From: Subject: (exotica) Tiki Bars? Date: 01 Jul 1998 04:30:44 EDT Anyone know of a Tiki bar in their area? I publish a zine about them and am looking for submissions to our "Neighborhood Tiki" section where readers submit reviews of local flora and fauna (Please no obvious ones that we have already covered - Kahiki, Mai Kai, Trader Vic's) Aloha Otto von Stroheim Tiki News # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: (exotica) Moogtique Date: 01 Jul 1998 04:13:18 PDT Does anyone know 'Moogtique' by Klaus Schulze. It claims to be part of a soundtrack to what sounds like a 7Ts porn film. Basically, is it any good? thanks in advance rob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Brian Setzer and sick punk rockers.... Date: 01 Jul 1998 09:55:01 EDT In a message dated 98-06-30 22:05:53 EDT, you write: << Bill's Bar in Boston is pushing Br. Cleve to play swing over swank during his weekly outing. >> say it ain't so . . . bro (as in brother) robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Can't find Tiki Lites Date: 01 Jul 1998 11:42:06 -0500 At 03:09 PM 6/29/98 +0000, Ron Grandia wrote: >I can't seem to find tiki lites anywhere. Anybody know where=20 >a fellah might find some? I can't guarantee anything, but try Just Bulbs (22nd. St. & Broadway, NYC): Welcome to Just Bulbs, We offer everything in light bulbs on a world wide basis, whether it is for a home/office/factory or whether it is for a theatrical production, or whether it is for a specialized piece of equipment. CONTACT US Just Bulbs, Ltd. =A0http://www.nycbest.com/just_bulbs.htm --Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) still more swing Date: 01 Jul 1998 12:20:36 -0400 Some more thoughts about swing (and that's swing in the current mode and not the traditional definition). And just to be clear, I'm not anti-swing. I like a lot of the sources they're working from -- I guess I just tend to prefer originators to imitators. And goodness knows, I'd rather be locked in a room with a swing band than a lot of other possibilities. Anyway, I do have the feeling that swing may be rapidly displacing "lounge" as the new non-rock trend that the media writes about and the industry pushes. Partly just intuition, but to compare... I have no experience with any real world "lounge" scenes, so I have to go by this list. And besides our "hidden theme of arrangement" (I forget who here came up with that), I think the major characteristic of our collective interest is eclecticism. Which as far as I'm concerned is very, very good -- if this list had a narrower range of interest, I probably would have quickly gotten bored and bailed out. However, in marketing or trend pushing terms, "eclectic" is useless or an outright handicap. Which is probably why even with all of the media exposure, it's never quite caught on with the masses other than in a very caricatured manner. But this swing thing has a very tight focus and even features matching clothing and dances to go along with the music. Very easy for new fans to figure out how to "play along" and VERY marketing friendly. In a way, it is one lounge sub-genre split off into a single focused beam. Maybe not. Other strengths for swing: They've managed to fuse 40's and 50's nostalgia into one. That's a pretty scary achievement. And then you also have the ample supply of live bands presenting themselves in a "rock band" like manner. I do have the feeling that the major record companies are still happiest to push bands that they can put on the album / tour / album / tour cycle. It's the mode of operation they're most familiar with. So, these wishes for lounge to be "over" so we can get back to obscurity may have come to pass, whether we like it or not. The media might even portray swing as something that evolved out of lounge. And people on a Swing Mailing List can have threads complaining about distorted stories about *their* scene. The real problem is that this might mean the end of "lounge" or exotica reissues. I can't really say for sure, it's just the impressions of a civilian consumer, but I have had the feeling this year that the reissue stream has been drying up (with the exception of folks like Scamp). If lounge ceases to be a viable "trend," the majors will likely close up the carnival and move on to the next town. And we STILL don't have any Baxter album reissues, framdammit! (But I am very happy with my "Astro Sounds" reissue. That's subjectivity for ya!) Sorry to drone on. Has this whole thread become tiresome yet? m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Re: Us vs. Them -- Setzer and sick punk rockers.... Date: 01 Jul 1998 12:27:41 EDT In a message dated 98-07-01 00:09:20 EDT, Jay writes: << Why is it ok for hardcore punks to make the musical leap to lounge music but it's not ok for Brian Setzer to make the arguably much shorter leap from rockabilly (or big band music) to lounge? What's up with that? I wasn't the hugest fan of the Stray Cats...but for what it's worth, Brian Setzer was into retro looks and sounds way, way before 99-44/100 of the people on this list. I have a hunch that includes you. >> I have to agree with Jay on this one. Styles change and so do people. The list needs to lighten up on this "we were here first" mentality. In Setzer situation, one niche was being eliminated so he gravatated to a different niche. If anything, this says more that the Punk band (or member) that was so limited in his musical abilities that his career died with the Punk craze. I think the same thing can be said of someone like Linda Ronstat. Times changed and she had the expertise and talent to change with it. Hell, I laughed when I heard that Cybil Shepard (then of Moonlighting but well remembered from The Last Picture Show) announced that she would be doing some serious singing. I heard her later and was blown away. As a final example, have you ever seen Jason Alexander (of the Seinfeld show) sing and dance -- totally amazing!!!! If he came out with a loungy cut of More or Fever or whatever would we refuse to "recognize" it because he came to the scene late? I wouldn't -- I'd just be glad that there was one more option for me to choose from. Ok, that's my rant for now. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Swingtime & Village People and Beanie Babies Date: 01 Jul 1998 12:32:15 EDT In a message dated 98-07-01 00:31:27 EDT, JB writes: << Now the Beanie Baby people, THOSE are the maniacs to worry about !! I hear the Rapa Nui Beanie Baby is worth big $$$$$. JB Twist >> IF there are any Beanie Baby fans/collectors on this list: Please keep that information to yourself because I do not want consider the ramifications of a person being a fan of exotica also being a fan of beanie babies. robert P.S. I feel the same way about those "Welcome" Gooses that people put on thier kitched doors. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Sando Subject: Re: (exotica) still more swing Date: 01 Jul 1998 09:48:05 -0700 At 12:20 PM 7/1/98 -0400, m.ace wrote: >Sorry to drone on. Has this whole thread become tiresome yet? I'm sorry but that's often my cue to add something! As someone who's lived in an urban area most of my life, and maybe San Francisco is unique, but I have a feeling LA, Boston and NY might be similar, I have seen this swing thing come and go over the years about a dozen times. The local press has had countless "Swing is back!" and "Cocktails are back!" superficial articles since the early 1970s. At least here, it never really went away. In SF, there have always been a couple of hip ballroom dance halls and schools and the people who really love this music have been doing it regardless of the trends. Personally, a lot of these new bands aren't doing such a great job at recreating swing, jump, etc. and they're doing even less innovative stuff to justify their being, except maybe improved recording techniques. My pet peeve is marketing them as "martini" music. Martini is an awfully fun word to say but I think Louis Jordan probably drank gin straight out of the bottle rather than a martini. I hope Lounge becomes incorporated into Popular culture like Big Band, seing, classic vocals et al but maybe I'm being optimistic. MisterLUCKY, published by Coconut Grove Media Visit MisterLUCKY on the web: http://www.mrlucky.com PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Overflowing reissues Date: 01 Jul 1998 14:51:42 +0200 Charles Moseley wrote: >>I'm now off to William Hill (Bookmakers) to place my bets on the following >>coming out on LP by the end of '98: >> >>Hugo Montenegro's Moog Power Nat Kone replied: >I'm hoping those three, at >least, DON'T get reissued because that would totally ruin my dreams and >anticipation of someday finding the original LP's. i'm afraid this "Moog Power" will disappoint you greatly! i think it's not good enough to be reissued. it's one of the most disappointing moog lps i came accross... =C8 Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) New eXotica Releases Overview Updates (long message) Date: 01 Jul 1998 15:03:57 +0200 A new update to the eXotica Releases Overview is available. These are the most important recent additions, that where not yet announced here: - new (1998) releases & announcements - * Burt Bacharach: "Make It Easy On Yourself" CD, A&M, USA, Announced For July 7, 1998 * Burt Bacharach: "Reach Out" CD, A&M, USA, Announced For July 7, 1998 * Count Basie: "Basie Beatle Bag" CD, Verve, USA, Announced For July 21, 1998 * Willie Bobo: "Juicy" CD, Verve, USA, Announced For July 21, 1998 * Kenny Burrell: "'Round Midnight" CD, Original Jazz Classics/Fantasy, USA, Announced For July 21, 1998 * Clique: "Clique" CD, Varese Sarabande Vintage, USA, Announced For July 28, 1998 * Jack Costanzo & His Afro-Cuban Band: "Mr. Bongo" CD, GNP/Crescendo GNPD 2255, USA, 1998 * Jose Feliciano: "18 Greatest Hits" CD, Fuel 2000, USA, 1998 * Screamin' Jay Hawkins: "At Last" CD, ? 8210, ?, 1998 * Jane Mansfield: "Busts Up Las Vegas" (House Of Love; Live At The Dunes Hotel, Las Vegas) CD, Missing MISS 005 (Marginal), Belgium, 1998 * Exactly the same content as the much more expensive "Too hot to handle!" CD. See label contact address in my "Shoppinquarium" page. * Cassius Clay: "I Am The Greatest" CD, Rev-Ola (Creation), UK, Announced, 1998 * Eumir Deodato: "Os Catedraticos" LP, ? EQST806, UK, 1998 * Stan Freberg: "(Title Unknown Yet)" CD Box Set, Rhino, USA, Announced, 1998 * The James Taylor Quartet: "Blow Up! A JTQ Collection" CD, Music Club MCCD 333, UK, 1998 * Sabu: "Jazz Espanol" LP, Bootleg? A802, UK, 1998 * The Tornados: "Archive" CD, ? RLO228, USA, 1998 * Booker T. & The MGs: "Time Is Tight" Triple CD Box, Fantasy, USA, Announced, 1998 * Jim Copp & Ed Brown: "A Journey To San Francisco With The Glups" CD, Playhouse CD606, USA, 1998 * Ferrante & Teicher: "The Collection" CD, Varese Sarabande Vintage, USA, 1998 * Arthur Lyman: "Leis Of Jazz" (The Jazz Sounds Of Arthur Lyman) CD, Rykodisc RCD 50431, USA, 1998 * Gary McFarland: "Does The Sun Really Shine On The Moon" CD, DCC, USA, 1998 * New Albanian Riots: "The Cream Of The Stars" CD, Smiley Jones SJ002, USA, 1998? * Shirley Scott: "Legends Of Acid Jazz" CD, Prestige, USA, 1998 * Soundtrack: "A Fistful Of Dollars" [by Ennio Morricone] CD, Razor & Tie, USA, Announced For August 11, 1998 * Soundtrack: "Across 110th Street" [by J.J. Johnson + Bobby Womack & Peace] CD, Rykodisc RCD 10706, USA, 1998 * Soundtrack: "Diamonds Are Forever" [by John Barry] CD, ? GRU 96209, USA, 1998 * Soundtrack: "The Dynamite Brothers" [by Charles Earland] CD, Ace, UK, Announced, 1998 * Soundtrack: "The Wicker Man" [by Magnet & Paul Giovanni] CD/LP, Trunk BARKED4, UK, 1998 * Various Artists: "Legends Of The Ukelele" CD, Rhino, USA, Announced For July 28, 1998 * Sarah Vaughan: "Sings The Mancini Songbook" CD, Verve, USA, Announced For July 21, 1998 * Various Artists: "The Big Score" CD, EMI, UK, 1998? * Various Artists: "Mae Day. The Masquers Club Salutes Mae West" CD, Dionysus/Bacchus Archives, USA, 1998 * Various Artists: "Talkin' Verve: 60's Hits-Groovy" CD, Verve, USA, 1998 - old but interesting finds I stumbled on - * Jan & Dean: "Command Performance/Jan & Dean Meet Batman" CD, ? 18687, ?, 199? * Machito: "Machito At The Crescendo" CD, GNP/Crescendo GNPD 58, USA, 199? * Oyabando: "Oyabando" CD, ?, USA?, 199? * Tito Puente Band: "Puente Now!" CD, GNP/Crescendo GNPD 2048, USA, 199? * Gary Mcfarland: "America The Beautiful" CD, DCC 615, USA, 1991 * Soundtrack: "Black Caesar" [by James Brown] LP/CD, Polydor, USA, 199? * Soundtrack: "Coffy" [by Roy Ayers] LP/CD, USA, 199? LP, Polydor?, Japan, 199? * Soundtrack: "In The Heat Of The Night/They Call Me Mister Tibbs" [by Quincy Jones] CD, UA?, USA, 199? * Soundtrack: "Slaughter's Big Rip-Off" [by James Brown] LP/CD, Polydor, USA, 199? * Soundtrack: "Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song" [by Van Peebles + Earth, Wind & Fire] LP/CD, Ace SXD/CDSXE 103, UK, 199? * Soundtrack: "Three Tough Guys/Truck Turner" [by Isaac Hayes] Double CD, Ace CDSXE 2-095, UK?, 199? * Soundtrack: "Trouble Man" [by Marvin Gaye] CD, Motown 530 097, USA?, 199? * Soundtrack: "Truck Turner/Three Tough Guys" [by Isaac Hayes] Double CD, Ace CDSXE 2-095, UK?, 199? * Soundtrack: "Uptight" [by Booker T. & The M.G.'s] CD, Ace CDSXE 024, UK, 199? * The Tornados: "Telstar - Hits Of The Tornados" CD, VCI MCCD161, UK, 1994 * Various Artists: "They Came From Outer Space. The Alien Songbook" CD, Varese Sarabande VSD-5882, 1997? * Various Artists: "Blue Break Beats Volume 4" CD, Blue Note 4940270, UK, 1996 The eXotica Releases Overview is part of "Dada'quariums Exotica": http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/ Johan Dada Vis quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) This is how vol. 3 of "The Sound Gallery" might have sounded like Date: 01 Jul 1998 16:24:48 +0200 V/a: "Ready steady boogaloo! (Amphonic grooves for Carnaby chicks and cool steppers)" - cd, Summot SUMCD 4185, UK, 1998 This is maybe how volume 3 of "The Sound Gallery" might have sounded like! Eighteen excellent late sixties/early seventies production music from the Amphonic music library, founded by Syd Dale, who worked for KPM during the sixties. Contrary to the title, there's no real boogaloo here, but - quote - "hard-beating acid-pop and funky Hammond grooves". Some tracks have a touch of Latin, jazz and funk; most are of that typical British combination of sophisticated groovy Hammond + big band horns + strings here and there, with happy melodies and lush arrangements. At only GBP 5, this must be the best deal of the year! Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Can't find Tiki Lites Date: 01 Jul 1998 10:51:07 +0000 I thought I'd post this publicly as a service to all... Thanks Michele! Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 98-06-29 18:09:03 EDT, you write: > > << I can't seem to find tiki lites anywhere. Anybody know where > a fellah might find some? > >> > > They got them at the Vine party store on Melrose in L.A., at Wackos in L.A. > and at Oceanic Arts in Whittier. All stores in Los Angeles area. > > - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: (exotica) Italian Job soundtrack Date: 01 Jul 1998 10:13:30 PDT For some reason it never occurred to me that The Italian Job's soundtrack would exist in the first place - I mean on the original vinyl. Has anyone ever seen it? (I don't get out much.) I would be extremely happy to find, in either good-condition originals or reissues: the Italian Job, Bedazzled (so I can replace my tape dub), Get Carter (well, maybe just happy, since I have some of the tracks on the Sound Spectrum compilation, and except for the title track, they seem kinda iffy), and a legit Barbarella reissue (or at least a bootleg with a non-ugly cover). Jordana Robinson eero67@geocities.com www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157 Check out my Ebay auctions: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&userid=eero67 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Brian Setzer and sick punk rockers.... Date: 01 Jul 1998 14:40:46 EDT "Br. Cleve is in Europe and currently unavailable for comment" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Re: This is how vol. 3 of "The Sound Gallery" might have sounded like Date: 01 Jul 1998 14:45:18 EDT I would love to see Volume 3 of the Sound Gallery arrive---How did #'s 1 & 2 sell? Ashley? A friend described them (Sound Gallery comps) as the missing link between exotica and disco recently after I offered my opinion that disco was the (busy) easy listening of the mid to late 7T's # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) still more swing Date: 01 Jul 1998 12:49:24 -0700 At 12:20 PM 7/1/98 -0400, you wrote: > >Sorry to drone on. Has this whole thread become tiresome yet? Here's my two cents. Swing is more attractive to the youngsters that are the apple of the label conglomerate's eyes (14-18 year olds), because it's easier to dance to. I'm sure there are conversations in corporate music label boardrooms on how Brian Setzer and his ilk are going to be the rage at all the high school proms (or more likely, how they can use their influence to MAKE them so). It's doubtful these same coversations occured over exotica. I would think they had an older target audience, say, 25-40 (for example, the booze recipes in the Ultralounge volumes). That's not to say 14-18 year olds don't drink, but they usually don't take the time to make a drink recipe. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: (exotica) Can't find Tiki Lites (MORE!) Date: 01 Jul 1998 12:16:33 +0000 Should have called before I posted...Bob at Oceanic Arts in whittier, the largest supplier of Hawaiiana to the motion picture industry says that they just plain ain't around any more... there were two manufacturers: One made the tiki-mug type, the other made the Easter island type. Both are out of business. He went on to volunteer the fact that he was actively pursuing manufacturing them himself. (Now why didn't I think of that?) Seems kind a funny doesn't it? with the discussion of the explosion of Tiki culture and exotica awareness at an all-time high that these companies would call it quits..... Ron Grandia wrote: > > I thought I'd post this publicly as a service to all... > > Thanks Michele! > > Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > > > > In a message dated 98-06-29 18:09:03 EDT, you write: > > > > << I can't seem to find tiki lites anywhere. Anybody know where > > a fellah might find some? > > >> > > > > They got them at the Vine party store on Melrose in L.A., at Wackos in L.A. > > and at Oceanic Arts in Whittier. All stores in Los Angeles area. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) I Swing The Body Electric Date: 01 Jul 1998 14:47:04 -0700 (PDT) The cross fertilization of music never fails to amaze me. Disco had many songs that contained an exotic flavor to them, Fly Robin Fly or Love Love You Baby are two good examples. However a lot of disco had a more down to earth get down feel to it so for me, rythmn & blues is the grandfather of Disco and jazz is the father of exotica. A few jazz songs captured the sound of Exotica in the 70's. Mr. Gone and other Weather Report Songs caught the exotic feel. But Weather Report was a jazz band first and foremost. Then the 70's had the swing dance disco music, the best exmple of that was the disco version of In the Mood which people actually swing danced to. Electronica certainly looks to disco as its father and electronica has experimented with Exotica, Alpha's Come to Heaven is my favorite "easy" electronic band. Perhaps theres the posibility of a Swing Dance Electronica song, If it is ever released I hope the song is called I Swing the Body Electric. Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck ---DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: I would love to see Volume 3 of the Sound Gallery arrive---How did #'s 1 & 2 sell? Ashley? A friend described them (Sound Gallery comps) as the missing link between exotica and disco recently after I offered my opinion that disco was the (busy) easy listening of the mid to late 7T's _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) still more swing Date: 01 Jul 1998 18:04:18 -0400 > Sorry to drone on. Has this whole thread become tiresome yet? Just to avoid any misinterpretation, when I wrote the above, I wasn't trying to pull some "I had my say, now everyone else shut up" deal. It was just that having blathered on and on, I suddenly thought, "duh, gee, I hope everyone isn't sick of this." No agenda intended. > but I have had the feeling this year that the reissue stream has been > drying up (with the exception of folks like Scamp). Reading through Johan's new release overview, I do feel somewhat more hopeful. Does anyone have the word on that Ferrante & Teicher "Collection" on Varese Sarabande? Prepared piano material, or later stuff? Hoping the former. Thanks. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: Re: (exotica) still more swing Date: 01 Jul 1998 15:20:30 -0700 (PDT) There's a bowling alley on the second floor of an old building here in New Orleans that is still in use as a bowling alley but bands also play at the same time, Its called Rock & Bowl. Anyway my friends went there a few weeks ago and raved about all the great swing dancing going on. The said to me "Chuck you would have loved the music being that you're so into the lounge scene" Either they don't have a very good idea of exotica or they only see the trappings and not the substance of exotica. I believe in the public and the media's eyes the words swing, cocktail and lounge will be one. The movie the Swingers helped add to this perception. I don't think the media or public will use the term Exotica in connection with swing music. I think the exotica mailing list is safe from the hordes of swing dancers who are not into sophisticated sounds but are into style and sophisticated moves on the dance floor. (I don't mean to imply that all Exotica is sophisticated) Thanks m.ace for your insights, and I too am afraid swing will displace Exotica reissues. Right now a swing compilation is featured on sale in a special display a the virgin record store. Chuck ---"m.ace" wrote: > Anyway, I do have the feeling that swing may be rapidly displacing "lounge" as> the new non-rock trend that the media writes about and the industry pushes. Partly just intuition, but to compare... > >> So, these wishes for lounge to be "over" so we can get back to obscurity may have come to pass, whether we like it or not. The media might even portray swing as something that evolved out of lounge. And people on a Swing Mailing List can have threads complaining about distorted stories about *their* scene. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Overflowing reissues Date: 01 Jul 1998 18:52:34 EDT LTepedino@aol.com wrote: >>>In light of these problems I had the oppertunity to release "Astro Sounds" and I'm glad I did...<<< Me too! True, there may be many more albums people would rather have, but for those of us who are always on the lookout for something a little bizarre, a bit off the beaten path, it was quite a find. >>>(Just listen to the Drum Island album and you will hear almost a complete lift fof "Astro Sopunds" first track).<<< So what's the "Drum Island" album all about? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki Lites / swing / etc Date: 01 Jul 1998 16:44:36 +0000 > As I see all of the above mentioned things get more and more popular with a > more, erm, mainstream crowd, I'm left trying to find something that I can > love that won't be the object of the latest MTV special. A couple of months ago I posted some screed about "the unwashed masses" (my words) I think it was in response to a report about the upturn in sales of hawaiian shirts in anticipation of the trend that would likely be set by Johnny Depp's attire in "Fear and Loathing." I got personal reply reminding me that "exotica" was a phenomenon that occurred within popular culture. It was a "trend" that occurred among the unwashed masses in suburbia in the 50s. After that, I got to thinking and concluded that I was being a bit of a snob, but I still hate to see the trend develop. It's kind of bittersweet, insn't it? On the one hand, it's vindicating to find that lots of other people think the stuff you love is cool. On the other hand, it's hard to fight the feeling that something very personal is being stolen and diluted. Those involved in the pursuit of the "exotica" are generally folks steeped in irony who willfully avoid popular culture (of the present). So when we find that popular culture crashes the party, it's no longer the intimate gathering we once prized. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Russo" Subject: Re: (exotica) Italian Job soundtrack Date: 01 Jul 1998 17:09:39 -0700 >For some reason it never occurred to me that The Italian Job's >soundtrack would exist in the first place - I mean on the original >vinyl. Has anyone ever seen it? It was released by Paramount. Quincy Jones composed a lot of it. One of the tracks goes totally crazy with soccer crowd efx! Good luck wrangling one! (Any flick that stars Michael Caine, Noel Coward and Benny Hill has gotta be a classic!) C. "Ratso" Russo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Mr. Smooth Top 69--1998 Date: 01 Jul 1998 20:58:56 -0500 I agree with Nat on the exclusion of ole Horst Jankowski. I would also exclude J & D Edwards(way too self-conscious) and perhaps, on a bad day, David Rose. Absent from your list are: Chet Atkins Vincent Bell John Buzon Trio Brazil 66 Ferrante & Teicher (the pre-UA years) Kenyon Hopkins Lester Lanin Claudine Longet Gary McFarland The Mexicali Brass Korla Pandit Gabor Szabo Ruth Welcome Souds like a fun-o project! Maybe you neet to pick your top 100. Frank Next time please alphabetize! >Juan Esquivel, Enoch Light, Terry Snyder, Ferrante & Teicher, Dick Schory, >Bob Thompson, Perez Prado, Dick Hyman, Henry Mancini, Martin Denny, Bob >Rosengarden/Phil Kraus, Arthur Lyman, Lenny Dee, Dean Elliot, Eartha Kitt, >Edmundo Ros, Hal Mooney, Mike Simpson, Don Catelli, Bobby Darin, Henri >Rene, Billy Mure, Peggy Lee, Ross Bagdasarian, Charles Magnante, Xavier >Cugat, Julie London, Belmonte, The Three Suns, Si Zentner, Al Caiola, Ethel >Smith, Les Baxter, Skip Martin, Leo Diamond, Buddy Merrill, Sir Julian >Gould, Sid Bass, Leo Arnaud, Jack Marshall, Tito Puente, Joe Loco, Billy >May, Walter Kime, Don Costa, The Frankie Capp Percussion Group, Berlingeri >and his Percussive Harpsichord, The Bobby Havana Boys, Irving Joseph, Buddy >Cole, Roger Ericson, Walter Wanderly, The Baha Marimba Band, Leo Addeo, >David Carroll, Werner Muller, Mariano Merceron, Katie Lee, Manny Albam, >Earl Grant, Hugo Montenegro, Artie Kane, Danny Guglielmi, Horst Jankowski, >Buddy Morrow, Chuck Sagle, Eddy Manson, Maxwell Davis, Art Van Damme, >Ronnie Aldrich, Merlin, Stanley Black, Jonathan and Darlene Edwards (Paul >Weston and Jo Stafford!), Ray Martin, Larry Elgart, The Velvet Sounds, >Andre Popp, Vic Schoen, Marjorie Meinert, Dick Kesner, Ted Heath, The >Sauter-Finegan Orchestra, Marty Gold, Johnny Keating's Kombo, Eddie Cano, >Eddie Osborn, The Percussion All Stars, The Percussion Pop All Stars, Sid >Ramin, Russ Case, David Rose, Jerry Murad's Harmonicats, Roger King Mozian. My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk) Subject: (exotica) Claudine Longet Date: 01 Jul 1998 17:07:19 -1000 >Claudine Longet Could someone tell me a little about this person? There's a bootleg Sinatra concert where he refers to her as "one of the finest marksmen of all times" which gets huge laughs from the audience. I, of course, don't have any idea why this is supposed to be so funny. Anyone? *** *** *** Steve Funk (sfunk@pop.adn.com) Anchorage, AK USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Mr. Smooth Top 69--1998 Date: 01 Jul 1998 21:53:45 EDT In a message dated 98-07-01 20:58:28 EDT, you write: << Absent from your list are: Chet Atkins Vincent Bell John Buzon Trio >> Is there any of the John Buzon Trio out on CD other that the UL series? Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Claudine Longet Date: 01 Jul 1998 19:25:31 -0700 At 05:07 PM 7/1/98 -1000, you wrote: > > >>Claudine Longet > >Could someone tell me a little about this person? Others will know more, I'm sure. She put out several albums in the late sixties (and early seventies??), mostly light French/English pop. Three of her albums made the US Top Forty, although no singles did. She was married in the later sixties to the under-appreciated crooner Andy Williams. In the seventies (?) she was tried and convicted for fatally shooting skier Spider Sabich, and spent an unknown time in the hokey. So, speaking of Claudine: On the album "Claudine" (A&M SP 4121), she sings a duet with an uncredited male singer on "A Man and a Woman (Un Homme Et Une Femme)." Does anyone know the identity of the man singing with her on that track? Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Swing Purchases Date: 01 Jul 1998 22:28:59 EDT I was at a junk store today and I bought four volumes of "The Swing Era". Each volume has a wonderful book in it. I also bought a Benny Goodman volume, a mint copy of Rolf Harris' "Sun Arise" album and several 45s. All for a cool $10. Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: (exotica) chris montez Date: 01 Jul 1998 21:08:45 -0800 what is this guy about musically? somehow i cant score (well ...) his lp's in the bargin bins. paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: Re: (exotica) Claudine Longet Date: 01 Jul 1998 21:18:55 -0800 >I, of course, don't have any idea why this is supposed to be so funny. while she was married andy williams she shot a ski instructor guy she was having an affair with... hazy on it beyond that.. paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Klaus Schulze soundtrack Date: 02 Jul 1998 00:27:23 EST Robert McKenna writes: > Does anyone know 'Moogtique' by Klaus Schulze. It claims to be part of a > soundtrack to what sounds like a 7Ts porn film. Basically, is it any > good? What you're describing, "Moogetique" is the second volume ie. additions to the original soundtrack of the film "Body Love", by Lasse Braun with music by Klaus Schulze. I believe it was a porno film and I remember some problems with the cover art having to be replaced in some editions outside Germany. As to whether its good, I'd say if you're a KS fan, it's OK but not among his best. However if you're trying to compare it to say Perrey & Kingsley's moog sound, I think you'd be disappointed. It's still very much space music and not at all "Incredibly Strange". One soundtrack that to me seems closer to I.S. is one I originally mistook for a porno film called "Quartett im Bett" but turns out was an avant garde German film starring four sisters who appear on the cover dressed up like identical little bo-peeps (I think you can see how I made the original deduction). Someone more familiar with German films may know more about them. If you like campy German soundtracks and/or German vocal "Schlager" , this one may be for you. No moogs though... BTW, I seem to be the one that always ends up answering the KS questions on this list. Hmmm... BrianBrian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Claudine Longet Date: 02 Jul 1998 00:58:21 EDT Go here, Cuddle Up With Claudine Longet! I mentioned the Stone's song "Claudine" here a while back, and the lyrics and tons of Claudine info are now posted on this site. Have a look, I think her gravity-defying-towel photo may still be there there too. The link is available from Vik's Lounge Valet. BTW a reminder that all recent (and long-time) subscribers should go and spend some time at Vik Trola's Lounge of Self Indulgence and explore the links. Vik's has been the exotica list's Oracle of Delphi for years, providing us with the links that provide answers. JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Enter the Lalo Dragon Date: 02 Jul 1998 01:26:44 EDT While lunch hour browsing in SF's Virgin Megastore this week, I noticed a Bruce Lee movie playing on the monitors. The DJ stopped playing the latest big label new release, and i could hear the music from what i now recognized as 'Enter the Dragon". My exotica-attuned ears recognized some goooood stuff, so i high-tailed it up to the 3rd floor video section to see who did the music. I'll be damned, there was a promotion for the DVD release of Enter The Dragon, and the clerk said it was Bruce Lee's widow and John Saxon (and 2 other people i didnt recognize) sitting there signing posters or frisbees or something. I assumed the widow was the bosom-augmented blonde in the tiger skin leotard. Anyway, the music was by LALO SCHIFRIN, the snippets i heard were great, and hopefully the whole thing is as good. Time to rent the video, listen to the movie, and look for a domestic release of the OST, which of course I've only seen available as an expensive Japanese import. (Anybody else get flushed with anticipation during an old movie's opening credits waiting to see who did the music ?) JBTwist # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Enter the Lalo Dragon Date: 02 Jul 1998 09:47:18 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 07/02/98 04:47 AM cc: Yes Yes. Enter the Dragon is Top. Especially the moody 'Human Fly' - hip hop sample alert. Other Lalo lookouts: Gone with the Wave Bullitt Dirty Harry I II III (incredible, amazing, superb) Once a Thief (and other themes) Mannix Insansetez Theres a Whole Lalo Schifrin Going On Mission Impossible More Mission Impossible (Portishead sample alert) Rollercoaster Lalo is (or at least was) the boss man. Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Italian Job soundtrack Date: 02 Jul 1998 09:24:48 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 07/02/98 04:24 AM cc: The Italian Job soundtrack sells for around =A360-=A3100 here in London= (but it is hard to find). It must be due a rerelease later this year. Barbarella has been rereleased (probably promted into a speedy reissue = by the arrival of those dodgy bootlegs) I have heard that the Get Carter soundtrack is nigh on impossible to fi= nd and has been known to sell for =A31,500 (Good luck with this one). But = I have heard an unconfirmed rumour from a reliable record dealer that I am familiar with, that Get Carter will be reissued too. (Lets hope it look= s original as possible). Isn't it the worst when an old record comes out = with extra tracks, new artwork and a shit pressing with too many tracks jamm= ed onto 1 slab of vinyl? Again, Bedazzled must be due a reissue soon. Just be patient. It will c= ome along. Now, where can I find a copy of Gordons War and You Only Live Once? Anybody? Please? Help? Charlie = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki Lites / swing / etc Date: 02 Jul 1998 03:02:59 -0600 At 16:44 01/07/98 +0000, you wrote: >I got personal reply reminding me that "exotica" was a phenomenon >that occurred within popular culture. It was a "trend" that occurred >among >the unwashed masses in suburbia in the 50s. After that, I got to >thinking and concluded that I was being a bit of a snob, but I still >hate to see the trend develop. > >It's kind of bittersweet, insn't it? On the one hand, it's vindicating >to find that lots of other people think the stuff you love is cool. On >the other >hand, it's hard to fight the feeling that something very personal is >being stolen and diluted. Yes, this is always a problem. I'd always like to see good things become successful. I think most of the music I like SHOULD have mass appeal. However, what I don't like about "trends" is that this is often based on a core group pursuing something because they really like it,and the rest pursuing it because they think they should. It is "in", and they don't want to be left out. These people annoy me. Mind you, some very good artists become successful and earn a living due to these mindless followers so something good CAN come out of it. But on the whole, I'd say that "diluted" feeling comes from the fact that many people who have little interest beyond appearing to be cool start putting on the exotica coat, so to speak. However, a few good folk find out about something they maybe never had any exposure to. And that is a good thing, in my opinion. Fresh blood is what keep things LIVING! Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) chris montez Date: 02 Jul 1998 03:16:17 -0600 >what is this guy about musically? somehow i cant score (well ...) >his lp's in the bargin bins. Undoubtedly, someone else will have dates, times, places and catalogue numbers, but Chris started out as a teen idol top rock and roll singer in the early 60s. Had a huge hit with "Let's Dance", which if you don't know, believe me...you do. Very rock and roll, beachy sort of sound. He was dressed in suits. Had big chipmunk cheeks. A real cutie. Then he sort of faded away until Herb Alpert and Jerry Moss dusted him off and reinvented him as a bossa-lounge singer. These LPs are, IMHO, gold. "The More I See You" and "Call Me" turned out to be hits, if I'm not mistaken. Both are currently being used on British TV commercials (Tennents Lager/BT, respectively). As far as I know, he has 4 LPs on A&M - all mid-late 60s. "The More I see You/Call Me", "Time After Time", "Foolin' Around", and "Watch What Happens". He is the man that sounds like a woman. I know SO many people who swear that must be a woman, but he is very much a man. I think his voice has an eerie quality, that when mixed with that sweet A&M production is like some alien pop. Some people might just see him as sickly pop. He does seem to be not that easy to find in bargain bins - although I would have thought he was. "The More I see You" and "Time After Time" I see a lot more routinely than the other two. I had a nightmare time finding "Foolin", but after I found it (looked for it for 2 years), I saw another copy a week later. "Watch" I've only seen once, and I bought it. I also think it might be his best - one of those live audience type thangs with no "recorded at.." sort of credit, but the crowd claps after each song, giving it a warm feel. Mind you, I live in the UK, so I should think if you live Stateside and routinely thrift, you'd find most of these before long. I've seen "The More I See You" a few times even in the UK... Happy hunting! Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Enter the Lalo Dragon Date: 02 Jul 1998 03:25:59 -0600 >Anyway, the music was by LALO SCHIFRIN, the snippets i heard were great,= and >hopefully the whole thing is as good. Time to rent the video, listen to the >movie, and look for a domestic release of the OST, which of course I've= only >seen available as an expensive Japanese import.=20 > >(Anybody else get flushed with anticipation during an old movie's opening >credits waiting to see who did the music ?)=20 3 years ago, I rented this video as a friend of mine was over, and it was just about the only Kung Fu flick he'd never seen. Weird, I thought, as even though I was not a fan of this genre, I knew it was the grandaddy of Kung Fu flicks. We were just blown away from the first minute. Excellent flick. Excellent soundtrack. Should have known it was Lalo...this was actually the flick that made me start pursuing Schifrin.=20 The vinyl is golddust. I see it occasionally,but never very cheap. The import CD surfaced here about a year ago, but it was relatively cheap - like =A314 or something when normally Japanese CDs are about =A320. =A314 is a= normal price. I think there are actually two soundtracks - one with the grunting noises OR the vinyl OST has the grunt tracks but not the CD. I'm not sure which. Maybe someone can clarify? Anyway, the next week I went out and signed up for TaeKwon Do, and ironically, the next summer I had to miss the gig of the person I rented the video with due to a TaeKwon Do grading! But I am that board-breakin' babe! Hi-YAAA! Jill "Mingo-go" 5th Kup, Green Belt/Blue Tag # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Enter the Lalo Dragon Date: 02 Jul 1998 03:27:22 -0600 >Other Lalo lookouts: > >Gone with the Wave >Bullitt >Dirty Harry I II III (incredible, amazing, superb) YES, but you can't buy these soundtracks... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Enter the Lalo Dragon Date: 02 Jul 1998 10:38:29 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 07/02/98 05:38 AM cc: >Other Lalo lookouts: > >Gone with the Wave >Bullitt >Dirty Harry I II III (incredible, amazing, superb) YES, but you can't buy these soundtracks... Why not? I managed OK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Enter the Lalo Dragon Date: 02 Jul 1998 10:49:59 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 07/02/98 05:49 AM cc: exotica@xmission.com@internet Yo Yo Jill, Dirty Harry 45, Sudden Impact and the Best of Dirty Harry LP. Both incredible. Both rock, both display Lalo's incredible arranging skills. Both are mine. Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: [DJJimmyBee@aol.com: (exotica) Re: This is how vol. 3 of "The Sound Gallery" might have sounded like] Date: 02 Jul 1998 11:59:32 +0100 > From: > > I would love to see Volume 3 of the Sound Gallery arrive---How did #'s 1 & 2 > sell? Ashley? A friend described them (Sound Gallery comps) as the missing > link between exotica and disco recently after I offered my opinion that disco > was the (busy) easy listening of the mid to late 7T's > I think I read the figure of 65,000 sold in a Record Collector interview (I don't know whether that was just Vol. 1, or both together, just in the UK or not). I don't know why the series hasn't been continued -- there's plenty of unreleased Studio 2/KPM/MFP/Sounds Superb yet to be re-excavated, especially the earlier ones. There are several library music releases, however, including a couple of KPM ones (although I've not heard those). I like "The Sound Spectrum" as well, but it doesn't have as many standout tracks as the Gallery; "Erotica Italia" is also good, but perhaps suffers in comparison to the glut of truly magnificent Italiana on the market -- I'd take "Beat at Cinecitta" or "Sweden: Heaven and Hell" in preference. What I'd really like to see is a release of "exotic-funky lounge" music from BBC Records (all those Radio 2 albums, broadcast archives, TV themes only available on hard-to-find vinyl, etc. etc.!). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Enter the Lalo Dragon Date: 02 Jul 1998 04:59:54 -0600 At 10:49 02/07/98 +0100, you wrote: > > > > > >Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL >07/02/98 05:49 AM > > >To: Jill Mingo @ MCKINSEY >cc: exotica@xmission.com@internet >Subject: Re: (exotica) Enter the Lalo Dragon > > >Yo Yo Jill, > >Dirty Harry 45, > >Sudden Impact and the Best of Dirty Harry LP. > >Both incredible. Both rock, both display Lalo's incredible arranging >skills. Both are mine. yes, and you wrote Dirty Harry I, II, and III. None of which exist as a released OST. As for the other two, I have them also, that's how I know that you can't buy those three soundtracks as a released OST. People keep giving out misleading info on these films' soundtracks which cause unknowing punters great confusion as them aimlessly try to hunt down soundtracks which do not exist. So...as I think most of the people on this list know, "Sudden Impact and the Best of Dirty Harry" and a 7" of "Dirty Harry" are the only official releases of this music bar a few compilations that have tracks from both of these... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "keir keightley" Subject: (exotica) Swing Swan Song (Yawn)... Date: 02 Jul 1998 04:45:32 PDT Yesterday in the Tower Records in Glasgow, I saw what at first glance appeared to be a portent of pure evil: a Rhino "swing dancing" CD, with "music" by Patti Austin, Buster Poindexter, Joe Jackson, you get the picture...d-red-full... but why should I care, one way or the other? What if Linda Ronstadt's _What's New?_ or Sinead O'Connor's _Am I Not Your Girl?_ led people to Tin Pan Alley vocalists and standards and genius arrangers like Nelson Riddle or Torrie Zito or... Baxter/Esquivel/Mancini....? Is that bad? And when I espied the copyright date - 1997 (i.e. circa 1996 someone at Rhino was working on this), I realized this has all been a tempest in a teapot - who cares if those faux swingers get their music reissued, their scene profiled, their style "co-opted" (just like "us")...? We know this is all already old news, and I, for one, am getting tired of people getting all holier-than-thou about how "naive" or "soulless" or "not-really-into-it-for-the-music" they believe this scene or that sound is. Sorry, part of my interest in exotica always has and always will be tied to my belief in musical eclecticism, not snobbism or cliquism. I love seeing that Gap swing ad, just like I crank the volume for the Sprite faux-SoulBossa ad... From BossaNovaVille, Keir ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) A Good Beat and You Can Dance to It Date: 02 Jul 1998 04:48:49 [The subject line is a bit of nostalgia for those who can remember the record rating feature on "American Bandstand." About 99% of all kids who rated records said this line or some variant of it.] Over the years of slipping exotica/space age/oddball pop and jazz into the mix for parties and other social gatherings, I've noticed there are a few tunes that invariably bring out the boogie in people. A few recent notes mentioned Village People, but I'm thinking of the less well known and more truly exotica stuff. Some of the ones I've found are guaranteed to turn 'em out on the dance floor are: "Limbo Jazz" on "Coleman Hawkins Meets Duke Ellington" "Putti Putti" by Jay Epae from a European comp LP, "Rock-a-Hula-Bop" "Action Line" by Dorothy Ashby from some comp CD of Chess instrumentals "Coming Home, Baby" by Kai Winding "Pata Pata," by Miriam Makeba "Girl from Ipanema" on Martin Denny, "Hawaii a Go-Go" "The Liquidator" on Dick Hyman, "The Man from O.R.G.A.N." I'm tempted to put together a comp of nothing but killer tunes like these that will drive listeners into a non-stop dance frenzy leading into a higher level of consciousness and boogiosity. Any suggestions of other tunes from the rest of you out in exotica-land? Brad spaceagepop@earthlink.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Overflowing reissues Date: 02 Jul 1998 08:21:05 EDT In a message dated 98-07-01 18:57:46 EDT, RLott@aol.com writes: << So what's the "Drum Island" album all about? >> A very strange (but interesting) sounding duo from Scandinavia who do almost eerie sounding ambient/trip hop downtempo grooves. One of their tracks is built upon a loop of the guitar intro of Nilsson's "Everybody's Talkin'" from "Midnight Cowboy" Whil the tracks I described earlier lifts the first track from "Astro Sounds" loops a section and builds a cool bossa nova tune featuring Herb Alpert-style trumpet punctuations. Their wry sense of humor carries over into their interviews where one of the duo hid a blood tablet in his mouth and pretended to keel over dead during an interview with Muzik magazine! The actually have another side to them, going under the name Those Norwegians when the record house style tracks. Even their house tracks have a wild edge to them! Ashley Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) A Good Beat and You Can Dance to It Date: 02 Jul 1998 05:38:49 PDT Henry Mancini Combo: Tequila Dick Hyman: Washington Square Red Norvo: Evening in Azerbaijan Hugo Montenegro: MacArthur Park John Barry: Twisting with James >Any suggestions of other tunes from the rest of you out in exotica-land? Awfully, wonderfully yours, BW ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) Schifrin in my seat. Date: 02 Jul 1998 09:03:42 -0400 "Enter the Dragon" was not the first Martial Arts film that I saw, however, it was certainly popular. When I saw it, I got a free poster and comic book at the movie house in Pearl River, NY. The earliest one I recall was "Five Fingers of Death", in which the actors barely moved their lips, prompting my friend Lisa to say, "They all look like they're cold". The vinyl (which I borrowed from a library many moons ago) most certainly had the grunting. I do not know about the CD. My introduction to Schifrin was both "Mission: Impossible" (my brother's would probably be T.H.E. Cat), however, I would also recommend, if it exists, "The Brotherhood", one of my mother's faves. Brian "Too busy looking good" Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) montez Date: 02 Jul 1998 09:39:03 Pacific Daylight Time -------- >From: darren.hutton@gte.net >To: exotica@lists.xmission.com >Subject: montez >Date: July 02, 1998 > >Chris Montez, is to my opinion, Trini Lopez a few years later. Sorry if I offended anyone. > >Darren > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: RE: (exotica) Swing Swan Song (Yawn)... Date: 02 Jul 1998 09:46:02 -0500 keir keightley wrote: > Sorry, part of my interest in exotica always has and always will be tied > to my belief in musical eclecticism, not snobbism or cliquism. I love > seeing that Gap swing ad, just like I crank the volume for the Sprite > faux-SoulBossa ad... I just love the Sprite commercials featuring "Yablo, Master of the Ocarina"! Honestly, I would buy that CD if it existed... -Indy Rutks (rutks002@tc.umn.edu) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Swing to the right... Date: 02 Jul 1998 11:18:53 EDT In a message dated 98-06-30 08:36:00 EDT, LTepedino@aol.com writes: << I doubt it...the problem with the "exotica" music is that it requires both far more disciplined musicianship >> One of my main beefs! We need massive numbers of todays supposed "musicians" to actually go to school and learn how to play REAL instruments (i.e., something other than the guitar, bass or drums) before there can actually be an legitimate exotica revival. The only bands getting passed off as nuveau exoitca are nothing more than surf bands, unfortunately. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Hibarger Subject: (exotica) Tomorrow's Exotica?? Date: 02 Jul 1998 11:20:53 -0400 Anyone care to postulate what tomorrow's exotica will be? My guess is that Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, Brian Setzer, Combustible Edison and Mike Flowers will age better in a retro way than say Boys to Men, Spice Girls or Whitney Houston... However, if you take that argument back in time, to the 60's...where would that leave Dusty Springfield, Brasil '66, Pet Clark as opposed to Gene Pitney, Dean Martin, etc. It might be very interesting in 20 years if people are listening to cheesey 80's production and somehow loving it...drum sounds that we consider awful, synthesized string sections, etc. Or worse yet, 80's metal production values...cheese metal anyone? White Lion, Poison? Don't go there please... I only mention this for the fact, that there is some perspective after time... Personally, and I know there are some Mantovani and 101 Strings fans on this list...but that stuff borders more on Muzak for me...I think its more akin to what Whitney Houston does...at least for me... Now Bob Crewe Generation or Mark Wirtz Orchestra...that's stuff is groovy! Mike. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: Re: (exotica) Can't find Tiki Lites (MORE!) Date: 02 Jul 1998 11:29:16 -0400 >there were two >manufacturers: One made the tiki-mug type, the other made the Easter >island type. Both are out of business. While you are waiting for Moai party lights to go back into production, may I recommend a couple of strings of split-bamboo patio lights? They're imported from the Phillipines by Lidco and are sort of trumpet-shaped. With suitable colored bulbs I guarantee you will achieve that "Bamboo Tamboo" feeling. About eleven bucks as I recall. . . they are pretty crudely made, and I ended up having to go at the bamboo with a file to get the sockets to fit right. But so stylish. . . The box says: Lidco Company Division of SDL Seasonal Products Bohemia NY 11716 Aloha, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Tomorrow's Exotica?? Date: 02 Jul 1998 12:13:50 -0400 > Anyone care to postulate what tomorrow's exotica will be? > > I only mention this for the fact, > that there is some perspective after time... Somebody said someplace I saw that everything has to go through about 10-20 years of being totally square before it can be cool again. The list of these things is long: Mini-Skirts, bell bottoms, tie dies, platform shoes, disco in general, brylcreem, big hair. Then it is back and kinda stays there off and on, like swing has since the 70s. Right now, 80s "poser metal" is really bogus and considered very high cheese, give it like 5-10 years and it will be huge, guaranteed. BTW. I saw a red leather jacket for sale this weekend. I am preparing for the early 80s revival to start soon. Anyone still have their razor blade necklaces? Maybe I can stick a safety pin in a 90s lip piercing... surfing the chaos, looking for tiki stuff Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) "Talkin' 'Bout Tot Music" (shameless plug) Date: 02 Jul 1998 12:28:57 -0400 Freshly posted at my website (link below) is "Talkin' 'Bout Tot Music", a rambling interview with musician, Joe Jack Talcum, on the subject of kiddie records. Includes a batch of cover scans. If you're interested, I hope you enjoy it. Apologies if you're not interested. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Frankie Capp Date: 01 Jul 1998 19:51:17 +0200 >From: Byron Caloz >2012 Henry Mancini, >I am especially interested in 2012. i think it's on cd, IF it is the same record: Frankie Capp Percussion Group: "Mancini in percussion" CD, Laserlight, USA, 1996 The "eXotica Releases Overview": # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark B. Conklin" Subject: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 02 Jul 1998 11:09:42 -0600 With all of the recent [great] reissues coming out on labels like Verve, Capital, Polygram, Blue Note, BMG and others, doesn't it seem like A&M are slacking a bit? I would love to see some of Sergio Mendes, Claudine, Herb Alpert, etc. late 60s and early 70s recordings reissued. I think A&M are missing the boat. No time like right now to get these releases out. I noticed some of them were rereleased in Japan, but for all practical purposes, that doesn't really do me any good. Anyone have any info on why they aren't rereleasing these? If they are releasing these - when and what? Thanks - MC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Hibarger Subject: (exotica) cocktail jazz! Date: 02 Jul 1998 13:42:19 -0400 Lalo Schifrin also teamed up with organist Jimmy Smith for _The Cat_. Which, by the way is something good for your exotica dance comp... I would also add Lee Morgan's "Sidewinder", do these count as exotica? I guess they're more jazz...but they would most likely definitely appeal to many of the folks on this list as they are a hipster, swingier, cocktail jazz, as opposed to free jazz, jazz fusion, jazz rock, etc. I would also throw in "Bond St." by Burt Bacharach... Mike. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lloyd Kandell Subject: (exotica) Don Tiki goes online Date: 02 Jul 1998 08:44:05 -1000 Aloha y'all- Hope i'm not wearing out my lauhala mat here... just very excited that cmj online (www.cmj.com) chose us for today's review. check it out, and if it lights your tiki torch... they kick you over to cdnow.com where they have a pre-release special price of $10.99. And Michele, we ain't no surf band. Hope everyone has a great 4th! Now where was that mai tai... Fluid Floyd/Don Tiki # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: (exotica) Poptart: Tiki parties, New Wave and Sinatra Date: 02 Jul 1998 12:18:08 -0700 hi kids, well, it's thursday again, which means my weekly doodad list of things to do in the Bay Area has been updated. Luckily, there are some really good 4th of july options.... Surf Parties, Polynesian parties and more. Check it out, if you're into that sort of thing. thanks! jasmine - -- -- -- -- -- - Looking for Indiepop / Exotica / Space Bachelor shows, releases and news? Check out the Bay Area's (and beyond) weekly source: http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk) Subject: Re: (exotica) A Good Beat and You Can Dance to It Date: 02 Jul 1998 11:39:44 -1000 >I'm tempted to put together a comp of nothing but killer tunes like these >that will drive listeners into a non-stop dance frenzy leading into a >higher level of consciousness and boogiosity. > >Any suggestions of other tunes from the rest of you out in exotica-land? These come to my mind: "Congo Train" Les Baxter "The Coffee Song" Frank Sinatra (Reprise version) "Boogie Juice" The Sound Gallery "Saturday Night on Saturn" Les Baxter "It's A Lovely Day Today" Astrud Gilberto "These Boots..." Nancy S. *** *** *** Steve Funk (sfunk@pop.adn.com) Anchorage, AK USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: (exotica) book review Date: 02 Jul 1998 12:59:27 -0700 this is from today's SF Examiner: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/examiner/hotnews/stories/02/loun ge.dtl -jasmine - -- -- -- -- -- - Looking for Indiepop / Exotica / Space Bachelor shows, releases and news? Check out the Bay Area's (and beyond) weekly source: http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eb Subject: (exotica) Re: Claudine Longet Date: 02 Jul 1998 13:33:41 -0700 >From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson > >So, speaking of Claudine: On the album "Claudine" (A&M SP 4121), she sings >a duet with an uncredited male singer on "A Man and a Woman (Un Homme Et >Une Femme)." Does anyone know the identity of the man singing with her on >that track? No.... >From: > >Go here, > Cuddle Up >With Claudine Longet! > >I mentioned the Stones song "Claudine" here a while back, and the lyrics and >tons of Claudine info are now posted on this site. Have a look, I think her >gravity-defying-towel photo may still be there there too. Yeah, go there! See gravity defied at http://users.deltanet.com/~gondola/longet/weve.gatefold.html Eb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki Lites / swing / etc Date: 02 Jul 1998 16:38:52 -0400 At 03:02 AM 02/07/98 -0600, Jill Mingo wrote: >Yes, this is always a problem. I'd always like to see good things become >successful. I think most of the music I like SHOULD have mass appeal. I dream about a world where that is possible but when I wake up I realize that the two things are mutually exclusive. >However, what I don't like about "trends" is that this is often based on a >core group pursuing something because they really like it,and the rest >pursuing it because they think they should. It is "in", and they don't want >to be left out. These people annoy me. You know, I wish I could say that I always know which of those two groups I belong to but I don't think I can. I'm always asking myself "do you like this OR do you like it because it's cool?" One of the latest manifestations of that is with all this Fat Possum blues stuff like R.L.Burnside and Junior Kimbrough and now even Hasil Adkins is on the label too. But I saw a bunch of them in concert recently - including Hasil - and I THINK I genuinely like it. Still when you were once as obsessed with being cool as I think I was - except of course I never let on (because that would be the UN-coolest) - it's hard to believe you've matured enough not to care anymore. A friend of mine once said that ANY record collection, as long as it was thorough enough in its focus, would be inherently cool. Even R.E.O. Speedwagon or Pablo Cruise - were they kind of exotica??? - or god forbid, those anti-christs of rock, the Moody Blues. As long as the obsession was deep. I found that frightening but had to agree. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) A Good Beat and You Can Dance to It Date: 02 Jul 1998 16:38:47 -0400 At 04:48 AM 02/07/98, Brad Bigelow wrote: > I've noticed there are a few >tunes that invariably bring out the boogie in people. >Any suggestions of other tunes from the rest of you out in exotica-land? A friend of mine/DJ played a version one night of "I'm coming home" by Mel Torme that rocked my world. That's at the top of my list right now. I've heard that "Mr.Giant Man" by James Last from "Voodoo" is a guaranteed dance floor smash. The whole record just sounds like warmed-over Santana to me but I guess warmed-over Santana is better than warmed-over Chicago. Obviously the difference between "YMCA" and swing for instance, is that anybody can dance to it. I guess that's why they played a "hora" and the "bunny hop" at every bar mitzvah I ever went to. I guess that's why I still have a soft-spot for "the Freddy" even though you don't get to show off that knowledge anymore. One more. Roberto Delgado's surprisingly cool - for him - reggae-tinged version of "Venus". Reggae always seemed to inspire the non-dancers in my crowd. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Swing to the right ("Real" Instruments?!?) Date: 02 Jul 1998 16:41:52 -0400 > We need massive numbers of todays supposed "musicians" > to actually go to school and learn how to play REAL instruments (i.e., > something other than the guitar, bass or drums) before there can actually be > an legitimate exotica revival. It's not the instrument -- it's what you do with it that counts. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Boris Bissia Bertrand Subject: (exotica) Jean-Jaques Perrey was in Bxl Date: 03 Jul 1998 00:48:58 +0100 Jean-Jaques Perrey have a new album out on the Basenotic (french label - I guess Jack told you ) and he was playing live with the band recently in Bruxelles ( Belgium - Europe ), I had the chance to enjoy the concert and meet him in person with all is younger crew ! They were all ( Chazam and all his crew ) formidable ( it's a french word ) and Mr. Perrey is a very very kind person, very deep, serious and humorous. I was very touched by the live music and by the man plus all his team. A funny impression was that Jean-Jacques Perrey doesn't like tomatoes on pizzas. Also : Check soon the Basenotic label for upcomming new great release, a great fun ecletronika album from David Chazam. PS : David if you read this, I let you know : I love that one. Thanks a lot Mr. Perrey and you all within the crew. ======== ==== Beauty is a creation of love # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: (exotica) montez/trini Date: 02 Jul 1998 16:09:13 -0800 >Chris Montez, is to my opinion, Trini Lopez a few years later. >Sorry if I offended anyone. heya !?!! don't dis mr. trini ! i'm his numero uno fan on the planet. i talk to him on the phone occassionally... and yes had a hand in him soon coming out of retirement. sorry :) if yer not so inclined...but i love him always have for some peculiar reason. ask tosh, its true! paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 02 Jul 1998 16:19:22 -0800 i wouldn't hold your breath. with the merger of Polygram and MCA (they call it Universal, this week :) .... i doubt exhaustive exploitation of deep catalog titles is on much of anyone's minds there. fyi, A&M is part of Polygram ...particularly when it comes to 'catalog A&R" these days. mostly all these people are sitting around wondering if they will have a job next month. paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com p.s. - its Capitol Records, not CapitAL Records. paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geoff Hill Subject: (exotica) Beanies, Bird Calls, and Bongos Date: 02 Jul 1998 19:21:34 -0400 In a message dated 98-07-01 12:32:15 EDT, robert writes: > IF there are any Beanie Baby fans/collectors on this list: > Please keep that information to yourself because I do not > want consider the ramifications of a > person being a fan of exotica also being a fan of beanie babies. I'm a speculator/collector of items of pop culture that have become overvalued quickly, and enjoy the fact that I can reap profits AND pleasure (both mine and that of my customers) through attentive collecting, including exotica LPs. I've sold both to many people, generally older women buying things for their grandchildren and other relatives. They know what these kids want. You should see Freckles the leopard "lounging" in his martini glass, or spinning Martin Denny tunes sitting on the center of the turntable! Too precious for you to appreciate, I'm afraid! Hey... these displays _do_ get people in off the street. Robert, I'm sorry if realized your fear that people like me might exist. Get used to it. Curious as I am, just what ARE "the ramifications" of cross-collecting and cross interests like this? In love with beanies and their buyers, Geoff Hill "If it's too cute, it isn't cute enough!" "F*ck 'em if they can't take a joke." -anonymous # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: (exotica) Highly Strung/JB/Wrong About Boys Date: 02 Jul 1998 16:47:31 -0700 I recently picked up a Sequel sampler disc called "The Loungecore Experience", which culls two tracks off of five different compilations. Two of them I already have (20 Loungecore Favorites and Sound Spectrum), but three I don't. As the two I have contain the year and songwriter's last name for each track, I'm hoping someone might have the other three discs, and might be kind enough to forward me the year and songwriter, either on the list or e-mailed direct. Here they are: A) Highly Strung (Sequel 1013-2) 1. The Ravens - Ghoul Friend 2. Ahab and the Wailers - Neb's Tune B) Meet James Bond (Sounds Orchestral) (Sequel 1011-2) 1. Sounds Orchestral - Kissy Suzuki 2. Sounds Orchestral - Moonshot C) You Can Be Wrong About Boys, Vol. 1 (Sequel 1012-1) 1. Peanut - Thank Goodness For the Rain 2. Barbara Kay - Someone Has to Cry (Why Must I) If anyone has the dates and songwriter(s) for these, I would sure appreciate a posting or a direct e-mail. Thanks! Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) A Good Beat and You Can Dance to It Date: 02 Jul 1998 14:21:46 +0000 > I guess that's why I still have a soft-spot for "the Freddy" even though > you don't get to show off that knowledge anymore. Mark my words (Iiii'mmmm Tellllinnngg youuuu nooooowwww....Sorry, getting carried away by Freddy Mania) There WILL be a time when Freddy and the Dreamers, Hermans Hermits and whole scene will be HUGE again. Granted, it will likely be the result of some half-funny Mike Meyers movie and more likely be brief, but back it will be; and won't you look grand at the one wedding you attend that summer showing all the kiddies how to do the Hully Gully. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ray Coffey" Subject: (exotica) beanie baby Failed flame... do not reply Date: 02 Jul 1998 20:20:18 -0400 Please accept my apologies for my poorly crafted flame. The return e-mail address is valid, (hillobeanies@wildaboutbeanies.com) so reply to me, NOT the address that I faked. I'd rather they not receive any unwanted mail. I should have known better. My apologies and regrets are offered. Ray # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 02 Jul 1998 21:57:08 EDT mark said: << With all of the recent [great] reissues coming out on labels like Verve, Capital, Polygram, Blue Note, BMG and others, doesn't it seem like A&M are slacking a bit? I would love to see some of Sergio Mendes, Claudine, Herb Alpert, etc. late 60s and early 70s recordings reissued...>> *cut* paul said: <> ????? I just checked Footlight's site and came up with all of these for you. Yes, I know the Longet's are pricey, but you should be able to get started with Alpert and Mendes basics. Tower records has these too, except for the Longet's, I suppose. Just check their site or, better yet, call the 800#. Of course, my best advice is to invest in a turntable and open yourself up to the wide, wonderful world of record collecting. Then you could walk into your local Goodwill or Salvation Army and pick up all the Sergio Mendes and Herb Alpert you want in near mint condition for a buck each. If you get lucky, you'll get a Claudine, too. ALPERT, HERB & TIJUANA BRASS FOUR SIDER A&M 15.95 ALPERT, HERB & TIJUANA BRASS GREATEST HITS A&M 10.95 ALPERT, HERB & TIJUANA BRASS GREATEST HITS VOL 2 A&M 11.95 ALPERT, HERB & TIJUANA BRASS LONELY BULL A&M 11.95 ALPERT, HERB & TIJUANA BRASS WHIPPED CREAM AND OTHER DELIGHTS A&M 11.95 LONGET, CLAUDINE BEST (A&M DIGITALLY REMASTERED) A&M 30.95 LONGET, CLAUDINE CLAUDINE A&M 30.95 LONGET, CLAUDINE COLOURS A&M 31.95 LONGET, CLAUDINE LOOK OF LOVE A&M 32.95 LONGET, CLAUDINE LOVE IS BLUE A&M 30.95 MENDES, SERGIO CLASSICS VOL 18 A&M 14.95 MENDES, SERGIO CRYSTAL ILLUSIONS A&M 28.95 MENDES, SERGIO FOOL ON THE HILL REBOUND 9.95 MENDES, SERGIO GREATEST HITS A&M 11.95 MENDES, SERGIO HERB ALBERT PRESENTS...A&M 32.95 MENDES, SERGIO VERY BEST OF S.M. AND BRASIL 66 (2CD) A&M 32.95 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 02 Jul 1998 19:08:16 -0800 ><call it Universal, this week :) .... i doubt exhaustive exploitation of deep >catalog titles is on much of anyone's minds there.>> > >????? I just checked Footlight's site and came up with all of these for you. >Yes, I know the Longet's are pricey, but you should be able to get started... thx... knew of the imports (jap.) but really was referring to domestics which would put them in the price range for most mortals. also, i keep seeing lately the first three bacharach titles at tower (jap. imports). at $30 a pop, not many are going to be building collections of those. i wish. paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: (exotica) A&M stuff Date: 02 Jul 1998 21:21:13 -0500 >Then you could walk into your local Goodwill or Salvation Army and >pick up all the Sergio Mendes and Herb Alpert you want in near mint >condition for a buck each. If you get lucky,you'll get a Claudine, too. You can't swing a dead cat round' here without finding that stuff. Everytime I see one, I pick it up. How could a sweet, innocent, young maiden like Claudine ever commit such a crime. Maybe Claudine should make a comback and build a theatre in Branson next to Andy Williams....what am I thinking!!! I'll shut up now. Jeff _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M stuff Date: 02 Jul 1998 21:16:04 -0800 >You can't swing a dead cat round' here without... # hmm, we'll then i'll get my 'dead feline' and get over there ! heh hee. >Everytime I see one, I pick it up. How could a sweet, innocent, young >maiden like Claudine ever commit such a crime. Maybe Claudine should >make a comback and build a theatre in Branson next to Andy >Williams....what am I thinking!!! I'll shut up now. # maan, one of my life's goals to to get to Branson and see Andy perform. have one of those laserlight recent live cd's of him, and his voice is still 95% intact. great song selection too, for what essentially has to be family fare entertainment. paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) We're not dead yet... Date: 03 Jul 1998 03:23:49 EDT In a message dated 98-07-01 12:23:35 EDT, ecam@voicenet.com writes: << So, these wishes for lounge to be "over" so we can get back to obscurity may have come to pass, whether we like it or not. The media might even portray swing as something that evolved out of lounge. And people on a Swing Mailing List can have threads complaining about distorted stories about *their* scene. >> Hey - I'm here in the media capital L.A. and I'm telling you that are continuing to exploit it big time. Man, just look all around you - everywhere you look there's a lounge-styled billboard/advertising or something. Then you've got AMC, Nik At Nite and TV Land still trying to make a buck off it. You've got these new cigar magazines and I'm in the middle of compiling a fashion report for my next O&B column about all the exotica inspired clothing that's being marketed now to the masses - this season is bigger than ever. You should see my cool Espirit bags that look like I bought them at the swap meet. Anyway, I could go on.... I don't think we've seen the end of the exploitation bandwagon just yet. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Brian Setzer and sick punk rockers.... Date: 03 Jul 1998 03:23:44 EDT In a message dated 98-06-30 22:00:37 EDT, you write: << I don't know Michele about the hoaky part of Setzer to which you allude...I think he tears the roof off of "Town Without Pitney"..........I heard it playing at Tower one day about a year ago and was floored I stopped dead and just listened. That big band arrangement of such a priceless song struck me as brilliant. A song often has to be judged by its own merits and not lumped into a genre by the listener. >> When we saw him he'd just started with that big band thing - this was about 3 years ago and I think he's evolved it since then, but both Mike and I thought at the time that his band was really, really squaresville. Since we haven't heard him since then I've probably made a "rush to judgement" - from the looks of his album cover, it is probably a safe bet to say he's evolved his band into a lounge thing, no? - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Lounge credentials? Date: 03 Jul 1998 03:23:46 EDT In a message dated 98-07-01 00:09:20 EDT, jschwart@voicenet.com writes: <> I really don't like rockabilly and wasn't a fan of the Straycats either. Perhaps that is why I don't like Brian Setzer, but when I saw his new band 3 years ago at an open air festival, I gave it a fair shake. When he started the big band, it was just that - a big band sound. Now I haven't bothered to check him out since that initial time 3 years ago because, frankly, we thought his sound and act was a bore. Now I see he has a new album and its got tiki mugs on it. I dont know what he's done between 3 years ago and now. So perhaps it is just my perception that he is "capitlizing" on the lounge trend, but perhaps he has been a big fan of lounge all this time. Who knows? Do you? I am certainly not trying to insinuate that one must have bonafide "lounge credentials" or something. If that was my intention, I'd be a fool since I only got into "the lounge scene" in late 1995 (and then I sort of wandered around looking to meet other lounge people at gigs for a few months before I got lucky and met DJ John Godin and then Otto of Tiki News) . My Credentials: I was a big fan of musicals and old movies and American popular music in general since my childhood. In the early 90s I got big into collecting reissues of early 1920s and 1930s music. I went "punk" when I was 16 yrs. old in 1977, writing for Flipside Fanzine from about 1978 to 1984, then again writing for Flipside from about 1993 to the present. Consequently have been dressing and looking retro since 1977. No offense was meant by my post, I was only making an observation. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: Re: (exotica) Beanies, Bird Calls, and Bongos Date: 03 Jul 1998 01:02:52 -0700 This is not a flame - I think we've hit something here... >I'm a speculator/collector of items of pop culture that have become overvalued >quickly, and enjoy the fact that I can reap profits AND pleasure (both mine >and that of my customers) through attentive collecting, including exotica LPs. > I've never objected to anybody making a buck off of their knowlege and ability. The beanie baby thing bugs me though, and I'll tell you why: It's an artificial value. Remember Cabbage Patch dolls? Of course you do. You probably have at least two relatives or acquaintances who are still stuck with an attic full of these travesties. I see them at garage sales all the time. You can buy them for $5.00 or less. Beanie Babies are cute but unremarkable in every respect. My 3 year old son likes them, but I'll never pay $25.00 or more for a freaking stuffed animal the size of a Happy-Meal toy. The kids who insist on having them at any cost and the parents that comply.... Don't get me started! In fact they ARE Happy Meal toys, though I'll be Goddamned if I ever battle the throngs of ladies (the same ones Geoff speaks of so flatteringly) at Burger King to get one. I'd hang my head in shame if I let my child see me behave the way they do: Buying and discarding scores of burgers at a time just to hoard those crappy toys. (They probably won't even let the Grandkids play with 'em because they "will be worth something someday." The Ironic part is, these things will be the ONLY items from this decade that WON'T be valuable because they'll be as plentiful as Herb Alpert records. The stuff that is REALLY collectible are the items people got rid of, like those 60's era model airplanes that kids across the nation blew up with firecrackers. (You too?) I repeat, this is not a flame... I can understand and have a great respect for the desire to make hay, because the Sun is gonna shine regardless, right? About exotica records: I deal almost exclusively with people who specialize and are passionate about my areas of interest because despite their amazing expertise and deep insight, they are INVARIABLY the most reasonable. We have discussed at great length on this list the wonderful public service a knowlegeble record dealer can be. (www.vinyllives.com comes to mind) What a convenience it is to be able to turn to a dealer to obtain a mint-copy of some long-sought treasure - A convenience I gladly pay for. I do agree that exotica records are overvalued because of the recent wave of popular interest in the genre. This overvalue is also due to the reaction of "mercenary" dealers that buy according to trend and price arbitrarily high. I see dealers in my area sit on records forever rather than price them reasonably. These are the guys that watch you shop and love to tell you what a great deal the record your are holding is, and how he just sold one just like it to a guy in japan for twice as much. The nice by-product is that when the exotica market dries up and it's time to liquidate, I'll be there... ready to shop! Example: Big Al's Record Barn in Santa Clara is going out of business and EVERYTHING in the store is $5.00. Great titles too. Too bad the vinyl quality is usually shitty. Good luck with the records, Geoff. I hope we can do business. Do you send lists? Oh, and about the Beanie Babies... SELL! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki Lites / swing / etc Date: 03 Jul 1998 03:56:18 -0600 >>However, what I don't like about "trends" is that this is often based on a >>core group pursuing something because they really like it,and the rest >>pursuing it because they think they should. It is "in", and they don't want >>to be left out. These people annoy me. > >You know, I wish I could say that I always know which of those two groups I >belong to but I don't think I can. >I'm always asking myself "do you like this OR do you like it because it's >cool?" I didn't mean to imply that there were only two groups - I just meant that when things start getting some exposure, some people might grab onto them because they like them and have been exposed, others might grab onto them because its cool. Lots won't jump on the boat at all, and then there are others that actually launched the boat. Probably a few more groups out there too...or even lone yachtsmen. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) The Italian 6Ts Girly Pop tape Date: 03 Jul 1998 13:22:42 +0000 Answering to requests of several friends in the exotica mailing list, I recorded a C90 tape of italian female sixties pop. Here's the tracklisting, with brief comments on single tracks. TAPE SWAPPING IS WELCOME. Write me privately. THE ITALIAN 6TS GIRLY POP SIDE ONE: Raffaella Carra': "Tuca Tuca" (1971) Top Italian showgirl and anchor-woman (she's also big in Spain and South America), scored a massive hit with this how-to-dance-the-Tuca-Tuca song. The dance is basically a I Touch You-You Touch Me answer tune, with high erotic power! Le Gemelle Kessler: "La notte e' piccola" (1965) The Kessler twins headed from Germany, via the Paris' Lido where they permormed as "les jumelles du Lido". They have swinged their way through almost every Italian public TV show from the sixties to the seventies, and still pop up from time to time now. Nevertheless, no one has ever learned to distinct who's Ellen and who's Alice. Brenda Bis: "Per vivere insieme" (1967) Pretty decent cover of Turtles' "Happy Together" by this soul sister with great voice. On other side of this single - her only as Brenda Bis - there's her powerful version of "Hold On! I'm Coming", his time sung in English. Lalla Castellano: "Pupa Ye' Ye'" (1965) Ye' Ye' Twistin' - for all-girl early 6Ts fraternity afternoon dance party. Caterina Caselli: "Nessuno mi puo' giudicare" (1966) Classic hit. She had a strong image and the song established Caterina as a teen idol to every Italian teenager. It was first sung at the 1966 Festival di Sanremo, which is still (from 1950) the annual contest of national popular song. At the time, every song had to be sung by an Italian artist and by a foreigner (that's why we have such a large heritage of foreign artists who recorded in Italian); Gene Pitney sung the English version. Eileen: "Questi stivali sono fatti per camminare" (1966) Italian version of Nancy Sinatra's "These Boots Are Made For Walking", sung with a slight French accent by Eileen, who was actually a French singer. Words are translated literally, without much care about rhyme and tempo, and that makes it quite hilarious to listen, even for the Italian audience! Lilly Bonato: "La sfida" (1964) Not much known about Lilly, except she had a powerful voice and the tune is rockin' twangy. Petula Clark: "Ciao ciao" (1965) British Pet scored planetary hit with "Downtown". This is the Italian version, by the lady herself. La Cricca: "Ora siamo grandi" (1964) True girl group sound. Cover of Betty Everett's "It's In His Kiss" (that Italians learned through the Searchers' version as "It's In Her Kiss"). Dalida: "Bang Bang" (1967) Melancholic French chanteuse singing her Italian rendition of classic Cher ballad. She unfortunately committed suicide few years ago. Still very loved in France and Italy as well. Rita Pavone: "Il geghege'" (1966) Enfant terrible of the Italian song, Rita started her career at fifteen, and stayed at the top ever since. This song is uptempo twistin' beat: makes your ass sway. She later was to marry the big boss from her record company; same thing happened to Caterina Caselli. For all you skeptics out there: after thirty years, both couples are still getting along fine. Lola Falana: "Tutta donna" (1967) Brazilian HOT lady, who starred in few TV shows in the late sixties. She has been the obligatory first nocturnal pollution to an entire generation of youngsters. Now she has retired and is a NUN back in Brazil. Sylvie Vartan: "Zum Zum Zum" (1968) Another French lady, but singing in Italian. She also starred in some TV shows, along with R. Carra', the Kessler twins and L. Falana. She was married to French R'n'R legend Johnny Hallyday. Mina: "Ta-ra-ta-ta" (1966) Unanimously, the best ever Italian female singer. Still today, without a public appearence in the last 20 years, her records go straight to number one just as they get released. An extraordinaire voice, and a shame Whitney Houston is more famous than her. Supremes: "L'amore verra'" (1967) Yes! The original Supremes singing for the Italian market "You Can't Hurry Love". Many soul artists from Tamla Motown recorded their hits in Italian, for our listening and dancing pleasure. Margherita: "Tu sei pallido" (1964) Millie's "My Boy Lollipop" sung in Italian, cashin' in from the mid sixties Blue Beat-Rock Steady-Ska craze. Valeria Mongardini: "Asciuga asciuga" (1970) The Archies' "Sugar Sugar". Valeria had a raucous voice that reminds of Lulu's. SIDE TWO: Sandie Shaw: "Stop li' dove stai" (1968) England's Sandie took her naked feet over Italian ground. Originally penned by Chris Andrews as "Stop Before You Start". Nada: "Ma che freddo fa" (1968) Most beautiful smile among Italian girl singers. The song was to come an evergreen classic of Italian pop music. Annarita Spinaci: "Quando dico che ti amo" (1967) Easy pop composed by guaglione Tony Renis. Just like his other composition "Quando, Quando, Quando", the song met world success. Helen Sedlak: "Ridi ridi" (1966) Sexy blond stripper from Sweden, wailin' & singin' to the rhythm of legendary Sam The Sham & the Pharaohs' "Wolly Bully". Heavy Farfisa organ treatment. Caterina Caselli: "Sono bugiarda" (1966) 6Ts Riot Grrrl anthem. Neil Diamond (via the Monkees') "I'm A Believer" surprisingly translated in this Italian version as "I'm a Liar". Notable fuzz guitar solo. Claudia Mori: "Quello che ti dico" (1965) More Frat Rock stompin'. It's Little Eva's "The Locomotion" Italian rendition. Supremes: "Se il filo spezzerai" (1967) B side of that rare Diana & the Girls' Italian 45 release. Renata Pacini: "Stop, in nome dell'amore" (1966) What the Supremes didn't record in Italian themselves, has been aptly covered by local soul femmes, as in the case of "Stop, In The Name Of Love". Caterina Valente: "Meta' di me" (1965) My favorite Italian soul track. True Motown sound from a singer who has abundantly recorded in five different languages (Italian, English, French, German, Japanese), at least. I suspect it may be a over (song is penned by Coburn and Ogerman), but never was I able to track down original title and artist. Anyone? Mina: "Brava" (1965) Vocal virtuosity from the Lady of Italian song proving she's really the one! Le Gemelle Kessler: "Dadaumpa" (1962) Alice & Ellen gyrate their looooong legs over the dancefloor. Tried the Funky Chicken? Done The Dog and The Mashed Potatoes? Try shakin' your thing to the Da-Da-Um-Pa! Rita Pavone: "Datemi un martello" (1963) Trini Lopez' "If I Had A Hammer" in galloping exotic singalong style. Cilla Black: "M'innamoro" (1966) The Lennon & McCartney's song "Step Inside Love" is quite rare to find, having only being recorded by Cilla Black. Even rarer is the Italian version. Patty Pravo: "Ragazzo triste" (1966) Perhaps the most influential and idolized girl singer of Italy. Sociologists say that in the sixties Patty Pravo gave the home keys to an entire generation of teenagers. The song is cover to "But You're Mine" from Sonny & Cher, who recorded a whole bunch of songs in Italian. No wonder, 'cos Sonny was a Paisano. Evy: "L'abito non fa' il Beatnik" (1966) Stompin' electric R&B provided by deep throat Evy, honoring the genius of Steve Winwood in this version of Spencer Davis Group's "Keep On Runnin'". Les Surfs: "Meritavi molto di piu'" (1966) From Madagascar (!) headed Les Surfs, who made it to the Italian (and French) market. Cover of the McCoys' "Hang On Sloopy". Raffaella Carra': "Rumore" (1974) We finish as we started, with Raffaella Carra' and her early seventies fun-damental repertoire. This time it's a Glam Rock explosion. Don't mind the cracking of record: "rumore" means "noise", after all. Hope you dig it! Let me know. Gionni Paludi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: (exotica) Branson Date: 03 Jul 1998 10:07:38 -0500 Paul: ># maan, one of my life's goals to to get to Branson and see Andy >perform. have one of those laserlight recent live cd's of him, and his >voice is still 95% intact. great song selection too, for what >essentially has to be family fare entertainment. When I think of Branson, I think of the Homer Simpson quote, "It's like Vegas, if it were run by Flanders." I live about 4 hrs from Branson, never been there. Maybe a trip to see Andy Williams would be worth it. Jeff _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: vol. 3 of "The Sound Gallery" Date: 02 Jul 1998 19:17:45 +0200 At 14:45 -0400 98/07/01, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: >I would love to see Volume 3 of the Sound Gallery arrive according to the british "record collector" magazine, there won't ever come a third volume, at least not compiled by the guys who did vols 1 & 2. Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: (exotica) soundtrack recommendations Date: 03 Jul 1998 09:54:07 PDT Can anyone describe/recommend these three soundtracks? They're in that price level where I can't afford to just buy them and find out that they're horrible. *Emmanuelle (yes, the porn flick.) *Satans Sadists (some exploitationy-sounding thing) *Casino Royale (I'm pretty sure I should get this one) *Amore in 3 Dimensioni/Love in 4 Dimensions(composer Franco Mannino) *Lord Love a Duck (??? composer Neal Hefti) *Au Nom de Tous Les Miens (composer Maurice Jarre) Alternately, if there are cover scans of these on anyone's sites, I'd like to know. Thanks a lot, Jordana ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) A&M reissues Date: 03 Jul 1998 14:50:05 EDT Hello Mark, Mom'n dem- There's a CD re-ish called A&M 25th Anniversary Classics Volume 18/Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66-''86 that is mixed so badly you will yearn for the old vinyl copies and curse the whole concept CDs!!! Still in control of my indignance, Yours truly, Chuck Collazzi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: (exotica) DJ Bongo Boy presents *Moon Base Alpha* Date: 03 Jul 1998 20:07:59 +0000 This might be a bit late for those of you on the digest but... Former Space Safari co-pilot DJ Bongo Boy ("Hi!") makes a return to the decks tomorrow (Saturday 4th July!) night at the opening night of a new club "Radio Babylon" here in Edinburgh (UK). Venue: the Shooting Gallery, 32a Broughton Street Time: 10:30pm - 3am. Downstairs will see clubby, dancy goings-on but upstairs will see an ongoing radio-show format with a selection of DJs doing 30-minute sets throughout the night. DJ Bongo Boy will be on around 1am presenting MOON BASE ALPHA: a thirty minute hi-fi-esta into the far reaches of outer stereo... See you all there! DJ Bongo Boy ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ray Coffey" Subject: (exotica) Bruce -Little Dragon- Lee Date: 03 Jul 1998 15:46:27 -0400 Exotica in the flesh? You bet! > Bruce Lee was born in San Francisco Nov. 27, 1940. He was "manufactured" in the U.S., and unavoidably heavily influenced by his "exotic" parents Grace and Lee Hoi Chuen. Lee Hoi was apparently a famous Chinese actor on tour with a Chinese Opera troupe. > 1958 marked the year that Bruce became the cha cha champion of Hong Kong. Wow. Is this really true? I got it 2nd hand... but that source has already culled the knockoff and low-quality biographies. _Enter the Dragon_ is playing in Brookline, MA (Coolidge Corner) through Tuesday 7/7. DJJimmyB? You saw it last week at midnight, dincha? I think it's on the BIG screen now. I hope they turn up the volume. Ray # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) soundtrack recommendations Date: 03 Jul 1998 17:33:34 EDT In a message dated 7/3/98 2:10:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eero67@hotmail.com writes: > *Casino Royale (I'm pretty sure I should get this one) Get this one! It is my all time favorite comedy film soundtrack recording! You can't go wrong. Sorry, but I can't help with the others. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eb Subject: (exotica) Longet Date: 03 Jul 1998 15:32:02 -0700 >From: > >????? I just checked Footlight's site and came up with all of these for you. >Yes, I know the Longet's are pricey, but you should be able to get started >with Alpert and Mendes basics. Tower records has these too, except for the >Longet's, I suppose. > >LONGET, CLAUDINE BEST (A&M DIGITALLY REMASTERED) A&M 30.95 >LONGET, CLAUDINE CLAUDINE A&M 30.95 >LONGET, CLAUDINE COLOURS A&M 31.95 >LONGET, CLAUDINE LOOK OF LOVE A&M 32.95 >LONGET, CLAUDINE LOVE IS BLUE A&M 30.95 Currently, the best prices on Claudine CDs are at amazon.com, where the above five discs run between $17.99 and $20.99. This may be a short-lived sale, however, because I believe that Amazon's CD division is still pretty new and looking to win over new customers. Overall, I'd say don't pay over $25 for these discs, or you're spending more than necessary. And the later Longet albums (originally on Barnaby) are reissued on the Japanese Century label, but these are much harder to find. To see Amazon's Longet stock, try http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ts/artist%2Dglance/156830/m/002-6773184-225745 2 Eb All things Claudine: http://users.deltanet.com/~gondola/longet/longet.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Russo" Subject: Re: (exotica) soundtrack recommendations Date: 03 Jul 1998 15:40:48 -0700 >Can anyone describe/recommend these three soundtracks? They're in that >price level where I can't afford to just buy them and find out that >they're horrible. >*Emmanuelle (yes, the porn flick.) Schmaltzy as hell. Don't buy it! >*Satans Sadists (some exploitationy-sounding thing) Pretty lame 60s rock ST but great, cheesy low-budge biker flick! >*Lord Love a Duck (??? composer Neal Hefti) Cool pop title track by the Wild Ones. The rest is good vintage BATMAN-/ODD COUPLE-era Hefti rock. C. "Ratso" Russo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Longet Date: 03 Jul 1998 18:41:57 EDT In a message dated 7/3/98 6:32:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gondola@deltanet.com writes: > LONGET, CLAUDINE CLAUDINE A&M 30.95 > >LONGET, CLAUDINE COLOURS A&M 31.95 > >LONGET, CLAUDINE LOOK OF LOVE A&M 32.95 > >LONGET, CLAUDINE LOVE IS BLUE A&M 30.95 Before spending so much for these CD's you might want to try finding these on vinyl. I have all of these on vinyl in multiple copies. I see them all the time in the thrift stores anywhere from 50 cents to a dollar. Ofcourse, I've had to pass several trashed copies before I found some in good condition, but I did find them in good condition and it really didn't take very long. I've found several of her 45's in thrift shops also. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Re: A&M Date: 03 Jul 1998 20:22:50 EDT In a message dated 98-07-03 19:39:03 EDT, you write: > I agree, I have that disc, and it actually makes the LP's sound better. > Curse A&M! Curse 'em all!! I believe that the reason many CD reissues are so bad is that they're done by some post-teenage rock engineer (the type that takes 2 hours to get the mikes on the drums just right) whose hearing is shot, or somebody's brother-in-law. (Interesting letter-to-editor in recentGM or Discoveries from Al Kooper bemoaning this specific issue) Regards Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: A&M Date: 03 Jul 1998 17:49:17 -0700 (PDT) >I believe that the reason many CD reissues are so bad is that they're done by >some post-teenage rock engineer (the type that takes 2 hours to get the mikes whilst browing in my local cd chain store i found and bought a new factory cassette of 'whipped cream & other delights' (alpert/tjb) ... was shocked to find it in print, but was more shocked at the insanely high level of 'hiss' off of this cassette. it was like they duped it off a poorly stored 20 year old 'safety' cassette master or something. paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Byrnes Subject: (exotica) Martin Denny LPs for Sale Date: 03 Jul 1998 21:17:33 -0400 The following Martin Denny LPs are available at the noted condition and price: Forbidden Island (Liberty LST 7001 - stereo) - excellent - $15 Romantica (Liberty LRP 3207 - mono) - good - $10 A Taste of Honey (Liberty LST-7237) - good - $10 Another Taste of Honey! (Liberty LST-7277) - good - $10 Golden Greats (Liberty LST-7467) - good - $10 A Taste of India (Liberty LST-7550) - good - $10 Sayonara (Sunset SUM-1169) - excellent - $10 The Very Best of Martin Denny (United Artists UA-LA383-E) - good but lower right corner clipped / green cover with white flower - $10 From Maui with Love QV Q/V MD-408 - excellent - $20 Also: Percy Faith - Great Folk Themes (Columbia CS 8908 - stereo) - good to excellent - $10 Please send inquiries by private e-mail: kjbyrnes@erols.com Payment by money order or cash, postage extra. Thanks, Kerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Tomorrow's Exotica?? Date: 03 Jul 1998 22:23:15 EDT In a message dated 98-07-02 11:27:19 EDT: << My guess is that Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, Brian Setzer, Combustible Edison and Mike Flowers will age better in a retro way than say Boys to Men, Spice Girls or Whitney Houston... >> Not to sound crast, but tell us something we don't know ! ! ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) beanie babies -- flush the bastards ! ! ! Date: 03 Jul 1998 23:25:36 EDT << Beanie Babies are cute but unremarkable in every respect. My 3 year old son likes them, but I'll never pay $25.00 or more for a freaking stuffed animal the size of a Happy-Meal toy. >> Shouldn't this sentence read "I'll neve pay more the $ 2.50 for a freaking stuffed animal." God, I hope someone else caught this. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael D. Toth Subject: Re: (exotica) still more swing Date: 03 Jul 1998 23:34:51 -0000 "m.ace" wrote: >Anyway, I do have the feeling that swing may be rapidly displacing >"lounge" as >the new non-rock trend that the media writes about and the industry pushes. .... >So, these wishes for lounge to be "over" so we can get back to obscurity may >have come to pass, whether we like it or not. The media might even portray >swing as something that evolved out of lounge. At least around here, it seems to be a direct evolution from Space Age Bachelor Pad to Swing. The subject has been beaten to death on here that "lounge" didn't accurately describe for the uninitated just WHAT it was we were pillaging thrift store bins for. Most people's associations with the term "lounge" ARE Rat Pack crooners and "hotel orchestras" -- i.e. people seem more drawn to Rhino's COCKTAIL MIX Volume *3* than *1*. I think the earlier assessment was that it's popularity was tied into the fact that swing is easier to dance to (not to mention perform) was correct, but also, I think the Rat Pack/swing evolution is more suited to the record buying masses' palette. The masses seem more interested in *nostalgia* and revisiting things they're familiar with, while the Exotica List demographic is searching for the overlooked gem. (Just turn on any "oldies" station -- there were ZILLIONS of (often cooler) songs by the artists they play, but average people don't want to hear anything beyond the pool of 500 Billboard hits; ME, I'd rather hear the obscure B-sides and album cuts I haven't heard a billion times) For most people, Martin Denny and Enoch Light, while they were chart-toppers in their day, have become so totally marginalized and forgotten by the record buying public, there is no nostalgia or familiarity with it. I sense the folks looking for a fun night out with no serious interest in music liked the dress-up/retro aspects of "lounge" events, but the music wasn't truly retro if it wasn't part of any past they were familiar with. At least around here, it looks like Combustible Edison warmed up the crowds to be open to Royal Crown Revue. However, Ohio is so backward, that the pre-swing "lounge" hasn't fully run its course, and it's actually all sorta lumped together. The local indie chain record store I frequent even tells me those Bar-None Esquivel twofers are consistent sellers, but, as Cleve mentioned, they've been selling way below the label's expectations overall. >The real problem is that this might mean the end of "lounge" or exotica >reissues. I can't really say for sure, it's just the impressions of a >civilian >consumer, but I have had the feeling this year that the reissue stream has >been >drying up (with the exception of folks like Scamp). If lounge ceases to be a >viable "trend," the majors will likely close up the carnival and move on >to the next town. "Lounge" is gasping it's last breaths of life from what I can see. The first sign of doom was when I discovered those RCA History of Space Age Pop CDs were pulled out of print a while back. (aside from used or unreturned-new stock in a store, you can only get them through BMG's CD Club's leftover stock any more) The majors (with the exception of Capitol) didn't seem to have too much faith in its viability before, so it's REALLY grim now. It looks like further reissues from major label vaults are already pretty much impossibilities. The only thing I could see that could change all this is if the buzz around Esquivel that jump-started this whole thing 4 years ago gets reignited when that John Leguizamo Esquivel movie gets released (whenever that is). For the few folks on this list who don't already have a turntable: the way things look, vintage vinyl is about to be your only source for acquiring new music in the genre. Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Happy Birthday to me Date: 03 Jul 1998 23:45:13 EDT Yes, it is my birthday in two weeks and today I treated myself to an LP that I had a crack at for the first time since I began collecting music of the "incredibly strange" variety. In fact, i had my first exposure to it when i heard it on one of the CD's of the same title. Never had a chance at it until yesterday when a copy went up for sale at one of the many web sites i regulary check for a number of titles. Near mint cover and vinyl, absolutely beeeeee-yooooooo-teeeeeee-ful. I had to sit down from the rush as I forked over the cash. I paid more for it than my sealed Bozo Under The Sea. But I did not mind, because as a record collector, I appreciate the fact that sometimes you just shut up and pay. And now it is mine, all mine. And I am happy. Kali Bahlu takes the forest children on a journey of COSMIC REMEMBRANCE !!!! thanks for letting me beat my chest and happy birthday to the rest of you moon babies. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Happy Birthday to me Date: 03 Jul 1998 20:25:13 +0000 At 11:45 PM 7/3/98 EDT, it was written: >today I treated myself to an LP... >i had my first exposure to it when i heard it... >Never had a chance at it... >I paid more for it... >And now it is mine... Well, congratulations. But what is IT? Was it buried somewhere in your message? Signed... Not a good detective, Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Us vs. Them -- Setzer and sick punk rockers.... Date: 04 Jul 1998 01:20:34 EDT In a message dated 98-07-01 12:29:52 EDT, Rcbrooksod@aol.com writes: << I have to agree with Jay on this one. Styles change and so do people. The list needs to lighten up on this "we were here first" mentality. In Setzer situation, one niche was being eliminated so he gravatated to a different niche. If anything, this says more that the Punk band (or member) that was so limited in his musical abilities that his career died with the Punk craze. >> We are assuming that he is now doing lounge music? No one has clarified if he is still doing swing or is now doing lounge - would someone on this list be kind to fill us in? My comments were based on the premise that here is this swing band guy and why is he using tikis on his album covers? It is like "the Camel Page" here in L.A. that appears in the L.A. Weekly. Camels cigarettes has a "Camel Page" with is all tiki/lounge styled and basically give nightclub recommendations. What does Camel cigarettes have to do with lounge? Nothing. They are just using the tikis/lounge "siginfiers" to cash in on the lounge cache. That is basically where I was coming from. If Setzer has undergone a musical conversion from swing to lounge, then the tikis are appropriate. But to put tikis on an album cover when the music contained therein has nothing whatsoever to do with exotica - then one must ask, "what are the meaning of the tikis?" Isn't he then just using it as a marketing gimmick and it is misleading to those who may buy the album? - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) The intellectual fashion zombies Date: 04 Jul 1998 01:20:38 EDT In a message dated 98-07-01 19:48:51 EDT, rgrandia@earthlink.net writes: << It's kind of bittersweet, insn't it? On the one hand, it's vindicating to find that lots of other people think the stuff you love is cool. On the other hand, it's hard to fight the feeling that something very personal is being stolen and diluted. Those involved in the pursuit of the "exotica" are generally folks steeped in irony who willfully avoid popular culture (of the present). So when we find that popular culture crashes the party, it's no longer the intimate gathering we once prized. >> Robert Sloane's lounge thesis touches on this idea - i.e., that lounge (like punk) is a subculture and when it gets co-opted by the masses, yes, it is kind of hard on those who feel it was a private party that just got crashed. But as someone on the list recently said, it is bound to happen sooner or later. But even though there's all this Hawaiian style fashions in the stores - for the most part the masses are buying this stuff without any idea that there was a concept (i.e., that it came from the influence of exotica/lounge) behind it. All they know is that they should be buying Hawaiian shirts this season. So in a way, the party is not over because these people will walk around like intellectual fashion zombies wearing Hawaiian shirts. How can you feel threatened by that? Next year they will all be wearing the next latest fad. On another note, I am always amazed just how many men, who obviously are out of it when it comes to fashion trends, are wearing Hawaiian shirts. It is just amazing that there are so many men with these fashion stand-bys in their closet. Its like they don't know what to wear so they drag out the Hawaiian shirt. It just cracks me up. Furthermore in my other post about the surf shops??? The surf subculture/industry is well aware of where this Hawaiian trend is coming from. Both surf shops I visited had exotica displays. Huntington Surf Shop had carved tikis, puffer fish lamp and real vintage mugs on display and Jack's Surfboards had a tiki bar and Bali Hai tiki mug in their window. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Andy and Claudine Date: 04 Jul 1998 01:20:41 EDT In a message dated 98-07-02 22:31:10 EDT, grinderman@juno.com writes: << You can't swing a dead cat round' here without finding that stuff. Everytime I see one, I pick it up. How could a sweet, innocent, young maiden like Claudine ever commit such a crime. Maybe Claudine should make a comback and build a theatre in Branson next to Andy Williams....what am I thinking!!! I'll shut up now. >> I asked some older people who were around back then about the Claudine and Andy Williams scandal. From what they told me Andy was totally scandalized by Claudine's affair and crime and slipped away quietly. So did he just disappear? Was he still doing his Xmas specials, minus Claudine? What ever happened to either of them? - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Tiki Lites at the Vine Party Store Date: 04 Jul 1998 01:20:39 EDT In a message dated 98-07-02 11:37:33 EDT, rotohut@ic.net writes: << While you are waiting for Moai party lights to go back into production, may I recommend a couple of strings of split-bamboo patio lights? They're imported from the Phillipines by Lidco and are sort of trumpet-shaped. With suitable colored bulbs I guarantee you will achieve that "Bamboo Tamboo" feeling. >> These lights are also available at Vine Party store on Melrose in Los Angeles. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Hawaiian fashions for the masses Date: 04 Jul 1998 01:20:36 EDT In a message dated 98-07-01 19:48:51 EDT, you write: << I think it was in response to a report about the upturn in sales of hawaiian shirts in anticipation of the trend that would likely be set by Johnny Depp's attire in "Fear and Loathing." I got personal reply reminding me that "exotica" was a phenomenon that occurred within popular culture. It was a "trend" that occurred among the unwashed masses in suburbia in the 50s. After that, I got to thinking and concluded that I was being a bit of a snob, but I still hate to see the trend develop. >> Hey, I've been happily watching this clothing trend develop over the last 2 years. Now as any mall shopper knows, you can buy all kinds of generic Hawaiian shirts at the big dept.stores. But the best stuff is actually in the surf shops. Labels like O'Neal, Tavarua, Redsand, Quicksilver and Local Motion are making the killer patterns - some of these (I forget which brand) actually look like they've been washed a million times so the buyer can look like he is wearing a vintage Hawaiian shirt that he bought in a thrift store, when in reality it is brand new. Most of the brands are going for that 1970s look or what is easily described as the "Hawaiian Punch" look - those really bright patterns where they almost don't even resemble flowers but more like swirls. I got a killer orange shirt by Hawaiian Island Creations that has very cool tiki mug drinks, martinis, even coconuts with straws hanging out on it. Check it out bro, Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 04 Jul 1998 02:00:19 EDT In a message dated 98-07-02 19:18:44 EDT, mighty65@pacbell.net writes: << wouldn't hold your breath. with the merger of Polygram and MCA (they call it Universal, this week :) .... i doubt exhaustive exploitation of deep catalog titles is on much of anyone's minds there. fyi, A&M is part of Polygram ...particularly when it comes to 'catalog A&R" these days. mostly all these people are sitting around wondering if they will have a job next month. >> Also Herb Alpert is currently in a lawsuit with Polygram over apprantly underpaid A&M royalties (more reason not to hold your breath!) Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Us vs. Them -- Setzer and sick punk rockers.... Date: 04 Jul 1998 08:53:49 EDT In a message dated 98-07-04 01:20:34 EDT, Micheleflp writes: << But to put tikis on an album cover when the music contained therein has nothing whatsoever to do with exotica - then one must ask, "what are the meaning of the tikis?" Isn't he then just using it as a marketing gimmick and it is misleading to those who may buy the album? >> my comment was more along the lines that if a performer (in this case Setzer) has real talent he can chnage with the times and adapt his musical "format" with the (dare I say it) trends. setzer went from rockabilly (and dare i say this -- a relatively easy format) to more difficult composure like "bib band" or "swing" or what ever you want to call it. because of his "talent" and diversity of such he has moved into other areas. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Andy and Claudine Date: 04 Jul 1998 11:19:02 EDT In a message dated 98-07-04 01:22:49 EDT, you write: << I asked some older people who were around back then about the Claudine and Andy Williams scandal. From what they told me Andy was totally scandalized by Claudine's affair and crime and slipped away quietly. So did he just disappear? Was he still doing his Xmas specials, minus Claudine? What ever happened to either of them? >> While listening to a Claudine LP last night I was channel surfing and saw Andy Williams being interviewed in some info-special about Branson on the Family Channel. He talked about bringing his style of music to the country fans, and then they showed the Moon River theater. He's putting "new" songs in his act for the younger set, like "Desperado," and there were clips from his show with Japanese Taiko drummers and people in Kabuki masks !!!!!!! Andy wore his trademark sweater for the interview, canary yellow this time. Then they dragged out Bobby Vinton, the Polish Prince, who has the Blue Velvet theater in Branson. He lip-synced "There, I've Said It Again" and sat down for an interview by some woman and the King of Jesus-smugness Pat Robertson (retch). I was ready to scream when the conversation took the inevitable direction, attributing Bobby's hits to the candles he lit for a saint in St. Patrick's Cathedral. Both men had excellent face-lifts, and Bobby's hair was colored with Just For Men's Reagan-Red. I love Las Vegas but Branson looked damn spooky. And remember, Andy gave America the Osmonds....... JB "B is for Branson" Twist # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Rolf Harris Date: 04 Jul 1998 12:31:54 EDT In a message dated 7/3/98 7:33:28 PM, mtoth@neo.lrun.com writes: <> That expresses exactly what happened to me this past week. I saw an album at a junk store "I'm talking REAL junk" by Rolf Harris. I recall his big hit, "Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport". The name of the album was "Sun Arise". I had completely forgotten that that was his attempt at a follow-up hit. I'd MUCH rather be reminded of hits or semi-hits that I may have forgotten than the same old same old. Um....does anyone else remember "Sun Arise"? Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Sando Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Us vs. Them -- Setzer and sick punk Date: 04 Jul 1998 09:31:34 -0700 If Setzer is so good, why has no one on this list purchased the album? No one has answered Michele's question about the meaning of the tikis on the album over. Is it the music inside or weird marketing? > >In a message dated 98-07-04 01:20:34 EDT, Micheleflp writes: > ><< But to put tikis on an album cover when the music contained therein has >nothing whatsoever to do with exotica - then one must ask, "what are the >meaning of the tikis?" Isn't he then just using it as a marketing gimmick and >it is misleading to those who may buy the album? >> > >my comment was more along the lines that if a performer (in this case Setzer) >has real talent he can chnage with the times and adapt his musical "format" >with the (dare I say it) trends. > >setzer went from rockabilly (and dare i say this -- a relatively easy format) >to more difficult composure like "bib band" or "swing" or what ever you want >to call it. because of his "talent" and diversity of such he has moved into >other areas. MisterLUCKY, published by Coconut Grove Media Visit MisterLUCKY on the web: http://www.mrlucky.com PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: "Enter the Dragon" grunting Date: 04 Jul 1998 16:24:59 +0200 my (Japanese) CD copy of "Enter the Dragon" doesn't have grunting, booohooo ;-( Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Highly Strung/JB Date: 04 Jul 1998 16:30:53 +0200 LeAnn & Dave Davidson wanted the year and songwriter, of: >A) Highly Strung (Sequel 1013-2) >1. The Ravens - Ghoul Friend ### 1961, turvey-payne >2. Ahab and the Wailers - Neb's Tune ### 1963, geller-steele > >B) Meet James Bond (Sounds Orchestral) (Sequel 1011-2) >1. Sounds Orchestral - Kissy Suzuki ### denis farnon (no rec year mentioned) >2. Sounds Orchestral - Moonshot ### john pearson (no rec year mentioned) Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sevo Stille Subject: (exotica) Todays scores Date: 04 Jul 1998 19:18:59 +0200 Some more obscure records among todays scores: Beat 69 by "John Deen and the Trakk", Europa E351. This one is a discovery. Quite good psychedelic stuff - according to the liner notes, produced in Hamburg, Germany (not that I'd trust Europa liner notes - it may well be something licensed from elsewhere). Europa/Miller International is better known for nearly monopolizing on German childrens records throughout most of the 70's and releasing exotica exploitation and sometimes incredibly strange cover version samplers (often Damil/Alshire/Somerset stuff). Beating the Beat by the "Pop Spots", Weltmelodie 025. Cover version psych, but far from being up to the above. The versions of See, See Rider and John Browns Body are among the worst I've ever heard. Pop Corn, MFP STEREO 5660. Mid seventies moog record. Starts out with a particularily insane version of Popcorn credited to Talmadge, Jordan, Jerome. Other tracks: Beautiful Sunday, Coconut, Sweetly And Slowly, Taka Takata, Cheval, Son Of My Father, Listening to Mozart, Song Sung Blue, Chorus and What's Your Name. No artist mentioned - might be a mixed no-original-artists sampler, but going by the credits of most "original" compositions on the record it probably was done by Dan Lacksmann of Flamenco Moog fame. Song Sung Blue sounds absolutely like Sir Christopher Scott, while some other tracks are closer to Perrey/Kingsley. Solid Gold 20 great chart hits by Sound Sensation Vol. 3. Another one to my ever-growing collection of cover version samplers. Not outstanding, mainly worth mention because it contains the first Kraftwerk (the Model) cover I've ever come across on a low-budget sampler. Top of the pops Vol 79, by "The Top of the Poppers", Hallmark SHM3034. Overall rather mediocre cover version sampler - by the early eighties the Top of the Poppers appearantly had finally picked up some musical skills (I'd give their early stuff a very high trash ranking). The the Jam, UB40 and Madness covers are pretty strange, however. Sevo -- Sevo Stille sevo@inm.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) Todays scores Date: 04 Jul 1998 11:22:05 PDT Hi all Joe E. Ross -"Love songs from a cop" Roulette SR 25281 Joe played officer Toody in "Car 54, where are you", a tv-serie probably not shown around here. Recognize this record from either a website or a book. Glad to find it in Sweden, but it was not as "bad" as i had imagined. Fun anyway. I like the title. NM condition Andrew Rudin -"Tragoedia" Nonesuch H-71198 A composition in four movements for electronic music synthesizer made in 67-68 on instruments designed by Bob Moog. Needs several more listenings but seems like a nice record. NM condition Hey, there are gems in Rättvik, Dalarna, Sweden too! Vinyl is sexy Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Emmanuelle ST Date: 04 Jul 1998 14:39:23 EDT The title tune (which plays incessantly in the flick) is so awful and annoying (one of those horrible little corny melodies that sticks in your craw despite all attempts to suppress/forget it) that my suggestion would be to avoid it at any cost. Tonally yours, Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Re: "Enter the Dragon" grunting Date: 04 Jul 1998 14:53:10 EDT >>>my (Japanese) CD copy of "Enter the Dragon" doesn't have grunting, booohooo ;-( <<< You can find Lalo Schifrin's "ETD" theme - grunts included - on "This Is the Return of Cult Fiction: 36 Cult Classic Film & TV Themes" (Virgin UK, 1996). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Andy & Claudine misc. Date: 04 Jul 1998 14:59:43 EDT I was Andy's guitar player for many years in those days, & have photos in my personal collection of them (she's 9 months pregnant with their first of 3 kids) cavorting around Lake Mead on Caesars Palace's yacht. They were absolutely the most down-to-earth couple you could imagine. Andy once invited us (the traveling side-men) to hear Sinatra on his closing night and they sat there in the elegant showroom drinking Coors right out of the bottle. She was one of the sexiest women I'd ever met--when she talked to you it was like she was totally involved with you, as if you were the only man in the universe (it's kinda hard to explain)-with her seductive speaking voice and those eyes -what a package!! We were working at Harrah's Tahoe one time around Xmas-NewYrs when she had a skiing accident--she ran into someone on the slopes and broke her nose....I thought she was accident-prone, maybe, but certainly not a murderer. Andy was very supportive during her trial, even though as I recall they had divorced long before the Spider Savitch incident. BTW, Andy just couldn't get a hit in the 70's, and he tried like hell & spent a lot of money on hot producers, hot session players, all to no avail. But a great singer nonetheless, a terrific guy, and a fabulous sense of humor who loved to "hang out". (His buddies in Vegas were Bill Dana and Jerry Vale--I believe the tallest of the 3 was Bill at about 5'5"--we used to call them the "midgets") Cheers Chuck Collazzi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Andy & Claudine misc. Date: 04 Jul 1998 14:26:17 -0700 At 02:59 PM 7/4/98 EDT, Chuck Collazzi wrote: > >I was Andy's guitar player for many years in those days, & have photos in my >personal collection of them (she's 9 months pregnant with their first of 3 >kids) cavorting around Lake Mead on Caesars Palace's yacht. I remember in the early-to-mid seventies, two youngsters who had a rather unsuccessful attempt at the bubblegum/teen idol scene, whose names were "Andy and David Williams." I always thought these were his sons, but now I'm not so sure. Anyone know? Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Yost" Subject: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 04 Jul 1998 18:50:06 PDT I'm sort of curious what autographed records people have found through = casual means (i.e. came upon them in a place where they were not set asid= e as "collectable" items, or were found among the piles of other LPs at = a flea market or thrift store; not bought from a savvy dealer). I've found a few things (though nothing truly great) over the past few = years. The first was an autographed Liberace record (which also had insi= de the jacket a ticket stub and a newpaper review of the concert). That = was in a thrift store. I found in a record store an autographed record = by guitarist Al Caiola for 50 cents. He wrote some inscription about the= nice time he had in New Mexico (I lived there myself when I bought this,= so I consider this LP to be one of my few momentos of that part of the = country). Finally, I found in another thrift store an autographed Lenny = Dee record a while back, from the latter part of his career. The music = is none too good; I think there's a Kenny Rogers tune on the LP. None of those three are artists I would consider "great," but I do think = an autograph adds a nice touch to the record, and even with those people = I'm sort of surprised no one else came along first and grabbed them for = 50 cents or a dollar each to resell, perhaps in an antique mall setting = or something. Anyone else have similar stories? Or found an autographed LP by someone = more, shall we say, "collectable" (Denny, Esquivel, Enoch, what have you.= ..)? -- Brad Yost # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Happy Birthday to me Date: 04 Jul 1998 21:54:31 EDT << Well, congratulations. But what is IT? >> It's the album that "A Cosmic Telephone Call", found on one of the Incredibly Strange Music CD's comes from. for those of you not familiar with this truly bizzare hippie journey of philosophy, here is a write-up I clipped from WMFU. As happy as I am to have this, i certainly would not recommend it and most will probably hate it. Kali Bahlu "Kali Bahlu Takes the Forest Children on a Journey of Cosmic Remembrance", (World Pacific Records) Kenny G. sez: No, folks, it doesn't get stranger than this. Cosmic rants, drug-soaked tirades, washed-up sitars, out of tune congas, and the whiniest, most annoying high-pitched voice to ever grace a slab 'o vinyl. Rumor has it that Balu is living in NJ and is currently a reborn Christian. There is NOTHING like it (thankfully). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Us vs. Them -- Setzer and sick punk rockers.... Date: 04 Jul 1998 22:37:59 EDT In a message dated 98-07-04 12:38:08 EDT, you write: << If Setzer is so good, why has no one on this list purchased the album? No one has answered Michele's question about the meaning of the tikis on the album over. Is it the music inside or weird marketing? >> i never said setzer was, in your words "so good". i haven't purchased a single Rap album but that does not mean they are not selling a lot of them. in other words, the Rappers have filled their niche. if setzer's work was bad the industry types probably would not have allowed him to make the album. michele's comment was more along the lines of tiki exploitation of a non- exotica album -- again, this says nothing about setzer's ability to adapt. ok, take this for an example, think of a popular band from ten years or so ago -- "Men at Work", "Devo", "Blondie" -- pretty popular in their time. am i am saying is that the driving force of the "Stray Cats" was able to change his format and has avoided being a has-been. adaptation and exploitation of a new niche when one's niche is irradicated it the key to survival -- darwin. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 04 Jul 1998 22:40:37 -0400 (EDT) At 06:50 PM 7/4/98 PDT, B.Yost wrote: >I'm sort of curious what autographed records people have found through casual means (i.e. came upon them in a place where they were not set aside as "collectable" items, or were found among the piles of other LPs at a flea market or thrift store; not bought from a savvy dealer). >-- Brad Yost This won't mean anything to anyone who isn't a Liberian or listener to Irwin Chusid's Incorrect Music Show on WFMU, but my prized autographed LP (found at a Brooklyn schoolyard flea market) is a copy of Congresswoman Malinda Jackson Parker's Tubman Goodtype Songs of Liberia! You have no idea what this disc means to me!! -Cud'n Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) "Talkin' 'Bout Tot Music"/collectables Date: 04 Jul 1998 22:40:40 -0400 (EDT) >From: "m.ace" >Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:28:57 -0400 >Freshly posted at my website (link below) is "Talkin' 'Bout Tot Music", a >rambling interview with musician, Joe Jack Talcum, on the subject of kiddie >records. Includes a batch of cover scans. If you're interested, I hope you >enjoy it. Apologies if you're not interested. Great scans along with a great interview! My collecting interests include cowboy music and kiddie records (what's that line about the past being another country -- that brings it into Exotica for me). Has anyone seen copies of the MGM Stereo Motion series? They're sub-titled "Great Children's Stories Told With Sound And Movement." Sorta Stereo Action for tots, and all the background music is by Billy Mure! Staying within collectables for kids, let me put in a good word for Beanie Babies. The brilliance of this item is the low cost to enter -- if you buy current models they only cost ~US$5. The collecting gene has been passed down to my 7 year old daughter, and with beanies she has learned to maintain her own mania, has learned about speculator markets, supply and demand, the value of a buck, and how to haggle with dealers. We managed to get 2 Princesses for $5 each - she kept one and traded in the other for 2 retired ones she really wanted. I stood back and watched her work out the deal all on her own. She did fine (after I warned her *not* to mention how much we paid for the Princess originally). And there's lots of exotic reptile and crustacian models - they ain't all mammals. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Emmanuelle ST Date: 04 Jul 1998 22:41:15 EDT In a message dated 98-07-04 14:41:38 EDT, you write: << The title tune (which plays incessantly in the flick) is so awful and annoying (one of those horrible little corny melodies that sticks in your craw despite all attempts to suppress/forget it) that my suggestion would be to avoid it at any cost. Tonally yours, Chuck >> God this was an awful tune that i can still hear in my head today. and the flicks nbever were that sensual to start with. plus, emmanuelle kept changing all the time -- there was one where they actually said she had plastic surgery to alter her idenity -- shees -- give me a break robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) This is who deserves MusicHound Lounge Date: 04 Jul 1998 22:47:26 -0400 (EDT) From the latest e-pulse: >epulse 4.26 [battery] >--- CONTENTS / July 3, 1998 >LAST WEEK'S CONTEST: Our congratulations to Michael Minnig of >ncal.kaiperm.org, who won a copy of 'MusicHound Lounge (Visible Ink Press, >590 pages). > The 'MusicHound Lounge' book says her name was Zoila Emperatriz >Charrari del Castillo, but no one answered with that one. Numerous gave us >the commonly held answer: Amy Camus. The question was: What was the real >name of Yma Sumac, she of the multiple octaves? [!] >^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ no comment... -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, July 5 Date: 04 Jul 1998 22:47:23 -0400 "Space Bop" can be heard every Sunday at 4pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and is hosted by Brian and Cheryl. Space Bop features music ranging from Space-Age Bachelor Pad to Space The Final Frontier! Comments & questions welcome. July 5 - Space Bop Goes Jazz (in our own special way...) Our twisted tribute to the Montreal Jazz Festival! Pigbag: Papa's Got A Brand New Pigbag "Papa's Got A Brand New Pigbag" Werner Muller & His Orchestra: Bali Ha'i "Hawaiian Swing" Sergio Mendes & Brasil 66: Mas Que Nada "Cocktail Mix Vol.2 - Martini Madness" Manfred Krug: Wenn der Urlaub kommt "Get Easy Vol. 4 - Germany" Louis Armstrong: Mack The Knife "Mack The Knife" Deep Turtle: Jeriko Jr. "Dumb Striking Incidents" Trudy Pitts: Take Five "Cocktail Mix Vol. 2 - Martini Madness" Amon Tobin: Bridge "Permutation" John Lurie: Shark Drive "Fishing With John" Renaldo And The Loaf: Gone To Gondwana "Olleh Olleh Rotcod" Les Associaux Associes: D'ici a La "Ramasse-Miettes Nucleaire" Comelade, Bastien, Berrocal, Leibzeit: Woolloomooloo Bay "Oblique Sessions" Evan Lurie: Tarantella "Selling Water By The Side Of The River" Lars Hollmer: Cirkus 2 "Andetag" Catalogue: Khomeiny-Twist #2 "Penetration" cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Emmanuelle ST Date: 04 Jul 1998 22:49:40 EDT In a message dated 98-07-04 22:43:28 EDT, you write: << The title tune (which plays incessantly in the flick) is so awful >> do you think the running gag on Seinfeld about Rochelle, Rochelle - a young girls strange exotic journy form Milan to Minsk had illusions to Emmanuelle? Just a thought robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) What's this doing here? Date: 04 Jul 1998 23:07:28 -0400 I have garage-sale fantasies but I don't think I've ever really scored at one or not in nearly the quantity that I know others have. Maybe I have ten records or so in the accumulation that came from a garage sale. I bought more but I'm talking about keepers. I think it has to do with my laziness, my inability to wake up most days and the fact that my immediate neighbourhood is just the wrong place. I keep thinking "go to the suburbs!" but that would require getting in the car on a nice day and I guess I don't want it that badly. Or I prefer my fantasies. In any case, this morning I was determined to go to one garage sale around the corner because it actually said "records" on the sign. I think I was the first one there, probably because it had just been raining. And there was ONE HALF-box of records on the porch. The Lovin Spoonful's first album... okay. Not what I'm looking for but why not? A Buddy Holly double best of... okay. Also not what I'm looking for but I like Buddy and I don't have any. A couple of Glenn Miller tribute records... Hmmm... Closer to what I want but no thanks. Still.. strange juxtaposition. Gives me hope. Kinda Kinks.. do I have this already? Pretty good shape. Take it. A few more rock records. Sting or some such crap. Hope dashing. Philip Glass - the Photographer. Let's give Phil a chance. Seen it a million times but maybe today's the day to try it. A record by Albert Hammond. Hesitate over this one. Not something you see in EVERY box... Pass. Byrds "Fifth Dimension". Great record. I already have it but for some reason I have to take it. (Should I have left it for someone?) A couple more rock records. Dick Hyman MOOG!. "What's this doing here?" I have a copy now but I do remember when I never thought I'd find it at less than collector's prices. I can't leave it there. I can sell it, trade it, give it away to a lucky soul one day. And maybe it's in better shape than my other copy. (It is..) A few more records left in the stack. More mediocre rock. Last record in the stack: "Music to read James Bond by" Gold covered babe on the cover, reading a James Bond book with the rest of the bibliography scattered around her. Artists listed: Ferrante and Teicher, Al Caiola, John Barry, Perez Prado (!!), Leroy Holmes. It's hard for me to figure out what the point of this record is. I'm most excited by the presence of Perez Prado, obviously and not listed on the front: Sir Julian! The liner notes say that the music is either actually from the films or inspired by them. Prado does "Goldfinger" kind of okay. Sir J. does one of the "inspired by" cuts - or so I surmise - a tune called "Black on Pink" written by Leroy Holmes. I hope someone is jealous of me finding this record because I never score like some of the "thrift store finds" reports I read here. I have managed to accumulate a fair bit of this stuff but I almost never score more than one cool thing at any given time. I never come home with seven or eight records worth mentioning here. And even though I'd say half my "exotica etc" came from thrift stores, the other half I paid 5,6,7 dollars for. I hope someone is jealous but the truth is the Bond record is more cool to own than cool to listen to. There's a Leroy Holmes tune, done Dixieland by someone called the Leasebreakers that could induce catatonia if I ever have to hear it again. A friend of mine got 450 records one recent garage sale weekend and I know he wouldn't have bought just anything... even though I don't share his taste for Matching Mole and Blodwyn Pig. But he lives in the burbs and does it systematically. Someday I'll score. Someday... But the truth is that finding something "cool" - which often means "uncool" - in a box of the usual suspects is the best part. And asking yourself that unanswerable question "What's this doing here?" Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Cartwright" Subject: (exotica) Please take me off the god damn list. Date: 04 Jul 1998 20:40:30 PDT SELF EXPLANATORY. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gregg Wolfe Subject: (exotica) Swanktown Radio in Minneapolis Date: 04 Jul 1998 23:31:38 -0500 (CDT) Hello, My name is Gregg Wolfe and I have started a new radio show in Minneapolis, MN. It is called Swanktown and will be on a FM radio station here on Saturday nights. The swank logo was created by the GOD of swank in Minneapolis, King Kini! The show will feature swing, lounge, exotica, etc. I am looking for people who would like to make a one hour guest appearance on the show. I would prefer to get shows on DAT or CD if possible, but would try to burn your casette tape to CD and see how it sounds. In return, I would be glad to send a CD of any of the shows I have created. The reason for DAT or CD is that the radio station will not play casette tapes. You can see and listen to the first four shows with Real Audio: http://www.visi.com/~gwolfe/swanktown.shtml Please e-mail me at gwolfe@yuck.net if you are interested and thank you for your time! -- Gregg Wolfe gwolfe@yuck.net http://www.visi.com/~gwolfe # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Indulis R Rutks Subject: Re: (exotica) Swanktown Radio in Minneapolis Date: 05 Jul 1998 00:05:44 -0500 (CDT) On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Gregg Wolfe wrote: > > Hello, > > My name is Gregg Wolfe and I have started a new radio show in Minneapolis, MN. > It is called Swanktown and will be on a FM radio station here on Saturday > nights. The swank logo was created by the GOD of swank in Minneapolis, King > Kini! The show will feature swing, lounge, exotica, etc. For those of us in the greater Twin Cities metropolitan area... Which station? What time? I'd guess KFAI... -Indy Rutks (rutks002@tc.umn.edu) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: Re: (exotica) soundtrack recommendations Date: 04 Jul 1998 07:58:39 PDT Thanks for the recommendations, everybody. I'm going to get Lord Love a Duck and Casino Royale, I think. Jordana Robinson eero67@geocities.com www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 04 Jul 1998 21:42:17 +0000 At 06:50 PM 7/4/98 PDT, B. Yost wrote: >I'm sort of curious what autographed records people have found through casual means.... Once I found a Leonard Bernstein album autographed by someone whose scrawl looked roughly like Leonard Bernstein, but it was hard to tell. Anyway, I'm hanging onto it. One day I'll discover it was written by some joker to impress his girlfriend or something and NOT by Lennie. I have run across assorted albums by local performers released on very independent labels. However, I don't buy because I'm not interested in the music. My preference is to get autographs personally from the musicians...that's when the album becomes most valuable to me (but probably to no one else). However, if I found an album by a musician I enjoy and it was signed with a personal note to the former owner, that would be fun. At least more fun that an album autographed by the former owner (and how many times have we seen that?). However, even those ownership clues are interesting. I have bunches of records that came from the same owner. In the weird path of auctions and thrift stores, I manage to share the same tastes with some other person... and I am the next in line to enjoy the music they first obtained. When I look at auction lists that say WOC (writing on cover), it doesn't bother me in the least. Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Happy Birthday to me Date: 04 Jul 1998 21:44:08 +0000 At 09:54 PM 7/4/98 EDT, you wrote: >It's the album that "A Cosmic Telephone Call", found on one of the Incredibly >Strange Music CD's comes from. >Kali Bahlu "Kali Bahlu Takes the Forest Children on a Journey of Cosmic >Remembrance", (World Pacific Records) So cool! This was played on THE VERY FIRST Mr. Smooth Hour and I got many positive comments. The woman's voice sounds like the same I hear in a couple of cuts in La Dolce Henke, but it can't be...the female cast members are all named and none of them are Kali Bahlu. Of course, one of the advantages of "A Cosmic Telephone Call," beyond its strangeness, is that it is MUCH longer than the average 3 minute selection. It must be around 10 minutes...which gives radio producer at least a minute to breathe normally and organize the rest of the show! Anyway, have fun with your find! Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 04 Jul 1998 22:59:50 -0700 At 06:50 PM 7/4/98 PDT, you wrote: > >I'm sort of curious what autographed records people have found... I have an autographed copy of a Starland Vocal Band album, signed by all four members, featuring their hit song "Afternoon Delight." As I'm also a collector and fan of 60s/70s schmaltz-pop (for lack of a better term), I consider it a treasure. Picked it up at a flea market for a buck, near mint. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Horst Jankowski R.I.P. Date: 05 Jul 1998 12:51:39 +0000 Another one handed over the spoon: A few days ago Horst "Hotte" Jankowski died at the age of 62. Born 30 January 1936, Berlin, Germany At his best, Horst Jankowski is a strange blend of Ray Conniff's vocal arrangements, Bert Kaempfert's Teutonic hooks, and Esquivel's playfulness. Trained as a classical concert pianist at the Berlin Music Conservatory, Jankowski switched to jazz early on, leading a small combo in German clubs. He conducted the pit band that accompanied singer Caterina Valente, then moved into writing and performing production music for a German version of Muzak. Eventually, his catchy pieces began to attract attention on their own, and Jankowski won a multi-album recording contract. Like Kaempfert, he was a prolific composer of original instrumentals, and his "Schwarzwaldfahrt", better known as "A Walk in the Black Forest" is as much a sound of the 1960s as Herb Alpert's "Tijuana Taxi". Compare Jankowski's male-female dialogue version of "Nola" with Esquivel's "Mucha Muchacha". Recordings The Genius of Jankowski, Mercury SR-60993 More Genius of Jankowski, Mercury SR-61054 Still More Genius of Jankowski, Mercury SR-61076 So, What's New?, Mercury SR-61093 Baby, But Grand!, Mercury SR-21106 And We Got Love, Mercury SR-61160 Piano Affairs, SR-61195 Jankowski Plays Jankowski, Mercury SR-61219 Enjoy Jankowski, Mercury/Wing SRW-16385 With Love, Mercury SR-61125 A Walk in the Evergreens, Mercury SR-61232 http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/jankowsk.htm MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) klaus schulze soundtrack Date: 05 Jul 1998 12:52:35 +0000 Brian Karasick wrote: > BTW, I seem to be the one that always ends up answering the Klaus Schulze > questions on this list. Hmmm... > That's probably because you like him so much, Brian! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Kontiki III - the museum expedition, Part 1 Date: 05 Jul 1998 12:54:33 +0000 When making holiday plans for the summer the prospect of visiting the Kontiki Museum in Oslo, Norway, became a major factor for Katja and me. So instead of visiting Thor Heyerdahl on his self-chosen home island Teneriffa of the ever-spring-climated Canarians, we decided to spend a few weeks in Scandinavia. As it happened I had to go to Kobnhavn, the Danish capital, anyway, because I had to flank Andreas Dorau (the German Chris Montez) on a gig which took place on the 13th of June in a club within the Tivoli-areal. Tivoli? Yes, THE Tivoli, an amusementpark from the 19th century, rebuilt in the 50s, that once had impressed Walt Disney so much that it had given the role-model for his Disneyland. Could a Danish roller-coaster-cotton-candy-ghost-train-park come up to the expectations of the probably 3rd-biggest Disneyland-fan in the world? It could, and more than that! I was deeply moved by the sheer beauty of the fancy garden architecture and neatly styled images, ornaments, fountains and lamps of the 50s and 60s all over the place. The Tivoli is smaller, older, less sensational, but lacks the synthetic feeling that usually crawls under your skin in Disneyland. The Tivoli has beautiful little streets with real bars where real alkohol is served and adults have real fun. Everything seems more self-made in a sympathetic way, more European and I liked it. Not to mention the food that is served in the elegant restaurants everywhere. Actually slight doubts about the value of Americanism arose in my mind. I almost cried when seeing a REAL duck breeding peacefully in one of the decorative bush/lamp-arrangements around the big lake in the center of the park. Although the Tivoli, Kobnhavn has no Tiki-Room to offer it is a strange exotic and highly psychedelia-compatible place. No wonder it is so popular. This was the last sunny day during our journey for quite a while and we soon would learn the true meaning of KLFs song "It's grim up north". Our next destination was Stockholm, the capital of Sweden. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) Enter Lee Perry Date: 05 Jul 1998 12:14:37 +0200 On a related Martial Arts discussion note, one of my recent Lee Perry buys has been the CD of The Mighy Upsetter - Kung Fu meets The Dragon. Apparently recorded around 1975 it features Upsetter music which more belong to his early seventies riddims (as to be found on a number of albums on Trojan) than to his genius mid-seventies stuff. The CD is a strange mixture of simple instrumentals, a few vocal ones (Linvall Thompson's "Kung Fu Man") and straightfoward dubs (like a cut on Prince Jazzbo's "Natty Pass Through Rome") with the usual charade of Perry sounds now in martial arts style (a good example being "Flames of the Dragon") thrown in for good measure. Anyway, not that special but I just like the whole concept of the album with all the titles (Black Belt, Iron Fist, Heart of the Dragon etc.) in martial arts style. Any more martial arts songs out there? Arjan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) What exactly is a beanie baby? Date: 05 Jul 1998 12:38:17 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 07/05/98 07:38 AM cc: Sorry to be so ignorant but I am not from the same corner of the globe as some of you and I have no clue as to what a beanie baby is. Could somebody assist me in seeing the light please? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Please take me off the god damn list. Date: 05 Jul 1998 10:42:13 EDT In a message dated 98-07-04 23:42:35 EDT, "blackisthecoffin" writes: << SELF EXPLANATORY. >> being an optometrist, maybe i should offer my services to this visually challanged exotica-misdirect. or at least supply a suggestion: "open your freaking eyes - type like mad - and go away!" robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed LPs "Delight" Date: 05 Jul 1998 10:47:54 EDT In a message dated 98-07-05 01:50:13 EDT, you write: << I have an autographed copy of a Starland Vocal Band album, signed by all four members, featuring their hit song "Afternoon Delight." >> when this song was popular (about 1977 or 78 ???) we happened to stop in some old country store on a trip and there was this girl there with (as me medical types call) pendulous breast. addtionally, she was a well fed individual. she had on a tight fitting t-shirt that said "Afternoon Delight" right across her chest. We laughed for hours and that image (either fortunately or unfortunately) is burned on my retinas to this day. not really music related but i though the list members would enjoy a story from my youth. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 05 Jul 1998 11:58:20 EDT I recently picked up one of those 78 book of records from the movie "The Pirate" with Gene Kelly, which was autographed to a girl named Kathryn, 1947, Gene Kelly. Very cool. I'm assuming it's legit. Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrell Brogdon Subject: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 05 Jul 1998 11:13:44 +0000 Interesting thread! I've picked up a few autographed LPs over the years. My prize is an autographed copy of Jack Costanzo's "Naked City", one of my all-time favorite records. It says "To Leo and Marie, hope you enjoy this album. Jack Costanzo." Also have Robert Conrad's autograph on the soundtrack from "Hawaiian Eye" ("To Joyce, best wishes. Robert Conrad"). The record's a cool mix of private eye jazz and exotica conducted by Warren Barker, plus some vocal tracks by Robert Conrad and Connie Stevens. If you've never heard this one, seek it out! Like a lot of us, I also have an autographed LP by Korla Pandit. I hear these aren't all that rare - I run across them all the time. He must have writer's cramp by now! Darrell Brogdon Program Director KANU Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 dbrogdon@ukans.edu http://www.ukans.edu/~kanu-fm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) TV notes Date: 05 Jul 1998 12:22:30 -0400 Airing on TV this week in the US (eastern daylight times): Monday - 4:00pm - AMC - "A Touch Of Evil" (1958). Don't need to say much about this one, right? Orson Welles on his game. Mancini Latin-flavored score. EARLY Thursday morning - 4:15am - TNT - "Karate Killers" (1965). A Man From U.N.C.L.E. feature derived from the series, or something like that. Supposed to include Joan Crawford as a guest star. Later Thursday - 5:00pm, 11:00pm - Bravo - "Mickey One" (1965). Warren Beatty in Arthur Penn's New Wavey (film definition) tale of a standup comic on the lam. Score by Eddie Sauter, featuring Stan Getz. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) "Talkin' 'Bout Tot Music"/collectables Date: 05 Jul 1998 12:30:55 -0400 > From: Lou Smith > Subject: (exotica) "Talkin' 'Bout Tot Music"/collectables > > >From: "m.ace" > >Freshly posted at my website (link below) is "Talkin' 'Bout Tot Music", a > >rambling interview with musician, Joe Jack Talcum, on the subject of kiddie > >records. Includes a batch of cover scans. If you're interested, I hope you > > Great scans along with a great interview! Thanks very much! > Has anyone seen > copies of the MGM Stereo Motion series? They're sub-titled "Great Children's > Stories Told With Sound And Movement." Sorta Stereo Action for tots, and all > the background music is by Billy Mure! Haven't heard of them, but I'm easily stumped. I'll forward this to Joe. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Tivoli Date: 05 Jul 1998 12:39:35 -0400 For those of us who can't make the trip, the Tivoli park can be seen in the rubber monster movie, "Reptilicus" (1962). In the middle of the action, the human principals take a break from the laboratory to go off for an evening out at Tivoli. Blatant padding of the running time, but it's a nice little tour regardless. It's been airing fairly regularly on AMC the last few months. Looking forward to Part 2 of the expedition story. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pea Hicks Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 05 Jul 1998 09:44:41 -0700 i seem to have a perverse (?) attraction to those kind of home-grown limited pressing releases that are so often autographed. it's usually autographed to a friend or family member, and there's often a little note like "thanks for being there for me" or something like that. i always have to wonder "gee, what a great friend this person turned out to be!!" I play keyboards from time to time for a sort of folk-singer friend of mine named Cindy Lee Berryhill. One time in san francisco i found an autographed copy of her first album for like $2.00. so i gave it to her as a gift!!! she was kind of bummed about that!!!! ;) similarly, i pretty much like *anything* of a very personal nature that you find in thrift stores. one time i found a whole collection of some woman's scrap books, and after looking through them i felt like i had known her all my life. it really makes me wonder how these things end up in thrift stores. i always get the feeling that the person went through some kind of cataclysm or something....... pea # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) mike nichols and elaine may purchased! Date: 05 Jul 1998 13:15:14 EDT Thanks to all who filled me in on this pair. Every response recommended them highly and I did pick up "Improvisations To Music" which is just great! Pianist Marty Rubenstein plays varied sorts of music that suggests different moods and Nichols and May spontaneously create a scene to fit. One real standout for me is track 8, "Chopin", in which Nichols plays the daddy and May his little girl (natch). Very creepy, haunting, disturbing piece. But others are on the lighter side. Wonderful stuff for sure and priced right, too. Gonna get the doctor one next. Also, thanks to someone on this list who planted the seed of Sonny Lester in my mind, I found an LP by his orchestra and chorus. "How To Belly Dance For Your Husband" is a beautiful mix of exotic jazz and mysterious wordless vocals. Picked up the George Cates "Polynesian Percussion" LP which I was very pleased with. Straight ahead and very good exotica, heavy on the percussion with more background vocalese. Very nice. Finally, check the jazz section for Gary McFarland's "Soft Samba" on Verve which has some really sweet, beautiful covers of Beatles hits. Whistling, humming, vibes and guitar work by Jobim and Burrell. A number of selections appear on the fine "Latin Lounge" CD. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 05 Jul 1998 13:24:37 -0500 > Then you could walk into your >local Goodwill or Salvation Army and pick up all the Sergio Mendes and Herb >Alpert you want in near mint condition for a buck each. If you get lucky, >you'll get a Claudine, too. Please,please do! We should all boycott places like Footlights that charge absurd amount of money for the easiest to find albums. Or at least trade amoung ourselves for those of us who need these albums. Presently I have Claudine's Love is Blue that I'll trade. On principle, I think I would refuse to by a desired LP if it was priced higher than ten or fifteen bucks. Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) The intellectual fashion zombies Date: 05 Jul 1998 13:24:41 -0500 >Those involved in the pursuit of the "exotica" > are generally folks steeped in irony who willfully avoid popular culture > (of the present). So when we find that popular culture crashes the > party, it's no longer the intimate gathering we once prized. Yes, I agree,but at the same time I have the satisfaction knowing that those co-opting party crashers simply don't "get it". Call me elitist, and you'll have to call the party crashers clueless. Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Claudine Longet Date: 05 Jul 1998 13:24:38 -0500 If you want the best source on finding out about the Claudine trial for the Spider killing, check out an article by Susan Braudy which came out in Crawdaddy (of all places) February 1978. You could most likely get it through inter-library loan. The article is aptly titled "I,Claudine". Some tid-bits: Andy actually testified in her defense as a character witness. Claudine was convicted for "criminally negligent homocide" and spent 30 days in a very comfortable local jail. Shortly thereafter she went to Mexico with her defense lawyer(who later left his wife to move in with Claudine). It was alledged that Claudine had for a long time kept a diary with some comprimising statements about several of Claudine's jet-set celebrity friends. The whole article is a real treat, check it out. Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki Lites / swing / etc Date: 05 Jul 1998 13:24:43 -0500 > >A friend of mine once said that ANY record collection, as long as it was >thorough enough in its focus, would be inherently cool. Obsession=cool=trendsetter Dabbler=ordinary=dupe(trend follower) Tangentially related: When asked "What kind of music do you like?" those who reply: "I like all kinds of music" are inherently un-cool. Am I too mean? Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Lounge forever Date: 05 Jul 1998 13:24:46 -0500 > >>Anyway, I do have the feeling that swing may be rapidly displacing >>"lounge" Nothing will *replace* lounge. Lounge is lounge period! My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) What exactly is a beanie baby? Date: 05 Jul 1998 13:23:05 -0400 (EDT) At 12:38 PM 7/5/98 +0100, Charles wrote: >Sorry to be so ignorant but I am not from the same corner of the globe as >some of you and I have no clue as to what a beanie baby is. Could somebody >assist me in seeing the light please? As with most things these days a quick trip to a search engine'll get you all the info you need and more. Start with a look at the official BB page: -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Horst Jankowski R.I.P. Date: 05 Jul 1998 22:19:10 +0000 Indulis R Rutks wrote: > > On Sun, 5 Jul 1998, Moritz R wrote: > > > > > Another one handed over the spoon: > > I thought this was only a Latvian euphemism! My parents use this phrase > often. Actually, the Latvian version translates to "He/she put down the > spoon". I actually translated a German expression literally into English. "Put down" even sounds better! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 05 Jul 1998 16:25:47 EDT I found a Hank Mancini autograph on the back cover of his LP Best Of Volume 2. It reads: To Ziggy-- Warmest thanks for all of your kindness--Henry Mancini. I paid $2 for it...... jayson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: (exotica) Please er, ug, um, remove err... me? Date: 05 Jul 1998 22:09:23 +0000 Brian Cartwright got out his biggest crayon and wrote: > Subject: (exotica) Please take me off the god damn list. Please read the "god damn" instructions which come at the foot of EVERY post to the mailing list, dolt. Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: (exotica) Moon Base Alpha playlist Date: 05 Jul 1998 22:09:22 +0000 Here is what I played for my first "Moon Base Alpha" set at the opening night of Radio Babylon here in Edinburgh on Saturday night. Owing to drink-hazed memory, the order of tracks towards the end is not necessarily exact! Korla Pandit - Kumar ("Odyssey") Three Suns - Fever ("Fever and Smoke") Bad Examples - Song Electrique ("the river the night the moon temptation and you") Family of God - Why Go Go UP There? ("Family of God") The Lonesome Organist - My First Piano ("Collector of Cactus Echo Bags") Henry Mancini - Experiment in Terror ("Ultimate Collection" comp) George Shearing - Aquarius (Mood Mosaic comp) Edmundo Ros - Light My Fire ("In Flight Entertainment" comp) Prez Prado - Mambo #8 ("The King of Mambo" comp) Cal Tjader - Hot Sake ("Several Shades of Jade") Dick Hyman - Goldfinger ("Keyboard Kaleidoscope") Doc Severinsen - Summertime ("Live!") Shirley Bassey - Spinning Wheel ("Something") Three Suns - Caravan ("Movin and Groovin") Radio Babylon returns on 1 August... DJ Bongo Boy ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) It's TIME Date: 05 Jul 1998 14:37:41 +0000 Found two TIME LPs today...about the only records I did find (although I decided to try out some Claudine Longet albums). One was called The Era of Cleopatra and was performed by Richard Hayman and Orchestra (TIME S 2080). I have run across a number of Cleopatra themed LPs in the past (and bought most of them). This was a standard orchestral go-around, like every Hayman LP I ever found. Two questions: has anyone ever found a Hayman that was interesting? and what is your favorite Cleopatra themed LP? (mine, so far, is Jose Jimenez's followed by Al Caiola). The other LP I was glad to find. Percussion on Stage is performed by Maury Laws and Orchestra (TIME S 2027) This is one of the better Broadway oriented LPs I have found. Wouldn't you know it...because Phil Kraus and Bob Rosengarden are doing percussion! What are your favorite broadway-themed genre records? Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eb Subject: (exotica) Re: autographs Date: 05 Jul 1998 15:41:29 -0700 >At 06:50 PM 7/4/98 PDT, B.Yost wrote: >>I'm sort of curious what autographed records people have found through >casual means I was once at a Rhino Records parking-lot sale in Santa Monica, and a guy next to me started whooping because he found an autographed *Buffalo Springfield* LP tossed in with the other 25-cent rubbish. Wow! The only catch: no record inside. But who cares?? Eb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) It's TIME Date: 05 Jul 1998 15:55:20 PDT Byron asked: has anyone >ever found a Hayman that was interesting? Not only interesting but great! "The genuine electric latin love machine" is one of the better moog lps i have come across. And his spooky "Voodoo" album! Like wow! Unfortunately its not in my collection yet. Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: (exotica) You can never have too much Dick... Date: 06 Jul 1998 01:02:42 +0000 Dick Hyman's making another of his regular visits to the town where I live... He's playing a number of gigs (including 3 on one day!), mostly in a trio format, as part of the International Edinburgh Jazz and Blues Festival. Here are some details culled from the official website (http://www.jazzmusic.co.uk/): GALA CONCERT sponsored by Bank of Scotland Wednesday 5th August, 7.30pm - 10.45pm 16, 14, 12.50 and 10 UKP Dick Hyman Trio, Ethel Caffie-Austin Gospel Singers, International All-Stars, Humphrey Lyttelton & his band, King's Theatre, Edinburgh CELEBRITY GREATS FROM THE STATES Thursday 6th August 1998 12 UKP Joe Temperley + Howard Alden Quartet 7.30pm - 8.30pm Dick Hyman, Bob Haggart + The Bob Barnard Quartet 8.40pm - 9.40pm Stacey Kent, Howard Alden, Jake Hanna Quartet 9.50pm - 10.50pm Dick Hyman, Joe Temperley, Bob Haggart, Bob Barnard, Jake Hanna 11pm -Midnight ACKER BILK Friday 7th August 1998 12 UKP Acker Bilk's Paramount Jazz Band, Dick Hyman Trio, Cotton Club, Edinburgh Acker Bilk 7.30 - 8.30pm Dick Hyman Trio 8.45 - 9.45pm Acker Bilk 9.50 - 10.45pm LATE NIGHT JAZZ CLUB Friday 7th August 1998, 10.30pm - 1.30am 7 UKP Alex Shaw Trio, Dick Hyman Trio, Caledonian Hotel, Edinburgh PIANORAMA Friday 7th August 1998, 3pm - 5.15pm 5 UKP Renaud Patigny, Tom Finlay, Colin Wood, Brian Kellock, Dick Hyman, Cotton Club, Edinburgh Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Kiddies, Klaus Schulze and Disneyland! Date: 05 Jul 1998 23:31:40 EST Lou Smith writes: > ...My collecting interests include > cowboy music and kiddie records Speaking of... Raymond Scott's "Music for Babies" reissues (of course another Irwin Chusid production) are really incredible, as exotica. Outside of that, two other recommendations... first the Elemental Ralph label. IF you know Ralph Records (The Residents) you can only imagine this "Ralph for Kids" label. One comp. called "Goobers" is by far the best. I have the original 10" on "peanut" vinyl but there is supposedly a Cd reiss. Another thing is a French group called "Dragibus". Called "Bartbapoux" it's reinterpreted kiddie folk songs. I think this is on a Japanese label but I only received a dub so I can't be sure. I'm especially happy finding music that seems to work for kids one one level and adults on another. I say this but our 2 year old has always liked Esquivel though, so I don't think it's that scientific somehow! Moritz writes: > > BTW, I seem to be the one that always ends up answering the Klaus > > Schulze questions on this list. Hmmm... > That's probably because you like him so much, Brian! I guess we all have our closet demons... But rest assured I won't take up the cause for Heino! > Could a Danish roller-coaster-cotton-candy-ghost-train-park come up to > the expectations of the probably 3rd-biggest Disneyland-fan in the > world? It could, and more than that! I loved Tivoli myself and when I saw it in 1980 it was exactly what I would have expected a real (European) amusement park to be like. My own jaded view of Disneyland (never having visited) is much the same as how I view Las Vegas (proudly, the only member of my family never to have made the voyage); I would have loved to see both in the 50's/60's when they were still genuine (I'd have visited Las Vegas for the neon alone!) but now, I'd probably be visiting either one with about the same paranoid (what if someone I know actually sees me here) feeling as when I had to buy a Celine Dion cd for a present for my mother last year in a major chain record store! It's strange though because all things considered, I have to say that Coney Island, NY was by far one of the most interesting places I've ever visted, as amusement parks go. I was there some 15 years ago but you could still sense what the place was like in its heyday. The characters I saw there were such that you could ONLY find in New York. I remember the burned out roller coaster (still standing at the time) that Woody Allen's character, I think Annie Hall, claimed as his childhood home. The train ride through the burned out sections of Brooklyn was almost surreal. A 5 star attraction and a true urban experience that Disney can never hope to match but my guess is they wouldn't want to... Of course for all I know they've alreqady built a replica in Las Vegas! I am, however, finding myself intrigued about Euro Disneyland, if anything just to see for myself how on earth France of all places could have let this happen. I'm hopeful that somehow there MUST be something better to eat and drink there than McDonalds. Plus many added bonuses including; I could tell the family "yes I took the kid to Disneyland", I wouldn't likely run into anyone I knew, and last but not least, Paris, the world's absolute best food city is only a short trip away. You can bet this will be my first Disney experience and with the relative imbalance of the US dollar compared to our currency, it probably would cost less too! Anyway, welcome back Moritz! Gotta scan some of my Coney Island photos for you... Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: Re: (exotica) Kiddies, Klaus Schulze and Disneyland! Date: 05 Jul 1998 20:41:31 -0700 (PDT) http://www.mcs.net/~werner/yester.html Yesterland Site - Rememberance of now defunct Disneyland Attractions. waay cool site, kiddies :) paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 06 Jul 1998 04:47:26 -0400 At 09:44 AM 05/07/98 -0700, Pea Hicks wrote: >I play keyboards from time to time for a sort of folk-singer friend of >mine named Cindy Lee Berryhill. One time in san francisco i found an >autographed copy of her first album for like $2.00. >so i gave it to her as a gift!!! she was kind of bummed about that!!!! I once had one of her records but I bought it used and I don't have it anymore so you probably shouldn't tell her that either. I can see why she'd be bummed out by the record in your story. I mean, I have autographed records from Lenny Dee - more than a couple - and by Don Ho but I assume they were autographed in succession from the stage. I don't suppose the same thing happened much with Cindy Lee so her autograph would have hopefully meant more to the person. (But obviously not more than the two bucks she might have gotten when she sold it.) I've been with musician friends at the used record store and it's like automatic for you to find one of their records there and go "Hey Gord, look. Your first record". But I have trained myself to resist the temptation most of the time. Although I guess some of them could be happy to find an old copy given that many musicians don't have any copies of their own records. >;) it really makes me wonder how these things end up >in thrift stores. i always get the feeling that the person went through >some kind of cataclysm or something....... How does anything end up in a thrift store? They die. Or their mother throws everything out the minute they leave for college. But usually they die. One time I was discussing an unusually cool box of records I found at the Goodwill and I was telling this friend of mine "who would throw out records like that? I mean, these weren't a little old lady's records. These were a hip young guy's records". And my friend was just smiling this knowing smile, waiting for me to reach the same conclusion she already had. And then it hit me. A hip young guy dying. Right. Sorry to bring you down but I bet some of you just think "who cares how they got there?". And I agree with that too. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) mike nichols and elaine may purchased! Date: 06 Jul 1998 04:47:30 -0400 At 01:15 PM 05/07/98 EDT, BasicHip@aol.com wrote: > >Also, thanks to someone on this list who planted the seed of Sonny Lester in >my mind, I found an LP by his orchestra and chorus. "How To Belly Dance For >Your Husband" is a beautiful mix of exotic jazz and mysterious wordless >vocals. He also did "how to STRIP for your husband" and it's okay but not great. Obviously belly dancing is more exotic. I have two other records of his, both surprisingly - in some ways - on TIME records, surprising only because I usually find those records promise more than they deliver. One is identified as a Sonny Lester record and is called "After hours, Middle East" and if anyone is looking to reissue something, I recommend this. It has some astonishing cuts. The other one is called "The Belly Dancer" and this time they call the band "Abdul Alexi Freeman and his Enquirers". It's got a much longer list of musicians than the other one and Sonny Lester is only named in the writing credits. But some of the cuts are exactly the same as on the first record I mentioned. So what does that mean? That there was no one actually named Abdul Freeman? (What Jew names their son Abdul?) (Yeah okay I know there are non-jews named Freeman. What's that African American actors name? Something Freeman Jr?) Anyway, between the two records, you've got all the percussive, guitar heavy, organ driven fake Arab music you could ever want. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) chris montez Date: 06 Jul 1998 05:03:51 EDT Chris Montez--winner of the Wayne Newton soundalike contest # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pea Hicks Subject: Re: (exotica) mike nichols and elaine may purchased! Date: 06 Jul 1998 02:06:49 -0700 Nat Kone wrote: > > At 01:15 PM 05/07/98 EDT, BasicHip@aol.com wrote: > > > >Also, thanks to someone on this list who planted the seed of Sonny Lester in > >my mind, I found an LP by his orchestra and chorus. "How To Belly Dance For > >Your Husband" is a beautiful mix of exotic jazz and mysterious wordless > >vocals. > > He also did "how to STRIP for your husband" and it's okay but not great. > Obviously belly dancing is more exotic. For those who are keeping score, these 2 LPs were later issued as a 2 record box set on Roulette Records. It's called "Music To Keep Your Husband Happy," and comes complete with an instructional booklet. I somehow doubt that it was the *music* keeping their husbands happy.............. pea # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Hawaiian fashions for the masses Date: 06 Jul 1998 05:34:32 EDT another catalog with some interesting Hawaiian-oriented shirts is The Territory Ahead...The language describing the clothing is written like the catalog Elaine worked for on Seinfeld at one point, but some of the shirts are the bomb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Andy and Claudine Date: 06 Jul 1998 05:37:42 EDT Andy may have given America the Osmonds, but the Osmonds gave us the world's greatest Jackson5sploitation hit "One Bad Apple Don't Spoil The Whole Bunch Girl".....which arguably COULD go on Brad's tape.. ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Rolf Harris Date: 06 Jul 1998 05:39:05 EDT "Sun-a-risin' in thee mornin'...Settin' in the evenin' all around..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 06 Jul 1998 04:08:50 -0600 Not really on topic, but I thought myself lucky to pick up a copy in a second hand bookstore of Armistead Maupin's "Sure of You" first edition with his John Hancock. It was $5, which is a few bucks cheaper than new, and I was prepared to buy it new to read it. A nice touch. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dan hill Subject: (exotica) new reviews on motion Date: 06 Jul 1998 11:24:28 +0100 new reviews on ---+motion: thelonius monk - live at the it club deepak ram - flute for thought sue garner - to run more smoothly airto moreira and the gods of jazz - killer bees god speed you black emperor - f#a#oo joe and mat maneri - blessed caravan - bbc live in concert van der graaf generator - bbc sessions apologies for cross-postings simon & dan http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Hula dance Date: 06 Jul 1998 12:27:11 +0000 S=FCddeutsche Zeitung, 6/7/98: Francis Dilorenzo, catholic bishop of Hawaii, wants to approach the pope = with an unusual request: The Vatican should allow hula-dances in the services.= A speaker of the diocese in Honolulu, Patrick Downes, said, hula and other traditional dances should not be prohibited in churches, if they are perf= ormed correctly. The bishop wants to discuss this matter with the pope this fal= l. After the complaint of a Hawaiian the Vatican had banned the Polynesian hula-dances from the devine services. Bishop Dilorenzo assumes, that Rome= does not understand the cultural meaning of the hula in Hawaii, said Downes. (translation by myself) MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Disneyland Date: 06 Jul 1998 12:49:03 +0000 > I am, however, finding myself intrigued about Euro Disneyland, if > anything just to see for myself how on earth France of all places > could have let this happen. I'm hopeful that somehow there MUST > be something better to eat and drink there than McDonalds. Plus > many added bonuses including; I could tell the family "yes I > took the kid to Disneyland", I wouldn't likely run into anyone I > knew, and last but not least, Paris, the world's absolute best food > city is only a short trip away. You can bet this will be my > first Disney experience and with the relative imbalance of > the US dollar compared to our currency, it probably would cost less > too! I was in Disneyland, Paris resp. Eurodisney then, soon after it opened and they really made that mistake of serving food with plastic-cutlery, paper-mugs etc. and it just added up to the flop that this park was in the first two/three years. You just can't do that to the French! Another mistake they made in my opinion is to use this New Orleans style architecure for the outside entrance area just like in Anaheim, but it is exactly the same style of all ordinary French architecture especially from Paris, so it's not exotic at all to them. Well... Talking of the costs you expect for your visit, I wouldn't be so shure. Anaheim is still the cheapest I think. The nicest, to bring this to an end, might be the Tokyo Disneyland, not only due to the fact that you have these thousands of jap schoolchildren with black school-uniforms and their obligatory Mickey Mouse ears running around, but they also have some unique attractions that you can see nowhere else, like this inconspicuous acoustic sculpture next to a rest bank that makes little electronic sounds until you respond and then communicates with you. Or a wonderful show about Japanese history. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: RE: (exotica) Rolf Harris Date: 06 Jul 1998 07:38:03 -0400 I don't remember Sun Arise, but I just heard a clip of it at http://www.enterprise.net/rolfharris/ when I followed the Music link. The funniest rendition I have heard of any Rolf Harris music was on the tape I have of "I'm Sorry, I'll Read That Again", in which they censored, so-called "Questionable" words out of his inocuous songs, i.e.: "Two little boys had two little *BEEP*" It's a dangerous breed, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: RE: (exotica) What's this doing here? Date: 06 Jul 1998 08:02:32 -0400 I almost had an experience like that at an estate sale that was rife with MOR and bland gospel, to find a Ray Barretto record, which turned out to be a boring, generic, dance band record that was NOT Barretto! Check those discs, everyone! Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: RE: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 06 Jul 1998 08:02:32 -0400 1. Not an LP. 2. Not Exotica What it was though was this: while in the U.K., I was shopping in Camden Town and I found the record I was looking for "Night of Fear"/"Disturbance" by the Move for three pounds. I looked, and I saw that someone had written on the record, which I deplore, since I believe most folks know about my fixation on labels. However, I looked closer and I found that the scribble said, "Carl Wayne", the vocalist. A friend of mine knew someone who runs a Move page and he said this may very well be the real deal. Why not compare for yourself? This is definitely his signature: http://www.roywood.com/news4.jpg This is the record I found: http://www.mindspring.com/~hagar/d.html Brian Phillips, Shameless huckster, leavened by dry wit. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) A Good Beat And You Can Dance To It Date: 06 Jul 1998 14:01:03 +0000 > "Ben Waugh" wrote: > Subject: Re: (exotica) A Good Beat and You Can Dance to It > Henry Mancini Combo: Tequila > Dick Hyman: Washington Square > Red Norvo: Evening in Azerbaijan > Hugo Montenegro: MacArthur Park > John Barry: Twisting with James > Awfully, wonderfully yours, > BW Hi Ben, I'd like to have these taped down! What about working for a tape swap of killer dance tracks, taking inspiration from the recent thread introduced in the list by Brad (I know it's you in disguise!) Ciao Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) A Good Beat And You Can Dance To It Date: 06 Jul 1998 14:01:03 +0000 > Brad Bigelow wrote: > Subject: (exotica) A Good Beat and You Can Dance to It > Over the years of slipping exotica/space age/oddball pop and jazz into the > mix for parties and other social gatherings, I've noticed there are a few > tunes that invariably bring out the boogie in people: > "Limbo Jazz" on "Coleman Hawkins Meets Duke Ellington" > "Putti Putti" by Jay Epae from a European comp LP, "Rock-a-Hula-Bop" > "Action Line" by Dorothy Ashby from some comp CD of Chess instrumentals > "Coming Home, Baby" by Kai Winding > "Pata Pata," by Miriam Makeba > "Girl from Ipanema" on Martin Denny, "Hawaii a Go-Go" > "The Liquidator" on Dick Hyman, "The Man from O.R.G.A.N." > I'm tempted to put together a comp of nothing but killer tunes like these > that will drive listeners into a non-stop dance frenzy leading into a > higher level of consciousness and boogiosity. > Any suggestions of other tunes from the rest of you out in exotica-land? > Brad Hey Brad, please let me know when that tape will be done. It sounds such a great idea! Other track I can suggest: - "The In Crowd"; original version by Dobie Gray or others -"The Cat" by Jimmy Smith - "Wade In The Water" by Ramsey Lewis - "Sticks" by Cannonball Adderley - "Soul Bossa Nova" by Quincy Jones and many more that I will post as they pop up to mind. As a DJ I obviously have my classic dancefloor stormers, but I just picked up tunes that seemed to fill among the titles tou mentioned. Ciao Gionni Paludi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: RE: (exotica) Enter Lee Perry Date: 06 Jul 1998 08:12:05 -0400 > Any more martial arts songs out there? Well, there is one co-written by Byong Yu and Kantner and Slick of the Jefferson Starship. Byong Yu was their Tae Kwon Do teacher. "Ride the Tiger" Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Kontiki III - the museum expedition, Part 2 Date: 06 Jul 1998 14:21:03 +0000 The first impression of Sweden is really: Endless forests, elk-signs everywhere and a Volvo-dense of over 70 %. I steered my own Volvo (Latin for "I'm rolling") into Stockholm, the city= with 24.000 islands, not without leaving a painful amount of Swedish Kronen to= the=20 man at a gas station on our way. We were picked up by our friends who liv= ed on one of those islands and made the last 400 meters by boat. Around midsummernight in Sweden it's not getting dark anymore. An orange strip o= ver the horizon stays all night long, only moves around. The sun rises and se= ts almost in the north. It was a super-romantic evening by the water. Next day it started to rain. With our plastic coats we explored the city = and met Stefan Kery of Subliminal Sounds and Magnus Sandberg, both respected members of the Exotica list. It was the first time in my life I ever encountered someone I only had known via the electronic media before and = it was not a disappointment. We soon had a lot to talk about and they showed= us the places we would have liked to discover ourselves. Like this Thai restaurant with overboarding bamboo and palmtree furniture, which was so crowded that we ended up eating in the Garlic House, where even the beer = was made with Garlic. A selfmade poster featuring a Tarder Vic's menu demonst= rated their exotic desires. In the basement we were introduced to a club with r= ather incredible strange music playing on demand and we were welcomed with "Gut= en Morgen Deutschland" by Gunther Gabriel. Of course I had to free some long wanted records from the superb Subliminal store like the Sandy Warner alb= um or the soundtrack of "Hawaiian Eye" before leaving.=20 Midsummernight came and the Swedish men furnished proof of their drinking abilities. In a country where a bottle of beer costs as much as a Trader = Vic's cocktail in other countries getting stinko is pure luxury. So it's sort o= f a status symbol when you drop dead into the bushes soon after midnight. It seemed to be extra hip to be carried around by your girlfriend like a ste= ap back-pack for the rest of the evening leaning will-less on her shoulder. = I saw a couple of those couples until I faded out myself. Due to the weather conditions going to museums was the best we could do i= n Stockholm and the best of the museums was definitely the Vasa-museum. The= Vasa was a war-ship built in1625. It was so heavy that it sank immediately on = her Maiden-voyage in the harbour of Stockholm. In 1956 it was discovered and salvaged 1961 in an almost intact state. They built a whole museum around= it which cannot be recommended enough. The whole damn big thing of carved dark-brown wood looks alot like the design of the alien-spaceship of H.R.= Giger. After a rainy week with constantly sinking temperatures we were almost re= ady to take the next plane to Teneriffa, when Stefan recommended the island o= f Gotland to us. Next day we drove the car onto a ferry and set sails out i= nto the East-sea. It was said that Thor himself, the mighty Viking God, had = lived there and left his marks, giant stone formations that he had hammered int= o the super-hard stones that form the coast-line of Gotland and it's tiny sister-island Far=F6. The latter had been Swedish Navy-ground for decades= and has been opened to foreign visitors only 2 years ago. While a glimpse of = the sun was all we expected from our new destination, we would get to see muc= h more... (to be continued) MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) Rhinestone! (go with me on this one) Date: 06 Jul 1998 08:42:24 -0400 In a fit of testosterone, I was flipping through the channels and I happened upon "Rhinestone" with Dolly Parton and Sylvester Stallone and their was a scene with Ron Leibman and Parton in a bedroom, along the lines of Dudley Moore's in "10". What was playing in the background? Martin Denny's "Quiet Village". And all of you thought that the Exotica trend was waning! :^) Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Bennet" Subject: (exotica) Paradise Found Date: 06 Jul 1998 10:20:05 -0400 Anyone know anything about this one? (description from Darla Records catalog): V/A PARADISE FOUND: RARE EXOTIC SOUNDS, V.1 Hibiscus (NEW ZEALAND) HBCD1001 CD 12.00 The exotic sounds of Les Baxter, Martin Denny, Arthur Lyman and Eden Abez are now as familiar as Waikiki. Travel a little further off the beaten path and discover these EXTREMELY RARE and coveted exotic beauties and hidden pieces of aural paradise. Some of these artists were mere studio concoctions, some didn't play The Shell Bar or Don The Beachcomber's as often as The Martin Denny Group, but they did play there, and the outer islands, LA, San Francisco & beyond. No track here can be found in print within the last 40 years, almost. Paradise Found is a trip back to Honolulu circa 1958 when paradise meant empty beaches, big convertibles, luaus & aloha. Aloha Malahini!, Bangkok Cock Fight, Quiet Village, Bird Of Paradise, Taboo, White Goddess, Malayan Night Bird, Return To Paradise, s'Pacifica, Simalu, Kapu, Hawaiian China Doll, The Jungle Chase, Sondi, A Man and a Woman, Outrigger Canoe Ride. Ship date: 7/21/98. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael D. Toth Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 06 Jul 1998 10:41:38 -0000 recliner wrote: >> Then you could walk into your >>local Goodwill or Salvation Army and pick up all the Sergio Mendes and Herb >>Alpert you want in near mint condition for a buck each. If you get lucky, >>you'll get a Claudine, too. > >Please,please do! We should all boycott places like Footlights that >charge absurd amount of money for the easiest to find albums. Not living in New York, I've only dealt with Footlight through the Web/mail order for hard-to-find and import CDs, but I'm under the impression they do sell vintage vinyl and I have no idea how it's priced. The original posting was about the Claudine/A&M *CDs* carried by Footlight -- know that Japanese CDs actually *cost about that much* and there's typically not an exhorbitant markup on import CDs above their retail price in their country of origin (I've seen Japanese single-CD imports priced from $25 for budget titles all the way up to $45). These CDs are for the anti-vinyl CD enthusiast and/or the obsessive Claudine fan who fears they'll wear out their vinyl from playing it so much and likes the sound/convenience of a digital disc you can play in your car, computer, etc. In cases like the Japanese Bob Thompson CDs, the vinyl is also more difficult to find in premium condition and plays into the equation. Me, if I had money to burn recklessly, I'd seriously consider one of those *11-CD* Prado boxed sets, reportedly with his entire RCA output plus a previously unreleased live album...but $300+...yow... *I* wouldn't pay $5 for a Claudine CD, but thank goodness there are places like Footlight in the US where somebody who really wants them can get them. I've had nothing but good experience with Footlight (even though their postage is a bit stiff). I boycott your boycott. :-) Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) George Cates Date: 06 Jul 1998 09:44:07 -0600 BasicHip wrote: >Picked up the George Cates "Polynesian Percussion" LP which I was very pleased >with. Straight ahead and very good exotica, heavy on the percussion with more >background vocalese. Very nice. Yeah, "Polynesian Percussion" has much to recommend it to exoticats: Fab graphics, Alvino Rey on steel guitar, "Hawaiian War Chant" packaged as a cha-cha, and a headshot of the maestro himself looking very much the beatnik hipster. If only the music were as heated as the tiki torches embellishing the cover. "Very nice" summarizes the arrangements very nicely. But then, whaddya expect of a record subtitled, "Lawrence Welk presents..." MimiM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: A&M Date: 06 Jul 1998 11:06:09 -0400 > I believe that the reason many CD reissues are so bad is that they're done > by > some post-teenage rock engineer > You got that right. I can't complain enough about the re-release of The Ventures A-go-go that I got. They totally lost the "Visual Sound Stereo" to some 90s engineer that was never a Ventures fan and probably never heard the original vinyl, with its screaming Hammond B-3 and tin-can Mosrite guitars.... surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Kiddies, Klaus Schulze and Disneyland! Date: 06 Jul 1998 09:23:10 -0600 >I loved Tivoli myself and when I saw it in 1980 it was exactly >what I would have expected a real (European) amusement park to be >like. My own jaded view of Disneyland (never having visited) is much >the same as how I view Las Vegas (proudly, the only member of my >family never to have made the voyage); I would have loved to see both >in the 50's/60's when they were still genuine (I'd have visited Las >Vegas for the neon alone!) but now, I'd probably be visiting either >one with about the same paranoid (what if someone I know actually >sees me here) feeling as when I had to buy a Celine Dion cd for a >present for my mother last year in a major chain record store! OK, OK. No dissing of Disneyland. I've been to Disney World in Florida (some 23 years ago now, pre Epcot) and to Disneyland, CA just this past winter. This is CLASS amusement park entertainment. Blown away by the Fantasmagoric (or something like that) water show at night. Tiki room is untouched - bar a short bit cut out from the soundtrack. Rides are top notch - queuing is almost as much fun as the rides. It IS a Magic Kingdom. There are still a few of the originals like the FABULOUS Submarine ride. DIVE! Don't diss until you've been there. As for Vegas, why not try downtown Vegas? There is still a lot to see. Want to go to the Strip? Try the Riviera or the Frontier or Caesars (if you can afford it). Ask for a room in one of the original towers. You'd be surprised how easy it is to get one. If you close your eyes and squint, you can see what it was. Dress like a million bucks and play nickel slots if you must. But why not just learn to play cards. Go to the Peppermill Lounge for a cocktail. There is plenty of treasurable stuff there, just don't hit Treasure Island. Vegas used to be sin city, now it is like Disneyland for the whole family. That is a shame. But Disneyland is a great place if you're looking for family entertainment. No one does it better. Not all updated places are all crap. A little crappy, sure, but there are reasons these places are so popular. And it isn't JUST because they go for the mass audience. They do what they do really WELL. What you get out of it is up to you! >I am, however, finding myself intrigued about Euro Disneyland, if >anything just to see for myself how on earth France of all places >could have let this happen. I'm hopeful that somehow there MUST >be something better to eat and drink there than McDonalds. And you'd not get McDonalds in Disneyland. You'd get a Mickeyburger. You see, you've obviously never been there...I've not been to EuroDisney, but I'd love to go. I'm sure it's as class as Florida and California. However, the weather probably sucks... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "Enter the Dragon" grunting Date: 06 Jul 1998 03:57:17 -0600 At 14:53 04/07/98 EDT, you wrote: > >>>>my (Japanese) CD copy of "Enter the Dragon" doesn't have grunting, booohooo >;-( ><<< > >You can find Lalo Schifrin's "ETD" theme - grunts included - on "This Is the >Return of Cult Fiction: 36 Cult Classic Film & TV Themes" (Virgin UK, 1996). EVERYONE! I think there is some confusion on this point. We are not talking about the grunts in the song. Sure, they are in the track. On the LP, there is a track at the end that is essential JUST GRUNTING. Maybe a couple of sparse instrumentation, but just the fight grunting. This is only on the vinyl, not the CD. So we are not talking about the grunts in the theme song. You can get that on compilations and the Japanese CD. We are talking about the track that ONLY HAS GRUNTS as the MAIN "music". Which I'm pretty sure is on the album and NOT the CD. If anyone can confirm this, please email... Thanks. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: A&M Date: 06 Jul 1998 13:07:20 EDT Dear Charlieman- Vinyl Lives!!! Spread the Word!!! Regards Chuck > > I believe that the reason many CD reissues are so bad is that they're done > > by > > some post-teenage rock engineer > > > You got that right. I can't complain enough about the re-release of The > Ventures A-go-go that I got. They totally lost the "Visual Sound Stereo" to > some 90s engineer that was never a Ventures fan and probably never heard the > original vinyl, with its screaming Hammond B-3 and tin-can Mosrite > guitars.... > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) for trade: Marty Manning: "The Twilight zone" Date: 06 Jul 1998 14:18:53 +0200 for trade (or for sale, if i can't swap it): Marty Manning's "The Twilight zone" lp, Columbia mono CL 1586, without original cover alas, but record in perfect condition. Heavenly beautiful, mysterious outer space exotica, with wordless vocals, exotic percussion and lots of electronics. This in NOT the soundtrack to the TV series, but a record Marty Manning made after it. contact me by email if interested. Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 06 Jul 1998 13:38:21 EDT > Then you could walk into your >local Goodwill or Salvation Army and pick up all the Sergio Mendes and Herb >Alpert you want in near mint condition for a buck each. If you get lucky, >you'll get a Claudine, too. >Please,please do! We should all boycott places like Footlights that >charge absurd amount of money for the easiest to find albums. Excuse me, not to niggle, however---who you people kidding? it seems to me that you'd have to search Goodwills & Salv Armies day and night to find a REALLY near-mint copy of Mendes / Claudine etc. Virtually all these shops get mostly trash-can quality vinyl, & they cram them in with the beat up telephones and electronic junk or (maybe worse) stack 'em on the floor where they get kicked/knocked over periodically. Inner sleeves are less common than peanut butter stains (or other unidentifiable nasty googlers). Sure, there's a NM in there once in awhile, but what about the dozens you had to pass on? I mean, what's your time/gas/wear/tear worth? Fondly, Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Autographed records Date: 06 Jul 1998 13:47:59 EDT While we're on the subject......... I've got lp's autographed by the following: Larry Ferrari Sergio Franchi Frankie Laine Les McCann Challengers Eat your hearts out, Yankee dogs!! Cordially, Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Yesterland and Disneyland! Date: 06 Jul 1998 14:09:05 EDT In a message dated 98-07-05 23:42:26 EDT, you write: << Yesterland Site - Rememberance of now defunct Disneyland Attractions. waay cool site, kiddies :) >> this is actually a REALLY cool site. check out the "E Ticket" picture that is scaned in. i copied this and sometimes add it to letters, invitations, etc. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) More on the damn beanie babies Date: 06 Jul 1998 14:23:37 EDT this is a copy of a post that some "beanie" lover sent me: << You should see Freckles the leopard "lounging" in his martini glass, or spinning Martin Denny tunes sitting on the center of the turntable! Too precious for you to appreciate, I'm afraid! >> what i can appreciate is that i am now nauseous. and it ain't from the spinning record. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) A Good Beat and You Can Dance to It Date: 06 Jul 1998 20:32:49 +0000 Sorry, mate listmembers. On Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:01:03, I ("Giovanni Berti" giovanni@pirulazio.interim.it) wrote: > Hi Ben, I'd like to have these taped down! > What about working for a tape swap of killer dance tracks, taking > inspiration from the recent thread introduced in the list by Brad (I > know it's you in disguise!) The message was meant to be sent privately to a listmember, and has been posted to the list by error, probably resulting partly obscure. Sorry for the waste of your time I have caused. Ciao Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) The All Seeing I Date: 06 Jul 1998 20:32:49 +0000 Just wanted to say that I have bought a cd single by this group "The All Seeing I" (I don't know anything about them, except that they're from Sheffield, UK) called "Beat Goes On", that - yes - it is a reworked version of the Sonny & Cher classic. Whether I tend to dislike contemporary "Easy" music (Dimitri from Paris, Air, etc.) I find this record do rule! It has a distinct easy flavour, and it is quite danceable too, without sounding any house. Nice lazy girl vocals. Worth a listen, if you should come across. It's out on London Records (ffrr/earth recs.), 570 146-2. PY901. LC7654 (1998). B-side is all-forgettable "Booty In The I" I Think it's their first. Does anyone know something about them? Ciao Gionni # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) mike nichols and elaine may purchased! Date: 06 Jul 1998 12:24:21 -0700 >>Also, thanks to someone on this list who planted the seed of Sonny Lester in >>my mind, I found an LP by his orchestra and chorus. "How To Belly Dance For >>Your Husband" is a beautiful mix of exotic jazz and mysterious wordless >>vocals. >He also did "how to STRIP for your husband" and it's okay but not great. About a year ago I picked up a still-sealed album at a garage sale that is very similar to these mentioned. I haven't broken the seal yet, though - perhaps someone has heard it and knows if I should. It's called "How to Keep Your Husband Happy - Look Slim! Keep Trim! Exercise along with Debbie Drake", with muic by Frank Hunter (Epic Stereo/BN 26102). The back has a wonderful checklist for keeping husbands happy - things like keeping your voice soft and musical, and keeping mentally alert by trying to read (!). Anyone heard it? Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Andy and Claudine Date: 06 Jul 1998 12:33:06 -0700 At 05:37 AM 7/6/98 EDT, you wrote: > >Andy may have given America the Osmonds, but the Osmonds gave us the world's >greatest Jackson5sploitation hit "One Bad Apple Don't Spoil The Whole Bunch >Girl".....which arguably COULD go on Brad's tape.. ;-) Don't forget "Yo-Yo" and "Down by the Lazy River"! I believe the Osmonds were demoted to Branson as well, and little Jimmy (remember "Long Haired Lover from Liverpool" - Eeek) is now their business manager. I think they have an official site, it's like www.osmonds.com or something.... So does anyone know who "Andy and David Williams", failed seventies teen idols, were? Blood relations to Andy/Claudine? Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Kontiki III - the museum expedition, Part 2 Date: 06 Jul 1998 16:02:25 -0400 At 02:21 PM 06/07/98 +0000, Moritz R wrote: 1) >met ** and ** both respected members of the Exotica list. 2) > It was the first time in my life I everencountered someone I only had known via the electronic media before and it was not a disappointment. I don't question the second statement. I bet that was a nice experience. I figure I'll do that myself someday. I almost did meet a couple of people from the list a couple of months ago but "something" happened to them. But that first statement... Are there "respected" members here? Respectable, probably a whole bunch, maybe not... I'm not saying they're NOT respected... Oh, somebody knows what I'm saying here. I guess I thought that a bunch of people who discuss the relative merits of often long-forgotten, discarded and disregarded records wouldn't be referring to each other as "the honourable member from wherever". (And don't bother with the replies "Yes there are respected members but you're not one of them!" Last time I heard that, I fell off my dinosaur laughing.) Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmperl@juno.com (Jonathan M Perl) Subject: (exotica) records for sale Date: 06 Jul 1998 17:34:21 -0400 I will be packing up my stuff and moving away from NYC in a couple of months. But I went a bit overboard with my record purchases, and won't be able to carry it all. So there are some listed for sale here: http://www.atlanticventure.com/myforsale.html Most are no more than three or four dollars. If you are interested but don't have web access, let me know, and I will email you a list. sorry for the intrusion regards Jonny _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Re: http://swingchicks.com Date: 06 Jul 1998 14:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Thought you might like some of the music at this site. > > http://www.swinginchicks.com/ > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Sloane Subject: Re: (exotica) The inherently un-cool (was Tiki Lites / swing / Date: 06 Jul 1998 15:26:20 -0500 At 01:24 PM 7/5/98 -0500, recliner wrote: >When asked "What kind of music do you like?" those who reply: "I like all >kinds of music" are inherently un-cool. > >Am I too mean? I don't know about "mean," but may I argue with you, Frank? I fail to see why "lik[ing] all kinds of music" makes one "inherently un-cool." Could you explain a bit more? Maybe it's "coolness" (or this particular formulation of it) with which I have a problem: does one's "obsession" in something up the coolness factor? I've always been confused about this argument when it comes to music. Music often, if not always, evolves through the combinations of different forms, textures, sounds. How do you judge where one music stops and another starts? This begs the question about how genres get defined (my own particular obsession right now), and to what extent the lines that ostensibly divide genres are accepted, mutate, and/or are thrown out altogether. As many on this list have noted, "exotica" (hey, we can't even agree on an accurate NAME for our quasi-genre) is almost undefinable by music type. As someone recently suggested, it seems to be more about a spirit of eclecticism (itself an inclusionary impulse) than any unifying sound qualities. Similarly, the recent thread about swing showed some slippage between what gets defined as "swing" and how that, in its most current form, is different from, or incorporates elements of, rockabilly, jump jazz, big band, etc. If someone were to tell you she's into "dance" music, and collected it obsessively, what would that mean to you? Pop? Disco? Techno? Ballroom? Swing? Ballet? All? Some? I can't think of another category name (except perhaps "exotica") that has so little descriptive power. Granted, the argument might change if someone obsessively collects, um, "death metal"--but again, who decides what that might be? (Music companies, radio stations, fans, musicians, critics, etc.--but they're always fighting about it.) I'm sure that the spirit animating your post is that anyone who devotes enough time to being thorough in collecting will necessarily be more "cool" (knowledgeable/trendsetter/whatever) than those with broader tastes (the so-called "dupes," "dabblers," and "trend followers" whom you necessarily assume will be less "obsessive," or thorough, which is not an assumption I would make). But this kind of insular thinking seems, to me, to be remarkably close to the kinds of attitudes that foster nationalism, racism, xenophobia (I am NOT accusing you of such things): "Here's my space, I own it, nobody else can get in." This seems to fly in the face of what music is generally, and what "exotica" represents more specifically. If what you say represents a truism for fans of particular genres (and I'm afraid it often does), it's little surprise to me that so many people with similar interests (i.e., music) have so little to talk about except what they just scored, or how their "collections" are coming along, etc. I got interested in "exotica" because it seems inclusionary, not exclusionary, in every way. I was hoping we'd gotten past name-calling and territorial games. Best, and Not meant as a flame, but as a serious inquiry, Rob P.S.: I'd venture to say that many on this list would say "I like all kinds of music." Yes? No? P.P.S.: Or maybe we're all just inherently un-cool. Which is fine. :) At 01:24 PM 7/5/98 -0500, recliner wrote: >>A friend of mine once said that ANY record collection, as long as it was >>thorough enough in its focus, would be inherently cool. > >Obsession=cool=trendsetter > >Dabbler=ordinary=dupe(trend follower) > >Tangentially related: > >When asked "What kind of music do you like?" those who reply: "I like all >kinds of music" are inherently un-cool. > >Am I too mean? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) the berkeley item #8 Date: 06 Jul 1998 18:25:01 Pacific Daylight Time -------- >From: tony@yellowdog.com >To: darren.hutton@gte.net >Subject: the berkeley item #8 >Date: July 06, 1998 > >I am just passing it on and nothing to do with writing it. > >Tony > >> > >> ****************************************** > >> N E W S F R O M F A N T A S Y , I N C. > >> < > >> ****************************************** > >> > >> ROB BOWMAN is the co-producer of Stax's forthcoming BOOKER T. & THE >MGs box > >> "Time Is Tight" and annotator of several dozen Stax reissues. He's >also the > >> author of "Soulsville, U.S.A.: The Story of Stax Records," published >last > >> fall by Schirmer Books and twice honored this spring: > >> > >> The Chicago-based Association of Recorded Sound Collections has >bestowed > >> its Excellence in Musical Research award on Bowman; and on July 25, >Rob > >> will fly to Porretta, Italy to accept the Sweet Soul Music Award >onstage at > >> the Porretta Music Festival, held in Rufus Thomas Park. (Performing >that > >> night will be SOLOMON BURKE and the BAR-KAYS.) > >> > >> "Soulsville: U.S.A." has just been nominated for a Ralph J. Gleason >Music > >> Book Award, to be announced later this month. > >> > >> For further information, contact Rob Bowman at <. > >> > >> ============ > >> > >> Three titles, all guitarist's delights, are about to be reissued from >the > >> Kicking Mule catalog. "Thirteen Down," recorded in '79, is the only >studio > >> album by the BERT JANSCH CONUNDRUM; Jansch, of course, is the >influential > >> co-founder of Pentangle whom Neil Young fdubbed "the Jimi Hendrix of > > >> acoustic guitarists." ><http://www.fantasyjazz.com/jan >schb3909.html > >> > >> The *other* co-founder of Pentangle, JOHN RENBOURN, is >featured with STEFAN > >> GROSSMAN on "Under the Volcano" (1979), the guitar duo's second >album. > >> "It's not like putting B.B. King in front of an English rock band," > >> Grossman observed of their partnership at the time of this recording. > > >> "Actually now I'm playing more Irish and Celtic tunes and John's >playing > >> the funky blues." ><http://www.fantasyjazz.com/g >rossmans3910.html > >> > >> "Of all the instrumental albums I have worked on," STEFAN >GROSSMAN wrote in > >> the notes for "Bottleneck Serenade" (1975), "this has been the most > >> exciting to put together." Recorded in Rome and London, the disc took > > >> advantage of then-new 16-track studio technology, allowing Grossman >to > >> create multi-layered guitar instrumentals. > >> http://www.fantasyjazz.com/grossmans3911.html > >> > >> > >> ****************************************** > >> N E W S F R O M F A N T A S Y , I N C. > >> Fantasy / Prestige / Milestone / Contemporary > >> Good Time Jazz / Pablo / Riverside / Galaxy > >> Specialty / Takoma / Kicking Mule / Stax > >> Original Jazz Classics / Original Blues Classics > >> <<<> > >> > >> > > >Tony Gasparre < > > President > >Yellow Dog Communications, Inc. > >< > >phone 716.235.4685 fax 716.235.0509 > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Sando Subject: Re: (exotica) The inherently un-cool (was Tiki Lites / swing / Date: 06 Jul 1998 15:35:33 -0700 At 03:26 PM 7/6/98 -0500, Robert Sloane wrote: > >At 01:24 PM 7/5/98 -0500, recliner wrote: > >>When asked "What kind of music do you like?" those who reply: "I like all >>kinds of music" are inherently un-cool. >> >>Am I too mean? > >I don't know about "mean," but may I argue with you, Frank? I fail to see >why "lik[ing] all kinds of music" makes one "inherently un-cool." I think the un-cool answer to "What kind of music do you like?" is "Oh, I don't know, all types really". Ussually this means they like current pop music but can listen to anything. These people are ussually irritated by my music. It's like having a full bar and asking what your guest would like to drink and they reply, "Oh, just a white wine". There's nothing wrong with white wine, but no one seems to say "Gosh, I'd adore a white wine!", there's often a certain I'm-not-going-to-completely-enjoy-myself attitude. Naturally, there exceptions. Has anyone else had the horrifying experience of being introduced socially to someone new with "Oh, Steve knows ALL about music" and the new person loves power rock or Celine Dion and thinks you're a fraud because you don't follow the latest grungebands? MisterLUCKY, published by Coconut Grove Media Visit MisterLUCKY on the web: http://www.mrlucky.com PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) The inherently un-cool Date: 07 Jul 1998 01:51:55 +0000 "We're through being cool" (DEVO 1981) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) The inherently un-cool (was Tiki Lites / swing / Date: 06 Jul 1998 20:04:39 -0400 At 03:26 PM 06/07/98 -0500, Robert Sloane wrote: >I'm sure that the spirit animating your post is that anyone who devotes >enough time to being thorough in collecting will necessarily be more "cool" >(knowledgeable/trendsetter/whatever) than those with broader tastes (the >so-called "dupes," "dabblers," and "trend followers" whom you necessarily >assume will be less "obsessive," or thorough, which is not an assumption I >would make). But this kind of insular thinking seems, to me, to be >remarkably close to the kinds of attitudes that foster nationalism, racism, >xenophobia (I am NOT accusing you of such things): Well as long as we understand we're both engaging in hyperbole here, I'd venture the opinion that someone who says they like all kinds of music would be more likely to be the racist and/or nationalist. Why? Because saying you like everything means that you have no opinion of your own and racism and nationalism also can derive from the same non-thinking, non-discerning attitude. Accepting what you've been fed. Hey by the way, belated happy birthday to all you proud Americans in the greatest country the world has ever known. The freest, the best, the smartest.. hmm, how do I know that? Well that's what they say. I don't think about cool or uncool much when someone says "I like everything". All I think is "Oh you mean, you don't have any particular attractions? You mean that I could play you anything right now and it would have approximately the same effect on you?" And this reminds me of the old joke: "What's the best thing someone will say about a Canadian film?" Answer: "Pretty good". "What's the worst thing they'll say?" Same answer: "pretty good". (Or are you supposed to tell that in the opposite order?) That's not a joke about Canadian film but about the public's attitude towards them. (Note to brian k., cheryl and will: shhhhhhh...) Okay maybe it's a joke about Canadian film too. I didn't think this was a discussion of people who say "I like lots of different genres" and mean that they love Coltrane and Yo La Tengo and Blind Willie Johnson and Al Green and the Palace Brothers and the Louvin Brothers and Gary McFarland and Perez Prado and Henry Mancini. I thought it was about people who turn on the radio and hear the announcer say "WKBW, the station that's not too hard, not too soft". And they think "oh perfect". I thought it was about people who say "I like everything" and mean "I don't like anything in particular". And that's fine with me. I feel the same way about classical music. And I would just say "Oh turn on whatever you want because it's all about the same to me". I'm stopping myself here. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: Re: (exotica) The inherently un-cool (was Tiki Lites / swing / etc) Date: 06 Jul 1998 19:06:14 -0500 Steve: >Has anyone else had the horrifying experience of being introduced >socially to someone new with "Oh, Steve knows ALL about music" and >the new person loves power rock or Celine Dion and thinks you're a >fraud because you don't follow the latest grungebands? That's the story of my life. Jeff _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) the berkeley item #8 Date: 06 Jul 1998 20:04:42 -0400 At 06:25 PM 06/07/98 Time, darren hutton wrote: >>> ROB BOWMAN is the co-producer of Stax's forthcoming BOOKER T. & THE >>MGs box "Time Is Tight" and annotator of several dozen Stax reissues. He's >>also the author of "Soulsville, U.S.A.: The Story of Stax Records," published >>last fall by Schirmer Books and twice honored this spring: Who's the Rob Bowman fan here? Let's not get into that subject. (winking for the second time today at Will...) Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: Re: (exotica) http://swingchicks.com Date: 07 Jul 1998 01:41:20 +0000 chuck wrote: >Thought you might like some of the music at this site. > http://www.swinginchicks.com/ Never mind *that*, you should check out the Chicks (unofficial) website: http://www.bronte.demon.co.uk/chicks/ New Irish Shaggs-tastic teen pop sensation? Only one EP out so far, but from the one track I've heard, these girls ROCK! Robbie ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) The inherently un-cool rule Date: 06 Jul 1998 21:08:31 -0400 Any attempts at analysis, definition or quantification of cool automatically cause all cool to vanish from the area (naturally, this rule includes itself as an offender). m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: RE: (exotica) Enter Lee Perry Date: 06 Jul 1998 22:08:44 EDT Carl Douglas--Kung Fu Fighting--every DJ worth the name plays it 45 minutes before shutting down # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gary Mattingly Subject: Re: (exotica) The inherently un-cool (was Tiki Lites / swing / Date: 06 Jul 1998 20:42:28 -0700 At 08:04 PM 7/6/98 -0400, Nat Kone wrote: >I don't think about cool or uncool much when someone says "I like >everything". All I think is "Oh you mean, you don't have any particular >attractions? You mean that I could play you anything right now and it >would have approximately the same effect on you?" . . Hm, I read the above and thought inappropriate assumptions were and/or are made, on your part. . . >I didn't think this was a discussion of people who say "I like lots of >different genres" and mean that they love Coltrane and Yo La Tengo and >Blind Willie Johnson and Al Green and the Palace Brothers and the Louvin >Brothers and Gary McFarland and Perez Prado and Henry Mancini. . . I read this and I thought, well, that's why I usually say I like lots of music. Hm, I may say almost everything. I suppose I should be a bit more rigorous and say I like good music, no matter what the genre. . . >I thought it was about people who turn on the radio and hear the announcer >say "WKBW, the station that's not too hard, not too soft". And they think >"oh perfect". >I thought it was about people who say "I like everything" and mean "I don't >like anything in particular". >And that's fine with me. I feel the same way about classical music. And I >would just say "Oh turn on whatever you want because it's all about the >same to me". > . . I continued reading and I'm not sure I understand why the email goes on and on. Coherent isn't a word I might use. The Canadian joke was moderately dumb. Each to his own, but there are really some excellent classical pieces out there too. It's really not all the same. . . >I'm stopping myself here. . . Good. Yeah, I probably shouldn't have added my two cents. Seems like a waste of time. I think I'll go back to listening to Gustavo Santaolalla's "Ronroco", then follow it with either Plastilina Mosh's "Aquamosh" or Joe Beard's "For Real". Have fun! Gary -- Gary S. Mattingly -- gmatting@dnai.com -- http://www.dnai.com/~gmatting # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 06 Jul 1998 23:40:52 -0400 I have two favorite autographed LPs: 1) John Davidson's "Touch Me" album, which has a cover photo of a topless (her back is to the camera) blonde long-haired woman giving John a hug. The LP features a great laid back seductive whispering version of Jim Croce's "I'll Have to Say I Love You In A Song" - Autographed in red marker on the back by Mr. Davidson. 2) Frank Sinatra's "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas" LP No, it's not autographed by Frank, but the white bordered area contains the following words written in red and green ink: 'To "Cathy" Curry Francis and her husband "Mike" is given this Christmas recording by "the Voice" Sinatra's, to convey the donor's high esteem at Yuletide 1970 for a most worthy couple from the friend "Cathy" helped inspire to become to become WVU's "professor of the year" in 1970' And its finally signed 'Dr. Royal C. Gilkey' Yep, its a little bit confusing, perhaps written in a drunken fit of appreciation, but it's rare that one gets this amount of personalization written on a record. Of course, I just plain like the idea of a college professor giving out Frank Sinatra LPs as presents. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) More on the Disney experience... Date: 06 Jul 1998 23:58:36 EST Moritz wrote: > Talking of the costs you expect for your visit, I wouldn't be so shure. > Anaheim is still the cheapest I think. It's that damned overpriced US dollar! I know the DM has dropped almost 25% against out Canadian dollar in the past 3 years but it seems every currency in existence except maybe the UK pound has lost big against the US dollar. Tourism is the big loser in all this, as a lot of US cities near our border are finding. It's not like we here in Canada have a lot of close vacation choices given our geography. > The nicest, to bring this to an end, might be the Tokyo Disneyland, not only > due to the fact that you have these thousands of jap schoolchildren with black > school-uniforms and their obligatory Mickey Mouse ears running around, but > they also have some unique attractions that you can see nowhere else, like > this inconspicuous acoustic sculpture next to a rest bank that makes little > electronic sounds until you respond and then communicates with you. Or a > wonderful show about Japanese history. Funny you should mention this as I was close to hypothesizing on Tokyo Disneyland, where in opposition to Euro Disney, the concept would seem much less out of place, especially given the Japanese obsessive emulation of all things American. To me the new Japan would be almost as much fun to experience as the old and the contrast between them all the more fascinating. Of course even with the devaluation of the Yen, this would surely be the most expensive Disney experience yet! I won't go into the relative merits of the Disney or Las Vegas experience, and as Jill says, I really can't comment until I've made the pilgrimage myself. However, there's no doubt that the outloook of a European vs a North Amercan toward this subject is likely to be wildly different. For me the US is at once the most exotic place I've ever visted while also among the dullest. Not to knock that seeming contradiction as it's exactly that extreme that makes it the one place where anything is truly possible! But I gotta say, the massive increase in "corporate" blandness that by geography channels itself into Canada, isn't exactly increasing those exotic qualities I so much admire. Not to worry though, there's plenty of the exotic left, all it takes is a little effort to go looking for it. The whole issue is very well presented in George Ritzer's "The McDonaldization of America" which actually maintains a website for anyone interested. You know it's kind of nice to talk about exotica culture for a change rather than strictly relating to music. I think its something we don't do nearly enough on this list! Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: Re: (exotica) What kind of music do you like? Date: 07 Jul 1998 00:38:03 -0400 > >>When asked "What kind of music do you like?" those who reply: "I like all > >>kinds of music" It's easy to picture a teenager replying by saying something like "Oh I like all kinds....Celine Dion, Jewel, Hanson " and then progressing down the line with all their favorite overplayed MTV videos. Although narrow, this is their view of the musical world. This worldview is quite different from a typical exotica list subscriber definition of "all kinds", whose knowledge of the different possibilities of musical styles is much more varied. It's a tough question to answer. I've been asked the question "What type of music do you like?" and have at various times said a) "lounge", which leaves them more or less befuddled, but does give me the opportunity to spread the word about a new musical genre (which normally either bores or confuses them) Or worse yet, they assume that 'lounge' is the only music I listen to. I have a co-worker who would answer the question with "I like Heavy Metal", and then I visited his house and sure enough 99.5% of his music was heavy metal. I admired this guy's dedication, but not his worldliness. b) "oh, all kinds" but then they don't gain a real appreciation for my musical diversity. This is though, the safe reply, much like answering "Fine, how are you" to the question "How are you?" c) "everything from punk to polka to lounge to..etc. etc. etc." and then they think I'm schizophrenic, or just too wishy-washy. d) "anything but country and classical" and then they view me as a negative person with a real nasty grudge who is rather close minded. I think that the best response is "Well, this is what I've been listening to lately" which enables me to spotlight my current favorites while acknowledging that there are other genres I tend also to like. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Not dead yet??... Date: 07 Jul 1998 01:00:13 EDT In a message dated 98-07-03 23:33:28 EDT, you write: << "Lounge" is gasping it's last breaths of life from what I can see. The first sign of doom was when I discovered those RCA History of Space Age Pop CDs were pulled out of print a while back. (aside from used or unreturned-new stock in a store, you can only get them through BMG's CD Club's leftover stock any more) The majors (with the exception of Capitol) didn't seem to have too much faith in its viability before, so it's REALLY grim now. It looks like further reissues from major label vaults are already pretty much impossibilities. The only thing I could see that could change all this is if the buzz around Esquivel that jump-started this whole thing 4 years ago gets reignited when that John Leguizamo Esquivel movie gets released (whenever that is). For the few folks on this list who don't already have a turntable: the way things look, vintage vinyl is about to be your only source for acquiring new music in the genre. >> Do you really think so? I mean where I live in L.A. every record store has a lounge records section and I have seen those RCA CDs everywhere. I don't think we've seen the end of it. As I've posted before, I am just amazed at how much mileage Capitol's Ultra Lounge is getting what with that Rat Pack debut on television recently and AMC did a lounge movie every saturday and a lounge "sweepstakes" where you got all the Ultra lounge comps and a classic car and dinner with some lounge has-been. I think they are still getting a lot of action and don't seem to be cooling off. Anyone else out there got an opinion on this? Any industry watchers? Does anyone know if Capitol has a new series of Ultra Lounge comps in the works??? - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Lounge forever Date: 07 Jul 1998 01:00:08 EDT In a message dated 98-07-05 13:23:58 EDT, recliner@ime.net writes: << > >>Anyway, I do have the feeling that swing may be rapidly displacing >>"lounge" Nothing will *replace* lounge. Lounge is lounge period! >> Certainly this is a true statement, since in order for lounge to be "replaced," the whole lot of us will have to stop listening to lounge and start listening to swing. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael D. Toth Subject: (exotica) Re: Not dead yet??... Date: 07 Jul 1998 02:16:17 -0000 Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: >Do you really think so? I mean where I live in L.A. every record store >has a lounge records section and I have seen those RCA CDs everywhere. That ain't a good sign. If you still see those RCA comps everywhere, then it means nobody's bought them in months, since they couldn't have been restocked. I don't know when they were pulled out of print exactly, but I discovered they were discontinued at least a couple months back (check those MUZE kiosks and/or CD-NOW to see for yourself). Ask those record stores how many copies of Louis Prima CDs they're moving and then how the Esquivel twofers are selling. It's grim out there for the Esquivel side of "lounge." >I don't >think we've seen the end of it. As I've posted before, I am just amazed at >how much mileage Capitol's Ultra Lounge is getting what with that Rat Pack >debut on television recently and AMC did a lounge movie every saturday and a >lounge "sweepstakes" where you got all the Ultra lounge comps and a classic >car and dinner with some lounge has-been. But again, it's the Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, and Wayne Newton variety of "lounge," which never really captivated me. I'm much more taken by the whole Esquivel, Three Suns, Dean Elliott, Arthur Lyman, etc. Space Age Pop scene, which I thought has given way to the Rat Pack and swing stuff whose appeal I felt lay in their broad familiarity and nostalgia aspects. What was that Esquivel movie -- "Cabaret Tragico?" If *that* is getting shown on AMC's lounge series, then it's another story. But the music that intrigued me and got me on this mailing list seems to have gotten pushed back underground by most people's preconceptions of the words "lounge" or "easy listening." Your resident Space Age Bachelor, Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 07 Jul 1998 00:37:58 -0700 >1) John Davidson's "Touch Me" album, which has a cover photo of a >topless (her back is to the camera) blonde long-haired woman giving John >a hug. The LP features a great laid back seductive whispering version >of Jim Croce's "I'll Have to Say I Love You In A Song" >- Autographed in red marker on the back by Mr. Davidson. Woo hoo! I have this one too (but not autographed), and I find it quite a hoot. To me, it sounds like he's doing an impersonation of David Cassidy & the Partridge Family, and pretty accurately too! It was probably released around the peak of the PF - was he going for the teen market? Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Kontiki III - the museum expedition, Part 2 Date: 07 Jul 1998 10:00:32 +0000 Nat Kone wrote: > > At 02:21 PM 06/07/98 +0000, Moritz R wrote: > > 1) >met ** and ** both respected members of the Exotica list. > Are there "respected" members here? > Respectable, probably a whole bunch, maybe not... > I'm not saying they're NOT respected... > Oh, somebody knows what I'm saying here. > I guess I thought that a bunch of people who discuss the relative merits of > often long-forgotten, discarded and disregarded records wouldn't be > referring to each other as "the honourable member from wherever". > (And don't bother with the replies "Yes there are respected members but > you're not one of them!" Last time I heard that, I fell off my dinosaur > laughing.) I don't mind, if you laugh. If you wouldn't, I'd be disappointed. No, wait: A whimsy smile might do as well! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Record obsessive Date: 07 Jul 1998 00:31:02 +0000 I freely admit it...I am obsessive about my record collection. This doesn't mean I only buy pristine condition LPs, however. One of my objectives is to get vinyl with a reasonable chance of being good and rescuing it from the throw away society and giving it new life. Of course, I am overjoyed when I find records in excellent condition which were kept by someone who cared. Today I ran across G.G. Morgan's assortment of mostly jazz/big band LPs at the thrift store (I have no idea who this person was, but the name was on a label on one of the records). Morgan had all his records in their original sleeves. Morgan didn't write all over the cover, but when there was writing, it was a snappy signature of the owner (always on white space). The owner apparently liked to play the records, because the sleeves did not create a "dust seal" as obsessives like me insist on: the record was ready to roll out anytime without removing the sleeve. So give Morgan lots a points, but take off one for not putting the record in the sleeve in the cover with the sleeve open side UP. However, he gets many extra points for putting the records away once he played them: no dust, no clam dip, no fingernail polish, no fingerprints. If I didn't know better, they were kept in mylar outer covers (like I put over those of mine with no cover abrasions). There was little ring wear on his albums and few split seams. My theory is: the owner simply didn't jam pack them into the shelves (which also helps prevent cover abrasions). Only a handful of the albums were without inner sleeves...but these were the low cost ones (which may not have had sleeves to begin with!) or the Columbias (Columbia often put their records in these plastic sacks...nice to seal in new vinyl but difficult to use on a regular basis). So, today, I "dust sealed" all of them, put a little card in them (indicating the price, when and where I bought it, the original owner's name if known, notes on condition) and prepared them for the price sticker removal ceremony. Thanks to good advice HERE (on this list), I now can safely remove most stickers from almost any album cover by applying lighter fluid (not a recommended method for chain smokers). After that, the ones with excellent covers get the mylar bags (open side up) and then they get inserted properly on the shelves (alphabetical/label number order of course). HOWEVER, I will never have the excellent condition LPs Morgan once owned...thanks to Goodwill. As if their industrial strength stickers on the front cover aren't enough, they also inscribe the price with a felt-tip pen on the back cover. The ink sinks into the paper and can't be removed. AND, the jokers like to put the price over album notes, photographs or illustrations: never over only white space. I was able to remove, safely, some of the felt-tipped marker prices...but only when the back cover was "glossy." A couple of times they marked the price on shrink wrap, so they can't be that evil minded about it. (ooo, let's take this perfect record and mark it up so it's not perfect anymore!) Can't help think about the time one company did a public service campaign for condoms...and stapled a sample onto every brochure! I understand the birthrate shot up tremendously there that year. :) I long for the time when merchants used to write the price of the LP in pencil (some of my LP's have the original price still written there: I could have erased the 2.98 or 3.98, but thought better of it). Okay, now you are saying (among other things) "Then don't buy Thrift Store records." Hey, I have to complain about something! :) I am certainly not going to complain about the price at this store! I do think this is more than just a criticism of their care of record cover condition...it also says something about trust. Here they are selling things they didn't even buy to resell...it was GIVEN to them. And how do they repay their public...by redundant pricing in case someone wants to steal or alter these donated items! No trust, no belief in the customer...in fact, disdain and discouragement are offered to those willing to buy old and used stuff. Thanks for the memory (about 13 kbytes I imagine). Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way visit my website: http://www.hubris.net/zolac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) The All Seeing I Date: 07 Jul 1998 09:31:11 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 07/07/98 04:31 AM cc: The All Seeing I is a good record and it has been mentioned before on this list. The singing is lifted from Sonny & Cher's The Beat Goes on and the rest of it - bassline, breaks, fill-ins etc. are all lifted from Buddy Rich's cover version of The Beat Goes On. The whole record is made from two other records with only the vibra-bass and lfo sounds added. It's still very cool though. Their first release (which is still here in a couple of London record shops is a rolling slow, jazzy thing with a repetitive slow 4 bar sampled loop. It is good but doesn't measure up to The Beat Goes On. Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Kontiki III - the museum expedition, Part 2 Date: 07 Jul 1998 11:55:24 +0000 Nat Kone wrote: > > At 02:21 PM 06/07/98 +0000, Moritz R wrote: > > 1) >met ** and ** both respected members of the Exotica list. > Are there "respected" members here? > Respectable, probably a whole bunch, maybe not... > I'm not saying they're NOT respected... > Oh, somebody knows what I'm saying here. > I guess I thought that a bunch of people who discuss the relative merits of > often long-forgotten, discarded and disregarded records wouldn't be > referring to each other as "the honourable member from wherever". > (And don't bother with the replies "Yes there are respected members but > you're not one of them!" Last time I heard that, I fell off my dinosaur > laughing.) I don't mind, if you laugh. If you wouldn't, I'd be disappointed. No, wait: a sly smile might be equally appropriate! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Kiddies, Klaus Schulze and Disneyland! Date: 07 Jul 1998 03:57:08 -0600 At 14:30 06/07/98 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-07-06 11:26:06 EDT, you write: > ><< here are still a > few of the originals like the FABULOUS Submarine ride. >> > >they are dismantling this one at disney world (was closed when i was there in >dec 96). you need to save your money (and i do mean save) and go to disney >world again. epcot is beautifully landscaped, architected, etc. MGM studios >are good and i have not been to animal kingdom. it cost a lot to stay in the >park (43 freaking square miles!!!) but is worth it. WAIT A MINUTE...I was in Disneyland just March 98, and I rode the Sub ride. Even had to queue for quite a while. It's still going. Also, go to Main Street into City Hall and tell them you want it open. They take complaints seriously there. I said I wanted Tiki Room merchandise again and filed a complaint. Apparently the girl at the shop said people always ask for it, and it sold pretty well. But the Submarine ride was working. As for World, it's pretty much a week trip. I will do it again someday, but for the LA visitor, Disneyland is a good place for a visit even if you can't see it all in a day! Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 07 Jul 1998 04:56:39 -0600 At 13:38 06/07/98 EDT, you wrote: > >> Then you could walk into your >>local Goodwill or Salvation Army and pick up all the Sergio Mendes and= Herb >>Alpert you want in near mint condition for a buck each. If you get lucky, >>you'll get a Claudine, too. >Excuse me, not to niggle, however---who you people kidding? >it seems to me that you'd have to search Goodwills & Salv Armies day and= night >to find a REALLY near-mint copy of Mendes / Claudine etc. Virtually all= these >shops get mostly trash-can quality vinyl, & they cram them in with the beat= up >telephones and electronic junk or (maybe worse) stack 'em on the floor= where >they get kicked/knocked over periodically.=20 Honest. I've found these in thrift stores and I spend so little time in America. And I've found them in excellent shape, brought them back for my friends who were ready to pay =A315 for them (that's about $22). I can't go= on enough about the joy of thrifting. The shops here just don't have the quality merchandise you get stateside. That is what hurts me about living in Europe, lack of good bargains. When I hear people Stateside who just don't do it when there are all those untold bargains waiting before them, part of me wants to cry, and part of me rejoices knowing that I will pick these bargains up next time I'm over!!!! Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The All Seeing I Date: 07 Jul 1998 08:08:06 EDT In a message dated 98-07-06 14:38:41 EDT, giovanni@pirulazio.interim.it writes: << Just wanted to say that I have bought a cd single by this group "The All Seeing I" (I don't know anything about them, except that they're from Sheffield, UK) called "Beat Goes On", that - yes - it is a reworked version of the Sonny & Cher classic. Whether I tend to dislike contemporary "Easy" music (Dimitri from Paris, Air, etc.) I find this record do rule! It has a distinct easy flavour, and it is quite danceable too, without sounding any house. Nice lazy girl vocals. Worth a listen, if you should come across. It's out on London Records (ffrr/earth recs.), 570 146-2. PY901. LC7654 (1998). B-side is all-forgettable "Booty In The I" I Think it's their first. Does anyone know something about them? Ciao Gionni >> It is actually their second single...they also do a remix of a Fuzz Townshend single "Smash It Up" (i.e. Bentley Rhythm Ace's drummer's solo project) Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) Reissue woes: (I found this on a message board): Long Date: 07 Jul 1998 09:37:15 -0400 This is probably nothing new to list readers, however, it makes for interesting reading. This is long post and I didn't write it! I'm not an outsider to the music industry, having worked in the wholesale and retail end of things for about 20 years. I also co-ran a reissue label for 45s from 1981 through 1986, so I'm intimately familiar with the vagaries of licensing. The bottom line in all of the licensing considerations is money. Companies have to be able to bring in a reissue package for a price, and if they can't meet that price, then they compromise on the standards that they've set for themselves. It's these compromises that turn collectors off. I can't speak for the rest of the collectors on this forum, but, if one of the labels decided to do a series that featured 20 tracks per disc of hard-to-find stereo material, mastered from the best available sources, and had to charge $20.00 per disc, I'd be there! Another thing that turns collectors off is mastering from vinyl. Most vinyl transfers on current CDs are immediately identifiable as such, yet it doesn't have to be this way. I've been shown by an expert sound engineer (Hi Tom!) that remastering from vinyl does not have to sound bad, and, in most cases, can equal the sound of a tape source. However, this takes time, expertise, and money. The labels don't want to put such resources into their catalog divisions. Small entrepreneurs who do have the time, equipment, and dedication, and are willing to do the work are closed out of the market by ridiculous licensing requirements by the majors. Just as an example, the current minimum for licensing a track from WEA is an up-front payment for 20,000 pieces, and that's just for a standard, production master. If you want a tape vault search done for a better master, then the cost per unit goes up considerably. The other majors have similiar, albeit smaller, requirements, but none are less than 10,000 pieces. The average cost per piece is about $0.15, which leads to an initial per-track cost of anywhere between $1500.00 and $3000.00. This does not include the mechanical, or songwriter, royalties of $0.07 per track, which adds another $700.00 to $1400.00 to the per-track costs. Multiply that by the number of tracks on the CD and you're starting to talk six or seven figures, without even thinking about manufacturing and packaging costs. This is sick, and shows just how little the majors care about the reissue market. About the only ones who can afford these minimums are the mass marketers like Westwood Promotions (Sessions) and Time-Life/Heartland (owned/controlled by WEA), who put out average product at best. No wonder alternate source providers exist. Although some of them are money-grubbing, profiteering thieves that put out shoddy product, others help to fill a large void in the marketplace. However, I have yet to meet the collector who would settle for a package from TNT, Radiola, Marginal, or CamPark when an equivalent package could be had from a legitimate source. With respect to the difficulties encountered by the reissue labels when putting together their packages, all I can say is that, in my humble opinion, it would be better to shelve the project than to put out a mediocre item that won't sell. This just feeds into a self-fulfilling prophecy that there's no money in reissues. I can foresee the time when the reissue market will be dominated by imports, even more so than it is now. The major labels will have gobbled up all of the older, independent label catalogs and, with their absurd licensing demands, will have forced the small reissue specialist labels out of business. I apologize for the length of this message, but allow me to close with an anecdote. When I was working with one of the major labels back in 1984 to get a particular 45 pressed, the special markets person with whom I was working told me that we'd have to press a minimum of 5000 pieces to get the license. Now, at that time, 5000 pieces was a pretty hefty order for a single. I asked the label contact how they had arrived at that number. He told me, off the record, that it had been selected by the VP of special markets in an attempt to discourage me from pursuing the matter. It didn't! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "VIC RUGH" Subject: (exotica) Brad's boogiosity Date: 07 Jul 1998 10:02:15 CDT Last week, Brad (spaceagepop@earthlink.net) wrote "I'm tempted to put together a comp of nothing but killer tunes like these that will drive listeners into a non-stop dance frenzy leading into a higher level of consciousness and boogiosity. "Any suggestions of other tunes from the rest of you out in exotica-land?" There is an album that probably has no particular appeal to exotica fans. It features Doc Severinsen and a bunch of other instrumentalists of that caliber playing "big band" arrangements with (I believe it was) the Cincinnati Symphony Orch. There is an arrangement of "Caravan" that will affect whomever I play it for! At least enough to lose train of thought in a conversation or tap fingers on table or do some controlled shifting in the chair. . . It just has a cadence, with a hand-clap on the four beat, that seems to loosen something inside most folks. (Okay, so that does not approach non-stop frenzy. Hey, frenzy has gotta stop sometime!) Another cut I enjoy on that CD is "Let's Dance," which was Benny Goodman's theme song. The arrangement will get into pretty much of a well-crafted cover of the original BG sound, but first the clarinetist (Eddy Daniels) does this waltz solo (it is NOT a waltz tune) which sounds sorta baroque and courtly and gives me visions of white wigs and ladies in those hooped skirts, with their hair in ringlets, you know? The men bow to the ladies and say, "Let's dance!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MUV96TBD@Student2.lu.se (Al Nino) Subject: Re: (exotica) Kontiki III - the museum expedition, Part 2 Date: 07 Jul 1998 18:02:51 +0100 >abilities. In a country where a bottle of beer costs as much as a Trader Vic's >cocktail in other countries getting stinko is pure luxury. No, getting stinko in Sweden isn't luxury, cheap home-brewed moonshine is *the* keyword here :) Of course, that's something I wouldn't recommend to all you sensible swingers out there, heheehe... Al Nino "Honesty is great and groovy and kicks all rolled into one big mind-blower. No one should be without it" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Lounge forever Date: 07 Jul 1998 12:10:59 -0400 > >>Anyway, I do have the feeling that swing may be rapidly displacing > >>"lounge" > >> Nothing will *replace* lounge. Lounge is lounge period! > > Certainly this is a true statement, since in order for lounge to be > "replaced," the whole lot of us will have to stop listening to lounge and > start listening to swing. Y'know, that was not the intent of my original statement, which (to restore to its full length) was: "Anyway, I do have the feeling that swing may be rapidly displacing "lounge" as the new non-rock trend that the media writes about and the industry pushes." I was NOT saying "lounge" itself is dead. I WAS saying that I have the feeling that the mass media & major label interest is moving on to the next shiny object that catches its eye. Which doesn't necessarily have that much to do with us, other than to the extent that it affects our supply lines. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Horst Jankowski R.I.P. Date: 07 Jul 1998 14:46:07 +0200 >From: Moritz R >Recordings > > The Genius of Jankowski, Mercury SR-60993 > More Genius of Jankowski, Mercury SR-61054 > Still More Genius of Jankowski, Mercury SR-61076 > So, What's New?, Mercury SR-61093 > Baby, But Grand!, Mercury SR-21106 > And We Got Love, Mercury SR-61160 > * Piano Affairs, SR-61195 > * Jankowski Plays Jankowski, Mercury SR-61219 > Enjoy Jankowski, Mercury/Wing SRW-16385 > With Love, Mercury SR-61125 > * A Walk in the Evergreens, Mercury SR-61232 the ones marked with a * are featured on the brand new Motor CD/LP "Black forest explosion! (The fantastic piano sounds of Horst Jankowski; his very best recordings 1968-1973)" plus (not mentioned in the discography above, unless they are the same records released in the US under different titles...) "For nightpeople only" (MPS 14 274, 1970) "the many moods of Horst Jankowski" (Mercury 138 113, 1968) "Follow me" (Intercord 28 503, 1972) "Jankowskeynotes" (MPS 14 269, 1970) "Horst Jankowski International" (Intercord 28 555 U, 1973) "Alexander II" (single) The music is tastefull, mostly uptempo, bright & smooth brass EZ, with jazz and bossa nova influences. Only about 4 tracks feature his wordless Singers prominently. Covers of "Pata pata", "Mais que nada", "Light my fire" with German lyrics, and "Shaft", which starts out as a faitful repro, but then halfway Horst gets a bit wild on his piano and turns the piece in someting new. If you liked his track on the "Get easy, the German pops collection" compilation cd, you'll like this cd/lp too. Recommended! Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed records Date: 07 Jul 1998 13:45:02 EDT In a message dated 98-07-06 13:56:16 EDT, you write: > > Oh, yeah? My brother had a Jim Steranko comic book cover autographed by me > when I was five. > I'm in a jealous rage!! CC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Autographed records Date: 07 Jul 1998 13:50:13 EDT In a message dated 98-07-06 14:32:06 EDT, you write: > arn't you formally a "yankee dog"? i thought you moved to fla from some " > cooler, northern climate". > Yep, you're right--but I was indeed born in the South (South Bronx), consider myself a Los Angeles person (38 years there). Wanted to say "saracen pigs" but felt it was too harsh..........no idea what the point of all this was-- probably was very late at night. Best regards Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) The inherently un-cool (was Tiki Lites / swing / Date: 07 Jul 1998 14:38:44 -0500 >At 01:24 PM 7/5/98 -0500, recliner wrote: > >>When asked "What kind of music do you like?" those who reply: "I like all >>kinds of music" are inherently un-cool. >> >>Am I too mean? > >I don't know about "mean," but may I argue with you, Frank? I fail to see >why "lik[ing] all kinds of music" makes one "inherently un-cool." Could >you explain a bit more? First of all let me say that the nature of the post was not in the same vein of seriousness was apparently read into it. I meant only playful generalizations and a mocking at the use of the term "cool". >I'm sure that the spirit animating your post is that anyone who devotes >enough time to being thorough in collecting will necessarily be more "cool" >(knowledgeable/trendsetter/whatever) than those with broader tastes (the >so-called "dupes," "dabblers," and "trend followers" whom you necessarily >assume will be less "obsessive," or thorough, which is not an assumption I >would make). We of the modern era have consistently showed a facination with obsessive people. Whether they be a genius or a serial murderer, we are intrigued by this life.There is a strong feeling whether we are repulsed or attracted to it. When I said obsession=cool it was an acknowledgement of this feeling. > But this kind of insular thinking seems, to me, to be >remarkably close to the kinds of attitudes that foster nationalism, racism, >xenophobia (I am NOT accusing you of such things): "Here's my space, I own >it, nobody else can get in." This seems to fly in the face of what music >is generally, and what "exotica" represents more specifically. If what you >say represents a truism for fans of particular genres (and I'm afraid it >often does), it's little surprise to me that so many people with similar >interests (i.e., music) have so little to talk about except what they just >scored, or how their "collections" are coming along, etc. I can't quite follow all the thoughts packed in here but, it seems to be a narrow focus of genre as "my iterest uber alles" whereas I think of genre as more open ended and passive: genre as a "focused interest" not simply the exclusion of all else. I love "exoctica" and I don't quite care for "swing" (I loathe the Squirril Nut Zippers). BUT, I wont rule out something just because it's popularly defined genre is not exotica. >I got interested in "exotica" because it seems inclusionary, not >exclusionary, in every way. I was hoping we'd gotten past name-calling and >territorial games. We have, but if you're gonna look for it whre it ain't...you're gonna find it. Whew,this response was too much like work! Sorry to bog down the usually carefree happy tone of the list. Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 07 Jul 1998 14:38:48 -0500 > Sure, there's a >NM in there once in awhile, but what about the dozens you had to pass on? I >mean, what's your time/gas/wear/tear worth? Yes, absolutely! The search is one of the great parts of record acquisition. I have some great *war* stories. I can tell you where I got 90% of my records and with some of them the thrill of the chase was definitely worth it. I'ts not all cheery. Two weeks ago I stopped a a flea market and looked through their 500+ LPs and there were so many water dammaged covers and hockey puck vinyl that I almost started to cry. Then last week I went to a Salvation Army and waded through the piles of vinyl not in covers and totally raggedy covers to find about 15-20 very nice LPs all in vg+ condition (indeed I was amazed at the quality, some were in those extra special lined sleeves.) The picks of this find were Sir Julian's 13 fingers of..., Enoch Light's Action (Project3), Gene Bianco,The Note Worthies and Pete Terrace's dance percussion all for 50 cents a piece If I measured the cash value of the time I spend doing things I enjoy I probably wouldn't be on this mailing list. Always on the prowl, Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) The inherently un-cool: like a limp handshake Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:03:43 EDT In a message dated 98-07-07 00:01:45 EDT, gmatting@dnai.com writes: << >I didn't think this was a discussion of people who say "I like lots of >different genres" and mean that they love Coltrane and Yo La Tengo and >Blind Willie Johnson and Al Green and the Palace Brothers and the Louvin >Brothers and Gary McFarland and Perez Prado and Henry Mancini. . . I read this and I thought, well, that's why I usually say I like lots of music. Hm, I may say almost everything. I suppose I should be a bit more rigorous and say I like good music, no matter what the genre. >> As must as I'm a subscriber to the idea that if someone that says they like everything is just making a "cop out" or is a wishy-wash, like a limp handshake. You would think such a person has absolutely no taste because they can't show allegiance to one or two genres. Then I stop myself for a minute and remember the eclecticism of my own tastes. I like a quite a few genres of music like 70's-style disco, pop-punk (yep, I'm still listening to it altho not keeping up with the latest local bands), some 70's rock, etc.... But in response to a question like what kind of music... I'd NEVER say I like everything - after all, that's just too wishy-washy. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Beanie Babies as Lounge Lizards Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:03:36 EDT In a message dated 98-07-06 14:27:11 EDT, you write: << << You should see Freckles the leopard "lounging" in his martini glass, or spinning Martin Denny tunes sitting on the center of the turntable! Too precious for you to appreciate, I'm afraid! >> what i can appreciate is that i am now nauseous. and it ain't from the spinning record. >> A friend at work gave me one for my birthday. it is a racoon and he lounges on my computer screen. They have a unique ability to "lounge" because they are filled with beans like a bean bag. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Not dead yet??... Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:03:49 EDT In a message dated 98-07-07 02:42:39 EDT, mtoth@neo.lrun.com writes: << But again, it's the Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, and Wayne Newton variety of "lounge," which never really captivated me. I'm much more taken by the whole Esquivel, Three Suns, Dean Elliott, Arthur Lyman, etc. Space Age Pop scene, which I thought has given way to the Rat Pack and swing stuff whose appeal I felt lay in their broad familiarity and nostalgia aspects. >> I'm sure you are right about that, but on the other hand, the notoriety surely will convert new fans and perhaps those people will get bored and start exploring the real space age music... - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Who's kidding who? Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:03:32 EDT In a message dated 98-07-06 13:42:09 EDT, ChuckTFrog@aol.com writes: << Excuse me, not to niggle, however---who you people kidding? it seems to me that you'd have to search Goodwills & Salv Armies day and night to find a REALLY near-mint copy of Mendes / Claudine etc. Virtually all these shops get mostly trash-can quality vinyl, & they cram them in with the beat up telephones and electronic junk or (maybe worse) stack 'em on the floor where they get kicked/knocked over periodically. >> Yeah, that almost NEVER happens! I couldn't agree with you more! I never see anything in that good of quality when I've looked. Anyone who's a records connoseur (ie., a person who's been taking care of their albums, is not going to let his stuff end up at the Good Will - I mean he's not going to just toss it.) I figure most of the stuff you see at the thrifts are from your average Joe Shmoe homeowner who had pretty pedestrian tastes and didn't know how to take care of vinyl. Of course occassionally some old collector-type person who's hoarded his albums all these years and had taken good care of them does die and his stupid family "dumps" his collection at the Goodwill. But for the most part, the average person's records are at the thrifts, not the collector's. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The inherently un-cool (was Tiki Lites / swing / etc) Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:03:41 EDT In a message dated 98-07-06 18:21:48 EDT, rsloane@uiuc.edu writes: << If what you say represents a truism for fans of particular genres (and I'm afraid it often does), it's little surprise to me that so many people with similar interests (i.e., music) have so little to talk about except what they just scored, or how their "collections" are coming along, etc. >> I'll probably get flamed for agreeing with you here... as everyone well knows, I HATE those thrift store finds lists and love to talk about the "issues". But lately we've been talking alot more about issues and a lot LESS about people's scores. So I'm happy with that. In support of your opinion, - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Who's met who? Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:03:25 EDT In a message dated 98-07-06 08:22:42 EDT, Moritz.Reichelt@munich.netsurf.de writes: << Next day it started to rain. With our plastic coats we explored the city and met Stefan Kery of Subliminal Sounds and Magnus Sandberg, both respected members of the Exotica list. It was the first time in my life I ever encountered someone I only had known via the electronic media before and it was not a disappointment. >> Maybe no one will want to divulge but I thought it might make an interesting thread - I've met both Brother Cleve and DJ Jimmy Boticelli, members of the list, in person. Has anyone else met anyone on the list that they didn't already know previously? (For example Otto of Tiki News and I have known each other before ever being on this list) I think it is really neat to meet other list members in person. I only wish I travelled more so I could meet more of you! - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Kontiki III - the museum expedition, Part 2 Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:03:40 EDT In a message dated 98-07-06 16:34:56 EDT, bruno@yhammer.com writes: << I guess I thought that a bunch of people who discuss the relative merits of often long-forgotten, discarded and disregarded records wouldn't be referring to each other as "the honourable member from wherever". (And don't bother with the replies "Yes there are respected members but you're not one of them!" Last time I heard that, I fell off my dinosaur laughing.) >> What's the matter with being nice? - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:14:35 -0400 At 04:56 AM 07/07/98 -0600, Jill Mingo wrote: > I can't go on enough about the joy of thrifting. When I hear people Stateside who just don't>do it when there are all those untold bargains waiting before them, part of me wants to cry, and part of me rejoices knowing that I will pick these >bargains up next time I'm over!!!! < Granted I don't live Stateside myself and I also have fantasies about some American city I'll someday end up in and I'll hit the thrift store motherlode. For some reason Cleveland often comes to mind but that's partly because I have a record obsessive friend there. But I think it goes in waves and sometimes the waves don't come back to shore for a long time. All it takes is for one person in that town to want the same records you do and that one person, who might just be lurking on this list, can upset the whole balance for you. The thrift store where I found Martin Denny's, Stereo Action's, lots of Command stuff and even an Esquivel was a goldmine for about six months and then the last two times I went, the well was dry. The other thing is, you can't go to a thrift store with the express purpose of finding a particular record. I'm sure I'm not telling anybody anything they don't know there. Here in Toronto, Claudine Longet is not sitting waiting in every thrift store but I have picked up two of her albums "there" over the years. Call me a mystic but I think that the day I went in there with the express purpose of finding Billy Joel's "The Stranger" - or for that matter Sheena Easton, Juice Newton, Nana Mouskouri, Roger Whittaker, Frank Mill's "Music Box Dancer" - on that day they wouldn't be there either. (And that would be the only day they weren't. Add Lester Lanin to that list.) If you expanded the territory to include used record stores and five bucks instead of fifty cents, yeah then I could probably find you Claudine's and a lot of other things you're talking about. But I think the original post-er here should count herself lucky that when she gets Stateside, her karma is good and she gets there on the right day at the right moment and thus makes out like a bandit. I don't think you can do that everyday and if anyone knows a place where you can, well you won't tell me where it is anyway, will you? Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's kidding who? Date: 07 Jul 1998 14:39:06 -0600 A ><< Excuse me, not to niggle, however---who you people kidding? > it seems to me that you'd have to search Goodwills & Salv Armies day and >night > to find a REALLY near-mint copy of Mendes / Claudine etc. >Yeah, that almost NEVER happens! I couldn't agree with you more! I never see >anything in that good of quality when I've looked. Anyone who's a records >connoseur (ie., a person who's been taking care of their albums, is not going >to let his stuff end up at the Good Will - I mean he's not going to just toss >it.) You have to LOOK. That is the FUN. And people who take care of their music do DIE. Yes, strange as it may seem, they often die and their things wind up at Goodwill. A friend of mine found about 30 tikis in Hollywood at Out of the Closet about a year ago. This is a thrift store devoted to HIV/AIDS. This is unfortunately a disease that young people often die from. Not just 90 year old grannies. I know a lot of people that on principle take their records to thrift stores because they score so much there. You must remember, most people buying Baxter records were hardly hardcore collectors. They were fans of current popular music, which exotica was once upon a time. And people who were buying these records at the time do occasionally die. Get in touch with your own mortality is my advice and go thrifting! Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's met who? Date: 07 Jul 1998 14:39:17 -0600 ><< Next day it started to rain. With our plastic coats we explored the city >and > met Stefan Kery of Subliminal Sounds and Magnus Sandberg, both respected > members of the Exotica list. It was the first time in my life I ever > encountered someone I only had known via the electronic media before and it > was not a disappointment. >> > >Maybe no one will want to divulge but I thought it might make an interesting >thread - I've met both Brother Cleve and DJ Jimmy Boticelli, members of the >list, in person. Has anyone else met anyone on the list that they didn't >already know previously? (For example Otto of Tiki News and I have known each >other before ever being on this list) Actually, I travel quite a bit, have met the Michele who started this thread and Moritz, who mentioned meeting Stefan Kery. I could go on quite a bit about the other members I've met, but I fear it might be a bit boring or seem a bit "bragging" since I travel a lot or for fear of forgetting a few while listing since I've met so many (10 or more), but it gives me great pleasure to make friends around the world - and even on my doorstep - my sometimes DJing partner Robbie Baldock and I met over this list! Getting to know other people and sharing fondness of vinyl (or CDs) is what this is all about for me. So in the immortal words of the Free Design, "thank you all, thank you all, all all..." Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) A&M needs to get with it Date: 07 Jul 1998 14:47:48 -0600 >> I can't go on enough about the joy of thrifting. >Granted I don't live Stateside myself and I also have fantasies about some >American city I'll someday end up in and I'll hit the thrift store motherlode. >For some reason Cleveland often comes to mind but that's partly because I >have a record obsessive friend there. Actually, the least hip cities usually provide more gems hanging around in their record stores, but not necessarily in their thrifts because people in that city were unhip at the time these were hip so there aren't as many hip things floating around in dead people's houses if that makes any sense! But you can still score! >The other thing is, you can't go to a thrift store with the express purpose >of finding a particular record. Very true... >If you expanded the territory to include used record stores and five bucks >instead of fifty cents, yeah then I could probably find you Claudine's and >a lot of other things you're talking about. Definitely. And cities off the beaten path are usually where you get your Claudines for $5. > >But I think the original post-er here should count herself lucky that when >she gets Stateside, her karma is good and she gets there on the right day >at the right moment and thus makes out like a bandit. Must clarify. I don't make out like a bandit when I go over, but considering how little time I spend over there, just finding one or two good thrift finds - like Three Suns "Movin' and Groovin'" with stereo action cover for $1 or "Tamboo" and "Ritual of the Savage" for 95 cents in LA - is what I consider a good haul. Frankly I think that about 95 percent of what people post as a score on this list is total crap - I see this stuff all the time in thrift stores (no names or titles mentioned - no flames) and wonder why they aren't a little embarrassed to post it - but one man's score is another man's trash. And usually within each person's score list is one fairly good one - maybe even one total FIND! Which gives me hope that they CAN be found, but you gotta look. And look. And look. Which I'm sure the people who score do frequently. So those who are anti-thrifting and think it's a waste of time - Thank you! I'll gladly come to you city and post my next score with pride! Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Who's kidding who? -Reply Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:42:20 -0400 <> Bullshit. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's kidding who? Date: 07 Jul 1998 13:49:22 +0000 Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 98-07-06 13:42:09 EDT, ChuckTFrog@aol.com writes: > > << Excuse me, not to niggle, however---who you people kidding? > it seems to me that you'd have to search Goodwills & Salv Armies day and > night > to find a REALLY near-mint copy of Mendes / Claudine etc. Well, yeah... but that's the fun of it for me. Garage Sales and Thrift Shops are a passion of mine. Yes, it can be fruitless at times, but I have found some EXCELLENT vinyl in minty-mint condition. Sergio Mendes is EVERYWHERE here in San Jose, by the way. I also avoid a lot of the thrift shops for the same reasons. If records are stacked of look ragged, I won't bother. > I figure most of the stuff you see at the thrifts are from your average > Joe Shmoe homeowner who had pretty pedestrian tastes and didn't know how to > take care of vinyl. ...... But for > the most part, the average person's records are at the thrifts, not the > collector's. Well remember, the "Average" record collection in the 50's/60's would contain a lot of interesting stuff! Beyond that, there are thousands of reasons perfectly good stuff ends up at the thrift stores, and it all comes down to the randomness that we call luck. Furthermore, collectors might have been tempted to overlook or discard some things that I prize. I am attracted to the really bizarre stuff, religious records, hypnotism, instructional vinyl (especially belly dancing) "straight talk" for teens, kids records, etc... Thrifts are the place for this sort of thing (second only to Church-sponsored fundraising sales.)The pickings get better once you've learned what to look for and have some favorite places. I have found it's helpful to get friendly with the staff at the shops - I have gotten to go in the back and pick through records not on the shelves, or tips about when the record shelves get refilled. I understand that for some people there is nothing interesting about picking through dusty thrift stores - especially when there are so many excellent sources for "the good stuff." For me, this is one of those things where the journey has become it's own reward. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) show and weep Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:56:05 -0400 You know, even when you don't really have friends coming over all that much anymore and even when the friends who do come over aren't likely to look at your records, you still have that idea in your head - or at least I do - when you pick up a cool record that somebody will like seeing it. Thankfully this isn't my whole motivation but the funny thing is that being on this list has somewhat revived that aspect of my thought-process. So last night I was in my favourite used-record store and somehow they had gotten to the middle of their summer half-price vinyl week without my knowing. The pickings in the new arrivals section where I usually have to make some hard decisions, were slim. So I hit the bins - the backlog - which I usually ignore. I found a couple of jazzy things and even a Doc Watson, misfiled with the jazz. But it wasn't enough for me. Not during a half-price sale! So partly influenced by the constant thread of cool soundtracks on this list - and despite my own well-established anti-soundtrack leanings - I hit the soundtrack bins. I ended up passing on the seemingly rare Les Baxter soundtrack because I knew I would only be buying it to show YOU. (At half price, it was $3.50) And I passed on the King of Hearts soundtrack even though it brought back memories of the time when that was the big "date movie" in my life. Cut to the end of the story... Having heard what I bought, I'm trying to drum the message into my head. NEVER AGAIN buy anything motivated by the thought of showing those damn fellow exotica-listers! Boy do I feel ripped off. And disappointed in myself. I should have looked more closely at Steve Rossi "The Last of the Secret Agents" (which was sealed by the way). I saw the words "secret agents", the name of Nancy Sinatra and the pictures of her on both sides of the cover and thought "wow they'll like this!" (If you don't remember "Allen and Rossi", the ahem, comedy team, well maybe someone will tell you about them.) Anyway, yes there was a film with Allen and Rossi and Nancy S. and I assume it was some kind of updated "Abbott and Costello meet James Bond" and maybe that soundtrack would have been cool. But this wasn't it. It's just a record of Steve Rossi, in his stentorian tones, singing a bunch of songs. The "hit song" from the movie and "11 other favorites". Also disappointing were the soundtracks to "Made for Each Other" (despite the presence of Vince Bell on one cut), "Advise and Consent" (despite the cool cover, Otto Preminger and Jerry Fielding), "Grand Prix" (maybe one cut could make it onto a tape) and even "The themes from Ben Casey" (and Dr.Kildare etc.) is rather tepid for a sixties TV theme record. Lucky that Mancini Generation record was hiding down there. And hey "Percussive Jazz Vol 2" (you know with the hypodermic needle and the "doctored for super-stereo") is much much better than volume one. And Mel Torme's "A time for us" with "Games People Play". There's something about the way Mel does those tunes he never should have - like Sunshine Superman - that is in a class by itself. I'm never buying a record for you people again. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's kidding who? Date: 07 Jul 1998 17:19:15 -0400 At 04:03 PM 07/07/98 EDT, Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > I figure most of the stuff you see at the thrifts are from your average >Joe Shmoe homeowner who had pretty pedestrian tastes and didn't know how to >take care of vinyl. Of course occassionally some old collector-type person >does die and his stupid family "dumps" his collection at the Goodwill. Yeah I like it on the rare occasion that a collector's records show up. But I have to say that it's the very fact that Joe Shmoe did own these records that is a big part of the attraction for me. The collector probably had "better" records and they were better kept but I prefer Joe Shmoe's records. (Not ALL his records of course.) I love the idea that Joe Shmoe had these Mancini's and Denny's and that record with the babe on the cover that he hid from his wife and the Don Ho record they bought on vacation in Hawaii and that they were just shoved in the record cabinet and hardly ever played and eventually they were shoved onto the junk heap and now I've come along and reclaimed them, given them new life. I sort of thought that was a big part of the point here. Three cheers for Joe Shmoe. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) About thrift stores... Date: 07 Jul 1998 17:27:45 -0400 I have just started doing the thrift/garage thing recently (my mother had an antique store, so genes may be to blame!) and I am suprised at some of the things I find. I have no delusions of finding Stormy Weather by the Five Sharps, however, what if I did? Records fascinate me. There was a label, I believe that it was based in the Appalachian mountain area that guaranteed "No Harps [harmonicas]" on the label. Talk about target marketing! Not every label is a blatant sociological statement, some are. This is what I call fun. I will not enter the argument of post finds/don't post finds, because having been born a person of color, I found out that I already did something someone didn't like, so I am used to not pleasing everyone. I like them, because Laura Taylor said I should subscribe and I did on the knowledge of precisely TWO names: Yma Sumac and Les Baxter (whose real name is, of course, Sel Retxab). I now know more, thanks in part to those lists, the other being flat out asking people. We all have to start somewhere. As for the posting of issues as opposed to Thrift Scores, I have nothing against it, although certain aspects I simply cannot associate with (I don't drink, very rarely go out, save restaurants and I dance AWFULLY). So the music will have to do for me. Thrift stores are like people. I find interesting things in some, others I don't. Some friends of mine have found many, MANY things (not just records) there and their house looks great. Good record collection, too! I'm with Jill Mingo, I get excited about certain records, others leave me cold. I also like a good joke, as long as I don't have to shell out too much for it (I would never pay 30 dollars for all of Shooby Taylor's recordings!). Nice talking to all of you and that WAS talking, not fussing. Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eb Subject: (exotica) vinyl mastering/Longet Date: 07 Jul 1998 14:25:04 -0700 >From: "Brian Phillips" > >Another thing that turns collectors off is mastering from vinyl. Most vinyl >transfers on current CDs are immediately identifiable as such, yet it >doesn't have to be this way. I've been shown by an expert sound engineer (Hi >Tom!) that remastering from vinyl does not have to sound bad, and, in most >cases, can equal the sound of a tape source. However, this takes time, >expertise, and money. A few months ago, I acquired two You've Got Foetus on Your Breath CD reissues (Deaf and Ache) which were mastered from vinyl and sound absolutely *wonderful*. In other news, the Claudine Longet site is undergoing a major reformatting. Check http://users.deltanet.com/~gondola/longet/ (or http://users.deltanet.com/~gondola/longet/index.html) . And if you link to this site on your own webpage (Vik, Johan, Valerie/Peter, M. Ace, Dean, etc.), please update your links to the new URL. Thanks. Eb, writing probably the only tandem Claudine Longet/Jim Thirlwell post in the history of mankind # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) The inherently un-cool: like a limp handshake Date: 07 Jul 1998 17:28:56 -0400 At 04:03 PM 07/07/98 EDT, Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > >But in response to a question like what kind of music... I'd NEVER say I like >everything - after all, that's just too wishy-washy. It's a hard question to answer and an annoying one to be asked. And so is "what's your favourite movie?" But the horrible truth is that I've caught myself asking the same questions. The questions I hate to get myself. Just like I hate it when someone meets me at a party and immediately after the handshake asks "What do YOU do?" But I think I've even done that too. I don't think I've ever answered the music question with "I like everything" but I probably have said "Oh I don't know. I like A LOT of things". And of course it depends who's asking. And sometimes I just say "jazz" which is the equivalent for me of saying "I'm fine, how are you?" But yeah, as much as I understand how someone with eclectic tastes can try to take the easy/lazy way out and say "everything", in my experience that response comes much more often from those who like most anything in approximately equal measures. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: Re: (exotica) chris montez Date: 07 Jul 1998 22:44:03 +0100 At 03:16 02/07/98 -0600, you wrote: >what is this guy about musically? somehow i cant score (well ...) >his lp's in the bargin bins. I saw this guy in concert ('stars of the 60's') in the mid 90's and he was very good. Although he must be in his 50's he has worn very well. Looks a sort of cross between Richie Valens and Herb Alpert. Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: buMp Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's met who? Date: 07 Jul 1998 17:56:31 -0400 (EDT) > > I think it is really neat to meet other list members in person. I only wish I > travelled more so I could meet more of you! > i have been thinking about this also... i have been lurking for a while now and i really do not know the whole history of this newsgroup, but has there ever been a "convention" of sorts? i am only dreaming when i say everyone should meet for an annual or bi-annual "rendezvous" at some EXOTIC locale. bump # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Record obsessive Date: 07 Jul 1998 18:19:14 EDT Mr. Smooth says; << after that, the ones with excellent covers get the mylar bags (open side up) and then they get inserted properly on the shelves (alphabetical/label number order of course). >> and how about the inner sleeves? Do they face in the same direction (up)? Meaning you would have to slide out the entire sleeve to remove the LP. Or does the opening of the innie face in the same direction as the jacket opening so the record slips out easily? That's how I do it, because it means less handling. There was a time when i did have them face up, because I thought they were more protected from dust. You know, tucked away safe and sound. I even experimented with NOT putting the record and inner sleeve inside the jacket at all, but inserting them between the jacket and protective sleeve, which by the way I must have on hand at all times. I have similar rituals. Many of you may be shocked by this, but I was my records in the sink like a dish. Gentle, circular motions with cold water (do not use hot!), a drop of rubbing alcohol and dishwashing liquid. Rinse thoroughly and air dry in the Rubbermaid rack. Pat the label dry to avoid water marks. Most labels don't mind the water, but some will BLEED! After ten minutes of air dry, finish off with clean, soft towel and slide your platter lovingly into a fresh innie. Then into the jacket, which has had any stickers removed earlier with the same lighter fluid trick. The album is now ready for shelving. It is sexy and I love it. Next time, I'd like to talk about my obsessive, compulsive buying habits and how I NEVER stop thinking about what I am going to purchase next. the only two (ex)members I have met, by the way, are Preston Peek and my mentor, Jack Diamond. And I sure miss Jessica. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Yost" Subject: (exotica) WOJ (writing on jacket) Date: 07 Jul 1998 18:07:13 PDT Byron ("Mr. Smooth") commented a while back how he rather likes some forms of writing on old record jackets and labels, like when it is the former owner's name or if there is a personal comment about the record. I've noticed that a lot of people in the '60s seemed to put those return address labels on their records. It seems to suggest that people either loaned out their LPs frequently, or that they took them to parties at other peoples' houses, etc. I find those addresses to be kind of entertaining, because so often they're from an entirely different part of the country, and it is somewhat intriguing to think about what is at those addresses now, i.e., is it still the same house, or is it a strip mall or restaurant or something else now? I also not infrequently see notes that people wrote on their albums when at some point they made cassette tapes of them, specifying the "good" songs and "bad" songs, or tempos, and the like. Sometimes they are quite detailed. A recent favorite incident of WOJ from my collection is a copy of Lew Davies's "Two Pianos & Twenty Voices" on Command. The former owner made the sardonic comment on the back of the LP: "2 pianos just may not be sufficient for dancing." Guess it wasn't slamming enough for their needs. Finally, to Pea Hicks who talked about how he liked coming across incredibly personal things about peoples' lives in thrift stores, about two years ago in one thrift store I saw an entire shelf full of probably 60+ coffee mugs from one of those places that puts photographs and your personal caption on mugs. The mugs they donated to the thrift store all had some (usually slight) flaw with the print process. Taken together, these mugs exuded a palpable creepiness, what with the pictures of total strangers (often smudged or blurred), coupled with captions such as "To the best Grandpa in the World" and such. I mean, who would buy these random mugs and then take them home and bring beverages to their lips in them??? (Of course, in hindsight I sort of regret not buying them just for weirdness value and the thought of displaying them in some creative way). -- Brad Yost # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's met who? Date: 08 Jul 1998 00:50:59 +0000 > i am only dreaming when i say everyone should meet for an annual or > bi-annual "rendezvous" at some EXOTIC locale.=20 How about Teneriffa? BTW: The Pop Komm in K=F6ln (Cologne, Germany) starts on the 13th of Augu= st and ends on the 16th. I will be there (Halle 13.2, Reihe H 081) presenting my book. I heard that some list members want to go there. It's Europe's bigg= est music fair. Of course Motor will also have a stand. There will be gigs in= all the clubs in town all the time. I'm trying to find out more information a= bout Exotica-related events. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: (exotica) Re: Who's kidding who? Date: 07 Jul 1998 15:55:28 PDT >Excuse me, not to niggle, however---who you people kidding? >it seems to me that you'd have to search Goodwills & Salv Armies day >and night to find a REALLY near-mint copy of Mendes / Claudine etc. I have found _some_ great records, in good condition, at thrift stores, so I guess it's a question of luck and geography. But... and I'm only letting the cat out of the bag because the one I used to go to is already over for this year.... I have found most of my good, cheap records at a AAUW (Association of American University Women) book sale held annually at my old college. Most people there were trying to grab the first edition novels, so it was always relatively empty in the back where the record bins were, and condition-wise, everything was great (I think they must have declined to accept any moth-eaten hockey pucks.), and except for the fact that a local record store owner volunteered there every year just so he could weed out any jazz records pre-sale, there were some real gems. I think the AAUW is a national group so they probably have sales all over the place. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: (exotica) Re: The inherently un-cool: like a limp handshake Date: 07 Jul 1998 15:47:32 PDT This whole thread reminds me of a conversation I had a while back with a friend, which boiled down to "these kids today have it easy" because in our day [granted, I'm 23, so I'm talking 5 to 7 years ago :) ] you had to really do some hunting and research to find your niche in some musical subculture thingy - reading fanzines, looking in the under-the-table bins at the back of the used record shops, scouring your parents' records for good stuff, sifting through the junk at the thrift store - and in the process you learned a lot about all these subgenres of music (punk, post-punk, pop-punk, ska, indie, exotica, SABPM, post-rock before it was called that, blah blah blah). And then today's young rebels seem more inclined to listen to "whatever's on the radio" or on sale at Tower Records. I remember that the kids like that in my age group were always into hard rock or 80s hits because that's what was on the radio, but now the noncomittal people are into ska, or swing, or alternative, or something with more of an accompanying clothing style and assorted trappings, because it's easier to do that now, without all the research. What a bunch of run-on sentences, but I hope it made sense. If it didn't, sorry, but I'm not prone to ranting so I'm out of practice. Jordana Robinson eero67@geocities.com www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jordana Robinson" Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's met who? Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:00:35 PDT I have _seen_ Jay Schwartz a couple times because he does Secret Cinema locally, but never introduced myself. Any listers in Philly should check out his screenings; they are often like the cinematic equivalent to the kinds of music we all like. It always makes me smile when I notice the other people who, like me, are also on the Modslist or the Peng (Stereolab and related) mailing list, or both. Jordana Robinson eero67@geocities.com www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Russo" Subject: (exotica) Re: Kung Fu Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:19:42 -0700 >> Any more martial arts songs out there? From my file of "Pointless Theme Sets:" Carl Douglas -- "Kung Fu Fighting" and "Dance the Kung Fu" Robyn Hitchcock -- "Kung Fu Fighting" Curtis Mayfield -- "Kung Fu" Robert Lee -- "The Ballad of Kung Fu" National Lampoon -- "Kung Fu Christmas" "Kung Fu" -- Ash Mad Mongols -- "Bruce Fuckin' Lee" Red Aunts -- "Kung Fu Kitten" Banzaii -- "Chinese Kung Fu" Bobb Jarman -- "Hong Kong Flu" Hickoids -- "Corn Fu Fighting" Bedwells -- "Karate Song" (Del-Fi comp) Picanic Basket #3 -- "Hong Kong Phooey" Lung Leg -- "Kung Fu on the Internet" C. "Ratso" Russo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's met who? Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:41:00 PDT Michele wrote: >I think it is really neat to meet other list members in person. I only wish I >travelled more so I could meet more of you! I agree. I guess its time for a trip overseas soon... Would love to meet everyone of you, and also get the oppurtunity to steal some more of your national treasure :) Its getting tougher every day here to find records, today I come home emptyhanded, even though I also took a serious look at the 78s that was offered. Found a Three Suns, some Ron Goodwin, a yodel record, 1 with the Voices of Walter Schumann and others that I have LPs with and adore. Now they were either to pricey, or beat up so i didnt buy any. But it is fun to see earlier documents from these guys. And the hunt is thrilling... You'll never know... Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) It's a small world Date: 08 Jul 1998 01:42:41 +0000 This I found quite funny: http://photo.net/photo/pcd0738/tivoli-easter-island-76.tcl MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) Lionel Hampton Date: 07 Jul 1998 19:09:53 Pacific Daylight Time -------- >From: LASHJ@mail.olin.wustl.edu >To: darren.hutton@gte.net >Subject: Lionel Hampton >Date: July 06, 1998 > >My name is Jeff and I'm a college radio DJ as well as a jazz vibist; >needless to say I was quite excited when I got the word that Lionel >Hampton would be coming to town, playing a rare small-club appearance. >However, I got a message on my answering machine today saying that the >concert, scheduled for tomorrow, was "postponed indefinitely." > >Of course, when this is about a musician who is 90 years old, the first >thing that comes to mind is that he's having health problems, but I >haven't been able to find out anything about if he's okay or when (or >if) it'll be rescheduled. If anyone has seen him recently or knows >anything about his health or why he's postponed shows, I'd really >appreciate it. > >Jeff Lash >DJ, KWUR 90.3 fm >http://kwur.wustl.edu > >P.S. Saw Wynton Marsalis and the Lincoln Center Jazz Orchestra last >night live - the PBS performance doesn't do their sound justice. This >was one of the best concerts I've ever seen. > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: (exotica) Big Thanks! Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:51:21 -0700 Hi everyone, Last week I sent you all the URL for my weekly column, and good god, am I glad! It did really, really well, getting almost twice as many hits as some of the other music-related pages on our site. I'm thrilled to bits, and am hoping to keep up the trend. So, be sure to check back every Thursday, cos I'll continue to try and pick the best live shows and events in the bay area. With time (and enough hits to prove people care) I hope to expand to include music and show reviews. Also, don't hesitate to write in with story ideas. Especially if you know about a Bay Area band that never gets any press... Thanks again!! *jasmine p.s. you received this email because a) you're on a mailing list that I'm on or b) you expressed some interest in indiepop, exotica and other less-talked about music type things. If you want me to stop bugging you, just let me know, and I'll take you right off! - -- -- -- -- -- - Looking for Indiepop / Exotica / Space Bachelor shows, releases and news? Check out the Bay Area's (and beyond) weekly source: http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's met who? Date: 07 Jul 1998 20:00:02 EDT Michele--from now on please refer to me as a "respected" member of this list only. JOKE...Actually it was a pleasure to meet you because I had never visited Kowloon's or fully appreciated the plastic cow in front of the Hilltop Steakhouse (I'm also reminded me of Groucho's manifesto: "I wouldn't join any club that would have me as a member") ;-)...summer on all...Jimmy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) The Nostalgia Pages Date: 07 Jul 1998 20:39:30 -0400 (EDT) FYI - for fans of OTR. --Lou Title: The Nostalgia Pages URL: http://www.lofcom.com/nostalgia/ Keywords: nostalgia, otr, television, family, entertainment Description: To spend just a little while in the simpler time of the past, visit The Nostalgia Pages! Introducing Old-Time Radio to a generation who's parents barely remember it, The Nostalgia Pages include photos from the Friends of Old-Time Radio Conventions, "Hello's" from the stars of the past, and even complete Old-Time Radio shows! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) The inherently un-cool (was Tiki Lites / swing / Date: 07 Jul 1998 18:29:42 -0700 >I'll probably get flamed for agreeing with you here... as everyone well knows, >I HATE those thrift store finds lists and love to talk about the "issues". >But lately we've been talking alot more about issues and a lot LESS about >people's scores. So I'm happy with that. This ain't a flame. But I do disagree. I find most of these "issues" threads very dry, boring, redundant and kind of snobbish. I am delighted to read people's latest thrift scores (or wherever-the-source-scores). It quite often leads me to an artist I hadn't considered before, or gives me one more item to keep an eye out for. The more talk about the music, the better. Keep posting those scores! Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) RE: who's kidding who? -reply Date: 07 Jul 1998 22:44:32 EDT hello everybody- My recent comments generated a lot of responses--thanks to all of you who emailed! I'd like to clarify my position, which I feel is reasonable and perhaps I didn't express well: #1 - I spend countless hours plowing through records in a variety of places. #2 - My experience tells me, Yes, you will now and then find something NM or (dare I say-better)in a thrift shop. Usually it's not what I'm looking for, but I may buy it anyway. If I sell it at a small profit (to help pay for my "habit"-time, gas, etc) what's wrong with that? Especially since: #3 - I have on occasion spent A LOT of money on an LP knowing that it was probably acquired by the seller in the same way, and I was happy to pay it. Again, what's wrong with that? VALUE = willing buyer + willing seller + price agreeable to both. Why is this concept so difficult for some people to understand??? Love and kisses Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's kidding who? -Reply Date: 07 Jul 1998 23:08:21 EDT In a message dated 98-07-07 16:40:09 EDT, you write: > < Joe Shmoe homeowner who had pretty pedestrian tastes and didn't know how to > take care of vinyl.>> > > Bullshit. > In fact, that was Michelle's comment, not mine ; > I don't agree with her either--kinda snobbish attitude, n'est pas? Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Sloane Subject: Re: (exotica) The inherently un-cool (was Tiki Lites / swing / Date: 07 Jul 1998 22:11:03 -0500 At 02:38 PM 7/7/98 -0500, recliner wrote: > >Sorry to bog down the usually carefree happy tone of the list. Frank, Thanks for responding. I'm afraid it was I who "bogged down" the list, so apologies to anyone put off by the discussion. The kind of person I was imagining saying, "I like all kinds of music" is not the person you were imagining; that's fine. However, I would like to put in one last plug for the so-called "dupes" and "dabblers." Everyone starts somewhere, and acts for their own reasons. And if someone blindly follows some trend, and that leads him or her to make vast new discoveries, well then all right. And if it doesn't, I only hope s/he is at least getting some enjoyment out of the music. And then, At 04:03 PM 7/7/98 -0400, Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > >as everyone well knows, >I HATE those thrift store finds lists and love to talk about the "issues". >But lately we've been talking alot more about issues and a lot LESS about >people's scores. So I'm happy with that. Thanks, Michele. But I really didn't mean for it to be a dis on the score lists per se. I often like them--they're very educational, and I learn a lot from what other people are listening to, etc. And I think we should be talking about music; of course. I was just trying to say that music fans should, it seems to me, have plenty more to talk about than simply music. We already share a common interest, right? My rant about genres stems from seeing people distance themselves from others because of the music they listen to, or the clothes they wear, or the place they live. I simply think this kind of divisiveness is ironic, given the nature of music and its historical trajectory. Okay, right, thanks. Carry on, all. Best, Rob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Record obsessive Date: 08 Jul 1998 03:28:41 -0400 At 06:19 PM 07/07/98 EDT, BasicHip@aol.com wrote: > Many of you may be shocked by this, but I was my >records in the sink like a dish. Gentle, circular motions with cold water (do >not use hot!), a drop of rubbing alcohol and dishwashing liquid. Rinse >thoroughly and air dry in the Rubbermaid rack. I think the only shock would come from the fact you let them dry instead of patting them dry right away with a disposable diaper. Not that I do that myself. And how come no one has mentioned P7 or whatever it's called. That special kind of plastic innersleeve which is neither acid nor alkaline. I don't do that either but I thought it was de-rigeur among condition freaks. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) Un-cool Date: 07 Jul 1998 22:51:06 Pacific Daylight Time Here's my two cents on the "un-cool" issue. In Dr. Zhivago, Boris Pasternak wrote that having average taste was worse than having no taste at all. Darren # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) WOJ (writing on jacket) & Ersatz Covers Date: 08 Jul 1998 11:15:26 +0000 I own a copy of a 10" by "Die Dominas"(1980), a side project of then members of Kraftwerk Ralph Hutter and Karl Bartos; somebody has written his whole shopping list on the front cover. You often notice that people make little crosses, dots or check marks to indicate which songs in their opinion are the best on that certain record. I sometimes do it myself. On my France Gall-Greatest Hits the fore-owner had cross-marked each and every song, probably because he liked them all so much... The highest form of this kind of cover art is, when people replace the lost cover of a record by something they have made themselves. Entire record covers psychedelically drawn with thin felt-tip pens, daring collages that look like the photo-albums they have of their stars or random photos from magazines, used as illustrations for what they feel fits to the music of that record. I suggest these items are the musical equivalent of the lately fashionable Thriftshop art. It's true modern Primitivism if you like. And highly collectable. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: (exotica) - To Brad Bigelow - sorry cant find his emailaddress just now. Date: 08 Jul 1998 02:43:40 PDT Brad, Thanks for your "Unoriginal sin" tape! We listened to it on our way to the Norvegian Kon-Tiki Museum and it was a really fun experience. Tha perfect soundtrack when sunbathing, and watching girls. You'll get your tape soon, gotta find me a better stereoset to record it on, my tapedeck isnt good at all. respect, Magnus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's met who? Date: 08 Jul 1998 03:59:08 -0600 At 00:50 08/07/98 +0000, you wrote: > >> i am only dreaming when i say everyone should meet for an annual or >> bi-annual "rendezvous" at some EXOTIC locale.=20 > >How about Teneriffa? > >BTW: The Pop Komm in K=F6ln (Cologne, Germany) starts on the 13th of August= and >ends on the 16th. I will be there (Halle 13.2, Reihe H 081) presenting my >book. I heard that some list members want to go there. It's Europe's= biggest >music fair. Of course Motor will also have a stand. There will be gigs in= all >the clubs in town all the time. I'm trying to find out more information= about >Exotica-related events. There is usually one or two vaguely exotic gigs going on at PopKomm. Crippled Dick Hot Wax was meant to have a big party,but the venue cancelled on them about a week ago and now all the other places are booked full! I was meant to DJ at it (sigh...)=20 However, I will be DJing at the Disko B - International Deejay Gigolo - Kurbel - Go Records party at POPKOMM PARTY @ RHENANIA - AUG. 15th '98 Bayenstr. 28 (Rheinauhafen) - start: 11p.m. Much more of a techno sort of thing, but I won't be spinning that kind of thang in the chill out room.=20 As for PopKomm, it is VERY music business oriented. Other conferences are sometimes more party oriented. Motor has a stand, but you have to find a Jazz Motor rep. The others probably wouldn't know that much about those releases (at least that has been my finding and I know people who work there). And everyone is having meetings and blah, blah, blah. It can be very boring if you're IN the music business. Shutter to think what it would be like if you're NOT in it. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter C Subject: (exotica) Musical Analgesia for Delivery rooms Date: 08 Jul 1998 03:19:02 -0700 (PDT) My wife gave birth to our first child about a month ago and we tried a lot of music in the delivery room. The far best pain easer was "Eden Abez - Eden´s Island" and a very good way to start life to. Arthur Lyman´s "Colorful Percussions" was pretty good analgesia too. This records comes with our best recommendations for such events. Peter _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dan hill Subject: Re: (exotica) Enter the Lalo Dragon Date: 08 Jul 1998 11:23:44 +0100 apologies if this is well known to listmembers: >DIRTY HARRY I,II,III ... None of which exist as a released OST. As for the >other two, I have them >as I think most of the >people on this list know, "Sudden Impact and the Best of Dirty Harry" and a >7" of "Dirty Harry" are the only official releases of this music bar a few >compilations that have tracks from both of these... a couple of days ago there was talk about whether dirty harry existed as a release or not - as i understood it ... well, i just checked the great man's website (http://www.schifrin.com) and spotted this at the top of the discography: DIRTY HARRY ANTHOLOGY (Aleph - 1998) it's also on douglas payne's discography at http://siteworks.com/szabo/schifrin.htm is this the soundtrack(s)??? anybody any more on this??? cheers, dan. ---+ dan hill [state51] ---+ new reviews on motion [4.7.98]: < sue garner, deepak ram, airto moreira, god speed you black emperor!, joe and mat maneri, van der graaf generator > http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/ +--- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) PopKomm.98 info Date: 08 Jul 1998 12:22:58 +0000 The off. homepage: http://www.popkomm.com/ Events in Clubs and Discos: http://www.cologne-in.de/popkomm/popkomm1.htm Regional info (Hotels etc.): http://cologne-hotels.com/tour.shtml MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dan hill Subject: (exotica) more dirty lalo Date: 08 Jul 1998 11:31:35 +0100 ahem. should've clicked a couple more links on schifrin.com to find more info about this release (got too excited - soz). again, sorry if everyone knows this, but i don't recall it cropping up in exotica conversation - i often get asked when this lot is gonna be reissued via visitors to our specialist record shop finder site ... anyway, can't wait to hear this ... ciao, dan. > DIRTY HARRY ANTHOLOGY - > $17.95* > AVAILABLE NOW! > > > Lalo Schifrin presents a Dirty >Harry Anthology, featuring > music from the soundtracks of >"Dirty Harry," "Sudden > Impact," and "Magnum Force." >Also features cues never > before released on record! > > Dirty Harry Anthology > > 1.Dirty Harry's Creed > 2.Scorpio's Theme > 3.Sudden Impact > 4.Road to San Paulo > 5.Hot Shot Cop > 6.Magnum Force Theme > 7.Stake-Out > 8.Another Victim > 9.Robbery Suspect > 10.Floodlights > 11.The Cop > 12.Unicorn's Head > 13.Good-bye Cop > 14.The Bait > 15.San Francisco After Dark > 16.The Crooks > 17.The Mayor > 18.Palancio > 19.Ray of Light ---+ dan hill [state51] ---+ new reviews on motion [4.7.98]: < sue garner, deepak ram, airto moreira, god speed you black emperor!, joe and mat maneri, van der graaf generator > http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/ +--- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "telstar" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kung Fu Date: 08 Jul 1998 06:59:33 -0400 > >> Any more martial arts songs out there? To your list I would add: Alan Vega's "Kung Foo Cowboy" (on his first solo lp) and Charlie & Chan's "My Boyfriend's Learning Karate" (on the compilation "Bent, Batty and 'bnoxious!"). Allan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's kidding Ho (or is it Schmoe)? Date: 08 Jul 1998 08:40:54 EDT In a message dated 98-07-07 17:22:01 EDT, bruno wrote: << I love the idea that Joe Shmoe had these Mancini's and Denny's and that record with the babe on the cover that he hid from his wife and the Don Ho record they bought on vacation in Hawaii >> so let me get is straight -- joe schmoe bought a record by don ho? i couldn't resist. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrell Brogdon Subject: (exotica) Dirty Harry Date: 08 Jul 1998 07:57:10 +0000 > >DIRTY HARRY I,II,III ... None of which exist as a released OST. There was also an LP release on Viva called "The Best of Dirty Harry", containing music by Lalo Schifrin and Jerry Fielding from all the Dirty Harry films except for "The Dead Pool" (which hadn't been made at the time of the LP's release). Just found a copy last week. Darrell Brogdon Program Director KANU Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 dbrogdon@ukans.edu http://www.ukans.edu/~kanu-fm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Musical Analgesia for Delivery rooms Date: 08 Jul 1998 09:07:17 -0400 (EDT) At 03:19 AM 7/8/98 -0700, Peter wrote: >My wife gave birth to our first child about a month ago and we tried a >lot of music in the delivery room. >The far best pain easer was "Eden Abez - Eden=B4s Island" and a very >good way to start life to. >Arthur Lyman=B4s "Colorful Percussions" was pretty good analgesia too. > >This records comes with our best recommendations for such events. Congratulations, Peter! I guess now it's time to move on to Raymond Scott's Soothing Sounds For Baby. Tell us how effective that set is if you decide to play it for your new one. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's kidding who? Date: 08 Jul 1998 09:45:02 -0600 >Magnus wrote: > And the hunt is thrilling... You'll never know... That's the fun of collecting for me. Especially in thrifts I find myself thinking about what used records and other artifacts say about the times in which they were produced. Embedded messages lurk in the music, the technology used to record the music and whether it's highlighted with murky art of hypodermic syringes or stereo sets, the typography and illustrations, the photos and their content and how they were staged and cropped, liner notes and their tone, the labels on the disks. It's intriguing to figure out what Joe Schmoe valued in 1962, and used records are a great window for glimpsing a forgotten detail of Joe's life. Voyeurism? You bet. I've had a similar experience buying at a record show or in a used store, but that appeals to me less than thrifting. I prefer to unearth this stuff myself, and shopping at used stores or shows means the records are preselected. It's akin to buying a CD or seeing a film because you read a good review of it. Sometimes I'll do that because I've figured out, Ah, X reviewer has tastes similar to mine. But generally, I don't want any intermediaries involved. And I'll get a record home, slap it on the turntable, wipe it with the trusty Diskwasher, and listen. The first time. Did I score or not? I get excited because I'm entering the world of novelty. Most of the time, I'm disappointed or indifferent or the record will have only one or two cuts worth hearing again -- of course. The good stuff is somewhat rare, but the comparative rarity is one of the qualities that makes it good. So I'll while away an hour at Thrift City and maybe I'll find a Three Suns or a Lenny Dee I don't have for a buck or two. And everyone on this list can dig that "I finally found it!" experience. Yeah, you got that music you've been craving -- or maybe you didn't realize you'd been craving that particular music before that first listen -- and its yours, yours, yours to enjoy anytime you want to. Sure, I cull through tons of trash. The neighborhood Goodwill stays stocked with my rejects. But the fun of treasure hunting is not only in the hunt, it's in bagging the prize myself. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Lounge forever Date: 08 Jul 1998 10:51:40 EDT In a message dated 98-07-07 12:20:21 EDT, ecam@voicenet.com writes: << I was NOT saying "lounge" itself is dead. I WAS saying that I have the feeling that the mass media & major label interest is moving on to the next shiny object that catches its eye. Which doesn't necessarily have that much to do with us, other than to the extent that it affects our supply lines. >> Well I'm glad you're in my court on this because Michael thinks the record industry is bailing out on us. Sorry 'bout the context mess; just having a bit of fun with it. - michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Who's kidding Ho Date: 08 Jul 1998 09:04:15 -0400 (EDT) At 08:40 AM 7/8/98 EDT, Trebor wrote: > >In a message dated 98-07-07 17:22:01 EDT, bruno wrote: > ><< I love the idea that Joe Shmoe had these Mancini's and Denny's and that > record with the babe on the cover that he hid from his wife and the Don Ho > record they bought on vacation in Hawaii >> > >so let me get is straight -- joe schmoe bought a record by don ho? i couldn't >resist. > >robert And then there's this: * * * * * [FWD:] To whom this may concern: We check out Don Ho at Alta Vista search engine. We found out that there is an imposter named himself as Don Ho and he also has CDs out. We did some homework and we found out that this imposter currently resides in Santa Ana, CA. The website which is promoting this imposter is vietscape.com which locates in San Jose, CA. This is very messed up and misleading. It hurts our original Don Ho not only the name but also the business as well. Our Don Ho had worked so hard, most of his life to get to the status where he is today and this ruthless imposter just take all the credits. Can you do something about this? We love Don Ho. He's only original artist from Hawaii that the whole world love. Not some refugee who claims himself as Don Ho and robs our Don Ho's lifetime achievement. If you ever do business with our original artist Don Ho then please help him out this time. We believe the name Don Ho should be a trademark by now. Thank You. True Fan Helen Anderson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Re: Collecting albums and the associated pleasures... Date: 08 Jul 1998 11:02:30 -0400 Okay, since we're mentioning the attraction of simply *looking* at the = LP's, let's start an interesting thread. What are some of the "added attractions" that you've discovered either = tucked inside your record jackets or written on them.....whatever. I found a hand-written lyric sheet tucked inside a Led Zep album. It was = obviously a high school girl (that "bubbly" cursive style) and I can see = this gal now sitting next to the record player repeated putting the tone = arm up and down as she jots down those "heavy" lyrics. Anybody else? - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) and the associated pleasures... Date: 08 Jul 1998 11:53:09 -0400 > What are some of the "added attractions" that you've discovered either > tucked inside your record jackets or written on them.....whatever. > I found a poem, I forget in which record, written by a man, in German to his son. I still have it, maybe i can put it here and someone can translate it better than I can. surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Phillips" Subject: (exotica) Associated pleasures Date: 08 Jul 1998 12:20:47 -0400 One thing I recall is an Audio Fidelity flyer telling me how wonderful High Fidelity was, complete with diagrams, turntables and a partial listing of their records. I found this on the floor of the warehous...garag...I mean, shop I was in. The record I bought that day was Electric Prunes' LP, "I Had Too Much To Dream Last Night"! I'll put the flyer in my Harry Breuer album. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: (exotica) Re: Collecting albums and the associated pleasures... Date: 08 Jul 1998 12:09:01 -0500 On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 11:02:30 -0400 "Nathan Miner" writes: >I found a hand-written lyric sheet tucked inside a Led Zep album. It >was obviously a high school girl (that "bubbly" cursive style) and I can >see this gal now sitting next to the record player repeated putting the >tone arm up and down as she jots down those "heavy" lyrics. > >Anybody else? I found a pressed flower in Love's Four Sail, left by a love creature from a by-gone era. I also found the same person's address in two different albums that I purchaced two hundred miles apart. Jeff _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) correct track list for The Tornados: "The EP collection" Date: 08 Jul 1998 16:18:28 +0200 this is the correct track list for The Tornados: "The EP collection" CD, See For Miles 445, UK, 1996 + USA, 1997 1) Telstar 2) Popeye Twist 3) Love And Fury 4) Jungle Fever 5) Ridin' The Wind 6) Dreamin' On A Cloud 7) Red Roses And A Sky Of Blue 8) Rip It Up 9) All The Stars In The Sky 10) Hot Pot 11) Earthy 12) Chasing Moonbeams 13) Theme From 'A Summer Place' 14) Swinging Beefeater 15) The Breeze And I 16) Ready Teddy 17) My Babe 18) Joy Stick 19) Flycatcher 20) Costa Monger 21) Blue Moon Of Kentucky 22) Long Tail Sally 23) Globe Trotter 24) Locomotion With Me 25) Robot 26) Life On Venus 27) Chattanooga Choo Choo 28) Night Rider 29) Alan's Tune (the track list on the cd is completely screwed up) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim @ World Wide Wax" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Collecting albums and the associated pleasures Date: 08 Jul 1998 09:46:53 +0000 My favorite "extra" in a record so far was included with a mint copy of Big Bill Broonzy's Big Bill's Blues. The owner (in addition to keeping the lp mint) had inserted a newspaper article from the August 20, 1958 Chicago Daily News about Broonzy's funeral with great pictures of Broonzy, Win Stracke and Mahalia Jackson. I have created a few cool (if I do say so) album cover screen savers. They are 3D spinning cubes with different covers on each face. I've created jazz, beatles, and space cover versions. They can be found here: http://www.worldwidewax.com/fun/ Tim Barron World Wide Wax - Your source for classic vinyl Over 5,000 lps for sale & 600 scanned covers at: http://www.worldwidewax.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: RE: (exotica) and the associated pleasures... -Reply Date: 08 Jul 1998 12:22:34 -0400 Oh yeah! Here's another one: I got the Longines Symphony box set of Herb Alpert (mint condition - at a = thrift - so there!!!), and tucked inside was one of those tall, thin = sixties greeting cards with a cartoon illo and fuzzy background - a = birthday card from some guys sweetheart with a letter inside full of = gushes about the moonlight, kisses, etc, etc. I guess the guy didn't really dig his gift 'cause it looks like he never = played the records........well, Herb is kinda lame anyway....... - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) and the associated pleasures... http://kitty62.eo.net/frameset.html Date: 08 Jul 1998 12:43:24 +0000 I picked up a "101 French Verbs" or some such record that had a graduation photo of a girl inside the sleeve. The note on the back was to a new love. It said stuff like "I'm glad we finally got to know each other," etc... It was full of the promise of a new romance. Also contained in the sleeve was a note from HIM to HER saying. "Sorry things did not work out...Hope you find what you are looking for... I will always love you," and on like that. The birth and death of love! It appears as if he returned the photo's (there was one other) and the record after the breakup with his note. I picture him driving up in his beat-up Ford (it was '62 or '63) at night, scribbling the note and leaving it unceremoniously on the porch of her (parents') house. It will be featured in an excellent web site (I believe M.Ace posted it with a note about accordion awareness month recently) The photos and notes will be featured in Kitty's "Found" section, wherein she features found notes and photos from total strangers. Fascinating! Go here. It's neato: http://kitty62.eo.net/frameset.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Who's Kidding? Date: 08 Jul 1998 16:15:47 EDT In a message dated 98-07-07 23:11:34 EDT, ChuckTFrog@aol.com writes: << > < Joe Shmoe homeowner who had pretty pedestrian tastes and didn't know how to > take care of vinyl.>> > > Bullshit. > In fact, that was Michelle's comment, not mine ; > I don't agree with her either--kinda snobbish attitude, n'est pas? Chuck >> I think my comment was misunderstood. What I meant was that mostly I find stuff like the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack, the Foreigner album, etc. MAINSTREAM TASTES mostly in the records bin. I do not on average or have I EVER run across an Esquivel album or a Dick Hyman album. That is what I meant by pedestrian tastes. You can all agree with me that the vast majority of the shit in the bins IS in fact Olivia Newton John, John Denver, etc. Right? You do not on average find some recollector's stuff in the bins. That would be more of a rare find. Of course I am only going on my 20 some-odd experiences in Good Will Stores, Salvation Army etc. I do not know how anyone can interpret these remarks as "snobbish" but, if that is what you got out of it, it wasn't intended. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) I'm leaving! Date: 08 Jul 1998 16:15:55 EDT Okay, that's it! I'm tired of arguing with everyone and now it looks like the worst possible thing has happened - you are going to go on and on about your thrift store finds. I'm not looking at any of my exotica mail for a few days, so just go ahead, run me over (verbally) after all the new posts and comments I've made. I won't be here to read them, ha! ha! And maybe when I come back you will be back to a more pallatable subject! - Michele (the rant and raver) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's kidding who? Date: 08 Jul 1998 16:15:54 EDT In a message dated 98-07-08 09:05:30 EDT, sevo@inm.de writes: << Where else do you think you'll find good records? All second hand and collectible record stores I know do buy their stock at thrift stores and antique dealers - arguably on a more professional scale, and usually ahead of me, as they cooperate with antique dealers and get bundle offers as soon as their partners pick up a rack full of records. Nonetheless, they are likely to buy only stuff with a known collectors value, and may leave more obscure stuff behind. Buying records on flea markets and in thrift stores certainly is neither easy nor that cheap - while each individual record may be only DM 1, I usually buy five to ten duds to one discovery, and barely ever manage to pick up well-known collectibles. Nonetheless it has been worth while. >> In other words, you are competing with dealers. Maybe it works for those of you who can keep a schedule of when new shipments of albums arrive, or make buddies with whoever works there to hold stock back, etc. Just try buying a Heywood Wakefield table at the Rosebowl Swap meet when you are competing with dealers - it just doesn't happen! Also, here in L.A. the dealers are buying the exotica and bach pad stuff to resell to me be it at the swap meet or at the second-hand record store - so we ARE competing for the same stock. But thanks for the insight. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) You Kids Have It Easy: The Easy Post Date: 08 Jul 1998 16:15:45 EDT In a message dated 98-07-07 19:12:30 EDT, eero67@hotmail.com writes: << This whole thread reminds me of a conversation I had a while back with a friend, which boiled down to "these kids today have it easy" because in our day [granted, I'm 23, so I'm talking 5 to 7 years ago :) ] you had to really do some hunting and research to find your niche in some musical subculture thingy - reading fanzines, looking in the under-the-table bins>> Don't even start this thread. There's a bunch of list people twho are over-30 ex-punk rockers who just won't even believe that it was still "underground" 5 to 7 years ago. I guess if we look at Nirvanna being some sort of year that punk broke or something.... but I won't even bother to debate this. Basically what I wanted to say was that kids today DO have it easy. When I was a high school punk rocker in 1978, I was one of only eight known people in the two-city area. I took so much shit at school that I've blocked out my high school years. I'd have to go into recovered memory therapy to recall with any detail all the food being thrown at me, being called a prostitute or a freak and wearing a bike chain to school because I was afraid I would get beat up. All of this abuse because I had black hair and white skin and was into punk music (which most of the students had no idea what it was about, except that it WASN'T Led Zepplin or Foreigner) Today, you can walk around with purple hair, earrings everywhere and look like a total scum bag and no one will throw food at you. <> What rebels? What rebellion? Its over and its been over since 1980. I'd venture to say that for at least 10 years, being punk, death rock, heavy metal, ska or mod is just one of any number of "acceptible" subcultures for young folks to go into. And all that is acceptible today came at a price that us old pioneers had to pay. In my not so humble opinion, - Michele Of the POTPACC (Punk Old-Timers For A Public Apology From Clinton Committee) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's kidding Ho Date: 08 Jul 1998 16:24:14 EDT In a message dated 98-07-08 11:36:48 EDT, lousmith@pipeline.com writes: << We love Don Ho. He's only original artist from Hawaii that the whole world love. Not some refugee who claims himself as Don Ho and robs our Don Ho's lifetime achievement. If you ever do business with our original artist Don Ho then please help him out this time. We believe the name Don Ho should be a trademark by now. >> I would assume that the REAL Don Ho can sue since his name is like his :"band name" and not just a private name. Unless of course this other imposter is really also named Don Ho. Anyone else got ideas on this? - Michele (there I go again, answering some posts) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) It only takes one person.... Date: 08 Jul 1998 16:15:27 EDT In a message dated 98-07-07 16:18:03 EDT, bruno@yhammer.com writes: << All it takes is for one person in that town to want the same records you do and that one person, who might just be lurking on this list, can upset the whole balance for you. >> Yeah exactly! I have this same problem with a vintage clothing store I like to go to here in L.A. I dont tell anyone about it, but I'm sure everyone already knows about it because it is a pretty high-profile place. Anyway, almost any tiime I'm in there, there's this same woman in there who obviously is into exotica or at least likes to wear the same type of things I'm lookihng for and she's always there when I get there. I think she works there. But whenever I get there and see her I have this sinking feeling that my search for clothes is going to be totally futile. It drives me crazy! The only thing I have going for me is that we aren't the same size (she is probably a size 11 and I'm a size 4). Even so, I imagine she hides all the good small stuff for her smaller friends! - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Pesonal relief Date: 08 Jul 1998 16:15:39 EDT In a message dated 98-07-07 17:31:30 EDT, you write: << Just like I hate it when someone meets me at a party and immediately after the handshake asks "What do YOU do?" But I think I've even done that too. >> What's worse is going to a party and being afraid to ask them what they do. I have always felt that way since being in the punk scene since 1991. Who knows if the person you are talking to is a robber/drug addict or has some miserable peon "day" job that they hate and you don't want to look all high and mighty by asking them that question and then having to respond to them that you are a word processor or a grad student or an engineer.... you know what I mean? Now that I haven't been going to any punk parties for a few years, I'm so glad to not have to deal with this problem anymore. Now all the parties I go to I pretty much know that they work for a living (and if they do drugs it is pretty much not visible) and I don't feel uncomfortable if the subject of employment comes up. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) I'm leaving! Date: 08 Jul 1998 13:59:07 -0700 At 04:15 PM 7/8/98 EDT, Michele wrote: > >Okay, that's it! I'm tired of arguing with everyone and now it looks like the >worst possible thing has happened - you are going to go on and on about your >thrift store finds. I'm not looking at any of my exotica mail for a few days, >so just go ahead, run me over (verbally) after all the new posts and comments >I've made. I won't be here to read them, ha! ha! And maybe when I come back >you will be back to a more pallatable subject! This is really getting silly, and is exactly the "snobbish" or "elitist" type of posting I was referring to. I wish some could get beyond judging the merits of other people's postings - if you don't like them, trash them! Don't read the thrift store finds! Anyone should feel comfortable posting anything they want, regardless of other people's opinion. Chances are not everyone will be interested, but maybe one person will. As you're a self-proclaimed ex-punker who was belittled by others in high school, one would think you'd have more room for acceptance of other people's eccentricities.... Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: (exotica) Re: I'm Leaving Date: 08 Jul 1998 16:03:34 PDT Well hurry back. I for one will miss the wit and charm of your keenly considered generalizations and unswerving faith in the a prior consensus of the elect. Waugh ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) and the associated pleasures... Date: 08 Jul 1998 19:12:40 -0400 > From: Ron Grandia > Subject: Re: (exotica) and the associated pleasures... > > It will be featured in an excellent web site (I believe M.Ace posted > it with a note about accordion awareness month recently) The photos and > notes will be featured in Kitty's "Found" section, wherein she features > found notes and photos from total strangers. Fascinating! > > Go here. It's neato: > http://kitty62.eo.net/ Yep, that was me, and yep, "Kitty62ville" is a very neato site to visit. Don't miss the Mondo Micro film festival. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's Kidding? Date: 08 Jul 1998 17:53:08 -0600 > > > In fact, that was Michelle's comment, not mine ; > > I don't agree with her either--kinda snobbish attitude, n'est pas? > Chuck >> > >I think my comment was misunderstood. What I meant was that mostly I find >stuff like the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack, the Foreigner album, etc. >MAINSTREAM TASTES mostly in the records bin. I do not on average or have I >EVER run across an Esquivel album or a Dick Hyman album. I think you were treated a bit harshly here, but I have found Dick's "Fabulous" in LA while I was there and my friend found "Latin-esque" in Compton while I was there. Both in good shape. Both for a dollar. And like I said, once a week we thrifted - if we were lucky, hitting about 5-7 shops... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's kidding who? Date: 08 Jul 1998 17:53:25 -0600 At 16:15 08/07/98 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-07-07 16:40:40 EDT, you write: > ><< And people who were buying these records at the time do > occasionally die. Get in touch with your own mortality is my advice and go > thrifting! >> > >Okay, I admit I've only looked through about 20 thrift stores on one= weekend - >and this is when I happened to be 90 miles away from Los Angeles at a >conference and thought I might get lucky. No such luck. All I saw was the >usual Olivia Newton John etc. shit. And mostly all of it was was cracked, >ruined vinyl, record jackets without records, etc. I suppse to score like= you >guys I gotta be out there all the time. But what do you really think my >chances are here in metropolitan Los Angeles??? I'm already competing with >scenesters over clothing here... I can't imagine that the vinyl situation= will >be any better. I lived there 5.5 months. Maybe thrifted about once a week - if I was lucky as I didn't have a car. Usually hit about 5 stores in one day. Usually find at least one record that I thought was worth purchasing. Astrud Gilberto. Les Baxter. Claudine. Denny. Lyman. Sergio Mendes. Lalo Schifrin. Hawaii 5-0 soundtrack. All $2 or less. The Schifrin I sold for =A320 - yes, the famed "Best of Dirty Harry - Sudden Impact" one.=20 Outside Palm Springs I scored Murry Wilson's LP which brightened up Ingemar's day recently. In Oregon, I got Lee Hazlewood's "Poet, Fool or Bum" for $4 at a thrift store - also got a cool tiki there for $2.=20 Basically, it can be done. I didn't do nearly as much thrifting as I would have liked, and I walked out empty handed far more than with a score, but finding that Hawaii Five 0 soundtrack, having no idea just how amazing it was, was such a score. And how long had I looked for that Lee Hazlewood LP? Sure, "Tamboo" and "Ritual of the Savage" were rather scuffed, but now I have more than that bootleg CD, and I didn't have to spend a fortune for the cool covers. And I've made cash with some of the others. And traded and made others happy. So I find it rewarding. Sometimes I can't be bothered with the records, but I find I have a sixth sense with searching. I can usually tell if it'll be good or crap. I dunno. Different strokes for different folks as they say.=20 Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Pesonal relief Date: 08 Jul 1998 20:18:51 EDT In a message dated 98-07-08 16:28:52 EDT, you write: << ust like I hate it when someone meets me at a party and immediately after the handshake asks "What do YOU do?" But I think I've even done that too. >> i have found that the people who ask this usually want you to ask it back so they can say what they do. i never ask it back -- and if they try to explain anyway i kindly excuse myself. touche' robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) First the world... Date: 08 Jul 1998 23:36:04 -0400 I don't think I've seen it mentioned here so just in case... There's a new film out on tape. "First the World, then the Fireworks" I can't recommend it as a film experience. It's based on a Jim Thompson short story and in many ways, it's a textbook case of why updated film noir seldom works. Don't ask me to explain that. Anyway, it's set in the fifties and has a pretty damn cool soundtrack by PETE RUGOLO. The kind of jazzy, insistent, bongo and organ and horns thing you'd associate with other films made in the period the film is set. If you don't want to sit through the whole film, just watch the opening credits and the opening scene. The credits are very Saul Bass influenced and with the music, it kind of feels like "Man with the golden arm" or something. It was a cool idea to employ Pete Rugolo - and Pete Jolly on organ along with a few other guys from the period - but too bad the film kind of sucks. Unless you're a Gina Gershon fan. Or Sheryl Lee. There is one great scene with a private eye but no scenes set in a lounge exactly, unless you include the scene in the blues bar with the fake Little Walter style band. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) I'm leaving! Date: 09 Jul 1998 01:30:44 EDT In a message dated 98-07-08 16:49:53 EDT, davidson@serv.net writes: << This is really getting silly, and is exactly the "snobbish" or "elitist" type of posting I was referring to. I wish some could get beyond judging the merits of other people's postings - if you don't like them, trash them! Don't read the thrift store finds! Anyone should feel comfortable posting anything they want, regardless of other people's opinion. Chances are not everyone will be interested, but maybe one person will. As you're a self-proclaimed ex-punker who was belittled by others in high school, one would think you'd have more room for acceptance of other people's eccentricities.... >> Apparently some people on the list don't know when someone is joking around. I was only making a joke about the recent flames coming my way due to some of my "controversal" posts. Of course people can post what they want. My opinion on thrift score posts, as it has been fettered out before, is in the minority. I was just having some fun here because as most everyone on this list knows, I don't like the thrift scores post. But at this point it is just a running joke of mine. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) I'm leaving! Date: 09 Jul 1998 01:30:48 EDT In a message dated 98-07-08 18:58:14 EDT, kahuna77@hotmail.com writes: << Well hurry back. I for one will miss the wit and charm of your keenly considered generalizations and unswerving faith in the a prior consensus of the elect. >> Oh, my gosh. I think eveeyone is taking me too seriously. Didn't you all know I was just having some fun? In light of recent flames coming my way over stuff I've posted recently, I just thought I'd get serious and get all mad. As for the posts, I am all for freedom of speech - I'm sure I post alot of things that no one wants to talk about. It is true that I don't like the thrift score posts, but hey, I just use the delete key when it gets boring. Thanks, Michele Still lurking in the shadows.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Vintage in L.A. Date: 09 Jul 1998 01:31:00 EDT In a message dated 98-07-08 22:32:20 EDT, you write: << Then I came back only a few years later and I couldn't afford anything. I remember this vintage "Springsteen-style" leather jacket that would have been $75 or so last time I'd been there and now it was around $500 and the guy apologized but said something about "Japanese tourists". My first encounter with something that became familiar, especially around records. What's that got to do with anything? Just L.A. and vintage clothing I guess. >> It hasn't changed since you left. If you go to these vintage places, they will have certain types of clothes hung on the wall like trophies with huge price tags on them. Like certain cowboy style shirts, Hawaiian shirts, etc. A Hawaiian shirt in a thrift store here - a nothing special type - goes for about $20. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) You Kids Have It Easy: The Easy Post Date: 09 Jul 1998 01:54:12 -0400 At 04:15 PM 08/07/98 EDT, Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > >Today, you can walk around with purple hair, earrings everywhere and look like >a total scum bag and no one will throw food at you. >What rebels? What rebellion? See, you're saying the kids have it easy because they can get away with being "different" without having to pay a price for it. I guess that's one point of view. But I'd say - if that's true - they have it harder. It's harder to be different when every underground idea or trend becomes a Nike ad next week. And no matter how much you "genuinely" like the music - whatever that means - when you're younger, you are always buying an identity when you buy your music. (And maybe that's true no matter how old you get.) So I feel sorry for the kids today. What if they need to rebel? I'm sorry that my generation and the one behind me, grew up, took over the ad agencies and found a way to make virtually anything cool. Even the crappy records our parents tortured us with. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's Kidding? Date: 09 Jul 1998 05:17:00 -0400 At 05:53 PM 08/07/98 -0600, Jill Mingo wrote: > I have found Dick's"Fabulous" in LA while I was there Maybe we should trade copies. I think I got your copy somehow. My copy of that record, which I got in Hamilton (at a thrift store which is a place of pilgrimmage for a listmember here) is the Spanish language version of the record. "FABULOSO" Dick Hyman con el Organo Lowrey. Actually the front cover is in English but everywhere else it's Spanish. In Spanish, "Washington Square" is still the same but for instance, "S'posin" is "Suponiendo". The other interesting thing is that even though it's still a gatefold record, the record itself slides into the left side, not the right. (I don't know how interesting that is but it's different.) Wouldn't it make more "sense" (yeah I know...) to have found that copy of the record in Los Angeles and for me to find the normal copy in whitebread Hamilton? Hope I didn't start some kind of funny foreign translation thread here. But in case I did, I'll jump in with the first one. At one point, the Spanish title of the film Psycho, when translated back into English was "The man who thought he was his mother". Or is that apocryphal? Yours always fabuloso! Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) You Kids Have It Easy: The Easy Post Date: 09 Jul 1998 11:29:01 +0000 >Today, you can walk around with purple hair, earrings everywhere and look > like a total scum bag and no one will throw food at you. > > >What rebels? What rebellion? > > See, you're saying the kids have it easy because they can get away with > being "different" without having to pay a price for it. > I guess that's one point of view. > But I'd say - if that's true - they have it harder. It's harder to be > different when every underground idea or trend becomes a Nike ad next week. > And no matter how much you "genuinely" like the music - whatever that means > - when you're younger, you are always buying an identity when you buy your > music. (And maybe that's true no matter how old you get.) > So I feel sorry for the kids today. What if they need to rebel? > I'm sorry that my generation and the one behind me, grew up, took over the > ad agencies and found a way to make virtually anything cool. > Even the crappy records our parents tortured us with. > > Nat I think we're coming to an interesting point here. Obviously it was important for many Exotica-listers and record-collectors that their "hobby" (and it's much more really!) expressed being different. It was considered a value of its own. I can say that about most of my own life as well, just beginning to understand what happened and why I couldn't just grow up as a "normal" adjusted member of "the" society. Some listers expressed discomfort about the fact, that Exotica became so fab these days and supposedly "unqualified" people started to listen to it and not only that: "they" started to use the - "our" - style as their own self-expression! I think it's interesting how much of the stuff that is discussed in the list is obviously NOT about music, but about the style, the corporate identity it gives, collecting as a way of self-determination etc. Therefore it's not at all uninteresting to discuss these beyond-music things, even for those who consider themselves as pure hunters and collectors. Talking of the young generations problems with difference: Maybe it's not their problem at all to want to be different anymore, if difference is mainstream anyway. Instead it might be of much greater importance for them to survive alone, wether they are different from whatever or not. They will have to find words instead of symbols to understand whats going on. Their problem is not to find ways to exclude themselves from society anymore, but to be excluded from society. Just being ignored and left to rot. Many would be happy if people would throw food at them. I agree with Nat: I don't think they have it any better than the generations before. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: (exotica) chicas! Date: 09 Jul 1998 03:09:41 PDT >http://www.bronte.demon.co.uk/chicks/ >New Irish Shaggs-tastic teen pop sensation? Only one EP out so far, >but from the one track I've heard, these girls ROCK!Robbie can't say their music is the best in the world but their attitude's cool. mangas and punk rock. and they're the only 16 yr olds i know who quote foucault. also the ep is on yellow vinyl. they rule. rob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOFFO@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU Subject: (exotica) Inside LPS Date: 09 Jul 1998 08:11:41 -0400 (EDT) >What are some of the "added attractions" thtucked inside your record jackets... I had a odd two-fer recentely. Thrifted a mid-60s George Jones record. Inside, was a signed color 8 x 10 of Big Rig Singer, Dave "Six Days on the Road" Dudley. I should add, it was a fairly recent shot of Dave Dudley, he looked grey and real worn out. Al # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) Sound Burgers Date: 09 Jul 1998 13:34:20 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 07/09/98 08:34 AM cc: Although I could never find a Sound Burger itself, I did recently find a mid-60s orange plastic portable battery powered record player. I would stick headphones in it and head off to record fairs, market stalls, Bargain bin record shops and charity shops (thrift stores), yanking out vinyl left right and centre and going through anything that took my fancy. This soundtrack looks interesting, is it any good? Lets have a listen. Anyway, equipped with one of these gems or with a Sound Burger if you can ever find one allows you to prevent yourself from buying racks and racks of absolute crap and for a small daily charge (batteries) allows the discerning record shopper to avoid the dross. I would recommend it to those of you who are silly enough to buy records that look interesting (almost always finding out when you get home that they're rubbish). Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Inside LPS Date: 09 Jul 1998 13:39:02 +0100 Charles Moseley@MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL 07/09/98 08:39 AM cc: I recently picked up an LP totally created on The Super Nintendo using a cartridge called MarioPaint - a rough sequencer package with strange beeping sounds. Why anyone would want to create a whole LP on this I don't know but somebody has. Inside, to my surprise and good fortune was a glossy 8x10 photgraph of the originator with his signature - surely a costly mistake on his part as if he was ever recognised in the street, I'm sure he could encounter predatory behaviour from those who had chanced upon his creation and may even incur a nasty injury on account of his pushing at the borders of acceptable taste. Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) I'm leaving! Date: 09 Jul 1998 09:01:35 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 01:33:42 EDT, you write: << Apparently some people on the list don't know when someone is joking around. I was only making a joke about the recent flames coming my way due to some of my "controversal" posts. >> i thought this michele girl said she was leaving? isn't that the title of her post? shees!!!! robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Who's kidding who's kidding who!!! Date: 09 Jul 1998 11:21:34 EDT >>stuff like the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack, the Foreigner album, etc. >>MAINSTREAM TASTES mostly in the records bin. I do not on average or have I >>EVER run across an Esquivel album or a Dick Hyman album. >I think you were treated a bit harshly here, but I have found Dick's >"Fabulous" in LA while I was there and my friend found "Latin-esque" in >Compton while I was there. Both in good shape. Both for a dollar. And like I >said, once a week we thrifted - if we were lucky, hitting about 5-7 shops...> >>Okay, I admit I've only looked through about 20 thrift stores on one= > weekend - >>and this is when I happened to be 90 miles away from Los Angeles at a >>conference and thought I might get lucky. No such luck. All I saw was the >>usual Olivia Newton John etc. shit. And mostly all of it was was cracked, >>ruined vinyl, record jackets without records, etc. I suppse to score like= > you >>guys I gotta be out there all the time. But what do you really think my >>chances are here in metropolitan Los Angeles??? I'm already competing with >>scenesters over clothing here... I can't imagine that the vinyl situation= > will Of course i agree with all of you!! You are brilliant! Nothing like a good pissing contest to start the day! Now, here's a bit of my perspective as we've already heard from London, L.A., and a couple more "real" cities....... I live in the DEEP South and when I go to my local thrift store I find the following mix: 40% Xmas records (Goodyear, Firestone, compilations, etc.), 40% obscure singing gospel families with photos of assorted relatives in polyester irridescent suits, big hair, evidence of weaknesses in the gene pool, 15% private label preachers, choirs, religious pageants, 4% Olivia N-J, 101 Strings, Kenny Rogers, trashed Alabama/Lnryd Skyrnrd/Molly Hatchet and 1% "other". Part of the reason I need to get pack to the West Coast !!!! CHuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Sound Burgers -Reply Date: 09 Jul 1998 08:49:30 -0400 In response to Charlie's recommendation of a portable record player. = There's a company in Japan that makes portable players for around $100 = (and available in U.S.). Saw this covered in a back issue of Giant Robot magazine. Don't have any specifics.... - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's kidding who? Date: 09 Jul 1998 10:50:31 -0600 >Jill wrote: Sometimes I can't be bothered with the >records, but I find I have a sixth sense with searching. I can usually tell >if it'll be good or crap. I dunno. Different strokes for different folks as >they say. Yeah, Jill, I operate the same way. I usually hit the thrifts when intuition tells me, Go! And I almost always find something, even if it's something I never thought I'd like. Unexpected treasures are sometimes the best. Mimi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: (exotica) Porta-disc Date: 09 Jul 1998 11:53:28 -0400 Sound burgers? Thankx to the list for reminding me about the similar one I have that I scored in an Odd-Lot 15 years ago. Made by Audio Technica and it has a decent magnetic stylus, runs on AA batteries and has headphone and LINE level outputs. Has a faux-suede case, fits in a shoebox. Runs at about 35 RPM, but so what?!? I'm almost ashamed to say I only paid $20 for it. And I only used it for one semester at school. (Geez, I hope this doesn't count as a "score" posting. ) surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Turner Subject: Re: (exotica) Sound Burgers -Reply Date: 09 Jul 1998 09:34:40 -0700 (PDT) > > > In response to Charlie's recommendation of a portable record player. There's a company in Japan that makes portable players for around $100 (and available in U.S.). > > Saw this covered in a back issue of Giant Robot magazine. > > Don't have any specifics.... This is probably the same one Dusty Groove is currently selling. From their website (http://dustygroove.com): --- VP96 -- Portable Phonograph (Orange Version) . . . Misc . . . $134.99 Vacuum (Japan), 1997 Condition: New Copy | View Cart ] Cool beans! By now, you've probably heard the rumors that a Japanese company is making portable record players again. Well, the rumors are true, and Dusty Groove's got these cool little players for sale in the U.S. of A.! They're even better than they used to be, too, because these neat little players come with added new features like pitch control, a jack for an external speaker (not included), and an AC adaptor (included with the player!) The players are in a case, run at 45 or 33 rpm, and run on 6 "C" batteries (not included). Audio Technica made them, so the quality is top-notch, and they come in 2 colors -- orange or blue (please specify). Very very neat, and great when you're out vinyl hunting for those odd little records! -- Mark Turner | "Slow Train to Dawn" with Rocky Rococo mturner@netcom.com | Sundays 3-7AM, 89.7 KFJC, Los Altos Hills, CA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Trends and our "disposable" culture Date: 09 Jul 1998 12:44:10 EST Nat writes: > See, you're saying the kids have it easy because they can get away > with being "different" without having to pay a price for it. I guess > that's one point of view. But I'd say - if that's true - they have > it harder. It's harder to be different when every underground idea > or trend becomes a Nike ad next week.... So I feel sorry > for the kids today. What if they need to rebel? I'm sorry that my > generation and the one behind me, grew up, took over the ad agencies > and found a way to make virtually anything cool. Even the crappy > records our parents tortured us with. I think the real problem here isn't the state of things as much as each individual state of mind. The mass-media hype that seems to be aimed at making our choices for us only works if we let it. I don't want to belabour the point but things are no more or less hard for this generation than any other. Change requires commitment and no one will do this for you. What fuelled the new wave movement in music during the late 70's was precisely a large group of people who didn't like what they heard and did something about it. It fuelled the biggest independent music distribution movement I've ever encountered and some of the best music I've ever known too (hey now my age is showing...). > I think we're coming to an interesting point here. Obviously it was > important for many Exotica-listers and record-collectors that their > "hobby" (and it's much more really!) expressed being different. It was > considered a value of its own. I can say that about most of my own > life as well, just beginning to understand what happened and why I > couldn't just grow up as a "normal" adjusted member of "the" society. Mortitz's point is well taken here. Some of us simply don't want to accept what's thrown at us and that in itself is a good thing. The globalization of the corporate culture is doing a major number on our identities and it's really up to us all as individuals to express our own desires and try to keep one step ahead of the gimmicks and trends. To me it comes down to the question of quality and more precisely, the loss of appreciation for it, which pervades just about every segment of our collective society. Europeans may find this statement a bit strange but thankfully, you have a long way to go to catch up with the disposable society we've created over here on the other side of the pond! It's not a question of elitism but simply of basic human pride. OK, I'll stop rating for a while. Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) Added Attractions Date: 09 Jul 1998 13:13:06 Pacific Daylight Time Hello! I've had a few "added attractions" in records I've bought, but the most memorable was an American 10 dollar bill inside of an Perez Prado "Spin-o-Rama" record. Also, I bought a two disc set of "The World Of Boots Randolph," and inside was a third record, called "Boots Midnight Party." So that was nice. But here's something interesting: I once bought a record that had my name on it. Turns out that somebody with the same name as me (and same musical tastes, presumably) liked to write his name on his records. The feeling was somewhat similar to the time I saw my name on a gravestone. Darren! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) The who's kidding who project Date: 09 Jul 1998 13:06:38 -0400 At 11:21 AM 09/07/98 EDT, ChuckTFrog@aol.com wrote: ....... >I live in the DEEP South and when I go to my local thrift store I find the >following mix: >40% obscure singing gospel families with photos of assorted relatives in >polyester irridescent suits, big hair, evidence of weaknesses in the gene >pool, I only have about seven of them so far but I collect that stuff. I guess I probably wouldn't collect it, if I saw it that much more often. I never listen to them but I always fantasize that if I did, I would find some of that genuinely moving kind of gospel hidden in there somewhere. That kind of gospel where you don't have to care about the exact message. But if I believed in the fantasy a little more, I suppose I would listen to them. I love this thread so I don't mind that we're back here for the second time in the six months I've been on this list. Someday I hope somebody - maybe even somebody on this list - does a scientific survey to determine more exact percentages of Olivia Newton John, Juice Newton and Billy Joel records. OR here's an idea. I don't think that exotica list convention is about to happen any time this decade. But what about one of those "A day in the life" kind of things? You know those things they do with photographers where they choose one photographer in each of several cities and they each take one picture on the same day.. and then it's a TV special or a book or something. I must be going crazy. It must be the humidity... BUT WHAT IF we all choose a day and on that day every one of us goes to one thrift store wherever we are, not to buy records and report our finds but to count the number of records in each of a certain preset number of categories, to be determined beforehand. Then we all report our findings to the list and someone does the tally and then we can say that on September 15 1998, fully 5 percent of the records you could find in thrift stores around the world at that moment were recorded by Roger Whittaker. It'll only work if we all do it. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: Re: (exotica) The who's kidding who project Date: 09 Jul 1998 10:31:40 -0700 >At 11:21 AM 09/07/98 EDT, ChuckTFrog@aol.com wrote: >....... >>I live in the DEEP South and when I go to my local thrift store I find the >>following mix: >>40% obscure singing gospel families with photos of assorted relatives in >>polyester irridescent suits, big hair, evidence of weaknesses in the gene >>pool, for the most part, i would say that thrifting in the south is way, way, way better than on the west coast. i'm from austin, but now live in SF... In texas, there are more shit town within a given radius of the a city. Drive for an hour: you're in the boonies!! Sure, you have to dig through mountains of loggins and streisands, but it just seems soooo much easier to find great, *cheap* stuff. On the west coast, it's like everybody is in on the secret. I drove an hour outside of SF, found some church-affiliated thrift store, and voila! All the 50s and 60s dresses, purses and hats were in a special section marked "vintage." Bah! jasmine - -- -- -- -- -- - Looking for Indiepop / Exotica / Space Bachelor shows, releases and news? Check out the Bay Area's (and beyond) weekly source: http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Sarah Vaughan: "Songs Of The Beatles" Date: 09 Jul 1998 19:04:38 +0200 Sarah Vaughan: "Songs Of The Beatles" was listed in my latest XRO update, but that was by accident. don't buy that one, it sucks, it doesn't sound like Sarah Vaughan at all, it's awfull 1981 disco, not jazz. Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: Re: (exotica) You Kids Have It Easy Date: 09 Jul 1998 14:05:44 -0400 >There's a bunch of list people twho are over-30 ex-punk rockers who just won't >even believe that it was still "underground" 5 to 7 years ago. I guess if we >look at Nirvanna being some sort of year that punk broke or something.... You know one of the great pleasures I get out of rootling around in old vinyl is discovering sounds that seem startlingly ahead of their time... whatever that time was. Maybe I get floored to discover that Kraftwerk's "Autobahn" was from all the way back in1972 (think about what was on the top 40 at that point). Or that Patti Smith got started in '75 or something--when even Michele was a wee tot ;-). Or there's the Ray Scott tune "A Street Corner in Paris," which breaks into pure Frank Zappa, despite having been written in 1937. Basically the whole experience that hooked me on HiFi and Exotica was finding out how wild and adventurous all those records could be--albums that the Rock generation had completely dismissed as "Easy Listening." So I've gradually come to mistrust any attitude that "we were here first and no one before us knew anything... " I've just been going through a giant heap of late-60's rock LPs (non-exotic) and it's kind of eye-opening to see how many of these bands were into neo-victorian clothes, and how many of them did songs inspired by the "do-dee-oh-do" sounds of early 78's (not even to mention _Sargent Pepper's_). So even the somewhat ahistorical kinds of revivals we're seeing with "Swing" today are nothing new. . . . yours in Peace, Love and Understanding, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: (exotica) New today: The Donnas/ Trackstar/ Bastille Day fun! Date: 09 Jul 1998 11:08:37 -0700 Hi everyone, It's that time of the week again... Thursday! SF Gate's weekly column dedicated to all things indiepop, exotica or just plain odd is live and kicking with great live show pics. Special this week is a rundown of all the great stuff to do in honor of Bastille Day. So get out your favorite red wine, pull up a chair and cuddle up with your monitor... then, get away from that damn computer and have some fun! http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart ---- Also, don't hesitate to write in with story ideas. Especially if you know about a Bay Area (or beyond) band that never gets any press... 'til next week!! *jasmine p.s. you received this email because a) you're on a mailing list that I'm on or b) you expressed some interest in indiepop, exotica and other less-talked about music type things. If you want me to stop bugging you, just let me know, and I'll take you right off! - -- -- -- -- -- - Looking for Indiepop / Exotica / Space Bachelor shows, releases and news? Check out the Bay Area's (and beyond) weekly source: http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) Re: Thrift Wars Date: 09 Jul 1998 14:03:24 -0400 > It is true that I don't like the >thrift score posts, but hey, I just use the delete key when it gets boring. I will confess that I have to wade through immense quantities of dreck--If I ever see another copy of _South Pacific_ I think I'll scream. Or those Firestone Christmas albums. . . But didn't we all agree about this months ago? That it all depends how much time you've got, and where you live--specifically the ratio of young hipsters to retirees. In Seattle you are hosed, but in shrinking industrial cities you can still find things. You figure, there were all those guys who made a decent middle-class wage, and who snapped up all the suburbanite luxuries--including a HiFi, and all those records of middlebrow taste which we prize so much today. . . yours in HiFi, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Pesonal relief Date: 09 Jul 1998 11:36:52 +0000 Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 98-07-08 16:28:52 EDT, you write: > > << ust like I hate it when someone meets me at a party and immediately after > the handshake asks "What do YOU do?" > But I think I've even done that too. >> > I tell people I'm a pornographer. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The who's kidding who project Date: 09 Jul 1998 14:36:01 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 13:33:56 EDT, you write: << Sure, you have to dig through mountains of loggins and streisands, but it just seems soooo much easier to find great, *cheap* stuff. >> some of the thrifts here in the south are real "junk" stores but the prices are amazingly cheap. i have been looking for some vintage stereo equipment. i usually get this stuff for $ 20.00 (i have 3 maganvox consoles that i got for about that price). what i need now is a Marantz to finish of the 70's era. you remember how expensive those things were in their day? i passed on a neat reciever about 6 months ago because the bulbs were burnt out. i could kill myself now. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Re: Thrift Wars -Reply Date: 09 Jul 1998 14:26:58 -0400 Ohhh, I just can't help imagining the basement of a thrift shop where = 100's of records are stored - everybody from "Exotica" is there, throwing = the records at each other in a total "Thrift War," while once in a while = someone screams "Don't throw THAT one - I wanna BUY THAT!" - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael D. Toth Subject: (exotica) Enoch Lives! 1998 (We want YOU!) Date: 09 Jul 1998 15:16:15 -0000 As some of you may know, for the past couple years, I've thrown these Enoch Light memorial birthday parties around his birthdate of August 18. The first year it was in his birthplace of nearby Canton, Ohio, with an emphasis on his mod 60s Discotheque stuff. It was pretty wild, with Light's grandson flying in from Minneapolis, and a local nephew and visiting neice of Light's turning out for the festivities. Last year, like Enoch himself, leaving Canton to invade the rest of the world, it became a NATIONAL deal, with a handful of promoters doing their own Enoch/Command-related events from Cambridge to San Francisco and points in between. One thing that was rather nifty was the events had different personalities based on the promoters/DJs, i.e. my thing in Cleveland was another mod go-go party, and King Kini's in Minneapolis was more lounge-oriented (and yeah, Lem, the grandson, stayed in Minneapolis last year). Despite all better judgment, yup, I've committed to doing a *third* Enoch Light memorial birthday event here in northeast Ohio, and hopefully some of you folks are also game to get things hopping in your neck of the woods too. The more the merrier! I've confirmed with The Avenue, a great venue in Kent, that the 1998 Enoch Light Memorial Counterespionage Go-Go Happening is set for Friday August 14th (the Friday before Light's birthday, Tuesday the 18th). We're expanding the surrounding fashion of the event to include the whole spy thing and other discotheque/spy tunes by Enoch's contemporaries as well. Among other things scheduled: Witch Hazel, a band from Kent (but internationally distributed; Real Audio samples from their first album LANDLOCKED available at CD-NOW) will be performing Free Design songs live. The goal was an entire live set of Free Design, but the band doesn't think they'll have time to learn a full set, so they'll probably mix in some originals and FD-esque covers they already know. So far, Mark from Evolution Control Committee has indicated that his other band The Weird Love Makers (which incorporates a bunch of Enoch samples, among other things) may be game for something in Columbus, and Robbie Baldock and Jill Mingo-go are in the initial stages of trying to get something to work in Scotland. Let me know if you think you'd be into doing a local live event, or even just an Enoch/Command radio special, somewhere around August 18th to contribute to the Light Gestalt. Like last year, we'll have a central Web site listing cities, etc. with e-mail/Web links to local promoters, etc. as well as "official" flyers you can use, or choose not to :-). (Last year's flyers seemed to go over pretty well) Also, I've got *two* 80-slide carousels worth of Command/Project 3/Grand Award etc. album covers, sheet music, reel-to-reels, etc. professionally shot on a photo copy stand (yeah, I DO own that many Enoch-related LPs). Let me know ASAP if you're interested in a copy of the 160-slide set to create the perfect ambience for your event, and/or your space age bachelor/ette pad. I think I've got around four people so far interested in dupes of the set and duplication prices per set go down the more sets I have done at once -- be warned though, it could still be in the range of $115 or so. Please forward this to anyone you know who may not be on the Exotica list, but may have a radio show/do live DJ gigs and you think might be into joining in on the Enoch Light synergy. Overseas people particularly encouraged (it looks cool enough to have multiple cities listed on the Web site/flyer, but it's cooler yet to have it *worldwide*). If you can't throw a party yourself, hopefully you'll be able to attend one in your vicinity! E-mail me directly at mtoth@neo.lrun.com if you have any questions and/or would like to contribute. Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) You Robots Have It EZ Date: 09 Jul 1998 15:41:01 -0400 > Maybe I get floored to discover that Kraftwerk's "Autobahn" was from all > the way back in1972 (think about what was on the top 40 at that point). Stranger still, "Autobahn" was a hit itself! I'm not sure exactly how it charted, but there was a single version and/or radio edit that actually got a good bit of airplay on the Led Zeppelin dominated AOR stations. Maybe even some Top 40 station rotation. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Thrift Wars -Reply Date: 09 Jul 1998 16:19:56 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 15:10:56 EDT, you write: << Ohhh, I just can't help imagining the basement of a thrift shop where 100's of records are stored - everybody from "Exotica" is there, throwing the records at each other in a total "Thrift War," while once in a while someone screams "Don't throw THAT one - I wanna BUY THAT!" >> What do you mean "once in a while"??? Jessica alone would bring in a dump truck to haul all the 25 cents finds she bought -- and (I hope your listening Michele) wait till you see that "Recent Finds" post. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Added Attractions Date: 09 Jul 1998 17:25:36 -0400 At 01:13 PM 09/07/98 Time, darren hutton wrote: > I once bought a record that had my name on it. Turns out that somebody with >the same name as me (and same musical tastes, presumably) liked to write his name on his records. I saw that one. The Twilight Zone right? Then you find out that it WAS you and you just couldn't remember that you sold that record a year or so ago? So you kept searching for this man with the same name and the same taste as you, only to find that it was you all along. But a smarter version of you since he sold the record and you just bought it. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: Re: (exotica) You Robots Have It EZ Date: 09 Jul 1998 22:28:19 +0100 M. Ace wrote: >Stranger still, "Autobahn" was a hit itself! I'm not sure exactly how it >charted, but there was a single version and/or radio edit that actually got a >good bit of airplay on the Led Zeppelin dominated AOR stations. Maybe even some >Top 40 station rotation. It got to #25 in the US charts in April, 1975 and #11 in the UK chart a month later. I still have my copy of the single! Bad translation time: Again, probably apocryphal, but legend has it that a Hong Kong bootleg printer produced a counterfeit of Steinbeck's "Grapes of wrath" called "Angry raisins". I miss Jessica too - where did she go? Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Sound Burgers -Reply Date: 09 Jul 1998 15:50:02 +0000 Previewing vinyl is not a bad idea at all. One advantage to thrifiting is the fact that there is ALWAYS a phonograph handy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clark Scheffy Subject: (exotica) swapping success Date: 09 Jul 1998 17:03:56 -0700 Hi folks: I haven't posted much in the past year, but I always read (as much as I can, anyway). Anyway, I had a Pasadena score last Sunday that I had to share: The Passions for 10 bucks. Booklet is in immaculate shape, vinyl is in great shape (VG +? -- little or no surface noise and visually very clean, about as good as 10-inches from the time can be expected to be these days), and a decent if not perfect box (a bit of rubbing, but all intact). Swaps are fun, eh? Also picked up Al Caiola's "... Spies and Private Eyes" record, another winner, as well as some British Now-soundy stuff. Thanks for reading. (West coast) Clark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Sando Subject: Re: (exotica) Added Attractions Date: 09 Jul 1998 18:17:14 -0700 >> I once bought a record that had my name on it. Turns out that somebody with >>the same name as me (and same musical tastes, presumably) liked to write >his name on his records. A friend about an hour out of town once called and said her neighbor was going to sell her a box of Lps for $5 and did I want it after she got all the sould and funk. I said sure and as I was going through my new stash i found a copy of Kenny Rankin's Silver Morning with "Steve Sando-1975" written on it and it was my adolecent handwriting! It turns out my father had borrowed it from me and he lent it to someone at his work and this is why I never lend out Lps and CDS, even to family members. MisterLUCKY, published by Coconut Grove Media Visit MisterLUCKY on the web: http://www.mrlucky.com PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (exotica) WELK: FW: Lite Bulbs Date: 09 Jul 1998 23:01:08 -0600 On Sat, Jun 20, 1998 at 09:25:36PM -0400, Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > << Q: How many Internet mail list subscribers does it take to change a > >light bulb? >> > > OK, so how may people are there on the mailing list???? > > Lazlo, are you listening??? Yes, but on tape delay! Between the regular list and the digest there are currently 329 souls on board. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (exotica) Deejay Simpletons Date: 09 Jul 1998 23:17:17 -0600 > But there really is nothing quite like watching 3 > generations of family dance to a song sung by gay stereotypes about a place > they can go for anonymous sex!>> Every single game, the music person for the local AAA ball club (the Albuquerque Dukes, one step down from the Dodgers) plays "YMCA" *and* The Ramones' "Blitzkrieg Bop" between innings. Everybody does the hand stuff for "YMCA". If you had told me in 1978 that they'd be playing the Ramones and the Village People at ballgames I would have laughed until I puked. It couldn't be any stranger without them playing "Beat On The Brat" after the batter gets hit by a pitch. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Les Belikian" Subject: (exotica) Sun Arise Plus Date: 09 Jul 1998 23:28:18 -0700 There've been a couple of posts about the Rolf Harris song "Sun Arise," which it says right here is "a chant Rolf heard at a corroboree ('sing-dance') in the outback" -- and who am I to quibble if the songwriting credits go to Harris-Butler? But what's even more noteworthy from my perspective is that Alice Cooper turned that very same song into a garage opus on the album _Love It To Death_. It segues right out of that other gem, "The Ballad of Dwight Fry." And on that note (no pun intended), speaking of segues (as it happens), there's an Alice Cooper tribute outfit called Billion Dollar Babies who are going to be making an appearance at Club Forbidden (who knew?) in my own hometown of Pasadena, California, on Saturday, July 11. Not that I work for CF (or for BDB or for AC or for RH), but the contact phone number's (626) 795-1259, if anyone's interested. Les # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) You Kids Have It Easy: The Easy Post Date: 10 Jul 1998 02:53:00 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 05:30:21 EDT, Moritz.Reichelt@munich.netsurf.de writes: << Obviously it was important for many Exotica-listers and record-collectors that their "hobby" (and it's much more really!) expressed being different.>> I believe these people, are rejecting/rebelling against the accepted norm - if this is an important aspect of it for them. Would they be just as dedicated to that style of music if it happened to be the top 40 - I mean the dominant/established musical norm? I think this is an interesting question. << Some listers expressed discomfort about the fact, that Exotica became so fab these days and supposedly "unqualified" people started to listen to it and not only that: "they" started to use the - "our" - style as their own self-expression! >> This is what really bugged the punks during the early years, no of course since punk is practically the status quo, we've all learned to live with it. << I think it's interesting how much of the stuff that is discussed in the list is obviously NOT about music, but about the style, the corporate identity it gives, collecting as a way of self-determination etc. Therefore it's not at all uninteresting to discuss these beyond-music things, even for those who consider themselves as pure hunters and collectors.>> Sure, but I guess I can understand that a lot of people find this issues dry and really don't want to be bothered. Fortunately for me, there's enough general interest on the list in "issues" to keep me happy. Also because I am a latecomer, I am not at all bothered by the fact that the industry exploits lounge. I am perfectly happy they do it and I suppose this comes from the fact that when I jumped into it, it was already a fact of life for you guys - it wasn't a private party being crashed as far as I was concerned. Also because I can into a very corporate-influenced scene, my experience of it all is much totally different than someone who had been collecting records when it was completely an underground scene. I suppose if I had been into it in the underground years, I might be one of the resentful ones who hates the corporate involvement. Talking of the young generations problems with difference: Maybe it's not their problem at all to want to be different anymore, if difference is mainstream anyway. Instead it might be of much greater importance for them to survive alone, wether they are different from whatever or not. They will have to find words instead of symbols to understand whats going on. Their problem is not to find ways to exclude themselves from society anymore, but to be excluded from society. Just being ignored and left to rot. Many would be happy if people would throw food at them. I agree with Nat: I don't think they have it any better than the generations before. >> I just had dinner tonite with my oldest dearest friend - also an early 1977 punk rocker and she can't remebmer her high school years either. Her immediate reaction was that she too had blocked it out. No, I dont think any kid would want to endure what we did. Frankly when I think of it, what that was really about was a rejection of the status quo soc (social) scene at school - not our parents. We were rejecting their little pecking order and they didn't like it. I believe that is why they reacted so violently to us. They new it was a rejection of them, no of society in general. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's Kidding? Date: 10 Jul 1998 02:53:02 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 05:48:06 EDT, you write: << Accordingly, it was bought by the very same people who bought John Denver, Olivia Newton-John etc. rather than by people who considered themselves record collectors back then - these were far more likely to collect stuff with a high coolness factor like blues, jazz, beat, psychedelic and progressive rock or classical. Face the facts, we are sifting through the musical debris of the past for underrated stuff - and the best place to find that is in the collections of people who did not follow the then-common belief patterns of musical coolness. >> I agree. But where the mix up seems to be is - what I'm saying is records like Olivia Newton John, John Denver, Elton John, these are all much more recent records. They may be the same type of collector, but we are talking about generations between, right. What I'm saying is I don't find anything from the 1950 or 1960's just this 1980s crap. Maybe the same type of person who bought Oliva Newton John records, had they lived in the 1950s, would have been the same people who bought Esquival - I don't know. What I'm saying is that we can't find anything that rare anymore. No 1950s or 1960s. Just 1980s drivel. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Thrift Wars -Reply Date: 10 Jul 1998 03:03:55 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 15:10:56 EDT, nminer@jhmi.edu writes: << Ohhh, I just can't help imagining the basement of a thrift shop where 100's of records are stored - everybody from "Exotica" is there, throwing the records at each other in a total "Thrift War," while once in a while someone screams "Don't throw THAT one - I wanna BUY THAT!" >> This sounds like a great one for the FARSIDE. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Who's kidding who's kidding who!!! Date: 10 Jul 1998 03:03:45 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 11:25:25 EDT, ChuckTFrog@aol.com writes: << I live in the DEEP South and when I go to my local thrift store I find the following mix: 40% Xmas records (Goodyear, Firestone, compilations, etc.), 40% obscure singing gospel families with photos of assorted relatives in polyester irridescent suits, big hair, evidence of weaknesses in the gene pool, 15% private label preachers, choirs, religious pageants, 4% Olivia N-J, 101 Strings, Kenny Rogers, trashed Alabama/Lnryd Skyrnrd/Molly Hatchet and 1% "other". Part of the reason I need to get pack to the West Coast !!!! >> Don't bother coming. You are just gonna find Olivia Newton John albums. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) You Kids Have It Easy Date: 10 Jul 1998 03:03:52 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 14:05:34 EDT, rotohut@ic.net writes: << Patti Smith got started in '75 or something--when even Michele was a wee tot ;-). >> Hey, I'm old remember? I was 15 in 1975 and was well aware of her by my 16th birthday. I always thought she should shave her armpits. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The who's kidding who project Date: 10 Jul 1998 03:03:49 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 13:09:27 EDT, bruno@yhammer.com writes: << Someday I hope somebody - maybe even somebody on this list - does a scientific survey to determine more exact percentages of Olivia Newton John, Juice Newton and Billy Joel records. >> It's gotta be millions. Most of the sales were in L.A...... - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The who's kidding who project Date: 10 Jul 1998 03:03:54 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 14:38:58 EDT, Rcbrooksod@aol.com writes: << what i need now is a Marantz to finish of the 70's era. you remember how expensive those things were in their day? >> I seem to remember one of my parents either had a receiver or turntable by them and yeah, they were like, "Hey this is a MARANTZ!" - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Trends and our "disposable" culture Date: 10 Jul 1998 03:03:47 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 12:47:55 EDT, brian@PHYRES.Lan.McGill.CA writes: << I think the real problem here isn't the state of things as much as each individual state of mind. The mass-media hype that seems to be aimed at making our choices for us only works if we let it. I don't want to belabour the point but things are no more or less hard for this generation than any other. Change requires commitment and no one will do this for you. What fuelled the new wave movement in music during the late 70's was precisely a large group of people who didn't like what they heard and did something about it. It fuelled the biggest independent music distribution movement I've ever encountered and some of the best music I've ever known too (hey now my age is showing...). >> I have to totally agree with this. You are all reiterating issues discussed in Robert Sloane's thesis. You should read it. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The who's kidding who project Date: 10 Jul 1998 03:03:51 EDT In a message dated 98-07-09 13:33:56 EDT, jasminej@sfgate.com writes: << On the west coast, it's like everybody is in on the secret. I drove an hour outside of SF, found some church-affiliated thrift store, and voila! All the 50s and 60s dresses, purses and hats were in a special section marked "vintage." Bah! >> Everyone knows it. All the little towns and cities are in on the antiquing phenomenon so it doesn't surprise me that they know about the records too. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Thrift finds Date: 10 Jul 1998 09:12:26 +0100 No use coming to the UK to find Esquivel etc in the thrift shops, I'm afraid. We have just the same as you (Olivia Newton-John-Denver) but no Juice Newton. In fact, I've no idea who he/she/they are! There are always a lot of TV-advertised compilations eg K-Tel, Ronco, Telstar which are usually unplayable as their extra narrow grooves don't withstand much scuffing. Puzzledly, Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: Re: (exotica) New Wave Date: 10 Jul 1998 09:12:24 +0100 >In a message dated 98-07-09 12:47:55 EDT, brian@PHYRES.Lan.McGill.CA writes: > What fuelled the new wave movement in music during the late 70's > was precisely a large group of people who didn't like what they heard > and did something about it. It fuelled the biggest independent music > distribution movement I've ever encountered and some of the best > music I've ever known too (hey now my age is showing...). >> Well, _my_ age is showing too - I was 30 in 1975 - and I'm afraid new wave left me cold then, and still does. This is a strictly personal analysis of that time, and based on the UK scene. If you consider the early 60's, it was possible for a group of four or five people to form a group and with reasonable practice make a reasonable sound. In the ten years up to 1975, it must have been more and more difficult to achieve the same class of sound that was in the charts then, e.g. The Carpenters, Abba, Moody Blues. Although seemingly just 'pop records', if you listen carefully to them they are very skillfully produced. Also, it wasn't enough just to play the guitar adequately, you had to be in the same league as Clapton, Peluso, Santana etc. I don't know that people didn't like what they heard - records still sold in millions - it was more that they couldn't join in any more, and so pop was 'dumbed down' and new wave emerged. Groups were formed and succeeded without musical skills. It seemed to me that how (bad) you looked was almost more important. I'd be interested to know if new wave is view more favourably by people who don't play an instrument. Perhaps I'm dismissing an entire genre unfairly, on the basis of (IMHO) guitar playing without inspiration? Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: (exotica) The Letkiss Date: 10 Jul 1998 13:52:55 +0100 A fair while back someone, I can't remember who, posted a query about the Letkiss. (For those of you who don't know, the Letkiss is a genre of tune occasionally observed on ballroom dancing albums). What is it, where did it come from, where did it go? I was intrigued by this, too, but I don't recall there being any comprehensive answer (although this could just be my faulty memory). Anyway, I have just picked up "Let's Kiss Kiss Kiss" by The Midnight Sun Letkiss Jenka Band, conducted by Harry Arnold (Polydor 184014). The liner notes may shed a bit of light on this hitherto well-shaded subject: "The 'Letkiss-Jenka' is believed to have started in the lonely backwoods of Finnish Lappland. "Just over a year ago it had taken the dance halls of Scandanavia by storm, spreading like wildfire through the rest of Europe just as fast as it took the news to reach the _caves_ of Paris and the clubs of Amsterdam. Italy, Spain and the whole of Europe had caught the signals from the headquarters of fashion both high and low in Montmatre and Saint Germain. "And now like modern Vikings the Letkiss-Jenka dancers set out from the shores of Europe to capture the world. "The secret of the Letkiss-Jenka is not just that it's another dance... it's a new dance, a wholly new dance, the kind of which has never existed before. "WARNING: Beware of imitations! Your guarantee that this is a genuine Scandanavian recording is the polar bear and the viking on the front cover. (The only thing we can't supply is the beautiful blondes Sweden is famous for... they're all already in America working as models.) "In a slightly more serious vein... remember this is a Scandanavian dance. To be sure turn the cover and find the official 'Letkiss-Jenka' trade mark. This means in brief that the song fits the steps." ** Unfortunately, there's no indication of what the steps actually ARE. There is a photo on the back of two ladies and two gentlemen in a sauna. They appear to have formed a conga line, and are smiling to a painful degree. The front cover is basically a lot of lipstick imprints, but at the top right I observe the official trademark cartoon: a viking with mead horn riding on the back of a polar bear. Some people might find this nauseatingly cute. I could not possibly say. Underneath is written THIS IS A REAL POLAR FINNISH JENKA-LETKISS. For some reason I find this hilarious. I can't actually find a date, but from the packaging I'd guess the mid 1960s. Anyhow, the track listing indicates a surprising versatility as to the various surface realizations a Letkiss might take (I haven't actually LISTENED to this yet, you understand): Side A: Letkiss-Jenka Bugle Call Jenka Doin' The Jenka Lapponia Letkiss Letkiss Nr. 2 At The Jenka Show Side B: Let's Kiss Kiss Kiss Jenka In Sauna Rillumarli Tropical Letkiss Strip-tease Letkiss Manhattan Letkiss That concludes all I have to say about the Letkiss at present. Thankyou. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sevo Stille Subject: Re: (exotica) You Kids Have It Easy: The Easy Post Date: 10 Jul 1998 14:59:30 +0200 Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 98-07-09 05:30:21 EDT, Moritz.Reichelt@munich.netsurf.de > writes: > > << Obviously it was important for many Exotica-listers and record-collectors > that their "hobby" (and it's much more really!) expressed being different.>> > > I believe these people, are rejecting/rebelling against the accepted norm - if > this is an important aspect of it for them. Would they be just as dedicated > to that style of music if it happened to be the top 40 - I mean the > dominant/established musical norm? I think this is an interesting question. Well, I occasionally manage to aggravate "cool" people with my affection for Euro trash. It certainly is harder for me to discover a gem in something which is currently in heavy rotation due to its inherent connotations, compared to sifting through forgotten records. And stuff like that may be even more unplayable in a club or radio set than any old record, because other listeners will not be able to view these records out of their social context. Nonetheless I still am interested in getting an "external" view on any music, whether in or out, old or new - and occasionally, it is possible to smuggle something into a set which most listeners would reject for being "uncool", and have them enjoy it all the same. And this is one of the most rewarding moments in DJing for me. Sevo -- Sevo Stille sevo@inm.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Hibarger Subject: (exotica) Re: Dave Dudley Date: 10 Jul 1998 09:28:39 -0400 Al said: >I had a odd two-fer recentely. Thrifted a mid-60s George Jones record. Inside, >was a signed color 8 x 10 of Big Rig Singer, Dave "Six Days on the Road" Dudley. >I should add, it was a fairly recent shot of Dave Dudley, he looked grey and >real worn out. I have a Dave Dudley record and I have to say that I was majorly disappointed with it...it looked like it was going to be these great cheesy songs about trucking and it was, but the performances were more like B-rate Johnny Cash as opposed to Red Sovine, CW McCall, Jimmy Dean or that guy from Smokey and the Bandit... If anybody really wants it or needs, I'll send it to 'em for the postage... Mike. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Nike commercial (again?) Date: 10 Jul 1998 15:31:39 +0200 someone (Yves Dewulf , off the list) contacted me to ask what music was used in the "Nike commercial with Ronaldo". i think this was discussed a while back, but i didn't follow the thread, as i don't watch tv... that guy described it as follows: a fairly simple latin rhythm, consisting of a short phrase that is repeated, by flutes/piccolos, going something like "Taaa- dada -dada". now and then there's a break with a short cadens with horns. it resembles somewhat to "Le ritme et la Cadence" by Dimitri from Paris. anyone? thanx! Johan quiet@village.uunet.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jordana Robinson Subject: (exotica) Re: Sound Burgers -Reply Date: 10 Jul 1998 13:40:54 -0400 Nathan Miner wrote: > In response to Charlie's recommendation of a portable record player. There's a company in Japan that makes portable players for around $100 (and available in U.S.). > > Saw this covered in a back issue of Giant Robot magazine. > > Don't have any specifics.... It was also mentioned in that issue of Grand Royal that had the pullout poster of cute vintage record players. Jordana eero67@geocities.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Nike commercial (again?) Date: 10 Jul 1998 13:49:56 -0400 At 3:31 PM +0200 7/10/98, Johan Dada Vis wrote: >someone (Yves Dewulf , off the list) contacted me >to ask what music was used in the "Nike commercial with Ronaldo". i think >this was discussed a while back, but i didn't follow the thread, as i don't >watch tv... It's the original version of "Mas Que Nada" by The Tamba Trio (the hit version was by Sergio Mendes). It's been reissued as a CD/12" single, with remixes. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Clark W. Draper III" Subject: Re: (exotica) Nike commercial (again?) Date: 10 Jul 1998 13:56:45 -0400 This song is also on the "Nova Bossa: Red Hot On Verve" comp. but no remixes. c! At 01:49 PM 7/10/98 -0400, br cleve wrote: >It's the original version of "Mas Que Nada" by The Tamba Trio (the hit >version was by Sergio Mendes). It's been reissued as a CD/12" single, with >remixes. > >br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: (exotica) Arling & Cameron Date: 10 Jul 1998 14:03:07 -0400 From The New York Times, Wednesday July 1 Pop Life: More Concept, Less Music; Hip Hop Battle By NEIL STRAUSS LOS ANGELES -- The Dutch music duo of Arling and Cameron recently had a brainstorm. They decided that their next album should be a collection of music from films, television shows and movies that don't exist. As Richard Cameron explains it, there will be themes for "Hashie," about the exploits of a drug-sniffing version of Lassie, and "Shiva's Daughters," a "Charlie's Angels" with Hindu deities. Such off-the-wall ideas, which merge retro kitsch with modern imagination, are the staple of the music of Arling and Cameron, who were recently in Los Angeles, looking for an American record deal for the label they run, Drive-In. Four years ago, stateside interest in cocktail music and lounge acts from the 1950s and '60s like Esquivel and Martin Denny, along with a rise of new bands making similar music like Love Jones and Combustible Edison, led some to predict kitschy soft-pop as the next big thing. It never took hold in the United States, but at the same time an international movement of similar (and more interesting) bands began to coalesce in Europe and Asia as record collectors and disk jockeys began trying to update their vintage pop, soundtracks and exotica. In France, scores of lounge-pop acts including Air, Autour de Lucie, Katerine, Etienne Charry and the Little Rabbits appeared. In Germany, bands like Stereo Total, Maxwell Implosion and Le Hammond Inferno took root. From Japan came groups like Pizzicato Five, Cornelius and Fantastic Plastic Machine. From England, there was the Gentle People, Adventures in Stereo and Momus. From Sweden poured a flood of bands including the Cardigans, Eggstone and Charlots. And from the Netherlands there was the upbeat, quirky duo of Arling and Cameron, making music incorporating languages and musicians from most of the other countries. On its latest CD, "All In," and the forthcoming "Sound Shopping," Arling and Cameron combines easy-listening vibes, strings and sound effects with house-music dance beats and vocal snippets, usually pop phrases like "yay," "ba-ba-ba" and "la-la-la." "It's a sound that's always happy," explained Gerry Arling, a bassist trained in jazz. "It's very difficult to sing a depressing la-la-la." Cameron said he was never interested in dance and lounge music until he began working as a bar-back to pay off recording studio rental fees for a more traditional songwriting project. While he was working there, a set designer approached him with the idea of starting a band. "He said his father used to be a Top-10 artist in the '50s and was now a general in the army," Cameron said. "And the only reason he wanted to start the band was so he could get an article about himself in a Dutch music magazine for fun." Since Cameron was disillusioned with the record business and the set designer didn't know the first thing about making music, they decided to make a band in name only -- with no music. Three months later, a Dutch music magazine wrote a feature on it. "I'd been making music for at least 10 years before that and I had at most two lines in the magazines," Cameron said. "And now I had a band without music, and I had an article with a photograph. That's when it dawned on me that pop was as much about the concept as the music, especially dance music." Cameron helped start a series of dance parties called Popcorn, and soon teamed up with Arling. As their first project together, they put together a two-record set made up of 19 remixes of one song. The wry pair called it "Airbag: A Tribute to Safety," because they felt that the music took up a lot of room but had very little content -- like an airbag. From their club experience, they noticed that people would dance to nearly any style of music if there was a house beat behind it, so they began making more diverse music - - "conceptual but not cynical," Arling insists. The duo's forthcoming single may be its most tongue-in-cheek synthesis to date. The group appropriates the robot beats and voices of Kraftwerk, a German group that has made a career of embracing electronic instruments and detesting rock-and-roll. Only the lyrics in Arling and Cameron's Kraftwerk song consist of a computerized voice saying, "We love to rock. R-O-C-K, let's rock." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift finds (Juice Newton) Date: 10 Jul 1998 13:17:04 -0700 At 09:12 AM 7/10/98 +0100, Hugh Petfield wrote: > but no Juice Newton. >In fact, I've no idea who he/she/they are! Juice Newton (a she - real name: Judy Kay Newton) was/is a 70's-80's country-pop singer. In the late 60s, she formed a band called Dixie Peach. In 1972, she formed the band Silver Spur, releasing albums in 1975, 1976, & 1977. In 1978 she sang backup on Bob Welch's "French Kiss" album. Her breakthrough (at least in the US) came in 1981: Angel of the Morning (#4 Pop, 1981) Queen of Hearts (produced by Dave Edmunds) (#2 Pop, 1981) The Sweetest Thing (#7 Pop, #1 C&W, 1981) Love's Been a Little Bit Hard on Me (#7 Pop, #2 C&W, 1982) Break it to Me Gently (#11 Pop, #2 C&W, 1982) Between 1985-1987, she had several singles that broke the top-10 on the C&W charts (but not the pop charts), including 3 #1's. Her last album was recorded in 1989, but she continues to tour without recording new material. Yee haw! Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) Arling, Cameron & Swarte Date: 10 Jul 1998 22:21:42 +0200 A conceptalbum by Arling, Cameron & Swarte called "Sound Shopping" seems to be out on Basta Audio right now. Anyone seen or heard it yet. Apparently Fay Lovsky (brilliant Dutch singer-songwriter) even does a guest vocal. Whoa! Arjan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) New Wave Date: 10 Jul 1998 17:01:17 -0400 > I don't know that people didn't > like what they heard - records still sold in millions - it was more that > they couldn't join in any more, and so pop was 'dumbed down' and new > wave emerged. Groups were formed and succeeded without musical > skills. It seemed to me that how (bad) you looked was almost more > important. Well, yeah, some of it did get pretty silly when the exploitation side set in, but a lot was worthwhile. Then again, it might be a generational thing. It was partially about finding noises to annoy the baby boomers, after all. You did touch on a point that I also see as significant, but from a different viewpoint. As a kid growing up in the virtuoso-obsessed days of early to mid-70's progressive rock and hard rock, the implicit message I received was along the lines of: "Forget it kids -- you couldn't do this in a million years. We're the gods -- you just sit there and listen." So although I had a strong music impulse, I never actually did anything with it other than beating some cheap bongos or making funny noises on keyboards when I could get my hands on them. Punk and new wave were a wonderful inspiration that got me off my duff, buying a guitar and learning to play and write songs by diving in and doing it. And then there was the natural process where most bands that stuck with it improved on their initial musical skills whether they wanted to or not. This is not to say that technical ability is a crock. That would be going too far to the other extreme. But when technical perfection and complexity become more important than content (and this was a condition that contributed to the punk reaction), that's not a healthy thing either. I'm not quite sure what your definition of new wave is, actually. It sounds like you include punk in it. The line can be a bit hazy, but I see them as being somewhat different. Punk: noisy, aggressive, pure guitar bands -- like the Sex Pistols. New wave: a wider palette of sounds and moods -- like Elvis Costello & The Attractions. Just my definition. But if you use that definition, I think one can find some snazzy musicianship. Perhaps Magazine, The Monochrome Set or Lene Lovich might bear that out? Just making guesses off the top of my head there. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Kontiki III - the museum expedition, Part 3 Date: 10 Jul 1998 23:07:33 +0000 If you follow the Thor Heyerdahl theories - that is if you go the way of the rafts and ships backwards - you will one day have to come to the roots of those mysterious white red haired tall people who had sailed the seas and gone west long before the Pet Shop Boys. They are described in the old tales of the Polynesians and the South American indians as well as the long ears or the people of Con-Tici-Viracocha. Heyerdahl never says that, but the old Vikings fit into the description of those mysterious immigrants like a hand into a glove. What Katja and I had seen from Scandinavia so far convinced us that seafaring is perhaps the major element in their culture to the present day. It was well proven that these people had traveled by boat virtually everywhere. The sinking of the Vasa only had shown how fearless and self-confident the descendants of the Bronze age Vikings must have been. And the percentage of Swedes who believe the Vikings had discovered America is 100. So we had phantasmorgastic expectations when we set foot on the land of the gods, the old Viking stronghold of Gotland. Could it be that we might find traces or any hint that would allow to draw conclusions suggesting a connection between this island and parts of the globe as far away and exotic as the Easter Islands? The first impression: It is very cold. A good reason to leave and look for places with a more comfortable climate? Have the Vikings actually been freezing? They must have: The Bunge Museum in the Northern part of the island