From: "Chrysler Mighuel Stewart" Subject: Re: Hydravive/AOL Blue Rumba Date: 01 Oct 1996 00:37:21 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BBAF30.B4EF6720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Also, a new AOL ad claims its e-mail now is in color with pictures. If so, > then please, AOL users, turn my missives to green on black with a stately > rust tiki. Thx. Now I don't know about AOL, but Microsoft® users have had what's known as Rich Text Format for E-mail since the Dawn of Windows 95, and I've always been sort of curious what would happen if one were to send a message like that to the exotica list... Well, I sort of take the AOL statement as an invitation. (Perhaps you can notice that I'm using the commonly found Wide Latin fount, which has been over-used for a long time now, because it comes with Microsoft Word... Pity too, since so many great album covers feature it: Exotica, I, Swinger, Twist Party U.S.A. &tc... Anyhow, I hope this doesn't cause too much havoc... -Rev. ------=_NextPart_000_01BBAF30.B4EF6720 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



> Also, a new AOL = ad claims its e-mail now is in color with pictures. If so,
> then = please, AOL users, turn my missives to green on black with a = stately
> rust = tiki. Thx.

Now I don't know about = AOL, but Microsoft=AE users have had what's known as Rich Text = Format for E-mail since the Dawn of Windows 95, and I've = always been sort of curious what would happen if one were to send a = message like that to the exotica list... Well, I sort of take the AOL = statement as an invitation. (Perhaps you can notice that I'm using the = commonly found Wide Latin fount, which has been over-used for a = long time now, because it comes with Microsoft Word... Pity too, since = so many great album covers feature it: Exotica, I, Swinger, Twist Party U.S.A. = &tc...

Anyhow, I hope this doesn't cause = too much havoc...

-Rev.

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Flex your muscles somewhere else. ----- End Included Message ----- I know we're all edgy waiting for the Esquivel Christmas album but come on, can't we all just get along? The Exotica list used to be such a happy place... I'm not blaming anyone but there has been an awful lot of hostility going on around here lately. I thought we were supposed to be the civilized alternative to the great unwashed heathen masses. Let's start by displaying a little more civility toward each other, ok? Now, if you kids don't learn how to play nice I'll turn this car right around and we won't go ANYWHERE! Understand? -My Mother # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: Re: play nice! Date: 01 Oct 1996 09:24:49 -0400 >I know we're all edgy waiting for the Esquivel Christmas album >but come on, can't we all just get along? The Exotica list used >to be such a happy place... > >I'm not blaming anyone but there has been an awful lot of >hostility going on around here lately. I thought we were >supposed to be the civilized alternative to the great unwashed >heathen masses. Let's start by displaying a little more civility >toward each other, ok? > Amen -- this isn`t the Spanish Civil War here. Will Will Straw Associate Professor and Acting Director, Graduate Program in Communications/ Director, The Centre for Research on Canadian Cultural Industries and Institutions McGill University 3465 rue Peel, Montreal, Quebec H3A 1W7 Phone: (514) 398 7667; Fax: (514) 398 4934 http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/crccii/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: anita_serwacki@newline.com (ANITA SERWACKI) Subject: Re: Cal Tjader Date: 01 Oct 1996 10:52:47 -0400 >>>Cal Tjader has so many LPs on Fantasy, not to mention Verve (and probably >>>others, especially as a guest or collaborator), it's not even funny. For >>>once, I gave up on being the completist. Most of them go for $4-10. If >>>you're paying more than that, it's either a rip or a real rarity (Fantasy >>>LPs sold by jazz specialists can be high). If you won't pay that much, >>>you're missing out on a solid investment [in your soul]. Tony: I've only seen Cal's Verve stuff around and prices were at least $15, but usually in the $30 neighborhood. I'll look harder next time. My problem is I don't like to LOOK for records; I like to find em - and find em for under $2. Like the day I found both "Strings of Flame" and "Way Spaced Out" at a street fair in my neighborhood, in a cardboard box under a table - both mint copies - 50 cents each. Sheer bliss. Anita # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: anita_serwacki@newline.com (ANITA SERWACKI) Subject: Re: Bags Unlimited Number Date: 01 Oct 1996 10:42:13 -0400 >>>Do they have a paper catalog as well? I >>>prefer to see what I want before I buy. Bags Unlimited's number is 800-767-BAGS. Call em and they'll send you a catalogue. Unfortunately, they recently stopped carrying album frames, for those particularly unlistenable records with fabulous covers. Anita # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Re: The Great Vibe Debate Date: 01 Oct 1996 09:19:25 -0700 Let's get a little more jazzy ; Red Norvo Larry Bunker Milt Jackson Victor Feldman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: guinto@id.ucsb.edu (Marie Guinto) Subject: Re: Bags Unlimited Number Date: 01 Oct 1996 09:40:25 -0800 Unfortunately, they recently stopped carrying >album frames, for those particularly unlistenable records with >fabulous covers. Does anyone know if anyone still carry album frames? Marie guinto@id.ucsb.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: More Good Vibes Date: 01 Oct 1996 09:32:28 -0700 Emil Richards who started out playing beautiful jazz from the 50's and is also a featured player on the Surfmen LP on Somerset went on to do 2 fine LP's in the 60's with STONES and New Time Element both on UNI as well as a sideman with Hal Blaine (I believe) - Psychedelic Percussion Should I send this the way it issssssssss.......?????? Oh what the hell More Good Vibes as oppossed to say... Tony Wilds ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Where Tjader & Pandit meet Date: 01 Oct 1996 13:12:44 -0400 Rather than respond to and perpetuate the nonsense at hand, the following: There was this table of a thousand or so jazz LPs, a high percentage of which were on the Fantasy label (many Tjaders and Joe Locos). It seemed the better part of the catalog was before me. I looked at the dealer. Though dealer to the jazzbos, he was a shmuck, one could tell right off. But I had to ask. "Ever pick up any Korla Pandit?" He laughs. He sneers. He makes derogatory comments. He calls over to the next dealer (more an ally of mine) and asks if the fellow had ever heard of "Korla Pandit." More laughter. Heads turn our way. The reply: "You mean the Indian organist?" And something to the effect that KP's records now command extraordinarily high prices. A minor vindication for the soft-spoken, universalist Mr. Pandit. Tony "SABPM's best friend" Wilds _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: Bobby Hutcherson Date: 01 Oct 1996 13:21:20 -0400 At 09:30 PM 9/30/96 -0700, you wrote: >>Any Bobby Hutcherson fans out there? > >MAJOR fan right here (especially mid-60s Blue Note)! But you can be sure we'll >be chastised for straying too far from Exotica-land. This post never happened! > >Michael > And you're not the only one, I get into it too. Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re: San Diego request Date: 01 Oct 1996 13:28:46 -0400 Hi, Dan. Bags Unlimited is where I mail order all of my vinyl needs. 1-800-767-BAGS. They'll send you a free catalogue if you call this number. They're fast too. Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Sando" Subject: Re: Cal Tjader Date: 01 Oct 1996 10:34:25 +0000 All this Cal tjader talk made me pull out one of my favorites, 'Mambo with Tjader' by Cal Tjader's Modern Mambo Quintet on Fantasy (OJCD-271-2). There's a touch of camp with 'Sonny Boy' and 'Chloe' but also lots of swell dancable jazz that's very tight. I like it! Coconut Grove Media, publishers of MisterLUCKY PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 http://www.wco.com/~coconutg/ "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: springer@nyc.pipeline.com (D. Scott Springer) Subject: (Fwd) Re: The Great Vibe Debate Date: 01 Oct 1996 17:38:10 GMT >----- Forwarded message (dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond)) -----< Let's get a little more jazzy ; Red Norvo Larry Bunker Milt Jackson Victor Feldman Diamond- Man, you are on thin ice now... ;-) (all because of my thoughtless Hutcherson reference) Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Al Caiola Date: 01 Oct 1996 09:51:38 -0700 Al Caiola had a crossover hit onto the pop charts and sold millions of rekkids with Elmer Bernstein's (can't remember the title) though it was what became The Marlboro Theme. Magnificent Seven ?? I think that's it. Made a ton of records that are all worth picking up, some much more than others. He made a Sounds for Spies and Private Eyes that is quite great and King Guitar is also. Too many to go into but if the price is right get them all He is also the leader as in Arranger/Guitarist of the Living Guitars, all of his solo LP's as well as the leader/arranger for the Guitars Unlimited on RCA's Stereo Action series. He ain't no fuckin' slouch. If you pay any attention at all to my playlists you will see his name on most of them. He recorded primarily for United Artists though was a free lance artist as well He is _my man_ on guitar ;-/> Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: Hydravive/AOL Blue Rumba Date: 01 Oct 1996 11:56:31 -0600 (MDT) > Now I don't know about AOL, but Microsoft=AE users have had what's > known= as Rich Text Format for E-mail since the Dawn of Windows 95, and > I've always been sort of curious what would happen if one were to send a > message like that to the exotica list... Well, for starters, you'll annoy the people who (for a number of very good reasons) don't use Microsoft Mail -- i.e., most of this list. :-) Seriously, please do NOT send rich-text email, MIME attachments, etc. to the list . . . I'm *positive* I've mentioned this recently. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patrick@xpedite.com (Patrick Cashin) Subject: Re: Cal Tjader Date: 01 Oct 1996 13:51:54 EDT ----- Begin Included Message ----- All this Cal tjader talk made me pull out one of my favorites, 'Mambo with Tjader' by Cal Tjader's Modern Mambo Quintet on Fantasy (OJCD-271-2). There's a touch of camp with 'Sonny Boy' and 'Chloe' but also lots of swell dancable jazz that's very tight. I like it! ----- End Included Message ----- Anyone ever hear Cal's track "Fatback"? For my money, that's the one to find! I can't believe that didn't get included on COCKTAIL MIX VOL.2. It would have fit in perfectly. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clark Draper Subject: Re: Cal Tjader Date: 01 Oct 1996 14:25:36 -0400 Oy! I LOVED that record. It was too cool. I picked it up with "Tjader Plays Mambo" and made one hell of a fine tape. They were reissiues when I bought them in 1986-87 and were on red vinyl. Anyway, I've enjoyed the discussion about Cal, as he's one of my favs. Are these out on CD, anyone know? Though, they seem kinda short, time wise, to make good use of a CD. But they'd be just right to do as two-fers on one disk, and what a disk that would be! The "new" Clark At 06:34 AM 10/1/1996 -0400, you wrote: >All this Cal tjader talk made me pull out one of my favorites, 'Mambo >with Tjader' by Cal Tjader's Modern Mambo Quintet on Fantasy >(OJCD-271-2). There's a touch of camp with 'Sonny Boy' and 'Chloe' >but also lots of swell dancable jazz that's very tight. I like it! > > >Coconut Grove Media, publishers of MisterLUCKY >PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 >http://www.wco.com/~coconutg/ >"Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david.trezza@etak.com (David Trezza) Subject: Relgious Hawaiian Date: 01 Oct 1996 11:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Is anybody familiar with Bud Tutmarc? I picked up a few of his albums at a garage sale recently. They are mixed with tradional religious and Hawaiian standards as far as the song list goes, all done in a truly sedate Hawaiian guitar style. They are on the label Sacred. Look like they were released around the late 50's/early 60's. I dig them. They sound like something outta the One Flew Over the CooCoo's Nest Sdtk. Anybody have any idea of the scarcity of these and if there is an interest, other than myself, in Tutmarc? Thanks Dago D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Ledebur Subject: Stock, Hausen and Walkman Date: 01 Oct 1996 13:49:48 -0400 I just purchased their amazing "Organ Transplants Vol.1" CD (Hot Air #QRM CD101 - 1996) and I'm mighty impressed! Certainly not straight- up exotica or space age pop, but it sounds like much of the music is sampled from the sort of records that get discussed regularly on this list. Lots of dada-esque sound collages, but in a musical context (instrumental "songs" as opposed to a Negativland sort of thing). Does anyone know *anything* about them? They attracted my interest with the album cover and jokey name. I've asked people who *should* know, but all I could come up with is that they've been around for a while and that they may be connected with Coldcut. (Jill? Anyone?) In other news, the store I work in now stocks Dimitri from Paris, so I know what I must buy *this* week! Peter ----------------- MUSIC FOR BETTER LIVING with Valerie and Peter Wednesdays 6-7pm WZBC 90.3 FM Newton/Boston http://members.aol.com/Hifibliss/mfbl.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patrick@xpedite.com (Patrick Cashin) Subject: Re: Willy Wonka Date: 01 Oct 1996 15:10:16 EDT One of the women I work with is trying to locate the soundtrack to WILLY WONKA AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY and tells me she's had no success. Does anyone know if it's currently in print and on CD? Thanks, Patrick # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: Re: Cal Tjader Date: 01 Oct 1996 20:15:43 +0000 Anita - > I've really been loving Cal lately, but I only have his Best > Of album on Verve. I rarely see his records around, and if I do they > tend to be pretty steep. Any of his stuff re-released on CD? I have the Verve "Best Of" too and love it - Tjader's definitely my favourite vibesman (not that I've heard many!). I also have an excellent two-fer reissue on Fantasy called "Black Orchid". It's a reissue of "Cal Tjader Goes Latin" (1956) and "Cal Tjader Quintet" (1959) and it only cost me 8 UKP! Catalogue number is FCD 24730-2. It has my favourite Tjader track (so far!) 'Mambo at the M' - sublime. If you have trouble getting it I should be able to get more copies here easily enough. I'm pretty sure there are other reissues too if you'd like me to look out for them. Robbie Spaced Out - the Enoch Light WWW Site *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** http://www.cybersurf.co.uk/rcb/light/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Al Caiola Goes Hawaiin;-/> Date: 01 Oct 1996 09:24:59 -0700 >I spotted a big Readers Digest easy listening 10 or >12 record set in our local recorderie, and in the >listings one album was Hawaiian stuff credited to >Al Caiola and orchestra. D'you think this might be >worth getting? Hugh, If you like that Hawaiiana sound you just can't miss with Al Caiola in any sound genre really Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: because some of you care... Date: 01 Oct 1996 14:56:56 -0400 ------ It's not a Mel Torme update---but I know there are a lot of fans out there... Lounge Laura laura@wusf.usf.edu "it's just my nature to do weird stuff.." "you fill me with inertia!" ----------- ! SEGUE ! ----------- TINY TIM (Greenfield, Massachusetts) -- Tiny Tim won't be strumming his ukulele on stage anytime soon. His wife, Susan Khaury, says doctors have told Tim that his heart is ``very weak'' and ``there is no way he should work before the first of the year.'' She says the doctors are ``very guarded about whether he should work at all.'' Tim is in stable condition at a hospital in Greenfield, Massachusetts. He's conscious and in good spirits. His wife says she has no plans to fly from their home in Minneapolis to visit him. She says she's looking for a hospital bed to put in their house. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "George V. Chastain" Subject: Need info on Al Caiola's Experiment in Terror Date: 01 Oct 1996 16:18:51 -0400 (EDT) I knew that SOMEBODY'S arrangement of a tune from Henry Mancini's EXPERIMENT IN TERROR soundtrack was used as the theme music on the now-defunct Pittsburgh TV horror movie showcase "Chiller Theater," hosted by "Chilly Billy" Cardille, but I didn't know whose version it was. I just found out that it's Al Caiola's! So now I need more information -- can anyone identify the album(s) it appears on? Or izzit a 45? I'd like to find a copy, whatever it is. A great excuse to listen to more Caiola. George Chastain u0e53@wvnvm.wvnet.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Exotica IS jazz, kids...and more Date: 01 Oct 1996 12:44:23 -0700 I hate to be the one to break this to you, not all of you btw;) BUT Martin Denny to this day has always considered himself to be a jazz pianist. Arthur Lyman's vibe playing is infinitely more in the jazz stream than other groups of the like. This is all POP MUSIC too. This is KEY Esquivel's greatest influences are Jazz Arrangers like Quincy Jones and Pete Rugolo and the genius of them all, Henry Mancini. Though all of these people played, composed and arranged Jazz it is also POP music AND Exotica is POP MUSIC. Blues, R & B, Reggae, Exotica, Lounge, Jazz, Steel Guitars, Instro Guitar bands like the Ventures, The Shadows, Joe Meek stuff, Moog/Electronic, Musique Concrete, Funk, Soul, and on and on and on and on and on forever can and is all POP MUSIC. Can't you HEAR it ? It's POP!!! It goes POP in the night. It's melodic or POP if you will It doesn't mean it's not jazz or exotica or whatever. It's ALL related and connected AND it was all born out of the Blues;-/> POP is short for Popular AND it is also "a sound" Abstract sqounkin', squirtin' screamin' rediculous non-melodic jazz IS NOT POP but flowing, melodic, easy listening lounge, exotica, jazz, Cal Tjader, Bobby Hutcherson, Victor Feldman, Barney Kessel, Herb Ellis, Buddy Emmons, Russ Garcia's Fantastica, Henry Mancini's Blues and The Beat, Peter Gunn, Spy/Private Eye Jazz and ALL that that includes is POP MUSIC. It's all connected and related and takes from each other, has all of the influences of each other coimbined and intertwined. There is Exotica that also has a bl;ues structure but is Jazz like the Surfmen and Tak Shindo and Lalo Schifrin and what about Electric Sitar ? That's Exotica but wait...isn't that International ;))) It's all the same and different at the same time Most of the players on the Surfmen LP are major west coast jazz/studio musicians of the day including Paul Horn (Chico Hamilton Qnt), Jack Costanzo (Esquivel, Mancini, Kenton) Emil Richards and on and on and on. So does that mean that it is Jazz or is it Exotica or is it Pop ? Yes to all three and more. It's all of those sounds. Is The Sonic Vibrations of Tom Dissvelt and Kid Baltan-Song of The 2nd Moon JUST musique concrete ? In a word, NO. It's Pop and Psych and Concrete all at the same time and all of this stuff is endless. So get into jazz and whatever because what I have found in my life is the more I listen to the more I hear Ever hear of Jazz Pop or for that matter Pop Jazz ? Most of you are listening to jazz and diggin' it and you don't even know it Dang ;-/> Jack PS This last digest was fun btw # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kpundit@aol.com Subject: Vibes, vibes & more vibes Date: 01 Oct 1996 16:56:10 -0400 Jack - Those are some other good additions to the vibes list! Some of these people, though considered "jazz" vibists, did alot of studio work & wound up on lots of Exotica. There's kind of a neat Red Norvo - Robert Drasnin tie-in that you may already know about. Robert Drasnin, the composer/flautist who's 50's exotica LP, "Voodoo", was recently reissued on CD, was in Red Norvo's band in the 50's & did several albums on RCA with him that are pretty decent. Don't know if any have been reissued though. I think there are alot of us on this list that listen to & enjoy a bunch of different kinds of music. Obviously, we are on this list because we love Exotica, specifically, & that should be the subject at hand. Jazz obviously has its lists, punk, classical, etc. But, I think it's sad if people are chastized or feel guilty for straying a bit into other areas. Yes, there are plenty of jazz musicians & classical musicians that have attitudes about other music than "theirs" but that is their loss. They're missing out. For us to stray a bit, as long as it's "healthy" straying, on occasion, shouldn't be grounds for criticism or self-condemnation. What are we - musical Nazi's? And music is so fluid &, at times, hard to categorize. You can't set up absolute barriers. Some of Les Baxter's work should be taken seriously by those supposedly "classical" music lovers;some classical music -especially by someone like the Brazilian composer, Villa-Lobos, is Exotica! And jazz, obviously is similar. It doesn't have to be a 4 letter word. As long as it's relevent to something that's being communicated here. I chose not to get further into discussing Bobby Hutcherson because I did feel that, beyond a point, the space for that is on the jazz list (wherever that is). Besides, I can write specifically to someone if I think I've found a "friend". I think the neat thing that's happening is that Exotica is not only fun, great music but it is finally being taken seriously as being more than the fluff that many people probably assumed it was. We don't need to feel apologetic or defensive or insecure about loving this stuff. Nor do we need to resort to the elitism that I feel is poison to any music that is expressing something. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: Re: Exotica IS jazz, kids...and more Date: 01 Oct 1996 17:05:26 -0400 Well, the scandal of exoticaphilia is that we like jazz (and musique concrete and a dozen other things) best when it is mood music, when the whole thrust of jazz seriousness is to break with the idea that it is about mood. Will > Will Straw Associate Professor and Acting Director, Graduate Program in Communications/ Director, The Centre for Research on Canadian Cultural Industries and Institutions McGill University 3465 rue Peel, Montreal, Quebec H3A 1W7 Phone: (514) 398 7667; Fax: (514) 398 4934 http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/crccii/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "George V. Chastain" Subject: Title of Caiola Experiment In Terror arrangement? Date: 01 Oct 1996 17:29:20 -0400 (EDT) RE: my earlier note requesting info on Al Caiola's uptempo version of a tune from Mancini's EXPERIMENT IN TERROR score, the title may be "A Study In Terror" but I'm not sure... George Chastain u0e53@wvnvm.wvnet.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Exotica IS jazz is pop Date: 01 Oct 1996 18:06:52 -0400 >This is all POP MUSIC. What Mr. Diamond said. Irwin Chusid says "Space-Age Pop." I say either that or "strange old pop records." Martin Denny's exotica is a branch of [so-called "blue-eyed"] jazz, as is pop to a large extent (or vice versa). A bored session man cranking out an uninspired, millionth cover of Caravan may not exactly be improvising and contributing to the music of liberation, but the jazz link remains evergreen. My local jazz station, completely unaware of SABPM, plays modern covers of "Boy from Ipanema" and stuff all day. If you're able to buy it, most likely it's pop: mass-produced consumer merchandise in all its vintage glory. Records go pop. Pop is good. Hop on pop. Exotica, n. 1. Anything of a foreign nature. 2. Narrow musical idiom popularized by jazzbo Martin Denny. 3. Convenient name of this mailing list. 4. Broad, inaccurate term for the pantheon of strange old pop music (SABPM). Semantica for the FAQ _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Exotica IS jazz ditto II Date: 01 Oct 1996 18:26:02 -0400 At 05:05 PM 10/1/96 -0400, you wrote: >Well, the scandal of exoticaphilia is that we like jazz (and musique >concrete and a dozen other things) best when it is mood music, >when the whole thrust of jazz seriousness is to break with the idea >that it is about mood. > >Will Brilliant! The term "jazzbo" was used in the period by no less a cultural sensitivity maven than then jazz critic Nat Hentoff. It's not a derogatory term, but I don't care that it sounds that way. Today's jazzbos' unflappable seriousness and disdain for pop wears thin. Glad pop records are cheaper. Gone are the days when Mr. Diamond's beatnik heroes would cheer and hoot for jazz, rather than sit solemnly as if at a church funeral. Yes, there are many wonderful, funny, entertaining jazz exponents and fans today; they're just drowned out by the solemnity. (But Mr. Diamond, please note that there are at least two moods.) ;) God bless Tiny Tim. Scandal-weary, Tony "switched-on mood" Wilds _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Caiola, Experimenting In Terror Date: 01 Oct 1996 18:40:07 -0400 At 05:29 PM 10/1/96 -0400, you wrote: >RE: my earlier note requesting info on Al Caiola's uptempo >version of a tune from Mancini's EXPERIMENT IN TERROR score, >the title may be "A Study In Terror" but I'm not sure... >George Chastain >u0e53@wvnvm.wvnet.edu I thought you'd answered your own question, but... The Mancini soundtrack has multiple versions of "Experiment in Terror" -- one a twist version (yippee!). The other songs all seem to be film-specific. "Experiment in Terror" is on The Best of Al Caiola and presumably some other Caiola LP. Don't forget the Champs' "Experiment in Terror," which is used in one of the early John Waters films. Tony Wilds _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: aa1515@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu (Ben Mancine) Subject: Looking for info on Cook Labs Date: 01 Oct 1996 19:42:55 -0400 I came across a pretty cool album on the COOK label, and I was hoping someone could shed a little light on it. Evidently, Cook Labs was a bastion of High Fidelity audio equipment during the late 1950's, and was based in Connecticut USA. This particular LP is called "Cook's Tour of High Fidelity". It's got a great cheesecake cover featuring a high-heeled brunette in a polka-dot bikini talking to a hand puppet. Side one is a comparison of direct-to-disk recording versus direct-to-tape-to-disk, followed by a parody of a HIFI equipment sales pitch. Side two is a bizarre collection of sound effects interspersed with 50's soap opera organ and soap opera announcer bits, like, "When we left John and Mary last time...", and so on. Extremely strange. And it's on blue vinyl, too. The liner notes suggest they also had a two record set called, "The ABC's of HI FI". Does anyone out there recall Cook Labs? Were their other releases this weird? Thanks! -Ben -- Are you havin' any fun? - Mr. Tony Bennett # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kpundit@aol.com Subject: whistlers Date: 01 Oct 1996 22:34:11 -0400 Now that we've gone thru all this silly vibes stuff, let's get serious. How about exotica whistlers! Muzzy Marcellino? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Soundtrack Exotica Date: 01 Oct 1996 19:33:20 -0700 Y'know...Most soundtrack afficionados think of Les Baxter's work, all of it as real schlock stuff. Not _real music_ at all. Now hear we are dealing with people that listen hardcore Jerry Goldsmith to Ennio Morricone who BTW has composed the music for over 300 films, Bernard Hermann-The God Father of the Soundtrack score with everything from Citizen Kane to The Day The Earth Stood Still. These is some serious shit I speak of here! So is Les Baxter a Soundtrack Person subject or an Exotica Person subject ? Does it matter ? Is it important ? Does it stray from the subject of the Exotica Mailing List ? I don't think so Beneath The Planet of The Apes, Mannix, Mission Impossible It's a Soundtrack BUT it's Crime/Private Eye Jazz and Exotica!!! What do I dooooooooo, what do I talk about ??? I'm soooooo afraid Jack "I'm just a schmendreck" Diamond PS I won't ever do that sig like that again ;-/> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Red Norvo/Rbt Drasnin Date: 01 Oct 1996 19:24:37 -0700 Robert Drasnin was in Red Norvo's band in the 50's & did several albums on RCA with him. Lance, I know and thanx for bringin' it up;)) I've got those records. 1 is Vibe-Rations on Liberty with Red wearing THE COOLEST Hawaiin abstrct print shirt that I NEED DESPARATELY!!! And he looks cooked out of his brain ;)) But he isd havin' a good time. That's 1955 or 6 Liberty was such an _amazing and versatile label_ Then there is another RCA release that I have that the title slips my mind Robert Drasnin eventually went into TV music and though we never saw his name "again" though he was very much a part of "our" musical conciousness through TV for many years, just like Esquivel. Never saw his name BUT that was his music;)) Y'know on Voodoo, which was also released on the same label, TOPS, Voodoo was also retitled and repackaged as Percussion Exotique. Lousy cover. BTW as long as I'm on the subject of covers and stuff, the CD cover for Voodoo is not the original. That is a new cover. The original is this obviously looking caucasian woman standing making SOME SORT a "Voodoo pose". Sitting on the groundn are these (also) very white looking guys playing bongos and conga; All of them and the entire cover is VERY RED because of a red light or red CELLOPHANE film they have the lights on the filming set directed through. These 2 guys have this really obvious look on their faces, looking at the woman with "what the fuck are you doing". The other Percussion Exotique cover are like upside down exclamation poits in different pastek colors. Like it's raing upside down exclamation point Pretty bland Off to another subject now Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: Looking for info on Cook Labs Date: 02 Oct 1996 03:40:06 GMT On Oct 01, 1996 19:42:55, 'aa1515@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu (Ben Mancine)' wrote: > > >I came across a pretty cool album on the COOK label, and I was hoping someone >could shed a little light on it. Evidently, Cook Labs was a bastion of >High Fidelity audio equipment during the late 1950's, and was based in >Connecticut USA. This particular LP is called "Cook's Tour of High Fidelity". >It's got a great cheesecake cover featuring a high-heeled brunette in a >polka-dot bikini talking to a hand puppet. Side one is a comparison of >direct-to-disk recording versus direct-to-tape-to-disk, followed by a parody >of a HIFI equipment sales pitch. Side two is a bizarre collection of sound >effects interspersed with 50's soap opera organ and soap opera announcer >bits, like, "When we left John and Mary last time...", and so on. Extremely >strange. And it's on blue vinyl, too. > >The liner notes suggest they also had a two record set called, "The ABC's of >HI FI". Does anyone out there recall Cook Labs? Were their other releases >this weird? Thanks! -Ben > >-- >Are you havin' any fun? - Mr. Tony Bennett SHIT! i've been looking for that one for about five years just for the cover! there's a guy behind a screen with a tape deck and a hand held mike capturing this bizarre performance bent down on his knees also, if i'm not mistaken. anybody out there got a copy for sale? i saw this advertised as "other records you might enjoy" on another cook record. will have to find it in the stacks and report more. i recall that the music was fairly mundane, though. jack fetterman > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Diamond Subject: Just found this Date: 01 Oct 1996 20:23:21 +0000 KFJC play list 3/4/96 for some schlepp ARTIST TRACK ALBUM Planets Chunky Bill Holman Orch. W/ Far Down Below 58/ANDEX J.Sheldon,V.Feldman, Bill Holman Richard Hayman Conjuration Voodoo! Leo Diamond Come to My House of Dreams Subliminal/St Peter Green The Supernatural 67 Stanley Meyers A Present for Daddy W B John Buzon Trio Mambo Rock Liberty Loren Holding/Tenor Mancini Golden Gate Twist Exp in Terror Johnson, Laurie Orch. The Shake Easy Project Harry Breuer T V Funeral March Mischief Vol 2 Combustible Edison Coven of Witches Four Rooms J.J.Perrey E.V.A. 70/VANGUARD Jerry Goldsmith The Trip Sebastian Esquivel Begin the Beguine OWOS/58/RCA M J Q Nite in Tunisia (Diz) ATLANTIC/59 Les Baxter W/The Plas Barbarian Teen Drums F & T Chopsticks Cha Cha Cha Blast Off Robert Maxwell Foolin' Around Red Hot Harp June Christy/Kenton/J.Costanzo-This Is My Theme 1947/CAPITOL The In Group If I Had a Hammer Ryko Sam Hoffman Theremin Solo Rocketshp X-M Stanley Wilson The Mugger(Benny Carter) M-Squad Stanley Wilson The Discovery(J.Williams) M-SquadD(59) Heinie Beau Orch The Tattooed Street Car Named Baby Coral/D.Fagerquist-Tpt Chuck Gentry-Baritone (Beau Original) Don Ralke Sacrifice of the Maidens Warner Bros Elmer Bernstein Thinking of Baby STACCATO/59 Nino Olivero Music Ranger Go Go Go World George Duning Send Me Nicky Candoli Bros. Bell, Book and Candle Roy Lanham The Kerry Dance 59/DOLTON Johnny Keating Orch 2001/SPINNING Wheel Greg Oliver : Roxanne Seduction 1961 Atilleo Mineo Around the World Man in Space Atilleo Mineo Welcome to Tomorrow With Sounds ;) Nordine What Time Is It 57/DOT Zinder, Jac Birdhouse Chairs I Have Known Frank Hunter Zimbah! (Ondiloine) White Goddess The Mezmerizing Eye Bird of Paradise/ Louise Huebner G O D S L & B Barron Shorty Rogers Giants The Elephants Wail Meets Tarzan Los Barbaros, Paradise Found(Under KFJC Bulletin Board) Boogaloo Joe Jones Right on PRESTIGE/69 Charles Earland/Rusty Bryant,Jimmy Lewis-Bass B.Purdie-Drms Vinnie Bell Quiet Village (Sitar) Decca Bernie Green The Penut Vendor More than U... Vic Mizzy Driverless Don't Make Waves Lewis Sisters/P.Horn and L.Bunker - S'wonderful Liberty!!! Barry Galbraith A Gal in Calico DECCA9200 Pete Rugolo Orchestra Diamond on The Move KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 http://www.kfjc.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: Looking for info on Cook Labs Date: 02 Oct 1996 04:43:15 GMT okay..found it...wiping off the dust..."cook's tour of stereo" 2004sd...flipping it on the turnatble...well.... we're landing at an airport in boston, then sitting in on a cook live recording of romeo and juliet at a boston concert hall. semi- amusing sound affect augmented narrations as we plane hop to trinidad, then martinique, mexico (stereo recordings of flies buzzing around our hostess), next, detroit for some theater organ. uh oh how did that cat fight get in there?....this is getting weird. it's kind of amusing. the high fidelity one sounds better, though. if you like this sort of thing (and I do), you might want to check out "The Swamp in June," by Peter Kilham and Alfred Hawkes. The cover features great photos of pipe smoking Kilham with his spectacular umbrella-like 1964 outdoor recording equipment perched on the back of his jeep backed into a swamp. no shit, the sounds he records are phenomenol! one side features the sounds of all manner of insect, lizard, frog, bird etcetera doing all those weird things they do in the swamp. hey quit splashing! the other side has similar recordings, but features hawkes explaining in his thick new england accent just what we're witnessing. this ranks up there with ren and stimpy's nature shows, but of course it is hilarity is unintentional. the swamp in june droll yankees records 1964 providence, rhode island dy.17 at your local yard sale now! jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: New York Post article Date: 02 Oct 1996 04:53:57 GMT i've been keeping a scrapbook on articles regarding this new fangled "lounge trend." if anyone has some local or otherwise general media reports that they can xerox, i find them pretty amusing. those of us that are left listening to this music after the fad implodes can sit back and have a few chuckles. jack fetterman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kpundit@aol.com Subject: Cook Labs Date: 02 Oct 1996 01:05:46 -0400 I've got a number of cool West Indian & calypso albums, probably from the mid-50's on the Cook Labs label. One of these is called "Tiroro" , & is the name of a Haitian drummer/singer who, composer Henry Cowell claims in the liner notes is the "best drummer in Haiti". It's a good album & is #5004. Also have a calypso compilation on red vinyl that's pretty good laying around somewhere. I think it has kind of a soft cover or sleeve rather than the usual LP cover. It may just be called the Cook Labs Calypso Sampler. Not sure. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: whistlers Date: 02 Oct 1996 05:58:03 GMT On Oct 01, 1996 22:34:11, 'Kpundit@aol.com' wrote: > >Now that we've gone thru all this silly vibes stuff, let's get >serious. How about exotica whistlers! Muzzy Marcellino? i recently picked up muzzy's "Art Linkletter presents House Party Music Time" from one of those other Jacks and have been spinning it regularly. A great example of wackiness on top of some pretty hip jazz arrangements. (the cover features a priceless photo of Art pulling off his headphones in the studio in increduluos ecstasy, eyes popping out of head, in awe of the unique talents of the humbly grinning marcellino!...hey, i'd do the same!) where can i start my whistling lessons? this is a great lost art...up there with the theremin. what else has this madman recorded? jack fetterman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: New York Post article Date: 02 Oct 1996 02:30:58 -0400 At 04:53 AM 10/2/96 GMT, you wrote: >i've been keeping a scrapbook on articles regarding this new fangled >"lounge trend." if anyone has some local or otherwise general media reports >that they can xerox, i find them pretty amusing. those of us that are left >listening to this music after the fad implodes can sit back and have a few >chuckles. > >jack fetterman Yeah. I keep 'em all, despite the chagrin. _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Beef a Hula Monsters Date: 02 Oct 1996 02:47:47 -0400 Sorry mildly for the snappiness. Still, tact & relevance is an accomplishment. GUSH time: The Hula Monsters played tonight, even w/out Mark Noone (on vaca). I saw 'em w/new poster Robby Garfinkle. They beat all I've ever seen for decades or checked out on vinyl. The two guys "sitting in" missed no beat and traded off to the max extemporaneously. It was too fab, right down to the multi guitar cover of "Harper Valley, PTA." They rule. Steel, slide, dobro, acoustic, string bass, fatback drums, accomplished. '78s Bob Wills (listen up, Mr. Chusid) and R. Crumb's Cheap Serenaders galore. These guys can do it. This is entertainment as only one who grew up down the street from James Brown (Walton Way, Augusta, GA) can express it. Hula Monsters. TERRIFIC. Stupendous. I'm only sorry Mark Noone now has to earn his place back, but he will. Oh, and they made a "Hai Karate" joke, so there. Hula aloha, Tony Wilds _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: "Amy Camus," YMA SUMAC! Date: 02 Oct 1996 03:06:21 -0400 >Tony Wilds wrote: > >> You should scold perpetuators of the Amy Camus foolishness w/the utmost >> severity. Show someone a good anagram and they think it has to be >> self-contrived. Great! Who knew? Ms. Sumac, keep on going, all the way. Fi on disbelievers. The worthy gnu address is: http://www.accesscom.com/~pc/sumac.htm Praise be to Mr. Don Pierson. (Sorry for any awkwardness re: publication.) Tony "defender ad extremus" Wilds _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: Soundtrack Exotica Date: 02 Oct 1996 05:15:01 -0600 (MDT) >So is Les Baxter a Soundtrack Person subject or an Exotica Person subject ? >Does it matter ? Is it important ? Does it stray from the subject of the >Exotica Mailing List ? This is such a funny topic. I am really having a laugh about it. I don't think it matters too dawgone much what category the music is in. I like good music in all genres. I think most exoticats are into sorta strange instrumental stuff or old pop tunes. If there is a bit of a wayward category discussed on the list, I don't usually mind. Sometimes they are more interesting than the strict exotica ones. And sometimes you learn about other cool music. I love crime jazz and funky soundtracks. I love exotica. I love jazz. I love techno. I love gooey vocals. I love experimental electronica. I love MUSIC! >What do I dooooooooo, what do I talk about ??? I'm soooooo afraid > I love it when Jack's tongue is firmly in cheek. Hee hee. >Jack "I'm just a schmendreck" Diamond > >PS I won't ever do that sig like that again ;-/> Why not? Tony's sigs absolutely kill me! Jill "laughter is the best medicine" Mingo Colloquium Internet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: whistlers Date: 02 Oct 1996 08:11:50 -0400 >what else has this madman recorded? One particularly wild track and come to think of it pointing to the connection between the "lost" arts of whistling and the therimin that someone brought up earlier, is Hugo Montenegro's version of "Good Vibrations" which features Muzzy doing the theremin part! Another interesting note, Muzzy was so well known in the early '60s that Paramount originally wanted Muzzy to do the whistling for the Stanley character Jerry Lewis plays in his directorial debut "The Bellboy," but Jerry decided he wanted to do it himself. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ccarlson@wgl.com Subject: Pop? Jazz? Where'd it come from? Date: 02 Oct 1996 08:22:05 -0400 Jack D. wrote (with stirring passion): "It's ALL related and connected AND it was all born out of the Blues;-/>" Some of us from the Scots-Irish tradition might have something to say about that! The feeling that "it all came from the blues" is, I feel, a misconception. I see two streams of musical evolution in America, one from the Eastern hill settlers and one from Southern plantations. I believe that these are the most important because somehow, the indigenous forms of each have managed to survive to the present day. There was cross-breeding on both sides (many black jug-bands and string-bands had fiddles; many white groups played banjos) and was the slide guitar (Hello, Hawaiian cowboys) played with a pocket-knife an attempt to play the African "blue notes" or were they just trying to sound like a fiddle? Could it be both? Yes it could. Listen to any Leadbelly album for further elucidation. Leadbelly's recordings included waltzes, jigs, and some of the best blues ever. His repetoire was not unusual; the fact that it was recorded was. Say what you will about the Lomax's, they got the real deal down on acetate and tape and did not pigeonhole a Southern African-American musician in the (then) racially exclusive blues category. And then there's the Delmore Brothers... But, yeah, it's all Pop! And I like it, yes I do. Craig "Soapbox" Carlson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patrick@xpedite.com (Patrick Cashin) Subject: Re: Beef a Hula Monsters Date: 02 Oct 1996 09:03:45 EDT ----- Begin Included Message ----- GUSH time: The Hula Monsters played tonight, even w/out Mark Noone (on vaca). I saw 'em w/new poster Robby Garfinkle. They beat all I've ever seen for decades or checked out on vinyl. The two guys "sitting in" missed no beat and traded off to the max extemporaneously. It was too fab, right down to the multi guitar cover of "Harper Valley, PTA." They rule. Steel, slide, dobro, acoustic, string bass, fatback drums, accomplished. ----- End Included Message ----- Does anybody have anymore info on these guys? What do they sound like? Are they as cool as my current fave raves THE SQUIRREL NUT ZIPPERS? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: MEL TORME UPDATE Date: 02 Oct 1996 13:15:24 -0400 This is the first news on him I've received in awhile...Remember to keep lighting a candle every night. Lounge Laura "you fill me with inertia!" (Los Angeles) -- Mel Torme is out of intensive care and is resuming rehabilitation for a stroke he suffered in August. A spokesman for the 71-year-old singer says he was eight days into his rehab work when an unrelated gastrointestinal problem struck him. The spokesman says Torme has been awake and alert through all of his troubles and doctors are hopeful he'll respond well to further treatment. The name of the Los Angeles-area hospital is being withheld to protect Torme's privacy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patrick@xpedite.com (Patrick Cashin) Subject: Bonzo Dog Band Date: 02 Oct 1996 12:15:36 EDT Does anyone know if the Bonzo Dog Band's original albums have been released domestically on CD? Lounge Laura and I *REALLY* need to know. We both have the Rhino "Best of" comp. and are jonesing badly for more... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Grypa Subject: what is exotica/lounge Date: 02 Oct 1996 13:25:14 -0400 (EDT) ok, let me get one thing straight here, i joined this listserv. the other day, and if you guys(and gals) have already talked about this, let me know, but everytime somebody asks me what lounge music is, or what exotica music is, i can never get the right words to come out of my mouth.. could anybody here give me a definition of exotica music, and or lounge music? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan Dada Vis) Subject: Flower Power Sitar Date: 02 Oct 1996 20:01:58 +0100 is an excellent copy of "Flower Power Sitar" by Rajput and the Sepoy Mutiny a rare record, and what is it worth? = Johan |)/\|)/\ Vis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Rhodewalt Subject: Re: what is exotica/lounge Date: 02 Oct 1996 11:13:07 -0700 Andrew Grypa wrote: > > ok, let me get one thing straight here, i joined this listserv. the other > day, and if you guys(and gals) have already talked about this, let me > know, but everytime somebody asks me what lounge music is, or what exotica > music is, i can never get the right words to come out of my mouth.. > could anybody here give me a definition of exotica music, and or > lounge music? This is a troll, right? You're a veteran newsgroup user and you love stirring up trouble, don't you? -- Bruce Rhodewalt kahuna@tikipub.com ____________________________________________________________ Creative Internet http://www.tikipub.com solutions from... 78-365 Highway 111, Suite 241 * Tiki Publishing * La Quinta, CA 92253 * 1-888-TIKIPUB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ccarlson@wgl.com Subject: Re: What is exotica/lounge Date: 02 Oct 1996 15:16:20 -0400 Andrew (the new guy) wrote: " could anybody here give me a definition of exotica music, and or lounge music? " Should we tell him? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Koldys Subject: Re: Cook Labs Date: 02 Oct 1996 15:58:58 -0000 >Does anyone out there recall Cook Labs? Cook released what I believe were the first stereophonic LPs. They were pressed with two sets of bands, one for each channel, on each side of the LP. You had to use a special arm with two cartridges several inches apart which then played the two bands and sent the signals to the amps. Needless to say, this technique was abandoned when the single-groove-stereo LP was developed. mkoldys@rust.net "If befriend donkey, expect to be kicked." --Charlie Chan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anton Elmquist Subject: OYABANDO this Friday - NYC Date: 02 Oct 1996 16:02:56 -0400 Just another gig update - we're playin' Spiral this Friday at 11:30 - that's on Houston at Avenue A in NYC. Takuya Nakamura will be joining us in the massive feather coat again, and if things go well tonight, we'll be unveiling the first ever tune by that softspoken chick with the hard-hittin' sticks, Mika Tanaya! We go on at 11:30 or so, and I have no idea what the cover is. I'm going to try not to get hit in the face by anyone this time! - Anton -- *********************************************************** * Anton "2-Door" Elmquist * *********************************************************** * Check out the The Bed-Stuy Network! * * http://www.spacelab.net/~anton * * * * And the OYABANDO page - Surf music links and more... * * http://www.spacelab.net/~anton/oyabando * * * * "Guitar lines that taste like grape jelly" * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: MORE ON MEL FROM LOUNGE L Date: 02 Oct 1996 16:46:35 -0400 Here's a newer update... MEL TORME OUT OF INTENSIVE CARE (Los Angeles) -- Mel Torme is out of intensive care and back in rehab for his stroke. Torme had finished eight days of neurological rehabilitation when he came down with an unrelated gastrointestinal problem. Torme, who's 71, spent two weeks in intensive care. His publicist says Torme's ``sensory and mind conditions are 100 percent.'' He says doctors are ``hopeful'' that Torme will be able to bounce back from the stroke that he suffered on August eighth. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kpundit@aol.com Subject: more whistling!?! Date: 02 Oct 1996 17:30:57 -0400 I usually don't like to relate my personal life to music discussion but I've got a story that's kind of funny (stupid, actually). Some years ago, I was playing in a band with a bass player named Gene Marcellino (now wait...!). He had a brother (now wait...! - it wasn't Muzzy) who somehow wound up producing the Jackson 5 right around the time their big string of hits ended. Actually, from what I heard, he was RESPONSIBLE for their string of hits ending. Anyways...he also had an uncle (!) who he said had been a professional whistler & had done the whistling for the soundtrack of "The High & the Mighty"! I thought "Yeah, sure, a professional whistler!" Haha! The joke was on me because there I was years later buying & looking for Muzzy Marcellino albums. And, talk about exotica/whistling! I've got an LP by Muzzy called "Whistling On the Beach at Waikiki" on which Muzzy applies his trade (it DOES sound like a theremin!) to all our favorite Hawaiian standards. The album is on the Coral label & is CRL 57441. No photo of Muzzy though. I've also got an album by another contender for the whistler crown named Art Coates (?). I't's called "Whistling Like the Birds" & has Art doing such faves as "Quando, Quando, Quando", "The Hawaiian Wedding Song", "Yellow Bird" & "Tales From the Vienna Woods". I wonder if anyone's tackled "Flight of the Bumblebee"! This LP is on Dot & the stereo # is DLP 25781. For some reason, I'm also thinking that jazzy guitarist & harmonica player Toots Thielemans (spelling?) is also a "whistler". But no one can really whistle like birds and then you get into...never mind. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tribute@dircon.co.uk (Hugh Petfield) Subject: Re: Cal Tjader Date: 02 Oct 1996 22:37:01 +0100 Out of curiousity, how do you say "Tjader" please? I'd guess Char-der.... Hugh. e-mail from: tribute@dircon.co.uk (Hugh Petfield) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maravillo@aol.com Subject: Re: MEL TORME UPDATE Date: 02 Oct 1996 18:15:17 -0400 In a message dated 96-10-02 13:35:45 EDT, you write: << (Los Angeles) -- Mel Torme is out of intensive care and is resuming rehabilitation for a stroke he suffered in August. A spokesman for the 71-year-old singer says he was eight days into his rehab work when an unrelated gastrointestinal problem struck him. The spokesman says Torme has been awake and alert through all of his troubles and doctors are hopeful he'll respond well to further treatment. >> One has to wonder if his exposure to host Jenny McCarthy on MTV's Singled Out may have been too much for the old guy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maravillo@aol.com Subject: Re: What is exotica/lounge Date: 02 Oct 1996 18:24:24 -0400 In a message dated 96-10-02 15:24:57 EDT, you write: << " could anybody here give me a definition of exotica music, and or lounge music? " Should we tell him? >> yeah, then you can tell everyone else. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: Re: Cal Tjader Date: 02 Oct 1996 17:29:05 -0700 Hugh Petfield wrote: > > Out of curiousity, how do you say "Tjader" please? > JAY-der --- Brad bbigelow@netrail.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: Sweet Bands a Go Go Date: 02 Oct 1996 17:41:46 -0700 I've been running across a raft of albums of 60s tunes recorded by aging swing-era bands--particularly the "sweet" bands--in the thrift stores. Freddy Martin, Guy Lombardo, Sammy Kaye and others doing their unique renditions of "Girl from Ipanema" and "Goldfinger." I finally picked up one by Sammy Kaye just to hear what he did with the theme to "Batman." It turns out he took a fairly cool "Night Train"-ish approach, with some Hammond B3 organ effects in the background. Part of the credit is due to Charles Albertine, the arranger, who also worked with The Three Suns on some of their best albums. I also recently picked up a Harry James album from the 60s on which he covers a set of Neal Hefti numbers. Has anyone else discovered some genres in this unpromising sub-genre? And who the heck bought Sammy Kaye doing "Batman" in the first place? Brad Bigelow bbigelow@netrail.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: Re: Tikis on T.V./monkees Date: 02 Oct 1996 18:47:29 -0400 RE>>Tikis on T.V./monkees 10/2/96 Hey, everyone knows the Monkees are exotic ;^)...so don't mind me! Some David cat wrote the following: >>> If anybody *is* interested in owning videos of HONEY WEST, girl private eye (don't worry Gloria, your tape is already on order) e-mail me and I'll send you the address I have. This particular vendor also sells tapes with all the Monkees music scenes from the shows on one tape, just as an example. Somewhat off-topic, but I assume there would be some crossover in interest). --David Right you are, Sir David...so e-mail me away, unless it's Glenn Sadin. I am already hip to him. Thanks, Lounge Laura laura@wusf.usf.edu "It's just my nature to do weird stuff..." "You fill me with inertia" and all dat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Subject: bonzo dog band cd's Date: 02 Oct 1996 21:09:13 -0400 (EDT) i know i bought a bdb reissue cd recently but i can't tell you how to get them unfortunately. all i know is i found a few of them and i wasn't looking all that hard. kev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jbtwist@aol.com Subject: Re: Les-Ingmar 2 Date: 02 Oct 1996 21:50:28 -0400 on 9/26 ashley wrote: being a cinema studies major in college and having to sit through many many (!) Bergman movies I can tell you that Baxter never scored a Bergman movie I finally got back to Border's Books today and looked in Vincent Francillon's $50 quality paperback "Film Composer's Guide." Under Les Baxter's lengthy scoreography? , it lists him as rescoring the US release of Bergman's "Monika", 1953, as well as rescoring numerous other foreign films (Black Sunday, Black Sabbath, Baron Blood, among others). Eric Nordgren is also listed as the composer for "Monika", of course the original release. I have no clue as to the accuracy of this reference work, I only knows what I reads in books. In the meantime, I'll keep an eye out for when TCM reruns "Bop Girl Goes Calypso", so I can alert you cable hounds. You ain't lived till you've seen The Goofers. BTW, this movie has 2 songs ("Rovin' Gal" and "Calypso Boogie") credited to Les & JIM BAXTER ??? JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Muzzy Marcellino Date: 02 Oct 1996 18:49:55 -0700 Probably his best record is on Liberty - Birds of a Feather. You can see a scan of it at my web page under Album Covers http://www.cygnus.com/kfjc/diamond He also has another 1 on Coral that is something like... On The Beach, Whistling On The Beach ? Can't remember Not sure about any others tho Jack PS What about Fred Lowery ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Muzzy Post Date: 02 Oct 1996 18:44:11 -0700 >One particularly wild track and come to think of it pointing to the >connection between the "lost" arts of whistling and the therimin that someone >brought up earlier, is Hugo Montenegro's version of "Good Vibrations" which >features Muzzy doing the theremin part! Another interesting note, Muzzy was >so well known in the early '60s that Paramount originally wanted Muzzy to do >the whistling for the Stanley character Jerry Lewis plays in his directorial >debut "The Bellboy," but Jerry decided he wanted to do it himself. _________________ Hey that's really cool info! Thanx Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Barry Bradbury" Subject: Cook Laboratories Date: 02 Oct 1996 22:18:43 -0400 I am right at this moment listening to "Cook's Audio Follies", a "bargain sampler of indecent proportions from 15 famous Cook albums - audio landmarks in the shady development of high fidelity". A very odd disk, packaged in a clear plastic sleeve with a one-page insert and a cartoon of a 50's guy in a trenchcoat, on blue wax. This appears to be a sampler of various of their albums, hitting all of the major themes of 50's Hi-Fi. A "gigantic Wurlitzer theatre organ", Hungarian cimbalom(?), steel bands, a circus calliope track, a zither solo (courtesy zither juggernaut Ruth Welcome), a pedal harpsichord number, and the obligatory locomotive. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Barry Bradbury" Subject: Sorcery!/Adventures In Sound Date: 02 Oct 1996 22:47:39 -0400 Just purchased the sampler to the Adventures in Sound series. 2 disks in a gatefold sleeve, with a sitar band on the cover (Ravi Shankar). Not sure of the year, but it claims to commemorate the 10th anniversary of Long Playing Records. From the info inside we find that the series comprised 19 disks, most of which are of the mariachi/flamenco/steel drum/mandolin variety (today, we call it worldbeat). Notable are selections from the famous "Delirium in HiFi", "Portrait of Leda" (sounds like Klaus Nomi), "Carillon in Hi-Fi" by Arthur Lynds Bigelow, and the spectacular "Sorcery!", by Sabu and his percussion ensemble. I'm sure you will all share my pleasure in buying the above for fifty cents. "In old jungles strange ache-hungry birds watch from trees that wilt and hang. Small loin-clothed men step brittlely through overgrown verdure. Natural boleros sound in the teeth of giant cocodiles crunching the bones of careless waterfowl, while in the grass banks, the lice violate in aimless joy the matted fur of some dead, cold, warm-blooded species. SABU... ... has heard all this and much more." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrell Brogdon Subject: More whistlers Date: 02 Oct 1996 22:24:53 -0700 Anybody familiar with Ron McCroby? He's been on The Tonight Show a couple of times and had at least three albums in the mid-80s. The first was "Ron McCroby Plays Puccolo" (Concord 208). On "The Other Whistler" (Concord CJ257) Ron demonstrates the art of puccolo on "Take Five", "Mayberry R.F.D.", "Cherokee" and a smokin' version of "Four Brothers". Both great straight ahead jazz. He did another album in 1985 for Pro Arte, "Breezin' the Classics" which, as the title suggests, is mostly classical stuff with some Sondheim, Joplin and Gershwin mixed in. Anyone who likes whistlers should check out this guy. Haven't seen any recordings by him since '85. Anybody know of others? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: Les-Ingmar 2 Date: 02 Oct 1996 23:28:12 -0400 In a message dated 96-10-02 22:00:30 EDT, you write: >on 9/26 ashley wrote: > > being a cinema studies major in college and having to sit through many many >(!) Bergman movies I can tell you that Baxter never scored a Bergman movie > >I finally got back to Border's Books today and looked in Vincent Francillon's >$50 quality paperback "Film Composer's Guide." Under Les Baxter's lengthy >scoreography? , it lists him as rescoring the US release of Bergman's >"Monika", 1953, as well as rescoring numerous other foreign films (Black >Sunday, Black Sabbath, Baron Blood, among others). Eric Nordgren is also >listed as the composer for "Monika", of course the original release. > >I have no clue as to the accuracy of this reference work, I only knows what I >reads in books. In the meantime, I'll keep an eye out for when TCM reruns >"Bop Girl Goes Calypso", so I can alert you cable hounds. You ain't lived >till you've seen The Goofers. BTW, this movie has 2 songs ("Rovin' Gal" >and "Calypso Boogie") credited to Les & JIM BAXTER ??? > >JB > > On 10/2 Ashley writes A fine bit of detective work JB, hats off to you! But on a technicality it was a rescore - I must have seen the original Swedis version scored by Sven Yorgfolkentonsvenson (come on fols, folks I have to regain some dignity outta this) Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pgough@pop.direct.ca Subject: Re: Bonzo Dog Band Date: 02 Oct 1996 20:56:14 -0700 I believe that most of the LPs have been released by One Way and are budget priced. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Playlist 8/25/96 Date: 02 Oct 1996 22:12:13 -0700 KFJC play list 8/25/96 for Jack Diamond http://www.kfjc.org ARTIST TRACK ALBUM Planets Chunky Cannonball Adderly Spectacular Emarcy Nat Adderly-Cornet Sam Jones-Bass Soph. Swing Esquivel Speak Low O.W.O.S./58 Ron Granier A Man in a Suitcase Dominique Frontiere The Harvest Pagan Festival Fred Katz with Paul Horn, Chico Hamilton Pac Jazz, 1957 Carson Smith John Pisano - Lord Randall Jery Goldsmith No Escape Planet of the Apes Eric Winstone Orch. Doctor Whoooooooooooooooo Theme Tom Scott with the Impulse California Dreamers Never My Love 1967, 1ST Lp Dick Hyman Living on Borrowed Time Command, Lowery Organ Frank Hunter Strange Echoes White Goddess Johnny Keating Good Morning Starshine, Sounds Telstar Galactic George Duning I Wish I Could Kim Novak- Bell, Book & Candle Oohing and Ahing Candoli Bros. W/ Bell, Book & Barney Kessel-Guitar Shep Shook Candle 101 Strings Barrier X-69 Astro Sounds... Hugo Montenegro Orch Aces High Louise Huebner Orgies-A Tool for Seduction Through - Witchcraft Pierro Piccioni Nothing to Say Moment of Truth Phil Moore Naked Island N.Y. Sweet Skip Martin Riff Blues Mike Hammer Leith Stevens Orch Black Rebels Ride Wild One,Decca Schulmadchen Report 2 Gert Wilden Orch Dirty Beat Neal Hefti Turkish Delight RCA Mort Garson Capricorn Zodiac Cosmic - Aquarius Sounds, 1967, Elektra Andre' PoppppppppppppppMusique Mechanique Presenting Dena-Vocals Shiek of Araby Danny Guglielmi-Music Chun King Commercial 1966 Mundell Lowe Orch Lake in the Woods Satan in High Heels Ken Nordine's Twink Winshield Wipers, Tears Suede, Zebra,Sidewalks 1967,8 George Martin Theme One Scamp New Release Benny Golson Happiness Is... Verve Kenton,Pete Rugolo Capitol Punsihment Encores,1st 10" lp Animated Egg Sippin' and Trippin' Alshire Chaino and Mate Jungle Chase Omega, Stereo Tony Hatch Orch Sportsnight Mancini Arabesque Machito Afro Cubans Tanga, Caravan Flip Phillips-Tenor Sax Les Reed Brass The Saint Hershel Gilbert Drum Mad-ness Burkes Law Pete Rugolo Diamond on the Move KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 http://www.kfjc.org Jack Diamond PS 8 of the above titles are on CD. Which one's though ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: Poncie Ponce CD/ address Date: 03 Oct 1996 03:00:26 -0400 I forgot the email name of the person who requested this but if you are looking for the Poncie CD and cannot find it via Tower, etc write to this guy Elliot Kendall 1021 Clark Ave #K Burbank, CA 91506 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: Friday night Tiki extravaganza Date: 03 Oct 1996 03:00:34 -0400 Los Angeles. La Luz de Jesus Gallery (aka Wacko on Hollywood Bl betw Hillhurst and Vermont) Friday, September 4, 9 pm Tikitones play free to what promises to be the largest gathering of Tikiphiles this year (topped only by Exoticon last year) a keg o beer will start the party which will run til 11 pm The event is "21st Century Tiki" an art show including Robt Williams, Jefferey Vallance, COOP, Pizz, Josh Agle, and more. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: Re: Sweet Bands a Go Go Date: 03 Oct 1996 04:40:23 -0700 Correction! I wrote: > > I've been running across a raft of albums of 60s tunes recorded by > aging swing-era bands--particularly the "sweet" bands--in the thrift > stores. Freddy Martin, Guy Lombardo, Sammy Kaye and others doing their > unique renditions of "Girl from Ipanema" and "Goldfinger." I finally > picked up one by Sammy Kaye just to hear what he did with the theme to > "Batman." > > It turns out he took a fairly cool "Night Train"-ish approach, with some > Hammond B3 organ effects in the background. Part of the credit is due to > Charles Albertine, the arranger, who also worked with The Three Suns on > some of their best albums. > > I also recently picked up a Harry James album from the 60s on which he > covers a set of Neal Hefti numbers. > > Has anyone else discovered some genres in this unpromising sub-genre?That should be: Has anyone else discovered some GEMS in this unpromising sub-genre? Brad bbigelow@netrail.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: The Return of Jimi Tenor Date: 03 Oct 1996 05:07:38 -0600 (MDT) OK..I've got the new Jimi Tenor LP on tape - no, it doesn't list the name - he told me and I forget - great (!!) cover too, and I must say it is AMAZING. New genre for you category fiends out there: Sleazy Listening. If you had his last LP "Europa" (and if you don't, go find!!), this one is a bit more funky and sleazy. Yes, it is a bit jazzy too, with some distorted vocals. Great lo-fi, dirty sound. So him signing to Warp hasn't changed his sound - worry not! New single "Sugar Daddy/Tesla" to come in a couple months, I think. Don't think the LP is ready until next year. "Sugar Daddy" is kinda like Gary Glitter meets Alan Vega meets Jimi in sleaze. "Tesla" is a laid-back jazzy-electro workout with haunting moans. Both are on the LP. Highlights on the LP are "Outta Space", "Shore Hotel", "Can't Stay With You" and of course, the most funked-up trashy electro breakbeat version of "Caravan" you've ever heard! If you have seen any recent gigs of his, you'll know some of the tracks. He has a band performing with him on this LP on some tracks - bass, drums, guitar - he still does most of it himself. Anyway, I can give a track listing if anyone cares. If this man doesn't become a pop star, I can't think of anyone who should! x Jill "groovin' in outta space" Mingo Colloquium Internet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jan Fornell Subject: RE:Augie Colon Date: 03 Oct 1996 21:35:00 +0900 >Look for Augie's two solo albums reissued next year. I, for one, very much look forward to that. On Scamp, I presume? Jan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jbatutis@AMEXPUB.COM (Joe Batutis) Subject: Re[2]: Tikis on T.V./monkees Date: 03 Oct 1996 09:56:47 -0400 Speaking of the Monkees, I just got a CD with Perez Prado doing a Mamboized version of The Monkees Theme. I can't remember the name of the CD... something in spanish meaning "two-fer". -Joe B. http://www.amexpub.com/jbatutis/noddmusic/oddmusic.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Hula Monsters/Bob Wills Date: 03 Oct 1996 10:08:54 -0400 >The Hula Monsters -- Hawaiian/western swing -- "hulabilly" >Does anybody have anymore info on these guys? What do they sound like? >Are they as cool as my current fave raves THE SQUIRREL NUT ZIPPERS? Delightful, warm, steel-playing HM leader Dave Geigerich says recording begins in a month or two -- after his family moves (within state). They sound like the seasoned vets that they are -- playing obscenely well, covering great old tunes, doing some originals, and stroking the crowd comically, intelligently, and respectfully. I rate them higher than the wonderful Squirrel Nuts, but I'm quite partial, and who knows how well they'll do in the cold studio. Repertory staples include St. James Infirmary Blues (the Hula gals always request it), HI 5-0 theme, Roly-Poly, Tangi Tahiti, AL Jubilee, and Mark Noone's I'm Out. There are scads more, particularly of the Bob Wills variety. And soon they'll be doing both "Hawaiian Cowboy" and Hal Aloma's "Happy Hawaiian Cowboy," if my research has its intended impact. On Tuesday we had the pleasure of hearing Mark Noone's temporary replacement George Welling of the Oklahoma Twisters, "a western swing band in the Bob Wills tradition": http://www.kaizen.net/lkasdorf/okt.html Tony Wilds _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Sweet Bands a Go Go Date: 03 Oct 1996 10:50:37 -0400 At 05:41 PM 10/2/96 -0700, you wrote: >I've been running across a raft of albums of 60s tunes recorded by >aging swing-era bands--particularly the "sweet" bands--in the thrift >stores. Freddy Martin, Guy Lombardo, Sammy Kaye and others doing their >unique renditions of "Girl from Ipanema" and "Goldfinger." I finally >picked up one by Sammy Kaye just to hear what he did with the theme to >"Batman." >Has anyone else discovered some genres in this unpromising sub-genre? Brad, I'm surprised. When the old masters got desperate in the face of the evil Beatles, things often got way out of hand musically. It IS quite promising when you pilfer the one hip song for a tape and then lose the LP, Mr. 3rd Man. Eventually EVERY artist did EVERY thing, although I don't think Perez Prado ever made a Hawaiian record. Yes he did! I forgot "Hawaiian War Chant." Only on vinyl, natch. Dig his highly unusual Caravan and Taboo too. >And who the heck bought Sammy Kaye doing "Batman" in the first place? A LOT of geeky parents. You can imagine the embarassment of the kids. Les & Larry did a nice (mercifully short but thunderous) mod "Batman." Tony _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Les-Ingmar 2.01 Date: 03 Oct 1996 11:17:02 -0400 >On 10/2 Ashley writes >A fine bit of detective work JB, hats off to you! But on a technicality it >was a rescore - I must have seen the original Swedis version scored by Sven >Yorgfolkentonsvenson (come on fols, folks I have to regain some dignity outta >this) > >Ashley Ashley, you'll always have plenty left. It's a dangerous game, though, saying something doesn't exist [on vinyl]. My biggest peeve, as I can't bear to watch yet another one of my "second dads" --whom I love and who stock my larder-- go out of business bc people give up on records. This is passion talkin'. Can I really be sure that I have every Martin Denny? Won't there always be another "Taste of India" or "Exotica Suite" that escapes the normal lists? Assume "it" is out there, and be confident that you will find it tomorrow. Tony "hound's hound" Wilds _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: anita_serwacki@newline.com (ANITA SERWACKI) Subject: Re: Sweet Bands a Go Go Date: 02 Oct 1996 19:04:03 -0400 Brad Bigelow wrote: >> I finally picked up one by Sammy Kaye just to hear what he did with the theme >> to "Batman." Funny, I did the same thing. Standing at the thrift bin going "Sammy Kaye? Batman?! What the... Gotta be worth at least 99 cents." Anita # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: Willy Wonka Date: 03 Oct 1996 10:23:35 -0600 (MDT) > One of the women I work with is trying to locate the soundtrack to > WILLY WONKA AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY and tells me she's had no success. > > Does anyone know if it's currently in print and on CD? It's never been issued on CD, but I've been led to believe that it will be in a couple of weeks as a tie-in to the anniversary video reissue. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Grypa Subject: ok, part two... Date: 03 Oct 1996 12:52:00 -0400 (EDT) maybe i should clarify my real generalized question i asked the other day. i asked "what is lounge/exotica?" i've never seen any definition of it, and when i try to explain it to people it usually ends up like this: THEM: oh, you listen to lounge, what is it? ME: um....er...ah...well... say, how 'bout them Packers? i've never seen a good definition of it, because it's not really elevator music even though it kinda is, it's not jazz even though it kinda is, it's not records you find in thrift stores even though it kinda is. what makes something lounge, instead of being exotica or jazz or whatever? i'm sorta new to this lounge/exotica music, even though i don't know what it is, i've been collecting it for about five months or so. can somebody help me out, i don't wanna be a troll... thanks andrew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Rhodewalt Subject: Missing tiki dude Date: 03 Oct 1996 09:57:58 -0700 Has anybody spoken with or otherwise heard from Allen St. James, aka Tiki Trader, aka Hawaiiana Trader? I can't rouse him and I can't reach his web site: http://www.west.net/~tikigods Thanks. Anybody want to talk about Billy Vaughn? -- Bruce Rhodewalt kahuna@tikipub.com ____________________________________________________________ Creative Internet http://www.tikipub.com solutions from... 78-365 Highway 111, Suite 241 * Tiki Publishing * La Quinta, CA 92253 * 1-888-TIKIPUB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: Bags Unlimited Number Date: 03 Oct 1996 11:27:46 -0600 (MDT) >> Unfortunately, they recently stopped carrying album frames, for those >> particularly unlistenable records with fabulous covers. > > Does anyone know if anyone still carry album frames? Bags Unlimited still carries record frames -- they have them in their back-cover ad on the issue of Goldmine currently on the stands. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: garfinkel robby Subject: Fists of Fury Date: 03 Oct 1996 13:30:17 -0400 (EDT) I love the "Fists of Fury" (Bruce Lee) soundtrack. I've done some searching at chain stores (Tower, HMV, et al) but have come up empty. Does anyone know it exists on vinyl or cd? And, where to order it from. Robby # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: springer@nyc.pipeline.com (D. Scott Springer) Subject: (Fwd) Re: Sweet Bands a Go Go Date: 03 Oct 1996 17:31:24 GMT >----- Forwarded message (Brad Bigelow ) -----< > Has anyone else discovered some genres in this unpromising sub-genre?That should be: Has anyone else discovered some GEMS in this unpromising sub-genre? Brad- I recently found some Arthur Fielder & The Boston Pops LPs (99 cents) with tunes like "Goldfinger," "Up, Up and Away" and "Promises, Promises," among others. I would not say these are GEMS, but the arrangements are of some interest, nevertheless. Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Macarena Date: 03 Oct 1996 11:33:10 -0600 (MDT) I've been told that this song's actually been around for fifty years or so. Can anyone recommend a pre-Beatles version? -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Willy Wonka on hard times Date: 03 Oct 1996 13:35:03 -0400 At 10:23 AM 10/3/96 -0600, you wrote: >> One of the women I work with is trying to locate the soundtrack to >> WILLY WONKA AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY and tells me she's had no success. >> >> Does anyone know if it's currently in print and on CD? > >It's never been issued on CD, but I've been led to believe that it will be >in a couple of weeks as a tie-in to the anniversary video reissue. Thx for the yummy tip. Oom-pah, oom-pah, oompa dee do. I've got another riddle for you. If anyone wants the Wonka vinyl, I've got it in embarassing condition -- free but for the postage ($3) or with any other record. Ditto for Bozo's "Happy Birthday Party," Dorothy Collins (Ray Scott's wife)'s "Experiment Songs," and a good-condition dinosaur record. The whole mess mailed for a fin ($5), "kids." My e-mail door always is open to all of you on other seeks as well. Info, opinion, and lazy searches are free and happily offered. Let there be music. Tony "moss upon the Beat Farmers' 'Big Rock Candy Mountain'" Wilds _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: what is exotica/lounge Date: 03 Oct 1996 11:47:25 -0600 (MDT) > could anybody here give me a definition of exotica music, and or > lounge music? From the list intro message: There is no hard and fast definition of "Exotica" as the distinction is primarily in the eye (and ear!) of the collector. I left the definition of valid subject matter for this list pretty vague on purpose -- our time is better spent listening to music than it is trying to pigeonhole it. If you're not sure what we consider "exotic" around here, just sit back and watch for a few weeks and it'll become clearer. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Exotica/lounge (ok, part two...) Date: 03 Oct 1996 14:13:00 -0400 >i've never seen a good definition of it, because it's not really elevator >music even though it kinda is, it's not jazz even though it kinda is, it's >not records you find in thrift stores even though it kinda is. > >what makes something lounge, instead of being exotica or jazz or whatever? >i'm sorta new to this lounge/exotica music, even though i don't know what >it is, i've been collecting it for about five months or so. > >can somebody help me out, i don't wanna be a troll... Bruce didn't mean to be mean to you, but as this is a constant bromide on the list, we find your query highly ironic. That definition is why we're all here. To discover exotica, simply buy a Martin Denny CD or LP that doesn't have "Taste" in the title. "Lounge" isn't really applicable to records so much as to the new "scene" of youngsters snapping up old cha cha cha and twist records -- ones that hot rod and surf record dealers have scoffed at for years. "Space-age" and "lounge" are terms used to include the non-exotic works, meaning whitebread, American, pop music (pre Beatles and all that ignorant, amplified mess we dyed-in-the-wool rockheads also love). ANY vinyl can be found in a thrift store, theoretically, but you're trading mucho time and usually quality for paltry savings. Any number of reputable dealers will find it for you and charge a nominal fee above overhead. Of course, they're mostly cagey old men living out on "Rural Route 1" in dubious states, but I've found 'em. You can too with perseverance and observation. Tony "collecting SABPM for JUST 2 years, yes it's true" Wilds _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tribute@dircon.co.uk (Hugh Petfield) Subject: Re: Bonzo Dog Band Date: 03 Oct 1996 19:05:32 +0100 Patrick wrote.... > >Does anyone know if the Bonzo Dog Band's original albums have been >released domestically on CD? Lounge Laura and I *REALLY* need to know. >We both have the Rhino "Best of" comp. and are jonesing badly for more... They may be deleted now, but Music Master CD catalogue (no, Jack, I won't send you a copy!) lists the following CD's Title / Label/ No. Bestiality of Bonzo .. EMI/Liberty CDP 7926752 Cornology EMI/EMI CDS 7995952 Dog ends EMI/EMI CDS 7995982 The intro EMI/EMI CDS 7995962 The outro EMI/EMI CDS 7995972 The tracklist for Cornology isn't shown, but the listings for the other four seem to have no tracks duplicated. Sorry, but I can't list all the tracks, but included are such bizarre gems as: - My pink half of the drainpipe - Labio dental fricative - Can blue men sing the whites? - Tubas in the moonlight Laura may do weird stuff, but she's Doris Day compared to the Bonzos! Hugh. e-mail from: tribute@dircon.co.uk (Hugh Petfield) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Macarena & Sway Date: 03 Oct 1996 14:35:05 -0400 At 11:33 AM 10/3/96 -0600, you wrote: >I've been told that this song's actually been around for fifty years or so. >Can anyone recommend a pre-Beatles version? > I'm not saying it hasn't, but I've seen a lot of Latin, and I wonder if someone isn't thinking of "Malaguena." It's no standard in any case. Also, I should have stated earlier that Pablo Beltran Ruiz wrote Quien Sera/Sway. Get his RCA Mex LPs like Go Go Internacional. Hang On Sloopy type songs all in that glorious Category of the Gods, Latin Twist. Tony _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: james.langdell@Eng.Sun.COM (James Langdell) Subject: Re: Bonzo Dog Band Date: 03 Oct 1996 11:59:15 -0700 Hugh Petfield (tribute@dircon.co.uk) wrote about these Bonzo Dog Band recordings: >They may be deleted now, but Music Master CD catalogue (no, Jack, I >won't send you a copy!) lists the following CD's > >Title / Label/ No. > >Bestiality of Bonzo .. EMI/Liberty CDP 7926752 >Cornology EMI/EMI CDS 7995952 >Dog ends EMI/EMI CDS 7995982 >The intro EMI/EMI CDS 7995962 >The outro EMI/EMI CDS 7995972 > >The tracklist for Cornology isn't shown, but the listings for the other >four seem to have no tracks duplicated. "Cornology" is the name of the boxed set that contains the three albums that follow ("The Intro", "The Outro", and "Dog Ends"). The box is basically just a cardboard sleeve for the three jewlboxes, so you wind up with essentially the same goods if you get the individual CDs. Their five albums are included in this set, along with stray tracks and songs by individuals and subgroupings of Bonzos. --James Langdell jamesc@eng.sun.com Sun Microsystems Menlo Park, Calif. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: Re: Bonzo Dog Band Date: 03 Oct 1996 15:07:14 -0400 RE>>Bonzo Dog Band 10/3/96 Please, Hugh, I think I at least rate a " Yvonne DiCarlo(sp?)"-someone with a little more umph! Doris Day? Rock Hudson, maybe(we have more in common in night-wear I'm sure)-but NOT Doris Day! Next, someone is going to say Debbie Reynolds or something... Re-vamping, Lounge Laura Patrick wrote.... > >Does anyone know if the Bonzo Dog Band's original albums have been >released domestically on CD? Lounge Laura and I *REALLY* need to know. >We both have the Rhino "Best of" comp. and are jonesing badly for more... >>>Laura may do weird stuff, but she's Doris Day compared to the Bonzos! Hugh. e-mail from: tribute@dircon.co.uk (Hugh Petfield) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Grant China Subject: RE: Macarena & Sway Date: 03 Oct 1996 09:22:35 -1000 At 08:49 AM 10/3/96 -1000, Tony wrote: >At 11:33 AM 10/3/96 -0600, you wrote: >>I've been told that this song's actually been around for fifty years or so. >>Can anyone recommend a pre-Beatles version? >> > >I'm not saying it hasn't, but I've seen a lot of Latin, and I wonder if >someone isn't thinking of "Malaguena." It's no standard in any case. Or they could be thinking of "La Virgen De La Macarena", a mariachi tune that has absolutely nothing to do with the subject of the current dance craze. I'm fairly certain (which usually means I'm wrong) that the current "Macarena" that's such a big hit was written just a couple of years ago. Aloha, Grant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patrick@xpedite.com (Patrick Cashin) Subject: Doris Day/Lounge Laura Date: 03 Oct 1996 15:35:43 EDT I know Doris Day, I worked with Doris Day. Lounge Laura is NO Doris Day! She is not Danny O'Day, Dennis Day, nor Morris Day. She's just Laura...and that's enough for me. Yeah, Yoko and me. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stefan.kery@subliminal.se (STEFAN KERY) Subject: Re: Missing tiki dude Date: 03 Oct 1996 21:51:20 +0200 (MET DST) >Bruce Rhodewalt wrote: >Has anybody spoken with or otherwise heard from Allen St. James, aka >Tiki Trader, aka Hawaiiana Trader? I can't rouse him and I can't reach >his web site: http://www.west.net/~tikigods Your not the only one. Maybe he found a secluded island and disappered with all our money? Stefan/Subliminal Sounds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: RE: Macarena, La Virgen de Date: 03 Oct 1996 16:43:45 -0400 >Or they could be thinking of "La Virgen De La Macarena", a mariachi tune >that has absolutely nothing to do with the subject of the current dance >craze. I'm fairly certain (which usually means I'm wrong) that the current >"Macarena" that's such a big hit was written just a couple of years ago. > >Aloha, >Grant Ah yes, the bullfight classic. And you're usually right as rain, and modest too. Dunno which country of bullfighting it came from, but probably some Spaniards or Mexicans would like to elevate it above mariachi status. Praise mariachi, however. Music of the people before lofty, bull-sticking classical. Better flip some more records now and let that poor, put-upon newbie digest the categorization I've inflicted. (I WILL try to abide your preferences, Mr. Nibble, but this one hurts.) Here's a Mexican Brass boxed set featuring: Brasilia, Windmills of Your Mind, Casino Royale, Mack the Knife, Tea for Two, Sukiyaki, Pata Pata, Harper Valley, Light My Fire, I'm an Old Cow-hand and many more. (No Virgens, which is why I actually got it.) Tony, Bad-boy du Jour (or is that Bruce, trolling for Billy Vaughan indeed) _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: greta@dpnet.net (Christa L. Mann) Subject: be nice to Grypa. Date: 03 Oct 1996 17:03:27 -0400 I'm also new here, and I just wanted to let you all know that I am friends with Mr. Grypa and he knows darn well what Exotica and Lounge music is. He's actually writing an article for his newspaper about it and is only trying to get feedback from the experts (you all)... Maybe you guys could give him some honest answers and help him out. I'm already feeling like this listserve is a bit of a 'secret club'... I haven't felt very welcome so far - and something tells me Mr. Grypa is feeling a bit shunned. Please give him some positive feedback - something besides "should we tell him?" Thanks, Greta # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: be nice to Grypa. Date: 03 Oct 1996 17:46:30 -0400 >Maybe you guys could give him some honest answers and help him out. I'm >already feeling like this listserve is a bit of a 'secret club' Rather many of us (e.g., Rev. BROTHER Cleve) belong to and even head several "secret clubs," but you're absolutely right. [Sorry, Cleve. ;) ] Were you to pierce the inner shroud of this highly secretive cabal, you would discover that some of us are plotting RIGHT NOW on a friendly way to draw out all the Larrys and Curlys and shut up the many EVIL MOES like yours truly. Right Laura? Mr. Grypa may be a press spook, but he did ask innocently enough. And it's a legitimate query. Still, he should've come clean. Bruce "whiff-read" his wicked karma, no doubt. And please all, do recognize a joke. Or Grypa'll write nasty. But that said I'm staying out of it, having posted too much on this in days past as well as earned the wrath of the owner, too much in days past. Tony "Shemp-faced" Wilds _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Rhodewalt Subject: Re: be nice to Grypa. Date: 03 Oct 1996 14:45:23 -0700 Christa L. Mann wrote: > > I'm also new here, and I just wanted to let you all know that I am friends > with Mr. Grypa and he knows darn well what Exotica and Lounge music is. > He's actually writing an article for his newspaper about it and is only > trying to get feedback from the experts (you all)... > > Maybe you guys could give him some honest answers and help him out. I'm > already feeling like this listserve is a bit of a 'secret club'... I haven't > felt very welcome so far - and something tells me Mr. Grypa is feeling a bit > shunned. Sorry. My fault. The timing was just so odd -- the embers of a heated discussion about "what is it?" were still warm -- I truly suspected a lurking troll. And there was a bit of CYA, since we didn't really _know_ the answer. My friends and I used to have this thing in the early '80s called "adult music," which basically was what our parents listened to or might have if they had discovered it. TJB, Frank, Arthur Lyman, Martin Denny, Harry Belafonte, Enoch Light, T-Bones, Petula Clark. It basically evolved into anything that wasn't categorized in a large section in an American record store. (Too late for that now, I see.) A lot of foreign music, including Adriano Celentano and other European pop. There is a small and growing FAQ, with a nice outline, available from the Exotica home page: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Lists/Exotica.html Welcome to you both! Bruce Rhodewalt kahuna@tikipub.com ____________________________________________________________ Creative Internet http://www.tikipub.com solutions from... 78-365 Highway 111, Suite 241 * Tiki Publishing * La Quinta, CA 92253 * 1-888-TIKIPUB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bryan Jare Cuevas Subject: Future of Industry - Music De Wolfe Date: 03 Oct 1996 15:22:00 -0400 (EDT) Anyone out there know something about these groovy 10" records I found today....industrial background music from the studios of De Wolfe Ltd. in London between '65 and '68. Much of the music is quite good....lush orchestra, mod guitar, spy jazz, etc. with titles like "Garden Suburb", "Transit Passenger", "Microdrive", "Future of Industry", "Jazzamatic", "Agent No.7", "Mini Mod", "Executive Level", "Blueprint to Progress", and so on...great soundtrack for looking through Diane Keaton's Mr. Salesman. List of titles: (1) American Neutral Backgrounds, vols. 1-6 (DW- 2856/2920/2978/2979/3050/3090) (2) There's a World Going On (DW-3039) (3) Polaris (DW-3029) (4) Panorama (DW-3059) (5) Modern Transport (DW-2980) (6) Living Power (DW-2970) (7) Captains of Industry (DW-3034) (8) Music for Wind Quartet No. 2 (DW-3020) bryan c. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bryan Jare Cuevas Subject: Re: Macarena Date: 03 Oct 1996 15:38:04 -0400 (EDT) According to Lazlo Nibble: > > I've been told that this song's actually been around for fifty years or so. > Can anyone recommend a pre-Beatles version? Can't find one...but in the Beatles era we do have La Virgen de la Macarena by the Mystic Moods Orchestra (Mexican Trip, 1967). For some reason I thought I had one of those Arthur Murray Cha Cha records with a version of the Macarena, but nowhere in sight - oh well. bryan c. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: RE: Macarena & Sway Date: 03 Oct 1996 16:49:23 -0600 (MDT) > I'm fairly certain (which usually means I'm wrong) that the current > "Macarena" that's such a big hit was written just a couple of years ago. Hmm. Well, a friend of mine who I usually trust swears up and down that he heard a big-band version of the track on the local "dance and romance" station that was virtually note-for-note identical to the version that's charting now, and that it was back-announced as an old version. I haven't been able to get any more information than that on my end, which is why I asked here. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: be nice to Grypa. Date: 03 Oct 1996 16:58:58 -0600 (MDT) > I'm also new here, and I just wanted to let you all know that I am friends > with Mr. Grypa and he knows darn well what Exotica and Lounge music is. > He's actually writing an article for his newspaper about it and is only > trying to get feedback from the experts (you all)... When I took journalism classes this kind of underhanded approach to information gathering was generally frowned upon. If he wants information for a newspaper article, I think he should *say* so. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kevin king" Subject: New DC club Date: 03 Oct 1996 18:43:34 -0500 Psst, Don't know if anyone's mentioned this but there's a new club opening in Washington, DC this weekend - Friday to be exact. It's called Mondo Exotica and promises "caged human dancers, rayguns, martinis, ultra-lounge, secret agent re-mixes, forbidden rhythm and taboo nightclub rituals!" Ooooo, sounds like my kinda crowd! 518 10th Street NW kevin king xanadu@radix.net http://www.radix.net/~xanadu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tribute@dircon.co.uk (Hugh Petfield) Subject: Re: Bonzo Dog Band & Laura Date: 04 Oct 1996 00:18:28 +0100 I wrote: >>>>Laura may do weird stuff, but she's Doris Day compared to the Bonzos! Laura thundered: >Please, Hugh, I think I at least rate a " Yvonne DiCarlo(sp?)"-someone with a >little more umph! >Doris Day? >Rock Hudson, maybe(we have more in common in night-wear I'm sure)-but NOT >Doris Day! I may as well confess that before putting in Doris Day, I had put in Mary Tyler Moore. Guess that's not much better, is it? Those are stylish dames, tho' Hugh living dangerously, I fear.... :-o e-mail from: tribute@dircon.co.uk (Hugh Petfield) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Boyd Subject: Missing tiki dude -Reply Date: 03 Oct 1996 18:11:47 -0400 Aloha, I too have been experiencing the same problem with TIKI TRADER,for about three months!! Would hope someone could clearify their situation! I still very interested in contacting them. HANG LOOSE Mahalo ERIC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Subject: more on what is exotica? Date: 03 Oct 1996 19:46:01 -0400 (EDT) ok, so while we're still questioning ourselves on the nature of exotica and jazz and mood music and space age and pop etc. etc... how would "we" categorize the following modern artists? do these people belong in the exotica of the future category perhaps? will some decades later "hip" young kids start picking up out-moded cd's of these currently-un-hipsters?: Kenny G Enya Yanni John Tesh David Sanborn etc... pretty scary thought, eh? kevin leeeeee # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: be nice to Grypa. Date: 03 Oct 1996 19:27:29 -0600 (MDT) >> I'm also new here, and I just wanted to let you all know that I am friends >> with Mr. Grypa and he knows darn well what Exotica and Lounge music is. >> He's actually writing an article for his newspaper about it and is only >> trying to get feedback from the experts (you all)... > >When I took journalism classes this kind of underhanded approach to >information gathering was generally frowned upon. If he wants information >for a newspaper article, I think he should *say* so. Yes, yes, yes. Lazlo is very, very much right here. This is pretty crafty and not really on. And if I had done this at J-school, I would have never gotten by B.J. (Bachelor of Journalism, you pervs!). Also spot on answer from L regarding "What is exotica?" Pigeonholing gets us no where. Yes, I can now clearly see why a journalist would want to get "experts" opinions, but why the hell not tell us? What Grypa didn't realise is there had been some rather heated debates about categories and exotica lately, and his timing couldn't have been worse. It really seemed as if he was "taking the piss", as is said in the UK parts of the globe. My suggestion is that anyone who wants to help Grypa with his article should reply directly to him with their definition, and if he wants to keep on reading what this secret organization has to say, he might get a good idea as well. Jill "the cat is out of the bag" Mingo PS: Wilds, you slay me with your comments! Colloquium Internet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: more on what is exotica? Date: 03 Oct 1996 19:29:14 -0600 (MDT) >ok, >so while we're still questioning ourselves on the nature of exotica and >jazz and mood music and space age and pop etc. etc... how would "we" >categorize the following modern artists? do these people belong in the >exotica of the future category perhaps? will some decades later "hip" >young kids start picking up out-moded cd's of these currently-un-hipsters?: NO! > >Kenny G >Enya >Yanni >John Tesh >David Sanborn >etc... > >pretty scary thought, eh? YES! Jill Colloquium Internet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re: be nice to Grypa. Date: 03 Oct 1996 22:18:17 -0400 <> I agree. Tony, you're toooo funny. LOL LOL LOL LOL Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Kilmartin Subject: Re: Bonzo Dog Band & Laura Date: 03 Oct 1996 22:19:15 -0400 At 12:18 AM 04/10/1996 +0100, you wrote: >I wrote: > >>>>>Laura may do weird stuff, but she's Doris Day compared to the Bonzos! > >Laura thundered: > >>Please, Hugh, I think I at least rate a " Yvonne DiCarlo(sp?)" Yes, that (sp) is correct... :) -someone with a >>little more umph! >>Doris Day? >>Rock Hudson, maybe(we have more in common in night-wear I'm sure)-but NOT >>Doris Day! Doris was cute n'perky... She sure werebn't slinky like our Laura. >I may as well confess that before putting in Doris Day, I had put in >Mary Tyler Moore. Guess that's not much better, is it? Those are >stylish dames, tho' Now Laura Petrie-Tyler-Happy-Hotpoint-Moore!!! Now that's SLINKY!!! That's more like the Lounge Laura WE know.... It's in my nature to prolong unrelated threads (sorry folks... not again...) Joe in TO... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kpundit@aol.com Subject: Kenny G Date: 03 Oct 1996 22:28:16 -0400 Kenny G - a symbol of the threat to & destruction of modern creative music by the mindless yuppie plague. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Gerwitz" Subject: Re: what is exotica/lounge Date: 03 Oct 1996 20:17:55 -0700 Any newbies, oldbees, or Snoopies with at least 16 hours of free time should follow Lazlo's link to the Exotica List Archives and start slogging through the eldritch scrolls written by a cult of weird-eared people whose lairs contain musty crypts filled with shimmering flat plastic. All the arcane knowledge any fearless curiosity seeker could want are to be found there, scribbled by bleary-eyed monks, monkettes, minstrels, and hagglers while hunkered down in dank turrets around shining crystal orbs, peering into the musical Akashic records of the past, present, and future during those dark wee hours when only the devil and his minions are awake, astral traveling to distant and forgotten lands on this island earth, hurtling through the endless reaches of surprisingly noisy hyper-space, chakra-hopping inside their bodies to the beat of a cowbell, swooping lap-steel guitar riffs stimulating secretion of dormant id-essences from their mysteriously vestigial pineal glands, until these intrepid travellers finally wash ashore at the nearest 6:00 AM dive for a breakfast Bloody Mary and a quarter in the jukebox for "Lush Life." Sound familiar anyone? Jim G (no relation to the Dark Lord Kenny) > > could anybody here give me a definition of exotica music, and or > > lounge music? > > > > I left the definition of valid subject matter for this list pretty vague > on purpose -- our time is better spent listening to music than it is > trying to pigeonhole it. If you're not sure what we consider "exotic" > around here, just sit back and watch for a few weeks and it'll become > clearer. > > -- > ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? > # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: Re: Missing tiki dude? Date: 04 Oct 1996 01:58:52 -0400 Don't bother A few of my friends have been ripped off by Tiki Trader Try my zine - Tiki News. There are ads and a retail column and reviews of Exotica stuff plus feature stories tons o photos, etc regarding Tiki Style If you have a story of losing money to TikiTrader please forward it to MoeLawns@AOL.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: Tiki Tones @ 8:30 Fri Date: 04 Oct 1996 01:59:00 -0400 the Tiki Tones will be playing at 8:30 at ther Tiki Show at Wacko on Hollywood Blvd in Los Feliz NOT 9 pm or 9:30 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: Kenny G Date: 04 Oct 1996 02:36:38 +0000 You shouldn't be so nice. -- Jason The Pygmy Taxi Corp http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ Vocod'o'rama http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocolist.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BGlennii@aol.com Subject: the "Good Music Company" catalogue Date: 04 Oct 1996 09:29:23 -0400 Hello, EZ listening fans... Does everybody here know about the Good Music Company, located in Ridgely, Maryland? You should! They license easy listening tracks from RCA, Capitol, etc. and package them into compilations. Some of the artists in their current catalogue include The Three Suns, Hugo and Luigi "Cascading Voices" Chorus, the Norman Luboff Choir, Jackie Gleason, etc. Some excellent stuff here -- don't be fooled by the cheesy CD covers. Worth checking into! Call AT&T Information for the toll-free number. Ben Washington, DC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patrick@xpedite.com (Patrick Cashin) Subject: Re: the "Good Music Company" catalogue Date: 04 Oct 1996 10:33:31 EDT ----- Begin Included Message ----- Does everybody here know about the Good Music Company, located in Ridgely, Maryland? You should! They license easy listening tracks from RCA, Capitol, etc. and package them into compilations. Some of the artists in their current catalogue include The Three Suns, Hugo and Luigi "Cascading Voices" Chorus, the Norman Luboff Choir, Jackie Gleason, etc. Some excellent stuff here -- don't be fooled by the cheesy CD covers. Worth checking into! Call AT&T Information for the toll-free number. ----- End Included Message ----- I CALLED INFORMATION AND THEY TOLD ME THERE WAS NO LISTING. ANYONE HAVE THE NUMBER? I TRIED 800 INFORMATION AND THE LOCAL 410 OPERATOR AND NEITHER HAD ANY LISTING AT ALL. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: guinto@id.ucsb.edu (Marie Guinto) Subject: Re: Kenny G Date: 04 Oct 1996 08:10:17 -0800 > Kenny G - a symbol of the threat to & destruction of modern >creative music by the mindless yuppie plague. After working at a record store this is definately my pet peev. I would have customers ask where the Jazz section was so they could find their "favorite" jazz players...Kenny G and Jon Tesh...yes the horror. Also I once had a customer bring up a Yanni cd for purchase and pointed at his face and said "Isn't he the cutest." Yes it gives a chill to my spine, Marie guinto@id.ucsb.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Grypa Subject: aaaarrrggghhh Date: 04 Oct 1996 11:11:29 -0400 (EDT) ok, ok, ok, i should come out and apologize for not saying more about myself. it is somewhat true that i'm trying to write an article about lounge, but i'm not just joining the listserver to write the article, i am truly intersted in lounge,exotica,(whatever its called...) and i didn't want to come off as some two-bit hack that's trying to sneak around, although it seems i was. i need information for my own self before i need anything for this paper i'm writing for... so, i apologize for the whole misunderstanding. and it's probably true that i shouldn't try and pigeonhole a definition, the more i think about it, the better not having a definitive answer is... i'm rather embarrassed about all of this... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: love from me..to Hugh Date: 04 Oct 1996 11:31:22 -0400 love from me..to Hugh 10/4/96 Now, Mary T. Moore-that's much more like it! I used to have the hair, capris, everything! Doris is a tad waspy for me, as I fight those tendencies every day...but Mary knows how to swing, baby... So- you're no longer in danger, Hugh... Your peace offering is accepted. gimme Moore! Lounge Wasp I wrote: >>>>Laura may do weird stuff, but she's Doris Day compared to the Bonzos! Laura thundered: >Please, Hugh, I think I at least rate a " Yvonne DiCarlo(sp?)"-someone with a >little more umph! >Doris Day? >Rock Hudson, maybe(we have more in common in night-wear I'm sure)-but NOT >Doris Day! I may as well confess that before putting in Doris Day, I had put in Mary Tyler Moore. Guess that's not much better, is it? Those are stylish dames, tho' Hugh living dangerously, I fear.... :-o e-mail from: tribute@dircon.co.uk (Hugh Petfield) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: anita_serwacki@newline.com (ANITA SERWACKI) Subject: Re[2]: Bags Unlimited Number Date: 04 Oct 1996 11:13:18 -0400 >>Bags Unlimited still carries record frames -- they have them in their >>back-cover ad on the issue of Goldmine currently on the stands. Bastards! Last time I ordered from them (which may have been about 6 months ago), they told me they will no longer stock frames and gave me credit. I really wanted to frame my "Brass Construction" album and got quite upset. Guess it's possible enough people have asked for frames that they decided to re-stock them. All that emotional distress for nothing. Anita # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: guinto@id.ucsb.edu (Marie Guinto) Subject: "The Cocktail" Date: 04 Oct 1996 09:01:23 -0800 I was trying to figure out if this was a fun gift, has anyone read "The Cocktail" by Joseph Lanza? or any of his other books ( which I think is only "Elevator Music") Thanks for any input, Marie guinto@id.ucsb.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: garfinkel robby Subject: Re: Tiki Tones @ 8:30 Fri Date: 04 Oct 1996 12:20:10 -0400 (EDT) I saw the Tiki Tones at the Lava Lounge when I was out there last January, in LA. Pretty good. Nice originals, nice cover tunes. I wish they would tour the east coast a bit. It would be great to see them again. How's their new Mai Tai Records CD? I've ordered it thru a local store, but it hasn't show up yet. Robby # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: springer@nyc.pipeline.com (D. Scott Springer) Subject: Kenny G(ee, this music is AWFUL) Date: 04 Oct 1996 17:06:55 GMT >----- Forwarded message (guinto@id.ucsb.edu (Marie Guinto)) -----< > Kenny G - a symbol of the threat to & destruction of modern >creative music by the mindless yuppie plague. > I would have customers ask where the Jazz section was so they could find their >"favorite" jazz players...Kenny G and Jon Tesh...yes the horror. Greetings all: I am speculating that back in the 60s (when I was just a wee lad) record store employees probably sneered when they had customers who asked where the jazz section was so they could find their "favorite" jazz players like Martin Denny. This is not meant to defend Kenny G, rather it is to indicate how low the quality of much of today's music has gone. Denny, Esquivel, etc clearly WERE influenced to some extent by jazz, but ended up doing their own respective things, so it is easy to understand how some hard core jazz fans (otherwise unenlightened about the subtleties of those two) might have looked down on their music. What Kenny G is doing is not jazz at all, nor does it seem even influenced by it. I guess it is called jazz because it is played on a saxophone (if one considers a whiny soprano sax to in fact be a saxophone). The fact that Kenny G is the favorite jazz musician of our president, late commerce secretary and hundreds of thousands of other Americans is incredibly annoying, but what can one expect when "TV Guide" is one of the most widely read publications in the States? Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: springer@nyc.pipeline.com (D. Scott Springer) Subject: (Fwd) "The Cocktail" Date: 04 Oct 1996 17:10:14 GMT >----- Forwarded message (guinto@id.ucsb.edu (Marie Guinto)) -----< I was trying to figure out if this was a fun gift, has anyone read "The Cocktail" by Joseph Lanza? or any of his other books ( which I think is only "Elevator Music") I have seen by have not read "The Cocktail" yet, but "Elevator Music" is excellent. His other book is "The Films of Nicholas Roeg." Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stefan.kery@subliminal.se (STEFAN KERY) Subject: Re: "The Cocktail" Date: 04 Oct 1996 19:30:20 +0200 (MET DST) Marie wrote: >I was trying to figure out if this was a fun gift, has anyone read "The >Cocktail" by Joseph Lanza? or any of his other books ( which I think is >only "Elevator Music") Yeah their both very good. Well written, witty and informative.You should=20 defenitely get them both.=20 This might also be a good idea for all you out there who work so hard on=20 finding defenitions for this music. I myself find categorizing music quite= =20 boring (this might be since I spend endless hours writing my mail-order=20 list) as listening and appriciating it is a individual experience. Listen=20 and feel the music, that=B4s were it=B4s at.=20 Stefan/Subliminal Sounds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@nyc.pipeline.com (lou smith) Subject: Re: the "Good Music Company" catalogue Date: 04 Oct 1996 17:31:43 GMT On Oct 04, 1996 09:29:23, 'BGlennii@aol.com' wrote: >Hello, EZ listening fans... >Does everybody here know about the Good Music Company, located in Ridgely, >Maryland? You should! They license easy listening tracks from RCA, Capitol, >etc. and package them into compilations. Some of the artists in their >current catalogue include The Three Suns, Hugo and Luigi "Cascading Voices" >Chorus, the Norman Luboff Choir, Jackie Gleason, etc. Some excellent stuff >here -- don't be fooled by the cheesy CD covers. >Worth checking into! >Ben I went to www.switchboard.com and checked the business data base. The only listing for a Good Music Company I could find is at 5225 University Ave. Madison, WI 53705-1361 (608) 231-5990 or (608) 231-5992 Is this the same Good Music Co. you're talking about, Ben? -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: Kenny G Date: 04 Oct 1996 12:07:02 -0600 (MDT) >> Kenny G - a symbol of the threat to & destruction of modern creative >> music by the mindless yuppie plague. > > After working at a record store this is definately my pet peev. I would > have customers ask where the Jazz section was so they could find their > "favorite" jazz players...Kenny G and Jon Tesh... The "which bin?" dilemma is one of the reasons I have real problems with trying to pigeonhole music. Given a selection of typical record-shop categories (rock-pop/new age/jazz/vocal/easy-listening/country/etc.), there are thousands of artists for whom you couldn't get any three people to agree which is the "proper" section. I suspect these kinds of categorizations are little more than a sop to jazz, country, easy-listening, etc. fans who don't want "their music" sullied by close contact with the latest Pearl Jam CD -- nevermind the fact that the Billy Ray Cyrus bin is going to be just as easy to find in a shop without categories as it is to find in a shop that has a "Country" section. I can see some value for this kind of breakdown in the various-artists section, but on an artist-by-artist basis I'd really rather see shops just lose the categorization bug altogether. Sorry for drifting a little off-topic here. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sevo Stille" Subject: Re: more on what is exotica? Date: 04 Oct 1996 20:31:59 +0100 > so while we're still questioning ourselves on the nature of exotica = and=20 > jazz and mood music and space age and pop etc. etc... how would "we"=20 > categorize the following modern artists? do these people belong in the = > exotica of the future category perhaps? will some decades later "hip" = > young kids start picking up out-moded cd's of these = currently-un-hipsters?: >=20 > Kenny G > Enya > Yanni > John Tesh > David Sanborn > etc... Well, certainly not all of them. After all, only the best among the = past's unhip=20 musicians had a resurrection in the exotica/lounge/SABP boom. It really = depends=20 on whether their music has any quality when viewed outside of its = original social=20 context.=20 After all, Martin Denny WAS nauseating in his time to people sharing the = musical=20 and social belief pattern of the present exotica revival audience - = because of the=20 social context of his audience, which was parental, oldfashioned, = conservative.=20 Yet he has musical qualities which are very obvious in the = retrospective. It is fairly easy to spot hidden qualities in contemporary music = targeted at people=20 with which we share little to no belief patterns - many strange music = collectors and=20 DJs I know bought into exploitation records targeted at another audience = while the=20 stuff still was popular. However, it is close to impossible to get the = necessary=20 distance to exploitation products targeted at our own peer group.=20 While the unintentional entertainment value of punk cover versions, the = "singing=20 stripper" phenomenon of the mid eighties etc. is fairly obvious to a = high-brow=20 audience, we'd probably have to be separated from radio, TV and social = relations=20 for years just to give a untainted evaluation of Kenny G. =20 And there is really something to be said for distance in time. Some = events I've=20 seen lately advertised as EZ or lounge tried to push the limits of the = EZ definition=20 by playing the more ridiculous failures of seventies synthesizer rock - = and rapidly=20 turned into sentimental gatherings of seventies rock fans. To me, even = some ELP=20 or Genesis can be ridiculously funny - but then I never was into it. The = general=20 contemporary audience obviously is still lacking that distance. So I = guess that=20 the Kenny G revival will have to wait until Hilary Clinton has the same = sex object=20 value as Mamie Eisenhower... Sevo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MoeLawns@aol.com Subject: RE: MISSING TIKI DUDE-TIKI TRADERS Date: 04 Oct 1996 14:38:44 -0400 >Has anybody spoken with or otherwise heard from Allen St. James, aka >Tiki Trader, aka Hawaiiana Trader? I can't rouse him and I can't reach >his web site: http://www.west.net/~tikigods Here is the story from our end. I've been holding out on letting this loose as I'm very patient and understanding (as long as the subject doesn't include the analog vs digital debate, which is why I stayed way far away from that one). However.... On February 6, I wrote a $515.00 check to Tiki Traders for some tiki mugs to give away to record stores as promo for our Robert Drasnin "Voodoo" reissue. We had Shag Lono draw a cool logo that was going to be inked on the cups. Weeks...months went by...nothing. I made several calls to him and he kept telling me that the company he was getting the stuff from never sent the mugs. I told him to send my money back as it was too late to do the promotion. It took a while but he sent a money order for $150.00. He promised the balance by the beginning of August. Nothing...I caught him on the phone a few weeks ago and he promised to send 1/2 of my money within a day...nothing. It's now EIGHT MONTHS since I wrote that check to him. Nothing. I suggest to everyone not to order from him, at least until he pays me back (and several of the other people I've heard from that have had similar problems with him). Lee Joseph Dionysus Records # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BGlennii@aol.com Subject: Re: the "Good Music Company" catalogue Date: 04 Oct 1996 14:48:41 -0400 Hey, friends... On Monday October 7, I will post the toll-free number for the Good Music Company. See you then! FYI Upcoming reissues... October 15: Martin Denny, "Forbidden Island/Primitiva" (Scamp) October 29: Martin Denny, "Exotic Sounds of" (Capitol, 2-CD set ala Les Baxter set) Jackie Gleason, "Romantic Moods of" (Capitol, 2-CD set as above) See you Monday! Ben Washington, DC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tribute@dircon.co.uk (Hugh Petfield) Subject: Re: Kenny G Date: 04 Oct 1996 19:55:46 +0100 >> Kenny G - a symbol of the threat to & destruction of modern >>creative music by the mindless yuppie plague. Agreed! I'd rather listen to 30 seconds of King Curtis than 30 minutes of Kenny G. Hugh. e-mail from: tribute@dircon.co.uk (Hugh Petfield) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: the "Good Music Company"/hu Date: 04 Oct 1996 15:16:32 -0400 the "Good Music Company"/huh? 10/4/96 I've been deleting those posts because I thought I didn't care, or something, but now, my interest is piqued? What, pray tell, is this service? Is it a mail-order CD(vinyl, too, maybe:) service, sorta like the PUBLIC RADIO MUSIC RESOURCE? Help me ova-here! Thanks-happy Friday kids! Lounge Laura-Taylor-Moore laura@wusf.wusf.edu "You fill me with inertia" Hey, friends... On Monday October 7, I will post the toll-free number for the Good Music Company. See you then! FYI Upcoming reissues... October 15: Martin Denny, "Forbidden Island/Primitiva" (Scamp) October 29: Martin Denny, "Exotic Sounds of" (Capitol, 2-CD set ala Les Baxter set) Jackie Gleason, "Romantic Moods of" (Capitol, 2-CD set as above) See you Monday! Ben Washington, DC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: guinto@id.ucsb.edu (Marie Guinto) Subject: Frenchy Date: 04 Oct 1996 12:24:39 -0800 Does anyone know why the Frenchy album isn't out yet? It's suppose to be out on Sept. 20. Thanks, Marie guinto@id.ucsb.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: more on what is exotica? Date: 04 Oct 1996 15:38:17 -0400 At 07:29 PM 10/3/96 -0600, you wrote: >>ok, >>so while we're still questioning ourselves on the nature of exotica and >>jazz and mood music and space age and pop etc. etc... how would "we" >>categorize the following modern artists? do these people belong in the >>exotica of the future category perhaps? will some decades later "hip" >>young kids start picking up out-moded cd's of these currently-un-hipsters?: > >NO! >> >>Kenny G >>Enya >>Yanni >>John Tesh >>David Sanborn >>etc... >> >>pretty scary thought, eh? > >YES! > >Jill DITTO!!! Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: the "Good Music Company" catalogue Date: 04 Oct 1996 14:40:55 -0500 At 05:31 PM 10/4/96 GMT, you wrote: >The only listing for a Good Music Company I could find is at >5225 University Ave. Madison, WI 53705-1361 >(608) 231-5990 or (608) 231-5992 The information I have is: Good Music Record Company P.O. Box 1935 Ridgely, MD 21681-1935 I get their catalog and it matches the initial description of it. I've never ordered, but they seem to have some stuff I haven't seen elsewhere. Can't say much for their presentation, though, so have been reluctant to order until someone I know can vouch for them. The phone number is 1-800-538-4200 7a-11p EST 7 days a week. Let me know what you think of their stuff. Their marketing is poor, but maybe the CD's are good. Byron Caloz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: Kenny G Date: 04 Oct 1996 15:41:10 -0400 At 10:28 PM 10/3/96 -0400, you wrote: > > Kenny G - a symbol of the threat to & destruction of modern >creative music by the mindless yuppie plague. > Have you seen Kenny's new CD yet? He actually needs a shave. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: Kenny G Date: 04 Oct 1996 16:02:09 -0400 At 12:07 PM 10/4/96 -0600, you wrote: >>> Kenny G - a symbol of the threat to & destruction of modern creative >>> music by the mindless yuppie plague. >> >> After working at a record store this is definately my pet peev. I would >> have customers ask where the Jazz section was so they could find their >> "favorite" jazz players...Kenny G and Jon Tesh... I know a guy who works at Tower in our area, and he says it's the schlock like Kenny G. and John Tesh that allows Tower to keep the more obscure artists in their bins, available for sale. They don't make money on Derek Bailey and John Zorn. The tremendous sales of stuff like Kenny and Tesh are what keeps the rest of the sales on the floor, floating. It's sales volume that counts and it at least allows Tower to continue to do what they are doing. Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BGlennii@aol.com Subject: Re: the "Good Music Company"/hu Date: 04 Oct 1996 16:43:29 -0400 Lounge Laura... The Good Music Co. is a catalog-sales company which licenses recordings, repackages them into compilations, and sells them through the mail. Look for my posting on Monday, October 7 for the toll-free number. Ben Washington, DC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: anita_serwacki@newline.com (ANITA SERWACKI) Subject: Re: Future of Industry Date: 04 Oct 1996 16:33:43 -0400 A similar question to Bryan Cuevas' regarding "Future of Industry," awhile back I picked up several volumes to a production music series called Mood Music Recordings, produced by Thomas Valentino, Inc. - I think they're dated somewhere in the mid-60s. One of em contains some real slammin crime jazz tracks, credited to a guy named Bob Donovan. Does his name ring a bell to anyone? Though considering it's a pretty generic name, I figured he could have been composing under a pseudonym to score a little extra bourbon money. Anita # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Grant China Subject: Tiki & Football Date: 04 Oct 1996 12:05:42 -1000 This may be straying from the subject a bit but did you all know that there's a college football player named Tiki Barber from the U of Virginia? I don't really follow college ball much but he is a Heisman candidate this year. He even has his own web page at http://hobbes.itc.Virginia.EDU/~akb5c/ . If nothing else, there is a rather nice picture of a bunch of tikis there. Aloha, Grant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re: aaaarrrggghhh Date: 04 Oct 1996 20:13:39 -0400 <> Don't be. It's not like you murdered anyone or something. Glad to have you part of the list. The only thing I can tell you for sure about the definition of lounge is I Don't Know!! Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MoeLawns@aol.com Subject: Re: Frenchy Date: 04 Oct 1996 20:14:51 -0400 >Does anyone know why the Frenchy album isn't out yet? It's suppose to be >out on Sept. 20. >Thanks, >Marie >guinto@id.ucsb.edu Hi! Frenchy's "Bumps And Grinds" will be out on October 18. It was delayed due to complications with the artwork. Like all things good, it will be worth the extra month wait! Lee # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik@top.monad.net Subject: Re: Kenny G(ee, this music is AWFUL) Date: 04 Oct 1996 20:55:30 -0400 (EDT) D. Scott Springer wrote: >The fact that Kenny G is the favorite jazz musician of our president, late >commerce secretary and hundreds of thousands of other Americans is >incredibly annoying, but what can one expect when "TV Guide" is one of the >most widely read publications in the States? It wouldn't surprise me that Kenny G. is the President's favorite jazz musician. Good Lord, almost *anyone* would be better. Why can't we have a cool President, like Czech president Vaclev Havel, who's into Frank Zappa and the Velvet Underground? There was a cute story about when he ran for President in '92 and was being interviewed by MTV's "news reporter" Tabitha Soren. As the story goes, she asked him who his favorite musician was and he replied, "Thelonious Monk." After the interview was over, she asked one of her crewmembers, "Who's the loneliest monk?" --Jon Johnson erik@top.monad.net North Swanzey, New Hampshire # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Boyd Subject: "The Cocktail" -Reply Date: 04 Oct 1996 20:37:18 -0400 aloha, I own both. they are chock-fulla facts and insite. Buy'm good fun. eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: the "Good Music Company" catalogue Date: 04 Oct 1996 22:14:53 -0400 In a message dated 96-10-04 09:45:20 EDT, you write: >Hello, EZ listening fans... > >Does everybody here know about the Good Music Company, located in Ridgely, >Maryland? You should! They license easy listening tracks from RCA, Capitol, >etc. and package them into compilations. Some of the artists in their >current catalogue include The Three Suns, Hugo and Luigi "Cascading Voices" >Chorus, the Norman Luboff Choir, Jackie Gleason, etc. Some excellent stuff >here -- don't be fooled by the cheesy CD covers. > >Worth checking into! Call AT&T Information for the toll-free number. > >Ben >Washington, DC I'm familiar with them however they are really oriented to the Geritol crowd. Most of this stuff is the material anyone worth their salt would pass up in a $2.00 bin. Sure they have Three Suns, Montenegro and others but it's the really uninteresting dentist music stuff that helped turn a generation onto rock. ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: "The Cocktail" Date: 04 Oct 1996 22:21:09 -0400 I >I was trying to figure out if this was a fun gift, has anyone read "The >Cocktail" by Joseph Lanza? or any of his other books ( which I think is >only "Elevator Music") > Both are excellent. I must say I wasn't too sure how interesting a book on elevator music would be, but I found myself unable to put the damn thing down! And "The Cocktail" is no slouch either. It's a fascinating history of the social aspects behind "the cocktail' - both are well worth getting.Required reading that will point you in all kinds of interesting directions - in fact it's thanks to "Elevator Music"where I read about the 101 Strings "Astro Sounds From Beyond The Year 2000", that I was fascinated enough to get the album reissued! Ashley Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Milne Subject: Re: Missing tiki dude? Date: 05 Oct 1996 12:26:35 +1000 (EST) Please give me the information so that I can grab copies Inc back issues) Regards, Bruce Milne # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: Kenny G Date: 04 Oct 1996 22:27:30 -0400 In a message dated 96-10-04 14:27:02 EDT, you write: >The "which bin?" dilemma is one of the reasons I have real problems with >trying to pigeonhole music. It's easy. Kenny G gets filed in the "Shit" bin. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: the "Good Music Company" catalogue Date: 04 Oct 1996 22:36:24 -0400 Really folks, I don't know why people are getting into a frenzy over the Good Music catalog. I do not mean to belittle the fine records they sell,l but if folks on this list think there's an untapped source to be mined here for cool stuff be prepared to be really dissapointed - this is for the most part groovy stuff for the retiree, Lawrence Welk crowd. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: the "Good Music Company"/hu Date: 04 Oct 1996 22:39:09 -0400 Hey I just realized that there have been more postings on the Good Music Company than by Tony Wilds today....Tony are you on vacation??? Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Milne Subject: Re: aaaarrrggghhh Date: 05 Oct 1996 12:54:32 +1000 (EST) Hi I'm a little staggered by the juvenile responses you've received regarding your request. Pigeon-holing is too strong a word. All forms of music can be listed in genres that can act as constraints, but usually help as general signposts. In my view, Exotica is specifically the music that evolved in the fifties from Western attraction to exotic cultures. At first, this was largely Pacific cultures. WWII (and the number of soldiers that were based in the South Pacific), Hawaii becoming a US state, a number of films (Sth Pacific) etc., were all important contibuters to this. Because of the success of the artists working in this area, and the desire for more, the parameters increased to include other exotic cultures (African, Middle Eastern, Sth American, etc). Musically exotica is defined by its fakeness. It is an outsiders view or interpretation of the other cultures. It's Baxter's Hollywood view of the Casbah at night, not "authentic" middle eastern music. It's Denny's cocktail jazz (for tourists) with Hawaiian touches and fake animal noises, not traditional Hawaiian music. It's the "fakeness" of it that upsets fans of "pure" jazz or "authentic" ethnic music. But it not a musical form that is claiming to be pure and authentic any more than a film like "the Thief Of Baghdad" claims to be. Anyway, that's my view. Regards Bruce Milne # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Rhodewalt Subject: Re: the "Good Music Company"/hu Date: 04 Oct 1996 19:55:14 -0700 LTepedino@aol.com wrote: > > Hey I just realized that there have been more postings on the Good Music > Company than by Tony Wilds today....Tony are you on vacation??? > I'm sure he's drafting his provocative defense of Lawrence Welk. (Saves me the trouble.) Hi, Tony! -- Bruce Rhodewalt kahuna@tikipub.com ____________________________________________________________ Creative Internet http://www.tikipub.com solutions from... 78-365 Highway 111, Suite 241 * Tiki Publishing * La Quinta, CA 92253 * 1-888-TIKIPUB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: huge@sirius.com (Huge Graphics) Subject: Re: Kenny G(ee, this music is AWFUL) Date: 04 Oct 1996 20:57:46 -0700 >musician. Good Lord, almost *anyone* would be better. Why can't we have a >cool President, like Czech president Vaclev Havel, who's into Frank Zappa and >the Velvet Underground? I hear Bob Dole is a real swingin' cat! He loves to party down all night to many of today's most fashionable recording artists. E-David *************************************************************** "It's bigger than big -- It's Huge!" Huge Graphics http://www.sirius.com/~huge *************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pea Hicks Subject: Re: aaaarrrggghhh Date: 04 Oct 1996 22:44:59 -0700 > It's the "fakeness" of it that upsets fans of "pure" jazz or "authentic" > ethnic music. But it not a musical form that is claiming to be pure and > authentic any more than a film like "the Thief Of Baghdad" claims to be. > Funny side note- I just found a record called "The Music of Cleopatra on the Nile" on the Mount Vernon Music label from probably the early 60's which has track titles typical of exotica- "Love Barge," "Egyptian Moon," "Palm Rendevous" and of course "Exotica." The liner notes are pretty hilarious- "Cleopatra was synonymous with all things exotic since the memory of red blooded man was first recorded. Her famed beauty and charm are legendary. In this album of oriental music, we have recreated the musical atmosphere that surrounded the fabulous Cleopatra wherever she went. The aura of lush living is confirmed via the sensuous sound created by native musicians playing the authentic instruments of the time of Cleopatra. Dancing girls with mysterious motions, stir gentle breezes with their perfumed veils as they sway to the strains of this, the most exotic music of all time. Imagine yourself bedecked in golden finery, attended by gleaming Nubians whose only mission is to cater to your every whim, and you will have completed the picture of 'The Music of Cleopatra on the Nile.'" Claims of period authenticity notwithstanding, it is of course a typical pseudo-lounge-jazz-tinged treatment of "Egyptian" music. Either that or those ancient Egyptian bands really knew their way around a double bass and a trap kit!!! Bring on the Gleaming Nubians!!!!! Pea Hicks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dfrisby@mgmua.com (Doug Frisby) Subject: Introductory Test... Date: 04 Oct 1996 14:13:03 -0700 Greetings, I've just joined and I've been reading the Exotica Mailing List for the longest time and have wanted to post and now.... I'm ready! I'm sure you all have already discussed most things I want to talk about, but I'll start off simply by asking my first question.. Does anyone know where on the "net" I can view a album cover scan of "Merriest Of Christmas Pops" with Esquivel and Ray Martin? Since this is only a test, I'd thought I'd save my comments, frustrations, helpful hints, etc. until a later date. Yours truly, "Place Pseudonym Here" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark A. Rosati" Subject: Re: aaaarrrggghhh Date: 05 Oct 1996 12:51:38 -0400 Pea Hicks wrote: > The aura of lush living is confirmed via the sensuous sound > created by native musicians playing the authentic instruments of the > time of Cleopatra. Dancing girls with mysterious motions, stir gentle > breezes with their perfumed veils as they sway to the strains of this, > the most exotic music of all time. Imagine yourself bedecked in golden > finery, attended by gleaming Nubians whose only mission is to cater to > your every whim, and you will have completed the picture of 'The Music > of Cleopatra on the Nile.'" All I can say is WOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!! Thanks Pea for a delicious description, I AM THERE!! I knew ther was a reason I liked this music so much. Now who has the pitcher of Mai Tais? Mark Rosati # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Proposed List Format Change Date: 05 Oct 1996 12:21:38 -0600 (MDT) Given a lot of recent complaints, I'm thinking about switching the list configs around some. Certain mailers apparently make it difficult to send personal replies when the reply-to address is set back to the list (as it is on all my lists). I want to know what people would think if I changed things so that normal replies would go to the original poster and group replies would go to the original poster and the list. Along with this I'd probably start adding the list names to the subject lines of messages that go out over the lists, to make it easier to see where your incoming email is coming from. Please send your responses DIRECTLY TO ME (not the list). If you don't care, no problem -- but it would change the list behavior some and it's only fair to give you some warning of that. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: xander@sirius.com Subject: Bacharach & Zorn Date: 05 Oct 1996 12:27:43 -0700 Well probably not quite. But I recently spotted this among the forthcoming titles in Tzadik's (John Zorn's US label, focuses mostly on avant-jazz/classical stuff) "Radical Jewish Culture" series: Burt Bacharach: Great Jewish Music (2CD) That is as much as I know. Anyone care to speculate? Yes, the brochure was official. Alexander # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Subject: kenny g rulez, man! Date: 05 Oct 1996 22:21:35 -0400 (EDT) fellow exoti-cats, well i admit i was being a little silly by suggesting kenny g could be a future exotica-collector's item. but i was sort of hoping someone would have some good thoughts on this. i mean, really, the comment from mr. pundit below is indeed legitimate (in my eyes at least), but isn't this the exact same thing "hip" people were saying about all the space age and easy listening exotica etc. etc. stuff as it was coming out? seriously, this bugs me. what is the major difference? should i not make fun of Kenny G because down the line he may be considered cool? in my opinion, the stuff we talk about is actually "Good", artistic, creative, beautiful music while yanni and kenny g is actually "Bad"... but it's all in the ear of the beholder right?? right?... uh, hello? actually, it's sometimes hard for me to mentally defend how good some of this exotica stuff actually is. kitsch is kitsch after all.... in fact, this sort of brings up a basic issue that has plagued my mind ever since i started collecting all this retro stuff that was previously considered totally "un-cool". where is that line where something becomes so "un-cool" it becomes "cool"? like, for instance, this 80's revival going on now... what is up with this? is this cool? or not? glam metal is coming back it seems... is that cool? was it ever cool? am i cool if i totally go against the grain here and declare that i love WASP???? (i don't love WASP, btw) what about REO Speedwagon? or Journey? i think the bottom line is we're all pretty damn open-minded on this list otherwise we wouldn't be here in the first place. i mean, there's no old-timer "squares" here... are there? what's really interesting to me is how "exotic" music has become once again extremely popular with mr. and mrs. whitebread american. the difference is people sample world music into, say, a dance tune, rather than try to emulate, say, "the orient" in a les baxter way. is the Macarena the Cha cha of the 90's???! kevin "how do i tell my parents NOT to listen to yanni??" leeeee > ------------------------------ > > From: Kpundit@aol.com > Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 22:28:16 -0400 > Subject: Kenny G > > Kenny G - a symbol of the threat to & destruction of modern > creative music by the mindless yuppie plague. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? > # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. > > ------------------------------ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kpundit@aol.com Subject: Mai Tais for Egyptians? For Kenny G.? Date: 06 Oct 1996 01:29:53 -0400 I don't think ancient Egyptians drank Mia Tai's. Probably more like something made with tanna leaves (particularly if you're a Boris Karloff-type "Mummy"). But it's probably okay to partake in any exotic beverage that will induce fantasy & euphoria. A few more thoughts about Kenny G. & others like him. Certainly, there has always been no shortage of musical crap around - whatever the era. And I'm sure there were many "music lovers" who looked down there noses at what we now know as exotica. However, I'm not so sure that there weren't some pretty hip people that were into that stuff, too. After all, James Dean & Marlon Brando both studied bongos with Jack Costanzo! Where I feel there's a difference now is in the way our overall society seems to be viewing its music, art, films, etc. today. Jazz, for instance, used to be a music of rebellion - maybe not in the same way as rock & roll, but it was not part of mainstream America. It had an edge to it, a "non-conformist", hipster, beatnik, or "various other misfits" implication. It was not safe, superficial, happy music. You went to some scummy hole in the wall that your average "normal" person would never be seen anywhere near. And there were the festivals. Sure, there was inconsistency, but you'd go to hear music & be part of the scene. And you'd hear Monk, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Horace Silver, Chet Baker, Art Pepper & on & on. Now what does a "jazz festival" conjure up? A bunch of yuppies sitting around, wine-tasting & eating cheese, smiling at each other as they have a nice little picnic in their "unthreatening" situation. And look who's playing for them! Obviously, this isn't the whole picture. There are people trying to explore musical hybrids, experimenting. That includes some of the newer exotica-related groups. There is still some good jazz being played by people who are trying to communicate something honest. And there are you people out there who, I assume, if one where to see most of you walking down the street, would not think you were particulary normal. But, generalizing, I feel that in all types of music, as well as the other arts, we're seeing a superficialization & watering down going on. And I think, as art seems to reflect what's going on in a society, we are headed somewhere very bad. Kenny G, to me, symbolizes all this crap. Martin Denny & Yma Sumac never symbolized moving ever closer to a giant human shit-hole. Sorry to get so serious. I enjoy music for fun, too, & like some pretty silly & corny stuff. But I think there's something seriously wrong with the average modern human's brain. Enough. I'm going to go listen to my Webb Pierce-Carol Channing country-western album. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pea Hicks Subject: Re: kenny g rulez, man! Date: 06 Oct 1996 00:51:15 -0700 Kevin wrote: > > in fact, this sort of brings up a basic issue that has plagued my mind > ever since i started collecting all this retro stuff that was previously > considered totally "un-cool". where is that line where something becomes > so "un-cool" it becomes "cool"? like, for instance, this 80's revival > going on now... what is up with this? is this cool? or not? glam metal > is coming back it seems... is that cool? was it ever cool? am i cool if > i totally go against the grain here and declare that i love WASP???? (i > don't love WASP, btw) what about REO Speedwagon? or Journey? > Here's a thought that I've had for several years. It seems that the amount of time between an original musical "fad," it's subsequent death and its inevitable (and often irony-tinged) revival is getting shorter and shorter as people are becoming aware of the fact that that's how this culture works. For instance, it took a roughly 10 or 12 years for the concurrent disco/punk revivals to come about, only about 8 or 9 years for the 80's pop music revival, and seemingly even shorter still for the glam-metal revival. I think it will be interesting to see, given this kind of acceleration, just how fast musical fads will come, go, and return in the future. I for one don't think that there is anything left that can possibly be done that is truly "new" in music (and believe me- I've given this ALOT of thought- could be a fun debate topic!), but it will be interesting to see if any styles start making a comeback *before* they're invented. I always thought it's be a fun project to keep on top of pop music trends in such a way as to start hyping underground revivals of musical styles just as they're breathing their last breath. Glam Metal would have been a perfect guinea pig for this- its death was very sudden and unambiguous. Just a thought... Pea Hicks -- http://www.pilot.com:80/optigan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Ledebur Subject: none Date: 06 Oct 1996 05:53:57 -0400 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBB34A.C76BC060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe exotica Peter Ledebur ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBB34A.C76BC060 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IgQJAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAENgAQAAgAAAAIAAgABBJAG ACABAAABAAAADAAAAAMAADADAAAACwAPDgAAAAACAf8PAQAAAEcAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDd AQ9UAgAAAABleG90aWNhQHhtaXNzaW9uLmNvbQBTTVRQAGV4b3RpY2FAeG1pc3Npb24uY29tAAAe AAIwAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAAAB4AAzABAAAAFQAAAGV4b3RpY2FAeG1pc3Npb24uY29tAAAAAAMA FQwBAAAAAwD+DwYAAAAeAAEwAQAAABcAAAAnZXhvdGljYUB4bWlzc2lvbi5jb20nAAACAQswAQAA ABoAAABTTVRQOkVYT1RJQ0FAWE1JU1NJT04uQ09NAAAAAwAAOQAAAAALAEA6AQAAAAIB9g8BAAAA BAAAAAAAAAMNNgEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNyb3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQSAAQAFAAAAbm9u ZQCwAQEFgAMADgAAAMwHCgAGAAUANQA5AAAAVgEBIIADAA4AAADMBwoABgAFADUAMAAAAE0BAQmA AQAhAAAANjhERUYwQUIzRDFGRDAxMUFBMDM0NDQ1NTM1NDAwMDAA+wYBA5AGAPABAAASAAAACwAj AAAAAAADACYAAAAAAAsAKQAAAAAAAwA2AAAAAABAADkAYAW5SmyzuwEeAHAAAQAAAAUAAABub25l AAAAAAIBcQABAAAAFgAAAAG7s2xKqKvw3mkfPRHQqgNERVNUAAAAAB4AHgwBAAAABQAAAFNNVFAA AAAAHgAfDAEAAAAaAAAAcGxlZGVidXJAdXMxLmNoYW5uZWwxLmNvbQAAAAMABhCE/vzOAwAHEDgA AAAeAAgQAQAAADkAAABVTlNVQlNDUklCRUVYT1RJQ0FQRVRFUkxFREVCVVI8UExFREVCVVJAVVNF UjFDSEFOTkVMMUNPTQAAAAACAQkQAQAAAK8AAACrAAAAEQEAAExaRnV2gnCn/wAKAQ8CFQKoBesC gwBQAvIJAgBjaArAc2V0MjcGAAbDAoMyA8UCAHByQnER4nN0ZW0CgzP3AuQHEwKAfQqACM8J2QKA BwqBDbELYG5nMTAzTxRQCwoUUQvxIHUAgHUCYgTyYmUgZXhvwHRpY2EgUBHABJAkIEwJgGViCHAg PBMLUBsUQHURsHIxLmERcW5uZWwcYQNwPgsKhRUxAB4AAAMAEBAAAAAAAwAREAEAAABAAAcw4CR0 RWyzuwFAAAgw4CR0RWyzuwEeAD0AAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAATGs= ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBB34A.C76BC060-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: Re: kenny g rulez, man! Date: 06 Oct 1996 07:56:35 -0400 At 00:51 96-10-06 -0700, you wrote: >Kevin wrote: >> > >> in fact, this sort of brings up a basic issue that has plagued my mind >> ever since i started collecting all this retro stuff that was previously >> considered totally "un-cool". where is that line where something becomes >> so "un-cool" it becomes "cool"? like, for instance, this 80's revival >> going on now... what is up with this? is this cool? or not? glam metal >> is coming back it seems... is that cool? was it ever cool? am i cool if >> i totally go against the grain here and declare that i love WASP???? (i >> don't love WASP, btw) what about REO Speedwagon? or Journey? One reason almost anything can become cool is that, with time, even the most pretentious examples of music -- those that try and transcend their time -- come to sound like examples of period style. This turns them into mood music and makes them popular culture again rather than someone's desperate attempt to rise above popular culture.. I never thought I'd listen to a Strawbs album after 1974, but now each one of them sounds like the background music to a 1971 party. This is what has happened to moog-classical albums, fusion jazz and now, as you note, '80s big hair metal. Will Will Straw Associate Professor and Acting Director, Graduate Program in Communications/ Director, The Centre for Research on Canadian Cultural Industries and Institutions McGill University 3465 rue Peel, Montreal, Quebec H3A 1W7 Phone: (514) 398 7667; Fax: (514) 398 4934 http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/crccii/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Sando" Subject: Re: kenny g rulez, man! Date: 06 Oct 1996 09:52:38 +0000 Thank your lucky stars my coffee kicked in. I started a long rant about the state of popular music, the genius of Mancini/Esquivel and the lack of "alternate" in alternative rock before I realized it was too ranty! > what's really interesting to me is how "exotic" music has become > once again extremely popular with mr. and mrs. whitebread american. I will say as someone who rejected Blue Oyster Cult and dope for Ella and cocktails at an early age, this revival thing is nothing new. All through the late seventies and 80s there were articles claiming "The cocktail is BACK!" or "Big Band is Back!". The truth is it never left and and every once in a while someone figures out a way to market it in a manner that's palatable to the press and the the sheep. Coconut Grove Media, publishers of MisterLUCKY PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 http://www.wco.com/~coconutg/ "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark A. Rosati" Subject: cross-mixology? Date: 06 Oct 1996 15:08:22 -0400 I appologize to any one I may have offended by putting Mai Tais in the same sentence as Egyptians. Had I known it was improper I would have found some type of politically-correct Egyptian drink. I was just responding emotionally to what I read. I do not have any type of Egyptian culture background nor do I claim to have one, but with my average normal human brain I only know what I enjoy and that is pretty much how I live. Now if you will excuse me I have finish eating my fish dinner, and get ready for tonights Kiss concert. Who brought the red wine? Mark "in full make-up" Rosati # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kpundit@aol.com Subject: apology to Mark Date: 06 Oct 1996 16:32:47 -0400 Mark - I'm sorry my dumb remarks about what Egyptians drink were taken as a criticism. I was just being stupid, trying to imagine what ancient Egyptians drink! I don't have any more idea than you do about what they'd drink;I just remember tanna leaves from old "Mummy" movies. I think Mai Tai's are great &, if the Egyptians didn't have them, they should have! Seriously, I absolutely meant no harm;just dumb humor that backfired. I'm sorry. Yours truly, Pharaoh Ramses XXXVII # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: allmusic@wco.com Subject: NEW ARRIVALS & EURO-SLEAZE SOUNDTRACKS Date: 06 Oct 1996 15:53:03 +0000 A lot of people on the group have e-mailed me about new arrivals, so I'm taking the liberty of making a list and sharing it with everyone--hope you don't mind. I thought everyone would like to at least know about the new Eurotrash soundtracks that have just come out. Haven't read anything about them you on the group--although I'm days behind in reading my mail. Anyway, here's what's new and back in stock at All Music Services, a record/CD special order and search service in San Francisco, specializing in shows, vocals and offbeat stuff. E-mail me privately for more info.... EURO-SLEAZE '60s-'70s SOUNDTRACKS NOW ON CD: Agent Speciale L.K. [Bruno Nicolai s'track to '67 spy film by horror/porn filmmaker Jess Franco] Three Films by Jess Franco [Sie Totete in Extase, Der Teufel Kan aus Akasaua, Vampyros Lesbos] Zombi Holocaust/Emmanuelle e Gli Ultimi Cannibal [2 Nico Fidenco s'tracks on 1 CD; ...CANNIBAL was the last black Emmanuelle film] Roma Violenta/Napoli Violenta [compilation from 4 Italian DIRTY HARRY-type cop films] NEW ARRIVALS--or COMING REAL SOON From the sublime to the ridiculous, in completely random order, for maximum exposure and enjoyment.... [all CDs, except as otherwise noted] The Romantic Moods of Jackie Gleason [2-CD Capitol retrospective] The Exotic Sounds of Martin Denny [2-CD Capitol retrospective] Little Jimmy Scott, Heaven Car Wash, Original soundtrack John Barry, EMI Years vol. 3, 1962-64 Baby Doll [LP only, mint, mono] Sweden Heaven and Hell [LP only, stereo, mint] Electronic Toys: A Retrospective of '70s Synth ['70s recordings of Moog, Fairlight & Korg synthesizers and sequencers, intended as film music] Sam Butera & the Wildest, On Stage! Ken Nordine, Concert in the Sky [LP only, mint] Jackie Gleason [Entertainers label, mid-price import CD, 23 tracks] Various Artists, Stereo Cocktail Scott Walker, It's Raining Today: The Scott Walker Story [1967-70] [Razor & Tie] Wesley Willis, Feel the Power Scott Walker, 'Til the Band Comes In Serge Gainsbourg, Comic Strip Serge Gainsbourg, Couleur Cape Serge Gainsbourg, Jazz Dans le Ravin Sammy Davis, Jr., I've Gotta Be Me: The Best of... 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A Bris do Coracao [2-CD set, live, 1995] Various Artists, Espresso Espresso: A Lightly Latin Brazilian Blend Les Baxter, Cry of the Banshee & Edgar Allen Poe Suite w/ John Cavacas' Horror Express Rodd Keith, I Died Today [more naive artistry from the king of the send-us-your-lyrics-and-we'll-set-'em-to-music genre, a la Beat of the Traps] Betty Page: Danger Girl [22-track compilation of vintage burlesque music w/ 20-pg. color photo booklet featuring Betty; from the producers of the Russ Meyer ST CDs] Norma Jean & Marilyn, TVsoundtrack [score by Christopher Young] Exotic Beatles, vol. 1 & 2 Gert Wilden & Orchestra, Schulmadchen Report Gert Wilden & Orchestra, Schulmadchen Report [12" picture disc] Jeri Southern, When Your Heart's On Fire/You Better Go Now [sensational sultry singer's two classic '50s recordings on 1 CD] Al Caiola, Solid Gold Guitar [LP only, mint, features "Magnificent 7," "Guns of Navarone," "Jezebel," more] Webley Edwards, A Merry Hawaiian Christmas [LP only, sealed reissue] Sout El Hob Band, Belly Dance Party: One Night in Cairo Peggy Lee, In Concert [2 LPs on 1 CD by the quintessential swank songstress: "Live at Basin St. East" and the ultra- rare, never-released "Two Shows Nightly" recorded at the Copacabana] Tonto's Expanding Head Band: Tonto Rides Again [classic reissue of 1st significant release feat. synthesizer music] Ennio Morricone, TV Film Music [Voyage of Terror, Secret of the Sahara, 2 others] Sandy Kane, I Love Dick and My Greatest Tits [2 cassette-only releases by NY cable TV sex hostess and former stripper] Transisters, Goddesses of Pink Rock [transsexual heavy metal] Mercury Blues 'n' Rhythm Story, 1945-55 [4-CD set w/ 88-pg. book] Psychodelic Sounds of Jr. & his Soulettes [avail. on CD and LP] Various Artists, Songs of Steve Allen Bell, Book & Candle [LP only, VG+] Dimitri from Paris, Sacrebleu Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66, Crystal Illusions Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66, Je Me Re Patty Waters, Love Songs [first recording in 30 years by this legendary avant-garde singer; standards] Film Music of Miklos Rosza [incl. theremin score for "Spellbound"] Various, Let's Go with Joe Meek's Girls [Rare tracks by girl singers produced by Joe Meek] George Harrison, Electronic Sound [CD reissue of early Harrison electronic solo effort] Nancy Sinatra, Country My Way [w/ bonus tracks] Nancy Sinatra, Movin' with Nancy Nancy Sinatra, Nancy [w/ bonus tracks] Rockin' Boppin' Ladies, vol. 1-4 [four import collections featuring dozens of unknown and forgotten babes, rockers and soul sisters from the '50s and '60s] Madness Invasion: 48 Trashy, Bizarre, Strange, Stupid & Amazing Tracks From the Late '50s & Early '60s Astrud Gilberto, Jazz Round Midnight The Private Diary of Lyle Menendez--In his Own Voice [2 cassettes] Valley of the Dolls [LP only, sealed] Julie London, Swing Me An Old Song [31 tracks] Dean Martin, Cha-Cha de Amor / Dino [2 LPs on 1 CD] Mamie Van Doren trading cards [36 duo-tone cards] Ace Cannon, Bill Black, Willie Mitchell, Hi and Easy [compilation by trio of lounge combos interpreting Bacharach, Dylan, Cream & Brubeck] Jackie & Roy, High Standards [CD release of LP by husband-wife jazz club stalwarts] Dean Martin, The Capitol Years [2-CD Capitol retrospective] Buddy Greco, Buddy & Soul/Soft and Gentle: Buddy Greco and Strings [2 LPs on 1 CD by the quintessential wide- lapelled lounge lizard] Sound Gallery, vol. 2 Lillian Briggs [LP-only collection--the only one available--by '50s wailer, a female Louis Prima and Sam Butera rolled into one, who also doubled on trombone] We're the Banana Splits [limited edition vinyl pressing] Martin Denny, Forbidden Island and Primitiva [2 LPs on 1 CD] Dean Martin, Cha-Cha de Amor [stereo LP, mint] Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory, Original soundtrack Ray Conniff Singers, 'S Wonderful/'S Marvelous [2 LPs on 1 CD] Esquivel, Merry Christmas from the Space Age Bachelor Pad JAYNE MANSFIELD: The Girl Can't Help It [12" picture disc of Jayne!] Too Hot to Handle [back in stock! 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Kill! Kill! [8x12 Japanese paperback of scenes from Russ Meyer's epic] Birth of the Beat Generation: Visionaries, Hipsters & Rebels, 1944-60 Goldmine Comedy Record Price Guide [incl. extensive history/bio of each artist; highly recommended] Michael Mascioli All Music Services 530 14th St., suite 9 San Francisco, CA 94103 Ph: (415) 864-8222 Fax: (415) 864-7222 E-mail: allmusic@wco.com ************************ "Do the bunch of you promise to succumb wholeheartedly to the merriment?!?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kpundit@aol.com Subject: Egyptian drinks Date: 06 Oct 1996 20:52:27 -0400 Dear Mark & Pharaoh Ramses, I happened to notice your discussion concerning the beverages of ancient Egypt and I'm sorry to say but you are both wrong. Pharaoh, you are completely off target, obviously having been affected by too many Hollywood B movies. Mark, you're much closer but it wasn't Mai Tai's that they drank;they drank Scorpions! No, not the drink. Real scorpions! You see, they had such large quantities of them & someone noticed (I believe it was in around 1850 B.C.) that if you ground them up & mixed them with fermented yogurt, it made a drink that was not only tasty but packed quite a wallop! One would normally drink these drinks through small papyrus straws inserted into authentic looking miniature mummy coffin-shaped cups (you'd get to take them home!) while listening to their favorite Nubian slave group performing for them. And ice! You can imagine what a problem that was! Which reminds me of another very interesting story. One of my colleagues & I were sitting around looking at the Rosetta Stone & we noticed that one of the hieroglyphics looked rather like...Ah, but that's another story. Sorry boys. Yours truly, Dr. Henry Yorkyl, Head Curator, Hoboken Museum of Egyptology # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Lalo at Monterey Jazz Festival Date: 06 Oct 1996 20:18:15 -0700 I though that many of you might find this interesting since Lalo is a god too many of you. This is a review (not by me) that I took off thje Jazz West Coast Mailing list >Warning: totally unprofessional review/impressions of the 1996 > Monterey Jazz Festival ! >Friday Evening >-------------- >Carnegie Hall Jazz Band - Directed by Jon Faddis >with Lalo Schifrin Performing "Gillespiana" > Yeah, they did a snatch of Mission Impossible Theme ! This was a > fantastic big band - it sounded like they have played together for a > while. Jon Faddis was a very good conductor and played some nice > solos, burning occasionally. A change in the front-line horns was > made for some of Lalo Schifrin's pieces. I saw this band in > rehearsals earlier in the week and it was fun to contrast the fun, > playful vibe of rehearsals to the serious concentration of the gig. > Lalo Schifrin has a slight Professor Irwin Corey look about him, to > my eyes. He played his 5 part opus Gillespiana - 5 separate pieces > that all related to Dizzy and, by extension, to the development of > jazz. Although some of the music was a bit too Vegas for me, there > were plenty of moments of inspired soloing (Faddis) and great big > band arrangements. Lalo played quite a bit of piano, with more > feeling and character than chops. > Some of the band members: Lew Soloff, Slide Hampton, Kenny Drew Jr, > Larry Grenadier, Lewis Nash and Steve Turre who is a national > treasure and gave a couple of brilliant solo turns (man, I love > that growlin' !) and was in such great company sitting right next > to Slide Hampton, who still has it goin'. Jon Faddis remarked on > his growing up in Oakland and having his mother bring him to the > Monterey Jazz Fest several years ago, never dreaming that he would > be appearing there himself. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: New Pete Rugolo Score Date: 06 Oct 1996 20:18:54 -0700 Just wanted to let you all know that Pete has a new soundtrack score comin' out soon ;))) >Subject: Pete Rugolo >Pete Rugolo (Stan Kenton's arranger, composer for countless movies & TV >shows) has come out of retirement to score a film called "This World, Then >the Fireworks" for Largo Entertainment. It stars Billy Zane, Gina >Gershon, and Rue McClenahan. It's based on a Jim Thompson novel (he wrote >"The Grifters"), so it's very dark and noir, set in the 1940's. Pete got >together some of L.A.'s top players and recorded all new material for >three days at Capitol Recording in September. I've heard that it sounds great!!! Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: Proposed List Format Change Date: 07 Oct 1996 05:01:25 GMT the change is ok with me. what i would really like to see is some sort of filter where one could choose to NOT see postings by specific members. the list is pretty active and if you don't log on for a couple of days, it can be a time consuming task deleting posts, just to find your real mail. jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: kenny g rulez, man! Date: 07 Oct 1996 05:10:05 GMT On Oct 05, 1996 22:21:35, 'Kevin ' wrote: >i mean, there's no >old-timer "squares" here... are there? i hope i'm not the only one. jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Ledebur Subject: RE: none Date: 07 Oct 1996 01:34:17 -0400 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBB3EF.C91E9180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > unsubscribe exotica Peter Ledebur I'm SO embarassed! I switched over to the digest and then I send this to the wrong address like a total spaz! Please accept my apologies. I finally heard Dimitri from Paris' album and found it to be a bit too "clubby" at times... I don't think I could pay $20 for it (though parts of it *are* excellent). I came across the Mike Flowers Pops CD, too. LOVE IT! If you like "Wonderwall," you'll like the whole thing. Favorite track (by unanimous vote at the store I work at): the Velvet Undeground medley! Sorry again for the faux pas! 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Date: 07 Oct 1996 02:36:55 -0400 Hey, Mark! What's to apologize for? Had you made your "Egyptian/Mai Tai" comment within earshot of a Hollywood movie executive during the Exotica era proper, we'd certainly have been treated to a scene in some blockbuster period piece wherein a pale-skinned Hollywood starlet in Cleopatra drag salaciously offers said "Polynesian" libation to some Charleton Heston-wannabe. I appreciate your comment's slightly perverse convolution. It's appropriate for the background music! Beau di Audeau # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "D.J. Johnson" Subject: Drunken Egyptians everywhere! Date: 07 Oct 1996 04:04:09 -0700 (PDT) On Sun, 6 Oct 1996 Kpundit@aol.com wrote: > I was just being stupid, trying to imagine what ancient > Egyptians drink! I don't have any more idea than you do about what they'd > drink And the REALLY sad part is that now, for no logical reason, I have this strange desire to know what they used to drink. I really REALLY need a life. Deej # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ccarlson@wgl.com Subject: Should we tell him? Date: 07 Oct 1996 08:32:12 -0400 To Mr. Grypa and List members, Sorry my little (pathetic) attempt at humor was taken the wrong way. Guess I should start typing sideways again - :^) As someone else said, the timing of the question was just tooo good, after a heated (medium-well) discussion of exoti-limits and the fact that the post was dead last in the digest version...I couldn't help myself. As to the "closed circle"... well I'm not an expert about exotica, nor do I play one on teevee, but I say, go ahead and post. Don't let the big guns scare ya. It's only rock 'n Roll. Craig # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kgodbout@procept.com Subject: Re: Drunken Egyptians everywhere! Date: 07 Oct 1996 09:19:06 -0500 >On Sun, 6 Oct 1996 Kpundit@aol.com wrote: >> >> I was just being stupid, trying to imagine what ancient >> Egyptians drink! I don't have any more idea than you do about what they'd >> drink > >And the REALLY sad part is that now, for no logical reason, I have this >strange desire to know what they used to drink. I really REALLY need a life. > > Deej > Beer! Beer! Beer! I don't know all the details, but an English brewing co. recently marketed a "special limited edition" beer that adheres to an ancient Egyptian recipe and may even contain yeast culled from a tomb, but I'm probably reaching on that count. I imagine nothing could beat a cold frosty after lugging 1 ton blocks of sandstone up the side of a pyramid under the blazing sun. Not the most romantic concoction to be sure, but how satisfying! Of course, the laboring class may have downed the Bud Light while the privileged imbibed some other nectar equivalent to a peaty single malt. Here's a basic question...Esquivel's "Other Sounds, Other Worlds" or vice versa gives multiple songwriting credits to Joyce Esquivel. Wife? Sister? Brother? Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Rhodewalt Subject: Re: New Pete Rugolo Score Date: 07 Oct 1996 06:37:43 -0700 Jack Diamond wrote: > > Just wanted to let you all know that Pete has a new soundtrack score comin' > out soon ;))) > > >Subject: Pete Rugolo > >Pete Rugolo (Stan Kenton's arranger, composer for countless movies & TV > >shows) has come out of retirement to score a film called "This World, Then > >the Fireworks" for Largo Entertainment. It stars Billy Zane, Gina > >Gershon, and Rue McClenahan. It's based on a Jim Thompson novel (he wrote > >"The Grifters"), so it's very dark and noir, set in the 1940's. Pete got > >together some of L.A.'s top players and recorded all new material for > >three days at Capitol Recording in September. > Couldn't let the name go past without mentioning the credit that I think will really appeal to this group: Pete Rugolo also jazzed up the "Leave It to Beaver" theme for the latter years of that show. It rocked! -- Bruce Rhodewalt kahuna@tikipub.com ____________________________________________________________ Creative Internet http://www.tikipub.com solutions from... 78-365 Highway 111, Suite 241 * Tiki Publishing * La Quinta, CA 92253 * 1-888-TIKIPUB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BGlennii@aol.com Subject: Good Music Co. catalogue Date: 07 Oct 1996 09:33:45 -0400 My dears, I never expected the flurry of postings that ensued after I first mentioned The Good Music Co. last Friday! True, they may cater to the Lawrence Welk/Geritol crowd, and their marketing/design is more than a bit creaky, but the plain fact is, folks, that you never know when you might find something good, albeit in a pile of dreck. Anyone who has leafed through album racks at thrift stores -- and we all have -- has thumbed through tons of junk before that one "gem" surfaces. Such is the case here. For example, I have not seen ANY Hugo & Luigi recordings on CD anywhere else. And so, as promised, here is their address and phone number, offered not as a subject for "high-brow" debate, but rather as one more resource for your investigation: GOOD MUSIC RECORD CO. PO BOX 1935 RIDGELY, MD 21681-1935 1-800-538-4200 Ben Washington, DC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: Proposed List Format Change Date: 07 Oct 1996 15:02:32 GMT wow! foot in mouth once again. obviously, i didn't mean to post this. jack (embarassingly disfunctional) fetterman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ccarlson@wgl.com Subject: Flea Market Date: 07 Oct 1996 11:19:10 -0400 Sometimes, when I get home from the flea, I may think to myself, "No scores today. No surf, no psyche, no garage; just a bunch of weird stuff." That is Exotic. So here is my haul (in chronological order of purchase) for 10/06/96: The first record I bought was No Ka Oi by Leinaala Haili (Makaha M-2051) for $1.00. This music on this record sounds like pop Hawaiian, but it's performed by natives, I believe. The guitar player is the wonderful Sonny Chillingworth (credited with some arrangements and as `slack-key' player), and all the vocals are in Hawaiian. I was a little anxious about the vocals; I was afraid they would be in that quavery Hawaiian voice that sounds vaguely dissonant to me. Well, they are, and they are very affecting; innocent and sweet. This record was a very pleasant surprise, and I recommend it highly. Exotica was well represented at the next stop. The first grab was Exotic Guitars [Arranged by Bill Justis]; (Rainwood R-8051). This is your typical `Exotic Something-or-other disk, with nothing esoecially exotic about it. Versions (and no perversions) of Indian Love Call, Green Door and Sabre Dance (stick to Love Sculpture) among other war-horses. I did not hesitate at the $1.00 price tag, though, because on the cover is a lovely photo of '60s Epiphone and Mosrite guitars. And I like that. At the same spot was The Best of Martin Denny (Liberty L-5502) which is unusual to find for a buck. Or maybe not. I picked it up for the very wonderful photo of M.D. and band on the back cover. I'd never seen them before. Hey! Last stop, I found "Calypso" by The Duke of Iron (The Crowell-Collier Record Guild G-142) which was a revelation. Now I like Harry Belafonte, and I *really* like the Kingston Trio, but all of a sudden, after lo these many, many years, here it is: the real deal. The Dukie rules, folks. This record is scratchy and clicky; it even skips on one tune, but it's great and it is even now being committed to tape for the my listening pleasure in the luxo-cruiser. But even better than "Calypso" (which I knew when I saw it was going to be a treat) is the ultra-cheapo-bad-simulated stereo-cheezy-reissue "Kings of the Steel Guitar" Various (Design DLP-196) Well. With titles like "Oriental Twist" and "Orange Blossom Special", what can you expect? Not what you get, which is a strange mixture of corn and pineapple. It's pretty ovious that there is an attempt to cash in on the Hawaiian craze of the '50s (this release is dated 1962) and the prime offender is Jenks Carmen (I want that name!) who contibutes a couple of Tennessee-accented Hawaiian vocals, but then chips in with one of the deepest, oldest, *antique-est* dobro instros that I have ever heard. I had to play it over and over, as it seemed to come from somewhere deep inside the Scots-Irish-Blues tradition. It's called "Hillbilly Hula". Really. Craig ccarlson@wgl.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: heileson@u.washington.edu (Thom S. Heileson) Subject: plug for show at Anomalous Records 10/19/96 Date: 06 Oct 1996 21:28:34 -0700 For those in the Pac-NW, especially Seattle and vicinity, I'd like to announce an upcoming experimental music performance at Anomalous Records (in Seattle) on Oct. 19. The artists performing are: phASER (yours truly; I'll be doing some layered sample-/loop-based sound collage) Waterbugs (of which Carl Farrow is a member; Carl's other project is inBOIL, and I've always enjoyed his performances before, which have ranged from noise-ish to almost Orbesque) Tinty Music (which is Kevin O'Conner -- what I've heard I guess one would describe as electronic ambient) Intonarumori (about whom I am unfamiliar) Anomalous Records is at 1402 E. Pike St., Seattle. The show is $4 and begins at 9pm. Anomalous' phone # is 206.328.9339. BTW, the place is a shop as well as a venue, and they seem to have a very good selection of interesting material. The Anomalous postcard which announces this performance describes A.R. as "a store, performance space and gallery for experimental, abstract, electro-acoustic, ambient, textural, sculptural, surreal, modern classical and other strange musics." Cheers, Thom _ _ _ Thom S. Heileson //)) //^~ ((// // heileson@u.washington.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan Dada Vis) Subject: Re: Bonzo Dog Band Date: 07 Oct 1996 20:08:07 +0100 >From: patrick@xpedite.com (Patrick Cashin) > >Does anyone know if the Bonzo Dog Band's original albums have been >released domestically on CD? "http://www.anglia.ac.uk/%7Esystimk/music/bonzos/index.html" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Egypt, wine and song of Date: 07 Oct 1996 14:10:06 -0400 >> I was just being stupid, trying to imagine what ancient >> Egyptians drink! I don't have any more idea than you do about what they'd >> drink > >And the REALLY sad part is that now, for no logical reason, I have this >strange desire to know what they used to drink. I really REALLY need a life. mead (Ethiopia's honey wine - Martha Washington made it too!), Assyria's early beer, and grape, plum, and date wine (if not anything fermentable). The "Cairo" LP on Capitol (Around the World series) is a good mood sediment, as are belly dancing records. Teatotaling in de Nile, Tony _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: "Mint" means "sealed," period. Date: 07 Oct 1996 14:42:49 -0400 RE: Observations made recently of the misuse of the term, "mint." By definition, "mint" means sealed or otherwise _verifiably_ never-before-played. As in fresh off the factory lot, not fresh from an estate sale. A record with no obvious wear is "near-mint" (some people say "mint minus"), even if it still has broken plastic wrap. It's an intuitive thing. That said, sealed records are no guarantee of quality (or even the correct record), only lack of turntable wear. Plastic wrap can trap in dust and pressing grit as easily as keep it out. I'd go with a near-mint copy before sealed anyday. Early records of course never were sealed in plastic. I realize it's a big, subjective mouthful to say "near-mint," but careful attention to CATEGORICAL DIFFERENCES is what made the old stuff so great. Tony "Hi Infidel" Wilds _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: New DC club Date: 07 Oct 1996 14:58:39 -0400 At 06:43 PM 10/3/96 -0500, you wrote: >Psst, > >Don't know if anyone's mentioned this but >there's a new club opening in Washington, DC this weekend - Friday to >be exact. It's called Mondo Exotica and promises "caged human >dancers, rayguns, martinis, ultra-lounge, secret agent re-mixes, >forbidden rhythm and taboo nightclub rituals!" Ooooo, sounds like my >kinda crowd! 518 10th Street NW > >kevin king And that's just the neighborhood it's in. Dare ya to enter DC's Underground Lounge! Let us know if it's our crowd or just the 9:30 staff moonlighting. Tony "kapu or kaput" Wilds _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Brigitte, Doris, Laura, animals Date: 07 Oct 1996 15:09:50 -0400 >Laura thundered: > >>Please, Hugh, I think I at least rate a " Yvonne DiCarlo(sp?)"-someone with a >>little more umph! >>Doris Day? Walter Scott --who should join this list-- sez Ms. Day now has joined Ms. Bardot in the rabid support of deserving species other than ours. Laura, what's your position on cuddly lil animals? Will you be sporting fur this winter of animal or factory origins? Is there any fur in FL? Say, didn't Ms. Day do a Holly Farms chicken ad on TV last we saw? They must have stiffed her on the payment. And BTW, if Ms. DeCarlo had had more "umph" instead of just a so-so voice as deep as Brenda Vacarro's, she might have had the greater career. Ms. Day is okay. Tony _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Tiny Tim & Jack Taylor Date: 07 Oct 1996 15:22:34 -0400 TV Guide Online has a brief, on-the-scene Uke Expo '96 quote from Exotikat, uke player, and tiki WWW honcho Jack Taylor on Tiny Tim's recent, heart-stopped stage dive: http://www.iguide.com/tv/rewired/circuits/ [ After reading the bit about how Baywatch has helped amateurs save lives, Jack, I'm counting on you next time to burst through your post-gig buzz and catch the man! ] Tony _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: "Exotica" pigeonholing grumbles Date: 07 Oct 1996 15:40:58 -0400 >Also spot on answer from L regarding "What is exotica?" Pigeonholing gets us >no where. Sorry, Jill. Categorization allows some of your fellow DJs and all others involved in music to get a handle on styles, sounds, movements, and growing/massive record collections. (When someone tells me they're interested only in "exotica," I know what they want, and it ain't Deano.) In Incredibly Strange Music, Martin Denny himself effectively says he "started the whole exotica movement" in pop. It WAS a movement, BIG and INFLUENTIAL and worthy of a term that isn't used just to mean "[evocative of] old pop." Pop artists such as Denny and Baxter have suffered enough indignity. Let them have their day now, please. The word "exotica" can be used in several, conflictual ways, but to say that attempts to define a sound this important are not worthwhile makes me question what is worthwhile. If we're supposed only to equivocate and happily spin our records here, then what the heck is the COMPUTER and this list for? I LOVE the macro, academic analyses by posters such as Will Straw. And so do others. Tony Wilds _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: what is exotica/lounge Date: 07 Oct 1996 16:06:02 -0400 Hate to be so preachy and dry out the luverly sentiment below, but this is a good example of the true purpose of any Net list -- a means of WRITTEN, [broadcast], interpersonal communication. To have good writing and thought, you must tolerate PASSION, contentious viewpoints, excess, SILLINESS, and above all, the awkward practice it takes for [new] writers to find their voices. Relevance, tho ostensibly a duty of the author, is what is in the eye of the beholder. (And reverence is for just some of the artists, some of the time.) At 08:17 PM 10/3/96 -0700, you wrote: >Any newbies, oldbees, or Snoopies with at least 16 hours of free time >should follow Lazlo's link to the Exotica List Archives and start slogging >through the eldritch scrolls written by a cult of weird-eared people whose >lairs contain musty crypts filled with shimmering flat plastic. All the >arcane knowledge any fearless curiosity seeker could want are to be found >there, scribbled by bleary-eyed monks, monkettes, minstrels, and hagglers >while hunkered down in dank turrets around shining crystal orbs, peering >into the musical Akashic records of the past, present, and future during >those dark wee hours when only the devil and his minions are awake, astral >traveling to distant and forgotten lands on this island earth, hurtling >through the endless reaches of surprisingly noisy hyper-space, >chakra-hopping inside their bodies to the beat of a cowbell, swooping >lap-steel guitar riffs stimulating secretion of dormant id-essences from >their mysteriously vestigial pineal glands, until these intrepid travellers >finally wash ashore at the nearest 6:00 AM dive for a breakfast Bloody Mary >and a quarter in the jukebox for "Lush Life." Sound familiar anyone? > >Jim G (no relation to the Dark Lord Kenny) And strap on that faux-fur fez before you go. [Nice stream.] Tony "Speak-Up Mambo" Wilds _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Lewis Subject: NYC Yma Date: 07 Oct 1996 17:04:42 -0400 (EDT) Has anyone heard anything about the New York City Yma Sumac date being rescheduled? Judging by what was done with the last date and the California dates, I don't have high hopes for this... pablito Paul Lewis lewis@netlab.texsci.edu Coordinator of Academic Computing (215) 951-2834 [office] Philadelphia College of Textiles and Science "We do it because we are compelled." -Alan Moore # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Lazlo & categories Date: 07 Oct 1996 16:35:20 -0400 >The "which bin?" dilemma is one of the reasons I have real problems with >trying to pigeonhole music. Given a selection of typical record-shop >categories (rock-pop/new age/jazz/vocal/easy-listening/country/etc.), >there are thousands of artists for whom you couldn't get any three people >to agree which is the "proper" section. I suspect these kinds of >categorizations are little more than a sop to jazz, country, >easy-listening, etc. fans who don't want "their music" sullied by close >contact with the latest Pearl Jam CD -- nevermind the fact that the Billy >Ray Cyrus bin is going to be just as easy to find in a shop without >categories as it is to find in a shop that has a "Country" section. > >I can see some value for this kind of breakdown in the various-artists >section, but on an artist-by-artist basis I'd really rather see shops just >lose the categorization bug altogether. Thanks for revealing this. I have NO problem categorizing and apologize for taking my compulsive experience for granted. Yes, most record stores are way off-base, but one of the reasons my long CD wantlist goes unfulfilled is that the sellers I've encountered (except Rykodisc by phone/mail) have shown little knowledge of inventory, much less content, and dem little boxes are nothing to look at en masse. Searchable text databases -- the serious shopper's friend. Tony "faster pussycategory, shill, shill" Wilds _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Lewis Subject: More on condition Date: 07 Oct 1996 17:23:41 -0400 (EDT) > RE: Observations made recently of the misuse of the term, "mint." This is something that has bothered me about a lot of the collecting fields. So far, from my experience, it seems that comic book collectors are probably the most informed about condition. (That's not saying that eveyone does it correctly). The mint / very good / good designations in record conditions (the same with books) are not sufficient at all... Terms such as VG++ really don't mean anything. I always liked the comic book terms mint / near mint / very fine / fine / very good / good / poor. A lot of the records that I have purchased that were designated as M- or VG+ have fallen in what I would call 'very fine' in comic book terms. A grade of very fine versus fine and near mint would tell you a lot more than VG, VG+ or VG++. Most of the time, it seems that record dealers are struggling with these insufficient condition descriptors in order to inform the buyers about the product. The term mint is really overused and the same with near mint. A near mint copy better look like the shrink wrap was just pulled off. Another thing that I don't think is taken into consideration enough is the value of an inner sleeve. Most of the time, it's ignored by dealers, but I feel that those sleeves (or absence of) should be factored into the condition. The sleeves didn't serve as just protection but often had interesting information about the label or other artists on the label. One last thing about another collecting field: The toy collectors use a 1-10 scale for the most part, which works pretty well. However, I find that most toy dealers don't have a clue about condition and most of the stuff that I have purchased has been misgraded. I think record and comic book dealers have been more honest in that regard. Enough condition rants for today... :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Post-happy Ashley Date: 07 Oct 1996 16:54:06 -0400 At 10:39 PM 10/4/96 -0400, you wrote: >Hey I just realized that there have been more postings on the Good Music >Company than by Tony Wilds today....Tony are you on vacation??? > >Ashley Yeah, yeah. Look, I batch bc my life is hard (crime, death, krazy kittens, unstarted web sites, etc.). The nightmare of my pontificating may subside any second now. You should talk, dissing geriatric music, Kenny G, etc. like that. Boy, it's hard to achieve and maintain distinction on this list. Glad to be missed, at any rate. So where's secretive Slackmaster Cleve, slumming in that ComEd band again? Tiki Bruce, got Billy Vaughan's Latin Favorites LP? Tony "High Epopt" Wilds _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Larry Welk Date: 07 Oct 1996 17:03:11 -0400 >I'm sure he's drafting his provocative defense of Lawrence Welk. (Saves >me the trouble.) > >Hi, Tony! > >-- >Bruce Rhodewalt >kahuna@tikipub.com Oh man, Bruce, do you know how to bait a boy. There is ONE Welk LP on Coral (it has both Taboo and Quien Sera/Sway) that I keep defiantly and proudly. But George Cates, Myron Floren, Buddy Merrill, and a few other Welkmen are not always something to sneeze at. (A "draft" pun, tee hee, Bruce.) Tony "provocateur extraordinaire" Wilds Speaking of the French, epicureans might like to try "Mountain Chicken" when visiting the Caribbean. It's a large frog, baked. (Not a "mountain oyster.") _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Joyce Esquivel Date: 07 Oct 1996 15:04:24 -0700 >Here's a basic question...Esquivel's "Other Sounds, Other Worlds" or vice >versa gives multiple songwriting credits to Joyce Esquivel. Wife? Sister? >Brother? > Kevin Wasn't that More Other Worlds Other Sounds ? Jack PS Trying to get away from the Tax Man or sumthin' ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Pete Rugolo Date: 07 Oct 1996 15:04:31 -0700 Richard Diamond TV series score too!!! (no relation) Arranged the music for the film Jack the Ripper (also no relation ) and then there's the TV show that Boris Karloff narrated - Thriller and a bunch of other cool shit too Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: anita_serwacki@newline.com (ANITA SERWACKI) Subject: Re: NYC Yma Date: 07 Oct 1996 17:31:16 -0400 >>Has anyone heard anything about the New York City Yma Sumac date being >>rescheduled? Judging by what was done with the last date and the >>California dates, I don't have high hopes for this... Someone at the Supper Club told me it was being rescheduled for January (?!). Something tells me I better just stop holding my breath, kick back, stir up a cocktail and slap "Mambo" on the hi-fi. Anita # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Lewis Subject: Re: NYC Yma Date: 07 Oct 1996 20:24:39 -0400 (EDT) > Someone at the Supper Club told me it was being rescheduled for > January (?!). Something tells me I better just stop holding my > breath, kick back, stir up a cocktail and slap "Mambo" on the > hi-fi. I'm trying to not get annoyed at this whole thing, BUT it is pretty irritating when you pay a nonrefundable $4 service charge for cancelled show. Not only that, Ticketbastard makes you return the ticket to the point of purchase, not just to any outlet. Now we have no date rescheduled either. I think I'll just forget about it until I see it pop up in the Village Voice. pablito P.S. : Hey, at least we can still see ComEd ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: "Exotica" pigeonholing grumbles Date: 07 Oct 1996 17:52:46 -0600 (MDT) >>Also spot on answer from L regarding "What is exotica?" Pigeonholing gets us >>no where. > >Sorry, Jill. Categorization allows some of your fellow DJs and all others >involved in music to get a handle on styles, sounds, movements, and >growing/massive record collections. (When someone tells me they're >interested only in "exotica," I know what they want, and it ain't Deano.) In response, exotica is a term that can conjure up many different things to many different people as has been widely discussed on this list. Categories become fragmented and very narrow subcategories spring up as has also been discussed in recent past. After a while, just what purpose DO these categories serve? You may as just refer to the artist, the release and even the track directly. At the moment, I am listening to the new JIMI TENOR release. My category for this is 90s electro-jazz sleazy listening. And this many would agree is in fact an accurate description. But just what the hell does it mean? And just who the hell else fits into it? That's why I say "pigeonholing gets us no where". The exotica mailing list might refer to exotica in the strict sense, a 50s phenomenon with the phrase coined by Martin Denny including bird calls and pseudo-Polynesian sounds. But this same music might also be linked to jazz, pop, world and 50's-60's nostalgia. Exotica influences are in many kinds of music as well. I have to "sell" music to journalists for a living as a press officer. And I do my best to come up with the most abstract definitions of the sounds for my press releases as possible, that still, in fact, give an accurate description of the release. Music should be listened to with an open mind, and when labels are given, sometimes restrictions and preconceptions are implied that were never intended. I think most people on this list discuss interesting music that vaguely is exotica or would be interesting to people in to that "sort of thing". But of course, categories also serve as guidelines and vague descriptions to help us decide whether or not it might be of interest to us. IMHO, I think a lot of people sometimes can take this all way too far though. You like the music or you don't. It's all very subjective, and so, too, are most categories. Jill Colloquium Internet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) Subject: Re[2]: Tikis on T.V./monkees Date: 07 Oct 1996 20:06:03 -0400 >Speaking of the Monkees, I just got a CD with Perez Prado doing a Mamboized >version of The Monkees Theme. >I can't remember the name of the CD... something in spanish meaning "two-fer". I just got back from Mexico (Esquivel sends his greetings to all his fans), where I encountered these at the BMG/RCA office. The series is titled "Las Estrellas del Fonografo" ("The Stars of....well, you understand) and they are "2 en Uno". There are 75 volumes issued, each containing two LP's by a Mexican artist of the 40's - 60's. Included in the series are CD's by Perez Prado, Pedro Vargas, Beny More, Pablo Beltran Ruiz, etc etc. Yes, there is an Esquivel CD. It contains the complete "Latin-Esque" and "To Love Again" (10 tracks out of 12). I do not know if these will be exported out of Mexico. The catalog # on this is 7432 13223322 (It is also available on cassette, which would change the last # to 3) In other Esquivel news, he has completed an arrangement of "Singing In the Rain", and is working on "Bye Bye Blackbird". "Merry Christmas From The Space-Age Bachelor Pad" [Bar/None AHAON 083] is scheduled to be released on October 15. Feliz Navidad, baby. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stefan.kery@subliminal.se (STEFAN KERY) Subject: Re: "Mint" means "sealed," period. Date: 08 Oct 1996 02:08:19 +0200 (MET DST) So why call a sealed record mint then? Why not use the usuall term ss (still= =20 sealed). Stefan "midnight record grading session" K=E9ry/Subliminal Sounds=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stefan.kery@subliminal.se (STEFAN KERY) Subject: Re: "Exotica" pigeonholing grumbles Date: 08 Oct 1996 02:12:15 +0200 (MET DST) Back in the 50=B4s Exotica was called "Entertainment Music" in Sweden. Stefan/Subliminal Sounds =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: Re: "Exotica" pigeonholing grumbles Date: 07 Oct 1996 20:30:04 -0400 Well, too many years of reading interviews with musicians has taught me that there's nothing more irritating than the performer or dj who, sitting at the very centre of some obviously identifiable movement, goes on about how he/she resists labels and only plays what he/she likes. ("Ska revivalists, us? No, no, we just happen to dress like this and play this kind of music.") One of the things I've liked so much about dance music over the last 10 years is that what drives it forward is the coalescence around new categories which temporarily win consensus. And if the scope and meaning of 'exotica' keep shifting, that's part of the interest. Who would have thought, even two years ago, we'd be running around and showing off the soundtracks to early 1970s softcore flicks? I like the implicit game of chicken that's going on, especially in Europe, as we try and see how deep into the 1970s we can go and still find stuff worthy of rediscovery, without ending up in something that sticks to our shoes. Will Will Straw Associate Professor and Acting Director, Graduate Program in Communications/ Director, The Centre for Research on Canadian Cultural Industries and Institutions McGill University 3465 rue Peel, Montreal, Quebec H3A 1W7 Phone: (514) 398 7667; Fax: (514) 398 4934 http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/crccii/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: poot! Subject: Pete Rugolo Date: 07 Oct 1996 18:21:37 -0700 >Couldn't let the name go past without mentioning the credit that I think >will really appeal to this group: Pete Rugolo also jazzed up the "Leave >It to Beaver" theme for the latter years of that show. It rocked! >-- >Bruce Rhodewalt >kahuna@tikipub.com Pete Rugolo also did the *classic* Space-A-Delic dance number - used in one of the later Lost In Space shows, "The Promised Planet". This episode featured the Robinsons visiting a planet run by hippies (aliens in disqguise). Dr. Smith grows his hair long and wears love beads. "I'm way out, man, like the rest of you cats!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan Dada Vis) Subject: Re: Bonzo Dog Band Date: 07 Oct 1996 20:08:07 +0100 >From: patrick@xpedite.com (Patrick Cashin) > >Does anyone know if the Bonzo Dog Band's original albums have been >released domestically on CD? "http://www.anglia.ac.uk/%7Esystimk/music/bonzos/index.html" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: Flea Market - Duke of Iron! Date: 07 Oct 1996 22:33:41 -0400 > Last stop, I found "Calypso" by The Duke of Iron (The Crowell-Collier > Record Guild G-142) which was a revelation. > after lo these many, many years, here it is: the real deal. The Duke > rules, folks. Yes, the Duke of Iron (neither The Mighty Duke nor the Iron Duke, two other calypsonians) was easily the best and deservedly one of the most popular -- on 78, 45, 10" 33, 12" 33, and maybe other formats. He was on RCA and Monogram and others, so it's not like he was obscure or anything. And on a lot of comps, the vinyl kind. [You'll get more on him and a guide to the best calypso acts/records soon.] The record you mention is wonderful but unfortunately features none of his "killers"; you have more to look forward to! > somewhere deep inside the Scots-Irish-Blues tradition. It's called > "Hillbilly Hula". Really. The Polynesians (Crown's ubiquitous hapa-haole Hawaiian act) did a version of "Loch Lomond" that's quite funny. Don't miss their "Hawaiian Tale" at any cost. Tony "island boy" Wilds _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) Subject: Re: Joyce Esquivel Date: 08 Oct 1996 00:35:44 -0400 >>Here's a basic question...Esquivel's "Other Sounds, Other Worlds" or vice >>versa gives multiple songwriting credits to Joyce Esquivel. Wife? Sister? >>Brother? >Wasn't that More Other Worlds Other Sounds ? >Jack Right again, Jack. Joyce was Esquivel's first American wife (2nd or 3rd overall, depending on who's answering). A common thing back in the days was to pass off songwriter credits to family for tax purposes (Many of Allen Tousaint's compositions are credited to his mother, Naomi Neville, for example). br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: viktrola@usa.nai.net (Vik Trola) Subject: Vik's Newsletter Date: 08 Oct 1996 01:25:43 -0500 My, my, my...it has been a while since Vik has a chance to work on the lounge. Jet-setting to a chalet in Austria for a metting with a secret kabal of collectors, catching Joey Altruda at Tavern On The Green, lounging at Bar d'O...it's been a wild and swinging few months. Fear not, though, friends, Emilio DePesto continues the re-decoration of Vik's and October hasd been declared Scamp Month... =========================================================================== October Is Scamp Month (http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/scamp.html) One whole year...12 swinging months...and Scamp keeps going. It has been an amazing year of the exotic, strange and swank from the cats and kittens at Scamp. Emilio has turned his skills to the Scamp Room...knocking out several walls...and tranforming it into the Scamp Airport Lounge. Drop by and soak in the new design and enter two (count'em TWO) swell contests. Scamp's buying drinks and giving you the chance to win one of seven recent releases. Get in touch with the poet within you and win the rare Scamp Passport sampler. =========================================================================== The Jet Set (http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/jet.html) New destinations...Jet Set NYC opens...October at KANU...and Inflight Entertainment expands with features on The Karminsky Experience, Dimitri From Paris and Easy Tempo Vol. 1 =========================================================================== You're in with the In-Crowd {http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/incrowd.html) The In-Crowd's been mighty busy of late. Michael Toth was kind enough to send Vik a lovely scrapbook from the Enoch Light Birthday Party. Combustible Edison returns to the road and Vik has tour dates plus swinging reviews from their west coast tour. Everyone's favorite lounge mistress, Lounge Laura, stops by to report on the mighty Friends of Dean Martinez in Tampa, Florida. =========================================================================== It's Autumn in The Ultra Lounge (http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/ultrafall.html) Those swingings at Capitol keep it coming with four new additions to the Ultra-Lounge series. Holiday music, Martin Denny, Jackie Gleason and something covered in leopard skin...something to help everyone stay warm in the chilly autumn months. =========================================================================== Hot News For Swank Times (http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/mnews.html) Seems the fall is going to be just as busy as the rest of the year. As we wind 1996 to a close, the march of swank releases continues. Dionysus will bring you the surf / drag of The Boss Martians and the klezmer crime jazz of The Kabalas. Sympathy For the Record Industry will be releasing a full length from Henri's favorite jeune fille...April March. Crippled Dick Hot Wax, the swank German hipsters resopnsible for Vampyros Lesbos and Schulmadchen, have many new and swinging re-issues. Asphodel charts the future of mood music with the first of its Illbient releases. Looking for holiday music? Brother Cleve lets you in on the new Esquivel Christmas album from Bar None. Although not due until next year, Irwin Chusid lets you in on the next Golden Throats collection...Butchering the Baetles. Everyone has a compilation series (or so it seems), and Polygram leaps into the fray with Mondo Lounge. So, all you own it a turntable and all you buy is vinyl...then you definitely need R. Preston Peek's Vinyl Lives! catalog, and Vik's has info on how to get it. =========================================================================== The Casino Biscotti (http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/casino.html) Things have been a little quiet around the casino lately, but that's about to change. Emilio DePesto has also added a Winners Lounge to the casino. If you haven't yet, drop by and help Patrick come up with a swinging lounge nickname (or check out the suggestions so far). As mentioned above, Scamp has two swell contests running, so don't miss your opportunity to win big. And look for an Oranj Symphonette giveaway coming soon! =========================================================================== COMING SOON>>>An expanded bandstand...the kitchen gets a new look...Jet Set NYC expands...Betty Page...Audrey Hepburn...and more in the Ultra Lounge... =========================================================================== "There are only two genres in ALL of recorded history: MUSIC and NOT MUSIC" - unidentified record industry database manager =========================================================================== in swank, Vik Vik Trola's Lounge Of Self Indulgence http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/lounge.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BGlennii@aol.com Subject: Re: Pete Rugolo Date: 08 Oct 1996 09:14:45 -0400 Pete is an old family friend of mine, and besides being talented, he's a really nice man, too. He recently gave me a copy of the "Thriller" soundtrack! Ben Washington, DC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: Stock, Hausen and Walkman Date: 08 Oct 1996 07:48:29 -0600 (MDT) > >Does anyone know *anything* about them? They attracted my interest with >the album cover and jokey name. I've asked people who *should* know, but >all I could come up with is that they've been around for a while and that they >may be connected with Coldcut. (Jill? Anyone?) At long last, a reply on this. I don't recall anyone else replying on this one. Most of this band originate from Manchester area of England, but one of 'em is from nearish Berlin. There previous music has been more of an avant garde nature. This is their first release to incorporate this sort of sound, but a follow-up is coming, and it will be more along these lines. Some of their previous music was more of an "art noise" nature that people might stroke their chins to and discuss, if you know what I mean. I don't know of any connections to Coldcut though. They have been written about in THE WIRE, and more liked my serious musical types, even though, this release - I am told, I don't have it - is of a much more "fun" nature. Also, do not think I am dissing this sort of scene as I am also kinda a part of it! I am merely stating the facts as I know (little!) of 'em. Hope this helps. Jill Colloquium Internet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Jack's playlist for Sept.8,1996 Date: 08 Oct 1996 08:42:44 -0700 KFJC play list 9/8/96 for Jack Diamond ARTIST TRACK ALBUM Planets Chunky* Dave Pell Ensemble Bob Gordon, Ray Sims-Tpt (Zoot's brother) D.Fagerquist(Mancini) Mike's Peak June 17, 1955 Paris Studio Group Acctoiche' Toi, Caroline* Sound Gallery 2 Gene Ammons Canadian Sunset 1960, Prestige Vinnie Bell The World We Knew Electric Sitar Drasnin, Robert Warm Night Wind* Voodoo! Dorothy Remson-Harp Ronny Lang-Flute Drasnin-Piccolo Esquivel Breeze & I* More O.W.O.S. Esquivel Chant of the Night* Reprise, 1962 35MM Film rec process Nino Rota La Dolce Vita, Finale Tony Hatch Sound Man Alive* U.K. T V Emil Richards Hava Nagila New Time Element Muzzy Marcellino Call of the Birdwatchers Liberty W/ Russ Garcia Orch. See it on my web page Lalo Schifrin Medical Center Moog! Gert Wilden Gettin' Blue* Schumalchden 1 Dick Hyman Sonny Boy Fabulous, Command Fabulous Jokers Saturnus Monument, Wordless Hugo Montenegro Lady in Cement Wordless Serge Chaloff Sextet Sergical Kenton Presents Marty Gold/Walter SearIn My Life Moog the Beatles Gil Evens,Cannonball Frank Rehak (L.Armstrong title) Struttin' W/ Some B-B-Q 58,World Pacific Isabella Rossalini Blue Velvet* Blue Angelo Badalamenti Night Streets Velvet ;-/> Pierro Piccioni Tenth Victim, Main Title The Chase 101 Strings Whiplash* Astro Sounds... Mancini Orch. with Mike Pacheco-Bongos Jack Costanzo-Congas Dave Pell-Bari Sax Barney Kessel- Plas Johnson-Tenor Red Norvo-Vibes Guitar Pete Candoli-Trumpet Touch of Evil* The Saint Orch. Funko Pete Rugolo Orch. W/ Jack Costanzo-Bongos Bongo Riff Percussion at Work Mancini Baby Elephant Walk Hatari! J.Bryant & Speedy West Speedin' West 54/CAPITOL Keith Williams I Want to Live Joe Puma Qnt Rigamarole Mat Mathews-Accordian Pete & Conte Candoli Barney Kessel Way Out Calypso Jack Lemmon-Bongos (B B & C) Bell Book and Candle Jim Gordon Rite of Passage Huebner, Louise Coleopterus Charm *Seduction Through For Romantic Adventure ;-)> Witchcraft Roland Shaw Orch Goldfinger Roy Budd Orch The Car Chase* Easy Project Vol 2 Mystery Track ??? Bobby Christian Orch Space Age Suite Outer Space EZ Listening John Andrews Tartaglia Light My Fire* Electric Sitar Sound Gallery 2 Ananda Shankar Jumpin Jack Flash Electric Sitar Mancini The Party Vocal Astro Sounds* Astral Freakout + Same Freakin' Animated Egg A Love Built on Sand + Tune!!!!! Pete Rugolo Diamond on The Move KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 http://www.kfjc.org Click on DJ playlists OR find DJ Homepages and click on the House of Games ;-/> dig it 11 out of 43 titles above available on CD * denotes avaiable on CD as far as I know BUT I don't have the time to talk about it, OK ? ;)) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: "Exotica" pigeonholing grumbles Date: 08 Oct 1996 12:07:54 -0400 At 05:52 PM 10/7/96 -0600, you wrote: > >That's why I say "pigeonholing gets us no where". The exotica mailing list >might refer to exotica in the strict sense, a 50s phenomenon with the phrase >coined by Martin Denny including bird calls and pseudo-Polynesian sounds. >But this same music might also be linked to jazz, pop, world and 50's-60's >nostalgia. Exotica influences are in many kinds of music as well. > >I have to "sell" music to journalists for a living as a press officer. And I >do my best to come up with the most abstract definitions of the sounds for >my press releases as possible, that still, in fact, give an accurate >description of the release. Music should be listened to with an open mind, >and when labels are given, sometimes restrictions and preconceptions are >implied that were never intended. Well, that's all well and good Jill, but there are prices to be paid for everything, music included. And one of those prices for music is the term, categories. Free music, free borders, free love, etc.. all have consequences. Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: Joyce Esquivel Date: 08 Oct 1996 09:10:36 -0700 Forgot to mention that Joyce WAS Juans wife ;) Oops! Hey, I'm hip...like the rest of you cats Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tribute@dircon.co.uk (Hugh Petfield) Subject: Kenny G(rot) Date: 08 Oct 1996 19:49:14 +0100 Heard on the radio today in London: "...get the brand new album from Kenny G, the world's favourite instrumentalist...." Eeeek! On another newsgroup, Kenny got another mention, this time more appropriately. The subject was: "How to win the war against "Make Money Now" SPAMMERS" and the guy who posted it suggested: "Take action now, fellow (8-)trackers! Kill the pyramid scheme scumbags. Take away their computers and make them listen to Kenny G. CD's on headphones while typing I WILL NOT SPAM over and over on an IBMSelectric III typewriter with an old, crinkled ribbon." What an exquisite punishment! Hugh. (Member #000001 of the LTM fan club). e-mail from: tribute@dircon.co.uk (Hugh Petfield) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lucien@interport.net (Lucien Samaha) Subject: Al Caiola Date: 08 Oct 1996 17:07:34 -0500 Just catching up on older digests. Saw postings on Al Caiola. I have lots, and most are great. I was in Vegas a couple of years ago for a convention, and while everyone else went to see Siegfried and Roy, I decided to check out Steve and Eydie at the Desert Inn. Lots of Big Hair, and Blue Hair, the show was fantastic. Lots'o laffs. Anyway, I nearly fell off my chair when Steve Lawrence started to introduce the band members and presented the "WHITE HAIRED" guitar player as his old friend Al Caiola. On all the records that I have, Al is bald. Maybe he's trying to look like Siegfried, or is it Roy?? Anyway, he was alive a couple of years ago, and still doing Vegas. Oh Thank God for Vegas. lucien # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bodiodo@aol.com Subject: Re: "Exotica" pigeonholing grumbles Date: 08 Oct 1996 19:55:40 -0400 <> Me too! Pithy ain't bad, neither! Beau di Audeau # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Mr. Smooth Goes Shopping Date: 08 Oct 1996 19:37:19 -0500 The Mr. Smooth Hour on High Plains Public Radio is now about 33 percent my own LPs, 33 percent my own CDs and 33 percent station recordings. This was helped in the last two weeks by a trip to Iola and Wichita Kansas when I obtained these jewels, lesser stones and gravel (in order of preciousness): Echoing Voices and Trombones, Don Costa, Ultra Audio/United Artists WWS 8501 This is from a series of Ultra Audio releases (or so says the sleeve info) that sound quite interesting. No words, both men and women and great stereo effects here! Dance!, Joe Loco and his Pachanga Band, Sunset (Liberty) SUS 5133 I didn't like the cover much, but the selections were pretty good. Music of the Islands, The Mauna Loa Islanders, RCA LSP 2061 "Living Stereo" 1959 Nice, although somewhat bland cover art of a barely clothed young Hawaiian woman. There's alot of humor mixed into all the selections. I was disappointed that the Living Stereo banner did not top the album. I guess LS releases didn't all have that. Ping Pong Percussion and the Harmonica, Eddy Manson, Promenade 2230 Although the music is not that exciting in general, the harmonica with the percussion keep it interesting through most of the material. More Ros on Broadway: Latin American Tempos for Dancing, Edmundo Ros and his Orchestra, London PS 173 This turns out to be my second Ros LP, this one in stereo. Not great, but it does move. The New Sound of Music: Percussive Stereo, (sampler), Medallion (Kapp) MS-1 This samples another exotica/percussion/stereo-testing label like Ultra Audio. I would have to say its not as good a series based on this sampler. About the only cut I really liked was "On the Street Where You Live" by Percussion Unlimited. Music with Sound, Time Series 2000 Demonstration Record TSD-3 Just about as good as MS-1 above. Hugo Montenegro's stuff was the best. Cha Cha Cha, Art Mooney and his Big Band (in "True Stereo"), Coronet CXS 138 The music was so so. The best part was the cover...a dancer wearing a colorful strapless dress. Music of Hawaii, Henry Mancini, RCA LSP 3713 (Dynagroove, 1966) There may be a cut or two I can use, but most of it is too lush for Mr. Smooth (who likes to put in a lot of percussion and keep out the strings). Project 3: Popular Science Test Record, Total Sound, PR401 CD-4 This is a quadrophonic test record, but it sounds good in stereo. However, I only liked one cut "Saint Thomas! Everybody!" performed by ??? Tony Mottolla, Enoch Light and some other familiar names are involved but there really is no named band. Ping Pong Percussion Lerner and Lowe, Stradivari Strings, Spinorama S-33 Talk about exploitation! This recording does some really neat stereo percussion stuff in the first 30 seconds of the first cut and then its strings for the rest of the album. I might play that first cut, but thats it. Jackie Gleason, For Lovers Only, Capitol SW 352 Sorry, great music but too lush for Mr. Smooth. I still favor Velvet Brass, even though my copy of VB is only mono. Is there a stereo version of VB? Valentino Tango, The Nick Arnold Orchestra, Coronet CXS 77 A slightly interesting cover is about all this has going for it. Imagine a traditional tango melody done in very straight 4/4 time with a very strong beat on top of that (ala "Hooked on Classics"). Pul-eeze! There were some other albums I picked up, including a Ferrante and Teicher early stereo album on ABC/Paramount. The cover was nice and there were a couple of cuts with "Other worldly" titles that had music to match. I also got a Three Suns Christmas album I refuse to even listen to until after Thanksgiving. I spent anywhere from ten cents to $2.00 each for these, stopping in four thrift shops and one antique mall. By the way, I also picked up the two CD Capitol Les Baxter set at Best Buy. Very nice! I didn't pick up a Scamp release featuring a famous poet (she gave the reading at Clinton's inaugeral... why can't I remember her name?). It looked very exotica, but thought I'd check and see if anyone had an opinion on it first. Byron Caloz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Halloween suggestions? Date: 08 Oct 1996 19:42:48 -0500 Mr. Smooth is looking for scary or theme-based music that he can play on his Halloween program. He thought he would play the opening music from Ed Wood (bongos mixed in with eerie music) and maybe from "Monster" (a jazz organ album). However, I bet there are much better ideas out there (not to diss Mr. S). By the way, I don't have the Ed Wood soundtrack. I assume its available, but my searches through several new CD stores were for naught. Byron Caloz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) Subject: Absolute Sound Date: 08 Oct 1996 20:58:50 -0400 The current issue of The Absolute Sound (a magazine about high end hi-fi equipment) has an article (cover story, in fact) entitled "Powerhouse: The Mixed Blessings of Bachelor Pad Music", a pros and cons article about our fave records. The issue is dated July/August '96, issue # 107. Look for the space invaders on the cover. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) Subject: Pete Rugolo Date: 08 Oct 1996 20:58:47 -0400 I was talking to Brad Benedict, producer of Capitol's Ultra Lounge series; he is also the music supervisor and score and soundtrack producer for the film of Jim Thompson's "This World, Then The Fireworks", due out next spring. I told him there had been some chat already about Pete Rugolo's score for the film, so Brad thought some folks might be interested in the players for the sessions (recorded on Sept 14, 15, & 17), as Pete wanted to hire as much of the "old guard" that was still alive, i.e. the guys who played on "Richard Diamond", "The Fugitive" TV score, etc. (Speaking of Diamond, Jack- you're gonna like this- -) Guitar : Dennis Budimir ; Piano/Organ : Pete Jolly ; Saxes: Gary Foster, Pete Chrislieb, Don Menza, Jack Nimitez; Trumpets: Warren Luening, Conte Candoli; Bass : Dave Carpenter, Chauncey Welsch; Drums: Anton Fig, Steve Houghton; Percusssion : Effrain Toro Brad was kind enough to bring me to Mr. Rugolo's home a few weeks ago, where I read some of the charts. It's classic crime jazz. Oh boy. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: Proposed List Format Change Date: 08 Oct 1996 19:17:55 -0600 (MDT) I've had a lot of response to the list format change proposal I sent out, and while a few people didn't like the idea the response was overwhelmingly positive so I'm going to make the changes as soon as I get a chance. Once again, here's what's going to happen: * Replies will no longer be automatically redirected back to the list. Check the instructions for your mailer to see how to send repsonses to the list address. * The name of the list will be prepended to each subject line. I realize that some people will be inconvenienced by this but the response I got was 15:1 or 20:1 in favor of these changes, so clearly far more people are being inconvenienced by the current setup. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Kilmartin Subject: Re: Halloween suggestions? Date: 08 Oct 1996 22:05:38 -0400 At 07:42 PM 08/10/1996 -0500, you wrote: >Mr. Smooth is looking for scary or theme-based music that he can play on his >Halloween program. He thought he would play the opening music from Ed Wood >(bongos mixed in with eerie music) and maybe from "Monster" (a jazz organ >album). However, I bet there are much better ideas out there (not to diss >Mr. S). WELLLLLLL..... This is more "Surf" or "Garage/Pop" but the Monster Mash CD by Bobby Picket has some truly bugf*** bits on it. People tend to want to kill you tho, when they've heard too much of it -in my experience, anyway.... The Vic Mizzy Original Addams family CD is still available and you can never go wrong with that stuff... Theremin tunes with overdubs from Spoken Word Edger Allen Poe stories, maybe... >By the way, I don't have the Ed Wood soundtrack. I assume its >available, but my searches through several new CD stores were for naught. Yup the "Ed " soundtrack is still REAL available Consider my 2 cents in, Joe in TO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: 31 favors of RCA stereo Date: 08 Oct 1996 22:25:31 -0400 >woman. There's alot of humor mixed into all the selections. I was >disappointed that the Living Stereo banner did not top the album. I guess >LS releases didn't all have that. If it doesn't say it, it isn't. In addition to Stereo Action, Living Stereo, Camden, Victor, and a few others, there was plain old RCA stereo. Some records were released in different flavors, such as Ann-Margret's "Bachelor in Paradise" LP (at least mono, stereo, and Living Stereo). Then there were releases for budget labels (Camden) and classical and so forth, and the United Artists thing, and...and... Tony Wilds _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: poot! Subject: Nautch Dance Date: 08 Oct 1996 20:02:35 -0700 At 07:42 PM 10/8/96 -0500, Mr. Smooth wrote: > By the way, I don't have the Ed Wood soundtrack. I assume its >available, but my searches through several new CD stores were for naught. this should be easily found - and is quite an excellent soundtrack by Howard Shore. Spoken word, bongos, theremin - even a 1:30 number by Korla Pandit - which, by the way, is much more rockin' than most of his earlier stuff. As a matter of fact, K.P. *appears* ooohhh so briefly in the film playing the tune during a dance sequence. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: What is Calypso, Part 2 Date: 08 Oct 1996 23:30:19 -0400 [Thx WFMU dj Irwin Chusid & Jack Taylor for launching my calypso obsession.] Calypso Shopping Guide Comments: After well over 100 calypso LPs, I've managed to throw just one or two back. This music has one of the best good-to-boring ratios around (although cruise-ship souvenir LPs usually aren't the most interesting.) Most true calypso records can be had for less than $10 outside of areas filled with Trinidadians and other islanders. Artists: The Duke of Iron was born Cecil Anderson in Trinidad. He carried the true sound and many of the best songs of primordial calypso into the popular recording era, having loads of fun but steadfastly refusing to modernize (ruin) his style. Duke of Iron records on RCA, Monogram, Crowell-Collier, Folksay, Virgin Isle, and other labels stretch over all sizes and formats. In addition to the Duke's unique voice and phrasing, part of the charm is a trademark clarinet which is played more like a horn. He does "The Big Bamboo" (more on this in Part 3) and "Parakeets," two great songs of the type for which calypso is notorious. The Fabulous McClevertys had one LP on Verve that may be the best single-act calypso LP, certainly the best "one-hit wonder." (If there are others, please let me know.) "Don't Blame it on Elvis" is a great original --surprisingly not covered as far as I know-- and all the other songs are very well performed. Josephine Premice had such a super record on Verve that Gene Norman waited years to do her sequel on GNP. He did, and this Haitian-creole rival/parallelist to Eartha Kitt remains the best non-calypsonian to do calypso. Myra Angelou, Louis Farrakhan (a true calypsonian!?), Mitchum, Belafonte, Marty Robbins, Gary U.S. Bonds, Chubby Checker, Cugat, Ros, Elvis, Kitt, Ruth Wallis, and many others all tried their hands, some succeeding, but Premice is the knockout. Collectors items. The Talbot Brothers of Bermuda is a best-known act. Talbot records on Audio Fidelity (10" even) etc. consitute one of the biggest messes of reusing jacket art and songs I ever saw. Still, they never made a bad record. Ross Talbot's Audio Fidelity LP has a Kennedy-era twist or two on it. The Eloise Trio made several records, mostly on Decca; all are worthwhile. Her singing style, curiously, is so common among female calypsonians that either Eloise or someone earlier was the female "common ancestor" vocally. Blind Blake made at least 3 records on Art Records that should satisfy old-school purists not content with the Duke of Iron. He was outstanding, even when quite old; banjo is the trademark instrument. Other reliable calypsonians to seek include: Richie Delamore (RCA and Caribe) Roy Shurland (Caribe -- get everything on this label!) Ronnie Butler Lionel Lotmore Lord Kitchener ("Kitch") Mighty Sparrow (earliest records) Lord Beginner Percy Dixon & his Merry Boys (best Jamaican act) Lord Flea George Symmonette There are MANY calypso comps on vinyl, and most are terrific. Monogram "Meet Me in..." LPs are particularly nice, except that the artists are not credited. I should also recommend the Jolly Boys on Rykodisc CDs. They're Jamaican, so it's too slow to be party music, but they are very enjoyable and traditional. Good luck. [Part 3 will cover what it's all about: the FUNNIEST songs EVER!] Tony "pitcher of zombies jamboree" Wilds _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: " / dave / " Subject: Wow! Exotic Calypso from Wilds' Kingdom... Date: 08 Oct 1996 23:00:11 -0500 (CDT) Coming out of the woodwork, where I've been trapped for days: (This message timed suspiciously close to Tony Wilds' "What is Calypso, Part 2" message which arrived in my box moments ago, but a coincidence nonetheless!) As I may have mentioned before (and as certain individuals on this list know all too well), I always make sure to arrange things such that I get a package or two of records in the mail at work at the beginning of each week, as it makes going to work a lot more exciting and meaningful for me. (Fortunately for me, I long ago abandoned the "buy every record ever pressed, at least once" approach that is the bane of every neophyte big-game exotica hunter.) This week, among other things, I received a well-timed care package from our esteemed Mr. Wilds, chock-full of goodies to keep me satisfied for hours - *days*, even. Along with an outstanding and almost embarrassingly *personal*-ly gratifying assortment of vinyl (selected with the insightful and perceptive assistance of Wilds himself), I received a copy of his STUNNING calypso compilation tape that has turned my sometimes jaded, know-it-all attitude upside down and all asunder. This is FANTASTIC stuff... and I have little doubt that it will appeal to virtually everyone on this list. It's the real McCoy, with spot-on lyrics (by turns achingly funny and not a little profound), catchy, irresistable instrumental backing that will satiate the most sophisticated exotic(a) palate, nifty packaging, and no less than *33* artists/groups represented via vintage 45s, 78s, LPs, etc. The opening track, and the tape's namesake, is none other than "The Big Bamboo" by the Duke of Iron, which, like so MANY of the tracks on this tape, is a veritable treasure trove of artful and amusing sexual innuendo with an exotic twist - or it could be nothing more than the pointed, scientific musings of a committed naturalist in his preferred woody milieu (fat chance), but that's the beauty of it. Home taping, indeed! Get one while they last... dave -----------------( (---------------------- f n a s t ! -------) )-- arouet@winternet.com ----------------( (----------------------- "de-contextualization is nothing to sneeze at" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) Re: Pete Rugolo Date: 09 Oct 1996 05:11:13 -0700 A brief biography and discography for Pete Rugolo is available on the Exotica Standards site at: http://www.netrail.net/~bbigelow/rugolo.htm Brad Bigelow bbigelow@netrail.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BGlennii@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Halloween suggestions? Date: 09 Oct 1996 09:43:19 -0400 Re Halloween... Check out Peggy Lee's swingin' version of the "Bewitched" TV theme on "Billboard Family Scarytime Classics" on Rhino. Betcha never knew the words to the song before! Other goodies on this disc as well, including The Peter Pan Singers. Ben Washington, DC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BGlennii@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Mr. Smooth Goes Shopping Date: 09 Oct 1996 09:45:56 -0400 re Jackie Gleason's "Velvet Brass"... I believe that the recent CD reissue of VB (Razor & Tie) includes stereo tracks. Ben Washington, DC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Pete Rugolo Date: 09 Oct 1996 16:40:26 GMT i haven't seen mention of "Music for Hi-Fi Bugs" or "The Sweet Ride" (a biker film soundtrack) from pete rugolo. they are two of my favotites. if you see copies available, grab them! jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dfrisby@mgmua.com (Doug Frisby) Subject: (exotica) Stereo Cocktail Puzzle Date: 09 Oct 1996 10:04:24 -0700 Greetings, I purchased "Stereo Cocktail" CD the other day which seems to be a bootleg compilation from Germany. It sounds pretty good. Whoever the person is who put this compilation together didn't include the artists. I thought I knew a bunch about this genre but this compilation stumped the hell out of me. I have a feeling half of the artists listed are sound-alikes. There are sound-alikes of Ethel Smith, Xavier Cugat and even (unfortunately) Boots Randolph. Can anyone name even ONE artist on this compilation? Thanking you in advance, I remain, Stumped # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: (exotica) Re: Exotica from Wilds' Kingdom Date: 09 Oct 1996 14:55:57 -0400 Dave, shhhhh! I'm supposed to be *working* myself. (Happy to provide the carrot that gets you to work this week; a big stick is needed for me at this point.) Thx for keeping the wilds thing in mac 'n cheese another day and for all the implausible laudation. (Dave has beaten the drum a bit, er, wildly.) WILDs SOUNDS sells no homemade tapes and promotes the buying of vinyl/CDs only. (Record collectors may contact me personally about privately exchanging the odd, strictly promotional sampler.) I urge everyone to bug Br Cleve for his "Swinging Erudites" tapes. These are the man himself doing lounge versions of "I Wanna Be Sedated" and stuff (before Black Velvet Flag). Perhaps this will get my copies in the mail, eh Cleve? ;) Get a fan-slave to handle the mail for you. Hell, cut a CD, pay the royalties to the Ramones et al, and live large. Tony _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@nyc.pipeline.com (lou smith) Subject: (exotica) Re: Comics (was More on condition) Date: 09 Oct 1996 19:03:04 GMT On Oct 07, 1996 17:23:41, 'Paul Lewis ' wrote: >> RE: Observations made recently of the misuse of the term, "mint." >This is something that has bothered me about a lot of the collecting >fields. So far, from my experience, it seems that comic book collectors >are probably the most informed about condition. I've noticed that there's some overlap between comic collectors and vinyl collectors. (Why is that, I wonder?) I suppose D. Clowes is the designated official slacker/lounge cartoonist of the moment, but here are 3 other comix related items that may interest exoticians: 1) Bongo Comics is about to issue a limited (100 copies) edition signed print of "Land Of Kookamonga" by Mary Fleener ($25). Fleener designed the cubisimo 1995 WFMU T-shirt, BTW. The print is described as: This colorful tropical print features dancing tikis, ancient island deities and one funky piggy! It is 16x22.5 inches. 2) Ninth Circle is about to issue a 3-part series by Rafael Navarro called 'Sonambulo'. It is the story of a former Mexican wrestler-turned-private eye who enters a world of underworld assassins, all-night mambo clubs, and the cult of Eugene, a retro exotica voodoo cult, whose sole aim is to ressurrect the life of a long-dead silent screen star. 3) Oddball music scholar and illustrator Wayno did the cover to "Sam Butera & The Wildest On Stage! (LP just out, CD soon come). Wayno promises to get on-line soon, and will no doubt join us here when he does. My appologies if anyone considers all this off-topic. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: (exotica) Re: Pete Rugolo Date: 09 Oct 1996 15:15:42 -0400 At 04:40 PM 10/9/96 GMT, you wrote: >i haven't seen mention of "Music for Hi-Fi Bugs" or "The Sweet Ride" (a >biker film soundtrack) from pete rugolo. they are two of my favotites. if >you see copies available, grab them! > > >jack Don't overlook Mr. Rugolo's: Quiet Village Cha Cha Cha Manhattan Mambo Jingle Bells Mambo Tony _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: " / dave / " Subject: (exotica) Post Bloody Post Date: 09 Oct 1996 14:52:51 -0500 (CDT) As an exoticaside, and as a follow-up to some earlier posts re. lounge-y pop, I thought I'd mention that I got a copy of the Cardigans' "Rise and Shine" CD single in the mail this week from Italy. ($2 cheaper in Rome than the shop down the street, and I have to make it interesting - next thing you know I'll be mailing records to myself.) As some may know, there's a cover of Black Sabbath's "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" on the Cardigans' full-length 'Life' CD, done in the form of a melancholy, jazz-tinged ballad. So I was interested to find that there's a 15-minute track on the CD single I got called "Coctail Party Bloody Coctail Party", which turned out to be a lengthy coctail lounge-style solo-piano medley of a number of their "hits" from the 'Life' album, complete with background conversation, polite clapping, mumbling, etc. It's actually kind of cute - the piano player has the cheesy lounge thing down pat, technique-wise. I not sure if this is of any use to anyone, but I felt it had to be said. dave in Minneapolis -----------------( (---------------------- f n a s t ! -------) )-- arouet@winternet.com ----------------( (----------------------- "de-contextualization is nothing to sneeze at" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: (exotica) Diamond on the move Date: 09 Oct 1996 14:54:55 -0700 I really wish I could get your show Wish I could hear your show ;( What do I have to do to be able to hear your show ?!!! and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and onand on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and onand on and on and on and on and onand on and on and on and on and onand on and on and on and on and onand on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on forever and ever!!! Hello everyone ;) I get mail like this ALL THE TIME and I _really do_ appreciate it BUT I am not the one who makes those decisions ;) I am merely little 'ol Jack ;-/> KFJC has been toying with the idea of going Real Audio on the web AND if YOU e-mail kfjc@earthlink.net (Brian Potter) and tell Brian this in your OWN words AND of course NOT TELL HIM that I suggested you e-mail him and tell him so;)) it will be 10 kachillion times better and get a gazillion times more done in a _very _real_ way_ then telling me;)) YOU can make it happen. I can't. Just like that As I said I really do appreciate you all telling me this BUT telling me ain't gonna make it happen. Telling Brian Potter will;)) Thank you all for your continued support Most sincerely, Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Korla's Nautch Dance Date: 09 Oct 1996 19:13:14 -0400 Korla's track is much more rockin because it is beefed up with bongos, etc but rumor has it that he is not really playing organ on that track either! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pea Hicks Subject: (exotica) Esquivel/Baxter 8-track Date: 09 Oct 1996 19:36:37 -0700 Hey y'all- I'm normally not much into collecting 8-tracks but I got one today that I couldn't pass up. It's called "Other Worlds, Other Sounds," But it's NOT the Esquivel album. Instead, it's a compilation of various Esquivel and Les Baxter tracks. It's on the NAL label. Anyone have any idea if this one's hard to come by? I also scored some other fun stuff today- "Music To Keep Your Husband Happy-" near mint 2 record box set of strip/belly dancing stuff w/ instructional booklets "An Evening With Jayne-" with that scary picture of Ms. Mansfield on the cover. "Paradise Moods-" near-mint Martin Denny "Dr. Dean Sings All-Time Favorites-" I already had this, but this one was still sealed! Dr. Dean is a famous hypnotist here in San Diego. I remember him coming around to our high school every year- he's truly amazing. He put out 2 records- this one (Vegas standards done w/ smarmy cocktail voice) and a self-hypnosis record that is really tweaked. He looks amazing too- big jet-black pompadour, ruffly tux, etc. He's really quite special. At any rate- all this stuff for about $6. Pea Hicks -- <---Realm 'O' The Optigan---> http://www.pilot.com:80/optigan Who will be the next to brave the *perils* of the Virtual Optigan??!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jbtwist@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: What is Calypso, Part 2 Date: 09 Oct 1996 22:46:14 -0400 The aforementioned Lord Flea pops up in the Les Baxter flick "Bop Girl goes Calypso", doing a tune or two and backing up the one and only Bop Girl ! The alleged "plot" of this film has Bobby Troup (I think that's his role, aka Julie London's schtupmeister, sigh...) schlepping an applause meter around to nightclubs, peering intently at the meter sitting on his table, analyzing his comparative data, and ultimately drawing the conclusion that calypso will replace rock and roll, because the kids clapped louder for calypso. Mind you this was 1957, 39 years ahead of Tony "late to the zombie jamboree" Wilds' recent outbreak of calypso fever, which I must admit is quite contagious. JB "countin' the paper umbrellas" Twist # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jbr109@psu.edu (jordana) Subject: (exotica) sorry sorry sorry Date: 09 Oct 1996 22:19:26 -0400 I know I owe people tapes. If I owe you a tape (either of the Jet Set radio show or a mix tape), please send me e-mail. I'm trying to get organized, once and for all. I'm sorry about being such a slacker about posting playlists, responding to people etc. Now to read the last 20 or so digests.... -Jordana P.S. Recent acquisitions which get the thumbs up: Shuldmachen Report (sp?), finally Red Hot and Rio ____________________________________________ jordana robinson jbr109@psu.edu homepage at www.personal.psu.edu/~jbr109 image & direction at www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157 ____________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Missing tiki dude? Date: 09 Oct 1996 19:13:57 -0400 Tiki News is available at some Tower Records stores but please subscribe so that I get the money rather than Tower (I actually lose money via Tower because I sell them at a wholesale rate and then have to pay for shipping) Tiki News is published roughly 6 times a year and subscribers get a special yearend insert not available to newsstand buyers send $12 chk to Schwarz Grafiken 2215-R Market Street #177 San Francisco, CA 94114 Please note which issue you want your sub to begin with. The current issue is #8 and is out now #s 4-7 are also available along with the Exoticon '95 program and Tiki necklaces and the Grog Log Polynesian bar guide and Tiki clip art catalog. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: viktrola@usa.nai.net (Vik Trola) Subject: (exotica) Re: what is exotica/lounge Date: 10 Oct 1996 05:26:22 -0500 >Any newbies, oldbees, or Snoopies with at least 16 hours of free time >should follow Lazlo's link to the Exotica List Archives and start slogging >through the eldritch scrolls written by a cult of weird-eared people whose this is a truly amazing and swinging rant. i would love your permission to add it to the In-Crowd at Vik's (with credit to you of course) in swank, Vik Vik Trola's Lounge Of Self Indulgence http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/lounge.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Burning Petals Music Subject: (exotica) Leopard skin CD Date: 10 Oct 1996 12:58:20 +0100 Whilst browsing in my local CD store I noticed a very tasteful leopard-skinned CD compilation of, I think, the Capitol exotica collection. Being more into the UK exotica scene than the Esquivel's & Martin Denny's of the world, I was always wary of buying any of the Capitol series as I wasn't sure where to start. But as this compilation is 50% more expensive than any of the series which should I plump for ? Also, in the same store I saw for the first time, a copy of Mancini's THE BLUES & THE BEAT - is this the album that many rave about ?? He was so prolific in that period that I get the albums confused ?? Yours indecisively, Richard Jay (London, England) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: (exotica) Re: Proposed List Format Ch Date: 10 Oct 1996 10:43:19 -0400 RE>>Proposed List Format Change 10/10/96 I think I'm confused...I've been out of the loop for a few days...Please explain... laura@wusf.usf.edu I've had a lot of response to the list format change proposal I sent out, and while a few people didn't like the idea the response was overwhelmingly positive so I'm going to make the changes as soon as I get a chance. Once again, here's what's going to happen: * Replies will no longer be automatically redirected back to the list. Check the instructions for your mailer to see how to send repsonses to the list address. * The name of the list will be prepended to each subject line. I realize that some people will be inconvenienced by this but the response I got was 15:1 or 20:1 in favor of these changes, so clearly far more people are being inconvenienced by the current setup. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: (exotica) Re: Halloween suggestions? Date: 10 Oct 1996 10:42:07 -0400 RE>Halloween suggestions? 10/10/96 What about the SHOCK-MUSIC IN HI-FI by the "Creed Taylor" orchestra!?!? If that's not on there---we won't be scared...THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL is waaaayyyyy creeeepppy, too! May I also make a request, that for cash or trade, that you DJS make available tapes of your Halloween and Xmas shows? Thanks! Lounge Laura"no relation to Creed" Taylor laura@wusf.usf.edu "I'm self-contained" Mr. Smooth is looking for scary or theme-based music that he can play on his Halloween program. He thought he would play the opening music from Ed Wood (bongos mixed in with eerie music) and maybe from "Monster" (a jazz organ album). However, I bet there are much better ideas out there (not to diss Mr. S). By the way, I don't have the Ed Wood soundtrack. I assume its available, but my searches through several new CD stores were for naught. Byron Caloz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: (exotica) Re: , Laura luvs those anim Date: 10 Oct 1996 11:16:41 -0400 RE>>, Laura luvs those animals 10/10/96 Lounge Laura *proudly* wears fur and leather, thankyou, though I have a luv for vinyl records and clothing as well! I love wearing my mink stole(my mum's actually) and torking off vegetarian/animal-rites types with their*leather* sandals who chastise *me* for being such an un p-c dresser... Venus in Furs, laura@wusf.usf.edu pppurrrrrr >Laura thundered: > >>Please, Hugh, I think I at least rate a " Yvonne DiCarlo(sp?)"-someone with a >>little more umph! >>Doris Day? Walter Scott --who should join this list-- sez Ms. Day now has joined Ms. Bardot in the rabid support of deserving species other than ours. Laura, what's your position on cuddly lil animals? Will you be sporting fur this winter of animal or factory origins? Is there any fur in FL? Say, didn't Ms. Day do a Holly Farms chicken ad on TV last we saw? They must have stiffed her on the payment. And BTW, if Ms. DeCarlo had had more "umph" instead of just a so-so voice as deep as Brenda Vacarro's, she might have had the greater career. Ms. Day is okay. Tony _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joerg Nijmeijer" Subject: (exotica) Re: Stock, Hausen and Walkman Date: 10 Oct 1996 17:25:14 +0000 hiya, don't got much to say about their "organ transplant #1"-album, but it's definitely not FUN. Although they seem to get all their samples from those baaaad hammond-albums of the early 70ies, they rearrange them in a new context: it's DARK. Some of the tunes carry a bit of a beat, but just the atmosphere is equal to those dark triphop-stuff, which oozes out of any radio .. Did that help ? :o) Peace, joerg On 8 Oct 96 at 7:48, Jill Mingo wrote: > >Does anyone know *anything* about them? They attracted my interest > >with the album cover and jokey name. I've asked people who *should* > >know, but all I could come up with is that they've been around for > >a while and that they may be connected with Coldcut. (Jill? > >Anyone?) > At long last, a reply on this. I don't recall anyone else replying > on this one. Most of this band originate from Manchester area of > England, but one of 'em is from nearish Berlin. There previous music > has been more of an avant garde nature. This is their first release > to incorporate this sort of sound, but a follow-up is coming, and it > will be more along these lines. Some of their previous music was > more of an "art noise" nature that people might stroke their chins > to and discuss, if you know what I mean. I don't know of any > connections to Coldcut though. They have been written about in THE > WIRE, and more liked my serious musical types, even though, this > release - I am told, I don't have it - is of a much more "fun" > nature. Also, do not think I am dissing this sort of scene as I am > also kinda a part of it! I am merely stating the facts as I know > (little!) of 'em. > > Hope this helps. > > Jill > > > Colloquium Internet > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? > # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. "To login as User PAT type: LOGIN PAUL" (LOGIN /? @ Novell 4.1 german) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Halloween suggestions? Date: 10 Oct 1996 10:12:35 -0600 (MDT) Try the soundtrack to Forbidden Planet. It is annoying and scary. And a fave of mine is DISNEYLAND's The Thrilling, Chilling Sounds of Halloween. Jill Colloquium Internet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (exotica) Comics Date: 10 Oct 1996 10:18:29 -0600 (MDT) I can't believe that there's a comics discussion on this list . . . and that Very Vicky hasn't been mentioned yet! -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: (exotica) ELMER, SHELLEY, AND HEINO Date: 10 Oct 1996 12:22:35 -0400 OK---some k-vestions for you all...I just saw THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN ARM (why didn't Frank do some swingin' numbahs in that, btw)...The "try-out scene" has some intriguing elements in it. Was that Elmer Bernstein as conductor? And the drummer named "Shelley," could it be none other than Shelley(here comes my spelling errors, perhaps) Mann? Great to hear such a magnificent score on the big screen! In an unrelated and perhaps sick topic, has Heino ever been in any films... and lest you all try to steal this idea from me, I am going as Herr H. for Halloween...That oughta scare ya' BTW-so as not to seem "how insensitive"---I am so in love with my dog "Max" and am not in favor of dog-fur coats...I just don't like hypocrisy from militant Berkinstock-folks who pick and choose their ethics... Lounge Laura laura@wusf.usf.edu "it's just my nature to do weird stuff..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) Subject: (exotica) Re: Absolute Sound Date: 10 Oct 1996 17:20:08 GMT On Oct 08, 1996 20:58:50, 'bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve)' wrote: >The current issue of The Absolute Sound (a magazine about high end hi-fi >equipment) has an article (cover story, in fact) entitled "Powerhouse: The >Mixed Blessings of Bachelor Pad Music", a pros and cons article about our >fave records. The issue is dated July/August '96, issue # 107. Look for the >space invaders on the cover. many thanks for the tip on this article, but man, what a basically negative view on what they call "bachelor pad music." along with jared stern's recent ny post article, the "cocktail nation" seems to be getting a lot of bad press of late....well, obviously, bad press is much better than no press. my main problems with the author's view are his politically oriented allegations and his proposed examples of contemporary artists that supposedly embody the positive qualities that he sees in the original movement. basically, he says that rock and roll is for liberals (the good guys) and that the cocktail nation is a reactionary political swing backwards into non-liberal thinking. even if this analogy is has any truth to it, i find it presumptuous to consider liberals "good guys." are all music lovers supposed to be liberals? i'm not. the artists he holds up as being so great are clearly a matter of personal preference. obviously, i have my opinions, but i do acknowledge that "to each his own" is the most realistic approach to discussing the voltaile issue of taste. however, i would like to state that i am all too familiar with the music of john zorn and tom waitts and would never choose to hear either one of them, especially when the options for plucking the needle down on records by denny, baxter, or esquivel (the authors examples of what is BAD!?! about bachelor pad music) exists. swipes at combustible edison as being hollow revivalists were sustained, also. personally, i find combustible's music to be a fresh look at some of those elements that we find so appealing from "this music" combined with their own special personalities. (i can't wait to catch you guys tomorrow!) all in all, a pretty aggravating piece of journalism. i guess that was the point. jack fetterman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Stock, Hausen and Walkman Date: 10 Oct 1996 11:45:13 -0600 (MDT) In regards to the comments below, let me restate that I HAVE NOT HEARD THIS RELEASE and I have "fun" in quote marks to imply that this is a relative term, not literal, hence the "marks". Using hammond riffs in dark music adds a lighter, more easily listenable tone - as opposed to drones, blips, and tonal qualities usually found in experimental music. The band People Like Us sample and fuck around with easy listening samples, but much of their music is also DARK. But it is still more fun than say :zoviet*france: or Oval, which are more the type of scene Stock, Hausen and Walkman have been linked to in the past. Am I now a bit clearer? Jill >don't got much to say about their "organ transplant #1"-album, >but it's definitely not FUN. > >Although they seem to get all their samples from those baaaad >hammond-albums of the early 70ies, they rearrange them in a new >context: it's DARK. > > Some of their previous music was >> more of an "art noise" nature that people might stroke their chins >> to and discuss, if you know what I mean. I don't know of any >> connections to Coldcut though. They have been written about in THE >> WIRE, and more liked my serious musical types, even though, this >> release - I am told, I don't have it - is of a much more "fun" >> nature. Also, do not think I am dissing this sort of scene as I am >> also kinda a part of it! I am merely stating the facts as I know >> (little!) of 'em. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Jill >> >> >> Colloquium Internet >> >> >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? >> # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. >------------------------------------------------ > "To login as User PAT type: LOGIN PAUL" > (LOGIN /? @ Novell 4.1 german) >------------------------------------------------ > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. ># Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. > > Colloquium Internet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: Re: (exotica) Comics Date: 10 Oct 1996 13:43:18 -0400 RE>(exotica) Comics 10/10/96 Ohhh!!!! Good!!! you sorta read my mind...In an un-record-related topic, does anyone know when the MARS ATTACKS cards will come out? lounge laura-in space laura@wusf.usf.edu I can't believe that there's a comics discussion on this list . . . and that Very Vicky hasn't been mentioned yet! -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan Dada Vis) Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica Digest V2 #119 Date: 10 Oct 1996 20:05:17 +0100 >From: jfett01@nyc.pipeline.com (Jack Fetterman) >Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 05:01:25 GMT >Subject: Re: Proposed List Format Change > >the change is ok with me. > >what i would really like to see is some sort of filter where one could >choose to NOT see postings by specific members. the list is pretty active >and if you don't log on for a couple of days, it can be a time consuming >task deleting posts, just to find your real mail. the list can't do that for you, you need an e-mail program with filtering capabilities, like eudora pro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Gresham Subject: Re: (exotica) Leopard skin CD Date: 10 Oct 1996 19:27:15 +0100 (BST) On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Burning Petals Music wrote: > Whilst browsing in my local CD store I noticed a very tasteful > leopard-skinned CD compilation of, I think, the Capitol exotica > collection. Being more into the UK exotica scene than the Esquivel's & > Martin Denny's of the world, I was always wary of buying any of the > Capitol series as I wasn't sure where to start. But as this compilation > is 50% more expensive than any of the series which should I plump for ? Richard, This is (as far as I know) a promotional CD put out by Capitol primarily for radio stations and the such like (probably for reviews as well). It's supposed to be an overview of the series, and as such is a pretty decent selection. I'm probably coming from a similar musical point of view as you, being a brit easy DJ - more Sound Gallery/Sound Spectrum than Easy Project. The capitol sampler is much more american than the Easy Project I. It does have one or two pretty great tracks on it - Peter Gunn Mambo being one. It's a relatively uncommon release as it was only initially released on promo. The radio promotions lady at EMI UK told me that there were plans to release the CD as a mainstream release, but without the fluffy cover (the best aspect in my opinion) - just the pattern printed on the case. Bearing in mind that it's probably supposed to be a CD of the best tracks off all of the initial albums, you're probably better off buying the sampler - if you like it then you can buy the whole albums. If you're anything like me, you probably won't though... Hope this is helpful. Later Dan (Cambridge, England) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dfrisby@mgmua.com (Doug Frisby) Subject: (exotica) Re: Leopard skin CD Date: 10 Oct 1996 11:37:40 -0700 >Also, in the same store I saw for the first time, a copy of Mancini's >THE BLUES & THE BEAT - is this the album that many rave about ?? He >was so prolific in that period that I get the albums confused ?? My opinion: Don't go for that one first. You're better off getting the Japanese import of "Mr. Lucky Goes Latin" or perhaps sticking domestically with the soundtrack to "Breakfast At Tiffany's". It's sad to see this soundtrack missing from the new "Lounge sections" in CD stores now. Another German import worthy of picking up is "More Music From Peter Gunn". This one is part of the space age pop series that is also re-issuing George Siravo's Swingin Stereo In Studio A, Esquivel's Other Worlds Other Sounds and Xavier Cugat's Music From France, Spain & Italy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david.trezza@etak.com (David Trezza) Subject: (exotica) This week's haul & Sony Turntables Date: 10 Oct 1996 11:30:11 -0700 (PDT) how do, My turntable is currently non-operational and am considering buying a Sony PS-LX300H. If anybody has any experience with this model, or any Sony turntables, can you pass it on to me, any comments are appreciated. Also, because of this, I am in a buying mode without being able to hear my kills. Here's some things I picked up this week that I'm not sure what to expect. Any surprises here? Benny Kalama & the Hawaiian Village Serenaders - Echoes of Hawaii Decca - DL8261 Leo Addeo & Orrchestra - More Hawaii in Hi-Fi RCA-Camden Living Stereo - CAS594 Stanley Black - France London Phase 4 - SP44090 Akoni Lani & Danny Stewart - Hawaiian Favorites Tops Mayfair Series - 9517S Richard Hayman - Harmonica Holiday Mercury - MG20953 Del CLose & John Brent - How to SPeak Hip Mercury - OCM2205 Hugo Montenegro - 70 Time Series 2000 - s/2062 Sdtk/Stanley Wilson - The Mating Urge International - LP7777 Jerry Murad's Harmonicats - El Cid & Moon River Colombia - CL1753 The Waikikis - HAwaii Honeymoon Kapp - Mono KL-1432 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dfrisby@mgmua.com (Doug Frisby) Subject: (exotica) Re: What is Calypso, Part 2 Date: 10 Oct 1996 11:48:15 -0700 >The aforementioned Lord Flea pops up in the Les Baxter flick "Bop >Girl goes Calypso", doing a tune or two and backing up the one and >only Bop Girl ! The alleged "plot" of this film...... FYI, "Bop Girl Goes Calypso" is a film I've been trying to get MGM to re-release (with soundtrack) for awhile now (Also Goliath & The Barbarians w/ Les Baxter soundtrack). If you want the "Bop Girl" film re-released, please go to www.mgmhomevideo.com/index2.html and send an e-mail stating that you want this film released on home video. Please don't mention that I asked you to do it. I will forward the message on to the appropriate people who are currently scheduling the 97' releases. Thanks and I remain, Optimistic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: anita_serwacki@newline.com (ANITA SERWACKI) Subject: (exotica) Velvet Brass Date: 10 Oct 1996 12:20:38 -0400 There was a question as to whether Jackie Gleason's "Velvet Brass" was released in stereo - checked mine - it's in beautiful stereo - Capitol SW859. Anita # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Gresham Subject: Re: (exotica) This week's haul & Sony Turntables Date: 10 Oct 1996 19:45:54 +0100 (BST) On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, David Trezza wrote: > Also, because of this, I am in a buying mode without being able > to hear my kills. Here's some things I picked up this week that > I'm not sure what to expect. Any surprises here? > Del CLose & John Brent - How to SPeak Hip > Mercury - OCM2205 This is _very_ cool!!! A track from it was put on the Incredibly Strange Music II CD, I believe... Later Dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re- Leopard sk Date: 10 Oct 1996 15:11:44 -0400 RE>(exotica) Re: Leopard skin CD 10/10/96 While I agree that the aforementioned Mancinis are supreme and classic and GODLIKE, I still must plug THE BLUES AND THE BEAT as just great *jazz* as well as incredible Mancini. And while we are on that: DON'T FORGET TOUCH OF EVIL, for Pete's sake! So, with all those great works mentioned, he should have a great Mancini 101(oh, not the 101 Strings Plays Mancini, either;^) Lounge"i luv hank"Laura laura@wusf.usf.edu "I'm Bedazzled" >Also, in the same store I saw for the first time, a copy of Mancini's >THE BLUES & THE BEAT - is this the album that many rave about ?? He >was so prolific in that period that I get the albums confused ?? My opinion: Don't go for that one first. You're better off getting the Japanese import of "Mr. Lucky Goes Latin" or perhaps sticking domestically with the soundtrack to "Breakfast At Tiffany's". It's sad to see this soundtrack missing from the new "Lounge sections" in CD stores now. Another German import worthy of picking up is "More Music From Peter Gunn". This one is part of the space age pop series that is also re-issuing George Siravo's Swingin Stereo In Studio A, Esquivel's Other Worlds Other Sounds and Xavier Cugat's Music From France, Spain & Italy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: (exotica) HEINO und film Date: 10 Oct 1996 16:25:11 -0400 >In an unrelated and perhaps sick topic, has Heino ever been in any films... >and lest you all try to steal this idea from me, I am going as Herr H. for >Halloween...That oughta scare ya' "He's German. He's creepy looking. He's got a voice as deep as Hitler's bunker." All the Heino anyone can take is offered on the "Best of WFMU TV" tape.* You also get a bit of filmi, Raymond Scott, and other joys. But young Heino sans shades is a nightmare extraordinaire. The tape explains his fandom in Canada (some TV appearances) etc. Great "dance" sequence. *VHS tape from WFMU's Catalog of Curiosities, WFMU, East Orange, NJ, USA. Tony "57 varieties" Wilds _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: viktrola@usa.nai.net (Vik Trola) Subject: Re: (exotica) Leopard skin CD Date: 10 Oct 1996 17:15:19 -0500 >This is (as far as I know) a promotional CD put out by Capitol primarily >for radio stations and the such like (probably for reviews as well). It's >supposed to be an overview of the series, and as such is a pretty decent >selection. as of the end of september, this went from ultra swank promo only collectible to swank retail collectible. capitol bowed to pressure and put out the fuzzy leopard skin package as a sampler of the entire 12 releases to date. 2 tracks from each 24 tracks in all...the ultra rare released at the beginning of the series has a sampler of the first 6 with 4 tracks from each. in swank, Vik Vik Trola's Lounge Of Self Indulgence http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/lounge.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@nyc.pipeline.com (lou smith) Subject: (exotica) New releases Date: 10 Oct 1996 21:49:54 GMT The following 2 recently released CDs look good in the racks. Does anyone know if they're worth taking home? 1) SUKIA: Contacto Espacial Con Tercer Sexo (Nickelbag) (recorded in DOUBLE MONO ACTION SOUND) 2) TOLEDO: Fishnets & Cigarettes (Moonshine) Any help/comments appreciated. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bcleve@tiac.net (Brother Cleve) Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Absolute Sound Date: 10 Oct 1996 18:05:17 -0400 >>The current issue of The Absolute Sound (a magazine about high end hi-fi >>equipment) has an article (cover story, in fact) Jack Fetterman wrote: >many thanks for the tip on this article, but man, what a basically negative >view on what they call "bachelor pad music." I'll say. I hadn't read the piece when I wrote the post; my friend who owns a record store that sells the mag had just brought it over to me; I was on-line at the time and figured 'what the hell'. It's certainly one of the most bizarre articles I've ever encountered.....the author (who is around 60 years old, as he states that he was a college student in the mid 60's) goes through a mystifying series of topics and opinions, including some verbal assaults on Irwin Chusid and Joseph Lanza (both of whom are friends of mine, so I found this particularly irksome.) The author's love of the 80's "downtown" scene overides his perspective, and his politics combined with his lack of a sense of humor contribute a nasty tone to what is essentialy a fun, somewhat tounge-in-cheek scene. I knew that the author would toute the original vinyl pressings over the CD's, as that is the editorial policy of "The Absolute Sound". And I agree with his comments that Esquivel's records should be heard as they were originally conceived. (But I don't agree with him that the compilations are bad, sonically or conceptually, except for the bad remastering/remixing on "Cabaret Ma=F1ana". Compare "Miniskirt" on that CD to the original vinyl or even the bootleg, and you'll hear what I mean) I think the most telling comment comes early in the article : "I at one time aspired to be a Bachelor Pad arranger, at a time when it couldn't have been more irrelevant" (i.e., the mid-60's). Obviously, he failed at that (I know *I* don't have any records by the guy), and is still pissed. And he's *really* pissed that people half his age *are* being successful at it. Plus Combustible Edison has played the Knitting Factory and he hasn't. That's my take on it. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: (exotica) Man w/ The Golden Arm Date: 10 Oct 1996 14:38:31 -0700 I just saw THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN ARM >(why didn't Frank do some swingin' numbahs in that, btw). Because he had a 40 Lb monkey on his back called HEROIN and he was livin' the junkies fantasy life that "He wuz gonna be somebody uddah dan da bum which is what he was" The conductor of the orchestra was non other than the man who wrote/arranged and conducted all of the JAZZ music in the film score - Shorty Rogers and yes that was/is Shelly Manne who BTW does ALL of the drumming, jazz and otherwise throughtout the score. Killer shit it is Jack fuckin' Diamond # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: (exotica) Re: Absolute Sound article Date: 10 Oct 1996 19:06:56 -0400 It's all so embarassing. But the politics angle is intriguing. I'd say most of the leaders of this movement are self-described libertarians; conservatives are well represented (by a few, key people at least), not to mention you weird kids under 30; there's the perpetual mass of squishy liberals; and we have more than a few, apolitical freaks waiting patiently for the saucers to come. Thankfully, the music is polluted by NONE of this, with the exception of a few "We like Ike" calypsos and such. And Marlene Dietrich trying to disassociate herself from the Heino crowd. Yours until the End Times, Tony _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: (exotica) LOUNGE LAURA WANTS TO KNOW! Date: 10 Oct 1996 19:19:22 -0400 Lurrrrrkers, come out and play-ay-ay-ay. The undersigned, are sick of ourselves and need your help in our quest to irritain you sufficiently. Aren't you just *tired* of us? Well, we, the undersigned: Lounge Laura Taylor, the weird-nature girl Brother Cleve Dunkin', motto: "I have all the records" Bruce Rhodewalt, balloon burster Ashley "I knew it before you posted it" Arrest-Warrant Jack Diamando, the bongo cat with the 24-carat name Jill "serious in Scotland" Au-go-go-Mingo Tony "exotocrat" Wilds Patrick Cashew, the nice but uncreative guy Vik-(need I say more?) Trola Johan "what label is that on" Dada Hugh "Lounge Laura is soooo tammmeeee" from the U-k ...have come up with a solution to this. Consequently we are asking all the nice, shy, polite people to come forth and not tell us how little they spent on their last record. Instead, how about answering a quick little quiz? C'mon...one of us...one of us! Many of you have e-mailed me off the list with swell info, tape trades, bargains, unsolicited accolades, etc. I just want to know who ELSE is lllurrrrrkiiiing and what you are all about! The quiz is to follow...ANSWER THAT! With so much love and regard for your well-being, I am: Lounge Laura laura@wusf.usf.edu disclaimer: many of the above folks were drafted by me and an un-named co-conspirator. This should indemnify me from any lawsuits, uh, I think... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: (exotica) answer this! Date: 10 Oct 1996 19:52:53 -0400 1. Are you a musician? Explain... 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? 3. This list could help you more by... 4. Other exotica/things you collect 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like 6. What are you just dying to tell us? 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell us more! 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or other lounge-wear of which you are proud? OK---BE NICE! No flames on #7 because that was a tedious thread! Keep the flame embers burning to a minimum, too... Like it's important-but my answers follow tomorrow, as I am now leaving... Luv, Lounge Laura quiz ambassador laura@wusf.usf.edu MAKE SURE YOU DON'T REPLY TO ME INDIVIDUALLY---PLEASE DELUGE THE EXOTICA-LIST!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: viktrola@usa.nai.net (Vik Trola) Subject: (exotica) Sukia and Lounge Laura Date: 10 Oct 1996 20:37:54 -0500 >The following 2 recently released CDs look good in the racks. >Does anyone know if they're worth taking home? > >1) SUKIA: Contacto Espacial Con Tercer Sexo (Nickelbag) > (recorded in DOUBLE MONO ACTION SOUND) mmmm...moogy goodness. this comes from the labs of the Dust Brother (not the UK-now-Chemically-inclined but the US-produced=Paul's-Booutique chaps) and falls nicely into the erotic soundtrack to a never made film genre (oh oh oh!!! he's said the "g" word). very late '60 moog funk from a "new" band based on an erotic lesbian vampyre comic book (1996 - the year of the lesbian vampyre). a bit more info can be found at (you guessed it laura) Vik's...the Sukia page is http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/sukia.html and on a completely unrelated topic, while i wholly support your petition laura and would gladly sign, a recent deal struck with a secret swank European kabal i must inform you your using of my name with prior consent has placed you in grave danger. i wish i could say more, but i am forbidden. my support in your quiz (and my prayers) go with you... in swank, Vik Vik Trola's Lounge Of Self Indulgence http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/lounge.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: soundbliss9@earthlink.net Subject: (exotica) Heino horror Date: 10 Oct 1996 18:46:03 -0600 My perverse fantasy for about five years now is to make a short film called "Night of the Living Heinos" where, instead of the living dead, we see countless Heinos chanting"Ja Ja Ja" descending upon the poor victims. Other great Halloween music: Creed Taylor Orchestra: "Panic: Son Of Shock" soundbliss9@earthlink.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: viktrola@usa.nai.net (Vik Trola) Subject: Re: (exotica) answer this! Date: 10 Oct 1996 20:46:13 -0500 hey, i was supposed to be excluded from this...but i've never answered a quiz here before and laura is just soooo loungey! >1. Are you a musician? Explain... no and it has to do with an intrinsic case of white-boy-no-rhythm >2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Peter Frampton's "Frampton Comes Alive" >3. This list could help you more by... making me coffee, writing the lounge automatically, bringing about world peace >4. Other exotica/things you collect dutch designer toilet tissue circa '57 to '63, woggles (but only South American woggles), Dryer Lint of the Stars (you should see the Dino and Jerry lint!) >5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like the "F" train (both Brooklyn and Manhattan bound), My Cat Mumbles (no, really, he does), and Marzapan Pig >6. What are you just dying to tell us? i know Ashley's REAL identity > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality >consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell >us more! i smell smoke...look over there...flames everywhere...got...to...reach...the...alarm...blacking...out...(sound of body thudding to floor inches from the alarm) > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or >other lounge-wear of which you are proud? hats look "ucky" on me... WOW...i really need to stop drinking AfterShock, Absolut Citron and Lemonade on the rocks... in swank, Vik Vik Trola's Lounge Of Self Indulgence http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/lounge.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: Re: (exotica) answer this! Date: 10 Oct 1996 20:49:29 -0400 At 19:52 96-10-10 -0400, you wrote: >1. Are you a musician? Explain... No. I played oboe, bassoon and clarinet as a kid, but dropped them when I dropped music in Grade 10. Played harmonica during tragic, short-lived 'folkie' period. >2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Impossible to remember, but crime-jazz buying spree in late 1970s laid the foundation.=20 >3. This list could help you more by... Providing more detail of the sort requested in question 2, so as to fill in biographies, flesh out character, and remind me I'm not the oldest one here. >4. Other exotica/things you collect I have 500+ US 1950s scandal magazines and go in and out of an obsession with those; have a big collection of 1950s paperbacks, but have cooled on collecting those; have collected 1940s and 1950s neckties for 15 years, and used to wear the suits that went with them until they became almost impossible to find here and I grew out of the ones I have as a result of improved physical fitness. Generally, though this is not strictly exotica, I collect anything related to 1950s vice expos=E9/confidential culture, and have hundreds of 1950s crime and vice films on tape. And my living room= is very 1956. And I'm slowly building a collection of Quebecois musical exotica: home-grown tijuana brass, Hawaiian, pipe organ albums, etc.. >5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like House, trip-hop, hi-NRG, trashy Euro-disco, stylish Britpop >6. What are you just dying to tell us? a) In 1973, while stoned, I got on an elevator at the Royal York hotel in Toronto and found myself standing beside Alvy Moore, veteran character actor best remembered as the county agent on TV's Green Acres. b) About six weeks ago, I flew to Mexico City and, with a friend/colleague (whose grandfather played in Mexican dance bands, and whose grandmother made the contact) ) drove to Cuarnavaca and spent a very pleasant couple of hours=20 talking to Juan Garcia Esquivel. > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality >consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? = Tell >us more! I like the convenience of CDs and the care which goes into some= compilations, but buy used records because, aside from cover aesthetics, etc., I like to= buy hundreds and hundreds of examples of the kinds of music I like, and vinyl is obviously cheaper. > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or >other lounge-wear of which you are proud? No fez, but see afore-mentioned obsession with neckties. > Will Straw Associate Professor and Acting Director, Graduate Program in Communications/ Director, The Centre for Research on Canadian Cultural Industries and Institutions McGill University 3465 rue Peel,=20 Montreal, Quebec=20 H3A 1W7 Phone: (514) 398 7667; Fax: (514) 398 4934 http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/crccii/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Absolute Sound article Date: 10 Oct 1996 19:14:14 -0600 (MDT) Tony "Wildman" Wilds writes: >It's all so embarassing. But the politics angle is intriguing. I'd say most >of the leaders of this movement are self-described libertarians; >conservatives are well represented (by a few, key people at least), not to >mention you weird kids under 30; there's the perpetual mass of squishy >liberals; and we have more than a few, apolitical freaks waiting patiently >for the saucers to come. > >Thankfully, the music is polluted by NONE of this, with the exception of a >few "We like Ike" calypsos and such. And Marlene Dietrich trying to >disassociate herself from the Heino crowd. I haven't read this article, and it seems likely that it would have cheesed me off if I had access to it, but I do wish the politics of the people on the list was kept out of it. There have been a few disturbing comments lately - this one from Tony is NOT one of them, I agree with him. Music is music. Sometimes it has a political angle. Sometimes it doesn't. But some of the recent comments on politics or political ideological leanings lately has really put me off being involved with this list. The fact that I DON'T want to force my beliefs down people's throats should give a good idea which way I swing...but can we all just leave our two cents out on left and right, liberal and conservative, etc. I would sure enjoy this all a lot more. Thanks. Jill Colloquium Internet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Subject: Re: (exotica) answer this! Date: 10 Oct 1996 19:34:14 -0600 (MDT) Yeah, yeah, Jill "Mingo-go" Mingo here. Can't resist this. Loungin' Laura has come up with a cracker, and me being "serious in Scotland" can't resist. Also, if you should ever meet me in the flesh, you will soon notice that I talk non-stop which obviously crosses over into email. OK? >1. Are you a musician? Explain... No. But I promote them via press publicity. Had guitar lessons once, but frankly couldn't be bothered practising. I kinda won them anyway as a "good music student" in the 4th grade. >2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Hmmm...I always liked this stuff. I suppose Astrud Gilberto on the local EZ station made me decide that I should actually find out who did this great record and buy it instead of thinking "I really like music like this" and waiting for it to come on the radio. Then I got into Brazilian, etc. Of course Herb Alpert, The Ventures, Enoch Light were ever present. Oh, and I actually bought The Ventures "Golden Greats" full price when I was about 12 so maybe that was the first... >3. This list could help you more by... kind people passing on their exotic finds for 50 cents when they have doubles. It is really hard to find ANYTHING decent in the UK. >4. Other exotica/things you collect Oh, hell. I like Tikis. I like cacti. I like lava lamps. Masks. But I don't actually "collect" anything including music. I ENJOY it. >5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Techno. Experimental electronica. House. Ambient. Psychotic trip-hop. Hard drum & bass. >6. What are you just dying to tell us? I am not Scottish. I am a Yank from St. Louis. It is true! Don't let the accent fool you! > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality >consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell >us more! Total toss up. LPs sometimes sound better. CDs sometimes sound better. Covers on LPs are much better. CDs are easy to maintain and lighter to carry and less hassle to play and last longer. LPs smell nicer. LPs are cheaper. Given an LP and CD both at the same price, I would probably buy the LP, but it would depend on my mood. > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or >other lounge-wear of which you are proud? No. Used to wear a lot of hats when I had my head shaved. Keeps in the heat. I listen lounge, but don't necessarily look lounge. Look more like a techno babe or scruff bag. But I DO have a lovely brown and tan polyester pants suit with flowers on it that I got for $1, and...enough is enough! Mingo-go, shut up!!!!!!!!!!! Colloquium Internet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MoeLawns@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Lounge Laura Wants To Know Date: 10 Oct 1996 23:34:27 -0400 I used to post daily, back when I had access to this thing called CCmail, a program that was open the entire time I was on the computer. Since then, I scroll through the digest and post once in a blue moon so here goes! 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Yep, Played bass in various punk & garage bands '78-'91 (The Suspects, Johnny Sevin, Suzanne & The Erotics, Clean Dog, Yard Trauma (with Lance "Karla" Kaufman!), The Unclaimed) and guitar '91-'94 (The Enemies, The Outsideinside). I don't play anymore, just live vicarously through the bands I work with! 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Arthur Lyman's Taboo 2 (picked it up in a thrift store back home in Tucson, 1979 or so, 'cause of the cover . Dug the music cause it reminded me of the Kon Tiki restaurant near my parent's house!) 3. This list could help you more by... Buying me a drink 4. Other exotica/things you collect Tiki mugs and statues (over 200 of 'em), a tiki bar, moody lights, want to start collecting blowfish lamps (have two already). 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Punkrock (mid 60s, late 70s & early 80s variety), rockabilly, greasy R&B, surf, garage, some psych, Zappa '66-'73, Louis Prima’s big band stuff, stupid novelty records, Link Wray-esque instros, talk radio!! 6. What are you just dying to tell us? I'm naked! 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell us more! LP! We hear in ANALOG. Digital sound has holes in it, because the sampling rate is so low. It needs to be increased AT LEAST three times the current rate. The difference is like comparing a photograph, with a 1/2 toned version of the same photo (like it would appear in a magazine or newspaper). See all those dots that comprise the 1/2 toned photo? That my friends is the visual equivelt of digital sound. This is really obvious on horns; A/B the horns from a Sinatra or Prima record to a CD version! Oh, the cover art. THE COVER ART. It is better...more fun!!!! 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Nope...Do have some three button small lapel paisley jackets (wait a moment, one of them came from the same thrift store session as the Lyman "Taboo 2" album mentioned above. Is this some kind of sign??). No secrets left??? Mmmm....... Lee Joseph working late at the Dionysus Empire! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: poot! Subject: (exotica) Leopard Skin Date: 10 Oct 1996 20:52:12 -0700 All this leopard skin talk reminds me of what has become a funny story. Three years ago, my wife and I searched high and low lookin' for leopard skin bedding or pillows. Could not find them anywhere! Really - we live in San Francisco - you would not think such a thing would be so hard to find. Clerks looked at us like we were crazy. Now you can get leopard skin "this" and leopard skin "that" at Target and Wal-mart stores across the land. It is now a gimmick, folks - what was once a cool thing is no longer that. Basically, Poot! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: (exotica) How To Speak Hip Date: 10 Oct 1996 21:31:14 -0700 >From: david.trezza@etak.com (David Trezza) Here's some things I picked up this week that >I'm not sure what to expect. Any surprises here? >Del CLose & John Brent - How to SPeak Hip >Mercury - OCM2205 David, You scored IMHO (in my humble opinion) with this rekkid ;-/> Del Close and John Brent have a little cool blip on the 3 CD collection by Rhino of The Beat Generation. I do have that record and from time to time play it frequently on my show. Tre' quell man. Can't tell you who is who BUT 1 guy is this totally straight sounding white bread, Winder bread sort of personality and he is "interviewing" the other characterr who is "The Beatnik" with ALL OF THE LINGO AND SCHPIEL down pat Like you never heard man, I AM AS SERIOUS AS A HEART ATTACK This record IS too cool The Beatnik talks about what being Cool is. What's not cool and what is How it mean's different things "Thou shall not bug thy neighbor man" is an example of how to be cool If you take drugs and smoke pot, then that too is Cool. BUT not to THE MAN if you know what I mean AND I think you do!@! But after getting high and going out to The Village and stopping in a diner and ordering a rasberry jello with whipped cream and then eating that and then ordering another one and eating that and then just about to order another one you realize that by opdering another one MIGHT NOT BE COOL is only 1 example of thousands There is this type IS stuff all over this record Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful is all I CAN SAY! ;-/> These guys are obviosly comedians and this is a take off on the whole Beatnik thing, tongue rooted firmly in cheek. WHY ?? Because that's how it was way back when in the old days These straight and straight sounding journalism majors interviewed the likes of Ferlinghetti & Kerouac in exactly this manner AND can be found on the Beat Generation CD comp from Rhino No I don't work for them, it's just a good thang baby ;-/> Jaaaaaack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bryan Jare Cuevas Subject: (exotica) Re: (exotic) answer this! Date: 10 Oct 1996 23:57:29 -0400 (EDT) I guess I'm one of those silent post-the-cheap-record-finds kinda guy.....sorry, deals just make me vibrate. > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Used to be - a long time ago....guitar, piano, organ (lowrey, but dreaming of the monster pipes). 8 years of graduate school killed the musician. > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Los Admiradores "Bongos, Bongos, Bongos" (Command RS-809-SD, 1959).....about 5 years ago this thing knocked me off the couch - that Command sound! That music's ALIVE! > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Jazz/pop vocals (1940s-1960s), especially male vocalists of the influential black baritone school - Billy Eckstine, Al Hibbler, Earl Coleman, Johnny Hartman, etc. Despite what these reissue labels want us to think, these vocalists are not kitsch....a pet peeve of mine. 70's soul, funk and jazz-funk - been doing this thing for close to 15 years....especially crave the streetwise edge of the early 70s - Black Nasty, The Politicians, Kool & The Gang (pre-74), Funkadelic (Westbound years), and so on - but still persuaded by that late 70s groove.... > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality > consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell > us more! I'm in it for the MUSIC....I'll take that anyway it comes along, but prefer the LP, if nothing more than nostalgia. The price doesn't hurt as much either. Back to my corner bryan j. cuevas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: (exotica) SUKIA Date: 10 Oct 1996 21:31:53 -0700 >From: nytab@nyc.pipeline.com (lou smith) >Does anyone know if they're worth taking home? > >1) SUKIA: Contacto Espacial Con Tercer Sexo (Nickelbag) > (recorded in DOUBLE MONO ACTION SOUND) I've been told that this CD is amazing I plan on getting it and I (really) don't like CD's!!!;)) Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: huge@sirius.com (Huge Graphics) Subject: (exotica) It's just my nature... Date: 10 Oct 1996 22:06:10 -0700 >1. Are you a musician? Explain... Yes. I play music on special instruments designed to make noises. >2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Uhmm....hmmm.....uhmmm...still thinking.....hmmm.....hmmm >3. This list could help you more by... Keeping my house more tidy. >4. Other exotica/things you collect Are ketchup packets considered exotica? >5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Wesley Willis! Rock over London! Rock on Chicago! Burger King - Home of the Whopper!! >6. What are you just dying to tell us? I once shaved my armpits. > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality >consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell >us more! I prefer both! > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or >other lounge-wear of which you are proud? A Fez!!? What do I look like?!!! You probably assume I smoke cigars as well... E-David Grand Poobah-doobah Huge International *************************************************************** "It's bigger than big -- It's Huge!" Huge Graphics http://www.sirius.com/~huge *************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (exotica) Velvet Brass Date: 10 Oct 1996 23:19:10 -0600 (MDT) > There was a question as to whether Jackie Gleason's "Velvet > Brass" was released in stereo - checked mine - it's in beautiful > stereo - Capitol SW859. Ditto for the original CD release (1987; Capitol CDP 7-48330-2). I'll go to the mat with anyone over the incredibly swankitude this album posesses. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lsd@bitstream.net Subject: Re: (exotica) answer this! Date: 11 Oct 1996 00:53:15 -0500 I don't lurk as much as I dash through this list, but I have postponed bedtime tonight in order to respond to this loverly quiz...... >1. Are you a musician? Explain... No. But I occasionally strap on an accordian I keep handy in the living room and squeeze out incredible sounds and think to myself "if only I knew how to play this thing...I could be a musician!". >2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? For years I bought dead peoples records at estate sales for the cover art only. For years I had no idea what it was I had. It was listening to Esquivel that made me wake up and smell all the bacon around the house. (pew) >3. This list could help you more by... ... allowing direct absorbtion via osmosis so that I didn't have to stay up so late catching up on postings. >4. Other exotica/things you collect see question 8. >5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Sound collage stuff (Tape Beatles; Negativeland), the weird & wacky ("Made in America", produced by Erik Lindgren on Arf! Arf!), girl groups, brit pop, psych slop, bad trucker records...you name it--I've probably got a spot in my heart for it. >6. What are you just dying to tell us? I think I know how to intercept those packages that Tony Wilds sends to /dave/. Who wants stuff?! :) > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality >consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell >us more! Nothing beats finding some craaazzy record with fantabulous artwork for cheap. I'm more apt to fondle my records and pour over them for hours seeking out every tiny fragment of information. Having said that, I must admit that I do really enjoy the convenience of just poppin' a cd in the player and enjoying an hour of uninterrupted music. > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or >other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Yes. I own a fez with Ozzie Nelson's name printed on the inside that originated from the temple Al Malaikah in Los Angeles. (Could it be?) It's an utterly 'pimped out' specimen. It has *the* longest tassle (black) I have ever seen on a fez! (I have a dozen more in my 'Shrine to the Shrine'collection, *and* a number of 'bobbin'- head shriners' as well! These guys were/are prolific--they commerorate everything! Coz....they're just Masons who wanna have fun!) P.S. And, I am not at all *tired* of you and co-conspirators.....golly--I just wish I had more time to come out and play! "Babs" The Friday Night Poker Party on KFAI 90.3 & 106.7 FM Minneapolis 10:30 - Midnight > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (exotica) answer this! Date: 10 Oct 1996 23:51:17 -0600 (MDT) I'm passing up a much-needed stint on the exerbike to write this, so be nice. > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... No. Pretty much everyone else in my family is, though. My dad plays (and used to teach) bluegrass banjo and my kid brother is trying to make a living as a guitarist with his band (Apricot Jam -- they're kind of this vaguely-funky all-acoustic Deadhead thing). > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? MMmmm, can't point to any one thing, sorry. It has something to do with my dad's enormous Chet Atkins collection and my loving the Ferrante & Teicher stuff they used to play as background music on the overnight TV news ticker when I was a kid. Take a drunkard's walk from there while staring at old RCA Victor sleeve art and you end up here somehow. > 3. This list could help you more by... Can't think of anything... > 4. Other exotica/things you collect Postwar furnishings. I have a very cool teak living room set that according to the people I bought it from used to belong to Victor Borge's brother. (I assume they were telling the truth because I got the whole thing -- two end tables, a chair, and a rocker -- for $60 and I *don't* look like the kind of guy you try to impress by talking about your connection to Victor Borge.) I don't really collect this stuff for the sake of having it; if I can't use it I don't bother with it unless it's just too incredible a find to pass up. I'm not really into the formica end of things either, though I do have one of those Sputnik-esque starburst chandeliers in the kitchen . . . Also very into comics, mostly non-superhero stuff. And books. Too many books. Gotta stop buying books for a year or two so I can catch up on them. Working on the Black Lizard-edition Jim Thompson stuff right now, and picking up everything I can find on 20th-Century Los Angeles. Plus acres of other things as they catch my eye. > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Ooo, don't get me started. Lots of synthpop and dance music, though. Check http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs for a cheap summary of the bands I collect seriously. > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? This is by far the most civilized and active mailing list I participate in, let alone run, and you people are all just great. I love you all. >Smaaaak!< > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality > consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell > us more! I own both in huge quantities in a roughly 50/50 split, but the CDs get more attention because I can listen to them at work as well as at home. I'm not into the LP-vs-CD thing and if this descends into that I'm getting out the water cannon! > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? I own a very snappy black fedora. (Also, it's not specifically loungey but I *did* end up owning the "Simpsons" crew jacket they gave Lawrence Tierney for appearing on the show a while back -- let's slide that one in for its possible "crime jazz" implications . . . the man played Dillinger, fer chrissakes!) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: (exotica) Scary stuff fo' Holloh-ween Date: 11 Oct 1996 00:34:17 -0700 >>Mr. Smooth is looking for scary or theme-based music that he can play on his >>Halloween program. He thought he would play the opening music from Ed Wood >>(bongos mixed in with eerie music) and maybe from "Monster" (a jazz organ >>album). However, I bet there are much better ideas out there (not to diss >>Mr. S). Ed Wood Day The Earth Stood Still Kenyon Hopkins SHOCK! Music in Hi-Fi & Nightmare Ray Heindorf Orchestra w/ Sam Hoffman-Theremin-Spellbound I've got this 45 EP called Music for Monsters that is very fucked up theremin pop screaching with the sound of a storm in the background, thunder and lightning crashing about and _this really whacked out kitty kat_ screaming her brains out. Quite funand insane Perfect for a holloween party or for music for your front door ;)) on Holloween eve There's (of course) Music for Monsters and Dinner Music for Monsters, The Skeleton Glide and something else. I heard that years ago they were sold at TOWER and I also heard NOBODY bought them!!! That they threw out hundreds of copies AAAAEEEIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!! That the _real_ screamer;-/> I know the 1st 2 are on CD but then the others....well ??? There is a piece in Mancini's Touch of Evil that is VERY DARK and cool,very scary but then of course there is also Quincy Jones score to In Cold Blood and then The Bad Seed score by Alex North w/ Ray Heindorf is amazing Ever seen The Bad Seed ? It has a happy ending IF you like happy endings and all that. Y'know not all Private Eye/Crime Jazz is bold and brassy. Alot of it is really dark and dirty and moldy and rotten to the core Ha ha haaaaaaa Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clean@bitstream.net Subject: Re: (exotica) answer this! Date: 11 Oct 1996 04:07:07 -0500 (CDT) ALRIGHT! ALRIGHT! Ya caught me! I am lurking!! I am lurking!! Actually, i've sent a few posts to the list here and there, but certainly not often enough to warrant one of "Lounge 'nicknames-for-all' Laura"s nicknames. Maybe I'm just too "nice, shy & polite". Well, that is about to change... 1. Are you a musician? Explain... yeah, i guess so. i haven't done anything for the last few years, but played bass and guitar for a long time and dabbled in other instruments as well. It's a hobby. Professionally, I have been a club DJ since '84 and, although i'd rather not get into it here, that could be considered being a "musician" too. 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? hmmm... well, i think it was kind of gradual. As a kid I always LOVED Herb Alpert and Henry Mancini (stuff from dad's collection), and as a DJ through the 80s, would sometimes throw a little Enoch in the set just to screw with people (cheeezy!). About 4 years ago, I discovered Prez Prado's "Havana, 3am" in my grandmother's attic and that led to a more regular dose of exotica in my club sets (eventually with less 'camp' appeal and more serious thought behind its rhythm & mood blending with that of the tribal house and jazzy triphop people were dancing to - enter Towa Tei and Dimitri From Paris). An zine article and interview with ComEd first exposed me to Esquivel (pre-reissues), and sent me off on a mission... 3. This list could help you more by... ...everyone giving me their records. 4. Other exotica/things you collect I collect everything. I am an obsessive packrat. My apartment is starting to look like a Dr. Seuss drawing. 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like oh man! I just love music! all kinds! to name a few artists: St. Etienne, Chemical Bros., Cheap Trick, Prefab Sprout, Jellyfish, Underworld, Japan, Stephen Duffy, KISS, Billy Bragg, Chic, Prince, The Smiths, New Order, Meat Beat Manifesto, They Might Be Giants, Blur, Smashing Pumpkins, ELO, Yello, Parliament, Inner City, 808 State, The Cardigans... it goes on... 6. What are you just dying to tell us? I am the mild-mannered alter ego of the devilishly suave "King Kini" who hosts/DJs a lounge night called "Club Velvet" here in Minneapolis every Saturday. Tiki torches, drink umbrellas, luau lights, mambos, spys, coconut cups and a mirror ball help set the mood. Next month we will celebrate Club Velvet's one year anniversary! King Kini also does an EZ radio show every Thursday and Sunday night: "Radio Velvet" on tiny BeatRadio 97.7fm (mpls). 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell us more! I prefer LPs for the sound, the art, the DJing aspects, the price, the smell, the feel, the GROOOOVE! ...but i have no problem enjoying a CD of nice music either. (EXCEPT on a club soundsystem - ugh!). 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or other lounge-wear of which you are proud? I WANT A FEZ DESPERATELY! I WANT A FEZ! I WANT A FEZ! I DO, however, have a cool fuzzy hat and a wonderful smoking jacket that you can see me wearing on my website. I promise not to be so quiet anymore - Dean visit... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ King Kini's C L U B V E L V E T http://www2.bitstream.net/~clean +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Gresham Subject: Re: (exotica) answer this! Date: 11 Oct 1996 13:48:08 +0100 (BST) On 10 Oct 1996, Laura Taylor wrote: > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Yes - Hammond player and electronic composer (a la Stockhausen) > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Johnny Keating - Space Experience > 3. This list could help you more by... Distributing samples of all the tracks discussed as an attachment to each message > 4. Other exotica/things you collect Apart from lots of records? Books, trainers, and lots of keyboards - hammond, wurlitzer, roland Juno, bontempi battery operated organ, hohner pianet, and lots of other stuff. > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like DJ Food, Goldie, John B, JTQ. > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? I'm a closet junglist. > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality > consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell > us more! LP no question. CDs are more convenient, but I don't trust any format that swallows the media and you can't touch it when it's going. As a DJ there's no question as to which is preferable. HAS to be LP. > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? NEVER. Never have, never will - not my kinda style. I am quite proud of my small collection of toweling t-shirts though... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Rhodewalt Subject: Re: (exotica) answer this! Date: 11 Oct 1996 06:29:43 -0700 clean@bitstream.net wrote: > > ALRIGHT! ALRIGHT! > > Ya caught me! I am lurking!! I am lurking!! Actually, i've sent a few > posts to the list here and there, but certainly not often enough to warrant > one of "Lounge 'nicknames-for-all' Laura"s nicknames. Maybe I'm just too > "nice, shy & polite". Well, that is about to change... > > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Yup. Lots of dusty tales, but I'm mostly proud of founding and leading the Lopez Beatles in L.A. in the early '80s. We played music that was _not_ popular, and tried to make it fun in a rock scene where fun was frowned on. The "Gidget" theme, Up With People's "The Walk of Ed White," Shaggs' "Philosophy of the World," Bert Kaempfert's "LOVE," "Alley Cat," "Satin Doll," "No Matter What Shape Your Stomach Is In," a lot of Frank covers, and a lot of originals in that spirit. We played one wedding, and the drummer (now in Medicine but a veteran of many, many weddings, etc.) insisted that we do "Proud Mary" and "We've Only Just Begun" and they came out okay, IMHO! Currently, I sing part-time for a small professional opera company. > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Arthur Lyman's "Yellow Bird" single when it was new and I was about 5. > 3. This list could help you more by... Dropping old topics sooner. Closing the "Incredibly Strange Music" books and finding your own sounds. What about "Bozo Under the Sea"? What about those audio renderings of Golden Books? I want to hear from more TJB fans. Doesn't any else like Lester Lanin? > 4. Other exotica/things you collect I'm not allowed to collect since I got married, but I have a lot of Apollo memorabilia from my dad. > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Everything. Currently on the stack next to my PC? From the top down, it's Stravinsky's Firebird, "Irish Harp Songs" by Emily Mitchell, two early Joni Mitchell CDs, "Illuminations" (anthology) from Axiom, one of those Bulgarian women choral CDs, Mahler Symphony #1, and my friend's homemade CD from his "Tapestry: the music of carole king" live cast recording. (Current Exotica includes "Touch of Evil" and Arthur Lyman "In a Christmas Vibe.") > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? During a routine prostate exam one morning earlier this month I passed out and then spent the rest of the day barfing and sleeping it off. Everyone tells me it's because of my father's death of colon cancer a few days before, but I didn't feel nervous or anything. I've been without alcohol for over six years now and it feels terrific. I recommend it to everyone. > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality > consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell > us more! I have had two CD players with intermittent skipping problems that drive me insane! INSANE! And the art on LPs is easily superior. But the Teuton in me loves the efficiency of CDs (when they work). I really like that 2-CD package that opens up inside and is the same size as the standard jewel box. > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Nope. Lots of ties, though, including wide, narrow, old, new, and a nice selection of real bow ties inherited from my grandfather that I actually tie and wear. Just like a big boy! Thanks, Laura. You know, some of these on-line groups have conventions. Who's up for it? Bruce Rhodewalt kahuna@tikipub.com ____________________________________________________________ Creative Internet http://www.tikipub.com solutions from... 78-365 Highway 111, Suite 241 * Tiki Publishing * La Quinta, CA 92253 * 1-888-TIKIPUB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anton Elmquist Subject: Re: (exotica) answer this! Date: 11 Oct 1996 10:22:19 -0400 Ah, Ms. Quiz Ambassador, how nice of you to ask! > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... But of course. I play bass in oyabando, a sort of half-japanese action-surf-jazz-etc. outfit headquartered in the city of Brooklyn, New York. Oue next gig is on the 1st of November, at the New Music Cafe. I sing every song that has to do with liquor, and I'm working on one today about the episode of Scooby-Doo where they unfreeze that caveman and at the end Scooby is dancing with the corpse of the unfrozen caveman... > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? That'd have to be the Baja Marimba Band LP that my sister and I used to bake apple pies to... > 3. This list could help you more by... Helping me figure out who does this tape I have of Hawaiian guitar music with 70's rock overtones... the album belonged to a music professor in Texas... > 4. Other exotica/things you collect Lesseee, 3-D jesuses, shiny suits... recipes for things made with gin... > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Im big on conjunto music - in fact, I'm writing a master's thesis on comparative Texan polka style... always a great thing to mention to your girlfriend's father - "Well, as soon as I finish my thesis on comparative Texan polka style..." I also (see Tony's calypso thread way above) am big on calypso from the 30's - "The Gold in Africa" about Mussolini's invasion of Ethiopia is a favorite. > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? Don't drive Saturns! They're a hoax! Saturn owners do NOT honk and wave at each other and hang out at each other's houses AND... THEY'RE NOT FROM SATURN!!! > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality > consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell > us more! Well, I have to say, I am a loser here. I don't really have a preference - I like the convenience and durability of CDs, and the sensual qualities and bang fer yer buck of LP's. When in doubt, go with Hi-Fi Mono. > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? > Fezzez? Not a one! But I do own... lessee... blue sharkskin jacket, nice terrycloth beach shirts, OH MY GOD! I just realized that I gave away the gold lame pants! Friend Andre was over the other weekend - Deb and him and I stayed up all night arranging the letters from a stickers for the band SuperHeated - came up with a new superhero "Up Ted SuperHead" - and the next day, we sent him on his way to the West Side Impound Lot wearing the gold pants! Well, if you see him wandering the streets, you'll certainly recognize him. Well, i gotta be slouchin' off to my cyber-grind. - Anton "2-Door" Elmquist -- *********************************************************** * Anton Elmquist - Programming and Design * *********************************************************** * Check out the The Bed-Stuy Network! * * http://www.spacelab.net/~anton * * * * And the OYABANDO page - Surf music links and more... * * http://www.spacelab.net/~anton/oyabando * * * * "Guitar lines that taste like grape jelly" * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) answer this! Date: 11 Oct 1996 11:01:49 -0400 Well, I'm replying to Lounge Laura's questions. The first CD that got me hooked on Bachelor Pad music was Music For A Bachelor's Den. I was in Tower records and was hearing this CD playing. While browsing I was thinking how unusual it was for Tower to be playing this kind of music. Then I heard "So Rare" by Jimmy Dorsey and just started smiling. I hadn't heard that in years. I strolled by the counter and saw the CD displayed under "Now Playing", (which is the way Tower suckers you into hearing stuff they want you to buy). I didn't buy the CD that first time, but I kept thinking about it. I knew that I could duplicate that CD just plowing through my collection and picking and choosing. Well, to make a long story a little bit shorter, I now own ALL of the Ultra Lounge and Scamp and what comes out of that genre. I love the stuff. I prefer vinyl, probably a good part of the reason is the cover art. That means a lot to me when I buy and album. I go garage saling every weekend and sometimes I'll pick up an album just for the cover alone. I display them on my walls in my home office. I heard about this list through my good friend, David Smay. He's a music collector extrordainnaire. (sp?) He also introduced me to the VERY cool zine called "Cool and Strange Music". In fact, the latest issue has a letter of mine, near the back of the magazine. I talk about my love for these old records in that letter. I really love that zine. Anymore like it? I'd buy them all!! Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jpmckay@cyborganic.net (Paul McKay) Subject: (exotica) Re:answer this! Date: 11 Oct 1996 11:03:56 -0400 >1. Are you a musician? Explain... HA! Was kicked out of sixth grade band and never returned, but I play a mean hi-fi. >2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Herb Alpert Presents Sergio Mendes and Brasil 66 - so fine for dancing. Did I mention I love to dance? Mambo, Samba, Cha-cha-cha, I'll dance the night away. >3. This list could help you more by... Let me think . . . >4. Other exotica/things you collect Trav-L-Bars, old ballroom dance instructional texts, pulp detective novels, broken sound equipment for tinkering >5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Blue Note hard bop jazz, California cool jazz, big-band swing, torch singing, opera, acid jazz, trip-hop, hip-hop, blues, soul, Motown, ambient and so on and so on . . . >6. What are you just dying to tell us? I've got a recording of Mr. Frank Sinatra singing the Kermit the Frog song "It Isn't Easy Being Green." > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality >consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell >us more! LPs, as if the fact that they are so cheap isn't enough (I usually pay 25 cents each) they are so much fun to play on my 1965 Sears & Roebuck Mediterranean console stereo and the beautiful covers means I have an ever changing selection of wall art in my den. Insert long and fantastically boring technical lecture on the measurable advantages of analog recordings over current digitization rate cd technology with regards to how the Nyquist cutoff criterion eliminates all upper range harmonics and truncates the sound spectrum (e-mail me if you really want to read this). But the next generation CD standard will eliminate all of that and will truely offer superior sound so we just need to be patient (can we say megahertz sampling rate?) > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or >other lounge-wear of which you are proud? No fezes, only fedoras. I have a GORGOUS midnight blue crushed velvet smoking jacket with black satin lapels and cuffs with the label "Lounge Togs - Styled by Enro" Paul McKay jpmckay@cyborganic.net Visit Swank-O-Rama http://www.cyborganic.net/People/jpmckay Keep your listening easy and your martinis dry. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: guinto@id.ucsb.edu (Marie Guinto) Subject: Re: (exotica) answer this! Date: 11 Oct 1996 08:46:02 -0800 Marie here....it's time to spill the beans >1. Are you a musician? Explain... Not really, although I was 1st chair clarinet in the eight grade. Then as I ventureed to high school the band uniforms (q-tip hats, velcro spanking white moon boots) scared me, I then played in the jazz band, tenor sax. Oh and also took piano for awhile, and singing lessons. Oh that's a pretty big list, maybe I am a musician.....call me jack of all trades master of none :) (No relation to any of the Jacks on the list) >2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Enoch light started it all.......aaahhh fond memories >3. This list could help you more by... naming specifics label, year etc. about albums mentioned, but for the most part I've been a happy camper. >4. Other exotica/things you collect Minature toilets, pens--I have a thing about Sharpies. >5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Polka- Myron Floren, Jazz divas-Fitzgerald, Washington, Simone, Holiday, Nancy Wilson-earlier stuff, PoP- Cardigans, CUB!!!!, Holiday, Nerdy Girl, Tarnation, and yes I also like a bit of dance music, trip-hop--(oohh I'm naming sub genres) -Tricky, Single cell Orchestra, DJ Krush, Scorn. And when I need to rock out-Tool, Black Sabbath...I think I'll stop there. >6. What are you just dying to tell us? The first concert I went to was a Donny and Marie concert with my parents. Donny Osmond walked through our row and I.....I.......touched Donny's purple socks. As a kid I thought my mom named me after Marie Osmond. > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality >consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell >us more! I can't really decide, so both. > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or >other lounge-wear of which you are proud? I looked at my closet the other day....grim, but my dresses seemed to have a certain black cocktail thing about them. Unfortunately next week I'm invited to a wedding and am in a dilema on actually buying a dress that's not black...what to do. P.S. on a side note I'm quite pleased that someone mentioned Wesley Willis-the man rocks, he's a rock n roll super star. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jbatutis@AMEXPUB.COM (Joe Batutis) Subject: Re: (exotica) answer this! Date: 11 Oct 1996 11:05:33 -0400 I used to be a better poster to this list, but a new job has turned me into a marginal lurker. 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Yup. I play guitar, sax and fool about on the keys. (fair two fisted fake hammond crap) 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? My parents had the Pink Panther soundtrack that I played to death. 3. This list could help you more by... less flames, more info 4. Other exotica/things you collect Pulp paperbacks but not much else, due to lack of space in my NYC apartment. 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Spoken Word, James Brown, Jazz Singers(Sinatra!), surf 6. What are you just dying to tell us? I've had troubling fantasies about women in gorilla costumes, but the good doctor has helped me. (http://darkstar.madscience.com/~benway/ps/) 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell us more! CDs, due to space considerations and the price of vinyl in the big apple. 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or other lounge-wear of which you are proud? I own a red fez with black tassel with some kind of shriner emblem on the front. I also own a wonderful gold smoking jacket. Joe B. http://www.amexpub.com/jbatutis/noddmusic/oddmusic.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RALPHA6982@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Granada- English lyrics? Date: 11 Oct 1996 12:56:48 -0400 Anyone have a version of "Grenada" with English lyrics? I have the TRini Lopez live at PJ's and was wondering if any other people rocked this oldie up or did weird stuff to the arrangement. Gladly pay for a cassette. Ralph Alfonso ---------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: (exotica) Laura talks to herself Date: 11 Oct 1996 13:12:16 -0400 1. Are you a musician? Explain... I am by some standards a musician. People tell me I am, though I have not yet accepted this. I have a Theremin. I am no Samuel Hoffman, though, I enjoy the amateur space-sounds aspects of the instrument. Clara Rockmore would *hate* me. I also have little keyboard skills, but thankfully have a MOOG-a lead instrument, that makes me sound like I know what I'm doing. And I have a decent voice-which is my main instrument. I am mostly a performer at heart. 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? I began my foray into this sort of music about 10 years ago, but by no means seriously. I picked up what I guess is now called "incredibly strange" music in thrift stores, like a polka album called PEACE AND LOVE FROM HAPPY, JULCIA AND THE BOYS. I bought Leonard Nimoy albums. I enjoyed goofy stuff in the GOLDEN THROATS vein. I loved Henry Mancini in a serious way, and nice "loungey" sounds a la Herb Alpert, Frank Sinatra, Johnny Mathis and other crooners. If it was weird, I dug it, but mostly as a novelty. Keep in mind, though, that I was/am by nature a punk/60s/pop fan. Then I had the epiphany. It was late at night, driving out of foggy New York City into New Jersey. My now-boyfriend, who is a major Les Baxter freak, taped TAMBOO! For me. So, imagine the scenario. The dark...the fog...and then THE VOICES...(ah-ah-ah-ahhhh) of SIMBA! I realized that this music is legitimate! Not a novelty! By no means square! For me, it was my new rock-n-roll! And I made connections between music before that I'd perceived as novel and music like Mancini's I had always enjoyed as legitimate. I haven't heard this opinion on the list yet, but I predict some of Baxter's work will be regarded as "classical" in the new Milenium. 3. This list could help you more by... Giving me more factual information on dates/artists/bios. For instance, I want to know more about Plas Johnson. Like a good jazz dj- I want to know who played on what song, what label put it out, etc. I am a music trivia type! I want knowledge! 4. Other exotica/things you collect Toys, View Masters(just starting, but already have good stuff), rock-related books and videos, cool clothes, Tiki-stuff(again, just starting but ahead of the curve in some cases), weird films and related... 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Redd Kross is favorite moderne band. Velvet Underground and Beatles rock 60s. Too many other to mention...but again, luv punk/new wave/60s garage! 6. What are you just dying to tell us? It would have been about my former band...but I am now struggling to get something else together. My claim to fame is interviewing Dick Hyman at his home this year. He's a cooolllll cat! I think I often reveal myself on this list...so I *know* you needn't any more about me! 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality consideration? The aesthetics fo LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell us more! I have affection for LP and things analog in general. LPS just plain sound better, IMHO, UNTIL THEY SCRATCH! That's when I am happy to have CDS. Plus, a lot of this music is so hard to find that I want the SOUNDS rather than the object. For instance, the CD boots of THE PASSIONS! PERFUME SET TO MUSIC etc. are great to have because I don't on LP. I also am thrilled the EXOTIC MOODS OF LES was released on CD! But mostly, I lllloooovvveee LP art and there are some duds I have that I will keep simply for the gorgeous covers. 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassle color? Describe it or other lounge-wear of which you are proud? NO fez! Boy do I look silly in those! I have fezzed things(two little shriners) and a cool fez stick pin! Lounge-wear includes feather boas, furs, velvet dresses and gloves. Leopard clothing, too! But I am more SPACE ESCAPADE in my approach(shiny vinyl clothes) at times than I am Com Ed. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Townsend Subject: (exotica) Re: Laura Wants to Know.... Date: 11 Oct 1996 10:13:30 -0700 In response to Laura's kind demand, er, uh...request, we lurkers have come out of the woodwork. This was a great idea. I'm really digging reading everyone's kooky responses. You people are nuts...N-V-T-S....nuts!! (nod to Mel Brooks) And on to my dull responses...... 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Yes, I play drums in a lame-ass-pseudo-alterna-rock band that takes itself WAY too seriously. I just love to play. Even if it is at biker bars in Lemon Grove at midnight on a Thursday when I gotta get up and work the next day at 7. ps: I don't write the music, so I can slam it all I want :) 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Probably "Bongo Madness" or "VOODOO: Sounds of Polynesia..." I found 'em in the garage. As young J. Diamond pointed out, "Maybe Mom was a beatnik". 3. This list could help you more by... Telling me where to get supplies (LP bags, sleeves, needles, turntables, etc.) in SAN DIEGO!!! Yes, I have the Bags Unlimited number, but I'm too lazy to call and then wait for the mail. 4. Other exotica/things you collect Uh..I've got a cool vase(?)mug(?)cup(?) that could be considered a tiki, I think. Got it in LA on Melrose. 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like GIMME INDIE ROCK!!!! Unrest, Guided by Voices, Yo La Tengo...and a bunch of others that you guys have never heard of. AND of course, San Diego's favorite sons, Rocket from the Crypt. 6. What are you just dying to tell us? I'm getting married in two weeks and my young bride won't lemme get a new hi-fi. As Laura deftly pointed out, "You can't be a swank couple without a hi-fi!!!" 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell us more! I have to defer to the infinite wisdom of Jill "the faux Scot" Mingo who said..... >Total toss up. LPs sometimes sound better. CDs sometimes sound better. >Covers on LPs are much better. CDs are easy to maintain and lighter to carry >and less hassle to play and last longer. LPs smell nicer. LPs are cheaper. >Given an LP and CD both at the same price, I would probably buy the LP, but >it would depend on my mood. I agree 127%. 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or other lounge-wear of which you are proud? No fez, but I have an authentic ukelele from Hawaii. Guess I can't wear it, though. That's it fer now. Thanx fer listening. Dan "Bitte, baby, I am NOT from Havana!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@nyc.pipeline.com (lou smith) Subject: (exotica) Enhanced CDs Date: 11 Oct 1996 17:32:41 GMT Now, here's a nifty spot that may interest some of you: Enhanced CD Database Music fans can easily find, sample, and purchase Enhanced music CDs thanks to a new Web site from Apple Computer and its link with Music Boulevard. Enhanced CDs are discs that contain both music, playable in regular CD players and CD-ROM drives, and computer data. Typically the data portion of the disc includes artist information, video, photos or animation. World Wide Web: http://www.musicfan.com/ Not to start the LPvsCD war again, but it seems to me that CDs will tip the odds slightly if they do those things that LPs can't do. Enhanced CDs have that 'value added' aspect that could make them more attractive than they are now. If the re-issues and compilations came with Goldmine style histories, full discographies, a few film clips and photos, etc. they would certainly become more valuable/useful to me. What say y'all? -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Grant China Subject: (exotica) answer this! Date: 11 Oct 1996 07:49:34 -1000 OK, I'm not exactly a lurker but I'm not exactly burning up the bandwidth either. >1. Are you a musician? Explain... Well, I used to be. I made the all-state jazz band in high school (12 years ago now) playing the tenor sax. I can also play the clarinet and can sort of play the flute. More recently, I've been playing cowboy tunes on a small harmonica that a friend gave me. >2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Rhino's Martin Denny CD release "Exotica" >3. This list could help you more by... Keeping the bandwidth down by not going off on tangents too much. It's tough for me to read 50 emails a day and still care what each of them is saying. >4. Other exotica/things you collect Hangovers. >5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Jazz - Charlie Parker is my god. Vocals - Ella, Frank, Dino, Nat Cole, Nancy Wilson, etc. Cowboy music - (*NOT* country and western!!!) Roy Rogers, Tex Ritter, etc. Everything else >6. What are you just dying to tell us? I own autographed albums by Esquivel, Denny, Lyman, Combustible Edison, Don Ho and Johnny Mathis. Maybe some readers are tired of hearing me say this again but I never tire of telling people. Also, I am *NOT* using a nickname. Grant China is my real, actual name (it's pronounced Chee-na). > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality >consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell >us more! Is it allowable to answer CD? I buy the music, not the carrier format. I just prefer CD because I can play them in my car and on the CD-ROM in my computer at work. As far as I know, there are no turntables built for cars available. To prove that I'm not biased in either direction, my CD collection and LP collection are about the same size - about 400 of each. > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or >other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Damn you for rubbing it in. I had a chance to buy a fez a few years ago and passed it up. I have been living in my own private hell ever since. I have a very large selection of Hawaiian aloha shirts. Of course, I live in Hawaii and everybody wears them everywhere (even bank presidents) so I'm really just going along with the crowd. Aloha, Grant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan Dada Vis) Subject: (exotica) Re: Halloween suggestions? Date: 11 Oct 1996 20:04:57 +0100 >From: bag@hubris.net > >Mr. Smooth is looking for scary or theme-based music that he can play on his >Halloween program. check out the 2 "scary sound effects" cd's on rhino: scary pipe organs and theremins galore! also the 2 "monster" comp cd's reviewed at my home page: DADA'QUARIUMS Exotica: "http://www.ping.be/~ping1241/" also Anton Lavey's (?) "strange music" 10" sold by WFMU is rather creepy! = Johan |)/\|)/\ Vis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Grant China Subject: (exotica) Granada- English lyrics? Date: 11 Oct 1996 08:08:12 -1000 >Anyone have a version of "Grenada" with English lyrics? >I have the TRini Lopez live at PJ's and was wondering if any other people >rocked this oldie up or did weird stuff to the arrangement. It shouldn't be suprising that the swingin'est version of this song ever was recorded by Frank Sinatra on the album "Swing Along With Me". It has a cheesy intro but once you've gotten past that, it's pure swing. I also have a recording of it by Desi Arnaz on the CD "Babalu Music!" but offhand I don't recall anything about it. >Gladly pay for a cassette. You can buy it on CD for yourself. But if you feel the need to send me money anyway, maybe we can work something out. Aloha, Grant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "D.J. Johnson" Subject: (exotica) Quiz show Date: 11 Oct 1996 11:29:45 -0700 (PDT) 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Yes. I've been a musician for 25 years. I play guitar, bass, flute, drums, can fake my way through keyboards by "playing simple stuff very enthusiastically," and can play almost any instrument put in front of me, given an hour or so to figure it out. As long as it's not a trumpet-style mouthpiece instrument. I've played in bands playing nearly every genre, my favorites being the funk and reggae bands. I retired from the pro ranks in 1982. Now I have a 4-track on which I record songs that nobody else ever gets to hear, I play guitar through headphones, and I write about other (much much better) musicians in my webzine, Cosmik Debris. 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? I can't pick one specific artist or LP, because it was just a matter of constant exposure to this music as a child. I remember Les Baxter and Arthur Lyman being frequently played at home, and some more "fringe" stuff like Al Caiola and Brasil '66. More than any of that, it was going to these concerts every Friday night at an aqua-theater on Green Lake in Seattle. The seats faced the lake, and the stage was actually on a dock. Tiki torches everywhere. It was called The Aquafollies, and people like Julie London and Pat Sazuki performed between fancy diving performances and comedy skits. That was around 1965. That is what burned the whole Tiki thing into my consciousness, and that's probably why the Tiki side of the genre is still my favorite. 3. This list could help you more by... I dunno. I just wish some of the people here would knock off this holier-than-thou flaming thing I've been witnessing from time to time. It kills the enjoyment, for me, when I read messages where people are attacking one another. Always makes them seem less intelligent, too. So much information is shared here. That's what it's for. I know, sounds preachy, but there wasn't a question that said "Is there anything that sucks here?" 4. Other exotica/things you collect Nothing, really. 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Almost everything. Reggae, jazz, blues, metal, soukas, calypso, old country, bluegrass, folk, psychedelic, big band, some house and ambient, surf, singer/songwriter... I mean my two favorites of all time are Black Sabbath and Rickie Lee Jones, so you do the math. The best thing about having this kind of musical taste is that I never get bored with music. I just switch genres for a while. 6. What are you just dying to tell us? Larry King was the 2nd gunman on the grassy knoll. And don't act so surprised. 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality I am now going to be forever branded. While I love the warmth of vinyl, I'd rather have a CD because a) I seem to be unable to take proper care of records, and they're all poppy and scratchy as hell within days, and b) I have an addiction and have to get at least a dozen new CDs per week. It's hard enough finding room to keep those. LP's are huge. So I gave away most of my vinyl (went from 1,600 down to about 300 that I couldn't part with) so it would all fit on one shelf. 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassle color? Describe it or other lounge-wear of which you are proud? I look silly in a fez. Well...silly-ER. Deej # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Velvet Brass Date: 11 Oct 1996 14:44:53 -0400 At 11:19 PM 10/10/96 -0600, you wrote: >> There was a question as to whether Jackie Gleason's "Velvet >> Brass" was released in stereo - checked mine - it's in beautiful >> stereo - Capitol SW859. > >Ditto for the original CD release (1987; Capitol CDP 7-48330-2). > >I'll go to the mat with anyone over the incredibly swankitude this album >posesses. Is this disc still available? If so, where can I get it? Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) answer this! Date: 11 Oct 1996 13:58:00 -0500 At 07:52 PM 10/10/96 -0400, you (Lounge Laura) wrote: >1. Are you a musician? Hardly, although I know the piano and can sight read. > Explain... I really can't go into that right now. >2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Hard to say. Seemed I was born liking this. The first record I ever bought was Popcorn by Hot Butter (the single). I really got turned onto it by the Incredibly Strange books and it turned out I already owned a lot of this material (I was by this time a confirmed record collector). >3. This list could help you more by... Giving interesting tidbits of information that no one else has said anything about. People not lamely criticizing individuals for their unprompted opinions (if you don't like it, ignore it. an honest disagreement is great, though... stimulates the discussion and leads to new opinions and ideas). >4. Other exotica/things you collect In general, wacky things like fake fireplaces (with motorized fire), lava lamp, flamingos, almost anything that says "Hawaii" on it (I was born the same year the state was admitted to the union. Why I don't do the same thing with Alaska, I don't know. Guess I don't like the cold). However, I don't do multiples of anything except lawn flamingos. >5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Duke Ellington, Fats Waller, Cab Calloway, Louis Jordan, Slim Gaillard, early R&B, early Nat King Cole, Stan Freberg, classical chamber music, latin jazz, Margie Adam, Neil Diamond (I grew up with him. He has my same vocal range. There is a mystery in some of his lyrics. Why do I feel I need to defend myself?!), all good pianists in any genre. >6. What are you just dying to tell us? Movies. I like 'em all... from the earliest silents to the latest blockbusters. Television: X-files, ST:V, ST:TNG, ST:DS9, Tales of the Gold Monkey, Quark, Police Squad, OKAY ENOUGH ALREADY. I do not watch Friends. > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? Neither. Both. > And why do you? There is a lot of good music on LP not on CD. The cover art and packaging is great on LP, although storage is difficult. CDs are random access and sound good enough for me, except for Neil Diamond's Tap Root Manuscript >Is it a sound quality consideration? I do worry about damaging an LP when I play it. Everytime you cue up an LP, you put a little "tick" in the track. Try it with a virgin LP. Now, add dust, temperature extremes. Its a wonder anything sounds good on LP. But, I manage to filter out that stuff with computer number one. So, if I can get the CD of my faves, I do and I play it. But I keep the LP's to look at. >The aesthetics of LP art? Yes, but I really enjoy the new packaging options that are coming out with CDs. Still, you can't make big art on a CD. >The supposed clarity of CDS? A virgin LP played on a good table, to me, always sounds better than a CD played on the same system. But thats a one time experience. If you take proper care of your CD's, they can be very reliable, unlike the hazards of LP's. > 8. Own a fez? No, but what a great idea. Do they come in extra large (the unfortunate size of my head, but not my ego thank you)? Actually, I am in the market for a smoking jacket. Do I win anything? Byron Caloz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: anita_serwacki@newline.com (ANITA SERWACKI) Subject: Re: (exotica) answer this! Date: 11 Oct 1996 13:46:40 -0400 >>1. Are you a musician? Explain... Played clarinet in band, orchestra and (gasp!) marching band AND the yearly musicals (so "Mr. Holland's Opus" means a little more to me than the rest of yas - oh boy, here come the waterworks...). Still got a clarinet. Get loaded at home and rock out with my "Popular Favorites for the Clarinet" book which includes "Whole Lotta Love" and "Abracadabra". Own various latin percussion instr., incl. multi-guiro and vibraslap. >>2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Bought 3 Suns "Happy Go Lucky Sound" when I was 16 'cause I thought it looked silly, and before I knew it found myself with an 50 lb. monkey on my back called record collecting. Inadvertently used 3 Suns, Yma, Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66, Ventures, Dino, etc. in my loony film projects in school. And everyone thought I was a big friggin geek... >>3. This list could help you more by... bringing in guest stars. Let Vic Damone subscribe for 2 days, and let's see what he's got to say. >>4. Other exotica/things you collect They don't call me "Chotchke" for nothin. >>5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like The only die-hard Roger Miller fan north of Tennessee. >>6. What are you just dying to tell us? I'm Polish-American and proud as hell. Yma Sumac kissed me on the cheek once. I ain't lyin. >>7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality >>consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell >>us more! When you can own 5-10 solid LP's, with minor surface noise, for the price of one CD, HOW could there by any argument? >>8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or >>other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Proud owner of SEVERAL pith helmets, and lemme tell ya, they're pretty exotic, especially when you're playing "Whole Lotta Love" on the clarinet. WOW. I FEEL SOOOO MUCH BETTER NOW. Anita # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: (exotica) Velvet Brass Date: 11 Oct 1996 13:38:26 -0600 (MDT) >>> There was a question as to whether Jackie Gleason's "Velvet >>> Brass" was released in stereo - checked mine - it's in beautiful >>> stereo - Capitol SW859. >> >> Ditto for the original CD release (1987; Capitol CDP 7-48330-2). > > Is this disc still available? The existance of the Razor & Tie reissue says "no". I don't know how the two releases differ, except that I saw the R&T version and didn't like what they'd done with the cover art for some reason. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: (exotica) What is Calypso, Part 3 -- The Big Bamboo Date: 11 Oct 1996 15:59:20 -0400 One can dismiss as the ravings of the latterday calypso-fevered my love for such chestnuts as "Ugly Woman," "The Woman is Smarter," "Zombie Jamboree," "Shame and Scandal," etc. But these STILL are not the underdog, knockout calypsos I champion as being suited for all but the most humor-impaired. The funniest song ever is "The Big Bamboo," at least in its original, Duke of Iron incarnation. What makes it so great today is that is the exact opposite of your electro-pop, all-girrrl, unfunny, can't decide which sex to sleep with (and singing unintelligibly about it), modern band. The Big Bamboo is a nonthreatening song for unrepentent men and the women who admit to liking them; it could be the ultimate song for size queens (or kings); certainly it suits all who just like the bamboo from whatever end they're on. (No comments, please.) Of course, I dig "The Big Bamboo" *merely* for the basic yuks. For research purposes please contact me if you have any version of it. I've transcribed 16+ unique versions so far and have enough material for two distinct versions (two choruses, good and bad lyrics). It is a song to propel any capable band to stardom, no exaggeration. (I accept royalties for repertory consulting.) "Parakeets" is another one to seek. "She was the belle of Trinidad, bc she had, beautiful parakeets." (It's better than that, in toto, performed by the Talbot Brothers or Duke of Iron.) "She's Got Freckles on Her But She is Nice" is one of those songs that doesn't rhyme, e.g., "She sews she pearls she knits, she's a beautiful little blonde." Another is "Bang Bang Lulu," but that's a little too unsubtle even for me. "Tattooed Lady" (aka Talbot Brothers' "She Sits Down on Me") is another timeless ditty involving body parts. "Bloodshot Eyes" is another for the bar crowd. "[I kissed her hand, I kissed her lips, and] I Left Her Behind for You" There are many more such, and don't let my preference for the most juvenile subjects and shameless, sing-along qualities sway you from more serious calypsos. But once you've heard it, you got to admit, "The Big Bamboo" pleases one and all. Tony "it's never too late for shame and scandal" Wilds _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: Re: (exotica) answer this! Date: 11 Oct 1996 15:59:22 -0400 Well, I never. Laura, what will you come up with next? Just for the sake of priming this fine pump applied to the well of lurkers, here are my two scents: >1. Are you a musician? Explain... Victim of early childhood piano lessons and worse; subsequently purged all musical knowledge. Good at arythmic, single-note instruments such as the conch shell (ok, can get 2 notes) and gong. Abstract thereminist, ukulele-ist wannabe. >2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? About 2 years ago I got Lenny Dee's "Golden Organ Favorites" and performance artist "J" speaking the LP version of "How to Become the Sensuous Woman," a 1969 how-to sex book for the repressed housewife. ("J" plays the tuba nude in WFMU's Avante-Garde Showcase video.) Then Jack Taylor --whose mutant, dark shadow I AM, not am in-- turned me on to the Best of Xavier Cugat and Cugat's Dance Party, plus the legendary Twist Goes Latin and more. A fanaticism was born. >3. This list could help you more by... What has just been done seems to work well. I love it. Tolerance of opinion (however off-topic), self-editing, and humor always help [me at least]. >4. Other exotica/things you collect Unique tiki, moai, and "Japanese Version" mugs, cups, and statuary; ukuleles; exotic bric-a-brac; Hawaiiana; art gals in faux fur; fezzin; moist towlettes; molding food; toilet reads; Belgian chocolates; strangers' glares; motor oil... >5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Selected items from the entire 20th-century continuum of weird (Beefheart-esque) and pop/exotic recorded music. SlackMaster Cleve & the Spurious Jive! >6. What are you just dying to tell us? My record collection really is quite undersized. >7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? LP; high numbers get us going too (78, 45, 33). >8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture, and tassel color? The "Bryan Ferry": black velvet w/silver planet patches, silver tassle The "Sofa Safari": black/tan zebra faux fur, black tassle The "Midnight Marauder": deep purple velvet, sparkly silver tassle The "New Traditionalist": irridescent red velvet, basic black tassle [Both a professional hatterer/haberdasherer (and artist/green-haired punk accordionist in Estrojet featured on "Homicide") and Baltimore's best costumer make custom fezzin for a fee ($30-$45).] Tony Wilds _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Karl Engel Subject: Re: (exotica) answer this! Date: 11 Oct 1996 15:58:54 -0400 >1. Are you a musician? Explain... No. The only music I "play" is on my stereo. >2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Easy. Unquestionably Les Baxter's "Ritual of the Savage (Le Sacre du Sauvage)." >3. This list could help you more by... More facts, fewer flames and less philosophizing. Minor examples: Alerting us to the Les Baxter "Lost Episode" CD was very helpful. The follow up with the information on the remastered copy (the differences, etc. with the earlier version) was also very helpful. I could do without the minor flames and debates over the Capitol "Ultra-Lounge" compilations. The "Ultra Lounge" CD's exist and their tracks are such and such, etc. - 'nuff said. >4. Other exotica/things you collect Industrial and educational films of the 50's, 60's and early 70's. Primarily on 16mm film but also on video. >5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Too much to name everything. For starters, less commercial "Progressive Rock" such as the French Magma/Zeuhl scene, the Canterbury scene, etc. >6. What are you just dying to tell us? That in his own way Jackie Chan is brilliant and his movies are worth at least checking out. >7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality >consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell >us more! CDs, due to their clarity, ease of storage, and durability. >8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or >other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Yes, I do. One passion I have is the films of Hal Roach. The worldwide society of Hal Roach fans is "The Sons of the Desert" named after the Laurel and Hardy film. At the 1994 Sons of the Dessert convention held in New York, every attendee was given a red fez with the Sons of the Desert seal on it in yellow with a tassel hanging from it of the same color. The texture? Slightly rough. I don't wear it as it doesn't fit. -Karl Engel cassiel@ix.netcom.com http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/1899 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: FWD>RE>(exotica) answer thi Date: 11 Oct 1996 16:14:24 -0400 Mail*Link(r) SMTP FWD>RE>(exotica) answer this! 1. not a musician, altho i play a mean radio 2. no one particular artist or album 3. this list could help me more by keeping trivial postings (i.e. only "ditto" or "amen" with the text of the original message) to a minimum 4. i collect lps/cds and books. i buy books like some people buy options on real estate-- i may not ever read it, but i buy it in case i decide someday i want to-- books are like records, if u don't buy it when u see it, u may never have the opportunity again 5. i like all forms of music, the stranger the better, except perhaps polka--i especially like the alternative rock group Subsonics (formerly with Worrybird Records, now with GetHip out of Pittsburgh) 6. actually im not dying 2 tell anything. im mainly a lurker, altho i have made a couple of posts where i thought i had something to contribute 7. prefer cds because of durability and because it is a digital technology--i am a digital person living in an analog world. in other words, i like things cut and dried, black or white, on or off, no gray areas...alas life is not like that 8. no fez...id never make a good shriner Laura Taylor wrote: > > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? > 3. This list could help you more by... > 4. Other exotica/things you collect > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality > consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell > us more! > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? > > OK---BE NICE! No flames on #7 because that was a tedious thread! Keep the > flame embers burning to a minimum, too... > Like it's important-but my answers follow tomorrow, as I am now leaving... > Luv, > Lounge Laura > quiz ambassador > laura@wusf.usf.edu > MAKE SURE YOU DON'T REPLY TO ME INDIVIDUALLY---PLEASE DELUGE THE > EXOTICA-LIST!!!!! > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? > # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. > # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: whitley@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Kirsten Whitley) Subject: Re: (exotica) answer this! Date: 11 Oct 1996 15:30:57 -0500 I'm not so much a lurker, as I am someone who lacks spare time :-( > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Nope. But, like so many people on this list, I did DJ for a spell. When on air, I was Miss Julep -- for anyone out there who might have been in listening range (around Nashvegas) when I was doing my lounge show. > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? It doesn't fall into the SA/exotic categories, but still an early important influence: childhood Disney records. More recently, the Danny/Dena Guglielmi album (what is it called... Adventures in Sound, I think) > 3. This list could help you more by... Here's the main reason I'm responding to this survey: the volume is getting out of control on this list. Plus, the signal to noise took a dive earlier this year and has remained down. Seriously -- I went to a week-long conference recently. When I got home, I had over 500 mails, the vaaaaast majority being exotica mail. I value this list highly and, thus, plead for some sanity. My main suggestion: would people please start using the "I'll summarize" style of postings more frequently. When a poster collects answers and then posts the collected responses (with or without an additional summary header), this * spares us from redundant posts * makes it easier to find relevant information from the archives -- ie, the info is collected in one place and has an appropriate subject header. If some list members feel that this would cut down on the neighborly feeling of the list, give it a trial anyhow. For example, you can always post 2 or more rounds of collected responses; this way, people can read and respond to the earlier responses. > 4. Other exotica/things you collect Hawaiian shirts (new or old) -- if anyone has info on good sources, let me know. Anything cool. Due to childhood memories, I really want an aluminum Xmas tree Actually, my collecting is on hold until I get out of grad school. This stuff takes money, ya know. > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Most genres -- I believe that there are excellent members in each genre -- I like finding the best of each and not going all the way into one. However, I haven't made my peace yet with opera. Especially yummy: 50's female vocalists > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? I managed to see Bill Monroe perform shortly before he died. I had been wanting to see him for quite a while (he played every Wednesday at a bar just outside of Nashvegas). I got there just in time! I saw Eartha Kitt perform this past July!!! It was a dream come true! > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality > consideration? The aesthetics fo LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell > us more! Both, for all the usual pros and cons. I'm not fussy. Plus, since I'm a graduate student (= poor) and have been for several years (= very very poor), I go for what I can afford. > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassle color? Describe it or > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? No, but I'd like one. Right now, I'd love to get really colorful western wear -- with the old timey look and _bright_ reds and yellows and fringe even. --Kirsten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tribute@dircon.co.uk (Hugh Petfield) Subject: (exotica) 101 Strings Date: 11 Oct 1996 21:44:24 +0100 Ecstasy! A thrift shop in Huntingdon, UK, today yielded 101 Strings "Gipsy Fire" and "Concerto under the stars" (both circa 1959) and "12 sides by Raymond Lefevre" including "Soul Coaxing". The equivalent of 75cents each. But, your help is needed please! On a 101 Strings CD I have, there's a track called "Manhattan Rhapsody" which is great. Anyone know who the composer is please? I'd like to hear/get more of his/her work. I wonder if it might be part of something called "The Grand Canyon Suite"? Good hunting! Hugh. e-mail from: tribute@dircon.co.uk (Hugh Petfield) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sevo Stille" Subject: Re: (exotica) answer this! Date: 11 Oct 1996 22:48:11 +0100 > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Umm, maybe. Recording artist would be a better description, probably. = Though=20 owning and playing synthesizers for sixteen years, I've always been = interested=20 in creating ambience rather than music. > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Probably none. It is rather a thing of ambience for me - and exotica, = lounge etc.=20 have emotional values which are far more connected to radio, TV = elevators, bars=20 and supermarkets than to records. I bought strange records way before = exotica=20 was a classification - and I guess that the "Waikikis" and similar = German=20 Hawaii-pop bands were the first bona-fide exotica records I owned. > 3. This list could help you more by... ... dropping the flame wars.=20 > 4. Other exotica/things you collect Unsystematically, anything. With some bias towards 3d postcards, stuffed = mammals and obsolete technical equipment. > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Many. I can't even claim that I reject mainstream pop and rock entirely. = My own background as a musician is industrial and electronic avantgarde=20 (as a puzzle: spot the three obscure records I'm credited on), but = lately,=20 I have been hearing quite a lot of drum&bass. And of course, anything=20 strange and ridiculous.=20 > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? What this froup needs is a meeting of sorts! > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound = quality > consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of = CDS? Tell > us more! LPs. Probably because I am oldfashioned, lazy and own lots of them. At = any=20 rate, I still haven't managed to acquire a CD player (apart from the CD = drives=20 of my computers). > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe = it or=20 > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? No dress code for me, thanks! I prefer clothes to be heavy-duty and = useful. Sevo. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Taylor" Subject: (exotica) whoopppppssss/quiz Date: 11 Oct 1996 17:23:19 -0400 Mail*Link(r) SMTP whoopppppssss/quiz SORRY! These aren't my answers, I am outing someone whose last name is Reed and whose bro is in a FAR OUT band and other than that he shall remain anon lounge "quiz queen" laura Mail*Link(r) SMTP FWD>RE>(exotica) answer this! 1. not a musician, altho i play a mean radio 2. no one particular artist or album 3. this list could help me more by keeping trivial postings (i.e. only "ditto" or "amen" with the text of the original message) to a minimum 4. i collect lps/cds and books. i buy books like some people buy options on real estate-- i may not ever read it, but i buy it in case i decide someday i want to-- books are like records, if u don't buy it when u see it, u may never have the opportunity again 5. i like all forms of music, the stranger the better, except perhaps polka--i especially like the alternative rock group Subsonics (formerly with Worrybird Records, now with GetHip out of Pittsburgh) 6. actually im not dying 2 tell anything. im mainly a lurker, altho i have made a couple of posts where i thought i had something to contribute 7. prefer cds because of durability and because it is a digital technology--i am a digital person living in an analog world. in other words, i like things cut and dried, black or white, on or off, no gray areas...alas life is not like that 8. no fez...id never make a good shriner Laura Taylor wrote: > > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? > 3. This list could help you more by... > 4. Other exotica/things you collect > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality > consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell > us more! > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? > > OK---BE NICE! No flames on #7 because that was a tedious thread! Keep the > flame embers burning to a minimum, too... > Like it's important-but my answers follow tomorrow, as I am now leaving... > Luv, > Lounge Laura > quiz ambassador > laura@wusf.usf.edu > MAKE SURE YOU DON'T REPLY TO ME INDIVIDUALLY---PLEASE DELUGE THE > EXOTICA-LIST!!!!! > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? > # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. > # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jenny <2peppers@winternet.com> Subject: Re: (exotica) answer this! Date: 11 Oct 1996 16:40:46 -0500 (CDT) Ok, I'm only a peripheral participant & not trying to be presumptuous- i earned my nickname somewhere else, Jen Nitro - Mpls. >1. Are you a musician? Explain... Do spoons & Jew's Harp count? >2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Well... it was, in truth, probly first triggered by the beginning of Pee-Wee's Playhouse. >3. This list could help you more by... Oh, it couldn't possibly. >4. Other exotica/things you collect Roller Skates & CB equip. from the 70's, metal toys from the 80's (pac-man) (...Love me for the decade whore that I am.) along with your usual assortment of pez machines & all that standard crap. My living room DOES support "Tiki Corner" , a nice comprimise of decor for me + the roommate(who is a fiend for surf rock). >5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Doo-Rag. >6. What are you just dying to tell us? Wouldn't you JUST like to know. > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality >consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell >us more! 8-Track, for it has neither aesthetic value nor sound quality. I like my records scratchy & fuzzy so they sound well-used & well-loved. > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or >other lounge-wear of which you are proud? red, felt, black - pretty standard... I have an ashtray that matches it. Hmmm. Best lounge-wear would have to be (*gasp* surprize!) the black cocktail dresses - 2favorites are the satin and velvet Donna Reed supper club model & the one with a sequin top & sheer pleated cape that flows out the back. I also have a fun new fuschia velvet / metallic fake-fruit party headdress. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@nyc.pipeline.com (lou smith) Subject: (exotica) answer this! Date: 11 Oct 1996 21:54:13 GMT >1. Are you a musician? Not at all. This fact hasn't stopped me from filling the house with all sorts of instruments from a concertina to a Maplin Synth kit I ordered from England 13 years ago. I've only gotten around to soldering 5 circuit boards, but the case is so huge I use it for an end table - not a complete waste of space. >2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Hmm. I guess it was Dad's Command Percussion, Bolero, and French Accordion LPs. That and the Beautiful Music (BM) format of WPAT from Lake Success - oh, those soothing French tones of DJ Charles Duval! That station gave me my first philosophical puzzle: If music=songs, and songs have words, how can you have songs with no words? Thinking about it, it was radio itself more than any specific LP that got me into this: WBAI in the 60's/early 70's; WKCR with David Garland in the 80's; WNYC in the 90's. And, of course, WFMU (if only I could get the signal better). >3. This list could help you more by... Telling me what *not* to spend my money on. Someone's got to do that for me 'cause I can find too many reasons why I *should* spend it all. >4. Other exotica/things you collect Flamingo items from around the world;snowglobes;stereo-opticon cards(!); comics/comix;hot sauces (try Dave's Insanity Hot Sauce). >5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like If it makes a sound I'll listen to it. Currently listening to the 4CD Secret Museum Of Mankind series from Yazoo, Wayno's Homer&Jethro compilation, Balinese/Javanese/Sumatran/Sundanese music,Nusrat,Mission of Burma, Harry Partch,Deep Listening Band. That's what's stacked next to the player here at work. On the twin theories that a) Exotica starts at home, and b)the past is another country, I've been amassing tons of cowboy music (authentic & hollywood) and kiddie records. Nothing is smoother that Bing's 2 Decca cowboy discs, as unexpectedly swinging as the Longinnes Symphonette cowboy LP or as surreal as the Churkendoose or Genie, The Magic Record kiddie 78s. >6. What are you just dying to tell us? A month after I moved into my present apartment, the beams had deflected and the floors had sunk over 1/2" from the weight of my records. Our downstairs neighbors had to move out for 2 weeks while their ceiling was removed and a new I-beam was inserted so as to support my floor. >7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality >consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell >us more! If it spins I'll listen to it. Basically, I figure if the music was recorded in analogue it should be listened to in analogue, and if it was digitally recorded, it should be listened to on CD. To me, it's like the difference between film and video - some stuff works better in one medium than it does in the other. >8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or >other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Don't need one - my cranium is already fez shaped. A few unprotected hours under a tanning lamp for that red shade and I'm good to go. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: (exotica) Explain What ? Date: 11 Oct 1996 14:07:33 -0700 >1. Are you a musician? Explain... Not now. Used to be in Jr High and High school. Multi instrumentalist; Trombone, Trumpet, Violin, Cello, French Horn >2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? None >3. This list could help you more by... Not being so clique-y >4. Other exotica/things you collect 30's-60's Hawaiin abstract print shirts. Prefer rayon BUTcotton is cool too depends on the print. 1940's, 50's moulded plywood chairs, records, 40's-50's rockabilly jackets, accordians, album cover art, 40's-50's abstract print fabrics >5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like 50's west coast jazz, my radio show at KFJC-FM >6. What are you just dying to tell us? nothing >7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? LP. Cause >8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or >other lounge-wear of which you are proud? No fez. I have no lounge wear at all. Not even a fuckin' turtleneck Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@nyc.pipeline.com (lou smith) Subject: (exotica) answer this! Date: 11 Oct 1996 22:29:59 GMT >1. Are you a musician? Not at all. This fact hasn't stopped me from filling the house with all sorts of instruments from a concertina to a Maplin Synth kit I ordered from England 13 years ago. I've only gotten around to soldering 5 circuit boards, but the case is so huge I use it for an end table - not a complete waste of space. >2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Hmm. I guess it was Dad's Command Percussion, Bolero, and French Accordion LPs. That and the Beautiful Music (BM) format of WPAT from Lake Success - oh, those soothing French tones of DJ Charles Duval! That station gave me my first philosophical puzzle: If music=songs, and songs have words, how can you have songs with no words? Thinking about it, it was radio itself more than any specific LP that got me into this: WBAI in the 60's/early 70's; WKCR with David Garland in the 80's; WNYC in the 90's. And, of course, WFMU (if only I could get the signal better). >3. This list could help you more by... Telling me what *not* to spend my money on. Someone's got to do that for me 'cause I can find too many reasons why I *should* spend it all. >4. Other exotica/things you collect Flamingo items from around the world;snowglobes;stereo-opticon cards(!); comics/comix;hot sauces (try Dave's Insanity Hot Sauce). >5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like If it makes a sound I'll listen to it. Currently listening to the 4CD Secret Museum Of Mankind series from Yazoo, Wayno's Homer&Jethro compilation, Balinese/Javanese/Sumatran/Sundanese music,Nusrat,Mission of Burma, Harry Partch,Deep Listening Band. That's what's stacked next to the player here at work. On the twin theories that a) Exotica starts at home, and b)the past is another country, I've been amassing tons of cowboy music (authentic & hollywood) and kiddie records. Nothing is smoother that Bing's 2 Decca cowboy discs, as unexpectedly swinging as the Longinnes Symphonette cowboy LP or as surreal as the Churkendoose or Genie, The Magic Record kiddie 78s. >6. What are you just dying to tell us? A month after I moved into my present apartment, the beams had deflected and the floors had sunk over 1/2" from the weight of my records. Our downstairs neighbors had to move out for 2 weeks while their ceiling was removed and a new I-beam was inserted so as to support my floor. >7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality >consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell >us more! If it spins I'll listen to it. Basically, I figure if the music was recorded in analogue it should be listened to in analogue, and if it was digitally recorded, it should be listened to on CD. To me, it's like the difference between film and video - some stuff works better in one medium than it does in the other. >8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or >other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Don't need one - my cranium is already fez shaped. A few unprotected hours under a tanning lamp for that red shade and I'm good to go. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nytab@nyc.pipeline.com (lou smith) Subject: (exotica) Halloween suggestions? Date: 11 Oct 1996 22:47:03 GMT In no particular order, how 'bout: White Noise: Electric Storm Lucifer: Black Mass (1971) Ruth White: Flowers Of Evil (1969) Fifty Foot Hose (Cauldron) Gary Burton: Genuine Tong Funeral (1968) Pierre Henry: Tibetan Book Of The Dead Sheldon Alman: Dinner With Drac Balinese Kejak (Monkey chant) Amazonian tribal exorcism LPs Medical discs like 'Sounds Of Gastrointestinal Distress' or intrauterine sounds of Mother's heart & lungs. Audio from any Survival Research Lab video Rexino Mondo: Debbie Reynolds/Messenger From Pei (The destruction of Pei sequence) (Does anyone else know/know of this 3.5hour psycho exotica radio dramer?) Judson Fountain's ooo-scary radio play-lets F. Peter Lee: The Nightwatch (1975) Also, that Mancini in Surround Sound CD that came out a few years ago might have some good cuts. I've got the 16 minute promo sampler for it at home - it had a glow-in-the dark This is starting to look like a list of Space Age Satanist Pad Music somehow. skeleton on the CD, but I forget what tracks were on it. Creature from the Black Lagoon?? I don't recall. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dyemund@best.com (Jack Diamond) Subject: (exotica) House of Games Playlist Date: 11 Oct 1996 14:26:21 -0700 KFJC play list 8/4/96 for Jack Diamond's House of Games http://www.kfjc.org ARTIST TRACK ALBUM Planets Chunky Gerry Mulligan Qrt Blues Goin' Up Cal. Concerts Red Mitchell, Jon Eardley (World Pacific) 1956/7 Maurice Anderson (Steel) with Phil Baugh-Lead Riff Raff Esquivel In a Persian Market 4 Corners Doc Bagby Night Train Julie London Hot Toddy(Da Da Da Da, La Vol.2, H.Roberts La La La La De De De Do Do Do) The 3 Suns Russian Sleigh Ride D.D.D.Xmas Earle Hagen New Interns Watusi New Interns Pierro Umiliani You Tried to Warn Me Sweden Heaven (Theme-Drug Treatment) & Hell ;-)> Johnny Gunnnnnnnnnnnnn Voodooooooooooooooooooooo W B, 1960 Gabor Szabo Caravan Jazz Raga Dick Hyman/Mary Mayo Moooooooon Gasssssssssssss Al Caiola!!!! Assignment Munich Lalo Schifrin Once a Thief 65,K.Burrell-Gtr 101 Strings Whiplash!!! (New) Astro Sounds Les Baxter Jungle Montuna Que Mango (Scamp) Art Pepper Pepper Steak(Intro Ilp 608) 1957,1st Pressing Red Norvo Sextet John Zorn's Naked City Sicilian Clan (Morricone) Pete Rugolo Orch. Nervous (Dick Powell Show) Buddy Collette's Larry Bunker-Bongos Tony Tedesco-Gtr Latin All Stars B.Collette-Flute 1958/Crown Balsara Sitar Band These Boots Are Made for Walkin' Gershon Kingsley Trumansburg Whistle Music to Moog By Mel Henke Last Night on the Back Porch W B, 1962 101 Strings Astral Freakout(Astro Original,1968(Scamp) Billy May Orchestra W/ Sam Hoffman-Theremin 1948/Capitol 10" This Room Is My Castle Of Quiet ;-/> Tom Scott & the Calif. (1st Lp, 19 Years Old) Impulse Dreamers Honeysuckle Breeze Richard Hayman's Windmills of Your Mind Command Genuine Electric Latin Love Machine 5 Stars!!!!! Marty Manning's The Twilight Zone 1960 Howard Roberts Qrt. Days of Wine & Roses Mancini, 63 Martin Denny(Moog) Delilah(Tom Jones) Liberty,Last Lp Martin Denny(Moog) Let Go Tony From Redwood City wins Que Mango Kenyon Hopkins Ghost Baby Doll Sir Adrian Boult Neptune, the Mystic 1956 Gregg Oliver and Billy Rogers-Composition Seduction Lois Cooper-Sp Word Del Staton-Guitar 1961 Shelly Manne and Russ Freeman,Herb Geller The Floater His Men, Conte Candoli Victor Feldman Mancini's P. Gunn Benny Golson Golden Glow Barry, John Big Fella Emi Years Vol.1, Jud Conlon's Dobie Gillis Theme Late 50'S-Early Rhythm-Aires 60'S 101 Strings Instant Nirvana Sounds of Today Vinnie Bell Whistle Stop The Hellers It's 74 in San Francisco Command The Hellers And Now the News Chico Hamilton Qnt Sidneys Theme(Jazz Themes) Sweet Smell of Jonalah Success Pete Rugolo Diamond on the Move 58/Emarcy KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 http://www.kfjc/org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: soundbliss9@earthlink.net Subject: (exotica) Heino horror Date: 11 Oct 1996 17:21:27 -0600 Message-ID: <325D98C8.3C88@earthlink.net> Reply-To: soundbliss9@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My perverse fantasy for about five years now is to make a short film called "Night of the Living Heinos" where, instead of the living dead, we see countless Heinos chanting"Ja Ja Ja" descending upon the poor victims. Other great Halloween music: Creed Taylor Orchestra: "Panic: Son Of Shock" soundbliss9@earthlink.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray_Coffey@hmco.com Subject: (exotica) answer this or listen to Kenny G! Date: 11 Oct 1996 20:55:50 EDT > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... No ma'am. (My apologies if you prefer Miss, Lounge Laura) Cain't say that I am. I can strum a few chords on a guitar and I've got a good ear. I can mimic music. > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Perrey & Kingsley Kaleidoscopic Vibrations during high school in the early 80's It sure beat drugs when listened to on headphones. It was a discard at a college radio station. Then Ventures records came into my life, and soon Martin Denny, etc. but I ignored him until recently. My brother reminded me... He's the Denny-head. > 3. This list could help you more by... continuing with Bleeker Bob anecdotes! >:>o > 4. Other exotica/things you collect Some old radios, toys, clocks... interesting older crap. Is there an Exotica Barbie and/or Ken doll available yet? Which previous Barbie could be reissued for that? I'd enjoy seeing a Ken with fez and martini glass. Barbie can do album covers for all I care. > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Indian film music - on the radio in Boston- (IS that unrelated, they import western sounds for their pop) surf, punk, older country, some electronic. > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? If my friend Jackie dies, I get her Trader Vic's (sp?) cocktail book AND the other circa 1948 (or so) cocktail recipe book. (Laura, she lives in Tallahassee BTW... I'll bring the glasses and ice for the wake.) > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? LP - due to cost and availability > Is it a sound quality consideration? Only a little. But if I hear a song I really like, scratches and hiss are really not a bother. Ever hear live music without annoying ambient noise? Even at the symphony, someone's coughing. Does that ruin the music? I suppose for some people it does. Hell, I listen to stuff while I rustle the newspaper. So what? Clean sound is preferable, but is of little import to my indiscriminate ear. > The aesthetics of LP art? Do you ever find a CD that smells like a mildewed basement? That's because even simple mildew finds CDs to be a barren environment. I wouldn't wanna live there either. Even the physical format has more warmth. Do I *enjoy* mildewed LPs? Well, maybe a little too much. And LPs do get awfully heavy in large numbers. No, I listen to both but prefer the lower cost of (used) LPs, the aesthetics of the larger scale art, and the nostalgia factor plays a part too. It is damn nice to punch in the track numbers of a CD and not have to clean it each time. And yes, I can bring them to work for the computer to also enjoy. But as a cheapskate looking for cheapskate thrills, the LP is best. > The supposed clarity of CDs? Yes it's good. But I'm going deaf. I too seem to enjoy the "warmth" of vinyl. A CD is wonderfully clear, but at the same cost, I could take a chance on 10 scratchy records (not on nor never to be on CD) instead. CD reissues are great. But it is easier to gamble on the nickel slots (LPs) The payoff may not be great, but you can do it for a much longer time. > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? No fez - no smoking jacket - no service, is that it? Worse, I can't even wrap a turban properly, and my sombrero gets stuck in doorways. > Describe it or other lounge-wear of which you are proud? A lovely yellow "camouflage" print jacket from Lord and Taylor The camouflage (I can't quite describe it otherwise) is very subtly printed in two or three slightly different shades. Narrow lapels... It seems hideous at first (its inital attraction for me) but it turns out to be quite attractive. That reminds me... there is that fab swept wing jet aircraft tie tack at that store... Ray (the quiet creepy guy at the table in the back corner) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: action+@sirius.com (Ursula Blind) Subject: Re: (exotica) answer this! Date: 11 Oct 1996 18:11:33 -0800 Another nice, shy, polite lurker checking in...actually I just signed up recently and haven't had anything in particular to say yet. But quizzes are my weakness ("are you a pathetic drip? Take this helpful quiz and find out!"). So: >1. Are you a musician? Explain... Afraid so...I'm one of the culprits behind a newish San Francisco band called Action Plus. I write about half the material, sing, & play the Electrofragmentizer. My main partner is guitarist Joe Gore, who has played/recorded with Tom Waits & PJ Harvey among others. To continue with the annoying self-hype: we refer to our sound as "heavy listening/transistor noir/bad-mood music." it has also been described as "goth-lounge grooves by the twisted kin of Josie & the Pussycats." Personally, I think it's more pop than lounge or exotica. We've just finished baking a self-produced CD (sorry but we're not LP-ists) and are playing a fair amount around the San Francisco area, with a field trip to Spaceland in LA scheduled for early November. If anyone wants to hear what we're all about, drop me an email and I'll send you a cassette--BUT you have to promise to let me know what you think, even if you hate it. >2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Been into this stuff for longer than I can remember--but the moment of true divine revelation was finding and listening to "East of India" by the Werner Muller Orchestra. (Anyone know more about him, BTW?) >3. This list could help you more by... No complaints so far. >4. Other exotica/things you collect Not much of a collector, but I'm currently addicted to Hong Kong supernatural films. It's not so much the Jackie Chan stuff; more like hopping vampires and flying witch heads chased by miniature helecopters. My cats collect toys; does that count? >5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Some of my current favorite bands are Sukia and Laika; also into Cibo Matto. I will listen to anything Mitchell Froom & Tchad Blake have deigned to touch. Also like early music, late-Romantic French stuff, some but not all trip-hop, the usual soundtrack composers (Morricone, Mancini, Barry, etc.) ditzy new wave from my misspent youth, swing and latin music from the 40s-50s. >6. What are you just dying to tell us? Um, I already did in #1.... > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality >consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell >us more! They're different things, really, aren't they? > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or >other lounge-wear of which you are proud? I've fondled the fezzes of others, but have never committed to one of my own. However, I do have a big black & red floppy couture hat from the mid-50's that Audrey Hepburn would have challenged me to a girl-fight to get her hands on. Finally, I have to say THANKS to Lounge Laura for providing such a fun & ingenious way to get some of us out of the woodwork. I've really been enjoying reading everyone's quirky and atypical responses! Ursula Blind action+@sirius.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: basic hip Subject: (exotica) answer this! Date: 11 Oct 1996 18:11:27 -0700 I'm a nice, shy person with nothing clever or witty to say...you've been warned... 1. Are you a musician? Explain... No, I am not a musician. 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? While living in Palo Alto and listening to KFJC, rock instros and surf, I discovered Jack Diamond's show. 3. This list could help you more by... It is really fine the way it is. 4. Other exotica/things you collect Nutty Mads, Johnny West and Corgi toys 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Jazz and blues and rock 6. What are you just dying to tell us? well, nothing really... 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell us more! I like LP's way more. So much good shit is not available on a CD. And I do not understand statements like this: "I do worry about damaging an LP when I play it. Everytime you cue up an LP, you put a little "tick" in the track. Try it with a virgin LP. Now, add dust, temperature extremes. Its a wonder anything sounds good on LP". I've never found any of my many LP's from the fifties to be so fragile and delicate that I dare not play them. 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or other lounge-wear of which you are proud? No, I don't have a fez. I'm into record collecting for the music, period. I don't drink or dress up and go to "lounge" shows. And this cigar thing is really silly. My lounge wear is jeans and a tee shirt. Told ya! Ford "it's hip to be square" Ford # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Indulis R. Rutks" Subject: RE: (exotica) answer this! Date: 11 Oct 1996 21:30:48 >1. Are you a musician? Explain... No, although I did take a class called "Beginning Piano For Non-Music Majors" while in college many years ago (I got an A - damn, I played a mean version of "Hot Cross Buns"). >2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? "Incredibly Strange Music" (CD's and books) clued me in that there was a name for "that kind" of music. However, I guess I've enjoyed the music since I was a kid in the 1960's (Herb Alpert, "popcorn" by Hot butter, Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66). And, of course, a childhood spent watching 60's and 70's TV (The Man From U.N.C.L.E., Lawrence Welk, Dean Martin & the Golddiggers) helped stoke the interest. >3. This list could help you more by... Since I am fairly new to this list, I haven't any complaints yet. I am amazed at the musical knowledge that is displayed here! Nothing seems to be too obscure for this group. Keep it up!! >4. Other exotica/things you collect I used to go to a lot of record collectors shows, and I would buy oddball stuff, mostly records by TV and movie personalities (Shatner's "Transformed Man", Ken "Festus" Curtis, Tony Randall, Mitchum's "Calypso..."), or "bad" music (Johnathan & Darlene Edwards, Mrs. Miller, Guckenheimer Sour Kraut Band). I actually *enjoy* listening to that stuff! >5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Where do I start? Where do I finish? Beatles, Ramones, Spike Jones & his City Slickers, Cramps, Cars, Bowie, Offspring, Foo Fighters, Jerry Colonna, Mickey Katz, Screaming Jay Hawkins, Delbert McClinton, Hoosier Hotshots, Mel Brooks soundtracks, Bangles, Go Go's, Monkees, Dave Edmunds, Bonzos, Roseanne Cash, Devo, Van Morrison. O.K., I'll stop now. I feel dizzy. >6. What are you just dying to tell us? It's kinda scary, but I've really become a big fan of pro wrestling again. Please don't hate me. > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality >consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? >Tell us more! I own a lot of both. CD's are more convenient (don't have to flip 'em every 15-20 minutes, you can listen to them in a car or on a boombox), but there are LP's that you know are never gonna see the light of day in CD form ("The Uncle Floyd Show", Charlie Weaver "Sings For His People", the Co*Star series ["You act scenes opposite Vincent Price"!]) that you just gotta have. > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it > or other lounge-wear of which you are proud? No fez, no lounge-wear, no pride. Hey, this was fun! Be gentle with me. - Indy Rutks (rutk0002@maroon.tc.umn.edu) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Halloween suggestions? (Mancini) Date: 11 Oct 1996 22:31:08 +0000 Mancini's Monster Hits : Very Cool .It has a glow in the dark skull on the cover. Song Titles are : 1: The Monster Gets Mark (from Creature from the Black Lagoon) 2. The Thing Strikes (from It Came From Outer Space) 3. Main Title from Nightwing 4. Surround Fantastique -- Jason The Pygmy Taxi Corp http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ Vocod'o'rama http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocolist.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cbennet0@counsel.com (Caressa Bennet -- Bennet ^ Bennet PLLC - Washington ) Subject: (exotica) who am i? Date: 12 Oct 1996 00:11:34 EDT To: exotica, Inet Okay, Laura, the combination of living through NPR's pledge week and seeing all the responses to your questions has guilted me into delurking for a moment (actually I post a reasonable amount, but t'aint nothing compared to you regulars). So here goes: 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Well I do play guitar in a 60's garage meets 90's indiepop band called the Dupont Circles, but referring to me as a musician would be extremely charitable. 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? It's been a life long continuum, undoubtedly starting with repeated plays of my parent's Enoch Light album (Provocative Percussion) when I was a kid. I always had a love for unclassifiable "groovy" music found in tv and movies ranging from surf and 60's garage tunes used in 60's cartoons and sitcoms to soundtrack stuff like Danger: Diabolik and Vampyros Lesbos (though I probably never heard it as a kid -- this was pre-cable -- it was definitely the type of stuff I was digging). I've always collected guitar oriented vinyl, but it wasn't until the release of the first Esquivel CD, and the subsequent torrent of exotica releases on CD that I caught up with the entire variety of great stuff discussed on this list. 3. This list could help you more by... Creating a search feature to use on old versions of the digest. I often find remember something being discussed on the list, and then, prompted by a sighting in a store or further musical evolution, find I'd like to reread some of the old posts. We have a great musical resource here if we can create some user friendly archives. 4. Other exotica/things you collect Nothing that I collect in a serious way, but I tend to accumulate all sorts of strange toys and knickknacks. I imagine similar items fill the homes of many list members. f5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Just about everything. My true loves are 60's punk/garage, merseybeat, 70's punk and postpunk and any type of melodic rock and roll (everything from the Flaming Groovies to the Fire Engines to Stereolab to the Prisoners to the Apples in Stereo to....well you get the idea). I'm also into classic bop, blues, dub, contemporary classical and hardcore country. 6. What are you just dying to tell us? Nothing really, but this does give me an excuse to pose a few questions: (1) Does anyone know who did the music for the beat combo scenes in the old Charlie Brown cartoons? (2) Does anyone know where to buy those little adapters for big hole 45s (the permanent kind, not the little yellow things that I always forget to remove from the record)? (3) How do people catalog their collections for insurance purposes (something I've been postponing for ages)? 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell us more! Although vinyl was my first love, I must blushingly admit that I've become a CD convert, primarily because of convenience. With two young children to chase around, I'm addicted to the ability to play 5 hours of continous music which (with wireless speakers) can be heard anywhere around the house. 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Fraid not, but I would proudly wear one if I owned one. I do own a Moroccan jalloba (sp?) which I don on important ceremonial occasions. thanks for your many helpful responses to my inquiries over the last year and a half, and for indulging my ramblings here. michael bennet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pea Hicks Subject: (exotica) Quiz... Date: 11 Oct 1996 23:17:12 -0700 Laura- sorry for accidently sending this to you! > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Yeah... I do lots of hack-and-not-so-hack music professionally. Lots of theater music. I write/perform music for a circus here in San Diego (I get to do lots of evil dissonant music- in that context, everything works!!) I also have an ongoing gig doing modernized techno remakes of Bollywood pop songs from the 70's. Besides that I play in a variety of bands- Optiganally Yours, Physics, Tit Wrench, Fantasy Mission Force, etc... Also I just finished writing 3 pieces for pipe organ and percussion, for which I recieved a commission, and I'm starting work on a chamber opera. Blah blah blah... > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Ummm... in the early 80's this old lady down the street gave us a whole stack of Moog-related records she had in her garage. I liked Gil Trythall's "Switched On Nashville" the best. Other than that, I found some Esquivel album in my parent's records several years ago. I really got into those, and was surprised to suddenly see him become so popular. Like many of you, I didn't realize this was a "scene" until the RE/Search books. Other faves include "Adventure In Sound" by Danny Guglielmi & Dena, most Enoch Light (I used to go dumpster diving at Rhino Records and I scored lots of good EL stuff there- "Permissive Polyphonics" is a favorite!) etc etc Does anyone else have any records by a guy called Lincoln Chase? > 3. This list could help you more by... Cutting down on all the cliche cocktail-culture references :) I don't mean to be mean, but everybody just seems to need to be oh-so-hip all the time. Then again, it's no skin off my back, really- live and let live... > 4. Other exotica/things you collect OPTIGANS!!! (See my homepage below) Also Hawaiian shirts, although I'm not picky- just anything colorful. I'm mostly into them because they're comfortable. I also collect ANY cover versions of Wichita Lineman and anything by Claudine Longet. I figure, she didn't put out that much, so I actually stand half a chance of owning a complete collection. I also collect obscure folktales from the Southern California Deserts. > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like I grew up on synthpop- I still love it. But I only collect Soft Cell and Alphaville in a serious way. Other than that- anything goes. I'm a big Stravinsky fan and also anything "minimalistic." When I heard Philip Glass's "Einstein On The Beach" for the first time, that was it. > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? You know that mysterious "bubble gum" flavor?? (ie pink bubble gum- Bazooka Joe flavor). I think I figured out exactly what that is. If anyone has any guesses, post them- then I'll post my theory later. > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? I like them both equally. I think that debate is one of the most pointless and boring topics period. > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or other lounge-wear of which you are proud? No fezzes... just all those Hawaiian shirts. --->Pea Hicks -- <---Realm 'O' The Optigan---> http://pegasus.adnc.com/~websites/experiment/optigan/intro.html Who will be the next to brave the *perils* of the VIRTUAL OPTIGAN??!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tribute@dircon.co.uk (Hugh Petfield) Subject: (exotica) answer this! Date: 12 Oct 1996 07:46:44 +0100 Ok Laura (I like the sound of the Mary Tyler Moore hair and the Capris if not the canine companion!) you enquired.... >1. Are you a musician? Explain... Not by trade, but I've played guitar/bass/keyboards/ukelele-banjo.. Only public performance was doing "Wipeout" on guitar a la Nokie Edwards one evening in a bar in Ireland. I'd like to try Hawaiian/Steel guitar in the style of Santo & Johnny >2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Bernstein's "Johnny Staccato" >3. This list could help you more by... ..sometimes a bit more description could be useful, e.g. who or what is Combustible Edison/Korla Pandit/etc.? It would be nice to know approx. where the sender is e.g. USA/FL, if it's not obvious from your ISP. >4. Other exotica/things you collect Street maps: always interesting, sometimes useful... >5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Lonnie Mack >6. What are you just dying to tell us? In 1963 I was a member of the Cavern Club in Liverpool, at the time probably the most hip place in the galaxy. > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality >consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell >us more! To my old and jaded ears, CD's sound better but the tiny sleeve notes are a pain, so I still like browsing vinyl. > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or >other lounge-wear of which you are proud? I like the idea of lounge-wear but the fez has a particular connotation here so it's a no-no for serious use. If I were a more social animal, I'd like to get a black shiny smoking jacket and cultivate a Sydney Greenstreet appearance. Didn't he wear a fez in Casablanca, tho'? Hmmm. HP. e-mail from: tribute@dircon.co.uk (Hugh Petfield) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peterp@inch.com (Peter Principle) Subject: (exotica) a few more Halloween suggestions Date: 12 Oct 1996 12:31:06 -0400 A couple of great OST titles not mentioned yet, both featuring the exquisite theremin work of Dr. Samuel Hoffman are: Rocketship X-M OST by Ferde Grofe 1950 My copy is on Starlog SR-1000 but this might be a reissue of some sort (1977). Fabulous theremin themes with orchestra and also a theremin solo piece. The Lost Weekend 1945 one of the other scores besides Spellbound by Miklos Rozsa that features great theremin parts. My copy is Tony Thomas Records TT-MR-2. Also a great series of moody things often with theremin themes and even a few twists thrown in for good measure are the 4 volumes of Dark Shadows scores from the 60's TV show, music by Robert Colbert released in the mid 80's on Media Sound Records (now that I think of it there are many TV records with more great theremin playing that would have fit in this post... 5 Volumes of Twilight Zone on Varese Sarabande, One Step Beyond on Decca oi I gotta quit rereading my posts before sending em I'm running out of time here... ) Another couple of interesting things are: The Tell Tale Heart, Anna Bell Lee and Silence by Edgar Allen Poe read by James Mason with organ accompaniment by Buddy Cole on Decca DL9062 B-side is Sorry Wrong Number with Agnes Moorehead and supporting cast. This is probably a reissue of 2 10" rex Chapelles Des Morts, Music From Your Darkest Dreams - John Rose organ, and Robert Edward Smith harpsichord whcih is really a bunch of romantic era classical pieces some written for organ and others transcribed by the artists all recorded in a very moody environment and with folies from Hamer or somewhere mixed in ie chains dragging... footsteps and doors creaking all brilliantly scored with the orignal pieces. Towerhill T-1007 (1981) A few novelty items would be: of course Napoleon the XIV, but how about the residue from the short lived careers of imitators like Henry the IX Don't Take Me Back Oh No on Showcase 9810 (45rpm) and The Emperor I'm Normal on Current 111 (45rpm) both recently (1994) regurgittated on Teenage Rebellion Volume 12 "Dememted" on Way Back MMLP 66014 and finally of course the fine Boris Pickett and the Crypt Kickers Monster Mash GPX57001 has been mentioned, but how about his imitator and local NYC FM DJ of the late 60's (by then he was way psychedelic) but earlier in his career he hosted a local horror movie show on the tele and he made a cover of Monster Mash and an LP full of macabre twist called MM featuring JZ Wyncote W9050 Songs include Hurry Bury Baby, Weird Watusy, Gravy With Some Cyanide. Song credits are shared by Barry Mann! For those of you with samplers and a bad sense of taste/humour there are 2 remarkable LPs on RCA red seal called The Quick and the Dead Volume 1 The Story of the Atom Bomb RCA LM1129 and Volume 2 The Story of the Hydrogen Bomb RCA LM1130 Taken from an NBC News production 1950 both feature the droll voice of Fred Friendly and the dry quips of Bob Hope (you can just imagine the macabre 1 liners...) edited between are spooks from the Atomic Energy Commission etc. Nuff Said! Happy Hallows Eve Peter Principle # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: (exotica) Treasures Date: 12 Oct 1996 13:20:20 -0400 I just got the Betty Page Danger Girl crime jazz comp (German import). Pretty fabulous, so far, and the Betty Page tie-in seems to be bought and paid for. Also, used, Tommy Morgan, Tropicale (with orchestra conducted by Warren Barker) -- harmonica exotica, Warner Bros. Record's 1958. "While serving a long engagement with Uncle Sam's Air Force Band, Morgan played several other Command Performances, incuding the King and Queen of Cambodia, the Shah and Empress of Iran; and for Syngman Rhee, President of the Republic of Korea. For his outstanding work as a musical ambassador in these countries, Mr. Morgan's name has been entered in the Congressional Record." Yup, that's what it says. Will Will Straw Associate Professor and Acting Director, Graduate Program in Communications/ Director, The Centre for Research on Canadian Cultural Industries and Institutions McGill University 3465 rue Peel, Montreal, Quebec H3A 1W7 Phone: (514) 398 7667; Fax: (514) 398 4934 http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/crccii/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.devis@ping.be (Johan Dada Vis) Subject: (exotica) source for deleted CD's (vinyl too) Date: 12 Oct 1996 19:31:02 +0100 "http://www.musikweb.com" I found Ferrante & Teicher, Mandingo, lots of jazz and more... = Johan |)/\|)/\ Vis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: " / dave / " Subject: Re: (exotica) Treasures Date: 12 Oct 1996 12:36:39 -0500 (CDT) Will Straw writes: > Also, used, Tommy Morgan, Tropicale (with orchestra conducted by > Warren Barker) -- harmonica exotica, Warner Bros. Record's 1958. > > "While serving a long engagement with Uncle Sam's Air Force Band, > Morgan played several other Command Performances, incuding the > King and Queen of Cambodia, the Shah and Empress of Iran; and for > Syngman Rhee, President of the Republic of Korea. For his outstanding > work as a musical ambassador in these countries, Mr. Morgan's name > has been entered in the Congressional Record." I sense the beginning of another thread: "Exotica artists who also worked for the CIA" :) dave -----------------( (---------------------- f n a s t ! -------) )-- arouet@winternet.com ----------------( (----------------------- "de-contextualization is nothing to sneeze at" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pea Hicks Subject: (exotica) Halloween? Date: 12 Oct 1996 10:51:25 -0700 Just one record for my 2 cents worth on the Halloween thing: "A Musical Seance" by Rosemary Brown. The music isn't too terribly creepy, really, but the concept sure is. An old lady begins "channeling" piano music from dead composers like Beethoven, Debussy, Brahms etc and they put out an album of it. It sounds pretty damn hokey, but if you believe the liner notes (ie she had almost no prior musical training before receiving and transcribing these pieces) it's pretty convincing. I played it for some of my music profs in college and even they were impressed. At any rate- anyone else know anything about this and what even became of Rosemary Brown? Pea Hicks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark A. Rosati" Subject: Re: (exotica) answer this! Date: 12 Oct 1996 14:17:02 -0400 ---------- I don't really think of myself as a lurker, at least I think I'm not sure. It's just a lot of the time (or is it most of the time) I really can't think of anything to say... > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... ... I'm not sure if I am, I mean, I might be?... > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? ...I don't think I'm really sure what all that really is... > 3. This list could help you more by... ... uh, could you give me an example?... > 4. Other exotica/things you collect ...I'd have to look around and see what I have... > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like ... I don't think I follow that question?... > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? ...?... > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality > consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell us more! ...can I get back to you about that, I'd have to think about it... > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? ...I think I have some cool pajamas, I use to lounge in them once in a while. Well, thanks so very much for letting me get all that of my chest. And now that you all know where I stand, I feel that I can be an active member of this list and start posting all of my thoughts, who knows, maybe a few dozen posts a day Feeling Lighter, Mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Burning Petals Music Subject: Re: (exotica) Leopard skin CD Date: 12 Oct 1996 20:12:26 +0100 On 10 Oct 1996 10:31:40 -0400, Laura Taylor wrote: << In the oh-so-humble opinion of Lounge Laura(like it matters)-THE BLUES AND THE BEAT is one of the all-time Mancini greats. period. Buy it or suffer regret for the rest of your life here and in the spiritual world. I *mean it,* man... >> Well I bought it, and it's pretty good although not the best Mancini by a long shot IMHO. Anyway, on my (Spanish) pressing it has the original artwork & notes but no indication of composers; so which of the tracks are not covers, ie Mancini compositions ?? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: soundbliss9@earthlink.net Subject: (exotica) Answer this! Date: 12 Oct 1996 15:27:26 -0600 1. Are you a musician? Excplain... Yes; I have been a musician for over 20 years; I play piano, organ, guitar, clarinet, tenor saxophone and the Russian balialaika 2. Space age/exotica LP that turned you on to this... I am 27 years old. My grandfather used to work for Philo and White Westinghouse in the 1940s and 1950s, so he had a lot of test demonstration records. I remember being amazed by his copy of Enoch Light's 'Big Bold and Brassy" from an early age, and, having his own bar in his basement in Euclid, Ohio, it was, to say the least, a big thrill to hear these records, with the red light, cool liquor bottles and "exotic" glassware all around. I remember it quite clearly.... 3. This list could you me more by... Telling me where I can find a vinyl mint copy of 'Primitiva" and 'Ritual of the Savage" for a buck. Just kidding. This list is fantastic; exhaustive at times. :-) 4. Other exotica stuff I collect... 1940s and 1950s ties with a theme; especially western ties. I also love vintage tiki stuff. 5. Unrelated music acts and genres I like.... I love rockabilly and surf. I'm going to see a fantastic rockabilliy act I love (The Paladins) for the fifth time this Monday. I love the Beatles and the Kinks and English pop in that vein... bands such as the Comsat Angels, the Sound, the Chameleons. Some other bands which I love: the Naughty Ones, Tiki Tones; Impala; good trash 60s-style such as the Makers; the Stooges; jazz such as Illinois Jacquet and Earl Bostic (great teno sax players); Flat Duo Jets; Beck; Dick Dale (a friend of mine); other esoteric genres such Nurse With Wound and Delerium. 6. preferred genre CD or LP? Both; it depends on the artist. Heck, I double up on a lot of them. 7. Own a fez? No, but I do have a few killer 1950s exotic ties most would kill for. Oh; and a few vintage repro Hawaiian shirts I get countless questions about. soundbliss9@earthlink.nets # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Karl Engel Subject: (exotica) Les Baxter CD: Cry of the Banshee/E.A. Poe Suite Date: 12 Oct 1996 17:43:11 -0400 Just picked up a CD of Les Baxter's movie scores, "Cry of the Banshee" and "Edgar Allan Poe Suite" paired with John Cacavas's "Horror Express." Very nice "20 bit digital transfer" indeed and a wonderful upgrade from the weak cassette that I had of the Baxter material. The CD claims to be ADD and certainly sounds that way. Also nice is that the CD booklet has some liner notes written by Baxter presumably from the original LP which I have never laid eyes on. There is also a little bio on Baxter written after his death earlier this year. I think that this info has been posted here before, but for those he missed it the first time around it is on the Citadel label. Catalog# STC 7107. -KE cassiel@ix.netcom.com http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/1899 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: (exotica) Re: answer this! Date: 12 Oct 1996 22:43:41 +0000 On 10 Oct Laura teased and tormented us all with some questions (nice move!): I'm an occasional lurker on this list - though I do try to make my presence known from time to time! Here are my 100 lines Ms Taylor... > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Yay! I play bongos (like, *crazy* man...) and in fact any other kind of percussion I can slap my hands on (perhaps that's why I like this music so much!) - currently playing in a "world music" band here in Edinburgh - not very exotic but fun nevertheless! I also like to strum a big of guitar, play a bit of bass and tinkle the ivories demonically on my new Selmer Internationale electric organ (split keyboards and foot pedals!)! Mostly with these instruments I like to improvise and just make strange music - maybe one day I'll record some! > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? I've come on quite an long and interesting musical journey since I arrived on this planet in the mid 60s (see below)... I guess the sapce-age seed was planted way way back in the early 70s with my parents tweaking my formative mind with things like Perrey & Kingsley - "Kaleidoscopic Variations", Perrey's "Moog Indigo" (both of which I remember being quite terrified of!), Tony Mottola's "Guitar Factory" and Enoch Light's "Spaced Out". More recently, this was all rekindled by a strange coming together of various influences - Dave Lofquist introducing me to Baxter & Denny (and this mailing list!) with a luscious comp tape, my flat-mate introducing me to Man or Astroman and surf guitar bands in general, Tarantino's movie soundtracks, the use of Prado's "Guaglione" on a TV ad, the Incredibly Strange Music books and subsequent charity shop raids... > 3. This list could help you more by... Remaining the same?! Less (ie: no) flame wars... More generally in the "genre" I think I would like to see less "mythologising" of particular LPs. Yesterday I picked up the CD of Schory's "Bang Baaroom and Harp" and while I quite like it, IMHO it certainly didn't live up to its high reputation - I have many LPs I would rate higher in my top 10 and can't really understand why anyone would pay 50 bucks plus for it! Same goes for the "Music out of the Moon/Peace of Mind/Perfume" - again it's *OK* but I wouldn't say it was earth-shatteringly great... It seems to me that, largely due to the Increadibly Strange Music books, certain LPs have acquired a near mythical status which in many cases is probably unjustified... > 4. Other exotica/things you collect I don't really collect things per se but I run a club here in Edinburgh (Space Safari) with DJ Mingo-go and I collect "space age" things for that - old annuals (Man from UNCLE, Jonny Quest, Daktari), comic books (Look and Learn) old science books, Viewmasters, games, lamps, drapes etc etc... > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like As I mentioned above, I've been on a bit of a musical journey through virtually every genre there is (except opera and country and western!) - most recent area of exploration and enjoyment has been folk/world/roots music. Current listening fave in this genre is Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan/Michael Brook's - Night Songs. And of the many thousands of LPs I've heard oveer the last couple of decades, the one which consistently remains near the top is Zakir Hussain's "Making Music". But actually, having gotten fully immersed into Exotica/SABPM over the last year or so, I do find it hard now to take *any* other music seriously! I think this is mainly due to the fact that most musicians seem to take *themselves* so seriously... > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? How amazing the last few months have been, meeting and hanging out with Dick Hyman, chatting with Tony Mottola on the phone, written conversations with Enoch Light's daughters (and grandson!)... and hopefully more excitement in the pipeline! > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDS? Tell us more! I prefer vinyl but my CD collection is mushrooming - if that's the only format I'm going to get something on, I'm not going to let that stop me! Cover art is definitely one of the main appeals but it often beautifies a hideous monstrosity and I generally try to for artists/titles/session musicians/tunes etc over the cover art. > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Er... no! Should I?! I have some fairly hideous gear I wear for Space Safari and in my guise as "experimental guitarist" I have been known to wear wallpaper, tin foil, lampshapes, a dress or curtains on stage... Will that do? Robbie Spaced Out - the Enoch Light WWW Site *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** http://www.cybersurf.co.uk/rcb/light/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kpundit@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Answer this! Date: 12 Oct 1996 18:54:56 -0400 1. Are you a musician? Explain... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TothMD@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Pop culture vultures/the psychology of "collecting" Date: 12 Oct 1996 18:55:29 -0400 (was Re: Comics (was More on condition)) nytab@nyc.pipeline.com (lou smith) wrote: >I've noticed that there's some overlap between comic collectors >and vinyl collectors. (Why is that, I wonder?) I think it's just people with a *collecting* mentality. I'd imagine most people on this list are, like me, enthralled with pop culture in general: TV, movies, books, magazines, weird toys, curios and antiques, and who knows what all else, AND recorded music. I was fascinated with records as a kid (members of my family insist I learned how to read, in part, from *record labels*) -- at age 3 or 4, EVERY record was cool. The life-changing experience for me was during my mid-teens I started to understand the meaning and implications of "out of print," and realizing that if you don't grab and stockpile the things you care about, you may never get to experience/re-experience them. I knew comic books were only on sale for a month, but it wasn't until I grew older that it sunk in with media in general. The precise experience, that may offer some insight into collecting psychology: in high school, I REALLY got hooked on this obscure, wonderfully weird Christian new wave band Daniel Amos, whose "Rocket Packs" and "Incredible Shrinking Man" were getting some airplay on a local college station. I eventually got the album from which they came, Vox Humana, on *cassette* -- I was suspicious of vinyl since so much left over from my childhood was worn and noisy, and my parents' stereo had flat sound. I had to find EVERYTHING this band did, which criminally was released through Gospel distribution modes, therefore ignored by regular record stores but too wild for most traditional Christian outlets to stock. It was then I learned one of life's key lessons: if you want the cool stuff, be prepared to "Special Order." I got a few friends hooked on D.A. and together we were able to track down albums in their back catalog, but when I tried to order their 1981 LP "Horrendous Disc," and was told it was "out of print," I was sent into a searching, record collecting frenzy! Important discovery: it doesn't matter how cool it is, music with a small market goes out of print faster. It was around 1987 in college was when I *really* started collecting vinyl: replacing my deteriorating cassettes and taking advantage of the insanely voluminous variety and low prices of used records around Ohio State. I even found a "Horrendous Disc" in Columbus for $4!! But the collecting thing has been pretty Pavlovian in its psychological reinforcement. Most of these records that I say to myself, "If I don't buy this now, I'll never see it again" ARE that way, and a lot of my collecting interests are so obscure that dealers tend not to bother buying them to re-sell (my British 2000 AD Weekly comic magazine collection is a prime example; even UK dealers don't generally bother with back issues). If the unusual stuff does turn up, it's either really cheap or really pricey, as most folks on here could support from experience. Back to my Daniel Amos example, like a lot of the stuff popular on this list, DA is the kind of band that breeds a rabid cult following, which in turn breeds collectibilty. (Scanning over this message, I'm beginning to beg the question, has anyone on this list heard of DA?) A reliable but pricey dealer I know who deals in this stuff has been charging $100+ for "Horrendous Disc" LPs (the only DA vinyl to never see a CD-reissue) and up to $80 for the band's out of print CDs, making me feel QUITE content with my complete DA collection. Remembering my $4 purchase of that album, remembering finding Baxter's "Perfume Set to Music" for $1, Montenegro's Moog Power for 20 cents, ad infinitum, I can't stay out of thrift stores, flea markets, the bargain bins of record stores, etc. The sick thing is, it's getting to where I've got this backlog of albums I haven't had time to play. Among others, I've got at least a dozen Martin Denny LPs I've picked up over the past few months for 25 cents to $2 that I still haven't gotten around to, etc. But experience shows and reinforces, if you want it now or think you might later, you'd better grab it here and now. After complaining to a friend about a shortage of time and money, he said, "It's simple -- *stop collecting*." Yeah, it may be simple, but it's pretty mundane too. - Michael "There's too much cool stuff in this world" Toth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Lewis Subject: (exotica) exotica and comics Date: 12 Oct 1996 19:18:10 -0400 (EDT) A discussion of comics and no mention of Mike Diana? (I'm getting some chuckles from the likes of Lazlo now...) The talking huge tiki heads are cool... even if they are too infrequent between acts of gratuitous violence... pablito Paul Lewis lewis@netlab.texsci.edu Coordinator of Academic Computing (215) 951-2834 [office] Philadelphia College of Textiles and Science "We do it because we are compelled." -Alan Moore # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Lewis Subject: Re: (exotica) Halloween? Date: 12 Oct 1996 19:39:29 -0400 (EDT) This is tangentially related... but for Halloween music, you cannot go wrong with the spooky stylings of select Coil and Throbbing Gristle records. Some of this stuff is downright scary... I can't recommend a single album by TG with uniformly scary tunes, but _Heathen Earth_ and _3rd Annual Report_ have their moments... for Coil (Jill Mingo can help me out here), I seem to remember Horse Rotovator to be of the dark sort. _Themes from Hellraiser_ is probably another good one. I used many of these components during my Halloween radio shows... pablito! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kpundit@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Answer this! Date: 12 Oct 1996 20:00:02 -0400 Let's try that again. 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Yes. I was a member of Yard Trauma with Lee "Dionysus" Joseph & played Farfisia organ on their first two albums. Also recorded a single under my name (Lance Kaufman) in the early 90's called "They Dug Up Elvis" (which sounds like Cecil Taylor-meets-the Butthole Surfers) of which the B - side , "Peaceful Amazon Village", was a Martin Denny take-off. Recorded an album under the group name "Harmless" that has something to offend everyone - musically & verbally - wrote all the music, played keyboards (in unkeyboard fashion) & sang/screamed/talked all lyrics. Not for happy parties! Also have recorded & played with legendary 50's-60's jazz vocal hipster, Oscar Brown, Jr. during his comeback last year & will be doing 3 dates, Nov.1-3 at the Elbow room in San Francsico, with him. Come in & say "Hi". Oscar is best known for writing & singing lyrics to Nat Adderley's "Work Song" & Bobby Timmons' "Dat Dere" ("...and Daddy can I have that big elephant over dere.")And, finally I just did "Karla Pundit Presents Journey to the Ancient City" ("I AM KARLA " - use appropriate William Shatner inflections) & will be performing as "him" in November in L.A. If this didn't bore you, read my interview + record reviews of "Harmless" & "K.P." im this month's Cosmik Debris. 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Les Baxter's "Sacred Idol" & Richard Hayman's "Voodoo". Don't remember where I first heard them - my parents listened to Gilbert & Sullivan operetta's. But, I brought them to school in the 8th grade to share my excitement with & play them for my classmates. They didn't like them. Didn't learn & tried same thing several years later when I brought Jimmy Smith's "The Sermon" to my high school music appreciation class. Oh, they didn't have CD's then. 3. This list could help you more by... Helping eliminate my fear of mortality. 4. Other exotica/thing you collect... Old menus, postcards of 40's & 50's restaurants, bars, hotels, motels, Miami Beach, Las Vegas, Route 66;promo photos of strange 50's lounge groups that no one ever heard of; photos, posters, autographs, etc. of Peggy Lee, Louis Prima, Nat King Cole, Harry Belafonte, Spike Jones & various 50's & 60's jazz people. Also have been trying to find an autographed photo of Mickey Katz for several years. I have a vintage Yma Sumac autographed photo. 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like... Jazz, 20th century classical music, traditional African & Indian music, blues, black gospel, punk & underground from late 70's to present (faves are "Codeine", "Lungfish", Kim Gordon's (of Sonic Youth) "Free Kitten" &, after all these years, I STILL like "Sonic Youth" even though they make money now. Also like unintentionally bad or bizarre records - bad, unknown lounge acts that financed their own albums to sell in clubs, singers that can't sing, "Marcy", etc. Favorite obscure performer - Willie Restum, a goofy pseudo- beatnik-looking baritone sax player/singer who did a Louis Prima-type schtick in the 60's. Have 3 albums by him. 6. What are you just dying to tell us? The world is going down the proverbial toilet. 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality... LP. Not even close. You can't snuggle up to a CD. You can't hold it in your hands, savor the artwork & liner notes. It has a soul. CD's are sterile, soul- less. And, for me, that carries over into the sound as well. I do have some of the damn things, however. 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture & tassle color? Describe it or other lounge- wear you are proud... Yep, I do own a fez. But it's just kind of a generic burgundy with no tassle & ornamentation. What I really want is one of those little Chinese hats that Thelonious Monk used to wear sometimes when he played. I've also got a couple 40's silk smoking jackets & robes that are pretty neat. I had a 40's rayon shirt that had Shriners' fezes (fezzes? feces?) all over it (& camels) but I gave it to a friend who collects Shriners stuff. My first attempt at this was aborted & sent prematurely by one of my 56 cats (they are also great at aborting phone calls, too!). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Straw Subject: (exotica) Lounge coverage Date: 12 Oct 1996 21:02:44 -0400 Canadian list members may be interested in the long article on the cocktail revival, "Highball Culture," which appeared on the front page of the Globe and Mail Arts section today. It's mostly on the Vancouver scene, but covers the broader phenomenon. Will Will Straw Associate Professor and Acting Director, Graduate Program in Communications/ Director, The Centre for Research on Canadian Cultural Industries and Institutions McGill University 3465 rue Peel, Montreal, Quebec H3A 1W7 Phone: (514) 398 7667; Fax: (514) 398 4934 http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/gpc/crccii/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: (exotica) Answer this! Date: 13 Oct 1996 01:38:10 +0000 • 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Yes, I play anything that buzzzes and do engeneering/studio work. Mostly Analog keyboards ,Wurlies, Rhodes ,Clavinets. Sometimes cut-up/processing using EZ listening . I play styles from 70's Funk to House ,Jungle ,Detroit Techno to Mancini, Bacharach, Bossa Nova. • 2. Space age/exotica LP that turned you on to this... Mostly from movies more than anything I owned 5 or 6 records when I was a little guy: Henri Mancini :" 67' " and " The Pink Panther and Other Movie Themes" Nancy Sinatra : "These Boots...( or the one with that pink Bikini) The Beatles : "Srgnt Peppers..........Band" and I wore out the needle listening to them over and over again... Oh Yeah : "Casper the Friendly Ghost Golden Record" ....speaking of Halloween... • 3. This list could help you more by... Uh I don't know........ giving me lots of uhhh.....money for records/CD/8-tracks... • 4. Other exotica stuff I collect... Not really Exotica buuuut...Remote Controls (yeah for TV's), Analog Synths ,Vocoders, and Video Games. • 5. Unrelated music acts and genres I like.... Herbie Hancock (from 1972'- 1978') Stevie Wonder (from 1972'- 1978') , Telex , Kraftwerk and other early eighties european synth music. Stockhausen.... electronic experimental. • 6. preferred genre CD or LP? Mmmmm....what happened to 8-track......Any format I can find good music , hell i'd try to play the Rosetta Stone if I could get the right machine..... • 7. Own a fez? No. But I've eaten a couple..... • 8. What are you just dying to tell us? Vote for Frank Zappa in 96' -- Jason The Pygmy Taxi Corp http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ Vocod'o'rama http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocolist.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Tikis on T.V./monkees Date: 13 Oct 1996 01:38:47 -0400 Hey Laura, Sorry I haven't answered. I have a 3 week old newborn son and my life is utter chaos. It'll take me a couple days to track down that address for cool old TV tapes (including the Monkees & Honey West - you'd dig Honey West). I'm not ignoring you - I just had my life hijacked. --David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) latest Tiki events Date: 13 Oct 1996 02:29:01 -0400 Sam's Seafood Sunday The Hwaiian Shirt Klub is sponsoring a free show with free "happy hour" style buffet at Sam's Seafood on PCH in Seal Beach TOMORROW Sunday the 13 @ 3 pm in Sam's semi-private hidden wedding chapel grotto. Sam's is packed with Tikis and Noal's across the street is a little Tiki bar too. call Sam's at 310/592-1321 Hot off the press - ***New batch of Swingin' Tikis t-shirts is in. XL, XXL and tanks $10.00*** SAT 10/19 - Swingin' Tikis and Spencer the gardener @ Tiki Bar - 10:00 Tiki News reviewed Swingin Tikis CD in issue #7 and Spencer recieved a lot of lip service on the exotica mailing list some time ago, & what better place to see them. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottotemp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Molotov Cocktail Hour Power Date: 13 Oct 1996 02:35:29 -0400 Tuesday, October 15, 11 pm - 12 midnight (West coast time) You don't have to be a listener to support possibly the greatest Lounge/Exotica radio show in the past 30 years. Cyrano and Senor Amor have co-hosted The Molotov cocktail Hour for over seven years at 88.9 fm in Los Angeles. Call in your pledge of support and get a gift of gratitude without attitude 310 338-KXLU. Cyrano says "As for special premiums, yes Virginia there is a Tiki Claus. For this year's object d'art, I have selected an indigenous statue from easter island that was carved by one of the natives, and documented in Thor Heyerdahl's book, "Aku Aku" I believe these will go for $50.00 as last year. Of course I only made twenty five last year, and already have people asking if they are still available. You can bet this years will be as limited. . . also Ultra Lounge CDs and loads of other goodies as premiums including a never-been-used vintage "travelling bar in a small briefcase. . . it is for a good cause, and I really want our show's listeners to put their best foot forward!!" while you're at it you can pledge/call Jim Dunfrund's Surfwave on Thursday betw 11 -midnight for the same reasons # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Wilds Subject: (exotica) Combustible Edison watch Date: 13 Oct 1996 16:55:55 -0400 -- Combustible Edison at the new 9:30 Club, Washington, DC, Oct. 12, 1996 -- The vain new: Fans of the old 9:30 will find little familiar about the new joint. Everything inadequate before has been overcompensated for. Unfortunately, a great stage has come at the cost of supressing humanity. The staff are stationed in cigar, joe, beer, and food stations and brainwashed on pain of firing into toadying up to each and every band. All traces of the punk club are gone; no bartenders dance half-naked on the bar anymore. Forget "shot time." But it's a GREAT stage. The performance: Following an ill-matched opening act, Combustible Edison, sans Br Cleve, played to a crowd that had plenty of room (even after the club had expanded the stage; the band had plenty of room too). The Millionaire --wriggling in his infrared, Nehru-as-frogman swinger suit-- favored us with the accustomed ditties and more, occasionally fuzztoned his magical $3K guitar, and displayed great erudition in introducing a singing-better-than-ever Miss Lily Banquet, the rest of the crew, and their songs from an ancient, Aztec merry-go-round or drag strip. The second set saw a fuller house and the extemporaneous creation/spontaneous combustion of several new dances of a supremely ridiculous nature. New, original material was introduced --VERY STRONG-- we hope only that a few of the more ancient numbers will be rotated out soon. [Beloved covers Summer Samba/So Nice and Music to Watch Girls By are due for replacement especially.] It was VERY FUN, and the Monkey and Satanic dancers were just plain weird. The way it should be, at least in this inescapably post-ironic age. Audience participation: Refreshing: uninhibited dancing (Baltimore has not even inhibited dancing). Boring: lame dressing (ubiquitous "date" wear, not even t-shirts and jeans). Surprising: uniformly clean-cut types, nary a chin beard in sight. That's DC. Tony _______________________________________________________________ WILDs SOUNDS(tm) --exotic & space-age records-- wilds@charm.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Leopard skin CD Date: 13 Oct 1996 17:50:19 -0400 At 08:12 PM 10/12/96 +0100, you wrote: >On 10 Oct 1996 10:31:40 -0400, Laura Taylor wrote: > ><< In the oh-so-humble opinion of Lounge Laura(like it matters)-THE BLUES AND >THE BEAT is one of the all-time Mancini greats. period. Buy it or suffer >regret for the rest of your life here and in the spiritual world. I *mean >it,* man... >> > >Well I bought it, and it's pretty good although not the best Mancini by a long >shot IMHO. Anyway, on my (Spanish) pressing it has the original artwork & notes >but no indication of composers; so which of the tracks are not covers, ie >Mancini compositions ?? I agree. You are better off getting "More Music From Peter Gunn" available on German BMG/RCA. A much superior albums (w. bonus tracks) IMOP. Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bstewart@ids2.idsonline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Les Baxter CD: Cry of the Banshee/E.A. Poe Suite Date: 13 Oct 1996 17:53:15 -0400 At 05:43 PM 10/12/96 -0400, you wrote: >Just picked up a CD of Les Baxter's movie scores, "Cry of the Banshee" and >"Edgar Allan Poe Suite" paired with John Cacavas's "Horror Express." > >Very nice "20 bit digital transfer" indeed and a wonderful upgrade from the >weak cassette that I had of the Baxter material. The CD claims to be ADD >and certainly sounds that way. Also nice is that the CD booklet has some >liner notes written by Baxter presumably from the original LP which I have >never laid eyes on. There is also a little bio on Baxter written after his >death earlier this year. > >I think that this info has been posted here before, but for those he missed >it the first time around it is on the Citadel label. Catalog# STC 7107. Is this better than Baxter's GNP/Cresendo releases? I've seen this CD but am debating wheather to buy it or not. Anyone else out there heard it? Bryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. # Postings must go to exotica@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Lewis Subject: Re: (exotica) answer this! Date: 13 Oct 1996 18:31:40 -0400 (EDT) > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... No. I have no rhythm. I actually did try to play bass in an almost 'band' in high school. If you saw "Welcome to the Dollhouse", you get the idea. Take away the Jim Morrison lead singer, and we weren't even that good. I think it lasted a week. The only song I could play was Bauhaus' "Bela Legosi's Dead" (if you know the song, that should make laughs), and some other thing that I can't remember. > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? From reading the other replies, I'm different than most people who had been exposed to a re-release which piqued their interest. I was first exposed to Martin Denny and Les Baxter from frequent mentions by members of Throbbing Gristle. I had been a TG fan for years and the more I read Denny and Baxters' names, the more I had to find out about them. I believe Denny's Exotica was the first listen and it was all over by then... > 3. This list could help you more by... More reviews of stuff that isn't re-released on CD. Chipping in for a new car? > 4. Other exotica/things you collect I like tikis and vintage clothing. I also collect comics, books on the JFK assassination, late 60's vintage furniture, super 8 film equipment, Sanrio stuff, Houdini ephemera, etc. I collect a lot of crap. > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Einsturzende Neubauten, Throbbing Gristle, Fugazi, The Make-Up (you gotta know), other D.C. (mainly Dischord) bands, The Beatles, KISS, June of '44, Shellac, lots