From: Ken Childress Subject: Re: (fractint) A pragmatic view of copyright Date: 31 Dec 2001 23:42:17 -0800 At 10:24 PM 12/31/00, you wrote: >Dear Multiple, > The real issue that Bob found fault with was that Mr. Miller had >taken his fractals out of the hobby and put them to a purpose that no >longer inspired mathematical creativity. He felt that, by using his >fractals in a non-mathematical way, Mr. Miller had trivialized the work he >had done in obtaining beauty from the formulas. > What you have to understand is that being able to express yourself >rationally despite anger is a rare gift; one that Bob doesn't have. He >probably didn't even realize that copyright law wasn't what he was really >upset about. I thought I had read some stupid posts in this thread before this one. This one makes all the others look quite intellectual in comparison. Good grief. Ken... Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tony (Anthony) Hanmer" Subject: (fractint) L-system Competition...? Date: 01 Jan 2001 13:40:11 +0500 ... So once I got to thinking more about L-systems as a fractal competition category, I came up with several sub-categories and a new proposal. What about an entirely separate annual L-system competition? Categories could include mono/colour, 1/2/multi-string, Dragon Curve/Twindragon variations, tiles, spacefilling curves, fonts, etc. (I still think that IFS types could have their own category in the main Fractal Art Competition. Not sure if there are any other types which could warrant individual attention.) Is there any interest in this? Tony Hanmer _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lee Skinner Subject: (fractint) A smoothly colored PTC fractint image Date: 01 Jan 2001 07:41:19 -0500 Hi Ron, >> SummerGarden { ; Copyright Ron Barnett Dec 2000 t=3D 0:02:04.20= << Very nice! Electric violets? Happy New Year! Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonathan Osuch" Subject: (fractint) Fractint 20.1 patch 6 Date: 01 Jan 2001 08:07:45 -0600 The version 20.1 patch 6 diff and executable are now available at www.fractint.org. This patch fixes the writing of key assignments to fractint.cfg. Jonathan Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DeBow Freed Subject: To all readers/discussants[Fwd: (fractint) A pragmatic view of Date: 01 Jan 2001 10:46:17 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BFAC62E015C3EAE82458423A Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fellow Fractaliers,

1) After my latest attack of on-list rudeness to Bob Margolis, Administrator Tim Wegner sent a face-savingly private note re the drawbacks of such "heated" exchange, its off-topic nature, and simply asked that we "take it outside", which we did.
Tim then posted an instructive anecdote about his own bittersweet experience with the great American "justice" system in a similar fact situation.

I promptly received a long and thoughtful communication from Bob containing not a single mention of my inappropriate on-list comments of the day before.

So the characterizations in Para 2 of "BN Merenoff" (Collin?)'s 12:24am, 1/1/01 post are incorrect as well as unnecessarily ad hominem (and I speak as an expert in the latter).

2) I applaud Tony Hanmer's efforts to get more attention paid to L-Systems online. Their increasing applicability as a modeling tool in a broad range of areas, although largely unforeseen to Prusinkiewicz and Lindenmayer (The Algorithmic Beauty of Plants, SpringerVerlag, 1990, ISBN 0-387-97297-8, and other publications) nevertheless make them excellent candidates for a Competition or (even better?) a List of their own.

DeBow Freed
  --------------BFAC62E015C3EAE82458423A Return-Path: Received: from mx1.airmail.net from [209.196.77.98] by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.25) with esmtp for sender: id ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 00:27:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from lists.xmission.com ([198.60.22.7]) by mx1.airmail.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14CyRD-000IAG-00; Mon, 01 Jan 2001 00:27:19 -0600 Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14CyQk-0006pN-00 for fractint-gooutt@lists.xmission.com; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 23:26:50 -0700 Message-ID: <200101010124_MC2-C032-1386@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: fractint@lists.xmission.com X-Airmail-Delivered: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 00:27:19 -0600 (CST) X-Airmail-Spooled: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 00:27:18 -0600 (CST) X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Dear Multiple, The real issue that Bob found fault with was that Mr. Miller had taken his fractals out of the hobby and put them to a purpose that no longer inspired mathematical creativity. He felt that, by using his fractals in a non-mathematical way, Mr. Miller had trivialized the work h= e had done in obtaining beauty from the formulas. What you have to understand is that being able to express yoursel= f rationally despite anger is a rare gift; one that Bob doesn't have. He probably didn't even realize that copyright law wasn't what he was really= upset about. Sincerely, Collin Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" --------------BFAC62E015C3EAE82458423A Return-Path: Received: from mx4.airmail.net from [209.196.77.101] by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.25) with esmtp for sender: id ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 01:43:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from lists.xmission.com ([198.60.22.7]) by mx4.airmail.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14CzdO-000Mb9-00; Mon, 01 Jan 2001 01:43:58 -0600 Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14Czcv-0007Yj-00 for fractint-gooutt@lists.xmission.com; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 00:43:29 -0700 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20001231234106.00da8100@shell14.ba.best.com> X-Sender: icent@shell14.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 In-Reply-To: <200101010124_MC2-C032-1386@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: fractint@lists.xmission.com X-Airmail-Delivered: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 01:43:58 -0600 (CST) X-Airmail-Spooled: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 01:43:58 -0600 (CST) X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 At 10:24 PM 12/31/00, you wrote: >Dear Multiple, > The real issue that Bob found fault with was that Mr. Miller had >taken his fractals out of the hobby and put them to a purpose that no >longer inspired mathematical creativity. He felt that, by using his >fractals in a non-mathematical way, Mr. Miller had trivialized the work he >had done in obtaining beauty from the formulas. > What you have to understand is that being able to express yourself >rationally despite anger is a rare gift; one that Bob doesn't have. He >probably didn't even realize that copyright law wasn't what he was really >upset about. I thought I had read some stupid posts in this thread before this one. This one makes all the others look quite intellectual in comparison. Good grief. Ken... Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" --------------BFAC62E015C3EAE82458423A-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Wegner Subject: Re: (fractint) Color Cycling Date: 01 Jan 2001 12:54:10 -0600 Randy wrote: > I have a Micron Millenium PII 400, and every time I try to color cycle it > goes at warp speed. Can anyone help? It sounds like a bug in the video board. Fractint uses standard VESA mechanisms for detecting when the video refresh happens. Occasionally a board doesn't have the correct VESA implementation. I'm sorry I'm vague, Bert Tyler was the expert at this. I suggest looking at Matrox's web site for BIOS updates. When these problems were found in the past with ATI, the fix involved a bios-fixing TSR porogram prtovided by the vendor. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "knife31a@micron.net" Subject: Re: (fractint) Color Cycling Date: 01 Jan 2001 14:08:47 -0700 --=====================_5388400==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Thanks for the ideas Tried different parameters went from 1 to 55. None worked. It would not recognize cyclelimit=1 but would recognize cyclelimit=2 thru 55. When I select a cyclelimit under 25 the display went slow for about a second then cranked up to warp 1. If I selected anything above 25 it just went warp 10. I even tried some different adapter settings (My adapter is a Starfighter AGP 0322 Standard, Hardware Version 033 Driver dated 1-26-99), no luck. I looked up cyclelimit in Fractal Creations 2 but only found cyclerange (page 181) this must be a new command I did see it in the F1 help file ver 20.0.14. Just got off the phone with Micron not much help they don't support BIOS upgrades but did descover I have a PhoenixBios 4.0 Release 6, Part # MBD001099-XX so downloaded 'SE44bx04.exe' but I think I might be a little gunshy before I do the deed. Any other ideas before I leap off the BIOS cliff? At, 04:41 PM 1/1/01 +1300, you wrote: >At 17:51 31/12/2000 -0700, Randy Hoffmaster wrote: >>I have a Micron Millenium PII 400, and every time I try to color cycle it >>goes at warp speed. Can anyone help? > >There are two or three ways you can alter the speed of colour cycling. --=====================_5388400==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Thanks for the ideas

Tried different parameters went from 1 to 55. None worked. It would not recognize cyclelimit=1 but would recognize cyclelimit=2 thru 55. When I select a cyclelimit under 25 the display went slow for about a second then cranked up to warp 1. If I selected anything above 25 it just went warp 10. I even tried some different adapter settings (My adapter is a Starfighter AGP 0322 Standard, Hardware Version 033 Driver dated 1-26-99), no luck. I looked up cyclelimit in Fractal Creations 2 but only found cyclerange (page 181) this must be a new command I did see it in the F1 help file ver 20.0.14.  Just got off the phone with Micron not much help they don't support BIOS upgrades but did descover I have a PhoenixBios 4.0 Release 6, Part # MBD001099-XX so downloaded 'SE44bx04.exe' but I think I might be a little gunshy before I do the deed. Any other ideas before I leap off the BIOS cliff?


At,  04:41 PM 1/1/01 +1300, you wrote:

At 17:51 31/12/2000 -0700, Randy Hoffmaster wrote:
I have a Micron Millenium PII 400, and every time I try to color cycle it goes at warp speed. Can anyone help?

There are two or three ways you can alter the speed of colour cycling.
--=====================_5388400==_.ALT-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Wegner Subject: Re: (fractint) Color Cycling Date: 01 Jan 2001 17:41:33 -0600 > Just got off the phone with Micron not much help they don't > support BIOS upgrades but did descover I have a PhoenixBios 4.0 Release 6, > Part # MBD001099-XX so downloaded 'SE44bx04.exe' but I think I might be a > little gunshy before I do the deed. Any other ideas before I leap off the > BIOS cliff? The Phoenix BIOS won't help. It's the *video* bios that might be the issue. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: (fractint) L-system Competition...? Date: 02 Jan 2001 14:19:22 +1300 At 13:40 01/01/2001 +0500, Tony Hanmer wrote: >... So once I got to thinking more about L-systems as a fractal >competition category, I came up with several sub-categories and a new proposal. > >What about an entirely separate annual L-system competition? Categories >could include mono/colour, 1/2/multi-string, Dragon Curve/Twindragon >variations, tiles, spacefilling curves, fonts, etc. Two- and three-dimensional renderings? Renderings with something other than line segments? Technically, the L-system consists of the axiom and production rules; what the resulting strings are used for is open slather. L-system generated music, anyone? Morgan L. Owens "Though having seen your work, you'd romp home in half the categories." Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fernando Bresslau" Subject: Re: (fractint) L-system Competition...? Date: 01 Jan 2001 23:36:25 -0200 Hey, I never worked with L-systems much and am curious about your results with it. Would you be so kind and post 2-3 parameter sets of what you think are your nicest images? Who else mentioned self-touching fractals? got me interested too... Thanks, Fernando Bresslau http://www.fractal.art.br/ bresslau@fractal.art.br _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) L-system Competition...? Date: 02 Jan 2001 00:04:50 -0600 Tony (Anthony) Hanmer wrote: > > (I still think that IFS types could have their own > category in the main Fractal Art Competition.....) > Since Damien initially announced the "Fractal-Art 2000 Contest" on Mon, 26 Jun 2000 at 00:32:49, we have yet to see a conclusion. From the announcement and discussions up through the actual submissions, things were the usual slow and late progress, but now it has been over six months. Adding new categories might make the next Contest take years to accomplish. P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tony (Anthony) Hanmer" Subject: Re: (fractint) L-system Competition...? Date: 02 Jan 2001 11:03:17 +0500 >>Categories >>could include mono/colour, 1/2/multi-string, Dragon Curve/Twindragon >>variations, tiles, spacefilling curves, fonts, etc. > >Two- and three-dimensional renderings? Renderings with something other than >line segments? > >Technically, the L-system consists of the axiom and production rules; what >the resulting strings are used for is open slather. L-system generated >music, anyone? > I've become aware of the limitations of L-systems with only 1 string after axiom etc; e.g. I can produce many Twindragon variations with only 1 string, but so far not one Dragon Curve variation. (Thanks for the compliment, though, Morgan. I experiment a lot but generally it's shots in the dark and serendipitous discoveries rather than deep understanding that gets me where I'm going.) Tony _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: (fractint) Fractal-Art 2000 Contest Update Date: 02 Jan 2001 01:16:01 -0500 Good evening folks. It is my duty to inform you that the end of the world has come. At least, I think it has... because SURELY the end of the world would come before the contest entries are posted! Yet the entries are now available for your viewing pleasure. I need to extend copious thanks to Janet Preslar and Kerry Mitchell, who have spent many hours with me this weekend getting this gargantuan feat accomplished. I apologize to all contest participants for the extreme tardiness of the contest site's release. I grossly underestimated my available time and the amount of time it would take simply to post all the images. 453 images and animations are in this year's contest, 170M of data. The delay had virtually nothing to do with scripting, and everything to do with time allocation on my part. Anyway, the entries are up! Try not to all jam the server at once. :) Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info: \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ Please do not post my e-mail address on a web site or in a newsgroup. Thank you. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tony (Anthony) Hanmer" Subject: Re: (fractint) L-system Competition...? Date: 02 Jan 2001 11:10:24 +0500 Not my BEST work, as I'm in another country from my archive at the moment (and the best work is waiting for now), but hopefully interesting nonetheless: a few pieces I've found in the last few days. Tony Hanmer p.s. Cut the following, paste it into a text file and name it adh.l and then it'll be ready to access in Fractint. adh5012 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 Angle 4 Axiom f f=h h=+f+hf } adh5012a { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 Angle 4 Axiom [f]+[f]+[f]+[f] f=h h=+f+hf } adh5012b { ; Anthony Hanmer 2000 Angle 4 ; Bilaterally symmetrical for odd orders Axiom f++f f=h h=+f+hf } adh5118 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2001 Angle 8 ; Twindragon Axiom f f=f+@q2f@iq2+++f } adh5125 { ; Anthony Hanmer 2001 Angle 4 ; Axiom f f=f+@q2f@iq2++@iq2f@q2 } _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lee Skinner Subject: (fractint) Fractal-Art 2000 Contest Update Date: 02 Jan 2001 07:05:02 -0500 >> Yet the entries are now available for your viewing pleasure. << GREAT!!! Will the CDs be mailed soon? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kenneth Childress Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal-Art 2000 Contest Update Date: 02 Jan 2001 07:55:07 -0800 (PST) Hi Lee, > >> Yet the entries are now available for your viewing pleasure. << > > GREAT!!! Will the CDs be mailed soon? Certainly by the end of the month. :-) As soon as I can download the necessary file(s) from Damien. I just saw the announcement, but I haven't spoken to him about the CD image yet. I'll be able to get the preorders out within a day or two of downloading the files. I'll post a message when they are "in the mail". Ken... Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD, 03-01-01 (Parabolic Lace [7]) Date: 02 Jan 2001 19:12:31 EST Classic FOTD -- January 03, 2001 (Rating 7) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: I'm back! Though with all the copyright blather on the lists, I probably wasn't even missed. And perhaps it would be more accurate to say I'm half-back, since I'm still waiting for the new software CD to arrive in the snail-mail from Mindspring- Earthlink, so I can once again start sending through my Mindspring ISP. Until the software does arrive, and I get it up and running, I will not be able to post the FOTD images to ABPF. Until then (hopefully only a day or two from now) I will avoid unusually slow-to-render parameter files. Today's 14-minute image is borderline, but worth the effort. I return with a midget from the MandelbrotMix4 formula, a rather spectacular midget at that. When I noticed the parabolic strings of bays, I decided to name the image "Parabolas". Then I noticed the overall lacy effect and considered naming it "Lace". Unable to decide, I finally named the image "Parabolic Lace", a name that accurately describes the scene. The expression -1.1(Z)-0.011(Z^(-100))+(1/C), a whimsical series of 1's and 0's, lies behind the tan and green scene, which features a tiny midget at its center. The midget is rotated about 60 degrees CW from its normal orientation, though the midget is so small that the rotation is barely noticeable. Due to computer problems, I am unable to post the GIF image to Usenet, but as soon as he can get it rendered, it will be available on Paul Lee's web site at: The fractal weather has been cold but uneventful since I last reported. Today for example was partly cloudy with a temperature of 30F (-1C), which kept the fractal cats indoors chasing the elusive shafts of sunlight. I've got a good bit of philosophy backed up and ready to write. Today was too busy to give the wisdom the attention it demands, but the after-holiday rush will be gone in a few days, so keep tuned. Until tomorrow, when I'll return with another wonderful fractal, take care, and without fractals life would be only half as enjoyable. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com temporarily START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Parabolic_Lace { ; time=0:14:03.39 -- SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+0.43305938747111610/+0.02692426213655286\ /3.213848e+009/1/-32.499 params=100/1/1/-100/-1.011/0 float=y maxiter=1200 inside=0 logmap=197 periodicity=9 colors=000_MN<3>ZLKZLJZKJZKIZKHYJH<29>qbHqcHrdH<2>tf\ HugGtfH<5>gZHeXHcWH<2>YSHWRHVSG<12>NaDMbCLbC<3>JeB<6\ >EkXEk_Dlb<3>BomApm<3>7sp7tq6tr5us5vt4xu4wv<4>9xyAxy\ Bxz<10>LyzMyzNyz<2>QzzQzzSzw<2>VzmczhrzcwzbrzccpYTfS\ <3>J44<3>BUR9`W7fa5mg<40>HeLHdKHdK<3>IdI<28>copdpqep\ s<2>gqvgrwgqxgqy<22>gjz } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Guy Marson Subject: (fractint) A joke! Date: 03 Jan 2001 10:19:31 +0100 Hi fractinters.. don't forget to hit the grey + on your keyboard.. cheers, Guy ************ nocopyr1 { ; Version 2001 Patchlevel 6 reset=1920 type=formula formulafile=cpyrght.frm formulaname=nocopy1 function=exp/flip/recip/ident passes=1 center-mag=-41.85566391148364000/+41.89621330375795000/76662.71/0.5152/-\ 97.536/-40.468 params=0.74/0.12/-24/-0.555/-30/1.3025 float=y maxiter=200 inside=zmag outside=atan invert=1/0/0 periodicity=0 cyclerange=0/255 colors=I`I<37>343232222212101000100000<3>900B00D00<4>M00N00P00<2>V00W10W\ 20<3>Z71_81_A2<2>bD3cF3dG4dI4eJ4<5>jQ6kS6kT7lV7mW7<3>p`9qa9rcA<21>RD4QC4\ PA4<3>J62I52G31F21D00<2>C0BB0EA0H90L80P<3>50b40f30j<3>00x<24>00C00A008<2\ >002000100<18>b0Xd0Zf0`<3>n0fp0gr0i<3>z0p<9>g0`e0Zc0Y<3>W0R000<19>CPCDRD\ ESE<3>GXGGYGHZH<2>JcJ<2>IaI } frm:nocopy1 { ; using modified gallet-3-02.frm from Sylvie Gallet. ; Try fn3=recip, fn4=ident.. ; If (B=A*C) then the text is invisible, else=visible! ; A = real(P2), B = real(P3), C = imag(P3) ; 'periodicity=0' and 'passes=1' recommended x=real(scrnpix)/real(scrnmax), y=(imag(scrnmax)-imag(scrnpix))/(rea\ l(scrnmax)*0.75), z=x+flip(y) xCN=2.5*x chrN1 = x>0.03&&x<0.042||(x>0.062&&x<0.07492)||(y>-xCN+1.065&&y<-xC\ N+1.09731) chro2 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.11292,-0.94))-0.024)<0.006 test1 = chrN1||chro2&&y>0.91&&y<0.99 xc=1*x chrCR3 = abs(cabs(z+(-0.835,-0.075))-0.0308)<0.0042||(abs(cabs(z+(-\ 0.835,-0.075))-0.0133)<0.0042&&(x<0.835||y>xc-0.76||y<-xc+0.91)) test2 = chrCR3&&y>0.04&&y<0.11 test=test1||test2 test0=test0&&whitesq test0=((test0||test)==0) f1=fn3(imag(p3)*fn4(real(p2)*pixel)) f2=1/(real(p3)*pixel) pixel=(test==0)*f1+test*f2 ; Import of formula 'Gallet-3-02' from file LES_PARS.FRM z = pixel : x = real(z) , y = imag(z) x1 = x - p1*fn1(y+p2*fn2(y)) y1 = y - p1*fn1(x+p2*fn2(x)) z = x1+flip(y1) |z| <= 4 ;SOURCE: gallet-3.frm } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 04-01-01 (Impossible Fractal [6]) Date: 04 Jan 2001 00:41:22 EST Classic FOTD -- January 04, 2001 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Today was one of frustration here at Fractal Central. The frustration began when I had no success getting the old 1996 Mindspring Windows 3.1 software to work on the new machine, which runs Win-98. The Earthlink tech support was of minimal help, informing me that they no longer support that software. But they did tell me that the current software should have arrived by this time. This was of no help either, since the CD has not in fact arrived. They concluded by telling me to reorder the software if it does not arrive in a few days, an action I had already considered. The frustration continued when I found a major bug in the latest float-only version of Fractint. I have not fully investigated the bug, but it appears that the formulaname information is not being properly written to the GIF image files, causing the program to pick up whatever formulaname info is current in the environment. I'll have to determine the exact nature of the bug before making the official report. The frustration reached a climax when a customer reported that my service bureau had delivered a faulty negative to them, causing me to utter a few well-chosen words. Despite the frustration, I managed to find a fractal. I named the image "Impossible Fractal" because such an image would appear to be impossible. The formula that drew the image is a generalization of John Goering's, SliceJB formula, which makes use of the new 4th and 5th variable parameter entries. Since I still am not able to connect to the Mindspring news server, the GIF image has not been posted to Usenet. But it will be available at Paul Lee's web site as soon as he can render it. The web site can be accessed at the URL: The fractal weather today was sunny but cold, with a temperature of 34F (1C), which kept the cats indoors. And I guess that's it for today. Such frustration is not conducive to philosophical pondering, so there is no philosophy today. If things calm down tomorrow however, the philosophy might appear. The only way to know for sure is to check back then. Until tomorrow, take care, and what would happen if all the possible fractals suddenly ceased to exist? Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Impossible_Fractal { ; time=0:12:45.00 -- SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=julibrot.frm formulaname=SliceJB-new function=ident passes=1 center-mag=-1.82146e-017/1.47451e-017/262.7154 params=0.49/0.49/0.49/0.49/2.00297/0/-1.7434/0/0.000\ 216/0.074274 float=y maxiter=18000 inside=0 logmap=62 periodicity=10 colors=000H30<4>H30J30M30O33R6AUEHXMN\ ZXUaf_cnffvmiysmz8qz7us6ym4zf4z_7<2>yHByADw7Ew4F<2>u\ 3Ju3Ks3M<2>r3QA2QD4R<2>H8VIAXKBYMDZNE_OFaQHbRIbUJeVK\ eXMgYNgZOk_QmbRqcSreUufVvgXvjYwkZwm_ynay<3>ufzvgzwiz\ yjz<3>zozzqzzrzzszzqz<15>zXzzVzzUz<2>yQzyOzwMy<2>vIy\ vHyvFwuEwuDwuBwsAv<3>r4vr3uq2uq0uq0uo0uo0s<3>n0sk0rj\ 0qi0qg0of0ne0nc0mb0k<2>Z4jY6iX7gV7gU8fSAeQBeODcNEbME\ bKFaJHaII_HJZFKZEMYDMXBNXAOV8QU7RU6SS4SS3UU3VU3XU<3>\ 2ZU2_U2aU0aU0bV0cV0cV0eV0fV0fV0gV0iV0iV0jV0kV0kX0mX0\ nX0nX0oX0qX<2>0sX0sX0uX0vY0vY0wY0yY<3>0zY0zY0zY0zY0z\ V3zU<2>JzQOzOSzN<3>mzIrzHvzFyzIzzKzzMzzNzzOzzOzzQzzR\ zzRzzSzzUzzUzzVzzX<3>yzZyz_wz_wzawzbwzbvzcvze<2>vzfq\ zkkzqfzvazz<5>bzybzybzwbzw } frm:SliceJB-new {; by John R. H. Goering, July 1999 pix=pixel, u=real(pix), v=imag(pix), a=pi*real(p1), b=pi*imag(p1), g=pi*real(p2), d=pi*imag(p2), ca=cos(a), cb=cos(b), sb=sin(b), cg=cos(g), sg=sin(g), cd=cos(d), sd=sin(d), p=u*cg*cd-v*(ca*sb*sg*cd+ca*cb*sd), q=u*cg*sd+v*(ca*cb*cd-ca*sb*sg*sd), r=u*sg+v*ca*sb*cg, s=v*sin(a), c=p+flip(q)+(p4), z=r+flip(s)+(p5): z=z^(p3)+c |z|<=9 } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) Test -- do not read Date: 04 Jan 2001 00:49:11 -0500 (EST) This is a test; it is only a test. If it were not a test, it would be a C-FOTD. Jim M. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jean-Pierre Louvet" Subject: (fractint) Fractal art contest mirror Date: 04 Jan 2001 16:09:23 +0100 Hi all, The French mirror for the fractal art contest 2k is at http://www-hs.iuta.u-bordeaux.fr/contest2k/ Some animations using java may not work till the java.class files can be downloaded from the main site. It is only a question of 1 or 2 days. If you have any problem with this mirror, please send me a mail (don't disturb Damien Jones). Enjoy. J.P. Louvet | Phone : (33)05-56-84-58-35 IUT Universite Bordeaux 1 | 33405 Talence CEDEX France | email : louvet@hse.iuta.u-bordeaux.fr Fractales sur serveur Web Universite Bordeaux I : http://www.cribx1.u-bordeaux.fr/fractals/ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 05-01-01 (Four Flying Wings [6]) Date: 04 Jan 2001 19:14:55 EST Classic FOTD -- January 05, 2001 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Between real work, fighting with the Fractint float-only-version bug, and trying to gain access to ABPF with the Agent newsreader through Earthlink, I once again found little time for fun with fractals, much less for serious philosophizing. Maybe, when I finally regain access to ABPF, I'll philosophize about the comedy of errors that kept me from getting connected. It will seem more like a comedy at that time. I did find a fractal today that rates a 6, which equals slightly above average on my entirely subjective scale of fractal worth. I named the picture "Four Flying Wings" after the four brilliant wing-shaped yellow areas surrounding the central midget. The mathematical expression 0.06Z^(-511)+0.6Z^(-2)+(1/C) created the fractal. The MandelbrotMix4 formula iterated the above expression to produce the image. At somewhat under 9 minutes on a P200, the parameter file is rather slow. To save time, give Paul a chance to render the image, then go to his web site at: to download the image. If all goes well, I'll resume posting the FOTD images to ABPF tomorrow, but so far very little has gone well. The fractal weather today was partly sunny, with a temperature of 35F (1.5C), which allowed the fractal cats a few minutes outdoors to romp in the yard. That's it for now. Until next time, take care, and fractals are as real as you make them to be. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Four_Flying_Wings { ; time=0:08:45.75 -- SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+2.24514129586799700/+0.11861353313784640\ /7001148/1/112.499 params=0.1/-511/1/-2/-0.4/400 float=y maxiter=5000 inside=0 logmap=150 periodicity=9 colors=000O00P00P00M00K00H00G03E06B0B90E60J40M30R00X\ 00_01d03h04m06p07v07z0Bt0Ep1Hm6KiBMfGPcKUYPXVVYRaaOf\ dKkhHpkCvm9zp6zt3zx0zz0zz0<3>zzBzzEzzHzzKzzOzzPxzUxz\ Xvz_tza<2>ozkmzokzpizthzxfzzfzzipxmhtpaorUkvKfzEcz6Y\ z0Vz0Pz0Mz0J<3>z0Pz0Rz0Rz0U<2>z0Yz0_z0_<3>z0fz0hz0h<\ 3>z0oz0pz0pz3czBRzJGzR3z_0vh0tf0td0rd0rc0pc3pa6oaBo_\ GmYJmYOkXUkXXiVaiVdOUm3Rt0Pz0Oz0Ox0Mv0Mt3Kr6KrBJpEJo\ HHmMHkPGkUGiYEhaEfdCdiCcmBcpBav9_z9Yz7Xz7Xz6Vz4Uz4Rz\ 3Pz1Oz1Oz0Mx0Kv0Jv0Ht0Ht0Gr0Er0Cp0Bp1Bo39o49o69o79o9\ 7oB7oC7mE7<3>mK6mM6mO4mP4kR4kU4<3>k_3ka3kc3id4hf6fh6\ fi7dk9cm9aoBapB_rCYtEYvEXxGVzGUzHUzJRzJPzKPzKUzMVzMY\ zM_zMczOdzOhzOizO<3>_zaXzdVzhRzk<2>KzvHzzGzzCzzBzz9z\ z9zz9zz7zz<3>6zz6zz6zz4zz4zx4zx3zv3zv3zt3zt4zo6zk7zf\ 9zcBzYCzVEzPGzMHzHJzEKz9Mz6Oz1Pz0Rz0Mz0Mz0 } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) Major float-only bug alert Date: 04 Jan 2001 22:16:10 EST I have found a major bug in the most recent float-only version of Fractint. The bug appears when a type=formula image is saved as a GIF file. When this is done, the formulaname= data is either incorrectly written to the GIF file or not written at all, making it impossible to do further work with the image. The only workaround I have found is very inconvenient. The workaround is to save the parameter file of the flawed GIF image, enter the correct formulaname= data into the parameter file by hand, redraw the image from the edited parameter file, and use the redrawn image for further work. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com jimmuth@aol.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Multiple Bogeys" Subject: (fractint) Why wait for a disk? Date: 05 Jan 2001 05:53:49 -0500 Mr. Muth, why wait for a disk? Windows 98 includes all the software needed to connect to a normal ISP -- the dial-up networking thing. Any decent ISP will have on their Web site the information needed to set it up -- DNS addresses, name of news, pop, smtp servers, and such. Even my ISP has that information, and they are not a very good ISP (indeed, all damn morning their pop and web servers have been incorrectly ignoring my connections instead of responding to them). If earthlink (or was it mindspring? I forget) forces you to use special software to connect or to use some functionality (e.g. news), I respectfully suggest you find yourself another ISP, one that works in a more standard way. As for the rationale behind preferring a normal ISP to a weird one that does things in non-standard ways, your own experiences over the last few days provide all the evidence needed to support it. (This, by the way, is also one of the arguments against using CI$ or AOL -- the terrible latency between their internal networks and the net at large, which plays hell with real-time gaming such as RTS games or Quake, are another, and economics the third...) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Diana L. Dubel" Subject: (fractint) Hello from Diana Date: 05 Jan 2001 06:48:14 -0800 Hello Fractal Art enthusiasts, I just wanted to say hi. I downloaded Fractint last week, and am learning the functionality. I have a lot of it down. One area I am still working on is loading a color map for my monitor. I have an NEC MultiSync 4FG monitor, which has wonderful color, but which is an older model, and freezes up when I load regular maps into it. I don't know if I need to keep the possible colors within a certain range, or not. Any ideas? Thanks, Diana ======================================== Diana L. Dubel :-) E-mail - - - dldubel@earthlink.net Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Zorba the Hutt" Subject: (fractint) Hi-res diskvideo oddness Date: 05 Jan 2001 16:07:35 -0500 There's something odd and vaguely annoying that I've noticed with hi-res diskvideo (i.e. 2560x1920 or above - probably triggers lower than that, but I don't know for certain). All the rendering modes but single-pass are disabled, and all symmetry is disabled also. I'm currently rendering a simple Mandelbrot animation at that resolution, and I can only imagine the CPU bonuses I'd be getting with Guessing or Boundary Checking modes when the symmetry is working - as it is, I'm majorly impressed by how fast it's going anyway, I just wish it was going faster :) Is there some switch I'm missing, or is this just a symptom of ultra hi-res? Thanks, -Zorba (Note: I sent this before, but I just realized I sent it from the wrong account, i.e. the non-subscribed one, so I'm guessing it invisibly bounced - it was about a day ago. Whoops. Anyway, if they both get to the list, apologies for the spam.) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonathan Osuch" Subject: Re: (fractint) Hi-res diskvideo oddness Date: 05 Jan 2001 19:08:39 -0600 > There's something odd and vaguely annoying that I've noticed with hi-res > diskvideo (i.e. 2560x1920 or above - probably triggers lower than that, but > I don't know for certain). All the rendering modes but single-pass are > disabled, and all symmetry is disabled also. Yes, only single-pass works above resolutions with either X or Y above 2048. This is due to a buffer of that size which is used for the other rendering modes. Eventually we will get past that limitation. Don't hold your breath. We need to get to a 32-bit environment first. I don't believe that the symmetry is disabled due to high resolutions. Jonathan Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 06-01-01 (Baroque Minibrot [8]) Date: 05 Jan 2001 20:12:11 EST Classic FOTD -- January 06, 2001 (Rating 8) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: It was yet another frustrating day here at Fractal Central. I finally managed to regain access to ABPF through Mindspring- Earthlink, or whatever they now call it. But the computer that I managed to get connected is at the Fractal Central Auxiliary office, and not at Fractal Central itself. The result is that, though I will be able to once again post my FOTD discussions and GIF images to Usenet, the posting will be delayed by about 12 hours, until I arrive at Fractal Central Auxiliary. Hopefully, this unsatisfactory situation will be remedied sometime this weekend. One of these days I'll tell how something as simple as getting connected to a Usenet server became so complicated, but right now we have another fractal to discuss This afternoon, I shut off my brain and entered a few random parameters into the M-Mix4 formula. The parameters produced the mathematical expression -1*Z^(-11.1)-11*Z^(-1.11)+(1/C), which when iterated drew the parent fractal in which today's unusually striking scene is found. Since the image reminds me of the curving intricacies of baroque ornamentation, I named it "Baroque Minibrot". After studying it from both close-up and at a distance, I decided that the image rates a much-above-average 8, a rating to which very few FOTD images rise. The parameter file renders in a few minutes. Those who would rather download the GIF image from Usenet must be patient for 12 hours or so, until I get to the Fractal Central Auxiliary shop and post the image to: alt.binaries.pictures.fractals The image should be available far sooner on the W.W.Web on Paul Lee's web site at the URL: The FOTD images are also now being posted by Scott Boyd to his web site at the URL: The FOTD fame is spreading; the fortune is not. And the weather today here at Fractal Central was cloudy with snow and a temperature of 30F (-1C). About 2 inches (5cm) of snow fell during the midday period, which was enough to keep the fractal cats from even thinking of going outdoors. Well fractal fans, that's it for another day. It's time to shut down the fractal shoppe and think about tackling that stubborn computer that won't connect. I'm sure it's some setting that I have wrong, but I just can't find the wrong setting and tech support no longer supports the 5-year-old software. Why do I still want to use the old programs? I like their simplicity. Until next time, take care, and philosophically speaking, fractals may exist only because we want them to. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Baroque_Minibrot { ; time=0:10:15.92 -- SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+4.41470171704085300/+0.22703750058478620\ /177973.9/1/154.999 params=1/-11.1/11/-1.11/-2/400 float=y maxiter=1500 inside=0 logmap=165 periodicity=9 colors=000TPdTPd<13>_Wq_Wr`Xs<2>aYvbZwaaxZayXezSfzQj\ zMkzJnzFqzDpy8vyAqvBqsDoqEknFjkHfiIgfJccKjaDfZ6oX0zU\ 0yR2zODsMMmHXeIabKe`JbaI_cHYfFUjERmDOoBMrAIv8Fy7Dz6A\ z47z4Ez7JvAOqBUkEZfHcaIiXKnRNsMOyHRz8RzBSzESwHUsJUqM\ VmOViRX<2>_ZYXaZScZQf_Mi_Jj_HebF_eEXfDRiBNjAImB6r87n\ 78k4Ag3Be<2>3FV3HS3IQ3JR3KR2MO<3>2RZ2Sa2Uc<3>3Vn3Vq3\ Vs3Vv0Rz3Vy6Yq8_jDcbFfXIiOMmHOoARr2Zw0Uu0Qr0Mq6InAEm\ FAjK6gO2fU0cZ0ef0bb0a_0_Y<2>0XO0VK0UI<2>0Q80R7<2>0K6\ 0I60H60E60B60A607606603600002666BDAH<2>UNV_R_eVe<2>w\ guzjzzkyzkwzkwzkvzkvzmuzms<2>zmrznqzno<2>znnyjmsgmoe\ mjameZkaXkXSkSQkNNjIJjEHj8Ej68n4Bj4Eg4Hc4Ja4MZ3NV3QS\ 3SQ3VM3YJ3ZH6aM8bQBeUEfYHgaJjfMkjOnnRorSqvQrrOrnNrjM\ sgJscIs_HuX<3>AvI8vF6wB<2>2w00w30w40w70w80wA0wD0wE0w\ F0wI0wJ0wM0wN } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 06-01-01 (Baroque Minibrot [8]) Date: 05 Jan 2001 21:16:11 -0600 JimMuth@aol.com wrote: > > The image should be available far sooner on the W.W.Web on Paul > Lee's web site at the URL: > > > > The FOTD images are also now being posted by Scott Boyd to his > web site at the URL: > > > > The FOTD fame is spreading; the fortune is not. > Glad to see the FOTD spreading over to the adjoining county here in Texas. But I guess there must be something wrong with Scott's web site, since this is what it says: "Why am I posting the daily images on my Website, when they are already posted on Paul N. Lee's Website? The Fractal of the Day is usually not available on Paul's site until the next day, ......... So I created a Perl script to watch for the email to arrive, ........ With the whole process being automated, the FOTD image will usually be available on this Website within 30 minutes after Jim posts his daily email........" Mine already has the web page up (two hours after the FOTD email). And nothing appearing on Scott's site yet, so it must be that darned SWBell service again. Even though I had have them as one of my ISPs for a few years, they still continue to be unreliable. Sincerely, P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott D. Boyd" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 06-01-01 (Baroque Minibrot [8]) Date: 05 Jan 2001 23:24:38 -0600 On Friday 05 January 2001 21:16, Paul N. Lee wrote: > > Glad to see the FOTD spreading over to the adjoining county here in > Texas. But I guess there must be something wrong with Scott's web = site, > since this is what it says: > > "Why am I posting the daily images on my Website, when > they are already posted on Paul N. Lee's Website? The > Fractal of the Day is usually not available on Paul's > site until the next day, ......... So I created a Perl > script to watch for the email to arrive, ........ With > the whole process being automated, the FOTD image will > usually be available on this Website within 30 minutes > after Jim posts his daily email........" > > Mine already has the web page up (two hours after the FOTD email). = And > nothing appearing on Scott's site yet, so it must be that darned SW= Bell > service again. Even though I had have them as one of my ISPs for a= few > years, they still continue to be unreliable. > Well Paul, you got one up on me this time. 8-) I had remembered there= =20 being a discussion a few months ago on this mailing list about the la= g=20 time between Jim posting his FOTD to the lists, and the time you were= able=20 to post it on your Website. At that time, because of your schedule, I= =20 thought you were posting it the next day. My Perl script apparently still has a few bugs in it. When I was test= ing=20 it and saving stuff in a temp. directory, it worked OK. Tonight, I wa= s out=20 and about when Jim's FOTD email arrived, and the script didn't work= =20 correctly in actual production. (More bugs to eradicate....) For the = next=20 couple of days, it will probably be late in posting to my Website unt= il I=20 get it fixed. (Yes, I'll correct my text quoted above.) 8-) BTW, I've had a DSL connection for the past 5 months thru SWBell that= =20 stays connected 24 hrs a day. I rarely get disconnected, usually only= when=20 I disconnect for whatever reason. (Usually to make some changes to my= =20 router/firewall box. Surprisingly - it's been very reliable DSL servi= ce so=20 far! And pretty darn fast too! A lot better than "56k" dialup service= ! Regards, Scott --=20 sdboyd56@swbell.net http://home.swbell.net/sdboyd56/ Linux...=20 "Find out what you've been missing while you've been rebooting Windows NT."=20 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --- Infoworld=20 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 06-01-01 (Baroque Minibrot [8]) Date: 05 Jan 2001 23:58:09 -0600 Scott D. Boyd wrote: > > Well Paul, you got one up on me this time. Since Jim sends out his FOTD at various times, one can never really tell when my web site will have the latest page. But I usually post it as soon as I get home from work (if the email has arrived). Otherwise I stay up until around 01:30 to 02:30 Central Time waiting for it. The only time I post it the next day is if Jim is so late that his email arrived the next day also, and I then do it first thing in the morning (if it has arrived by then as well). > > My Perl script apparently still has a few bugs in it. I thought about doing the same thing, but I enjoy making the FOTD's "border color" something that blends with the picture. This would be rather difficult to do with a script. And I also like to throw in a few "links" on various keywords within Jim's text. Most times they are useful and pertinent, but sometimes they are humorous. Something else not easily done with scripting. > >(Yes, I'll correct my text quoted above.) 8-) Thank you!! :-) > > BTW, I've had a DSL connection for the past 5 months > thru SWBell that stays connected 24 hrs a day. I tried their DSL service when it first came out in the Dallas area, but soon gave up on them and went back to the Dial-Up. > > Surprisingly - it's been very reliable DSL service so > far! And pretty darn fast too! Maybe I'll give them another try again to see if they've ironed out the previous "bugs". Sincerely, P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Raghav Agnihothri" Subject: (fractint) Re: Discussion Date: 06 Jan 2001 01:46:37 -0500 Hello everyone. I've been on this list since October, and I gotta tell you its been great. I've mainly been lurking in the shadows, fiddling with fractals and admiring the FOTD. For your information, I'm a senior in high-school, and I really had no idea that fractals were this accessible. I originally began as a result of some research I was doing on computer-generated artwork for my IB Art and Design Class, but it has expanded into so much more. I'm slowly beginning to understand the math behind it, and the way this program works. The main point of this email is just to tell you guys how great I've found it here. The recent heated discussion on copyright issues was quite interesting, and as a newbie, I was interested and entertained. Thanx guys, and I look forward to more adventures in fractal land! Raghav Agnihothri Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Zorba the Hutt" Subject: Re: (fractint) Hi-res diskvideo oddness Date: 06 Jan 2001 01:43:31 -0500 That makes sense - and yeah, you're right about the symmetry. I was permuting a mandelbrot along the real axis, which, despite still being symmetrical, appears to lose fractint's symmetry flag for some reason. Ah well. Mystery solved - thanks :) -Zorba ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 8:08 PM > > There's something odd and vaguely annoying that I've noticed with hi-res > > diskvideo (i.e. 2560x1920 or above - probably triggers lower than that, > but > > I don't know for certain). All the rendering modes but single-pass are > > disabled, and all symmetry is disabled also. > > Yes, only single-pass works above resolutions with either X or Y above 2048. > This is due to a buffer of that size which is used for the other rendering > modes. Eventually we will get past that limitation. Don't hold your > breath. We need to get to a 32-bit environment first. > > I don't believe that the symmetry is disabled due to high resolutions. > > Jonathan > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Hello from Diana Date: 06 Jan 2001 01:31:09 -0600 Diana L. Dubel wrote: > > Hello Fractal Art enthusiasts, Welcome !! I see you made it to this particular fractal related Discussion List. :-) > > One area I am still working on is loading > a color map for my monitor. I have an NEC > MultiSync 4FG monitor, which has wonderful > color, but which is an older model, and > freezes up when I load regular maps into it. It more than likely has nothing to do with the monitor itself, but possibly with the video card that you have installed. Could you specify what it is, and at what "video mode" you are running with ?? Also, which version/release of FractInt are you using, and do you have a SSTOOLS.INI file set up ?? > > I don't know if I need to keep the possible > colors within a certain range, or not. Should be able to choose anything in the 256-color range. Sincerely, P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Diana L. Dubel" Subject: (fractint) Question on loading color map files Date: 06 Jan 2001 06:45:10 -0800 Paul, Yes, thanks for inviting me! Now, I would like to ask a question :-) I am having trouble loading color map files. When I do this my monitor displays graphic junk, in the colors of the map. If after loading the map file, I hit the key once, and specify F4 again, I then see the map in the right format. I have an older monitor which still has the best color I have seen on a monitor, and I don't want to get rid of it for this reason. It is NEC Multisync 4FG. Any ideas? Diana -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Paul N. Lee Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 11:31 PM Diana L. Dubel wrote: > > Hello Fractal Art enthusiasts, Welcome !! I see you made it to this particular fractal related Discussion List. :-) > > One area I am still working on is loading > a color map for my monitor. I have an NEC > MultiSync 4FG monitor, which has wonderful > color, but which is an older model, and > freezes up when I load regular maps into it. It more than likely has nothing to do with the monitor itself, but possibly with the video card that you have installed. Could you specify what it is, and at what "video mode" you are running with ?? Also, which version/release of FractInt are you using, and do you have a SSTOOLS.INI file set up ?? > > I don't know if I need to keep the possible > colors within a certain range, or not. Should be able to choose anything in the 256-color range. Sincerely, P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Multiple Bogeys" Subject: Re: (fractint) Hi-res diskvideo oddness Date: 06 Jan 2001 09:52:32 -0500 >Yes, only single-pass works above resolutions with either X or Y above >2048. For now, I recommend using the older divide-and-conquer approach (you know, the makemig/simplgif thing). Eventually, Fractint should use all the fancy speedups for any disk-video mode small enough to fit in RAM (which increases as RAM increases). For true disk video, perhaps it should just implement the divide-and-conquer approach internally? It could use the disk to create the large image buffer as now, but divide this into a rectangular grid of chunks small enough to fit in available memory and do these chunks one at a time. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Multiple Bogeys" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: C-FOTD 06-01-01 (Baroque Minibrot [8]) Date: 06 Jan 2001 10:03:26 -0500 >I thought about doing the same thing, but I enjoy making the FOTD's >"border color" something that blends with the picture. This would be >rather difficult to do with a script. > >And I also like to throw in a few "links" on various keywords within >Jim's text. Most times they are useful and pertinent, but sometimes >they are humorous. Something else not easily done with scripting. I happen to know how to automate both of those processes. (Noting that the links tend to link specific words to the same site, with definite patterns if a word is repeated.) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rupert Millard" Subject: Re: (fractint) Major float-only bug alert Date: 06 Jan 2001 17:12:08 -0000 Hi, I don't have patch 6, but I've found out that the bug is also in float-only versions 4 & 5. I find it amazing that nobody noticed it earlier! If it helps, you could instead load the fractal, press "g" and type in the correct formulaname= data and then work with it without having to load the parameter file in another program. This is actually a handy tip for everyone, if you rename a formula then you can load the file, use formulaname= to replace the formula name and overwrite the original file (nb. Use a version of Fractint without the bug in!), a redraw may be necessary however. From, Rupert ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 3:16 AM > > I have found a major bug in the most recent float-only version > of Fractint. The bug appears when a type=formula image is saved > as a GIF file. When this is done, the formulaname= data is > either incorrectly written to the GIF file or not written at > all, making it impossible to do further work with the image. > The only workaround I have found is very inconvenient. The > workaround is to save the parameter file of the flawed GIF > image, enter the correct formulaname= data into the parameter > file by hand, redraw the image from the edited parameter file, > and use the redrawn image for further work. > > > Jim Muth > jamth@mindspring.com > jimmuth@aol.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@fractint.org > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rupert Millard" Subject: Re: (fractint) Why wait for a disk? Date: 06 Jan 2001 17:12:14 -0000 Hi, Go to http://www.newsservers.net/non-members/news_servers/top-10.html and even I, using rubbish, English, free ISPs, can access newsgroups. From, Rupert ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 10:53 AM > Mr. Muth, why wait for a disk? Windows 98 includes all the software needed > to connect to a normal ISP -- the dial-up networking thing. Any decent ISP > will have on their Web site the information needed to set it up -- DNS > addresses, name of news, pop, smtp servers, and such. Even my ISP has that > information, and they are not a very good ISP (indeed, all damn morning > their pop and web servers have been incorrectly ignoring my connections > instead of responding to them). If earthlink (or was it mindspring? I > forget) forces you to use special software to connect or to use some > functionality (e.g. news), I respectfully suggest you find yourself another > ISP, one that works in a more standard way. As for the rationale behind > preferring a normal ISP to a weird one that does things in non-standard > ways, your own experiences over the last few days provide all the evidence > needed to support it. > > (This, by the way, is also one of the arguments against using CI$ or AOL -- > the terrible latency between their internal networks and the net at large, > which plays hell with real-time gaming such as RTS games or Quake, are > another, and economics the third...) > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@fractint.org > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Major float-only bug alert Date: 06 Jan 2001 13:20:35 EST >I don't have patch 6, but I've found out that the bug is also in float-only >versions 4 & 5. >I find it amazing that nobody noticed it earlier! For several months I've been getting occasional blank screens when working with old GIF files, but since these blank screens showed up while I was using other versions of Fractint, I didn't connect the problem to files created by the float-only version until a few days ago. >If it helps, you could instead load the fractal, press "g" and type in the >correct formulaname= data and then work with it without having to load the >parameter file in another program. This is far more convenient than editing and rerendering a parameter file, but if one doesn't remember which formula name to type in, the image becomes useless for further work. Jim M. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) (4 Jim Muth - Mindspring software) Date: 06 Jan 2001 14:43:59 -0500 At 12:41 AM 1/4/2001 EST, you wrote: >Today was one of frustration here at Fractal Central. The=20 >frustration began when I had no success getting the old 1996=20 >Mindspring Windows 3.1 software to work on the new machine,=20 >which runs Win-98. The Earthlink tech support was of minimal=20 >help, informing me that they no longer support that software. =20 >But they did tell me that the current software should have=20 >arrived by this time. This was of no help either, since the CD=20 >has not in fact arrived. They concluded by telling me to=20 >reorder the software if it does not arrive in a few days, an=20 >action I had already considered. Jim -=20 (snips above and below) Just noticed you were having trouble re: Mindspring software compatible w/Win 98. Try this url: http://download.mindspring.com/software/win95.html You can also find Win 98 software there. This for members only, of course, and if you haven't received their disc yet... Regards, David S. davides@pipeline.com http://www.mbfractals.com/usergal/davides.html http://home.pipeline.com/~davides ^ ^ 0=BF0 _ New Windows Message: This will end your Windows session. Do you want to play another game? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: Re: (fractint) (4 Jim Muth - Mindspring software) Date: 06 Jan 2001 14:57:38 -0500 At 02:43 PM 1/6/2001 -0500, you wrote: And, btw, when you wrote, "and trying to gain access to ABPF with the Agent newsreader " What version of Agent? David S. davides@pipeline.com http://www.mbfractals.com/usergal/davides.html http://home.pipeline.com/~davides ^ ^ 0=BF0 _ New Windows Message: This will end your Windows session. Do you want to play another game? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimMuth@aol.com Subject: Re: (fractint) (4 Jim Muth - Mindspring software) Date: 06 Jan 2001 19:30:18 EST On 01-01-06 at 14:44:12 EST David S. wrote: >Just noticed you were having trouble re: Mindspring software compatible >w/Win 98. >Try this url: >http://download.mindspring.com/software/win95.html >You can also find Win 98 software there. This for members only, of course, >and if you haven't received their disc yet... >Regards, >David S. Thanks for the URL. However . . . I just downloaded the Earthlink 4.0 software from the Earthlink site. It runs fine on my FOTD machine which has 16m memory and runs Win 95. Unfortunately, it works only until I try to connect. Then the comedy of errors continues. I get nothing but an authentication error. I am using the same user-name, user-ID, and password that works on the machine over at Fractal Central Auxiliary, which runs a lite version of the Earthlink 5.0 software. Unfortunately again for me here at Fractal Central, that software requires a minimum 32m memory, and my FOTD machine has only 16m. The goal is to connect to Earthlink from my dedicated P200 FOTD machine here at Fractal Central. The arrival of the disk is no longer important, since it contains only a full version of the 5.0 software, which requires 32m memory. Actually, I'm becoming amused at the way the computer gods seem to have conspired to prevent me from connecting to Earthlink from the FOTD machine. The most recent failed attempt is the 15th since the old 486 machine crashed. I'll keep you updated on the frustrations as they continue to happen. Jim M. P.S. AOL works perfectly on the FOTD machine. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 07-01-01 (Fractal Ant Trails [4]) Date: 07 Jan 2001 01:27:09 -0500 (EST) Classic FOTD -- January 07, 2001 (Rating 4) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: After another day of fractal frustration, trying again and failing to get my FOTD machine connected to Mindspring, I found enough time to find a fractal. The expression behind the image is Z^(1.08)-0.1Z^(-0.92)+(1/C), an expression that draws a most curiously distorted Mandeloid. Today's little midget lies in a crescent-shaped area of chaos that curves from the East Valley of the parent fractal. It is one of those midgets that appears to have few organized features around it, existing instead in a world of near total chaos. I named the image "Fractal Ant Trails" when the curving strings of vaguely ant-shaped features reminded me of trails of ants on the way to and from a source of food. I rated the image a 4, which is slightly below average on my scale. The render time of 21 minutes is the time required to render the image in video-mode SF7, the minimum resolution that does justice to the scene. For those with patience, the very large GIF file will be posted in 12 hours to the Usenet binary group: alt.binaries.pictures.fractals and in an hour or so to: and to: The fractal weather today was partly sunny with a temperature of 38F (3C), which combined with the snow on the ground to keep the cats indoors. I was far too busy and frustrated to philosophize. Perhaps tomorrow... Until then, take care. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Fractal_Ant_Trails { ; time=0:21:02.58 -- render at SF7 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=mandelbrotmix4 function=ident passes=1 center-mag=+0.01071533553487223/-0.00439118430360055\ /2770.515/1/-132.499 params=10/1.08/-1/-0.92/-0.9/0 float=y maxiter=1200 inside=0 logmap=42 periodicity=9 colors=000uxzsxzkxzozzmxzkxzivzgvzeuzduzbsz`szZqzXqz\ VozTozRmzPmzNkzLkzJizHizGgzEgzCezAez8dz8dx0bx0bv0`v0\ `v0Zu0Zu0Xs0Xs0Xs0Vq0Vq0To0To0Rm0Rm0Pm0Pk0Nk0Ni0Li0L\ g0Jg0Jg0He0He0Gd0Gd0Eb0Eb0Cb0C`0A`08Z06Z04X02X00X00V\ 00V00T00T00R00T00T00V00V02V04X06X08X0AZ0EZ0EZ0G`0G`0\ H`0Jb0Jb0Ld0Ld0Nd0Pe0Pe0Re0Rg0Tg0Vg0Vi0Xi0Xi0Zk0`k0`\ m0bm0bm0do0eo0eo0gq0gq0iq0ks0ks0ms0ou0ou0qu0qv0sv0ux\ 0ux0vx0vz0xz0zz<44>0zz0zz0zz<2>0zz0zz0xz0vz0vz0uz0uz\ 0sz0sz0qz0qz0oz0oz0mz0mz0kz0mz0kz0kz4kz6kzAkzCizGizH\ izLizNizRgzTgzXgxZgvbgvdeugeuiesmesoeqsdoudoxdmzdmzd\ kzdkzbmzbmzbmz`mz`mz`mzZmzZmzZmzXmzXmzXmzVmzVmzVmzTm\ zTmzTmzRmzRmzRmzRmzPmzPmzPmzNmzNmzNmzLmzLmzLmzJmzJmz\ JmzHm<2>zGm0xz0xz } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Curnow" Subject: (fractint) Hi from a real newbie (is that the word?) Date: 07 Jan 2001 19:19:54 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C078DE.D0CF6720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've only just joined the list and just wanted to say 'Hi' from = Portugal. I've had various versions of Fractint for years, it just gets better and = better! One thing I've noticed; Jim Muth talked about 'East Valley' in FOTD = 7/01/01. I assume he means what I would call 'Crack of the Bum', (bearing in mind = the we=20 Europeans use the word 'Bum' for the gluteus maximus!) Is there a = semi-official map of the Mandelbrot Set with proper names for the various features? I = use=20 words like 'Spike', 'Second Waist' and 'Side Flame' but they won't mean = anything to anybody else. =20 I have downloaded Thore Berntsen's Screen Saver. It makes the creation = of gif=20 images completely painless, if at the cost of leaving your machine on = overnight=20 (for a few nights). Having created a whole slew of gif images it = suddenly occurred=20 to me that if I organised a set of images that progressively zoomed out = on a particular=20 Mandelbrot image, I could get a 'fly out' and 'fly in' effect if I could = animate them. =20 =20 If there is anybody interested I've written a couple of VB programs = which do the following: =20 ParGen: A program to generate a series of par entries that 'zoom out' = of a particular=20 Mandelbrot image. =20 Zoomer: A program that displays a directory's worth of gif images in = sequence. (Rather slowly, Autodesk Animator it isn't!) =20 Unfortunately, because my ISP limits the size of any email to 3Mb, the = programs are supplied as VB5 source so you'll need access to VB to run or compile = them. =20 So here's the problem. I have no idea how many people are on the = Fractint list nor how many would like a copy of the programs. A couple of dozen I could = manage, but what if=20 there are hundreds?! How do I make the stuff available to you guys if = you ARE interested? Best regards Chris Curnow. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C078DE.D0CF6720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've only just joined the list and = just wanted=20 to say 'Hi' from Portugal.
I've had various versions of Fractint = for years,=20 it just gets better and better!
 
One thing I've noticed; Jim Muth = talked about=20 'East Valley' in FOTD 7/01/01.
I assume he means what I would call = 'Crack of=20 the Bum', (bearing in mind the we
Europeans use the word 'Bum' for the = gluteus=20 maximus!)  Is there a semi-official
map of the Mandelbrot Set with proper = names for=20 the various features?  I use
words like 'Spike', 'Second Waist' and = 'Side=20 Flame' but they won't mean anything
to anybody else.
 
I=20 have downloaded Thore Berntsen's Screen Saver.  It makes the creation of gif=20
images completely = painless, if at=20 the cost of leaving your machine on overnight
(for=20 a few nights).  Having = created a=20 whole slew of gif images it suddenly occurred
to me=20 that if I organised a set of images that progressively zoomed out on a=20 particular
Mandelbrot image, I could = get a=20 'fly out' and 'fly in' effect if I could animate them. 
 
If there is anybody interested I've = written a=20 couple of VB programs which do
the following:
 
ParGen:  A program to generate a = series of par=20 entries that 'zoom out' of a particular
Mandelbrot=20 image.
 
Zoomer:  A program = that=20 displays a directory's worth of gif images in sequence. =20 (Rather
slowly, Autodesk Animator = it=20 isn't!)
 
Unfortunately, because my = ISP=20 limits the size of any email to 3Mb, the programs are
supplied as VB5 source so = you'll=20 need access to VB to=20 run or compile them.
 
So here's the problem.  I have no idea = how many=20 people are on the Fractint list nor how
many would like a copy of the programs.  = A couple=20 of dozen I could manage, but what if
there are hundreds?!  How do I make the = stuff=20 available to you guys if you ARE interested?
 
Best=20 regards
Chris=20 Curnow.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C078DE.D0CF6720-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "wight" Subject: RE: (fractint) Hi from a real newbie (is that the word?) Date: 07 Jan 2001 14:47:44 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C078B8.CBC254C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris writes << One thing I've noticed; Jim Muth talked about 'East Valley' in FOTD 7/01/01. I assume he means what I would call 'Crack of the Bum', (bearing in mind the we Europeans use the word 'Bum' for the gluteus maximus!) Is there a semi-official map of the Mandelbrot Set with proper names for the various features? I use words like 'Spike', 'Second Waist' and 'Side Flame' but they won't mean anything to anybody else. >> Try this link Chris. There is a map showing the semi-official names for some of the areas of the Mandelbrot Set. http://www.globalserve.net/~derbyshire/manguide.html Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C078B8.CBC254C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Chris=20 writes

<< One thing I've noticed; Jim Muth = talked about=20 'East Valley' in FOTD 7/01/01.
I assume he means what I would call = 'Crack of=20 the Bum', (bearing in mind the we
Europeans use the word 'Bum' for the = gluteus=20 maximus!)  Is there a semi-official
map of the Mandelbrot Set with proper = names for=20 the various features?  I use
words like 'Spike', 'Second Waist' and = 'Side=20 Flame' but they won't mean anything
to anybody else. >>
 
Try=20 this link Chris. There is a map showing the semi-official names for = some of=20 the areas of the Mandelbrot Set.
 
http://www.= globalserve.net/~derbyshire/manguide.html 
 
 
Bill
<= /HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C078B8.CBC254C0-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ricardo M. Forno" Subject: (fractint) Question Date: 07 Jan 2001 21:47:57 -0300 This is of course off-topic, but not having other resource, I will be grateful if someone in the list can help. In such a case, please answer privately to rforno@tutopia.com. The problem is as follows: When copying an audio CD (I am using a CREATIVE CD-RW and Nero 4.5), I found that, reading back the copy as a .WAV file, and comparing the file to the .WAV from the original CD, the files differ. There is an extensive portion of the files that matches exactly, but in the copy there are about 5 ms *added* at the beggining, and about 2.5 seconds missing at the end, so that the length of the files itself also differs. Moreover, if one reads the audio data by means of 2 different drives (I happen to own also a CD reader), the files have the same length but differ at both ends as if they were shifted. This is really astonishing. Many thanks for your help. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Diana L. Dubel" Subject: RE: (fractint) Hi from a real newbie (is that the word?) Date: 07 Jan 2001 19:19:04 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C078DE.B2A7FB40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill, I am delighted to see that there is a map for the Mandelbrot fractal. It is an incredibly fascinating object! Thanks, Diana -----Original Message----- From: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of wight Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 2:48 PM To: fractint@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: (fractint) Hi from a real newbie (is that the word?) Chris writes << One thing I've noticed; Jim Muth talked about 'East Valley' in FOTD 7/01/01. I assume he means what I would call 'Crack of the Bum', (bearing in mind the we Europeans use the word 'Bum' for the gluteus maximus!) Is there a semi-official map of the Mandelbrot Set with proper names for the various features? I use words like 'Spike', 'Second Waist' and 'Side Flame' but they won't mean anything to anybody else. >> Try this link Chris. There is a map showing the semi-official names for some of the areas of the Mandelbrot Set. http://www.globalserve.net/~derbyshire/manguide.html Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C078DE.B2A7FB40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bill,
 
I am delighted = to see that=20 there is a map for the Mandelbrot fractal.  It is an incredibly = fascinating=20 object!
 
Thanks,
 
Diana
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of=20 wight
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 2:48 = PM
To:=20 fractint@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: (fractint) Hi from = a real=20 newbie (is that the word?)

Chris writes

<< One thing I've = noticed; Jim=20 Muth talked about 'East Valley' in FOTD 7/01/01.
I assume he means what I would call = 'Crack of=20 the Bum', (bearing in mind the we
Europeans use the word 'Bum' for the = gluteus=20 maximus!)  Is there a semi-official
map of the Mandelbrot Set with = proper names=20 for the various features?  I use
words like 'Spike', 'Second Waist' = and 'Side=20 Flame' but they won't mean anything
to anybody else. >>
 
Try=20 this link Chris. There is a map showing the semi-official names = for some=20 of the areas of the Mandelbrot Set.
 
http://www.= globalserve.net/~derbyshire/manguide.html 
 
 
Bill
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C078DE.B2A7FB40-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DeBow Freed Subject: Re: (fractint) Hi from a real newbie (is that the word?) Date: 07 Jan 2001 21:58:40 -0600 Fellow Newbies-

Two sites which not only deal with the anatomy of Mandelbrot's snowman, as well as other aspects of fractal geometry, and which in some instances are both more accessible and functional to us novices:

1) Boston University's site (find bu.math.edu), specifically Bob Devaney's webpage,and perhaps the best of all for us newbies:

2) M. Casco & Associates' educational site.

Sorry I don't have the precise links, but all 3 can be found with one or two keystrokes with a Google search.

I strongly encourage you to investigate all of them.

D. Freed

PS - any problems finding them, let me know and I'll help.
 
 

"Diana L. Dubel" wrote:

Bill,I am delighted to see that there is a map for the Mandelbrot fractal.  It is an incredibly fascinating object!Thanks,Diana
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 2:48 PM
To: fractint@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: (fractint) Hi from a real newbie (is that the word?)
 
Chris writes
<< One thing I've noticed; Jim Muth talked about 'East Valley' in FOTD 7/01/01.I assume he means what I would call 'Crack of the Bum', (bearing in mind the weEuropeans use the word 'Bum' for the gluteus maximus!)  Is there a semi-officialmap of the Mandelbrot Set with proper names for the various features?  I usewords like 'Spike', 'Second Waist' and 'Side Flame' but they won't mean anythingto anybody else. >>Try this link Chris. There is a map showing the semi-official names for some of the areas of the Mandelbrot Set.http://www.globalserve.net/~derbyshire/manguide.html  Bill
Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Edward Barton" Subject: Re: (fractint) Hello from Diana Date: 08 Jan 2001 11:26:21 +0100 >One area I am still working on is loading a color map for my monitor. >I have an NEC MultiSync 4FG monitor, which has wonderful color, but >which >is an older model, and freezes up when I load regular maps >into it. > >I don't know if I need to keep the possible colors within a certain >range, or not. > >Any ideas? > >Thanks, > >Diana > >======================================== >Diana L. Dubel :-) I am having a similar trouble on my monitor, but only when running Fractint from Windows, and find that if I Alt-Tab out and then back in, the screen fixes itself _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Edward Barton" Subject: (fractint) Hi there! Date: 08 Jan 2001 11:45:39 +0100 I'm happy to be joining all of you fractal admirers. I just recently got interested in fractals, and find Fractint an amazing program. P.S. Does anyone know a way to doublespace a FAT32 harddrive without reformating it? I'm running out of space for the pictures. Happy new Millenium, Edward Barton, writing from Geneva, Switzerland _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Muth Subject: (fractint) C-FOTD 08-01-01 (Black and White [4]) Date: 08 Jan 2001 08:16:42 -0500 (EST) Classic FOTD -- January 08, 2001 (Rating 4) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: As the lateness of this FOTD shows, due to another day of non- productive trial-and-error, I had little time for fractal fun. But I am closing in on the cause of my inability to connect my FOTD machine to my Mindspring provider. I strongly suspect an incompatibility between only Mindspring and only that particular modem. I'll discuss this tomorrow with tech support, and give Mindspring another chance to solve the problem. If they can't tell me how to get my FOTD machine to connect, I'll probably sign up with a provider that I *can* connect to. Today's image features one of those ghost scenes, which consist of all trapped points, all inside lake water that has been left behind after the landscape evaporated. In this image it took a zmag inside fill to bring out the ethereal remnants of the land that has sunk beneath the water. The land has vanished beneath the surface because the escape radius has been raised to 499,900. Lowering the imag(p3) parameter will eventually cause the land to rise to the surface. I named the image "Black and White" when I noticed the two contrasting ghost-buds, one an empty black, the other a luminous green. Behind the buds, ghostly debris fills the sky, and in this debris lie many Mandelbrot midgets, waiting to be brought to life. I rated the picture a 4, mostly because the color lacks harmony. But it's still an interesting image to look at. The iterated expression is nothing more than a mixture of Z and 1/Z, a combination that promises little but delivers much. The calculation takes a full hour on a P200. For relief, the GIF file of the image will be posted to Usenet in about 3 hours, as soon as I arrive at Fractal Central Auxiliary and the machine that does connect. Check for it then on the binary newsgroup: alt.binaries.pictures.fractals The GIF image will also soon be available at: and at: The fractal weather was mostly sunny with a temperature of 44F (6.5C), which was the mildest in several weeks. The fine afternoon lured the fractal cats outdoors for a 1/2 hour romp in the yard. That's it for this morning. But I'll return in about 14 hours with another glorious fractal and a few words about it. Until then, take care, and don't let a late FOTD spoil your day. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Black_and_White { ; time=0:59:31.06 -- SF5 on a P200 reset=2001 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=t center-mag=-12.2367/-11.4115/1.34604/1/-90 params=1/1/1/-1/-1.075/500000 float=y maxiter=2500 inside=zmag logmap=yes periodicity=10 colors=000ZCV<15>RHeQHfQHg<2>OIiOIiNJh<46>HoWHpWHqW<\ 2>HsVHsVIrW<24>NemNdnOdo<3>ObqYKlg1h<35>PfcOgcOhc<3>\ Mlc<3>Yle`leclf<3>nlg<34>CEEBDEACD9BC8AB79A57B<28>Yo\ AZqA_rA<3>bxA<15>ggM } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Multiple Bogeys" Subject: (fractint) Hate to say this but... Date: 08 Jan 2001 08:35:02 -0500 ...there's a problem with the fotd web site again. It's eight in the morning and it still doesn't seem to be there. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Hate to say this but... Date: 08 Jan 2001 10:39:05 -0600 Multiple Bogeys wrote: > > ...there's a problem with the fotd web site > again. It's eight in the morning and it still > doesn't seem to be there. > And why is it so impossible for you to understand what has been explained to you so many times?? I find you lack of comprehension astounding. It all depends on when Jim sends the FOTD to the Discussion Lists, and how long it takes to render the image and upload to the web page. Jim posted todays email "C-FOTD 08-01-01 (Black and White [4])" at the following time: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:16:42 -0500 (EST) The PAR (and his discussion) state it takes about an hour to render: Black_and_White { ; time=0:59:31.06 -- SF5 on a P200 And you sent your snide little remark at the following time: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 08:35:02 -0500 (EST) That is less than twenty minutes from the time he emailed the FOTD, which has to go through various servers and get redistributed through the discussion lists, and then on to other servers. And even when I create it by hand, it is still faster than the latest site which is developing scripting to publish the image. But when Scott gets the "bugs" out, then you can go to that site and complain that it doesn't appear instantaneously. Sincerely, P.N.L. http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kenneth Childress Subject: (fractint) Contest 2K CDs Date: 08 Jan 2001 09:20:41 -0800 (PST) Hi all, All those who have ordered Contest 2K CDs from me were mailed this morning. Those in the US should receive them by the end of the week and international orders by the first of next week. If you do not receive it by them, or have problems with it, please contact me privately. The JAVA applet problems were solved by Tina Oloyede, and worked properly on the CDs I made. If you have problems, please contact me privately, or go to the www.contest2k.com directly. If you still want to order a CD, please see the information at the contest site. Ken... Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "wight" Subject: RE: (fractint) Hi from a real newbie (is that the word?) Date: 08 Jan 2001 10:11:37 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0795B.6376F8A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << Bill, I am delighted to see that there is a map for the Mandelbrot fractal. It is an incredibly fascinating object! Thanks, Diana >> Incredibly fascinating certainly describes the Mandelbrot Set. I wish I were a mathematician so I could understand how the plots are generated. I know that they are plots on the complex plane but I just cannot fathom how all those shapes are created by such a simple formula--it seems like magic. I generated Mandelbrot figures many years ago using a program called Fractal Magic on my second PC, a 286. I can remember starting a computation before I went to bed and letting it run all night and all the next day. Now, using WinFract on a 450 MHrtz Pentium II machine, the longest I've had to wait is about 10 minutes for the deepest zooms the program will do (w/o the deep zoom routines). Most computations are complete in less than a minute. Can someone point me to a resource that tells how to create a color map for the FractInt program? Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0795B.6376F8A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 << Bill,
 
I am delighted = to see that=20 there is a map for the Mandelbrot fractal.  It is an incredibly = fascinating=20 object!
 
Thanks,
 
Diana >>
 
Incredibly fascinating = certainly describes=20 the Mandelbrot Set.  I wish I were a mathematician so I could = understand=20 how the plots are generated.  I know that they are plots on the = complex=20 plane but I just cannot fathom how all those shapes are created by such = a simple=20 formula--it seems like magic.
 
I generated Mandelbrot figures = many years=20 ago using a program called Fractal Magic on my second PC, a 286.  I = can=20 remember starting a computation before I went to bed and letting it run = all=20 night and all the next day.  Now, using WinFract on a 450 MHrtz = Pentium II=20 machine, the longest I've had to wait is about 10 minutes for the = deepest zooms=20 the program will do (w/o the deep zoom routines).  Most = computations are=20 complete in less than a minute.
 
Can someone point me to a = resource that=20 tells how to create a color map for the FractInt=20 program?
 
Bill
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PFM would help, but it's in short supply since the repubs tinkled florida...  :)

  JimMuth@aol.com wrote:

Multiple Bogeys wrote:

>...there's a problem with the fotd web site again. It's eight in the morning
>and it still doesn't seem to be there.

The problem is that it's impossible for the FOTD to appear on anyone's web
site before I write and post it. If anyone knows a way around this
impossibility, I would be grateful for the information.

Jim M.

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Hi,
since I have been away and not part of = the mailing=20 list for a while, I missed
all Fractint Digest from 8 July = 2000.
Could someone please send me a copy of = those up to=20 now? 
 
I am especially intrerested in answers = to two=20 problem which I sent to the
Fractint list and never got a private = answer=20 to:
 
1. How can I get a slideshow of = fractals running=20 with colour cycling in it?
   (Batch = program?)
 
2. Can someone send me a fractint.cfg = file that=20 allows 640x480 SVGA resolution with 256 colours?
 
Please send answers to my private = email: karl@kiwi.gen.nz.
 
Thanks for any help,
Karl Scherer
11 Utting Str, = Auckland, New=20 Zealand
karl@kiwi.gen.nz
Seen my=20 homepage lately?
http://karl.kiwi.gen.nz
 ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C07A32.B5801F00-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Guy Marson Subject: Re: (fractint) Hi there! Date: 09 Jan 2001 00:33:11 +0100 At 11:45 08/01/01 +0100, you wrote: >I'm happy to be joining all of you fractal admirers. >I just recently got interested in fractals, and find Fractint an amazing=20 >program. > >P.S. Does anyone know a way to doublespace a FAT32 harddrive without=20 >reformating it? I'm running out of space for the pictures. Salut Edward,=20 faudrait les br=FBler sur CD.. Ciao, Guy > >Happy new Millenium, >Edward Barton, >writing from Geneva, Switzerland >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@fractint.org >Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Wegner Subject: Re: (fractint) can someone please send me latest Fractint Digests Date: 08 Jan 2001 17:39:29 -0600 Karl asked: > Hi, > since I have been away and not part of the mailing list for a while, I missed > all Fractint Digest from 8 July 2000. > Could someone please send me a copy of those up to now? You can access the artchibes via the web: http://www.xmission.com/pub/lists/fractint/archive/ Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@fractint.org Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Karl Scherer" Subject: (fractint) SVGA 640x480x256? / slideshow with color cycling Date: 09 Jan 2001 12:48:09 +1300 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_010C_01C07A3A.6BABFFE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=20 since I have been away and not part of the mailing list for a while, I = missed all Fractint Digest from 8 July 2000. Could someone please tell me a from where I can download copies of = those?=20 I am especially intrerested in answers to two problem which (as far as I = remember) I sent to the=20 Fractint list and never found an answer to: 1. How can I get a slideshow of fractals running with colour cycling in = it? (Batch program?) (Urgent) 2. Can someone please give me a fractint.cfg file that allows 640x480 = SVGA resolution with 256 colours? (Urgent) Thank you very much for any help!! Karl Scherer 11 Utting Str, Auckland, New Zealand karl@kiwi.gen.nz Seen my homepage lately? http://karl.kiwi.gen.nz ------=_NextPart_000_010C_01C07A3A.6BABFFE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
since I have been away and not part of = the mailing=20 list for a while, I missed
all Fractint Digest from 8 July = 2000.
 
Could someone please tell me a from = where I can=20 download copies of those? 
 
I am especially intrerested in answers = to two=20 problem which (as far as I remember) I sent to the
Fractint list and never found = an answer=20 to:
 
1. How can I get a slideshow of = fractals running=20 with colour cycling in it?
   (Batch program?) = (Urgent)
 
2. Can someone please give me a = fractint.cfg=20 file that allows 640x480 SVGA resolution with 256 colours?
   (Urgent)
 
Thank you very much for any help!!
Karl Scherer
11 Utting Str, = Auckland, New=20 Zealand
karl@kiwi.gen.nz
Seen my=20 homepage lately?
http://karl.kiwi.gen.nz
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