From: owner-fractdev-digest@lists.xmission.com (fractdev-digest) To: fractdev-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: fractdev-digest V1 #37 Reply-To: fractdev-digest Sender: owner-fractdev-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-fractdev-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk fractdev-digest Saturday, December 9 2000 Volume 01 : Number 037 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 19:37:52 -0600 From: "Jonathan Osuch" Subject: Re: Fractint and Windows ME Morgan, > makefcfg doesn't know what to do > with my NVidia RIVA TNT, but that's okay, the default .cfg works fine > up to the card's maximum 1600x1200 res. That's interesting! I've never gotten NT to work at a resolution higher than 640x480. And the setup I have available at work (an ati card) doesn't even do that. Jonathan - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 19:31:54 -0600 From: "Jonathan Osuch" Subject: Re: Fractint bugs of the month I have a fix for the bug with type=circle and inside=startrail. Bit of a brut force solution. If type=circle and inside is set to startrail, it is now reset to 0. I finally remembered to add my fix for Xfractint that corrects a problem with the cellular type. If you used the space bar with cellular you'd get a segmentation fault. While I was mucking about with Xfractint this week I noticed that trying to use the <2> screen (or <@>) results in a segmentation fault. This is one of those problems I have fixed in my Allegro port. I'll try to remember to look at what I did. Jonathan - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 02:52:41 -0600 From: "Scott D. Boyd" Subject: Re: Proposal for restructuring of Xfractint's Makefile On Friday 01 December 2000 20:02, you wrote: > > Hmm, your having said that reminds me that I've changed the Makefile I use > to compile the source in the current directory and put the executable there > as well. That is also the Makefile that is in the developer's version of > the Xfractint source, since I have forgotten completely about replacing it > with the Makefile out of the last official release. Oops! > I looked at the Makefile in some old Xfractint source packages. In the oldest one I had (20.0.8): SRCDIR=/usr/src/xfractint. I see where you changed that to SRCDIR=. in version 20.1.03. Did you realize that some versions didn't even contain a Makefile? It was missing from at least 20.0.15 and 20.1.0, maybe more. > > The problem is getting Xfractint to look in two different directories. One > can be set in sstools.ini. The other, at this time, would have to be hard > coded. This may already be the case, since I mucked up my Makefile a long > time ago. > The Makefile just uses SRCDIR variable for installing the files, so I would hazard a guess that the directory to search thru is hard-coded somewhere in the source code. (I haven't looked at the souce code in earnest in a long time...) But I'll look into that. > > I'm all for that. Give some thought to Makefile settings for developer's > and perhaps to a system administrator. Will do! Scott - -- sdboyd56@swbell.net http://home.swbell.net/sdboyd56/ - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 06:46:46 -0600 From: "Jonathan Osuch" Subject: Re: Proposal for restructuring of Xfractint's Makefile Scott, > I looked at the Makefile in some old Xfractint source packages. In the oldest > one I had (20.0.8): SRCDIR=/usr/src/xfractint. I see where you changed that > to SRCDIR=. in version 20.1.03. Did you realize that some versions didn't > even contain a Makefile? It was missing from at least 20.0.15 and 20.1.0, > maybe more. That would be my doing, also. I need to work on automating the process of zipping up the source files. Jonathan - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 11:17:53 -0600 From: Tim Wegner Subject: Re: Updated float only and xfractint A week ago Jonathan wrote: > We need to think about how we want to archive these sources. > Either put > them in subdirectories of /ftp (public) or put them under /fractint > (private). My preference would be for putting them under /fractint to keep > them private, but I don't have any good reason to do it that way. I just downloaded everything at the web site. The files directory is getting very cluttered, I think I'll move the old stuff to a subdirectory to make it easier to find the current files. As far as the experimental code is concerned, given the much lower profile of our project, I see little or no reason to keep even very rough sources private as long as they are well marked. I know you have expressed the preference to keep them private, which is OK with me. However if you change your mind, we could make another subdirectory for experimental stuff. You may be taking the brunt of maintenance requests these days. If this is a problem for you, this is the one reason I see for keeping the code private (to prevent getting maintenance queries about the code). Otherwise, public is better, you never know when some curious but shy soul who could help might download it and contribute, though they might never ask for it. And with busy people like Rich, he needs to be able to get his hands on it while he's thinking about it :-) Since you are doing the lion's share of the work these days, this is your call. Tim - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 11:17:53 -0600 From: Tim Wegner Subject: Re: Formula parser Jonathan wrote: > I tried to compile/assemble the compiler version of the formula parser and > it will no longer assemble. The ALTER_RET_ADDR macro in parsera.asm tries > to push the address of past_loop, which isn't defined anywhere. When I first read this note last week, I had misunderstood what you were talking about. Now I see. You are referring to the define that changes the formula parser to self-modifying code. For those that don't know, the virtuoso Intel assembler programmer Chuck Ebbert placed some defines in the fractint formular parser code that essentially "compiles" the formula code in a buffer. This increases the speed even more. When you run a formula, Fractint just executes the code in the buffer. There are lots of reasons we never used this code. 1. Chuck is the only one who understands it. 2. The code is dangerous since there are not good protections against the compiled code overflowing the buffer. 3. If memory serves, it was not that much faster than the regular assembler parser anyway. I believe Chuck himself was of the opinion that this was not a good idea. As far as I am concerned, we can edit out any compiler- specific code. The parser assembler (non-compiler version) has a very limited future anyway. It is possible we could port the assembler to Linux assembler (I am not opposed to this though last time "assembler" and "Linux" were mentioned in the same breath here, we got howls of protest :-), but if we don't port the code, it does not have a future. Tim - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 13:15:16 -0600 From: "Jonathan Osuch" Subject: Re: Updated float only and xfractint Tim, > As far as the experimental code is concerned, given the much > lower profile of our project, I see little or no reason to keep even > very rough sources private as long as they are well marked. I know > you have expressed the preference to keep them private, which is > OK with me. However if you change your mind, we could make > another subdirectory for experimental stuff. Okay. I need to zip the latest Allegro source and then upload it. Complaints about not being able to save truecolor images will fall on very deaf ears. > You may be taking the brunt of maintenance requests these days. > If this is a problem for you, this is the one reason I see for keeping > the code private (to prevent getting maintenance queries about the > code). The major problem I have is trying to keep four code bases synched. And, there is a fifth that should be kept up to date (the Xfractint float only). I recall Robin saying he had an addition that needed to go into Xfractint, but wouldn't work with Fractint. > Since you are doing the lion's share of the work these days, this is > your call. Let's try it. Jonathan - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 13:21:22 -0600 From: "Jonathan Osuch" Subject: Re: Formula parser Tim, > The parser assembler (non-compiler version) has a > very limited future anyway. It is possible we could port the > assembler to Linux assembler (I am not opposed to this though > last time "assembler" and "Linux" were mentioned in the same > breath here, we got howls of protest :-), but if we don't port the > code, it does not have a future. True, but we could use the ideas in it to 'optimize' the C code. Jonathan - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 15:20:57 -0600 From: "Scott D. Boyd" Subject: Error mesg while saving image in Xfractint Jonathan, While playing around with Xfractint 20.1.03 to see where gif and par files get saved, I got this error message when I pressed 's' to save image to file: Saving to: test04.gif Warning: loadfile miscount on fractal_info structure. Components add up to 502 bytes, but FRACTAL_INFO_SIZE = 504 Saving done It still saved it though. I thought it *may* be due to the fact I was running it under X in 24-bit color. So I tried running Xfractint from the command line with -disk mode, and got the same error message, yet the fractal image came out fine. Scott Boyd - -- sdboyd56@swbell.net http://home.swbell.net/sdboyd56/ - -------------------------------- A computer without a Microsoft operating system is like a dog without bricks tied to it's head. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 14:44:45 -0700 From: Phil McRevis Subject: Re: Updated float only and xfractint In article <002401c05c95$27b91f60$0100a8c0@bananasenior>, "Jonathan Osuch" writes: > The major problem I have is trying to keep four code bases synched. And, > there is a fifth that should be kept up to date (the Xfractint float only). Sounds like its time to integrate CVS in there somewhere. It can make tracking these things easier. - -- Ask me about my upcoming book on Direct3D from Addison-Wesley! Legalize Adulthood! ``Ain't it funny that they all fire the pistol, at the wrong end of the race?''--PDBT legalize@xmission.com - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 16:10:22 -0600 From: "Jonathan Osuch" Subject: Re: Error mesg while saving image in Xfractint Scott, > While playing around with Xfractint 20.1.03 to see where gif and par files > get saved, I got this error message when I pressed 's' to save image to file: Yes, that's because there are some differences in how Xfractint handles gif files. They are hard coded. I'll fix it. Jonathan - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 17:01:02 -0600 From: Tim Wegner Subject: "ftp" site reorganized Ok, I reorganized the website "ftp" directory. (Really an html directory, since anonymous ftp is not allowed.) You will see that there is an "unstable" directory for your weird stuff, assuming you have anything that qualifies. :-) Let me know if any problems, or if anything needs to be changed. See also how the web page refers to the directories. Tim - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 20:42:36 -0600 From: "Jonathan Osuch" Subject: Re: "ftp" site reorganized Tim, The web page doesn't work. The directories don't have the correct permissions set. I tried to set them, but couldn't. Damien must have to do it. Jonathan - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 20:58:07 -0600 From: Tim Wegner Subject: Re: "ftp" site reorganized > The web page doesn't work. The directories don't have the correct > permissions set. I tried to set them, but couldn't. Damien must have to do > it. No, I did a chmod with the wrong value. It should be OK now. Tim - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 21:13:46 -0600 From: "Jonathan Osuch" Subject: Re: "ftp" site reorganized > It should be OK now. Yes, it is. One other thing, the whatsnew.txt file needs to be updated and its permissions need to be changed. Jonathan - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 21:09:37 -0600 From: "Scott D. Boyd" Subject: Re: "ftp" site reorganized On Saturday 02 December 2000 20:42, Jonathan wrote: > Tim, > > The web page doesn't work. The directories don't have the correct > permissions set. I tried to set them, but couldn't. Damien must have to > do it. > > Jonathan > It's working OK for me at 9:05pm CST. I was even able to type in the URL for the `unstable' directory and viewed the directory contents. Scott - -- sdboyd56@swbell.net http://home.swbell.net/sdboyd56/ - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 22:00:31 -0600 From: Tim Wegner Subject: Re: "ftp" site reorganized > Yes, it is. One other thing, the whatsnew.txt file needs to be updated and > its permissions need to be changed. I fixed the permissions of whatsnew.txt but haven't updated it. Tim - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 22:44:20 -0600 From: Tim Wegner Subject: Re: "ftp" site reorganized >From osuchj@qwest.net Sat Dec 02 20:15:28 2000 Received: from [209.181.204.1] (helo=cdrrpop1.cdrr.uswest.net) by lists.xmission.com with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 142Pce-0002ZA-00 for fractdev@lists.xmission.com; Sat, 2 Dec 2000 20:15:28 -0700 Received: (qmail 16458 invoked by alias); 3 Dec 2000 03:15:25 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-fractdev@lists.xmission.com@fixme Received: (qmail 16447 invoked by uid 0); 3 Dec 2000 03:15:25 -0000 Received: from cdslppp4.cdrr.uswest.net (HELO bananasenior) (209.181.213.4) by cdrrpop1.cdrr.uswest.net with SMTP; 3 Dec 2000 03:15:25 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c05cd7$788ceec0$0100a8c0@bananasenior> From: "Jonathan Osuch" To: References: Subject: Re: "ftp" site reorganized Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 21:16:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 > See also how the web page refers to the directories. You really have to know of the existence of the unstable stuff. The web page doesn't mention or link to the directory. Jonathan - ------- End of forwarded message ------- - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 22:44:20 -0600 From: Tim Wegner Subject: Re: "ftp" site reorganized Jonathan, if you'd like a link to the u_n_s_t_a_b_l_e stuff on the web page I can add it. I just thought no point in advertising it. It is easy enough to find. On the other hand, if I mentioned it, I could explain what it is. BTW majordomo doesn't like the word "u_n_s_t_a_b_l_e". If it sees u_n_s* it thinks you are u_n_s_ubscribing and bounces the message. As you see, it can be easily defeated, and you can use forbidden words in messages :-) Tim - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 07:39:34 -0600 From: "Jonathan Osuch" Subject: Re: "ftp" site reorganized Tim, > Jonathan, if you'd like a link to the u_n_s_t_a_b_l_e stuff on the > web page I can add it. I just thought no point in advertising it. It is > easy enough to find. On the other hand, if I mentioned it, I could > explain what it is. We should probably change its name, considering how much trouble it will be to use it in messages. Perhaps "veryunstable"? Assuming that majordomo is looking at the first few letters of a word. It may be appropriate to have separate directories for the DOS and Linux sources/executables. I am going to start including more files in the development executable to cut down on the complaints about not being able to find fractint.cfg. I am also thinking about going back to the stable version 3.12 version of Allegro. Since it is still available and the WIP version I started with isn't. I'll put a partial dif of patch 4 in the fractint directory since I don't think I'll have a chance to get it ready for release this morning. It should be ready next Friday evening. I'm also considering bringing the Xfractint float only code up to the latest patch. It could be a very busy week. Jonathan - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 09:39:50 -0600 From: Tim Wegner Subject: Re: "ftp" site reorganized Jonathan wrote: > We should probably change its name, considering how much trouble it will be > to use it in messages. Perhaps "veryunstable"? Assuming that majordomo is > looking at the first few letters of a word. A very sane suggestion :-) OK, I'll come up with something. > It may be appropriate to have separate directories for the DOS and Linux > sources/executables. I am going to start including more files in the > development executable to cut down on the complaints about not being able to > find fractint.cfg. OK, I'll do this too. Perhaps we need to make a shared subdirectory structure under current, veryunstable (or whatever), and release. Tim - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 11:29:20 -0600 From: Tim Wegner Subject: Re: "ftp" site reorganized > We should probably change its name, considering how much trouble it will be > to use it in messages. Perhaps "veryunstable"? I changed it to experimental. Do you want a mention on the web page? > It may be appropriate to have separate directories for the DOS and Linux > sources/executables. Done. Feel free to change what I did or ask me to. If any problems, let me know. Perhaps more than one patch file should be included under "current", but what I have now will work. I moved some of Robin's old html files into a private subdirectory where he can get them. Tim - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 12:53:25 -0600 From: "Jonathan Osuch" Subject: Re: "ftp" site reorganized > I changed it to experimental. Do you want a mention on the web > page? Yes. > Done. Feel free to change what I did or ask me to. If any problems, > let me know. It looks good. Separating the old files would probably be good, also. > Perhaps more than one patch file should be included under > "current", but what I have now will work. Yes. Also, it might be useful to add the release number to the release directory. Jonathan - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 19:40:51 -0600 From: "Jonathan Osuch" Subject: Uploading to ftp site Tim, I am unable to upload to /ftp/current/dos. So I put patch 4 and its executables in /ftp/current. The permissions are the same for the two directories but I still got a permission error when trying to upload to the dos directory. Jonathan - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 22:48:45 -0600 From: "Scott D. Boyd" Subject: Xfractint man page updates Jonathan, I will be working on updating Xfractint's man page within the next 24 hrs. I need some advise about how to write the last part of it. Currently it says: Xfractint was updated to Fractint 19.5 by Tim Wegner (twegner@phoenix.net) under Linux 2.0. Please report updates for other platforms to Tim Wegner. The primary authors of Fractint 19.5 are: Bert Tyler [73477,433] (CompuServe) bert_tyler@compuserve.com Timothy Wegner [71320,675] twegner@phoenix.net Jonathan Osuch [73277,1432] 73277.1432@compuserve.com Wesley Loewer loewer@tenet.edu As you can see, it says version 19.5. How should I word the first line to properly give credit for the current ver? What is the current version of Xfractint? (There is no "official release" in the ftp/release20.0/linux directory.) What about the primary authors of ver. 20.0? (The last current release?) Since this man page only works with Xfractint, should I use a different version number in the manpage credits? Who should now get report updates for other platforms? I'm so confused!! 8-) Scott Boyd P.S. I just noticed something... You were right - The manpage is *way* out of date! re: The last copyright year is 1997, and some email addresses are no longer valid..... - -- sdboyd56@swbell.net http://home.swbell.net/sdboyd56/ - -------------------------------- A computer without a Microsoft operating system is like a dog without bricks tied to it's head. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 07:11:07 -0600 From: "Jonathan Osuch" Subject: Use of relative paths Tim, If you use the current directory to set up the path to files and provide a file name at the same time, Fractint appends fractint.xxx to it and then can't find the correct file (duh!). For example: formulafile=./frm/fract200.frm will give you a complete path of: c:\fractint\mem\frm\fract200.frm\fractint.frm Which, of course, doesn't work. This looks like a problem with splitpath() as it is used in merge_pathnames() in PROMPTS2.C. I don't see how it occurs, yet. Jonathan - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 06:57:23 -0600 From: "Jonathan Osuch" Subject: Re: Xfractint man page updates Scott, > Xfractint was updated to Fractint 19.5 by Tim Wegner (twegner@phoenix.net) > under Linux 2.0. Please report updates for other platforms to Tim Wegner. > The primary authors of Fractint 19.5 are: > Bert Tyler [73477,433] (CompuServe) bert_tyler@compuserve.com > Timothy Wegner [71320,675] twegner@phoenix.net > Jonathan Osuch [73277,1432] 73277.1432@compuserve.com > Wesley Loewer loewer@tenet.edu Are you distributing the patched developer's version or the last "official" release? The last "official" release was done by Tim, the last developer's version by myself. You can use the list of primary authors that is in help5.src. The email addresses should be correct. > (There is no "official release" in the ftp/release20.0/linux directory.) > Since this man page only works with Xfractint, should I use a > different version number in the manpage credits? I'll fix that. The last official release was 3.10, but since then we have switched the numbering scheme to match that of Fractint. So it is now appropriate to use the Fractint version number. > Who should now get report updates for other platforms? I'd like to leave that in Tim's capable hands. 8-)) Jonathan - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 11:15:33 -0600 From: "Scott D. Boyd" Subject: Re: Xfractint man page updates On Saturday 09 December 2000 06:57, you wrote: > Are you distributing the patched developer's version or the last "official" > release? The last "official" release was done by Tim, the last developer's > version by myself. I am making the changes in Xfractint 20.1.03 - in conjunction with the changes I had proposed a couple of weeks ago. I am not distributing the changes, rather they will be submitted to you for your approval, along with an explanation of changes. Scott - -- sdboyd56@swbell.net http://home.swbell.net/sdboyd56/ - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 11:30:35 -0600 From: Tim Wegner Subject: Re: Xfractint man page updates Scott, > I am making the changes in Xfractint 20.1.03 - in conjunction with the > changes I had proposed a couple of weeks ago. I am not distributing the > changes, rather they will be submitted to you for your approval, along with > an explanation of changes. I'd be happy to check over any proposed patch to Xfractint. (Jonathan could too, but because he's carrying most of the load I probably should.) I'd like to see the changes as a context diff (diff - c old new) against a published version (Xfractint 20.1.03). Tim - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 11:59:25 -0600 From: "Scott D. Boyd" Subject: Re: Xfractint man page updates Tim, On Saturday 09 December 2000 11:30, you wrote: > > I'd be happy to check over any proposed patch to Xfractint. > (Jonathan could too, but because he's carrying most of the load I > probably should.) I'd like to see the changes as a context diff (diff - > c old new) against a published version (Xfractint 20.1.03). > OK, no problem. I'll send the diff to you. (I thought you weren't involved in Xfractint at the present time. That's why I had said I'd send it to Jonathan.) Did you follow the "Proposal for restructuring of Xfractint's Makefile" thread that I began on the fractdev mailing list back on Nov.26th? Scott - -- sdboyd56@swbell.net http://home.swbell.net/sdboyd56/ - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 13:00:59 -0600 From: Tim Wegner Subject: Re: Xfractint man page updates Scott wrote: > OK, no problem. I'll send the diff to you. (I thought you weren't involved in > Xfractint at the present time. That's why I had said I'd send it to Jonathan.) I've been very inactive for a while, so it's not surprising you had that impression. Jonathan and I have never really had a division of responsibility, though, so if either of us decides to take the time, either of us could integrate your changes. I must say, though, that inactivity takes its toll and Jonathan is much more up on fractint than I am. Tim - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 18:13:00 -0600 From: Tim Wegner Subject: Allegro port I think I'm close with the allegro port, but I have had lots of trouble. 1. I couldn't install the rpm for allegro that you posted. The KDE RPM tool crashed, I was in never never land. If I tried to install, it said it was installed, but if I tried to uninstall it said it was already installed. Eventually I suceeded by downloading the latest package from the Allegro site, and using the console RPM rtool rather than the GUI package. I don't know if I succeeded because there's some incompatibility between the original package and my Mandrake 7.2 or because I trashed the setup with the KDE RPM tool. Possibly the the install would have worked in the first place if I had used rpm - -i. 2. Allegro is set up for /usr/local/lib whereas my Mandrake Linux 7.2 is set up for /usr/lib. I'm sure there is a better fix, but I just added /usr/local/bin to my path and made link in /usr/lib to the allegro shared library in /usr/local/lib. 3. At this point Xfractint could compile and run, but it aborted with a seg fault with a whole bunch of messages about various video modes. I don't think it was able to set the modes. Any suggestions? I think I need details about your Linux environment, and step by step instructions, though I think I figured most of it out. Is there a command line parameter I need when I run Xfractint/Allegro? I noticed a whole bunch of test programs were compiled for allegro, I guess I should try them. BTW, I have given very little thought to various Uniux/Linux paths, but I like the idea of /usr/local to keep things I mess around with separate from "official" packages. I could mount /usr/local on it's own partition; I guess that is the idea. Tim - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 17:13:25 -0700 From: owner-fractdev@lists.xmission.com Subject: [none] Date sent: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 15:16:48 -0700 From: owner-fractdev@lists.xmission.com Subject: BOUNCE fractdev@lists.xmission.com: Non-member submission from ["=?iso-8859-2?B?UHVza+FzIElzdHbhbiBqci4=?=" ] To: owner-fractdev@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-fractdev@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: fractdev >From pataki8@matavnet.hu Sat Dec 09 15:16:46 2000 Received: from [195.228.240.10] (helo=matavnet.hu) by lists.xmission.com with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 144sIQ-0000hj-00 for fractdev@lists.xmission.com; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 15:16:46 -0700 Received: (qmail 22181 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2000 23:16:44 +0100 Received: from line-181-135.dial.matav.net (HELO y8i3q6) (145.236.181.135) by mail.matavnet.hu with SMTP; 9 Dec 2000 23:16:44 +0100 Message-ID: <002301c0622d$e1bbb740$87b5ec91@y8i3q6> From: "=?iso-8859-2?B?UHVza+FzIElzdHbhbiBqci4=?=" To: Subject: Is this good so? 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