From: Paul DeCelle Subject: (fractint) 4 pars Date: 01 Jan 1999 12:58:29 -0500 Happy 1999! Here're four gallet-8-08 pars, derived from Jim Weaver's posting yesterday. Jim - Good luck getting your new gear up & running.. I also plan to upgrade computers this year (If the tax refund materializes as hoped ). Regards, Paul DeCelle jwpd01 { ; t=0:03:39 (P60) Paul DeCelle 1/1/99 ; frm:gallet-8-08 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-8-08 passes=1 center-mag=-8.88178e-016/1.11022e-014/1.0059/1/90 params=0.13/-0.039/-1.83/0.2 float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60 outside=0 periodicity=0 colors=000G0E<5>304102010<4>0B10D10F10H20J20L20N2<2>0T40V40X3<9>0p6<4>cz\ e<3>0s8<5>0g60e60c4<2>0Y40W30U4<5>0I20G20E20C20A1081<3>00001012215326538\ 63A84DA5EB5HB<2>7NG8PI8RJ9TKAVNAXM<5>EhWFjYFlYGn_Gp`Prd<3>zzz<2>_ulRsgHq\ aHo`GmZFkXFiX<5>BYOAWMAUL9SK<3>7KE6IC5GB5DA<5>121000001023025047049<5>0B\ L0DN0DP<4>0KZ0L`0Mb0Nd0Of0Qh<3>0Up4Yr8atCgvGkxKqz<4>0Vq<13>0FQ0DO0DM<3>0\ 8E06C06A048046024012000100<11>P0JR0LT0NV0PX0P<2>b0Vd0Wf0Yh0Zj0`<2>p0e<4>\ zUxyOuwIquCns6iq0g<2>k0bi0`g0_e0Z<3>Y0SW0RU0O<5>I0F } jwpd02 { ; t=0:03:36 (P60) Paul DeCelle 1/1/99 ; frm:gallet-8-08 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-8-08 passes=1 center-mag=-8.88178e-016/1.11022e-014/1.0059/1/90 params=0.13/-0.039/-1.73/0.1 float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60 outside=0 periodicity=0 colors=000<8>000000222<22>zzz<23>000<6>000000111222<44>rtxtvzsuy<45>2220\ 00000<6>000100311<9>J77L88N99PAAQBA<22>zk8<22>RC9PAAOAA<8>A5584473352242\ 2211000<5>000 } jwpd03 { ; t=0:02:04 (P60) Paul DeCelle 1/1/99 ; frm:gallet-8-08 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-8-08 passes=1 center-mag=1.11022e-015/1.24345e-014/0.8293871 params=-0.7/0.218/3.14159265358979/0.01 float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60 outside=0 periodicity=0 colors=000689134<18>kqx<29>467<13>jqw<28>222000011<47>`oraqt`ps<36>000<1\ 8>lvvJNXHLW000<39>nsz<9>ACE } jwpd04 { ; t=0:04:53 (P60) Paul DeCelle 1/1/99 ; frm:gallet-8-08 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-8-08 passes=1 center-mag=0.72463/0.302659/6.557573/1/90 params=0.23/-0.039/-1.83/0.2 float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60 outside=0 periodicity=0 colors=000G0E<5>304102010<4>0B10D10F10H20J20L20N2<2>0T40V40X3<9>0p6<4>cz\ e<3>0s8<5>0g60e60c4<2>0Y40W30U4<5>0I20G20E20C20A1081<3>00001012215326538\ 63A84DA5EB5HB<2>7NG8PI8RJ9TKAVNAXM<5>EhWFjYFlYGn_Gp`Prd<3>zzz<2>_ulRsgHq\ aHo`GmZFkXFiX<5>BYOAWMAUL9SK<3>7KE6IC5GB5DA<5>121000001023025047049<5>0B\ L0DN0DP<4>0KZ0L`0Mb0Nd0Of0Qh<3>0Up4Yr8atCgvGkxKqz<4>0Vq<13>0FQ0DO0DM<3>0\ 8E06C06A048046024012000100<11>P0JR0LT0NV0PX0P<2>b0Vd0Wf0Yh0Zj0`<2>p0e<4>\ zUxyOuwIquCns6iq0g<2>k0bi0`g0_e0Z<3>Y0SW0RU0O<5>I0F } frm:Gallet-8-08 {; Sylvie Gallet, sylvie_gallet@compuserve.com, Mar 1997 ; Requires periodicity = 0 ; 0 < p2 <= 1 (default = 1) z = zn = pixel IF (p2 || imag(p2)) k = p2 ELSE k = 1 ENDIF : zn = zn*zn + p1 IF (abs(zn) < abs(z) && flip(abs(zn)) < flip(abs(z))) z = k*zn ENDIF |zn| <= 4 ;SOURCE: gallet_8.frm } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Hailman Subject: (fractint) Par Collection Date: 30 Dec 1999 21:41:14 -0500 I am keeping a collection of every par and frm posted to this list, the first one is the door3 par posted by Bill Decker a few days back. It will all be in a big par file. It will be available upon request. Robert Hailman robert@apexwood.com ----- Peace, love and excessive drug use. "I'm starting a war for peace." Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PKyleCA@aol.com Subject: (fractint) What did I do wrong? Date: 01 Jan 1999 16:59:09 EST I saved the following posting- maybe my mistake was trying to save two pars as one, or maybe I saved a form as a par. When I access this one- it tells me it cant find gallet-8-08. Any ideas? Thanks Paul Kyle -------------- EZ80801.GIF { ; image(c)1998 JimWeaver Gallet-8-08 t=01min44s ; reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_p.frm formulaname=Gallet-8-08 passes=1 center-mag=-7.77156e-016/1.13243e-014/1.175117/1/90 params=0.31/-0.034/-1.5/0.2 float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60 outside=0 periodicity=0 colors=000aPP<7>IDDGCCEAAC99A77<3>000<26>XXXyoRxmNxkJwiF<4>qU6pR4oQ4<12>\ ZC5YB5W96U87T77R58<12>zpN<3>jmVelW___```aaaccc<29>000B0A<14>d9H<10>A00<8\ >Y0B`0Ca2D<25>zzm<4>yqVakYYj_Uia<13>EP7DO5CM3AK0BJ0CI0<13>U30<15>zcc<8>d\ RR } EZDUZIT.GIF { ; image(c)1998 JimWeaver Gallet-8-08 t=09min40s ; reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_p.frm formulaname=Gallet-8-08 passes=t center-mag=-6.43929e-015/5.10703e-015/1.133203/1/90 params=0.305/-0.0295/-1.2/0.55 float=y maxiter=255 inside=bof61 periodicity=0 colors=000C0K<6>000<31>xxxzzzyyyzwwuuu0zzqqqzoommmzkziii<9>RRRzzPNNN<11>\ 000<6>F0P<6>204000000<29>U00V0zW00X00<32>000<6>F0P<6>204000011<39>Dtg0zz\ zqeCpd<23>3EB3Cz3A8<3>143z22000<6>F0PzzN } EZDUZIT2.GIF { ; image(c)1998 JimWeaver Gallet-5-09 t=05min44s ; reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_p.frm formulaname=Gallet-5-09 function=flip/acos passes=t center-mag=-1.06581e-014/5.32907e-014/0.04976336/1/45 params=0.1/0/0.2/0 float=y maxiter=75 inside=bof61 periodicity=0 colors=000154zoommmzkziii<9>RRRzzPNNN<11>000<6>F0P<6>204000000<29>U00V0z\ W00X00<32>000<6>F0P<6>204000011<3>1862972B82C93DA<30>Dtg0zzzqeCpd<23>3EB\ 3Cz3A8<3>143z22000<6>F0PzzNC0K<6>000<31>xxxzzzyyyzwwuuu0zzqqq cyclerange=2/255 } MNFNDZL1.GIF { ; image(c)1998 JimWeaver mandel(fn::fn) t=03min07s ; reset=1960 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=tan/cos passes=t center-mag=2.73039/-7.81597e-014/0.03663419/1/-90 params=0.675/0/0.65 float=y maxiter=50 bailoutest=and inside=bof61 outside=atan invert=1/-0.09/0 periodicity=0 colors=000vz4zz0<6>z_S<5>zD4z90x87<3>m3bj1jf1f<10>000<15>0f0<15>zz0<15>z\ zz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<14>jB0i70f70<14>000<15>S5N<15>zz0<14\ >ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<2>795574354033077<10>3nn3rr5nr7jr9frB\ br<3>Qzb<7>sz8 } MNFNTWST.GIF { ; image(c)1998 JimWeaver mandel(fn::fn) t=02min13s ; reset=1960 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=exp/sqr passes=t center-mag=-7.11960784424144700/+4.62032094257837300/0.2764504 params=1/0/0.1250000000000001 float=y maxiter=50 bailoutest=manh inside=bof60 invert=1/-0.606/0 periodicity=0 colors=000cac<9>707<15>upz<14>74L<2>ECRHFTKJW<12>szz<46>EAE<15>spz<9>QNV\ NKSMKS<7>9MO<10>KvtMzxLwu<13>2G804C<15>dzt<15>0LL<13>vqw<7>eWeLKh_P_<6>E\ 1E<15>www<4>fdf } Gallet-5-09 { ; Sylvie Gallet [101324,3444], 1996 ; PHC formula z = pixel * (whitesq - 0.5*(whitesq == 0 )) : x = real(z) , y = imag(z) x1 = x - p1 * fn1(y + p2*fn2(y)) y1 = y - p1 * fn1(x + p2*fn2(x)) z = x1 + flip(y1) |z| <= 64 } Gallet-8-08 { ; Sylvie Gallet, sylvie_gallet@compuserve.com, Mar 1997 ; Requires periodicity = 0 ; 0 < p2 <= 1 (default = 1) z = zn = pixel IF (p2 || imag(p2)) k = p2 ELSE k = 1 ENDIF : zn = zn*zn + p1 IF (abs(zn) < abs(z) && flip(abs(zn)) < flip(abs(z))) z = k*zn ENDIF |zn| <= 4 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) What did I do wrong? Date: 01 Jan 1999 17:52:15 -0500 Try putting "frm:" (without the quotation marks) in front of all the formula names in this posting. Thus, you should have: frm:Gallet-8-08 etc. Save changes to the file then try to run it in Fractint. Gedeon PKyleCA@aol.com wrote: > I saved the following posting- maybe my mistake was trying to save two pars as > one, or maybe I saved a form as a par. When I access this one- it tells me it > cant find gallet-8-08. > > Any ideas? > Thanks > Paul Kyle > -------------- > EZ80801.GIF { ; image(c)1998 JimWeaver Gallet-8-08 t=01min44s > ; > reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_p.frm formulaname=Gallet-8-08 > passes=1 center-mag=-7.77156e-016/1.13243e-014/1.175117/1/90 > params=0.31/-0.034/-1.5/0.2 float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60 > outside=0 periodicity=0 > colors=000aPP<7>IDDGCCEAAC99A77<3>000<26>XXXyoRxmNxkJwiF<4>qU6pR4oQ4<12>\ > ZC5YB5W96U87T77R58<12>zpN<3>jmVelW___```aaaccc<29>000B0A<14>d9H<10>A00<8\ > >Y0B`0Ca2D<25>zzm<4>yqVakYYj_Uia<13>EP7DO5CM3AK0BJ0CI0<13>U30<15>zcc<8>d\ > RR > } > > EZDUZIT.GIF { ; image(c)1998 JimWeaver Gallet-8-08 t=09min40s > ; > reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_p.frm formulaname=Gallet-8-08 > passes=t center-mag=-6.43929e-015/5.10703e-015/1.133203/1/90 > params=0.305/-0.0295/-1.2/0.55 float=y maxiter=255 inside=bof61 > periodicity=0 > colors=000C0K<6>000<31>xxxzzzyyyzwwuuu0zzqqqzoommmzkziii<9>RRRzzPNNN<11>\ > 000<6>F0P<6>204000000<29>U00V0zW00X00<32>000<6>F0P<6>204000011<39>Dtg0zz\ > zqeCpd<23>3EB3Cz3A8<3>143z22000<6>F0PzzN > } > > EZDUZIT2.GIF { ; image(c)1998 JimWeaver Gallet-5-09 t=05min44s > ; > reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_p.frm formulaname=Gallet-5-09 > function=flip/acos passes=t > center-mag=-1.06581e-014/5.32907e-014/0.04976336/1/45 > params=0.1/0/0.2/0 float=y maxiter=75 inside=bof61 periodicity=0 > colors=000154zoommmzkziii<9>RRRzzPNNN<11>000<6>F0P<6>204000000<29>U00V0z\ > W00X00<32>000<6>F0P<6>204000011<3>1862972B82C93DA<30>Dtg0zzzqeCpd<23>3EB\ > 3Cz3A8<3>143z22000<6>F0PzzNC0K<6>000<31>xxxzzzyyyzwwuuu0zzqqq > cyclerange=2/255 > } > > MNFNDZL1.GIF { ; image(c)1998 JimWeaver mandel(fn::fn) t=03min07s > ; > reset=1960 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=tan/cos passes=t > center-mag=2.73039/-7.81597e-014/0.03663419/1/-90 > params=0.675/0/0.65 float=y maxiter=50 bailoutest=and inside=bof61 > outside=atan invert=1/-0.09/0 periodicity=0 > colors=000vz4zz0<6>z_S<5>zD4z90x87<3>m3bj1jf1f<10>000<15>0f0<15>zz0<15>z\ > zz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz0<14>jB0i70f70<14>000<15>S5N<15>zz0<14\ > >ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5<2>795574354033077<10>3nn3rr5nr7jr9frB\ > br<3>Qzb<7>sz8 > } > > MNFNTWST.GIF { ; image(c)1998 JimWeaver mandel(fn::fn) t=02min13s > ; > reset=1960 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=exp/sqr passes=t > center-mag=-7.11960784424144700/+4.62032094257837300/0.2764504 > params=1/0/0.1250000000000001 float=y maxiter=50 bailoutest=manh > inside=bof60 invert=1/-0.606/0 periodicity=0 > colors=000cac<9>707<15>upz<14>74L<2>ECRHFTKJW<12>szz<46>EAE<15>spz<9>QNV\ > NKSMKS<7>9MO<10>KvtMzxLwu<13>2G804C<15>dzt<15>0LL<13>vqw<7>eWeLKh_P_<6>E\ > 1E<15>www<4>fdf > } > > Gallet-5-09 { ; Sylvie Gallet [101324,3444], 1996 > ; PHC formula > z = pixel * (whitesq - 0.5*(whitesq == 0 )) : > x = real(z) , y = imag(z) > x1 = x - p1 * fn1(y + p2*fn2(y)) > y1 = y - p1 * fn1(x + p2*fn2(x)) > z = x1 + flip(y1) > |z| <= 64 > } > > Gallet-8-08 { ; Sylvie Gallet, sylvie_gallet@compuserve.com, Mar 1997 > ; Requires periodicity = 0 > ; 0 < p2 <= 1 (default = 1) > z = zn = pixel > IF (p2 || imag(p2)) > k = p2 > ELSE > k = 1 > ENDIF > : > zn = zn*zn + p1 > IF (abs(zn) < abs(z) && flip(abs(zn)) < flip(abs(z))) > z = k*zn > ENDIF > |zn| <= 4 > } > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" -- Fractals: http://www.geocities.com/~gedeonp/index.html Member Infinite Fractal Loop Last updated: December 11, 1998 - new page added Photography: http://members.xoom.com/gedeonp/index.html Last updated: November 8, 1998 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PKyleCA@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) What did I do wrong? Date: 01 Jan 1999 21:08:18 EST In a message dated 1/1/99 2:56:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, gedeon@InfoAve.Net writes: > Try putting "frm:" (without the quotation marks) in front of all the formula > names > in this posting. Thus, you should have: frm:Gallet-8-08 etc. Save changes > to the > file then try to run it in Fractint. > I guess I am not doing this right. Still coming up empty. I guess because I do not have the file _p.frm, I am having the problems. If someone could post that, I'd probably get it to work. Thanks Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) What did I do wrong? Date: 01 Jan 1999 21:28:14 -0500 The file _p.frm is part of the large ORGFORM compilation of formulas which you can download here: http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html It is possible that the method I suggested previously doesn't work for you if you do not have the latest version -- 19.6 -- of Fractint. Embedding formulas in such a manner into par files does not work in earlier versions. If you don't have 19.6, you can download that too at the above address. As an alternative, you can separate the pars from the formulas in any of the postings on this list in which they are presented together. Make separate files of the pars and formulas respectively, saving the former with .par extension, the latter with .frm extension. If you do this, however, be sure to delete and frm: prefix which may be attached to the formulas. Gedeon PKyleCA@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/1/99 2:56:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, gedeon@InfoAve.Net > writes: > > > Try putting "frm:" (without the quotation marks) in front of all the formula > > names > > in this posting. Thus, you should have: frm:Gallet-8-08 etc. Save changes > > to the > > file then try to run it in Fractint. > > > > I guess I am not doing this right. Still coming up empty. > > I guess because I do not have the file _p.frm, I am having the problems. If > someone could post that, I'd probably get it to work. > > Thanks > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" -- Fractals: http://www.geocities.com/~gedeonp/index.html Member Infinite Fractal Loop Last updated: December 11, 1998 - new page added Photography: http://members.xoom.com/gedeonp/index.html Last updated: November 8, 1998 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PKyleCA@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) What did I do wrong? Date: 01 Jan 1999 21:54:21 EST I am using 19.6. Perhaps I've overlooked something simple. Thanks for the link. I'll download the frm files I need. In a message dated 1/1/99 6:37:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, gedeon@InfoAve.Net writes: > It is possible that the method I suggested previously doesn't work for you if > you do not have the latest version -- 19.6 -- of Fractint. Embedding formulas in > such a manner into par files does not work in earlier versions. If you don't have > 19.6, you can download that too at the above address. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Hailman Subject: Re: (fractint) What did I do wrong? Date: 31 Dec 1999 15:07:00 -0500 I had that problem. When you put the frm: in front of the formula name, that tells fractint that it is a formula and shouldnt appear on the list of entry. When trying to find a formula, it only looks in the par file if it's not a builtin frm and no other frm file is referenced. if you remove the reference to _p.frm (formulafile=_p.frm) it will look in the par file itself and then it should work. At 09:54 PM 01/01/99 EST, you wrote: > >I am using 19.6. Perhaps I've overlooked something simple. >Thanks for the link. I'll download the frm files I need. > >In a message dated 1/1/99 6:37:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, gedeon@InfoAve.Net >writes: > >> It is possible that the method I suggested previously doesn't work for you >if >> you do not have the latest version -- 19.6 -- of Fractint. Embedding >formulas in >> such a manner into par files does not work in earlier versions. If you >don't have >> 19.6, you can download that too at the above address. > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > > Robert Hailman robert@apexwood.com ----- Peace, love and excessive drug use. "I'm starting a war for peace." Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) 2 pars Date: 02 Jan 1999 11:42:15 -0500 Happy New Year to All! 6SG80503 { ; . t=3D 0:04:32= .48 ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, Jan 02, 1999 ; ; t=3Dcalc time using a PII 300 at 1600 x 1200 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D_g.frm formulaname=3Dgallet-8= -05 passes=3D1 center-mag=3D-0.10451345534796250/+0.92495565829145730/70.87156 params=3D0.2/0.2 float=3Dy maxiter=3D1500 inside=3D88 decomp=3D256 periodicity=3D0 colors=3Dgdh<4>c`ec`edae<37>yykzzlzyj<12>zsMzrKzqK<13>oTGnRFlQE<13>A00<= 8>K\ 00<16>wp0zt0zs0<4>yk0yi0yh0xg0<12>nS0mQ0lP0kN0jM0<5>dE0cC0aB0_A0<9>F00<= 2\ >I04J06J17K28<5>P9EQAFRBGSDHTEJUGK<9>cUXeWZeWZ<13>mijnjknjknkl<16>vvvww= w\ wwwwww<24>gei cyclerange=3D0/255 } 6SG80504 { ; . t=3D 0:06:18= .49 ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, Jan 02, 1999 ; ; t=3Dcalc time using a PII 300 at 1600 x 1200 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D_g.frm formulaname=3Dgallet-8= -05 passes=3D1 center-mag=3D-1.26060643713928600/+0.09171467647605767/889.8796 params=3D0.2/0.2 float=3Dy maxiter=3D1500 inside=3D0 decomp=3D256 periodicity=3D0 colors=3D33D<40>ffiggjiik<14>wwwxxxxwv<11>yqUypSyoQynNymLzlI<2>ykFyjEyi= Dyh\ CxhBxgAxf8xf8<3>wc4vc3vb2ua0t`0<13>cL0aJ0`J0<13>ID2GC3GC3<13>7CG6DH6DH6= D\ I<17>BJUCKUCKVDLVDLW<4>MSaNTbPVdRXe<5>aemcgocgo<13>pppqqqppq<51>22C11B0= 0\ A00A11B22C cyclerange=3D0/255 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Les St Clair" Subject: (fractint) December par Collection available Date: 02 Jan 1999 18:29:59 -0000 Happy New Year, The December par collection from these pages is now available at: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/fml.htm (just the parameters) or, if you prefer the pars with their original messages left intact you can get this version: http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/crosstrees/fml.htm An updated companion formula collection (frac_ml.frm) is available from both sites. cheers, Les Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lee&SusanLane Subject: Re: (fractint) 2 pars Date: 02 Jan 1999 13:49:18 -0600 Hi Sylvie, My Fractint 19.6 doesn't recognize reset=3d1960. What should do to help it? And, by the way, your timings of your recent pars (and for, that matter, those of Jim Beau) are so far to the right that they wrap around and, not the being behind a semicolon, are not recognized either. My best to you as always, Lee Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Mitchell Subject: Re: (fractint) 2 pars Date: 02 Jan 1999 12:58:34 -0700 (MST) I'm not sure how UF treats the "reset=" parameter, but your par got infected by the dreaded "3d" disease. Just remove the 3d from between the = and the 1960. It's an artifact of some binary/text translation. Kerry Mitchell lkmitch@primenet.com www.primenet.com/~lkmitch/ On Sat, 2 Jan 1999, Lee&SusanLane wrote: > Hi Sylvie, > > My Fractint 19.6 doesn't recognize reset=3d1960. What should do to help > it? And, by the way, your timings of your recent pars (and for, that > matter, those of Jim Beau) are so far to the right that they wrap around > and, not the being behind a semicolon, are not recognized either. > > My best to you as always, Lee > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: Re: (fractint) 2 pars Date: 02 Jan 1999 19:03:01 -0500 Hi Kerry, >> I'm not sure how UF treats the "reset=3D" parameter, ^^ ;-) Cheers, - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: Re: (fractint) 2 pars Date: 02 Jan 1999 19:03:00 -0500 Bonsoir Lee, >> My Fractint 19.6 doesn't recognize reset=3D3d1960. What should do to h= elp = >> it? And, by the way, your timings of your recent pars (and for, that = >> matter, those of Jim Beau) are so far to the right that they wrap arou= nd >> and, not the being behind a semicolon, are not recognized either. Ah, the "=3D3D" disease... I am emailing you these pars in a zip file.= As for Jim's pars, I always have to edit them so that Fractint can read= them. Amicalement, - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul DeCelle Subject: (fractint) More Pars for '99 Date: 02 Jan 1999 22:04:55 -0500 Hi, Everyone -- Here are seven nice quick-generating pars - "Michigan_1_2_99" pretty much sums it up for today's weather; 12in (30cm) snow & still counting as I type. I seem to be in a somewhat metallic coloring phase, lately... Enjoy! Paul DeCelle Gray_Cross { ; Paul DeCelle 2/2/99 t= 0:01:15 ; Derived from a Kathy Roth PAR reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=gravijul-v2 function=tan/sqrt/ident passes=1 center-mag=0.312351/0.296574/1.095379/1/-135 params=1.4/0/0.13/0/3.14159265358979/2.71828182845905 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 invert=1/0.2/0.15 decomp=256 colors=000966<19>qsq<35>995773884<36>qsq111<19>VVQXXSYYT__V``W<7>llgnnio\ okqqmrro<4>zzw<14>YYUWWRUUQ<13>222000000<82>302744 } Dread { ; Paul DeCelle 2/2/99 t= 0:01:47 ; Derived from a Kathy Roth PAR reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=gravijul-v2 function=tan/sqrt/tan passes=1 center-mag=0.312351/0.296574/0.425007/1/-135 params=1.4/0/0.13/0/3.14159265358979/2.71828182845905 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 invert=1/0.2/0.15 decomp=256 colors=000966<19>qsq<35>995773884<36>qsq111<19>VVQXXSYYT__V``W<7>llgnnio\ okqqmrro<4>zzw<14>YYUWWRUUQ<13>222000000<82>302744 } Ringworld { ; Paul DeCelle 2/2/99 t= 0:01:37 ; Derived from a Kathy Roth PAR reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=gravijul-v2 function=conj/log/cotan passes=1 center-mag=0.152792/0.606921/4.561974/2.1082/-139.133/-32.475 params=1.88/0/0.13/0/3.14159265358979/2.71828182845905 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 invert=1/0.2/0.15 decomp=256 colors=000966<19>qsq<33>CC8AA6995773884<36>qsq111<19>VVQXXSYYT__V``W<7>l\ lgnniookqqmrro<4>zzw<14>YYUWWRUUQ<13>222000000<82>302744 } Michigan_1-2-99 { ; Paul DeCelle t=0:02:28 P60 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_g.frm formulaname=Gallet-3-02 function=exp/tan center-mag=-1.87663/3.0793/9.05748 params=3.14159265358979/0.7/10/2 outside=atan colors=000000<39>nsz<11>134<18>kqx<29>467<13>jqw<28>222000011<47>`oraqt`\ ps<36>000<18>lvvJNXHLW } Buckle_up { ; Paul DeCelle t=0:01:16 P60 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_g.frm formulaname=gallet-3-02 function=sqr/conj center-mag=-1.484e-005/-0.0487643/0.1883117 params=3.14159265358979/0.7/10/2 outside=atan colors=000000<39>nsz<11>134<18>kqx<29>467<13>jqw<28>222000011<47>`oraqt`\ ps<36>000<18>lvvJNXHLW } Wrought_Iron { ; Paul DeCelle t=0:01:26 P60 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_g.frm formulaname=Gallet-3-02 function=recip/atanh center-mag=1.71983/0.395901/0.1649671 params=3.14159265358979/0.7/-4/2 outside=atan colors=000000<39>nsz<11>134<18>kqx<29>467<13>jqw<28>222000011<47>`oraqt`\ ps<36>000<18>lvvJNXHLW } Trantor_In_Ruins { ; Paul DeCelle t=0:02:36 P60 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_g.frm formulaname=Gallet-3-02 function=tan/exp center-mag=-1.85416/-1.86588/10.69649/1/45 params=6.28/0.7/-9/50 outside=atan colors=000000<39>nsz<11>134<18>kqx<29>\ 467<13>jqw<28>222000011<47>`oraqt`ps<36>000<18>lvvJNXHLW } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimBeau549@aol.com Subject: (fractint) 1 par Date: 03 Jan 1999 06:31:57 EST Hi All, This is my 1st posting of the year and from the new 'puter. More to come later. Enjoy~ Jim Weaver ******************************* prnrnbo1.gif { ; image(c)1999 JimWeaver PRN_02 t=03m13s PII350 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=PRN_02 function=cosxx/recip/sinh passes=t center-mag=0.321252/4.44089e-016/0.5580357/1/-90 params=0/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=255 logmode=fly periodicity=0 colors=00F5BF<3>000<3>FD8ABBNKD<9>zrZ<15>000<15>z00<15>000<15>www<15>000\ <15>0m0<15>000<15>zrZ<15>000<15>z0r<8>S0PK0I<4>000<15>www<15>000<6>8JP9M\ SBPWCS_DUbEXf<3>Khu<10>6EI } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) 1 par Date: 03 Jan 1999 05:42:01 -0600 Jim Weaver wrote: > > Hi All, > > This is my 1st posting of the year and from the new 'puter. > More to come later. > > Enjoy~ > Have you been up all night playing with this new PC?? :-) P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimBeau549@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) 1 par Date: 03 Jan 1999 06:52:08 EST In response to Paul Lee's mail: Guilty!!! :) G'Nite~ Jim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul DeCelle Subject: Re: (fractint) 1 par Date: 03 Jan 1999 14:05:41 -0500 JimBeau549@aol.com wrote: > > Hi All, > > This is my 1st posting of the year and from the new 'puter. More to come > later. > > Enjoy~ > > Jim Weaver > > ******************************* > > prnrnbo1.gif { ; image(c)1999 JimWeaver PRN_02 t=03m13s PII350 Jim-- Nice image! BTW, my time (P60) was 10m37s, or about 3.3 times slower. I'm impressed (and a little bit envious!). Regards, Paul DeCelle Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoWeber Subject: (fractint) 1 par Date: 03 Jan 1999 20:06:46 -0500 Hi Jim, what's going on? >>prnrnbo1.gif { ; image(c)1999 JimWeaver PRN_02 t=3D03m13s PII35= 0 1024x768 My time on P233MMX is 2:37.19!!! I'm running Windows 95 and start fractint under Norton Commander 5.0 DOS.= Cheers --Jo (Jochen) Weber-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoWeber Subject: (fractint) 1 par Date: 03 Jan 1999 20:33:24 -0500 Hi Jim, it's me again. I rebooted my machine and started fractint solo in pure DOS-mode. Now the= time is 2:33.63!! Even on my P166 the image only needs 3:30.53 in pure DOS-mode. Cheers --Jo Weber-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lee&SusanLane Subject: Re: (fractint) 1 par Date: 03 Jan 1999 23:57:01 -0600 Hi Jim, Beautiful image...like a great throned samurai displaying his magnificent robes. Nice first for '99 and your 'puter. But I join JoWeber in wondering about the time. My P200 did it in 3:10:15 @ 1024X768. Lee Lane Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimBeau549@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) 1 par Date: 04 Jan 1999 04:28:40 EST Hmmm......I guess maybe there's a bit of tweaking to be done here. If anyone who is familiar with Windows 98 and knows of any suggestions I'd be grateful for some tips. Also, I'm running Fractint from a shortcut icon that jumps to DOS. I tried running directly from DOS and only shaved about 3 seconds off an image. :( I do have a lot to learn about Win98 such as how to trim all the fat away and get down to the meat. Anyway, at least I can see my stuff in 1024x768 now. Has anyone ever converted their images to BMPs and used them on the maze screensaver in Win98? Now THAT's really cool. :) Enough text for now~ Jim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimBeau549@aol.com Subject: (fractint) 4 pars (2nd post) Date: 04 Jan 1999 06:21:55 EST Here's a cool looking mask/face and various other stuff I culled from the last few days(hrs). Enjoy~ Jim **************************************** prnrnbo4.gif { ; image(c)1999 JimWeaver PRN_02 t=03m18s PII350 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_p.frm formulaname=PRN_02 function=sinh/recip/tanh passes=t center-mag=-0.0260756/-2.22045e-015/0.4098361/1/-90 params=0/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=255 logmode=fly periodicity=0 colors=0004H20F0MMU<13>_mx`hz<30>CHS00L012<12>AFSBGUAFS<14>0007Mw<4>e00<\ 4>zz0<4>UFw00`<5>`oz<4>YFw<2>sff0o`000<14>zo`<15>000000<13>J9`KAcJDc<14>\ 0z`<14>Zky`jzaky<13>rudsvcrsd<14>WFx<15>zo`<13>8K5 } prnrnb11.gif { ; image(c)1999 JimWeaver PRN_02 t=03m37s PII350 1024x768 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=_p.frm formulaname=PRN_02 function=cotan/cotanh/log passes=t center-mag=-1.37668e-014/-1.86517e-014/0.9296309/1/-90 params=0/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=255 logmode=fly periodicity=0 colors=000236<2>0007Mw<4>e00<4>zz0<4>UFw00`<5>`oz<4>YFw<2>sff0o`000<14>z\ o`<15>000000<13>J9`KAcJDc<14>0z`<14>Zky`jzaky<13>rudsvcrsd<14>WFx<15>zo`\ <15>0F0MMU<13>_mx`hz<30>CHS00L012<12>AFSBGUAFS<10>347 } strmkrn1.gif { ; image(c)1999 JimWeaver manlam(fn::fn) ; t=00m33s PII350 1024x768 reset=1960 type=manlam(fn||fn) function=sin/ident passes=t center-mag=+0.55715089660642110/+0.77114821685158450/2.583497/1/-4.999 params=0/0/15 float=y maxiter=25 bailout=32767 inside=bof60 logmode=fly invert=1/0/0.9 periodicity=0 colors=000gK4<6>ZC5YB5W96U87T77R58<12>zpN<3>jmVelW___```aaaccc<29>000B0A\ <14>d9H<10>A00<8>Y0B`0Ca2D<25>zzm<4>yqVakYYj_Uia<15>CM3AK0BJ0<14>U30<15>\ zcc<17>IDDGCCEAAC99A77<3>000<26>XXXyoRxmNxkJwiF<4>qU6pR4oQ4<4>hL4 } strmkrn4.gif { ; image(c)1999 JimWeaver manlam(fn::fn) ; t=01m08s PII350 1024x768 reset=1960 type=manlam(fn||fn) function=sin/conj passes=b center-mag=+0.34976060900827510/-1.73822393300725400/10.6135/1/-155 params=0/0/39 float=y maxiter=255 bailout=12760 bailoutest=and inside=bof61 logmode=fly invert=1/0/-0.5 periodicity=0 colors=000vZZxaazcc<17>IDDGCCEAAC99A77<3>000<26>XXXyoRxmNxkJwiF<4>qU6pR4\ oQ4<7>dI4cH5bF5aE5_D5ZC5<4>R58<12>zpN<3>jmVelW___```aaaccc<29>000B0A<14>\ d9H<10>A00<8>Y0B`0Ca2D<25>zzm<4>yqVakYYj_Uia<15>CM3AK0BJ0<14>U30<12>tXX } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wdecker@csc.com Subject: (fractint) All Crossed Up Date: 04 Jan 1999 08:20:31 -0500 I?m not sure if someone posted a recent par using the Lesfrm34 formula = or if I started from scratch, but something got me started on investigatin= g what you could do with it. Crosses are the connecting theme of most of = the images that I liked. Vine-lattice2 was the first image that I was satisfied with. It is eith= er a finely etched, gray, matte surface or a general glowing source obscured= by a vine-like lattice. Depends on how your eyes are processing 2D images = into 3D at the moment. Zooms or slight color shifts accentuate a glassy, gen= tly rounded surface. Disassembly was a derivative of the vine images. It seems to be coming apart (or coming together.) The fine lines seem to suggest jigsaw puzzl= e shapes, adding to the sense of fragmentation. Biaxial-subframe is a derivative of Disassembly. It is so mechanical in= appearance that an astronaut?s gloved hand seems just about to enter th= e image. Pumps, filters, and hoses peek from access ports. Waffled, rivet= ed protective covers hide all except the mechanical nexus where the main action seems to be (if only we could figure out what it is supposed to = DO.) Bill Decker vine-lattice2 { ; (c) Bill Decker Dec 04, 1998 t=3D 0:03:16.47 ; on P100 1024x768 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfrac_ml.frm formulaname=3Dl= esfrm34 function=3Dcosxx/sin/asin passes=3D1 center-mag=3D0.138443/-0.0508563/0.1011455/1/-44.998 params=3D5/5/5/5= potential=3D255/200/0 colors=3D000242<2>111000000000<28>F0FF0FG1GG2G<27>UUUVVVWVVXWWYWW<27>= yiizj\ jzjjzkk<29>zzzzzzzzy<28>llYkkXkkXjjX<28>XXXWWWWWWVWVVWV<27>HWHGVGGVGF= UFF\ TF<23>353 } disassembly { ; (c) Bill Decker Dec 05, 1998 t=3D 0:01:22.22 ; on P150 800x600 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfrac_ml.frm formulaname=3Dl= esfrm34 function=3Dcotanh/cotan/cosxx passes=3D1 center-mag=3D0.138346/-0.0504816/0.1192496/1/-134.999 params=3D1/0/1/= 0 potential=3D255/200/0 colors=3D000a`L<24>k`ek_ejZd<25>T8PS6OS6O<31>gPThQThRTiSTiTT<31>yxxzz= zzzy<\ 29>llWkkUkkU<45>BPBAOAAOAAOA<18>6E66E66D65C56C58C5<2>CE6DF6EG7GH8<13>= __I\ ``J``J``Ka`L } biaxial-subframe { ; (c) Bill Decker Dec 30, 1998 t=3D 0:02:47.74 ; on P100 1024x768 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfrac_ml.frm formulaname=3Dl= esfrm34 function=3Dcotanh/cotan/cosxx passes=3D1 center-mag=3D0.576302/-0.138974/0.09307674/1/-122.499 params=3D10/0/1= 0/0 potential=3D255/200/0 colors=3D000CLS<3>7GO5FN4EM2CK1AH18E05A<6>1JR1LU3MV<26>vyw<19>NVaLT`J= R_HPY\ FNX<3>8HT6FS6FS<2>7EQ7EP8DP9CO<16>J1BK0AM3A<14>zt0<13>tb0ta0s_0rZ0<6>= iL0\ hJ0gI0fH0<10>R60Q50P50O40N30<3>H00<39>jfbkgclhe<11>vuuwwwvww<2>ruwqtv= osv\ nrulqt<2>hnsfmrelqdkpcjo<21>DMT } = Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: (fractint) added new page to website Date: 04 Jan 1999 20:06:28 -0500 I uploaded a new page to my Geocities website containing images I created with simple formulas I wrote based on some equations of curves I found in an ancient textbook of elementary analytic geometry. I hope you enjoy them. I also played around with making bordered backgrounds; some fractal, some floral, and others. A link to the site containing them is also found on my Geocities page. Gedeon -- Fractals: http://www.geocities.com/~gedeonp/index.html Member Infinite Fractal Loop Last updated: December 11, 1998 - new page added Photography: http://members.xoom.com/gedeonp/index.html Last updated: November 8, 1998 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SKarl52884@aol.com Subject: (fractint) AGP Date: 05 Jan 1999 07:14:59 EST Greetings, As I am on the verge of building a machine [ 440BX / PII450 ] I see the lure of AGP and wonder how, if I choose to use AGP, it will impact images done in fractint, and or, imaging in general. Is anyone using an AGP card and if so [ or if not ] do you have any input? I realize this is off topic. Anyone can write me direct if they would be inclined. Thank you, Steve Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PKyleCA@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) All Crossed Up Date: 05 Jan 1999 15:24:31 EST I think I've got the hang of these par things now- I posted some duplicates last month, not realizing I had done so until seeing the entire file posting. The following are interesting modifications of files I've been looking at: -------------- tiles { ; (c) 1998 by Paul Kyle, PKyleCA@aol.com ; image a Modification of "Pop Rivet", originally ; (c) 1996 by Les St Clair 101461.2032@compuserve.com reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=forum_96.frm formulaname=bj-sg-3-03-gb function=sqr/tan passes=1 center-mag=-0.311771/0.233278/0.1387319/1/-62.498 params=3.1417/0.31414/3.1417/0.6 float=y maxiter=483 outside=atan periodicity=0 colors=110<109>zz0zz0yy0<45>110000010<45>0y_0z`0y_<46>100 } GaussianDistortion { ; (c) 1998 by Paul Kyle, PKyleCA@aol.com ; image a Modification of "Pop Rivet", originally ; (c) 1996 by Les St Clair 101461.2032@compuserve.com reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=forum_96.frm formulaname=bj-sg-3-03-gb function=cosxx/log passes=1 center-mag=-10.2394/0.532741/0.09792811/1/-90 params=0.14423423/2.414/2.7188/0.00054 float=y maxiter=256 outside=atan periodicity=0 colors=110<109>zz0zz0yy0<45>110000001<45>00x00z00y<43>013121110100 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PKyleCA@aol.com Subject: (fractint) Pars Date: 05 Jan 1999 15:29:02 EST A few more, all modifications of Moire Mask....(forgot where I found that one) Temple puddles { ; Modification of Moire Mask ; (C) 1998 Paul Kyle reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=chby8.frm formulaname=ca10-08 center-mag=-0.00207363/-0.00207363/0.09361006/1/44.999 params=0.5/0/1/0 float=y maxiter=147 inside=255 potential=255/344/0 invert=6/0/0 colors=000zzz<47>5zz4yy4yy<77>0Wy0Vx0Vx0Vw0Uw<121>000 } pouring { ; Modification of Moire Mask ; (C) 1998 Paul Kyle reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=chby8.frm formulaname=ca10-08 center-mag=6.9531/6.95334/1.492843/1/44.999 params=0.5/0/3/0 float=y maxiter=35 inside=255 potential=255/344/0 invert=6/0/0 colors=000<75>xx0yy0zz0zz0yy0xx0<60>110000000001<60>00x00y00x<44>0010000\ 00 } cathedral { ; Modification of Moire Mask ; (C) 1998 Paul Kyle reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=chby8.frm formulaname=ca10-08 center-mag=+6.88710589927545400/+6.88734638120362100/364.4637/1/44.998 params=0.5/0/3/0 float=y maxiter=35 inside=255 potential=255/344/0 invert=6/0/0 colors=000<75>xx0yy0zz0zz0yy0xx0<60>110000000001<60>00x00y00x<44>0010000\ 00 } butterflyafire { ; Modification of Moire Mask ; (C) 1998 Paul Kyle reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=chby8.frm formulaname=ca10-08 center-mag=27.5656/27.5646/0.007381165/1/44.998 params=0.34343/-0.3234/-0.343/0 float=y maxiter=35 inside=255 potential=255/344/0 invert=6/0/0 colors=000<75>xx0yy0zz0zz0yy0xx0<60>110000000001<60>00x00y00x<44>0010000\ 00 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Springer Subject: (fractint) Accuracy Date: 05 Jan 1999 21:31:21 -0800 Greetings... I have always heard that Fractint is blindingly fast compared to other such programs because it is based on integer math instead of floating point math. However, to do this it makes certain "approximations". Could this mean the results obtained are only "approximately" Mandlebrot, perhaps becoming more and more approximate as iterations and zoom levels increase??? Are we looking at "true" fractals, or are we just doing dances with Wolves in Mandelbrot's clothing??? (I shall now "duck and cover"!!!) Chris Springer Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) Accuracy Date: 05 Jan 1999 22:23:00 -0800 Hi Christopher, Fractint uses more floating point than you might think, since the current Pentium processors have very fast floating point math. After you zoom into the Mandelbrot set a certain amount you pass the limits of double precision and Fractint switches to extended precision math. So you can zoom into very high magnifications and get very nice results. Jay Hill ---------- > From: Christopher Springer > To: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (fractint) Accuracy > Date: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 9:31 PM > > Greetings... > > I have always heard that Fractint is blindingly fast > compared to other such programs because it is > based on integer math instead of floating point math. > > However, to do this it makes certain "approximations". > > Could this mean the results obtained are only > "approximately" Mandlebrot, perhaps becoming > more and more approximate as iterations and > zoom levels increase??? > > Are we looking at "true" fractals, or are we just > doing dances with Wolves > in Mandelbrot's clothing??? > > (I shall now "duck and cover"!!!) > > Chris Springer > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wdecker@csc.com Subject: (fractint) Taking it for granite Date: 06 Jan 1999 07:33:03 -0500 (Sorry, I couldn?t resist the chance for a silly Malapropism.) These images have the general theme of carved stone chased with silver = or gold. The fractal is not fully resolved in the regions where very fine striations are well below the resolution of the screen. The result is a= fine textured, speckled stone-like surface resembling polished granite.= The pars are presented in time order in which I created them. (I saved about 25 pars on my journey in this quest of the best rendition of what= I imagined that I saw in the first par in the series.) I?ve got some comm= ents that try to let you inside my head as I pursued the ?perfect? image fro= m this fractal. Padds was the first of the images that I saved. It has a slightly diffe= rent formula set than the others (asinh rather than sin). I decided to see w= hat the pad-like stone surfaces could be evolved to. Pebble-flowers finally settled on the formula set that I liked, but the= challenge now was to see if I could find a part of the fractal surface = that reminded me of something ?real?. I got some good detail in the dark are= as of the image that I would have difficulty in achieving in later pars. Pebble-flowers3 seemed like something I could work with. The compositio= n was kind of symmetric (something I usually don?t like) and seemed to co= nvey a stone carver?s decorative intent. Pebble-flowers4 ends up being my favorite. The granite surface has a mo= ssy shade and the moon silver holding the flower petals in place has a mute= d sparkle. For some reason, I imagine that the carving is the artist?s decoration of a natural rock crevice that crosses a stream bed. Water flowing over this carving seems natural given the dark green shadows in= the crevice. Pebble4p is a fantasy in garnet with gold tinged clasps holding the pie= ces in place. Just a side excursion, I liked the glassy reds and gold tinge= s but it seemed too unreal for me. Talus-pebbles is a wider view of a pebbled scene. The rounded rocks and= broken gems lie in cemented heaps like fossils; an ancient treasure, no= w petrified. I like this one almost as much as pebble-flowers4 since it s= eems to have a story behind it. Still, the simpler story of pebble-flowers4 = wins out. I can see now that I should have stayed with the pebble-flowers4 colors. Pebbles-wh2 was an attempt to get more detail visible in the depths of = the crevices in the carving. Didn?t work. Too light and still no better definition of the carving in the crevices. I finally gave it a rest today and decided to try to document the evolu= tion of this particular series. I think pebble-flowers4 is still the best rendition I have to date. Like most other series of this sort (where I = try to evolve a fractal), the best result seems to be one of the attempts i= n the middle of the series, in this case number 13 in the series. Without saying so directly in this tale of search and reward, my search= es tend to focus on finding fractals that tell me a story. Hmmm, I?ll have= to think about that. I'm not sure that it applies to me all the time. Anyone care to comment on my attempt to tell you how I worked this frac= tal? Anyone see a way to get that damn detail in the crevices to become more= apparent? If you would like to see a contact print of these seven fractals, go to= http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/1450/granite.jpg The old copy of LView I use for contact prints does not understand long= file names and seems to use some arcane ordering for drag and dropped files. Here is the translation table: padds.gif Padds pebble~1.gif Pebble-flowers pebble~2.gif Pebble-flowers3 pebble~3.gif Pebble-flowers4 pebble4p.gif Pebble4p talus-~1.gif Talus-pebbles pebble~4.gif Pebbles-wh2 Bill Decker padds { ; (c) Bill Decker Jan 02, 1999 t=3D 0:02:18.52 ; on P150 800x600 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D0bill.frm formulaname=3Dbills_xy-trade4 function=3Dtanh/asinh passes=3D1 center-mag=3D-0.59067018549382360/+0.85725534526282780/2612.355/1/-70= params=3D5/-5/5/-5/2/2000 float=3Dy potential=3D255/400/0 colors=3D000GH8<13>__I``J``J<27>k`ek_ejZd<25>T8PS6OS6O<32>hQThRTiSTiT= TjUU<\ 30>yxxzzzzzy<29>llWkkUkkU<45>BPBAOAAOAAOA<20>6D65C56C5<2>BD6CE6DF6EG7= } pebble-flowers { ; (c) Bill Decker Jan 02, 1999 t=3D 0:02:15.89 ; on P150 800x600 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D0bill.frm formulaname=3Dbills_xy-trade4 function=3Dtanh/sin passes=3D1 center-mag=3D-0.78631140962978900/-0.01006275807433995/676.604/1/-117= .499 params=3D5/-5/5/-5/2/2000 float=3Dy potential=3D255/400/0 colors=3D0005C5<2>9D5BD6CE6DF6<5>MMBNOCPPCQRDRSE<5>__I``J``J<27>k`ek_= ejZd<\ 25>T8PS6OS6O<32>hQThRTiSTiTTjUU<30>yxxzzzzzy<29>llWkkUkkU<45>BPBAOAAO= AAO\ A<20>6D6 } pebble-flowers3 { ; (c) Bill Decker Jan 02, 1999 t=3D 0:02:35.94 ; on P150 800x600 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D0bill.frm formulaname=3Dbills_xy-trade4 function=3Dtanh/sin passes=3D1 center-mag=3D-0.82456563416819680/+0.00038519494123827/593.9744/1/147= .499 params=3D4/-3/-5/-5/2/2000 float=3Dy potential=3D255/600/0 colors=3D0009D5BD6CE6<4>JK9KLAMMBNOCPPCQRD<6>__I``J``J<27>k`ek_ejZd<2= 5>T8P\ S6OS6O<32>hQThRTiSTiTTjUU<30>yxxzzzzzy<29>llWkkUkkU<45>BPBAOAAOAAOA<2= 0>6\ D65C56C58C5 } pebble-flowers4 { ; (c) Bill Decker Jan 03, 1999 t=3D 0:02:26.16 ; on P150 800x600 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D0bill.frm formulaname=3Dbills_xy-trade4 function=3Dtanh/sin passes=3D1 center-mag=3D-0.78550758907534370/-0.00005011653741778/695.1953/1/-17= 7.498 params=3D5/-5/5/-5/2/2000 float=3Dy logmode=3Dfly potential=3D255/400= /0 colors=3D0009L9<13>6E66E66D65C56C58D59D5BD6CE6<6>MMBNOCPPCQRDRSE<5>__= I``J`\ `J<25>j`ck`dk`ek_ejZdiYc<24>T8PS6OS6O<31>gPThQThRTiSTiTT<31>yxxzzzzzy= <29\ >llWkkUkkU<45>BPBAOAAOAAOA<3>9M9 } pebble4p { ; (c) Bill Decker Jan 03, 1999 t=3D 0:02:13.47 ; on P150 800x600 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D0bill.frm formulaname=3Dbills_xy-trade4 function=3Dtanh/sin passes=3D1 center-mag=3D-1.04982526055679900/+0.02567678695971272/105.0201/1/162= .499 params=3D5/-5/5/-5/2/2000 float=3Dy logmode=3Dfly potential=3D255/600= /0 colors=3D000500<7>100000000000<38>K00K00K00K10L20<38>cV0dW0dW1eX2<39>= yyxzz\ zzyz<39>g2Xf0Wf0W<39>N01M00M00L00<30>600 } talus-pebbles { ; (c) Bill Decker Jan 03, 1999 t=3D 0:02:21.49 ; on P150 800x600 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3D0bill.frm formulaname=3Dbills_xy-trade4 function=3Dtanh/sin passes=3D1 center-mag=3D-1.05119645670889500/+0.01473867280503022/45.16367/1/-13= 2.5 params=3D5/-5/5/-5/2/2000 float=3Dy logmode=3Dfly potential=3D255/300= /0 colors=3D000202<22>E0EF0FF0FF0F<29>UUUVVVVVWWWXWWY<27>iiyjjzjjzkkz<30= >zzzz\ zzyyz<28>kkzkkzjjyjjx<28>WWWWWWVWVVWVVWV<26>HWHGVGGVGFUFFTF<27>111000= 000\ 000<2>202 } pebbles-wh2 { ; (c) Bill Decker Jan 04, 1999 t=3D 0:02:26.33 ; on P150 800x600 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dfrac_ml.frm formulaname=3Dbills_xy-trade4 function=3Dtanh/sin passes=3D1 center-mag=3D-0.78550758907534370/-0.00005011653741778/695.1953/1/-17= 7.497 params=3D5/-5/5/-5/2/2000 float=3Dy logmode=3Dfly potential=3D255/100= 0/0 colors=3D0F0<68>zzzzzzzzy<43>hkYgjXgjXgjX<35>XaNXaNWaNWaNW`NV`M<6>S_L= S_LS_\ LS_LR_L<84>0F0 } frm:bills_xy-trade4 { a =3D real(p1), b =3D imag(p1) c =3D real(p2), d =3D imag(p2) e =3D real(p3), f =3D imag(p3) z =3D pixel+1/pixel zold =3D pixel^e: x =3D (real(z)-real(zold))^a y =3D (imag(z)-imag(zold))^b zold =3D z z =3D (y +flip(x)) z =3D (fn1(z))^c - (fn2(zold))^d |z| < f } = Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Bennett" Subject: Re: (fractint) Accuracy Date: 06 Jan 1999 16:40:41 -0000 It depends, I think, partially on your drawing method. If you choose the "guessing" type (where the fractal appears to be "focused" in to a clear picture) then I think there's the possibility all the pixels may not be the exact correct colour. However, choose the 1-pass option and I'm pretty sure the fractal produced is perfect - regardless of zoom level. Matt -----Original Message----- >Greetings... > >I have always heard that Fractint is blindingly fast >compared to other such programs because it is >based on integer math instead of floating point math. > >However, to do this it makes certain "approximations". > >Could this mean the results obtained are only >"approximately" Mandlebrot, perhaps becoming >more and more approximate as iterations and >zoom levels increase??? > >Are we looking at "true" fractals, or are we just >doing dances with Wolves >in Mandelbrot's clothing??? > >(I shall now "duck and cover"!!!) > >Chris Springer > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Accuracy Date: 06 Jan 1999 11:15:11 -0600 Chris, - I have always heard that Fractint is blindingly fast - compared to other such programs because it is - based on integer math instead of floating point math. Actually, these days FractInt is only moderately fast. It's not the fastest (I believe that prize currently goes to Fractal eXtreme) but it's far from the slowest. FractInt is as fast as it is for several different reasons, not just integer math. It's also fast because it takes advantage of fractal symmetry (when it can), because it uses solid guessing to eliminate calculating portions of the image, and because it uses periodicity checking to detect periodic orbits early in the iterating sequence. The idea behind using integer math is that it lets you work with 32-bit precision instead of 64-bit precision. Prior to the Pentium this was a big win; 32-bit precision could be done with integers the core CPU could handle, while 64-bit precision required using the (slow) FPU. With the Pentium, the FPU is fiendishly fast, and the advantage of using 32-bit precision is gone. In any case, using 32-bit precision does cause some distortion when you zoom in far enough; FractInt automatically switches to 64-bit precision when necessary so you won't notice (usually). Solid guessing is the progressive refinement process, but on each refinement pass, FractInt checks each block to see if its neighboring blocks are all the same color. If they are, it stops refining that block. This can eliminate a lot of calculations, although in the more detailed areas it is less effective. FractInt also offers boundary tracing, which is a similar concept--outline areas of solid color, and don't calculate the interior of those regions. Periodicity checking is about paying attention to the iterations and looking for periodic patterns. Most of the points that do not bail out of the M-set calculation fall into periodic orbits. If these can be detected at the start of the periodic cycle, then it is safe to skip the rest of the iterations, since they will just produce repeating values. This allows interior regions to be calculated very quickly. - However, to do this it makes certain "approximations". - - Could this mean the results obtained are only - "approximately" Mandlebrot, perhaps becoming - more and more approximate as iterations and - zoom levels increase??? In one sense, every image is an approximation, since the precision of our computers is always (at some point) limited. Any algorithm or technique used to avoid doing the actual work of generating a fractal will introduce some errors, sometimes very subtle. Solid guessing fails on thin strands of detail. Periodicity checking fails on spiral arms (since these often exhibit periodic-like behavior before diverging). And limited precision produces blockiness when the error between the correct pixel coordinate and its closest approximation in the limited precision becomes significant. If you continued to zoom in FractInt without switching away from integer math, you would certainly be getting a more and more distorted view of the fractal. Similarly, if you zoomed in on a spiral arm that was incorrectly rendered because of periodicity checking, you would be getting a more and more inaccurate view of the fractal. Acceleration techniques are tools, and knowing when to disable them is important if you are interested in accurate fractals. The fact that there is such close agreement between the "true" fractal shape and the approximations provided by acceleration techniques is precisely what makes them valuable. If you have no confidence in limited precision having any resemblance to the "true" fractal shape, I can explain further. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J.P. Louvet" Subject: Re: (fractint) Accuracy Date: 06 Jan 1999 19:29:16 +1 le 5 Jan 99 a 22:23, Jay Hill ecrivait (Jay Hill wrote) : > Hi Christopher, > > Fractint uses more floating point than you might think, > since the current Pentium processors have very fast > floating point math. After you zoom into the Mandelbrot set > a certain amount you pass the limits of double precision > and Fractint switches to extended precision math. So you > can zoom into very high magnifications and get very > nice results. > > Jay Hill > ---------- It uses floating point if you select Floating point algorithm = yes in the Basic Options menu. J.P. Louvet | Phone : (33)56-84-58-35 IUT Universite Bordeaux I | email : louvet@iuta.u-bordeaux.fr 33405 Talence CEDEX France | email : louvet@hs-serveur.iuta.u-bordeaux.fr Fractales sur serveur Web Universite Bordeaux I : http://graffiti.cribx1.u-bordeaux.fr/MAPBX/louvet/jpl0.html Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Accuracy Date: 06 Jan 1999 19:01:52 -0600 Matt wrote: > However, choose the 1-pass option and I'm pretty sure > the fractal produced is perfect - regardless of zoom level. You are correct as far as you go. The one pass option with symmetry=none and periodicity=0 is relatively accurate. However, there are still two large inaccuracies. 1. The maxiteration limit has to be infinity for perfect accuracy. For any finite value of maxiter, it is possible that some points are "in the lake" that ought not be. For example, if the maximum iteration is set for 1000000 and a particular orbit has not escaped by then, the pixel is colored the "inside" color. But for all you know, the orbit was about to escape, and in fact would have escaped at iteration number 1000001. So that point is colored wrong. The "lake" is always slightly too big. 2. Computers can only represent complex numbers approximately. Even using arbitrary precision, the orbit is not absolutely correct. Some of the fractal algorithms are extraordinarily sensitive to very small changes and show this clearly. One example is popcornjul. I have been experimenting with this, and small differences in coding logic that, for example, cause an intermediate value to be truncated to 64 bits, can change many image colors. Tim Given these two facts, it is amazing how well computers do. Try the default mandelbrot using 1500 digits of arbitrary precision and with maxiter set to 32000 and see how different it looks. The answer is not very different! Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: (fractint) video card/makemig Date: 07 Jan 1999 18:03:14 -0500 On attempting to make a large image (v window/300 x 300 or otherwise), "b" command: 6 x 6 or otherwise (4 x 4 etc), goto main screen, shell to dos, makemig, and now I have a large file. I see comments as it whizzes by about not enough memory...at end, simplgif fractmig.gif .gif I receive an "oops, insufficent memory (words to that effect). Is Fractint attempting to tell me that I should maybe replace my S3 Vision864PCI with something else? Or do I have another another problem? Any guesses? Off topic and I do apologize for this...(and you wouldn't believe the story behind why I am doing this...) davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jacco Burger" Subject: (fractint) gallery update Date: 07 Jan 1999 23:38:00 +0100 I recently finished making a new version of my web gallery, and uploaded it yesterday. I renamed it 'Jacco's Fractal Pages' because I discovered two other Jacco's Homepages on the Internet. Some changes and additions are: I got rid of the frames and most of the non-fractal graphics (do I hear 'Hurray!!' ?). I added a gallery with new fractals, a page with my contest submissions and another zip-file of color maps for Fractint. Some of you already had a preview of the color maps. The URL hasn't changed, it is still: http://wwwserv.caiw.nl/~jaccobu/index.htm I hope you will enjoy it and let me know what you think! Bye! Jacco Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimBeau549@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) gallery update Date: 07 Jan 1999 19:02:50 EST Hi Jacco, Jim Weaver here. Just saw your pages and wanted to tell you I really liked them. By the way....are you a Frank Zappa fan?? The reason I ask is a few of your images have titles I recognize from his music. I have about 23 or so of his vinyl albums that I've collected over the years. Too bad he isn't around anymore. Anyway, great work on the site. Take care~ Jim Weaver Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimBeau549@aol.com Subject: (fractint) 13 pars Date: 07 Jan 1999 19:06:40 EST Hi Folks, Here are a few more images from the last couple of days. Enjoy~ Jim Weaver ****************************************************************************** ** Epsilon01 { ; image(c)1999 JimWeaver manlam(fn:fn) t=01m13s@1024x768 ; strmkre3.gif reset=1960 type=manlam(fn||fn) function=sin/ident passes=t center-mag=-0.38546299257569520/+2.04627746292502000/8.701738/1/65 params=0/0/10 float=y maxiter=75 bailout=32767 inside=epsiloncross logmode=fly invert=1/0/0.5 periodicity=0 colors=000XCA<10>zpN<3>jmVelW___```aaaccc<29>000B0A<14>d9H<10>A00<8>Y0B`\ 0Ca2D<25>zzm<4>yqVakYYj_Uia<15>CM3AK0BJ0<14>U30<15>zcc<17>IDDGCCEAAC99A7\ 7<3>000<26>XXXyoRxmNxkJwiF<4>qU6pR4oQ4<7>dI4cH5bF5aE5_D5ZC5<4>R58U99 } Epsilon02 { ; image(c)1999 JimWeaver manlam(fn:fn) t=01m34s@1024x768 ; strmkre5.gif reset=1960 type=manlam(fn||fn) function=sin/ident passes=t center-mag=-0.42757133808480210/+2.07054662670096300/41.37695/1/87.499 params=0/0/10 float=y maxiter=75 bailout=32767 inside=epsiloncross logmode=fly invert=1/0/0.5 periodicity=0 colors=000XCA<10>zpN<3>jmVelW___```aaaccc<29>000B0A<14>d9H<10>A00<8>Y0B`\ 0Ca2D<25>zzm<4>yqVakYYj_Uia<15>CM3AK0BJ0<14>U30<15>zcc<17>IDDGCCEAAC99A7\ 7<3>000<26>XXXyoRxmNxkJwiF<4>qU6pR4oQ4<7>dI4cH5bF5aE5_D5ZC5<4>R58U99 } Epsilon03 { ; 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I also spotted the Frank Zappa inspired titles. Could there be some bizarre connection between enjoying Zappa's music and being interested in fractals? I've noticed a few fans on this list alone:-) FZ would love it-- Anyway, here's a par that may (or may not) have anything to do with Zappa! Regards, Paul DeCelle ****************************************************************** Standing_Waves { ; A lesfrm34 image t=0:05:03 ; Paul DeCelle 1/7/99 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm formulaname=lesfrm34 function=sin/cosxx/exp passes=3 center-mag=0.39549/0.332018/7.248986/1/-90 params=2.71828182845905/0.44/3.14159265358979/0.032 potential=255/200/0 colors=dtyqzy<13>hvzgvzfuyfuyetycty<10>VnuVmuUltTktSks<9>LcnKcnJbmJalI`k\ H_k<16>7NZ6MY6MX6MX<10>1EP1DO1DN1CN1BM<7>07G06F06F06E<7>029029128128117<\ 7>304403403502502<3>701701801900<11>G30H30H30I40J40J51<4>N72O82P82P82Q92\ RA3<7>XE6YF6ZG7_H7_H8<14>kTHkUIlUIlVJmWK<14>ufVvgWvgXvhY<5>ylaymbyncyndy\ oe<2>zpfzqgzqhzrizri<4>zumzvnzvnzvo<6>yysyysyytxytxyu<2>wzuvzvvzvvzwuzw<\ 2>tzytzyszyszyrzyrzyqzy } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fliguer, Miguel" Subject: RE: (fractint) Gallery Update Date: 08 Jan 1999 10:17:47 -0300 Paul DeCelle wrote : >>> Could there be some bizarre connection >>> between enjoying Zappa's music and being >>> interested in fractals? I've noticed a few fans >>> on this list alone:-) FZ would love it-- One more reason to love this list ! Yes, there is a connection. Zappa's music, just like a well crafted fractal, is beautiful, complex, sometimes chaotic, and it reveals more beautiful layers when you dig (or zoom) a bit. So far the detected Zappa fans at this list are Jim Weaver, Jacco Burger, Paul DeCelle and myself. Not bad, not bad.... Incidentally, I'm a member of one of the thousands of groups trying to crack the RC5-64 key. And our group is called, you guessed it, "alt.fan.frank-zappa RC5-64 Crack Decryption Squad" So there should be another strange connection... And BTW, I'm still working on my FZ Memorial Fractal Page (to be displayed at my Franktal site), I'll make the announcement when it's finished. Meanwhile, enjoy these ZappaPars ;-) swami {; Who you jivin' with that Cosmik Debris ? ; from the FZ Memorial Fractal Page ; by Miguel Fliguer - 1999 reset=1960 type=tim's_error function=tan center-mag=-1.0642/-0.0273895/1.223492/1/90 params=1/0 bailoutest=imag potential=255/240/0 colors=222323545<18>OMTQNVPMU<17>B4DA3CB4D<10>VFOXGP_HRbHSeIUdKTbNS<7>f6 \ Og3Nf3N<6>X4GV5FV5F<6>a3Fb2Eb4G<6>iLWjOZjOY<7>cIQ<7>jghkkkjhf<6>cO8bL2`K \ 3<7>H7E<5>`WVc`Yfd`jicifa<6>bKK`GHYGH<3>448227<7>QQVUTZWUZ<7>nia<8>EAA<8 \ >F23F23E23<5>A55966855622<8>ZAB<8>EA6<6>LA9MAANABOBCQDD<5>_PJaRKbRJ<6>lX \ 6nY4mY6<4>gVG434 cyclerange=2/255 } Pink_Napkins {; from the FZ Memorial Fractal Page ; by Miguel Fliguer - 1999 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=miguel.frm formulaname=zappa-1 function=sin/exp center-mag=-0.37849950750000000/+0.10243439650000000/1342.673/0.9995/12. \ 171 potential=255/50000/0 colors=000mYT<22>bAI000<37>J7aK8bL8cM8dM8fN8gO9i<10>O9aO9`O9`O9`<9>K9XJ8 \ XJ8WI8V<26>112000000<27>325436534423<8>wuu<11>YJ9VF4SD4<5>421445<9>`THdW \ JfXJ<4>n`IoaIn`I<16>Y54X33Y65<13>skYuo`un`<14>mZT } frm:zappa-1 {; by Miguel Fliguer z=c=pixel: x=z*pixel+c y=c*pixel+z IF ( |x| > |y| ) z = fn1(x)-fn2(y) ELSE z = fn1(fn2(x-y)) ENDIF |z|<4 } Regards, Miguel Fliguer - Buenos Aires, Argentina Franktal Gallery - Shut Up And Draw Yer Fractals http://members.xoom.com/fliguer/franktal.html Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alejandro Kainer" Subject: (fractint) The best band ... Date: 08 Jan 1999 11:07:59 -0300 Hi, guys, I'm sorry I can't do my own fractals as well (I assure you that soon they will be in your screens), but I'm a Frank Zappa's fan too. By now, I'm looking at your fractals and as Miguel Fliguer said, the connection betwe= en complexity in both fractals and Frank's music is, excuse my words, outstanding and amazing. Paul, I'm sure FZ would love it... He does fract= al music, doesn't he? ________________________________ Alejandro Gustavo Kainer Sirti Argentina S.A. Hip=F3lito Irigoyen 4848 (1602) - Florida - Bs.As. ARGENTINA Tel: (54)-1-760-0061 - Int. 1417 / 1418 Fax: (54)-1-760-0095 e-mail: alejandro.kainer@usa.net ________________________________ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Baxter Tocher Subject: Re: (fractint) Gallery Update Date: 08 Jan 1999 18:45:21 +0000 "Fliguer, Miguel" wrote: > >>> Could there be some bizarre connection > >>> between enjoying Zappa's music and being > >>> interested in fractals? I've noticed a few fans > One more reason to love this list ! > > Yes, there is a connection. Zappa's music, just like a well crafted > fractal, is beautiful, complex, sometimes chaotic, and it reveals > more beautiful layers when you dig (or zoom) a bit. Very nicely put, Miguel, and it looks like an appropriate moment for this lurker to say "hello" to the list! I'm a big fan of both FZ as well as fractals. I've been dabbling with fractals for a few years now, firstly on the Atari ST, then on the Amiga (using an earlier version of Fractint amongst others), and now on the PC with Windows 95 (and soon with Linux once I get Fractint working properly there!). I've still a lot to learn about what the program can do; you are all finding some truly beautiful images and writing some wonderful formulae. Nearly forgot - my first two pars. I'll post more when I know a bit more about what I'm doing :) NEONJLRY { ; "Neon Jewellery" t= 0:00:12.36 ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a P150 at 800x600 ; based on "Pinwheel" by Les St Clair ; e-mail to: baxter@trance.ednet.co.uk reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=chby1.frm formulaname=s03-01 passes=1 center-mag=1.33227e-015/-1.33227e-015/0.5324087 params=3.14159265358979/0.7 float=y maxiter=255 inside=bof60 decomp=256 colors=I1B<4>Z1Bb2Cf1A<4>z00<8>zs0zv0zs0<7>z00<8>S2HO2JM2I<12>000<10>O2J\ <8>31a00d04f<8>0cz<7>05g00d20b<8>O2J<12>101201<8>M2HO2JS2H<8>z00<8>zs0zv\ 0zs0<7>z00<9>O2J<2>K2FI2EG2DE2BD2A<5>212000000<4>D1AF1CH1DJ1FM2HO2JK2LK2\ N<6>30b00d04f<8>0cz<7>05g00d20b<8>O2J<13>000<4>A07C19D19D1AE1B } SERPENTR { ; "Serpent Ring" t= 0:00:21.70 ; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a P150 at 800x600 ; based on "Pinwheel" by Les St Clair ; e-mail to: baxter@trance.ednet.co.uk reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=chby1.frm formulaname=s03-01 passes=1 center-mag=8.04912e-016/-9.99201e-016/9.210343/1/22.5 params=3.14159265358979/0.7 float=y maxiter=128 inside=bof61 invert=0.0215459539510404/0/0 decomp=256 colors=HGN<4>JIPKJPLKQMLR<32>jghjghkhikhilij<3>nklnklmjm<20>X7KW5JV3HU1F\ <6>L3MK3NI3M<6>31F00E02F<6>4KT5NV5PV<4>2YV<8>RedUfeVfe<29>ttjuukttjrriqq\ hqqh<2>nlfmjekgc<2>dXZaTXYNU<3>K0KK0K<2>F4KE5KD5K<3>85K66J55I<3>22G11F11\ F11F<7>33I33I44J55J55K<4>CCODDPFFR<3>MMWNNXQQZ<2>WWcZZd``fccheej<2>nnppp\ rttuttupprllojhlffjcch<6>UU_SSZQQWQQW<4>KKQIIPHHOFFMFFM<6>GGN } frm:S03-01(Origin){;V.1.0 - earlier versions may be discarded ; = zS02-S01 t=p1,bailout=4,z=pixel: x=real(z),y=imag(z) Tx=x*(x*x-2) Ty=y*(y*y-2) x=x-t*Ty,y=y+t*Tx z=x+flip(y) |z|<=bailout} -- Baxter baxter@trance.ednet.co.uk Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jacco Burger" Subject: (fractint) We're only in it for the fractals Date: 08 Jan 1999 21:27:32 +0100 When I first tried to think of names for my fractals I really had no inspiration. I didn't want to give them those often used names like 'Neon Spiral' or 'Blue Mandelbrot' or 'Red Alien', but I couldn't think of anything better either... So one day I was sitting, staring at one of my fractals on my computerscreen, thinking and thinking: how should I call this one? At that moment I had a record of Frank Zappa playing, and I heard him singing: "In the dangerous kitchen..... if it ain't one thing it's another...." and I thought: that's it! So I started reading the sleeves of all the LP and CD records I had, and that is how many of my fractals got their names. So if you take a good look at my fractal gallery you might also find some songtitles from other bands and musicians. I am not going to spoil the fun by telling which ones they are, that is for you to discover. A source of inspiration for exotic fractal names are dictionaries of foreign languages. The dictionary also provides you very conveniantly with the meaning of the word so you can be sure you are not using offensive words. This can be tricky, though! I know for instance that some very ordinary Dutch words sound very rude to Polish people.... Another way of finding names is fun and very easy. Just show a fractal to somebody, preferably a child, and ask: "what does this look like?". You will be surprised! At least 3 of my fractals got their names this way. Actually, I am thinking of adding some of this kind of information to my fractals on my webpages. I will let you know in time. I am very curious about other people's sources for names. Anyone who would like to tell about it? Bye! Jacco webgallery: www.caiw.nl/~jaccobu Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ricardo M. Forno" Subject: (fractint) Fractal names Date: 08 Jan 1999 17:42:13 -0300 Jacco: I sometimes use names from my classical music CD collection. Once, for example, I named one of them 'Sprotar', an Icelandic word of which I do not know the meaning yet, but surely it is not offensive. Ricardo. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Naming fractals Date: 08 Jan 1999 14:45:42 -0600 Jacco, - I am very curious about other people's sources for names. Anyone who - would like to tell about it? Normally I just look at the fractal and think of what it reminds me of. That probably accounts for most of the lame names I've used. :-) Often while exploring I will see a shape that makes me think of something, and I'll refine the image in that direction to make it fit the name. Sometimes I'm just totally stumped; at that point, I turn to a few friends for help. I do have one friend who has named several fractals who doesn't know much about fractals at all (just that he likes them). And sometimes it just helps to have someone else look at the images, so that you get a fresh perspective. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damascena@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) We're only in it for the fractals Date: 08 Jan 1999 16:38:36 EST In a message dated 1/8/99 12:32:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, jaccobu@kabelfoon.nl writes: > I am very curious about other people's sources for names. Anyone who > would like to tell about it? Some I name for friends, some for mythological characters, some for my own transient thoughts...... You mentioned using words in other languages. I just found a wonderful site for that, which provides links to languages most of us have never even *heard* of, for translation and even on-line language lessons: http://www.elite.net/~runner/jennifers/languag2.htm BTW I have a Frank Zappa for President tee-shirt.....count me in :) Dama Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Derbyshire Subject: Re: (fractint) We're only in it for the fractals Date: 08 Jan 1999 17:16:30 -0500 At 04:38 PM 1/8/99 EST, you wrote: >In a message dated 1/8/99 12:32:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, >jaccobu@kabelfoon.nl writes: > >> I am very curious about other people's sources for names. Anyone who >> would like to tell about it? > >Some I name for friends, some for mythological characters, some for my own >transient thoughts...... I invent names for mine. If you see "Teralla" or "Krenias" or something similar in an online dictionary it is entirely coincidental. >You mentioned using words in other languages. I just found a wonderful site >for that, which provides links to languages most of us have never even *heard* >of, for translation and even on-line language lessons: > >http://www.elite.net/~runner/jennifers/languag2.htm Thanks! Might be interesting and/or useful. :-) >BTW I have a Frank Zappa for President tee-shirt.....count me in :) How about Gillian Anderson for president-ess? (I don't think there's ever been a red-head in office in the western world.... let alone a lady one.) -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BillatNY@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) video card/makemig Date: 08 Jan 1999 19:27:04 EST Davides, I have also run into this problem. Instead of shelling to DOS, restart the computer in MS-DOS mode. (I am assuming here that you have Windows 95.) Then you should be able to run Makemig with no trouble. Bill Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PKyleCA@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) We're only in it for the fractals Date: 08 Jan 1999 19:51:49 EST In a message dated 01/08/1999 12:32:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, jaccobu@kabelfoon.nl writes: << I am very curious about other people's sources for names. Anyone who would like to tell about it? >> how about http://members.aol.com/vbolug/fractal.htm. Here is where various people get to give them names in a contest format. Amazing to see how many different people think in naming a fractal. Sparks the creative process. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul DeCelle Subject: (fractint) Gallery Update Date: 08 Jan 1999 21:19:52 -0500 Hi, Everyone-- Miguel Fliguer wrote: >Yes, there is a connection. Zappa's music, just like a well crafted >fractal, is beautiful, complex, sometimes chaotic, and it reveals >more beautiful layers when you dig (or zoom) a bit. Miguel makes a good point - I never really thought about it that way, but it does make a lot of sense.. Damascena, About that tee shirt - he'd certainly do a better job of it than the one we have now. Wear it with pride! In keeping with the theme, here's a par from the Zappa_1 formula Miguel posted earlier today - Took more than 30 minutes on my P60, but worth the wait.. Oddly, activating floating point caused the fanlike structures to disappear, resulting in a very different image. Anyone know why? Regards, Paul DeCelle Fossil_Floss { ; A Fossilized Dental Floss Bush ; From the Zappa-1 formula t=30+min P60 ; Paul DeCelle 1/8/98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=zappa-1 function=tan/tanh passes=1 center-mag=-0.21433481550000000/+0.50233301550000000/94.35625/0.9997/-85\ .174 potential=255/50000/0 colors=00504B<2>029029128128117<2>216EEF<114>wvywvywvywvywvy<24>wvyvuxvu\ xutwutw<67>MILLHKMIL<21>mkn00305C04C } frm:zappa-1 {; by Miguel Fliguer z=c=pixel: x=z*pixel+c y=c*pixel+z IF ( |x| > |y| ) z = fn1(x)-fn2(y) ELSE z = fn1(fn2(x-y)) ENDIF |z|<4 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul DeCelle Subject: Re: (fractint) Gallery Update Date: 08 Jan 1999 21:58:29 -0500 Baxter Tocher wrote: > I'm a big fan of both FZ as well as fractals. :-) :-) > Nearly forgot - my first two pars. I'll post more when I know a bit more > about what I'm doing :) > Welcome, Baxter! Very nice images. Just took a little text editing to format them for Fractint. I find that (using Netscape and Notepad, anyway), if I delete any open spaces at the beginning of each line of the par where the parameters and color info is contained before I send, it transmits true. You can check by opening your posting after you've sent it by opening it from the "Sent" folder. Other browsers probably have similar features.. I look forward to seeing more of your work.. Regards, Paul DeCelle Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul DeCelle Subject: Re: (fractint) We're only in it for the fractals Date: 08 Jan 1999 22:26:05 -0500 PKyleCA@aol.com wrote: > > how about http://members.aol.com/vbolug/fractal.htm. Here is where various > people get to give them names in a contest format. Amazing to see how many > different people think in naming a fractal. Sparks the creative process. I checked this out - A pretty nice site. I entered a vote, but my e-mail was returned "undeliverable" with the following: >The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could >not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a >general translation for other e-mail servers. <<< 550 VBOLUG IS NOT ACCEPTING MAIL FROM THIS SENDER It's an AOL address; It may only be intended for AOL members.. Anyone else experience this? Regards, Paul DeCelle Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Springer Subject: (fractint) Infinity and All Things Date: 08 Jan 1999 19:57:49 -0800 Hi Everyone... We have all heard that a Fractal is Self-Similar (but not Self-Identical) at increasing magnifications. This means adjacent consecutive magnification levels are not identical. Maybe very close, but not identical. But might a (perhaps very long) sequence of such adjacent levels not Start and End with Self-Identical shapes??? If so, perhaps this sequence may repeat indefinitely in what I would call a "linear" manner. This is comparable to leaving your home for a walk and always taking the same route and then returning. This is the "First Possibility". The "Second Possibility" is that the second sequence may traverse different shapes than the first yet still return to the identical "Starter/Ender" pattern in what I would call a "rooted" wave pattern. This is comparable to leaving your home for a walk and taking a different route each time but always returning to the "home" location (location=pattern). The "Third Possibility" is the zoom changes are in no way repetitive but are open ended, ever changing and ever different. Now, since the Fractal zoom levels continue without end, then if the First Possibility applied, only a finite number of shapes would be generated. But, if the Second or Third Possibilities applied, an Infinite number of shapes would be generated. This means the sum total of "All Possible Shapes" which COULD be generated, percieved or imagined would be generated by... Mandelbrot to power 2 Mandelbrot to power 3 Mandelbrot to power 4... etcetera, etcetera and so forth. So, somewhere deep within EACH Mandelbrot lurks not only a Mona Lisa, but the entire Works all of ALL the Artists who have ever been and will ever be... PLUS a fair bit of just plain gobbledegook. These same images (the "Infinite Set") would arise from ALL Mandelbrots, regardless of to what power. So, at "Infinity", the outputs generated by ALL Fractal types, to whatever power, becomes the same, namely "every shape that can possibly be". Strange!!! There is of course one possible fly in the ointment of this Fanciful Flight to Fractal Infinity... If the successive zoom differences gave increasingly smaller pattern differences such that these tinier amd tinear differences asymtopically approaches zero... never ceasing to change, but with changes becoming literally infinitesimally small... then, no more Mona Lisa. So, what do you folks, many much brighter than me, think??? Or does this kind of thing just give you a headache? Christopher Springer Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Mitchell Subject: Re: (fractint) Infinity and All Things Date: 08 Jan 1999 22:20:11 -0700 (MST) On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Christopher Springer wrote: > The "Third Possibility" is the zoom changes are in no way repetitive > but are open ended, ever changing and ever different. To my understanding, this is the case. Each "midget" is slightly warped with respect to the main cardioid; the relative warping is different for each midget. > So, somewhere deep within EACH Mandelbrot lurks > not only a Mona Lisa, but the entire Works all of ALL > the Artists who have ever been and will ever be... > PLUS a fair bit of just plain gobbledegook. This is a common mistake, confusing "infinite" with "containing everything". The Mandelbrot set truly is infinite, that is, going on (in) forever, but it certainly doesn't contain everything. It's similar to a sequence of numbers. Consider any infinite sequence of the digits 0-9. No matter what sequence you choose or how long you look, you'll never find the sequence "THIS SPACE FOR RENT" in the sequence. In the same vein, you'll not find a Mona Lisa in the Mandelbrot set. Kerry Mitchell Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PKyleCA@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) We're only in it for the fractals Date: 09 Jan 1999 00:49:41 EST In a message dated 1/8/99 7:24:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, PaulDC@prodigy.net writes: << >The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could >not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a >general translation for other e-mail servers. <<< 550 VBOLUG IS NOT ACCEPTING MAIL FROM THIS SENDER It's an AOL address; It may only be intended for AOL members.. Anyone else experience this? >> Try again. AOL has its peak times where it tends to do this. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jon Camp" Subject: Re: (fractint) Infinity and All Things Date: 08 Jan 1999 22:37:25 -0800 But what if we took at, say, pi. Some where in the sequence of digits we will find a representation of the words "This space is for rent" i.e.. 20 08 09 19 19 16 01 03 05 ..... If we digitized the Mona Lisa into say 100 colors, and then made a sequence out of the picture, line by line, we would have a finite sequence that would have to exist inside of an infinite sequence. Could not the same thing be said about a fractal? If we take a line straight across a given fractal and obtain a sequence of numbers, won't there be an infinite number of possible sequences? Just my thoughts.... :) Jon Camp Valparaiso University chaotic n-space network http://www.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/fractals_gate.html -----Original Message----- >On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Christopher Springer wrote: > >> The "Third Possibility" is the zoom changes are in no way repetitive >> but are open ended, ever changing and ever different. > >To my understanding, this is the case. Each "midget" is slightly warped >with respect to the main cardioid; the relative warping is different for >each midget. > >> So, somewhere deep within EACH Mandelbrot lurks >> not only a Mona Lisa, but the entire Works all of ALL >> the Artists who have ever been and will ever be... >> PLUS a fair bit of just plain gobbledegook. > >This is a common mistake, confusing "infinite" with "containing >everything". The Mandelbrot set truly is infinite, that is, going on (in) >forever, but it certainly doesn't contain everything. It's similar to a >sequence of numbers. Consider any infinite sequence of the digits 0-9. >No matter what sequence you choose or how long you look, you'll never find >the sequence "THIS SPACE FOR RENT" in the sequence. In the same vein, >you'll not find a Mona Lisa in the Mandelbrot set. > >Kerry Mitchell > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Mitchell Subject: Re: (fractint) Infinity and All Things Date: 08 Jan 1999 23:59:51 -0700 (MST) On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Jon Camp wrote: > But what if we took at, say, pi. Some where in the sequence of digits we > will find a representation of the words "This space is for rent" i.e.. 20 08 > 09 19 19 16 01 03 05 ..... Strictly speaking: probably, but not necessarily. If pi is what is called a "normal" number, then its decimal representation contains all finite strings of the digits 0-9. However, pi's normality has not yet been proven. But more generally, there are infinite, non-repeating numbers that won't contain even your decimal representation of "This space is for rent", such as the number 0.10010000100000000100000000000000001... > If we digitized the Mona Lisa into say 100 colors, and then made a sequence > out of the picture, line by line, we would have a finite sequence that would > have to exist inside of an infinite sequence. Could not the same thing be ^^^^ No--just because a sequence is infinite, that doesn't mean that it necessarily contains all finite sequences. > said about a fractal? If we take a line straight across a given fractal and > obtain a sequence of numbers, won't there be an infinite number of possible > sequences? If you go to digitizing the Mona Lisa, then I'm sure you could find it somewhere in the Mandelbrot set with some suitable transformations. But that would border on tweaking the answer to fit the problem, rather than truly finding another image in an infinite fractal. These are subtle points, and I don't mean to stomp on your thoughts, just help clarify them. Kerry Kerry Mitchell lkmitch@primenet.com www.primenet.com/~lkmitch/ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Barry N Merenoff <110144.2274@compuserve.com> Subject: (fractint) video modes Date: 09 Jan 1999 02:04:20 -0500 I have a Hitachi SuperScan Pro 600 monitor and a Trident 9660/968x/938x Linear Accelerated for PCI (v5.00.12) version 211. My screen resolution i= s 1600x1200x256. How do I get this resolution in Fractint? BTW, thank you, Kerry Mitchell, for explaining the flaw in that argument = on infinity. I was going to send in something like that, but I couldn't have= said it better than you! BTW, has anyone ever tried to categorize these distortions? And is the set of midgits countable? Collin Merenoff Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Mitchell Subject: Re: (fractint) video modes Date: 09 Jan 1999 00:16:51 -0700 (MST) On Sat, 9 Jan 1999, Barry N Merenoff wrote: > I have a Hitachi SuperScan Pro 600 monitor and a Trident 9660/968x/938x > Linear Accelerated for PCI (v5.00.12) version 211. My screen resolution is > 1600x1200x256. How do I get this resolution in Fractint? Have you tried the mode that Sylvie Gallet wrote? It's for a Matrox Millenium 1600x1200, but it may work. > BTW, thank you, Kerry Mitchell, for explaining the flaw in that argument on > infinity. I was going to send in something like that, but I couldn't have > said it better than you! BTW, has anyone ever tried to categorize these > distortions? And is the set of midgits countable? Thanks for the kind words. I was able to respond like that because I had the same question years ago and got the same response. Likewise, I argued that the set of midgets was uncountable, and was quite resoundly corrected. The short answers seem to be: 1) to every midget, a rational number can be assigned. Thus, the set is countable. 2) Since every midget has an area, the set must be countable since the whole collection fits within the circle of radius 2. Regarding the distortions, several years ago, Michael Frame (of Union College) and I wrote a paper about the distortions within a particular midget, as opposed to distortions of the midgets (I mention this because I think there may be some similarity). The disks along the boundary of the cardioid of a midget are located and sized according to a simple general rule. However, the actual disks are distorted slightly from this rule. The distortions are distributed "fractally". That is, when plotting the distortions, a "fractal" results. The quotes are required because the set of distortions is a countable set, and thus cannot be a true fractal. Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised to see that midget distortions were also "fractally" distributed. Kerry Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Mitchell Subject: Re: (fractint) video modes Date: 09 Jan 1999 00:16:51 -0700 (MST) On Sat, 9 Jan 1999, Barry N Merenoff wrote: > I have a Hitachi SuperScan Pro 600 monitor and a Trident 9660/968x/938x > Linear Accelerated for PCI (v5.00.12) version 211. My screen resolution is > 1600x1200x256. How do I get this resolution in Fractint? Have you tried the mode that Sylvie Gallet wrote? It's for a Matrox Millenium 1600x1200, but it may work. > BTW, thank you, Kerry Mitchell, for explaining the flaw in that argument on > infinity. I was going to send in something like that, but I couldn't have > said it better than you! BTW, has anyone ever tried to categorize these > distortions? And is the set of midgits countable? Thanks for the kind words. I was able to respond like that because I had the same question years ago and got the same response. Likewise, I argued that the set of midgets was uncountable, and was quite resoundly corrected. The short answers seem to be: 1) to every midget, a rational number can be assigned. Thus, the set is countable. 2) Since every midget has an area, the set must be countable since the whole collection fits within the circle of radius 2. Regarding the distortions, several years ago, Michael Frame (of Union College) and I wrote a paper about the distortions within a particular midget, as opposed to distortions of the midgets (I mention this because I think there may be some similarity). The disks along the boundary of the cardioid of a midget are located and sized according to a simple general rule. However, the actual disks are distorted slightly from this rule. The distortions are distributed "fractally". That is, when plotting the distortions, a "fractal" results. The quotes are required because the set of distortions is a countable set, and thus cannot be a true fractal. Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised to see that midget distortions were also "fractally" distributed. Kerry Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimBeau549@aol.com Subject: (fractint) 3D overlay par Date: 09 Jan 1999 04:13:57 EST Hi All, Here is my first attempt at making a parfile for a 3d overlay image. It's nothing special but I thought I'd post anyway, just in case someone hasn't seen how to batch a 3d pic yet. More to come later. Enjoy~ JimWeaver ************************************************* barneps5.gif { ; image(c)1999 Jim Weaver (save this image 1st) t=46sec+ reset=1960 type=barnsleym1 passes=t center-mag=0.627662/1.28824/27.70908/1/105 params=-0.9/0 float=y maxiter=255 bailoutest=imag inside=epsiloncross outside=atan invert=1/0.9/0 periodicity=0 savename=barneps5.gif colors=000423<8>wuu<11>YJ9VF4SD4<5>421445<9>`THdWJfXJ<4>n`IoaIn`I<16>Y54\ X33Y65<13>skYuo`un`<4>riYqhYogX<31>221000101<17>J4AK4AL4BM5BN6BP7B<26>xd\ EzfFyeF<28>K7CI5BH5A<2>E4873D<9>112000000<27>325436534 } stars(background) { ; image(c)1999 Jim Weaver ; use @ and run 3d_operation after this image has drawn reset=1960 type=mandelcloud passes=t center-mag=-0.16435972629521090/+0.00000000000000663/1.063499/1.0633/-46\ .153/11.286 params=35 float=y maxiter=1000 periodicity=0 colors=00000e0e00eee00e0eeL0eeeLLLLLzLzLLzzzLLzLzzzLzzz000555<3>HHHKKKOO\ OSSSWWW___ccchhhmmmssszzz00z<3>z0z<3>z00<3>zz0<3>0z0<3>0zz<2>0GzVVz<3>zV\ z<3>zVV<3>zzV<3>VzV<3>Vzz<2>Vbzhhz<3>zhz<3>zhh<3>zzh<3>hzh<3>hzz<2>hlz00\ S<3>S0S<3>S00<3>SS0<3>0S0<3>0SS<2>07SEES<3>SES<3>SEE<3>SSE<3>ESE<3>ESS<2\ >EHSKKS<2>QKSSKSSKQSKOSKMSKK<2>SQKSSKQSKOSKMSKKSK<2>KSQKSSKQSKOSKMS00G<3\ >G0G<3>G00<3>GG0<3>0G0<3>0GG<2>04G88G<2>E8GG8GG8EG8CG8AG88<2>GE8GG8EG8CG\ 8AG88G8<2>8GE8GG8EG8CG8AGBBG<2>FBGGBGGBFGBDGBCGBB<2>GFBGGBFGBDGBCGBBGB<2\ >BGFBGGBFGBDGBCG000<6>000 } 3d_operation { ; image(c)1999 Jim Weaver Enjoy! ; 3d=overlay filename=barneps5.gif scalexyz=100/100 roughness=0 waterline=0 transparent=6/6 ambient=20 rotation=0/0/0 perspective=0 xyshift=0/0 colors=000NJE<13>000<18>J4AK4AL4BM5BN6BP7B<26>xdEzfFyeF<28>K7CI5BH5A<2>E\ 4873D<9>112000000<27>325436534423<8>wuu<11>YJ9VF4SD4<5>421445<9>`THdWJfX\ J<4>n`IoaIn`I<16>Y54X33Y65<13>skYuo`un`<4>riYqhYogX<17>OKF } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Barry N Merenoff <110144.2274@compuserve.com> Subject: (fractint) video modes Date: 09 Jan 1999 06:30:23 -0500 Thanks for the suggestions, but I've tried Sylvie Gallet's mode -- and Da= n Paccaloni's mode. They both give an error message. I've also tried variou= s ways of adding my own mode in FRACTINT.CFG, but it either draws in the wrong places or freezes. I think the way to do it will involve modifying the source code, but I'll need a little help with this. Collin Merenoff Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Derbyshire Subject: Re: (fractint) video modes Date: 09 Jan 1999 08:00:56 -0500 The set of midgets is countable... for each period from 1 upwards there is a finite collection of midgets whose cardioid has this period. Thus the midgets comprise a countable union of finite sets, whichis countable. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) video modes Date: 09 Jan 1999 08:33:52 -0500 Hi Collin, >> Thanks for the suggestions, but I've tried Sylvie Gallet's mode -- and= >> Dan Paccaloni's mode. They both give an error message. I've also tried= >> various ways of adding my own mode in FRACTINT.CFG, but it either draw= s >> in the wrong places or freezes. Download the following file from my web site: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Sylvie_Gallet/vesa2cfg.zip Run vesa2cfg.exe and email me the file qpv.cfg it will create. Cheers, - Sylvie E-mail: Sylvie_Gallet@CompuServe.com Visit my exhibit at Museum of Computer Art: http://www.dorsai.org/~moca/ My Fractal Galleries: http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/sylvie/gallet.html http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Sylvie_Gallet/homepage.htm Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Hine" Subject: Re: (fractint) Infinity and All Things Date: 09 Jan 1999 12:13:55 -0500 -----Original Message----- >On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Jon Camp wrote: > >> But what if we took at, say, pi. Some where in the sequence of digits we >> will find a representation of the words "This space is for rent" i.e.. 20 08 >> 09 19 19 16 01 03 05 ..... > and on 1/9, Kerry replied: > >Strictly speaking: probably, but not necessarily. If pi is what is >called a "normal" number, then its decimal representation contains all >finite strings of the digits 0-9. However, pi's normality has not yet >been proven. But more generally, there are infinite, non-repeating >numbers that won't contain even your decimal representation of "This space >is for rent", such as the number 0.10010000100000000100000000000000001... For a good, concise, and simple description of this problem, check out: http://www.ast.univie.ac.at/~wasi/PI/pi_normal.html > >> If we digitized the Mona Lisa into say 100 colors, and then made a sequence >> out of the picture, line by line, we would have a finite sequence that would >> have to exist inside of an infinite sequence. Could not the same thing be > ^^^^ > No--just because a sequence is infinite, that doesn't mean that it >necessarily contains all finite sequences. > >> said about a fractal? If we take a line straight across a given fractal and >> obtain a sequence of numbers, won't there be an infinite number of possible >> sequences? > >If you go to digitizing the Mona Lisa, then I'm sure you could find it >somewhere in the Mandelbrot set with some suitable transformations. But >that would border on tweaking the answer to fit the problem, rather than >truly finding another image in an infinite fractal. Kerry's right... this is tweaking the answer to fit the problem, but if the tweak results in the appearance of meaningful relationships between answers, then it might just be a good idea. For example, if the same coding method were applied to the name "Leonardo DaVinci" and to the Mona Lisa, and the resulting encoded number sequences were found in close proximity (or intermingled?) within pi, it might make us go "hmm." And if that same coding method had similar results when applied to other situations, and a recognizable pattern began to appear in the relationships of the encoded number sequences within pi, it might make us go "hmm!" If what's being proposed is possible at all, I kinda doubt we're going to reason our way to the correct "coding method"... things in our universe might be encoded/contained within the structure of the Mandelbrot set in a number of different ways; perhaps in the relative angles and lengths of different filaments, the relative position and orientation of baby brots, the relative "roughness" (read: fractal dimension) of a filament or baby brot at a given resolution/magnification... lotsa parameters to play with here! And might we need to consider the hypercomplex Mandelbrot? I personally believe some good stuff along these lines await those willing to explore the possibilities. And now for a par >:') monalisa { ; Time: 462.5 hrs on ; a PII266 ; 144 decimal places reset=1960 type=mandel passes=1 center-mag=-0.22563063284104807566410639404\ 69227820046699558432459993619\ 678982729428177074751376141733506809848938\ 929300302683606404912778251442\ 30441208847849/0.81188676437233157170463228\ 83932476187633796780685500735\ 668701233494887105445128647138527626138028\ 567972428051471821127845598201\ 48238895886674325/5.5406e+138/1/47.704 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=63031 logmap=34831 colors=@webdeep5.map } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Hine" Subject: Re: (fractint) Infinity and All Things Date: 09 Jan 1999 12:21:47 -0500 Oops, I forgot to record colors! >maxiter=63031 logmap=34831 colors=@webdeep5.map If anyone wants a par that'll actually run with the colors I came up with, email me and I'll send it... or better yet, wait a few hours and I'll have it up on my web page at http://boralf.agsci.colostate.edu/~jason/personal/deeper.html Cheers! 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