From: Lee Skinner Subject: (fractint) Re: Bugs and Midgets Date: 01 Mar 2000 07:32:16 -0500 Jim and Ken, >> But I have seen several reports that UF can zoom one or two orders of= magnitude deeper than Fractint. << > I don't believe this to be true. UF doesn't currently support arbitrar= y precision. That is coming in the next version. About the max you can zo= om is on the order of 1e17. < I believe that you can zoom in about 3 orders of magnitude more in UF tha= n Fractint because UF uses the 80-bit long-double register math, while Fractint uses only 64-bit instructions. Tim once made an experimental version of Fractint that allowed a few fractal types to use the long-doub= le arithmetic, but it would have been too time-consuming to convert all of Fractint this way, so it was not further pursued. The nice thing is that= long-double doesn't slow down the computations like arbitrary precision does. Converting Mandelbrotmix4 to arbitrary precision would be extremel= y slow compared to mandels or julias. Lee Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@swbell.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kenneth Childress Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Bugs and Midgets Date: 01 Mar 2000 07:57:30 -0800 (PST) > At 09:38 PM 2/29/00 -0800, Ken Childress wrote: > >Jim, > > > >>Your assumption is confirmed. Those blocky, square and rectangular > >>shapes you run into at very large magnitudes are not a bug. They > >>are a sign that the limit of mathematical precision has been > >>exceeded. Since I have relatively little experience with Ultra- > >>Fractal, I cannot confirm that it has deeper zooming capacity. But > >>I have seen several reports that UF can zoom one or two orders of > >>magnitude deeper than Fractint. > > > >I don't believe this to be true. UF doesn't currently support > >arbitrary precision. That is coming in the next version. About the > >max you can zoom is on the order of 1e17. > > This confirms what I said. The maximum magnitude Fractint can reach > without switching to arbitrary precision is around 1e13. If UF can > zoom to 1e17, then it exceeds the zoom limit of Fractint by a factor > of around 10,000. My mistake. I didn't understand the distinction you made above. Ken... Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@swbell.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Barry N Merenoff <110144.2274@compuserve.com> Subject: (fractint) fractals and art Date: 01 Mar 2000 11:21:36 -0500 The painting "Nami" (don't know the artist) is an excellent fractal. It i= s an abstract depiction of an ocean wave. Sincerely, Collin Merenoff Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@swbell.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "lele" Subject: R: (fractint) fractals and art Date: 01 Mar 2000 19:03:31 +0100 > like Escher maybe), ancient Indian artists, - Check out Paul Klee's paintings maybe pollock too ciau ne', lele ...WINDOWS: (W) ish (I) (N)ever (D)itched (O)ld (W)orking (S)oftwAre. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@swbell.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DeBow Freed II PhD Subject: [Fwd: (fractint) fractals and art] Date: 01 Mar 2000 16:29:04 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2844364653A3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eleanor - A place to start might be the latest of Amazon.com's hard-sell items (ie, listed on their homepage) called Fractals in African Art, or some such. Otherwise, just input "fractal" to amazon.com, B&Noble, or Borders' search engines and you'll get a wealth of books on the intersection of fine art/fractals/symmetry in general, etc. Good authors to look up are Hargittai(Istvan), and the more popular typess like Glieck(Chaos), and the whole crew of former and current Science News correspondents like Ivars Petersen, etc. You may also wish to check out a great vendor named Lifespring: all fractal based images which can be obtained as prints, Kodachromes, and even coffee cups (I like mine).If you're interested, I can provide you with the name and URL's of the last few places which have old copies of FracPaint software and other artist-friendly graphics tools. Finally, at last count, I had 6 books about Escher and fractals. Actually what he's doing is called "tiling" and "conformal mapping" (a la Roger Penrose's "kites and darts"), all of which seem to appeal aesthetically to the same people, including myself. Good luck, DeBow Freed md PhD --------------2844364653A3 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from lists.xmission.com from [198.60.22.7] by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.432) with esmtp for sender: id ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:52:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 2.12 #2) id 12Q16o-0003yu-00 for fractint-gooutt@lists.xmission.com; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 21:51:38 -0700 Message-ID: <20000301045133.47302.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [209.88.190.131] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: fractint@lists.xmission.com X-Airmail-Delivered: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:52:57 -0600 (CST) X-Airmail-Spooled: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:52:56 -0600 (CST) I have been getting into fractals and fractal shapes and have been leaning that artists were influenced by and had used fractals shapes in their art work even before the word fractals was coined. Do any of you have ideas as to which artists these might be (like Escher maybe), ancient Indian artists, etc. Thanks Eleanor ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@swbell.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" --------------2844364653A3-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@swbell.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 02-03-00 (Network of Tongues [3]) (c) Date: 02 Mar 2000 00:14:34 -0500 (EST) FOTD -- March 02, 2000 (Rating 3) Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries: Today's fractal is different. It is different because it has no midget at the center, and also because it is not much more than a pattern. I named the picture "Network of Tongues" because it is a view of some familiar tongue-like objects seen from an unfamiliar direction, in which the tongues appear as a network of crossing bands. Regardless of whether one examines the Mandelbrot or Julia aspects of the formula Z^50000+C, it would never be expected to produce anything other than a circle with 49999 or 50000 identical invisible tiny bays around the circumfrence. But today's fractal does not examine the Mandelbrot or Julia aspects of this extreme formula -- it examines the Rectangular aspect, cutting through the Julibrot along the imag(z) and imag(c) axes at a point just inside the hypersurface of the four-dimensional object. The criss-crossing parallel bands are actually a sideways view of a few of the tens of thousands of tiny bays around the perimeter of the fractal. On the large scale the bands appear identical, though a deeper examination will reveal the tiny differences that appear because every band is cut at a slightly different point. As a special treat for all time-presses fractalists, the parameter file renders in a short 19 seconds. And running the parameter file is really the best way to view the image, since this preserves the image data. For those who would still prefer to download the finished image, that image has been posted to Usenet at: and to the web at: The fractal weather today was partly cloudy and 61F (16C), which was enough to lure the fractal cats onto the porch -- at least while the sun was shining. Once again today all my philosophical energy was expended on a separate letter to the philofractal list. I'll try again tomorrow to return to my topic of fractal spirituality -- but no guarantee is implied. Until then, take care, and make fractals while the sun shines. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Network_of_Tongues { ; time=0:00:19.38 SF5 on a P200 ; Version 2000 Patchlevel 8 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=slices.frm formulaname=RectangularN passes=1 center-mag=0/+0.00063368152078376/2563.02/0.9625/-52\ .867/15.735 params=50000/0/0.99983/0/0.99983/0 float=y maxiter=350 bailout=25 inside=150 logmap=3 symmetry=none periodicity=10 colors=000HCMcRZ8aCMVN_OY4VWKQ_ZLcH00Y9MR0mb9j2l7QXQ\ s6ppCkQISaH_uClrEjoGhP0KU5S`9XgDbZFncGkhHii3xC2D<2>d\ E`6DnSFjjDU<2>mGdxrNteUpT`clQgaWjRaqJ1oIN8Pd<2>cJgho\ nkYjjB1lENHH_g9EjT6kPJlLWaPYNwPWhWdVaAfcUUeNdA<2>gN_\ Asb<2>cQfqvGoaUMs6<2>fQZsQPpLZfDSjF_dOzgLsjJmXE7<2>i\ HZqp0odFnTU4zA<2>bS_720TAMpgonUk_vN<2>jRbIlDTaOcRYXw\ ZbhahVdb`GhRUMYW<2>fLdeneOQCXNNeKYpNvoLqnJl0AML3fV8g\ dDgpq8nZQOeyXXsePm6rA<2>bQ_axp<2>jSi0hYHZaYQdX1jXVeR\ abafhmmz_URPD4DSN2edHNgW5j<3>qzQUtH6o8kMxlKrmIloTz<2\ >mKkmKBmISD7mQBkaEi2zEIjOYWY2pSzOcuLeqJfQIq<2>gHiaKC\ gIS1`7QRQjqSgbjjShrSW<2>nJd2syIfsYUmp`tM29fFVjGaY6Jh\ gfkUg99kbGXcl0<2>kPXiNCkKSc6ZhCcRZO<2>hLbSQ0<2>hJXdk\ xg`rjRl_VE<2>jK`S_ebQfSQb_NdfKftpzpZpGD_SFbbGeq38o8K\ nDWttwqfqoUl1K8IJKYIWyLnuJkqIi8t6JjG } frm:RectangularN {; Jim Muth b=p1, z=flip(real(pixel))+p2, c=flip(imag(pixel))+p3: z=z^(b)+c, |z| <= 16 } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@swbell.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ton Koppens" Subject: (fractint) Mandel_Lake pars Date: 02 Mar 2000 11:56:34 +0100 Hello list, I've been playing with the formula Sylvie Gallet posted recently wich I thought was very nice. Here are some sample pars, please feel free to comment. Greetings, Ton 00020401 { ; CalcTime 0:01:02.72 at 800x600 on a P166 ; Image Copyright 04 Feb 2000 by Ton Koppens ; e-mail:t.koppens@hccnet.nl ; Version 2000 Patchlevel 6 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_m.frm formulaname=Mandel_lake ismand=y passes=1 center-mag=-0.715895/0.45576/6.666667 params=-2/0.05/2/50/0.2/300 float=y maxiter=647 decomp=256 biomorph=1 colors=fhYmphorkmohoqjlognqilnfmphknemohkmdlogjlclnfjlbkneikbkmdhkajlchj\ `jlbgi_ikbgiZhkafhYhj`fhYgi_egXgiZ<14>acQ`bP`bP`bP<3>_aN_`MZ`MZ`MZ_L_aMa\ cO_aMYZJ<4>WYHWXHWXHVXGVXG<2>RTEQSEQSFQSG<3>WZR<3>CDA675454565<3>A96CA6D\ B6<2>OKCOKANJ8MI5<3>SM5UN5VO5<2>_S4<8>njQplSqoV<3>xwc<6>bmXZkWWiV<2>MeSJ\ cRHcRD`P9ZO9XN8UL<3>7QJ7PI7OH7NG6MG6LF<2>APJ8MH6JE4FB<4>3A7396286<3>1437\ 76787898<3>OQPLNMIKIFGEEFD<4>HIHIJHJKI<2>LMKMNLOQONOM<40>ormpsnqto<2>svq\ twrruotvrqtnsvqqsmruppsmruoprlqtnorkqsmoqjpsmnqiprl } 00020801 { ; CalcTime 0:00:44.59 at 800x600 on a P166 ; Image Copyright 08 Feb 2000 by Ton Koppens ; e-mail:t.koppens@hccnet.nl ; Version 2000 Patchlevel 6 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_m.frm formulaname=Mandel_lake ismand=y center-mag=0/0/0.6666667 params=1/1/1/35/0.4/300 float=y inside=atan outside=atan decomp=256 biomorph=1 colors=acdqstnpsprrmoqoqplnononkmmmnljlkkmjikijkhhjgijegiehicfhcghaegaff\ _df_deYdeYcdWccXbbUbbVaaSaaT``P``R__N__PYYLZZNXXJYYLWWHXXJVUFWWHUTDVVFTS\ BUUDRQ8TSBRP8SRAQO8SR9QN8RP9PM8PN8<11>E83D73C52<2>921800911<8>KGHLIJMKL<\ 2>QPQRQSQPPUUVPONWXZPOLZ`bONJUWWNMIPQPNMGKKIMLEFEALKCGE9MKCHE8OKCIE7PLBJ\ E5RLBMG5SLBPI6UMASK7VMAVM8XN9aQAaTFbXKe_M<2>ljWnn_rrbtvezzf<3>haFcW8ZP0<\ 2>TL0RJ0QJ0<3>MG0LF0KE0<2>HC0<4>`YJeaNifR<3>zxf<4>ZYOTSKNNG<3>000<4>000<\ 4>SRJYXNcaR<3>zxf<4>ZYOTSKNNG<3>000<4>000<4>000344000788000BCC000FGG556J\ KKBBCNOPGHIQSTMNOUWXSSUY_`XY_bceeghhilikmkknkmonnqmoqqqtoqsttwqsuwwzsuxv\ vyrtwuvyrtvtuxqsvsuxprurtworurtvnqt } 00020804 { ; CalcTime 0:01:16.12 at 800x600 on a P166 ; Image Copyright 08 Feb 2000 by Ton Koppens ; e-mail:t.koppens@hccnet.nl ; Version 2000 Patchlevel 6 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_m.frm formulaname=Mandel_lake ismand=y center-mag=-0.130163/0.75626/6.666667 params=3.270271919919431/4.941831720938749/1.230036317026276/44.00323496\ 200446/0.3323038422803431/250.1119113742485 float=y maxiter=647 inside=atan outside=real decomp=128 biomorph=1 colors=urp054032000<16>000<3>000111222<36>gjfhkgilh<3>nql000kkkzwwxutzww\ xusyvvwtryvuvtrxutvsqxusurpwtrurovtrtqntsqspnrrpqompqoonlnonmmklnmkljjmk\ ikihkjgjhejieigcihchfahgage_ff_fdYedYedWdcXccUbbVbbSaaTaaP``R``N__P__LYY\ NZZJXXLYYHWWJXXFUVHWWDTUFVVBSTDUU8QRBST7PQARS8QR9RS7PQ8QR7MN7PQ6JK7MN5GH\ 6JK5FE8IH5DABHD6B6EG9A82HF5DA3JG5GC4LH6JE5NI6MG5PJ7PI6RK7SK7<2>XN9aQAaTF\ bXKe_M<2>ljWnn_rrbtvezzf<3>haFcW8ZP0<2>TL0RJ0QJ0<15>A70960860<3>43003202\ 1000<3>000000000<3>000<4>0FA0IC0LF<3>Jb_NgdSli<2>fzz<3>Jb_DXT7RM0LF<5>07\ 5 } 00021001 { ; uses found_object7.map by Kathy Roth ; CalcTime 0:00:34.25 at 800x600 on a P166 ; Image Copyright 10 Feb 2000 by Ton Koppens ; e-mail:t.koppens@hccnet.nl ; Version 2000 Patchlevel 6 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_m.frm formulaname=Mandel_lake ismand=n center-mag=0/0/0.6666667 params=-0.1302591021454512/0.04721518601031524/16.60734885708182/45.2768\ 9443647572/-0.2630573442793054/300.8947111423078 float=y inside=fmod decomp=256 biomorph=1 cyclerange=0/255 colors=000dgWbXN<8>NJDLICJGB<3>CA7<6>RMGTOHVQI<3>bXN<3>QMGNJEKHCHEA<3>UP\ HXSJ_ULbXN<4>QMFNJDKHC<3>985<4>985<3>A96A96`VM<3>B97<3>CA8CA8000<3>00000\ 0111<28>oooqqqsss<3>zzz<27>AAA888666444222000<57>000000000<2>000111332<2\ 3>ldTnfUphV<3>xn_<7>jbShaRdfW } 00021501 { ; CalcTime 0:00:24.33 at 800x600 on a P166 ; Image Copyright 15 Feb 2000 by Ton Koppens ; e-mail:t.koppens@hccnet.nl ; Version 2000 Patchlevel 6 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_m.frm formulaname=Mandel_lake ismand=n center-mag=0/0/0.6666667 params=0.4/0.1253/24/45/0.2/350 float=y maxiter=647 decomp=64 biomorph=1 colors=aAECMA<2>BI9BH8BH8<3>AE79D6DE6<3>UI9YJAaLBeMCgODjQF<2>nVJ<3>vdByg\ 8yh5yi3<14>yuhyukyvn<2>yywzzzxww<9>bRS`NPYKL<2>SACP68P68<18>aBHbBHcBIcCI\ dCJeCJdCIcBHbBF`AC<3>X86W75U63<21>sjTtlUunV<2>ytZzv_yv_<24>ZumYunXun<2>U\ upStqRrp<13>CNYBLX9JV<3>5AQ<3>77E86B858945A32<4>A96AA7AC8AD9AEA<4>DMGEOH\ FQIFRKGTLHVMHWOIYPJ_R<3>KcPKdOKeOKfNLhM<6>enBhoAkp8<3>wt1<6>Zf8Vd9SbA<3>\ DVF<5>CNB } 00022501 { ; uses jacco200.map ; CalcTime 0:00:59.92 at 800x600 on a P166 ; Image Copyright 25 Feb 2000 by Ton Koppens ; e-mail:t.koppens@hccnet.nl ; Version 2000 Patchlevel 8 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_m.frm formulaname=Mandel_lake ismand=n center-mag=0/0/0.6666667 params=0.2/0.5/36/45/0.2/250 float=y inside=bof60 outside=imag decomp=128 biomorph=1 colors=zzzfdeZWYTPRNJMJEHFAC957957634422<2>200<13>`00c00e00<3>o00<9>ub0v\ f0wj0<3>zz0<3>zk0zg0zc0<3>zO0<25>zq0zr0zt0<2>zw0zw1zw3<3>zw9zwAzuA<13>mL\ AlJAkGAjEAiBAh8Bf59d17<8>P13N13L13<3>E11K00N00<3>U00V00W00<6>b00c00d00<7\ >i00j00k00<2>m00m00m22<3>oDDpGGpHG<10>oa6nc5ne4<2>nk1mm0mm3<10>uuevvhwwl\ <3>zzz<4>zzzzai<3>znbzqazt_zxY<12>zyqzyrzyt<2>zyxzzzzzyzywzxvzwt<3>xiZxf\ TwbN<3>uP0uQ2uN2 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@swbell.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fliguer, Miguel" Subject: RE: (fractint) Mandel_Lake pars Date: 02 Mar 2000 14:27:49 -0300 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF846C.A2260BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>>Here are some sample pars, please feel free to comment. Very nice, specially the last one (0022501). In my next site update I'll be including a couple of images which also use this impressive feature. Regards, Miguel Fliguer - Buenos Aires, Argentina http://members.xoom.com/fliguer/franktal.html ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF846C.A2260BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: (fractint) Mandel_Lake pars

>>>Here are some sample pars, please feel = free to comment.

Very nice, specially the last one (0022501). In my = next
site update I'll be including a couple of images = which
also use this impressive feature.

Regards,
Miguel Fliguer - Buenos Aires, Argentina
http://members.xoom.com/fliguer/franktal.html

------_=_NextPart_001_01BF846C.A2260BC0-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@swbell.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 03-03-00 (A Work of Lace [5]) (c) Date: 03 Mar 2000 00:57:32 -0500 (EST) FOTD -- March 03, 2000 (Rating 5) Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries: It's been another busy day here at Fractal Central, which serves other purposes during the daylight hours. Having so much work that pays, I had little time for hunting fractals, which does not pay. But with the aid of my faithful fractal companion MandelbrotMix4, I did manage to find a fractal. The fractal may not be the best of all time, but it is still good enough to pass for FOTD for 03-03-00. The fractal picture that resulted from my hurried efforts was named "A Work of Lace". The lace-like filaments surrounding the central midget inspired the name. These filaments, not surprisingly, are fractal in themselves. The deeper one zooms into them, the more they sub-divide. Like everything in the land of fractals, this sub-division continues to infinity. The image was created by bringing up the M-Mix4 formula and adding a tiny bit of Z^(-2) to Z^5. The parameter file completes in a relatively speedy 1-1/2 minutes. If this is still too long to wait, the image file has been posted in GIF format to: and to: I chose GIF format for today's fractal because when I JPEG'd the image, it suffered too much deterioration. I'll return to the standard JPEG format tomorrow. The fractal weather was March-like today, as blustery winds made the temperature of 54F (12C) feel a lot colder than it actually was. Of course, any high wind keeps the fractal cats indoors, snug by their radiator. There was simply no time for deep fractal-philosophy thought today. I'll give it another try tomorrow. Until then, take care, and the only thing better than a fractal is a second fractal. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ A_Work_of_Lace { ; time=0:01:21.02 SF5 on a P200 ; Version 2000 Patchlevel 8 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1 center-mag=+0.71089911843303690/+0.70377407190488450\ /42499.88/1/130 params=1/5/0.001/-2/0/0 float=y maxiter=750 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=11 symmetry=none periodicity=10 colors=000TUw<5>JeyHgyFiy<3>9qz<3>ImmKhjM_g<3>UPWWMT\ YJQ<2>cBHe9If8I<3>b6Pa6R`6T<3>Y5Z<7>XOSXRRXTQXWQXYP<\ 3>_fM<18>rRJsQJtPIuPIvOI<5>wJHwIHwHG<3>wEG<8>wcMweMw\ hN<2>wqPwsPwtU<3>wxjwynvzm<14>gzmfzmezm<2>bzmbzm`zk<\ 16>FzKEzIDzG<3>7zA2z06z8<3>1z15zS<27>1z50z40z4<3>0z0\ wzt<26>CzBAzA8z8<3>1z18zR<20>0z2 } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@swbell.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 04-03-00 (Only a Sideshow [4]) (c) Date: 04 Mar 2000 02:00:30 -0500 (EST) FOTD -- March 04, 2000 (Rating 4) Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries: I've named today's fractal "Only a Sideshow". I gave it this name because I stumbled upon it while on the spoor of another scene. Since today's image rated a modest 4, and I had no assurance that the scene I was hunting would be any better, I declared the accidental discovery Fractal of the Day. The main event may of may not ever appear. The formula behind the picture adds a tiny bit of 1/Z to a lot of Z. This is another of those combinations that would not be expected to produce anything of interest. But as is so often the case, fractals are surprising. There are two ways to view the surprise -- the long hard way and the short easy way. The long hard way is to run the attached parameter file and wait 25 minutes. The short easy way is to retrieve the JPEG image file found on Usenet at: and on the Web at: Of course, choosing the short easy method deprives you of the embedded data. The fractal weather was sunny but quite March-like today, with brisk breezes and a temperature of 54F (12C). The combination held the fractal cats to only a brief trip out of doors. The time I found to ponder philosophy was briefer than even the cats' outing. In fact, it was so close to zero as to be insignificant. But hope springs eternal, and I'll try again tomorrow. Until then, take care, and after all these years we still don't know exactly what a fractal is. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Only_a_Sideshow { ; time=0:24:50.12 SF5 on a P200 ; Version 2000 Patchlevel 8 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1 center-mag=-0.03232711189412853/+0.01890824624256709\ /1.774262e+009 params=10/1/0.01/-1/-0.9/100 float=y maxiter=3600 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=480 symmetry=none periodicity=10 colors=000z00z00z30zC0vI0oQ0iY0ba0dd2eg8gjDilKjoQlrV\ mvaowgqzlrzrtzyrzvtzzrzzvzzwzzyyz<3>zozzlzzizzgzzdyz\ byz_wzXv<3>zbwzdwzeyzgyzgy<3>zmzzozzqzzqzzeqmVgaKYN8\ O305A0GF0SK0bA0oO2mbCloNlzXjzejzbqz_vzYzzVzzVzzTz<2>\ zSzwQztQwqQvlOriOoeOmbNj_NiXNeTNdOLa<3>CKS8KQ5KN0LG2\ LL5OQ8TVCY_FbdIii<2>SwwYzzVzzSwyOqvNlrKeoGalFViCQe8K\ b3Dg7D_8DTADNDDGFDAGD3ID0GD3FD8FDFDDKCDOCDVAD_ADdGAY\ <2>V0K<3>o00t00y00w00w33vDAvNGtXNteTro_ryevzwrzlqzao\ zQmzGlz5jz0iz0QC0LD0GD2CD87DD2DI0DO0DT0DV0DY0Fd5GiFG\ oNItXIzdKzjGzlKzmNzmOroSioTaqXSqYKraArb2te0tg0qi0<3>\ di0ai0_j0<3>Nj0Kj0Ao0<2>Yt0av0ew0by0_y3<3>NzTKz_Gze<\ 2>7zy3zz2zz2zz3zz3zz5zy5zt7zq7zl8zo7zi5zd3zY2zT0zO<3\ >0z20z00z00z02z0<3>Lz0Qz0Vz0_z0bz0Yz0Tz0Qz5LzDIzKDzS\ Yz_bzT<2>vzAzz3zz0zz0 } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@swbell.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eleanor Adika" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractals and art Date: 04 Mar 2000 09:51:54 PST Thanks to all for you help eleanor >From: "Eleanor Adika" >Reply-To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >To: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Subject: (fractint) fractals and art >Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 20:51:33 PST > >I have been getting into fractals and fractal shapes and have been leaning >that artists were influenced by and had used fractals shapes in their art >work even before the word fractals was coined. Do any of you have ideas as >to which artists these might be (like Escher maybe), ancient Indian >artists, >etc. > >Thanks > >Eleanor >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@swbell.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@swbell.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lee Skinner Subject: (fractint) fractals and art Date: 04 Mar 2000 20:20:22 -0500 Thank you Eleanor, for you kind comments. I don't know if I mentioned this to you earlier, but I do sell a Fractal CDROM for $29.95 that has over 2600 of my best images on it (Fractal Dimensions). E-mail me again if you wish ordering instructions. Lee Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@swbell.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RParracho@aol.com Subject: (fractint) fractal file losses Date: 04 Mar 2000 21:37:43 EST Never thought it would be me, but i was recently burgled. They took lots of "stuff" that is easily replaceable but they also took my computer...wires and all. Unfortunately they took my zip drive too, and in it was my latest fractint backup zip disk. 3 years of formulas and pars and maps etc, gone! If you keep backups, i strongly suggest keeping two...one being those precious irreplacable files. This week i purchased a new computer and have started to rebuild my loss...orgform. spanky, skinner. To save me some time I was wondering if any of you are interested in sending me links, lists, zipped accumilations of your own...i would greatly appreciate it. in the mean time I am preparing a posting for next week. best regards to all ------- End of forwarded message ------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@swbell.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 05-03-00 (Sea-Ice [5]) (c) Date: 05 Mar 2000 02:33:44 -0500 (EST) FOTD -- March 05, 2000 Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries: Today's fractal scene is part of the overall fractal that results when Z^0.75 is subtracted from 0.01*(Z^(-99)) before adding C. I have named the picture "Sea-Ice" because an earlier version was colored to resemble an expanse of broken ice floes. The icy blue colors have been replaced by an electric violet scheme, but the name has remained the same. The image is composed of those broken, loose-floating fragments of fractal material that characterize most formulae which include negative powers of Z. As the 7-1/2 minutes required to run the parameter file is a bit long for comfort, I suggesting downloading the JPEG image file from: or from: The fractal weather today was once again notably average, though a bit milder than yesterday. The temperature of 56F (13.5C) was close to, but not quite at a temperature warm enough for the fractal cats to enjoy themselves outdoors. For now, I notice that the cats are hungry and the hour is late. My best action is to call it a night and shut down Fractal Central. Until next time, take care, and be kind to your fractals and they'll be kind to you. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Sea-Ice { ; time=0:07:21.06 SF5 on a P200 ; Version 2000 Patchlevel 8 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1 center-mag=+1.99125290358008300/-0.02582855063707024\ /1.458575e+011/1/42.454/0.037 params=0.01/-99/-1/0.75/0/0 float=y maxiter=1200 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=143 symmetry=none periodicity=10 colors=000c5za5w_5uX5qW5oT5kR5iO5fN5cL5aI5YH5WE5SC5Q\ 95M80H80G80D80A<4>80A80A80D80G80880CL3TM3WO2XQ2_R0`<\ 2>W0dN0RM0WL0QO0TXNL<3>aKCbKAcMCcNDdQEdRGfTHfUIgXKgY\ Lh`M<4>jhSkiTkkUllWloXnpYnr_os`ovapwbpxc<2>sndujdugd\ <2>xXdxTdyQf<3>zAfz6fz2fz0f<2>z0gz3hz6hyAiwDivGjuIjs\ MkrOkpRloTlnXnl_nkaoicohgp<2>dnqfln<3>gjdgjbgi`<3>hg\ RhgOifMifKidHidEdfK<3>Ri`NjdKkhGklClp8nu3nxDkwLjvSiv\ _hugfsndsucrzbr<5>l_dj_bh_`fYYcYXaYU_XSXXQUXNSWLQWIN\ UGLTDISAGR9<2>CNSAMYALbCLgCLkQEyI9qA9j28c08X0AY0CY3E\ Y6GY9HYCKYEL_HM_KO_MQ_OS_QT_SU`UX`XY`<3>fdahfajgalia\ ojapkanl`ln_ko_jpY<2>gsXfsWgsU<6>osQpsQqsO<3>vsMwsMx\ scysa<3>zsXzsWzsUzsTzsX<4>zshzsjzsl<3>zsvzsrzspzslzs\ jzshzsd<2>zsXzsfzsp } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@swbell.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jacco Burger" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractal file losses Date: 05 Mar 2000 20:17:34 +0100 Your story sounds like a true nightmare! I keep a backup of my most important fractal-files at my work, but after reading your story I think I better make sure it is up to date.... One link that I treasure is the Fractint Discussion List Resources: http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/iFAQ/Resource.htm You are also welcome to download 150 of my Fractint color maps at http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~jaccobu Just follow the link called ' Files '. I hope you can find the courage and energy to start all over again! Take care! Jacco ----------------- ----------------- ----------------- e-mail: Jacco.Burger@kabelfoon.nl Jacco's Fractal Pages: http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~jaccobu/index.htm Jacco's Fractal Kitchen: http://www.crosswinds.net/~jacco ----------------- ----------------- ----------------- Van: RParracho@aol.com Onderwerp: (fractint) fractal file losses >Never thought it would be me, but i was recently burgled. They took lots of >"stuff" that is easily replaceable but they also took my computer...wires and >all. Unfortunately they took my zip drive too, and in it was my latest >fractint backup zip disk. 3 years of formulas and pars and maps etc, gone! >If you keep backups, i strongly suggest keeping two...one being those >precious irreplacable files. This week i purchased a new computer and have >started to rebuild my loss...orgform. spanky, skinner. To save me some time >I was wondering if any of you are interested in sending me links, lists, >zipped accumilations of your own...i would greatly appreciate it. in the >mean time I am preparing a posting for next week. > >best regards to all Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@swbell.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JoWeber Subject: (fractint) fractal file losses Date: 05 Mar 2000 17:43:28 -0500 Hi, >I was wondering if any of you are interested in sending me links, lists,= = >zipped accumilations of your own...i would greatly appreciate it. in th= e = >mean time I am preparing a posting for next week. Maybe you will goto http://www.joweber.de and their to my download page o= r to the Developer Page and you can download much files. For the newest patch 20.0.8 of fractint go to http://www.fractint.org. Best wishes --Jo-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@swbell.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 06-03-00 (Shlubbered Midget [6]) (c) Date: 06 Mar 2000 00:13:33 -0500 (EST) FOTD -- March 06, 2000 (Rating 6) Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries: Standing in as FOTD for March 6 we have a shlubbered midget. If you have no idea what a shlubbered midget is, either launch the attached parameter file and wait 15 minutes, or download the pre-calculated image file from Usenet at: or from the web at: and see the image in a matter of seconds. I have named the picture "Shlubbered Midget" purely as a description, for surely no midget has ever been so thoroughly shlubbered, (whatever that means). The formula behind the mayhem is Z^0.7071-2Z^(-1.4142))+C, which is totally whimsical. The image is all inside=fmod, the outside features having long since evaporated with the rising escape radius. The color palette is a slightly modified version of the Shift-F1 palette built into Fractint. All the palettes work well with the inside=fmod option, bringing out the full blobbiness of the bubbles this fill creates. The fractal weather today featured brilliant sunshine and a temperature of 66F (19C), which was just mild enough to keep the fractal cats happy. With such perfect weather to enjoy, I spent most of the day getting caught up in yard work. This left little time for deep philosophical pondering. What little pondering I did involved the possibility that life can be expressed as a fractal. If we could find the formula that accurately describes the past and present, what would happen if we let that formula continue running? Would it predict the future? I came to no conclusion this afternoon, but the possibility is worth consideration. I now must consider the hour. It's 11:45pm, which is already past the time to shut down the fractal shoppe and call it a night. Until next time, take care, and see you in 24 hours. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Shlubbered_Midget { ; time=0:15:48.84 SF5 on a P200 ; Version 2000 Patchlevel 8 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1 center-mag=-2.783287532819208/-1.970634413617076/522\ 3.116/1/-77.499 params=1/0.7071/-2/-1.4142/1/5000000 float=y maxiter=1200 bailout=25 inside=fmod proximity=0.5 logmap=yes symmetry=none periodicity=10 colors=000pwz<6>pwz<46>pllpllpll<142>HDDHDDHDD<2>GCC\ GCBGCAFB9FB8<3>EA4EA3EA2<39>401 } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@swbell.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) fractal file losses Date: 06 Mar 2000 01:06:26 -0600 RParracho@aol.com wrote: > > I was wondering if any of you are interested > in sending me links, lists, ......... Hundreds of fractal related references at: http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/Fractal_Links.txt P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@swbell.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 07-03-00 (Midget in a Tile Bowl [6]) (c) Date: 07 Mar 2000 00:57:56 -0500 (EST) FOTD -- March 07, 2000 (Rating 6 Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries: Today's fractal appears about ready to go down the drain. The little midget in the center reminds me so much of the drain in the wash basin that I couldn't resist but naming the picture "Midget in a Tile Bowl". The expression that was calculated by the MandelbrotMix4 formula to produce the image is Z^(0.9)+Z^(-1.9)+C. The escape radius of 17.5 (100-82.5) is critical. A lesser bailout eliminates the edge detail; a greater bailout breaks the image down into scattered bits and pieces. The image then requires an inside fill of something like bof60 to reveal the midget. It also takes almost forever to run. The parameter file is a slow one, which drags along for nearly an hour on a Pentium 200mhz. Relief may be found on Usenet at: and on the Worldwide Web at Paul lee's web site at: in the form of the JPEG'd image file. All wise fractalists will pick up the image from one of these sites and save the parameter file for reference only. The fractal weather today was sunny, but not so warm as yesterday, the temperature of 57F (14C) being just a bit too chilly for the intrepid duo of fractal cats. As for now, the cats are getting hungry and I'm getting tired. Until next time, take care, and wash your troubles down the fractal drain. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Midget_in_TileBowl { ; time=0:54:57.40 SF5 on a P200 ; Version 2000 Patchlevel 8 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1 center-mag=-1.00493407943142000/+0.03758239708686328\ /7.124526e+011/1/147.488/-0.065 params=1/0.9/1/-1.9/0/-82.5 float=y maxiter=8000 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=-1125 symmetry=none periodicity=10 mathtolerance=/1 colors=000HUf<3>JkNJpIKtDKx9adGeaOkWUdd`YmfFeM<4>PMa\ RJeTFh<3>_0t<4>aPwbTxbYx<2>clzcpzbnw<3>`hl_gi_fg<3>Z\ YbZWaYU_<2>YOXXLVVIS<2>S9MR6KS5K<3>ZG`_Ie`Ki<2>bPubQ\ yaSv<3>Z_jYagXce<3>UkYUmWToUSqSSrR<3>iWFmQCrL9vF6zA4\ <6>yBIyBKyBM<3>yBU<3>uMWtOXsRXsTX<3>rWQrXPqYN<2>q`Iq\ bHrbG<3>sfBtg9th8ti7<3>vmPvnTwoX<3>wsm<2>wvcmw`yxYvy\ _<7>bzh_ziYzk<2>QznOzoNzm<5>IzeHzdHzc<3>EzZ<4>gzm<2>\ xzu<3>zz_zzVzzQzzL<5>kzeizhfzl<3>Yzy<3>Mz`JzVGzO<3>4\ z0<4>Hz2Jz3Mz3<3>Vz4Xz5Zz6<7>lzEnzFozG<3>vzJ<2>_z6<3\ >IzEEzGAzHtz`<4>_zSFzuGzpGzk } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@swbell.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Hine" Subject: (fractint) Change to Iterates.TGA at Frain200? Date: 06 Mar 2000 22:12:12 -0800 Hello folks, I'm going to try to avoid bothering Tim directly, and post my question here first. A while back I wrote a little program called Deeper (link below) that uses the targa file ITERATES.TGA. This is the file Fractint produces when the command truecolor=yes is used. In order to read the file, I need to know the binary structure of the file, and apparently, that has changed since Frain196... it looks like the header might be the same, but I'm getting gobbeltygook when I try to retrieve and concatenate iteration values. My question is, can anyone point to or send documentation or code describing how the iteration values are being stored in the ITERATES.TGA file at Frain200? I realize this is probably a better question for the developer list, but I thought I'd try here first. And to those who were wondering, in case it wasn't sufficiently clear already: Deeper does not work with Frain200. Use version 19.6 until I get this fixed. Many thanks, Jason Hine tumnus@mindspring.com Author of Deeper --> http://tumnus.home.mindspring.com/deeper.htm Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@swbell.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Jones" Subject: (fractint) Re: FOTD, 06-03-00 (Shlubbered Midget) Date: 06 Mar 2000 21:46:19 -1000 Wow - what an image! Glad I finally got to see it! Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@swbell.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Iain G. Stirling" Subject: Re: (fractint) Mandel_Lake pars Date: 07 Mar 2000 23:26:51 -0000 Ton Koppens wrote: > Hello list, > > I've been playing with the formula Sylvie Gallet posted recently wich I > thought was very nice. > Here are some sample pars, please feel free to comment. > Splendid images. I especially like 00020801 - great colours, giving a sort of "metallic" feel to the image. Looks great rendered at 1600x1200 as my windows background :) Thanks, Iain. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@swbell.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Wegner Subject: (fractint) posting to the list Date: 07 Mar 2000 20:58:27 -0600 Turns out that the welcome message you get when you subscribe to this list has been out of date for a while. New members take note - you should send posts to fractint@lists.xmission.com, not fractint@xmission.com. I have also updated my email address. You might as well email me using the easy-to-remember alias twegner@fractint.org. I_m_mad_at_you@fractint.org works equally well :-) Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 08-03-00 (Minibrot Survival [7]) (c) Date: 08 Mar 2000 00:57:58 -0500 (EST) FOTD -- March 08, 2000 (Rating 7) Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries: A Minibrot midget is a delicate thing, especially when the generating formula contains a negative power of Z. In this situation, the scene containing the midget can be 'evaporated' by raising the bailout radius. Not all midgets in fractals with negative exponents in their generating formulae are vulnerable to evaporation, but the midget in yesterday's FOTD is one of the vulnerable ones. As the bailout is increased, the scene breaks down into discrete elements, the elements gradually shrink, and finally vanish altogether, leaving a most boring solid black screen of trapped points. But an invisible ghost still haunts the scene. Today's fractal is the ghost of yesterday's fractal, made visible by applying an inside fill of bof61 to the blank black screen that was left behind when the midget expired. Traces of the original scene are still visible forming circles around the midget, but in addition we now have spectacular multi-colored wedges radiating from the midget and overlapping the circular remains of the tile-like features that appeared in yesterday's FOTD. I named today's FOTD image "Minibrot Survival" because it is a picture of a Minibrot that has survived its own death. With this particular fractal, the inside=bof60 option brings out the best detail. With other images consisting of only trapped points, bof60 brings out the best detail, and with still others fmod or one of the other inside fill options works best. The only way to know for sure which inside fill will draw the best image is to try them all at thumbnail size. Since today's image is all inside, the parameter file is a slow one. Run it and wait if you so decide, but a far better way to view the picture is to go to the Usenet binary newsgroup: and download the JPEG format image file from there. The image may also be found on the WWW at Paul Lee's web site at the following URL: The all-unimportant weather report for today, (which is actually March 07, since the FOTD is dated one day in advance), is as follows -- hazy sunshine with a south wind and a temperature of 70F (21C) -- perfect conditions for cats to lie in the sun. I see that it's past the time to shut down the fractal shoppe, give the fractal cats their evening snack, and call it another day. I'll return tomorrow with another fractal to delight and amaze. Until then, take care, and remember that life is just one big fractal. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Minibrot_Survival { ; time=1:16:04.90 SF5 on a P200 ; Version 2000 Patchlevel 8 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1 center-mag=-1.00493407943142/+0.03758239708686328\ /7.124526e+011/1/147.488/-0.065 params=1/0.9/1/-1.9/0/1e+050 float=y maxiter=8000 bailout=25 inside=bof61 logmap=yes symmetry=none periodicity=10 colors=000QVVSSUVQSXNR_JQaHQdDOfBNi6Mk3Kn0Jo0J<2>M_w\ NYuOXtOWqQVpQVoRUlRSkSRiSQhUQfUOddqhapj_olvnnVlpSkrR\ jtCpx0vz0vj0vU0vB0t9<5>0j80i80h80e8<2>0a8MdNhf_eh`<2\ >_idXSeWifUihRjiQjjNjkMjkNhaOfUXzr_zuaxvdvwetxhqzjoz\ klznjzphzqeztczv`zwYzw`zwazwcz<2>whuwiq<3>wofwqdwr`w\ tYwuWcd`IOeMUjQYnUcqXfu`hv<3>jkxllxolyqnyuozwozypzzq\ zzqzzrzztzztzzpzzlxxivtetpaqk_ohWlcSj_OhVKeRIcQH`OFY\ NFXMDVKDSJCR<2>FBKIHI<3>S_8Vc6Xh3_l0ap0du0ex0fj0hW3`\ R0UM0NH0<3>NI0NI0NI0NI0NI1NI1NI3NI3NI5NI5NI5yMwzJrrH\ ozFkzCfzBc<3>z0N<2>z09etHfrNfqShpX<3>ikpjjujiyjizddw\ __pVVjOQc<2>89JCCN88ISFUdOWpY_jSadMdMUW<2>0k39d1HY1<\ 2>_C0e50k00l16l6BlBFnFK<3>oU`oXdp`ipclpfpqjuqnxqqzqt\ znpyjnuhkp<3>VaWS_ROXMMVHISBFQ5HR8ISBISDJUHJVJKVKKWN\ MXQMXSNYVNYW } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Guy Marson Subject: Re: (fractint) Just a FEW more L-systems... 3/6 Date: 08 Mar 2000 15:19:01 +0100 Hi Super .l-file! I'm now running every (.par) file manually. I need a version of PARTOBAT.exe running in a DOS-Window under Win98 .. My old version 3.3 don't run under Win98.. Is there a version of PARTOBAT.exe working well into a DOS-Window? cheers, Guy At 10:40 20/02/00 GET, you wrote: >ADH120a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=f+ff-f+f-ff-f > } > >ADH120b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=f+gg-f+g-gg-f > } > >ADH120c { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; Sierpinski variation... > Axiom f-f-f > f=f+fg-f+g-ff-f > } > >ADH120d { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=f+ff-g+g-f > } > >ADH120e { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=f+ff-f+g-ff-f > } > >ADH120f { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=f+ff-f+f-gf-f > } > >ADH120h { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=f+ff-f+f-ff-g > } > >ADH120i { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f > f=g+ff-g+f-ff-g > } > >ADH120j { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f+f+f > f=f+gf-g+f-gf-g > } > >ADH120k { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=f+ff-g+g-ff-f > } > >ADH120l { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=f+gg-f+f-ff-f > } > >ADH120o { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f+f+f > f=+ff-f+ff-f-f > } > >ADH120p { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f+f+f > f=f+fff-f+f-fff-f > } > >ADH120q { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f+f+f > f=f+ff-f+f-f-ff-f > } > >ADH120r { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f+f+f > f=f+ff-f-f-ff-f > } > >ADH120s { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=ff-f+f-ff-f > } > >ADH120t { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=f+ff-f+f-ff > } > >ADH120u { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=ff-f+f-ff+ > } > >ADH120v { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f+f+f > f=ff+ff-f+f-ff-ff > } > >ADH120x { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=f-ff-f+f+ff-f > } > >ADH120y { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=-ff-f+f-ff+f > } > >ADH120z { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f+f+f > f=f+[gg+f]+g- > } > >ADH120zb { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=f+ff+f-[f+f]f+f > } > >ADH120zd { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=fg-f+gf- > } > >ADH120ze { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=f+ff-f-f+ff-f > } > >ADH120zf { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=f+ff-[f+f]+ff+f > } > >ADH120zg { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > > > Axiom f+f+f > f=[f-ff]-f+f-ff-f > } > >ADH120zh { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=f-gg-f+g-gg-f > } > >ADH120zi { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=f-[gfg]-g+f-gg-f > } > >ADH120zj { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=g-fg-g-gg-f > } > >ADH120zm { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=f-ff-f+f-[gf-f] > } > >ADH120zn { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=f-g[f-g+f]-gg-f > } > >ADH120zo { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=f-gg+f-ff-g > } > >ADH120zp { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f+f+f > f=g-ff-g+f-ff-g > } > >ADH120zq { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f+f+f > f=g-ff-g+f-ff-g > } > >ADH120zr { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f+f+f > f=f-gf-g+f-gg-f > } > >ADH120zs { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f+f+f > f=f-gg-f+g-gf-f > } > >ADH120zt { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=g-ff-g+g-ff-g > } > >ADH120zx { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=f-fg-f+g+g-fg-f > } > >ADH120zy { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f+f+f > f=f-ff-f-f-ff-f > } > >ADH120zz { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=ff+f+g-ff-f > } > >ADH120zza { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=f-ff-f+f-ff > } > >ADH120zzb { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=fg+f+g-fg+ > } > >ADH120zze { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f+f+f > f=f-fg+f+f+gf-f > } > >ADH120zzf { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=-fg+f+g-fg-f > } > >ADH120zzg { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f+f+f > f=f+ff-f+f-ff-f > } > >ADH120zzh { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f+f+f > f=+ff-f-f-ff+f > } > >ADH120zzi { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=f-ff+f-f+ff+f > } > >ADH120zzj { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=+ff-f-f-ff-f > } > >ADH120zzl { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=f+gg+f-g+fg-f > } > >ADH120zzm { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 > Angle 3 ; > Axiom f-f-f > f=f+fg+f+f+gg+f > } > > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@swbell.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonathan Osuch" Subject: RE: (fractint) Change to Iterates.TGA at Frain200? Date: 08 Mar 2000 16:18:57 -0600 Jason, The targa file output is broken in version 20.0. It has been fixed in the developer's version. At least, as far as I can tell. I don't use this feature, so I'm sure I haven't tested everything. The newest version is 20.0.8 and it can be found at http://www.fractint.org. The file you want is FRADEV.ZIP. Jonathan Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James R. McKenzie" Subject: (fractint) Fractint 20.0.8 Date: 08 Mar 2000 17:54:07 -0500 When I try to get fractint Developer's Version 20.0.8 I end up with 20.0.6 Developer's Version. Is this the same thing each as the other. I'm getting from ftp://ftp.fractint.org . As far as I know I'm doing it right. Please respond ASAP. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonathan Osuch" Subject: RE: (fractint) Change to Iterates.TGA at Frain200? Date: 08 Mar 2000 16:18:57 -0600 Jason, The targa file output is broken in version 20.0. It has been fixed in the developer's version. At least, as far as I can tell. I don't use this feature, so I'm sure I haven't tested everything. The newest version is 20.0.8 and it can be found at http://www.fractint.org. The file you want is FRADEV.ZIP. Jonathan Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: (fractint) Spanky Fractal Database Date: 08 Mar 2000 23:15:34 -0500 Greetings folks, I've coordinated with Noel Giffin and have been able to set up a mirror of the Spanky Fractal Database: http://spanky.fractint.org/ This has exactly the same content as the primary Spanky web site: http://spanky.triumf.ca/ Or at least, it's supposed to. If you notice glaring problems with the spanky.fractint.org mirror, let me know, and I can look into it. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 09-03-00 (Star-Struck Midget [6]) (c) Date: 09 Mar 2000 01:28:31 -0500 (EST) FOTD -- March 09, 2000 (Rating 6) Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries: Today's fractal was created by the formula 1/Z-Z+C -- a formula that obviously can produce nothing of interest in the way of fractals. But being unaware of the hopeless situation, I went ahead with this simple formula and found a fractal. The fractal I found rates a six, which is a little above average on my 0 to 10 fractal rating scale. I named the picture "Star-Struck Midget" when I noticed the gold star. It's a rather striking image of the obligatory midget surrounded by a golden star on a sky-blue background. The scene may be viewed by running the parameter file or by downloading the image from Usenet at: The image should also be available on Paul Lee's Web site at: If the picture is not yet on the web site, be patient. Paul is busy and sometimes falls a few days behind. The fractal weather was like summer today, with hot sun and a temperature of 84F (29C), which was actually a bit too warm for the fractal cats. To experience a night's rest, I must now close down the fractal shoppe for another day. Until next time, take care, and get in the fractal spirit. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Star-Struck_Midget { ; time=0:08:21.42 SF5 on a P200 ; Version 2000 Patchlevel 8 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1 center-mag=+0.00027125681534432/-2.81244121931896100\ /1.875122e+007/1/172.5 params=1/-1/-1/1/0/10 float=y maxiter=6000 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=134 symmetry=none periodicity=10 colors=000505lxwkwwjuvhrugqtfntdlrckqcho<2>_bmZ_lYZl\ WWkVUjUThTQhTNgRMfQJdPHdNGcMCbLAaJ8aI5_H3ZH1ZJ8cUYu<\ 2>W_vW_wYaw<5>_aw_aw_bwabw<6>cbwccwccwdcwdcwdcwfcwfc\ wfcwfcwdauc_tcZrbWqbVnaUm_Rl_QkZPhZNgYLfYJdWIbVGaVE_\ UCZUBWT8VR7UR5TQ3QQ1PP0NP0MN3LM5JM8ILCHLGGJIEJLCIPBI\ RAHU8HW7G_5Gb4Ed3Eg1Ck0Cm0Bo04u0Br0Hq1No5TnAZmCclHjk\ LnjPuhTzdYzgVxhUwkRulQtmProMqqLnrJmuHlvGjwEhzBgzAdz7\ fz8gz8hx8jw8ku8kt8lq8mo8nm8ol8ojA<2>tdAubAuaAvZAwYAx\ VAzUAzTAURV0Qn0Rl3Rj7RgARdETbHT_JTYNTVQUTUUQWUNZUMY_\ JWgHWmGVuCUzAUz8PzELwIHrNCnREqUGrW<3>IwfIxhJzkJzmMzk\ NzhQzf<2>VzZWzWZzU_zRazQ_zZ<2>_zu_zzZzu<3>ZzWZzQZzJZ\ zCZz5az5cz5rzaqzYqzVqzRozP<2>nzEnzBmz5nz8ozAozBqzCqz\ GrzHrzItzJtzLuzNuzPvzQ<2>xzVxzWzzYzzZzz_zzbzzczzdzzf\ zzhzzgbzc<2>fzkgzmjzo<2>mzwozznzz } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: (fractint) Re: FOTD, 09-03-00 (Star_Struck Midget [6]) (c) Date: 09 Mar 2000 01:09:58 -0600 Jim Muth wrote: > > The image should also be available on Paul Lee's Web site at: > > If the picture is not yet on the web site, be patient. Paul is > busy and sometimes falls a few days behind. > Sorry about some recent delays, but had to make a couple of trips to Minnesota to setup a new LAN at one of our offices and then tie it to our WAN with the new T1 connection. Had problems configuring the CSU/DSU and Router, and setting up the print servers so the UNIX system and NT Server both recognized them on the Network. I should be keeping close to home base for awhile, so no more delays in the foreseeable future. P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Wegner Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint 20.0.8 Date: 09 Mar 2000 22:49:14 -0600 James asked: > When I try to get fractint Developer's Version 20.0.8 I end up with 20.0.6 > Developer's Version. Is this the same thing each as the other. I'm getting > from ftp://ftp.fractint.org . As far as I know I'm doing it right. Please > respond ASAP. I just downloaded ftp://ftp.fractint.org/fradev.zip and it does indeed contain 20.0.8. Thgis is *not* the same thing as 20.0.6. The version is reported on the opening screen. Are you using a web browser to do the FTP transfer? This is a shot in the dark, but maybe you have fradev.zip in your browser cache and you are not really re-uploading it. If so, try the reload button. Jonathan has suggested that I should encode the version in the file name - then there would be no ambiguity. I'll do that. The only other thing I can think of is maybe you aren't running the fractint.exe that you think you are. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" Subject: (fractint) What's our population? Date: 10 Mar 2000 09:41:32 GET Hi, I've been meaning to ask for a long time now, what's the number of subscribers to this conference? Is it relatively static at the moment, or are the numbers changing in either direction? Tony Hanmer Tbilisi, Georgia ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" Subject: (fractint) What's our population? Date: 10 Mar 2000 09:42:46 GET Hi, I've been meaning to ask for a long time now, what's the number of subscribers to this conference? Is it relatively static at the moment, or are the numbers changing in either direction? Tony Hanmer Tbilisi, Georgia ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 10-03-00 (Crop-Top Midget [6]) (c) Date: 10 Mar 2000 02:14:11 -0500 (EST) FOTD -- March 10, 2000 (Rating 6) Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries: The familiar Mandelbrot set is simply connected. That is, all its features are connected to the main body by an infinitesi- mally thin filament. To put it more poetically, all the baby Mandelbrot ponds are connected to the main bay by a thin stream of water. Though the shoreline of the M-set is infinite, it is a single shoreline. But not all fractals are connected. The curious fractal created by the formula Z^(-0.5)-Z^5+C is not connected. In this fractal the main bay is surrounded by countless cut-off midget lakes. Today's fractal illustrates one of these cut-off lakes. I could have named the picture "Cut-Off Midget" but I decided on "Crop-Top Midget", a name that raises a few more eyebrows. It's a pleasant turquoise and lilac midget, easy on the eyes -- a picture that could give a soothing touch to a dentist's waiting room. I find it far more relaxing to observe the image on the screen however. Since the parameter file requires over 1/2 hour on a modest Pentium, I advise picking up the JPEG'd image file from the Usenet binary newsgroup: The image is also to be found on Paul Lee's Web site at: The fractal weather today was partly cloudy and continued unusually warm, with a small shower in early afternoon. The temperature of 78F (25.5C) was just right for the fractal cats, who spent several hours on the porch once the rain stopped. Unfortunately, it's now time for me to stop writing, and to shut down the fractal factory for another day. The next time will be in under 24 hours. Until then, take care, and live and breathe fractals. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Crop-Top_Midget { ; time=0:36:11.27 ; Version 2000 Patchlevel 8 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1 center-mag=-0.81266861428258830/+0.00003374593235210\ /2.432391e+012/1.0001/167.658/-0.024 params=-1/5/1/-0.5/0/0 float=y maxiter=6000 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=767 symmetry=none periodicity=10 colors=0003I6CE2DKADOJDRRDW_D_gKchQejWgkakk<2>srmlpg\ emaZkYRjRKgLDeH6cA0a6D0TEAaEOkE`sEasQm5<3>Pl9PlAOkA<\ 3>OkGNjHNjHNjINjJNjKLhLLhN<3>KgQKgRKgT<2>KgVJfWJfY<3\ >Ie`IeaIec<4>HdgHdhHdh<3>GcmAKwHIxLHxREyYCzaAzg8zl7z\ WIeHTK1a0EG0Q00`ANkQhuezqYzoPwkIrh9oe1jc0fe6hfHkgTmj\ cpkorlyspyNa0A`89<2>`f6`q6Zr8YsAVuDUuGRvIQwKPwNWgZaT\ hgDum0zfUqgWlgZhh_eha`jdYjeUZaYOZ`DVd2Tfw2Ds3Lp3Tl5_\ h5fe6ma6u_6zZ8xY9uWAqVDmUEjTGfTHd<3>jCuoAys9zw9zTOZ0\ `1EhGUqUjwghocfcYj_PmYIqUAsR3fERU2mLVeEwZGueGrlGpsGo\ zKmuOloepjWkd_jZcjUahV<9>QefPegOdh<3>JcmIcoHapEasGaq\ EarQ0aP0c<3>O5dO6eO6e<2>N9hNAjLCkLCl<2>KGpKHqKIqKJsJ\ Ju<3>IOyIPzIQz<5>GYzGZzG_zG`zEazEczEdz2ez3fz3gz3hz3g\ z5fz<10>6ez } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" Subject: (fractint) Tracing L-systems Date: 10 Mar 2000 21:11:05 GET Hi, Now that we have the possibility of making L-systems huge in Fractint at last, I have another question: Is there any programme which can output L-systems not as bitmaps but as vector files? After all, all they are is collections of straight lines. Vector output would make the resulting file independent of size for resolution. Tony Hanmer Tbilisi, Georgia ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Barry N Merenoff <110144.2274@compuserve.com> Subject: (fractint) Tracing L-systems Date: 10 Mar 2000 12:25:14 -0500 Actually, a vector file would be just as dependent on resolution as a bitmap file. Neither is a true fractal above a critical magnificatio= n. The only advantage to a vector file would be that at a smaller magnification it wouldn't be aliased. But you could get the same effect by shrinking a bitmap in a resampling program. Sincerely, Collin Merenoff Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: [(fractint) What's our population?] Date: 10 Mar 2000 19:59:24 CST I just joined yesterday, and majordomo listed 304 subscribers to this lis= t after my induction. Eric >>"Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" wrote: Hi, I've been meaning to ask for a long time now, what's the number of = subscribers to this conference? Is it relatively static at the moment, o= r = are the numbers changing in either direction? Tony Hanmer Tbilisi, Georgia >> ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 11-03-00 (One Haggard Midget [4]) (c) Date: 11 Mar 2000 01:47:43 -0500 (EST) FOTD -- March 11, 2000 (Rating 4) Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries: Another day, another midget. I'm really becoming obsessed with these midgets. Maybe I'll declare April 'no-midget' month and 'no-MandelbrotMix4' month. Then I'll be able to spend the month searching new pastures for new types of fractals. I really need to be writing some more test formulas. The M-Mix4 formula makes things too easy. Before I found this formula, I wrote at least one or two test formulas every day. The formula behind today's image is Z^(-1.5)-3(sqrt(Z))+C. The parent fractal is a delicate lacework of scattered bits and pieces, with but few solid areas. Today's midget appears deep in a spiral in one of these solid areas. The rough appearance belies the delicateness of its parent fractal. I named the picture "One Haggard Midget" as a description more than anything else. At 13 minutes on a Pentium, the parameter file is a bit too slow for comfort. To ease impatience, the image has been posted to the Usenet binary newsgroup: ant to Paul Lee's web site at: The fractal weather today was once again quite mild. The hazy sun and temperature of 68F (20C) were perfect for the fractal cats, who spent most of the afternoon stretched in their padded chairs on the porch. The fractal philosophy is still brewing. So be patient fans of wisdom -- the enlightenment will soon be posted. Until next time, which is 24 hours from now, take care, and isn't it frustrating to know you're right yet be unable to convince anyone else of the fact? Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ One_Haggard_Midget { ; time=0:12:54.30 SF5 on a P200 ; Version 2000 Patchlevel 8 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1 center-mag=+2.90578209960671000/-3.70762978356767100\ /3.643372e+009/1/-30.001 params=1/-1.5/-3/0.5/0/0 float=y maxiter=1600 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=214 symmetry=none periodicity=10 colors=000t`Uu_TvPTwZTxOTyXUxOTxYTxOTxYTxPTwZTwPTwZT\ wQSw_SvQSv_SvQSv`SvRSu`SuRSuaRuSRuaRtSRtbRtTRtbRtTRs\ bRsUQscQsUQscQrVQrdQrVQrdQtYSteRrVQpbPnSOk_NiPMgXMeM\ LcUK`JJZRIXGHVOGTDGRMJQBMOFO<3>JBZIA`GKcF8`ENmC6fBRr\ A4k8Uw72p5Uz62s6Uz62r6Uz62q6Uz62p6Uy62o6Ux62n6Uw62m6\ Uv62l6Ru62k6Nt62i62s62h62r62g62q62f62p62e62o62d62n62\ c62m62b71m62b63k63a64e64`65d<33>3OO3PO3QN<2>3RM3SL2Q\ J<36>5ih5ih5ji<3>5ll4mp<19>CkKDkJDkH<3>EkB<13>jrFlsF\ nsF<3>wuG<3>uuFtuFtuFuvKvvK<3>wwK } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tony \(Anthony\) Hanmer" Subject: Re: (fractint) Tracing L-systems Date: 11 Mar 2000 21:23:36 GET >Actually, a vector file would be just as dependent on resolution >as a bitmap file. Neither is a true fractal above a critical magnification. >The only advantage to a vector file would be that at a smaller >magnification it wouldn't be aliased. But you could get the same >effect by shrinking a bitmap in a resampling program. ...But surely, with L-systems, which are actually made of lines (and not pixels), a vector output would capture the thing literally perfectly, whereas a bitmap must approximate...? Tony Hanmer ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Harry Bissell Subject: Re: (fractint) Tracing L-systems Date: 11 Mar 2000 12:39:02 -0500 By the time it gets to the screen.... everything is a bitmap.... or even a printer... Only a vector plotter would give "true" results... and even that (driven by stepper motors) is really a "bitmap" H^) harry (one who lurks most times...) "Tony (Anthony) Hanmer" wrote: > >Actually, a vector file would be just as dependent on resolution > >as a bitmap file. Neither is a true fractal above a critical magnification. > >The only advantage to a vector file would be that at a smaller > >magnification it wouldn't be aliased. But you could get the same > >effect by shrinking a bitmap in a resampling program. > > ...But surely, with L-systems, which are actually made of lines (and not > pixels), a vector output would capture the thing literally perfectly, > whereas a bitmap must approximate...? > > Tony Hanmer > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@fractint.org > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Wegner Subject: Re: (fractint) What's our population? Date: 11 Mar 2000 14:56:41 -0600 Tony asked: > Hi, > I've been meaning to ask for a long time now, what's the number of > subscribers to this conference? Is it relatively static at the moment, or > are the numbers changing in either direction? We are currently at 304. It has been higher, but I would say it is static. There are constantly people leaving and joining the list. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Noring Subject: (fractint) Reintroduction and Apology Date: 11 Mar 2000 19:30:11 -0800 (PST) Hello, It's been quite a while since I have been in touch with the fractal art community, having essentially dropped out about a year and a half ago to pursue an e-book business. I will continue to work my e-book business heavily, until either success or failure, and thus will not be actively involved in any way with fractal art until then. However, I will devote a little time here and there to at least monitor what's happening, maybe even play with Fractint a few hours a month. I'll follow up this e-mail with a couple more messages asking some questions so I can come up to speed on where things currently stand. Now for my apology. Back in November my friend Lee Skinner got the following e-mail. I've removed the sender's name but it does show my sudden disappearance may have caused difficulties with many of you, for reasons I'll explain below. I do humbly apologize to everybody involved. I did not handle this properly. >Lee, are you still in touch with Jon Noring? I was pretty angry, because >about 2 years ago he asked several of us for our "50 best Fractint pars", >claiming he was going to represent us. People like myself were too new >and innocent to question this. After he got pars from folks like myself >and Linda Allison, he completely disappeared and ceased answering emails. >I always assumed that he'd stolen the pars to print for his own profit. I >could still kick myself, because I gave him the pars to many of my >all-time best fractals, fractals that are being published now. Here's my e-mail reply directly to this person back in late November: **************************************************************************** I do humbly apologize for my "disappearance," and for not informing those I *non-exclusively* represented that, in essence, I put the project on long- term hold, and likely won't resurrect it. It is a good idea, but it requires someone with both the time and resources to promote it. I found I lacked both. And the last year I have been extremely busy. In the middle of last year I found a partner to build a business around my first "love", e-books (electronic books). Since then, it's been a very intense time, developing a business plan, hustling trying to secure venture capital funding. We are very close to securing about $XX million in final funding (of course, one never knows for sure until the money is in the bank, as we have twice learned this year already -- the *hard* way.) Suffice to say I've been very busy. I don't even have Fractint installed on my computer -- I don't even know what version Fractint is at now. Is the new Fractint 32-bit? I was surprised to hear Lee tell me tonight on the phone about a new fractal engine called "UltraFractal", which maybe I'll check on sometime in 2002 when I have a breather. :^) Regarding your pars, I have not made any prints of them -- I don't even recall making any high-res images from them. I don't even know where your pars are. I do believe they are on a burned CD-ROM, encrypted in a ZIP file and only I know the password, if I can remember it. If I die, nobody will even be able to read them without breaking the encryption. I have kept to my contractual obligation to you and to everybody else not to reveal them to anyone, nor to make prints or transparencies of them for sale without your contractual agreement as to the terms. Again, I apologize to everybody involved for my disappearance. It was very tacky, I know. And do feel free to post this reply to Fractal-Art if it still is active. I haven't been subscribed to that mailing list for well over a year, even though I was the one who created it. Your pars (and those of everyone else) are safe, and they will never be revealed, nor ever used at any time in the future without your express permission. I do appreciate your sharing them with me -- I recall you had many wonderful fractal images, and I hope that the last year you have been successful in selling prints of them, and making lots of people happy (and make a few dollars as well.) I have thought that if my e-book business is successful (yes, it is a long- shot, to be realistic), that I'd have the resources to build a fractal art museum/gallery displaying only the nicest fractal images printed at museum quality at very high resolution (probably Ilfochrome prints). I'd be happy to have some of your images represented in the gallery. But it will be a while before this dream will become a reality, if ever. So maybe you will hear from me in 2-3 years. :^) **************************************************************************** Anyway, hopefully this will further explain my absence, and my apologies to everybody I worked with "behind-the-scenes" a couple years ago. If I do pick up the fractal art business again, I will run it differently and will put my own resources behind it to make it really work. I have several new ideas (some of them obtained from working to build a large business) which will directly transfer to fractal art promotion and sales, to the direct benefit of fractal artists everywhere. I look forward to seeing everybody around in Fractal-Land. :^) Jon Noring Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Noring Subject: (fractint) A question on UltraFractal and Fractint Date: 11 Mar 2000 19:54:53 -0800 (PST) Hello, In trying to update myself of what's happening in the fractal art world, I've noticed that last year a new fractal generator was introduced: UltraFractal. I downloaded it today to try it out, and have been working on comparing it with Fractint (version 19.6 -- haven't tried 20.0 yet). I like its interface a lot, and I see many ideas in it that could be incorporated into the 32-bit GUI-based Fractint I've been hoping to see for quite a while (the old Windows 3.1 port of Fractint is NOT what I had in mind.) (Now there's rumbling of 64-bit operating systems. :^) ) First question is the obvious one -- how do they each compare feature-wise; what are their relative strengths and weaknesses? My second question revolves around difficulties I am having in getting UltraFractal to read many of the Fractint formulas I have in my collection. Simply, UltraFractal won't read them without giving an error message. And for many when UltraFractal does read them, it generates a fractal image partway and then stops. Do Fractint formulas have to be formatted in a certain way? Are there certain Fractint formula features and settings that UltraFractal won't recognize? Anyway, that's enough in this message. I have one more to follow regarding fractal art prints. Thanks. Jon Noring Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Noring Subject: (fractint) A question on museum-quality fractal art prints Date: 11 Mar 2000 20:20:30 -0800 (PST) Hello, As many of the old-timers know, 2-3 years ago I was looking into how to produce the highest quality prints from fractal images. At the time, I settled upon making 8x10 color transparencies using a Kodak LVT, which directly prints onto the film at 2032 dpi (res80). Then the transparency can be used in a commercial photo-enlarger to make reversal prints, either Ilfochrome (the old Cibachrome which has breathtaking color), or other reversal prints such as Fuji's which is very good. The image size I generated for the Kodak LVT was 18432x13824, which is an 18x18 array of 1024x768 images (using Fractint's "Divide and Conquer"). Several in the fractal community have had me help them make Kodak LVT transparencies of fractal images and hopefully they will comment. The advantage of this compared to ink on paper processes (such as the "Giclee'"...Iris inkjet) was greater color gamut, better approximating RGB color space (inks just cannot reproduce saturated colors very well), higher resolution, longer display life measured in decades (Ilfochrome, for example, is highly resistant to fading), and fairly low cost when a large number are made at one time (in an enlarger, once setup, one can run through a lot of prints in a short amount of time, while on an Iris, each one takes some time which does not allow substantial discounts for large quantities.) Of course, the Iris and related inkjets have their advantages, most notably the ability to render the image on a plethora of different papers. O.k., that was two years ago and I have not been keeping abreast of recent developments. I do know that direct to photographic print paper processes have recently become more commonplace, including the Durst Lambda and the LightJet. In these devices, the digital image is transferred directly to a photograph print using RGB lasers, bypassing any photographic process. In terms of quality (color accuracy) these will have the 8x10 transparency --> print from enlargement beat by a mile since the process can be precisely calibrated to a particular photographic paper for all colors, so it is possible to render RGB color gamut much more closely than with photographic enlargement using a fixed white light source. Anyway, with that introduction, I'd like to hear what the current state-of- the-art is. Are most here who produce high quality prints using Iris and similar commercial inkjets? Have they finally developed very bright and saturated inks that also have a long life and high resistance to fading? Is anybody here using a Durst Lambda and/or LightJet to make prints of fractal images? I look forward to any comments on this topic. Thanks. Jon Noring Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) FOTD, 12-03-00 (The Duke of Earl [5]) (c) Date: 12 Mar 2000 00:48:11 -0500 (EST) FOTD -- March 12, 2000 (Rating 5) Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries: I have named today's fractal picture "The Duke of Earl", though I've totally forgotten the train of thought that led me to this name. The image has little in common with that old Doo-Wop song of the same name, so I doubt if the name came from there. The expression calculated by the MandelbrotMix4 formula to create today's image is (Z^1.25)-(Z^(-1.75))+(1/C). The parent fractal of today's midget consists of a distorted M-set with a smaller M-set NNE of it. Today's scene is located on the east side of a larger midget, which is located out near the tip of the negative tail of this smaller M-set. Now that we know just where we are, it's time to reveal the good news that the parameter file takes only 2-1/2 minutes to complete. The download of the image file might be even faster -- you'll never know unless you try. That image file can be found posted to the Usenet binary group: and to Paul's Web site at: The fractal weather today was unsettled, with heavy clouds and occasional thunder-showers. The temperature of 50F (10C) was too damp and chilly for the cats, who spent the day curled in their beds. My philosophical energies today were once again exhausted replying to letters on the philofractal list. But I'll try again tomorrow to get some philosophy composed in time for the FOTD. Until next time, take care, and are fractals really for real? Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ The_Duke_of_Earl { ; time=0:02:36:34 SF5 on a P200 ; Version 2000 Patchlevel 8 reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip center-mag=+0.12123691840599490/-0.14894804299248570\ /2.826772e+013/0.9997/-100.002/0.017 params=1/1.25/-1/-1.75/-2/0 float=y maxiter=1200 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=90 symmetry=none periodicity=10 colors=000D73<2>442Gkj<3>6IH3A9OS2LP2IO2FL2CH2<3>472\ 252kOQ<3>ODEIABC88655GsH<8>7Q86M75J6<3>162sp6<8>WV4T\ T4RQ3<3>GH3`R5`R5`Q4<3>VQKTQOSQS<2>OQb<3>GlRErODwM<4\ >BsOBrOBrO<2>ApPAoPAmP<3>9gQ<3>FdNHZN<3>N_LO_KQ`K<3>\ V`IXUNYTRZMW_H_`Cc<3>ZVZYZYYcXYhV<3>WwRWzQ`wV<3>tkjy\ in7oiNxd<9>CzYBzYAzX<3>6zVIsLUqBnuh<3>byb_z`Xz_<3>Lz\ UIzSFzRDzQ<2>`z7<4>jzW<3>rzo<3>pzZozVozRozNpzKpzH<3>\ kzCjzBizAhz9<3>9z_1ze2zd<11>CzWDzVDzU<2>GzSGzSFzQ<3>\ CzMBzKBzJAzI2z49zH<5>5zA5z94z7<3>1z3wz9<13>Gz3 } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Noring Subject: (fractint) Re: [fractal-art] A question on museum-quality fractal art prints Date: 11 Mar 2000 21:54:45 -0800 (PST) Also sprach Kerry Mitchell: >The "old" ways of Ilfochrome, Iris, and Lambda are still with us, and the >photographic methods (Ilfochrome and Lambda) appear to be the more popular >for high quality prints, from what I've seen. I tend to prefer Ilfochrome >slightly over Lambda, but it's very close. I've heard that archival >giclee inks are around which will rival an Ilfochrome print for longevity, >but I haven't seen any such prints. The problem with the longer-life ink prints is that the inks typically are less saturated, so you trade off brilliance for life. This is less of an issue with photographic prints. Many fractal images are meant to be saturated and brilliant, and unless one uses fluorescent inks (which have a very short life), photographic prints are the best way to render these images. Not like viewing on an RGB monitor, but much better than inks can do. >Janet Preslar and I have written a tutorial on printing fractals, which >can be found here: > >http://www.parkenet.org/jp/print.html > >It discusses both the high end, museum quality prints, and the lower end, >too. I visited it and it is full of good information. However, I am surprised you left out the LightJet, the direct competitor to the Durst Lambda. The LightJet, if it is still in business, as of two years ago had slightly higher resolution than the Durst Lambda and was specially calibrated to run with Ilfochrome! Ilfochrome normally has contrast problems, but in the LightJet the contrast issues are rendered moot -- and the colors can be very accurate to what one sees on a monitor. There are a few labs that use the LightJet with Ilfochrome, and I hope soon to submit a test or two. (I think it is possible, too, that some places may be using Ilfochrome on the Durst Lambda). Other important issues are mounting and lamination, which I won't get into here. Suffice to say, though, that properly mounting a glossy Ilfochrome on 1/8" aluminum plate is spectacular -- orange peel is almost non-existant, and aluminum makes a better substrate than gatorfoam and similar mounting materials, no matter how carefully the mounting is done. Btw, I've made many 8x10 Kodak LVT positive transparencies, and this is an excellent way to go. Replicolor Labs in Salt Lake City only charges $75 for an 8x10" positive transparency onto Fuji Provia film (and $55.00 for a 4x5). Just send them an 18432x13824 image for the 8x10, specify res80 (2032 dpi) and they'll make the trans. Their LVT can also do res120 (3048 dpi) but cannot do so at 8x10, but can on a 4x5 (I've worked out the best image resolution for 4x5's at res120 but don't have the numbers handy at the moment). They've tried to render an 8x10 at res120 (using an image Rollo Silver graciously let me use for this experiment) but the Kodak LVT "file system" had trouble with that large of an image. Well, enough techno-jargon on the Kodak LVT. :^) Jon Noring Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Wray Subject: (fractint) Fractals in *parallel* ?!?!? Date: 12 Mar 2000 19:14:29 +1300 Hi there, I have been toying for some time with the idea of using a cluster of Linux machines to generate fractals in parallel. My algorithm is quite simple and very efficient on heterogenous parallel architectures such as the Beowulf model. Code reuse would seem to be appropriate since fractint has some extremely good fractal generating algorithms. However, I'm not a hugely experienced programmer in this sort of thing! This is just a hobbyist/curiosity motivated project. I now have about 8 machines on which I'm starting to install linux and network for this project. They will be accessible from the internet. It would probably be quite simple to form a collaborative group to develop this system. Any offers of help/collaboration will be considered!---------- The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better." I can't understand why it won't work on my Linux computer. (If you want my PGP public key send me an email with "get public key" as the subject.) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: (fractint) Tracing L-systems Date: 12 Mar 2000 20:49:38 +1300 At 21:23 11/03/2000 GET, you wrote: >>Actually, a vector file would be just as dependent on resolution >>as a bitmap file. Neither is a true fractal above a critical magnification. >>The only advantage to a vector file would be that at a smaller >>magnification it wouldn't be aliased. But you could get the same >>effect by shrinking a bitmap in a resampling program. > >...But surely, with L-systems, which are actually made of lines (and not >pixels), a vector output would capture the thing literally perfectly, >whereas a bitmap must approximate...? > Up to the accuracy of the vector arithmetic used - since computers don't tend to measure lengths with infinite precision, one ends up with rounding errors creeping in at very high detail. A philosophical issue is that any L-system that is actually _drawn_ is done so only approximately (except in special and boring circumstances). One would need to run the L-system for an infinite number of iterations (at infinite precision) for literal perfection. Morgan L. Owens "take five paces west and dig under the tree you collide with." Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Wray Subject: RE: (fractint) Xfractint 3.11 binary available Date: 13 Mar 2000 11:53:28 +1300 Hi there! Having toyed with xfractint and fractint, I think one of the most useful features that could be put into the unix version would be a much higher level of control over the disk video mode (so that it doesn't *need* X) and the ability to run it as a background task (ie without the cute console output) Also, being able to send signals to the process and get it to save its current work to an image file would be great! I'm not much of a programmer or else I'd have had a go at these mods myself... :( I have a 486DX4-100 running linux. Its not running X windows and I happily leave it for days generating fractals... As it is, if I telnet into it and run xfractint with command line parameters I have to leave that telnet session open otherwise the xfractint process dies... On Tuesday, 22 February 2000 19:27, Scott D. Boyd [SMTP:sdboyd@fastlane.net] wrote: > To all Linux/fractint fans out there: > > A binary package of Xfractint 3.11, based on fractint 20.0.7 is now avaible at: > http://www.fastlane.net/~sdboyd/xfractint.html . > (The link to download the .tar.gz file is available on that page.) > > This binary was compiled and is running great on Linux-Mandrake 6.1, kernel > 2.2.13, xfree86 3.3.5 and KDE 1.1.2. (That setup is running on an AMD K6-2 - > 450Mhz box.) It should run OK on most any 2.2.x kernel, and GNOME or KDE 1.1.x. > Will it run on older kernels and older distributions? Install it and find out, > let me know... > > Scott D. Boyd > > > -- > email: sdboyd@fastlane.net > http://www.fastlane.net/~sdboyd/ > Introducing -- Windows 2000 !! > (Don't try this at home... or at work, either.) > > > ------- End of forwarded message ------- > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@swbell.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ---------- The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better." I can't understand why it won't work on my Linux computer. (If you want my PGP public key send me an email with "get public key" as the subject.) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Guy Marson Subject: (fractint) minilake.bat, a little animation.. Date: 13 Mar 2000 02:35:43 +0100 Hi fractinters.. here is a batch (with .frm and 2 .par files) for a little animation, dedicated to Sylvie Gallet and all the other enthusiasts writing prg's for fractint.. You must use Fractint ver.: 20.0.8 to run this .bat! Separate the different sections with an editor. Copy all the sections (of this file) as separate files into your Fractint-DIR .. Run the "minilake.bat" .. Create the animation with DTA.EXE (ver.2.2) Enjoy it! -> rename the different sections as indicated.. -> there must be a "minilake.bat" a "middle.par" a "startend.par" -> last but not least a "lake-is.frm" PS: if somebody is interested in a larger .BAT, please let me know.. Cheers, Guy Marson **************************************************************************** ******************************** This is the batch-file. Rename it as "minilake.bat" Note: every line in the .bat must start with: fractint!! **************************************************************************** ******************************** fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=-0.04000/0.00000/3.450/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33064/0.00700/2.00000/0.02000/-46.00000/5.00000 fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=-0.03500/0.00000/3.394/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33083/0.00581/2.00000/0.03000/-45.25000/5.00000 fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=-0.03000/0.00000/3.338/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33103/0.00463/2.00000/0.04000/-44.50000/5.00000 fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=-0.02500/0.00000/3.281/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33122/0.00344/2.00000/0.05000/-43.75000/5.00000 fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=-0.02000/0.00000/3.225/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33142/0.00225/2.00000/0.06000/-43.00000/5.00000 fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=-0.01500/0.00000/3.169/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33161/0.00106/2.00000/0.07000/-42.25000/5.00000 fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=-0.01000/0.00000/3.113/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33181/-0.00012/2.00000/0.08000/-41.50000/5.00000 fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=-0.00500/0.00000/3.056/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33200/-0.00131/2.00000/0.09000/-40.75000/5.00000 REM this is the start of the middle-section fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.00000/0.00000/3.000/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33220/-0.00250/2.00000/0.10000/-40.00000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.00500/0.00000/2.944/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33239/-0.00369/2.00000/0.11000/-39.25000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.01000/0.00000/2.888/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33259/-0.00487/2.00000/0.12000/-38.50000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.01500/0.00000/2.831/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33278/-0.00606/2.00000/0.13000/-37.75000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.02000/0.00000/2.775/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33298/-0.00725/2.00000/0.14000/-37.00000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.02500/0.00000/2.719/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33317/-0.00844/2.00000/0.15000/-36.25000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.03000/0.00000/2.663/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33337/-0.00962/2.00000/0.16000/-35.50000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.03500/0.00000/2.606/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33356/-0.01081/2.00000/0.17000/-34.75000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.04000/0.00000/2.550/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33376/-0.01200/2.00000/0.18000/-34.00000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.04500/0.00000/2.494/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33395/-0.01319/2.00000/0.19000/-33.25000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.05000/0.00000/2.438/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33415/-0.01437/2.00000/0.20000/-32.50000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.05500/0.00000/2.381/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33434/-0.01556/2.00000/0.21000/-31.75000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.06000/0.00000/2.325/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33454/-0.01675/2.00000/0.22000/-31.00000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.06500/0.00000/2.269/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33473/-0.01794/2.00000/0.23000/-30.25000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.07000/0.00000/2.213/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33493/-0.01912/2.00000/0.24000/-29.50000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.07500/0.00000/2.156/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33512/-0.02031/2.00000/0.25000/-28.75000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.08000/0.00000/2.100/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33532/-0.02150/2.00000/0.26000/-28.00000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.08500/0.00000/2.044/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33551/-0.02269/2.00000/0.27000/-27.25000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.09000/0.00000/1.988/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33571/-0.02387/2.00000/0.28000/-26.50000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.09500/0.00000/1.931/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33590/-0.02506/2.00000/0.29000/-25.75000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.10000/0.00000/1.875/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33610/-0.02625/2.00000/0.30000/-25.00000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.10500/0.00000/1.819/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33629/-0.02744/2.00000/0.31000/-24.25000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.11000/0.00000/1.763/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33649/-0.02862/2.00000/0.32000/-23.50000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.11500/0.00000/1.706/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33668/-0.02981/2.00000/0.33000/-22.75000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.12000/0.00000/1.650/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33688/-0.03100/2.00000/0.34000/-22.00000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.12500/0.00000/1.594/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33707/-0.03219/2.00000/0.35000/-21.25000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.13000/0.00000/1.538/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33727/-0.03337/2.00000/0.36000/-20.50000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.13500/0.00000/1.481/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33746/-0.03456/2.00000/0.37000/-19.75000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.14000/0.00000/1.425/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33766/-0.03575/2.00000/0.38000/-19.00000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.14500/0.00000/1.369/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33785/-0.03694/2.00000/0.39000/-18.25000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.15000/0.00000/1.313/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33805/-0.03812/2.00000/0.40000/-17.50000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.15500/0.00000/1.256/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33824/-0.03931/2.00000/0.41000/-16.75000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.16000/0.00000/1.200/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33844/-0.04050/2.00000/0.42000/-16.00000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.16500/0.00000/1.144/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33863/-0.04169/2.00000/0.43000/-15.25000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.17000/0.00000/1.088/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33883/-0.04287/2.00000/0.44000/-14.50000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.17500/0.00000/1.031/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33902/-0.04406/2.00000/0.45000/-13.75000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.18000/0.00000/0.975/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33922/-0.04525/2.00000/0.46000/-13.00000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.18500/0.00000/0.919/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33941/-0.04644/2.00000/0.47000/-12.25000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.19000/0.00000/0.863/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33961/-0.04762/2.00000/0.48000/-11.50000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.19500/0.00000/0.806/1.00/-90.0 params=0.33980/-0.04881/2.00000/0.49000/-10.75000/5.00000 fractint @middle.PAR center-mag=0.20000/0.00000/0.750/1.00/-90.0 params=0.34000/-0.05000/2.00000/0.50000/-10.00000/5.00000 REM this is the start of the END-section fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.20500/0.00000/0.694/1.00/-90.0 params=0.34019/-0.05119/2.00000/0.51000/-9.25000/5.00000 fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.21000/0.00000/0.638/1.00/-90.0 params=0.34039/-0.05237/2.00000/0.52000/-8.50000/5.00000 fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.21500/0.00000/0.581/1.00/-90.0 params=0.34058/-0.05356/2.00000/0.53000/-7.75000/5.00000 fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.22000/0.00000/0.525/1.00/-90.0 params=0.34078/-0.05475/2.00000/0.54000/-7.00000/5.00000 fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.22500/0.00000/0.469/1.00/-90.0 params=0.34097/-0.05594/2.00000/0.55000/-6.25000/5.00000 fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.23000/0.00000/0.413/1.00/-90.0 params=0.34117/-0.05712/2.00000/0.56000/-5.50000/5.00000 fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.23500/0.00000/0.356/1.00/-90.0 params=0.34136/-0.05831/2.00000/0.57000/-4.75000/5.00000 fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.24000/0.00000/0.300/1.00/-90.0 params=0.34156/-0.05950/2.00000/0.58000/-4.00000/5.00000 fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.24500/0.00000/0.244/1.00/-90.0 params=0.34175/-0.06069/2.00000/0.59000/-3.25000/5.00000 fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.25000/0.00000/0.188/1.00/-90.0 params=0.34195/-0.06187/2.00000/0.60000/-2.50000/5.00000 fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.25500/0.00000/0.131/1.00/-90.0 params=0.34214/-0.06306/2.00000/0.61000/-1.75000/5.00000 fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.26000/0.00000/0.075/1.00/-90.0 params=0.34234/-0.06425/2.00000/0.62000/-1.00000/5.00000 fractint @startend.PAR center-mag=0.26500/0.00000/0.019/1.00/-90.0 params=0.34253/-0.06544/2.00000/0.63000/-0.25000/5.00000 dta lake*.gif /ominilake REM this is the end of the batch-file ************************************************************************ this is the parameter-file for the middle-section. NO headder and else!! rename it as "middle.par". ************************************************************************ reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=lake-is1.frm formulaname=lake-gmc ismand=n function=recip/ident passes=1 center-mag=1.33218/0.000333163/0.3971542/1/-90 params=0.332288/-0.05/2/0.8/-16/5 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 invert=1/0/0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/0.75/yes/0/0 cyclerange=0/255 video=sf5 sound=no batch=yes savename=lake0000 colors=HPP<13>OWWPXXPXX<2>RZZSZZTZZTZZU__<4>W``W``Xaa<3>XaaXaaYaa<52>www\ wwwxxx<2>yyyyyyxxx<120>3CC3CC2BB<2>0AA0AA1BB<30>HOO **************************************************************************** this is the parameter-file for the start/end-sections. NO headder and else!! rename it as "startend.par". **************************************************************************** reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=lake-is1.frm formulaname=lake-gmc0 ismand=n function=recip/ident passes=1 center-mag=1.33218/0.000333163/0.3971542/1/-90 params=0.332288/-0.05/2/0.8/-16/5 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 invert=1/0/0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/0.75/yes/0/0 cyclerange=0/255 video=sf5 sound=no batch=yes savename=lake0000 colors=HPP<13>OWWPXXPXX<2>RZZSZZTZZTZZU__<4>W``W``Xaa<3>XaaXaaYaa<52>www\ wwwxxx<2>yyyyyyxxx<120>3CC3CC2BB<2>0AA0AA1BB<30>HOO ************************************************************* These are the formulas for the middle- and startend-sections. Rename it as "lake-is1.frm". ************************************************************* lake-gmc { ; Formula uses PHC to cast "soft" shadow ; October 1996 by Jan Maarten van der Valk ; 'periodicity=0' and 'passes=1' recommended x=real(scrnpix)/real(scrnmax), y=(imag(scrnmax)-imag(scrnpix))/(rea\ l(scrnmax)*0.75), z=x+flip(y) chrF1 = x<0.15372||(y<0.90475&&y>0.88525)||y>0.9505&&x>0.13422&&x<0\ .21372 chrr2 = x>0.22872&&x<0.24822&&y<0.9325||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.26875,-0.89\ 247))-0.03028)<0.00975&&y>0.89247) chra3 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.35678,-0.8995))-0.02325)<0.00975&&x<0.35678|\ |(abs(cabs(z+(-0.37178,-0.8995))-0.02325)<0.00975&&x>0.37178)&&y>0.\ 8995||((abs(cabs(z+(-0.35678,-0.853))-0.02325)<0.00975&&x<0.35678)|\ |(abs(cabs(z+(-0.37178,-0.853))-0.02325)<0.00975&&x>0.37178))||(x>0\ .35678&&x<0.37178&&(y<0.8395||(y>0.913&&y<0.9325)||(y>0.8665&&y<0.8\ 86)))||(x>0.38528&&x<0.40478&&y<0.8995) xc=1*x chrc4 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.47603,-0.87625))-0.0465)<0.00975&&(x<0.47603\ ||y>xc+0.40022||y<-xc+1.35228) xt=1*x chrt5 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.58598,-0.86003))-0.03028)<0.00975&&y<0.86003\ ||(x>0.54595&&x<0.56545&&y>0.86003)||(x>0.53081&&x<0.59573&&y>0.913\ &&y<0.9325) chri6 = x>0.64101&&x<0.66051&&(y<0.931||y>0.9505) chrn7 = x>0.67551&&x<0.69501&&y<0.9325||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.71554,-0.89\ 247))-0.03028)<0.00975&&y>0.89247)||(x>0.73607&&x<0.75557&&y<0.8924\ 7) chrt8 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.82575,-0.86003))-0.03028)<0.00975&&y<0.86003\ ||(x>0.78572&&x<0.80522&&y>0.86003)||(x>0.77057&&x<0.8355&&y>0.913&\ &y<0.9325) test1 = chrF1||chrr2||chra3||chrc4||chrt5||chri6||chrn7||chrt8&&y>0\ .82&&y<0.97 chrT9 = y>0.3085&&x>0.03158&&x<0.07058||(x>0.04783&&x<0.05433) chrh10 = x>0.07708&&x<0.08358||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.09394,-0.27438))-0.0\ 1361)<0.00325&&y>0.27438)||(x>0.1043&&x<0.1108&&y<0.27438) chre11 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.14167,-0.27438))-0.02112)<0.00325&&(x<0.141\ 67||y>0.27329||y<0.27004)||(y>0.27329&&y<0.27979&&x>0.12055&&x<0.16\ 28) xCN=2.5*x chrN13 = x>0.20505&&x<0.21155||(x>0.23105&&x<0.23805)||(y>-xCN+0.82\ 762&&y<-xCN+0.84512) chre14 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.26892,-0.27438))-0.02112)<0.00325&&(x<0.268\ 92||y>0.27329||y<0.27004)||(y>0.27329&&y<0.27979&&x>0.2478&&x<0.290\ 05) xv=3*x chrv15 = y>-xv+1.19814&&y<-xv+1.2187||yxv-0.7187&&y<\ 0.29875 chre16 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.37002,-0.27438))-0.02112)<0.00325&&(x<0.370\ 02||y>0.27329||y<0.27004)||(y>0.27329&&y<0.27979&&x>0.3489&&x<0.391\ 15) chrr17 = x>0.4009&&x<0.4074&&y<0.29875||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.41776,-0.28\ 189))-0.01361)<0.00325&&y>0.28189) chrE19 = x<0.48012||y<0.2565||(y<0.28575&&y>0.27925)||y>0.3085&&x>0\ .47362&&x<0.50612 chrn20 = x>0.51262&&x<0.51912&&y<0.29875||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.52948,-0.\ 28189))-0.01361)<0.00325&&y>0.28189)||(x>0.53984&&x<0.54634&&y<0.28\ 189) chrd21 = x>0.5894&&x<0.5959||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.57721,-0.27438))-0.021\ 12)<0.00325&&x<0.5894) chri22 = x>0.6024&&x<0.6089&&(y<0.302||y>0.3085) chrn23 = x>0.6154&&x<0.6219&&y<0.29875||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.63226,-0.28\ 189))-0.01361)<0.00325&&y>0.28189)||(x>0.64262&&x<0.64912&&y<0.2818\ 9) chrg24 = x>0.69218&&x<0.69868&&y<0.29875||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.67999,-0.\ 27438))-0.02112)<0.00325&&x<0.69218)&&y>0.23822||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.67\ 715,-0.23822))-0.01828)<0.00325&&y<=0.23822) chrS26 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.75555,-0.29713))-0.01462)<0.00325&&(x<=0.75\ 555||y>0.29713)||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.75555,-0.26787))-0.01462)<0.00325&\ &(x>0.75555||y<0.26787)) chrt27 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.80359,-0.26686))-0.01361)<0.00325&&y<0.2668\ 6||(x>0.78673&&x<0.79323&&y>0.26686)||(x>0.77993&&x<0.80684&&y>0.29\ 225&&y<0.29875) chro28 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.85133,-0.27438))-0.02112)<0.00325 chrr29 = x>0.8822&&x<0.8887&&y<0.29875||(abs(cabs(z+(-0.89906,-0.28\ 189))-0.01361)<0.00325&&y>0.28189) xy=2.5*x chry30 = yxy-2.12231||(y>-xy+2.60481&&y<-xy+2.62231)\ &&y>xy-2.12231&&y<0.29875&&y>0.2175 test2 = chrT9||chrh10||chre11||chrN13||chre14||chrv15||chre16||chrr\ 17||chrE19||chrn20||chrd21||chri22||chrn23||chrS26||chrt27||chro28|\ |chrr29&&y>0.25||chrg24||chry30&&y<0.315 test=test1||test2 test0=test0&&whitesq test0=((test0||test)==0) f1=fn1(real(p3)*fn2(imag(p1)*pixel)) f2=1/(imag(p2)*pixel) pixel=(test==0)*f2+test*f1 ; Import of formula 'Mandel_lake' from file LAKE-SGB.FRM ; p1: Julia seed ; real part of p2: bailout value ; imag part of p2: 0 = lake transform disabled ; any value between 0 and 100: water level in % of ; the screen height (0 = bottom, 100 = top) ; real part of waves: amplitude of the wave (try 0.2) ; imag part of waves: frequency (try 300) ; This formula uses the new predefined variables: ; center = (x , y) ; magxmag = (mag, xmagfactor) ; rotskew = (rot, skew) bailout = real(p2) ; Lake transformation ; ------------------- waves = 0.2,200 if (imag(p3) > 0 && imag(p3) <= 100) level = imag(p3) / 100 ; water level ampl = real(waves) ; amplitude of the wave freq = imag(waves) ; frequency angle = real(rotskew * pi / 180) exp_irot = exp(-flip(angle)) h = 1 / real(magxmag) w = h / 0.75 * imag(magxmag) tanskew = tan(imag(rotskew * pi / 180)) u = 2 * w * exp_irot v = 2 * h * (tanskew + flip(1)) * exp_irot z3rd = center + (-w-h*tanskew - flip(h)) * exp_irot z = pixel - z3rd b = imag(conj(u)*z) / imag(conj(u)*v) if (b <= level) dy = level - b z = z + 2*dy * (1+ampl*sin(freq*dy^0.2)) * v endif z = z + z3rd else z = pixel endif if (ismand) c = z else c = p1 endif : z = z*z + c |z| <= bailout } lake-gmc0 { ; Formula uses PHC to cast "soft" shadow ; October 1996 by Jan Maarten van der Valk ; 'periodicity=0' and 'passes=1' recommended x=real(scrnpix)/real(scrnmax), y=(imag(scrnmax)-imag(scrnpix))/(rea\ l(scrnmax)*0.75), z=x+flip(y) chrDT1 = y<1.5&&x>0.5&&x<0.5 test1 = chrDT1&&y>1.5&&y<1.5 chrDT2 = y<1.5065&&x>0.49675&&x<0.50325 test2 = chrDT2&&y>1.5&&y<1.565 test=test1||test2 test0=test0&&whitesq test0=((test0||test)==0) f1=fn1(real(p3)*fn2(imag(p1)*pixel)) f2=1/(imag(p2)*pixel) pixel=(test==0)*f2+test*f1 ; Import of formula 'Mandel_lake' from file LAKE-SGB.FRM ; p1: Julia seed ; real part of p2: bailout value ; imag part of p2: 0 = lake transform disabled ; any value between 0 and 100: water level in % of ; the screen height (0 = bottom, 100 = top) ; real part of waves: amplitude of the wave (try 0.2) ; imag part of waves: frequency (try 300) ; This formula uses the new predefined variables: ; center = (x , y) ; magxmag = (mag, xmagfactor) ; rotskew = (rot, skew) bailout = real(p2) ; Lake transformation ; ------------------- waves = 0.2,200 if (imag(p3) > 0 && imag(p3) <= 100) level = imag(p3) / 100 ; water level ampl = real(waves) ; amplitude of the wave freq = imag(waves) ; frequency angle = real(rotskew * pi / 180) exp_irot = exp(-flip(angle)) h = 1 / real(magxmag) w = h / 0.75 * imag(magxmag) tanskew = tan(imag(rotskew * pi / 180)) u = 2 * w * exp_irot v = 2 * h * (tanskew + flip(1)) * exp_irot z3rd = center + (-w-h*tanskew - flip(h)) * exp_irot z = pixel - z3rd b = imag(conj(u)*z) / imag(conj(u)*v) if (b <= level) dy = level - b z = z + 2*dy * (1+ampl*sin(freq*dy^0.2)) * v endif z = z + z3rd else z = pixel endif if (ismand) c = z else c = p1 endif : z = z*z + c |z| <= bailout } ****************************************************************EOF*** Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Wegner Subject: (fractint) 20.0.9 available Date: 12 Mar 2000 21:39:53 -0600 Fractint 20.0.9 is now available. The web site www.fractint.org seems to be down, so I posted this on my own WWW site. This is not much of a site :-) You have to paste the exact URL into your browser to get the file. If these same files are available via anonymous FTP I haven't figured out how. The DOS fractint executable is: http://home.swbell.net/twegner/fradev.zip and the source diff file is: http://home.swbell.net/twegner/2000p09.zip I'll update fractint.org as soon as it is up. The what's new for this patch is: "Fixed a bug that occurred when maxhistory=0 was used. Fixed a bug that occurred when ismand was used in a formula and ctrl was pressed. Updated Jonathan's email address." This is not a real important patch unless you are either interested in those particular bug fixes ot like to help us by testing the latest version. However, here is something that might be of interest to real hard core fractint fans. For quite some time I have been maintaining a version of fractint with the integer math removed. The idea was to use this as the basis for the future, since it is unlikely integer math will survive. The following is the 20.0.9 version of the float-only version: http://home.swbell.net/twegner/fradevfo.zip (The "fo" means "float only"). I'll post the source for this soon. It would probably make sense to make an xfractint version based on these sources since Xfractint does not support integer math anyway. I would be interested in hearing of anything that does not work in the float only version (that's not related to integer math of course). Beware - this version looks a LOT like the regular version. The only real advantage of the float-only version for users is a somewhat smaller memory footprint (try with debug=10000 on the command line and compare.) Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ruth Antwine Subject: Re: (fractint) 20.0.9 available, Question on Win95 Date: 12 Mar 2000 23:41:02 -0500 Small question. Do you know if/when an updated version for win95/98 may became available? If so, what sort of things will be updated? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Coppin" Subject: (fractint) What's in a name? Date: 13 Mar 2000 10:28:28 GMT Short daft question: If you remove the integer math from FractInt, shouldn't it then be called FractReal? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tonton Th Subject: Re: (fractint) What's in a name? Date: 13 Mar 2000 11:32:32 +0100 Andrew Coppin wrote: > > If you remove the integer math from FractInt, shouldn't it then be called > FractReal? > no, IMHO, the "int" will be for "international", so if you drop integers, no need to change the name Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Noring Subject: (fractint) Speed and precision in UF compared to Fractint Date: 13 Mar 2000 07:04:31 -0800 (PST) Hello, This is my second post to come up to speed with UltraFractal. I noticed while playing around with UF on some Fractint pars that UF is somewhat slower (appr. 50%) than Fractint. This surprised me, since I assumed 32-bit would run a little faster than 16-bit on the newer Pentiums, which are optimized for 32-bit operation. I guess the Windows 95/98 GUI overhead slows things down, or that UF has some other things that slow it down vis-a-vis Fractint. (Note that I specified floating-point in my Fractint pars so this difference in speed is not due to comparing floating- point with integer calcuations. Of course, I could still be comparing apples and oranges in other ways, so those here who are expert on this topic feel free to chime in and clarify matters.) I also want to ask about the numerical precision (number of significant digits) of UF compared to Fractint and how that affects things like zoom. Fractint, for example, has a maximum zoom limit due to numerical precision. Naively assuming that 32-bit operation should double the number of significant digits for "single precision", I would gather UF shines here. Comments on these points? Do note that I am not knocking UF as a fractal generator by claiming that calculation speed is the only thing important to me. There are many good things about UF, including its color mapping/gradient system. Now if UF had a "Divide and Conquer" utility