From: "William S. Morton" Subject: (fractint) first post Date: 05 Sep 1999 12:31:04 -0700 To whom any of this may concern; I'm a beginner in fractals, have a 350mh presario w/ Windows98, dabbled w/ Winfract, and am currently trying to figure out how to get frain196(Fractint for DOS) to run. I have minimal DOS experience, but have been successful running DOS generators that auto-start. Frain196 and a few other generators like it remain 'un-openable' for me. If you can tell me in sub-layman/'duh,duh' hand-held English(even ebonics) how to begin running Fractint, I will be most grateful! Thanks! Sarge Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Theo Bakker Subject: (fractint) Handleiding. Date: 05 Sep 1999 22:21:28 +0200 Onlangs heb ik (in Word) een nederlandstalige gebruikershandleiding geschreven. Wil je 'm hebben, mail mij dat dan even. Groetjes, Theo. -- Theo Bakker theo.bertie@consunet.nl H. Roland Holstlaan 29 UIN 8400214 (ICQ) 2162 JE Lisse 0252-413775 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL RAY Subject: Re: (fractint) first post Date: 05 Sep 1999 18:31:10 -0400 I had the same problem and someone suggested that I reboot in DOS. When I did that and arrived at the DOS screen I was able to get Fractint 19.6 to work without a problem. Just in case you might not know how, call up the Windows Start Menu either by clicking on the "Start" button on the lower left-hand side of your task bar. Alternatively, you can press the "Windows" key (it's the key with the Windows logo on its face) between the "Ctrl" and "Alt" keys on either side of the space bar.. This will also bring up the Start menu. Choose "shut down" on the bottom of the menu and then click "Restart the computer in MS-DOS mode". Good luck and enjoy Fractint. The DOS version is much better than Winfract. "William S. Morton" wrote: > To whom any of this may concern; > I'm a beginner in fractals, have a 350mh presario w/ Windows98, > dabbled w/ Winfract, and am currently trying to figure out how > to get frain196(Fractint for DOS) to run. > I have minimal DOS experience, but have been successful running > DOS generators that auto-start. Frain196 and a few other generators > like it remain 'un-openable' for me. > If you can tell me in sub-layman/'duh,duh' hand-held English(even > ebonics) > how to begin running Fractint, I will be most grateful! > Thanks! > Sarge > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) Re: first post Date: 05 Sep 1999 20:13:20 -0400 (EDT) At 12:31 PM 9/5/99 -0700, you wrote: >To whom any of this may concern; >I'm a beginner in fractals, have a 350mh presario w/ Windows98, >dabbled w/ Winfract, and am currently trying to figure out how >to get frain196(Fractint for DOS) to run. >I have minimal DOS experience, but have been successful running >DOS generators that auto-start. Frain196 and a few other generators >like it remain 'un-openable' for me. >If you can tell me in sub-layman/'duh,duh' hand-held English(even >ebonics) >how to begin running Fractint, I will be most grateful! >Thanks! > Sarge > Did you unzip the file? If I remember correctly, frain196 is a compressed archive file which must be unzipped before it can be run. The actual Fractint executable file is Jim M. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Terry Erickson" Subject: (fractint) Running "frain196.zip" Date: 05 Sep 1999 18:57:51 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BEF7D0.8DD5A640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sarge- If you don't already know, and excuse me if you do, You can get = Winzip at just about any download website, like Tucows or Cnet or = Winfiles.com . It is very useful in Windows for unzipping files. There = are also a couple of other uncompressor programs out there, too.=20 Anyway, I think this is a good way to run Fractint (DOS version) : Go to your root directory (C:\ - your hard drive) Create a directory (folder) called Fractint in there. Unzip "frain196" into it. If you've got Winzip installed, it's easy- = double-click the "frain196.zip" icon. Choose "extract" . In the Extract = to: box, type C:\Fractint to send it into the folder you created.=20 Now all the files are in the Fractint directory in C: . Click "shut down, and "restart in DOS mode, " and type=20 "CD\" at the prompt. enter. Then type "fractint" and it should run.=20 You'll figger it out from there.=20 Fractint will create a word.doc that explains a lot of the functions. I = forget how to make it do that . . . One thing I'll tell you is that "page up" is to zoom in.=20 Hit "enter" to zooom in , and "ctrl-enter" to zooom out. You can hit "c" twice to begin color cycling. "esc." and "s" to save. Aloha. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BEF7D0.8DD5A640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sarge- If you don't already know, and excuse me if = you do, You=20 can get Winzip at just about any download website, like Tucows or Cnet = or=20 Winfiles.com . It is very useful in Windows for unzipping files. There = are also=20 a couple of other uncompressor programs out there, too.
Anyway, I think this is a good way to run Fractint = (DOS=20 version) :
Go to your root directory (C:\ - your hard = drive)
Create a directory (folder) called Fractint in=20 there.
Unzip "frain196" into it.  If you've got Winzip = installed, it's easy- double-click the "frain196.zip" icon. Choose = "extract" .=20 In the Extract to: box, type  C:\Fractint  to send it into the = folder=20 you created.
Now all the files are in the Fractint directory in = C:=20 .
Click "shut down, and "restart in DOS mode, "  = and type=20
"CD\" at the prompt.
enter.
Then type "fractint"
and it should run.
You'll figger it out from there.
Fractint will create a word.doc that explains a lot = of the=20 functions. I forget how to make it do that . . .
One thing I'll tell you is that "page up" is to zoom = in.=20
Hit "enter" to zooom in , and "ctrl-enter" to zooom=20 out.
You can hit "c" twice to begin color = cycling.
"esc." and "s" to save.
Aloha.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BEF7D0.8DD5A640-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Terry Erickson" Subject: (fractint) running FRACTINT 19.6 Date: 05 Sep 1999 19:45:53 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BEF7D7.4360CFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry- I forgot part of the DOS part. This is a revised version. Sarge- If you don't already know, and excuse me if you do, You can get = Winzip at just about any download website, like Tucows or Cnet or = Winfiles.com . It is very useful in Windows for unzipping files. There = are also a couple of other uncompressor programs out there, too.=20 Anyway, I think this is a good way to run Fractint (DOS version) : Go to your root directory (C:\ - your hard drive) Create a directory (folder) called Fractint in there. Unzip "frain196" into it. If you've got Winzip installed, it's easy- = double-click the "frain196.zip" icon. Choose "extract" . In the Extract = to: box, type C:\Fractint to send it into the folder you created.=20 Now all the files are in the Fractint directory in C: . ------------ Click "shut down, and "restart in DOS mode, " and type=20 "cd\" at the prompt. enter. Type "cd fractint" , "enter" to change the default directory.=20 You should see the prompt, "C:\FRACTINT" on your screen.=20 Then type "fractint" and it should run.=20 You'll figger it out from there.=20 Fractint will create a word.doc that explains a lot of the functions. I = forget how to make it do that . . . One thing I'll tell you is that "page up" is to zoom in.=20 Hit "enter" to zooom in , and "ctrl-enter" to zooom out. You can hit "c" twice to begin color cycling. "esc." and "s" to save. Aloha. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BEF7D7.4360CFC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry- I forgot part of the DOS part. This is a = revised=20 version.
 
Sarge- If you don't already know, and excuse me if = you do, You=20 can get Winzip at just about any download website, like Tucows or Cnet = or=20 Winfiles.com . It is very useful in Windows for unzipping files. There = are also=20 a couple of other uncompressor programs out there, too.
Anyway, I think this is a good way to run Fractint = (DOS=20 version) :
Go to your root directory (C:\ - your hard = drive)
Create a directory (folder) called Fractint in=20 there.
Unzip "frain196" into it.  If you've got Winzip = installed, it's easy- double-click the "frain196.zip" icon. Choose = "extract" .=20 In the Extract to: box, type  C:\Fractint  to send it into the = folder=20 you created.
Now all the files are in the Fractint directory in = C:=20 .
------------
Click "shut down, and "restart in DOS mode, "  = and type=20
"cd\" at the prompt.
enter.
Type "cd fractint" , "enter" to change the default directory. =
You should see the prompt, "C:\FRACTINT" on your screen.
Then type "fractint"
and it should run.
You'll figger it out from there.
Fractint will create a word.doc that explains a lot = of the=20 functions. I forget how to make it do that . . .
One thing I'll tell you is that "page up" is to zoom = in.=20
Hit "enter" to zooom in , and "ctrl-enter" to zooom=20 out.
You can hit "c" twice to begin color = cycling.
"esc." and "s" to save.
Aloha.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BEF7D7.4360CFC0-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Luc-Andr=E9_Rey?=" Subject: (fractint) The fractal's artist of the month - update Date: 07 Sep 1999 14:53:21 +0200 Hello, New pages in the site. The fractal's artist of this month is Sylvie Gallet. (I'ts still possible to admire the pictures of Lee Skinner, "Fractal's artist of the month of august). Regards Luc-Andre http://www.aour.ch Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William S. Morton" Subject: Re: (fractint) running FRACTINT 19.6 Date: 06 Sep 1999 12:34:33 -0700 --------------C2FE4B351DD703086A6FD42F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I unzipped it incorrectly the 1st time around, so I re-downloaded it, followed your instructions(unzip to Fractint folder in C directory) and now it auto-runs perfectly when I double- click it while in Windows98! One question, though. Will I get deep-zooming ONLY if I restart in MSDOS mode, or can I still do that while in Windows98? Anyway...THANKS!!! Sarge Terry Erickson wrote: > Sorry- I forgot part of the DOS part. This is a revised > version. Sarge- If you don't already know, and excuse me if you do, > You can get Winzip at just about any download website, like Tucows or > Cnet or Winfiles.com . It is very useful in Windows for unzipping > files. There are also a couple of other uncompressor programs out > there, too.Anyway, I think this is a good way to run Fractint (DOS > version) :Go to your root directory (C:\ - your hard drive)Create a > directory (folder) called Fractint in there.Unzip "frain196" into it. > If you've got Winzip installed, it's easy- double-click the > "frain196.zip" icon. Choose "extract" . In the Extract to: box, type > C:\Fractint to send it into the folder you created.Now all the files > are in the Fractint directory in C: .------------Click "shut down, and > "restart in DOS mode, " and type"cd\" at the prompt.enter.Type "cd > fractint" , "enter" to change the default directory.You should see the > prompt, "C:\FRACTINT" on your screen.Then type "fractint"and it should > run.You'll figger it out from there.Fractint will create a word.doc > that explains a lot of the functions. I forget how to make it do that > . . .One thing I'll tell you is that "page up" is to zoom in.Hit > "enter" to zooom in , and "ctrl-enter" to zooom out.You can hit "c" > twice to begin color cycling."esc." and "s" to save.Aloha. --------------C2FE4B351DD703086A6FD42F Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I unzipped it incorrectly the 1st time around, so I
re-downloaded it, followed your instructions(unzip to Fractint folder
in C directory) and now it auto-runs perfectly when I double-
click it while in Windows98! One question, though. Will I get
deep-zooming ONLY if I restart in MSDOS mode, or can I
still do that while in Windows98?
Anyway...THANKS!!!
                                       Sarge

Terry Erickson wrote:

Sorry- I forgot part of the DOS part. This is a revised version. Sarge- If you don't already know, and excuse me if you do, You can get Winzip at just about any download website, like Tucows or Cnet or Winfiles.com . It is very useful in Windows for unzipping files. There are also a couple of other uncompressor programs out there, too.Anyway, I think this is a good way to run Fractint (DOS version) :Go to your root directory (C:\ - your hard drive)Create a directory (folder) called Fractint in there.Unzip "frain196" into it.  If you've got Winzip installed, it's easy- double-click the "frain196.zip" icon. Choose "extract" . In the Extract to: box, type  C:\Fractint  to send it into the folder you created.Now all the files are in the Fractint directory in C: .------------Click "shut down, and "restart in DOS mode, "  and type"cd\" at the prompt.enter.Type "cd fractint" , "enter" to change the default directory.You should see the prompt, "C:\FRACTINT" on your screen.Then type "fractint"and it should run.You'll figger it out from there.Fractint will create a word.doc that explains a lot of the functions. I forget how to make it do that . . .One thing I'll tell you is that "page up" is to zoom in.Hit "enter" to zooom in , and "ctrl-enter" to zooom out.You can hit "c" twice to begin color cycling."esc." and "s" to save.Aloha. 
--------------C2FE4B351DD703086A6FD42F-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William S. Morton" Subject: Re: (fractint) first post Date: 06 Sep 1999 12:36:13 -0700 I unzipped it CORRECTLY this time around! Now it auto-starts while in Windows98! Thanks!!! Sarge BILL RAY wrote: > I had the same problem and someone suggested that I reboot in DOS. When > I did that and arrived at the DOS screen I was able to get Fractint 19.6 > to work without a problem. > > Just in case you might not know how, call up the Windows Start Menu > either by clicking on the "Start" button on the lower left-hand side of > your task bar. Alternatively, you can press the "Windows" key (it's the > key with the Windows logo on its face) between the "Ctrl" and "Alt" keys > on either side of the space bar.. This will also bring up the Start > menu. Choose "shut down" on the bottom of the menu and then click > "Restart the computer in MS-DOS mode". Good luck and enjoy Fractint. > The DOS version is much better than Winfract. > > "William S. Morton" wrote: > > > To whom any of this may concern; > > I'm a beginner in fractals, have a 350mh presario w/ Windows98, > > dabbled w/ Winfract, and am currently trying to figure out how > > to get frain196(Fractint for DOS) to run. > > I have minimal DOS experience, but have been successful running > > DOS generators that auto-start. Frain196 and a few other generators > > like it remain 'un-openable' for me. > > If you can tell me in sub-layman/'duh,duh' hand-held English(even > > ebonics) > > how to begin running Fractint, I will be most grateful! > > Thanks! > > Sarge > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William S. Morton" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: first post Date: 06 Sep 1999 12:37:54 -0700 I unzipped it CORRECTLY this time around. Now it auto- runs when I click on it while in Windows98! THANKS!!! Sarge Jim Muth wrote: > At 12:31 PM 9/5/99 -0700, you wrote: > >To whom any of this may concern; > >I'm a beginner in fractals, have a 350mh presario w/ Windows98, > >dabbled w/ Winfract, and am currently trying to figure out how > >to get frain196(Fractint for DOS) to run. > >I have minimal DOS experience, but have been successful running > >DOS generators that auto-start. Frain196 and a few other generators > >like it remain 'un-openable' for me. > >If you can tell me in sub-layman/'duh,duh' hand-held English(even > >ebonics) > >how to begin running Fractint, I will be most grateful! > >Thanks! > > Sarge > > > > Did you unzip the file? If I remember correctly, frain196 is a > compressed archive file which must be unzipped before it can be run. > The actual Fractint executable file is > > Jim M. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Terry Erickson" Subject: (fractint) resources Date: 06 Sep 1999 21:18:37 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BEF8AD.6229F4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sarge- I don't know how deep, but Fractint will zoom pretty deep under = Windows98. You may not notice much difference, except that the mouse = doesn't work under DOS only. I'm sure that's not the only difference, = though. ;-) I like to shut down Windows and run Fractint in "DOS mode", = 'cause then I think Windows is not there (supposedly) to use up system = resources. I do know that I am no expert, but there is an excellent resource for us = which has been prepared by generous and dedicated individuals at- http://fractal.mta.ca/fractint/findex.html#seach_anchor and there are more fun things to learn back at the Fractint website, http://fractal.mta.ca/fractint/fractint.html ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BEF8AD.6229F4A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sarge- I don't know how deep, but Fractint will = zoom=20 pretty deep under Windows98. You may not notice much difference, except = that the=20 mouse doesn't work under DOS only. I'm sure that's not the only = difference,=20 though. ;-)  I like to shut down Windows and = run=20 Fractint in "DOS mode", 'cause then I think Windows is not there = (supposedly) to=20 use up system resources.
I do know that I am no expert, but there is an = excellent=20 resource for us which has been prepared by generous and dedicated = individuals=20 at-
http://f= ractal.mta.ca/fractint/findex.html#seach_anchor
and there are more fun things to learn back at the = Fractint=20 website,
http://fractal.mta.= ca/fractint/fractint.html
------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BEF8AD.6229F4A0-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RENRAD1@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Ragweed par Date: 07 Sep 1999 00:57:02 EDT IN a moment of lapse, I've lost Bill at NY's recent ragweed ifs post-would some kind soul forward a copy of the first e-mail with the main corpus to me off the list, please? renrad1@aol.com is the address. Thank you very much, in advance! ~~ren Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) running FRACTINT 19.6 Date: 06 Sep 1999 15:22:37 -0500 William S. Morton wrote: > > ... (unzip to Fractint folder in C directory) and > now it auto-runs perfectly when I double-click it > while in Windows98! One question, though. Will I > get deep-zooming ONLY if I restart in MSDOS mode, > or can I still do that while in Windows98? > You can still get deep zooms while in Windows 98. You may wish to read the following "tips" for running FractInt under a Windows environment: http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fracwin95.html P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Abi Nathan" Subject: Re: (fractint) first post Date: 06 Sep 1999 15:24:59 +1000 You could try this, If you find the file fractint.exe, with Explorer, right click on it you will have the chance to set the properties for this executable file i.e. fractint.exe. By juggling the settings found there, you create a .pif file (program information file) which then runs the program when you execute it. I've had no problem since - have fun! abi@hyperstream.com.au ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 5:31 AM > To whom any of this may concern; > I'm a beginner in fractals, have a 350mh presario w/ Windows98, > dabbled w/ Winfract, and am currently trying to figure out how > to get frain196(Fractint for DOS) to run. > I have minimal DOS experience, but have been successful running > DOS generators that auto-start. Frain196 and a few other generators > like it remain 'un-openable' for me. > If you can tell me in sub-layman/'duh,duh' hand-held English(even > ebonics) > how to begin running Fractint, I will be most grateful! > Thanks! > Sarge > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RENRAD1@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Ragweed par Date: 07 Sep 1999 09:32:09 EDT In a message dated 99-09-07 08:09:38 EDT, *Bill Decker* wrote: << Bill at NY is another Bill >> Whups...I'm sorry for my confusion. I'd spent a couple of hours tucking away pars collected from the listmail so by the time I realized I had lost your par all I recalled for sure was that it was an IFS by "Bill". I'll blame it on an angry wisdom tooth. Thank you very much(!) for sending me the par, the IFS will be a new Fractint experience for me; I haven't played with that capability yet. ~~ren Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thore Berntsen Subject: (fractint) Some questions? Date: 07 Sep 1999 09:49:44 +0200 I'm now working on a new version of my Fractint Screen Saver, that some of You may have seen. And I have a few questions that I hope some of You can answer. 1. When running Fractint in disk-video mode. What is the fastest setting for the PASSES= parameter. My guess is that it is the 1 or 2 passes setting. Are there any circumstanses where I can't use these settings? 2. Is there any way to get rid of the warning message that one gets when trying to generate IFS fractals in disk video mode? I would like to allow these in my screen saver. Thore Berntsen Norway Berntsen@vbdas.no Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: (fractint) Contest Update Date: 07 Sep 1999 19:52:06 -0500 Greetings folks, For those of you wondering where the contest entries are... I thought I'd fill you in a little bit. I've gone through all the contest entry submission mail over the past two months and verified the files for each entry. I currently have 401 images and animations, amounting to over 76M of material, in compressed form. This is a few more than Kerry has in his database, because there were some stragglers that he doesn't have yet. There are still a few minor changes we need to make before we can pour all the entries into the web site. There is a reason we didn't just put everything up right away and then make corrections later, and that reason is the CD. With this year's contest being so large (downloadable packs will probably total 80M, twice the size of last year's) I expect people to be very interested in ordering that CD, and once it's burned, it becomes very difficult to make changes. :-) So we want to get it right the first time, and if that means taking a few extra days to get everything lined up... then I think it's for the best. Since I don't actually *have* the database yet, I don't have listings of how many entries are in each category. I'll let you know once I have that information. I do expect to have the entries online before the end of the week; right now I'm projecting Thursday evening, possibly *late* Thursday evening, but it may be Friday. CD-ROM information will be posted at that time. Downloadable packs will likely take an extra day. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William S. Morton" Subject: (fractint) thanks Date: 07 Sep 1999 20:22:30 -0700 I've been getting more support than expected! Thanks to everyone for your time & wisdom. Yes, I've got Fractint up & running on my pc. Still fine-tuning here & there. (Now, if only I had a transform command that would instantly make any given fractal to become a Lee Skinner true color ghost fractal!) Sarge Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dusan Djordjevic Subject: (fractint) Fractint 4NT Date: 07 Sep 1999 13:52:40 +0200 What is happening with fractint for NT and Linux ? Are they going to be coded and when ? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James R. McKenzie" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 4NT Date: 08 Sep 1999 02:25:14 -0400 XFRACT is the unix/linux version of FRACTINT it's kinda long on the tooth but it's ot there somewhere check the spanky site, or do a search somewhere like WWW.GOOGLE.COM Can't help with the NT version info though. Sorry T H A N K Y O U James R. McKenzie jimmckenzie@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 7:52 AM > What is happening with fractint for NT and Linux ? Are they going to be > coded and when ? > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 4NT Date: 08 Sep 1999 01:48:17 -0500 Dusan Djordjevic wrote: > > What is happening with fractint for NT and Linux? > Are they going to be coded and when? > Based upon a recent email from one of the Developers, there is a "proposed Xfractint" that is "is still pretty rough". But they "are inches from releasing a new version of Fractint. The only reason it isn't released now is that" two individuals involved "have requested time to make some evolver and sound demos." There will be an announcement in this Discussion List, so look for it in the near future. P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fernando Henrique Bresslau" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 4NT Date: 08 Sep 1999 08:53:25 -0300 ----- Original Message ----- > What is happening with fractint for NT and Linux ? Are they going to be > coded and when ? I downloaded frain196.zip at college and unzipped in a NT machine. It worked fine, except for teh video modes. In that machine I had only permissiona to save files in the temp directory. Fernando _____ _ ___ |) |. | |(_`|) bresslau@ozdobe.org / ' ' ) / / ) | ()|| ~ |_|,_)| __________ ,-/-, /--/ /--< \ \ \ \ \ \ (_/ernando / (_enrique /____)resslau \¨-._ ==**********============================================================`> / / / / / / fernando_bresslau@yahoo.com /_.*¨´ ¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨ http://www.ozdobe.org http://www.jugend.com.br http://polijr.mcca.ep.usp.br _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott D. Boyd" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 4NT Date: 08 Sep 1999 10:09:55 -0500 On Tue, 07 Sep 1999, you wrote: > What is happening with fractint for NT and Linux ? Are they going to be > coded and when ? > The source for xfractint is available from the main fractint site at: =20 http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html. (The link to it is on= that page.) I had some problems compiling it for Linux, so I've made availabl= e a binary package of xfractint that runs on Redhat Linux 5.2 with kernel=20 2.0.37. You're welcome to try it on your Linux box and let me know if it = works for you. It's available at: http://www.fastlane.net/~sdboyd/xfractint.htm= l, along with some hints and tips on using it. Scott -- Scott D. Boyd -- sdboyd@fastlane.net http://www.fastlane.net/~sdboyd/ Sorry - I'm fresh out of snappy sayings today... Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 4NT Date: 08 Sep 1999 17:39:15 -0600 Scott wrote: >You're welcome to try it on your Linux box and let me know if it > works 0000,0000,0000> for you. It's available at: http://www.fastlane.net/~sdboyd/xfractint.html, > along with some hints and tips on using it. The proposed Xfractint release corresponding to Fractint 20.0 (not quite released yet so don't ask - but we are talking hours or days, not weeks) is at: 0000,8000,0000Times New Romanftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/tw04.zip ArialPlease don't upload this anwhere as I already know of some small changes I want to make, so there will be a slightly different release package in a few hours. As Paul quoted me, I called this "rough", although it is cleaner than past Xfractint packages. I am not too pleased with the Makefile, which I changed just enough to work with Red Hat 5.2. If anyone has suggested improvements let me know. For example, what are reasonable SRCDIR and BINDIIR locations? Also, we are putting all of Wizzle's maps in this release. For Xfractint, I just dumped them all into the release package. I should probably do something more elegant. For the DOS package, right now Scott, your hints on your Website look useful. Would you care to put them in a text file to be placed in the distribution? Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bruce Nepple" Subject: (fractint) True Color in Fractint Date: 09 Sep 1999 14:24:44 -0700 I have not been able to find a way to modify the colors when I select 1024X768x64M colors. I get a nice blue mandlebrot that I cannot modify. Am I missing something obvious? bruce Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) True Color in Fractint Date: 09 Sep 1999 19:00:39 -0400 At 02:24 PM 9/9/1999 -0700, you wrote: > >I have not been able to find a way to modify the colors when I select >1024X768x64M colors. I get a nice blue mandlebrot that I cannot modify. >Am I missing something obvious? > >bruce I think Fractint, at 1024 x 768 only supports up to 256 colors (.gif). Try resetting to that and see if that works. davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil McRevis Subject: Re: (fractint) True Color in Fractint Date: 09 Sep 1999 18:45:22 -0600 In article <199909092126.OAA02756@InterJet.imagenation.com>, "Bruce Nepple" writes: > I have not been able to find a way to modify the colors when I select > 1024X768x64M colors. I get a nice blue mandlebrot that I cannot modify. > Am I missing something obvious? Umm... fractint has extremely limited support for anything other than 8bit pallette-based image output. All of fractint's video output is built around <= 8bit deep displays. This assumption permeates all of the fractint code. 16/24/32 bit deep displays (64K/16.7M colors) just weren't around when fractint's video code was written. The developers of fractint are working on changing this situation, but its slow going because of the amount of code that needs to be changed. Also, in 16/24/32 bit video mode there is no longer any colormap to modify, so there is no way to change the colors the way fractint knows how to change them (modifying the colormap). The only "truecolor support" in support in fractint is the ability to write out the iteration value to a targa file called iterates.tga. You enable this with the truecolor=yes option. -- Legalize Adulthood! ``Ain't it funny that they all fire the pistol, at the wrong end of the race?''--PDBT legalize@xmission.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 09 Sep 1999 22:36:14 -0600 Fractint version 20 is available now at my FTP site. As soon as Noel gets it to spanky.triumf.ca, that will be the preferred download site. Meanwhile, the URL's at my site are: User package: ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/frain200.zip Developer source: ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/frasr200.zip I'd appreciate confirmation from a few of the early downloaders that the integrity of the package looks OK. The best way to get into the new features is to run the evolver and sound demos. These are accessible from demp.bat run in a clean directory with all the distribution files. The Xfractint release needs a day or two to finish, however the file tw04.zip at my ftp site is nearly complete. It just needs the help?.src files updated from the DOS package andf some Makefile cleanup. Please don't upload tw04.zip anywhere since it is not quite final. The final version will be along very soon. It's OK to upload frain200.zip and frasr200.zip to other sites, but prudence might dictating waiting 24 hours or so to see if I screwed up in any big way putting the package together :-) Tim Wegner Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) True Color in Fractint Date: 09 Sep 1999 22:42:51 -0600 Rich said: > Umm... fractint has extremely limited support for anything other than > 8bit pallette-based image output. All of fractint's video output is > built around <= 8bit deep displays. True. However the truecolor drivers are implemented, and some reasonable truecolor support would not be hard to implement, even within the frustrating confines of the DOS existing medium memory model architecture. It's just that nobody has jumped in to do it. We'd probably have to save the files as Targas for know and convert to PNG offline. However I think we have a consensus that moving Fractint to a flat memory model is the highest priority. That's were I will focus my efforts, although I have a steep learning curve no matter which way we go. Once we are in a decent platform, we can do a massive cleanup. Of course Rich knows all about this :-) Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: comdotatdotcom@csi.com Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 10 Sep 1999 12:52 0000 Hi Tim, It looks OK so far and I have the source and executables available from my site in the UK: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/olig/olig.htm or at the wishlist site: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/fracwish.htm Anyone wishing to report bugs in this version should visit: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/buglist.htm Though we would really appreciate it if you spent a bit of time finding out as much as you can about any misbehaviour you find before reporting, thanks! Anyone wanting help on using the evolver or sound stuff feel free to drop me a line :-) Cheers, Robin. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fliguer, Miguel" Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:37:37 -0300 >>>It looks OK so far and I have the source and executables available >>>from my site in the UK The link for the source code http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/FRASR200.ZIP is not working (I also tried lowercase for the filename) Regards, Miguel Fliguer Buenos Aires, Argentina Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fernando Henrique Bresslau" Subject: Re: (fractint) True Color in Fractint Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:43:22 -0300 ----- Original Message ----- > The only "truecolor > support" in support in fractint is the ability to write out the > iteration value to a targa file called iterates.tga. You enable this > with the truecolor=yes option. Hi, I used this option and found the iterates.tga in my \fractint\temp directory. Now what can I do with it, since I don´t even now what *.tga means... Thanks, Bresslau _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fliguer, Miguel" Subject: (fractint) Version 20.0 - Oh no !!! Date: 10 Sep 1999 11:01:23 -0300 Oh no ! I just tried V20 (on a Vectra/Windows NT 4.0/Integrated SiS video) and the first thing I noticed was that I'm not able to get SF5 (640x480x256) anymore !!! It says "This video mode is not available with your adapter", but it worked on v19.6 ! A little conspiracy theory is in order. Since this happens on the PC at my work, I'll be forced to do medium and high-res Fractint only at home. Maybe my boss asked for this on the wish list ... BTW, the new features look awesome in the help file, I can't wait to get home to try them... Miguel Fliguer Buenos Aires, Argentina Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kanak" Subject: R: (fractint) Version 20.0 - Oh no !!! Date: 10 Sep 1999 16:30:00 +0200 do you want me to send you the FRACTINT 19.6 zip ? tell me your address kanak Roma, Italy kanak@libero.it http://www.crosswinds.net/~kanak Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil McRevis Subject: Re: (fractint) True Color in Fractint Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:27:05 -0600 In article <000f01befb92$825bbdc0$a085f6c8@winnetou>, "Fernando Henrique Bresslau" writes: > Hi, I used this option and found the iterates.tga in my \fractint\temp > directory. Now what can I do with it, since I don't even now what *.tga > means... If you don't have any programming knowledge, then it won't do you any good. See the help file where it states that truecolor=yes writes the last iterate out to an iterates.tga file and then it directs you to consult a C code source file in the distribution that will show you how to write a program to read the iterates.tga file and then do something with it. In other words: this truecolor=yes feature is for expert programmer types, not the typical user. -- Legalize Adulthood! ``Ain't it funny that they all fire the pistol, at the wrong end of the race?''--PDBT legalize@xmission.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: comdotatdotcom@csi.com Subject: (fractint) v20.0 source Date: 10 Sep 1999 17:05 0000 Thanks for pointing out the broken link Miguel, I had the .zip part of the file name in lower case for some reason... all fixed now. Cheers, Robin. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noel Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Tim Wegner wrote: >Fractint version 20 is available now at my FTP site. As soon as >Noel gets it to spanky.triumf.ca, that will be the preferred download >site. Meanwhile, the URL's at my site are: The fractint page at Spanky: http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html Now points to the new version 20.0 of Fractint. None of the online docs are updated to the new version yet. That will take a few days, but the sourcecode and executable distributions can now be downloaded from the fractint website. Cheers, Noel Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoWeber Subject: (fractint) Version 20.0 - Oh no !!! Date: 10 Sep 1999 16:01:37 -0400 Hi All, you can download fractint v20.0 from my site http://www.hajoweber.de/download/program/fraint.exe or using http://www.joweber.de and visiting the download page. cheers --Jo Weber-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 10 Sep 1999 22:54:15 -0500 Tim, - It's OK to upload frain200.zip and frasr200.zip to other sites, but - prudence might dictating waiting 24 hours or so to see if I screwed - up in any big way putting the package together :-) (smile) Well if you release an update, I'll grab it. As it is, the 20.0 package is also available here: ftp://ftp.fractalus.com/pub/tools-pc/fractint-20.0.zip Just in case anyone has any trouble connecting to the zillions of OTHER sites that have it. :) Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Traynor" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 11 Sep 1999 00:16:13 -0400 Damien, > Just in case anyone has any trouble connecting to the zillions of OTHER > sites that have it. :) What, you mean there are folk that did not have it downloaded within minutes of Tim's announcement? I've only had a minute's look, but that evolver sure is cool. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William S. Morton" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 10 Sep 1999 23:15:17 -0700 For recent newcomers to Fractint (aka ME), the Evolver feature is a real timesaver, (as well as a bitchin' 72+ image screensaver)! Tim Wegner wrote: > Fractint version 20 is available now at my FTP site. As soon as > Noel gets it to spanky.triumf.ca, that will be the preferred download > site. Meanwhile, the URL's at my site are: > > User package: > ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/frain200.zip > > Developer source: > ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/frasr200.zip > > I'd appreciate confirmation from a few of the early downloaders that > the integrity of the package looks OK. > > The best way to get into the new features is to run the evolver and > sound demos. These are accessible from demp.bat run in a clean > directory with all the distribution files. > > The Xfractint release needs a day or two to finish, however the file > tw04.zip at my ftp site is nearly complete. It just needs the > help?.src files updated from the DOS package andf some Makefile > cleanup. Please don't upload tw04.zip anywhere since it is not > quite final. The final version will be along very soon. > > It's OK to upload frain200.zip and frasr200.zip to other sites, but > prudence might dictating waiting 24 hours or so to see if I screwed > up in any big way putting the package together :-) > > Tim Wegner > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Version 20.0 - Oh no !!! Date: 11 Sep 1999 09:01:26 -0600 Miguel wrote: > I just tried V20 (on a Vectra/Windows NT 4.0/Integrated SiS video) > and the first thing I noticed was that I'm not able to get SF5 > (640x480x256) anymore !!! It says "This video mode is not available > with your adapter", but it worked on v19.6 ! I am surprised that anything about 20.0 would have different video performance from 19.6, but anything is possible, especially under NT. I doubt this will help you, but might be of general interest. Version 20.0 comes with a program called makefcfg.exe that reads your VESA Video BIOS and writes a fractint.cfg file. I suggest you try this and tell us what modes are produced. This is a quick way to see what video modes fractint supports - better try this in the store before buying a computer :-) It is also a handy way to get set up for semi-standard VESA modes such as 1600x1200. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 11 Sep 1999 09:16:17 -0600 Damien wrote: > (smile) Well if you release an update, I'll grab it. As it is, the 20.0 > package is also available here: > > ftp://ftp.fractalus.com/pub/tools-pc/fractint-20.0.zip So far no show stoppers. There are a few places in the docs that say the pixel limit is 2048, and there are a few glitches in the demo.bat file, so I think we're safe from an immediate release of a bug fix 20.1 (knock on wood) :-) Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 11 Sep 1999 09:41:17 -0500 Are you ready for "Burn All GIFs Day": http://burnallgifs.org/ The event, which so far isn't scheduled for an actual date, was started in anger over the discovery that Unisys is making a new effort to extract royalties out of US patent 4,558,302, commonly known as the LZW compression method. Created by Terry Welch of Sperry Corporation in 1983, LZW eventually became Unisys property when Sperry merged with Burroughs Corporation to form Unisys in 1986. LZW is at the heart of the GIF file format. If you make or store GIF files, you're using patented LZW formulas -- and Unisys wants money from you. Of course, this means that GIFs are off-limits to open source users, who aren't used to paying for licenses. The League for Programming Freedom (LPF), which is closely related to the GNU project (LPF was co-founded by GNU leader Richard Stallman), is trying to fight this kind of technology hoarding. And, as a result, you'll see no GIFs on the GNU or LPF Web sites. As far as the GIF-using community knew, no terms existed on using the GIF format until 1995, when CompuServe shocked its community by revealing its deal with Unisys and spelling out terms by which developers would pay licensing fees. But that agreement covered only CompuServe users. The rest of the online community was -- and is -- still open to attack. While maintaining that users of GIF viewers were safe, Unisys began pursuing its patent claims against companies whose graphics software was capable of writing GIF-format files. To let everyone know it was serious, Unisys in 1998 went after Corel and was able to get retroactive fees in an out-of-court settlement. --- Fork it over --- Unisys now says that it wants a $5,000 license from anyone running a Web site that contains GIF files made by unlicensed creation software. For more information on the above story, go to the following URL: http://www.zdnet.com/enterprise/stories/linux/news/0,6423,2330029,00.html P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 11 Sep 1999 12:44:20 -0700 At 09:16 AM 9/11/99 -0600, Tim wrote: >So far no show stoppers. There are a few places in the docs that >say the pixel limit is 2048, and there are a few glitches in the >demo.bat file, so I think we're safe from an immediate release of >a bug fix 20.1 (knock on wood) :-) I had a minor problem. When in evolver mode, I invoked the Ctrl-E command to modify things, and Fractint failed to switch video mode back to text 320x200. While accessing both the first and F6 screens, all text was written over the prior image. I had to quit and restart to clear the bug. I was not able to reproduce the problem. I was running an AMD 80 Mhz 486DX2, with MS.DOS v6.22 and a Trident 8900-based ISA video card, in SF5 mode. Here's my sstools.ini: textsafe=no sound=off fastrestore=yes askvideo=no video=SF5 colors=@temp1a.map maxiter=300 recordcolors=yes Also, an observation/request/complaint (choose one): it would seem to be more natural to use the p(n) data for the current image in x/y mode, rather than require the user to manually enter the lower left corner data. Other than that, I am enjoying the heck out of my new toy! Thanks, Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) V.20 early par Date: 11 Sep 1999 16:00:47 -0400 An early par out v.20: Thought I would take a few minutes break time and see if I could get anything out of Fractint v.20. The color map started out as Droz12 or 13 which I proceeded to modify. And here is the result: ds2 { ; (c) David Shanholtzer Sep 11, 1999 t= 0:02:16.77 ; P200 MMX 1024x768 reset=2000 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=sin/sqr passes=b center-mag=-0.00000000000000067/+0.00000000000000044/1.36612 params=0/0/1.75 float=y maxiter=500 bailout=4 inside=zmag decomp=256 colors=000vrR<11>dJ9cG8aD6<2>Y42W00X31<11>pfLqiNslP<3>zzW<11>fLBdI9bE8<3\ >W00<7>l_IncKqhM<3>zzW<5>kWHhREfLB<3>W00W00<9>nbKpfMrjO<3>zzW<9>gOCeKAcG\ 8<2>Y42W00W00<13>pgMrjOsmP<3>zzW<7>iREgNCdIA<3>W00<16>qiNslPtoQ<3>zzW<4>\ lZIjTFgNC<3>W00<11>oeLqhNslO<2>xvUzzWywV<9>fNCeJAcF8<3>W00<9>nbKpfMrjO<3\ >zzW<3>kWGgOCcG8_84W00<11>tnP } davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 11 Sep 1999 17:05:21 -0400 At 09:41 AM 9/11/1999 -0500, Paul Lee wrote: >Are you ready for "Burn All GIFs Day": (snipped) >--- Fork it over --- >Unisys now says that it wants a $5,000 license from anyone running a Web >site that contains GIF files made by unlicensed creation software. I, for one, thank you for posting this message to this list. In the near (hopefully, if I can find time between rennovating one house, getting another ready to sell, and so on) I was giving serious consideration to putting up a web site as I have threatened to do for some time. And as part of the site, I would of course have probably put up a fractal "gallery" (stop rolling on the floor laughing!) which would probably have had .gif images, though I may have converted to .jpg for space considerations. There is no question now. Should I obtain the time, all images will be converted into .jpg format - until royalties become required for them also. davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: (fractint) Contest 99 Category Breakdown (and other stats) Date: 11 Sep 1999 16:25:47 -0500 Greetings folks, In case you're wondering why the contest entries aren't posted yet, it's because I've been busy putting out other fires. I've verified all entries in the database as best I can, though, so I thought I'd post this information. Note: the total for software adds up to more than the number of entries. This is because a very large number of entries used more than one software package. Categories ---------- Emotion: 40 Organic: 101 Mechanical: 29 Abstract: 124 Quote Interpretation: 34 Limited Color: 24 3D: 29 Animations: 24 Total: 405 <-- !! Software -------- Ultra Fractal: 154 Fractint: 68 TieraZon & TieraZon 2: 42 Photoshop: 34 Paint Shop Pro: 24 KPT 5: 14 SterlingWare: 13 Winfract: 13 Fractal Domains: 12 Fractal Explorer: 10 GrafZViZion: 9 BASIC programs: 8 Flarium24: 8 Photo Paint: 8 Picture Publisher: 7 Unspecified: 6 XenoLab: 6 Inkblot Kaos: 5 Painter: 4 Poser: 4 POV-Ray: 4 Quat: 4 Zplot: 4 Bryce: 3 Dave's Targa Animator: 3 Elmfract: 3 EZ33: 3 FDesign: 3 Fractal Vision: 3 GIF Construction Set: 3 Graphics Workshop: 3 HOP: 3 Image Composer: 3 MMFrac: 3 Organic Art: 3 Original programs: 3 Video Wave: 3 Fractales: 2 Mathart: 2 Movie 11: 2 XaoS: 2 Yin Yang Fire: 2 Dofo-Zon Elite: 1 GIF Animator: 1 Iterations: 1 Piclab: 1 Root-IFS: 1 Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 11 Sep 1999 16:25:25 -0600 Mark wrote: > I had a minor problem. When in evolver mode, I invoked the > Ctrl-E command to modify things, and Fractint failed to switch > video mode back to text 320x200. While accessing both the > first and F6 screens, all text was written over the prior image. > I had to quit and restart to clear the bug. I was not able to > reproduce the problem. If you ever do reproduce the problem, let us know the exact steps. If anyone else sees something similar, see if you can consistently get the problem with a simplke series of steps, and if so, let us know. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cindy mitchell Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest 99 Category Breakdown (and other stats) Date: 11 Sep 1999 14:45:25 -0700 Hi Damien, I wish I had known Organic Art counted. No need to respond as you have plenty to do with the contest. Cindy >Software >-------- >Organic Art: 3 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 11 Sep 1999 16:50:55 -0500 David, - There is no question now. Should I obtain the time, all images will be - converted into .jpg format - until royalties become required for them - also. JPEG was developed as an international standard, and the official spec does refer to a number of patents. The baseline compression that almost everything uses (everything that I know of) relies on the freely-usable Huffman compression; the slightly more efficient arithmetic coding is covered by patents belonging to IBM, AT&T, and Mitsubishi, so nobody uses it, little software implements it, and it gets largely ignored. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Jemison Subject: (fractint) V.20 early par Date: 11 Sep 1999 18:16:34 -0400 David, Nice image...now try this...with the image displayed, notice the "ring" whose inside edge forms a complete oval, and whose outside edge extend slightly outside the image on all four sides. Hit <+> to start color cycling and speed it up until a color band in that ring I described makes= about one complete revolution (should be clockwise) per four seconds or s= o. Now, stand back from your monitor about five feet or so, and stare at the= very center of the image for as long as you can . Then shift your gaze directly down to your keyboard. Whoooaaahhh!! Bill Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: (fractint) Xfractint problems Date: 11 Sep 1999 17:43:05 -0600 Times New RomanCan anyone make sense of these error messages? The latest Xfractint compiles perfectly for me under virtually the same environment as that of this user (Red Hat Linux 5.2) Tim Well, compiling of the newest xfractint (tw04.zip) was going along smoothly until it hit 'loadfile.c'. Then I got the following error messages: gcc -I. -DXFRACT -DNOBSTRING -g -DBIG_ANSI_C -DLINUX -c loadfile.c -o loadfile.o loadfile.c: In function `fgetwindow': loadfile.c:1328: `EACCES' undeclared (first use this function) loadfile.c:1328: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once loadfile.c:1328: for each function it appears in.) make: *** [loadfile.o] Error 1 I'm not a C/C++ programmer, but I thought I'd look thru the file anyway and see if I could figure out how to fix the problem. Anyway, I added the line: "EACCES = 0;" near the top of the file, and typed "make xfractint" again. This time when gcc encountered that line, I got the following message: loadfile.c:40: warning: data definition has no type or storage class (I later learned while looking thru fractint.c that I should have put "int" in front of that declaration line.) The compiler then continued on until I got: gcc -I. -DXFRACT -DNOBSTRING -g -DBIG_ANSI_C -DLINUX -c prompts1.c -o prompts1.o In file included from /usr/include/local_lim.h:21, from /usr/include/posix1_lim.h:92, from /usr/include/dirent.h:153, from /usr/include/sys/dir.h:24, from prompts1.c:12: /usr/include/linux/limits.h:52: No include path in which to find limits.h make: *** [prompts1.o] Error 1 I have "limits.h" in: /usr/include/ , /usr/include/linux/ and /usr/include/sys/ and I *still* get the same error message. Line 52 in limits.h reads: " #include_next <" I have changed it to: < , < , < , and *still* get the same error message! I'm not sure where I should define the include path... In Makefile perhaps? If so - how? (In other words - what's the correct syntax to use? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Jemison Subject: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 11 Sep 1999 19:36:58 -0400 I see you have textsafe=3Dno. Have you tried any of the other textsafe options? textsafe=3Dsave seems to work for lots of people. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: comdotatdotcom@csi.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 12 Sep 1999 1:04 0000 Hi Mark, > >I had a minor problem. When in evolver mode, I invoked the >Ctrl-E command to modify things, and Fractint failed to switch >video mode back to text 320x200. Hmmm, strange one... Like Tim says, see if it happens again and if you can pin down the circumstances then pop a report onto the buglist page for us to chew over. >Also, an observation/request/complaint (choose one): >it would seem to be more natural to use the p(n) data for the >current image in x/y mode, Good idea! I'll see what I can do, there are a few glitches around that area that seem to have slipped through as I was concenrating on the random evolving side of things. Thanks for the feedback, it's interface details like this that I'm looking for to improve the way people interact with the evolver/explorer. >Other than that, I am enjoying the heck out of my new toy! > Glad to hear it :-D Cheers, Robin. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 11 Sep 1999 21:12:52 -0400 Damien, >JPEG was developed (snipped) There is png; I just posted that "early fractint par" as a png on abpf... davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) V.20 early par Date: 11 Sep 1999 21:15:49 -0400 At 06:16 PM 9/11/1999 -0400, you wrote: Hi Bill, (snipped - and thank you) >Now, stand back from your monitor about five feet or so, and stare at the >very center of the image for as long as you can . > >Then shift your gaze directly down to your keyboard. > >Whoooaaahhh!! Er, ummmmmm, don't rightly know if I want to do that... :) davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 11 Sep 1999 21:07:14 -0600 Robin wrote: > Hmmm, strange one... Like Tim says, see if it happens again and if > you can pin down the circumstances then pop a report onto the buglist > page for us to chew over. The buglist, is, of course: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/buglist.htm Looking at it I just realized that Fractint 20.0 can out on the infamous 9/9/99 date :-) I have made minor changes to the file that contains Xfractint. It now matches version 20.0. The file is at: ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/xfract310.zip Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott D. Boyd" Subject: (fractint) Re: Xfractint Date: 11 Sep 1999 23:52:57 -0500 On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, Tim wrote: >=20 > I have made minor changes to the file that contains Xfractint. It now=20 > matches version 20.0. >=20 > The file is at: >=20 > ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/xfract310.zip >=20 That should be: ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/xfrac310.zip (No "t" in the filename.) I'm downloading it now and I'll see how it compiles... Scott -- Scott D. Boyd -- sdboyd@fastlane.net http://www.fastlane.net/~sdboyd/ Sorry - I'm fresh out of snappy sayings today... Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jerome schatten Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 11 Sep 1999 22:05:24 -0700 Tim... couldn't find the file at that location (the xfractint one, that is). Is the filename correct at the bottem of your message? Best regards, jerome Tim Wegner wrote: > > Robin wrote: > > > Hmmm, strange one... Like Tim says, see if it happens again and if > > you can pin down the circumstances then pop a report onto the buglist > > page for us to chew over. > > The buglist, is, of course: > > http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/buglist.htm > > Looking at it I just realized that Fractint 20.0 can out on the > infamous 9/9/99 date :-) > > I have made minor changes to the file that contains Xfractint. It now > matches version 20.0. > > The file is at: > > ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/xfract310.zip > > Tim > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 12 Sep 1999 11:14:16 -0500 davides wrote: > > .... I was giving serious consideration to putting up a > web site as I have threatened to do for some time. And as > part of the site, I would of course have probably put up a > fractal "gallery" (stop rolling on the floor laughing!) > I for one look forward to your website, and especially the Gallery !! Hope this endeavor goes well for you, and soon (for all of your Fans out here). P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 12 Sep 1999 11:28:49 -0700 At 12:44 PM 9/11/99 -0700, I wrote: >... >it would seem to be more natural to use the p(n) data for the >current image in x/y mode, rather than require the user to >manually enter the lower left corner data. Robin, After further analysis, this would only be practical if everyone used it the same way I do, one paramater pair (i.e. p1(real) = x, p1(imag) = y) at a time. I have some additional thoughts which I will relay privately; I just wanted to get this part out to the list to publically admit I was being a bit myopic 8-) Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 12 Sep 1999 13:37:43 -0600 0000,8000,0000Jerome asked: >... couldn't find the file at that location (the xfractint one ... As Scott pointed out, I mispelled the filename, which I shortened to fit the DOS 8-3 naming convention. The correct link is: ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/xfrac310.zip Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ken Childress Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 12 Sep 1999 13:32:59 -0700 Thanks for the info Paul. >--- Fork it over --- >Unisys now says that it wants a $5,000 license from anyone running a Web >site that contains GIF files made by unlicensed creation software. Sounds like it is time to abandon GIF wherever possible. Ken... Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ian.ent@argonet.co.uk (Dr I D Entwistle) Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 12 Sep 1999 22:35:34 +0100 On Sun 12 Sep 1999 (13:32:59), icent@best.com wrote: > > Thanks for the info Paul. > > >--- Fork it over --- > >Unisys now says that it wants a $5,000 license from anyone running a > Web > >site that contains GIF files made by unlicensed creation software. > > Sounds like it is time to abandon GIF wherever possible. If you use an application to generate them dated pre 1994 then you are free of any charges .I was assured some time ago that the Unysis LZW patent does not cover GIF images made outside the USA. My GIF images are generated with software written and sold in the UK. Ian -- See fractal Galleries at http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/ian.ent Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL RAY Subject: (fractint) JavaQuat 1.6 Quaternion Fractal Maker Date: 12 Sep 1999 18:09:00 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B2842B5C1C139886264AA6DC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey gang, here's an interesting app - a Java Applet for generating Fractals. http://www.iglobal.net/lystad/JavaQuat/index.html --------------B2842B5C1C139886264AA6DC Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; name="index.html" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="index.html" Content-Base: "http://www.iglobal.net/lystad/JavaQuat /index.html" Content-Location: "http://www.iglobal.net/lystad/JavaQuat /index.html" JavaQuat 1.6 Quaternion Fractal Maker

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Instructions here. Take a look while the applet downloads.

Java implementations are getting better all the time, but if you have trouble the first thing I'd suggest is that you update your browser to Netscape 4.0 or later. You can download it free for an indefinitely long trial period for private use, which effectively means you can have it free, period. Click here for more information on browsers and JavaQuat.

There would be an applet here if your browser supported Java. Try downloading Netscape Navigator 4.0 ,Internet Explorer, or HotJava all of which support Java applets.

INSTRUCTIONS

Outline of Topics Below

  1. Quick Start
  2. All the Controls in Detail
    1. Drawing Area Buttons
    2. Drawing Areas and the Mouse
    3. Saving your picture
    4. Argument Meanings
      1. Center R, i, j, and k
      2. Qo times R, i, j, and k
      3. Qo plus R, i, j, and k
      4. View Size
      5. Picture Size
      6. Power
      7. Sequence Depth
      8. Vertical Axis
      9. Horiz Axis
      10. Panels
    5. Argument Buttons
      1. 1 Big Canvas
      2. Color Cycles(No longer a button but with them.)
      3. Set V-axis
      4. Swap H & V Axes
      5. Fidelity
      6. Power and "Roll your own" Loop ID
      7. Number of Colors
      8. File I/O
        1. Writing
          1. Saving Arguments
          2. Logging Arguments
          3. Saving a Picture
        2. Reading Arguments
        3. Creating a Zoom Sequence
        4. Creating Large Images - Panels
      9. Auto Advance
      10. Edit Color Map
        1. Color Map Display
        2. The Color Map Editor Buttons
      11. Scan on ....
  3. Legal
  4. Bugs and Problems

Quick Start

What you should see when JavaQuat start is a blue area on the left and a green or gray area on the right. The blue area is where you can control the picture you are going to draw. I call it the blue argument entry area. The numbers and button settings for a given fractal will be refered to as the fractal's arguments. On the right are four (4) drawing areas (2 by 2). Each drawing area has three (3) buttons at the bottom.

Each drawing area comes with a set of arguments pre-loaded. If you click on the "Show Args." button of a drawing area the values for the pre-loaded picture, or the last picture that was drawn on it, will be displayed in the blue argument area. If you then click on a draw button the picture described in the blue area will be drawn. To see all the pre-loaded fractals, go to each drawing area, click on the "Show Args." button and then on the "Draw" button.

If you see something in one of the pictures that you would like to enlarge, drag the mouse across the area you want enlarged. A square box will be drawn where you dragged the mouse to show the section of the current picture that will be enlarged if you proceed to click on any draw buton. The values in the blue arguments area will change to indicate the new center and new "View Size".

If you want to change the size of the picture change the value in the "Picture Size" box, just above right center in the blue argument entry area. Values between 9 and 301 should be possible, though the upper limit may depend on your browser. If you want an even bigger picture, click on the button that says "1 Big Canvas". "Picture Size" can then be set as high as 609 on some browsers.

NOTE: If you are using Netscape on a Mac you will have various things go blank frequently. If you just slightly adjust the size of the Netscape window the picture and arguments will be restored, at least for a while. If you are using any browser on any platform you will experience some minor problems. I am not aware of any bug that appears in more than one browser - platform combination or applet viewer - platform combination. That indicates to me that the problem is not with my Java code. But, of course, no code of even moderate size is ever bug free, so if you think I've goofed up (1) try another browser and see if the problem persists and (2) if it does, send me email at lystad@iglobal.net and tell me what's wrong.


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This software is freeware. If you like it let me know, if you have the time. I'd appreciate an email to lystad@iglobal.net.

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--------------B2842B5C1C139886264AA6DC-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 12 Sep 1999 17:12:41 -0600 > Sounds like it is time to abandon GIF wherever possible. I'd like to keep any further discussion of the Unisys topic related to Fractal software. I am a member of the PNG team (albeit a minor one). My position is that I would like to get out from under GIF and use PNG for Fractint. This would have the bonus that Truecolor is handled by PNG, so we wouldn't need another format for truecolor. We would have to finally design the PNG chunk I have reserved for fractal information, and supply conversion software for old GIFs that would translate the fractal information stored in the GIF. The only reason that we haven't done this is that libpng code for handling PNG needs a lot more resources than GIF. This is a non- issue for most software, but a serious problem for the DOS Fractint which uses a memory model that limits the dotal near data to 64K. (It took me half a day to add rough PNG saving to Xfractint.) I have though of ways around this for the DOS version, but decided a long time ago that it would be a waste of time, since all the effort would be moot when Fractint is finally ported out of DOS. I'm just embarressed this has taken so long - the development team has been operating less intensely for quite a while. Meanwhile, there are tools available that allow you to convert your Fractint images to PNG for posting on Web sites. These can be viewed with any up to date version of IE or Netscape. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: comdotatdotcom@csi.com Subject: RE: Re: (fractint) Fractint version 20.0 Date: 13 Sep 1999 0:17 0000 Hi Bud, >After further analysis, this would only be practical if everyone >used it the same way I do, one paramater pair (i.e. p1(real) = x, It's still a good idea for maybe an Fkey in the evolver control menu, it'd take away a lot of hassle for those who want to explore the parameter space around an image they've found by other means. Also in the absence of any four dimensional hyperVGA displays so far it makes a lot of sense to just explore two parameters at a time :-) Cheers, Robin. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: (fractint) Type=test is broken Date: 12 Sep 1999 20:08:41 -0600 This is hardly a show stopper, but type=test is broken in version 20.0. The fix is to comment out the declaration of thelocal variable "col" in test() in miscfrac.c, which in effect makes the routine use the global version. It's a rule of good software engineering to avoid global variables. We have violated this a fair bit ... :-) Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL RAY Subject: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver Date: 12 Sep 1999 23:01:02 -0400 I have downloaded and installed Fractint 20, which is great. However, I have not been able to use Evolver. When I invoke the zoom function the rectangle can only move halfway vertically, horizontally or left or right - the mouse seems frozen. Is there a parameter or command I can put into sstools.ini to make the Evolver function work or is there a command-line fix. So far the Sound function doesn't work either, although I do get a 'beep' after a fractal is finished loading, so the sound card seems to be functioning. I run Fractint20 under DOS on a 200mhz Pentium with 64megs of ram and 2megs of video ram. I have changed video modes and that does not help. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver Date: 12 Sep 1999 20:24:15 -0700 At 11:01 PM 9/12/99 -0400, you wrote: >... I >have not been able to use Evolver. When I invoke the zoom function the >rectangle can only move halfway vertically, horizontally or left or >right - the mouse seems frozen. Bill: To select another image, you have to press Ctrl while pressing the arrow keys. I have been glued to this new feature to the extent that I'm clueless to whatever else is new! Examples coming in the near future... Bud P.S.: any rumors on the FA'99 contest unveiling? ( ;;-) nudge nudge) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 12 Sep 1999 20:40:33 -1000 On 12 Sep 99 at 17:12, Tim Wegner wrote: > Meanwhile, there are tools available that allow you to > convert your Fractint images to PNG for posting on Web > sites. These can be viewed with any up to date version > of IE or Netscape. And here we go again! Welcome to a Windows only world! Of course, when PNG is actually standardized enough to work right, it's a good replacement for GIF. But I've been to too many sites where the PNGs won't display in such up-to-date browser versions as Netscape Communicator 4.61. Personally, I expect that when Unisys tries to enforce their patent on GIF, they'll be blown out of the water by the first contestant who walks in with an attorney and points out that they have been essentially refusing to enforce it for so long now that they have basically said people can use it for free. Hmmmpph. David May only friendly green things find your doorstep! Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: (fractint) Popcorn inconsistency Date: 13 Sep 1999 17:58:44 +1200 I hesitate to call this a bug, maybe more of a miswart. When using the evolver on the Popcorn type, the spawned variants are not clipped to fit their boxes, spilling out instead to overlap each other. On a hunch, I looked at a popcorn fractal through a iewwindow, and saw the same nonclipping there. It's noticeable only because other dynamic-like types (dynamic, mandelcloud, latoocarfian, bifurcation etc.) don't do this. I've just checked an old version 18.2 which I recalled I had knocking around; the same thing happens there. As no-one has apparently noticed it before (or at least considered it worth reporting), it's clearly something that is of _very_ minor importance - only the evolver makes it readily apparent. Morgan "And when are we going to run user formulae as dynamic orbits?" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Jones" Subject: (fractint) Fr20: Problem with DiskVideo? Date: 12 Sep 1999 22:43:17 -1000 Using Fractint 20. Just generated what was supposed to be a 2048x1536x256 color image using DiskVideo. (The Evolver is fun, even at 640x480!) After the image completed, I saved it using the "S" option, and opened the image in CorelPhotoPaint 7 so I could see it. (Fractint 20 still doesn't support my Elsa GLoria Synergy for better than 640x480x256. Even tried Makefcfg on it - gives me 640x400x256 or 640x480x256.) PhotoPaint reports an image size of 1000x750 pixels. I'm running it under W95 on a system with 128MB RAM. Even after I kicked the expanded and extended memory settings up to 16MB, it won't produce an image larger than that. Why can't I get my big image? Another blast of bits from David http://home.hawaii.rr.com/aliasjj/ http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: http://www.surfreporthawaii.com Random Thought for this Nanosecond If it's a flock of birds, is it a batch of programmers? (D.Jones) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest 99 Date: 13 Sep 1999 09:04:14 -0500 Bud, - P.S.: any rumors on the FA'99 contest unveiling? ( ;;-) nudge nudge) Yes, rumor has it that the entry database is fully verified and 1200+ web pages have been built, what remains are the voting forms which I'm not going to be able to work on until this evening. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Jemison Subject: (fractint) Fr20: Problem with DiskVideo? Date: 13 Sep 1999 10:21:19 -0400 David, Sorry, there must be something strange about either your system or your viewer- or possibly you were attempting to view the wrong image? I just ran the basic mandelbrot in diskvideo 2048x1536x256 and viewed it with CPIC as well as photoshop, and it displayed fine and at the correct size. I have done diskvideo sizes to 16,000x12,000x256 in ver. 20 with no problems. Try again? Bill Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Jemison Subject: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver Date: 13 Sep 1999 10:21:18 -0400 Bill, << So far the Sound function doesn't work either, although I do get a <<'beep' after a fractal is finished loading, so the sound card seems to= be < Subject: Re: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver Date: 13 Sep 1999 11:11:17 -0400 Thanks, I ran the demo and the visual portion worked fine - but no sound until the point at which BOTH the pc internal speaker and sound card were turned on. Then I heard those anemic beeps - so you were right, it was the internal speaker. I am running Windows 95 but boot up to DOS for Fractint since Fractint (versions 19.3, 19.6, 20.0) does not work under Windows on my machine. I did run a music CD after the demo and it worked fine, so the sound card is functioning. I have a 200mhz Pentium with 64megs Ram and 2 megs Video ram. I guess the sound function just cannot work on my system. Thanks again for your suggestion. Bill Ray Bill Jemison wrote: > Bill, > > << So far the Sound function doesn't work either, although I do get a > <<'beep' after a fractal is finished loading, so the sound card seems to > be > < > The beep you hear is most likely coming from your PC speaker, and not your > sound card. This is the default behavior. > > Before going any further, have you run the sound demo? Run demo.bat, and > choose the version 20 sound demo, and let me know what happens. Also, are > you running any version of Windows? > > Bill > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Jemison Subject: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver Date: 13 Sep 1999 12:33:08 -0400 Bill, when you ran the CD (which played) were you in W95? It sounds like yo= ur DOS drivers for your sound card might not be loaded. You can try to run Fractint through W95 and use a diskvideo mode - which allows sound as well. Could you try that? after starting Fractint, ask fo= r a diskvideo mode, and <@> and load the frac200.par, which contains several sound pars...some use both the PC speaker and the soundcard, othe= rs only the soundcard. What is your soundcard, and, if you know, what synth chip does it have? Most soundblaster compatibles have the OPL-3 synth chip, which is what th= e sound features in Fractint are written for. With other synths, YMMV. Bill Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: comdotatdotcom@csi.com Subject: RE: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver Date: 13 Sep 1999 19:25 0000 Hi Bill, >when you ran the CD (which played) were you in W95? It sounds >like your >DOS drivers for your sound card might not be loaded. Then again if there are no drivers loaded then fractint *should* give an error message rather than just staying silent. To see for sure just type 'set' from your dos prompt and see if resulting techno-babble includes the line: BLASTER= Axxx Ix and so on where xxx are numbers. If you see this then the most likely problem is one of your sound card's mixer settings, look through the documentation for the name of the program you need to run in order to control the mix of the various sources within your card (i.e. cd, wave, synth, auxilliary etc) it may simply be that the FM output is turned down. If it's not that then tell me what you get on the BLASTER= line above. >You can try to run Fractint through W95 and use a diskvideo mode - That's a very good diagnostic idea! try it as Bill says, if it works then there are other tips for getting fractint running under W95 about. It works fine under win95 for me (I have a matrox video card). Good luck! Robin. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ricardo M. Forno" Subject: RE: (fractint) Bug in the evolver Date: 13 Sep 1999 16:00:33 -0300 Tim: I got the following problem with the evolver. I started with 2 to select a par. Notice that the par used fn*z+z fractal type. Then I entered the evolver by means of Alt-5. Once the thumbnails where displayed, I typed Ctrl-E to change "yes" to "no" in order to see the image, without having moved to some other thumbnail. The image was totally changed, but when typing z, the parameters strangely were the same as the initial ones! Please note that this behavior seems not to occur with the standard Mandelbrot. Anyhow, I am completey fascinated with this feature! Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil McRevis Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 13 Sep 1999 14:06:07 -0600 In article <043bf1743060d99XMAIL@smtp2.hawaii.rr.com>, "David Jones" writes: > Of course, when PNG is actually standardized enough to > work right, it's a good replacement for GIF. PNG has been standardized for a long time now. Any problems you're experiencing have nothing to do with the 'standardization of PNG'. > But I've > been to too many sites where the PNGs won't display in > such up-to-date browser versions as Netscape Communicator > 4.61. Either people are writing home-brew PNG files (which is not to imply that PNG isn't standard, but perhaps that programs out there are generating non-standard PNGs) or the browser software hasn't been written to accomodate standard PNGs. -- Legalize Adulthood! ``Ain't it funny that they all fire the pistol, at the wrong end of the race?''--PDBT legalize@xmission.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Jemison Subject: (fractint) Trouble with Evolver Date: 13 Sep 1999 16:17:19 -0400 Hi Robin, Sorry. I didn't realize that you had built in the error message! That's nice to know. FWIW, one of the reasons that I like to use diskvideo mode for playing music pars is that since diskvideo will run in a window, it gives me acce= ss to the windows desktop for adjustments to the mixer controls, FX, etc. while listening to the par and the effects of the various controls, etc. = on the sound. Real-time sound manipulation has to be done this way afik. Bill Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marie Drozdis" Subject: (fractint) Version 20 Date: 13 Sep 1999 14:19:50 -0700 I finally have a day to unzip my new version and put it through its paces. Thanks, all who worked on it. Reading the messages posted here has increased the anticipation and even renewed the interest (or should I say obsession?) I have with my fractals. I hope there's an increase in pars posted. Now.. to the Evolver Marie Drozdis Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: comdotatdotcom@csi.com Subject: (fractint) RE: Bug in the evolver Date: 13 Sep 1999 23:08 0000 Hi Ricardo, >Once the thumbnails where displayed, I typed Ctrl-E to change "yes" >to "no" in order to see the image, BTW, 'b' works as a shortcut for this whilst in the evolver. >without having moved to some other thumbnail. Hmmmm.. does the same happen if you move to another and then back again? >The image was totally changed, but when typing z, the parameters >strangely were the same as the initial ones! Now that is very bizzare, though you should also check the x screen to see that some radically different inside or outside colouring method hasn't been selected. If you can make this happen consistantly then it would help me sort things out if you could mail me a par for the starting image or if you hit S just after the first set of images is generated and then mail me the file that was saved. Cheers, Robin. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) Version 20 Date: 13 Sep 1999 20:14:08 -0400 Re: Fractint 20 and the evolver, I have only one thing to say: "Whooooweeee!!!!!!!!!!" davides@pipeline.com ds30@umail.umd.edu Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spatzy2325@aol.com Subject: (fractint) Fractint Book? Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:22:01 EDT To whom it may concern, Does anyone plan on putting out a new book with the new version of Fractint? Last time I checked the last Fractint book was out of date. Regards, Ryan Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wayne Kiely" Subject: (fractint) V.20 Date: 14 Sep 1999 11:02:32 +0930 Hi all. Haven't had a chance to download the new version yet but... many thanks to those who have doubtless spent many hours for the rest of us to enjoy. It is much appreciated. Regards, Wayne Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Book? Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:37:08 -0600 Ryan asked: > Does anyone plan on putting out a new book with the new version of > Fractint? Last time I checked the last Fractint book was out of date. The nature of the book market at present makes a Fractint book project infeasible. If Fractint were an up-to-date Win98/Win2000 package with lots of Web features built in, so that the book could tie into the latest hot stuff, it might be marginally feasible. A topic that might sell would be "Web Windows 2000 Fractals For Dummies and Idiots" Noooo thanks! If you doubt me, I *do* speak with some experience as an author of five books :-) Not that "past performance is any indicator of future results". You are right that the fractint books are out of date, although Fractal Creations 2nd Edition is still a very nice book for Fractint users if you can get your hands on it. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Popcorn inconsistency Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:37:08 -0600 Morgan wrote: > I hesitate to call this a bug, maybe more of a miswart. > > When using the evolver on the Popcorn type, the spawned variants are not > clipped to fit their boxes Someone else mentioned this. The popocorn type is absolutely unique in the way it works, and the folks who worked on it (Robin Bussell and Jonathan Osuch get the credit) understandably didn't think to check popcorn. My guess is that this is very easy to fix. We'll look into it. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Unisys enforces GIF patents... Date: 13 Sep 1999 21:37:07 -0600 David wrote: > > Meanwhile, there are tools available that allow you to > > convert your Fractint images to PNG for posting on Web > > sites. These can be viewed with any up to date version > > of IE or Netscape. > > And here we go again! Welcome to a Windows only world! Duhhh ... where did I use the word "Windows?" PNG tools are available for all platforms. > Of course, when PNG is actually standardized enough to > work right, it's a good replacement for GIF. But I've > been to too many sites where the PNGs won't display in > such up-to-date browser versions as Netscape Communicator > 4.61. The problem is that Netscape Communicator has a poor PNG reading implementation. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals a