From: exotica-owner@xmission.com To: exotica-digest@xmission.com Subject: exotica Digest V2 #11 Reply-To: exotica@xmission.com Errors-To: exotica-owner@xmission.com Precedence: exotica Digest Wednesday, 10 July 1996 Volume 02 : Number 011 In this issue: Tomorrow's Cheese: Two Questions Re: HONEYMOON POLL Re: HONEYMOON POLL Second Try -- Hawaiian Music Re: HONEYMOON POLL Re: HONEYMOON POLL Re: Tomorrow's Cheese: Two Questions The Crime Scene - Hidden Track Re: Sequel CD series Herb RE: Sergio Mendes and Brasil '66 Re: HONEYMOON POLL Re: Herb Re: HONEYMOON POLL Re: Sequel CD series Re: Sergio Mendes and Brasil '66 Re: HONEYMOON POLL Re: exotica Digest V2 #10 The Next Collecting Trend Re: The Next Collecting Trend Re: PLACES TO GO - LOS ANGELES AREA Re: The Next Collecting Trend Comeback Collecting Re: The Next Collecting Trend Re: HONEYMOON POLL Re: Herb See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the exotica or exotica-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:51:48 -0400 Subject: Tomorrow's Cheese: Two Questions As I flip past the 500th copy (today) of Herb Albert's _______ (fill in the blank) I can't help but wonder what will be the most common cd's that will be collecting mould in thrift stores everywhere twenty years from now. Any guesses? I also wonder what musical trend will be rediscovered around that time , avidly collected by the true believers and then repackaged by the major labels and called a trend. Spoken word, maybe? ------------------------------ From: Martin Schildkret Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:07:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: HONEYMOON POLL On Tue, 9 Jul 1996 lee@anti.com wrote: > Get in the car and drive through small towns, maybe in the midwest, > and go to every thrift store we can find. > > What would you choose?????? Definitely the one above. Just make sure you have all the signs made up before you leave. "Lee Slept Here." :) ------------------------------ From: guinto@id.ucsb.edu (Marie Guinto) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:06:22 -0800 Subject: Re: HONEYMOON POLL > OK, so I'm getting married in October and we still haven't decided > where to spend our honeymoon, though we've narrowed it down to two > choices: > I would choose Tahiti, road trips tend to make me a little on the agro side. I think for a honeymoon you should relax, and have mucho drinks with umbrellas. happy honeymoon, marie ------------------------------ From: whitley@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Kirsten Whitley) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:12:43 -0500 Subject: Second Try -- Hawaiian Music Howdy People, I didn't get any answers to my first post about: Words, Earth & Aloha -- A documentary by Eddie Kamae about the roots and modern manifestations of Hawaiian Music. Since several of you exoticats out there live in Hawaii and/or collect Hawaiian music, surely someone knows about this film...? - --Kirsten ------------------------------ From: BriaN@rt66.com Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:04:54 +0000 Subject: Re: HONEYMOON POLL The Reply to lee@anti.com's Email on 9 Jul 96 > OK, so I'm getting married in October and we still haven't decided > where to spend our honeymoon, though we've narrowed it down to two > choices: > > Tahiti > > or > > Get in the car and drive through small towns, maybe in the midwest, > and go to every thrift store we can find. > > What would you choose?????? I'd take the 2nd choice, much much more fun, then goin to some hot tourist spot, were everyone is on a honeymoon or vacation. Besides who knows what really cool trinkits and friends you may find. good luck BriaN ------------------------------ From: Laurie Chase Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: HONEYMOON POLL Leeeeeee go to Tttttaaaahhhhiiiittttiiiiii Bali Hai is calling you . . . . It is, after all, your honeymoon. Laurie Chase Lounge ------------------------------ From: lee@anti.com Date: Tue, 09 Jul 96 16:19:11 PST Subject: Re: Tomorrow's Cheese: Two Questions Instructional records? Exercise records? Motivational tape sets? CHRISTMAS RECORDS.... ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Tomorrow's Cheese: Two Questions Author: exotica@xmission.com at INTERNET Date: 7/9/96 4:16 PM As I flip past the 500th copy (today) of Herb Albert's _______ (fill in the blank) I can't help but wonder what will be the most common cd's that will be collecting mould in thrift stores everywhere twenty years from now. Any guesses? I also wonder what musical trend will be rediscovered around that time , avidly collected by the true believers and then repackaged by the major labels and called a trend. Spoken word, maybe? ------------------------------ From: Bryan Jare Cuevas Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:22:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: The Crime Scene - Hidden Track Just picked up Ultra-lounge vol. 7 - "The Crime Scene". The CD lists 18 songs, but there are actually 19. Can anyone identify the song title and artist of this 19th track? Thanks bryan j. cuevas ------------------------------ From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:33:03 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: Sequel CD series > >Any opinions out there on the Dimitri from Paris album, which has some >wonderful moments . . .? > > >Yes, it is a pretty cool LP. This has been discussed recently though. Some of it is a bit obvious, but over all it is an extremely pleasurable collection of music. I am a notoriously fussy person about music. I think most of the Easy Project, Vampiros Lesbos, Sound Gallery stuff is extremely average, whereas most people seem to wet themselves over those, but Dimitri from Paris is light, beautiful, French, cocktail bossa jazz. Groovy without all the Hammonds. Mmmm... Jill Colloquium Internet ------------------------------ From: Paul Lewis Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:24:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Herb I'm sure that cheesy Herb Albert is laughing at us all. Judging by the MULTIPLE copies of EACH lp of his that I see in every damn thrift store I go to, he has GOT to be a multi-millionaire. Wish good albums were that easy to find. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Lewis lewis@netlab.texsci.edu Coordinator of Academic Computing (215) 951-2834 [office] Philadelphia College of Textiles and Science "We do it because we are compelled." -Alan Moore - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:44:37 -0600 (MDT) Subject: RE: Sergio Mendes and Brasil '66 > >"Those who enjoy SM & B 66 should check out Airto Moreira, especially the "Fingers" Lp, my personal favorite, more Brazilian and melodic than his other outings with jazz heavyweights. The recent "Best of Airto' budget cd has much of "Fingers" on it, incl" > Actually, there is a helluva a lot of good Brasilian pop music around. All of it is rather light and jazz and "easy" in it's own way. Check out Caetano Veloso, Gilberto Gil, Jorge Ben (writer of "Mas Que Nada"), Elis Regina...There is a Phillips "Personalidade" series that does rather nice compilations by these artists and many more including a lovely BOSSA NOVA compilation, which is where I first heard "Surfboard" (covered by ESQUIVEL). I started investigating Brasilian stuff because of Astrud and then SM & B 66. As for SM & B 66, I have the first LP, "Equinox", "Fool on the Hill", "Crystal Illusions", "Look Around", but I know there is at least one more original LP that is not a compilation. Anyone have it or know about the other 66 stuff. And yeah, the 77 stuff and later is a bit, erm.. well, not so groovy and the 65 stuff is rather straight jazz stuff. Thanks. Jill Colloquium Internet ------------------------------ From: Mike Ensley Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 20:28:54 -0500 Subject: Re: HONEYMOON POLL Lee, ESQUERLITA and I are to become married in December and we have been debating the same issue. I think we're going to go with the best of both worlds by renting a car and driving to Disney World's Ploynesian Village resort while stopping in every town in between to thrift. And of course while we are in the Orlando area, we WILL be going to Medieval Times... Mike Ensley PIGEONHOLE Magazine ------------------------------ From: jpmckay@cyborganic.net (Paul McKay) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 23:50:52 -0500 Subject: Re: Herb >I'm sure that cheesy Herb Albert is laughing at us all. Judging by the >MULTIPLE copies of EACH lp of his that I see in every damn thrift store I >go to, he has GOT to be a multi-millionaire. > >Wish good albums were that easy to find. > Good albums ARE that easy to find. They're the ones that say Heln Alpert's Tiajuana Brass Band on the cover : ) So sue me, I LOVE Whipped Cream and Other Delights. Ciao, Paul McKay jpmckay@cyborganic.net ------------------------------ From: LTepedino@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:33:33 -0400 Subject: Re: HONEYMOON POLL Definitely choose the most exotic of the two -- the Midwest.... you can go to Tahiti anytime but record shopping in the Midwest, now that's a one in a romantic lifetime trip that you don't want to do without the woman you are going to want to spend the rest of your life with. Ashley ------------------------------ From: LTepedino@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:37:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Sequel CD series Just out of interst there is a very prevelant sample of a Sound Gallery track which is the entire backbone of a track on the Dimitri From Paris album! Ashley ------------------------------ From: LTepedino@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:39:45 -0400 Subject: Re: Sergio Mendes and Brasil '66 If you are into the bossa nova stuff you'll definitely love the Walter Wanderley "Samba Swing" Cd that Irwin Chusid put together! Ashley ------------------------------ From: LTepedino@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:52:59 -0400 Subject: Re: HONEYMOON POLL Head further east to Ft Lauderdale to check out the Mai Kai restaurant - it outdoes Disney's Adventureland! While you are on the West Coast of Florida check out the fabulous Tiki Gardens at Indian Rock Beach. Ashley ------------------------------ From: "David J. Strauss" Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:09:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: exotica Digest V2 #10 > From: J P M > Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 01:39:14 +0000 > Subject: RCA Electronic Music Synth Album > > Does anyone by chance have or know where I can get "The Sound and Music > of the RCA Electronic Music Synthesizer. #RCA LM1922. I've been looking > for this one for years. I believe it is the one where a Speech Synth > Sings "Daisy". If you find it please send info to > > mugen@spacelab.net (or just Re:Mail) > > Thanks > Jason A computer sings "Daisy" on _Music from Mathematics_, Decca DL 79103. I own it and may be willing to give it up, but what's it to you? DS djs2852@is.nyu.edu ------------------------------ From: Craig Norton Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 23:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The Next Collecting Trend As much as I like many artists who are now considered exotica, I realize that record collecting has trends and cycles like most other hobbies. Exotica music of the late 50's to early 60's was the music of my parents (or your grandparents perhaps). At the time, it was the music that many of us were rebelling against. Why listen to Esquivel, Martin Denny or even Sinatra, when one could listen to Buddy Holly, the Beatles, or the great girl groups. When you are young, you can be more closed minded than you would care to admit (:-> If my memory serves me well, there was a folk revival that may have begun with the Kingston Trio's "Tom Dooley" in 1958. It probably peaked with Dylan prior to his going electric. Remember the Hootenanny? The folk crowd dismissed pop music as being juvenile and easy listening (read exotica) as being parental and irrelevant. What I am getting at here is that the next trend may be a true folk revival?? Truly unplugged man... Real music without artificial sweetening. So, lately I have been snapping up old LP's on Folkways, early Elektra, Vanguard, etc. whenever I find them. Very enjoyable! Becoming quite hard to find but the prices I have seen are still reasonable. Will the folk boom be the next one? Craig ------------------------------ From: transmat@teleport.com Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 23:47:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: The Next Collecting Trend > >Will the folk boom be the next one? > >Craig Remember the Washington Squares or Suzanne Vega? circa 1984? _____________________________ ~bleep~ ------------------------------ From: Rex Stocklin Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:28:27 -0700 Subject: Re: PLACES TO GO - LOS ANGELES AREA lee@anti.com wrote: > > While not a tiki bar, The Galley is a fine nautical/south seas > restaurant/bar in Santa Monica, that has been open since 1934. The > decor consists of trad hurricane lamps, brass portholes, fishnets and > the like. I've had drinks here many times and dinner a couple, though > both times we ate there the only thing we could afford was the pasta > plate. > > A sign next to the bar states that they have a Polynesian Review, > Fridays at 9:00 and 11:30, Saturday @7:30 (a buffet show) and Sunday > at 9:00 PM. > > The address is 2442 Main Street in Santa Monica, 310 452-1934 No thanx, we've been and its such a greasy dive, that no batch-pad soundtrack in the world could sway us to go back. For really cool Santa Monica jazz, try Typhoon, a pan-pacific rim eatery (it serves everything from szechuan to thai to vietnamese to phillipino to japanese to korean etc... in the bath of really cool yesteryear jazz, in a really neato art deco space on the tarmac of Santa Monica airport. Its at 3221 Donald Douglass Loop S. (bet Centinela and 23rd. you access it off of Ocean Park. This is no dive and expect moderate pricing avg per person = about $25 incl one drink, tax and tip.ph- 310-390-6565. They have just started a Sunday gospel brunch on par with the House of Blues'! Call for details. Godspeed, Rex William Stocklin Marina del Rey, CA ------------------------------ From: "D.J. Johnson" Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 01:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: The Next Collecting Trend On Tue, 9 Jul 1996 transmat@teleport.com wrote: > Remember the Washington Squares or Suzanne Vega? circa 1984? ACK! Suzanne Vega and her ilk didn't even kinda sorta amount to a revival, though. Somehow I don't see folk as the next revival, although I wouldn't bitch too loud about it if it were. I do have a fairly cool collection of Kingston Trio, Brothers Four, Weavers, Ledbelly, Guthrie, and Limelighters. Even a few New Christie Minstrel LPs. Here's one that'll never happen. Comedy records. At least I hope it doesn't, because I always want to be able to find great Firesign Theater records for a quarter in used bins. I've noticed that all the exotica I used to find for a dime is now in the 3.99 bin. ------------------------------ From: Paul Lewis Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 07:25:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Comeback I think that we are in an era now where everything old is 'cool' again. Consider this: 50's, 60's AND 70's clothing styles are all hip now... not only in the thrift/vintage variety, but these eras can all be found in current clothes stylings. All types of music are still alive and well today.... exotica, lounge-type (Harry Connick and the like), blues, punk, bare rock and roll, metal (just look at Metallica headlining Lollapalooza), etc... As for a major folk revival, I kind of doubt it. I think MTV's Unplugged series has sort of saturated the market. Along with Suzanne Vega, the Indigo Girls were also rather popular about five years ago. Even though Man or Astroman? and Stereolab are successful and thriving, I don't think we are in a major exotica revival, definitely nothing like the Green Day/Rancid/Nirvana/etc. 'neo-punk' revival of a few years ago. Maybe a major revival of anything isn't going to really happen since there are so many minor niche revivals of almost every style. The record industry seems vastly different than it was only five or ten years ago. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Lewis lewis@netlab.texsci.edu Coordinator of Academic Computing (215) 951-2834 [office] Philadelphia College of Textiles and Science "We do it because we are compelled." -Alan Moore - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Paul Lewis Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 07:28:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Collecting As for collecting... unless there already is one, maybe another look at the 'glam' era including the likes of T-Rex, Bowie, etc... I don't know what those records go for... they may already be highly collectible, but something tells me that they were probably printed in sufficient quantities. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Lewis lewis@netlab.texsci.edu Coordinator of Academic Computing (215) 951-2834 [office] Philadelphia College of Textiles and Science "We do it because we are compelled." -Alan Moore - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: erik@top.monad.net Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 07:17:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: The Next Collecting Trend Craig Norton writes: >What I am getting at here is that the next trend may be a true folk revival?? >Truly unplugged man... Real music without artificial sweetening. > >So, lately I have been snapping up old LP's on Folkways, early Elektra, >Vanguard, etc. whenever I find them. Very enjoyable! Becoming quite >hard to find but the prices I have seen are still reasonable. > >Will the folk boom be the next one? Personally, my feeling has been for some time that the next collector's revival will be with old hillbilly/country & western records. --Jon Johnson erik@top.monad.net ------------------------------ From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 06:36:18 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: HONEYMOON POLL Being from the Midwest, I would choose Tahiti. A lot of these small towns are pretty hit and miss for records. And the nightlife can be dull as dishwater. The weather is highly eratic. Humid and hot as hell in summer. Cold and colder in the winter. Tahiti should be very relaxing and romantic. Perfect for the honeymoon. Take your first vacation together as a married couple record shopping... Jill Colloquium Internet ------------------------------ From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 06:51:06 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: Herb Hey! Quit slagging off Herb. The man has had his moments. "Going Places" is a classic. And what about A&M??? That slick 60s/70s pop sound, incorporating some fine production. A sound that typifies an era. Sickly sweet, sure...but music and vocals that you can lose yourself in. The man was a genius! Jill Colloquium Internet ------------------------------ End of exotica Digest V2 #11 **************************** To subscribe to exotica Digest, send the command: subscribe exotica-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-exotica": subscribe exotica-digest local-exotica@your.domain.net A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "exotica-digest" in the commands above with "exotica". 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