certainly nothing like the murky mess that was the vinyl version of Dick Hymans 'Moog' LP a couple of years ago. As for what's on the records, I got Permissive Polyphonics first, and I was disappointed, I don't think its anywhere near as good as 'Spaced Out', perhaps I was over anticipating after Robbies comments just before Christmas, or maybe it has something to do with only paying 20p for Spaced Out rather than 13 UKPounds. I don't know. There are a couple of things I really like, but It doesn't surprise me and appeal in the way that Spaced Out does every time I play it. I got Brass Menagerie 73 yesterday, I've only had one chance to play it, but this seems much more like it. Maybe I'm bouncing back, having approached it with lower expectations. It has a tendency to go off into Jazz soloing at times, which I don't really appreciate, but it sounds great (theres some great electric bass on it, really good sound, playing a nice groovy bass line, just how I like it), and some wonderful arrangements. Robbie was right about the Dick Hyman track being out of place, the last track is a multitracked Moog only piece. On a Brass Menagerie LP? I think that leaves me looking for 'Discotheque' now and not much more from Enoch Light really. I'm going to make up a tape of the grooviest tracks to lay in the Capri while driving about in the summer. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ Spunky Misunderstood Genius # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jschwart@voicenet.com Subject: (exotica) Ken Burns Date: 04 Jan 2001 10:52:33 >I NOTICED SUN RA'S ABSENCE INSTANTLY. As pointed out by others, no documentary could possibly include everything. I'll just add that Sun Ra's stature as the Only Jazz Musician Acknowledged By The Indie Rock Generation is a very recent development, and perhaps outside the scope of such a production. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "The Workmans" Subject: (exotica) DickieDale Date: 04 Jan 2001 12:50:49 -0500 The Hendrix story rings true to me, too. Tongue in cheek, at the worst. I don't feel that I would probably see Mr.Dale if he came to town, but for the cost of a ticket I am getting a lot of enjoyment out of the three comeback CDs (I guess I "bought" at least 3 tickets then huh!!) Seriously, I do think he is quite pretentious and definitely stuck on himself. I guess if I could play a guitar upside down and strung backward, bass strings toward floor, I might think I was pretty cool too. Oh Well. The air guitar continues to be impressive...J Workman theworkmans@mics.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Millionaire Subject: (exotica) Jazzz Date: 04 Jan 2001 11:38:02 -0800 Oddly, for the occasionally culturally confused place that it is, Los Angeles has a fine all-jazz radios staion:KLON. I think this is the first station of it's kind I've ever experienced. I'm NOT counting SMOOVE "jazz"...that's a form of music whose appeal continues to elude me, to put it in an overly polite manner. Are there other dedicated Jazz radios stations elsewhere to anyones knowledge? I'm curious. Cioa, The Millionaire LuxuriaMusic 1424 Lincoln Blvd. Santa Monica, CA 90401 phone:(310) 319-3833 fax:(240) 376-7734 www.luxuriamusic.com "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." -Hunter S. Thompson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazzz Date: 04 Jan 2001 15:11:03 -0500 >Are there other dedicated Jazz radios stations elsewhere to anyones >knowledge? I'm curious. KLON is a great station (I worked there for a short time) and here in Atlanta, we have WCLK, which mixes up the straight-ahead and the fusion. It broadcasts out of Clark University. They brought Sonny Rollins to town, for which I am extremely grateful, one of the best concerts I have ever seen. WBGO in Newark is nothing short of amazing. When I was there last, they were running a show in which the DJ ran an aural comparison of a saxophonist's solos in three performances of the same song. I was captivated. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Enoch light - vinyl reissues Date: 04 Jan 2001 15:25:33 -0500 At 03:29 PM 1/4/01 -0000, G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk wrote: > >As for what's on the records, I got Permissive Polyphonics first, and I was >disappointed, I don't think its anywhere near as good as 'Spaced Out', There are a couple of things I >really like, but It doesn't surprise me and appeal in the way that Spaced >Out does every time I play it. Are you saying that Spaced Out is the best one? That Spaced Out is the one to have? Figures. I have Permissive. I'm getting Brass Menagerie 73 in the mail from ebay so I don't know if it's an original or a reissue. I have three Discotheque volumes. And I have the Corporation, which you didn't mention. But Spaced Out is one of those records, like everything by the Free Design, which keeps going for over 20 bucks on ebay everytime it shows up and I'm afraid I'll never get one. So where did you get this reissue and how much was it? I want to stop buying records as soon as possible. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Millionaire Subject: (exotica) Carol Kaye Date: 04 Jan 2001 12:42:02 -0800 Oh yeah...forgot my regular bit of shameless promo!! Carol Kaye, the protean bass player and cornerstone of the gang of Los Angeles seesion musicians known as "The Wrecking Crew" will be a guest on LuxuriaMusic this Friday, Jan.5, at 6 PM (pacific standard time). Ms.Kaye has played on, among other things,the "Mission:Impossible" soundtrack,"Pet Sounds",David Axelrod's "Songs of Innocence",Herb Alpert's "Whipped Cream and Other Delights", Frank Sinatra's "The World We Knew", the "Batman" theme and many many many more!!! Dig it! I now return you to your regularly scheduled Exotica List. The Millionaire LuxuriaMusic 1424 Lincoln Blvd. Santa Monica, CA 90401 phone:(310) 319-3833 fax:(240) 376-7734 www.luxuriamusic.com "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." -Hunter S. Thompson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Enoch light - vinyl reissues Date: 04 Jan 2001 16:10:01 EST In a message dated 1/4/1 3:25:03 PM, azed@pathcom.com wrote: >Are you saying that Spaced Out is the best one? That Spaced Out is the one >to have? Figures. >I have Permissive. I'm getting Brass Menagerie 73 I found "Glittering Guitars" up in Vermont this fall. It has Vinnie Bell on two tracks underwatering his way around the song and some sitar tracks...Also Enoch's take on the shrill sound of the rock guitar solo circa '68...Track for track its right up there. In the Top Five anyway. I think. JB/tryin' to end the post like "Nat" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Dean Subject: Re: (exotica) Enoch light - vinyl reissues Date: 04 Jan 2001 15:20:45 -0600 I love the Glittering Guitars album too. The opening measures are pure Tipsy (The first for bars are in one of their trademark composition, but I forget which one) . The second track, You Showed Me is fantastic, I think. And the rest of the record is contantly entertaining and delightful! paul, having recently finished reading Elevator Music, his life changed forever . . . DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/4/1 3:25:03 PM, azed@pathcom.com wrote: > > >Are you saying that Spaced Out is the best one? That Spaced Out is the one > >to have? Figures. > >I have Permissive. I'm getting Brass Menagerie 73 > > I found "Glittering Guitars" up in Vermont this fall. It has Vinnie Bell on > two tracks underwatering his way around the song and some sitar tracks...Also > Enoch's take on the shrill sound of the rock guitar solo circa '68...Track > for track its right up there. In the Top Five anyway. I think. JB/tryin' to > end the post like "Nat" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazzz Date: 04 Jan 2001 23:10:31 +0100 The Millionaire schrieb: > Are there other dedicated Jazz radios stations elsewhere to anyones > knowledge? I'm curious. Here in Munich we have Jazzwelle Plus, but it has seen better days. Today it's more like "Relax FM". But there is one TV channel that is broadcasting recordings of live jazz concerts almost every night. It's pretty dedicated, although I'd probably make a different selection, if I was the guy in charge. Still... Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: Re: (exotica) Enoch light - vinyl reissues Date: 04 Jan 2001 22:58:04 -0000 El Maestro wrote: > I've picked up copies of Permissive Polyphonics and Brass Menagerie 73 > 'new issues'. Overall I'm impressed with the quality, the sleeves are > not gatefolds (I don't know what they would have been like > originally). I'm glad to hear they're good quality "reissues". The covers were both originally gatefolds by the way. > As for what's on the records, I got Permissive Polyphonics first, and > I was disappointed, I don't think its anywhere near as good as > 'Spaced Out', perhaps I was over anticipating after Robbies comments > just before Christmas, or maybe it has something to do with only > paying 20p for Spaced Out rather than 13 UKPounds. I'm sad you may have wasted cash on this record. I just prefer the much more dominant Moog on Permissive (as well as the utterly bizarre arrangements!). Spaced Out is of course a great album too but in my opinion not in the same league as Permissive. > I got Brass Menagerie 73 yesterday, I've only had one chance to play > it, but this seems much more like it. Maybe I'm bouncing back, > having approached it with lower expectations. It has a tendency to go > off into Jazz soloing at times, which I don't really appreciate, but > it sounds great (theres some great electric bass on it, really good > sound, playing a nice groovy bass line, just how I like it), and > some wonderful arrangements. Yes, I love the drumming and bass playing on all the Project 3 records I've heard. > Robbie was right about the Dick Hyman > track being out of place, the last track is a multitracked Moog only > piece. On a Brass Menagerie LP? Indeed! > I think that leaves me looking for 'Discotheque' now and not much more > from Enoch Light really. Yes, all the Discotheque LPs (3 on Command, 1 on Project 3) are well worth seeking out. Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazzz Date: 04 Jan 2001 16:16:59 -0800 (PST) millionaire@luxuriamusic.com wrote: > Are there other dedicated Jazz radios stations elsewhere to > anyones > knowledge? I'm curious. > My fave in the western suburbs of Boston is WICN out of Worcester MA. www.wicn.org Jazz all day and late night and folk/blues/ american roots in the evenings. The program I think would be of interest to list members would be "Joes Place" Saturday's 12-4PM where Joe focuses on that late 50's early 60's era. Domenic Ciccone "Martinis with Mancini" WJUL 91.5FM Friday’s 6-9AM EST http://www.geocities.com/martinimancini/ http://wjul.cs.uml.edu/listen.html(On Real Audio) -->Host Your Site For Just $9.95 @ http://www.buzzlink.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Risser Family" Subject: (exotica) Yo Vivire Date: 04 Jan 2001 20:01:14 -0500 Okay, I was in Orlando, on the way to Disneyworld and heard a rockin' Cubano version of I Will Survive in Spanish. Who did it? Anyone? I'm sure it's modern, but I have no idea where to look or who to ask. Is anyone on this list into modern Hispanic music, and might know what I'm talking about? Please help! Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Ford" Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazzz Date: 04 Jan 2001 19:48:26 -0600 Minneapolis has a jazz radio station, KBEM, and it actually plays real jazz -- I just heard a nice Willie the Lion Smith special feature, for ex. But it is so strapped for cash it has to share its programming time with the Minnesota Department of Transportation. (Hence its peculiar slogan, "real jazz, real traffic".) They also have some deal worked out with Minneapolis public schools, so when you're not hearing traffic reports, you're hearing high school student announcers locked in an unequal struggle with the pronunciation of the musicians' names. Also, Leigh Kamman does a great show on Minnesota Public Radio called The Jazz Image. (One of the only good MPR music shows, and it's on their news service.) Does anybody hear it outside the Twin Cities? Phil Ford > >Oddly, for the occasionally culturally confused place that it is, Los >Angeles has a fine all-jazz radios staion:KLON. > >I think this is the first station of it's kind I've ever experienced. I'm >NOT counting SMOOVE "jazz"...that's a form of music whose appeal continues >to elude me, to put it in an overly polite manner. > >Are there other dedicated Jazz radios stations elsewhere to anyones >knowledge? I'm curious. > >Cioa, > >The Millionaire # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazzz Date: 04 Jan 2001 18:48:46 -0800 At 11:38 AM 04-01-01 -0800, The Millionaire wrote: >Are there other dedicated Jazz radios stations elsewhere to anyones >knowledge? I'm curious. KMHD-FM in Gresham, OR (Portland Metro area) is all jazz, run by a community college and quite good. I haven't heard anything from them that wouldn't be considered jazz. Byron ___...---''''^^^^^""""""^^^^^''''---...___ "You've got to stand for something or ||| you'll fall for anything." ||| ||| ---John Mellencamp ||| ||| ||| ||| bag@hubris.net Portland, OR, USA ||| """^^^'''----.....______.....----'''^^^""" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Carol Kaye Date: 04 Jan 2001 18:57:10 -0800 At 12:42 PM 04-01-01 -0800, the Millionaire wrote: >Carol Kaye, the protean bass player and cornerstone of the gang of Los >Angeles seesion musicians known as "The Wrecking Crew" will be a guest on >LuxuriaMusic this Friday, Jan.5, at 6 PM (pacific standard time). I just ran across an interview with her on the web where she talks about folks such as Frankie Capp (the guy I was doing a search on). She sounds like an interesting and probably extraordinary musician and I hope to tune in! Byron ___...---''''^^^^^""""""^^^^^''''---...___ "You've got to stand for something or ||| you'll fall for anything." ||| ||| ---John Mellencamp ||| ||| ||| ||| bag@hubris.net Portland, OR, USA ||| """^^^'''----.....______.....----'''^^^""" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Jazzz Date: 04 Jan 2001 23:29:06 EST In a message dated 1/4/1 9:46:00 PM, bag@hubris.net wrote: >I haven't heard anything from them that wouldn't be considered jazz. by whom? (pardon the asshole english!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Carol Kaye Date: 04 Jan 2001 23:36:53 EST In a message dated 1/4/1 9:54:42 PM, bag@hubris.net wrote: >Carol Kaye, the protean bass player and cornerstone of the gang of Los >>Angeles seesion musicians known as "The Wrecking Crew" will be a guest on >>LuxuriaMusic this Friday, Jan.5, at 6 PM (pacific standard time). > > She sounds like an interesting and probably extraordinary musician and I hope to tune in! All of that she indeed is. And she deserves respect for her labors. But let's not let God-Like Status be applied to (ANYONE, PLEASE!). A fellow exotica list member, also a soft pop list member has been censlred for non-PC e-mails.....NO BODY IS GOD IN THIS REALM. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Carol Kaye Date: 05 Jan 2001 00:41:16 EST Carol famously started as a jazz guitarist and started getting session gigs because she was one of the first people to pick up the Fender electric bass. She and Joe Osborne are the definitive LA session bass players. It would be interesting to compare her style to Joe's, hear about forming a rhythm section with Hal Blaine, and of course, get the scoop on all those amazing sessions she played on. Would also be interesting to hear about the West Coast Jazz scene that she played in simultaneously (as a guitarist). --David In a message dated 1/4/01 6:54:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, bag@hubris.net writes: << At 12:42 PM 04-01-01 -0800, the Millionaire wrote: >Carol Kaye, the protean bass player and cornerstone of the gang of Los >Angeles seesion musicians known as "The Wrecking Crew" will be a guest on >LuxuriaMusic this Friday, Jan.5, at 6 PM (pacific standard time). I just ran across an interview with her on the web where she talks about folks such as Frankie Capp (the guy I was doing a search on). She sounds like an interesting and probably extraordinary musician and I hope to tune in! Byron >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Carol Kaye Date: 04 Jan 2001 21:53:42 -0800 At 11:36 PM 04-01-01 EST, you wrote: >In a message dated 1/4/1 9:54:42 PM, bag@hubris.net wrote: >>Carol Kaye, >>She sounds like an interesting and probably extraordinary musician and I >>hope to tune in! >All of that she indeed is. And she deserves respect for her labors. But let's >not let God-Like Status be applied to (ANYONE, PLEASE!). A fellow exotica >list member, also a soft pop list member has been censlred for non-PC >e-mails.....NO BODY IS GOD IN THIS REALM. That's for sure. Even the entity some people call God is most probably not God, but who's to say? I never considered extraordinary to be God-Like. Perfect, infallible, the best there ever was and ever will be...those words and phrases mean God-Like to me. Extraordinary means that she is more than the ordinary musician...and believe me, the world is full of ordinary musicians. For God-Like I would say that Super-Doubleplus-Ultraordinary might be closer, but not simply Extraordinary. :) Perhaps I should have said out of the ordinary, but that could just have well meant less than the ordinary which would be the wrong meaning I meant to convey. Byron ___...---''''^^^^^""""""^^^^^''''---...___ "You've got to stand for something or ||| you'll fall for anything." ||| ||| ---John Mellencamp ||| ||| ||| ||| bag@hubris.net Portland, OR, USA ||| """^^^'''----.....______.....----'''^^^""" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TempoBlock@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Raymond Scott Date: 05 Jan 2001 00:58:00 EST Darrell Brogdon wrote: > ... > there's a GREAT article about Raymond Scott in the > December issue of Electronic Musician, written by > Jeff Winner and ... Apparently the article's also online ... > but the website seems bogged down by slow-loading > ad banners or something, 'cause it's slowwwww. I don't think it's online yet, but RaymondScott.com will probably make it available soon... THANKS! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: Re: (exotica) Enoch light - vinyl reissues Date: 05 Jan 2001 10:45:20 -0000 I'd say Spaced out is the best one, Beatles, Bach and Bacharach. Great swinging arrangements, great production, very tight, no honking or wailing solo's (no shouts from my girlfriend of 'Are you playing that bleedin' jazz again?'). All Great No Filler, is the description I think. My copy is a scratched studio2 release (UK) I got from a charity shop for 20p. Which is even cheap for a charity shop. And it plays well, which is what counts. As I say, this penny pinching streak in me may be why I love it the most, but I like to think its on its merits. What is the corporation LP you mention? El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ Spunky Misunderstood Genius Alan said: Are you saying that Spaced Out is the best one? That Spaced Out is the one to have? Figures. I have Permissive. I'm getting Brass Menagerie 73 in the mail from ebay so I don't know if it's an original or a reissue. I have three Discotheque volumes. And I have the Corporation, which you didn't mention. But Spaced Out is one of those records, like everything by the Free Design, which keeps going for over 20 bucks on ebay everytime it shows up and I'm afraid I'll never get one. So where did you get this reissue and how much was it? I want to stop buying records as soon as possible. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Indian Vibes Date: 05 Jan 2001 11:48:13 +0100 So, 07. Jan. , 20 - 1 h @UNITY, Hanauer Landstra=DFe 2, Frankfurt SLOWCLUB mit Kurian und Petra Klaus Chillout, Indian Remixes, Nu Asian Trance Kein Eintritt -Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: Subject: (exotica) Yo Vivire Date: 05 Jan 2001 10:51:40 -0000 I was sent a copy of this from a friend in Barcelona and its by: Gloria Gaynor. I don't know who the backing musicians are, but the release has: 'I will survive (remix)' ie yet another slightly different version, one of my friends claims to be into double figures 'I will survive (en espanol)' which is also listed as 'Yo Vivre' and on the CD itself its misspelt and some euro- techno track. It is a great version heavy on the Gipsy Kings guitars. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ Spunky Misunderstood Genius I was in Orlando, on the way to Disneyworld and heard a rockin' Cubano version of I Will Survive in Spanish. Who did it? Anyone? I'm sure it's modern, but I have no idea where to look or who to ask. Is anyone on this list into modern Hispanic music, and might know what I'm talking about? Please help! Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Jazz Date: 05 Jan 2001 10:57:04 -0000 We have Jazz FM here in the UK which I must admit I never listen too. The Irish version sounds much more interesting from an email that Rob sent me in response to the Enoch Light posting. I hope he won't mind me forwarding it. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ Spunky Misunderstood Genius > ---------- > From: Robert McKenna[SMTP:rmckenna@hotmail.com] > > I have 'Discotheque', i think, and rarely listen to it (though i like the > version of 'Taste of Honey' which is used for a jingle on Jazz FM here [i > used to love being home at lunch to hear a Spanish hip hop show, or latin > music presented in Portuguese and Irish, or African music and Afrocentric > philosophy, or an R'n'B show with big shouts to the Rathmines posse and > the > Northside massive. Some things i love about the place changing)) must > listen > to it if I get home. > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Raymond Scott Date: 05 Jan 2001 08:33:35 -0500 > I don't think it's online yet, but RaymondScott.com will probably make >it available soon... It was online as of 1/4/00. I have a fast connection at work and got a chance to read some of it. It's great stuff! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lenkei, Bruce" Subject: RE: (exotica) Carol Kaye Date: 05 Jan 2001 10:07:01 -0500 Carole Kaye also has a great, great web site, loaded with some great pictures and lots of other info about her exploits. It's a lot of fun http://www.carolkaye.com/ and dig that opening shot of the 1974 version of Carol. Groovy! - Bruce # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lenkei, Bruce" Subject: RE: (exotica) Jazzz Date: 05 Jan 2001 10:54:53 -0500 Here in NYC there is a great station, WKCR, that plays a whole lot of jazz. They tend to focus on the swing and be-bop old masters, but there is still a good amount of Ornette Coleman, Thelonious Monk, and some of the more free, experimental stuff. Phil Schaap, the guy in charge of the jazz programming, and the main DJ, seems to know everything about every jazz musician who ever lived, and he sometimes goes on and on, talking too much, but it's worth it, usually. It's the Columbia Univ. station, so there is a lot of other great music music too. Country, blues, etc. http://www.columbia.edu/cu/wkcr/indexb.html Accross the river in Newark there's another all jazz station, WBGO. But it's usually a little too soft and smooth and has too many singers for my taste. http://www.wbgo.org/ - bruce # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: Fwd: (exotica) Ken Burns's's Jazz Date: 05 Jan 2001 09:04:45 -0800 (PST) > If you want to call vocalists like (Canada's own) Diane Krall or > (Canada's > own and my former aerobics class pal) Holly Cole "jazz", I won't > argue too > vehemently. But when you do a list of "jazz" records and it's > almost ALL > vocalists, I get annoyed. > > With jazz you always have to be happy with small favours. What is Holly Cole's lastest, Romantically Helpless, like? Similar to her earlier stuff? The one before that, Dark Dear Heart, scared me away. And I heard it is fashionable in Canada to hate her. True? Dig the vocals. -->Host Your Site For Just $9.95 @ http://www.buzzlink.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ken Burns's's Jazz Date: 05 Jan 2001 13:47:25 -0500 >(I'm assuming they won't exactly be focusing on the denser aspects of >Miles Davis's fusion years either....) Considering that Wynton Marsalis has characterized "Bitch's Brew" as a pop/rock sellout, I somehow doubt it. I think of Marsalis as "the jazz taxidermist," but that's awfully harsh and I feel bad about it (then again, last night I pulled out Miles Davis' autobiography and re-read his comments on Marsalis and somehow didn't feel so bad afterwards). I respect his abilities and commitment, and share his love for the earlier music, but I resent the way he's become the *official* jazzman of our era and pushed things toward a classical-scene model of "these guys did it right, so let's just do it that way forever." Henry Threadgill (for one) was delving back into early jazz styles in the early 80s, with much more fresh and interesting results than Marsalis has ever come up with. But I agree with Brian that there could be much worse people advising Burns ("John Tesh presents The Wonderful World Of Jazz"). And if it is "merely" a solid grounding in straightahead jazz, well, it's not like that's such a bad thing. Considering all the dreck that's out there. Heh heh -- I mean, what do you think this is, the 70s or something? (when you could see the likes of Harry Partch on PBS) m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazzz Date: 05 Jan 2001 14:03:56 -0500 >Are there other dedicated Jazz radios stations elsewhere to anyones >knowledge? I'm curious. Out of Temple University in Philly, there's WRTI (90.1fm). They also have repeater stations covering eastern to central PA and down into NJ and Delaware. And a web-feed at their site: http://www.wrti.org/ They were ALL jazz for many years, but in '97 there was a shady takeover of the daytime hours when a commercial classical station changed format. So now it's classical in the daytime, jazz at night. It was pretty controversial. There's a little mention of it in this John Swana interview: http://www.allaboutjazz.com/IVIEWS/jswana.HTM Set your find function to "WRTI" to find the paragraph (second mention). Looks like an interesting interview in general. Having memories of 'RTI in the mid-70s, when there were a lot of free artists on the playlist and a solid black power attitude, it's awfully disconcerting to hear these plummy-voiced classical announcers, who seem to tape most of the promos. The jazz playlist is pretty mainstream now, but good stuff. My favorite show is Harrison Ridley's "Historical Approach to the Positive Music", Sunday nights at 8. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Raymond Scott Date: 05 Jan 2001 14:10:49 -0500 >>I don't think it's online yet, but RaymondScott.com will probably make >>it available soon... > >It was online as of 1/4/00. I have a fast connection at work and got a >chance to read some of it. It's great stuff! It is here: http://industryclick.com/magazinearticle.asp?magazineid=33&releaseid=4240&magazinearticleid=18245&siteid=15 If you turn off your images and javascript, you can cut out the pushing from their ad servers. The article doesn't include any images anyway. Good article indeed! m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: RE: (exotica) Jazzz Date: 05 Jan 2001 11:21:43 -0800 (PST) WPFW is DC's local "listener supported radio", programming focuses on "jazz, Third World music, news and public affairs". They also play blues on weekday afternoons. I believe they broadcast out of Howard University. http://www.wpfw.org/wpfw.cfm ===== "But I revolted; esteeming it apt and proper rabidly to inveigh against these heterodoxies...". - Fr. Rolfe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Dean Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazzz Date: 05 Jan 2001 14:31:09 -0600 WWOZ is the "jazz and heritage" station in New Orleans. I really enjoy the station. But I live out of earshot and only catch when I'm whizzing through town. For me it is definitely a big chunk o' the flavor of New Orleans. http://www.wwoz.org/ paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: Fwd: (exotica) Ken Burns's's Jazz Date: 05 Jan 2001 17:09:09 -0500 At 09:04 AM 1/5/01 -0800, Domenic Ciccone wrote: > >What is Holly Cole's lastest, Romantically Helpless, like? Similar to her earlier stuff? The one before that, Dark Dear Heart, scared me away. And I heard it is fashionable in Canada to hate her. True? > >Dig the vocals. Isn't it fashionable everywhere to hate local success stories? We love them until they succeed somewhere else. To be fair, I think it has to do with overexposure. We just see way way too much of them. Having said that, most of the local success stories like Barenaked Ladies, Loreena McKennit, Holly Cole etc. have huge fan bases here still. As far as what her record is like, I have no idea but I am glad she stopped using the bass and piano exclusively. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Ken Burns's's Jazz Date: 05 Jan 2001 18:44:14 -0500 At 01:47 PM 1/5/01 -0500, m.ace wrote: > >>(I'm assuming they won't exactly be focusing on the denser aspects of >>Miles Davis's fusion years either....) > >Considering that Wynton Marsalis has characterized "Bitch's Brew" as a >pop/rock sellout, I somehow doubt it. > >But I agree with Brian that there could be much worse people advising Burns . And if it is "merely" a >solid grounding in straightahead jazz, well, it's not like that's such a >bad thing. Considering all the dreck that's out there. I disagree. I don't think there could have been a worse person advising Burns. I think almost ANYONE could have done a better job than Wynton. Or at least a fairer job. Unless they were one of Wynton's minions in which case they would have done the same job. The local critics have now weighed in with their comments about the show and yes there is a huge list of people who are utterly ignored. But that's not the worst part. The worst part is that ONE episode - of nine? - covers the last forty years. That right there gives you a pretty good idea about what is going to be ignored. (Apparently Mingus is included but he gets exactly two minutes. Forget about fusion. Organ jazz is also ignored. No organ, no avant garde.) The most interesting thing I read was about Burns himself. I had just assumed that Burns was doing this out of a passion he had as a jazz fan. I assumed that he was a lifelong jazz enthusiast and this was his chance to share the music he loved. Apparently that couldn't be further from the truth. He had a couple of jazz records and didn't really know much about it. I don't know how he ended up doing it but it's not surprising that he just slavishly followed the advice of his advisors. He had no personal knowledge or passion that could prevent that from happening. He had no point of view. So he took on the point of view of his main advisor. It's not Ken Burn's Jazz. It's Wynton's. All Ken did was organize the material. I think I would have done a better job. I think the clerk in the jazz section at Sam's downtown would have done a better job. And I also think John Tesh or Kenny G would have done a better job. I think Brian Philips would have done a better job. We all would've done a better job because I think all those I mentioned would have told Ken "Listen I don't really like this stuff over there but you shouldn't tell this story without mentioning it". John Tesh might not listen to much Albert Ayler but he seems like a fair guy and he probably would have broached the issue of avant garde jazz. Wynton Marsalis doesn't just have his own taste. He has a version of the truth that it's in his interest to promote. He doesn't just say "Oh there's that stuff over there but I don't like that very much myself". He ignores it. He rewrites history. It's propaganda. And that's why he was the WORST possible choice. But I still don't know why the guy who got to tell the story was a guy who had no interest or passion for the subject. Figures. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Hermento Paschoal Date: 05 Jan 2001 18:53:00 EST While we're on the subject of jazz, I was wondering if anyone had any info on a Brazilian musician named Hermento Paschoal. I recently did a clearance-find of an import CD reissue (on Verve) of his 1973 album "A Musica Livre de..." ("The Free Music of...") and found it to be pretty interesting. (kinda like Brazilian music taking on some elements of free-jazz). Did he release any more albums and, if so, are they up to (or beyond) the standards of this one? -DavidH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Risser Family" Subject: Re: (exotica) Yo Vivire Date: 05 Jan 2001 20:24:00 -0500 I solved my own problem. It's by Celia Cruz. While this looks like some chick, it seems to actually be a rave-up Cubano band. It's a great booty-shakin' version. Look it up! Peter > I was in Orlando, on the way to Disneyworld and heard a rockin' Cubano > version of I Will Survive in Spanish. Who did it? Anyone? I'm sure it's > modern, but I have no idea where to look or who to ask. Is anyone on this > list into modern Hispanic music, and might know what I'm talking about? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: (exotica) FIRST HAND comment about Ken Burns Jazz Date: 05 Jan 2001 20:55:05 -0500 Hi, all, I'm sending this out widely, as many of my friends and correspondents love music and are (or might be) interested in some way, negative or positive, in the Ken Burns documentary "Jazz" airing on PBS beginning Monday, January 8th. The author, Matt Glaser, is a friend of mine, a great fiddle player, and one of the consultants and talking heads in the documentary "Ken Burns Jazz." (Don't ask me where the apostrophe is, i've seen it as "Ken Burns: Jazz" too...) Please respond to me and/or Matt. Take care, citizen kafka --------------------------- Hello, my name is Matt Glaser. Since I've been getting eviscerated regarding my appearance in the Ken Burns' Jazz documentary, I thought I'd take this opportunity to introduce myself and comment on my participation in the film. I'm Chairman of the String Department at the Berklee College of Music in Boston, a position I've held for 20 years. I co-authored the book "Jazz Violin" with the late Stephane Grappelli. If you want my whole bio you can check out this website: http://www.pbs.org/jazz/biography/artist_id_glaser_matt.htm But mostly I love music and enjoy turning people on to the music I love. Don't we all feel that way? I tried to get Ken to list me as "metaphysical crackpot." I usually preface any remarks I make about music and physics by saying they're completely fact-free. I like to say these provocative things to get people to think more deeply about the time element in jazz, which I think is incredibly deep and actually very mysterious. If you want to read what I have to say about these topics, check out the following websites: http://www.berklee.edu/bt/121/coda.html http://berklee.edu/html/ab_mglaser.html Some reviewers got what I was trying to do, especially in the two Louis solos that I talk about on camera. Jon Garelick, writing in the Boston Phoenix, said, "...and then, with the music unbroken, we cut to the young jazz-violinist Matt Glaser, bearded, grining, listening to the very same Armstrong vocal we are, and he begins to parse Louis's phrasing for us (the "abstraction" of the popular melody to a single note of driving swing, a bar or two of "no time," a stunning resolution), catching the trumpeter's almost indecipherable spoken aside and translating for us, not in a pedantic way, but joyful, as if he were sharing a gift. And he is." Bob Blumenthal, writing in Jazz Times, said, "If someone were to ask me to tell them the story of jazz, my response would be, 'Sit down, and let me play you some recordings.' That can be done in a film--and it is done brilliantly in my favorite segment of those I saw, as violinist Matt Glaser talked viewers through Louis Armstrong's 'Up a Lazy River'..." I'm disturbed by the level of vitriol that is rampant in the jazz community. It really has the feeling of people standing around in a circle shooting at one another. All of us love all kinds of music, and that enthusiasm is what is truly contagious, not all the hatred, carping, and nit-picking. If anyone wants to get in touch with me they can e-mail me at mglaser@berklee.edu, or check out the following websites: http://www.pbs.org/jazz/about/pdfs/Glaser.pdf ------------------------- and that's it! citizen kafka -- Listen ANY TIME at: http://www.citizenkafka.com/sma/sound/soundmain.html Citizen Kafka, Producer, "The Secret Museum of the Air" every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM http://wfmu.org/ then go to 'listen to wfmu' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obits] Walter keane, Harold Burroughs Rhodes, Charlie Lourie, Date: 06 Jan 2001 02:29:30 -0500 In alt.obituaries, Matthew Hubbard wrote: Walter Keane, an artist most often associated with portraits of "cute" children with abnormally large eyes, died on Dec. 27 at the age of 85. He had been suffering from lung and kidney ailments. Keane and his ex-wife Margaret got into a court dispute over the authorship of the "big eyed" paintings, which later included paintings of large eyed animals as well as children. In 1986, A federal judge asked them both to produce paintings for a jury; Margaret Keane did so but Walter Keane claimed to have a bad shoulder. At another public display in the early '70s, Ms. Keane produced a painting while Walter Kean was a no-show. Even Herb Caen, who knew Mr. Keane from the days when both were fixtures of San Francisco nightlife, concluded that Margaret Keane was the real perpetrat... er, originator of the style. =============== The year 2000 Darwin Award winners are on the site: http://www.darwinawards.com/ ===== http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010104/us/deaths_376.html LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Harold Burroughs Rhodes, the inventor of the electric piano used by countless jazz and rock musicians, died Dec. 17 of complications from pneumonia. He was 89. Rhodes, who ran a chain of piano studios from Los Angeles to New York before World War II, joined the Army and developed a piano to teach injured soldiers confined to bed. In 1955, Rhodes went into partnership with guitar and amplifier maker Leo Fender. Because of design disagreements, they never produced his concept for an electric piano but they did create Rhodes' 32-note piano bass. It wasn't until 10 years later, when CBS took over Fender, that Rhodes' piano was made and successfully marketed. The instrument is considered critical in the evolution of jazz-rock in the 1970s. It gave the music of artists such as Herbie Hancock, Miles Davis and Chick Corea a sound that blended well with other instruments and had a true piano touch. === http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010104/us/deaths_376.html STAMFORD, Conn. (AP) - Charlie Lourie, a founder of the sophisticated jazz recording label Mosaic, died Dec. 31 of heart failure, his family said. He was 60. Mosaic, founded 17 years ago by Lourie and Michael Cuscuna, produces CD and vinyl record reissues of noted jazz performances, usually in limited editions prized by serious fans. Mosaic productions, sold only by mail, have ranged from a double-CD set of Don Cherry recordings to an 18-disk set of recordings by Nat ``King'' Cole. The sets are accompanied by essays by jazz critics and historians. ==== http://www.msnbc.com/news/512441.asp?0cm=c30 Big-band leader Les Brown dies 'Sentimental Journey' writer also did tours with Bob Hope and was instrumental in bringing Grammys ceremony to TV ASSOCIATED PRESS LOS ANGELES, Jan. 5 - Les Brown, whose Band of Renown scored a No. 1 hit with "Sentimental Journey" during America's big band era of the 1930s and ' 40s, has died of lung cancer. He was 88. Brown died Thursday night at his home, according to his daughter, Denise Marsh. AS RECENTLY AS five months ago, Brown was still touring and performing swing music. The Guinness Book of Records recognized him as the leader of the longest lasting musical organization in pop music history. Brown formed his Band of Renown in 1936. He co-wrote "Sentimental Journey," which was sung by Doris Day. It became a theme song for men and women returning home from World War II. "The happiest times in my life were the days when I was traveling with Les and his band," Day said. "I loved Les very much, I am going to miss his phone calls." CLOSE FRIEND OF BOB HOPE Brown's career included a close association with Bob Hope. In 1950, he joined Hope for the first of 18 Christmas tours to entertain American troops at military bases around the world. Day also participated. "The world has lost a great musician," Hope said. "I have lost my music man, my sideman, my straight man and a special friend." As the first president of the Los Angeles chapter of the Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences, Brown helped make the Grammy Awards a televised event. He convinced Hope, Frank Sinatra and Bing Crosby to participate in the first telecast. In addition to his daughter, Brown is survived by his wife, Evelyn; and son, Les Brown Jr. No services were scheduled. === LANCASTER, Pa. (AP) -- Jose Greco, the famed flamenco dancer and choreographer who founded the Jose Greco Spanish Dance Company, died Dec. 31 of heart failure. He was 82. Born in Montorio nei Frentani, Italy, of Spanish-Italian parents, he moved to Seville, Spain, at the age of 3, then was raised in Brooklyn from the age of 10. He began his career in 1937 and became known as the greatest Spanish dancer in the world. In 1941, the already famous Argentine-born dancer La Argentinita (known off the stage as Encarnacion Lopez) was preparing for an American tour when she saw Greco dance and asked him to perform as her partner and the featured male performer in her company until she died in 1945. After that, Greco danced with her sister Pilar Lopez. In 1951, Greco shared with Carol Channing the title of ''New Broadway Personality of the Year.'' The Jose Greco Dance Company, which helped integrate flamenco with mainstream ballet, toured extensively in North America, and six times worldwide, over the following two decades. In 1962, he Greco was knighted by the Spanish government. In 1971, Greco formed the Foundation for Hispanic Dance. His autobiography, ''Gypsy in My Soul: The Autobiography of Jose Greco,'' was published in 1977. ==== Eddy Shaver= NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Eddy Shaver, a guitarist who performed with his father Billy Joe Shaver and Dwight Yoakam, died Sunday. The cause of death was not released. He was 38. (accidental heroin overdose) Eddy Shaver grew up around music because of his father, a celebrated songwriter whose songs include ``I'm Just an Old Chuck of Coal (But I'm Gonna Be a Diamond Someday)'' and ``Georgia on a Fast Train.'' Dickie Betts of The Allman Brothers Band helped teach Eddy Shaver to play and gave him his two favorite guitars, one formerly owned by the late guitarist Duane Allman. Eddy Shaver began playing guitar with his father at 13, and gradually became Billy Joe Shaver's musical partner and sometime co-writer. Billy Joe Shaver merged from country to a more rock-influenced sound because of his son. Albums by the band Shaver include ``Tramp on Your Street,'' the live ''Shaver: Unshaven,'' and ''Electric Shaver.'' A new album, ''The Earth Rolls On,'' is set for release on March 20. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) [obits] Walter keane Date: 06 Jan 2001 09:50:27 -0600 Lou Smith wrote: > Even Herb Caen, who knew Mr. Keane from the days > when both were fixtures of San Francisco nightlife, concluded that > Margaret Keane was the real perpetrat... er, originator of the style. Last summer I was fortunate enough to see the Margaret Keane retrospective at the Laguna Art Museum in Laguna Nigel, California. Like many others, I had previously been a detractor of Ms. Keane's art. When I saw her show, I realized that most of those big-eyed paintings that I'd been deriding since my youth were actually cheap knockoffs by the many Keane imitators (Eve, Lee, Ozz Franca) who flooded the market in the sixties. Genuine Keane's have a disturbing and melancholy eerieness that's very difficult to explain. Nobody in her early paintings ever smiles. Her portrait of Joan Crawford is stunning. Very few people realize that she was in high demand as a celebrity portrait painter. Her work also hangs in the UN. Despite my misgivings, I found myself completely charmed by her work. Are they kitsch? Yes, definitely. Are they bad art? No, absolutely not. The names of artists working today who were influenced by her reads like a Who's Who of post-postmodern pop-cultural ironists: Mark Ryden, Lisa Petrucci, Dave Burke, and Megan Besmirched. -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: (exotica) Les Brown gone Date: 06 Jan 2001 09:20:47 -0800 (PST) Les Brown died on Friday. The last of the Big Band leaders? -->Host Your Site For Just $9.95 @ http://www.buzzlink.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tipsydave@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Yo Vivire/Celia Cruz Date: 06 Jan 2001 18:29:29 EST Celia Cruz is generally considered the queen of latin music. She's now in her 70s, and she's still active; Yo Vivire is from Siempre Vivire, one of five albums she released last year (I think she has about100 albums out). She's amazing. -dave In a message dated 1/5/01 5:24:35 PM, risser@cinci.rr.com writes: << I solved my own problem. It's by Celia Cruz. While this looks like some chick, it seems to actually be a rave-up Cubano band. It's a great booty-shakin' version. Look it up! >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) [obits] Walter Keane Date: 07 Jan 2001 01:01:02 +0100 Matt Marchese schrieb: > Lou Smith wrote: > > > Margaret Keane was the real perpetrat... er, originator of the style. I cannot agree here. Walter Keane invented the kids. It goes back to past war days when he was a soldier stationed in Berlin and saw those starving homeless kids on the street, who looked at him with their big sad eyes. They were the original models for the Keane kids. Somehow Margret was the better and more diverse painter in the long run. > Last summer I was fortunate enough to see the Margaret Keane retrospective at > the Laguna Art Museum in Laguna Nigel, California. Envy! Is there a catalogue from that show? > cheap knockoffs by the many Keane imitators (Eve, Lee, Ozz Franca) who > flooded the market in the sixties. There are good ones as well. I like that dog painter Gig especially. > Genuine Keane's have a disturbing and melancholy eerieness that's very difficult > to explain. (see above!) Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: Re: (exotica) [obits] Walter Keane Date: 06 Jan 2001 19:54:07 -0500 > > Last summer I was fortunate enough to see the Margaret Keane retrospective at > > the Laguna Art Museum in Laguna Nigel, California. > Envy! Is there a catalogue from that show? You can order a catalog (only 2000 made) from the following website for $11 ($15 outside of U.S.). http://www.sympathyrecords.com/keane/booklet.html It's 36 pages, composed mostly of essays. Only 12 pages are dedicated to color reproductions, but I guess thats better than nothing. Megan Besmirched has a great web site dedicated to 'big eye' art. http://besmirched.tripod.com/eyes2.html I found her guide to the various artists who dealt in this genre quite interesting. I own a videotape of Little Marcy singing about 15 songs - the cover has a drawing of Little Marcy done in the 'big-eye' format. Actually, with a closer look, I see that the Little Marcy doll itself is done in the big-eye style. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) [obits] Walter Keane Date: 06 Jan 2001 19:49:49 -0600 itsvern@attglobal.net wrote: > You can order a catalog (only 2000 made) from the following website for $11 ($15 > outside of U.S.). http://www.sympathyrecords.com/keane/booklet.html > It's 36 pages, composed mostly of essays. Only 12 pages are dedicated to color > reproductions, but I guess thats better than nothing. Yes, the lack of repros in the catalog was kind of a letdown after that great exhibit. However, the museum was also showcasing Sandow Birk's "In Smog and Thunder" show; a massive collection of absolutely wonderful mock battle paintings of that purport to tell the history of a prolonged war between northern and southern California. Having lived in both Los Angeles and San Francisco for many years, I found it to be a totally hilarious parody of the cultural state of war that's existed between the two cities for decades. The Birk catalogue was wonderful and even came with a CD that contains an historical narration and simulated combat! > I own a videotape of Little Marcy singing about 15 songs - the cover has a drawing of > Little Marcy done in the 'big-eye' format. Actually, with a closer look, I see that > the Little Marcy doll itself is done in the big-eye style. The Little Miss No Name dolls are far creepier than Little Marcy. Too bad they don't sing... http://www.grrl.com/noname.html -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tipsydave@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Yo Vivire Date: 06 Jan 2001 21:10:54 EST Actually, I just saw an astonishingly stacked blonde (I missed her name) performing the same song on one of the spanish-language networks, and there's a latin/dance version by Lailo(?) w/Gloria Gaynor as well, so there are three recent, spanish-language versions of this song. go figure. -dave In a message dated 1/5/01 5:24:35 PM, risser@cinci.rr.com writes: << I solved my own problem. It's by Celia Cruz. While this looks like some chick, it seems to actually be a rave-up Cubano band. It's a great booty-shakin' version. Look it up! Peter > I was in Orlando, on the way to Disneyworld and heard a rockin' Cubano > version of I Will Survive in Spanish. Who did it? Anyone? I'm sure it's > modern, but I have no idea where to look or who to ask. Is anyone on this > list into modern Hispanic music, and might know what I'm talking about? >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, January 7 Date: 06 Jan 2001 21:50:16 -0500 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #124 Arjan's #1 This week, we're playing a compilation put together by Arjan (for the Exotica Ring), and it's really great - a real mix of everything from ye-ye to humppa. Tune in and hear it for yourself! Skatalites: Ska-ra-van Eilart Pilarm: In The Ghetto The Motivations: The Birds France Gall: On Se Resemble Toi Et Moi Aavikko: Alas Volgaa Aavikko: Boa King Stitt: Lee Van Cleef Mieskuoro Huutajat: The Starspangled Banner Impact All Stars: Extraordinary Version Leningrad Cowboys & Alexandrov Red Army Ensemble: Gimme All Your Lovin' The Treble Spankers: Popcorn Francoise Hardy: Reve Elakaleiset: Hump Billy Miranda: Go Ahea Ennio Morricone: Ci Risiamo, Vero Provvidenza? Lord Kitchener: Cricket Champions The Spiders: Ozewiezowoze The Swanks: Ghost Train The Ran-dells: Martian Hop Thanks for reading, and thanks for listening. cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "william" Subject: (exotica) tokyo & bootlegs Date: 06 Jan 2001 11:25:18 +0800 i tried to post this before but it got bounced back. hopefully it makes it through this time. hi all, i'm going to be heading to tokyo from the 19-23rd so any suggestions for japanese only re-issues that i should be on the lookout for? or anything else i should consider splurging on? mark d. head what was that 5th garden release you were telling me about? also a question about bootlegs. is there any way to tell if a cd is a bootleg or not? one of my students told me that if it doesn't have an IFPI number then it is a bootleg. but if this is true, some of my cds i thought were bootlegs are not and some that i thought weren't bootlegs are. anyone out there know anything about this? i've been enjoying the ray coniff thread. i have certain misgivings about ray coniff though. how is the christmas album? i saw the cd for 5 or 6 bucks u.s. today. is it worth picking up at that price? incidentally i saw this while picking up this double nancy sinatra best of that was released on one of the bigger taiwan record labels (rock records) in 97. the lyrics are even translated into chinese. but no really cool pictures or anything. but i'm not complaining as it was just a little over 10 bucks u.s.:) william in taipei. ps. i believe my first purchase of 2001 was the p5 in the bag vinyl collectors set. this was a package released in japan only. a vinyl bag, with 4 12" records and 2 7" records. it appears that there is some serious cribbing going on on the 12" records. in the past i had told myself i was going to pass on this p5 release. but my resistance weakened. and at least this way i am forced to buy a turntable.:) i guess my vinyl days aren't quite over after all # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: (exotica) Ken Burns Jazz Date: 06 Jan 2001 23:55:08 -0500 Hi, everyone, I agree that almost anyone would have done a fairer, more balanced presentation of jazz. Did Burns use the "monster star" approach in "Baseball?" I have heard that George Gershwin was not mentioned. If that is true, then Wynton Marsalis and company (Ken Burns wouldn't know better) are really biased beyond reason. A substantial number of bebop tunes were based on the chord structure of pop standards like "i've got rhythm." To discuss this does not detract from the towering accomplishments of Bird and Diz one iota (they are heroes of mine), but to avoid/deny/omit it is shabby, biased history at best, and conscious prevarication. the more i think about the omissions the more i am annoyed. as my friend Matt points out, this series will certainly do more to catapult jazz into the general public's interest than any other event of the past 30 years, and generate sales of records, books, and videos. On the other hand, it is being touted as the complete and all-encompassing story of jazz, and it isn't, by a long shot. i will reserve judgement on a host of other issues until i see it... citizen kafka -- Listen ANY TIME at: http://www.citizenkafka.com/sma/sound/soundmain.html Citizen Kafka, Producer, "The Secret Museum of the Air" every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM http://wfmu.org/ then go to 'listen to wfmu' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Risser Family" Subject: Re: (exotica) Yo Vivire/Celia Cruz Date: 06 Jan 2001 23:56:26 -0500 That's funny, because it totally doesn't sound like a woman. Peter > Celia Cruz is generally considered the queen of latin music. She's now in her > 70s, and she's still active; Yo Vivire is from Siempre Vivire, one of five > albums she released last year (I think she has about100 albums out). She's > amazing. > -dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Keane Subject: Re: (exotica) [obits] Walter Keane Date: 07 Jan 2001 07:53:48 -0600 (CST) On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Moritz R wrote: > > > > Matt Marchese schrieb: > > > Lou Smith wrote: > > > > Last summer I was fortunate enough to see the Margaret > > Keane retrospective at > > the Laguna Art Museum in Laguna Nigel, California. > > Envy! Is there a catalogue from that show? Yes, there is. I work for an art library, and I ordered one over the phone from them. There was a page at their site that listed the catalogs they have: http://www.lagunaartmuseum.org I couldn't find the page that listed the catalogs and prices, but anyone who wants a catalog could call and ask. It looks like a really interesting museum. -- Kerry Keane (no relation) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) New eXotica Releases Overview Update Date: 07 Jan 2001 14:40:37 +0100 A new update to the "eXotica Releases Overview" is available. These are the most important recent additions, that where not yet announced or reviewed in the Exotica List, plus older items with new comments. (If you would like to receive the unabridged updates on a regular base by e-mail, just let me know you want to get on my " eXotica Releases Overview updater") - January 6: new releases, announcements, and corrections - * The Lorraine Bowen Experience: "Bossy Nova" o CD, Sequined Skirt, UK, 2000 * Hypnomen: "Watusi" o CD, MuSick Recordings MU 0014, USA, 2000 CD, Humppa 017, Germany, 2000 o comment: + Johan: My rating: Very Good! Great, though maybe these guys should decide what kind of music they want to make: Davie Allan imitations (like at least 5 out of the 14 tracks), or more adventurous cocktails, like on the other tracks: funky breakbeat-boogaloo, powerpop-surf, exotic twang... + Reviewed in "Cool And Strange Music Magazine" issue 16 * Ennio Morricone: "Morricone 2001" o CD/LP, Dagored, Italy, 2000 * Various Artists: "Blow Up Presents Exclusive Blend Volume 3" o CD/Double LP, Blow Up, UK, 2000 o comment: + Johan: My rating: EXCELLENT!! For this 3rd volume, Paul Tunkin croossed the channel, and visited the French music library "Telemusic". The result is a loungecore collection with a definite French flavor, and much more variation than the previous 2 volumes. Sometimes funky, on 1 sitar track slightly oriental, and on another 13+ minutes of prog EZ, but always with a big production sound. Also includes 2 very French, heavenly female wordless vocal tracks. Compositions by Guy Pederson and Bernard Estardy fill most of this CD. Pederson is better composition-wise, writing better melodies arrangements, while Estardy sounds remarkably modern, groovy in a repetitive way, with Moogish effects, and a total sound not unlike today's "breakbeat" artists. 16 tracks, 55 minutes total. Highly recommended! * Various Artists: "Jungle Jazz" o Double LP, ?, Italy, 2000 o comment: + Stefan Kery of Subliminal Sounds: A hot selection of jazzy jungle tracks selected by the young but experienced Italian dj Matteo Sola. * Various Artists: "More Delicious Spaghetti Western" o CD, Dagored 115, Italy, 2000 o comment: + Johan: follow-up to "My Delicious Spaghetti Western", with some well-known Spaghetti Western film music by Ennio Morricone (My name is nobody; Tepepa; I crudeli), Piero Piccioni, Luis Bacalov (Django), Armando Trovajoli, Riz Ortolani. * SOUNDTRACK: "77 Sunset Strip" by Warren Barker o CD, WEA 247762, Germany, 2000 * SOUNDTRACK: "Zombi" (Dawn of the Dead) by Goblin o Double LP, Dagored 117, Italy, 2000 CD, Cinevox MDF 308, Italy, 2000 o comment: + Johan: My rating: Good. The LP is on 180 gram vinyl, in a gatefold sleeve, and includes a repro of the original film poster. The music is typical for Goblin's scores for Argento horror flicks: prog-rock, sometimes resembling Pink Floyd. * SOUNDTRACK: "The Italian Job" by Quincy Jones o CD, MCA/Island 112488, UK, 2000 - January 6: more or less recent (1999) stuff - * The Hammertoes: "I Too Have Sinned" o CD, Tortuga Records 0361, USA, 1999 o comment: + Reviewed in Cool And Strange Music Magazine issue 15 * Al Garcia and The Rhythm Kings: "Exotic Rockin' Instrumentals, 1963-1964" o CD,Dionysus Records BA 1135, USA, 1999 o comment: + Reviewed in Cool And Strange Music Magazine issue 15 * The Nuclear Whales Saxopphone Orchestra: "Fathom This" (A retrospective) o CD, Whaleco Music WM 105, USA, 1999 o comment: + Johan: See their web site: http://www.nuclearwhales.com/ + Reviewed in Cool And Strange Music Magazine issue 15 * Swingerhead: "She Might Be A Spy" o CD, Colossal COL98-0001, USA, 1999 o comment: + Reviewed in Cool And Strange Music Magazine issue 15 - January 6: other interesting finds I stumbled on - * Gilberto Gil: "Gilberto Gil" (1968) o CD, PolyGram 518121, Brazil, 1998 o comment: + Johan: reissue of his 1968 "Tropicalia" LP album (Philips 765.024), plus 4 bonus tracks, one of them with Os Mutantes. * The Jethros: "Love Musix" o CD, Jethros, USA, 2000? o comment: + Johan: Tracks: 1 - Love Will Keep Us Together. 2 - Your Cheatin' Heart 3 - Sweet Caroline. 4 - Light My Fire 5 - Loving You. 6 - Unchained Melody 7 - You're Having My Baby. 8 - Close To You 9 - Town Without Pity. 10 - I Can't Control Myself 11 - Delila. 12 - 96 Tears 13 - I Think We're Alone Now. 14 - Like A Virgin 15 - You're Something Special To Me (Shagg's cover). Available from thejethros.com/ for $16. * Silver Apples: "Silver Apples" (or "Silver Apples/ Contact") o CD, MCA CD MCAD-11680, 1997 o comment: + Tom Rombouts: CD reissue of two late 60's LP's by New York based electronic pioneering duo Silver Apples. The first nine tracks are the 1968 LP "Silver Apples" and the second nine are the 1969 LP "Contact" Booklet includes original artwork, photos, and brief interview with duo member Simeon. (Note - same audio material without booklet issued on CD as TRC 039 in 1994) Total time 73 minutes. Kind of a cross between early electronica and psychedelia. Maybe a stretch, but to me similar in some ways to Bruce Haack but not as whimsical. Duo featured a homemade oscillator with many wires, meters and dials, and an elaborate percussion setup. If you ignore the vocals, much of this anticipated today's techno music including some sampling of non-musical background sounds. However, since the oscillator could only be set to produce a few tones at a time, some of the riffs can get repititious. The second nine tracks were more elaborately produced, and have a wider range of styles and sounds including a banjo at times. Personally I would give it ++++ out of five, but keep in mind I am a big psyche fan. Detailed history of Silver Apples (including a late 90's comeback) at www.allmusic.com/ * Les Tambours De Brazza: "Zangoula" o CD, Contre-Jour/ Munich cj007, ?, 2000? * The Jethros: "The Dark Side of the Xmas Tree II" o CD-R, Jethros, USA, 199? o comment: + Johan: Has the same songs as on the deleted Arf! Arf! compilation "", plus ALL their new xmas songs! ... all 4 of them. + Lou Smith: You can get The Dark Side of the Xmas Tree II (CDR only for the moment) from thejethros.com/Musix.html for $16. * Various Artists: "The Elevator Collection" o CD, ?, USA?, 199? o comment: + Jerry Larson: a too-short (!!) CD with these tracks: 1) Harlem Nocturne - Esquivel (2) Moon Is Blue, The - Sauter-Finnegan (3) Moonlight In Vermont - Hugh Winterhalter (4) Night Train - Buddy Morrow (5) Stars Fell On Alabama - The Three Suns ( 6) Teach Me Tonight - Ann-Margaret (7) Blue Moon - Melachrino Strings (8) Some Enchanted Evening - Ralph Flanagan (9) That Old Black Magic - Marty Gold & Orchestra (10) Three O'Clock In The Morning - Hugo & Luigi Chorus * Various Artists: "The Exotic Mood of Chaotic VooDoo! Riot In The Jungle" o CD, Mom and Dad Records (Roots Of Punk), ?, 1993 o comment: + Brian Linds: It's a Cd full of great Voodoo and Jungle music excluding the first 25 minutes which is aggrivating feedback from a guitar. The people who put out the Cd tried to hide the fact that it was on there by starting the track listings at #2. produced by Naohiro Ukawa/Toru Terasima. The cover of this Cd is a fold out of great pictures of a naked Voodoo woman, a chicken, and skull. It's cool! Here's the listing... (2) Voo-Doo Incantation - Richard Hayman (3) Roots of Jazz - Prince onago and Princess muana (4) Whistling Bongos - Chaino (5) African Cry Baby - Prince onago and Princess muana (6) That's How She Wlks - Guy warren (7) Afro - Richard Hayman (8) My Athem - Guy warren (9) The Warriors Chant - Princess onago and... (10) Voo-Doo Bamboos - Chaino (11) Calypso Blues - berkley "Peanuts" Taylor (12) Voo-Doo mambo - Cyril " Afro Drums" Jackson (13) Sumac (soo mak) - Chaino (14) Thunder Orgy - Original sound Track Of " Dingaka" (15) Black Doll - Prince onago and Princess... (16) When The Saints Go marching In - Prince onago and Princess...(this is (unbelievable) (17) Tarzan - Don Randi Trio (18) Tropical Safari- Don randi trio (19) Ceremonial Rain Dance - Don Randi Trio (Kee-Ka-Roo - walter Wanderley (01) Live 82 April 12 Studio Ahiru-Osaka - Hanatarash >>> most comments by members of the Exotica Newsletter, >>> members of the Popnouveau Newsletter, >>> from Jack Diamond Music sale lists >>> and Subliminal Sounds sale lists >>> Additions & corrections are more than welcome! >>> The "XRO" is a discography, NOT a sale catalog! The eXotica Releases Overview is part of "Dada's Exotiquarium": http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada1 Johan Dada Vis quiet@village.uunet.be # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) Thai Elephant Orchestra Date: 07 Jan 2001 15:30:03 +0100 from News of the Weird # 674 The debut CD from the Thai Elephant Orchestra (Lampang, Thailand) was scheduled for December release, featuring six pachyderm prodigies playing crude versions of traditional instruments (drum, gong, bass, xylophone) and recorded intact, without overdubbing, to create music that (in the words of a New York Times writer) "strike(s) some Western listeners as haunting, others as monotonous." The CD's American producers, pointing to much academic research on elephants' natural musical abilities, said they plan a second album ("easy-listening," engineered, they said, to make it more accessible to a wider audience). [New York Times, 12-16-00] Arjan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Karasick Subject: Re:(exotica) Info: Berlin... Date: 07 Jan 2001 12:26:42 -0500 Moritz wrote: >Delicious Doughnuts, Rosenthaler Strasse 9 (Mitte) ab 21 Uhr. One more reason why Berlin is my favourite city (OK next to Paris)! The name of this place is a play on DDR (Deutsche Demokratische Republik - ie East Germany) and it is appropriately located in the now very hip Mitte district of the once very unhip (at least since WW2) East Berlin. This area reminds me of SoHo back in the early days. I say this as a good part of the Mitte district was still in "post war - communist laissez faire" state but if the development continues at the pace it was going during our visit last year, by now there's a good chance it is completely transformed. I can still remember visiting this area before the wall came down and it was quite a different place back then. Brian (confirmed Berlin-fanatic) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pinwhiz@pop.ihug.co.nz Subject: (exotica) 1950s Library Music? Date: 07 Jan 2001 20:49:33 GMT Apologies if I posted this message here before - but my post never showed up so I'll try again.... A local 2nd Hand Dealer here in Auckland, New Zealand has for sale part of the Inhouse Production Music Library that used to belong to the New Zealand Radio Broadcasting Corporation (Our equivilent of BBC Radio) There are boxes & boxes of these records and they all appear to date from 1950 to 1958. All are 78rpm & many appear to be single sided. Most are on English Labels and appear to have been made especially for Radio Production use and most of the labels seem to have used the same house band on each record. They all appear to be music rather than just sound effects. While many of the records are things like swing, waltz, etc some look more interesting. There are whole series of records like "Exotic Places" with titles like "Persian Market", "Orient Nights" etc & a whole series for use on Childrens programs with titles like "Pixes Dance" etc. The problem I have is that the dealer wants $3NZ each for these and as these are 78s with only 1 or 2 tracks per record the price is above my normal "buy it to see what it sounds like" level. (There are a few records with "Rock&Roll" type tracks on them which I think has made the dealer involved put a premium on all the records.) Does anyone out there know anything about 1950s production music?? Or know anything about the labels who produced I know the 1960s & 70s era stuff has been widely mined for recent compilations but the earlier stuff is a mystery to me. Cheers Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Playlist "Casa Nostra" 1.5.01 Date: 07 Jan 2001 16:41:38 EST "Casa Nostra" airs on 88.1FM WMBR Cambridge MA @ MIT from Midnight-2 Fridays "Casa Nostra" plays loungecore, breakbeat, e-z house, softpop & exotica from Space Age to Bass Age "Casa Nostra" is hosted and produced by James Botticelli (THANX FOR READING) Cecil Holmes Soulful Sounds-2001 Les Gammas-Service Mr. Bond Hugo Montenegro-The Shark (from Lady In Cement) Lego-Contemplation Stacy Kidd-Jazzy Dayz (Chicago House track) Ted Heath-Johnny One-Note Russ Garcia Orchestra-Lost Souls On Saturn Cubismo Grafico-Salon Sunday Mohawks-Soul Organ Jacknife Lee-Sweet Potato Brass Impact-On My Mind Nicola Conte-Il Cerchio Rosso Senor Coconut-Trans Europe Express Chim Kothari-Downtown Losfeld-20,000 Records Men From The Nile-Watch Them Come Neal Hefti-Here's To My Lover (from How To Murder Your Wife) Tipsy-Hard Petting (version that uses Sally Go Round The Roses as sample) The Match-Through Spray Colored Glasses Piero Piccioni-O Rugido Do Leao (remix) Sunny Face-late At Night Bobby Byrne-Barbarella Natural Calamity-That's Saying A Lot Wei Chi-Heaven Wondermints-Don't Go Breaking My Heart Can 7-Cruisin' (thanks Br Cleve) Dells-One Less Bell To Answer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Otto Subject: (exotica) ukulele player wanted Date: 07 Jan 2001 22:55:13 -0800 I'm looking for a ukulele player for a regular gig in the Los Angeles area possibly starting in March or May please email me directly cheers Otto otto@tikinews.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Fernsehprogramm vom Montag, den 8. Januar 2001 Date: 08 Jan 2001 12:10:59 +0100 Heute: 16.15 Uhr - 17.00 Uhr: west3 Die Abenteuer des Thor Heyerdahl (1) "Kon-Tiki" auf Sonnenkurs; Viertlg. Reihe von Christopher Ralling 23.15 Uhr - 0.00 Uhr: phoenix Die Abenteuer des Thor Heyerdahl (1) "Kon-Tiki" auf Sonnenkurs; Viertlg. Reihe von Christopher Ralling # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) bedazzled tonight Date: 08 Jan 2001 09:08:11 -0500 For a TV choice that's a bit less of a loaded pistol ("Jazz"), tonight (Monday) AMC is showing the original 1967 version of "Bedazzled" at 8:00pm and 12:30am (eastern). The late showing is supposed to be in letterbox format. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCckert?= Subject: (exotica) Ken Burns's Jazz Date: 08 Jan 2001 16:26:17 +0100 =20 Viewers, remember: it is a film about jazz, not the film about jazz. It is special and memorable and at times exciting. But the greatest service it could provide for the world would be to initiate other films about jazz that might be more educational about music, less isolationist and long-winded. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/07/arts/07RATL.html?pagewanted=3Dall Is the Burns series a fair representation of jazz? The question was put to= =20 musicians and others in the jazz world, who were provided with tapes of the series. JOE LOVANO Saxophonist: This brilliantly made series was a huge undertaking, an attempt to tackle a subject that was nearly impossible to fairly document in 10 episodes. It would have to run weekly for quite a while to focus not only on the stars we know and love but also on more of the innovative musicians who have contributed to each generation of the music.=20 http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/07/arts/07ROBE.html?pagewanted=3Dall May I just add that such series did exist, beit on radio, in The= Netherlands? It ran for decades, thanks to the life long devotion of the late Michiel de Ruyter. 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There's Latin spice by Bert Kaempfert, Edmundo Ros, Willie Rodriguez and George Shearing, plus we sample the new CD by the Intergalactic Contemporary Ensemble (their cover of Yma Sumac's "Taki Rari" is a stunner!). Also on the menu...rare crime jazz from "The D.A.'s Man", "The Big Operator" and "The Man from Interpol", among others; bossas by Martin Denny, Bebel Gilberto and Pete Jacques; Nino Nardini and Roger Roger's ultra-rare "Jungle Obsession" now on CD (think Les Baxter meets Mandingo); along with tunes by Esquivel, Cal Tjader, Dean Elliott, the Metropole Orchestra and Mirageman; and we'll dip into German TV commercials with the effervescent "Popshopping" CD. To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour on the web, just visit: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html As always, your comments, suggestions and requests are welcome. Thanks for the space! Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Yo Vivire/Celia Cruz Date: 08 Jan 2001 13:12:42 -0500 >That's funny, because it totally doesn't sound like a woman. Wait until you hear Celeste Mendoza on Cuba Classics 2: Dancing with the Enemy on Luaka Bop. She sounds like a man! Cruz is great, I am very glad to have seen her last year. She says, "I plan to die onstage". Can't hate someone like that! Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil Ford Subject: (exotica) wynton marsalis *is* jazz! Date: 08 Jan 2001 14:30:50 +0100 With all the discussion of Ken Burns' "Jazz" series on PBS, there has also been a good deal of talk about Wynton Marsalis. And it occured to me this morning: why is it that being a historicist means being a reactionary in Marsalis' case, while from the 1950s to the 1970s it meant exactly the opposite? Jackie Byard, Sun Ra, Charles Mingus, Herbie Nichols, Thelonious Monk, etc etc etc. were all "walking encyclopedias" of jazz styles, and they played music that drew from and manipulated different jazz-historical periods, often within the a single piece of music, or even within the same 8 measures. Their self-conscious historical reference was something sort of "modernistic" or "out there" -- all these guys would have been considered pretty progressive in their time. But the same historicist borrowing nowadays suggests something else when Marsalis does it: each solo or composition becomes a little pantheon that enshrines Marsalis' favored musicians -- as always, with the polemical aim of demonstrating what "real jazz" is, and why Wynton is it. It seems to me that when Mingus (for ex.) bracketed off various jazz styles and treated them as compositional elements, the effect was to turn jazz into its own subject (a reflexive modernist gesture) and to affirm the inter-relationship of newness and tradition. But since Marsalis doesn't care about newness as such, his attempts to do the same thing come off as a sort of pretentious kitsch, miming the grand gestures of the past without really honoring (or understanding) their original intent. What remains is a message of Marsalis' own sense of his Place In History: I am jazz. I actually like some of Marsalis' own playing, but his I-am-jazz pretentions give me the creeps, and I look forward to "Jazz" with trepidation. Being the creative consultant of the largest and most brouhaha'ed mass-media account of jazz history has to be a sore temptation to someone with Marsalis' particular weakness for grandiosity. Phil # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ken Burns Jazz Date: 08 Jan 2001 17:08:21 -0500 The most recent reviews I've seen (even the favorable one) all mention that the music is chopped rather short. Almost no complete songs. If true, that would annoy me more than any of the other factors we've been talking about. To have 19 hours of running time and still slice 'n' dice the music like an "A&E Biography" is inexcusable. It is surprising how much controversy the series is creating (and I don't mean just on this list). It's either a reflection of the passion of jazz fans, or... they screwed it up bigtime. Time will tell... m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Subject: (exotica) La Paloma Date: 08 Jan 2001 23:27:18 +0100 My girlfriend just called me up to tell me that a 4 CD boxset containing different versions of the classic song La Paloma has been released by the German record company Trikont (www.trikont.de). I went to their website and though I haven=B4t checked all, it looked very promising. But take a look for Yourselves. There is an option to view the site in English. The La Paloma collection was compiled by German musician Kalle Laar of whom I don`t know much but a link brought me to www.klangmuseum.de a very interesting site that could be of interest to most of You. Now I=B4ll go do a more thorough chech. I just thought I=B4d share this with You. James # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) La Paloma Date: 09 Jan 2001 11:42:36 +0100 James schrieb: > 4 CD boxset containing different versions of the classic song La Paloma has > been released by the German record company Trikont (www.trikont.de). > www.klangmuseum.de a very interesting site Confirmed. The La Paloma collection is a must for the exotica lover in my opinion. I've heard 3 CDs so far, which were published seperately. Those guys of the Klangmuseum were responsible for a couple of interestimng radio programs as well as for numerous live events, some of them with explicit exotic content. They lose me however, when they try to sell their stuff as serious "art" in museum context. But hey, maybe someone has to cultivate that field as well... Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Ken Burns Jazz Date: 09 Jan 2001 09:58:10 -0500 >To have 19 hours of running time and still slice 'n' dice the music like an >"A&E Biography" is inexcusable. ...and with no attribution, either. I heard Johnny Dunn's "Bugle Call Rag", which I like, but it started after the intro (which is my favorite bit) and cut off well before the end. Thus the music that is the subject of the documentary serves as less than soundtrack; it becomes background. For myself, I am also waiting for the footage that one can't help avoiding. One piece has already been shown, that of the cakewalking people in their finery, although the speed seems to have been corrected. Others will undoubtedly be: - the head rag wearing women in the Cotton Club who take off their skirts and dance a hot number (I have seen this so many times with so many different soundtracks, I am quite certain this is silent footage) - a shot of a lit, elevated train. - Duke Ellington in "Check and Double Check", the horn section uses hat mutes. To further bolster what Worth has said, tonight's episode is 1917 to 1924, for TWO hours! I happen to like a lot from that era but sheesh and dang! For Marsalis' bits, they do focus on him a lot and he is talking about things that he, of course, couldn't have seen, but could have read about and been told, to be sure. For this bit, they might have done well to talk to his father Ellis, as well. It does make Wynton Marsalis sound like a know-it-all, but if he was his age, Wynton Marsalis, not a musician, but a historian and on the "Civil War" show, I might look at that differently. I still don't mind his involvement in the show, but he does suffer as being branded by the media as seemingly the ONLY person who is a musician who knows his history. He's young, cute (my wife thinks I am cuter, but I tampered with the vote), has Grammys and knows how to talk to the camera. As I said before, that's showbiz. Ace is right; such a controversy! PBS airs the multipart "Rock and Roll" documentary, not a titter from either list I belong to, but this series, wow! Oh well, I didn't learn what little I know about Jazz (because I am whipping a stinky horse that hasn't budged for a week, the series is written "JAZZ", but the music still gets written up with a small "j") through the television. Here is a great site about a great book (Jazz Styles by Marck C. Gridley) that decidedly does NOT stop at the sixties: http://cw.prenhall.com/bookbind/pubbooks/gridley/ Get a copy to-day! You can even order a CD or cassette to accompany the book, which addresses my frustration with books about music, ("This piece was great, it transcended time, healed my cat...and no one has a copy of it, since it was a deleted test pressing, oh well...") Does anyone else think that Stanley Crouch is an...interesting looking fellow, Brian Phillips P.S. For that hint of "Exotica", the program did mention that "Jelly Roll" Morton (and oh didn't they dodge the phallic meaning of Jelly Roll!) sometimes applied "the latin tinge" in his compositions. It's a good thing he didn't host this show, one, he's dead, which still makes him a better choice than Ben Murphy, say, but he also claimed to have invented Jazz! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jschwart@voicenet.com Subject: (exotica) Ken Burns Date: 09 Jan 2001 10:27:11 I've never seen another Ken Burns film, but I just watched the first show of JAZZ. It's got me wondering: Did Burns invent the style of stock-footage use that is now standard on every PBS production, in which they take old silent footage and add crowd noise and other sound effects to make the footage more "realistic"? This completely drives me crazy. Do they think that modern audiences are interested in history, but not enough to watch silent film? Is there a reason they don't colorize it too? All this technique says to me is "Warning! Fakery ahead! Don't believe anything this filmmaker is telling you." Which is good advice, since it usually goes hand in hand with completely irrelevant footage used to illustrate segments for which there is no real footage (including using footage from completely different eras). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ken Burns Jazz Date: 09 Jan 2001 13:59:07 -0500 At 9:58 AM -0500 1/9/01, Brian Phillips wrote: >P.S. For that hint of "Exotica", the program did mention that "Jelly Roll" >Morton (and oh didn't they dodge the phallic meaning of Jelly Roll!) actually, Jelly Roll has the opposite meaning in jazz slang. Think about a jelly roll donut for a minute and you'll figure it out. But speaking of this series dodging the sexual meanings of it all - I read that in one episode (the first, probably), they explain that the term "jazz" is a corruption of "jass", and that they called the music that because the women that enjoyed it (in New Orleans) liked to wear jasmine perfume. Wow! And for all these years, I always thought it was because "jass" or "jazz" was black slang for ejaculate. But I guess that's too un-PC for much of the "viewer supported" crowd. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ken Burns Jazz Date: 09 Jan 2001 14:21:03 -0500 >At 9:58 AM -0500 1/9/01, Brian Phillips wrote: > >>P.S. For that hint of "Exotica", the program did mention that "Jelly Roll" >>Morton (and oh didn't they dodge the phallic meaning of Jelly Roll!) At 1:59 PM -0500 1/9/01, Br. Cleve wrote: >actually, Jelly Roll has the opposite meaning in jazz slang. Think about a >jelly roll donut for a minute and you'll figure it out. you know I just thought of some song lyrics that make the term phallic as well. I guess it goes both ways! bc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) some observations about Jazz so far Date: 09 Jan 2001 14:20:37 -0500 Yeah it's nice to see this kind of material on TV BUT... 1) The first words you hear are Wynton Marsalis saying "Jazz objectifies America". I hate this phoney intellectualism. What does that mean? Can someone explain to me what the word "objectifies" means in this context? 2) Wynton Marsalis is a good, enthusiastic storyteller. But I've heard him say many of these things before. And though there are other folks who get to talk, it's clear that Wynton is our MAIN witness. With all the resources and material available to the filmmaker, it would have been nice if we'd seen a bit more from other people. 3) Leaving aside the question of whether or not jazz was essentially invented by black folks, which the documentary is ambiguous about... it does very clearly state that jazz was invented BY Americans, for Americans, about America etc etc. etc. Geez I get tired of this America, America, America stuff. You'd think black people would be sensitive to this kind of mythmaking. What does that mean that the music is ABOUT America? And leaving that aside, how come jazz sounds so much like so much European music. Gypsy music, Turkish music, Klezmer? (I'm sure Citizen Kafka will weigh in here.) And what about the early jazz musicians who, according to the documentary itself, were trained and steeped in classical music? Or the fact that many jazz musicians were trying to create a "new" classical music...Or the fact that the instruments themselves were "European"? I don't actually care who invented it. And obviously, the influences that created jazz, came together in America. But "Jazz EQUALS America" is only interesting as a metaphor. When it's presented as a FACT, it's tiresome. 4) Finally, I notice how much "silence" - or "space" - there is in the show. How often they linger on an image or an old photograph with just music in the background. How they break up an interview and insert spaces and pauses in order to stretch the thing out. When you make films, all you ever hear about is how you could have made it shorter. So I'm embarrassed to be saying this but really, that could have been A LOT SHORTER without losing any of the material or without making it feel rushed. I might not be saying this except for the fact that the show's defenders keep talking about how "you can't include everything". It seems to me that they went out of their way NOT to include everything. They went out of their way to linger and linger and linger on the same images or the same "historical" figure. They ate up the time. Last night's episode ended around 1920. That means that there's going to be seven more episodes to take us through the next forty years. It's going to get slower. It's going to get more repetitive. You're going to hear more details about certain things than you'll "need", while lots of other ideas will simply be ignored. At no point last night, with all the loving detail and lingering on imagery, did they actually demonstrate how all the music that came before, mutated into the music that they're calling jazz. It was as if it was all understood. As if they were telling a story we all knew. As if it was all taken for granted. Sorry for the rant. I love stuff like this but even as I was enjoying it, my insides were screaming. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Ken Burns Date: 09 Jan 2001 14:41:06 -0500 At 10:27 AM 1/9/01, jschwart@voicenet.com wrote: > >I've never seen another Ken Burns film, but I just watched the first show >of JAZZ. It's got me wondering: Did Burns invent the style of stock-footage >use that is now standard on every PBS production, No he didn't. This is a long-established style. >it usually goes hand in hand with completely irrelevant footage used to >illustrate segments for which there is no real footage (including using >footage from completely different eras). Burns didn't invent this either but that's a good observation. And that's something that's relatively new. Archival footage is used in two ways. One it's used to help illustrate a point. But the second way it's used is so that you won't have to spend too much time looking at the person who's talking. I don't blame them for wanting to cut AWAY from the person talking. I totally understand their desperation to show imagery rather than talking heads. But over the last few years, I've noticed "them" taking more and more liberties with the images they use. "What do we cut to now?" "I don't know. Just find another cheering crowd shot". "I have this baseball stadium thing from the World Series but..." "Fine! Use it. Nobody'll know the difference". To be honest, that wasn't a complaint I had about last night's Jazz episode. Often you see one of these historical things and you get the strong sense that someone sold them a bunch of archival footage and they decided to do a documentary using that footage. In other words, they put the cart before the horse. I don't think that was true of Jazz. "Jazz" has the opposite problem. There's A LOT of relevant imagery that they could have used. But then they would have had to tell other parts of the story. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) on-line tiki cartoon Date: 09 Jan 2001 14:46:42 -0500 http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/wpt/anchor.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Library Music Date: 09 Jan 2001 13:03:55 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:49:33 GMT >From: pinwhiz@pop.ihug.co.nz >Subject: (exotica) 1950s Library Music? > >A local 2nd Hand Dealer here in Auckland, New Zealand has for sale part of >the Inhouse Production Music Library that used to belong to the New Zealand >Radio Broadcasting Corporation (Our equivilent of BBC Radio) The best British music library was KPM. The best music is the stuff described as "Light Activity". Look for titles like "Shopping Day" "Gay Activity" "Merry As A Grig" and "Funny Little Man". These are really good "Leave It To Beaver" cues. Composers to look for are K. Palmer, J. Beaver, and L. Johnson. Also keep your eyes open for cues composed by Jack Shaindlin, George Hormel and the team of Seeley/Loose. These are the tunes used in a million Hanna Barbera, Gumby and Bozo cartoons. The song "Puffin Billy" would be worth a heck of a lot at ebay, if that's in there. That was the theme to Captain Kangaroo. Another good area is the Suspense/Drama cues. Look for titles like "Graveyard" "Voodoo Victim" "Finger of Fear" and "Mists of Illusion". Composers to look for would be V. Phillips, K. Graham and the ones listed above. I would avoid the pseudo "Rock n Roll" and "Jazz" most of it really sucks. Hope this helps... See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Ukelele Date: 09 Jan 2001 13:03:56 -0800 >Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 22:55:13 -0800 >From: Otto >Subject: (exotica) ukulele player wanted > >I'm looking for a ukulele player for a regular gig in the Los Angeles area >possibly starting in March or May The best Uke player I know of is Will Ryan. He is a real pro and an authority on 20s music (particularly Cliff Edwards) Contact me off list and I will give you his number. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Ken Burns's's Jazz Date: 08 Jan 2001 14:13:18 -0500 >But I still don't know why the guy who got to tell the story was a guy who >had no interest or passion for the subject. >Figures. Oh, it does (and thanks for the props). However, you should know, having produced a film yourself... ...Thaaaa-a-at's Showbiz! Very little surprises me in this regard since this day: My brother is eight years older than me and very inquisitive. He had been reading things like Jacob Bronowski's "The Ascent of Man" and various books by Carl Sagan. Now I don't believe these two fellows to be the pinnacle of modern knowledge, but I do rate them above, say, a roommate that dresses too sexy. So, where did I see Sagan, before I ever saw him on the "Cosmos" series? The Mike Douglas Show. Now, old Big Band singers can book who they want and Sagan could accept or decline bookings and Sagan wished to plug his latest book, "The Dragons of Eden", but the nadir of this Jimi Hendrix-opens-for-the-Monkees experience is when Douglas asked Sagan, "Why is the sky blue?" Sagan essentially called Douglas a caveman. At least it wasn't on for 17 hours. Since then, very little surprises me as to who gets booked doing what. Burns is essentially the PBS' five-hundred pound gorilla now. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ken Burns Jazz (hey, it's a sentence!) Date: 09 Jan 2001 17:14:47 -0500 >>To have 19 hours of running time and still slice 'n' dice the music like an >>"A&E Biography" is inexcusable. > >...and with no attribution, either. I heard Johnny Dunn's "Bugle Call >Rag", which I like, but it started after the intro (which is my favorite >bit) and cut off well before the end. Thus the music that is the subject >of the documentary serves as less than soundtrack; it becomes background. It's only one episode, but it doesn't look good for the actual music content. I'm not sure if anything played through at full-length (sure didn't feel like it), but even if it did, I don't think anything played much more than 5 seconds without someone talking over top of it. I think "Jazz Talk" would be a more accurate title than "Jazz". It also struck me that they didn't do a very good job of explaining the most basic nuts & bolts of jazz. About the only thing in that line was WM saying something about a syncopation on the 4, and then he proceeds to do some scat that syncopates all over the place -- not much clarity there. If I were Joe Lunchbucket out there watching from my Lazyboy, my impression would be that "they just make jazz up, and going 'skiddlydoopadoobydoodoo' is real important somehow." I got a better basics explanation in my white suburban junior high school. >PBS airs the multipart "Rock and Roll" >documentary, not a titter from either list I belong to, but this series, wow! Maybe because rock people are so used to TV "getting it wrong" it was just water off a duck. But massive TV attention is not so common for jazz? Just a theory. >Here is a great site about a great book (Jazz >Styles by Marck C. Gridley) that decidedly does NOT stop at the >sixties: http://cw.prenhall.com/bookbind/pubbooks/gridley/ Or Joachim Berendt's "The Jazz Book". Don't know how it ranks today in the hierarchy of jazz books, but it used to be a standard. >completely irrelevant footage used to >illustrate segments for which there is no real footage (including using >footage from completely different eras). My "favorite" in that category was when they were talking about early player Buddy Bolden, and the photo of a club crowd includes men in mid-20th century suits. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: (exotica) you might want to keep an eye out for these records... Date: 10 Jan 2001 00:42:57 -0000 you can't beat inflated eBay prices. thought if any exotica members out there had these they might want to know the going rates. they sure do look fine, but they're wayyyy outside my pocketbook. maybe if i try extra hard with the garage sales this summer... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=513603927&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=976087898&indexURL=0&rd=1 > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1401486832&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=978973114&indexURL=0&rd=1 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: Re: (exotica) you might want to keep an eye out for these Date: 09 Jan 2001 20:50:23 -0500 Holy shit! Will At 12:42 AM 10/01/01 +0000, james brouwer wrote: >you can't beat inflated eBay prices. thought if any exotica members >out there had these they might want to know the going rates. they >sure do look fine, but they're wayyyy outside my pocketbook. maybe >if i try extra hard with the garage sales this summer... Will Straw, Associate Professor and Acting Chair, Department of Art History and Communications Studies McGill University 853 Sherbrooke Street W. Montreal, QC H3A 2T6 Canada Phone: (514) 398 7667 Fax: (514) 398 7247 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) you might want to keep an eye out for these Date: 09 Jan 2001 21:58:01 -0500 At 12:42 AM 1/10/01 -0000, james brouwer wrote: >you can't beat inflated eBay prices. What a coincidence. I am in ebay withdrawal. Today I sent in what I hope will be my last three money orders. Okay maybe I will bid again. But not like I've been doing. The most money I've ever paid for a record, the second most, the third most, the fourth most -------- all the way to the twentieth most money I've ever paid for a record, have all happened in the last three months and they've all happened at ebay. I don't mind it so much when I pick up a cool record, especially when it's something I didn't even know was cool. Like the soundtrack to "The Grasshopper" which I only picked up because it said it had a Brooklyn Bridge song. Or the soundtrack to "In Cold Blood" which I thought might have a bit of "crime jazz" on it and it kind of does. But I've been buying "normal" records just because they look interesting and they're only seven dollars. But that seven dollars is really like twenty dollars when you pay for postage and exchange. And twenty dollars for a Buddy Rich record I didn't even like is a giant waste of money. Anyway I'm about to start SELLING records on ebay. I've sold about a thousand records for a buck or two each - at the most - but I kept a couple of hundred hoping they might get twenty bucks. But those records you pointed out. FIVE HUNDRED BUCKS for a record? There's a difference, as I understand it, between a rare record and a hard-to-find record. I can't believe that Bernard Purdie blaxploitation record is truly a rare record in the sense that it's an investment. It's probably a cool record that a lot of DJ's want but it's not like an Elvis Sun 78 that people collect and pay big bucks for. Or maybe I'm wrong. But still, that does blow my mind. (God, I know I don't believe in you but can you stop me from buying records on ebay?) AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) you might want to keep an eye out for these records... Date: 10 Jan 2001 11:27:33 +0100 Ha ha, http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1401486832&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=978973114&indexURL=0&rd=1 this is so funny: the description text is stating: "this album is on the small German label BASF". BASF? Badische Anilyn- und Soda Fabriken, a multi-national corporation. Myths! Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) you might want to keep an eye out for these records... Date: 10 Jan 2001 11:50:49 +0100 james brouwer schrieb: > you can't beat inflated eBay prices. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=513603927&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=976087898&indexURL=0&rd=1 535.-$$, the buyer is from Japan. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) New/Old Stuff on vinyl...... Date: 10 Jan 2001 08:35:49 -0500 Okay, I know about Dawn of the Dead, but how's about the other one??...... Goblin's "Dawn Of The Dead" 1979 score! 1 extra track! John Barry's "Game Of Death" 1978 score to the Bruce Lee film! Reviews please? - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obit] James Carr, Isaac Guillory Date: 10 Jan 2001 09:54:17 -0500 January 10, 2001 James Carr, Soul Singer Whose Life Reflected the Blues, Dies at 58 By JON PARELES James Carr, a singer whose 1966 recording of "(At the) Dark End of the Street" was a masterpiece of Memphis soul, died on Sunday in Memphis. He was 58 and lived in Memphis. The cause was cancer, said his friend and producer Quinton Claunch. With a robust baritone that embraced both amber-toned purity and desperate growls, Mr. Carr could turn an unhappy love song into three minutes of heartsick drama. But a combination of bad breaks and psychiatric problems limited his career. "He had a hard life," Mr. Claunch said. "He felt the blues, man, that's for sure." Mr. Carr was born in Clarksdale, Miss., in 1942 and grew up in Memphis. The son of a minister, he began performing with gospel groups when he was 9. He married when he was a teenager and had children, working as a day laborer while he sang in local gospel groups, including the Southern Wonders Juniors and the Harmony Echoes. He never learned to read or write. In the early 1960's Mr. Carr started singing soul music. He was turned down by the fledgling Stax Records, which sent him to Mr. Claunch's label, Goldwax. Mr. Carr made his first single, "The Word Is Out," in 1964, and in 1966 he made his two best-selling singles: "You've Got My Mind Messed Up" and "(At the) Dark End of the Street," both Top 10 rhythm- and-blues hits. His was the first recording of "Dark End of the Street," written by Chips Moman and Dan Penn and later performed by Aretha Franklin, Linda Ronstadt and many other singers. Mr. Carr made a triumphant 1966 appearance at the Apollo Theater in Harlem and toured the South and East. He continued to record for Goldwax through the 1960's, putting out songs like "Pouring Water on a Drowning Man," "I'm a Fool for You," "Forgetting You" and "A Man Needs a Woman." But Mr. Carr was a manic-depressive and could not sustain a career on the soul-music circuit. He grew moody and withdrawn. Mr. Claunch recalled him sitting at a recording session, not saying a word for hours, then singing one song. In 1970 Mr. Carr recorded four songs for Atlantic Records; two were released as a single in 1971. For the rest of his life, while he lived with his sister Rose, he made occasional efforts to tour or record. He released a single in 1977 and toured Japan in 1979. In 1992 Mr. Carr played his first New York engagement in 25 years at Tramps. He was also in and out of psychiatric hospitals, sometimes every few weeks. "His first priority was a marijuana cigarette, a drink or a woman," Mr. Claunch said. "That would take precedence over his music. But he loved to sing." Mr. Carr made albums with Mr. Claunch in 1991 ("Take Me to the Limit" on Goldwax) and 1994 ("Soul Survivor" on Soul Trax). A compilation of 13 songs from those albums and 7 other songs is to be released on the Soul Trax label in the next few weeks, Mr. Claunch said. "The Essential James Carr," a collection of his recordings from 1964 to 1969, was released in 1995 by Razor and Tie Records. Mr. Carr is survived by three sisters, a brother and five children. http://www.retroactive.com/jan97/carr.html http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=B3845 ==== http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=B18062 http://www.google.com/search?q=isaac+guillory ISAAC GUILLORY, 52, FORMERLY OF CRYAN' SHAMES By Rummana Hussain Tribune Staff Writer January 5, 2001 Isaac Guillory was a different kind of rock star. As a member of Chicago's Cryan' Shames, he released two albums on a major record label and mingled with such pop culture royalty as Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin and Jefferson Airplane. Yet, while he fit in as the quintessential hip musician, Mr. Guillory's quirky style, classical background and cerebral wit set him apart from his colleagues, friends said. "He had this dashing, mysterious, continental thinker flare about him. You knew he was going to end up in some foreign country," said fellow band member Jim Pilster. Mr. Guillory, 52, died Sunday, Dec. 31, of cancer at his home in Wallsend, England. Mr. Guillory played guitar, bass and keyboards and wrote numerous songs on "A Scratch in the Sky" and "Synthesis," two of the three Cryan' Shames albums that were released by Columbia in the late 1960s and early 1970s. During the band's heyday, Mr. Guillory penned such distinctive songs as "In the Cafe," which veered away from such typical pop fare as his group's hit "It Could be We're in Love." "This whole song ["In the Cafe"] was done in French and it had mandolins and squeeze box," Pilster said, recalling his bandmate's originality. Mr. Guillory moved to England in the late 1970s because he believed European audiences were more suited to his type of music, which was a hybrid of folk and classical. He released six solo albums in Europe and continued touring and teaching guitar until his death. The son of a U.S. Navy chief petty officer and a prominent Cuban flamenco guitarist, Mr. Guillory was exposed to music from his birth on the Guantanamo Naval base in Cuba. He began studying classical piano at the age of 6 at the Conservatory of Music in Havana and learned guitar from his mother, Victoria. As he grew up and moved to Florida, Mr. Guillory began experimenting with the saxophone and cello. Mr. Guillory moved to Evanston with his mother and sister in 1965. He studied guitar at the Chicago School of Music and taught at the Skokie Music Centre before taking courses at Wright College. When in college, he joined the band The Ravelles. In 1966, he was invited to join the Cryan' Shames, who already had one hit album, "Sugar and Spice." In addition to his mother, Mr. Guillory is also survived by his wife, Victoria; four children, Jacob, Ellie, Sienna and Jace; and his sister, Claire. Funeral services were held in England. Pilster said surviving Cryan' Shames members are planning a memorial for Mr. Guillory in the near future. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) New/Old Stuff on vinyl...... Date: 10 Jan 2001 07:14:02 -0800



>John Barry's "Game Of Death" 1978 score to the Bruce Lee film!
 
Picked this one up today, its pretty good, not as good as Enter the Dragon, but not bad, some interesting things, a little bit on the stringy side, but all John Barry. One track with all Kung Fu fighting sounds
 
UH!! HOOOOYAAAAH!!  Whack WHaCK Whack!!
 
not essential unless you are a big fan of Bruce Lee Soundtracks. On the Tam label out of Japan, got mine for $13, thats about the going price for it, there is another New/Old Bruce Lee OST on the Tam label, but Im not sure of the title, as I remember it had a Chinese composer.
 
which Bruce Lee soundtrack did Peter Thomas score? Id love to have that one. Anyone Know??
 
-jonny

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# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: Re: (exotica) you might want to keep an eye out for these records... Date: 10 Jan 2001 15:20:54 -0000 Alan wrote: >Anyway I'm about to start SELLING records on ebay. I've sold about a >thousand records for a buck or two each - at the most - but I kept a couple >of hundred hoping they might get twenty bucks. >(God, I know I don't believe in you but can you stop me from buying records >on ebay?) I find it pretty addictive too. And we're Canadian, so it practically costs twice as much for us. I STRONGLY recommend the selling thang. I make it a rule (now) to only spend $$ on eBay according to the $$ I've brought in selling on eBay. I even have a separate bank account for it so it's very simple to keep track of. I've been surprised at how much people are willing to spend on a record I just threw on eBay for the off chance it was worth something. I'll NEVER be bringing my half-decent records into a record store to sell ever again. When I think of the stuff i let go for next to nothing 'cause there was no ebay, well it'd make ya cry. I now have a closet full of collectable paperbacks, books, photographs, posters, and records to throw on ebay. i just gotta find the time to do it. so the rule: the best way to ebay is to sell as well as buy, especially if you're dealing in canuck bucks. jb _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil Ford Subject: Re: (exotica) New/Old Stuff on vinyl...... Date: 10 Jan 2001 11:40:52 +0100 > > Picked this one up today, its pretty good, not as good as Enter the > Dragon, but not bad, some interesting things, a little bit on the > stringy side, but all John Barry. One track with all Kung Fu fighting > sounds UH!! HOOOOYAAAAH!! Whack WHaCK Whack!! not essential unless > you are a big fan of Bruce Lee Soundtracks. On the Tam label out of > Japan, got mine for $13, thats about the going price for it, there is > another New/Old Bruce Lee OST on the Tam label, but Im not sure of the > title, as I remember it had a Chinese composer. which Bruce Lee > soundtrack did Peter Thomas score? Id love to have that one. Anyone > Know?? -jonny On roughly the same subject (soundtracks for martial-arts movies), but on a slight tangent, has anyone seen "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" yet? It has a cool original score by Tan Dun that reminded me a bit of Toru Takemitsu's music for Ran -- "exotic" (Chinese, in this case) elements placed in a Western new-music/film-music context. The all-percussion music that accompanies the first fight scene is unreal. Could have done without the Coco Lee song in the closing credits, though. As for the movie itself, my god . . . Phil Ford # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Linds" Subject: (exotica) Food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 09:46:00 -0800 Hi everyone! You've been a real help to me when I'm putting together segments for the segment I do on CBC here in Canada. The topic is "laughing" records this Sat.Next month the topic is "food" related songs and spoken word entrees. Any ideas? Brian Linds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 12:55:21 -0500 Man, there's a great rawk song on either Vol. 1 or 2 of Las Vegas Grind = called something like "Mo Taters" or something like that that's a lot of = fun.=20 - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nicola Battista (Dj Batman)" Subject: Re: (exotica) Food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 18:55:18 +0100 >Hi everyone! You've been a real help to me when I'm putting together >segments for the segment I do on CBC here in Canada. The topic is "laughing" >records this Sat.Next month the topic is "food" related songs and spoken >word entrees. >Any ideas? not-so-exotic stuff but as for laughing my friend Luigi Restuccia has an electronic track called Smiling Death with his own weird laugh sampled through the latest part especially (http://www.mp3.com/restuccia). As for food one of the best thing I can think of is "Don't take five" by the Jams aka the KLF (they mention stealing apples, oranges, mangos etc. and destroy Brubeck's "Take Five" at the same time). It should be somewhere in the 'net (look for the Justified ancients of mu mu or the Jams on Listen.com). I can't think of anything else (maybe if you can consider as a food song an instrumental about italian drinks then "Aperitivo" on the Aperitivo compilation - http.//www.mp3.com/aperitivo - and sorry for the gratuitous plug would also fit). p.s. sorry for disappearing from the list. I'm sooooo busy... I'm also late with the Aperitivo and Flabby mp3's, anyway if you have a my.mp3.com account (if you don't have one yet why don't sign for one now??) they have just inserted Alessandroni's album in a promotion. You can download it for free (the entire disc!) until the 30th of january as a "net cd promotion". talk to you soon - hope you all are having a happy new year :) Nicola (Dj Batman) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 13:08:49 -0500 Geez, lets see. Outside of exotica included are... I Want Candy - Bow Wow Wow Coconut Woman -- Forget the Artist, it on the Phonomolies comp in the exotica ring Peaches - The Presidents of the Unites States of America I know there are more...lemme think a little. =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA= =B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=20 Charlieman=20 "Everything that can be invented, has been invented." =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 - Charles H. Duell, 1899=A0 =A0=20 =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: Re: (exotica) Food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 10:14:59 -0800 (PST) >Next month the topic is "food" related songs and spoken word entrees. > >Any ideas? Well good 'ol Louie Prima. Angelina and the Banana split song com to mind. Lambert, Hendricks and Ross have got a few good food songs too. Domenic -->Host Your Site For Just $9.95 @ http://www.buzzlink.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) throw another "Jazz" review on the fire Date: 10 Jan 2001 13:20:11 -0500 Hey, how did Lester Bowie sneak in there last night? Has he recanted the AACM and signed a Marsalis loyalty oath or something? It was no better on the talking-over-the-music front last night. There at one point, they had live sound film of their official saint, Louis Armstrong, performing. Did they let it play? Nah. More talking over top. More cutting to talking heads. And I'm realizing that the structure is awfully scattered. It's like some short attention spanned toddler roving from toy to toy. Here's another, really bruising, review: http://www.observer.com/pages/music.asp It documents some of the insults thrown at the avant garde in later episodes. They'll be dissing Cecil Taylor and Miles Davis big time. Screw it. I think I'll bail out now and avoid the aggravation. "Junkyard Wars" (aka "Scrapheap Challenge") is on tonight anyway. I'm going to try to make this my last post on "Jazz". All this negativity can't be healthy. But the rest of you carry on... it's most enjoyable. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nicola Battista (Dj Batman)" Subject: Re: (exotica) Food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 19:17:09 +0100 >Well good 'ol Louie Prima. Angelina and the Banana split song com to mind. silly me, there's also that stupid "La Banana (el unico fruto del amor)" by Ben sa Tumba et son Orchestre... DjB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TempoBlock@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Raymond Scott feature Date: 10 Jan 2001 13:33:54 EST Darrell Brogdon wrote: > there's a GREAT article about Raymond Scott in the December > issue of Electronic Musician, written by Jeff Winner and ... "m.ace" writes:. >... Good article indeed! Brian Phillips wrote: >... got a chance to read some of it. It's great stuff! YES, it's now ONLINE here: http://RaymondScott.com/em.html (The EM site screwed-up the sidebars and such...) . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) you might want to keep an eye out for theserecords... Date: 10 Jan 2001 19:36:22 +0100 rah rah rah... you know what a *collector* is, don't you? a collector is a Japanese guy, who collects *ALL*(!!!) records of a certain genre. These guys are mad. I've seen a documentary once... alan zweig schrieb: > FIVE HUNDRED BUCKS for a record? > > It's probably a cool record that a lot of DJ's want but it's not like an > Elvis Sun 78 that people collect and pay big bucks for. > Or maybe I'm wrong. yes. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 13:43:37 EST I believe there's a series of compilation LPs/CDs called "Exotic Diner" that, if I remember correctly (and shame on me if I'm not) have many a food-"related" tune on them. (if you feel especially daring, there's always Hasil Adkin's "No More Hot Dogs"....) -DavidH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 10:48:40 -0800 (PST) Frank Sinatra: The Coffee Song Red Saunders: Hambone Andre Williams: The Greasy Chicken Alvis Wayne: I Wanna Eat Your Puddin' Billy Davis: Spunky Onions Booker T & The MGs: Green Onions Captain Beefheart: Tropical Hotdog Night Glen Glenn: One Cup of Coffee Hasil Adkins: No More Hotdogs Deadbolt: The Meat Ken Nordine: Hunger is from Dick Dale: Taco Wagon Hank Williams & His Drifting Cowboys: Jambalaya Serge & Charlotte Gainsbourg: Un zeste de citron (pas a chacun gout, peut-etre) Screamin' Jay Hawkins: The Lollipop Song (dee-licious!) The Seeds: Chocolate River Southern Culture on the Skids: Six Piece Bucket (not sure how many pieces, exactly: from Dirt Track Date) From The Beverly Hillbillies ST: What's for Dinner Granny Robert Williams & The Groovers: Cranberry Blues --- Brian Linds wrote: > > Hi everyone! You've been a real help to me when I'm > putting together > segments for the segment I do on CBC here in Canada. > The topic is "laughing" > records this Sat.Next month the topic is "food" > related songs and spoken > word entrees. > Any ideas? > Brian Linds ===== "But I revolted; esteeming it apt and proper rabidly to inveigh against these heterodoxies...". - Fr. Rolfe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lenkei, Bruce" Subject: RE: (exotica) Food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 13:58:27 -0500 Off the top of my head.... There's also the pretty cool Lawrence Welk song, "Apples and Bananas" Bert Kaempfert - "Midnight Snack" Quincy Jones - "Hot Sake" - bruce # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 11:11:42 -0800 (PST) Oh, nearly forgot The Coasters': I'm a Hog for Your Love ("This little piggy likes pizza, this little piggy digs potato chips, but this little piggy's comin' over house to nibble on your sweet lips." Surfaris and The Groupies have great versions as well). buono appetito, y'all ===== "But I revolted; esteeming it apt and proper rabidly to inveigh against these heterodoxies...". - Fr. Rolfe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 14:35:41 -0500 Southern Culture on the Skids: Six Piece Bucket (not sure how many pieces, exactly: from Dirt Track Date) Actually forgot about this one. It's called "Ten Piece Box"\ =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA= =B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=20 Charlieman=20 "Everything that can be invented, has been invented." =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 - Charles H. Duell, 1899=A0 =A0=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: (exotica) Food Songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 14:37:16 -0500 Also, I think it was Little Feat that did 'Rad Gumbo'...It was a pretty = big song about 10 years back. =20 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA= =B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=20 Charlieman=20 "Everything that can be invented, has been invented." - Charles H. Duell, 1899=20 =20 =20 =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) throw another "Jazz" review on the fire Date: 10 Jan 2001 15:05:17 -0500 At 01:20 PM 1/10/01 -0500, m.ace wrote: >I'm going to try to make this my last post on "Jazz". All this negativity >can't be healthy. But the rest of you carry on... it's most enjoyable. Yeah I made the same resolution. You know, I believe them when they say Louis Armstrong was a genius and that he helped coalesce all the ideas about jazz that came before him, that he pointed the way to the future of jazz. I believe them because everyone says it and there doesn't seem to be much dispute even among people who agree on little else. I believe them but I wish a series that takes as much time as this one, had taken the time to demonstrate some of this to me. There was that section where Wynton was going "Louis Armstrong invented fire. Louis Armstrong invented the wheel. Louis Armstrong breathed the breath of life into each and every one of us and we would all be dead if he hadn't lived..." How are you supposed to respond to that? Okay last point. I'm not a particular fan of Paul Whiteman. In fact I really don't like any jazz from before the late forties but that's another issue. Anyway I'm not going to defend Paul Whiteman but his "idea" to create out of jazz, a classical-style music - without improvisation - is not really such a leap from what jazz is or what jazz became. They sort of made it seem like this was such a "white man's" response to jazz. To remove all the improvisation and write it down. "Jazz people" - and this documentary too - always want it both ways. Jazz is all improvised but Duke Ellington is the greatest composer who ever lived. (I'm sure some of you are thinking of the great BJ controversy from a year or so ago on this list.) I don't think you CAN resolve the two ideas. They're just part of the enigma of jazz. It's improvised and it's not. (And when you've listened to as much jazz as I have, you start to question how totally improvised the solos are MUCH of the time. But that's another issue.) It just bothered me that when they wanted to put a guy down for trying to put jazz down on paper (Whiteman) they did but when they wanted to elevate a guy for putting it down on paper (Ellington) they did that too. I'm not saying Whiteman was as important as Ellington. I'm just saying I wish they didn't have such a clear agenda. The story of jazz isn't that clear. No story of art can be that clear. That's it. I will now suffer in silence for the rest of the week. You don't think I can? I do this for YOU. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: (exotica) Re: jazz Date: 10 Jan 2001 14:26:36 -0600 Bro Cleve wrote: >actually, Jelly Roll has the opposite meaning in jazz slang. Think about a >jelly roll donut for a minute and you'll figure it out. One of Bessie Smith's hits was Jellyroll Blues. Lookin' forward to seeing how Burns and co. treat the Empress of the Blues. Nobody in Town Can Make a Sweet Jellyroll Like Mine In a bakery shop today I heard Miss Minnie Jenkins say She had the best cake, you see And they was fresh as fresh can be And as the people fjggflkjzl zcjglkj You would hear Miss Minnie cry... Nobody in town Can make a sweet jellyroll like mine Oh like mine No other in town Can bake a sweet jellyroll so fine So fine It's the best in town The boys tell me so It's fresh every day You can hear 'em all say Don't need no ask ddzglk Just try it once you'll be back Somebody told me I make the best jellyroll in town I say in town You must admit that I'm a jellyroll bakin' hound Bakin' hound Fresh jellyroll, jelly roll Is so hard to find You always get the other kind Nobody in town Can make a sweet jellyroll like mine # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) ebay item Date: 10 Jan 2001 21:11:54 +0100 a Hardrock Cafe tiki pin??? http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=537727893 -Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Penna Subject: Re: (exotica) 1950s Library Music? Date: 10 Jan 2001 12:17:16 -0800 Steve Worth has observed: >The song "Puffin Billy" would be worth a heck of a lot at ebay, if >that's in there. That was the theme to Captain Kangaroo. A wonderful stereo recording of "Puffin' Billy" by Edward White (1910-1994) is on Marco Polo 8.223522, part of their "British Light Music" series. This recording is also on the lower-priced Naxos 8.553515, a sampler from the series entitled "Elizabethan Serenade." The latter is chock-full of familiar melodies, many of which were used as UK television signature tunes. "Puffin' Billy," while not written specifically for that purpose, was used for a BBC Sat AM kid's show, "Children's Favourites." The liner notes don't mention Captain Kangaroo, so I don't know which use came first. "Puffin' Billy" the character, BTW, was a little railroad steam engine. Another gem in the Marco Polo series is the disc devoted to Robert Farnon, whose "Gateway to the West" will probably be familiar to many as one of those "what the heck is the name of that thing" tunes, and to old NET (now PBS) viewers of the 1960s as the theme to David Susskind's talk show. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) throw another "Jazz" review on the fire Date: 10 Jan 2001 12:31:43 -0800 (PST) That Wynton Marsalis appears to be a wonderful musician and a sweet man, but is not much of a philosopher. Levity. Amen. > There was that section where Wynton was going "Louis > Armstrong invented fire. Louis Armstrong invented the wheel. Louis Armstrong breathed the breath of life into each and every one of us and we would all be dead if he > hadn't lived..." > How are you supposed to respond to that? ===== Extending its immense shadow Over the world and Paris, What is this gray-eyed presence Which emerges in silence? - R. Desnos __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 14:37:58 -0600 How 'bout "Poke Salad Annie" by Elvis. Some other singer did it too...Bobby Jo White or Billy Jo something... colleenintexas Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 12:47:39 -0800 (PST) I almost listed that one... not too much about food in it: but E is the poster boy for food (etc), and lots of it (he loved those fluffer-nutters). He did that neat tune about rattling the pots and pans in the kitchen. Potwalloping Brillat-Savarin. --- Colleen Pyles wrote: > > How 'bout "Poke Salad Annie" by Elvis. Some other > singer did it > too...Bobby Jo White or Billy Jo something... > > colleenintexas ===== Extending its immense shadow Over the world and Paris, What is this gray-eyed presence Which emerges in silence? - R. Desnos __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 15:51:56 -0500 Brother Jack McDuff - "Hot Barbecue" Herbie Hancock - "Watermelon Man" Les McCann - "Bucket O' Grease" Julie London - "Hot Toddy" various artists - "Canteloupe Island" m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: RE: (exotica) food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 14:54:58 -0600 Slim Gaillard had a couple of food tunes: "Potato Chips" and "Yep Roc Heresy" (the lyrics for the last one allegedly came from the list of items on the menu of an ethnic [Lebanese?] restaurant). Oh and there's "Boardinghouse Pie" by NRBQ (vocals by Captain Lou Albano). -Indy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Al Hoff Subject: Re: (exotica) food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 15:40:43 -0500 > must add my favoite -- "Fried Potatoes" by Maddox Bros. & Rose, on their On the Radio CD. al -- Al Hoff Email: naturboy@telerama.lm.com Web: http://www.girlreporter.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: (exotica) RE: Laughing songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 15:04:56 -0600 > Hi everyone! You've been a real help to me when I'm putting together > segments for the segment I do on CBC here in Canada. The topic is > "laughing" > records this Sat. Are you still looking for laughing tunes? One is by the Bonzo Dog Band - I think it's called "Slush" -Indy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kirsten Noel Whitley Subject: Re: (exotica) Food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 15:13:10 -0600 (CST) Hi everyone in exotica land, How about: Banana Split -- Louis Prima Beans and Corn Bread -- Louis Jordan Caviar and Chitlins -- ?? Chicken Shack -- LeRoy van Dyke Chittlin' Ball -- King Porter Orchestra Cocoanut Woman -- Eloise Trio Dig This Menu Please -- Red Rodney Everybody Eats When They Come To My House -- Cab Calloway Farmer's Market -- Lambert, Hendricks & Ross Fried Potatoes -- Rose Maddox Frim Fram Sauce -- King Cole Trio I Like Molasses -- ?? (oldish country song) I Love My Fruit -- Sweet Violet Boys Ito Eats -- Elvis Jambalaya -- Hank Williams, Sr. Knock Me a Kiss -- Louis Jordan One Finger, Two Finger, Three Finger Poi -- Augie Goupil Peel Me a Grape -- Anita O'Day Porkchops and Mustard Greens -- Ernie Andrews w/ the Maxwell Davis Orchestra Potato Chips -- Slim Gaillard Yip Roc Heresy -- Slim Gaillard Roly Poly -- Bob Wills Solid Potato Salad -- Ella Mae Morse Take a Cold Tater and Wait -- Little Jimmy Dickens That's What I Like about the South -- Phil Harris What's Cookin' -- Deke Dickerson Were's My Gravy -- Steve Lucky and the Rhumba Bums You're My Dish -- Fats Waller ? Constipation Blues Screamin' Jay Hawkins Brian, please post your playlists for both shows (food and laughing). --Kirsten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J o h n Subject: Re: (exotica) food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 13:17:02 -0800 (PST) Probably pretty obvious, but didn't Cibbo Mato's first album have a lot of songs about food? --JC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Laughing songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 13:17:05 -0800 (PST) If so, There's also a Ken Nordine bit where some pathetic slob is telling his woes to some boozy drazel who's laughing hysterically throughout his monolog. I think it's on one of the 1st 2 Word jazz lps. Link Wray: The Shadow Knows (Lots of menacing chuckles) Robert Gordon: Too Fast to Live (snide laughter throughout) Jimmy Bryant: Laughing Guitar I have a 50s r&r instrumental somewhere which is accompanied by gut-busting laughter throughout... but the name eludes. --- Indy Rutks wrote: > > Are you still looking for laughing tunes? ===== Extending its immense shadow Over the world and Paris, What is this gray-eyed presence Which emerges in silence? - R. Desnos __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Laughing songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 13:18:04 -0800 (PST) If so, There's also a Ken Nordine bit where some pathetic slob is telling his woes to some boozy drazel who's laughing hysterically throughout his monolog. I think it's on one of the 1st 2 Word jazz lps. Link Wray: The Shadow Knows (Lots of menacing chuckles) Robert Gordon: Too Fast to Live (snide laughter throughout) Jimmy Bryant: Laughing Guitar I have a 50s r&r instrumental somewhere which is accompanied by gut-busting laughter throughout... but the name eludes. --- Indy Rutks wrote: > > Are you still looking for laughing tunes? ===== Extending its immense shadow Over the world and Paris, What is this gray-eyed presence Which emerges in silence? - R. Desnos __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) Food songs Date: 11 Jan 2001 08:25:58 +1100 on 11/1/01 4:46 AM, Brian Linds at woodlind@island.net wrote: > Hi everyone! You've been a real help to me when I'm putting together > segments for the segment I do on CBC here in Canada. The topic is "laughing" > records this Sat.Next month the topic is "food" related songs and spoken > word entrees. I've benn tossing around "Food Songs" for a comp I'll do oneday - off the top of my head... "Memphis Soul Stew" by King Curtis "Breakin' Bread" by Fred and the new JB's "Fried Neckbones and some Home Fries" by Willie Bobo Everything on the Blue Note "Cordon Bleu" colection (instrumentals) "Mo' Onions", "Jellybread", "Red Beans and Rice" all Booker T. & The MG's Philip -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) food sonngs Date: 10 Jan 2001 15:39:34 -0600 Yeah, but it's gotta good beat and you can dance to it... Poke Salad Annie...Gator's got your granny...hey, this is a food song for gators! colleen in texas Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) elvis and food Date: 10 Jan 2001 13:47:58 -0800 (PST) This is a disturbing story: when I was a young'n, we used to visit my grandma who, prosaically, lived in the country. She made poke salad. All the time. It is my current understanding that this stuff comes from those ink-berry mesozoic looking weeds that pave the American south in the summer and which, if prepared incorrectly, can be poisonous. Sort of like a down-home version of the Japanese pufferfish. There should be more songs linking food and that great eater, Elvis - like "There's a fellow down the chip shop (?) who swears he's Elvis," by (christ, she just passed on... can't recall her name). --- Colleen Pyles wrote: > Yeah, but it's gotta good beat and you can dance to > it... > Poke Salad Annie...Gator's got your granny...hey, > this is a food song > for gators! ===== Extending its immense shadow Over the world and Paris, What is this gray-eyed presence Which emerges in silence? - R. Desnos __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) ebay item Date: 10 Jan 2001 18:39:50 EST In a message dated 1/10/1 3:10:15 PM, moritz@derplan.com wrote: >a Hardrock Cafe tiki pin the NEW definition of oxymoron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 18:41:11 EST In a message dated 1/10/1 3:36:57 PM, colleen7@ireland.com wrote: >How 'bout "Poke Salad Annie" by Elvis. Some other singer did it >too...Bobby Jo White or Billy Jo something... Tony Joe White...J Joe B # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bump Subject: Re: (exotica) food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 18:56:38 -0500 >>How 'bout "Poke Salad Annie" by Elvis. Some other singer did it >>too...Bobby Jo White or Billy Jo something... yeah Tony Joe White...he also covers Little Green Apples! and there is Potato Chips-Shadows of Knight She's All That (and a bag of Potato Chips) - Andre Williams (another andre tune is Bacon Fat-that is also covered by Frank Zappa) would Soul Sauce count?-Cal Tjader crabcakes-gunga din white jam-capt. beefheart peanut butter-marathons popcorn-hot butter fish heads-barnes and barnes and a bunch from pebbles 3 suzy creamcheese-teddy and his patches the reality of (air) fried borsk-the driving stupid horror asparagus stories-the driving stupid soggy cereal-mike condello ****************************************************** ***************************** ************* DJ Bump "Primitive Rhythms for Evolved Minds" Defective Records-Executive Producer bump@defectiverecords.com http://www.defectiverecords.com "Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jane Fondle Subject: (exotica) jazz, agane Date: 10 Jan 2001 16:02:42 -0800 (PST) Does anybody know if in the doc. will be included the unholy genre of, ahem, WEST COAST JAZZ? And where do you stick in Eric Dolphy, or does one just stick it to him...So, we'll expect no 12-minute long Ornette Coleman performance pieces, eh? Food song, "I Like Food", by the Descendents. "Frim Fram Sauce" by Nat Cole et. al. "Banana Split for My Baby", Louis Prima Loving you is easy cuz yer beautiful, Jane Fondle ===== "It's just my nature to do weird stuff." - Les Baxter Buy the debut release from Astroslut: LOVE AT ZERO G at: http://cdalley.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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One Mint Julep Fish (Mr. Scruff) Easy Muffin; Chocolate Lovely (Amon Tobin) (both artists are on Ninja Tune, and Amon Tobin was recorded in Montreal, so they sort of count as Canadian Content) I know there's more - just can't think of them offhand. cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 20:20:52 -0500 Oh, just thought of two more: Tequila Tangerine (Al Hirt) cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: RE: (exotica) Food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 17:34:20 -0800


Ok just to add to the 70 course meal of food songs

Minestrone by Eggs (no really, DC band from the early 90's)

Junk Food Junkie by someone with tha last name Greene

Sukiyaki by???

On Top of Spaghetti...all Covered with Cheese....I lost my poor meatball, when somebody sneezed......

 

buuuuurp!

-jonny


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# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: (exotica) Jazz, Jellyroll and Food from the Empress's Mouth Date: 10 Jan 2001 19:56:41 -0600 Bro Cleve wrote: >actually, Jelly Roll has the opposite meaning in jazz slang. Think about a >jelly roll donut for a minute and you'll figure it out. One of Bessie Smith's hits was a jellyroll blues. Feeling trepidiation about seeing Burns and co. treat the Empress of the Blues tonight. Nobody in Town Can Make a Sweet Jellyroll Like Mine In a bakery shop today I heard Miss Minnie Jenkins say She had the best cake, you see And they was fresh as fresh can be And as the people fjggflkjzl zcjglkj You would hear Miss Minnie cry... Nobody in town Can make a sweet jellyroll like mine Oh like mine No other in town Can bake a sweet jellyroll so fine So fine It's the best in town The boys tell me so It's fresh every day You can hear 'em all say Don't need to ask ddzglk Just try it once you'll be back Somebody told me I make the best jellyroll in town I say in town You must admit that I'm a jellyroll bakin' hound Bakin' hound Fresh jellyroll, jellyroll Is so hard to find You always get the other kind Nobody in town Can make a sweet jellyroll like mine Her tune Kitchen Man is also all about dining. Let me know, Brian, if you want more info. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tikiman Subject: RE: (exotica) Food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 17:56:26 -0800 (PST) for health food freaks, you can't beat the Beach Boys "H.E.L.P. Is On The Way." gotta love a song with lyrics like: "... juicy steaks, sweet things too aren't always good as they seem throwin' up, stomach pumps, enemas too that's what you get when you eat that way" broasted or fried (by the St. Vincent Latinaires), Fluid Floyd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) jazz, agane Date: 10 Jan 2001 22:02:47 -0500 At 04:02 PM 1/10/01 -0800, Jane Fondle wrote: > >Does anybody know if in the doc. will be included the >unholy genre of, ahem, WEST COAST JAZZ? And where do >you stick in Eric Dolphy, or does one just stick it to >him... I heard that Eric Dolphy is completely ignored. I'm assuming that West Coast jazz will get mentioned in the context of Charlie Parker's visit to Los Angeles. Maybe Chet Baker or Art Pepper saw Bird when he played there. Maybe they'll be mentioned in that context. And maybe they'll play that cut where Gerry Mulligan is among the group playing with Billie Holiday, in which case they'll have an opportunity to talk about his association with west coast jazz. I'll be amazed if Dolphy doesn't get mentioned. I read that they put down Cecil Taylor but it's really hard to imagine that they could completely ignore Dolphy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 23:04:35 -0500 > for health food freaks, you can't beat the Beach Boys > "H.E.L.P. Is On The Way." which reminds me of one of my Beach Boys favorites ... 'Vegetables' ... the version I have in mind has them chomping and chewing to the beat. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "william" Subject: (exotica) food Date: 11 Jan 2001 11:45:06 +0800 > > Hi everyone! You've been a real help to me when I'm putting together > segments for the segment I do on CBC here in Canada. The topic is "laughing" > records this Sat.Next month the topic is "food" related songs and spoken > word entrees. > Any ideas? > Brian Linds cibbo matto have a lot of songs about food(some say they only write songs about food) and then there is that laurie anderson piece. i think it's on mr. heartbreak where she talks about being at a funeral but all the people are really thinking about the food in the other room. oh and there should be something from the willy wonka soundtrack or chitty chitty bang bang ost about food. or candy at least. or "filipino box spring hog" or "chocolate jesus" by tom waits. maybe a bit too contemporary for what you are looking for i don't know. william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "william" Subject: (exotica) crouching tiger Date: 11 Jan 2001 11:51:21 +0800 > On roughly the same subject (soundtracks for martial-arts movies), but > on a slight tangent, has anyone seen "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" > yet? It has a cool original score by Tan Dun that reminded me a bit of > Toru Takemitsu's music for Ran -- "exotic" (Chinese, in this case) > elements placed in a Western new-music/film-music context. The > all-percussion music that accompanies the first fight scene is unreal. > Could have done without the Coco Lee song in the closing credits, > though. > > As for the movie itself, my god . . . > > Phil Ford seeing the video of that coco lee song with yo-yo ma made me really question whether i should buy this ost or not. but you are the second person to say this ost is really good(someone on the p5 list put it on there top ten for 2000). sadly i still haven't seen the movie. i couldn't quite figure out if it had english subtitles or not here. but it's out on dvd here as of today or yesterday so i guess i'll be able to see it soon. william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Karasick Subject: Re: (exotica) you might want to keep an eye out for these Date: 10 Jan 2001 23:36:40 -0500 Alan wrote: >But those records you pointed out. FIVE HUNDRED BUCKS for a record? >There's a difference, as I understand it, between a rare record and a >hard-to-find record. I can't believe that Bernard Purdie blaxploitation >record is truly a rare record in the sense that it's an investment. >It's probably a cool record that a lot of DJ's want but it's not like an >Elvis Sun 78 that people collect and pay big bucks for. I've spent many years looking for extremely obscure experimental records, the kind of stuff you just simply never see because they only made a few hundred of them when they were pressed, often handmade at that. Fortunately for me the demand for this kind of stuff was a lot less than say if it were a known commodity so the prices were high but not outrageous. And I'm talking obscure... names like Culturcide, Geile Tiere or Metabolist. If you were lucky you could score something good in used record stores or if you were luckier yet to have been living in the right place when vinyl was more available, you could have bought them at regular new record prices. Anyway A few years ago I gave up on my want list as I realized I was simply not going to find a lot of these things and the possibility of doing so was less likely as time passed. I mean if anyone comes across a copy of The UK new wave "South Specific" Portland Compilation, or the 6x10" set by Jack Goldstein "Planets" on Neutral, or Minus Delta T - The Bangkok Project on AtaTak I'd be happy to hear from you but, I've simply stopped actively looking. CD reissues have made a lot more of this music available without paying collector prices. Of course Napster and the CD burner have also had an influence as well but much less than popular music as you need to find someone that actually has the thing first! To a large degree the same reasoning could apply to obscure exotica except that here the demand is way higher than the supply so you see these outrageous prices. I haven't seen what a copies of rare Nurse with Wound or Whitehouse LPs go for on ebay but my guess is there are not enough collectors out there to get these prices. Now as for Elvis no rational explanation is possible... But as for this particular example, I'm with Moritz; This buyer is surely Japanese. I've always been suspicious that the reason I could never find a lot of those records that were on my want list is that they are were bought up by obsessive Japanese collectors, notorious for paying whatever it takes to have whatever it is they need... And this was BEFORE ebay!!! Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) New/Old Stuff on vinyl...... Date: 10 Jan 2001 15:28:37 -0500 > At 7:14 AM -0800 1/10/01, jonathan richardson wrote: >which Bruce Lee soundtrack did Peter Thomas score? Id love to have that >one. Anyone Know?? "The Big Boss", Lee's first film (titled "Fists of Fury" in the U.S.). He only scored a dubbed version, not the original. I assume it's the version dubbed in German. I recently watched the original Hong Kong version, with English subttitles, and it was a Chinese composer who did the score. Doubt if there's a soundtrack, although you never know.... br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: (exotica) Jazz Date: 11 Jan 2001 00:15:36 -0500 Well, I'll give a contrary view and say that I am enjoying the Jazz series. I think tonight's (Wed) episode was the best one so far. Up to now, I would not have called myself a fan of jazz music ... not because I disliked the music, but I haven't really listened to it and was somewhat intimidated by the large roster of names affiliated with its rich history. I always recognized that I would probably enjoy the music when I eventually started listening to it, but there were always other music genres that were capturing my attention at the time. There were a few times when I would say to myself ... 'It's about time I really start to listen to some of these artists', and I would walk into the jazz section and then face a seemingly endless number of possible LPs and CDs to purchase and I would get a bit flustered and then retreat to where I came from. It doesn't help when you look into a record guide for help and notice that Louis Armstrong has a long list of LPs that are given the highest ranking ... one just doesn't know where to start. So I'm watching this series to discover which sounds I like the best, to get a better sense of the different genres of jazz....so when I do decide to venture out and buy some CDs or box sets, I will feel like I'm buying something I really like, versus doing a more scattered shotgun approach. I've learned some things already by listening to my thrifted records .... I know I definitely prefer Artie Shaw's clarinet sound to Benny Goodman's clarinet sound .... but there are so many other artists I know relatively nothing about. When is the last time you saw a Thelonius Monk LP in a thriftstore? I've never seen one myself, and I haven't been willing yet to pay $15 for one of his CDs..... but I very might well do so in about a month. I consider myself knowledgable about music ... but when I think about how little I know about jazz, and then how many people there are who know even less about music about I do .... well, I'm very appreciative to see this 20 hour series being presented. Much much more appreciative than I was for the series on baseball, that's for sure. Tonight's episode touched upon the exotic elements of jazz - particularly with Duke Ellington's work for the Cotton Club. Contrasted with the earlier music of Louis Armstrong, his music was definitely more dreamy, mellow, and well, exotic - especially when shown with footage of dancers wearing costumes from foreign cultures. I'm one who is definitely waiting with anticipation for 'Caravan' to make its appearance. Also interesting was the appearance of the 'Negro Revue' musical in Paris during the 1920's. Now what can be more exotic than the female star (Josephine Baker?), in a publicity stunt walking down the streets of Paris with a leopard on a leash. (Where are video clips when you need them!) Yes, 30 years before Bettie Page started wearing her wild animal skin swimsuit, there were others laying down some exotic elements. Tonight's episode also featured a full length song - Louis Armstrong's 'West End Blues' Sad to say, I don't believe I ever heard this song in its entirety before .... and now I want to hear more. I loved how this clip started - with a shot of a 78 spinning on a Victrola as the needle is placed on it. For a few moments, the camera lingered on this shot as the first few bars of 'West End Blues' was played. ... it was quite heavenly ...... and then they spoiled the mood by showing all this other footage of smiling children and men working in factories and cars driving on streets and other such stuff. I would have prefered 3 minutes of watching the record turn .... the footage made it seem more like a MTV video. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Linds" Subject: (exotica) Food Thank You Date: 10 Jan 2001 21:43:36 -0800 Wow!!! What a great response. Thanks everyone for your great ideas. So many to choose from!!!!!! I'm not taping the piece for awhile so if you think of others ...send them along....or do I get 10% off if I pick up! Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Food songs Date: 10 Jan 2001 22:03:31 -0800 At 09:46 AM 10-01-01 -0800, Brian wrote: >Hi everyone! You've been a real help to me when I'm putting together >segments for the segment I do on CBC here in Canada. The topic is "laughing" I have a 45 somewhere which is mainly laughing with a Country Western approach, but it would take awhile to find. However, one of my favorite laughing songs...with a Latin and Exotica approach...is by Edmundo Ros from Arriba, London SP 44080: "The Laughing Samba". Also, maybe someone mentioned this already, but Slim Gaillard "Laughing in Rhythm" from the CD of the same name on Verve. Byron ___...---''''^^^^^""""""^^^^^''''---...___ "You've got to stand for something or ||| you'll fall for anything." ||| ||| ---John Mellencamp ||| ||| ||| ||| bag@hubris.net Portland, OR, USA ||| """^^^'''----.....______.....----'''^^^""" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "toyboat 99" Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Laughing songs Date: 11 Jan 2001 00:21:07 -0600 The quintessential laughing song could be "Laughing Boy Blues". Woody Herman recorded it around 1939-40, and it features an odd maniacal laugh that seems completely incongruous with the context. It sounds more like something that might emanate from a '60s state of mind. . . CDNow has a sample of it. If the URL below doesn't work, search on Woody Herman and click on the "Blues On Parade: 1938-1941" CD. http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=155557579/pagename=/RP/SHARE/soundclip.html/UPC=2214171222/disc=01/track=04/source=ENSO d. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Food songs Date: 11 Jan 2001 02:50:57 -0500 At 10:03 PM 1/10/01 -0800, bag@hubris.net wrote: > >Also, maybe someone mentioned this already, but Slim Gaillard "Laughing in >Rhythm" from the CD of the same name on Verve. Don't want to sound like an old fogey but it's funny to hear you say "from the CD of the same name" when I have the 78 of that tune. Ha Ha Ha Ha AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) re: John Barry's "Game Of Death" Date: 11 Jan 2001 09:41:34 -0000 I didn't like it much on first listen. Its very Martial, suffers badly from repetition of the same (3?) themes. there's a nice electronic whip sound thats used as a snare beat. I played it to a bunch of performance artists and they immediately started strutting around like Gladiators. Its that Kind of thing. Very big, very military. Quite fun in its own way, I'd say only pick it up if its cheap its not John Barrys best, by any means. Didn't Peter Thomas do the OST for 'The Big Boss'? El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ Spunky Misunderstood Genius John Barry's "Game Of Death" 1978 score to the Bruce Lee film! Reviews please? - - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Clifford Subject: (exotica) food, glorious food Date: 11 Jan 2001 02:34:30 -0800 (PST) One of my all-time favorite food songs is a slinky/funky soul-disco number from the '70s from a female singer where the chorus goes something like "If I knew you liked cherries, I'd bring a bowl, and if you knew I like bananas, you'd bring a big old bunch for me." Of course, I don't have it handy, can't remember who it was, but it might have been a Casablanca release. Fun, great sexy vocals, slinky beat. Not much help for putting the show together, I guess, but maybe someone else on list can identify it. Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Food Thank You Date: 11 Jan 2001 12:09:32 +0100 Brian Linds schrieb: > Wow!!! What a great response. yeah, isn't it amazing? the potentials of this list are almost unlimited. the knowledge concentrated here is worth a couple of millions at the stock market. all we need is a Henry Ford of Exotica. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Indisches =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=FChst=FCck?= Date: 11 Jan 2001 12:10:19 +0100 Invitiation/ Einladung Extended INDIAN BREAKFAST SO, 14. Jan. 11 - 16 h @ BCN-Caf=E9, Nibelungenplatz, Frankfurt decent food - excellent music - nice ambience leckeres Essen - exzellente Musik - sch=F6ne Atmosph=E4re Food: BCN-Caf=E9, Music: - INDIAN VIBES - Kurian, Petra Klaus=20 SPECIAL GUEST: DJ Minsky - Berlin http://korrekt.net/indian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Food songs Date: 11 Jan 2001 12:10:22 +0100 Kirsten Noel Whitley schrieb: > Banana Split -- Louis Prima > Beans and Corn Bread -- Louis Jordan > Caviar and Chitlins -- ?? > Chicken Shack -- LeRoy van Dyke > Chittlin' Ball -- King Porter Orchestra > Cocoanut Woman -- Eloise Trio > Dig This Menu Please -- Red Rodney > Everybody Eats When They Come To My House -- Cab Calloway > Farmer's Market -- Lambert, Hendricks & Ross > Fried Potatoes -- Rose Maddox > Frim Fram Sauce -- King Cole Trio > I Like Molasses -- ?? (oldish country song) > I Love My Fruit -- Sweet Violet Boys > Ito Eats -- Elvis > Jambalaya -- Hank Williams, Sr. > Knock Me a Kiss -- Louis Jordan > One Finger, Two Finger, Three Finger Poi -- Augie Goupil > Peel Me a Grape -- Anita O'Day > Porkchops and Mustard Greens -- Ernie Andrews w/ the Maxwell > Davis Orchestra > Potato Chips -- Slim Gaillard > Yip Roc Heresy -- Slim Gaillard > Roly Poly -- Bob Wills > Solid Potato Salad -- Ella Mae Morse > Take a Cold Tater and Wait -- Little Jimmy Dickens > That's What I Like about the South -- Phil Harris > What's Cookin' -- Deke Dickerson > Were's My Gravy -- Steve Lucky and the Rhumba Bums > You're My Dish -- Fats Waller > > ? Constipation Blues Screamin' Jay Hawkins Popcorn - Mr K Luau Cha Cha Cha - Annette Hamburger Lady - Throbbing Gristle Uncle Meat - Frank Zappa Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Risser Family" Subject: Re: (exotica) Food songs Date: 11 Jan 2001 08:11:58 -0500 Tangerine by Led Zeppelin Apples and Oranges by Pink Floyd Angelina/Zoom Zoom by Louis Prima That's Amore by Dean Martin Soul Food by Lambert Hendricks and Ross On Top of Spaghetti by...? Friend Neckbones and Some Home Fries by all sort of Hispanic artists, including Willie Bobo Cheeseburger in Paradise by Jimmie Buffet Pollo Asada by Ween (Ween has many other food songs) Just about any parody by Weird Al Les Succette by Gainsbourg Lollipop by the Chordettes Sunshine Lollipops and Rainbows by Leslie Gore Good Ship Lollipop by Shirley Temple Honey Bucket by the Melvins Polk Salad Annie by Tony Joe White I Like Choco Bars by Shonen Knife Chocolate Buttermilk by Kool and the Gang The Candy Man by Sammy Davis Jr. The Lemon Song by Led Zeppelin Lemon Tree by many folks Lemon by U2 One Meatball by Josh White or Shinehead Tequila by Champs and others Brown Sugar by the Stones Cornflake Girl by Tori Amos or Jawbox Popcorn by Hot Butter Cornbread by the Blackbyrds Mother Popcorn by James Brown Grits by James Brown Sugar Sugar by the Archies Sugar Shack by Jimmy Glimmer Sugar Town by Nancy Sinatra Come On-A My House by Rosemary Clooney She Don't Use Jelly by Flaming Lips or Ben Folds Five Vegetables by the Beach Boys If I Knew You Were Coming I'd Have Baked a Cake - Eileen Barton MacArthur Park by Richard Harris Taste of Honey, and any other song of Herb Alpert's classic Whipped Cream album Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Ford" Subject: Re: (exotica) crouching tiger Date: 11 Jan 2001 07:31:45 -0600 > > seeing the video of that coco lee song with yo-yo ma made me really >question whether i should buy this ost or not. but you are the second person >to say this ost is really good(someone on the p5 list put it on there top >ten for 2000). sadly i still haven't seen the movie. i couldn't quite figure >out if it had english subtitles or not here. but it's out on dvd here as of >today or yesterday so i guess i'll be able to see it soon. > > william in taipei. > > Out on DVD already? That was fast! Has the movie been out for a while in Taiwan? Phil Ford # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Food songs Date: 11 Jan 2001 05:36:56 -0800 (PST) Or The Macc Lads' "Beer & Sex & Chips n Gravy". And Iggy Pop's "Eggs on Plate." --- Dj45rpm@aol.com wrote: (if you feel > especially daring, there's always Hasil Adkin's "No More Hot Dogs"....) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jim gerwitz" Subject: (exotica) crouching tiger Date: 11 Jan 2001 06:26:17 -0800 Check Usenet's alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.soundtracks - the whole OST has been posted there, and will undoubtedly be reposted. ISP's usually only keep those big mp3 files only stay on their servers for a day or two. Beautiful music, both Tan Dun's score and Yo Yo Ma's haunting cello.(Too bad I quit playing the cello in the 10th grade.) I missed digest #866, so am upset that I wasn't the first to rave about this movie here. Region 3 DVD (asia only) is out now or in a week or so, with an english dub option. Region 1 (US version) is set for June 5 release!! Go see it in a theater ASAP, will be in wider release this weekend. Although the hype is incredible its true. While most critics whove never seen a wuxia genre film are going ga-ga for CTHD it's not the greatest martial arts movie ever made, but the whole is greater than the sum of the parts - two wonderful love stories, great acting, serious ass-kicking, sly humor, cinematograpy by Peter Pau (he did "Bride of Chucky"), a fascinating glimpse into a still very exotic world and the best movie I've seen in years. IMDB has some well-written reviews by knowledgable genre fans and novices alike. I still get misty thinking about it and was weeping like Richard Simmons in the theater. Haven't bought a damn thing on eBay since last July, because for the same $7-$13 it would cost for yet another lp I don't need from eBay I can instead get a DVD shipped from an on-line HK vendor. Up to about 75 HK DVD's now and counting, tho technically CTHD is a Taiwanese film. Recommended reading -Stefan Hammond's "Sex & Zen and A Bullet in the Head" and Michael Weisser's "Asian Cult Cinema" for genre descriptions, lots of capsule reviews and wonderful mangled subtitle quotes, each book around $14 US. I've already given some HK DVD recommendations here, e-mail off-list if you want more info. HK movies have literally blown my mind this year and I've done lots of homework. Madly in love with Michelle Yeoh and Zhang Zi Yi, not to mention Chingmy Yau. Loletta Lee, Keung Ka-Ling, etc. etc.... JB Gwailo, God of Gamblers # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) New/Old Stuff on vinyl...... Date: 11 Jan 2001 06:11:05 -0800
> "The Big Boss", Lee's first film (titled "Fists of Fury" in the U.S.). Doubt
> if there's a soundtrack, although you never know....
 
This is available on vinyl from Tam as well. Havent heard it. TOo bad its not scored by Peter Thomas. I will have to check it out and see
thanks for the info Br Cleve!!
 
-jonny

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Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Food songs Date: 11 Jan 2001 09:42:04 -0500 >=20 > for health food freaks, you can't beat the Beach Boys > "H.E.L.P. Is On The Way."=20 Oh yea...The Beach Boys song "Vegetables" off Pet Sounds. =20 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA= =B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=20 Charlieman=20 "Everything that can be invented, has been invented." =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 - Charles H. Duell, 1899=A0 =A0=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) Food songs Date: 11 Jan 2001 09:27:33 -0600 Poncie Ponce????? Hawaiian Eye? Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) household hints: origami cd case Date: 11 Jan 2001 11:37:38 -0500 Given my rant about CD jewel cases, I've *gotta* pass this on. Instructions for folding an origami CD case from a common 8 1/2" by 11" sheet of paper. GIF file: http://web.merrimack.edu/~thull/cd.gif Or PDF file: http://web.merrimack.edu/~thull/cd.pdf m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Food songs Date: 11 Jan 2001 08:58:33 -0800 (PST) Yes. Great lp. I think it's called "Poncie Ponce Sings." The cover photo has him playing ukele for a couple of adoring young ladies emerging from his parked cab. He's standing in front of a bar that has the jackets of popular lounge lp covers tacked on the walls. --- Colleen Pyles wrote: > > Poncie Ponce????? Hawaiian Eye? > > > Colleen > _____________________________________ ===== Extending its immense shadow Over the world and Paris, What is this gray-eyed presence Which emerges in silence? - R. Desnos __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kirsten Noel Whitley Subject: (exotica) Neato-looking Easter Island light Date: 11 Jan 2001 11:09:38 -0600 (CST) Hey exotica pals, Those with tiki inclinations, go to: http://www.pyramidcollection.com/catalog.cfm and do a keyword search on "Moai". Too expensive for me... but I'm sure that some of you have the dough. If someone decides to buy it, please give us a report. --Kirsten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) atrecordings.com Date: 11 Jan 2001 12:41:06 -0500 Why can't my RealPlayer connect and play the audio from this web site?? After I pick "play album" or whatever, RealAudio comes up, says "connecting= " and then simply stops. Anyone have this problem too? - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Goblin's "Dawn Of The Dead" Date: 11 Jan 2001 14:41:22 +0100 The music is typical for Goblin's scores for Argento horror flicks: prog-rock, sometimes resembling Pink Floyd. Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: laughing & Food songs Date: 11 Jan 2001 15:23:15 +0100 hey, Brian, i've compiled playlists for those 2 topics too, but they're written, and i don't feel like typing them all out... but these are the ones already typed in the computor: =46OOD =46rolic Diner!!!!!! Anna Russell: : je ne veu pas faire l'amour ("l'odeur voluptueu des onions") Barry Louis Polisar: Family trip: I sneaked into the kitchen in the middle of the night (introd.) Brute force: Crazy rock cd: Sit on a sandwich Chips: Vicious vicious vocals! volume vun (v/a)/Crazy rock cd (v/a): Rubber biscuit Dan Crow: Oops!: American gum Dan Crow: Oops!: Apples and bananas Dr. Seuss: The cat in the hat song book: The super-supper march (op 45 t) Earthworms: Las Vegas Grind vol. 4 (v/a): Mo'taters Endimanch=E9s (Les): Les Endimanch=E9s: Aux champignons =E0 bicyclette =46landers & Swan: At the drop of a hat (The Complete - box): The reluctant cannibal - fragment Goodies: Beastly record: I am a carnivore Happy Schnapps Combo: 100 proof: He ate too much Jim Backus & Friend: Frolic diner vol.3: Delicious! John Zacherle: Monster mash: Gravy King's Singers: The King's Singers Swing: Java jive Lasalles (the): Chop suey rock (v/a): Chopsticks Moe Moskowitz & the Punsters: Steven Spielberg give me some of your money: I dreamt I dreamt of gefilte fish Monty Python: Monty Python sings: Spam song Nestor: : =E0 la p=EAche aux moules norman gagman band: : les escargots Pete Seeger: : I know an old lady who swallowed a fly Peter sellers & Sophia Loren: A celebration of Sellers (box): Bangers and ma= sh Pookiesnackenburger: : Hot dog Radio commercials: TeeVeeToons!!!! Sesame Street-Cookie Monster: : C" is for cookie Sesame street-Oscar the Grough: : Oscar's B sandwich Slim Gaillard: : Tutti frutti Slim Gaillard: Laughin' in rhythm; the best of the Verve years: Potato chips Spike Jones & His City Slickers: Greatest hits (The Entertainers): Yes, we have no bananas Stevens & Grdnic: Demento 70's: Fast food Superbs: Beans: Beans Tiny Tim: For all my little friends: Sunshine cake Trout Fishing in America: : Teddy bear's picnic Weird Al Yankovic: : Eat it Weird Al Yankovic: The food album!!! HAHAHA: Billy Williams: wibbly wobbly cd: tickle me, Timothy Bourvil: C'=E9tait bien: La dondon dodue Bourvil & G. Gu=E9tary: Bourvil et l'operette: C'est la vie Boh=EAme Dame Edna: The sound of Edna: The night we burnt my mother's things David Bowie: The laughing gnome: the laughing gnome Hysterics: Five tracks of laughter: Now that's funny (hysterical laughter) Jim Bachus: : Delicious ('58) Joe & Sharon Keefe: Laf-til-yur-saurus -14 Funny tunes: Grandpa died laughin= g John Zacherle: Monster mash: The ha-ha-ha Maurice Chevalier: : Il pleurait Maurice Chevalier: : Quand un vicomte (1935) Scamps: Frolic Diner 2: Enchilada Slim Gaillard: Laughin' in rhythm; the best of the Verve years: Laughing in rhythm Spike Jones: Harlequin 3 - Who killed Chloe?: Now laugh Spike Jones: Spiked: Holiday for strings Spike Jones: Spiked/Harlequin 1 Standard Transcription Discs 1942-44: Pack up your trubles in your old kit bag spike jones: : laughing record Tiny Tim: Tiny Tim's 2nd album: She's just laughing at me Val-Chords: You're laughing at me: You're laughing at me Walt Disney: The magical music of Walt Disney - box: Laughing place (from "Song of the South") Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Taub Subject: Re: (exotica) atrecordings.com Date: 11 Jan 2001 13:09:59 -0500 I got it to work. It did take a while to connect tho. Listening to Pop-Shopping... Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: (exotica) Ugella?? Chaino?? Date: 11 Jan 2001 11:55:15 -0800 I picked up a record today called Ugella and the Viking Pops Orchestra play Theme From Mondo Cane This is a very fine piece of Bongo Madness. I remember somebody saying a while back that this was actually a Chaino record. Is this true? Can someone verify. If so are there any other out there like this that I should be looking for. thanks in advance -jonny _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jan-Erik Frigren" Subject: Re: (exotica) Food Date: 09 Sep 2001 21:07:39 +0300 The best food piece I know: Descendents :I like food A really short song I like food, food tastes good!=20 I like food, food tastes good!=20 Juicy burgers, greasy fries=20 Turkey legs and raw fish eyes=20 Teenage girls, with ketchup too!=20 Get out of my way, or I'll eat you=20 I like food, food tastes good!=20 I like food, food tastes good!=20 I'm going to turn dining back into eating.=20 Jan-Erik Frigren # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) atrecordings.com Date: 11 Jan 2001 15:27:23 -0500 Nathan Miner wrote: > Why can't my RealPlayer connect and play the audio from this web site?? After I pick "play album" or whatever, RealAudio comes up, says "connecting" and then simply stops. ==== Can you right-click on the link and "save as" the .ram file to your local drive and play it from there? That way (if this idea works) you won't have to worry about network congestion while listening to the file. Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) Re: you might want to keep an eye out for these records... Date: 11 Jan 2001 13:20:42 -0800 >I haven't seen >what a copies of rare Nurse with Wound or Whitehouse LPs go for on ebay but >my guess is there are not enough collectors out there to get these >prices. Now as for Elvis no rational explanation is possible... > >But as for this particular example, I'm with Moritz; This buyer is surely >Japanese. I've always been suspicious that the reason I could never find a >lot of those records that were on my want list is that they are were bought >up by obsessive Japanese collectors, notorious for paying whatever it takes >to have whatever it is they need... And this was BEFORE ebay!!! > >Brian Actually a lot of Nurse With Wound goes for big bucks on Ebay. I think some of that has to do with Stapleton messing around with tracks when he's reissued them in the past. To my knowledge the only way you can get the original versions of Brained by Falling Masonry songs or the Gyllenskold songs is on the original 12"s, for example. Plus a lot of the original records had artwork inserts, and they're kind of just nice to have in a larger format. Whitehouse I don't know. But I think ever since NWW did songs with Stereolab, and Stereolab got big, a lot more people became interested. I agree with you about absurd prices people pay for vinyl on Ebay. I wish I could find a copy of the Hustler or Modesty Blaise (Fontana label) soundtracks for less than $75. I'd even settle for CDRs (hint hint...anybody?) I just can't justify spending that much on a record. I think the most I've ever spent on a record on Ebay was around $40, for the soundtrack to a Japanese film called House, but I knew I was going to burn copies for friends if I got it, and honestly, when I found it, I didn't even know it existed. Maybe if that collector snagged that soundtrack for like $535 or whatever, and he put out bootlegs of it for sale, he might possibly recoup some of the money. But somehow I suspect he's just going to file it away in some vault and spend the rest of his life just smugly looking at it every day. Unlucky --- Mr. Unlucky presents Shoot To Kill, a weekly set of jazz, soundtrack music, and Now Sound, on Supersphere.com, Thursdays 12-2 p.m. (CST). http://www.supersphere.com Get your small business started at Lycos Small Business at http://www.lycos.com/business/mail.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) household hints: origami cd case Date: 11 Jan 2001 17:03:56 -0500 "m.ace" wrote: > Given my rant about CD jewel cases, I've *gotta* pass this on. Instructions for folding an origami CD case from a common 8 1/2" by 11" sheet of paper. +++++ Cute! Thanks to the Scout Report for more Fun with Origami tricks: Money Origami http://www.umva.com/~clay/money/ For those of us with some extra time and cash, Money Origami, created by software engineer Sherwood Clay Randall Jr., offers a "true creative output." Following the step-by-step instructions, users will learn to fold dollar bills into the shapes of rings, gift boxes, and sailboats. Detailed photos and easy steps put creative money-folding in reach of almost anyone. As to why one would want to turn his or her hard-earned cash into fake eye glasses or a miniature pair of boots, we won't speculate. ---- lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) crouching tiger Date: 11 Jan 2001 15:09:05 -0800 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Phil Ford > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 5:32 AM > Out on DVD already? That was fast! Has the movie been out for a while in > Taiwan? My wife saw CTHD over the summer in Hong Kong last year (friends of mine in Singapore saw it almost a year ago as well). Wong Kar-Wai's "In the Mood for Love," one of my favorite films of last year (up there with "You Can Count On Me"), won't be released in the US until June or so (I think), but I managed to buy a legit DVD copy by sauntering into some strip mall in the middle of nowhere (somewhere in the west side of Houston, actually). Some of you exoticats would like it, I'm sure; Nat King Cole's songs sung in Spanish figure very prominently. And as for CTHD, it's worth all the hype. Go see it. (Aside to Jim Gerwitz: where do you buy your HK DVDs online? Is Poker Industries a good place?) Later, Ben np: badly drawn boy, "the hour of bewilderbeast" http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara ICQ: 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Millionaire Subject: (exotica) FOOD Date: 11 Jan 2001 15:52:33 -0800 Here's a few more FOOD songs! Brother Jack McDuff-"Butter (for yo popcorn)" Screamin' Jay Hawkins-"Alligator Wine" The Rutles-"Cheese and Onions" India Adams-"Comfort Me With Apples" Ciao, The Millionaire # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J o h n Subject: Re: (exotica) FOOD (again!) Date: 11 Jan 2001 17:18:49 -0800 (PST) Forgot one: "Toast and Marmalade For Tea--Tin Tin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) please identify this sample Date: 11 Jan 2001 21:17:45 -0500 Okay anyone have Fila Brasilia's "Touch of Cloth"? Please tell me what that melody is that's either sampled or played on the very first cut. It's a very very familiar couple of bars of music but I can't put my finger on it. Please, if you don't tell me I'll have to stop listening to it. BTW I have identified an electronica genre that I almost consistently like. Some people probably call it "Future Jazz" but not all the stuff in the future jazz section fits in with this stuff. I'd call it "Alice Coltrane-ica" or "slowjazz" or "jazz dub fusion". The Cinematic Orchestra is part of it. Other recent CD's I like which fit into this genre are: Nine Yards Orchestra "Our Backyard" produced by Max Bronnan Sad Rockets "Transition" Tom Tyler "Asleep at the Switch" (I'm told he did a remix on the Cinematic Orchestra remix CD) Also in this genre is someone called, I think, "O.H. Krill". I heard the CD but I'm waiting for it to come in so I can't tell you more. Yippee! I found my genre! Anyway, what is that tune please? I keep almost figuring it out. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz Date: 11 Jan 2001 23:37:07 -0500 >Well, I'll give a contrary view and say that I am enjoying the Jazz >series. I think tonight's (Wed) episode was the best one so far. >So I'm watching this series to discover which sounds I like the best, to >get a better sense of the different genres of jazz.... If you're getting something good out of it, that's good. I can see that it might make a handy overview for a newbie. But please, please bear in the back of your mind that this is a slanted and exclusionary production. I know, I know. I'm supposed to be kicking the habit of this thread. But just this last one. Then I'll go cold turkey. Honest... When I thought they only *ignored* the avant garde, I was willing to give them a pass for the reason that they could give folks such as Vern an entry point. But now that I know they will actively *denigrate* progressive artists, phooey. That crosses the line into evil. And a pretty cheesy evil at that. The series is being promoted as the ultimate authoritative guide to jazz, and these smug characters are using it to drop bombs on other people's careers or denigrate the dead. One wishes Miles Davis were still around to fire back as only he could. Well, we can quote from his autobiography... Describing an incident where WM tried to horn in on a Miles performance and got chased off the stage: "...Because we were playing some set pieces and when he came up like that I was trying to give the band some cues. He wouldn't have fit in. Wynton can't play the kind of shit we were playing. He's not into that kind of style and so we would have had to make adjustments to the way he was going to be playing. "When Wynton did that to me, that showed me he didn't have no respect for his elders. First of all, I'm old enough to be his father and he had already talked real bad shit about me in the papers and on television and in magazines and shit. He never apologized for the shit he had said about me. We ain't tight friends, like me and Dizzy and Max and some other guys. As close as me and Dizzy are, I wouldn't ever do that to him or him to me. We would ask each other in front. Wynton thinks that music is about blowing people away up on stage. But music isn't about competition, but about cooperation, doing shit together and fitting in. It's definitely not about competition, at least not to me. That kind of attitude has no place in music as far as I'm concerned." A paragraph about jamming and cutting with respect and love, then: "But it's not like that with Wynton (at least I haven't seen that kind of respect out of him toward me) or with hardly any of the other younger musicians today. They all want to be stars right away. They all want to have what they call their own styles. But all these young guys are doing is playing somebody else's shit, copying all the runs and licks that other guys already laid down." [Wynton's been getting so much international airtime to talk about other people, I just thought it would be nice to hear someone else talk about him for a change.] And having been negative again, I will try to compensate with some constructive points. >When is the last time you saw a >Thelonius Monk LP in a thriftstore? I've never seen one myself, and I >haven't been willing yet to pay $15 for one of his CDs..... but I very >might well do so in about a month. A nice single CD "starter" comp would be "Jazz Profile: Thelonious Monk" on Blue Note (part of a series of "Jazz Profile" comps). It focuses on early recordings on Blue Note and includes a good helping of his standards... "'Round Midnight", "Straight No Chaser", "Epistrophy", more. An excellent film documentary is "Thelonious Monk: Straight, No Chaser" -- loaded with terrific performance footage, much of which runs unhindered. Including some amazing solo piano pieces. His dismantling of "Just A Gigolo" never fails to blow my mind. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Risser Family" Subject: Re: (exotica) Food Date: 11 Jan 2001 23:39:17 -0500 There's always Rapture by Blondie where the alien eats cars and bars and guitars. Also, Beck's new album has three or four food related tunes on it. And Cream by Prince. And any number of food-related double entendres in any number of old blues songs. And, hey, while we're at it, the Candy Bar song, with all the double entendres based on candy bars. Peter ----- Original Message ----- I like food, food tastes good! I like food, food tastes good! Juicy burgers, greasy fries Turkey legs and raw fish eyes Teenage girls, with ketchup too! Get out of my way, or I'll eat you I like food, food tastes good! I like food, food tastes good! I'm going to turn dining back into eating. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Risser Family" Subject: Fw: (exotica) FOOD (again!) Date: 11 Jan 2001 23:40:15 -0500 Toast by Heywood Banks. Great tune. > ----- Original Message ----- > > Forgot one: "Toast and Marmalade For Tea--Tin Tin > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Karasick Subject: Re:(exotica) Re: you might want to keep an eye out for these Date: 12 Jan 2001 00:03:06 -0500 Mr. Unlucky wrote: >Actually a lot of Nurse With Wound goes for big bucks on Ebay. I think >some of that has to do with Stapleton messing around with tracks when he's >reissued them in the past. To my knowledge the only way you can get the >original versions of Brained by Falling Masonry songs or the Gyllenskold >songs is on the original 12"s, for example. Plus a lot of the original >records had artwork inserts, and they're kind of just nice to have in a >larger format. Whitehouse I don't know. But I think ever since NWW did >songs with Stereolab, and Stereolab got big, a lot more people became >interested. Hand numbered editions, special inserts, and even handmade covers are things I can and did get into collecting, almost as art objects. Maybe one reason to get an original and pay a big price for it. The different mix gimmick reminds me all to much of the CD reissue game with extra tracks added to entice you to dump the vinyl or get both. I remember a few labels putting the extra tracks on the vinyl only as a form of protest. I think limiting the early NWW/Stereolab recordings to editions in the order of 200 was either a gross underestimation of real demand or a mean trick to play on fans of both groups. But few exotica records fall into this category so those high prices seem even stranger to me. The big exception is library/production music which was never made for public consumption but as art objects the originals still don't do it for me, especially if I can find a CD reissue. Brian (e-bay free but confused at the drawing the line between music and art) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "william" Subject: (exotica) re:crouching tiger Date: 12 Jan 2001 14:59:34 +0800 >I missed digest #866, so am upset that I wasn't the first to rave about this >movie here. Region 3 DVD (asia only) is out now or in a week or so, with an >english dub option. Region 1 (US version) is set for June 5 release!! is it english dub or english subtitles? i saw it in the shops today and it said english subtitles as well as korean, thai, and chinese i think. it's selling here for about 18-20 u.s. i think. >Up to about 75 >HK DVD's now and counting, tho technically CTHD is a Taiwanese film. i think they conciously tried to make this more than a taiwanese film. i mean the director is taiwanese(unless he has since become a u.s. citizen i'm not sure) but the stars come from hk, malaysia, taiwan and china. so it's sort of a joint venture going on at least on the stars level. surprisingly this was a big hit here. movies of this sort have not been popular here in years apparently. not on this level at least. i used to be obsessed with hk action movies but it started to wane before i came to taiwan and rarely watch them anymore. at least not in the theater. here at almost any given time you can find 5 channels(or more!) on tv showing old hk movies with subtitles usually. sometimes even old soaps with the likes of maggie cheung, tony leung chiu-wai, etc. on tv. but those will not have english subtitles. one of my students complained that the chinese is weird in this movie and the accents are still not right. he felt that it was almost written more for foreigners than native chinese speakers. but i don't know as most of the people i know haven't bothered to see it or are not interested in it. >Recommended reading -Stefan Hammond's "Sex & Zen and A Bullet in the Head" >and Michael Weisser's "Asian Cult Cinema" for genre descriptions, lots of >capsule reviews and wonderful mangled subtitle quotes, each book around $14 >US. there's another really good book but the title escapes me. i think it came out of england. maybe from the people who coined the term "heroic bloodshed". i forget now. i opted not to bring it with me. still in storage at my parents. but it's bigger than the sex and zen book and the asian cult cinema books. closer to a coffee table book but with a soft cover. maybe it's out of print now. william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) tom Tyler Date: 12 Jan 2001 09:43:51 -0000 Tom Tyler has a number of releases on Depth Charge (an LP and 4 or 5 twelve's) Some of the 12's are quite good, but I find the beats a bit harsh and loud to play alongside much else I have. The LP is much mellower, almost ambient, I've only skim listened to that in a shop. But theres one 12 (Skye sessions maybe, something like that) that is basically 12 minutes of disco / funk breaks strung together. Quite irritating, and pretty pointless. If its a live mix then maybe I can see it as showing off, but it lacks the musicality of, say Wheels of Steel by grandmaster flash. In a similar vein to the Future Sound of Jazz stuff are some of the Breaks Beats and Bossa LP's, and also quite a chunk of the Ninja compilation Xen cuts (following Rob McKenna round both of those - thanks Rob!). Also I see that there are 4 or 5 new Bossa Compilations out very lurid covers, can't remember the names, does anyone have comments? Cleve? 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Go see it. (Aside to Jim > Gerwitz: > where do you buy your HK DVDs online? Is Poker Industries a good > place?) Does anyone know of a good UK/European importer of HK DVDs? Preferably online... Robbie Spaced Out - the Enoch Light website http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ This message was sent by Easymail - http://www.easynet.co.uk/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) No. Really. It's an Exotica post. From me. Well, mostly... Date: 12 Jan 2001 09:15:16 -0500 I'm about to burn my mp3s that I pulled down from the newsgroups, minding my own business, not bodderin' nobody when I noticed "Jezebel" by Frankie Laine, with Mitch Miller's backing. Very cool stuff and I heard it first, because of a '60s "garage band" remake by the Teddy Boys. Movie alert! For those of you with BET Movies, at 3:05 AM on Monday, Jan. 15, they will be showing The Duke is Tops, with Ralph Cooper, Lena Horne and, of course...not Duke Ellington (!). The title refers to Cooper's character, Duke Davis. There is no doubt in my mind that the filmmakers had NO intention of deceiving the public. :^) I caught the tail end of this movie and the music is great! For all of you New Yorkers out there (Hiya, Lou), I got a bit of a shock when I caught part of "Cool Hand Luke". This is the second time I have seen this film and while the convicts are working on the road, I heard an extremely familiar music cue. Lalo Schifrin's (I'm saying it like Schif-FREEN) music was used as the Eyewitness News theme. I'm Roger Grimsby, hear now the news, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Ford" Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz Date: 12 Jan 2001 08:38:18 -0600 >When I thought they only *ignored* the avant garde, I was willing to give >them a pass for the reason that they could give folks such as Vern an entry >point. But now that I know they will actively *denigrate* progressive >artists, phooey. That crosses the line into evil. And a pretty cheesy evil >at that. The series is being promoted as the ultimate authoritative guide >to jazz, and these smug characters are using it to drop bombs on other >people's careers or denigrate the dead. Or the living. Crouch continues to embarrass people in public settings (parties, jazz clubs, etc.) by being pointedly obnoxious to avant-garde musicians (or, as he likes to put it, "the so-called avant-garde"). This is a little bit of the David Horowitz phenomenon -- Horowitz was a left-wing nut in the sixties (rabid Marxist, advocate of terrorist groups like Weatherman) who became a right-wing nut in the 1980s and who sees it as his life's work to war against the philosophies that he formerly espoused. In the 1960s, Crouch was a black nationalist and (according to his bio in the New Grove dictionary of jazz) a free-jazz drummer, although if that were true you'd think he would show more musical literacy in his comments on the show. But around 1980 he ditched all of his old friends (Amiri Baraka and David Murray especially) and began a sort of culture war against black nationalism and the black avant-garde, scripting Wynton as a sort of Parsifal figure in his latter-day crusade. The jazz pianist D.D. Jackson told me about a gig he was playing with free jazz violinist Billy Bang where Crouch sauntered into the club, walked up to Bang and said (with that smug self-satisfaction that comes of doing something you consider cutely "outrageous") "so, Billy, still playing that thing out of tune?" It was such a gratuitously disrespectful act towards an unassuming, gentle man (and a fine musician), everybody sort of stood around and didn't know what to say. Crouch does this kind of thing all the time -- this anecdote is not at all untypical. By the way, Crouch outed Taylor in the early 80s by alluding to Taylor's homosexuality in a newspaper column -- and this had formerly been something Taylor had carefully kept out of the news. So at this point, a little trash-talking on a TV show is nothing much. Phil Ford # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bump Subject: Re: (exotica) No. Really. It's an Exotica post. From me. Date: 12 Jan 2001 09:54:06 -0500 cool hand luke is floating around my house this week as well. i was told it makes the first "MULLET" reference, as too a hairdo (or hairdon't) it was one of my favorite movies when i was a kid but i fail to remember the mullet thing. i will check it out this weekend as well as listen for that SCHIFFREEN music. bump >For all of you New Yorkers out there (Hiya, Lou), I got a bit of a shock >when I caught part of "Cool Hand Luke". This is the second time I have >seen this film and while the convicts are working on the road, I heard an >extremely familiar music cue. Lalo Schifrin's (I'm saying it like >Schif-FREEN) music was used as the Eyewitness News theme. ****************************************************** ***************************** ************* DJ Bump "Primitive Rhythms for Evolved Minds" Defective Records-Executive Producer bump@defectiverecords.com http://www.defectiverecords.com "Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) Jazz Date: 12 Jan 2001 07:39:53 -0800 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Phil Ford > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 6:38 AM [some stuff snipped] > Or the living. Crouch continues to embarrass people in public settings > (parties, jazz clubs, etc.) by being pointedly obnoxious to avant-garde > musicians (or, as he likes to put it, "the so-called > avant-garde"). > show. But around 1980 he ditched all of his old friends (Amiri Baraka and > David Murray especially) and began a sort of culture war against black > nationalism and the black avant-garde, scripting Wynton as a sort of > Parsifal figure in his latter-day crusade. Not entirely. Here are some Stanley Crouch snippets, from 1988, on one of those members of the black avant-garde: "----- - ---- [guess who it is; answer revealed at the end] is a man who understands the communicative powers of the saxophone, the sonic weight and the translucence to harsh textures that have made the instrument so fundamental to the idiom of Afro-American improvising. The substantial girth of his tone... separates him from those who have no more than a counterfeit connection to the music which evolved in the wake of Ornette Coleman's quartet..." "...there is always the audible proof of great skill. This man is no charlatan; charlatans never get their instruments to sound as he does, nor are they capable of the calling, keening, singing passages served on such a big invisible platter of tone. Everything one hears in ----'s playing is the result of long hours of practice, great diligence and care in the production of sound." "---- is clearly a man who has heard the sound of such masters as Coleman Hawkins, Sonny Rollins, John Coltrane... and the most ardent primitive of the '60s -- Albert Ayler." From the (long) liner notes to David S. Ware Trio's "Passage to Music" album, on Silkheart Records. Later, Ben http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara ICQ: 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J o h n Subject: Re: (exotica) please identify this sample Date: 12 Jan 2001 07:54:44 -0800 (PST) BTW I have identified an electronica genre that I > almost consistently like. > Some people probably call it "Future Jazz" but not > all the stuff in the > future jazz section fits in with this stuff. > I'd call it "Alice Coltrane-ica" or "slowjazz" or > "jazz dub fusion". I think I know what you mean. I picked up The Fez File Vol 1. on Schema Records. Some of the artists on it include The Karminsky Experience, Ursula 1000 , and Cinematic Orchestra. Can anyone on the list reccommend any Karminsky Experience stuff? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) FOOD (again!) Date: 12 Jan 2001 11:11:36 -0500 One more... Eldeberry Wine by Elton John. It was the original flipside for the Crocodile Rock single. =20 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA= =B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=20 Charlieman=20 "Everything that can be invented, has been invented." =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 - Charles H. Duell, 1899=A0 =A0=20 =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wayno" Subject: (exotica) My 2¢ on the JAZZ thing... Date: 12 Jan 2001 09:01:20 -0800 Vern's response to the "Jazz" controversy was thoughtful and well stated. Glad to hear you're digging (and digging into) some of this stuff. My take is that this highly hyped media event will spark a fad with the general public that will die out soon enough. The average viewer will, if anything, buy a couple of the tie-in compilation CDs and play them at parties. The discs (which to be fair, are pretty decent overviews of each artist's output) will be used as sonic wallpaper for a while and will then be forgotten. Vern, you are not the typical viewer, you're an explorer interested in learning about things that are new to you. Jazz music is rich and varied, and has many rewards to offer you. Unfortunately, this bloated documentary focuses on a few giants, officially sanctioned by the Marsalis/Crouch regime as fitting into "the tradition." Other innovators, who took the music down paths not coincident with what Marsalis views as legitimate, are glossed over or ignored. Members of this list would probably be interested in the music of Rahsaan Roland Kirk, but from what I understand he doesn't show up in the PBS series. Kirk had roots in tradition and eventually transcended them, creating his own wild (and very entertaining) vocabulary. Besides, a very large blind man playing three horns simultaneously would certainly be more interesting to look at than the same shots of the Chicago rail yards and grinning jitterbuggers that pad out Burns's film. Rahsaan's Atlantic albums "Blacknuss" (wherein he twists hit songs like "Never Can Say Goodbye," "Mercy Mercy Me," and "Ain't No Sunshine" into something completely "other") and "Natural Black Inventions: Root Strata" (Kirk plays an assortment of horns & percussion, many of his own design, without overdubs) are two of my personal favorites. Overall, Burns's film will do little to "revive" jazz beyond its meager 3% share of US music sales (except in the short run), and does a disservice to those who are truly interested in exploration. As Ken Tucker said in his review in "Entertainment Weekly" (not the hippest publication around, by the way) (I'm paraphrasing here): "All right! I get it! Armstrong and Ellington were great! Now let's see something else!" By the way, does anyone else think that Stanley Crouch looks like a Muppet? Wayno ---------------- Sent from a WebBox - http://www.webbox.com FREE Web based Email, Files, Bookmarks, Calendar, People and Great Ways to Share them with Others! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits] Bryan Gregory Date: 12 Jan 2001 12:08:58 -0500 Bryan Gregory ANAHEIM, Calif. (AP) -- Shock-haired guitarist Bryan Gregory, an original member of The Cramps, whose trashy rock 'n' roll first gained notoriety during the late 1970s punk music heyday, died Wednesday. He was 46. Gregory, a native of Detroit, had recently suffered a heart attack and had been ill for several weeks, said his former wife, Robyn Hunt. The Cramps made their 1976 debut at New York's legendary punk club CBGB. The Cramps released two albums which feature Gregory on second guitar: the Alex Chilton-produced ``Gravest Hits'' in 1979 and ``Songs the Lord Taught Us'' in 1980. After Gregory's departure from the band in 1980, The Cramps founding duo -- singer Lux Interior (Erick Purkhiser) and guitarist Poison Ivy Rorschach (Kirsty Wallace) continued the band with various members. Gregory then performed with the band Beast until 1984, and with The Dials from 1992 to 1995. He had recently formed a new band named Shiver. Gregory, who was known for his wild stage antics and his distinctive lock of bleached hair hanging over his eye, also appeared with other Cramps members as ``punk thugs'' in the 1978 film ``The Foreigner.'' http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=1THE|CRAMPS' ======== Milan Hlavasa: http://elvispelvis.com/milanhlavsa.htm Jimmy Zambo http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/newsid_1098000/1098953.stm James Carr: http://www.sonicnet.com/news/archive/story.jhtml?id=1437838 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil Ford Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz Date: 12 Jan 2001 11:24:36 +0100 > > "----- - ---- [guess who it is; answer revealed at the end] is a man who > understands the communicative powers of the saxophone, the sonic weight and > the translucence to harsh textures that have made the instrument so > fundamental to the idiom of Afro-American improvising. The substantial girth > of his tone... separates him from those who have no more than a counterfeit > connection to the music which evolved in the wake of Ornette Coleman's > quartet..." > > "...there is always the audible proof of great skill. This man is no > charlatan; charlatans never get their instruments to sound as he does, nor > are they capable of the calling, keening, singing passages served on such a > big invisible platter of tone. Everything one hears in ----'s playing is the > result of long hours of practice, great diligence and care in the production > of sound." > > "---- is clearly a man who has heard the sound of such masters as Coleman > Hawkins, Sonny Rollins, John Coltrane... and the most ardent primitive of > the '60s -- Albert Ayler." > > >From the (long) liner notes to David S. Ware Trio's "Passage to Music" > album, on Silkheart Records. > Huh! Well, you learn something new every day. I guess I have to give Crouch more credit. But then again, maybe not. Crouch bothers me as much for the invariance of his perspective (and the limits of horizon revealed thereby) as for what that perspective actually is. He always winds up saying the same sorts of things when reviewing anything -- any music, any movie, any book, anything. He has his little agenda -- a perspective on race and culture forged, with much greater subtlety, by Albert Murray -- which he pushes at every opportunity. Crouch-isms fall heavily over everything he writes. Take the passage above: OK, so he makes an exception for David Ware, but he has to couch his praise in the same terms he uses to discuss *everything.* When he writes that Ware "is a man who understands the communicative powers of the saxophone, the sonic weight and the translucence to harsh textures that have made the instrument so fundamental to the idiom of Afro-American improvising" he is making one of his categorical statements about how something like a saxophone is *inherently* something -- something *inherently* communicative by virtue of its *inherent* sonic weight and *inherent* "translucence to harsh textures" (what does that even mean?), all of which is *inherently* suited to "the idiom of Afro-American improvising." Leaving aside the very dubious grounds for all these essentializing assumptions, you also have to ask, is there *one* idiom of Afro-American improvising? Crouch clearly thinks so, and his praise for David Ware is for a musician who he thinks falls within it. And he goes on at some length trying to make this clear -- his flagwaving about the Great Jazz Tradition (with all the associated Crouchy implications that all those avant-garde "charlatans" don't belong to it) and his patronizing remarks about how much David Ware practices (as if Cecil Taylor doesn't). And there is also the tacit assumption that the Great Tradition of Jazz is INHERENTLY African American, which I don't even want to get into. (Henry Louis Gates points out that although the Crouch/Murray line of thought gets slammed by Afrocentrists as "assimilationist," it is actually radically Afrocentric in its own way. In this sense, Crouch didn't depart from Amiri Baraka as much as it might appear.) I guess the point of all this is to say that Crouch, as a jazz and cultural critic, goes into every situation carrying a heavy load of dogma, and it prevents his criticism from ever doing what real criticism does: coming to terms with a piece of music in terms of its own unique expressive properties. (For an example of this kind of criticism, see Whitney Balliett or Gary Giddins.) I always get the sense that Crouch apprehends every piece of jazz music in terms of what he wants it to be -- and this notion of what he wants it to be is a function of an ideology that is not, at bottom, an aesthetic one. Phil Ford # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) My =?iso-8859-1?Q?2=A2_?= on the JAZZ thing... Date: 12 Jan 2001 14:48:31 -0500 I think I figured it out. Why Jazz focusses on what it focusses on. And the clue was in Wayno's reference to Roland Kirk. At 09:01 AM 1/12/01 -0800, Wayno wrote: > Besides, a very large blind man playing three horns >simultaneously would certainly be more interesting to look at >than the same shots of the Chicago rail yards and grinning jitterbuggers >that pad out Burns's film. I think that's the clue. The imagery associated with jazz from the sixties onward and the imagery from before the second world war are very different in many ways. If you were watching Jazz so far - with the SOUND OFF - you would be used to a certain look and a certain rhythm to the piece. If you've been following the series and you turn it in for parts four and five and six, your senses will not be upset by what you see. The look and the rhythm will continue. It will all be very consistent with what has come before. The music in the background will change somewhat but not so much. Not that your "average" music listener will hear. Or it'll be so gradual that they'll barely notice. This style of documentary using black and white archival photographs and little scratchy snippets of black and white film has become so familiar now that it's like a parallel universe. It's a place called "The Past". It's a very familiar and comfortable place. People love to visit this place. And I don't want to get all McLuhan-ish on you but the feel of the place is often more significant than the particular content that is being focussed on. Visiting "The Past" for episode two of Ken Burns' "Jazz" series or for "A&E looks at the life of Rudy Vallee" or for a piece about the Roaring Twenties are all virtually the same experience. Ken Burns makes docummentaries about "The Past". He's not very comfortable with anything else. Like "The Present" or "The Recent Past". He'll leave that to others. The final episode of "Jazz", which (finally) concentrates on the post-60's world of jazz will look completely different than the rest of the episodes. It will look like another world, another universe. Not the comfortable place we've been visiting for the rest of the series. And it will sound very different. No matter how much they avoid the avant garde, it will sound very different. I'm sure Ken Burns wasn't very comfortable making the final episode. But he felt like he had no choice. Still it's only one episode. That's not too bad. In these early episodes they may be talking about passionate - even angry - Negroes forcing their music on the world. They may be talking about music that seemed unfamiliar to folks at the time. Savage. "Jungle music". Blistering and angry even. But the truth is, to most people, the background music we've heard so far has been "HAPPY" music. Even the least sophisticated music listener has been able to "listen" so far without screwing up their faces and going "What is that noise?" And the musicians they've seen have been pretty unthreatening too. And most of them are reminded of the music played by Dixieland bands. White men in straw hats and suspenders. Or they're reminded of Louis Armstrong singing "Hello Dolly". Even if they don't like jazz - or even if they think they don't like jazz - almost anyone could watch the series so far and go "Oh I like this". My mother could tap her feet to this stuff. And one of the reasons so many of them like this stuff, even if they say they don't like jazz, is because this is the music they always hear when they visit "The Past". "Oh this is the kind of music I heard when we were watching that show about Baseball" (The Ken Burns series which inspired him to make this one; or so the story goes.) I don't know what Ken Burns is like. Specifically I don't know if he's a weak person and whether that's the explanation for Wynton Marsalis's agenda seemingly taking over the project. But this explanation makes more sense to me. They were made for each other. They both love "The Past". Wynton loves it so much that he thinks he lived in it. He's spent so much time living in "The Past" that he believes he lived in "the actual past". He's so successfully integrated the stories he's heard and read about that he now recounts them as if he'd been there. Sorry for the length of that but it just all came together in my head with the image of Roland Kirk. A modern man wearing colorful clothing and screeching into two horns at the same time does not fit into "The Past" AZ AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pinwhiz@pop.ihug.co.nz Subject: RE: (exotica) FOOD (again!) Date: 12 Jan 2001 20:03:59 GMT > > One more... > > Eldeberry Wine by Elton John. It was the original flipside for the > Crocodile Rock single. One from me with a New Zealand Connection... Barbara Manning w/ Chris Knox(Tall Dwarfs): Her Pies (On Barbara Mannings "In New Zealand") cheers Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) Morricone in the UK Date: 12 Jan 2001 21:44:42 +0100 ...ENNIO WILL KNOW US BY THE TRAIL OF SOUNDTRACKS Influential veteran soundtrack composer ENNIO MORRICONE is to make his first live UK performance at a film-related season at LONDON BARBICAN CENTRE in March. Members of Portishead, The Delgados, Asian Dub Foundation and Tortoise are also contributing to 'Only Connect', a live event where bands provide soundtracks to films and art. Organisers of the sessions, which commence on March 1 at the Barbican, claim the month long series of events to be a "kick back against the formulaic" offering "artists much needed space and perfect conditions for experimentation, collaboration and the creation of new work". As part of the series, Asian Dub Foundation will provide a live soundtrack to the French film set in the inner city of Paris, 'La Haine'. Elsewhere, Portishead's Adrian Utley provides the score to a new short film by Nicolas Roeg featuring supermodel Claudia Schiffer, The Delgados will provide music to the work of artist Joe Coleman, and Chicago post-rockers Tortoise form the backing band for Tom Ze, the Brazilian Tropicala founder. For many, however, the highlight of the programme is the Morricone event on March 10 and 11, which will feature a selection of his greatest film scores - which include archetypal Western themes such as 'The Good, The Bad And The Ugly' and 'Once Upon A Time In The West' - and two contemporary classical compositions. Two hundred musicians will perform on stage with Morricone conducting. The March 10 performance will be followed by a late-night screening of 'Once Upon A Time In The West' in the main hall. http://www.nme.com/NME/External/News/News_Story/0,1004,12942,00.html Arjan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Hall Subject: (exotica) Laugh/Eat Date: 12 Jan 2001 15:54:01 -0500 Brian Linds wrote: > >Hi everyone! You've been a real help to me when I'm putting together >segments for the segment I do on CBC here in Canada. The topic is "laughing" >records this Sat.Next month the topic is "food" related songs and spoken Any ideas? >Brian Linds Here's a few: Laughing: Laugh, Laugh (Beau Brummels) Laughing (the Guess Who) Laughing Man (Adrian Belew) Ha Ha Said the Clown (Yardbirds) Laughing Song (the Residents) Food; Fried Neckbone and some Homefries (Willie Bobo) Hot Barbeque (Brother Jack MacDuff) Hungry Like the Wolf (Duran Duran) Timothy (Buoys) (cannibalism-theme) Ice Cream Man (Van Halen) Eat It (Weird Al) Lunch With Ed (Dogzilla) A Knife and Fork (Rockpile) Dog Food (Iggy Pop) Eggs & Sausage (Tom Waits) Whipped Cream (Herb Alpert) Green Onions (Booker T & the MG's) Banana (Joe "King" Carrasco) Beans & Corn Bread (Louis Jordan) Lime in the Coconut (Harry Nilsson) Savoy Truffle (the Beatles) Saturday Night Fish Fry (Louis Jordan) Vegetables (Beach Boys) Lady Marmalade (LaBelle) Roscoe's Chicken (Tapeheads soundtrack) Yummy Yummy (Ohio Express) Chewy Chewy (Ohio Express) Cherry Cherry (Neil Diamond) Hot Biscuits and Sweet Marie (NRBQ) Valerie (Richard Thompson) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) Poke Salad Date: 12 Jan 2001 17:31:56 -0600 Tony Jo White...that's who did it. Thanks! colleenintexas Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) Laugh songs Date: 12 Jan 2001 17:43:42 -0600 Does anyone remember a song by Steve Allen where he's trying to play the trumptet and he's so bad that he laughs all the way through it? I've been trying to find that. colleenintexas Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "byost" Subject: (exotica) Re: Food songs Date: 12 Jan 2001 19:07:46 -0500 I don't think anyone has mentioned my favorite food song, from the funk genre: "I've Got the Munchies for your Love" by Bootsy Collins. T-A-S-T-Y !! -- Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) please identify this sample Date: 12 Jan 2001 21:17:18 -0500 J o h n wrote: > I think I know what you mean. I picked up The Fez File > Vol 1. on Schema Records. Some of the artists on it > include The Karminsky Experience, Ursula 1000 , and > Cinematic Orchestra. > > Can anyone on the list reccommend any Karminsky > Experience stuff? I would recommend all of it - except they haven't exactly put out a lot of their own music. There's one 12" (Exploration), which can also be found on a Thievery CD, and quite a few remixes (including one for Ursula 1000, which I've never been able to find a copy of). They have put together four excellent compilations, though, on the Decca/Deram label - "Dig It", "Espresso Espresso", "Inflight Entertainment" and "Further Inflight Entertainment". (I don't think "Dig It" is in print anymore, but the other three show up from time to time at Dusty Groove) I pretty much buy anything I see with their name on it - I've yet to be disappointed. And I'm assuming you already have both of Ursula 1000's CDs? If not, you should! ("The Now Sound Of..." and the mix CD "All Systems Are Go-Go") cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) just a test - please ignore Date: 13 Jan 2001 00:10:15 -0500 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Problems posting to list? Date: 13 Jan 2001 00:32:14 -0500 Has anyone else had problems posting to the list? Brian has been trying to post something - he's tried four times, and it doesn't go through. I tried too, and it still won't post. Nothing odd or offensive in the posting, so we can't figure out what the problem is. Other messages have been going through fine, so it seems to be isolated to one particular message - any ideas as to why? Laszlo, can you figure out what the problem is? puzzled, cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Problems posting to list? Date: 12 Jan 2001 21:50:20 -0800 At 12:32 AM 13-01-01 -0500, you wrote: >Has anyone else had problems posting to the list? This has happened to me before. I re-edited my message several times, made sure I didn't quote anyone extensively, altered the email address to the "new" address and when that didn't work started removing passages from what I wrote which I thought MAY make a screening program trash it. I finally got it through...but have no idea what made the difference, if anything. I would like to know if there is any automatic screening beyond the simple "extensive quoting" deal (which I wholeheartedly welcome...who needs to see entire messages repeated!). Just need to know so I can avoid saying the wrong thing! Byron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Problems posting to list? Date: 13 Jan 2001 01:43:52 -0500 At 12:32 AM 1/13/01 -0500, cheryl wrote: > >Has anyone else had problems posting to the list? Brian has been trying >to post something - he's tried four times, and it doesn't go through. I >tried too, and it still won't post. Nothing odd or offensive in the >posting, That's the problem, see? We're tired of the fact that neither you nor Brian ever post anything odd or offensive so we had a meeting and you're out. Sorry. We'll reconsider if you tell me to fuck off. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obit] Luiz Bonfa Date: 13 Jan 2001 02:21:44 -0500 http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010112/en/people-bonfa_1.html http://www.luiz.bonfa.nom.br/ http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=B3223 http://allmovie.com/cg/x.dll?p=avg&sql=BP158625 http://www.google.com/search?q=%22luiz+bonfa%22 Friday January 12 8:48 PM ET Brazil bossa nova founder Bonfa dies at 78 RIO DE JANEIRO (Reuters) - Brazilian guitarist and composer Luis Bonfa, a founder of the ``bossa nova'' music style, died on Friday of cancer in his home city of Rio de Janeiro, aged 78, local media reported on Friday. Bonfa, who composed more than 500 songs in a career spanning four decades, was perhaps best known for his 1962 piece ``Manha De Carnaval'' or ``Carnival Morning''. He died in hospital in the city where he was born in 1922, Globo TV said. His guitar music began to be heard in the 1950s and in 1956 he performed ``Orfeo da Conceicao,'' written by the legendary duo of Tom Jobim and Vinicius de Moraes, who composed ``The Girl from Ipanema.'' Bonfa shot to international fame with the soundtrack from ''Black Orpheus,'' a Franco-Brazilian production which won the Oscar for best foreign film in 1959 and helped give birth to Brazil's ``cinema novo'' movement. Bonfa made his last recording in 1996. Reuters/Variety # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "naile trismegistus" Subject: Re: (exotica) please identify this sample Date: 13 Jan 2001 09:29:48 -0000 > J o h n wrote: > The [Karminsky Experience] have > put together four excellent compilations, though, on the Decca/Deram > label - "Dig It", "Espresso Espresso", "Inflight Entertainment" and > "Further Inflight Entertainment". I have both Inflight Entertainment compilations, and they are astounding. Also, if anyone is ever in the neighborhood, the Karminsky Experience DJ every Saturday night at Blow Up here in London at The Wag. I haven't had a chance to go yet, but it looks like the evening is a lot of fun. Anyone been to it? Anyone interested in meeting up there one night? -Kev. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Problems posting to list? Date: 13 Jan 2001 11:43:45 +0100 cheryl schrieb: > Has anyone else had problems posting to the list? Brian has been trying > to post something - he's tried four times, and it doesn't go through. I > tried too, and it still won't post. Nothing odd or offensive in the > posting, so we can't figure out what the problem is. > Laszlo, can you figure out what the problem is? > > puzzled, > > cheryl > I'm really shocked. Are you seriously assuming that posting "something wrong" would lead to an elimination of your post? An ugly word comes to my mind: censorship. Is anyone in this list who thinks it's possible or even appropriate that this could happen? I'm not talking of someone who is constantly violating the rules; I'm talking about a single posting of a long-time member of this list... I don't thnink it's even possible that there's someone out there who reads all the stuff before it is posted and sorts out anything odd and offensive within seconds... very puzzled Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" Subject: (exotica) problems posting to the list Date: 13 Jan 2001 11:45:47 +0100 I too have problems posting to the list. My messages show up 3 or 4 days late - if they show up at all. New messages mostly do fine, but as soon as I reply to a previous message or if I want to send a cc to someone else things go wrong. Hope y'all get to read this one... Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" Subject: RE: (exotica) Problems posting to list? Date: 13 Jan 2001 11:47:16 +0100 Yes, I'm having problems too. Mostly when I reply to a previous message or when I cc it to to someone (like this message). Let's see if this shows up on the list. Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) problems posting to the list Date: 13 Jan 2001 12:12:23 +0100 Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek schrieb: > I too have problems posting to the list. My messages show up 3 or 4 days > late - if they show up at all. New messages mostly do fine, but as soon as I > reply to a previous message or if I want to send a cc to someone else things > go wrong. Yes we did, and apparently very soon. I'm had such problems when I changed my sender's email address. In another list - the popnouveau list - even restoring my initial email address didn't help and I can't post anymore at all. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bump Subject: Re: (exotica) [obits] Bryan Gregory Date: 13 Jan 2001 09:00:11 -0500 >Bryan Gregory Now THAT was a look. Been missing him since 1978...RIP ****************************************************** ***************************** ************* DJ Bump "Primitive Rhythms for Evolved Minds" Defective Records-Executive Producer bump@defectiverecords.com http://www.defectiverecords.com "Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bump Subject: Re: (exotica) Laugh/Eat Date: 13 Jan 2001 09:09:53 -0500 Laughing at Me - Alice Cooper and an AM flashback flies thru my head that says "Laughter in the Rain" but i couldn't tell you who. >>Hi everyone! You've been a real help to me when I'm putting together >>segments for the segment I do on CBC here in Canada. The topic is >"laughing" >>records this Sat.Next month the topic is "food" related songs and spoken >>Any ideas? >>Brian Linds > >Here's a few: > >Laughing: >Laugh, Laugh (Beau Brummels) >Laughing (the Guess Who) >Laughing Man (Adrian Belew) >Ha Ha Said the Clown (Yardbirds) >Laughing Song (the Residents) ****************************************************** ***************************** ************* DJ Bump "Primitive Rhythms for Evolved Minds" Defective Records-Executive Producer bump@defectiverecords.com http://www.defectiverecords.com "Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Mojo Club Dancefloor Jazz series Date: 13 Jan 2001 16:49:22 +0100 Speaking of Jazz... if I can dance to it - I like it. After all those years, I have to sing a song of praise on the Mojo Club Dancefloor Jazz series. I don't have all of them, which are currently 9. I have 1,2,3,5,6,7, and they are all good. The material reissued on them comes mostly from the 60s and 70s, more likely from the 70s though. To describe what it is, I'd say: It's jazz and it's the kind of music I like to dance to the most. The range of styles assembled on the Mojo compilations goes from classic funk jazz stars like Quincy Jones to lesser known people like Dave Pike or Wolfgang Dauner. Names you have heard somewhere sometime and think are OK, and suddenly you hear this one track by them on a Mojo compilation which is absolutely killer. Also in the mix: beautiful and groovy Brazil stuff, known and unknown - f.i. has anybody heard of "Bossa Rio"? It was the second Brazil act on A&M, produced by Sergio Mendez, and on Mojo Dancefloor 6 they appear with the amazing "Saiupa", which I would probably never have heard otherwise, things like that... the guys from Mojo even tracked down an unusually good piece by James Last (and that's really hard to do): "Bolero 75" and then there's the Equals, yes Eddy Grant's band, with a great track called "Funky like a Train"... Or how about Julie Driscoll? Jimmy Smith, Roy Ayers, Kenny Burrell, James Brown, Kool & the Gang, Grant Green, Brian Auger, Georgie Fame, Lee Dorsey, "Little" Stevie Wonder, Baden Powell, Cal Tjader, Bobby Bird, Roland Kirk, Fritz Pauer... And so on, you get the idea of a section of jazz which is the missing link to funk, disco and pop. I find the selections on these compilations absolutely enlightning and I can only recommend to keep an eye open for them, although I never find them on ebay, as apparently people who own them don't tend to sell them. The Mojo Club is a real club. It has been existing since 1989 as a dancefloor club with a seperate bar right on Hamburg's famous Reeperbahn, until some 7 years ago the owners and DJs started to publish the music they played on CDs, in collaboration with Polydor, later Motor, now Universal. So the stuff you hear on the CDs is tested on the dancefloor, fail-proof groove-guaranteed. They also go on tour with their program, do a radio show and last not least have a clothes shop, so they know how to promote their stuff. After the big success of the Dancefloor Jazz series they started other serieses as well, such as the Electric Mojo compilations and a couple of remix thingies etc. I haven't checked out all of these, but I'm quite sure that I like the original Dancefloor Jazz series the best. I have no idea of the availability in other countries, it was never very good with Universal, but maybe it's possible to order directly from the homepage. The homepage is http://www.mojo.de -Mo (Jo!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Risser Family" Subject: Re: (exotica) you might want to keep an eye out for these records... Date: 13 Jan 2001 12:04:48 -0500 I'm thinking, why not pay the cash for the record, rip it to a CD, then sell it again. I can't see you really losing much money on the deal, and then you'll have a nice digital copy you can play again and again and again. I've thought about it. Peter > But as for this particular example, I'm with Moritz; This buyer is surely > Japanese. I've always been suspicious that the reason I could never find a > lot of those records that were on my want list is that they are were bought > up by obsessive Japanese collectors, notorious for paying whatever it takes > to have whatever it is they need... And this was BEFORE ebay!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Mojo Club Dancefloor Jazz series Date: 13 Jan 2001 16:49:22 +0100 Speaking of Jazz... if I can dance to it - I like it. After all those years, I have to sing a song of praise on the Mojo Club Dancefloor Jazz series. I don't have all of them, which are currently 9. I have 1,2,3,5,6,7, and they are all good. The material reissued on them comes mostly from the 60s and 70s, more likely from the 70s though. To describe what it is, I'd say: It's jazz and it's the kind of music I like to dance to the most. The range of styles assembled on the Mojo compilations goes from classic funk jazz stars like Quincy Jones to lesser known people like Dave Pike or Wolfgang Dauner. Names you have heard somewhere sometime and think are OK, and suddenly you hear this one track by them on a Mojo compilation which is absolutely killer. Also in the mix: beautiful and groovy Brazil stuff, known and unknown - f.i. has anybody heard of "Bossa Rio"? It was the second Brazil act on A&M, produced by Sergio Mendez, and on Mojo Dancefloor 6 they appear with the amazing "Saiupa", which I would probably never have heard otherwise, things like that... the guys from Mojo even tracked down an unusually good piece by James Last (and that's really hard to do): "Bolero 75" and then there's the Equals, yes Eddy Grant's band, with a great track called "Funky like a Train"... Or how about Julie Driscoll? Jimmy Smith, Roy Ayers, Kenny Burrell, James Brown, Kool & the Gang, Grant Green, Brian Auger, Georgie Fame, Lee Dorsey, "Little" Stevie Wonder, Baden Powell, Cal Tjader, Bobby Bird, Roland Kirk, Fritz Pauer... And so on, you get the idea of a section of jazz which is the missing link to funk, disco and pop. I find the selections on these compilations absolutely enlightning and I can only recommend to keep an eye open for them, although I never find them on ebay, as apparently people who own them don't tend to sell them. The Mojo Club is a real club. It has been existing since 1989 as a dancefloor club with a seperate bar right on Hamburg's famous Reeperbahn, until some 7 years ago the owners and DJs started to publish the music they played on CDs, in collaboration with Polydor, later Motor, now Universal. So the stuff you hear on the CDs is tested on the dancefloor, fail-proof groove-guaranteed. They also go on tour with their program, do a radio show and last not least have a clothes shop, so they know how to promote their stuff. After the big success of the Dancefloor Jazz series they started other serieses as well, such as the Electric Mojo compilations and a couple of remix thingies etc. I haven't checked out all of these, but I'm quite sure that I like the original Dancefloor Jazz series the best. I have no idea of the availability in other countries, it was never very good with Universal, but maybe it's possible to order directly from the homepage. The homepage is http://www.mojo.de -Mo (Jo!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) Posting Date: 13 Jan 2001 11:52:49 -0600 AZ, I can't tell you how much I laugh at your posts!!!! colleenintexas Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) Laughter... Date: 13 Jan 2001 12:06:00 -0600 Hey Bump, That's Laughter in the Rain by Neil Sedaka. colleenintexas Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Laugh/Eat Date: 13 Jan 2001 14:09:13 EST In a message dated 1/13/1 9:16:26 AM, bumpy@megsinet.net wrote: >an AM flashback flies thru my head >that says "Laughter in the Rain" but i couldn't tell you who. Neil Sedaka, who probably wrote it too...but you REALLY have to hear the over the top 1975 soul version by Ace Spectrum..opens with crackling thunder and whooooosh of a sudden pouring rain..then the harmony parts...has to be heard # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Mojo Club Dancefloor Jazz series Date: 13 Jan 2001 14:10:38 EST In a message dated 1/13/1 11:24:47 AM, moritz@derplan.com wrote: >has anybody heard of "Bossa Rio"? It was the second Brazil act on A&M, >produced by Sergio Mendes no, but thanks for the tip...JB/on an A&M jag lately # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) you might want to keep an eye out for these records... Date: 13 Jan 2001 14:18:42 EST In a message dated 1/13/1 12:05:20 PM, risser@cinci.rr.com wrote: >a lot of those records that were on my want list is that they are were >bought up by obsessive Japanese collectors, notorious for paying whatever it >takes to have whatever it is they need... And this was BEFORE ebay!!! The story of Eddie B comes to mind. Eddie is a 45 soul record dealer (by appointment only) here in Boston. Normally he would sell rare 45's he scored from filthy and long forgotten "warehouses" for between $3.00 and $15.00 back in the mid-80's. UNTIL the Japanese collectors came along. These guys would easily fork over $200 for a 45 by Tomorrow's Promise that MIGHT get $15 here. Needless to say, the Japanese cleaned up ALL of Eddie's substantial gambling debts and netted him many lids of slammin' weed as well...Now the Japanese are making music that many of us want. The passage of time tells the stories best, eh?..JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chuck Collazzi Subject: (exotica) Bossa Rio Date: 13 Jan 2001 12:37:06 -0800 They made some great lps: Alegria Blue Thumb BTS-17 Bossa Rio A&M SP-4191 Similar sultry/ballsy style to Brasil 66, less Americanized, slightly different instrumentation (organ, maybe was Walter Wanderley? Foggy on the details, I recently relocated to L.A., still getting organized...I've got these LPs......somewhere). Produced by Sergio Mendes, who also put out an album or 2 under the same name...... Cheers, Chuck Collazzi Vinyl Plus Music Exchange 16250 Ventura Blvd Suite !65 Encino, California 91436 http://ChuckTFrog.com ChuckLPs@pacbell.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Casa Nostra" 1.12.01 Date: 13 Jan 2001 15:59:47 EST "Casa Nostra"airs on 88.1FM WMBR, Cambridge, MA at M.I.T. Fridays at Midnight "Casa Nostra" features Loungecore/Breakbeat/EZHouse/Exotica/SABPM/Soft Rock from the Age of Space to the Age of Bass "Casa Nostra" streams in Real Audio: http://wmbr.mit.edu click on the listen link "Casa Nostra" is produced, programmed and hosted by James Botticelli Can 7-Cruisin'-Beach House Comp. Jimmie Haskell-I'll Take Sweden-OST I'll Take Sweden Zuco-Outro Lado Ferrante & Teicher-Oh! Calcutta DJ Me DJ You-Glassong-Emperor Norton Sampler Bob & Phil Orchestra-Baubles, Bangles, and Beads-Hot Line For Sound Tate's Place-Burnin'-Jazzanova Remixes '97-'00 Shirley Bassey-Light My Fire-The Remixes Ennio Morricone-Belinda May-Morricone 2001 Sunny Face-Rainy Boo-Ga-Loo-Temptation Claus Ogerman-Its Not Unusual-Watusi Trumpets Sophia Loren-Soldi Soldi Soldi-Boccaccio '70 Michael Airhart-Shapes From Da Windy City-12" Henry Mancini-It Had Better Be Tonight (instrumental)-OST Pink Panther Domenic Fronteire-House of Dawn-Pagan Festival Enoch Light-Rain In My Heart-Glittering Guitars Lord Sitar-If I Were A Rich Man-Bass-ic Hip comp Vinnie Bell-More-Pop Goes The Electric Sitar Balanco-More Take Rodriguez-Club Eroticana-(thanks Brian and Cheryl) Creed Taylor Orchestra-Lonesome Ol' Town-Lonelyville Buddy Morrow Orchestra-San Francisco Blues-Double Impact Peter Thomas-Theme From Perry Rhodan-Remix Yoshinori Sunahara-Journey Beyond The Stars-Takeoff And Landing A VISIT TO THE SOFT-ROCK CAFE FOR THE FINAL SET Gentle People-Groovin' With You Nick DeCaro-I'm Gonna Make You Love Me-Happy Heart (A&M) Small Circle Of Friends-Don't Take Your Time-(A&M) Free Design-Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head Paul Williams-We've Only Just Begun-(A&M) Nick DeCaro-Under The Jamaican Moon-Italian Graffiti (A&M) Roger Nichols-Our Day Will Come (A&M) Dells-One Less Bell To Answer Thanks For Reading # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) George Fields and Dave Pell Date: 13 Jan 2001 13:45:51 -0800 An album called Harmonica Favorites, Tops L1665, should be investigated by anyone who enjoys Bob Thompson or Juan Esquivel. Although George Fields, his Orchestra and Chorus don't have the numbers of instruments as what RCA could allow, the arrangements are definitely of the same calibre. The harmonica usually carries the melody, but percussion accents, bass and do-do-dos from male and female choruses add the greatness. This David Pell production was recorded well and, unusual for a budget label, was pressed into vinyl nicely...so a "near mint" record sounds great. The selections have provocative titles: Hot Canary, Pizzaria, Left Bank Louie, Lover Man, Helter Skelter to name several of the 12 cuts. Of course, many people would buy this LP for the cover...five harmonicas in a closeup shot with a "miniature" buxom woman in high heels, short shorts and sleeveless v-necked blouse sitting or laying on the harmonicas. I see this album offered occasionally on ebay, but I was lucky to find this copy in such excellent condition for only 6 dollars in a Mt. Vernon, Washington store (no postage required!). Frankly, I was surprised as to the calibre of quality in the music and was just glad to get it for the cover and maybe a couple of good cuts...but instead found the whole thing worthy of praise. I wonder if all Dave Pell productions on the Tops label would merit investigation as well. Byron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Dean Subject: Re: (exotica) FOOD (again!) Date: 13 Jan 2001 16:19:38 -0600 and . . . Creamy Mashed Potatoes by Duane Eddy. (It's on Dance With The Guitar Man, and it rocks!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Mojo Club Dancefloor Jazz series Date: 13 Jan 2001 17:42:43 -0500 I just got the Mojo Club Remix album, and it's very good - I recommend it highly! It's music from the Mojo Club jazz series, remixed by various artists - everything from Maxwell Implosion remixing Baden Powell to Paolo Scotti remixing James Last to Nightmares on Wax remixing Quincy Jones. Volume two of the Remix series is due out anytime now, and all the Mojo stuff can be ordered from Dusty Groove (when it's in stock). Must play more of this on Space Bop.... Another outstanding recent acquisition is "Virtual Brazilia - Two Plates Of Modern Dancefloor Jazz" (on Cosmic Flux Musiq, out of San Francisco) which is two CDs of Brazilian-inspired, well, dancefloor jazz, I guess (sort of like that new type of music that AZ is trying to describe - by the way, AZ, I love it when you talk dirty ;-) (This one is also available at Dusty Groove, and should be fairly easy to find otherwise, unlike the Mojo Club, which are impossible to find in Canada) cheryl Moritz R wrote: > > Speaking of Jazz... if I can dance to it - I like it. > > After all those years, I have to sing a song of praise on the Mojo Club > Dancefloor Jazz series. I don't have all of them, which are currently 9. > I have 1,2,3,5,6,7, and they are all good. The material reissued on them > comes mostly from the 60s and 70s, more likely from the 70s though. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Posting Date: 13 Jan 2001 17:51:14 -0500 At 11:52 AM 1/13/01 -0600, Colleen Pyles wrote: > >AZ, I can't tell you how much I laugh at your posts!!!! > >colleenintexas Laugh AT or laugh WITH? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) you might want to keep an eye out for these Date: 13 Jan 2001 18:10:22 -0500 At 02:18 PM 1/13/01 EST, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > >The story of Eddie B comes to mind. Eddie is a 45 soul record dealer (by >appointment only) here in Boston. No. Eddie B. is a blues collector here in Toronto. I guess it must be a popular name for major collectors. > UNTIL the Japanese collectors came along. These guys would >easily fork over $200 for a 45 by Tomorrow's Promise that MIGHT get $15 here. Which brings us to an interesting question. I see guys in nice clothes at the used record store and they scoop up whatever they want and pay whatever it costs. People say "$100 to them is like $5 to you" because they have twenty times mroe money. I often wonder if this is true. IF I were rich - which I guess I can give up on at this point - would that completely change my concepts of what I will pay for a record? Any rich people here care to out themselves and comment? I always say that even if I were rich, I would be put off by those high collectors prices. Just because you're rich doesn't mean you want to get ripped off. In fact, some people say that's HOW you get rich, by watching your pennies etc. But lately, as I've seen myself buy all these records on ebay, I've started to see that if I could actually afford what I've been doing for the last couple of months - and which I'm pretty sure I've stopped doing - I'd be grabbing up nice pieces hand over fist. I'd certainly have all the Free Design LP's that I keep giving up on. I lose them because there's always someone willing to put in a high maximum bid. If I could throw caution to the wind and put $100 as my maximum, I might get them. If I had enough money to say "It won't go as high as 100 but if it does, it won't kill me....". (In my experience this happens more consistently with Free Design than anything else with the exception of a couple of soundtracks I want, like "Enter the Dragon" and "Hawaii Five Oh".) On the other hand, for some people, finding it at a reasonable - or even a cheap - price is an inseparable part of collecting. They can't appreciate the find without getting a "bargain". So what is it about the Japanese culture that so many of its collectors are willing to pay the huge dollars? If you think about it, they've kind of ruined collecting in lots of ways. The record store owner puts a record on the wall for $100 and you see it there for a couple of months and finally offer him $50. Once upon a time he would have taken it. (Once upon a time he would have put it out for $25) But now he says "No, someone will buy it", confident that a Japanese collector - or someone who deals with them - will eventually come in and grab it, knowing that Japanese will pay double that. Yeah they've got better records than me but I've got pretty good records for someone living below the poverty line!!! So there! AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) you might want to keep an eye out for theserecords... Date: 14 Jan 2001 01:03:22 +0100 alan zweig schrieb: > IF I were rich - which I guess I can give up on at this point - would that > completely change my concepts of what I will pay for a record? YES > Just because you're rich doesn't mean you want to get ripped off. time is money, my friend > In fact, some people say that's HOW you get rich, by watching your pennies etc. it's a lie > So what is it about the Japanese culture that so many of its collectors are > willing to pay the huge dollars? If you think about it, they've kind of > ruined collecting in lots of ways. The record store owner puts a record on > the wall for $100 and you see it there for a couple of months and finally > offer him $50. Once upon a time he would have taken it. (Once upon a time > he would have put it out for $25) But now he says "No, someone will buy > it", confident that a Japanese collector - or someone who deals with them - > will eventually come in and grab it, knowing that Japanese will pay double > that. computers changed the world. > Yeah they've got better records than me no Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicola Battista Subject: (exotica) free Segovia mp3s on Ampcast Date: 14 Jan 2001 01:53:40 +0100 I don't know how many ppl in here might like the guy and classical guitar stuff... anyway this is to inform you that since mp3.com is still censoring these tracks I had to move them to Ampcast (where they were approved and published instantly). http://www.ampcast.com/segovia enjoy, Nicola DjB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicola Battista Subject: (exotica) free Segovia mp3s on Ampcast Date: 14 Jan 2001 01:53:40 +0100 I don't know how many ppl in here might like the guy and classical guitar stuff... anyway this is to inform you that since mp3.com is still censoring these tracks I had to move them to Ampcast (where they were approved and published instantly). http://www.ampcast.com/segovia enjoy, Nicola DjB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, January 14 Date: 13 Jan 2001 21:04:11 -0500 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #125 "Krimi" - Music From German Crime Films "Krimis" is the term used to refer to this style of film, whose soundtracks mix exotica, beats, jazz & swing to create the mood... Gert Wilden: Rolf Torring "I Told You Not To Cry" Peter Thomas: Zimmer 13 "Peter Thomas - Kriminalfilmmusik" Martin Bottcher: Die blaue Hand "Kriminalfilmmusik - Martin Bottcher Vol 2" Rolf Wilhelm: Scotland Yard jagt Dr. Mabuse "Kriminalfilmmusik No 4" Martin Bottcher: Das Gasthaus an der Themse "Kriminalfilmmusik - Martin Bottcher" Martin Bottcher: Die Diamantenholle am Mekong "Kriminalfilmmusik - Martin Bottcher Vol 2" Peter Thomas: Das Geheimnis der weissen Nonne "Peter Thomas - Kriminalfilmmusik" Peter Sandloff: Im Stahlnetz des Dr. Mabuse "Kriminalfilmmusik No 4" Gert Wilden: Murder Beat "I Told You Not To Cry" Gert Wilden: Green Spider Theme "I Told You Not To Cry" Gert Wilden: Gaslight Mood "I Told You Not To Cry" Gert Wilden: Beware "I Told You Not To Cry" Thanks for reading, and thanks for listening. cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) you might want to keep an eye out for these records... Date: 13 Jan 2001 23:27:47 EST In a message dated 1/13/1 6:09:45 PM, azed@pathcom.com wrote: >I see guys in nice clothes at >the used record store and they scoop up whatever they want and pay whatever >it costs. People say "$100 to them is like $5 to you" because they have >twenty times mroe money. I often wonder if this is true. IF I were rich - >which I guess I can give up on at this point - would that completely change >my concepts of what I will pay for a record? Any rich people here care to >out themselves and comment? Well, I'm not rich, but...I have a steady and relatively comfortable income. My wife works and has a steady and relatively comfortable income. Other life circumstances have allowed us a few extra dollars monthly. I am prepaying an extra $250 on my mortgage which because I took it out a few years ago (on my third home) and had a nice down payment based on profit taken from my first two homes, is relatively small by local (Boston) standards). This all allows my pay raises to become more disposable due to fixed lifestyle costs. SO, what do I want materially? I like nice threads, but don't splurge on them. I like nice cars, but an 85% inefficient internal combustion engine does the same thing regardless of the metallic frame its wrapped in. So what do I "waste" money on? REKKIDS. Buck for buck, they give me more pleasure than almost any drug and certainly more than visible status cymbals...So am I rich? No. But due to longevity on the planeterium and a couple of good maneuvers real estate-wise, I have a bit of disposable income to splurge. So I do. On rekkids. Usually. And I like it...JB/still trying to end a post like Alan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HEDCANDY@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: FOOD TUNES Date: 13 Jan 2001 23:56:40 EST Bread & Butter - DEVO (9 1/2 Weeks soundtrack) Milky Cereal - LL Cool J (a very humorous song) and as an end song... PLOP PLOP FIZZ FIZZ - Sammi Davis Jr. from album of same name # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Basic Hip" Subject: Re: (exotica) you might want to keep an eye out for these records... Date: 13 Jan 2001 22:15:52 -0800 <> I definitely ain't rich, but I love music and collecting RECORDS, so pinching pennies in an area where I gain so much pleasure doesn't make any sense to me at all. Heck, I can't even fill up my gas tank for twenty bucks, so how does $20 for a record all of a sudden become alot of money? Chances are the "I never spend more than five dollars on a record" crowd are blowing their cash on something else, anyway. All those cocktails at the club must add up, don't they? ;) More power to 'em - and to me as I'm off to the KUSF record swap tomorrow to spend lots more of my hard earned money on records. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) Re: Luis Bonfa Date: 14 Jan 2001 01:18:32 -0800 That's so sad about Bonfa. Ironically I just spun some of his music on Thursday, and reflected on how I should listen to more of it. Food songs: every song but three on Whipped Cream and Other Delights is about food or food related, unless you want to consider Love Potion No. 9 a food item. Unlucky --- Mr. Unlucky presents Shoot To Kill, a weekly set of jazz, soundtrack music, and Now Sound, on Supersphere.com, Thursdays 1-2 p.m. (CST). http://www.supersphere.com Get your small business started at Lycos Small Business at http://www.lycos.com/business/mail.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Ekkoleg original cover Date: 14 Jan 2001 11:10:03 +0100 For those interested in this mysterious song - here is the original single cover of Grethe Agatz's "Ekkoleg" http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Moritz.Reichelt/ekkoleg.html Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Karasick Subject: Re: (exotica) Problems posting to list? Date: 14 Jan 2001 10:39:31 -0500 AZ wrote: > That's the problem, see? We're tired of the fact that neither you nor > Brian ever post anything odd or offensive so we had a meeting and you're > out. Sorry. We'll reconsider if you tell me to fuck off. So that's why I couldn't get that message through! I must have politely used the f**k abbreviation instead!!! Just doesn't pay to be polite I guess... Seriously though, I had a question in it that mail I needed help with, about a film clip I saw on AMC while in Florida. There is this series they run on on AMC called American Pop and I saw a clip with the credits "Nino Tempo & April Stevens, Land of 1000 dances, Scopitones, 1966" I suspect it was from the film "Winter a Go-Go" which was on the week before but I couldn't find any reference to them or the film that confirmed it. Any experts out there? Also I saw a clip from the Monkees film "Head" that looked worthwhile, and its available on DVD. Best of all I noticed all the Annette "Beach" films out on DVD as Blockbuster had them! Amazon sells them for US$14 each. > So what is it about the Japanese culture that so many of its collectors are > willing to pay the huge dollars? If you think about it, they've kind of > ruined collecting in lots of ways. I've never actually met a Japanese collector so I may just be propagating the urban legends that I heard mostly from dealers that say its the obsession to have to have everything at any cost that is what makes Japanese collector unique. The reason I got to worry is a lot of the stuff I was looking for over the last decades seemed to be popular in Japan, especially the quirky electronics stuff, so I just had to assume that this was true and explained why I wasn't able to easily find things here. But I have to agree with Jimmy B in wishing more Japanese product were available here. There is so much reissued only in Japan I would have wanted and a lot of Japanese artists doing the same quirky things I always used to buy and still to this day look out for. Look at Take Rodriguez and his Exotic Arkestra... only place I ever even saw them was in a store in Paris whose owner was an obsessive fan of Japanese music. Now I wish we had one of those here! Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "naile trismegistus" Subject: (exotica) more eBay and a question... Date: 14 Jan 2001 19:20:27 -0000 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=542115086& r=0&t=0 Okay, I'm dead curious now. Chrysler IN-CAR RECORD PLAYER?? Anyone have a picture of one of these?? The record is described as "scuffed". I can only imagine so... any bump on the road, and the needle must've been all over the place. -Kev. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "naile trismegistus" Subject: Re: (exotica) more eBay and a question... Date: 14 Jan 2001 19:25:49 -0000 Okay, now I found a player up for auction too.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=540468134& r=0&t=0 currently at $636, and 3 days to go. wow. anybody else run into one of these? -Kev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Never Mind the Jazz, Here's the Pelvis (and a Head) Date: 14 Jan 2001 15:50:45 -0500 In case you missed the hype, Monday night at 8:00pm and Midnight (eastern), TCM is airing a 'special edition' of "Elvis: That's The Way It Is" -- a mighty fine concert documentary from 1970. The unused footage and multi-track audio tapes were all still intact, so major changes were made. Interviews with staffers and fans were cut, and 4 songs were added. The emphasis is supposed to be much more on Elvis, the band and the music, rather than the audience and Vegas spectacle. For better or worse. We'll see. The work was done by the same guy who did the recent overhauls on "Touch Of Evil" and "Greed", so he has a good resume, at least. :::::::::::: Someone asked about The Monkees' movie, "Head"? I dig it. It's like a really weird episode of their TV show run through a shredder along with a copy of the Tibetan Book Of The Dead. Or something like that. But then I have a weakness for non-linear movies. Watch for cameos by the likes of Victor Mature, Annette Funicello and Frank Zappa. And a blast of a performance by elemental character actor, Timothy Carey. Co-written by Jack Nicholson, o' course. I think he gets his snoot in there for a second too. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) more eBay and a question... Date: 14 Jan 2001 15:56:27 -0500 >Okay, I'm dead curious now. Chrysler IN-CAR RECORD PLAYER?? > >Anyone have a picture of one of these?? > >The record is described as "scuffed". I can only imagine so... any bump on >the road, and the needle must've been all over the place. Heh heh. Come into my parlor, said the spider to the fly. Get the story on Highway Hi-Fi here: http://ookworld.com/hiwayhifi.html Photos, historic documents, links, etc. And no, I don't have one. I don't have any of the records. I have seen some of the records in mint condition and they really look cool. Spiffy label design and the super-fine grooves really look different. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Citizen Kafka Subject: (exotica) roots of exotica Date: 14 Jan 2001 16:30:32 -0500 Hi, all, i've not been able to participate in the ring or the list for a while... My station just archived our Secret Museum show on the Roots of Exotica: http://archive.wfmu.org/archive/SM/sm010109.ram enjoy, and have a healthy, and happy and prosperous new year. take care, citizen kafka -- Listen ANY TIME at: http://www.citizenkafka.com/sma/sound/soundmain.html Citizen Kafka, Producer, "The Secret Museum of the Air" every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM http://wfmu.org/ then go to 'listen to wfmu' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Happy 83rd, Sr. Esquivel! Date: 14 Jan 2001 17:39:57 -0500 I'm passing along this request from our Ol' Pal Irwin. Spread the word! Lou * * * * Thursday Jan. 18 will be the 83rd birthday of Juan Garcia Esquivel, who lives in Mexico. Though bedridden with a spinal injury for the past decade, Sr. Esquivel remains proud of his lifetime's musical legacy, and has been delighted by the worldwide resurgence of interest in his work over the past seven years. If anyone would like to send personal birthday greetings to Sr. Esquivel, email your text (no graphics, please) to the following address: irwin@wfmu.org I will fax all such salutations to Juan at his home on Thursday. Regards, Irwin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jim gerwitz" Subject: (exotica) Rah-Sun Date: 14 Jan 2001 17:08:00 -0800 AZ wrote: Only two? Try three and a nose flute too. Saw him live in small clubs about half a dozen times, and whew!! There is a video of Kirk live at Montreaux where he breaks up a chair in the middle of a tune, obviously too outre for "Jazz." And what could they do with the likes of iridescent-robed Sun Ra, who took his jazz to outer space and brought something else back. Let someone else tell their story another time, there is indeed much to be told. Meanwhile I'll tape and watch Burns at my leisure, using the fast forward button as needed. I've enjoyed the snippets I've watched so far - as Levon Helm sang - "take what you need and leave the rest." Jim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: Re: (exotica) please identify this sample/ Karminsky Experience Date: 15 Jan 2001 03:13:39 +0100 (MET) Don’t forget their second outstanding 12" the HIP SHEIK E.P. where they use a sample from Sonny Lester’s How to Belly-Dance for your Husband LP I really wish more people would try to make new tracks in this quality with oriental influences There fantastic sitar track EXPLORATION is also on the outstanding BLOW UP A-GO-GO! Compilation ( not to be mixed up with the three Volumes called Blow Up, Exclusive Blend Vol 1-3 ) Martin >J o h n wrote: > >Can anyone on the list reccommend any Karminsky >Experience stuff? -- visit the ***Space Escapade*** Exotic Club Pop Entertainment with Guests and the Lemon Squeezer Sound System at the Atomic Cafe, Neuturmstr. 5, Munich, every Tuesday Night http://www.atomic.de/ Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: RE(exotica) Mojo Club Dancefloor Jazz series Date: 15 Jan 2001 03:16:52 +0100 (MET) What they chose for there comps is the same stuff that you find now on most of the MOOD MOSAIC comps. Just with another packing image. Not every cut is strictly only jazzy. There are also pure funk cuts to find or even a beat pop track is on vol 8 (the french Black is Black) I still don’t like the pseudo sophisticated image that they created, but I have a big respect for there work, because they really managed to sell high quality timeless soulfull dance music to a bigger audience in germany where these comps are well known. Martin >Speaking of Jazz... if I can dance to it - I like it. >After all those years, I have to sing a song of praise on the Mojo Club >Dancefloor Jazz series. I don't have all of them, which are currently 9. >I have 1,2,3,5,6,7, and they are all good. The material reissued on them >comes mostly from the 60s and 70s, more likely from the 70s though. -- visit the ***Space Escapade*** Exotic Club Pop Entertainment with Guests and the Lemon Squeezer Sound System at the Atomic Cafe, Neuturmstr. 5, Munich, every Tuesday Night http://www.atomic.de/ Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Irwin Chusid/Raymond Scott Archives" Subject: (exotica) Raymond Scott Orchestrette in NYC 1/19 Date: 14 Jan 2001 21:54:30 -0500 if you live in New York or plan to visit this week.... The RAYMOND SCOTT Orchestrette at FEZ - Friday, JAN. 19 The Raymond Scott Orchestrette, which performs modernistic arrangements of Raymond Scott tunes, appears at Fez in Manhattan on Friday, Jan. 19. In addition to well-known works from Scott's legendary Quintette period, the 7-piece Orchestrette performs acoustic arrangements of several of Scott's electronic works. Doors open 10:00 pm / showtime 10:30 pm FEZ, 380 Lafayette Street (under Time Cafe), NYC reservations: 212-533-2680 The Raymond Scott Orchestrette: Brian Dewan (electric zither and accordion) Michael Hashim (sax) Will Holshouser (accordion) Deidre Rodman (piano) George Rush (bass) Rob Thomas (violin) Clem Waldmann (drums). Special cameo guest vocalists David Garland Beth Sorrentino ------- The Raymond Scott Archives: http://RaymondScott.com Fez info: http://www.feznyc.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hagar@mindspring.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Problems posting to list? Date: 15 Jan 2001 06:44:22 -0500 I saw on AMC while in Florida. There is this series they run on on AMC called American Pop and I saw a clip with the credits "Nino Tempo & April Stevens, Land of 1000 dances, Scopitones, 1966" I suspect it was from the film "Winter a Go-Go" which was on the week before but I couldn't find any reference to them or the film that confirmed it. Any experts out there? No, it is actually from one of the many short films called Scopitones. A Scopitone was a sort of jukebox that showed films, as opposed to playing records. The few that I have seen are rather nice in their campy staging. AMC has shown a Gary Lewis and the Playboys clip, "The Night has a Thousand Eyes" by Bobby Vee and I believe one Nacny Sinatra clip. At the Broadcasting Museum, I saw an unidentified band playing "The Chunga Twist". I believe that Scopitones were based in France, so many of the clips are of French stars. I would LOVE to find a collection of these on video. I would enjoy seeing Jacques Dutronc in action. Things go better with Scopitone, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Mojo Club Dancefloor Jazz series Date: 15 Jan 2001 12:58:08 +0100 cheryl schrieb: > > (This one is also available at Dusty Groove, and should be fairly easy > to find otherwise, unlike the Mojo Club, which are impossible to find in > Canada) I talked to Christian Kellersmann of Universal about their distribution on the north american continent - and he insisted that Dusty Groove carries their productions. What is Dusty Groove anyway? A shop? A mailorder? A wholesaler? -Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: (exotica) [uk tv] The shape of things that hum Date: 15 Jan 2001 12:06:06 +0000 Listers in the UK might want to catch a series of 10 minute programs on Sunday nights (1.30am though!) about synths. Last night's was about Moogs. Haven't watched the tape yet, but I'm sure they could have easily made a series of 30 min or 1 hr programs about synths. Oh well... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Mojo Club Dancefloor Jazz series Date: 15 Jan 2001 09:17:05 -0500 Dusty Groove is one of the few places that does carry these - it's a mailorder operation (with a tiny store) in Chicago - they ship everywhere, and their prices are great (http://www.dustygroove.com). Ordering from them is the only way I can find a lot of these titles, as there is no one distributing them in Canada (and often, even if there is, the prices are still way cheaper when I order from DG, even with duties and taxes). cheryl (a Dusty Groove addict) Moritz R wrote: > > I talked to Christian Kellersmann of Universal about their distribution on the > north american continent - and he insisted that Dusty Groove carries their > productions. What is Dusty Groove anyway? A shop? A mailorder? A wholesaler? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) tom Tyler Date: 15 Jan 2001 09:19:26 -0500 >Also I see that there are 4 or 5 new Bossa Compilations out very lurid >covers, can't remember the names, does anyone have comments? Cleve? I saw a couple for the first time in NYC this past weekend. Haven't heard them, although they did look rather interesting. Figured I'd check around my hometown where the tax is less and I might get a discount. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) please identify this sample Date: 15 Jan 2001 09:49:21 -0500 >> Can anyone on the list reccommend any Karminsky >> Experience stuff? Cheryl got most of 'em - "The Hip Sheik" is there second single. They're newest remix is the Tim "Love" Lee single "One Night Samba", which came out last month of Tummy Touch. They've remixed Ursula 1000, Armando Trovajoli (Sessomato), The Gentle People (Japanese only release). They DJ a party called Blow Up in London on Saturday nights. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Mojo Club Dancefloor Jazz series Date: 15 Jan 2001 19:02:59 +0100 cheryl schrieb: > Dusty Groove is one of the few places that does carry these - it's a > mailorder operation (with a tiny store) in Chicago - they ship > everywhere, and their prices are great (http://www.dustygroove.com). aha. and here I found the Mojo compilations... I must have misunderstood you. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: atrecordings.com Date: 15 Jan 2001 16:55:42 +0100 the ".RAM" file is just a text file pointing to the URL of the actual audio file, which has a ".RA" suffix. but if you download that RAM file, you can extract the RA URL, and download that to your local drive. Johan ----- >From: nytab@pipeline.com >Can you right-click on the link and "save as" the .ram file to your >local drive and play it from there? That way (if this idea works) >you won't have to worry about network congestion while listening to >the file. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Future Jazz Date: 15 Jan 2001 17:00:45 +0100 a recent Future Jazz comp, featuring Cinematic Orchestra, is "Findomestic Jazz Experience vol.2" on Right Tempo 004, from Italy i'm listening to it now, and don't quite like all of it, The Cinematic Orchestra and Frederic Galliano are my favorite tunes, the rest is more "ambient dub and triphop" than jazzy... Johan ----- >From: alan zweig >BTW I have identified an electronica genre that I almost consistently like. >Some people probably call it "Future Jazz" but not all the stuff in the >future jazz section fits in with this stuff. >I'd call it "Alice Coltrane-ica" or "slowjazz" or "jazz dub fusion". > >The Cinematic Orchestra is part of it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) West Coast Jazz Date: 15 Jan 2001 14:18:21 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:02:42 -0800 (PST) >From: Jane Fondle >Subject: (exotica) jazz, agane > >Does anybody know if in the doc. will be included the >unholy genre of, ahem, WEST COAST JAZZ? From what I've been told by folks who have the set on tape, West Coast Jazz gets a grand total of about ten minutes. KEN BURNS'S jazz is definitely an east coast centric view. (It doesn't help that most of the major players in West coast jazz are white.) See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) West Coast Jazz Date: 15 Jan 2001 19:11:37 EST Speaking of jazz which will get short shrift I recently picked up some Mood Music For Moderns (Vibes division) getting Oscar Peterson's set with Milt Jackson, Very Tall, and Miles' Blue Moods (with Mingus, Elvin Jones and Teddy Charles on vibes). Both are perfect, mood setting beatnik jazz (on the rainy day side). The Miles record includes a gorgeous version of "Nature Boy" by exoticat Eden Ahbez. Other recent purchases Blow Up #3, and the very cool Pop Shopping (groovy German advertising music from 60s'/70s on Crippled Dick.) Also nabbed The Loser's Lounge CD (which I haven't heard yet) and the sdtrk to O, Brother Where Art Thou? which was stellar (just saw the movie - highly recommended): "A third of a gopher is only going to arouse my appetite without properly bedding it." --David << exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:02:42 -0800 (PST) >From: Jane Fondle >Subject: (exotica) jazz, agane > >Does anybody know if in the doc. will be included the >unholy genre of, ahem, WEST COAST JAZZ? From what I've been told by folks who have the set on tape, West Coast Jazz gets a grand total of about ten minutes. KEN BURNS'S jazz is definitely an east coast centric view. (It doesn't help that most of the major players in West coast jazz are white.) See ya Steve >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Happy 83rd Sr. Esquivel! (second try/corrected birthdate) Date: 16 Jan 2001 00:00:56 -0500 Speaking of posts never making it to the list, here's a correction to the first message that I tried to send yesterday, but which never made it to the list. Let's see what happens this time ... ls At 05:39 PM 1/14/01 -0500, I wrote: > >I'm passing along this request from our Ol' Pal Irwin. Spread the word! The first message had an incorrect birthdate for Sr. E! This one is correct. >* * * * > Friends: Saturday Jan. 20 will be the 83rd birthday of Juan Garcia Esquivel, who lives in Mexico. Though bedridden with a spinal injury for the past decade, Sr. Esquivel remains proud of his lifetime's musical legacy, and has been delighted by the worldwide resurgence of interest in his work over the past seven years. If anyone would like to send personal birthday greetings to Sr. Esquivel, email your text (no graphics, please) to the following address: irwin@wfmu.org I will fax all such salutations to Juan at his home on Saturday. Thanks, Irwin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: (exotica) Re: Future Jazz, F Galliano, Cinematic Orchestra and Metropolis Date: 16 Jan 2001 15:01:34 > > > a recent Future Jazz comp, featuring Cinematic Orchestra, is > "Findomestic Jazz Experience vol.2" on Right Tempo 004, from Italy > > i'm listening to it now, and don't quite like all of it, > The Cinematic Orchestra and Frederic Galliano are my > favorite tunes, the rest is more "ambient dub and triphop" > than jazzy... > Is this new Frederic Galliano stuff? I haven't seen anything new from him (apart from some rather difficult to find 12" and 10" and the next to impossible to get in Ireland Frikiwya stuff) in a couple of years. Did his new album slip out unnoticed by me? I wouldn't normally associate Galliano with the 'nu jazz' thing at all. Despite all the huge props the Cinematic Orchestra get they fit right in to that genre. Not that J Swinscoe isn't wonderful with a sampler and live instruments, just that what they are doing isn't that different from half a dozen other artists on the Ninja Tunes label, Amon Tobin included. Recent things I've heard from the Clifford Gilberto Rythm Combination are in my 'most improved' category, rather than J Swinscoe. Has anyone heard them playing to Metropolis? It's the second half of their live shows apparantly. I have Jeff Mills version which ranges from beautiful to sub Vangelis 'Blade Runner' territory. Oh, actually, now I think of it they do Vertov's 'Man with a movie camera'. Which is not such an interesting film but I'm sure they do a much better accompaniement than the one I saw last year done by 'in the nursery'. Confused, rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obit] Jack McVea Date: 16 Jan 2001 10:52:27 -0500 http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=B44882 http://www.google.com/search?q=Jack+McVea&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&btnG=Google+Search Jack McVea LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Jack McVea, a tenor saxophonist who wrote the 1947 novelty hit ``Open the Door, Richard,'' died Dec. 27 of cancer. He was 86. McVea learned to play the saxophone in high school. After finishing school, he worked at Los Angeles' Club Alabama, a jazz hotspot in the 1940s. McVea played baritone saxophone with the Lionel Hampton band in 1940, and led a band that played at the inaugural Jazz at the Philharmonic concert in Los Angeles in 1944. ``Open the Door, Richard'' brought McVea international attention in 1947 and ensured work for his band for several years. From the 1960s to 1992 he worked regularly at Disneyland, playing clarinet for the ``Royal Street Bachelors'' in the park's New Orleans Square. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: what is it about the Japanese culture...... Date: 16 Jan 2001 15:27:57 +0100 could it have to do with the fact that everything, all goods, living in general, is much more expensive in Japan when you calculate it in $ or Euro's? import CDs are CHEAPER there than homebread ones, I've heard... Johan ----- AZ wrote: >So what is it about the Japanese culture that so many of its collectors are >willing to pay the huge dollars? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: what is it about the Japanese culture...... Date: 16 Jan 2001 21:26:57 +0100 Johan wrote: > import CDs are CHEAPER there than homebread ones, > I've heard... That's true. I have been trading tapes and CDs with a very nice Japanese guy for a couple of years now, and CDs of Japanese origin are indead more expensive. There seems to be a very healthy market for second hand CDs though. Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Pascals Date: 17 Jan 2001 11:32:29 -0500 Unless I'm mistaken, there are several Pascal Comelade fans here on the list. I copied the following review from Other Music's latest e-newsletter. Is anyone familiar with this release? Is this disc worth getting? lousmith@pipeline.com PASCALS "s/t" (Disques du Soleil, France) CD $16.99 RealAudio: http://64.27.65.90:8080/ramgen/othermusic/pascals1.rm RealAudio: http://64.27.65.90:8080/ramgen/othermusic/pascals2.rm Though they initially formed in order to perform the music of Pascal Comelade, this 16-piece ensemble has since moved on to their own compositions, though with his music as the starting point (sort of inescapably, because they use a similarly large and strange array of more rarely-used music-making devices). They're no second-rate imitation, and, in fact, the size of the group makes it possible for them to make a different sound and statement. Pianicas, melodicas and accordions lead, the acid burn of the reeds tinged with a fragile sweetness, and there's an inescapable Eastern-European quality to many tracks, even as some follow traditional Japanese scales/ melodies. There are ukeleles and autoharp, beyond the violins and cellos a stiff singing saw arcs over a number of songs, and (literally!) bells and whistles abound. Five of the fourteen songs have vocals, sung in Japanese, cute but very untrained. They even wrote their own words for Henry Mancini's 'Moon River', for which their arrangements are spectacular and unusually dense. As I think of some of Comelade's methods as Eno-derived (he uses the Oblique Strategies sometimes), then Pascals are Eno's artistic grandchildren. [RE] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) thinking of irwin Date: 17 Jan 2001 16:53:37 -0000 There was a very brief interview with Irwin Chusid on Channel 4's DisinfoNation last week. mainly a plug for Songs in the Key of Z it = was too brief to be anything but irritating. some clips of a couple of = 'outsider' artistes. Someone called BJ singing a song about Canada ('they treat = you like a king' apparantly). Don't think it can be the same BJ. About 3 quarters of the programme was about some dozy porny performance artist, seemed to model herself on late 60's Divine only without the weight. Personally I could have done with the timings reversed. Can't we go on about this for a few weeks now :=AC) I just love Dusty Groove, its even worth importing the stuff from = there. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ Spunky Misunderstood Genius # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlt4@mindspring.com Subject: Re: (exotica) thinking of irwin Date: 17 Jan 2001 12:13:07 -0500 >Someone called BJ singing a song about Canada ('they treat you That's BJ Snowden. More info at http://members.tripod.com/~anxietyny/obscura1.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) Then again, Steve Race said SCHIFrin... Date: 17 Jan 2001 12:18:44 -0500 While flipping through the channels (my ancestral habit as a male), I stopped on BET on Jazz's Not Just Jazz show, which featured nothing less than an older hour-long documentary on Lalo Schifrin, narrated by Steve Race! For the first time, I actually saw what he looked like and heard him speak! No archival footage, but some film clips and newer performance clips. On the good Schif Lalo-pop, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Future Jazz, F Galliano Date: 16 Jan 2001 19:48:44 +0100 At 15:01 +0100 2001/01/16, Robert McKenna wrote: >> >> >> a recent Future Jazz comp, featuring Cinematic Orchestra, is >> "Findomestic Jazz Experience vol.2" on Right Tempo 004, from Italy >> ....Frederic Galliano >Is this new Frederic Galliano stuff? don't know at all. track title: "Plis infinis N.3" Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Pascals Date: 17 Jan 2001 20:28:48 +0100 nytab@pipeline.com schrieb: > Pascal Comelade, this 16-piece ensemble 16 pieces? they need that many musicians to create their music? Boy... is this a government unemployment project? Mo -- studio R stirring your senses in a senseless world http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael@allmusicservices.com Subject: (exotica) Brother Theodore Date: 17 Jan 2001 11:59:23 -0800 Long ago ('97)--someone here sad that Brother Theodore was alive & well & ninety-something & still performing weekly (Sat. night) somewhere in NYC. Don't know if this is still true but I'd love to contact him if so. However, they didn't say WHERE he performs. Anyone know? With a few leads, I think I can find him--thanks. Please email me privately too, if you could, as I often get swamped & waaaay behind in my emails. Many thanks! Michael Mascioli, All Music Services michael@allmusicservices.com 44 Prosper St., #3 San Francisco, CA 94114-1633 Ph: (415) 864-8222 Fax: (415) 864-7222 All Music is primarily a mail order service, not a storefront. If you are in San Francisco and want to stop by, PLEASE PHONE AHEAD! ************************ "I think we'd better get started, Schatze. Some of the kids are beginning to foam over." -Loco Dempsey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, January 7 Date: 17 Jan 2001 12:41:28 -0800 (PST) God I love the Martian Hop by the Ran-dells. Brings out the fun loving side of me. I always assumed the Randalls were a one-hit wonder. Does any exoticat have more releases/album(s) by the Ran-Dells??? Are they any good? Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- cheryl wrote: > > Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, > Space Bop #124 Arjan's #1 > This week, we're playing a compilation put together by Arjan (for > the Exotica Ring), and it's really great - a real mix of everything > The Ran-dells: Martian Hop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Brother Theodore Date: 17 Jan 2001 15:53:59 -0500 Hi Michael, Brother Theodore is alive but not well and is no longer performing. A while back there was a post with contact info to send him a card while he was recovering from an illness or injury. I'll attempt to search the archives for that post. If I find it I'll forward to you. Cheers, Lou Smith lousmith@pipeline.com michael@allmusicservices.com wrote: > Long ago ('97)--someone here sad that Brother Theodore was alive & well & ninety-something & still performing weekly (Sat. night) somewhere in NYC. Don't know if this is still true but I'd love to contact him if so. However, they didn't say WHERE he performs. Anyone know? With a few leads, I think I can find him--thanks. Please email me privately too, if you could, as I often get swamped & waaaay behind in my emails. Many thanks! Michael Mascioli, All Music Services michael@allmusicservices.com 44 Prosper St., #3 San Francisco, CA 94114-1633 Ph: (415) 864-8222 Fax: (415) 864-7222 All Music is primarily a mail order service, not a storefront. If you are in San Francisco and want to stop by, PLEASE PHONE AHEAD! ************************ "I think we'd better get started, Schatze. Some of the kids are beginning to foam over." -Loco Dempsey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Brother Theodore Date: 17 Jan 2001 16:13:59 -0500 For the latest on Brother Theodore's condition (as of 12/99), go to: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/8135/questions.html Start at this URL for the Brother Theodore/Dark Humor site homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/8135/ lousmith@pipeline.com michael@allmusicservices.com wrote: > Long ago ('97)--someone here sad that Brother Theodore was alive & well & ninety-something & still performing weekly (Sat. night) somewhere in NYC. Don't know if this is still true but I'd love to contact him if so. However, they didn't say WHERE he performs. Anyone know? With a few leads, I think I can find him--thanks. Please email me privately too, if you could, as I often get swamped & waaaay behind in my emails. Many thanks! Michael Mascioli, All Music Services michael@allmusicservices.com 44 Prosper St., #3 San Francisco, CA 94114-1633 Ph: (415) 864-8222 Fax: (415) 864-7222 All Music is primarily a mail order service, not a storefront. If you are in San Francisco and want to stop by, PLEASE PHONE AHEAD! ************************ "I think we'd better get started, Schatze. Some of the kids are beginning to foam over." -Loco Dempsey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Then again, Steve Race said SCHIFrin... Date: 17 Jan 2001 17:16:35 EST In a message dated 1/17/1 12:15:17 PM, hagar@mindspring.net wrote: >an older hour-long documentary on Lalo Schifrin, narrated by Steve >Race! For the first time, I actually saw what he looked like and heard him >speak! I just got and heard for the first time "There's A Whole Lalo Schifrin Goin' On" which is a five star masterpiece... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) The Kahuna's Date: 17 Jan 2001 14:17:09 -0800 (PST) Hi Peter, or whoever, are we doing the Kahuna awards for the best releases of 2000?? Thought it went wonderful last year. I understand if you are swamped. Right off I would think the official Spanish release of the Marco Polo Adventurers would make the top nominations. Certainly, my nominations would also include Mansfield 6 and Dustytrails. Not to mention Senor Coconut or Piero Umaliani. Always helpful to look at Johan's site for the exotica releases of 2000. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) The Martian Hop! Date: 17 Jan 2001 17:35:32 -0500 >God I love the Martian Hop by the Ran-dells. Brings out the fun >loving side of me. I always assumed the Randalls were a one-hit >wonder. Does any exoticat have more releases/album(s) by the >Ran-Dells??? Are they any good? The Ran-Dells are now very well-documented one-hit wonders! http://www.wetalkoldies.com/WebX?displayNode@236.RbUDaorgaaD^0@!id=.efd5a95 The above link is a link to five articles written by one of the Ran-Dells, Steven Rappaport. It's the entire history of the Ran-Dells, with sound samples of the Martian Hop and the follow up singles. It even has a link to MY page http://hagar.home.mindspring.com/chairman.html It has the song, the follow-up singles and cover versions; there is an R&B version (which Rappaport said that he likes)a kiddie version and also a punk version! My page has pictures of the record and the flipside, which are my favorite songs of the Ran-Dells and the picture sleeve. Chairman, the Ran-Dells' label was not interested in putting out an album of the group, so all that exists are the three singles. Martian Hop is the best, however, I am also quite fond of the flip "Forgive Me Darling", which has no space sounds, but is a rather nice ballad, which builds to a great ending. The followup singles are good, but not quite the same and I have NEVER seen them. Le-de-dee, lee-dee, the... Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Basic Hip" Subject: (exotica) don't open - its a test Date: 17 Jan 2001 14:52:19 -0800 ya opened it :) i'm not getting any email at all :( # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sandberg Magnus" Subject: (exotica) And you thought I was dead Date: 17 Jan 2001 23:48:57 +0100 Hi all friends and people I have yet to meet, on the sometimes magical = but occasionally very dull exotica list. I just wanted to tell you that I have relisted and look forward to hear = what you are up to. Has the Hawaiian's released a new album yet? You know who I mean. Appear Lounge Laura under a new disguise? Shame on all who let her = marry. Is Moritz back on the list? How is the trader disc trade? I have recently purchased a cdrecorder and = will trade as much as possible. Wonderful news for tiki fans; Next time you visit Sweden be sure to = enter Tiki Room of Stockholm, a fresh newly designed bar with all the = favorite drinks and appropriate atmosphere. Open every day in the week. = Old fellow listee and long time exotican Stefan K=E9ry is responsible. = Opens in march. More on that in another email. I promise to write sour emails when drunk, even poems. In a strange and frightening world the fifties are easy to relive = through LPs. and the innocent days on 78s Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Risser Family" Subject: Re: (exotica) The Kahuna's Date: 17 Jan 2001 17:56:19 -0500 > Thought it went wonderful last year. I understand if you are > swamped. > > Right off I would think the official Spanish release of the Marco > Polo Adventurers would make the top nominations. > > Certainly, my nominations would also include Mansfield 6 and > Dustytrails. Not to mention Senor Coconut or Piero Umaliani. > Always helpful to look at Johan's site for the exotica releases of > 2000. Indeed, I am swamped. But I can turn over the list of categories if anyone wants to take it over. I also thought that there are several internet polling sites now, which could work to our advantage. Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) New Releases (Beefheart, German comps) Date: 18 Jan 2001 00:03:51 +0100 New stuff in at Forced Exposure: http://www.forcedexposure.com. _____________________________________________ BUDDHA (GERMANY): CATALOG ITEMS IN STOCK FOR THE FIRST TIME: CAPTAIN BEEFHEART: The Mirror Man Sessions CD (BUDDHA 91742). 1999 reissue of the classic 1967 Bob Krasnow sessions, originally issued in belated fashion by Buddha in 1971. Includes bonus tracks (as previously issued by Sequel), some of which are spread out onto the new version of Safe As Milk as well." ""Mirror Man is a weird album, part blues, part . . . something else again. Three of the tracks are elongated, amorphous numbers ranging in length from 10 to 19 minutes. 'You're Gonna Need Somebody on Your Bond' reappears as the epic 'Tarotplane' (the title of which is a pun on Robert Johnson's 'Terraplane Blues'), encrusted with shards of 'Wang Dang Doodle' and some debutante saxophone noodling from Beefheart; the more economical 'Gimme Dat Harp Boy' is nothing more or less than a lurching take on 'Spoonful'. However, some of the songs nod toward things to come -- most notably 'Kandy Korn,' which floats on French's oddly accented drumming and unexpectedly jerks into a wafting coda that anticipates the bolder rhythmic conceptions of Beefheart's next album." -- Chris Morris. $13.00 CAPTAIN BEEFHEART & HIS MAGIC BAND: Safe As Milk CD (BUDDHA 91752). 1999 reissue of the first Captain Beefheart album, originally issued by Buddha in 1967, with 7 bonus tracks (from the Mirror Man sessions. "With [Ry} Cooder supervising the music, the sessions proceeded more or less smoothly...Overall the music is still blues-based and almost commercial, but several of the cuts point to future directions, especially the hypnotic use of slide guitars, the frequent tempo and key changes, and the exotic rhythms, most notably on 'Abba Zabba'. Safe As Milk remains one of the great, if sadly underrated, albums of the late sixties. the musicanship if of the highest quality and it's a record brimful of imagination." -- John Platt. $13.00 _____________________________________________ CRIPPLED DICK HOT WAX (GERMANY): VA: Between Or Beyond Vol. 2 2LP (CDHW 064 LP). "These are smoking grooves from the 70s. After the successful release of Between Or Beyond Vol. 1 and the wonderful book, the label Crippled Dick Hot Wax is coming up with more tunes from the legendary Black Forest label MPS and its producer Hans Georg Brunner Schwer. This time the compilation focuses on the different styles of MPS: From bossa nova to bebop, from the beginning of fusion to power jazz. Featured artists are: Geroge Duke, Charly Antolini, Ernest Ranglin, Baden Powell, Jasper Van't Hof and more. The CD contains a 24 page booklet, the limited double vinyl comes in a beautiful gatefold cover and has three bonus tracks. A must have for both the jazz and the lounge fan. Other artists include: Rimona Francis, Dieter Reith, Nelson Riddle, Peter Herbolzheimer, The New Dave Pike Set, Roland Kovac, Rolf Kuhn, Mary Williams, George Shearing." $16.00 VA: Popshopping 2LP (CDHW 069 LP). "Here it is. The most incredible collection of German advertising music from the 60s and 70s. Mastered directly from the original Flexi Discs (the original advertisement tool). This one unites corporate sing-sung slogans with the superb beats and melodics of Germans creme de la creme of composers. Swing a little with Gerd Wilden, Johnny Teupen, Klaus Doldinger, Christian Bruhn and Horst Jankowski into the charming and colorful world of products that barely made it into this millenium. If you think this is only about 'nostalgia', you should prepare yourself to get rocked by the sounds of subliminal suggestion. Double LP version contains bonus tracks." $19.00 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sandberg Magnus" Subject: (exotica) The Perry London Date: 18 Jan 2001 00:47:00 +0100 I know I have written about these guys (and gals?) before and wanted som = info and no answer, but now when i asume there are new members around, = any idea? Its such a groovy record on the basf MPS stereo label. CRA 866 The Perry London -HELL DRIVERS I cant find anything on the web It is one of the best LPs I have found thrifting=20 They rock in a funny way. Now sound acid jazz mexican speed up tempo. = Maybe they are germans? Bud Sherman, Paul Daric, Erwin Lehn, Bernd Rabe, = Hans Schobert and George String has written the tracks Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sandberg Magnus" Subject: SV: (exotica) The Perry London Date: 18 Jan 2001 01:03:14 +0100 I forgot the cover! One of the best! Three girls with vespa helmets making themselves pretty, and in the = background a carcrash. Backcover features track listing and the same = carcrash. Will post this on my webpage: http://w1.864.telia.com/~u86400999/ which will be in english in a couple of days, and feature comics exotica = related items and info on myself thanks Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pinwhiz@pop.ihug.co.nz Subject: Re: (exotica) The Perry London Date: 18 Jan 2001 00:59:27 GMT > They rock in a funny way. Now sound acid jazz mexican speed up tempo. > Maybe they are germans? Bud Sherman, Paul Daric, Erwin Lehn, Bernd Rabe, > Hans Schobert and George String has written the tracks Magnus I think you are right: If its the same Erwin Lehn & Bernd Rabe they are German... check out: http://www.allaboutjazz.com/bigband/top20-0598.htm SDR Big Band (formerly the Erwin Lehn Orchestra), Germany. When I first stumbled across maestro Erwin Lehn’s Südfunk Orchestra a number of years ago, the experience almost blew me away. The acquaintance began with a two–disc set (40 Jahre Jazz, Intercord Records 973.400) celebrating Lehn’s 40 years as leader of the orchestra (he stepped aside in 1991, after which the ensemble was renamed the SDR Big Band). Lehn was the Stan Kenton/Count Basie/Woody Herman of West Germany rolled into one. The Südfunk Orchestra was a swingin’ powerhouse, the equal of almost any band here in the States or elsewhere. A handful of Americans helped man its ramparts over the years including trumpeters Lee Katzman and Don Rader, trombonists Bobby Burgess and Joe Gallardo, and alto saxophonist Herb Geller, but the band’s shining star was Bernd Rabe, one of the world’s greatest unsung alto players (a claim we don’t make lightly). Since Lehn’s departure the orchestra has recorded at least twice that I know of — a two–disc set in 1992 (Intercord 973.401) in which the ensemble was conducted on one disc by Manny Albam, on the other by Rob McConnell, with Geller the featured soloist on both; and My Instrument Is the Orchestra (Intercord 986.987), recorded in 1993 with guest conductor Bill Holman (which introduced his composition, “A View from the Side”). An outstanding big band by any yardstick. A web search for "Erwin Lehn" or "Bernd Rabe" will reveal lots more..... & yes they recorded on MPS. Cheers Mike Auckland, New Zealand # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Pascals Date: 18 Jan 2001 01:10:20 -0500 I'm waiting for my copy - it should be here by the end of the week, and then I'll post a review. The full title of the CD is actually "Pascal Comelade presents the Pascals". It sounds like it will be quite interesting, but then, anything associated with Pascal Comelade usually is! For those Canadians on the list, Verge is the Canadian distributor (and you can buy directly from them) - they also stock ALL of Comelade's releases, and any others associated with him (including Pierre Bastien), so for those who want to complete their Comelade collections, the site to check out is: http://www.vergemusic.com Here's their review of it: Pascals Pascal Comelade Presents Pascals DEI-DSA54072-CD Rock 017533337626 ($26.00 CD) Rocket Matsu, pianica, mandolin, accordion, piano; Tetsuya Saitoh, pianica, accordion, piano, bass; Akane, toy-piano, piano, vocals; Yatsutsugu Nogushi, pianica; Taro Kanal, guitars; Toshiaki Chiku, ukulele, harmonica, vocals; Satoshi Hara, banjo; Ayumi Matsui, violin; Christine, violin; Utsuo, violin, recorder; Sara Ohtake, violin, recorder; Hiromichi Sakamoto, cello, music-saw, autoharp; Kohta Miki, cello; Kazato Nagahata, trumpet, sopranino sax; Ryutaro Yokosawa, drums, percussion, vocals; Kohji Ishikawa, percussion, toys, vocals. Pascals was founded in 1995 by Rocket Matsu, a big fan of Pascal Comelade, when they played a midnight set in Tokyo. The band, that night, had 7 members and played only Pascal Comelade. Now with 15, they do their own compositions as well as Comelade and others. And as soon as this CD shows up,it will be included in a Space Bop special on Pascal Comelade, for anyone out there who isn't familiar with his unique brand of music - probably to air next week or the week after. cheryl nytab@pipeline.com wrote: > > Unless I'm mistaken, there are several Pascal Comelade fans here on the list. I copied the following review from Other Music's latest e-newsletter. Is anyone familiar with this release? Is this disc worth getting? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) And you thought I was dead Date: 18 Jan 2001 01:12:47 -0500 Hey - welcome back Magnus!!! We missed you. cheryl Sandberg Magnus wrote: > > Hi all friends and people I have yet to meet, on the sometimes magical but occasionally very dull exotica list. > I just wanted to tell you that I have relisted and look forward to hear what you are up to. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "william" Subject: (exotica) re:japanese collectors Date: 18 Jan 2001 13:17:43 +0800 > > Johan wrote: > > > import CDs are CHEAPER there than homebread ones, > > I've heard... > > That's true. I have been trading tapes and CDs with a very nice Japanese guy > for a couple of years now, and CDs of Japanese origin are indead more > expensive. There seems to be a very healthy market for second hand CDs > though. > > Marco on average it seems that a new japanese cd will sell for about 25-30 u.s. dollars each. and a single for 12-20 u.s. the second hand discs will go anywhere from 4-20 u.s. i think. assuming it's not rare. i saw certain original issues by p5 going for 60-90 u.s. dollars i think. but the thing to remember when talking about these "mythical" japanese collectors is that these are a minority. most of the japanese i have met can not or would not pay such prices as have been thrown around on the list. however, it does seem that everything has some sort of following in japan somewhere. wasn't it on this list that i read about some american punk rock bands who's records were re-issued in japan and they made more off that than they ever made when they were first released? the thing about japan is there seems to be experts on everything. a friend of mine in germany told me about a box set of some really obscure local berlin band being released in japan recently. and he was shocked because even most people he knew in berlin did not know who this band was. and yet, here it was being re-issued in japan and selling out if i remember correctly. also there are japanese tv shows about experts on certain subjects. if you win you become the "king" of a certain subject. i saw one on comic books where they would name a comic book and you would have to name the school featured in the comic. or they would show you the cover of a comic and you would have to name the number and issue of the latest edition.(one contestant named the issue that was just hitting the streets as they were taping the show). for the final competition they had the finalist dress up like certain characters and re-enact a comic including the lines from what appeared to be from memory. including the angle of faces.(ie if in the comic it was a profile the people would face the camera in profile). i also saw a show about the king of amusement parks where you had to identify theme songs from amusement parks from around the world as well as speciality foods from various amusement parks. the final competition dealt with all contestants being on a ride and being asked a question then they ride the ride and when it's over they have to answer the question. if they are wrong they have to ride the ride again while the others go to the next ride for the next step of the race. william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Future Jazz, F Galliano Date: 18 Jan 2001 10:52:54 > >>Is this new Frederic Galliano stuff? > > don't know at all. track title: "Plis infinis N.3" > > Johan > No, from the first album then (and probably on the live album as well). He's due an album out last year (on F-Communications i assume). His stuff is jazz house, but much, much tougher than St. Germaine, and with a very West African feel to it. Rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) tiki thingies Date: 18 Jan 2001 14:08:17 +0100 http://www.kruiser.de/TabooTiki.htm http://www.domaco.ch/produkte/marken.html#tiki http://www.netaxs.com/~trance/rapanui.html Mo -- studio R stirring your senses in a senseless world http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) And you thought I was dead Date: 18 Jan 2001 09:48:41 -0500 Welcome Back Magnus. I am looking forward to your ravings! =20 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA= =B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=20 Charlieman=20 "Everything that can be invented, has been invented." =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 - Charles H. Duell, 1899=A0 =A0=20 =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits[ Emma Kelly, Norris Turney, Auberon Waugh, Michael Cuccione Date: 18 Jan 2001 10:09:56 -0500 Emma Kelly SAVANNAH, Ga. (AP) -- Pianist and singer Emma Kelly, the ``Lady of 6,000 Songs'' made famous by the book ``Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil,'' died Wednesday from a liver ailment. She was 82. Kelly's nightclub act, in which she tapped her vast repertoire of American popular standards five nights a week until she became ill a month ago, was a must-see for Savannah tourists itching to meet a real-life character from author John Berendt's Southern Gothic best seller. Though the book helped her book performances from New York to Switzerland, Kelly continued to crisscross south Georgia to play church socials and high school graduations, Kiwanis luncheons and wedding receptions. Berendt devoted an entire chapter to Kelly in the 1994 book, describing her as a teetotaling Baptist who would play smoky cocktail lounges Saturday nights and Sunday school classes the next morning. Kelly performed at her own nightclub, Emma's, in Savannah, for five years in the late 1980s. She then bounced between lounges near the downtown riverfront. She also independently recorded three albums, the last of which will be released posthumously, her son said. Norris Turney DAYTON, Ohio (AP) -- Jazz musician, composer and conductor Norris Turney, who played alto sax and flute with the Duke Ellington Orchestra and led the Norris Turney Quartet, died Wednesday of kidney failure. He was 79. Turney recorded with a number of bands over the years, and toured with Billy Eckstine, Ray Charles and others. He was an original member of the Lincoln Center Jazz Orchestra directed by Wynton Marsalis. Turney's lone CD as a band leader, ``Big, Sweet 'N Blue,'' was warmly received by jazz critics. Auberon Waugh LONDON (AP) -- Auberon Waugh, a writer and satirist who posed as a friend to the smoker, the drinking driver and the rhyming poet, died Tuesday. He was 61. Waugh, who had a history of heart ailments, died in his sleep, his wife, Lady Teresa Waugh, said Wednesday. Waugh, the second of seven children of novelist Evelyn Waugh, was a longtime contributor to Private Eye magazine, founded the Literary Review and had been a columnist for The Daily Telegraph. At the Literary Review, he championed conventional, rhyming poetry and established the annual Bad Sex Award, highlighting what were regarded as particularly egregious examples of literary sex scenes. Waugh published the first of four novels, ``The Foxglove Saga,'' in 1960, and critics tended to compare it unfavorably with his father's work. He became better known as a journalist, including his stint writing a diary for the satirical Private Eye. Michael Cuccione NEW YORK (AP) -- Michael Cuccione, the youngest member of the MTV mock boy band 2gether, died Saturday from complications from Hodgkin's disease. He was 16. The teen played Jason ``Q.T.'' McKnight on the MTV show ''2gether,'' which poked fun at the boy-band craze. His character had a fictional illness, ``biliary thrombosis,'' but Cuccione actually suffered from Hodgkin's disease as a child and underwent five months of chemotherapy. Cuccione's uncle said the cancer had not returned in five years, but past treatments had impaired his breathing. A problem with his diaphragm developed and he was forced to tape episodes of ''2gether'' while carrying a portable oxygen machine. The singer-actor set up a cancer research foundation, co-wrote a book with his grandmother and appeared on ``Baywatch'' as a cancer victim. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) "The Nutty Squirrels": $105 Date: 18 Jan 2001 14:33:02 +0100 all that talk about $ and expensive records, reminded me to post this: The Nutty Squirrels "The Nutty Squirrels" LP, Hanover, 1959, includes "uh-oh". has a VG+/VG+ copy of it for... $105. is this record that rare? and it ain't even Mint. too much for my budget. ridiculous is a word that comes to mind. $30? OK. $40? hmmmmmm, maybe. more? nope. Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) And you thought I was dead Date: 18 Jan 2001 17:11:24 +0100 Hi Magnus, since we still have Lou on this list, we know who's dead. Sandberg Magnus schrieb: > Is Moritz back on the list? 's been a loooong time since you've been here. > Wonderful news for tiki fans; Next time you visit Sweden be sure to enter Tiki Room of Stockholm ...and drink a hot punch by the warm oven and watch the hula girls dancing in their long fur coats? Great to hear from you. Mo -- studio R stirring your senses in a senseless world http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Brother Theodore Date: 18 Jan 2001 17:12:37 +0100 nytab@pipeline.com schrieb: > > Brother Theodore is alive but not well Hi Lou, do you know when I will die? I just thought you might know it... -Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Brother Theodore Date: 18 Jan 2001 11:44:24 -0500 >Hi Lou, do you know when I will die? >I just thought you might know it... How can you talk like that when Mr. Sandberg said that Magnus died? Daed si luaP, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Theremin on SNL Date: 18 Jan 2001 11:10:41 -0600 Anybody see the theremin player on Saturday Night Live last weekend? The SNL band mainly plays going into commercial, so there's not much, but they did play "My Favorite Martian" on the theremin at one point. Just curious if anybody saw it and knows who the player was...? Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Theremin on SNL Date: 18 Jan 2001 12:25:17 -0500 Wasn't that Pamela Kurstin? See this page: http://members.aol.com/planetgrog/kwelcome.html lousmith@pipeline.com dbrogdon@UKANS.EDU wrote: > Anybody see the theremin player on Saturday Night Live last weekend? The SNL band mainly plays going into commercial, so there's not much, but they did play "My Favorite Martian" on the theremin at one point. Just curious if anybody saw it and knows who the player was...? Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Brother Theodore Date: 18 Jan 2001 14:07:03 -0500 Hummmmmmmm....the crystal ball is hazy....perhaps a Mo original on my wall would clear things up! For the year end NYTimes obit wrapup, including pieces on Julie London and Tito Puente (and Big Pun) go to: http://www.nytimes.com/library/magazine/home/20010107mag-index.html lousmith@pipeline.com exotica@web.de wrote: >Hi Lou, do you know when I will die? I just thought you might know it... -Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: (exotica) Yeeeeeeehaw! The return of Magnus! Date: 18 Jan 2001 13:34:28 -0600 So glad yer back, pal! Waiting on those poems. And Mo, stylin' slogan for studio R. >studio R >stirring your senses in a senseless world >http://moritzR.de >exotica@web.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) therimin? Date: 18 Jan 2001 14:14:30 -0600 Ok, what IS a theremin? colleenintexas Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) therimin? Date: 18 Jan 2001 15:21:40 -0500 Quoting from the Kurstin's site: Imagine standing in front of the theremin, in an invisible sphere of its electro-magnetic field. As your right hand moves further from the loop antenna, the sound gets louder. As your left hand gets closer to the left antenna, the pitch gets higher - if the rest of your body happens to move, it will also effect the pitch. By waving your left hand slowly towards and away from the antenna, you can make the theremin sound like a police car siren. Any part of your body can effect it, as well as surrounding bodies, objects, and quite possibly, invisible entities! Not exactly clear? - try this nice page at: http://www.137.com/theremins/ You can get the idea by using this mouse-theremin called "MouSing": http://www.sagebrush.com/mousing.htm lousmith@pipeline.com colleen7@ireland.com wrote: > Ok, what IS a theremin? colleenintexas Colleen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) record owning blues Date: 18 Jan 2001 15:25:46 -0500 Woke up this morning looked at my shelves wished I didn't have any I'm serious. I like them. I love finding them and all. I just don't want them anymore. All I did for three months was make CDR's. Then as the new year came and I realized I needed to think about other things, I finished phase one and took a rest. In phase one, I got rid of almost all the exotica and lounge. All the Fifties swinging big band material. In phase one I got rid of about half my records (though some of them are still lingering here in boxes intended for ebay.) In phase one I got rid of the things I thought I might not miss. I got rid of the things where I didn't need the records, just the music. About three years ago, I heard some Sammy Davis Jr and realized what was great about him. So I started buying Sammy records whenever I saw them. Which isn't that often. Still, a couple of years later you have 14 Sammy records. Not much if you're a real collector. If you're a real collector you want all of them. But I'm not real in THAT way. So now I have two (great) ALL-SAMMY CD's and I kept about three of his records just for the hell of it. (In case I decide to become a DJ in my fifties.) So now I'm in phase two. And phase two is about getting rid of almost everything else. My idea is that someday, rather than having shelves filled with records, I'll have like four wooden boxes. Maybe I'll have them custom built since they'll have to be longer than your average milk crate. Maybe the width of an Ikea Ivar shelf. I'll have one box with soundtracks, emphasis on crime jazz and groovy sixties stuff. One box with NOW sound. One box with singing, emphasis on soft pop. One box with jazz, including the groovy fake jazz. (Oops where do I put the country? Make that five boxes.) It's really true. I wish all my records were on CDR. Trouble is that in phase one I was easily AS obsessed with making CDRs as I've ever been obsessed with finding or buying records. More. It was my full time job. I can't do that again. If I let myself totally feel the need to get rid of everything, I'll just sit here everyday all day making CDR's. I've made ten jazz CDR's since Monday when I let myself start making them again. I started on the jazz because I've been listening to jazz again. I've been listening to the jazz CDR's I made in phase one. I've been buying those Cinematic Orchestra style CD's and now I want to listen to jazz again. I'd rather listen to one of my jazz CDR's than one of my jazz records. AND I'd rather listen to a CDR I made from my former collection than to a new jazz CD that I could buy. Right now I'm making a CDR of this beautiful sounds-like-crime-jazz Shelly Manne and his Men LP called "The Gambit" which I probably haven't listened to since I bought it five years ago. I might even keep this one since I'm keeping the crime jazz and this will fit with the Shelly Manne "Peter Gunn" LP. But I'll put two more Shelly Manne LP's on here and get rid of them. Sorry to those of you still with us. Just meant to sing the blues, not the explanation. I'm soon getting a Vinyl website that will contain a diary and I won't need to pour it out here anymore. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Taub Subject: (exotica) Foods of the Tiki Gods Date: 18 Jan 2001 16:25:25 -0500 Foods of the Tiki Gods Remember the Polynesian craze of the '50s and '60s? Americans are taking = another look at that beloved silliness. Rest of story here: http://www.latimes.com:80/food/20010117/t000004548.html Mentions Don Tiki (wrongly adds that Arthur Lyman instead of Martin Denny = played on their record) and Sven's The Book of Tiki along with a couple of = recipes... And while I'm at it, a review of the Gentle People's records (haven't = these been out? maybe not in Montreal?) http://news.excite.com:80/news/uw/= 010116/entertainment-music-143 Happy reading. Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: Re: (exotica) Foods of the Tiki Gods Date: 18 Jan 2001 16:36:47 -0500 The McGill Tribune writes an article on lounge and doesn't interview its resident exoticats, Brian and myself?! And they come to me when they need a Britney Spear quote ... Is this the future of journalism? Will Straw, Acting Chair, Department of Art History and Communications Studies McGill University 853 Sherbrooke Street W. Montreal, QC H3A 2T6 Canada Phone: (514) 398 7667 Fax: (514) 398 7247 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Ford" Subject: (exotica) elvis movie Date: 18 Jan 2001 15:47:48 -0600 A question for those who know more about Elvis movies than I do: Someone told me recently that there's a movie that contains a scene in which Elvis's blue-collar character is socializing uncomfortably with a bunch of uptight aesthetes who are debating how much abstraction is permissible in jazz. Does this ring a bell, or is this scene an outrageous fabrication? Phil # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlt4@mindspring.com Subject: Re: (exotica) elvis movie Date: 18 Jan 2001 16:49:21 -0500 This is "Jailhouse Rock." LT : > A question for those who know more about Elvis movies than I do: Someone told me recently that there's a movie that contains a scene in which Elvis's blue-collar character is socializing uncomfortably with a bunch of uptight aesthetes who are debating how much abstraction is permissible in jazz. Does this ring a bell, or is this scene an outrageous fabrication? Phil # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) therimin? Date: 18 Jan 2001 14:23:38 -0600 > colleen7@ireland.com wrote: > > > Ok, what IS a theremin? > colleenintexas I've had a lot of fun with this little program: http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/playground/theremin1.shtml -- Matt Marchese "I keep havin' this nightmare....it's a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) therimin? Date: 18 Jan 2001 15:21:40 -0500 Quoting from the Kurstin's site: Imagine standing in front of the theremin, in an invisible sphere of its electro-magnetic field. As your right hand moves further from the loop antenna, the sound gets louder. As your left hand gets closer to the left antenna, the pitch gets higher - if the rest of your body happens to move, it will also effect the pitch. By waving your left hand slowly towards and away from the antenna, you can make the theremin sound like a police car siren. Any part of your body can effect it, as well as surrounding bodies, objects, and quite possibly, invisible entities! Not exactly clear? - try this nice page at: http://www.137.com/theremins/ You can get the idea by using this mouse-theremin called "MouSing": http://www.sagebrush.com/mousing.htm lousmith@pipeline.com colleen7@ireland.com wrote: > Ok, what IS a theremin? colleenintexas Colleen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: (exotica) Atlantic kahiki article Date: 18 Jan 2001 18:53:47 -0500 The February issue of 'The Atlantic' magazine has a short article about the closing of the Kahiki restaurant, focusing on the issue on how to decide which architecture to preserve and which to let fade away. The full article can be read here ..... http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2001/02/curtis.htm Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) Hawaiian Blossoms Date: 19 Jan 2001 02:11:41 +0100 (MET) Just find a fantastic 10inch HAWAIIAN BLOSSOMS by Haleloke Kahauolopua with Arthur Godfrey on the Ukulele, The Mariners and Orch. Directed by Archie Bleyer. I really dig their H. War Chant and specialy there Yaaka Hula Hickey Dula So does anybody knew, if there is more by them out there, that it is worth to look for ? Martin -- visit the ***Space Escapade*** Exotic Club Pop Entertainment with Guests and the Lemon Squeezer Sound System at the Atomic Cafe, Neuturmstr. 5, Munich, every Tuesday Night http://www.atomic.de/ Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) Hawaiian Blossoms Date: 19 Jan 2001 02:11:40 +0100 (MET) Just find a fantastic 10inch HAWAIIAN BLOSSOMS by Haleloke Kahauolopua with Arthur Godfrey on the Ukulele, The Mariners and Orch. Directed by Archie Bleyer. I really dig their H. War Chant and specialy there Yaaka Hula Hickey Dula So does anybody knew, if there is more by them out there, that it is worth to look for ? Martin -- visit the ***Space Escapade*** Exotic Club Pop Entertainment with Guests and the Lemon Squeezer Sound System at the Atomic Cafe, Neuturmstr. 5, Munich, every Tuesday Night http://www.atomic.de/ Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Huber" Subject: (exotica) Spanish instrumental rock - '60s-style Date: 18 Jan 2001 20:45:53 -0600 Mini-review of the NEW WORLD RELAMPAGOS CD by Ferenc Dobronyi, Pop Records: This is an extremely interesting project. I have never heard the music of Los Relampagos, but apparently they were Spain's version of The Ventures; their highly prolific career lasting just five years from 1962 to 1967. Then appears New Orleans based Relampagos evangelist Mark Huber, spreading the word and convincing some of today's top instrumental stars to record a CD's worth of the spanish band's material. And what a band Huber has put together... featuring Ivan Pongracic - Guitar (The Space Cossacks), Dusty Watson - Drums (Slacktone, Dick Dale), and Sam Bolle - Bass (Agent Orange) as the core band, and augmented by original members of Los Relampagos and members of the Louisiana Philharmonic Orchestra, Ron Eglit from Dick Dale's band, Mark English from the Space Cossacks and many many more. The result is a great sounding and groovy set steeped in the vibe of early sixties arrangements and production-- roomy reverbs, ice rink keyboards and razor sharp playing. 17 songs, great packaging. Relampagos is pronounced Ray-lum-puh-goes and means Lightning. Available at: www.poprecords.com www.zptdudamusic.com www.amazon.com www.bim-bam.com www.deepeddy.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jane Fondle Subject: (exotica) Magnus! Date: 18 Jan 2001 18:56:55 -0800 (PST) Oh happy day! Magnus is back. The native girls are dancing...nude-ly! Woo, hoo! Jane Fondle ===== "It's just my nature to do weird stuff." - Les Baxter Buy the debut release from Astroslut: LOVE AT ZERO G at: http://cdalley.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: susi@nme.com Subject: (exotica) theremin Date: 19 Jan 2001 10:08:32 +0000 I play the theremin, it is the most beautiful of every instrument in the world and totally unique - you should check out the video "theremin - a space odyssey" which is a complete history of the instrument and it's inventor Leon Termin (who was nearly murdered by the KGB!!) - it's currently going through a huge revival - the greatest player is Clara rockmore (deceased) but you can hear the theremin played to beautiful effect in The Flaming Lips, Cornelius or Pram. Anyone want to know any more, you can mail me. Susi x ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname@nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Hawaiian Blossoms Date: 19 Jan 2001 11:36:29 +0100 Hemmel@gmx.net schrieb: > Haleloke Kahauolopua > I really dig their H. War Chant so is this the long-searched single good version of the notorious exotica terror-of-turntables? Mo -- studio R stirring your senses in a senseless world http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) record owning blues Date: 19 Jan 2001 11:38:32 +0100 Alan, I think you make one mistake: collecting always means a way of preparing for the future. But you can't forsee the future. So now you think you wanna have these four wooden boxes and you think you will want to have soundtracks, NOW sound, softvocals and jazz in them. But how can you tell? By the time you'll worked yourself through there you want something else. That's for sure! Why don't you prepare for the future in a more fundamental way: get yourself a real fine computer with a DVD burner, hook it to your stereo and collect anything you like as easy-to-store MP3s? I know that's what you will want anyway one day when you're sick of all your CDRs, that can only store ridiculous 70 minutes of music each (as to - I don't know - a thousand on one DVD with MP3s?). On the hard disc of your computer you could compile huge up-to-date collections of your favorite music at that time and just create playlists according to your moods. You could get all the music you want directly from the internet instead of wasting your time in dusty thrift stores and stinky second-hand record bins. But you know what: I think that's exactly what you really like. Mo -- studio R stirring your senses in a senseless world http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obit] Gregory Corso Date: 19 Jan 2001 08:29:13 -0500 MINNEAPOLIS (AP) - Poet Gregory Corso, one of the circle of Beat poets that included Allen Ginsberg and Jack Kerouac, has died. He was 70. Corso, who had prostate cancer, died Wednesday, his daughter, Sheri Langerman, said Thursday. He had been living with her since September, she said. Born in New York's Greenwich Village, Corso was the author or co-author of more than 20 collections of poetry and other works. Ginsberg discovered Corso in the 1950s. Corso's first poems were published in 1955. One of his best-known works was the 1958 poem ``Bomb,'' an ode to atomic weapons in the shape of a mushroom cloud. ``Know that the earth will madonna the Bomb/ that in the hearts of men to come more bombs will be born/ magisterial bombs wrapped in ermine,'' he wrote. Among his collections of poems are ``Gasoline,'' ``Elegiac Feelings American'' and ``Mindfield.'' He remained active up until his death, recording a CD with Marianne Faithfull at his daughter's home, Langerman said. Corso was born March 26, 1930, to teen-age parents who separated a year after his birth. His own biographical notes in a compilation called ``The New American Poetry'' give a sample of his style and the early hardship of his life: ``Born by young Italian parents, father 17 mother 16, born in New York City Greenwich Village 190 Bleecker, mother year after me left not-too-bright father and went back to Italy, thus I entered life of orphanage and four foster parents and at 11 father remarried and took me back but all was wrong because two years later I ran away and caught sent away again and sent away to boys home for two years and let out and went back home and ran away again and sent to Bellevue for observation . At age 17, Corso went to prison for three years on a theft charge. After his release in 1950, he worked as a laborer in New York City, a newspaper reporter in Los Angeles, and a sailor on a boat to Africa and South America. It was in New York City that he first met Ginsberg, who introduced him to contemporary, experimental work. Maria Damon, an English professor at the University of Minnesota who has taught Beat literature, spent a week studying under Corso at the Naropa Institute in Boulder, Colo., in 1977. While Corso was lesser known than Ginsberg and Kerouac, he deserves no less recognition, she said. ``I would say that he was very gifted, also undisciplined, which is part of the beauty of Beat writing,'' she said. ``He was very well-read but not from formal schooling. He put things together in a highly romanticized way.'' Michael Skau, author of a 1999 book on Corso, said Corso was a media favorite when the Beat movement exploded in the 1950s because he was ``the prototype of a bad boy.'' ``He was very disruptive whether it was a social setting or a literary setting, very antagonistic even toward his closest friends,'' Skau said. ``Ginsberg tolerated behavior from Corso that made Ginsberg look like a saint.'' Corso was married three times. Survivors include five children, seven grandchildren and one great-grandchild, Langerman said. Funeral arrangements were not final, but a service was planned in Greenwich Village, with burial in Rome, Langerman said. AP-NY-01-18-01 1841EST # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) What Women Want and Why You Don't Date: 19 Jan 2001 09:10:28 -0500 I just saw "What Women Want", which is essentially about a man (Mel Gibson) raised in Las Vegas by his showgirl Mom and grows up to be a womanizer. Through an odd occurrence, he then is able to read women's minds and find out what they want. Well, I didn't post this to tell you about how much I liked or disliked the movie, which I didn't like, I came here to discuss the soundtrack. To quote critic Jay Sherman, "It stinks!" The music itself is fine, but it is used horribly. One of my fantasy jobs (come back into the room, I'm not talking about the one involving Rae Dawn Chong and various outfits!), is selecting appropriate songs for movies, for we all know that the proper music can set the proper mood. Since the main character was raised backstage in Vegas, it gave the film makers the excuse to play Sinatra, seemingly by the metric ton. You are not only listening to it, you are bludgeoned by it, you even get Mel Gibson, dancing for no good reason to it, it's almost like a Sinatroscopic surgical procedure. There are other singers on the soundtrack, such as Nancy Wilson, doing her Little Jimmy Scott impersonation and Bobby Darin doing Louis Armstrong's version of "Mack the Knife" (by the way, has anyone heard, there is a PBS special about Jazz?) but Sinatra's the guy. First, the Sinatra that they picked was stuff I've heard before, which is no mean feat since I am not a big Sinatra fan. Talented, legendary, yes, just not someone I feel the need to collect. Secondly, it was badly used. Folks who have never heard Sinatra will grow tired of hearing "I've Got You Under My Skin" for the umpteenth time. Later in the movie, you hear that drat "Mack the Knife" for no apparent reason. Then more Sinatra.... Aiee. Did Spinal Tap's chauffeur select this music? When Exotica/Lounge/Tiki started to attract a larger audience some on the list said that the party was being ruined, or words to that effect. I personally don't mind a larger audience for my various likes, but it helps to get it right. Mike Myers made "Austin Powers" movies and they make a lot of sixties references and I enjoyed them. THIS movie's soundtrack seems to have been assembled with the haste of a news story about Lounges. It is co-opting of a nostalgia that Hollywood is notorious for and it made a not-that-good movie even worse. Not Capitol to Reprise Sinatra this time, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Malente Date: 19 Jan 2001 10:01:26 EST http://www.m-a-l-e-n-t-e.de Have fun!...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Jazz: Mom's Doing It Too Date: 19 Jan 2001 08:43:17 -0800 (PST) A friend in New Orlean's mom sent this email to him. I got back from Vancouver and read all these Jazz posts and agreed with most of the problems pointed out concerning