From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Marlene Dietrich Date: 01 May 1998 03:46:04 -0400 At 07:56 PM 30/04/98 -0700, Steve Sando wrote: > >At 09:14 PM 4/30/98 -0400, Nat Kone wrote: >>Don't know the exact title but it was "Marlene Dietrich singing in German >>with the Burt Bacharach Orchestra". I guess maybe Burt decided not to show >>up personally for this date for fear his ancestors might role over in their >>graves. > >What do you mean by this? Oh it's just my little joke about a Jewish boy conducting a woman singing German songs which may in fact be decadent songs and altogether different than other songs sung in German but when you have people around you spitting on BMW's, you don't start splitting hairs. And given that the record might have been made 30 years ago when memories were fresher, I thought the issue might have occurred to Burt. Does that explain it sufficiently? It's just this little chip that was put in me and forces me to make a little joke whenever Germans and Jews are shoved up against each other in any context. But usually I only make my little jokes among people who know that I can't help it and I don't really mean anything... so I guess I'll suppress it now. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "keir keightley" Subject: (exotica) "fusion criminals" Date: 01 May 1998 02:19:48 PDT Nat, I couldn't agree with you more... From BossaNovaVille, Keir ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: (exotica) Mike/Gary/Jake/Mu Date: 01 May 1998 12:01:12 +0000 Moritz R wrote: >Lo-Fi Superstar MIKE PARADINAS strikes again. >GARY MOSCHELES is his newest "Alter Ego", (...) And if you want to see him live, Mike Paradinas is touring with Bjork on her upcoming US tour (under his u-Ziq moniker). Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "telstar" Subject: Re: (exotica) Marlene Dietrich Date: 01 May 1998 07:34:49 -0400 Nat wrote: > Oh it's just my little joke about a Jewish boy conducting a woman singing > German songs which may in fact be decadent songs and altogether different > than other songs sung in German but when you have people around you > spitting on BMW's, you don't start splitting hairs. And given that the > record might have been made 30 years ago when memories were fresher, I > thought the issue might have occurred to Burt. I had thought that Dietrich fled Germany because she couldn't stand the scumbag Nazis. So I fail to see any problem with Burt conducting. Allan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) Re: Marlene/Bachrach LP Date: 01 May 1998 04:56:54 Nat Kone wrote: >I didn't buy it because it was $5 and that's too much for a record I don't >want but it made me thought of you guys. >Don't know the exact title but it was "Marlene Dietrich singing in German >with the Burt Bacharach Orchestra". I guess maybe Burt decided not to show >up personally for this date for fear his ancestors might role over in their >graves. I'm not sure if this is the same LP, but I have one from 1964 on the British EMI label titled, "Die neue Marlene," that is a gem. Marlene sings such contemprorary hits as "Puff, the Magic Dragon," and "Blowin' in the Wind"--in German. The arrangements certainly sound like Bachrach, and Marlene puts her trademark "world-weary" stamp on even the most upbeat tunes. A cut above your average "golden throat" vinyl. Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Randy Subject: (exotica) Looking for Exotica Mp3's Date: 01 May 1998 08:08:30 -0400 (EDT) Since i am unable to get to a state where i can by some exotica records i was wondering if there are any good exotica wwebsites with MP3's thanks, randle # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: Re: (exotica) Billy Mure/Haggis Baggis Date: 01 May 1998 10:15:25 -0400 >a strange, cartoonish rock and roll number, with the >"singer" chanting (in a deep, croaking voice)"Haggis Baggis" to the >accompaniment of the supersonic guitar. The song is listed as the >soundtrack to a TV (Game?)show of the same name. Anyone know anything >about this program? Is this single featured on lp release? The song "Haggis Baggis" is on the fabulous Mure LP _Supersonics in Flight_ (I think his second release on RCA Victor). But on the LP it's an instumental--no chanting, croaky or otherwise. . . Sounds like a find to me! I've often wondered what the story was with Mure's career--how was it that he ended up featured on both A-list RCA albums and those sub-grade-Z releases on Strand. . . If anyone could find all the masters, he really deserves a serious CD reissue. --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) Ray McVay Date: 01 May 1998 14:26:46 +0100 Can anyone tell me if 'We Got Soul' by Ray McVay's Big Band Sound is worth getting hold of. Featuring 'soul' classics: Soul Man, 25 Miles, Knock on Wood and Soul Finger, its got a funky cover with some groovy 60s chicks out on the razz in swinging 60s London. Hot or Not? Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Sando Subject: Re: (exotica) Marlene Dietrich Date: 01 May 1998 09:15:47 -0700 >Oh it's just my little joke about a Jewish boy conducting a woman singing
>German songs which may in fact be decadent songs and altogether different
>than other songs sung in German but when you have people around you
>spitting on BMW's, you don't start splitting hairs

It's just that Marlene Dietrich was famous for working with the Allies, not the Germans, during WWII despite being the most German of women. Her singing Lili Marlene to our boys was pretty moving and probably demoralizing to the Germans.

As for her singing, she's got no voice and yet is a great vocalist.

As for Bachrach, I may be wrong but I thought it was well-known that Dietrich "discovered" him. I know I've seen photos of them together.

.>And given that the
>record might have been made 30 years ago when memories were fresher, I
>thought the issue might have occurred to Burt.

Maybe because the memories were fresher, Burt understood Dietrich's role in history.


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> >German songs which may in fact be decadent songs and altogether Please don't use HTML. It makes posts unreadable. Cheers, Pete. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SPECIAL AGENT J3274 Subject: (exotica) X-Mailer: MUSIC/SP V5.1.0 Date: 01 May 1998 12:43:19 CDT howzit goin? I am new to the list and to the genre and also not hip to the different classifications of this music. In the past I have enjoyed surf (ventures, Dale, Impala) jazz (Cozy Cole, Basie, Miller) and other types of music that I cannot classify ( Tortise, sea and cake, Mogwi). But of late I have been falling back on these old 60's ska and 60's japanese organrecords that i have had for years. I was curious if any of you nice folks would be kind enough to send me a mix tape of your fave selections and a description of how you would classify them. If anyone does I will send them my lounge home recording project called "THE CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ ORCHESTRA" when I am done (2/3 finished) address: JASON TULLER 1211 NINTH STREET DARDANELLE AR, 72834 Please send tapes before june... I am moving to AZ. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Larry House Subject: (exotica) Linda Perhacs Date: 01 May 1998 15:14:12 -0400 Does anyone subscribing to the newsgroup have any information they'd like to share about Linda Perhacs and/or her LP "Parallelograms" (Kapp KS 3636)? I've searched rececently and have turned up no resources on the web or otherwise. I thought that some of you who are into unusual/weird/exotic sounds might be able to relate some info or point me in the right direction. Thanks for any assistance, Larry House. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Marlene Dietrich Date: 01 May 1998 16:48:20 -0400 At 09:15 AM 01/05/98 -0700, Steve Sando wrote: It's just that Marlene Dietrich was famous for working with the Allies, not the Germans, during WWII despite being the most German of women. Her singing Lili Marlene to our boys was pretty moving and probably demoralizing to the Germans. I didn't believe that was the reason, okay? It's just that when you see one of those records and it says "Burt Bacharach Orchestra" instead of "Burt AND his orchestra", I naturally start to wonder if Burt himself was on the record or not and then I wonder if not, why not? And then that thing jumps into my head. It's a knee jerk reaction that comes from old old training. And I thought that others with similar training might have the same reaction so I just threw it in. And they'd think "yeah, someone else thought that too". And chuckle at that training we got. It's like a joke but not one of those really funny jokes. More one of those "nod of recognition" jokes. But if you didn't have that training, you wouldn't get it. Hey that's the chance you take when you tell a joke. There are no pictures of them together on the record, no pictures of him at all. And I was reacting mostly to the fact that the songs were SUNG IN GERMAN, not the fact that it was Marlene Dietrich. It's interesting if in fact she did discover him but I think they make a strange pair anyway. Not for any Nazi or anti-Nazi reasons. I also would be struck by a record of the Hollyridge strings backing up Yma Sumac. Or Esquivel and Lulu. Or Leni Riefenstahl directing a Leonard Cohen video. But I think it would be a very hot video, if she did. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NATHAN MINER Subject: (exotica) Peter Thomas.... Date: 01 May 1998 15:26:58 -0400 Okay gang. I'm ready to plop down the $$ for the Scamp release when I get offa work (Sound Garden has it!!). Is this the best release for a newbie to this guy??? I'm listening to the CD right now on the web and I think it's great. But, is there another compilation that I might want to consider or will this pretty much give me as much as I'd want (I'm one of those who gets a "comp" or "best of" of somebody then moves on.....there's so much to listen to..!) - Nate (reply before 4:50pm!!!!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Kui Lee Date: 01 May 1998 17:56:34 -0500 I just thrifted a copy of Jack de Mello plays the music of Kui Lee (on Music of Polynesia records). From the notes I gather this is orchestral, brass orchestra and vocal group settings of Kui Lee's songs. So, here's my question: Who *is/was* Kui Lee?? The notes are written as if he was Dylan, as if everyone would know who he is/was. Can anyone fill me in? Here's two (of many) paragraphs from the liners: Kui writes today's music -- about today's Hawaii. And when the history of the music of the Islands is written about this era, it will be one man's music that will have changed the tired image of whispering palm trees, moonlit nights, beautiful beaches, and hula girls -- and changed it for the better. Hawaii is really not like that, and Kui's honest music is about Hawaii as it really is today. Sure, there are beach boys and hula girls and palm trees -- and like that -- and sure, Kui writes about 'em as they are today. But he also writes about the new Hawaii -- about the new wave of young people of the Islands. Being one of them, he understands them, he expresses their hopes and thoughts, their fears, their desires, their contentments, their anxieties, and their love. Oy, Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stefan@subliminal.se (Subliminal Sounds) Subject: Re: (exotica) Kui Lee Date: 02 May 1998 01:27:42 +0200 (MET DST) Lou wrote: >I just thrifted a copy of Jack de Mello plays the music of Kui Lee (on Music >of Polynesia records). The triple box set or a single LP? The liner notes on the box set tells his whole life story. I'll have to get back on that as I dont have it at my office. The 3rd lp in the set is incredible especially "Waikiki at Midnight"! I had one of Kui's own LPs once, title eluds me now, but it was pretty forgetable except for the narrated introduction. Stefan Stefan/Subliminal Sounds web-site: http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-64169/ e-mail: stefan@subliminal.se Subliminal Sounds S:t Paulsgatan 16 SE-118 46 STOCKHOLM SWEDEN Tel/Fax/Office: +46 - 694 86 66 Tel Shop: +46 - 694 86 77 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) re: Kui Lee Date: 01 May 1998 19:37:03 -0500 At 01:27 AM 5/2/98 +0200, Stefan wrote: >Lou wrote: >>I just thrifted a copy of Jack de Mello plays the music of Kui Lee (on Music >>of Polynesia records). > >The triple box set or a single LP? There's a triple box of this stuff?!? I found the single LP, which, unfortunately, doesn't have your pick hit "Waikiki at Midnight." The song titles on this one are: I'll Remember You / One Paddle, Two Paddle / All I Want To Do / The Days Of My Youth / Ain't No Big Thing / Go To Him / Lahainaluna / Rain Rain Go Away / Kanaka Pete / She's Gone Again / Going Home / No Other Song Thanks for the tip! -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Marlene Dietrich Date: 01 May 1998 20:23:30 -0400 At 4:48 PM -0400 5/1/98, Nat Kone wrote: > It's just that when you see one of those records and it says "Burt >Bacharach Orchestra" instead of >"Burt AND his orchestra"......... >There are no pictures of them together on the record, no pictures of him >at all. >It's interesting if in fact she did discover him but I think they make a >strange pair anyway. She did in fact discover him. It mentions this in the liner notes on his first A&M solo album. There is some excellent footage of them together on the exemplary Bacharach documentary the BBC made last year (which has been shown in the U.S., and probably elsewhere, too). This film also relates the tale of her discovering him. I would surmise the reasons that there are no photos of him on the Dietrich album(s) is because : A) he was unknown at the time B) the orchestra leader was rarely if ever pictured on the LP covers of the time (unless it was his own album........and even then, not always. For example, Esquivel's photo does not show up on an album jacket until LP #4, "Exploring New Sounds.......") br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Marlene Dietrich Date: 01 May 1998 21:48:43 -0400 At 08:23 PM 01/05/98 -0400, Br. Cleve wrote: >She did in fact discover him. It mentions this in the liner notes on his >first A&M solo album. What was Burt Bacharach doing when Marlene discovered him? Lurking outside her window? Cleaning her pool? She brought him inside; he looked shyly at her piano. "Do you play?" she asked him. The rest is history? I guess I don't have his first album. On the back of "Reach out" it does say that Marlene doted on him as an arranger and adored him as a man. But I guess she didn't dote on him as a man. Anyway, learned something new. Just looked at that Dietrich record and thought "Bacharach and Dietrich? What are you going to tell me next? Phil Spector produced Leonard Cohen? Yeah right." nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dlsmay Subject: Re: (exotica) Marlene Dietrich Date: 01 May 1998 23:25:14 EDT This was probably already covered in this thread, but Burt's job with Marlene was his first big break in show-biz. He was her arranger for several years before he became known as a composer. --David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Russo" Subject: (exotica) Modular Date: 01 May 1998 21:46:47 -0700 Here's a teaser and a link for the film MODULATIONS, published on the web at IndieWIRE.com.: >>INTERVIEW: Iara Lee's "Modulations" moves to Gen Art by Tim LaTorre/indieWIRE In the world of documentary features, Iara Lee's films stand out for their vibrant and timely subjects, focusing mainly on the influence of technology on present and future lifestyles. Her 1996 debut, "Synthetic Pleasures," uncovered our growing fascination with everything artificial--from giant indoor beaches to the development of artificial intelligence. Her new film, "Modulations," follows the evolution of electronic music in the 20th century, using today's dance scene as a springboard to delve into the origins of the art form with musicians, theorists, technicians, and scientists as diverse as John Cage and Karlheinz Stockhausen to modern media personalities like Prodigy, Moby and Orbital. After debuting in the documentary competition at this year's Sundance Film Festival, "Modulations," continues its ambassadorship of 'electronica' at the Gen Art Film Festival tonight in New York. >> Read the COMPLETE ARTICLE @ indieWIRE.com: C. "Ratso" Russo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Marlene Dietrich Date: 02 May 1998 11:19:59 -0400 At 9:48 PM -0400 5/1/98, Nat Kone wrote: >What was Burt Bacharach doing when Marlene discovered him? Lurking outside >her window? Cleaning her pool? He was sneaking a cigarette in the back of Tin Pan Alley; she asked him for a match, and he said "Me and you, baby". .........he had worked as an arranger/conductor for a few years with a number of vocalists (among them, Vic Damone) and was beginning to have some success as a songwriter, but Dietrich gave him international recognition. "Baby It's You" became a massive hit toward the end of his tenure with her. > What are you going to tell me next? Phil >Spector produced Leonard Cohen? Yeah right." uh, well........alright, so Phil locked Cohen out of the studio midway through production, but still technically......... br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Declicking software for the Mac Date: 02 May 1998 15:26:08 +0200 Ron Grandia asked: Arboretum (http://www.arboretum.com) has a $99 thing called "Ray Gun" than does noise reduction, pop (decklick), and filters (rumble, 50 & 60 Hz). it's a stand-alone application & adobe premiere plug-in. got a rating of 4 and a half mouse in MacWorld of April. there's a working ray gun demo included in the Peak LE demo that you can download for free from Bias' web site: http://www.bias-inc.com Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be --- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) REVIEW> Prozak For Lovers Date: 01 May 1998 20:28:02 +0200 This review has been added to my web site........... "Prozak For Lovers" REVIEW: Nine rock/pop classics and one country song are given a cool, sedated, early 60's EZ treatment on this highly recommended CD. You'll hear two soft voices (Bruce Lash & Maura Corey), reminding me a bit of Francis Lai, very subtly accompanied by acoustic guitar, conga, raspe, flute, bass, vibes and organ, giving the sound a slight Brazilian touch. The atmosphere is intimate, relaxed, and often sexy (especially Maura Corey solo in "Rebel rebel"... yummy!) This is not a parody project, or a tongue-in-cheek camp album, like the groovy Mike Flowers Pops, or the over-the-top cavalcade of cliches in Jaymz Bee's multi-talented "Cocktail shakin' and stirred". No, this is fine, tasteful, excellent musicianship, with love and respect for the originals AND the resulting easy listening cover versions. Listen to representative RealAudio fragments at "http://home.att.net/~bblash/page6.html". TRACKS: 1. Proud Mary 2. Pump It Up 3. Aqualung 4. Love will tear us apart 5. (Don't Fear) the Reaper 6. Message of love 7. I wanna be sedated 8. London Calling 9. Rebel rebel 10. Fulsom Prison blues (live) DETAILS: Prozak For Lovers: "Prozak For Lovers" cd, Private pressing, USA, 1998, 41:04 minutes e-mail address: blash@qmail.com (c) Johan Dada Vis 1996 - 1998 All Rights Reserved "Dada'quariums Exotica": Johan Dada Vis quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Advice on soundtrack reissues: After The Fox Date: 02 May 1998 14:58:32 +0200 >Is this the same Bacharach sountrack with the Hollies and Peter Sellers??? yes. Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Boo! Ghost questions? "Mr. Ghost Goes To Town" Date: 02 May 1998 15:10:51 +0200 on Sat, 7 Mar 1998, Dlsmay wrote: It's a Halloween novelty (with vocals), perhaps most famously done by The Five Jones Boys on the Human Orchestra collection. But Louis Prima did it too on that cool jump blues/big band halloween collection (Halloween Stomp? Somebody help me out. yep, that's right, "Halloween Stomp" on cd Jass 623 Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be --- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: GARY MOSCHELES (NEW Exotica???) Date: 02 May 1998 14:54:28 +0200 Moritz R wrote: >Not really new, I discovered this one yesterday and I think its really >really good. Call it primitive sampling. this guy turned sampling into >an art form of it's own. You can really hear the samples start and stop >but that makes the groove. Hilarious! > >GARY MOSCHELES >"Shaped to make your Life easier" i've had a chance to listen to that one, but to me it sounded like 99% techno + 1 % "exotic"... but i have to add that i rather hate techno and all that modern bonkaboonkabook stuff ;-) Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be --- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) reference books Date: 02 May 1998 15:42:32 -0400 (EDT) We talk mostly about records here on the group, but I'm wondering what reference books y'all keep on your bookshelf. I suppose most of us have and endorse Joseph Lanza's Elevator Music and both volumes of Re/Search's Incredibly Strange Music. Some other books on my shelves are: The Catalog of Cool, ed. by Gene Sculatti (1982) Goldmine's Celebrity Vocals by Ron Lofman (1994) Goldmine's Comedy Record Price Guide by Ronald L. Smith (1996) Hi-Fi's & Hi-Balls by Steven Guarnaccia & Bob Sloan (1997) Hollywood Hi-Fi by those 2 guys whose names I can't remember Ocean of Sound by David Toop (1995) Soundtrack: The Music Of The Movies by Mark Evans (1979) Thrift Score by Al Hoff, Girl Reporter (1997) TV's Biggest Hits by Jon Burlingame (1996) Ultra Lounge by Dylan Jones (1997) - yeah i what a rip off this one is... And magazines including: Cannot Become Obsolete, Cool & Strange Music!, Exotica/Etc., Thrift Score and Tiki News. So, what other publications do y'all find essential? --Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim @ World Wide Wax" Subject: (exotica) Exotica Auction Date: 02 May 1998 12:09:59 +0000 I've created a new Exotica Auction at: http://www.worldwidewax.com/xx2/ With LPs/78s by Tak Shindo, Bob Thompson, Esquivel, Herbie Mann, George Cates, Yma Sumac, Leo Diamond, Dominic Frontiere, Rosemary Brown, Martin Denny, Les Baxter and others. Song title listings are given. All covers/78 labels have been scanned for your viewing pleasure. Best, Tim Barron World Wide Wax - Your source for classic vinyl Over 4,000 lps for sale & 600 scanned covers at: http://www.worldwidewax.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) What's New, Pussycat? Date: 02 May 1998 16:25:37 -0400 Sunday night at 10:00 pm (eastern) on TCM: "What's New, Pussycat?" (1965) No description necessary, right? m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: (exotica) How to play 78's? Date: 02 May 1998 15:45:14 Actually, I'd like to know how to *tape* 78 RPM records. I have an old Zenith radio/record player combo that I can use to listen to 78's, but I'd like to find a way to get those oldies on tape. Someone told me they had purchased a 6-speed turntable for playing 78's, but the sound left much to be desired. Any suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated! -Indy Rutks (rutks002@tc.umn.edu) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wayne & Tony Subject: Re: (exotica) Ray McVay Date: 02 May 1998 11:53:18 +1000 Given that cover how could you resist! Everything I've heard by Ray McVay and His Funky Trumpet has been fab. Buy it I say! Wayne Charles Moseley wrote: > Can anyone tell me if 'We Got Soul' by Ray McVay's Big Band Sound is worth > getting hold of. Featuring 'soul' classics: Soul Man, 25 Miles, Knock on > Wood and Soul Finger, its got a funky cover with some groovy 60s chicks out > on the razz in swinging 60s London. > > Hot or Not? > > Charlie > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Cocktail 2000 Date: 02 May 1998 17:30:15 +0000 Somebody sent me a copy of "Cocktail 2000" (Music for Leisure CD 01) by the Lance Gambit Trio. It's got loungey versions of tunes by Oasis, Spice Girls, Dodgy, Gina G., Pulp and others. Piano, bass, drums, congas, vibes, some cool wordless vocals. The liner notes and the packaging make it sound like a big put-on, complete with photos of Lance's "other" albums, including "Cocktail Magic", "Cocktail Party", etc. I don't usually care much for these Loungeapalooza stunts, but I have to admit I kinda like this one! Apparently it was released in the UK back in November, and it sounds like a stateside release is imminent. Has this been mentioned before? Anybody ever heard of this? What's the deal? Darrell Brogdon Program Director KANU Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 dbrogdon@ukans.edu http://www.ukans.edu/~kanu-fm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryls Subject: (exotica) Playlist for The Single Eye, May 3 Date: 02 May 1998 22:45:06 -0400 "The Single Eye" can be heard every Sunday at 4pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and is hosted by Brian and Cheryl. Comments & questions welcome. Soon to come - RealAudio! May 3 - Space Music For The Uninitiated Joe Meek: I Hear A New World, Orbit Around The Moon "I Hear A New World" (The man was truly a visionary - even today, this music is ahead of its time.) Howie B.: Shag "Music For Babies" (Newer spacey stuff) Lucia Pamela: Moontown, Walking On The Moon "Into Outer Space With Lucia Pamela" (Lucia Pamela claims to have recorded this one on the moon - need we say more?) Skylab: Seashell "Skylab #1" (More newer spacey stuff) The Ventures: Fear, The Twilight Zone "Ventures In Space" (Renditions as only The Ventures can do them) Oval: Do While "Diskont" (You may have noticed a pattern here - 1960's ideas of space music, juxtaposed with 1990's ideas of the same - and what a difference!) Perrey And Kingsley: Spooks In Space, Jungle Blues From Jupiter "The Essential Perrey And Kingsley" (What space music show would be complete without Perrey and Kingsley? 30 years later, these quirky pieces are still fun to listen to) L@N: L@N L-10 "L@N" (From Germany's A-Musik) 101 Strings: Flameout, Astral Freakout "Astral Sounds From Beyond The Year 2000" (Speaking of being in space...) POL: Dimda "Transomuba" (Also from A-Musik) cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: Re: (exotica) reference books Date: 03 May 1998 06:56:21 +0100 Lou asked: >So, what other publications do y'all find essential? 1) Rock On! Illustrated Encyclopaedia of Rock and Roll (but covers other genres) - by Norm N. Nite 2) Billboard book of (USA) Top 40 hits 3) Guinness book of (UK) hit singles 4) Music Master CD catalog 5) The Name Game (real names + more) Glen Baker 6) Total Television 7) Billboard Music Guide (CD ROM) 8) Ivor Mairants' Dance Band chords (for guitar)(50's goodie) 9) Trade catalogs (list all UK releases except 78's from 1955-64) Hugh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mighty recording corp." Subject: Re: (exotica) reference books Date: 02 May 1998 23:10:52 -0800 i'm pretty sure billboard also publishes a book of easy listening chart hits, too. i have the info on it somewhere here. paul moshay mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833 los angeles, calif. 90078 (213) 851-5557, (213) 851-1551 fx new 'reply to' email now: mighty65@pacbell.net coming soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) reference books Date: 03 May 1998 02:16:04 -0400 At 3:42 PM -0400 5/2/98, Lou Smith wrote: >So, what other publications do y'all find essential? Lou, that's a beautiful list. I'd be honored to sit in your library some day. I keep 99% of those (don't have the Toop, must add it) plus a few more - The Album Cover Art Of Soundtracks, ed. by Frank Jastfelder and Stefan Kassel Cad, A Handbook For Heels , ed. by Charles Schneider Pin-up Mania, by Alan Betrock Album Covers From The Vinyl Junkyard, Booth-Cliburn Editions That's Blaxploitation, by Darius James A Girl and A Gun, by David N. Meyer and so many cocktail recipe books I can't even begin.........but I like this thread....... br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: breithel@lund.mail.telia.com (Ingemar Breithel) Subject: Re: (exotica) reference books Date: 03 May 1998 12:36:06 +0200 At 15.42 980502, Lou Smith wrote: >So, what other publications do y'all find essential? Here's some additional reading matter: Yasushi Ide (ed.): In the Mood (1991) - before the era of websites with album cover scans, this was something to drool over: a wonderful book with photos of records by Baxter, Gleason, Riddle, Shearing, etc. David Meeker: Jazz in the Movies (1977) Roy Carr, Brian Case, and Fred Dellar: The Hip - Hipsters, Jazz, and the Beat Generation (1986) Ferguson & Johnson: Mainstream Jazz Reference and Price Guide 1949--1965 (1984) Robert Gordon: Jazz West Coast (1986) The Billboard Book of Brazilian Music (1991) - for the bossa nova content Hal David: What the World Needs Now and Other Love Lyrics (1968) - has interesting background info on the conception of some of this century's greatest songs (and a foreword by Dionne Warwick) Schwann catalogs - THE essential reference guides And, moving away from the music for a moment, for space age design and bachelor pad style, the following books are highly recommended: Gerd and Ursula Hatje: Design for Modern Living (1962) Cara Greenberg: Mid-Century Modern. Furniture of the 1950s (1984) Martin Eidelberg (ed.): Design 1935--1965. What Modern Was (1991) Lesley Jackson: The New Look. Design in the Fifties (1991) Lesley Jackson: Contemporary. Architecture and Interiors of the 1950s (1994) Mark Burns and Louis DiBonis: Fifties Homestyle. Popular Ornament of the USA (1988) Thomas Hine: Populuxe (1986) Alan Hess: Googie. Fifties Coffee Shop Architecture (ca 1990) Holly Wahlberg: Everyday Elegance: 1950s Plastics Design (1994). Sheila Steinberg and Kate E. Dorner: Fabulous Fifties: Designs for Modern Living Ingemar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MUV96TBD@Student2.lu.se (Kenny Brockelstein) Subject: Re: (exotica) What's New, Pussycat? Date: 03 May 1998 12:52:17 +0100 >"What's New, Pussycat?" (1965) Has this been released on CD? I can't seem to find it....I've seen it on vinyl but I prefer CDs. On a related note to this soundtrack, has anyone heard Arthur Lee & Love's cover of My Little Red Book? Bacharach hated it apparently....I think it's pretty cool though, but not as good as the "psychedelic muzak/punk with strings" of Forever Changes. Kenny Brockelstein # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MUV96TBD@Student2.lu.se (Kenny Brockelstein) Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: GARY MOSCHELES (NEW Exotica???) Date: 03 May 1998 12:52:20 +0100 > i've had a chance to listen to that one, but to me it sounded > like 99% techno + 1 % "exotic"... but i have to add that i rather > hate techno and all that modern bonkaboonkabook stuff ;-) Yeah, kids of today....we can only make noise, not music ;) Actually, digging deeper into the world of exotica, I'm surprised to hear a lot of really big connections between exotica and "that modern bonkaboonkabook stuff". I mean, listen to Pierre Henry or JJ Perrey, then put on the latest albums with Mouse On Mars or Aphex Twin.....they're all basically the same! It's in the same tradition, only that MOM has access to a lot of modern technology.....it wouldn't surprise me at all if JJ Perrey's forthcoming album will fit perfectly in with today's electronica/ambient/whateveryouchoosetocallit! Jack Diamond, you had heard it, right? What would you say, comparing it to the latest modern electronica? Kenny Brockelstein # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: (exotica) Phuture Lounge playlist Date: 03 May 1998 11:01:44 -0600 Here is the playlist for the Phuture Lounge show broadcasting on Subcity Radio, 106.2 FM, Glasgow, Scotland on Sundays through May 17th, 3.30pm - 5pm. Hosted by DJ Mingo-go. Here is the list for May 3rd. Any queries? Just email me. 5th DIMENSION "Stoned Soul Picnic" ST. ETIENNE "Spring" BEACH BOYS "Passing By" GREGORY "Je Fais La La La" FREE DESIGN "Felt So Good" ANDY WILLIAMS "Music to Watch Girls By" SERGIO MENDES & BRASIL 66 "Chelsea Morning" MONEY MARK "Use Your Head" A. TROVAIOLI & AF LAVAGNINO "Sun City" JIMI TENOR "Unmentionables" HIGH LLAMAS "Hiball Nova Scotia" LES BAXTER "I Dig" PIERO PICCIONI "Mr. Dante Fontana" FLORINDA BOLKAN "Metti Una Sera A Cena" CHRISTY "Deep Down" ENNIO MORRICONE "Ho Messo Gli Occhi Su Di Te" BRUNO NICOLAI "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" MIKE SAMMS SINGERS "He Who Would Valient Be" RICHARD HAYMAN "Hare Krishna" BLACK MASS LUCIFER "The Ride of Aida (Voodoo)" JERRY GOLDSMITH "The Trouble with Angels - Main Theme" SERGE GAINSBOURG "Les Succettes" FRANCE GALL "Teenie Weenie Boppie" BRIGITTE BARDOT "Ca Pourrait Changer" FERRANTE & TEICHER "How High the Moon" NANCY & LEE "You've Lost that Lovin' Feelin'" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) reference books Date: 03 May 1998 13:58:00 -0400 Coincidentally enough, just a couple of days ago I lucked into a nice 50 cent find -- a hi-fi-exploitation pocket paperback titled: "The Authentic Guide To Hi-Fidelity And Stereo" by Herschel L. Stark, assisted by Joseph F. Reid (about 188 pgs, 1963, Authentic Publications, New York, NY) Part of the Authentic Reference Library, including "Rapid System Language Guides" (Italian, German, Spanish, French, Russian and Ingles available) I haven't had time to check it in depth, but it's sort of a mid-geek tome, written to bring the beginners up to speed, I guess. Has a scattering of illos and photos, very much of the time, which is to say, up our alley. Much of the info is actually still pretty valid. There's some classic audio-geek prose, like in the section on 'how high does your frequency response really need to be', where the harmonic content of various musical instruments is discussed: "FLUTE -- Opinions differ on the number of harmonics to be found in the tones of a flute. Some have even described the flute tone as simple (having no harmonics) when played softly in the low register, and then again in the extreme upper range. However, some thoughts hold that as many as eight to twelve harmonics exist in the low tones, and two or three at the upper-most notes. The fundamental frequency range of a flute is from middle C (261 cps) to about 2093 cycles. Presuming that the top note could contain as many as four harmonics yields a high frequency of 2093 X 4 = 8372 cycles for flute tone harmonics." We will never arrive at a rock-solid definition of Exotica (fortunately), but we do now have a definition of Hi-Fi. Actually, he's quoting from the Radiotron Designer's Handbook: "It is generally agreed that a high fidelity amplifier should comply with the following specifications. Values in parentheses are rather extreme. Frequency range: 40 to 15,000 (30 to 20,000) cps. Variation in output: +- 1 db (+- 0.5 db) at 3 levels. Total harmonic distortion: Not more than 1% (0.7%). Intermodulation distortion: Not more than 3% (2%), measured at 40 cps, and some say 7,000 cps -- r.m.s. sum. Power output sufficient to ensure that over-loading does not occur." The photos are mostly in the section titled "The Showcase", which seems to be a bit of graft, with photographs and specifications "presented through the courtesy of the following manufacturers...", including AR, Ampex, Electro-Voice, Fisher, Heathkit, Jensen, Pickering, etc. (my fav is the Ampex 1250 reel to reel tape recorder). The best photo is of a modern couple dancing in their living room with University's "Companion II" and "Senior II" speaker cabinets prominently on view. The "Medallion XII" photo, showing off its "Select-A-Style" grille and base options is maybe a close second. There's also a bonus section, explaining (step-by-step) how to tune your new color TV. But that's not all! Filling out the page count is a listing of FM radio stations in the US & Canada, with asterisks indicating "stations now or soon broadcasting Stereo multiplex." Yes, WFMU and KFJC (88.5 back then) are listed, but only in mono. checking the specs to be sure my hi-fi isn't too "extreme", m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Jimmy's Easy" 5/2/98 Date: 03 May 1998 17:08:52 EDT "Jimmy's Easy" airs on WMBR-FM, Cambridge Saturdays 6-8 am -----Billy Taylor Orchestra-David Frost Theme----- Gentle People-Soundtrack of Life-their CD Enoch Lite-Walk On By-from "Spaced Out" LP Sounds Orchestral-Soul Coaxing-Sequel Les Baxter-Tropicando-Scamp Roy Budd-Hurry To Me-UK Import Xavier Cugat-Gesundheit-RCA 7" Brown Brothers of Soul-Cholo-from "Soul Cargo" (Brussells) Barry Gray Orchestra-Captain Scarlet-Thunderthemes Are Go! Ennio Morricone-Svolta Definitiva-from More Mondo Morricone Barry Gray Orchestra-Sting Ray-Thunderthemes Are Go! CD -Bernard Gerard-Le Crocodile Porte-Stereo Ultra (Big Cheese) -James Taylor Quartet-Theme from Dirty Harry-JTQ CD -Curtis Mayfield-Freddies Dead (instro)-Rhino Superfly CD -Ken Thorne-Lindt Vans-Mood Mosaic #4 CD -Henry Mancini-Mambo Parisienne-Martinis With Mancini CD -Serge Gainsbourg-Cha Cha Cha Du Loup-CD on Mercury -Alan Lorber-Mais Que Nada -Chris Montez-Because Of You-from A&M "Forget-Me-Not" 45 Brigitte Bardot/Serge Gainsbourg-Bonnie & Clyde-Bubblegum Peter Thomas-Caught At Midnight-Scamp Futurmuzik CD Resonance-OK Chicago-StereoUltra CD on Big Cheese(slammin) Peter Thomas-Traitors-Scamp Futurmuzik CD Lalo Schifrin-Enter The Dragon-Japanese Import SoundtrackCD Enoch Lite-Bond Street-Spaced Out LP Sweden Heaven & Hell-You Tried To Warn Me-vocal Ray Anthony-Samba D'Orfeu-Ultra Lound "BossaNovaVille" CD Ron Granier-A Man In A Suitcase Metropolis-I Love New York-12" disc of tourism commercial -Piero Piccione-Abigaille-WHO IS THIS GUY PIERO ANYWAY??? -Johnny Keating-Theme From Sam Benedict-Sequel -Donald Austin-Pea Shooter-Soul Cargo 4 CD from Bar Records -Stelvio Cipriani-La Fine De Cobb-Easy Tempo -Hugo Montenegro-Theme From The Fox-Best of Double LP -K-Taro-Sweden Heaven & Hell (request) -Pizzicato 5-Its a Beautiful Day-Happy End Of The World CD -Fifth Dimension-Workin' On A Groovy Thing-Arista Double CD -Petula Clark-British Coca Cola Commercial-Coke CD -Don Tiki-An Occasional Man (a listener claimed to have the Jeri Southern original on original vinyl!) -----Lalo Schifrin-Jim On The Move----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taro HOSHIJIMA Subject: (exotica) Peter Thomas & P5 Date: 04 May 1998 06:28:14 +0900 Just adding my two yen to Peter Thomas thread... Last week's "Ready-Made FM" (weekly radio program on Tokyo-FM hosted by none other than Pizzicato 5) guested Yan Tomita, who was promoting his new CD (actually a set of three CDs + one CD-ROM). And there was a conversation between Konishi Yasuharu and Yan Tomita like this (originally in Japanese): Konishi: "You talk about your music like an evangelist. It reminds me of Peter Thomas I met in Germany... He is a composer...over 70-year old." Yan: "That just means I'm an old man...lol." Btw, short excerpts from Yan's new release (incorporating some brain waves turned into musical scales, he said) played there sounded to me like an acid house/dub mix of Eno's airport music ;-) Taro HOSHIJIMA email: wy9t-hsjm@asahi-net.or.jp alias: htaro@cool.email.ne.jp (forwarded to the above address) http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~wy9t-hsjm/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) reference books Date: 03 May 1998 23:24:19 -0400 (EDT) At 02:16 AM 5/3/98 -0400, Br. Cleve wrote: >At 3:42 PM -0400 5/2/98, Lou Smith wrote: >>So, what other publications do y'all find essential? > >Lou, that's a beautiful list. I'd be honored to sit in your library some day. Next time you're in Brooklyn! Actually, I was thinking of you and the sort of reference material you seem to have handy when I came up with the thread idea. > >I keep 99% of those (don't have the Toop, must add it) plus a few more - > >The Album Cover Art Of Soundtracks, ed. by Frank Jastfelder and Stefan Kassel >Album Covers From The Vinyl Junkyard, Booth-Cliburn Editions Do you know if these above two books are still available? If they're on your list they must be worth seeking out. --Librarian Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pea Hicks Subject: Re: (exotica) reference books Date: 03 May 1998 20:26:40 -0700 Lou Smith wrote: > > >The Album Cover Art Of Soundtracks, ed. by Frank Jastfelder and Stefan Kassel > >Album Covers From The Vinyl Junkyard, Booth-Cliburn Editions > > Do you know if these above two books are still available? If they're on your > list they must be worth seeking out. i just got a copy of the Vinyl Junkyard one for xmas...... it's a relatively new book, i think- try looking for it at Tower..... :)pea # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Hollywood Hi-Fi Date: 03 May 1998 23:48:03 -0400 (EDT) At 09:02 AM 5/3/98 PDT, Keir Keightley wrote: > >>Hollywood Hi-Fi by those 2 guys whose names I can't remember > >Lou, don't know this one, tell me more please. > >I'd also add Joel Whitburn's Pop Memories, 1896-1954 and an older >version of his Billboard LP book that covers 1946-71, as well as his >book of Easy Listening charts. There's also a new book called Vinyl >Junkyard that I got in the UK that's useful. Hollywood Hi-Fi is, like Incredibly Strange Music and Ocean of Sound, a book/CD combo. "Those 2 guys" are George Gimarc & Pat Reeder. The book (1995) was published by St. Martin's, and the CD (1996) was released by Brunswick. Basically, the set is in the Golden Throats/Goldmine's Celebrity Vocals camp. The book contains over 100 celebrity recordings, described in a now typical Medved 'Golden Turkey' style. You can go to this official site to find out more: The CD is a fairly good selection of 18 cuts. The key cut for me is Anthony Quinn's What Is Love? Also included are Bette Davis, Robert Michum, Ted Cassidy, Racquel Welch, Joe Pesci, Jayne Mansfield, Joe E. Ross, Jack Larson, JFK, Jerry Mathers, Danny Bonaduce, Brady Bunch, Sissy Spacek, Mamie Van Doren & June Wilkerson, Steve Allen, Dennis Weaver, and Joey Bishop. --Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Subject: (exotica) More cool s*** you NEED to know Date: 03 May 1998 22:22:42 -0700 Did I tell you guys this already ? Ferrante and Teicher: Sound-PROOF in STEREO has the SAME TITLES AS Sound-BLAST in Mono. Sound-PROOF in Mono have DIFFERENT TITLES than EITHER RECORD with the SAME COVER as Sound-BLAST It just makes my fuckin brain spin and I always HATE GOING THROUGH THAT BUT CAN NEVER REMEMBER IT! IT'S TOOOOOOOOOOOO WEIRD!!! So it's important to have BOTH the Mono and Stereo "Soundproof" LP's as well as Sound-BLAST if only for the cover, cause it's totally cheesy "toy like" outer space and different than the other release anyway. I don't think Soundblast came out in Stereo with THAT ALBUM TITLE Also, originally released as a 10" LP "XMAS HI FIVORIES" was their very 1st LP of Prepared Piano works, dated 1954 ( I think), I'm not going to go look. RE-RELEASED as a 12" LP called "Adventures in Carols" Damn! Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: Re: (exotica) Ray McVay Date: 04 May 1998 10:32:15 +0100 > Charles Moseley wrote: > > > Can anyone tell me if 'We Got Soul' by Ray McVay's Big Band Sound is worth > > getting hold of. Featuring 'soul' classics: Soul Man, 25 Miles, Knock on > > Wood and Soul Finger, its got a funky cover with some groovy 60s chicks out > > on the razz in swinging 60s London. > > > > Hot or Not? > > From: Wayne & Tony > > Given that cover how could you resist! > > Everything I've heard by Ray McVay and His Funky Trumpet has been fab. > > Buy it I say! > Ahem. I think you're getting a bit muddled between the funky dress sense of Ray Davies (and his Button Down Brass/Funky Trumpet) and the funky moustache sense of Ray McVay. McVay's albums are, for the most part, dreadful ballroom dancing schplurnge, with perhaps a certain vomitarious value (e.g. "Two Little Boys" as a, um, ?, foxtrot). However, he occasionally pops out a monster, such as "The Ray McVay Roadshow" -- you can hear "2001" from this on the In Flight 2 compilation. That's good cheesy funkoid, and if the album mentioned is up to that level, *I'd* definitely be well chuffed to own it. Davies albums are often fairly uninteresting, I think, but with occasional moments of surprising, complete and somewhat worrying musical psychosis (e.g. motorized version of "Green Grow The Rushes O" complete with bird chorus ending). My tuppence worth. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Ray McVay Date: 04 May 1998 06:03:33 -0600 >McVay's albums are, for the most part, dreadful ballroom dancing >schplurnge, with perhaps a certain vomitarious value (e.g. "Two Little >Boys" as a, um, ?, foxtrot). However, he occasionally pops out a >monster, such as "The Ray McVay Roadshow" -- you can hear "2001" from >this on the In Flight 2 compilation. That's good cheesy funkoid, and >if the album mentioned is up to that level, *I'd* definitely be well >chuffed to own it. True, McVay is often a let down, but... > >Davies albums are often fairly uninteresting, I think, but with >occasional moments of surprising, complete and somewhat worrying >musical psychosis (e.g. motorized version of "Green Grow The Rushes O" >complete with bird chorus ending). Davies usually is a bit more swinging. He definitely has one or two albums worth getting - although I don't have them so don't have the titles in front of me, but friends have played me some stuff of Davies that has made me think "ooh...ahhh", and those who know Mingo-go knows that there isn't much that I would actually buy! > >My tuppence worth. Ditto for me. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Test Card Classics Date: 04 May 1998 11:44:49 -0500 I've just noticed two English imports: 1) Test Card Classics - The Girl The Doll The Music (Flyback/Chandos 1996) 2) Test Card Classics - Big Band Width (Flyback/Chandos 1997) These appear to be previously unreleased Light/Production music pieces originally broadcast by the BBC during TV downtime. I can't determine the performers from the CD packaging, except for that the first disc seems to contain the only two Roger Roger original performances now available on CD (please correct me if I'm wrong). Anyone familiar with these discs and care to recommend for/against them? --Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Shag Gallery Date: 04 May 1998 13:15:19 -0400 Here's an online gallery of paintings you may like -- by Shag (Josh Agle): http://www.laluzdejesus.com/SHAG/ShagShow1.html It's left over from a show earlier this year at La Luz de Jesus Gallery out in LA. I should try to remember to check this site more often. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Looking for Exotica Mp3's Date: 04 May 1998 14:39:24 +0200 what are "MP3's"? Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be --- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: (exotica) Test Card Classics Date: 04 May 1998 18:16:35 +0100 Lou Smith wrote: > > I've just noticed two English imports: > > 1) Test Card Classics - The Girl The Doll The Music (Flyback/Chandos 1996) > 2) Test Card Classics - Big Band Width (Flyback/Chandos 1997) > > These appear to be previously unreleased Light/Production music pieces > originally broadcast by the BBC during TV downtime. I can't determine the > performers from the CD packaging, except for that the first disc seems to > contain the only two Roger Roger original performances now available on CD > (please correct me if I'm wrong). > > Anyone familiar with these discs and care to recommend for/against them? > You might want to have a look at "The Test Card Circle": http://www.meldrum.co.uk/mhp/index.html Which has some ramblings by the compiler of these two discs, giving artist details, etc., might be a tad Brit-o-centric. Also discussion of other test card music releases. There's also some RealAudio of test card music in there (can't play that myself). BTW, I've got Vol. 1, and I like it a lot, but this might well just be simply nostalgia value for that style of music; hypnotism by the girl and the doll... generally very smooth and laid back. Vol. 1 does have Roger Roger, also Syd Dale and Alan Moorhouse if I remember right. I don't play it too often. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) GARY MOSCHELES (NEW Exotica???) Date: 03 May 1998 23:34:05 -0400 (EDT) At 12:52 PM 5/3/98 +0100, Kenny B. wrote: >....it wouldn't surprise me at all if JJ >Perrey's forthcoming album will fit perfectly in with today's >electronica/ambient/whateveryouchoosetocallit! Jack Diamond, you had heard >it, right? What would you say, comparing it to the latest modern >electronica? Um, didn't Jack say he only had time to post here but didn't have time to subscribe to or read the list? In other words, the communication is one-way at this point, until he decides to re-join fully. So, I wouldn't expect a response unless you e-mailed him directly. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: GARY MOSCHELES (NEW Exotica???) Date: 04 May 1998 00:52:08 PDT >>GARY MOSCHELES >>"Shaped to make your Life easier" Johan wrote: >i've had a chance to listen to that one, but to me it sounded >like 99% techno + 1 % "exotic"... but i have to add that i rather >hate techno and all that modern bonkaboonkabook stuff ;-) While I would still classify it as "modern bonkaboonkabook," :) his u-Ziq album "Urmur Bile Trax Volume One Volume Two" has a fair amount of Perrey/Kingsley-sounding samples and thus _might_ appeal to moog etc. fans. Then there's also Luke Vibert, who samples "Psyche Rock" (Henry & Colombier) and a bunch of people talking about space exploration, among other things. Mr. Vibert also records drum-and-bassy stuff under the name Plug. Both of these records are sample-heavy but neither borrows as much from the exotica-genres as something like Tipsy. For those who like the new-school bonkaboonkabook etc. as well as the old-school it borrows from (like me), I would recommend both. Jordana Robinson eero67@geocities.com www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: Re: (exotica) reference books Date: 04 May 1998 00:59:59 PDT Lou Smith wrote: >And magazines including: >Cannot Become Obsolete, Cool & Strange Music!, Exotica/Etc., Thrift Score >and Tiki News. > >So, what other publications do y'all find essential? Besides the ones above, a couple of related zines I like are Easy Listener and Mystery Date. I also like having some back issues of Grand Royal (like the one with a feature on the history of electronic music), but that's a very spotty magazine. Jordana Robinson eero67@geocities.com www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: GARY MOSCHELES (NEW Exotica???) Date: 04 May 1998 01:23:05 PDT Kenny Brockelstein wrote: >It's in the same tradition, only that MOM has access to >a lot of modern technology.....it wouldn't surprise me >at all if JJ Perrey's forthcoming album will fit perfectly >in with today's electronica/ambient/whateveryouchoosetocallit! >Jack Diamond, you had heard it, right? What would you say, >comparing it to the latest modern electronica? Well... a)I'm not Jack Diamond b)I haven't heard the new Perrey album but... I have heard a track he did with Air on last year's Sourcelab 3 compilation. It pretty much sounds like Air, but more bouncy and techno than they usually are, so one would think that the bouncy techno-ness might be due to Mr. Perrey's contribution to the collaboration. When is that Perrey album coming out? Jack? Someone? Jordana Robinson eero67@geocities.com www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Russo" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ray McVay Date: 04 May 1998 10:13:08 -0700 -----Original Message----- Jill wrote: >[Ray] Davies usually is a bit more swinging. He definitely has one or two albums >worth getting - although I don't have them so don't have the titles in front >of me, but friends have played me some stuff of Davies that has made me >think "ooh...ahhh" I always ooh and ahhh when I listen to his album "Firedog!" Incredibly hip, rockin' versions of POLICE STORY, HAWAII FIVE-0, POLICE WOMAN, ROCKFORD FILES, McCLOUD, KOJAK, COLUMBO and more. The best cut is Davies' own composition, title track "Firedog!" In best 70s urban style, it seems to be his frustrated bid to score TV cop shows. To my knowledge the album hasn't been re-issued. The original is on DJM/Pye. Grab it if you see it! C "Ratso" Russo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steven Peterson" Subject: (exotica) Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 18:43:21 -0500 Date: 04 May 1998 16:49:36 -0600 Has anyone heard the Arthur Lyman cds, " Sonic Sixties " or " Taboo II " ? Any reviews welcome. Steve: speterso@isoa.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elisabeth Vincentelli Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: GARY MOSCHELES (NEW Exotica???) Date: 04 May 1998 21:46:01 -0400 RE: JJ Perrey's new material. I have an album he recorded in collaboration with a young French guy named David Chazam. It's called _Eclectronics_ and it's rather good--very much in the current French lite electronics school but with Perrey's trademark sonic jokes, if you see what I mean. Chazam also has a solo album called _Eclectryhms_. Both are on the Basenotic label out of Paris. I don't know much about these releases and if they're readily available or not. A French friend told me that Perrey and Air have been working on a full-length album. I guess that should get a lot of publicity when it comes out, as Air have a higher profile than Chazam. There's actually another Perrey collaboration on _SourceLab 3_: Le Tone's "Jean-Jacques & les dauphins." ("Jean-Jacques & the Dolphins"--Perrey studied dolphins before turning to music.) Elisabeth _____________________________________ "So the Greenwich Villager sets out to amuse herself. It's sordid and hard, but it must be done." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jbtwist Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Looking for Exotica Mp3's Date: 04 May 1998 22:14:02 EDT I just discovered these this weekend so bear with me. MP3's are wav files compressed into MPEG format, kinda like Real Audio but apparently better fidelity(I noticed some distortion at times). You need shareware called WinAmp to play them,and apparently it also converts wav files to the smaller compressed MP3 files. There are a million web sites to FTP the latest "hits" , like the exotic Celine Dion, but apparently record companies dont like em at all and shut em down pronto. There are a few newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.1950s.MP3 and others for 60's, 70's 80's and 90's, where people post files. The 50's have doo wop and obscure stuff. Found Linda Laurie's weird tune "Ambrose" there, a Zacherle song, Wynonie Harris, "Kung Fu Fighting", plus "The Long Ships" by 3 Suns arranger Charles Albertine ?(borrr-ing) The 60's or 70's group had all 4 sides of Lou Reed's 'Metal Machine Music, which I'd never heard before. Interesting, but OUCH! Make sure you have a cable modem and a 10 gig hard drive or a zip or jazz drive. Even compressed the files are big, like a Jenna Jameson video clip. Looks like a little less than a meg per minute. The legality of all this stuff is outside my area of expertise. JB Twist - btw yesterday was Godfather James Brown's 65 birthday, the HARDEST workin man in show business !!!!!!!!!!!!!! KFJC did 12 hours of him. "And you can bet, you havent seen nothin yet, until you've seen me do...the James Brown. OWWWW!!!!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: (exotica) More Hollywood Hi-Fi Date: 04 May 1998 22:14:18 -0700 Regarding Hollywood Hi fi, there is a cut on that disc: Mamie Van Doren & June Wilkinson - Bikini with no top on top that has no information on the original YEAR of release in the booklet. It mentions the year for every other song but that one. I've researched on the net and at the library, but I've come up empty handed. Does anyone know? Thanks - Dave... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) 2525 Date: 05 May 1998 12:57:19 +0000 "In the Year 2525" by Zager & Evans is still one of the most bizarre, strange and, if you like, exotic ("strikingly or excitingly different or unusual") pop songs of all times to me. I don't know much about it, though. It kind of plays in the same league as "The House of the Rising Sun", if you know what I mean... I have 3 basic questions to ask to the list: 1. Can somebody supply me with the lyrics, that I never seemed to understand right. Or did I and just couldn't believe what I heard? 2. Cover-versions: I heard just one so far and don't even know who did it. 3. What became of Zager & Evans; who are they, resp. what else did they do? Any albums? I'd appreciate every bit of info someone could give me! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: (exotica) Charles Randolph Grean Sounde Date: 05 May 1998 06:53:06 PDT Has anyone got any information on this guy - when he was recording, with whom, etc.? I have a single of the "Theme to Star Trek", which is great fun - fuzzed out psych-sploitative guitars and what sounds like prepared piano. There is a brief reference in one of the ISM volumes, but not enough to determine whether it would be worth looking around for more Grean Sounde output. regards, waugh ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) 2525 Date: 05 May 1998 11:27:56 -0500 At 12:57 PM 5/5/98 +0000, Moritz wrote: >I have 3 basic questions to ask to the list: =20 >1. Can somebody supply me with the lyrics, that I never seemed to >understand right. Or did I and just couldn't believe what I heard? In The Year 2525 (Exordium And Terminus) written by Richard S. "Rick" Evans In the year 2525, If man is still alive, If woman can survive, They may find- In the year 3535 Ain't gonna need to tell the truth, Tell no lies. Everything you think, do, and say Is in the pill you took today. In the year 4545 Ain't gonna need your teeth, Won't need your eyes. You won't find a thing to chew, Nobody's gonna look at you. In the year 5555 Your arms are hanging limp at your side, You legs got nothing to do, Some machine's doing that for you. In the year 6565 Ain't gonna need no husband, Won't need no wife. You'll pick your sons, pick your daughters too From the bottom of a long glass tube. Whoa-oh-oh. In the year 7510 If God's a-coming He ought to make it by then. Maybe he'll look around himself and say, "Guess it's time for the Judgement Day." In the year 8510 God is gonna shake his mighty head. He'll either say, "I'm pleased where man has been" Or tear it down and start again. Whoa-oh-oh In the year 9595 I'm kinda wondering If man is gonna be alive; He's taken everything this old Earth can give And he ain't put back nothing. Now it's been ten thousand years, Man has cried a billion tears For what he never knew. Now man's reign is through. But through eternal night, The twinkling of starlight, So very far away, Maybe it's only yesterday... In the year 2525 (etc...) >2. Cover-versions: I heard just one so far and don't even know who did >it. There's an orchestral pop cover on Raymond LeFevre's "Oh Happy Day" and I think Lawrence Welk covers it also (on "Jean"??). There must be others as= well. > >3. What became of Zager & Evans; who are they, resp. what else did they >do? Any albums? Formed=A01968 in Lincoln, NE 1969 Early Writing of Zager & Evans White Whale 1969 In the Year 2525 RCA 1969 2525 (Exordium & Terminus) RCA 1970 Zager & Evans RCA 1971 Food for the Mind Vanguard Well, you asked. Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: (exotica) Re: arthur lyman Date: 04 May 1998 23:24:27 PDT >Has anyone heard the Arthur Lyman cds, " Sonic Sixties " or " Taboo II " ? >Any reviews welcome. Mr. Lyman is better-known for his exotica stuff (meaning more along bird-noises-and-vibraphones lines), but Sonic Sixties is pretty much easy listening, with pleasant vibey versions of 60s pop hits. I liked having it around when I was doing the radio show, but I probably wouldn't listen to it much if I owned it - it's not too crazy, mellow, pretty and nice. I haven't heard Taboo II, but given the lengthy discussion a while back about whether or not Mr. Lyman is any good, I'm sure someone else has an opinion. Jordana Robinson eero67@geocities.com www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Russo" Subject: Re: (exotica) 2525 Date: 05 May 1998 08:27:04 -0700 -----Original Message----- >Cover-versions: I heard just one so far and don't even know who did >it. Laibach released a pretty scary version of 2525 a few years ago. C. "Ratso" Russo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Russo" Subject: Re: (exotica) Charles Randolph Grean Sounde Date: 05 May 1998 08:20:11 -0700 -----Original Message----- Ben asks: >Has anyone got any information on [Charles Randolph Grean]- when he was recording, with >whom, etc.? >From the liners of "Dark Shadows: The 30th Anniversary Collection" (Varese Sarabande): "Veteran record producer Charles Randolph Grean approached Dan Curtis Productions (the producer of 'Dark Shadows') in early 1969 with the idea of recording his own version of 'Quentin's Theme,' a selection which had recently been introduced on 'Dark Shadows.' Grean had heard the song after watching the show with his 16-year-old daughter, Lorin, who had previously turned her father on to another cult favorite, 'Star Trek.' As a result, Grean had produced an album with one of that series' stars, Leonard Nimoy." Greane's contributions to the Varese disc are the grooviest of all! With theremin, if I remember right. C. "Ratso" Russo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Watch out for Saturn records Date: 05 May 1998 08:43:44 PDT I feel its time to post a warning. I ordered some LPs and a 78 set from a shop called "Saturn Records" (http://www.saturnrecords.com) on the internet at the end of January, and recieved the package some weeks ago. Unfourtunately all the 78s were crashed, due to uncareful packaging (they hadnt made any effort at all of making it arrive safely) and one of the LPs (Dennys Forbidden Island)had lots of scratches on both sides, which was strange because there grade was M-. When I complained about this they offered me the money back on the 78 set (and an additional 15% refund on my order) but wanted to see the LP before they could decide to give a refund on that. That would have costed me another $10-15, so I didnt send it to them. The irritating thing is that I have to buy from them again to get my money back, which I dont feel like at all, partly because I want to be sure to get records in a really good condition, and partly because the package I got was meant to arrive after a week (by airmail) but was delayed more than 2½ month, and I had to pay swedish custom charges at the post office to get them out. A ridiculous sum of about $40! I have had this problem once before, and specifically told Saturn Records that they had to write a smaller amount on my package than the actual value and also declare the package as a "gift" so the customs people wouldnt bother. Saturn record didnt do that... Stupid as I am I ordered from them again in february, with the same specifications, and that package is still floating around somewhere, and destined to cost me another $40!! And maybe LPs in a poor condition too. Another part of my irritation is there policy of not answering on emailed questions. They have some wonderful rare records and a goodlooking website so you would expect them to take their buisness a little more serious. My advice to You is to stay away from Saturn Records. I know I will. I am aware that they tried to come to a solution, and try to help me, so it could be worse. The problem is I dont trust their judgement anymore. Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike clifford Subject: (exotica) Rat Pack/ onion Date: 05 May 1998 09:51:30 -0600 It's not exactly exotic, but we all know the works of Frank, Dean, Sammy and the rest have strong connections to the exotica/ cocktail scene. Why is the Rat Pack so popular? You can get a typically sarcastic and satirical answer to that question at http://www.theonion.com/onion3316/infograph_3316.html I thought people on this list might be interested and be able to take it with a sense of humor. mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MUV96TBD@Student2.lu.se (Kenny Brockelstein) Subject: Re: (exotica) GARY MOSCHELES (NEW Exotica???) Date: 05 May 1998 18:17:41 +0100 >Um, didn't Jack say he only had time to post here but didn't have time to >subscribe to or read the list? In other words, the communication is one-way >at this point, until he decides to re-join fully. So, I wouldn't expect a >response unless you e-mailed him directly. ....and what is his email address?? Kenny Brockelstein # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Turner Subject: Re: (exotica) GARY MOSCHELES (NEW Exotica???) Date: 05 May 1998 09:46:21 -0700 (PDT) > > > >Um, didn't Jack say he only had time to post here but didn't have time to > >subscribe to or read the list? In other words, the communication is one-way > >at this point, until he decides to re-join fully. So, I wouldn't expect a > >response unless you e-mailed him directly. > > ....and what is his email address?? > jack@jackdiamond.com -- Mark Turner | "Slow Train to Dawn" with Rocky Rococo mturner@netcom.com | Sundays 3-7AM, 89.7 KFJC, Los Altos Hills, CA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: GARY MOSCHELES (NEW Exotica) Date: 05 May 1998 13:26:51 +0200 I wrote: >> i've had a chance to listen to that one, but to me it sounded >> like 99% techno + 1 % "exotic"... but i have to add that i >> rather hate techno and all that modern bonkaboonkabook stuff ;-) At 23:05 +0000 98/05/03, Moritz R replied: >I don't like techno either but can't agree on your review. especially >because techno isn't so sample-based. well, i don't _know_ anything about techno , so i can't tell if something is techno or something else... it sounded just too experimental, industrial and weird for me. >Maybe you are amongst those who didn't like Tipsy either, i LOVE tipsy. in the beginning i wasn't exactly wild about them, but after listening several times, i began to appreciate, and later on love their music... Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be --- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee Subject: Re: (exotica) 2525 Date: 05 May 1998 13:25:39 EDT Zager & Evans-While Roy's Away-LP 802-B Zager & Evans-Trigger Happy ("Un" Stuff)-LP 921-F Zager & Evans-Have You Met Mr. Novak?-LP 1076-AA Single released followup to 2525: Zager has a Lager, Evans in Heaven that's all I have on them~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmperl@juno.com (Jonathan M Perl) Subject: (exotica) Essential reading Date: 05 May 1998 13:33:37 -0400 >The Album Cover Art Of Soundtracks, ed. by Frank Jastfelder and Stefan Kassel I also enjoyed this one very much - the large format is perfect because lots of the album covers are actually real size reproductions. I would like to add Film Posters of the 60s, by Tony Nourmand and Graham Marsh. London: Aurum Press, 1997; New York: Overlook Press, 1998. This is particularly interesting to look at in conjunction with the Album cover art book, as it has reproductions of posters of the same kinds of films, including many comparisons of posters from different countries. In particular, the Japanese posters, such as the one for 'the umbrellas of cherbourg' are fascinating. There is a cover scan of the book here: http://www.mcs.net/~klast/www/bks_film.html#posters regards Jonny P.S. Lou - Good thread! _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Keane Subject: Re: (exotica) 2525 Date: 05 May 1998 13:27:57 -0500 (CDT) On Tue, 5 May 1998, Moritz R wrote: > > "In the Year 2525" by Zager & Evans is still one of the most bizarre, > strange and, if you like, exotic ("strikingly or excitingly different or > unusual") pop songs of all times to me. > I don't know much about it, though. It kind of plays in the same league > as "The House of the Rising Sun", if you know what I mean... I don't know how exotic it is. It used to give me the creeps when I was a little kid, but it wasn't long before I realized that a brave new world in which everything just so happens to rhyme with "five" would not be likely. Still, the thought of having to subsist on a diet of chives and endive gives me the shudders. Fans of cringeworthy music ought to check out the b-side, though- one of the worst songs ever - "Mr. Turnkey", the sympathetic tale of a man who, having been convicted of rape, attempts suicide by nailing *one* wrist to the wall of his prison cell. Our would-be half-Christ, over a pious protest-folk backing, laments that his predicament is not entirely his fault: "she led me on. she knew she wasn't gonna let me love her." > 3. What became of Zager & Evans; who are they, resp. what else did they > do? Any albums? > I believe they were from Lincoln, Nebraska, where I lived for several years. I know someone who took guitar lessons from Danny Zager. She said he was "a dork". I would imagine so... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: Re: (exotica) 2525 Date: 05 May 1998 19:49:15 +0100 > >"In the Year 2525" by Zager & Evans is still one of the most bizarre, >strange and, if you like, exotic ("strikingly or excitingly different or >unusual") pop songs of all times to me. > >What became of Zager & Evans; who are they Denny Zager and Rick Evans Evans is described as a Nebraskan, and Zager 'a fellow Cornhusker' (I guess that's a code for Nebraskan too, confirmation welcomed!) Evans is pictured at an interesting page http://bubblemouth.pathfinder.com/people/rock/onehit/rick.html and the text describes Zager & Evans' bad career move: Their manager passed on a chance to play Woodstock and instead booked them to open for Engelbert Humperdinck. Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Syd Lawrence Date: 05 May 1998 19:49:17 +0100 England May 5, 1998 Bandleader Syd Lawrence died today, age 74. Most of his bread- and-butter work was as leader of a studio orchestra in TV variety shows (Les Dawson etc.), but he also toured with a Glen Miller soundalike band. HP # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Essential reading Date: 05 May 1998 16:47:05 -0500 At 01:33 PM 5/5/98 -0400, Jonathan M Perl wrote: >>The Album Cover Art Of Soundtracks, ed. by Frank Jastfelder and Stefan >Kassel >I also enjoyed this one very much - the large format is perfect because >lots of the album covers are actually real size reproductions. Didn't find this one at the store today, but I did find (and buy) one of those massive (1024 page) doorstop books that seem so popular today: VideoHound's Soundtracks, edited by Didier Deutsch (who compiles soundtracks for Rhino and Sony), forward by Lukas Kendall (ed. of Film Score Monthly), $24.95, (1998) . The book reviews over 2,000 soundtracks, rates them on a 5 dog-bone scale (ha ha - i geddit), and includes a 15 cut CD of Hollywood Records soundtrack selections. Impulse purchase - I'll know if it was worth it in a few days when I've had a chance to browse. UK magazine Gramophone also has a soundtrack book available. --Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: Re: (exotica) Charles Randolph Grean Sounde Date: 05 May 1998 21:58:41 +0100 Ben Waugh asked >Has anyone got any information on this guy - when he was recording, with >whom, etc.? I have a Ranwood LP (R8075, dated 1970) by this guy, which is - covers of hits - covers of TV themes (Dark Shadows, Marcus Welby) - classical tunes modernised (a la Waldo de los Rios) Standout track is his "Peter and the wolf". The album sleeve lists Grean's CV, which includes - Phil Harris - The Thing (composer/lyricist) - Leonard Nimoy - Mr Spock's music from outer space (A&R) - Jim Lowe - Green door (producer) plus a whole lot of other 1950's stuff. Was Grean a shareholder in Ranwood? Did he produce the recently discussed Exotic Guitars album on Ranwood? He is still around, and according to the web, was due to guest at a Dark Shadows fest last August. Also, Carl Russo's post mentions his daughter Lorin Grean - this lady has a folk album out on Silver Wave records, CA. Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Looking for Exotica Mp3's Date: 05 May 1998 14:49:35 +0000 Johan Dada Vis wrote: > > what are "MP3's"? > Johan! I'm suprised! Being as astute as you are, I thought that your reply was going to contain a WEALTH of sources to find MPEG layer III (MP3) files. MPEG Layer III refers to a compression scheme devised to shrink the size of audio files for storage and transmission. There are quite a few of these schemes but MP3's seem to be the most commonly used. I'm not really hip to the specs, but I think the compression ratio is around 10:1 and *reportedly* is virtually transparent to the ear. I'm rather doubtful the performance could be that good. I understand that the 'net is LOUSY with MP3 sites where one can obtain MP3 compressed sound files of songs, etc. I have been to one - Nordic Music (no URL on file) Files can be sampled and purchased for 25 cents to $1.00. I've been meaning to try it just for kicks, but you need some kind of Cyberbank account opened with a credit card, and I DO NOT SEND MY CC# over the net! I've been BURNED big time. They have some interesting stuff as I remember, though. I hear there are free sites as well. Better get there before the lawyers move in. I probably should have saved myself (and you) the trouble and waited for someone like Pea to chime in. SOMEONE on this list will have the skinny. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clean@tamboo.com Subject: (exotica) Re: arthur lyman Date: 05 May 1998 17:20:39 -0500 (CDT) >I haven't heard Taboo II, but given the lengthy discussion a while back >about whether or not Mr. Lyman is any good, I'm sure someone else has an >opinion. Taboo 2 is excellent! one of my favorites by Lyman. git it sez me. - kini visit... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ King Kini's C L U B V E L V E T http://www.tamboo.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Benton Reed Subject: Re: (exotica) 2525 Date: 05 May 1998 18:24:18 -0400 The album, "Exordium and Terminus" is one of my all-time faves, although it's not all that exotic except for 2525 and maybe "In the Land of Green." I luv it so much that I have it on both vinyl and 8track. Moritz R wrote: > "In the Year 2525" by Zager & Evans is still one of the most bizarre, > strange and, if you like, exotic ("strikingly or excitingly different or > unusual") pop songs of all times to me. > I don't know much about it, though. It kind of plays in the same league > as "The House of the Rising Sun", if you know what I mean... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: the_curator Subject: (exotica) Kilgore Trout/chris trout Date: 05 May 1998 19:06:34 +0000 >I've been looking for Chris Trout stuff for a while and haven't had much >luck... >Today i found Kilgore Trout but it has no mention of Chris Trout... But it >does say written and produced by Kilgore Trout.... Anybody know if this >is the Chris Trout project or just something else..........??? CT now has a (rock) band called Bear who are about to realease an LP on Vespertine .... mail me off the list if you need more info ... Sem Sinatra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Watch out for Saturn records Date: 05 May 1998 19:33:22 +0000 At 08:43 AM 5/5/98 PDT, Magnus wrote: >I ordered some LPs and a 78 set from a shop called "Saturn Records"... >and recieved the package some weeks ago. Unfourtunately all the 78s were >crashed, due to uncareful packaging (they hadnt made any effort at all >of making it arrive safely) and one of the LPs (Dennys Forbidden >Island)had lots of scratches on both sides, which was strange because >there grade was M-. Sorry to hear that. I have been pleased with EVERYONE who I have dealt with so far on the internet...and the number is growing. Nauck's Records (www.78rpm.com) is most recent and THEY know how to pack. They sent me one small 10 inch transcription disk in a 5 inch thick box with double bubble wrapping and several cardboard layers. They could teach Saturn a thing or two. But what do you expect from aliens from another planet (a planet with rings even!). Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) 2525 Date: 06 May 1998 10:59:55 +0000 Thanks, Lou, Mark, Kerry, Hugh & Jimmy Bee! I think the Raymond Le Fevre's version might be the one that I heard. Have you seen any of those albums in second hand shops or flea markets? In Germany there is just plain nothing. >> I know someone who took guitar lessons from Danny Zager. She said he was "a dork". I would imagine so..<< a dork??? Couldn't find that in my dictionary. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Re: GARY MOSCHELES (NEW Exotica) Date: 06 May 1998 11:00:26 +0000 Johan Dada wrote: >>i LOVE tipsy. in the beginning i wasn't exactly wild about them, but after listening several times, i began to appreciate, and later on love their music...<< You should try exactely the same thing with Gary Moscheles! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) tapes Date: 06 May 1998 11:00:50 +0000 Does anybody know SMYLONYLON? It's tapes from a shop in N.Y.C. with all kinds of weird selections. They were the first "Easy Listening"-revival tapes that I know of. It's all totally illegal (no royalties, no rights to any author) but it's more like an honour to be on such a tape than a case for the lawyer... I wonder if it's possible to get them in Europe? MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Rat Pack/ onion Date: 06 May 1998 11:04:30 +0000 Friends of Sinatra-humour can check out the Frankieboy-homepage of my friend Stefan Stratil. It also has a brand new gallery-page with, (Uhumm!) some of my paintings... It IS exotica-related! There is a Tiki-painting. MO http://evolver.at/frankieboy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Essential reading Date: 06 May 1998 11:05:58 +0000 >>The Album Cover Art Of Soundtracks, ed. by Frank Jastfelder and Stefan >Kassel >I also enjoyed this one very much - the large format is perfect because >lots of the album covers are actually real size reproductions. >>Didn't find this one at the store today...<< Check the MARINA records homepage. There is also a Peter Thomas record to come out pretty soon.... http://www.marina.com MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) tapes Date: 06 May 1998 04:43:01 -0600 >Does anybody know SMYLONYLON? It's tapes from a shop in N.Y.C. with all >kinds of weird selections. They were the first "Easy Listening"-revival >tapes that I know of. It's all totally illegal (no royalties, no rights >to any author) but it's more like an honour to be on such a tape than a >case for the lawyer... I wonder if it's possible to get them in Europe? Yeah. They've been on the go for years in New York. It's kinda weird that there hasn't been more of a mention about them on this list. Last I heard, there tapes were going more disco. Still way out stuff though. One of the guys came to my gig in NYC a couple years ago, and he was very cool - forgotton him name, damn. I believe one of the guys is in Family of God - which has some good moments on it. Just released in Europe on OCHRE Records. I am looking forward to getting my own copy soon. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) How'd they do? How'd they do? How'd they do? (Bear with me) Date: 05 May 1998 06:57:33 -0400 This list is a good thing for people that want to talk about exotica, but since I was born in 1963, I have no historical perspective on the albums we discuss. I can, however, look at the Billboard chart positions of some of the people we discuss. The list is who I could think of that was listed in Joel Whitburn's Top Pop Albums book, 2nd edition. I don't own the book, so what I found out was done while some kids made more noise than I would like to hear in a library, so I forgot a couple of folks (Ferrante and Teicher, but they had 20-plus entries) some had a boatload of entries (Mancini had 39!). The book only goes back to 1955, so some things are beyond it's scope. If I listed some albums that aren't "exotica", well, I haven't heard all of the albums! The list ai not complete, is all I'm saying. Album - Chart position (year) Single - Chart position Baxter, Les Tamboo! - 6 (1956) Skins! - 21 (1957) Carroll, David (real name Nook Schrier) Let's Dance - 21 (1959) Dee, Lenny Dee-lightful - 11 (1955) Plantation Boogie - 19 Gentle on my Mind - 196 (1968) Denny, Martin Exotica! - 1 for 5 weeks! (1959) Quiet Village - 4 Quiet Village - 8 (1959) Martinique - 88 (1959) Exotica III (1959) (forgot the chart position!) A Taste of Honey - 6 (1962) Hawaii Tattoo - 123 (1965) Light, Enoch (25 entries; here are the tikilights) I Want to be Happy Cha Cha's - 38 (1959) I Want to be Happy Cha Cha - 46 Persuasive Percussion - 1 for 13 weeks! (1960) Provocative Percussion - 2 for 5 weeks (1960) Persuasive Percussion 2 - 3 (1960) Provocative Percussion 2 - 4 (1960) Persuasive Percussion 3 - 3 (1961) Stereo 35MM - 1 for 7 weeks! (1961) Persuasive Percussion 4 - 34 (1962) Big Band Bossa Nova - 8 (1962) Persuasive Percussion '66 - 144 (1966, easy to remember) Spaced Out - 191 (1970) Lyman, Arthur Taboo - 6 (1958) Taboo - 155 Yellow Bird - 10 (1961) Yellow Bird - 4 I Wish You Love - 36 (1963) Love for Sale - 43 Prado, Perez Prez - 22 (1959) Schory, Dick Music for Bang, Barroom and Harp - 11 (1959) Supercussion - 13 (1963) Sincerely Yours, Brian Phillips - 34 (1963) Brian Phillips http://www.mindspring.com/~hagar "Her JAW hung down by her KNEEheehehehees!" - from "Hot Skillet Mama" by Yochanon and Sun Ra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) tapes (SMYLONYLON) Date: 06 May 1998 13:16:23 +0000 >>One of the guys came to my gig in NYC a couple years ago<< You play in a band? Let's get outed! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "keir keightley" Subject: (exotica) Rat Pack Exotica Date: 06 May 1998 04:51:52 PDT The Rat Pack "not exactly exotic"?!?!? Listen to Frank and Billy May's "On the Road to Mandalay" (_Come Fly with Me_, Capitol 1958) - it's a friggin' fabulous gong-fest! From BossaNovaVille, Keir ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) reference books Date: 06 May 1998 06:01:34 PDT One of the books on my stereo shelf is A Guide to Electronic Music, by Paul Griffiths (Thames & Hudson, 1979; ISBN 0500272034). It is a small volume (127 pps), somewhat academic, but quite readable (not couched in jargon). It provides an interesting history of electronic music, discussing tape, the theremin, Robert Moog and the genesis and employment of synthesizers in various musical genres There is quite a bit of focus on composers such as Cage, Subotnick, Stockhausen and, to a lesser extent, rock musicians, but little to do with the pop of the day. The appendices include a nice list of composers and their recordings; each entry gives a brief description of the composer's style and history. bw ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: (exotica) James Bond Date: 06 May 1998 13:30:55 UT There's been some debate over on the Zorn list about who wrote the James Bond theme. Barry claims it's his, but it seems it was credited to some other guy (I forget the name). Does anyone here know the real deal? PeterR # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) James Bond Date: 06 May 1998 15:33:06 +0000 peter_risser@cinfin.com wrote: > There's been some debate over on the Zorn list about who wrote the James Bond > theme. Barry claims it's his, but it seems it was credited to some other guy (I > forget the name). Does anyone here know the real deal? > On my official United Artists album it says: Monty Norman John Barry arranged and conducted the music... MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: Re[2]: (exotica) Re: Looking for Exotica Mp3's Date: 06 May 1998 13:29:17 UT << MPEG Layer III refers to a compression scheme devised to shrink the size of audio files for storage and transmission. There are quite a few of these schemes but MP3's seem to be the most commonly used. I'm not really hip to the specs, but I think the compression ratio is around 10:1 and *reportedly* is virtually transparent to the ear. I'm rather doubtful the performance could be that good. >> The compression is about 10:1 (which comes to about a meg a minute) and yeah, it's virtually undetectable for most musics. The only place I've noticed break-up is on long sustained sounds, like dying piano chords. Other than that, I've never done a disc to MP3 comparison, but I imagine you lose some brightness, etc.etc. So, unless you're listening to Morton Feldman, you should be alright. There are lots of players, but my favorite is WinAmp, which is free, I think, at WinAmp.com. Then, you gotta scour FTP sites and spend your time banging up against user limits and ratios to get anything to hear. But with some persistence you can build up a library. I also make my own, which isn't too hard, and send them via Email to my friends, which is nice. I like to share. It's like making mix tapes, but one song at a time If you're really interested, set aside some time (and get a nice size line, they're big files) and do a search for MP3 Search or MP3 FTP Site. That should turn up search engines and site lists. But these sites are come and go, as they tend to be run by college kids and teenagers, and also, the big ones tend to get threatened with lawsuits by the RIAA. I've never found much Exotica, although once I found six cuts from the UL Crime Scene and some theme songs (Hawaii 5-0, Fat Albert, Mission Impossible). Mostly it's modern pop, techno and ska. So, if you're looking just for Exotica, it's probably not worth the effort, unless you connect with someone who wants to trade specifically. Anyway, that's what I know about that. PeterR # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NATHAN MINER Subject: Re: (exotica) James Bond -Reply Date: 06 May 1998 10:16:47 -0400 Who can recommend a good John Barry comp?....... - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tosh@loop.com (Tosh) Subject: Re: (exotica) James Bond -Reply Date: 06 May 1998 07:51:40 -0700 (PDT) >EMI released this great three volume set on the early years of John Barry. >To be honest I like his early work than the Bond stuff. His mixture of >the electric guitar and strings are really brilliant. His 'John Barry >Seven' is similar to the Shadows, but Barry's work is much more textural. ----------------- Tosh Berman TamTam Books ---------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Bennet" Subject: (exotica) Tina Louise Date: 06 May 1998 11:34:47 -0400 I understand that one of the Tina Louise LPs (or possibly a comp) is being reissued on CD. Is this worth searching for? Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: (exotica) smylonylon Date: 06 May 1998 06:28:54 PDT >Does anybody know SMYLONYLON? It's tapes from a shop in N.Y.C. with >all kinds of weird selections. They were the first "Easy Listening"- >revival tapes that I know of. It's all totally illegal (no royalties, >no rights to any author) but it's more like an honour to be on such a >tape than a case for the lawyer... I wonder if it's possible to get >them in Europe? What great tapes they are! I have three, including one from Arkle&Sparkle, their annex store a little further up the block. Great Euro-easy, with a lot of obscure electronic stuff. The Arkle&Sparkle tape I have leans a little more towards psych stuff, with more odd noises and sped-up-or-slowed-down strangeness. They charge something like 12 bucks a tape, but I don't know if you can get them without going to the stores themselves. I like the tapes better than the stores, which sell deadstock vintage clothes (in typical NYC style, everything seems to be in really tiny sizes and is expensive for what it is) in a rummage sale configuration - piles and racks stuffed overwhelmingly full, though Arkle&Sparkle has a nicer interior, with fake fur covering the walls and odd neon signs everwhere. Worth gawking at, certainly. They're not too far from Other Music, on the same street as Liquid Sky and X-Girl. Smylonylon has a lot of plastic toys and such cemented to their exterior walls. The people who run the stores also used to have parties at some nightspot, and had a hand in the Family of Man, which I don't know too much about. Jordana Robinson eero67@geocities.com www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: RE: (exotica) James Bond Date: 06 May 1998 10:26:19 -0400 It's credited to Monty Norman on all of the Bond films. Norman did the soundtrack to Dr. No. Or did he? > There's been some debate over on the Zorn list about who wrote > the James Bond > theme. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) 2525 - semantic extension Date: 06 May 1998 11:55:40 -0400 > a dork??? Couldn't find that in my dictionary. U.S. slang. Dork = phallus. Also applied to humans, with negative connotation. In my experience, roughly equivalent to "nerd", but minus the brainy aspects. A closer match might be the British "twit". Also used as an adjective: "dorky". A true-life example? Well, for my money, our former vice president, Danny Quayle, stands out as a real grand prize dork. (pardon my opinion) m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Earp Subject: (exotica) RE: James Bond Theme Date: 06 May 1998 11:03:06 -0600 Here's what it says from the newly acquired cd "The Best of James Bond/= 30th Anniversary Collection": "It was a Friday night phone call from Noel Rodgers, head of music at = United Artists, that put John Barry to work on the orchestration of Monty = Norman's two-minute composition that would become 'The James Bond theme' = for the 'Dr. No' soundtrack." It went to #13 on the UK charts, by the by. My name's Earp...Tim Earp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) tapes Date: 06 May 1998 18:43:38 +0000 Thanks for the offer. We can talk about it. Are you in Chicago? That'll be expensive for me. Anyway, I have to check my tape-copys to find which Vol.number they are. Btw: I saw an exhibition recentely in D=FCsseldorf that had all the bubbl= y 60s furniture that you seem to be interested in. Together with some fashion. They had a whole bar interior from Bolzano, Italy, everything entirely plastic and plexiglass... plus the UFO-sized house of Charles Wilp designed by Luigi Colani. Nice to look at but I wouldn't wanna live in it. Bamboo-MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) 2525 - semantic extension Date: 06 May 1998 09:51:51 PDT >> a dork??? Couldn't find that in my dictionary. > >U.S. slang. Dork = phallus. Could not find dork in my dict. I have a growing suspicion that at its etymological root is dirk (dagger).... One of these days I'm going to get my self genitally organizized, BW ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk) Subject: Re: (exotica) Rat Pack Exotica Date: 06 May 1998 09:26:49 -1000 >The Rat Pack "not exactly exotic"?!?!? > >Listen to Frank and Billy May's "On the Road to Mandalay" (_Come Fly >with Me_, Capitol 1958) - it's a friggin' fabulous gong-fest! Also try Frank and Billy's "Granada" and "Moonlight on the Ganges"... I think they're bonus tracks on the Reprise album Sinatra Swings (eary 60s)... Imagine "Mandalay" taken one step further and you've got an idea what these sound like! - Steve *** *** *** Steve Funk (sfunk@pop.adn.com) Anchorage, AK USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) smylonylon Date: 06 May 1998 11:46:12 -0600 >The people who run the stores also used to have parties at some >nightspot, and had a hand in the Family of Man, which I don't know too >much about. Actually, isn't this band FAMILY OF GOD? Which I already mentioned in my email that the guy is in that band. I dunno...maybe they used to be called Family of Man??? Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcus Kozica Subject: (exotica) smylonylon Date: 06 May 1998 18:44:45 +0200 Yes, but where is it. I've been walking up and down Lafayette 1000 of times and I haven't found it. People tell me that the actual store isn't called Smylonylon but something else (not Something Else though.) AND isn't it Family of God? Marcus. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SPECIAL AGENT J3274 Subject: (exotica) my crappy lounge Date: 06 May 1998 13:11:21 CDT any one on the list want a tape of my crappy lounge project titled THE CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ ORCHESTRA? It isn't quite finished yet but it should be in about a week or two. if you are interested, send me your address, and $2.00 (i have to pay for tapes and postage and $2 wont even cover that but I'm not looking to make a buck.) to this address NINTH STREET RECORDS C/O JASON TULLER 1211 9TH STREET DARDANELLE AR, 72834 YOU WILL ALSO RECIEVE A CATALOGUE. P.S. I assure you this tape will not live up to your expectations of wha t lounge should be but it is my first attempt. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) tapes (SMYLONYLON) Date: 06 May 1998 12:42:48 -0600 At 13:13 06/05/98 +0000, you wrote: >>>One of the guys came to my gig in NYC a couple years ago<< > >You play in a band? Let's get outed! I am a DJ. I think a lot of people on this list know this already - I didn't think it was a secret and I certainly don't mind being "outed". That is why I post my radio show playlists every week. And...on a person note, I think you and I have met before in Germany...I emailed you the other day MO, but you never got back to me about it. What gives?? Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod Subject: Re: (exotica) James Bond Date: 06 May 1998 15:50:48 EDT In a message dated 98-05-06 11:51:40 EDT, you write: << It's credited to Monty Norman on all of the Bond films. >> It is always credited separately from the sound track credits to Norman. This is noted in all the "official" Bond films. The Broccoli/Saltzman team were obviously required to make the credit to the original composer of the JB Theme. BTW, don't most of the newer (i.e. last 20 years) James Bond Movies suck? Geeze, even George Lazenby was better than the "blokes" we have today. Sorry Remington Steele and Dalton . . .just speaking my mind. Regards, Tiki "is that a Walther PPK in your pocket or are you just happy to see me" Bob. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) Charles Randolph Grean Sounde Date: 06 May 1998 13:18:33 PDT >Greane's contributions to the Varese disc are the grooviest of all! With >theremin, if I remember right. > >C. "Ratso" Russo Speaking of soundtracks and theremin, on TV's Greatest Hits (Mercury, 1976), the John Gregory orchestra uses a theremin on "Columbo" (I can't recall whether the original series soundtrack did or not). Other tracks include Cannon, The Rockford Files, Kojack, etc. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) The Warm Sound of Plas Johnson Date: 06 May 1998 15:19:51 +0000 This may be old news to most of you, but I just found "The Warm Sound of Plas Johnson" (Blue Moon 3060), a great CD featuring the saxophonist on Les Baxter's "Jungle Jazz" and "African Jazz", as well as Mancini's "The Pink Panther" and many other soundtracks. This comp features Plas in small group sessions with Emil Richards, Jimmy Bond, and others, plus several tracks from the smoky "Blue Martini" album (which has great "late night" feel), with John Neel's Orchestra. Check it out! Blue Moon is a Spanish label, and this apparently came out in 1996. Got mine at Dusty Groove America. Sorry if this old news! Darrell Brogdon Program Director KANU Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 dbrogdon@ukans.edu http://www.ukans.edu/~kanu-fm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. M." Subject: Re: Re[2]: (exotica) Re: Looking for Exotica Mp3's Date: 06 May 1998 13:23:14 PDT > >I've never found much Exotica, although once I found six cuts from the UL Crime >Scene and some theme songs (Hawaii 5-0, Fat Albert, Mission Impossible). Mostly >it's modern pop, techno and ska. So, if you're looking just for Exotica, it's >probably not worth the effort, unless you connect with someone who wants to >trade specifically. > Check out http://newmedia.slc.edu:3003 They've got MP3s by some interesting artists there, like Mort Garson (some sorta Satanic Mass played on the Moog, I think). ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: (exotica) Required reading digested Date: 06 May 1998 14:46:25 +0000 Lou Smith's post about reference material produced some great replies. I took the time to compile some of them so's I would have a ready reference. I'm posting this in the hopes that others will find it useful as well. This may not be a complete list of messages, apologies if I missed yours or one you were interested in. I check email from several locations and may have "stranded" a post or two on a remote computer. Lou Smith We talk mostly about records here on the group, but I'm wondering what reference books y'all keep on your bookshelf. I suppose most of us have and endorse Joseph Lanza's Elevator Music and both volumes of Re/Search's Incredibly Strange Music. Some other books on my shelves are: The Catalog of Cool, ed. by Gene Sculatti (1982) Goldmine's Celebrity Vocals by Ron Lofman (1994) Goldmine's Comedy Record Price Guide by Ronald L. Smith (1996) Hi-Fi's & Hi-Balls by Steven Guarnaccia & Bob Sloan (1997) Hollywood Hi-Fi by those 2 guys whose names I can't remember Ocean of Sound by David Toop (1995) Soundtrack: The Music Of The Movies by Mark Evans (1979) Thrift Score by Al Hoff, Girl Reporter (1997) TV's Biggest Hits by Jon Burlingame (1996) Ultra Lounge by Dylan Jones (1997) - yeah i what a rip off this one is... And magazines including: Cannot Become Obsolete, Cool & Strange Music!, Exotica/Etc., Thrift Score and Tiki News ====================================================== Hugh Petfield 1) Rock On! Illustrated Encyclopaedia of Rock and Roll (but covers other genres) - by Norm N. Nite 2) Billboard book of (USA) Top 40 hits 3) Guinness book of (UK) hit singles 4) Music Master CD catalog 5) The Name Game (real names + more) Glen Baker 6) Total Television 7) Billboard Music Guide (CD ROM) 8) Ivor Mairants' Dance Band chords (for guitar)(50's goodie) 9) Trade catalogs (list all UK releases except 78's from 1955-64) ====================================================== Br. Cleve The Album Cover Art Of Soundtracks, ed. by Frank Jastfelder and Stefan Kassel Cad, A Handbook For Heels , ed. by Charles Schneider Pin-up Mania, by Alan Betrock Album Covers From The Vinyl Junkyard, Booth-Cliburn Editions That's Blaxploitation, by Darius James A Girl and A Gun, by David N. Meyer ====================================================== Ingmar Breithel breithel@lund.mail.telia.com Yasushi Ide (ed.): In the Mood (1991) - before the era of websites with album cover scans, this was something to drool over: a wonderful book with photos of records by Baxter, Gleason, Riddle, Shearing, etc. David Meeker: Jazz in the Movies (1977) Roy Carr, Brian Case, and Fred Dellar: The Hip - Hipsters, Jazz, and the Beat Generation (1986) Ferguson & Johnson: Mainstream Jazz Reference and Price Guide 1949--1965 (1984) Robert Gordon: Jazz West Coast (1986) The Billboard Book of Brazilian Music (1991) - for the bossa nova content Hal David: What the World Needs Now and Other Love Lyrics (1968) - has interesting background info on the conception of some of this century's greatest songs (and a foreword by Dionne Warwick) Schwann catalogs - THE essential reference guides And, moving away from the music for a moment, for space age design and bachelor pad style, the following books are highly recommended: Gerd and Ursula Hatje: Design for Modern Living (1962) Cara Greenberg: Mid-Century Modern. Furniture of the 1950s (1984) Martin Eidelberg (ed.): Design 1935--1965. What Modern Was (1991) Lesley Jackson: The New Look. Design in the Fifties (1991) Lesley Jackson: Contemporary. Architecture and Interiors of the 1950s (1994) Mark Burns and Louis DiBonis: Fifties Homestyle. Popular Ornament of the USA (1988) Thomas Hine: Populuxe (1986) Alan Hess: Googie. Fifties Coffee Shop Architecture (ca 1990) Holly Wahlberg: Everyday Elegance: 1950s Plastics Design (1994). Sheila Steinberg and Kate E. Dorner: Fabulous Fifties: Designs for Modern Living ====================================================== Jordana Robinson eero67@hotmail.com Besides the ones above, a couple of related zines I like are Easy Listener and Mystery Date. I also like having some back issues of Grand Royal (like the one with a feature on the history of electronic music), but that's a very spotty magazine. Jordana Robinson eero67@geocities.com www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157 ====================================================== Ben Waugh kahuna77@hotmail.com One of the books on my stereo shelf is A Guide to Electronic Music, by Paul Griffiths (Thames & Hudson, 1979; ISBN 0500272034). It is a small volume (127 pps), somewhat academic, but quite readable (not couched in jargon). It provides an interesting history of electronic music, discussing tape, the theremin, Robert Moog and the genesis and employment of synthesizers in various musical genres There is quite a bit of focus on composers such as Cage, Subotnick, Stockhausen and, to a lesser extent, rock musicians, but little to do with the pop of the day. The appendices include a nice list of composers and their recordings; each entry gives a brief description of the composer's style and history. ==================================================== Jonathan M. Perl jmperl@juno.com I would like to add Film Posters of the 60s, by Tony Nourmand and Graham Marsh. London: Aurum Press, 1997; New York: Overlook Press, 1998. This is particularly interesting to look at in conjunction with the Album cover art book, as it has reproductions of posters of the same kinds of films, including many comparisons of posters from different countries. In particular, the Japanese posters, such as the one for 'the umbrellas of cherbourg' are fascinating. There is a cover scan of the book here: http://www.mcs.net/~klast/www/bks_film.html#posters =========================================================== Lou Smith VideoHound's Soundtracks, edited by Didier Deutsch (who compiles soundtracks for Rhino and Sony), forward by Lukas Kendall (ed. of Film Score Monthly), $24.95, (1998) . The book reviews over 2,000 soundtracks, rates them on a 5 dog-bone scale (ha ha - i geddit), and includes a 15 cut CD of Hollywood Records soundtrack selections. Impulse purchase - I'll know if it was worth it in a few days when I've had a chance to browse. UK magazine Gramophone also has a soundtrack book available. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) tapes (SMYLONYLON) Date: 06 May 1998 23:50:56 +0000 >>And...on a person note, I think you and I have met before in Germany...I emailed you the other day MO, but you never got back to me about it. What gives?? << Are you the one that sat in the trunk of Bernd's Renault with a Tiki tattooed on your shoulder? Then, and only then, I remember. At that day the whole city was so crowded. BTW: I think in my imperfect English a gig always meant a performance of a band somehow, didn't think of DJing. You never stop learning... MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MUV96TBD@Student2.lu.se (Kenny Brockelstein) Subject: Re: (exotica) James Bond -Reply Date: 06 May 1998 23:56:25 +0100 >Who can recommend a good John Barry comp?....... "Great TV And Film Hits" (Columbia 476956 2) I dunno how available it is, I bought it in Prague last year, but I haven't seen it elsewhere before or since. It's really good though, just a few Bond songs and lots of obscure great stuff such as The More Things Change (anyone know where this song was released originally??? It's my favourite Barry track) and The Danny Scipio Theme. 16 songs all in all, playing time is about 45 minutes. Kenny Brockelstein # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Tijuana Brass Date: 06 May 1998 23:30:50 +0100 Hi, Knowing that there are several musicologists who take part in this discussion group, can anyone trace the origins of the Tijuana Brass style of music back to European roots? I'm not sure if I can define the question exactly, but if the origin of Tijuana is in some Euro brass band tradition, how come it's very different to the German Oompah sort of music? Perhaps it relates back to a style of brass in Spain - 'bullring accompaniment' - but if you ask about Spanish music you tend to think of Flamenco. Come to that, do you hear Flamenco in Mexico? Puzzledly, Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com (Lou Smith) Subject: (exotica) fwd: [ANN] Blue Moon Records Sale Date: 06 May 1998 23:59:25 GMT Wasn't there a recent post endorsing Blue Moon? If so, here's an FYI picked up from Usenet. Standard disclaimer: I'm not associated with BM in *any* way. -Lou (can someone remind me which Blue Moon releases are worth buying?) In rec.music.misc, "Lunar E-clipse" wrote: >http://www.purity.com/bluemoon/ > >From May 5-15 All Domestics are 10% off and all Imports are 15%off on all >orders of $50 or more. > >Blue Moon is a new online music store specializing in underground dance >music on both vinyl and CD. Our catalog is divided into five main styles >(listed below), and is fully searchable. > >House/Progressive/Garage >Techno/Trance/Acid/Goa >Hardcore/Gabber >Drum & Bass/Jungle >Big Beats/Trip Hop/Breaks/Electro > >New releases are added every week, so come by often and browse the catalog. > > >Keith La Rosa >Lunar E-clipse >Owner >------- >Blue Moon Records >512.459.9795 office >512.328.2688 fax # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) How'd they do? How'd they do? How'd they do? Date: 06 May 1998 19:02:20 -0400 At 06:57 AM 05/05/98 -0400, Brian Phillips wrote: > >This list is a good thing for people that want to talk about exotica, but >since I was born in 1963, I have no historical perspective on the albums we >discuss. I can, however, look at the Billboard chart positions of some of >the people we discuss. The historical perspective I bring to the records discussed here has little or nothing to do with chart positions. I do find it kind of fascinating to discover that a number of these records attained chart positions and even sold well. For one thing it helps explain the abundance of certain records at Goodwill stores. And having grown up with that stuff around me, I guess I'm not surprised to find out that some of this stuff "charted". Of course, the first time I saw a "chart" of any kind it was the local radio station's CHUM Chart and I only cared whether the Animals had toppled the Beatles. I'd be surprised to find out that anyone collected this stuff using charts. I guess I assumed that most people who collect this stuff do it somewhat like I do, whether they were around for all of it or not. When I was growing up, there was the world of music I couldn't get enough of and there was the world of music that I couldn't get AWAY FROM enough. It never really occurred to me that there were people who actually bought these records I was trying to get away from. Occasionally I'd see the actual records in someone's parents' collection but mostly this music was a FORCE which seemed to permeate everything. Even rock shows on TV had more easy listening versions of current hits than they had actual rock n roll. So now I'm mining all the tributaries I can find within this "genre" which I once considered the ENEMY, the voice of official culture. And given how unbelievably narrow my view of music was as a child, it's interesting to find out that Perez Prado's "Patricia" was an actual hit. That perspective was so narrow and so entrenched that even 15 years into collecting jazz, I still read the back of some bebop record and think "Wow they made this record when I was two! Who knew?" I guess my historical perspective is not so much based on historical FACT or historical research as much as it's about finding as many records as possible which I once would have HATED - as much for what they stood for as for any musical qualities - and finding out what I think of them now. In some sense, it's about putting faces to all those names that once made me cringe but it's also about the endless, faceless mass of generic records that sometimes turn out to be pretty groovy. Really what it's about is the fact that these records are usually cheap and if you sufficiently expand your idea of what is a record you want, then you can always find a record you THINK you want. It is anthropological but historical fact only enters into it only AFTER you decide that this is the coolest record you found in weeks and then someone says "Hey that was on the Billboard chart for 2 weeks". "Oh yeah? Hmmmm..." Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) James Bond Date: 06 May 1998 19:02:22 -0400 At 01:30 PM 06/05/98 UT, peter_risser@cinfin.com wrote: > >There's been some debate over on the Zorn list There's a Zorn list?!? Like this list but dedicated to one artist? A prolific artist I must admit - some might say a little TOO prolific - but still. A newsgroup or a list? Like how many posts a day? You look in your mailbox and there's 25 little letters all about John Zorn? Anybody over there speculating on whether Marvin Hamlisch is slated for a Great Jewish Composers tribute? I guess this was a rhetorical question. Why shouldn't there be a Zorn list? It's the web, right? I guess no matter how much I come to understand this web thing in principle, I can still be surprised by what happens in practice. I was actually listening to one of his Filmworks CD's as this posting came up... Is there a John Lurie list? Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) 2525 - semantic extension Date: 06 May 1998 19:02:24 -0400 At 11:55 AM 06/05/98 -0400, m.ace wrote: > >> a dork??? Couldn't find that in my dictionary. >>U.S. slang. Dork = phallus. > >Also applied to humans, with negative connotation. In my experience, roughly >equivalent to "nerd", but minus the brainy aspects. I never think of dork as a nerd-related term. I think of dork as more like "doofus" or even "jerk". And if it is slang for phallus, then that would put it with all the other phallic terms like schmuck, schmendrick, prick, dick... which I apply mostly to people I dislike. But I think it implies a meanness, a cruelty on the person's part and nerds are usually nice. I mean, if a person were somehow so focussed on their phallus that they in effect BECAME a phallus, then I think they would be the OPPOSITE of a nerd. When I think of myself as a nerd - though "geek" comes to mind more often - it's because I believe I'm acting like I don't have a phallus at all... which before you say it, is not the same as acting like a woman. Whatever the original meaning of dork, I think that today it implies a prick who's too stupid to be all that mean. Too stupid or too harmless. A stupid harmless phallus. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) mildew Date: 06 May 1998 20:04:31 -0400 I know this has been discussed previously, but I can't imagine when it was or what the subject line would have been (and maybe someone's learned some new tricks by now). Does anyone know some good methods for dealing with mildew on records and covers? (especially covers -- got some rather overpowering specimens here) And yes, I know about the Nitty Gritty. No, it's not an option. Thanks, m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod Subject: Re: (exotica) James Bond Date: 06 May 1998 22:12:44 EDT In a message dated 98-05-06 17:49:51 EDT, you write: << Especially since James has to drive an ordinary BMW just because it is sponsored! >> This BMW slant is interesting. In the books, Ian Fleming still had a "post war' dislike of things German. The villians often drove German cars (Draco in Moonraker and Ernst Stavro Blofeld in On Her Majesty's Secret Service, et. al.). Actually many of the villians had "German blood". Fleming would relate Bond's appreciation for the German cars but Bond "would never consider owning one". Keep this mind these are Fleming's observations not mine. For one, I live in South Carolina -- the only place where the Z3 is made and the most favorite car I ever owned was a 1976 BMW 2002 (which had an excellent Blaupundt radio that I use to listen to a "Walk in the Black Forrest" on -- there -- I tied in a music thread). Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: (exotica) Hello exotica Date: 06 May 1998 17:20:01 -0500 Hello good people of the exotica list. I'm a newcomer to this list. I am a big fan of all sorts of exotica/lounge/moog and such. My faves include Esquivel, Denny, and Baxter (of course). Which I consider to be the big 3 of exotica. I also love more obscurer stuff like Milton Delugg and Si Zentner. I love tape trading, and I am always willing to spread good music around wherever possible. In the meantime, I'll just sit back and get a feel for the list and chime in whenever I think it's appropriate. Thanks, Jeffery Hess _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: Re: (exotica) smylonylon Date: 06 May 1998 18:58:14 PDT Marcus wrote: >Yes, but where is it. I've been walking up >and down Lafayette 1000 of times and I haven't found it. >People tell me that the actual store isn't called Smylonylon >but something else (not Something Else though.) The name is on the door, but really small. You're better off looking for the plastic crap that covers the door. As for directions, it's in the opposite direction from Other Music, Prince Street, Screaming Mimi's etc., and if you're walking towards it it's on the right side of the street. >AND > > isn't it Family of God? Yes, I think you and Jill (Mingo-go) are both right. I sent my post before I got hers, hence the repetition. Besides the Vampyros Lesbos nights (are those still happening?), the Smylonylon scene is one of the things I really want to go to in NYC but I almost never stay overnight. Anyone been to either? Jordana Robinson eero67@geocities.com www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryls Subject: Re: (exotica) James Bond Date: 06 May 1998 22:35:11 -0400 Nat Kone wrote: > > There's a Zorn list?!? ... Like how many posts a day? You look in your mailbox and there's 25 little letters all about John Zorn? Anybody over there speculating on whether Marvin Hamlisch is slated for a Great Jewish Composers tribute? Scary thought, but you never know... > Is there a John Lurie list? If anyone knows about a John or Evan Lurie/Lounge Lizards list, I'd appreciate knowing about it! cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tosh@loop.com (Tosh) Subject: Re: (exotica) James Bond Date: 06 May 1998 19:49:44 -0700 (PDT) How are the Bonds books? Which are the best ones? Suggestions please! Plus exotica goes beyond just music. ----------------- Tosh Berman TamTam Books ---------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod Subject: Re: (exotica) James Bond Date: 06 May 1998 23:18:09 EDT In a message dated 98-05-06 22:51:15 EDT, you write: << How are the Bonds books? Which are the best ones? Suggestions please! Plus exotica goes beyond just music. >> These are some of my opinions of good Bond books: Casino Royale (the first) Moonraker Diamonds are Forever Live and Let Die Thunderball Goldfinger On Her Majesty's Secret Service These are the early one's -- the later ones were softened along with Flemings post war cynicism. The post Fleming Books written by Gardner as epilogues at the best. Run through the classics first. These make for great summer reading -- easy to pick up and put down. I would suggests the used paperback book stores. Hope this thread is ok people. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) If I knew Nat was coming, I'd have baked a cake... Date: 07 May 1998 07:54:42 -0400 I wrote: > >This list is a good thing for people that want to talk about exotica, but > >since I was born in 1963, I have no historical perspective on > the albums we > >discuss. I can, however, look at the Billboard chart positions > of some of > >the people we discuss. To which Nat replied: > The historical perspective I bring to the records discussed here > has little or nothing to do with chart positions. So I say... That's fine. As Nat said later in his post, it is interesting to me to see what charted and what did not, which is why I posted what I did. My Uncle (the one that got me interested in Yma Sumac) said once while playing "Le Souk" by Dave Brubeck, "Everyone I knew at college had a copy of "Jazz Goes to College". That is the perspective that I cannot provide and a chart may or may not reflect the popularity of this record. I personally don't use the charts to say, "Well, that must have been _____'s best album, look how it sold". To quote the computer in the movie "Rollerball", I'm a stat freak, myself". Let's just say I rely on the kindness of strangers before and after a good browse session. It doesn't take many repetitions of the Eagles' oeuvre to make one a niche consumer. It is nice to see the men and women who left behind great music get appreciated by others. Music business is business and business needs sales. The recognition of this (as good or bad Billboard's methods were/are) I find interesting and was not meant to dictate taste in the group., or my particular. Further on, Nat said... "...as it's about finding as many records as possible which I once would have HATED - as much for what they stood for as for any musical qualities - and finding out what I think of them now." This phenom never ceases to amaze me. My early (8 or 9 years old!) dislike of Billie Holiday came from the fact that my father hogged the stereo to listen to all four sides "The Billie Holiday Story", not quality of music. I'd like another crack at Orquestra Almendra for the same reason! However, there are some that fall into the good category (Les Baxter), yet there are still the records that I still cannot deal with (as always, Jo Basile's "My World" and "Do the Hula" by various artists or Thurston Knudson). For all y'all: What is the hippest record that you found in your parent's collection, exotica-wise? For me, it would be "Le Sacre du Savage" de Les Baxter, a 10" LP. *Ding* Cake's done, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: (exotica) Sy Zentner Date: 07 May 1998 05:52:54 PDT Yes, Sy Zentner! I just finished making a compilation tape last evening and capped it with a couple of Zentner tunes: Dragons and Demons and his version of Tiki (anyone know what Baxter lp this appeared on? Or any CD comps. it may have been included on? Great song). Although I can't recall the name of the lp, it is really quite good. Zentner, I believe, started out in Billy May's band. >I also love more obscurer stuff like Milton Delugg >and Si Zentner. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: (exotica) Ranwood.Tornadoes Date: 07 May 1998 06:22:20 PDT Hugh Petfield inquired: Was Grean a shareholder in Ranwood? Did he produce the recently discussed Exotic Guitars album on Ranwood? Perhaps a shareholder, but the producer was ... Randy Wood. Nifty, hm? Speaking of producers (sort of), the Joe Meek project The Tornadoes is well worth a listen. They are, of course, the band that is responsible for the initial recording of Telstar - and their version much more interesting than subsequent covers. Though the instruments played are pretty conventional, they seem to have totally exploited the resources of Meek's studio - capturing a distinct, "outerspace pop" sound. All songs are instrumental, and though The Tornadoes do not really belong in the proto-surf pantheon, I'd mention them in the same breath as The Shadows and The Atlantics. I think the Telstar lp has been released on CD. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Re:Parents record collection Date: 07 May 1998 07:37:03 PDT >For all y'all: > >What is the hippest record that you found in your parent's collection, >exotica-wise? For me, it would be "Le Sacre du Savage" de Les Baxter, a 10" >LP. Not much but "Great Mambos" by Perez Prado maybe. Hot mambos, cute covergirl. But the most important LP I found back home is a blues LP called "Angola prisoners Blues" recorded at Angola State prison where the bluesmen Robert Pete Williams, Hogman Maxey and Guitar Welch were inmates at the time (1960?). That LP hooked me onto Country blues in the 80s, and Robert Pete Williams still remains (after 5-6 more LPs) my favorite bluessinger. He made Grown So Ugly btw, later covered excellently by Captain Beefheart. -- Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) tapes (SMYLONYLON) Date: 07 May 1998 16:41:29 +0000 Jill Mingo wrote: > And I am going to PopKomm again. > It's a business thang, of course. > U2? I will also be there . Business thAng, shure! Me and my publisher will introduce my book called "Popkatalog Vol.1 / Postpsychedelische Malerei", 128 pages full color hard cover, if you know what I mean... Also featuring: 10 pages of Tiki-Art plus other exotic goodies. Be prepared! Make shure we meet! Kekipi MO tiki # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: GARY MOSCHELES (NEW Exotica) Date: 07 May 1998 16:42:11 +0000 DJJimmyBee wrote: > please consider writing your stuff in one e-mail as opposed to a separate e- > mail for every topic--the temptation at this address is to simply delete Why? A list member interested in James Bond might not wanna read everything about Zager & Evans at the same time. My remarks are always subject-related. I don't understand your point. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) James Bond cars Date: 07 May 1998 16:42:39 +0000 >>This BMW slant is interesting. In the books, Ian Fleming still had a "post war' dislike of things German. The villians often drove German cars (Draco in Moonraker and Ernst Stavro Blofeld in On Her Majesty's Secret Service, et. al.). Actually many of the villians had "German blood". Fleming would relate Bond's appreciation for the German cars but Bond "would never consider owning one". Keep this mind these are Fleming's observations not mine. For one, I live in South Carolina -- the only place where the Z3 is made and the most favorite car I ever owned was a 1976 BMW 2002 (which had an excellent Blaupundt radio that I use to listen to a "Walk in the Black Forrest" on -- there -- I tied in a music thread). Robert<< I had a 1802 which is basically the same model, only a different engine. What color was yours? Orange? Mine was black... THE James Bond Car is of course the Aston Martin. But these days: You never know who buys whom, like BMW bought Rolls Royce, so even driving a good old "Strolls Nice" wouldn't help 007 to be "English" in his car preferences. Like Daimler Benz and Chrysler now want to fusion... MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip Subject: (exotica) Teletubbies Date: 07 May 1998 10:55:08 EDT I just picked up a CD from the Teletubbies television show marketed for one- year olds. A very unusual (odd), highly creative program from Britian with music, song and stories to match. Andrew McCrorie-Shand wrote and performs the quirky music. The Teletubbies (little alien-like creatures with TV's in their stomachs) strange giggles and whispers are all over the place and Tim Whitnall narrates. Check it out if you are into this kind of thing. For some reason, Johan came to mind. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Sy Zentner Date: 07 May 1998 08:57:46 -0600 >Yes, Sy Zentner! I just finished making a compilation tape last evening >and capped it with a couple of Zentner tunes: Dragons and Demons and his >version of Tiki (anyone know what Baxter lp this appeared on? Or any CD >comps. it may have been included on? Great song). Although I can't >recall the name of the lp, it is really quite good. Zentner, I believe, >started out in Billy May's band. This is from that "Exotica Suite" LP which is a Si Zentner/Martin Denny collaboration, composed by Les Baxter. Or so the cover says. It is a great track, me thinks. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) smylonylon Date: 07 May 1998 10:59:09 -0400 > As for directions, it's in > the opposite direction from Other Music, Prince Street, Screaming Mimi's > etc., and if you're walking towards it it's on the right side of the > street. > Jordana, Could you rephrase this? Walking towards it from what direction, north or south? Whether it is on my left or right is relative to the way I am walking. What is the cross street? Is it closer to Astor or Houston? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Turner Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:Parents record collection Date: 07 May 1998 08:00:20 -0700 (PDT) > > But the most important LP I found back home is a blues LP called "Angola > prisoners Blues" recorded at Angola State prison where the bluesmen > Robert Pete Williams, Hogman Maxey and Guitar Welch were inmates at the > time (1960?). That LP hooked me onto Country blues in the 80s, and > Robert Pete Williams still remains (after 5-6 more LPs) my favorite > bluessinger. He made Grown So Ugly btw, later covered excellently by > Captain Beefheart. FYI, "Angola Prisoner's Blues" was reissued (last year, I think) on CD by Arhoolie, with previously-unreleased tracks. -- Mark Turner | "Slow Train to Dawn" with Rocky Rococo mturner@netcom.com | Sundays 3-7AM, 89.7 KFJC, Los Altos Hills, CA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: (exotica) Zorn Date: 07 May 1998 10:53:25 -0400 Pardon me, but who is John Zorn? I think I know a guy by that name, but is that him? Charlieman > At 01:30 PM 06/05/98 UT, peter_risser@cinfin.com wrote: > > > >There's been some debate over on the Zorn list > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip Subject: Re: (exotica) Zorn Date: 07 May 1998 12:07:43 EDT << Pardon me, but who is John Zorn? >> Per the All-Music Guide: It is possible to call John Zorn a "jazz" musician, but that would be much too limiting a description. While jazz feeling is present in a good deal of his work, and the idea of improvisation is vitally important to him, Zorn doesn't operate within any idiom's framework, drawing from just about any musical, cultural or noise source that a fellow who grew up in the TV and LP eras could experience. This eclecticism gone haywire can result in such wildly jump- cutting works as Spillane, whose plethora of diverse and incompatible styles makes for a listening experience akin to constantly punching the station buttons on a car radio. Zorn believes that the age of the composer as an "autonomous musical mind" had come to an end in the late 20th century; hence the collaborative nature of much of his work, both with active musicians and music and styles of the past. Like Mel Brooks, the zany film director, many of Zorn's works are tributes to certain musical touchstones of his -- such as Ennio Morricone, Sonny Clark and Ornette Coleman -- all filtered through his unpredictable hall of mirrors. While it would be foolhardy to single out a handful of dominant influences, Zorn's music seems very close in spirit to that of Warner Bros. cartoon composer Carl Stalling, both in its transformation of found material and manic, antic moods. This calculating wild man started playing the piano as a child before taking up the guitar and flute at age ten. By the time he was 14, Zorn had discovered contemporary classical music and began composing; his college years in St. Louis brought about his introduction to avant-garde jazz, particularly that of Anthony Braxton. He dropped out of college, settled in lower Manhattan, and began working with free improvisers, rock bands, and tape, sometimes working duck and bird calls into his arsenal. After putting out releases on tiny domestic and poorly distributed import labels, Zorn signed with Elektra- Nonesuch in the mid-1980s, which increased his visibility considerably. Along the way, he has formed tribute bands to play the music of Coleman, Hank Mobley, Lee Morgan and others; featured musicians as diverse as Big John Patton, Tim Berne, Bill Frisell and the Kronos Quartet; and assembled a group called Masada that merges Coleman with Yiddish music. Jazz buffs should be directed to his Coleman tribute album Spy Vs. Spy (Nonesuch), which makes exciting, thrashing yet concise hashes of 17 Ornette tunes with a quintet. -- Richard S. Ginell, back to me... The only thing I have from him is his very short, very INTENSE, "Cynical Hysterie Hour", which is the score to a Japanese animated film. Although it took awhile to "get it", I've grown too like it quite a bit. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Larry House Subject: (exotica) Columbo theme Date: 07 May 1998 12:25:03 -0400 I'm sure I remember a news or entertainment feature from the 70's that showed an electric violin being used for the TV theme for the "Columbo" show. Larry House. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike clifford Subject: (exotica) Re: Bond books Date: 07 May 1998 10:33:20 -0600 I want to echo the used book store suggestion, and maybe add thrift shops abnd garage sales. It's been my experience that, like Herb Alpert lps, bond paperbacks seem to turn up pretty often in the used bins. I don't think I've ever spent more than $1 on an old Bond paperback, usually less. In a related note - anyone else have the "Music to Read James Bond by" album? don't have it with me here, but some fun stuff, if memory serves, and a great cover w/ the gold-leafed girl, what else, reading Fleming books. I also really reccomend reading the books to get a better perspective on the "real" Bond, especially if you've been poisoned by the last few years of movies. And I've got to say, as bad as the Dalton and Brosnan flix may be, are they worse than "A View to a Kill?" Sorry about the digression...at least I mentioned the album. mike > ><< How are the Bonds books? Which are the best ones? Suggestions please! > Plus exotica goes beyond just music. >> > >These are some of my opinions of good Bond books: > >Casino Royale (the first) >Moonraker >Diamonds are Forever >Live and Let Die >Thunderball >Goldfinger >On Her Majesty's Secret Service > > >These are the early one's -- the later ones were softened along with Flemings >post war cynicism. The post Fleming Books written by Gardner as epilogues at >the best. Run through the classics first. > >These make for great summer reading -- easy to pick up and put down. I would >suggests the used paperback book stores. > >Hope this thread is ok people. > >Robert > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christopher Elkins" Subject: Re: (exotica) Zorn Date: 07 May 1998 10:45:19 -0700 <..snip..> >>many of Zorn's works are tributes to certain musical >>touchstones of his -- such as Ennio Morricone <..snip..> IMHO, Zorn's most accessible album (and my own personal favorite) is "Big Gundown: Music of Ennio Morricone" (Nonesuch, 75597 79139 2). It comprises various interpretations of Morricone tunes as orchestrated by Zorn. Some are true to the original, while most are, shall we say, uniquely rendered. I don't think he actually plays on any of the tracks, but a lot of his New York art scene friends do -- Fred Frith, Arto Lindsay, Anton Fier, Bill Frizzell, etc. If for nothing else, this album is worth getting just for the theme from "Battle of Algiers", complete with turntable scratching. ... christopher elkins ... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk) Subject: Re: (exotica) Sy Zentner Date: 07 May 1998 10:15:11 -1000 >... and his >version of Tiki (anyone know what Baxter lp this appeared on? Or any CD >comps. it may have been included on? Great song). CD-wise: I'm pretty sure it's on "The Exotic Moods of Les Baxter" double CD on Captiol. - Steve *** *** *** Steve Funk (sfunk@pop.adn.com) Anchorage, AK USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Sy Zentner Date: 07 May 1998 14:42:45 -0400 At 08:57 AM 07/05/98 -0600, Jill Mingo wrote: >This is from that "Exotica Suite" LP which is a Si Zentner/Martin Denny >collaboration, composed by Les Baxter. That's the one with the piece of burlap on the cover, right? I passed it up at the beginning of this journey because it was $15 and I thought the price laughable. Later a collector of this stuff said I should have grabbed it. I don't know but I haven't seen it since. The burlap was a nice touch, have to admit. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Zorn Date: 07 May 1998 14:42:48 -0400 At 10:53 AM 07/05/98 -0400, Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD wrote: > >Pardon me, but who is John Zorn? I think I know a guy by that name, but is >that him? This should probably be answered by someone who IS on the Zorn list but certainly there's a connection between music discussed here and some of Zorn's output. In fact, I think that Zorn is one of the forces that led me "back" to the music discussed here. For one, there's his Naked City band and records with all their "crime music" references. (One of the best concerts I've ever seen.) And there's a cut on his Morricone tribute album ("The Big Gundown") called "Erotico (The Burglars)" which is one of the coolest exotica-sounding cuts I've ever heard. I think I've seen it here on someone's playlist. And someone could make the argument that Zorn's klezmer-influenced records are exotica but I'm not going to be the one to suggest that klezmer IS exotica. I'm considering that Zorn list. We actually have a mutual friend. (Me and Zorn that is, not me and the list.) I just don't know if I want to impose my opinions on a whole new group of folks. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Parents record collection Date: 07 May 1998 14:43:36 -0400 It's a toss up between Arthur Lyman "Taboo Vol. II" or The Ventures "A-Go-Go". They both rule in their own special way. Charlieman > >For all y'all: > > > >What is the hippest record that you found in your parent's collection, > >exotica-wise? For me, it would be "Le Sacre du Savage" de Les Baxter, > a 10" > >LP. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Looking for Exotica Mp3's Date: 07 May 1998 12:12:38 +0000 Johan Dada Vis wrote: > > hi Ron! > > I KNOW what MPEG Layer 3 is, i just didn't know the abbrev. This occurred to me well after I sent my message. Type first, ask questions later. That's me. I guess MP3 is a nickname of sorts. See, I was right! You did know. > i think the file size of 10:1 compressed files is still too huge for > the current bandwith of the 'net, hence the success of the rather > lousy quality of realaudio. Agreed But at least it facilitates the exchange of files you KNOW you want. You just have to be committed to the lengthy load time. I should break out the calculator and figger how long it would take to up/download a FANTASTICA! program (probably WAY too long, but not as long as the Postal Service, eh?) > i'd like to find that site you mention, sounds intruiging, > thanx for mentioning it! http://www.nordicdms.com/CollectorsRecords/ It looks as though they have seriously revamped the site. I'm interested in going back and looking around, as I have not been there for a long time. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) Sy Zentner Date: 07 May 1998 12:17:05 PDT No, I checked this one. I'm pretty sure it wasn't on there; could be wrong, though. The Zentner lp I was taping may be a best of - so it may well be that the track first showed up on the Denny/Zenter collaboration? >CD-wise: I'm pretty sure it's on "The Exotic Moods of Les Baxter" double CD >on Captiol. > >- Steve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: breithel@lund.mail.telia.com (Ingemar Breithel) Subject: Re: (exotica) Teletubbies Date: 07 May 1998 21:22:54 +0200 BasicHip wrote: >I just picked up a CD from the Teletubbies television show marketed for one- >year olds. > >A very unusual (odd), highly creative program from Britian with music, song >and stories to match. Andrew McCrorie-Shand wrote and performs the quirky >music. Cheezus! Not THE Andrew McCrorie-Shand?? But it must be.... none other than the leader of Druid, the most pompous of progressive rock groups from the 70s! Their first album "Toward the Sun" from 1975 is one of the more blatant Yes rip-offs in existence, down to the pilfered songtitles and lyrics, not to mention the castrato vocalist. And Mr. McCrorie-Shand's Rick Wakeman-like synthesizer antics are another amusing highlight. Well, this only goes to show, as so many times before, that anything and anyone will sooner or later turn up on the list.... "Tales from Topographic Oceans" has been mentioned in the past, so why not Druid? What's next, Fruupp? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: (exotica) greetings Date: 07 May 1998 12:29:11 -0700 Hello, I'm new on the list. I'm Dave and I like many genres of music, including many of the personal definitions of "exotica" I've seen described here. I'm a stickler for categorizing my music library (each song) in many ways - year of release (or recording), songwriter, etc. I try and make an honest attempt at research, and I appreciate the reference books and resources I've seen mentioned here. So, I'll probably pop on once in a while with a question regarding the year of a song or an album - I hope no one gets too annoyed. Or I'll pop on with a comment. Those are sure to annoy. Thanks - Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brian@headspace.com (Brian Salter) Subject: RE: (exotica) Parents record collection Date: 07 May 1998 12:35:51 -0800 >> > >> >What is the hippest record that you found in your parent's collection, >> >exotica-wise? For me, it would be "Le Sacre du Savage" de Les Baxter, >> a 10" >> >LP. >> I also found this one, along with Tamboo, in my mom's discarded LPs out in the garage one day... but the album that takes the cake is 'Zodiac Cosmic Sounds' by Mort Garson. That one really made me wonder... ;) -Brian ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Brian Salter brian@headspace.com / bsalter@slip.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:Parents record collection Date: 07 May 1998 12:52:44 +0000 Magnus Sandberg wrote: > > >For all y'all: > > > >What is the hippest record that you found in your parent's collection Hmmmm.... That would have to be Heintje, the singin'est little Dutch cherub ya ever did see. He was Dutch, but sang in German. It was mixed in with all those RCA red vinyl records of God-knows-what. That's as hip as it gets. Oooooooh! Wait! I'm having a flashback on a Nancy Sinatra Album... Probably my first encounter with cheesecake on an album. She's reclining in a that tight black and white striped outfit. Yeeeeessssss! How did that get mixed in with all the Perry Como albums? My clearest musical memories of the happy household was Sunday mornings listening to Hugo Schneider on KBAY's European music program. It was mostly German. My dad who lived throught the occupation of Holland called it "Singing along wih the enemy." The only song I can actually remember is "the Third Man Theme." Everything else is just a blur of oompah. Also, KFOG at the time was a "Beautiful Music" station, and I believe a lot of exotica standards were imprinted on my psyche from hours of having it in the background. KFOG's signature was the sound of a San Francisco fogorn, OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAmmmp! with a loooong decaying echo. I love that sound. They still use it from time to time, but KFOG is now a pretty mediocre classic-rock station. Also, I was aware of the fact that KFOG in particular had a fantastic sound. It had a stereo presence that would keep me between the speakers for hours. Another memory is my mother LUNGING for the radio to turn off Dean Martin or Frank Sinatra. Both sent her into spastic fits of disgust. This bothered me because I truly LOVED the song "Something Stupid" by Frank and Nancy. At one time it was in regular rotation on either KBAY or KFOG. Hooboy! a flood of memories. Great thread! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brian@headspace.com (Brian Salter) Subject: Re: (exotica) Sy Zentner Date: 07 May 1998 13:04:45 -0800 > >That's the one with the piece of burlap on the cover, right? I passed it >up at the beginning of this journey because it was $15 and I thought the >price laughable. Later a collector of this stuff said I should have >grabbed it. I don't know but I haven't seen it since. The burlap was a >nice touch, have to admit. > I would say that if you're used to paying $10-15 for these kind of records, then Exotica Suite would be worth picking up... exciting music and a beautiful sounding recording. It would be a great album even without the burlap! (but some people don't like it on account of it's not being pure exotic Dennyism... it has a lot of driving big band arrangements mixed in, which I happen to like... and the arrangements and playing are top notch, IMO) Recently I DJ'd a wedding reception , and when I played 'Jungle Train' from this album, the newlyweds came out and had their first dance... now there's an endorsement for you! -Brian ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Brian Salter brian@headspace.com / bsalter@slip.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: RE: (exotica) Parents record collection Date: 07 May 1998 13:23:36 -0700 (PDT) >> >What is the hippest record that you found in your parent's collection, exotica-wise? For me it was definitely Quiet Villiage by Martin Denny, but the coolest song was Blen Blen Blen with the great Miguelito Valdez on vocals for the Xavier Cughat Orchestra on some cracked in half record Big Band Greatest Hits, an RCA compilation. I always wondered if the crack hurt my stylus or needle as it was sometimes called. Special mention should go to Perez Prado- Maria Bonita! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Parents record collection Date: 07 May 1998 13:33:07 +0000 Chucke writes: > Special mention should go to Perez Prado- Maria Bonita! Aaaaaay-Yaaaaaay-Yaaaaaaay-YAIII!!!!!! (Hoooo!) Don't get me STARTED! The beginning of that song is PRICELESS. So's the picture of "PREZ" on the cover, with his head kinda resting on one hand all thoughtful-like. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com (Lou Smith) Subject: (exotica) fwd: Industrial designer Joshua Lippincott dies Date: 07 May 1998 22:12:51 GMT > NEW YORK, May 7 (AFP) - Industrial designer Joshua Gordon >Lippincott, known for creating the Coca-Cola and Campbell Soup >logos, has died, the New York Times reported Thursday. > Lippincott's grandson Jonathan told the daily his grandfather >died at the family's home in New Haven, Connecticut, at the age of >89. > An engineer by training, Lippincott also designed the 1947 >Tucker automobile known as the "Tucker Torpedo," of which only 46 >were produced. > Lippincott's soup can design was the inspiration for Andy Warhol >and the Pop Art movement of the 1960s. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Looking for Exotica Mp3's Date: 07 May 1998 14:18:18 +0000 > http://www.nordicdms.com/CollectorsRecords/ It looks as though > they have seriously revamped the site. I'm interested in going back and > looking around, as I have not been there for a long time. In my haste to reply to Johan, I sent this URL without checking it out first. It still does not have the variety necessary to be truly useful. It had some worthwhile MP3's for download, though not anything to excited over. It is however an interesting concept: Buying music and receiving it via the internet. They also offer a portable MP3 player - Like a Walkman, but with no moving parts! The "Collectors Vinyl" area is a joke. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LABUSH@DELTA.IS.TCU.EDU Subject: (exotica) the most exotic record found in my parents' collection: Date: 07 May 1998 16:29:41 -0500 (CDT) I once found in my parents' record collection a Moog record called "Blues Current" that had all-Moog versions of blues standards . . . it had a giant electrical plug on the cover. Lisa labush@student.tcu.edu FemmeMiamMiam@yahoo.com http://delta.is.tcu.edu/~labush = Lisa's Metropical Laboratoire. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Re: Siesta Records Date: 07 May 1998 14:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Greetings to all Exotic Listers: Been out and worn out from the jazz fest & I finally took the time to listen to two great cds I purchased from a small independent company called Roundabout Records. p o box 76302 Washington DC 20013-6302 202/543-5465 The first cd was a various artist compilation on Siesta call Expresso. This cd nails the suave sophisticated easy listening sound that we seem to be drifting away from with the Now Sound . I can't recommend this Expresso cd enough, just about every song nails it. Way too cool ! I would like to know more about the Siesta artists and plan to buy some more. Is anyone familiar with Siesta arists Laila Amazon, La Buena Vida , Holiday, Minema, Moving Pictures, Loius Phillipe or the Red Sleeping Beauty Sountrack? The other cd I got was Music for Marshmellow Lovers on the Marina lable. This cd has remakes of Barbarella & kites by Free Design & I am a Kitten. The whole cd is great cutesy popsy easy lisenting Special thanks to whoever posted the Marina web site. The Marshmallow Lovers cd is just about the same songs and artists as is found on the Songs for the Jet Set cd on Siesta , What gives? The Siesta web site is at http://www.get.es/Siesta/enter/enter.htm Thanks for all the great postings that have been going on. Chuck _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) James Bond cars Date: 08 May 1998 00:06:29 +0000 Just one hour ago I read that not BMW but VW buys Rolls Royce. To me that sounds like McDonalds running the "Chez Bocuse" or something... But I'm totally off exotica-road now... One of my paintings represents a Tiki-VW, all wooden with Tikis and Bones and carvings...I never understand why todays cars lack any sense of imagination. MO (in the BMW-capital Munich) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) tapes (SMYLONYLON) Date: 08 May 1998 00:06:48 +0000 >>Coolerama. Wish I was able to actually READ your book. Guess I'd better brush up on my German.<< No need, it's mostly all pictures. The text, "art theory", is only in it to cheat the conceptionalists a bit. Also we will have English translations later. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steven Peterson" Subject: (exotica) Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 18:29:43 -0500 Date: 07 May 1998 16:36:00 -0600 Hello to all, My name is Steve Peterson. I'm new to the list. Exotica is what I'm into(Denny,Lyman, Baxter,ect). I hope I can benefit and be of benefit to the list. Thanks! Steve speterso@isoa.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk) Subject: (exotica) Baxter's "Tiki" on CD Date: 07 May 1998 14:53:51 -1000 Just went home for lunch and double checked this, for anyone who's interested... I was in fact WRONG about "Tiki" being on "The Exotic Moods of Les Baxter" CD. The Martin Denny/Sy Zentner version of "Tiki" IS on "The Exotic Sounds of Martin Denny" compilation. Always get those two confused... lots of the same tunes, differnet arrangements. I stand corrected, and so forth. - Steve *** *** *** Steve Funk (sfunk@pop.adn.com) Anchorage, AK USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Parents record collection Date: 07 May 1998 20:15:57 -0400 My folks didn't seem to acquire many records, so there's not a lot of competition, leaving a winner more or less by default... Joe Bushkin - "Nightsounds" (Capitol). With arrangments by Kenyon Hopkins. Joe plays piano. The odd thing is that this is a promo copy, and it doesn't just have the usual "For Promotional Use Only - Not For Sale" sticker on the cover. The label is yellow with black print, and along with the normal info, says (in fairly large type): "Sample Album for Radio-TV program use" Along with a smaller, "Not For Sale - Restricted To Promotional Use Only". Is this unusual? Did this record ever go into public release? Why is the sky blue? Switching channels here, no advice on mildew? Maybe you thought I was being wimpy about a little smell? No, I don't mind a *little* smell (heck, I like the smell of old books). But these specimens have real heavy-duty, room-filling, "knock you off your feet & bring a tear to your eye" odor! Not to mention the organic "texturing" on the covers. Is there a way to get it off without ruining the art? Anyway to cut the stench? Is there a cure? Please, before it takes over the whole building! Thanks. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Your record collection Date: 07 May 1998 20:29:43 -0500 OK then, what (exotic) music from *your* collection have you turned your parents on to? Zamphir's early Romanian pan-flute releases worked for my folks, and Mickey Katz (it mystifies me how they hadn't heard him before). I couldn't tell them anything about Light Classics or Beautiful Music (or BM Radio, as we called it) 'cause that was what was on the radio 24/7. --Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Benton Reed Subject: (exotica) Record Collection Software Date: 07 May 1998 20:36:50 -0400 Can anyone share what kind of software they use to catalog their cd/vinyl/8track and/or book collections? I'm getting ready to look for some, and I would like opinions. Many thanks! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Larson/Thomas" Subject: (exotica) Zorn Date: 07 May 1998 18:22:15 -0700 To me, Zorn's work has always seemed "calculated" rather than inspired--like a dancer with years of lessons but no natural sense of rhythm or movement. Just my 2 cents. Sorry if I upset anyone. Jerry Larson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) SRL Date: 07 May 1998 21:23:42 -0500 While watching some Survival Research Labs videos, it occured to me that the source material for their soundtracks are very exotica/ISM. Does anyone know if SRL's sound mixes are available on tape/CD separately from the videos? What with all the crashing and burning it can be a bit hard to hear the sounds clearly. I'm sure the audio is meant to be part of the total experience but I wouldn't mind hearing clean audio alone. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Subject: (exotica) Playlist fer Jaaaaaaaaaack Date: 07 May 1998 19:09:33 -0700 KFJC play list 4/26/98 for Jack Diamond Http://www.KFJC.org Click on Internet Broadcast w/ A 28.8 Modem or better and I guarantee this will rock your world like you could never imagine possible, ANYTIME, except for Sundays, 10AM-1PM ARTIST TRACK ALBUM The Planets Chunky Maynard Ferguson Octet Finger Snappin' Bill Holman; Arrangements/Composition George Barnes Old Joe Clark Country Jazz Lp On Colortone!!! Roland Shaw Orch I Spy Theme London Phase 4 Ahbez, Eden The Wanderer Eden's Island Elizabeth Waldo Siembra Maracatu, Stereo The Soul Providers Unstoppable Oldsmobile 1970 OST NOW! Angelo Badalamenti Frank Blue Velvet Ost Woodrow Leafer Drums in My Typewriter 1958 Shorty Petterstein A Visit to My Best Girl 1958 Kenny Burrell Girl Talk April, 1966 Giovanni Cristiani The Revelation Demonia Ost, CD Peter Green The Supernatural 1966 Perrey, Jean Jacques/Chazam,D. Analog Dialog Eklectronics LP Jim Gordon Rites of Passage Request via E-Mail 18TH Century Concepts Reach Out, I'll Be There Bill Holman/Mel Lewis Out of this World Andex, 1958 W/ Lee Katzman-Tpt Wilfred Middlebooks-Bass Jimmy Rowles-Piano Clyde Borley Taboooo Martenot Waves Peter Thomas Orch. Hedono Raumpatrouille Ennio Morricone Chase on the Roofs Bird with the Crystal Plummage Jean Jacques Perrey Saturian Sleighride 1966 Chaino (Cha-Ee-No) Walking Bongos Dionysus CD Leonard Bernstein The Rumble West Side Story Cool Kenneth Patchen W/ Chamber Jazz Sextet Limericks Cadence Label Mike Pacheco Caravan Bongo Session, TAMPA-21. 1957 Leith Stevens Orch. Escape From the Destination Moon Moon/Finale 10" LP Marvin Gaye Sexual Healing(Instro) 1982 Oscar Brown Jr. Mr. Kicks! 1962 101 Strings Concrete Jungle Googie Rene Caesar's Pad Jack Costanzo-Bongos Nordine, Ken Yellow Colors Nordine, Ken Green Colors Don Morrow Orch. It Ain't Grindlesteig Roulette Joe Williams! Just a Dream! Joe Is My Man! Mel Blanc With; Tweety Pie & Sylvester Warner Bros. Billy May Orch. Pierre Henry Jerico Jerk Mike Pacheco-Bongos, Wild Side of Jack Costanzo-Congos Main Title Part 2 Henry Mancini Not Part of OST Vinyl Copy Only Henry Mancini Orch. Background to Murder The Wild Side Pete Candoli-Tpt Plas Johnson-Tenor Sax Of Henry Mancini Dave Pell-Bari Sax Red Norvo-Vibes A.K.A. Barney Kessel-Guitar Ray Sherman-Piano Touch of Evil Pete Rugolo Orch. Diamond on the Move KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 KFJC play list 4/26/98 for Jack Diamond Http://www.KFJC.org Click on Internet Broadcast w/ A 28.8 Modem or better and I guarantee this place will rock your world like you could never imagine possible, ANYTIME, except for Sundays, 10AM-1PM JD # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eb Subject: (exotica) Re: zorn Date: 07 May 1998 19:42:28 -0700 Regarding John Zorn: Discovering Zorn's then-new "The Big Gundown" album in the mid '80s was the initial catalyst for me becoming actively interested in Zorn, Morricone, other "outside" jazz, traditional jazz AND film soundtracks. ALL of that. So obviously, it will always have a special place in my heart! Coolest records in my parents' collection: zilch. Hardly anything but conservative classical music and mainstream '60s folk (Peterpaulmary, Baez, Kingston Trio and all that ilk, but not one Dylan album). Eb Claudine: http://users.deltanet.com/~gondola/longet/longet.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tosh@loop.com (Tosh) Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: zorn Date: 07 May 1998 19:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Zorn is wonderful that he exposes so many different types of music/ideas. Going into the world of Zorn,you are sort of being lead into one area of the world to the other. He is one of the few that mixes low into high art. I also think his Gainsbourg collection is great. ----------------- Tosh Berman TamTam Books ---------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: (exotica) John Barry compilations Date: 07 May 1998 16:44:25 PDT Someone asked about this a few days ago, but I accidentally deleted the message. Scamp put out three EMI compilations. You can find more info on them at http://www.caroline.com/scamp/john_barry/ Volume 1 is the most Shadows-y, with lots of rocking ringing guitars and some songs from that film "Beat Girl". Volume 2 has the "Stringbeat" album and similar tracks: also guitary but with a nice smooth feeling that goes well with (pre-moog) Enoch Light-type stuff. Volume 3 has Bond soundtracks and similar stuff - the kinds of things trip-hop people love to sample (lush and filmic). If you can only get one I would recommend Volume 2. While it's similar in feeling to the Command "style", it has a very original quality. The effect of the bright guitars and plucky strings works extremely well. The other volumes are also good, but since it's easier to find his soundtrack stuff and Volume 1 is a little more rock-and-roll, Volume 2 may be the best to start with. Jordana Robinson eero67@geocities.com www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: (exotica) smylonylon Date: 07 May 1998 17:41:34 PDT This is starting to get farther off topic, but this blurb from www.papermag.com should hoepfully help anyone who needs to find the place: ARKLE AND SPARKLE 216 Lafayette St., New York, NY 10012 (212)925-9699 This shop carries an overwhelming array of groovy all-new fashions from the 60's and 70's. Fur-lined walls and plastic decorations add to the shopping experience. For those who hunger for even more polyester, sister store Smylonylon is conveniently located two doors down. Jordana Robinson eero67@geocities.com www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryls Subject: Re: (exotica) Record Collection Software Date: 08 May 1998 00:39:40 -0400 Mark Benton Reed wrote: > > Can anyone share what kind of software they use to catalog their > cd/vinyl/8track and/or book collections? I'm getting ready to look for some, and I would like opinions. We use Lotus Approach (a database program - equivalent to Microsoft Access). If you have enough titles, it's worth it (as opposed to just using a spreadsheet program). It does take forever to input the data, however. You can set up whichever categories make sense to you, ie - record label, country of origin, year, artist, title, type of music, etc... cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LABUSH@DELTA.IS.TCU.EDU Subject: (exotica) Re: Your record collection Date: 08 May 1998 00:27:33 -0500 (CDT) Salut! The only "exotica" artists I've gotten my parents into would have to be Combustible Edison (I turned my mom on to I, Swinger when it came out, but when the second one came out, she didn't like it, because she said it sounded like "a carousel in Hell"), Serge Gainsbourg, the Ultra-Lounge collection, and (semi-pertinently) the Cardigans. But I did also get my mom into the Brian Jonestown Massacre after a night of mutual admiration of old Rolling Stones. That, however, has nothing to do with exotica -- sorry. Lisa labush@student.tcu.edu FemmeMiamMiam@yahoo.com http://delta.is.tcu.edu/~labush = Lisa's Metropical Laboratoire. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tosh@loop.com (Tosh) Subject: Re: (exotica) John Barry compilations Date: 07 May 1998 23:24:29 -0700 (PDT) > >If you can only get one I would recommend Volume 2. While it's similar >in feeling to the Command "style", it has a very original quality. The >effect of the bright guitars and plucky strings works extremely well. >The other volumes are also good, but since it's easier to find his >soundtrack stuff and Volume 1 is a little more rock-and-roll, Volume 2 >may be the best to start with. > I totally agree with Jordana's views on the three volume set. I would think most of the people on this list would enjoy these albums (cds). > > ----------------- Tosh Berman TamTam Books ---------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Exotic cars Date: 08 May 1998 11:23:36 +0000 >>I don't know if you were on the list when this first went up, but I have some photos of the 1953 Kaiser Dragon at my site. A very tiki car indeed.<< Thanks, I've been to your homepage before, but apparantely didn't make it to the car page. Now, that's interesting: Are you stating, that the Kaiser cars were built by Henry Kaiser, the man who built the aluminium dome, were Martin Denny and others performed? It's a small world. The Dragon's Tiki-appeal is rather subtle, my Tiki-VW is more drastic, I attached a pic. Of course you know Robert Williams then and his book Custom Kulture. Do you know a small book called Led Sleads, which came out a while ago? I also collect picture of cars of all kinds. I remember a car called dragon wagon, and I first thought you were talking about that. It was designed by a Tom Daniel , came out as a Monogram (Mattel) hobby kit and looked like a custom Model-T with a Circus-cage on the back, that had a "life-sized" dragon in itself. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) SRL Date: 08 May 1998 11:47:30 +0000 Lou Smith wrote: > While watching some Survival Research Labs videos, it occured to me that the > source material for their soundtracks are very exotica/ISM. > > Does anyone know if SRL's sound mixes are available on tape/CD separately > from the videos? What with all the crashing and burning it can be a bit hard > to hear the sounds clearly. I'm sure the audio is meant to be part of the > total experience but I wouldn't mind hearing clean audio alone. > No, but I remember that our notorious friend Boyd Rice was involved in the soundtracks of SRL, at least some years ago. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotic cars Date: 08 May 1998 04:10:31 PDT >>>I don't know if you were on the list when this first went up, but I >have some >photos of the 1953 Kaiser Dragon at my site. A very tiki car indeed.<< > What URL? A tiki car? Must see. Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Smelly records Date: 08 May 1998 04:30:33 PDT m.ace wrote: >Switching channels here, no advice on mildew? Maybe you thought I was being wimpy about a little smell? No, I don't mind a *little* smell (heck, I like the smell of old books). But these specimens have real heavy-duty, room-filling, "knock you off your feet & bring a tear to your eye" odor! Oh, I didnt understand the word mildew... i thought it meant dust. So you mean your records smell?! To make you feel better, I can assure you that I have some that really stinks ;) Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NATHAN MINER Subject: (exotica) John Barry compilations -Reply Date: 08 May 1998 09:19:53 -0400 Jordana: That was me asking about the Barry comps. Thanks for the info - BUT your recommendation for "Vol. 2" since it is "similar in feeling to the Command style" will make me steer clear of that one!!!! I'd rather go for the rockin' Vol.1!!!!! Vol.3 sounds like what I'm after too. (Tired of Command and "Percussion" albums.......) - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: Re:(exotica) Record Collection Software Date: 08 May 1998 13:59:37 UT I just use Excel, but depending on your level of detail, a simple record collection database would be pretty easy to enter into Access or any other database program (like Lotus). I'd consider going this approach before buying some sort of software. PeterR # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) Quincy Soundtrack? Date: 08 May 1998 09:18:51 +0100 Can any enlightened person tell me which LP the Quincy Jones track Snow Creatures appeared on? Is it a soundtrack? Thanks Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) Galt McDermot Date: 08 May 1998 09:29:17 +0100 After asking about the possible Quincy soundtrack, it also occurred to me to ask which Galt McDermot soundtrack features 'Ripped Open by Metal Explosions' and which of his soundtracks are worth picking up? (excluding Hair) Thanks Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: Re:(exotica) Zorn Date: 08 May 1998 13:41:36 UT Yeah, I have to agree with several people. One, Zorn and Naked City are the first people who got me thinking in the spy/western music vein, which led me to exotica. Two, the Big Gundown is a classic in my collection. And three, the Serge Gainsbourg tribute rules and is easily more accessible than the Big Gundown or the Bacharach tribute. It's definitely topping my list for best of 98 right now. If you're interested in joining the Zorn list, it's on the xmission server, just like this list. I think you have to "subscribe zorn-list", but I forget the exact mechanics. PeterR # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) Quincy - Soundtrack? Date: 08 May 1998 14:07:10 +0100 Does anyone know where the Quincy Jones track 'Snow Creatures' appears? Is it on a soundtrack? Thanks Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gary Mattingly Subject: Re: (exotica) Record Collection Software Date: 08 May 1998 07:26:33 -0700 Hello, I use Keep It Compact for my CDs, which you can see at: http://www.keepitcompact.com/main.htm Also, on the page you will see a link to CDDB, on one of the CDDB pages there is a list of CD software and other database software. Gary At 08:36 PM 5/7/98 -0400, you wrote:=20 > > Can anyone share what kind of software they use to catalog their > cd/vinyl/8track and/or book collections?=A0 I'm getting ready to look for > some, and I would like opinions. > > Many thanks! -- Gary S. Mattingly -- gmatting@dnai.com -- http://www.dnai.com/~gmatting # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Zorn list Date: 08 May 1998 11:35:54 -0500 At 01:41 PM 5/8/98 UT, PeterR wrote: >If you're interested in joining the Zorn list, it's on the xmission server, just >like this list. I think you have to "subscribe zorn-list", but I forget the >exact mechanics. Just a note that the Zorn list could just as well be called the Knitting Factory list or the Downtown list. It ain't just Zorn (though he's the organizing principle). Here's the mechanics: To subscribe to zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "subscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/zorn-list/archive. These are organized by date. Problems? Email the list owner at zorn-list-owner@lists.xmission.com -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: (exotica) Marty Gold Date: 08 May 1998 10:00:11 PDT Has anyone heard Marty Gold & Orchestra's The Soundaroundus? (RCA, 1966) It's billed as "A Marriage of Music and Electronics", but Spider Sense is tingling. Does "electronics" here refer to newfangled recording techniques which add an extra dose of sap to lush springs, or is this a genuinely strange and/or interesting recording? Thank you, BW ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Quincy - Soundtrack? Date: 08 May 1998 11:08:49 -0600 At 14:07 08/05/98 +0100, you wrote: > > >Does anyone know where the Quincy Jones track 'Snow Creatures' appears? Is >it on a soundtrack? Yeah, it's on "$" or known in the UK as "The Heist". FABULOUS soundtrack. Recently picked it up myself. Not an easy one to find, but worth the look. Weird ass stuff. Introduced to me by my good friend and fellow DJ Hush Puppy. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: 2525 Date: 08 May 1998 17:09:23 +0200 Moritz R wrote: >2. Cover-versions: I heard just one so far and don't even know who did >it. the version by Laibach on their cd "NATO" is hilariously over the top! it's also the only track i can bear ;-) Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be --- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: Re: (exotica) Sex Italian Style Date: 08 May 1998 15:06:01 +0000 > I'd like to alert all y'all to "Erotica Italia: The Kama Sutra of Italian > erotic movie music from the 1960s and 70s." It's available on double LP or > CD from Arista/BMG Eurodisc, compiled by the Sound Gallery guys. Tracks by > Morricone, Micallizzi, Trovajoli, etc. Extremely groovie--on par with the > Easy Tempo collections. But like "Stroboscopica," no film titles! as far as "stroboscopica" is concerned, the music compiled there wasn't used in any soundtrack. it's just music that was recorded for eventual use in movies, television breaks, documentaries, etc., but has always remained unissued ever since. bye gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: Re: (exotica) Sitar Date: 08 May 1998 15:06:00 +0000 jack wrote: > Just received a record from an Indian guy as in not "original American" but > waaaaaaaaaaaaay east. > "V. Balsara and His Singing Sitars - Golden Hits" > I was actually expecting another title but you don't want to give too much > away when looking/asking for weird LP's in general. > I was expecting Great International Hits but got Golden Hits instead on the > Indian "Odean" label, a subsidiary of those bastards, EMI I happen to have a recorded tape of "Great International Hits", complete with photocopy of cover and notes. Someone who listened to my radio show sent it anonimously to me, supposing that I may like it. I did it, indeed. Cannot imagine how someone here in Italy could have put his hands on this indian record. Anyone interested in tape swapping can make request. Tracklisting goes: 1. These Boots Are Made For Walking 2. Puppet On A String 3. My Favorite Things 4. I Want To Hold Your Hand 5. Sugar Town 6. Edelweiss 7. Do-Re-Mi 8. If I Had A Hammer 9. Strangers In The Night 10. Tequila 11. Lemon Tree 12. Lara's Theme Hi Jack and anyone Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: Re: (exotica) Yper Sound Date: 08 May 1998 21:31:50 +0000 Ray Coffey wrote: > > les_'YperSound > Is it also a play on words with the city Ypres , also known as Ieper (pron: > Yayper)?? > Is this a Belgian-influenced or produced record? and Chester Nimitz wrote: > Who came up with the term 'les ypersound' from the beginning? Just > wondering cos I've had Pierre Henry's "Psych Rock" on a mixtape for > a while and the guy who made the tape had the song written down on > the cassette-sleeve as 'Pierre Henry (Les Yper Sound): "Psych ROck"' > but then I got on this list and I see lots of artists have used the > term...I always assumed it was something Henry came up with but I > guess I was wrong.... Les Yper Sound was name of a group (?) who released a single of some commercial fame in France and Europe also (at least in Italy, I'm sure) at the end of the sixties (1969, I guess), on Fontana tf 260.103. A side was "Too Fortiche"; B side "Psyche Rock". Both songs are by Pierre Henry & Michel Colombier. Whether they are French or from Belgium, I don't know. Maybe Johan will help. A side is labelled as "jerk"; B as "rock". Notes in the back cover of my italian print 45 say (I'm roughly transalting from italian): "The research of new sonic material is the main goal for every modern composer and arranger. In the U.S.A. and U.K. there are clubs where beginners go to dance, but also - and above all - to get drunk of sounds in a sort of mysterious communion. Pierre Henry with Michel Colombier have composed one jerk and one rock in a way that nobody has ever listened before, stricly reserved to the in-crowd. It's sort of a cult: music that cannot be described. It has his own particular language, based on rhythm... must be listened in the dark, standing still or dancing... has many hidden virtues... he who knows how to melt with this music finds himself in a special state that opens a world of colors and unknown sounds..." (notes by Charles Davoust). You can find "Psyche Rock" reissued on beat/psych cd comp. "Turds On A Bum Ride" vol. 6 (or 7). Hi Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: RE: (exotica) Sitar Date: 08 May 1998 16:18:20 -0400 > > Indian "Odean" label, a subsidiary of those bastards, EMI V. Balsara and His Singing Sitars - Great International Hits. On the back cover, at the bottom, for whatever reason, it reads "Dum Dum"! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MUV96TBD@Student2.lu.se (Kenny Brockelstein) Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Siesta Records Date: 09 May 1998 00:54:00 +0100 > I would like to know more about the Siesta artists and plan to buy >some more. Is anyone familiar with Siesta arists Laila Amazon, La >Buena Vida , Holiday, Minema, Moving Pictures, Loius Phillipe or the >Red Sleeping Beauty Sountrack? Here's what I know about these artists (it's not much): Red Sleeping Beauty come from Sweden, haven't heard them but they supposedly play pretty anorak-y C86 pop (C86 was a tapecompilation New Musical Express put together with that year's English wave of jingle-jangly west coast psych Byrds/Association/Love/Velvets influenced bands). Holiday have been described as "American sugarsweet guitar pop for friends of pop like Ivy, Field Mice and The Smiths". Sean O'Hagan from the High Llamas guests on Laila Amazian's (correct spelling) album which is suppsedly in a Astrud Gilberto bossa nova-style. Alright, hope this was to some help, I told ya guys I didn't know much about this! :) On another note, I ordered the new Pizzicato 5 remix-CD but haven't heard it yet - what can I expect? How much have the original Happy End songs been remodeled, remixed, or rearranged?? I'm particularly curious about the High Llamas remix, anyone heard it? Kenny Brockelstein # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Re: Siesta Records Date: 08 May 1998 20:46:11 EDT I heard the P-5 remix CD today at my favorite record shop and I was very disappointed...I have become a big fan of theirs thanks to Br. Cleve and knew the stuff that was re-mixed to the point of knowing the originals are far better to these ears # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryls Subject: (exotica) Playlist for The Single Eye, May 10 Date: 09 May 1998 00:03:08 -0400 "The Single Eye" can be heard every Sunday at 4pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and is hosted by Brian and Cheryl. Comments & questions welcome. May 10 - As the 15th International Festival Musique Actuelle at Victoriaville (FIMAV) unspools next weekend, this (and next) week's Single Eye features acts we'd like to see at the Festival - some will be appearing, some have appeared, and some...? Lars Hollmer: Starlep Signs "Vill Du Hora Mer" Pascal Comelade: La Bolangera, La Gala de Campdevanol "Un Tal Jazz" Pierre Bastien & Mecanium: Inanga Conga "Musiques Machinales" FM Einheit: Dia Mauer/Akt 1 "Prometheus-Lear" Muslimgauze: Stars of Golan Heights "Maroon" A Certain Frank: Kismet "A Certain Frank" Frieder Butzmann: Dive Bombers "Dive Bombers" Conrad Schnitzler: Fete Champetre "Con Brio" Nurse With Wound: Yagga Blues "Yagga Blues" Tom Recchion: Free Of Ice "Chaotica" Il Gran Teatro Amaro: Ascoltando I Vicini, Afterhours "Piazza Orphelins" Lars Hollmer: Baldis "Vill Du Hora Mer" cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steven Peterson" Subject: (exotica) Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 00:27:36 -0500 Date: 08 May 1998 22:33:54 -0600 Hi to all, I don't mean to change the subject(s) that are going on at the present time, but I have one question that I hope someone can answer. Does anyone know if the Les Baxter album, " Space Escapades " is available on cd? Steve speterso@isoa.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "keir keightley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Staged for Stereo/80 Drums Around the World Date: 09 May 1998 03:47:47 PDT Well, that's another sort of mystery.... But it gives me an excuse to repost my still unanswered question: Has anyone ever seen an LP by "80 Drums Around the World", or are they actually an invention of Brad UltraLounge who didn't like the sound of "Bob Thompson's Battery"?? From BossaNovaVille, Keir >From: Sam_Wick@sonymusic.com >To: kkeightley@hotmail.com >Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 01:01:19 -0700 >Subject: Re: (exotica) Staged for Stereo/80 Drums Around the World Mystery > ... > >I will be out of the office from 5/11 - 5/22. I will not be checking e-mail >messages until I return. For all issues that cannot wait until I return, >please contact Jen Bryant at (310) 449-2185 > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Russo" Subject: Re: (exotica) Quincy - Soundtrack? Date: 09 May 1998 06:11:35 -0700 >>Does anyone know where the Quincy Jones track 'Snow Creatures' appears? Is >>it on a soundtrack? > >Yeah, it's on "$" or known in the UK as "The Heist". FABULOUS soundtrack. I second Jill's sentiments! "$" is my personal fave QJ ST. Second must be THE LOST MAN. C. "Ratso" Russo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: (exotica) Mildew and cocktails Date: 09 May 1998 09:24:42 -0500 (CDT) m.ace wrote: >Does anyone know some good methods for dealing with mildew on records and >covers? (especially covers -- got some rather overpowering specimens here) Here's a recipe from Steve Milgram, who ran the great Deetroit used record store Sam's Jams for many years. (Don't know if Sam's still exists. Any Detrioters out there who could enlighten me?) A fine cleaner for vinyl, although it will probably strip the four-color inks from record sleeves: Sam's Jam's Secret Sauce One part denatured alcohol Two parts distilled water Mix and wipe on yer viny with a soft cloth. A little goes a long way. And if anyone would like a recipe for Lebanese-style grilled chicken, write offlist. MimiM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: arthur lyman: Sonic Sixties Date: 09 May 1998 14:07:42 +0200 Jordana Robinson wrote: >Sonic Sixties is pretty much >easy listening, with pleasant vibey versions of 60s pop hits. > > it's not too crazy, mellow, pretty and nice. exactly, though i liked it _very very_ much, i love those vibes! it's a bit jazzy too, AND it contains the one and only version of Popp's "love is blue" that i can stand ;-) Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be --- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) THE VOODOO RHYTHM NEWS Date: 08 May 1998 20:46:17 +0200 forwared from: Beat Zeller Lightning Beat-Man and the Never heard of'EMS - Apartment Wrestling Rock'n'Roll (12" LP VR1202) 4 jears ago Lightning Beat-Man released his first Album :10" LP (Wrestling Rock'n'Roll,Record Junkie) and in this 4 jears alot of things happend,there where alot of singles released by labels all around the World such as Bag of Hammers,Demolition Derby,Wild Wild,G.I.,Mad driver... and playing alot of shows around Europe,Paris,London ,Madrid.... NOW is the time to present you his new album,on this album you gonna here the Lightning Beat-Man one man band stuff, songs from radio sessions from around the world,and songs together with his backing band "the never heard of'EMS" (Dink Winkerton,guitar Duro Duro,Double bass Gringo Starr drums) there will be record release tour in germany and austria,on this tour you can buy a special Silk screen on fabric cover only pressed 300, we don't gonna sell those over the Voodoo Rhyhtm Mail order!!! but i gonna send some of those copies to Sound Flat (Soundflat@t-online.de) in germany and you can order them directly,you have to hury there are not many copies like that!!! anyway if you are in europe and come to the shows,you have a cope for shure15.Mai : Wien,flex (A) 16.Mai : Munchen,Atomic Cafe (D)17.Mai : Dresden,riesa e.V (D)18.Mai: Bautzen, steinhaus D)19.Mai : Nurnberg,LGB (D)20.Mai : Frankfurt am main,Ostclub (D)21.Mai : Munster,gleis 22 (D)22.Mai : Bremen,Bremenale (D)23.Mai : Leonberg,beatbarracke (D) or there gona be a record release party in Dojo (Reithalle Bern,Switzerland 5.Juni) with a Lightning Beat-Man Impersonation Contest... come as Lightning Beat-Man,and play a song on stage !!! the Worst Lightning Beat-Man impersonator get a free limited edition Record and a set of Lightning Beat-Man trading Cards !!! anyway if you wana order some records please use our Distributers thats Rec Rec ,EFA, or Clear Spot,or you can order direct: Voodoo Rhythm c/oBeat'MAN' Zeller Laengassstrasse 57 3012 Bern Switzerland tel/Fax ++41(0)31 302 52 86 http://www.bboxbbs.ch/home/voodoo Stay Wild and Stay Wrestling Voodoo Rhyhtm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Record Collection Software Date: 09 May 1998 15:07:43 +0200 my personal experience is that it is sometimes best to build it yourself, with an easy to use yet powerful database application like filemaker pro. if you have a mac, you don't have much of a choice either, because all the prefab commercial music databases out there are for windowz... Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be --- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Teletubbies & "pingu" Date: 09 May 1998 14:52:23 +0200 BasicHip wrote: >I just picked up a CD from the Teletubbies television show marketed for one- >year olds. i've been trying to tape them on vhs, but somehow i always miss them, maybe the emission hour mentioned in my tv guide is wrong... so i'm glad to hear there's a cd! they seem to have some cult following, because they're so completely mad. another children's program worth checking if it's on your cable is called "pingu", made in switzerland i think, starring pinguins dolls, who produce an incredibly hilarious out-of-space like, high pitched nonsense talk :) Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be --- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ghostown@ix.netcom.com Subject: (exotica) Fwd: Lucia Pamela's Granddaughter Date: 09 May 1998 01:23:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net (relay4.smtp.psi.net [38.9.52.2]) by ixmail6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.7-s-4/8.8.7/(NETCOM v1.01)) with ESMTP id WAA11731; for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 22:26:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [38.220.41.2] (helo=ntmail.lacba.com) by relay4.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for ghostown@ix.netcom.com id 0yXffk-0006mo-01; Fri, 8 May 1998 01:26:16 -0400 Received: from anx-arc2155.deltanet.com by ntmail.lacba.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1458.49) id JWXZYFJY; Thu, 7 May 1998 22:25:19 -0700 Comments: Authenticated sender is MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: kirkb@deltanet.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Message-Id: Her name is Noel Irwin Hentschel. She's running for Lt. Governor of the state of California. I am in possession of her four-page color campaign brochure and it is bizarre in every sense of the word. Picture this. The cover: A perfectly coifed young republican complete with pearls, smiling in front of a portrait of Ronald Reagan, a banner below proclaims Hentschel to be "A True Reagan Republican". Worse yet, an inset photo pictures Ms. Hentshcel w/none other than current CA Attorney General Dan (the Anti-Christ) Lungren. Subsequent pages reveal that Hentschel is a business-woman who overcame great hardship during her childhood in Fresno and went on to start her own successful business. The brochure is loaded with the usual rightwing propaganda - fighting drugs and crime, supporting religion and family values, blah blah blah. Nothing original here. More entertaining is the series of photos of Hentschel with a truly astounding array of characters, including: Dan Quayle, Pete Wilson, Mother Teresa and . . . LUCIA PAMELA!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, that's right, Lucia. The photo appears to be at least 40 years old. Hentschel is an infant in this picture. Her grandmother is holding her proudly and smiling for the camera. The picture is entirely out of place in the context of the brochure. Even more strange, she is not identified simply as "Noel's grandmother," but instead she is "Noel's grandmother, Lucia Pamela". As if the name itself will draw votes (it just might, but unfortunately not from me). Many questions come to mind. What were they thinking? Are there actually Republican political consultants who worship Lucia (possible when you consider the lyrics, "No more taxes, No more bills, Just doing the Flip Flop Fly")? Is Lucia even aware that her image is being used in this manner? Or is she somehow behind it all (in which case, maybe I should be voting for Hentschel). The mind boggles. For those so inclined, you can learn more about Noel and her campaign at: www.teamnoel.org. Unfortunately, a quick scan of her web site reveals no pictures of Lucia (only poorly dithered photos of Noel). Kirk Biglione kirkb@deltanet.com http://users.deltanet.com/users/kirkb/ ................................................... PGP Public Key Fingerprint: 52 D1 ED 84 32 82 13 75 03 EB F8 2D 70 B1 D0 38 Finger kirkb@delta1.deltanet.com for PGP 2.6 public key # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Record Collection Software Date: 10 May 1998 15:29:53 +0100 There are freeware versions of music databases built on commercial platforms. I never found one that I was happy with and have not looked for quite some time, so I have no recommendations or hints where to look. I guess making my own would solve that problem though.... I'll put that the list of projects I'm not likely going to get to. Johan Dada Vis wrote: > my personal experience is that it is sometimes best to build it yourself, > with an easy to use yet powerful database application like filemaker pro. > if you have a mac, you don't have much of a choice either, because all the > prefab commercial music databases out there are for windowz... > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod Subject: Re: (exotica) Mildew and cocktails Date: 09 May 1998 21:59:49 EDT In a message dated 98-05-09 10:25:55 EDT, you write: << >Does anyone know some good methods for dealing with mildew on records and >covers? (especially covers -- got some rather overpowering specimens here) >> I still like the brillo pad and comet suggestion from awhile back. Mr. Solvent, Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jbtwist Subject: (exotica) Rat Pack Special Date: 09 May 1998 22:57:11 EDT Guess NOBODY gets the TV Land cable channel, as i don't recall seeing any posts about the Rat Pack Special 3 weeks ago. In short, Dino was the Ultimate Crooner, it was easy to see why all the housewives loved him. Sammy was Mr. Entertainment, especially a 3 song medley backed by only a drummer and a conga player, during which he danced the Monkey, Jerk, Mashed Potatoes and Frug. Frank was Frank, and the Count Basie Band led by Quincy Jones swung hard. Johnny Carson even 'sang' a verse in the closing cut-up session with all four out there, drinks in hand and obviously feelin no pain. Some of the antics were funny (use of off-stage mike to sling zingers while each other performed), some not so funny, but damn, there must have been some incredible live shows back then. TV Land tacked on a lame pie fight from an appearance by Frank, Sammy and Trini Lopez on the Soupy Sales show. (Frank made it oh-so-hip to get pied by Soupy after he did it on Soupy's nighttime network show). All in all, quite a show. A matronly cellist with cats-eye glasses beamed with delight from her front row seat in the second orchestra on stage. JB "Ol Brown Eyes' Twist # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) Techno Ken Date: 10 May 1998 11:08:52 +0200 Some kind of lounge techno version of Ken Nordine's "Flibberty Jib" can be found on the album For the Whole Family by Lord Runningclam. Makes me wonder why he isn't sampled more often in modern day dance music. Arjan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Clark" Subject: (exotica) spare copies of elpees Date: 10 May 1998 19:58:10 +0100 hi all following recent posts ... I have brand new spare copies of the following vinyl elpees if anyone's interested (not really my thang y'see) Piero Umiliani - Today's Sound Various Italian Movie Music Composers - Erotica Italia UK shop price plus postage at cost from London email me if y'interested phil # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Record Collection Software Date: 10 May 1998 21:38:34 +0100 Whatever software you use, you still have to spend days typing in all the information. If you're cataloging newish vinyl or CDs, maybe a barcode scanner is a good idea. Simply scan all your barcodes and hey presto or voila or something, your music is catalogued. I have been told by my insurance company that I have to catalogue all my old records individually so that they are insured for their correct value. I considered writing the names of all of them down, using a database to catagorise them all, barcoding all of them or even photgraphing all of them (perhaps with digital camera and imaging software). In the end, I said bollocks to it all and they are still uncategorised. Lets hope I don't have a fire. Merry May to all, Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Identify the vinyl.. Date: 10 May 1998 22:28:49 +0100 Hi, I know it's considered bad form to read the National Enquirer, but this week's edition (p21) has a beautiful picture of Audrey Hepburn taken in 1954. She's wearing a plaid shirt and short shorts, and is sorting out albums to play on her Columbia autochanger. The albums are tantalizingly only partly visible, but include - Gerry Mulligan Quartet - 'Recuerdos' by Carlos ??????? - 'Love Songs for a ??????????G' (possibly Romantic Evening) - ? album not in sleeve, on Mercury Olympian Series label. - 'African ????' - jazz recording. A couple more sleeves are partly visible, and may be identifiable by their graphics. Anyone identify more details please? Mini article about Audrey is headed "Hollywood and Vinyl". Eeek! Thanks, Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Giorgio Date: 11 May 1998 01:16:42 +0000 Does anybody know, when Giorgio (Moroder) had his No.1 Hit "Son of my father" in England? I found this funny LP ("Giorgio") that he made right after the hit. It has his early attempts to create synthiepop music. But how early? No date on it... MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryls Subject: Re: (exotica) Giorgio Date: 10 May 1998 21:41:59 -0400 Moritz R wrote: > > Does anybody know, when Giorgio (Moroder) had his No.1 Hit "Son of my > father" in England? I found this funny LP ("Giorgio") that he made right after the hit. It has his early attempts to create synthiepop music. But how early? No date on it... > Very early 70's - I remember hearing it on the radio, but I don't remember the exact year. Probably well before 1975, if I'm not mistaken. cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Giorgio Date: 10 May 1998 23:11:25 -0700 At 01:16 AM 5/11/98 +0000, you wrote: > >Does anybody know, when Giorgio (Moroder) had his No.1 Hit "Son of my >father" in England? I found this funny LP ("Giorgio") that he made right >after the hit. It has his early attempts to create synthiepop music. But >how early? No date on it... > >MO The single "Son of my Father" peaked on the American charts in April 1972. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: [Brian Phillips: RE: (exotica) Sitar] Date: 11 May 1998 11:19:02 +0100 > From: "Brian Phillips" > > > > Indian "Odean" label, a subsidiary of those bastards, EMI > > V. Balsara and His Singing Sitars - Great International Hits. > On the back cover, at the bottom, for whatever reason, it reads "Dum Dum"! > That's the name of an Indian town. I think dum dum bullets were first manufactured there. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Giorgio Date: 11 May 1998 06:04:28 -0600 At 01:16 11/05/98 +0000, you wrote: > >Does anybody know, when Giorgio (Moroder) had his No.1 Hit "Son of my >father" in England? I found this funny LP ("Giorgio") that he made right >after the hit. It has his early attempts to create synthiepop music. But >how early? No date on it... I'm pretty sure that this was number one by another artist. Giorgio is probably just covering it. It was No. 1 by some 70 (early) British band. Someone out there in the UK should know it.If no one else responds, I'll track down the band name. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Giorgio Moroder Date: 11 May 1998 16:29:33 +0000 Jill Mingo wrote: > I'm pretty sure that this was number one by another artist. Giorgio is > probably just covering it. It was No. 1 by some 70 (early) British band. > Someone out there in the UK should know it.If no one else responds, I'll > track down the band name. No, it was written by Moroder / Bellotte / Holm. Pete Bellotte is Moroders then-musician (Giorgio couldn't read notes and had to paint coloured dots on the key of the piano) and Holm could be Michael Holm, German Schlager-singer, although that would kind of surprise me. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com (Lou Smith) Subject: (exotica) fwd: Coney Island Mermaid Parade in JUNE Date: 11 May 1998 15:32:21 GMT Here's a note about one of NYC's great exotic events: The Coney Island Mermaid Parade is scheduled for Saturday June 27, 1998. Attractions will include beautiful antique cars near which you can be photographed as well AS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC contests for best parade entries including for Best Mermaid. Some mermaids compete bare breasted. For more information, including the history of Coney Island and an inside look at the lives of carnival side show freaks go to: http://www.coneyislandusa.com. Ray Normandeau will be parade MC. http://www.buzznyc.com/actors/res.normandeau.raymond.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: RE: (exotica) Rat Pack Special Date: 11 May 1998 08:45:26 -0400 I get the TVLand channel and I taped said special, however, I haven't seen it yet. Thanks for the write-up! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david kasdorf Subject: Re: (exotica) Fwd: Lucia Pamela's Granddaughter Date: 09 May 1998 17:43:48 -0400 I loved the post on Lucia Pamela. I've been a huge fan ever since the early 80's when I was introduced to her on KFSR radio in Fresno ("This is Lucia Pamela telling you what to do in and around Fresno...") by Kirk Biglione, program director of what was then a truly great station. I managed even to scrape up a few copies of her LP, and in fact mark this as the onset of my passion for collecting "Incredibly Strange" records. Return visits to the area prove that the station is no longer interesting, but then I've been spoiled by years of WFMU. But I digress. Some time back, in a conversation with Irwin Chusid, a more recent convert, but the driving force behind the release of the CD, it was revealed that, alas, Lucia's mind is no longer as lucid as it once was. (Make of that what you will) I trust she is still alive; I haven't heard anything to the contrary, all of which to say she could very well be the "brains" behind the campaign. David Kasdorf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Yper Sound Date: 10 May 1998 20:40:46 +0200 >From: "Giovanni Berti" >Les Yper Sound was name of a group (?) who released a single of some >commercial fame in France and Europe also (at least in Italy, I'm >sure) at the end of the sixties (1969, I guess), on Fontana tf >260.103. A side was "Too Fortiche"; B side "Psyche Rock". >Both songs are by Pierre Henry & Michel Colombier. Whether they are >French or from Belgium, I don't know. Maybe Johan will help. sorry, no idea, i haven't heard of them before. the label "fontana" doesn't give a clue either, as it appeared in uk, belgium, france, and maybe other countries... Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be --- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Les Baxter album, " Space Escapades " is available on cd? Date: 11 May 1998 15:42:43 +0200 nope, it isn't. The "eXotica Releases Overview": # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Subject: (exotica) Clara Rockmore Date: 11 May 1998 10:51:03 -0700 I'm sure Lou "I find it out before anyone else does" Smith has already told you all BUT if there is a FREAK chance that he didn't; Clara Rockmore, beloved friend, mentor, consummate musician and virtuoso of the theremin, died peacefully at 9:30 Sunday morning at her home. Her family was at her bedside during the last few days of her life, and just two days earlier she learned of the birth of her first great grandniece. Clara had previously said "If it's a boy he'll be another Jascha Heifetz. If it's a girl, she'll be a Clara Rockmore". So we shall hope. An obituary will appear in Tuesday's "New York Times". Funeral services will be held the following day. Clara's death signals the end of a chapter in the extraordinary story of Leon Theremin and his remarkable instrument. Her life and artistry will serve as inspiration to carry on the truly fine theremin tradition that she established. It is the end of a chapter in a book that has just begun. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) Downhill Racer Date: 12 May 1998 01:21:55 -0400 I have this very anonymous album which supposedly has tunes from "Midnight Cowboy", "Easy Rider" and "Downhill Racer". It's on Design and there's a big picture of a blonde cowboy, resembling Jon Voight but I don't think it's him. No band credits, not even a made-up name. In any case, there's this absolutely stunning cut called "Florida Dream" which the record seems to imply comes from "Downhill Racer". Does anyone know? Is there a Downhill Racer soundtrack? Is that a tune on the soundtrack? Here it's done with vibes and wordless vocals and a Latinesque feel and the tune is very reminiscent of some great lost Bond theme. The whole thing is way too good to be so anonymous. Any info? Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Les Belikian" Subject: Re: (exotica) Giorgio Moroder Date: 11 May 1998 22:43:20 -0700 I'm fairly sure the band Jill's referring to was Chicory Tip, whom I remember as having just that one hit back in the earlier part of the glam/glitter era. Les >Jill Mingo wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure that this was number one by another artist. Giorgio is >> probably just covering it. It was No. 1 by some 70 (early) British band. >> Someone out there in the UK should know it.If no one else responds, I'll >> track down the band name. > >No, it was written by Moroder / Bellotte / Holm. Pete Bellotte is Moroders >then-musician (Giorgio couldn't read notes and had to paint coloured dots on >the key of the piano) and Holm could be Michael Holm, German Schlager-singer, >although that would kind of surprise me. > >MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Giorgio Moroder Date: 12 May 1998 00:20:41 -0700 On Rhino's CD "Have a Nice Day - Super Hits of the '70s Volume 7", last track, is "Giorgio - Son of my Father", and it lists the song peaking on the US charts in April, 1972. The liner notes indicate this was the first hit as an artist for Giorgio Moroder, and after tasting mega-success as a producer in the later '70s, he would again return to the top 40 as an artist in 1979 with "Chase" from the film Midnight Express. I'm not sure about Chicory Tip, but Giorgio Moroder (as "Giorgio") did indeed co-write and record that song! dave At 10:43 PM 5/11/98 -0700, you wrote: > >I'm fairly sure the band Jill's referring to was Chicory Tip, >whom I remember as having just that one hit back in the >earlier part of the glam/glitter era. > >Les # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: (exotica) Phuture Lounge playlist - 10 May. Date: 12 May 1998 04:21:18 -0600 Again, folks. Here is my playlist for Sunday, 10th May Phuture Lounge show on Subcity Radio, Glasgow, Scotland. It is on 106.2 FM from 3.30pm - 5pm hosted by myself, DJ Mingo-go. This weeks show was co-hosted by BONGO BOY from Edinburgh. Any more info needed, email me. 5TH DIMENSION "The Girls Song" FREE DESIGN "You Could Be Born Again" CAL TJADER "The Fakir" JOHN BARRY "Kinky" MORTON STEVENS "Front Street" VENTURES "Starsky & Hutch" LALO SCHIFRIN "Magnum Force" APRIL STEVENS "I Need a Lip" SERGIO MENDES & BRASIL 66 "Lost in Paradise" ALAN LORBER ORCH. "Mas Que Nada" FRANCE GALL "Baby Pop" PIZZICATO 5 "Porno 3003" DICK HYMAN & MARY MAYO "Moon Gas" RESTAURANT TRACKS "We Want Reggae (Because It Makes Us Feel Sexy)" G104 "P.A.R.T.Y." EAST OF SUEZ "Harem" G104 "K.U.N.G." TURN ON "Ru Tenone" THE HIGH LLAMAS "Homespun Rerun" CHRIS MONTEZ "Girl Talk" BEATLES "Good Day Sunshine" NANCY & LEE "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) La Locura Del Rock´n Roll Date: 12 May 1998 06:28:39 PDT La Locura Del Rock´n Roll English title: Crazy About Rock & Roll. A mexican film made 1956 with music AND acting by Esquivel! I sure would like to see it... http://azteca-films.com/pelicula/LaLoollZ.htm --- Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NATHAN MINER Subject: (exotica) Comp tapes..... Date: 12 May 1998 08:58:55 -0400 Hey Basic Hip - got your package the other day. Thanks for the added info about Moog. Haven't listened to the tapes yet. Will post the results. - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com (Lou Smith) Subject: (exotica) fwd: CDnow Puts 20 Years OF CMJ's Content at the Fingertips of Music Shoppers Date: 12 May 1998 15:20:50 GMT This is a commercial announcement (with all the hype) but it may be of interest to some of y'all. Hope no one minds. --Lou CMJ, The Leading Authority on New Music Partners with CDnow, The Leading Online MusicStore GREAT NECK, N.Y., and JENKINTOWN, Penn., May 11 /PRNewswire/ -- College Media, Inc. (CMJ), the industry leader in the discovery and promotion of new artists, and CDnow (Nasdaq: CDNW), the Internet's number one music store, today announced a four-year exclusive alliance to create the most informative alternative music shopping experience available. CDnow will now feature the tens of thousands of music reviews from the CMJ New Music Report and CMJ New Music Monthly. The agreement brings together CDnow's breadth of selection and music authority with CMJ's 20 years of content on emerging and cutting-edge artists. CMJ New Music Report, a music industry trade publication, began publishing in 1978. Its consumer-oriented sister publication, CMJ New Music Monthly, is now celebrating its fifth year of publication. CMJ's unique content, which will now be available on CDnow, runs the gamut of musical genres and includes extensive coverage of alternative music from its very beginning, roots and blues, jazz, metal, hip hop, Triple A, electronica, dance, world music, and more. Additionally, visitors reading reviews at the CMJ Online Web site can click through to CDnow to purchase the album. "CDnow's alliance with CMJ will create an enriched experience for music shoppers," says Jason Olim, CDnow CEO and President. "CMJ is the standard in the industry for news about emerging artists, and CDnow continues to set the standards for online music retailing. About 80% of CDnow customers are purchasing hard to find and non-hit driven artists, and CMJ's content will help them discover new artists they may not have heard before." "CDnow is the perfect type of partner for CMJ," adds CMJ President & Publisher Robert Haber. "We share common goals and similar histories. From humble beginnings in our parents' basements to becoming leaders in our respective fields, to our shared commitment to the promotion of new and developing artists. We believe that no other publisher in the world has amassed the kind of database that CMJ has over the past two decades, with such a strong focus on new and emerging artists and sounds. We are delighted to have entered into this arrangement with CDNow -- a company that has quickly established itself as the clear leader in the world of online music retailing. We are also pleased that we will now be able to offer CDnow's impressive array of services to the visitors to CMJ's own website." College Media, Inc. was founded in 1979 by Robert Haber, who began publishing a mimeographed trade journal called CMJ New Music Report out of his parents' basement. From that time forward, CMJ New Music Report has distinguished itself and risen to prominence as, to quote the Los Angeles Times, "the bible of new music." Today, in addition to CMJ New Music Report, CMJ also publishes CMJ New Music Monthly, which brings CMJ's expertise to the music consumer -- along with a compact disc in every issue, and CMJ Online ( http://www.cmj.com ), which brings CMJ's expertise to the web. CMJ also hosts the annual four-day music industry convention and band showcase known as CMJ New Music Marathon & MusicFest. CDnow, Inc (cdnow.com) offers more than 250,000 music related items -- five times the size of the average music store. Founded in 1994 by twin brothers Jason and Matthew Olim, CDnow is building a better music store by offering music fans personalized album recommendations, music samples and a vast library of information on artists, releases, reviews and features from top writers in the music industry. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: RE: (exotica) Downhill Racer Date: 12 May 1998 07:19:22 -0400 > In any case, there's this absolutely stunning cut called "Florida Dream" > which the record seems to imply comes from "Downhill Racer". Does anyone > know? That sounds like "Florida Fantasy", which is one of my favorite tracks on "Midnight Cowboy", which is played in a bizarre dream sequence. Barry's arrangement is played with an electronic keyboard (Arp? Moog?), percussion and saxophones. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Beat at Cinecitta VOL 1 <-> 2 Date: 11 May 1998 20:01:49 +0200 >From: Jack >All the Easy Tempo Volumes RULE and Beat at Cinecitta VOL 1 is equally >tremendous. Vol 2 is the 1 I have heard to stay away from, though I have >not heard it right, i'd give vol 1 a rating of 5, and vol 2 only a 4, both on a scale of 5 Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be --- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: THE MOOD MOSAIC Date: 11 May 1998 20:03:28 +0200 >Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:10:53 EST >From: BasicHip >...and then there were the MOOD MOSAIC releases from England. The MArk Wirtz >go-go one (vol 1) and the Thriller Memorandum spy one (vol 2). on RPM. were >there more than 2? OST by Les Reed: "Girl on a motorcycle (Mood Mosaic Volume 3)" (CD, RPM RPM 171, UK, 1997) The "eXotica Releases Overview": # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: (exotica) Re: Beat at Cinecitta VOL 1 <-> 2 Date: 12 May 1998 19:07:15 +0100 > From: Johan Dada Vis > >From: Jack > > >All the Easy Tempo Volumes RULE and Beat at Cinecitta VOL 1 is equally > >tremendous. Vol 2 is the 1 I have heard to stay away from, though I have > >not heard it > > right, i'd give vol 1 a rating of 5, and vol 2 only a 4, both on a > scale of 5 > I really didn't like Vol. 2 that much when I first got it. However, on relistening it has grown and grown on me; I now love it as much as the first one. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee Subject: Re: (exotica) Comp tapes..... Date: 12 May 1998 16:19:48 EDT If your BasicHip tapes are as good as mine, you'll surely exit with a smirk ;-) (they're great) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: Re: (exotica) Les Baxter album, " Space Escapades " is available Date: 12 May 1998 22:32:11 +0000 No, but one track ("Saturday Night on Saturn") appears on volume 3 of Ultra Lounge. Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MUV96TBD@Student2.lu.se (Kenny Brockelstein) Subject: (exotica) Kelsey Grammer from Cheers likes the Siesta label! Date: 12 May 1998 23:44:52 +0100 I got this from a friend, and he got it in turn from someone else: >Newsflash: Sideshow Bob likes the Free Design! > >>Kelsey Grammer (TV's Frasier) came into my work today!!! >>well, i work at a retail store and among my menial duties i just happened to >>be the so-called "muzak director." i had Free Design along with They Go >>Boom!!, Acid House Kings, La Buena Vida, and Otis Redding in the background. >>and guess what? he loved Free Design and asked where he could get a hold of >>it. so i gave him a little bio on them and told him that he can get it through >>Siesta label! thanks Siesta for making my "celebrity encounter" a delightful >>experience... he'll be getting in touch with you real soon! Pretty cool, eh? Anyone know any other celebrities being into Exotica? Kenny Brockelstein # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Kelsey Grammer from Cheers likes the Siesta label! Date: 12 May 1998 15:49:34 +0000 Kenny Brockelstein wrote: > > > Pretty cool, eh? Anyone know any other celebrities being into Exotica? Mamie and Ike dug Danny Guglielmi, and reportedly were into the 3 Suns. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com (Lou Smith) Subject: (exotica) fwd: The Sync Adds More Movies Date: 13 May 1998 00:28:29 GMT The Sync Adds More Movies If you're searching for some fun online, check out The Sync's newly added cult movies, available on demand in Real Video format. You can now watch Richard Blackburn's controversial 1972 vampire thriller "Lemora, Lady Dracula," which was declared "banned" by the Catholic FilmBoard at its premiere; Jason Paul Collum's "5 Dark Souls" (1997), an eerie mystery of students involved in a snuff film production; and the documentary of the septugenarian punk rock star and apocalyptic poet Dika Newlin, "Dika: Murder City" (1995). World Wide Web: http://thesync.com/ondemand # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Ledebur Subject: Re: (exotica) Techno Ken Date: 12 May 1998 21:47:56 -0400 "Arjan Plug" writes: >Some kind of lounge techno version of Ken Nordine's "Flibberty >Jib" can be found on the album For the Whole Family by Lord >Runningclam. Makes me wonder why he isn't sampled more >often in modern day dance music. For more recent Nordine sampling, check the title track from Towa Tei's "Sound Museum" album. Peter --- Music for Better Living Wed. 6-7pm -- WZBC 90.3fm Newton/Boston http://members.aol.com/Hifibliss/mfbl.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) The 101% styling list Date: 13 May 1998 11:04:10 +0000 When I came back from LA two years ago I made this list of what it takes to have a 101% tikial correct cocktailist appartment: 50 better 100 Tiki Mugs, large wooden and/or plastic Tiki, Lava lamp, glassball fishernet lamps, black velvet painting by Leeteg, 60s thriftshop painting (abstract), Bamboo bar, 50s TV set, Disneyland poster (Tiki room/Jungle cruise/Adventureland), Lava Hawaiian ashtrays, Old editions of National geographic casually lying around Exotica record collection Any additions? MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) The 101% styling list Date: 13 May 1998 03:20:48 -0600 At 11:04 13/05/98 +0000, you wrote: > >When I came back from LA two years ago I made this list of what it takes >to have a 101% tikial correct cocktailist appartment: > >50 better 100 Tiki Mugs, >large wooden and/or plastic Tiki, >Lava lamp, glassball fishernet lamps, >black velvet painting by Leeteg, >60s thriftshop painting (abstract), >Bamboo bar, >50s TV set, >Disneyland poster (Tiki room/Jungle cruise/Adventureland), >Lava Hawaiian ashtrays, >Old editions of National geographic casually lying around Forget these. You need 1960s copies of Playboy. >Exotica record collection > >Any additions? Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Double LPs: sides 1/4 &2/3 Date: 13 May 1998 11:52:13 +0000 On some older Double-LPs you find on the first record the sides 1 and 4 and on the second 2 and 3. Does anyone know why? MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Double LPs: sides 1/4 &2/3 Date: 13 May 1998 05:16:11 -0600 At 11:52 13/05/98 +0000, you wrote: > >On some older Double-LPs you find on the first record the sides 1 and 4 >and on the second 2 and 3. Does anyone know why? Sure. In the 60s and 70s they had those stereos with automatic record changers.You would stack your records and they would drop down one by one. So if you wanted to hear your double LP, you would stack Side 1 and Side 2, then flip them both to hear 3 and 4. Does that make sense? Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "telstar" Subject: Re: (exotica) The 101% styling list Date: 13 May 1998 07:55:10 -0400 Moritz wrote: > When I came back from LA two years ago I made this list of what it takes > to have a 101% tikial correct cocktailist appartment: > > 50 better 100 Tiki Mugs, > large wooden and/or plastic Tiki, > Lava lamp, glassball fishernet lamps, > black velvet painting by Leeteg, > 60s thriftshop painting (abstract), > Bamboo bar, > 50s TV set, > Disneyland poster (Tiki room/Jungle cruise/Adventureland), > Lava Hawaiian ashtrays, > Old editions of National geographic casually lying around > Exotica record collection > > Any additions? I would add paintings by Tretchikoff...you know, those paintings of blue or green exotic looking women. I think these prints were everywhere in the late 50's/early 60's. Allan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Double LPs: sides 1/4 &2/3 Date: 13 May 1998 14:38:28 +0000 >On some older Double-LPs you find on the first record the sides 1 and 4 >and on the second 2 and 3. Does anyone know why? >Sure. In the 60s and 70s they had those stereos with automatic record >changers.You would stack your records and they would drop down one by one. >So if you wanted to hear your double LP, you would stack Side 1 and Side 2, >then flip them both to hear 3 and 4. Does that make sense? It does. Thank you! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) The 101% styling list Date: 13 May 1998 14:44:24 +0000 telstar wrote: > Moritz wrote: > > > When I came back from LA two years ago I made this list of what it takes > > to have a 101% tikial correct cocktailist appartment: > > > > 50 better 100 Tiki Mugs, > > large wooden and/or plastic Tiki, > > Lava lamp, glassball fishernet lamps, > > black velvet painting by Leeteg, > > 60s thriftshop painting (abstract), > > Bamboo bar, > > 50s TV set, > > Disneyland poster (Tiki room/Jungle cruise/Adventureland), > > Lava Hawaiian ashtrays, > > Old editions of National geographic casually lying around > > Exotica record collection > > > > Any additions? > > I would add paintings by Tretchikoff...you know, those paintings of > blue or green exotic looking women. I think these prints were everywhere in > the late 50's/early 60's. > > Allan Well, yeah... paintings. Of course you'd need a painting by Moritz R ! I know that many like Tretchikoff. I myself am not such a big fan of him. But I can't really explain why. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Double LPs: sides 1/4 &2/3 Date: 13 May 1998 06:00:14 +0000 At 11:52 AM 5/13/98 +0000, Moritz wrote: >On some older Double-LPs you find on the first record the sides 1 and 4 >and on the second 2 and 3. Does anyone know why? Automatic record changers. Stack them...play sides 1 and 2, then pull off the stack, flip and play 3 and 4. Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: RE: (exotica) Double LPs: sides 1/4 &2/3 Date: 13 May 1998 10:47:02 -0400 > Automatic record changers. Stack them...play sides 1 and 2, then pull > off the stack, flip and play 3 and 4. ...repeat until record is ruined, which is why this practice was stopped. Semi-funny idea: release an album with no gatefold sleeve, say it is a double album and list the sides as Side one and Side Four. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: Re: (exotica) Double LPs: sides 1/4 &2/3 Date: 13 May 1998 11:46:16 -0500 >> Automatic record changers. Stack them...play sides 1 and 2, then >pull >> off the stack, flip and play 3 and 4. > >...repeat until record is ruined, which is why this practice was >stopped. The very thought of a record dropping and sliding on to another record while it's spinning makes me cringe. Jeff Hess _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MUV96TBD@Student2.lu.se (Kenny Brockelstein) Subject: (exotica) After The Fox/The Exotic Moods Of Les Baxter Date: 13 May 1998 18:57:28 +0100 Hey all, I finally got to hear the After The Fox OST today and...what a letdown it is! :( :( :( Burt Bacharach is my all time favourite songwriter but this really must be his worst recording ever....It was an awful surprise to hear...avoid it like the plague, if you ask me. Maybe it was supposed to be in the same 'cheery' mood as the movie (it's a comedy).....I dunno, but I do know I'll cancel my order from a company on the Net straight away. Did this album really meet the high expectations of other Bacharach fanatics on this list? Cos I wonder if I'm the only who doesn't like it and maybe you all think it's a masterpiece... On a more positive note, I bought The Exotic Moods Of Les Baxter and this is fantastic, really amazing, as most of you already know. 40 songs too!! Kenny Brockelstein # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pearmania Subject: (exotica) Baxter soundtracks Date: 13 May 1998 13:16:17 EDT I am a fan of Les Baxter's exotic albums. I noticed that the Citadel label has released two Baxter soundtracks on CD: Cry of the Banshee/Edgar Allan Poe Suite and Black Sunday/Baron Blood. Can anyone on the list offer recommendations to buy these? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) Baxter soundtracks Date: 13 May 1998 11:01:33 PDT If Black Sunday is really Black Sabbath, the 60's horror flick - I seem to recall that one having a fairly enjoyable score. There's even a little self-reflexive irony in it: one of the tales involves a hep young composer who while vacationing on a tropical aisle witnesses a native voodoo ceremony, he jots down the music and upon his return home he transcribes it as a jazz number. Unfortunately, this invokes bad juju and Dhambala whacks the guy. Then again, maybe this tale is from "Terror Train" (or similar)... but one thinks of Lester. And Citadel - the Australian label? BW I noticed that the Citadel label >has released two Baxter soundtracks on CD: Cry of the Banshee/Edgar Allan Poe >Suite >and Black Sunday/Baron Blood. Can anyone on the list offer recommendations to >buy these? > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NATHAN MINER Subject: Re: (exotica) Baxter soundtracks -Reply Date: 13 May 1998 14:13:02 -0400 Black Sunday and Black Sabbath are two different films - same director I think (Mario Bava, Italy). Black Sunday has Barbara Steele hauntin' up the joint. Black Sabbath is an omnibus with 5(?) stories. That's probably the one with the jazz musician. The first story is with Boris Karloff. - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) Baxter soundtracks -Reply Date: 13 May 1998 11:18:09 PDT "while vacationing on a tropical aisle" that would be opposite the frozen vegetable aisle. Damned spirochete, BW ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: Re:RE: (exotica) Double LPs: sides 1/4 &2/3 Date: 13 May 1998 19:31:11 UT << ...repeat until record is ruined, which is why this practice was stopped. Semi-funny idea: release an album with no gatefold sleeve, say it is a double album and list the sides as Side one and Side Four. >> I like that! Or, release it WITH a gatefold, and just leave the other side empty. PeterR now playing: Tzadik's Serge Gainsbourg Tribute # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) After The Fox/The Exotic Moods Of Les Baxter Date: 13 May 1998 13:01:30 -0700 At 06:57 PM 5/13/98 +0100, you wrote: > >Hey all, > >I finally got to hear the After The Fox OST today and...what a letdown it >is! :( :( :( Burt Bacharach is my all time favourite songwriter but this >really must be his worst recording ever....It was an awful surprise to >hear...avoid it like the plague, if you ask me. Maybe it was supposed to be >in the same 'cheery' mood as the movie (it's a comedy).....I dunno, but I >do know I'll cancel my order from a company on the Net straight away. Did >this album really meet the high expectations of other Bacharach fanatics on >this list? Cos I wonder if I'm the only who doesn't like it and maybe you >all think it's a masterpiece... I wouldn't call it a masterpiece, but I certainly enjoyed it. I found it to be somewhat in the same vein as Butch Cassidy, mood pieces for different scenes of the film - as as you noted, it WAS a comedy. And of course, his soundtrack work differs greatly from his "pop" work (aside from the single-with-vocals thrown in, in hopes of a hit single, like BJ Thomas in Butch Cassidy, The Hollies in After the Fox). So, while not his best work, soundtrack or otherwise, I would advise Bacharach fans to pick it up! dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "keir keightley" Subject: (exotica) Tretchikoff Styling... Date: 13 May 1998 13:08:26 PDT Accidentally, I swear, I happened to flip past the terrible Joe Pesci film _Jimmy Hollywood_ the other night, and what was hanging on his apartment wall...? Yup, the one from the first Sound Gallery CD, I think. I guess at least the set designer had taste.... From BossaNovaVille, Keir ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: RE: (exotica) Double LPs: sides 1/4 &2/3 Date: 13 May 1998 21:25:41 +0100 I've only ever seen double 12" albums - did they ever issue double 10" albums in the 50's? Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MUV96TBD@Student2.lu.se (Kenny Brockelstein) Subject: (exotica) Les Baxter Date: 13 May 1998 22:39:07 +0100 So the Exotic Moods cover everything up to 1960 - are there any Baxter compilations which continue with what he did in the sixties? Kenny Brockelstein # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Ayi-yi-yi Date: 13 May 1998 17:19:12 -0500 LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Riding the wave of a new millennium, Southern California's signature rock group, the Beach Boys, are angling for crossover gold with mariachi versions of their top hits. This is music to the ears of Jose Hernandez, leader of the 15-member Mariachi Sol de Mexico. He has few doubts the distinctly Mexican style of music will deliver for the band that defined the California ``surfin' sound,'' with new renditions of old classics. His Los Angeles mariachi group collaborated with the Beach Boys on the new Spanish-language album, ``Acapulco Girls,'' due for release in May from the EMI Latin label. Songs like the Beach Boys' ``Fun, Fun, Fun'' and ``California Girls'' evoke images the world over of the early 1960s and freewheeling beach life. But Southern California, and Los Angeles in particular, are no longer synonymous with blonde teen-agers and surfboards. The fast-growing Hispanic community now accounts for about 30 percent of the total population and Latin music is booming. By 2040, Californians of Hispanic heritage could account for two-thirds of the population, according to some estimates. But legends die hard so Hernandez, dressed in a traditional tight ``charro'' outfit, will hold a surfboard and be surrounded by girls in bikinis on the new cover of the joint CD album. CROSSOVER DREAMS When Beach Boy Mike Love suggested the collaboration, Hernandez jumped at the chance. ``It made the album all that much better for us. It was the first time a group like that asked us to record with them,'' he said. Mariachi, a distinctive blend of strings and horns meant to tug heartstrings with romantic ballads or summon couples to the dance floor with irresistible rhythms, was well-suited to the Beach Boys' ``Kokomo,'' Hernandez said. ``This was the first time I recorded adding drums, organ and guitar, but we had to respect their style of music,'' he said. But ``California Girls,'' the second Beach Boys track, could not be directly translated. ``I went through the lyrics but decided it can't be a translation, it would have to be something they would be proud of in Mexico -- so we changed it to ''Acapulco Girls,'' Hernandez said. ``It's the same concept.'' Also, the rhythm had to be adjusted on ``Girls,'' he said. ''But the harmonies -- the oohs and aahs -- they are the same.'' He said it was tough at times getting the right pronunciation from the Beach Boys' phonetic rendering of the Spanish vocals, but they managed. Mariachi Sol de Mexico attracts huge crowds all over the United States, as well as in Mexico and throughout Latin America. In the United States, audiences are primarily Mexican American and Spanish-speaking Latins, but the Anglo contingent is growing. ``We are going to play Boise, Idaho, on the next tour,'' Hernandez noted matter-of-factly. But Mariachi Sol de Mexico does not limit itself to traditional cantina songs typically associated with four panzones (fat guys) wearing sombreros. EVERYBODY LOVES MARIACHI ``Everybody in Latin America serenades their girlfriend or their wife with mariachi -- because they see it in the movies. But it has evolved so much over the last 20 years it's almost like a classical art form,'' Hernandez explained. He has already made a name for himself with innovative mariachi versions of Glenn Miller swing era classics like ''Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy'' and unique arrangements for standards like ``New York, New York.'' Sol de Mexico goes even further in appearances around the world with symphonic orchestras, putting a mariachi spin on work by classical composers. ``We are debuting a concerto at Lincoln Center in New York and at the same time we are releasing an album with the Beach Boys,'' Hernandez noted. All of this is a big change from mariachi music's birth over 150 years ago in the western Mexico state of Jalisco. ``I am a fifth generation mariachi musician,'' Hernandez said. ``My dad came here in the 1940s when there was one place in Los Angeles that had mariachi music.'' Back then, the band had to pay the restaurant owner 25 cents a song to make up for the lost jukebox quarter. But his father, who maintained ``the day you see mariachi music as work is the day you die,'' kept on, helping to lay the foundation for Hernandez and other mariachi musicians. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Subject: (exotica) Domestic Issue "Man in Space With Sounds" Date: 13 May 1998 14:46:15 -0700 Hello all, Well, I have FINALLY received my Domestic (USA) Issue of the "Attilio Mineo Conducts Man in Space With Sounds" CD MUCH Better back cover art work with the ENTIRE 1962 Seattle State Space Needle Over 63 Minutes of Electronic Outer Space Brilliance like you never EVER heard $12 Plus Shipping; Please see it here; http://www.jackdiamond.com/attilio.htm All the many different types of music people who are buying AND have bought it; Outer Space, Seattle State World's Fair, (General) World's Fair, Hip Hop guys have been sampling the many different Electronics, Soundtrack-as the music was stolen and used in a number of B Movie Horror/Monster Soundtracks, Exotica and people who just love great unique sounds in general. The Reviews are starting to pour in and include; EYE Magazine, The Wire, Wired, San Francisco Chronicle Datebook, Raygun, Mod Magazine, Ink Magazine, Seattle Post, Backwash, Launch, The Stranger Magazine, IE Online, SMUG, Tacoma City Paper, LA Weekly, Alternative Press, San Francisco Bay Gaurdian, Billboard, CMJ/Flashback, Los Angeles Times, Seattle Weekly, Pulse and more to come $12 per CD + Shipping Wholesale Inquiries Welcome (USA) Jack Diamond Music Jack@JackDiamond.com Forced Exposure (Massachusetts) fe@shore.net Ask For Jimmy Nail Distribution (Portland, Oregon) nailinc@teleport.com Ask For Ingrid Subterranean (San Francisco, CA) subterra@hooked.net Ask for Steve Overseas Sales and Distribution; Stefan Kery Subliminal Sounds Stefan@subliminal.se Thank you all and bye for now Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Clara Rockmore - NYTimes Obit Date: 13 May 1998 18:17:35 -0500 Clara Rockmore, 88, Virtuosa Of an Unusual Instrument By Allan Kozinn Clara Rockmore, a musician who was trained as a violinist but became famous principally as a soloist on the theremin, an early electronic instrument, died on Sunday at her home in Manhattan. She was 88. The theremin, invented in 1920 by Leon Theremin, produces a pure, eerie, sliding tone that has been compared to a disembodied, wordless soprano voice or an enchanted cello. In recent years, thanks in part to a 1994 film "Theremin: An Electronic Odyssed," the instrument has developed a cult following, as has Ms. Rockmore, who appeared in the movie. She was also the focus of a video documentary, "Clara Rockmore, the Greatest Theremin Virtusoa," released last month. Describing Ms. Rockmore's performances, Steve Martin, the director of the theremin film, said, "Clara is to the theremin what Andr=E9s Segovia and= Jimi Hendrix combined are to the guitar." Ms. Rockmore was born Clara Reisenberg in Vilna (now Vilnius) in Lithuania. She showed considerable talent as a violinist before she was 4, and in 1915 she became the youngest musician ever admitted to the St. Petersburg Conservatory. Her principal teacher there was Leopold Auer, whose other students had included Mischa Elman and Jascha Heifetz. In the mid-1920's, Ms. Rockmore moved to New York, where she resumed her studies with Auer, who had also immigrated. After a few years, however, she began to have muscular and joint problems that curtailed her career as a violinist. At around that time, she met Theremin and decided to study his electronic instrument. She became his student and close friend; for her 18th birthday, he made her a cake that lit up and revolved whenever anyone approached. Ms. Rockmore's influence on the instrument itself included suggesting structural changes to improve its articulation. Ms. Rockmore gave one of the first theremin concerts in the United States, in 1934. The composer Anis Fuleihan wrote a concerto for her, and she preformed as a soloist with several orchestras, including the New York Philharmonic, the Philadelphia Orchestra, and the Toronto Symphony. Ms. Rockmore is survived by a sister, Anna Sherman of Manhattan. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) After The Fox/The Exotic Moods Of Les Baxter Date: 13 May 1998 19:28:58 -0400 At 06:57 PM 13/05/98 +0100, Kenny Brockelstein wrote: >I finally got to hear the After The Fox OST today and...what a letdown it >is! :Didthis album really meet the high expectations of other Bacharach fanatics on>this list? Cos I wonder if I'm the only who doesn't like it and maybe you >all think it's a masterpiece... With all due respect to those whose taste is different - and I'd say more "forgiving" - than mine, some people like EVERYTHING as long as it's made by a musician they generally enjoy. There was already one response to this post which essentially said "yeah it's not great but if you love Bacharach you should get it anyway". This is a common occurrence here on the exotica list. And in the world for that matter. I've bought records by Al Green, Curtis Mayfield, Neil Young, Lou Reed, Howlin Wolf... even Coltrane, that I didn't like that much. Either they really weren't up to standard or they just weren't the kind of Curtis that I like. And I think the same principle applies even MORE to the music discussed here where the musicians and arrangers made dozens - even hundreds - of records for various reasons under various circumstances. I can't really understand how a genius like Curtis Mayfield could lose his ability to make brilliant music. But I accept it. A lot of great music was an accident. A lot of great art, period. Sometimes you get lucky. Most of the time, you don't. Somebody here posts "Should I buy this?" Somebody else replies with an enthusiastic "YES!". But the recommend-er fails to mention that they would buy ANYTHING with that musician's name on it. I'm not suggesting a new exotica list RULE. I'm just noticing how often this occurs here, someone who thinks they're crazy because they don't like something everyone else seems to like. To those people who think they're crazy, I just want to say "you're not". (Maybe you ARE but this is not a manifestation of it.) I haven't even heard the Bacharach soundtrack in question here but if someone says it's pedestrian, I believe them. The guy had to have a few losers. Sometimes I think that one of the communication barriers here on the list in not just between those who like everything and those who don't but it's between those who buy this stuff on LP and those who buy the CD reissues and compilations. I have some Arthur Lyman LP's that I don't really like that much but they were $5 and I just like them as objects. And maybe there's one cool cut for a tape. But if someone asked "should I buy this on CD?", I'd scream "don't bother!" I have different standards for LP's and CD's. I don't think I'm the only one. There are thousands of records that if someone asked "should I pick that up if I see it in a pile of records somewhere", I'd say sure go ahead. There's something cool about it. But if they asked "should I buy the CD?", that's a whole different question. Anyway, gotta get back to this Mancini tape I'm making myself. I think I can get all the good cuts from 20+ records onto two tapes... Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Baxter soundtracks Date: 13 May 1998 19:28:56 -0400 At 01:16 PM 13/05/98 EDT, Pearmania wrote: > >I am a fan of Les Baxter's exotic albums. I noticed that the Citadel label >has released two Baxter soundtracks on CD: Can anyone on the list offer recommendations to buy these? I can't comment on these particular soundtracks. I can tell you though that liking Baxter's exotica albums does not in any way guarantee liking his soundtracks or for that matter, any number of records he made. I have his soundtrack LP of "Goliath and the Barbarians" and while I love the picture on the cover, the record is just more fake classical soundtrack stuff. And he's got big band records and even some of his exotica records are only really "exotica LIGHT". On the other hand, if like some here, you want anything with his name on it, then none of these considerations really matter. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: buMp Subject: Re: (exotica) Double LPs: sides 1/4 &2/3 Date: 13 May 1998 20:04:02 -0500 >On some older Double-LPs you find on the first record the sides 1 and 4 >and on the second 2 and 3. Does anyone know why? auto record changers...and i just found a very cool Technics SL-B5 turntable , made in the 70's , that has a removable spindle so i can either just play one record or put the tall stackable spindle on and play 6 LP's and it also came with a spindle for big holed 7"'s to stack 45's as well...i am digging listening to vinyl for 2 hours straight. life is good... the only damage seems to be surface scratches if the records are slightly warped i can live with that... BuMp Defective Records pje@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu http://www.welch.jhu.edu/~geh/defective.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) After The Fox/The Exotic Moods Of Les Baxter Date: 13 May 1998 17:36:35 -0700 At 07:28 PM 5/13/98 -0400, you wrote: > >At 06:57 PM 13/05/98 +0100, Kenny Brockelstein wrote: > >>I finally got to hear the After The Fox OST today and...what a letdown it >>is! :Didthis album really meet the high expectations of other Bacharach >fanatics on>this list? Cos I wonder if I'm the only who doesn't like it and >maybe you >>all think it's a masterpiece... > >With all due respect to those whose taste is different - and I'd say more >"forgiving" - than mine, some people like EVERYTHING as long as it's made >by a musician they generally enjoy. This is not what I meant to say at all. By enjoying an artist, but noting it's not his or her best work, does not imply a "blanket approval" of all the artist's work. >There was already one response to this post which essentially said "yeah >it's not great but if you love Bacharach you should get it anyway". Again, by noting that this is not the artist's best work does not imply that the work in question is not "great", but simply not the greatest accomplishment by the artist. For those keeping track, what I actually said was: "I wouldn't call it a masterpiece, but I certainly enjoyed it".... " So, while not his best work, soundtrack or otherwise, I would advise Bacharach fans to pick it up!" dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SLarry3595 Subject: Re: (exotica) After The Fox/The Exotic Moods Of Les Baxter Date: 13 May 1998 20:59:06 EDT In a message dated 5/13/98 1:08:12 PM you wrote: > I finally got to hear the After The Fox OST today and...what a letdown it > is! :( :( :( Burt Bacharach is my all time favourite songwriter but this > really must be his worst recording ever....It was an awful surprise to > hear...avoid it like the plague, if you ask me The movie is also incredibly bad. I too love Bacharach's music (Casino Royale is a must have) and I enjoy Peter Sellers as well but this movie and it's soundtrack both stink! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SLarry3595 Subject: Re: (exotica) Baxter soundtracks Date: 13 May 1998 21:08:58 EDT In a message dated 5/13/98 2:03 you wrote: > If Black Sunday is really Black Sabbath, the 60's horror flick - I seem > to recall that one having a fairly enjoyable score. The soundtrack in question is the Italian horror movie starring Barbara Steele, which has a large cult following. The original score was written by an Italian and recorded in Italy. When Roger Corman's AIP company imported the film they hired Baxter to wrote a new score. (Some have said they prefer the original score.) Most videos of this film feature the non-Baxter score. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip Subject: Re: (exotica) After The Fox/The Exotic Moods Of Les Baxter Date: 13 May 1998 21:48:50 EDT I'm not a Bacharach fanatic at all, but I do enjoy mid sixties MOVIE SOUNDTRACKS of this type in a big, big way and this score gives me everything I want and more. Interesting this came up as i just mailed a sealed original across the country to a guy that was looking all over for it and the new CD just would not do. I like that in a collector. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: RE: (exotica) Double LPs: sides 1/4 &2/3 Date: 13 May 1998 18:08:14 +0000 At 09:25 PM 5/13/98 +0100, Hugh wrote: >I've only ever seen double 12" albums - did they >ever issue double 10" albums in the 50's? Curious. Never seen them. Now, 45's were often issued that way, but don't recall seeing the 10 inchers in that format. Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk) Subject: RE: (exotica) Double LPs: sides 1/4 &2/3 Date: 13 May 1998 18:11:21 -1000 >At 09:25 PM 5/13/98 +0100, Hugh wrote: >>I've only ever seen double 12" albums - did they >>ever issue double 10" albums in the 50's? I'll have to double check, or maybe someone knows for sure... I thought I may have read that Frank Sinatra's "Songs for Young Lovers" and "Swing Easy" was issued as a double 10" in the early 50s on Capitol Records... Unsure, Steve *** *** *** Steve Funk (sfunk@pop.adn.com) Anchorage, AK USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Early Esquivel movie Date: 14 May 1998 00:59:57 PDT Vic Rugh on the list found another page on the early Esquivel movie http://azteca-films.com/pelicula/LaLoll_A.htm It's the same only different, this one's got a jpeg with Juan and a girl. -- Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Formats & Doubles Date: 14 May 1998 11:19:50 +0000 The reason, why there might not be any Double 10" is possibly because it doesn't make so much sense. You go on a 10" if you want to publish something that has less music than a regular LP. If you want to release more than a 10" you'd probably go on 12" and not on Double 10". Of course that doesn't mean that there couldn't be any artist who did it as a concept gag, so the double 10", if one day somebody will find it, will most likely be a record from the 80s. But speaking of formats: I own 5 different sizes of Vinyl and I'm not talking of "shape"-records. In addition to the usual 7", 10" and 12" I have a tiny little single slightly bigger than a CD by a British punk group called "Squeeze". And then there is a record from Japan that is about 8 & a half inch. I don't know whose music is on it, though, because the only Latin letters on it say "Kurichan Records" and that's probably the label. But these two are the only different sized records I've ever seen. I heard there are records bigger than 12". Can anybody confirm that? MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Tretchikoff Styling... Date: 14 May 1998 03:42:43 -0600 At 13:08 13/05/98 PDT, you wrote: > >Accidentally, I swear, I happened to flip past the terrible Joe Pesci >film _Jimmy Hollywood_ the other night, and what was hanging on his >apartment wall...? Yup, the one from the first Sound Gallery CD, I >think. I guess at least the set designer had taste.... Actually, that picture turns up in many a British 60s flick. I have seen it so many times now, I've lost count. And yes, it still turns up in flicks today. Weird or what? Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Ayi-yi-yi Date: 14 May 1998 03:44:41 -0600 > When Beach Boy Mike Love suggested the collaboration, >Hernandez jumped at the chance. ``It made the album all that >much better for us. It was the first time a group like that >asked us to record with them,'' he said. Figures it would be Mike Love's idea. And apparently it was him that refused to work with Sean O'Hagen of the High Llamas as producer of the next Beach Boys LP. You've gotta "love" this guy. NOT. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Formats & Speed Date: 14 May 1998 03:04:56 PDT What is the format most common for classical works on 78 rpm? 14"? I have a swedish 78 that is maybe 8". It contains orient-influenced dance music from the 30s. I like that format. Doesnt see it that often. Does anybody ever see LPs in 16 rpm? my father has a nice one from, i believe, the early 60s called Three Tenors with a cover by Andy Warhol, and I think its the only one I've seen, which is strange because several of my vintage recordplayers can take that speed. So it had to be a format that lasted a while.. --- Magnus ´¯`·..·´¯`·..·´¯`·..·´¯`·..·´¯`·..·´¯`·..·´ .·´¯`·..·´¯`·..·´¯`·..·´¯`·..·´¯`·..·´ .·´¯`·..·´¯`·..·´¯`·..·´ .·´¯`·..·´ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Formats and Speed Date: 14 May 1998 03:51:37 PDT called Three Tenors with a cover by Andy Warhol Ha ha ha! A mistake. "trombones by three" is the correct name. M ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: (exotica) Tretchikoff Styling... Date: 14 May 1998 13:12:14 +0100 > Accidentally, I swear, I happened to flip past the terrible Joe Pesci > film _Jimmy Hollywood_ the other night, and what was hanging on his > apartment wall...? Yup, the one from the first Sound Gallery CD, I > think. I guess at least the set designer had taste.... > Dozens of people will be thrilled to know that you can also see it in the background in the models' flat in "Carry On Loving", in its native context and era. I wasn't watching that film accidentally. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: Re: (exotica) Formats & Speed Date: 14 May 1998 08:56:25 -0500 I have a couple 5"s, but there is no way you play them w/out rejecting. I also have one of those gigantic records they used to use for radio programs. I think those gigantic records play from the inner groove outwards, I could be wrong. Jeff _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Formats & Doubles Date: 14 May 1998 06:16:05 +0000 At 11:19 AM 5/14/98 +0000, Moritz wrote: >I heard there are records bigger than 12". Can anybody confirm that? Yes. 16". These are transcription discs, generally used for broadcast stations. They either feature programs or music libraries with "locked" cuts (the grooves would self-intersect at the end of each cut). Speed was 33 1/3, but microgrooves were not used, so time per side was usually 15 minutes. You need a turntable with the arm spaced appropriately to play them. Judging from the discs I have seen, I would say they were produced from the late 20s to the early 60s when reel to reel tape and higher quality microgroove Lps replaced them for broadcast utility. I have one radio series from the 50s (The Tennessee Ernie Show), a shoe company commercial on an early blue Columbia one-sided disc and a music library disc: I am always looking for more. Much of the music recorded for broadcast were not available commercially, although some of it has seen the light of day (Kenton, Nat King Cole). They are tough to find because they were exclusive to radio stations and most abandoned them years ago to be recycled or worse (the dump). /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Formats & Speed Date: 14 May 1998 06:30:14 +0000 At 03:04 AM 5/14/98 PDT, Magnus wrote: >Does anybody ever see LPs in 16 rpm? I found one that proclaimed "More than hour of music." Of course, music at 16rpm is pretty low-fidelity. I decided to get rid of that record because I don't have a 16 rpm turntable anymore! Drats. >So it had to be a >format that lasted a while.. Music at 16rpm is unusual. Generally it was used for talking records because the low frequency response was acceptable for the small bandwidth of human speech. When I was a kid I got a 7 inch of Robert Louis Stevenson's "A Children's Garden of Verse." When I put it on our Grundig, it just played forever! Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "keir keightley" Subject: (exotica) format-speed 16 RPM Date: 14 May 1998 07:52:34 PDT I have a great 16 RPM 12" from Vox, _'Round the World, 'Round the Clock_ (1957)...well, the cover and liner notes are great, 'cause I've never actually heard it properly ... The concept of the cross-promo with Pan American is that just as jet flight will shorten the trip around the world, so too will the rise of 16 RPM as the new speed standard allow hours of music from around the world to be contained on a single LP... you get the picture - and the cover illustration is a kind of Dali meets Magritte, with the the world and a clock connected by a twisted parabola, with clouds floating against a black outer space... From BossaNovaVille, Keir ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Double LPs: sides 1/4 &2/3 Date: 14 May 1998 09:39:32 +0100 I had a friend who, when he got hold of his parents 1969 Grundig turntable (which had a stacking autochanger), went out and bought a roll of felt. He cut out 7" circles of felt and glued these to the b-sides of all his 7" singles using mastick (very powerful glue) so as to protect them as they fell on each other. Clearly this was a perfect solution because none of his records were ever damaged. Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) Galt McDermot Date: 14 May 1998 10:48:26 +0100 Does anybody know which Galt McDermot soundtrack featured the track 'Ripped Open by Metal Explosions'? And can anyone recommend other McDermot soundtracks? (Other than Hair). I recently found 'Martines Movie - Woman is Sweeter' by Galt - it is a superb soundtrack (1972 ish) and features 'space' sampled by Bustah Rhymes for WooHah. Thanks Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Formats & Speed Date: 14 May 1998 11:37:51 +0100 What about records that play from the inside out, i.e., the groove is cut from the middle and the needle will eventually fall off the edge of the record? Or double grooved records (I only have one - Pop Musik by M) - Two grooves lie directly next to each other and cover one side. If you pick up the needle and put it down again it may fall into either groove and play either track. I heard of a horse-racing record with 6 grooves lying alongside each other. Each groove contains commentary for a horse race but each race ends with a different winner. Punters each bet on a horse 1,2,3,4,5 or 6 and then put the needle down to listen to the race - Each horse has a 1in6 chance of winning (unless, like my records, there are bits of crap stuck in the grooves which would heavily favour certain outcomes). I also have a 41/2" Flinstones 78rpm record somewhere. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: RE: (exotica) Formats & Doubles Date: 14 May 1998 07:58:07 -0400 There were V-discs I have seen that were too big to fit on any turntable I have ever owned. I am guessing that they were 14". > But these two are the only different sized records I've ever seen. I > heard there are records bigger than 12". Can anybody confirm that? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Formats & Speed Date: 14 May 1998 15:42:11 +0100 What about records that play from the inside out, i.e., the groove is cut from the middle and the needle will eventually fall off the edge of the record? Or double grooved records (I only have one - Pop Musik by M) - Two grooves lie directly next to each other and cover one side. If you pick up the needle and put it down again it may fall into either groove and play either track. I heard of a horse-racing record with 6 grooves lying alongside each other. Each groove contains commentary for a horse race but each race ends with a different winner. Punters each bet on a horse 1,2,3,4,5 or 6 and then put the needle down to listen to the race - Each horse has a 1in6 chance of winning (unless, like my records, there are bits of crap stuck in the grooves which would heavily favour certain outcomes). I also have a 41/2" Flinstones 78rpm record somewhere. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Double LPs: sides 1/4 &2/3 Date: 14 May 1998 15:41:51 +0100 I had a friend who, when he got hold of his parents 1969 Grundig turntable (which had a stacking autochanger), went out and bought a roll of felt. He cut out 7" circles of felt and glued these to the b-sides of all his 7" singles using mastick (very powerful glue) so as to protect them as they fell on each other. Clearly this was a perfect solution because none of his records were ever damaged. Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: RE: (exotica) Formats & Speed Date: 14 May 1998 11:17:31 -0400 > I also have a 41/2" Flinstones 78rpm record somewhere. There is a record like this I have on my site: http://www.mindspring.com/~hagar/g.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim @ World Wide Wax" Subject: Re: (exotica) Formats & Speed Date: 14 May 1998 07:38:46 +0000 > I heard of a horse-racing record with 6 grooves lying alongside each > other. Each groove contains commentary for a horse race but each > race ends with a different winner. Punters each bet on a horse > 1,2,3,4,5 or 6 and then put the needle down to listen to the race - > Each horse has a 1in6 chance of winning (unless, like my records, > there are bits of crap stuck in the grooves which would heavily > favour certain outcomes). I have a Roulette LP that was produced by various casinos in Vegas in 1974. One side has instructions and a history of roulette, the other has 38 (!) tracks (00, 0, and 1 to 36). With so many tracks, the needle crosses the record in about 10 seconds. Fun to play with! It is in my current exotica auction: http://www.worldwidewax.com/xx2/ Tim Barron World Wide Wax - Your source for classic vinyl Over 4,000 lps for sale & 600 scanned covers at: http://www.worldwidewax.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Formats & Speed Date: 14 May 1998 17:47:38 +0000 The grandpa of a former girlfriend had a unique cassette system, I think it was by Telefunken (Germany): It was cassettes the size of two ordinary 8-track-cassettes and had red plastic tape, but not a magnetic tape: The tape had grooves and was played with a needle. On the tape were, I think, 8 parallel tracks, that you could switch, just like the 8-track cassettes. I thinkm they were also endless tapes. Neither ever seen another one nor one of these tapes. I wish I knew at least how the system was called. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: (exotica) Cat fights on record Date: 14 May 1998 11:14:25 -0500 (CDT) No, this is not about dueling divas. During a recent roadtrip, picked up "Cook's Tour of Stereo, Around the World in Authentic 3-Dimensional Sound," (Cook Laboratories, 2004sd, no date). I'd guess this 12-inch was recorded in the 50s, and liner notes indicate it's one of three Cook's Labs hi-fi/stereo test records. Another is "Cook's Tour of Hi Fidelity," blurbed as a "triple threat entertainment treat" incorporating an "unabashed expose of the folklore of hi-fi." That description flattens me with record lust! "Cook's Tour" mixes music with gimmicky voiceovers and travel-oriented sound effects: Ocean liner horns blast as "We head to Trinidad..." to hear the Mighty Sparrow sing a calypso recorded live. Other ports of call: Spain to hearCarlos Montoya and friends doing flamenco; Martinique biguine "Ce-on meme" by Francisco et son groupe Mi-yo; Big Latin Band, "Frenesi" by Willie Rodriguez; Giant Mexican Marimba by an unnamed group doing a sprightly "Cielito Lindo"; Theater organ from Detroit; Dixieland Jazz from New Orleans, etc., etc. But the record's final band gets bizarre, BIZARRE, when the tour wraps up with a visit to Salem, Mass., associated with witches and black cats. The producer Emory Cook gives us three unendurable minutes of cats fighting, credited to The South Salem Prowlers: howls, yowls, caterwauling, spitting, screams, moans, grrs, hisses, yelps, and cries, recorded with such realism that my normally comatose cats immediately hunkered down in battle stance. I suppose this, um, happy interlude is intended to push your stereo's treble/bass limits, and it does. So what was the deal with Emory Cook/Cook Labs of 101 Second Street, Stamford, Conn.? Did not find a reference on the Space Age Pop Standards website (http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/index.htm)--but then, "Cook's Tour" just ain't yer standard stereo test record. Can any of you Exoticats enlighten me? Thanks in advance for any info. MimiM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmperl@juno.com (Jonathan M Perl) Subject: re: (exotica) Les Baxter Date: 14 May 1998 09:43:43 -0400 > >So the Exotic Moods cover everything up to 1960 - are there any Baxter >compilations which continue with what he did in the sixties? > >Kenny Brockelstein The only other Les Baxter on CD which I consider essential is 'Que Mango' on Scamp. It is a fantastic e/l -rock hybrid masterpiece from 1970 which knocks me out every time. Jonny _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Sando Subject: Re: (exotica) Ayi-yi-yi Date: 14 May 1998 09:14:45 -0700 >Figures it would be Mike Love's idea. And apparently it was him that refused >to work with Sean O'Hagen of the High Llamas as producer of the next Beach >Boys LP. You've gotta "love" this guy. NOT. As someone who's more familiar with Mariachi music rather than Beach Boys music, I can add Mariachi del Sol is extremely enthusiastic and medicore. They generally play a very boring EZ ranchera sound but on their LP they have an extended quasi-arty mariachi suite that must have appealed to the Beach Boys. MisterLUCKY, published by Coconut Grove Media Visit MisterLUCKY on the web: http://www.mrlucky.com PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Early Esquivel movie Date: 14 May 1998 12:55:05 -0400 At 12:59 AM -0700 5/14/98, Magnus Sandberg wrote: >Vic Rugh on the list found another page on the early Esquivel movie > >http://azteca-films.com/pelicula/LaLoll_A.htm >It's the same only different, this one's got a jpeg with Juan and a >girl. That shot is from one of the lobby cards for the film. There's another one that shows Esquivel conducting the band. He played a dual role in the film : band leader for each of the rival university ensembles! A track from the film is on the Mexican LP "Las Tandas de Garcia Esquivel" br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: (exotica) Edmundo Ros Date: 14 May 1998 18:16:05 +0100 Hi Folks, I just discovered an Edmundo Ros site, with partial discography, at: http://users.skynet.be/sky70040/eroshp.htm Perhaps this has been noted on the list before; I don't remember if it was, though. However, I simply had to post the following from the site... The Edmundo Ros Club In 1951 Edmundo Ros bought a club in Regent Street, the Coconut Grove, which was very popular during the war. The address, 100 Regent Street was not quite right because the in-clubs at that time were in Mayfair. Ros changed names, and when it was finally Edmundo Ros' Dinner and Supper Club, the stream of the right people and the Rolls-Royces turned there. Along came the BBC and the club became world famous. Standards at the club were kept extremely high. Edmundo's notebook included all the names of the British Royal Family, the nobility, the counts, the pears and dukes. These people and those mentioned in "Who's Who" could get membership in to the club. The guests had also to be properly dressed. The Ladies coming from the tea party in Buckingham Palace were not allowed to wear their broad hats. When women began to wear trousers like men, Ros decided not to accept them. "Once a very well-known madame, the wife of Sir Cecil Hardwick, tried to enter the club dressed in pants. My reception had their orders, and she went to another night club very cross and hurt. She told everybody what an idiot Edmundo Ros was! There was a newspaper reporter listening and I got the biggest publicity you can think of:: a photo of her and the words: "Edmundo did not allow in.....marvellous! " King Hussein of Jordan, a Latin music aficionado, with his party was denied entrance because one of his party, film star Peter O'Toole, was not properly dressed and did not accept the tie offered to him." Regular royal guests during the Club Era were Princess Margaret, Monaco's Prince Rainier and Prince Bertil of Sweden. The club had 24 musicians and 53 employees, one of which had polishing the silver as his sole job. Ros says that all those details--you could not smoke the pipe before twelve o'clock--made the difference, and it was terribly important in England. The business was excellent until 1965 when gambling became legal in England. Ros noticed the difference immediately in the takings and sold the club. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: slackmates@earthlink.net (Rod) Subject: (exotica) Re: Wtd: BILLY MURE Supersonic 1&2 Date: 14 May 1998 12:59:10 -0500 Paul, I received the two Billy Mure LP's today. It's really disappointing to get great LP's in the mail that you know left the seller in great shape, but arrive damage due to the seller's packaging. Both albums are bent on one corner from the thin cardboard package. Also, the "Supersonic II" lp came out of the top of the cover so now it's split. These lp's were probably mint when they left you, but now they're not. I'm still keeping them 'cause it took so long to find them. I think you should probably ship all your lp's with the vinyl outside the cover so the covers like most people do that I've bought from so they don't split. And I've learned my lesson to ask people to double their boxes because the cardboard is just too thin to take the abuse of shipping. What a drag..... Rod Abernethy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: slackmates@earthlink.net (Rod) Subject: (exotica) Shipping damage and packaging Date: 14 May 1998 12:58:57 -0500 Surely, I can't be the only collector whose had problems this year with damage to lp covers due to bad packaging. I've had three packages in the past month arrive with a dented in corners which always makes it's way to the cover inside and guess what? Mint goes downs to VG or less. Has anyone found a solution for the thin cardboard standard single package? What's the best way of packaging and shipping? Also, everyone please remember to ship lp's outside the covers. I got one today that wasn't and sure enough, it split the cover big time. Thanks, Rod # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: Re[2]: (exotica) Formats & Speed Date: 14 May 1998 18:37:51 UT The only goofy record layout I have is the 100th release from ReR records. It's a 7" with 50 locked tracks on each side. Most are stupid noise, but some are very funny and of course, conceptually it's incredible. PeterR # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (exotica) Shipping damage and packaging Date: 14 May 1998 12:45:10 -0600 On Thu, May 14, 1998 at 12:58:57PM -0500, Rod wrote: > Surely, I can't be the only collector whose had problems this year with > damage to lp covers due to bad packaging. I've had three packages in the > past month arrive with a dented in corners which always makes it's way to > the cover inside and guess what? Mint goes downs to VG or less. Has > anyone found a solution for the thin cardboard standard single package? > What's the best way of packaging and shipping? I like the big cardboard boxes that my laserdiscs from Sight & Sound (used to) come in. They were pretty standard LP-sized boxes except that the part that folded around the outside had about 1.5" of extra cardboard on each side, which would absorb any corner damage in shipping. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MUV96TBD@Student2.lu.se (Kenny Brockelstein) Subject: Re: (exotica) Ayi-yi-yi Date: 14 May 1998 22:17:07 +0100 >Figures it would be Mike Love's idea. And apparently it was him that refused >to work with Sean O'Hagen of the High Llamas as producer of the next Beach >Boys LP. You've gotta "love" this guy. NOT. Yes, it's more than likely Mike. From what I've heard from Sean O'Hagan, Mike Love didn't so much openly refuse as just being terribly hostile towards him, basically meaning "Get the fuck out of here, I won't be able to control the group otherwise". Sean said something about how he wouldn't like to be the one famous for killing the Beach Boys for good, so he chose (or was rather forced) to abandon the project directly. Besides, he met Brian Wilson, and Brian - apparently still part-time goofball - actually didn't know who Sean was, despite the fact they had been introduced to eachother earlier the same day! Some Mike Love facts: He blocked the release of Smile, he blocked the releases of Brian's 70's stuff (they are actually much better than the officially released records!), he was behind blocking the 1988 re-release of Pet Sounds and the Smile Sessions album (fearing that Brian would get too much attention along with the release of his amazing soloalbum that year), he was solely responsible for the three-year delay of the release of the Pet Sounds Box Set - which is why it's so hypocritical of him to praise the very same album in the promo film for the Box Set. Come on, admit publicly you hate it, don't be such a chicken and backstab Brian privately where noone can hear you! I wonder, in the world of true Exotica, are there any examples of Mike Love-ish controlfreaks who've tried to sabotage the works of more talented musicians and artists?? Any Mephistofeles characters who have messed up the works of Baxter, Denny, et al?? Kenny Brockelstein # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MUV96TBD@Student2.lu.se (Kenny Brockelstein) Subject: Re: (exotica) After The Fox/The Exotic Moods Of Les Baxter Date: 14 May 1998 22:17:15 +0100 What made me so disappointed with ATF was that it sounds so...it's like, with Bacharach's best stuff, soundtrack or not, you can literally hear he's spent an extraordinary amount of time on the compositions, the arrangements and the productions. With ATF, though, it all sounds like he wrote, arranged and produced everything in one week or something. I think 'sloppy' is the word. I think Bacharach can make great soundtracks when he gets everything right - Lost Horizon in particular which is my favourite Bacharach record - he's fantastic, but listening to ATF just sounded as throwaway as the word can mean. >in not just between those who like everything and those who don't but it's >between those who buy this stuff on LP and those who buy the CD reissues >and compilations. I'm a CD-man myself. It's not really choice, rather it's the result of having basically no thrift/2nd hand stores where I live so I'm kinda forced to buy the CD-reissues whether I like it or not...which is why I usually need to read 100000+ recommendations on this list to be totally sure it's something I really should spend the little money I have on. Kenny Brockelstein # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Larry House Subject: (exotica) LPs, 1/4 & 2/3 Date: 14 May 1998 18:11:23 -0400 Ah, memories...As a youngster, I remember my mother putting a BIG stack of records, I mean 3" worth, on the automatic spindle all at once. As they finished playing and successive records dropped down on the turntable, eventually the accumulated weight would result in the topmost records not gripping the ones below and actually SLIDING, slowing down, not spinning at 33 & 1/3 and generating weird variable slow motion sound effects. I don't know if that's exotic but it's certainly unusual - maybe similar experiences inspired future dj's to develop their "scratching" techniques. Also, I believe that albums of 78's were issued in this alternating format (1/6, 2/5, 3/4 for a three record set) as well as successively sequenced (1/2, 3/4, 5/6) to accomodate differing 78 players that either required one to stack and then flip, or came equipped with an automatic jukebox-like feeder that flipped each record over in succession. So record labels had to issue these album sets in both formats. I also once purchased a sealed copy of the Allman Brothers "At Fillmore East" that contained two copies of sides 1 and 4. Does anyone out there have one with two copies of sides 2 and 3? Larry House. "The great thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "telstar" Subject: Re: (exotica) Formats & Doubles Date: 14 May 1998 18:22:21 -0400 Moritz typed: > Of course that doesn't mean that there couldn't be any artist who did it as > a concept gag, so the double 10", if one day somebody will find it, will > most likely be a record from the 80s. In 1979 there was a double 10" American release of Joe Jackson's "Look Sharp" (A & M Records SP-3666). Other 10" doubles include a box set by the Virgin Prunes ("Heresie" INV. 0500 ) & a compilation of M-Squared label acts called "Entrave et Etouffement - from Australia" (INV 0400). Both sets were released on L'Invitation au Suicide label in France. Allan. "You don't need to call it music, if the term shocks you." John Cage # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "telstar" Subject: Re: Re[2]: (exotica) Formats & Speed Date: 14 May 1998 18:06:57 -0400 Peter wrote: > The only goofy record layout I have is the 100th release from ReR records. It's > a 7" with 50 locked tracks on each side. Most are stupid noise, but some are > very funny and of course, conceptually it's incredible. Actually, the release ("RRR-100") is on the American noise label RRRecords (ReR is the British label run by former Henry Cow drummer Chris Cutler). Another lock-groove disc is Non's "Pagan Muzak" which consists on a 7" disc in a lp sleeve, with the added bonus of an extra spindle hole so the record can be played off-centre! Allan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Russo" Subject: Re: (exotica) Galt McDermot Date: 14 May 1998 15:38:24 -0700 From Charles: >Does anybody know which Galt McDermot soundtrack featured the track 'Ripped >Open by Metal Explosions'? And can anyone recommend other McDermot >soundtracks? (Other than Hair) Don't know about that track title, but MacDermot also did the score for COTTON COMES TO HARLEM. Pretty hokey funky stuff. Not worth dropping a bundle to own. C. "Ratso" Russo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Renwick Subject: (exotica) Cook Laboratories Date: 14 May 1998 19:27:24 -0400 Mimi asked about Cook Laboratories of Stamford, Connecticut. Emory Cook produced some of the first LPs with very wide frequency response in the early fifties. Most of his catalog was classical music. Hence, his labe= l doesn't show up on the Spaceage Pop Standards Page. There were a few theatre organ recordings of Reginald Foorte at the Detroit Fox theatre an= d the Richmond Mosque. He also developed a system for recording stereo on vinyl, whereby there were two separate grooves, about 2 inches apart: one for each channel. = You had to have a special tone arm with 2 phono cartridges in order to pl= ay these records. If you run across a Cook Labs catalog of this early perio= d, you'll notice that the play list for a given release is different for the= stereo and mono versions, because the stereo version played half as long = as the mono. I recently picked up "Cooks Tour Of High Fidelity," and it definitely is = a hoot! --Mark Jacksonville, Florida tibia@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/tibia # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Benton Reed Subject: Re: (exotica) Baxter soundtracks Date: 14 May 1998 22:45:15 -0400 SLarry3595 wrote: > In a message dated 5/13/98 2:03 you wrote: > > .... When Roger Corman's AIP company imported A minor correction--Corman worked for AIP, he didn't own or run the place. That honor went to Samuel Z. Arkoff. BTW, does anyone know of a website devoted to American International Pictures? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) A very sad message Date: 15 May 1998 02:59:19 PDT Frank Sinatra is dead LOS ANGELES (CNN) -- Frank Sinatra, the dashing teen idol who matured into the premier romantic balladeer of American popular music and the "Chairman of the Board" to his millions of fans, died Thursday night of a heart attack. He was 82. Sinatra was pronounced dead at 10:50 p.m. in the emergency room of Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, said his publicist, Susan Reynolds. Sinatra's family, including his wife, was with him when he died. Sinatra was a master craftsman and ranked as one of the most influential singers in this country's history. In more than 200 albums, his music led the evolution of Big Band to vocal American music. Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Shipping damage and packaging Date: 15 May 1998 03:30:16 PDT >> Surely, I can't be the only collector whose had problems this year with >> damage to lp covers due to bad packaging. No, you are not... 1 time out of 3 the records arrive to me in the same condition as they was sent. Usually it is one or two corners that is a little disfigured, not that bad, but unnecessary. Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "keir keightley" Subject: (exotica) Frankie Flies - Millenium Comes Early Date: 15 May 1998 05:02:48 PDT David Hadju, I think, wrote "Forget the calendar. The day Frank Sinatra dies, the 20th century is over". In any case, may I suggest Frank's 1958 recording of Matt Dennis's "Angel Eyes" as an appropriate coda, since it mentions the devil (someone Frank is probably getting to know even better at this very moment), contains the line "burning unbearably bright" (that describes Sinatra's talent, I'd say), and it ends with "'scuse me while I...disappear". Goodbye baby and Amen. From Swingin'LoversLand, Keir ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) This American Life: Sinatra Date: 15 May 1998 10:09:57 -0500 If you've got RealAudio, head over to this URL and listen to one fine tribute: "Sinatra" A rebroadcast of one of our most popular shows. Stories about Frank Sinatra, his greatness, his awfulness, and why is it that he may turn out to be the most important singer of the 20th century. Writer Gay Talese reads his 1966 classic piece of reporting "Frank Sinatra has a cold." Sarah Vowell begs American TV producers NOT to play "My Way" as the background to Frank's obit. Novelist Michael Ventura reads from his novel "The Death of Frank Sinatra." Camden Joy describes a greasy spoon full of Pakistani cabdrivers nearly choking to death while watching Frank acting in "The Manchurean Candidate." Musicologist Will Friedwald explains what makes Sinatra so different and special. Disturbing recordings of Frank in 1962, and more. First broadcast 2/21/97. April 18, 1998. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MUV96TBD@Student2.lu.se (Kenny Brockelstein) Subject: (exotica) Exotica-l archive suggestion Date: 15 May 1998 18:00:46 +0100 I have a suggestion to make to whoever is responsible for the website with all the archived messages from Exotica - is it possible to add a search engine to the site?? I've seen that on other archived lists' webpages atleast. It'd really make things more easy and accessible and instead of having to go through *every* message (which is the current situation) if I want to find some discussions about, say, Ennio Morricone or P5, a quick search using one of those engines would give me exactly what I'm looking for. Kenny Brockelstein # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ghostown@ix.netcom.com Subject: (exotica) cleaning CDs (FWD) Date: 15 May 1998 11:56:40 -0400 sent by a correspondent: * * * * I am not kidding about this. Clean your CD's with cheap vodka and an old cotton T-shirt. Cheap vodka is ethel alcohol and distilled water. It cleans CDs wonderfully. Wipe radially (like LPs) Then suck the shirt. Jeff.Johnson@goodnews.net WVXU/Cincinnati/X-Star Radio Network # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "VIC RUGH" Subject: (exotica) Sizes and speeds Date: 15 May 1998 9:06:58 CDT The topic has been pretty well covered now, I guess. (Kinda interesting the guesses on the reasoning for some of the sizes/speeds. We are like archeologists, interpreting the use and importance of tools of which we find little pieces.) Anyway, here's another two cents worth. This is the way I've experienced it, from largest to smallest: 16 inch. Broadcast transcriptions. "ET's" for electric transcriptions. Some DID spiral out from center; some did not. Some did use "locked groove, " where there was no tracking from cut to cut. Many were 33 1/3 rpm, but 78 was also widely used. Groove width was "standard" as in the old 78's (which also varied alot) until around late 40's when microgroove at 33 1/3 started to sneak in. Many "syndicated" (unsponsored) or "public service" radio programs came that way. (Don't have any experience with anything between 16 and 12 inch) 12 inch. The labels in the 20's and 30's used this size for classical, I know. And late 30's thru the 40's many albums (four to eight sides) were set on 12 inch. Especially classical and spoken word artists. These were all 78 rpm, of course. The 12-inch microgroove 33-1/3 was 50's thru present day. 10 inch. This size is about where the flat disk recording started, when Thomas Alva's cylinder was abandoned. (Most of those early thick, single-sided recordings measured something a little greater than 12 inches.) Many/most popular singles in the 78 world were this size. These stayed the norm until somewhere in the first half of the 50's the industry (mostly RCA Victor) pushed the microgroove 7-inch 45 rpm on the market. It is interesting that the "LP" --(is that still copyright Columbia records/Sony?) was initially most popularly accepted as a 10-inch item. Don't know when the 10-inch faded. (No, I do not recall ever seeing a double-disk 10-inch issue.) (I have only seen disks between 7 and 10 inches as special product, nothing commercial, so I have no knowledge of how they were used in the public market.) 7 inch. There was a 7-inch 78 used for children's recordings. Otherwise, as noted above, that dimension introed in the 50's. Microgroove 45 rpm. Could easily hold seven or eight minutes a side. The "EP" or Extended Play was an "album" which is to say, more than two cuts on a disk. (Or, as in some jazz or classical releases, two cuts, but really LONG cuts!) An EP was not necessarily more than one disk, of course, but I have seen some that had THREE disks, with the three sleeves constructed as three pages of a book (versus three-way gate). There is another 7-inch format: the 33-1/3, which was introduced in the early 60's. While the 45 rpm had a large center hole the 33-1/3 reverted to the small hole of the LP and 78. Commercially it never quite caught. It had the advantage of being able to carry just that much more time per side-- easily three or four cuts per side. I recall hearing that record producers expected people to like the fact that, on SOME SELECT RECORD CHANGERS (the old stack-em-on-a-spindle-and-let'em-go-things) you could mix these little 7-inchers with your 10- and 12-inchers! Yes, there were machines that allowed folks to mix 10- and 12-inch disks. Most 7-inch 33-1/3 I've seen were Capitol label. There were others, weren't there? Except for kids' records (78-rpm on any color plastic) anything smaller than 7-inch were, in my experience, "toys." They were limited-distribution prizes or hand-outs in cereal boxes and fast-food restaurants, for example. A word about the 16 RPMs... I don't recall any size but 12-inch disks at this speed. I don't think I ever saw an attempt to push commercial ("popular") music in this format. Through the 60's and 70's there were a lot of "books on disk" and other educational materials available this way. Most "household" variety machines had this selection (as well and 33-1/3, 45, and 78). Some thots about record changers: In the 60's(?) most record companies started producing their LPs with the rim raised, or thicker than the rest of the disk. The idea was that, on a changer, the disk would drop onto another disk and make contact only at the out (raised) rim and at the label, sparing the grooves of any contact, especially while the dropping disk was NOT rotating and the one on the turntable was. I think there was a name given to that feature, as a selling tool (such as "Now with protecto-rim" or something). And one post mentioned the top disks beginning to slip and slow down. In many PROMO or DEEJAY versions, the weight of the disk was thinner and it could be the second of the stack and start slipping. It made you program your stack based on the material content of the disk(!) not the sounds! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike clifford Subject: (exotica) Love-In - NOT! Date: 15 May 1998 10:12:05 -0600 The brother of an old roommate of mine once sent him a "Smile" cassette boot that had a great song by Ben Vaughn rounding out the second side called "Kill Mike Love." I forget the lyrics, but I think it perfectly encapsulated many of our feelings about the Beach Boys. I don't know if the worthiness of the Beach Boys for this list has been discussed before, but I just want to ask how many of us fans have had to fight Mike Love-induced images of the Beach Boys while trying to explain our feelings to civilians? I think he was happier to collaborate with that guy from "Full House" than anybody decent. Mike >> > >> >Some Mike Love facts: He blocked the release of Smile, he blocked the >> >releases of Brian's 70's stuff (they are actually much better than the >> >officially released records!), he was behind blocking the 1988 re-release >> >of Pet Sounds and the Smile Sessions album (fearing that Brian would get >> >too much attention along with the release of his amazing soloalbum that >> >year), he was solely responsible for the three-year delay of the release of >> >the Pet Sounds Box Set - which is why it's so hypocritical of him to praise >> >the very same album in the promo film for the Box Set. Come on, admit >> >publicly you hate it, don't be such a chicken and backstab Brian privately >> >where noone can hear you! >> > >> > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Baxter soundtracks :Cry of the Banshee/Edgar Allan Poe Date: 15 May 1998 19:06:08 +0200 >From: Pearmania >Can anyone on the list offer recommendations to buy these? it's not like his "exotica" work at all, this is orchestral horror music, dark, spooky, very effective to increase the horror effect of the images of the movie, no doubt, but as stand-alone rather boring IMO. i preferred John Cavacas' score to "horror express", which is also on the same cd. not only orchestral, but also with cymbalon, brass and electric guitar; easier to digest, not as dark. the 2 title theme versions are beautiful, with whistling, and a haunting melody a la Morricone. all in all not really recommended. Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be --- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) New eXotica Releases Overview Update Date: 15 May 1998 19:05:53 +0200 A new update to the eXotica Releases Overview is available. These are the most important recent additions, that where not yet announced here: - new (1998) releases & announcements - * Alberto Baldan Bembo: "Io E Mara" CD/LP, Right Tempo/Easy Tempo ET 910, Italy, 1998 * Martin Bottcher: "Kriminalfilm-Musik (Originaufnahmen Aus Pater-Brown, Edgar-Wallace- Und Anderen Krimis" CD, BSC 6518, Germany, 1998 * Attileo Mineo: "Man In Space With Sounds!" LP, Wah-Wah, Spain, 1998 ---------> wah-wah@mx3.redestb.es (also on CD, Subliminal Sounds SUBXMCD-604, Sweden, 1997) * Soundtrack: "Chariots Of The Gods" [by Peter Thomas] CD, Polydor, Germany, 1998 * Peter Wyngarde: "When Sex Leers Its Inquisitive Head" CD, RPM 187, UK, 1998 - old but interesting finds I stumbled on - * Jack Costanzo And Gerry Woo: "Latin Percussion With Soul" CD, Tico, USA?, 199? * Mongo Santamaria: "Afro Blue" CD, Concord 4781, USA, 199? * Jimmy Smith: "Bashin'" (The Unpredictable Jimmy Smith) CD, Polygram 539061, USA?, 199? * Sound Effects: "Lifesong. Amazing Sounds Of Threatened Birds" CD, Manklnd Music MANCD2, UK, 1992? NOTE: CONTAINS A "BIRD SONG SYMPHONY" of recordings of birds The eXotica Releases Overview is part of "Dada'quariums Exotica": Johan Dada Vis quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: (exotica) Danke Schoen Date: 15 May 1998 19:48:56 UT King Kini has a version of this by... nuts, Lenny Dee, I think. Anyway, some organ impresario. And it rocks my world. I was wondering what album is this on, and is it on any CD collection I might be able to get? I'd sure love to listen to it over and over again. Thanks, PeterR # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: Re[2]:(exotica) cleaning CDs (FWD) Date: 15 May 1998 19:54:56 UT << I am not kidding about this. Clean your CD's with cheap vodka and an old cotton T-shirt. >> T-Shirts do work great, but I don't know what 'wipe radially' means. You should wipe them from inside out, not around in circles. PeteR # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) Galt McDermot (more research) Date: 15 May 1998 17:18:02 +0100 Since asking about the Galt MacDermot track 'Ripped Open by Metal Explosions', I have discovered that it is from Galt MacDermot's First Natural Hair Band LP. This is not a soundtrack but I know that this track is cool - laid back minimal jazz with bass, drums, Fender Rhodes and not a lot else. I have also seen Galt MacDermot's 'The Nucleus' soundtrack. Does anyone know this? It has very sharp cover art and looks interesting. Charlie PS I am not obsessed by Galt MacDermot, honestly # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "keir keightley" Subject: (exotica) 10" rims... Date: 15 May 1998 12:25:44 PDT The 10" 33 1/3 LP begins to fall out of favour by 1954-55, as 12" becomes the standard for pop (When Columbia introduced the LP in 1948, the classical LPs tended to be 12", pop 10"). Sinatra's first two Capitols, both 1954, are 10"; _In the Wee Small Hours_, 1955, is 12"). Although, of course, 10" LPs lived on with budget labels and for one-offs like Rickie Lee Jones's _Girl At Her Volcano_ (ironically, only the cassette issue of that album has her great version of June Christy's "Something Cool", from the same-titled greatest 10" LP of ALL TIME!). One of the trademarks for the "raised rim" to protect LPs was called "gruve-gard". From VinylVille, Keir ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thom Heileson Subject: (exotica) Frankie Date: 15 May 1998 12:35:26 -0700 (www.sinatracenter.com) May 14, 1998 Frank Sinatra passed away at 10:50pm, Thursday, May 14 from an acute heart attack in the emergency room of Cedars-Sinai Medical Center. Mr. Sinatra is survived by his wife Barbara; children Frank, Jr., Tina, Robert, and Nancy; and two granddaughters. Frank Sinatra was the most influential vocalist of the 20th century. He was also a respected and award-winning actor, producer, orchestra conductor, cabaret and concert performer, civil rights activist, and esteemed philanthropist. Frank Sinatra was an incomparable personality whose impact will be felt for generations to come. Throughout his career he was quick to express sincere appreciation for the support his music received around the world. =20 Through his music, Frank Sinatra was a friend to millions. He is a comfort during sad times, and a co-celebrant at happy occasions. Frank Sinatra is a stranger to no one. =20 Frank Sinatra=92s personal request was that donations be made to the Barbara Sinatra Children=92s Center at Eisenhower Medical Center in Rancho Mirage, CA and Catholic Charities in lieu of flowers. Frank Sinatra was born on December 12, 1915. =20 Funeral services will be private. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) Frankie Date: 15 May 1998 12:55:49 PDT Frank, dead? Forget about it. > >May 14, 1998 > >From: Susan Reynolds > >Frank Sinatra passed away at 10:50pm, Thursday, May 14 from an acute >heart attack in the emergency room >of Cedars-Sinai Medical Center. Mr. Sinatra is survived by his wife >Barbara; children Frank, Jr., Tina, Robert, and Nancy; and two >granddaughters. Frank Sinatra was the most influential...................... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Moody Plays Mancini Date: 15 May 1998 16:12:58 -0500 Has anyone heard James Moody's 10-cut 1997 Warner Bros. CD? Worth picking up? --Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: Re: (exotica) Mike Love Not War Date: 15 May 1998 13:17:30 -0700 (PDT) Greetings Exotic Ones: The Beach Boys have certainly done their share of exotica, a great example is Diamond Head on the Friends album. Mr. Lanza himself chose an instrumental off of Pet Sounds for his Exotica compilation on Time Life Records (a recommended cd on the Vic's Lounge website). The best example of Mike Love's personality came out of a Goldmine Magazine interview with him 3 years ago. Mike Love pointed out to the magazine his good taste by telling the story of Paul McCarthy approaching him him years ago. Paul mentioned to Mike that the Beach Boys ought to pay more attention to their album covers. Mike proudly told Paul that the Beach Boys pay more attention to what goes on the records then on the record covers. He was so proud that he told Paul this. My favorite title to a Beach Boy Bootleg is "Mike Love Not War" Is any one here on the Beach Boy mailing list. If so what is it like? Chuck _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com (Lou Smith) Subject: (exotica) Japan's karaoke industry mourns Sinatra Date: 15 May 1998 21:33:32 GMT TOKYO, May 15 (AFP) - Japan's karaoke crooners Friday mourned the death of Frank Sinatra, the singer whom so many have failed to impersonate with painful renditions of the classic "My Way." Japan's lack of English-language skills has not spared it the out-of-tune, drunken night-time attempts to sing "My Way," "Strangers in the Night" and "New York, New York" that so many around the world have had to live through. And the death of Ol' Blue Eyes hit some people hard in the country that has the dubious distinction of inventing karaoke. Japanese businessmen stretch their vocal chords in karaoke clubs around the country. "It's so sad to hear of his death," said one karaoke bar owner in central Tokyo. "People in their 50s and 60s often sing his songs, especially 'My Way,' at my bar." Decades after the Chairman of the Board's classics left female fans swooning in the United States, he is still one of the favourites for karaoke devotees in Japan. "His songs are popular with everybody. Not only older men but young people sing his songs. He is aleady a legend even in Japan," said Hideyuki Saito, owner of the Smash Hits karaoke bar in Hiroo, central Tokyo. "His 'My Way' is one of the best three songs. The song is sung by not only Japanese but foreigners here. Almost every day my customers sing the song," said the 50-year-old Saito. A spokesman for Toei Video Co. Ltd., which sells songs to 5,000 karaoke clubs around Japan by transmitting them along the telephone lines, said 'My Way' was still a hit with clients. The company received about 1,000 requests a month for "My Way," a respectable showing against the top Japanese pop song which can receive 10,000 requests monthly, he said. But the Toei Video Co. official was not a fan. "I personally as well as those in my generation do not have special feeling about Sinatra since I only know him from 'New York, New York'," he said, adding that he does not expect any surge in requests after Sinatra's death. Japanese jazz singer Peggy Hayama, however, said: "We will never have a singer like him again." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com (Lou Smith) Subject: (exotica) fwd: Internet Update Special - Frank Sinatra 05/15/98 Date: 15 May 1998 21:45:48 GMT HOLLYWOOD, CALIFORNIA, U.S.A., 1998 MAY 15 (NB) -- By Bob Woods, Nwsbytes. Frank Sinatra, who died of a heart attack overnight, touched mny fans throughout much of his 82-year life. He reached the younger crowd with his "Duets," and older folks through his earlier movie and music career. A family spokesperson is quoted as saying, "Frank Sinatra was an incomparable personality whose impact will be felt for generations to come." Much of the "Chairman of the Board's" life, and now details of his death, are captured and chronicled in cyberspace for both current and future generations. >Celeb News >The publications and television offerings that make it their business >to cover celebrities are devoting a lot of cyberspace to bring >interested Web surfers the latest on Sinatra's death. Some are even >providing retrospectives on his life and chat rooms for people >to remember Ol' Blue Eyes' movie and singing careers. >E! Online: http://www.eonline.com >Mr. Showbiz: http://www.mrshowbiz.com >Entertainment Weekly: http://www.pathfinder.com/ew >People Online: http://www.people.com (also coverage from other >Time Warner publication can be reached via http://www.pathfinder.com ) >NOTE: Some of the sites you'd expect to be all over the story, like >Entertainment Tonight Online (http://www.etonline.com ) and Extra >(http://www.extratv.com ) did not even have a mention of Sinatra's death >as of 10:30 AM EDT. >The Latest >Most of the major news sites on the Web are blanketing cyberspace >with coverage of Ol' Blue Eyes' death. Some even have special >sections devoted to the man who captured the hearts of several >generations. Many print editions of newspapers around the US could not >cover Sinatra's death due to late deadlines, so many people are turning >to broadcast sources or the Internet for the latest. >New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com >Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com >Chicago Tribune: http://www.chicago.tribune.com >NBC News: http://www.msnbc.com >ABC News: http://www.abcnews.com >CNN: http://www.cnn.com >USA Today: http://www.usatoday.com >Of course, many other news sites are covering Sinatra's death. >Sinatra Family >The Sinatra family, which has kept an eye on how Frank was depicted in >traditional and new media, has its own site on the singing and acting >legend. A guestbook is available for Web surfers to "sign." A listing >of recent signatures shows that many, many people are already aware >of Sinatra's death. In addition, a user's Web browser automatically >downloads Sinatra's "Softly" at the site's index page. Watch out, >though -- it is a 0.5-megabyte (MB) download and requires an appropriate >plug-in to hear. >Sinatra Family Web Site: http://www.sinatrafamily.com >Fan Sites >Despite the family's efforts to control Sinatra's image, many of his >fans have operated Web sites dedicated to the crooner. Some of these >sites have updated information on Sinatra's life -- and death. >Blue-Eyes.com: http://www.blue-eyes.com >The Frank Sinatra Mailing List: http://www.sinatralist.com >Sinatra Center: http://www.sinatracenter.com >The Frank Sinatra WWW Page: http://www.vex.net/~buff/sinatra >Frank Sinatra Picture Archive: http://www.cc.edu/~jpatti/fspics.html >New Jersey Online >One notable Web site, New Jersey Online, has built the "Frank Sinatra >Celebrity Shrine." This site includes a forum where fans of the >Chairman are gathering and posting comments, a set of electronic >condolence cards that can be sent to the family, and multimedia >elements on Sinatra's music and life. RealAudio and RealVideo are >extensively used. >New Jersey Online's Sinatra Shrine: http://www.nj.com/sinatra >New Jersey Online: http://www.nj.com >NOTE: New Jersey Online was jammed with Web surfers trying to access >the site Friday morning. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clean@tamboo.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Danke Schoen Date: 15 May 1998 17:27:52 -0500 (CDT) the version of Danke Schoen of which Peter speaks is by Dick Hyman and it IS brilliant! from his Command LP "Fabulous" (RS33-862)... i don't think it's on any CD comps, but i could be wrong. you can hear it in RealAudio here: http://www.tamboo.com/CVsounds.html amongst other good things. new shows coming soon! - H.R.H. Kini >King Kini has a version of this by... nuts, Lenny Dee, I think. Anyway, some >organ impresario. And it rocks my world. I was wondering what album is this >on, and is it on any CD collection I might be able to get? I'd sure love to >listen to it over and over again. visit... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ King Kini's C L U B V E L V E T http://www.tamboo.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) Big and not so big ten inch...records Date: 15 May 1998 16:22:44 -0400 I find this thread a bunch o'fun, so please do not think I am flaming anyone, however, I grew up listening to a Bach record on Columbia (Ormandy conducting) that was a 10 inch. Perhaps we just lived in a bad part of town. Does anyone remember the sort of re-introduction of the EP in the eighties? These were all issued as 10 inch records. Titles I remember: Cheap Trick - Found All the Parts Nu Musik - Nu Musik The Clash - Black Market Clash Also, I have a copy of Joe "King" Carrasco and the Crowns' Bueno/Tuff Enuff on Stiff. It was and is the only stereo 78 I have. This also brings to mind the fact that Everybody's records found a stereo record of Duke Ellington from 1932, which was recorded on two disc machines. Both selection last about six minutes! Hey there Phillips, this isn't exotica, talk about exotica! Well, OK, although it doesn't QUITE fit time-wise, it most certainly fits musically. Silvestre Revueltas (1899-1940) was a man. A big, big man! I was going home two days ago and I heard the last movement of his piece "Night of the Mayas". This is a mind-blowing piece for folks like myself who like the large orchestral Baxter-esque exotica. Revueltas pulled NO punches. I think that http://www.gemm.com has a CD of his and I may be a-buying it soon. Carlos Chavez was and is better known (and also worth seeking out). I know we don't normally speak about what is deemed "classical" (let's not get into a semantics battle over it, either!) but as soon as I heard it I said, when I have a moment, I'm telling the list about thist! > The 10" 33 1/3 LP begins to fall out of favour by 1954-55, as 12" > becomes the standard for pop (When Columbia introduced the LP in 1948, > the classical LPs tended to be 12", pop 10"). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: (exotica) Sinatra and Vegas Date: 15 May 1998 17:42:32 -0600 Has anyone heard if/when they'll be dimming the lights on the strip? -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk) Subject: Re: (exotica) Sinatra and Vegas Date: 15 May 1998 15:50:05 -1000 >Has anyone heard if/when they'll be dimming the lights on the strip? Friday May 15 6:04 PM EDT Vegas to go dark for Sinatra LAS VEGAS, Nev., May 15 (UPI) - Most Las Vegas casinos are expected to turn off their famed neon signs for one minute (Friday night) in honor of legendary singer Frank Sinatra, who died in Los Angeles of a heart attack. Officials at the Riviera Hotel says most of the Las Vegas Strip casinos are likely to participate in the 8:30 p.m. PDT tribute, with many downtown casinos also expected to take part. (From Yahoo! News) *** *** *** Steve Funk (sfunk@pop.adn.com) Anchorage, AK USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim @ World Wide Wax" Subject: Re: (exotica) Sizes and speeds Date: 15 May 1998 16:19:55 +0000 > A word about the 16 RPMs... I don't recall any size but 12-inch > disks at this speed. I don't think I ever saw an attempt to push > commercial ("popular") music in this format. Through the 60's and > 70's there were a lot of "books on disk" and other educational > materials available this way. Most "household" variety machines had > this selection (as well and 33-1/3, 45, and 78). > I have a boxed set of 6 7" 16 2/3 RPMs. It was manufactured by a company called Highway Hi-Fi expressly for the Chrysler Corporation. Presumably, the under-dash 45 players Chrysler had in some cars could play at 16 RPM as well. It includes the entire Original Cast recording of "Pajama Game", a recording of George Bernard Shaw's "Don Juan In Hell" featuring Charles Laughton, various classical and EZ listening selections (Kostelanetz, Percy Faith), and a Disney record with 3 Davy Crockett stories & Gene Autry's "Champion"! Tim Barron World Wide Wax - Your source for classic vinyl Over 4,000 lps for sale & 600 scanned covers at: http://www.worldwidewax.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJJimmyBee Subject: (exotica) Frank Sinatra Date: 15 May 1998 19:59:30 EDT Last year I read in a real black 'zine that Frank Sinatra used to walk from gigs that made his black players and roadies enter clubs from the rear..The brothers quoted said Frank was The Man when it came to racial fairness....they said he took NO shit from NO body on NO level. I only wish I could remember the (glossy) 'zine from which it came...It made me think of him on a new plane and I only hope that when I play his songs from his 50's and early-mid 6T's LPs tomorrow on the radio that it does him justice.....Jimmy/live from Bill Marlowe's Sinatra Site # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk) Subject: (exotica) FWD: <> Date: 15 May 1998 16:19:25 -1000 >Here's a mild flirtation with whimsy, if it might be allowed on a >sorrowful day. > >****** > >Frank: How did all these people get into my room? > >Dino: This ain't yer room, pallie, this is the afterlife...heaven...the whole >pearly-gates thing...you know, "The Apple." > >Frank: "...and all that mother jazz!" > >Dino: Hey, you ain't lost your step, daddy. > >Frank: Where the hell is Sam? > >Dino: You got that right. > >Sammy: Hey! Hey! Talking about me as if I was sent to that "devil" >hangout. That >ain't right. > >Frank: (goosing Sammy) Sure, it ain't right, booby, but what can a person do >around these parts to raise fun? You remember _fun_, right, Sam? Hell, you >done wrote the book.... > >Sammy: By the way, Frank, forget about that "devil worship" thing... > >Dino: "Devil worship?" Youse means dat dose dere fingernails ain't real? I >suppose you wears "Nair" hosery, too (and, I thought it was leotards). Hey, >Frank-baby, check this-here guy's papers... > >Frank: "Frank-baby?" > >Sammy: Now, stop that! > >Frank: Boy. I sure have missed you guys. > >------------------------- >Jay Hopkins *** *** *** Steve Funk (sfunk@pop.adn.com) Anchorage, AK USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eb Subject: (exotica) Re: big 10-inch Date: 15 May 1998 17:47:06 -0700 I own two 10-inches released in recent times: a feces-brown promotional Butthole Surfers 10-inch (released in 1993) and Beck's oh-so-collectable "A Western Harvest Field by Moonlight" 10-inch (released in 1994). Eb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: Re: (exotica) Frank Sinatra Date: 15 May 1998 20:28:44 -0500 I always sing along with Frank in my car to warm up my voice before every gig in my non-exotica band. His range is "somewhat" close to mine and his songs are always easy to remember. "Old Devil Moon" is by far my ultimate-most high-fave Frank song ever!!!! Seeya Blue Eyes, Jeff Hess they put coffee in the coffee in brazil _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Sizes and speeds Date: 15 May 1998 23:22:18 -0400 > I have a boxed set of 6 7" 16 2/3 RPMs. It was manufactured by a > company called Highway Hi-Fi expressly for the Chrysler Corporation. Okay, I guess I'll descend into plug-ola after all. The "Highway Hi-Fi" article at my site (URL below) covers Chrysler's whole experiment with in-car turntables in detail, both the turntables (there were two generations -- one by CBS (16 2/3 rpm), one by RCA (45 rpm)) and a listing of the "Highway Hi-Fi" label records (manufactured by Columbia). Plenty of period illustrations also. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: Re: (exotica) If I knew Nat was coming, I'd have baked a Date: 15 May 1998 19:27:40 PDT >What is the hippest record that you found in your parent's collection, >exotica-wise? For me, it would be "Le Sacre du Savage" de Les Baxter, a 10" >LP. I wanted to reply to this before, but forgot. My mom loved to play Yma Sumac's "Voice of the Xtabay" when I was little, and seeing that in Incredibly Strange Music was what got me actively looking for exotica records. I didn't find anything too crazy in my parents' records (did find Gabor Szabo's "Jazz Raga" in my grandmother's records, later) but they do have a _lot_ of Sergio Mendes (which I love) and Herb Alpert (which I'm indifferent about) which is probably why I lean towards the ez stuff. Wait, I did find an Arthur Lyman "Taboo" and Martin Denny "Quiet Village," which I don't listen to very often, but it's nice to have them in almost mint condition (my parents are very good about that sort of thing). Jordana Robinson eero67@geocities.com www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: (exotica) Re: big 10-inch Date: 15 May 1998 19:35:54 PDT I took a triple 10-inch from the radio station while I worked there. It was by someone called Triplefastaction, I think. Boring alternative-type stuff, and not exotic at all, but someone asked about "clever" 10-inch sets... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MUV96TBD@Student2.lu.se (Kenny Brockelstein) Subject: Re: (exotica) Mike Love Not War Date: 16 May 1998 12:13:51 +0100 >The Beach Boys have certainly done their share of exotica, a great >example is Diamond Head on the Friends album. They have some *very* weiiiird Hawaiian stuff on Smiley Smile as well - a lot of the marimba stuff from Smile sounds suspiciously inspired by Martin Denny and Les Baxter, and the "doing doing doing" vocals on Cabin Essence must be a tribute to Esquivel! A lot of the percussion tracks are remarkably Quiet Village-ish too. I think what people consider to be BB's best music *is* very very exotica-ish. Sure, they didn't go with the exotica 'image' but the actual music is true exotica IMO. >Is any one here on the Beach Boy mailing list. If so what is it like? As if by some bizarre cosmical coincidence, I signed on to the Pet Sounds mailinglist yesterday! Actually, there's two lists, one 'closed' and one 'open' and I joined the latter one. For every BB-fan, the list is a must although there's some (it's inevitable I suppose) messages along the lines of "Mike is and stupid egominded idiot" which frankly can be quite tireing to read after a while. Those posts are thankfully in a minority, though. It's a pretty serious list. There's A LOT of messages/day (a lot more than on this list) so I recommend people to subscribe to the digest as opposed to getting the messages one by one. Fellow exotica-listee Gloria has signed on now too I believe, haven't heard from her yet but I gave her the sub-info atleast which is: A message to: Majordomo@landlocked.wcbe.org Write in the body: subscribe petsounds-digest Alright, I'll see atleast you there, Chuck! Kenny Brockelstein # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Frank Sinatra Date: 16 May 1998 09:50:58 -0400 >=20 > Last year I read in a real black 'zine that Frank Sinatra used to walk = from > gigs that made his black players and roadies enter clubs from the rear.= .The > brothers quoted said Frank was The Man when it came to racial fairness.= ...they > said he took NO shit from NO body on NO level.=20 Here are two excerpts from various Washington Post articles "There were more serious controversies. In 1981 and 1983, in defiance of a United Nations cultural boycott protesting South Africa's apartheid policies, Sinatra gave several concerts in Sun City in the black homeland of Bophuthatswana. He was criticized for insensitivity to the aspirations of oppressed blacks, a curious turnabout for someone who had championed Nat King=20 Cole's and Sammy Davis's right to have homes in white Hollywood neighborhoods =96=20 and who once slugged a Southerner for refusing to serve a black musician." and fnally this one "Sinatra believed in God. But death, which he called the Big Casino, left him speechless. For days, Sinatra couldn't talk after the death of his mother, killed when the plane he hired for her crashed into a mountain. On the phone with a dying Sammy Davis Jr., the two old friends simply held onto their receivers, grieving beyond words.=20 He thought you should live every moment as it if were your last, that too much thinking wasn't good for a man. He fought, really fought, for his privacy, but he hated being alone. Anything but boredom, especially after hours.=20 ``You only live once,'' he liked to say, ``and the way I live once is enough.'' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LTepedino Subject: Re: (exotica) James Bond Theme Date: 16 May 1998 11:32:04 EDT In a message dated 98-05-06 09:24:48 EDT, peter_risser@cinfin.com writes: << There's been some debate over on the Zorn list about who wrote the James Bond theme. Barry claims it's his, but it seems it was credited to some other guy (I forget the name). Does anyone here know the real deal? >> Sorry for the delayed response I haven't been checking my e mail over thelast couple of weeks! The "James Bond Theme" was actually written by John Barry. The story goes that Monty Norman was hired to do the soundtrack to "Dr. No" and the producers asked him to write a secret agent theme for the opening credits. Norman basically expanded upon his already written "Underneath The Mango Tree" which the producers found supremely underwhelming. The producers had taken quick a liking to records by the John Barry Seven and they enlisted Barry to come up with the theme (the track that drew their attention was "Bees Knees" which appears on the CD John Barry The EMI Years Vol 1 - and they asked Barry to write something similar to that composition). As Monty Norman was contractually the composer for the film Barry was hired under a "work for hire arrangement" (i.e. a flat fee) and was told he would not be credited as per the producers contract with Monty Norman. What was Barry paid? Approximately $300!!!! That song has earned millions in royalties for Monty Norman throughout the years. It is more out of stubborn embarrassment that Norman insists that he wrote it. Barry naturally regards this as perhaps the best abnd the worst business decision of his career - the worst for the payment arrangement, the best - because of the career in film music that it lead to, which he always wanted. Perhaps the best answer to the argument comes form Barry who said that if Monty Norman did write the theme as he said he did why didn't the producers ask Norman to compose the subsaquent James Bond films!! By the way you can hear the original (in stereo) John Barry Seven's pre-Dr, No soundtrack version of "The James Bond Theme" on the CD John Barry The EMI Years Vol 3 - which many consider to be the best version of the composition ever recorded. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: the_curator Subject: (exotica) FRANK SINATRA - RIP Date: 16 May 1998 10:39:39 +0000 =46olks some of you will be interested in this, i imagine >X-Sender: number9@pop3.demon.co.uk >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 20:52:01 +0100 >To: frank@number9.demon.co.uk >From: Tony Morley >Subject: FRANK SINATRA - RIP > > You are invited to join us at: > > > DONE SWINGIN' > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > A wake for the 20th Century's greatest vocalist and > legendary rabble rouser. How He would have wanted it. > > An appreciation of the life and work of: > > > FRANCIS ALBERT SINATRA > 1916 - 1998 > > > music film liquor > > > your hosts: Tony Morley, Simon Hopkins, Niall McGinley > > date: FRIDAY MAY 22nd > venue: ICA Bar, The Mall, London, SW1 > doors: 9pm - 1am > entry: =A34/=A33 concs. > dress code: rat pack/black tie > drink code: scotch straight up/vodka martini > more info: 0171 228 6616 > > > PLEASE CIRCULATE THIS E-MAIL TO ANYONE THAT CARES... > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stilgloria Subject: Re: (exotica) Mike Love Not War Date: 16 May 1998 10:39:27 EDT In a message dated 5/16/98 2:15:02 AM, MUV96TBD@Student2.lu.se writes: <> Yes, I signed on and you hear instantly if you succeeded. I have gotten three digests already. I've been a Beach Boy fan since 1962. Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) All things to all people Date: 16 May 1998 15:57:30 -0400 So let me get this straight. He WAS music. He embodied ALL music. People could never say NO to him. Especially the little people. If he said "dance", you'd dance. Four hours later, you'd still be dancing, too afraid to stop. He was the MOST important, the GREATEST. He was EVERYTHING. He was the 20th Century. "Duets" beat out Pearl Jam on the charts. He still had it, baby. He never recorded "Something Stupid". He never recorded anything stupid. Okay, just checking. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryls Subject: (exotica) Playlist for The Single Eye, May 17 Date: 18 May 1998 02:10:48 -0400 "The Single Eye" can be heard every Sunday at 4pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and is hosted by Brian and Cheryl. Comments & questions welcome. May 17 - Part 2 of our feature on the 15th International Festival Musique Actuelle at Victoriaville (FIMAV) - acts we'd like to see at the Festival - some will be appearing, some have appeared, and some...? Sukia: Dream Machine "Contacto Espacial con el Tercer Sexo" Holger Hiller: Abacus; Koniginnen "As Is" The Ex and Tom Cora: Hidegen Fujnak A Szelek "Scrabbling At The Lock" Lounge Lizards: No Pain For Cakes "Live In Berlin 1991 Volume 1" The Bad Examples: Krimi "The River The Night The Moon Temptation And You" Stock, Hausen and Walkman: Soil; Birthday Suit "Dummy Run" Solid Eye: Flu Season Waltz "Electromagnetic Field And Stream Of Consciousness" Laurent Pernice: Le Cheval De Mer "Sept Autres Creatures" Negativland: Pip Digs Pep "Free" Durutti Column: Sketch for Dawn "Domo Arigato" cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) and those drinks are nice too! Date: 18 May 1998 03:20:40 PDT I have Robert Drasnins "Voodoo!" at work and listen to it often, without getting tired of it. Lovely exotica.. Today I found an interview with Drasnin at the Dionysus homepage. It may have been up a long time, and maybe you all know about it... I dont know... but here is the URL: http://www.indieweb.com/dionysus/bacchus/drasnin.html -- Drasnin on the current exotica revival: "I have nothing against it. I guess it's just a natural response to these hectic times. You know, just kick-back, relax, and put on a Hawaiian shirt." Drasnin is also quick to add "and those drinks are nice too!" --- And you must all buy Dionysios Chaino CD. (Even if your fortunate to have the original LPs.) The tracks from Africana is amazing! Ama-a-a-a-z-z-z-ing! -- Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: (exotica) Cook Laboratories Date: 18 May 1998 06:49:27 -0500 (CDT) Mark Renwick wrote: >Emory Cook produced some of the first LPs with very wide frequency >response in the early fifties. Most of his catalog was classical music. > So were the cat fights he captured on "Cook's Tour of Stereo" Cook's salute to Stockhausen and the 12-tone boys? Thanks for the info, Mark. Love the idea of Emory Cook as mad scientist of stereo. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Byrnes Subject: (exotica) Test Exotica-mail Date: 17 May 1998 09:38:09 -0400 Test to see if messages to Exotica discussion group going through. Thankss, Kerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Russo" Subject: Re: (exotica) Tretchikoff Styling... Date: 18 May 1998 08:20:53 -0700 -----Original Message----- Re that ubiquitous painting: >> I happened to flip past the terrible Joe Pesci >> film "Jimmy Hollywood" the other night, and what was hanging on his >> apartment wall...? Yup, the one from the first Sound Gallery CD, I >> think. >Dozens of people will be thrilled to know that you can also see it in >the background in the models' flat in "Carry On Loving", in its native >context and era. It also pops up in the Peter Cooke/Dudley Moore comedy BEDAZZLED and an episode of MONTY PYTHON. C. "Ratso" Russo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: (exotica) Tiki Date: 18 May 1998 14:09:01 -0400 in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.... Another tasty LA location was the evocative Bahooka Ribs & Grog in the San Gabriel Valley town of Rosemead, featuring classic, extraordinary "tiki bar" decor that was little altered for the film. surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) track list for John Zacherle: "Dinner With Drac" (bootleg CD) Date: 18 May 1998 16:19:38 +0200 John Zacherle: "Dinner With Drac" CD, Transylvania 6-5000 (bootleg), USA, 1997, available from Norton: "http://members.aol.com/nortonrec/norton.html" Dinner with Drac Come with me to Transylvania Pistol Stomp Ghoul view commercial Dummy Doll Happy Halloween Let's twist again I was a teenage Caveman Hello Dolly A tisket, a casket Surfboard 109 Coolest little monster Clementine Hurry, Bury Baby Zacherie for president Little red Riding Hood Limb from Limbo Rock The spider and the fly A wicked thought Igor Spiderman Lullabye # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: (exotica) New to Exotica mailing list: My Vinyl Recliner Date: 18 May 1998 15:39:54 -0500 Hello there, I've just recently signed up to this mailing list and I'd like to take this opportunity to introduce myself. Although I'm a newbie to the Internet I am just the opposite in the Exotica/Lounge/Easy Listening world. I've been a 50's and 60's easy listening LP collector for about ten years now and for about eight of those years I've had the pleasure of doing a weekly radio program centered around this music. My program is called My Vinyl Recliner. If you ever find yourself in the greater Portland, Maine area on a Tuesday night be sure to tune into WMPG 90.9fm Most weeks I'll feature some special topic, for instance last week I did a Burt Bacharach Birthday tribute (featuring 10 versions of the Look of Love). and tomorrow night, 5/19, I'll be doing a show called My Vinyl T-Bone featuring Buddy Morrow, Si Zentner, Kai Winding and other trombonists from the Vinyl Recliner library of almost 2,000 lps. Also,I usually prepare my schedule months in advance so, if there is any interest in this shedule let me know and I will post it. I pride myself on coining the term Vinyl Recliner Music (or just recliner music for short) to describe this kind of music and I encourage others to use it to as well as another term of mine "in-seam" music, which I will describe in detail in a future posting. If any one would like to read a history of My Vinyl Recliner and its origins from a booklet I published last fall please e-mail and I'll send an e-mail version of it to you. Any questions? Finally let me say that I look forward to all of your enthusiastic postings and letters. Frank MY VINYL RECLINER---MUSIC FROM THE IN-SEAM OF THE 50'S AND 60'S # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) Frankie's blues Date: 18 May 1998 16:13:08 -0400 I don't quite how to ask this but I've been thinking about something ever since the tributes starting pouring in for the Chairman of the Board. When I was younger, I could never associate "the blues" - as I was introduced to it - with a lot of other music that people called blues. I couldn't make a connection between the Chicago blues, delta blues, country blues that seemed to influence the Stones, Yardbirds, Mayall, Canned Heat etc with this more sophisticated thing that people also called blues. I'm sure somebody this past weekend must have reiterated this idea that Sinatra was also a "blues singer". After all, if he embodied all American music, he must have been a blues singer. And I guess I can sort of see a connection between him and Billie Holiday. And maybe she was a JAZZ singer but wouldn't somebody call her a blues singer too? On the other hand, there's the Sinatra that I grew up with, the one who railed against rock music, and who when he did start to "cover" rock songs, chose the LEAST bluesy material. Then there's the idea that rock music was an extension of the blues. And I don't think anyone ever called Frank a "RHYTHM and blues" singer. Then also somewhere there in my thought process are those stories about Frank, the anti-racist, the friend to the black man, who broke the color barrier here and there, most notably in Las Vegas. On the other hand, if you were going to see a black singer in Vegas, it wasn't going to be Muddy Waters or Lonnie Johnson. I can't quite connect these thoughts but I think there is a connection. When I was a teenager in the sixties, I remember one friend who hated rock music and loved Sinatra. I just thought he was hopeless. Fairly recently I started hearing Frank's 50's material and I was surprised that there was ANYTHING there to love. I even started to like it and to let some of that deep anti-Frank prejudice to slip. Now I give him his due or what I think is due him but I still have this nagging "rock is blues and he hated rock" thing to contend with. Anyone? Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk) Subject: Re: (exotica) Frankie's blues Date: 18 May 1998 12:43:38 -1000 >I don't quite how to ask this but I've been thinking about something ever >since the tributes starting pouring in for the Chairman of the Board. >I can't quite connect these thoughts but I think there is a connection. >When I was a teenager in the sixties, I remember one friend who hated rock >music and loved Sinatra. I just thought he was hopeless. >Fairly recently I started hearing Frank's 50's material and I was surprised >that there was ANYTHING there to love. I even started to like it and to >let some of that deep anti-Frank prejudice to slip. >Now I give him his due or what I think is due him but I still have this >nagging "rock is blues and he hated rock" thing to contend with. Anyone? > >Nat The Frank Sinatra vs. Rock Music question is a tricky one, there don't seem to be any clear-cut answers. Sinatra hated rock music? He made some statements to this effect, like "Whatever it is I hope they find a cure for it", and so forth. Yet, listen to "That's Life"... if that ain't blues, I don't know what is. Then you have the 1968 TV special, "F.A.S. Does His Thing" where he features and even sings along with The Fifth Dimension. A few of his singles from the Capitol years (the more forgettable ones) are clearly aimed at the "twisin'" pop jukebox market. And of course, the controversial but undeniably chart-topping Duets projects where Frank gave the go-ahead to having rockers overdub their parts over his aging voice. Personally, I think Sinatra was conflicted between the "Great American Songbook" that he truly loved and could sell records with up to the 60s (Porter, Berlin, Cahn/VanHeusen, etc.) and wanting to stay current and popular with the young, record-buying public from the mid 60s on. Sometimes the results could be disasterous (the "Night & Day" disco single from 1977, for example. Or "Bad, Bad LeRoy Brown", "Mrs. Robinson", etc.) Sometimes he'd score a cross-over hit ("Strangers In The Night", "That's Life", "Somethin' Stupid" w/Nancy). Some of the new stuff he truly seemed to adore... he was clearly infatuated with the song "Goin' Out of My Head" throughout the late 60s. He was enamored with George Harrison's "Something" to the point of recording several different arrangements and performing it countless number of times live from 1970 throughout the 80s, referring to it as "one of the greatest love songs ever written" and so forth. Like you mentioned, he also tried to find new songwriters outside the "rock" world for new material (John Denver, Paul Anka, Joe Raposo, Michel Legrand) that he could relate to. He didn't seem content to simply rest on his laurels by becoming the "Grand Old Statesman of Classic American Song". Whatever the case, at least throughout the 70s, he'd always throw in some of those "contemporary hits" in his concerts "for the kids", as he put it. Anyway, I sure haven't answered the question but those are some of my own rambling thoughts on the subject. *** *** *** Steve Funk (sfunk@pop.adn.com) Anchorage, AK USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Frankie's blues Date: 18 May 1998 14:30:55 +0000 > >Now I give him his due or what I think is due him but I still have this > >nagging "rock is blues and he hated rock" thing to contend with. Anyone? > > No conclusions here, but I will add that the film snippet of Elvis singing with Frank on one of his TV specials was interesting to watch. There was tension AND admiration between the two behemoth egocentrists/entertainers. It was a fascinating interplay wherein Frank would sing a piece of one of Elvis's hits, and Elvis would answer back with a chunk of a Sinatra standard (I remember Presley interpreting "Witchcraft.") The arrangement (Billy May?) was pretty cool in itself. They worked off of each other amazingly well and both had a sense of the irony of the situation and had a great time with it...It seems as both were suprised that they were actually enjoying themselves. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicolas Reichelt Subject: Re: (exotica) Frankie's blues Date: 18 May 1998 23:36:55 +0200 Until I became rather old myself the music of Frank Sinatra and the like always was just "old people's music" to me. And I think I shouldn't consider him important only because he is so famous. Did he write his own songs at all? Did he at least write the lyrics? I don't think he's very exotic despite the fact he had some very few exotica related songs. Actually I read a lot of ugly Mafia-stories about him, but I can't tell wether they are true or not. But the thing I hate the most is when somebody else sings "I did it myself" (except of Sid Vicious). But I must say, when I heard him playing live in Hamburg some 7 or so years ago, he had a damn good sound. The 21 members orchestra he had was conducted by his brother and they were really good. A woman came to the front of the stage and gave a bouquet of flowers to Sinatra. He drew a handkerchief from his pocket and gave it to her in return. Later another woman came with flowers and he had another handkerchief. And so on. In the end he had given away about 10 handkerchiefs. That was really professional. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicolas Reichelt Subject: Re: (exotica) Frankie's blues Date: 18 May 1998 23:49:25 +0200 THIS IS THE RIGHT VERSION OF THIS MESSAGE. DELETE THE OTHER ONE. Until I became rather old myself the music of Frank Sinatra and the like always was just "old people's music" to me. And I think I shouldn't consider him important only because he is so famous. Did he write his own songs at all? Did he at least write the lyrics? I don't think he's very exotic despite the fact he had some very few exotica related songs. Actually I read a lot of ugly Mafia-stories about him, but I can't tell wether they are true or not. But the thing I hate the most is when somebody else sings "I did it my way" (except of Sid Vicious). But I must say, when I heard him playing live in Hamburg some 7 or so years ago, he had a damn good sound. The 21 members orchestra he had was conducted by his brother and they were really good. A woman came to the front of the stage and gave a bouquet of flowers to Sinatra. He drew a handkerchief from his pocket and gave it to her in return. Later another woman came with flowers and he had another handkerchief. And so on. In the end he had given away about 10 handkerchiefs. That was really professional. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tosh@loop.com (Tosh) Subject: Re: (exotica) Frankie's blues Date: 18 May 1998 15:55:39 -0700 (PDT) Sinatra was a product of his generation. Which mostly hated rock - especially in the Sixties. He probably felt threatened by Elvis, and totally couldn't get into someone like Johnnie Ray - who replaced him as a teen idol. Sinatra was a great POP singer. He sort of took a little bit of the blues, a little bit of jazz, and actually his recordings (especially his ballads) were very bluesy. His talent was to 'characterize' the song. He sort of filtered this great material (Porter, Berlin, etc.) and rearranged it to suit his purpose or style. I don't know if he was a bop fan or not. I think he liked Charlie Parker, but I could be wrong. Also he may have been the first one to make an album that is a concept record. The Capital sides were very much 'novel' like than 'short story.' Meaning the record was meant to be played as a whole and not just a bunch of singles stuck together as an album. I think he was the first great 'album' artist. Paul Moshay (who is on the list) probably can explain the essence of Sinatra's art. ----------------- Tosh Berman TamTam Books ---------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mighty recording corp." Subject: Re: (exotica) Frankie's blues Date: 18 May 1998 16:19:32 -0800 >Paul Moshay (who is on the list) probably can explain the essence of >Sinatra's art. =============== i believe you provided us with a fine start, tosh. thank you for the compliment. as for the essence of his art, well that seems a topic larger than i can tackle now. wish i were able to though. i will share though, that i did drive over to the Sinatra residence in beverly hills on friday evening... and lingered about the sidewalk with the other mourners for a couple hours. i didnt feel any better about Frank's passing for it, but i'm somehow i'm glad i went. this world feels much smaller now, without Frank in it. paul moshay mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833 los angeles, calif. 90078 (213) 851-5557, (213) 851-1551 fx new 'reply to' email now: mighty65@pacbell.net coming soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jbtwist Subject: Re: (exotica) Frankie's blues Date: 18 May 1998 23:54:55 EDT His nick says it all - "The Voice" And till i read all the recent tributes, I'd never consciously noticed his poifect diction, that made the words of so many the century's great songwriters flow so seamlessly over the sounds of so many great arrangers and musicians in the wee small hours of the morning...... So many legends are flawed: Babe Ruth, Elvis, Marilyn, Hendrix, Janis, Jerry........aren't we all human ? Is there anything more hauntingly, achingly sad and beautiful than the sound of a breaking heart ? Has anyone ever sung this sound to more people and with more meaning than Francis Albert ? JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mighty recording corp." Subject: (exotica) Elvis Costello on FAS in the Guardian Date: 18 May 1998 22:13:41 -0800 Under my skin Frank Sinatra was the singers' singer. Elvis Costello explains the magic that will never fade away My mam tells me that one of my first words was "skin". I was not an especially precocious child, I couldn't say whole sentences, but I knew how to request that I've Got You Under My Skin be played on the family record player. Then again, I might have been listening to that song since I was born, as both my parents were (and are) great admirers of Sinatra. When you listen to something so young, it obviously goes in deep. Although, as I grew up, it was natural to be caught up and distracted by the wonderful music of the moment, Sinatra never seemed square or old-fashioned. As it says on the lapel badge I once found in a junk shop: 'It's Sinatra's world. We just live in it.' Granted, he wanted little to do with beat music or rock'n'roll, but remember this: Sinatra may have occasionally enjoyed clams but, unlike Elvis Presley, he was never persuaded to sing their praises. When I started earning money, I invested in some old familiar Sinatra albums and found that they spoke very clearly about the adult things I was just beginning to understand. In the last few days I've been thinking about those special recorded moments, the finesse that lies beyond the popular landmarks of New York, New York or My Way. Top of any list would have to be I've Got You Under My Skin - that famous moment when Sinatra re-enters after the solo with "Don't you know, little fool. . ." For me, this is the greatest single moment in recorded music. I think the best tribute one can pay to Sinatra is to remember some of these special moments. Ask 10 people to pick 10 favourite songs, and they'll probably all give you different answers. That is also part of the genius - there was so much to choose from. Some fantastic recordings ended up as outtakes because his standards were so high. A while ago I was looking for a really good vocal version of My One And Only Love, and someone told me there was a Sinatra version. It turned out to be an absolutely brilliant reading of the song that had been added to a compilation CD as a bonus. It had been sitting in the vaults for over 40 years because for some reason it didn't fit into the plans at the time. This version seems to bridge the gap between the forties and the more world-weary sound of the later years. It is said that Sinatra went through a short period without success and in vocal crisis in the early fifties, and recovered in the mid-fifties. People say his voice was changed by experience, but I also wonder whether he made a conscious decision to sing lower. The lowest part of each melody at times almost became a spoken note. It gave him a great sense of tragedy and intimacy - from that moment people began to feel he was their friend, that he was singing just for them. Yet most of this depth of feeling, this sense of tragedy, was coded, because the lyrics speak largely in romantic conventions. Some of them would be hackneyed if you read them aloud, but he transformed them into poetry. The lyrics don't explain the complexity of life, as people now attempt to: the door closes or it fades to black before things get really sticky. In Sinatra's versions, it is the music that expresses the unspoken details. The best moments occur during the ballads, in the minute decisions he made. Take the Rodgers and Hart song Dancing On The Ceiling. I imagine it was written as a whimsical, clipped thirties dance number. He added one crucial word to the lyric - "all" in "all through the night" - and he drags it out to give a sense of longing. It's very subtle - one word transforms a polite, charming song into something so descriptive and erotic. Only The Lonely is my favourite album. It contains a revival of an old Bing Crosby number. Early on, Sinatra must have looked up to Crosby and, when he developed his adult style, he went back and re-recorded songs like What's New? He had respect for the past, but the confidence to give the song a complete new identity. The albums In The Wee Small Hours, Only The Lonely and No One Cares form a mighty trilogy. Many of the songs show Sinatra's ability to build up the drama in a restrained way and then provide a wonderful knock-out blow in the last eight or 16 bars. A prime example is Goodbye, the Gordon Jenkins song - it starts so melancholy and restrained, and when he finally releases that tension it comes as a shock. But it's never overwrought because he always has it under control. Many fans will prefer the swinging records, the brashness of the sixties, the prouder man singing Come Fly With Me. It's not my favourite period, but you can't help falling for the charm and vitality, as he throws those words around. He's chasing shadows away, chasing the bad stuff of life away. On the last occasion I saw him perform, at the Albert Hall in 1983, he was being slated for the quality of his voice. But then again, you could go back to 1957's Live In Seattle recording and hear how he learned to turn his then rare vocal frailty into an asset in When Your Lover Has Gone. With even less voice at the Albert Hall, he sang songs like Here's That Rainy Day and Don't You Worry About Me back-to-back - stoic, I'll-carry-on songs. He talked his way through three or four of them; then, just as we were about to give up on him, he unleashed a knockout The Lady Is A Tramp with all the energy he'd reserved. It was like a cunning boxer's technique. A couple of years earlier I was fortunate enough to hear Sinatra in wonderful voice at the Festival Hall. In the middle of the concert he typically acknowledged the composers of a song. I found myself holding my breath as he mentioned Ira Gershwin followed by Van Duke. I then knew he was going to make a rare performance of I Can't Get Started. You always hope your favourite singers will sing your favourite songs, but you resign yourself to hearing the most popular. This was unbelievable luck. When I bought the souvenir programme, there was a huge list of every song he'd ever sung in England, and I found he'd never performed it in England before. That's when you go peculiar and begin to feel a weird sense of connection. Sinatra had that ability to make it feel as if a song was for you, even though you knew that two-thirds of the audience felt the same. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D article posted at; http://reports.guardian.co.uk/articles/1998/5/18/1706.html =A0 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ghostown@ix.netcom.com Subject: (exotica) Looking for Shatner & Nimoy videos Date: 19 May 1998 02:31:39 -0400 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| I am looking for best possible source copies of the following videos: --William Shatner performing "Rocket Man" at 1978 Science Fiction Film Awards; this is a legendary clip, long circulating among collectors of weirdness. I have a copy, but it's a grainy, 4th-gen dub. Need better quality copy. --Leonard Nimoy performing any musical number on any TV show; in particular, I understand he performed on the Mike Douglas show several times. Need ASAP. Will pay $$ for copies of above or swap CDs or exotica of equivalent value. Please reply directly to me - NOT TO THE LIST Thanks! Irwin Chusid |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra? Date: 19 May 1998 00:55:18 -0700 Bear in mind that I am quite fond of Frank Sinatra, and think he is an immense and irreplaceable talent. (I am however getting a bit tired of his ongoing eulogy.) I will furthermore add for the sake of clarity thatI favor a wide-range of topics on this list and do not wish to impose any firm guidelines upon it. Whatever comes up and is interesting, let's dig into it. But I have been wondering..... How "exotic" is Ol' Blue Eyes, anyway? Is Sinatra -talk in keeping with the spirit of an exotica-flavored list? Isn't Sinatra unexotic in the same way Janis Joplin (With all respect to her immense talent and influence) is unexotic. Isn't the word "Unexotic" rather unexotic? One reflects upon the recent semantic examination of the term "Exotica." Not that it is really all that important either way. The death of Frank Sinatra COULD NOT have gone unnoticed on this list. Whether we devote future threads to Sinatra or not is of little consequence. Related or not to the "spirit" of the list, the discussion is interesting and should be welcome. It is. I'd just like to see the idea spun around a bit - just for fun. Any takers? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: (exotica) SPACE ROCK KLAUS SCHULZE DIG IT Date: 19 May 1998 01:05:05 -0700 It's German (or could you tell?) Released in 1980. Has a 23 minute track called Synthasy. Other songs are also brutishly long. That's all I know about this'n. Anyone have the poop on Klaus? Anyone? Anyone? 1980 BRAIN RECORDS GERMAN RELEASE KLAUS SCHULZE "DIG IT" THIS LP WAS DIGITALY RECORDED. THIS DISC HAS 4 LONG SONGS INCLUDING THE 23:10 MIN. SYNTHASY Any # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Tretchikoff Styling... Date: 19 May 1998 04:03:46 -0600 (MDT) As I said in an earlier mailing, these paintings are EVERYWHERE. Just last night it popped up on EastEnders, the popular British soap, in the vicar's homeless refuge. Jill "Mingo-go" > >>Dozens of people will be thrilled to know that you can also see it in >>the background in the models' flat in "Carry On Loving", in its native >>context and era. > >It also pops up in the Peter Cooke/Dudley Moore comedy BEDAZZLED and an >episode of MONTY PYTHON. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki Date: 19 May 1998 04:05:28 -0600 >in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.... > >Another tasty LA location was the evocative Bahooka Ribs & > Grog in the San Gabriel Valley town of Rosemead, featuring > classic, extraordinary "tiki bar" decor that was little altered > for the film. Bohooka is a pretty amazing tiki joint. I've been there too. If you are looking for tiki bars, the LA area is full of 'em. Always email Otto at Tiki News for the latest and greatest finds... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) Big and not so big ten inch...records Date: 19 May 1998 06:11:53 PDT My copy of "Music For Peace of Mind" (Revel w/ Hoffman)is a 10". Lacking a cover, though. Anyone got one for sale? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tosh@loop.com (Tosh) Subject: Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra? Date: 19 May 1998 06:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Is Sinatra exotic?.... in the sense of Martin Denny, Baxter, Peter Thomas, Yma Sumac, ... no. But in the sense of Scott Walker, Serge Gainsbourg, Elvis, etc. yes. Sinatra was one of those people who was on the verge of kitsch - especially Las Vegas kitsch - but somehow turned it all around and made it into a fine art. I think Dino (just by his attitude) is a much more exotica personality. The same goes for Sammy (especially the Candy Man period). The Sinatra image is exotica, in that he was an image before being a man. The hard-drinking, swinging, hedonistic, devil-may-care, bar singer. And besides he was surrounded by Exotica during his Capital years, no? Martin Denny was part of the capital gang (am I correct?), Yma Sumac, etc. - ----------------- Tosh Berman TamTam Books ---------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Frankly speaking Date: 19 May 1998 15:00:25 +0100 The Late Frank Sinatra There's no doubt that he had talent, excellent pitch and 'poifect diction', but I don't think he was more than occasionally Exotic. There have been several tribute programs on UK TV which have included segments of b/w film of bobbysoxers waiting Osmondesquely to see him in the 40's, and it looked like his 'poifect diction' was not their high priority :-) Now his daughter Nancy, was very often Exotic..... It's a shame to see that the passing years can be unkind. I hope that the gap left by Frank's demise is unfilled. I shudder to think that at this moment, Harry Connick Jr may be plotting some sort of foray into Frank's limelight...... Hugh. Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tosh@loop.com (Tosh) Subject: Re: (exotica) Frankly speaking Date: 19 May 1998 07:42:58 -0700 (PDT) > >I hope that the gap left by Frank's demise is unfilled. I shudder to think >that at this moment, Harry Connick Jr may be plotting some sort of >foray into Frank's limelight...... I don't think anyone can or will fill Sinatra's shoes. It is not only because of his talent, but that he was in the right place at the right time. Similar to Elvis & The Beatles. This goes beyond good art or bad art, or is he or not worthy of his talents - he sits on a place of time that was extremely culturally important. ----------------- Tosh Berman TamTam Books ---------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David J. Strauss" Subject: (exotica) Beach Boys Exotica Date: 19 May 1998 12:13:27 -0400 (EDT) You know, I wrote on Brian Wilson's connection to exotica a few months back for New York Observer. If you have AOL, you can do a search for it. It's in connection to the Pet Sounds Box Set. As much as many hate Mike Love,you have to admit that he's a complex and not uninteresting figure. Ever see the footage of him at the Royal Albert Hall, deep in his Maharishi period in in robes and long flowing hair and completely out of his mind? He and Brian were in sympathy concerning the cultish aspects of California. DS djs2852@is.nyu.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "keir keightley" Subject: (exotica) Sinatra, Exotica, and the Other Elvis Date: 19 May 1998 09:42:59 PDT In the late 70s, I was a huge Elvis Costello fan, and a fan of the new wave renaissance of pop after the onslaught of album-oriented crock that was most of the 70s...In NME interviews, in recording "My Funny Valentine", and especially on an early 80s episode of Late Night with David Letterman, Elvis Costello sang the praises of Frank Sinatra (Elvis desperately wanted Frank to record "Kid About It", although I'd say "Motel Matches", "Riot Act", or "Almost Blue" are more perfect candidates). So I had to find out why, why was Elvis, and then Joe Jackson, and Difford and Tilbrook from Squeeze, etc., why were they all saying "listen to Frank"? This led me to Frank, and to crappy old, non-rock, used records that cost a quarter, and, eventually, to what we know now to be "exotica" (that almost never costs a quarter, now). That's one reason Frank's exotic. I don't need to mention that, as President of Reprise Records, he hired Les Baxter and lots of other exotica-pantheon members (isn't _Songs of Couch and Consultation_ on Reprise?). If Nancy and Lee singing "Some Velvet Morning" is exotic, then so is _Frank Sinatra Sings for Only the Lonely_. Because Lee (never mind Nancy) wouldn't have been so worried about getting "straight" without "One for my Baby", and "Angel Eyes", and and and.... Finally, to get back to Nat's "blues" question: I'm pretty damn sure that most "real" or "serious" Jazz-with-a-capital-J jazz fans shudder and puke when they stumble across what we take seriously, what we love, what we worship as musical genius (I know - I've seen it happen - well, not the puking part). But in its time, most of what is now exotica was part of a bigger picture known as "jazz", mutated and warped and hybrid, sure; but every single one of our fave arrangers came out of the big bands and swing arranging. Part of the "adultness" that we love about exotica would have been seen as "jazziness" at the time. And here's where the "blues" question comes in: for white "adults" in the 40s, 50s, and 60s, the "blues" was a part of jazz. Not the country blues of Robert Johnson, or its electrified Chicago cousins; but the 12-bar, riff-based conventions of swing, that Esquivel and Mancini and everyone cut their teeth on. THIS is the "blues" of Sinatra, or Shirley Horn singing "The Great City", or "Radar Blues" on _Music Out of the Moon_, or any late-period Cal Tjader vibe-fest. "The blues", like exotica, is a complex thing... As someone posted a long time ago, in Vegas the "lounge" was where you played on the way up or on the way down, and by the time Las Vegas became Las Vegas, Sinatra was strictly main-room, top of the marquee material. He actually owned the lounge at the Sands, but he never played it. But he IS lounge. Maybe he only cut a few tracks with gongs and boobams - but he IS exotic. From BossaNovaVille, Keir ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com (Lou Smith) Subject: (exotica) Sinatra's last words: ``I'm losing it'' Date: 19 May 1998 17:49:14 GMT LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Singer Frank Sinatra's last words were ``I'm losing it,'' according to Daily Variety senior columnist Army Archerd in a piece to be published Tuesday. Archerd, in his daily column, said Sinatra's daughter Nancy was told this by the nurse tending her father when he was rushed to Cedars Sinai Medical Center last Thursday night where he died of a heart attack at age 82. The columnist, who interviewed Nancy Sinatra, said she was at her home watching the final episode of ``Seinfeld'' when she received word that her father had been rushed to Cedars Sinai. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) Dear Exotica, I didn't ever think I would write you, but... Date: 19 May 1998 08:15:40 -0400 I did not wish to comment on this, because I don't have the same feeling about Sinatra as many do (Talented, yes, legend yes; I just didn't much care for much of what he sang. I do not want a truckload of e-mail trying to convert me on this or Elvis Presley, for that matter). However, Ella Fitzgerald died in '96 and I don't recall the same amount of weeping and wailing from the country. Sigh. On a lighter (literally?) note there is at least one album of Sinatra's which I found for a friend, but it took some doing. "Great Songs From Great Britain" (Reprise) was an album that he recorded with Robert Farnon that he was apparently so dissatisfied with he burned the masters! Since I am no judge of Sinatra's material, two questions arise: 1. Can anyone flesh out this story? 2. Did he ever do that with any other albums or records of his? Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Sando Subject: Re: (exotica) Dear Exotica, I didn't ever think I would write Date: 19 May 1998 10:13:08 -0700 At 08:15 AM 5/19/98 -0400, Brian Phillips wrote: > >I did not wish to comment on this, because I don't have the same feeling >about Sinatra as many do (snip) However, Ella Fitzgerald died in '96 and I don't recall the same amount of weeping and >wailing from the country. Don't agree with you on Sinatra but I've thought the same thing about Ella. And Sarah Vaughan. EVen lovely Alice Faye! MisterLUCKY, published by Coconut Grove Media Visit MisterLUCKY on the web: http://www.mrlucky.com PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod Subject: Re: (exotica) Dear Exotica, I didn't ever think I would write you, but... Date: 19 May 1998 13:30:39 EDT In a message dated 98-05-19 13:05:02 EDT, Brian Philips wrote: << I did not wish to comment on this, because I don't have the same feeling about Sinatra as many do (Talented, yes, legend yes; I just didn't much care for much of what he sang. >> At the risk of adding to this (minor) flame. I liked some of Sinatra's stuff but most of it, at least to me, was slick packaging. There are lots of great singers but few that are musically AND vocally talented. Take Harry Connick, Jr.-- Sinatra-like but have you seen him play the piano????? And keep in mind I am not a tremendous fan of Connick (now my wife's -- that's another story). I do appreciate his vast abilities tho. Again, I don't want to flame too much because that is not my real intention. It's just that I always saw the Frank as being typical "packaged" big Hollywood/big Music Business and not necessarly the talent that other performers/musicians had. OK, do your worst. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rcbrooksod Subject: Re: (exotica) Sinatra's last words: ``I'm losing it'' Date: 19 May 1998 13:32:25 EDT In a message dated 98-05-19 12:53:06 EDT, you write: << The columnist, who interviewed Nancy Sinatra, said she was at her home watching the final episode of ``Seinfeld'' when she received word that her father had been rushed to Cedars Sinai. >> Yada, Yada . . . . .now . Nada, Nada. I wonder where she was when Kennedy was shot? Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: (exotica) Barbarella Reissue Date: 19 May 1998 19:01:15 +0000 Just seen this is available: > O.S.T - BARBARELLA > DY31908 Dynovoice LP > clear red vinyl and comes with a baby poster. So is this the long awaited *legit* reissue? Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: (exotica) 10 inches of joy Date: 19 May 1998 19:01:15 +0000 And of course the recent Free Design comp ("Bubbles") on Siesta is also available on double 10-inch vinyl. Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) SPACE ROCK KLAUS SCHULZE DIG IT Date: 19 May 1998 15:36:43 -0400 > From: Ron Grandia > Subject: (exotica) SPACE ROCK KLAUS SCHULZE DIG IT > > It's German (or could you tell?) Released in 1980. Has a 23 minute track > called Synthasy. Other songs are also brutishly long. > That's all I know about this'n. Anyone have the poop on Klaus? He was with Tangerine Dream in their early, early guitar noise/drone days. Went on solo space missions after that. I don't know about this album, but I do have his "Picture Music" (Brain 1067) from 1974. It's all keyboards (Arp synths & Farfisa organ) with a little bit of drums and pitter patter percussion. Minor key droney stuff, very ambient -- in that 70's European mode. Each side is one long track. I have no idea what sort of thing he might have been doing by 1980. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Subject: (exotica) 2 New CD's you just GOTTA have! Date: 19 May 1998 15:38:55 -0700 Hello all, Here are 2 more new CD's that you just gotta have! LSD, Battle For The Mind=20 CD - $15 This "internationally known speaker" tells us why LSD is a greater threat to America than the atomic bomb, in this hilarious late-'60s recording. Also included is W. Cleon Skousen's "Instant Insanity Drugs," another ultra-paranoid rant from the same era. Skousen is the author of such "best sellers" as "The Naked Communist" and "So You Want to Raise a Boy." 2 Insanely rare LP=92s that usually are priced WAY MORE than I care to go into right now, on 1 CD, this CD in fact, for the un-be-lieve-a-bly LOW PRICE of 15 measley bucks CRISWELL "The Legendary Criswell Predicts Your Incredible Future" =20 CD - $15 That spooky guy who rose out of the coffin in "Plan 9 From Outer Space" tells us all about the future, with 42 minutes of nonsequitur gems like "I predict that we will have found out that we are a captive planet, and have moved into the powerful orbit of Mars!" Uh, yeah right pal. Too, too funny And the Celebrities at Their Worst Double CD is back in stock in plentifu= l amounts for all of you who LOVE to laugh out loud at other people's neurotic behavior - $18, 2 CD's Thanks! Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BasicHip Subject: (exotica) 3 Motor Music releases Date: 19 May 1998 21:37:47 EDT Has anybody heard any of these Motor Music (Germany) releases? Please comment, if you have. I recall an enthusiastic response on "Latin Lounge" 1) Martin Bottcher -- Sound Kaleidoscope 2) Gary McFarland -- Latin Lounge 3) Maurice Pop -- Power Pop Thank you # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) Mr. Lucky Goes Latin Date: 19 May 1998 22:59:26 -0400 Good idea? Bad idea? I saw it at a book/record sale. Brian Phillips http://www.mindspring.com/~hagar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steven Peterson" Subject: (exotica) Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 23:26:55 -0500 Date: 19 May 1998 21:33:24 -0600 Has anyone ever heard Arthur Lyman's album, " Yellow Bird "? It's supposed to released June 8 on cd. Any reviews welcome. Steve speterso@isoa.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clean@tamboo.com Subject: (exotica) Re: Mr. Lucky Goes Latin Date: 19 May 1998 22:42:28 -0500 (CDT) >Good idea? Bad idea? I saw it at a book/record sale. i absolutely LOVE this record. kinda quirky, very mancini. one of my all-time favorites. a must have, i say. - kini visit... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ King Kini's C L U B V E L V E T http://www.tamboo.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra? Date: 20 May 1998 03:41:11 -0400 At 12:55 AM 19/05/98 -0700, Ron Grandia wrote: >I have been wondering..... >How "exotic" is Ol' Blue Eyes, anyway? >Is Sinatra -talk in keeping with the spirit of an exotica-flavored list? I posted about Sinatra because it was the obvious moment to do so. But NO, I don't think Sinatra qualifies as "exotica". IF someone thinks he does, I can see it. I have Nelson Riddle records in my exotica section. There's obviously a connection. I guess I thought of this list as more properly a LOUNGE music list and Frank is certainly a lounge singer. I'd rather hear about Frank here than about Mike Love... although for me there's an interesting connection seeing as how I grew up hating both of them. I've been on this list a few months. A lot of the time people discuss things that I don't consider "exotica" and it only bothers me when they try to argue how it IS exotica. Mike Love ain't exotica. Mike Love ain't rock n roll either for that matter. And as much as the Beach Boys were a surf band and there's a connection between surf and exotica, if someone showed me their exotica collection and it was a bunch of Beach Boys records, I'd think they missed the point somewhere. But then I get a little annoyed when someone shows me a Natalie Cole record and tells me they like jazz. All music can be connected to all music. The basic reason I wouldn't really want to discuss Frank as exotica is because he was a huge star, at the centre of show biz and I'm more interested in the fringes. Frank Sinatra JR, that's another question entirely. I actually saw an obit where they made a point of saying how Nancy followed in her father's footsteps but made no mention of Junior. Poor Junior. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Dear Exotica, I didn't ever think I would write you, Date: 20 May 1998 03:38:41 -0600 At 13:30 19/05/98 EDT, you wrote: > >In a message dated 98-05-19 13:05:02 EDT, Brian Philips wrote: > ><< I did not wish to comment on this, because I don't have the same feeling > about Sinatra as many do (Talented, yes, legend yes; I just didn't much care > for much of what he sang. >> > >At the risk of adding to this (minor) flame. I liked some of Sinatra's stuff >but most of it, at least to me, was slick packaging. There are lots of great >singers but few that are musically AND vocally talented. Take Harry Connick, >Jr.-- Sinatra-like but have you seen him play the piano????? And keep in mind >I am not a tremendous fan of Connick (now my wife's -- that's another story). >I do appreciate his vast abilities tho. Yet another exoticat in agreement with this general vibe. He is talented. Great voice. I like the aura of Frank. The whole Vegas thang. The stories surrounding him. But do I own his records? No. Musically, he really doesn't interest me. I usually tell people I like "lounge" music because it is kinda hard to describe to the average Joe what it is that I like. And Frank is certainly one of the top lounge lizards - even though he was main circuit material. But I would certainly not play his records in my set. Again, this is no flame, just letting the list know that the huge onslaught of Sinatra postings is somewhat tiresome for a few of us... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra? Date: 20 May 1998 03:43:53 -0600 >I posted about Sinatra because it was the obvious moment to do so. >But NO, I don't think Sinatra qualifies as "exotica". >IF someone thinks he does, I can see it. I have Nelson Riddle records in >my exotica section. There's obviously a connection. I guess I thought of >this list as more properly a LOUNGE music list and Frank is certainly a >lounge singer. >I'd rather hear about Frank here than about Mike Love... although for me >there's an interesting connection seeing as how I grew up hating both of them. >I've been on this list a few months. A lot of the time people discuss >things that I don't consider "exotica" and it only bothers me when they try >to argue how it IS exotica. Mike Love ain't exotica. Mike Love ain't rock >n roll either for that matter. And as much as the Beach Boys were a surf >band and there's a connection between surf and exotica, if someone showed >me their exotica collection and it was a bunch of Beach Boys records, I'd >think they missed the point somewhere. OK. OK. A lot of stuff that is not strictly exotica is mentioned on the list. I would certainly agree with that. And it doesn't really bother me either. Most of the points made in this full posting I would fully agree with BUT... Beach Boys are certainly not a exotica band. Very true. But there are several tracks of theirs that could be hardly considered anything BUT exotica. "Diamond Head" could easily be considered an exotica classic. So I think some discussion on this band, certainly the passing out of the Beach Boys mailing list addresses, could be considered exotica topical stuff. Also much of their stuff is kinda weird and certainly with fringe appeal, but it is not the "surf" stuff that they are generally "known" for. I poo pooed the Beach Boys for many years until so many bands that I admired kept saying how brilliant they were so I dug a bit deeper - much like Keir and his Elvis Costello/Frank story. Frankly, if someone showed me their exotica collection and they DIDN'T have a couple Beach Boys records in it, I might think that they had missed the point somewhere... It's all subjective, but I think most of the topics posted are of interest to several people on this list. We're all just pretty passionate about music, aren't we? Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "keir keightley" Subject: (exotica) Tretchikoff Styling... Date: 20 May 1998 02:59:22 PDT And there's a green woman on the cover of a 1994 Chumbawumba album whose title escapes me... From BossaNovaVille, Keir ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: (exotica) Phuture Lounge playlist - 17 May Date: 20 May 1998 06:46:52 -0600 Well, it is the last show of mine until the next time the station is on air. Took place on SUnday, May 17, Subcity RAdio, Glasgow, 106.2. 3.30-5pm with hostess DJ Mingo-go. If you have direct questions, please email me. 5TH DIMENSION "It's a Great Life" THE FREE DESIGN "A Leaf Has Veins" THE MONKEES "Love is Only Sleeping" BEATLES "The Word" BOB CREWE "Smoke (Viper Vapor)" PETER COOK & DUDLEY MOORE "Bedazzled" HIGH LLAMAS "Jazzed Carpenter" A. TROVAIOLI & AF LAVAGNINO "Ku Klux Klan Sequence" ENNIO MORRICONE "Le Foto Proibite Di Una Signora Per Bene" PIERO PICCIONI "Mr. Dante Fontana" ALBERTO BALDAN BEMBO "Ore 24" JOHNNY DORELLI "Arriva La Bomba" FRANCE GALL "Avant la Bagarre" CURTIS MAYFIELD "Give Me Your Love" HENRY MANCINI "Here's Looking at You, Kid" LONNIE LISTON SMITH "Expansions" LOVE UNLIMITED ORCHESTRA "Love's Theme" 21 TROMBONES "The Party" I BARONETTI "Soul Finger" FREE DESIGN "Bubbles" NANCY SINATRA & LEE HAZLEWOOD "Summer Wine" BURT BACHARACH "Make It Easy on Yourself" SOPHIA LOREN "De Jour en Jour" ENNIO MORRICONE "La Donna Gattina" DO-RE-ME CHILDREN CHOIR "Spooky" NANCY & LEE "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) The latest haul, but don't tell my wife! Date: 20 May 1998 09:00:17 -0400 I had to spirit these finds into the house because, as many of you know, I recently bought four boxes worth of records. Here is what I came up with (haven't heard all of it yet): 1. Korla Pandit - Music of Mystery and Romance This is on Fantasy, on red vinyl (Mort Sahl's first was issued this way too). Solo organ and great stuff. 2. Apparently, all this talk of 10" records and Cook has gotten to me. Not only do I find a record (12 inches) supervised by Cook (a fellow named Foote?), I found a 10" record called "Speed the Neighbors Exit" by Jimmy Carroll. With a note on the back that said something about "Bull in a China Shop Hi-Fi", this record yelled "Buy me, daddy!". It is an assault of bells, drums and other percussion, much like DAVID Carroll. One of the tracks is "Tinkle, Tinkle Little Bell" Is Jimmy a brother to David? Has anyone else heard this? Do I know where the question mark key is on my machine or what??? 3. Another 10 - incher was a beat but playable "An American in Paris" starring a fellow named Leslie Caron and a woman named Gene Kelly. "I'll Build a Stairway to Paradise" by Georges Guetary is too much! US Version: This plus a 78 by the Harmonaires and a 45 by the Gants cost me $6.96! International: This plus a 78 by the Harmonaires and a 45 by the Gants cost me 41 Francs! This plus a 78 by the Harmonaires and a 45 by the Gants cost me 10 Canadian Dollars This plus a 78 by the Harmonaires and a 45 by the Gants cost me 4 Pounds! This plus a 78 by the Harmonaires and a 45 by the Gants cost me 10 Swiss Francs! This plus a 78 by the Harmonaires and a 45 by the Gants cost me 12, 235 Lira! Whew! 4. Can we talk more about 10 inch records and Cook? It worked for me! Let's also talk about Stormy Weather by the Five Sharps, how it felt when you won the lottery, dream vacations, world peace and 0% unemployment? Who knows what can happen next? Yes, I do know who Kelly and Caron are, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com (Lou Smith) Subject: (exotica) fwd: Truman Show trailer music Date: 20 May 1998 15:35:07 GMT FYI for ComEd fans. -Lou In rec.music.movies, Dan Goldwasser wrote: >DrEldon wrote: >> A good chunk of the music from THE TRUMAN SHOW trailer (during the sentimental >> parts) is from Philip Glass' POWASQATSI (the same music that was used in the >> PHILADELPHIA trailer). > >Although it depends on which trailer you see. > >The first trailer (shown initially with TITANIC) featured original >music by Music Junkies, and ended with The Blue Danube Waltz. > >The new trailer starts off with FOUR ROOMS, goes into what I believe ------------------------ >is POWASQATSI, and then ends with DRAGON: THE BRUCE LEE STORY. >Dan >Dan Goldwasser (dsg@soundtrack.net) >Director of West Coast Operations >http://www.soundtrack.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra? Date: 20 May 1998 10:48:54 -0400 > We're all just pretty passionate about > music, aren't we? > > Jill "Mingo-go" > We are, Jill. Indeed we certainly are. Well said. surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra? Date: 20 May 1998 11:07:28 -0400 At 03:43 AM 20/05/98 -0600, Jill Mingo wrote: >Frankly, if someone showed me their exotica collection and they DIDN'T have >a couple Beach Boys records in it, I might think that they had missed the >point somewhere... Really? And how would you make that point clearer to them? I've got the Hollyridge Strings doing the Beach Boys songbook. Is there still hope? (By the way, if that was a flame that's okay because I like being flamed. I've never quite understood how a bunch of people could discuss music without occasionally impugning the other's taste.) This is kind of a funny question for me because it reminds me of all the different ways of ORGANIZING records that I've come across. The people like me who have their records in twenty different categories on the one side and on the other side, the ones who have all their records in alphabetical order with no regard for genre or category. I don't have Beach Boy records but if I did, I'd put them near the Beatles, except I don't have Beatles so maybe I'd put them near the Beefheart - unless you think Beefheart's not really his last name so you should put him under "Captain" instead. But I wouldn't put my phantom Beach Boys records next to my Les BAXTER records, assuming I had my exotica stuff in alphabetical order which I don't. And assuming I had my exotica in one section which I also don't. I don't know. I think of the Beach Boys as a rock n roll band. Or as the pathetic shadow of a once great rock n roll band. I don't think of them as lounge or easy listening - even if a lot of their stuff is soft and easy - or as exotica, even if their beach, island vibe relates to exotica. This keeps coming up. People posting "I know this isn't quite exotica but do you mind if I talk about this anyway??" The permission-asking gets kind of tiresome. But so does the justification... "Can I talk about this please? It isn't exotica but on second thought IT REALLY IS". I'm still back on the record organizing question. I'm ashamed to admit that I have my Marty Robbins Hawaaian record with my Hawaaian records rather than with my Marty Robbins records. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) You only live once Date: 20 May 1998 10:40:36 +0100 Did a bit of shopping at the weekend at two record fairs at Victoria and Tottenham Court Road and emerged with some bizarre new gems (including Mort Garson's Zodiac Sounds). While I was there, I spotted the 'You Only Live Once' soundtrack - not the 1937 film but a more recent (late 60s/early 70s) film. The LP has a blue and white cover, does anybody know more details? Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) Net radio Date: 20 May 1998 16:40:44 +0100 Can anyone recommend a radio station with internet access that plays records that would appeal to Exotica subscribers and plays during the daytime (UK daytime)? Thanks Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) You only live once Date: 20 May 1998 12:36:45 -0400 At 10:40 AM +0100 5/20/98, Charles Moseley wrote: >I spotted the 'You Only Live >Once' soundtrack - not the 1937 film but a more recent (late 60s/early 70s) >film. The LP has a blue and white cover, does anybody know more details? An excellent soundtrack, by the underrated Jacques Loussier. A couple of tracks from this have shown up on some EZ and funk bootlegs - - "Clara's Jerk" is on "Beat Actione", for example. There's some bossa nova and other groovy sounds. Don't know anything about the film, except that it's from around 1967. Loussier also did the beautiful "Dark Of The Sun" track (the theme is incredible). He's best known for a series of albums featuring his jazz arrangements of Bach compositions (Loussier is a pianist, btw) br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) 3 Motor Music releases Date: 20 May 1998 12:43:44 -0400 At 9:37 PM -0400 5/19/98, BasicHip wrote: >Has anybody heard any of these Motor Music (Germany) releases? >1) Martin Bottcher -- Sound Kaleidoscope > >2) Gary McFarland -- Latin Lounge > >3) Maurice Pop -- Power Pop The Maurice Pop disc is great; it's that uptempo, horn driven late 60's 'Sound Gallery' style of Discotheque a Go-Go. Highly recommended if you like that style. The Bottcher disc was a disappointment; I was expecting more of that Go-Go sound, but overall it's fairly syrupy and slow. But if you like that 'elevator' sound........... Haven't heard the McFarland, but I've got high expectations for it, based on his "Bloop Bleep" track on 'Les Yper Sound'. Personally, I'm a big fan of that uptempo Latin groove (made by folks of all ethnic backgrounds) br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra? Date: 20 May 1998 11:17:08 -0600 At 11:07 20/05/98 -0400, you wrote: >At 03:43 AM 20/05/98 -0600, Jill Mingo wrote: > >>Frankly, if someone showed me their exotica collection and they DIDN'T have >>a couple Beach Boys records in it, I might think that they had missed the >>point somewhere... > >Really? And how would you make that point clearer to them? No, this wasn't a flame. This "point" business refered to you saying someone having Beach Boys in a collection they thought to be exotic as "missing the point". I wrote my comment above simply to point out what I wrote in my next statement , that music is subjective. I personally think a track like "Diamond Head" is an exotic classic which I am quite sure was recorded in direct reference to Hawaii-exotica culture. No, they are not an exotica band. Yes, they have exotica tracks. I don't think there is one person on this list that has that track who would disagree with me. Much light pop music often gets categorised as "Easy listening" music - like The Free Design, for instance. Beach Boys are light pop music quite often, almost easy-esque. If someone said to me, "I like exotica. I've got the Beach Boys." Well, I'd wonder a bit. But if someone into exotica mentioned how much they liked the Beach Boys, I'd know immediately what they were talking about. Your comments just kinda seemed like since you don't particularly see the exotic side of this band (am I right to assume that you probably wouldn't buy their stuff - note: I didn't say "dislike them", I just said you wouldn't buy their stuff..) And I think there are plenty of people out there who could understand their relevance in briefly discussing them from time to time on the list. Much like Sinatra. He's seen as easy or lounge, which a lot of exotica gets classified as. I don't see him as "exotic" although he probably has the odd track that is. Which is why I made the comment at the end that we're all just really passionate about music. I like the looseness of the list. >This keeps coming up. People posting "I know this isn't quite exotica but >do you mind if I talk about this anyway??" The permission-asking gets kind >of tiresome. But so does the justification... >"Can I talk about this please? It isn't exotica but on second thought IT >REALLY IS". I agree. People should just ask something if they want. We all have a wide range of musical knowledge. People should just ask or write what comes up. It just seems that you took offense when someone questioned why there was so much Sinatra talk and to try to justify your point, you started pointing out how un-exotic the Beach Boys were. Well, that is your opinion, but it isn't that far-stretched to see them as having exotica-influenced tracks, in mine. And considering the original posting that started this off was about their work getting covered by a Mariachi band, a long time exotica/EZ practice, the covering of pop hits, it all seemed kinda topical. And then it was discussed about their cancellation of working with The High Llamas, a band that is quite commonly considered as modern exotica. So I think it is relevant to give them the odd nod. And there were only a handful of postings about them anyway. >I'm still back on the record organizing question. I'm ashamed to admit >that I have my Marty Robbins Hawaaian record with my Hawaaian records >rather than with my Marty Robbins records. As for categorising, another subjective thing. Can't comment on that one...I just do what feels right so I can find stuff. Again, no flames from me...like 'em or not. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "VIC RUGH" Subject: (exotica) re: Dear Ex, I didn't think... Date: 20 May 1998 11:39:51 CDT This is at LEAST a day late, 'cuz I go the digest route. But I have to say, there is a warm, bitter-sweet feel-good as I see some of these reactions... Even Alice Faye. I've watch some movie classics and appreciated why she had her turn in the spotlight. Ella and Sarah were mentioned. I also think of so many of the great authors/composers who gave the great interpreters the material. Start with Johnny Mercer. Or Hoagy Carmichael. When you analyze the "why" of the world's reaction to Sinatra's death, versus so many others.. one place to start is life-style. None of the aforementioned were regular subjects of gossip and scandal. None had quite the pose or attitude that Sinatra had, that seemed to fascinate so many. I think these are legitimate factors in piecing together an explanation. I think they say a lot about this media-guided world! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra? Date: 20 May 1998 13:36:26 -0400 Just my perception here, but lately I feel like we're doing far too much debating over whether [fill-in-the-blank] is or isn't exotica. It's beginning to suck all of the fun out of the room, and I can't help but wonder if it might not have something to do with our dwindling traffic. People afraid of having their posts "policed"? We're never going to agree on *exactly* what the term "exotica" itself means, so why even try to administer litmus tests to artists? I think we all have a pretty good feel for the general neighborhood of where we're at. Why not just relax and not worry about it so much? We might go off the path now and then, but we'll get back to it before too long. And the change of scenery will do us good. Regarding Sinatra, I will admit that he's never quite connected for me (yet). But I *do* respect him. Anyway, I know from experience that when an artist who's really been significant to you dies, the feelings can approach those felt when you lose a relative (not immediate family). And it's helpful to talk about them. So for the people feeling that way about Sinatra, I think it's fine for them to remember him here. Just my opinions. Thanks for reading. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: (exotica) CD - Another Crazy Cocktail Party Date: 20 May 1998 10:55:07 -0700 I have a CD called "Another Crazy Cocktail Party - Shake Your Congas", on the BMG/RCA Victor label, apparently produced through BMG Ariola Belgium, 1996 and distributed through BMG USA. It's claim to fame is the song "Pancho", written by David Bowie for a 1960's European TV show (or so says a large yellow sticker on the front). It's kinda Latinesque/cha-cha stuff. I have been trying to find out about the artists on the disc (specifically, what years the songs were released), but have come up empty handed. And trying to get any info out of BMG is like pulling teeth. Does anyone know the years these songs were released, or any info on the artists? Here's the songlist: 1. Los Albinos - Bing Bang Conga 2. Ruben Calzado & Orchestra - Chiquito 3. The Golden Dream Orchestra - When the world was mine 4. Jo Carlier et Son Orchestre - Aquarella 5. Jean Claude Pelletier et Son Ochestre - Loin de mes yeux pres de mon coeur 6. Los Albinos - Go Go Conga 7. Jean Evans his piano & his strings - Blue Candlelight 8. The Boxeros - Los Patatos 9. Reg Owen & his Orchestra - Obsession 10. DeeDee & her Panchos - Pancho 11. Los Albinos - Chinese Conga 12. The Sadi Quartet - Blue Sunrise 13. The Peter Loland Orchestra - La Cucarachacha 14. Peter Krender his piano & his orchestra - Birds of paradise 15. Stan La Banm & his orchestra - A la salud 16. Los Albinos - The swinging conga 17. The Clippers - Forever 18. Willy Albimoor & his lucky 13 - Headin' north 19. Teddy Mertens his trumpet & his orchestra - Marijuana brass 20. Los Albinos - Frere Jacques conga Any information would be appreciated. Thanks. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) RE: g Owen Date: 20 May 1998 14:09:59 -0400 > 9. Reg Owen & his Orchestra - Obsession Owen's biggest hit in the US was Manhattan Spritual, ca. 1955. Was he big in the UK? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra? Date: 20 May 1998 11:34:27 +0000 > We're never going to agree on *exactly* what the term > "exotica" itself means, so why even try to administer litmus tests to > artists? Agreed. In the case of O'l Blue Eyes, I wanted to keep that thread going because I thought it was an interesting example of the type of artist that illustrates that point perfectly. (poifectly) I tend to believe this list uses the term "exotica" in the absence of a better expression. No single word is going to hit the idea squarely, so exotica will have to do. That was what I was trying to get at, and I wanted others to weigh in and see how they would describe the same idea. This was merely an excercise in semantics - not attempt to narrow the focus of these discusssions. I took pretty strong measures in my original post to try to keep that point clear. One of the most rewarding aspects of being on the list is watching threads about ...oh... let's say Serge Gainsbourg metastize into ruminations about Robert Plant and then touch on the subject of 50's space-age furniture - all without changing the subject line. Whether or not it's "exotica" means little to me, and likely little to other listers. This is an All-Star lineup of personalities on this list - just about any topic you all want to tackle will doubtless be interesting. So I hear ya. Enough already with my pedantics. Let's talk about cheesecake album covers! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra? Date: 20 May 1998 13:34:26 -0500 I'm getting a feeling (correct me if I'm wrong) that some of the anti-Frank sentiment on this list is coming more from politics rather than true talent. Both my parents and grandparents disliked Sinatra for totally non-musical reasons (which makes me kind of a blacksheep). My Grandma because of his "infidelity" and my grandpa because he stayed home while he was in Europe fighting the Jerrys. Even I was a Frank-hater in my punk teens. Some people say he was too slick. He was beyond just "slick", he was the standard everyone aspired to. Everytime I listen to him, all those stories I've heard about him being a jerk or whatever, go right out the window. I'm 28 now, and I'm so glad I had the wherewithal to come around to such great talent. Adding fuel, Jeff Hess baaaaa!!! _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: (exotica) CD - Another Crazy Cocktail Party Date: 20 May 1998 12:16:06 -0700 I have a CD called "Another Crazy Cocktail Party - Shake Your Congas", on the BMG/RCA Victor label, apparently produced through BMG Ariola Belgium, 1996 and distributed through BMG USA. It's claim to fame is the song "Pancho", written by David Bowie for a 1960's European TV show (or so says a large yellow sticker on the front). It's kinda Latinesque/cha-cha stuff. I have been trying to find out about the artists on the disc (specifically, what years the songs were released), but have come up empty handed. And trying to get any info out of BMG is like pulling teeth. Does anyone know the years these songs were released, or any info on the artists? Here's the songlist: 1. Los Albinos - Bing Bang Conga 2. Ruben Calzado & Orchestra - Chiquito 3. The Golden Dream Orchestra - When the world was mine 4. Jo Carlier et Son Orchestre - Aquarella 5. Jean Claude Pelletier et Son Ochestre - Loin de mes yeux pres de mon coeur 6. Los Albinos - Go Go Conga 7. Jean Evans his piano & his strings - Blue Candlelight 8. The Boxeros - Los Patatos 9. Reg Owen & his Orchestra - Obsession 10. DeeDee & her Panchos - Pancho 11. Los Albinos - Chinese Conga 12. The Sadi Quartet - Blue Sunrise 13. The Peter Loland Orchestra - La Cucarachacha 14. Peter Krender his piano & his orchestra - Birds of paradise 15. Stan La Banm & his orchestra - A la salud 16. Los Albinos - The swinging conga 17. The Clippers - Forever 18. Willy Albimoor & his lucky 13 - Headin' north 19. Teddy Mertens his trumpet & his orchestra - Marijuana brass 20. Los Albinos - Frere Jacques conga Any information would be appreciated. Thanks. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "VIC RUGH" Subject: (exotica) RE: Lyman, Mancin lp's Date: 20 May 1998 14:11:37 CDT "Yellow Bird" was Arthur Lyman's most popular single, and, I don't know, did the album chart? No one cut stands out in my mind, but I recall they were of the ilk some would claim IS exotica. The Mr. Lucky Goes Latin is very good Mancini. I.M.humbleO. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: whitley@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Kirsten Whitley) Subject: (exotica) Godzilla Date: 20 May 1998 15:04:30 -0500 I just saw this ad in Collectors' Choice. Can anyone comment on this CD on or any other Gozilla music/compilations? New Release: The Best of Godzilla 1954-1975 Forget that big-budget Godzilla flick -- here's the REAL stuff, 42 excerpts from those fantastic scores to the even-more-fantastic Japanese Godzilla films from the '50s througth the 70s. Which films, you ask? Godzilla, King of the Monsters; Godzilla Raids Again; King Kong vs. Godzilla; Mothra; Mothra vs. Godzilla; Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster; Invasion of the Astro Monster; Son of Godzilla; Destroy All Monsters; All Monsters Attack; Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster; Godzilla vs. Gigan; Godzilla vs. Megalon; Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla and Terror of Mechagodzilla. --Kirsten P.S. I don't know what label this is on. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: **CNM*** Subject: (exotica) Do any of you know ... Date: 21 May 1998 00:02:28 +0300 (IDT) there is a song by the dream warriors (granted, not genre related) whose title is, i think, 'my definition of a boombastic jazz style' (or something along those lines) -- anyway - they sample these great loops of swanky music and i was wondering if anyone happens to know a. what i'm talking about and b. what they are sampling. thanks courtney ^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^ courtney c/o Overseas Student Programs Ben-Gurion University of the Negev P.O. Box 653 Beer Sheva, Israel 84105 "the more i see, the less i know for sure" -- j lennon ^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vik Trola Subject: Re: (exotica) Do any of you know ... Date: 20 May 1998 17:21:40 -0500 >there is a song by the dream warriors (granted, not genre related) whose >title is, i think, 'my definition of a boombastic jazz style' (or >something along those lines) -- anyway - they sample these great loops of >swanky music and i was wondering if anyone happens to know >a. what i'm talking about >and >b. what they are sampling. a. yes b. Quincy Jones "Soul Bossa Nova" which now has the infamy of being the opening music to the dreadfully unfunny Austin Powers... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicolas Reichelt Subject: Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra? Date: 21 May 1998 00:19:46 +0200 Hess Jeffery wrote: > > I'm getting a feeling (correct me if I'm wrong) that some of the > anti-Frank sentiment on this list is coming more from politics rather > than true talent. Yes, and why not. If part of or even most of the whole Frankieboy-appeal comes from categories like slickness, coolness, or if he was the model that everybody wanted to be etc. than those political questions are rather interesting. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicolas Reichelt Subject: Re: (exotica) 3 Motor Music releases Date: 21 May 1998 00:20:10 +0200 > At 9:37 PM -0400 5/19/98, BasicHip wrote: > >Has anybody heard any of these Motor Music (Germany) releases? > > >1) Martin Bottcher -- Sound Kaleidoscope > > > >2) Gary McFarland -- Latin Lounge > > > >3) Maurice Pop -- Power Pop > I reported about two of the 3 in an earlier mail. The Gary Mc Farland is indeed great! I had 3 pieces of this on a tape that a friend gave me 4 years ago and they defined among others my understanding of this new Easy Listening Thing that was just developing. I tried to explain the impact Farland had on me, but in vain. I think he's so strange and pleasant at the same time. A def buy! Just very personal and opinionated as usual: MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicolas Reichelt Subject: Re: (exotica) SPACE ROCK KLAUS SCHULZE DIG IT Date: 21 May 1998 00:20:57 +0200 Ron Grandia wrote: > > It's German (or could you tell?) Released in 1980. Has a 23 minute track > called > Synthasy. Other songs are also brutishly long. > That's all I know about this'n. Anyone have the poop on Klaus? > Anyone? Anyone? > 1980 BRAIN RECORDS GERMAN RELEASE KLAUS SCHULZE "DIG IT" THIS LP WAS > DIGITALY RECORDED. THIS DISC HAS 4 LONG SONGS INCLUDING THE 23:10 MIN. > SYNTHASY > Read Julian Cope's Book about "Kraut Rock (One head's Guide to the Grosse Kosmische Musik)". Tells all about the whole context. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brett Leveridge Subject: (exotica) 78s Date: 20 May 1998 18:31:25 -0400 (EDT) I just came into a slew of 78s from the 1940s and early '50s. I'm pretty sure it's been addressed on the list before but I hope you'll indulge me as I ask again how best to give these discs a cleaning. I know there'll be hiss and pops no matter what but I'd like to get them as clean-sounding as possible. Anyone have expertise in this area? Brett + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + BRETTnews - The Peppy Zine for Active People! http://www.brettnews.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra? Date: 20 May 1998 18:02:52 -0500 On Thu, 21 May 1998 00:19:46 +0200 Nicolas Reichelt writes: > >Hess Jeffery wrote: >> >> I'm getting a feeling (correct me if I'm wrong) that some of the >> anti-Frank sentiment on this list is coming more from politics >rather >> than true talent. > >Yes, and why not. If part of or even most of the whole >Frankieboy-appeal comes >from categories like slickness, coolness, or if he was the model that >everybody wanted to be etc. than those political questions are rather >interesting. Good points indeed. Maybe I'm a purist, but when I evaluate an artist, the music comes first and the other stuff is merely incidental such as image, folklore, politics and such. I guess its easier to do that for a yungin' like myself who wasn't there when it was happening. I can't just say that I don't like artist/singer/whatever because of something they've done apart from the music. For lack of a better cliche', the song remains the same. Somebody shoot me!! Jeff owowowo _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Sloane Subject: Re: (exotica) fwd: Truman Show trailer music Date: 20 May 1998 16:58:03 -0500 I've seen two different TV commercials for this film (I think it's this one) wherein they've used "Vertigogo" by ComEd, and "Sentimental Journey" by Esquivel (clearly not looking