From: exotica-owner@xmission.com To: exotica-digest@xmission.com Subject: exotica Digest V2 #13 Reply-To: exotica@xmission.com Errors-To: exotica-owner@xmission.com Precedence: exotica Digest Thursday, 11 July 1996 Volume 02 : Number 013 In this issue: Re: Herb Re: Herb tommorow's now today Re: 5000 Fingers Re: The Next Collecting Trend Re: HONEYMOON POLL Re: Sequel CD series(Dimitri from Paris) Comeback Re: Tomorrow's Cheese: Two Questions Re: Sergio Mendes and Brasil '66 Re: HONEYMOON POLL Re: The Next Collecting Trend Re: The Next Collecting Trend Re: Those ole' wigged wonders COMMON THRIFT-STORE ITEM #.... Re[2]: HONEYMOON POLL Re[2]: PLACES TO GO - LOS ANGELES AREA Re: Flight FINAL Re: Comeback Re: Tomorrow's Cheese: Two Questions Keeley Smith in Vegas Re: Barrence Whitfield Re: COMMON THRIFT-STORE ITEM #.... Re: Sergio Mendes and Brasil '66 sergio mendes and dmitri Re: Sergio Mendes and Brasil '66 Percussion All Stars See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the exotica or exotica-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Schildkret Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:15:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Herb On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Paul McKay wrote: > So sue me, I LOVE Whipped Cream and Other Delights. Still ranks as one of the greatest album covers yet IMO. ------------------------------ From: bob.frable@juno.com (Bob Frable) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 17:18:22 EST Subject: Re: Herb In exotica Digest V2 #11, I found the following: >>>BEGIN QUOTE - ------------------------------ From: Paul Lewis Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:24:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Herb I'm sure that cheesy Herb Albert is laughing at us all. Judging by the MULTIPLE copies of EACH lp of his that I see in every damn thrift store I go to, he has GOT to be a multi-millionaire. Wish good albums were that easy to find. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Lewis lewis@netlab.texsci.edu Coordinator of Academic Computing (215) 951-2834 [office] Philadelphia College of Textiles and Science "We do it because we are compelled." -Alan Moore - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>END QUOTE 1. texsci.edu = PHILADELPHIA TEXTILE??? I saw addresses like these for *years* and thought they were in Texas somewhere..... 2. Herb *ALPERT* and Jerry Moss (the "A&M" in A&M Records Inc.) =did= make a pretty penny when their label was sold to PolyGram. BOB FRABLE Easton, PA bob.frable@juno.com ------------------------------ From: Malcolm Humes Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:54:59 -0700 Subject: tommorow's now today sez HOUSEOBOB@aol.com: >Subject: The Next, Next , Next Big Thing > >What I really want to know is what part of our musical landscape NOW will be >rediscovered in CD form by our those people who are now infants. What do you >think? Personally, I'm hoarding as many AOL, GNN, and other "discover the internet" sample disks and CDS as I can; to me it's the equivalent of collecting ceral boxes or something and in a few decades we should have a good laugh looking at the packaging and the warez as the Internet/Web craze of the mid 90's becomes a retro nostalgia folklore thing. oh, you said music. The early/current Enhanced CDs and CD-EXTRA discs stand a good chance of being the Viewmasters of today in a few decades, assuming one can even find a vintage Win 95 PC or Mac then to run em on then... Speaking of nostalgia, I'm working on a new web site with pics of dozens of musical folks, Liberace probably the most Exotica but I suspect some of you might enjoy the other stuff too such as Viv Stanshall, Miles, Stones, Zappa, the Dead, Abbie Hoffman, Hatfield & the North and many more. A preview of Philm Freax is up at http://sunsite.unc.edu/mal/MO/philm/ - malcolm www.emf.net/~mal ------------------------------ From: "Lazlo Nibble" Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 17:01:09 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: 5000 Fingers >> "A while back someone posted that they'd seen a CD of the soundtrack >> from the Dr. Seuss film, "5000 Fingers of Dr. T." Does anyone know >> where this can be obtained? I live in the San Francisco area. > > Try the WFMU catalog...They have a website as well...(wfmu.org??) Last I checked, WFMU only sold the wax -- I haven't seen or heard of a CD. 'FMU is everywhere! I saw their Chris Ware T-shirt on someone's chest at the CBLDF party at the San Diego ComicCon last week and yesterday there was a letter to them on the counter at a local record shop... - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------ From: huge@SIRIUS.COM (David Bailey) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:14:38 -0700 Subject: Re: The Next Collecting Trend Next collecting trend: Novelty Rap records...Old country records...Promo CDs by English new wave bands...or maybe...Heavy metal picture discs...or....12" dance remixes of Cheesey 80's rock bands....or....HELP! David Huge Graphics http://www.sirius.com/~huge ------------------------------ From: Sassyodd@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:54:55 -0400 Subject: Re: HONEYMOON POLL clearly, the latter. are you by any chance a subscriber to Thrift Score magazine? It really is excellent and is dedicated to thrifting. anyone interested, i will post the mailing address. Tim. ------------------------------ From: J P M Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:57:26 +0000 Subject: Re: Sequel CD series(Dimitri from Paris) It's very nice at some parts (downright beautiful)but some parts are a little to "90"s (ie synth/drum machine wise).Its nice to hear French exotica/Bossa though ,wich I think is second only to Brazilian exotica/Bossa ). Jason the Pygmy Taxi Corp Music without Fear of Obsolescence ------------------------------ From: "Lazlo Nibble" Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 17:04:02 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Comeback > All types of music are still alive and well today.... exotica, > lounge-type (Harry Connick and the like)... What gets me is that Connick has dropped the Sinatra pose and is now touring as a funk act! - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------ From: Sassyodd@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:03:53 -0400 Subject: Re: Tomorrow's Cheese: Two Questions Speaking of cheese, I found a total stash of sealed 8-tracks yesterday including: Christmas Disco, Disco Soul, and Disco Rythyms on some generic label. Needless to say I picked up EVERY one. Also some nice albums. Included: Living Strings - Music to Stop Smoking ('64), Who? - an Organ Stop Pizza Record (circa '72) [very hilarious set of records put out by the organist at this pizza place in Arizona - has anyone seen these?] , it rules to be a thrifter! Tim. ------------------------------ From: Sassyodd@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:10:33 -0400 Subject: Re: Sergio Mendes and Brasil '66 hey Jill - The other '66 album is Herb Alpert Presents SM and B '66 (just found another copy yesterday for 20 cents!) As to later stuff, I was in a record store yesterday near Detroit (I live nearby) and they had a big SM section. The most gutwrenching of laughers was a SM and B '77 album that had the boys and girls dressed in cheap '70's soccer outfits on the front and on the back they were all bloody and bandaged. SM, however was smoking a big stogie and looked very Castroesque. I laughed until it hurt. They also had some of the Brasil '86 and '88 stuff which looks pretty silly, but I'll keep looking for it at less than premium prices. Where are you from, do they have good record stores or thrifts? always looking for more. Tim. ------------------------------ From: Sassyodd@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:13:58 -0400 Subject: Re: HONEYMOON POLL speaking of Tiki Gardens, I picked up a Irish Coffee style mug from a thrift with Tiki Gardens screened on it, including a great little gold tiki guy. It was my first Tiki item. Yea! Tim. ------------------------------ From: Sassyodd@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:26:27 -0400 Subject: Re: The Next Collecting Trend hell ya, look at Wierd Al, he's been doin' it since the late 70's and its getting bigger every day! Tim. ------------------------------ From: Brad Bigelow Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:18:45 -0700 Subject: Re: The Next Collecting Trend If volume in thrift stores is any indication, the next trend will be early 80s corporate/heavy rock. I can't believe how many Night Ranger, Eddie Money, and Journey albums clog the shelves. One source of a lot of what hits the thrift store shelves was the Columbia Record Club. I suspect many of the Andy Williams, Barbara Streisand, Ray Conniff, and Christmas LPs come from when our parents were suckered into joining the club. Which is why Martin Mull put the following line in his song about getting "Normal": ...We'll get our records through the mail, get a pair of lousy speakers ... Brad Bigelow bbigelow@netrail.net The Exotica Standards Page: www.netrail.net/~bbigelow/homepage.htm ------------------------------ From: Brad Bigelow Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:23:12 -0700 Subject: Re: Those ole' wigged wonders Anthony Jackson wrote: > > Has anyone out there heard of the music of one Charles Trenet? I've just > picked up a tribute to his songs by the Guy Luypaert and his Orchestra. > It's that light and occasionally oh so flip sort of classical exotica of > the type made famous by the infamous100 Strings. > > It certainly is a sub-genre of sorts, but when done well it does have its > charms. Can anyone recommend any more of this cheesy take on the classical > tradition? Trenet's "Beyond the Sea" ("La Mer") is among the Exotica Standards discussed in my Exotica Standards site (http://www.netrail.net/~bbigelow/homepage.htm) Trenet's "Boom" was featured in "Toto le Hero," a recent Belgian film, and many U.S. artists covered "La Mer." Brad Bigelow bbigelow@netrail.net ------------------------------ From: lee@anti.com Date: Wed, 10 Jul 96 18:33:17 PST Subject: COMMON THRIFT-STORE ITEM #.... Andy Williams "The Days Of Wine And Roses". For the most part, ick. However, it contains "I Can't Get Used To Losing You", one the best pop songs of all times (well...one of the best 100 or so) which is worth owning the album for. Boy, that double-tracked vocal!!! Anyway, the mono version is a nicer listen than the stereo one. This has to exist on 7", but I've never seen one...has any of you??? ------------------------------ From: lee@anti.com Date: Wed, 10 Jul 96 18:21:22 PST Subject: Re[2]: HONEYMOON POLL Would love the Thrift Score mag address. I've been buying records & such at thrift stores since 1969. My dad's drapery store was right across the street from "Value Village", near downtown Tucson. Value Village is still there, in the same location no less! Lee ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: HONEYMOON POLL Author: exotica@xmission.com at INTERNET Date: 7/10/96 5:26 PM clearly, the latter. are you by any chance a subscriber to Thrift Score magazine? It really is excellent and is dedicated to thrifting. anyone interested, i will post the mailing address. Tim. ------------------------------ From: lee@anti.com Date: Wed, 10 Jul 96 18:26:36 PST Subject: Re[2]: PLACES TO GO - LOS ANGELES AREA lee@anti.com wrote: > > While not a tiki bar, The Galley is a fine nautical/south seas > restaurant/bar in Santa Monica, > No thanx, we've been and its such a greasy dive, that no batch-pad soundtrack in the world could sway us to go back. >>>I DIGRESS! Don't listen to him folks, The Galley is a fine little hang (Otto Von Strohiem from Tiki News would agree with me on that). It is a very non-trendy place that has been around forever (the best kind)! My fiance and I make trecks from Burbank to Santa Monica just to have a drink there!!!! Lee (what happened to the margins) Joseph! ------------------------------ From: misant@ic.net Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 22:58:39 -0500 Subject: Re: Flight FINAL >Chris Strouth wrote about: > >>>>> and silly spoken word stuff like Flight F I N A L > > >I HAD this record and some loser stole it from me! > >My friends and I took the whole A-side of the record and sampled it >over the Velvet Underground's "I Think I'm Falling In Love" run >backward at half speed over and over. > >It would send the unrepentant screaming out into the night. > >Most powerful thing this side of Rev. Jack Van Impe! Ain't nobody who does it better than Jack. Still a regular watcher of his tv show. Ooooh, and that Rexella. I'm personally hoping that the next trend is preacher albums. Me, Jack, and Bob Harrington would have a grand old time. The apocalypse is a comin'! David ------------------------------ From: ninja@marin.or.jp (Dominic Al-Badri) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:22:35 +0900 Subject: Re: Comeback >Even though Man or Astroman? and Stereolab are successful and thriving, I >don't think we are in a major exotica revival, definitely nothing like >the Green Day/Rancid/Nirvana/etc. 'neo-punk' revival of a few years ago. > >Maybe a major revival of anything isn't going to really happen since >there are so many minor niche revivals of almost every style. The record >industry seems vastly different than it was only five or ten years ago. > > Have to say I agree with you there Paul. Even magazines which used to be as terminally dire as Tower Records' Pulse (Hey! I live in Japan and English-language music mags are hard to come by, so cut me some slack OK?), seem to have managed to find a certain hipster quotient. The ubiquity of the CD has meant that it is now financially viable for small record companies to stick out re-releases of relatively obscure stuff. Fat Mattress revival anyone? Dominic Al-Badri (ninja@marin.or.jp) - -------------------------------------------------------- Blessed are the self-righteous for they are always right. Dominic Al-Badri ninja@marin.or.jp ------------------------------ From: Mike Ensley Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 00:37:33 -0500 Subject: Re: Tomorrow's Cheese: Two Questions >, Who? - an Organ >Stop Pizza Record (circa '72) [very hilarious set of records put out >by the >organist at this pizza place in Arizona - has anyone seen these?] , >it rules >to be a thrifter! Tim. I figured I was the only one in the world who bought the Organ Stop records... I scored that one, a Slim Goodbody, US of Archie and a Zacherele record all in one day... Thrift Stores are GOD! Mike Esnley PIGEONHOLE Magazine ------------------------------ From: "Thomas F. Duda, Jr." Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:54:37 -1000 Subject: Keeley Smith in Vegas Thanks for the Vegas info...made it to the Smith show (she ended up halving it with her fiance)...it was truly wonderful...did ole black magic, etc...only disappointment was theNeil Sedaka song she did...if all vegas lounge acts were that good I would live there... ################################################## # Tom Duda Kewalo Marine Laboratory # # duda@hawaii.edu 41 Ahui Street # # 808 539-7311 Honolulu, HI 96813 # ################################################## ------------------------------ From: "kevin king" Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 02:41:22 -0500 Subject: Re: Barrence Whitfield > What I really wish someone would do is champion a Barrence Whitfield > movement. Yeah. I saw BW with the Savages once years ago here in DC and it was a blast! A real party of a show. Were the Savages just a temporary outfit? (this was in the mid to late 80's) kevin king xanadu@radix.net http://www.radix.net/~xanadu ------------------------------ From: Brad Bigelow Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 05:19:05 -0700 Subject: Re: COMMON THRIFT-STORE ITEM #.... lee@anti.com wrote: > > Andy Williams "The Days Of Wine And Roses". For the most part, ick. > However, it contains "I Can't Get Used To Losing You", one the best > pop songs of all times (well...one of the best 100 or so) which is > worth owning the album for. Boy, that double-tracked vocal!!! Anyway, > the mono version is a nicer listen than the stereo one. This brings up an interesting point. While most space-age pop and exotica were recorded to exploit the channel separation capabilities of stereo, most pop singles were engineered to sound best in mono. After all, the primary media for pop/rock until the early 1970s were AM radio and the mono suitcase record players most kids had. That's why many of the stereo rereleases of early Beatles, Motown, Phil Spector's singles, and other 60s pop sound so bad. Brad Bigelow bbigelow@netrail.net ------------------------------ From: mingo@cqm.co.uk (Jill Mingo) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 04:53:05 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: Sergio Mendes and Brasil '66 Tim, No, the Herb Alpert presents LP is the one I refered to as SM & B66, the first LP. There is ANOTHER one. I have seen it years ago. It exists, but must be a bastard to find. I hoped someone on the list would know about it. As for thrift stores, I live in Glasgow, Scotland, and they are not worth mentioning!! I am originally from St. Louis, where you can still pick up a lot of good stuff cheap, but the UK is NOT a good place for thrift stores unless you like bad Orchestral arrangements of the pop hits yesteryear. Which a lot of people do over here. That is what I refer to as "cheesy listening". Thanks anyway! Jill Colloquium Internet ------------------------------ From: jbr109@psu.edu (jordana) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:35:23 -0400 Subject: sergio mendes and dmitri My favorite Sergio Mendes is pre-66, but not too straight jazz. It's called "In the Brazilian Bag" and is by the SM _Trio_. It has the debut of the song "So Nice' that later became a samba standard. This Dmitri in Paris thing: is this a new album or a reissue. Is it the Dmitri from Deee-Lite? Has anyone seen revised tour dates for Yma Sumac? _____________________ jordana robinson jbr109@psu.edu image & direction www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157 _____________________ ------------------------------ From: "kevin king" Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:15:13 -0500 Subject: Re: Sergio Mendes and Brasil '66 > There is ANOTHER one. I have seen it years ago. It exists, but > must be a bastard to find. Is it Ye-Me-Le? Or is that a later release. I remember seeing this more than once in thrifts, never picked it up. But if I remember correctly, it's by SM & Brazil '66. kevin king xanadu@radix.net http://www.radix.net/~xanadu ------------------------------ From: Jeff Boyd Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:13:40 -0700 Subject: Percussion All Stars I know I've brought this up before, but does anyone on this list have anything by the Percussion All Stars on Modern Records? Very good stuff. Unfortunately, I have only been able to find one of their two releases on Modern. The one I'm looking for, "Dynamic Percussion", seems impossible for me to find. Does anyone on the list have this LP? It's not very valuable, but I'd be willing to pay a decent price for it. Thanks a lot! Jeff Boyd boyd@csus.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "That's a nice shirt!" 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