From: Kevin William Greenlee Subject: Re: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping... Date: 01 Aug 1998 01:11:09 -0500 (EST) If I may respectfully say so, it seems to me that perhaps your problem with thrift store shopping has more to do with your own attitudes and biases than anything else. By your own account, you were uncomfortable and ill at ease before you even went in- if other people were staring at you perhaps it was because they picked up on this sense of unease, this sense you had that you were in some way slumming. And then you say the store was "surprisingly" clean. Why was this so surprising? I'm sorry- it just seems to me that you went into the store with the wrong attitude- you expected a poor experiance and then- shockingly enough- you actually had one. I encourage you to have a more open mind and perhaps try thrifting again. I too shop at used book and record stores. And I can report that I have often bumped into book and record dealers at thrift stores, picking up items which they then re-sell for much higher prices in their stores. IN fact, in Indianapolis, there is a yuppie- oriented, high priced antique mall a block or two away from a large thrift store. I suppose I am one of the few people who is a regular patron of both establishments. But, anyway, the owner of the mall has admitted to me that he regularly picks up stuff at the thrift store for next to nothing and then resells them at inflationary prices to dopes who would never think to check out thrift stores.So again, pretty much all I can say is I really encourgae you to give thrifting another chance. Kevin Greenlee # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping... Date: 31 Jul 1998 23:48:47 -0700 At 01:11 AM 8/1/98 -0500, Kevin wrote: > And I can report that I have >often bumped into book and record dealers at thrift stores, picking up >items which they then re-sell for much higher prices in their stores. Me too. I saw the local record-shop guy at the thrifts, and since I occasionally browse in his store and our kids are in the same grade and school, went over to say hello. I made a mental note of the albums he was obviously going to buy (for 50 cents), and went to his store the next day. Sure enough, in his "just in" bin, there they were - priced between $5 and $20. I much prefer mingling with the down-and-outs at thrifts than being suckered into paying more at a trendy shop, simply because the clientele have better incomes! Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Popp&Basta&Scott Date: 01 Aug 1998 02:31:33 -0400 Hello Jeroen At 11:04 AM +0200 7/28/98, Basta Audio Visuals wrote: >I hope you can help me. I am from Basta Audio Visuals from Holland. My >company issues for example Soothing Sounds for Baby by Raymond Scott and >Delirium in Hifi by Andr=E9 Popp. Yes, I own many titles from your label. I am a friend of Gert-Jan Blom, Piet Schreuders and Irwin Chusid. >regarding new and re-issues of Raymond Scott, Andr=E9 Popp and Les Baxter > I am familiar with World Wide Web and email, but not with >newsgroups and that kind of things. Could you help me out ? Is there a plac= e >on the internet where you can ask questions to a lot of people in one time = ? You should definitely try the Exotica list. Messages can be sent to - exotica@xmission.com There are around 400 people on that list, including folks from Sweden, Germany, South Africa, Japan, Canada, England, Holland and the U.S. >I am planning on releasing the three Soothing Sounds albums on vinyl, but I >have no idea how many people would be interested. I would really appreciate >it if you would help me. I would think that a vinyl release of SSFB would be most appreciated by DJ's, as there is certainly much that could be used in a dance/chill out type of setting. I think a small run (like around 1000 pieces) would be sufficient for the albums. =46eel free to contact me with any other questions. I should be in Amsterdam with my band, Combustible Edison, later this year. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Tikifest '98, San Francisco Date: 01 Aug 1998 03:49:58 EDT Tikifest '98, San Francisco Friday, August 14 9:00 pm sharp Liftoff Productions presents the fabulous return of the last summer's biggest Polynesian-style Dance Party Live from Los Angeles it's the surf beat of The Tiki Tones plus San Francisco's own The Aquamen also mysterious solo vibraphonics from Fisherman and authentic sounds of The Kilohana Royal Hawaiian Band also don't miss Otto and Baby Doe's Tiki News shopping shack (selling gig posters by Frank Kozik and more) plus Tiki King's Tiki Trading Hut all this and Ten foot tall Tikis, a Tiki Mug giveaway, and the best damn Polynesian Drinks in town. One night only! Only $7.00 Club Cocodrie 1024 Kearny betw Broadway & Columbus San Francisco 986-6678 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) new Tiki bar, SF Date: 01 Aug 1998 03:51:39 EDT The grand opening of a new Tiki bar will take place this Wednesday, August 5, from 7 pm to 12 midnight Complimentary Puu Puus, free plastic monkeys with every drink, menu of Polynesian drinks (not complimentary) Music dj'ed by Otto von Stroheim begins at 8 pm To get in free tell the doorman you are on "Dj Otto's guest list" The Bamboo Hut is at 473 Broadway near Kearny in North Beach (San Francisco) It is part of, or next door to, the HiBall Lounge. It is cool. Drinks are served in Tiki mugs. Lighted blowfish hang over the booths. One wall is a faux lavarock waterfall topped with the coup de gras - a vintage wooden Tiki head relic from the former grand Polynesian palace The Coral Reef, Sacramento. This head dates back to the inception of that restaurant (circa late 40s) and is said to have been atop the roof of The Coral Reef. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Tikifest '98, San Francisco Date: 01 Aug 1998 15:34:07 +0000 Ottotemp@aol.com wrote: > Tikifest '98, San Francisco > Friday, August 14 > 9:00 pm sharp > Liftoff Productions presents the fabulous return of the last summer's > biggest > Polynesian-style Dance Party > Live from Los Angeles it's the surf beat of > The Tiki Tones plus > San Francisco's own > The Aquamen > also > mysterious solo vibraphonics from Fisherman and > authentic sounds of The Kilohana Royal Hawaiian Band > also don't miss > Otto and Baby Doe's Tiki News shopping shack (selling gig posters by Frank > Kozik and more) plus Tiki King's Tiki Trading Hut > all this and Ten foot tall Tikis, a Tiki Mug giveaway, and the best > damn Polynesian Drinks in town. > One night only! > Only $7.00 > Club Cocodrie > 1024 Kearny > betw Broadway & Columbus > San Francisco > 986-6678 Come on, Otto! Don't you know that for someone who's 5000 miles away from SF an ad like that is MENTAL TORTURE? MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping... Date: 01 Aug 1998 15:36:21 +0000 It looks like thrift shops are amazingly different. I went to stores all over America, big cities and little hole-and-corner-towns (I've got that expression from the dictionary) as well. There were times when more than half of my wardrobe consisted of thrift shop finds. I used to be proud that everything on my body costed less than 10$ all together. I just sold two Hawaiian shirts I bought in a salvation shop in San Jose 1979 for a Dollar to the Subliminal shop in Stockholm and got a copy of the Hawaiian Eye LP for it... And records, of course: Once you've found an Exotica 1 Mono or Perez Prado Voodoo Suite in lava red vinyl for 50c you wouldn't complain about some other junk that might be in the thrift shops. How about vintage Apple One computers...I know it takes to be a nerd to collect those but one day they will be incredible collectors items and you could get them for 5$ in a thrift shop in Glendale two years ago. Is Canada that different? MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) More URLs Date: 01 Aug 1998 15:36:45 +0000 Thanks for your constant inspiring supply of bookmarks, Lou! MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Lazlo, help Date: 01 Aug 1998 15:37:07 +0000 Lazlo Nibble wrote: > (For the record, > the two most regularly off-topic lists I'm on are alloy [the Thomas Dolby > list] and the dirtylist [for Underworld, Freur, et al.]. You're lucky to get > 10% relevant posts on some days...) I don't find that surprising at all. Imagine talking about Thomas Dolby for years on a daily basis... wow! MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping... Date: 01 Aug 1998 15:39:58 +0000 It looks like thrift shops are amazingly different. I went to stores all over America, big cities and little hole-and-corner-towns (I've got that expression from the dictionary) as well. There were times when more than half of my wardrobe consisted of thrift shop finds. I used to be proud that everything on my body costed less than 10$ all together. I just sold two Hawaiian shirts I bought in a salvation shop in San Jose 1979 for a Dollar to the Subliminal shop in Stockholm and got a copy of the Hawaiian Eye LP for it... And records, of course: Once you've found an Exotica 1 Mono or Perez Prado Voodoo Suite in lava red vinyl for 50c you wouldn't complain about some other junk that might be in the thrift shops. How about vintage Apple One computers...I know it takes to be a nerd to collect those but one day they will be incredible collectors items and you could get them for 5$ in a thrift shop in Glendale two years ago. Is Canada that different? MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Supermarket Music) Date: 01 Aug 1998 16:25:08 +0200 thanx for this info, Chuck! i've added your name (not your address) to my acknowledgement page. Johan quiet@village.uunet.be | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ At 11:59 -0700 98/07/27, chuck wrote: >Johan: >I checked out your exotica releases overview and you had a question as >to the relase date of Supermarket Music > >I looked again at the notes inside the Lorraine Bowen experience and >it was recorded in Copenhagen in 1996. There is really no other info >available on the cd not in Japanese. I'm not sure if it ws released >in 1996 or 1997. > >Easy Listening in the Big Easy, >Chuck > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: re:Re: (exotica) Popp&Basta&Scott Date: 01 Aug 1998 13:47:22 -0400 >At 11:04 AM +0200 7/28/98, Basta Audio Visuals wrote: > >>I hope you can help me. I am from Basta Audio Visuals from Holland. ah, that pesky Reply command! I didn't notice the cc to the list. Sorry for the intrusion. >There are around 400 people on that list, including folks from Sweden, >Germany, South Africa, Japan, Canada, England, Holland and the U.S. Hey, I forgot Belgium and Scotland! Sorry about that Johan, Jill and Robbie ya know, with all this talk recently about roll calls and lurkers, what other ends of the earth are represented on this list? Now that I think of it, we have Italy and Australia, too. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Humming Date: 01 Aug 1998 14:09:20 -0400 You can also hear Thelonious Monk vocalizing in the background sometimes. I wonder if the idea behind this might be to aid keyboard/mallet players in forming breath-sized phrases, such as a wind instrument would play. Keith Jarret must be close to a worst-case scenario, though. He doesn't hum -- he whines. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Yost" Subject: (exotica) reel fun Date: 01 Aug 1998 15:29:11 PDT Charlieman said: I wholeheartedly agree. After looking at them occasionally in thrift stores over the past few years and not buying because either: a) they appeared to be in questionable condition, or, b) they were priced too high for something that might not work at all, or, c) both a and b, I finally bought one earlier this year. It's a mid-1960s Akai in mint condition and they only wanted $5 u.s. at the yard sale. It works perfectly and even came with three tapes made by the prior owner. One is big band/swing music; one is stuff by Mancini and Kaempfert; and the other, entitled "Mood Music for Dining" contains tracks by Herb Alpert, Sergio Mendes and the like. What's amazing is the excellent fidelity of these tapes. They are 30+ years old, on a semi-fragile recording medium, taped from LPs, yet the sound today even on headphones is near perfect. Mounting the tape on the player and threading it through the complex tape path is fun too. There is something strangely satisfying about obsolete and/or antiquated technologies. Many of us on this list have 8-track tape players. Others have mentioned old video games (Atari) and primitive computers. My current PC doesn't have a CD-ROM drive, and instead of moving forward in time and acquiring one, I'd like to move backwards and install an 8-track tape drive right in an empty port on my PC tower. Whether it worked or not, it would just look cool. Finally, with the recent discussions about thrift store experiences, I must recommend the book "Thrift Score." It is the definitive guide to the art of thrifting. Very witty and entertaining and available in paperback, probably at your local library too. -- Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elisabeth Vincentelli Subject: re:Re: (exotica) Popp&Basta&Scott Date: 01 Aug 1998 17:45:42 -0400 I'm from France but living in New York. I don't know how that counts :) Elisabeth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping... Date: 01 Aug 1998 18:16:23 -0400 At 03:39 PM 01/08/98 +0000, Moritz R wrote: > >It looks like thrift shops are amazingly different. Is Canada that different? No I don't think so but obviously some Canadians are... even on this list. A friend of mine just came back from out west and brought a box of great finds including the Marty Gold "Moog plays the Beatles" and Harry Breuer's "Happy Moog" which he gave ME. But to tell you the truth, finding collector's items in thrift stores is not my motivation at all. Maybe you need to find a few every year to keep your interest high. But I like thrift stores In fact I love them. And if I go to a new town or even a new part of town and don't visit a thrift store, I feel cheated. And as far as records go, one of the reasons I go to thrift stores - as well as used record stores - is because of the records you would seldom, if ever, see at a used record store. I have dreams - waking and sleeping - about turning the corner in a thrift store and coming upon piles of records. But maybe I'm a dusty guy already. Myself I don't like antique stores. If they've got records, I might make my way back to them but all the time I'm thinking "Don't knock anything over". And talk about being stared at! At least at a thrift store, when you pick something up, nobody's looking down their nose at you wondering if you know what you just picked up. "Yeah I know what it is! It's a... it's a. uh.. one of those things you put flowers in" There are no wrong answers at a thrift store. To each, his own. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: Re: (exotica) tape fun Date: 01 Aug 1998 23:18:22 +0100 Brad wrote: >My current PC doesn't have a CD-ROM drive, and instead of moving >forward in time and acquiring one, I'd like to move backwards >and install an 8-track tape drive right in an empty port on >my PC tower. Whether it worked or not, it would just look cool. I'm not sure about using 8-track for data, but for audio it should be ok. If you had a spare serial port and connected it to a digital-analog converter, you could even change track by clicking an icon! That would indeed be cool. The era of the 8-track, for the most part, ended before the start of the era of the home computer, but I wonder if anyone ever did write a program to give the best fit of a 10 or 11 track LP on a blank 8-track, from a list of the individual song durations? It'd be an interesting assignment. Of course, 8-track would be too bulky for a laptop computer. You'd need a playtape drive for that. Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Thrift finds Date: 01 Aug 1998 23:18:25 +0100 Acquisitions from the Scope Shop in Croydon today. - EMI Studio 2 1969, "Go Hammond Go" - Wally Green and his Hammond Combo. Superbly recorded but unexciting material. Designed for ballroom dancing schools, there are some unusual tempos, e.g. "The good, the bad and the ugly" is done as a samba, ditto "A walk in the black forest" - Decca Phase 4 1968, "Focus on Phase 4 Sampler" 14 tracks from Stanley Black, Ted Heath, Edmundo Ros etc. Even a cut from Les Paul. Superb - RCA Camden, 1963 "Living Voices sing Rambling Rose etc" Arranged by Anita Kerr. Record so-so, but the sleeve is a masterpiece of kitsch, with a photo of a gal surrounded by roses, and the rest of the sleeve is in pale pink metallic finish, like pink cooking foil. I also bought three Andy Williams albums which, 30+ years on, sound surprisingly good, both in hi-fi and arrangement terms. Hugh. PS: If anyone can suggest a good place to try for out-of-stock Rhino CD's, could they mail me direct? Thanks. HP # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: Re: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping... Date: 01 Aug 1998 22:27:23 EST I figured there would be a whole range of response to my thrift store post and I don't want to give the wrong impression. Part of my problem is one of time. I no longer have a lot of time to spend record shopping as anyone who becomes a parent will unfortunately find out.. I used to spend the better part of the weekend "making the rounds" in all the stores here. Also, the sort of records I was interested in would never appear in a thrift store. Whose parents would have had Pierre Henry, Conrad Schnitzler or Residents records to give away to charity. Believe me if there was any chance I would find these sort of things in a thrift store I'd have tried it out long ago. It's really with the exotica stuff that shopping for used records has changed. I'm absolutely certain that the records, at least the exotica ones I pick up at my favourite store were most likely bought at a garage sale or thrift shop by the owner. He has to take the time to shop and also maintain a store but this is not unique to records and is much the same for just about anything collectible, unfortunately. Of course a huge number of used record stores I once knew are no longer in business and most that remain no longer buy much vinyl as they don't sell a whole lot. There was a time you could find Pierre Henry or Conrad Schnitzler records in used stores and often very cheaply too but I don't expect to ever find much more of the obscure non-exotica vinyl I want as the places to look are fewer and fewer with each passing day. But in response to Kevin's comment on attitude and expectations, I have to say I've spent a lot of time in some very questionable places that many would never dare go, so it's really not that. Remember I'm the one that told the list that Coney Island, NY was just about the most fascinating place I ever visited! It's simply about shopping in a store that clearly isn't a happy place to be in. To have to see the misery on the faces of the people that HAVE to shop there really doesn't do a whole lot for me. And the way I see it, if the experience isn't enjoyable why do it! But again I say to each his or her own... Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: Re: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping... Date: 01 Aug 1998 20:17:41 -0700 Myself I don't like antique stores. If they've got records, I might make my way back to them but all the time I'm thinking "Don't knock anything over". And talk about being stared at! At least at a thrift store, when you pick something up, nobody's looking down their nose at you wondering if you know what you just picked up. The thing that bothers me about antique stores is the fact dealers RARELY have a clue about how to price a record. to make matters wors, every time I pick up a record, they want to tell me how "rare" and "valuable" it is. I have to agree that some thrift stores are pretty sad places, but the good ones are like cathederals to me. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "keir keightley" Subject: (exotica) Billy May Live! Date: 02 Aug 1998 05:22:06 PDT Last night I witnessed something I never dreamed I would ever experience: "In A Persian Garden", LIVE!. I travelled to Edinburgh to see the 80-something maestro May and the BBC big band, along with a Sinatra wannabe vocalist, and was not disappointed. Tons of stuff from his 50s Capitol LPs, and 29 (!) musicians on stage, including massive percussion, harpist, and live hi-fi effects. In fact, in introducing "Persian Garden", Billy said he made the arrangement because "Capitol were experimenting with high fidelity in those days and wanted something with lots of different instruments". Ah, live exotica heaven... From BossaNovaVille, Keir ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Thrift finds - postscript Date: 02 Aug 1998 14:49:30 +0100 I forgot to list one particularly good find: On RCA Camden, 1971, Peter Nero plays a salute to Herb Alpert & the TJB I expected this to be rather tacky covers, but it is extremely well-thought-through. Great arrangements, sleeve deliberately like one of Herb's own, and a tribute from Herb on the sleeve. I am now looking for more of Mr Nero's work. Anyone recommend anything especially? Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: [Brian Karasick: Re: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping...] Date: 02 Aug 1998 15:27:37 +0100 > From: "Brian Karasick" > > weekend "making the rounds" in all the stores here. Also, the sort of > records I was interested in would never appear in a thrift store. > Whose parents would have had Pierre Henry, Conrad Schnitzler > or Residents records to give away to charity. Believe me if there I got my copies of "Messe Pour Le Temps Present" and "Duck Stab/Buster and Glen" at charity shops. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping... Date: 02 Aug 1998 11:24:00 -0500 > >I say this all for the simple reason that shopping for used records is >something I've been doing for nearly 25 years and I've spent a >lot of my free time doing it. I would have never thought it humanly possible to have bought records for this long and to never have gone into a thrift shop!!?? That's one for the record books (no pun intended). It made me think back on my own record buying past. I'm proud to say that my first record purchase was at a church sale. I was 6 and the record was Herb Alpert's Lonely Bull, so I guess I've been doing this 'exotica'/thrift thing a lot longer than I had previously thought. I don't think anyone has brought this up, it may be a touchy subject but, I get a feeling that those who distain Thrift stores just might have a higher income than the average thrifter. I myself suffer from "starving artist syndrome". I purposefully live in underemployment and this make thrift shopping a necessity. I guess I'm just really wondering what a demographics of this list might reveal. Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift finds - postscript Date: 02 Aug 1998 09:11:19 PDT Hugh asked: > I am now looking >for more of Mr Nero's work. Anyone recommend >anything especially? Yes: Hits from Hair to Hollywood (Columbia CS 9907), on which Mr Nero tries his hands at the moog. This lp also includes Bob Rosengarden on quica, police whistle and drums (which provide "the only sound on 'The Windmills of Your Mind' not created by the synthesizer."). ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: More FAQing Questions Date: 02 Aug 1998 16:27:27 +0200 peter_risser@cinfin.com wrote: >1) a list of web/internet sources several sites, including my own, have lists of links >3) A list of beginner's comps; ie: easy to find starter kits for the new >exoticat- i'm working on such a page, stay tuned. >7) A list of non-internet resources, like books, movies, radio shows, TV shows, >magazines, Vik's Lounge has a big and impressive page with books & magazines. Johan Dada Vis quiet@village.uunet.be "Dada'quariums Exotica": http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/ "Zounds in Cyber Space": | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Anyone for a FAQ? Date: 02 Aug 1998 19:28:38 +0200 Ross Orr wrote: >Q: Do people really LIKE this obviously awful music? the use of the term "obviously awful" is not exactly diplomatic, sounds patronizing and promotes prejudice, in my opinion. i'd try to find something more neutral, maybe "why do they like this music?" ... or ... "what is there to discover in this odd genre?" otherwise nice work! Johan quiet@village.uunet.be | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift shopping (and question) Date: 02 Aug 1998 10:32:13 PDT Some of the posts on thrift shop funk were interesting. I have from time to time not been unaware of a slight twinge of melancholy when stepping through the thriftdoor. Unchecked, it can develop into a vague nausea or shame. I say this because I suspect that I am tacitly harrowed by all of those less than tenderly heaped tribes of garments and objects, no longer under the radiant gaze of publicity, picked over by pensioners and the poor who have no choice. A sense of the perverse creeps over me: Existence as a calculated rhythm of consumption and disposal. I look at all this stuff, blurred into a single force and stripped from the context of the lives and the world it expressed and defined and think, at some level, these things fail us; I will die. The clothes-hamper staleness of these places is the stink of dead souls. So, Vergil in the Underworld of consumer society. Ah, black coffee. Anyway, the question is: does anyone know if the Disney (;) lp: The Enchanted Tiki Room has ever made it to disc? I found the lp yesterday and took it to friend's place to play (turntabe still dead) and it is wonderful, though a slight bit crackley. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, August 2 Date: 02 Aug 1998 13:37:48 -0400 "Space Bop" can be heard every Sunday at 4pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and is hosted by Brian and Cheryl. Space Bop features music ranging from Space-Age Bachelor Pad to Space The Final Frontier! Comments & questions welcome. August 2 - The Exotic Moog Perrey & Kingsley: Winchester Cathedral "The Essential Perrey & Kingsley" Jean-Jacques Perrey: Moog Indigo "Moog Indigo" Richard Sear: Love Child "The Copper Plated Integrated Circuit" Mort Garson: Aquarius "Electronic Hair Pieces" Jean-Jacques Perrey: Hello Dolly "Moog Indigo" Enoch Light & The Light Brigade: Bond Street "Spaced Out" Richard Hayman: Peanut Vendor "Genuine Electric Latin Love Machine" Gershon Kingsley: Bei Mir Bistu Shein "First Moog Quartet" Gershon Kingsley: For Alisse Beethoven "Music To Moog By" Sy Mann: Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer "Switched on Xmas" Gershon Kingsley: Twinkle Twinkle "Music To Moog By" Perrey & Kingsley: Strangers In The Night "Essential Perrey & Kingsley" Gershon Kingsley: Popcorn "First Moog Quartet" Perrey & Kingsley: Mas Que Nada "Essential Perrey & Kingsley" Jean-Jacques Perrey: E.V.A. "Moog Indigo" Bobby Setter's Cash & Carry: Tchip Tchip "Dancing at the Moog-O-Theque" Perrey & Kingsley: Unidentified Flying Object "Essential Perrey & Kingsley" The Bad Examples: Papeete "The River, The Night, The Moon, Temptation And You" Dimitri From Paris: Le Moogy Reggae "Sacre Bleu" cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) Richard Hell's Blank Generation Date: 02 Aug 1998 20:00:51 +0000 > "Brian Karasick" wrote: > I still remember the shock at > finding out only a few years back that Richard Hell's "Blank > Generation" was a re-written beat jazz song adapted, very artfully to > another generation. I'm shocked! Can anybody recall what's the original song covered/adapted by R. Hell? Thank you Gionni Paludi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) Italy, too! Date: 02 Aug 1998 20:00:51 +0000 on last exotica-digest "Br. Cleve" wrote to an aspiring dutch listmember (the guy from "Basta"): > There are around 400 people on that list, including folks from Sweden, > Germany, South Africa, Japan, Canada, England, Holland and the U.S. Hey! There's Italy too, even if I know of only two listmembers from our beloved land of erotica exotica (the other guy being mostly a lurker: ciao Andrea!). We now can start sort of an international rollcall. Are there people from other countries (apart those mentioned by brother plus Italy) in this list? Where are you from? Alohaderci Gionni Paludi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) Las Vegas Grind is Grand Date: 02 Aug 1998 20:32:36 +0000 > sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk) wrote: > Okay, what's the deal with the "Las Vegas Grind" CDs? > Saw these for the first time at the local record shoppe in the > "Lounge" section. Thought I remembered some discussion about them on > this list, but couldn't remember the gist of it. > and > "Michael Bennet" (Hi, Michael!) wrote: > Any recommendations for which of the three CD volumes of this comp > (Las Vegas Grind) to start with? I think reference is made to one my previous posting. On Wed, 1 Apr 1998 00:35:18 +0000 (hey, t'was me birds' day!), I (paludi@interim.it) wrote on "Subject: (exotica) comps on strip label": > Someone else had written: > > > Allan recommended Chester get "Jungle Exotica" - I wouldn't > > > recommend this to anyone unless you really know that they'd > > > like that very primitive RAW sound. I'm not sure you'd want > > > to start of a "beginner" with this stuff - his mind needs a while > > > to be s-lo-w-l-y twisted...... > > > While this stuff on the Strip label is fun, you're not going be > > > giving these discs heavy rotation once the novelty of the > > > tunes wears off. For the most part these are very boring > > > arrangements, a lot of them bordering on tedious (esp. the > > > "Jungle" stuff). > > and: > > I just can't agree, as the Strip Records discs have not left my cd player > > since I bought them. Yes, the tunes are raw, but also lively & > > immediate...it is not polite music! The tracks on Las Vegas Grind & Jungle > > Exotica sound like they were recorded in one take with no time for that > > fancy studio/audio trickery that seems to wow so many. Then I wrote: > Gee! Those comps on Strip (heading from Crypt in Germany), Las Vegas > Grind (voll. 1-5) and Jungle Exotica (vol. 1-2), plus other sequels > like Frolic Diner (Romulan UFO) or single issues like "Forbidden City > Dog Food", are SHEER GENIUS to me. REALLY THEY ARE SEMINAL, I do > thinks. They're raw & primitive, that's true, but they're NOT garage > punk; it's 100% FUN, with straight exotic attitude. That's what > actually lead me to explore the classic exotic music. Now I know > more, and love also other things, but Las Vegas Grind is the record > that started it all for me. I don't think fans of exotica should > dislike them and just refer to them as "trash": that's just what I > like about them records and - BTW - isn't that "trash" what you > find in thrift stores and garage sales for a dollar? > > Anyway, to understand how these records are grand and how > they were made just listen to the studio dialogue between Louie and > one of his recording artist in vol. 2 (vinyl issue) of Las Vegas Grind (a.k.a. > "Louie's Limbo Lounge"). > > Anyone else? > Gionni Paludi Still I think these records are GRAND and should find place in very exotica listmember discotheque. As I read you want to go for the cd format, I would recommend to start with vol. 1, and buy voll. 2 + 3 the very next day. I'd go for the vinyl issue, though: pictures of naked go go dancers are bigger! Attention: vol. 5 of LVG and vol. 3 of Jungle Exotica came out with a lot of bonus tracks (not included in the vinyl edition) in the cd issue. You'll find complete tracklistings in the german Crypt website. Go for them all! Gionni Paludi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift shopping (and question) Date: 02 Aug 1998 19:36:00 +0100 > From: "Ben Waugh" > > Some of the posts on thrift shop funk were interesting. I have from time > to time not been unaware of a slight twinge of melancholy when stepping > through the thriftdoor. Unchecked, it can develop into a vague nausea or > shame. I say this because I suspect that I am tacitly harrowed by all of > those less than tenderly heaped tribes of garments and objects, no > longer under the radiant gaze of publicity, picked over by pensioners > and the poor who have no choice. A sense of the perverse creeps over me: > Existence as a calculated rhythm of consumption and disposal. I look at > all this stuff, blurred into a single force and stripped from the > context of the lives and the world it expressed and defined and think, > at some level, these things fail us; I will die. The clothes-hamper > staleness of these places is the stink of dead souls. So, Vergil in the > Underworld of consumer society. > Ah, black coffee. You know, it's posts like this, along with some previous ones, that make me think there may be a touch of difference between N. American "thrifts" and British charity shops. In my experience, charity shops are generally INTIMIDATINGLY clean, brightly lit, and neatly laid out. Rather than having to scrape my hands clean afterwards, I often start to sneeze with my pot-pourri allergy, I feel a horrible itchiness as though I had been covered with Body Shop "Avocado, Pumicestone and Domestos Pore-Grubbing Gel" then squeaked over with one of those rubber-bladed windscreen wiper thingies, and I start to pine for the hideous squalor that is the interior of an operating theatre. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Richard Hell's Blank Generation Date: 02 Aug 1998 15:13:52 -0400 > > I still remember the shock at > > finding out only a few years back that Richard Hell's "Blank > > Generation" was a re-written beat jazz song adapted, very artfully to > > another generation. > > I'm shocked! Can anybody recall what's the original song > covered/adapted by R. Hell? > Thank you > Gionni Paludi You're shocked already? Sit down and have the smelling salts handy -- the original was authored by Rod McKuen. It is "The Beat Generation" (Brunswick single), credited to Bob McFadden & Dor. According to the booklet in the Rhino "Beat Generation" cd box set, Bob McFadden *was* McKuen. The song is pretty much an exploit-the-cliches kind of thing. The melody and chord structure is similar, but not exactly the same as Hell's version. Similar sort of rhythm -- the resemblance is heaviest in the chorus. But Hell clearly was taking off from it. "Blank Generation" having been one of my punk favorites for years, I was also very shocked to learn this. It was recorded for the film, "The Beat Generation" (1959, also released as "This Rebel Age") an Albert Zugsmith production with a cast including: Mamie Van Doren, Jackie Coogan (Uncle Fester!), Jim Mitchum, Charles Chaplin Jr, Vampira, Steve Cochran, Ray Danton, Maxie Rosenbloom, William Schallert (Patty Duke's dad), Fay Spain, Irish McCalla, Grabowski, Louis Armstrong & his band and the proverbial many, many more. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) Richard Hell's Blank Generation Date: 02 Aug 1998 13:17:05 PDT Si: "The Beat Generation," by Bob McFadden and Dor. >I'm shocked! Can anybody recall what's the original song >covered/adapted by R. Hell? >Thank you >Gionni Paludi ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift finds - postscript Date: 02 Aug 1998 17:13:49 EDT Peter Nero does a good version of Young Hold Unlimited's "Soulful Strut" on one of his LP's and there are two or three other good trax on it as well...AND it is standard thrift shop fare....Jimmy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift finds - postscript Date: 02 Aug 1998 17:14:54 EDT More on Nero---his arrogant facial expression on the cover of the previously mentioned LP is surprisingly repulsive # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) "Sound Gallery" curators' other releases? Date: 02 Aug 1998 17:20:03 EDT I'm sure most on the list are familiar with the work of "curators" Martin Green and Patrick Whitaker, who brought us both volumes of "The Sound Gallery" and the fantastic "The Sound Spectrum." Their new release is "Erotica Italia," which collects themes from '60s softcore Italian films. But what I'm wondering is, has anyone heard of their other two releases listed in the "Erotica" liner notes: "Cinema 100" and/or "Movie Grooves"? What's on them? Are they in the same vein as the other albums? And, perhaps most importantly, where on Earth can I *find* these discs? --Rod # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift shopping (and question) Date: 02 Aug 1998 21:05:44 -0400 At 07:36 PM 02/08/98 +0100, Peter Hipwell wrote: >You know, it's posts like this, along with some previous ones, that >make me think there may be a touch of difference between N. American >"thrifts" and British charity shops. I bet there are lots of differences. For instance, at a North American thrift store, nobody stops for tea. (Well, maybe in Victoria B.C. but I'm not certain.) And speaking of tea, last time I went to a thrift store - which I usually refer to by name, either the Goodwill or the Sally Ann - I looked high and low for a tea cosy but alas no luck. In truth, I have been to some clean, neat, well organized thrift stores but they're few and far between and when I walk in to places like that, I usually think I'm in the wrong place. However, there was something else in your post that for me pointed out the really huge gap between our two (or three or four) cultures. > then squeaked over with one of those rubber-bladed windscreen wiper thingies, "rubber-bladed windscreen wiper thingies". Clearly your street corners are not overrun by rubber-bladed windscreen wiper thingy-wielding street youth who extort money from motorists by trying to clean their windshields with their rubber-bladed wiper thingies. If you had experienced such a phenomenon, then you would know that those thingies are called "squeegees". If you lived in Toronto in fact, you would be in the middle of the SQUEEGIE WAR ZONE with local politicians and right-wing tabloids - inspired by similar British tabloids - calling for the extermination of the "squeegee kids". And here all this time, I thought that as a Canadian, I was acting as a bridge between the British and the Americans on the list here. It's kind of sad to find myself relating more to the Yanks on this issue. Of course, here in Canada, if you get to the thrift store as they open, you do get at the bargains first but on the other hand, they make you stand for "God Save the Queen". I tried to buy an Esquivel record once while the anthem was still playing. They took the record from me as if to ring it up but then they wouldn't give it back. I'll never try that again. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Non-finds and finds Date: 02 Aug 1998 17:31:47 +0000 There are at least two things I enjoy about going through records. 1. finding great music/ great cover art (or combination of both!) 2. learning about LP's that I might want to get some day. So, today I found some interesting records (the finds)...and found out ABOUT some interesting records (the non-finds). The Richard Marino Orchestra Out of This World LMM 13007 This would have been far more interesting if I had found the stereo version. Also, I bet there are far more successful attempts to do this kind of "ethereal" treatment of standards. However, there are some impressive moments that would have pretty good in stereo. There is some sort of electronic instrument incorporated in the performance which is not specified. The three sopranos doing wordless vocals was the real enhancer, though. As the album notes say, this is a "highly impressionic album to take you voyaging Out of This World on the rockets of your imagination." Well, if you are on quayludes or something anyway. The album is one Liberty's Premier series, so when you remove the record and sleeve, it has four very large circular holes through both sides of the cover (the ultimate "cut-out" :> ). Luckilly, the effect worked because the album came with its original sleeve (which completes the colors and patterns set up on the cover). I had never heard anyone say anything about this album...maybe because it's too laid back. However, like I said, it has its eccentric moments that take it out of the realm of just another Mantovani-type string orchestra. More later on finds and non-finds. Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Question About A Song Date: 02 Aug 1998 22:06:45 EDT I went garage saling yesterday and found quite a few jazz albums, exotica and pop. One album, Lambert, Hendricks and Ross has a song that I've heard before but for the life of me I can't remember who sang it. It's a sort of goofy song called "Twisted". Can anyone help me out with who sang other versions. I also got two organ albums: one by Ethel Smith and the other by Buddy Cole. I can't find any info on either of these artists. Any help there also? I finally got a copy of Les Baxter's Jungle Jazz album. On a sad note, I got an album called The Cool Scene which looked VERY beat generation, and when I got it home discovered the album was split in two. I was VERY disappointed. The song titles alone leave me weak. Gloria # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Russo" Subject: Re: (exotica) mallet-player humming disease Date: 02 Aug 1998 19:11:16 -0700 >It might be a musicians with mallets thing. At a recent duet Austin show, >drummer Sunny Murray was working his kit and humming madly. Then saxist >Sonny Simmons sauntered back on stage and showed how to really perform a >tune. > >MimiM Same with vibes player Bobby Hutchinson. He not only hums along open-mouthed, but he grimaces like he's experiencing a hernia. C. "Ratso" Russo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) finds and non-finds part 2 Date: 02 Aug 1998 18:31:57 +0000 Here are other disc-coveries: Ferrante & Teicher Broadway to Hollywood Columbia CL 1607 Another mono recording which is also available in stereo, however I don't think I will be actively looking for the stereo version. I was quite excited when I ran into this record when I spied a fragment of a sentence on the album notes: "...exploits with prepared pianos--plucked strings, tacked Hammers, wacking the lid..." "Wow," I said,"another prepared piano album I don't have!" I snatched it up and didn't think twice. Should have thought twice...or at least read the COMPLETE notes. The sentence begins "Here they abandon their exploits with prepared piano..." Oops. Actually, the notes weren't completely correct. The duo did NOT give up prepared piano entirely...still that plays a minor role to the full orchestra and standard piano playing. I would advocate this album above most of their later albums with UA, but that is far as I'd go. ---- Tito Rivera and His Cuban Orchestra Echoes of Havana Tops L 1637 A decent album that I do not regret buying for 50 cents. Pretty good sound for mono. These are good Latin big band performances, but nothing truly extraordinary. The cover is pretty boring with a dark picture of a guitar/drums trio performing on a dance stage (with, of course, populated with twirling couples). ---- Jorge Renan Wild Guitars KAPP KL-1270 Pretty guitar playing but nothing really "wild" as the title and colorful cover promise. ---- Kurt Maier Around the World Rondo-lette A33 I bought this more for the cover than anything else (7 women wearing bathing suits standing in shallow water holding colorful scarfs above their heads). It is mostly Kurt Maier playing the piano, but bongos occasionally make an appearance (especially in the Brazil cut--a medly of Bai-A-Ai, Quiereme Mucho, Perfidia and Cumana). The music was barely interesting...even with cuts which had the Latin flavor. ---- Other records I don't have time to listen to immediately but I have some hope for: Marjorie Meinert Sitting Pretty RCA LPM 2168 Dick Schory Carnegie Hall Ovation OV 14 10 2 Ruth Welcome Welcome to Zither Land Capitol T 1471 Ruth Welcome Zither in 3/4 Time Capitol ST 1318 The Paris Left Bank Musicians Holiday in Paris Bravo K 123 Bill Justis Bill Justis plays 12 big instrumental hits Smash MGS 27021 Miyoshi Umeki Miyoshi Sings for Arthur Godfrey Mercury MG 20165 Buddy Merrill Sounds of Love Accent ACS 5024 Buddy Merrill The Many Splendored Guitar of Buddy Merrill Accent AC 5022 (I am really growing to like Buddy Merrill. Check out my latest playlist #89 on the Mr. Smooth Website indicated below) The non-finds: Here are records mentioned on the sleeves that sound interesting to me. What do you think? On Polydor: James Last Piano a gogo Hammond a gogo (1,2,3) Trumpet a gogo (1,2,3) Guitar a gogo Humba Humba a gogo (huh?) These are all albums (according to the notes), "fur viele, viele Parties." Among the types of parties recommended: Pot Party, Hot Party, Cool Party, Beat Party and Bierparty. On Kapp: Artie Barsamian and his Orch. Seventh Veil KL 1090/KS 3044 Tarrangano and Orch. Surprise Party Latin Style ML 7511 Lani Royal Percussive Pineapples ML 7516 Joe Harnell Naked City ML 7517 Joe Harnell Asphalt Jungle ML 7518 Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Question About A Song Date: 02 Aug 1998 18:38:48 +0000 At 10:06 PM 8/2/98 EDT, Gloria wrote: > One album, Lambert, Hendricks and Ross has a song that I've heard before >but for the life of me I can't remember who sang it. It's a sort of goofy song >called "Twisted". I got the same album today! Twisted was done quite successfully by Joni Mitchell with a cameo from Cheech and Chong. >I also got two organ albums: one by Ethel Smith and the other by Buddy Cole. From my discological research (reading record liners): Ethel Smith recorded exclusively for Decca and her best known performance was Tico Tico (it seems to be on every other of her albums). For my money, Lenny Dee is the male Ethel Smith. Avoid her Christmas album however: it is too sanctified for me (unless that is what you want). Buddy Cole released several Warner Brothers albums which swing pretty well. He may have also recorded for Columbia as well, if memory serves. Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping... Date: 02 Aug 1998 19:19:42 +0000 At 11:24 AM 8/2/98 -0500, Frank wrote: >I guess I'm just really wondering what a demographics of this list might >reveal. I have been thrift storing and garage saling since before I remember. My parents were hard working veterans of WWII and Korea with three children to support and with the memory of The Great Depression. Thus, they tried to save by going to the PX (that's Post Exchange) at San Francisco's Presidio for large grocery buys...and by occasionally checking out the thrift stores. Our race car set came from post thrift store as well as many back issues of National Geographic. So, I just continued that approach when I finally started to buy stuff (as always, mainly records). That, combined with my eclectic musical upbringing, made exotica an always background interest of mine...and second-hand was always the main source. As a college student, I scrimped and saved everywhere. Not only was it a necessity, but I enjoyed the challenge of keeping up my record buying and putting food on the table. In the job market, I worked at public radio stations... and began to buy CDs. OW! Low income and high outgo. I still went to the thrifts (for everything but CDs) just to make up for the net loss from the new audio technology! Finally, though, I got a job that pays well enough to buy CDs and quality used records (and pay the important bills, too). However, I still go to the second-hand outlets because I find most of the more interesting stuff can be discovered there. The hunt is fun and I will continue to do it as time allows. I suppose if I ever find a partner in life, that type of recreation may have to change somewhat. I do include the mix of buying new (CD's) and from the web/internet (new and old), but I still mostly enjoy the thrift stores: I find the best stuff there. After all, the used record stores probably get their stock from people who go to thrift stores (I see these people all the time: they don't buy for their interests, only for what they know they can re-sell). By going to the thrift store, I save money, cut out the middle-person, and get the joy of the hunt. Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift shopping (and question) Date: 02 Aug 1998 19:20:05 +0000 At 10:32 AM 8/2/98 PDT, Ben wrote: >Anyway, the question is: does anyone know if the Disney (;) lp: The >Enchanted Tiki Room has ever made it to disc? Not sure about the whole LP, but the best part is on "Classic Disney" Volume II on, of course, Walt Disney Records (CD 60866): "The Tiki, Tiki, Tiki Room." Unlike other companies which seem to care less about reissues unless they see a HUGE audience, Disney seems to be on a program of reissuing everything it ever did again and again. If it hasn't reissued the entire album, I bet it wouldn't take too much prodding to get Disney to do it (especially if it ties into some re-opening or other product). Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Richard Hell's Blank Generation Date: 02 Aug 1998 23:36:39 EDT It's based on the beat exploitation classic "Beat Generation" by Bob McFadden (aka Rod McKuen) and Dor. It's a great (albeit cheesy, not classy) song. The only thing jazzy about either version is Bob Quine's swinging chainsaw- through-abandoned-car guitar stylings... --David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Question About A Song Date: 03 Aug 1998 00:06:37 EDT In a message dated 8/2/98 10:18:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Stilgloria@aol.com writes: > One album, Lambert, Hendricks and Ross has a song that I've heard before > but for the life of me I can't remember who sang it. It's a sort of goofy > song > called "Twisted". Can anyone help me out with who sang other versions. You may have heard Joni Mitchell's version, which is on the same album as her hit song "Help Me". Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) finds and non-finds part 2 Date: 03 Aug 1998 00:11:50 EDT In a message dated 8/2/98 11:07:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bag@hubris.net writes: From your list of non-finds: > Lani Royal Percussive Pineapples ML 7516 I've got this one and it is quite good. You should grab it if you come across it. It includes an excellent version of "The Hawaiian War Chant." Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) What constitutes a "thrift" store anyway? Date: 03 Aug 1998 00:58:47 EST Peter Hipwell writes: > I got my copies of "Messe Pour Le Temps Present" and "Duck Stab/Buster > and Glen" at charity shops. Not likely you'd have easily found these at most record stores here in North America let alone at thrifts! recliner writes: > I would have never thought it humanly possible to have bought records for > this long and to never have gone into a thrift shop!!?? That's one for > the record books (no pun intended). This leads me into the question of what constitutes a thrift shop since the sort of places I've always frequented looking for books, records, electronics and whatever else I may find aren't exactly catering to an upscale market, if you know what I mean. Church Bazaars, flea markets, record fairs and their like are social events as much as places to buy and I never miss those. I simply haven't ever gone into a Goodwill or Salvation Army store looking for records. Personally I think my aversion to SA is a fear in the back of my mind that I'll walk in and will be instantly targeted by an older man or woman in uniform asking if I'd heard the word of God today and I'd never be seen again. Well one of the stores I did go into was a SA and no the only uniforms I encountered were those Wal- Mart type smocks worn by the cashiers. I think it was a bit of an anticlimax! Now the other store I went into was at my mother's recomendation as she had donated some old clothes to it as part of some association's funding drive. The place was called Value Village and it was as antiseptic and organized as the SA and filled with much the same not too happy looking clientele and a lot of broken junk. I didn't think a whole lot about it beyond what I'd already stated until Cheryl mentioned she noticed they had a poster for a website on the door. So... we checked it out today and what do we find? It's an American chain of 125 stores and what's that, they deal in "collectibles"? We click on the records icon on the site and what do we see but a a photo of "Music to read James Bond By" followed by a bid list for collectors vinyl (with minimums!) and instructing you to make your deal with the manager of the store in question!!! Now my mother donated stuff to this place, so my guess is the charity drive in question collects and is handed over a cut (probably at xx cents per pound) for the merchandise. I'm beginning to see a pattern that's really starting to make me sick. This aside though, no wonder none of the records in it were good. The best ones were probably hived off by the store to more lucrative markets than Winnipeg, Manitoba. I kid you not, it's all there. Check out the site yourselves if you don't believe me! So that's why I'm a bit confused about what a thrift store really is. How long until the Salvation Army gets in on the act? I haven't looked for a website but I can't bring myself to do so... Nat Kone writes: > >You know, it's posts like this, along with some previous ones, that > >make me think there may be a touch of difference between N. American > >"thrifts" and British charity shops. Judging from my discoveries, this would be somewaht of an understatement! "Only in America" as they say... > Of course, here in Canada, if you get to the thrift store as they open, you > do get at the bargains first but on the other hand, they make you stand for > "God Save the Queen". I tried to buy an Esquivel record once while the > anthem was still playing. They took the record from me as if to ring it up > but then they wouldn't give it back. Well Canada is not all the same, as over here in Quebec, the next province over from the one containing Toronto, you'd be as likely to hear this being played as you would the Israeli national anthem in the Syrian legislature! I think only the Belgian(s) on the group will be able to relate to this one though. I wonder if there's a mandatory Lord's Prayer at the Salvation Army. Now you're really scaring me into thinking my first experience there was maybe just a lucky coincidence... Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Swap meet finds... Date: 03 Aug 1998 01:04:06 EDT Okay you thrift scores people: As you all know, I don't do thrift stores (mostly because I don't have the time), so every few months I go to the local record swap meet here in Los Angeles (the Pasadena swap meet) and I thought I'd post what I got and for how much - for those of you who are curious. I spent 3 hours and $75. I got quite a few things I wanted or had been recommended over the months from list members. Some of the stuff I just bought because I was curious about the artist, like Geo. Shearing, Dave Brubeck, Edmundo Ros and Walter Wanderley. Total spent $75 (About the cost of 4 or 5 CD re-issues). It's a lot of money, but when you consider I wasn't buying blindly (i.e., got alot of stuff that had been reccomended) and when you factor in my time, I think I did pretty well. All the vinyl is in near mint condition and I didn't have to spend hours and hours driving to thrift stores, etc. But considering the expense, I probably won't listen to this stuff for a month or two (when I've forgotten how much I spent). The asking price is in parentheses and the final price I paid after haggling, is the discount price: Dealer #1: The James Bond Thrillers - Roland Shaw Orchestra ($6) More Themes From James Bond Thrillers - Roland Shaw Orch. ($6) Edmundo Ros - Dancing With Ros ($4) TV Action Jazz! - Mundell Lowe ($4) Total = $21. After discount, $15 Dealer #2: Mr. Lucky Goes Latin ($7) Total = $7. After discount, $5 Dealer #3, A half-price sale: 9 Beats To The Bar - The Benet Hallberg, Nisse Engstrom.... ($15) More Music From Peter Gun ($6) Combo! - Mancini ($15) Batucada - W. Wanderley ($10) Brass & Bamboo - Tak Shindo ($6) Best of Rene Touzet ($6)' Rain Forest - W. Wanderley ($6) On The Sunny Side of the Strip ($6) Dave Brubecks Greatest Hits ($6) Total = $74, after discount $37 Dealer #4: Movin 'n' Grovin' - The 3 Suns ($8) Bossa Nova Brazil: Brazil To Hollywood - Rene Touzet ($6) Explosive Brass Impact, Vol. 2 - Warren Kime ($6) Total = $20, after discount $18 - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Recommendations needed Date: 03 Aug 1998 01:04:09 EDT Oh my recent shopping trip (see swap meet posts) I picked up a few artists I didn't know anything about and was looking for a few others I couldn't find. I was wondering if I could get recommendations of albums to look for by the following: Bert Kaempfurt Dave Brubeck George Shearing Edmundo Ros I realize these artists may have been discussed in the past, but unfortunately we don't have an archive with a search engine that would enable me to search for these. I think it would be great if we could add some of the recommendations to the Faqs list that Ross is making up - that way we don't have to keep repeating this info over and over. I realize that could be problematic but we could just limit it to like 3 or 4 albums per artist. What do you guys think? And does anyone have any recommendations about the above artists? I will ad them to my next shopping trip. Thanx in advance, Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping... Date: 03 Aug 1998 02:14:19 EDT In a message dated 98-08-02 11:23:25 EDT, recliner@ime.net writes: << I don't think anyone has brought this up, it may be a touchy subject but, I get a feeling that those who distain Thrift stores just might have a higher income than the average thrifter. I myself suffer from "starving artist syndrome". I purposefully live in underemployment and this make thrift shopping a necessity. >> As I've said before, If I only had the time..... I'd go to thrift stores. But if you work full time,are a graduate student, write for a fanzine and have a few other misc. hobbies (like fish keeping), not to mention a household to maintain, the time shopping in thrifts has a very high opportunity cost. Of course if you are dirt poor, you got to do the thrifts. But my life is set up the opposite way so my time is so valuable and I can't spend it driving around weekend after weekend looking in thrift stores. Who's going to do my research, write my paper, etc.? So those with no time have to pay the dealers. Its costs alot, but hey, that paper gets written. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping... Date: 03 Aug 1998 02:14:07 EDT In a message dated 98-08-01 02:37:27 EDT, davidson@serv.net writes: << Me too. I saw the local record-shop guy at the thrifts, and since I occasionally browse in his store and our kids are in the same grade and school, went over to say hello. I made a mental note of the albums he was obviously going to buy (for 50 cents), and went to his store the next day. Sure enough, in his "just in" bin, there they were - priced between $5 and $20. >> Now doesn't that just burn you up! But then again, unless you ahve lots of time you hare going to have a hard time beating the dealers to their sources. We all know how this goes at swap meets, garage sales, etc. What I really hate is having bought something from a dealer at one place and then finding it cheaper at another dealer. It hasn't happened in awhile because I kind of know who's got the best prices now, but when I first started, it happened a few times. We live and learn. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: Re: (exotica) finds and non-finds part 2 Date: 02 Aug 1998 21:24:20 -0800 >Ferrante & Teicher Broadway to Hollywood Columbia CL 1607 >I would advocate this album above most of their later albums with UA, but >that is far as I'd go. that is unless one prefers their syrupy cover versions of sixties pop tunage, like myself ! paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: (exotica) Gleason Discography Date: 02 Aug 1998 23:42:17 -0800 anyone here ever seen a Gleason Discography anywhere? i have oodles of his Lps but wonder how close i am to having the complete collection. in particular, i wonder what his last 'studio' effort of 'new' material was ? paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Recommendations needed Date: 02 Aug 1998 23:00:23 +0000 At 01:04 AM 8/3/98 EDT, Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: >I was wondering if I could get recommendations of albums to look for by >Bert Kaempfurt Try: ...love that Bert Kaempfert Decca DL 74986 It has a 2:45 version of Caravan which is quite unique and one of my favorite arrangements (which, by the way, I learned about on this list). Can't vouch for anything else he has done, however. >Dave Brubeck I think everything he did is great, but you can't go wrong with a mint copy of anything he did on Fantasy, his first label. IF you can find his Fantasy stuff, it is not liable to be in good condition, so near mint or even a little less than that would be good (At the time he was big with the college crowds, and most records sold would have been ruined by those portable players students used in their dorms...my theory, anyway). I also like his Columbia releases, but he did get a bit too thematic at times. His "time" record (s?) were truly interesting. He also recorded for Concord, but it is not the classic Dave Brubeck for my money. >George Shearing Funny thing. Like Brubeck, Shearing also recorded for Concord, but I'd recommend concentrating on the earlier Capitol recordings. I like all of them, but the straightforward unadulterated Shearing seems best to me (where he has only a small ensemble and isn't playing with another "name" performer). Capitol put out some great covers for Shearing, if you care about such things. >Edmundo Ros Closest to exotica. Some people on the list DO NOT like him, although I can't understand why. I like his humor. He definitely has a sound of his own. His two Ros on Broadway albums are some of the best Broadway-themed records around. Also Hollywood Cha Cha Cha, Arriba, and Bongos from the South are great: all on London. My two cents worth. Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Question About A Song Date: 03 Aug 1998 04:05:33 -0400 At 10:06 PM 02/08/98 EDT, Stilgloria@aol.com wrote: >>I also got two organ albums: one by Ethel Smith and the other by Buddy Cole. I >can't find any info on either of these artists. Any help there also? Ethel Smith? I have a record by her called "Ethel Smiths' Cha Cha Cha Album". Good title, eh? And it has two standout cuts. "Sk-ratch" (written by Quincy Jones) and "Flirtation Mambo". But this is the only record of hers that I've ever thought was worth keeping... unless you keep everything. I know some people here call Lenny Dee, the "male Ethel Smith" but as "p.c" as that may be, cut for cut Lenny blows her out of the water. And I know that I may be dealing in distinctions which are too fine to discern by the human ear but I'd say Lenny is simply a better musician. I like some of Ethel's cuts but I don't think she's actually that good. But if you like Ken Griffin, you'll love Ethel. Buddy Cole records I bought at one point but now I don't unless there's really nothing else. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) finds and Hawaiian records Date: 03 Aug 1998 04:05:36 -0400 At 06:31 PM 02/08/98 +0000, bag@hubris.net wrote: > >Here are other disc-coveries: And here are the ones that make me jealous: >Kurt Maier Around the World Rondo-lette A33 >I bought this more for the cover than anything else (7 women wearing >bathing suits standing in shallow water holding colorful scarfs above their >heads). I must have that cover. >Ruth Welcome Welcome to Zither Land Capitol T 1471 >Ruth Welcome Zither in 3/4 Time Capitol ST 1318 Those two make me jealous... NOT! >Buddy Merrill Sounds of Love Accent ACS 5024 >Buddy Merrill The Many Splendored Guitar of Buddy Merrill Accent AC 5022 But Buddy Merrill, that totally makes my insides crawl with jealousy. Even if the titles of the records are a little scarey. The one Buddy Merrill record I have, I think I would put in my top 100 of all time. And if anyone's making a definitive list of great "exotica" cuts, I'd like to nominate "Escondido" by the same Mr. Merrill. >Here are records mentioned on the sleeves that sound interesting to me. >What do you think? > >On Polydor: James Last I can't believe there's a James Last record worth fantasizing about. I ignored them for years but then someone mentioned "Voodoo" and when I saw it, I bought it... and okay, it's kind of interesting if you like warmed-over Santana. It's apparently a bit of a "D.J's" record - owing mostly to the cut "Giant Man" - and I've been told it's hard to find so maybe that's a reason to take it if you see it. It's definitely wilder than most James Last. I'm sure someone will write in and identify other decent James Last cuts but still, all in all, I think you can basically ignore him unless there's really nothing else to buy. >Lani Royal Percussive Pineapples ML 7516 This record is... okay. There are really only a few cuts which support the "percussive" in the title. The version of "Hawaian War Chant" is the only cut that's really distinct from your average okay Hawaiian record. And this brings up a real dilemna for me. Hawaiian records. You should have a few I figure. ("Should" kind of makes me laugh there but..) I don't buy every Hawaiian record that I see but I can't really explain why I buy what I buy and reject the others. The only clear thing I can say is I buy all the ones with naked women or barely clothed women on the cover. (But that's true for any genre.) I've kept about twenty or so and except for the ones that were rejected for music but accepted for the cover, I got rid of the rest. I used to think that there was a clear if subtle difference between the Hawaaian records I kept and the ones I rejected. But the last time I was looking for a Hawaaian cut or two for some tapes I was making, whatever I'd seen in those records that made me keep them in the first place, seemed to have eluded me. Does anyone else know what I'm talking about here? Okay there are a couple of okay bands or arrangers. The Surfmen, certain records by Webley Edwards - but not all - and certain things by Leo Addeo but otherwise, boy are these records indistinct from each other. I know some people make the distinction between Hawaiian records recorded in Hawaii and the vast majority apparently recorded in Nashville but that difference also seems to elude me. Sweet Leilani is pretty well Sweet Leilani whether it's a Nashville session steel player or a "genuine" Hawaiian musician. Should I keep buying these or should I give up on the genre? (Except for the occasional uh.. covers.) Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Recommendations needed Date: 03 Aug 1998 04:54:08 -0400 At 01:04 AM 03/08/98 EDT, Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: >I was wondering if I could get recommendations of albums to look for by the >following: > >Bert Kaempfurt A musician like Bert here points up for me a dilemna I always have when responding to things like this on this list. (But it doesn't stop me.) You see, I know that there are some here who seem to keep everything they buy as long as it's kind of okay. I know I've bought a bunch of Bert records over the years but when I go to the shelves to find one to recommend, there's nothing there. I must have given them away to friends of mine who like the same stuff I do except THEY LIKE EVERYTHING. A guy like Bert Kaempfert, you certainly can't say "Oh he's crap!" because he isn't crap. He's a talented arranger and musician blah blah blah. But if there is a really extraordinary B.K. record that's actually worth going out of your way to find, I'll be pleasantly surprised to hear about it. I think that Bert was working in the same general area as a few guys that I do like and I can't understand why I almost always keep David Carroll records - in fact I almost never make a lounge tape without a few of his cuts - but I apparently never keep Bert Kaempfert records. For all I know it was kind of "accidental". So yeah, no Bert recommendations from this corner. >Dave Brubeck I think they're probably all pretty much the same as long as they have Paul Desmond on them and not Dave's kids, the Brubeck Generation. Brubeck was sort of jazz for people with no jazz records. I know some jazz fans and collectors who see him as nothing less than the Antichrist. Since I've gotten into lounge, I've given up most of my jazz snobbery. Hard to be a snob while you're tapping your foot to Lenny Dee. So I sort of thought I'd get around to reassessing Brubeck but somehow he still doesn't make it. I guess I don't mind fake jazz when there are no pretensions to real jazz. But Brubeck still has the pretensions for me. And the man had no soul. But Paul Desmond on the other hand, Brubeck's usual reedman.. He was/is a great musician. And he can make you tolerate any Brubeck record. So again, from this corner, they're all pretty much the same. Okay. >George Shearing Well first, George has some of the greatest album covers of all time. I can recommend an early record called "Shearing in Hi Fi" with a wild sort of psychedelic hi fi cover and surprisingly for George, no babes. It's got Cal Tjader on vibes and Toots Thieleman (called "Jean" in those days) on guitar. It's quite a cool Latinesque record. In fact this was the record that made me rethink George who before that, for me, was just the man with the babe-o-licious covers. It's an old cliche but I'd say look for "his earlier ones", preferably with Cal Tjader in the group and preferably with a Latin bent. >Edmundo Ros >I realize these artists may have been discussed in the past, Yes well Edmondo was extensively discussed a few months back not long after I joined the list and as one of the Edmondo-trashers, I probably should recuse myself from this discussion. But I won't. I've bought well over a dozen Edmondo records and kept four. Two of the best are on Phase Four. One of them is the oft-mentioned "Hair Goes Latin" where he covers the songs from "Hair" and the other one is "Heading South of the Border" where he does a surprisingly fun cover of "United We Stand". I think someone else will mention another record on Phase Four called "Arriba" but I warn you, if you like playing your records all the way through, don't buy this record. I'm not going to dredge up the Edmondo vs. Cugat or Edmondo vs.Prado debate again but let's see if I can make an analogy. If you loved grunge or alternative music, you might have loved Alice in Chains too. If you liked that sound, they had that sound too. If you like these "pop Latin" records, well Edmondo made them. And if you want to have as many as you can find, you'll definitely have some Edmondo records. But I strongly suspect that if you'd asked Edmondo himself about his records versus Cugat's or Prado's, he himself would have said that those guys were "too way out" for his or his audience's taste. Just my guess anyway. Nat, responding to lots of posts this morning. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Swap meet finds... Date: 03 Aug 1998 04:54:10 -0400 At 01:04 AM 03/08/98 EDT, Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: >Okay you thrift scores people: >Dealer #1: >TV Action Jazz! - Mundell Lowe ($4) I don't think I should respond to any more of these lists today but I thought someone would be interested to know that this record, which I've bought a few times and which I think is a pretty cool record... was according to his own account, the first record purchased with his own money by Lester Bangs. And if you're now saying "Who?", never mind. Nat. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco 'Kallie' Kalnenek Subject: (exotica) recommendations needed Date: 03 Aug 1998 11:54:25 +0200 > At 01:04 AM 03/08/98 EDT, Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > >I was wondering if I could get recommendations of albums to look for by the > >following: > > > >Bert Kaempfert One really nice Kaempfert lp is April in Portugal (Decca, 60's). All songs have something to do with Portugal, which makes it rather exotic. Not WILD exotic, but NICE'N'EASY exotic... > >Edmundo Ros Well, Edmundo is a bit too 'soft' for me most of the times, but his album with Ted Heath 'Swing meets latin' (Decca, 1960's) is really great. It has the orchestra of Ros on one channel and Heath's big band on the other channel. They play tracks like "Speak low', 'Malaguena' and the aptly titled "Ted meets Ed'. Marco K. (listening to an album by Frank Chacksfield...) visit Record Collector's Heaven, yet another site about Exotica, Space Age Pop and weird records in general: http://members.xoom.com/Kallie/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Recommendations needed Date: 03 Aug 1998 12:25:58 +0100 Bert Kaempfurt The one I really like is 'Swinging Safari' from about 1962 or 64. It has 'Swinging safari' on it which was used for some sort of TV theme over here in the UK, and also 'The happy trumpeter', 'Wimoweh' and 'Zambesi'. I don't know but these are recommendations for me, but I think they might put some people off. Can't really say much about any of the others, I have some Edmundo Ros, and its OK, one good track an LP, but nothing I'd really recommend. As for humming I've got a Slim Gaillard and Slam Stewart tape someone did for me of stuff that was recorded in the 40's. Slam Stewart played double bass and would often play solo's with a bow, humming and occasionally groaning along with it. he had a pretty good sense of what was in tune though. Also I recently bought new an LP with only the words Ed Lincoln on the cover with a picture of about 4 couples dancing in a ballroom shot from overhead. There is no information on the sleeve apart from the address of the record company (in Brazil) and the track listing. I assume Ed Lincoln is the artist. It really is a great LP. The ,man in the shop that sold it too me said that it was popular with Dance Jazz DJs. But its much more leftfield in a kind of Mambo fashion with Kazoos and some great organ work on it. Does anyone know anything about this record, and more like it? Il Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.sgillitt.dircon.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Humming Date: 03 Aug 1998 07:33:43 -0400 >Keith Jarret must be close to a worst-case scenario, though. He doesn't >hum -- he whines. Were that all that he does! He whines, hums, goes "HA!" amongst other things. Seeing him live, he grimaces, smiles and rubs up against the piano in a manner that I fear will give birth to spinets. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) What constitutes a Date: 03 Aug 1998 04:59:50 PDT No, but there would be a mandatory kick in the privates if you didn't hop to when one the red-vested militiamen barked "comin' through", wheeling his cart full of bric-a-brac past you as you squatted by the records. >I wonder if there's a mandatory Lord's Prayer at the Salvation Army. Now you're really scaring me >into thinking my first experience there was maybe just a lucky >coincidence... > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift shopping (and question) Date: 03 Aug 1998 14:02:39 +0000 A) I really don't understand this shame of buying in a thrift shop: The more you buy there the better the shop runs and the better for those who deserve shopping there. No??? B) Burning ENVY about your Enchnated Tiki Room LP. Unlike Byron I don't think it'll appear on CD though, because Disney wouldn't bring it out themselves (they would rather close the attraction, if Walt hadn't decreed in his last will that Tiki Room must never be shut down) and Disney wouldn't give away the rights to others. I hope I will be disproven. The only thing I have in my bag to counter this incredible find is my tape of the original soundtrack of Tiki Room, that a friend smuggled out of the magick kingdom... BTW: What's on the LP exactly? MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Humming Date: 03 Aug 1998 14:04:52 +0000 Brian Phillips wrote: > >Keith Jarret must be close to a worst-case scenario, though. He doesn't > >hum -- he whines. > > Were that all that he does! He whines, hums, goes "HA!" amongst other > things. Seeing him live, he grimaces, smiles and rubs up against the piano > in a manner that I fear will give birth to spinets. Did you have to vomit? MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: Re: (exotica) Recommendations needed Date: 03 Aug 1998 13:49:12 +0100 > > Oh my recent shopping trip (see swap meet posts) I picked up a few artists I > didn't know anything about and was looking for a few others I couldn't find. > I was wondering if I could get recommendations of albums to look for by the > following: > > Bert Kaempfurt Kaempfert. "A Swinging Safari" is the best IMHO; relatively uptempo and energetic music with swinging flutes and trumpets. And a silly cover. In a similar style is "Living It Up" which is my favourite, but much harder to find. Both on Polydor in Europe; may be differently titled and probably on Decca in the US, so look for the title tracks. A similar album to Swinging Safari is "Africana" by Horst Wende; a more outrageous one is "Under African Skies" by Nico Carstens and Robin Netcher (1,000 times better than the other Carstens album I have). > Dave Brubeck "Time Out"/"Time Further Out" are both great. > George Shearing No comment. > Edmundo Ros "Bongos From The South" and "Dance Again". These are Ros' two most lively and entertaining albums. UK Decca Phase 4 (or US London Phase 4). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) My first... Date: 03 Aug 1998 09:02:44 -0400 ...Esquivel LP! "Infinity in Sound" I would have preferred a stereo copy, however, I gladly got a VG copy for 4 dollars at a record show. I had to pass on "Other Worlds, Other Sounds" which was 20 bucks. Sigh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) mallet-player humming disease Date: 03 Aug 1998 09:06:42 -0400 For those who are adventurous or in need of a good laugh, locate "Pulse" by Ronald Shannon Jackson, in which he recites poetry while playing the drums! "Into the valley of death ro...(whackita-whack-paradiddle!)". Much of the verse comes out as grunting. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Gleason Discography Date: 03 Aug 1998 08:27:27 -0600 Paul Moshay's question about the Gleason discography made me wonder if any Exoticats knew who shot the photos for two Gleason lp covers. George Jerman of the Capitol Photo Studio is credited with the moody cover image on "Champagne, Candlelight and Kisses." But no shooter is named for the distinctive photos on "Music for Lovers Only" and "Music, Martinis and Memories." You all know these photos: Lots of warm violets, reds and golds create "a wonderfully soft, romantic haze" as the MM&M notes say. They fascinate me because somber undertones undercut the pretty images. The photos say you're a little drunk and nursing heartache. Were these Jerman's work too? Paul, do any of your Gleason lps ID the photographer? Thanks for the info. MimiM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Humming Date: 03 Aug 1998 10:26:13 -0400 >> Were that all that he does! He whines, hums, goes "HA!" amongst other >> things. Seeing him live, he grimaces, smiles and rubs up against the piano >> in a manner that I fear will give birth to spinets. > >Did you have to vomit? No, but upon seeing that, an exceptionally bright 11 year-old standing next to me said, with a wonderfully deadpan delivery, "I don't see how a piano can take that kind of abuse." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Question About A Song Date: 03 Aug 1998 10:46:08 EDT you may remember when Joni Mitchell sang "Twisted" back in the early to mid 7T's...It was a radio song for a brief period # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Basta Audio Visuals" Subject: (exotica) The Unexpected Date: 03 Aug 1998 04:05:29 +0200 Anyone knows who are performing at The Unexpected by Raymond Scott ? Please reply to basta@xs4all.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift shopping (and question) Date: 03 Aug 1998 05:18:43 PDT > >A) I really don't understand this shame of buying in a thrift shop: The >more you buy there the better the shop runs and the better for those who >deserve shopping there. No??? Someone deserves to shop there? Just kidding. Again. I was doing my goatee'd flaneur thing. I'm like a kid in a staph infested candystore when I'm in a thrift shop. > >B) Burning ENVY about your Enchnated Tiki Room LP. Unlike Byron I don't >think it'll appear on CD though, because Disney wouldn't bring it out >themselves (they would rather close the attraction, if Walt hadn't >decreed in his last will that Tiki Room must never be shut down) Now it's for sure. Walt is a (dead) god. > >BTW: What's on the LP exactly? > >MO > More on this when I pick the lp up from my friend's place. My favorite track is the one on which the tikis come to life to chant and pound the drums. Neat booklet inside, too. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Las Vegas Grind is Grand -Reply Date: 03 Aug 1998 08:50:21 -0400 Gionni has gone on and on about these comps., and put a snippet of a past = conversation in there that I wrote. Well, I'll have to retract my comments about the "Jungle Exotica" volumes = 1/2 and state that I've been listening to these a LOT and I like the stuff = on here better than the "Grind" vols.1/2. Lots of lively, energetic = arrangements and fun TWISTED stuff like a guy moaning about "Snnnaaaaaakkkk= essssss" and "Alms for the poor." Love this stuff. Go for the "Jungle" and then follow-up with the grind stuff (which is = inferior I feel, but hey, what the hell do I know - But I DO know which = end of a CD is UP - hehaha!!!). As a side note, some of the songs on the "Jungle" comps have been covered = by Los Straightjackets or on "Eddie Angel's Guitar Party" (the guitarist = for the Straightjackets - he's in about a million bands.....) - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Cook Subject: Re: (exotica) Question About A Song Date: 03 Aug 1998 11:06:56 -0400 >you may remember when Joni Mitchell sang "Twisted" In addition to the most-excellent diva Joni version, did not Crystal Waters also cover this tune on her first record (or, the one with that mind-numbing " ... and she's homeless ..." on it)? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) From a Soul Page (About Mitch Ryder...) Date: 03 Aug 1998 11:31:42 -0400 The author's opinion, not mine. http://whusfm. saup.uconn.edu/SoulExpress/soulbio.html#ryder Crewe had big plans--wretchedly excessive plans as the What Now My Love album, released in mid-1967, may be the most godawful piece of overblown dreck ever associated with a major artist. Divorced from the powerdrive of The Wheels, swamped by saccharine strings and pompous pretense (poetry by Rod McKuen and music by Jaques Brel on a Mitch Ryder album?!?), the fact that Ryder somehow got the title track up to #30 might rank as the most amazing feat of his career. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift shopping (and question) Date: 03 Aug 1998 10:17:31 -0600 >B) Burning ENVY about your Enchnated Tiki Room LP. Unlike Byron I don't >think it'll appear on CD though, because Disney wouldn't bring it out >themselves (they would rather close the attraction, if Walt hadn't >decreed in his last will that Tiki Room must never be shut down) and >Disney wouldn't give away the rights to others. I hope I will be >disproven. >The only thing I have in my bag to counter this incredible find is my >tape of the original soundtrack of Tiki Room, that a friend smuggled out >of the magick kingdom... > >BTW: What's on the LP exactly? What is on your friends tape is what is on the LP. It has a colour booklet and the Jungle Cruise ride is on the other side. It is a word for word script including all songs from the Tiki Room experience. I know a lot of folks who want this, but I felt pretty good about finding my copy in very good-excellent shape for $1 at (surprise, surprise!) a THRIFT STORE in Miami. Usually children's LPs are totally destroyed, but this one sounds pretty rockin. The track with the cool drums in the "Hawaiian War Chant" by the tiki gods. It is well scary. A fave of mine to play out. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: Re: (exotica) new reviews in motion Date: 02 Aug 1998 19:39:48 +0200 dan hill wrote: > new reviews: > > Bomb 20 - Field Manual (DHR) > The Dick Zved Show - Bytes (no label) > Various Artists - Curtom Superpeople II (Charly) > Fridge - Semaphore (Output) > Jack and Jill - Fancy Birdhouse (Magnetic) > Anthony Braxton - Compositions No.10 & No.16 (+101) (hat [now]ART) > Howard,Hayward,Frith,Laswell - Meridiem (Materiali Sonori) > > http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/reviews/ > >thanks, and apologies for cross-postings "apologies for cross-postings"? yeah, sure... Dan, could you _please_ filter out the non-exotic/lounge/EZ entries? i've been visiting your site, only to discover that few of the mentioned reviews are relevant to this list. the above list doesn't contain even 1... Johan quiet@village.uunet.be | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Yma Sumac and ain't I a sight? Date: 03 Aug 1998 13:11:31 EDT In a message dated 98-07-30 09:09:49 EDT, a waxing poetic exoticat wrote << People are a rainbow of colors just as exotica is a rainbow of sounds >> OK, let's all join hands and sing "We Are the World" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) URL's - they already out there Date: 03 Aug 1998 13:17:03 EDT << Keeping a list of Exotica URLs updated would be ongoing work, any volunteers for that one? >> tons or url's a Vik's Lounge and every other (mildly related) exotica page # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: highway hi-fi Date: 03 Aug 1998 13:19:27 EDT In a message dated 98-07-30 11:33:26 EDT, you write: << "Hey, vinyl fanatics, have you ever wished you could listen to your records while cruising in your car? >> mopar pushed his accessory in the late 50's and early 60's. some were built in. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) If only I had a needle and could hum Date: 03 Aug 1998 13:33:06 EDT In a message dated 98-07-31 10:16:42 EDT, you write: << What caught me by surprise was that there was a distinct barking in the background throughout the entire tape -- I kid you not! I presume that Jesse the Dalamation's barking was strong enough to vibrate the phono needle and record it to tape >> i remember yelling at a phono needle when i was a kid and you could sorta hear something on the tape i was recording. and on that humming thread. what if you put the whole end of the control arm/needle in your mouth and hummed? would it record the hum on the tape? i bet it would. any takers? robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Las Vegas Grind is Grand -Reply -Reply Date: 03 Aug 1998 11:38:07 -0400 Me again - forgot to mention that the 5,6,7,8's also do a couple of songs = (well,okay, ONE) from the "Jungle" comp. =20 DAMN! Ain't he smart? - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Denny's Village Rundown Date: 03 Aug 1998 12:03:17 -0500 Here's an excerpt from the latest Tower E-pulse. Can anyone shed light on the line (see Subject: above) that caught my eye? -Lou epulse 4.30 [suicide] ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ --- CONTENTS / July 31, 1998 >>> Welcome back to epulse, the musically omnivorous weekly ezine of Pulse! magazine 1. flashback of the week: God bless GALACTIC. Following an aesthetic something akin to that of classical music's period-instrument movement, this New Orleans-based funk group eschews any perceived advances made in the genre for the last 25 years. None of the concessions to the commercialism that de-clawed funk in the late '70s and early '80s -- processed guitars and keyboards, programmed beats, disco -- mar the band's second album, 'CRAZYHORSE MONGOOSE' (Capricorn, 9/1). Instead, this six-piece plays the kinds of beats and grooves smart hip-hop acts have been relying on for the last decade. Opening track "Hamps Hump" swings thick and fat, with brass croaking, Hammond B-3 churning and drums syncopated Big Easy style. Jazzier and more formal than James Brown or Funkadelic, harder hitting than the Meters (an easy comparison), Galactic also has a penchant for songwriting, led by vocalist Theryl "Houseman" deClouet. DeClouet, a contemporary of a pre-recording Neville Brothers, shines on "Start From Scratch," "Change My Ways (Pts. 1 & 2)" and "Love on the Run," his smoky, understated style adding a hard-earned authenticity to lyrics about troubled love and life. On other cuts--"Meter Maid," drummer Stanton Moore's showcase "Denny's Village Rundown," "Witch Doctor," the title track--the instrumentalists vamp like mad, always in service to the whole, never bowing to ego. A band with this much feel and spontaneity on disc must practically move the earth in performance; word is, the crew *has* been packing them in on the club scene at home, as well as in New York and San Francisco, on the strength of its fine debut, '96's 'Coolin' Off' (originally issued on Fog City, recently reissued by Capricorn). (Hammad) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dan hill Subject: Re: (exotica) new reviews in motion Date: 03 Aug 1998 18:52:10 +0100 > "apologies for cross-postings"? yeah, sure... > Dan, could you _please_ filter out the non-exotic/lounge/EZ entries? > i've been visiting your site, only to discover that few of the > mentioned reviews are relevant to this list. the above list doesn't > contain even 1... sorry johan (and others) we're working on an automated way of doing this so that only appropriate reviews are ever mailed to the lists ... we've been finding that people on specialist lists are often more interested in music in general, and are into lots of different genres, styles, periods etc. - which is part of the rationale behind our site ... however, i completely understand the importance of keeping things relevant to the list, so i'll filter out anything "non-exotic" in future ... sorry once again. cheers, dan. ---+ dan hill [state51] ---+ new reviews on motion [31.7.98]: < bomb 20; the dick zved show; curtom superpeople II; fridge; anthony braxton; howard, hayward, frith, laswell; jewish alternative movement > http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/ +--- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Recommendations needed Date: 03 Aug 1998 14:02:17 EDT In a message dated 98-08-03 08:51:05 EDT, Peter wrote: << "A Swinging Safari" is the best IMHO >> I always play this when I go on "safari" (i.e. thrifting, antiqueing, junking). I also have a little tiki god that goes on the dash for these journeys. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: Re: (exotica) new reviews in motion Date: 02 Aug 1998 19:39:48 +0200 dan hill wrote: > new reviews: > > Bomb 20 - Field Manual (DHR) > The Dick Zved Show - Bytes (no label) > Various Artists - Curtom Superpeople II (Charly) > Fridge - Semaphore (Output) > Jack and Jill - Fancy Birdhouse (Magnetic) > Anthony Braxton - Compositions No.10 & No.16 (+101) (hat [now]ART) > Howard,Hayward,Frith,Laswell - Meridiem (Materiali Sonori) > > http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/reviews/ > >thanks, and apologies for cross-postings "apologies for cross-postings"? yeah, sure... Dan, could you _please_ filter out the non-exotic/lounge/EZ entries? i've been visiting your site, only to discover that few of the mentioned reviews are relevant to this list. the above list doesn't contain even 1... Johan quiet@village.uunet.be | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Shari Lewis obit Date: 03 Aug 1998 14:07:41 -0500 LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Puppeteer Shari Lewis, the children's entertainer who charmed youngsters for decades with furry sidekicks Lamb Chop, Charlie Horse and Hush Puppy, died of cancer, her publicist said today. She was 65. Miss Lewis, diagnosed with uterine cancer in June, was undergoing chemotherapy treatments when she developed pneumonia and died Sunday at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, spokeswoman Maggie Begley said. The Emmy Award-winning ventriloquist began cancer treatments six weeks ago and cut short production in Vancouver on her latest PBS children's series, ``The Charlie Horse Music Pizza.'' Miss Lewis won 12 Emmys, including five for her last PBS series, ``Lamb Chop's Play-Along.'' ``The Charlie Horse Music Pizza'' was billed by the entertainer as an educational ``Cheers'' for children that focused on music. The show premiered Jan. 5 on PBS. (Who's next? Cap'n Kangaroo??) --LS) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) tiki room and "music to mow by" Date: 03 Aug 1998 14:07:25 EDT In a message dated 98-08-03 11:07:40 EDT, you write: << More on this when I pick the lp up from my friend's place. My favorite track is the one on which the tikis come to life to chant and pound the drums. Neat booklet inside, too. >> i think one of the songs that they chant to is the Hawaiian War Chant. also, i love when the spanish parrot says "It cjoe time" and the lyrics later say "where the birds know the words and the flowers croon . . .in the tiki, tiki, tiki, tiki, tiki room". this is gunna sound crazy but i listen to my CD's/cassettes while cutting my grass on a riding lawn mower. my disney world cd is one of my favorite CD's to "mow by" robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) On Thrift Store Shopping... Date: 03 Aug 1998 14:15:45 EDT In a message dated 98-08-01 22:29:43 EDT, Brian wrote: << To have to see the misery on the faces of the people that HAVE to shop there really doesn't do a whole lot for me. >> I hate to say it but Brian is on the mark on that one. It is interesting/humbling/whatever to see some of these people that lead such a meager existence. And while the above has never made me now want to go thrifting it has made me think. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: (exotica) More on Thrifts Date: 03 Aug 1998 20:02:33 UT What you can find in thrifts all depends on how often you go and how vigilant you are. I thrift once every 8 months, about. What am I going to find? Esquivel? Command? Maybe, you never know. But probably not. Mostly I'll find a couple of interesting albums. But most likely, nothing like "Man from ORGAN" or "Movin and Groovin" unless I'm extremely lucky. But there are people who have found this stuff. How? When? I imagine, they hit the thrifts religiously. And their score count is probably a little higher than mine on average, but I bet we're really about the same. They just go more often. Me, I can afford an expensive album every once in a while. I just got Hyman's Man from ORGAN for ten bucks, near mint. That's a lot to pay for a record, but if I've never got the time for thrifting, when am I going to find that for fifty cents? If I want it, that's what I'll have to pay. Plus, it's in good condition. What a tragedy if I ever ran across Movin and Groovin and it was shot to shit. I don't know if I could handle that. Still, I do like the hunt, so I go when I can squeeze out there and look for some stuff. I figure, you never know what you'll find. And it's fun. And you get lots of stuff that you WEREN'T looking for, but looked interesting. For example, Dick Schory's Brass and Percussion with the cut-out sleeve (but no rad inner lining. :( ) or a copy of "Instrumental TNT" with Preston Epps Bongo Fury on it. Who knew at the time? But it sure looked cool. So that's why I still thrift when I can. And pay when I can't. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: (exotica) Twisted Date: 03 Aug 1998 20:08:14 UT Lambert, Hendricks and Ross did "covers" of jazz standards, with Hendricks adding vocal parts to match note for note the solos of the popular recordings. So you may have heard the original Jazz version of Twisted, which I dont know who did it. But it might be in the liners. Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: des@anubis23.demon.co.uk (Desmond K. Hill) Subject: (exotica) __chasing..pur._chasing__.+ps+pps Date: 03 Aug 1998 19:24:44 +0000 can anyone assist in my search to uncover a reasonably priced vinyl copy of Frank Sinatra & Antonio Carlos Jobim's 1969 LP on Reprise? Pls. reply off-list. Thank you. d e s __ps._ if you haven't bought it by now, you really should locate a copy of Perrey et Chazam's illustrious 'e c l e k t r o n i c s' lp ASAP. it is incredible. but don't believe me, go check it for yourselves.. :) _pps.._ whilst on the subject of moogs, can anyone recommend non-cover version releases by the moog cookbook, & are these USA-only releases? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: (exotica) Moon Base Alpha #2 playlist Date: 03 Aug 1998 20:27:52 +0100 For those of you whoo might be vaguely, here is the playlist for "Moon Base Alpha" #2 (upstairs at the club Radio Babylon) Saturday 1 August 1998 (as before, the exact sequence is somewhat hazy): Dick Hyman - Moon Gas (Moon Gas) Dick Hyman - Fiddler on the Roof (Keyboard Kaleidoscope) Enoch Light Singers - Born to Be Wild (Whoever You Are, I Love You) Enoch Light - Marrakesh Express (Permissive Polyphonics) Big Jim Sullivan - Sunshine Superman (In Flight #2) Edmundo Ros - Melodie d'Amour (Vaba-Ba-Boom) High Llamas - Glide Time (Cold and Bouncy) Cal Tjader - Leyte (Breeze from the East) Les Baxter - Voodoo Dreams (Exotic Moods) Barry Adamson - Jazz Devil (As Above So Below) Free Design - Bubbles (Bubbles) Moog Cookbook - Hotel California (Ye Olde Space Bande) Perrey & Kingsley - One Note Samba/Spanish Flea (Kaleidoscopic Vibrations) Next Moon Base Alpha Saturday October 3rd. DJ Bongo Boy ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Question About A Song Date: 03 Aug 1998 15:28:51 EDT you mean the same mind-numbing "She's Homeless" as covered by Montefiori Cocktail? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Galactic Date: 03 Aug 1998 12:25:43 -0700 (PDT) Lou:: I've seen Galactica live a few times in the last year or so. Most recently I saw them at the Jazz Fest here in New Orleans. The article describes them preyty well. Their sound can vary in a single set from straight get down 70's funk to funky world jazz sounds. The band does great vocals on some great way out there cool ballads. My freinds & I find the band hard to predict. Also thank you for all the many varied links. Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck ---Lou Smith wrote: > Here's an excerpt from the latest Tower E-pulse. Can anyone shed light on the line (see Subject: above) that caught my eye? > > -Lou Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 09:57:08 -0700 (PDT) > From: E-Pulse Mag Mailing List > epulse 4.30 [suicide] > ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ > --- CONTENTS / July 31, 1998 > >>> Welcome back to epulse, the musically omnivorous weekly > ezine of Pulse! magazine > 1. flashback of the week: > God bless GALACTIC. Following an aesthetic something akin to that of > classical music's period-instrument movement, this New Orleans-based funk group eschews any perceived advances made in the genre for the last 25 > years. None of the concessions to the commercialism that de-clawed funk in > the late '70s and early '80s -- _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts Date: 03 Aug 1998 12:20:53 -0700 > What a tragedy if I ever ran across Movin and Groovin and it was shot to shit. > I don't know if I could handle that. > You just said a mouthful, matey.... Finding a killer record beat to pieces can affect me for days. It happens more than I would care to admit. There have been some similar posts saying the same thing. Some folks have been reporting their experiences with these atrocities. It helps to talk about these things. Just be patient. The hurt will go away eventually. Be strong. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clean@tamboo.com Subject: (exotica) Re: URL's - they already out there Date: 03 Aug 1998 14:52:33 -0500 (CDT) ><< Keeping a list of Exotica URLs updated would be ongoing work, any > volunteers for that one? >> i try really hard: http://www.tamboo.com/loungelinks.html visit... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ King Kini's C L U B V E L V E T http://www.tamboo.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: Re: (exotica) Recommendations needed Date: 03 Aug 1998 20:59:43 +0100 >At 01:04 AM 03/08/98 EDT, Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: >>I was wondering if I could get recommendations of albums to look for by the >>following: >> >>Bert Kaempfurt A bit of trivia for you about the late Bert K. As an A&R man for Polydor in the very early 60's, he worked on the first Beatles records prior to them signing for Parlophone (USA-Capitol) and hitting the big time. 'A swinging safari' is pretty good, although the cover picture in which the jungle is represented by a potted plant is distinctly silly. Paul Desmond, delicate sax player for Dave Brubeck, is also long departed from this earth. As for George Shearing's racy album covers, this might have been more a marketing man's decision, rather than the blind pianist himself. HP # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Salvation Army Shops Date: 03 Aug 1998 20:59:45 +0100 There have been some interesting thoughts set down here this last week about the possibility of receiving some serious evangelism while thrifting at Salvation Army shops....evangelism to the point of pressing one from one's normal way of life into the service of the church, never to be seen again... Thinks: - Jessica used to go to thrifts a lot - Jessica has vanished from these pages Can this mean....? Oh no, oh no, no, no..... (sob). HP. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmperl@juno.com (Jonathan M Perl) Subject: (exotica) Record bargain locations/Kaempfert Date: 04 Jul 1998 17:14:19 -0400 Sometimes record bargains appear where you wouldn't expect to find records. On Friday, A friend dragged me downstairs to the $5 bargain cellar in some vintage clothing store. I was surprised to see 5 boxes of records. Picked up a few nice things for a buck. The best one was '101 strings play the trendsetters of the 60s'. It looks great (cartoon drawings of the beatles, killer joe from the discotheque albums etc) and is great. In particular, the version of 'hard days night' rocks. On the subject of Bert Kaempfert, for some reason I never found a european polydor album which I liked. Swingin' safari was probably the best one, but even that seemed a bit weedy. By contrast, the US decca LPs I've bought have a better, meatier sound. 'Afrikaan beat' and 'love that...' come to mind. regards Jonny regards Jonny _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Tiki Room LP + Date: 03 Aug 1998 23:57:39 +0000 > >BTW: What's on the LP exactly? Jill: > What is on your friends tape is what is on the LP. It has a colour book= let > and the Jungle Cruise ride is on the other side. It is a word for word > script including all songs from the Tiki Room experience. I know a lot = of > folks who want this, but I felt pretty good about finding my copy in ve= ry > good-excellent shape for $1 at (surprise, surprise!) a THRIFT STORE in > Miami. Usually children's LPs are totally destroyed, but this one sound= s > pretty rockin. The track with the cool drums in the "Hawaiian War Chant= " by > the tiki gods. It is well scary. A fave of mine to play out. Does it also have the voices of the vulcano gods etc. from the waiting ar= ea? You should bring it anyway, since you might want to play it. Didn't you s= ay you will be DJing? When and where? BTW: One date on the PopKomm is def already: Friday evening we should meet at the Gloria for Sushi 4004, with Yasuharu Konishi of Pizzicato and others. On Saturday it's the Apollo fea= t. Schlammpeiziger (a young electronician who works in the footsteps of such D=FCsseldorf veterans as Harmonia, Michael Rother or Riechmann, really cu= te) and Dorau playing one (!) song. What else? On Thursday I see Steve Silk Hurley at the Neptunbad... I migh= t want to see that. And on sunday I'll be glad to drive back to my quiet li= ttle hometown Munich... MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Humming & other noises Date: 03 Aug 1998 23:57:54 +0000 > << What caught me by surprise was that > there was a distinct barking in the background throughout the entire tape > -- I kid you not! I presume that Jesse the Dalamation's barking was strong > enough to vibrate the phono needle and record it to tape >> > > i remember yelling at a phono needle when i was a kid and you could sorta hear > something on the tape i was recording. Somebody mentioned this record that was obviously homemade and you can hear a lot of background noises and at one point you can actually hear his wife saying "Oh, are you recording?" I loved that story. Who was that again? I think I read it somewhere in "Incredible strange music"... MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Tiki Room LP Date: 03 Aug 1998 23:58:10 +0000 Jill Mingo wrote: > Mo, > > It is the exact soundtrack to the Tiki Room experience. All the songs, the > words - everything. It comes with a booklet. I have it. Mine isn't very > crackly either. I can bring it to PopKomm if you are desperate to see it, > but there is not much chance of me selling it unless someone offered me > something I couldn't resist... At least I have the "It's a small world" LP. MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift shopping (and question) Date: 03 Aug 1998 23:58:25 +0000 > >A) I really don't understand this shame of buying in a thrift shop: The > >more you buy there the better the shop runs and the better for those > >who deserve shopping there. No??? > > Someone deserves to shop there? Just kidding. Again. I was doing my > goatee'd flaneur thing. I'm like a kid in a staph infested candystore > when I'm in a thrift shop. > Scheisse! Wrong word. What I wanted to say was "...depend on shopping...". Mercy! MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Fantastic Plastic Machine Date: 03 Aug 1998 15:04:11 -0700 (PDT) I just purchased Fantastic Plastic Machine by the Fantastic Plastic Machine released this year on Bungalow records out of Germany. It was originally released last year in Japan and will be released later this year on Emperor Norton Records in the USA. The music is full of great easy melodies, with male & female vocals and some instrumentals. The sound is like the Gentle People with a dance beat or P5 in their easier moments. I purchased the cd from Tom at Other Music : http://www.interactive.net/~tomc or (212) 477-8150 I know Tom at Other Music sells exotica to purchasers from around the world by email and phone. The main mover behind the Fantastic Plastic Machine is Tomoyuki Tanaka one cool exoticat from looking at his picture. I understand that he has an enormous record coleetion and draws his inspiration for this cool music from a variety of musical styles. Record collecting has been partly reponsible for lots of bands forming, for example Brian Jones & Mick & Kieth Richards got together because they liked each others records before forming the Rolling Sones. I believe records also caused John & Paul to start hanging out together. Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Saving Jessica Date: 03 Aug 1998 18:00:22 EDT In a message dated 98-08-03 16:04:01 EDT, you write: << Thinks: - Jessica used to go to thrifts a lot - Jessica has vanished from these pages Can this mean....? Oh no, oh no, no, no..... (sob). >> I think a big stack of records (that she has been "finding") these last few years fell on her. At least she went with a smile on her face. Of course, now on the Emergency Technician Mailing List some bastard is writting about his "most recent find". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: (exotica) Re: tiki room and Date: 03 Aug 1998 15:14:48 PDT >From: >Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 14:07:25 EDT >To: kahuna77@hotmail.com, exotica@xmission.com >Subject: tiki room and "music to mow by" > >In a message dated 98-08-03 11:07:40 EDT, you write: > ><< More on this when I pick the lp up from my friend's place. My favorite > track is the one on which the tikis come to life to chant and pound the > drums. Neat booklet inside, too. >> > >i think one of the songs that they chant to is the Hawaiian War Chant. Yes! That is the song (I gotta get my new turnable operational this weekend). also, >i love when the spanish parrot says "It cjoe time" and the lyrics later say >"where the birds know the words and the flowers croon . . .in the tiki, tiki, >tiki, tiki, tiki room". Yes! This one had us laughing pretty hard ... I also love all the dopey puns the narrator delivers during the course of the jungle cruise (which seems to move from the Amazon to Malaysia to the Congo and back to chez tiki in the course of 20 minutes, if I recall correctly). >this is gunna sound crazy but i listen to my CD's/cassettes while cutting my >grass on a riding lawn mower. my disney world cd Is the one Byron had mentioned - only a few tiki room tracks? is one of my favorite CD's >to "mow by" That sounds like a great name for my next comp. tape "Music to Tidy up the Yard By." Best, Ben ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: (exotica) DMQ Thursday Night at the Showbox Date: 03 Aug 1998 16:36:37 -0800 >Once in a mortal's lifetime, an event comes along so stupendous, so >spectacular, so life-affirming that mere words fail to describe its >magnitude. Well, while you're waiting for that event, please come see our >next show, which is a dandy! > >THURSDAY, AUGUST 6TH >THE SHOWBOX >The pop-lounge magic that is THE DUDLEY MANLOVE QUARTET >The exotic Latino heartbeat of Portland's PINK MARTINI >The boss Mambo stylings of THE MAMBO NINE RADIO ORCHESTRA (featuring Craig >and Steve of DMQ) > >Tickets are $8 at the door, and can be purchased in advance through >Ticketmaster or at the Showbox. >Doors open at 9pm. > >***************** > >Thanks to all of you who entered our DMQ Karaoke Quiz contest. Five >lyrical geniuses were able to name all 40 songs and their respective >artists. Sadly, there can only be one winner, so we at DMQ, through a >complicated process involving calculus, Jungian philosophy, and a heated >Rock'em Sock'em Robots tournament, have picked a winner: >ANGELA KEENE! > >Angela has won two free passes to the Thursday, August 6th show at the >Showbox. Congrats, Angela! >The other 4 who aced our quiz: Janelle Cross, Heather Dolan, Tyler Miller >and Matt Balint. Way to go! > >***************** > >DMQ is proud to announce the grand opening of CLUB DUDLEY -- the swankiest >hotspot on the Internet strip. No cover charge, no drink minimum, no >dress code. Yes indeed, thanks to the computer wizardry of Craig Corvin >and Steve Okimoto, and the graphical genius of Dave Jolosky, our fair >website has received a major makeover. Some of the fine new features in >Club Dudley: >* The Bar -- come in, have a drink, and chat with other DMQ fans (maybe >even members of DMQ themselves) >* The Backstage -- you have an all-access pass, so use it! Check out >photos of DMQ at work and play, fun facts about the band, and other juicy >tidbits regarding the world's foremost six-man quartet. >Plus, all the regular features: a weekly calendar of shows, booking >information, the DMQ Top 40, and more, much more! > >Same catchy URL as before: http://www.dudleymanlove.com > paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) FAQ progress Date: 03 Aug 1998 21:39:00 -0400 > [Disney] would rather close the attraction, if Walt hadn't >decreed in his last will that Tiki Room must never be shut down Good Thinking, Walt! After they thaw him out, what better way to ease back into things than with a Mai Tai and a polynesian floor show? OK, the FAQ continues to percolate along behind the scenes; I'll post the compete version within a day or two for your further comments. But so far: I've revised the language of a few sections where people had specific objections; I think answering people's comments without totally reversing what I had said. . . I tend to agree that other people are already doing a better job than I could, keeping URL lists up-to-date. So I will probably limit it to some essentials (like Brad's Space Age Pop site) and then link to other people's pages of links. I have culled some book recommendeations out of my saved digests, but feel a little funny just parroting book titles I've never heard of. I'd be grateful if anyone cares to send me the (exact) titles of the books they find most useful. Only a couple of people sent me "top ten artist" lists. So instead I cobbled together a very loose list of "what kinds of records might a beginner look out for?", which mentions artists, labels, and particular genres. I apologize that the current list it pretty biased towards my own collection (HiFi, percussion, Latin); I encourage people who are stronger on soundtracks, the 60s, "Now Sound," etc. to please send additions. Here it is: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Q: If someone were just beginning to search for exotica records, what would be some good things to look out for? A: Though such a list is bound to be incomplete and disputable, here are some suggestions: * Martin Denny or Arthur Lyman LPs * Juan Garcia Esquivel LPs (rare today) * Glossy albums (often gatefold) on "Hi-Fi" labels like Command, Phase Four, Mercury "Perfect Presence," Time, Audio Fidelity, Directional Sound, etc. * Albums with "Percussion" in the title * Latin music as performed by American or European studio musicians * RCA's "Stereo Action" Series (thick, white, die-cut covers) * Early Ferrante and Teicher (with prepared piano) * The Three Suns RCA "Living Stereo" LPs * Electric organ virtuosos (Lenny Dee, Dick Hyman, etc.) * Pop instrumentals featuring harpsichord or harp * Inappropriate cover versions ("Light My Fire" on pipe organ, etc.) * Hawaiian music as performed by non-Hawaiians * Albums showcasing moog synthesizer * "Now Sound" LPs (Brass Ring, etc.) * Albums with "discotheque" or "au go-go" in the title ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yours in HiFi, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) FAQ progress Date: 03 Aug 1998 21:44:27 EDT In a message dated 8/3/98 9:40:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rotohut@ic.net writes: > * Pop instrumentals featuring harpsichord or harp I would add *or sitar*. You're doing a great job with the FAQ. Thanks. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Shari Lewis obit Date: 03 Aug 1998 17:54:04 +0000 At 02:07 PM 8/3/98 -0500, Lou wrote: > LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Puppeteer Shari Lewis, the children's entertainer who >charmed youngsters for decades with furry sidekicks Lamb Chop, Charlie Horse >and Hush Puppy, died of cancer, her publicist said today. She was 65. Lou, Thanks for tossing that in! One of the best parts of The Mr. Smooth Show Christmas program last year was a little thing she did on, I believe, a Columbia LP. Such fun! I was always amazed how fresh and vital her material was and how active she stayed doing what she did so well. When people say how bad the media has become (too liberal, too conservative, too commercial, too radical, too violent): I bring up people such as Shari Lewis and broadcast outlets that made her performances possible. There continues to be good, fun stuff on radio and TV, but only thanks to the inspiration of people like Shari Lewis. Byron /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Disney Equation Date: 03 Aug 1998 22:02:36 EDT In a message dated 98-08-02 23:15:49 EDT, you write: << Disney seems to be on a program of reissuing everything it ever did again and again. >> This has always been the marvelous (or dubious -- you take your pick) thing about the Disney machine. About every 7 years they have a new audience to target and that audience will (hopefully by the stockholders bets) stay with them for life. To them Bambi, Pinnochio, etc. are "new". Disney never really creates a new formula to attract un-targeted audiences. It just waits for the new audience to be born, learn to speak and say "Mickey". I find it interesting that the Disney "backlash" has only happened in the last 4 or 5 years. Before that no one ever said anything bad about Disney. There was a book (that hopefully someone out there knows the title of) which described the dubious Disney formula. Interesting note: the excerpts I have read are usually in business/stock publications telling others how to make the formula work for them. Ironic note: I went to Disney World about a year ago, spent and ass load of money and can't wait until my son (age 1) is old enough to go. Damn -- that formula really works. Candidly, Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: (exotica) Ethel Smith finds Date: 03 Aug 1998 22:22:35 -0500 A timely request for Ethel Smith information. I just picked up three more or her LPs making my total of her records 15! And I'm still missing 5. The comparisons to Dee are not off the mark since they both made regular apperances on television and evidently both had a sort of organ-comic routine. Their playing styles are quite different. Where Dee's playing can be more wacky many of Smith's arrangements and song selections are stronger. Latin rhythms were Ethel Smith's forte and I would recommend her albums "Dance to the Latin Rhythms of..", "Latin In Manhattan", and the Cha-Cha-Cha album all on Decca. My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Recommendations needed Date: 03 Aug 1998 22:22:37 -0500 I concur with most responses that the Swinging Safari album is probably the one to get for old Bert, but I have similar feelings to Nat: >A guy like Bert Kaempfert, you certainly can't say "Oh he's crap!" because >he isn't crap. He's a talented arranger and musician blah blah blah. But >if there is a really extraordinary B.K. record that's actually worth going >out of your way to find, I'll be pleasantly surprised to hear about it. I think the key word here is 'extraordinary'. I agree that Bert's arrangement never quite get beyond ordinary but, at the same time albums such as the aforementioned Swinging Safari are hardly saccharine. They can be fun just not 'extra-ordinarily' so.It could be that it's an acquired taste, so to speak. For instance after listening to all the zany, bombastic, extreme arrangements of the much spoke of exotica canon a subtle Kaempfert touch just may hit the spot. So in short, in my four tier Vinyl Recliner ratings of Essential/Highly Recommended/Very Good/Good I would rank Swinging Safari as a very good. Frank My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Disney Music URL and Search Engine Date: 03 Aug 1998 22:27:40 EDT Here is an "official" (whatever that means) Disney music site where CD's can be ordered: http://www.iaw.on.ca/~wschwart/disney/albums/154.htm the URL above has the CD I have but you can work back to their HOME to run search engines, etc. My engine for song titles with the work "tiki" in them gave 14 hits meaning there are 14 albums that have the tiki room show song. I have not checked them all out but will post back to the list with any I think notable. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) Thrifting: Pro or Con Date: 03 Aug 1998 22:38:49 -0400 I specifically wanted a "Thrift Wars" entry in the FAQ because it's one of those threads that can go around and around for months, with one side never convincing the other. It really does all depend on where you live and what your time is worth. I'm sorry some people find the environment of thrifts depressing; it's never particularly bothered me. But regarding this undercurrent of "those stores aren't for people like me, they are for sad little people who really need them," I must protest. First, I'm sure if you asked, the management of these places would say they're quite happy to have anyone come in and buy things--because that is their source of income, to continue whatever charitable work they're supposedly doing. When a record gets donated to a thrift store, someone has decided it has ZERO value, and given it away. At this point, it is either going to get sold to someone who attaches a higher value to it, or it will end up in the trash. Isn't it preferable that the record ends up with someone who appreciates it? If I buy a Three Suns record at a thrift store, I simply refuse to believe that I'm taking something of value away from a more deserving person. When "actual poor people" shop at a thrift, their motives are completely different from mine: They are attempting to buy into a plausible modern, middle-class lifestyle, within the limits of their budget. Meanwhile, *I* am trying to buy things that have gone so completely out of style that they have bottomed out, and perhaps are on the upswing of coolness again. (This is basic "Rubbish Theory," as defined by British anthropologist Michael Thompson.) So there is really not much overlap to the kinds of things we are looking for. This is all discussed rather thoroughly in Al Hoff's _Thrift Score_ book. So--leaving aside all questions of time, grunginess, etc.--I say, Thrift Ho! reaching for those moist towelettes, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) A Lyman Oddity Date: 03 Aug 1998 23:10:39 -0400 Jeez after all these boring posts I figure I should make some feeble attempt to say something about RECORDS. . . I recently came across a weird version of Arthur Lyman's _Yellow Bird_ LP. HiFi Records had renamed it _Percussion Spectacular!_ (using the original Lava photo and type style); they turned it into a gatefold too. The inner jacket faces had this huge tweako blurb about all the equipment used, with eleven(!) closeups of cutting lathes and so on. It even listed the prices for all the equipment! As far as I can tell, the vinyl itself is identical to _Yellow Bird_ (same catalog number too). So, do you Lyman fans know, was this just a brief attempt to cash in on the "Persuasive Percussion" fad? It all seemed a little desperate to me. . . Cheers, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Antonio Carlos Jobim CD Date: 03 Aug 1998 23:11:01 -0400 I just saw a 3-CD set of of Jobim's work, on Verve - it appears to be a tribute to him, with all sorts of different artists covering his material. The packaging looked incredible, but it was sealed, and there are no track or artist listings on the outside - just a few names and titles. Does anyone know anything about this set, and is is worthwhile? Or is it Jobim overkill? cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney Equation Date: 03 Aug 1998 23:36:39 -0400 > I find it interesting that the Disney "backlash" has only happened in the last > 4 or 5 years. Before that no one ever said anything bad about Disney. Not so. Ron Goulart's book, "The Assault On Childhood", with its long and interesting chapter on the Disney machine was published around the late 60s or early 70s. And it includes earlier quotes from others -- Disney skepticism is nothing new. Of course the Disney cross-marketing push was already established in the 30s, so that's nothing new either. Not that *I'm* saying anything bad about them, heh. After all, they are ranked as one of the most litigious corporations in the world. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Exotica Summit adjustment Date: 03 Aug 1998 23:52:07 EDT A last minute adjustment to the earlier (last week) message I sent regarding a meeting at The Tonga Room in San Francisco Otto & Alan of Tiki News & Lift Off Productions, respectively, are holding monthly meeting the first Wednesday of each month from 6 - 8 pm at the Tonga Room in the Fairmont Hotel at Powell and Mason atop Nob Hill, SF At these meetings we will discuss future surf/Lounge/Exotica shows that we will be throwing and we will be looking for assistants/volunteers, bands, entertainers who wish to participate. (Alan also does a radio show on KALX) EXCEPT this Wednesday's meeting (Aug 5) will be cut short due to the just announced grand opening of the Bamboo Hut. The Tonga Room meeting will be from 6 sharp til 7 pm and then we will all head over to the Bamboo Hut (next to the HiBall on Broadway near Kearny) Otto will be djing at the Bamboo Hut from 8-12 mid. To get in FREE to the Bamboo Hut simply say that you are on Otto's guest list # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Question About A Song Date: 04 Aug 1998 00:16:01 EDT In a message dated 98-08-03 15:32:09 EDT, you write: << "She's Homeless" as covered by Montefiori Cocktail? >> La dee dee, la dee dah - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Thrift confession Date: 04 Aug 1998 00:16:00 EDT In a message dated 98-08-03 14:19:59 EDT, Rcbrooksod@aol.com writes: << I hate to say it but Brian is on the mark on that one. It is interesting/humbling/whatever to see some of these people that lead such a meager existence. >> Okay, I have to admit that one day about 3 months ago, I went thrifting all day. Ha! but it wasn't for records, it was for cheesy Hawaiian shirts for a luau party for my work. I told the people at work, that I thought I could find some of those old 1970s era shirts in San Bernardino (a city about 90 miles east of Los Angeles) where I was going for a conference. So I went to about 10 thrift stores in a 5-hour period and you are right. Lots of very poor people, very sad and the experience cast a dark cloud over the entire day. I only found 2 shirts that were usable BTW. Most of the cool Hawaiian shirt are gone even from San Bernardino thrift stores. Gotta go to vintage shops and pay real money for them nowadays. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Thrift store conspiracy Date: 04 Aug 1998 00:15:26 EDT In a message dated 98-08-03 01:18:54 EDT, BRIAN@PHYRES.Lan.McGill.CA writes: << It's an American chain of 125 stores and what's that, they deal in "collectibles"? We click on the records icon on the site and what do we see but a photo of "Music to read James Bond By" followed by a bid list for collectors vinyl (with minimums!) and instructing you to make your deal with the manager of the store in question!!! ..... I'm beginning to see a pattern that's really starting to make me sick. >> Ha! See I was right! That's why there isn't anything except Olivia Newton John albums in thrifts. All the good stuff is being wisked away to a bidding site on the internet! If the rest of the chains catch on, thrifting days are numbered.... - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts Date: 04 Aug 1998 00:16:02 EDT In a message dated 98-08-03 15:33:23 EDT, rgrandia@earthlink.net writes: << You just said a mouthful, matey.... Finding a killer record beat to pieces can affect me for days. It happens more than I would care to admit. >> Okay, please explain why this is painful. I mean, if I see a record that I wanted and it was really beat, I'd just think, oh, someone really liked that record because they played it to death. Then I think, oh well, better luck next time. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: (exotica) Thrifting: Pro or Con Date: 04 Aug 1998 00:25:26 -0400 A few random notes on thrifts. I can imagine that thrift stores may have several, sometimes conflicting, objectives. On one hand, they supply a steady supply of low cost, used goods to a low-income population. On the other hand, they raise money, by selling these products, which can then be re-distributed to other aspects of their charity. Thrifts are thus in this constant battle of "Do we price it so low that the people who really need it can afford it" versus "we need to price this high enough so any profit goes to our charity and not to some outside antique dealer type person." Obviously the record dealers know that thrifts can provide a steady supply of 'potential profit.' The thrifts also know this, but most do not have the expertise to price records accordingly. I am curious though, do the members of this list who buy records from the thrifts buy only records? or do they look around in the store for other cool and interesting things that they might find? I do see record dealers in the thrifts....they come in, zero on the records, and then they usually leave. With me, I'm also usually going to the book section, the painting section, the knick-knack section, the toy section, etc, etc... I think someone like me will tend to have a more favorable view of thrifts and what they can provide versus the people who are only looking for one item. By the way, I finally thrifted a copy of Kraftwerk's 'Trans-Europe Express' LP.....the cover was ripped to shreds and bypassed by the collectors, but the disc is in OK shape. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Twisted Date: 04 Aug 1998 00:41:14 EDT "Twisted" originally a jazz instro by Wardell Gray (LA Central Ave. Scene). The song is based on his bebop solo.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clean@tamboo.com Subject: (exotica) Re: A Lyman Oddity Date: 03 Aug 1998 23:45:35 -0500 (CDT) my assumption was that the original title (and gatefold) was "Percussion Spectacular!" and after he had a hit with "Yellow Bird" they changed the LP title to reflect the single's popularity. i could be wrong. -kk >I recently came across a weird version of Arthur Lyman's _Yellow Bird_ LP. >HiFi Records had renamed it _Percussion Spectacular!_ (using the original >Lava photo and type style); they turned it into a gatefold too. >As far as I can tell, the vinyl itself is identical to _Yellow Bird_ (same >catalog number too). So, do you Lyman fans know, was this just a brief >attempt to cash in on the "Persuasive Percussion" fad? It all seemed a >little desperate to me. . . visit... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ King Kini's C L U B V E L V E T http://www.tamboo.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts Date: 04 Aug 1998 01:23:10 -0400 At 12:16 AM -0400 8/4/98, wrote: >Okay, please explain why this is painful. I mean, if I see a record that I >wanted and it was really beat, I'd just think, oh, someone really liked that >record because they played it to death. Then I think, oh well, better luck >next time. Then I think........I hope that they're dead; if not, I might just have to go kill them. anguished much to often to be nice, br cleve p.s. on a slightly related note, I just heard that Emerson College (Boston, MA) today threw their entire vinyl record collection (around 40 years worth of records) into a dumpster, as part of their effort to 'modernize' their radio station [WERS-FM, the studio of which is being rebuilt]. #!^$@*&!!!!!!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift store conspiracy Date: 04 Aug 1998 01:13:49 -0400 At 12:15 AM -0400 8/4/98, wrote: >Ha! See I was right! That's why there isn't anything except Olivia Newton >John albums in thrifts. All the good stuff is being wisked away to a biddi= ng >site on the internet! If the rest of the chains catch on, thrifting days a= re >numbered.... In most large cities here, the thrifts are hit every day by dealers - antique dealers, record and book people, specialists in furniture and glass, etc. A friend has an antique barn up in New Hamshire, and he has the delivery times/days for every Salvation Army, etc in the area. He hits them all and buys up stuff to sell on the weekends. He sees all the same faces every morning, all of them dealers vying for and fighting over picking up the new stuff as it makes it way onto the sales floor. You should see the records he finds (and has found over the years). But before 1994, almost no one cared about EZ and exotica records, and the thrifts were overflowing with it. It's where I found most of the 'greats', along with lots of Hawaiian shirts and bar stuff and much of the other crap that fills my house. It's only when all this stuff became 'collectible' that it started to dry up at the source. So you might not find Esquivel or The Caine Mutiny soundtrack (or you might),but there's always good stuff to be found, and to discover....and with bargain prices like 50=A2whatever a record, it's affordable to experiment. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eb Subject: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores Date: 03 Aug 1998 23:57:32 -0700 OK, enough about thrift stores...what about MY hangup? Garage sales. I have a friend who used to drive around neighborhoods on weekends, looking for garage sales. He'd go to the quieter part of town where a lot of older folks lived, and he'd clean up on old rarities from the '50s and things. According to him, his best purchase was a Leadbelly record which he claimed was worth $150. I also remember a couple of original Chuck Berry lps.... Anyway, as enticing as this sounds to me, I can NOT get myself to walk up to some stranger's lawn/garage and start pawing through the accumulated debris of his life. Really gives me the heebie-jeebies. And then, if you don't buy anything, it's like you're telling him that his life was of no worth. ;) Anyway, am I alone here? Heh. Eb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores Date: 05 Aug 1998 01:22:13 +0100 > > > >> Anyway, as enticing as this sounds to me, I can NOT get myself to walk up >> to some stranger's lawn/garage and start pawing through the accumulated >> debris of his life. Really gives me the heebie-jeebies. And then, if you >> don't buy anything, it's like you're telling him that his life was of no >> worth. ;) >> >> > > I keep swearing that I will now ignore these threads, but I can't resist.... You are so right about walking away without buying. I am over it though. I could be that friend. I LIVE for garage sales. Pawing throught the debris is half the fun. I have learned that it helps to address thge seller: Say hello and ask how business is this morning. Most of the time I really enjoy the small talk as I glance around, look at any interesting articles, ask where the records are. (Hint: VERY often, they say they never had time to bring them out. - I get invited in for an exclusive perusal!) Talk about feeling dirty afterwards...hooooeeee! Thrifts nmhave nothing on the accumulated funk of an afternoon of garage sales. Also. If you go, be a dude and buy lemonade and brownies from every kid with a stand... It's' good Karma. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) recommendations, Bert Kaempfert, integrity Date: 04 Aug 1998 04:36:39 -0400 At 10:22 PM 03/08/98 -0500,recliner wrote: > > I concur with most responses that the Swinging Safari album is probably >the one to get for old Bert, but I have similar feelings to Nat: Well I hate to disagree with a guy who's trying to agree with me but... > after listening to all the >zany, bombastic, extreme arrangements of the much spoke of exotica canon >a subtle Kaempfert touch just may hit the spot. "Subtle". Yeah that's one way of saying it. Before I go on to trash Bert, let me make a Bert recommendation. I have the record "Bert Kaempfert Now" where he covers "Put your hand in the hand" and "Proud Mary".. (Can't wait to hear those, I bet..) Anyway there's a song on it called "Kiss her once with feeling" which Bert co-wrote and it's a very standard arrangement but for some reason, as sappy as it is, I think it's a lovely tune and I just put it on a compilation tape and when it came up, I was thinking "Wow what's this?" It sounds like a Mancini-ish tune from a film you never saw. But back to Bert. I believe the same thing of Bert that I said of Edmondo Ros. I think he was making records for people who he considered "in his market". People who didn't want anything too way out, too arranged, too bombastic etc. He was making Muzak essentially. And if you're tired of bombast, yeah muzak can hit the spot I guess. I don't think Ray Conniff got worse when he went from those cool wordless vocal records to the sappier Born Free-type stuff. I think he was trying to make records for what he saw as HIS market. >So in short, in my four tier Vinyl Recliner ratings of Essential/Highly >Recommended/Very Good/Good I would rank Swinging Safari as a very good. Okay maybe that record is very good but not Bert as a whole. I think the reason why I'm so crazed on this topic is because through all of this, there was a guy like Esquivel who was essentially making records for the same market as Bert or Ray but it doesn't sound to me like Esquivel was making any particular attempt to cater to the market. This is not a seamless argument. I suppose Enoch Light was trying to cater to a a market too but maybe he wasn't doing it as slavishly as Bert or Ray. Everybody was (and is) trying to cater to the market and I suppose there are records I love that were made by total market whores but in general, I think that the records I like better were made by musicians who had enough integrity that they could still do something good while selling out a bit too. And I don't think that describes Bert Kaempfert. Or... a whole bunch of unnamed others either. Nat, change my name to Rant. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts Date: 04 Aug 1998 04:38:10 -0400 At 08:02 PM 03/08/98 UT, you wrote: > >What you can find in thrifts all depends on how often you go and how vigilant >you are. I thrift once every 8 months, about. What am I going to find? >Esquivel? Command? Maybe, you never know. But probably not. Mostly I'll find >a couple of interesting albums. If you had said "What I going to find? Alice Coltrane? Patti Smith bootlegs? Maybe. Probably not", I could go along with you. But Esquivel and particularly Command are definitely NOT in the "probably-not" category. I've gotten both at the Goodwill and especially I've gotten LOTS of Command records there. Again I have to say that nobody should go to the thrift stores looking for ANYTHING in particular or hoping for anything. Nobody should go unless like me, they like finding things that they had no idea they wanted until that instant when they saw it. But if you go like that, you will almost certainly find things you've heard of or records by artists you've heard of and wanted. And finding the stuff is not really dependent on how often you go. It's dependent on where you live and how many people like you are doing the same thing as you. I used to go to this thrift store about 50 miles from here and there were a couple of dealers that I saw there everytime I was there. But they didn't want the three Martin Denny records I got there one day. Or the Stereo Actions or the Esquivel or twenty Command records I must have gotten there. But last time I was there, pickings were slimmer and I figured maybe the stuff was catching on in that town. A couple of weeks ago a friend of mine went to a thrift store in Western Canada and picked up HARRY BREUER'S "The Happy Moog" and MARTY GOLD'S "Moog Plays the Beatles".. and gave them to me. Is it that surprising that in some towns, moog records are still viewed the same way they were five or ten years ago? That's far less amazing to me than the thought that someone has to pay $40 for a Claude Denjean record. Generally people who have certain types of records know about used record stores and have been in a few and so they have some idea that their records are worth something. So that's why you don't find lots of jazz at the Goodwill. Then again a friend of mine found 100 good jazz records next to a dumpster once. But Esquivel and Command, the people that owned those generally sell them at garage sales or send them to the Goodwill. If you're not finding them that's only because someone made it his/her job to get there before you. Okay let the thrift wars continue. But please, no more talk of the sad, downtrodden masses who go there. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, August 2 Date: 04 Aug 1998 12:18:59 +0100 cheryl wrote: > Richard Sear: Love Child "The Copper Plated Integrated Circuit" Richard?! "Eagle Eye" Baldock ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrifting: Pro or Con Date: 04 Aug 1998 04:48:24 PDT > >I am curious though, do the members of this list who buy records from >the thrifts buy only records? or do they look around in the store for >other cool and interesting things that they might find? Oh yeah: such stuff as tiki mugs (ceramic and wood), paintings, signed books (got a Seamus Heaney 1st with dedication), Hawaiian shirts, McCoy pottery and pressed aluminum ware for my wife. Yes, I lead a very full life.... >By the way, I finally thrifted a copy of Kraftwerk's 'Trans-Europe >Express' LP.....the cover was ripped to shreds and bypassed by the >collectors, but the disc is in OK shape. I found that one once - the original back cover, the one where the lads have not yet captured that jet-age streamlined look (very hairy). But it was hammered. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) Henry Mancini's First Piano Date: 04 Aug 1998 04:44:51 I got a note from a guy in Henry Mancini's home town of West Aliquippa, PA, who has bought and restored the piano that was in Henry's parent's house and is probably the instrument he first learned to play on. He's looking to sell it. If you are interested, contact him at: midget@forcomm.net Brad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "keir keightley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Antonio Carlos Jobim CD Date: 04 Aug 1998 04:52:45 PDT The 3-CD Verve set is nice, and certainly the packaging is absolutely gorgeous (each CD is held in a different pocket - but they're not pockets - they're unlike anything you've ever seen - different coloured, cardboard cut-outs in the shape of a fish, a flower, and an abstract design - very Japanese). But as a massive Jobim fan, I was disappointed, especially by the 3rd CD, which is Verve "jazz" renditions of a handful of the same songs. Nice idea, but like "alternate takes", stacked one on top of the other on a jazz reissue, I never listen to it. But the set as a whole has the advantage of including a lot of Jobim tracks, plus versions of his songs by Astrud Gilberto, Stan Getz, and some of Jobim's post-60s work (like his duet with Elis Regina). But you're paying mucho dinero for really only 2 CDs, IMHO. Instead, I would spend my money on three of these Jobim CDs: _The Composer Plays_ (Verve) - Jobim's first US album, originally entitled _The Composer of Desafinado Plays_. One of the greatest easy listening albums of all time. _Antonio Carlos Jobim: Composer_ (Warner Archive Series). This contains 2 full LPs made for Warner Bros. in 1965-66, plus some tracks from an instrumental Jobim album _Love, Strings, and Jobim_. This stuff is not as smooth as _The Composer Plays_, but over time I've come to love the shaky roughness of Jobim's voice (and none of this is on the Verve box set). Astrud Gilberto _The Silver Collection_ (Verve). Basically her first two solo albums (1965-66), with Jobim accompanying her on a lot of tracks, plus a selection of greatest hits from subsequent stuff (like her amazing version of "So Nice (Summer Samba)" with the Walter Wanderley trio). But "The Girl from Ipanema" isn't included, for which you'd have to go to the Stan Getz _Getz/Gilberto_ album, which Verve have just reissued with the 45 single edit of "Girl". So that's actually four CDs - but I bet they'll be almost the price the Jobim box set! From BossaNovaVille, Keir ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores Date: 04 Aug 1998 05:03:29 PDT >Anyway, as enticing as this sounds to me, I can NOT get myself to walk up >to some stranger's lawn/garage and start pawing through the accumulated >debris of his life. Really gives me the heebie-jeebies. And then, if you >don't buy anything, it's like you're telling him that his life was of no >worth. ;) Nah, in most cases they believe they are profiting from the sale of crap, crap which, if they had a conscience, they would take to Goodwill or toss. When they see you lumbering up the carport, they are seeing a "mark." They are saying to themselves "please God do not make me have to rent a big U-Haul just to fit that naugahyde lazee-boy, this stack of Jordache jeans. And besides, if s/he hasn't any decent lps, it seems a fair appraisal. >Anyway, am I alone here? Heh. > Frightfully ;) No, I seldom garage sale - it takes forever and only occasionally pays off. Now if you're really a vulture - check out the estate sales. Often some real plunder! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) Buying records from dead people Date: 04 Aug 1998 13:18:16 +0100 A good haul once came from a dead uncle (not mine) who was a fastidious= soundtrck collector. When he died, his relations showed me his boxed collection of LPs, saying 'How do you know how much these records are worth?'. I said, 'I just see them around...' and promptly bought Bullit= t (=A350 book), Fear is the Key (=A360 book) and 20 other quality soundtr= acks for =A390. He had around 1000 soundtracks and valuable classical LPs, all o= f which looked unplayed, in boxes in a cupboard which stretched from floo= r to ceiling. Joy (for me, not for him). I don't want to start a discussion of morals here but I think its a dog= eat dog world and all that. If you're going to die with a load of LPs then you're going to lose them all. = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Antonio Carlos Jobim CD Date: 04 Aug 1998 08:29:04 EDT In a message dated 98-08-03 23:26:32 EDT, cheryls@dsuper.net writes: << I just saw a 3-CD set of of Jobim's work, on Verve - it appears to be a tribute to him, with all sorts of different artists covering his material. The packaging looked incredible, but it was sealed, and there are no track or artist listings on the outside - just a few names and titles. Does anyone know anything about this set, and is is worthwhile? Or is it Jobim overkill? >> It is very good, featuring his own mateerial as well as vocal renditions - its all original stuff from the '60s (not tribute rubbish) but it is sort of overkill as well - especially in the multiple alternate version area that is covered! Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts Date: 04 Aug 1998 08:42:53 -0400 >Okay, please explain why this is painful. I mean, if I see a record that I >wanted and it was really beat, I'd just think, oh, someone really liked that >record because they played it to death. Then I think, oh well, better luck >next time. One of the last estate sales I went to, I saw a Chick Webb record with a vocal from Ella Fiztgerald. The record was completely unplayable, due to the excessive heat this was exposed to, which bubbled up the record in some areas. As I was leaving with a pile of records for all of fifty cents, one of the deceased's grandchildren said, "We used to play frisbee with her records all the time". In THAT case, that was just sad. There are stories of folklorists having found rare records nailed to outhouses and chicken coops as decorations, as well. For the record, Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Antonio Carlos Jobim CD Date: 04 Aug 1998 08:44:18 EDT My favorite Jobim CD is the previously mentioned "Composer" CD. Reprise did a good job here, bringing my two favorite Jobim albums together on one regular priced CD, with several bonus tracks. This is mid-60's Jobim where he sings on almost all of the songs. It is not like 70's A&M records, which some people love, but are kind of boring & saccharine to my ear. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts Date: 04 Aug 1998 08:50:02 EDT In a message dated 8/4/98 8:40:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, hagar@mindspring.net writes: > >Okay, please explain why this is painful. I mean, if I see a record that I > >wanted and it was really beat, I'd just think, oh, someone really liked > that > >record because they played it to death. Then I think, oh well, better luck > >next time. If I find a rare record, that I'd really like to hear, and it is worn out from being overplayed what can I do but accept the fact that the original owner beat me to it. However, when does that ever happen? Records I see that are to beat to play are not damaged from overuse -- but from abuse. And that makes me mad. I see these records that look like someone used them to grade a gravel driveway, before giving it to the cat for a scratching post and I think --- who is the idiot who ruined this thing! Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) re: More on Thrifts Date: 04 Aug 1998 09:26:42 -0400 << p.s. on a slightly related note, I just heard that Emerson College (Boston, MA) today threw their entire vinyl record collection (around 40 years worth of records) into a dumpster, as part of their effort to 'modernize' their radio station [WERS-FM, the studio of which is being rebuilt]. #!^$@*&!!!!!!!!!! >> To that I can only reply, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHH! AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH! AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH! Why didn't they call me??? << SOB >> Then there was the time that the Record Exchange Annex in the Cleveland Heights Conventry area (where I worked) burned to the ground. This was the vinyl/CD store that had all the classical/jazz (and I assume Exotica, though I wouldn't have known at the time) records one could ever hope for. I remember standing in the street thinking I was going to cry. Once it's gone... Peter === Peter Risser risser@goodnews.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim @ World Wide Wax" Subject: (exotica) Electronica/Exotica Auction Date: 04 Aug 1998 06:34:57 +0000 I have a new auction of very interesting records here: http://www.worldwidewax.com/ex/ Enjoy scans of all covers, complete track listings, and some liner notes. Included are: * Mort Garson, The Wozard Of Iz: The Electronic Odyssey * Dick Hyman, Moog * Extended Voices: New Pieces for Chorus & for Voices Altered Electronically By Sound Synthesizers and Vocoder * Karlheinz Stockhausen: Hymnen: Anthems for Electronic & Concrete Sounds * Gil Trythall: Nashville Gold (Moog Country) * Richard Hayman: Cinemagic Sounds * Don Sebesky: The Distant Galaxy * Mort Garson: Signs of the Zodiac--Aries * Leonard Nimoy: Mr. Spock' Music From Outer Space * Esquivel: To Love Again EP * Adventures In Sound & Space * Dominic Frontiere: Love Eyes--The Moods of Romance * The Wind Harp: Song From The Hill * Sid Bass: From Another World * Frank Pourcel: Les Baxter's La Femme * George DeWitt: Name That Tune * Music For the Boyfriend: The Feminine Touch (with Petty Girl cover) * Raymond Scott: Rock 'N Roll Symphony * Penguins: Their first on Dootone I've also added over 500 new set-sale lps. Tim Barron World Wide Wax - Your source for classic vinyl Over 5,000 lps for sale & 600 scanned covers at: http://www.worldwidewax.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Antonio Carlos Jobim CD Date: 04 Aug 1998 09:48:13 -0400 Thanks for the feedback on the Jobim set. I know I can always count on this list! I had a feeling it was so-so, but the packaging (that I could see) looked pretty incredible, and the inside was described to me by the sales clerk, and that sounded even better. I don't think I'd spring for it new, but I probably would pick it up if I found it used (and what are the chances of that ever happening? Who knows?) In the meanwhile, I will check out the other Jobim CDs mentioned - they sound like a better bet! cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, August 2 Date: 04 Aug 1998 09:56:03 -0400 Robbie Baldock wrote: > > Richard Sear: Love Child "The Copper Plated Integrated Circuit" > Richard?! Oops, sorry - that would be Walter Sear. See what happens when I let Brian type up the playlist? (I'm assuming he was checking the name on Richard Hayman & Walter Sear's "Electronic Evolutions" when he did this, as Mr. Sear's first name is nowhere to be found on "The Copper Plated Integrated Circuit"! This is also what happens when you finalise your playlist at 3 a.m., and then type it up!) cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) 2001: A Lyman Oddity Date: 04 Aug 1998 10:08:33 -0400 For the curious (like myself, who has Percussion Spectacular), there is this page http://www.eclipse.net/~fitzgera/labels/hifi.htm , although, it does not list PS, it lists Yellow Bird. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift shopping (and question) Date: 04 Aug 1998 16:05:10 +0000 Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > << (they would rather close the attraction, if Walt hadn't > decreed in his last will that Tiki Room must never be shut down) >> > > Huh? Were you kidding or serious? Did he say that in his will?! People keep telling me that for years. I didn't read his last will, though. It's one of the nice rumors about Walt Disney. Toobad that "Disneyland Babylon" doesn't have a homepage. That fanzine was incredible. It had ALL the great weird stories about the magick kingdom. MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) recommendations, Bert Kaempfert, integrity Date: 04 Aug 1998 10:11:11 -0500 > >I think the reason why I'm so crazed on this topic is because through all >of this, there was a guy like Esquivel who was essentially making records >for the same market as Bert or Ray but it doesn't sound to me like Esquivel >was making any particular attempt to cater to the market. I think it's safe to asume that the American record industry, past and present,makes attempts to cater to a market with EVERY RECORDING ARTIST. We of the nineties may take Esquivel to be hipper that thou and just because it's more difficult for us to imagine that folks in the fifties enjoyed this stuff I think it's a leap to think that RCA issued his stuff out of their philanthopic hearts. I will conced that if you look at the amount of records these respective artists sold that it would seem that Bert and Ray did cater to a lower common denominator.(See below the term "Market Whore") >Everybody was (and is) trying to cater to the market and I suppose there >are records I love that were made by total market whores but in general, I >think that the records I like better were made by musicians who had enough >integrity that they could still do something good while selling out a bit >too. In some respect the music speaks for itself but, artistic integrity is still a difficult thing to peg down, epecially since were restricting the conversation here to pop music. Imagine a different situation where we lauded Ray and Burt for their precision arrangements and considered Esquivel a dupe for throwing in any old goofy effect just to sell a record. I don't want to beat this topic to death for I too would much rather listen to Esquivel than Bert Kaempfert (It would be interesting to see if anyone feels otherwise). I just wanted to make a point for including poor old Bert rather than writing him off. Frank (trying hard not to rant) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) More on Vinyl Destruction Date: 04 Aug 1998 07:14:39 -0700 (PDT) In the mid 70s I was driving past some guy with the back of his pick-up truck full of 45s. He was throwing them into a field. Ahhrrrrrg! I stopped and was able to talk him into giving the records to me. Its always been a wonderful memory everytime I play one of these 45s. The music tended to be New Orleans rock & roll. Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck ---Peter Risser wrote: p.s. on a slightly related note, I just heard that Emerson College (Boston, MA) today threw their entire vinyl record collection (around 40 years worth of records) into a dumpster , Then there was the time that the Record Exchange Annex in the Cleveland area (where I worked) burned to the ground. This was the> vinyl/CD store that had all the classical/jazz (and I assume Exotica, _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney Equation Date: 04 Aug 1998 10:49:43 EDT I was quoted: << "I find it interesting that the Disney "backlash" has only happened in the last 4 or 5 years. Before that no one ever said anything bad about Disney." And m.ace responded: " Not so. Ron Goulart's book, "The Assault On Childhood", with its long and interesting chapter on the Disney machine was published around the late 60s or early 70s. And it includes earlier quotes from others -- Disney skepticism is nothing new. Of course the Disney cross-marketing push was already established in the 30s, so that's nothing new either." >> My response to that is: I am familiar with the comments from that book but that book reached a fairly limited audience. The mass media (newsprint, tv, radio) did not ever say anything bad about Disney until recent years. Sure there have been detractors of Disney all along but the major "viewing" audience (read the masses) did not get word of this until very recently. Because of this I stand by my original comment copied above. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Antonio Carlos Jobim CD Date: 04 Aug 1998 07:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Cheryl: I like the box set for what it does, a variety of interpretations of some of his best songs but I would spend $8.49 at cdnow for Rio Revisted. For me it is the most exotic of all Jobim albums. Lots of girl chorus voices feverishly singing his songs. A big, beautiful prodution of Jobim. You can't go wrong for the price. I noticed there was a video also, I bet its great. Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck ---cheryl wrote: I just saw a 3-CD set of of Jobim's work, on Verve - _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Disney Equation -Reply Date: 04 Aug 1998 11:18:45 -0400 DISNEY SUCKS !!!!!! End of discussion. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Saving Jessica Date: 04 Aug 1998 08:40:33 -0700 (PDT) First Irwin left, then Jack and now the Vinyl Collecting Queen of the Exotica Scene, who is next? Jessica you are in our exotica prayers, I hope all is well. By the way, what albums have you purchased recently? Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Thrifting: Pro or Con and I hope Jesus ain't angry Date: 04 Aug 1998 11:48:08 EDT << On one hand, they supply a steady supply of low cost, used goods to a low-income population. On the other hand, they raise money, by selling these products, which can then be re-distributed to other aspects of their charity. >> And this brings up the "ethics" of haggling over the price at a thrift. Are you taking the money from the needy by haggling? Or just being thrifty (which some friend of mine says if favorable in the eyes of the Lord)? One time I was in a thrift and picked up something I really didn't need and it was marked like $ 2.00. I asked the clerk if they would take $ 1.00 and my brother says, "Hey, you trying to take money from Jesus?" And I said, "Do you think he really needs it?" My brother and I broke up laughing but the clerk was not amused. I kindly returned the item to the dirty stack from where it came, said a brief prayer and got the hell outta there. Heathenly, Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) Hey, wait..... Date: 04 Aug 1998 12:12:53 Pacific Daylight Time A recent thread here has been about the "morality" of shopping in thrift stores, garage sales etc. I have nothing to add on that, but let me tell you this: When I was living in Edmonton last summer, Herb Alpert came to town. Ticket price? 46 dollars and tax, Canadian. Now THAT'S immoral! Darren! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores Date: 04 Aug 1998 12:03:56 -0400 At 11:57 PM 03/08/98 -0700, Eb wrote: >Anyway, as enticing as this sounds to me, I can NOT get myself to walk up >to some stranger's lawn/garage and start pawing through the accumulated >debris of his life. My biggest problem is that I can NOT get myself awake early enough. But I can appreciate this concern too. You have to smile at the people... though a weak smile will usually suffice. You have to nod a couple of times as if to say "nice stuff!". Then when you determine that they have no records, you have to pick up a couple of things just to feign interest. Having said this though, in my experience the general rules that apply to thrift stores as far as what you are likely or unlikely to find, go out the window with garage sales. You might find ANYTHING at a garage sale. The dealer-issue still applies. If the garage sale is advertised, chances are dealers will show up before the announced start-time and sometimes the record dealers will just buy the whole box. But luckily, most sales are not advertised quite that way. But there's no type of record that I haven't found at a garage sale from great jazz to Moog records to you name it. This summer I've yet to find a good garage sale but I haven't left my neighbourhood and I think my neighbourhood is kind of dried up. A friend of mine who does it more seriously - and hits the outlying areas - picked up 450 records in the first few weeks of this season and he won't buy just anything. I should also add that from time to time, if you see no records, you should ask anyway. Sometimes they don't put the records out even though they'd apparently love to get rid of them. Your heart can skip a beat or two when you ask for the hell of it whether they have any records and moments later you see one of them emerge with a "fresh" box of records. But back to the original point, yes garage sales are kind of personal. At the thrift store, you can look around and say out loud "What a bunch of crap!" At a garage sale you have to be polite and even phoney... which can be a challenge. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Buying records (and stuff) from dead people Date: 04 Aug 1998 12:07:04 EDT In a message dated 98-08-04 08:18:55 EDT, Charles wrote: << A good haul once came from a dead uncle (not mine) who was a fastidious soundtrck collector. When he died, his relations showed me his boxed collection >> About 10 years ago a school mate of mine and I were in Philadelphia for an optometry meeting and we went to the market area (famous scene in Rocky one). There was this shop there where they sold old shoes, just tons of old shoes. My friend picks up this nice pair of penny loafers and tries them on and they fit. He buys them from the lady and wears them out. On the way out he ask, "Hey were do you get these shoes from anyway?" And she replies, "From the morgue!". He wore those shoes thru the rest of optometry school and saw many a patient in those loafers. Maybe this is why at funerals you only see the top half of the person in the casket. Some freaking mortician has sold the bastard's shoes! And no telling what they did with his Lyman records! Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Disney Equation -Sucks Reply Date: 04 Aug 1998 12:10:28 EDT In a message dated 98-08-04 11:19:10 EDT, Nat wrote: << DISNEY SUCKS !!!!!! End of discussion. >> and like he would just throw one of those Tiki Room ablums in the shit can if one came across his desk??? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) That's his suit (but where's his shoes, LPs, and, Date: 04 Aug 1998 12:15:35 -0500 CHICAGO, Aug. 4 (UPI) -- The family of Benny Morris was shocked when they showed up to view his body before his funeral. Another corpse was wearing Morris's brown suit Monday, and his body was nowhere to be found. A spokesman for the Corbin Colonial Funeral Chapel on Chicago's West Side said Morris died at 48 of a heart attack on Sunday and was to be buried today. A family member who attended the visitation said the body in his brother's suit and casket did resemble Morris but was that of a much younger man in his 30s. Police are investigating the missing body as a possible theft. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Hey, wait. . .Don't I know you? Date: 04 Aug 1998 12:17:49 EDT In a message dated 98-08-04 12:04:36 EDT, darren observed: << but let me tell you this: When I was living in Edmonton last summer, Herb Alpert came to town. Ticket price? 46 dollars and tax, Canadian. Now THAT'S immoral! >> Herb Alpert I don't know about. But this is kinda erie: I swear, Willie Nelson follows me around to the thrifts I frequent!!! Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) Hey, wait..... Date: 04 Aug 1998 09:20:38 PDT Hey, it's still less than a pack of cigarettes will cost you. But they both cause cancer. >A recent thread here has been about the "morality" of shopping in thrift stores, garage sales etc. I have nothing >to add on that, but let me tell you this: When I was living in Edmonton last summer, Herb Alpert came to town. >Ticket price? 46 dollars and tax, Canadian. Now THAT'S immoral! > >Darren! > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: (exotica) re exotica suggestions Date: 04 Aug 1998 09:22:03 PDT >But I strongly suspect that if you'd asked Edmondo himself about his >records versus Cugat's or Prado's, he himself would have said that >those >guys were "too way out" for his or his audience's taste. I disagree, Cugat and Prado are for those who take their mambo seriously (and i for one really enjoy them). But (with the exception of Voodoo Suite) are they really more 'way out' than Edmundo doing a latin version of 'If i were a rich man' which segues from an intro of 'hava nagila'? You may have lost your jazz purism but it seems you like your exotica with a puritan flavour! rob (not Robert or Robbie) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts and Disposability Date: 04 Aug 1998 12:23:10 -0400 At 08:50 AM 04/08/98 EDT, SLarry3595@aol.com wrote: > Records I see that are >to beat to play are not damaged from overuse -- but from abuse. And that >makes me mad. >who is the idiot who ruined this thing! I can appreciate the feeling of disappointment when a find turns out to be not such a find after all. And if it's not good enough to direct your protests at an unfair God, I can see how you look for an imaginary person instead. But the fact that records were abused, used as coasters, plates or facial cleansers.. that's inextricably connected to what's cool about this whole pursuit we're involved in. These records weren't made to last throughout the ages! They weren't made to be collected. They were made like any other disposable item, to become obsolete and to be discarded. You were supposed to play them a few times and then move on to the next purchase. Okay I'm sure there are exceptions to that. Artists who made records that they hoped would last for ages. But still, especially with the records that are discussed on this list, part of the fun surely is in reclaiming and giving value to the disposable items of the past. If records were so precious that no respectable person would abuse them, then I suspect I wouldn't be here and neither would this list be. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: "Sound Gallery" curators' other releases? Date: 04 Aug 1998 14:32:17 +0200 wrote: >But what I'm wondering is, has anyone heard of their other two releases listed >in the "Erotica" liner notes: "Cinema 100" and/or "Movie Grooves"? I have been trying to find these for *months*, without any success... Johan quiet@village.uunet.be | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Russo" Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney Equation -Sucks Reply Date: 04 Aug 1998 10:12:19 -0700 >>>DISNEY SUCKS !!!!!! End of discussion. First paragraph from a VILLAGE VOICE article entitled "Rats! That Corporate Rodent Descends Upon Central Park--Again" by Guy Trebay (July 14, 1998) "Does anyone else get the creeps from that sinister rodent? Or do people really still think of him as a jolly ambassador of all-American entertainment? Is it possible some folks are at least a tiny bit disturbed by the bland iconic presence masking a corporate empire that reams Third World workers, banalizes American culture, and operates theme parks constructed along the lines of totalitarian dream states? Or are we all too besotted watching Disney ratchet up the Dow to notice the ominous shadow of mouse ears darkening the land?" C. "Ratso" Russo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Adventures in Stereo and More Date: 04 Aug 1998 10:29:03 -0700 (PDT) I received Adventures In Stereo's second album "Alternative Stereo Sounds" released this year on the Marina label. If you're not familiar with them they are a very soft lounge version of Bananarama without the synthisized dance beats, modern girl group pop exotica. The album is is worth owning but is not a must have, 4 out of 5 stars. I receive the cds from Roudabout Records, International Pop Mailorder, Post Office Box 76302, Washington DC 20013-6302. Also from Roundabout I got the Aperitivo v/a compilation on Siesta, no date. Its definitely more influenced by pop then the great Expresso compilation cd also on Siesta. The songs are genrally soft ballads a few instumentals but there are some pop songs on this cd so I can't recommend it for every on the list but definitely buy the Expresso cd. On Siesta/ Mercury 1996, I received La Buena Vida's cd "Soidemersol". Great soft underproduced lounge songs sung in spanish. This is a cool cd of great male and female vocals with an occasional instrumental. I love their song and I get to practice my spanish. Are there any exoticats from Spain or Latin America on the list? I highly advise buying Trembling Blue Stars, " her handwriting" 1996, Shinkannsen for anyone with a broken relationship. The soft underproduced songs are very depressing and detail the end of an affair. The words to the songs are very believable, modern angst at its best and a very easy listen. Laserlight has finally shown up at Virgin Reords with a few choice exotica compilations, released in 1996, my favorite being the Bachelor's Little Black Book, with exotica standards and obsurities. Patricia by Prad, Ruby by Richard Hayman, Celito Linda by Percy Faith, Mr Kelly & Me & Main Title from Joanna by Artur Greensdale, Melina by the Strayan Strings, Anna by Silvana Mangano, Vanesa by Hugo Winterhalter, Adios Marquita Linda by the great Esquivel and a few other good selections and its hard to believe its from Laserlight with that nice price. Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) re exotica suggestions Date: 04 Aug 1998 13:31:42 -0400 At 09:22 AM 04/08/98 PDT, Robert McKenna wrote: Cugat and Prado are for those who take their mambo seriously >(and i for one really enjoy them) Well I don't take my mambo seriously - whatever that means - but I do prefer Cugat and Prado yes. I don't think they took it seriously either. I don't really know what serious mambo is. I think all these guys did "American-ized" commercial mambo records and didn't give a hoot about authenticity. And neither do I. . But (with the exception of Voodoo >Suite) are they really more 'way out' than Edmundo doing a latin version >of 'If i were a rich man' which segues from an intro of 'hava nagila'? Well obviously we disagree on the meaning of "way out". Yes, from a certain point of view Edmondo did things that were way out. On "Arriba" he has singing versions of "Heartaches" and "The Laughing Samba" which I would call way out and I would also call "nearly unbearable". Seguing from "if I were a rich man" to "hava nagila" is just another terribly clever juxtaposition of two tunes associated with Jews. I heard a similarly clever segueway from every Bar Mitzvah band working the circuit in the sixties. Clever medleys are for some reason, still at the bottom of the list for me. >You may have lost your jazz purism but it seems you like your exotica >with a puritan flavour! Well okay, I know that's a flame but as a paid-up member of the anti-Edmondo army (a division of Self-Righteous Arbiters of Taste), I'm used to flames. It's interesting to see someone use the words "exotica" and "puritan" in the same sentence. Let me try it this way. You have a friend into rock n roll and jazz but not into exotica generally. He or she finds it a bit too much like Muzak. If you want to win them over to the exotica side - for God knows what reason - are you going to make them a tape with the best of Perez Prado (or Cugat) or the best of Edmondo Ros? I have a feeling you'll say Edmondo. Whatever... Maybe you don't want to convince your fictional friend after all. Or maybe you find Edmondo more "typical" of easy listening so you want to drag them down before you lift them up. Edmondo's okay. He's a fine musician and arranger. So are Frank Mills and Hagood Hardy (a little Canadian content for a change) and countless others. I never said that Edmondo did NOTHING good. I recommended a few of his records as I recall. If you had all his countless records I bet you could make one hot tape. But cut for cut, over the long haul, Edmondo is just a bit more tepid, a bit more subdued, a bit more "commercial", a bit more "easy" listening than Cugat or Prado. You have five or six Edmondo records and five or six Prado or Cugat and you're in a thrift store and you can only take one more - they have a limit for some reason - and it's a choice between Edmondo and Prado and you're thinking that you'd like to hear a little PASSION, a little excitement... well I'd take the Prado record. If wanting the excitement is puritanical, well I guess I'll have to give those puritans another look. How about another word? Joy. And if you have an Edmondo cut that has a GROOVE like Cugat's versions of Night Train or Apache, I've yet to hear it. I like a groove. Edmondo's records only have one groove on each side. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk) Subject: Re: (exotica) Antonio Carlos Jobim CD Date: 04 Aug 1998 10:15:58 -1000 >I just saw a 3-CD set of of Jobim's work, on Verve - it appears to be a >tribute to him, with all sorts of different artists covering his >material. The packaging looked incredible, but it was sealed, and there >are no track or artist listings on the outside - just a few names and >titles. Does anyone know anything about this set, and is is worthwhile? >Or is it Jobim overkill? I also have the set, and to agree with what others have said, it is probably only worth it for the Jobim-obsessive/completists (that would be me) or those who are especially enamored of gorgeous and creative packaging (not me). I did want to add that it really isn't all 1960s material, which is one of the downfalls. I'd say about half 60s, and half 70s/80s with a disproportionate number of tracks from the rather lame "big ensemble" 80s album, "Passagim" (spelling?). Also, a fairly big cross-section of the 70s instumental stuff from "Wave" and "Tide", which is an acquired taste for many. And yes, the third "Side By Side" disc is ill-conceived to say the least. It does have a tasty chunk of the 60s Getz/Jobim-era material, but you will probably be left feeling hungry for MORE. Personally, I listen much more often to the 4-CD Verve set that you'll probably find filed under "Stan Getz" called "The Bossa Nova Years". This is also very reasonably priced (I think mine was about $35), and packaged in a boring old jewel box. It has all the classic Getz/Jobim/Gilberto material, some rare live stuff, plus the Getz/Almeida and "Big Band Bossa Nova" albums, all in one handy package. This set is shuffle play heaven. Hopefully it is still available. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!! *** *** *** Steve Funk (sfunk@pop.adn.com) Anchorage, AK USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Benton Reed Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrifting: Pro or Con Date: 04 Aug 1998 17:28:22 -0400 itsvern@ibm.net wrote: > I am curious though, do the members of this list who buy records from > the thrifts buy only records? or do they look around in the store for > other cool and interesting things that they might find? > I probably buy more books from thrifts than I do records. Scruffy books read ok, but scruffy records...well, you get the gist. Something I wonder about...CDs are just now coming into thrift stores in my area (Columbus, GA). In what year does everyone think thrift stores will have more CDs than vinyl? Mark Reed Phenix City AL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Diamond Subject: (exotica) Playlist for Jaaaaaaaaaaack Date: 04 Aug 1998 15:16:57 -0700 Hey kids! KFJC play list 2/25/96 for Jack Diamond ARTIST TRACK ALBUM Planets Chunky Frank Wess,Kenny Burrell, Kenny Clark-Drums Wess Side SAVOY/56,7 Ferrante & Teicher Bye Bye Blues Blast Off/Abc Mindexpanders Theme From 67 Al Viola Lemon Twist Gtrs. Vol 2, Liberty Don Ralke Mombasa Bongos/WB Bob Crewe Generation Music to Watch Girls By Pepsi Comm. Music Axel Stordahl Caravan(!!!) Dot Esquivel Marie Inf Vol. 1 Maxwell, Robert Accidental Slip on An [coll]: Cocktail Mix Orient Carpet Vol #1 Jerry Goldsmith Double Cross Last Run Googie Rene/Plas Johnson Jack Costanzo Cool It at the Coliseum Stu Phillips Sunday Arts & Football 67 Roy Clark Blues and Clark Dot Moondog Symphonique # 6 Mel Henke You're Drivin' Me Crazy Electric Flag Peter Gets Off The Trip Mel Henke Woman in Space Les Baxter/S.Hoffman Lunar Rhapsody 10"/Capitol Esquivel/S.Hoffman(?) Spellbound In Stereo/Rca Vi Velasco/Zoot Sims Recado(The Message) Colpix/Oct 62 Allyn Ferguson Sextet Sextet for Contemporaries Pete Rugolo Rugolo Meets Shearing Adventures Kenyon Hopkins The Hustler Kapp Stanley Wilson,Cond. Johnny Wiliams,Comp. The Chase/M-Squad Nordine Sky,Envelope,Roller TWINK Skate,Blotter Ray Martin The Breeze & I Excitement, Inc. Stereo Action Rca George Duning with Conte & Pete Candoli Zodiac Blues Bell,Book and Candle Mancini The Happy Carousel Charade Jac Zinder Pet Sounds Catasonic June Wilkinson Deep Breathing Stretch Dena & Danny Guglielmi Out of Nowhere Tops Mancini Teen Age Hostage Exp in Terror Jane Birkin,Serge Gainsberg Je T'aime Folkswingers Hey Joe Sal Salvador Deep Down/Decca 9210-MOOD Jazz in Hifi Nelson Riddle Untouchables Theme Capitol Nini Olivero Music Car Johnny Richards Ofo Rites of Diablo Dom Frontiere Listen to Lou LIBERTY/1-56 Eliminators Staccato Easy Project Martin Denny Song of the Bayou Ex Perc. Kenyon Hopkins Haunted House NIGHTMARE/64 Tom Dissvelt/Kid Baltan Moon Maids Limelight Marty Manning You Stepped Out of a Dream 60, Twilight Zone Stu Phillips Intern Fever Interns Pierre Henry Teen Tonic 63/LIMELIGHT Vic Mizzy Daybreak at Malibu Don't Make Waves McDuff, Brother Jack Hot Barbecue [coll]: Cocktail Mix Vol. #2 Campilongo, Jim Blue Hen ... and the 10 Gallon Cats Gershon Kingsley 1ST Moog Qrt-Popcorn A.F./1972 Campilongo, Jim Splitsville ... and the 10 Gallon Cats Martin Denny Yellow Bird 67/MOOG Pete Rugolo Diamond on the Move KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 KFJC play list 2/25/96 for Jack Diamond lllllllllllllllllllllllater, Jack "Attilio Mineo Conducts Man in Space With Sounds" Now on CD! Http://www.jackdiamond.com/attilio.htm Http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-64169/ Publicity by Motormouth Media (Hollywood, CA) *Primary* Wholesale Distribution in the US: NAIL Distribution 1-888-Nail-Inc (Toll Free) http://www.bubblator@naildistribution.com/ OR Wholesale/Retail Sales: Jack Diamond Music Http://www.jackdiamond.com Fax/Phone (650) 325-2284 European Wholesale Distribution/Retail Sales Stefan Kery/Subliminal Sounds Stefan@subliminal.se Fax/Phone +46 8 694 86 66 web-site: http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-64169/ e-mail: stefan@subliminal.se Tune in The House of Games with Jack Diamond Sundays 10AM-1PM Http://www.KFJC.org KFJC-FM, 89.7 12345 El Monte Rd. Los Altos Hills, CA Since January 1993 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) Exotica-Related Reference Book Date: 04 Aug 1998 19:00:52 -0400 Trying to put the book section of the FAQ on slightly firmer ground, I've been looking through music books at our public library. . . it seems that even the most relevant ones only have about 2% exotica content. . . but then I came across a new book that I thought some of you would be interested in: _Conductors and Composers of Popular Orchestral Music_ by Reuben and Naomi Musiker (1998, Greenwood Press) ISBN 0-313-30260-X This has biographical sketches (of a half-page to a couple of pages) for folks who were active starting in the 40s and 50s. And I would say the exotica quotient was easily 30%--people like Stanley Black, Marty Gold, Al Nevins, Mantovani, Bert Kaempfert, etc. The writing style is pretty dry, but one bonus for vinyl-hounds is that many entries have partial or complete discographies including catalog numbers. If you're a fan of the biographical info in Brad's Space Age Pop Standards site (and who isn't!), this book may be for you. Greenwood Press is at: 88 Post Road West, Westport CT 06881, USA. Happy browsing, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Lord Hawke obit Date: 04 Aug 1998 19:51:31 -0500 KINGSTOWN, St. Vincent (AP) -- Calypso singer Lloyd Providence, better known as Lord Hawke, was found dead Monday morning in his home on the Caribbean island of St. Vincent, police reported. He was 54. Providence appeared to have died from natural causes, police said. Providence was widely considered a master of Caribbean calypso, heavily rhythmic music with African roots and lyrics rich in political satire. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) List FAQ, version 1.1 Date: 04 Aug 1998 20:14:03 -0400 Hey everybody, here's the revised FAQ, all eleven kilobytes of it. Sorry. . . I'm still looking for feedback on the "books" section: if I listed something you think is junk, or omitted something you think is essential, just send me note explaining why. I tended to list books only when I'd seen them myself or if somebody had posted a good description to the list--I left out several where I only had a title to go on. Also, a (?) means I still need to know a publisher for those titles. . . Let me know what you think, --Ross ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Exotica Mailing List FAQ [Second Draft] 4 August 1998 Q: What is "exotica"? A: A musical genre, named for the 1957 Martin Denny album of the same title. Most narrowly defined, it refers to lounge jazz augmented with polynesian, asian and latin instruments and "tropical" themes. The exotica style was pioneered by composer Les Baxter, and popularized by such artists as Denny, Arthur Lyman, and Gene Rains. In the context of this mailing list, it is used as a term of convenience to cover many genres of 50s and 60s music--most might fall under the general umbrella of "space age pop instrumentals." These include percussion, cha-cha, soundtracks, "Now Sound," Bossa Nova, moog, and a thousand other subcategories according to the taste of each individual. (I use "exotica" in the remainder of this FAQ to cover all these possiblities.) Q: Is it correct to call this music "lounge"? A: Well, as a way of describing the *music* (as opposed to "the scene") there are some objections to the word--but you might as well get used to it: That is the most common term used to descibe exotica by the outside world (e.g. in labelling bins in the music store). However "lounge" might be interpreted as including some legitimate jazz, torch singers, etc.--all of which are a little more mainstream than the interests of list members. Also, the connotation of subdued, low-energy music clearly doesn't apply to the more dynamic sounds of performers like Esquivel. Q: Well, what is the correct term? A: There is no answer to this, although people have variously suggested Space Age Bachelor-Pad; Easy; Cocktail; Hi-Fi; Space Age Pop; Cheesy Listening; Dynamica; etc. Q: If someone were just beginning to search for exotica records, what would be some good things to look out for? A: Though such a list is bound to be incomplete and disputable, here are some suggestions: * Martin Denny or Arthur Lyman LPs * Juan Garcia Esquivel LPs (rare today) * Glossy albums (often gatefold) on "Hi-Fi" labels like Command, Phase Four, Mercury "Perfect Presence," Time, Audio Fidelity, Directional Sound, etc. * Albums with "Percussion" in the title * Latin music as performed by American or European studio musicians * RCA's "Stereo Action" Series (thick, white, die-cut covers) * Early Ferrante and Teicher (with prepared piano) * The Three Suns RCA "Living Stereo" LPs * Electric organ virtuosos (Lenny Dee, Dick Hyman, etc.) * Pop instrumentals featuring harpsichord, sitar, or harp * Inappropriate cover versions ("Light My Fire" on pipe organ, etc.) * Hawaiian music as performed by non-Hawaiians * Albums showcasing moog synthesizer * "Now Sound" LPs (Brass Ring, etc.) * Albums with "discotheque" or "au go-go" in the title Q: Many people still regard this music as "obviously awful." Do exotica fans REALLY enjoy this music or is it all some ironic put-on? A: Fans of exotica are well aware that these genres have been reviled as "easy listening" or "plastic" by the rock generation; for some, a perverse kitsch appeal was the starting point. However most would say that the more time you spend with this music, the more your appreciation grows for its energy, inventiveness, and musicianship, and for the creativity of the arrangements--despite the somewhat misguided concepts that may have been explored. Also, the orginal intent to create "commercial" music for a particular market can no longer be regarded as something sinster--by now it must be seen as a fascinating anthropological window into the spirit of an earlier time. Q: Are there some good books & magazines on the subject of Exotica? A: The books mentioned most often on the exotica list are volumes 1 & 2 of _Incredibly Strange Music_, by V. Vale and Andrea Juno (RE/search), and _Elevator Music_, by Joseph Lanza (Picador). The "Vik's Lounge" website maintains an excellent exotica book list, with cover photos and capsule summaries, at: http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/reading.html General works about music with some exotica content: Conductors and Composers of Popular Orchestral Music, Reuben and Naomi Musiker (Greenwood) The Penguin Encyclopedia of Popular Music, Donald Clarke, ed. (Viking) Top Pop Albums 1955-1996, Joel Whitburn (Record Research) The Record Label Guide for Domestic LPs, Joe Lindsay (Biodisc) TV's Biggest Hits, Jon Burlingame (Schirmer) Goldmine's Celebrity Vocals, Ron Lofman (?) Goldmine's Comedy Record Price Guide, Ronald L. Smith (?) ASCAP Biographical Dictionary (Bowker) Hawaiian Music and Musicians: An Illustrated History, George Kanahele, ed. (University Press of Hawaii) Disco Duck and Other Adventures in Novelty Music, Ace Collins (Berkley Boulevard) The Exotic in Western Music, Jonathan Bellman, ed. (Northeastern) The Recording Angel: Explorations in Phonography, Evan Eisenberg (?) Bootleg: The Secret History of the Other Recording Industry, Clinton Heylin (?) Schwann Long Playing Record Catalog (annual, back issues from relevant years) On electronic music: Electronic and Computer Music, Peter Manning (Oxford) Vintage Synthesizers, Mark Vail (GPI/Miller Freeman) A Guide to Electronic Music, Paul Griffiths (Thames & Hudson) Electronic and Experimental Music, Thomas Holmes (Scribners) On retro style: Hi-fi's & Hi-balls: The Golden Age of the American Bachelor, Steven Guarnaccia and Bob Sloan (Chronicle) Populuxe, Thomas Hine (Knopf) Contemporary, Lesley Jackson (Phaidon) Music "scenes" and generational identity: Subcultures, Dick Hebdige (?) 13th Gen, Neil Howe and Bill Strauss (?) Club Cultures, Sarah Thornton (?) Exotica-related zines (some may no longer be active): Cannot Become Obsolete Cool & Strange Music! Exotica/Etc. Thrift Score Tiki News My Vinyl Recliner Easy Listener Mystery Date Organs and Bongos Q: Are there any good websites covering Exotica and Lounge? A: Yes! Hands down, the best one-stop information site about exotica performers and composers is Brad Bigelow's "Space Age Pop Standards": http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/index.htm A master jumping-off point for dozens of other lounge-related sites can be found via King Kini's "Club Velvet," at: http://www.tamboo.com/loungelinks.html and also via Vik's Lounge, at: http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/viklink.html Q: Is it bad or good when your previously-obscure little hobby becomes a genuine, media-approved "scene"? A: Well, you may be annoyed when a bunch of shallow people start crashing your party, knowing next to nothing about the music and just wanting to be part of a fad--but their numbers do tend to get the attention of record company executives, with the happy result that some impossible-to-find material (like Esquivel LPs) gets re-released on CD. As of 1998 we are experiencing the flip side of this trend, as the media stampede is now headed towards "swing" (another media label which blurs together several genres). While there are points of overlap with exotica, it has generally been interpreted as the waning of "Lounge." The downside has been an abrupt dropoff in exotica re-releases. But there's some speculation that finding vintage exotica on vinyl may be getting (infinitesimally) easier, as some collectors move on to other genres. Q: Are the Capitol "Ultra Lounge" CDs any good? A: The series is entertainingly packaged and aggressively promoted, and generally helped improve the visibility of "Lounge." However the repertoire came entirely from the vaults of Capitol (and its affliliates), so some of the real titans of exotica got left out (e.g. Esquivel, Enoch Light); and some of what got included was fairly generic. Nonetheless, a few of the CDs (e.g. "Bachelor Pad Royale") are considered essential. Some have objected to the way the UL series became the 800-Pound Gorilla of Lounge, sucking up all the consumer dollars which might otherwise have gone to supporting re-releases of individual classic exotica albums. Q: Is it possible to find good records in thrift stores, or are those LPs all just destroyed Barbara Streisand albums? (Corollary: Is it worth paying "dealer prices" for LPs I want, or am I getting ripped off?) A: Two different exotica fans, both behaving with complete economic rationality, can arrive at very different answers to this one. Thrifting makes sense for people with free time, moderate incomes, who might go thrifting anyway for other reasons, and who live in areas with good thrifting demographics. This might mean rural or shrinking industrial areas where young hipsters tend to move away, but where a stable, older middle class still lives. Busy professionals who live in trendier urban areas will probably find thrifting a waste of time. For them, the service provided by dealers in locating and culling LPs is generally worth the premium charged. One misconception is that the condition of thrift store records is uniformly bad; in fact the condition is extremely variable, ranging from unplayable to near mint. And at prices of $1 per LP or lower, it becomes possible to take chances on unknown albums or to accept disks in poorer condition, just to learn more about different artists. Q: What is the best way to clean really dirty old records? A: The purist, or someone with many records to deal with, should investigate the various wet/vacuum record cleaners from Nitty Gritty, VPI, or The Audio Advisor. Although the cost of these machines seems high, users are uniformly positive about them. People on a budget or with more casual needs generally do fine washing records in the kitchen sink with dish soap and a clean sponge. Tap water in many areas can leave behind "crunchy" mineral residues when it dries--give a final rinse in distilled water, or at least be vigilant in shaking and blotting away water droplets from the disk. Q: Is it wrong to buy bootlegs? A: Virtually all agree they would prefer to see a legitimate release, where the original artists receive credit and royalties where possible. In some cases the existence of bootlegs can undermine the market for such legitimate releases. However some feel there is a gray area, where rights-holders have thrown up impossible obstacles to a legitmate release, and where the intent is more to make hard-to-find music available rather than as a mercenary venture. Whatever your ethical views are, the rapid spread of digital reproduction technology is certain to make the issue even more confused in coming years. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [ Please send any additions, corrections, comments, suggested changes in language, etc. to Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr at .] --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com (Lou Smith) Subject: (exotica) Pat Boone Comes To Year 2000 Rescue Date: 05 Aug 1998 02:23:22 GMT ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA, U.S.A., 1998 AUG 4 (NB) -- Worried about computer systems and networks not being able to handle the Year 2000 date change? Fear not. Pat Boone, the `50s crooner with the white bucs, is joining the campaign for a smooth millennium. Boone is joining the Year 2000 National Educational Taskforce (Y2KNET) to raise public awareness about the Millennium Bug. "I want to help bring Y2K to the family dinner table for dialogue," said Boone, who brought black rhythm and blues to a white audience by recording Little Richard's "Tutti Frutti," and has recently recorded an album called "In A Metal Mood, No More Mr. Nice Guy." "Now it is time to begin discussing individual and community preparation for Y2K-related problems." "I want to stress that I don't believe there is any reason to panic," the crooner said. To do his part in keeping America cool and calm, Boone has recorded the first in a series of public service announcements (PSAs) for radio broadcast offering free Y2K information, called "Y2KCPR resources." The resources will include a 48-page special collector's edition of Y2K News Magazine called "The Many Faces of Y2K," and a free Y2KCPR audiotape of Y2KNET's recent Atlanta Roundtable with Ed Yourdon as the keynote. Free copies of Y2KCPR are available by calling Y2KNET toll-free at 877-4-Y2KCPR. Larger quantity reprints for civic, government, trade shows, educational seminars, or church groups, costing $0.20 each, are available by calling Y2K News at 888/925-9925. Radio stations may download the 47 second Boone Y2K PSA from http://www.y2knet.com or http://www.y2knews.com . But despite Boone's involvement, the information industry knows it will take more than calm voices to prepare for the Year 2000 date change. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) oncoming tv Date: 04 Aug 1998 21:40:11 -0400 A few things this coming weekend on US teletubbies, er television... (eastern daylight times) Saturday morning - 7:00am, Sunday morning - 4:00am - A&E - "Beat The Devil" (1954) A droll, casual comedy directed by John Huston, scripted by Huston and Truman Capote. Set mostly in a small Mediterranean sea-port, Humphrey Bogart, Gina Lollobrigida, Jennifer Jones, Robert Morley, Peter Lorre and a few others play ne'er-do-wells out to make money on African uranium claims. Shot on location in Italy. It feels like they were all just hanging out and decided to do a movie. I know that's not true, but that's the wonderfully casual feeling the movie has. Saturday night/Sunday morning - 2:00am - AMC - "Murder, Inc." (1960) No-nonsense true tales crime saga with Peter Falk as syndicate killer, Abe Reles. With Stuart Whitman, Henry Morgan, May Britt, Sarah Vaughan, Joseph Campanella, Morey Amsterdam. Memorable for the scene where "Columbo" stabs "Buddy" in the gut. Sunday - 1:05pm, 8:00pm, Monday morning - 5:00am - Bravo - The "Dusty Springfield: Full Circle" documentary gets a few more airings. Very good, lots of cool 60s footage. Presented by Jennifer Saunders and Dawn French. Sadly, if you haven't heard, Dusty is now in her second battle with cancer. Sunday night (or is it Monday morning) - Midnight, Monday - 7:00pm, Tuesday - 5:00am - Bravo - The recently mentioned "Soul Of Stax" documentary runs again. It's not actually a new production from Bravo, but a French/British production done a few years ago. "Teletubbies" -- er, yes. Fans of unusual television should indeed catch an episode. I wouldn't want to make a habit of watching it, but I have seen one episode, and it's definitely very odd. Then again, if you can't handle "sickly pop" (to use Jill's phrase), you might want to steer clear. Check your local PBS station's morning schedule. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Disney again! Date: 04 Aug 1998 23:39:34 EST Nat wrote: > << DISNEY SUCKS !!!!!! > End of discussion. I'll put it more politely... With all due respect to Walt, the Enchanted Tiki Room, and the great Disney imagination of the past, being neither a Spielberg fan nor a frequent visitor to McDonalds, I haven't got a whole lot of respect for what its become. In one of the more arrogant forms of corporate markerting greed, Disney chose to "reissue" as "limited editions" classic Disney films only once every xx years both to theatres and to video (of course usually around key holidays and with convenient product launches attached). I think the strategy failed as most stores seem to have large stocks. But really, depriving kids of these classics to get higher sales, now that's worthy of respect! I won't even touch on the remakes... Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter C Subject: Re: (exotica) That's his suit (but where's his shoes, LPs, and, um...hisself?) Date: 04 Aug 1998 23:29:57 -0700 (PDT) ---Lou Smith wrote: > > > Police are investigating the missing body as a possible theft. Let´s give them a clue: try nearest Thrift store #P# _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter C Subject: Re: (exotica) Lord Hawke obit Date: 04 Aug 1998 23:36:10 -0700 (PDT) ---Lou Smith wrote: > > >KINGSTOWN, St. Vincent (AP) -- Calypso singer Lloyd Providence, betterknown as Lord Hawke, was found dead Monday morning in his home on the Caribbean island of St. Vincent, police reported. He was 54. >Providence appeared to have died from natural causes, police said. Sounds more like Voodoo to me #P# _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney again! Date: 05 Aug 1998 11:05:58 +0000 Brian Karasick wrote: > I'll put it more politely... With all due respect to Walt, the > Enchanted Tiki Room, and the great Disney imagination of the past, > being neither a Spielberg fan nor a frequent visitor to McDonalds, > I haven't got a whole lot of respect for what its become. > > In one of the more arrogant forms of corporate markerting greed, > Disney chose to "reissue" as "limited editions" classic Disney > films only once every xx years both to theatres and to video (of > course usually around key holidays and with convenient product > launches attached). I think the strategy failed as most stores seem > to have large stocks. But really, depriving kids of these classics to > get higher sales, now that's worthy of respect! I won't even touch on > the remakes... After Walt's death things went awfully wrong... Walt would never ever have allowed to serve food on paper plates with plastic forks in ... France! MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) List FAQ, version 1.1 Date: 05 Aug 1998 11:06:28 +0000 Exotica legislation. Constitutional law reading 1.1. Votes: Bavarian delegate: approved! MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney Equation -Sucks Reply Date: 05 Aug 1998 11:06:58 +0000 Carl Russo wrote: > First paragraph from a VILLAGE VOICE article entitled "Rats! That Corporate > Rodent Descends Upon Central Park--Again" by Guy Trebay (July 14, 1998) > > "Does anyone else get the creeps from that sinister rodent? Or do people > really still think of him as a jolly ambassador of all-American > entertainment? Is it possible some folks are at least a tiny bit disturbed > by the bland iconic presence masking a corporate empire that reams Third > World workers, banalizes American culture, and operates theme parks > constructed along the lines of totalitarian dream states? Or are we all too > besotted watching Disney ratchet up the Dow to notice the ominous shadow of > mouse ears darkening the land?" While these interpretations must seem familiar to any intelligent soul that ever encountered the Disney empire, the fascination of Disneyland remains. It is not despite but because of this ambiguity of the glossy surface on one hand and the law & orderdly, well... fascist, background of it on the other. You can actually SEE how society works when watching this masterpiece dreamland of manipulation "between the lines". An extremely interesting subject, that, nonetheless, has very little or nothing to do with the "mission" of the Exotica Mailing list. IS there a Disney list? MO* http://www.mcs.net/~werner/yester.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) List FAQ, version 1.1 Date: 05 Aug 1998 12:34:30 +0100 Is endless dicussion about the morality of, and experiences within thri= ft stores boring? Yes Is continual discussion of Disney equally tedious? Yes Would we all like to see the list return to the discussion of records? = Yes I just bought a couple of records (Werner Muller and Gordons War both discussed only a few days ago) from Mark - a dealer of rareities in Bri= xton (south London). Last night on my way home, I turned on GLR where I hear= d some obscure rare groove. When the DJ turned to his guest, Lo and behol= d it was Mark, anorak supreme and accumulator of over =A31,000,000 worth of records in his bedroom. I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised because his photocopied list which arrives on my front door every two weeks varies from =A315 to =A3= 300 for records and regularly features descriptions such as: 'Obscure Greek fun= k LP with tight grooves and a touch of jazz - outstanding track 'Good Man' -= =A3275. And I thought I knew a bit about vinyl..... Charlie = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) re exotica suggestions Date: 05 Aug 1998 04:47:23 PDT Nat wrote:- >Well I don't take my mambo seriously - whatever that means - but I do >prefer Cugat and Prado yes. I don't think they took it seriously >either. I don't really know what serious mambo is. I think all these >guys did "American-ized" commercial mambo records and didn't give a >hoot about authenticity. And neither do I. Without getting into Cuban politics (Please), Mambo is "American-ized" that is the real mambo, exiles music, more New York and Florida than Havana. The authenticity was embracing American tastes. >Seguing from "if I were a rich man" to "hava nagila" is just another >terribly clever juxtaposition of two tunes associated with Jews. I >heard a similarly clever segueway from every Bar Mitzvah band working >the circuit in the sixties. Clever medleys are for some reason, still >at the bottom of the list for me. Very good point. I agree with you, I was merely saying that Edmundo's inappropriateness is what I like (also some backing vocal arrangements) >>You may have lost your jazz purism but it seems you like your >>exotica with a puritan flavour! >Well okay, I know that's a flame but as a paid-up member of the >anti-Edmondo army (a division of Self-Righteous Arbiters of Taste), >I'm used to flames. I apologise, that was certainly not intended as a flame. >It's interesting to see someone use the words "exotica" and "puritan" >in the same sentence. CUT >If wanting the excitement is puritanical, well I guess I'll have to >give those puritans another look. >How about another word? Joy. I misconstrued your distaste for Edmundo, I thought it was over his commercialism etc. which would, given the nature of this list be, I think a mite strange. As I've said before it is the reclaiming of discarded junk culture that is, for me one of the central joys of exotica. Like in the Spanish film "Accion Mutante" where a gang of ugly rebels break up a society wedding party shouting "you're all lobotomised by beauty and coolness" we liberate the grievously unhip and appreciate old pop culture. In such a situation being authentic is not an issue, as Brian Eno said about soul, everybody's faking. And they are you know, it's called art and it can be good or bad. I wouldn't suggest Ros is better than Prado or Cugat, but he is worthy of a spin on the Technics. >Edmondo's records only have one groove on each side. OUch! all the best rob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Rod Mckuen & the Record Industry Date: 05 Aug 1998 07:28:18 -0700 (PDT) I just bumped into this in the letters section of Golmine magazine. " Hippies are Beatniks Your featured 5-Star Record in issue 464 (Goldmine, May 8, 1998) was Rod Mckuen Takes a San Francisco Hippie Trip. This Everest label featured in your article actually took Rod McKuen's Beatsville (1959) which is found on the Hi-fi label, and changed the album title and song titles in order to attract the 1967 hippie listeners. Songs on the original Beatsville record include Co-existence Bagel Shop Blues, Haik poems, and a Gallery of Assorted Beats. In other words San Francisco Hippie Trip is Beatsville." _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts Date: 05 Aug 1998 10:28:41 EDT You hate finding beaten up records...I understand, but one of the most pleasant surprises to me in collecting this genre is the amount of records in excellent condition, nearly untouched, unlike 6T's and 7T's rock and soul which inevitably is beaten un, especially in thrift shops...Jimmy/"Jimmy's Easy" on WMBR-FM, Cambridge # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) re: More on Thrifts Date: 05 Aug 1998 10:30:29 EDT I can't figure out why Emerson College, Boston didn't call one of the MASNY excellent used record stores in their immediate area to come down and buy the vinyl they threw out..Lack of communication from a Communications College apparently # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) recommendations, Bert Kaempfert, integrity Date: 05 Aug 1998 10:32:54 EDT Bert Kaempfert's songs really come alive when Wayne Newton sings them on the old Capitol recordings: Danke Schoen, Wiedersein (sp?), Remember When, others....... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) List FAQ, version 1.1 Date: 05 Aug 1998 09:09:56 -0600 >I just bought a couple of records (Werner Muller and Gordons War both >discussed only a few days ago) from Mark - a dealer of rareities in Brixton >(south London).=20 >I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised because his photocopied list >which arrives on my front door every two weeks varies from =A315 to =A3300 >And I thought I knew a bit about vinyl..... > Most dealers should know about what they sell. I know Mark too and I think he sells a few things a bit on the pricey side although his selection of stuff is rather tasty. Just because a record sells for a lot of money doesn't make it good. Although most good records that are hard to find generally can sell for a lot of money. Or you can find 'em at a thrift= store... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney Equation -Sucks Reply Date: 05 Aug 1998 00:22:58 -0700 At 10:12 AM 8/4/98 -0700, you wrote: > >>>>DISNEY SUCKS !!!!!! End of discussion. The reason I agree that Disney sucks is the way the pull their movies out of print reguarly. What's the reason why a video is released, only to stop releasing it 18 months later, then wait seven more years only to release it in the theatres, followed by another 18-month video release? I'll tell you this much - it has nothing to do with Disney Corp's love for kids. Walt would be ashamed. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Basta Audio Visuals" Subject: (exotica) Nathan van Cleave Date: 05 Aug 1998 09:32:45 +0200 Anyone knows where to find a picture or photo of Mr. Nathan van Cleave ? Really need this for a new album coming up. ASCAP doesn`t have it, nor do they give phonenumbers of relatives. I have searched on the Net, but no pictures of him. If anyone has a picture, please contact me at basta @ xs4all . nl Thanks Jeroen van der Schaaf Basta Audio Visuals www.basta.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Cook Subject: (exotica) Bert Kaempfert, since you asked ... Date: 05 Aug 1998 12:38:24 -0400 It should be noted too, that Kaempfert was at least partially responsible for penning the canonized -- if ultimately mediocre -- tunes "Danke Schoen" (as already mentioned), "Wonderland by Night," "Spanish Eyes," and "Strangers in the Night." BTW, ever notice how these four are really essentially the same song? Which, I think, points up why Kaempfert's stuff is oddly compelling to me (you were *dying* to hear what I had to say, weren't you .... no?). To me, Bert was such a skilled formulist (like Conniff & Alpert, who also share a similar ill-repute), that he went about creating a sound that's so distinctly his own that there's no mistaking a Kaempfert recording. And, it's a sound that's uniquely evocative of a certain mid-Sixites suburban experience. (That experience? Well, grocery shopping.) Of course, he had those quirky perky tunes that were used so often for "please stand by" stock on UHF channels (just like Alpert's stuff). I also seem to recall them being used as theme songs for cheapo 3pm cartoon shows I used to watch while sporting training pants & eating Graham crackers. (There's also an Xmas tune used ... unless I'm mis-remembering ... pretty often to sell Ronco crap on TV in the 70s. Same tune, I think, used in Christmas with the Schmenges on SCTV.) Now, the problem is (as has been pointed out here), that there's maybe a small compilations-worth of these quirky tunes, and the rest of his stuff is pretty shuffling and conventional. Distinctively Kaempfert, to be sure, but your mind really can't help but wander while listening to this stuff. Unless .... you're a bonehead like me & find even his duller tunes to be interesting now & again. There's a strange remoteness to this stuff that sometimes really sucks me in. Kinda like the music just plods along on its own without anyone really taking responsibility for it ... almost like the individual players are doing their own thing & it adds up to an arrangement only by accident (though, of course, it *is* meticulously arranged). The ka-chunk bass & drop-kick drum are so regular and monotonous they almost sound mechanical. Also, what I think of as the "stairwell" approach to music engineering ... there's always this weird echo going on that makes it sound like the recording took place in a fire tower in some high-rise. And, it's easy to not notice unless you're trying to find them, there's often a chorus of voices filling out the arrangement somewhere ... but you can't *really* be sure those are human voices ... In the end, though, even an oddball like me can only find this stuff compelling for short bursts. And then I wake up 'cause the record needs to be flipped. This sorta reveals one of the problems I have sometime with the whole exotica thing ... I wonder if anyone else battles this, too. Sometimes I find myself rationalizing myself into "liking" something. (Like, "Well, it has an organ & a piano & some vibes & plucky guitar. Playing "Night and Day." Therefore it's groovy. Howcomes it really sux?") With this record hunting obsession, so much of what we lug home ends up being disappointing, that it can be easy to lose sight of the sounds we're looking for. Until, that is, you put the needle onto the first track of a great new find, and MAN-OH-MAN HOOO-BOY YES!!, you're reminded of what you makes you loony for these sounds in the first place. I guess I need to remind myself to just play the damn records & tap my damn foot & don't try to think so much. Know-what-i'm-saying? Anyone? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) sorry...... Date: 05 Aug 1998 12:56:49 Pacific Daylight Time Bert Kaempfert did not write Wonderland By Night. It was written by the team Gunter/Newmann, who wrote the German and English lyrics as well. Darren! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) Would Taylor Deems this necessary? Date: 05 Aug 1998 12:54:42 -0400 >The reason I agree that Disney sucks is the way the pull their movies out >of print reguarly. They also pull the "We're only making x number of these and then they are gone!" hype. They did this with Fantasia and the deadline came and went and it was STILL readily available long afterwards. I don't mind that it was, however, tell the truth (wahwahwahwah Ooooo) Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Cook Subject: (exotica) sorry ... Date: 05 Aug 1998 13:12:32 -0400 >Bert Kaempfert did not write Wonderland By Night. It was written by the >team >Gunter/Newmann, who wrote the German and English lyrics as well. Oops! Mebbe I'm wrong about the others, too ... guess I'd been lulled once too often by the Bert version of "Wonderland" & assumed it was his. :) (Boy, I've thought that one to be true for so long ....) Never a fact-checker shall I be, --chris cook # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Antonio Carlos Jobim: Composer Date: 05 Aug 1998 19:23:34 +0200 "keir keightley" wrote: >_Antonio Carlos Jobim: Composer_ (Warner Archive Series). This >contains 2 full LPs made for Warner Bros. in 1965-66, plus some >tracks from an instrumental Jobim album _Love, Strings, and Jobim_. >This stuff is not as smooth as _The Composer Plays_, but over time >I've come to love the shaky roughness of Jobim's voice (and none of >this is on the Verve box set). Combines the original LP's "The wonderful world of Antonio Carlos Jobim" (1965, arranged by Nelson Riddle) and "A certain Mr. Jobim" (1967, arranged by Claus Ogerman), plus 2 tracks from "Love, strings and Jobim" (1966), plus 4 previously unreleased tracks, recorded during the "A certain Mr. Jobim" session. The legendary Brazilian composer performs his own songs, singing on 19 of the 28 tracks (the others being instrumental). Despite Jobim's pleasingly vulnerable voice, I think these are not really the best versions around of his songs, as Riddle's and Ogerman's honey strings smooth out that typical "tristesse" quality of the bossa nova, and the English lyrics don't have that exotic touch of the Portuguese. This is velvet bossa nova targeted to Sinatra fans. Tracks: "She's A Carioca", "Agua De Beber", "Surfboard", "Useless Landscape", "So' Tinha De Ser Com Voce", "A Felicidade", "Bonita", "Favela", "Valsa De Porto Das Caixas", "Samba Do Aviao", "Por Toda A Mimha Vida", "Dindi", "Hurry Up And Love Me", "Pardon My English", "Bonita", "Se Todos Fossem Iguais A Voce", "Off-Key", "Photograph", "Surfboard", "Outra Vez", "I Was Just One More For You", "Estrada Do Sol", "Don't Ever Go Away", "Zingaro", "Esperanca Perdida", "Fotographia", "Por Causa De Voce", "Desafinado". Johan quiet@village.uunet.be | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk) Subject: (exotica) Cal Tjader Sounds Out Burt Bacharach Date: 05 Aug 1998 09:57:43 -1000 This might be of interest to some... Last night I picked up the CD "Cal Tjader Sounds Out Burt Bacharach". It's on the DCC label and has just been issued on CD for the first time. A little sticker on the cover says "COOL JAZZ". Well, not really. More like semi-sedated lounge-pop. Instrumental, of course, the group is Cal on vibes with much organ, electric bass, guitar, backbeat drummer, and occasional appearances by strings, reeds, and brass. Recorded in 1968. There's a semi-"funky" version of "Say a Little Prayer", as well as a somehow mysterious rendition of "Message to Michael". Other tunes include "My Little Red Book", "What The World Needs Now" and "Walk On By".... all the hits, 9 in all. Most are taken at EZ tempos. I would hesitate to call any of it "swingin'" and hardly even "jazz". The drummer, in particular, does little else but unobtrusively beat time. This is pretty "cheezy", possibly thrown together very quickly, most songs fade out, and playing time is short (about 30 minutes, but cheap at around $10). But I love it, and it started growing on me almost immediately. I played it again right after the first listen, which is about as good a compliment as I can give. Remarkably, this is my first Cal Tjader album, and I have a feeling it's not representative of his work in general...perhaps others could elaborate. His playing is far from technically dazzling on this record, nor is anyone else's, which is sort of the appeal. Mr. Funk gives it a surprising score of 8 out of 10. *** *** *** Steve Funk (sfunk@pop.adn.com) Anchorage, AK USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Question List - Please re-post Date: 05 Aug 1998 14:01:31 EDT Can someone post the question list again so those interested in filling it out can do so? The list without someone completing it already would be more helpful. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores -Reply Date: 04 Aug 1998 16:06:52 -0400 <<>> Geez - I LOVE this list !!!!!!! ;-) - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) Gravelands Date: 05 Aug 1998 20:07:02 +0200 Anyone's heard this yet? Arjan GRAVELANDS by THE KING & THE QUESTIONAIRES (BRILLIANT CD OF AN ELVIS IMITATOR COVERING CLASSIC SONGS BY DEAD > > 1.Come As You Are > 2.Love Will Tear Use Apart > 3.Working Class Hero > 4.Whiskey In The Jar > 5.Blockbuster > 6.I Heard It Through The Grapevine > 7.No Woman No Cry > 8.All Or Nothing > 9.20th Century Boy > 10.Piece Of My Heart > 11.Dock Of The Bay > 12.Voodoo Chile > 13.Riders On The Storm / The End Apparently there will be German release out with some extra tracks like "Song of the Siren" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) The floor recognized the delegate from Dixie . . . . Date: 05 Aug 1998 14:13:17 EDT In a message dated 98-08-05 05:07:20 EDT, M.O. writes: << Exotica legislation. Constitutional law reading 1.1. Votes: Bavarian delegate: approved! >> Exotica legislation. Constitutional law reading 1.1. Votes: Southern Exotica Confederacy delegate: approved! IMPORTANT NOTE: Delegate requires the record to show that disregard of input or lack of recognition from the Southern Exotica Confederacy will result in the secession of said Confederacy from the list. And yes, Dixie is considered exotica music by many. Robert "E." Brooks P.S. Ask me about my great cousin Preston some day. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Cal Tjader Sounds Out Burt Bacharach Date: 05 Aug 1998 14:16:42 -0400 > Remarkably, this is my first Cal Tjader album, and I have a feeling it's > not representative of his work in general...perhaps others could elaborate. > His playing is far from technically dazzling on this record, nor is anyone > else's, which is sort of the appeal. Two current Tjader re-issue CDs that I think are mighty fine (both on Verve)... "Several Shades of Jade/Breeze From The East" - A two-on-one with Tjader working with large ensembles. "Shades" was done in collaboration with none other than Lalo Schifrin. "Breeze" in collaboration with Stan Applebaum. Both date from 1963. For me, "Shades" is a much stronger piece of work, with "Breeze" coming off a bit tinny in comparison, but opinions can vary (and I think they have here), so don't mind mine. According to the notes, Tjader was none too pleased with "Breeze" himself. "Soul Sauce" - Dates from 1964 and finds Tjader back in a small combo, probably in reaction to "Breeze". This is more hard-core Latin-jazz. Players include Lonnie Hewitt, Willie Bobo, Donald Byrd, Jimmy Heath, Alberto Valdes, Armando Peraza, Grady Tate. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: Re: (exotica) The floor recognized the delegate from Dixie . . . . Date: 05 Aug 1998 11:33:12 -0700 Say, RC.... Did you have a cousin by the name of Preston? Pray tell us about him. : > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) Another Cool Book Date: 05 Aug 1998 14:44:53 -0400 I had only looked at this briefly when I put it into the FAQ, but after finally spending some time with this book, this is the shit! Hawaiian Music and Musicians: An Illustrated History George S. Kanahele, ed. (1979, University Press of Hawaii) ISBN 0-8248-0578-X It's organized Encyclopedia-style, so it takes a bit of jumping around to get the big picture--but I have been searching for a book like this for YEARS. (Does anyone know if there's been anything published a bit more recently?) I've loved "Hawaiian" albums, both genuine and cheezoid, for a long time. This book is just packed with the kind of background I always wanted, to help sort out which is which--plus it has entries on all the better-known "Hawaiian" hit songs, about key instruments like the 'ukulele and steel guitar, and so on. One reason Hawaiian music is fascinating to me is that the whole question of "authenticity" is so totally muddled there--and according to this book it's even stranger than I ever knew. "Traditional" Hawaiian music turns out to be a total mongrel of Polynesian chant, Christian hymns, instruments brought to the islands by foreign cowboys and sailors. . . Meanwhile, Hawaii has been enthusiatically exporting its music and instuments for a hundred years, with the result that credible "hawaiian" msuic has been created in all corners of the globe--some of which returned home to become part of the standard repertoire. It's wacky. Basically, Hawaiian musicians have not been shy about adopting whatever innovations from other musics they liked the sound of, yet somehow still retaining a Hawaiian identity. Lets hear it for Hybrid Vigor! Aloha, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: Re: (exotica) The floor recognized the delegate from Dixie . . . . Date: 05 Aug 1998 12:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Has Elvis ever posted to this list? ---Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > > > << Exotica legislation. Constitutional law reading 1.1. Votes: Bavarian > delegate: approved! >> > > Exotica legislation. Constitutional law reading 1.1. Votes: Southern Exotica > Confederacy delegate: approved! > > IMPORTANT NOTE: Delegate requires the record to show that disregard of input > or lack of recognition from the Southern Exotica Confederacy will result in > the secession of said Confederacy from the list. And yes, Dixie is considered > exotica music by many. Robert "E." Brooks > P.S. Ask me about my great cousin Preston some day. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Diamond Subject: (exotica) Planet of the Apes CD Date: 05 Aug 1998 12:09:05 -0700 Attention: New CD Reissue just added: Original Soundtrack: Jerry Goldsmith; Planet of the Apes - $8 plus shipping Originally released in 1968 on Project 3 Total Sound Stereo Sharp jagged brassy musical figures within an AMAZING ORCHESTRA with Unbe-lieve-a-ble arrangements, serious spookiness with OMINOUS AMOUNTS of wild and weird Percussion with Reverb and Echo all throughout the entire score. EXTREMELY JUNGLE JAZZ-ESQUE. Tribal Voodoo Pounding!!! Extremely Dramatic and Incredible, all KILLER...from beginning to end, I shit you not A masterpiece soundtrack by the man that also brought us In Like Flint, Our Man Flint, Man from UNCLE, Sebastian, music for the TV version of The Twilight Zone et al... It is EXTREMELY EXOTIC for All Hours and Moods of the Day or Night. Really tremendous soundtrack with 1 title Previously unreleased* Titles; Main Title. The Revelation, The Clothes Snatchers, *The Hunt, New Identity, The Forbidden Zone, The Search, The Cave, A Bid For Freedom, A New Mate, No Escape. Haven't seen the vinyl FOR YEARS...This is the motherload for only 8 bucks. Christmas is closer than you think and I have a few copies soooooooooooo;) $8 plus shipping Thank you all once again Jack "Attilio Mineo Conducts Man in Space With Sounds" Now on CD! Http://www.jackdiamond.com/attilio.htm Http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-64169/ Publicity by Motormouth Media (Hollywood, CA) *Primary* Wholesale Distribution in the US: NAIL Distribution 1-888-Nail-Inc (Toll Free) http://www.bubblator@naildistribution.com/ OR Wholesale/Retail Sales: Jack Diamond Music Http://www.jackdiamond.com Fax/Phone (650) 325-2284 European Wholesale Distribution/Retail Sales Stefan Kery/Subliminal Sounds Stefan@subliminal.se Fax/Phone +46 8 694 86 66 web-site: http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-64169/ e-mail: stefan@subliminal.se Tune in The House of Games with Jack Diamond Sundays 10AM-1PM Http://www.KFJC.org KFJC-FM, 89.7 12345 El Monte Rd. Los Altos Hills, CA Since January 1993 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Disney Equation -Sucks Reply -Reply Date: 04 Aug 1998 15:57:07 -0400 >>> 08/04/98 12:10pm >>> In a message dated 98-08-04 11:19:10 EDT, Nat wrote: << DISNEY SUCKS !!!!!! =20 End of discussion. >> and like he would just throw one of those Tiki Room ablums in the shit can = if one came across his desk???>>> I already passed this album up for .50 so there!! And, there's a Nat on this list, so let's get the flaming to the right = person - I'm Nate. - Nate (not Nat) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Planet of the Apes CD Date: 05 Aug 1998 13:34:16 -0700 At 12:09 PM 8/5/98 -0700, Jack wrote: > >Attention: >New CD Reissue just added: >Original Soundtrack: >Jerry Goldsmith; Planet of the Apes - $8 plus shipping There have been a couple of budget-priced Planet of the Apes soundtracks around for a while, but there is a recent re-issue which is the only one I'd recommend, although I believe its NOT budget priced (prob around $15): Planet of the Apes, Varese Sarabande, VSD5848, 1997 This is the only CD reissue which has the ENTIRE score, I think. The others have only highlights. Also included is a 16 1/2 minute suite from "Escape to the Planet of the Apes." The liner notes are superb, and the smart remastering provides excellent sound quality. I completely agree with the fact that this soundtrack is REQUIRED listening (and owning). Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) mighty mellow & other treats Date: 05 Aug 1998 13:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Been listening to "the mighty mellow" on Partners in Crime (1997) from http://www.interactive.net/~tomc This has to be one of the smoothest mellowest funkiest psychedelic easy listening experiences in my whole collect of vinyl & plastic covered aluminum. I can't imagine anyoe not liking this on the list. Its a 70 minute must own escapade into very sophisticated sounds. Not quite as impressive but another must own treat is "erotica ITALIA" on BMG Eurodisc (Arista 3484) 1997 Its title is quite appropriate for describing the sound of the music. It also says "The 'Kama Sutra of Italian erotic movie music from the 1960's and 70's, compiled and presented by Patrick Whitaker and Martin Green, Th Sound Curators" ( Who we all know from the Sound Gallery and Sound Spectrum. ) Excuse me but I can't remember if this particular cd was already mentioned on the list. From France comes "ollano" by ollano on Rosebus records and Barclay 533-249-2 (1996) again form Tom at sales@othermusic.com I heard about this band on the Music to Watch Comets By compilation by the Gentle People. This cd contains great vocals by a pair of different female vocalists, one earthy and the other from heaven, her voice on "Lattitudes" from the Pink Panther is worth the price of the cd by itself. The songs are straight ahead lounge ballads French exotica with half of the songs containing very modern acid jazz influences. From http://www.dustygroove.com comes "idyllic" a 1997 idyllic records compilation with the Silent Poets, Spiritual Vibes, Natural Calaity, & Nobukazu Takemura. A variety of styles some Bossa influenced Japanese vocals, some easy sounds bording on Ambient and some ambient. It is way out there and I give it a 7 out of 10. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: Re: (exotica) Planet of the Apes CD Date: 05 Aug 1998 13:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Dave: Another good reason why Varese Sarabande is one of the premier labels out these days. Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck ---Dave Davidson wrote: > I'd recommend, although I believe its NOT budget priced (prob around $15): > Planet of the Apes, Varese Sarabande, VSD5848, 1997 > This is the only CD reissue which has the ENTIRE score, I think. The others have only highlights. Also included is a 16 1/2 minute suite from "Escape to the Planet of the Apes." The liner notes are superb, and the smart remastering provides excellent sound quality. I completely agree with the fact that this soundtrack is REQUIRED listening (and owning). > > Dave _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Diamond Subject: (exotica) Man In Space With Sounds VINYL Date: 05 Aug 1998 13:52:44 -0700 Hello all, I have a *few* copies of the Spanish Import LP Reissue of the "Attilio Mineo Conducts Man in Space With Sounds" Catalog # 66666 Excellent pressing, original front and back covers, Inside Full Color Sleeve Inna word...GOR-GEEEE-OUS. Inside and Out a real beauty $20 plus shipping, Ltd to 1,000 copies Remember, a few means a few Thanks again, Jack Hello all, I have a *few* copies of the Spanish Import LP Reissue of the "Attilio Mineo Conducts Man in Space With Sounds" Catalog # 66666 Excellent pressing, original front and back covers, Inside Full Color Sleeve Inna word...GOR-GEEEE-OUS. Inside and Out a real beauty $20 plus shipping, Ltd to 1,000 copies Remember, a few means a few Thanks again, Jack Jack "Attilio Mineo Conducts Man in Space With Sounds" Now on CD! Http://www.jackdiamond.com/attilio.htm Http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-64169/ Publicity by Motormouth Media (Hollywood, CA) *Primary* Wholesale Distribution in the US: NAIL Distribution 1-888-Nail-Inc (Toll Free) http://www.bubblator@naildistribution.com/ OR Wholesale/Retail Sales: Jack Diamond Music Http://www.jackdiamond.com Fax/Phone (650) 325-2284 European Wholesale Distribution/Retail Sales Stefan Kery/Subliminal Sounds Stefan@subliminal.se Fax/Phone +46 8 694 86 66 web-site: http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-64169/ e-mail: stefan@subliminal.se Tune in The House of Games with Jack Diamond Sundays 10AM-1PM Http://www.KFJC.org KFJC-FM, 89.7 12345 El Monte Rd. Los Altos Hills, CA Since January 1993 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney again! Date: 05 Aug 1998 23:54:23 +0000 Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > << After Walt's death things went awfully wrong... Walt would never ever have > allowed to serve food on paper plates with plastic forks in ... France! >> > > I don't know if I agree with this. Walt was a lot more shrewd that you think. ??? In my dictionary "shrewd" means "smart". So? That's what I think he was... MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lousmith@pipeline.com (Lou Smith) Subject: (exotica) Chapman's Lennon album goes on sale Date: 05 Aug 1998 23:04:41 GMT WASHINGTONVILLE, N.Y., Aug. 5 (UPI) -- A Washingtonville, N.Y., company is selling the record album John Lennon autographed for Mark David Chapman before he killed the Beatle. Moments in Time president Gary Zimet said today he got the piece of memorabilia from a man who claims he found it in the front gate flower planter outside Lennon's Manhattan apartment building, the Dakota. According to Zimet, the ``Double Fantasy'' album bears the singer's signature and Chapman's forensically enhanced fingerprints. He adds that prosecutors used the record cover and dust jacket as evidence in the killer's trial and when they returned it to the owner, sent a letter of gratitude. Moments in Time is asking for $1.8 million for the album, which comes with full documentation. Chapman fatally shot the legendary performer in front of the Dakota on the night of Dec. 8, 1980. A picture of Lennon signing Chapman's copy of the recordings appeared in newspapers and on television around the world. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Autographed LPs Date: 05 Aug 1998 18:07:46 -0500 WASHINGTONVILLE, N.Y., Aug. 5 (UPI) -- A Washingtonville, N.Y., company is selling the record album John Lennon autographed for Mark David Chapman before he killed the Beatle. Moments in Time president Gary Zimet said today he got the piece of memorabilia from a man who claims he found it in the front gate flower planter outside Lennon's Manhattan apartment building, the Dakota. According to Zimet, the ``Double Fantasy'' album bears the singer's signature and Chapman's forensically enhanced fingerprints. He adds that prosecutors used the record cover and dust jacket as evidence in the killer's trial and when they returned it to the owner, sent a letter of gratitude. Moments in Time is asking for $1.8 million for the album, which comes with full documentation. Chapman fatally shot the legendary performer in front of the Dakota on the night of Dec. 8, 1980. A picture of Lennon signing Chapman's copy of the recordings appeared in newspapers and on television around the world. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney again! Date: 05 Aug 1998 15:12:19 PDT Yes, but with complementary calculation, slyness. This Disney thing is growing tiresome though, isn't it? The thing is no more, nor should it ever be taken as anything more shimmering or nefarious than a bright little blister under the armpit of our lovely and too self-obsessed western culture. I do like your use of "Magick" in ref. to the Walt's place - as though after all the kiddies and their plump pink parents had split and the last woozy teen revived from his Goofy suit, the Master Therion sheds his Michael Eisner and plots the next act of sappy celluloid venifice. Oh, and Disney store says no go on Tiki Room Reissue. Fiends. > >??? In my dictionary "shrewd" means "smart". So? That's what I think he was... >MO* > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) That Insufferable Mr. Jenkins Date: 05 Aug 1998 18:23:59 -0500 FWD: <*> Meanwhile, Thinking Media's Don Westrich says they've created the coolest banner ever, bar none. The goal of their Java applet is to help Tanqueray's Mr. Jenkins get an olive into a Martini glass. A lever lets you control how hard Mr. Jenkins swings the golfclub. Since the olive gets picked up by birds or lands in water traps, it's a devilishly difficult game! But fear not, cause while you play the game on a "sitelet" you can see ads for Bloomberg, CMP, Hollywood Stock Exchange and Playboy. Check it out at the URL below and click on "Turf" (Golf Game). => http://www.tanqueray.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Man In Space With Sounds VINYL Date: 05 Aug 1998 18:34:49 -0500 At 01:52 PM 8/5/98 -0700, Jaaaack wrote: > >Hello all, > >I have a *few* copies of the Spanish Import LP Reissue of the >"Attilio Mineo Conducts Man in Space With Sounds" Catalog # 66666 OK, now I'm confused! Didn't we conclude that these Limited Edition Spanish import LPs (like Moon Gas) are pirate copies. Does this mean Jack is selling illegal copies of his own legit re-issue?!? What gives? -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Question List Date: 05 Aug 1998 18:43:17 -0500 At 02:01 PM 8/5/98 EDT, Robert wrote: >Can someone post the question list again so those interested in filling it out >can do so? The list without someone completing it already would be more >helpful. OK, here it is once again. To make it interesting, why not add at least one previously un-asked question? I've added a few new ones for this time around. -Lou > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? > 3. This list could help you more by... > 4. Other exotica/things you collect > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality > consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs? > Tell us more! > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? > 9. Shaken or stirred? > 10. I clean my LPs with ... > 11. My home page URL is: > 12. I have a Licence To ... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Planet of the Apes CD Date: 05 Aug 1998 18:44:52 EDT Wait a second here. Varese Sarbande recently re-issued this CD with more bonus tracks, better sound, and the incredible "Suite From Escape From The Planet of The Apes". Don't buy the old version for $8.00. Go out to a decent CD store and get the remastered and longer version. It sounds great! Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Fwd: Burt & Elvis info Date: 05 Aug 1998 19:05:32 EDT FYI, everybody... --Rod ------------- Spin On-Line reports some info regarding the upcoming Elvis/Burt Bacharach album. The tentative track listing is as follows: *In The Darkest Place *Toledo *I Still Have That Other Girl *This House Is Empty Now *Tears At The Birthday Party *Such Unlikely Lovers *My Thief *The Long Division *Painted From Memory *The Sweetest Punch *What's Her Name Today? Guest appearances have been mentioned from ex-Attraction Steve Nieve, drummer Jim Keltner, bassist Greg Cohen, and guitarist Dean Parks. Spin On-Line refers to Painted From Memory as a 12 track album, yet only 11 are listed. Release dates are September 29 for the US, September 28 for international release, and September 2 in Japan. The Japanese release is said to contain one bonus track. Billboard also reports that they will be releasing an album of jazz reworkings of Burt's material. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thom Heileson Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney Equation -Ducks Reply Date: 05 Aug 1998 14:48:07 -0700 > "Does anyone else get the creeps from that sinister rodent? Or do people > really still think of him as a jolly ambassador of all-American > entertainment? Is it possible some folks are at least a tiny bit disturbed > by the bland iconic presence masking a corporate empire that reams Third > World workers, banalizes American culture, and operates theme parks > constructed along the lines of totalitarian dream states? Or are we all too > besotted watching Disney ratchet up the Dow to notice the ominous shadow of > mouse ears darkening the land?" While these interpretations must seem familiar to any intelligent soul that ever encountered the Disney empire, the fascination of Disneyland remains. It is not despite but because of this ambiguity of the glossy surface on one hand and the law & orderdly, well... fascist, background of it on the other. You can actually SEE how society works when watching this masterpiece dreamland of manipulation "between the lines". Along these lines of discussion, I _heartily_ recommend finding a copy of "How To Read Donald Duck" - it's a 1971 Chilean Marxist deconstruction of DD comix. Pretty entertaining, and interesting. Much of it goes way too far, but there are some poignant points made. Finds capitalist symbolism in the plots, character relationships, and the fact that none of the ducks wear pants. (This was assigned reading for an MFA seminar of mine...) Thom (please direct replies to heileson@u.washington.edu) -- _ _ _ Thom Heileson //)) //^~ heileson@u.washington.edu ((// // http://weber.u.washington.edu/~heileson/index.html Center for Advanced Research Technology in the Arts and Humanities [CARTAH] 206.543.4218 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Whither Vik? Date: 05 Aug 1998 19:57:21 -0400 Two things that I noted in tonight's web crawl... 1) The RIAA is succeeding in getting a new law passed to require net broadcasters to pay an additional fee to the RIAA (an organization of the major record companies) -- this is in addition to the existing payments to ASCAP & BMI (totally separate organizations, as explained recently by Br. Cleve). And no, traditional radio has never had to pay any such fee (and will still not have to). Story at: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,24940,00.html 2) Radio Vik is suddenly "off the air"! http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/radio/radiovik.html Are these items connected? If you haven't been following it, the "majors" have been getting very cranky lately regarding internet audio. With the possibility of new technology obsoleting their lucrative role as middle-men between the artists and the listeners, I think we may see things get very nasty. King Kini -- watch your back! m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Saving Jessica Date: 05 Aug 1998 21:05:57 -0500 At 08:40 AM 8/4/98 -0700, Chuck wrote: > >First Irwin left, then Jack and now the Vinyl Collecting Queen of the >Exotica Scene, who is next? > >Jessica you are in our exotica prayers, I hope all is well. Didn't she have an .edu e-mail account? Perhaps she's on a roadtrip during summer break. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: (exotica) Flint CD Date: 05 Aug 1998 21:21:00 -0400 Someone mentioned a few weeks ago that the "Our Man Flint/In Like Flint" CD had different mixes than those found on the original LP's. I finally got to hear this CD the other day and discovered that it is not the original LP's at all, but the original soundtrack cues from the actual film. Anyone who has the albums and has seen the films knows that both theme songs are slightly different in the films than on the records (longer; different into on "Our Man...."). The giveaway in the liner notes is the line "mastered from the original 35mm recordings". Soundtrack albums were recorded at different sessions than the film tracks, and had oftentimes had different arrangements, shorter cues stretched out to make them more like a record track, etc. The most different track is "Ladies, Please Remove Your Hats"; it does not have the same intro as the version on the "In Like....." album, which was sampled by Dimitri and The Gentle People. Overall, the sound quality is pretty amazing. If you own the LP's, the CD is still highly recommended. And vice versa. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) mighty mellow & other treats Date: 05 Aug 1998 20:28:37 -0400 At 1:33 PM -0700 8/5/98, chuck wrote: >>From France comes "ollano" by ollano on Rosebus records and Barclay >533-249-2 (1996) .... The songs are straight ahead lounge ballads French >exotica >with half of the songs containing very modern acid jazz influences. For the U.S. members of the list - this album is due to be released as a domestic issue sometime this fall. Sorry, I don't remember what label. (Ashley? can you shed some light on this?) I picked up the latest in the Easy Tempo series, volume 7, which is titled "Bikini Beat". It's a fine collection of swinging, psychedelic Italian film music, some of which appears on other (full soundtrack) releases on the same label, such as "Sweden: Heaven & Hell", "Camille 2000", etc. But the exciting news on the back cover is that they will soon be issuing the granddaddy of 'em all, Piero Piccioni's score to "La Decima Vittima", AKA "The 10th Victim", with bonus material not found on the very rare, incredibly lo-fi OST (released on Mainstream in the U.S. in '65). Judging from the 1 track on "Bikini Beat", the sound quality will be much better than heard on that 33 year old album (or the bootleg of it that appeared a few years ago). What a year from the Italians. The comps, the soundtracks, the Danger: Diabolik theme, and now this. To the Easy Tempo, Irma la Douce and Partners In Crime record labels - Grazie!! br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Whither Vik? Date: 05 Aug 1998 21:32:47 -0400 At 7:57 PM -0400 8/5/98, m.ace wrote: >1) The RIAA is succeeding in getting a new law passed to require net >broadcasters to pay an additional fee to the RIAA >2) Radio Vik is suddenly "off the air"! >Are these items connected? I'm sure Vik is aware of these legal issues, as by day he is a webmaster for a record company. But in a related note, he told me last week that he has shut down Vik's Lounge, but will be keeping it "frozen in time", like the Space Age Bachelor Pad site. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Bert Kaempfert, since you asked ... Date: 05 Aug 1998 21:34:23 -0400 At 12:38 PM 05/08/98 -0400, Chris Cook wrote: >There's a strange remoteness to this stuff that sometimes really sucks me >in. Kinda like the music just plods along on its own without anyone really >taking responsibility for it .. The ka-chunk bass & >drop-kick drum are so regular and monotonous they almost sound mechanical. > Sometimes I find myself rationalizing myself into "liking" something. What I've found in the three years or so that I've been listening constantly to ALL THIS STUFF we talk about - and Ross sort of touched on this in his FAQ - is that I can listen to almost anything and maybe even like almost anything. Though I haven't stopped loving jazz, blues, soul, country and rock, I'd have to admit that just by virtue of the number of records passing through my apartment, the number of records I have to "check out", I've ended up listening to "all this stuff" three times more than all the stuff put together. At this very moment, I'm listening to Roger Williams doing "Tiny Bubbles". A friend of mine had about 30 Roger Williams records and when I scoffed, he said that he could make a pretty hot half a tape from those 30 records. And I actually understood the logic there. Then he played me a version of "Frenesi" that kinda blew me away. So today at the Goodwill I bought a Roger Williams record I'd passed up a thousand times and so far I've heard pretty good versions of "I'm a believer" and "Music to watch girls by" and a very good version of "Sunrise, Sunset". But the point is, I also blithely sat by as "Tiny Bubbles" was playing. And that's what I'll probably do all night tonight. No Coltrane, no Blind Willie Johnson, no Yo La Tengo, no Al Green, no Louvin Brothers. Instead it'll be Roger Williams, Sandler and Young, The Great Strings (who?), Peter Nero, "the accordion stylings of... Shelly Taylor", "organ fantasies in hi-fi" by Shay Torrent and Ralph Bell and saving the best for last, "the Happy Hammond goes Pop". Maybe between all those records, I'll squeeze out 20 minutes on various tapes. Maybe one or two of those records will go on the "official record shelves" and the rest will be hidden in dark corners for friends with worse taste than me. But that's what I'll be listening to tonight. A lot of crap... separated by moments where I think "oh this is not bad". Or "I might use this on a tape someday". So yeah Bert Kaempfert mostly just "plods along". And if you ask me "Do you like the music of Bert Kaempfert", my answer will likely be "Hell no. He's boring." But that won't stop me from listening to him or even buying his records, especially if it's a choice between that and coming home empty handed, in which case I'd actually be forced to look through my records and find something I used to love. I think it's gotten to the point where my heart can only withstand genuinely moving music about once a month. And in preparation for that one moment of potential bliss, I have to spend the rest of the month packing my heart in cotton balls... like Bert Kaempfert. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elisabeth Vincentelli Subject: Re: (exotica) mighty mellow & other treats Date: 05 Aug 1998 21:51:53 -0400 >For the U.S. members of the list - this album is due to be released as a >domestic issue sometime this fall. Sorry, I don't remember what label. I think Ollano's CD is out in the US on Shadow Records, in a nice cardboard-type sleeve. "Latitude" is my favorite song on it, arranged by strings master Bertrand Burgalat and with vocals by LNA, Lio's sister (minute details for French pop fans out there). And speaking of Mr. Burgalat, the brilliant album he produced for April March and which came out only in Japan will be released by NickelBag in the US in the fall. Elisabeth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Cal Tjader Sounds Out Burt Bacharach Date: 05 Aug 1998 21:54:07 -0400 At 09:57 AM 05/08/98 -1000, Stephen Funk wrote: >Remarkably, this is my first Cal Tjader album, and I have a feeling it's >not representative of his work in general...perhaps others could elaborate. >His playing is far from technically dazzling on this record, nor is anyone >else's, which is sort of the appeal. I don't know about his playing but I love Cal Tjader. Anything by him... even though I have to admit that the "West Side Story" LP I bought recently was kind of mediocre. I got turned (back) onto him by the only one of those cheezily packaged Verve "Jazz Masters" CD's I've ever allowed myself to buy. "Cuchi Frito" on that collection is just amazing. I also have a reissued LP of "Latin Kick" which is pretty cool and but surprisingly a little more mellow than I expect Cal to be. It's not all mellow but some of the tunes sound like very good Martin Denny. The coolest reissued thing I've bought - and which was discussed on this list not long ago - is the 2-in-1 reissue of "Several Shades of Jade" and "Breeze from the East". "Several Shades", is truly great I think. The liner notes for the reissue claim that "Breeze" was pretty much a dog and that it's only included in the package so as to allow "Shades" to shine even more by comparison. "Breeze" is certainly not the record "Shades" is but I kind of like it for its cheeziness. Cal Tjader is an example for me of an artist I once completely dismissed who was totally elevated for me by my interest in exotica, lounge etc. For me he's now like the ULTIMATE lounge/exotica artist. The cream of the genre. It's amazing how much you can love something if you can just give up all notions of taste. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List Date: 05 Aug 1998 22:30:55 -0400 At 06:43 PM 05/08/98 -0500, Lou Smith wrote: >> 1. Are you a musician? Explain... No. My brother is but he wouldn't listen to these records if I paid him. >> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Toss up between Lenny Dee doing "Taste of Honey" and Al Caiola's "Sounds for Spies and Private Eyes", particularly the tunes "Man of Mystery" and "Bronze Doll". And then there was "Persuasive" and "Provocative Percussion". >> 3. This list could help you more by... Everybody on the list accepting ALL my opinions... and sending me one of their favorite records whenever they particularly agree. >> 4. Other exotica/things you collect Nothing. Unless you differentiate between records and record jackets. I occasionally buy chachkes especially but except for their total uselessness, there's no "theme" that ties them together. I do however own one pretty unique piece of tiki paraphenalia and someday I plan to send it to someone on this list if in return he will agree not to post anything about Thor Heyerdahl for a whole month. >>> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Everything except The Moody Blues and The Three Tenors. And of course the she-beast Celine Dion. >> 6. What are you just dying to tell us? I think I've told you almost everything. Except my real name. And eventually, if enough of you send me records or tapes, I'll be forced to tell it to the rest of you. Either that or get fake I.D. with "Nat Kone" on it. But even when you all know it, I still want you to call me Nat. >> 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality >> consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs? >> Tell us more! Someday you will all hear my opinions about this in a more complete manner. (I probably should have included that under "things I'm dying to tell you".) But for now, all I can say is that I don't own a single CD which means as much to me as any piece of vinyl. I know that not all CD's are as replaceable as they seem but that is the way I feel about them. Put it this way... I would never keep a CD unless I genuinely loved the music on it. I would never keep a CD for its sentimental or romantic value. Or even for its "cool quotient". Let me check the shelves for a second to see if I can find an exception. Okay, maybe that Russ Meyer CD thing qualifies as an object rather than something I keep for the music but that's the only exception I could see. I wouldn't buy a spoken word CD. I wouldn't buy a Little Marcy CD. I wouldn't buy a CD called "The Sound of Streetcars" with Toronto streetcars, circa the early sixties and liner notes meticulously mapping the routes the streetcars took as they were recorded. >>> 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or >> other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Uh.. no, no and I'm not generally proud of clothes. >> 9. Shaken or stirred? At my age and size, stirred would probably be safer. I've only had a martini once and I didn't like it. >> 10. I clean my LPs with ... When I clean them, which is seldom, my secret weapon is Ultra Palmolive for Sensitive Skin. And I use a paper towel and TAP WATER. And I allow it to dry in the drain board rather than pat it down with diapers. But my friend has one of those vaccuum machines so occasionally he treats me to a spin on the machine. >> 11. My home page URL is: I don't have one but I will within the year I think. >> 12. I have a Licence To ... Oh man. Make your own jokes here. "Have mixed emotions about everything". Like I do right now about sending this... Damn, I thought I was going to let this thread pass me by... Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Who'se calling who tedious? Date: 05 Aug 1998 23:11:16 EST Charles Moseley wrote: > Is endless dicussion about the morality of, and experiences within > thrift stores boring? Yes > Is continual discussion of Disney equally tedious? Yes > Would we all like to see the list return to the discussion of records? = > Yes There's a hell of a lot more to Exotica (as there is to any musical genre) than simply the music... but yes, the discussion of records is and has always been the focus of this list, at least since I've been subscribed. The only thing that's tedious here is having to read these sorts of shallow comments!!! Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Another Cool Book Date: 05 Aug 1998 23:37:36 EDT Of course, the process by which "pure" Hawaiian music came to be is the same process by which "pure" Bluegrass (incredible mongrel mixture of string band, hot rhythm, Appalachian folk song, blues etc.) or most any other genre came to fruition. Nothing pure about it - long live musical bastardy! --David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores Date: 05 Aug 1998 23:41:31 EDT If you think garage sales are creepy, wait until you go hardcore and start checking for Estate Sales in the paper... (great way to snag goodies, though)... --David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jordana Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List Date: 05 Aug 1998 22:58:10 -0400 Lou Smith wrote: > > 9. Shaken or stirred? Um, chocolate? Actually, I've never tasted a chocolate one, but I think martinis are kind of gross. I like girly drinks. > > 10. I clean my LPs with ... a damp paper towel for the cover, if it's really dingy. I'm not in the habit of cleaning my vinyl, though I know it's naughty of me. > > 11. My home page URL is: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157 > > 12. I have a Licence To ... Be Indecisive. > >13. The first record I ever bought was... Miss Piggy's Arobique Workout Album (and I still have it). Jordana eero67@geocities.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Rod Mckuen & the Record Industry Date: 05 Aug 1998 23:57:45 EDT I will note that Rod's "Hippie Trip" is a bowdlerized version of "Beatsville" with some of the more risque lines in "Krakow's Party" (aka "RSVP") removed. My buddy Kim Cooper did a whole article on this in her zine Scram. (my next article therein will be on the Archies if anybody has a taste for bubblegum). --David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Bigelow Subject: (exotica) An Exotica Moment in the Middle of Nowhere Date: 05 Aug 1998 22:37:29 Driving back from Seattle last week, we stopped for lunch in Fort Stockton, Texas, which at 250 miles from El Paso and 300 miles from San Antonio is qualifies as the middle of nowhere. Generic motel restaurant. As we're sitting there, I realized the background music was a regular exotica/easy listening greatest hits fest: "Wonderland at Night" by Bert Kaempfert "Ebb Tide" by Frank Chacksfield "Patricia" by Lenny Dee "Poor People of Paris" by Les Baxter "Quiet Village" by Martin Denny "Delicado" by Percy Faith "Holiday for Strings" by David Rose "Shangri-La" by Jackie Gleason "Miserlou" by Roger Williams or someone like him "Lara's Theme" by Ray Conniff and as I was paying and asking the cashier whether this was Muzak or tape ("Ah dunno"), "The Third Man Theme" by Anton Karas Almost made the mediocre food and service worth it. But wait--there's more (as Count von Count would say): We stopped to gas up before leaving, and I noticed that the little quarter kids' carousel at the truck stop was playing a nickolodeon version of "Lara's Theme." DO NOT take this as a suggestion to visit Fort Stockton, though. Brad spaceagepop@earthlink.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrifting: Pro or Con Date: 06 Aug 1998 01:25:17 EDT In a message dated 98-08-04 00:31:29 EDT, itsvern@ibm.net writes: << I do see record dealers in the thrifts....they come in, zero on the records, and then they usually leave. With me, I'm also usually going to the book section, the painting section, the knick-knack section, the toy section, etc, etc... I think someone like me will tend to have a more favorable view of thrifts and what they can provide versus the people who are only looking for one item. >> You can bet there's dealers who peddle retro stuff at swap meets - they are probably scouring thrifts every week (as well as attending auctions). The thrift stores know it, but how are they going to know a dealer from just an average bargain hunter? I imagine they figure out who some of the dealers are because they are the ones coming in on a regular basis or asking alot of questions, like "When does your shipments come in?" How many of the thrifts then figure out what those dealers are after and attempt to price gouge them is a good question. Just a few thoughts. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts Date: 06 Aug 1998 01:25:23 EDT In a message dated 98-08-04 01:28:14 EDT, bcleve@pop.tiac.net writes: << p.s. on a slightly related note, I just heard that Emerson College (Boston, MA) today threw their entire vinyl record collection (around 40 years worth of records) into a dumpster, as part of their effort to 'modernize' their radio station [WERS-FM, the studio of which is being rebuilt]. #!^$@*&!!!!!!!!!! >> A total crime - at the very least they could have donated it to a library or a small deserving campus. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores Date: 06 Aug 1998 01:25:24 EDT In a message dated 98-08-04 02:57:52 EDT, gondola@deltanet.com writes: << Anyway, as enticing as this sounds to me, I can NOT get myself to walk up to some stranger's lawn/garage and start pawing through the accumulated debris of his life. Really gives me the heebie-jeebies. And then, if you don't buy anything, it's like you're telling him that his life was of no worth. ;) >> Good luck Eb! You know what it is like to get anything good at a garage sale? The dealers line up on the front lawns at 5AM - so by the time you get there, the good stuff is gone - unless you want to compete with the dealers - better set your alarm clock. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift store conspiracy Date: 06 Aug 1998 01:25:21 EDT In a message dated 98-08-04 01:24:17 EDT, bcleve@pop.tiac.net writes: << In most large cities here, the thrifts are hit every day by dealers - antique dealers, record and book people, specialists in furniture and glass, etc. A friend has an antique barn up in New Hamshire, and he has the delivery times/days for every Salvation Army, etc in the area. He hits them all and buys up stuff to sell on the weekends. He sees all the same faces every morning, all of them dealers vying for and fighting over picking up the new stuff as it makes it way onto the sales floor. You should see the records he finds (and has found over the years). >> Well that sort of throws the wrench into the thrifting in L.A. concept that everybody here on the list wants to sell me. "I've got a bridge in Brooklyn....." This is a big city with huge swap meets every weekend. I would have little hope then that dealers aren't scouring the local thrifts and cleaning them out. I'll stick to my record swapmeet and pay the prices! - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores Date: 06 Aug 1998 01:25:45 EDT In a message dated 98-08-04 12:15:43 EDT, bruno@yhammer.com writes: << A friend of mine who does it more seriously - and hits the outlying areas - picked up 450 records in the first few weeks of this season and he won't buy just anything. >> 450 records?? And I' assume this is adding to an already established collection! I am now getting grief from Mike about the swap meet records: "What? More records? Where are you going to put them?" Then he made me promise that I wouldn't go back for 6 months and this is after you guys gave me all those Bert Kaempfert and Edmundo Ros recommendations! Where do you guys put all your records anyway? I've only got one old Licorice Pizza crate and its full of the old punk albums. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Saving Jessica Date: 06 Aug 1998 01:25:50 EDT In a message dated 98-08-05 21:36:30 EDT, lousmith@pipeline.com writes: << >First Irwin left, then Jack and now the Vinyl Collecting Queen of the >Exotica Scene, who is next? >> Geez, she's been gone a long time! - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Suspicious motives.... Date: 06 Aug 1998 01:25:46 EDT In a message dated 98-08-05 07:50:17 EDT, rmckenna@hotmail.com writes: << As I've said before it is the reclaiming of discarded junk culture that is, for me one of the central joys of exotica. >> Excuse me, are you saying that your primary motivation for collecting "lounge" music is that you are recycling junk culture? I would think the primary motive is you like the music and THEN maybe you think you've done a good deed by reclaiming/recylcing the old vinyl. I welcome response from others on this question. - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) one of the signs of the Apocalypse Date: 06 Aug 1998 01:56:46 -0400 Earlier tonight I posted on this list something to the effect that I would be spending the evening listening to a bunch of questionable records I bought at the Goodwill on my way home today. A bunch of nothing special stuff that I bought because I wanted to hear something "new" and I didn't want to actually look at my record shelf and have to decide what I actually WANTED to hear. I listed some of the records I bought but I didn't list ALL of them. I was ashamed of one of them. I've seen it a thousand times before in the Goodwill store. I've passed it up a thousand times before. But tonight I guess I was desperate enough to look at it and think to myself "Maybe Music Box Dancer ISN'T typical of the rest of the record". That's right. I bought "The Poet and I" by none other than my homeboy FRANK MILLS. And I just listened to it and... I didn't mind it. Even had a couple of cuts I might put on a tape eventually. I'm pretty sure I could put the song "You don't love no more" on a tape for some of you - like someone in Ottawa who shall remain nameless - and it would just slide right down with the rest of the pap. Yes I bought a Frank Mills record. And not just any Frank Mills record. The record with "Music Box Dancer" on it. And I listened to the record and I didn't run and take it off when that horrid song came on. That's it. It's over. Phone your loved ones, pack up your records, the world is ending. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paul m." Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores Date: 05 Aug 1998 23:08:27 -0800 >Where do you guys put all your records anyway? I've only got one old Licorice >Pizza crate and its full of the old punk albums. ====== don't i wish i could buy more of those! i have the majority of mine in the Licorice Pizza crates, but am now about 15 short of what's needed. scored the cool bin card 'genre headers' from the LP bins at L'Pizza too (ala "Disco Hits", Rock, etc). sometimes i think if Licorice Pizza didnt fold, i'd still be working there. what a astoundingly cool record store chain. anyone know where to find old orange crates cheaply these days? ferrante & teicher would love to be 'off the floor' out the my kats reach! paul moshay/mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833, los angeles, calif. 90078 new reply to: mighty65@pacbell.net soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores Date: 06 Aug 1998 04:18:41 -0600 >Where do you guys put all your records anyway? I've only got one old Licorice >Pizza crate and its full of the old punk albums. Shelves, shelves and more shelves. I'm running out of room for shelves. I've had to put my bed on stilts so I can buy...more shelves... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List Date: 06 Aug 1998 13:15:31 +0000 > I do however own one pretty unique piece of tiki paraphenalia and someday I > plan to send it to someone on this list if in return he will agree not to > post anything about Thor Heyerdahl for a whole month. > Here's my adress: Moritz Reichelt Thierschstrasse 43 D 80538 Munchen Germany MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) one of the signs of the Apocalypse Date: 06 Aug 1998 13:16:27 +0000 > Yes I bought a Frank Mills record. And not just any Frank Mills record. > The record with "Music Box Dancer" on it. And I listened to the record and > I didn't run and take it off when that horrid song came on. > > That's it. It's over. > > Phone your loved ones, pack up your records, the world is ending. > > Nat > First send me the tiki! BTW Let's open a new subject! "The most embarrassing song I once loved" I start with "Joyride" by Roxette. See! And I still live. MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney Equation -Ducks Reply Date: 06 Aug 1998 04:54:13 PDT This is Ariel Dorfman, and good tongue-in-cheek fun. I think Picador publishes his stuff. >Along these lines of discussion, I _heartily_ recommend finding a copy >of "How To Read Donald Duck" - it's a 1971 Chilean Marxist >deconstruction of DD comix. Pretty entertaining, and interesting. Much >of it goes way too far, but there are some poignant points made. Finds >capitalist symbolism in the plots, character relationships, and the fact >that none of the ducks wear pants. (This was assigned reading for an MFA >seminar of mine...) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) Re: D.E.N.: eXotica Releases Overview Update (18 Jul 98) Date: 06 Aug 1998 13:57:54 +0000 Johan listed this new release: > * Various Artists: "Formation 60" > CD/LP, JazzanovaCompostRec JCR003, Germany, 1998 Does Johan or our german friends or anyone in the list know more about this? I appreciate your help. J. also listed this "interesting find": > * Booker T. & The MGs: "Play The Hip Hits " > CD, Ace, USA?, 199? It's on Stax, actually: CDSXD 065 - it came out 2-3 years ago. Does anybody knows if the scheduled cd boxed set of Booker T. & the M.G.'s is already out, and how many cd's are in it? I was happy to read in the list from Fluid Floyd/Don Tiki that Booker T. did an excellent show in Hawaii some time go. (Hey Don, had your cd, and I just love it!) What the world needs now is more groovy Hammond B-3 organ sound. Alohaderci Gionni Paludi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List Date: 06 Aug 1998 05:23:00 PDT Well, I never hesitate to procrastinate, so: > >> 1. Are you a musician? Explain... No. >> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Martin Denny: Primativa >> 3. This list could help you more by... Forever continuing to describe at length and lovingly curious finds or objects of desire that otherwise I might never know exist... and to err into curious conversation, not always record related. >> 4. Other exotica/things you collect Tiki mugs, Hawaiian shirts, beer cans (just kidding. remember the 70's?). >> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Iggy and the Stooges, The Seeds, 50's rockabilly, US & Australian instrumental "surf" music, Michael Nyman, on and on. >> 6. What are you just dying to tell us? My real name. Horse. >> 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality >> consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs? .... >> Tell us more! > >> 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or >> other lounge-wear of which you are proud? No, alas, fezless. >> 9. Shaken or stirred? Yes, please. >> 10. I clean my LPs with ... a quica! >> 11. My home page URL is: http://www.toolazytobother.com >> 12. I have a Licence To ... swiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing. Current favorite 3 lps in Exotica Collection: The Guglielmi thing, Dick Hyman: Moog, Ken Nordine: Word Jazz Latest cd purchases that you are most pleased with: Man In Space With Sounds(!) The Moog Cookbook Now to work ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Question List Date: 06 Aug 1998 09:02:49 -0400 > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... I beat drums, but not much any more. > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? None of the above. I got my first kick off listening to John Zorn's Naked City run through Barry, Morricone, Mancini etc. Then I thought, that's way cool, and started picking up stuff like that on Vinyl. Soon, I was incorporating these and any other oddities I could find into my radio show (WRUW Cleveland, a music-lover's paradise with over 80,000 title). That was as far as I got. Then I aaccidently stumbled over this list in the list of lists on Xmission.com (where the Zorn list also lies) and bam, I was hooked. > 3. This list could help you more by... I don't think it could help me more. It's a fantastic list. > 4. Other exotica/things you collect Nuthin. Well... no, nuthin. I got four Kiss action figures on my desk here at work. I like toys. That's about it. > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like I still partake in good rock, classic rock, funk, 80s (from my childhood), heavy rock verging on noise, like Melvins, Helmet, Zeni Geva, etc. Yeah, I'll go from Esquivel to the Melvins to Lenny Dee to John Zorn. I'm a moody guy. > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? Your zipper's down. > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality > consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs? > Tell us more! eh, CDs. Mostly because my turntable is currently banished with the rest of my stereo and computer up in my office, so I need CDs to take to work. That's for convenience. As far as delivery, I like the nostalgia feel of LPs and definitely the big 12" cover. But I also like holding little CDs in my hands, and I think my racks of discs look cooler on the wall than my racks of LPs, cuz you can see all the spines. Also, these days, I'm very hip on MP3. > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? No. I'm only in it for the music. > 9. Shaken or stirred? Milk. Shakes, or Nestle Quik, stirred. > 10. I clean my LPs with ... Nothin' yet, although I really want to before I cut 'em to CD (convenience, I said, remember?). I was planning to use distilled water and some sort of alcohol, but I couldn't remember the proper combination. I got plenty of diapers though, with my baby still padded. > 11. My home page URL is: out there and has nothing to do with anything Exotic. > 12. I have a Licence To ... Smack people who say they like "lots of music" but have no idea what they're talking about. It reminds me of the Blues Brothers, "We got BOTH kinds of music here! Country AND Western!" > 13. The first album I ever bought was: Well, probably the first album I ever got my parents to buy for me was a Bill Cosby album, but the first I ever bought myself was, I think, the first Men at Work album, and the Styx album with Mr. Roboto. And though my children find my music "weird" at least they don't like country and they do like to boogie to James Brown. Even the baby. That's not bad, hey? Peter === Peter Risser risser@goodnews.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Cleaning, again Date: 06 Aug 1998 09:04:13 -0400 Sorry to rehash this, but I lost the post that had the answer. I'm really leaning towards the alcohol and distilled water, but I can only remember that it's 2 parts water to 1 part alcohol. Is this correct? Any particular type of alcohol? And what's the best type of rag to use? A sponge? A rag? Steel wool? (Some need it!) Someone re-elucidate me please! Thanks, Peter === Peter Risser risser@goodnews.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) Raymond Lefevre Date: 06 Aug 1998 09:45:19 Pacific Daylight Time The most embarrasing song I once loved? Too many to list. But My Woman My Woman My Wife by Dean Martin would sure be on this list.Andy Williams' version of You Are My Sunshine would be right behind it. By the way......I was at a garage sale this past weekend and bought a big stack of about 50 or so 45's for 3 bucks. One of them is called "Ame Caline (Soul Coaxing)" and on the other side is "Pense A L'ete"....by someone called Raymond Lefevre. I really like the first song, but 've never heard of it or the artist. Does anybody here know anything about it? I know that some of you have those books that list the records and how they did on the Billboard popularity charts. Any info? Darren! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) FAQ temporarily on hold Date: 06 Aug 1998 10:11:45 -0400 Hey all-- Thanks for all the helpful feedback and nice comments about the FAQ--but just I wanted to say that if you've emailed lately I might be a little erratic about answering: This morning we woke up before dawn to discover 5" of rain had fallen, and water levels in the basement were quickly rising past ankle level. Thanks to quick action that valuable old Osborne One was saved--but it's going to be a rough couple of days here. . . Soggily, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Hipwell Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List Date: 06 Aug 1998 15:15:44 +0100 > From: Lou Smith > At 02:01 PM 8/5/98 EDT, Robert wrote: Oh, go on, I've never done this. > > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Yes, I have played the electric bass for the past 10 years. And a smidgeon of guitar. And I picked up some castanets and maracas from a charity shop, but just use them as decorations. Oh, and this tiny little celesta thing, I think that's what it's called, keyboard --> hammer --> resonating metal bar, that looks home made and is about as big as a reasonably large handbag, although the highest note was missing and it was maladjusted so it was really what you might call a honky-tonk celeste, but an unfortunate accident caused three of the keys to shatter so what I really need to do is find a shop that sells plastic keys and figure out how to replace them or do some jury-rigging but I haven't had time so far. I used to play around with that as well. But this is all fairly theoretical, because usually when other musicians hear what I'm playing they run away. > > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? "Swinging Safari" by Bert Kaempfert. S'true. > > 3. This list could help you more by... ...it's ever-increasing diversity. That's good. Since subscribing, I know plenty about artists such as Esquivel and Denny, but there are other, obscurer areas waiting to be illuminated. How many albums did Andre Brasseur make, and does anything else rival "Mad Train" from "Tasty"? Which Windmill records were orchestrated by Syd Dale, and are they as groovy as "The Chaplin Collection"? Is T. W. Ardy always up to the level of "Hammond Gold" and why does he look so scary? Did "Diabolic Man" record anything other than "Diabolic Man"? Which Franck Pourcel tracks feature sitar? Did BBC Records put out some great albums, or what? Was Jack Emblow insane? HAVE YOU HEARD KLAUS WUNDERLICH'S VERSION OF CARAVAN??? Why do recent compilation albums have groovily-designed covers but never any liner notes telling you about the artists and music? Essential questions like that need answers. And anecdotes. I want to hear that Geoff Love was an alcoholic kleptomaniac with three nipples, and that if you play the first track of "Exotica" by Manuel and the Music of the Mountains backwards you hear his stertorus voice declaring his secret lust for Cilla Black. That kind of thing. > > 4. Other exotica/things you collect Books: cheesy science fiction; on/by comedians; of strange, unclassifiable nature. > > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Contemporary classical music, a branch, or maybe whole other tree, of "incredibly strange". Worlds of neglected musical idiosyncracy (and wild album covers) to explore here. Also "classical perversion" records: "pops" tunes subjected to jazzing, bossanovaing, mamboing, countrifying, mooging... (guess this belongs under "exotica" anyway.) Comedy records and really really really badd OTT heavy metal, which amounts to the same thing. Pre-War British dance band music with vocalists with toffee-nosed Bertie Wooster accents singing about drinking tea, nudist colonies, other kinds of colonies, jolly fun, picnics, the talkies, keep fit, etc. etc. George Formby. (And George Formby's dad, who also made records and sounds exactly the same). And also music by, about, or traditionally associated with cockneys (excepting Dick van Dyke). This is the most depraved, hideous musical sub-sub-sub-genre that exists. It stinks, it rules! Key works: "The Ugly Duckling" by Mike Reid and "London Is My Cup Of Tea" by Mr. Acker Bilk. Astor Piazolla, Terje Rypdal, Tom Waits, Frank Zappa, John Zorn. > > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? I just picked up Terry-Thomas's one and only album. It's silly. Terry-Thomas is a demi-god. The book he wrote is silly too. > > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality > > consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs? > > Tell us more! CDs look strangely like an artifact that escaped from an old SF idea that got "the way the future will be" all wrong. LPs are comfortingly large, and you can see them spinning round. > > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or > > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? I have never seen a fez in real life. If you wore a fez in the UK people would make comments about Tommy Cooper, who was a clowning magician/comedian, whose tricks always went wrong. This is the only route via which the fez has really surfaced into the British consciousness. And he would say "a hah hah hah hah -- like that, not like that". It loses something in the description. Maybe teenagers nowadays wouldn't know who Tommy Cooper was though. I don't know. I like my enormously wide purple tie with the light purple and white "O" shapes on it. > > 9. Shaken or stirred? Brown ale. > > 10. I clean my LPs with ... Loving care. > > 11. My home page URL is: Dead for two years. > > 12. I have a Licence To ... rabbit on. -- Pete. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Sloane Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney Equation -Ducks Reply Date: 06 Aug 1998 00:05:56 -0500 At 02:48 PM 8/5/98 -0700, Thom Heileson wrote: >Along these lines of discussion, I _heartily_ recommend finding a copy >of "How To Read Donald Duck" - it's a 1971 Chilean Marxist >deconstruction of DD comix. Pretty entertaining, and interesting. Much >of it goes way too far, but there are some poignant points made. Finds >capitalist symbolism in the plots, character relationships, and the fact >that none of the ducks wear pants. (This was assigned reading for an MFA >seminar of mine...) The book is by Ariel Dorfman (the playwright) and Armand Mattelart, and its most recent edition can be found on the press International General. I, too, read the book for a class (last fall), and I second your comments. Rob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: Re: (exotica) Saving Jessica Date: 06 Aug 1998 07:57:36 -0700 (PDT) If Jessica is on a road trip, I can't wait until she gets back and tell us what she found in the thrift stores around the country. ---Lou Smith wrote: Didn't she have an .edu e-mail account? Perhaps she's on a roadtrip during summer break. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmperl@juno.com (Jonathan M Perl) Subject: (exotica) Gainsbourg Jazz Date: 07 Jul 1998 09:15:22 -0400 >Billboard also reports that they will be releasing an album of jazz >reworkings of Burt's material. This made me wonder, has anyone heard or does anyone own the album of jazz interpretations of Serge Gainsbourg's songs which is mentioned in the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd? I don't remember who the artist was, but it was a reasonably recent (1994 or something) release from France. Anyone? regards Jonny _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: D.E.N.: eXotica Releases Overview Update (18 Jul 98) Date: 06 Aug 1998 09:21:32 -0600 At 13:57 06/08/98 +0000, you wrote: > >Johan listed this new release: >> * Various Artists: "Formation 60" >> CD/LP, JazzanovaCompostRec JCR003, Germany, 1998 >Does Johan or our german friends or anyone in the list know more >about this? >I appreciate your help. I'm not German, but I do their UK publicity. What do you wanna know? It is a compilation of East German jazz from the former East German state label Amiga. I think it is very straight jazz, but it is getting a very good reaction over here. Not very loungey. I wouldn't play it out... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stefan@subliminal.se (Subliminal Sounds) Subject: Re: (exotica) Man In Space With Sounds VINYL Date: 06 Aug 1998 17:23:40 +0200 (MET DST) The Spanish vinyl pressing of "Attilio Mineo presents Man In Space with Sounds" by Wah-Wah is legit. It was licensed to them by me, Jack and Mr. Mineo. I never saw it mentioned as a possible bootleg in any earlier posting otherwise I would have protested earlier. Stefan >At 01:52 PM 8/5/98 -0700, Jaaaack wrote: >>Hello all, >>I have a *few* copies of the Spanish Import LP Reissue of the >>"Attilio Mineo Conducts Man in Space With Sounds" Catalog # 66666 >Lou Smith wrote: >OK, now I'm confused! Didn't we conclude that these Limited Edition Spanish >import LPs (like Moon Gas) are pirate copies. Does this mean Jack is selling >illegal copies of his own legit re-issue?!? What gives? Stefan/Subliminal Sounds web-site: http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-64169/ e-mail: stefan@subliminal.se Subliminal Sounds S:t Paulsgatan 16 SE-118 46 STOCKHOLM SWEDEN Tel/Fax/Office: +46 - 694 86 66 Tel Shop: +46 - 694 86 77 "Attilio Mineo Conducts Man in Space With Sounds" Now on CD! http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-64169/ http://www.jackdiamond.com/attilio.htm European Wholesale Distribution/Retail Sales Stefan Kery/Subliminal Sounds Stefan@subliminal.se Fax/Phone +46 8 694 86 66 web-site: http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-64169/ e-mail: stefan@subliminal.se Publicity by Motormouth Media (Hollywood, CA) *Main*Wholesale Distribution in the US: NAIL Distribution 1-888-Nail-Inc (Toll Free) http://www.bubblator@naildistribution.com/ OR Wholesale/Retail Sales: Jack Diamond Music Http://www.jackdiamond.com Fax/Phone (650) 325-2284 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Diamond Subject: (exotica) Playlist for Jack, 7-19-98 Date: 06 Aug 1998 08:23:03 -0700 KFJC play list 7/19/98 for Jack Diamond ARTIST TRACK ALBUM __________________________________________________________________ The Planets Chunky Art Pepper Qrt Cool Bunny Jan, 1957 W/ Russ Freeman-Pno; Ben Tucker-Bass Chuck Flores-Drums Big Jim Sullivan Sunshine Superman Sitar Beat! Air Talisman Moon Safari 101 Strings Orch. W/ Bebe Bardon Je T'aime Love at 1ST Sight The Ventures Psyched-Out! Mancini! with The Party (Instro) Bill Plummer-Sitar Plas Johnson-Tenor Sax Jack Sheldon Gershon Kingsley Trumansburg Whistle Music to Moog By Leith Stevens Orch; The Movie Star Arr X Bill Holman Chet Baker Mike Pacheco-Bongos Bud Shank-Alto Sax Richie Kamuca-Tenor Pepper Adams-Bari Woody Phillips Dance Of...Sugar Plum Fairy Hot Club of America Caravan Coral Fred Lowery Tennessee Waltz Mid 50'S Whistling Cinzano Commercial Cinzano Makes Ashtrays 1966 ??? Jim Gordon Rites of Passage Mort Garson Witch Trial Black Mass Lucifer Bill Jennings-Gtr Cool Grits Jack Mcduff-Organ Willis Jackson-Tenor Tommy Potter-Bass Gabor Szabo With; White Rabbit Bill Plummer-Sitar California Dreamers Fifty Foot Hose Fantasy Cauldron (1ST Half of Tune) Limelight, 1967 Lewis Sisters S'wonderful Liberty The Forbidden 5 Enchanted Forest 60'S Psych Quiet Village Ken Nordine What Time Izzit Dot, 1957, Mono ?????????? Mark Renwick Melancholy Serenade Mussette Records Clyde Borley S.O.S. Force Atco, 1966, France Nino Rota: Ballando Con Raquel Soundtrack: Alberto Investiga Spara Forte... Raquel Mistero 2 Alberto and Raquel Sidney Poitier W/ Discovery of the Good Life Fred Katz Orch. Jerry Goldsmith Westward Ho-O-O! In Like Flint Robert Prince Dance at the Gym: Mambo Maria Cha Cha Jump Kenyon Hopkins The Chase Nightmare! David Jannsen & Public Service Announcement Jack Webb For Dope Smuggling Bob Leaper Orch High Wire Dean Elliot Orch. College Confidential Kenyon Hopkins Going Rooms Ost Enoch Light What the World Needs Now Spaced Out! Ed Wood Main Title Ed Wood Cale, John Kiss Movement 01 Eat/Kiss: Music for the Films Taxi Driver Thank God for the Rain Taxi Driver Taxi Driver Cleaning the Cab Taxi Driver Taxi Driver I Still Can't Sleep Taxi Driver La Morte Accarezz La Morte Accarezza a La Morte Accarezza ...... John Zorn's Naked City The Sicilian Clan Morricone Title Electric Piano- I Had Tooooooooo Much Playground To Dream Last Night Kenneth Patchen W/ As I Open the Window Folkways, 1959 Alan Neil Qrt Johnny Kidd/Pirates Restless 1960 Nutty Squirrels Yardbird Suite Cannonball Adderly Roy Clark Roy's Guitar Boogie Liquid Sky Ost Nightclub 2 Pete Rugolo Diamond on the Move KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 Http://www.KFJC.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: Re: (exotica) Whither Vik? Date: 06 Aug 1998 08:34:15 -0700 (PDT) Very sad news indeed. A moment of silence please for the end of an era. At least its frozen in time. Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck ---"Br. Cleve" wrote: >2) Radio Vik is suddenly "off the air"! >Are these items connected? I'm sure Vik is aware of these legal issues, as by day he is a webmaster for a record company. But in a related note, he told me last week that he has shut down Vik's Lounge, but will be keeping it "frozen in time", like the Space Age Bachelor Pad site. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fred Loewen" Subject: (exotica) Tommy Garrett/50 Guitars Date: 06 Aug 1998 10:32:00 -0500 I'd like to know from the group: Does anyone know the name of the Tommy Garrett/50 Guitars album with the following 2 songs on it: "This Guy's In Love With You" and "Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You". While these 2 songs do appear on his "Best of the 50 Guitars, Volume 2" recording, that is not the album that I'm thinking of. There must be another Tommy Garrett/50 Guitars album with these 2 songs on it. Anyone know what the name of that album is? Please respond to me directly at: mailto:goglobal@mb.sympatico.ca Thanks, Fred Loewen Winnipeg, CANADA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) erotica Italia Date: 06 Aug 1998 08:48:22 -0700 (PDT) I'm beginning to feel like an advertisement for Other Music in NYC. I'm not connected other than they should have a 2d mortgage on my house to pay for these vast numbers of exotica releases I've purchased from them. I got erotica Italia from Tom at Other Music. You can call Tom at (212) 477-8150 & with a credit card it will be shiped that day or you can can email him at sales@othermusic.com or go straight to the website http://www.interactive.net/~tomc ---Bump wrote: > > Not quite as impressive but another must own treat is "erotica ITALIA" > on BMG Eurodisc (Arista 3484) 1997 Its title is quite appropriate for describing the sound of the music. It also says "The 'Kama Sutra of Italian erotic movie music from the 1960's and 70's, compiled and > presented by Patrick Whitaker and Martin Green, Th Sound Curators" ( Who we all know from the Sound Gallery and Sound Spectrum. ) Excuse me but I can't remember if this particular cd was already mentioned on the list. > yeah, ratso mentioned this and i have been looking for it... > where did you find it? > > love this stuff... _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Cleaning, again Date: 06 Aug 1998 12:11:35 -0500 At 09:04 AM 8/6/98 -0400, Peter Risser wrote: > >Sorry to rehash this, but I lost the post that had the answer. >I'm really leaning towards the alcohol and distilled water, but I can only >remember that it's 2 parts water to 1 part alcohol. Is this correct? > >Any particular type of alcohol? >And what's the best type of rag to use? >A sponge? A rag? Steel wool? (Some need it!) > >Someone re-elucidate me please! The current stat of opinion amongst serious vinyl preservationists is to stay away from alcohol in all its forms - it supposedly leaches out the vinyl stabilizers. You might want to visit this URL for the Care and Handling of Recorded= Material: Here's an excerpt: Cleaning: Since dust is usually held in place by electrostatic attraction, dry wiping on its own does not work effectively. The added friction created by the duster will cause the dust to jump back to the charged surface.=20 Distilled water is used for cleaning records and CDs for many reasons. Its precise chemical makeup is known, it will not leave any residue behind, is safe to use, and is inexpensive. Water disperses static charges and counteracts the increase in conductivity from the pick-up of salt deposits from finger prints. However, water alone cannot dissolve grease, thus surfactants are used as additives to enable water to be a grease solvent. Surfactants break grease surface bonds and allow water to penetrate grease solids, causing swelling and then random dispersion.=20 General: =95The Canadian Conservation Institute (CCI) recommends the use of nonionic, ethelyne oxide condensates surfactants to clean sound recordings. The CCI does not foresee long-term problems associated with the use of nonionic surfactants such as Tergitol. Tergitol 15-S-3 is an oil soluble surfactant and 15-S-9 is a water soluble surfactant. Combined they remove a wide range of dirt and greases and can safely be used on sound recordings. Use 0.25 part of Tergitol 15-S-3 and 0.25 parts of Tergitol 15-S-9 per 100 parts of distilled water. (These products are available in small quantities from TALAS (Division of Technical Library Service Inc) 213 West 35th Street, New York, N.Y. (212) 465-8722.) The recording must then be rinsed thoroughly with distilled water to eliminate any trace of detergent residue. =95Keep an airgun handy to blow off light surface dust.=20 Grooved discs: =95Grooved discs are best cleaned using a record cleaning machine such as= the Keith Monks, VPI, Nitty Gritty using 0.25 part of Tergitol 15-S-3 and 0.25 parts of Tergitol 15-S-9 per 100 parts of distilled water. These machines allow for an even dispersion of fluid and can then vacuum the liquid leaving a clean, dry surface. The discs must then be rinsed thoroughly with distilled water and vacuumed dry to eliminate any trace of detergent residue. Records should be cleaned before each playback. =95Clean Vulcanite discs showing signs of acid build up using 0.25 part of Tergitol 15-S-3 and 0.25 parts of Tergitol 15-S-9 per 100 parts of distilled water and rinse thoroughly. =95Clean acetate discs showing signs of palmitic acid deposits (white greasy substance on acetate disc surface) as if cleaning LPs, except add 1 part ammonia per 100 to the Tergitol cleaning solution. Do not use ammonia on shellac based discs.=20 For those who want an excellent cleaning system without requiring a wet/vac machine, there's the Disc Doctor system . There's also an audio zine called Primyl Vinyl that, in one back issue, explains how to build a wet/vac machine for $50 and also gives 10 recipies for home-brewed LP cleaning fluids. If you want, I can try to track down that info. --Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores Date: 06 Aug 1998 09:32:07 -0700 (PDT) ---"paul m." wrote: > > > >Where do you guys put all your records anyway? >>>I've only got one old Licorice Pizza crate and its >>>full of the old punk albums. Sometimes I think my albums take up less space then the stupid jewel boxes for cds. I had some good ole boy carpenters build me a solid 10 foot tall wooden shelveing unit that is shaped like a U to fit underneath and aroud a old New Orleans window. Its 9 feet wide at the bottom of the U. It still wasn't enough room to hold the record albums. A record collecting freind of mine had his house start to lean to one side. It was the same side his huge record collection was on. He moved out of that apartment. I helped him move. It was miserable moving all those boxes of albums. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Another sign of the Apocalypse Date: 06 Aug 1998 09:39:38 -0700 (PDT) Another sign of the Apocalypse. Vic's Lounge is frozen in time. ---Nat Kone wrote: > > Earlier tonight I posted on this list something to the effect that I would > be spending the evening listening to a bunch of Yes I bought a Frank Mills record. And not just any Frank Mills record. The record with "Music Box Dancer" on it. And I listened to the record and > I didn't run and take it off when that horrid song came on. > > That's it. It's over. > > Phone your loved ones, pack up your records, the world is ending. > Nat _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Cook Subject: Re: (exotica) Cleaning, again & again Date: 06 Aug 1998 12:51:01 -0400 Do I hear grumbling about this thread? Well, I'll just ignore it & forge ahead ... (I've really tried to get this answered in other places but get intimidated and confused by all of the audiophilia ... so, I'll ask here among friends who *do* understand just why I would *want* to try to revive that Three Suns LP) ... Okay, I think I want to bite the bullet & buy one of these cleaning machines. No matter what I do myself to clean my vinyl, it always seems to turn out to be the "wrong" thing to do & I usually get pretty mediocre results ... I'm a bit more forgiving with surface noise than most, but can't tolerate that cartridge-floating-on-a-cotton-ball sound. (My current method is a spray mister with water & a bit of ammonia and a Discwasher brush. If I play more than a few LPs in a sitting, the Discwasher tends to get a bit soppy.) Anyway, here's my question(s): * Is there one in particular vacuum machine that's better than others? Particularly for the condition of the LPs we sniff out from thrifts? Nitty Gritty seems to be the one most often mentioned. Either that, or it's got the easiest to remember name. * Do these machines actually do a *better* job in cleaning vinyl; or, are they just much more efficient & convenient? If it's the latter, that's cool by me, I just don't wanna be expecting miracles if unwarranted. * Is there a reliable place on the web I can order one of these things? I've come to really dislike most of the audio equipment dealers in Philadelphia & would rather git it m'self. Oh: while I'm at it Okay, here's a related question I've been *dying* to have answered for a long time ... I've asked in audio equipment stores & get really blank looks 'cause they invariably ask what "kind of stuff" I play. You know how that goes ... Sometimes there will be an old record that sounds GREAT. Except for one particular frequency, which crackles and fuzzes & makes the whole thing nearly unlistenable. Sometimes it will be the "featured" voice or instrument, sometimes not. Okay, let me explain it with an example: a copy of Jane Morgan's "Last Time I Saw Paris" has crystal clarity on all of the backing. Sounds like it was pressed yesterday. But her voice, when she hits a certain range ... crackle crackle crackle .... What's up with that? Does this just mean it's a really dirty record? Damaged beyond repair? Is it a static problem? Sometimes playing this kind of record wet helps. I'd just toss them into the "oh well" pile, but it's just weird how it effects just certain frequencies .... Okay, now back to the music. Hey -- tying up some loose threads. To the person looking for a decent Brubeck disc (I fully subscribe to Nat's summing up on Brubeck): I really like "Dave Digs Disney." The accessibility of the Disney tunes is a nice antidote to the (faux) capital-J Jazz posturing of the combo. --chris cook # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Giovanni Berti" Subject: (exotica) Formation 60 Date: 06 Aug 1998 18:49:27 +0000 > >Johan listed this new release: > >> * Various Artists: "Formation 60" > >> CD/LP, JazzanovaCompostRec JCR003, Germany, 1998 > >Does Johan or our german friends or anyone in the list know more > >about this? > >I appreciate your help. > > I'm not German, but I do their UK publicity. What do you wanna know? It is a > compilation of East German jazz from the former East German state label > Amiga. I think it is very straight jazz, but it is getting a very good > reaction over here. Not very loungey. I wouldn't play it out... > > Jill "Mingo-go" Basically, I'd like to know if it's music recorded in 50's or 60's or it's contemporary. I guess the second. Is that right? And who's playing in it? Thank You, Jill Gionni Paludi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Fernsehprogramm, Deutschland Date: 06 Aug 1998 19:06:16 +0000 Ho, ho! Was seh ich da? Do., 6. August, SAT 1, 0 Uhr 15 und 3 Uhr 35, also eigentlich schon Freitag: Monty Python's Flying Circus, Titel der heutigen Folge. "Der Kon Tiki". Die neusynchronisierte Monty Python-Reihe ist eigentlich garnicht so schlecht geworden, wenn auch kein Vergleich mit dem Original... MO*TV # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren hutton Subject: RE: (exotica) erotica Italia Date: 06 Aug 1998 13:34:34 Pacific Daylight Time You wrote: >>I'm beginning to feel like an advertisement for Other Music in NYC. >>I'm not connected other than they should have a 2d mortgage on my >>house to pay for these vast numbers of exotica releases I've purchased >>from them. > Could you send the address of this place? I have a friend in NYC that has never heard of it. Or maybe a rough approximation of where it is. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Sandy's eyelashes Date: 06 Aug 1998 19:41:20 +0000 I just started to paint the Denny's "Exotica" Cover (LRP 3034 Mono version, of course) in oil and what do I see on a closer look? Sandy Warner is wearing painted eyelashes! Painted on the skin above her eyes. I guess the girls in the list had seen this right away. I never saw a girl do that in real life. Exotic! It also looks as if this vaginal-symbolic piece of silver on her forehead is fixed to her hair with an ordinary safety pin. MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The floor recognized the delegate from Dixie . . . . Date: 06 Aug 1998 13:46:46 EDT In a message dated 98-08-05 14:35:02 EDT, rgrandia writes: <> in ref to: << Exotica legislation. Constitutional law reading 1.1. Votes: Southern Exotica Confederacy delegate: approved! IMPORTANT NOTE: Delegate requires the record to show that disregard of input or lack of recognition from the Southern Exotica Confederacy will result in the secession of said Confederacy from the list. And yes, Dixie is considered exotica music by many. Robert "E." Brooks Well . . . . Preston Smith Brooks was from Edgefield county South Carolina and brought the Brooks name to fame (infamy) just prior to the Civil War. He served in the House of Representatives and took exception to comments made by Charles Sumner, a representative from Mass. Sumner made disparaging remarks about the South, South Carolina and, specifically, Brooks father-in-law. This all happened in 1856 in the aftermath of the "Kansas Compromise". Brooks deemed Sumner to be a scoundrel (not a gentleman) and thus, by the code of chivalry, Brooks felt he was not compelled to challenge him to a duel (which was the way a family's honor was restored). He chose instead to flail Sumner (on the floor of the Senate no less) with a cane. This incident is usually sited in the history books because it represented how tense things were getting between the Northern and Southern States. Incidentally, there were not sufficient votes to expel Brooks from Congress. He was fined $ 5.00 for disorderly conduct. He became a "hero" to southerners and southern sympathizers would send him canes with little tags attached that had name of other northerners that Brooks should flail. Robert P.S. I was humming Dixie while typing this to make it relevant to our list. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Whither Vik? Date: 06 Aug 1998 14:06:00 -0400 > I'm sure Vik is aware of these legal issues, as by day he is a webmaster > for a record company. But in a related note, he told me last week that he > has shut down Vik's Lounge, but will be keeping it "frozen in time", like > the Space Age Bachelor Pad site. > > br cleve That's a shame. Vik's Lounge has been (and will still be) such a valuable resource. I found this very list through Vik's links. Many thanks, Vik! Hmmm, this ties into another recent thread. Vik's Lounge has been put into cryogenic suspension. Just like "Uncle Walt." What kind of ice would you like in that cocktail? m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Saving Jessica Date: 06 Aug 1998 14:02:46 EDT In a message dated 98-08-06 11:01:29 EDT, chuck writes: << If Jessica is on a road trip, I can't wait until she gets back and tell us what she found in the thrift stores around the country. >> the server ain't got enough space for that mega list. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) one of the signs of the Apocalypse Date: 06 Aug 1998 14:11:34 -0400 > Yes I bought a Frank Mills record. And not just any Frank Mills record. > The record with "Music Box Dancer" on it. And I listened to the record and > I didn't run and take it off when that horrid song came on. > > That's it. It's over. > > Phone your loved ones, pack up your records, the world is ending. > > Nat This post sounds SO much like a Lester Bangs piece... Hey, waitaminnit! You ARE Lester Bangs, aren't you? And you faked your death, just like Elvis. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores Date: 06 Aug 1998 14:12:35 -0400 I had a cheezy low-scale Hammond organ that I bought at a used electronics warehouse for $20. It broke, so I ripped the guts out of it, and used the heavy oak for shelving. I finished building it and realized that it was too small. So they get stacked on top until I get around to moving and re-building the thing. Or tossing it and using and old console stereo cabinet instead. surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Cleaning, again Date: 06 Aug 1998 14:19:29 -0400 For anyone who wants to live dangerously and use alcohol (despite the warnings), the traditional recipe is: 2 parts distilled water 1 part denatured alcohol I've used scraps of old white t-shirts for rags. I don't know about long-term effects on the vinyl, but it sure does cut through crusty mold. I'm sure this is all very, very wrong and I will burn in record abuser hell when I die. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Whither Vik? Date: 06 Aug 1998 14:25:08 -0700 (PDT) They are missing the point when they think www broadcasts hurt record sales. Its obivious that you buy more music because of what you are exposed to. I want to thank Vic for having such cool taste to put that great music on his site. Vic's lounge has turned me on to such a variety of new music that I couldn't wait to go out and buy it. I doubt this law will help the record industry. Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck ---"m.ace" wrote: > Two things that I noted in tonight's web crawl... 1) The RIAA is succeeding in getting a new law passed to require net broadcasters to pay an additional fee to the RIAA (an organization of the major record companies) -- this is in addition to the existing payments to ASCAP &> BMI (totally separate organizations, as explained recently by Br. Cleve). And no, traditional radio has never had to pay any such fee (and will still not have to). > Story at: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,24940,00.html > > 2) Radio Vik is suddenly "off the air"! > http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/radio/radiovik.html _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Cleaning, again & again Date: 06 Aug 1998 18:26:34 EDT In a message dated 8/6/98 2:08:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cook@pobox.upenn.edu writes: > sometimes it will be the "featured" voice or > instrument, sometimes not. Okay, let me explain it with an example: a > copy of Jane Morgan's "Last Time I Saw Paris" has crystal clarity on all of > the backing. Sounds like it was pressed yesterday. But her voice, when > she hits a certain range ... crackle crackle crackle .... Am I wrong, or isn't that caused by needle damage, and pretty much irreparable? I hate it when an album looks great, and you get it home, and it's got that cotton ball crackle. Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) fat cats vs. the net (long, boring) Date: 06 Aug 1998 20:14:04 -0400 >> The RIAA is succeeding in getting a new law passed to require net >> broadcasters to pay an additional fee to the RIAA (an organization of > > They are missing the point when they think www broadcasts hurt record > sales. Its obivious that you buy more music because of what you are > exposed to. I want to thank Vic for having such cool taste to put > that great music on his site. Vic's lounge has turned me on to such a > variety of new music that I couldn't wait to go out and buy it. I > doubt this law will help the record industry. And given the global nature of the net, isn't it funny how this fee is supposed to go to the Recording Industry Association of *America*? The funnier thing is, The U.S. Copyright Office conducted a 2 year study which concluded that new laws were not necessary, because the copyright act was written to be "technology neutral" as much as possible. News item here: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,24756,00.html The pressure for new laws is all coming from special interest groups. And the ease with which some of this is going through is scary. I think it's not so much about fear of record sales being hurt as it is desire to control the medium. The possibility of the record companies being cut out of the artist to listener chain is a real threat, and I'm sure they will do everything they can, fair or foul, to prevent it. From the artists' viewpoint, having the manufacturing/distribution bottleneck eliminated would be a real dream (though the matter of marketing might be more complicated). I can't remember the exact details, but I recall a Frank Zappa interview where he said even he was surprised how much more money he made when he went totally indie with Barking Pumpkin and no longer had all of those percentages being extracted. Eliminate the mass production and distribution costs, and it should be even better. Todd Rundgren was one of the early big-name folks to embrace these possibilities, and he's hinted that the established biz has been treating him rather cooly ever since. The big boys are not going to go quietly into the night. If they are unable to prevent such things from happening, they may shift the battle to control of the new process. It may well wind up that artists who have zero connection with a record company will have to pay a percentage to the RIAA in order to legally deliver their music through the net. P-yew! But this is just my oversimplified view. Maybe some other folks here can add much more focused and informed insights. oh, I'm no fun anymore, m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Bennet" Subject: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg Date: 06 Aug 1998 20:18:58 -0400 Jonny wrote: This made me wonder, has anyone heard or does anyone own the album of jazz interpretations of Serge Gainsbourg's songs which is mentioned in the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd? I don't remember who the artist was, but it was a reasonably recent (1994 or something) release from France. Anyone? ------------------- What do people think of the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd anyway? Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tosh@loop.com (Tosh) Subject: Re: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg Date: 06 Aug 1998 19:16:43 -0700 (PDT) >What do people think of the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd anyway? > It is my favorite of the three collections. But you know Gainsbourg is such a genius... Are there any big Gainsbourg collectors out there on the list? ----------------- Tosh Berman TamTam Books ---------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: recliner Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores Date: 06 Aug 1998 22:46:20 -0500 >Shelves, shelves and more shelves. I'm running out of room for shelves. I've >had to put my bed on stilts so I can buy...more shelves... Years ago I built my own bed frame to a very specific height...so that I could fit record crates beneath it. Frank (dreaming over vinyl) My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's Every Tuesday night from 10 - 11:30 on WMPG 90.9fm, Portland Maine! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List Date: 06 Aug 1998 23:11:14 EDT OK, so I resisted long enough. Here are my freakin stats. > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... No, I am not so inclined. I often joke that I the only musical instrument I can play is the radio. > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? Def. Denny's Quiet Village. Period. > 3. This list could help you more by... Helping me plan my retirement strategy > 4. Other exotica/things you collect Shees, get ready. Tiki mugs galore, cocktail shakers and barwear, vintage stereo equipment (oh no, those damn Magnavoxes again), Victrolas and 78's, James Bond stuff (fallen off on this since puberty ended at age 35 a year ago), a couple of old cars, player piano rolls (hey that's exotica!), old furniture/furnishings (read retro), I'll stop now. > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Ragtime music, especially Eubie Blake. Mechanized music like player pianos (mentioned above), orchestrons, calliopes. > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? Thank God all my friends don't know all this. > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality > consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs? > Tell us more! All have their merits. I am the most impressed with piano rolls. It is amazing that these rolls of paper, a process developed about 100 years ago, with little holes in them, can play music. Next up, 78's and the Victrolas that played them. When we were hit by Hurricane Hugo in 1989 and were without electricity for 10 days I played the hell out of my Victrola. Believe it or not, the sound quality and volume is really not bad. > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Yeah, an old Masonic one my uncle had. I want a leopard skin (fake of course) one but I am not sure where I would wear it. Maybe on my riding lawn mower -- that should get the neighbors attention. > 9. Shaken or stirred? With a cocktail shaker collection in excess of 50 need you ask. > 10. I clean my LPs with ... a Brillo pad and some Shine-O-La > 11. My home page URL is: www.wemustbefreakinnuts.com > 12. I have a License To ... practice optometry . . . and I will make any bastard who flames me because of this post wear a special pair of b.c. bifocal glasses (birth control glasses -- so ugly, you won't be able to get a date -- then again, look what they did for Esquivel) Regards, Robert Brooks Charleston, South Carolina USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) one of the signs of the Apocalypse Date: 07 Aug 1998 01:09:39 -0400 At 02:11 PM 06/08/98 -0400, m.ace wrote: > >This post sounds SO much like a Lester Bangs piece... > >Hey, waitaminnit! > >You ARE Lester Bangs, aren't you? > >And you faked your death, just like Elvis. Twenty odd years ago, I would have thought I'd died and gone to heaven if someone compared anything I wrote to anything Lester Bangs wrote. Now that I'm older, it's still pretty flattering. I've felt a lot closer to Lester lately since I read in his book that the first record he bought with his own money was Mundell Lowe's TV ACTION JAZZ... which was not the first record I ever bought but was probably the first sorta exotica record I ever found. But since you seem intent on finding out my real identity, okay... I'm John Tesh. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List Date: 06 Aug 1998 22:26:15 -0800 hrmmm... why i'm not doing this, i'm not completely sure of... i guess, since i post so little, the least i could offer up a bit of where i'm coming from. be nice, now! >> 1. Are you a musician? Explain... > no, no, no... although, i've always harbored a secret desire to be a bit of a lounge-singing diva. I guess that wacky "talent" thing keeps getting in they way. > > > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? ok, now seriously, no flames please. the first album that clued me into a whole sub-genre i was missing out on was Stereolab's "john cage bubblegum". but on a more traditional note, i knew i had found something special when i saw the cover of denny's "exotica." i'd no clue what it would would like, only that i knew i would love it... and i did! > > 3. This list could help you more by... giving me a raise... i mean, erm, nothing actually. i find that i learn heaps by just reading it everyday (although that's hard on the really busy days!). > > 4. Other exotica/things you collect well, as i'm still not _totally_ sure what qualifies as exotica collectables, i'll list the things i'm most passionate about (and spend the most "disposable" income on): late '50s and early '60s furniture, cocktail dresses, handbags, dishes and flatware, tiki-related silliness, cigarette holders, flasks (for women, usually), picnic baskets, european scarves, old zippos, etc... do Daguerreotypes and stereoscopes count? > > > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like my biggest musical investment is in "indiepop" which is a really overgeneralized term for all things indie... guitar-oriented, ambient, electronic, acoustic and more... > > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? i once had this dream where i was dancing the foxtrot with bill clinton. i can't stand peanut butter. > > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality > > consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs? > > Tell us more! well, i presume this topic has been rehashed to death, so i'll say this: i love LPs because i love good packaging. i'm not an audiophile. i don't see how lps sound better than cds (in practice, although in theory, yes). I like cds because i can take them with me everywhere i go, and because my Mac doesn't have a built-in lp drive (yet!) I will pay more for an LP than a CD because it seems like a better long-term investment for me. > > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or > > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? > erm, no... > > > 9. Shaken or stirred? i, like lots of you (i think) am really into collecting cocktail gear... i've an innocent-looking picnic basket that unfolds to be a full, wet bar. I'm a huge fan of martini glasses, as i think they're the epitome of perfect shapes. I'm also a big drinker... and when i go out, i tend to order a jack and coke (with cherry). In the posher places, that seems a bit boring, so i head for a manhatten, shaken, straight up. > > 10. I clean my LPs with ... verve > > 11. My home page URL is: http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/poptart > > 12. I have a License To ... > pay off student loans for the rest of my life. -- jasmine, who enjoyed that quite a bit # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Randi L Massingill Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List Date: 06 Aug 1998 22:37:48 -0700 >> 1. Are you a musician? Explain... nope, I think I didnt learn any instruments out of spite for my parents who could play music and they were horrible. >> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? I love celebrity records...bad celebrity records. I used to own Jayne Mansfield Busts Up Las Vegas. My husband sold all of my records and now he is my ex-husband. >> 3. This list could help you more by... doing my dishes and dusting my shelving. >> 4. Other exotica/things you collect I buy vintage clothing that I think I may look halfway decent in. I just need to leave the house in some of these clothes. >> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like no laughing please! The Monkees and Rick Springfield. I am mostly into Frank Sinatra, Nancy Sinatra and Ann-Margret. Im not certain if they fit in the exotica or the unrelated retro section. >> 6. What are you just dying to tell us? that I am going to see Bobby Sherman, Peter Noone and Davy Jones in concert on Saturday. Also I once had a poodle named Barky. >> 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality >> consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs? >> Tell us more! I prefer the convenience of CD in relation to where it is in my office but I prefer LPs (my preference in initials) for their art. >> 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or >> other lounge-wear of which you are proud? I plead the fifth. Actually I have seen a red fez that I want and I need to go back and see how much it is. >> 9. Shaken or stirred? I like my Ovaltine stirred. >> 10. I clean my LPs with ... the few LPs I have are nice and clean already. >> 11. My home page URL is: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Bungalow/7284/eyeofbeholder.html >> 12. I have a Licence To ... be adorable, smart and modest. Randi L. Massingill Eye of the Beholder- movie memorabilia search service http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Bungalow/7284/eyeofbeholder.html Join The Christopher Reeve Mailing List! http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/chrisreeve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List Date: 07 Aug 1998 00:39:45 -0700 OK, so many have done this, I guess I will too. >> 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Yes, a percussionist. I was a rock drummer for years, hard rock in the seventies, new wave/punkish in the eighties, back to rock in the later eighties. Stopped playing after my daughter was born. In a moment of delusion, I sold my whole kit, and have regretted it ever since. >> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? When I was 14 I bought "Bob Thompson - Mmmm Nice!" at a neighbors garage sale, because my attention was drawn to the babe on the cover. In 1990 I was at a friends house and he put on that Martin Denny-Rhino comp. I bought it the next day and have been hooked ever since. >> 3. This list could help you more by... Nothing, really. I'm happy. >> 4. Other exotica/things you collect Nothing, really. I'm happy. But I'll bring anything home if it's unusual. >> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like I too am a Monkees fan. I have all their Rhino CD's, except Missing Links Vol. Two. 60's/70's bubblegum, 60's/70's am rock/schmaltz pop, celebrity records, classic jazz, classic blues, some C&W up to about 1972, classic soul, soundtracks. Probably more - does this mean "I like everything, really"? No, I can think of some things I don't like. >> 6. What are you just dying to tell us? We're expecting a baby boy in December. Haven't decided on a name yet. Suggestions? >> 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? I prefer CD's, but I love LP's too. I'll pick up a record at a thrift if I already have it on CD, just so I can have the original pressing - but I'd rarely play it. Mainly I play records that haven't been released on cd yet (if ever). >> 8. Own a fez? No, I don't do the fashion thing. I do have lots of Hawaiian shirts and colorful surfer baggy pants (you know, like Joey Buttafuoco), but only because they're so darn comfortable, and after I turned 34 I lost control of my waistline. >> 9. Shaken or stirred? Shaken >> 10. I clean my LPs with ... I've always used one of those Discwasher D4+ things, with the spray and the wood handled "brush". It doesn't work so well, though. I've read all the record cleaning posts with interest, but there's so many different opinions I don't know which one to use. >> 11. My home page URL is: I don't have one yet, I've been too lazy. Someday... >> 12. I have a Licence To ... Become neutered in December, following the blessed event. Ouch. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List (Dave and LeAnn) Date: 07 Aug 1998 01:16:06 -0700 >> 6. What are you just dying to tell us? We're expecting a baby boy in December. Haven't decided on a name yet. Suggestions? Juan Garcia Davidson I was seriously pushing for Miles Davis Grandia when naming my boy (now three. handsome, smart. thankyouverymuch) Hmmm... Baxter Denny Davidson.....uhhhh... Serge Davidson.... I'll get back to ya. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: (exotica) Collection Database Date: 07 Aug 1998 01:31:54 -0700 So who's got a collectors database going? I have been sooo busy lately, but dammit, I have got to start getting the vinyl organized and entered into a database. I really need to get some lists of albums compiled for several projects I am working on. I also have promised information to people about some of my records, and it occurs to me that this would be the perfect time to get the database going... I'd just start entering the things I need to compile...I can add the rest later. This will save me from having to rekey a lot of stuff. So let's make with the recommendations. Also, if anyone wishes to share their database template, well you just go right ahead. I am particularly interested in a system that would let me search large fields of notes (possibly for sections of liners) sice I often need to search for things not easily found in straight title,artist,label, etc.. fields. This should be interesting... Hey, by the way: My records are currently in NO PARTICULAR ORDER. They are just clumped in the basement (my rumpus room) in "groups." Some on shelves. Some on chairs. Tons on the floor. MAN, am I going to be busy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) mighty mellow & other treats Date: 07 Aug 1998 04:44:41 EDT Piero Piccioni----the very name---I love to say it into a micorphone---think of it---Piero Piccioni...say it five times fastttt...MMMMMMMMM...rambling after the disco/Jimmy Botticelli # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Who'se calling who tedious? Date: 07 Aug 1998 04:48:42 EDT how can I get a gig a McGill?.......I wanna physically plan....... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores Date: 07 Aug 1998 04:56:49 EDT record storage--now THERE's a thread---anyone for sewing? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Whither Vik? Date: 07 Aug 1998 05:01:58 EDT will vik himself address his reasons for shutting down ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Ed Lincoln Date: 07 Aug 1998 10:18:52 +0100 OK, seeing as how I got no response at all about this, I assume no-one else has come across it. What a great record. Sort of mambo / Bossa Nova rhythm ( I don't know, I've never had a dance lesson in my life) with a lovely meaty Hammond, trumpet and kazoo (oh, yes). There are vocals, but they're not really featured, more a chorus thats kept fairly well down in the mix. The sleeve just says 'Ed Lincoln' on the front and spine, so I would assume its the first eponymous LP from Ed, who does seem to be a real person as he co-wrote several of the songs. Its a nice cover with 3 couples (I counted) dancing. The label looks a bit blurred so I suppose it may be a bootleg, but its on LP and CD so maybe not. As I said before the man in the shop told me it was popular with Acid Jazz DJs for one of the tracks on it. Anyway, these are the details I have Ed Lincoln Produced by Nilo Sergio on the Musidisc label from Rio de Janeiro The track listing O GANSO (not the same as the Astrud Gilberto song) E O CIDE QUERIDA ALI TEM O AMOR QU TU GUARDEI BALANCO AZUL MEU QUERIDO AMOR YA-YA CARAMBA COCHISE EU NAO VOU MAIS SE TIVER DE SER definitely one for the cheese lovers. Have fun Il Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.sgillitt.dircon.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: (exotica) Re: Suspicious motives.... (& a landfill near you) Date: 07 Aug 1998 02:40:01 PDT >Excuse me, are you saying that your primary motivation for collecting "lounge" >music is that you are recycling junk culture? I would think the primary >motive is you like the music and THEN maybe you think you've done a good deed >by reclaiming/recylcing the old vinyl. > >I welcome response from others on this question. > >- Michele > NO! i don't mean its some kind of environmental concern, that concept that i might be saving plastic from a landfill has never occurred to me, i mean it will go there when i die anyway. No, my point is that i got into this music as a reaction to the regimented consumerism of popular culture. This is me deciding what i consider to be good and enjoyable, for whatever mixed and not at all laudable motives, rather than a media or peer group conception of cool, This opens up decades of popular music which has been neglected and discarded. For example people often distinguuish 'proper' jazz from some of what we like. I love bop etc. but to accept that as the sole history of jazz/ popular music is to have an 'official' history, like the individualist consumer version of maoism. Which my friends and i used to call the 'happy shopper' society (after a brand of tacky products). i always liked to think what we were doing was as close to putting the music first as was possible. hope my motives pass muster.... rob P.S. What's the Larry Page Orchestra like? A friend saw a CD called up , up and away and asked me was it any good. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg Date: 07 Aug 1998 04:21:32 -0600 >This made me wonder, has anyone heard or does anyone own the album of >jazz interpretations of Serge Gainsbourg's songs which is mentioned in >the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd? I don't remember who the artist was, but >it was a reasonably recent (1994 or something) release from France. >Anyone? > >------------------- >What do people think of the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd anyway? It's very jazzy. I know that sounds naff,but that is all I can say about it. I much prefer "Comic Strip" from that trio. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Sandy's eyelashes Date: 07 Aug 1998 08:05:57 -0400 MO, Are they painted, or is it bad lighting? I also noticed that there is a shadow on her left (your right) lower eyelid from her top lashes, so maybe you are seeing shadows, yes? BTW, I did notice the hair pin, kind of blows the mystery of the look a little. surfing the chaos, Charlieman > I just started to paint the Denny's "Exotica" Cover (LRP 3034 Mono > version, of course) in oil and what do I see on a closer look? Sandy > Warner is wearing painted eyelashes! Painted on the skin above her eyes. > I guess the girls in the list had seen this right away. I never saw a > girl do that in real life. Exotic! It also looks as if this > vaginal-symbolic piece of silver on her forehead is fixed to her hair > with an ordinary safety pin. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List (Dave and LeAnn) Date: 07 Aug 1998 09:14:41 EDT In a message dated 98-08-07 06:19:41 EDT, you write: << 6. What are you just dying to tell us? We're expecting a baby boy in December. Haven't decided on a name yet. Suggestions? >> too bad it ain't a girl -- i have always been fond of Yma. Or for the banal: Amy but you could nick name here Yma. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Funny Thought for the Day Date: 07 Aug 1998 09:20:23 EDT OK, the weekend is upon us. I hope everybody has a good one. Ready to smile??? Who out there remembers putting a 45 on each ear and both wearing and listening to your music at the same time? Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmperl@juno.com (Jonathan M Perl) Subject: (exotica) Re: Gainsbourg Date: 08 Aug 1998 09:14:45 -0400 >What do people think of the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd anyway? I adore it - very jazzy, but still accessible, and his singing is really great. Up there with 'mondo morricone' and rhino's 'soundtracks with a twist' as one of my favorite CD releases. >Are there any big Gainsbourg collectors out there on the list? I would love to be, but have never seen ONE of his records at a price I could afford. regards Jonny _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cook@pobox.upenn.edu Subject: Re: (exotica) Collection Database Date: 07 Aug 1998 09:49:26 -0400 >So who's got a collectors database going? Boy, am I EVER SO interested in this thread. I've got a really irritating completist-archivist streak & have been giving the notion of a database an awful lot of thought lately. The idea of data input for what I've already got is a bit daunting. Here's another thought: I'd love a db system that would allow me to easily cut&paste intact track listings onto cassette labels. I do an awful lot of taping & goofy label making. Here's an embarassing admission: I'm one of those people who makes a good cassette recording for nearly every LP that might merit repeated listening. And then the vinyl gets stored away til I need it for a compilation or for a replacement tape. Or cover appreciation. Oy. That means lotsa LPs and the added burden of lotsa tapes. I've pretty much always done that ... even back in the day when it meant tapes of Ultravox, Waitresses & Aztec Camera to play while I drove around suburban Miami in my white Camero with my hair meticulously feathered back. But, that was last year (har har har ...). >Hey, by the way: My records are currently in NO PARTICULAR ORDER. I've got mine stashes in about a dozen or so milk crates under some stairs & pretty much arranged ABC (did I mention I'm pretty obsessive?) by a few broad categories ... but, I did the bulk of my acquiring unguided & learned as I went (there was a long time where I seriously thought I was the only weirdo into "this stuff"), so I'd probably re-categorize them now. Think it goes something like male & female vocals, latin mambo & cha cha (think i probably put my bossa stuff in there, would mebbe change that), swing & swing vocals, Burt & Friends (including A&M crap), 70s garbage, keyboard cheese, box sets, percussion, exotica, old compilations, comedy/spoken word/misc, gogo/discotheque/swingin' 60s, girlgroups, bonehead vocal choruses, K-tel-ish collections, and misc EZ bandleaders/groups/loungy stuff. And, a really, really big, towering "tobefiled" pile. Really big. I have plans to somehow, someday do the shelving bit (all shelving now goes for books & I've got a similiar capacity problem there), but will probably wait until my present lease runs out & try to get a place with an extra "music" room. Yes, that's right, I think record-collecting has begun to dictate my housing decisions!! Plus, I just bought a set of old vibes that are still in my office & I must get them home cause people keep walking by & playing them with pens & keys (ouch!), but I have no place to put them .... I ran across an ad for shelving units fit for the serious LP collector. They were the right size & were sturdy & not a bad price at all. So, I put it aside for later & I can't find it now and don't remember where I saw it ... I'd love to hear how other folks handle these issues ... --chris cook # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Sandy's eyelashes Date: 07 Aug 1998 15:55:00 +0000 No, you can see the real eyeleashes, they are almost in front of the eyeballs. the painted lashes above the eyes could possibly be painted on the photo and not on her skin, but I doubt it. I don't think, becoming aware of the little tricks that artist use, doesn't spoil the mystery. Instead for me the mystery increases when I see things that I haven't seen before, like discovering a little hidden secret. MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cook@pobox.upenn.edu Subject: (exotica) The waiter from Ipanema Date: 07 Aug 1998 09:58:01 -0400 Hey, by the way ... I was in New York last weekend & ended up in Little Brazil looking for dinner and chose (of course!) to eat in a place called Ipanema. Good food; curiously, though, no music. I had to laugh because after I ordered my meal (including the fried chicken dish frango bossa nova ... the only real cutesy thing on the menu), the waiter asked if I was from Brazil 'cause my accent was so good. Bah-hahaha. I, in no way, know any Portugese whatsoever ... I was too embarassed to admit that it was just from listening to too much Jobim/Gilberto, etc. (!!!) Incidentally, the meal was really great ... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Re: Cleaning Again Date: 07 Aug 1998 10:25:14 -0400 << 2 parts distilled water 1 part denatured alcohol I've used scraps of old white t-shirts for rags. I don't know about long-term effects on the vinyl, but it sure does cut through crusty mold. >> See, my guess is that if you use alcohol on the LP before every play, sure, you're in trouble. But if you use it *once* to get rid of all the grime, then treat it nice from then on out, I bet you'd be okay. I mean, come on, that big speil suggests cleaning and vacuuming your LPs before every play. Jeez. Peter === Peter Risser risser@goodnews.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: Re: (exotica) one of the signs of the Apocalypse Date: 07 Aug 1998 10:23:33 -0400 << But since you seem intent on finding out my real identity, okay... I'm John Tesh. Nat >> Wouldn't it be funny if he really was? Peter === Peter Risser risser@goodnews.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Re: Whither Vik? Date: 07 Aug 1998 10:18:25 -0400 << They are missing the point when they think www broadcasts hurt record sales. Its obivious that you buy more music because of what you are exposed to. I want to thank Vic for having such cool taste to put that great music on his site. Vic's lounge has turned me on to such a variety of new music that I couldn't wait to go out and buy it. I doubt this law will help the record industry. Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck >> Duh. Don Tiki, L'Atome, Action +, and TV Dinners all have Vik to thank for introducing me to their music. And Ben Folds Five, Beck, Fiona Apple, Mighty Mighty Bosstones, Jamiroquai and a few other big name bands all can thank the propagation of MP3s. Of course, there were an equal number that I've NOT bought the album for, but hey, I never would have bought the others either, without hearing off-album tracks. But these guys don't care about us discriminating music buyers. We are not the world. The rest of the US buys $18 CDs for two cuts and thinks they're happy. Tons of people I know have discs that they "like one or two songs" and just sit through the rest. Or even not, just skipping to the songs they like and then going on to the next disc. How annoying! Anyway, we can only pray that this spreads to the new generation who are accustomed to only getting the music they want. Imagine every title being digitally available! No such thing as out of print! === Peter Risser risser@goodnews.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) Re: Question List Date: 07 Aug 1998 10:47:50 -0400 Well, the pump slurped up all the water--now we are dealing with That Smell. And hey, now *I* want to have a little fun for a minute here too. . . > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Well, Margaret did give me a cowbell during the darkest days of my Enoch Light Cha Cha phase. . . But honestly, no. Too scarred by childhood viola lessons, I'm afraid. > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? _United States Navy Steel Drum Band Plays "Blowin' In The Wind"_ (found in about 1983). Still one of the odder LPs in my collection. Not exactly exotica, but this this completely accidental flea-market purchase first alerted me there might be some other interesting things lurking in those piles of musty old records. . . > 3. This list could help you more by... I love reading people's descriptions of wild music still out there, that I don't know about yet. Or even if I do own it myself, it's interesting to hear someone else's take on an artist. (Slightly hypocritical here-- haven't posted a "finds" list of my own for months.) > 4. Other exotica/things you collect Cameras older than me. Vintage appliances. Abberant clip art. Cocktail glassware. Should I include all the obsolete Macintoshes? > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Pere Ubu, Twist, Hawaiian slack key, Bad Brains, any record where the musical style is performed by the "wrong" ethnic group. . . Which reminds me, does anyone out there know the name of the artist somtimes referred to as "the Chinese Patsy Cline"? I just have 2 songs on a foreign comp (no english notes), but she's awesome. . . > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? Mmmm, well there's a funny story under #8. . . > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality > consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs? > Tell us more! Well, I was a bit irked when my good CD player died after five years, while meanwhile vinyl happily marches on. But I often end up being the defender of digital--I think there are a lot of misconceptions about it. (I may have posted once about my discovery that you can drill a 3/32" hole through a CD and it will probably play without audible glitches) > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Now this is the funny part. I first heard about the exotica mailing list though Joseph Holmes' old SABPM website. Just to see what the list was all about, I surfed over to download some of the old archives. I noticed that one particular month was a HUGE number of kilobytes compared to all the others, so naturally I was curious and looked at that one. Well it was huge because that was the very month Lounge Laura had inaugurated this questionaire. When I got to the FEZ question, I gasped--for at that very moment, my beloved maroon Shriner fez was SITTING RIGHT ON THE MONITOR! I began to cackle, "At last! I have found my people!!" (I also own a very gangsterish copper-colored suit, which always arouses much comment.) > 9. Shaken or stirred? Or straight from the brown paper bag. > 10. I clean my LPs with ... Ah well, now that would be telling, wouldn't it? > 11. My home page URL is: Not actually a homepage, but you can discover the awful truth about my closet geekiness at: http://www.glpbooks.com/oyb/roscope/index.html > 12. I have a Licence To ... Well, my business card does say I'm a Witch Doctor--but actually I practice without a license. Cheers, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) the Net vs. the Record Biz Date: 07 Aug 1998 10:55:21 -0400 Conspiracy theorists take note: I've heard it suggested that the proposed 96kHz/24 bit standard for DVD audio is RIDICULOUS overkill technically (20-bit/48 kHz being essentially flawless if implemented properly). But 96/24 would make the "audiophile" music format such a byte hog that only big corporations could afford the equipment to work with it. Of course the joke will be on them, when by 2003 a Palm Pilot will be perfectly capable of doing it. . . Yours in Uber-Hi-Fi, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Formation 60 Date: 07 Aug 1998 03:48:01 -0600 >> >> * Various Artists: "Formation 60" >> >> CD/LP, JazzanovaCompostRec JCR003, Germany, 1998 >> >Does Johan or our german friends or anyone in the list know more >> >about this? >> >I appreciate your help. >Basically, I'd like to know if it's music recorded in 50's or 60's or >it's contemporary. I guess the second. Is that right? And who's >playing in it? It's from 1957-69 and features MANFRED-LUDWIG SEXTETT,TOBY FISCHELSCHER & GUENTER WILK, MICHAEL FRITZEN QUARTETT, ORCHESTER KLAUS LENZ, VOLKMAR SCHMIDT COMBO, THEO SCHUMANN COMBO,WERNER PFUELLER QUINTETT, and MODERN JAZZ BIG BAND 65..Hope this helps.. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gary Mattingly Subject: Re: (exotica) Collection Database Date: 07 Aug 1998 08:27:02 -0700 Hello, I use Keep It Compact database, it is at: http://www.keepitcompact.com/main.htm Some other Database tools can be found at: http://www.cddb.com:80/downloads/index.html Keep It Compact has a lot of fields and you can add a few of your own to be searchable. I don't know about searching the notes/comments though. The other database tools might have such a capability but I haven't checked them out for that particular option. My database is still pretty small and I started with the blues sections as opposed to the lounge section. Gary Mattingly At 01:31 AM 8/7/98 -0700, you wrote: > >So who's got a collectors database going? > >I have been sooo busy lately, but dammit, I have got to start getting the >vinyl organized and entered into a database. > >So let's make with the recommendations. Also, if anyone wishes to share >their database template, well you just go right ahead. I am particularly >interested in a system that would let me search large fields of notes >(possibly for sections of liners) sice I often need to search for things not easily >found in straight title,artist,label, etc.. fields. -- Gary S. Mattingly -- gmatting@dnai.com -- http://www.dnai.com/~gmatting # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) Funny Thought for the Day Date: 07 Aug 1998 08:54:08 PDT That's a new one on me, but I do recall using my gatefold lps, in my teen years, mind you, and winnowing stems and seeds from useful product. A very uncommon practice, I am sure. This was back when it was thought audio-cassettes were going replace vinyl and every Soundesign console came with an 8-track. >> >Who out there remembers putting a 45 on each ear and both wearing and >> >listening to your music at the same time? >> > >> >Robert ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Exotica Question List Date: 07 Aug 1998 09:06:16 -0700 (PDT) I can't believe that I'm doing this. This exotica list is very strange in a very wonderful way. 1. Are you a musician? No 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? In the 70's my Aunt Lou gave me Quiet Villiage by Martin Denny. My favorite memory of this album is when we went to Tikal, Guatemala around 1978. We took the speakers outside the van & played it really loud in the jungles of Tikal. We can't imagine what the tourists thought. I also recieved from my aunt Lou the great Maria Bonita album by Prez Prado and a collection of big band with the great Xavier Cugat doing his best song, Blen Blen Blen, with the marvelous Miguelito Valdez on vocals. Imagine seeing that version of the Cugie band live at the Waldorf Astoria around 1940. We still play Quiet Village every year when our Carnival Club toasts the mayor of New Orleans, this song plays in the background (before Chaquita Banana) 3. This list could help you more by... Convincing Vic or someone else> to keep Vic's Lounge alive. Viva Vic's Lounge! 4. Other exotica/things you collect- tropical Tiki clothes, statues, & other decorative things to wear on Mardis Gras day. I also collect exotica ornaments for my Christmas tree. 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like. I'm serious, here goes: I am now buying Indie Pop the most after exotica. However I still like Soca from Trinadad, Zouc, Oldies pop, Soucous, Compass, merengue, late 60's, early cuban music, Texas swing(Bob Wills is the King), late 60's early 70's country rock, disco, jazz, fusion(especialy Weather Report), classical(prefer vocals), early new age, early rap, early 80's & bluegrass. I know I left something out, oh yeah, Cowboy music & occasional alternative bands. 6. What are you just dying to tell us? I think all genres of music have some exotica in them. In other words exotica is in the ear of the beholder. 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs? Tell us more! I think that 78's have potentially the best sound quality, followed by 12 inch 45s &33, 45 singles, lps, 8 tracs, cassetts and finally cds. The big advances in sound have been convience. Cds are the easiesl to play and they don't skip, but they have a shorter life span then vinyl. 8. Own a fez? NO. other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Grass skirts on my head, shoulders and waist on Mardis Gras Day. 9. Shaken or stirred? Shake shake shake, shake shake shake, shake my.........Shake my........... 10. I clean my LPs with ...distilled water and an old disc washer brush. 11. My home page URL is: The exotica list is my home. 12. I have a Licence To ...get another Visa card to buy more albums. Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Collection Database Date: 07 Aug 1998 13:08:11 -0500 At 09:49 AM 8/7/98 -0400, you wrote: > >>So who's got a collectors database going? >Here's another thought: I'd love a db system that would allow me to easily >cut&paste intact track listings onto cassette labels. I do an awful lot of >taping & goofy label making. The Old-Time Radio site has a page of many Share- and Freeware cataloging and lable-printing programs, all downloadable directly from the site. One (or more) of them may work for y'all. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jasmine j jopling Subject: Re: (exotica) Collection Database Date: 07 Aug 1998 10:19:37 -0700 > >The Old-Time Radio site has a page of many Share- and Freeware cataloging >and lable-printing programs, all downloadable directly from the site. One >(or more) of them may work for y'all. I've found great resources for music collections on download.com. Generally, there's not much freeware, but lots of shareware and limited-time full programs. More options for pc's (as usual), but the Mac ones look really nice. -jasmine # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) Question List Date: 07 Aug 1998 13:28:38 -0400 > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... I have played piano, cello, bass, acoustic and electric, guitar and harmonica, in almost every case with enthusiasm outstripping technique. > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? A set of 78's of Yma Sumac owned by my Aunt and Uncle, Love for Sale or Thermopylae by Stan Kenton owned by my parents. > 3. This list could help you more by... Post those reviews! It's a great way to learn (although, some of you like some people more than I do!). > 4. Other exotica/things you collect My wife likes souvenir shot glasses, between the two of us we have about 700 videotapes, including Ferrante and Teicher playing on an Ernie Kovacs show (I just don't where that footage is!). > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like I listen to anything once. That's my motto. I am in a 60's Garage/R&B band now, and I collect Film Music, Jazz, Blues and still like my old ELP and Yes albums. Scary secret is my Rick Springfield "Bop 'Til You Drop" single, which I cannot blame on inebriation or impressing a date, because I happen to like parts of the song (it was a buck!). Even though I am predisposed culturally to dislike the many varieties of U.S. Southern accents (those were the ones I heard in the archival footage most and they were usually spouting racist bile), not only have I moved to the South, I have long enjoyed Western Swing and I bought a Hal Ketchum single. Music of almost any other country fascinates me and Classical Music, particularly turn-of-the-century Russians (Stravinsky, Rimsky-Korsakov, Prokoviev) is a lot of fun. I am, however, still pretty firm in my dislike of what hits the Top 40, if for no other reason it tends to homogenize or exclude a wonderful world of music to potentially wanting ears. The great thing about music is, no one said I had to pick. > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? Soylent Green is PEEOPLLLE...*Plop* > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality > consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs? > Tell us more! I am going to annoy somebody by saying I have no true preference. I have great sentiment and enjoyment of vinyl (have you seen my site?) I kvelled when they reissued Blue Note albums with extra tracks and they are smaller and when you move, boy is that a factor. I just wish that one had not supplanted the other. As for sound, if you bring up a good sounding CD I can find a great sounding LP. For those who forget the past, I can tell you about perfectly horrible sounding LPs from major labels. For those who think that CD's all sound better, there are lousy ones, too. There are some things that are being issued or reissued on CD that are not being issued on LP (which is a pity, however I can do little about it) and when done right, can be great fun. I have a CD here of the Pretty Things which contains the album "Get the Picture?" and also 13 minutes of archival footage! Can't do that on an LP! Imagine an Yma Sumac CD, with her appearance in "Secret of the Incas" or an interview. On the other hand, I can tell you the extent of damage that a 45 suffered when I tried to put it in my CD drive (it was NOT Rick Springfield. Leave me be about that!) > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? No, I don't. I feel that I don't look horribly good in clothes, fortunately there is a woman I know that sharply disagrees! So I married her. It was time to Fez the music and dance. >8a. Sorry? Yes. > 9. Shaken or stirred? I am both! Was you ever bitten by a dead bee? (There is a right answer to this, too!) > 10. I clean my LPs with ... A Discwasher brush and a dollop of love. > 11. My home page URL is: http://www.mindspring.com/~hagar or http://www.mindspring.com/~hagar/main.html if you wish to skip the first part. > 12. I have a Licence To ... Thrill, baby! Actually, Be a Christian Be a Motor Vehicle Operator Broadcast in the US. Spell it "License" but pronounce it "Licence". Brian "Your nickname here! Phone 555-1325" Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg Date: 07 Aug 1998 10:10:58 PDT >>What do people think of the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd anyway? >> >It is my favorite of the three collections. But you know Gainsbourg is such a genius... Are there any big Gainsbourg collectors out there >on the list? i think it's a marvellous cd, lots of hilarious franglais (that would make M. Jack froth at the gills) and faux american pastiches including that (fake) albinoni adaggio done as a jazz tune on the vibes. Unfortunately i'm not a big Gainsbourg collector, there just isn't a lot to be found in ireland. Which brings me to a story. The other week i was passing one of my favourite record shops and heard some serge coming from the speakers. the guy working was not the usual so i hoped i might pick up some serge vinyl for cheap. i shuffle in and flip through the records (got the fistfull of dollars / for a few dollars more soundtrack) and go up to the counter, as i'm paying i go 'hey that's serge gainsbourg isn't it?' he tells me he put the tape on as it attracted people in off the street, including the guitarist from sonic youth just the day before.... Basically old serge records are hard to find round here. yours covetously rob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: Re: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg Date: 07 Aug 1998 19:45:42 +0200 >It is my favorite of the three collections. But you know Gainsbourg is >such a genius... Are there any big Gainsbourg collectors out there on the >list? Not really, only a recent convert. I can easily hear Initials BB 50 times in a row. Anyone can pinpoint me to the original version of "Le Chanson de Slogan"? There's a cover by Blonde Redhead on that Gainsbourg volume of the Great Jewish Music series and it has some utterly mesmerizing chords. Curious how the original sounds like. Arjan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Collection Database Date: 07 Aug 1998 11:22:03 +0000 Lou Smith wrote: > The Old-Time Radio site has a page of many Share- and Freeware cataloging > and lable-printing programs, all downloadable directly from the site. One > (or more) of them may work for y'all. > > > > -Lou Thanks Lou... Hey While we are on the subject of old time radio, a GREAT RealAudio site is Yesterday USA - a 24/7 netcast station specializing in classic radio drama. Great Stuff! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) Funny Thought for the Day Date: 07 Aug 1998 11:32:56 +0000 > That's a new one on me, but I do recall using my gatefold lps, in my > teen years, mind you, and winnowing stems and seeds from useful product. > A very uncommon practice, I am sure. This was back when it was thought > audio-cassettes were going replace vinyl and every Soundesign console > came with an 8-track. Hehehhehhe... I hope you were being sarcastic about it being an uncommon practice. In my househlod (shared with three other college guys) we had a particular gatefolded Bob Marley album (I believe it was Rastaman Vibration) that was our designated "rolling" platform. But as stoned as I was, I NEVER hung 45's on my ears. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Funny Thought for the Day Date: 07 Aug 1998 15:05:12 EDT In a message dated 98-08-07 14:34:55 EDT, you write: << But as stoned as I was, I NEVER hung 45's on my ears. >> You don't hang um, you pull an ear thru the hole. You really need to try it. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Collection Database Date: 07 Aug 1998 12:23:45 -0700 At 01:31 AM 8/7/98 -0700, you wrote: > >So who's got a collectors database going? Me. Two, actually. Well, better make that four. All in MS Access. One is to list my cd's, the other is to list every song on each cd. The other two are the same but for vinyl, but they haven't been started yet. I wanted to finish the cd ones first. The cd list has the following fields: Artist name, cd title, label, cat#, year of release, remastering credits (whom and what studio, if available), and then try to categorize it, which I've limited to four fields. This database is completed. The cd song list has the following fields: Artist name, title of song, cd title that it came from, year the song was ORIGINALLY released (or recorded), songwriter(s), and the four-field category. This is a monstrous task. I've entered about 8000 so far, and I expect it to be at about 45,000 songs when completed. I have lots of compilation discs (which often don't list the year released or songwriter, so there's been lots of research involved), so it's pretty neat to put the database's artist field in alphabetical order to see how many songs I have by a particular artist, or the song list to see what songs were covered by different artists, or the songwriters different songs, making tapes specific by year, etc. I imagine the vinyl databases will be similar in layout to the cd databases, but I'm not going to think about it too hard till I finish the behemoth cd song list. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Funny Thought for the Day Date: 07 Aug 1998 15:16:11 -0400 >You don't hang um, you pull an ear thru the hole. You really need to try it. Yet ANOTHER activity outmoded by CD's! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: (exotica) Question List Date: 07 Aug 1998 14:08:28 -0500 1. Are you a musician? Explain.. Yessiree I am, I play guitar, bass, drums and anything else I can fake. I currently play in a group called the Gearginders (hence the name, Grinderman), and drums in an outfit called Drunkabilly. I also like to record tracks myself using a 4-track. Lately I've been composing some funky-porno-go-go-vamps. 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? My just deceased grandpa's Esquivel-Strings Aflame reel to reel. He had a dark/electonics room in his house and I would gaze in awe at all the hi-fi splendor, reel machines, movie and slide projectors. 3. This list could help you more by... It already helps, I've asked numerous questions about various topics and recieved well-informed answers. I've learned a hellava lot in the few short months I've been on exotica. 4. Other exotica/things you collect Records, of course, furniture, lamps, ashtrays, and anything else I can fanagle at the flea market. 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like I come from mostly punk roots, Ramones, Dead Boys, Johnny Thunders, Patti Smith. I'm also into a lot of psych/garage/rockabilly right on up to ABBA. 6. What are you just dying to tell us? UGGA BUGGA, BUNGA LUNGA WONGA!!! 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? LP. Sound and asthetic reasons, although I think cd's are a nessesary evil. 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Sorry, no fezes. I have a couple of swingin' pinstripe suits though. 9. Shaken or stirred? Yes. 10. I clean my LPs with ... Formaldahide and spit. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) A Swingin' Question Date: 07 Aug 1998 15:54:59 EDT Has anybody heard of West Coast Swing? My soul record detective (Mr. Eddie B) tells me that its a new black sound emanating from the left coast and that it's hot. I asked him to name some groups, songs. He said he know very little, but was going to hear a DJ this Saturday night somewhere on the north shore above Boston, and stressed that its more smooth and laid back than the Big Bad Cherry-Poppin' sound I referred to. He named one group, "Bad To The Bone" who have a song that is an excellent instrumental. It gets played as a show-ender for our weekly Disco-Dusty night at Il Panino on Thursday nights in Boston....Does anyone know anything about this sound??..Jimmy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: RE: (exotica) erotica Italia Date: 07 Aug 1998 15:58:19 EDT Other Music--15 E 4th St. NYC, NY 10003 (212)477-8150, wwwothermusic.com, fax-(212)477-8651--speak to Josh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) one of the signs of the Apocalypse Date: 07 Aug 1998 15:59:41 EDT Nat--the Mike Barnicle of the exotica digest ;-)) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Suspicious motives.... (& a landfill near you) Date: 07 Aug 1998 16:08:19 EDT the Larry Page Orchestra is excellent classy lounge/e-z with a baseline of Bacharachish wordless classy orchestrations for Saturday night dress-ups, and cocktails in elegant surroundings # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Jimmy's Easy" 8.3.98 Date: 07 Aug 1998 16:35:20 EDT "Jimmy's Easy" airs on WMBR-FM, Cambridge Tuesdays 6-8am -----Billy Taylor Orchestra-Theme From David Frost----- Living Trio-Flying Nun Theme-LP, LT plays TV & Movie Music Martin Denny-Thm Manchurian Candidate-LP Another Tst Hny Les Baxter-Voodoo Dreamer-UltraLounge Somebody-Crime Wave-CD Cafe Noir (Time Records Archives) Machito-Alex Mambo-CD, The Latin Vogue, UK Charly Henry Mancini-Senor Peter Gunn-LP Latin Sound Of Henry Mncni Henry Jerome-Shadow Of Your Smile-7" 45 on UA (now sound) James Taylor Quartet-Music To Watch Girls By-CD Loungpalooz Gloria Scott-(A Case Of) Too Much Lovemakin'-45 Casablanca -Walter Wanderly-Beloved Melancholy-LP Rainforest -Super-I Didn't Expect To Be This Tempted-CD Single (Finland) -Piero Piccioni-La Rai Si Perenta-CD Easy Tempo 5 -Les Elgart-Mar Cha Cha-LP Designs For Dancing -Manfred Minnich-Shopping Center-CD TV Dinners 60's Scamp -David Rose-Gay Spirits-Ultralounge Barry Gray Orch-Sting Ray-CD Barry Gray Orchestra Xavier Cugat-Its Not Unusual/Goldfinger-LP Feeling Good Ferrante & Teicher-Oh Calcutta-LP Getting Together Love Letter-Barbarella-CD Songs For The Jet Set Ventures-Theme From Charlie's Angels-CD Televentures Peter Thomas Orch-Moon Down-CD Raumpartouille Burt Bacharach-Something Big-LP Burt Bacharach Quincy Jones-Along Came Betty (Benny Golson-LP Body Heat La Yellow 357-Quelle Sensation Bizarre-CD Cocktail Shaker BR Orchestra-Mais Que Nada-Superstereo 6 (Plastic) -Ramsey Lewis-Jade East-LP Up Pops Ramsey -Sonny Lester-Salome's Veil-CD Exotica -Los Amigos Invincible-Cha Cha Borro-CD Los Amigos Invincib. -Euro Boys-Siamese Island-CD Euro Boys -Eliminators-The Saint-CD Surfbeat Behind The Iron Curtain -Mundell Lowe-Perry Mason-CD of TV Music -Family Affair-Black Belt Jones-Brit Comp of Blaxploitation -----Wayne Newton-Wives And Lovers----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Eldon Shamblin obit Date: 07 Aug 1998 17:04:04 -0500 TULSA, Okla. (AP) -- Eldon Shamblin, a guitarist whose fluid style and western-swing innovations helped create the classic sound of Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys, died Wednesday of heart failure. He was 82. Rolling Stone magazine called Shamblin ``the world's greatest rhythm guitar player.'' Musician magazine dubbed him one of the ``most important prime movers in guitar history.'' Shamblin contributed a jazz influence to the Texas Playboys, arranging such swing standards as ``San Antonio Rose'' and ``Faded Love'' before leaving the Wills band in 1959. After Wills' death, Shamblin kept the swing sound alive by joining a group called the Bob Wills' Original Texas Playboys. He toured and recorded with Merle Haggard from 1975 until the mid 1990s. He came out with his final solo album at age 80. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) fwd: Disc-O-Logue Date: 07 Aug 1998 17:24:14 -0500 Disc-O-Logue--French Language Popular Recording Catalog http://www.nlc-bnc.ca/discologue/ Can't remember who sang "La Machine a Laver"? Disc-O-Logue, the catalogue of French-language popular music recordings, has the answer for you. Disc-O-Logue, a music publication created by Louise Lamothe listing French language songs from Canada, France, and other parts of the French-speaking world, was available in Canada for LPs and 45-rpm discs from 1962 to 1979. The National Library of Canada acquired the Disc-O-Logue archive in 1986 and has converted part of the it, information on 90,000 songs, into a database which can be searched by song title, performer, composer, format, and label. In addition, the site features a gallery of album cover artwork, examples of best seller lists from 1963 to 1966, and a description of Madame Lamothe's process of creating Disc-O-Logue. BrowserTune 98 [Javascript] http://www.browsertune.com/bt98/ _Windows_ magazine's Fred Langa provides this site, a quick and easy way to test the capabilities of your browser. Nearly three hundred features can be tested via popup javascript windows so you can quickly see what features your browser supports. Tests are available in twelve major topics including foundation elements, graphics, tables and frames, scripting, speed, and security. The site is written in an easy-to-understand style and the tests function as a browser tutorial. Two older non-Javascript tests are also available. This is a marvelous way to find out the capabilities of your browser. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Chenault" Subject: (exotica) Yma Rocks!!! Date: 07 Aug 1998 20:34:36 -0400 Just wanted to let everyone know that the "Yma Rocks" CD is now available. This is a Limited Numbered Edition of 1000 and is available from the Yma Sumac Homepage at .......... http://www.accesscom.com/~pc/sumac/ Just recieved mine the other day and it is F-A-N-T-A-S-T-I-C!!!!!!! It is the authorized reissue of the famous "Miracles" album. All Les Baxter originals except El Condor Pasa. Yma Sumac backed by a rocking fuzz guitar rock outfit. It also includes 2 previously unreleased bonus tracks also written by the late great Les Baxter. Get them while they last kiddies!!!!!! Jeff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List Date: 07 Aug 1998 20:44:27 EDT Randi confessed: << >> 6. What are you just dying to tell us? that I am going to see Bobby Sherman, Peter Noone and Davy Jones in concert on Saturday. Also I once had a poodle named Barky. >> I think I can top that - on my birthday, last July 15, my wife and I took her neices, ages 5, 10 and 12 to see HANSON!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Auto Entry for Collection Databases Date: 07 Aug 1998 21:22:00 EDT << I've entered about 8000 so far, and I expect it to be at about 45,000 songs when completed. >> some one gave me a softwear program on a floppy disc about 6 months ago (that i lost somehow) that had a site that you could go to and it would automatically load the titles from a cd in you drive to the cdplayer config. file in your windows folder. has anyone heard of this. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) True confessions Date: 07 Aug 1998 21:46:52 EDT In a message dated 98-08-07 20:47:10 EDT, Basic Hip wrote: << Randi confessed: << >> 6. What are you just dying to tell us? that I am going to see Bobby Sherman, Peter Noone and Davy Jones in concert on Saturday. Also I once had a poodle named Barky. >> and then added: I think I can top that - on my birthday, last July 15, my wife and I took her neices, ages 5, 10 and 12 to see HANSON!! >> I don't know if mine beats that but I took my wife (for her birthday this past April) to see Vic Damone. Now we are in our mid thirties and I swear, we were the youngest ones at this rather large theater. After Randell's Esquire article about how the kids (i.e. 20somethings) were eating up Damone I thought we would at least see a few more people there with at least some remaning (or non-gray) hair. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) I love The Drake Date: 07 Aug 1998 21:51:31 EDT Someone - I can't remember who - turned me on to this Pete Drake steel guitarist awhile back. They put the tune "Ain't She Sweet" on a comp tape. I marveled at the puzzling technique he used to make his guitar "talk". Or at least if sounded like that. Not really sure how he did it - sort of like the sonovox in Sparky's Magic Piano or Rusty In Orchestraville. I stored the name Pete Drake in my memory bank and checked around for his LP's ever since. Never saw a one until I picked this up just today: Pete Drake "Steel Away" on Canaan Records, CAS-9640. Looks like mid 60's. Another Waco Texas religious label with THE FOUR GUYS backing Pete up on vocals. "Gospel Music At It's Best" with titles such as Happy Trails, What A Friend, When They Ring Those Golden Bells, The Eyes Of Jesus and Stairway To Heaven. Ain't She Sweet is not on this record, but I was pleased to hear that a number of tracks do have what must be his trademark technique of making his guitar "talk". File under Incredibly Strange Religious Music - right next to whistling Ralph Platt and Marcy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List Date: 07 Aug 1998 22:22:13 -0400 At 12:39 AM 07/08/98 -0700, Dave & LeAnn Davidson wrote: >>> 6. What are you just dying to tell us? >We're expecting a baby boy in December. Haven't decided on a name yet. >Suggestions? Heino. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Collection Database Date: 07 Aug 1998 22:22:20 -0400 At 09:49 AM 07/08/98 -0400, cook@pobox.upenn.edu wrote: > >>>Hey, by the way: My records are currently in NO PARTICULAR ORDER. I've got a friend who has all of his ten thousand or so albums in alphabetical order regardless of genre. I found that especially strange but apparently there are others like that. I have my records in approximately twenty categories. The jazz, country, bluegrass, blues, R&B and rock are each in alphabetical order. The other fifteen or so categories - which more or less make up the stuff we talk about here - are NOT in alphabetical order. My rationale - and it makes sense to me - is that when I want to play a jazz record, it's quite possible I might think to myself "How about Sonny Rollins?" so this way I can find Sonny Rollins easily. Whereas it's very seldom I think to myself "How about some Lenny Dee?". I might think "how about some cheesy organ" and so Lenny and Sir Julian and Eddie Osborne and George Wright etc are in a group together. I don' t really care about finding a particular record, just as long as I can flip through a bunch of them... so they don't need to be in any particular order. I know a couple of people who not only keep the records in alphabetical order but within each individual artist's collection, the records are in order of release. Makes sense I guess. And my favourite ever was the guy who had his records grouped together by the colour of the spine. Think about that one for a second. All the red spines together, moving to orange, then green... Unfortunately most spines are white and it also made finding records hell. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Collection Database Date: 07 Aug 1998 22:46:58 EDT In a message dated 8/7/98 10:24:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bruno@yhammer.com writes: > I've got a friend who has all of his ten thousand or so albums in > alphabetical order regardless of genre. I found that especially strange > but apparently there are others like that. My collection is also in strict alphabetical order with no regard to genre. Some things are just to hard for me to classify. However, a good stack of 100 or so LPs always stays unaplhabetized, as I am to lazy to immediately re- alphabatize after a listening session. Also, my 500 or so singles are not ordered in anyway (except I generally know which stack a certain 45 is most likely to be in) making finding them a real pain. I would also like to get ahold of the program that automatically lists any CD placed in the computer disc drive. I'd just listen to my collection over several years, and voila -- all would be catalogued! Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) top this, was: Question List Date: 07 Aug 1998 23:24:31 -0400 (EDT) At 08:44 PM 8/7/98 EDT, BasicHip wrote: > >Randi confessed: > ><< >> 6. What are you just dying to tell us? > that I am going to see Bobby Sherman, Peter Noone and Davy Jones in concert > on Saturday. Also I once had a poodle named Barky. >> > >I think I can top that - on my birthday, last July 15, my wife and I took her >neices, ages 5, 10 and 12 to see HANSON!! Nah, you'll top Randi in 35 years when you tell us then that you saw Hanson the previous week. -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Benton Reed Subject: Re: (exotica) I love The Drake Date: 07 Aug 1998 23:42:11 -0400 BasicHip@aol.com wrote: > Pete Drake "Steel Away" on Canaan Records, CAS-9640. Looks like mid 60's. > Another Waco Texas religious label with THE FOUR GUYS backing Pete up on > vocals. "Gospel Music At It's Best" with titles such as Happy Trails, What A > Friend, When They Ring Those Golden Bells, The Eyes Of Jesus and Stairway To > Heaven. FYI, Canaan is not "Another Waco Texas religious label." Canaan was the Southern (or country) Gospel label of Word Records. During the 60's and on into the 70's I would guess that they were the largest Christian record company. Most all of the stuff Word put out was top-notch. I seem to remember they were purchased by ABC in the mid-70's. Mark Reed Phenix City AL mbr@phenixcable.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: Re: (exotica) I love The Drake Date: 07 Aug 1998 21:59:40 -0700 Canaan records also has what is billed as the first Moog-Ssynthesized worship album... Geez I wish I could remember the name.... It's pretty deranged...musicially, there's nothing much to write the Pastor about, though. As I remember, there was a reference in the liners of how the Moog needed to be "approved" for worship before the deal could go down. Apparently, there was some opposition. The real payoff on that record was the cartoon on the back of the "conductor" asking the moogist (???) where the string section is while he puzzles over all the wires on the contraption. Heee HEEE, them Christians are blessed with HUMOR!!! > >Pete Drake "Steel Away" on Canaan Records, CAS-9640. Looks like mid 60's. >Another Waco Texas religious label with THE FOUR GUYS backing Pete up on >vocals. "Gospel Music At It's Best" with titles such as Happy Trails, What A >Friend, When They Ring Those Golden Bells, The Eyes Of Jesus and Stairway To >Heaven. > >File under Incredibly Strange Religious Music - right next to whistling Ralph >Platt and Marcy. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gary Mattingly Subject: Re: (exotica) Auto Entry for Collection Databases Date: 07 Aug 1998 22:15:16 -0700 Hello, Keep It Compact and other CD database tools on this page: http://www.cddb.com:80/downloads/index.html can link to the online cddb (cd database) and put in cd artist, cdtitle and track titles, if someone has already put them in the database. It is a very large database. Some of the players do the same thing, like CD Valet. Gary At 09:22 PM 8/7/98 -0400, you wrote: >some one gave me a softwear program on a floppy disc about 6 months ago (that >i lost somehow) that had a site that you could go to and it would >automatically load the titles from a cd in you drive to the cdplayer config. >file in your windows folder. > >has anyone heard of this. -- Gary S. Mattingly -- gmatting@dnai.com -- http://www.dnai.com/~gmatting # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Frank Sinatra & Antonio Carlos Jobim's 1969 LP on Reprise Date: 07 Aug 1998 17:05:01 +0200 des@anubis23.demon.co.uk (Desmond K. Hill) wrote: >can anyone assist in my search to uncover a reasonably priced vinyl copy of >Frank Sinatra & Antonio Carlos Jobim's 1969 LP on Reprise? exists on cd >if you haven't bought it by now, you really should locate a copy of >Perrey et Chazam's illustrious 'e c l e k t r o n i c s' lp ASAP. >it is incredible. but don't believe me, go check it for yourselves.. :) Jean Jacques Perrey is back, which on itself is great, although this LP is certainly not the best thing he ever did. Side A is more a novelty than a Moog record, full of musical jokes. The whole LP lacks good melodies. Instead of writing the melody first, and then playing it with lots of funny sounds, they seam to have worked the other way 'round, by chaining wacky sounds without hardly any melodic structure. Side B is the more serious side, with disco/house/technoid rhythms that might be too aggressive for the typical "old" J.J. Perrey fan, but then again, they might attract a whole new and young public. rated 3/5. The "eXotica Releases Overview": # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Keeping a list of Exotica URLs updated Date: 06 Aug 1998 19:57:59 +0200 ><< Keeping a list of Exotica URLs updated would be ongoing work, any > volunteers for that one? >> I'm _already_ doing it: collecting (and checking!) each URL mentioned on this list; my links page is updated several times a week; i've automated the whole thing, so it's not really hard work. "Linquarium": Johan quiet@village.uunet.be | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) upcoming Basta releases: Music out of the Moon and more.... Date: 06 Aug 1998 19:27:13 +0200 Basta said they're gonna release these _definitely_: Perfume set to Music - Les Baxter&Samuel Hoffman Piece of Mind - Billy May&Samuel Hoffman Music out of the Moon - Les Baxter&Samuel Hoffman and several others (that i don't know): >>The Unexpected - Raymond Scott >>Manhattan Research Institute - Raymond Scott >>Arthur Ebeling - Paris >>Beau Hunks Saxophone - Soctette >>Guido Nielsen - Plays Joseph Lamb >>Magnificent Seven - The Best of the Worst give them a thunderous applause, please! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael D. Toth Subject: (exotica) Impending Enoch Date: 08 Aug 1998 10:15:49 -0000 Hello again, Exotica listers: A reminder to folks that the transatlantic Enoch Light birthday memorial events in New York City, Kent (Ohio), Minneapolis, Columbus, and Glasgow Scotland will be happening during the next week or so. For more information on the events, visit: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~rcb/light/birthday/ Also, I'll be going on Zombo's Mondo Record Party Sunday night Aug. 9 on Akron's WAPS 91.3FM to promote the Kent event. For those of you into that sort of thing, the station DOES now have a live Real Audio feed (Go to http://www.wapsfm.com/ and select "Spinning Now"). I'll be playing a lot of the go-go/spy stuff by Enoch and his contemporaries that I'll be spinning at the party, as well as some cool E.L. material that wouldn't mesh as well into the live DJ event but is well worth playing. The radio show runs from 11 PM to 1 AM (Eastern) -- I know I'll be on the midnight to 1:00 block -- dunno if I'll be on the 11:00 hour too or not yet. Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) I love The Drake Date: 08 Aug 1998 12:00:44 -0400 At 09:51 PM 07/08/98 EDT, BasicHip@aol.com wrote: > >Someone - I can't remember who - turned me on to this Pete Drake steel >guitarist awhile back. Well I can't bother to go through all my records right now but Pete Drake plays steel on countless country records. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Mingo Subject: (exotica) Birds and Brass Date: 08 Aug 1998 10:15:21 -0600 If memory serves me correct, someone said they were after a Birds & Brass LP. I have found one in a local shop if anyone is interested. But...are there more than one Birds & Brass LPs? Because maybe this isn't the one you're after. I had a listen, and it didn't do it for me, but I have a few friends that are rather into B&B. Anyway, please get in touch ASAP and I can procure it for you. It was like =A36. And immaculate. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Planet of the Apes CD Date: 08 Aug 1998 16:13:36 +0200 Dave Davidson wrote: >the only one >I'd recommend, although I believe its NOT budget priced (prob around $15): >Planet of the Apes, Varese Sarabande, VSD5848, 1997 >I completely agree with the fact that this soundtrack is REQUIRED listening Think of carl stalling writing music for some serious thriller "cartoon", based upon scores written for him by bartok & stravinsky, instead of raymond scotts. Lots of drum accents and other outbursts of solo & group instruments. A little bit of special effects, lots and lots of (((echo))), and tempo changes. Moody, but not dark and certainly not harsh or atonal! Very entertaining, dramatic, depicts adventure, danger, mystery... This CD also contains a 16 minute suite (previously unreleased, it says?) of music from "Escape from the planet of the apes". rated 5/5 Johan quiet@village.uunet.be | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Frank Sinatra & Antonio Carlos Jobim's 1969 Date: 08 Aug 1998 11:34:38 -0700 At 05:05 PM 8/7/98 +0200, you wrote: > >des@anubis23.demon.co.uk (Desmond K. Hill) wrote: > >>can anyone assist in my search to uncover a reasonably priced vinyl copy of >>Frank Sinatra & Antonio Carlos Jobim's 1969 LP on Reprise? > > exists on cd Recently re-released 20-bit remastered. It looks like Reprise is slowly doing this with Frank's catalogue. I love when Frank sings "Da Guhl From Eep-uh-neem-uh" Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: (exotica) Night Stalker & Martin Date: 08 Aug 1998 11:51:01 -0700 Does anyone know if: there is a soundtrack issue (CD of LP) to the movie "The Night Stalker" (pilot movie for the TV series), 1971, music by Robert Cobert? there is a soundtrack issue (CD of LP) to the movie "Martin", 1977, directed by George Romero, music by ? Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: Re: (exotica) Impending Enoch Date: 08 Aug 1998 13:51:27 -0600 Hello all you in Exoticaland-- The transcontinental Enoch Light celebrations prompted me to do a bit of evangelizing that paid off unexpectedly today. Every Saturday The Lounge Show airs on K00P, an Austin community station. The impending Enoch celebrations prompted me to contact the host, Jay Robillard, and tell him about this lounge high holiday. We chatted and emailed and Jay promised he'd do something to honor the master. A lo, he doth celebrate today, playing several Command tunes throughout his program and yakking about Enoch's labels and musicians. Since I had an appointment, I heard only the intro tune (something from Faraway Places -- Enoch with harpischord!), but I'm told Enoch got his due throughout the program. I would've loved to work on a street dance but perhaps next year. At any rate, at least the guy got a few new fans deep in the heart of Texas. Maybe I'll regret this, since I've always found Command lps in the local thrifts. Nonetheless, thanks, Jay, if you're onlist. And thanks Michael and other listers for stirring (or was that shaking?) a tsunami of Enoch excitement. MimiM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, August 9 Date: 08 Aug 1998 18:24:48 -0400 "Space Bop" can be heard every Sunday at 4pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and is hosted by Brian and Cheryl. Space Bop features music ranging from Space-Age Bachelor Pad to Space The Final Frontier! Comments & questions welcome. Space Bop #10 - Acid? Jazz? Jack Marshall: The Munsters Theme "Ultra Lounge #13 - TV Town" (Capitol) Gert Wilden: Follow Me "Schulmadchen Report"(Crippled Dick) Riz Ortolani: Cani e Gatti "Mo'Plen 2000" (Irma) I Componenti: Zeppelin "Mo'Plen 3000" (Irma) Maurice Pop: Auto-Salon "Power Pop" (Motor) Eddie Caruso & The Five: Smoky "Mo'Plen 2000" (Irma) Peter Thomas Sound Group: Mao "Get Easy Vol. 4 - Germany" (Motor) I Componenti: Recital "Mo'Plen 3000" (Irma) A Certain Frank: Nobody? No! "Nobody? No!" (AtaTak) Amon Tobin: Sordid "Permutation" (Ninja Tune) Tipsy: Space Golf "Trip Tease" (Asphodel) Dimitri From Paris: Attente Musicale "Sacre Bleu" (Atlantic) Sukia: Gary Super Macho "Gary Super Macho EP" (Nickel Bag) United Future Organization: Nica's Dream "3rd Perspective" (Antilles) I Gres: Tropical "Mo'Plen 3000" (Irma) Mario Molino E I Beats: Operazione Beat "Mo'Plen 2000" (Irma) Al Caiola: The Mod Squad Theme "Ultra Lounge #13 - TV Town" (Capitol) cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Remove Date: 08 Aug 1998 18:31:23 EDT Remove # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ross Orr Subject: Re: (exotica) I love The Drake Date: 09 Aug 1998 01:22:34 -0400 >Canaan records also has what is billed as the first Moog-Ssynthesized >worship album... Geez I wish I could remember the name.... That would be _Ralph Carmichael Presents the Electric Symphony (The Moog Synthesizer)_, featuring Fred Warman programming and Clark Gassman playing the moog. My copy is on Light Records, "a division of Lexicon Music, Waco Texas." The songs are mostly Carmichael originals, not overtly gospel-ish--mostly innocuous pop-rock. I found side one pretty lacking in oomph, but side two brings up the rhythm section a bit and wraps up with a rousing Moog "Hallelujah Chorus." You're right, the liner notes are pretty interesting: "It's just possible that the transistorized ears of the younger generation will find the electical dynamics of the Moog very pleasing. . . " Phweeeeet Zeeeeeeerrrrppp, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) Hi There! / Question List Date: 09 Aug 1998 05:22:43 EDT Howdy y'all! I've been sorta lurking on the digest for a while, but i finally got my own account. 1. Are you a musician? Explain... yes. i have a band-Tipsy-that some of you may have heard. I also played in a lot of weird noise/electronic groups, and played trombone in high school. 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? actually, it was probably movies that did it; Japanese monsters & James Bond, also a lot of west coast "cool" jazz (stan getz, dave brubeck). I liked Cal Tjader & Henry Mancini way before i got into rock music and beyond. 3. This list could help you more by... remaining its beautiful self. 4. Other exotica/things you collect movie paraphenalia/videos, old trash paperbacks &men's magazines 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like old reggae, 60s asian pop, 40s-70s r&b, fake (and real) psychedelia, Harry Partch, vintage hillbilly stuff,indian soundtracks, krautrock, experimental/ electronic/ old-school industrial, selected punk & postpunk weirdness, some really painful 70s pop, i could go on forever... 6. What are you just dying to tell us? Mingo 2000 is my very favorite current"exotica" group also, I just heard a muzak version of boston's"more than a feeling" while i was eating indonesian food 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs? Tell us more! LP, of course. Less convenient, but a much better fetish-object. Besides, Alvin Cash and the Registers isn't available on cd. Actually, i like singles best- 45 or 78. 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or other lounge-wear of which you are proud? no fez. i have been acquiring a lot of tropical shirts. 9. Shaken or stirred? draft 10. I clean my LPs with ... old t-shirts. 11. My home page URL is: pretty embarassing right now. 12. I have a Licence To ... create music any way i see fit, PAL. have fun! dave gardner # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) I love The Drake + Weekend finds Date: 09 Aug 1998 14:30:31 +0100 >Canaan records also has what is billed as the first Moog-Ssynthesized >worship album... Geez I wish I could remember the name.... I have a wierd one called Caldara - A Moog Mass. This is moody, eery and frankly very depressing hyms and psalms through a vocoder with wierd moogy effects and droning medieval-type sounds. I haven't listened to the whole LP yet (in fact I haven't listened to one whole track yet) for fear of committing suicide. On a lighter note I got Timothy Leary's Tune In Turn On Drop Out soundtrack this weekend - fantastic, equally wierd sitar and spacey, unearthly voices galore - top! Also Pierre Henry's Machine Dance LP - typical Pierre but without any dancable tunes, just stupid noises And John Schroeder's 'You Make Me So Very Happy' LP - Dodgy cover and title but tight funky tunes all over. This LP has Ray Davies playing trumpet and is funky as hell. I think one track - Headband was on the Sound Spectrum LP # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Easy Tempo series, volume 7, Danger: Diabolik theme Date: 08 Aug 1998 19:44:46 +0200 Br. Cleve" wrote: >What a year from the Italians. The comps, the soundtracks, the Danger: >Diabolik theme sorry if i missed something, but is this track on Easy Tempo 7? Johan quiet@village.uunet.be | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (exotica) CD Database Programs Date: 09 Aug 1998 13:36:14 EDT Well I found the site but I have not attempted and installation yet. Here is the site: http://www.bfmsoft.com/ This program connects you to some database(s) that have the information on just about every CD out there (or so they claim). Is anybody familiar with this program? Also, have any AOL members out there upgraded to AOL 4.0? What do you think? Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elisabeth Vincentelli Subject: (exotica) Question List Date: 09 Aug 1998 15:45:27 -0400 Hello- I'm Elisabeth; I'm French and I live in New York. I've been on the list for a couple of months. 1. Are you a musician? Explain... I'm not a musician, but I often write about music for various magazines. 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? I can't remember anything in particular, but I've always had a fondness for soundtracks. Also growing up in France meant that "rock" was not the dominant music/aesthetic. Still, even there I was often considered a freak for my unabashed love of Jacques Demy movies (back when he was still considered cheesy) and the likes of France Gall and Michel Polnareff. 3. This list could help you more by... It works nicely as it is. It's easy enough to ignore the stuff that doesn't interest me, like endless discussions of how to clean things. 4. Other exotica/things you collect I'm not a collector of anything in particular. 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Post-punk records (e.g. Rough Trade in 1979-1981), garage old and new (looking forward to the Nuggets reissue on Rhino in September), vintage disco, and classic Broadway shows (Rodgers & Hart, Gershwin, Porter, Sondheim, etc.) 6. What are you just dying to tell us? Because a scaffold collapsed at the new Conde Nast building here in NY, I couldn't use my excellent tickets for the revival of Cabaret playing next door. It's just so easy to hate Conde Nast. 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs? Tell us more! I'd have to say CD for purely practical (storage, not having to flip them every 25 minutes) reasons. I do miss LP art though. 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Any music movement that requires its fans to wear a certain type of clothing is silly to me. (On the other hand I love it when bands dress up for shows. Combustible Edison looked fabulous yesterday at the Bowery Ballroom.) 9. Shaken or stirred? Blended. 10. I clean my LPs with ... non-static thingies, I forget what they're called. 11. My home page URL is: Don't have one. 12. I have a licence to ... Say anything I want for the next 4 years because France is soccer World Champion until 2002. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Byrnes Subject: (exotica) Arthur Lyman's "Love for Sale" Date: 09 Aug 1998 16:28:14 -0400 Perhaps not quite a thrift store find but came across a sealed copy in PERFECT condition of Arthur Lyman's "Love for Sale" LP (First American Records Piccadilly PIC 3543) from 1980 w/ 1. Love Song from "Mutiny on the Bounty" 2. I Wish You Love 3. Love for Sale 4. Pagan Love Song 5. Love 6. Love Is A Many Splendored Thing 7. Love Dance 8. Secret Love 9. To You My Love 10. Sentimental Journey 11. When I Fall In Love 12. It's So Right To Love $15 including 1st class postage insured w/in the U.S. ($25 airmail registered outside the U.S.) to first offer. Please confirm by private e-mail: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) Also Known As Date: 09 Aug 1998 14:52:35 +0000 Now, this doesn't surprise me (otherwise I wouldn't have checked in the first place): on independent budget labels, groups are often named differently on different albums. In the process of putting together hour 91 of The Mr. Smooth Show, "They All Played El Choclo," I came across two occurances of this phenomena. Let the buyer beware! The 101 Strings is also The Cinema Sound Stage Orchestra. I discovered this by playing El Choclo from "101 Strings Play Fire And Romance of South America", Somerset SF 22200. Because The Cinema Sound Stage Orchestra is also on the Somerset label, I was suspicious and played its version of El Choclo simultaneously with the 101 Strings version. The album "Award Hits", Somerset SF 34200 is identical in all respects. Did you also know that The Charles Camaron Orchestra is also The Mexicali Brass? I did the same thing comparing the Orchestra's recording "Spanish Rhapsody", Custom CS 1084 with the Brass's "Whipped Cream", Crown CST 471. Now, how did I think to know to compare these two performances on two different labels? The fact that both labels have the same address was not discovered until later. No, I just looked at the covers and noted certain stylist simularities. I have often thought that these indie budget labels did a couple of hours of recordings sometime in the early 60's and kept reshuffling the cuts and changing the name of the performers for new LP releases for the next decade! Anyone found any more less obvious performer name changes? By the way, because of this, I am short by 6 minutes (or so) in my programming. Anyone with suggestions for recordings of El Choclo I might be able to find? I don't have as many as I would like already (otherwise I might have have left out both of these performances). /- / '\ / ___> ; ; ; _ ;__ / \ [ | /"- / () | ) <}-___/_/(_|/ \_(__/\/| (_______ ___< -_/ Byron Caloz Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way http://www.hubris.net/zolac The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) more tv Date: 09 Aug 1998 19:54:15 -0400 Tangential exotica on US tv this week (eastern daylight times)... "Jazz On A Summer's Day" (1959) The time machine boards here. Documentary on the 1958 Newport Jazz Festival. Performers include Thelonious Monk (too brief, but he does have his bamboo-frame shades on), Dinah Washington, Gerry Mulligan, Anita O'Day, Sonny Stitt, Louis Armstrong (driving teenagers into a head-banging frenzy), many more. I forget the performers' names, but there's also a snippet of a combo in an attic room doing a rather exotic piece featuring a gong and such. Audience footage is great for people watching. Bravo - Tuesday - 4:30pm. "Reptilicus" (1961) The Danish monster-puppet movie that includes a leisurely visit to the Tivoli amusement park (discussed here recently). AMC - Thursday - 6:30pm. "The Killers" (1946) No exit film noir starring Burt Lancaster, Ava Gardner, Edmond O'Brien, Albert Dekker. Score by Miklos Rozsa. AMC - late Friday/early Saturday - 2:00am. "The Avengers: The Journey Back" (new) A documentary about the original TV series. It might be 2 hours long. I have no idea if it'll be any good. Patrick Macnee hosts or narrates. Obviously synced to the new movie. Has anyone seen that yet? A&E - Saturday - 9:00pm. "Criss Cross" (1949) Burt Lancaster gets used and abused in another bleak film noir; with Yvonne De Carlo and Dan Duryea. Has some nice location footage of (I guess) LA. Also a couple of cool Latin-jazz tunes in the nightclub scenes. Esy Morales is the name that sticks in my head as the performer, but that may be wrong. Body of the score by Miklos Rozsa. AMC - late Sunday/early Monday (Aug. 16/17) - 3:15am. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Larson/Thomas" Subject: Re: (exotica) Also Known As Date: 09 Aug 1998 17:40:21 -0700 > Anyone > with suggestions for recordings of El Choclo I might be able to find? I > don't have as many as I would like already (otherwise I might have have > left out both of these performances). Earl Bostic's dance-themed recordings include both "El Choclo Bossa Nova" and (I think) "El Choclo Cha Cha." Jerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Benton Reed Subject: Re: (exotica) Collection Database Date: 07 Aug 1998 23:47:01 -0400 Nat Kone wrote: > At 09:49 AM 07/08/98 -0400, cook@pobox.upenn.edu wrote: > > > >>>Hey, by the way: My records are currently in NO PARTICULAR ORDER. > > I've got a friend who has all of his ten thousand or so albums in > alphabetical order regardless of genre. I found that especially strange > but apparently there are others like that. My 600 or so albums are in alphabetical order by record label. I tried doing it alphabetically by artist, but I had so many soundtracks and compilations I got confused....Yeah, I know I'm weird...or am I exotic??? Mark Reed Phenix City AL mbr@phenixcable.net The difference between a lunatic and an eccentric is the size of the bank account. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Frank Sinatra & Antonio Carlos Jobim's 1969 LP on Reprise Date: 09 Aug 1998 13:25:16 EDT >>>>Recently re-released 20-bit remastered. It looks like Reprise is slowly doing this with Frank's catalogue.<<<< Reprise remastered all of the Frank catalogue in 20-bit back in 1995...and was released in the 20 cd box set. I have this 20 cd set, and must say the remastering sounds like Frank is in my room--along with Billy May! It's wonderful! Jayson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Easy Tempo series, volume 7, Danger: Diabolik Date: 09 Aug 1998 16:55:15 -0400 At 7:44 PM +0200 8/8/98, Johan Dada Vis wrote: >Br. Cleve" wrote: > >>What a year from the Italians. The comps, the soundtracks, the Danger: >>Diabolik theme > > sorry if i missed something, but is this track on Easy Tempo 7? No, it's on the Irma release "Ar