From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #238 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Thursday, October 29 1998 Volume 02 : Number 238 In This Digest: (exotica) Hi-Fi Jazz goes to the movies Re: (exotica) Michel,belle!] Re: (exotica) Jim Flora Gallery (exotica) Re: sushi 4004 LP, Fantastic Plastic Machine Re: [Nat Kone: Re: (exotica) Michel,belle!] Re: (exotica) moog continued (exotica) Michel,belle! Re: (exotica) Michel,belle! Re: (exotica) Michel,belle! (exotica) Happy Birthday Headphones (exotica) New Site Location (exotica) 2nd try: Beachcombers Alert Re: (exotica) St. Frances E./Psychic T.V. Re: (exotica) Happy Birthday Headphones (exotica) Playlist-House of Games (exotica) Zinds! What Finds! (exotica) New Site Location (exotica) It The Terror From Beyond Space! Re: (exotica) St. Frances E. Re: (exotica) moog continued Re: (exotica) Michel,belle! (exotica) Beachcombers Alert Re: (exotica) moog continued (exotica) New releases (exotica) Re: McKuen: Beatsville (exotica) Re: don't buy sushi 4004 LP! (exotica) Tiki Halloween in Los Angeles ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:03:03 -0600 From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Hi-Fi Jazz goes to the movies At 11:31 AM 10/28/98 -0500, She Of Many Names wrote: >Don't you just love it when your favorite Hi-Fi Jazz combos show up in >motion pictures? What's out there? We know Shorty Rogers and Shelly Manne >are in MAN W/GOLDEN ARM, Gerry Mulligan in I WANT TO LIVE, and Chico >Hamilton Quintet in THE SWEET SMELL OF SUCCESS... >Your turn, talk to us! >Jane "Susan Heyword" Fondle Is Raymond Scott "Hi-Fi Jazz"? If so, here's a filmography: 1938 Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm 1938 Happy Landing 1937 Nothing Sacred 1937 Ali Baba Goes to Town 1937 Love and Hisses 1938 Sally, Irene and Mary 1941 Soundie "War Dance for Wooden Indians" 1941 Soundie "Huckleberry Duck" (RS Orchestra) Welcome back LL/J"SH"F!! - -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:27:22 -0000 From: Jonny Perl Subject: Re: (exotica) Michel,belle!] > My first Michel Legrand record was STRINGS ON FIRE. On the surface, it's > just another lush, string-laded exotica record. But the strings are SO > HEAVY and they attack with such "verve" (can I use that word?) that the > record is elevated out of the pack. ~Is this the American version of "Violent Violins"? No, and they are very different records. I think 'strings on fire' is late fifties. The sound is slightly less harsh and more thick than on violent violins, although as Nat says, the sound is very intense. A friend of mine has 'violent violins', and it is because of this that I know of its existence, and that it came out as part of the uk issue mercury living presence series (late 60s or early 70s?). But I have been trying for years to buy my own copy, and have never even found confirmation that it exists. I guess it must be gold dust since attention was drawn to it by the 'inflight entertainment' compilation... regds Jonny # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:31:24 -0500 From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Jim Flora Gallery At 10:11 PM 10/27/98 +0000, bag@hubris.net wrote: >Now, if someone would do the same thing for some of the other great album >cover artists. I'm kind of surprised I haven't read the name David Stone Martin on this list yet. I know that people "collect" his record covers. I have a few. I wish I knew something about design or the history of design so I could back up my contention that DSM was way way ahead of his time. I've never looked for a website dedicated to his covers; I guess I should. I skimmed the Jim Flora site and was surprised that I didn't find any covers that I owned, even though as other people have said, the style is almost instantly familiar. Does anyone want to tell me who influenced who? Who came first? DSM or Jim Flora? Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:59:51 +0100 From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: sushi 4004 LP, Fantastic Plastic Machine >From: "Jill Mingo" >Actually, when you know the track, it really isn't very hard to figure = >out how to play it. OK, sorry if i over-reacted, but so please tell me how to play it. thanx! as for the music: Where 3003 was essentially EZ and ISM dressed up as modern - be it nostalgic - smooth pop, 4004 is much more contemporary club DANCE music: lots of hard beats and samples, trip hop and whatever modern dance music is called these days. If you like everything by P5, Jimmy Tenor, Towa Tei, EasyTune et al., then this is something for you. But if Tipsy is more than modern enough for you, then you probably won't like it. I didn't anyway. But I loved 3003! So much that i spent months and months trying to track down full albums by selected featured artists - without success alas... Johan quiet@village.uunet.be | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:38:00 -0500 From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: [Nat Kone: Re: (exotica) Michel,belle!] At 01:41 PM 10/28/98 GMT, Peter Hipwell wrote: > >> My first Michel Legrand record was STRINGS ON FIRE. > >Is this the American version of "Violent Violins"? Does it have "Come >Ray and Come Charles", "Motor City" and "Due Gue Ding" (not sure of >the exact name of that last one). Because if so, I second the >recommendation. It has a great cover pic as well, a leather clad woman >with a mini-whip in her mouth surrounded by violins. It's not the same record, no... but I'm starting to wish it was. Don't think I have any whips or SM references of any kind on any of the record covers I own. (Except maybe this Richard Hayman one and that looks more like date-rape than SM.) But no, the tunes on this record are all recognizable (exotica) standards like Tabu, Jezebel, El Choclo, Perfidia, Temptation... (And who's got the all-Perfidia tape while I'm at it?) Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:18:11 +0000 From: des@anubis23.demon.co.uk (Desmond K. Hill) Subject: Re: (exotica) moog continued > Think of it what you want. > Reasonable people may want to compare the rhythm track > (drums,guitar and bassline) of "Jericho Jerk" from > Messe pour le temps Present (by Pierre Henry/Michel Colombier,1967) > and "Cat in the Night" from Mood Indigo (J.J.Perrey,1970). > ...etc... > Jarre studied with Pierre Schaeffer of the GRM and I > believe also Perrey had some contacts with thes guys. y v e s Thank you for your interest in the career and creativity of Jean Jacques Per= rey. * Being a 'reasonable person' I did attempt a comparison: increasing and decreasing pitches, trapping and playing 4-bar loops to colleagues, isolating certain key phrases and sounds, etc. I found them to be ..__very.__ different tracks. * This may be because I returned to the original, and earliest avaiable pressings of the tracks that I possess: 'Jerico Jerk' (Pierre Henry et Michel Colombier) features on Les Yper Sound (Fontana 7" EP, France 1967) whilst 'Cat in the Night' (Pat Prilly, Dene Mann, Andy Badale) features on 'Moog Indigo created by Jean Jacques Perrey' (Vanguard LP, USA 1970). * The difference may also be because the players on 'Cat in the Night' include Buddy Rich on drums, possibly then at the height of his distinctively heavy-handed playing; Vinnie Bell on guitar, creating as individual a style as his home-built effects units could cultivate; and a little known Italian arranger called Andy Badale, who later changed his name to Angelo Badalamenti. Perrey, of course, played Moog and other keys. * You are however correct to suggest that Perrey was exposed to Pierre Schaeffer's compositions, in France in the late '50s. If I may quote an excerpt from a piece copyrighted and first published in May 1996: [At the age of 30 Perrey relocated to New York, sponsored by Caroll Bratman who built for him an experimental laboratory and recording studio. Hidden amongst the theatres and show houses of Ninth Avenue, Perrey invented "a new process for generating crazy rhythms with sequences and loops." Having witnessed Pierre Schaeffer's elaborate artistry at first hand, and hearing huge loops of sound, Perrey chose to edit his repetitions into quirky compilations of rapid rhythms. Utilising the environmental sounds of musique concr=E8te, he created the LP 'Musique Electronique du Cosmos' in 1961, with just two tape machines linked together.] * Jean Jacques Perrey and Pierre Henry have both designed and delivered dynamic pieces of music that have crossed the generation gap, to have a contemporary relevance. I hope, in their remaining years, that both will continue to be encouraged to design equally as innovative and imaginative works. I believe it unreasonable to make accusations that they would never make themselves, and unreasonable to expect them to answer. Still, I would like to thank you for this opportunity to exchange e-mails and learn a little more. Merci. d e s # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:02:58 EST From: ChuckTFrog@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Michel,belle! >Here is a question that has vexed me for years, yet I haven't posed >it...HOW COME NOBODY ON THIS LIST TALKS MUCH ABOUT MICHEL >LEGRAND! Yes, I >am shouting, from the hilltops Maybe it's because he's not really an "exotica"-type artist, at least not most of the time (except perhaps in the sense that a high degree of musical competence is exotic). I had the pleasure of touring w/Michel in the summer of '74, and as road-weary and jaded as my sideman bones were at that time, it was an incredible, possibly transcendental experience to listen to Legrand play with the orchestra every night (he traveled with a conductor)--especially a moment at the end of a medley, the last chord of "windmills of Your Mind", when the orchestra would hold this huge G minor (very dark) chord & M.L. would begin a 15 minute cadenza of themes and variations that took the audience on a musical tour through centuries of classical, pop, jazz, ragtime, etc styles. We did maybe 30 or more performances and what he played was COMPLETELY DIFFERENT every night!!!! It was positively masterful. The man is a genuine genius in a world of pretenders IMO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:23:09 GMT From: Peter Hipwell Subject: Re: (exotica) Michel,belle! > From: Jonny Perl > > ~Is this the American version of "Violent Violins"? > > No, and they are very different records. I think 'strings on fire' is late > fifties. The sound is slightly less harsh and more thick than on violent > violins, although as Nat says, the sound is very intense. A friend of mine > has 'violent violins', and it is because of this that I know of its > existence, and that it came out as part of the uk issue mercury living > presence series (late 60s or early 70s?). But I have been trying for years > to buy my own copy, and have never even found confirmation that it exists. Those albums are really hard to find. I've got 5 or 6 of 'em, out of 30 or so (maybe more?). And I've never seen duplicate copies of any of them (other than the sampler album). I think they're late 60s, judging on the existence of one which entirely consists of covers of the songs from "Sgt. Pepper". - -- Pete H. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:41:02 +0000 From: Hugh Petfield Subject: Re: (exotica) Michel,belle! Jane Fondle (great to have you back here Laura!) wrote: >>HOW COME NOBODY ON THIS LIST TALKS MUCH >>ABOUT MICHEL LEGRAND! Chuck added: >The man is a genuine genius in >a world of pretenders IMO I'd agree entirely. Try and find his 70's album "Themes and Variations". If you like Michel Legrand, you'll probably also go a bundle on the work of the late Roy Budd. He's probably best known for his score for the cult movie 'Get Carter', but his other material, especially jazz with an orchestra, is unbelievable. Jill M. and others in the UK, I can recommend the Sequel CD 'Rebirth of the Budd'. We've got Laura back. Huzzah! Now, can we trace Jessica? Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:01:43 -0600 From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Happy Birthday Headphones October 27, 1998 All Things Considered Requires the RealAudio Player - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- An index of the day's stories: Stereo Headphones -- November will mark the 40th anniversary of the development of stereo headphones. Linda talks with John Koss, the man who invented the headphones. He was a young jazz musician looking for a better way to listen to music when he got the idea for stereo headphones -- and his invention changed the way that people listen to and use music. (4:30) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:16:00 -0800 From: Jack Subject: (exotica) New Site Location Hey everybody, I have a new url for my KFJC site AND it's under construction so gimmie a break, will ya ???!!! Rock on; http://www.jackdiamond.to/houseofgames Thank you! Jack "So that's it Pops, Santa did shout, and he buttoned his cashmere, and quickly cut out. Pops was wiggin' and he was out of his head, to dig this wild character who wore all the red." (Babs Gonzales: ("The Be Bop Santa Claus" circa 1955) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:18:25 -0600 From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) 2nd try: Beachcombers Alert (I tried posting this in the morning. Did it get lost at sea? Pardons if it turns up twice. Anyway...) Don weren't the *only* Beachcomber. Check out this site. Better'n any flea market advice site! - -Lou Subject: Cool Fact: Ocean Refuse - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Learning Kingdom's Cool Fact of the Day for October 28, 1998 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- What kind of man-made stuff is floating in the ocean? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Millions of objects have been lost at sea over the years! Single accidents have released 500,000 cans of beer, 29,000 yellow ducks (and other bathtub friends), 80,000 Nike sneakers, 5 million Lego toy pieces, and hundreds of thousands of rubber sandals. In addition, at any one time there are millions of chunks of trash and other objects, and fifty or more abandoned vessels, all floating free, carried by the currents on the open ocean. Each year, thousands of these items wash ashore on beaches around the world. Some people study their patterns of distribution, which can reveal much about currents and ocean circulation. When an accident releases a vast number of items, special alerts go out to beachcombers, who watch for them and report the time and place where each object is found. The Beachcomber's Alert, with great stories about mysterious finds: http://www.beachcombers.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:03:39 -0800 From: "super k. riot" Subject: Re: (exotica) St. Frances E./Psychic T.V. i dunno about Frances E... but psychic T.V. was a wierd industrialish band that was famous for making wierd music. they tried to make music that would somehow release the endorphins in your brain. i dunno too much about it but the main guy in psychic tv was Fred Carter,he became famous as a "performance artist" cutting his dick, and slicing his body up for the sake of art. you can probably find psychic tv records at punk rock/industrial record stores if you're in L.A. check out Vynil fetish(hollywood) Arrons Records(hollywood) and Green Hell(sherman Oaks) cy ken # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 23:45:18 -0500 From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Happy Birthday Headphones >An index of the day's stories: > >Stereo Headphones -- November will mark the 40th anniversary of the >development of stereo headphones. Linda talks with John Koss, the man who >invented the headphones. He was a young jazz musician looking for a better >way to listen to music when he got the idea for stereo headphones -- and his >invention changed the way that people listen to and use music. (4:30) Aha! All questions are eventually answered here. I asked about the early days of stereo headphones in Summer '97, and here it is. So now we know that it's around 1958 that records mixed for headphone listening become a possibility. Thanks. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 23:03:28 -0800 From: Jack Subject: (exotica) Playlist-House of Games KFJC play list 10/11/98 for Jack Diamond ARTIST TRACK ALBUM _______________________________________________________________ The Planets Chunky Clifford Brown Septet Joy Spring Pacific Jazz W/ Bob Gordon-Bari Zoot Sims-Tenor Russ Freeman-Pno Stu Williamson-Trbn Carson Smith-Bass Shelly Manne-Drums Ayers, Roy Aragon Coffy Stanley Myers Main Title Kaleidoscope Ost Free Design Make the Madness Stop 1967, Enoch Light Boogaloo Joe Jones Someday, We'll Be Prestige, 1969/70 Together! w/ Chas Earland-Organ Rusty Bryant-Tenor Russ Garcia Orch Lost Souls of Saturn Fantastica Frank Hunter Orch White Goddess Ondioline Nordine, Ken Yellow Colors Green Electric Piano- Good Vibrations Bell Records Playground Peter Thomas The Oblisk of Karnak Chariots of the Gods Waters Mother Samuel Psych Exp Vol 2! Al Caiola Mod Squad Theme Augusto Martelli M O O D Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill! The Break [coll]: Russ Meyer's Hugh Le Caine Mobile 1970, Electronics Leith Stevens Orch Havana Interlude Pr Hell 36 Ost Lord Sitar I Am the Walrus Ennio Morricone Nobody Is Faster My Name Is Nobody Jay Chattaway Mannequin's Revenge Maniac Ost Maniac's Theme In Like Flint/Our Mince & Cook Till Tender Soundtrack Lou Hoffner Trio Harry in Orbit 45 Rpm, Single Jerry Goldsmith Manhunt The Prize Ost Phil Moore Orch Watch Your Step, Please N.Y. Sweet Group One Brothers Go to Mothers Request! Armando Travajoli Rocking Horse 7 Golden Men Harry Roche Spiral Easy Project Mort Lindsey Orch Kerouzzzzzzzzzy, Man! Roulette The Blues Swingers Outskirts of Town Prestige, 58 Lois Cooper-Female Seduction, Side 2 Art Sound Label Greg Oliver-Male A Frantic Bruising Kiss; 1961 Dr Billy Rogers-Copy A Mending Tongue; Del Staton-Elec Gtr The Resilliant Breast Is- Swollen Beyond Belief Dick Hyman The Man From U.N.C.L.E. O.R.G.A.N. Robert Cobert A Darkness at Collinswood Dark Shadows Boris Karloff The Fortune Teller Stereo, Vol 2 Victims of Chance Break Away Crestview Bernard Herrmann Prelude Que From DTEST Paul Tanner With; Sunrise/Moonlight Music for Serenade Heavenly Bodies Andre' Montero Orch Ken Nordine Moth Ken Nordine: Indians Robert Shure's Lampshades T W I N K Rick Horton Solar Emissions Don Sebesky/ Larry Coryell Guru-Vin Gene Page Satin Soul Tongue Mind Blower Tongue Pete Rugolo Diamond On The Move KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 http://www.KFJC.org http://www.jackdiamond.to/houseofgames/ http://www.jackdiamond.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 02:21:39 -0500 From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) Zinds! What Finds! So I went to L.A. and had a nice time. Here is what I picked up, although I haven't had the chance to listen to much. 1303 e-mails can do that to a fella. Some highlights: 1. The Museum of Television and Radio - I saw footage of Tom Lehrer on the Frost Report and here is a question: I saw a video compilation of what were called "Scopitones", which I guess were shown in theatres. Great style to these music videos and I was told one was Johnny Hallyday, however, the other was a group singing a song called "The Chunga Twist". Who could that group be? No refs in All Music or doing a metacrawler search. "Do you wanna do the cha-cha? No!!" 2. On the way to the museum, a gentleman asked for some change. I told him I did not have any, which was the truth and that I was living off my charge cards for the time being. His suggestion: "Then let's go into that restaurant and you can charge me a sandwich". I demurred. Whatever did I buy, though? Zounds! What Sounds! - Dean Elliott and His Swinging Big, Big Band. Yippee-I-O-Ky-ay. I was to happy to find this, albeit in Mono. Woody Herman - Children of Lima Showtime at the Drumbeat - Features an alternate and livelier version of the Chi Chi Merengue by Eloise (sorry King Kini!). I had to put the copy of the "Eloise Trio" back for lack of funds, sob, sob. Arthur Lyman's Greatest Hits - I now have his fabulous version of "Afro Blue"(thank you King Kini!) Hi-Fireworks - Ferrante and Teicher. Finally, I have a recording of them a-plucking the piano. This one was Three dollars. The History of Space Age Pop, Vols 1 and 3. (Thanks Irwin Chusid). If I had to pick a favorite, though, it's volume 2 for me. My "Quiet Village" - Darla Hood. Couldn't resist. It's a vocal version! I also saw a picture sleeve of Juan D. Peron. Oof! Brian Phillips http://www.mindspring.com/~hagar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:16:00 -0800 From: Jack Subject: (exotica) New Site Location Hey everybody, I have a new url for my KFJC site AND it's under construction so gimmie a break, will ya ???!!! Rock on; http://www.jackdiamond.to/houseofgames Thank you! Jack "So that's it Pops, Santa did shout, and he buttoned his cashmere, and quickly cut out. Pops was wiggin' and he was out of his head, to dig this wild character who wore all the red." (Babs Gonzales: ("The Be Bop Santa Claus" circa 1955) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:38:48 -0600 From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) It The Terror From Beyond Space! At 10:18 AM 10/28/98 +0000, Darrell wrote: >The music for It! was by old reliable Paul Sawtell (who also wrote >music for The Fly, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea and many others) >and Bert Shefter. To the best of my knowledge, there was never a >soundtrack release. A search at http://www.filmscoremonthly.com turns up the following releases for Paul Sawtell: Label Number Title Composer Conductor Format GNP Cres GNPBX-3009 Voyage to the Bottom of the Se Sawtell, P. T 6CD(4) 96 Todd S-5001 Big Circus, The Sawtell/Shefter Graunke, K. F LP(1) 59 Fox S-3026 Dog of Flanders Sawtell/Shefter F LP(1) 59 Cacophon CLP-1001 Kronos Sawtell/Shefter F LPL1) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 04:30:40 EST From: Tipsydave@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) St. Frances E. Can anyone tell me about Frances E. Dec? Was he a real person? You can find out all his "fans" know at http://www.teleport.com/~dkossy/schzwing.html and then look around-the kooks museum is pretty damn inspiring. - -dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:33:31 +0100 From: Yves Dewulf Subject: Re: (exotica) moog continued >> Think of it what you want. >> Reasonable people may want to compare the rhythm track >> (drums,guitar and bassline) of "Jericho Jerk" from >> Messe pour le temps Present (by Pierre Henry/Michel Colombier,1967) >> and "Cat in the Night" from Mood Indigo (J.J.Perrey,1970). >> ...etc... >> Jarre studied with Pierre Schaeffer of the GRM and I >> believe also Perrey had some contacts with thes guys. > > * Being a 'reasonable person' I did attempt a comparison: increasing and > decreasing pitches, trapping and playing 4-bar loops to colleagues, > isolating certain key phrases and sounds, etc. I found them to be > ..__very.__ different tracks. > > * The difference may also be because the players on 'Cat in the Night' > include Buddy Rich on drums, possibly then at the height of his > distinctively heavy-handed playing; Vinnie Bell on guitar, creating as > individual a style as his home-built effects units could cultivate; and a > little known Italian arranger called Andy Badale, who later changed his > name to Angelo Badalamenti. Perrey, of course, played Moog and other keys. I still think both tracks are at least very similar. In my opinion Perrey took a small excerpt of Jericho Jerk, looped it, slowed it down and maybe filtered it a bit. (After all this is the same method as used in his plopping and hissing musique concrete rhythm tracks) Then it's possible he added some live musicians playing against that bassline. I should reinvestigate my records to be sure if it was a loop from the original or it was just all replayed by live musicians. In both cases I guess you could call it a prehistoric "sample", a quote from another work used in the creation of something new. > * Jean Jacques Perrey and Pierre Henry have both designed and delivered > dynamic pieces of music that have crossed the generation gap, to have a > contemporary relevance. I hope, in their remaining years, that both will > continue to be encouraged to design equally as innovative and imaginative > works. I believe it unreasonable to make accusations that they would never > make themselves, and unreasonable to expect them to answer. I didn't mean to accuse J.J.Perrey for doing this. Au contraire ! Maybe he was the first person to use a sample in pop-music. Which is by far a greater honour (IMHO) than the fact he would have written that catchy bassline himself. To put some more oil on the fire: doesn't the last track on Moog Indigo : Passport to the future , sound a bit like Telstar by the Tornados ? Maybe it's just all great Music !!! YVes # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:57:55 +0000 From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Michel,belle! If anybody's interested, I just got a record dealer's new list through the post yesterday. Violent Violins is included but it has a very hefty pricetag. If you think you want it, email me and I'll send the dealer's details. Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:59:57 -0600 From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Beachcombers Alert Don weren't the only Beachcomber. Check this out! - -Lou Subject: Cool Fact: Ocean Refuse What kind of man-made stuff is floating in the ocean? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Millions of objects have been lost at sea over the years! Single accidents have released 500,000 cans of beer, 29,000 yellow ducks (and other bathtub friends), 80,000 Nike sneakers, 5 million Lego toy pieces, and hundreds of thousands of rubber sandals. In addition, at any one time there are millions of chunks of trash and other objects, and fifty or more abandoned vessels, all floating free, carried by the currents on the open ocean. Each year, thousands of these items wash ashore on beaches around the world. Some people study their patterns of distribution, which can reveal much about currents and ocean circulation. When an accident releases a vast number of items, special alerts go out to beachcombers, who watch for them and report the time and place where each object is found. The Beachcomber's Alert, with great stories about mysterious finds: http://www.beachcombers.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 98 11:22:35 -0000 From: bsalter Subject: Re: (exotica) moog continued >>>> HENRY, PIERRE-Messe Pour Le Temps Present >>> >>> Parts of this album were "sampled" by JJ Perrey on >>> a track of his Moog Indigo album. >> >> That simply is untrue. None of Pierre Henry's work features on ..__any.__ >> of Perrey's compositions. An opinion presented as fact remains an opinion. >> >> d e s > Umm, at his lecture / demo in SF last week, JJP specifically mentioned having 'sampled' that album! He knew Schaeffer, Henry, et al, at the time... he had studied musique concrete with Schaeffer, and near the end of his studies, announced to his teacher that he wanted to use the techniques to create 'electronic pop' music, to which Schaeffer pompously replied, "You will NEVER succeed!" ;) - -Brian ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Brian Salter bsalter@slip.net www.slip.net/~bsalter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:48:56 EST From: RLott@aol.com Subject: (exotica) New releases Up and coming discs of interest to this list, culled from various sources... JUST OUT *Stereolab: Aluminum Tunes (Singles) (Drag City, two-disc set) NOVEMBER 3 *The Look of Love: The Burt Bacharach Collection (Rhino, three-disc set) *The Best of Schoolhouse Rock (KidRhino) *More from the Burt Bacharach Songbook (Varese Vintage) *International Pop Overthrow (various artists, Del-Fi) *Mission Accomplished: Vol. 2 (Hip-O) *Sci-Fi's Greatest Hits (TVT, four-disc set) NOVEMBER 17 *Ben Folds: Fear of Pop (Sony) -- Ben's solo experimental record, said to be influenced by Air. Includes vocals from William Shatner on one cut *Delphonic Sounds Today: Del-Fi Does Del-Fi (Del-Fi) -- Wondermints and other artist cover classic exotica and surf NOVEMBER 24 *Burt Bacharach: One Amazing Night (N2K) -- album of concert shown on TNT earlier this year, includes Ben Folds Five, Chrissie Hynde, Sheryl Crow, Barenaked Ladies, Dionne Warwick, others TO BE RESCHEDULED ... AGAIN *Sid & Marty Krofft: H.R. Pufnstuf and Other Greatest Hits (Interscope) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:10:11 +0100 From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: McKuen: Beatsville >From: "Arjan Plug" >from Forced Exposure: > >MCKUEN, ROD: Beatsville CD (P22 006). "Reissue of the classic 1959 LP. >First time ever on CD........ great news! please tell us, Arjan: what is "Forced Exposure"? sounds like a Schwarzenegger movie to me ;-) do they have a web site? where is this cd for sale? thanx! Johan quiet@village.uunet.be | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:44:08 +0100 From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: don't buy sushi 4004 LP! >From: Bissia >Hi Johan, maybe the pressing you've got is bad ! >Also, when a groove is stucked in vinyls ; it maybe a little >fly shit to remove, or just give the cells with a finger hit, yep, thought of that too, but how do i know? there are clear darker grooves at those places where the needle sucks, so there is something intended here, but what? and no, there's no fly shit on it ;-) hitting the needle, sure, but then you miss some parts of the music; increasing the weight of the stylus didn't work either... Johan quiet@village.uunet.be | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:40:26 -0800 From: Jane Tunks Subject: (exotica) Tiki Halloween in Los Angeles For all you exoticats in the Los Angeles area, please come to our party. And wear a costume, godammit. SHORE LEAVE ON ZOMBIE ISLAND A Costume Party for Lost Souls AT BAHOOKA Halloween, 8pm - 1am FREE! The ghost ships have dropped anchor, and it's time to party with the bloated corpses of the drowned. Welcome to Zombie Island, a Cacophonist never-never land of malaria-ridden whorehouses, evil mojo, and swell drinks. By day, we call this place Bahooka's Rib's and Grog, and if you've never treated yourself to visit, you've never seen what is surely California's greatest remaining monument to Tiki Kulture. It's a wild shipwreck of a place -- a colossal labyrinth of dark cubbyholes overhung with tangled masses of nautical curios and rusted beachcombing finds. The sole illumination comes from the occasional blowfish lamp and the dim glow of more than 150 aquariums -- a fittingly murky setting for drowning oneself in the resident witch doctor's concoctions served up in ceremonial vessels, some with straws well over a foot long. Arrive early, order a flaming bowl and meditate on the dancing blue light, or commune with the fishes swimming dizzy circles inside the glass-topped bar. Soon you'll note a fog rolling in along with legions of zombies, pirates, whores, and headhunters. You find yourself jostled by roving buccaneer musicians, and shrunken-head salesmen, dragged in by the beat of native drums, lost in a devilishly crafted soundtrack of sea-sick exotica breaking up on rugged reefs of Mau Mau guitar, and swirling into black-lagoon mambos. Make your way back to the banquet room, and catch some classic zombie movies or sample our Cannibal Buffet. Yeah, you're gonna love it here on Zombie Island. And all it'll cost is one pitiful soul. (Free, if you've lost yours.) Costuming: Prizes for the best and most appropriate. Also, if you're young enough to require ID, please remember that you'll need to preserve some resemblance to your DMV photo if you want to sample the forbidden nectar of the gods. Where: Bahooka, 4501 Rosemead Blvd. in Rosemead, 10 minutes from downtown Los Angeles, just south of Pasadena. (E. on 1-10, N. on Rosemead Exit) Map: http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=4501+Rosemead+Blvd&csz=Roseme ad%2C+CA&Get+Map=Get+Map Info: (213) 694-2478. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #238 *****************************