From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) La cucaracha Date: 01 Jun 2001 09:05:51 > >Ok the solution of the enigmatic translation is this: > >Pata is what the cucaracha is lacking, which can be translated as a foot (I >don't know if that's the word for insect's legs). But then again pata is >what people call the last tiny bit a joint, like a roach? >But if you are looking for second meanings a more obvious one, and working fine in Spanish, is sexual. Cucaracha is a very common slang word for female genitalia. > >And that part where the cucaracha (it's a feminine word in Spanish) but the words for male and female genitalia in most English languages (following the practice of Romanian, and therefore most probably proto-indoeuropean) are reversed eg. pollo - chicken polla (pola (rom.))- penis, le cons (fr)- um, twat actually is probably the best translation. And you can keep on going. Are you Spanish? As I was saying in an earlier post the common version in Spanish refers to missing a leg rather than marijuana. However I love the leg/roach/marijuana slippage. Quite beautiful. Should make it into an instrumental. kneels down and shows her 'cucaracha' makes it quite obvious. > >Cheers, >Manuel Thanks for the info. rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) alternative to jewel cases Date: 01 Jun 2001 10:41:01 +0100 MAces excellent linkalog site had these two locations recently for Origami CD cases. They're pretty good, easy to do, stylish and with or without spines, ITS YOUR FOLDING CHOICE. I've adapted one of them for putting images in as well, but its so crude, I'm sure you can do it yourself. Linkalog: http://www.workspot.net/~linkalog/cgi-bin/guestbook.cgi?view PDF version http://www.papercdcase.com/ The original and genuine http://web.merrimack.edu/~thull (although it wasn't working when I just checked, its probably early over there and they could have been tinkering with the network. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The Stare # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) James Last and beautiful instrumentals Date: 01 Jun 2001 12:14:11 +0200 alan zweig schrieb: > At 12:48 AM 6/1/01 +0200, Moritz R wrote: > > > >This "other list" shit is beginning to make me sick. > > This "other country" shit makes me sick but if I can tolerate all you > non-Canadians, certainly you can tolerate references to other lists. Of > course I sympathize with you on some level given that those other lists > have all banned you from their ranks. I know that you said "I don't want > to be on those lists anyway" but still it must have hurt when they told you > that you're just not "beautiful instrumental material". > I'll try to avoid references to them in the future. Nationalism remains a mystery to me, but what made me sick was this pretentious mystery-mongering of referring to an "other list" and never saying which list exactely this was, as if it was some oh-so-important secret thing that bad boys like you are into, contrary to the other slowpokes from the exotica list who will never be able to catch up with it. And your comment only confirms it. Maybe you are just bored and try to beat out some revolutionary content out of a dullhead like James Hanswurst Last. Yeah, bad music is successful, how enlightening! Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: (exotica) just testing Date: 01 Jun 2001 13:00:26 +0100 Ignore this. Thanks. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) James Last and beautiful instrumentals Date: 01 Jun 2001 09:12:16 -0400 And Alan was getting bored with this list...I guess it was just because Mo was on vacation. Nice to see things back to normal around here... And the "other list" is called "Beautiful Instrumentals" - I don't think it was a secret - either Alan didn't want to offend anyone else from it who might be on the exotica list, and really like cheesy instrumental music, or else he was just ashamed to admit he was on that list! cheryl (also on "the other list" temporarily, but I find it hard to believe people take "Hansi" seriously...) > Nationalism remains a mystery to me, but what made me sick was this pretentious mystery-mongering of referring to an "other list" and never saying which list exactely this was, as if it was some oh-so-important secret thing that bad boys like you are into, contrary to the other slowpokes from the exotica list who will never be able to catch up with it. And your comment only confirms it. Maybe you are just bored and try to beat out some revolutionary content out of a dullhead like James Hanswurst Last. Yeah, bad music is successful, how enlightening! > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Big Kahuna and the Copa Cat Pack Date: 01 Jun 2001 08:21:17 -0500 >Just received today from Concord Records..."Shake Those Hula >Hips", the second release by Big Kahuna and the Copa Cat Pack And I forgot to add...a cool tiki cover by Shag. Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) Guantanamera Date: 01 Jun 2001 10:02:31 -0400 (EDT) "Guantanamera" was written and composed by Jose Marti, considered the great national poet of Cuba. It was first written around the time the U.S. came in and concocted an excuse to kick the Spanish out of Cuba and take it over as a colony (sorry, protectorate). The song was one of the nationalistic rallying cries that kept the Cuban independence movement going for several decades. Brad spaceagepop@earthlink.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Hall Subject: (exotica) RE: Puff the Magic Whatever, Dude Date: 01 Jun 2001 10:33:09 -0400 I'd heard that about "Puff," in the context of 60's songs accused of harboring hidden pro-drug content. Something to the effect of "In the hysteria over supposed drug references that led to the Byrds' '8 Miles High' being banned from many markets, even so inocuous a song as 'Puff, the Magic Dragon' was cited as being about marijuana..." And I remember thinking "Puff the Magic Dragon a drug song? That's a reach - sheesh, people must've been pretty hysterical at that time." But then a few years later I heard the song on the radio & thought... "Now what's up with the boy's name, 'Little Jackie Papers'? gh > Some year ago I learned that the song was about marijuana, is that > right? It would definetely explain a lot. "Puff the Magic Dragon" was =), but I just looked up the lyrics above and I can't see any herbal essence to it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) Download a Theremin Date: 01 Jun 2001 11:04:44 -0400 http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/playground/theremin1.shtml # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Mas Que Nada (sp?) Date: 01 Jun 2001 11:29:58 -0400 Anybody else heard the (boring) new "cool jazz" version of this? I thought they said it was Hancock but I missed the announcement..... - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Salvation Army, the reprieve Date: 01 Jun 2001 10:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Ok, after my apocalyptic ravings on this topic I thought I should mention that on my trip this afternoon, my 1st in a couple of days (they're across the street from the Pancake Barn, where I work), I found that they had put out more lps (and the manager brought me another box to go through. I bought 25 records, $25. Many in plastic, all in great shape. A partial list: Bond STs (stereo): Casino Royale, Dr No, On HMSS, From Russia with Love, You Only Live Twice (all upgrades, except for CR, my 1st copy of which I bought sealed). Bernie Green: Futura (Stero Action Die cut, in plastic) Marty Gold: It's Magic (Stero Action Die cut, in plastic) Juan Serrano: Ole, La Mano Maurice Jarre: Lawrence of Arabia ST (uses the onde martinote and cithare). Historical Masters of the Blues, 1928-1940 Lead Belly: Huddy Leadbetter's Best (Capitol) Billie Holiday: Lady Day Pete Rugolo: Percussion at Work Eddie Layton at the Hammond Organ: Great Organ Hots (cover shot of Eddie sitting on an organ holding a rocket on which reads "Out of this World" - the word "inert", I mention just for fun, is stenciled on the rocket) Elaine Brown/Black Panther Party: Seize the Time (Vault Records... can't wait to spin this one) Finger Poppin' with The Horace Silver Quintet Mallets, Melody & Mayhem: The Exciting Percussion World of Saul Goodman The Poll Winners: Barney Kessel, with Shelly Manne and Ray Brown Sing Along with Basie (and Joe Williams, Dave Lambert, Jon Hendricks, Annie Ross and the Basie Band. Roulette, Dynamic Stereo, Birdland Series) Several Elvis STs Kenny Drew: Undercurrent John Coltrane: Coltrane Plays the Blues Cannonball Adderley: African Waltz (Riverside) The Modern Jazz Quartet and Orchestra Duke Ellington: Ellington Showcase (Capitol) I left enough behind to give someone else a decent picking. This was a dam-burst incident. The manager told me that each area store received a modest shipment because the HQ is swelling with lps, 78s and 45s. There will be no more vinyl manna fallout, however. Apparently "The Major"(it's so cool that they actually do have ranks) is intent on pricing each itenm individually as records are currently "too low dollar turn around" to justify the space they require. can you imagine the task he or she has set for h..self and gruntforce? Or the letdown the effort will be in for. Hard for me to care at the moment as I am looking forward to getting home with this haul that I absolutely have no space for. Insouciantly compulsive, BW ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Salvation Army, the reprieve Date: 01 Jun 2001 14:12:44 -0400 At 10:45 AM 6/1/01 -0700, Ben Waugh wrote: > I bought 25 >records, $25. Many in plastic, all in great shape. A >partial list: >Bernie Green: Futura >Marty Gold: It's Magic >Pete Rugolo: Percussion at Work > >Eddie Layton at the Hammond Organ: Great Organ Hots >Elaine Brown/Black Panther Party: Seize the Time >Finger Poppin' with The Horace Silver Quintet >Mallets, Melody & Mayhem: The Exciting Percussion >World of Saul Goodman >Sing Along with Basie (and Joe Williams, Dave Lambert, Jon Hendricks, Annie Ross and the Basie Band. >Kenny Drew: Undercurrent >John Coltrane: Coltrane Plays the Blues >Cannonball Adderley: African Waltz (Riverside) >The Modern Jazz Quartet and Orchestra That's quite a score! Exotica classics and jazz classics in the same box?? I've never seen anything like this in any thrift store anywhere in my life. It goes against all thrift store logic. I have to forget I ever read this. Sure I could imagine finding a Stereo Action and for sure the Eddie Layton but the Black Panther record or Horace Silver or Coltrane. Okay maybe I find one jazz record occasionally. I once found a Mingus record. One George Russel. But no, I cannot accept this. It's not that I don't believe you. I just have to believe that it was such an anomaly that it will never be repeated again. Not that I particularly want any of those records at this moment but if I saw them in a thrift store, I would certainly buy them anyway. Where do you live again??? AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Salvation Army, the reprieve Date: 01 Jun 2001 14:12:55 -0400 I'll have to second Alan's surprise at this good fortune! It doesn't happen often! - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) Salvation Army, the reprieve Date: 01 Jun 2001 14:20:11 -0500 What a great haul! I'm especially envious of the Bernie Green and Pete Rugolo finds. I would go for all of the others as well, however. Basie almost never comes up in discussion, but I like every album of his I have. It seems to me he's got a much smoother sound than most of the "big band" artists he gets grouped with. I picked up his album with the hydrogen bomb explosion on the cover several months ago--great stuff. As for the Bond STs, I'm especially partial to the On HMSS title track. As for Eddie Layton, I have "Better Layton than Ever," which I hold on to thinking I might eventually like it, but I never do. I hope his other albums are better. The space theme makes it sound promising. I'm going to be heading to the Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill area for several weeks. I hope I'll have at least some luck at the thrifts in that area. Clayton > From: Ben Waugh > > Bond STs (stereo): Casino Royale, Dr No, On HMSS, From > Russia with Love, You Only Live Twice (all upgrades, > except for CR, my 1st copy of which I bought sealed). > > Bernie Green: Futura (Stero Action Die cut, in > plastic) > > Marty Gold: It's Magic (Stero Action Die cut, in > plastic) > > Juan Serrano: Ole, La Mano > > Maurice Jarre: Lawrence of Arabia ST (uses the onde > martinote and cithare). > > Historical Masters of the Blues, 1928-1940 > > Lead Belly: Huddy Leadbetter's Best (Capitol) > Billie Holiday: Lady Day > > Pete Rugolo: Percussion at Work > > Eddie Layton at the Hammond Organ: Great Organ Hots > (cover shot of Eddie sitting on an organ holding a > rocket on which reads "Out of this World" - the word > "inert", I mention just for fun, is stenciled on the > rocket) > > Elaine Brown/Black Panther Party: Seize the Time > (Vault Records... can't wait to spin this one) > > Finger Poppin' with The Horace Silver Quintet > > Mallets, Melody & Mayhem: The Exciting Percussion > World of Saul Goodman > > The Poll Winners: Barney Kessel, with Shelly Manne and > Ray Brown > > Sing Along with Basie (and Joe Williams, Dave Lambert, > Jon Hendricks, Annie Ross and the Basie Band. > Roulette, Dynamic Stereo, Birdland Series) > Several Elvis STs > > Kenny Drew: Undercurrent > > John Coltrane: Coltrane Plays the Blues > > Cannonball Adderley: African Waltz (Riverside) > > The Modern Jazz Quartet and Orchestra > > Duke Ellington: Ellington Showcase (Capitol) > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obit] Tony Ashton Date: 01 Jun 2001 14:26:57 -0400 http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/4299/ashton.html TONY ASHTON PASSED AWAY PEACEFULLY THIS MORNING (MONDAY 28TH MAY 2001) AT HOME. HIS WIFE SANDRA AND DAUGHTER INDIRA WERE AT HIS SIDE.British keyboard player and singer Tony Ashton was born in Blackburn, Lancashire, and first gained notice when he replaced Don Andrews in The Remo Four, a Liverpool Mersey Beat group. They played on George Harrison's Wonderwall soundtrack, then Ashton and drummer Roy Dyke quit to form Ashton, Gardner & Dyke in 1968, and the trio scored a hit with "Resurrection Shuffle" in 1971, then split up in 1972. Ashton joined Family for a year, and in 1976 was a member of Paice, Ashton And Lord, after which he went into production. http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=B0b6jtr39kl6x # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) Mas Que Nada (sp?) Date: 01 Jun 2001 14:30:49 -0500 "Boring" and "cool jazz" are redundant in my mind, and it pains me to hear that one of my all-time favorite tunes is being handled this way, but then again I like the Hollyridge Strings versions of Beatles tunes, so I shouldn't complain. If this tune's on an album I'll buy it without knowing a thing about the artist. My hands down favorite version is Warren Kime's, and it's one of the few tunes I like on Chris Waxman's "Organized" album. And, as I've mentioned before, Lawrence Welk even does a mean version. It's one of those songs everybody (in the world beyond this list) knows but nobody seems to remember the name to. By the way, is there a "correct" spelling of this title? I've seen it spelled "Mas" and "Mais." Is there some peculiarity of Portuguese we should know about? Clayton > Anybody else heard the (boring) new "cool jazz" version of this? > > I thought they said it was Hancock but I missed the announcement..... > > - Nate > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: (exotica) Leo Muller Date: 01 Jun 2001 19:48:54 +0100 I was clearing out old mails, and spotted this: delicado@cheerful.com wrote: > > D.L. Miller productions- > > I have a couple of interesting UK issue LPs by 'the super guitar of lightnin red' which are DL Miller productions. They are from the early 70s, and are self-conciously funky and twangy. They can get a bit much, but there are some great cuts ('caravan', 'america'). Some have a very vinnie-bell type sound, but I don't think the playing is good enough to be him. ...and interestingly these have come up on another list (no, not *that* other list), so i thought i'd pass on a bit of info. firstly: The UK budget lable Gold Award has some cool Exploit records with breaks and grooves. I have had 4 diffrent ones; Big Jim H, Purple Fox, Lightnin' Red and Funky Junction. Mostly the records consist of covers but there is almost always a groovin' cut or two by Leo Muller. All 4 records have the same studio band, the artists names are just made up. and also: Hi - yes, there's a small article on him inthe latest Mojo "collections" due to the fact he is featured on "a break from the Norm" comp. Apparantly he recorded as DL Miller and Betty George too. He recorded countless albums in almost as many styles. Sadly, he passed away in 1985. I can add that there's about 4 Big Jim H ones, the best track by far being the cover of 'Jungle Fever', proper sleazy stuff, with moaning etc, and he also recorded hawaiian albums, western themes etc under the his real name (Leo Muller). I think the Duke Grant hammond lps could also be him. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Salvation Army, the reprieve Date: 01 Jun 2001 11:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Dear Alan, et al, thanks for your kind words. Yes - I was quite excited & guarded the boxes as I searched like an ill tempered feeding dog. Though it has been awhile since my last, I have had several hauls of this blend and magnitude (best was once when Sun and early Columbia Johnny cash lps turned up with some obscure rockabilly 45s. Last winter a found a boxload of old Verve and Blue Note Jazz lps - but these were not in flawless shape). I think it has much to do with the area where I live: the Virginia suburbs of Washington, DC. In addition to a dusting of Old Dominion aborigines, such as myself, the area is swelling day-by-day with New Yorkers, eh, Canadians, Latin Americans, Asians, etc - bringing with them a variety of tastes and, fortunately for me, excess vinyl. It's a bedouin camp: people moving in and upgrading out by the hour. Factor in an apparently low hipster content and you have an an obsessive's land of the blessed (we will gloss over the scads of strip malls, "townhomes" and pompously ugly McMansions that blot the shining path to the second hand shops). Nearly all these finds are courtesy of the Salvation Army (I forego the pleasure of telling about the silk/rayon deco ties, the 60s Aloha shirts, books...). When the SA cuts out the vinyl - or prices it out of my range (and, by the way, where do they get price guides for the likes of Futura or Mmm Nice?)- I will be cut off, rootless, inconsolable. Most of the smaller thrifts in the area, when they have anything, carry banged up items (most donating people have heard of the Salvation Army, but who has heard of "Millies Treasure Nook, with proceeds going to The Stamp-Out Scrofula Now Society?" Not many, it seems). Another land of milk and records is Littleton, Colorado. Ugly as hell (sorry if any locals are lurking. The Platte River area is beautiful this time of year), but that seems to be part of the magic. Now I have other copies of the Bond, Rugolo and Coltrane stuff - so if anyone wants to swap.... --- alan zweig wrote: > But no, I cannot accept this. It's not that I don't > believe you. I just > have to believe that it was such an anomaly that it > will never be repeated > again. > Not that I particularly want any of those records at > this moment but if I > saw them in a thrift store, I would certainly buy > them anyway. > Where do you live again??? ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Salvation Army, the reprieve Date: 01 Jun 2001 11:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Dear Alan, et al, thanks for your kind words. Yes - I was quite excited & guarded the boxes as I searched like an ill tempered feeding dog. Though it has been awhile since my last, I have had several hauls of this blend and magnitude (best was once when Sun and early Columbia Johnny cash lps turned up with some obscure rockabilly 45s. Last winter a found a boxload of old Verve and Blue Note Jazz lps - but these were not in flawless shape). I think it has much to do with the area where I live: the Virginia suburbs of Washington, DC. In addition to a dusting of Old Dominion aborigines, such as myself, the area is swelling day-by-day with New Yorkers, eh, Canadians, Latin Americans, Asians, etc - bringing with them a variety of tastes and, fortunately for me, excess vinyl. It's a bedouin camp: people moving in and upgrading out by the hour. Factor in an apparently low hipster content and you have an an obsessive's land of the blessed (we will gloss over the scads of strip malls, "townhomes" and pompously ugly McMansions that blot the shining path to the second hand shops). Nearly all these finds are courtesy of the Salvation Army (I forego the pleasure of telling about the silk/rayon deco ties, the 60s Aloha shirts, books...). When the SA cuts out the vinyl - or prices it out of my range (and, by the way, where do they get price guides for the likes of Futura or Mmm Nice?)- I will be cut off, rootless, inconsolable. Most of the smaller thrifts in the area, when they have anything, carry banged up items (most donating people have heard of the Salvation Army, but who has heard of "Millies Treasure Nook, with proceeds going to The Stamp-Out Scrofula Now Society?" Not many, it seems). Another land of milk and records is Littleton, Colorado. Ugly as hell (sorry if any locals are lurking. The Platte River area is beautiful this time of year), but that seems to be part of the magic. Now I have other copies of the Bond, Rugolo and Coltrane stuff - so if anyone wants to swap.... --- alan zweig wrote: > But no, I cannot accept this. It's not that I don't > believe you. I just > have to believe that it was such an anomaly that it > will never be repeated > again. > Not that I particularly want any of those records at > this moment but if I > saw them in a thrift store, I would certainly buy > them anyway. > Where do you live again??? ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Suzie Wong Date: 01 Jun 2001 12:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Looks like I'll be heading back after work. Elvis's Kissin' Cousins ST actually contains George Duning's ST to "The World of Suzie Wong." Anyone know anything about this ST? ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) thrift shop finds Date: 01 Jun 2001 21:42:29 +0200 Munich is always good for a surprise: Guess what: we have a real thrift shop now. the first one that I've ever seen in Germany, no, in Europe! And it's full of records. And today I carried 25 of them home, 50 c each. Among them an album I have been looking for for 15 years: Latin Quarter "Modern Times" with "Radio Africa", a really sad and beautiful song, and the group's only hit. But the album contains some other nice pieces as well, "Toulouse", "America For Beginners", "Eddie" and No Rope As Long As Time". Extraordinary band - whatever happened to them? (just to make Alan jealous:) Mystic Moods double album "Soft Touch", once again easy listening with diverse overdubbed (underdubbed?) sounds, like thunderstorm, frog pond, horse carriage, ship horn etc. An incredible Columbian compilation from 1985 called "Llano Adentro" with original folkloristic music, distinctively different from similar stuff from Mexico and Cuba, sounds like the original latin equivalent of those great latinesque songs by Roy Orbison, like "Pistolero", really nice. Out on a label called Discos Perla, slogan: "disco es cultura" A surprisingly great Samba double album, called "Quero Sambar" by an Orchestra Ipanema. Looked kind of cheap first, but is in fact quite jazzy and sounds amazingly good. A "This is Raymond Lefèvre" sort of best-of album, the guy who composed the music for many Louis de Funès films. (Left a double album by him in the shop for you to find, Martin!) "More Sex in Velvet" by Kookie Freeman & his Velvet Sound, also much better than it first looked. A late album by Space, called "Deliverance". Not quite as great as their big hit "Magic Fly", but for 50 c I always like to check out, what happened to heroes of the past later. Hypgnosis cover. A very strange disco album called "How Much, How Much I Love You" by Love and Kisses. I had to buy it for the cover alone: a naked girl on the back of a horse, taken in a soft David Hamilton style. Has only two songs, one on each side, but it isn't a Maxi single, it's an album and the songs are really 20 minutes each. I have always been looking for contemporary attempts to escape the usual song structure and go into composing an entire "opus" and this gets very close to it. An album called "Munich Latin" and it really is a compilation with Latin bands from Munich from I guess around 1988 or so. Not a mindblowing record, but something for the Munichalia collection. Well, all other albums are discoish stuff, that I don't want to bother you with, as except Jimmy B and Brother Cleve nobody in this list is really interested in disco. Just in short some highlights: "Guilty/Angel Eyes" 12"-45-medley by Lime, "Get Up!" 12"-45 by Technotronic, "Mind Warp" LP by Patrick Cowley (the first man who died of aids, even earlier than Klaus Nomi), "Can We Go" 12"-45 by Electric Mind and an album by a late 70s disco band from Tchecoslovakia, called "Discobolos", which is absolutely weiiiird. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Suzie Wong Date: 01 Jun 2001 15:51:26 -0400 I think you got the better of the deal. Here's the description of an episode of Spinning on Air devoted to Duning, and the link to the show itself. March 3, 2000 http://www.wnyc.org/new/music/spinning/ram/soa030300.ram George Duning's music brought charm and poignancy to such films as Picnic; Bell, Book, and Candle; Houseboat; Any Wednesday; The 3:10 to Yuma; and even Mr. Magoo's 1001 Arabian Nights. We hear from all those film scores on this program, which aired just a few days after Duning's death. http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Bl6he4j472wae Film composer George Duning was born in Richmond, IN on February 25, 1908, later studying theory at the Cincinnati Conservatory of Music and composition under Mario Castelnuovo-Tedesco. After playing trumpet in a series of big bands, in 1939 he was tapped as the musical director for the NBC radio program "Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge," and during World War II served as conductor and arranger with the Armed Forces Radio Network. Following the war Duning signed on with Columbia Pictures, notching the first of five Academy Award nominations for his work on 1949's Jolson Sings Again; he also earned Oscar bids for 1953's No Sad Songs for Me, 1953's From Here to Eternity, 1955's Picnic and 1956's The Eddy Duchin Story, but never took home the prize. From the 1960s onward Duning focused primarily on television, writing scores for series including The Big Valley, Naked City and Star Trek; he died February 27, 2000 at the age of 92. — Jason Ankeny lousmith@pipeline.com Ben Waugh wrote: > Looks like I'll be heading back after work. Elvis's Kissin' Cousins ST actually contains George Duning's ST to "The World of Suzie Wong." Anyone know anything about this ST? ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Mas Que Nada (sp?) Date: 01 Jun 2001 16:37:13 -0400 At 02:30 PM 6/1/01 -0500, Clayton Black wrote: > >"Boring" and "cool jazz" are redundant in my mind,. I refute thee! > If this tune's on an album I'll buy it without knowing a thing about the >artist. My hands down favorite version is Warren Kime's, and it's one of >the few tunes I like on Chris Waxman's "Organized" album. I agree with those two choices though once again I must refute thee on the putdown of Chris Waxman's record. I don't have anything to add. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) chicago Date: 01 Jun 2001 16:46:07 -0400 How is Chicago for cheap records? I'm sure it has many many used record stores that sell records at collector's prices. But how about cheap records? And isn't Chicago kind of central to many of you on this list? It's got to be less than three hours away for Ross. And Kerry lives there. And I think there are others. Anyway it seems possible I will be there in late August for maybe as long as a month. You know when your friend says they're going to do something and if it happens, it will involve you and you think "yeah whatever", being certain it won't happen? Well it looks like I might be down there hanging out with homeless people and drug addicts making a film about them. At my age that no longer sounds as romantic as it once would have. But at the same time, I don't think I can turn my friend down. And anyway, I don't really have anything the junkies can steal. So, how about an exotica mini-convention in Chicago? AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Suzie Wong Date: 01 Jun 2001 17:42:32 EDT In a message dated 6/1/1 2:35:20 PM, sophisticatedsavage@yahoo.com wrote: >Looks like I'll be heading back after work. Elvis's >Kissin' Cousins ST actually contains George Duning's >ST to "The World of Suzie Wong." Anyone know anything >about this ST? George Duning...spectacular soundtrack...a keeper, but without the cover it loses a little magic...Rule #1. Always check the rekkids AND the covers in thrifts # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) "Maori challenge Lego over use of culture" Date: 01 Jun 2001 18:55:37 -0400 Today Lego, tomorrow us? http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/auspac/06/01/newzealand.maori/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Mas Que Nada (sp?) Date: 01 Jun 2001 19:02:20 -0400 >Anybody else heard the (boring) new "cool jazz" version of this? "Cool jazz" or "Smooth jazz"? A "Hot jazz" version could be interesting. But heck, what I'd really like to hear is a wild, outer than out, album-length "Free jazz" version. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com New edition of Newsstand: "Summer Fun All Comics Edition" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Salvation Army, the reprieve Date: 01 Jun 2001 17:54:04 -0700 At 12:20 PM 6/1/01, Clayton wrote: > As for Eddie Layton, I have "Better Layton than Ever," which I hold on >to thinking I might eventually like it, but I never do. I hope his other >albums are better. I have three EL albums, including BLTE. I think BLTE is the worst of the three. Great Organ Hits, Mercury SR60639 is probably his best...with renditions of Tico Tico and Patricia, how could you go wrong? Also, Granada, Ain't Misbehavin' and The Dipsy Doodle. So, a little more lively an LP. The other I have is No Blues on This Cruise...another one of those around the world LPs which were so popular in the late 50s and early 60s. How could you go wrong with Song of India. I would think El Relicario and maybe even The Dypso Calypso would also be good. Oh, while I am on organ records, I would have to recommend another Eddie and another Baxter! Eddie Baxter came out with a bunch of albums, those on Hollywood records more for the album cover photos than for the music on the vinyl. However, his "Organ Blues'N Boogie" Hamilton HLP 12136 is outstanding! Not one cut is a sleeper! I had a ball listening to the whole record and, from Eddie's smile on the cover, he had a great time playing! I agree, Ben's experience is a rare SA visit for records at such decent prices! SA will soon find it is easier just to put all of them out then to pull what they think are the cool records (I have yet to see good judgment by thrift stores in that arena). More effort will go into separating and pricing with probably no financial benefit. I probably spend more money with "experiments" (dirty awful records in split covers by people I never heard of) at low prices and remove more records from thrift stores that way than I would ever do with their specially priced vinyl. In fact, I don't think I have EVER bought a thrift store's specialty vinyl. So, I wonder what SA will do with all their rejects? Send them to the landfill, give them to another thrift store to deal with? Most likely they will reject the records you and I want the most, by my experience anyway! Byron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clayton black Subject: Re: (exotica) Mas Que Nada (sp?) Date: 02 Jun 2001 21:36:21 -0400 > "Cool jazz" or "Smooth jazz"? > > A "Hot jazz" version could be interesting. But heck, what I'd really like > to hear is a wild, outer than out, album-length "Free jazz" version. > I had thought "smooth jazz" was meant--like the Kenny G sort of endless soprano sax solo stuff for sensitive Yuppies, like what you get when you're put on hold or in hotel elevators now. (I do like yesterday's elevator music, just not today's. But I don't want to reopen the whole "nothing new is good" discussion again.) Perhaps if I misunderstood, Alan will withdraw his refutation of me (for that one, anyway)? As I understand Islamic law, three "I refute you"s (or maybe it's "renounce"), and you're officially divorced. I got two. Is that a warning? I promise I'll listen to Chris Waxman again tonight. Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Salvation Army, the reprieve Date: 01 Jun 2001 21:41:30 -0400 At 05:54 PM 6/1/01 -0700, bag@hubris.net wrote: .> >I have three EL albums, including BLTE. I think BLTE is the worst of the >three. Great Organ Hits, Mercury SR60639 is probably his best...> >The other I have is No Blues on This Cruise.... I had "Skatin with Layton". I wonder how far he went with the rhyming and punny use of his name. "Masturbatin with Layton" comes to mind but maybe I'll meet a woman this summer. (People have been literally stopping me in the street to gush over Vinyl which was on TV last week. But wouldn't you know it, not one of the "gushers" has been a woman.) Anyway the cool thing about the Skatin record was that it was made according to specifications outlined by the "Rollerskating Council of America" or some such organization which gave Eddie the beats-per-minute that each cut should adhere to. (Sort of like drum n bass.) Speaking of organ records - which is undoubtedly one of the favorite topics on this list - the other day, mostly out of desperation, I picked up an Earl Grant LP. Specifically "Bali Hai". I had given up on Mr. Grant but there are some good cuts on this one. You can't give up on anybody. (except Hansi!) AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clayton black Subject: Re: (exotica) Eddie Baxter, etc. Date: 02 Jun 2001 21:49:57 -0400 Darrell B. plays Eddie Baxter tunes on his show occasionally that I've liked. I tried to find some on Napster, but that's a dead end these days (except for Bollywood and Bhangra stuff, if you know the artists). Like Diplomat, Coral, Omega, and some others, Hamilton is one of those labels that, if you don't know the artist, can be really hit-or-miss but that do contain real gems. A lot of the classic exotica albums are on them, but then again, so is a lot of dreck (Balalaika albums, etc., which I buy anyway). Clayton > From: bag@hubris.net > > > > Oh, while I am on organ records, I would have to recommend another Eddie > and another Baxter! Eddie Baxter came out with a bunch of albums, those on > Hollywood records more for the album cover photos than for the music on the > vinyl. However, his "Organ Blues'N Boogie" Hamilton HLP 12136 is > outstanding! Not one cut is a sleeper! I had a ball listening to the > whole record and, from Eddie's smile on the cover, he had a great time > playing! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Salvation Army, the reprieve Date: 01 Jun 2001 19:13:44 -0700 At 06:41 PM 6/1/01, Alan wrote: >You can't give up on anybody. >(except Hansi!) Actually, one of the first truly exotic tunes I remember impressing me (the others included Martin Denny's version of Quiet Village) was "Happy Brazilia" by "James Last" from his El Condor Pasa album. I actually have not listened to anything else on that album. I believe I have been prejudiced against all of his other music thanks to some exposure on the radio, but when Monitor (NBC's nationwide weekend radio DJ/features/news show) played this one, it definitely got my attention. The other "James Last" records I buy will probably be for whatever interest I have in the cover art. I still remember what the DJ said after playing "Happy Brazilia." "Happy? Sounds like a riot somewhere!" Byron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Salvation Army, the reprieve Date: 01 Jun 2001 23:33:23 EDT In a message dated 6/1/01 5:55:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bag@hubris.net writes: << So, I wonder what SA will do with all their rejects? Send them to the landfill, give them to another thrift store to deal with? Most likely they will reject the records you and I want the most, by my experience anyway! Byron >> I dunno, my local (before I moved) SA seemed to be more of a dumping ground than anything else: lotsa scratched up vinyl with and without record covers (not always the right ones) that looked as scragged as the vinyl simply thrown in without care, and nothing in the way of "speciality" vinyl, probably because they considered vinyl to be as obsolete as the 8-track. (tho considering I found a couple of books from de Sade, etc. said SA wasn't totally barren) Most thrift stores I run across seem to put whatever they get right into their bins, only pitching them if they look like they're broken in half or whatever. (Trust me, if they'll take those scary "religious" records - and I'm not just talking your usual Billy Graham stuff, I'm talking homemade-and-released-on-the-Word-label-out-of=Waco - they'll take anything).-DavidH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (exotica) Bozo Ends Its 40 Year Run Date: 01 Jun 2001 22:06:15 -0400 Somebody asked: >Does american TV ever show documentaries of strange artists that live >in the forest that make strange art?All we get over here from american > TV is total crap. Except some occasional serial. I do remember an episode of the show Weird Homes" on HGTV (Home & Garden Channel) with some old guy that lived out in a remote farm in the woods and made some very intertesting art out of used machine parts. Its that old "folk" art thing and there's lots of it on this continent that's well documented. The offerings get weider as you go further west . I think we went over thsi one before and most American (and Canadian TV for that matter) is crap, but you just have to be selective as there are gems hidden within. Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: RE: (exotica) James Last and beautiful instrumentals Date: 01 Jun 2001 23:36:08 -0400 Marco wrote: > I know exactly what you mean, Alan. I've been a member of *that* list for > about 3 weeks and it was a very weird experience. Well I know of one former member of this list that would find a good home there. I think one of you members owes to that other list to make the suggestion... before you leave... Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jschwart@voicenet.com Subject: (exotica) roaming films Date: 01 Jun 2001 10:28:40 On Wed, 30 May 2001 07:21:14 -0700, Kevin Crossman wrote: >Is there any chance this could be a roaming sort of festival...? I'd love to see these films to come to San Francisco. Actually, I presented the first two parts of this series in San Francisco in fall of 1999, at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts (along with a third night of rock sitcom episodes). With any luck, I'll be invited back sometime. And I'd be interested im bringing films to other places as well, if anyone wants to help. - Jay Schwartz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Mas Que Nada (sp?) Date: 02 Jun 2001 02:22:08 -0400 At 09:36 PM 6/2/01 -0400, clayton black wrote: .> As I understand Islamic law, three "I refute you"s (or maybe it's >"renounce"), and you're officially divorced. I got two. Is that a warning? >I promise I'll listen to Chris Waxman again tonight. You better hope I never renounce you. Refuting is different. If you don't like the Chris Waxman, that's your business. But I won't take back the refuting. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) "Maori challenge Lego over use of culture" Date: 02 Jun 2001 12:06:25 +0200 I read that in the paper today; these Maori sure are a very sensitive people. The disappointing part is, that the new Lego-series making use of these Maori names, doesn't have anything to do with Maori culture or Exotica. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kendoll Subject: (exotica) Tikis in the Canadian Rockies? Date: 02 Jun 2001 09:12:24 -0600 http://fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~kendoll/kimberley.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: (exotica) perry blackwell Date: 02 Jun 2001 23:19:40 +0800 hi all, the other day i was watching "pillow talk" and while watching the scene where they go to this piano bar, i started to wonder who is this singer and should i know her? according to imdb her name is perry blackwell. does anyone know anything about her? while i was at imdb i decided to see what they had to say on our very own alan zweig. it looks like vinyl has gotten a lot of good votes there. but oddly enough in there "if you like this we reccomend..." section they reccomended something called "tori amos live in nyc" or something like that. so alan does tori make a guest appearance in your film? what's the connection? william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) RE: Sandpipers, etc Date: 02 Jun 2001 10:47:02 -0500 Darrell wrote "I remember that tune, too. I used to have it on the soundtrack from The Sterile Cuckoo which, as I remember it now, was the same sort of dreamy, easy, mostly instrumental pop with some faint (very faint) Now Sound accents. My memory may be hazy, it's been a long time since I last heard it. But I do remember really liking the album at the time. The rest of the music in the movie is by Fred Karlin, who also did Up the Down Staircase. " I vaguely remember that too....maybe it's some kind easy listening "mind control" God only knows what we did, or what happened to us when we would hear "Come Saturday Morning"...You know, I feel quite dreamy now, just thinking about it. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) roaming films Date: 02 Jun 2001 13:46:16 -0400 At 10:28 AM 6/1/01, jschwart@voicenet.com wrote: .> >- Jay Schwartz . Which reminds me. Have you ever heard the comedy record "J.Schwartz New York" by Jackie MIles? You're not missing anything. But if my name were Jay Schwartz, I'd want a copy of it. (And if you do, you've come to the right place.) AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Barbara the Gray Witch Date: 02 Jun 2001 15:21:48 EDT Does anyone have a mint or near mint copy of Barbara the Gray Witch (1971 double LP)? If so, please e-mail me off list. I have been working with Barbara on a pet project to re-release this on CD, but neither my copy nor hers is quite the sound quality I was hoping for. I would be willing to trade or perhaps even pay $ to get a noise-free recording of it. Thanks Sean Pearman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) Who Shot Les Baxter? Date: 02 Jun 2001 23:04:53 -0500 Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) Who Shot Les Baxter? Date: 02 Jun 2001 23:17:52 -0500 Matt wrote: My work is going to be taking me to the Dallas/Ft. Worth area at the end of June, so once again I turn to you, exotipals and exotipal-ettes, to hopefully point me in the direction of any loungey, tropical diversions that may exist in the area. ************************** Matt, I live in the DFW area (south of it actually) and you can forget about Ft. Worth. I'm still on the prowl for something exotica...and it's not happening. Dallas is another story...they are very so-phisti-cated. I will check with my son, who lives in Dallas if he knows any lounge-y, tropical places. I'm sure he will stare at me blankly...he is of gen-X origins, adult alternative and cigar bars. BTW, is it just this area or are most cites getting a lot of very upscale "men's clubs"? They abound in Dallas...they could be tropical...they don't wear much. Steamy. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) What "other country"? Date: 02 Jun 2001 23:34:44 -0500 AZ wrote: This "other country" shit makes me sick but if I can tolerate all you non-Canadians, certainly you can tolerate references to other lists ************************ What "other country shit" , I'm confused, do you not like Americans on the list, or people who talk about going to oher countries or what. I'm not being a "smart ass", I just want to know what went over my head here. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) ebay thrift store records Date: 03 Jun 2001 03:17:00 -0400 This guy has a smattering of lounge/exotica records at only slightly higher than thrift store prices, unless of course someone actually bids on them: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=jlblabaum@m arshallnet.com&sort=2&page=1&rows=25&since=-1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) Who Shot Les Baxter? Date: 03 Jun 2001 09:11:07 -0500 Colleen Pyles wrote: > I will check with my son, who lives in Dallas if he knows any lounge-y, > tropical places. I'm sure he will stare at me blankly...he is of gen-X > origins, adult alternative and cigar bars. Thanks, Colleen. Ugh, cigars...I've never quite understood the appeal. Whenever my Italian grandpa used to light one up, my little Italian grandma would say, "Tony, why don't you just stick a dog turd in your mouth and light the end?" He'd just smile at her indulgently and totter out into the backyard to pick more zucchini from the garden. > BTW, is it just this area or are most cites getting a lot of very > upscale "men's clubs"? They abound in Dallas...they could be > tropical...they don't wear much. Steamy. No, it's not just your area. They've even made their way into smaller cities like mine. You know how boys are, they've got to have sekrit hideouts where they can isolate themselves from cootie carriers (gurlz). -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, June 3 Date: 03 Jun 2001 12:38:21 -0400 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #145 There are organs... and then there are ORGANS! Who woudn't recognize the familar sound of the Hammond organ, that kitschy instrument of choice of many an easy-listening musician. But here are a few "interpretations" that could change the way you think about this particular instrument... forever! Stock, Hausen & Walkman: Spoons "Organ Transpants Vol. 2" Klaus Wunderlich: Swing In, Torero "Opera Happening" Fuzzy Love - California Girls "Pagan Schmalz And Other Sacrifices" Stock, Hausen & Walkman: OOPS "Organ Transpants Vol. 2" Sir Henry: Wilhelm Tell Rumba "Ums Nackte Leben" Midisport: Shepard (Bossa) "14 Footballers In Milkchocolate" Midisport: Florianopoly (Phony) "14 Footballers In Milkchocolate" Klaus Wunderlich: Baby Elephant Walk "Super Star Sound - Hammond Gala" Seks Bomba: Bomba Au Go Go "Somewhere In This Town" (thanks, George!) Sir Henry: Zwei Neue Kunden "Ums Nackte Leben" Sir Julian: Boulevard Of Broken Dreams "A Knight At The Organ" Sir Henry: Ein Neuer Kunde "Ums Nackte Leben" Quintron: Hurricane "Unmasked Organ Light-Year Of Infinity Man" James "Hansi" Last: Cha-Cha-Cha "Hammond A Go-Go Vol. 2" Quintron: Certain Girl "Unmasked Organ Light-Year Of Infinity Man" Thanks for reading, and thanks for listening cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Perez Prado "Cha Cha Cha" Date: 03 Jun 2001 20:21:04 -0400 Perez Prado "Cha Cha Cha" (Sutton) Does anyone know more about this one? It's not bad, but it's not prime Prado, and also not oddball Prado (except for a version of "La Paloma" with a guitar boogie bass line). It's okay, but most of it just sort of went in one ear and out the other, if you know what I mean (or maybe it was the wrong record for my mood). The sound quality is definitely on the "budget" side -- generally muffled, and sometimes a lot of reverb. To my ear, the tracks come from various sources, and one or two don't even sound like a Prado band to me, but maybe I'm too suspicious. The tracks are: Flamingo Cha Cha Cha Cha No. 5 Blue Tango Miami Beach Mambo La Paloma Heat Wave Un Poquito Cha Cha Cha Cha No. 8 When Johnny Comes Marching Home Caribbean Mambo Anvil Chorus La Clave Those "numbered" chas chas could be retitles of his earlier Mambos, but I haven't tried A-B-ing them. Like I said, the sound quality is on the low side, like numerous generations removed from a master tape. If anyone knows the background of this one, I'd be glad to hear it. Budget labels are so good for tales of skullduggery. thanks, m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) "The music revolution will not be digitized" Date: 03 Jun 2001 20:21:12 -0400 http://salon.com/tech/feature/2001/06/01/digital_music/print.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: (exotica) The Electric Indian Date: 03 Jun 2001 22:12:36 -0400 I seem to remember some discussion about this record "Keem-O- Sabe" by 'The Electric Indian" some time back. I just found a copy this weekend (CDN$5) and I picked it up as I was sure there was some history behind it. What it sounds like is somewhere between Mandingo and The Incredible Bongo band, with a noticeable Native American sound, a touch of disco in places, but mostly funky soul... and quite good at that! But what exactly is the story behind it? I always confused it for some reason with the 1910 Fruitgum Company, but its clear I was wrong. Also, was it ever reissued? My copy os on United Artists. No date listed, but it says its also available in Cassete or 8 Track version, so that gives a good clue as to its age. Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) salvation army the reprieve Date: 04 Jun 2001 09:46:05 +0100 This list is probably the only place in the world that lists Casino Royale as a James Bond film. Did you check to see which pressing it was (I recall Br Cleve saying #3 was cut so it sounded like Dusty Whispering in your ear). With luck running at those sort of levels, its probably your only chance of getting the right one. Good work! El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The Stare # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Amsterdam and herb Date: 04 Jun 2001 14:16:32 +0100 Perhaps one of our Dutch friends can answer. A friend of mine has just returned from Amsterdam (and Ed, he swears he only spent a little time in the cafes, didn't drink much and stayed well away from the prostitutes, even though he's English). And he tells me that he saw Herb Alpert LP's going for the equivalent of 10 UKPounds (say 15 US Dollars at the moment). Can this be true, or did he only see them in the ridiculous rip-off joints that only price things up for the foolish? If its true, perhaps Robbie can take a few over to finance his trip. and perhaps the rest of us can run an importing scan with Ed shipping over surplus copies of 'Going Places' (bizarrely the Herb LP I see most in charity shops). El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The Stare # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) The Electric Indian Date: 04 Jun 2001 09:17:45 -0400 This fellow played on it: http://www.geocities.com/jahsonic/Montana.html And to quote Lr. (Lister) Schwartz from about a year ago: ""Keem-O-Sabe " by the Electric Indian was a big instrumental hit in Philadelphia, where the record was made. It also charted nationally at #16, according to the Billboard Top 40 book. The album charted at #104. Borisoff is indeed Len Barry (formerly of the Dovells), and many of the people involved in manking the single and album were the staff musicians who made the Philadelphia International records of the early '70s. You can hear the trademark TSOP strings and rhythm section stylings clearly. The original pressing of "Keem-O-Sabe/Broad Street" was on the Marmaduke label, but you probably won't find that outside of Philly." Old enough to think that there was one wind-up Native American playing all the instruments when the record first came out, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) sandpipers again Date: 04 Jun 2001 15:03:16 +0100 I'm sure somewhere at home I've got an Ennio Morricone LP with vocals by the Sandpipers. One of the ones with an Italian title thats not translated, so I'm not going to try my unreliable memory by attempting to remember it. But its a good one, much better than the Beyond the Valley of the Dolls track. Did they do much stuff with the Maestro? does anyone know? Whats that EM URL again that some one on the list was doing? El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The Stare # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" Subject: RE: (exotica) Amsterdam and herb Date: 04 Jun 2001 16:16:09 +0200 > Perhaps one of our Dutch friends can answer. > saw Herb Alpert LP's going for the equivalent of 10 UKPounds (say 15 US > Dollars at the moment). > Can this be true, or did he only see them in the ridiculous rip-off joints > that only price things up for the foolish? Well, it can be true, of course. But I never paid more than a buck for my Herb LPs. You can still find them at any flea market over here. Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) What "other country"? Date: 04 Jun 2001 09:22:26 -0500 Oh...a joke...damn, I'm always trying to figure you out and I'm foiled again! ---- Begin Original Message ---- Sent: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 02:56:46 -0400 At 11:34 PM 6/2/01 -0500, you wrote: >AZ wrote: > >This "other country" shit makes me sick but if I can tolerate all you >non-Canadians, certainly you can tolerate references to other lists > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ************************ >What "other country shit" , I'm confused, do you not like Americans >on the list, or people who talk about going to oher countries or >what. =A0I'm not being a "smart ass", I just want to know what went >over my head here. It was just a joke. > > > Colleen >_____________________________________ > >Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com > ---- End Original Message ---- Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: (exotica) journey to the stars Date: 04 Jun 2001 22:46:50 +0800 hi all, today, i picked up this disc called "journey to the stars a sci-fi fantasy adventure" - hollywood bowl orchestra john mauceri. anyone know anything about this or have thoughts on it? i was worried it was going to be terrible but i found i quite like it. selections from the day the earth stood still, star trek, forbidden planet, the bride of frankenstein, altered states, among others. there are two short tracks from some film called "aniara" composed by karl-birger blomdahl. i've never heard of that. anyone know anything about that composer or the film? william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) journey to the stars Date: 04 Jun 2001 11:10:13 -0400 William wrote: >there are two short tracks from some film called "aniara" composed by karl-birger blomdahl. i've never heard of that. anyone know anything about that composer or the film? william in taipei. ============== Odd that they included some of Aniara on that disc since it isn't a film but a Swadish Sci-Fi opera. Here's the allclassical.com description: lousmith@pipeline.com Aniara, Space opera of 2038 Composer Karl-Birger Blomdahl Genre 20th/21st Century Opera Date 1957 -1958 Description Often billed a the first "Science-fiction opera, " the action of this opera by one of Sweden's most important composers takes place upon a spaceship named "Aniara, " filled with refugees from a ravished home planet named Dorisland. Their link with the outside is a device called the "Mima, " a kind of cosmic television which gathers images of wonders of the universe, but, having a soul, it returns in grief to the destruction of Dorisland. The ship is under the rule of Chefone and his enforcers, called "Space Cadets, " while the human element is provided by the lovely dances of the woman pilot, Ysagel, and the tender song of the officer called only the "Mimarobe." The Mima itself has a voice in some of the first electronic music to be heard in any opera. The story is pageant-like, showing highlights of over twenty years spend on the ship, for early in the voyage a harsh maneuver meant to avoid an asteroid left them without propellent to return to a proper course, so the entire s! ! hip-board society is doomed to wander off in the wrong direction, dying during an endless journey. The music is often radical: basses pulse with the rhythm of "SOS, Aniara" in Morse code. Sometimes there is twelve-tone music, sometimes a harsh jazz idiom. Ysagel's music and the Mimarobe's song in adoration of her has a rare, crystalline beauty. Very rarely encountered in the repertoire, there is nevertheless a strange fascination in this widely varied score and its parade of hopeless characters. -- Joseph Stevenson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Manuel Kalmanovitz" Subject: Re: (exotica) thrift shop finds Date: 04 Jun 2001 10:11:44 -0500 Well being Colombian I do know what "Llano adentro" must be. The weird thing is that the slogan "El disco es cultura" was not used here. I saw it in some Argentinian Lps once, and maybe in some Venezuelan ones. Anyway. Llano means plain. And it refers to a place shared by Colombia and Venezuela in the south east part of Colombia (southwest of Venezuela). Mzsica llanera is played generally by groups of four people: one plays harp, another a 4 string guitar (called 'cuatro'), another a 'maraca' (I don't know its name in English, a round thing full of seeds and the only percussion instrument featured) and the other one sings. It is really energetic and fast, and the singing is very passionate. It is quite popular here. There is even a group that gets into local buses to play for the small change of the bored passengers. It is one of the most peculiar scenes you can get. A guy with a really big harp, dressed all in white and with a white straw cowboy hat, trying to get into the bus by its backdoor. And then when the playing gets going no one can get out because the corridor is blocked. Here's a link with some real audio songs http://www.llanera.com/musica/index.html Cheers, Manuel Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) salvation army the reprieve Date: 04 Jun 2001 09:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Not sure, but I am curious how you can tell what pressing it is... I have not yet aurally compared it to my other copy. And speaking of Dusty - I went back looking for the lost Elvis ST and picked up her debut lp (if the debut is that one which has the "likes & dislikes interview on the back)for a friend who really likes the song "I only want to be with you." Best, BW --- G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk wrote: > Did you check to see which pressing it was (I recall > Br Cleve saying #3 was > cut so it sounded like Dusty Whispering in your > ear). ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) salvation army the reprieve Date: 04 Jun 2001 12:34:20 -0400 on 6/4/01 12:08 PM, Ben Waugh at sophisticatedsavage@yahoo.com wrote: > > Not sure, but I am curious how you can tell what > pressing it is... It's in the run off groove - the pressing that the audophiles search for is the one with 3S etched in the groove, after all the matrix numbers. I don't know how many pressings there were of that album. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) thrift shop finds Date: 04 Jun 2001 19:02:45 +0200 I'm so grateful for this reply. This album is really special and without your post I wouldn't have the slightest idea what it is all about. In fact the cover shows a desert scene that could remind one of a sunset in Texas. Many of these singers look like cowboys. One or two songs have horse calls to illustrate the music, not unlike the bird calls of Martin Denny, but of course completely different at the same time. It looks as if we have here the country music of Venezoela and Colombia, no? A note on the cover says "hecho in Colombia por discos Philips". To your interest, the groups featured on the album are: Freddy Lopez (probably the best) David Parales y su conjunto llanero Luis Ariel Rey (who is featured on that homepage) Elys Garcia Anselmo Lopez, el rey de la bandola Francisco Brizuela La Rondalla Llanera does any of these names mean something to you? http://www.llanera.com/musica/index.html this very well done homepage features some really nice sound samples and good info on the musicians! So what does "llano" mean? First I thought "desert" but the photos all show rivers or lakes... Mo Manuel Kalmanovitz schrieb: > Well being Colombian I do know what "Llano adentro" must be. The weird thing is that the slogan "El disco es cultura" was not used here. I saw it in some Argentinian Lps once, and maybe in some Venezuelan ones. > > Anyway. Llano means plain. And it refers to a place shared by Colombia and Venezuela in the south east part of Colombia (southwest of Venezuela). Mzsica llanera is played generally by groups of four people: one plays harp, another a 4 string guitar (called 'cuatro'), another a 'maraca' (I don't know its name in English, a round thing full of seeds and the only percussion instrument featured) and the other one sings. It is really energetic and fast, and the singing is very passionate. > > It is quite popular here. There is even a group that gets into local buses to play for the small change of the bored passengers. It is one of the most peculiar scenes you can get. A guy with a really big harp, dressed all in white and with a white straw cowboy hat, trying to get into the bus by its backdoor. And then when the playing gets going no one can get out because the corridor is blocked. > > Here's a link with some real audio songs http://www.llanera.com/musica/index.html -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Earl Grant Date: 04 Jun 2001 13:14:52 EDT In a message dated 6/4/01 8:18:35 AM US Eastern Standard Time, alan zweig writes: << Speaking of organ records - which is undoubtedly one of the favorite topics on this list - the other day, mostly out of desperation, I picked up an Earl Grant LP. Specifically "Bali Hai". I had given up on Mr. Grant but there are some good cuts on this one. >> I concur and like all of Earl's "exotic" LPs (Trade Winds, Beyond the Reef, Ebb Tide, etc.). On occasion, Earl can be heard to make bird call sounds using the Hammond organ. Very cool! Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: chicago Date: 04 Jun 2001 13:23:48 EDT In a message dated 6/4/01 8:18:35 AM US Eastern Standard Time, alan zweig writes: << How is Chicago for cheap records? I'm sure it has many many used record stores that sell records at collector's prices. But how about cheap records? >> On Clark Street, due west of Lincoln Park, there are two shops next door to each other, 2nd Hand Tunes and Hi-Fi Records where I usually find something. Prices are reasonable, though they do have collectors' prices on some things. A block or two away, on Broadway, Reckless Records has some good vinyl, too. Their prices are usually a little higher. I confess I haven't been in any of these stores in a while so things may have changed. 2nd Hand Tunes has a few more stores in other parts of town. I have yet to stop in, but a friend of mine found a place in the Loop, on Wabash, called The Jazz Store or something like that which specializes in jazz (probably at collectors' prices). DustyGroove is a short trip by car from these places. They don't have much that's not listed on their website and their website is kept up-to-date, but it is awesome to see the volume of rare funk, Brazilian music, etc. that you don't see anywhere else. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: chicago Date: 04 Jun 2001 13:36:43 -0400 I think the latest issue of Cool&Strange Music has a roundup of Chicago record stores. Have you gotten your copy yet, Alan? lousmith@pipeline.com In a message dated 6/4/01 8:18:35 AM US Eastern Standard Time, alan zweig writes: << How is Chicago for cheap records? I'm sure it has many many used record stores that sell records at collector's prices. But how about cheap records? >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Allegro Cocktail Hour Date: 04 Jun 2001 14:28:35 -0400 http://www.allegro-music.com/cocktailhour/ Is anyone familiar with Allegro's budget CD line, Cocktail Hour? Are these worth investigating? lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SH Subject: Re: (exotica) Latin Voalgroup Date: 04 Jun 2001 23:15:24 +0100 Hello, I recently heard / saw what looked like an old (early 60s) tv-performance by LOS ZAFIROS. This 5 piece vocal sang in spanish and they probably originate from latin America. The Tune was brilliant, as it had a advanced great doowop style arrangement in the top class style. I wonder who could know something about them. Also I recently got an album by Harald Winkler (guitar) and The Norman Candler Orchestra, LOVE ME WITH ALL YOUR HEART, this is early 70s beautiful big arrangements of pop hgits of the day. I wonder what else Harald Winkler AND also The Norman Candler Orchestra could have released. The Jackie Mittoo album on Universal Sound/Soul Jazz records is incredibly great, a mix of early Rocksteady/Reggae/Soul instros, mostly Hammond and Rhodes leads. Don’t knock it until you heard it! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) one ton tomato Date: 04 Jun 2001 17:10:50 -0400 http://www.videoranch.com/html/realplayer/onetontomato.html Here's a clip of that bit I recalled during the Guantanamera conversation. Ain't the web great - no mater how trivial or idiotic, it's in there somewhere! Turns out it was a Mike Nesmith routine. Poke around his graphics-heavy site if you've got the bandwidth and time http://www.videoranch.com lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Allegro Cocktail Hour Date: 04 Jun 2001 18:33:13 -0700 At 11:28 AM 6/4/01, Lou wrote: >http://www.allegro-music.com/cocktailhour/ >Is anyone familiar with Allegro's budget CD line, Cocktail Hour? Yes. I have Rosemary Clooney, Xavier Cugat and Peggy Lee. Like all of them. Good audio. Wish they had put more audio on each disc (like 60 minutes). They could have put both CDs on one! Would have liked documentation (where did this music come from?!) I think Rosemary Clooney disc 2 is off the LP she did with Perez Prado...one of my faves. The other one is from Clap Hands! Here Somes Rosie...both on RCA. The Lee discs may have been budget reissued before...I think these are the ones she did with her hubbie, Dave Barbour. The Xavier Cugat may have been RCA which would be older stuff, but I am not sure about that. I also have a Perez Prado set and one with Mambos, but it is basically one-half Prado and one-half other Latin bands. I think they are worth a budget price...and they look nice on the shelf. I got some free drink coasters with them to match...but maybe they ran out by now?! Byron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Allegro Cocktail Hour Date: 04 Jun 2001 21:56:43 -0500 Byron wrote: Yes. I have Rosemary Clooney, Xavier Cugat and Peggy Lee. Like all of them. Good audio. Wish they had put more audio on each disc (like 60 minutes). They could have put both CDs on one! Would have liked documentation (where did this music come from?!) I think Rosemary Clooney disc 2 is off the LP she did with Perez Prado...one of my faves. The other one is from Clap Hands! Here Somes Rosie...both on RCA. The Lee discs may have been budget reissued before...I think these are the ones she did with her hubbie, Dave Barbour. The Xavier Cugat may have been RCA which would be older stuff, but I am not sure about that. I also have a Perez Prado set and one with Mambos, but it is basically one-half Prado and one-half other Latin bands. I think they are worth a budget price...and they look nice on the shelf. I got some free drink coasters with them to match...but maybe they ran out by now?! ***************************** Hey, these sound great. I love Rosemary Clooney and Mel Torme. dis you buy these off the website or in a record store? Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) sandpipers again Date: 04 Jun 2001 23:04:38 -0400 on 6/4/01 10:03 AM, G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk at G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk wrote: > > I'm sure somewhere at home I've got an Ennio Morricone LP with vocals by the > Sandpipers. One of the ones with an Italian title thats not translated, so > I'm not going to try my unreliable memory by attempting to remember it. The Sandpipers did "Hurry To Me", which is the English translation of Morricone's theme to "Metti Una Sera A Cena". I don't know if they did a whole album of Morricone material; I'm guessing they didn't, but if anyone knows.... br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) Road trip-Route 66 Date: 04 Jun 2001 22:02:57 -0500 Hi guys, have been lurking a lot lately, busy at work and my sister has just been diagnosed with breast cancer and that has taken up a lot of my time. But here's the deal, we're gonna take my sister on a road trip on ROUTE 66. Has anyone done this? I know a lot has been lost to the interstate, but I hear there's a lot still left of the Mother Road. If anyone knows anything, let me know. I think it could be a lot of fun. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obits] Hank Ketcham, Imogene Coca, John Hartford Date: 04 Jun 2001 23:23:41 -0400 Dennis the Menace' Creator Dies PEBBLE BEACH, Calif. (AP) - Hank Ketcham, whose lovable scamp ``Dennis the Menace'' tormented cranky Mr. Wilson and amused readers of comics for decades, has died at age 81. Ketcham stopped drawing the weekday strip at the end of 1994 but let it continue under a team of artists and writers. Inspired by the antics of his 4-year-old son, Ketcham began the strip in 1951. In March, Ketcham's panels celebrated 50 years of publication - running in 1,000 newspapers, 48 countries and 19 languages. Despite its longevity, the strip changed little since the 1950s. Dennis was always a freckle-faced ``five-ana-half'' - an appealing if aggravating mixture of impishness and innocence. Henry King Ketcham was born March 14, 1920, in Seattle and grew up there. He recalled he was no more than 6 when he knew he wanted to be a cartoonist. One day he watched a family friend sketch Barney Google and other then-popular cartoon figures. ``I couldn't wait to borrow his `magic pencil' and try my own hand at drawing these comic-strip characters,'' said Ketcham, who promptly copied every comic he could get his hands on. ``It was a major discovery, and I was floating on air with excitement.'' In 1938, he dropped out of the University of Washington after his freshman year and went to Southern California to work as an animator, first for Walter Lantz, creator of ``Woody Woodpecker,'' and then for Walt Disney. Ketcham worked on ``Pinocchio,'' ``Bambi,'' ``Fantasia'' and Donald Duck shorts. When the United States entered World War II, he enlisted in the Navy, where he was put to work drawing cartoons for Navy posters, training material and war bond sales. A free-lance cartoonist after the war, Ketcham was living in Carmel when he got the idea for ``Dennis the Menace'' in October 1950. His wife, Alice, burst into his home studio, exasperated that their 4-year-old son, Dennis, had dismantled his room instead of taking a nap. ``Your son is a menace!'' she said. The strip with the towhead tornado, crabby neighbor Mr. Wilson and a rangy, bespectacled dad who looked like Ketcham himself made its debut in 16 newspapers. It was an instant hit, and the following year a collection of Dennis cartoons was a best-seller. Despite the strip's real-life inspiration, Ketcham didn't depend on family life for ideas. He used comedy writers and credited the team approach for the strip's longevity. ``Anyone in the humor business isn't thinking clearly if he doesn't surround himself with idea people,'' Ketcham told The Associated Press in a 1994 interview. ``Otherwise, you settle for ... mediocrity - or you burn yourself out.'' Ketcham and his first wife had separated when she died in 1959. He and his son Dennis drifted apart, and they spoke infrequently in later life. The cartoonist moved to Switzerland, where lived in Geneva for 17 years, relishing the peace of being thousands of miles away from business associates. He returned to the United States only infrequently and used the Sears catalogue to keep abreast of details of the changing American way of life for his strip. A second marriage ended in divorce, but Ketcham married a third time and had two more children. He and his family returned to the United States in 1977. =============== Actress Imogene Coca Dies at Age 92 HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) - Imogene Coca, the elfin actress and satiric comedienne who co-starred with Sid Caesar on television's classic ``Your Show of Shows'' in the 1950s, died Saturday. She was 92. Coca died of natural causes at her Westport residence, said longtime friend Mark Basile. ``She was a humanist,'' Basile said. ``Her humanity was so strong, so giving. She made people want to be with her.' Coca's saucer eyes, fluttering lashes, big smile and boundless energy lit up the screen in television's ``Golden Age'' and brought her an Emmy as best actress in 1951. Although she did some broad burlesque, her forte was subtle exaggeration. A talented singer and dancer, her spoofs of opera divas and prima ballerinas tiptoed a fine line between dignity and absurdity until she pushed them over the edge at the end. ``The trouble with most comedians who try to do satire,'' a critic once wrote, ``is that they are essentially brash, noisy and indelicate people who have to use a sledge hammer to smash a butterfly. Miss Coca, on the other hand, is the timid woman who, when aroused, can beat a tiger to death with a feather.'' With Caesar she performed skits that satirized the everyday - marital spats, takeoffs on films and TV programs, strangers meeting and speaking in cliches. ``The Hickenloopers'' husband-and-wife skit became a staple. Once she and Caesar pantomimed a wife posing for her amateur photographer husband. He kept rearranging her mobile features for the perfect look and wherever he put her lip or eyebrow, that's where it stayed. ``The great thing about Imogene is that her left nostril never knows what the right one is doing,'' director-producer Max Liebman said. Coca and Caesar complemented each other marvelously. ``The chemistry was perfect, that's all,'' Coca once said. ``We never went out together; we never see each other socially. But for years we worked together from 10 in the morning to 6 or 7 at night every day of the week. What made it work is that we found the same things funny.'' Wrote Caesar in his 1982 autobiography, ``Where Have I Been?'': ``She's a great actress and we grew so used to working together on stage that she could guess what I was going to say - and react to it - when the thought was still in my head.'' Show business came naturally to Coca, who was born in Philadelphia on Nov. 18, 1908. Her father was an orchestra conductor, her mother an actress and vaudeville dancer; she was their only child. She started piano lessons at age 5, singing lessons at 6 and dancing class at 7. She made her stage debut as a dancer at 9 and did a solo singing stint in vaudeville at age 11. ``I never thought of myself in comedy at all,'' she once said. ``I loved going to the theater and seeing people wearing beautiful clothes come down the staircase and start to dance. I wanted to play St. Joan.'' Her comedic ability was tapped by accident while she was rehearsing for a revue called ``New Faces of 1934.'' The theater was cold and she borrowed a man's camel's hair coat that was ludicrously large on her. The 5-foot-3 Coca began clowning around on stage using the over-length garment in a mock fan dance. The producer, Leonard Sillman, saw and liked the bit and incorporated it in the show. She developed a small following but her career went along in fits and starts. It was not until 1949 when she was hired by Liebman for his televised ``Admiral Broadway Revue'' that she became widely known. ========== David X. Young, a painter whose rodent-infested, illegally rented loft became a citadel of jazz improvisation and experimentation in the 1950's and 60's, died on May 22, 2001, in Manhattan. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/03/obituaries/03YOUN.html ========== LONDON (Reuters) - "Great Train Robber" Ronnie Biggs was admitted to a London hospital on Saturday after reportedly suffering his fourth stroke. A spokeswoman for Queen Elizabeth Hospital said that Biggs, 71, was in a stable condition. She could not confirm that he had had a stroke but British newspaper reports said that Biggs was in intensive care after suffering a stroke. Biggs, who enjoyed a playboy lifestyle as a fugitive for 35 years, left Brazil for Britain early last month to give himself up. He has been under suicide watch at London's top security Belmarsh Prison after becoming depressed when he learned he would have to serve at least 14 years. Biggs was one of the gang who pulled off a daring robbery of a Glasgow-to-London mail train in 1963 that netted 2.5 million pounds. The high-profile robbery and Bigg's partying lifestyle as a fugitive in Brazil turned him into a criminal legend, spawning several films and making heroes out of villains in the eyes of millions around the world. ======== URL: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010604/re/arts_hartford_dc_1.html Monday June 4 10:43 PM ET Songwriter-Banjo Player John Hartford Dies By Pat Harris NASHVILLE, Tenn. (Reuters) - Songwriter, singer and banjo player John Hartford, a three-time Grammy Award winner who penned the ballad ``Gentle on My Mind,'' died on Monday at Centennial Medical Center in Nashville, a hospital spokesman said. He was 63 and had battled cancer for several years. Hartford's signature song earned him sudden wealth after singer-guitarist Glen Campbell turned it into a hit in 1967, causing it to become a frequently recorded tune. ``It bought my freedom,'' he once said of ``Gentle on My Mind.'' The song landed him appearances on Campbell's television show, where he popped up from a seat in the audience and played the banjo at the show's start, and on the Smothers Brothers' variety show. The ballad also earned Hartford two Grammy awards, for Best Folk Performance and Best Country and Western Song. A decade later, in 1977, he won a third Grammy, for Best Ethnic or Traditional Recording, for his album ``Mark Twang.'' The eccentric Hartford, who also played fiddle and guitar, always sported a trademark derby hat and invented his own brand of soft-shoe shuffle dance. Hartford was a licensed riverboat captain, an obsession that emerged from his childhood in St. Louis where, he said, ``I fell in love with the Mississippi River.'' ``MUSIC AND LYRICS UNLIKE ANY I'VE HEARD'' In the liner notes on Hartford's first album, fellow singer Johnny Cash wrote: ``His music and lyrics are unlike any I've heard. He is himself and will not be told how to write or sing because he has only his own world.'' Two of his early musical influences were bluegrass banjo artists Bill Monroe and Earl Scruggs.(??? - Lou) Born John Harford in New York on Dec. 30, 1937, his family moved to Missouri while he was an infant. He bought his first banjo for $2 and became an accomplished musician at an early age. He worked variously as a sign painter, riverboat deck hand and radio disc jockey. After stints with two small Missouri radio stations, Hartford moved to Nashville in 1964 to work at a station there while peddling his songs on the city's famed Music Row. He became a session musician and signed with RCA in 1966. His songs were recorded by such stars as Waylon Jennings, Patti Page, Jack Green and George Hamilton IV. After leaving RCA, he recorded on the Flying Fish label and went on to perform with James Taylor, the Byrds and one of his idols, Bill Monroe. Following the success of ``Gentle on My Mind'' and his TV exposure, Hartford formed his own band for a time and then toured as a solo act while continuing to write music. His work included such tunes as ``Tall Buildings'' and ''Annual Waltz,'' and he was known for ``story songs'' such as ``The Burning of the Grand Republic'' and ``When the Guiding Star came to Tell City.'' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Penna Subject: (exotica) The Now Sound of Martin Denny Date: 04 Jun 2001 20:36:42 -0700 I think this speaks for itself. "There is no doubt that this is the Go-Go generation. The words Go-Go have become an automatic phrase of this generation. There's everything from Go-Go discotheques to Go-Go laundromats and, I am sure, many people have asked themselves "Where does all this come from?" It all started in Paris, France and spread like wild fire [sic] to both the east and the west. It has travelled across oceans and plains to such far corners as Finland, Japan and Soth America. Hawaii is certainly not one to be left behind. Hawaii has always been a place of excitement, but an excitement of a different kind, associated mainly with swaying palms, steel guitars and beautiful brown-skinned girls. Now they also have the Go-Go and it's just as fast, frantic and exciting as it is anywhere. On this recording, Martin Denny proves it to the hilt; encouraged by the enthusiasm of the crowd, he swings and rocks through some of the top Hawaiian hits associated with his name to give you the beat of the frug, monkey, watusi, etc. On everyone [sic] of the selections you will hear the "hip"-notic frenzie [sic] and handclapping excitement from the enthusiastic crowd. The spirit of this dancing crowd will likewise catch you when you hear the tunes. In addition to the Hawaiian selections, add some top mainland favorites and you have Martin Denny, just what the party ordered." -Liner note on "Hawaii Goes a-Go-Go!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) Amsterdam and herb Date: 05 Jun 2001 14:59:37 +0200 Unless this is some ultra-rare North Korean mono pressing with the wrong track listing, I would say that would be utter nonsense. Even the rip-off joints would be ashamed to ask more than 3-5 UK Pounds. I guess the average price nowadays would be between 30 pence and 1.50 G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk wrote: > Perhaps one of our Dutch friends can answer. > > A friend of mine has just returned from Amsterdam (and Ed, he swears he only > spent a little time in the cafes, didn't drink much and stayed well away > from the prostitutes, even though he's English). And he tells me that he > saw Herb Alpert LP's going for the equivalent of 10 UKPounds (say 15 US > Dollars at the moment). > > Can this be true, or did he only see them in the ridiculous rip-off joints > that only price things up for the foolish? > > If its true, perhaps Robbie can take a few over to finance his trip. and > perhaps the rest of us can run an importing scan with Ed shipping over > surplus copies of 'Going Places' (bizarrely the Herb LP I see most in > charity shops). > > El Maestro Con Queso # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: (exotica) Long time no post Date: 05 Jun 2001 14:22:25 +0100 I haven't been second hand record shopping for so long now and I really miss it. I am now directing my accumulatory habits towards the world of Cuban film posters. But I digress. Does anybody know an album by Please, called Please? I think its a funk record from the Philippines. Anybody? Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour Date: 05 Jun 2001 08:46:05 -0500 Check out this week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast as we sample the new Basta reissue of Dean Elliott's classic "Zounds! What Sounds!". Also, you'll find tracks from the new "Fantomas" CD, and one of the "Kriminalfilmmusik" CDs, featuring music from German crime thrillers of the '60s; crime jazz on a budget from "Stakeout on Dope Street"; the Ursula Shake from "The 10th Victim"; tunes by Ferrante and Teicher, Tony Hatch, Al Caiola and Pete Rugolo; 101 Strings and the orgasmic moans of Bebe Bardon; plus new stuff by Les Hommes and Dead Ringer. To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour on the web, just visit: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html As always, comments welcome. Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obit] Francis Bebey Date: 05 Jun 2001 11:57:54 -0400 Francis Bebey 31 May 2001 Francis Bebey, novelist and musician: born Douala, Cameroon 15 July 1929; married (two sons, one daughter); died Paris 28 May 2001. Francis Bebey was a one-man poet, playwright, storyteller and novelist and an accomplished musician. In 1968 he won the Grand Prix Littéraire de l'Afrique Noir for his novel, published a year earlier, Le fils d'Agathe Moudio (translated as Agatha Moudio's Son, 1971). From then on, he did not stop writing. Some of his other publications dwelt extensively on traditional African music, including Musique de l'Afrique (1969, translated as African Music: a people's art in 1975) and Le Roi Albert d'Effidi (1976, published as King Albert, 1981). In his own musical creation there is that deep African rhythm that no other African had attempted to make a permanent feature. His discovery and use of the ndewhoo, as he called the fantastic pygmy one-note flute, and the sanza or the thumb piano, are a clear example of this. These two instruments embellished most of his recordings from the mid-1990s onwards. Bebey was born in 1929. After education in his native Cameroon, and in France and the United States, he spent most of his working life with Unesco's Information Services in Paris and rose to become the head of the music department before retiring in 1974 to consecrate his life to creative writing. He combined his writing skills with composing music. I first met him in 1980 after a concert in the northern French city of Rouen. His voice then still reverberates in my mind. He was a good conversationalist; a polyglot, he glided over the language barrier that usually confronts the African intellectual, and sang in English, French and Douala. His quest for more knowledge, even in his retirement, was typified in his mélange of rhythms from all corners of the world. He blended original African rhythms with those of Latin America, Asia, Europe and everywhere he went. But even so, his "African roots" permeated all his recordings. One French critic described Bebey's art as a blend of superb classical guitar technique, a wonderfully expressive voice and suddenly melancholy melodies, and this combination can be heard distinctively on "Ethnic Covenant", "Etum! Etum! Etum!" and "Dibiye". Songs like "Mbira Dance", "Canto Bantou", "La Condition Masculine", "Akwaaba" and "Lettre à ma bien-aimé" are often deceptively simple lullabies, with the thumb piano and one-note pygmy flute creating the tinkling sound of seeds, murmuring in the forest and gently running water. He was not a commercial musician, but his soothing baritone voice, his well thought-out, poetic lyrics and perfect blend of sound made him a first-class composer, musician and artist by any standard. He was hardly ever without humour. He would transform a melancholic situation into a cheerful moment. Each time I visited Bebey in his home in Paris, we spoke about Africa. He was a real connoisseur of the continent, who did not mix up historical facts and reality. He was a man who always saw Africa and Africans at the top of everything they did and a man without an iota of complex. Bebey's novels demonstrate his close observation of society's strengths and weaknesses. He was close to his readers. But, even if he was a man of letters, it is music that runs in his family. His son, Toups, made a number of recordings with him and recently released his first album. His elder son, Patrick, composes songs for Francophone artists based in France, and his daughter, Kiddy, edits a French children's magazine, Planet Jeune. --George Ola-Davies http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1FRANCIS|BEBEY http://www.google.com/search?q=%22francis+bebey%22 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=music&field-keywords=francis%20bebey&bq=1/ref=aps_more_pm_1/103-9693308-1879010 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: Re: (exotica) journey to the stars Date: 06 Jun 2001 00:05:09 +0800 > >there are two short tracks from some film called > "aniara" composed by karl-birger blomdahl. i've never heard of that. anyone > know anything about that composer or the film? > william in taipei. > ============== > Odd that they included some of Aniara on that disc since it isn't a film but a Swadish Sci-Fi opera. Here's the allclassical.com description: > lousmith@pipeline.com well, after posting that i actually read the booklet that came with the cd. and i think it was included mainly because it was the only opera to take place on a space ship! well, that's what the liner notes say, somehow i suspect somewhere there must be some little opera that has a scene on a space ship, and if there isn't maybe there should be. by the way, does anyone know if there was ever an ost for "spiderbaby" released? or some compilation somewhere with some of the music from it? the dvd finally arrived in the mail tonite and while watching it again i realized i really dig the music. it seems like the music is sort of on the short side so it might not fill up a complete album or anything. william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: Re: (exotica) journey to the stars Date: 05 Jun 2001 12:06:37 -0500 > by the way, does anyone know if there was ever an ost for "spiderbaby" > released? or some compilation somewhere with some of the music from it? > the dvd finally arrived in the mail tonite and while watching it again i > realized i really dig the music. it seems like the music is sort of on the > short side so it might not fill up a complete album or anything. Check out "Not Of This Earth: Film Music Of Ronald Stein" on Varese Sarabande, which has tunes from Spider Baby, Attack of the 50 Foot Woman, Dementia 13, The Terror and Not of This Earth. Lon Chaney, Jr. sings the theme from Spider Baby! Also includes a great track of Lon and Ron rehearsing the theme in a studio somewhere in Mexico. Great stuff!!! Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jenna Subject: (exotica) Re: Road trip-Route 66 Date: 05 Jun 2001 13:34:43 -0400 "Roadside Peek" has some great stuff on Rt 66 - and everything else of Roadside Americana interest... http://www.roadsidepeek.com/rte66/index.htm jenna > Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:02:57 -0500 > From: "Colleen Pyles" > Subject: (exotica) Road trip-Route 66 > > Hi guys, > have been lurking a lot lately, busy at work and my sister has just > been diagnosed with breast cancer and that has taken up a lot of my > time. But here's the deal, we're gonna take my sister on a road trip > on ROUTE 66. Has anyone done this? I know a lot has been lost to > the interstate, but I hear there's a lot still left of the Mother > Road. If anyone knows anything, let me know. I think it could be a > lot of fun. > > > Colleen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Road trip-Route 66 Date: 05 Jun 2001 14:08:58 -0400 >But here's the deal, we're gonna take my sister on a road trip >on ROUTE 66. Has anyone done this? I know a lot has been lost to >the interstate, but I hear there's a lot still left of the Mother >Road. If anyone knows anything, let me know. I think it could be a >lot of fun. Check out the National Historic Route 66 Federation: http://www.national66.com/ They have some maps and guidebooks for sale on their 66 Superstore page: http://www.national66.com/super_store/index.html (can't vouch for them) Check their links page for more sources: http://www.national66.com/sources1.html hope that helps, m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Amsterdam and herb Date: 05 Jun 2001 16:03:31 +0200 Speaking of les herbes des provence Nederlands... Ton sent me this cute report... of course the German authorities run amok, but they can't stop it due to the fabulous contract of Schengen... Venlo, Netherlands. Dutch authorities plan to open two drive-thru shops next year where "drug tourists" can buy marijuana and hashish. The officials want to make it easier on Germans who flock to the Dutch border town for drugs by opening two coffee shops with drive-thrus selling drugs such as marijuana and hashish. Drug tourists draw street dealers selling illicit harder drugs, creating "an environment that generally makes ordinary people feel unsafe," said a Venlo spokeswoman. She couldn't say exactly what the shops will offer, but she said they would not be like Amsterdam cafes where visitors can enjoy a cup of coffee and a joint, but no hard drugs or liquor. I LOVE Holland! Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HEDCANDY@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Salvation Army vs. Goodwill Date: 05 Jun 2001 19:30:32 EDT Hi, Here in central Florida I have come to discover that the Salvation Army takes what Goodwill can't sell. A manager at a central Goodwill hipped my wife to this.So, in addition to whatever they receive normally, this may explain why Salvation Army winds up with so much drek (Records scratched beyond comprehension, torn sleeves, no records). To be honest, I have all but stopped going to flea markets or Salvation Armies to find vinyl. It just isn't there. The out-of-the-way junk shops and independent thrift stores are what you need to seek out. On an up note... I just found a mint copy of Lil' Markie - The Abortion Boy LP at favorite junk shop of mine! What a treat! It contains the hit song "Why Did You Kill Me, Mommie" sung by an adult skewering his voice into what sounds like a very poor Roger Rabbit impression... (supposed to be a 4 year old). Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Graham Newton Subject: (exotica) ID wanted: Snake dance, Snake Charmer, Hoochie Koochie, Hula-Hula Dance Date: 05 Jun 2001 20:01:29 -0400 There have been apparently many names for this piece over the years. Everyone has probably heard it in Warner Brothers or other cartoons, and on various old radio shows as a "gag" piece, but nobody has been able to identify it positively or suggest a composer. Names like Snake Dance, Snake Charmer, Hoochie Koochie, and Hula-Hula Dance have been suggested, but nothing can be found on these. It is possible that it is one of those "traditional" or "public domain" pieces that have been lost in time. A pianist friend played 4 variations on a synthesizer so you can actually hear what it is. Here's the piece played on a few different instruments that may tweak your memory. Can anyone put a name to this? Piano version: http://208.56.170.136/SNAKE1.mp3 Harmony version: http://208.56.170.136/SNAKE2.mp3 Clarinet version: http://208.56.170.136/SNAKE3.mp3 English horn version: http://208.56.170.136/SNAKE4.mp3 Just click on the above links to hear them. Meanwhile, if the musical notes do anything for you here it is:- Key = d Minor D E F E D, D E F A E F D, F G A A Bb A G E, F G G A G F, D E F E D, D E F A E F D ... Graham Newton -- Audio Restoration by Graham Newton, http://www.audio-restoration.com World class professional services applied to phonograph and tape recordings for consumers and re-releases, featuring CEDAR processes. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Casino Royale with Cheese Date: 06 Jun 2001 05:12:26 -0700 (PDT) That's it. Nice sound. I have a mono copy as well (2S). I wonder how many times this version has sold for $$$ on E-Bay. --- "Br. Cleve" wrote: > It's in the run off groove - the pressing that the > audophiles search for is > the one with 3S etched in the groove, after all the > matrix numbers. ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lenkei Subject: (exotica) NY exotica Date: 06 Jun 2001 12:51:02 -0400 (EDT) I just got this message from someone in London. The only NY lounge/exotica thing I can think of is the Bar d'O thing once a month. Anyone else have any suggestions? Hi There... I just came across your site...I live in LOndon and shall be in NY from 15-22nd June. Could you possibly recommend some good bars/ club playing lounge, exotica, etc? I would be most grateful...thanks a bunch Emmanuelle Morgan x ++++++++++++++++++++ Lenkei Design www.lenkeidesign.com ++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit The Exotica Review As many exotica/lounge record reviews as possible! on the web at: www.bway.net/~er ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) NY exotica Date: 06 Jun 2001 13:06:51 -0400 on 6/6/01 12:51 PM, Bruce Lenkei at lenkei@echonyc.com wrote: Unfortunately, the In Hi-Fi party at Bar d'O this month is the night before, on June 14 (with guest dj's The Millionaire and Chuck Kelley from Luxuriamusic). The next one is JUly 12, with me and Jimmy B. Ursula 1000 plays Sunday nights at The Apartment (Hudson and 14th), although his sets these days are pretty exclusively house and breakbeat, though you may hear some of the loungier breaks like Resident Filters or Skeewif (who cover Esquivels' "Miniskirt" on their new album and 12"). br cleve > > > I just got this message from someone in London. The only NY lounge/exotica > thing I can think of is the Bar d'O thing once a month. Anyone else > have any suggestions? > > ------------------------------------- > Hi There... > > I just came across your site...I live in LOndon and shall be in NY from > 15-22nd June. Could you possibly recommend some good bars/ club playing > lounge, exotica, etc? I would be most grateful...thanks a bunch # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: (exotica) Il Giaguaro lounge fest Date: 06 Jun 2001 13:12:55 -0400 If any listees are planning on attending this weekends Il Giaguaro Expo in Cesnatico, Italy, please step up and say hi. Combustible Edison 2001 (which is me and The Millionaire dj'ing, along with Miss Lily Banquette on vocals, singing ComEd songs and other assorted faves in a nuevo karoaoke style) play Friday at midnight, after dj sets by Nicola Conte, Popshopping and Maxwell Implosion. Saturday night features performances by Montefiori Cocktail, Vip2000, Les Hommes, Sam Paglia and others. The whole thing promises to be a spectacular event. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) Il Giaguaro =?iso-8859-1?B?oGxvdW5nZQ==?= fest Date: 06 Jun 2001 14:06:01 -0500 Hey, Br. Cleve, does this mean Combustible Edison is back together???? ---- Begin Original Message ---- Sent: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 13:12:55 -0400 If any listees are planning on attending this weekends Il Giaguaro Expo in Cesnatico, Italy, please step up and say hi. Combustible Edison 2001 (which is me and The Millionaire dj'ing, along with Miss Lily Banquette on vocals, singing ComEd songs and other assorted faves in a nuevo karoaoke style) play Friday at midnight, after dj sets by Nicola Conte, Popshopping and Maxwell Implosion. Saturday night features performances by Montefiori Cocktail, Vip2000, Les Hommes, Sam Paglia and others. The whole thing promises to be a spectacular event. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ---- End Original Message ---- Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) Road trip-Route 66 Date: 06 Jun 2001 14:11:46 -0500 I was raised in Arizona and saw a lot of Rt. 66 in the southwest, have not seen the northern part. I'm anxious to see that, although the south west part is sooo unique. "Last stop for gas/water 300 miles"..... Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Il Giaguaro =?ISO-8859-1?B?oA==?=lounge fest Date: 06 Jun 2001 15:58:17 -0400 on 6/6/01 3:06 PM, Colleen Pyles at colleen7@ireland.com wrote: > Hey, Br. Cleve, does this mean Combustible Edison is back together???? not in the traditional sense, no. We are not playing as a band, and it's only 3 of us - with 2 of us DJ'ing only. But there will be some surprising news in the coming months. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 06 Jun 2001 17:44:43 -0400 Hi, my name is Randy and I'm new to the list but am looking forward to hearing what you have to say -- and hopefully I will be able to contribute some things as well. Like a lot of people, I saw old pictures of my parents -- who are definitely not hip -- but indulging in the spirit of the times during the 50s and 60s and I look back jealously on the fashions and things they did in what was then just popular culture, not retro. Anyway, I love cocktail-making and how exotica stuff symbolizes just having good times with a shaker, some good music and friends. Kind of a general question, but does anyone have some good suggestions on some compilation CDs that would be good for someone looking to start collecting exotica music? There are just so many out there and I would appreciate any advice. Randy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCckert?= Subject: (exotica) Jazz 1 Date: 06 Jun 2001 23:58:25 +0200 =20 The following article in today's New York Times happens to coincide with Ken Burns' series starting coming Saturday on BBC 2. After the stir "Jazz" caused among the Northamericans on this list I'm curious=20 about how it's going to be perceived over here. Cheers, Ton Europeans Cut in With a New Jazz Sound and Beat By STUART NICHOLSON LONDON -- FOR years Americans have regarded European jazz with the same tolerant smile they reserve for Japanese baseball. But something is stirring in the Old World. A generation of musicians is emerging from Europe's jazz underground, and now they're raising a tolerant smile at the mention of American jazz. Talk to them about the current state of the music, and it's as if an old and dear friend has passed away. They believe American jazz is retreating into the past while Europe is moving the music into the 21st century. The highly praised Norwegian pianist Bugge Wesseltoft spoke for many recently when he said: "I think American jazz somehow has really stopped, maybe in the late 70's, early 80's. I haven't heard one interesting American record in the last 20 years. It's like a museum, presenting stuff that's already been done." In the past, European musicians largely marched in step to whatever developments were coming out of America, striving to keep abreast of successive shocks announcing the new beginning with ragtime. But now a small group of musicians, most notably in France and Scandinavia, is taking the creative initiative and going its own way with the music. These musicians are embracing the liberating potential of jazz as dance music, taking elements from the European house, techno, drum 'n' bass and jungle scenes, and in so doing are re-establishing jazz's long lost links with popular culture. It is unlikely, however, that the new music will be in evidence at this year's JVC Jazz Festival, which begins in two weeks. The music, called the European new jazz by musicians and critics, is not strictly acoustic, like much of mainstream American jazz, yet neither is it completely electronic. Bending improvisation around familiar and unfamiliar sounds and rhythms, this European jazz is moving out of the jazz club and into club culture, and young people are willing to line up around the block to hear it. While there have been experiments by American jazz musicians in combining jazz and hip-hop, like Miles Davis's "Doo Bop," Gary Thomas's "Overkill" and Don Byron's "Nu Blaxploitation," the results merely confirmed the seeming incompatibility of jazz and rap. In contrast, drum 'n' bass is not too far removed from driving jazz rhythms and can easily accommodate jazz improvisation. This reliance on specifically European club-culture styles differentiates the new music from the kind of experimental jazz coming from the Chicago underground and the New York downtown scene. A feature of the European jazz is that the rhythms are a mixture of acoustic and sampled sounds. Electric basses are out, upright basses are in, and drum kits are pared down to snare, bass drum, high-hat and cymbals. Turntables and samples create haunting, often ambient backdrops against which the improviser plies his craft. The Norwegian trumpet player Nils Petter Molvaer, who has studied North African styles, makes music that is a mix of ethnic roots and modernity. In his playing, the minimalistic grooves of European house easily relate to African music. Similarly, some accents in rhythms like 7/8 and 9/16 are based in an old tradition of North African ethnic music; when played with electronic delays, they appear to make the rhythms float within the ambient soundscape. Not surprisingly this new European music has raised cries of "is this jazz?" from purists both in America and in Europe. That question always greets experimentation in any artistic genre. Fans of New Orleans traditionalism similarly railed at the popularity of the big bands in the 30's and be-bop in the 40's. Even today, free jazz and Miles Davis's electric music, for some, hold a tenuous place in jazz history. Certainly, European new jazz is not what jazz was but is a vision of what it can be. Nor does it compete with jazz's past achievements in the way today's jazz mainstream is doing. If jazz history tells us anything, it is that the music, until the last decade or so, has always been a reflection of its time. The new European jazz is unmistakably music of today. "European jazz has liberated straight- ahead jazz from its harbor and has sailed away," said the French pianist Laurent de Wilde, who played on the New York scene for several years. "Keeping tradition is a great thing, but it's not the only thing. You have to keep tradition but at the same time keep= evolving." Therein lies a fascinating European paradox. At the turn of the 20th century, many European artists blamed "the tradition" of Western culture for stifling creativity, particularly in classical music. The composer Darius Milhaud and other French artists of his generation, including Ravel and the Paris-based Stravinsky, looked beyond European traditions to the vitality and exuberance of jazz . Milhaud's 1923 ballet "La Cr=E9ation du Monde" was hailed for its strong jazz influences. Now jazz itself is looking beyond its boundaries for a new vitality and exuberance. In France, the enigmatic Ludovic Navarre's group, St. Germain, has had considerable success in combining French house music and jazz. Released last year, the group's album "Tourist" has already sold more than 600,000 copies, mostly in Europe. To put this figure into context, sales of 10,000 in the jazz world represent a hit record. In bars, restaurants, clubs and clothing stores across Europe, St. Germain's "Rose Rouge" has become ubiquitous with its insistent 4/4 vamp and the now-famous sample of Marlena Shaw singing "I want you to get it together."=20 With fluent, lively improvisation from the trumpeter Pascal Ohse, the saxophonist and flutist Edouard Labor, the keyboard player Alexander Destrez and the guitarist and reggae pioneer Ernest Ranglin, St. Germain is reaching young audiences in a way that has relevance for them, through dance =97 just as jaz= z did in the Swing Era. This idea was not lost on Jazz at Lincoln Center, which presented the "For Dancers Only" tour last year. But the title of the tour says it all: it was taken from a 1937 hit record by the Jimmie Lunceford Orchestra. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exoti ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCckert?= Subject: (exotica) Jazz 2 Date: 06 Jun 2001 23:58:33 +0200 The flute virtuoso Malik Mezzadri, who has occasionally played in St. Germain, said recently: "St. Germain has changed the way the public thinks about jazz in France =97 don't put it in a box. You listen, you dance, this is what my generation wants, the dance." Mr. Mezzadri is a charismatic figure on the Paris jazz scene. Mere mention of his name is enough to fill any club there, and the makeup of the musicians and the music on his latest album, "Magic Malik," reflect the racial diversity of Paris, that most cosmopolitan of European cities. "In my band, I have South American, African and Cuban musicians," he said. "I grew up in the West Indies, in Guadeloupe, and this is a population that came from Africa, with slaves." His music is rhythmically unambiguous while bursting with pan-ethnic frissons. Something of the excitement of the current Parisian jazz scene is captured on "Candombe" from the saxophonist Julien Lourau's album "Gambit," which was recorded live at the New Morning Club last year. With Mr. Mezzadri as a featured sideman, the music is intense and compelling as Mr. Lourau's tenor sax riffs mediate the ebb and flow of the powerful drum 'n' bass- influenced grooves. "I want to play for people my own age and even younger because I think jazz is not elitist," Mr. Lourau said. The new crop of Scandinavian jazz artists was inspired by an earlier generation, particularly the Norwegian saxophonist Jan Garbarek, who achieved international recognition on the Munich-based ECM label run by Manfred Eicher. In the mid-90's, young musicians like Mr. Wesseltoft, Mr. Movaer, the drummer Audun Kleive and the guitarist Eivind Aarset, all of whom are Norwegian, rejected the contemplative calm of what Mr. Eicher called the "Nordic tone" and began experimenting with dance-based grooves. Mr. Wesseltoft formed his own record label, Jazzland, and his album, "New Conception of Jazz," sold more than 40,000 copies across Europe =97 remarkable sales for a small independent label. "Jazz is American, of course," he said. "But I feel the techno and electronics scene is more European. The beats I'm using, the grooves, I feel I'm not stealing from the black American music scene." In 1998 Mr. Aarset recorded "Electronique Noir" and created one of the best post- Miles albums. "My approach has come out of the Nordic jazz thing inspired by people like Jan Garbarek and Terje Rypdal, and the serious ECM approach to music mixed with techno beats," he said. Mr. Molvaer's 1997 album, "Khmer," has sold more than 100,000 copies in Europe. It led to Mr. Molvaer's nomination for the prestigious Nordic Council Music Prize 2000 and several awards, including the annual prize of the German Record Critics, and was voted Jazz Record of the Year by LA Weekly. One of the most talked about groups currently on the European circuit is the Esbjorn Svensson Trio (or E.S.T., as they call themselves), which saw its latest album, "Good Morning Susie Soho," shoot to No. 15 on the pop album chart in the group's native Sweden, alongside the likes of Madonna and Radiohead = =97 a significant achievement for a jazz piano trio. Highlights of this album, along with those from his 1999 release, "From Gargarin's Point of View," are to be issued by Sony Jazz in the United States in August as "Somewhere Else Before." Curiously, British jazz musicians have only tentatively embraced the club-culture rhythms that largely emanated from London. The saxophonist Courtney Pine is the best-known exception. His album, "Back in the Day," shows that he has moved a considerable distance from the 1980's, when he was seen as Europe's Wynton Marsalis. (He even recorded with Mr. Marsalis's father, Ellis). His latest album uses samples and computer-generated rhythm tracks, underpinning some torrid soloing on soprano and tenor saxophone. ALL these Europeans readily acknowledge that jazz is America's gift to the world. But what impact will this fast-changing European scene have on American jazz? Initially, the effect is most likely to be felt financially. Money, as Cyndi Lauper once famously sang, changes everything. Europe has historically been a key market for American jazz in album sales, in its extensive festival circuit and in year-round gigs. Just how important was once highlighted by a comment made by George Wein, the producer of the JVC festival: "No Europe, no jazz." If American jazz remains fixed in the certainties of the mainstream, European jazz musicians may move into the space long occupied by Americans. Indeed, Mr. Svensson is doing just that. Recently he was on the cover of two major German jazz magazines as well as the influential French magazine Jazzman. He was also hailed by the German news weekly Der Spiegel as "The Future of Jazz Piano" (along with the American pianist Brad Mheldau), and his "Good Morning Susie Soho" was named album of the year in a poll conducted by the critics of the British magazine Jazzwise, an award that has hitherto been the province of American jazz albums. The emergence of the European new jazz poses the intriguing question of whether American jazz can maintain its stance without lapsing even further into high-art marginality, given its dependence on the European market. As the American saxophonist and clarinetist Michael Moore, who now lives in the Netherlands, put it recently: "In America there's more pressure to be conformist, and players can work a lot more if they play tunes in a traditional way. In Europe there's a larger audience that grew up listening to experimental jazz over a 25- year period, and they appreciate not hearing the same thing all the time."=20 Suddenly there is real possibility that the stewardship of the music may no longer remain exclusively American. "Europe is going to be the place for jazz," Mr. Svensson said. "We're ready now. We like to sound different." = =20 Stuart Nicholson is a London-based music critic and author. His most recent book is ``Reminiscing in Tempo: A Portrait of Duke Ellington'' (Northeastern University Press).=20 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***=20 *** Ton R=FCckert Mozartstraat 12 5914RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto 31/0 773545386 *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.psychedelicado.com ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ca@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCckert?= Subject: (exotica) Jazz 2 Date: 07 Jun 2001 00:04:16 +0200 The flute virtuoso Malik Mezzadri, who has occasionally played in St. Germain, said recently: "St. Germain has changed the way the public thinks about jazz in France =97 don't put it in a box. You listen, you dance, this is what my generation wants, the dance." Mr. Mezzadri is a charismatic figure on the Paris jazz scene. Mere mention of his name is enough to fill any club there, and the makeup of the musicians and the music on his latest album, "Magic Malik," reflect the racial diversity of Paris, that most cosmopolitan of European cities. "In my band, I have South American, African and Cuban musicians," he said. "I grew up in the West Indies, in Guadeloupe, and this is a population that came from Africa, with slaves." His music is rhythmically unambiguous while bursting with pan-ethnic frissons. Something of the excitement of the current Parisian jazz scene is captured on "Candombe" from the saxophonist Julien Lourau's album "Gambit," which was recorded live at the New Morning Club last year. With Mr. Mezzadri as a featured sideman, the music is intense and compelling as Mr. Lourau's tenor sax riffs mediate the ebb and flow of the powerful drum 'n' bass- influenced grooves. "I want to play for people my own age and even younger because I think jazz is not elitist," Mr. Lourau said. The new crop of Scandinavian jazz artists was inspired by an earlier generation, particularly the Norwegian saxophonist Jan Garbarek, who achieved international recognition on the Munich-based ECM label run by Manfred Eicher. In the mid-90's, young musicians like Mr. Wesseltoft, Mr. Movaer, the drummer Audun Kleive and the guitarist Eivind Aarset, all of whom are Norwegian, rejected the contemplative calm of what Mr. Eicher called the "Nordic tone" and began experimenting with dance-based grooves. Mr. Wesseltoft formed his own record label, Jazzland, and his album, "New Conception of Jazz," sold more than 40,000 copies across Europe =97 remarkable sales for a small independent label. "Jazz is American, of course," he said. "But I feel the techno and electronics scene is more European. The beats I'm using, the grooves, I feel I'm not stealing from the black American music scene." In 1998 Mr. Aarset recorded "Electronique Noir" and created one of the best post- Miles albums. "My approach has come out of the Nordic jazz thing inspired by people like Jan Garbarek and Terje Rypdal, and the serious ECM approach to music mixed with techno beats," he said. Mr. Molvaer's 1997 album, "Khmer," has sold more than 100,000 copies in Europe. It led to Mr. Molvaer's nomination for the prestigious Nordic Council Music Prize 2000 and several awards, including the annual prize of the German Record Critics, and was voted Jazz Record of the Year by LA Weekly. One of the most talked about groups currently on the European circuit is the Esbjorn Svensson Trio (or E.S.T., as they call themselves), which saw its latest album, "Good Morning Susie Soho," shoot to No. 15 on the pop album chart in the group's native Sweden, alongside the likes of Madonna and Radiohead = =97 a significant achievement for a jazz piano trio. Highlights of this album, along with those from his 1999 release, "From Gargarin's Point of View," are to be issued by Sony Jazz in the United States in August as "Somewhere Else Before." Curiously, British jazz musicians have only tentatively embraced the club-culture rhythms that largely emanated from London. The saxophonist Courtney Pine is the best-known exception. His album, "Back in the Day," shows that he has moved a considerable distance from the 1980's, when he was seen as Europe's Wynton Marsalis. (He even recorded with Mr. Marsalis's father, Ellis). His latest album uses samples and computer-generated rhythm tracks, underpinning some torrid soloing on soprano and tenor saxophone. ALL these Europeans readily acknowledge that jazz is America's gift to the world. But what impact will this fast-changing European scene have on American jazz? Initially, the effect is most likely to be felt financially. Money, as Cyndi Lauper once famously sang, changes everything. Europe has historically been a key market for American jazz in album sales, in its extensive festival circuit and in year-round gigs. Just how important was once highlighted by a comment made by George Wein, the producer of the JVC festival: "No Europe, no jazz." If American jazz remains fixed in the certainties of the mainstream, European jazz musicians may move into the space long occupied by Americans. Indeed, Mr. Svensson is doing just that. Recently he was on the cover of two major German jazz magazines as well as the influential French magazine Jazzman. He was also hailed by the German news weekly Der Spiegel as "The Future of Jazz Piano" (along with the American pianist Brad Mheldau), and his "Good Morning Susie Soho" was named album of the year in a poll conducted by the critics of the British magazine Jazzwise, an award that has hitherto been the province of American jazz albums. The emergence of the European new jazz poses the intriguing question of whether American jazz can maintain its stance without lapsing even further into high-art marginality, given its dependence on the European market. As the American saxophonist and clarinetist Michael Moore, who now lives in the Netherlands, put it recently: "In America there's more pressure to be conformist, and players can work a lot more if they play tunes in a traditional way. In Europe there's a larger audience that grew up listening to experimental jazz over a 25- year period, and they appreciate not hearing the same thing all the time."=20 Suddenly there is real possibility that the stewardship of the music may no longer remain exclusively American. "Europe is going to be the place for jazz," Mr. Svensson said. "We're ready now. We like to sound different." = =20 Stuart Nicholson is a London-based music critic and author. His most recent book is ``Reminiscing in Tempo: A Portrait of Duke Ellington'' (Northeastern University Press).=20 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***=20 *** Ton R=FCckert Mozartstraat 12 5914RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto 31/0 773545386 *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.psychedelicado.com ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Penna Subject: (exotica) Re: ID wanted: Snake dance... Date: 06 Jun 2001 16:38:03 -0700 You're right, this thing often gets asked about in cartoon forums. Since a lot of familiar but hard-to-nail-down cartoon melodies came from theme books written for use in accompanying silent films (Carl Stalling started out doing that,e actually), I've posed the question on the alt.movies.silent newsgroup, wher a number of silent film music experts and accompnists hang out. I'll let you know if there are any replies. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 06 Jun 2001 20:51:07 EDT Welcome Randy...Cocktail Nation, still forming, is always hoping new members board the train...Our engine is just fine, but we're still deciding whether to go freight or passenger....You are a contribution to the latter hopefully...James Botticelli # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz 2 Date: 06 Jun 2001 20:55:29 EDT In a message dated 6/6/1 5:05:19 PM, mojoto@plex.nl wrote: >ALL these Europeans readily acknowledge that jazz is >America's gift to the world. There is a sign greeting visitors to Trenton, NJ, USA. It reads thusly: "Trenton Makes, The World Takes" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) Lil' Markie Date: 06 Jun 2001 18:35:27 -0700 I love the Lil' Markie record! I never thought I'd see/hear of another copy! I guess I wanted to believe mine was the only one in existence. But better yet I want to believe there are others. It seems to me like Little Marcy was the inspiration, except there doesn't seem to be any kind of weird puppet action. Still, the idea of an adult trying to sound like a child singing about being a drug addict at age 3 is pretty jaw-dropping. Why did you kill me mommy? indeed! Mr. Unlucky Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obit] Marvin ``Smokey'' Montgomery, Michael Hazlewood Date: 07 Jun 2001 06:25:17 -0400 DALLAS (AP) - Marvin ``Smokey'' Montgomery, the longtime banjo picker for the seminal Western swing band The Light Crust Doughboys, died Wednesday after a long battle with leukemia. He was 88. Montgomery joined the band in 1935, four years after it was founded, and was still performing as late as last month. The band was nominated for three Grammy awards in recent years. ``I'll get ladies in their 70s coming up and saying, `I listened to you in grade school,''' Montgomery said in 1996. ``I can't play quite as fast as I used to, but I can still keep up.'' The Light Crust Doughboys were founded in 1931 by W. Lee ``Pappy'' O'Daniel to advertise his Fort Worth-based flour company, Burrus Mill, and its Light Crust Flour. It was a pioneer in the style of Western swing, a combination of jazz, country blues and fiddle music. In their heyday, The Light Crust Doughboys could be heard on 170 radio stations with their signature opening, ``The Light Crust Doughboys are on the air!'' Montgomery joined the band in 1935, around the time Bob Wills, Western swing's greatest star, left to start the Texas Playboys. ``We'd pull into the square in some little town that didn't have but 5,000 people living in it, and there would be 10,000 people in the crowd,'' Montgomery once recalled. Montgomery regrouped the band after World War II intervened and split it up. Their repertoire included old cowboy songs, Spanish classics and what was then popularly called ``hillbilly'' music. But they played a hymn every day, Montgomery said, and avoided dance halls or honky-tonks. ``That's why Bob Wills left the band. He wanted to play the dances, and the Doughboys didn't do that,'' Montgomery said. The Doughboys quit recording in 1985, and Montgomery appeared only occasionally with the band. But newcomer Art Greenhaw persuaded the members to regroup in 1993. The group shared a Grammy nomination this year in the category of Southern, country or bluegrass gospel album for ``The Great Gospel Hit Parade: From Memphis to Nashville to Texas,'' recorded with James Blackwood and The Jordanaires. Similar collaborations brought Grammy nominations in 1998 and 1999. Montgomery was born Marvin Wetter in Rinard, Iowa. His show business name came from his favorite actor, Robert Montgomery. ================ Variety has a belated report of the death of Michael Hazlewood, who co-wrote (with Albert Hammond) the songs "The Air That I Breathe" and "It Never Rains in Southern California." Hazlewood died of a heart attack on May 6 while on vacation in Italy. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010605/re/people_hazlewood_dc_1.html ====== Don Dixon, co-producer of the first two REM albums, suffered a heart attack and had a quadruple bypass last Thursday. He is currently recovering at home.He is still married to Marti Jones and is working on her next album. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz 1 Date: 07 Jun 2001 11:26:24 +0100 Ton Rückert wrote: > > > > The following article in today's New York Times happens to coincide > with Ken Burns' series starting coming Saturday on BBC 2. After the > stir "Jazz" caused among the Northamericans on this list I'm curious > about how it's going to be perceived over here. > Well, The Guardian had an article the other week, entitled 'Jazz: The Obituary' ( http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4192193,00.html ) The series they're about to show here is slightly shortened evidently, and they're also showing it on consecutive days which is really odd. (and inconvenient) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: (exotica) Hello Kitty! Date: 07 Jun 2001 11:11:32 I believe we were discussing Hello Kitty http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Drive/4406/hk_vibrator.htm Is it really new though? rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Road trip-Route 66 Date: 07 Jun 2001 05:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Yes. Every time I begin to lose patience with the 90 degree snakebreeding jungle heat out my way, I check the weather in Phoenix and think of my pals there in their asbestos togas in the steady 115 degree blaze (they say with all the asphalt there it doesn't get all that cool at night anymore). Stopped there on the way to Las Vegas last summer. I could smell my hair curling as I stepped off the plane. Strangely beautiful state, though. --- Colleen Pyles wrote: > I was raised in Arizona and saw a lot of Rt. 66 in > the southwest, > have not seen the northern part. I'm anxious to see > that, although > the south west part is sooo unique. "Last stop for > gas/water 300 > miles"..... ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Penna Subject: (exotica) Snake Dance info Date: 07 Jun 2001 08:14:55 -0700 Graham Newton wrote: >There have been apparently many names for this piece over the years. >Everyone has probably heard it in Warner Brothers or other cartoons, and on >various old radio shows as a "gag" piece, but nobody has been able to identify >it positively or suggest a composer. Someone on alt.movies.silent responded with this URL, which tells just about everything one would want to know: http://www.shira.net/streets-of-cairo.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: Re: (exotica) Snake Dance info Date: 07 Jun 2001 11:23:02 -0400 It's funny, because that made me think of that other song. It's sort of Persian and I believe it was used in that Bugs Bunny cartoon with the genie (voiced by Jim Backus). I'm sure you guys know the one I'm talking about I hope. It's usually used to establish that something is taking place in Persia and played as you see a wide shot of a Persian city. It's placed on that same type of snake charmer flute. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Graham Newton Subject: (exotica) Snake Dance info Date: 07 Jun 2001 11:50:57 -0400 Paul Penna wrote: > Someone on alt.movies.silent responded with this URL, which tells just > about everything one would want to know: > http://www.shira.net/streets-of-cairo.htm Others had already pointed me to that... thanks anyway, and yes it does answer all the questions. For those who are interested, the sheet music can be found here:- http://levysheetmusic.mse.jhu.edu/advancedsearch.html Search on "cairo" to find it. ... Graham Newton -- Audio Restoration by Graham Newton, http://www.audio-restoration.com World class professional services applied to phonograph and tape recordings for consumers and re-releases, featuring CEDAR processes. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Date: 07 Jun 2001 17:58:42 +0200 Since there are 3 albums out now by the High Llamas, it's time to mention= this eminent soft pop band again. I knew "Cold And Bouncy" for quite a w= hile and always enjoyed it. The other two albums are called "Buzzle Bee" = and "Snowbug", I think I like "Buzzle Bee" the best, although the music o= f all three albums doesn't sound that different, because the musical rang= e of this band is slightly narrow. Maybe this is because all songs are co= mposed by one person, who I think is the band leader, Sean O'Hagan. In a = postive way you could say, the High Llamas found their style, they know w= hat they want and the listener is rewarded by some nice song lyrics for w= hat s/he might miss in musical diversity. I'm not saying that if you have= heard one song, you've heard them all, no not at all, not that similar. = It's more the general way these songs are made, their rhythm, their harmo= nies, their attitude, that makes them all sound very - homogenous, to say= the least. Their sound reminds one a bit of the Beatles and as a matter = of fact at least one album of theirs was mixed in the Abbey Road Studios.= I also recognize a proximity to the later and more melodic and soft work= s of the band XTC, as in their best album of all times, Unsuch. The High = Llamas are British and you can hear it, but they develop their very own v= ersion of exoticism with a couple of strange instruments, that they use t= o lend from their friends. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de =2E......................................................................= =2E. Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra Date: 07 Jun 2001 17:59:35 +0200 Way coool. Got a copy of House Industries mag #25 in the mail today with an incredible full page Andy Cruz painting of Br. Cleve's very own band on the cover, standing in front of a vermilion colored 2001-type of monolith declared as the road sign of a House Casino Hotel with "its original shareholders" in front, which apparently are Andy Cruz, Br. Cleve etc., you name it... And there's a CD with music by Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra that you can buy for 125$. 125$? Yes, 125$. It comes along with a set of House Industries fonts called Las Vegas... Also I (uhumm!) got a copy of Combustible Edison's "The Impossible World" CD today and for the first time in my life I listened to it! I can't believe how this could happen, it's so unlikely. I mean, I listen to this kind of music half of my life, I'm in the same mailing list with one of the band members and the cover designer of the CD is a friend of mine... and still it could happen that this album didn't get in my way until this very day. It's a great album, not a bit dated... wow, I can't believe what I missed! But of course you all know this anyway, so I better shut up and keep on listening... BTW: Brother Cleve, is there any chance to listen to the material of that House Ind. CD for less than 125$? Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Date: 07 Jun 2001 12:05:18 -0400 Just a quick response to say the High Llamas have more than 3 albums (and I hear more Beach Boys than Beatles in their [his?] stuff): 1992 Santa Barbara 1994 Gideon Gaye 1996 Hawaii 1998 Cold & Bouncy 1999 Snowbug 2000 Buzzle Bee lousmith@pipeline.com Moritz R wrote: > Since there are 3 albums out now by the High Llamas, it's time to mention this eminent soft pop band again. I knew "Cold And Bouncy" for quite a while and always enjoyed it. The other two albums are called "Buzzle Bee" and "Snowbug", I think I like "Buzzle Bee" the best, although the music of all three albums doesn't sound that different, because the musical range of this band is slightly narrow. Maybe this is because all songs are composed by one person, who I think is the band leader, Sean O'Hagan. In a postive way you could say, the High Llamas found their style, they know what they want and the listener is rewarded by some nice song lyrics for what s/he might miss in musical diversity. I'm not saying that if you have heard one song, you've heard them all, no not at all, not that similar. It's more the general way these songs are made, their rhythm, their harmonies, their attitude, that makes them all sound very - homogenous, to say the least. Their sound reminds one a bit ! ! of the Beatles and as a matter of fact at least one album of theirs was mixed in the Abbey Road Studios. I also recognize a proximity to the later and more melodic and soft works of the band XTC, as in their best album of all times, Unsuch. The High Llamas are British and you can hear it, but they develop their very own version of exoticism with a couple of strange instruments, that they use to lend from their friends. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RLott@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Date: 07 Jun 2001 12:07:33 EDT I've loved the Llamas since I heard "Hawaii" in 1996. There's a two-disc version of this that's not to be missed. Also, don't overlook the Llamas remix album, "Lollo Rosso," with cool contributions from Kid Loco, Cornelius and others. --Rod www.hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Date: 07 Jun 2001 17:15:28 +0100 Moritz R wrote: > > Since there are 3 albums out now by the High Llamas, it's time to mention this eminent soft pop band again. I knew "Cold And Bouncy" for quite a while and always enjoyed it. The other two albums are called "Buzzle Bee" and "Snowbug", I think I like "Buzzle Bee" the best, although the music of all three albums doesn't sound There's also 'Gideon Gaye' and 'Hawaii', and a remix album, the title of which i've forgotten offhand... Haven't heard the remix album, but the others are all very good. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Date: 07 Jun 2001 16:32:09 >Just a quick response to say the High Llamas have more than 3 albums (and I >hear more Beach Boys than Beatles in their [his?] stuff): >1992 Santa Barbara >1994 Gideon Gaye >1996 Hawaii >1998 Cold & Bouncy >1999 Snowbug >2000 Buzzle Bee > And prior to that (1990?) Sean O'Hagan had a solo album out called 'High Llamas'. Plus of course he was in seminal 80s Cork band Microdisney (notice the Microdisney mix of a Cornelius tune), they had about 6 albums and a bunch of EPs. And he does Stereolab's string arrangements and plays the odd bit and piece with them. Also did an album with two of them. I have a feeling he was involved in one of the Experimental Audio Research releases. And he played with Will Oldham. Actually he did a lot of other stuff and pops up as a banjo player for people other than Cornelius. He was hired to produce the Beach Boys reunion album with Brian Wilson which never happened about 4-5 years ago but Mike Love (of course) walked out saying he wasn't going to work with an 'English faggot'. Charming man, but I think Sean found the experience of working with them an absolute nightmare. rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bump@defectiverecords.com (Bump Stadelman) Subject: Re: (exotica) Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra Date: 07 Jun 2001 12:45:16 -0400 way cool indeed. i am lucky enough to have a copy of this cd and it is groovin' for sure. can't wait for the full length LP! deep lounge to fast and fun exoticlubhouse, to coin a new phrase. (maybe) (it was nice to hear ol' liberace speaking to me once again) very swank packaging to boot. and i just may buy those fonts too! go bro go! cheers bump >Way coool. Got a copy of House Industries mag #25 in the mail today with >an incredible full page Andy Cruz painting of Br. Cleve's very own band on >the cover, standing in front of a vermilion colored 2001-type of monolith >declared as the road sign of a House Casino Hotel with "its original >shareholders" in front, which apparently are Andy Cruz, Br. Cleve etc., >you name it... > >And there's a CD with music by Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra that you >can buy for 125$. 125$? Yes, 125$. It comes along with a set of House >Industries fonts called Las Vegas... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 07 Jun 2001 11:57:44 -0500 Randy wrote: Anyway, I love cocktail-making and how exotica stuff symbolizes just having good times with a shaker, some good music and friends. **************** Wow, Randy, you just summed up the group!!!! Welcome, you are in the right place. And you entered into your first controversy. Some of of love comps, some of us hate them. If you're just getting started, like me...you love them. But after a while, you want the stuff that's harder to get (like drugs). So you start going to seedy, out of the way places, where you KNOW you'll find that certain record...but you don't...so you start asking around, and someone always knows a place where they found one, but it's not there. So you start gettin' desperate, see, and ya think if you spend a lotta money, you'll find it...so you go to ebay...and they've got it, but it won't come cheap. And before you know it, you're hooked, a monkey's on your back and ya gotta have the stuff. Glassy eyed, you stumble around, spouting things about Perez Prado and Martin Denny...but it's okay, we're your friends, and some of us even have things to sell...heh, heh, heh,heh........ Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 07 Jun 2001 11:57:49 -0500 Randy wrote: Anyway, I love cocktail-making and how exotica stuff symbolizes just having good times with a shaker, some good music and friends. **************** Wow, Randy, you just summed up the group!!!! Welcome, you are in the right place. And you entered into your first controversy. Some of of love comps, some of us hate them. If you're just getting started, like me...you love them. But after a while, you want the stuff that's harder to get (like drugs). So you start going to seedy, out of the way places, where you KNOW you'll find that certain record...but you don't...so you start asking around, and someone always knows a place where they found one, but it's not there. So you start gettin' desperate, see, and ya think if you spend a lotta money, you'll find it...so you go to ebay...and they've got it, but it won't come cheap. And before you know it, you're hooked, a monkey's on your back and ya gotta have the stuff. Glassy eyed, you stumble around, spouting things about Perez Prado and Martin Denny...but it's okay, we're your friends, and some of us even have things to sell...heh, heh, heh,heh........ Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: (exotica) compilation suggestions Date: 08 Jun 2001 01:10:31 +0800 > Kind of a general question, but does anyone have some good suggestions on > some compilation CDs that would be good for someone looking to start > collecting exotica music? There are just so many out there and I would > appreciate any advice. > > Randy welcome to the list randy! i'm sure by now, others have given you some fine reccomendations. i'd reccomend the RCA SPACE AGE POP series: vol. 1. melodies and mischeif vol. 2. mallets in wonderland vol. 3. the stereoaction dimension there's some great stuff on these. esquivel, henri rene, mancini, perez prado, the three suns, ... i believe they are out of print now but you can still find them used. i picked up some of mine on line at http://www.djangos.com/ for a decent price. william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 07 Jun 2001 13:20:39 -0400 On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:57:44 -0500 "Colleen Pyles" writes: > you start gettin' desperate, see, and ya think if you spend a lotta > > money, you'll find it...so you go to ebay...and they've got it, but > > it won't come cheap. And before you know it, you're hooked, a > monkey's on your back and ya gotta have the stuff. Thanks for the warm, if bleak, introduction. ;-) Yeah, I can def see where comps are kind of lame to those of you who are more familiar with this music. But I gotta start somewhere. Man, put me on a time machine and send me back to those times for a week or two! Randy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Date: 07 Jun 2001 13:49:29 -0400 At 12:07 PM 6/7/01 EDT, RLott@aol.com wrote: > >I've loved the Llamas since I heard "Hawaii" in 1996. There's a two-disc >version of this that's not to be missed. . This is still my favorite. The second disc is not absolutely necessary, just an interesting bonus. I understand Mo saying all the records sound alike. That's true for most bands but I'd say it's particularly true for the Llamas. I recently tried to make a compilation for someone using the three records I have (I skipped Buzzle Bee) and I couldn't really distinguish one cut from another. Which is not a bad thing but usually it's not a problem for me to come up with the cuts I like more than others. I'm still trying to figure out what happened to make Mo zoom in out of nowhere with a review of the High Llama "oeuvre". Maybe tomorrow someone can give us an overview of the five records put out by the Tindersticks. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SH Subject: (exotica) Es wurde kein Bezug angegeben. Date: 07 Jun 2001 20:13:46 +0100 exotica 1st • Brother Cleve’s new band is on the cover of House Industries new catalogue (which advertises Las Vegas styled/themed fonts) go to http://www.houseindustries.com 2nd • go to http://lupo.besonic.com:80/User/0,1391,g0r0l1t0o0i131349,00.html to listen to a newly downloadable track called The Tiki & The Guitar currently its a short version, I will upload the full length recording tomorrow (friday) 3rd • you might even go to http://lupo.besonic.com:80/User/0,1391,g0r0l1t0o0i206665,FF.html to listen to Wah Factor 3 Hope you find something to enjoy, Kawentzmann # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 07 Jun 2001 14:15:18 -0400 At 11:57 AM 6/7/01 -0500, Colleen Pyles wrote: .>.. And you entered into your first controversy. Some >of of love comps, some of us hate them. If you're just getting >started, like me...you love them. But after a while, you want the >stuff that's harder to get (like drugs).. As someone who avoided the compilations, I have to say that I didn't "hate" them. They just didn't do it for me. And it's not some inherent response to the idea of a compilation. It's about context. Or if you will, "decontextualization". You could say that I didn't like the music enough - on its own - to be able to appreciate it divorced from the original context in which it was released. I needed the object - the pictures, the album cover, the liner notes, the warm crackle of slightly used vinyl. You could say I needed to touch the past. The music wasn't enough for me. Or maybe it's a stubborn streak. I can't allow anyone to do the work for me. But now things have changed somewhat and I make my own compilations and I've gotten rid of 90 percent of the lounge/easy/exotica records I had and I can listen to a tune and it's almost like all that stuff I once needed is in a file somewhere in my head. I can draw on it without needing to hold it in my hand. (I do wish someone had come around at the moment I was getting rid of all the objects. And I could have said "200 dollars and you can have an instant exotica collection".) Anyway welcome to the list Randy. I hope you help revive us old heard-it-all, had-it-all farts. And let me just say a couple more things about compilations versus the original records. What I have to say is actually kind of contradictory (which is no news to anyone who knows me). On the one hand, it turns out that quite a number of the artists and even the particular cuts that you find on these compilations are in fact some of the very best individual cuts you will ever find even if you have the best collection of original records imaginable. It doesn't get much better than "Danny's Inferno" by the Three Suns which I originally heard on a comp. On the other hand, you can go out and pick up any record that kind of looks like it "fits" and maybe you'll never find any of the artists or cuts that are on these comps and you can still have as good a collection of this stuff as someone who went out and got the records he first heard on the compilations. If that makes sense to you. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra Date: 07 Jun 2001 14:24:18 EDT In a message dated 6/7/1 11:53:37 AM, bump@defectiverecords.com wrote: >way cool indeed. >i am lucky enough to have a copy of this cd and it is groovin' for sure. >can't wait for the full length LP! >deep lounge to fast and fun exoticlubhouse, to coin a new phrase. (maybe) >(it was nice to hear ol' liberace speaking to me once again) the voice of Liberace furnished by yours truly ( "and now, we return to the classsicssss" ), the cha cha of Liberace furnished by Byron in Oregon I believe (right Byron?)...the mixdown of course by Br Cleve...It was the first breakbeat thing I watched being done....JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Es wurde kein Bezug angegeben. Date: 07 Jun 2001 14:28:14 EDT In a message dated 6/7/1 1:08:46 PM, Kahuna.K@hamburg.de wrote: >1st =95 Brother Cleve=92s new band is on the cover of House Industries new >catalogue=20 Brother Cleve should be over in Italy about right now for the Lounge Festiva= l=20 up by the Adriatic Sea...along with his betrothed, the bewitching Diane, The= e=20 Millionaire, and Ms Lily Banquette......more news to come! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Paul Conrad, Mahalo Date: 07 Jun 2001 21:14:11 +0200 (CEST) Got a copy of Paul Conrad's "Exotic Paradise" LP the other day. Only issued in Hawaii on Mahalo records. Its a nice record but not really the jungle infected beauty that I imagined it would be, there is no birdcalls (well maybe I have enough of them anyway) allthough the linernotes speak off such. Paul Conrad arranged for both Denny and Lyman, which records I cant say, but I would imagine some quite early ones. On this LP there are covers of Deep Night (a favorite song of mine) that is very good, and somewhat unusual, Shangri-La, In a persian market and My isle of golden dreams. Theres not very much instruments involved, but it still has a rich sound, kinda like Jimmy Namaro trio's "Driftwood" LP. I have listened to it maybe 10 times now and it grows, but maybe it was not worth the 40 dollars I paid for it. There are some other LPs pictured on the backcover, Rene Paulo, Teddy Tanaka etc... Anyone got ideas of other good LPs on Mahalo? Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) the devilish dollar Date: 07 Jun 2001 21:48:14 +0200 (CEST) Its ridiculous! Right now the swedish Krona's value towards the US dollar is 11 SEK for 1 dollar. A few month ago it broke the magic 10 SEK limit. I remember in the 80s when a dollar costed me about 5 SEK. It's strange, ok its a small country, but everything works quite well at the moment, fewer and fewer people unemployed, number three in the world in musical export and so on... One would wish that the Krona was worth more. Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 07 Jun 2001 15:54:35 -0500 AZ wrote: You could say that I didn't like the music enough - on its own - to be able to appreciate it divorced from the original context in which it was released. I needed the object - the pictures, the album cover, the liner notes, the warm crackle of slightly used vinyl. You could say I needed to touch the past. The music wasn't enough for me ******************* Don't ask me why, but this phrase just stunned me. It really makes sense (oops, that's not what I meant, that AZ meant sense). But I can see how you would want "the whole picture, the look, the feel of that era. Very cool. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 07 Jun 2001 15:54:31 -0500 AZ wrote: You could say that I didn't like the music enough - on its own - to be able to appreciate it divorced from the original context in which it was released. I needed the object - the pictures, the album cover, the liner notes, the warm crackle of slightly used vinyl. You could say I needed to touch the past. The music wasn't enough for me ******************* Don't ask me why, but this phrase just stunned me. It really makes sense (oops, that's not what I meant, that AZ meant sense). But I can see how you would want "the whole picture, the look, the feel of that era. Very cool. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 07 Jun 2001 23:23:22 +0200 (CEST) I understand what Alan writes. I feel this too about old music, the original LP is the real thing. Its the smell of a used to be reality that makes the playing thrilling, the fact that someone actually bought this. As a film affacianado I am very disappointed when the tape/dvd/laserdisc does not use the proper artwork from the time the film was originally released. There has been an improvement in America in the latest years, but there are still those very very dull "newly designed in a hurry" sleeve's to look at. You may watch a film in your life for some 5-15 hours perhaps if you got in on tape, but the tape's cover you gotta live with ALL your life. EVEN THOUGH... For new stuff... In these overdesigned times I actually enjoy ugly things more. Advertising from cheap Pizza restaurants. Silly homepages with lots of moving stuff. Ugly cartoon characters made as logotypes for one-man companies by their friends. You know what I mean. Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Hall Subject: (exotica) Seks Bomba Promotional Giggage Mail Date: 07 Jun 2001 17:58:22 -0400 WARNING: CONTAINS EXPLICITLY PROMOTIONAL CRAP Arguably relevant due to the word "martini" being invoked in the 1st or 2nd line of every other review of our disc. We also perform a song from "Bedazzled." So there. 2 Seks Bomba gigs, 2 cities, 2 weeks: NYC: Friday June 8 at the Luna Lounge, NYC with extremely excellent NY surf-dudes the Irreversible Slacks. Admission is free, so you're all on the guest list... times, address, etc all below. Bomba time 11:00; Slack time 12:00 Luna Lounge, 171 Ludlow Street * PH 212-260-2323 * http://www.lunasearecords.com/ Irreversible Slacks * http://www.irreversibleslacks.com/ BOSTON, MA: Saturday, June 16 at the Lizard Lounge with the Irresponsibles & Jed Parish (of the Gravel Pit). Bomba time 11:00; Irresponsible time 10:00; Jed time 9:00 The Lizard Lounge 1667 Mass. Ave, Cambridge 617 547 0759 (under the Cambridge Common) Irresponibles: http://www.murple.com/irresponsibles/ Jed Parish and his extreme voice: http://jedediahparish.home.mindspring.com/ CD INFO: The new disc is called "Somewhere In This Town," & you can find a few new MP3's at our site www.bomba.com (or Amazon.com, Boston.com) or just buy the damn thing at Tower Records, Other Music, Newbury Comics & other fine retailers. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: (exotica) name that movie! Date: 08 Jun 2001 08:30:55 +0800 hi all, does anyone know what the name of this movie is? i only caught a part of it but then had to leave the house and have no idea what it was. the music reminded me a little of bernard herrmann(sp?). the film was black and white and was about this young woman in a wheel chair who's mother and best friend have recently died so she moves back in with her father and her stepmother who she has never met. when she arrives her father is not there, and there are conflicting stories about him having been sick. that night she notices a light on in a room near the pool, so she wheels out there and the room is filled with all these preserved/stuffed animals and right in there staring back at her is her father - completely stuffed/preserved! she freaks out and tries to return to her room but ends up wheeling herself into the pool. she is rescued, but then i had to leave. anyone know what this might be? and who did the music? william in taipei. ps. have you guys seen this? scary. http://www.eugenemirman.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Date: 07 Jun 2001 20:56:42 -0400 I guess it's a little silly to chime in with a late "me too" post, but oh well... Me too! Don't forget "Hawaii" (2-disc version)! That's the only one I have. For some reason, I felt like it was the only High Llamas album I needed, and it sounds like maybe I was right. Very nice, anyway, especially from this list's perspective. Actually, moreso than the Beach Boys or Beatles, I heard echos of post-Abbey Road, 70s British art pop like 10CC or Supertramp. Which was pretty disconcerting for me (having revolted against that sort of thing in the late 70s). But I guess that provided the "challenging your tastes" fun factor that's part of this little game. Though I still refuse to reconsider Supertramp. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 07 Jun 2001 21:17:40 -0400 Some more useful beginner comps (I have no idea of current availability): Of course, there's Ultra Lounge Volume 1: "Mondo Exotica" on Capitol. Ultra-Lounge went on and on with volume after volume built around increasingly tenuous themes (I'm floitin' wit' controvoisy here, ain't I? (imagine that line delivered by Bugs Bunny... I spent a lot of time with Cartoon Network's weekend-long Bugs marathon last weekend and haven't quite recovered)), but this one is a well-focused "gateway drug" to classic exotica. Less heralded, but equally worthwhile is "Music For A Bachelor's Den, Volume 2: Exotica" from DCC. Includes fine tracks by less-hyped artists, such as Frank Hunter, South Sea Serenaders, Sunny Lester, Irv Cottler. The other "Bachelor's Den" volumes are good too. Rhino's "Cocktail Mix" series has good stuff. Volume 1, "Bachelor's Guide To The Galaxy" is loaded with primal Space Age Pop (compiled by former list member Irwin Chusid). And as mentioned, RCA's "History Of Space Age Pop" discs are loaded with, er, Space Age Pop. Single artist comps... Capitol's 2-disc sets devoted to Les Baxter and Martin Denny. The Esquivel comps on Bar-None and RCA. A couple of Yma Sumac comps floating around out there from some label or other (as well as album reissues of these various artists). "Incredibly Strange Music" Vols. 1 & 2. Based on the books that set a lot of this off. Not so focused on exotica, but they'll give you a lot of tangents to shoot off on. The "Jungle Exotica" discs on Strip document the raunchier side of things. Scamp's "Sound Gallery" and "Music For TV Dinners" volumes are dynamite intros to "library music." The "Easy Tempo" series on Right Tempo will ease you into the Italian film soundtrack scene. Drifting further from classic exotica, Arf Arf's "Only In America" remains a genius comp of oddball records. For the "soft pop" we tend to go on about, the "Sunshine Days" series on Varese Sarabande is an easily available source. I don't even know how many there are now. Me out of gas. For even more ideas go to Johan's mighty Disquarium: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/disq/disq.htm And don't forget to check our handy FAQ page: http://home.earthlink.net/~mambofrenzy/ Or the list archives: http://www.xmission.com/pub/lists/exotica/archive/ --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 07 Jun 2001 21:37:55 EDT m.ace covers most of the better compilation choices. I also very much like the Crime Jazz compilations on Rhino, the Kinky Beats collection, the Blow Up collections, and Espresso Espresso. Individual collections of Mancini, Esquivel, Martin Denny, Les Baxter are also de rigeuer. --David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) cheap lps chicago Date: 07 Jun 2001 18:45:27 -0700 AZ, Well, there are a lot of lps here, and a lot of them can be had cheap -- save for places like Dusty Groove -- but you can score some good cheap lps all over the place, it's just a matter of taking the time to hunt them down and being willing to get your hands really dirty. What we call the "south side" has a lot of thrifts that can yield some great things. I'm actually constantly surprised at the vinyl I come across. There used to be a great record store on the "south side" near Midway airport called Frank's. He was this really cool guy who knew everything about records. He would challenge you to put on a record from the store without showing it to him, and then he would try to guess the artist and date of its release, and he almost always got it right. He would spend his free time thrifting records and his house became so full his wife was like, Me or the records. So he opened a store. And, he would sell records for unbelieveably cheap, and was incredibly picky about condition, so you could get even more incredible deals. Plus he was really into soundtracks and jazz and strange things. I built a huge foundation of my soundtrack collection just through him. I found out at some point that some of the local used record stores would go buy records at his store and then sell them for way marked up prices in their stores -- you know, like when exotica became very trendy, these stores were buying up everything Frank had and selling them to the hipsters for a lot. The sad news is that he decided that since he wasn't making enough of a profit, he decided to switch to record fairs only -- well I mean sad for those of us who knew about his store. Mr. Unlucky Oh, and why ISN'T Casino Royale and James Bond film anyway? whoever posted that it was somehow special that people in this group think it is, when it is? Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 07 Jun 2001 21:56:37 -0400 And while we're on the subject of Karminsky compilations (Espresso Espresso), "Inflight Entertainment" and "Further Inflight Entertainment" are also excellent compilations. And then there are the 4 Motor "Get Easy" comps. And while not a compilation of artists, Esquivel's "Space Age Bachelor Pad Music" and "Music From A Sparkling Planet" on Bar/None are must-haves. And the Crippled Dick "Beat At Cinecitta" (all 3 of them) are worthy additions to any music library. Oh, and the list goes on and on and on...once you get hooked, that's it... cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) more Chicago record stores Date: 07 Jun 2001 19:04:40 -0700 The Jazz Record Mart is the place downtown that sells pretty much only jazz. Their CD selection is great, their LP selection is so-so and sometimes the prices seem not exactly in line with condition. They also have 78s though, which is pretty cool if you ask me. They also do mailorder too. I think the site is . I also agree about Hi-Fi. One of the owners is in a group called Cattivo, who do a variety of things from bossa to pop, with back-up singers, and sometimes pretend to be from Italy. He tells me the basement is full up of old classical records -- you have to ask and they'll maybe let you go rummage around. They're also good about soundtracks and soul, but it's a heavily trafficked area, so they move an awful lot of vinyl. I'm still mad about the pile of Saba records they picked up and kept for themselves! Another record store here with a notorious rep is called Beverly. There used to be two of them, but now there's just one. They not only deal in vinyl but costumes too! The now-closed store used to have weird costumes and wigs and things scattered amongst racks of old dusty vinyl. It was very peculiar but always a really great treat to go there. The other store is in a part of town called Beverly. But they're really strange about pricing. They do this thing where they set like this baseline of prices, and then round them out as they go up, like $10, $15, $20, like that. Also they seem pretty, uh, I'd say, inconsiterate about condition. Another problem is that they do this thing where they'll have covers to certain records separate from the vinyl itself, but then they'll lose the vinyl in the stacks. I've had some bad times there, finding great albums but then they wouldn't be able to find the vinyl. Still, considering their silly pricing system, I have found an awful lot of amaz ing records there, especially when looking for some really hard to find items. They do a lot of mail order as well -- I think you call them up with a list and they spend a few hours looking around for the things you want. Mr. Unlucky Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tipsydave@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Date: 07 Jun 2001 22:38:48 EDT I really like a lot of the High Llamas' songs, too, but some of them are a little too twee or supertrampish for me. They're pretty amazing live, though, and Sean O'Hagen's a real nice, friendly guy. And I'm not surprised Mike Love is still as much of a weenie as ever. -dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra Date: 07 Jun 2001 20:10:40 -0700 At 11:24 AM 6/7/01, JB wrote: >the voice of Liberace furnished by yours truly ( "and now, we return to the >classsicssss" ), the cha cha of Liberace furnished by Byron in Oregon I >believe (right Byron?) Yes, I was glad to contribute what I could. Thanks for sharing the info about how that cut came together. You did an excellent job...I could have sworn that was actually him! Byron ___...--''''***^^^^^^""""""^^^^^***''''---___ "Life is short. Stay happy." ||| ||| ---May 2001 aol.com tv advert ||| |||bag AT hubris DOT net Portland, OR, USA||| """^^^'''***----...__________...----'''^^^""" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: (exotica) Combustible Edison Comp? Date: 07 Jun 2001 21:48:31 -0700 I'm embarrased to say I'm in the same boat - haven't yet kicked in for Combustible Edison album either. Are there any plans to release a "greatest hits" or somesuch comp for those of us interested in getting started? -Kevin Moritz R wrote: > Also I (uhumm!) got a copy of Combustible Edison's "The Impossible World" CD today and for the first time in my life I listened to it! I can't believe how this could happen, it's so unlikely. I mean, I listen to this kind of music half of my life, I'm in the same mailing list with one of the band members and the cover designer of the CD is a friend of mine... and still it could happen that this album didn't get in my way until this very day. -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Compilations Date: 08 Jun 2001 00:27:46 -0700 exotica-digest wrote: >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:15:18 -0400 >From: alan zweig >Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer > >As someone who avoided the compilations, I have to say that I didn't "hate" >them. They just didn't do it for me. And it's not some inherent response >to the idea of a compilation. It's about context. Or if you will, >"decontextualization". >You could say that I didn't like the music enough - on its own - to be able >to appreciate it divorced from the original context in which it was >released. I needed the object - the pictures, the album cover, the liner >notes, the warm crackle of slightly used vinyl. You could say I needed to >touch the past. The music wasn't enough for me. Don't blame it on the music! It isn't the music's fault. The problem is that the people who cobbled a lot of those collections together pulled *just* the aggressively goofy cuts with very little of the real atmospheric swing music that lies at the heart of the exotica and percussion styles. The Capitol collections are the biggest disappointments, because the Capitol library has so much good stuff in it. And most of the Capitol albums were carefully programmed with a variety of moods to take the listener on "a musical journey to exotic lands". There was always a progression from languid to mysterious to exciting to strange on those records. Never the same sound twice... You would never know that from the relentless ping pong, outright second rate performances and coney island hoochicoo razmatazz crap that they picked for the Capitol compilations. The only one of those I find myself listening to any more is the organs one, and even that has a few cuts that make me reach to click over them. Even the two CD Les Baxter collections suffers from poor pacing. A Les Baxter LP is like watching a movie... that CD is like a monitor of a security camera in comparison. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Date: 08 Jun 2001 10:59:56 +0200 alan zweig schrieb: > > I'm still trying to figure out what happened to make Mo zoom in out of > nowhere with a review of the High Llama "oeuvre". That's really easy to explain: I borrowed a couple of CDs from a friend for my insatiable home burning factory and I happened to pick all the Llama records he had. Of course it was stupid to assume that the first Lamas album I knew should be the first they ever made. Looks like there's more behind that man O'Hagan than I thought. Thanks to everybody for the info! Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 08 Jun 2001 11:00:35 +0200 Colleen Pyles schrieb: > Some of us love comps, some of us hate them. and some of us like anything with good music on. If you want to get some essential music quickly you can't walk to thrift shops and yard sales for years to find all the original albums, especially since we all bought them away anyway a long time ago. I guess by this time we have given Randy too many tips for compilations; I think the idea of asking was to reduce the number of choices, not to get a full report of anything that's availbale in record stores these days. Maybe it's easier to sort out what he should not buy, like Stephen did. I recommend, if possible, to give a listen to the CD before you buy it, and not just to the first two tracks; some comps start really nice and the rest of the CD is a lot of boring elevator music. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Combustible Edison Comp? Date: 08 Jun 2001 10:07:57 +0200 Kevin Crossman schrieb: > I'm embarrased to say I'm in the same boat - haven't yet kicked in for > Combustible Edison album either. Are there any plans to release a > "greatest hits" or somesuch comp for those of us interested in getting started? Why not get the original album? It's really worth it. Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Giugliaro, Bacalov and Johan's site Date: 08 Jun 2001 10:53:35 +0100 Got a couple of back issues of Giugliaro magazine today, one of them had an EP of Luis Bacalov stuff in it. Interesting, a mix of stuff from quite dissonant jazzy to what someone at my house called an 'Italian Elvis Impersonator'. So I thought I'd find out more, naturally enough I checked Johan's site: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/disq/disq.htm Where he posts up reviews from himself and the Exotica list. And then I started to wonder, is this where some of the missing posts are going? A year ago I would have said, I've got this EP with a magazine, what do you know about Luis Bacalov, whats his stuff like, any recommendations? But I didn't. As it turned out Johan's site has only one LP and a few tracks on compilations. So. I've got this EP with a magazine, what do you know about Luis Bacalov, whats his stuff like, any recommendations? I haven't had a chance to read the magazines yet, but it looks like more Easy style fun. Nice pictures of the UFO TV show. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The Stare # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) Giugliaro, Bacalov and Johan's site Date: 08 Jun 2001 11:03:18 +0100 Luis Bacalov has made some extremely collectable and expensive Italian and French soundtracks. Osanna is the only LP I know of his that's not a soundtrack but I've never heard it so couldn't comment. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Date: 08 Jun 2001 12:51:30 +0200 alan zweig wrote: > Maybe tomorrow someone can give us an overview of the five records put out > by the Tindersticks. > > AZ My Tindersticks-fanatical-friend (don't know too much about them myself) judges on a scale of 1-5: Asphalt Ribbons (pre-Tindersticks) - Old Horse ** Tindersticks '1st album ' ***** Amsterdam 94 (live) *** Tindersticks '2nd album ' **** Bloomsbury Theatre (live) ***** with string section Curtains ***** the most sexy one Nenette et Boni OST **** loungy Twin Peaks like Donkeys ***1/2 good, but short comjpilation not enough rare stuff Simple Pleasures ** background vocals are misplaced Can Our Love... ***1/2 Re High Llamas: 'Cold And Bouncy' is my favourite album. It has lots of cool electronic bleeps that make it the least Supertramp sounding High Llamas album. Edward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Snake Dance info Date: 08 Jun 2001 07:56:32 -0400 Thanks for the information on this song! How rare it is for something used so often to be known by musical excerpts of the verse and not the chorus. Veil, veil, veil, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Combustible Edison Comp? Date: 08 Jun 2001 05:18:01 -0700 (PDT) There are only 3 cds (not counting 4 rooms, etc)I don't see how "I, Swinger" could be winnowed for hits - the whole thing is great. Impossible World is different, but also great all the way through. Immediate purchase recommended. --- Kevin Crossman wrote: > I'm embarrased to say I'm in the same boat - haven't > yet kicked in for > Combustible Edison album either. Are there any plans > to release a > "greatest hits" or somesuch comp for those of us > interested in getting started? ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 08 Jun 2001 09:36:51 -0400 Thanks alot! This is very helpful... On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 21:17:40 -0400 "m.ace" writes: > > Some more useful beginner comps (I have no idea of current > availability): > > Of course, there's Ultra Lounge Volume 1: "Mondo Exotica" on > Capitol. Ultra-Lounge went on and on with volume after volume built > around increasingly tenuous themes (I'm floitin' wit' controvoisy > here, ain't I? (imagine that line delivered by Bugs Bunny... I spent > a lot of time with Cartoon Network's weekend-long Bugs marathon last > weekend and haven't quite recovered)), but this one is a > well-focused "gateway drug" to classic exotica. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra Date: 08 Jun 2001 10:26:37 EDT In a message dated Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:14:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bag@hubris.net writes: << At 11:24 AM 6/7/01, JB wrote: >the voice of Liberace furnished by yours truly ( "and now, we return to the >classsicssss" ), the cha cha of Liberace furnished by Byron in Oregon I >believe (right Byron?) Yes, I was glad to contribute what I could. Thanks for sharing the info about how that cut came together. You did an excellent job...I could have sworn that was actually him! clarification: I furnished the Liberace voice as a pre-recorded item. It was NOT, repeat NOT me!...also from Mo's post saying the Brother Cleve Lush Orchestra was on the cover of House Industries....that is the actual House Industries crew, it is not a band. And Cleve's CD does not cost $125.00 American. The Vegas Font Program complete with Clip Art costs that much. And you get the CD as a bonus along with the Font Program...JB/couldn't possible mimic Liberace...or....could I? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mimi Mayer Subject: Re: (exotica) Combustible Edison Comp? Date: 08 Jun 2001 09:57:30 -0500 At 10:07 AM 6/8/01 +0200, Mo wrote: >Why not get the original album? It's really worth it. Agreed. Plus Impossible World one of the best recent concept lps I can think of. Worth seeking out in vinyl too if you can find it. Oh that rich sound! Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 08 Jun 2001 12:59:43 -0400 At 11:00 AM 6/8/01 +0200, Moritz R wrote: > >some comps start really nice and the rest of the CD is a lot of boring elevator music. "boring elevator music"???? Hello? You use such terms on this list? AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: (exotica) Tiki talk Date: 08 Jun 2001 13:12:21 -0400 Exotica seems to have various themes associated with it (space age themes, perfectly understandable given the time) but one thing that intrigues me about it is its fascination with Tiki culture. I was wondering if anyone had ideas as to why this theme took hold so strongly during this period of time. My guesses are the maturing of the middle class in postwar America (those career climbers of the late 40s were reaching the salaries where they could afford to travel to tropical locales, or at least reasonably dream of doing so), the events leading up to the statehood of Hawaii -- maybe exotica helped it become a state ;-) ...or maybe it's just the way certain things just spontaneously take hold in popular American culture. Any thoughts as to why Tiki culture became all the rage? Randy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Walton" Subject: (exotica) The Bugaloos Date: 08 Jun 2001 13:48:59 -0400
Hello...
 
Has anyone heard the recent Bugaloos compilation CD reissue on the Vivid label?
 
I was wondering how the remastering / sound quality is.
 
DustyGroove has it in stock this week if anyone's interested.
 
Thanks!

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Theoretically yours, Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jenna Subject: (exotica) Re: Tiki talk Date: 08 Jun 2001 14:20:35 -0400 I always thought it was because of all the WWII servicemen coming home from the Pacific, some of them bringing stuff home (clothes, wives...) and others just saying "Hey, the USA needs a bar like this!" The musical "South Pacific" certainly comes to mind. I'm sure postwar luxury and the newfound ease of air travel had a lot to do with it too. jk > > Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 13:12:21 -0400 > From: "R. Schultz" > Subject: (exotica) Tiki talk > > Exotica seems to have various themes associated with it (space age > themes, perfectly understandable given the time) but one thing that > intrigues me about it is its fascination with Tiki culture. I was > wondering if anyone had ideas as to why this theme took hold so strongly > during this period of time. My guesses are the maturing of the middle > class in postwar America (those career climbers of the late 40s were > reaching the salaries where they could afford to travel to tropical > locales, or at least reasonably dream of doing so), the events leading up > to the statehood of Hawaii -- maybe exotica helped it become a state ;-) > ...or maybe it's just the way certain things just spontaneously take hold > in popular American culture. Any thoughts as to why Tiki culture became > all the rage? > > Randy > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jschwart@voicenet.com Subject: (exotica) High Llamas Date: 08 Jun 2001 14:22:08 I'm always surprised to see the High Llamas (or the Beach Boys, for that matter) mentioned in Exotica circles, but at any rate, here's a bio I wrote about them for the 1995 release of their GIDEON GAYE album... HIGH LLAMAS BIO (10/16/95) GIDEON GAYE, the new Epic (and epic) album from England's High Llamas, invites instant association with the music of Brian Wilson, from the opening swirl of strings to the moody, melodic instrumental that closes it. While sixties rock has inspired later artists in many different ways, the High Llamas' latest album most of all recalls a time when the catchiest and most commercial songs were created by people unafraid of also being the most experimental. Whether including an entire BACKWARDS song ("Taog Skool No") or letting one of the hookiest pieces ("Track Goes By") continue blithely and assuredly for over 14 minutes, High Llamas leader Sean O'Hagan wears not only his PET SOUNDS and SMILE bootlegs on his sleeve, but also the influence of such kindred obsessive-compulsive originals as Todd Rundgren, Van Dyke Parks and The Millennium's Curt Boettcher. O'Hagan's musical tapestry deftly mixes piano, Vox organ, Moog, glockenspiel, vibes and harpsichord with the traditional guitars and drums, while his multi-tracked vocals recall the perfect emotive strain and cryptic imagery of Steely Dan's Donald Fagen. Sean O'Hagan first drew notice in the mid-eighties Irish band Microdisney, working with fiery singer/lyricist Cathal Coughlin. After six acclaimed albums (including the memorably-named WE HATE YOU SOUTH AFRICAN BASTARDS), the two parted ways in 1987, Coughlin eventually forming the Fatima Mansions. Sean reemerged in 1990 with a solo album on Elvis Costello's Demon label, entitled, oddly enough, HIGH LLAMAS. Settling in the London borough of Camberwell, he recruited a band under that name, and the first product released by the High Llamas was the 1992 mini-LP APRICOTS (a full-length version of this record emerged in France as SANTA BARBARA). Critics were quick to take notice of O'Hagan's blossoming songwriting. At this point Sean met up with fellow Camberwell band Stereolab, who needed a keyboardist for a U.S. and U.K. tour. This led to Sean appearing on three Stereolab albums, playing keyboards and arranging brass and strings. He also worked with Stereolab's Tim and Laetitia on British TV jingles and themes. The High Llamas continued to play and record, and eventually completed their masterpiece GIDEON GAYE, recorded for less than 4000 pounds. Originally released in 1994 on the UK indie label Target, the album drew immediate raves. Q magazine observed that, "lovers of the Beach Boys, the Beatles, Steely Dan and the heyday of American AM pop will find much to go weak over here." N.M.E. noted, "It's all here: gorgeous, sweeping string sections to die for; massive saccharine harmonies soaring into the clouds; layer upon layer of impenetrable lyrical whimsy...WHOOSH! You're suckered, gently." GIDEON GAYE made the ten-best lists of MOJO magazine, and, presumably, spright popsters the Boo Radleys, who promptly asked Sean O'Hagan to remix their next two singles (denoted as the "High Llamas mix"). In June 1995, Sean re-released GIDEON GAYE on his own Alpaca Park label in the U.K. Around the same time the album had a brief release on the U.S. indie label Delmore Records. In July, the High Llamas played a high profile 13-date tour of England with Mercury Rev. On October 2 they began a tour of Europe with the Connells. A U.S. tour is planned for early 96. The High Llamas are: Sean O'Hagan (vocals, guitars, keyboards), Jonathan Fell (bass), Marcus Holdaway (keyboards), Rob Allum (drums), and John Bennett (guitar). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Tiki talk Date: 08 Jun 2001 11:39:08 -0700 (PDT) ... And from there, Thor Heyerdahl (Kon Tiki), James Michener (Hawaii), Trader Vic (Mai Tai) ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) the last real primitives... Date: 08 Jun 2001 21:05:22 +0200 truly exotic: http://www.mulatta.org/Thaielephantorch.html Just released - a CD of elephants in the Thai jungle playing specially designed musical instruments. The elephants improvise the music themselves. The Thai Elephant orchestra was co-founded by Richard Lair of the Thai Elephant Conservation Center in Lampang and performer/composer Dave Soldier. Most of the profits will go to the Conservation Center. The CD includes a twelve page color booklet that details the project see the video: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/MP/010129litke_video_mp/video_window_low.html and finally see them painting: http://www.elephantart.com/ Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "james brouwer" Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 08 Jun 2001 19:04:46 -0000 hello randy more 2 cents worth here: less in the 50's exotica vein and more in the stylish sounds of the jet-set circa 1966-1974 I highly recommend both volumes of THE SOUND GALLERY on Scamp records, and the SHAKE SAUVAGE compilation on Crippled Dick of groovy French soundtrack music from the late 60's and early 70's. For hip Italian library and film music of the 60's there's EASY TEMPO VOLUME 3: THE PSYCHO BEAT, which is superb. For Incredibly Strange music the ONLY IN AMERICA comp. is a fantastic place to begin. I think some others on the list mentioned some of the above too, so I'm really just seconding the motion. And again, these might not be 'exotica' proper but most people who like exotica (like myself) also enjoy the above too. hope this helps jb _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas/Tindersticks Date: 09 Jun 2001 03:09:54 +0800 High Llamas >1992 Santa Barbara >1994 Gideon Gaye >1996 Hawaii >1998 Cold & Bouncy >1999 Snowbug >2000 Buzzle Bee And incidentally, before 'Santa Barbara', there was also the fun, but less polished 'Apricots', a mini-album. >Maybe tomorrow someone can give us an overview of the five records put out >by the Tindersticks. Alan, I'm sure you were joking, but after disliking them at first, I now rather like Tindersticks, so I hope everyone will forgive me...: The group are sometimes very heavily influenced by Lee Hazlewood, to the extent that they lift small phrases from songs (e.g. 'a marriage made in heaven', available on the US version of 'Curtains' lifts the opening to 'Sand'). 1) 'Tindersticks' first album (1992) - I find this a little aimless, but with some great, slightly country-ish pop songs hidden in there - 'city sickness', 'marbles', 'her' and the cool, twangy 'Paco de renaldo's dream'. 2) 'Tindersticks' Second album (1994), I'm very keen on - dark, emotional, spooky pop. 'My sister' is a standout track. 3) 'Nenette et boni' soundtrack (1996) - many people's favorite Tindersticks album, just because it features less vocals, and more atmospheric instrumentals. Duplicates some material from the second album. 4) 'Curtains' (1997) - This took time to grow on me, but I like it - dramatic instrumental pop. The prominent violin sound can be rather jarring, and not much of this could be described as 'easy listening'. It's good though. 5) 'Simple Pleasure' (1999) - at only 10 tracks, probably their shortest effort, but really very enjoyable. It has a very clean production, and is much less murky sounding than 'Curtains'. It's also more soul-influenced, with prominent use of backing singers. jonny http://www.psychedelicado.com -- tell us about your favorite songs! http://musicaltaste.net _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.lycosmail.com Powered by Outblaze # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki talk Date: 08 Jun 2001 21:17:07 +0200 If you want to know more, check out the eminent Tiki book "The Book of Tiki" by the #1 Tiki capacity Prof. Dr. Sven A. Kirsten, who got his own tiki mug recently, sculpted after his portrait. Find links here: http://tikiland.de Mo -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 08 Jun 2001 21:33:06 +0200 alan zweig schrieb: > "boring elevator music"???? Hello? > You use such terms on this list? yes, what about it? Mo -- studio R we say it - we mean it http://moritzR.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) the last real primitives... Date: 08 Jun 2001 15:49:31 -0400 I have this and highly recommend it. The next release will be an "Easy Listening" CD by the TEO - they'll make some effort, probably through editing and careful instrument/performer matching, to create more atmospheric/ambient pieces. Last year was the North American Frogs - this year is the Thai Elephant Orchestra - what's for next year? Another fun project that involved David Soldier was the CD he made with Komar & Melamid called The People's Choice Music. The music was designed based on survey research and has 2 tunes: The Most Wanted Song (a musical work that will be unavoidably and uncontrollably “liked” by 72 ± 12% of listeners) and The Most Unwanted Song (fewer than 200 individuals of the world’s total population will enjoy this) http://www.diacenter.org/km/ lousmith@pipeline.com Moritz R wrote: > truly exotic: http://www.mulatta.org/Thaielephantorch.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas/Tindersticks Date: 08 Jun 2001 15:53:48 -0400 At 03:09 AM 6/9/01 +0800, Jonny Perl wrote: > >>Maybe tomorrow someone can give us an overview of the five records put out >>by the Tindersticks. > >Alan, I'm sure you were joking, but after disliking them at first, I now rather like Tindersticks, so I hope everyone will forgive me...: Well I was kidding. Sort of. But I do believe there are some contemporary "pop" acts who have some connection with the kind of music discussed here. And not just because we somehow incorporated "soft pop" into our discussions. And the Tindersticks are one band that I feel are "relevant" to "our music". One gets the feeling reading this list that a lot of people here listen to nothing but "this kind of stuff". But I don't think that's true. I remember a couple of years ago, I recommended the Lambchop record "Nixon" on this list and I got a couple of notes from members who bought it and appreciated it. I wasn't surprised to hear someone talking about The High Llamas. I'm sure they've come up before. I was surprised to see Moritz talking about them. I for one would like it if people here felt free to recommend contemporary stuff. As long as it was vaguely relevant. For instance, something like... "If you like the music discussed here and you also have a taste for something contemporary, you might like"....... The reissued Shuggy Otis record "Inspiration Information". Tortoise Pernice Brothers Dirty Three Or not. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 08 Jun 2001 16:06:12 -0400 At 09:33 PM 6/8/01 +0200, Moritz R wrote: > > > >alan zweig schrieb: > >> "boring elevator music"???? Hello? >> You use such terms on this list? > >yes, what about it? What about it? I like boring elevator music, that's what. I think a lot of the music we discuss here qualifies as boring elevator music, that's what. I think a lot of people here collect boring elevator music, that's what. I think most "straight" people who aren't on this list would call some of the music that you like "boring elevator music", that's what. I don't think "boring" and "elevator music" should be used in the same phrase. I don't think elevator music is boring. I'm listening to elevator music right now. It elevates me. That's what. Using such terms does the opposite of elevating you. That's what. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Chances are they don't write liner notes like this any more Date: 08 Jun 2001 13:04:47 -0700 (PDT) "The fickle lass, Jazz, is a volatile wench of multicolored hues. She can be broadly bluesy or subtly cool... . Though her demands may be finicky at times, 'La Jazz' imposes one basic prerequisite on those who would court her: the music on which she swings MUST be high caliber." from Chances are It Swings, Shorty Rogers This is a great disk, btw - players include Barney Kessel and Red Norvo. Wish I could have found a vinyl copy. ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 09 Jun 2001 08:36:10 +1000 on 9/6/01 6:06 AM, alan zweig at azed@pathcom.com wrote: > I'm listening to elevator music right now. > It elevates me. Alan I'm going to use this beautiful little comeback myself. If that's OK. Thanks Philip # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 08 Jun 2001 18:39:27 EDT I think a lot of people here collect boring elevator music, that's what. I think most "straight" people who aren't on this list would call some of the music that you like "boring elevator music", that's what. Actually I thought we were interested in collecting not-so-boring elevator music, but I could be wrong... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bump@defectiverecords.com (Bump Stadelman) Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Date: 08 Jun 2001 18:40:22 -0400 to defend the use of that phrase, i have been in some elevators with some real boring music pouring out of them. an elevator ride is a pseudo-exciting thing if you think about the mechanics of it all. its fast, convenient, and modern. therefore, don't cha think elevator music should be alittle more, well, uplifting?!?! there is good elevator music out there, some at my place, tons at alan's joint, but i am damn sure there is such a thing as ... boring elevator music. thats what. bump >>alan zweig schrieb: >> >>> "boring elevator music"???? Hello? >>> You use such terms on this list? >> >>yes, what about it? > >What about it? I like boring elevator music, that's what. >I think a lot of the music we discuss here qualifies as boring elevator >music, that's what. >I think a lot of people here collect boring elevator music, that's what. >I think most "straight" people who aren't on this list would call some of >the music that you like "boring elevator music", that's what. >I don't think "boring" and "elevator music" should be used in the same phrase. >I don't think elevator music is boring. >I'm listening to elevator music right now. >It elevates me. >That's what. > >Using such terms does the opposite of elevating you. >That's what. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas/Tindersticks Date: 08 Jun 2001 20:38:25 EDT In a message dated 6/8/2001 3:10:43 PM, delicado@cheerful.com writes: << 2) 'Tindersticks' Second album (1994), I'm very keen on - dark, emotional, spooky pop. >> One of my favorite records. One reviewer called them a "cross between Leonard Cohen and Engelbert Humberdink" and he was close. Bob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Dom the Scalper Date: 08 Jun 2001 20:20:22 -0500 Guess this is only peripherally exotica, but I just happened to stumble across the following and thought it was kinda curious, to say the least. Seems Dominic Frontiere, composer of "Pagan Festival", "Love Eyes", numerous movie scores and occasional topic on this list, did jail time in the '80s for scalping Super Bowl tickets (provided by his then-wife, Georgia, owner of the L.A. Rams). Found the story at: http://www.latimes.com/sports/reports/superbowl/lat_spin000128.htm No disrespect intended to Mr. F., who apparently lives in New Mexico these days. Now back to your regularly scheduled Exotica list. Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retrolisten.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Dom the Scalper Date: 08 Jun 2001 21:35:40 EDT In a message dated 6/8/1 8:26:34 PM, dbrogdon@falcon.cc.ukans.edu wrote: >Seems Dominic Frontiere, composer of "Pagan Festival", "Love Eyes", >numerous movie scores and occasional topic on this list, did jail >time in the '80s for scalping Super Bowl tickets Another myth smashed...JB/no one is innocent # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jim gerwitz" Subject: (exotica) Wladziu Date: 08 Jun 2001 18:52:07 -0700 DJ Jimmy wrote: "JB/couldn't possible mimic Liberace...or....could I?" All you'd need is a red white and blue sequined hot pants outfit and a matching Rolls Royce in the driveway. Use them for DJ gigs and you got a tax writeoff. Oh, you already have the Rolls? Hmmmmm, no wonder it wasn't in the Liberace Museum during my last Vegas pilgrimage.......... the other Jb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: Re: (exotica) Dom the Scalper Date: 08 Jun 2001 22:27:10 -0500 > Darrell, > For a minute when I saw the subject. I wondered: "What did I do now??" Sorry, Dom. Didn't mean to startle ya. > If I get some decent phone equipment maybe I should do an interview with > Mr Fontiere. "Pagan Festival" is a fav of La Jane. Mine, too, plus the jazz accordion things he did for Liberty in the '50s. I'd love to know what he's been up to (besides making license plates). According to the L.A. Times story, he lives in Tesuque, N.M., and he recently got an unlisted number. Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retrolisten.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Wages Subject: Re: (exotica) Tindersticks Date: 09 Jun 2001 00:20:04 -0500 > From: "Jonny Perl" > Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 03:09:54 +0800 > To: exotica@xmission.com > Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas/Tindersticks > The group are sometimes very heavily influenced by Lee Hazlewood, to the > extent that they lift small phrases from songs (e.g. 'a marriage made in > heaven', available on the US version of 'Curtains' lifts the opening to > 'Sand'). They even covered a Hazlewood song ("Girl On Death Row") early on though I don't own the official release of it. Also, if I recall, the sleeves of one of their earliest singles was dedicated to Hazlewood and John Barry. I know for sure that Barry was pictured on an early 'Sticks single... > 5) 'Simple Pleasure' (1999) - at only 10 tracks, probably their shortest effort, [...] The new one - "Can Our Love" - has only eight. A couple of the new songs have that epic quality that I kind of missed on "Simple Pleasures." I'm even tempted to say "Sweet Release" is one of the best songs they've ever recorded. Anyone interested should check out an abbreviated mp3 of "People Keep Comin' Around" at the official site of their label: http://www.beggars.com/artists/current/tindersticks/video_audio.htm I really like it. Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica)the other sidewalk Date: 09 Jun 2001 00:54:20 EDT In a message dated 6/8/1 8:50:47 PM, JB @home.com wrote: >All you'd need is a red white and blue sequined hot pants outfit and a >matching Rolls Royce in the driveway. got it all except the driveway------------actually all i really have IS the driveway and I'm considering widening it for a two car family...JB.wondering how many out there have space age homes designed for only one car in the driveway? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: (exotica) boring elevator music Date: 08 Jun 2001 22:45:51 -0700 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of alan zweig > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 1:06 PM > I don't think "boring" and "elevator music" should be used in the > same phrase. I was thinking about this. Wouldn't those folks of the "beautiful instrumentals" ilk count as "boring elevator music?" I was thinking primarily about Richard Clayderman, who (for me at least) defines elevator music. (I kind of like the fact that Nancy Reagan apparently called him "The Prince of Romance.") Indeed, when I was growing up in the Philippines, I could hear Clayderman everywhere -- in restaurants, office reception areas, sweepstakes commercials, those little interludes when the world weather would scroll up the screen during a TV news show, department stores, radio soap operas, TV soap operas, you name it. And elevators, too. Clayderman's arrangements were spectacularly bland and predictable too. These almost-canned drumbeats would always enter during the first repetition of the opening motif; indeed, everything was slowed down or speeded up to the exact same tempo for most of his pieces (including "For Elise" and "Ode to Joy"). I suppose there was something oddly fascinating about the utter blandness of Clayderman's music (I'm only familiar with his late '70s output, though), but it's just not interesting enough. Okay, it's just not interesting *at all* -- and therefore "boring elevator music." Later, Ben http://members.tripod.com/~tamad2/ ICQ: 12832406 np: brotzmann / haino / hano, "shadows" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) boring elevator music Date: 09 Jun 2001 02:41:39 -0400 At 10:45 PM 6/8/01 -0700, Benito Vergara wrote: > >I was thinking about this. Wouldn't those folks of the "beautiful >instrumentals" ilk count as "boring elevator music?" > >I was thinking primarily about Richard Clayderman, who (for me at least) >defines elevator music. Don't get me wrong. I think that there is such a thing as instrumental music that is very very boring. And though I call the stuff I like "easy listening", there certainly is easy listening music which is also boring. And yes, the boring kind of easy listening instrumental music is the kind that is often discussed, in my opinion, on the Beautiful Instrumental mailing list. But I was challenging Moritz on using the term "elevator music" And I challenged him because I am certain that much of my favorite music would be classified that way by the vast majority of music listeners. To me this list is partly about a group of people who have found value in what others have called "elevator music". So while I am the last one to challenge anyone who feels like putting down a whole genre of music, I just think we should come up with our own terms and not use the terms which have been used to denigrate OUR taste in the past. But yes Ben (you ingrate!), there is such a thing as beautiful yet boring instrumentals. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) the last real primitives... Date: 09 Jun 2001 09:34:52 +0200 Great CD, great concept. The whole CD was downloadable a couple of weeks ago. Sorry, I can't find the URL just now. The last track seems out of place, since it's an 'avant-garde' electronic piece. Somehow I can't picture those elephants tweeking synthesizer knobs. Moritz R wrote: > truly exotic: > http://www.mulatta.org/Thaielephantorch.html > > Just released - a CD of elephants in the Thai jungle playing specially designed musical instruments. The elephants improvise the music themselves. The Thai Elephant orchestra was co-founded by Richard Lair of the Thai Elephant Conservation Center in Lampang and performer/composer Dave Soldier. Most of the profits will go to the Conservation Center. The CD includes a twelve page color booklet that details the project # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) the last real primitives... Date: 09 Jun 2001 12:24:08 +0200 I found the URL, but I think it's not up anymore. Just in case, here it is: http://www.bestweb.net/~mlj/thai_elephant_orch.htm I wrote: > Great CD, great concept. The whole CD was downloadable a couple of weeks ago. Sorry, I can't > find the URL just now. The last track seems out of place, since it's an 'avant-garde' electronic piece. > Somehow I can't picture those elephants tweeking synthesizer knobs. > > Moritz R wrote: > > > truly exotic: > > http://www.mulatta.org/Thaielephantorch.html > > > > Just released - a CD of elephants in the Thai jungle playing specially designed musical instruments. The elephants improvise the music themselves. The Thai Elephant orchestra was co-founded by Richard Lair of the Thai Elephant Conservation Center in Lampang and performer/composer Dave Soldier. Most of the profits will go to the Conservation Center. The CD includes a twelve page color booklet that details the project # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ashleywarren1@aol.com Subject: (exotica) "Que Mango" and "Astrosounds" - A word of warning Date: 09 Jun 2001 10:10:38 EDT Anyone who hasn't picked up the Les Baxter "Que Mango" or 101 strings "Astrosounds" CDs on Scamp yet and who has considereed it should run to pick them up asap. The licensing period has just expired on these two titles and it is doubtful anyone will be reissuing them in the very near future. This is not a shameless attempt to get last minute sales as the distributor has no more to ship to stores -- what is out in shops is all that there is ever going to be. In a week or so, as is the industry proceedure, deletion notices will be sent to shops requesting that return any stocks they do not wish to keep in their inventory to be sent back for destruction (in keeping with the requirements of the licensing contract). Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ashleywarren1@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Tindersticks Date: 09 Jun 2001 10:13:31 EDT I've always thought the lead singer of the Tindersticks sounded like he sang with half a sandwich still in his mouth, but hey, that's me! Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki talk Date: 09 Jun 2001 10:34:37 -0400 >Hi, folks: I'm just back from Brazil, and just rejoined this list -- fell back into things without missing a beat, it seems. I'll report on the Brazil trip later, but I just wanted to say that I saw a sign, last night, advertising a "Vente de Garage -- 15,000 articles de Bali," somewhere in the south of the city today. 15,000 articles -- that's not too many. Will Will Straw, Associate Professor and Acting Chair, Department of Art History and Communications Studies McGill University 853 Sherbrooke Street W. Montreal, QC H3A 2T6 Canada Phone: (514) 398 7667 Fax: (514) 398 7247 Co-Investigator, Culture of Cities Project, http://www.yorku.ca/culture_of_cities/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Something So Simple...Lalo Schifrin Date: 09 Jun 2001 13:51:58 EDT I went to an "estate sale" today. There were two boxes of records. One labeled $5 the other labeled $1. In the $5 box were albums like Bruce Springsteen's "Born in the USA", and other such rock albums, nothing out of the ordinary. In the $1 box I found two Lalo Schifrin, mint. I'm really glad that some people don't know what they have. One of the Schifrin albums looks like it may be from the 50s. It's titled "Spectrum" and the line up contains titles that everyone has heard of. But when Schifrin is at the helm, there's something wonderful. A tune so simple as "Red Sails in the Sunset" takes on new vistas when in the hands of Schifrin. It's a great album. The other album, which I haven't played yet is "Piano Strings and Bossa Nova". I had to have it. Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: (exotica) umbrella records Date: 10 Jun 2001 02:31:07 +0800 hi all, does anyone know anything about a label out of taipei, taiwan called "umbrella records"? jack diamond is selling some stuff on this label, does anyone have anything on this label? i rarely see stuff like this here(i mean released on a local label) so i'm really curious if anyone has any contact info or info on the label in general i'd like to hear about it. its probably some sort of bootleg label but i'm real curious. one of the things he is selling looks familiar so i may of seen it. i guess i can email jack and ask, but it seems sort of weird to ask that so i thought i'd ask here first. william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Shorty Rogers Date: 09 Jun 2001 12:06:11 -0700 exotica-digest wrote: >from Chances are It Swings, Shorty Rogers > >This is a great disk, btw - players include Barney >Kessel and Red Norvo. Wish I could have found a vinyl copy. I've grabbed all of the Spanish reissues of Shorty Rogers' RCA albums. They are all great. The only one that I was disappointed in was the Martians Go Home CD. The Count Basie tribute and the Swingin' Nutcracker are phenominal. If you like Shorty, also look into the Spanish CD reissues of Pete Jolly. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Something So Simple...Lalo Schifrin Date: 09 Jun 2001 16:07:29 -0400 At 01:51 PM 6/9/01 EDT, Stilgloria@aol.com wrote: >The other >album, which I haven't played yet is "Piano Strings and Bossa Nova". I had to >have it. that's a good record. There's one tune on there that starts off the same as the Mission Impossible theme. I guess he was stealing from himself. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Shorty Rogers Date: 09 Jun 2001 16:39:08 -0400 At 12:06 PM 6/9/01 -0700, bigshot wrote: > >exotica-digest wrote: > >>from Chances are It Swings, Shorty Rogers >> >>This is a great disk, btw - players include Barney >>Kessel and Red Norvo. Wish I could have found a vinyl copy. I have a vinyl copy but mostly I like it for the nice big picture of that girl and her sashaying derriere. If you weren't an ass-man, that gal could change your mind. (My apologies to the female members of the list but I bet you like those George Shearing "lesbian chic" covers yourself.) Shorty Rogers was obviously a great arranger and whatever else he did. But I particularly love the things he did which sound more crime jazzy. There are a lot of gems hidden here and there among his records. I don't know if I've ever found one that consistently had that sound. He did one of those Stereo Workshop records. There were a few cuts on that. If you can find the "Bossa Nova" record he did on Reprise. It's not really bossa nova; all the records in that series are like "personal visions of bossa nova". (I've recommended the Barney Kessel one before. It's amazing.) Somewhere on one of my groovy soundtrack compilations, I have a groovy Shorty Rogers cut from, I think, "Fools". And then there's the stuff he did with Perez Prado. And the similar record he made himself. "Afro Cuban Influences". That's not my favorite stuff but it's interesting. I'm always inspecting his jazz-looking records but I want crime jazz, not jazz jazz! Anyone recommend a more thoroughly crime jazzy record for Shorty? AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Something So Simple...Lalo Schifrin Date: 09 Jun 2001 16:59:53 EDT In a message dated 6/9/1 12:52:53 PM, Stilgloria@aol.com wrote: >The other >album, which I haven't played yet is "Piano Strings and Bossa Nova" that is a great shifrin LP...do u have it in stereo? JB/monoman in that realm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) today's finds Date: 09 Jun 2001 17:17:14 EDT Normally I don't post my purchases, but I found some very interesting things today: Gary McFarland & Gabor Szabo, "Simpataco" on Impulse (mint, stereo)...some vocals, some instros...1966. Great cover of the two of them on Yamaha Jet 100 and Yamaha Big Bear motorcycles in NYC trying to figure out where they are Gerald Wilson Big Band, "Moment Of Truth" on Pacific Jazz, contains the original version of "Viva Tirado", an old favorite of mine by El Chicano, which Los Chicharrons recently piled on top of Sylvia's "Pillow Talk" (mono) The Surfmen, "Exotic Island" on Somerset (mono). Prototypical exotica, great cover Quincy Jones "Big Band Bossa Nova" (been looking for this for awhile, its stereo mint) Oscar Peterson & Nelson Riddle "The Trio & The Orchestra With Strings" on Verve. Couldn't resist this combination of talents. (mono) Brass Ring "Gazpacho" on Dunhill. Should be called Brass Ring goes Latin..Always like the now sound boyz (stereo) Rimshots "Soul Train" A reissue someone didn't like so I picked it up mint and used. The Sound of Englewood, NJ circa 1972. Reissued by Sequel from A-1 Records which I think was a subsidiary of the label the Moments recorded on. (stereo) Jimmy Smith "Monster" on Verve, arranged and conducted by Oliver Nelson. Has TV themes and a couplea bluesy styled standards. (stereo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Road trip-Route 66 Date: 09 Jun 2001 17:22:49 -0500 Remember Ben..."It's not the heat, it's the humidity," Arizona is very dry. ---- Begin Original Message ---- Sent: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 05:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Yes. Every time I begin to lose patience with the 90 degree snakebreeding jungle heat out my way, I check the weather in Phoenix and think of my pals there in their asbestos togas in the steady 115 degree blaze (they say with all the asphalt there it doesn't get all that cool at night anymore). Stopped there on the way to Las Vegas last summer. I could smell my hair curling as I stepped off the plane. Strangely beautiful state, though. --- Colleen Pyles wrote: > I was raised in Arizona and saw a lot of Rt. 66 in > the southwest, > have not seen the northern part. =A0I'm anxious to see > that, although > the south west part is sooo unique. =A0"Last stop for > gas/water 300 > miles"..... =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0- Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! =A0http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ---- End Original Message ---- Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Something So Simple...Lalo Schifrin Date: 09 Jun 2001 18:34:47 EDT In a message dated 6/9/01 1:59:53 PM, DJJimmyBee writes: << that is a great shifrin LP...do u have it in stereo? JB/monoman in that realm >> Yes, it's a stereo copy. Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Something So Simple...Lalo Schifrin Date: 09 Jun 2001 18:35:45 EDT In a message dated 6/9/01 2:00:27 PM, DJJimmyBee@aol.com writes: << that is a great shifrin LP...do u have it in stereo? JB/monoman in that realm >> BTW, the liner notes are great!! Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: Re: (exotica) Shorty Rogers Date: 09 Jun 2001 17:30:20 -0500 >Anyone recommend a more thoroughly crime jazzy record for Shorty? Although he didn't write the music (Leith Stevens did that), Shorty Rogers DID do the arrangements for and played on the soundtrack for "The Wild One". On the original soundtrack, he's billed as Roger Short (for contractual reasons). Shorty later recorded the film score again, this time with his own band. If you can't find the soundtrack, there's an LP reissue from Fresh Sound in Spain, plus Shorty's own recording of the "Wild One" music is on an RCA CD and LP called "Short Stops". Great crime jazz! Back in the 80s I produced a series of jazz concert broadcasts from a local club, and we managed to get some real heavyweights in to appear on the show. On one memorable evening, we had Shorty Rogers and Bud Shank together! This was around the time Shorty had begun to cut back on his TV work and had started to record and perform in clubs again. I remember being introduced to this living legend, and I found him to be an incredibly warm, modest guy. He was so tickled by the enthusiasm with which his return to playing had received from the public. Sadly, he was gone just a few short years after that broadcast. I still have the tape of that concert around the office somewhere. I should try to dig it up. Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retrolisten.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) today's finds Date: 09 Jun 2001 19:42:30 -0400 At 05:17 PM 6/9/01 EDT, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > >Normally I don't post my purchases, but I found some very interesting things >today: Why don't you post your purchases normally? Are you afraid of making us jealous? If someone doesn't step forward and post their purchases, then all we have left are guys sniping from the sidelines. >Gary McFarland & Gabor Szabo, "Simpataco" on Impulse (mint, stereo)...some >vocals, some instros...1966. Great cover of the two of them on Yamaha Jet 100 > and Yamaha Big Bear motorcycles in NYC I love this cover. I love Gary McFarland. I love Gabor Szabo. And I even love very inappropriate singing. Sometimes. But I really don't know what these two were thinking when they decided to sing together all through this record. I guess it must be Gabor's fault more than Gary since Gary often does a nice job of soft vocalizing on his own records. I'm not getting rid of my copy but I have to be in a really perverse mood to play it. >Gerald Wilson Big Band, "Moment Of Truth" on Pacific Jazz, contains the >original version of "Viva Tirado", I kept buying his records and finding them not good enough and getting rid of them. Then recently I bought his "greatest hits" and that's a hot record. Some guys you really just want their greatest hits, even if it's someone who never really had "hits" per se. >The Surfmen, "Exotic Island" on Somerset (mono). Prototypical exotica, great >cover I think it's better than prototypical exotica. First of all, true exotica is the one thing I have the most trouble finding. Outside of the two or three big names. So even prototypical exotica is a nice thing. But on top of it, this record has the most hilarious over-the-top "ooh ooh aah aah" bird calls I've ever heard on a record. It sounds like either someone's being strangled or a very loud bird is very very constipated. I think people underestimate this record. If this is the kind of record you find, please post more often. In my humble opinion, it's this kind of thing our creaking old list needs the most. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, June 10 Date: 09 Jun 2001 22:49:13 -0400 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #146 It's Another Br. Cleve Mix! Yet another compilation put together by Brother Cleve - it's outstanding, as usual! This one's more of a laid-back, chill out groove. Just listen, relax and enjoy. Thanks, Cleve! Calle Ocho: Jazzanova Jimpster: Haribo Starmix Ben We: Tuvan Tube Top Ursula 1000: Savoir Faire (Thievery Corp. Mix) Dzihan & Kamien: (A)fter (Atjazz Remix) Sonic Monks / Our Man In Odessa: Xedjo (Permafrost Jazz Mix) Nine Yards Orchestra: Coco Vaive Boozoo Bajou: Under My Sensi (Trio Electro Tip Kick Mix) Freedom Satellite: Soul Samba Cosmopolite: Concepcion Thanks for reading, and thanks for listening cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Irwin Chusid/Raymond Scott Archives Subject: (exotica) Raymond Scott Orchestrette @ BCM 6/15 Date: 10 Jun 2001 17:14:35 -0400 RAYMOND SCOTT ORCHESTRETTE at Brooklyn Children's Museum, June 15 The Raymond Scott Orchestrette will perform at the Brooklyn Children's Museum on Friday June 15, from 6:30 to 7:30, as part of Arts at St. Ann's "World's In Tune" series. Admission is FREE, and the performance takes place on the roof of the BCM. In addition to well-known works from Scott's legendary Quintette period, the 7-piece Orchestrette performs acoustic arrangements of Scott's electronic works. The RSO consists of Brian Dewan (electric zither, piano, accordion, koto, vocals, arrangements); Michael Hashim (saxes); Will Holshouser (accordion, arrangements); Deidre Rodman (piano); George Rush (bass and tuba); Rob Thomas (violin); and Clem Waldmann (drums). David Garland will guest reprise his for-children-of-all-ages performance of Scott's "And the Cow Jumped Over the Moon." The Brooklyn Children's Museum: http://www.bchildmus.org/ Visit the RSO info page: http://RaymondScott.com/orchette.html includes two audio files # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: (exotica) Tiki Party in a 21 Century SABP Date: 10 Jun 2001 23:27:23 -0400 Today on WJUL I had a chance to host "Dave's True Story" live in the studio. There is a free download of their version of "Fever" on the web page www.davestruestory.com that some of you will really like. I did. While there, Tim, our sound engineer, asked me where he can find some Les Baxter. His room mate is having a Tiki party in a few weeks. On the 23rd. So naturally I said don't worry about the music! Invite me and I'll bring the music! I was at his place for a station picnic a few months ago and saw his pal's fledgling tiki mug collection and he's been expanding on it. No doubt so we have something to drink out of at the party. And he bought a giant tiki. JB,This guy sounds like a kindred spirit. Also noticed stereo equipment to kill for, and most of the Bond movies already on DVD and Casino Royal on tape. I wonder why he had Casino Royal. Is that really a Bond movie? These are pretty young guys too. The space age bachelor pad of the 21th century! So. I got plenty of Exotica. But I do remember someone posting a killer exotica comp they made a while ago. Save me the trouble and send it over? I'll pass over a home made comp in return. BTW, In a few minutes I'll be going to my sister in laws bridal shower. I put together a nice mellow comp as background music for while we are eating. (Mancini, The Mill from Bedazzled, even some Blow up stuff) But they wont let me near the cdplayers!) But like our bold Jimmy I will bust a move. ;') Domenic Ciccone "Martinis with Mancini" WJUL 91.5FM Friday's 6-9AM EST http://www.geocities.com/martinimancini/ http://wjul.cs.uml.edu/listen.html (On Real Audio) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) James Bond and the Casino Date: 11 Jun 2001 10:53:00 +0100 Mr. Unlucky asked: Oh, and why ISN'T Casino Royale and James Bond film anyway? whoever posted that it was somehow special that people in this group think it is, when it is? Well, Casino Royale is a James Bond Film and its not. Its not part of the major cannon. If you asked a load of people to list actors who had played James Bond, a few would eventually remember George(?) Lazenby, but only the truly smartarsed would say David Niven. Its not an Albert Broccolli production. Doesn't use the well known James Bond musical themes. Whoever it was wrote them. (this is a sarky reference to the recent court case rather than a question). Its more of a comedy than the other JB films. Its more American. It may be in the US its perceived as a James Bond film, but over here, its usually shown in isolation, never as part of a James Bond season. Perhaps Cubby B had cast iron contracts with all the TV companies here to keep it away from his franchise. I like it, don't think I don't, and its a great OST, too. But to me, its one I things I like about the list is that we would call it a James Bond film, when Nobody else I know would. I think its because its such a great OST and we know it because of that, its higher in our consciousness than for most people. Or something like that. But then it is mentioned in the song 'Sock It to Em JB'. But I think thats more about the books. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The Stare # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCckert?= Subject: (exotica) The Untamed Sounds of 'Outside Music' - By JOE HAGAN Date: 11 Jun 2001 11:55:45 +0200 LAST month, I heard David Bowie's 1969 glam-rock classic "Space Oddity" as if for the first time. I'd heard the song on the radio before, of course; however, coming as it did, not from Mr. Bowie but from a choir of elementary school kids in a remote farm community in northern Canada, this was something new. Orchestrated in the late 1970's by a hippie music teacher named Hans Fenger, the scratchy recording sounded like a document of a clandestine event, as if Mr. Bowie's song had been co-opted for a cult ceremony. The instrumentation included electric guitar and the gamelan-like chimes invented for children by the composer Carl Orff. The lyric of the song's wayward astronaut, "For here/ Am I sitting in my tin can/ Far above the moon," never=20 resonated so genuinely. Indeed, the album from which the song comes,=20 "Innocence and Despair" (Basta Audio-Visuals=20 3091102), by the Langley Schools Music Project,=20 exists outside just about everyone's cultural=20 radar. Mysterious and haunting in its hermetic vision, the album, which will be released in the=20 fall, also includes renditions of Wings' "Band=20 on the Run" and the Eagles' "Desperado" (the=20 latter sung by a 9-year-old girl). It is a discovery recently classified as "outsider music"=20 by Irwin Chusid, the music archivist and disc=20 jockey on WFMU in Jersey City. Look for the full story at http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/10/arts/10HAGA.html *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***=20 *** Ton R=FCckert Mozartstraat 12 5914RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto 31/0 773545386 *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.psychedelicado.com ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Luis Baclav a reprise - Who is Rocky Roberts? Date: 11 Jun 2001 13:27:10 +0100 Still not had a chance to read those Giugliaro magazines, but listened to the EP's a few times. The track by Luis Baclav that my friend said sounded like an Italian Elvis Impersonator was actually sung by Rocky Roberts. Its a great track, rips along like Tom Jones in early 70's RnB mode. His voice reminds me of early 60's uptempo British Rock'n'Roll/RnB. I've been trying to work out who, maybe the Pretty Things. Great stuff I couldn't find out much about him, most of the sites seem to be in Italian, German or Spanish. And with the translations being what they are, but he seems to be American, an RnB singer that moved to Europe. Is there anything else this groovy by him? El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The Stare # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Shorty Rogers Date: 11 Jun 2001 05:38:25 -0700 (PDT) You might also want to check out the ST to Man with the Golden Arm (a jazz musician's struggle with heroin and daily existence in the underworld halflight). I think Elmer Bernestein is credited with the score - but Shorty Rogers and His Giants do several fine tracks on this record. --- Darrell Brogdon wrote: > > >Anyone recommend a more thoroughly crime jazzy > record for Shorty? > ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Irwin's response to the NYTimes article Date: 11 Jun 2001 10:03:47 -0400 Irwin posted this to the Outsider Music list: Author Joe Hagan did an admirable job in explaining outsider music and placing it in a contemporary cultural context. His writing is strongest when he explains the music's appeal, and with a few dodgy exceptions (below), his facts are generally accurate. I, for one, am grateful for the exposure accorded to several of my projects, and consider the article worthwhile for publicizing the phenomenon of outsider music. However, in the interests of clarifying the public record, I submit the following comments to the List. (In some cases, it is possible the inaccuracies or omissions are attributable to editors who altered the author's original text.) 1) The article begins by discussing the Langley Schools Music Project CD, 'Innocence and Despair,' but doesn't mention that I had anything to do with it. In fact, I conceived the project, and convinced Basta to undertake the first commercial release of these obscure mid-70s recordings; contacted the Langley school administrators, and tracked down music supervisor Hans Fenger (who left the district in 1979) and several of his former students; formulated the licensing agreements; researched the history chronicled in the liner notes; named the album; sequenced the tracks; obtained photos; designed the front and back covers, and triggered an ongoing battle of wills with the American Orff-Schulwerk Association (who have rejected any connection with this release). Yet when my name is finally brought up in the third paragraph, it's merely to "classify" these kids as "outsiders." It's as if the NYT writer, after hearing this album, called an "expert," who listened over the phone, stroked his chin, and certified its authenticity ("Yes, the Langley children conclusively meet all the criteria for 'outsider' by the academy's standards."). Whether I actually referred to the Langley recordings as "outsider" to the reporter misses the point. I'm not releasing these recordings because these kids are "outsider"; I'm releasing them because they are works of stunning, enduring beauty. And as articulated on the CD's back cover, the Langley recordings transcend ANY category (though I have jokingly referred to them as "campfire rock"). 2) The Shaggs' 'Philosophy of the World' LP/CD cover is pictured in the print edition. Caption underneath, in its clueless entirety: "The cover of a garage-band album." 3) Jack Mudurian is referred to as a "72-year-old who was recorded at his retirement home singing 129 Broadway standards." Mudurian was in his mid- to late-50s when these standards -- many of which had no connection to Broadway -- were recorded in the Duplex Nursing Home, which was not a "retirement home." 4) The rights to the Shaggs' life story were acquired by Artisan Entertainment, not "Artisan Studios." 5) The Key of Z CD does not "accompany" the book; they were packaged and sold separately by two unrelated companies. The company who published the book, A Cappella, is not identified; the company who released the CD, Which? Records, is identified, despite the fact that they went out of business four months ago. 6) Peter Grudzien does not "yodel" about gays in the military. He sings. Yodeling is a technique which is not part of Grudzien's repertoire. 7) Daniel Johnston's performance at Tonic last month is described as having been "received with silent awe by a typically aloof downtown crowd." I attended, and the crowd was anything but "silent"; Daniel was wildly cheered. 8) "Alternative" and "indie" rock, with their "willfully amateur aesthetic and cheap recording techniques," are referred to as phenomena which arose after the "mid-80s." These labels and styles came to prominence in the late 1970s, with the D.I.Y. movement. They were meaningless marketing cliches by the late '80s. 9) The web site version is headlined "The Untamed Sounds of 'Outside Music'." The common term is "outsider," not "outside." Sorry for the "gotcha" tone of several points above. The NYT considers itself the "paper of record," and at no point was I contacted by a fact-checker to confirm anything in the story. While some of the above corrections are minor, I was particularly distressed by the omissions chronicled in #1 above, which made me seem like some professorial dork who sits around and dispenses ex cathedra assessments on what's "outsider" and what's not. Additional notes: B.J. Snowden called me on Sunday, terribly disappointed that her picture did not run. The NYT photo editor had requested a pic from her, and she submitted one. Surely not the author's omission. The photos of Daniel Johnston and Jack Mudurian which accompany the story were deemed unacceptable by the NYT photo editor when first submitted (by Ron English and David Greenberger, respectively). The Johnston photo was derided because it made Daniel look "fat," and the Mudurian photo was considered inadequate because Jack's face is partly obscured by a Dunkin Donuts coffee cup. Needless to say, both photos perfectly capture their subjects, and add immeasurably to the page's impact. The Langley CD cover was also requested and submitted, but did not run. If anyone wants to view it, please contact me off-list and I will email a 108K jpg. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Shiman" Subject: (exotica) 2 Dial-ated Pupils, the playlists Date: 11 Jun 2001 17:31:58 Yet again I've overcome both my congenital laziness as well as the twinge of embarrassment I feel with such self-aggrandizing gestures, to bring you my 2 previous playlists. Some of the more interesting selections are as follows (recent bargain bin/thrift store acquisitions all): 1) Percy faith -- Superfly -- Clair -- LP -- Columbia. This is at least the second (next to "Evil Ways") selection I've heard by P.F. has surprised me by being "heavy"/psychedelic. No strings, even. 2) Cannonball adderley/Nat Adderley Sextet/Rick Holmes (narration) -- Sagittarius -- Soul Zodiac -- LP -- Capitol. For me, this beats out "The Zodiac Cosmic Sounds" as the "heaviest" astrology record extant. 3) Gabor Szabo -- Galatea's Guitar -- Dreams -- LP -- Skye. I think Alan mentioned Gabor, and that he liked him. I do too, especially his "deeper", electric guitar work, with that psychedelic Eastern vibe. I guess such a unique sound prevented him from much work as a sideman/session guitarist. A majestic production on the big-production Skye label. 4) Alex North -- Cut 5, Cue D, Act 1, Scene 3 (incidental music from) "The Innocents" -- LP -- Major Production Music. This is the first production library LP that I've found in a thrift store. Vibraphones, gongs, and eerie electronic drones (ring modulators?). I'm finally beginning to understand how production library music was used, I think. 5) Hal Vincent -- Heavy Spaceman -- Hal Vincent -- LP -- AD-Rhythm. I believe this was compiled on one of those "Ursala 3000" comps. Spacey, mildly funky baldwin organ workout ala Dick Hyman. God bless the early 70's. PLAYLIST FOR JUNE 9, 2001 ARTIST -- SONG -- ALBUM -- FORMAT -- LABEL walter wanderley -- a mesma rosa amarela -- Walter Wanderley's Brazilian Organ -- LP -- Capitol luis bonfa -- amazonas -- Bonfa -- LP -- Dot banda de pau e corda -- ciranda de roda com rosa -- Redencao -- LP -- RCA elis regina -- o mestre sala dos mares -- Elis -- LP -- Philips sergio mendes -- lost in paradise -- Stillness -- LP -- A&M joao donato -- lunar tune -- A Bad Donato -- LP -- Blue Thumb airto -- tombo in 7/4 -- Fingers -- LP -- CTI laso -- puerto rico me llama -- Laso -- LP -- MCA sophy -- la ultima palabra -- Me Estoy Volviendo Tuya -- LP -- Velvet ltG exchange -- corazon -- 7" -- Fania salsoul orchestra -- you're just the right size -- Salsoul -- LP -- Salsoul sylvia robinson -- not on the outside -- Pillow Talk -- LP -- Vibration shirley and company -- shame shame shame -- Shame Shame Shame -- LP -- Vibration maryann farra & satin soul -- never gonna leave you -- Never Gonna Leave You -- LP -- Brunswick roberta flack -- go up moses -- Quiet Fire -- LP -- Atlantic percy faith -- superfly -- Clair -- LP -- Columbia herbie mann -- pick up the pieces -- Discotheque -- LP -- Atlantic kool and The gang -- wild and peaceful -- Wild and Peaceful -- LP -- De-Lite cannonball adderley/Nat Adderley Sextet/Rick Holmes -- sagittarius -- Soul Zodiac -- LP -- Capitol shelly manne -- mask -- Mannekind -- LP -- Mainstream gabor szabo -- galatea's guitar -- Dreams -- LP -- Skye PLAYLIST FOR JUNE 2, 2001 ARTIST -- SONG -- ALBUM -- FORMAT -- LABEL The Afro Blues Quintet -- Afro Rock -- New Directions of the Afro Blues Quintet Plus One -- LP -- Mira Cal Tjader -- Soul Sauce (Guacha Guaro) -- Soul Sauce -- LP -- Verve Frank Ferrer Jr. and His Orchestra -- Mundi Baja -- The Wonderful Latin-American Sound of Puerto Rico -- LP -- RCA The Lat-Teens -- Smoke Shop -- Buena Gente -- LP -- Cotique Eddie Palmieri -- Revolt/La Libertad Logico -- 7" -- Tico Fania All-Stars -- Descarga Fania -- Live at the Cheetah (Vol. 1) -- LP -- Fania Eddie Cano and His Sextet -- Short Run -- Deep In a Drum -- LP -- RCA Webley Edwards -- Alika -- Exotic Instrumentals, Vol. 4 -- LP -- Capitol Paulo Alencar and His Orchestra -- Come Back My Love (Ninguem Na Rua) -- 7" -- Alpine Living Jazz -- Moon Mist -- Quiet Nights -- LP -- RCA Alex North -- Cut 5, Cue D, Act 1, Scene 3 (incidental music from) "The Innocents" -- LP -- Major Production Music Vincent Bell -- Airport, Love Theme -- Airport -- LP -- Musicor Hal Vincent -- Heavy Spaceman -- Hal Vincent -- LP -- AD-Rhythm Dick Hyman -- Fantomfingers -- Fantomfingers -- LP -- Project 3 Marty Manning and the Cheetahs -- Tarzan (Tarzan's March) -- 7" -- Columbia Claus Ogerman -- Right Now -- Watusi Trumpets -- LP -- RCA Helen Gamboa -- Shing-A-Ling Time -- 7" -- Jonal Duncan Lamont -- Costa Plenty -- Latin a Lamont -- LP -- Festival Enoch Light -- Bond Street -- Spaced Out -- LP -- Project 3 The Jason Ryder Sound -- Colored Spade -- Music from the Sensational Hair -- LP -- MFP Klaus Doldinger -- I Feel Free -- Doldinger Jubilee -- LP -- Atlantic Maynard Ferguson -- Wack Wack -- Ridin' High -- LP -- Enterprise Jazz Crusaders -- Ooga-Booga-Loo -- Lighthouse '68 -- LP -- Pacific Jazz The Fourth Way -- The Sun and Moon Have Come Together -- The Sun and Moon Have Come Together -- LP -- Harvest The Visitors -- Reflections (On New York City, Everything is Everything) -- Neptune -- LP -- Cobblestone thanks, Dan (Aries) Hear! "Dial-ated Pupils" -- every Saturday 4-6 pm CST exclusively at www.radio1austin.com. I will lead you safely through the perilous dark jungles of Austin's scratchiest record collection. Exotic jazz. Obscure Latin, Afro, and Eastern grooves. Easy listening arcana. Bring your bug spray. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Love Lounge Date: 11 Jun 2001 14:41:53 -0400 http://nytimes.com/2001/06/11/technology/11PIXA.html?pagewanted=1&0611inside From a NYTimes article about computer-animation studio Pixar's new headquarters: Perpendicular to the atrium and at opposite edges are two broad corridors. And running off these avenues are networks of office pods creating a labyrinth of high-tech spaces. The decorations mirror the sensibilities of those who work there. In the animators' wing, for instance, an eccentric kind of design competition seems to be under way. One cluster of offices has set up its own rock 'n' roll stage. A South Seas theme dominates another area, complete with tiki torches and bamboo hutches. Mr. Lasseter, Pixar's creative director, dressed in one of his trademark aloha shirts, was moving rapidly down one of the main corridors, heading from one meeting to another. ``Hey, have you seen the Love Lounge yet?'' he asked. ``Great. Let's go.'' He took a zigzag course toward the building's southern wing, passing under some ``Phantom of the Opera''- type chandeliers, around a pool table and through a grove of tree trunks used as snack tables. Finally, Mr. Lasseter pushed open the door of a corner office belonging to Andrew Gordon, an animator. It looked like any of the other dozens of offices in the complex: white walls, about 10 feet square, dominated by a desktop computer. ``Is anyone in the Love Lounge?'' Mr. Lasseter asked. Mr. Gordon stood up from behind his desk, reached for a 1940's vintage smoking jacket hanging from a hook on the wall and slipped it on. Then he bent over and unlocked a small, white door half hidden near the floorboards along one edge of his office. To get through the door, you need to crawl on hands and knees before emerging into a strangely festooned crawl space about the size of a restaurant booth. The walls and the low, irregular ceiling were stainless steel, probably because the crawl space had been put in to provide access to an air- conditioning unit. Benches covered with tasseled pillows have been installed along two of the walls, with a fold-up cocktail table in between. Every nook and cranny around the walls is filled with glassware, liquor bottles or bric-a-brac. A string of multicolored lights hangs overhead. ``Welcome to the Love Lounge,'' Mr. Lasseter said. ``The specialty of the house is Pimm's Cup.'' Sure enough, Mr. Gordon appeared with two icy glasses brimming with a rosy liquid and placed them atop official Love Lounge cocktail napkins. (There are also Love Lounge matchbooks and T-shirts.) A video monitor provides a view of the corridor to see if anyone is approaching. Distinguished visitors are invited to write their names on the wall with an indelible marker. Among the names are Michael Eisner, Roy Disney and Randy Newman. The space was discovered shortly after the headquarters was first occupied, and it didn't take long for Mr. Gordon and others to begin decorating it and for its legend to grow. Quietly, at first, and then with gradually rising force, the sound of a prewar swing orchestra began to purr out of small speakers. A woman crooned about love and moonlight. Mr. Lasseter swirled the ice cubes in his Pimm's Cup, which chattered noisily in the enclosed space. Mr. Gordon poked his head in again. Another drink? Mr. Lasseter smiled and shrugged slightly, as if to say, well, why not? ``It's a pretty good place to come to work,'' he said. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCckert?= Subject: Re: (exotica) Irwin's response to the NYTimes article Date: 11 Jun 2001 19:20:23 +0200 >Irwin posted this to the Outsider Music list: >However, in the interests of clarifying the public record, I submit the >following comments to the List. (In some cases, it is possible the >inaccuracies or omissions are attributable to editors who altered the >author's original text.) Well, thanks Lou (and Irwin) for clearing that up, it was about slightly more than minor corrections, I think... Cheers, Ton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Chaino "Jungle Echoes" Date: 11 Jun 2001 16:08:33 -0400 Chaino and his African Percussion Safari "Jungle Echoes" (Omega Records) Another "known" record that's been well covered previously (see Issue #17 of Cool & Strange Music Magazine, for one), but hey, I lucked into my own copy, so I get my own 2 cents on it. Some of these old records we find aren't really as exciting as we might like them to be, so we perhaps rationalize them or alter our expectations in order to increase our enjoyment. Or concentrate on the favorite cuts and ignore the stinkers. Or go all ironic until the irony negates itself out of existence. But this is not one of those records. This is a wonderful, quirky, unique powerhouse of a record. All percussion, all the time, with some scattered vocalizing over top. As it started off, I thought, "Oh yeah, it IS pure percussion." After a couple of minutes, I began thinking, "Errm, this could get a little boring." But after a couple of cuts, I tuned in to Chaino's groove, and... it was a groove the rest of the way. It's not a simple pound-pound-pound affair... there is subtlety, there is nuance. He has a unique groove and phrasing to what he does. At the same time, there is an air of primitivism to the affair. This is not a smoothy session, no, plenty of rough energy burning here. There are birdcalls, but hard, threatening birdcalls. And of course, there is the legendary "Jungle Chase" (I sure hope those folks got away from those mean ol' lions). In an odd way, I can imagine this record coming from the early 80s -- that terrific little period of anything-goes, DIY, post-punk eclecticism. It has the sort of energy th at was floating around at that time. So, yeah, you could say I like this record. How do Chaino's other records compare? Anyone know of similar records by other artists? I'll note: Art Blakey - "Orgy In Rhythm" Vols. 1 and 2 (Blue Note). Drums, drums, drums. A 1957 session led by Art Blakey with three more jazz drummers; Sabu heading the Latin percussion section; piano, bass and Herbie Mann on flute. Done off the cuff, but nicely structured. Disciplined, but loose. Lots of horsepower driven with intelligence. Blue Note reissued it a few years ago as a 2-on-1 CD. Tipped to it by absent list-pioneer, Tony Wilds. And thanks again for that. Excellence. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ton =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCckert?= Subject: Re: (exotica) Shorty Rogers Date: 11 Jun 2001 19:18:05 +0200 >You might also want to check out the ST to Man with >the Golden Arm (a jazz musician's struggle with heroin >and daily existence in the underworld halflight). I >think Elmer Bernestein is credited with the score - >but Shorty Rogers and His Giants do several fine >tracks on this record. I recently picked up a couple of them (CD's), anyone for a trade? Cheers, Ton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Chaino "Jungle Echoes" Date: 11 Jun 2001 13:42:59 -0700 (PDT) --- "m.ace" wrote: ...And of course, there is the legendary > "Jungle Chase" (I sure hope those folks got away > from those mean ol' lions). It sounds more like "Jungle Love", to me - but that could be no more than what's attached to the ear of this listener. Great lp, in any case. > Anyone know of similar records by other artists? Check out Tito Puente's Tambo (my copy of this lp has Tito banging away with a semi-clad witchdoctor in a campy mask dancing): http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000005LIS/qid=992291922/sr=1-1/ref=sc_m_1/102-3478719-0456936 ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Hall Subject: (exotica) RE: Something So Simple...Lalo Schifrin Date: 11 Jun 2001 18:07:15 -0400 From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com In a message dated 6/9/1 12:52:53 PM, Stilgloria@aol.com wrote: >The other >album, which I haven't played yet is "Piano Strings and Bossa Nova" >that is a great shifrin LP...do u have it in stereo? JB/monoman in that realm Ahhh... still looking for that one. Is that the one with "Maria" &... "Wave" I think, both on that German "Mission Impossible and more" anthology? If so, the string writing impressed me, very angular & not so... lush & "beautiful." Gotta keep looking. ------------------------------ From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com >Jimmy Smith "Monster" on Verve, arranged and conducted by Oliver Nelson. Has TV themes and a couplea bluesy styled standards. (stereo) I like this one a lot; a great of the art vs. commerce collision, with Oliver Nelson attempting to wring "art" from such saleable goodies as the Bewitched & Munsters themes, reharmonizing in dense chunks... I love that stuff. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Something So Simple...Lalo Schifrin Date: 11 Jun 2001 18:14:26 EDT In a message dated 6/11/1 5:08:03 PM, GeorgeH@rounder.com wrote: >Jimmy Smith "Monster" on Verve, arranged and conducted by >Oliver Nelson. Has TV themes and a couplea bluesy styled standards. >(stereo) >I like this one a lot; a great of the art vs. commerce collision, with >Oliver Nelson attempting to wring "art" from such saleable goodies as the >Bewitched & Munsters themes, reharmonizing in dense chunks... I love that >stuff. That's the shit # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Today's Arrivals Date: 11 Jun 2001 18:25:43 EDT This came in today Walter Wanderly - "Brazilian Blend" Phillips Stereo. Real nice and i can't get enough of Walter at times, though I'm saturated. Peter Nero - "Disco, Dance & Love Themes of the 70's" Arista Stereo. Sometimes Nero can be a pleasant surprise. I'd always liked his take on "Soulful Strut", so I gambled on this baby and it paid off for me...Easy Disco..Try it, you'll LIKE it Nicola Conte - La Coda Del Diavolo (Karminsky Remix)/bw Mission A Bombay (Ursala1000 Remix) 12" on Schema. A-Side samples a live intro which is great and Nicola rarely disappoints exoticats because although modern, he is not into phat beatz or basss. I'm prejudiced about the B side because to me Ursala1000 can do no wrong.. I've had the pleasure of his company on a few occasions and its good for so many chuckles that it reflects on my response to his work which I think is outstanding... Balanco - Theme From Cocktail Nova (Nicola Conte Re-work)/bw Mrs. Beat (Remixed by Le Hammond Inferno). How can a song called "Theme From Cocktail Nova" be anything but great? Trust me when I say (Oh pretty baby, don't leave me down I say) But I digress..Its Faboo-u-lash. B-Side Mrs Beat by Le Hammond Inferno remixers. Initail reaction: Very Good, but I was inundated by such great stuff today that I really have to re-review it before anything more. Gerardo Frisina - Ad Lib, CD-Schema. If you like Bossa Nova, this is the next step in its modernization process. Frisina takes a giant step forward, but backs off the slammin' jam mentality of some bossa reworkings..Very modern sounding with a substantial nod to the roots of it all (By that I mean Thee1963 Bossa Nova Breakout) This is one Mo Fo of an effort, worthy of vintage anolog exoticats with a Latin bent Riviera Jazz - On Mo Smog Records (Italy). A Nu-Jazz compilation worthy of the name. Archie Shepp, Chet Baker, Gotan Project, Xavier Fisher Trio, Mansfield(!). All included (and more) on this dancey yet rare-groove influenced sample of Nu-Jazz directions.. JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Hall Subject: (exotica) RE: James Bond and the Casino Date: 11 Jun 2001 18:27:26 -0400 As I recall, Albert Broccoli bought the rights to all the James Bond books except "Casino Royale," which had already been sold & adapted into a US television play concerning an American agent named "James Bond." Following the success of the James Bond films, someone else bought the rights to Casino, & given all the liberties taken in the Broccolli productions, decided to take... a Whole Lot of liberties, ultimately ending up as a bizarre exercise in budgetary excess, with multiple directors, cameos, & a final (likely quite expensive) scene in which everything blows up. Kind of bad, also kind of great. (& that soundtrack!) ------------------------------ From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Well, Casino Royale is a James Bond Film and its not. Its not part of the major cannon. If you asked a load of people to list actors who had played James Bond, a few would eventually remember George(?) Lazenby, but only the truly smartarsed would say David Niven. Its not an Albert Broccolli production. Doesn't use the well known James Bond musical themes. Whoever it was wrote them. (this is a sarky reference to the recent court case rather than a question). Its more of a comedy than the other JB films. Its more American. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Shorty Rogers Date: 11 Jun 2001 19:00:26 EDT In a message dated 6/11/01 1:44:00 PM US Eastern Standard Time, Darrell Brogdon writes: << Although he didn't write the music (Leith Stevens did that), Shorty Rogers DID do the arrangements for and played on the soundtrack for "The Wild One". On the original soundtrack, he's billed as Roger Short (for contractual reasons). Shorty later recorded the film score again, this time with his own band. If you can't find the soundtrack, there's an LP reissue from Fresh Sound in Spain, plus Shorty's own recording of the "Wild One" music is on an RCA CD and LP called "Short Stops". Great crime jazz! >> Actually, www.intrada.com has a new CD reissue of The Wild One. Here is the info: LEITH STEVENS Jazz Themes From The Wild One Bear 16393 (Germany) $24.99 (44:36) Landmark 1953 Marlon Brando movie had several mono albums issued: 10" version with 8 tracks, 12" LP with 12 tracks, separate 7" version played by session trumpeter Shorty Rogers with 4 cuts. This impressive CD premier features every track plus artwork from all 3 original sleeves, 50-page booklet with clean sound. Stevens' jazz score is solid fifties big band music. The price is a bit high, but it's worth it. This is one of the quintessential crime jazz recordings! The 12-track version LP is scarce. There are some 8-track and 10-track albums that aren't quite as rare, but the CD has all 12 tracks -- a must. Great movie, too. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) re: Rocky Roberts Date: 12 Jun 2001 01:09:31 +0000 > From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk > Subject: (exotica) Luis Baclav a reprise - Who is Rocky Roberts? > > Still not had a chance to read those Giugliaro magazines, but listened to > the EP's a few times. The track by Luis Baclav that my friend said sounded > like an Italian Elvis Impersonator was actually sung by Rocky Roberts. Its > a great track, rips along like Tom Jones in early 70's RnB mode. His voice > reminds me of early 60's uptempo British Rock'n'Roll/RnB. I've been trying > to work out who, maybe the Pretty Things. Great stuff > > I couldn't find out much about him, most of the sites seem to be in Italian, > German or Spanish. And with the translations being what they are, but he > seems to be American, an RnB singer that moved to Europe. Is there anything > else this groovy by him? Anything Rocky recorded in the 6Ts is damn groovy, be it in english or italian language. He actually started his career in France, in the late 50's, with the Airedales, a band made of U.S black marines/soldiers who took the land by storm with their blend of genuine rock'n'roll. In the 60's he crossed the Alps and landed in Italy, where he stayed ever since. His 6Ts stuff is jamesbrownish stomping uptempo soul floorshakers, the kind that make you wanna sweat to the beat. Great guy, great music. Gotta love him. Ciao Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) The LP Show Date: 11 Jun 2001 19:26:57 -0400 If anyone gets to this show before I do, I'd love to hear a report! lousmith@pipeline.com 'THE LP SHOW' With installations by John Zorn, Thurston Moore, DJ Spooky, and Christian Marclay (whose piece involves 80 identical Tijuana Brass LPs), this show of more than 2500 weird and wonderful album covers is not just for vinyl junkies. Organizer Carlo McCormick focuses on the LP sleeve as a popular, often anonymous, and now all but extinct art form lovingly preserved by collectors, over 50 of whom are listed as contributing curators. Along with their accumulations of Hawaiian, Japanese, and Christian ventriloquist albums, there are surveys of work by graphic artists from the '30s to the present, including Frank Kozik, Art Chantry, and Foetus. OPENS SATURDAY, THROUGH AUGUST 17, Exit Art, 548 Broadway, at Prince Street, 966-7745. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Chaino "Jungle Echoes" Date: 11 Jun 2001 20:46:50 -0400 At 04:08 PM 6/11/01 -0400, m.ace wrote: > >Chaino and his African Percussion Safari .> >This is a wonderful, quirky, unique powerhouse of a record. All percussion, all the time, with some scattered vocalizing over top. As it started off, I thought, "Oh yeah, it IS pure percussion." After a couple of minutes, I began thinking, "Errm, this could get a little boring.". It's funny that you did that little intro about how the records we find are often better in the anticipation than in the actual hearing. You claim this isn't such a record. I think it qualifies myself. Another way to describe some of the records we're looking for is "I love the IDEA but I wonder if I'll enjoy the record". I like the fact that this is nothing but percussion. I like that people made records like that. But I've never heard one that actually sustained my interest past one play, if that far. Once upon a time I liked drum solos. Now not so much. Having said that, if I saw another Chaino - or Kaino - record, I'd probably pick it up. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chuck Collazzi Subject: (exotica) Any "lounge"-type musicians in the L.A. area on this list? Date: 11 Jun 2001 17:33:24 -0700 Please contact me off-list. Thanks. Chuck Collazzi Vinyl Plus Music Exchange 16250 Ventura Blvd., Suite 165 Encino, California 91436 USA (818) 995-3727 "Our Records Are Endangered Species Under The Federal Hipness Protection Act" ChuckLPs@pacbell.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Today's Arrivals Date: 11 Jun 2001 20:57:53 -0400 At 06:25 PM 6/11/01 EDT, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > >This came in today > >Walter Wanderly - "Brazilian Blend" Phillips Stereo. Real nice and i can't >get enough of Walter at times, though I'm saturated. I believe even you Jimmy can reach a point where you have enough Walter. Each record on its own is good but those ones with just bass and drums - even if it is the great Bobby Rosengarden - are a bit too much the same. Recently I had a Walter purge. I kept four of the eight I had: Moondreams - because it has that CTI sound Popcorn (with Luiz Henrique) - because it sounded different than the others Samba So - because it was recorded in Brazil and even though I wouldn't try to sell the idea that he made better records before he left Brazil, there is something more dynamic about this record and.. Brazil's Greatest hits - because that's the one he plays synthesizer on Recently at the Goodwill store of all places, I found another one and bought it because what the hell, I was surprised to find Walter Wanderley at the Goodwill AND I liked the groovy title - even though I've seen it on other records - and the groovy cover. "Organ-ized" It too seems somehow more genuine, more Brazilian, less watered down. I wonder what BJ would say about my pronouncements. So how many Walters do you have Jimmy? AZ > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Today's Arrivals Date: 11 Jun 2001 21:53:34 EDT In a message dated 6/11/1 8:48:57 PM, DJJimmyBee wrote: >>So how many Walters do you have Jimmy? > >Motor Comp, Scamp Comp and about 6 LP's which, off the top, are "Murmurio", "Rain Forest", "Chechanga", "Batucada", "Brazilian Organ", "From Rio With Love", "When It Was Done", & "Brazil's Greatest Hits" (1980, GNP Crescendo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Today's Arrivals Date: 11 Jun 2001 21:48:57 EDT In a message dated 6/11/1 7:54:15 PM, azed@pathcom.com wrote: >So how many Walters do you have Jimmy? Motor Comp, Scamp Comp and about 6 LP's # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Raymond Scott Question Date: 11 Jun 2001 20:04:57 -0700 For quite a while, I've been avoiding paying too much for the Columbia "Raymond Scott's Drawing Room" LP because I figured it was just dubby, echo chambered versions of the original 30's recordings. The other day, I picked up "Columbia's Hall of Fame: Ballroom Bandstand" which included two Raymond Scott cuts. Sure enough, The Toy Trumpet was a dubby, echo chambered version, but the version of In An 18th Century Drawing Room was a modern hi-fi recording. I assume these are the same tracks that are included on the RS's Drawing Room LP... Which cuts on the LP are newly recorded, and which are the dubby dub dubs? Are there enough newly recorded tracks to make the LP worth the crazy price? See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Laid Bare Date: 11 Jun 2001 22:16:08 -0500 I can't remember if this has been mentioned before, so apologies if I'm covering old ground. With the recent mini-thread on crime jazz, however, it seems like a good time to mention "Laid Bare" (Amok Books). This is an absolutely incredible CD! It consists of readings by writer John Gilmore (author of "Severed", about the Black Dahlia murder case, among others), accompanied by the quintessentially crime jazzy music of Skip Heller, with Bob Drasnin on flute and theremin by Teller! The stories all have a sort of 1950s "California noir" flavor, ranging from bits about the Black Dahlia, Ed Wood, Charles Manson, James Dean and Dennis Hopper. If you like crime jazz, or you enjoyed "L.A. Confidential", you might like this CD, too. Got my copy direct from Amok Books: http://www.amokbooks.com/ It's the first CD released by Amok and IMHO, it's a definite winner! Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retrolisten.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) what Dj types play live Date: 12 Jun 2001 01:31:38 -0400 This is probably a better question for that popnouveau list but I'm sure I can get as good an answer here. Fantastic Plastic Machine with Tim Love Lee opening. What are the chances they'll "play" anything that vaguely reminds me of their records? I doubt I'll go but if I thought there was a good chance they wouldn't play house music - or something equally awful - all night, I might consider it. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) 2 Dial-ated Pupils, The Innocents Date: 12 Jun 2001 10:10:47 +0200 WOW, The Innocents is one of my all time fave films. I could never have dreamt there would be anything available on vinyl.The soundtrack they eventually used in the film is truly amazing (don't know about the LP version, a soundtrack can become significantly different in the editing process) lt's a fifties or early sixties British horror film, with lots of great soundeffects, echos etc. I would call the soundtrack proto-psychedelic. I am VERY jealous of this find. Does the record have a date ? Is it from England? Tell me more. Daniel Shiman wrote: >Alex North -- Cut 5, Cue D, Act 1, Scene 3 (incidental music from) "The >Innocents" -- LP -- Major Production Music. >This is the first production library LP that I've found in a thrift store. >Vibraphones, gongs, and eerie electronic drones (ring modulators?). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) what Dj types play live Date: 12 Jun 2001 09:35:43 > >This is probably a better question for that popnouveau list but I'm sure I >can get as good an answer here. >Fantastic Plastic Machine with Tim Love Lee opening. >What are the chances they'll "play" anything that vaguely reminds me of >their records? I doubt I'll go but if I thought there was a good chance >they wouldn't play house music - or something equally awful - all night, I >might consider it. > >AZ I don't get it. Tim 'Love' Lee's music is nearly all house music. There are one or two exceptions but essentially his own productions *are* deep house. The one or two exceptions are side 4 of his first album (and the great 12" edit superrapin' #9) and one other on that album. And some early stuff. They are my favourite things by him and I don't listen to his new album which has the snooze factor turned way up. I haven't heard the new FPM album but the previous one suffered from far too much indifferent house. Unfortunately I like him for his great mixing of strings and more for his huge and very busy breakbeats. Things he's no longer interested in. It's largely to do with the way the dance music industry is currently selling things. Breakbeats remind people of big beat which is death in terms of hipness. The Chemical Brothers last album was trance. Well nearly. New breaks is kind of aggressive d'n'b splatter and nearly everything else is 4square and regular apart from US r'n'b (Timbaland is god) and UK garage. Kids here listen to pretty much nothing except trance and American r'n'b. Other than that there is of course the Nu Jazz thing (in St. Germaine's case it is house of course, nice to see JB mention Javier Fischer Trio earlier on), or the Compost/Jazzanova end which is largely backroom or chill out, ie. not for dancefloors. Way it works: most people want facile beats to dance to. Particularly on E. Another factor is the 'hot' mix essential for radio play. But discussing trends in mastering killing sonic invention is probably outside the remit of the list. rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) Exotica Mailingliste / Kahuna Kawentzmann Date: 12 Jun 2001 13:32:31 +0200 (MEST) Hallo Moritz, ich hab mal wieder den Verdacht , das meine Post nicht bei der Exotica Mailingliste angekommen ist. Hast Du die Antwort von mir auf das Mail von Kahuna Kawentzmann erhalten ? Aloha Martin P.S. Heute Abend gibt’s viel Sitar und Bollywood bei der Space Escapade -- Machen Sie Ihr Hobby zu Geld bei unserem Partner 1&1! http://profiseller.de/info/index.php3?ac=OM.PS.PS003K00596T0409a -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Gingerich Subject: (exotica)Valentino, BBC soundfx on Digibid.... Date: 12 Jun 2001 08:38:17 -0400 http://www.digibid.com/item/showItem.cfm?aid=63649 It's true, this collection is on LP vinyl, NOT CD format...BUT it's also true that the collection has been meticulously protected, and is in PRISTINE condition. There are TWO (2) sound effects libraries offered together as one package, offering every imaginable sound in this gallaxy, and a few from neighboring gallaxies! The Valentino sound effects library is a creative-guru's dream, and consist of 30 clean and pampered LP's, with an ideal index manual included. The second library is the famous B.B.C. 'Films For The Humanities' library, which consist of 50, (yes FIFTY) pristine LP's. Those meticulous Brits have certainly outdone themselves with this collection! This one's also profusely indexed by it's own quite informative manual and index. www.digibid.com/item/showItem.cfm?aid=63649 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Weekend goodies..... Date: 12 Jun 2001 09:03:00 -0400 Found a few interesting LP's this weekend, haven't listened to them yet: Enoch Light: "The Private Life of a Private Eye" - includes titles like = Harlem Hot-Shot in a Hurry and Mess in Morocco. Can't possibly be as good = as I'd like it too............. Enoch Light: "I Want to Be Happy Cha Chas" - a classic, and I finally have = a copy on vinyl. What's up with those weird boxed in "art" covers. I = think the LP mentions somehting about "fine art!!!"=20 "The Enchanted Tiki Room" - Vinyl isn't in too bad a shape, but has = definitely been in the hands of an adoring kiddie. Mostly surface = scratches. The jacket and booklet are in great shape except the album = does have a seam split at the bottom. There wasn't any dust jacket - but = for a quarter I can't complain! If you look closely at one of the photos = there's a guy waiting to get into the tiki room wearing a fez! Milt Raskin "Exotic Percussion" - Again, another one with great titles = like Pele's Creation and Forbidden, but I doubt it'll live up to expectatio= ns. The cover has a primitive b&w print transfer of multiple hands in = "motion" hitting an invisible congo drum. I didn't buy a few Korean LP's of women singing American "moldy oldies" = like Singing in the Rain, etc. The songs just made me shudder. But to = hear them in Korean would be cute - the band leader was a great "Sinatra" = type with suite and pinky ring. =20 - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: (exotica) miyoshi umeki Date: 12 Jun 2001 21:55:09 +0800 hi all, i recently picked up this disc by miyoshi umeki. she came up in a discussion on the p5 list regarding the song sayonara. anyway, the disc's name is "miyoshi sings for arthur godfrey" and the cover features a picture of miyoshi(in a kimono) sitting with godfrey. the cover also says "miyoshi umeki sings american songs in japanese", when i read that i thought the songs would all be in japanese but only portions of the songs are in japanese. the songs are pretty much straight ahead vocal tracks, songs that would fit in nicely with rosemary clooney or doris day. that sort of thing, very good and very nice. this is a japanese reissue, but the cd sleeve is cardboard to emulate a record label, and looks pretty much like a miniature record jacket. i wish more cds were packaged this way. there are two versions of the song "sayonara" on here. one is a bonus track. one is written by yoshida/morgan and the other is written by irving berlin. anyone have any idea which version came first? they are very similiar. one of the things that motivated me to pick this up was that when she came up on the p5 list it was revealed that in addition to her singing career she played the japanese maid on the courtship of eddie's father. at the time i had no idea how famous she was, but i have since learned that she was a regular on the arthur godfrey show for many years - it almost seems odd that i don't recall hearing much about her before. a week or so after picking up this disc, i picked up another miyoshi disc, but i don't like it quite as much. its simply called "miyoshi"(same great packaging though). it seems more straight ahead, all sung in english. maybe it still just needs to grow on me. other recent purchases include a disc by the swingle singers - which is ok, but i think i may of been expecting it to swing a little more. i like it, but maybe i'm not head over hells over it quite yet. through the help of fellow list member larry - i managed to get it without having to pay 8 bucks in postage. and i'm very happy to have it too! hearing all this great music from classic don knott's movies made me want to see those movie's again. especially "the ghost and mr. chicken" though it appears that it hasn't been re-issued on dvd yet. :( william in taipei. ps. does anyone know if there is a good web page out there about anita kerr? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: Subject: Re: (exotica) Shorty Rogers Date: 11 Jun 2001 20:25:53 -0400 Well I know its not a Shorty Rogers record... far from it actually... but Alan did mention he wanted some crime jazz recommendations and I just got this one, so here goes: Various Artists - Strassenfeger (Originalmusik aus den deutschen Thriller - Kultserien). This one includes Erwin Halletz, Joe Jerkins, Gerhard Narholz, Peter Thomas, Heinz Frank, Hans-Martin Majewski, Berry Lipman, Siegfried Franz, Martin Botttcher, Sam Spence, etc. Although I have a few of the tracks (Erwin Halletz and Peter Thomas), this CD is by far better than any of the four Kriminalfilmusik series compilations and in some ways closer in affinity to Gert Wilden's brand of sound but with a very crime jazz theme. Good liner notes although completely in German. The one problem is I had to have it sent to me from Germany as the label Cinesoundz doesn't seem to be available here in Canada. Anyone else want to second this recommendation? Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (exotica) Road trip-Route 66 Date: 12 Jun 2001 09:58:21 -0400 Colleen wrote: > I know a lot has been lost to the interstate, but I hear there's a lot still left of the > Mother Road. If anyone knows anything, let me know. I forgot I had planned to reply to this and just found it in my drafts folder. Sorry for the delay! Anyway, this is one of two road trips I've always thought would be fun (the other is a road trip through the barbecue belt). I've never seen that much of Route 66 but while in Albuquerque a few years back we were on it and didn't actually realize it! We were driving around the outskirts of the city, were amazed at the sheer scale of the strip development; Instead of the usual used car lots, the strip was filled with enormous lots of used RV's and mobile homes. I remembered seeing a few old road signs and something with Route 66 marked on it. It was then we figured it out! I certainly enjoyed New Mexico although I suspect it may not be at all like its neighbours, Arizona or Texas. I say go for it! Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Weekend goodies..... Date: 12 Jun 2001 10:43:57 EDT In a message dated Tue, 12 Jun 2001 9:04:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Nathan Miner" writes: << Found a few interesting LP's this weekend, haven't listened to them yet: Enoch Light: "The Private Life of a Private Eye" - includes titles like Harlem Hot-Shot in a Hurry and Mess in Morocco. Can't possibly be as good as I'd like it too............. It is pretty good...I found it a few years back while I was into Crime Jazz heavily (and exclusively for this list's purpose---back in '94 when i was unaware of this movement) and still own it...Its right up there with his two or three top LP's # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Chaino "Jungle Echoes" Date: 12 Jun 2001 11:48:02 -0400 >>This is a wonderful, quirky, unique powerhouse of a record. All >percussion, all the time, with some scattered vocalizing over top. As it >started off, I thought, "Oh yeah, it IS pure percussion." After a couple of >minutes, I began thinking, "Errm, this could get a little boring.".< > >It's funny that you did that little intro about how the records we find are >often better in the anticipation than in the actual hearing. You claim >this isn't such a record. >I think it qualifies myself. I'm a little unclear here... are you saying you've also listened to the record and found it disappointing, or are you saying I'm in denial about rationalizing it myself? I'll assume the latter for the moment (there's nothing to dispute about the former, of course). No, my adjustment to the record wasn't one of those rationalization deals, but just getting oriented to his groove. Kind of like the first time you listen to, say, Blind Willie Johnson, and it takes you some time to find your feet. Also, the vocalizing on the opening track, "Jungle Chase" is so outrageous (aye, Ben, despite the liner note misdirections, something like "Jungle Whoopie" would be a more apt title) you can't really take in the music. If the whole album were like that track, I think I would find it kind of tedious. But overall, I find it pretty interesting. The grooves breathe, he has unique phrasing. Rather than being a simple "pound-pound" affair, it has an atmosphere that sort of reminds me of James "Blood" Ulmer or Ronald Shannon Jackson... that late 70s/ early 80s Coleman-schooled scene. Except simpler and rougher. >Another way to describe some of the records >we're looking for is "I love the IDEA but I wonder if I'll enjoy the record". >I like the fact that this is nothing but percussion. I like that people >made records like that. But I've never heard one that actually sustained >my interest past one play, if that far. It can go astray pretty easily. But I like to hear it attempted at least. Rhythm all on its own has a purity and power that I can really enjoy. When you bring in tonal instruments with melody and harmony, the percussion gets hobbled into a subservient role pretty quickly. At the least, it's a different perspective that's good to try now and then. >Once upon a time I liked drum >solos. Now not so much. At this point in time, I find it hard to imagine many things funnier than a rock drum solo. The 70s had to be the golden age for funny drum solos, with all those 'everything and the kitchen sink' drumkits. Don't forget the gong! But getting back to expectations... I think I prefer to have my expectations defied and have the music smack me around and challenge my tastes. Chaino was a bit like that... from everything I've heard, I expected the album to be more of a busy pounder, but it turned out to be a bit more subtle, which I rather preferred. Unfortunately, our expectations are probably more often simply let down. Best to try to avoid expectations. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) what Dj types play live Date: 12 Jun 2001 09:02:31 -0700 >This is probably a better question for that popnouveau list but I'm sure I >can get as good an answer here. >Fantastic Plastic Machine with Tim Love Lee opening. >What are the chances they'll "play" anything that vaguely reminds me of >their records? I doubt I'll go but if I thought there was a good chance >they wouldn't play house music - or something equally awful - all night, I >might consider it. make sure its not a DJ set. I went to see FPM play about 2 years ago, paid $15 to watch him play records. Cool records nontheless, and he is a fantastic DJ, but not worth $15. Be forwarned!!! -jonny yuma _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Lve Lee Date: 12 Jun 2001 17:07:04 +0100 Down here he tends to play teh hip hop / grubby funk / breakbeaty clubs. fairly regularly, I haven't actually got out to see him. I know Rob did have a rant to me recently about him not turning up at a gig. But that of course has nothing to do with his response. At teh clubs he plays at I can't imagine him playing anything like Lone Lee. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The Stare This is probably a better question for that popnouveau list but I'm sure I can get as good an answer here. Fantastic Plastic Machine with Tim Love Lee opening. What are the chances they'll "play" anything that vaguely reminds me of their records? I doubt I'll go but if I thought there was a good chance they wouldn't play house music - or something equally awful - all night, I might consider it. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) re: Rocky Roberts Date: 12 Jun 2001 17:09:24 +0100 hey Gionni, Long time no here, good to see you're still out there. Any actual recommendations? or just any 60's thing. I've been playing that track a lot, my 3 year old daughter loves it too. Geoff El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The Stare Anything Rocky recorded in the 6Ts is damn groovy, be it in english or italian language. He actually started his career in France, in the late 50's, with the Airedales, a band made of U.S black marines/soldiers who took the land by storm with their blend of genuine rock'n'roll. In the 60's he crossed the Alps and landed in Italy, where he stayed ever since. His 6Ts stuff is jamesbrownish stomping uptempo soul floorshakers, the kind that make you wanna sweat to the beat. Great guy, great music. Gotta love him. Ciao Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: Re: (exotica) The LP Show Date: 13 Jun 2001 00:23:07 +0800 Hi Lou, I went along on Saturday, and I must say it was quite amazing. The show is HUGE, with loosely related LP covers stacked four or five high in a huge strip around all of the walls. There is one wall of 'Whipped Cream' covers, with a few spoofs thrown in; next to it is a set of 'sound of music'-related LPs. Seeing all these LPs together was really remarkable. Many, if not most of the LPs would seem familiar to listmemembers- from their own collection and from the 'Incredibly Strange Music' books. It was also interesting to see which new covers were deemed to be interesting enough to mix in - e.g. Air's Premieres Symptomes, several Smiths singles and albums... It is free to get in. Also, there seems to be a bar in the gallery- superb! There is a website people can check out - www.exitart.org jonny www.psychedelicado.com >If anyone gets to this show before I do, I'd love to hear a report! >lousmith@pipeline.com >'THE LP SHOW' With installations by John Zorn, Thurston Moore, DJ Spooky, and Christian Marclay (whose piece involves 80 identical Tijuana Brass LPs), this show of more than 2500 weird and wonderful album covers is not just for vinyl junkies. Organizer Carlo McCormick focuses on the LP sleeve as a popular, often anonymous, and now all but extinct art form lovingly preserved by collectors, over 50 of whom are listed as contributing curators. Along with their accumulations of Hawaiian, Japanese, and Christian ventriloquist albums, there are surveys of work by graphic artists from the '30s to the present, including Frank Kozik, Art Chantry, and Foetus. OPENS SATURDAY, THROUGH AUGUST 17, Exit Art, 548 Broadway, at Prince Street, 966-7745. -- tell us about your favorite songs! http://musicaltaste.net _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.lycosmail.com Powered by Outblaze # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: (exotica) Schifrin - Piano, strings.../Wanderley Date: 13 Jun 2001 00:24:26 +0800 >Ahhh... still looking for that one. Is that the one with "Maria" &... "Wave" >I think, both on that German "Mission Impossible and more" anthology? If so, >the string writing impressed me, very angular & not so... lush & >"beautiful." Gotta keep looking. Yes, that's the one. I'm coming in late on this one, but people might be interested to know that 'Piano Strings and Bossa nova' was reissued in the late 60s as 'Insensatez', which I managed to pick up recently. And yes, it is quite wonderful, remarkably clean sounding, and with a superb energy which IMO is missing from many early 60s bossa nova-themed jazz recordings. Re: Walter Wanderley, I recently picked up 'kee Ka roo' from 1967, which I enjoyed very much. I also enjoyed 'Popcorn' with Luiz Henrique very much. I have a bunch of his albums on Philips and Capitol and Verve. To me, the Verve ones are far, far better - better sound, better arrangements. But I haven't yet given them all the time they deserve. jonny www.psychedelicado.com -- tell us about your favorite songs! http://musicaltaste.net _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.lycosmail.com Powered by Outblaze # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: (exotica) Ramsey Lewis - Mother Nature's Son Date: 13 Jun 2001 00:35:20 +0800 I picked up Ramsey Lewis's 'Mother Nature's Son' recently, and it strikes me as the best record I've bought for some time. It is an album of covers from the Beatles 'white album', recorded in the late 60s, and on the cadet label. Anyway, IMO, it's an orchestral pop masterpiece, the kind of thing I had wanted for ages. Almost every track is an outstanding blend of thick strings, electric piano and really nice drum beats, with the added bonus of some moog effects. Standout tracks are 'dear prudence', 'julia', 'cry baby cry' and 'back in the USSR', but the whole thing is really pretty excellent, with even the most well known songs sounding very fresh. I have a perception that Ramsey Lewis is perceived to be a hack, yet I really like all the records I have by him, particularly the ones from the late 50s and the late 60s stuff on Cadet. Much of the late 60s stuff was produced by Richard Evans, who produced the incredible Dorothy Ashby records, amongst other things. Does anyone else have any strong feelings on Ramsey Lewis? jonny www.psychedelicado.com -- tell us about your favorite songs! http://musicaltaste.net _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.lycosmail.com Powered by Outblaze # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) Schifrin - Piano, strings.../Wanderley Date: 12 Jun 2001 17:41:52 +0100 Talking of Schifrin I bought a Japanese copy of Bullitt a few years ago = and always considered it to be inferior to the American original but I saw = it in Reckless Records Soho at the weekend for =A3150. What's all that about = then? And has anyone got or heard Gone with the Wave? Is it a surf soundtrack = or just a Lalo LP? Cheers all. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: (exotica) oops Date: 13 Jun 2001 00:43:04 +0800 > other recent purchases include a disc by the swingle singers - which is >ok, but i think i may of been expecting it to swing a little more. i like >it, but maybe i'm not head over hells over it quite yet. through the help of >fellow list member larry - i managed to get it without having to pay 8 bucks >in postage. and i'm very happy to have it too! hearing all this great music >from classic don knott's movies made me want to see those movie's again. >especially "the ghost and mr. chicken" though it appears that it hasn't been >re-issued on dvd yet. :( oops! ok, in case anyone was confused by that. the disc larry helped me get was the vic mizzy release "suites and themes" not the swingle singers, who are pretty easy to find here. william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Shiman" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ramsey Lewis - Mother Nature's Son Date: 12 Jun 2001 17:24:00 I am a big fan of Ramsey Lewis's output starting with Wade In the Water (1966, Cadet), and running through Upendo Ni Pamoja (1972, his first LP on Columbia). Even his Bossa Nova LP (1963?, Cadet) and his Latin thing ("Goin' Latin", mid-60's?) fare much better than similar enterprises by other jazz musicians. Perhaps even more than most, Lewis (or his A&R people) was certainly willing to exploit the latest pop-music trend, but he always seemed to manage it with incomparable groove. "Jade East", from "Up Pops Ramsey Lewis" is an undiscovered dancey bit of sitar-tinged latin jazz. Maiden Voyage and Another Voyage are also great, probably I would count them among my fave-rits: both (I think) featuring the unmistakable psychedelic guidance of Richard "Soulful Strings" Evans, who really started letting loose with the eerie string sections and ominous, heavy-handed productions on those late 60's Cadet releases. -Dan Hear! "Dial-ated Pupils" -- every Saturday 4-6 pm CST exclusively at www.radio1austin.com. I will lead you safely through the perilous dark jungles of Austin's scratchiest record collection. Exotic jazz. Obscure Latin, Afro, and Eastern grooves. Easy listening arcana. Bring your bug spray. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) The LP Show Date: 12 Jun 2001 13:53:00 -0400 Jonny Perl wrote: > Hi Lou, There is a website people can check out - www.exitart.org ================ Thanks for the review, Jonny! Looks like a definite must-see for those in the NYC region. I took a look at the website and found a list of the people who contributed covers: LP Curators Charlie Ahearn The Analogue Society-Lamay Photo, Tiffany Anders, Delphine Blue, DJ Steve Blush Seconds, Dan Brown, Robbie Busch, Laura Cantrell WFMU, Dave Cirilli, Michael Connelly, Julie Covello a.k.a. DJ Shakey WFMU, Dennis Dermody, dj $mall ¢hange WFMU, Spencer Drate, Walter Durkacz, Luis Fernandezn, Jack Fetterman, Finyl Vinyl, Jesse Fischler Shrine Music, Kenny G WFMU, David Garland WNYC, Gerb Vinyl Preservation Society, Coleman Hasie, Erik Hanson, Nicholas Hill WFMU, Stephen Holman, Mark Ibold, M. Henry Jones Psychedelic Solution, Jacaeber Kastor, Jutta Koether, Eric Kohler, Kevin Krich, Steve Lafreniere editor Index magazine, Marcus Lambkin Plant, Joseph Lanza, Paul Major Parallel World, James Marshall Hound Archives, Bob Nickas, Deb Parker Beauty Bar and Barmacy, Freddie Patterson Boogaloo Omnibus Productions, George Petros, Peter Principle, Chris and Heather's Record Roundup Chicago, Fabio Roberti Ear Wax Records WFMU, Bill Rouleau RushMor Records Milwaukee, Anita S! ! arko, Rafael Sanchez, Michael J. Schnapp, Matt E. Silver, Andy Somma, John Stanier, Matt Sweeney, Jeremy Tepper, J. G. Thirlwell, Stephen Vitiello, Rob Weisberg WFMU Transpacific Sound Paradise, Norman Weisberg, Sioux Z., Maria Zastrow & Pete Shore lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Weekend goodies..... Date: 12 Jun 2001 14:28:51 -0400 At 09:03 AM 6/12/01 -0400, Nathan Miner wrote: > >Found a few interesting LP's this weekend, haven't listened to them yet: > >Enoch Light: "The Private Life of a Private Eye" - includes titles like Harlem Hot-Shot in a Hurry and Mess in Morocco. Can't possibly be as good as I'd like it too............. I don't know how good you want it to be but you're probably right. This is a perfect example of the idea being way better than the execution. Having said that, there are a few cuts that are almost as good as you'd want them to be. You can slip them into a "crime jazz" compilation and they basically fit. >Enoch Light: "I Want to Be Happy Cha Chas" - a classic, and I finally have a copy on vinyl. What's up with those weird boxed in "art" covers. I think the LP mentions somehting about "fine art!!!" I assume it's on Grand Award rather than just Command. When I had my Command purge, I think I kept this one just for the cover. >Milt Raskin "Exotic Percussion" - Again, another one with great titles like Pele's Creation and Forbidden, but I doubt it'll live up to expectations. I don't know. The way that one hit my jealousy button, I have a feeling it might be as good as you think it could be. The way you describe the cover reminds me of "The Percussive Phil Kraus" which surpassed my expectations. Keep your fingers crossed. My exotica/lounge collection has been decimated but I would keep that one myself. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Ramsey Lewis - Mother Nature's Son Date: 12 Jun 2001 15:06:55 -0400 At 12:35 AM 6/13/01 +0800, Jonny Perl wrote: > >I picked up Ramsey Lewis's 'Mother Nature's Son' recently, and it strikes me as the best record I've bought for some time. >I have a perception that Ramsey Lewis is perceived to be a hack, yet I really like all the records I have by him, particularly the ones from the late 50s and the late 60s stuff on Cadet. >Does anyone else have any strong feelings on Ramsey Lewis? Yes but first let me ask you is that the Ramsey Lewis with the alternating colored squares on the cover? I've had the same love/boredom relationship with Ramsey. Assuming he's just a hack but then hearing something in a store and loving it. I've bought his records, recorded them, sold them and then gone out and bought more. At present I find myself owning just three. "Wade in the Water" is the best of his acoustic piano records that I've heard. I kept "Ramsey Pops Up" or something like that partly because of the cover. And from the way you describe the record you just got, the last one I still have is a bit like that. It's something like his "all-time hits" NEWLY recorded. It's like Ramsey's jazz fusion record. Ramsey takes a crack at the Fender Rhodes. I also agree with you about Richard Evans. I've liked everything I ever bought that he produced. The Soulful Strings is an obvious example. But recently I bought this Eddie Higgins record with arrangements by Richard Evans. I seem to remember Eddie Higgins had a hand in a moog record I had but this was a pretty straighforward piano and orchestra record. Straightforward but beautiful. So what was the story with Richard Evans? I've always assumed he was black but I realize that's based on rather silly assumptions. But back to your original question, I think of Ramsey sort of like Sergio Mendes. You shouldn't underestimate him. And if you turned his records on at a party, it would always work. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trevor Rigler Subject: (exotica) getting one's kicks... Date: 12 Jun 2001 13:24:23 -0600 Brian wrote: >>Colleen wrote: >> >>I know a lot has been lost to the interstate, but I hear there's a lot >>still left of the Mother Road. If anyone knows anything, let me know. > >I forgot I had planned to reply to this and just found it in my drafts >folder. Sorry for the delay! Anyway, this is one of two road trips I've >always thought would be fun (the other is a road trip through the barbecue >belt). I've never seen that much of Route 66 but while in Albuquerque a few >years back we were on it and didn't actually realize it! We were driving >around the outskirts of the city, were amazed at the sheer scale of the >strip development; Instead of the usual used car lots, the strip was filled >with enormous lots of used RV's and mobile homes. I remembered seeing a few >old road signs and something with Route 66 marked on it. It was then we >figured it out! I certainly enjoyed New Mexico although I suspect it may >not be at all like its neighbours, Arizona or Texas. I say go for it! > >Brian FWIW: Old 66 basically bisects Albuquerque (in the guise of Central Ave) and provides something of a line of demarcation for the city's quadrant street address system. Not much on Central exists to remind visitors of the legacy of Route 66 other than the relevant bus line (the 66, natch), and a few business names (a tattoo parlor, a diner, etc.). Once you get a bit west of the RV dealers, you will start to see lots of Vietnamese restaurants and interesting "allied tradespersons" (depending on the time of day). Eventually you will go past the university, on into downtown (which is currently in the throes of some sort of half-assed attempts at renewal), and onward... If you happen to be passing through the Duke City at breakfast time, I highly recommend stopping in at Loyola's Cactus Flower (sort of sandwiched in between a South Asian grocery and a big gun store). It is true classic NM diner brekkie fare, guaranteed to clog arteries. Exotica record shopping is ok in fits and starts here. I have been staying out of the thrifts lately, so I can't really recommend anything in that department. There is some sort of Tiki-themed bar downtown, but it appears to be a recent creation set up for the collegiate hipster crowd. Have fun on your trip. ---trevor # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hep Cat Subject: (exotica) Richard Cheese at Chatini Bar this Friday Date: 12 Jun 2001 15:26:41 -0700 (PDT) This Friday 6/15 Richard Cheese will do a guest chat at Chatini Bar, at 9PM EST/ 6PM PST. http://www.chatini.com Richard Cheese, lounge singer extraordinaire, discusses his latest CD "Lounge Against The Machine," in which he converts some of the most popular and harsh alternative rock songs into lounge music. Richard Cheese is the not-so-subtle lounge-singer alias of writer/actor/comedian/singer Mark Jonathan Davis, who created a Dr. Demento request favorite with "The Star Wars Cantina." The Los Angeles-based Davis has made appearances on NewsRadio, Batman: The Animated Series, and The Late Show with David Letterman. For the Richard Cheese project, Davis assembled a big band and recorded lounge covers of '90s alternative rock hits. The resulting album, "Lounge Against the Machine," will knock you flat on your back gasping for air with laughter. You can hear outtakes from "Lounge Against The Machine" on cdnow.com, and visit Cheese's website at richardcheese.com. On Friday our DJ Chez Whitey will be spinning Cheese's tracks at http://radio.chatini.com. Until then tune in for hundreds of hours of retro standards and question marks streamed at 128K. Chatini Bar (chatini.com) is a growing community of exoticats (and freaks rounded up off the street) interested in retro lounge culture (and various and sundry other things). We mix masterful cocktails, spin incredibly strange music, and meet online to share in the neverending adventure of late 50's, early 60's lounge culture, its revival, and its remaking. Join in! Ford Baxter Bar Manager P.S. Please send suggestions for future guest chats to bartenders@chatini.com. Currently we are working on getting the Tiki Tones in, and retro artist Shag (shag-art.com) will be chatting in July. _____________________________________________________________ Enjoy the hip cats and magical martinis at the world's most famous martini bar, Chatini! http://www.chatini.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Combustible Edison Comp? Date: 12 Jun 2001 18:52:18 -0400 on 6/8/01 12:48 AM, Kevin Crossman at kevin@kevdo.com wrote: > I'm embarrased to say I'm in the same boat - haven't yet kicked in for > Combustible Edison album either. Are there any plans to release a > "greatest hits" or somesuch comp for those of us interested in getting > started? SubPop released a promotional CD called something like "The Combustible Edison Mixer", which had the dozen most popular cuts from our albums - i.e., the ones that were licensed to the most movies/tv commercials etc. I've seen copies at used record stores occassionally. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra Date: 12 Jun 2001 18:52:18 -0400 on 6/7/01 11:59 AM, Moritz R at tiki@netsurf.de wrote: > > Way coool. Got a copy of House Industries mag #25 in the mail today with an > incredible full page Andy Cruz painting of Br. Cleve's very own band on the > cover, standing in front of a vermilion colored 2001-type of monolith declared > as the road sign of a House Casino Hotel with "its original shareholders" in > front, which apparently are Andy Cruz, Br. Cleve etc., you name it... just back from Italy and London and catching up on the emails here - - Jimmy correctly pointed out that the gentlemen pictured on the cover are indeed the House Industries staff. I make it to the inside of the catalog and the back cover of the cd. > And there's a CD with music by Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra that you can > buy for 125$. 125$? Yes, 125$. It comes along with a set of House Industries > fonts called Las Vegas... Each House Industries CD-ROM has come with some sort of bonus - e.g., the Tiki Fonts came with a Polynesian styled glass and tracks from the Estrus catalog, the Outer Space fonts came with tracks by Peter Thomas (as well as remixes). The $125 covers the fonts/clip art etc and the license to use them. As most people in the graphics world know, this is pretty standard pricing for typography. > Also I (uhumm!) got a copy of Combustible Edison's "The Impossible World" CD > today and for the first time in my life I listened to it! I can't believe how > this could happen, it's so unlikely. I mean, I listen to this kind of music > half of my life, I'm in the same mailing list with one of the band members and > the cover designer of the CD is a friend of mine... and still it could happen > that this album didn't get in my way until this very day. thanks - - we were very proud of The Impossible World, which unfortunately got very bad distribution due to problems the SubPop label was having financially at the time of its release. And the industries 6-montyh love affair with "swing" was in full force at the same time. > BTW: Brother Cleve, is there any chance to listen to the material of that > House Ind. CD for less than 125$? I'm shopping it around currently, so it could be available sometime in the future. If there's enouigh interest in the meantime, I may make CD-R copies available (without the fonts, of course). br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) what Dj types play live Date: 12 Jun 2001 18:52:18 -0400 on 6/12/01 1:31 AM, alan zweig at azed@pathcom.com wrote: > > This is probably a better question for that popnouveau list but I'm sure I > can get as good an answer here. > Fantastic Plastic Machine with Tim Love Lee opening. > What are the chances they'll "play" anything that vaguely reminds me of > their records? I've dj'd with Tanaka and seen Tim Lee, so..... Tanaka (aka Fantastic Plastic Maschine), normally plays a housey/clubpop type of set, often opening with some slower more bossa-based grooves (but all new records). He's an incredibly inventive dj, the way he mixes one type of beat into another quite flawlessly. He plays a fair amount of noveau disco type tracks also, like his new "Take Me To The Disco". Tim Love Lee tends to move around genres quite a bit, focusing mainly on old skool hip hop styled breaks, mixed with rock steady and reggae tracks and some breakbeat stuff. He played some big beat when I saw him recently in the U.S., as we haven't had the backlash to it (since it was never that popular here) as they've had in Britain recently. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Larry Subject: Re: (exotica) oops Date: 12 Jun 2001 19:49:12 -0400 I guess I was confused by that...mostly because my name is Larry and I just recently sold a couple of Swingle Singers LPs on eBay. I checked to see if you were one of my buyers, but now I see that we didn't have a deal after all. Perhaps next time. :-) Larry (eBay ID: snargle) At 12:43 AM 6/13/01 +0800, William wrote: > > other recent purchases include a disc by the swingle singers - which is > >ok, but i think i may of been expecting it to swing a little more. i like > >it, but maybe i'm not head over hells over it quite yet. through the help >of > >fellow list member larry - i managed to get it without having to pay 8 >bucks > >in postage. > oops! ok, in case anyone was confused by that. the disc larry helped me >get was the vic mizzy release "suites and themes" not the swingle singers, >who are pretty easy to find here. > > william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HEDCANDY@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 12 Jun 2001 21:38:44 EDT Well... I've been a member of this list for over 4 years. I've posted many times and received, I believe 3 responses to my many posts. I don't know what the deal is, but it is in a small disheartening to say the least. Keep on fruggin' Bye Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obits] Alex DeRenzy, Al Greenwood, Pilar Seurat, Sue Bennett Date: 12 Jun 2001 23:06:05 -0400 http://allmovie.com/cg/avg.dll?p=avg&sql=B87183 Famed hippie porn director Alex DeRenzy has died. For more details, go to www.generossextreme.com Some of our listmembers may be more interested in his documnetary, Weed: This 1972 documentary examines marijuana as a worldwide phenomenon. From wild plants in Missouri, to farms in Mexico and Nepal, the filmmaker explores the plant's natural history and its current use as a recreational drug. Efforts to control it and the nature and economic implications of smuggling operations are discussed. Or I could be wrong and it's his other "documentaries" that are of more interest. ============ Al Greenwood, Local 'Bedspread King,' Dies at 93 LONG BEACH, Calif. -- Al Greenwood, known to Southern Californians as "The Bedspread King," has died. He was 93. Greenwood, a longtime Long Beach resident, died of congestive heart failure Wednesday night at his daughter's and son-in-law's home in nearby Seal Beach. A Massachusetts native who made his way west during the Great Depression, Greenwood became known in his later years for his kitschy late-night television advertisements. His low-budget TV spots, which always starred the velvet-robed-and crowned Greenwood with a twinkle in his eye, helped his two Bedspread Kingdom stores, in Long Beach and South Gate, sell more than a million bedspreads. Greenwood's flagship Long Beach store, located on Pacific Coast Highway, was promoted as "One full city block of bedspreads!" "Buy one today, take it home, and have instant gratification!" he proclaimed in one of his ads. "When was the last time you had instant gratification?" His ads also occasionally featured his offspring, as well as grandchildren. ========== From Los Angeles Times: http://www.latimes.com/obituary/20010610/t000048534.html Pilar Seurat, dancer and actress who portrayed beauties in several films, including "The Young Savages," and in television series of the 1950s and 1960s, has died. She was 62. Seurat, who used the name Pilar Cerveris off-screen, died June 2 in her Los Angeles home of lung cancer. Born Rita Hernandez in Manila, she moved to Los Angeles as a child and began her career as a dancer, working with Ken Murray's "Blackouts" troupe. She moved into acting in the late 1950s with guest roles on such popular television fare as "Maverick," "Rawhide," "Naked City" and "Bonanza." After a key role in the 1961 film "The Young Savages," starring Burt Lancaster as an idealistic district attorney, Seurat became highly popular over the next decade. Whenever a western or detective series of 1960s television called for an Asian woman casting directors immediately thought of the Eurasian Seurat. She was Princess Ching Ling on "The Wild, Wild West," Amra Palli in "The Man from UNCLE" and Moana on "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea." In films, she portrayed Camota in "Battle at Bloody Beach," Mai-Lu in "The Seven Women From Hell" and Miss Santiago in "A Death of Innocence." Busiest on television, Seurat appeared in several episodes of "The FBI" and delved into science fiction in a 1966 episode of "Star Trek"--an experience that inadvertently shaped the career of her only son She took a "Star Trek" phaser home to her little boy, Dean Devlin. He grew up to write and co-produce such science fiction films as "Stargate" and "Independence Day" and the 1998 "Godzilla." Seurat was married and divorced twice, first to Don Devlin, producer of such feature films as "The Witches of Eastwick," and to Don Cerveris. She is survived by her son; a sister, artist Angela Hernandez; and a half sister, TV producer Alana Lambros. The family has asked that memorial donations be sent to the Israel Cancer Research Foundation, 8383 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 341, Beverly Hills, CA 90211. http://allmovie.com/cg/avg.dll?p=avg&sql=B64612 http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Pilar+Seurat%22 ============= From Los Angeles Times: http://www.latimes.com/obituary/20010610/t000048536.html Sue Bennett, 73, a singer on the 1950s television shows "Your Hit Parade" and "Kay Kyser's College of Musical Knowledge," died on May 8 of lung cancer at her home in Brookline, Mass. Born in Indianapolis, Bennett was raised in New York City and graduated from Syracuse University. After college, she joined the cast of a Broadway revue called "Small Wonder." While performing in that show she began singing on the Dumont Television Network's nightly program "Teen Tune Times." In 1949 she joined the Kyser program on NBC and later the cast of "Your Hit Parade," which featured dramatized performances of each week's hit songs. She sang on "Your Hit Parade" in 1951 and 1952. After relocating to the Boston area with her husband, a gynecologist, she sang on various radio programs in the New England area. In the 1960s, she fashioned a new career as a voice-over performer for television and radio commercials. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) what Dj types play live Date: 13 Jun 2001 01:36:45 -0400 At 06:52 PM 6/12/01 -0400, Br. Cleve wrote: > >I've dj'd with Tanaka and seen Tim Lee, so..... > >Tanaka (aka Fantastic Plastic Maschine), normally plays a housey/clubpop >type of set, > >Tim Love Lee tends to move around genres quite a bit, focusing mainly on old >skool hip hop styled breaks So if I have it right, what you're saying is "It's true that their DJ sets sound virtually nothing like their records". I don't know how I'd describe Tanaka's records but I wouldn't use the word "house". Then again, I might call it "clubpop" if I knew what that meant. I also don't have a word for the one Love Lee record I have - "Just call me Lone Lee" but I definitely wouldn't use the words "skool" or "hip hop". So am I misunderstanding or is it true that there is virtually no relationship between their recording lives and their DJ'ing lives? AZ v # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 13 Jun 2001 05:57:54 -0700 (PDT) What were the questions? Perhaps no one knew the answers. Could be you may not have been persistent enough? Or the victim of a cybernetic "bone pointing" ritual? Who cares whether or not our questions are always attended to? I have taken to (additional) drinking to cope with the psychic malaise brought on by the not infrequent silence of the electronic waste. And while there may exist more creative options for putting my worker drone's duties on hold to type out and read fluff such as this, I have learned much and met some interesting individuals (if only "virtually", in most cases)in my 5 year indulgence in this vice. Hope you change your mind. If not, adios --- HEDCANDY@aol.com wrote: > I've been a member of this list for over 4 years. > I've posted many times and received, I believe 3 > responses to my many posts. > I don't know what the deal is, but it is in a small > disheartening to say the > least. ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Weekend goodies..... Date: 13 Jun 2001 06:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Cool score, Nate. I know I might get smacked up for saying this, but I turned my sealed copy of I Want to be happy Chachahchas back into the thrift - in part of a purge of my Enoch Light/Command heaps from the early days of my elevator fever. I love the Disney lp inasmuch as it seems to be canonical amongst our tribe and represents the essence of one our oldest and besieged sadly sacred places. Raskin's Exotic Percussion is quite good (it has that same strangled peacock squalk throughout that Alan referred to in writing of the Surfmen's Exotic Island). It was also marketed by Crown as "Kapu" - with a cover in Exotic tecnicolor (volcano erupting, I think). I can't recall which, but one incarnation is on red wax. I scored both on E-Bay and then found a second (and better) copy of EP at a flea market for a buck (what are you gonna do?). --- Nathan Miner wrote: > > Found a few interesting LP's this weekend, haven't > listened to them yet: > > Enoch Light: "The Private Life of a Private Eye" - > Enoch Light: "I Want to Be Happy Cha Chas" - a > "The Enchanted Tiki Room" - ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Shiman" Subject: Re: (exotica) 2 Dial-ated Pupils, The Innocents Date: 13 Jun 2001 14:30:12 >a soundtrack can become significantly different in the editing process) >lt's a fifties or early sixties British horror film, with lots of great >soundeffects, >of this find. Does the record have a date ? Is it from England? Tell me >more. > >Daniel Shiman wrote: > > >Alex North -- Cut 5, Cue D, Act 1, Scene 3 (incidental music from) "The > >Innocents" -- LP -- Major Production Music. > >This is the first production library LP that I've found in a thrift >store. > >Vibraphones, gongs, and eerie electronic drones (ring modulators?). I inspected this LP more carefully last night. It comes in a typical generic white cardboard sleeve which reads across it in big letters: "Major Records Presents: Major Production Music". I've no idea if this is a known production-music studio, but according to the record label, it was based in New York City. It also says: "The Innocents": Incidental music by Alex North. And that the music was copyrighted in 1967. How it came to arrive in an Austin thrift store is quite beyond me. Anyways, the music really IS incidental music, with very little among the 20 cuts that might be considered more than abstracted tone-poems for odd combinations of woodwinds (bassoons, oboes), or blaring, electronic crooning. The selections don't even have names, just "Cut 12, Cue F, Act 1, Scene 2", etc. The longest cut is 2:38, and many are just 4 or 5 seconds long - they might be the sound of a gong, or a dissonant vibraphone chord, or an electronic organ chord hanging ominously in the air. These are sort of fascinating on their own, though, and are quite emotionally evocative, which I suppose comes from my years of psychic exposure to the same incidental musical cues for emotions in television and movies... -Dan Hear! "Dial-ated Pupils" -- every Saturday 4-6 pm CST exclusively at www.radio1austin.com. I will lead you safely through the perilous dark jungles of Austin's scratchiest record collection. Exotic jazz. Obscure Latin, Afro, and Eastern grooves. Easy listening arcana. Bring your bug spray. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) what Dj types play live Date: 13 Jun 2001 10:45:43 -0400 on 6/13/01 1:36 AM, alan zweig at azed@pathcom.com wrote: > So if I have it right, what you're saying is "It's true that their DJ sets > sound virtually nothing like their records". In many cases, yes. I did a gig with Ursula 1000 a couple of weeks ago, and he played none of his own recordings; he told me that most of the loungecore/breakbeat dj's, such as Skeewif or Resident Filters, play none of their tracks and instead play much harder club music (Ursula, for example, played lots of disco/breaks and samba house). Konishi from Pizzacato 5 played in NYC recently, and his entire set was pretty much gabba (the super sped up techno out of Benelux countries). Kruder & Dorfmeister in NYC played mostly batucada and samba house tracks. Most of these dj's are concerned with the dancefloor, especially if their own music is not as geared toward it. > I might > call it "clubpop" if I knew what that meant. clubpop is the term used for a lot of the music from Japan (as well as Germany) of the last decade - Pizzacato 5, Cornelius, Maxwell Implosion, Kahimi Karie, Towa Tei, et al. > I also don't have a word for the one Love Lee record I have - "Just call me > Lone Lee" but I definitely wouldn't use the words "skool" or "hip hop". yes, his set was nothing like his records. It was very "roots" based - that is, 80's hip hop, from whence the vast majority of new music comes from these days. > So am I misunderstanding or is it true that there is virtually no > relationship between their recording lives and their DJ'ing lives? It depends on the DJ, really. I worked with Nicola Conte over the weekend, and his sets are very much like his own records (which he plays) - lots of brazillian and nu jazz sounds which packed the dancefloor. Thievery Corporation play lots of their own music along with similar styles. Big name dance stars like Basement Jaxx, Fatboy Slim etc play their own stuff, including many dubplates of different, unreleased mixes. I think the majority play stuff that at least resembles their own music stylistically, if not at least one or two of their own records. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 13 Jun 2001 11:35:56 -0400 At 05:57 AM 6/13/01 -0700, Ben Waugh wrote (in reference to HEDCANDY) > >What were the questions? Perhaps no one knew the >answers. If you mention a record I know of, I try to say something. (You might think it's because I love to hear myself type but really I do it FOR YOU.) Is someone really leaving the list because no one answered their questions? Talk to Moritz. Sometimes your posts are out of step with the rest of the list. Then suddenly the earth shifts and you become the sage of the group. Maybe it's too little too late. "Typical. They only notice me when I say I'm leaving". But give us another chance hedcandy/Chris. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) Elevator fever Date: 13 Jun 2001 11:55:34 -0400 At 06:51 AM 6/13/01 -0700, Ben Waugh wrote: >I know I might get smacked up for saying this, but I >turned my sealed copy of I Want to be happy >Chachahchas back into the thrift - in part of a purge >of my Enoch Light/Command heaps from the early days of >my elevator fever. Not from me, you won't get smacked. I'm grinning from ear to ear reading the words "purge" and "early days of elevator fever". I think I'm going to write an essay for my still under construction website, called "Elevator Fever" and I'll credit you Ben. I started this journey with Enoch Light and Command. At first that sound and those covers, were what drove me. I "collected" them. I dreamed of getting all of them. I loved having all four volumes of Persuasive and Provocative. Then the fever broke, so to speak. I kept volume one of each of those. I kept a couple of cha cha records. I kept the Peter Matz record and the Bob and Phil record. I kept the Dimension Three record because that three-channel stereo trick works on me. I kept a few more too I guess. Brass Impact for sure. And I still like Project 3 stuff. The Corporation, some Tony Mottola. Some of the slightly more obscure stuff like the Bob Jung, Arnie Lawrence and especially the Herb Larson record. But that Enoch/Terry Snyder/Lew Davies sound wore on me. And I can't say it's because "it all sounds the same" because lots of my favorite stuff all sounds the same. In the case of that Command sound, it's not so much that it all sounds the same but that the sound is so aggressive that it virtually attacks you with its sameness. I love the incessant busy-ness of the arrangements. I love that they never leave well enough alone. But that wears on me too. AND the tunes get to me. I realize that as much as I have come to love much of the classic American songbook which you hear in exotica, lounge, big band, crooners, jazz, torch singers etc, I do tire of them in a way I don't tire of the "classic sixties songbook" (McArthur Park, This guy's in love, Up up and away, Yesterday, Wichita Lineman..) And I do tire of happy, bouncy things. Ska and polka are indistinguishably evil to me. But I would never put down an Enoch/Command record. I just had to purge. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) Vinyl screening in your nation's capital Date: 13 Jun 2001 12:23:58 -0400 I don't know the times or the exact circumstances. I guess you'll have to do a little phoning or maybe it's on a website but... The film "Vinyl" will be screening at the National Gallery of Art in Washington D.C. on July 21. That's July. It might not be listed on its own. It might be in some kind of program of films from Canada. Or "foreigners attempting to steal an art form which we own". Or maybe "quaint attempts by non-Americans to borrow our culture". Mark it in your calendars. Journey to the Gallery. You can finally put a voice and face with the typewritten rantings you've been subjected to all these years. As long as I never meet YOU, I guess I don't care if you think you know me. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: (exotica) favorite cocktail? Date: 13 Jun 2001 12:21:51 -0400 I was just wondering what everyone's favorite cocktail is when listening to the types of music discussed on this list? For me, it's the vodka martini, not the most exotic drink, but a favorite I can't live without. I also like Vespers, which is sort of my new favorite. Would love to hear your thoughts and also hope to hear of some cocktails I don't know... Randy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) finally I meet some likeminded people Date: 13 Jun 2001 12:28:33 -0400 For me and the other - is there another - Rod McKuen fan on the list. Found this page: http://www.scrammagazine.com/rodstar.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Vinyl screening in your nation's capital Date: 13 Jun 2001 09:29:51 -0700 (PDT) I really hope that's what it is. I love it when culture imperialism is boldly unapologetic (and congratulations in whatever context, btw). --- alan zweig wrote: > films from Canada. Or "foreigners attempting to > steal an art form which we > own". > Or maybe "quaint attempts by non-Americans to borrow > our culture". ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Elevator fever Date: 13 Jun 2001 09:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Good to know the symptoms are not local, but part of a general plague. Binge and purge. That is the summary of my EZ explorations. I kept only the Moog lps (Light, Hyman) one psychedelic Mottola (for cover only), Lew Davies (with morsel of theremin), The Corporation (regretably, The Hellers was never in the collection), some Terry Snyder... Mr Percussion, I think). There is a joy I probably don't need to explain in binging(in that it's shared, and in that it I might focus on its nerdishness, it's silliness, feel self-conscious on my lunchbreak, in my second hand threads)- and also in purging: those huge stacks that overflow the shelving and fostering a vague sense of dread, sponsoring reprobative remarks and glances from insufficiently enlightened spouses (or other amorous sidekicks). --- alan zweig wrote: > Not from me, you won't get smacked. I'm grinning > from ear to ear reading > the words "purge" and "early days of elevator > fever". > I think I'm going to write an essay for my still > under construction > website, called "Elevator Fever" and I'll credit you > Ben. ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) favorite cocktail? Date: 13 Jun 2001 10:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Hands down, it's the mai tai for me(mine = 2oz gold barbados rum, 1/2 oz orgeat, 1/2 oz orange curacao, juice 1 whole lime, sugar to taste, fresh mint garnish... occasionally a splash of mango juice), doubled up in a chilled tiki mug. 4 or so of these is the only way for me to rediscover where all the walls are in my yurt. only idealists believe in decadence. --- "R. Schultz" wrote: > > I was just wondering what everyone's favorite > cocktail is when listening > to the types of music discussed on this list? ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obit] Amalia Mendoza Date: 13 Jun 2001 13:25:43 -0400 MEXICO CITY (AP) -- Amalia Mendoza, one of Mexico's most famous singers of mariachi and ranchera music, died Monday after suffering from a progressive paralysis of the lungs. She was 78. Mendoza was famous for songs such as ``Echame a mi la Culpa'' (``Put the Blame on Me'') and ``Amarga Navidad'' (``Bitter Christmas''). Born in the town of San Juan Huetamo in 1923, she was part of a family of noted musicians. http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=B4mknu3x5an8k http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Amalia+Mendoza%22 Ranchera music is a kind of Mexican country music that overlaps with Mariachi music. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hep Cat Subject: (exotica) re: favorite cocktail? Date: 13 Jun 2001 10:34:47 -0700 (PDT) I have 2 simple yet amazing creations to my name. The Raspberry Sunset: 1/2 Cranberry Juice 1/2 Stoli Raspberry Vodka Splash of Sweet & Sour Mix Shake with ice. Strain into your best martini glass. The Tikitini: 1/2 Pineapple Juice 1/2 Absolut Citron Splash of Sweet & Sour Mix Shake with ice. Strain into your second best martini glass. -Ford _____________________________________________________________ Enjoy the hip cats and magical martinis at the world's most famous martini bar, Chatini! http://www.chatini.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Johnny Coco and Poncie Ponce Date: 13 Jun 2001 11:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Anyone have any information on/feelings about Johnny Coco? I have his The Exotic Sounds of the Hawaii Kai, which is a fine addition to an exotica collection (and soundtrack to mai tai blackout)- a mix of vocals and instrumentals blending "cocktail jazz" in the style of Martin Denny with traditional Hawaiian music & instruments. Adventures in Paradise is a standout track with its hypnotic melody, subdued bongos and wordless female vocals. Another bit of ersatz Hawaiiana quite differnt from Johnny Coco is Poncie Ponce's solo lp (he was the hackey from Hawaiian Eye). Wonderful camp-exotic vocals (some even sung without the stereotyped Japanese accent)- a great cover with Poncie standing in front of some soert of tiki bar festooned with the lp covers from other exotica lps. ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) re: favorite cocktail? Date: 13 Jun 2001 14:14:03 -0400 Well, I'm on the suffering bastard in my ongoing repertoire of mixed = drinks, so will throw in this recipe: 4 oz. ginger ale 1 oz. whiskey 1 oz. gin 1 oz. lime juice dash of bitters (Hint: for lime juice you can use canned lime concentrate right outta the = can). Stir all together and add ice - serve in large old-fashioned glass. This isn't as sickeningly sweet as some mixed drinks. - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: Re: (exotica) re: favorite cocktail? Date: 13 Jun 2001 14:18:46 -0400 That's a good one. One of the problems I find is that a lot of people don't like the taste of alcohol, so alot of the cocktails are filled with sweets and fruit juices that mask the taste of the alcohol. And that bugs me. I like a really crisp tasting drink and this sounds right up my alley. Thanks for the tip... Randy > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:14:03 -0400 "Nathan Miner" > writes: > > > > Well, I'm on the suffering bastard in my ongoing repertoire of > mixed > > drinks, so will throw in this recipe: > > > > 4 oz. ginger ale > > 1 oz. whiskey > > 1 oz. gin > > 1 oz. lime juice > > dash of bitters > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) favorite cocktail? Date: 13 Jun 2001 14:32:36 EDT In a message dated 6/13/1 12:04:06 PM, sophisticatedsavage@yahoo.com wrote: >Hands down, it's the mai tai for me I have to admit a fondness for The Stardust, but I have to get Br Cleve over to make them.......Perhaps he'll share the recipe JB/They always question my drinking, but never ask of my thirst # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) Perry Como article from today's NYTimes Date: 13 Jun 2001 14:40:32 -0400 June 13, 2001 CRITIC'S NOTEBOOK A Posthumous Hit Parade for Ever-Serene Perry Como By STEPHEN HOLDEN Tranquillity is one musical quality that has earned scant critical respect in the annals of American pop. For decades, terms like Muzak and elevator music have been affixed contemptuously to sounds deemed too soft and complacent to be taken seriously in a culture obsessed with upward mobility and the grinding friction it produces. When the fledgling record industry nearly collapsed during the Depression, it wasn't the soothing voices of crooners like Rudy Vallee and Russ Columbo that revived it but the jittery pulse of swing. The behemoth of today's multibillion-dollar record industry didn't evolve from the chirpy, smiley pop of the Mitch Miller era but from the upstart rock 'n' roll that overran it. Musical calm prevailed only during the decade that began with the end of World War II and faded with the wake-up call of "Rock Around the Clock." Those years, during which millions of Americans settled in suburbs to nest, coincided with Miller's ascendancy as the creative head of Columbia Records and with the reign of Perry Como at the rival RCA Victor as American pop's soft-spoken Mr. Nice Guy. No one before or since the heyday of Como, whose death in May at 88 deprived American pop of its last genuinely serene voice, made an easygoing contentment appear to be everyone's natural birthright. The vocal embodiment of carefree fairway Saturdays in the stretched-out sleepy summer of Eisenhower's America, the singer and television personality whose theme song gently invited the world to "Dream along with me," Como distilled the sunny side of those not-so- fabulous 1950's. To commemorate his death, Collectables Records, one of the country's largest independent reissue companies with a catalog of more than 1,500 titles, recently released 10 of Como's RCA Victor albums and one extended-play compilation for the first time on CD. They can be ordered online at www.oldies.com. Como was not quite a great singer. His crooning lacked the jazz underpinnings and richness of his principal role model, Bing Crosby. He conveyed none of Frank Sinatra's volatile sexuality, swinging adventurousness or complicated personal involvement with his material. The reptilian and insinuating Dean Martin exuded far more personality than Como. But at the peak of his popularity in the mid-1950's, Como was a cultural deity, trusted by millions, and radiated the same quiet dignity as that other Italian-American symbol of heroic achievement ennobled by modesty, Joe DiMaggio. Strolling out onto the television soundstage on a Saturday night, clad in a sport shirt and sweater vest, this onetime barber conveyed the even-tempered affability of a man utterly secure in his identity and talent and remarkably unspoiled by fame. Como's aura of being completely at home in the world was leavened with a playful, easily tickled sense of humor. Detached but not cold, he suggested that the difference between being a small-town barber and a wealthy pop star was simply a matter of luck and that he would be equally happy in either role. Much like Crosby, Como was neither a connoisseur of great songs nor a psychologically probing interpreter of lyrics. Although he could push his smooth baritone voice up to medium volume, his crooning never aspired toward the operatic. In the same way that he stood back and took an amused pleasure in his celebrity, Como seemed never to question that a song needed only his appealingly mild-mannered vocal signature to put it over. If his phrasing was actually quite formal, his understatement made him seem the king of casual. Like most pop stars of that era, Como recorded the catchy commercial fluff chosen by his label. His first No. 1 hit, "Till the End of Time," in 1945, was a bland pop adaptation of Chopin's Polonaise in A flat major. His second, the next year, was a tortured stentorian ballad, "Prisoner of Love" (originally a hit for Columbo), whose masochism Como undercut by softening its confession of romantic enslavement into a declaration of dignified, unshakable devotion. No matter what the ballad, the common denominator of Como's crooning was his quietly authoritative assertion of this devotion, the seemingly matter-of-fact commitment of an eternally and happily married man. When a lyric like that for his 1953 Rodgers and Hammerstein-penned hit, "No Other Love," happened to match his vocal personality, the result could be quite eloquent. When novelties regularly topped the pop charts, Como recorded more than his share, beginning with the faintly racy "Dig You Later (A Hubba-Hubba-Hubba)" and continuing with "Chi-Baba, Chi-Baba (My Bambina Go to Sleep)," "Bibbidi-Bobbidi- Boo" and "Hoop-De-Doo." The silliness culminated in the mid-1950's with "Papa Loves Mambo," "Ko Ko Mo" and "Hot Diggity." Many of Como's biggest 50's hits, including "Wanted," "Round and Round" and "Catch a Falling Star," were childlike ditties that didn't really qualify as outright novelties. In his respectful, irony-free embrace of a playful pop simplicity, Como anticipated pop's ultimate nice guy of the rock era, Paul McCartney. Content to ride a stream of hit singles up the pop charts, Como never aspired to be a serious album artist. Although he recorded numerous LP's, they generally lacked the cohesiveness, sophistication and brilliant arrangements of Sinatra's and Nat (King) Cole's finest work. Like Patti Page, his female counterpart in the 50's pop pantheon, Como stood for cultural homogenization. In much the same way that Ms. Page, who was born in Oklahoma, all but erased the regional twang from country music and helped make country a national style, Como played down the ethnic attributes of Italian ballad singing, replacing a Mediterranean passion with a neighborly all-American bonhomie. Like his Italian-American pop peers, however, from time to time he would acknowledge his roots by recording an Italian song. It is easy enough in today's climate of strident identity politics and niche markets to condemn as naïve and even vaguely fascistic the bland assimilative pop culture that Como, Ms. Page and other mainstream pop singers symbolized. But in the 1950's, the promulgation of such a culture seemed like the most natural and practical way to heal the wounds of war, embrace the returning armed forces, welcome immigrants and create a proudly unified front against the threat of Communism. As that artificial cultural ideal crumbled in the 60's and a do-your-own-thing ethos refuted the previous decade's conformist values, tranquillity was out and speed was in. Rock's highly amplified technology quickly rendered Como's brand of crooning obsolete. American pop's last truly calm voice found himself shouted out of the arena. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Canadians are foreigners? Date: 13 Jun 2001 12:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Here's the page you locals (?) will wish to check whenever they get around to updating it: http://www.nga.gov/programs/film.htm --- alan zweig wrote: > I don't know the times or the exact circumstances. > I guess you'll have to > do a little phoning or maybe it's on a website > but... > The film "Vinyl" will be screening at the National > Gallery of Art in > Washington D.C. on July 21. ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lenkei Subject: Re: (exotica) Elevator fever Date: 13 Jun 2001 16:44:52 -0400 (EDT) I, too, started my EZ collection with Command stuff. For a newcomer it was easy to spot in the bins, and it was also cheap and plentiful at the record stores. I suppose if I had less space for records, I'd prune a bit, but I just can't help picking up almost any Command album I find. Although I pretty much know what it's going to sound like, I still get a kick out of them. And even after all this time, I still think that Persuasive Percussion Vol. 2 is one of my favorite albums. - bruce ++++++++++++++++++++ Lenkei Design www.lenkeidesign.com ++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit The Exotica Review As many exotica/lounge record reviews as possible! on the web at: www.bway.net/~er ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, alan zweig wrote: > > I started this journey with Enoch Light and Command. At first that sound > and those covers, were what drove me. I "collected" them. I dreamed of > getting all of them. I loved having all four volumes of Persuasive and > Provocative. > Then the fever broke, so to speak. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Elevator fever Date: 13 Jun 2001 13:53:28 -0700 (PDT) And, as was mentioned, they sound great (even if samey). I purged mine over to friend's place who loves them just for that Command label sound (and he in turn feeds me the rockabilly 45s he occasionally stumbles across in his back and forthing between Cleveland and Arlington, VA. Another starter staple was Ferrante and Teicher. Brutal purging there. Even got rid of most of the Denny/Lyman/baxter dupes I'd picked up (thinking I might resell, but mainly because I did not want to leave them behind to encourage hungry interlopers. Yes, I know. Small and sad. But I suppose it's no so bad as avoiding sidewalk cracks or washing my hands every 5 minutes). --- Bruce Lenkei wrote: > I, too, started my EZ collection with Command stuff. > For a newcomer it was > easy to spot in the bins, and it was also cheap and > plentiful at the > record stores. I suppose if I had less space for > records, I'd prune a bit, > but I just can't help picking up almost any Command > album I find. Although > I pretty much know what it's going to sound like, I > still get a kick out > of them. And even after all this time, I still think > that Persuasive > Percussion Vol. 2 is one of my favorite albums. ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) cool is better than numb Date: 13 Jun 2001 17:57:58 -0400 Did anyone happen to read or, better yet, save this recent article from the NYTimes. It discussed the use of herbs in refreshing alcoholic beverages suitable for the summer season. Unfortunately the article is no longer available for free at the NYTimes website. I'd like to concoct some of the recommended libations, but don't have the recipes. Cheers, lousmith@pipeline.com May 23, 2001, Wednesday SIPS; Cool Is Better Than Numb By AMANDA HESSER Source: The New York Times Section: Dining In, Dining Out/Style Desk Lead Paragraph: IT was a mildly warm afternoon, one of the last before we drop off into the three-month inferno. I was sitting at the bar at Pastis, and ordered a Sazerac. The barman muddled wedges of lemon with pink Peychaud bitters and sugar. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) favorite cocktail? Date: 13 Jun 2001 18:26:47 -0400 on 6/13/01 2:32 PM, DJJimmyBee@aol.com at DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > I have to admit a fondness for The Stardust, but I have to get Br Cleve over > to make them.......Perhaps he'll share the recipe 2 parts light rum 1 part lemon juice 1 part Parfair Amour shake with ice and strain into cocktail glass. garnish with a lemon twist. sadly, Parfait Amour is very very difficult to find (unless you live in France). It is made by Marie Brizzard. Beg at your local packy. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) favorite cocktail? Date: 13 Jun 2001 18:29:03 -0400 on 6/13/01 6:26 PM, Br. Cleve at brcleve@mindspring.com wrote: The Stardust > 2 parts light rum > 1 part lemon juice > 1 part Parfair Amour that should read Parfait Amour so much for proofreading, eh bc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) parfait amor Date: 13 Jun 2001 19:25:56 -0400 I found this recipe for do-it-yourself Parfait Amor. It won't be the same as Bols or Marie Brizzard, but what are you gonna do? This recipe doesn't mention the purple vegetable dye - for the proper effect I think you'd want to mix some in. The recipe also doesn't seem "citrusy" enough - if I tried doing this, I'd add a bit more. lousmith@pipeline.com Parfait Amour A French Aphrodisiac Liqueur Ingredients 6 in. cinnamon stick 1 tbsp. fresh thyme 1/4 vanilla bean 1 tsp coriander seed 1/2 tsp mace, powdered or crushed dehydrated peel of 1 small lemon 2 1/4 cups of vodka, or your favourite spirit 225g good honey (heather, acacia or 'mountain') 1 1/4 cups water Crush the dry ingredients in a mortar and pestle or a spice grinder as finely as possible and add to the vodka. Leave for 15 days (you might wanna shake it now and then) and filter. Dissolve the honey in the water over gentle heat. Allow to cool and mix with the spiced spirits. Bottle and label. Recommended dose : 2 fl. oz. before bed "Br. Cleve" wrote: > sadly, Parfait Amour is very very difficult to find (unless you live in France). It is made by Marie Brizzard. Beg at your local packy. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@attglobal.net Subject: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems Date: 13 Jun 2001 19:28:43 -0400 A rather interesting article was in today's Washington Post, about the high end audiphile lovers - the type of people who spend $140,000 on their stereo systems. http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58447-2001Jun12.html Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: (exotica) favorite cocktail? Date: 13 Jun 2001 20:22:20 EDT I generally favor a tall vodka tonic with fresh limes. On the tropical side I have experimented with Beachbum Barry's Grog Log and some of those recipes are fantastic if labor intensive. But some of the most delicious drinks I've ever had. (I highly recommend using fresh pineapple with the recipes where pineapple is called for.) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) favorite cocktail? Date: 13 Jun 2001 21:29:12 -0400 It's available in Quebec (of course), although the SAQ catalogue lists it as being from Holland. Go figure...but it's around $19 CDN (around $12 US), and readily available... cheryl > > sadly, Parfait Amour is very very difficult to find (unless you live in > France). It is made by Marie Brizzard. Beg at your local packy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) favorite cocktail? Date: 13 Jun 2001 23:06:04 -0700 "R. Schultz" wrote: > > I was just wondering what everyone's favorite cocktail is when listening > to the types of music discussed on this list? Mai Tai Blue Hawaiian Pina Colada Zombie Planter's Punch Cuba Libre Lava Flow and a thousand others, as long as they have rum! -Kevin -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) Elevator fever Date: 14 Jun 2001 10:45:23 +0100 Talking of binging and purging, I've just cleared out a load of records onto the well-known auction site that seems to obsess us all. It felt good to give up records like Electric Tommy and Ye Olde Moog - LPs that I bought when I was buying moog records - with the result that I have cleared the crap from my collection leaving it saturated with more gems and less turds (there's a word I haven't used in years). Having said that, the 80 or so records I've listed may not sell but I live in hope. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 14 Jun 2001 09:10:03 -0500 Sorry to see you leave, I read your posts, but on this list I ask the questions and have little or no answers. I tend to lurk a lot (and learn). And sometime I make a statment or question and it falls flat...nothing. But I'm sure that makes up for the time I meant to reply, but forgot. This is a big list. So sorry to see you leave. Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: RE: (exotica) Schifrin - Piano, strings.../Wanderley Date: 14 Jun 2001 22:17:10 +0800 >And has anyone got or heard Gone with the Wave? Is it a surf soundtrack or just a Lalo LP? I have this. It's a surf soundtrack, but it doesn't sound like any of the other Lalo soundtracks I own. It's very pleasant, but for some reason doesn't really have the kind of 'bite' that a lot of his other stuff has. It's relatively early (62 or 63, i think), and on the colpix label. I made a CD of the album, and I remember when I used Napster, people used to feverishly queue up to download a track from this album called 'breaks bossa nova'. They obviously figured that this would be a perfect combination of Schifrin, breakbeats and bossa. I think they were probably disappointed though - breaks refers to the surfers' waves, and the song is a pleasant but rather tame bossa. Most of the album is laid back, small combo jazz, with some nice guitar work. Pleasant, but probably not worth paying what people are likely to charge for it. jonny www.psychedelicado.com -- tell us about your favorite songs! http://musicaltaste.net _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.lycosmail.com Powered by Outblaze # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: (exotica) And talking of Lalo.... Date: 14 Jun 2001 15:37:39 +0100 On the Motor released LP best of Lalo Schifrin is a piece of real fast chase sequence music from Dirty Harry that comes from a 45. Anybody know this 45? What's on the other side? Where do I find one? What's it called? And..... Bullitt Murderers Row Dirty Harry (original and recent reissue double vinyl) Mission Impossible More Mission Impossible Enter the Dragon Mannix Am I missing any other quality soundtrack moments by him? I know that Medical Centre and other Themes isn't bad and I hear he did Ironside which I think I've seen somewhere. Che, RollerCoaster, Cincinnati Kid, etc etc aren't worth bothering with in the funky soundtrack stakes so does anyone have suggestions for more Lalo goodies? Cheers all. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: (exotica) Ramsey/Richard Evans/Charles Stepney Date: 14 Jun 2001 22:41:40 +0800 Alan wrote: >Yes but first let me ask you is that the Ramsey Lewis with the alternating >colored squares on the cover? No, 'mother nature's son' has a cute photograph of Ramsey, decked out in trendy late 60s gear, sat at the piano, surrounded by rabbits, animals, moss and trees. Aside from the 'Wade in the Water' and other late 60s stuff people are enthusing about, I was surprised at how much I enjoyed the early (56-59) jazz combo records I have, 'swingin' and 'down to earth'. I never normally get into this kind of record, but the sound and performances were great, with a very cool deep bass sound. Both 'Mother nature's son' and 'Another Voyage' feature Charles Stepney as arranger/conductor; whether this is instead of or as well as Richard Evans, I'm not sure, but does anyone know anything else about Mr Stepney? I don't know much about Richard Evans except that a) there is a picture of him on the back of one of my LPs, and he does indeed appear to be black and b) I remember reading an article about 'Afro Harping' on Luxuriamusic.com which revealed that the Millionnaire (spinning tonight at Bar d'O in NYC, incidentally) was once taught by him (although apparently he didn't realize how cool he was then) jonny www.psychedelicado.com PS. sign of the times: I was able to pick up Esquivel's 'exploring new sounds'/'strings aflame' cd yesterday used for just $6.99. It still sounds great- not as exciting as it did a few years ago, but great. -- tell us about your favorite songs! http://musicaltaste.net _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.lycosmail.com Powered by Outblaze # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) See It In Sound Date: 14 Jun 2001 07:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Just received Esquivel, See It In Sound from Amazon. Fandamntastic! Wonderful crisp livingsterophonic sound. Totally quashed from release in 1960 (this from my brief skim of the microscopic liner notes) becuase it was too "weird". It's like Esquivel meets Martin Denny (of the water splashing & bird shrieks era)and Dean Elliot. Great stuff. Can't say the same for the Chees "2 for 1" CD release of Howling Wolf's 1st 2 lps. The sound is artificial (almost like those "simulated stereo lps)and the songs are clipped off prematurely - likely to conserve space (one song deleted to fit the 2 lps on the disc). But it was worth it for his version of "Wang Dang Doodle", which gotta be my favorite song. Sorry for the non-exotic tangent. ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits] Vince Charles, Marcelo Fromer, Ralph A. Miller Date: 14 Jun 2001 10:54:53 -0400 Vince Charles LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Vince Charles, a Caribbean-born steel drummer who performed with both Neil Diamond and Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass, died June 3. He was 55. Charles played what he called ``Caribbean contemporary,'' a mix of jazz, reggae and calypso. He was born on the island of St. Kitts and grew up in the Virgin Islands. He was introduced to the steel drums by his musician brother, Valentine and went on to master the instrument, which is made from 55-gallon oil drums and can produce dozens of tones. His professional career spanned nearly four decades and included appearances at the New York World's Fair in 1964-65 and Canada's Montreal Expo in 1967. After moving to Los Angeles, he went to work for Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass. After an appearance on Diamond's 1973 ``Serenade'' album he became a regular member of the singer's band three years later. He also performed with his own group, Vince Charles and Friends, and recorded three albums, ``Mixture 44,'' ``Soliloquy'' and ``Caribbean Christmas.'' Marcelo Fromer SAO PAULO, Brazil (AP) -- Marcelo Fromer, the lead guitarist for the pioneering Brazilian rock group Titas, died Wednesday from injuries he suffered in a hit-and-run accident. He was 39. Doctors at Sao Paulo's Hospital das Clinicas declared him brain dead and removed his life support equipment. Fromer was hit by a motorcycle while he was jogging. Doctors said he had massive head injuries. Fromer is a founding member of Titas, which was hugely popular in the 1980s. The band appealed to a generation exploring new freedoms after more than two decades of military dictatorship. The band's hits included ``Lugar Nenhum,'' ``Comida,'' ``Desordem'' and ``Homen Pirata.'' Fromer was also a gourmet cook and he worked periodically as a food columnist for the Estado de Sao Paulo newspaper. He also wrote a cookbook titled, ``What Are You Hungry For?'' Ralph A. Miller ORMOND BEACH, Fla. (AP) -- Ralph A. Miller, a research chemist who helped bring the world Spaghetti-Os and Chunky Soup, died Saturday after a long illness. He was 73 and suffered from heart problems. Miller also helped develop Prego spaghetti sauce as a chemist at Campbell's Soup Co. He retired from Campbell's in 1991 as vice president of product research and development after 41 years with the Camden, N.J.-based company. Miller was instrumental in developing some of the company's most popular products. The company introduced Spaghetti-Os in 1965, the Chunky Soup brand in 1970 and Prego in 1981. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) favorite cocktail? Date: 14 Jun 2001 16:09:28 I generally go for a Marguerita, though there is only one bar in Dublin (to the best of my extensive knowledge) that serves a genuinely good one. So i have a party instead. I suppose one shouldn't call it a martini (not gin for a start) but... 1 Bottle of decent vodka about 6 raspberries mash the raspberries up, shake your bottle a few times and leave for a week or two. Chill the bottle prior to serving to around minus 10. Serve in chilled shot glasses with lime squeezed on the rim. rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: (exotica) Ritual of the Savage Date: 14 Jun 2001 09:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Finally found a spanking clean crisp copy of this lp at the most godforsaken thrift shop this afternoon. if anyone wants my other copy, send your address. The cover is in decent shape, but the vinyl is a little rough (no skips, but plenty of his) ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems Date: 14 Jun 2001 13:31:26 -0400 >A rather interesting article was in today's Washington Post, about the >high end audiphile lovers - the type of people who spend $140,000 on >their stereo systems. > >http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58447-2001Jun12.html Thanks. Entertaining. Too bad it missed the DIY scene altogether, but I suppose that wouldn't have fit into the 'crazy boys blowing money on expensive toys' theme. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems Date: 14 Jun 2001 18:48:36 +0100 "m.ace" wrote: > > >A rather interesting article was in today's Washington Post, about the > >high end audiphile lovers - the type of people who spend $140,000 on > >their stereo systems. > > > >http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58447-2001Jun12.html > > Thanks. Entertaining. Too bad it missed the DIY scene altogether, but I > suppose that wouldn't have fit into the 'crazy boys blowing money on > expensive toys' theme. Talking of both high-end audio and DIY, I've been reading and enjoying the articles of 'Dr Hifi': http://www.1388.com/doctor/jonopinion/index.html The article 'Joseph Luk has a New System!' ( http://www.1388.com/doctor/jonopinion/17042001/17042001.html ) is particularly funny. There's something about his writing that makes it enjoyable, and not just in a 'look at the mad hi-fi buffs' or a 'laugh at foreigners' bad English' way (though I guess there are some elements of both). I love the way he just delves straight in with a soldering iron. Personally, I get a kick out of the fact that the cable connecting my tuner to the amp cost more than the seven quid (Ebay) tuner... -- "Joseph Luk must be a very happy man indeed. (According to Joe Lee, Luk’s tears roll when he listens to HiFi now). Luk could not believe the results, but his ears told him it was true!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ronnie edgar" Subject: Fw: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 14 Jun 2001 20:42:26 +0100 Yeh I post regularly too, and often get fucked by the clique, the only way to generate a conversation about some thing other than the umbrellas of cherbourg or other such shit is to post an offensive comment. So you gonna terminate me or what Lazlo. Regards Shabba > I've been a member of this list for over 4 years. > I've posted many times and received, I believe 3 responses to my many > posts. >> >> I don't know what the deal is, but it is in a small disheartening to say # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: Fw: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 14 Jun 2001 13:19:50 -0700 (PDT) There's a clique? And here I thought we were a collection of isolated geeks talking about elevator music. Have a quaalude. We don't really get anywhere with these "I quit" bruised ego whinges, do we? Because it all boils down to who cares. --- ronnie edgar wrote: > Yeh I post regularly too, and often get fucked by > the clique, the only way > to generate a conversation about some thing other > than the umbrellas of > cherbourg or other such shit is to post an > offensive comment. > > So you gonna terminate me or what Lazlo. > > Regards > > Shabba ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew J. Marchese" Subject: Re: Fw: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 14 Jun 2001 15:33:28 -0500 I think that by definition, a mailing list exclusively devoted to the discussion of a certain genre of music qualifies as a clique. However, I don't think that people on this list have defined Exotica very narrowly at all. I'm very pleased by the variety of discussions that pop up here that *aren't* devoted to elevator music. I've been posting to a Usenet newsgroup for over 10 years. Even though I know a lot of the people there personally, they still ignore me for long stretches and seldom respond to me unless it's criticism of something I've said that rubs someone the wrong way. It used to bug me because I have an overriding need to feel loved and adored by everybody, doncha know. But one day I realized that these people collectively weren't part of my tribe after all, and I decided to simply be grateful for the few really good friends I had made there and I let the rest go jump into a goddamn virtual volcano. And in case you hadn't noticed, Lazlo has left the building. Matt Ben Waugh wrote: > > There's a clique? And here I thought we were a > collection of isolated geeks talking about elevator > music. Have a quaalude. > > We don't really get anywhere with these "I quit" > bruised ego whinges, do we? Because it all boils down > to who cares. > > --- ronnie edgar wrote: > > > Yeh I post regularly too, and often get fucked by > > the clique, the only way > > to generate a conversation about some thing other > > than the umbrellas of > > cherbourg or other such shit is to post an > > offensive comment. > > > > So you gonna terminate me or what Lazlo. > > > > Regards > > > > Shabba > > ===== > "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." > > - Jack Nance # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. Schultz" Subject: Re: Fw: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 14 Jun 2001 16:36:47 -0400 New here so maybe I shouldn't talk but I think these issues could be brought up earlier --and more constructively -- without this "screw you, you're stuck up. I quit" stuff. Besides, I just joined this list and I have found this to be a very friendly group, very open to my softball, newbie questions. I'd skip the quaalude and have a martini by the way. Much more enjoyable and looks cooler. On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Ben Waugh writes: > > There's a clique? And here I thought we were a > collection of isolated geeks talking about elevator > music. Have a quaalude. > > We don't really get anywhere with these "I quit" > bruised ego whinges, do we? Because it all boils down > to who cares. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: Re: (exotica) what Dj types play live Date: 14 Jun 2001 22:46:20 +0200 (MEST) let’s not forget the Karminskys. There DJing is maybe the most close of em all to there own work. If you like there recordings or there comps, than you would not be disappointed by there DJ gigs. For me a lot of the new music that goes under “modern lounge beat” or whatever, has not enough of the sensibility or quality that I need to really love it ( that I know from mostly 60s jazz, funk, soul, beat, punk, psych, rocksteady, easy, latin, brasil, surf, 50s/60s exotica, sabpm etc.). The best new stuff at the time for me is the fantastic (now I call it) Neo Brasil Sound like Conte and other schema Artists. Even from the nu-jazz scene comes fantastic neo Brasil stuff, just when the (for me mostly boring) 70s fusion jazz influences (with slap bass or endless boring solos) is not the dominant part. (I also like a lot house and techno music, but the more I know of the NON 4/4 world, the less I am interested in the 4/4 world. With house it is also a problem that there is so much crap around, and for most people, who think they like house, it is enough when they hear a loud bass drum. So It became very difficult so hear good house music at a party here. Maybe because to less people care about it, and it is more easy to make money with crap than with quality) just my two Pfennig (still) Martin >>> on 6/13/01 1:36 AM, alan zweig at azed@pathcom.com wrote: > So if I have it right, what you're saying is "It's true that their DJ sets > sound virtually nothing like their records". In many cases, yes. I did a gig with Ursula 1000 a couple of weeks ago, and he played none of his own recordings; he told me that most of the loungecore/breakbeat dj's, such as Skeewif or Resident Filters, play none of their tracks and instead play much harder club music (Ursula, for example, played lots of disco/breaks and samba house). Konishi from Pizzacato 5 played in NYC recently, and his entire set was pretty much gabba (the super sped up techno out of Benelux countries). Kruder & Dorfmeister in NYC played mostly batucada and samba house tracks. Most of these dj's are concerned with the dancefloor, especially if their own music is not as geared toward it. > I might > call it "clubpop" if I knew what that meant. clubpop is the term used for a lot of the music from Japan (as well as Germany) of the last decade - Pizzacato 5, Cornelius, Maxwell Implosion, Kahimi Karie, Towa Tei, et al. > I also don't have a word for the one Love Lee record I have - "Just call me > Lone Lee" but I definitely wouldn't use the words "skool" or "hip hop". yes, his set was nothing like his records. It was very "roots" based - that is, 80's hip hop, from whence the vast majority of new music comes from these days. > So am I misunderstanding or is it true that there is virtually no > relationship between their recording lives and their DJ'ing lives? It depends on the DJ, really. I worked with Nicola Conte over the weekend, and his sets are very much like his own records (which he plays) - lots of brazillian and nu jazz sounds which packed the dancefloor. Thievery Corporation play lots of their own music along with similar styles. Big name dance stars like Basement Jaxx, Fatboy Slim etc play their own stuff, including many dubplates of different, unreleased mixes. I think the majority play stuff that at least resembles their own music stylistically, if not at least one or two of their own records. br cleve -- visit the ***Space Escapade*** Exotic Club Pop Entertainment with Guests and the Lemon Squeezer Sound System at the Atomic Cafe, Neuturmstr. 5, Munich, every Tuesday Night http://www.atomic.de/ GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net -- GMX Tipp: Machen Sie Ihr Hobby zu Geld bei unserem Partner 1&1! http://profiseller.de/info/index.php3?ac=OM.PS.PS003K00596T0409a # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: Fw: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 14 Jun 2001 18:32:26 -0400 At 01:19 PM 6/14/01 -0700, Ben Waugh wrote: > >There's a clique? And here I thought we were a >collection of isolated geeks talking about elevator >music. Have a quaalude. There is a clique. We meet in our dreams. And when we meet, we talk exclusively about ronnie and how immature his posts are. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ronnie edgar" Subject: Re: Fw: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 14 Jun 2001 23:47:13 +0100 Touch=E9 Mr Zweig are you really the alpha and the omega # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) what Dj types play live Date: 14 Jun 2001 20:50:40 -0400 Okay, rub it in...they haven't played North America that I know of - if there's anyone I'd go to see DJ, it would be the Karminskys. Some day if I'm really lucky... cheryl > let's not forget the Karminskys. There DJing is maybe the most close of em > all to there own work. If you like there recordings or there comps, than you > would not be disappointed by there DJ gigs. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: Fw: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 14 Jun 2001 20:52:06 -0400 Gee, Alan, from what you've said about your dreams, I didn't think anyone was talking... cheryl > There is a clique. We meet in our dreams. > > And when we meet, we talk exclusively about ronnie and how immature his > posts are. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) what Dj types play live Date: 14 Jun 2001 21:13:30 -0400 on 6/14/01 8:50 PM, cheryl at cheryls@dsuper.net wrote: > > Okay, rub it in...they haven't played North America that I know of - if > there's anyone I'd go to see DJ, it would be the Karminskys. Some day if > I'm really lucky... I saw them the other night - they play on Monday nights at Point 101 (right next to Tottenham Court Rd tube stop) in London's west end. A groovy cocktail spot with all glass exterior, and interior filled with Eames coffee tables and molded plywood chairs. Nice! The Karminskys sound is funky now sound, and it knows no limits - - a record from last week will be played after a record from 30 years ago, as long as it has funky beats. Sometimes they beat match, sometimes they don't, and it doesn't seem to matter. It's mostly a spot for drinking, but there were people dancing (this ain't NYC with its antiquated caberet laws!), including some Gentle People and Combustible types. A decent cocktail menu, although there were no absinthe cocktails. Their album will be released this fall - by them - and they hope to make it to North America around that time. In the meantime, the have a new remix of Nicola Conte out on Schema and it's pretty groovy. Only 500 pressed, so grab it now. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: (exotica) Popnouveau and Remixes Date: 14 Jun 2001 22:20:22 -0400 It's nice that were talking about this popnouveau/ remix and DJing. All still a mystery to me and wonderful sounding stuff. The "Morricone RMX" is a fabulous disk in this popnouveau style. Some nice Bossa type tracks. Fantastic Plastic Machine has a selection on it. Techno and wordless vocals. It's all great. DePhazz's "La Lucertola" would have been played to death on Luxuriamusic. Has anyone mentioned the "Fashion TV" compilations? Seems to have been others but only have listened to the 2001 spring-summer collection. The 1st track by "Illumination" a version of "Cry me a River". Track 3 by "Alex Gopher" "The Child (Faze Action White Wall Tea Party Mix). It has a Billie Holiday clip showing up every once in a while. the rest not that good. The remix names are all interesting. Makes you more curious abut the music. Found these disks in the "RPM" section at the station I volunteer at. Would describe RMP as "Hard Core Heavy Metal New Age Music". Or at least the stuff the RPM chick plays. But seems to be related to the popnouveau stuff mentioned here at times. Going thru this section I found the "Electro Lounge" comp. Wonder what other goodies can be found there? Domenic Ciccone "Martinis with Mancini" WJUL 91.5FM Friday's 6-9AM EST http://www.geocities.com/martinimancini/ http://wjul.cs.uml.edu/listen.html (On Real Audio) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) And talking of Lalo.... Date: 15 Jun 2001 00:30:55 -0400 At 03:37 PM 6/14/01 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote: d I hear he did Ironside which I >think I've seen somewhere. Che, RollerCoaster, Cincinnati Kid, etc etc >aren't worth bothering with in the funky soundtrack stakes so does anyone >have suggestions for more Lalo goodies? I love "Whole Lalo Schifrin Goin On". AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems Date: 15 Jun 2001 12:51:50 +0200 It's the type of guys (I can safely say guys only) that usually know zilch about good music. Either they're not interested (some dare to admit it) or they just don't have any budget to actually buy CD's. itsvern@attglobal.net wrote: > A rather interesting article was in today's Washington Post, about the > high end audiphile lovers - the type of people who spend $140,000 on > their stereo systems. > > http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58447-2001Jun12.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Bring yourself a smile this Friday..... Date: 15 Jun 2001 09:38:55 -0400 Go to atrecordings.com and play the track "Running Fast" from Stefano = Torossi's "Feelings" CD. Great stuff - the following track, Being = Friendly is also great - really digging the smooth sounds on a rainy = Friday am...........gotta get this CD!!! Also, finally listened to that wildly illustrated Russian LP with those = psychedelic colors last night. It's strictly "old school" Russian stuff, = most of it very mellow and actually not too bad. The main instrument is a = smallish stringed "guitar" whose name I can't recall right now. Anyway, = in no way is it some kind of psychedelic freak-out ala Russia as I was = hoping but.........I kinda knew it wouldn't be - Alan, you were right. The Private Life of a Private Eye LP by Enoch Light is pretty lame. I = liked the first and third track on Side A only. The Milt Raskin Exotic Percussion LP wasn't so hot through this pair of = ears. It really reminded me a lot of the lesser tracks on CD. = There's predominant harp, not a bird call in the bunch. I liked the = first two tracks on Side A. I'll have to retract my reactions towards "I Want to Be Happy Cha Chas." = This was an early "exposure LP" for me, at a time when ANY of this type of = music was new and exciting. Relistening to this album last night I = realized that I was far into this music now, and getting very "choosy" = over what I deemed "good." There's a heavy organ presence on this album = that's not always used to a good effect. It more often comes off as = "roller rink goofy" if that makes any sense. Now, that can be fun but the = compositions are not "tight" - a common problem with Enoch's albums (but = there *are* exceptions let's not get all testy now!....... :-) Everyone have a great weekend - and Alan, is your documentary available on = VHS yet?!?!!? - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring yourself a smile this Friday..... Date: 15 Jun 2001 06:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Really? I need to whip out Kapu and Exotic Percussion. I had thought they were the same recording. --- Nathan Miner wrote: > The Milt Raskin Exotic Percussion LP wasn't so hot > through this pair of ears. It really reminded me a > lot of the lesser tracks on CD. There's > predominant harp, not a bird call in the bunch. I > liked the first two tracks on Side A. ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring yourself a smile this Friday..... Date: 15 Jun 2001 09:51:15 -0400 Ooooops - I left out a piece of that damn post!!! Milt Raskin reminded me of that VooDoo CD - can't remember the guy's name. = Some of the tracks on there (in the minority) were quiet and "harpy." - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew J. Marchese" Subject: Re: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems Date: 15 Jun 2001 08:57:54 -0500 Not only that, but in my experience these guys are typically middle-aged men who's hearing at the highend is totally shot, so they're spending all of this money to reproduce frequencies that they can't even hear anymore! Of course, when you confront them on this point, they INSIST that they can hear the difference between their old el cheapo tweeters and the $4000 pair that they just got. Speaking of "highend", does anyone recall the Bone Fone? This was a bizarre audio accessory that I recall seeing advertised back in the 70s in the pages of magazines. IIRC, it was a primitive subwoofer that supposedly transmitted subsonic frequencies directly through your skeletal structure. It came with a variety of strange attachments including one that could only be described as some sort of sex toy intended to be inserted where the sun don't shine. Ah, the Seventies... Matt Edward wrote: > > It's the type of guys (I can safely say guys only) that usually know zilch > about good music. Either they're not interested (some dare to admit it) or > they just don't have any budget to actually buy CD's. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: (exotica) Stone Killer - Roy Budd Date: 15 Jun 2001 15:36:57 +0100 Last night I watched The Stone Killer on Channel 5. This is a lame Dirty Harry-esq outing for Charles Bronson with a soundtrack by Roy Budd. It featured the Encounter restaurant at LAX but not a lot else of merit. I've seen the soundtrack for a LOT of money and it was pretty cool - Bullitt-esq with lots of breaks, bass and sparse drumming. It is very similar to his Diamonds (Colpo di Milliardo de Dollari in Italian) soundtrack. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) Stone Killer - Roy Budd Date: 15 Jun 2001 16:04:03 +0100 Fear is the key is an Alistair MacLean US-based thriller about a Brit who escapes from court and tries to prove his innocence. Cars, women and thugs abound. Not as good as Puppet on a Chain or Bear Island - two of my childhood crap but classic 70s films - but not bad. A good-ish jazz soundtrack that is also expensive - a couple of tracks have been on comps in the last few years and the OST has been reissued. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peter's Street, London, N1 8JD Direct: +44 (0) 20 7704 3313 Main: +44 (0) 20 7226 8585 ISDN: +44 (0) 207 359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: (exotica) nyc record sale at ARCHIVE OF CONTEMPORARY MUSIC Date: 15 Jun 2001 23:24:03 +0800 I get the digest of this list, so I'm not sure if this has been posted already, but: A friend forwarded me the info below; if you're in NYC, you might want to check it out. cheers, jonny www.psychedelicado.com THE ARCHIVE OF CONTEMPORARY MUSIC 54 White St., NYC, 10013 we're on the ground floor, 3 blocks south of Canal St, right off Broadway in fashionable Tribeca. Take the A, C, or E trains to Franklin Street or the N&R to Canal St. www.arcmusic.org THE ARCHIVE OF CONTEMPORARY MUSIC invites you to our HEAT RASH Summer Record and CD sale. Sunstroke Saturday June 16, 2001 11 am. to 6 pm. Dad-Day Sun Day June 17, 2001 12 pm. - 5 pm. Our sales are an essential part of our operating budget so come on by and BUY! Admission is free! Over 10,000 items for sale CDs are NEW donations from record companies, NOT used, returns or defects! Most of the recordings for sale are pop & rock. Most LPs are $1 - $3. Collectible LPs are priced below book value. Hundreds of CDs are priced at $1 to $5 each. Just released NEW & HOT CDs are $6 - $10. Videos - most just a buck. NEW cassettes $ 2.00 ea, 12 for $20. Summer Specials Signed LPs such as "Saturday Night Fever" LP signed by John Travolta (one left) Rare & early Beastie Boys releases & singles * Tons of classical LPs from the Jerry Bach collection (author of 'Fiddler on the Roof') * 100s of classic, unopened LPs (Aretha, Troggs, Smiths) * Rare classic rock & psychedelic posters * Incredible African & world-music releases * Vintage punk, new wave & classic rock LPs * Sinatra white label releases o rare & wonderful Soundtracks * tons of music books -- tell us about your favorite songs! http://musicaltaste.net _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.lycosmail.com Powered by Outblaze # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: re: (exotica) Goodbye, Farewell... eh... Date: 15 Jun 2001 16:38:51 +0100 Ronny, Alan was nice when you complimented him last week. And you always post on Friday afternoon, just when I'm going home (well thats when the digests tend to arrive. But its true, people respond to what they want. And if they do reply its to an off the cuff remark rather than the question you (sorry one) ask(s). Thats the thing about other people. Damn awkward curs never doing what you want. enjoy the weekend, its getting sunny again - 4:30, I'm off. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ The Stare Yeh I post regularly too, and often get fucked by the clique, the only way to generate a conversation about some thing other than the umbrellas of cherbourg or other such shit is to post an offensive comment. So you gonna terminate me or what Lazlo. Regards Shabba # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Hall Subject: (exotica) RE: And talking of Lalo.... Date: 15 Jun 2001 12:37:54 -0400 -----Original Message----- From: Charles Moseley > Bullitt Murderers Row Dirty Harry (original and recent reissue double vinyl) Mission Impossible More Mission Impossible Enter the Dragon Mannix Am I missing any other quality soundtrack moments by him? I know that Medical Centre and other Themes isn't bad and I hear he did Ironside which I think I've seen somewhere. Che, RollerCoaster, Cincinnati Kid, etc etc aren't worth bothering with in the funky soundtrack stakes so does anyone have suggestions for more Lalo goodies? Once A Thief - nice versions of Man From T.H.R.U.S.H. & the Cat (tho latter is not as good as the Jimmy Smith vers) + a couple Irene Reid vocals. The Liquidator ost - not great, but an amusing title track w/Shirley Bassey singing such dizzyingly mixed metaphors as "He's an eraser / He'll rub you out like a light / and for a chaser / He'll kiss your woman goodnight" Whole Lotta Shifrin Going On - a sincere & personal attempt at a psychedelic LP; a bit silly here & there, but so are the Beatles, Love, etc...I like this one a lot. The New Continent - actually a Dizzy Gillespie LP, composed & arranged by Schrifrin; sort of large ensemble 3rd streamish in intent, but ends up sounding like Mission Impossible-styled action jazz Gillespiana - another nice Schifrin extended work for Dizzy, reissued by Verve (haven't heard the redone vers with Jon Faddis & the WDR big band). Re-ish paired with Gillespie's Carnegie hall concert, not quite as good, but nice Schiffrin arrangements of Manteca & A Night in Tunisia ("Tunisian Fantasy"). New Continent - versions of The Peanut Vendor + various classical pieces, pretty nice & most of it reissued on the "Talkin' Verve" Schifrin sampler (along with a few movements from the above 2 works). gh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ronnie edgar" Subject: Re: (exotica) And talking of Lalo.... Date: 15 Jun 2001 19:39:14 +0100 Well done again Mr Zweig That truly is a good call, there are some really superb tracks on this LP, but I for one love "How to Open at Will the most Beautiful Window", I think Mr Schifrin had been consuming hallucinogenic love drugs during composition of this LP. The evidence surely lies in the track "Vaccinated Mushrooms" It is not particularly funky, (It has it's moments), but it is very tripped out. If you like, the Dirty Harry track on that LP try and hear the James Taylor Quartet version....... Superb!!! LoVe and Peace Ronnie > AZ Wrote > I love "Whole Lalo Schifrin Goin On". > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) And talking of Lalo.... Date: 15 Jun 2001 15:30:22 EDT In a message dated 6/15/1 1:49:00 PM, ronnie.edgar@lineone.net wrote: >I love "Whole Lalo Schifrin Goin On". as do I....anyone familiar with "Towering Toccata"? Saw it once or twice, think Cleve may have played it years back, but can't recall if its good . It has CTI written all over it and I am hesitant when it comes to CTI...After all it IS the spawner of "Fuzak"...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Hall Subject: (exotica) RE: Ramsey/Richard Evans/Charles Stepney Date: 15 Jun 2001 17:49:49 -0400 "Jonny Perl" wrote: >No, 'mother nature's son' has a cute photograph of Ramsey, decked out in trendy late 60s gear, sat at the piano, surrounded by rabbits, animals, moss and trees. Aside from the 'Wade in the Water' and other late 60s stuff people are enthusing about, I was surprised at how much I enjoyed the early (56-59) jazz combo records I have, 'swingin' and 'down to earth'. I never normally get into this kind of record, but the sound and performances were great, with a very cool deep bass sound. Haven't heard his 50's stuff, but I enjoy his 60's stuff, tho it can get a little samey. not sure if he invented that "having a party in the studio" schtick (overdubbed hands clapping, ambient talk & occasional "yeah!"), but I tend to associate it with him. Another fave in this vein is "Les McCann Plays the Hits" - nice latin-esque Sunshine Superman, a couple vocals (including his first version of "Compared to What"), etc. gh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Lalo.... Liquidator Date: 15 Jun 2001 18:03:31 -0400 >The Liquidator ost - not great, but an amusing title track w/Shirley Bassey >singing such dizzyingly mixed metaphors as "He's an eraser / He'll rub you >out like a light / and for a chaser / He'll kiss your woman goodnight" Coincidentally enough, "The Liquidator" airs on TCM tonight (Friday) at midnight (eastern). m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Huck Subject: (exotica) My new radio show Date: 15 Jun 2001 15:16:01 -0700 Hi there, Some of you know me already but I wanted to introduce myself and announce my new radio show. My name is Jon Huck, I'm one half of the band The Fur Ones and I was a DJ at the now defunct Luxuriamusic.com. I've resurrected my show "Quality Merchandise" at another internet station NWEZ : http://www.nwez.net/. The show is on every Wed. from 3-5 pm PDT with a rerun every Fri. from 10 am.-noon. It's a barrel of laughs, fun for the whole family, and if your on this list, it's probably your kind of music. There is a playlist from last week's show here http://www.monorailrecords.com/qualitymerchandise.html if you need further convincing. Please come by for a listen if you are so inclined and drop into the chat room & say hello if you like. See you then... Jon -- Jon Huck The Fur Ones http://www.mp3.com/thefurones http://monorailrecords.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: Re: (exotica) And talking of Lalo.... Date: 15 Jun 2001 21:23:04 -0700 At 03:37 PM 6/14/01 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote: d I hear he did Ironside which I >think I've seen somewhere. Che, RollerCoaster, Cincinnati Kid, etc etc >aren't worth bothering with in the funky soundtrack stakes so does anyone >have suggestions for more Lalo goodies? > >I love "Whole Lalo Schifrin Goin On". > >AZ I second that suggestion for the above album. I love the Planet of the Apes TV show theme "Ape Shuffle" which you can find on a few comps here and there. The Liquidator has an intriguing Shirley Bassey "Goldfinger" rip-off. Sol Madrid is largely Latin influenced and has a good chase-themed track. I would say those two are good ones if you want to flesh out your Schifrin collection, though agreeably I think Mannix and Mission: Impossible and Enter the Dragon are tops. Mr. Unlucky Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Wages Subject: Re: (exotica) Morricone RMX Date: 16 Jun 2001 01:08:02 -0500 I gave this a disc a listen today and had mixed reactions to it. I like the idea of it, but all of those techno beats wear on me very quickly. And it doesn't help that most of the original Morricone tracks are all-time favorites... I mean on an almost sacred territory level. On the other hand, I really do like what Goldfrapp did with "Invenzione Per John" on the title track of "Felt Mountain." Wasn't there another Morricone remix project in the works? I not so distinctly remember someone mentioning one that was a follow-up to the mondomorricone compilations and was going to have a Gak Sato cut. Domenic Ciccone wrote: > The "Morricone RMX" is a fabulous disk in this popnouveau style. Some nice > Bossa type tracks. > Fantastic Plastic Machine has a selection on it. Techno and wordless vocals. > It's all great. DePhazz's "La Lucertola" would have been played to death on > Luxuriamusic. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems Date: 16 Jun 2001 02:28:11 -0400 At 08:57 AM 6/15/01 -0500, Matthew J. Marchese wrote: > >Not only that, but in my experience these guys are typically middle-aged >men who's hearing at the highend is totally shot, so they're spending >all of this money to reproduce frequencies that they can't even hear >anymore! . I guess it falls to me to defend audiophiles AND middle aged men. It's true that they're not into music the same way WE are. It's true that they often like music just for how "good" it sounds. Then again that does sort of sound like us. Some of us anyway. I certainly like those Stereo Action effects. Or that third channel in the middle with Command's "Dimension Three" records. And though you can certainly make the argument that everything that comes off a record and through your stereo is somehow "music", I do think that at the beginning of my "lounge journey", there were qualities I enjoyed which weren't exactly "musical". I guess I would think that record accumulators/collectors would feel a kinship with audiophiles. We all spend a lot of time with out stereos listening to a lot of things that other people can't quite "hear". Having said this, the one audiophile I interviewed for my film - his tonearm cost ten thousand dollars - played me "Oh What a Lucky Man he was" to demonstrate his system. But later he played this Muddy Waters record that was really raw and sounded beautiful I must say. If I had the money, I guess I'd spend it on records and women and cars and booze but you never know. I hate to see geeks calling other geeks "geeks". AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) more soundtrack questions Date: 16 Jun 2001 02:37:12 -0400 At 03:36 PM 6/15/01 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote: > >Last night I watched The Stone Killer on Channel 5. . I guess I could look this up but last night at a video store I watched a few minutes of the classic "Man with Two Heads". I've seen it a few times but I still can't get over the cheesiness of it all. Anyway the soundtrack was fantastic. Kind of groovy and kind of blaxploitation sounding at the same time. Who did it? Was there a record? And is it on ebay right now? I want it. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: (exotica) pascal comelade & the free design Date: 16 Jun 2001 16:32:36 +0800 hi all, well, today i stumbled upon a bunch of pascal comelade at a shop here i wasn't sure which to get so i just picked up "musiques pour films vol. 2" since with a track called "betty page a-go-go" i figured it couldn't be too bad. plus i really like the other pascal comelade i have. they also had the pascals. for those that don't know this is a japanese band that started out as an all pascal comelade cover band. i'm really happy to have this since it has there wonderful version of "moon river". someone else grabbed the only other copy of the pascals they had(where do these people come from? i'm always surprised by this here...). cheryl, they didn't have your two favourite pascal comelade discs. but they did have the robert wyatt one and the one done with the bel canto orchestra. i will no doubt go back at least for the bel canto orchestra one. now, time for a silly question - is there a difference between the bel canto orchestra and the pop group bel canto? i haven't as yet had the chance to listen to these discs but will shortly. yesterday i picked up "sing for very important people" by the free design. so now i have: one by one heaven/earth stars/time/bubbles/love you could be born again and i have a comp called kites are fun. all of these except for kites are fun are on the japanese label teichiku. am i missing any old cd reissues(of complete albums) aside from "kites are fun" which i believe is out of print(and i think its different than the comp. kites are fun)? william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William" Subject: (exotica) i told you not to cry Date: 16 Jun 2001 16:38:32 +0800 one more thing, i saw this comp by gert wilden & orchestra called "i told you not to cry". does anyone have this? is it worth picking up? william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ronnie edgar" Subject: Re: (exotica) i told you not to cry Date: 16 Jun 2001 13:24:18 +0100 Tis' Okay, but not as good as his Schulmadchen stuff > one more thing, > > i saw this comp by gert wilden & orchestra called "i told you not to > cry". does anyone have this? is it worth picking up? > > william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: (exotica) New CD Burner Date: 16 Jun 2001 10:29:05 EDT Well, I finally broke down and purchased a CD burner. Not for the computer, but for my stereo components. I want to burn from CDs and records in my collection and make compilations for my friends and for myself. I got it about three weeks ago, and have been afraid to hook it up. Isn't that stupid? I even bought the blank CDs, making sure they weren't for the computer. The reason I haven't set it up is the sales people keep telling me I need better cables than the cables that ship with the player. They say that the CD's will burn fine, but if I play them back on the CD burner, they won't sound great. My tuner isn't the newest, so I can't buy the digital cables. But there are cables that I can buy, I guess along the lines of monster cables. Does that sound right to you? Are there people out there who can advise me? Should I just hook it up with the cables that it shipped with and see how it sounds? I don't know why I'm so darn hesitant to hook it up, but I'd better hurry before my warranty runs out. LOL Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew J. Marchese" Subject: Re: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems Date: 16 Jun 2001 10:16:40 -0500 alan zweig wrote: > AI guess it falls to me to defend audiophiles AND middle aged men. Alan, relax. Have a mental Maitai or something. I know how thin-skinned you are about age-related comments, but sheesh, I'm 42, not some young pup dissing the oldsters. It's a well-established medical fact that the highend of the human hearing range starts to roll off precipitously once you reach middle age, my hearing included. Basically, anyone over 40 who says that they can hear frequencies over 14 kHz is probably lying. I work with a fellow who used to be an audio salesman. He has entertained me with many stories over the years about how he bilked audiophiles out of thousands of dollars for equipment when they obviously couldn't tell the difference between a $4000 pair of speakers and a $40 one, at least when it came to high-frequency reproduction. That isn't to say that there aren't other sonic qualities present in expensive stereo components that makes it worthwhile for people to buy them and I never suggested otherwise. I myself purchased a new pair of Wharfdales last year after my 30-year old KLH speakers finally went totally microphonic on me. I did a side-by-side test on the two and I could immediately tell the difference, particularly in how "warm" the sound was from the Wharfdales. OTOH, I bought a new car for my wife last year with a premium sound kit installed that includes separate tweeter domes. Even if I put my ear right up next to them, I usually can't tell if anything's coming out. > I hate to see geeks calling other geeks "geeks". Sorry if my comments got your undies into a twist, but I think you misinterpreted them. Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) New CD Burner Date: 16 Jun 2001 15:55:11 -0400 At 10:29 AM 6/16/01 EDT, Stilgloria@aol.com wrote: > >Well, I finally broke down and purchased a CD burner. Not for the computer, >but for my stereo components. I want to burn from CDs and records in my >collection and make compilations for my friends and for myself. I got it >about three weeks ago, and have been afraid to hook it up. Isn't that stupid? I was afraid to make CD's from vinyl for the first few weeks. So no, it's not stupid. > The reason I haven't set it up is the sales people keep telling me I need better >cables than the cables that ship with the player. They say that the CD's will >burn fine, but if I play them back on the CD burner, they won't sound great. >My tuner isn't the newest, so I can't buy the digital cables. I'm going to assume you bought the kind of "CD recorder" that only has a recorder, not a player. Because it you had the player/recorder, you can go from CD to CD within the machine and cables are a non issue. I think they confused you. Digital cables have nothing to do with your tuner. Nobody uses digital cables with a tuner. A digital cable goes directly from source to recorder without a tuner in between. In other words, if you had a CD player with a "digital out" you'd go from the CD player to the CD recorder and ignore the tuner. But if you want to record vinyl, you can't ignore the tuner. And since vinyl is analog, it obviously doesn't have a "digital out". You have no choice but to go through your tuner. Just hook it up. I'm using the most normal cables. I've burned I won't tell you how many CD's from vinyl. If the record sounds good, the CD is going to sound great. Just pretend it's a tape player. Hit record, let the record spin, hit pause when it's over. Find the next tune. It's exactly the same. There is this "noise" that seems to come from either the tuner or the cables. Or maybe it's the grooves of the record. There's sound there even when the record is between cuts. If someone were to tell me that better RCA cables would eliminate that noise, I wouldn't argue. But it doesn't really bother me. My vinyl-sourced CDR's sound good to me and to others. They don't sound like CD's exactly. And they could be a little "quieter". But they sound at least as good as the original records did and they're a hell of a lot more convenient. Hit record and go! AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems Date: 16 Jun 2001 16:03:05 -0400 At 10:16 AM 6/16/01 -0500, Matthew J. Marchese wrote: >alan zweig wrote: > >> AI guess it falls to me to defend audiophiles AND middle aged men. > >Alan, relax. Have a mental Maitai or something. I know how thin-skinned you are >about age-related comments, but sheesh, I'm 42, not some young pup dissing the >oldsters. I wasn't attacking you, just defending audiophiles. It's not that I'm thinskinned about age, it's that I don't think referencing middle age has anything to do with the subject. Every audiophile I know has been an audiophile since they were kids. They didn't just reinvent themselves at 40 when coincidentally their hearing started to go. They didn't go from a thousand dollar stereo to a hundred thousand dollar one because suddenly they couldn't hear all the frequencies in Keith Emerson's brilliant synthesizer solos. They didn't go from eclectic far ranging tastes to very narrow collections because they got a bit older. They always had 40 Genesis records. If you're talking about bad knees and middle age, you won't hear a peep from me. But audiophile geekiness has got nothing to do with age. And even though I don't like hanging out with them, I'm not sure they're any "worse" than us. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) pascal comelade & the free design Date: 16 Jun 2001 18:28:28 -0400 Yes, there is a very big difference between the Bel Canto Orchestra and the pop group Bel Canto - not to be confused with each other! And the live disc of Pascal with Bel Canto Orch. is one of the best he's done, so it's definitely worth picking up. I'd still pass on the Wyatt, unless you're a diehard Comelade or Wyatt fan (I'm only the former, not the latter...) cheryl > cheryl, they didn't have your two > favourite pascal comelade discs. but they did have the robert wyatt one and > the one done with the bel canto orchestra. i will no doubt go back at least > for the bel canto orchestra one. now, time for a silly question - is there > a difference between the bel canto orchestra and the pop group bel canto? i > haven't as yet had the chance to listen to these discs but will shortly. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) i told you not to cry Date: 16 Jun 2001 18:31:00 -0400 I have to disagree with that - run, don't walk, to get this one! It's a little more crime-jazz like, as opposed to cheesy soft porn (although both are fine in my books) and a must-have. You won't be sorry... cheryl > > i saw this comp by gert wilden & orchestra called "i told you not to > > cry". does anyone have this? is it worth picking up? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PjB Subject: (exotica) greetings/intro Date: 16 Jun 2001 17:30:46 -0700 hi all--- pjb here, and new to the list i am i am. found you guys somewhat circuitously.... i'm a jazz musician of around 20 years standing (actually sitting; i'm a piano player ), and it was a search for fifties jazz sides that led me here. anyway, i have developed only recently a fetish for old vinyl. of course, i grew up with it, but when the dread cd was foisted upon us i abandoned rms vinyl a little *too* willingly, i think. now mind you, i didn't embrace cd technology blindly.... it took me all of 4 years before i made the decision to sell my lps and start collecting cds. it didn't take nearly that long for me to decide that as a medium, cds blow. i won't get into listing the many things about cds that i don't like.... suffice for now to say that i find them to be soulless affairs. and when i started visiting local used record shops and thrift stores last week, i noticed that my frame of mind improved rather dramatically. i'm finding total pleasure in coming home to a stack of new-old records to listen to.... and i augment this listening by researching each record on the web..... there is an astounding amount of data about old records there. i look forward to interacting with list members. i do have a couple of questions.... one, are there many here who lean toward jazz as their main area of interest? is it alright to discuss jazz records? ...and two, can some kind soul hip me to a good web site or two, particularly ones with a jazz slant? i am very interested in researching records in depth.... and finally, anyone know of any mailing lists that deal specifically with 50s and 60s jazz? please don't get the idea that i'm a jazz queer..... i very much enjoy bizarre and unique records of any genre. .02 pjb/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems Date: 16 Jun 2001 19:34:47 -0500 alan zweig wrote: > I wasn't attacking you, just defending audiophiles. Okay, sorry for the misunderstanding. It's just that you and I have been at loggerheads before regarding comments I've made about middle-aged musical performers, so maybe it's me who's being overly sensitive. > But audiophile geekiness has got nothing to do with age. For the most part, I agree with you and I'm not exactly sure how you got the impression that I was trying to equate the two. All I was saying is that most of the audio gearheads that I've met are older men who always seem to be trying to convince me that they can hear every frequency between 20 and 20,000 Hz. One of the instructors that I work with (a guy in his 50s) has a audio system worth about $20k and he once spent almost an hour trying to convince me that he could hear frequencies up to 25 kHz, which is highly unlikely. I teach installation and maintenance classes for digital audio systems that are used by TV/film postproduction and digital theater customers, so when people tell me stuff like that, my BS detectors start flashing. As to when they actually began collecting the gear, I wouldn't know, but I tend to think that a lot of them started later in life when they got established in a career that provided them with enough money to buy all that fabulously expensive stuff. > And even though I don't like hanging out with them, I'm not sure they're > any "worse" than us. Again, I'm not exactly sure how you got the impression that I was saying this in my original post, but whatever... -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) greetings/intro Date: 16 Jun 2001 23:11:39 EDT Welcome aboard. There's a fair amount of jazz talk here though it tends to focus on the genres which are less critically accepted: latin jazz, crime jazz (soundtracks), organ combos, danceable jazz (used for breakbeats etc), Sun Ra. Stuff like that. We're all very familiar with the pool of West Coast jazz musicians that played on so many studio sessions during the 50s and 60s (Shelley Manne, Plas Johnson, Shorty Rogers, Buddy Collette, the Condoli bros., etc.) I'm sure most folks here own some Duke Ellington (gotta for "Caravan" anyway) and Miles (love his cover of "Nature Boy" - by exoti-cat supreme Eden Ahbez), but not a lot of talk about head arrangements or why Fusion sucked (or didn't). Lots of open ears here. --David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tiki kiliki" Subject: Re: (exotica) i told you not to cry Date: 16 Jun 2001 23:15:05 -0400 Definitely invest in Gert Wilden!!! I can't say that without screaming!!!!!!!!!!! " I Told You Not To Cry " is a great record. The title track is absolutely amazing!! All tracks on that record are worth it. I would also like to suggest " Schoolgirl Report ". Both cd's on Crippled Dick Hot Wax Records. Their email is toni@gbc.net Aloha, Tiki Kiliki # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tiki kiliki" Subject: Re: (exotica) favorite cocktail? Date: 16 Jun 2001 23:44:54 -0400 This may be a little late but I'll share anyway. My favorite cocktail of choice would have to be a Mango Daiquiri! Recipe: 2 ripe mangos pureed 1tsp. sugar 1 jigger triple sec 2 - 3 jiggers of your favorite rum ice - to your liking garnish with fresh pineapple and a cherry! This cocktail generally calls for lime juice but it really takes away from the tropically rich flavor of the mango which should be savored. I like these strong and lots of ice!! Serve in only the best of your tiki collection! Mikomiko!! Aloha, Tiki Kiliki # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) greetings/intro Date: 17 Jun 2001 01:38:11 -0400 At 05:30 PM 6/16/01 -0700, PjB wrote: are there many here who lean toward jazz as their main >area of interest? I'm a recovered jazz addict myself. At this point I prefer the kind of jazz that as a jazz snob I would have called "NOT jazz". But if you want to talk about jazz occasionally, I could draw on my past. The fact is I still like (real) jazz but I just can't live on it like I used to. anyone know of any mailing lists that deal specifically with 50s >and 60s jazz? There's a west coast jazz list. I suggest you DON'T get the digest as I did because the way the digest is published, I could never figure out who was replying and who was being replied to... if you get my drift daddyo. The address for the digest is: jazz-westcoast-digest-subscribe@merchant.book.uci.edu And you can talk about jazz here. A lot of people here are secret jazz afficianados. As far as the actual interest of this list though, most people here are more interested in jazz soundtracks than jazz soloists. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ronnie edgar" Subject: Re: (exotica) And talking of Lalo.... Date: 17 Jun 2001 12:32:31 +0100 I have it but don't think much of it, seem's a bit too much like late crap Deodato > DJJimmyBee@aol.com > as do I....anyone familiar with "Towering Toccata"? Saw it once or twice, # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Subject: Re: (exotica) $140,000 stereo systems Date: 17 Jun 2001 13:50:42 +0200 It's one thing being a geek (I wouldn't mind if people classified me as such) It's another when geeks (or any other humanoid for that matter) take their obsessions too seriously. I can enjoy Stereo Action effects and likewise concepts, but that doesn't mean I have to spend megabucks on them. I wouldn't even pay that for an ultra rare exotica record. Listening to music is supposed to be an emotional experience. It has nothing to do with money. By overemphasizing the technical aspects of music these audiophiles become just too rational for my taste. Maybe it would be better to consider them as electronica enthusiasts rather than music enthusiasts.The fun of thrift hunting is trying to find new meanings and values for other people's junk. Often that demands active imagination. The only imagination audiophiles need is that they pocess canine hearing abilities. For me these overpriced stereo systems are mere status symbols like cars, and as such penile extensions of some sort. I have difficulty seeing my record collection as such. (maybe I'm just biased) I'm not saying I consider myself a better person than the average audiophile. If you can judge someone by their income, they are more succesful in life than I am. alan zweig wrote: > Then again that does sort of sound like us. Some of us anyway. > I certainly like those Stereo