From: transmat@teleport.com Subject: Esquivel CD Date: 21 Aug 1994 09:29:40 -0800 A guy at a rekkid store i go to told me there is an Esquivel CD out. Has anyone heard it? He also told me that there are some recent compositions on it. Any comments? Anyone find anything interesting lately? I've been too busy to go fleain'. Take care y'all...enjoy the rest of the summer.... bleep...bleep...(what is that noize!) bleep.....transmat@teleport.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@RT66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Esquivel CD Date: 22 Aug 1994 09:04:03 -0600 (MDT) > A guy at a rekkid store i go to told me there is an Esquivel CD out. Has > anyone heard it? I picked it up a couple of weeks ago -- it's good! A little short, maybe. It got some play at a party I was at recently, to favorable response. (Then we moved on to Dick Dale -- Tribal Thunder is an *amazing* album.) > He also told me that there are some recent compositions on it. I don't think there's anything more recent than 1968 or so. The disc says for sure but it's at home and here I am at work, so . . . > Any comments? Anyone find anything interesting lately? Just the Combustible Edison disc. And that damned Newsweek article. - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ====================================================================== "Techno techno bloody *techno*, darling!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Butman, Holly" Subject: FW: Esquivel CD Date: 22 Aug 1994 12:09:00 PDT ---------- Hey all, this is Holly Butman & this is my introductory posting to this list. By day an upstanding hospital administrator, by night a long time college radio DJ/AMD and record collector wannabe. Note not collector scum, however! Interests include unusual instrumentation (theremin, bagpipes in nontraditional settings, anything fuzzy & dirty sounding, cowbells) and weird lyrics. I'm particularly interested in songs that are by or about strong, emancipated women by artists or from times when this would be considered rather unusual and also songs by women that are basically very self-denigrating (e.g., "He Hit Me" by The Crystals...) Pretty contradictory, huh? Also love any- all double entendre/ennuendo/raunchy stuff and basically anything that would be considered weird, across all genres of music. By the way, re. the Esquivel disc - there's nothing new, it's all stuff that was previously released on vinyl. It's really popular down here in Durham, NC & I'm very fond of it, although at this point it's reaching overkill. Never thought I'd hear Esquivel being overplayed on the radio.... Looking forward to meeting all of you... Holly Butman butma001@mc.duke.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Karty Subject: Re: FW: Esquivel CD Date: 29 Aug 1994 16:29:21 -0700 (PDT) Lazlo - let me guess, is the Newsweek article about Combustible Edison and cocktail lounges being the next big thing? I finally got the Esquivel CD from Ear-Rational yesterday (it was on back-order, surprise surprise) - definitely too short, and on first listen I heard some nasty hiss. But I'm no expert on how old stuff transfers to CD so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt : maybe it's unavoidable. Anyhow, it's that or nothing: I just got back from St Louis, and at the 2nd-hand record shops I was told they have standing orders from the Japanese for not only Esquivel but essentially all old jazz, pop vocal, 'weird', funk and R & B. Basically everything except Peter Frampton and Sheena Easton. :-( In St Louis I heard quite a bit of, er, incredibly strange music on college and independent stations. I mean, not 'experimental' music per se, but 50's and 60's bizarre 'novelty' songs, cheesy easy listening, etc. > was previously released on vinyl. It's really popular down here in Durham, > NC & I'm very fond of it, although at this point it's reaching overkill. Holly - welcome to the list. Your tastes and mine have a fair amount in common. what station do they play Esquivel on? I have a friend in Durham and I'll tell him to listen. About three years ago I saw a CD of blues and early jazz songs ('20s - '30s) about marijuana and other drugs. I think it was on a fairly major label. Richard ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dx@netcom.com (dx) Subject: Extocia on College Radio Date: 29 Aug 1994 16:47:59 -0700 > In St Louis I heard quite a bit of, er, incredibly strange music on > college and independent stations. I mean, not 'experimental' music per se, > but 50's and 60's bizarre 'novelty' songs, cheesy easy listening, etc. Are all these people who are suddenly fans of 50s instrumental music the same hipsters who were calling me up 10 years ago and yelling at me for playing this music on the radio? I used to get an incredible number of calls from people asking, "Why don't you play some *music*?" Now, of course, it's quite the in thing to drop a name such as Martin Denny or Esquivel. When I used to put these records on at home, when guests were over, they'd all smile politely, thinking it was some sort of joke. Their smile turned to horror, however, when I went back to the turntable to flip the record over and play the other side. Now they're all spinning the new Esquivel disk, and picking up Marty Gold albums left and right. Where did this come from? Is it from the Re/Search books? Is it because some groovy band or another has repeatedly pointed to these 50s artists as their inspirations? Personally I'd rather all these artists had continued to live in their relative obscurity, without the scenesters snapping up the vinyl and jerking the prices up to ridiculous heights. One of the main reasons I started collecting these records (before I found I actually liked the music) was that they could be had in large part for 25-cents, and they made a nice wall display. How long will the current craze last? How long until everyone moves on to the Next Big Thing? In the meantime, what do I collect next? I'm starting to pick up a lot of skating records. Organ records of music for skating rinks. Ice skating. None of that roller skating organ music. And preferrably only that music which was intended for indoor rink use. The outdoor ice skating organ music all has too much reverb (to make up for the missing barn-like acoustics of an indoor rink). After that it's on to soundtrack records from 1960's filmstrips and industrial tradeshow soundtracks. And then maybe a big push on 70s aerobics records. - -dx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Re: FW: Esquivel CD Date: 29 Aug 1994 18:25:05 -0600 (MDT) > Lazlo - let me guess, is the Newsweek article about Combustible Edison > and cocktail lounges being the next big thing? Pretty much; the RE/Search books also got a plug. > Anyhow, it's that or nothing: I just got back from St Louis, and at the > 2nd-hand record shops I was told they have standing orders from the > Japanese for not only Esquivel but essentially all old jazz, pop vocal, > 'weird', funk and R & B. Basically everything except Peter Frampton and > Sheena Easton. :-( As collectable as all this stuff is in the States, you can rake in even more money for it overseas. One local shop regularly prices *anything* from the '50s at $20+, simply because they're guaranteed to get more than that when the owner makes his annual trip to Italy. It's kind of sad, but I enjoy the challenge of collecting a lot and have to admit that this makes it that much more challenging. :-) > About three years ago I saw a CD of blues and early jazz songs ('20s - > '30s) about marijuana and other drugs. I think it was on a fairly major > label. Yeah, I noticed the Art Deco CD of old gay torch songs from the '20s in one shop last weekend. No super-special finds lately, except for the Laika And The Cosmonauts CD. And I got Dick Dale's Tribal Thunder for my birthday. If you get a chance to see Dale live, check it out; he's got magnificent chops and hangs out with everybody after the show. (He's also using the same guitar and head that he's been playing since the late '50s . . . ) - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ====================================================================== "Techno techno bloody *techno*, darling!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Extocia on College Radio Date: 29 Aug 1994 18:29:54 -0600 (MDT) > Where did this come from? Is it from the Re/Search books? Is it because > some groovy band or another has repeatedly pointed to these 50s artists as > their inspirations? I really think it just *happened*. > Personally I'd rather all these artists had continued to live in their > relative obscurity, without the scenesters snapping up the vinyl and > jerking the prices up to ridiculous heights. One of the main reasons I > started collecting these records (before I found I actually liked the > music) was that they could be had in large part for 25-cents, and they > made a nice wall display. Well, it's more work than it used to be, but you can still get 'em for 25 cents, and they still look great on the wall. I think the farther the thrift store/auction/church rummage sale/etc. is from any kind of college area, the better your chances are for finding the goodies. Plus the kids will get tired of it eventually, and then all those old records will be back on the market . . . - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ====================================================================== "Techno techno bloody *techno*, darling!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Murphy Subject: Re: FW: Esquivel CD Date: 29 Aug 1994 17:28:59 -0700 (PDT) > About three years ago I saw a CD of blues and early jazz songs ('20s - > '30s) about marijuana and other drugs. I think it was on a fairly major > label. If I'm not mistaken that may be on Okeh records, through Sony Music. I do know it's a collection from Okeh....... B ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: transmat@teleport.com Subject: cosmic! Date: 29 Aug 1994 19:27:21 -0800 Well, i was all set to write up some stuff i've been thinking about since yesterday to y'all, when low and behold! Messages from some of you... Anyway, yesterday a friend came over and brought this magazine over called "Utne Reader" (he took it with him so i hope i spell & remember everything ok). He knew i enjoyed differetn kinds of music and the magazine had reprinted an article called 'Cocktail Nation.' I started looking through it, nice color shots of Martin Denny, Frank Sinatra, and Julie London albums. So I started reading the article. Well, the more I read, the angrier i got, so by the time i got to the second page (i think it is about 5 or so pages long) I just skimmed through the rest. Too many 'buzzwords' and 'wink-winks' if you know what i mean. In fact the author talked about the 'winkless-wink.' The article reeked of smarmyness and condescension. I felt the same way after seeing the David Byrne movie "True Stories;" the 'intellectual' on holiday among the common folk, looking for amusing stories to fill his time. Off the subject, sorry. But after quickly reading the rest of 'Cocktail Nation,' I felt like giving the author a 'knuckle sandwich.' When i told my friend this he said 'i thought you would.' Just let me say, i aint humorless (ironic and otherwise) and i know there are different uses for music. I just dont like it when people make fun of other people cause they think they are 'weird' in some way. Or maybe i was in a bad mood and 'read the article wrong.' Your criticisms on my thoughts are welcome. richard bleep...bleep...(what is that noize!) bleep.....transmat@teleport.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: barry@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Barry Cox) Subject: Ex[otic]-istential Woes Date: 30 Aug 1994 10:45:11 -0500 >Where did this come from?...How long will the current craze last? How long >until everyone moves on to the Next Big Thing? I don't know, I can't really empathize. I don't think the craze has spread through the corn yet (it's over six feet tall!), although some of my friends are starting to pick up on Martin Denny. Of course, the pickin's were never too good down here in Urbana IL to start with. I bought most of my good cheese while in Chicago. Maybe more people are starting to like it for the same reason I think I started to like it: After listening to rock music all my life I just got fucking sick to death of it. And it is so ubiquitous in this society, it's hard to escape, it's in the grocery store, in the restaurant... Also for me I think economics had a little to do with it. I didn't want to spend 15 bucks for 40 minutes of stuff I would probably hate, so I'd pick up a shopping bag full of records that would at LEAST have a cool cover for about 3 bucks. >In the meantime, what do I collect next? I'm starting to pick up a lot of >skating records.[...] I always liked cheesy music with a "Latin Flair," MArtin Denny, Bossa Nova, most anything with bongos, cowbells, etc. So I started getting more into that (Not "Latin Jazz" though, I find most of that pretty obnoxious), buying stuff by Joao Gilberto without Stan Getz (it's much better!), Perez Prado ("Attn. Organ music fans: "Prez" eats wimps like Lenny Dee for BREAKFAST! ARRRGH!"), alot of great old Cuban stuff is getting reissued on CD...well I'm getting off the subject. The last great thrift-store find I made was a copy of Les Baxter's "Le Sacre du Sauvage", in great shape, for FREE! (I was there right as the store was closing...) - ------barry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Butman, Holly" Subject: Reefer songs/NC radio (was RE:Esquivel) Date: 30 Aug 1994 11:38:00 PDT ---------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Butman, Holly Subject: Re: FW: Esquivel CD Date: 30 Aug 1994 11:38:00 PDT ---------- OOPs! My comments are kind of merged in w. Richard's original comments..I hope the conversation makes sense:) Holly >(snip) Holly's reply: >Hi Richard! Your friend might enjoy WXDU 88.7 FM , where I >just happen to serve as ass't music director:). Our >programming is pretty varied. BTW, I'm on Fridays 9 - 11:30 pm >at the moment. WXYC 89.3 FM is another good station, though it >makes my teeth ache to say it! IMHO they have more consistent >DJ quality & a better library BUT I think WXDU has some better >individual shows. >Both stations have/play Esquivel. If your friend likes soul he >can try 1490 on his AM dial...a really groovy little station >whose call letters escape me at the moment. > Richard's welcome: >Holly - welcome to the list. Your tastes and mine have a fair amount in >common. what station do they play Esquivel on? I have a friend in Durham >and I'll tell him to listen. > Holly says: >I'm not sure what you saw, but Jass Records has released 2 CDs >dealing with same topics - Viper Mad Blues & Reefer Songs. >They're both in print & recommended. Jass is a great company. >Other titles include Sissy Man Blues (a good compliment to the >Art Deco release), Copulatin' Blues, etc. Also the best Xmas >compilation ever (well, along with Hipster's Holiday), Santa >Claus Jazz (??), which is basically a reissue of a great old >Stash LP. > Richard said: >About three years ago I saw a CD of blues and early jazz songs ('20s - >'30s) about marijuana and other drugs. I think it was on a fairly major >label. > >Richard > >Thanks for the welcome - BTW, my thoughts re "collector scum" >seem to agree with yours...IMHO, music is to be enjoyed, >listened to & shared - what a concept, huh? > >Holly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Re: FW: Esquivel CD Date: 30 Aug 1994 09:54:57 -0600 (MDT) [Forwarded. Please make sure your mail's going to "exotica" and not "exotica-owner" . . . thanks! -laz] Holly Butman writes: ---------- OOPs! My comments are kind of merged in w. Richard's original comments..I hope the conversation makes sense:) Holly (snip) Holly's reply: Hi Richard! Your friend might enjoy WXDU 88.7 FM , where I just happen to serve as ass't music director:). Our programming is pretty varied. BTW, I'm on Fridays 9 - 11:30 pm at the moment. WXYC 89.3 FM is another good station, though it makes my teeth ache to say it! IMHO they have more consistent DJ quality & a better library BUT I think WXDU has some better individual shows. Both stations have/play Esquivel. If your friend likes soul he can try 1490 on his AM dial...a really groovy little station whose call letters escape me at the moment. Richard's welcome: >Holly - welcome to the list. Your tastes and mine have a fair amount in >common. what station do they play Esquivel on? I have a friend in Durham >and I'll tell him to listen. Holly says: I'm not sure what you saw, but Jass Records has released 2 CDs dealing with same topics - Viper Mad Blues & Reefer Songs. They're both in print & recommended. Jass is a great company. Other titles include Sissy Man Blues (a good compliment to the Art Deco release), Copulatin' Blues, etc. Also the best Xmas compilation ever (well, along with Hipster's Holiday), Santa Claus Jazz (??), which is basically a reissue of a great old Stash LP. Richard said: >About three years ago I saw a CD of blues and early jazz songs ('20s - >'30s) about marijuana and other drugs. I think it was on a fairly major >label. > >Richard Thanks for the welcome - BTW, my thoughts re "collector scum" seem to agree with yours...IMHO, music is to be enjoyed, listened to & shared - what a concept, huh? Holly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Re: Extocia on College Radio Date: 30 Aug 1994 18:17:13 -0600 (MDT) > [...] The guidebook was mistaken about this particular shop, however, and > the owner said "No, we don't carry clothes - and why are there so many > Orientals [sic] all of a sudden coming here asking for them?" Sad, but no sadder than stories of good old-fashioned American collectors coming across stashes of, say, great old Jazz sides in a warehouse somewhere, and *intentionally destroying* the dupes of the stuff they already had in order to drive up the value of their own copies . . . > P.S. What's with the Gregorian chant fad? Were they used in some Sharon > Stone movie or a Reeboks commercial or something? It's a direct result of the success of Enigma's first album back in 1991. (And once again, most of the "fad" is just hype -- several local indie shops seem to have bought quickie gregorian compilations only to see them languish in the bins.) - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ====================================================================== "Techno techno bloody *techno*, darling!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Apology Date: 31 Aug 1994 15:46:02 -0600 (MDT) Sorry to everyone who had to sit through all that mailbombing. I let the guy's site know what he was up to. laz