From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: : Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 08:15:31 +0100 (CET) citerar Brian : >>I hope I can find more albums >> that will be equally interesting (and profitable!) > Is it just me or does the word 'asshole' spring to mind??? All you Ebay > traders will surely > take note of name and address and act accordingly in future! > > Brian Whats new? This is what the situation for used LPs looks like. It is still a cheap way of getting a piece of art. Look at all other antiques, be lucky you dont collect first editions or paintings from 1500. I would not have posted that though, if I were the seller, but that may be the look of some lurkers. Makes it clear something is best kept secret. No more posts on notsowellknown gems! I feel sorry for those collectors who saw their fleamarket joy turn into a buisness. But I cant keep myself away from this music anyway. I have even tried selling myself, and felt "GREED". Magnus visit http://www.bellybongo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Lps for life? Date: 01 Mar 2001 11:32:20 +0100 Magnus Sandberg schrieb: > I read somewhere that LPs will function in 100 years, CDs will function > in 30 years, CDrs will function in 10 years, can someone verify this? No, but I will in about 50 years. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Usselman, Lawrence J" Subject: RE: : Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 08:32:20 -0500 OK...I guess I now know what kind of people are on this list. Is this typical or is this just a couple of ill-mannered individuals? I seem to have made an incorrect assumption that basic social standards such as common courtesy and respect for individuals was normal behavior. My eBay activity has been entertaining, educational and yes, here's that dirty word again, PROFITABLE! So shoot me already. I see no need to apologize for it. I assume you must be independently wealthy and have never had the need to supplement your income? Congratulations! Let me explain auctions to you...I don't establish the price, the buyers do! If you've got a problem with that then please don't participate in them. Nice, friendly group you've got here... Larry Usselman (snargle) -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 9:09 PM "Usselman, Lawrence J" wrote: > As the seller of the aforementioned "Introspection IV" I'd like to offer > my thanks to these three gentlemen for their bids. I haven't posted here > before, but I've enjoyed lurking and reading the list for several months > and I've learned a lot about this musical style. I'm primarily a > dealer/reseller on eBay, but I do enjoy listening to much of the exotica vinyl that passes > through my hands and have become somewhat of a fan. > Thanks again for the enthusiastic bidding. I hope I can find more albums > that will be equally interesting (and profitable!) Is it just me or does the word 'asshole' spring to mind??? All you Ebay traders will surely take note of name and address and act accordingly in future! Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) Ooh Ooh! White Goddess! On Kapp?!? Date: 01 Mar 2001 09:00:09 -0500 > From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) > Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:07:08 -0600 > To: exotica@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (exotica) Ooh Ooh! White Goddess! On Kapp?!? > > > I feel so damn lucky. Went for some BBQ at a nearby small town, detoured > for record hunting at the local antiquaries and there it was: White > Goddess, Frank Hunter's uber-exotica LP on Kapp. WG has come up here from > time to time, usually when we talk about Holy Grails, overlooked exotica > classics, or ondiolines and bazimbas. Now I get why--sublimely sexy and > downy as a cloud. > > Am mystified though: I thought Kapp was a budget label, albeit not as low > rent as Modern, Somerset, Tops, etc. Kapp brings to mind marching bands > slogging through covers of show tunes. Am I wrong here? How did an LP this > fabu end up on this label? Was WG a re-release from an exotica powerhouse > such as Liberty? Or was it a divine exception in Kapp's catalog? Are > there other worthies on Kapp? > > Now the killah. Guess what I paid: $1. The vinyl is, hmm, how about > "well-played"? Still...good stuff is out there and sometimes cheap if you > just keep looking. > > Mimi afloat in a mist of Gorongoza > This is one of the reasons I'm on this list--it gives me hope. I've wanted White Goddess ever since I heard a track from it on King Kini's site several years ago (Kini's got to take the "Temporarily Out of Order" signs off of his playlist page--they're never comin' back up). Thanks go out to Darrell for playing a track from it on last week's show. I never thought of Kapp as being a budget label. I don't collect them, by any means, but as far as I know all of Roger Williams albums were on Kapp, and Kapp had a fairly nice "high-end" series (Gold Medallion) with the requisite brass and percussion complement. There's a swinging album by Al Caiola et al on that label (if I'm not mistaken, a smidgen of doubt creeps in as I write) called "My Fair Lady on Fire" with spiced-up versions of the musical's numbers. Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 06:18:26 -0800 (PST) What? We are all complicit in the hiked up prices we gripe about and pay. What's the big deal about the guy turning a profit on us compulsively competitive bidders? Or thanking us for the fact? Was there some evil or aristocratic condescension in his reply that I missed? His note read as basically friendly if not, to use another name caller's term, "passionate" introduction. Maybe it's just me, but that's ok. --- Colleen Pyles wrote: > Brian wrote: > >!) > Is it just me or does the word 'asshole' spring to > mind??? > Actually Brian, I thought "pretentious fop", but > "asshole" works also. > Colleen ===== "Grunt Big for Daddy." - Thomas Paine __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ooh Ooh! White Goddess! On Kapp?!? Date: 01 Mar 2001 06:35:59 -0800 >Are >there other worthies on Kapp? YESS!! Both of my Silver Apples records are on Kapp. They werent a budget label in my opinion. My Frank Hunter-White Goddess plays and sounds as great as the day it was made, congrats on that score!! it is indeed in the Top 10 in my exotica collection. -jonny _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Japanese 6Ts Group Sounds Date: 01 Mar 2001 06:43:47 -0800 (PST) Right you are, sir. I sheepishly concur. I think I just regurgitated some of that canned sensibility they used to feed us in school. I'm curious about Cambodia Rocks also.... I enjoy reading their product description... reminds me of the conversations my jr high pals from Hell's Kitchen and I used to have. And, as you might guess, Norton is the only catalog I can't be without. --- Giovanni Berti wrote: > > Tasteless? Ben, their title is 80% the reason why I > love to spend my > money on them! > They are: __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 10:03:40 EST I have no problem with capitalism per se...let the buyer beware and all that happy horseshit, but the lurking to do your "demographic research" is sneaky and underhanded. . So, its "fuck you asshole" (that's to ljusselm). And I did it in the open you sneaky fuck!.....AND you don't know jack about this list other than the fact that you can pick a few dollars off it...JB/had to draw a line on that one # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: Re: : Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 07:11:31 -0800 <> You don't need to go back that far. How about tv and movie tie-in Corgi Toys, GI Joes, Nutty Mads or any of the other toys most of us played with from the 60's? Or baseball cards and comic books? Records prices are a bargin! we flew in from NYC last night, so, bleary eyed, I skimmed over some exotica postings before night night. This one caught my eye. :( This morning I re-read Mr. Usselman's post and see nothing in it at all that deserves being called an asshole. He's right, it's the buyers that set the prices on ebay. This idea that sellers are "jacking up the prices" is baloney, that's not the way it works. Sure, there are some that set minimums high, or use reserves, but 90% of the sellers kick it off under ten bucks and let the buyers decide. We always seem to forget about all the large number of records that never receive a bid or are sold to a single bidder. Like the near mint Mike Simpson "Jungle Odyssey" I got for three bucks. :) I'm with U, Mr. U. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Ooh Ooh! White Goddess! On Kapp?!? Date: 01 Mar 2001 10:05:06 EST In a message dated Thu, 1 Mar 2001 9:36:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, "jonathan richardson" writes: >Are >there other worthies on Kapp? Ruby & The Romantics...Our Day Will Come LP # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) more internet fun Date: 01 Mar 2001 10:05:54 -0500 An ominous item for users of Napster or other file-sharing systems: http://www.siliconvalley.com/docs/news/svfront/copy022801.htm --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ooh Ooh! White Goddess! On Kapp?!? Date: 01 Mar 2001 16:13:36 +0100 (CET) > >Are > >there other worthies on Kapp? Eartha Kitt M # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Usselman, Lawrence J" Subject: RE: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 10:16:47 -0500 "pick a few dollars off it"? OK, care to explain how reading a list for over a month, listening to (and enjoying) a lot of music that's mentioned here on the list, and posting some items for sale in a public marketplace is equivalent to that? I didn't advertise items for sale on this list and I didn't solicit bids on my auctions. I posted my original note to thank the list members for their interest...just that and nothing more. "sneaky fuck"? Anyone who reads the list without posting is a "sneaky fuck"? Some very stranger perceptions here... I'm not going to lower myself and get into a name-calling flame war here. I'll continue lurking and learning and leave you folks to your little exclusive group. Have fun. Larry -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 10:04 AM exotica@lists.xmission.com I have no problem with capitalism per se...let the buyer beware and all that happy horseshit, but the lurking to do your "demographic research" is sneaky and underhanded. . So, its "fuck you asshole" (that's to ljusselm). And I did it in the open you sneaky fuck!.....AND you don't know jack about this list other than the fact that you can pick a few dollars off it...JB/had to draw a line on that one # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Ooh Ooh! White Goddess! On Kapp?!? Date: 01 Mar 2001 09:41:02 -0600 Thanks for the good wishes, Magnus and Jonny. Jonny or anyone else, please hold forth about Silver Apples. The title, which I recognize from previous discussions here, brings to mind Greek mythology. Is SA classic exotica? And does anyone know if Kapp records sold at average or budget prices...or did pricing vary by disk? Thanks for info, all. Will respond once I get the digest. Mimi Jonny wrote: >YESS!! Both of my Silver Apples records are on Kapp. They werent a budget >label in my opinion. My Frank Hunter-White Goddess plays and sounds as grea= t >as the day it was made, congrats on that score!! it is indeed in the Top 10 >in my exotica collection. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Blahut, Jr." Subject: (exotica) electa woman and dyna girl Date: 01 Mar 2001 09:20:37 -0600 In related news, The WB has greenlit a remake of the '70s Saturday morning classic "Electra Woman and Dyna Girl." While the old ABC version was about two magazine reporters, the new version will feature a young college student going to Las Vegas, where she finds Electra Woman and soon becomes her Dyna Girl. does anyone know who played the part of dyna girl? she is a movie actress now. someone like barbara hershey - - i saw her on either letterman or conan o'brian, she was introduced, and before she came out they showed a clip of the old t.v. show, then, when she came out, she stripped off the dress she was wearing, revealing her dyna girl outfit. it made me laugh anyway robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: : Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 10:21:29 -0500 > From: "Magnus Sandberg" > > Makes it clear something is best > kept secret. No more posts on notsowellknown gems! I feel sorry for > those collectors who saw their fleamarket joy turn into a buisness. But > I cant keep myself away from this music anyway. I'm one of those collectors who laments the fact that my joy has turned into a business, and so I admit that I winced somewhat when I got Larry Usselman's post, but I agree even more strongly with Ben Waugh's letter. I don't like what e-bay has done to my hobby, and most of the time I can only look longingly. Maybe Larry shouldn't have sounded so predatory about his methods, but I can't blame him. When I see albums I own going for high prices I feel the pull--maybe I should sell it? (I won't do it, but it wouldn't be wrong if I did.) After all, Larry made something available to people who wanted it and were willing to pay for it--he won and they won. I keep the faith that eventually all the people who really want Esquivel on vinyl will buy it, and the prices will begin to go down. I know that the supply is finite, but so is the demand. Call me a utopian but don't dash my hopes yet. Until then, I would hate to see us stop posting about notsowellknown gems--predators or not. Who knows, we may get to the copies before they do, and then we can sit back and watch the prices go up on e-bay and be satisfied that we have something worth that much. Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Ooh Ooh! White Goddess! On Kapp?!? Date: 01 Mar 2001 09:46:55 -0600 At 10:05 AM 3/1/01, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: >>there other worthies on Kapp? > >Ruby & The Romantics...Our Day Will Come LP Our Day...such a sweet tune. Is the LP mellow throughout with lots of soothing Latin beats? I've always thought of Ruby & the Romantics as one-hit wonders. Please correct me if I'm mistaken. Thanks for the info, Jimmy. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) electa woman and dyna girl Date: 01 Mar 2001 10:30:11 -0500 robertb@asapnet.net wrote: > does anyone know who played the part of dyna girl? she is a movie actress now. "Electra Woman and Dyna Girl" (1976) [TV-Series] Deidre Hall .... Lori/Electra Woman Judy Strangis .... Judy/Dynagirl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 07:30:07 -0800 (PST) "If BJ did not exist, it would be necessary to create him (her/it)." oh record collectors, oh humanity. jaysus h. --- DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: ...sneaky > and underhanded. . So, its "fuck you asshole" > (that's to ljusselm). And I did it in the open you > sneaky fuck!.....AND you don't know jack about this > list other than the fact that you can pick a few > dollars off it... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: : Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 16:39:16 +0100 (CET) citerar Clayton Black : >Until then, I would hate to see us stop posting about > notsowellknown gems--predators or not. Who knows, we may get to the Off course yoe are right, I write things quickly and send it away, maybe I should learn to think twice. The reason I joined this list was knowledge, the new guy, dont remember your name, but welcome to the list! I am sure when all this hubbub has settled you can join in once and a while, that is if you wish... Maybe you know some strange vinyl to talk about. Naturally we shall discuss secret gems as well. Maybe that is a way of getting them into the market too. Yes, I have thought it over! Yes, twice. Send it! OK! Send! Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 08:14:55 -0800 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Usselman, Lawrence > J > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 7:17 AM > I'm not going to lower myself and get into a name-calling flame war here. > I'll continue lurking and learning and leave you folks to your little > exclusive group. Have fun. Quite frankly, I'm a little surprised at all the vitriol being hurled around. Seems to me that Lawrence merely politely introduced himself, and came to the list for the purposes of learning more about the genre (which I'm sure many of us did), and enjoying the music. Nothing wrong with that. And aside from reserve prices, it's always the *buyer* who sets the prices on eBay. Welcome to the list, Lawrence. Note: I can see how one can use the word "asshole" in a friendly context, but not with strangers. And I would normally phrase it like this (see below): Asshole. =) Later, Ben http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara ICQ: 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Ebay evils(?) Date: 01 Mar 2001 11:21:07 -0500 I'll have to side with Ben on this one - I DON'T think this guy's comments = were done with a smirk - jeez, lighten up guys.=20 And he does have a point - it's an AUCTION so if you think it's too much = to pay then don't bid! - Nate (who passed up 100's of cool things on "that site" based on a = personal "price conscience") # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Usselman, Lawrence J" Subject: RE: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 11:19:00 -0500 Hey, ain't nothing wrong with assholes...we'd all be full of shit without one! =) Larry -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 11:15 AM Note: I can see how one can use the word "asshole" in a friendly context, but not with strangers. And I would normally phrase it like this (see below): Asshole. =) Later, Ben # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: RE: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 11:39:08 EST "sneaky fuck"? Anyone who reads the list without posting is a "sneaky fuck"? Nope...But someone who cashes in and doesn't even participate is a real Middleman...a time-honored capitalist position which really means making money by getting in between the product and the consumer, by "being there"..."sneaky fuck" was a kneejerk reaction to your way of doing things...too strong perhaps, sorry to chose that description in hindsight Some very stranger perceptions here... So don't read it...of course if you're just after money then perceptions don't really matter do they? And if its just money you're after do you have the right to comment on perceptions while you cash in? Isn't that like mocking a store customer? I'm not going to lower myself and get into a name-calling flame war here. I'll continue lurking and learning and leave you folks to your little exclusive group You can't really do both, at least not very well...I guess that's my point. Either join in or lurk. Something about lurking and looking for stuff to sell us after reading all the posts stinks to me. OK, maybe "sneaky fuck" was heavy-handed, but it still smells like a rat to me. If that's a strange perception, so be it. I'm too far along in life to worry about it...JB/don't use E-Bay anyway # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Ooh Ooh! White Goddess! On Kapp?!? Date: 01 Mar 2001 11:41:52 EST In a message dated Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:24:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) writes: << At 10:05 AM 3/1/01, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: >>there other worthies on Kapp? > >Ruby & The Romantics...Our Day Will Come LP Our Day...such a sweet tune. Is the LP mellow throughout with lots of soothing Latin beats? I've always thought of Ruby & the Romantics as one-hit wonders. Please correct me if I'm mistaken. Thanks for the info, Jimmy. Mimi She did the original "Heyb There Lonely Girl" as "Hey There Lonely Boy" back in '64 and the Charly re-release of 1985 contains all her best work...Exotic Soul with a latin tinge and a pop sensibility # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Linds" Subject: (exotica) April Fools Date: 01 Mar 2001 08:56:20 -0800 Hi every one! I just got the go ahead for another segment on CBC radio here in Canada. And I'm looking for interesting recordings about Pranks or Frauds or Fake Bands. Any ideas? Anybody have any ifo on Uri Geller? wasn't he found out to be a fraud? Thanks, Brian Linds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) April Fools Date: 01 Mar 2001 12:26:28 -0500 Off the top of my head, for fake bands, there's Bobby Trafalgar and Marvin Pontiac. There's also the soundtrack to "Soul Ecstasy", which was never a movie )(and Logan's Sanctuary, too) I'm sure there are lots more. cheryl > Hi every one! I just got the go ahead for another segment on CBC radio here > in Canada. And I'm looking for interesting recordings about Pranks or Frauds > or Fake Bands # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) April Fools Date: 01 Mar 2001 12:32:40 EST In a message dated 3/2/2001 12:59:12 AM, woodlind@island.net writes: << And I'm looking for interesting recordings about Pranks or Frauds or Fake Bands. >> "The Masked Marauders" was an "anonymous" supersession that was released by Reprise (no date on the album, most likely around 1969). People were led to believe that Dylan, Jagger and the Beatles were involved. Whether anyone actually believed that was Jagger singing "I Can't Get No Nookie", I'm not sure. The liner notes are by "T.M.Christian". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Shiman" Subject: Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 17:53:16 >>I feel sorry for those collectors who saw their fleamarket joy turn into a >>buisness. Being someone whose psychic well-being relies perhaps a little too much on maintaining a stream of cheap vinyl into my apartment, I've often wondered, sometimes obsessively, about the influence of outside factors (i.e., ebay) on the availability of interesting records in the usual sources. And I haven't noticed that the availability of interesting thrift/flea market/dollar-bin records has diminished markedly since ebay, really. Flea market records turned into much more serious business once those stupid record price guides started coming out. Perhaps it's also that that initial, casual interest in thrift store records stirred up by the "Incredibly Strange Music" books and exotica compilations of the mid-90's has abated somewhat, compensating in some small way for the rise of ebay. That said, this idea that "everybody's a winner on ebay" is just more consumeristic bullshit. Record collecting for many of us can be obsessive, if not addictive. We NEED that record, whatever it may be. The dealer/buyer relationship (which is all there is to ebay) is inherently exploitative when it comes to the collector. Telling the high bidder that everybody's a winner on ebay is like telling the drug addict that he or she's a winner. Not that record collection is even remotely in the same category as drug addiction. But the dynamic is much the same. -Dan Hear! "Dial-ated Pupils" -- every Saturday 4-6 pm CST exclusively at www.radio1austin.com. I will lead you safely through the perilous dark jungles of Austin's scratchiest record collection. Exotic jazz. Obscure Latin, Afro, and Eastern grooves. Easy listening arcana. Bring your bug spray. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: organ and vibes Date: 28 Feb 2001 19:17:49 +0100 Shirley Scott: Latin Shadows (Arranged And Conducted By Gary Mcfarland) LP, Impulse stereo AS-93 Wonderful combination of organ & vibes, with occasional flute & strings. Three bossa nova tracks. Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) FW from Aquarius> THAI ELEPHANT ORCHESTRA, PERREY & KINGSLEY Date: 28 Feb 2001 19:17:26 +0100 THAI ELEPHANT ORCHESTRA "s/t" (Mulatta Records) cd 15.98 First it was Frogs of North America invading our record bins, then it was Antarctic Seals and Penguins, followed by Insects in Stored Foodstuffs... now it's Elephants from Thailand! Brilliant recordings by non-human, um, sound-artists that we just can't get enough of here at Aquarius. In this case, the elephants are not just making their natural noises, they are indeed playing instruments! You may have read about this project in the New York Times -- when we found out about it we immediately contacted the label and ordered a whole bunch (based also on the on-line sample we heard at www.mulatta.org) and now here they are. These are elephants from a elephant preseve in Thailand who have been trained to play specially-built instruments (many marimba-like instruments similar to the traditional Thai renat, as well as such things as harmonicas, drums, and even a stringed "electric bass"), but they haven't been trained *what* to play, it's all improvised with minimal human guidance! Yet it's definitely music. It was kind of an experiment to find out how the creatures might express themselves, and we'd say it was very successful indeed. If we didn't know these were elephants, we'd think this was a strange No Neck Blues Band recording or something. Imagine a stumbling, primitive hippy folk jam on gamelan instruments, but not one that's random or erratic. The elephants play steady beats, the struck gongs or chimes interspersed with their vocalizations as well. With no overdubs and few edits this is certainly a very impressive recording! The Thai Elephant Orchestra was dreamed up, and this disc produced, by David Soldier (New York musician and academic) and Richard Lair (American expatriate elephant expert, who advises the Thai Elephant Conservation Center where this project goes on). The two came up with the idea that elephants, being social animals, might enjoy playing music together, and proceeded to investigate... Happily, not only did the elephants enjoy playing, they were good at it, demonstrating that they were able to decide what sounded good (to them) and what didn't. The booklet features photos and detailed, fascinating liner notes by both men. Here is what Soldier says the criteria was for the construction of the instruments, which were made by New York instrument builder Ken Butler (of "Gravikords, Whirligigs..." fame): "1. The instruments must be suitable to the elephant's anatomy, which means large instruments operated by the trunk. "2. The instruments must withstand jungle heat, humidity -- and the elephants. "3. The instruments should require minimum upkeep. "4. The instruments should have a Thai sound, because the regular daily audience is Thai, the mahouts would enjoy the music more, and the elephants have heard Thai music all their lives." Some more great tid-bits from the notes: "The elephants took easily to the harmonica, which sparked the first elephant music fad: one morning I arrived to hear the sound of harmonicas from all over -- from the hills and from the river. The elephants were walking in from the forest playing harmonicas, which they hold easily in the tip of their trunks." "The elephants didn't seem interested in the bells or theremin. At first they were spooked by the synthesizer keyboard, but later two animals were entranced by it. They disliked playing Ken's reed instruments with a large mouthpiece, or rather, trunkpiece. A mahout told me they were afraid that a snake might jump into their nostrils!" As sort of bonus tracks, in addition to the forty-plus minutes of elephant improv, there's also some non-instrumental elephant field recordings, several tracks of humans and elephants playing together, and even a few traditional Thai songs played by humans, about elephants. Sure there's a bit of simple amusement to be found here just from the concept alone, but in actual fact the music these elephants make is, to our ears at least, quite beautiful. We could go on and philosophize about how this project speaks to the relationship between man and animals in this world, but we'll leave those thoughts for you to explore if you chose to check out this album, which we highly recommend! Amazing and wonderful. RealAudio: http://aquariusrecordsSF.com/audio/thaijojo.rm RealAudio: http://aquariusrecordsSF.com/audio/thaiduo.rm RealAudio: http://aquariusrecordsSF.com/audio/thaiharmonica.rm RealAudio: http://aquariusrecordsSF.com/audio/thaiheavy.rm PERREY & KINGSLEY "Out Sound From Way In" (Vanguard) 3cd 25.00 Fuckin' A! All the the Vanguard recordings of Perrey & Kingsley finally available in one reasonably priced 2 disc set. Yes, I said "2 disc set". "The In Sound From Way Out", "Spotlight On Moog", plus Jean Jaques Perrey's solo albums "The Amazing New Pop Electronic Sound Of..." and "Moog Indigo" are all included here. Perrey & Kingsley, for those unfamiliar with their work, were probably the first electronic composers to work in the popular realm, releasing "The In Sound From Way Out" in 1966. Taking the ground breaking developments in tape and electronic music pioneered by Otto Leuning and Vladimir Ussachevsky and creating outrageoous arrangements of popular standards of the day a la Martin Denny and Esquivel, Perrey and Kingsley made some "easy listening" music that was anything but easy to listen to. Incredibly frenetic rhythms composed of multi-tracked tape loops of sound effects and recorded noise were the back drop to high paced electronic renditions of all the popular hits of the day using the most advanced synthesizers available. Everyone from Stereolab to Negativland claims a huge debt to the inspiration of these mad scientists of electronic pop. Also included are some nice biographical liner notes -- 7 pages worth -- by The Wire contributor Richard Henderson. Oh yeah, and there's also a third disc of Fat Boy Slim and Eurotrash remixes which you can promptly throw away when you get your copy. In its place you could fit a copy of Jean Jacques Perrey's "Good Moog" which was just re-issued as well and retails for 17.98. RealAudio: http://aquariusrecordsSF.com/audio/perreyspooksinspace.rm RealAudio: http://aquariusrecordsSF.com/audio/perreycosmicballad.rm RealAudio: http://aquariusrecordsSF.com/audio/perrey3rdmantheme.rm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) April Fools Date: 01 Mar 2001 13:28:17 -0500 The most famous fake would be the Traveling Wilburys, but there was no secret about who THEY were. There was also Phantom who released "Divine Comedy" and the band members were identified by letters, not names. There was "Orion" who was being touted as Elvis in disguise and it is Orion that is heard on the tape that was included with the book "Is Elvis Alive?" Bo and Peep singing "Young Love" has long been rumored to have Mick Jagger and John Lennon on a one-off single. There is also an April Fools record review that I read in Goldmine magazine years ago, saying that Jim Nabors had released a punk record with his new band, The Pyledrivers. I don't wanna holiday in the Shazam, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) April Fools Date: 01 Mar 2001 10:47:40 -0800 (PST) Ramones: Somebody put Something in my Drink NRBQ: Who Put the Garlic in the Glue? Sanford Clark: The Fool Country Joe and The Fish: Tricky Dicky Deadbolt: Patches the Clown Big Mamma Thornton (or "E"): Hound Dog ?: Bear Cat (male response to BMT's Hound Dog) Gene Vincent and The Blue Caps: You Told a Fib Frank Zappa: Don't You Want a Man Like Me? Peter and the Testtube Babies: Transvestite ("I've been cheated tonight...") The Rolling Stones: Don't Lie to Me Sam the Sham and The Pharaohs: The Phantom (about a prankster) Johnny Cash: A Boy Named Sue Ronnie Self: Ain't I'm a Dog --- Brian Linds wrote: > Hi every one! I just got the go ahead for another > segment on CBC radio here > in Canada. And I'm looking for interesting > recordings about Pranks or Frauds > or Fake Bands. Any ideas? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) "Tikiville" Date: 01 Mar 2001 13:48:46 -0500 >"Tikiville" is a romantic comedy about a 30-year-old single mother whose >life is turned upside down when the father of her child suddenly re-enters >her life after a 14-year absence. The series, set in south Florida, will >switch back and forth between the couple's current relationship and their >days as teen lovers. I think I'd rather watch SCTV's "Polynesiantown". m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 13:53:50 EST Looking back at the original post, I agree it seemed more of an intro than an opportunity to smirk, BUT, as someone who's gone to many a garage sale, inquired whether they had any records for sale, and been informed that someone just bought up their entire "stock" before I got there (and noticed a pattern forming as I continued my garage run), I can understand some of the vitrol coming from Brian & co. (I've uttered many curse words directed towards "dealers" myself at times due to said situations). Seeing both sides (diplomatic little f*** aren't I), DavidH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Usselman, Lawrence J" Subject: RE: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 13:56:53 -0500 Hi Dan and all, Some good points and on-the-whole I tend to agree with you about the factors influencing the availability of "cheap vinyl". Interestingly enough, there has been a steady stream of recent columns and letters in the U.S. record collecting "trade press" (Goldmine, Discoveries), bemoaning the influence of eBay in *driving down* the price of collectible records. It appears that the traditional closed-circle "good old boy" club of collectors and dealers has been having trouble maintaining their artificially inflated prices, what with every Jill and Joe scouring their attics and closets for used vinyl. The market has changed...for better or worse remains to be seen. As far as your addiction, Dan, might I suggest a twelve-step program? :^) (Hi, my name is Dan and I'm a record-addict...) Larry (who is not only a pusher but an addict himself...) -----Original Message----- Being someone whose psychic well-being relies perhaps a little too much on maintaining a stream of cheap vinyl into my apartment, I've often wondered, sometimes obsessively, about the influence of outside factors (i.e., ebay) on the availability of interesting records in the usual sources. And I haven't noticed that the availability of interesting thrift/flea market/dollar-bin records has diminished markedly since ebay, really. Flea market records turned into much more serious business once those stupid record price guides started coming out. Perhaps it's also that that initial, casual interest in thrift store records stirred up by the "Incredibly Strange Music" books and exotica compilations of the mid-90's has abated somewhat, compensating in some small way for the rise of ebay. That said, this idea that "everybody's a winner on ebay" is just more consumeristic bullshit. Record collecting for many of us can be obsessive, if not addictive. We NEED that record, whatever it may be. The dealer/buyer relationship (which is all there is to ebay) is inherently exploitative when it comes to the collector. Telling the high bidder that everybody's a winner on ebay is like telling the drug addict that he or she's a winner. Not that record collection is even remotely in the same category as drug addiction. But the dynamic is much the same. -Dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: : Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 13:56:39 EST In a message dated 03/01/01 10:04:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, basichip@home.com writes: << This morning I re-read Mr. Usselman's post and see nothing in it at all that deserves being called an asshole. He's right, it's the buyers that set the prices on ebay. This idea that sellers are "jacking up the prices" is baloney, that's not the way it works. Sure, there are some that set minimums high, or use reserves, but 90% of the sellers kick it off under ten bucks and let the buyers decide. We always seem to forget about all the large number of records that never receive a bid or are sold to a single bidder. Like the near mint Mike Simpson "Jungle Odyssey" I got for three bucks. :) I'm with U, Mr. U. >> yep, i am with you basic. also, i think of ALL the stuff i have found on ebay that i otherwise would never have found. i just purchased a mint condition Marantz 2230B Receiver for about a hundred bucks. 20 times better than the current shit being offered as receivers. where there 100 watts RMS does not even come close to the 30 watts continous that the Marantz has. ya gets whats ya bid for and no one forces you to bid. happy ebayer, tiki bob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 14:04:35 EST In a message dated 03/01/01 10:05:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, DJJimmyBee@aol.com writes: << I have no problem with capitalism per se...let the buyer beware and all that happy horseshit, but the lurking to do your "demographic research" is sneaky and underhanded. . So, its "fuck you asshole" (that's to ljusselm). >> so i guess he should not have put it up for bid. the search engine on ebay is where the people of a certain demographic LOOK for things that fit THEIR demographic. it does not work the other way around. did i miss something? did the lurker post to the list his ebay listing? even if he did, is the person who got the album upset? and the better question, if the person who got the album (and i don't know who that is at this point) had the opportunity to return it and get his money back, would he? and would the other three bidders be willing to buy it? i suspect they would. leave the seller alone. i don't think he did anything sneaky. no body paid more than they were willing to bid. tb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 14:20:31 -0500 > From: "Daniel Shiman" > Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:53:16 > To: exotica@xmission.com > Subject: Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree > > That said, this idea that "everybody's a winner on ebay" is just more > consumeristic bullshit. Record collecting for many of us can be obsessive, > if not addictive. We NEED that record, whatever it may be. The > dealer/buyer relationship (which is all there is to ebay) is inherently > exploitative when it comes to the collector. Telling the high bidder that > everybody's a winner on ebay is like telling the drug addict that he or > she's a winner. Not that record collection is even remotely in the same > category as drug addiction. But the dynamic is much the same. > > -Dan My students, who think I'm a communist, would laugh to hear that I am a purveyor of consumeristic bullshit. I do see your point, Dan, and I agree that the dealer/buyer relationship is exploitative of the collector. When it comes to albums, sometimes e-bay makes me feel like a hungry man with a succulent steak dangled just out of reach. On the other hand, many of us would NEVER see ANY of this stuff if it weren't for e-bay, and there's nothing to prevent dealers who offer the same goods at fixed prices from jacking them up--just go on GEMM or any other on-line seller to see. It may be that the prices there are a by-product of what happens on e-bay, or maybe e-bay just makes the response time by dealers quicker, but once dealers determined that the demand was great, the prices would go up, simple as that. I would love for the dealers to quit plundering the same thrift stores that are my Mecca, and every time I go to a used book sale I curse the dealers who leave with truckloads. But despite my gut feeling, I'm just not certain that prohibiting it is possible or, in the long run, desirable. Finally, the dynamic of record collecting and drugs may be similar, but I doubt that e-bay will ever be the only supplier, and the fact that we all still seem to be finding, even if only occasionally, gems in the antique stores, yard sales, and estate sales suggests that there is still plenty to go around that can be had reasonably. That said, I'll try to keep the consumerist jingoism to a minimum. Comrade Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 14:26:30 EST In a message dated 03/01/01 12:54:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, daniel_shiman@hotmail.com writes: << That said, this idea that "everybody's a winner on ebay" is just more consumeristic bullshit. Record collecting for many of us can be obsessive, if not addictive. We NEED that record, whatever it may be. The dealer/buyer relationship (which is all there is to ebay) is inherently exploitative when it comes to the collector. >> sounds like trying to blame someone else for one's problems. if it is a problem for the obsessive collector it is not the seller's fault. what is the seller supposed to do? set both a reserve low AND high bid????? tb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: RE: (exotica) April Fools Date: 01 Mar 2001 11:39:15 -0800 Does Milli Vanilli Count? Hi every one! I just got the go ahead for another segment on CBC radio here in Canada. And I'm looking for interesting recordings about Pranks or Frauds or Fake Bands. Any ideas? Anybody have any ifo on Uri Geller? wasn't he found out to be a fraud? Thanks, Brian Linds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: RE: (exotica) April Fools Date: 01 Mar 2001 13:40:50 -0600 If we're able to include "alter egos", then one of my favorites is XTC putting out a couple of albums of psychedelia as The Dukes Of The Stratosphear. Also, I think Stewart Copeland, drummer for The Police, released an EP as Klark Kent. And remember when Warren Zevon joined with a Stipe-less REM to form Hindu Love Gods? That was awesome... OK, I think I'm waaaay off track now. I'll stop... -Indy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Usselman, Lawrence J" Subject: RE: (exotica) April Fools Date: 01 Mar 2001 14:50:35 -0500 Speaking of frauds, how about "Lola" by the Kinks? Larry -----Original Message----- Hi every one! I just got the go ahead for another segment on CBC radio here in Canada. And I'm looking for interesting recordings about Pranks or Frauds or Fake Bands. Any ideas? Anybody have any ifo on Uri Geller? wasn't he found out to be a fraud? Thanks, Brian Linds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Shiman" Subject: Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 19:56:52 >sounds like trying to blame someone else for one's problems. if it is a >problem for the obsessive collector it is not the seller's fault. what is >the seller supposed to do? set both a reserve low AND high bid????? > >tb > Nah, I'm not blaming the sellers. What I take issue with is this bogus idea - which ebay promulgates - that as buyers of collectible goods we're supposed to believe that "everybody's a winner on ebay". -Dan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 21:13:28 +0100 Gentlemen! for how long did we not have an "argument" such like this here! Almost forgot how good it feels when the adrenalin concentration rises above the normal level. Ebay again... Have we not been aware of the fact that the "system ebay" means, that the richest guy in the whole wide world gets the record? I must admit I haven't seen it clearly myself in the very beginning. I only saw the advantages for collectors to find a record they wouldn't usually ever see in a shop. But it's a fact. When the price of a record was formerly defined by the average default shop goer, now this customer has to compete with everybody on the planet. It seems like the advantage is clearly on the seller's side (but try to sell a Witney Huston record from 1995, and you will find, that it's still a question of supply and demand). But that the prices for virtually everything would somewhat rise with the ebay system, is that so surprising? Some people just CAN pay hundreds of $$ for records. Even if we see them as fools: they don't care. Looks like we old school hunters and collectors have to go back to the thrift stores, although even there the competition has increased: the chance to make big bucks with old records on ebay surely gave a lot more people the idea to systematically search the common sources. But is it that bad to go back to the roots of record hunting? We can even sell records on ebay ourselves for big $$ to the fools who are willing to pay it. I don't remember anybody complaining about Jack Diamond because he did just that. We can't change it anyway. It's too late. Alea jacta est. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 15:32:45 -0500 At 06:18 AM 3/1/01 -0800, Ben Waugh wrote: > >What? > >We are all complicit in the hiked up prices we gripe >about and pay. What's the big deal about the guy >turning a profit on us compulsively competitive >bidders? Or thanking us for the fact? Four guys on this list bid on a record and the price is driven up. Then the seller comes on and says "thanks for bidding on my record, thus driving up the price". If the seller was a friend of mine, I might smile while I told him to fuck off. I might think "yeah it is kind of funny the way we helped you make money there". I'd grumble but I'd laugh it off. If however the seller is a stranger and this is his first post ever, then I have to agree with Brian. That was my first thought too. It's not his fault that the bidding drove the price up and I don't resent him for making a profit. And I wouldn't have resented him in the least if he'd just been another guy with a record to sell. But when he comes to my home and waves the money in my face and says "hey guys thanks. Hope I can find more records you want so that you guys can drive the price up and in the end none of you will actually get it because the price will be too high for any of you", then yeah I start to think of synonyms for asshole. Now maybe the guy didn't mean it that way. But it sure sounded like it. And it was a suspicious way for a lurker to make his first ever post. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 15:34:14 -0500 At 10:03 AM 3/1/01 EST, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > ..AND you don't know jack about this list other than the fact that you can pick a few dollars off it... Right on JB. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: : Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 15:40:13 -0500 At 10:21 AM 3/1/01 -0500, Clayton Black wrote: > Maybe Larry shouldn't have sounded so predatory about his >methods, but I can't blame him. When I see albums I own going for high >prices I feel the pull--maybe I should sell it? (I won't do it, but it >wouldn't be wrong if I did.) At the risk of repeating myself, it was the "sound" of his post that made some of us react the way we did. I'm going to put some records on ebay myself eventually and I hope that every one of them goes for a hundred dollars. However if one of my records does go for a lot of money and I look at the bidding history and I see that five guys bid on it and the four "losers" all hang out in one place, I'm not going to go to that place and say "Hey guys, thanks for helping me make all this money!" It's just impolite. And if it was a bar and they were drinking, it would be dangerous too. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Usselman, Lawrence J" Subject: RE: Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 15:44:03 -0500 Alan, the more I think about my original post, I can see how that perception could be made. It certainly wasn't my intention to flaunt this auction and my profits in anyone's face. I actually thought it was pretty neat that I had found something that was interesting enough for 3 or 4 people from this list to bid on. My purpose in reading this list and making that first post was not to generate future sales...I've truly developed an appreciation for many of the musical styles discussed here and have enjoyed the conversations. I apologize if I offended anyone or created any ill-will. I'll continue to read the list, and hopefully will have something constructive to contribute in the future. Best regards, Larry -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 3:33 PM Four guys on this list bid on a record and the price is driven up. Then the seller comes on and says "thanks for bidding on my record, thus driving up the price". If the seller was a friend of mine, I might smile while I told him to fuck off. I might think "yeah it is kind of funny the way we helped you make money there". I'd grumble but I'd laugh it off. If however the seller is a stranger and this is his first post ever, then I have to agree with Brian. That was my first thought too. It's not his fault that the bidding drove the price up and I don't resent him for making a profit. And I wouldn't have resented him in the least if he'd just been another guy with a record to sell. But when he comes to my home and waves the money in my face and says "hey guys thanks. Hope I can find more records you want so that you guys can drive the price up and in the end none of you will actually get it because the price will be too high for any of you", then yeah I start to think of synonyms for asshole. Now maybe the guy didn't mean it that way. But it sure sounded like it. And it was a suspicious way for a lurker to make his first ever post. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 22:03:13 +0100 (CET) All, Can we please change subject now! Gentleman Magnus is tired of seeing that subject line :| Updated today: -----------Go Buzz!------------ http://www.bellybongo.com/gobuzz/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: buMp Subject: (exotica) 3 gentlemen? Date: 01 Mar 2001 16:15:33 -0500 with retorts like this, i say WELCOME! we all suffer from ASSHOLISM (to quote local boy john waters) now and again. you have to understand that the people on this list are very passionate about this music and are into it for the love of it, not the profit. so to sorta barge in and speak of the wonders of the large profits being made on us is kinda "assholy". but i understand your intention, i feel as if you kinda like the prodigal son. (i do not bid on record on ebay so you are cool with me) welcome to the hi-volital world of exotica! bump >Hey, ain't nothing wrong with assholes...we'd all be full of shit without >one! =) > >Larry ****************************************************** ***************************** ************* DJ Bump "Primitive Rhythms for Evolved Minds" Defective Records-Executive Producer bump@defectiverecords.com http://www.defectiverecords.com "Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) April Fools Date: 02 Mar 2001 08:38:09 +1100 on 2/3/01 4:32 AM, HOUSEOBOB@aol.com at HOUSEOBOB@aol.com wrote: > "The Masked Marauders" was an "anonymous" supersession that was > released by Reprise (no date on the album, most likely around 1969). People > were led to believe that Dylan, Jagger and the Beatles were involved. > Whether anyone actually believed that was Jagger singing "I Can't Get No > Nookie", I'm not sure. The liner notes are by "T.M.Christian" T.M. Christian (The Magic Christian) is Ringo Starr if my memeory serves. Philip -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) April Fools Date: 02 Mar 2001 08:38:10 +1100 on 2/3/01 3:56 AM, Brian Linds at woodlind@island.net wrote: > Anybody have any ifo on Uri Geller? wasn't he > found out to be a fraud? Thanks, Was there ever any doubt? Magician James Randi spent a lot of time debunking him and fighting in court over defamation too I think. I have just transferred most of Uri's album to CDR if you're interested. Philip -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) 3 gentlemen? Date: 01 Mar 2001 23:16:56 +0100 (CET) citerar buMp : > > with retorts like this, i say WELCOME! > > we all suffer from ASSHOLISM (to quote local boy john waters) Which movie was that? Was it the one where the murderers and the retards lived in a city in the forest? Where the leaing lady, oh maybe not lady screams to the kids in the beginning of the movie: How are you ever gonna pay pack the five minutes you stole from my life, I hate you, your parents and everyone connected with you" Or something like that, how many laughs I got from that picture. So damn dark. I couldnt watch it now, not after my psychosis. Or was it in Pink Flamingos? Magnus -----------Go Buzz!------------ http://www.bellybongo.com/gobuzz/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 14:22:26 -0800 (PST) Here's my final on this. A stranger introduces himself, thanks us for bidding and then thanks us all around for lining his pockets. He probably could have finessed the sentences a bit more, but I for one never got the sense of intended gloating. Larry came out of the cold in response to the tired thread regarding how we piranhas frenzied after a particular item he was selling. I thought it made a nice end to the matter: thanks for going against your principles and participating in my auction. And he is here now and can speak to this if he cares to correct deny, impugn, etc. Maybe my close reading skills need some polishing or I'm overly callous, but I don't see how it's ok to agree that calling the guy an asshole, based on that first post (before he began to generalize about all group members), is a legitimate - if we are too sophisticated to say "gentlemanly" - response. Whew. Sorry for going on - but this whole "post-punk" rudeness and "in-your-face" as first reaction chic (exploited by our consumer culture, which all we buyers and bidders are shaped by and complicit in)is getting tired. I retire. BW --- alan zweig wrote: .... > Now maybe the guy didn't mean it that way. > But it sure sounded like it. .... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: RE: Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 16:25:25 -0600 Larry, Since I am the one responsible for the "pretentious fop" comment, let me explain....I wrote that because I thought you sounded condescending towards the bidders and listmembers, plus I've waited years to use that adjective and this was the first chance I got. After listening to your comments, I am sorry. I am also sorry for my part in getting the group all stirred up. Who knew such a laid-back, easy listening group had such Passion! Must be the jungle drums.... Colleen Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 14:37:53 -0800 (PST) Right. Jack was very personal and quick with insults (some of which had great humor value. I do miss the guy)And whether or not that tendency is a part of his nature that he cannot master, my feeling is that some people on this list feel that a knowledgeable hipster has a sort papal infallibility about him. A tolerance denied tradesman and the uninitiated. --- Moritz R wrote: I don't remember anybody > complaining about Jack Diamond because he did just > that. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: (exotica) White Goddess and Kapp --add Modern, Kent & Crown Date: 01 Mar 2001 18:20:12 -0600 Thanks for the info, Clayton. I'm getting the idea that Kapp had two or three tiers of releases: budget tributes to mostly minor artists by no-name artists; recordings like White Goddess, Eartha Kitt, etc.; and the high-end Gold Medallion LPs. Can you or anyone verify? Hunted for a Kapp website--no luck. Recently learned about this comprehensive site for the Bihari Brothers' labels, Modern, Kent, & Crown. (Thanks, Jeff!) No coverups the Biharis' seamier business practices either. The developers are looking for people who can fill in missing info. Maybe some of you want to oblige them. http://www.bsnpubs.com/modern/modernstory.html Mimi Clayton wrote: I never thought of Kapp as being a budget label. I don't collect them, by any means, but as far as I know all of Roger Williams albums were on Kapp, and Kapp had a fairly nice "high-end" series (Gold Medallion) with the requisite brass and percussion complement... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) April Fools Date: 01 Mar 2001 19:14:42 -0500 HOUSEOBOB@aol.com wrote: > "The Masked Marauders" was an "anonymous" supersession that was released by Reprise (no date on the album, most likely around 1969). People were led to believe that Dylan, Jagger and the Beatles were involved. === The folks behind the actual Masked Marauders LP (which I have) were, or so I've heard, a bunch of musos who used to hang around the Freight & Salvage's folk/old time music scene. These same people were recorded by Mike Seeger on "Berkeley Farms: Oldtime and Country Style Music of Berkeley," Folkways FA 2436 (1972) (which I also have). Can I confirm from listening to the two that it's the same personnel? No, but it seems just possible enough that I've considered this mystery solved (at least for myself). lousmith@pipeline.com other pranks: Trubee's Blind Man's Penis Darleen and Jonathan Edwards answer records recordings of Bridey Murphey (http://skepdic.com/bridey.html) backwards messages (http://www.skepdic.com/backward.html ) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brett Leveridge Subject: Re: (exotica) April Fools Date: 01 Mar 2001 19:26:38 -0500 (EST) This urban legends website claims it all began with "a joke review of a non-existent album" in Rolling Stone written by Griel Marcus under a pseudonym. The site further claims that Marcus and RS writer/editor Langdon recruited a group of Berkeley musicians (supposedly, according to the site, the members of The Cleanliness and Godliness Skiffle Band) to record a record matching the one described in the review: http://www.snopes2.com/music/artists/masked.htm Brett ************************************************** Brett Leveridge's "Men My Mother Dated and Other Mostly True Tales" is now in a bookstore near you. Order signed copies at: http://www.menmymotherdated.com >> "The Masked Marauders" was an "anonymous" supersession >> that was released by Reprise (no date on the album, most >> likely around 1969). People were led to believe that >> Dylan, Jagger and the Beatles were involved. > === > The folks behind the actual Masked Marauders LP (which I have) > were, or so I've heard, a bunch of musos who used to hang around > the Freight & Salvage's folk/old time music scene. These > same people were recorded by Mike Seeger on "Berkeley Farms: > Oldtime and Country Style Music of Berkeley," Folkways FA > 2436 (1972) (which I also have). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 19:36:58 EST In a message dated 3/1/1 3:12:08 PM, moritz@derplan.com wrote: >I don't remember anybody complaining about Jack Diamond because he did just that. All due respect to Jack--he is passionate beyond belief--I have NEVER bought a rekkid from him because he is in that camp. And I've found most of what he offers anyhow. I guess I like my capitalism the way I like nightclub sex...anonymously. and holding my breath!~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 19:45:16 EST In a message dated 3/1/1 5:23:07 PM, sophisticatedsavage@yahoo.com wrote: >his whole "post-punk" >rudeness and "in-your-face" as first reaction chic >(exploited by our consumer culture, which all we >buyers and bidders are shaped by and complicit in)is >getting tired. So if anything goes, then--as Zappa said-- its simply situational ethics ...JB/If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 01 Mar 2001 17:06:28 -0800 (PST) Not my point, DJ. But I think you know that. --- DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > > So if anything goes, then--as Zappa said-- its > simply situational ethics > ...JB/If you don't stand for something, you'll fall > for anything ===== "Grunt Big for Daddy." - Thomas Paine __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) April Fools Date: 01 Mar 2001 19:03:10 -0800 (PST) --- nytab@pipeline.com wrote: > > "The Masked Marauders" was an "anonymous" > supersession that was > released by Reprise (no date on the album, most > likely around 1969). People > were led to believe that Dylan, Jagger and the > Beatles were involved. What was the name of the group that supposedly sounded so much like the Doors that rumor spread that the lizard elvis had faked his death and was singing incognito in this band? I think Electra actually got riled up over it. > lousmith@pipeline.com > > other pranks: > Trubee's Blind Man's Penis Great record. Sort of in that... vein is Killer Pussy's Teenage Enema Nurses in Bondage, The Beat Farmers' Are You Drinking with me Jesus? and The Forgotten Rebels' Surfin' on Heroin. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) all gentlemen agree Date: 02 Mar 2001 12:12:13 +0100 Ben, this is the final statement. I completely agree with you. And: You have my vote for the Justice of the Peace of this list. Mo Ben Waugh schrieb: > Here's my final on this. A stranger introduces > himself, thanks us for bidding and then thanks us all > around for lining his pockets. He probably could have > finessed the sentences a bit more, but I for one never > got the sense of intended gloating. > > Larry came out of the cold in response to the tired > thread regarding how we piranhas frenzied after a > particular item he was selling. I thought it made a > nice end to the matter: thanks for going against your > principles and participating in my auction. And he is > here now and can speak to this if he cares to correct > deny, impugn, etc. > > Maybe my close reading skills need some polishing or > I'm overly callous, but I don't see how it's ok to > agree that calling the guy an asshole, based on that > first post (before he began to generalize about all > group members), is a legitimate - if we are too > sophisticated to say "gentlemanly" - response. > > Whew. Sorry for going on - but this whole "post-punk" > rudeness and "in-your-face" as first reaction chic > (exploited by our consumer culture, which all we > buyers and bidders are shaped by and complicit in)is > getting tired. > -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Usselman, Lawrence J" Subject: (exotica) Pretentious Fop...? Date: 02 Mar 2001 07:55:10 -0500 Awww, c'mon Colleen...just when I was starting to like the idea of strutting around in a powdered wig, velvet pantaloons, ruffled shirt, a little finger dipped into a snuff box and a lace hankie grasped in the other hand....*LOL* Thanks for the note...hopefully my future postings will be more informative than inflammatory. ----------- A side note...had a chance last night to listen to the webcast of Darrell Brogdon's Retro Cocktail Hour on KANU-FM at the Univ of Kansas. Great show, and particularly enjoyed the interview with Kirby Allen (Chaino's producer/manager). I had some email correspondence with Kirby a few months back and found him to be quite an interesting character! Larry -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 5:25 PM Cc: exotica@lists.xmission.com Larry, Since I am the one responsible for the "pretentious fop" comment, let me explain....I wrote that because I thought you sounded condescending towards the bidders and listmembers, plus I've waited years to use that adjective and this was the first chance I got. After listening to your comments, I am sorry. I am also sorry for my part in getting the group all stirred up. Who knew such a laid-back, easy listening group had such Passion! Must be the jungle drums.... Colleen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) all gentlemen agree Date: 02 Mar 2001 05:42:58 -0800 (PST) I can't take the job. I know myself too well. It would begin with avuncular intercessions and evolve into hits and lavish purges. --- Moritz R wrote: > > Ben, this is the final statement. I completely agree > with you. > And: You have my vote for the Justice of the Peace > of this list. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Flute and bongos, nice combination Date: 02 Mar 2001 16:48:10 +0100 (CET) Don Ralke Bongo Madness LP Crown CLP 5019 Listening to Bongo Madness right now, it is good, more relaxed and calm than I thought it would be, more exotica than afro cuban, some originals by Ralke are particularly good. Buddy Colette talks on the flute and Jack Burger on the bongos. On Crown records so there are (is?) a lot of surface noise. Would make a nice twofer CD with Milt Raskins "Kapu/Exotic Percussion" but it is not as great at that one. I would love a cd reissue of Raskins masterpiece and hear it without all that surface noise. Bongo Madness is absolutely worth picking up, Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: (exotica) April fools gentlemen Date: 02 Mar 2001 18:18:37 One of my favourite 'fake' bands were Klaatu, who weren't really fake but refused to do press and allowed the rumour to get around that they were a secret Beatles reunion. I have been told that the Carpenters thought 'calling occupants of interplanetary craft' (my favourite of their songs and much better than the original version) was a George Harrison song when they did it! Great drugs obviously. And will people lay off the new guy? i wouldn't mind if you were molotov cocktail toting, credit card hacking, anti-capitalist revolutionaries. But short of that you're just not in a fucking reasonable position. whoops the censor might get me. rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RoTone@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Book of Tiki excised chapters Date: 02 Mar 2001 17:34:14 EST I recall someone posting about the fact that 3 chapters were taken out of the original book before the publishing, including one on music. Is there any possibility that Sven Kirsten would agree to having those chapters posted online? I would even be willing to pay a small fee for the privelige of seeing the additional material. I'm sure I'm not the only one. Is there anyone who could propose this to the author? Thanks Jon Cook # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) 3 from the Scout Report Date: 02 Mar 2001 23:48:59 -0500 9. Hawaiian Newspapers, War Records, and Trust Territory Image Collections [.tif] http://128.171.57.100/ Created by the University of Hawai'i System Libraries, this site contains three collections of digitized images. The first features images of Hawaiian language newspapers published from 1834 to 1948. They include stories, photos, advertisements, letters to the editor, and other content. The quality of images varies. The second collection comes from the Hawai'i War Records Depository (HWRD), and in addition to the photos, this section also provides information on the holdings of the HWRD, contact information, and a link to an online catalog. The third, and largest, collection includes approximately 8,000 images from the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands (TTPI) archives. The photos are browsed by "reel" number and are offered as large thumbnails with links to full-size JPEG or TIFF images. The photos may also be keyword searched using an internal search engine. Links to further information about the four separate, self-governing districts that once composed the TTPI are also provided. [MD] 13. The Merchants of Cool -- PBS [RealPlayer] http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/cool/ The companion site to this week's excellent _Frontline_ explores the symbiotic relationships between teens, the media, and the creators and sellers of popular culture. In the program, _Frontline_ correspondent Douglas Rushkoff interviews marketers, media executives, cultural/media critics, and members of the teen market that the former are so desperately trying to reach (and create). Among other things, Rushkoff explores the "mook" (young male) and "midriff" (young female) stereotypes and the marketing of supposedly anti-establishment rage rockers. At the site, visitors can explore the major themes of the film, read interview transcripts and the reactions of teens who viewed the program, and learn about some of the companies and media giants featured in the film. Also included are a discussion list, a teacher's guide, and some additional short features. [MD] 14. Traveling Culture: Circuit Chautauqua in the Twentieth Century -- LOC [.pdf] http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/award98/iauhtml/tccchome.html The latest addition to the American Memory Project highlights a University of Iowa Libraries collection of talent brochures and other materials from one of the largest booking agencies for Chautauqua performers. The site presents "7,949 publicity brochures, promotional advertisements and talent circulars for some 4,546 performers who were part of the Chautauqua circuit." These may be searched by keyword or browsed by subject or name. The digitized images are offered as thumbnails with links to a full-size .jpg image or .pdf file, accompanied by bibliographic information. The site also links to a brief online essay on Chautauqua. [MD] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) LANGUAGE Date: 02 Mar 2001 23:24:18 -0600 Well, I think JB proved that it's not the @#%#@** language that keeps posts from coming through. JB, you are quite fluent. LOL Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: Re: (exotica) three gentlemen fail to agree Date: 02 Mar 2001 22:14:59 -0800 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Usselman, Lawrence > J > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 12:44 PM > Alan, the more I think about my original post, I can see how that > perception > could be made. It certainly wasn't my intention to flaunt this auction and > my profits in anyone's face. Man I just hope you're not this one seller on eBay who has all this great stuff and is totally cleaning up. There's this particular seller (ok, I'm bidding on one of her/his auctions right now) who has: Jean-Jacques Perrey's "Mood Indigo" LP *and* Dan Penn's "Nobody's Fool" LP (that one just went over $100) *and* Little Jimmy Scott's "The Source" LP (that one I really want) *and* that Kali Bahlu album. God I want 'em all. A little depressed, Ben np: drowningman, "rock and roll killing machine" http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara ICQ: 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Ebay, Record Dealers and Collectors Date: 02 Mar 2001 22:19:47 -0800 This stuff is just plain common sense... everyone who collects anything eventually realizes this: * You Have To Pay To Be Lazy * It stands to reason that if you take the path of least resistence, (ie: typing "les+baxter" into the ebay search box) you are going to pay more than the fella who gets up at 5 am to be to the swap meet before most people have their morning coffee. A dealer may have to buy up whole collections of worthless "Whipped Cream and Other Delights" to get the odd Esquivel or Les Baxter in the batch. If someone is going to that trouble to gather together an inventory, you're going to pay him a premium for his efforts. There's nothing at all wrong with any of that... If you have very little money, then you shouldn't be shopping at trendy record boutiques and high traffic auctions... You should haunt thrift stores, go to swap meets, search out garage sales, and save your money and buy batches of records from people dumping whole collections at a quantity discount... in other words... Do your own legwork! Don't gripe that the guy who sits on his duff typing in ebay search boxes is ruining things for you, because that isn't true at all. * Auctions Don't Set Values * The hammer price at auction is *by definition* a higher price than anyone else bidding is interested in paying. It doesn't mean that is what the item is *worth*. It means on THAT day THAT ONE BIDDER was willing to pay that. It's a lot easier for someone to pay double what something is worth if it costs $10, than if it's worth $500. That's why the average stuff is so volitile sometimes. But these are flukes. It doesn't mean that if you put YOUR copy of "Hugo Piggerwiggle and his Mambo Maniacs Play the Beatles" that you are going to get the same price that the first seller did. After the first copy, the law of supply and demand will kick in, and the price will start to drop. * Lemmings Pay A Premium * If a record is pictured on the cover of Re:Search's books, you are going to pay through the nose for it. Everyone with a tiny bit of experience in this sort of music knows Esquivel, Les Baxter and Martin Denny. But that doesn't mean that these are the only good records in the world. There are a LOT of really good cheap records to be had. You just have to explore the outer edges where the average person hasn't gotten to yet, and be willing to risk a buck on something new. It helps to have broad and adventurous tastes in music. It doesn't help to feel that someone else has to write about something being good before you will acknowledge it yourself. Be your own trendsetter... don't let Irwin Chisud define what *your* tastes are. * My Tip For Finding Cheap Music * I've mentioned it here before, and I guess I'll say it again, even though I'll probably be making competition for myself at ebay... If you like older music and you don't have a turntable capable of playing 78's, you are missing out on a sure thing. Right now, 78s are plentiful and relatively valueless. You can find lots of music of all types from the turn of the century through the late 50s, that aren't available on LP or CD, for as low as 25 cents a record at ebay. If they have been reissued on CD, odds are the original 78s sound BETTER. People have this idea that 78s sound scratchy... that it's hard to get equipment to play them... that they are very rare and expensive. None of this is true. They sound great, they're easy to find needles for, and they are DIRT CHEAP. In short, use your brain, your ears and your legs. The lazy lemming with no tastes of his own always pays more. Who wants to be a lazy lemming? That's my two cents... and I didn't have to resort to vulgarities! See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Grind & Polish Date: 02 Mar 2001 22:19:49 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >have you ever tried if such a "grind & polish" CD repair kit also >works on CD-R's? You can buff out even really deep scratches with any good plexiglas polish. It's cheaper than those fancy kits and it works better too. I use Meguiars Mirror Glaze 17 Professional Plastic Cleaner. But any brand would work as well. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Permanence Date: 02 Mar 2001 22:19:51 -0800 >I read somewhere that LPs will function in 100 years, CDs will function >in 30 years, CDrs will function in 10 years, can someone verify this? >If this is true, I am glad I can listen to my LPs the rest of my life. >A record from -59 will last until 2059, when I am 90. CDs will need a >lot of upgrades. What about 78s? -Magnus I have 78's from the turn of the century that sound as good as the day they were made. That puts them over the 100 year mark. Some 78s are subject to lamination cracking, but that is mostly the cheaper ones from the fifties. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jim gerwitz" Subject: (exotica) Assholeism Date: 02 Mar 2001 23:18:29 -0800 Magnus, here's your quote from Desperate Living, my favorite John Waters film for the first half at least. If you need a laugh at least go back to Polyester and Hairspray (for Sonny Bono, Debbie Harry, and beatnik Pia Zadora.) From the IMDB Desperate Living quotes: Peggy Gravel: "Hello? What number are you calling? You've dialed the wrong number! Sorry? What good is that? How can you ever repay the last thirty seconds you have stolen from my life? I hate you, your husband, your children, and your relatives!" Then on to Mortville with her maid Grizelda just in time for Queen Carlotta's Backwards Day exclamations of "Hey asshole, you got your pants on backwards. HAHAHAHAHA....." Damn, now I gotta watch this tomorrow. Here's the fabulous Mink Stole again as Connie Marble in Pink Flamingos: "I guess there's just two kinds of people, Ms. Sandstone; my kind of people and assholes. It's rather obvious which category you fit into. Have a nice day." Pink Flamingos was a first date movie for me and my wife, and I bought some John Cougar Mellencamp LP just because Edith Massey is on the cover and I HAD to have it. Coming out of his own shell of depression, Jim The Egg Man (who hasn't had to bid on a Barbarella LP because someone posted the whole thing on Usenet mp3.soundtracks.) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Assholeism Date: 03 Mar 2001 12:30:21 +0100 (CET) citerar jim gerwitz : > > Magnus, here's your quote from Desperate Living, my favorite John Waters > film for the first half at least. If you need a laugh at least go back to > Polyester and Hairspray (for Sonny Bono, Debbie Harry, and beatnik Pia > Zadora.) Hi Jim! Well I purchased nearly all of his films when they came out as tapes in britain some 8 years ago, I sold some old ones that I did not like, but I still have most of them. I also liked Desperate living the most. Polyester I saw on its premiere in Sweden, I was just a kid back then, so I did not think it gave me that much (Except when one guy gets his head cut off ;) That I loved.) I saved the "smell paper" a long time, the pizza smell was still there 7-8 years after. Then I lost it when we moved to a new house. Baltimore to me is John Waters. If I go there sometime I would like to be served by Edith Massey, but she is dead, isnt she? How is his new films? The ones after Serial Mom I have not seen. Thanks very much for the quotes! Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Permanence Date: 03 Mar 2001 13:31:10 +0100 (CET) Hi Steve Thanks for your comments! I read your mail about record dealers and collecting after your own=20 taste. I couldnt agree more, however, look at it from my side, I live=20 in Sweden, very little exotica records here, if i found something good=20 on the fleamarket I buy it, and often they are funny/great. The kind of=20 records I value is still often ignored here. As a compliment I order=20 stuff from America, becase there I can easily find great items, so what=20 shall I do? Order the cheapest records from the US and try them out, or=20 buy the more expensive ones that a lot of people have agreed is very=20 great, my money is limited, but I rather pay 20 dollars and 8 dollars=20 shipping costs for a record many people like than buy a record noone=20 else wants for 1 dollar + 8 dollars shipping that stinks. It is not that easy to find gems. When I follow the guidelines of Jack=20 Diamond, Stefan K=E9ry, Tony Wilds, Johan, Basic Hip and a lot of other=20 people on-list and off-list that I trust I am very seldom not satisfied. I also think it is great to belong in some sort of group were you can=20 discuss the same thing and not just: Person A: Look at this record, you=20 have never seen it before, it is great, Person B: Yeah, but look at=20 this record, this is great and you have never heard about it! See my point? It is however quite groovy to own a record noone knows about who is as=20 good as the other precious LP people rate very high. I still have about 25 known exotica LP musts, when I get them all,=20 there will probably be 100 more, then maybe it will be private presses,=20 but to finance them I must sell my exotica LPs. Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Kenyon Hopkins query Date: 03 Mar 2001 13:50:05 +0100 (CET) Any Kenyon Hopkins collector on the list? How is his "Rooms" LP? I saw the cover and it looked brilliant -----------Go Buzz!------------ http://www.bellybongo.com/gobuzz/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Assholeism Date: 03 Mar 2001 13:57:27 +0100 (CET) citerar jim gerwitz : > Jim The Egg Man > (who hasn't had to bid on a Barbarella LP because someone posted the whole > thing on Usenet mp3.soundtracks.) Does not MP3 sound very digital and compressed? Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) finite demand? Date: 03 Mar 2001 08:11:51 EST In a message dated 3/1/01 2:47:49 PM US Eastern Standard Time, clayton.black@washcoll.edu writes: << I keep the faith that eventually all the people who really want Esquivel on vinyl will buy it, and the prices will begin to go down. I know that the supply is finite, but so is the demand. >> I can't agree with this. To me, this is like saying that the demand for first edition books will go down or the demand for original paintings will decrease. There are people who just want the music and don't care what format it's in, but fanatical collectors are much more interested in whether it's original pressing or not. This is why people are still spending lots of money for original Beatles records when the music is plentiful. As is the case with great art, literature, etc., more and more people will discover that Esquivel was great and will collect his originals. When I was a kid, Captain Beefheart played at a local bar in town and barely drew a crowd. No one bought his records. Now, his originals pressings are selling for big $. I suspect that more people are buying Esquivel records, CDs, etc. now than when he was active. Others who were actually aware of Esquivel in the early 60's might be able to confirm this. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Stanley Wilson "Pagan Love" Date: 03 Mar 2001 14:13:31 +0100 (CET) Just when you thought you heard enough of ebay... I am writing this just to tell you of some of the good people dealing there and the good people around here, I stepped onto this record on ebay some week ago, purchased it instantly, costed me $8. (Buy it now) The problem was the seller only shipped to the US, I asked the Exotica ring people if some american guy/girl on the list could help me out, recieve it and the ship it to me, I got response from 10 people, all wanted to help me. When I contacted the seller she told me there were no problem sending it to Sweden, she just did not know how to fill in the form on ebay. Very nice girl, and we had some dialogue. After she had recieved my payments, she sended it out express which costed her more than the money I had sent her (She told me there were no big difference). It arrived today (SUNDAY!) and it is Mint. It is an OK record, not great, maybe after some more listenings.. But it is in my collection now, and I value it. So I will continue buy on ebay, my experience is that threre are very kind people there. And I am not the richest guy in the world. Magnus -----------Go Buzz!------------ http://www.bellybongo.com/gobuzz/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) Re: Japanese 6Ts Group Sounds Date: 03 Mar 2001 14:25:09 +0100 (MET) And not to forgett: V.A. Sixties Japanese Garage Psych Sampler LP, Corumbia CS 36,139 STEREO, USA 1987 With the Golden Cups, Dynamite, Beavers, Mops, Outcast etc but also no Tigers Maybe the first comp with that sound ? and V.A. Banzai Freakbeat, Pachinko Records, Lucky 777 CD, ? 199? This has IMO just one good cut: Hanashitakunai by the Youngsters no Tigers again Martin >> From: eat78rpm@bigfoot.com >> Anyone know anything about Japanese band The Tigers? >> Sem Sinatra, Agent Osaka > >> From: Ben Waugh >> Subject: Re: (exotica) The Tigers >> I have several lps, singles of Japanese "Group Sounds" >> (vocal) bands from the 60s. Many of these can be found >> on tastelessly titled compilation lps through Norton >> Records. > >Tasteless? Ben, their title is 80% the reason why I love to spend my >money on them! >They are: >"Hot Nips", voll. 1 + 2 (Dolemite); >the Norton catalogue defines them, respectively, as: >"warped japanese sixties garage combos galore!" (vol. 1) and >"still mo' nagasaki nuggets" (vol. 2). >Then there's >"Slitherama: Monster a Go-Go", with Godzilla on cover (Planet X), >which gets rated as "klayzee 60's jap-punk - godzilla size lock & >loll" and >"Project Blue, vol. 3: Diamonds From The East, Sixties Lost Punk >Gems From Hong Kong Bands" (Destination X). >All these are pure vinyl only, and the latter is only available from >my pal Scanna, who +compiled it. >As starters I'd# suggest: >"G.S. I Love You - Japanese* Garage Bands of the 60's" and >"G.S. I Love You Too", cds on Big Beat, which the mighty Hitomi >helped compile.’ >No Tigers on any of them, though. > >Sayonara >Gionni -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Stanley Wilson "Pagan Love" Some typos Date: 03 Mar 2001 14:29:39 +0100 (CET) citerar Magnus Sandberg : >costed me $8. (Buy it now) It costed $6 >It arrived today (SUNDAY!) It is off course Saturday Sorry Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Stanley Wilson "Pagan Love" Some typos Date: 03 Mar 2001 06:07:34 -0800 (PST) Cool record. Took me a few plays to appreciate it. I bought it for the artwork on the back cover. I picked up Bob Thompson's The Sound of Speed at the same thrify for the same reason (and because it was BT)... but have not yet been able to listen to it all the way through. --- Magnus Sandberg wrote: > > > citerar Magnus Sandberg : > > >costed me $8. (Buy it now) > > It costed $6 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Stanley Wilson "Pagan Love" Some typos Date: 03 Mar 2001 15:14:15 +0100 (CET) citerar Ben Waugh : > > Cool record. Took me a few plays to appreciate it. I > bought it for the artwork on the back cover Well the front is not bad either, quite thrilling. But I relly like the backcover illustrations, every girl in the world should see it so they understand man's occasional odd behaviour. ;) Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" Subject: RE: (exotica) Stanley Wilson "Pagan Love" Date: 03 Mar 2001 15:38:21 +0100 Magnus wrote: > So I will continue buy on ebay, my experience is that threre are very > kind people there. And I am not the richest guy in the world. I agree with Magnus. I have been buying on Ebay for about a year now and I have encountered a few very kind dealers who know what they are selling and are willing to do a little extra effort for their customers. It's also true that for us Europeans Ebay is a great way to buy (America) records that we wouldn't be able to buy at markets or thrift stores in a million years. Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: RE: (exotica) Stanley Wilson "Pagan Love" Date: 03 Mar 2001 15:54:02 +0100 (CET) citerar "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" : > > Marco wrote: It's also true > that for us Europeans Ebay is a great way to buy (America) records that we > wouldn't be able to buy at markets or thrift stores in a million years. Sometimes I wonder what will happen to my records when I pass away, the funniest thing were to see them go back to a fleamarket, My spirit will watch over them and if someone buys them I will follow him home, and if he/she does not like the record I will haunt him: I paid 40 dollars for that record 50 years ago! Now I aim to spook! Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ebay, Record Dealers and Collectors Date: 03 Mar 2001 12:02:59 -0500 >If you have very little money, then you shouldn't be shopping >at trendy record boutiques and high traffic auctions... You should >haunt thrift stores, go to swap meets, search out garage sales, As a shameless flea/thrift bottom-feeder, I would happily continue to ignore eBay and stick with the fleas. But the problem is -- and maybe (I hope) this is only a regional thing -- the flea market record dealers are disappearing! Instead of lugging their boxes around, they're staying at home in their jammies and putting the "choice" items on... EBAY. Not an unreasonable choice from their point of view, but it leaves me out of luck for my $1 thrill of the unknown. Or occasional hot find. (And no, I will not buy from eBay, and will not bore you with the reasons why.) It's not just a matter of whether or not eBay influences pricing overall. It's a matter of possibly closing off outlets of availability. Is anyone else seeing this disappearance? I also worry about what they're doing with the "non-choice" records. I sure hope they're not trashing them. I can't imagine they're putting them eBay... "Joe Schlabotnik and the Brass Railers - Polka Cha Cha Singalong Vinyl in rough condition, several deep gouges on Side Two. Cover seams split, with large tear across front. Mild mildew growth. Water stains on back. Odor ranking of 7. Minimum bid $0.50" --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Ebay Date: 03 Mar 2001 09:11:13 -0800 At 02:13 PM 03-03-01 +0100, Magnus wrote: >So I will continue buy on ebay, my experience is that threre are very >kind people there. Because it is "virtual", Ebay is sometimes viewed with suspicion and concern than other more limited shopping experiences. And, of course, it is an auction, which makes it even more treacherous. Certainly, the term "let the buyer beware" applies. HOWEVER, I consider Ebay (or any internet auction service...it just so happens ebay is the largest and thus capable of serving up a wider variety of items) a major service for me. After making at least 400 purchases through Ebay in the last two years...everything from furniture to miniature Coke bottles (and, of course, records), I have had only had a few difficulties...and usually because of the post office or some miscommunication. Many of these items I would never have found in any other way! The Coke bottles I mentioned I had been searching for at every second hand store I walked into for the past 32 years. Once I did a search on ebay I found 7 of them within a month! And the people I encounter are usually very nice, helpful, considerate. Certainly they benefit from it financially, but I get something I am interested in at a price I can afford (otherwise, why did I bid that amount?). If you can control your own bidding, remember the mailing costs, get over the winning-losing frame of mind and take proper precautions when conducting a transaction, ebay is a wonderful thing and the people who participate in it, buyers and sellers, all benefit. Byron ___...--''''***^^^^^^""""""^^^^^***''''---___ "You've got to stand for something or ||| you'll fall for anything." ||| ||| ---John Mellencamp ||| ||| ||| |||bag AT hubris DOT net Portland, OR, USA||| """^^^'''***----...__________...----'''^^^""" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ebay Date: 03 Mar 2001 18:41:11 +0100 (CET) citerar bag@hubris.net: >Coke bottles, I used to collect those too, I had about ten different volume sizes. I wonder how many there are... Some from Jugoslavia and Greece. Sorry Byron, they were lost when I moved to an own apartment otherwise I would have given them to you. Actually I dont have anything to collect that is cheap, In fleamarkets I first check LPs, if I dont find any I check books, then art. But fun thriftstore art is as rare here as exotica. It is basically the same prints everywere. And finding a hawaiian shirt that is goodlooking is impossible. So is Tikimugs. I have found one tiki item, A very nice porcelain (correct spelling?) statue of Ku. And some year ago Adam Axelsson found two mugs from Kahiki. Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) Magnus! Date: 03 Mar 2001 11:57:44 -0600 Magnus wrote: Sometimes I wonder what will happen to my records when I pass away, the funniest thing were to see them go back to a fleamarket, My spirit will watch over them and if someone buys them I will follow him home, and if he/she does not like the record I will haunt him: I paid 40 dollars for that record 50 years ago! Now I aim to spook! ************************* Magnus, that is the funniest thought, I love the way your mind works. If you ask me, that sounds like a pilot for a new WB TV series, right along with Buffy the Vampire Slayer. LOL Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) Zodiac Cosmic Sounds Date: 03 Mar 2001 12:14:49 -0600 Hi Gang, I was telling my brother in law that you guys were the smarted group of people in the world when it came to exotica music. He has a request for you. He has an LP called Zodiac Cosmic Sounds by Mort Garson on Electra SKS74009. Each track is related to a Zodiac sign, ie: Aries, Libra and is sort of spoken with psychedelic music in the backround. It is pretty cool. His question: Does anyone know aboout this record or the guy who made it? Also, although he had it put on CD, it still sounds VERY scratchy, is it possible to digitally get out those sounds? Or is there another copy out there he could purchase? Thanks. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) Jonathan Perl Date: 03 Mar 2001 19:43:54 +0000 Sorry, I'm trying to get in touch with this (former?) lister. His DELICADO@prodigy.net account is dead. Jonny, are you reading? If so, please e-mail me off-list. Anyone knows another account? Thank you, and now back the scheduled program. Ciao Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) Collectors. Date: 03 Mar 2001 12:24:33 -0600 Okay, here's my question for You vinyl collectors out there. Are you purchasing that LP for the cover or for the music inside? And if it is out on CD, do you still want the LP? Or do you want that LP because it is rare and to get it would be a "coup", whether or not you care for the music? I'm just curious. Colleen/sounding a little like Alan... Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Casino Royale airings Date: 03 Mar 2001 13:47:08 -0500 "Casino Royale" (1967) pops up on AMC this Monday at 2:00pm, 8:00pm and 1:15am (eastern). The late night showing is supposed to be in letterbox format. Then again, same day, TCM has "What's New Pussycat?" (1966) at 6:00pm, if you'd like an additional Ursula Andress fix. Hmmm, furthermore, on Wednesday, TCM airs "The Thomas Crown Affair" (1968) at 6:15pm and "Breakfast at Tiffany's" (1961) at 8:00pm. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) The lyrics to "Deep Night" + pic of a Buzzimba Date: 03 Mar 2001 20:01:58 +0100 (CET) Anybody have that? I need it. I know most of it but there are a few lines I dont know. And does anybody have a picture of a buzzimba? Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ebay Date: 03 Mar 2001 11:37:09 -0800 Byron oh so correctly pointed out: > Many of these items I would never have found in any other way! < This is the key to it for me - a factor so important that it just cannot be overlooked. If there is something specific you are after, it is the first place to go. For example, I am constantly after two things in particular: fred lowery memoribila as well as obscure whistlers and bird recordings on 78, and vintage radio commercials / jingles / spots produced for broadcast use only. I could spend a weekend driving all over the San Francisco bay area, checking thrift stores, garage sales, used record stores, flea markets, estate sales and I'll betcha I'll come home empty handed. Maybe I'll find "whistle a happy tune", but I've got that one :) So I go to ebay, where I have "Fred Lowery", "whistling", "radio commercials", "radio spots", "advertising LPs", etc bookmarked and can locate them almost any given day. For those of you who have had unpleasant ebay experiences, you have my sypmpathies. In the two years I've used it, 99% of my transactions have been pleasant. I've found stuff that I never would have found otherwise. Like the sonovox kiddie 78s on Jacklee, "Whizzer" and "Chug Chug in Lollypop Town". True, you don't need ebay to find Martin Denny, but for diggin' up specialty items, it's the way to go. If you have never used it ebay and avoid it "just because", I'll continue to try to sway you because I think you are missing out on a a valuable source for finding exactly what you want. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: Re: (exotica) Collectors. Date: 03 Mar 2001 11:45:21 -0800 > Okay, here's my question for You vinyl collectors out there. > Are you purchasing that LP for the cover or for the music inside? > And if it is out on CD, do you still want the LP? Or do you want > that LP because it is rare and to get it would be a "coup", whether > or not you care for the music? As one writer pointed out, why buy the LP when you can download the whole thing in MP3 format from some site. Then there are others that only the LP will do - they want the actual object, the real thing, nothing else will do. A CD or CD-R will suffice until they find it then the CD goes in grandma's attic (or worse). They want to feel it, touch it, smell it. Like Sean said. I certainly prefer my records to CD's, they just make me feel better. I never buy for the cover and always open sealed records. OK, I'm on a roll - email ketchup time! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Ebay, Record Dealers and Collectors Date: 03 Mar 2001 14:38:11 EST In a message dated 3/3/01 9:03:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, mace@ookworld.com writes: << As a shameless flea/thrift bottom-feeder, I would happily continue to ignore eBay and stick with the fleas. But the problem is -- and maybe (I hope) this is only a regional thing -- the flea market record dealers are disappearing! Instead of lugging their boxes around, they're staying at home in their jammies and putting the "choice" items on... EBAY. Not an unreasonable choice from their point of view, but it leaves me out of luck for my $1 thrill of the unknown. Or occasional hot find. (And no, I will not buy from eBay, and will not bore you with the reasons why.) It's not just a matter of whether or not eBay influences pricing overall. It's a matter of possibly closing off outlets of availability. Is anyone else seeing this disappearance? >> I have; a local indie store recently closed down, leaving a sign saying to "check (their) auctions on eBay". (of course since their stock was mostly crap and they dealt more with Pearl Jam and No Doubt video bootlegs it was no big loss). I've also seen quite a few "about me" pages where the seller says s/he used to have a store, but closed it down to concentrate on eBay, etc. So there have been a few dealers "migrating" to eBay. (not that it's a part of eBay's Evil Plan for World Domination, but it's happening) In a way you can't blame them; why go through all the bother of lugging boxes all over the place, having to deal with hagglers and shoplifters, etc., when you can just do it all (mostly) hassle-free at home? Another thing I've noticed more and more when I'm going on a garage sale run and asking if they have any records for sale are people either saying they're holding on to their albums to sell on eBay or offering really scratchy and not-so-rare records at ridiculous prices because they heard they were "valuable". (I think the ultimate was when I saw a xxth-pressing Beatles record for $20 and an Eagles record for $10!!! I just laughed my ass off at that one.) Has anyone else noticed this particular trend? -DavidH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: Re: (exotica) Collectors. Date: 03 Mar 2001 14:51:17 -0500 >From: "Colleen Pyles" >>Okay, here's my question for You vinyl collectors out there. >Are you purchasing that LP for the cover or for the music inside? >And if it is out on CD, do you still want the LP? Or do you want >that LP because it is rare and to get it would be a "coup", whether >or not you care for the music? I'm just curious. Colleen/sounding a >little like Alan... > For the music. I have a few Esquivel records someone gave me but they are in a box somewhere. nice to have and look at but I listen to the CD's. It's easier. With all this talk of ebay and dealers I have to tell you about a trip to a record store in New Hapshire. Lots of great records a lot of them going for $60 (Julie's Calender Girl) to $100 (Ray Charles and Betty Carter). I went down to the celler ($2 a pop) a picked up a few nice things with bad records covers. You know ripped and taped or mono. Pat Suzuki and Bob Crewe, Linda Lawson. The guy was on his computer all the time. Told me was totally into ebay. (vinylman4533@earthlink.net) I can imagine him going thru the bins and posting what he things would sell. Told me that in the spring he has to beat people off with a stick they come in loaded with records from spring cleaning. Hey. He's got a good thing going. Maybe I should open a record store? I saw soo much neat stuff I would like to play on my radio show....but hey, it's under glass ready for some collector. I saw a Command record I may never see again: Dick Van Dyke singing! for $15. And I think Jack Diamond was a little agast when I told him, in the Luxuria chat, that I hardly spend more than $2 for a reccord. My wife hates the damm musty things anyways. Domenic Ciccone "Martinis with Mancini" WJUL 91.5FM Friday’s 6-9AM EST http://www.geocities.com/martinimancini/ http://wjul.cs.uml.edu/misc/wjul/wjul.html (On Real Audio) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Collectors. Date: 03 Mar 2001 11:57:06 -0800 At 12:24 PM 03-03-01 -0600, Colleenwrote: >Are you purchasing that LP for the cover or for the music inside? No, not just for either. >And if it is out on CD, do you still want the LP? Yes. >Or do you want >that LP because it is rare and to get it would be a "coup", whether >or not you care for the music? No. But, of course, rarely is anything purely black or white...and my answers could easily go the other way. It all depends. I purchase an LP primarilly for the music, but will pay more if it has a cool cover. I will pay for the cover only or the record only if I hope to unite them some day, but don't like just having a cover. I would buy a record for the cover if very cheap. That is my take on it. I know there are folks out there who really want that album cover art and could care less about the record. I want the record in good shape even if I buy the album for the cover and even if I don't like the music. Yes, that sounds dumb, but I just like to keep things together as they originally were produced. I am less apt to pay high money for an LP which is out on CD...but I do want to own the LP because it is more original and I get the large scale cover art. So, I own all of the Esquivel CDs that I know are out there and only some of the LPs. If I ever see one of the LPs that I do not have and already have a CD of, I will want to buy it...but only if it costs less than the CD cost! Your last question nags at me occasionally, for I have bought records which other people consider really great...yet I neither like the cover nor the music. You would think I would rush out to sell the darn thing (which I bought for 10-99 cents) and get a nice profit. But something tells me that I will eventually grow to like the music...so I keep it. However, I do wonder if I keep it just to say I own it! I may eventually change my mind when I have more records than storage capacity...or less spending money. Byron ___...--''''***^^^^^^""""""^^^^^***''''---___ "You've got to stand for something or ||| you'll fall for anything." ||| ||| ---John Mellencamp ||| ||| ||| |||bag AT hubris DOT net Portland, OR, USA||| """^^^'''***----...__________...----'''^^^""" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: (exotica) Ghosts of Vinyl Date: 03 Mar 2001 14:56:49 -0500 >Sometimes I wonder what will happen to my records when I pass away, the >funniest thing were to see them go back to a fleamarket, We always stop at this used furniture/junk store. Mostly estate stuff. Today I stop in and they tell me they just put out a box. Awesome! The first person there! It’s not picked over! What do I find? Stones, Cat Stevens, Bruce Springfield? "What!!", I ask the clerk. "People of my generation already dying?" But I did pick up something I overlooked before. Anthony Newley "Tells the Ultimate love story For You from the book by Jennings Cobb". Original score Composed and Conducted by Neely Plumb. (Newly hugging a nekkid chick on the back cover, kinds of looks like EVE Plumb ;’)) The first paragraph of the linear notes: “To begin, place this record on your record player, dim the lights, and take your favorite member of the opposite sex in your arms. If your fully dressed at the end of the record, perhaps you should discuss your early childhood with your analyst.” Listening to it now, Newley reciting the poems with mello orchestration. Its going into the Martini Mix. I also picked up an 8 track! Someone on the list send me a Moe Koffman album and it’s the only reason I picked this up: Moe Koffman Museum Pieces from 1978. Sounds interesting. 4 tracks. 1) Museum Piece Dinosaurs 9:15 2) Rocks(Mineralogy) Digs (Archeology) 9:30 3) Evolution Blues Pharoah’s Dream 9:30 4) Wildlife (Mammalogy) Days Gone By (Egyptology) 9:20 If anybody wants it just email me. I'll tell you if the record worked.....tomorrow. Domenic Ciccone "Martinis with Mancini" WJUL 91.5FM Friday’s 6-9AM EST http://www.geocities.com/martinimancini/ http://wjul.cs.uml.edu/misc/wjul/wjul.html (On Real Audio) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: Re: (exotica) Zodiac Cosmic Sounds Date: 03 Mar 2001 12:14:58 -0800 >Zodiac Cosmic Sounds by Mort > Garson on Electra SKS74009. Each track is related to a Zodiac sign, > ie: Aries, Libra and is sort of spoken with psychedelic music in the > backround. It is pretty cool. His question: Does anyone know aboout > this record or the guy who made it? Also, although he had it put on > CD, it still sounds VERY scratchy, is it possible to digitally get > out those sounds? Or is there another copy out there he could > purchase? That's a great record, ! Mort Garson did some really wild and trippy stuff. Keep an eye out for these: The Wozard of Iz (mind altering substances recommended) Electronic Hair Pieces The Unexplained Black Mass Lucifer Music for Sensuous Lovers (moaning and groaning and slurping sounds with electronic noodling) Then there was one for your plants as well as a complete series dedicated to the signs. One record for each sign! I use Sonic Foundry to remove pops, clicks and surface noise, and the results are hit and miss. Experince was taught me to use these features sparingly. Some recordings respond better than others. Pops and clicks are sometimes mistaken for sharp percussive effects, so the actual music is distorted. I prefer sampling surface noise during a quiet passage and removing it from "underneath" the music. if the record is really beat up, it's pretty hard to revive - all the noise just turns into muffled noise. This record was a reissue a couple of years ago - Jack Diamond may still have it. Of course, you could just head on over to ebay and type in Mort Garson and Bingo! You'll get three hits: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=1&Sort Property=MetaEndSort&query=%22mort+garson%22 Which is my point exactly regarding ebay. If you want it, there it is. Sure it may cost you thirty bucks, but at least you now have the *opportunity* to get it. Unless the vinyl gods are with you, that is not the kind of record you'll find in the dollar bins. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" Subject: RE: (exotica) Collectors. Date: 03 Mar 2001 21:24:43 +0100 Colleen wrote: > Okay, here's my question for You vinyl collectors out there. > Are you purchasing that LP for the cover or for the music inside? > And if it is out on CD, do you still want the LP? For me it's a combination of various factors. I buy most of my music on CD nowadays (and lots of 'em!), but I keep buying vinyl albums mostly for the look and "feel" of them. If a new release comes out on both CD and LP I go for the CD, because I find that much easier to use. Most vinyl that I buy now will - most likely - never come out on CD. For example, I just bought these LPs on Ebay: a Little Marcy LP, a Merrill Womach LP, 'Mallet magic' by Harry Breuer and 'Sounds in space' with narration by Ken Nordine. I will listen to them all, but the 'Sounds in Space' is mainly for the cover. The one by Harry Breuer is for the music though. There's one record that I absolutely HAD to have on vinyl, even though I already had it on CD: André Popp's 'Delirium in hi fi'. I love that record so much, that I didn't have to think twice about paying 35 bucks for it. I would never pay that much for a Little Marcy LP! Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" Subject: RE: (exotica) Magnus! Date: 03 Mar 2001 21:24:42 +0100 Colleen wrote: > Magnus, that is the funniest thought, I love the way your mind > works. If you ask me, that sounds like a pilot for a new WB TV > series, right along with Buffy the Vampire Slayer. LOL Magnus the Friendly Ghost!? MArco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Zodiac Cosmic Sounds Date: 03 Mar 2001 15:25:03 EST In a message dated 3/3/01 2:59:35 PM US Eastern Standard Time, Colleen writes: << He has an LP called Zodiac Cosmic Sounds by Mort Garson on Electra SKS74009. Each track is related to a Zodiac sign, ie: Aries, Libra and is sort of spoken with psychedelic music in the backround. It is pretty cool. His question: Does anyone know aboout this record or the guy who made it? >> The lyrics were written and spoken by Jacques Wilson whom I know very little about. The music is by Mort Garson who has produced several other incredibly strange classics including "The Wozard of Iz" an electronic, 60's hippie-oriented spoof on the Wizard of Oz. "Black Mass" (by Lucifer) is a great spooky electronic work. Its almost-as-good cousin is "The Unexplained", credited to Ataraxia, but it's all Garson. Garson and Wilson did a series of 12 records, one devoted to each Zodiac sign, but these are not nearly as good as Zodiac Cosmic Sounds. The instrumentation is all electronic (no sitars, guitars, or percussion) and the music is very much in the background. Garson's "Music for Sensuous Lovers by Z" is a recording of a woman moaning orgasmically to Moogy background music. It's o.k. but not great. He has another one called "Plantasia" (electronic music to help your plants grow). I have heard mixed reviews of that one, too. He made a few other LPs which aren't worth mentioning. If I missed any good ones, I'm sure someone else on the list will let us know. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Zodiac Cosmic Sounds Date: 03 Mar 2001 15:27:01 -0500 > >Zodiac Cosmic Sounds by Mort > > Garson on Electra SKS74009. > >Which is my point exactly regarding ebay. If you want it, there it is. >Sure it may cost you thirty bucks, but at least you now have the >*opportunity* to get it. Unless the vinyl gods are with you, that is not >the kind of record you'll find in the dollar bins. I did! ^_- But now that dealer's gone. --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) Zodiac Cosmic Sounds Date: 03 Mar 2001 12:39:24 -0800 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of basic hip > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 12:15 PM > Keep an eye out for these: > > The Wozard of Iz (mind altering substances recommended) Since someone mentioned usenet earlier: The Wozard of Iz was posted maybe a few days ago in alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1970s. Later, Ben np: keiji haino, "tenshi no gijinka" http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara ICQ: 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Kenyon Hopkins query Date: 03 Mar 2001 15:41:59 EST In a message dated 3/3/01 2:59:35 PM US Eastern Standard Time, magnus writes: << Any Kenyon Hopkins collector on the list? How is his "Rooms" LP? I saw the cover and it looked brilliant >> It's music for a ballet. The music is a little more dissonant and difficult than most of Hopkins' soundtracks. There are occasional elements of the crime jazz, noir sound that Hopkins is famous for, but it is a slightly different side of Hopkins. I don't treasure it above The Hustler, Baby Doll, or The Yellow Canary soundtracks, but if you're a Hopkins fanatic, you should have a copy. It's quite rare. It might be a while before you see another copy. I suspect that you, being a huge Phil Moore fan, would probably dig it. It has elements of jazz and classical music like some of Moore's work. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) Re: Collectors. Date: 03 Mar 2001 13:01:03 -0800 At 12:24 PM 03-03-01 -0600, Colleen wrote: >Are you purchasing that LP for the cover or for the music inside? Some records I have bought because the covers were great, but these were thrifted. Some I have bought because I liked the artist but had great covers (Raymond Scott "This Time With Strings" for example). Some I have bought because I was interested in the artist and then the cover turns out to be far better than the music (Ortolani's "Women of the World" for example.) Often a good cover does its job, it appeals to my senses enough and I pick it up and half the time buy it. But many times I wont buy it just because the cover is cool if I know that it's going to be boring because I know the group or composer. I actually used to do that a lot but my vinyl graveyard just kept growing too big and it just wasn't worth spending the money. Recently I picked up Ornette Coleman's "This Is Our Music" because I had never seen it before and loved the cover so much. I knew I was going to put it in a record frame. However I love Coleman anyway, so it was one of those win/win deals. There are some older jazz records with covers I find such amazing examples of graphic design that I really want to hunt them down for the art, but I highly doubt it will result in music I won't want to listen to or play for others. This leads me to wonder what some people's favorite covers and/or record packing is in their collections. Unlucky --- Mr. Unlucky presents Shoot To Kill, a weekly set of jazz, soundtrack music, Now Sound, and the occasional foray into international territory on Supersphere.com, Thursdays 1-2 p.m. (CST). Many past sets are archived for future listening pleasure. http://www.supersphere.com Get 250 color business cards for FREE! at Lycos Mail http://mail.lycos.com/freemail/vistaprint_index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour Date: 03 Mar 2001 15:04:44 -0600 While you're surfing through the (virtual) record racks at ebay, tune in this week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast. You'll find Latin spice by Esquivel, Mongo Santamaria, Chaquito and Bob Florence; crime jazz from "Burke's Law" and "77 Sunset Strip"; Louis Prima's rockin' organist Little Richie Varola; tunes by Googie Rene, Mel Henke and Vinnie Bell; plus relatively new stuff from Astroslut, Project Pimento and Arling and Cameron. To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour on the web, just visit: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Requires RealPlayer and a minimum 28.8 Internet connection. When you visit, enter our weekly giveaway and tour the album cover gallery! As always, comments and requests are welcome. Ringraziarlo per lo spazio! Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Collectors. Date: 03 Mar 2001 22:21:56 +0100 (CET) citerar "F. Cobalt" : > This leads me to wonder what some people's favorite covers and/or record > packing is in their collections. Danny Guglielmis and Dena's "Adventures in sound", "Dinner music for a pack of hungry cannibals" by Dave Harris, "Space Escapade" by Les Baxter, "Countdown" by Jimmie Haskell. The Frankie Stein covers and much much more... Different styles but I love em all. It is amazing, when I first started seeing these covers on the net -95 I was amazed. Then when I started hearing them I was even more amazed. I still are, I cant believe this is real, NOTHING CAN BE THIS COOL! Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Barbarella 2001 Date: 03 Mar 2001 16:46:19 EST Lou must be on a day off, so here goes...... Cambridge, MA - If Jane Fonda could remake one of her films, she says she would produce a feminist "Barbarella", tweaking the 1968 science-fiction cult classic that opens with her performing a strip-tease. Describing the movie as "toxic to my heart", the result of low self-esteem, and an ingrained belief that she should please the men in her life, Fonda joined with the Harvard Graduate School of Education yesterday to call for new research and curriculums to help girls and boys avoid thinking that they should act a certain way because of their gender. The School of Education announced that Fonda has made the largest individual donation in its history, $12.5 million, to support her cause by creating a center on gender and education........Boston Globe, Saturday, March 3, 2001 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" Subject: RE: (exotica) Barbarella 2001 Date: 03 Mar 2001 23:03:44 +0100 > Fonda has made the largest individual donation in its history, > $12.5 million, > to support her cause by creating a center on gender and > education........ Damn, for that money she could have bought all members of this list a copy of the Barbarella soundtrack. Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: (exotica) Barbarella 2001 Date: 03 Mar 2001 17:31:03 EST In a message dated 3/3/1 5:04:36 PM, weirdomusic@wxs.nl wrote: >> Fonda has made the largest individual donation in its history, > >> $12.5 million, > >> to support her cause by creating a center on gender and > >> education........ > > > >Damn, for that money she could have bought all members of this list a copy > >of the Barbarella soundtrack. It just goes to show that she has yet to make peace with a 33 year old past....interesting, eh? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: (exotica) speaking of Zodiac Date: 03 Mar 2001 14:57:29 -0800 Colleen had asked about the Zodiac Cosmic Sounds. I'm sure alot of you know about another cool one about the signs of the Zodiac, but for those that don't and like that sort of thing, keep an eye peeled for: Soul Zodiac The Nat Adderley Sextet, written and narrated by Rick Holmes 1972 Capitol Records SVBB 11025 A gatefold, double LP featuring the very deep and soulful exhortations of Rick Holmes, a Los Angeles radio personality. he had a nightly show on KBCA-FM - a station big on jazz and artful eloquence - called "Rick's Family Affair". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Kapp Records Date: 03 Mar 2001 17:55:19 -0500 Kapp also had their "4 Corners Of The World" imprint. Referencing an inner sleeve, there were albums from... Francoise Hardy The Barclay Singers Boulou Lolita Gunter Kallmann England's Famous Band Of The Lifeguards Jorge Renan & His Guitar Combo Digno Garcia Teddy Mertens Bert Dahlander The Miracle Of Lourdes: A Live Recording Of A Pilgrimage To Lourdes Jose Guardiola Los Mayas Coronados Keith & Ken with The Jamaican Steel Band Kyriakos and His Orchestra Sergio Franchi Claudio Villa The Little Singers Of Milano Milva And didn't Kapp have some garage/psych bands on the roster? Yes? No? m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, March 4 Date: 03 Mar 2001 18:03:42 -0500 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #132 Italian Lounge Beat Party This week, we're playing some groovy tunes from Italy - mainly from the 60s and 70s. Roberto Fogu: Una Vergine Da Rubare "Ninfadelica" Nico Fidenco: Super Colpo da 7 Miliardi (Strade di Londra) "Italian Lounge Beat Party" Lee Selmoco Orchestra: Blue Media "Easy Tempo" Armando Trovajoli: Beat Trombone "(Italian Girls Like) Ear-Catching Melodies" Sandro Brugnolini & Luigi Malatesta: Bakenda Beat "Beat Vol. 1 - Lounge At Cinevox" Riz Ortolani: The Roaring Twenties "(Italian Girls Like) Ear-Catching Melodies" Giorgio Carnini: Piccolo Ma Beat "Ninfadelica" Romano Mussolini: Blues For Alexandra "Easy Tempo" Bruno Nicolai: Eugenie "Ninfadelica" Lee Selmoco: Itinerario B "Mosaico Psichedelico" Armando Trovajoli: Sessomatto "Easy Tempo" Piero Piccioni: The Chase "The 10th Victim" Piero Umiliani: Samba Mah Na "Svezia Inferno e Paradiso" Puccio Roelens: Due Per Due "Beat Psichedelico Alla Celluloide" Ennio Morricone: 4 Mosche Di Velluto Grigio "Beat Vol. 2 - Lounge At Cinevox" A. Sciascia & C. Anselmo: Fast Finger Fun "Beat Psichedelico Alla Celluloide" Piero Piccioni: Ti Ho Sposato Per Allegria (Shake - New Edit) "Italian Lounge Beat Party" Thanks for reading, and thanks for listening. cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Ira Ironstrings Date: 03 Mar 2001 15:13:56 -0800 Most of us know that Louis F. Busch has one pseudonym: Joe "Fingers" Carr. Now I wonder whether he had two. Ira Ironstrings did a number of Warner Brothers LPs produced by Busch and arranged by Busch. The question is...who was Ira Ironstrings? On the cover of, I think, the first Ira Ironstrings Warner Brothers LP, there is a picture of a guy who looks like Joe "Fingers" Carr (and, of course, Lou Busch) carrying a banjo and wearing a Roman toga in front of a store front (the implication was that he was Nero about to watch the business go up in flames). Now, the real story might be revealed in this album: Joe "Fingers" Carr and Ira Ironstrings Together for the First Time, Warner Brothers WBS-1389 This one appears to be the last of four WB Ira Ironstrings albums. Anyone have an answer here? Right now I believe Lou=Joe=Ira. Byron ___...--''''***^^^^^^""""""^^^^^***''''---___ "You've got to stand for something or ||| you'll fall for anything." ||| ||| ---John Mellencamp ||| ||| ||| |||bag AT hubris DOT net Portland, OR, USA||| """^^^'''***----...__________...----'''^^^""" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Stanley Wilson "Pagan Love" Date: 04 Mar 2001 00:19:44 +0100 Magnus Sandberg schrieb: > Sometimes I wonder what will happen to my records when I pass away, the > funniest thing were to see them go back to a fleamarket,... I'm sure Stefan Kery will get all of them before that happens! Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Ebay, Record Dealers and Collectors Date: 03 Mar 2001 17:49:28 -0600 At 2:38 PM 3/3/01, Dj45rpm@aol.com wrote: >Another thing I've noticed more and more when I'm going on a garage sale ru= n >and asking if they have any records for sale are people either saying they'= re >holding on to their albums to sell on eBay or offering really scratchy and >not-so-rare records at ridiculous prices because they heard they were >"valuable". .... Has anyone else noticed this particular trend? More in antique stores than anyplace else. It's hard to tell if the rising prices are due to eBay or general inflation. I'm kind of surprised you're finding this trend at garage sales, David. I'd think the time and hassle factors of eBay dealing would discourage the amateurs. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Collectors. Date: 03 Mar 2001 19:00:18 -0500 > I saw a Command record I may never see again: Dick Van Dyke singing! for > $15. I think they then paid Dick Van Dyke $20 to shut him up afterwards. Oddly enough, just 30 minutes ago I finished watching a video of the old Dick Van Dyke /Ann Margaret musical 'Bye Bye Birdie', circa 1961. Pretty sappy movie .... however one of the best scenes is when Rosie (Dick's girlfriend) decides to have a hot night on the town at the wildest club in town .... and discovers a full scale Shriner meeting happening in the basement, with everyone wearing a fez. The scene ends with all the Shriners chasing Rosie around the room. The music for this scene has a bit of an exotic middle east flavor, but for the most part is dominated by the Pop/Tin pan alley sound. My question. Are there any other movies from that era that feature such scenes of partying Shriners? Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Kenyon Hopkins query Date: 03 Mar 2001 19:13:50 -0500 At 01:50 PM 3/3/01 +0100, Magnus Sandberg wrote: > > >Any Kenyon Hopkins collector on the list? I try to be. How is his "Rooms" LP? I saw >the cover and it looked brilliant It looked brilliant from the cover? Unfortunately I can understand that. But I never heard of it. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Ebay, Record Dealers and Collectors Date: 03 Mar 2001 19:54:07 -0500 At 02:38 PM 3/3/01 EST, Dj45rpm@aol.com wrote: > >Another thing I've noticed more and more when I'm going on a garage sale run >and asking if they have any records for sale are people either saying they're >holding on to their albums to sell on eBay or offering really scratchy and >not-so-rare records at ridiculous prices because they heard they were >"valuable". When I was getting rid of records last Fall, I would look at ebay and try to decide what would sell there and what wouldn't. If nobody was bidding on a record or if a lot of people had it up for auction, I sold it for a buck or so at a used record store rather than hold onto it for my eventual ebay auctions. I guess I could have held onto all of them but I can't tell you how liberating it was to get a thousand records out of here, records I never played, records I only kept because they supposedly "fit into my collection". It was my experience that the vast majority of pretty good lounge/exotica records were getting no bids whatsoever. From a buyer's point of view, the problem with ebay is the starting bid price. You almost never see a record start at less than five dollars. So the cheapest record I can buy will cost me almost 25 Canadian Dollars. Before ebay that was about the most I'd pay for any record. If you go to ebay for the odd "collector's record" that you've never seen anywhere else or it's been on your want list forever, then that kind of makes sense. If you end up paying fifty bucks for something you've always wanted, that can be rationalized. You can't really put a price on something you've always wanted. But when it comes to your average vaguely interesting record, ebay is bad news for buyers. And not that good for sellers either. Most of them don't sell. There's no question there are less records out there in the world because of ebay hording. I can't believe the crap people put on ebay with a minimum bid of five or ten or even fifteen dollars. That's the problem. Not the Free Design records but the Roger Williams records. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Collectors. Date: 03 Mar 2001 19:56:01 -0500 At 02:51 PM 3/3/01 -0500, Domenic Ciccone wrote: > >I saw a Command record I may never see again: Dick Van Dyke singing! for >$15. That's neither an uncommon record nor a very good one. If you really want that, you will find it for less than 15. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr Chris R. Tame" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ultra Lounge Date: 04 Mar 2001 00:50:32 +0000 In article , Colleen Pyles writes > >I wanted to add to Vern's listing of his favorite "Ultra Lounge" >comps. with my favorites: >I also like Mondo Exotica -Vol 1 > Saxophobia Vol 12 track 14 Ebb Tide is good > > Crime Scene Vol 7 it's just sexy > Rhapsodesia forget what vol # didn't think I'd like it > but I loved it! >On the other hand, I did not like "A Bachelor in Paris" at all. > > >I found a really neat comp called "Music for a Bachelor's Den" which >has Linda Lawson's version "Like Young". (I just love that tune). > >Thought I'd share, >Colleen > > > > Colleen I've now bought these and I agree, they're all excellent. -- Dr. Chris R. Tame, Director Libertarian Alliance | "The secret of Happiness is Freedom, | 25 Chapter Chambers | and the secret of Freedom is Courage" | Esterbrooke Street | Thucydides, Pericles' Funeral Oration | London SW1P 4NN England Tel: 020 7821 5502 Fax: 020 7834 2031 Email: chris@rand.demon.co.uk LA Web Site: http://www.libertarian-alliance.com/ Free Life Web Site: http://www.whig.org.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Collectors. Date: 03 Mar 2001 20:40:02 -0500 At 12:24 PM 3/3/01 -0600, Colleen Pyles wrote: > >Okay, here's my question for You vinyl collectors out there. >Are you purchasing that LP for the cover or for the music inside? >And if it is out on CD, do you still want the LP? Or do you want >that LP because it is rare and to get it would be a "coup", whether >or not you care for the music? I'm just curious. Colleen/sounding a >little like Alan... I have no clever comeback for that last comment. Before answering questions like this, I always like to point out the difference between a collector and an accumulator. Buying a record for the cover is something an accumulator might do. A collector might also do it but only if the collector is also an accumulator. Myself I am no longer an accumulator and I was never a collector. When I went through a bin of records, I would stop everytime I saw something that looked cool. Anything that was unfamiliar. Anything with certain kinds of imagery. A naked woman trying to cover herself with slabs of black vinyl. I could give a million examples but I'm sure everyone here knows what I'm talking about. If I liked the cover but I was pretty sure I wouldn't like the music, I would pay up to a dollar for it. If I really loved the cover but I was sure I wouldn't like the music, I might pay five dollars. But that hardly ever happened. If I liked the cover and I thought there was a chance I'd like the music, I'd pay up to five dollars for it. But that also hardly ever happened. Most of the times I bought a record just for the cover, I was at a thrift store and it was fifty cents or less. And usually, even if I bought a record mostly for the cover, I had some hope I'd actually like the record inside. When it comes to the thousands of records I bought when I was on my lounge, exotica, easy listening journey, you can't really separate the cover from the music. My pursuit of those records was based on the whole thing they represented for me. And the cover was inextricably part of it. And that's why I almost never bought the CD reissues. The music divorced from the original packaging seemed strange and out-of-place to me. Disembodied. As you know, I've now gotten rid of 90% of my lounge/exotica records and when I listen to that music, I listen on CDR's that I made myself from my ex-accumulation. You could say that it's disembodied. But I learned a long time ago that it's harder for me to like a record if I don't own it. The fact that I once owned these records obviously makes my CD's easier to listen to than the CD's containing music I've never owned on LP. What else did you ask? Do I want records simply because they're rare even if I don't like them myself? The short answer is yes, though I would substitute "cool" for rare. Yes I have that in me. But I'm always trying to get it out of me. And I'm always trying to get rid of the records I keep only because I think someday someone will come to my house and be impressed that I have that record. The fact that it's been years since someone actually went through my records is one of the things that makes it easier to get rid of that "weakness". But it will probably always be a factor. I told a story here, a year or so ago, about my relationship to Fela records. It's the same issue. I have ten records framed on the wall and about fifty on a shelf just because. Of the ten framed records, two are by Don Lonie, two are on Audio Fidelity and feature that fat moustachioed guy that ended up on a lot of their covers (he sort of looks like Sergeant Garcia from the old Zorro series) My favorite record cover is a tie between one by Richard Hayman which I call the "date rape" cover and an obscure on by the "comedian" Hap Happy. pheewww.... AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Kapp Records Date: 03 Mar 2001 20:40:21 EST In a message dated 3/3/1 5:55:44 PM, mace@ookworld.com wrote: >Kapp also had their "4 Corners Of The World" imprint. Referencing an inner >sleeve, there were albums from... in addition to mace's references .. also on Four Corners was .. "Roses Are Red My Love, Baby Violets Are Blue" by the You Know Who Group .. Ultra-Garage Rock...JB/one of the few rawk 45's saved in the kullekshun..ALSO ON KAPP--The Searchers first LP # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Collectors. Date: 03 Mar 2001 20:43:37 EST In a message dated 3/3/1 7:07:12 PM, itsvern@attglobal.net wrote: >Are there any other movies from that era that feature such scenes >of partying Shriners? OK Vern, time to tap into the "Partying Shriners" genre....anyone? anyone???? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) Mort garson Date: 03 Mar 2001 20:48:17 -0500 At 12:14 PM 3/3/01 -0600, Colleen Pyles wrote: > > His question: Does anyone know aboout >this record or the guy who made it? It's true that Mort made an unusual number of crazy moogy records like the Zodiac ones and the Wozard of Id one. But like all these guys, he was also involved in a ton of more "normal" records. When I come across some generic-looking Now Sound record, if I find a name like Mort's on the back - or George Cates or Jack Pleis etc - it gives me a little hope. It will probably be okay and maybe it will be more than okay. One such Mort Garson record is "Symphony of Soul" by "Total Eclipse" (though it could be reversed) which is a pretty good heavily orchestrated Now Sound thing. I know I had a bunch of others but they're gone now. Doesn't spaceagepop have a Mort Garson page? AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Ebay, Record Dealers and Collectors Date: 03 Mar 2001 20:49:10 EST In a message dated 3/3/1 7:52:55 PM, azed@pathcom.com wrote: >From a buyer's point of view, the problem with ebay is the starting bid >price. You almost never see a record start at less than five dollars. Why would anyone in their right mind bother to deal with the headache that IS Ebay for UNDER fi'dolla (no holla')...Its simply not worth the aggravation (to me, anyway)...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Ultra Lounge Date: 03 Mar 2001 21:51:25 EST Linda Lawson also has a cut on the Sex Kittens in Hi-Fi series (Brunettes, I think) "Where the Flamingos Fly" and I also nabbed one off something called Betty Boop Musical Cabaret, which has her doing "Up Pops Love." Her sole album is very collectable and hard to find and hasn't been issued on CD. She was a regular on the 50s exotic TV series Adventures in Paradise. > I found a really neat comp called "Music for a Bachelor's Den" which >has Linda Lawson's version "Like Young". (I just love that tune). > >Thought I'd share, >Colleen > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: (exotica) LP to CD (Martin Denny, Polynesian Percussion) Date: 03 Mar 2001 19:54:39 -0800 Howdy folks. The nice folks at Mai Tai Records (uh, that would be me) have finally taken the plunge into LP to CD mastering. The conversion software (CD Spin Doctor) actually works and sounds pretty good. These are the LPs I converted Martin Denny - Exotic Percussion Martin Denny - Latin Village (these two on a "two-fer" CD) Si Zetner and Martin Denny - Exotica Suite (written by Les Baxter) George Cates - Polynesian Percussion (Hawaiian Exotica) Mark Renwick, Tiki Bob, and Paul Wages: in return for all your past generosity I'll be sending you these unless you would prefer I don't (sorry, Mark, it was these Denny LPs I had, not Exotic Love). If anyone else would like a copy, just let me know. I am eager to accept trades but that is not essential. Aloha, Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Ultra Lounge Date: 03 Mar 2001 22:55:44 EST In a message dated 3/3/1 9:52:10 PM, Dlsmay@aol.com wrote: >Linda Lawson also has a cut on the Sex Kittens in Hi-Fi series . She >was a regular on the 50s exotic TV series Adventures in Paradise. Are DVD's or videos of this available? I have mega-dim mammaries of this show as an infant swathed in B&W TV-pioneering...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: (exotica) CD-Rs - Labels vs. Booklets Date: 03 Mar 2001 19:57:44 -0800 Almost every one of the CD-Rs I've received over the years from other poeple has come without a label on the CD. Many have, however, come with excellent booklets. I was under the impression that a label on the CD is a good thing for the CD-R, since the top surface is delicate. Do I have this wrong? Also, curious what others think about labels vs. booklets. I'd rather have a nice looking CD but maybe I am in the minority (and, of course, the most important thing is the content so either way a CD-R of cool tunes is always a great thing). -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) Collectors. Date: 03 Mar 2001 20:01:18 -0800 Colleen Pyles wrote: > > Okay, here's my question for You vinyl collectors out there. > Are you purchasing that LP for the cover or for the music inside? > And if it is out on CD, do you still want the LP? Or do you want > that LP because it is rare and to get it would be a "coup", whether > or not you care for the music? I'm just curious. Colleen/sounding a > little like Alan... As a child of the 80s I never buy LPs if I already have the CD. Some of the cover art on LPs is nice, but rarely worth buying just for that (esp. in Exotica genre, as opposed to some of the rock albums of the 70's). -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (exotica) April fools gentlemen Date: 03 Mar 2001 23:33:34 -0500 Rob wrote: > And will people lay off the new guy? i wouldn't mind if you were molotov > cocktail toting, credit card hacking, anti-capitalist revolutionaries. But > short of that you're just not in a fucking reasonable position. OK, I give up! But let me leave this discusssion with one last serious thought. For me this had nothing whatsoever to do with business or money, this had to do with a certain "term" coming to mind after I read that post as I wondered to myself "what kind of person would say that?". As for telling Ebay users to take note, if I were one of those that had bid on that record and then read the post that followed, in this context, I know I'd be feeling mighty offended, and I don't offend easily! I think that regardless of its intent, the way it was worded and the context it was placed in was simply unfortunate. Let's leave it at that and hope there won't be a next time. Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) Napster dreams Date: 04 Mar 2001 00:28:36 -0500 Do I have this right? Napster is about to remove millions of songs by million-selling artists and other music that I would never have downloaded anyway. When they're finished removing all those cuts, it will become a trading post for people like myself who are mostly interested in hearing music by dead people who seldom have lawyers. Is this true? Or will Napster simply disappear? AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Ultra Lounge Date: 04 Mar 2001 06:47:30 +0100 (CET) citerar DJJimmyBee@aol.com: > > > In a message dated 3/3/1 9:52:10 PM, Dlsmay@aol.com wrote: > > >Linda Lawson also has a cut on the Sex Kittens in Hi-Fi series . She > >was a regular on the 50s exotic TV series Adventures in Paradise. > > Are DVD's or videos of this available? I have mega-dim mammaries of this > show > as an infant swathed in B&W TV-pioneering...JB > Sure! all episodes are out on dvd, and dont forget to pick up the "history of outer space exotica" vol 1-4. Extremely great collection of rare videoclips from Les Baxter, Russ Garcia, Frank Comstock etc. Also on dvd. Bought my copies in dreamsville, only 50 cent's each! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clayton black Subject: Re: (exotica) Collectors. Date: 04 Mar 2001 12:45:31 -0500 > Okay, here's my question for You vinyl collectors out there. > Are you purchasing that LP for the cover or for the music inside? > And if it is out on CD, do you still want the LP? Or do you want > that LP because it is rare and to get it would be a "coup", whether > or not you care for the music? For me, it's the vinyl. I will, on rare occasions, buy an album with no cover (like when I got Jimmy Smith doing his version of Mission Impossible), but I always turn away a cover with no record. I bought Henri Rene's Music for Bachelors, knowing that the music was, to say the least, bland, but that was rare. I love the covers, and as Alan put it, the two are really part of one package. But when you get down to it, it's the music. I admire Alan's ability to part with his records--I think I need a few more years (I also don't just want to give them to a thrift store where I may make the mistake of buying them back again!). Lord knows I could use the room. But as for CDs vs. vinyl, I will always choose the latter. My reasons are not rational. They're dictated more by habit and emotion. I think I've always loved everything about vinyl records, and CDs just seem boring to me. They always have. I have plenty of them, but sometimes I forget that I do. Now that I think about it, I wish the CD slot in my computer would accommodate an LP instead. Favorite covers? I'm sure it's not on anyone's list, but I never could get over the used-car-salesman look of Jerry Murad on the cover of Cherry Pink & Apple Blossom White. The women in chains on the cover of Enoch Light & the Brass Menagerie are pretty outrageous (I had a hard time explaining that one to my 6-yr.-old daughter) but that doesn't constitute a "favorite." I guess I'd have to go with "Inside Sauter-Finegan." I might even buy that one with no vinyl. Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) CD-Rs - Labels vs. Booklets Date: 04 Mar 2001 00:51:15 EST In a message dated 3/3/1 10:57:06 PM, kevin@kevdo.com wrote: >labels vs. booklets. I'd rather >have a nice looking CD but maybe I am in the minority (and, of course, >the most important thing is the content so either way a CD-R of cool >tunes is always a great thing). Given a choice, id rather have the vinyl in its original form...its "purest expression" if you will...Barring my inability to obtain said vinyl..i really don't care as long as its not on cassette..i like CD's technically, but doubt I'll ever compare them to the vinyl product as it was originally released...Of course if its a recently released compilation of old OR new material, i only care about the material, not whether its on vinyl....IN other words, the original source if on vinyl, is my preference, but any mixup in the original source delegates it to CD status in which my preferences drop precipitously..Got that Larryboy?...LOL/JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Linda Lawson Date: 03 Mar 2001 23:57:18 -0600 > Linda Lawson also has a cut on the Sex Kittens in Hi-Fi series > Her sole album is very collectable and hard to find and hasn't been issued > on CD. Actually, it has. The Spanish label Fresh Sounds brought it out on CD a few years ago. I thought it had gone out of print, but Footlight Records still shows it in their online catalog. Check it out at: http://www.footlight.com/shop.html Thanks for the space. Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retrolisten.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Linda Lawson Date: 04 Mar 2001 01:12:11 EST In a message dated 3/4/1 12:58:36 AM, dbrogdon@falcon.cc.ukans.edu wrote: >Thanks for the space. All due respect for a true exoticat, and few put more into it musically,...But is it really necessary to be thanked for space that doesn't have to be requested to begin with?? JB/big on omitting b.s. these daze with NO offense meant to NPR!~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Kenyon Hopkins query Date: 04 Mar 2001 11:28:23 +0100 (CET) citerar alan zweig : > How is his "Rooms" LP? I saw > >the cover and it looked brilliant > > It looked brilliant from the cover? The producers might go, Here is a strange recording, call "X". He/she is strange too, he/she can make the cover to it. Just an idea... Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Zodiac Cosmic Sounds Date: 04 Mar 2001 07:23:46 EST In a message dated 3/3/01 10:57:55 PM US Eastern Standard Time, basichip@home.com writes: << I'm sure alot of you know about another cool one about the signs of the Zodiac, but for those that don't and like that sort of thing, keep an eye peeled for: Soul Zodiac The Nat Adderley Sextet, written and narrated by Rick Holmes 1972 Capitol Records SVBB 11025 >> These same guys made a second Zodiac record called Love, Sex, and The Zodiac. I Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Ebay, Record Dealers and Collectors Date: 04 Mar 2001 13:22:32 +0100 alan zweig schrieb: > > I guess I could have held onto all of them but I can't tell you how > liberating it was to get a thousand records out of here BTW: did you sell these records singulary record by record? 1000s of them? I find it rather exhausting to do that on ebay - fill in this form for each record again and again. there should be a list form or something, with the possibility to bring a couple of similar objects to auction, yet posting these auctions singulary in the end. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) CD-Rs - Labels vs. Booklets Date: 04 Mar 2001 13:28:40 +0100 Kevin Crossman schrieb: > Almost every one of the CD-Rs I've received over the years from other > poeple has come without a label on the CD. Many have, however, come with > excellent booklets. > > I was under the impression that a label on the CD is a good thing for > the CD-R, since the top surface is delicate. Do I have this wrong? > > Also, curious what others think about labels vs. booklets. I'd rather > have a nice looking CD but maybe I am in the minority (and, of course, > the most important thing is the content so either way a CD-R of cool > tunes is always a great thing). I like labels too. the problem is that often it's impossible to make a decent copy, especially when parts of the label ur unprinted or printed in "unprintable colors" like silver, white etc. another problem is that the lables have to be adjusted very exactly, otherwise you get problems with spinning the CDs. I haven't heard that a label is a protection for the CD and I cannot imagine why this should be the case. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Re: Ultra Lounge Date: 04 Mar 2001 13:35:21 +0100 Magnus Sandberg schrieb: > Sure! all episodes are out on dvd, and dont forget to pick up > the "history of outer space exotica" vol 1-4. Extremely great > collection of rare videoclips from Les Baxter, Russ Garcia, Frank > Comstock etc. Also on dvd. > > Bought my copies in dreamsville, only 50 cent's each! > what??!?!! could you explain this a little better. and while you're in "dreamsville" again, could you pick up copies of the above mentioned for me too?!!! thank you Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) CD vs. Vinyl, Vol. 7 (aprox.) Date: 04 Mar 2001 13:58:38 +0100 Aah, the good ol' vinyl vs. CD discussion again! Didn't pop up for a while... One day someone should go through the archives and write a book on this subject. And how over the years the opinions have been slightly changing. Did I recognize a new tone in the last posts? In former discussions the question of sound was the main issue, now the users seem to getting used to the sound of the CD (or do they agree nowadays, that there isn't that much of a difference as they thought before?) and seem to enjoy the advantages in handling of the CD. Now the question of originality is seen in a more mysterious light: "Purest expression", what might that be? Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" Subject: RE: (exotica) Napster dreams Date: 04 Mar 2001 14:06:38 +0100 Alan wrote: > Is this true? > Or will Napster simply disappear? It's owned by Bertelsmann now, isn't it? That means it won't disappear - soon it will just cost us a lot of money to download the latest Britney Spears track. Does anyone know what's going on with the other download sites, likes Scour and Gnutella. Are they still around? Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) CD-Rs - Labels vs. Booklets Date: 04 Mar 2001 08:20:05 EST In a message dated 3/3/01 7:57:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, kevin@kevdo.com writes: << Also, curious what others think about labels vs. booklets. I'd rather have a nice looking CD but maybe I am in the minority (and, of course, the most important thing is the content so either way a CD-R of cool tunes is always a great thing). >> i agree with kevin. and his cd's are the best i have seen. both booklets AND cd labels. i have not gotten into the cd label making yet (because of time limitations) but i usually do a little booklet with art work, notes, etc. when i get non labeled cd from people i at least write on them what it is and make a little tray liner notes and spine titles. i keep all my cd's in standard jewel cases (for uniformity). i know some people rag on the Ultra Lounge series but the liner notes and pictures are spectacular. they actually one the grammy in the CD design catagory once. i know the music is "the" thing to most, but i like the whole package. and sorry i have not posted much lately. i have been way busy with a couple of big projects at home and work. welcome to all the new members who has signed up since December (when my postings started to drop off). balmy regards, tiki bob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Ebay Date: 04 Mar 2001 08:25:46 EST In a message dated 3/3/01 11:30:16 AM Pacific Standard Time, basichip@home.com writes: << Byron oh so correctly pointed out: > Many of these items I would never have found in any other way! < This is the key to it for me - a factor so important that it just cannot be overlooked. >> BINGO, BINGO, BINGO. I don't know what I did before Ebay. tb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Wages Subject: Re: (exotica) Ultra Lounge Date: 04 Mar 2001 09:28:28 -0500 > Are DVD's or videos of this available? I have mega-dim mammaries of this show > as an infant swathed in B&W TV-pioneering...JB If I recall correctly, Eddie Brandt's Saturday Matinee (a rental-by-mail place out of Hollywood) has VHS copies of both Adventures In Paradise and Hawaiian Eye. My memory is based on the 1997 catalog. No time to find the address right now, but I'm sure a web search will turn up something. Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Fwd: Re: (exotica) Kapp Records Date: 04 Mar 2001 11:16:07 -0500 Forwarded on behalf of litlgrey: >Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 18:24:56 -0500 >From: >Subject: Re: (exotica) Kapp Records > >Kapp produced the first two Silver Apples classic records in 1968 and 1969, >and would have produced the third as well had Kapp not encountered serious >money troubles and had the band not been pursued with a vengeance by Pan >American Airways for their "misuse" of Pan Am materials on the second LP. >My roommate has copies of the Kapp LPs which he kept all through the years, >and the original Silver Apples Simeon and Danny Taylor signed them for him >shortly after they were reunited by a loving WFMU DJ in 1999. Raw tapes of >the still unfinished album were unearthed by Danny Taylor in his attic - >having been remarkably ignored by parasites and by time itself - and are now >availble under its original name "The Garden" from Simeon's label Whirlybird. > >-- >Peace Out >Choppa Choppa >Bang Bang >Hackü Maimü >Where's da WUV™? > >Sun Ra on your PC... The CyberSpace Ministry >http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=litlgrey >or go to http://live365.com >Search keyword: Sun Ra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) CD-Rs - Labels vs. Booklets Date: 04 Mar 2001 08:50:15 -0800 Moritz R wrote: > I haven't heard that a label is a protection for the CD and I cannot imagine why this should be the case. Well, they do sell special pens that can write on CD-R surfaces w/out scratching the disk. Of course, maybe you're right and that is just a sales ploy. :-) -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) 3 from the Scout Report Date: 04 Mar 2001 12:12:48 -0500 > From: Lou Smith > Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 23:48:59 -0500 > To: exotica@xmission.com > Subject: (exotica) 3 from the Scout Report > > 13. The Merchants of Cool -- PBS [RealPlayer] > http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/cool/ > > The companion site to this week's excellent _Frontline_ explores the > symbiotic relationships between teens, the media, and the creators > and sellers of popular culture. In the program, _Frontline_ > correspondent Douglas Rushkoff interviews marketers, media > executives, cultural/media critics, and members of the teen market > that the former are so desperately trying to reach (and create). > Among other things, Rushkoff explores the "mook" (young male) and > "midriff" (young female) stereotypes and the marketing of supposedly > anti-establishment rage rockers. At the site, visitors can explore > the major themes of the film, read interview transcripts and the > reactions of teens who viewed the program, and learn about some of > the companies and media giants featured in the film. Also included > are a discussion list, a teacher's guide, and some additional short > features. [MD] Thanks to Lou for info on this site. Frontline's one of the best things on TV, and the website is excellent. The local PBS is erratic in its showing of Frontline, however, so I hope I get the chance to see it eventually. On an unrelated matter, despite my recent (and self-contradictory) disavowal of digital format music, for those of you who like Arabic music, http://www.mazika.com/ has tons of good mp3s from Egypt, Lebanon, and the Gulf. Ehab Tawfik, Ragheb Alam, and Hani Shaker are personal favorites. The download time is pretty quick as well. I don't have Napster and have almost no experience ftp-ing files, so I've missed most of the controversy on that, but if you're something of a novice, like me, and dig just about anything from the Middle East, this is the place for you. Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: (exotica) Tomorrow's "Back-Ward" Playlist, March 5 Date: 04 Mar 2001 18:24:46 -0000

The Back-Ward can be heard Monday afternoons from 2:00 pm to 3:00 pm EST on CFRU 93.3fm in Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Comments & questions welcome.

The show is also available in RealAudio. Click on "Listen to us live via the net" at:
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~cfru-fm/

 

tomorrow's show:

Jaguar - John Gregory

A Bird In The Hand - Artie Butler, "Harrad Experiment" OST

Back Stabbers - Rogen-Denjean & Co.

Marathon Suite - Francis Lai, "The Games" OST

Unkown Worlds Montage - "Unknown Worlds", Holt's Impact lp

Circle - Bruno Nicolai, 'De Sade 70" OST

Zero Gravity - Nik Pascal

Men Are Different - "Unknown Worlds", Holt's Impact lp

The Cat - Ruth White, "Flowers Of Evil" lp

Girl's Game - Eskimos of Hudson's Bay, Folkways lp

These Are Troubled Times - New Creation, "Troubled" lp

My Pal Foot Foot - The Shaggs

The Spook - Pete Drake, "Forever" lp

Earth - Ze Ramalho and Lulu Cortez

Ocean - Velvet Underground

"The Back-Ward" is a show featuring cool soundtracks from the 60's and 70's;
exotica; lounge; now-sounds; incredibly-strange; tropicalia;
forgotten country and western; obscure garage & psychedelia; funk/70's
instro'; moog; early high-brow electronic; industrial and/or post-punk from the
late 70's/early 80's. More recent material may creep in from time to
time.
 
thanks for reading and/or listening
jb

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# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs. Vinyl, Vol. 7 (aprox.) Date: 04 Mar 2001 14:04:57 -0500 >Aah, the good ol' vinyl vs. CD discussion again! Didn't pop up for a >while... One day someone should go through the archives and write a book on >this subject. And how over the years the opinions have been slightly >changing. Did I recognize a new tone in the last posts? Just a few years ago I was listening to this old guy who's been playing the same records for 40 years and he siad something I will never forget. It was so funny. "For the past hour we have been playing records and not a single compact disk. You know how much trouble they can be!" He's been playing more CD's now. But still tons of vinyl. Disclamer! It's not Jimmy! ;') _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Collectors. Date: 04 Mar 2001 14:04:22 -0500 > This leads me to wonder what some people's favorite covers and/or > record packing is in their collections. My favourite is "Vegetarian Bavarian in Exile". A 12" record with only the outer grooves on one side recorded and the rest of the record is a sculpture of a mountain with a bunch of lost figures in Lederhosen (Bavarians). It plays, and was produced by a record dealer who also runs his own label in Holland which continues to produce limited edition musical art objects. Another is Mark Mothersbaugh's cassette version of "Musik for Insomniaks" on the Japanese TRA label, on a gold cassette and with a set of Mark Mothersbaugh playing cards included in the costom fit box! The biggest challenge is how to store these things! Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ebay, Record Dealers and Collectors Date: 04 Mar 2001 13:31:49 -0500 > >Another thing I've noticed more and more when I'm going on a garage sale run > >and asking if they have any records for sale are people either saying they're > >holding on to their albums to sell on eBay or offering really scratchy and > >not-so-rare records at ridiculous prices because they heard they were > >"valuable". .... Has anyone else noticed this particular trend? > More in antique stores than anyplace else. It's hard to tell if the rising > prices are due to eBay or general inflation. I'm kind of surprised you're > finding this trend at garage sales. I don't know if its just a problem of finite supply or dealers hoarding for Ebay but I can say I have not for some time now, found anything in vinyl worth buying at most of my usual haunts. I have noticed higher starting prices in the stores, but also less stock is moving. There have been slow periods before but I can't help but wonder how much is now being kept in anticipation of potential high auction prices. I think Alan is correct in saying that Ebay is no threat as people will search this service for something particular but are no more likely to buy junk records online than they would in a store, especaily with postage costs and minimum prices. Brian.. Hoping for a good find to make winter more bearable... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) Barbarella 2001 Date: 04 Mar 2001 11:41:43 -0800 Well if Jane Fonda wanted to remake "Barbarella" she lost her chance. Drew Barrymore is in the middle of producing and starring in the remake at this moment. I can hear all the sighs. Just another one of those movies that doesn't need to be remade, being remade. Steven Soderbergh is remaking "Oceans 11" right now as well, if anyone didn't know. Unlucky --- Mr. Unlucky presents Shoot To Kill, a weekly set of jazz, soundtrack music, Now Sound, and the occasional foray into international territory on Supersphere.com, Thursdays 1-2 p.m. (CST). Many past sets are archived for future listening pleasure. http://www.supersphere.com Get 250 color business cards for FREE! at Lycos Mail http://mail.lycos.com/freemail/vistaprint_index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) "The Moritz" Date: 04 Mar 2001 15:16:49 -0500 Mo! You've been reincarnated as a sofa: http://www.leathercenter.com/html/catalog/contemporary/moritz.html "Exemplify the essence of the East. The embrace of the Moritz is the quintessential element in your home for a peaceful mind." (It's a framed site, and this link busts the frames. If you want the "intended" presentation, link via the domain name and click through to "2001 Catalog".) --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Two Tv Tonight Date: 04 Mar 2001 15:27:43 -0500 Last minute, but... A 2 hour history of burlesque on A&E at 8:00pm and Midnight (eastern). Hopefully this won't be the usual cookie-cutter cable documentary. "Destination Moon" (1950) on TCM at 1:30am. Music by Leith Stevens. Special appearance by Woody Woodpecker. --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) Re: Polyester card Date: 04 Mar 2001 22:23:37 +0000 > From: "Magnus Sandberg" > > Polyester I saw on its premiere in Sweden, I was just a kid back then, > so I did not think it gave me that much (Except when one guy gets his > head cut off ;) That I loved.) I saved the "smell paper" a long time, > the pizza smell was still there 7-8 years after. Then I lost it when we > moved to a new house. There are several cards on sale on ebay, at a price actually ranging from 1.25 to 20 dollars. I still have mine (and it still stinks, some 15 years after!) but my daughter has just drawn moustaches on Tab Hunter's and Divine's faces. I had forgotten the movie (and the card) featured Dead Boy (literally: R.I.P.) Stiv Bators. Ciao Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Ebay, Record Dealers and Collectors Date: 04 Mar 2001 16:36:12 -0500 At 01:22 PM 3/4/01 +0100, Moritz R wrote: .> >BTW: did you sell these records singulary record by record? 1000s of them? I find it rather exhausting to do that on ebay . I sold most of the records by the box. I sold them for anywhere from fifty cents to three bucks each but what it came down to was estimating a price for each liquor store box of them. Some I sold for more than that. Some I sold for as much as ten or twenty dollars each but I had to go to specific stores for that. I guess I could have held onto them for ebay but instead I used the money for trade-ins. I haven't sold any on ebay yet because I don't have a credit card to pay for the listings. I held back a few hundred to sell on ebay but so far I've only bought on ebay. That however is probably finished. I bought forty records there. Half of them were almost worth the ridiculous money I spent on them. But the other half make the whole thing not worth it. It's not "ebay's fault". It's my fault for bidding on records that look interesting, all the while forgetting that 40 dollars is way too much to spend on something that you've never heard anything about. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs. Vinyl, Vol. 7 (aprox.) Date: 04 Mar 2001 16:58:23 -0500 At 01:58 PM 3/4/01 +0100, Moritz R wrote: > >Aah, the good ol' vinyl vs. CD discussion again!. Did I recognize a new tone in the last posts? In former discussions the question of sound was the main issue, now the users seem to getting used to the sound of the CD (or do they agree nowadays, that there isn't that much of a difference as they thought before? I think there is a difference but I've also gotten more used to the difference. I think one can still argue that vinyl sounds better than CD even if we have a hard time explaining what we mean by better. And no one can argue if you simply say "This is what I'm used to and this is what I will continue to prefer". For me it's a matter of what I'm used to hearing on vinyl and what I'm used to hearing on CD. I don't question the sound of a CD if that's the only medium in which I've heard the music. For me, Kruder and Dorfmeister go with the digital medium. One of the reasons I can switch from vinyl to CDR is that the CDR's I make from vinyl, sound like vinyl. I'm not sure if that makes sense but I guess there must be a huge difference between recording off an actual record and whatever they do when they reissue something that was originally recorded analogically. I also believe in what they call "digital fatigue". But in the end, I can suppress any of those feelings because I just want to hear so much, I can't let the differences in sound matter to me all that much. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Shiman" Subject: (exotica) Playlist for Dial-ated Pupils: March 3, 2001 Date: 05 Mar 2001 00:40:07 Can anyone tell me about this Richard Christensen character? I played something from his "Muve" LP on my show. It's his godawful "poetry", which he intones over the music with this overblown sense of drama. Like that William Shatner record. The music is heavily orchestrated, late 60's string-laden stuff with a slightly psychedelic vibe, arranged and conducted by one "Tartaglia", another mysterious character. Christensen also does his bit on the electronic piece "There's a Good Earth out Tonight", easily the best thing from the Mystic Moods' "Extensions" LP. Like, who was this guy? -Dan ARTIST SONG ALBUM FORMAT LABEL HENRY MANCINI Baretta's Theme (Keep Your Eye on the Sparrow) The Cop Show Themes LP RCA JOHN GREGORY ORCHESTRA Streets of San Francisco TV's Greatest Detective Hits LP Mercury FERRANTE AND TEICHER Hong Kong Soul Brother In a Soulful Mood LP United Artists ROD MCKUEN Tokyo Time of Desire LP HiFi RICHARD CHRISTENSEN Spires Muve LP Capitol BEAVER AND KRAUSE Spaced In a Wild Sanctuary LP Warner Brothers MYSTIC MOODS ORCHESTRA There's a Good Earth Out Tonight Extensions LP Philips PERCY FAITH Black Magic Woman Black Magic Woman LP Columbia ARMANDO TROVAIOLI The Imposter Treasure of San Gennaro (Soundtrack) LP Buddah THE 3 RING CIRCUS Fantastic Voyage Groovin' on the Sunshine LP RCA LES BAXTER Boca Chica Que Mango! LP Alshire JOHNNY KEATING'S KOMBO Delilah Percussive Moods LP Phase 4 JOHNNY KEATING The Sacrifice The Keating Sound LP Phase 4 ARTIE BARSAMIAN Nene Aman More Belly Dance LP Fiesta PIERRE NOLES Shake Away Everybody Dance the Ay Bo Le LP Coral EXUMA Junkanoo The Junk Band and Daddy Ya Ya LP Mercury DAKTARIS Voodoo Soul Stew Soul Explosion CD Desco GUY DUROSIER Carolina Acao Riviera Hotel presents Souvenir d'Haiti EP 7" Riviera Hotel presents Souvenir d'Haiti JEAN DE VRES AND HIS AFRO-DRUMS Voodoo Spirit Song Exciting Voodoo! LP Buckingham RICHARD HAYMAN Gris Gris Voodoo! LP Mercury KAIWAZA Voodoo Moon Hawaiian Holiday LP Wyncote ROBERT DRASNIN Voodoo Percussion Exotique LP Tops LES BAXTER Voodoo Dreams Jungle Jazz LP Capitol PRESTON EPPS Call of the Jungle Bongo Bongo Bongo LP Original Sound HERBIE MANN/JOHNNY RAE'S AFRO JAZZ SEPTET Jungle Fantasy Herbie Mann's African Suite LP United Artists Hear! "Dial-ated Pupils" -- every Saturday 4-6 pm CST exclusively at www.radio1austin.com. I will lead you safely through the perilous dark jungles of Austin's scratchiest record collection. Exotic jazz. Obscure Latin, Afro, and Eastern grooves. Easy listening arcana. Bring your bug spray. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) Barbarella 2001 Date: 04 Mar 2001 09:24:00 -0600 Unlucky wrote: Steven Soderbergh is remaking "Oceans 11" right now as well, if anyone didn't know. ***************************** Does anyone know who is starring in it? Did I hear a rumor tha Geoge Clooney was in it? Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Otto Subject: (exotica) The Polynesians Date: 02 Mar 2001 23:23:10 -0800 Does anyone have additional information about this band? I have listed the lps that I have and am wondering if there are others or other information besides the actual records The Polynesians stood out to me very early on when I only had about 20 Hawaiian records and I found their Beautiful Hawaii record. It is markedly better than the rest of the Hoale stuff and better than the traditional Hawaiian stuff (though not as good as Denny or Lyman in my book) Later when I got their second (?) lp with the liner notes about them being the house band at an infamous Tiki restuarant called The Polynesian, they were ensconced in my heart! All of their records are on Crown, none have dates so I am guessing on some of the chronology here based on cover art. Crown originally used liner notes with a short list of their other records but later switched to having the same back on all releases and this is the common lisitng of seemingly every record on their label with 6 pictures on the left and large triangle/arrow that is grey. After that design they used "Music for every Mood" with sixteen covers filling the back of the lp. According to the back Crown label listings here are The Polynesians records: CST 113 Aloha Hawaii CST 163 Blue Hawaii (not credited to The Polynesians probably in hopes that buyers would think it was the real Blue Hawaii soundtrack) CST 169 Polynesia (also not credited) CST 214 Beautiful Hawaii CST 223 Hawaii Calling CST 271 Hawaiian Paradise CLP 5265 Lovely Hawaii CLP 5304 Hawaiian Sunset CLP 5519 Hawaiian Love Songs "Aloha Hawaii" this is The Polynesians first lp CST 113 and appears to be the 13th lp on the Crown label cover is a generic shot of Waikiki from Matson collection has the original back with liners band: Harry Baty, Sam Kaapuni, Lani Sang, with Sam Koki Songs: To You Sweetheart Aloha Song of the Islands Lovely Hula Hands Beyond the Reef Kalua Tomi Tomi Loch Lomond Beauty Hula Pulupe Aloha Oe "Blue Hawaii" I only have the generic back version of this cover band: Harry Baty, Sam Kaapuni, Freddy Tavares, Bob Nichols, Joe Guerro, Joe Keawe Songs: Ke Kali Nei Iau (Hawaiian Wedding Song) Blue Hawaii Isle of Golden Dreams Mauna Wili Hula Aua Chant Sweet Leilani Makala Pua Maui and Maui Girl Island Moon Kou Kino Mambo "Polyneisa - The music of Hawaii-Tahiti-Samoa" I have 4 copies of this record, all four have different covers Two have the liner notes and are numbered CLP 5136 and CST 169 (stereo) the other two are obviously more recent pressings as they have the backs mentioned above This has a great cover shot in front of The Polynesian Tiki restuarant with a Hawaiian couple with an outrigger and a Tiki on one side of a waterfall and the band in the foreground on the other side of the waterfall Back liner notes are by John Marlo with a shot of The Polynesian band: Harry Baty, Sam Kaapuni, Bob Nichols featuring Ben Chapman with Freddie (sic) Tavares and Ernie Tavares (any relation to the Tavares family that started the disco band Tavares? They were from Los Angeles!) Songs: Tahitian Festival Tamure Marcelle A Vahini Minoi Minoi Vana Vana Cafe Au Lait Papio Vahine Anamite Tanga Tika Maruru A Vau "Beautiful Hawaii" Cover appears to be the same shoot as Polynesia. liner notes are by John Marlo I have two, one is CLP 5191 and has the generic back the other is CST 214 (stereo) and has liner notes and a short listing of Crown records ranging from numbers 101 - 221 The stereo version is on red vinyl!! band: Harry Baty, Sam Kaapuni, Bob Nichols with Joe Keava (sic?) songs: Pagan Love Song Orchid Lei Lei Makamae (Original Hawaiian Wedding Song) Te Manu Pukarua Kamahula Moon of Manakura Utere Utere Farewell and Aloha Ua Like no a like Na Hala "Hawaii Calling" Cover shot is on a beach. and has songwriter credits on the cover, generic back band: Harry Baty, Sam Kaapuni, Bob Nichols with Bernie Kaii, Ernie Tavares, Marie Terangi songs: Little Grass Shack My Yellow Ginger Lei Princess Pupule Lullaby of Birdland Tanga Ta Hura Hura (Marie Terangi) Little Brown Girl Lehua (Kaapuni-Kaii) ASCAP At the Barefoot Bar (Kaapuni-Kaii) ASCAP Hawaiian War Chant Tahiti Nui (Marie Terangi) "Hawaiian Paradise" generic back band: Harry Baty, Sam Kaapuni, Bob Nichols songs: Kings Serenade My Hawaii Nei Momi Lei Mahina Go Around the Island Lani Kai Lovely Tahiti Mai Poina One Two Three Four Bora Bora "Lovely Hawaii" I thought I read somewhere that this was their fifth lp but if the catalog numbers are correct than this would be their seventh. Generic back Front probably shot at The Polynesian. Band has really cool Tiki shirts band: Harry Baty, Sam Kaapuni, Bob Nichols songs: Song of the Isle Hawaiian China Doll Nakulu Mele Aumoe Moana Lua Shadows of the Night Lovely Lei Ilima Stars Shining O'er Hawaii Puuwai Ue Ue - O'tuu "Hawaiian Sunset" I have two copies of this one Titled as Richard Kauhi and the Polynesians featuring Harry Baty, Bob Nichols, Bernie Mattison, Bernie Allen songs: Remember Be Sure For You and I Beautiful Kaala I Love Your Eyes Aina Hau Ua Like, No A Like (the only repeat title so far!!) Hawaii Land of Enchantment Hilo Bay Honolulu I Love You My Hawaiian Home "Hawaiian Love Songs" MONO this has the later generic back with 16 covers no band members listed songs: My Hawaii Nei Momi Lei Mahina Go Around the Island Aloha Oe Lani Kai Lovely Tahiti Mai Poina ONe Two Three Four Bora Bora # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Ebay, Record Dealers and Collectors Date: 04 Mar 2001 09:35:54 -0600 Alan wrote: I guess I could have held onto them for ebay but instead I used the money for trade- ins. I haven't sold any on ebay yet because I don't have a credit card to pay for the listings. I held back a few hundred to sell on ebay but so far I've only bought on ebay. ******************************** You could put them up for sale on the list only... we could all bid on them, against each other, pay way too much and end up cursing you.\ Sounds like FUN! Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) The Polynesians Date: 04 Mar 2001 22:58:36 -0500 >band: Harry Baty, Sam Kaapuni, Bob Nichols featuring Ben Chapman with >Freddie Tavares and Ernie Tavares (any relation to the Tavares family that >started the disco band Tavares? They were from Los Angeles!) Freddie Tavares worked in R&D with Leo Fender at Fender (drew up the mechanical drawings for the Stratocaster among other things). He was also a busy session musician on steel guitar. Some sources say he did the steel guitar swoop at the beginning of Looney Tunes cartoons (some sources say other people did it -- maybe various people did it at different times). He was born on Maui in 1913, got his start in the business playing steel for Harry Owens' Royal Hawaiians orchestra in the 30s. Migrated to LA with the orchestra in the 40s. Ernie was his brother, who also played with the Royal Hawaiians. Freddie might still be alive. At least I don't remember hearing that he "took a cab" (to use Vic Mizzy's excellent phrase). No idea about any relative connection to the disco band. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: Re: (exotica) Oceans Eleven 2001 Date: 04 Mar 2001 22:20:36 -0600 Colleen wrote: > > Unlucky wrote: > > Steven Soderbergh is remaking "Oceans 11" right now as well, if > anyone didn't know. > > ***************************** > > Does anyone know who is starring in it? Did I hear a rumor tha Geoge > Clooney was in it? According to http://www.imdb.com/ , here's the cast : George Clooney .... Danny Ocean Brad Pitt .... Dusty Ryan Casey Affleck Julia Roberts .... Beatrice Ocean Miguel Pérez (I) .... Explosives Cop J.P. Manoux .... Aide-de-Camp rest of cast listed alphabetically Alan Arkin .... Saul Bloom Scott Caan Don Cheadle .... Basher Matt Damon .... Linus Zerga Andy Garcia Elliott Gould .... Ruben Tischkoff Edward Jemison David Jensen (II) Bernie Mac Rusty Meyers .... Security Guard Bill Murray .... Nick the Lounge Singer -Indy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ebay, Record Dealers and Collectors Date: 04 Mar 2001 23:17:27 -0500 Alan wrote: > It's not "ebay's fault". It's my fault for bidding on records that look interesting, all the while > forgetting that 40 dollars is way too much to spend on something that you've never heard > anything about. This is probably the main reason I decided a few years back to officially drop my want list, you now, that list of things any serious collector keeps on them at all times and gives out to other collectors in the hope they may have something. I think it was partly because a lot of what I was looking for was so obscure, I realized I would never find the huge majority of it, and partly because I became convinced that anything really good would be reissued (some very obscure recordings are appearing as legit reissues these days!) Mainly though, I couldn't justify paying a lot of money for records I thought were good because of the label or artist connection, that I read were good, or that I saw on other want lists and subsequently added to mine. There are a few I would buy just to complete a set but the truth is I may have just lost interest in searching. I recently passed up on early Foetus 7"s at $50+ each thinking I don't want them that bad, only to find I could download the damned things off Napster! Now THAT was never an option before, and to be honest it's all I need... Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (exotica) CD vs. Vinyl, Vol. 7 (aprox.) Date: 04 Mar 2001 23:17:16 -0500 Alan wrote: > I think one can still argue that vinyl sounds better than CD even if we have a hard time > explaining what we mean by better. And no one can argue if you simply say "This is what > I'm used to and this is what I will continue to prefer". I really notice vinyl defects when I record from it. By defects I mostly mean what the turntable transfers, ie rumble and power hum, and what the cartridge transfers, ie crackles and pops. Its something I've forgotten all about with CDs and maybe as a result I notice it more. I still insist a good CD player can match the quality and warmth of vinyl but Alan's right when he says its all in what we're used to. Sound is a very subjective thing and if you don't believe me read a few articles in audiophile magazines! Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Different Neighborhoods Date: 04 Mar 2001 21:40:50 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >The kind of records I value is still often ignored here. As a compliment >I order stuff from America, becase there I can easily find great items, >so what shall I do? -Magnus Well, the best thing to do, if you aren't dead set on specific titles is to find someone in the US with access to good fleamarkets who will scoop of a batch of stuff that looks promising and ship them to you. You can't pick and choose that way, but you get the thrill of digging through unknown stuff. Here's an offer... I live in Los Angeles where we have a record swap meet every month. I'll go to the swap meet and buy you twenty records that fit within the percussion/exotica/easy listening genre in good shape that look good to me... You'll have to let me know what artists you have covered already, so I avoid duplication as much as I can. It will probably cost me between forty and fifty dollars. Most easy listening records cost between 1 and 5 dollars here. I'll ship those to you sea mail at no charge. In return, you send me the same quantity of european recordings from 1960 and earlier that fit into the categories of big band, jazz, swiss yodelling, accordian music, and strange ethnic music. Not european pressings of American records... Europen bands. If you can find record collections of really early european pop music from the teens through the thirties, even better. Are these sorts of records available in the bins where you live? I have heard recordings of european orchestras who play "American style" big band and swing with vocals in strange languages and they sound very amazing to me. I have heard a couple of yodelling records from the early fifties that sound like they are from Mars. One of my prized CDs is a collection of "sweet band" foxtrots from Nazi Berlin. I know there is good stuff in your area that we just can't get here in the US. I imagine I would be as happy in your thrift stores as you would be in mine. If it works out, we can gather together more batches... does that sound practical? Let me know if this interests you. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Re: CD vs. Vinyl, Vol. 7 (aprox.) Date: 04 Mar 2001 21:40:53 -0800 >From: Moritz R > >Did I recognize a new tone in the last posts? In former >discussions the question of sound was the main issue, now the users seem >to getting used to the sound of the CD (or do they agree nowadays, that >there isn't that much of a difference as they thought before?) If record companies went out and found pristine pressings, and transferred them directly to CD with no alteration, I would be gung ho for CD's. Unfortunately, the people who re-release records feel that they know *better* than the original artists who produced the music. They feel that they are obligated to "correct" the quaint, antiquated "mistakes of the past", and express their own creativity at the expense of the original artists. (Who are long dead and gone and unable to complain.) This results in music that is proccessed and packaged like luncheon meat... stupid, kitch covers that focus on trendiness and demean the talent of the musicians who made the music... liner notes with cocktail recipes, but NO MENTION of the musicians and their careers... music with grossly unrealistic EQ settings, making acoustic instruments sound like buzzy synthesizers... older recordings muted and dulled by draconian digital filters just to remove all traces of a slight amount of unobtrusive surface noise... random collections of completely unrelated tracks selected for no other reason but novelty value, not musical value... deceptive packaging, repeating the same tracks previously released in another "best of" with just a sprinkling of new material... I take CD reissues on a case by case basis. CD's are more convenient and portable. But they haven't been produced well in a lot of cases. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) The disappearing record dealers Date: 04 Mar 2001 21:40:52 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >As a shameless flea/thrift bottom-feeder, I would happily continue to >ignore eBay and stick with the fleas. But the problem is -- and maybe (I >hope) this is only a regional thing -- the flea market record dealers are >disappearing! -m.ace I haven't noticed that where I live. The thing about ebay is, something worth a dollar or two isn't really worth paying the listing fee for. If you put a hundred dollar records in ebay, and most of them pass, you could be stuck with a pretty big piece of change in fees on relatively valueless stuff. There are less obvious high ticket records at the swap meet, but that's OK by me because I don't care to spend over a few bucks on a record. The funny thing about swap meets is that the EXACT SAME record in the EXACT SAME condition can be at one guy's stand for sixty bucks, and three stalls down for five. It all depends on who prices it. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Re: CD vs. Vinyl, Vol. 7 (aprox.) Date: 04 Mar 2001 21:40:55 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 16:58:23 -0500 >From: alan zweig > >I think one can still argue that vinyl sounds better than CD even if we >have a hard time explaining what we mean by better. The best way to prove it is to do an A/B comparison. >For me it's a matter of what I'm used to hearing on vinyl and what I'm used >to hearing on CD. I don't question the sound of a CD if that's the only >medium in which I've heard the music. I'd prefer to hear the mix and mastering that the artist approved. A lot of the records that we appreciate were aimed at hifi nuts. The artists took an active part in the mixing and mastering of the music. Many records are like auditory movies, with very careful contrasts in sound, perspective and balance. That is as much a part of the music as the melody or performance itself. >One of the reasons I can switch from vinyl to CDR is that the CDR's I make >from vinyl, sound like vinyl. I've had that exact same experience. Why don't commercial releases sound that good? See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Music vs. Covers Date: 04 Mar 2001 21:40:49 -0800 >At 12:24 PM 3/3/01 -0600, Colleen Pyles wrote: >> >>Okay, here's my question for You vinyl collectors out there. >>Are you purchasing that LP for the cover or for the music inside? ALWAYS the music. It's all about the music... >>And if it is out on CD, do you still want the LP? I'm not happy with the sound of most CD reissues. They compress it and de-noise the life out of it. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Ultra Lounge Date: 05 Mar 2001 02:08:40 EST They're not legally available but I've seen them bootlegged. Same guy I use for 77 Sunset Strip and Honey West, has (what looks to be) the entire run of this. Linda was featured as a singer/lounge owner, but only for one or two seasons of its run. I'll try to find the address. He doesn't do anything over the web as far as I know, but he does advertise in Outre/Filmfax. --David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) The Polynesians Date: 05 Mar 2001 13:27:11 +0100 (CET) citerar Otto : > > Does anyone have additional information about this band? > I have listed the lps that I have and am wondering if there are > others or other information besides the actual records No sorry, but I have heard "Lovely Hawaii" and it was really good, a nice cover too. Definetely LPs to search for. You have quite a bunch. Nice to see you are posting again, Magnus -----------Go Buzz!------------ http://www.bellybongo.com/gobuzz/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) Ira Ironstrings Date: 05 Mar 2001 06:47:00 -0600 bag@hubris.net wrote: >Most of us know that Louis F. Busch has one pseudonym: Joe "Fingers" Carr. > > >Now I wonder whether he had two. > > >Ira Ironstrings did a number of Warner Brothers LPs produced by Busch and >arranged by Busch. The question is...who was Ira Ironstrings? Ira was Alvino Rey. There's a new page on Ira at the Space Age Pop page: http://www.spaceagepop.com/ironstri.htm I learned the truth about Ira from Stan Cornyn, ex-Warner Brothers exec and the king of liner note prose. And yes, there is a page on Mort Garson at Space Age Pop as well: http://www.spaceagepop.com/garson.htm Switching back to now. Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) Different Neighborhoods Date: 05 Mar 2001 08:19:22 -0500 > I have heard recordings of european orchestras who play "American > style" big band and swing with vocals in strange languages and > they sound very amazing to me. I have heard a couple of yodelling > records from the early fifties that sound like they are from Mars. > One of my prized CDs is a collection of "sweet band" foxtrots > from Nazi Berlin. I know there is good stuff in your area that > we just can't get here in the US. I imagine I would be as happy > in your thrift stores as you would be in mine. The local public radio station in Bloomington, Ind. used to play a show called "Northern Lights," and I once recorded from it some terrific big band music from Finland. Big band music and ballroom dance are both very popular there--even the Finnair pilots have their own band. Finnish is definitely an oddball language, but it sounds great when they sing. Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Different Neighborhoods On Finland Date: 05 Mar 2001 14:37:01 +0100 (CET) citerar Clayton Black : Finnish is definitely > an oddball language, but it sounds great when they sing. We have lots of finnish people in Sweden, to my joy since there are special TV shows for them from the finnish Television. There are a lot of documentaries of artists living in the forest making strange art, just like in the old days here. Finland is different from Sweden, even though they border to us. But I guess we're becoming more alike all of us, for good and bad, seeing the same dumb american movies and tv serials, thank you very much. :( Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Different Neighborhoods Date: 05 Mar 2001 06:35:07 -0800 At 08:19 AM 05-03-01 -0500, Clayton wrote: >Finnish is definitely >an oddball language, but it sounds great when they sing. Isn't Finland the country where Vaartinaa (I think I am mispelling it-- I heard it pronounced "var-tin-AW") is from? I first heard this group of female vocalists in 1996 on CD and think they are great! Perhaps it is the language, but it is also the harmonic blendings which are more Slavic than anything, which makes this group so unique to my ears anyway. Of course, their songs deal with unusual but important subjects which focus on women's lives. This may also be a reason for their success...they sing like they have purpose, like they care. Hard to tell when you don't speak the language, but they sound very articulate yet also sound like they are having fun. Byron ___...--''''***^^^^^^""""""^^^^^***''''---___ "You've got to stand for something or ||| you'll fall for anything." ||| ||| ---John Mellencamp ||| ||| ||| |||bag AT hubris DOT net Portland, OR, USA||| """^^^'''***----...__________...----'''^^^""" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) The disappearing record dealers Date: 05 Mar 2001 08:55:48 -0600 At 9:40 PM 3/4/01, bigshot wrote: >The funny thing about swap meets is that the EXACT SAME record in the >EXACT SAME condition can be at one guy's stand for sixty bucks, and >three stalls down for five. It all depends on who prices it. True of record shows too. I'd guess it also depends on how long the record has been in stock and how eager the dealer is to get rid of it. At one record show I saw Free Design's Kites are Fun for $12 at one booth and for $25 at another. Condition didn't seem to effect pricing. Haven't seen a $50 price spread for at a show though. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) Different Neighborhoods Date: 05 Mar 2001 09:49:02 -0500 > Isn't Finland the country where Vaartinaa (I think I am mispelling it-- > I heard it pronounced "var-tin-AW") is from? I first heard this > group of female vocalists in 1996 on CD and think they are great! > > Perhaps it is the language, but it is also the harmonic blendings which are > more Slavic than anything, Careful what you say to the Finns--don't tell them their music is Slavic. People are touchy about ur-culture in that part of the world. Yes, Vaartinaa (it's spelled with umlauts, and it might have another n) is from Finland. I like them too. The best track I've heard from them is on an "Arthur" (you know, the lovable ardvaark on PBS) CD. It's supposed to be the song for Binky Barnes (the tough kid who needs a nightlight). Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Different Neighborhoods On Finland Date: 05 Mar 2001 09:20:29 -0600 Speaking of Finns and Swedes, I got into a minor tussle with a Swedish guy recently. Didn't a Finn cover Elvis tunes in Latin...and aren't there also Finnish radio shows that broadcast in Latin? My Swedish pal said he'd never heard of such a thing. Lots of Finns in Sweden, like Magnus said, and he thought Latin was as dead in Finland as anyplace else. Did I misremember? I thought the Finn-Latin connection had come up here before. Head-scratching Mimi Magnus wrote: >We have lots of finnish people in Sweden, to my joy since there are >special TV shows for them from the finnish Television. There are a lot >of documentaries of artists living in the forest making strange art, >just like in the old days here. Finland is different from Sweden, even >though they border to us. But I guess we're becoming more alike all of >us, for good and bad, seeing the same dumb american movies and tv >serials, thank you very much. :( # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jenna Subject: Re: (exotica) Barbarella 2001/Ocean's 11 Date: 05 Mar 2001 10:06:33 -0500 fcobalt@lycos.com wrote: > Steven Soderbergh is remaking "Oceans 11" right now as well, if anyone didn't know. > Wasn't "Ocean's 11" sort of a remake in itself? We rented "Seven Thieves" with Edward G. Robinson and a very saucy Joan Collins the other night and it was almost identical to Ocean's 11 - with a slight change of ending. Anyone know anything else about it? Jenna # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster dreams Date: 05 Mar 2001 15:39:45 +0100 Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek schrieb: > Alan wrote: > > > Is this true? > > Or will Napster simply disappear? > > It's owned by Bertelsmann now, isn't it? That means it won't disappear - > soon it will just cost us a lot of money to download the latest Britney > Spears track. I don't think this is entirely true. The news about it are rather confusing: First Napster said it's impossible to automatically filter out registered tracks. Actually *ALL* tracks are somewhat registered, so this is bullshit from the start. However: then the music industry presented a list of 5600 tracks that they wanted to be filtered out immediately - all the current big selling hit records, BUT: if you change just one letter in the title of the song, you can trick them out, so they won't be satisfied with that solution in the long run anyway. AND: it means basically: we care for our big sellers, all other artists - i.e. all the small, independent artists will not be protected, people like Tipsy and Don Tiki et al. So I don't see why this will be really a dream come true. (We discussed this before: I still don't see why artists we like, starting from Martin Denny and not ending with the mentioned members of this list (me too!) should not get paid for the music they bring to all of us, but I won't discuss this again). Finally Napster said, they will charge their customers in the future and give part (!) of the money to the artists as royalties, which again means, that the big sellers will get most of the money, unless they develop a technical system, where each song is registered singularily and the money is transferred to the referring artist, song by song, download by download, a system that Napster currently doesn't have. All in all I don't think your dream - if you still want to call it one - will come true as you dream it, AZ. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) "The Moritz" Date: 05 Mar 2001 15:44:11 +0100 "m.ace" schrieb: > Mo! You've been reincarnated as a sofa: > > http://www.leathercenter.com/html/catalog/contemporary/moritz.html > > "Exemplify the essence of the East. The embrace of the Moritz is the quintessential element in your home for a peaceful mind." :-D I'm not a specialist in Buddhism, but don't you have to die, before you can be reincarnated? Just asking... Mo PS: Wait a minute! After seeing "The Sixth Sense"... m-m-maybe I'm dead already? -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) CD-Rs - Labels vs. Booklets Date: 05 Mar 2001 15:39:43 +0100 Kevin Crossman schrieb: > Moritz R wrote: > > I haven't heard that a label is a protection for the CD and I cannot imagine why this should be the case. > > Well, they do sell special pens that can write on CD-R surfaces w/out > scratching the disk. Of course, maybe you're right and that is just a > sales ploy. :-) uuh... you don't write on the side of the CD that is read by the laser, do you? Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Re: huge Burlesque show!! Date: 05 Mar 2001 16:11:28 +0100 mon dieu! how did you get *that* job? Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) "The Moritz" Date: 05 Mar 2001 10:36:23 -0500 > > Mo! You've been reincarnated as a sofa: > > > > http://www.leathercenter.com/html/catalog/contemporary/moritz.html > >:-D I'm not a specialist in Buddhism, but don't you have to die, before >you can be reincarnated? Ummm, must be a case of premature reincarnation. --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: Re: (exotica) Barbarella 2001/Ocean's 11 Date: 05 Mar 2001 09:45:17 -0600 > Wasn't "Ocean's 11" sort of a remake in itself? We rented "Seven > Thieves" with Edward G. Robinson and a very saucy Joan Collins the other > night and it was almost identical to Ocean's 11 - with a slight change of > ending. Anyone know anything else about it? I don't think "Seven Thieves" was a remake of "Ocean's Eleven". They both came out the same year (1960) and "Seven Thieves" was based on a novel by Max Catto. It's a terrific film, BTW. From the mid-50s through the mid-60s, there's a wonderful sort of sub-genre of moves like this that might be called "caper films". A small group of experts come together to pull off an impossible heist. "Seven Golden Men" is a good example of the genre. Others include "Five Against the House", "The Asphalt Jungle", "They Came to Rob Las Vegas" (rare soundtrack by George Georges Garvarentz) , "Caper of the Golden Bulls" (music by Vic Mizzy!), "Topkapi", etc. There are lots more. For my money, the two greatest caper films are a couple of European films: "Rififi", directed by Jules Dassin and which spawned a bunch of sequels (the film's centerpiece is the 28- minute heist sequence, filmed in total silence --no dialog or music) and "Big Deal on Madonna Street", a comedy which spoofs the whole genre. Sorry if this is off-topic. I just like caper films! Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Hall Subject: Re: (exotica) Different Neighborhoods On Finland Date: 05 Mar 2001 11:24:35 -0500 On a somewhat related (surf / new exotica) note, the last 4 = V=E4rttin=E4 releases were produced & mixed by Laika & the Cosmonauts drummer/leader Janne Haavisto, who also plays percussion & put together the drum loops = etc. 2 V=E4rttin=E4 tracks were covered by the Cosmonauts as bonus tracks on = the US version of their "Instruments of Terror" (UPST 005) CD, probably my = fave 90's surf disc. on Mon, 5 Mar 2001 clayton.black@washcoll.edu wrote: >Careful what you say to the Finns-don't tell them their music is = Slavic. >People are touchy about ur-culture in that part of the world. Yes, >Vaartinaa (it's spelled with umlauts, and it might have another n) is = from >Finland. I like them too. The best track I've heard from them is on = an >"Arthur" (you know, the lovable ardvaark on PBS) CD. It's supposed to = be >the song for Binky Barnes (the tough kid who needs a nightlight). > >Clayton A friend of mine made me a tape of this, by a Dr... hmm, can't recall. = But yes, a Finnish gentleman exists who has indeed translated & covered = Elvis in Latin. Tape's at home, I'll have to check.=20 Meanwhile, the Swedish Elvis may be found at http://www.algonet.se/~pergunne/ljud.html =20 on Mon, 5 Mar 2001 mimim@texas.net wrote: >Speaking of Finns and Swedes, I got into a minor tussle with a Swedish = guy >recently. Didn't a Finn cover Elvis tunes in Latin...and aren't = there >also Finnish radio shows that broadcast in Latin? My Swedish pal said = he'd >never heard of such a thing. Lots of Finns in Sweden, like Magnus = said, and >he thought Latin was as dead in Finland as anyplace else. Did I >misremember? I thought the Finn-Latin connection had come up here = before. >Head-scratching Mimi ***************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Different Neighborhoods On Finland Date: 05 Mar 2001 17:43:51 +0100 (CET) I wrote: >But I guess we're becoming more alike all of > us, for good and bad, seeing the same dumb american movies and tv > serials, thank you very much. :( What a meaningless judgement, I am sorry. I have so many nice american friends and to blame them for something I dont like is not worthy a swede. Once again sorry, there are still things made of gold to be found... From America too. Since I was a child America has been the provider of cool, things strange, pretty and totally kneeslapping funny. It is just that genre films nowadays are so rude and cruel, so faschist. I'll just watch something else instead of complain. My biggest excuses to all americans on the list, I like you very much! Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Different Neighborhoods On Finland Date: 05 Mar 2001 12:18:33 -0500 on 3/5/01 10:20 AM, Mimi Mayer at mimim@texas.net wrote: > > Speaking of Finns and Swedes, I got into a minor tussle with a Swedish guy > recently. Didn't a Finn cover Elvis tunes in Latin...and aren't there > also Finnish radio shows that broadcast in Latin? My Swedish pal said he'd > never heard of such a thing. Lots of Finns in Sweden, like Magnus said, and > he thought Latin was as dead in Finland as anyplace else. Did I > misremember? I thought the Finn-Latin connection had come up here before. I'm not sure about the Latin connection, but I do know that the tango is hugely popular in Finland, and there is a specific musical style of Finnish tango (if I recall, they utilise the chromatic accordion rather than the bandoneon). We have a large Finnish community around here - out where Dominec lives actually, about 50 miles from Boston - that has huge tango parties on summer weekends (in a place with saunas as well) br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Different Neighborhoods On Finland Date: 05 Mar 2001 10:03:36 -0800 (PST) Hey, we're just trying make everybody mellow and peppy. I mean, what it must do to a person to view those depressing Bergman films of virgin sacrifice and knights playing badminton with death, year in and year out... What the devil reinforces the national if not global appetite for this ongoing US ersatz circus maximus output such as Cops, Survivor, Scroggery Island, Friends, Malcolm in the Middle, Jim Carrey, etc. What does it say of the yearnings and intent of our silent masses (or as the Russians used to refer to their then passive populace, "the dark people")that such product is regurgitated year in and year out. Is it a sort of cow-like complacency? Are our desires and tastes manufactured for us and reinforced by vigorous advertising? Do the (corporate) governments of the west use this subcretinous programming for the same reason dentist offices and shopping centres used Muzak: to lull us into a sense of artificial ease, to forestall dissent. We are all cattle in the pen. Never doubt it. Mooooo Drink Coca-cola Pepsi. Be all you can be. Toyota Corolla, -BashoW --- Magnus Sandberg wrote: seeing the same dumb american > movies and tv > serials, thank you very much. :( __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: CD vs. Vinyl, Vol. 7 (approx.) Date: 05 Mar 2001 13:06:32 -0500 I feel the reason that our CD-R's sound better is the fact that most of us have less access to the tools to tinker with. This, however, is nothing too new. Back in the early 80's a record store owner/collector was bemoaning the extremely variant quality of reissues. Some were quite good (some of Rhino's and Chess, before MCA latched onto them) and the others were a horrible mess of fake stereo and altered covers. "Why don't they just put out the reissue in straight sound lahk [he had a weird accent - Ed.] Route 66 does?", said my friend (who, by the way, wrote the liner notes to the Varese Sarabande LPs of the Twilight Zone) I found that most of the European companies found the best vinyl copies they could, if there were no obtainable masters and put out what they had. Route 66 in particular had at least one fan in Ruth Brown, who was contacted by the label before they issued her material. Not to let off the hook entirely, Red Lightning's "In My Younger Days" by Junior Wells is a great record, but one side of it is taken from bad 45's and 78's and the noise reduction that they used makes for dropouts in the music. The most egregious example that comes to mind is the tinkering that they did with the Robert Johnson reissue. Glad beyond words that it was done, but the sound was worse than the vinyl (King of the Delta Blues Singers Vol. 1. Vol. 2 on vinyl sounds really awful) which some engineer and producer decided to "fix". As I have stated before, we have had about 100 years to figure out vinyl and roughly twenty to figure out the digital realm. By sheer dint of time, it is easy which one will sound better, by and large. And yes, there are better sounding CD's than LPs and vice versa, just as there are paintings that are better than photographs and vice versa and other mailing list that are INFERIOR TO US! I SAY INFER... You get the picture. Reaching for Digitalis, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) Doctor Ammondt (repost. Date: 05 Mar 2001 13:17:13 -0500 Lou Smith, king of the links, sent the following a while ago: HELSINKI, Finland (AP) -- Elvis lives -- even in the long-dead language of Sumerian. A Finnish professor who has recorded two albums of Elvis Presley songs translated into Latin now plans to record some of them in Sumerian, a language that died out about 4,000 years ago. Jukka Ammondt said Friday that the first track he plans to record is ``Blue Suede Shoes.'' In that Sumerians had neither suede nor shoes, per se, the title translates into ``Esir Kus Za-gin,'' literally ``sandals of leather of the color of a blue gem.'' Unlike many rockers who don't care if their singing is comprehensible, Ammondt is concerned about enunciation. ``I'm not sure about my Sumerian, but they say Finnish is well-suited to pronouncing Sumerian because it's such a phonetic language,'' said Ammondt, a literature professor at the University of Jyvaskyla, 160 miles north of Helsinki. Not that there will be anyone around to criticize if he mispronounces a few words. Sumerian, used in the lower Euphrates River valley in what is now Iraq, died out as a spoken language in about 2000 BC. Ammondt's recordings have novelty value, but also reflect the wide interest in languages in Finland, where almost everyone is at least trilingual. National radio even has regular programming in Latin. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Different Neighborhoods On Finland Date: 05 Mar 2001 10:43:08 -0800 (PST) hope you're not responding to my reponse. I meant that to be humorous. And besides, you were absolutely correct. The bulk of our films and television programming is, obviously, crap. (The curious thing is that we're - or is it they're? - able to export it) And in the cinemas - we now have to sit through commercials before the film. That means we are paying corporations to bombard us with advertisements. It is time for a revolution (wake me when it's over. zzzzzzzzzzzzzz). --- Magnus Sandberg wrote: > > What a meaningless judgement, I am sorry. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Hey mister Brad! Date: 05 Mar 2001 20:04:46 +0100 (CET) I'll have to interrupt your lurking! You gotta add a Don Ralke LP to your Space Age Pop website, "Bongo Madness" Crown CLP 5019. Or does that not qualifie? I think much of it sound exotica, it's a great album! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) The disappearing record dealers Date: 05 Mar 2001 14:20:44 -0500 At 08:55 AM 3/5/01 -0600, Mimi Mayer wrote: .> >. At one >record show I saw Free Design's Kites are Fun for $12 at one booth and for >$25 at another. Condition didn't seem to effect pricing. Next time that happens, buy them both. Alan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Different Neighborhoods On Finland Date: 05 Mar 2001 20:21:23 +0100 (CET) citerar Ben Waugh : > > hope you're not responding to my reponse. I meant that > to be humorous Tell that to the FBI! Mooo Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Lest we forget!....... Date: 05 Mar 2001 14:18:28 -0500 Had a laugh the other night. I put on Lenny Dee "Dee-Licious" (with that ridiculously funny cover of = the D man lounging in a hammock while two dangerously young and innocent = lasses feed him chocolate bon-bons by his side). My bro was there and = said "Holy Shit! They should put a warning label on that LP that it can = cause irrepairable insanity!!" (He's got the twisted sense of humor too). Then he went on laughing that it sounded like the power-supply was having = extreme fluctuations - that's D's style to mmmmMMMM , daaaaDDAAAAAA and I = had to laugh because he was right - sounds exactly like the organ was = being run by a hand-cranked generator and the guy was getting tired!!! Man, to imagine Mom's and Pop's everywhere groovin' to these sounds on the = console stereo sometimes boggles the mind! And there I sat writing bills acting like this was "normal" music - ah, = I'm lost I tell ya.......!! :-) - Nate =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) caper films Date: 05 Mar 2001 14:35:08 -0500 At 09:45 AM 3/5/01 -0600, Darrell Brogdon wrote: .> >From the mid-50s through the mid-60s, there's a wonderful sort of >sub-genre of moves like this that might be called "caper films". A >small group of experts come together to pull off an impossible >heist. "Seven Golden Men" is a good example of the genre. >Others include "Five Against the House", "The Asphalt Jungle", >"They Came to Rob Las Vegas" (rare soundtrack by George >Georges Garvarentz) , "Caper of the Golden Bulls" (music by Vic >Mizzy!), "Topkapi", etc. There are lots more. I think you're throwing too many dissimilar films into one bag there. "Asphalt Jungle" is more film noir than "caper film". I'd be willing to invent a term lke "heist film" in order to differentiate serious, sad, dark films like "Asphalt" from funny, happy films like "Oceans Eleven" (the novelization of which is one of my prized possessions). Or maybe it's the difference between the fifties and sixties sensibilities. I'd also differentiate between films where you know they're going to fail and films where you figure they'll probably succeed. I like them both but obviously I prefer the failures. Actually "Asphalt Jungle" is one of my favorite films of all time. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Lest we forget!....... Date: 05 Mar 2001 20:38:09 +0100 (CET) I come into an argument with my six year old nephew, his younger brother wanted me to play a record on my turntable, but before I had time to choos a record the 6 year old went: 'NOOO!!! Not that bad ooold music!' I exploded and I turned to him and said: 'YES! BECAUSE OLD MUSIC IS MUCH BETTER THAN NEW MUSIC!' I took it very personal, it wasnt a question of "he is just a kid". The young one isn't lost yet, he begs me to show him Flip the Frog cartoons on my dvd player. Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) Re: CD vs. Vinyl, Vol. 7 (aprox.) Date: 05 Mar 2001 11:45:59 -0800 This results in music that is proccessed and packaged like luncheon meat... stupid, kitch covers that focus on trendiness and demean the talent of the musicians who made the music... liner notes with cocktail recipes, but NO MENTION of the musicians and their careers... music with grossly unrealistic EQ settings, making acoustic instruments sound like buzzy synthesizers... older recordings muted and dulled by draconian digital filters just to remove all traces of a slight amount of unobtrusive surface noise... random collections of completely unrelated tracks selected for no other reason but novelty value, not musical value... deceptive packaging, repeating the same tracks previously released in another "best of" with just a sprinkling of new material... I agree with this matter. The first time I think I became irritated with CDs and reissues was with a Julie London CD. I'd been looking for another copy of Around Midnight. I found this compilation called Time for Love, which essentially stole the cover from Around Midnight, but make a selection of "best of" tracks. And then there were only two tracks from Around Midnight. Given how great Around Midnight is, there are so many songs to choose from, and two relatively uninteresting ones were put on the compilation. I thought, what kind of ridiculous audacity to reuse the Around Midnight cover for a compilation that largely ignores songs from the album it took its cover from? And THEN, when I finally found the Around Midnight album on CD, it was a two-for-one deal (a plus of course) but an IMPORT, making the matter even more ridiculous. It's almost like here in America, we can't appreciate our own musical heritage unless we do it with a sort of wink-wink nudge-nudge air, or package it and organize it to pander to an imagined audience who might get too bothered if the music is too edgy, or too "challenging" or too, I don't know what. I mean we already know Julie did a lot of soft, creamy songs, which is part of what makes her appealing, but she did a lot of sexy songs too, but maybe that was too much for the crowd Rhino imagined this "best of" for. Sure Rhino has done a lot of great things -- the Handmade series especially -- but they just love to cheese things out, like people won't get it unless it's kitschy enough, and that's really sad. Unlucky --- Mr. Unlucky presents Shoot To Kill, a weekly set of jazz, soundtrack music, Now Sound, and the occasional foray into international territory on Supersphere.com, Thursdays 1-2 p.m. (CST). Many past sets are archived for future listening pleasure. http://www.supersphere.com Get 250 color business cards for FREE! at Lycos Mail http://mail.lycos.com/freemail/vistaprint_index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mimi Mayer Subject: Re: (exotica) The disappearing record dealers Date: 05 Mar 2001 15:05:51 -0600 >>. At one >>record show I saw Free Design's Kites are Fun for $12 at one booth and for >>$25 at another. Condition didn't seem to effect pricing. Alan quipped: >Next time that happens, buy them both. Hee. Actually, I saw a guy about to buy the $25 Kites and told him about the $12 booth. A sucka move, I know. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: (exotica) Close Encounter of the Exotic Kind Date: 05 Mar 2001 14:55:27 -0600 Hi All, I just returned home after spending the week in LA. As I was waiting for my flight to depart yesterday, I decided to ankle on over to the Encounter Restaurant for lunch. I must say that this place is the very soul of retrohip; giant lava lamps, moonscape bas reliefs on the walls and lots of curvaceous stainless-steel furnishings. As an added bonus, the food and drink is outstanding; tasty and very nicely presented! I had an exquisitely unique MaiTai along with a truly delish spicy chicken salad that had obviously been created by a group of postmodern deconstructionist chefs. Next time I visit, I'll have to be sure to do it at night when the interior is lit up in all of it's blue and purple glory. I also made my usual stop at Oceanic Arts in Whittier (I grew up about 3 blocks away) and scored a couple of mugs. They were selling a set of those glass Disney World Polynesian Village mugs on consignment, so I picked up one of them along with a cheaper mug in the shape of a Hawaiian maiden in a lei and grass skirt. They were also selling Shag's new line of mugs which looked very...well...Shaggy. I had unfortunately missed the big Book of Tiki signing party held there a week or so previously. I had a very nice chat with co-owner Bob Van Oosting. Before I left, Bob gifted me with a handful of Tahitian swizzle sticks. I know that there are people here on the list that've been involved with the Encounter, either as DJs or in helping them set up their events. Does anyone know what tune they play in the elevator as you're whisked up into Jetsonsville? It was some sort of 101-stringish type tune with a wordless female vocal. Very apropos in setting the mood. -- Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Oceans Eleven 2001 Date: 05 Mar 2001 16:08:52 EST In a message dated 3/4/1 11:18:15 PM, rutks002@tc.umn.edu wrote: >George Clooney .... Danny Ocean >Brad Pitt .... Dusty Ryan always good to see fresh faces (yawn) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: CD vs. Vinyl, Vol. 7 (aprox.) Date: 05 Mar 2001 14:31:26 -0800 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of F. Cobalt > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 11:46 AM > matter even more ridiculous. It's almost like here in America, we > can't appreciate our own musical heritage unless we do it with a > sort of wink-wink nudge-nudge air See, that's what I don't like about the Ultra-Lounge series. I can actually say a lot of good things about the series, primarily because they were my introduction to the wonderful world of exotica (those and my parents' record collection). But no matter how handsome the packaging is (and the selections themselves are excellent), there's still something that rubs me the wrong way... Later, Ben http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara ICQ: 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: CD vs. Vinyl, Vol. 7 (aprox.) Date: 05 Mar 2001 17:51:57 -0500 >See, that's what I don't like about the Ultra-Lounge series. For me, it is the constriction of one label. Capitol didn't have Martin Denny, RCA didn't have Yma Sumac, etc. Variety is the Spice, Tomorrow is the Question! Ornette Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) Waring on my nerves... Date: 05 Mar 2001 18:15:48 -0500 Q:What is the law? A:Not to walk on all fours! Q:What is the second law? A: When you see a record that has Fred Waring on it and "Philly Dog", buy it! OK, so YOUR edition of "The Island of Dr. Moreau" is a tad different than mine, but sure as there's a silent CK in Bruce Cockburn, I bought a record that featured Fred Waring and Fred, Jr. on it and one side is instrumentals conducted or something by Fred Waring, Jr. and it isn't half bad; for a dollar, it's pretty good. The A side is so "Now Sound", it features a version of... ...Kites Are Fun!! Free Design of Four! Sir Arthur Conan Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Linds" Subject: (exotica) Three haircuts Date: 05 Mar 2001 15:40:24 -0800 Hi everyone. Thanks a ton for your Fakes and Frauds responses. Does anyone out there have a copy or dupe of The Three Haircuts doing You Are So rare To Me or Going Crazy. The Three Haircuts were Sid Ceaser, Car Reiner and Howie Morris. There's a good write up on them in the Hollywood HiFi book. Brian Linds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Lest we forget!....... Date: 06 Mar 2001 01:04:27 +0100 Magnus Sandberg schrieb: > I exploded and I turned to him and said: 'YES! BECAUSE OLD > MUSIC IS MUCH BETTER THAN NEW MUSIC!' You mean I could just take any record or CD, lock it away, and after a while it would automatically turn into good music? Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Fleixi-Discs Date: 05 Mar 2001 18:00:48 -0800 A thread on the 78 list notes that the last manufacturer of flexi discs, (the plastic sheets that were inserted in magazines) just discontinued manufacturing them. It's time to drink a toast to another fun format biting the dust. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: Re: (exotica) Fleixi-Discs Date: 05 Mar 2001 21:39:59 -0500 At 06:00 PM 3/5/01 -0800, Stephen Worth wrote: > >A thread on the 78 list notes that the last manufacturer of flexi >discs, (the plastic sheets that were inserted in magazines) just >discontinued manufacturing them. It's time to drink a toast to >another fun format biting the dust. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Actually, I was surprised they'd continued making them until now! Just for the historical record, here's the press release from Eva-Tone (http://www.evatone.com) : Eva-Tone Extra, Fall 2000 Soundsheet Product Line Retired At the end of the year 2000 Eva-Tone employees and customers bade a fond farewell to one of our oldest product lines - the Soundsheet. This farewell comes with mixed emotions as the Soundsheet was the major springboard to Eva-Tone's success and provided a unique contribution to education, publishing and marketing in the last half of the 20th Century.=20 The Soundsheet technology was also used to bring recorded books and magazines to the blind and visually impaired through the Library of Congress' National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped. We are proud of our association with this program that has endured for almost 40 years, and has prolonged the life of the Soundsheet. December 2000, The Library of Congress honored our 34 year volume of work in serving the Blind with the presentation of a special award of merit to Dick and Luckie Evans. Today, Eva-Tone is a thriving turnkey provider of Compact Discs, Cassettes, Multimedia, Printing, Packaging and Fulfillment. New technologies are the key to our continued growth.=20 But our company would not be here at all, if it weren't for this little thin plastic phonograph record. Though outmoded now, Eva-Tone Soundsheets provided a revolutionary way for people to use recorded sound 40 years ago and allowed Eva-Tone to flourish through change.=20 Other reasons to visit the site include: Take our new Virtual Tour, and see what Eva-Tone is all about. This virtual visit will give you an inside view of each of our operations. Get a feel for our size and capabilities. There are ten departments you can visit, from CD manufacturing to cassette operations, pressroom and fulfillment operations. Each one has been photographed in a 360-degree process that allows you to rotate your view in a full circle=85plus move up or down to get a more complete picture of the operation. Bet you'll find it more than interesting. We can show you how to add a virtual visit to your website, too. Interested in history? Our new visual Timeline shows where Eva-Tone came from and some milestones along the way. The company is 75 years old this year, with over 450 talented employees to serve you. Our founder Richard Evans would love for you to see what his dream has actually become. =3D=3D=3D=3D Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: robert blahut Subject: (exotica) casino royale Date: 05 Mar 2001 20:44:09 -0600 just wondering if anyone caught the screening of this fine example of the 60's movie yesterday afternoon on AMC? is there a soundtrack available, or just a cd comp of the main title theme? thanks, tablah # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist for Dial-ated Pupils: March 3, 2001 Date: 05 Mar 2001 22:12:52 -0500 At 12:40 AM 3/5/01, Daniel Shiman wrote: > > > >ARTIST SONG ALBUM FORMAT LABEL > > >PERCY FAITH Black Magic Woman Black Magic Woman LP Columbia >THE 3 RING CIRCUS Fantastic Voyage Groovin' on the Sunshine LP RCA >JOHNNY KEATING'S KOMBO Delilah Percussive Moods LP Phase 4 Good choices! Can you get this online? I don't really know what else to say about those cuts except that I own them and I like to see them here, especially the Three Ring Circus. Do you ever play the vocal cut "Lovin Machine"? That's the one I tend to put on compilations more than any other. Looks like the coolest town in America has three of the coolest members on this list (not to mention two of the... how many women are here anyway?). AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: CD vs. Vinyl, Vol. 7 (aprox.) Date: 05 Mar 2001 22:19:59 -0500 Oh boy, here's a new copy prevention system for audio CDs: http://www.stereophile.com/shownews.cgi?985 Silly rabbits, music is for big corporations. m.ace mace@ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Barbarella 2001 Date: 05 Mar 2001 10:03:24 -0600 Sharon Stone would be a very good choice Colleen ---- Begin Original Message ---- Sent: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 20:33:35 -0800 Yeah, I heard Clooney, Matt Damon, Brad Pitt, and possibly Julia Roberts. I would have thought maybe Sharon Stone. On Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:24:00 =A0 Colleen Pyles wrote: >Unlucky wrote: > >Steven Soderbergh is remaking "Oceans 11" right now as well, if >anyone didn't know. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0***************************** > >Does anyone know who is starring in it? =A0Did I hear a rumor tha Geoge >Clooney was in it? > > > Colleen >_____________________________________ > >Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com > Get 250 color business cards for FREE! at Lycos Mail http://mail.lycos.com/freemail/vistaprint_index.html ---- End Original Message ---- Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) Re: hmmm Date: 05 Mar 2001 10:10:54 -0600 Good! I thought the Fcc got your website too! Colleen ---- Begin Original Message ---- Sent: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 05:50:49 Dang Colleen I'm not having any problems getting to the Radio1 website, or my show's page. =A0Hmmm. =A0Maybe it's a web browser thing - I'm using = Internet Explorer. =A0Thanks for the tip though and for checking out (or trying = to at least) our humble station. see ya! Dan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ---- End Original Message ---- Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) casino royale Date: 05 Mar 2001 22:16:05 -0600 robert blahut wrote: > just wondering if anyone caught the screening of this fine example of > the 60's movie yesterday afternoon on AMC? Yeah, it's a hoot. Never fails to make me laugh and shake my head just at the sheer everything AND the kitchen sink wackiness of it. I keep telling my wife that she needs to get a machine gun installed in her bagpipes just like Ursula Andress. > is there a soundtrack available, or just a cd comp of the main title theme? Yes, there's a bonafide soundtrack out there. -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Different Neighborhoods =?iso-8859-1?B?oE9u?= Finland Date: 05 Mar 2001 10:37:02 -0600 magnus wrote: >But I guess we're becoming more alike all of > us, for good and bad, seeing the same dumb american movies and tv > serials, thank you very much. :( *********************** Magnus, don't apoligize for saying that! We have the dumbest TV shows in the world! (With the exception of some british sitcoms) No offense taken...believe me! Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) CD-Rs - Labels vs. Booklets Date: 05 Mar 2001 21:07:31 -0800 Moritz R wrote: > uuh... you don't write on the side of the CD that is read by the laser, do you? What did I do to get so needlessly flamed?!? ;-) Thanks alot, Mo! Jeeze folks I'm not a total idot... :-) The side read by the laser is the top, right? -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christine Karkow Subject: Re: (exotica) "Tikiville" Date: 05 Mar 2001 22:30:45 -0800 > > I think I'd rather watch SCTV's "Polynesiantown". speaking of SCTV-anyone know where I can get some videos of that show? I am especially interested in the ones where Andrea Martin (I think this is her name) is wearing leopard skin clothing and playing the organ, as well as the perfomances of Sammy Maudlin. Christine # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:=20Re:=20(exotica)=20Different=20Neighborhoods=20=A0On=20?= Date: 06 Mar 2001 08:58:44 +0100 (CET) citerar Colleen Pyles : > Magnus, don't apoligize for saying that! We have the dumbest TV > shows in the world! (With the exception of some british sitcoms) No > offense taken...believe me! > Allright Coolleen, but I still felt I went to far, and there are no point at all to complain over situations far away from the "exotica" issue. I am very glad to have the oppurtunity to be able to speak with people who is as entuastic over this as I am. And about "the real world" out there, actually I am lucky as long as they are not putting me in a concentration camp: This is hip hop. This is eurotechno. We will make you appreciate the beauty of it Magnus. We are gonna make you one of us. One of us one of us Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jschwart@voicenet.com Subject: (exotica) Bye bye flexi discs Date: 06 Mar 2001 03:00:38 Eva-tone claims: >Our founder Richard Evans would love for you to see what his dream has actually become. I hope the founder of this 75 year old company is alive and well for them to make such a claim -- because if not, I'm sure he's crying in his grave at what they did. And, haven't flexi discs, pardon me, "soundsheets," been around much longer than 40 years? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Barbarella 2001 Date: 06 Mar 2001 03:12:09 EST In a message dated 3/5/1 11:03:57 PM, colleen7@ireland.com wrote: >Sharon Stone would be a very good choice Colleen If you like a surefire blockbuster of an investment-returner, sure, but one thing about new movies....new actors are working very hard to get noticed and often eclipse the box-office suresells...ask me for an example? lemme think.......ah, the names don't get as easily remembered, but with a remake can't it be remarketed as, say, "Oceans 11 2001", then the proud history, retold along with previous footage from the vintage edition and a couple of compelling moments of engaging dialog from the newbies....??...Then again I don't work there nor do I invest in films (that I know of) JB/mutual fund innocence reigns at this address # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Different Neighborhoods ÊOn Finland Date: 06 Mar 2001 03:14:48 EST In a message dated 3/5/1 11:37:26 PM, colleen7@ireland.com wrote: >We have the dumbest TV shows in the world! quite likely, but name 3 dumb Scandanavian Sitcoms...Quickly!!...JB/point taken # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Different Neighborhoods ÊOn Finland Date: 06 Mar 2001 03:18:08 EST In a message dated 3/6/1 2:59:49 AM, m.sandberg@telia.com wrote: >We will make you appreciate the beauty of it Magnus. We >are gonna make you one of us. One of us one of us What you need is a good cup of coffee. What you need is a good cup of coffee. What you need is a good cup of coffee...JB/Stepfordized long ago ANNNND loving it! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) "Tikiville" Date: 06 Mar 2001 03:50:15 -0500 At 10:30 PM 3/5/01 -0800, Christine Karkow wrote: .>speaking of SCTV-anyone know where I can get some videos of that show? I >am especially interested in the ones where Andrea Martin (I think this is >her name) is wearing leopard skin clothing and playing the organ Tex and Edna Boyle? I've seen SCTV tapes at the video store but I doubt you could get a tape of nothing but commercials for Tex and Edna Boyle and their Organ Emporium. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:=20(exotica)=20Different=20Neighborhoods=20=CAOn=20Finla?= Date: 06 Mar 2001 10:05:37 +0100 (CET) citerar DJJimmyBee@aol.com: > What you need is a good cup of coffee. What you need is a good cup of > coffee. > What you need is a good cup of coffee...JB/Stepfordized long ago ANNNND > loving it! > I havent time, first I have to go to the gym, then work hard and a lot overtime, then to the gym again and then see the new exciting Will Smith movie. So you see, I have not time for coffee, coffee breaks are unnecessary. I only invest in things that gain me as an individual in the collective. Magnuz in block 123BX Long live Marx long live Jesus Long live Wood and Wei # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) casino royale Date: 06 Mar 2001 06:46:48 EST In a message dated 3/5/01 8:18:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, mjmarch@charter.net writes: << robert blahut wrote: > just wondering if anyone caught the screening of this fine example of > the 60's movie yesterday afternoon on AMC? Yeah, it's a hoot. Never fails to make me laugh and shake my head just at the sheer everything AND the kitchen sink wackiness of it. I keep telling my wife that she needs to get a machine gun installed in her bagpipes just like Ursula Andress. > is there a soundtrack available, or just a cd comp of the main title theme? Yes, there's a bonafide soundtrack out there. >> there is an OST on CD but the quality is kinda poor --- still worth having tho. tb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) CD-Rs - Labels vs. Booklets Date: 06 Mar 2001 06:49:02 EST In a message dated 3/5/01 9:08:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, kevin@kevdo.com writes: << Jeeze folks I'm not a total idot... :-) The side read by the laser is the top, right? -Kevin -- >> yes, and i do think that a label would help keep the "foil" from getting scratched. that is where the info is. i think kev was right in his assumption of such. tb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Different Neighborhoods =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A0On?= Finland Date: 06 Mar 2001 13:24:22 +0100 > citerar Colleen Pyles : > > > Magnus, don't apoligize for saying that! We have the dumbest TV > > shows in the world! (With the exception of some british sitcoms) No > > offense taken...believe me! National pride forces me to disagree: WE have the dumbest AND most boring TV shows in the world! "Einigkeit und Recht und Frei-i-heit..." Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) CD-Rs - Labels vs. Booklets Date: 06 Mar 2001 14:15:53 +0100 Rcbrooksod@aol.com schrieb: > > << Jeeze folks I'm not a total idot... :-) The side read by the laser is > the top, right? first I thought you are joking... > yes, and i do think that a label would help keep the "foil" from getting > scratched. that is where the info is. the CD is of course read on the side where the label NOT is. insofar a label cannot possibly protect this side of the CD. Maybe against extreme cases of sun rays from its backside or something... > i think kev was right in his assumption of such. I still think he was joking... > -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) CD-Rs - Labels vs. Booklets Date: 06 Mar 2001 08:29:01 EST In a message dated 3/6/01 5:14:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, moritz@derplan.com writes: << first I thought you are joking... > yes, and i do think that a label would help keep the "foil" from getting > scratched. that is where the info is. the CD is of course read on the side where the label NOT is. insofar a label cannot possibly protect this side of the CD. Maybe against extreme cases of sun rays from its backside or something... > i think kev was right in his assumption of such. I still think he was joking... >> i think this needs clarification. kevin and i are of the mind set that a custom made label placed on the "top" (or foil) side of the CD will keep the "foil" from being scratched off. i have had CDs where the foil side got a little nick taken out of it and it caused the cd not to play right. you can see light shine thru a kicked cd. in otherwords, the label would have to be scratched before the foil, thus protecting the foil. and let's make sure we know what i am talking about when i say "label". i am talking about a home made label that is placed on top of a CD-R. and i assumed that that is what kevin was talking about. did anyone else think that kevin and i ment differently? i am not sure how anybody thought we would but a label on the "bottom" side of a CD. it would make the CD un-readable. like kevin said "i'm (we're) not a total idiot." then again, with my half of idiot added to kevin's, we might approach a "total" idiot. tb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) Different Neighborhoods  On Finland Date: 06 Mar 2001 13:40:23 >National pride forces me to disagree: WE have the dumbest AND most boring >TV shows in the world! > >"Einigkeit und Recht und Frei-i-heit..." > >Mo Mo has a point. German TV is legendarily boring. We all have astonishingly dumb TV, we just also get all the american dumb TV and other people's only if it is good. Same with the movies, if a non-American film gets any promotion here it has already undergone a preselection. rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) Oh, it's BAD TV you want... Date: 06 Mar 2001 08:48:27 -0500 From the UK, there was: Chalk - What I saw of it did nothing for me. Kelly Monteith - Sort of unfair; we Yanks sent him to you, but YOU put him back on the air! In the US, there was: The Neighbors - a game show hosted by Regis Philbin and actually got housewives to participate in such games as "Who Spread the Rumor?" Here is a sample, "Here's the rumor, girls. If Kathleen talked in her sleep, she would whisper, "Raoul, Raoul...", who spread the rumor?" At this point, one had to guess which was telling the truth and which of the others were lying. It not only spawned a TV Guide article "Malice Doesn't Live Here Anymore", but it was the first time that I ever wrote to a network about the shoddy quality of a show. It got canceled. You're welcome. "What's It All About, World?" - A variety show that I heard was bad and I heard right. Dig my review here: http://us.imdb.com/Details?0063966#comment On an on-topic note, my local PBS station showed an hour and a half special about Dean Martin, which featured whole song clips. Not bad, eh? Don't get me started on Homeboys in Outer Space, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Blahut, Jr." Subject: Re: (exotica) "Tikiville" Date: 06 Mar 2001 08:35:53 -0600 At 03:50 AM 03/06/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >At 10:30 PM 3/5/01 -0800, Christine Karkow wrote: >.>speaking of SCTV-anyone know where I can get some videos of that show? I >>am especially interested in the ones where Andrea Martin (I think this is >>her name) is wearing leopard skin clothing and playing the organ > >Tex and Edna Boyle? >I've seen SCTV tapes at the video store but I doubt you could get a tape of >nothing but commercials for Tex and Edna Boyle and their Organ Emporium. i am not sure, but i have seen SCTV on after conan o'brien a couple of times (don't ask what i am doing up at that hour) perhaps you could check your local listings and set your vcr. i did see the count floyd program that starred dr tongue in the 3D remake of "midnight cowboy" followed by a panel discussion of the movie tablah # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) CD-Rs - Labels vs. Booklets Date: 06 Mar 2001 15:55:49 +0100 Hmmm... are you saying you scratched a CD so deeply from the back side (=label side) that it became unreadable? This didn't come to my mind of course... that's a severe damage. You are talking about making a hole into a CD. I still don't think, that the additional bit of paper from a stick-on label would help much to prevent the CD from that much violence. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) CD-Rs - Labels vs. Booklets Date: 06 Mar 2001 06:58:52 -0800 Moritz R wrote: > > Rcbrooksod@aol.com schrieb: > > > > > << Jeeze folks I'm not a total idot... :-) The side read by the laser is > > the top, right? > > first I thought you are joking... > > > yes, and i do think that a label would help keep the "foil" from getting > > scratched. that is where the info is. > > the CD is of course read on the side where the label NOT is. insofar a label cannot possibly protect this side of the CD. Maybe against extreme cases of sun rays from its backside or something... > > > i think kev was right in his assumption of such. > > I still think he was joking... Yes, I was... -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) CD-Rs - Labels vs. Booklets Date: 06 Mar 2001 15:02:51 +0000 Moritz R wrote: > > Hmmm... are you saying you scratched a CD so deeply from the back side (=label side) that it became unreadable? This didn't come to my mind of course... that's a severe damage. You are talking about making a hole into a CD. I still don't think, that the additional bit of paper from a stick-on label would help much to prevent the CD from that much violence. I know nothing about CDRs, but on standard CDs the layer with the information is much nearer the top (labelled) side, and hence can be scratched from the top. If you look at a CD from the side you can see the difference in the thickness of the plastic coating. Of course the unhelpful solution is to try not to scratch either side... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) CD-Rs - Labels vs. Booklets Date: 06 Mar 2001 16:44:02 +0100 (CET) citerar Michael Jemmeson : > Of course the unhelpful solution is to try not to scratch either >side... The truth is we handle our belongings very differently. Anyone who has ever searched for LPs on a fleamarket will agree. I care for them little things, and so they always sing for me! (without an argument!) Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) CD-Rs - Labels vs. Booklets Date: 06 Mar 2001 10:59:21 EST In a message dated 03/06/01 10:28:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, michael@moreover.com writes: << I know nothing about CDRs, but on standard CDs the layer with the information is much nearer the top (labelled) side, and hence can be scratched from the top. If you look at a CD from the side you can see the difference in the thickness of the plastic coating. >> and . . . <> i guess if we are getting technical this is what happens. the laser actually DOES read the top of the CD. it reads little indentations in the foil. so the laser shines up from the bottom (on most players) passes thru almost the entire thickness of the Cd and reads the indentations in the foil which is applied to the top of the CD. it does not take much to damage the foil at all. if you place a sticker on the top/foil side and then pull the sticker off, the foil will actually come off with it. if you drop anything sharp or pointed on the top/foil of the CD it will damage the foil. i don't think the foil is "embedded" in the CD at all. it is applied to the top surface and maybe lightly "coated" with some polymer to give it some durability. get you and old (and not exotica related) CD and try scratching the top with various methods and you will see what i mean. on this note btw, someone posted about a year and a half ago (i think it was Chuck in New Orleans) that he tried to remove one of those home made sticky labels and it pulled off nearly the entire foil. when people talk about repairing "scratches" on a CD they usually talking about polishing the bottom of the CD. they are just making the bottom smoother so laser can read better. if the foil layer is damaged there is not repairing the CD. the previous discussion a year or so ago pointed out correctly that everyone worries about the bottom side and neglects the care for the top/foil side. that is where the information is. you can even hold up a CD on it's side and see that almost all of the CD is clear and that the foil layer is right on the surface of the top side. does any of this sound familiar? tb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Collectors Date: 06 Mar 2001 16:47:47 +0100 >Okay, here's my question for You vinyl collectors out there. >Are you purchasing that LP for the cover or for the music inside? for the music only, and yet, if it comes without a cover, i feel an urge, i have to have it _complete_ even if the cover is awful to look at. i guess that's the collector in me... >And if it is out on CD, do you still want the LP? no. CDs are far easier to get, and most of the time (for Europeans!) cheaper than the original vinyl. Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) CD-Rs - Labels vs. Booklets Date: 06 Mar 2001 13:05:29 -0500 OK, I tormented a cheap CD-R "coaster". Results: Scratched (using moderate pressure) on top with fingernail. No damage. Scratched with back end of wooden paintbrush. No damage. Scratched with dull tip of a metal nail. No damage. Slashed with a razor blade. Damage. Foil top peels right off. Easily. Kind of contradictory. It seems to be very fragile, but you have to work to exploit the fragility. There really shouldn't be a problem if you treat your discs sensibly. But if you really want to get heavy duty, check out the BASF CD-R Master blanks, with a "hardened, white ceramic" top. http://www.emtec-group.com/Professionals/Studio/Audio/Cd-R_Master/ --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Shiman" Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist for Dial-ated Pupils: March 3, 2001 Date: 06 Mar 2001 18:15:44 > >PERCY FAITH Black Magic Woman Black Magic Woman LP Columbia > >THE 3 RING CIRCUS Fantastic Voyage Groovin' on the Sunshine LP RCA > >JOHNNY KEATING'S KOMBO Delilah Percussive Moods LP Phase 4 > >Good choices! >Can you get this online? >I don't really know what else to say about those cuts except that I own >them and I like to see them here, especially the Three Ring Circus. >Do you ever play the vocal cut "Lovin Machine"? That's the one I tend to >put on compilations more than any other. Thanks for the nice words Alan - yeah that 3 Ring Circus LP is fascinating, and "Lovin' Machine" is probably my next favorite cut after "Fantastic Voyage". But what an odd album! - and so few credits. Another aging record producer's vague idea of what it was to turn-on and get psychedelic, I suppose. I'm not sure I've seen the album mentioned here before - seems like it would especially appeal to the now-sound and sunshine-pop people on the list. -Dan Hear! "Dial-ated Pupils" -- every Saturday 4-6 pm CST exclusively at www.radio1austin.com. I will lead you safely through the perilous dark jungles of Austin's scratchiest record collection. Exotic jazz. Obscure Latin, Afro, and Eastern grooves. Easy listening arcana. Bring your bug spray. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Has anyone used spun.com? Date: 06 Mar 2001 13:24:24 -0500 http://www.spun.com/music/browse-alpha.jsp?topgenre=Easy+Listening&subgenre=1640 I've just stumbled across this cd-exchange site. Has anyone used them? Worth a try or run for the hills? lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) CD-Rs - Labels vs. Booklets Date: 06 Mar 2001 13:44:39 EST Actually, if you get a deep enough scratch on the label side of the CD (it'll take more than just fingerprints to do it), you'll end up with a nice little "sticking" sound coming out of your speakers. Of course, there are some CDs that actually end up sounding better this way... -DavidH < I know nothing about CDRs, but on standard CDs the layer with the information is much nearer the top (labelled) side, and hence can be scratched from the top. If you look at a CD from the side you can see the difference in the thickness of the plastic coating. >> and . . . <> i guess if we are getting technical this is what happens. the laser actually DOES read the top of the CD. it reads little indentations in the foil. so the laser shines up from the bottom (on most players) passes thru almost the entire thickness of the Cd and reads the indentations in the foil which is applied to the top of the CD. it does not take much to damage the foil at all. if you place a sticker on the top/foil side and then pull the sticker off, the foil will actually come off with it. if you drop anything sharp or pointed on the top/foil of the CD it will damage the foil. i don't think the foil is "embedded" in the CD at all. it is applied to the top surface and maybe lightly "coated" with some polymer to give it some durability. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) CD-Rs - Labels vs. Booklets Date: 06 Mar 2001 20:33:15 +0100 Rcbrooksod@aol.com schrieb: > i don't think the foil is "embedded" in the CD at all. it is applied to the > top surface and maybe lightly "coated" with some polymer to give it some > durability. I hate to admit it, but you seem to be right. I never noticed that. I always thought that the foil is in the middle of the CD body. The surfaces even seem to differ in material. when you try to scratch into them with a fingernail, the top surface seems to be softer, like clear finish, as you say. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Freddy Date: 06 Mar 2001 11:44:48 -0800 (PST) Anyone familiar with a German pop singer from the 60s called "Freddy"? I figured there might be some amusement value: anglicized name being responsive to the British pop explosion... and with just one name maybe a melding of Heino and Oliver? Or is he simply bad? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Freddy Quinn Date: 06 Mar 2001 21:15:32 +0100 Ben Waugh schrieb: > Anyone familiar with a German pop singer from the 60s > called "Freddy"? I figured there might be some > amusement value: anglicized name being responsive to > the British pop explosion... and with just one name > maybe a melding of Heino and Oliver? > > Or is he simply bad? yes. no amusement value whatsoever. pop-singer? hmm... sang sailor shanties mostly. sounds like a softie version of Heino. non-outed gay from Hamburg. tragic: got 50$ for his million seller hit "Junge komm bald wieder", because he was just hired as a "studio singer". was in N.Y.C. for one year in 196x and thinks he is a world star since. peinlich! Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Freddy Quinn Date: 06 Mar 2001 12:30:55 -0800 (PST) Bummer. Maybe I can exchange him for the Richard Anthony I left behind. "Fich le Camp, Jack", (and don't you better not come back no more) BW --- Moritz R wrote: > yes. no amusement value whatsoever. pop-singer? > hmm... sang sailor shanties mostly. sounds like a > softie version of Heino. non-outed gay from Hamburg. > tragic: got 50$ for his million seller hit "Junge > komm bald wieder", because he was just hired as a > "studio singer". was in N.Y.C. for one year in 196x > and thinks he is a world star since. peinlich! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) the mysterious moai Date: 06 Mar 2001 15:39:44 -0500 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1119290339 All you Easter Island "heads" should check out the above URL. Be sure to scroll to the bottom. lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) n-pst-r alternatives Date: 06 Mar 2001 16:21:37 -0500 Someone asked about N-pst-r alternatives. Here's a batch of download and/or comment links. Some are fresh, some are a little old. http://www.zeropaid.com/ http://download.cnet.com/downloads/1,10150,0-10001-103-0-1-7,00.html?tag=srch&qt=napalt&cn=&ca=10001&SWlink=false?tag=srch1 http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/prespick/0301/index.html http://dailymp3.com/otherutil1.shtml http://www.beachbrowser.com/Archives/eVoid/July-2000/Napster-Alternatives.htm http://www.indiatimes.com/infotech/downloads/napster.html http://music.neopages.com/napster/alternatives.shtml http://www.msnbc.com/news/471197.asp?0nm=B27F&cp1=1 Actually, the latest thing the last couple of days is utilities for encrypting filenames! I've never even used Napster, but that new copy protection scheme for audio CDs rather annoys me. --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Flexis/Cardboard Discs Date: 06 Mar 2001 16:24:13 EST Can't say that I was a big flexi fan myself (the frigging things always became unplayably bent too easily, and Eva-Tone was notorious for refusing to press your record if it had "objectable" lyrics, as a few punk bands will testify) though it's always sad to hear of yet another format biting the dust. Are there any European/Asian companies still producing them? What I really want to know (and chances are you folks already discussed this in detail awhile ago) is who was responsible for pressing those CARDBOARD discs that used to appear on the back of cereal boxes, etc.? Were they just a flexi on top of a round piece of cardboard? (I found an Archies one a long time ago, but I ended up offering it as a premium during my station's fundraiser and another DJ nabbed it) -DavidH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) CD-Rs - Labels vs. Booklets Date: 06 Mar 2001 17:02:45 EST In a message dated 03/06/01 2:36:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, moritz@derplan.com writes: << I hate to admit it, but you seem to be right. I never noticed that. I always thought that the foil is in the middle of the CD body. The surfaces even seem to differ in material. when you try to scratch into them with a fingernail, the top surface seems to be softer, like clear finish, as you say. Mo >> don't feel bad that you had not noticed it. that was the common comment when we discussed this a year or so ago. so now remember to pay more attention to the care of the top of the cd as well as the bottom. tb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Some fill-ups in my exotica collection Date: 06 Mar 2001 23:09:20 +0100 (CET) Recieved some essential albums today, First "Afro Cuban influence" by Shorty Rogers, listen to it now and it seems as terrific as his "S R meets Tarzan" LP. It is one of those albums I have nearly bought a few times before but something other has been choosen in the last minute. I am glad I have it now. "Surfers Paradise" by Alex Keack, an album on Crown (Stereo CST 315), a little surface noise but not too bad. Very jazzy exotica, quite good, and probably own material. With Crown you seldom get any info of that sort. "Whistling on the beach of Waikiki" Muzzy Marcellino, Stereo Coral (CRL 757441). Terrific and beautiful, as I imagined, this is my second Marcellino LP i get. More swinging exotica comes from "JUN'GALA" Marty Wilson and his orchestra. (mono WB 1326) I am very fond of his kind of exotica, makes me feel really good. The girl on the cover looks like a girl I had a crush on some years ago. Last but not least, "Themes from horror movies" Dick Jacobs and his orchestra, Coral stereo (CRL 757240) an album I was totally unaware of until some weeks ago, found it on ebay, a really beat up copy but I had to have it as a start anyway, and it was really good, especially the track picked from "The incredible shrinking man". Bob MacFadden does the narration between tracks, speaks like Bela Lugosi and other horror icons, absurd background B&W image (just the way i like em) of a creature with three eyes and two tails. Tracks picked from "Son of Dracula", "this Island Earth", "Creature from the black lagoon" etc. Highly recommended if you enjoy that sort of neglected music. So why the h**l do I complain at all ;) If I lived in the fifties I bet you 1 million dollar that I had not found any of these records for sale, nor would I have had the possibility to watch the films due to swedens censorship policies back then. Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Old=Good New=Bad Date: 06 Mar 2001 14:32:05 -0800 >Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 01:04:27 +0100 >From: Moritz R >Subject: Re: (exotica) Lest we forget!....... > >Magnus Sandberg schrieb: > >> I exploded and I turned to him and said: 'YES! BECAUSE OLD >> MUSIC IS MUCH BETTER THAN NEW MUSIC!' > >You mean I could just take any record or CD, lock it away, and after a >while it would automatically turn into good music? Fifty years ago, the answer would have been yes. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicola Battista Subject: (exotica) Akira Ifukube Italian MP3 (?!?) Date: 06 Mar 2001 23:59:21 +0100 http://www.mp3.com/akiraifukube years ago there was a concert by the E.Chiti Orchestra performing Godzilla music by Ifukube. It all appeared on a now deleted cd by Film Music Art Studio. Some of this material will be made available for streaming and/or downloading, and there are also 2 spoken workd tracks with the composer (appearing on video from Japan) thanking the musicians, the people and Roberto Zamori who had organized the performance. I will post updates about this page (as usual); for now we have free mp3 download of the Ifukube message in Italian, some minimal info on filmography/discography, and links to 3 Godzilla compilations from Emusic. have fun :) Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista http://www.mp3.com/djbatman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Flexidiscs Date: 06 Mar 2001 17:14:11 -0800 >Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 03:00:38 >From: jschwart@voicenet.com >Subject: (exotica) Bye bye flexi discs > >And, haven't flexi discs, pardon me, "soundsheets," been around much longer >than 40 years? There was a similar thing back in the thirties called "Hit of the Week" records. Those were printed on cardboard. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HEDCANDY@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Where to find Exotica clip-art for sale Date: 06 Mar 2001 20:13:50 EST Hello, Anyone have a line on some affordable Retro / Exotica clip art for sale? I teach a high school commercial arts class and am looking for something that has some images or some cool retro fonts. Any suggestions? Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Freddy Quinn Date: 06 Mar 2001 21:15:32 +0100 Ben Waugh schrieb: > Anyone familiar with a German pop singer from the 60s > called "Freddy"? I figured there might be some > amusement value: anglicized name being responsive to > the British pop explosion... and with just one name > maybe a melding of Heino and Oliver? > > Or is he simply bad? yes. no amusement value whatsoever. pop-singer? hmm... sang sailor shanties mostly. sounds like a softie version of Heino. non-outed gay from Hamburg. tragic: got 50$ for his million seller hit "Junge komm bald wieder", because he was just hired as a "studio singer". was in N.Y.C. for one year in 196x and thinks he is a world star since. peinlich! Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Where to find Exotica clip-art for sale Date: 06 Mar 2001 20:34:11 -0500 on 3/6/01 8:13 PM, HEDCANDY@aol.com at HEDCANDY@aol.com wrote: > Anyone have a line on some affordable Retro / Exotica clip art for sale? I > teach a high school commercial arts class and am looking for something that > has some images or some cool retro fonts. Any suggestions? check out the great stuff from House Industries - and don't miss their groovy magazine as well. Tiki fonts, bowling fonts, outer space fonts, Las Vegas signs (coming shortly, with music by yrs trly),groovy Chalet fonts and silhouettes, and loads more all with clip art, vector graphics and more. They're not free but they're reasonably priced and you can download some from the site. www.houseindustries.com br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: (exotica) Tikiapolis Date: 06 Mar 2001 21:01:24 -0600 Alohaderci, Once again, I find myself on the road. This time I'm only going a 100 miles or so down the road to Minneapolis. I've been looking around on the 'Web, but I can't seem to locate much there in the way of Exotica now that King Kini's Club Velvet appears to have shut down permanently. So my question to y'all is, where can a fella go to get a decent umbrella drink and hang out in a loud Hawaiian shirt while staying in MaryTylerMooreLand these days? Mahalo in Advance, -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (exotica) Different Neighborhoods On Finland Date: 06 Mar 2001 21:56:24 -0500 Colleen wrote: > Magnus, don't apoligize for saying that! We have the dumbest TV > shows in the world! (With the exception of some british sitcoms) No > offense taken...believe me! Yours may be dumb but ours are downright embarrasing. You ought to see the stuff they pass off here to make the Canadian content quota! I challenge you to watch our Genie? awards show(see I can't even remember the name!!!) for films. As a Canadian I don't know who hosts the thing or most of the time any of the films they nominate (They missed out on a gem with Alan's film but that's their loss). And they make the French people (who produce the majority of anything interesting anyway) speak in English. It hightly patronizing and as everything else in this country, thoroughly Toronto-centric. The one thing I can say is we seem to have a very strong and respectable East Coast music culture. Its not to my tasted but at least it doen't attempt to copy its American counterpart for a change! I'm sure everyone has a similar story in their respective countreies but the question is what's the lesser of the two evils!!! Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (exotica) The disappearing record dealers Date: 06 Mar 2001 22:23:54 -0500 m ace wrote: > >As a shameless flea/thrift bottom-feeder, I would happily continue to > >ignore eBay and stick with the fleas. But the problem is -- and maybe (I > >hope) this is only a regional thing -- the flea market record dealers are > >disappearing! -m.ace > I haven't noticed that where I live. The thing about ebay is, something > worth a dollar or two isn't really worth paying the listing fee for. Well I have here and I'm trying to understand why myself. Consider this though... who is buying the stuff? You cannot easily buy a turntable and records are for the most part no longer produced. The market for them is very specialized, from DJs to old(er) collectors. They take up a lot of space in stores and they don't move quickly as the bad ones seem to stay. I used to go weekly to my favourite store only so I could catch the new arrivals before they were filed and I had to look through whole bins of the same records again. But I first noticed this about 7 or 8 years back when LPs stopped being produced commercialy and most stores stopped carrying vinyl, either new or used. I then went on a major vinyl binge thinking I may never get another chance at records that I knew would never see the light of reissue. What kept the spurt going was all these new exotica records I would have never looked for back then, and which were being unearthed from basements and radio stations and appearing in the right record stores whose owners knew how and what to buy. Well now the few stores that stuck with vinyl are hugely overstocked with records that either aren't good, overpriced, or in bad condition and I don't think they're buying at the same rate. Oh sure you can find records for $50-$100 at places like Dusty Grrooves or other online stores, but my rule of thumb is I'd pay as much for an LP as I would for a comparable CD reissue (ie up to CDN$25) but almost never more. But these LPs (at these prices) just don't seem to be appearing anymore and Montreal is among the best places I've ever visited to find the stuff so that's why I worry. What does the future hold? Well because of the sheer volume of LPs made and the fact that many things exist in no other form, there will be a market of sorts for a long time to come, unlike say 8 tracks which were never an "exclusive" medium. But I do worry as private release cassettes, a format which was the choice for any DIY artist back in the 70's as an exclusive format, are nearly impossible to find and have been for some time. If you ask me Ebay and other like businesses is the way this will all go as the cost/profit ratio of running a vinyl stocked record store worsens. You just gave to see the mounds of vinyl in the thrift stores, most of it going begging even there, to know this won't go on forever. Maybe its just because I haven't bought a record of any interest in many months, but I do sense the times are changing and we're in for a dry spell that we may not come out of. That last note on the end of flexi-disc production drives another nail into the coffin if you ask me... Brian (How can you tell its winter here!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Wages Subject: Re: (exotica) The Polynesians Date: 07 Mar 2001 01:48:06 -0500 > Does anyone have additional information about this band? > I have listed the lps that I have and am wondering if there are > others or other information besides the actual records I also have "Hawaiian Wedding Song" (Crown CST-535) which has the generic "Music For Every Mood" back. This one has a great cover with tapa print, fishnet floats, and a chick with fishnet draped over her shoulder. Looking at the track list, I'm gonna guess it's mostly songs pulled from other Polynesians LPs. Hawaiian Wedding Song Island Moon Lehua Hawaiian War Chant Rose Lani Isle Of Golden Dreams Orchid Lei My Yellow Ginger Lei At The Barefoot Bar Land Of Flower # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Wages Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist for Dial-ated Pupils: March 3, 2001 Date: 07 Mar 2001 02:07:23 -0500 > KAIWAZA Voodoo Moon Hawaiian Holiday LP Wyncote I included this one on an Exotica CD-R a made awhile back. Good track. It turns out that this is actually Ted Auletta's "Voodoo Moon". Wyncote borrowed it from Auletta's "Exotica" LP on Cameo. Paul W # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: (exotica) music for children's events Date: 07 Mar 2001 16:49:08 +0800 hi all, well, i finally broke down and picked up that disc that looked just too interesting to pass up(plus i could get a lisa ono disc at a cheaper price by buying them together. that disc "bossa carioca" is very very good by the way) - "music for children's events". this is a japanese disc released on the king record company(KICGG-8158). while i was picking this up i saw a disc put out by the same company called "music for athletic events" that i may go back and pick up as well. according to the obi strip in this series are also discs called "travel english" and "everyday english" hmmm. the music mainly sounds like stuff from the 50s and 60s. some of it being rather interesting. makes me think of mary poppins for some reason(though i suspect if you went into it expecting it to sound like that you would be disappointed). both children and adults singing. and thankfully the kids singing sound like real kids. not like some producers idea of what a kid should sound like. i hate it when they make kids sing like they are 3 years old when they are not. i couldn't find any dates for when the songs were released except for one date for 1908 but i suspect that is the year that track may of been written but not this recording of it. one song, and it may be the 1908 track has piano in it that sounds like its out of some old western saloon or maybe made to accompany an old silent movie. the booklet has illustrations teaching kids to do "the swim"(that is what the name of that dance is isn't it?) and what appears to be some game elementary school kids play in pairs where one person tries to hit your palm without you grabbing(catching) their hands. there are two christmas songs included one with vocals and one without. the only english song credits i see are the following: "l. banfi - l. martelli" and "s. de pasquale(depsa)". does anyone have any ideas as to who they may be? if anyone has any info about this disc i would like to hear about it. while i was picking this up i saw some lalo schifrin disc called "black widow" i think. it appeared to be some old ost. but then i saw the word remix so i wasn't sure what it was. does anyone have this? i seem to recall a vague discussion of this before. william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) The Lurk of Love is in My Guise Date: 07 Mar 2001 06:04:46 -0600 Magnus--Thanks for the Don Ralke listing. I don't edit the discographies based on what I think rates as "exotica"--I list the records I know about. I use any source I can to get. And I'll put in another plug for "Two Sides of Fred Waring." Not only does it have "Kites are Fun," it also has a decent version of "Walk On By" (where the Pennsylvanians chant, "Walk, walk, walk on by; walk, walk, walk on by") and my favorite cut, "Rapido" (where they rise up and down the scale like someone on a pogo stick, and sing "My heart beats [rapid bongo beats] rapido." Everytime I here it, my heart beats [rapid bongo beats] rapido. Now ... every other Fred Waring album I've ever seen sucks, though. Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Lest we forget!....... Date: 07 Mar 2001 08:45:16 -0500 (Trying to send this again - it looks like I can "reply" and have my mail = posted, but I can't send out an "original" or "cold" letter directly to = "Exotica." Weird....) Had a laugh the other night. I put on Lenny Dee "Dee-Licious" (with that ridiculously funny cover of = the D man lounging in a hammock while two dangerously young and innocent = lasses feed him chocolate bon-bons by his side). My bro was there and = said "Holy Shit! They should put a warning label on that LP that it can = cause irrepairable insanity!!" (He's got the twisted sense of humor too). Then he went on laughing that it sounded like the power-supply was having = extreme fluctuations - that's D's style to mmmmMMMM , daaaaDDAAAAAA and I = had to laugh because he was right - sounds exactly like the organ was = being run by a hand-cranked generator and the guy was getting tired!!! Man, to imagine Mom's and Pop's everywhere groovin' to these sounds on the = console stereo sometimes boggles the mind! And there I sat writing bills acting like this was "normal" music - ah, = I'm lost I tell ya.......!! :-) - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) Different Neighborhoods On Finland Date: 07 Mar 2001 07:49:03 -0600 Brian wrote: > Yours may be dumb but ours are downright embarrasing. You ought to see the > stuff they pass off here to make the Canadian content quota! Hmm, what about Lexx? It's one of the weirdest and most interesting shows that I can think of at the moment, and it's a joint Canadian-German production filmed in Nova Scotia. It's a hell of a lot better than just about anything on American television at the moment. Any show that contains dialogue like, "The dead do not poo" and features a horny robot head on a go-kart deserves high praise in my view. Damn, now I have the theme song stuck in my head: "Vaiyo A-O, jerhume Brunnen-G!" -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Different Neighborhoods =?iso-8859-1?B?yk9u?= Finland Date: 06 Mar 2001 21:40:08 -0600 JB wrote: >quite likely, but name 3 dumb Scandanavian Sitcoms...Quickly!!... ******* The US, though, is very good at ripping off other sitcoms (and game shows) and marketing them as their own, so who knows, maybe Will and Grace was Scandinavian? Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) E-Bay Dealers(again): "JAGCAR" Date: 07 Mar 2001 08:22:25 -0800 (PST) Speaking of E-Bay dealers. I recently won a copy Zodiac Cosmic Sounds. I immediately paid the US seller, who charged (jagcar)$5 in postage. The item took a month to arrive. She shipped it in a flimsy cardboard postal box. She did not so much as wrap it in a newspaper. The cover stuck to the adhesive stripping that seals the envelope (meant for shipping documents in, not fragile items)and was destroyed removing the item from the box. Her auction did mention that the cover "has some wear" - I can't tell, because the USPS box is wearing most of it. Despite claims of 100%* 30 DAY SATISFACTION GUARANTEE" the seller has not responded to e-mail. This is the only problem I have had with (a few) E-Bay dealers: no sense of basic decency. Apologies for the gripe, BW __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Eilert=20Pilarm=20hits=20G=E4vle?= Date: 07 Mar 2001 18:33:04 +0100 (CET) The swedish elvis impersonator is in town! Tomorrow there will be concert at "The Heartbreak Hotel". I will post a review in a couple of days. Magnus -----------Go Buzz!------------ http://www.bellybongo.com/gobuzz/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) The Lurk of Love is in My Guise Date: 07 Mar 2001 13:11:30 EST In a message dated 03/07/01 7:03:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, spaceagepop@earthlink.net writes: << Now ... every other Fred Waring album I've ever seen sucks, though. >> the christmas one has that neat, kind of hokey, home town america feel. i like it. the ultra lounge actually did a spliced version of this on Christmas Cocktails Vol 1. which is one of my top ten fav Christmas songs. tb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Zodiac Cosmic Sounds Date: 07 Mar 2001 14:31:45 +0100 Colleen had asked if the Zodiac Cosmic Sounds was reissued... it was (unofficially) re-released on limited heavy vinyl in 1999, but i never came across it, and have no idea were to look for it. try http://www.gemm.com Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: CD-Rs - Labels vs. Booklets Date: 07 Mar 2001 16:40:13 +0100 Kevin Crossman wrote: >I was under the impression that a label on the CD is a good thing for >the CD-R, since the top surface is delicate. Do I have this wrong? no, you're right. the top surface is the most delicate side of a CD (R) Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Different Neighborhoods On Finland Date: 07 Mar 2001 11:11:13 -0800 (PST) Yes. And, in my opinion, only because Strangers with Candy and Freaks and Geeks proved inadequate fodder. The TV guide and the NYT Best Seller list look remarkably alike. ------------------------ I'm half tongue-in-cheek about about the formative influence of ubiquitous entertainment media. But I'm half serious as well. I don't believe that watching Segal movies is harmful to anything more than your wallet and vocabulary: but the atmosphere is radiant with deformed expressions of human potential. With regard to the awful event that occured in the California high school the other day: assuming it's true that we interpret the new, the alien, the random, the unprecedented by the measure of what we already know, we are audience to the coming of age of a new world: students involved described the experience as though it had a sort of cinematic texture to it: gore resembled "fake blood capsules", the gunfire did not sound like real gunfire: movie gunfire. Victims and shooter are in the same loop. too much caffeine again, bw --- Matt Marchese wrote: > Hmm, what about Lexx? It's one of the weirdest and > most interesting shows that I > can think of at the moment, and it's a joint > Canadian-German production filmed > in Nova Scotia. It's a hell of a lot better than > just about anything on American > television at the moment. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mkg@calle22.com Subject: (exotica) Fotonovelas Date: 07 Mar 2001 12:04:05 -0800 Well... Don't know if this will be of interest to anyone here... a friend has just scanned and posted in his yahoo broiefcase some scans of Mexican Fotonovelas... the first two pages are quite 'exotica-influenced', and then there is El Santo fighting against one of those wooden dolls usually used by artists to learn how to draw. Nice thing to see... The address is http://y42.briefcase.yahoo.com/andrescaicedo Bye, Manuel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) the sad sad world of popular media Date: 07 Mar 2001 16:03:42 -0500 At 07:49 AM 3/7/01 -0600, Matt Marchese wrote: > >Brian wrote: > >> Yours may be dumb but ours are downright embarrasing. You ought to see the >> stuff they pass off here to make the Canadian content quota! > >Hmm, what about Lexx? Yeah Lexx can grow on you. I ignored it for a long time and then I noticed that some friends of mine had become involved and... it's definitely "unique". This is a silly silly discussion though. Almost all TV and movies stink. No matter where they originate. And things are getting worse. The reason? The people in charge. The ones who say yes or no. They're changing. They're less and less likely to be wannabe producers, writers and directors. More and more they're coming from non-filmmaking backgrounds. Let me tell you a story. A friend of mine, out of desperation, took one of those expensive courses where they teach you digital editing. Most of the kids in his class had no background in film. They weren't even fans of film. And they weren't all that curious. Nonetheless they wanted to be editors. One day the head of the "department" took over their class and showed them a film which supposedly would demonstrate "slow editing". The film was Wim Wenders "Wings of Desire". At one point, one of the students asked "When was this film made?" Nobody seemed to know (except my friend but he shut up). The teacher, the head of the media arts department, scratched her head and said "I don't know but it must be the forties, judging from the black and white and all..." That's so mind boggling on so many levels. My first reaction after hearing the story and lifting my jaw from the table was "Either Peter Falk had a father who looked just like him or he's remarkably well preserved!" I tell that story to illustrate the fact that more and more people are entering the film and television business with no love or knowledge of the media. They just want to get a good job in the wonderful world of television production and they don't really care about anything else. I could tell more stories. When I read "Catch 22" and it never occurred to me that someday, I would have stories from my own life that rivalled anything in that book. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Off Topic - email snafu Date: 07 Mar 2001 16:37:34 -0500 For a change, an email problem that doesn't involve xmission. My email system lunched out last night/earlier today, so if you sent me an off-list message and I didn't reply, it's because I didn't receive it (checked the on-list action via the web archive). Pardon me. Back to your regular programming. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com (if you like ukes, a nice pic of my Harmony baritone is now brightening the index page) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: Re: (exotica) Some fill-ups in my exotica collection Date: 07 Mar 2001 20:52:54 -0800 Magnus scored: <<"Whistling on the beach of Waikiki" Muzzy Marcellino, Stereo Coral (CRL 757441). Terrific and beautiful, as I imagined, this is my second Marcellino LP...>> Nice one Magnus! All you exotica lovers won't be disappointed with this one at all, it's wonderful. All three of his whistling LP's are great. "Birds of a Feather" and (Art Linkletter's) "House Party Music" time are the others. Fred Lowery made more records, but as far as his LP's go, really only "Whistle A Happy Tune" and "Walking Along Kicking The Leaves" are pop in nature. His other LPs are religious and not as much fun. the Anita Kerr singers do some vocals on the former and there is some beautiful hawaiian guitar on the later. Lot's of great Fred Lowery Columbia 78's - the 40's were his heyday - the ones where he teams with vocalist Dorothy Rae are my favorites. Another great pop whistling record is by Art Coates, "Whistling For the Birds". a couple of my favorite tracks, Bubbles In The Wine and Yellow Bird will surely bring a smile to the face of the most skeptical of whistling recordings. Then there is Ralph Platt (whose whistling is much more bird like) and his buddy Lorin Whitney on pipe organ. They made a bunch of records - all sound about the same. Now we are getting into the hard core sacred stereo stuff on WORD and it's all pretty grim. But I like it :) Whitney made lots of religious records on his own and when paired with steel guitarist Bud Tutmarc, the results are quite good - especially the Hawaiian themed ones. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: (exotica) Current Obsessions... Date: 07 Mar 2001 21:03:50 -0800 ...Brazil, Tico-Tico, and Nola. I never could stand more than two versions of Caravan in succession, but the afformentioned melodies seem to benefit from being juxtaposed with other intrepretations of themselves. Not that these are definitive versions, but I tend to favor the following: Brazil - Esquivel. It's just so...BIG. Tico Tico - Charlie Parker. Never heard it so ernestly played. Nola - Billy Williams. How cool is HE? ticotico.com has been registered - Damn! Ron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) Tiki & Koala Bar Date: 08 Mar 2001 14:48:39 +0100 (MET) at: http://www.krypton1.com/index40.html -- visit the ***Space Escapade*** Exotic Club Pop Entertainment with Guests and the Lemon Squeezer Sound System at the Atomic Cafe, Neuturmstr. 5, Munich, every Tuesday Night http://www.atomic.de/ Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) oodly, oodly Date: 08 Mar 2001 06:55:24 -0800 (PST) Anyone know where I can get a copy of the OST from "Chuck and Buck"? I need to tape that wonderful godawful song "Freedom of the Heart". Seems not to be available from the usual online vendors. Oodly, oodly, oodly, oodly, oodly, oodly, fun, fun, fun...yeah! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: Re: (exotica) oodly, oodly Date: 08 Mar 2001 07:39:26 -0800 Ha! Glad to my wife and I weren't the only ones to enjoy this delightfully twisted little film. We caught it when it just came out and were not at all prepared for the direction it suddenly took. I can't remember if he is Chuck or Buck, but the guy always sucking on the lollypops wrote and even briefly appeared in episodes of the excellent and short lived TV series "Freaks and Geeks". I've looked for the soundtrack ever since the day we saw the movie which was months ago and no luck. :( # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) oodly, oodly Date: 08 Mar 2001 08:02:59 -0800 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of basic hip > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 7:39 AM > I can't remember if he is Chuck or Buck, but the guy always sucking on the > lollypops wrote and even briefly appeared in episodes of the excellent and > short lived TV series "Freaks and Geeks". And the guy who plays Chuck (or Buck) and Chuck's (or Buck's) neighbor who couldn't act are brothers in real life, and are the writers-directors of "American Pie." Later, Ben http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara ICQ: 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) oodly, oodly Date: 08 Mar 2001 08:03:25 -0800 (PST) Yes, I loved it. At first I thougt it was going to be some overdone Peter-Pan syndrome stalker film. But I found it to sweet, warped, blackly funny - and, well, exotic, given the usual fare. Miguel Marteta, who directed C&B, directed Freaks and Geeks (the cerebrally functional person's "That 70s Show")as well. But mostly it's that damn song. It's in my head like a titanium plate. The composer is Gwendolyn Sanford... can't find any releases. --- basic hip wrote: > Ha! > Glad to my wife and I weren't the only ones to enjoy > this delightfully > twisted little film. > I've looked for the soundtrack ever since the day we > saw the movie which was > months ago and no luck. :( __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) oodly, oodly Date: 08 Mar 2001 08:13:31 -0800 (PST) One more bit on this film: Jonathan Richman and The Modern Lovers' "Astral Plane was also part of the ST. Wonderful choice given Richman's sometimes mordant, but always genuinely childlike (in the sense of always attentive to the basic marvel of daily existence)attitude. Sort of a pre-pubescent Zen. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Some fill-ups in my exotica collection Date: 08 Mar 2001 17:46:17 +0100 (CET) citerar Brian Phillips : > That's spelled PHILLIPS, actually... > > Brian...you know. Brian, I hate to tell you this... But you are wrong, it's PHILIPS. Magnus :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christine Karkow Subject: Re: (exotica) Tikiapolis Date: 08 Mar 2001 09:05:21 -0800 Hola Matt, There used to be a great polyesian place I think at the old Lemmington. this is where much of my love of polynesian dining started. I'd always make my parents take me there for my birthday. Alas, this is of no help to you now. I don't know where you can find any Umbrella drinks in the Twin Cities. However, if you haven't been there already, I do highly recommend Nyes Polonaise Room, just north of the Mississippi on Hennepin Ave-great piano bar and decor. Plus, next door, there is usually a good polka group playing. The place is packed on weekends, and a loud hawaiian shirt would fit in, though a polyester leisure suit would be more a propos. a couple of years ago I went to a place on the Midway in St Paul called the Turf Club, where they had a band playing pretty good bossa nova stuff. This is all I know, as my visits to Mpls are quite infrequent. Christine # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark jung" Subject: (exotica) Re:Where to find Exotica clip-art for sale Date: 08 Mar 2001 17:36:03 Dover Publications, america's greatest cheap little reprint house, has started releasing CD-ROMs with typefaces (24 scalable fonts in upper & lower case, both true type and postcript type 1 for mac & windows) and clip art (b&w, 600 DPI in six formats, all between 100 - 300 images) for 14.95 for the singles (with a printed book), or 4 for $49.95, and mega-bundles of 15 for $149.95. some GREAT stuff in there, copyright free, and they're adding more titles each season. downside is, dover's the only company in the universe without a web site. call 516 294-7000 and ask for a catalog - "electronic clip art" & "display fonts series" in their "pictorial archive catalog"'s what you want. mark >on 3/6/01 8:13 PM, HEDCANDY@aol.com at HEDCANDY@aol.com wrote: > > > Anyone have a line on some affordable Retro / Exotica clip art for sale? >I > > teach a high school commercial arts class and am looking for something >that > > has some images or some cool retro fonts. Any suggestions? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Hodge" Subject: (exotica) Groovy soundtracks - help Date: 08 Mar 2001 17:05:57 -0000 Hi I'm an infrequent contributor to this list but always find it an excellent source of info regarding my developing musical tastes. A big thank you to all of you for helping out - whether you were aware or not! I now plan to do less lurking and more contributing as I think I now have something to say regarding 'now sounds' (I'm less confident with exotica) I wonder if there's anyone who could help me with my quest for groovy soundtracks. I've just acquired the 'Hammersmith is Out' OST LP which is fantastic! The tracks 'Kiddo' and 'Snake dance' are exactly what I'm searching for (funky organic grooves with brass). I love the Blow Up comps, Italian library comps such as Sonorissima and Sound Gallery 'now sound' type tracks. I would like to know about OSTs that are worth collecting - with funky tracks yes but also with a real moody feel. Just like 'Hammersmith is Out'. I can't praise it highly enough. I know I'm not really contributing here to a discussion but any help would be very much appreciated Regards Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Tiki Charms Date: 08 Mar 2001 09:53:25 -0800 (PST) Does anyone have a line on where to find gold (14k)tiki charms? I can only come up with silver and plate. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Tiki palaces on the internet Date: 08 Mar 2001 19:02:38 +0100 (CET) The hero in my cartoon will soon walk by a tiki palace, a crucial ingredience later in the story. I NEED PICTURES. Br Cleve sended me some postcards a year ago, but I need more. Any idea of where to find tiki restaurant images on the internet, from the outside this time? Yes, I am waiting desperatly for a copy of Book of Tiki. Ordered it three month ago by my local bookshop, but got tired of waiting and choosed the Barnes and Noble website. Amazon.com always result's in custom charges in sweden. Kinda desperate, please help! Magnus Visit: -----------Go Buzz!------------ http://www.bellybongo.com/gobuzz/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: CD-Rs - Labels, protection Date: 08 Mar 2001 15:32:46 +0100 Moritz wrote: >I haven't heard that a label is a protection for the CD and I cannot >imagine why this should be the case. because the data layer is a very thin aluminium foil, protected at the data side by a piece of plastic, and at the other side by nothing more than the printing paint and some varnish... Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: Re: (exotica) Groovy soundtracks - help Date: 08 Mar 2001 18:22:14 -0000 hello paul >I've just acquired the 'Hammersmith is Out' OST LP which is >fantastic! I agree, it's a gem of an OST, and how about that picture of topless chicks playing drums for 'The Tits' on the back cover? can't beat that. >I love the Blow Up comps, Italian library comps such as Sonorissima and >Sound Gallery >'now sound' type tracks. you might like "Sound Spectrum" comp; the "Italia Erotica" comp on Bistro records; and the "Psycho Beat comp. Volume 3" >I would like to know about OSTs that are worth collecting - with funky >tracks yes but also >with a real moody feel. Just like 'Hammersmith is Out'. I can't praise it >highly enough. well, just off the top of my head: 1) THE ADVENTURERS by Ray Brown and Quincy Jones (funkish, sound-galleryish) 2) STILLETTO by Sid Ramin (not Funky, but very now-sounds) 3) BARBARELLA by Bob Crewe (unbeleivably good) 4) BULLITT by Lalo Schifrin (cool, 60's sounds) 5) THREE DAYS OF THE CONDOR by Dave Grusin (some cool funkish, now-sounds, a few lame tracks though) 6) THE DEADLY AFFAIR by Quincy Jones (very dark, samba-ish, light now sounds -- sounds good at night) 7) FOLLOW ME by Stu Phillips (some cool 60's, wordless vocals stuff) also, get any of the STU PHILLIPS biker OSTs (ANGELS FROM HELL or HELL'S ANGELS ON WHEELS) 8) TRUCK TURNER by Isaac Hayes - goes for CHEAP on eBay, and I think it's a great blaxplo OST. "Pursuit of the Pimpmobile" is 9 minutes of great 70's street action soundtrack sounds. For blaxplo, I also like COFFY, MELINDA, WILLIE DYNAMITE, and THE SOUL OF NIGGER CHARLIE. 9) HAMMERHEAD by David Whittaker - great OST, totally underrated and overlooked. Very 60's ish, Sound-Gallery stuff 10) THE THEIF WHO CAME TO DINNER by Henry Mancini, has some fantastic slow early 70's grooves. Might fit your request for "moody". Superb. THERE ARE WAYYYYYY MORE THAN I'VE LISTED HERE - THIS AIN'T A COMPLETE ACCOUNT. Others on this list will give better suggestions than I, but I like OSTs a lot -- particularly the sort you're after -- and these came to mind. for more info check out "blaxploitation.com" (they review tons of cool OSTs). best of luck Paul, jbrouwer _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) St. Poi Date: 08 Mar 2001 12:23:51 -0600 Hola Christine! Thanks for the skinny on Nye's. I almost went there last night, but opted instead to try to find the legendary Bali Hai supperclub in Maplewood. Bali Hai had it all; exotic drinks, Polynesian decor, greasy Chinese food, and even a floor show with hula grrlz! I say "had" because as I sadly discovered, the Bali Hai was torn down less than a year ago to make room for....a Sprint telephone store!!!??? Jeez, when are we going to get our priorities straight and get with the program in this country? Why do we continually demolish the coolest stuff from our past and replace it with souless tilt-up concrete slab factories of rank commerce? Why, why, why, why??? So there's apparently no tiki in the Twin Cities, dammit. Somewhere out on the frozen tundra, a Lutheran farmer in a Hawaiian shirt and OshKosh B'Gosh overalls is weeping. Sadly, Matt -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki palaces on the internet Date: 08 Mar 2001 13:51:42 -0500 Magnus Sandberg wrote: > The hero in my cartoon will soon walk by a tiki palace, a crucial ingredience later in the story. I NEED PICTURES. Try going to : http://pro.corbis.com/search and entering "tiki" or some other keyword. lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki palaces on the internet Date: 08 Mar 2001 20:20:00 +0100 (CET) > Try going to : http://pro.corbis.com/search and entering "tiki" or some > other keyword Thanks Lou, there were some amazing pics there, some look like the tikis at the Marquesas islands. I will definetely have usage of these, but I found no restaurant images. No Tiki Pop. Maybe the idea is I have to create them myself.... But it so difficult to get it.. right... you know.. like it supposed to look... Trader Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki palaces on the internet Date: 08 Mar 2001 20:32:10 +0100 (CET) citerar Mimi Mayer : > Mo has some great pix of Trader Vic's Munich on his site. Don't have the > URL handy, I regret. Think it's posted in the signature file on his emails. > Good luck, Magnus. Mimi > Yeah I know about those, completely incredible, but they are from the inside! Magnsu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Fodder" Subject: (exotica) Shooby Taylor MP3's Date: 08 Mar 2001 12:00:32 -0800 I think some of you will dig this. It's Shooby Taylor Time! THE SHOOBY TAYLOR MP3 ARCHIVE Plus there is a Wild Man Fischer Live Show from 1986 up too. It's all in the Interstellar Cafe, http://www.thebranflakes.com/mofo/icafe/index.html - Otis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: RE: (exotica) Shooby Taylor MP3's Date: 08 Mar 2001 12:28:34 -0800 From the bran flakes, be sure to follow the link to scrumpdillyishus (sp?) land for some seriously funked-up shockwave goodies with all kinds of incredibly-strange and exotic sound bytes, my fave being the Ken Griffin "Kringle Jingle" snippets that one hears when the mouse passes over certain text on the main page. I was just there...Synchronicity! Ron I think some of you will dig this. It's Shooby Taylor Time! THE SHOOBY TAYLOR MP3 ARCHIVE Plus there is a Wild Man Fischer Live Show from 1986 up too. It's all in the Interstellar Cafe, http://www.thebranflakes.com/mofo/icafe/index.html - Otis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) Re: Zodiac Cosmic Sounds Date: 08 Mar 2001 22:19:37 +0100 (MET) Colleen asked and Johan wrote: > Colleen had asked if the Zodiac Cosmic Sounds was reissued... > it was (unofficially) re-released on limited heavy vinyl in 1999, but > i never came across it, and have no idea were to look for it. try > http://www.gemm.com I did get my copy in 1999 at: http://www.w-voelkel.de/ It is a good mailorder for all kinds of 60s beat/punk/psychedelia and also for exotic 60s Beat. He stocks stuff like the turkish delights comp, ultra chicks or the yugobeat explosions. ( but I WARN you about "the greece goes modern vol 1" Comp. very disappointing. Only bad covers sung in english I am not sure how up to date & complete his website is. Wolfgang (the nice guy who runs the mailorder) told me that the most of his consumers still don’t use it. me too, but just because I know that his regular mail-lists are better. Martin -- visit the ***Space Escapade*** Exotic Club Pop Entertainment with Guests and the Lemon Squeezer Sound System at the Atomic Cafe, Neuturmstr. 5, Munich, every Tuesday Night http://www.atomic.de/ Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Groovy soundtracks - help Date: 08 Mar 2001 16:31:22 -0500 At 05:05 PM 3/8/01 -0000, Paul Hodge wrote: > >I wonder if there's anyone who could help me with my quest for groovy >soundtracks. > >I would like to know about OSTs that are worth collecting - with funky >tracks Well you heard from Mr.Brouwer and he's the man when it comes to this kind of stuff. I could try and add a few but I make a distinction between groovy and funky and I'm not sure if the groovy soundtracks I like for example "Kaleidoscope", are actually funky. The only thing I can think of which is both groovy and funky is "Brewster McCloud", one whole side of which has a funky groove. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jane Fondle Subject: (exotica) Black Widow, mama Date: 08 Mar 2001 16:41:28 -0800 (PST) hile i was picking this up i saw some lalo schifrin disc called "black widow" i think. it appeared to be some old ost. but then i saw the word remix so i wasn't sure what it was. does anyone have this? i seem to recall a vague discussion of this before. william in taipei. OH JEEZUS! This is album is so fucking fanstastic---you must take a superjet back to where you saw it and go buy, NOW! Among it's other charms is a disco version of QUIET VILLAGE, and other nice bitso-o-thee-now-sound! Lovin Lalo, Jane Fondle, who btw sez the RUSH HOUR ost that Lalo composed is purty friggin good, too~!! ===== "It's just my nature to do weird stuff." - Les Baxter Buy the debut release from Astroslut: LOVE AT ZERO G at: http://cdalley.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Groovy soundtracks - help Date: 08 Mar 2001 19:43:23 EST In a message dated 3/8/1 6:49:12 PM, azed@pathcom.com wrote: >At 05:05 PM 3/8/01 -0000, Paul Hodge wrote: >>I wonder if there's anyone who could help me with my quest for groovy >>soundtracks. I happen to have a few handy here...These are primarily groovy with a dash of funk in some places: Neal Hefti-How To Murder Your Wife Hugo Montenegro-Lady In Cement Nino Rota/Armando Trovajoli-Boccaccio '70 Jimmie Haskell-I'll Take Sweden Francis Lai-Live For Life Pete Rugolo-The Sweet Ride Michel Legrand-The Young Girls Of Rochefort Unknown-Palm Springs Weekend Neal Hefti-Lord Love A Duck Frank DeVol-Guess Who's Coming To Dinner Andre Previn/Johnny Williams-Valley Of The Dolls Ken Thorne-Inspector Clouseau The Association-Goodbye Columbus Luiz Bonfa/Eumir Deodato-The Gentle Rain Johnny Williams-Penelope Dennis Farnon-Arrivederci Baby! Johnny Williams-How To Steal A Million Stelvio Cipriani-Come Together Neal Hefti-Barefoot In The Park Johnny Williams-Not With My Wife You Don't Lynn Murray/Burt Bacharach-Promise Her Anything George Romanis-8 On The Lam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jane Fondle Subject: (exotica) A Secret Revealed Date: 08 Mar 2001 16:47:57 -0800 (PST) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Eilert=20Pilarm=20hits=20G=E4vle?= The swedish elvis impersonator is in town! Tomorrow there will be concert at "The Heartbreak Hotel". I will post a review in a couple of days. Magnus Magnus IS the Swedish Elvis! Love, 'Cilla ===== "It's just my nature to do weird stuff." - Les Baxter Buy the debut release from Astroslut: LOVE AT ZERO G at: http://cdalley.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jane Fondle Subject: Re: (exotica) Black Widow, mama Date: 08 Mar 2001 16:49:39 -0800 (PST) --- DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 3/8/1 7:42:25 PM, you wrote: > > >hile i was picking this up i saw some lalo schifrin > >disc called > >"black > >widow" i think. it appeared to be some old ost. but > >a vague discussion of this before. > > its Lalo on late CTI, circa 1976, and while it has > its moments I'd say avoid > it unless you really like CTI post 1973 fusion....JB Well, darling, dearone...You and I rarely spar, but I gotta say it's killah and I am partial to things CTI! William, et al, purchase at your peril, but Jane sent ya' (new people are asking, who the hell is she?) ===== "It's just my nature to do weird stuff." - Les Baxter Buy the debut release from Astroslut: LOVE AT ZERO G at: http://cdalley.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kendoll Subject: (exotica) tiki mugs Date: 08 Mar 2001 18:03:13 -0700 i've had a banner week at the thrift stores finding tiki items -- mugs of all sorts on three different occasions, tiki salt 'n' peppa shakers, as well as some non-tiki related souvenir items. my question is: are wooden tiki mugs okay to drink from or are they strictly decorative (like those collectors plates that are only good for hanging on the wall)? mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) music for children's events Date: 08 Mar 2001 20:36:32 -0500 > while i was picking this up i saw some lalo schifrin disc called "black > widow" i think. it appeared to be some old ost. but then i saw the word > remix so i wasn't sure what it was. does anyone have this? i seem to recall > a vague discussion of this before. It's one of my favourites - not typical of other Schifrin stuff at all, but very funky if it's the Black Widow CD - but I'm curious about the "remix" part - perhaps it's not the original, but a remix version, in which case, I'd love to know what it is! cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com Subject: (exotica) re:oodly Date: 08 Mar 2001 20:38:55 EST I watched the first half of Chuck & Buck last night and fell in love with that song. I was driving today thinking that I would check the credits and find out where to find it. Oddly enough, I just saw Freaks and Geeks for the first time - I stumbled across a marathon showing on the family channel. I stopped changing channels when I saw that blond. She just...uh.....reminded me of high school. Great show. And now I'm off to find out what happens to Chuck and Buck. And find that song. Bob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: (exotica) *uck and *uck (Chuck and Buck) Date: 08 Mar 2001 18:14:11 -0800 For those of you wondering what the heck this song is that is dancing in our heads, hear a little snip at the official site: http://www.chucknbuck.com/ make sure you click on the "enhanced" lollypop # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: (exotica) Looking for Michael Greenberg Date: 08 Mar 2001 19:44:33 -0800 Michael Greenberg, are you out there? If so, please drop me a line. or if anybody has his email, please send it to me. Sorry to clutter your mailboxes with this, everyone # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) *uck and *uck (Chuck and Buck) Date: 08 Mar 2001 23:18:56 -0500 Okay, so now it's dancing in all of our heads...oodlyoodlyoodlyoodlyoodlyoodlythanksthanksthanks... Has this movie been released? I haven't heard of it, but it may not have made it to our fair country yet (or the wonderful "nation of Quebec"...) cheryl > For those of you wondering what the heck this song is that is dancing in our > heads, hear a little snip at the official site: > http://www.chucknbuck.com/ > make sure you click on the "enhanced" lollypop # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) *uck and *uck (Chuck and Buck) Date: 08 Mar 2001 23:29:43 -0500 At 11:18 PM 3/8/01 -0500, cheryl wrote: .> >Has this movie been released? I haven't heard of it, but it may not have >made it to our fair country yet (or the wonderful "nation of Quebec"...) . I'm sure it made it there. It's on video here. And it's good. 7 out of 10. maybe 8. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Marisa's computer Date: 08 Mar 2001 22:43:49 -0800 Hey, all you mac experts...Marisa needs your help! I am absolutely clueless for macs (me know pc, no mac!), but I bet you have an idea. Marisa says she checked her email and visited some sites yesterday afternoon at lunch. Everything was working fine then. But when she came home from work the browser simply wouldn't launch. She says she spent 4 hours trying to get it to go...to no avail. Her computer, she says, is a Mac PowerPC 600 (or 6000, one of those) with an 8.0 OS, and the browser is Netscape Communicator 4.51. The browser is launched by a document called Browse the Web, which is located in the Desktop Folder, which is an invisible folder on the hard drive. Marisa also says her modem is doing its thing and she didn't touch the settings. Someone had suggested she reload Netscape and her operating system...but Marisa doesn't have the original software. What can she do? Byron ___...--''''***^^^^^^""""""^^^^^***''''---___ "You've got to stand for something or ||| you'll fall for anything." ||| ||| ---John Mellencamp ||| ||| ||| |||bag AT hubris DOT net Portland, OR, USA||| """^^^'''***----...__________...----'''^^^""" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Marisa's computer--addendum Date: 08 Mar 2001 22:48:14 -0800 BTW--Marisa joined the list like a year ago but later left...but she still enjoys the music that is USUALLY the list topic. Sorry about an off-topic question (I didn't MEAN to send it here...but I hope you can help anyway). Byron ___...--''''***^^^^^^""""""^^^^^***''''---___ "You've got to stand for something or ||| you'll fall for anything." ||| ||| ---John Mellencamp ||| ||| ||| |||bag AT hubris DOT net Portland, OR, USA||| """^^^'''***----...__________...----'''^^^""" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) tiki mugs Date: 09 Mar 2001 11:42:48 +0100 kendoll schrieb: > are wooden tiki mugs okay to drink from or are they strictly decorative I'd say decorative, although it's of course up to the personal taste of e= verybody, how to use items of style. most wooden tiki miugs I know have a= handle, as if they were designed to drink hot drinks, such as tea and co= ffee or punch from them. maybe, but as wood is a bit sensible to humidity= and heat, I would rather not do that either. these wooden mugs are not e= xpensice though - which puzzles me, as they are hand-carved. I think they= are the right mugs to give to your children. just cut of the handle and = your child has a nice personal mug for the years 4-10. Mo -- studio R kunst f=FCr kinder jeden alters http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) A Secret Revealed Date: 09 Mar 2001 13:13:59 +0100 (CET) Jane Fondle wrote: > Magnus IS the Swedish Elvis! > Love, 'Cilla Well she oughtta know, we have been engaged you know... For an hour at least. Before she married. I miss your kisses dear. Eilert Pilarm was great!!! I'll write a report later today Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) *uck and *uck (Chuck and Buck) Date: 09 Mar 2001 06:01:06 -0800 (PST) Awesome. That a cup of tar-black coffee makes the morning boot-up a pleasure. It's in my startup menu. (All I need now is a Banana Splits-yellow VW van and a 90 minute tape of that song!) Thanks! --- basic hip wrote: > > For those of you wondering what the heck this song > is that is dancing in our > heads, hear a little snip at the official site: __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) tiki mugs Date: 09 Mar 2001 06:07:55 -0800 (PST) I have quite a few of these mugs (and even a wooden ladle which is like the cups and has a tiki for handle as well), some of which claim to be hand carved from "monkey pod wood." Sure. I assumed they were used as punch vessels: scoop out of the bowl, or, if you have the tiki ladle... But I have never drank out of any of them because I'm not so sure how clean you scrub 30-40 year old wood. I think of trenchmouth dozing in the cells of the wood. > > > > kendoll typed: > > > are wooden tiki mugs okay to drink from or are > they strictly decorative __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki palaces on the internet Date: 09 Mar 2001 06:18:46 -0800 (PST) Try this one on, my brother: http://www.maikai.com/ --- Magnus Sandberg wrote: __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: (exotica) Thanks for Michaels address Date: 09 Mar 2001 06:44:00 -0800 Thanks for the help, my friends! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) A fool such as I. The Eilert Pilarm concert Date: 09 Mar 2001 18:43:45 +0100 (CET) Eilert Pilarm at the Heartbreak Hotel in G=E4vle mars 8 2001 I was looking forward to the concert this night, Eilert Pilarm was=20 about to sing, and I have enjoyed his off beat interpretation of Elvis'=20 wellknown reportoir for some 5 years. I have never seen him perform=20 live. The concert was starting at 11 pm, at the Elvis-soaked "The=20 Heartbreak Hotel" in G=E4vle, Sweden. This is the place to go to if you=20 are middle aged and like to dance to fifties rock and schlager. I have=20 been there a few times before and it is quite amazing, no hostile=20 atmosphere as the places with younger crowds in this town can have.=20 Often very drunk guests, but big smiles and a companero approach. I=20 drank a bottle of red wine to my dinner, just to get me in the right=20 mood.=20 In the taxi I was adviced to buy rave music, the driver was playing=20 some of that techno I cant stand, but he was kind of funny, I told him=20 I was going to see an Elvis impersonator who sang quite funny, but he=20 did not get it, instead he complained about the places in the town,=20 that there were no places for rave's anymore. I was glad when I got out=20 of his car. The ticket costed about $10, nothing to complain about, and I instantly=20 felt that this was going to be an special night because IT WAS CROWDED.=20 The middle aged seemed to have stayed home, and instead it was people=20 in their twenties there. Eilert Pilarm may have gathered attention=20 from a whole new audience since he started to show up on the commercial=20 television doing advertising playing himself for a company I can't=20 recall. I stood 30 minutes and waited to order a cider, the personel=20 had T-shirts with Eilert Pilarm prints, made especially for the=20 evening, and I thought if I was going to ask them how much they costed,=20 but I choosed not to. All of a sudden I heard the wellknown voice of=20 Eilert and when I turned around the small scene with the dance floor=20 was very crowded, I did not see Eilert, but I knew he was somewhere in=20 that mess performing. I lit a cigarette and started to move forward=20 into the crowd, while paying attention to the peoples faces and words.=20 Only happy smiles to my surprise and an occasional -"He is sooo bad..=20 It's incredible" or "He is so funny!". While coming close enough so I=20 could see him I parked myself at one of the loudspeaker's, the volume=20 was quite low so it was not painful. A little lowdown was that he=20 performed with a prercorded tape, but he sang for real. There was=20 something about his eyes that hit me, he was enjoying himself bigtime!=20 His eyes shined like stars! The crowd pulled out their hands towards=20 him wanting him to touch them and so he did between the songs, to their=20 joy. I noticed some affacionados that smiled towards me, like they were=20 saying "Is it not great?" "He is for real!" Are You Lonesome Tonight?=20 Blue Suede Shoes, Don't Be Cruel and Hound Dog was among the songs he=20 sung, now for those of you who have not heard him I can tell you that=20 he doesnt know how to speak english, he just tries to sing the same=20 tones as his beloved Elvis sings them, and sometimes he gets it all=20 wrong, but that only makes it better off course. Then he started=20 singing Blue Hawaii and I screamed like all the others "YEAH EILERT=20 EILERT EILERT". I noticed that the people behind me, who was merely=20 laughing at first was all exitement now. HE HAD US ALL UNDER HIS=20 SPELL!!! Pretty soon all was dancing like Elvis himself was on stage, and there=20 was a real loving feeling in the air. Some of the elder ones looked=20 really nostalgic, liked they missed their youth. I think it went on for=20 about an hour, he delivered the classics from his CDs, and even some=20 stuff that I did not know about. Suddenly it was over, but we wanted=20 more, so a lot of screams later he came up on stage and performed a=20 very touching version of A fool such as I. The words hit me and I felt=20 a sadness, but not for long, Eilert was really happy this night and he=20 make us all feel a little better, and I left the place while he was=20 doing his last number. I walked home in the darkness, bought a hot=20 dog... Everything was back to normal again. But the memory lives on, A=20 memory of an honest man doing his best. He is very touching and people=20 feet that this guy does not fool you like all the other artists=20 nowadays. Eilert Pilarm is something else. Ford, Johan... You should=20 have been there! Magnus -----------Go Buzz!------------ http://www.bellybongo.com/gobuzz/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Taub Subject: (exotica) Devo Members Reunite As Surf Band Date: 09 Mar 2001 12:58:12 -0500 Don't think this is too off topic Link here (Took me several tries as the server was busy). http://www.billboard.com:80/daily/2001/0307_06.asp Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Millionaire Subject: (exotica) Ferrante & Teicher interview appeal Date: 09 Mar 2001 10:05:38 -0800 Hi all, I'm going to be interviewing Art Ferrante and Lou Teicher on LuxuriaMusic this MONDAY March 12, at 9:30 AM (pst)/12:30 PM(est)...for about a half hour.This is their first inteerview together in 12 years!! Though I will be talking mostly about their new release and, also their upcoming return to prepared-piano recordings (!!!!), I thought it would be fun to canvass the afficionados out here for interview question suggestions. If there's anything you'd like to know...here's your chance .Bear in mind, this is a pretty brief interview, so I'll probably only be able to get to a few questions, but I'll definitely use the best ones!That's what a resource like this is good for! Please reply privately to my Yahoo account: rkriviera@yahoo.com Have a great weekend!! The Millionaire LuxuriaMusic 1424 Lincoln Blvd. Santa Monica, CA 90401 phone:(310) 319-3833 fax:(240) 376-7734 www.luxuriamusic.com "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." -Hunter S. Thompson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) A fool such as I. The Eilert Pilarm concert Date: 09 Mar 2001 10:35:32 -0800 (PST) To hear den Kung (and you should): http://www.algonet.se/~pergunne/ljud.html Perhaps Steven Van Zandt could lend his elvonic toupee: http://www.algonet.se/~pergunne/eilert.html --- Magnus Sandberg wrote: > > > Eilert Pilarm at the Heartbreak Hotel in Gävle mars > 8 2001 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Laughs in Sweden Date: 09 Mar 2001 19:39:00 +0100 (CET) I just heard on TV in a news report on laugh-therapists that in the fifties we laughed approximately 18 minutes per day. Today we laugh 6 minutes per day, A girl who was interviewed said this: "We live in a serious country, we are serious poeople, that is why we are facing serious problems". It all can't be that serious 'cause we live in a fairytale, we have a King and Queen. Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Re: CD vs. Vinyl, Vol. 7 (aprox.) Date: 09 Mar 2001 14:07:35 -0500 This reminds me of the LP "Sleep Dirt" by Frank Zappa. The CD is actually = produced much *differently* so that that songs are actually NOT the same = on the CD version!!!!! (They're worse of course....) - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) Groovy soundtracks - help Date: 09 Mar 2001 11:25:46 -0800 >I wonder if there's anyone who could help me with my quest for groovy soundtracks. I would highly recommend the Jazzbeat comps, as well as the Shake Sauvage comp. Sound library tracks, with a wealth of different kinds of material you might like. And I believe that the Truck Turner soundtrack was just reissued. A lot of people like the Shaft soundtrack, but I think that's just because it's a more popular film. I think Truck Turner is a much better soundtrack, or let's just say I like listening to it, and playing it, unlike the Shaft soundtrack. Unlucky --- Mr. Unlucky presents Shoot To Kill, a weekly set of jazz, soundtrack music, Now Sound, and the occasional foray into international territory on Supersphere.com, Thursdays 1-2 p.m. (CST). Many past sets are archived for future listening pleasure. http://www.supersphere.com Get 250 color business cards for FREE! at Lycos Mail http://mail.lycos.com/freemail/vistaprint_index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Laughs in Sweden Date: 09 Mar 2001 14:45:35 -0500 At 07:39 PM 3/9/01 +0100, Magnus Sandberg wrote: .> >I just heard on TV in a news report on laugh-therapists that in the >fifties we laughed approximately 18 minutes per day. Today we laugh 6 >minutes per day. I'd be more interested in finding out what makes people laugh than how much they laugh. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Disappearing Records Date: 09 Mar 2001 12:02:37 -0800 >Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:23:54 -0500 >From: "Brian" >Subject: Re: (exotica) The disappearing record dealers > >You cannot easily buy a turntable and Turntables are still being made for as low as a couple hundred bucks new, and you can get good deals on used ones at ebay. >records are for the most part no longer produced. That really doesn't bother me much, because interesting music is no longer produced for the most part either. CD is fine for stuff recorded digitally. >The market for them is >very specialized, from DJs to old(er) collectors. They take up a lot of >space in stores and they don't move quickly as the bad ones seem to stay. I don't see records in retail stores, except for expensive specialty shops. But they are at just about every garage sale, library book sale and swap meet I go to. You just need to plug in to the right places to look. >If you ask me Ebay and other like businesses is the way this will all go as >the cost/profit ratio of running a vinyl stocked record store worsens. You >just gave to see the mounds of vinyl in the thrift stores, most of it going >begging even there, to know this won't go on forever. I can still find piles of 78s, and they haven't been made since the early 60s, so I wouldn't throw out that turntable yet. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Fred Waring Date: 09 Mar 2001 12:02:40 -0800 exotica-digest wrote: >In a message dated 03/07/01 7:03:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, >spaceagepop@earthlink.net writes: > ><< Now ... every other Fred Waring album I've ever seen sucks, though. >> Fred Waring had a career that goes back to the late 20's. You are looking at the wrong end of the animal. In the early 30's he had a hopping little dance band. I see a lot of mention of artists like Xavier Cugat, Les Brown, Guy Lombardo and Waring on here referring to their mid to late 60's LP's... Very little of this stuff is much good for anything but novelty value. Go back a few decades, and you'll find that these guys put out first class music that you can listen to without that "so bad it's good" sneer on your face. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Hodge" Subject: (exotica) groovy soundtracks Date: 09 Mar 2001 19:09:15 -0000 Thanks to everyone who's suggested groovy/funky 'now sound' type soundtracks. I'll be keeping a close eye on ebay for these - although I guess some of them go for a small fortune?! Any more I should look out for? Two other favourites of mine - Get Carter & Vampyros Lesbos. I never get tired of these. Another question: did The Free Design ever contribute to a soundtrack. Just a thought (and a very nice one at that) Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Laughs in general Date: 09 Mar 2001 12:02:24 -0800 (PST) One comedian said that "nothing is funnier than unhappiness." (cf. Three Stooges...). The suffering of incongruity. In a pinch, N2O does a particularly fine job, too. --- alan zweig wrote: day. > > I'd be more interested in finding out what makes > people laugh than how much > they laugh. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappearing Records Date: 09 Mar 2001 21:34:13 +0100 (CET) citerar bigshot : > That really doesn't bother me much, because interesting music > is no longer produced for the most part either. CD is fine for > stuff recorded digitally. I agree with you, but it does not feel very good to do so... What has happened with humanity? Somehow it feels that the devil in us is just agressive and dark, and the other side is just following its trail. We work harder than ever before and we listen to music for robots. Now when I had my psychosis I experienced a nazi takeover, I just wasnt able to make my own decisions, lets hope this was only something in my imagination and my awareness of my dark inner self, anyway those experiences is long gone now, except sometimes in my dreams. I have even dreamt of meeting Hitler, I walked up to him and asked him: "Mr Hitler, wouldn't it be nicer if we all loved each other instead of hating?" My mind just couldnt give an answer to that so I awoke. Even since the 80s I have seen a pleasant world being concured by yuppies and technofaschist people, I just wish for those people to go away and leave me alone, or to see a revolution in pure human emotion, to kick their asses and start a better way of living. When I was little I hated christianity, because the lively part of me was a beast, now when seeing the insane state our world has come into, I am ashamed and actually feel responsible. I feel more at easy with the generation before me, and the one before them. It is something about decency, that I just think my generation lack. Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Sound ONline Inventory and Catalog Date: 09 Mar 2001 16:07:10 -0500 A tip o' the 10 gallon hat to The Scout Report for bringing this site to my attention: SONIC - Sound ONline Inventory and Catalog http://www.loc.gov/rr/record/ The Library of Congress has recently released an online catalog that allows access to the records of the largest publicly available audio collection in the world. SONIC contains approximately 350,000 entries, representing over 25 percent of the Library's sound recording holdings. SONIC offers information to the public for the first time about a number of collections. These include over 100,000 45 rpm discs, 82,000 78 rpm discs, 68,000 NBC records from the 1930s-60s, 1,500 WWII Marine Corps combat recordings, and 2,000 "Meet the Press" broadcasts, among others. Visitors may search the catalog by keyword, title, name, or subject. Also available are several special "search screens" for specific searches, such as radio broadcasts, music only, or spoken word only. Audio samples are not provided online; instead the site lists standard catalog information, such as title, publication status, medium, work(s), genre, and a brief phyical description. The site includes a guide to using the collections and two finding aids. From The Scout Report, Copyright Internet Scout Project 1994-2001. http://scout.cs.wisc.edu/ lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Gingerich Subject: (exotica)Wine Glasses Date: 09 Mar 2001 16:11:09 -0500 hi looking for music played on (water-filled) wine glasses. Anyone have any urls, cd names, suggestions? thanx pg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica)Wine Glasses Date: 09 Mar 2001 16:17:54 -0500 Do you mean the Glass Harmonica aka Glass Armonica? http://www.google.com/search?q=%22glass+harmonica%22 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22glass+armonica%22 lousmith@pipeline.com peter.gingerich@wcom.com wrote: > hi looking for music played on (water-filled) wine glasses. Anyone have any urls, cd names, suggestions? thanx pg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica)Wine Glasses Date: 09 Mar 2001 16:25:44 -0500 Sorry, Peter, did you mean Glass Harp, and not Glass Armonica? Try these, or enter "glass harp" in an engine (but watch out for links meant for that 60's power trio): http://www.glasharfe.de/texte/Glasshrp.htm http://www.masterpiece.cc/glasses.htm http://glass.4mg.com/anglais.htm lousmith@pipeline.com peter.gingerich@wcom.com wrote: > hi looking for music played on (water-filled) wine glasses. Anyone have any urls, cd names, suggestions? thanx pg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: Re: (exotica)Wine Glasses Date: 09 Mar 2001 15:42:18 -0600 If you mean the Glass Harmonica, there's one called "Music for Glass Harmonica" (Vox Unique 9008) by Bruno Hoffman. It's all classical works, however. Don't know of any glass harmonica recordings of popular music, but it would be a gas! Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) more uses for glass Date: 09 Mar 2001 17:12:45 -0500 http://www.finkenbeiner.com/links.html http://glass.4mg.com/discoangl.htm and check here for links to Glass Music International, the association of people who insist on getting sounds out of glass: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22glass+music+international%22 off to hoist a few glasses of my own, lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kendoll Subject: Re: (exotica)Wine Glasses Date: 09 Mar 2001 17:24:34 -0700 Peter Gingerich wrote: > looking for music played on (water-filled) wine glasses. > Anyone have any urls, cd names, suggestions? i have a cassette of glass harmonica music by The Furry Eggs (94 rue de l'Espinay, Quebec, Quebec, Canada G1L 2H5 -- it's an old cassette so this address may not be useful). besides classical pieces, they do versions of moon dance, eidelweiss, chopsticks and moon river. they provide this note: "The glass harmonica or angelica was invented in 1749 by Richard Pockeridge, and reached its peak with Mozart's Adagio and Rondo in 1791. Its demise early in the 19th century was probably due to the belief that its harmonic tones could cause nervous disorders." mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica)Wine Glasses Date: 09 Mar 2001 19:34:06 EST In a message dated 3/9/1 4:08:17 PM, peter.gingerich@wcom.com wrote: >looking for music played on (water-filled) wine glasses. > >Anyone have any urls, cd names, suggestions? A CD-Rom called "Thinkin' Things" for kids has a duck that plays some wine glasses...Hope that helps...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: (exotica) off-topic MAC query for Bag@hubris.net Date: 09 Mar 2001 16:50:28 -0800 I'm trying to help our friends with the Netscape problem, and I suspect Zapping the PRAM and rebuilding the desktop will help, but I forget how to do these things as i have not had a mac for a few years now. Would a current Mac-owner please post the basic steps to these procedures? Otherwise I'll dig through an old mac book and see if I can find it. Thanks. Ron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christine Karkow Subject: Re: (exotica)Wine Glasses Date: 09 Mar 2001 18:24:26 -0800 don't know of any recordings of wine glasses but there used to be a bartender at the Minneapolis Club in Great Falls Montana who used to play songs on all of the liquor bottles. This isn't any help, but just a memory that I had to share. christine # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica)Wine Glasses Date: 09 Mar 2001 22:05:18 -0500 >"The glass harmonica or angelica was invented in 1749 by Richard >Pockeridge, and reached its peak with Mozart's Adagio and Rondo in 1791. >Its demise early in the 19th century was probably due to the belief that >its harmonic tones could cause nervous disorders." Somewhere I've heard the theory that the nervous disorders (suffered by musicians playing the instrument) were caused by high lead content in the glass bowls (or lead paint on the bowls), which was absorbed through their wet fingertips. The instrument makes a cameo appearance in Thomas Pynchon's "Mason & Dixon", at the hands of Ben Franklin in a Philly pub. (what an oddly constructed sentence) m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) A fool such as I. The Eilert Pilarm concert Date: 09 Mar 2001 10:03:08 -0600 Magnus, Your review was wonderful, I felt your excitement. Is he well known all over Europe or just Sweden? It sounds like you had a wonderful night...thanks for sharing it. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Hodge" Subject: (exotica) Hefti - How to murder your wife Date: 10 Mar 2001 08:04:52 -0000 On the subject of Groovy Soundtracks... Can anyone tell me how groovy is Neal Hefti's 'How to murder your wife' OST? And what type of groovy: jazz, swinging go-go, now sounds...? I've yet to see the film...what's it like? Thanks in advance Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) A fool such as I. The Eilert Pilarm concert Date: 10 Mar 2001 11:11:55 +0100 (CET) citerar Colleen Pyles : > > Magnus, > Your review was wonderful, I felt your excitement. Is he well known > all over Europe or just Sweden? It sounds like you had a wonderful > night...thanks for sharing it. Well, from what I have heard he is featured with a chapter in Irwin Chusids book about outsider artists, "Songs from k to z" or something like that, i have not read it myself, maybe some other listee can tell us... He was voted "artist of the year" in some radio show in great britain, but I dont know if he is that famous... He does his own thing. He is a truly original, the kind that unforunately seems to disappear, over here anyway. Thanks for the kind words about my review, yes it was wonderful. The sparkle in his eyes I will never forget. I am glad you liked it :) Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappearing Records Date: 10 Mar 2001 14:06:52 +0100 Magnus Sandberg schrieb: > citerar bigshot : > > > interesting music is no longer produced for the most part either. > > I agree with you I really can't believe such comments. I think we are living in one of the most interesting productive period in music history. I guess it owes partly to this kind of attitude that people like Jill Mingo left this list. That is, I don't just guess - I *know* it. Here's a quote from the popnouveau list: > I think the new Pizzicato 5 LP is one of their best yet. I don't think it > is particularly housey - I think it sounds very traditional and very > poppy. Absolutely fresh and retro-influenced. Nothing mixed about it for > me. It fucking rules!!! I can't stop listening to it, and I've never > really been their biggest fans although I do like them (or I wouldn't > have shelled out $30 for the CD!) > Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tiki_ head" Subject: Re: (exotica) Devo Members Reunite As Surf Band Date: 10 Mar 2001 14:42:22 -0000 Eric typed: > >Don't think this is too off topic >Link here (Took me several tries as the server was busy). > >http://www.billboard.com:80/daily/2001/0307_06.asp This is so far ON topic, it's scary! mr _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) What is happening in Milano, Italy ? Date: 10 Mar 2001 17:03:14 +0100 (MET) A friend of mine (Julia, a very nice person) will stay the next time in Milano for a practical course. Can someone recommend her interesting things like night live/clubs (she likes brasil, organ grovves etc.) and modern art. ? Isn't the home from SCHEMA Records Milano ? so where do they play there fantastic records ? BTW the new SCHEMA 12inch Descarga by Gerardo Frisina is ABSOLUT FANTASTIC, HOT HOT HOT GROOVY BONGOS... Thanks a lot Martin -- visit the ***Space Escapade*** Exotic Club Pop Entertainment with Guests and the Lemon Squeezer Sound System at the Atomic Cafe, Neuturmstr. 5, Munich, every Tuesday Night http://www.atomic.de/ Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: (exotica) new Tipsy Date: 10 Mar 2001 08:20:20 -0800 Anybody out there heard the new Tipsy "Uh-OH"? I got it on Tuesday and am still digesting it. Sounds all as about as good as their first one, maybe better??!! The samples are not as easily recognised like on the first one, sounds like they really did some crate diggin' for this one. Surprised to find a friend of mine played some drums on it. Gotta listen to it more to give a real critique. -jonny yuma _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) Swingin' Shepherd Blues Date: 09 Mar 2001 23:08:05 -0600 Hi guys, One of my favorite tunes is Swingin' Shepherd Blues by Moe Kaufman. Did he do anything else? And is this song on any comps or anything? I'm having trouble finding a copy of it. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Hefti - How to murder your wife Date: 10 Mar 2001 12:46:18 -0500 on 3/10/01 3:04 AM, Paul Hodge at paul.hodge@virgin.net wrote: > > On the subject of Groovy Soundtracks... > > Can anyone tell me how groovy is Neal Hefti's 'How to murder your wife' OST? > > And what type of groovy: jazz, swinging go-go, now sounds...? groovy jazz, mostly, with some swinging go go. A nice mid-60's track. Almost all of Hefti's tracks have these qualities ("Duel At Diablo", a western, doesn't, nor does "Synanon", a drama about junkies). The only thing about Hefti is he usually writes one theme and then just keeps rearrangeing it, but it's usually a hell of a theme and the arrangements are inventive. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingin' Shepherd Blues Date: 10 Mar 2001 12:50:39 -0500 on 3/10/01 12:08 AM, Colleen Pyles at colleen7@ireland.com wrote: > One of my favorite tunes is Swingin' Shepherd Blues by Moe Kaufman. > Did he do anything else? I've got a pretty groovy record by him called "Turned On" (Jubilee) - the cover of which features Moe starpped into an electric chair. Oh yeah, he's wearing a white Nehru suit, with yellow turtleneck and a medallion. Nice! It's Now Sound funk with some nice breakbeats. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: buMp Subject: Re: (exotica) new Tipsy Date: 10 Mar 2001 13:54:24 -0500 yes yes yes it is definitely one to listen to over and over getting better and better with every listen. way out tracks, cool groovin tracks, beautiful tracks, rockin' tracks yet another masterpiece. i have yet to hear an electronica band sound better than these guys. uh oh jongoooooo! way to go dave!, (where R U?) a quick 2 cents bump >Anybody out there heard the new Tipsy "Uh-OH"? I got it on Tuesday and am >still digesting it. Sounds all as about as good as their first one, maybe >better??!! The samples are not as easily recognised like on the first one, >sounds like they really did some crate diggin' for this one. Surprised to >find a friend of mine played some drums on it. > >Gotta listen to it more to give a real critique. > >-jonny yuma ****************************************************** ***************************** ************* DJ Bump "Primitive Rhythms for Evolved Minds" Defective Records-Executive Producer bump@defectiverecords.com http://www.defectiverecords.com "Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: Re: (exotica)Wine Glasses Date: 10 Mar 2001 13:15:11 -0600 Christine Karkow wrote: > don't know of any recordings of wine glasses but there used to be a > bartender at the Minneapolis Club in Great Falls Montana who used to play > songs on all of the liquor bottles. This isn't any help, but just a memory > that I had to share. Posts like this one are why I *love* this list! Thanks for sharing, Christine!! -Indy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingin' Shepherd Blues Date: 10 Mar 2001 16:30:13 -0500 >One of my favorite tunes is Swingin' Shepherd Blues by Moe Kaufman. >Did he do anything else? And is this song on any comps or anything? >I'm having trouble finding a copy of it. It appears on Volume 4 of the mighty fine "Teen Beat" series of comp CDs on Ace Records. CDs jam-packed with 30 instrumentals on each. They're up to Volume 5 now, I think, though I don't have that one yet. no relation, unfortunately, --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Hefti - How to murder your wife Date: 10 Mar 2001 17:13:34 EST The movie itself is sort of startlingly misogynist. Verna Lisi is gorgeous. The plot revolves around Jack Lemmon being a cartoonist. He gets drunk and winds up married to an Italian woman. His comic strip becomes an outlet for his frustration and unhappiness with the marriage as his kid adventurer protagonist becomes dark and murderous. His wife disappears at the same time his comic character is murdering someone. He's put on trial, and somehow manages to get off the hook though he more or less argues he was justified in killing her (even though he didn't). She then turns up and they reconcile, but in the back of his mind he knows that he can't be tried twice for the same crime (double jeopardy). Of course, it's been a while since I saw it. Can't remember the soundtrack, but Hefti did have a knack for the groovy sounds. << On the subject of Groovy Soundtracks... Can anyone tell me how groovy is Neal Hefti's 'How to murder your wife' OST? And what type of groovy: jazz, swinging go-go, now sounds...? I've yet to see the film...what's it like? Thanks in advance Paul >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Hefti - How to murder your wife Date: 10 Mar 2001 18:22:30 -0500 At 08:04 AM 3/10/01 -0000, Paul Hodge wrote: > >On the subject of Groovy Soundtracks... > >Can anyone tell me how groovy is Neal Hefti's 'How to murder your wife' OST? > >And what type of groovy: jazz, swinging go-go, now sounds...? I don't think it's that groovy. And I love Hefti. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingin' Shepherd Blues Date: 10 Mar 2001 18:22:31 -0500 At 11:08 PM 3/9/01 -0600, Colleen Pyles wrote: > >Hi guys, >One of my favorite tunes is Swingin' Shepherd Blues by Moe Kaufman. >Did he do anything else? And is this song on any comps or anything? >I'm having trouble finding a copy of it. I don't know what you mean by anything else. My former neighbour Moe KOFFman has made records for forty years and continues to do so. He never again got as lucky as he did with Swingin Shepherd but then again, how many people have turned jazz riffs into hit singles? (A few. Can you name them?) He had some success in the seventies with a jazz version of Vivaldi's Four Seasons and subsequently did other jazz/classical crossovers. I have that Tuned-In thing that br.cleve mentioned and it's cool. I'd be surprised if there weren't other things like that lurking around but I haven't found any. My younger brother played music with Moe's sons when we were kids and I always sort of got off on the fact that he was a musician but also a family man with kids and a house and all that. I know that sounds naive but hey I was a teenager and I thought musicians were too cool to have families. Or something like that. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) the king of the minimum ebay bids Date: 10 Mar 2001 18:47:47 -0500 http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=collectlps& include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25 Check out this guy's auctions if you want to see the principle of high minimum bids in action. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) my day for ebay references Date: 10 Mar 2001 19:08:22 -0500 I watched Barbarella on TV last night and I thought maybe I would be willing to pay a little money for a copy of the record. So I come across this auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1414875296 The description of the condition is what killed me. The guy wants minimally 45 bucks for the record but says the marks on the record don't affect the play "appreciably". Then he says "Great file copy". Har de har har. Sure. It plays okay. If you have two copies, this could be the copy you don't play. Just file it away. It'll cost you 56 dollars with shipping. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingin' Shepherd Blues Date: 10 Mar 2001 16:15:45 -0800 Moe Kaufman. > Did he do anything else?< Not only is ebay a great place to quickly find something specific, it is also an excellent reference for answering questions just like this. You'll come up with much more unusual findings than sources like the All-Music Guide which are CD heavy... So here is some Moe Koffman stuff, after checking out the active items, check out the "completed items". See something you want that closed with no bids? chances are good the seller will be happy to let you have it for the minimum. http://search-desc.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&quer y=moe+koffman&categoryid=&ht=1&st=0&category2=1071&srchdesc=y&maxRecordsPerP age=100&SortProperty=MetaEndSort How is that "Curried Soul" LP anyway? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingin' Shepherd Blues Date: 10 Mar 2001 21:16:21 -0500 >Moe Kaufman. > > Did he do anything else?< Swingin’ Shepard Blues! I’ve got on loan flutist “Herbie Mann The Beat Goes On” and there is a nice version of this song on there. The LP is described as “Afro-Cuban rock, Bossa Rock or Jazz on the rocks, for finger-snappers and the frugg ‘n’ watusi crowd”. Herbie Hancock is all over this LP. This was my favorite record a few days ago. A few weeks ago I asked about Moe Koffman’s “Museum Pieces.” The only reason I picked up an 8 TRACK copy of this was because someone on the list turned me on to Moe. Once again if anybody’s got a functional 8 track and wants it let me know. Domenic _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) my day for ebay references Date: 10 Mar 2001 21:45:21 -0500 This one's been "reissued" - it shows up from time to time at Dusty Groove - it'll cost around $15 bucks with shipping, I think... And it's on red vinyl... cheryl > I watched Barbarella on TV last night and I thought maybe I would be > willing to pay a little money for a copy of the record. So I come across > this auction: > > Sure. It plays okay. If you have two copies, this could be the copy you > don't play. Just file it away. It'll cost you 56 dollars with shipping. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, March 11 Date: 11 Mar 2001 02:45:19 -0500 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #133 J-Pop In honour of International Women's Day, it's time for the annual week of Feminist Frequencies at CKUT. This year, we're playing lots of J-pop, female vocal stuff. Big thanks go our to William for the Souvenir 99 comp, and to Luis for the Montecarlo and Kyoto comps. Bridge: Watermelon Bikini "Souvenir 99" Mayumi Kojima: I've Got A. "Souvenir 99" Nice Fellow: Twinkle Twinkle Twinkle "Kyoto Copenhagen Capri" 5th Garden: Put A Little Love In Your Heart "Souvenir 99" Yukari Fresh: Yukarimpic 1/2/3 "Escalator Records, Tokyo" 800 Cherries: Dizzy Dizzy Dizzy "Montecarlo Luton Cadaquez" Takako Minekawa: Milk Rock "Montecarlo Luton Cadaquez" California Roma: Papillon "Kyoto Copenhagen Capri" Takako Minekawa: Fantastic Voyage "Fun9" Luminous Orange: Fresh Berry Soup "Kyoto Copenhagen Capri" Yukari Fresh And Schoniff Singers: If You Love Something "Montecarlo Luton Cadaquez" Pizzicato 5: World Is Spinning At 45 rpm "Happy End Of The World" Bridge: Soft Cream Whistle "Montecarlo Luton Cadaquez" Pizzicato 5: Tout Tour Pour Ma Cherie "Hommage A Polnareff" Thanks for reading, and thanks for listening. We'll be back with more testosterone next week... cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James" Subject: Sv: (exotica)Wine Glasses Date: 11 Mar 2001 13:01:49 +0100 There was some Danish guy touring the "Floorshow" circuit in the 50´s and made appearences in hotels around Europe. I found his name in the archives of the Danish museum of musical history about 10 years ago while I was trying to find a theremin or a glass organ to borrow for my band. At that time I was into "ethermusic" and was fascinated by the glassorgan invented by Benjamin Franklin. The glass organ was a bunch of glass plates in different sizes hung on a roll much like records in old jukeboxes. You use Your feet to make them spin and after dipping Your finger in water You play the thing. It was meant primarily for playing sacred music (hymns and psalms) but was soon banned for being demonic as many a player went insane after having played the thing for years. It was believed that the heavenly sounds of the organ was the work of the devil. In reality the high amount of quicksilver in glass at that time was the reason to the players going insane. Mozart has composed for the glassorgan and so have other prominent composers of that time. I´m afraid I can´t remember the name of the Danish glass player but I´m sure that a search on glass organs will send You in the right directionn. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: (exotica) off-topic MAC query for Bag@hubris.net Date: 11 Mar 2001 10:06:37 -0500 > I'm trying to help our friends with the Netscape problem, and I suspect > Zapping the PRAM and rebuilding the desktop will help, but I forget how to > do these things as i have not had a mac for a few years now. I'm neither Mac user nor fan of Microsoft, but I can say the best thing I ever did to stop my computer from crashing on a regular basis was dump Netscpe and use Internet Explorer. I went one step further and dumped Wordperfect and Lotus for the Microsoft suite. The problem is each of these products competes with the already established Windows sytem for resources. The end result of this change is no more crashing but a large learning curve. I don't think a Mac behaves any differently in this respect but I leave that to the Mac users to confirm. Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: re: (exotica) Disappearing Records Date: 11 Mar 2001 11:10:30 -0500 Steve wrote: > Turntables are still being made for as low as a couple hundred > bucks new, and you can get good deals on used ones at ebay. Other than some DJ brands or very high end there is little being produced. I don't argue you can get good deals on them and even outside of Ebay. > >records are for the most part no longer produced. > That really doesn't bother me much, because interesting music > is no longer produced for the most part either. I agree with Moritz as for me this is simply untrue. More later. > I don't see records in retail stores, except for expensive specialty > shops. But they are at just about every garage sale, library book > sale and swap meet I go to. You just need to plug in to the right > places to look. I think you misunderstand me. I look for vinyl solely in used record stores and there is no shortage of the stuff, just a shortage of quality stuff. As for garage sales you have to get to them before the dealers and as anyone who has held a garage sale knows, they tend to arrive before you open or the day before. Swap meets are not common in Canada and that's a shame if you ask me. One of the more enjoyable things about the US! Still I think you get my point. > I can still find piles of 78s, and they haven't been made since the > early 60s, so I wouldn't throw out that turntable yet. Even the stores I go to that are literally huge rooms full of vinyl don't stock 78's. Oh sure you can find them in places, but odds are there is even less quality stuff now than ever as even more years of picking over have depleted what are essentially finite supplies. However, I did a bit of research yesterday as I promised a fellow list member I'd loook for a certain Disney record. I hit the best places in town for vinyl and sifted through 5 - 6 thousand LPs. Instead of finding a number of OK things (only 1 copy of Binbo Jet, Moritz) I found nothing whatsoever of interest. Sure, a lot of Lucien Hetu and even a few Rene Simard (The Donny Osmond of Quebec) but really nothing much else. In fact one the granddaddy of them all, Marche des disques. was closing out and I found nothing at all. No I'm quite certain that the used store carrying vinyl is about to disappeaer. I asked Richard, the owner of the best store in town, and he conformed that the past few years have been a struggle for him, both to find anything interesting to sell, and to be able to move his stock. But the good news is while I was in his store, the only one I actually go to regularly, I found something to buy and had never come across any of the three either: Frank David Selection - Blues & Electronics (BASF, 1972) It's essentially a Blues/Jazz record with Moog sounds! Moog by Okko (I assume that's Okko Bekker!). This is the same label that released some of the rarest and most highly prized recordings from the mostly German Progeressive rock scene. (CDN $12) Sid Bass - Moog Espana (RCA, 1969) - Well its exactly what it says... Spanish music done with the Moog. The Moog tracks were supposedly programmed by Bob Moog himself according to the notes. This is an American production and its odd I've never come across this record before. (CDN $12) Lester Lanin - ...Play The Madison Avenue Beat (Epic, no date) - The record is Lester and orchestra playing music from 58 radio and TV commercials. I don't recognize many of the product associations, as they probably pre-date my TV (and obviously radio!) days but this is one solid record reminiscent of Music for TV Dinners! (CDN $8) I have really for the most part stopped looking for vinyl, other than in places I normally shop, ie places where the store owners know what their buying. Here I know I'll be paying more than thrift store prices but not pay Ebay prices. To answer Steve I surely won't throw out my turntable, at least not while I have 2000 plus vinyl records. Its just that I don't think I'll be adding to the collection anymore in any significant way. I did well these past years and Alan and Mortitz can both attest to the offerings that we have here. I think a page is about to turn though as many of the last holdout used stores finally go out of the vuinyl business. In high rent cities like Boston or New York I can see the pressure being even greater. Its coming... there's no denying it... simple economics. But unlike Steve I don't worry as there IS so much good new stuff out there! I think I've mentioned this before, how this is one of the nost creative periods I've lived through, certainly the strongest since the the heady days of the 1975-79 New Wave! Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappearing Records Date: 11 Mar 2001 11:11:16 -0500 Magnus wrote: > Now when I had my psychosis I experienced a nazi takeover... I have > even dreamt of meeting Hitler, I walked up to him and asked him: "Mr > Hitler, wouldn't it be nicer if we all loved each other instead of > hating?" My mind just couldnt give an answer to that so I awoke. Sounds like waking up was the best thing because you may not have liked the answer! I know its a serious subject to joke about but we talk about what makes one laugh. I howled over this one as I tried to envision Hitler having a conversation in Swedish.... then I immediately thought of Eliart Pilarm as the Swedish Elvis and my first thought was what about an equally unlikely thing as a Swedish Hitler... OK we don't all laugh at the same things but Alan did want to know what makes people laugh. I'll shut up now. Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: robert blahut Subject: (exotica) tipsy remix cd Date: 11 Mar 2001 11:23:20 -0600 Say! who is the person on the list that made me a Tipsy remix cd. i never got to thank them because it arrived at a point in time while i was going through a rough bout of depression. i would like to thank the person, and add that i am doing much, much better thanks to medication and therapy. i would also add that i really do enjoy the disk very much and that i am looking forward to new tipsy. i would also add that i would really like suggestions of bands (or individuals) that do something similar to tipsy. a sort of triphop/lounge remix thing (trilounghop???) thanks again to the person that made the disk and thanks to everyone on the exotica list, without your posts i really may have slipped away from this mortal coil. this list kept me grounded through a very difficult period and i am grateful. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappearing Records Date: 11 Mar 2001 19:08:31 +0100 (CET) citerar Brian : I know its a serious subject to joke about but we talk about what > makes one laugh. I howled over this one as I tried to envision Hitler > having a conversation in Swedish.... then I immediately thought of Eliart > Pilarm as the Swedish Elvis and my first thought was what about an equally > unlikely thing as a Swedish Hitler I actually can laugh at all the trouble I had, but it sure felt like a reality back then. The atmosphere around me was against me. Doh! Picture from the Eilert concert can be viewed on my webpage where I have my review, or report or what you want to call it!: http://www.bellybongo.com/reviews/images/eilert_live.html Take a look at it! Amazing shot! Eilert the rockstar! Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: Re: (exotica) the king of the minimum ebay bids Date: 11 Mar 2001 18:16:21 -0000 of course, the sad thing is that a few of those records look damn fine (i.e. "The Cool Scene"), but they're beyond my pockets too. There's barely anyone buying his records -- of course -- and he'd probably make more in the long run if he lowered his opening bids by half. i think that sometimes bidders just plain don't want to be beaten by another bidder and then bidding wars ensue and sellers profit. bidders sometimes get caught up in the desire to "win" at the competition that is the eBay auction, but this really only works if bids can accrue from low to high. or not... jb >From: alan zweig > http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=collectlps&include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25 > >Check out this guy's auctions if you want to see the principle of high >minimum bids in action. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Hodge" Subject: Re: (exotica) Hefti - How to murder your wife Date: 11 Mar 2001 18:28:30 -0000 Br Cleve to the rescue again! What a great list...really, really helpful. Although as you point out they're going to cost me a pretty penny! I actually have the mad, mad world of soundtracks LP. It's excellent. I've heard that Volume 2 is going to be out soon. Is this correct? -----Original Message----- >on 3/11/01 5:30 AM, Paul Hodge at paul.hodge@virgin.net wrote: > > >> Can you recommend any more 'now sound' OSTs? > >the greatest NS track of them all is Bedazzled, but it's extrodinarily hard >to find and almost always priced in the $150-400 range these days. > >off the top of my head, these have at least one NS or funky track - > >Prudence & The Pill >The Adventurers >Modesty Blaze >Guess Who's Coming To Dinner >The Moment of Truth >Marry Me, Marry Me >Seven Golden Men >Le Mans >I'll Never Forget Whatsisname >Otley >Up The Down Staircase >Barbarella >You Only Love Once >The Happening >In Like Flint >Our Man Flint >His Wife's Habit >On Any Sunday >Three Days of the Condor >The Harrad Experiment >Hannibal Brooks >Follow Me >Goodbye Columbus >Sweden Heaven & Hell >Brewster McCloud >Smashing Time >The Party >The Italian Job >An Elephant Called Slowly >La Planete Sauvage >Baby The Rain Must Fall >They Came To Rob Las Vegas >Murderer's Row > >there's more, but that's all I can think of now. Look for the 3 volumes of >"Groovy Soundtracks" bootlegs, get "The Mad Mad World of Soundtracks" disc >and book,and then fill your wallet up with lots of cash and start hunting >these baby's down > >br cleve > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: (exotica) robbing las vegas Date: 11 Mar 2001 19:38:26 -0000 hello, you mentioned this in your list to Paul: > >They Came To Rob Las Vegas do you have a copy of this one? would you be willing to CDR it for a trade? I've been searching a long time for it. have I asked you this before?? jeez, I hope not. i've been asking everyone for it. I feel like some soundtrack-junkied Ancient Mariner bothering wedding guests with his tale of woe... j _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: (exotica) Tomorrow's "Back-Ward" Playlist, March 11 Date: 11 Mar 2001 19:55:52 -0000 The Back-Ward can be heard Monday afternoons from 2:00 pm to 3:00 pm EST on CFRU 93.3fm in Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Comments & questions welcome. The show is also available in RealAudio. Click on "Listen to us live via the net" at: http://www.uoguelph.ca/~cfru-fm/ tomorrow's show: THE MONKS - "Monk Time", from 'Black Monk Time' NIGEL SIMPKINS - "Times Encounter" LES MALEDICTUS SOUND - "Kriminal Theme" PETER THOMAS SOUND ORCHESTRA - "Der Hexer" MORT GARSON - "Leave the Driving to Us", from 'Wozard of IZ' LORNE GREENE - "Sand", from 'Welcome to the Ponderosa' LEE HAZELWOOD - "Pour Man", from 'Love and Other Crimes' MORGAN - "of Dreams" LALO SCHIFRIN - "Dissolving", from 'Whole Lalo Schifrin' Goin On' FRIENDSOUND - "Joyride", from 'Joyride' GAL COSTA - "Objeto Sim, Objeto Nao", from 'Gal' JOHN SIMON - "Freakout", from 'You Are What You Eat' OST MARSHALL McCLUHAN & QUENTIN FIORE - excerpt from 'Medium is the Massage' lp MAGAZINE - "The Light Pours Out of Me", from 'Real Life' THE SLEEPERS - "Theory", from 'Less an Object' "The Back-Ward" is a show featuring cool soundtracks from the 60's and 70's; exotica; lounge; now-sounds; incredibly-strange; tropicalia; forgotten country and western; obscure garage & psychedelia; funk/70's instro'; moog; early high-brow electronic; industrial and/or post-punk from the late 70's/early 80's. More recent material may creep in from time to time. thanks for reading and/or listening jb _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) Re: my day for ebay references Date: 11 Mar 2001 12:09:51 -0800 I watched Barbarella on TV last night and I thought maybe I would be willing to pay a little money for a copy of the record. So I come across this auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1414875296 The description of the condition is what killed me. The guy wants minimally 45 bucks for the record but says the marks on the record don't affect the play "appreciably". Then he says "Great file copy". Har de har har. Sure. It plays okay. If you have two copies, this could be the copy you don't play. Just file it away. It'll cost you 56 dollars with shipping. AZ - And the irony about this is that someone who hasn't done their research will pay a lot of money for a poor copy of this instead of a few bucks for the reissue that's been floating around for a few years. But then again, I guess that's just kind of funny, someone profiting off of someone's ignorance... Am I bad? Okay. But what exactly is the purpose of a "file copy" of a record? Something you spend a lot of money on to just look at and wonder about? I don't get it. I get spending a dollar on a record in a thrift that you wonder about that isn't in great shape to see if it's something you want to look for in good shape, but I don't get spending $45 or more on something you can't even really play. Unlucky --- Mr. Unlucky presents Shoot To Kill, a weekly set of jazz, soundtrack music, Now Sound, and the occasional foray into international territory on Supersphere.com, Thursdays 1-2 p.m. (CST). Many past sets are archived for future listening pleasure. http://www.supersphere.com Get 250 color business cards for FREE! at Lycos Mail http://mail.lycos.com/freemail/vistaprint_index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) Re: Milano, Italy Date: 11 Mar 2001 23:02:09 +0000 > From: Hemmel@gmx.net > Subject: (exotica) What is happening in Milano, Italy ? > > A friend of mine (Julia, a very nice person) will stay the next time in > Milano for a practical course. > Can someone recommend her interesting things like night live/clubs (she > likes brasil, organ grovves etc.) and modern art. ? > Isn't the home from SCHEMA Records Milano ? so where do they play there > fantastic records ? Well, I'm not really updated on what's goin' on up there, even though Bologna is just 2 hours away, but I would suggest to check the "Tunnel" club. Jap DJ Gak Sato used to play sets there. Milan is hometown of the Easy Tempo label (not of Schema, which is from Bari) and I am sure the label runs monthly nights in clubs. Pretty big city with much night action, so I believe your friend will easily find her cup of tea. Ciao Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Swingin' Shepherd Blues Date: 11 Mar 2001 07:51:58 -0600 WOW, as always, Alan, you are full of the best information. I knew I mispelled his name when I wrote it, but forgot to correct it. I'm not even a teenager and I think you're cool cuz you lived next door to him (actually, you're cool cuz you're YOU). Hopefully, I can find more of his stuff. Thanks for the info. Starstruck in Texas, Colleen Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Swingin' Shepherd Blues Date: 11 Mar 2001 07:56:40 -0600 Once again if anybody=92s got a functional 8 track and wants it let me know. ************************* Is there a functioning 8 track left in the world? Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "basic hip" Subject: (exotica) Barbarella on Design and a couple more groovy soundtracks Date: 11 Mar 2001 19:32:13 -0800 I've never seen this one - I'll bet it's pretty good too: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1415695987 too bad "lp-cover-lover" is bidding on it, he usually is willing to pay whatever it takes to get what he wants. More groovy soundtrack suggestions: Try "Treasure of San Gennaro" by Armando Trovajoli - check the spelling on that, different than what's on Seven Golden Men http://www.basichip.com/covers/treasure.jpg thats Senta Berger on the cover Or I Love You Alice B Toklas - no individual tracks on that record, but they do stop and start.. Vic Mizzy's "Don't Make Waves" (Make Love) has some swinging Malibu go go sounds on it.. I recall a couple of really cool tracks on "No Way to Treat A Lady" by Stanley Myers...his "Kaleidoscope" is great too.. How about Giggling Girls from the "What A Way to Go!" Nelson Riddle score? I love soundtracks, even though sometimes you only get a small handful of decent tracks, maybe less. Great suggestions everyone, I've updated my wish list. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obits] John Elliot Sutherland, Frankie Carle, Ted McMichael Date: 11 Mar 2001 22:45:54 -0500 LOS ANGELES (AP) - John Elliot Sutherland, an acclaimed industrial and educational filmmaker whose subjects ranged from cancer to steel-making, died Feb. 17. He was 90. Sutherland began making training films for the military during World War II. He went on to produce about 20 movies each year, including ``A Is for Atom'' for General Electric and ``The Spray's the Thing'' for DuPont. In 1957, Time magazine called him one of the top creators of industrial shorts. One of Sutherland's best-known works was his award-winning ``Rhapsody of Steel'' for U.S. Steel, a 1959 Technicolor epic with music by Dmitri Tiomkin and the Pittsburgh Symphony. NEW YORK (AP) - Frankie Carle, a big-band leader best known for ``Sunrise Serenade,'' died Wednesday. He was 97. Carle, who died in Mesa, Ariz., reached the high point of his popularity during World War II, when he was the focus of a bidding war among bands. His repertory was wide, ranging from classics like a revival of Stephen Foster's ``Swanee River,'' to a World War II release that anticipated the Allied victory called ``I'm Going to See My Baby.'' Although Carle's music did not rank high on record industry charts after the 1940s, he still toured and played concerts into the 1980s, some 70 years after he began his musical career. CAMARILLO, Calif. (AP) -- Ted McMichael, a founder of the popular 1940s quartet the Merry Macs, has died of pneumonia. He was 92. McMichael died at St. John's Pleasant Valley Hospital on Feb. 27, said his niece, Nelda McMichael Gruenthal. The Merry Macs had several Top 10 hits including ``Mairzy Doats,'' ``Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition'' and ``Sentimental Journey.'' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ashleywarren1@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) my day for ebay references Date: 11 Mar 2001 23:37:46 EST In a message dated 3/10/01 9:48:24 PM EST, cheryls@dsuper.net writes: << This one's been "reissued" - it shows up from time to time at Dusty Groove - it'll cost around $15 bucks with shipping, I think... And it's on red vinyl... cheryl >> If this is from the same source that the CD version is from it was bootlegged from a copy of the record with a lot of surface noise. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappearing Records Date: 12 Mar 2001 11:28:01 +0100 Brian schrieb: > > >records are for the most part no longer produced. > > That really doesn't bother me much, because interesting music > > is no longer produced for the most part either. > I agree with Moritz as for me this is simply untrue. More later. Brian... nobody is interested in this, even those who originally posted to this. ZERO reaction on almost anything interesting. I really feel like Jack Diamond now, like giving giving giving and never getting anything back. All I can say on this subject is, that there are loads of interesting new productions out there and the fact that someone just doesn't care and doesn't listen to the stuff, doesn't allow him to state, that there isn't anything at all or that music was better then. Close your ears, zip your Zombie and live in a dream world in the past. > I hit the best places in town > for vinyl and sifted through 5 - 6 thousand LPs. Instead of finding a > number of OK things (only 1 copy of Bimbo Jet, Moritz) I found nothing > whatsoever of interest. I hope you bought the Bimbo Jet! just before I left Montreal last year I found this one record shop (the one upstairs that also sold sex magazines) stuffed with tons of records and only because I already knew I wouldn't be able to carry home one single more record I didn't go into details there. They had incredible stuff though. Have you ever checked that shop out? Did it close down? Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... n.e.u. Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sem Sinatra Subject: (exotica) Jonny "Delicado" Perl address Date: 12 Mar 2001 01:06:07 +0900 did the person who was searching for this find it? If not I can probably at least pass on their mail address to him. Has he left the list? Sem Sinatra, Agent Osaka # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sem Sinatra Subject: (exotica) Off topic Mac problems Date: 12 Mar 2001 01:18:49 +0900 Zapping the PRAM: To reset PRAM: 1. Restart your computer and immediately hold down these keys: Option + Apple + R + P (Make sure the Caps Lock key is not engaged.) 2. Hold the keys down until you hear the startup sound a second time, then release the keys. 3. If you had special settings in any control panels, open those control panels to restore the settings you want. rebuilding the desktop: start up computer holding Option + Apple down together Good luck! friendly, Sem Sinatra Agent Osaka # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "christie j. white" Subject: (exotica) Elvis impersonator Date: 12 Mar 2001 09:55:54 -0500 Just thought I would share this with you Magnus. Your review of the Eilert Pilarm concert was great!! I wish I was there smoking a cigarette and snaking through the crowd with all the laughs and woo's. This guy is truly amazing! He has so much talent. He is a true performer. He really doesn't have a cheezy side to the show at all. Just one song into the set and you see that this guy has talent of his own, the Elvis thing is purely a plus!! Lou Vuto is the new KING!! www.memoriestheatre.com Everyone enjoy! Kiliki # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Elvis impersonator Date: 12 Mar 2001 16:27:06 +0100 (CET) citerar "christie j. white" : > > Just thought I would share this with you Magnus. Your review of the Eilert > Pilarm concert was great!! I wish I was there smoking a cigarette and > snaking through the crowd with all the laughs and woo's. > > This guy is truly amazing! He has so much talent. He is a true performer. > He really doesn't have a cheezy side to the show at all. Just one song > into > the set and you see that this guy has talent of his own, the Elvis thing is > purely a plus!! Lou Vuto is the new KING!! > www.memoriestheatre.com > > Everyone enjoy! > > Kiliki I have added your link to my Eilert Pilarm page, thanks, I wish I could hear Lou Vuto. Thanks also for liking my review, it is so fun getting feedback when you sit writing on a thing for an hour. Actually, for me it is not that easy getting the english right. Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nicola Battista (Dj Batman)" Subject: (exotica) Emusic free albums Date: 12 Mar 2001 16:48:04 +0100 thought this might be of interest... Emusic http://www.emusic.com/ is giving one free album downloadable, apprently you only need to give them an email and a password... bye, Nicola DjB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chuck Subject: (exotica) Re: and a couple more groovy soundtracks Date: 12 Mar 2001 08:12:19 -0800 (PST) I really have enjoyed the Alice B Toklas soundtrack! Its great all the way to the end! Kaleidoscope also has some wonderful cuts on it. I highly recommend getting them both. They have been put out as a twofer on that German Label, Two Little Kooks and its available from http://www.jackdiamond.com Easy Listening in the Big Easy Chuck --- basic hip wrote:More groovy soundtrack suggestions: > > Or I Love You Alice B Toklas - no individual tracks on that > record, but they > do stop and start.. > > Vic Mizzy's "Don't Make Waves" (Make Love) has some swinging > Malibu go go > sounds on it.. > > I recall a couple of really cool tracks on "No Way to Treat A > Lady" by > Stanley Myers...his "Kaleidoscope" is great too.. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bonita Kelso Subject: Re: (exotica) Barbarella on Design Date: 12 Mar 2001 08:51:44 -0800 (PST) --- basic hip wrote: > > I've never seen this one - I'll bet it's pretty good > too: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1415695987 I have this one--strangely enough, I got it at the same annual used book/record/magazine sale where I got the original Barbarella ST two years earlier. How weird is that? It's (dare I say it?) loungey, heavy on the organ instrumental covers of a few tracks from Barbarella (the title theme, and "An Angel is Love" naturally, as well as tracks like "The Black Queen's Beads"). The rest of the album is the same jazzed up versions of classical standards recycled on those Design label spy albums like "Thunderball" and "Mission: Impossible" (which has a great cover of the "Star Trek" theme). It's a great little oddity, but not worth 8 bucks, IMO. Then again I don't think I'd pay more than two bucks for any album on the Design label. One of my favorite 60s soundtracks is "Don't Make Waves" by Vic Mizzy. It was reissued in the 80s, so it's not that hard to find. Like most of Mr. Mizzy's work, it's chock full of fuzztone guitars and farfisa (or is it farafisa?) organs. I could play "Daybreak at Malibu" a thousand times and never get tired of it. mucho gusto, Bonitarella __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Vaclav Nelhybel Date: 12 Mar 2001 19:04:30 +0100 (CET) Vaclav Nelhybel- "Outer Space Music". Folkways FTS 33440 1959 Does someone know anything about this record? Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappearing Records Date: 12 Mar 2001 14:43:01 -0500 At 11:28 AM 3/12/01 +0100, Moritz R wrote: .> >Brian... nobody is interested in this, even those who originally posted to this. ZERO reaction on almost anything interesting. I really feel like Jack Diamond now, like giving giving giving and never getting anything back.. Moritz, you ROCK! You are the the REAL SHIT! You are the number one, TEN OUT OF TEN STARS, A-1 contributor! (That was my Jack Diamond imitation in case you didn't notice.) There's something strange about complaining about apathy on a generally apathetic list. It is what it is. The old days are gone and they ain't coming back. If you want to express yourself, go ahead. If you need your self-expression to generate discussion, you probably shouldn't bother. It's funny how a mailing list can make you feel like Jesus. But maybe that's just my complex. I've got the Christ complex, you've got the Diamond complex. The exotica list is not the list you remember or the list you joined. And it never will be again. The balance is delicate. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chuck Subject: (exotica) The New Tipsy Date: 12 Mar 2001 12:00:43 -0800 (PST) "Uh-0h" by Tipsy, (Asphodel 2001) This is the best release of 2001! Tipsy have pulled out all the sample punches on this. I am stumped so far but recognize a few samples. Every song on it is chock full of fade-in/fade-out samples dazzling the eardrums to ecstasy. Trippy floaty music with nearly apparent melodies that you can't quite hum. The first song "Hard Petting" is the "big hit" with a "bullet" if all was perfect in the music biz. But every song on this album is a wonderful musical ride. Fans of the first album will be relieved to find out Tipsy have kept their sound. In fact, Tipsy has pulled of one of the nicer occurrences in music, their second album is better than their first. In thirty years they will be playing this at Tommorowland in Disney World. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.R. Rolya" Subject: Re: (exotica)Wine Glasses Date: 12 Mar 2001 15:01:54 -0500 Peter writes: >looking for music played on (water-filled) wine glasses. >Anyone have any urls, cd names, suggestions? An interesting recent release is Angus Maclaurin's "Glass Music" on Bubblecore (www.bubblecore.com). He records to tapes and then loops them together for a very hypnotic sound. I saw him live at the Knitting Factory a few months ago and it was quite mesmerizing. - BR # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Hall Subject: (exotica) RE: Barbarella, Kaleidoscope Date: 12 Mar 2001 15:18:13 -0500 I picked this up the Barbarella er... "reissue," awhile back & returned it (mentioned here); not so much a prob with the surface noise (clicks & pops are not so bad imho), but the whole recording had a brittle quality that made it hard to enjoy - possibly due to some crappy noise reduction process. I ended up finding a pricey-but-relatively-cheap (as far as I've seen) copy last year with a little wear on the cover but the vinyl was fine. Found the Kaleidoscope LP last year on vaca in Asheville NC. Wasn't familiar, but it had a swingin' 60's look & a sitar credit, which was all I needed; I remember taking it home & hoping "please do not let the sitar / table sections be traditional Indian music, but rather let them be the work of Indian musicians trying to make sense of western I-IV-V type progressions over groovy period go-go beats," & verily I was not disappointed. gh Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:37:46 EST From: Ashleywarren1@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) my day for ebay references If this is from the same source that the CD version is from it was bootlegged from a copy of the record with a lot of surface noise. Ashley Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:12:19 -0800 (PST) From: Chuck > Subject: (exotica) Re: and a couple more groovy soundtracks I really have enjoyed the Alice B Toklas soundtrack! Its great all the way to the end! Kaleidoscope also has some wonderful cuts on it. I highly recommend getting them both. They have been put out as a twofer on that German Label, Two Little Kooks and its available from http://www.jackdiamond.com Easy Listening in the Big Easy Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour Date: 12 Mar 2001 14:49:34 -0600 There's a little bit of everything in this week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast. You'll find Latin-flavored Now Sounds by Nelson Riddle, Edmundo Ros and Claus Ogerman, among others; jungle jazz from John McFarland's rare "Provocatif" and Augie Colon's "Chant of the Jungle"; great crime jazz from German movie thrillers; outer space pop from Paul Tanner, Jimmie Haskell and Louis Prima(!); plus Montefiori Cocktail's spaghetti western-ish spin on the "Star Wars" theme; Ralph Alfonso's ode to Chet Baker's cigarette; tunes by Les Baxter, Cal Tjader, Alvino Rey and Dick Schory; plus Leda Annest WAILS on the classic "Portrait of Leda". To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour on the web, just visit: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Requires RealPlayer and a minimum 28.8 Internet connection. As always, comments and requests are welcome. Thanks! Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clayton black Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappearing Records Date: 13 Mar 2001 03:57:35 -0500 As one of the newbies to the list, I hope I'm not a part of "the problem," but it seems to me that a shift has taken place that has left the list fractured along several lines. I have the sense that there is a cadre of contributors who have been at this for a long time who are tired of the "favorite covers, albums, groups, etc." and "what I just found" discussions and who are more interested in digging out obscure groups and sounds wherever they lurk. Among them are those for whom the music is at the center of their lives--more than just a hobby, it's a profession (or at least part of one)--and the kings of space-age pop no longer hold the (forgive me) exotic thrill that they once did. Then there are the people like me, who "dabble," and who want to contribute, but who feel a bit out of their league. A lot of lurkers have come out of the woodwork momentarily lately, only to return to their hideaways, perhaps for the same reason that I always lurked. I don't know that there's a solution, but I hope that novices are always welcome. I don't have the resources to go after Korean pop or Japanese soundtracks, but I do enjoy hearing about them. I don't ever go to nightclubs or even Tiki/Polynesian restaurants, but your discussions allow me a bit of vicarious fun. The recent e-bay discussion generated a flurry of activity, perhaps because that's common ground for just about everybody here (albeit with a variety of opinions). I don't quite know what my point is, only to say that I hope that the "old-timers" can put up with the new folks and that, if there is to be any changing of the guard, that the list continues to be a friendly and entertaining group. And is it really apathy that causes lulls in the list or is it something else? For me it's either a question of time--how much can I put into a lengthy note like this--or of fear--do I really want to go out on a limb on an issue, knowing that I am out of my league in knowledge of exotica? I quit for now. Clayton > From: alan zweig > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:43:01 -0500 > To: Exotica mailing list > Subject: Re: (exotica) Disappearing Records > > There's something strange about complaining about apathy on a generally > apathetic list. It is what it is. The old days are gone and they ain't > coming back. > If you want to express yourself, go ahead. If you need your > self-expression to generate discussion, you probably shouldn't bother. > It's funny how a mailing list can make you feel like Jesus. > But maybe that's just my complex. > I've got the Christ complex, you've got the Diamond complex. > > The exotica list is not the list you remember or the list you joined. And > it never will be again. > > The balance is delicate. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: delicado@cheerful.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Jonny "Delicado" Perl address Date: 12 Mar 2001 16:11:13 -0500 (EST) I am here! Actually, I keep trying to post, but I think I was using the wrong email address, so hopefully this will work. I have been frantically buying stuff recently, more so than ever. Here's a summary: - Today the Lalo Schifrin 'marquis de sade' LP arrived... - Last week - 'Follow Me' soundtrack - really amazing stuff, a beautiful mix of now sound, softpop and ambient strings... - Last week - the Hildegard Knef box set - really enjoyable, although her output is so varied in style that I am planning to distil this down into a personal 'best of', which will include her fantastic slightly psychedelic bacharach-style stuff from the late 60s. - Last week - the vhs video of the movie 'smashing time', incredibly silly/slapstick, but very stylish movie starring Rita Tushingham - In general - I'm getting more and more into Brazilian stuff - it turns out that