From: JoeBatutis@aol.com Subject: Three Suns Date: 09 May 1995 08:24:03 -0400 I just got a Three Suns CD compilation on Circle Records. It features some peppy tunes from 1949-1953. The combination of organ, accordion and guitar is very interesting (apparently the "new" hammond organ was quite a novelty at the time). The liner notes mention that this was Mamie Eisenhowers favorite group. 'Nuff said. - -Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: asphodel@interport.net (Erik Gilbert) Subject: Asphodel Website Date: 09 May 1995 16:06:04 +0000 We are proud to announce that the Asphodel website is up and running and waiting for you to knock on the door... Incredibly Strange Music Volume 2, Ken Nordine, Single Cell Orchestra, Throne of Drones and more... Also the site for the Asphodel imprint label Sombient (The Throne of Drones CD is now in stores) and sister company Sound Traffic Control. The site is at: http://198.207.163.69/stc/ Let us know what you think, and if have any suggestions for sites that we can link to. Look forward to hearing from you. Erik Gilbert Label Manager, Asphodel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Watterworth Jay Subject: Re: RE: Bad music Date: 09 May 1995 19:18:26 -0600 (MDT) IMHO, "Berlin" is one of Lou Reed's finest efforts. Really captured the mood. But, of course, one must consider that I actually have a copy of "Metal Machine Music" and listen to that, too. As a point of interest, it was released after his big selling live lp and set a record for the label as the most returned lp in history. I guess the teenie boppers thought it would be more of the same. Jay Watterworth CU Boulder On Sat, 6 May 1995 TSturn@aol.com wrote: > Well, I found Lou Reed's "Berlin" to be pretty effective, but that's only > because i didn't have a copy of "Metal Machine Music" > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cgregory@deakin.edu.au (Chris Gregory) Subject: Raymond Scott info Date: 10 May 1995 20:26:49 +1000 I posted a question about Raymond Scott a while ago, and mentioned a couple of CDs that my record store had listed on their catalogue, but nobody seemed to have heard of them. I went back and checked. One is called '1939', and the other is called 'Volume 2, 1944'. They are both released by Hindsight, which are distributed by Festival records in Australia. Hindsight specialise in budget CD releases of 78 recordings, so I presume that both CDs will contain much the same material as Restless Nights on CBS and Powerhouse on Stash. But I think I might buy them anyway... BTW, just who is this Irwin Chusid fellow who seems to have been involved with every CD I've bought for the last six months? Maybe if someone can provide a list of the titles that Irwin has worked on, I can save myself the bother of searching them out for myself... and has anyone suggested getting him an email account? - --- Chris Gregory cgregory@deakin.edu.au ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dx@netcom.com (dx) Subject: Re: Raymond Scott info Date: 10 May 1995 05:53:52 -0700 > BTW, just who is this Irwin Chusid fellow who seems to have been involved > with every CD I've bought for the last six months? Maybe if someone can > provide a list of the titles that Irwin has worked on, I can save myself > the bother of searching them out for myself... and has anyone suggested > getting him an email account? Irwin is a DJ at WFMU-FM, and is in charge of the Raymond Scott archives. You can write him at irwin@freeform.wfmu.org or chusid@freeform.wfmu.org or irwinchusid@freeform.wfmu.org, I can't remember which. - -dx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil Levy Subject: Hi Date: 10 May 1995 12:10:17 -29900 Hello. I'm Stork. I work at WFMU in East Orange NJ where I work and do a couple of shows. Hope to get loads of good ideas. Mail me directly at stork@wfmu.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarah Pearson Subject: bad music, briefly... Date: 10 May 1995 09:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Scary Record Review part 2.5 I thought I should mention two Honorable Mentions: Fantastic Country Volume 1 (20 Great Stars 20 Great Hits) This is basically all of your "favorite" country songs done by no one you ever wanted to hear sing them, or anything else. The classic from this record is Lorne Greene's version of "Ringo"--- the back-up singers aren't credited, but they made this song what it is today. Lorne's deep voice echoes through the song, soulfully. Also, Sammi Smith's rendition of "For the Kids" renders your stomach non-functioning. For my own sanity, I have to believe that these were the wrong takes selected purely by accident by a drunk producer. This is _really_ BAD. Even if you dig country. The Love Album (The Great Stars Sing the Great Hits) I must confess, I've never actually put this record on my turntable. My thought is: Why tempt fate? With Jim Nabors' "What Now My Love", Patti Page's "Moon River", Eydie Gorme's "I Remember You", Doris Day's "Softly, As I Leave You", the sickly sweet factor puts plaque on my teeth just considering it. As the back cover says: "A collection of color portraits painted in words and music." *** Disclaimer *** If forwarded, this document should remain _whole_. All opinions within are mine, all mine. You're perfectly welcome to disagree with me. I wrote this stuff. Nobody helped me. Sarah E. Pearson ************************************************** n9048262@henson.cc.wwu.edu sarahp@spie.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dx@netcom.com (dx) Subject: Re: bad music, briefly... Date: 10 May 1995 10:04:24 -0700 Sarah Pearson... > Fantastic Country Volume 1 (20 Great Stars 20 Great Hits) > ... > The classic from this record is Lorne Greene's version of "Ringo" What's even scarier is the 7" version of "Ringo" that has the vocal version of the Bonanza theme on the flip. It's not clear whether Greene's strained vocals, or the forced rhymes of the lyrics are real the star. There is also a version with "An Old Tin Cup" as the flip. All taken, I assume, from the Bonanza LP. - -dx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mythosound@aol.com Subject: Denny Date: 10 May 1995 18:40:06 -0400 Hi ! I'm (desperately) trying to find as much as I can about Japanese CD releases of Exotica classics, but the information is very difficult to come by. I have the following Japanese CD's : Martin Denny : The Exotic Sounds (The Very Best of Martin Denny ) Martin Denny : Exotica 90 Martin Denny : Hypnotique Martin Denny : Quiet Village Various Artists: The Very Best of The Exotic Sounds I've heard that there are probably more, including a Sondi Sodsai CD. Anything by Denny, Les Baxter etc would be damned welcome ! Anybody out there have any information ? I particularly need a source to purchase such material. Anybody know of any "into space" type CD's out there (Russ Garcia etc) ? Incidentally, a friend of mine (Stuart Swezey at Amok) who put together the Rhino Danny CD, is working on a CD of early Moog tracks, should be the first in a series of releases to include exotica. More as and when it happens. All for now. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TP Uschanov Subject: Taylor & May Date: 11 May 1995 21:17:08 +0300 (EET DST) > speaking of Mancini, I just listened to a great album called "Terribly > Sophisticated Songs-a collection of unpopular songs for popular people". > There is no artist listed on the cover, only on the label do you see that > it is with orchestra coneducted by Henry Mancini. The songs were written > by Irving Taylor and include such sophisticated hits as "When the Crab > Grass Blooms Again","I'll Never Forget Those Unforgettable Never To Be > Forgotten Memories","I'm Filled with that Empty Feeling" to mention a > few. It's Warner Bros. BS1210 from 1958, so it may not be to easy to > find. This is listed as by Taylor & May on the liner of 'Spike Jones in Hi-Fi' on Warner Brothers. This is to say the LP has a type of 'cross-label promotion' Lazlo Nibble reported on 'We Wish You a Merry Christmas'. I don't think it was merely a Christmas good cheer from WB; I also remember having, as a kid, an Everly Bros. album that had similar ads, Mark Dinning for one. BTW, other recommendations on the Spike LP include his 'Dinner Music...' on Verve, and 'Music to Be Murdered by' by Alfred Hitchcock, on Imperial! Does this last one really exist?? T P Uschanov uschanov@cc.joensuu.fi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AMcCon@aol.com Subject: Straight from Irwin's mouth Date: 12 May 1995 11:39:07 -0400 Been meaning to post this for a few days, but only now have the moment to do so... I met Irwin Chusid at the WFMU Record Fair last weekend when I (stupidly) tried to buy his display copy of MUSIC FOR A SPARKLING PLANET, the new Bar None Esquivel compilation. He shared some interesting info: For one thing, he said there will be a third Esquivel comp from Bar None some months after the new one. He also said don't expect Reprise to actually ship Esquivel's MORE OF OTHER WORLDS, OTHER SOUNDS in June as was posted in ICE and here on the Exotica list. He told me there has been an ongoing search to determine who exactly owns this material -- neither Reprise nor Esquivel "has the paper," as Irwin put it ("Esquivel wasn't much of a businessman. Quite a drinker, but not a businessman.") In the meantime, Reprise continues to announce it, but can't actually put the damned thing out 'til this is ironed out. The Record Fair was great for vinyl collectors, but a bit disappointing for us pathetic, despised CD listeners. The best CD stuff was at the WFMU table, where I picked up Clara Rockmore's theramin album, so not a total loss. Arn McConnell AMcCon@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CXWS000 Subject: Introducing myself Date: 14 May 1995 22:02:35 EDT I've been lurking silently behind this list for too long, and thought I should introduce myself. I've joined and dropped a dozen music lists over the last year, and this is the only one I'm going to stick with. I've been collecting exotic records for over 20 years, alongside more respectable tastes which have run from punk through torch singing and house music. My collecting tastes run especially to jazz tv and film soundtracks of the 1950s, A&M-type "adult" music of the mid and late 1960s, beatnik novelty records, soundtracks of the 1960s which are high on European sophistication, and so on. A particular subspeciality I've been developing has to do with Quebec-based exotica. In the 1960s, and right through the1970s, there was an indigenous industry producing instrumental and mood music albums. A fellow named Lucien Hetu (whom rumor has it was eventually caught child-molesting) was the preeminent figure in this scene, and there are literally dozens of his titles scattered throughout every flea market and second hand store in Montreal. My favourite -- with which I won a "worst record" contest in the mid 1970s -- is Lucien Hetu joue Les Monkees, the cover of which has Lucien playing his organ while a badly cut-out Monkees dance in miniature on his instrument. A related sideline, which I've begun pursuing only recently, is records brought out in Montrea to capitalize on Expo 67, the very successful world's fair. It seems every bad organist in the world made their way to Expo, set up shop outdoors, and played for the crowds. In many cases, as well, they brought out records which offer versions of songs big at the time -- A Man and a Woman, Girl From Impanema and so on. My favourite recent purchases -- unrelated to these interests -- are Capitol records sent to Easy Listening stations in the mid 1960s, several of which I came across a few months ago. I also have been stumbling on literally dozens of mood music albums for filmmakers and tv stations (most of them from the early 1970s) which seem to have been unloaded on every second hand record store in town. Anyway, that's who I am. Will Straw ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John McMahon Subject: "Bad Music"? Date: 16 May 1995 19:56:05 EDT Exoticists: I've been lurking on this list (which has been pretty sparsely posted-to, until recently) and thought I'd weigh in with an opinion or two... Like, I suspect, many of you, my introduction to the concept of "Exotica" was through the Rhino Martin Denny collection (which I picked up used for $5.00 at my local "hip" record shop. The clerk snorted with derision when I went to pay for it.), and through the first "Incredibly Strange Music" volume. I've followed some of the discussion, particularly appreciations of previously underappreciated bargains, with interest. I am, however, disturbed by a thread that seems to keep coming back. This is the notion that some of this music (or all of this music!) is in some sense "bad", suitable only for clearing rooms of unwanted guests. I find this posture of liking music for its "camp" value, for the "so bad it's good" quality it may posses, distasteful. It condescends to the cultures which produced these musics. To hold, for instance, the music of African-American musician Anthony Braxton, a serious composer, highly respected around the world, up to ridicule as a way of ending a party, seems to me to be boorish and philistine. So much of what is discussed on "exotica" has been neglected, not because of any inherent inferiority, but because it ran counter to the rock music juggernaut which has maintained a stranglehold on popular musical taste for much of the history of recorded music. That that stranglehold is being loosened is a good sign; the cultural imperialism which bolstered that hold is slower to die. The music of Martin Denny (and countless others) is great on its own terms, and not because it may make some of us feel smugly confident of the excellence of our musical tastes. To what extent do we like this music, and to what extent do we hold a posture of liking it as some kind of perverse statement of alienation from the prevailing tastes of our time? How much of our like for "exotica" is an attention getting pose? This is not intended in ANY way as a flame. I've enjoyed these discussions, and hope to keep them going. Cheers, John McMahon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DARLA Subject: Exotica's Own Two Feet Date: 16 May 1995 22:12:11 -0500 (EST) Thanks John for that post in protest to the often-questionable stance on Exotica as "bad", or "so bad it's good". I, too have been in the wings of this list for a little while now, and have not felt terribly compelled to post anything yet. But to add to the chorus of of us who truly appreciate and even take the stuff seriously, I invite people to start more a discussion on the topic. Although I feel strangely protective of my work and opinions, I will now admit that I have just completeted my senior thesis on the stuff, and thereby take it very seriously. I'm not really ready to disclose my document to the world - it needs some more thought and refining - but I would be happy to talk with any of you about my take on the genre. I'd like to say that I don't think that using the stuff to clear rooms or treating it as "so bad it's good" is necessarily disrespectful. On the contrary, none of us would own such strange records unless we valued them for reasons beyond frightening our friends. No reason to get offended over the ulterior use of unusual music. Still: one must realize that all of the music we have been discussing here was produced if not in all seriousness, then at least in a cultural context that accepted such things. That's gotta get you thinking. Anyway, just adding my two cents. I'd be fascinated to hear what people think about the good/bad debate and other related topics. Chandra crtobey@amherst.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MATTURRI Subject: badness as goodness Date: 17 May 1995 01:10:22 EST There is an aesthetics of schlock that's not entirely unrelated to some of the aesthetics of exotica. Mistakes, misused conventions, cross-cultural misinterpretations, and so on can be very beautifully whether or not they are intended. I've never understood going to bad movies or listening to bad msuic just to feel superior. Merely stupid or bad work is just boring. The aesthetics of schlock may be as demanding as the aesthetics of 'high art'. On the other hand, even while appreciating some of this stuff you can't help but smiling at it. In fact probably it's the complicated reaction to this type of work that makes it interesting. John M. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Burch Subject: [none] Date: 17 May 1995 02:29:36 -1000 Schlock is OK every now and then, I just don't think it should form the core of ones' collection. I can't relate to Denny or Lyman, although I used to bodyboard at Lyman's in Kona, HI where his mansion residess. I am interested in current exotica, not dusty vinyl from the Salvation Army. Does anyone out there listen to: Hector Zazou Crash Worship Exodus Quartet Nighttrains Praxis Hakim Bey Any Bill Laswell (Axiom) production etc. Am I in the wrong group? PS--MONDO 2000 had a good interview of Laswell called "Purity and Danger" which also features discussion of Bey' strategy of TAZ--temporary autonomous zones. ====================================================================== "I am rhythm. I am the juice of all your religions. I am the slippery foundation of all your scientific laws. I am the pulsation which drives the drumwork of creation. I am eternally self-renewing and you are free to dance in and out of my grasp."--Principia Rhythmystica _____________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoeBatutis@aol.com Subject: Exotica Date: 17 May 1995 08:55:56 -0400 I see a difference in peoples interest in exotica and their interest in "bad" movies. I've always thought that part of the reason people liked bad movies was that they could see "behind the curtain". By that I mean that the construction of the film is brought to the viewers attention because it is badly constructed. A great film has a seamless quality that even makes filmakers forget that it's a bunch of film and sound edited together. I personally value both bad film and good film. Exotica, on the other hand, is usually contructed very well. It's the choices that the composer or arranger used that some people would find bad. I don't share the idea that exotica is bad. I find it more interesting than most pop music that is on the market today. On a lighter note, I'm certain that in my discussion of "room clearing music", I said that the room clearing possibilities of the music did not reflect my own taste, but the music that most people wouldn't enjoy listening to at a party. I listen to music with a sense of fun and adventure. The day I have to listen "seriously" to music from "respected" composers will be my last day enjoying music. I can't wait to tell my friends that I was called boorish and philistine through e-mail. Mr. McMahon your polysyllabic diatribe cannot mask your inner essence: you sir, are the zenith of pomposity! (No, disrespect implied) - -Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LEFFEL@scccvc.corning-cc.edu Subject: RE: badness as goodness Date: 17 May 1995 09:37 EST Good day, all My opinion on this thread is this. If I like the music, its good. If I don't like the music, its bad. By the way, there is very little music that I don't like, in one mental state or another. In fact, I take pride in certain types of music that I like] that drives other folks insane (or just away). This may reflect on my personality, but I enjoy the Legendary Stardust Cowboy. He's a GENIUS. Anybody concur? Rick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: T P Uschanov Subject: Re: badness as goodness Date: 17 May 1995 16:41:45 +0300 (EET DST) > Merely > stupid or bad work is just boring. The aesthetics of schlock > may be as demanding as the aesthetics of 'high art'. Richard Meltzer makes this point at 346 pages' length in his _The Aesthetics of Rock_ (Da Capo, '87). My highest recommendations for it. > On the other hand, even while appreciating some of this > stuff you can't help but smiling at it. In fact probably > it's the complicated reaction to this type of work that > makes it interesting. Could there be an idiot savant (aest)ethic here? > John M. T.P. U. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Current Exotica Date: 17 May 1995 09:17:35 -0600 (MDT) > I am interested in current exotica, not dusty vinyl from the Salvation Army. > Am I in the wrong group? Well, the primary focus of this list *is* the dusty-vinyl-from-the-Salvation- Army material. I'm sure there are other places on the net where you'd get more enriching discussion of Lasswellania than you would here. (Understand that I'm not trying to drive you off, just letting you know what the list's for.) Laz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARKG@mark-ed.infinet.com (Mark Gunderson) Subject: I hear good musicks, I hear bad musicks Date: 17 May 1995 11:02:54 EST Gotta be the closest thing to a flamefest on exotica yet... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John McMahon : Subject: I hear good musicks, I hear bad musicks Date: 17 May 1995 11:02:54 EST Just an aside; I noticed that my thrift store finds got thinner and thinner just a little before the ISM release. For those of you who got the bug about then, have you had problems finding the real vinyl in your thrift or second-hand stores? > To hold, for instance, the music of African-American musician Anthony Braxton, > a serious composer, highly respected around the world, up to ridicule as a way > of ending a party, seems to me to be boorish and philistine. You're logic's fine, of course, but... well, not once have I found a situation where the phrase "boorish and philistine" has failed to send me into unstoppable giggles. > So much of what is discussed on "exotica" has been neglected, not because of > any inherent inferiority, but because it ran counter to the rock music > juggernaut which has maintained a stranglehold on popular musical taste for > much of the history of recorded music. That that stranglehold is being > loosened is a good sign; the cultural imperialism which bolstered that hold is > slower to die. Of course, when culture (and music especially) developed into the multi-billion dollar business that it is today, we were doomed to be fashion slaves and marketing victims, all of us. The MTV Monster needs its grist, and things like the music of old are prime cutlets for it ("You like THAT old stuff? Get WITH it, daddy-o! You're so unHIP!"). But that feeling existed long before MTV, really... MTV et al just magnified and marketed it. It's simply the desire for any generation to disconnect/disown itself from the generation before it. Mass media has also accelerated this process greatly, making music from the 80's "classic" even though a full generation hasn't yet passed. We're also just starting to see what mass media looks like after it's died. We go to the thrift store and wonder why there are so many copies of Whipped Cream and Other Delights and Frampton Comes Alive and wonder just how these millions of people could have thought this crap was so cool. To many of our "refined, modern" sensibilities, it defies sense and logic. Some of us (hopefully us on this list) likely made the realization that just because the copyright ran out doesn't mean it's musical value has expired. Some have realized a kitsch value just because its copyright _has_ run out. Some haven't realized any value at all. (I guess that would be the thrift store pricers) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DARLA : Subject: I hear good musicks, I hear bad musicks Date: 17 May 1995 11:02:54 EST Speaking only for myself, I have a number of purposes for owning such: I'm a musician that recycles culture, and use the records as raw material for sampling (and NO, I don't make techno so SHADDUP); some of the records I seriously enjoy listening to, some of them a seriously enjoy making fun of, some are both, and some I buy for the covers alone and listen to them once if even that. Those are mostly 60's records in the style of The Three Suns or many Jackie Gleason-released records. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Burch : Subject: I hear good musicks, I hear bad musicks Date: 17 May 1995 11:02:54 EST Not at all! I just got saw Crash Worship for the third time; they amaze me. Anyone interested in those exotic percussion records who isn't afraid to lose themself at a show will love them. I got Bey and Laswell's TAZ CD not long ago but wasn't terribly thrilled with it. I have a few other Laswell-oriented things as well. I order most of my listening material from RRRecords, Ear/Rational, Subterranean, and other more modern sources. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LEFFEL@scccvc.corning-cc.edu: Subject: I hear good musicks, I hear bad musicks Date: 17 May 1995 11:02:54 EST Not just yeah, but HELL yeah! My roomate's been turning me onto him, actually. I don't know much about him yet, but he seems kinda like the Sun Ra of Applachia. Woopin' 'n' hollerin' up a maelstrom of epic per-portions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoeBatutis@aol.com: Subject: I hear good musicks, I hear bad musicks Date: 17 May 1995 11:02:54 EST Probably because exotica is so alien to it. If I can't afford the latest Controlled Bleeding CD, a 25-cent record from the thrift store (or better yet, 10 of them) certainly are a welcome Band-Aid for my hungry ears. Many people are probably afraid because it _is_ so alien from what's out there, even from the stuff that's _supposed_ to be alien or different. > On a lighter note, I'm certain that in my discussion of "room clearing > music", I said that the room clearing possibilities of the music did not > reflect my own taste, but the music that most people wouldn't enjoy listening > to at a party. I listen to music with a sense of fun and adventure. The day I > have to listen "seriously" to music from "respected" composers will be my > last day enjoying music. Likewise. And hence, I've always had a problem getting into 20th- Century classical. Some of it's cool, but I didn't go to music school for a very real purpose: so I could enjoy what I listen to. My sense of humour means too much to me to have a sticky old education get in the way of it. :-) - - Mark G. - -=-=- Mark Gunderson, Systems Analyst markg@mark-ed.infinet.com - -=-=- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carter York" Subject: RE: Exotica Mailing List Digest V1 # Date: 17 May 1995 13:34:05 -0600 unsubscribe_Carter_York_exotica-digest _______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: exotica-owner@xmission.com Subject: Exotica Mailing List Digest V1 # Date: 17 May 1995 13:34:05 -0600 Exotica Mailing List Digest Wednesday, 17 May 1995 Volume 01 : Number 000 In this issue: Re: ESQUIVEL - Music From a Sparkling Planet Three Suns Asphodel Website Re: RE: Bad music Raymond Scott info Re: Raymond Scott info Hi bad music, briefly... Re: bad music, briefly... Denny Taylor & May Straight from Irwin's mouth Introducing myself "Bad Music"? Exotica's Own Two Feet badness as goodness [none] Exotica RE: badness as goodness Re: badness as goodness Current Exotica I hear good musicks, I hear bad musicks See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the exotica or exotica-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoeBatutis@aol.com Subject: Re: ESQUIVEL - Music From a Sparkling Planet Date: 17 May 1995 13:34:05 -0600 Guess what? I was at the WFMU record show (here in NYC) and I went up to a table that had the new Esquivel CD sitting right on top. I picked it up and the guy said "That's not for sale for two weeks"! How annoying! I said "I bet a lot of people have been asking about it..." he said "That's why I put it out there." I didn't have to guess that this was Irwin Chusid, the producer of the CD, who had a bunch of other stuff for sale... I couldn't bring myself to go through the vinyl there. (something about paying more than a dollar for a used record...) I was tempted tho' when I saw some guy with a handful of Moog albums... The place was a madhouse. At one point, I was scanning through these imported experimental CDs when I overheard this guy talking to the owner about these different groups. I cock my head to the side wondering who would know about this stuff and it was Thurston Moore! I knew it was him when he stopped stooping over the cd box. (the guy is TALL) Somehow, I didn't have the balls to ask him to autograph the promo CD I had just bought of his latest solo album! I also picked up a two CD Link Wray set from Norton, the Clara Rockmore Theramin CD (all classical music, very beautiful), and this CD called "La Musique qui fait Popp" which is this really nutty french incidental music written for radio and tv with tracks like "Java des bombes atomiques". Check this one out! very odd! - - -Joe ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoeBatutis@aol.com Subject: Three Suns Date: 09 May 1995 08:24:03 -0400 I just got a Three Suns CD compilation on Circle Records. It features some peppy tunes from 1949-1953. The combination of organ, accordion and guitar is very interesting (apparently the "new" hammond organ was quite a novelty at the time). The liner notes mention that this was Mamie Eisenhowers favorite group. 'Nuff said. - - -Joe ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: asphodel@interport.net (Erik Gilbert) Subject: Asphodel Website Date: 09 May 1995 16:06:04 +0000 We are proud to announce that the Asphodel website is up and running and waiting for you to knock on the door... Incredibly Strange Music Volume 2, Ken Nordine, Single Cell Orchestra, Throne of Drones and more... Also the site for the Asphodel imprint label Sombient (The Throne of Drones CD is now in stores) and sister company Sound Traffic Control. The site is at: http://198.207.163.69/stc/ Let us know what you think, and if have any suggestions for sites that we can link to. Look forward to hearing from you. Erik Gilbert Label Manager, Asphodel ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Watterworth Jay Subject: Re: RE: Bad music Date: 09 May 1995 19:18:26 -0600 (MDT) IMHO, "Berlin" is one of Lou Reed's finest efforts. Really captured the mood. But, of course, one must consider that I actually have a copy of "Metal Machine Music" and listen to that, too. As a point of interest, it was released after his big selling live lp and set a record for the label as the most returned lp in history. I guess the teenie boppers thought it would be more of the same. Jay Watterworth CU Boulder On Sat, 6 May 1995 TSturn@aol.com wrote: > Well, I found Lou Reed's "Berlin" to be pretty effective, but that's only > because i didn't have a copy of "Metal Machine Music" > ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cgregory@deakin.edu.au (Chris Gregory) Subject: Raymond Scott info Date: 10 May 1995 20:26:49 +1000 I posted a question about Raymond Scott a while ago, and mentioned a couple of CDs that my record store had listed on their catalogue, but nobody seemed to have heard of them. I went back and checked. One is called '1939', and the other is called 'Volume 2, 1944'. They are both released by Hindsight, which are distributed by Festival records in Australia. Hindsight specialise in budget CD releases of 78 recordings, so I presume that both CDs will contain much the same material as Restless Nights on CBS and Powerhouse on Stash. But I think I might buy them anyway... BTW, just who is this Irwin Chusid fellow who seems to have been involved with every CD I've bought for the last six months? Maybe if someone can provide a list of the titles that Irwin has worked on, I can save myself the bother of searching them out for myself... and has anyone suggested getting him an email account? - - --- Chris Gregory cgregory@deakin.edu.au ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dx@netcom.com (dx) Subject: Re: Raymond Scott info Date: 10 May 1995 05:53:52 -0700 > BTW, just who is this Irwin Chusid fellow who seems to have been involved > with every CD I've bought for the last six months? Maybe if someone can > provide a list of the titles that Irwin has worked on, I can save myself > the bother of searching them out for myself... and has anyone suggested > getting him an email account? Irwin is a DJ at WFMU-FM, and is in charge of the Raymond Scott archives. You can write him at irwin@freeform.wfmu.org or chusid@freeform.wfmu.org or irwinchusid@freeform.wfmu.org, I can't remember which. - - -dx ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil Levy Subject: Hi Date: 10 May 1995 12:10:17 -29900 Hello. I'm Stork. I work at WFMU in East Orange NJ where I work and do a couple of shows. Hope to get loads of good ideas. Mail me directly at stork@wfmu.org ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarah Pearson Subject: bad music, briefly... Date: 10 May 1995 09:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Scary Record Review part 2.5 I thought I should mention two Honorable Mentions: Fantastic Country Volume 1 (20 Great Stars 20 Great Hits) This is basically all of your "favorite" country songs done by no one you ever wanted to hear sing them, or anything else. The classic from this record is Lorne Greene's version of "Ringo"--- the back-up singers aren't credited, but they made this song what it is today. Lorne's deep voice echoes through the song, soulfully. Also, Sammi Smith's rendition of "For the Kids" renders your stomach non-functioning. For my own sanity, I have to believe that these were the wrong takes selected purely by accident by a drunk producer. This is _really_ BAD. Even if you dig country. The Love Album (The Great Stars Sing the Great Hits) I must confess, I've never actually put this record on my turntable. My thought is: Why tempt fate? With Jim Nabors' "What Now My Love", Patti Page's "Moon River", Eydie Gorme's "I Remember You", Doris Day's "Softly, As I Leave You", the sickly sweet factor puts plaque on my teeth just considering it. As the back cover says: "A collection of color portraits painted in words and music." *** Disclaimer *** If forwarded, this document should remain _whole_. All opinions within are mine, all mine. You're perfectly welcome to disagree with me. I wrote this stuff. Nobody helped me. Sarah E. Pearson ************************************************** n9048262@henson.cc.wwu.edu sarahp@spie.org ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dx@netcom.com (dx) Subject: Re: bad music, briefly... Date: 10 May 1995 10:04:24 -0700 Sarah Pearson... > Fantastic Country Volume 1 (20 Great Stars 20 Great Hits) > ... > The classic from this record is Lorne Greene's version of "Ringo" What's even scarier is the 7" version of "Ringo" that has the vocal version of the Bonanza theme on the flip. It's not clear whether Greene's strained vocals, or the forced rhymes of the lyrics are real the star. There is also a version with "An Old Tin Cup" as the flip. All taken, I assume, from the Bonanza LP. - - -dx ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mythosound@aol.com Subject: Denny Date: 10 May 1995 18:40:06 -0400 Hi ! I'm (desperately) trying to find as much as I can about Japanese CD releases of Exotica classics, but the information is very difficult to come by. I have the following Japanese CD's : Martin Denny : The Exotic Sounds (The Very Best of Martin Denny ) Martin Denny : Exotica 90 Martin Denny : Hypnotique Martin Denny : Quiet Village Various Artists: The Very Best of The Exotic Sounds I've heard that there are probably more, including a Sondi Sodsai CD. Anything by Denny, Les Baxter etc would be damned welcome ! Anybody out there have any information ? I particularly need a source to purchase such material. Anybody know of any "into space" type CD's out there (Russ Garcia etc) ? Incidentally, a friend of mine (Stuart Swezey at Amok) who put together the Rhino Danny CD, is working on a CD of early Moog tracks, should be the first in a series of releases to include exotica. More as and when it happens. All for now. B. ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TP Uschanov Subject: Taylor & May Date: 11 May 1995 21:17:08 +0300 (EET DST) > speaking of Mancini, I just listened to a great album called "Terribly > Sophisticated Songs-a collection of unpopular songs for popular people". > There is no artist listed on the cover, only on the label do you see that > it is with orchestra coneducted by Henry Mancini. The songs were written > by Irving Taylor and include such sophisticated hits as "When the Crab > Grass Blooms Again","I'll Never Forget Those Unforgettable Never To Be > Forgotten Memories","I'm Filled with that Empty Feeling" to mention a > few. It's Warner Bros. BS1210 from 1958, so it may not be to easy to > find. This is listed as by Taylor & May on the liner of 'Spike Jones in Hi-Fi' on Warner Brothers. This is to say the LP has a type of 'cross-label promotion' Lazlo Nibble reported on 'We Wish You a Merry Christmas'. I don't think it was merely a Christmas good cheer from WB; I also remember having, as a kid, an Everly Bros. album that had similar ads, Mark Dinning for one. BTW, other recommendations on the Spike LP include his 'Dinner Music...' on Verve, and 'Music to Be Murdered by' by Alfred Hitchcock, on Imperial! Does this last one really exist?? T P Uschanov uschanov@cc.joensuu.fi ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AMcCon@aol.com Subject: Straight from Irwin's mouth Date: 12 May 1995 11:39:07 -0400 Been meaning to post this for a few days, but only now have the moment to do so... I met Irwin Chusid at the WFMU Record Fair last weekend when I (stupidly) tried to buy his display copy of MUSIC FOR A SPARKLING PLANET, the new Bar None Esquivel compilation. He shared some interesting info: For one thing, he said there will be a third Esquivel comp from Bar None some months after the new one. He also said don't expect Reprise to actually ship Esquivel's MORE OF OTHER WORLDS, OTHER SOUNDS in June as was posted in ICE and here on the Exotica list. He told me there has been an ongoing search to determine who exactly owns this material -- neither Reprise nor Esquivel "has the paper," as Irwin put it ("Esquivel wasn't much of a businessman. Quite a drinker, but not a businessman.") In the meantime, Reprise continues to announce it, but can't actually put the damned thing out 'til this is ironed out. The Record Fair was great for vinyl collectors, but a bit disappointing for us pathetic, despised CD listeners. The best CD stuff was at the WFMU table, where I picked up Clara Rockmore's theramin album, so not a total loss. Arn McConnell AMcCon@aol.com ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CXWS000 Subject: Introducing myself Date: 14 May 1995 22:02:35 EDT I've been lurking silently behind this list for too long, and thought I should introduce myself. I've joined and dropped a dozen music lists over the last year, and this is the only one I'm going to stick with. I've been collecting exotic records for over 20 years, alongside more respectable tastes which have run from punk through torch singing and house music. My collecting tastes run especially to jazz tv and film soundtracks of the 1950s, A&M-type "adult" music of the mid and late 1960s, beatnik novelty records, soundtracks of the 1960s which are high on European sophistication, and so on. A particular subspeciality I've been developing has to do with Quebec-based exotica. In the 1960s, and right through the1970s, there was an indigenous industry producing instrumental and mood music albums. A fellow named Lucien Hetu (whom rumor has it was eventually caught child-molesting) was the preeminent figure in this scene, and there are literally dozens of his titles scattered throughout every flea market and second hand store in Montreal. My favourite -- with which I won a "worst record" contest in the mid 1970s -- is Lucien Hetu joue Les Monkees, the cover of which has Lucien playing his organ while a badly cut-out Monkees dance in miniature on his instrument. A related sideline, which I've begun pursuing only recently, is records brought out in Montrea to capitalize on Expo 67, the very successful world's fair. It seems every bad organist in the world made their way to Expo, set up shop outdoors, and played for the crowds. In many cases, as well, they brought out records which offer versions of songs big at the time -- A Man and a Woman, Girl From Impanema and so on. My favourite recent purchases -- unrelated to these interests -- are Capitol records sent to Easy Listening stations in the mid 1960s, several of which I came across a few months ago. I also have been stumbling on literally dozens of mood music albums for filmmakers and tv stations (most of them from the early 1970s) which seem to have been unloaded on every second hand record store in town. Anyway, that's who I am. Will Straw ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John McMahon Subject: "Bad Music"? Date: 16 May 1995 19:56:05 EDT Exoticists: I've been lurking on this list (which has been pretty sparsely posted-to, until recently) and thought I'd weigh in with an opinion or two... Like, I suspect, many of you, my introduction to the concept of "Exotica" was through the Rhino Martin Denny collection (which I picked up used for $5.00 at my local "hip" record shop. The clerk snorted with derision when I went to pay for it.), and through the first "Incredibly Strange Music" volume. I've followed some of the discussion, particularly appreciations of previously underappreciated bargains, with interest. I am, however, disturbed by a thread that seems to keep coming back. This is the notion that some of this music (or all of this music!) is in some sense "bad", suitable only for clearing rooms of unwanted guests. I find this posture of liking music for its "camp" value, for the "so bad it's good" quality it may posses, distasteful. It condescends to the cultures which produced these musics. To hold, for instance, the music of African-American musician Anthony Braxton, a serious composer, highly respected around the world, up to ridicule as a way of ending a party, seems to me to be boorish and philistine. So much of what is discussed on "exotica" has been neglected, not because of any inherent inferiority, but because it ran counter to the rock music juggernaut which has maintained a stranglehold on popular musical taste for much of the history of recorded music. That that stranglehold is being loosened is a good sign; the cultural imperialism which bolstered that hold is slower to die. The music of Martin Denny (and countless others) is great on its own terms, and not because it may make some of us feel smugly confident of the excellence of our musical tastes. To what extent do we like this music, and to what extent do we hold a posture of liking it as some kind of perverse statement of alienation from the prevailing tastes of our time? How much of our like for "exotica" is an attention getting pose? This is not intended in ANY way as a flame. I've enjoyed these discussions, and hope to keep them going. Cheers, John McMahon ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DARLA Subject: Exotica's Own Two Feet Date: 16 May 1995 22:12:11 -0500 (EST) Thanks John for that post in protest to the often-questionable stance on Exotica as "bad", or "so bad it's good". I, too have been in the wings of this list for a little while now, and have not felt terribly compelled to post anything yet. But to add to the chorus of of us who truly appreciate and even take the stuff seriously, I invite people to start more a discussion on the topic. Although I feel strangely protective of my work and opinions, I will now admit that I have just completeted my senior thesis on the stuff, and thereby take it very seriously. I'm not really ready to disclose my document to the world - it needs some more thought and refining - but I would be happy to talk with any of you about my take on the genre. I'd like to say that I don't think that using the stuff to clear rooms or treating it as "so bad it's good" is necessarily disrespectful. On the contrary, none of us would own such strange records unless we valued them for reasons beyond frightening our friends. No reason to get offended over the ulterior use of unusual music. Still: one must realize that all of the music we have been discussing here was produced if not in all seriousness, then at least in a cultural context that accepted such things. That's gotta get you thinking. Anyway, just adding my two cents. I'd be fascinated to hear what people think about the good/bad debate and other related topics. Chandra crtobey@amherst.edu ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MATTURRI Subject: badness as goodness Date: 17 May 1995 01:10:22 EST There is an aesthetics of schlock that's not entirely unrelated to some of the aesthetics of exotica. Mistakes, misused conventions, cross-cultural misinterpretations, and so on can be very beautifully whether or not they are intended. I've never understood going to bad movies or listening to bad msuic just to feel superior. Merely stupid or bad work is just boring. The aesthetics of schlock may be as demanding as the aesthetics of 'high art'. On the other hand, even while appreciating some of this stuff you can't help but smiling at it. In fact probably it's the complicated reaction to this type of work that makes it interesting. John M. ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Burch Subject: [none] Date: 17 May 1995 02:29:36 -1000 Schlock is OK every now and then, I just don't think it should form the core of ones' collection. I can't relate to Denny or Lyman, although I used to bodyboard at Lyman's in Kona, HI where his mansion residess. I am interested in current exotica, not dusty vinyl from the Salvation Army. Does anyone out there listen to: Hector Zazou Crash Worship Exodus Quartet Nighttrains Praxis Hakim Bey Any Bill Laswell (Axiom) production etc. Am I in the wrong group? PS--MONDO 2000 had a good interview of Laswell called "Purity and Danger" which also features discussion of Bey' strategy of TAZ--temporary autonomous zones. - - ====================================================================== "I am rhythm. I am the juice of all your religions. I am the slippery foundation of all your scientific laws. I am the pulsation which drives the drumwork of creation. I am eternally self-renewing and you are free to dance in and out of my grasp."--Principia Rhythmystica _____________________________________________________________________________ ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoeBatutis@aol.com Subject: Exotica Date: 17 May 1995 08:55:56 -0400 I see a difference in peoples interest in exotica and their interest in "bad" movies. I've always thought that part of the reason people liked bad movies was that they could see "behind the curtain". By that I mean that the construction of the film is brought to the viewers attention because it is badly constructed. A great film has a seamless quality that even makes filmakers forget that it's a bunch of film and sound edited together. I personally value both bad film and good film. Exotica, on the other hand, is usually contructed very well. It's the choices that the composer or arranger used that some people would find bad. I don't share the idea that exotica is bad. I find it more interesting than most pop music that is on the market today. On a lighter note, I'm certain that in my discussion of "room clearing music", I said that the room clearing possibilities of the music did not reflect my own taste, but the music that most people wouldn't enjoy listening to at a party. I listen to music with a sense of fun and adventure. The day I have to listen "seriously" to music from "respected" composers will be my last day enjoying music. I can't wait to tell my friends that I was called boorish and philistine through e-mail. Mr. McMahon your polysyllabic diatribe cannot mask your inner essence: you sir, are the zenith of pomposity! (No, disrespect implied) - - -Joe ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LEFFEL@scccvc.corning-cc.edu Subject: RE: badness as goodness Date: 17 May 1995 09:37 EST Good day, all My opinion on this thread is this. If I like the music, its good. If I don't like the music, its bad. By the way, there is very little music that I don't like, in one mental state or another. In fact, I take pride in certain types of music that I like] that drives other folks insane (or just away). This may reflect on my personality, but I enjoy the Legendary Stardust Cowboy. He's a GENIUS. Anybody concur? Rick ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: T P Uschanov Subject: Re: badness as goodness Date: 17 May 1995 16:41:45 +0300 (EET DST) > Merely > stupid or bad work is just boring. The aesthetics of schlock > may be as demanding as the aesthetics of 'high art'. Richard Meltzer makes this point at 346 pages' length in his _The Aesthetics of Rock_ (Da Capo, '87). My highest recommendations for it. > On the other hand, even while appreciating some of this > stuff you can't help but smiling at it. In fact probably > it's the complicated reaction to this type of work that > makes it interesting. Could there be an idiot savant (aest)ethic here? > John M. T.P. U. ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Current Exotica Date: 17 May 1995 09:17:35 -0600 (MDT) > I am interested in current exotica, not dusty vinyl from the Salvation Army. > Am I in the wrong group? Well, the primary focus of this list *is* the dusty-vinyl-from-the-Salvation- Army material. I'm sure there are other places on the net where you'd get more enriching discussion of Lasswellania than you would here. (Understand that I'm not trying to drive you off, just letting you know what the list's for.) Laz ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARKG@mark-ed.infinet.com (Mark Gunderson) Subject: I hear good musicks, I hear bad musicks Date: 17 May 1995 11:02:54 EST Gotta be the closest thing to a flamefest on exotica yet... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John McMahon : Subject: I hear good musicks, I hear bad musicks Date: 17 May 1995 11:02:54 EST Just an aside; I noticed that my thrift store finds got thinner and thinner just a little before the ISM release. For those of you who got the bug about then, have you had problems finding the real vinyl in your thrift or second-hand stores? > To hold, for instance, the music of African-American musician Anthony Braxton, > a serious composer, highly respected around the world, up to ridicule as a way > of ending a party, seems to me to be boorish and philistine. You're logic's fine, of course, but... well, not once have I found a situation where the phrase "boorish and philistine" has failed to send me into unstoppable giggles. > So much of what is discussed on "exotica" has been neglected, not because of > any inherent inferiority, but because it ran counter to the rock music > juggernaut which has maintained a stranglehold on popular musical taste for > much of the history of recorded music. That that stranglehold is being > loosened is a good sign; the cultural imperialism which bolstered that hold is > slower to die. Of course, when culture (and music especially) developed into the multi-billion dollar business that it is today, we were doomed to be fashion slaves and marketing victims, all of us. The MTV Monster needs its grist, and things like the music of old are prime cutlets for it ("You like THAT old stuff? Get WITH it, daddy-o! You're so unHIP!"). But that feeling existed long before MTV, really... MTV et al just magnified and marketed it. It's simply the desire for any generation to disconnect/disown itself from the generation before it. Mass media has also accelerated this process greatly, making music from the 80's "classic" even though a full generation hasn't yet passed. We're also just starting to see what mass media looks like after it's died. We go to the thrift store and wonder why there are so many copies of Whipped Cream and Other Delights and Frampton Comes Alive and wonder just how these millions of people could have thought this crap was so cool. To many of our "refined, modern" sensibilities, it defies sense and logic. Some of us (hopefully us on this list) likely made the realization that just because the copyright ran out doesn't mean it's musical value has expired. Some have realized a kitsch value just because its copyright _has_ run out. Some haven't realized any value at all. (I guess that would be the thrift store pricers) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DARLA : Subject: I hear good musicks, I hear bad musicks Date: 17 May 1995 11:02:54 EST Speaking only for myself, I have a number of purposes for owning such: I'm a musician that recycles culture, and use the records as raw material for sampling (and NO, I don't make techno so SHADDUP); some of the records I seriously enjoy listening to, some of them a seriously enjoy making fun of, some are both, and some I buy for the covers alone and listen to them once if even that. Those are mostly 60's records in the style of The Three Suns or many Jackie Gleason-released records. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Burch : Subject: I hear good musicks, I hear bad musicks Date: 17 May 1995 11:02:54 EST Not at all! I just got saw Crash Worship for the third time; they amaze me. Anyone interested in those exotic percussion records who isn't afraid to lose themself at a show will love them. I got Bey and Laswell's TAZ CD not long ago but wasn't terribly thrilled with it. I have a few other Laswell-oriented things as well. I order most of my listening material from RRRecords, Ear/Rational, Subterranean, and other more modern sources. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LEFFEL@scccvc.corning-cc.edu: Subject: I hear good musicks, I hear bad musicks Date: 17 May 1995 11:02:54 EST Not just yeah, but HELL yeah! My roomate's been turning me onto him, actually. I don't know much about him yet, but he seems kinda like the Sun Ra of Applachia. Woopin' 'n' hollerin' up a maelstrom of epic per-portions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoeBatutis@aol.com: Subject: I hear good musicks, I hear bad musicks Date: 17 May 1995 11:02:54 EST Probably because exotica is so alien to it. If I can't afford the latest Controlled Bleeding CD, a 25-cent record from the thrift store (or better yet, 10 of them) certainly are a welcome Band-Aid for my hungry ears. Many people are probably afraid because it _is_ so alien from what's out there, even from the stuff that's _supposed_ to be alien or different. > On a lighter note, I'm certain that in my discussion of "room clearing > music", I said that the room clearing possibilities of the music did not > reflect my own taste, but the music that most people wouldn't enjoy listening > to at a party. I listen to music with a sense of fun and adventure. The day I > have to listen "seriously" to music from "respected" composers will be my > last day enjoying music. Likewise. And hence, I've always had a problem getting into 20th- Century classical. Some of it's cool, but I didn't go to music school for a very real purpose: so I could enjoy what I listen to. My sense of humour means too much to me to have a sticky old education get in the way of it. :-) - - - Mark G. - - -=-=- Mark Gunderson, Systems Analyst markg@mark-ed.infinet.com - - -=-=- ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John McMahon Subject: No harm meant Date: 17 May 1995 20:43:45 EDT Dear Exoticists: Well now, I didn't expect to cause this much trouble! To "JoeBatutis@aol.com", my apologies. I used the phrase "boorish and philistine", and given the light-hearted way in which your original post was meant, that phrase was intemperate and inappropriate. You're right, I AM pompous. (Actually, I just WRITE pompous, I'm really a nice guy). I'm just a huge fan of Anthony Braxton and felt my hero was being slighted. Over-sensitive of me. Blushingly, I must admit to an analogous use of music for which I have, nevertheless, huge respect and affection: at one point I lived in a row house, and shared a common wall with a young married couple who were heavily involved with various conservative church movements. Despite their spiritually advanced state, they fought like badgers. One evening, wearied by their constant yelling, which carried all too clearly through the common wall, I sought to hush them, even if only temporarily. I moved the speakers of my stereo to face the shared wall, cranked everything to the proverbial "10", and put on my copy of "Hare Krishna" by the London Radha Krishna Temple. I hasten to add that this is one of my favourite records, so the opportunity to listen to it at satisfying volume while waging psy-war on my neighbours was TOO delicious. Friends of mine have used the music of both John Zorn, and Carl Stalling to similar ends. "Chandra " expressed similar thoughts to mine better than I did. Should there come a time when you are ready to share your work (when it's published, say) would you please let me know where I can read it? Thanks. Can I close by gloating over MY latest find? Entitled (depending on where on the box you look) "Explosive Percusssion" or "Big Band Pops" (Neither title is entirely appropriate), this is a 10-LP box of albums with sub-titles like "Exotic Percussion and Brilliant Brass", "Potent Percussion", and "Latin Brass" by artists whose names I have seen in no other context: John Evans and the Big Band, The Regimental Band of the Windsor Guard, etc. Each of these albums, it seems, was released separately, and later packed together in this mammoth set. There are reproductions of what look like cover art for the original albums on the front of the box. I've listened to three of the ten albums so far, and they are quite splendid, though they seem to have little in common but that they were originally released on the Premier record label. This treasure trove cost $7.99 at the Value Village in London, Ontario. This post is already too long. Cheers, John McMahon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: asphodel@interport.net (Erik Gilbert) Subject: Asphodel Website Date: 18 May 1995 19:40:51 +0000 Soon after a recent message was sent describing our new web sites, the server which houses them went way south. As of today, however, we're back on the line with new friendlier addresses: Central Node: http://www.wilder.net/stc Sombient: http://www.wilder.net/stc/sombient/ Asphodel: http://www.wilder.net/stc/asphodel/ Sound Traffic Control: http://www.wilder.net/stc/straffic/ Throne of Drones: http://www.wilder.net/stc/sombient/throne/ Incredibly Strange Music Vol.2: http://www.wilder.net/stc/asphodel/ism2/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Fuller Subject: Who is AOS????? Date: 21 May 1995 01:15:51 -0400 (EDT) Hi all-- I'm looking, not quite desperately, but close, for a group on the Natural Born Killers soundtrack. The group is AOS doing a song called History (Repeats Itself). The song is edited for the soundtrack, but is copyrighted 1994, CIM (Gema), used courtesy of Thamos Productions. Of course, I can't find anything by a group called AOS *anywhere*, which I would think qualifies them as exotica of some sort. Can anyone help me find other stuff by them, cd, vinyl, or tape ok. Thanks. Amy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Oppenheimer (by way of rpk@world.std.com (Robert P. Krajewski)) Subject: Combustible Edison Update Date: 21 May 1995 08:24:05 -0400 Hi all, Aaron here at CE HQ. I've gotten a number of inquiries about what we're doing, when will we put out another record, etc. so I thought I'd update all of you at once. Ready? Let's begin! We recently completed recording music for a film called "Four Rooms" which is a four-part anthology directed by Allison Anders, Alex Rockwell, Robert Rodriguez, and Quentin Tarantino, starring Tim Roth. The recording was done in Hollywood at Mutato Muzika, the studio run by Mark Mothersbaugh and the other DEVO types; Bob ("Bob #2") Casale recorded the session. It was quite a whirlwind tour of the whole movie thing. We're not sure when the film will be out, but you'll hear about it. There will probably be a soundtrack record, but we don't have a date for that either. Also on the movie front, we have a song in "Destiny Turns On the Radio" and a couple in "Search and Destroy" which just opened. Also, our video for "Millionaire's Holiday" appears on the Sub Pop Video Network vol 3. At the moment, we're on the verge (as in starting tomorrow) of spending some quality time at our favorite recording studio; we plan to have our next record in the can (as we say in the business) by the middle of June for an October release. No title yet... After that, hopefully, a stress-free summer. We have a couple of upcoming gigs: June 4 as part of the World's Fair in Central Square in Cambridge, MA and June 30 at Johnny D's in Somerville, MA. Most likely we'll play Providence in July. There are no touring plans right now; I'm sure there'll be some when the record is released. You'll be informed! That's it - Stay Fabulous! AO & the rest of the CE gang PS. I'm still working on updating the CE web site at http://www.subpop.com/bios/comed/index.htm - one of these days... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHAN@hkt2.pwv.gov.za Subject: Re: "Bad Music"? Date: 22 May 1995 14:10:16 GMT+0200 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John McMahon Subject: "Bad Music"? Date: 22 May 1995 14:10:16 GMT+0200 Exoticists: I've been lurking on this list (which has been pretty sparsely posted-to, until recently) and thought I'd weigh in with an opinion or two... Like, I suspect, many of you, my introduction to the concept of "Exotica" was through the Rhino Martin Denny collection (which I picked up used for $5.00 at my local "hip" record shop. The clerk snorted with derision when I went to pay for it.), and through the first "Incredibly Strange Music" volume. I've followed some of the discussion, particularly appreciations of previously underappreciated bargains, with interest. I am, however, disturbed by a thread that seems to keep coming back. This is the notion that some of this music (or all of this music!) is in some sense "bad", suitable only for clearing rooms of unwanted guests. I find this posture of liking music for its "camp" value, for the "so bad it's good" quality it may posses, distasteful. It condescends to the cultures which produced these musics. To hold, for instance, the music of African-American musician Anthony Braxton, a serious composer, highly respected around the world, up to ridicule as a way of ending a party, seems to me to be boorish and philistine. So much of what is discussed on "exotica" has been neglected, not because of any inherent inferiority, but because it ran counter to the rock music juggernaut which has maintained a stranglehold on popular musical taste for much of the history of recorded music. That that stranglehold is being loosened is a good sign; the cultural imperialism which bolstered that hold is slower to die. The music of Martin Denny (and countless others) is great on its own terms, and not because it may make some of us feel smugly confident of the excellence of our musical tastes. To what extent do we like this music, and to what extent do we hold a posture of liking it as some kind of perverse statement of alienation from the prevailing tastes of our time? How much of our like for "exotica" is an attention getting pose? This is not intended in ANY way as a flame. I've enjoyed these discussions, and hope to keep them going. Cheers, John McMahon MR ERLANK IS NOT WORKING FOR OUR COMPANY ANYMORE, SO PLEASE DON'T SEND MORE MESSAGES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONAL SERVICES SOUTH AFRICA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHAN@hkt2.pwv.gov.za Subject: Re: Date: 22 May 1995 14:10:27 GMT+0200 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id GAA02848 for exotica-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 06:31:21 -0600 Received: from relay1.Hawaii.Edu (relay1.Hawaii.Edu [128.171.41.53]) by xmission.xmission.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA02793 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 06:31:10 -0600 Received: from uhunix2 ([128.171.41.7]) by relay1.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <11335(3)>; Wed, 17 May 1995 02:31:06 -1000 Received: by uhunix2.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu id <97208>; Wed, 17 May 1995 02:29:41 -1000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Burch Subject: Re: Date: 17 May 1995 02:29:36 -1000 Schlock is OK every now and then, I just don't think it should form the core of ones' collection. I can't relate to Denny or Lyman, although I used to bodyboard at Lyman's in Kona, HI where his mansion residess. I am interested in current exotica, not dusty vinyl from the Salvation Army. Does anyone out there listen to: Hector Zazou Crash Worship Exodus Quartet Nighttrains Praxis Hakim Bey Any Bill Laswell (Axiom) production etc. Am I in the wrong group? PS--MONDO 2000 had a good interview of Laswell called "Purity and Danger" which also features discussion of Bey' strategy of TAZ--temporary autonomous zones. ====================================================================== "I am rhythm. I am the juice of all your religions. I am the slippery foundation of all your scientific laws. I am the pulsation which drives the drumwork of creation. I am eternally self-renewing and you are free to dance in and out of my grasp."--Principia Rhythmystica _____________________________________________________________________________ MR ERLANK IS NOT WORKING FOR OUR COMPANY ANYMORE, SO PLEASE DON'T SEND MORE MESSAGES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONAL SERVICES SOUTH AFRICA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHAN@hkt2.pwv.gov.za Subject: Re: Introducing myself Date: 22 May 1995 14:11:36 GMT+0200 Date sent: Sun, 14 May 1995 22:02:35 EDT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CXWS000 Subject: Introducing myself Date: 22 May 1995 14:11:36 GMT+0200 I've been lurking silently behind this list for too long, and thought I should introduce myself. I've joined and dropped a dozen music lists over the last year, and this is the only one I'm going to stick with. I've been collecting exotic records for over 20 years, alongside more respectable tastes which have run from punk through torch singing and house music. My collecting tastes run especially to jazz tv and film soundtracks of the 1950s, A&M-type "adult" music of the mid and late 1960s, beatnik novelty records, soundtracks of the 1960s which are high on European sophistication, and so on. A particular subspeciality I've been developing has to do with Quebec-based exotica. In the 1960s, and right through the1970s, there was an indigenous industry producing instrumental and mood music albums. A fellow named Lucien Hetu (whom rumor has it was eventually caught child-molesting) was the preeminent figure in this scene, and there are literally dozens of his titles scattered throughout every flea market and second hand store in Montreal. My favourite -- with which I won a "worst record" contest in the mid 1970s -- is Lucien Hetu joue Les Monkees, the cover of which has Lucien playing his organ while a badly cut-out Monkees dance in miniature on his instrument. A related sideline, which I've begun pursuing only recently, is records brought out in Montrea to capitalize on Expo 67, the very successful world's fair. It seems every bad organist in the world made their way to Expo, set up shop outdoors, and played for the crowds. In many cases, as well, they brought out records which offer versions of songs big at the time -- A Man and a Woman, Girl From Impanema and so on. My favourite recent purchases -- unrelated to these interests -- are Capitol records sent to Easy Listening stations in the mid 1960s, several of which I came across a few months ago. I also have been stumbling on literally dozens of mood music albums for filmmakers and tv stations (most of them from the early 1970s) which seem to have been unloaded on every second hand record store in town. Anyway, that's who I am. Will Straw MR ERLANK IS NOT WORKING FOR OUR COMPANY ANYMORE, SO PLEASE DON'T SEND MORE MESSAGES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONAL SERVICES SOUTH AFRICA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Web Page Date: 23 May 1995 20:37:18 -0600 (MDT) I've finally put the Exotica list's web page up: http://www.rt66.com/lazlo/Lists/Exotica.html Laz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: asphodel@interport.net (Erik Gilbert) Subject: POWERHOUSE - EXOTICA AND BEYOND Date: 24 May 1995 23:54:46 +0000 New quarterly magazine dedicated to ALL willfully unusual/incredibly strange/roomate-maddening music. First issue: LES BAXTER'S MOST IN-DEPTH INTERVIEW EVER!! PLUS STAN RIDGWAY/ DESI ARNAZ/ KLEZMER REISSUES! IT'S ALL HERE! UPCOMING ISSUES- Burt Bacharch/ Carla Bley/ The World of Irwin Chusid/ A mind-bogglingly in-depth bio of Mickey Katz/ MSR Records Wanna know more? Send SASE to Skip Heller Music PO Box 31609 Phila PA 19106 Coming this summer-- LES BAXTER LIVE IN 1961 10" LP produced by SH and Joe Sehee. So as you can see, we're dead serious, slavish in our devotion, and ready to take out personal ads seeking beautiful women who own their own Esquivel vinyl. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hksky@shore.net (Howard Kamentsky) Subject: Milton Delugg Date: 01 May 1995 21:01:46 -0400 Hi, Thanks to Kirsten for bringing up Milton Delugg, his first album "Accordion My Way-Ole " is one of my favorites, but somehow got buried beneath some of my Bossa Nova albums . I haven't played it for awhile and am enjoying it now. Here's some stuff from the liner notes; Started playing at seven became one of the best jazz accordionists on the west coast, became musical director of "Broadway Open House " the nightime predecessor of " The Tonight Show " and became a favorite as a comedian on the show and musical director. Spent the next 15 years writing for TV and Movies and then became musical director for " The Tonight Show". Along with DeLugg, Eumir Deodato plays some great organ , all Brazilian. Very Groovy Howard ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bill wynne" Subject: SOUNDS IN SPACE Date: 02 May 1995 8:40:54 EDT You beat me to this one! "Sounds in Space" is probably THE greatest stereo demonstration record. Crazy Ken walking back-and-forth across my living room floor. And a passenger train doing 90 mph through my living room. Great stuff. And the musical selections are excellent as well, from Lena Horne's "Day In, Day Out" to excerpts from Starvinsky's "The Rite of Spring." Awesome! (Hey, Mark - My copy is a bloody mess, too. But I listen to it through the KLH Burwen Research Transient Noise Eliminmator. This machine cancels out "clicks" and "pops" on stereo recordings. SAE Corporation used to make one, also. If any of you see one at a flea market, BUY IT. I looked in audio stores forever, but finally got mine for $10.00 at a flea market.) BTW - If you really want to make sure your speakers are wired in phase, the best stereo non-demonstration records are those great old Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass sides. My favorite: Whipped Cream and Other Delights. But any 60's A&M release will do. When I listen to these, I have to think that the recording engineer only had one ear, and mixed the channels one at a time. Bill Wynne wwynne@ets.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: whitley@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Kirsten Whitley) Subject: Re: MOOG Date: 02 May 1995 09:38:44 +0600 > I'm not sure if I sent a message here about this or not, but. I was wondering > if anybody out there caught the online session with Robert Moog and the folks > from RE:SEARCH on SonicNet in NYC. If so, would anybody have a transcription? > Oh, yeah Jello Biafra was there, too. > -Joe > I have a copy of the transcript. You can check it out at http://www.vuse.vanderbilt.edu/~whitley/research.txt This copy is courtesy of SonicNet BBS, and I've included relevant email addresses. The transcript itself is long (22 pages), mostly due to its high noise to signal ratio. - --Kirsten ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARKG@mark-ed.infinet.com (Mark Gunderson) Subject: SOUNDS IN SPACE Date: 02 May 1995 10:17:50 EST > (Hey, Mark - My copy is a bloody mess, too. But I listen to it through the > KLH Burwen Research Transient Noise Eliminmator. This machine cancels out > "clicks" and "pops" on stereo recordings. SAE Corporation used to make one, > also. If any of you see one at a flea market, BUY IT. I looked in audio > stores forever, but finally got mine for $10.00 at a flea market.) Lucky man; I'd give quite a bit for one of those... anyone else have suggestions on where to find these things? For that matter, anyone have any other secrets for getting the most out of your 25 cent thrift store records? I often wash them (just water and a rag will do nicely) but that's usually not enough. I've heard about these wet-playing systems but never tried one. > BTW - If you really want to make sure your speakers are wired in phase, the > best stereo non-demonstration records are those great old Herb Alpert and the > Tijuana Brass sides. My favorite: Whipped Cream and Other Delights. But any > 60's A&M release will do. When I listen to these, I have to think that the > recording engineer only had one ear, and mixed the channels one at a time. Yeah! I've noticed a lot of 60's albums like that; I think everyone was just so hip to stereo they had to hear it demonstrated to the extreme all the time. _Whipped Cream_ has to be the number one record to find in a thrift store; for years I couldn't walk into one without finding one or a few... so I started buying them. All of them. I have around 50 now. :-) One time in passing I spotted that it's been released on CD, if you can believe it! - - Mark G. - -=-=- Mark Gunderson, Systems Analyst markg@mark-ed.infinet.com - -=-=- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Malcolm Humes Subject: Moog, Re/Search, bargains, Theremin Date: 02 May 1995 09:20:22 -0700 (PDT) Whoops, I sent this to a bad address, so I'm forwarding this as is, it;s not a followup aside from the brief quote at the top... > > I was wondering if anybody out there caught the online session with Robert > > Moog and the folks > > from RE:SEARCH on SonicNet in NYC. > > This sounds interesting. Let us know if you hear anything that isn't > posted here. > > Speaking of Re/Search and NY, I noticed they had a NY address on a recent > CD or something; did they move to NY or open a sattelite office there? > > I had a good small haul at the flea market this weekend, finding a > Denny lp and a Lyman one, I think the Lyman is titled Lattitude 20 and > it looks like it's circa 1966 or so as it makes reference to a Lyman 66 > lp a few catalog numbers earlier. It has an interesting claim that it > includes Lyman's first vocal offering (guess this is before Hava Nagilah > or that doesn't count?) > > The real jems for me were a couple of lps that look czech or polish or > something, one from 1971 that looks sorta like a warped pop band but > the lead singer also plays trombone. They do a couple of covers of > US tunes but in whatever language they sing, and the stuff is basically > pop psychadelic stuff, not too much emphasis on the psych end of it except > for two standout tracks, one that starts off very very spacey compared > to teh rest of the lp and one that starts and ends with some of the > strangest female warbling that I've heard on record, reminding me a lot > of the sort of singing my ex does, can't think of much to compare it to, > maybe something liek Yoko or Cathy Barberian. The other lp was from 1977 > and has a cosmic cover and some name like Quasar and looks like the liner > notes talk about them wanting to berak off from conventional jazz > orchestration (my memory of the Russian alphabet and language is enough > to glean a few details, but neither of this list any city or country I > can see). The music on this is odd, a mix of sort of out there jazz with > hints of Carla Bley but a track or two that sound more like Doc Severinson > on acid, poppy jazz but with a slighly alien feel. > > I love finding old eastern euro stuff in the bargain bins. > > Does anyone have the specific details on the film on Theremin, like > who directed it, when it came out, if it's available, etc? I heard > it aired on PBS (anyone got a copy?) after making the film festival > circuits. Thought it premiered at Telluride or something? I'd like to > add more data, I'm hoping to update the Theremin web page I started by > adding more factual data, plus I have some more personal anecdotes > from my friend Walter, and someone else wrote mentioning that they > have photos of Bob Moog and Leon at some euro lecture. Apparently Moog > has contributed a bit to the Theremin pages bing built at Sunsite, or > plans to. > > - malcolm > > --JAA18404.799431448/emf.emf.net-- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ken Freedman Subject: WFMU's record fair Date: 02 May 1995 14:15:46 -29900 I just joined this mail list, and am enjoying it. I'm the Program Director of WFMU, a freeform station outside NYC that plays way way too much strange music. One of our DJs, Irwin Chusid prduced the Raymond Scott and Esquivel reissues. Anyway, we have these record fairs twice a year in New York, and the next one is coming up on May 6 & 7. If anyone is in striking distance of NYC, they should try to make it. We go out of our way to get truly unusual record dealers with truly unusual records. The record fair is at 440 East 12th Street in New York, 11am-9pm on May 6th, and 11am to 7pm on May7th. We also have a web page at http://wfmu.org One of the ways we raise money to keep the station on the air is through a record / CD catalog, which is on the web site and has some good stuff. What's the address on the theremin web site? - -ken freedman ken@wfmu.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: saxmania@rci.ripco.com (Sax Therapy) Subject: Re: SOUNDS IN SPACE Date: 02 May 1995 13:44:43 -0500 (CDT) from reading the posts in this list, I'm sure many of you would have enjoyed my radio show of the early 70's. I played a lot of exotica like Yma Sumac, Patty Waters, Sun Ra, Ken Nordine, 50 foot hose, Fellini Soundtracks by Nina Rota, lots of avant-garde German space-rock and tons of other stuff. I've started putting together a web page documenting those radio shows and I'm sure readers of this list will find it interesting to browse through. During those days not only was I getting promos of all kinds from all the record companies but I also sought sought obscure imports and all kinds of oddities like spoken word and comedy records, documentaries, sound effects....etc. As a result I have a good knowledge of all kinds of music from that period and am always willing to share that knowledge with other music lovers Have a look at the Triad Radio pages and let me know if you have any comments, suggestions....thanks and regards -Saul http://ripco.com:8080/~saxmania/triad.html -- ______________________________________________________________________________ /~(_)~\ /~(_)~\ II====== l =-} saul smaizys saxmania@ripco.com {-= l ======II \_(~)_/ web page=http://ripco.com:8080/~saxmania/A.html \_(~)_/ ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Whipped Cream Date: 02 May 1995 12:45:42 -0600 (MDT) > _Whipped Cream_ has to be the number one record to find in a thrift > store; for years I couldn't walk into one without finding one or a > few... so I started buying them. All of them. I have around 50 now. :-) Boy, and I thought I was being clever! But if we all keep doing this, eventually we'll own *all the copies in the world*, values will shoot through the roof, and each of us will be able to buy his or her own carribean nation where we can listen to "A Taste Of Honey" at top volume without the neighbors complaining. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com, http://www.rt66.com/lazlo) ::: Check out my personal music-for-trade list, now up on my web site ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: arthur@3sixty.voyagerco.com (rex c. arthur) Subject: hello, i'm new. Date: 02 May 1995 14:49 EST hi. i've been on this list for about a week now and i've quite enjoyed the few msg's i've received so far. my name is rex arthur. yes that's my real name. i live in new york city and work for a cd rom publisher called voyager. i'm an audio engineer for software and laserdiscs. i started listening to martin denny about three years ago and i've slowly been getting into other stuff. i'm very open minded but it's hard to hear new things without a "musical mentor." so i'm forced to just buy records based on the sleave. i don't really know anyone else who's "really" into this stuff, so this list is will do me some good. i'd like to start DJing sets of exotika at lounges and chill spaces here in new york, but i'm not sure if anybody'd be intersted. i found a week end flea market near my apt... so hereis a list of my recent purchases. i'm not sure if it's rude to tell what i paid for them, but i will. if that's a problem, let me know...... "Hi-Fi Organ Moods" by Frank Wrightson $5 a Mono copy of Martin Denny's "Exotika" $9 "Songbirds of America" (with a great picture book) 50=A2 "Hawaii Goes A Go-Go" by Martin Denny (has The Girl from Ipanema) $6 "Martin Denny's Sounds Visit Broadway" (has The Sound of Music) $8 "Songs of the South Seas" by Ray Kinney and his Hawaiian Orchestra $1 "Ping-Pong Percussion" by Lerner & Loewe (on Spin-O-Rama records) $1 "The Harmonicats in the Land of Hi-Fi" $1 over and out. - -r. arthur@3sixty.voyagerco.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Exotica web resources Date: 02 May 1995 12:53:00 -0600 (MDT) I'm compiling a list of Exotica-relevant resources on the net for the list's web page. If anyone's got URLs to share, please post 'em here or send them directly to me in email. Thanks, laz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Malcolm Humes Subject: Re: SOUNDS IN SPACE Date: 02 May 1995 12:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Hi Saul, nice to keep running into you in various forums... thanks for putting so much into your on-line archives, it's nice seeing stuff like this. Seems like just a week ago I saw you on the Cage list offering soundbytes of Cage on synthesizers via your pages. :^) speaking of 50 Foot Hose... they were a pretty obscure San Francisco band in the late 60's, a it more out there and experimental than most, with some fairly twisted homemade electronics. One of the founders (Cork?) fairly recently re-issued their lp on cd, adding a few pre lp single tracks too. He's now a well established neon sculptor getting commisions for thinsg like $250,000 projects for office buildings and malls, and he had a party in his workshop in San Francisco a few weeks ago with some live jams. - Malcolm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Malcolm Humes Subject: Theremin again Date: 02 May 1995 12:33:23 -0700 (PDT) > > What's the address on the theremin web site? > I just hacked a page together last week, did some Web searches and linked in a few other resources already out there, but I wouldn't call my page much of a "site" or sight yet. http://www.emf.net/~mal has links to my Theremin page and a lot of other stuff I have my fingers in: William Burroughs, Eno, Cage, Frith, Gong, etc... There's a link from that to a Theremin page at Sunsite that apparently is "unreleased" yet, under construction, pending some further materials via Bob Moog. Not much there. WFMU's rep seems to be at least nationwide now, sounds like it's one of the few non-comm stations to keep a good diversity and community focus through the years. Could be mistaken on station but I've crossed paths with a number of WFMU related folks over time; Dave Mandl, Tony Coulter... Keep up the good work! - Malcolm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dx@netcom.com (dx) Subject: Re: hello, i'm new. Date: 02 May 1995 17:57:01 -0700 i live in new york city... it's hard to hear new things without a "musical mentor." Irwin Chusid, WFMU. Irwin Chusid, WFMU. Irwin Chusid, WFMU. Etc. - -dx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarah Pearson Subject: bad album reviews... Date: 02 May 1995 14:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Hey, everybody--- I'm on another mailing list where recently we've been asked to write up our "top ten" lists of albums, and it got me thinking about my favorite bad albums of all time. I'm one of those scary people who collect really trashy horrible records on purpose, and I was wondering if I could post some reviews of really scary stuff here. They're at the very least amusing, if not educational. :) Let me know what y'all think. I'd rather not post them if people will get pissed off. thanks, sarah. ************************************************** n9048262@henson.cc.wwu.edu sarahp@spie.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David J. Strauss" Subject: Re: WFMU's record fair Date: 03 May 1995 00:01:47 -0400 (EDT) > Anyway, we have these record fairs twice a year in New York, and the next > one is coming up on May 6 & 7. If anyone is in striking distance of NYC, > they should try to make it. We go out of our way to get truly unusual > record dealers with truly unusual records. The record fair is at 440 East > 12th Street in New York, 11am-9pm on May 6th, and 11am to 7pm on May7th. You will, of course, post a reminder the day of the sale so that we can all run down there with our money hanging out of our pockets..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: asphodel@interport.net (Erik Gilbert) Subject: Research Date: 03 May 1995 00:57:46 +0000 >> Speaking of Re/Search and NY, I noticed they had a NY address on a recent >> CD or something; did they move to NY or open a sattelite office there? Re/Search 180 Varick Street 10th Floor NY, NY 10014 Tel: 212-807-7300 Fax: 212-807-7355 Email: research@sonicnet.com Not a sattelite office. Research is now officially in NYC. They moved here in December. You can get a transcript of the Moog/Jello/Research conference direct from Sonicnet. Email for more info. Erik Gilbert Asphodel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mal@emf.net (Malcolm Humes) Subject: Peter Spaleny & Apollobeat/V.V. System Date: 02 May 1995 22:13:12 -0700 Peter Spaleny & Apollobeat: Dama Pri Tele (plus a bunch of missing accents) is the name of the (czech or polish is my guess) lp from 1971 I mentioned earlier, on SUPRAPHON... the tune that kicks of with weird warbling is DALAJLAMA (dali lama inspired, maybe?) and the sound more like Diamanda Galas on anotehr listen, something like Wild Women With Steak Knives or Litanies of Satan. the 3 covers are Four Kinds of Lonely: Lee Hazelwood, If I Were a Carpenter: Time Hardin, and Death of a Clown: Dave Davies, but all sung in native language, not english. One tune sounds seriously like it clips "My Way" at least in melody. I feel compelled to perhaps scan in the cover photos - it's not outrageous, but there's a cool feel to them. Quasar: V.V. System, on Opus, 1979, is the other one, and this one is definetely Czech, and, wow, has an english tranlation on the back. The liner notes start: "A jazz musician usally begins to play on basis of enthusiastic amateurism - but later on life sets him before the alternative of either professionalization or choosing a non-musical professiion. The soloists playing on this record belong to the first group of musicians. Their ambitions in the sphere of composing, arranging and interpreting musci have not yet come to realisation. The music director of the Czechoslovak Broadcast in Bratislava Vlado Valovic has got teh idea to form a group directing its effort to satisfy the musicians' intention and at the same time to utilize all the achievements of the recording studio." [...lots deleted...] "The numbers of the V.V. System Orchestra originated from the attitude of the musicians to big orchestral jazz and were not motivated but other incentive. This record gives a representative speciment {sic} of the abilities of the soloists, arrangers, composers as well as the sound engineers and the music director both from Bratislava and Brno." The players are listed as being mostly orchestra musicians from those two towns. My other weekend finds included Another Taste of Honey by Martin Denny and The Art of Belly Dancing, by George Abdo and his Flames of Araby Orchestra ,which is unfortunately missing the instruction booklet. Teh cover suggests Bellydancing "... will tone up flabby and sagging muscles. It is an excellent form of exercising that will also help you relax physically and mentally from the tensions of everyday living." 1973. All these were $2 each or so, part or a larger batch of stuff including a bunch of jazz - 9 lps for $16. Usually he charges me less per lp, except when I pull out Denny, Lyman or Funkadelic stuff... oh yeah, I'm listening to a mid 70's Best of Les Paul and Mary Ford lp I picked up with tehse too. Cool sense of space in the recordings, some great reverb and mixing from one of the kings of early overdubbing. - Malcolm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jeff.phillips@rocks.org (Jeff Phillips) Subject: hello, i'm new. Date: 03 May 1995 02:45:22 GMT >hi. i've been on this list for about a week now and i've quite enjoyed >the few msg's i've received so far. I too am new to this list, and to the internet in general. I'm so glad to have found fellow EZ listeners who appreciate the beauty and wonder of the Severinsens, Wanderleys and Alperts of this world. I began my auditory career under the tutelage of Ray Conniff, the Four Freshmen and Hank Mancini and remain partial to their works (esp. as a singer), but have more recently been guided toward the more esoteric clerihews of Martin Denny, Juan Esquivel and Enoch Light. >i found a week end flea market near my apt... >so hereis a list of my recent purchases. >"Hi-Fi Organ Moods" by Frank Wrightson $5 >a Mono copy of Martin Denny's "Exotika" $9 >"Songbirds of America" (with a great picture book) 50=A2 >"Hawaii Goes A Go-Go" by Martin Denny (has The Girl from Ipanema) $6 >"Martin Denny's Sounds Visit Broadway" (has The Sound of Music) $8 >"Songs of the South Seas" by Ray Kinney and his Hawaiian Orchestra $1 >"Ping-Pong Percussion" by Lerner & Loewe (on Spin-O-Rama records) $1 >"The Harmonicats in the Land of Hi-Fi" $1 Pretty good for one who's just beginning! I've been tempted by that Harmonicats LP more times than I care to remember. How is it? That Ping-Pong Percussion looks promising, too. Speaking of purchases, I must tell you of my find of the month: The Ames Brothers "Hello Amigos" LP, with orchestra (in small print) under the direction of Juan Esquivel! Yes, it's good and yes, it's in Miracle Surface Living Stereo. Terrific renditions of "Brazil," "Perfidia" and "Besame Mucho," with some very un-Esquivelian (but good!) arrangements of traditional Mexican folk songs. I can't imagine what Ed and the boys thought of Maestro Esquivel; they're usually so calm and collected in their music ("Smoochin' Time," for example)...ah well. I've been looking for an LP or CD version of "Happy Accordion" (no artist credited!) for some time now, with no success. I have the recording on 8-track, but as we all know that won't last forever. It was made by GRT Music Productions in 1977, and contains the best EZ accordion playing this side of... of... well, whoever that guy is who played with Larry Welk for so many years. Hell, it may even be that guy! Which is why I need YOU to help me find the record. And speaking of 8-tracks, I suppose you've all heard about the new USENET newsgroup that's been set up by Malcolm Riviera, called alt.collecting.8-track-tapes! Now you'll finally have a way to unload your extra copies of Heatwave's "Central Heating" and the Lettermen's "All-Time Greatest Hits." Now all I have to do is persuade my sysop to carry it... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob HUME Subject: Re: bad album reviews... Date: 03 May 1995 18:55:27 +22304808 (WAST) Let the reviews loose Sarah. - -- Bob Hume ,-_l\ "WHEN I DIE DON'T BURY ME AT ALL PO Box 7387 / \ JUST NAIL MY BONES UP ON THE WALL Cloister's Sq WA $_.-._/ BENEATH THOSE BONES LET THESE WORDS BE SEEN AUSTRALIA 6850 v 'THE RUNNING GEARS OF A BOPPING MACHINE.'" ph +61 9 3683395 Ronnie Dawson. r.hope_hume@cowan.edu.au ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoeBatutis@aol.com Subject: WFMU Date: 03 May 1995 08:39:17 -0400 Yes, the WFMU record sale is not to be missed. Last year I got the "Essential Perrey and Kingsley" CD for $11.99 and the Eartha Kitt 5 CD box set from Bear Family for $40! Also, thanks for sending the info about the Moog transcription! - -Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: saxmania@rci.ripco.com (Sax Therapy) Subject: Re: hello, i'm new. Date: 03 May 1995 09:03:10 -0500 (CDT) > I too am new to this list, and to the internet in general. I'm so glad > to have found fellow EZ listeners who appreciate the beauty and wonder > of the Severinsens, Wanderleys and Alperts of this world. I began my > auditory career under the tutelage of Ray Conniff, the Four Freshmen and > Hank Mancini and remain partial to their works (esp. as a singer), but speaking of Mancini, I just listened to a great album called "Terribly Sophisticated Songs-a collection of unpopular songs for popular people". There is no artist listed on the cover, only on the label do you see that it is with orchestra coneducted by Henry Mancini. The songs were written by Irving Taylor and include such sophisticated hits as "When the Crab Grass Blooms Again","I'll Never Forget Those Unforgettable Never To Be Forgotten Memories","I'm Filled with that Empty Feeling" to mention a few. It's Warner Bros. BS1210 from 1958, so it may not be to easy to find. If I'm not mistaken, I think Taylor also had an album called something like "The Garbage Collector in Beverly Hills and other occupational songs" also on Warner Bros and from around the same time. If you ever spot these LPs be sure to picke them up. You'll get a kick uot of them......Saul - -- ______________________________________________________________________________ /~(_)~\ /~(_)~\ II====== l =-} saul smaizys saxmania@ripco.com {-= l ======II \_(~)_/ web page=http://ripco.com:8080/~saxmania/A.html \_(~)_/ ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARKG@mark-ed.infinet.com (Mark Gunderson) Subject: Stuff, stuff, stuff Date: 03 May 1995 10:51:44 EST I'm trying to pick an album from memory for every post that I can glowingly share with y'all; figure it's a good habit to get into, except that I have a lousy memory and will probably start repeating myself soon, making everyone think that I only have about a dozen records in my collection. I think I told everyone about the Silhouette Segments hippie religious album, so... HEARING DISCRIMINATION. One of the stranger finds I've made. I found it without a cover, lying seductively in a stack of forgettables and boy am I glad I picked it up. There are 6 tracks on it of "listening games", which you'd think at first is for children but it's not quite right... the production isn't flashy and bright enough for children, one realizes. The best I can figure is that it's for mentally retarded listeners... maybe. So what kind of stuff is on this? "Now we are going to play some games with our hands and our feet. I want you to listen to the music we're going to hear when we play these games. I want you to listen very carefully for the drum. Are you ready? Here we go. [cheezy drum beat starts] That's the drum..." The games have you opening and closing your hands to the music, hitting yourself on the head, lifting one foot off the floor and then the other one (Oof! Hey, can't I put the other one down first?), and all manners of odd things. It's the ultimate party record for a bunch of drunk friends, because... well, because it's not trying to be. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@Rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble): Subject: Stuff, stuff, stuff Date: 03 May 1995 10:51:44 EST Damn straight! I'll be sittin' on a veritable GOLDMINE baby, quite content to roll down the street in my hoopy boommobile blaring the "Bittersweet Samba" for all to wince. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarah Pearson : Subject: Stuff, stuff, stuff Date: 03 May 1995 10:51:44 EST Sounds great! And for that matter, I don't see why other folks here shouldn't do the same. Though I suspect for us, the definition of "bad" isn't the same as for others... anyways, a top ten of our respective Things We Love To Hate should prove fun. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: arthur@3sixty.voyagerco.com (rex c. arthur): Subject: Stuff, stuff, stuff Date: 03 May 1995 10:51:44 EST I suspect the ravers would get into this, given the chance... I DJ'd at a rave and played a TON of strange exotica really really fast (not sped up, I mean one after the other before they'd complete) and the kids got into it... in fact, I'll probably be doing it again soon. > a Mono copy of Martin Denny's "Exotika" $9 I guess this means the market of NYC recognizes the desirability of exotica. Too bad. I noticed when I got to Lunch For Your Ears a couple weeks ago that they have a number of exotica-related sections. There's no stores here in Columbus that do that... yet. > "Ping-Pong Percussion" by Lerner & Loewe (on Spin-O-Rama records) $1 One of my faves! Seek out titles on the Command label too. > "The Harmonicats in the Land of Hi-Fi" $1 Just got a Harmonicats as well not long ago... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jeff.phillips@rocks.org (Jeff Phillips): Subject: Stuff, stuff, stuff Date: 03 May 1995 10:51:44 EST Hey, I've already got my solution... I'm a home-taper musician, and one of my tapes (_Gunderphonics_) is packaged in an 8-track tape shell. It's "hinged" at the side label so that it opens like a cosmetic case; the cassette fits inside where the tape was. - - Mark G. - -=-=- Mark Gunderson, Systems Analyst markg@mark-ed.infinet.com - -=-=- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bill wynne" Subject: CAN'T KEEP UP Date: 03 May 1995 11:03:22 EDT I'm getting exotica-digest, so I'm trying to respond to everything once-a-day. - - Even though it's not "exotic," female pop artist and Beatles-afficianado Sam Phillips does some great ping-pong stuff for the 90's. Her new album, "Martinis and Bikinis," touts the Beatlesque stereo-separation model. Oh, and her lyrics are hip, too. - - Nobody ever refers to Lyman's first album, "Leis of Jazz." Maybe this is because he hadn't attained exotica status, yet. (No bird calls.) The album is almost straight-ahead "combo jazz." If you like Red Norvo or Lionel Hampton, YOU MUST FIND THIS ALBUM. - - Who was the engineer on "Denny Goes a Go-Go?" Maybe Mark G. or I will find a machine at a flea market that will remove the annoying CROWD noise from that recording. "Ipanema" is a Denny classic. If only I could hear it over the clinking glasses and drunken lounge patrons. Bill Wynne wwynne@ets.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: afo@hp-mpg.an.hp.com (Aaron Oppenheimer) Subject: Re: CAN'T KEEP UP Date: 03 May 1995 11:40:10 -0400 >- Nobody ever refers to Lyman's first album, "Leis of Jazz." Maybe this is OK, I'll mention it. It's a great record. I'll also plug Cal Tjader's 'Latin Kick' record to lounge-vibe fans; Tjader's style is generally more genuine jazz than lounge, but some of the grooves on Latin Kick scream exotica. It's on CD; if I could find it on vinyl I would because the cover is cool. Tjader doesn't get mentioned alongside other vibe greats, for some reason. I dunno. On a side note, someone told me that he would occasionally put pickups *inside* his resonators in order to enhance the tremolo effect - anyone know what recordings use this effect? I also have another Tjader record (can't remember which - I think it's 'Mambo!') on clear red vinyl - yeeha. Aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: scootwin@ix.netcom.com (Jeff McDonald) Subject: Re: bad album reviews... Date: 03 May 1995 08:59:27 -0700 Sarah Pearson wrote: > I was wondering if I could post some reviews >of really scary stuff here. They're at the very >least amusing, if not educational. :) > >Let me know what y'all think. I'd rather not >post them if people will get pissed off. > I, for one, find that kind of stuff entertaining. Especially if the stuff is really scary. I have a weakness for very bad vocalists of the '50s. There were lots of them, not to mention a slew of good vocalists saddled with the worst arrangements in musical history. Scott Winnett scootwin@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARKG@mark-ed.infinet.com (Mark Gunderson) Subject: CAN'T KEEP UP Date: 03 May 1995 12:17:07 EST > - Who was the engineer on "Denny Goes a Go-Go?" Maybe Mark G. or I will find > a machine at a flea market that will remove the annoying CROWD noise from > that recording. "Ipanema" is a Denny classic. If only I could hear it over > the clinking glasses and drunken lounge patrons. For what it's worth, a friend of mine and I have a long-standing idea to create a Milli Vanilli Live Bootleg album, dubbing crowd noise over one of their albums... So how many people out there have found strange albums later sampled by more contemporary icons? For instance, one album that I have which I think is called "How To Serve Wine" gets liberally used by the Beastie Boys on _Check Your Head_ ("Our evening began in Peter Seychelles' comfortable study in his New York townhouse..."). One stereo demonstration record ("Journey into Sound/Stereo"?) is the source for that "Pump Up The Volume" sample ("This is a journey into sound..."). There's a few other examples I've found; anyone else have any? - - Mark G. - -=-=- Mark Gunderson, Systems Analyst markg@mark-ed.infinet.com - -=-=- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Chilson Subject: Tjader re-releases Date: 03 May 1995 10:34:39 -0700 (PDT) I managed to pick up a couple of great re-issues (Fantasy reprinted much of there catalogue in the late 80s on vinyl) of some Tjader mambo stuff. Anybody ever scored the original Fantasy on COLORED vinyl? Coooooool. john ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bill wynne" Subject: Hawaiiana-The ORIGINAL Exotic Music Date: 03 May 1995 11:04:02 EDT Since there are a lot of new "exotica" members out there these past few weeks, I'll repeat my message from several weeks ago... I am a Hawaiian musician, specializing in the art of slack-key guitar, and singing lyrics in the Hawaiian language. (If you have to ask what "slack- key" is, it's probably better that you take a listen rather than someone try to explain it in writing!) Slack-key is becoming quite popular; my friend, new-age pianist George Winston, is an avid fan of slack-key, and has produced seven albums by Hawaiian slack-key guitar artists in the past YEAR! If you're looking for a new, soothing type of music, pick-up one of these releases on Dancing Cat Records. OR, buy my album, which is due out July 1. My album will be a mix of traditional Hawaiian guitar, plus more contemporary Hawaiian tunes featuring multi-textured vocals and overdubs with slack-key, steel guitar, ukulele, and some things you might not expect, all done solo vis-a-vis Les Paul. The album is on the Na Hanai label, which I founded to promote Hawaiian music on the mainland U.S. I will also be re-releasing old Hawaiian recordings, like Rex Arthur's flea market finds. If you have an attic full of Hawaiian LP's, 45's, or 78's, or see them when you're out scouring other people's garages, let me know. I have one of the largest Hawaiian record collections in existence (2,000 pieces) and am always looking for more, either to re-release or for my own personal enjoyment. Let me know if you want to unload anything of this variety, or if you just want to talk about Hawaiian music (the ORIGINAL exotic music...) Bill Wynne wwynne@ets.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RPPeek@aol.com Subject: Re: Tjader re-releases Date: 03 May 1995 15:34:15 -0400 Yes, I have the original Mambo by Tjader on red vinyl. And yes, it is coooooool! preston ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Chilson Subject: fred katz Date: 03 May 1995 13:56:14 -0700 (PDT) First off, I'm new to the group and all I can say is right on!! OK.....I've got a few albums by Katz (he did some stuff with Ken Nordine "Word Jazz"), the soundtrack to Little Shop of Horrors (which was also used for Bucket of Blood, The Wasp Woman, The Last Woman on Earth, among others--Roger Corman had the rights to the music and used 'em to the fullest extent!!), and "Far Out Folk Songs for Far Out Folks". I scored the latter at a thrift store for 5o cents. I've seen his stuff (on Columbia) go for big bucks. Anyone know of any re-issues of his stuff? thanks....john ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dx@netcom.com (dx) Subject: Re: fred katz Date: 03 May 1995 16:18:28 -0700 I haven't seen any reissues of his material. The only other LP I know of is Fred Katz & His Katzenjammers. Katz can also be seen "acting" and playing in the film "The Sweet Smell of Success." The jazz combo in the film (with the red-hot Martin Milner on guitar) play some Katz tunes. - -dx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Chilson Subject: Re: fred katz Date: 03 May 1995 16:26:18 -0700 (PDT) I also forgot to mention Fred Katz's appearance in "Jazz on a Summer's Day", playing cello with Chico Hamilton. Strange stuff. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarah Pearson Subject: bad music volume one. Date: 03 May 1995 18:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Here's the first installment. more to come: Scary-Ass Record Reviews Pink Panther Punk This record is scary before the first 30 seconds are played. The Pink Panther Theme song begins the record, but with a slight variation: after the first "Duhduh duhduuuh", you hear whispered: "Pink Panther Punk!" this repeats a few times, and then it breaks into a "rock" version of the song. Then it gets worse. A Kid Stuff record, this album covers "Call Me", "Another Brick In the Wall", "Still Rock & Roll To Me", and other wonderful tunes, all done by some random musicians. But Wait! There's More!...You get narration as someone puts on a French accent (need I say, a _bad_ French accent?) and pretends to be Inspector Clouseau, in search of the Pink Panther. The narration mostly consists of very transparent segueways - "Hey kids! Let's find out where the Pink Panther Punk band went to school". That wacky band just goes right into "We don't need no education..." As the cover says, this record lets you "Hear the Pink Panther romp through the Madcap World of Rock & Roll!" Homer & Jethro - Songs for the Out Crowd From what I understand, Homer & Jethro are supposed to be scary. Be that as it may, "Tooth Pickin' Time in False Teeth Valley" is definitely the highlight of this record, though the lines: We can't sing and we ain't funny Won't you buy this record honey Poor old Victor needs the money from "Settin' the Woods on Fire #2" are refreshingly honest. Their jokes during the "Sifting Whimpering Sands" are definitely whimperable. "Hey Homer! Look at all that sand!" "Yeah, and just think! That's only the top of it!" The Addicts Sing Profiled in Incredibly Strange Music Vol I, this album would be a favorite of mine---the cover is priceless---except for the fact that the title is intensely debatable. They can't sing. This record, which was done by nine former heroin addicts, has a drawing of a man's arms in the act of shooting up (the needle is imbedded in his arm) displayed on the back cover. The verbiage is also priceless, even given the fact that all drug-related words are in quotes: "fix", "junkies", and "withdrawal." As the cover itself says: "These men sing from the very depths of their hearts with a fervor that can only be described as 'pulsating'." *** From the "What more can I say?" dept.: The Arrangement and Care of Flowers - Constance Spry "This contrast between my autumn flowers and the old picture symbolizes for me the great change that has taken place in domestic taste over the years." Robbie's Yodel Club - Come to the Mountain "Robbie Schneider of New Glarus, International champion Swiss Yodeler & flagthrower, is a native of Zurich." *** Bullfrogs & Butterflies - Agapeland school children & friends A kid's record by Christians, this childhood classic contains a lot of talk about God and Jesus --- how the singers love them, they're good friends with them, they like knowing God more than various other activities, their hands belong to God, He made today in a special way, ad nauseum. But there are other, more special songs. Such as "Rainy Day Song", in which a parallel is drawn between Jesus (Son of God) and the Sun, leading them to sing about "Sonshine". There's also a depiction of the story of Noah, which ends with a comparison to Columbus' voyage: They were a hundred percent free And a new world had just begun. Needless to say, Noah, like all of the characters depicted, is white. "Practice Makes Perfect" is a song aimed to inspire the little ones to persevere and keep working hard at whatever they do. There are "endearing" mistakes made throughout the song, to encourage the kids. If I practice Love like I practice piano, I'll make others happy and better I'll be This singer is, of course, a girl. Do what others want you to, love everyone around you, and society might finally accept you, and then maybe God will forgive you for being female and let you into heaven. (sorry, feminist rant. If you want the source of that one, let me know.) The final touch is "Kid Talk" wherein a girl---who's hip to God---and a boy---who's not---"rap" to music. They talk about the Bible ("That big black book on Mommy's shelf") and God ("who's much bigger than my dad"). Hearing this, the boy wants to pray, and the girl lets him in on a secret: "If you want to you can talk to Him too"---"Okay!" Awwwww. (Side note: I know every word and note of this album by heart. Childhood is a sick time.) ...more tomorrow, probably. *** Disclaimer *** If forwarded, this document should remain _whole_. All opinions within are mine, all mine. You're perfectly welcome to disagree with me. I wrote this stuff. Nobody helped me. Sarah E. Pearson ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hksky@shore.net (Howard Kamentsky) Subject: bad album review Date: 03 May 1995 22:21:36 -0400 Hi, Speaking of bad albums, just picked up a copy of "Up With People" from the Schick ( as in razor co. ) television color spectacular. Reviews on the cover by Pat Boone, Walt Disney and John Wayne who states " There's a power in it which makes you want to get to your feet and start doing somthing for your country" This is a "folk" album featuring among others "The Green Glenn Singers" with Glen Close ( spelled Gleen on the back cover ). My favorites are; "You can't live crooked and think straight" "Up with people" ( I remember singing this in elementery school ) "What color is God's Skin?" "The Happy Song" "Which Way America" Howard Kamentsky ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: saxmania@rci.ripco.com (Sax Therapy) Subject: new sound polkas Date: 03 May 1995 21:42:38 -0500 (CDT) Here's my addition to the bad music list: New Sounds Polkas Gene Mitchko and his Band Family Records FLP 147 from the liner notes- This album of NEW SOUND POLKAS is a new concept in the polka field which has evoked great enthusiasm, not only among polka fans but also with people who like to dance or simply enjoy music. The reviewers of newspapers and magazines have most favorably responded to this new idea. All of the 12 polkas in this recording have been written to create a particular effect, the sound of which intro- duces each polka. You can hear the bowling balls go down the alleys in the BOWLING POLKA, the squad car drive up in the MURDER POLKA, teh fire engines racing in the FIREMAN'S POLKA...listen for yourself! Enjoy the fun! song list-- Telephone Polka Fisherman's Polka Traffic Polka Railroad Polka Murder Polka Ping-Pong Polka Street Digger Polka Rocket Polka Bowling Polka Bicycle Polka Fireman's Polka Baby-Sitter Polka I'm sure you can imagine some of the sounds employed in the intros. This was a good concept and I think Gene should have extended it a bit more and incorporated the sounds throughout the tunes and not just in the intro. Perhaps a remix would be in order. I especially liked Street Digger Polka with the band shouting out "Dig we must" and the sounds of jackhammer leading into a bouncy polka. Reminded me of Neu!'s "Hallo Gallo." Murder Polka has an interesting melodramatic sound. This is the kind of music a detective tv show would use if they used polkas. The copy I have is mono and I sure would like to hear a stereo version...... ______________________________________________________________________________ /~(_)~\ /~(_)~\ II====== l =-} saul smaizys saxmania@ripco.com {-= l ======II \_(~)_/ web page=http://ripco.com:8080/~saxmania/A.html \_(~)_/ ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AMcCon@aol.com Subject: Jerry Byrd Date: 04 May 1995 04:09:48 -0400 I recently found Jerry Byrd's _Polynesian Suite_ in a used CD store here and I love it to pieces. Marvelous guitar, kitschy orientalism and loping ez-listening rhythms -- what's not to love? All I know about him is the couple paragraphs mentioning him in the 2nd RE-Search book. Can someone tell me more, and specifically, are there any other albums available on CD? Thanks to all who are providing some great reading on this list. Arn McConnell AMcCon@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoeBatutis@aol.com Subject: Flight F-I-N-A-L Date: 04 May 1995 08:48:12 -0400 Speaking of bizarre born again christian albums... I've got one called Flight F-I-N-A-L that has a picture of a jet on the front. It presents a play where you are taken to heaven aboard a plane.... "We are now announcing final boarding for eternal salvation... " When you get to heaven it's just like all the descriptions of heaven you got when you were a kid... which is a pretty frightening concept to me... - -Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoeBatutis@aol.com Subject: New Sound Polkas Date: 04 May 1995 08:48:24 -0400 Guess what? As soon as I saw your message, I went to find my copy of "New Sound Polkas"... and it's in Stereo! I was surprised to see that anybody else had this one! It really sounds to me like generic polkas with sound effects added at the beginning and/or end. I'll have to listen to it again to see if they use the stereo for anything, like having the bowling ball roll from one speaker to the other. Ah, if only it was like a polish Spike Jones record... - -Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoeBatutis@aol.com Subject: Carpet Squares Date: 04 May 1995 08:48:28 -0400 O.K. Top this for a stupid kid's record: "Carpet Squares" that's right I said "Carpet Squares" In giant red capital letters on the back it says: "Carpet Square Music is Delightful". It's from Melody House and all the tunes have the word "Carpet" in them! Like the classics "Carpet Train" or "Sweet Georgia Brown Carpet Twist" (which oddly enough is a new flavor down at Ben & Jerry's) On the front there is a picture of a bunch of happy 70's kids standing on... Carpet Squares. They should have included a disclaimer: "This recording and it's producers cannot be held responsible for any injuries due to activities described in this record... aka groin pulls..." - -Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David J. Strauss" Subject: Re: New Sound Polkas Date: 04 May 1995 09:37:17 -0400 (EDT) Since everyone if list Polka albums, I'll mention a recent acquisition: Super Polkas by Larry Chesky and his Orchestra (which seems to be about 5 guys). Vocals by Regina Kujawa. On the Rex label. Kujawa's vocals bear a resmemblance to the lead singer of Pavlov Dog's. Or an overly neurotic singing cowboy soprano. Chesky is very mod in his tux, with his pained expression, and his greased back d.a. w/sideburns. Of course, the albums is from around 1972. Track listing: Beyond the Hills Polka (Za Gorami) Never On Sunday (Nigdy W Niedziele)--is there a band that didn't play "Never on Sunday"? Sparks of Fire Polka (Deszczowa Oginia) Mason Oberek (U Mlynarczyka) Father's Mowing Hay Polka (Kosil Ojciec Siano)--those Eastern European patriarchs; everyone in the family should have some mowing hay. Dilly Dilly Polka--is suppose "Dilly Dilly" is the same in both English and Polish. Raindrops Polka (Deszczyk)--Keep Falling on My Head, of course. Is there an album entirely consisting of Bacharach-David polka? Tornado Polka (Wiher)--the raindrops were merely a warning. Midnight in Moscow (Polnoc w Moskwie)--the Beauty of Brezhnev! Cowboy's Sweetheart Polka (Kochanka Gorala)--there's definitely a love/hate thing going on w/the West here. The back cover has photos of all sorts of Rex releases, including one by the 1919 Kielbasa Factory. Maybe it's Bubblegum Polka. DS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: saxmania@rci.ripco.com (Sax Therapy) Subject: Re: New Sound Polkas Date: 04 May 1995 09:35:07 -0500 (CDT) When I go vinyl hunting I'm always on the look-out for polka albums. They have some of the strangest cover art and song titles that can be found. A while back I was delighted to find a group of polka albums that were in mint condition, a couple were still sealed (I may have to open up the sealed copy of TV Polkas with Regina Kujawa after reading your review). What amused mw was that the previous owner had taped the cash register receipts to the covers:) -- ______________________________________________________________________________ /~(_)~\ /~(_)~\ II====== l =-} saul smaizys saxmania@ripco.com {-= l ======II \_(~)_/ web page=http://ripco.com:8080/~saxmania/A.html \_(~)_/ ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Tenney Subject: Re: CAN'T KEEP UP Date: 04 May 1995 08:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Regarding "annoying crowd noise": The presence of same is certainly the hallmark of playing live. Bill and other professional musicians such as myself can attest to that. Hopefully it would make the casual listener appreciate all the more how good players can keep on making good music under sometimes appalling conditions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarah Pearson Subject: Re: All vinyl bad and beautiful Date: 04 May 1995 09:32:30 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 4 May 1995, Mark Gunderson wrote: > > Pink Panther Punk > > Sounds not unlike Chipmunk Punk, which I'm sure many of you have > or have heard. Similar selections, even. Yeah, similar selection, but the similarity ends there for me. As the owner of alll the Chipmunks albums, I can tell you that there's a very standard formula for the Chipmunks. Dialogue is almost always the same. bleah. Pink Panther punk stands alone. :) One interesting thing that I've been experimenting with is playing albums on different speeds. The Chipmunks on 15 speed sound like people talking above really blurry music. The people's voices are almost at real-time speed. Most of the songs they do are in major keys, so it doesn't sound very interesting. But on Chipmunk Punk, "Call Me" is in a minor-ish key, and at 15 speed it sounds like Sonic Youth. I swear! :) I haven't gotten the cords & etc to tape it from that turntable, but when I do I'm gonna have a blast. :) Also of note: the Chipmunks on an earlier record do "The Leader of the Pack". Now, this is pretty standard, except that when you slow it down to 15 speed, you discover that the voice singing about the _male_ leader of the pack is also _male_. The Gay Anthem for the Nineties! too much.... later, sarah. ************************************************** n9048262@henson.cc.wwu.edu sarahp@spie.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarah Pearson Subject: bad music volume two. Date: 04 May 1995 11:24:59 -0700 (PDT) Scary Record Reviews, Part 2 Bill Cosby Talks To Kids About Drugs This wonderful recording's cover depicts Bill, just another regular guy, sitting on a stoop with a bunch of different kids. Aw. The "song" "Downers and Uppers" consists of Bill talking about these different drugs while the speed of the recording slows down and speeds up, respectively. High tech, man. Questions & Answers Dope Pusher---Song Bill Talks about Hard Drugs I Found A Way Out People Make Mistakes---Song I Know I Can Handle It---song Captain Junkie---Song I have to admit, I haven't listened to Captain Junkie. I need to wait until I'm strong enough. It's indicative that they felt they needed to make it very clear which tracks were songs. And lastly, a word from Bill himself: "A junkie never caused freedom for any people." Thank you, Bill. Buckner & Garcia - Pac-Man Fever Buckner & Garcia use the timeless melodies of various video games to inspire them to write, uh, songs about them. "Pac-Man Fever", "Froggy's Lament", "Ode to a Centipede", "Do the Donkey Kong"--- Ahhh, the eighties. The Odd Couple Sings Whatever possessed Tony Randall & Jack Klugman to do this recording, at least they can say they stayed in character for the whole album. Not only do they sing such classics as "Brush Up Your Shakespeare", "Together Wherever We Go", "The Inch Worm", and "Johnny One-Note", but they create dialogue before, after and during the songs to really claim the songs indubitably for their very own. Their version of "You're So Vain" is side-splittingly priceless & can easily match up to _any_ William Shatner song. But Wait! There's More....Side Two contains the Odd Couple Opera (for some reason they thought we needed to know that the original title of this classic was "Imagination"), wherein Oscar and Felix have a fight, decide to split up, and then repent. Their reunion is marked by their, uh, _loud_ rendition of "Friendship". This album is one of my favorites for scaring the hell out of people. Winger - Sahara Pretty standard bubble-metal fare. "Seventeen" is the hit, but this album also includes "Poison Angel", "Hungry", "State of Emergency". This record is notable only because they do a cover of "Purple Haze". Yes, that's right, folks; "Purple Haze". THE "Purple Haze". And they do a fine, fine job of it, too. The Shaggy Dog This record, made by Disneyland Records at the height of Shaggy Dog popularity, has defined for me exactly what a truly bad record is: unlistenable. You cannot listen to it for more than three songs without causing huge amounts of self-inflicted damage to yourself. This record is _horrible_. It consists of a man talking in a deep slurry voice, purporting to be the Shaggy Dog, Itself. The first words you hear, after a great fanfare, are: "I'm....a dog." It goes downhill from there. The first song, verbatim, begins: Toy Poodles: Did you ever hear a dog talking? Shaggy Dog: Oh well I did. Toy Poodles: Did you ever hear a dog singing? Shaggy Dog: Oh well I did. Toy Poodles: Did you ever have a dog love you with canine know-how? Oh it's so grand. Shaggy Dog: It's so bow wow wow WOW! Let's just say it gets worse. The cover itself is pretty interesting. On the back there is a particular picture of Roberta Shore about to give the Shaggy Dog a kiss. Now what was Disney promoting here? Oh wait! I didn't even mention the 16-page booklet _by_ the Shaggy Dog, containing mostly dog jokes (do I have to tell you that the jokes are terrible?) and some pictures & captions For example, a picture of Annette Funicello reading with the Shaggy Dog beside her says: "Besides being a famous actor, I'm a well-known scholar. Sometimes I help Annette Funicello with her homework, when I'm not busy advising the president and his cabinet or the scientists at Cape Canavaral." That wacky dog! Let's kill him! That's all for today, everybody. Gotta get to work. *** Disclaimer *** If forwarded, this document should remain _whole_. All opinions within are mine, all mine. You're perfectly welcome to disagree with me. I wrote this stuff. Nobody helped me. Sarah E. Pearson ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dx@netcom.com (dx) Subject: Re: CAN'T KEEP UP Date: 04 May 1995 10:09:28 -0700 From: John Tenney Regarding "annoying crowd noise": The presence of same is certainly the hallmark of playing live. Bill and other professional musicians such as myself can attest to that. Hopefully it would make the casual listener appreciate all the more how good players can keep on making good music under sometimes appalling conditions. Actually, I quite enjoyed the crowd noise when seeing acts like Combustible Edison. The clinking of glassware and the murmer of conversation is almost essential in creating the right atmosphere. - -dx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OttovS@aol.com Subject: Re: CAN'T KEEP UP Date: 05 May 1995 05:16:57 -0400 couldn't help but noticing that Arthur Lyman's Leis of Jazz as his first I believe his first lp is Taboo, then Bwana a both very exotica and borrowing from Denny's reportoire. Then came Hawaiian Sunset which was very mellow and piano oriented I can't find my Leis of jazz right now but Lyman started his solo areer in late '58 so if Leis has a date on it you get an idea of where it falls ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoeBatutis@aol.com Subject: Exotica Reissues Date: 05 May 1995 08:37:24 -0400 From the SonicNet ISM online event: Irwin Chusid mentioned a few exotica reissues that he is producing beyond the 2nd Esquivel compilation on Bar/None. He is producing "3 albums of Space Age Pop for RCA: they'll include Bob Thompson, Esquivel, 3 Suns, Henri Rene, Mancini, Bernie Green." And he is also doing a comp for Rhino called "Cocktail Mix" featuring: 3 Suns, Bob Thompson, Russ Case, Dave Harris, Lenny Dee, Les Baxter, Henri Rene... and more. He didn't give any release dates... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LEFFEL@scccvc.corning-cc.edu Subject: RE: Bad music Date: 05 May 1995 08:54 EST Reading Sara's Bad Music Reviews gave me an interesting idea. (great reviews, by the way) My question is this. What is your favorite recording for emptying out a house full of people. I haven't had to do this in a while, but when I was in college, the place would fill up with hangers-on at an alarming rate. Sooooo, I would put on the first Country Joe and the Fish album, and within three songs, the house would be empty. Voila! Also, the soundtrack to Roger Ramjet (60's cartoon show) works almost as well. Anybody remember this one? I really enjoy this list. There's a universe of bad music out there. Rick "Can't help about the shape I'm in, can't sing, ain't pretty, and my legs are thin." -Peter Green ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hksky@shore.net (Howard Kamentsky) Subject: Walter Wanderley Date: 05 May 1995 09:02:39 -0400 Just wanted to mention one of my faves., Brazilian organist Walter Wanderley. I have the album "Brazilian Blend", it's one of my favorite instrumental albums. Would like to find more gems like this, was wondering if anyone out there has a discography of his work and if there are any other organists with a similar sound. Howard Kamentsky ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: saxmania@rci.ripco.com (Sax Therapy) Subject: Re: Bad music Date: 05 May 1995 08:27:40 -0500 (CDT) > > > > Reading Sara's Bad Music Reviews gave me an interesting idea. > (great reviews, by the way) > > My question is this. What is your favorite recording for emptying out > a house full of people. I haven't had to do this in a while, but when > I was in college, the place would fill up with hangers-on at an alarming > rate. Sooooo, I would put on the first Country Joe and the Fish album, > and within three songs, the house would be empty. Voila! > > Also, the soundtrack to Roger Ramjet (60's cartoon show) works almost > as well. Anybody remember this one? > oh yes, Roger Ramjet and the American Eagle Squadron, how well I remember. I used to get a kick out of playing excerpts from RR on my free-form radio show in the early 70's....:) How about Wild Man Fischer? I think his record would probably persuade your guests to leave in a hurry....S - -- ______________________________________________________________________________ /~(_)~\ /~(_)~\ II====== l =-} saul smaizys saxmania@ripco.com {-= l ======II \_(~)_/ web page=http://ripco.com:8080/~saxmania/A.html \_(~)_/ ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARKG@mark-ed.infinet.com (Mark Gunderson) Subject: Music To Empty The House By Date: 05 May 1995 10:55:05 EST > My question is this. What is your favorite recording for emptying out > a house full of people. I haven't had to do this in a while, but when > I was in college, the place would fill up with hangers-on at an alarming > rate. Sooooo, I would put on the first Country Joe and the Fish album, > and within three songs, the house would be empty. Voila! I guess it depends on the crowd... a lot of my friends would stay and listen, y'know. If it's my black-clad friends, I'd probably put on some record of bad 70's music and they'd leave in a hurry, probably never to come back ever again. Actually, a more modern selection would probably work really well: TAGC (The Anti Group) Teste Tones. Ceaseless piercing high-pitched grating tones that will give you a spontaneous root canal. However, if it's the crowd that was littering up my place last night (and they weren't my roommates friends), then I might choose one of the following: Any Jackie Gleason record (especially the Music To Study/Eat/ Sleep/Procreate By series) Classical (they'll say, "Yeah! This kicks ass!" for about three minutes, then die) A spoken word sales/motivational album Stereo test records, like the ones with wow and flutter tests Americanized oriental music albums Herb Alpert... definitely Herb Alpert... Best Selection: A subliminal album with suggestions like, "I like it at my home", "My bed is very comfortable", etc. I'd suggest Hawaiian records, but Martin Denny is hip in the "modern primitive" crowd thanks to Re/Search. Kids albums tend to be fun for drunks. Polka albums and old musicals are too risky. - - Mark G. - -=-=- Mark Gunderson, Systems Analyst markg@mark-ed.infinet.com - -=-=- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Malcolm Humes Subject: Re: Music To Empty The House By Date: 05 May 1995 09:30:17 -0700 (PDT) This is a tough one for me, cause some of my favorite crowd dissipating recordings are actually recordings I like a lot, and which are kinda fun to zone out to in the wee hours as a party winds down... Metal Machine Music by Lou Reed (a friend of mine has this on 8 track, BTW) Faust/Tony Conrad: Outside the Dream Syndicate Diamand Galas can usually send the right crowd running too. To me it's not a question of bad, it's more an issue of focusing the right music tactically for the right environment or audience to achieve the desired effect. Good dj/programming for mood and setting is as important at the welcome and during stages of an event as it is when seeking the old stampede effect or grabbing. One of my favorite "during" the party favorites is a bad ventriliquism record, I think it's Jimmie Nelson, that's really actually engaging enough to get everyone doing really silly attempts at ventriloquism once they start laughing at it and listening. I wonder if there's such a thing as an exotica karaoke bar? - malcolm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Butman, Holly" Subject: Re: Music To Empty The House By Date: 05 May 1995 14:07:00 EST >This is a tough one for me, cause some of my favorite crowd dissipating >recordings are actually recordings I like a lot, and which are kinda >fun to zone out to in the wee hours as a party winds down... > >Metal Machine Music by Lou Reed (a friend of mine has this on 8 track, BTW) >Faust/Tony Conrad: Outside the Dream Syndicate If you played the Conrad/Faust disc in a foolhardy attempt to get me to leave your abode, you would soon find that you couldn't pry me away from your speakers. Just in case you were wondering! Holly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LEFFEL@scccvc.corning-cc.edu Subject: RE: Conrad/Faust Date: 05 May 1995 15:14 EST >>Faust/Tony Conrad: Outside the Dream Syndicate >If you played the Conrad/Faust disc in a foolhardy attempt to get me to >leave your abode, you would soon find that you couldn't pry me away from > your speakers. Just in case you were wondering! I'm not familiar with Faust/Tony Conrad. What am I missing? Rick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Malcolm Humes Subject: Re: Conrad/Faust Date: 05 May 1995 13:37:30 -0700 (PDT) > > >>Faust/Tony Conrad: Outside the Dream Syndicate > I'm not familiar with Faust/Tony Conrad. > What am I missing? > Faust is a crazed german band that gets lumped in under the krautrock genre. An experimental band, sorta primivite, naive, heavily influenced by early Velvet Underground and Frank Zappa, mostly known for thier output in the early 70's though the reformed and did atour of the US last year, dragging along baby sheep (lambs, right? Baby sheep just sounds better to me), talking to goldfish, sledgehammering pianos and using a jackhammer on an old rusty metal tank. Proto punks, these guys influenced Einstruzende Neubauten, Johnny Rotten, and left a lot in their wake. Tony Conrad is a guy who started out in the midst of the NY minimalist roots with La Monte Young, which had an indelibly influence on the Velvet Underground and John Cale. Young did one lp with Faust, Faust's thrid release but originally released under Tony's name. He's apparently been teaching video art for years in upstate NY and joined them for a reunion concert. the release is plodding, relentless and very reminiscent to me of the early Velvet Underground pre their first lp, rock and roll minimalism at it's peak, though not very exciting to listen to; it's like Eno's ambient music to me, you can shift in and out of focus in listening to it. the good parts arewhen you listen past the repetetion and the variations start to unfold. A recent article I wrote on what ambient music means to me can be found on my Web pages and addresses this idea in more depth, not specific to Faust. Tony Coulter (a WFMU'er, I think) wrote a nice article on them around their tour, which is archived online with his permission, at: http://prog.ari.net/prog/Articles/faust.article I bet Saul's probably got some comments and memories of Faust too. Not really exotica, but their early lps are exotic in my book, very strange and weird. - Malcolm http://www.emf.net/~mal ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Perez Prado Charts! Date: 05 May 1995 16:57:35 -0600 (MDT) Taken from rec.music.misc and this week's "Dominator's UK Top 40 Chart Analysis": > 11 NEW ENTRY : Perez "Prez" Prado & His Orchestra - Guaglione * !!! > > Now this *IS* a surprise and it isn't. > > It isn't a surprise because this tune has been used in the current > Guiness advert where a man jumps up and down, and dances a few ballet > steps before drinking his favourite tipple. The advert has been seen on > TV and in the cinema over the past 3 months or so, so the trend follows > that it becomes a big chart hit. > > Now, it *IS* a surprise that it's so big because it's been out for ages > already! It was out around Xmas, and failed to get in the Top 40 by a > whisker (No.42 I think), and then resurfaced about 6 or 7 weeks ago, but > only got just outside the Top 50. Makes a surprise for a song I like to > get high in the charts :) > > 10 NEW ENTRY : Bjork - Army Of Me * > > If it hadn't been for Perez "Prez" Prado & His Orchestra doing so > unexpectedly well, then this song would've won my vote for best single > of the week... As Dominator alludes, this isn't as weird a chart entry as it sounds; the UK market often takes a liking to a catchy commercial theme. Being used in a Levi's ad usually guarantees a song a spot in the top 10. :-) Has anyone seen the UK single? What's on it besides "Guaglione?" Laz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: truth and soul Subject: Re: Music To Empty The House By Date: 05 May 1995 20:40:41 -0500 (CDT) luckily everyone i meet who hears "dream syndicate" agress yes indeed, all other music is pointless after that (except song cycle) t+s...... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: truth and soul Subject: Re: Conrad/Faust Date: 05 May 1995 20:44:41 -0500 (CDT) malcolm you're going to start a fight. tony conrad is raging genius, which is of course little known due to the practically nil documentation his musical work. this will change very soon, i promise you. by the way, LaMonte stole everything from him, documented in the first pressing of lamonte's book, but mysteriously disapearing later when angus john and tony were asked to "leave" so lamonte could take composition credit for work the GROUP (The dream syndicate) had done collectively 63-@66. if i may for a second be, well, not sure of the word, but here goes: it is not ponderous, nor ambient, i would risk to say you may be listeniong for different things. let it in the way it does. i have p[ersonally dedicated myself to tony, and will forever sing his praises. t+s...... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TSturn@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: Bad music Date: 06 May 1995 01:32:19 -0400 Well, I found Lou Reed's "Berlin" to be pretty effective, but that's only because i didn't have a copy of "Metal Machine Music" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoeBatutis@aol.com Subject: Room clearing Date: 06 May 1995 08:49:02 -0400 How about Captain Beefheart or Anthony Braxton? Although I am a big fan, Captain Beefheart's bizarre rhythms usually can jar people from their seats, but be careful: "Making Love to a Vampire with a Monkey on my Knee" -just about anyone would find this track entertaining. Yes, he is a genius... I have an Anthony Braxton LP that features him fooping and squeaking on a bass clarinet for a good solid 20 minutes... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jeff.phillips@rocks.org (Jeff Phillips) Subject: Walter Wanderley Date: 06 May 1995 16:57:20 GMT >Just wanted to mention one of my faves., Brazilian organist Walter >Wanderley. I have the album "Brazilian Blend", it's one of my favorite >instrumental albums. >Would like to find more gems like this, was wondering if anyone out there >has a discography of his work and if there are any other organists with a >similar sound. I haven't a discography, but DO have my favorite Wanderley album entitled "Rain Forest." The liner notes say it's his "first recording for American audiences," a Creed Taylor production on Verve, recorded in May 1966. It's got the best version of "Summer Samba" that I've ever heard. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jeff.phillips@rocks.org (Jeff Phillips) Subject: Re: ESQUIVEL - Music From a Sparkling Planet Date: 06 May 1995 20:43:18 GMT Just in case some of you cats don't get the alt.exotic-music USENET group, this was just posted hours ago... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: barnonerec@aol.com (BarNoneRec) Subject: Re: ESQUIVEL - Music From a Sparkling Planet Date: 06 May 1995 20:43:18 GMT Track Listing: 1. Cachita 2. Cherokee 3. 3rd Man Theme 4. La Bikina 5. You Belong to my Heart 6. La Paloma 7. Cachito 8. Granada 9. Question Mark 10. My Blue Heaven 11. All Of Me 12. Poinciana 13. Flower girl of Bordeaux 14. Blvd. of Broken Dreams Produced by Irwin Chusid Full Color Booklet, great artwork, worth every penny! KEN BECK I CAN'T WAIT!