From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) A test.... + a par Date: 01 Mar 1998 03:21:56 -0500 Hi All, I haven't got any message for about 24 hours so I am wondering if the list is down... gravijul-v2 { ; Variation on Mark Christenson's gravijul by Sylvie Gallet= z =3D pixel : w =3D fn1(real(z)) , x =3D fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) w =3D fn1(imag(z)) , y =3D fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) z =3D x + flip(y) + p2 |z| < p3 } sg_gravijul-v2_03 { ; . t=3D 0:02:17= =2E48 ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, Feb 27, 1998 ; ; t=3Dcalc time using a Pentium 166 at 1600 x 1200 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dsg_gravj.par formulaname=3Dgravijul-v2 function=3Dtan/sqrt/recip passes=3D1 center-mag=3D0.177926/0.615303/0.5038743/1/122.5 params=3D1.1/0/0.2/0/2.95/2 float=3Dy maxiter=3D300 inside=3D0 invert=3D1/0.2/0.15 decomp=3D256 colors=3D000605<8>`0Rzzwb0T<9>000B08<34>b0Tzzwb0U<34>403302000<22>YYT__= V``\ WbbYccZ<6>nniookqqmrrottp<3>zzw<14>YYUWWRUUQ<13>222000000<82>302 } Cheers, - Sylvie E-mail: Sylvie_Gallet@CompuServe.com Visit my exhibit at Museun of Computer Art: http://www.dorsai.org/~moca/ My Fractal Galleries: http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/sylvie/gallet.html http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Sylvie_Gallet/homepage.htm - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) gravijul-v2 Date: 01 Mar 1998 01:59:27 -0800 I think the list is working - maybe everyone's afraid of making an off-topic post. Here's another gravijul-2. What a versatile formula. tile_floor { ; kathy roth ; frm by Sylvie Gallet reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gravij~2.frm formulaname=gravijul-v2 function=tan/sqrt/recip passes=1 center-mag=-1.59872e-014/8.88178e-015/0.04930966 params=1/1/1/1/1/1 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 decomp=256 colors=0004ZV<4>1VQ0UP1UP<11>GaPHaPIb\ PKcPKcQLdR<19>bvkcwmbvl<30>MS2LR0MS\ 0<36>st4<5>TZQLSXGO`CLd<7>Ums<5>hrwhr\ wgqv<31>OOlNNlOOl<45>wwm<15>0mm<7>8\ eb9da9da<6>5_W } tile_repeat { ; kathy roth ; frm by Sylvie Gallet reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=gravijul-v2 function=tan/sqrt/recip passes=1 center-mag=-1.59872e-014/8.88178e-015/0.04930966 params=1/1/1/1/1/1 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 decomp=256 colors=000_zn<6>LO3<8>px9<5>KMGFGIBBM\ <14>WWz<7>J9J<15>zWz<7>J09<15>z0W<7\ >J90<15>zW0<7>JJ0<15>zz0<7>99J<15>WWz\ <7>0J9<15>0zW<7>0JJ<14>0xx0zz2tt<6>\ JE9<15>yjU<7>BJF<14>Zwl } - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Jakubowicz Subject: (fractint) Colors Date: 01 Mar 1998 06:34:28 -0800 Hi, Does anyone have a colormap they might be willing to share that wld create the effect of a bug in amber? I have tried and I am unable to do this myself, and now I shall go to bed; but it is discouraging to create images that otherwise would be cool if the colors were right. So I'd really appreciate it if if maybe someone cld at least give some general tips toward getting these colors. I am Sylvie Gallet's triangle formulas and using the Fractint color editor. And once again: the desired effect is: A BUG PRESERVED IN AMBER. Thank you. I recently obtained a copy of Fractals for Windows. Now the authors of this book are very enthusiastic about Winfract (this was circa 1991). However, it is unclear what version of that program the book addresses, because the installation program doesn't work Win95. I considered playing with the current version (18.21, I think) available on the Fractint page, but for seem reason this seems to be discouraged (it says something like, OK, if you _really_ want it, here it is, but be forewarned). Has anyone used this w/ happy results? Also if someone has an executable version of the Winfract version that shipped w/ the book and wouldn't mind sending it to me, or can tell me where I might download this, I would appreciate that, too. My mail server allows huge binary attachments. As a very last resort I wld re-compile it; however, I have a relatively small hard drive and don't really have room to put my Borland 4.xx compiler back on. I'd have to delete somthing big, like Windoze. Goodbye. - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FIRSTNAME LASTNAME Subject: Re: (fractint) A test.... + a par Date: 01 Mar 1998 03:57:06 -0800 (PST) ---Sylvie Gallet wrote: > > Hi All, > > I haven't got any message for about 24 hours so I am wondering if the > list is down... > > gravijul-v2 { ; Variation on Mark Christenson's gravijul by Sylvie Gallet > z = pixel : > w = fn1(real(z)) , x = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) > w = fn1(imag(z)) , y = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) > z = x + flip(y) + p2 > |z| < p3 > } > > sg_gravijul-v2_03 { ; . t= 0:02:17.48 > ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, Feb 27, 1998 > ; > ; t=calc time using a Pentium 166 at 1600 x 1200 > reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=sg_gravj.par > formulaname=gravijul-v2 function=tan/sqrt/recip passes=1 > center-mag=0.177926/0.615303/0.5038743/1/122.5 > params=1.1/0/0.2/0/2.95/2 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 > invert=1/0.2/0.15 decomp=256 > colors=000605<8>`0Rzzwb0T<9>000B08<34>b0Tzzwb0U<34>403302000<22>YYT__V``\ > WbbYccZ<6>nniookqqmrrottp<3>zzw<14>YYUWWRUUQ<13>222000000<82>302 > } > > Cheers, > > - Sylvie > Thank GOD! I thought it was just my setup. I haven't gotten mail at either of my accounts. Maybe it's SUNSPOTS. Who knows? Call Mulder & Scully, maybe they'll find out. 8-> L8R James R. McKenzie _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Hine" Subject: Re: (fractint) Approx. M w/geom (longish) Date: 01 Mar 1998 09:22:25 -0500 Mrvn wonders: >What I now wonder is, if anyone knows how to construct a good >aproximation of the mset by gemoetrical shapes. Well, I've done a little experimentation, and come up with a method for finding the tangent points for all the buds off the main cardioid. It is an iterative process in that you need to know the tangent point of some bulbs before you can calculate the tangent points of other bulbs. Once again, I *intend* to have a graphical description up on my web page by the end of the weekend, but I can't promise this. Below is the verbal description. We will be concerned only with calculating tangents for bulbs off the upper (Quadrants I & II) half of the main cardioid, since the bottom half is a mirror image of the upper. Consider that there is a series of largest bulbs off the main cardioid, starting with the huge period 2 bulb, then including the period 3 bulb, the period 4 bulb, etc., where the next bulb is always the next largest one to be found travelling in a certain direction along the edge of the cardioid. Let us call this first series A. The procedure for finding the tangent point of any of the bulbs in series A was described in detail in my last email on this subject... what we are interested in is knowing the angle, which we'll call theta, to use in the procedure. For series A, theta = 360/p where p is the period of the bulb in question. Therefore, theta = 180 for the period 2 bulb, 120 for the period 3 bulb, and so on. But what about the bulbs between these bulbs? Let's look at the period 5 bulb to be found approximately halfway between the period 2 and 3 bulbs. The period 5 bulb (which will be abbreviated as p5 from now on, to be read as 'the bulb where the period equals 5') can be thought of as the largest bulb in *two* 'smaller' series of bulbs which consist of the larger, smoothly shrinking bulbs on either side of p5. The series extending clockwise from p5 consists of {p5,p8,p11,...,p(3p+2)}, and the series extending counter-clockwise from p5 consists of {p5,p7,p9,...,p(2p+3)}. Now, we need to be able to recognize these so-called series of bulbs because in order to find theta for a bulb, we must know the tangent point of a bulb which 'bounds' its series. For example, the p5 bulb's clockwise series is bounded by p3, and its counter-clockwise series by p2. Let's denote a bounding bulb as b(p), and the angle theta for the bounding bulb as theta(b(p)) (note: no multiplication is meant to be implied here - it is just a labelling method). Using this notation, we can define theta for any bulb off the main cardioid as: theta = theta(b(p)) +/- theta(b(p)) / p The +/- will be a plus sign if the bounding bulb is clockwise from the bulb in question, and a minus sign if the bounding bulb is counter-clockwise from the bulb in question. Let's work through an example or two. As we've already determined, the p5 bulb's bounding bulbs are p2 and p3. To find theta for p5, we need to know theta for at least one of these bounding bulbs; we have already done this above. To find theta for p5 using the p2 bulb: theta = 180 - 180/5 = 144 Or, to find it using p3: theta = 120 + 120/5 = 144 As one more example, consider p11 between our p5 and p3 bulbs. What are p11's boundary bulbs? They are the bulbs which define the 'series' to which p11 belongs. To determine this series, start with p11 and move along the edge of the cardioid until a bulb is found which fits the description of a 'local maximum' in regards to size (not period number). Moving counter-clockwise, we encounter the p8 bulb (which is larger than p11 in size), but if we move almost the same distance again, we encounter p5 - this is one bounding bulb of the series to which p11 belongs. Looking clockwise from p11, the next largest bulb is p3 - this is the other bounding bulb. And because we have already figured out theta for p5 and p3, we can find theta for p11 as either: theta = 120 + 120/11 or theta = 144 - 144/11 I will really try to get some graphics going on my web page this afternoon, really! Cheers, Jason - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wizzle Subject: Re: (fractint) Colors Date: 01 Mar 1998 08:15:28 -0800 I discuss Winfract vs. Fractint in some depth at http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/hints/tips-fractint.htm It's a perfectly good program, but it does have some limitations. On the other hand...for organizing files....particularly looking at color maps with an eye to deleting some or renaming files....it is very useful, I find. Angela ps....bugmaps sent as attachments via separate email >BUG PRESERVED IN AMBER. >Thank you. > > > >I recently obtained a copy of Fractals for Windows. Now the authors of this >book are very enthusiastic about Winfract (this was circa 1991). However, >it is unclear what version of that program the book addresses, because the >installation program doesn't work Win95. >I considered playing with the current version (18.21, I think) available on >the Fractint page, but for seem reason this seems to be discouraged (it >says something like, OK, if you _really_ want it, here it is, but be >forewarned). Has anyone used this w/ happy results? <> - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alex dukay Subject: Re: (fractint) A test.... + a par Date: 01 Mar 1998 13:40:09 -0500 please don't repeat an entire message... like Sylvie Gallet's last posting Alex - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: (fractint) 3d Mandexp fractals Date: 01 Mar 1998 16:19:26 -0500 Can someone explain to me how I can make a 3D fractal, if I use "c= x + yi" (the current point) and "w" is the third coordinate, and plug them into the formula "z(n+1) = z(n) ^ w + c" It's kinda like sliding the mandexp set through a third dimension and using that corrdinate as the real exponent component. If this is possible, and you understand what I am saying, email me back... Thanks, Pete pgavin@mindspring.com - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Hine" Subject: (fractint) Re: A Geom Construction of the M-set Date: 01 Mar 1998 16:59:04 -0500 To all interested, Ok, I've got a few pictures to help with my description of how to find the tangent points for all the bulbs off the main cardioid. I'm not sure where to take it from here... I can see how the buds off the period 2 bulb might be described, but what about period 3? How does one describe the line which represents the 'x-axis' for the period 3 bulb? I'd check out relative areas of bulbs, but I think this has already been done - anyone have two cents to add? Anyway, For a mediocre improvement of my last couple emails on this subject, check out: http://boralf.agsci.colostate.edu/~jason/fracpages/geo_mset.htm Laters, Jason Hine - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Janet Preslar Subject: (fractint) Video RAM Date: 01 Mar 1998 17:27:39 -0600 Does anyone have any experience using 8MB Video RAM (as opposed to 4MB) with Fractint? Janet - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Lee Subject: (fractint) Re: Colors Date: 01 Mar 1998 19:11:55 -0500 At 06:34 AM 3/1/98 -0800, you wrote: >Hi, >Does anyone have a colormap they might be willing to share that wld create >the effect of a bug in amber? ;) I believe that lyapunov.map would be a good place to start. The colors are relatively close. However, you might need to do a bit of cycling or actual map editing to get it right, depending on what you're trying to amberize(?). >I considered playing with the current version (18.21, I think) available on >the Fractint page, but for seem reason this seems to be discouraged (it >says something like, OK, if you _really_ want it, here it is, but be >forewarned). Has anyone used this w/ happy results? I have. It's good for if I want to pop into Fractint and do a quick render of something (like the Mandelbrot Set) at low-res so that I can play with it in Photoshop. >Also if someone has an >executable version of the Winfract version that shipped w/ the book and >wouldn't mind sending it to me, or can tell me where I might download this, >I would appreciate that, too. I wonder if that actually was 18.21... I haven't seen any updates to Winfract for awhile. -Jason - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: (fractint) Sender: owner-fractint@lists.xmission.com Date: 01 Mar 1998 16:26:23 -0800 comment { commentary and pars by Mark "Bud" Christenson 3/1/98 Wow, Sylvie! Awesome variant! Now I need to get some work done. In the mean time, check out the product of several wasted hours... Bud } gjv2-01 { ; "Grade", (c) Bud 3/1/98 ; frm gjv2 by Sylvie Gallet reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=filist.frm formulaname=gravijul-v2 function=acos/sqrt/recip passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.3899791 params=0/0.8/0/0/4/0 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 decomp=256 colors=000yx0yy0zz0<64>1z00z00z00y0<12>0l00k00j2<15>0MY0L_1L_<3>8JX00K33\ M76PA9RCASEBTGDU<2>LFUNGVPHVQIWRIW<3>ZMY_NZaOZbOZ<3>hR_iR_kS_mT_nU` pV`rW\ a<10>yjhzliznk<6>zxxzzzyzz<30>4WW2VV2UV1TU<15>0FF<15>s_0<27>yw0 } gjv2-02 { ; "Induction", (c) Bud 3/1/98 ; frm gjv2 by Sylvie Gallet reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=filist.frm formulaname=gravijul-v2 function=atanh/sqrt/recip passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.3462885 params=0/0.9/0/0/4/0 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 decomp=256 colors=000yx0yy0zz0<64>1z00z00z00y0<12>0l0mmz<5>Hgk<3>7`d4Zb3W`<4>0JU00K\ <7>76PA9R<2>GDUIEUJEULFUNGVPHVQIW<4>ZMY_NZaOZbOZdPZ<2>hR_iR_kS_mT_<2 >rWa\ sXbsZb<8>yjhzliznk<6>zxxzzzyzz<30>4WW2VV2UV<16>0FF<8>Z77b66d86<4>oN3rQ3t\ T2wW1xa1zh0zq0zz0zz0zZ0<6>zz0vn0<10>yw0 } gjv2-04 { ; "Internal Reflections", (c) Bud 3/1/98 ; frm gjv2 by Sylvie Gallet reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=filist.frm formulaname=gravijul-v2 function=sin/log/acosh passes=t center-mag=0/0.78/0.426 params=0/1.2/0/0/4/0 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 decomp=256 colors=GG`<3>CCYCCYCDY<17>CRTCRTCSSCSSCTS<12>CeRDeRFfR<30>xyDzzCzyC<6> wo\ CwmCwmC<15>naEnaEm`D<5>kXDjWDjVDiUCiTChSC<3>gPBfOAfNAeM9eL9<20>W11V00V 11\ <14>_CC_DD_EE`FF`FF`GG<25>nddoeepggqhh<3>unnupovqqvrr<3>yxxzzzzzz<47>HH` cyclerange=0/255 } frm:gravijul-v2 { ; Variation on Mark Christenson's gravijul by Sylvie Gallet z = pixel : w = fn1(real(z)) , x = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) w = fn1(imag(z)) , y = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) z = x + flip(y) + p2 |z| < p3 } - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: (fractint) (Fwd) Fix needed for F-tint 20 Date: 01 Mar 1998 18:26:10 -0600 Can anyone else duplicate this problem? With Bob's permission I am posting some mail he sent me privately. I can't duplicate this. The built-in limit seems to be 2000 formula entries in a file. If I can duplicate the problem I will look into it. Tim ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Reply-to: rttyman@wwa.com Hi Tim: I've noticed a problem with Fractint with regards to the number of formulas that can be stored in one file. Because of this problem, I limit myself to having no more than 100 formulas in a file. I discovered that when I had somewhere around 150 formulas, the formula names listed on the selection menu would run up against each other like this: formula1formula2formula3 etc. It didn't matter how few characters there were, the same thing would happen even if they were frm1frm2frm3frm4frm etc. This problem does not occur with parameter files ot color map files. Would you kindly rectify this snafu in FractInt20? I'd be eternally grateful to you. Bob Margolis - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: (fractint) gravijul-v2 (second transmission) Date: 01 Mar 1998 16:49:28 -0800 comment { commentary and pars by Mark "Bud" Christenson 3/1/98 Sorry for the screwed-up subject line in my last msg. Wow, Sylvie! Awesome variant! Now I need to get some work done. In the mean time, check out the product of several wasted hours... Bud } gjv2-01 { ; "Grade", (c) Bud 3/1/98 ; frm gjv2 by Sylvie Gallet reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=filist.frm formulaname=gravijul-v2 function=acos/sqrt/recip passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.3899791 params=0/0.8/0/0/4/0 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 decomp=256 colors=000yx0yy0zz0<64>1z00z00z00y0<12>0l00k00j2<15>0MY0L_1L_<3>8JX00K33\ M76PA9RCASEBTGDU<2>LFUNGVPHVQIWRIW<3>ZMY_NZaOZbOZ<3>hR_iR_kS_mT_nU` pV`rW\ a<10>yjhzliznk<6>zxxzzzyzz<30>4WW2VV2UV1TU<15>0FF<15>s_0<27>yw0 } gjv2-02 { ; "Induction", (c) Bud 3/1/98 ; frm gjv2 by Sylvie Gallet reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=filist.frm formulaname=gravijul-v2 function=atanh/sqrt/recip passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.3462885 params=0/0.9/0/0/4/0 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 decomp=256 colors=000yx0yy0zz0<64>1z00z00z00y0<12>0l0mmz<5>Hgk<3>7`d4Zb3W`<4>0JU00K\ <7>76PA9R<2>GDUIEUJEULFUNGVPHVQIW<4>ZMY_NZaOZbOZdPZ<2>hR_iR_kS_mT_<2 >rWa\ sXbsZb<8>yjhzliznk<6>zxxzzzyzz<30>4WW2VV2UV<16>0FF<8>Z77b66d86<4>oN3rQ3t\ T2wW1xa1zh0zq0zz0zz0zZ0<6>zz0vn0<10>yw0 } gjv2-04 { ; "Internal Reflections", (c) Bud 3/1/98 ; frm gjv2 by Sylvie Gallet reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=filist.frm formulaname=gravijul-v2 function=sin/log/acosh passes=t center-mag=0/0.78/0.426 params=0/1.2/0/0/4/0 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 decomp=256 colors=GG`<3>CCYCCYCDY<17>CRTCRTCSSCSSCTS<12>CeRDeRFfR<30>xyDzzCzyC<6> wo\ CwmCwmC<15>naEnaEm`D<5>kXDjWDjVDiUCiTChSC<3>gPBfOAfNAeM9eL9<20>W11V00V 11\ <14>_CC_DD_EE`FF`FF`GG<25>nddoeepggqhh<3>unnupovqqvrr<3>yxxzzzzzz<47>HH` cyclerange=0/255 } frm:gravijul-v2 { ; Variation on Mark Christenson's gravijul by Sylvie Gallet z = pixel : w = fn1(real(z)) , x = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) w = fn1(imag(z)) , y = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) z = x + flip(y) + p2 |z| < p3 } - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) gravijul-v2 (second transmission) Date: 02 Mar 1998 18:24:41 -0500 Hi Bud, >> Wow, Sylvie! Awesome variant! Now I need to get some work done. In >> the mean time, check out the product of several wasted hours... Wow! Here is another one: sg_gravijul-v3_07 { ; . t=3D 0:00:49= =2E38 ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, Mar 01, 1998 ; ; t=3Dcalc time using a Pentium 166 at 1600 x 1200 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dsg_gravj.par formulaname=3Dgravijul-v3 function=3Dflip/asin/asin passes=3D1 center-mag=3D4.44089e-016/0/0.03026086/1/45 params=3D32/0/8/0/6/0 float=3Dy maxiter=3D256 decomp=3D256 periodicity=3D0 colors=3DrrrcYK<10>VMBUKAUKA<40>vvbwwcwvc<32>UPF000<106>000UKA<30>vubww= cwv\ c<21>dZL000 cyclerange=3D1/254 } sg_gravijul-v3_08 { ; . t=3D 0:00:57= =2E78 ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, Mar 02, 1998 ; ; t=3Dcalc time using a Pentium 166 at 1600 x 1200 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dsg_gravj.par formulaname=3Dgravijul-v3 function=3Dasinh/log/asinh passes=3D1 center-mag=3D1.77636e-015/-1.55431e-015/0.08372294/1/150 params=3D13.5/0/-11.5/0/2.5/0 float=3Dy maxiter=3D511 decomp=3D256 periodicity=3D0 colors=3DpnX<5>vubwwcwvc<25>`VI_UHYTG<5>RMBPKAPKA<17>e`MfaNgbOhcPidQieQ= <17\ >vvbwwcwvc<23>aYM`XLZVK<13>332000000<77>000000100211<11>GD7HE8IF9JGAKHA= <\ 10>XTJYUJZVK_WK`XL<2>c_Md`NeaOfbPgcQ<6>olW cyclerange=3D0/255 } sg_gravijul-v3_09 { ; . t=3D 0:01:01= =2E96 ; Copyright Sylvie Gallet, Mar 03, 1998 ; ; t=3Dcalc time using a Pentium 166 at 1600 x 1200 reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dsg_gravj.par formulaname=3Dgravijul-v3 function=3Dcotanh/flip/log passes=3D1 center-mag=3D0/2.77556e-017/0.6987274/0.6283/-18.855/14.713 params=3D-3.6/0/1/0/3.14159265358979/0 float=3Dy maxiter=3D256 inside=3D= 0 decomp=3D256 periodicity=3D0 colors=3D806<19>604604714<8>D54000<31>WM1WM1XN1YN2ZO2<9>fU7gV7hW8iW9<16= >qe\ LqfMrfNrfN<18>zpZ000<5>000zwh<30>qiYphXphXogWnfV<28>QLBPKBNJA<12>221000= 0\ 00<45>000 cyclerange=3D0/255 } frm:gravijul-v3 { ; Variation on Mark Christenson's gravijul by Sylvie Gallet z =3D pixel: w =3D fn1(z) z =3D fn3(fn2(w*w)^p1) + p2 |z| < p3 } Cheers, - Sylvie - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rich Thomson Subject: Re: (fractint) 3d Mandexp fractals Date: 02 Mar 1998 13:01:17 -0700 In article <019401bd4557$b7f1f280$6282cdcf@MS202705> , "Peter Gavin" writes: > Can someone explain to me how I can make a 3D fractal, if I use "c= x + yi" > (the current point) and "w" is the third coordinate, and plug them into the > formula Depends on what you mean by "3D fractal". Can you be more specific? > "z(n+1) = z(n) ^ w + c" > > It's kinda like sliding the mandexp set through a third dimension and using > that corrdinate as the real exponent component. If this is possible, and > you understand what I am saying, email me back... I don't know if its possible yet, since I don't know what you're asking for :) -- Rich Thomson rthomson@ptc.com - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wizzle Subject: (fractint) julias Date: 02 Mar 1998 16:25:54 -0800 I took a day off and...of course...fractaled... In my browsings...I ran across this absolutlely delightful julia ......and the pars below are a tweek on the original parameters. Thanks to whoever originally posted this julia. Please please please.....when posting pars...identify yourselves on the first line. I do so enjoy all the postings and would like to thank all the contributors but am lazy and only look at the information visible when I open the par.....that is limited to the name of the par and whatever you feel is most urgent to say....to me...your name is tops!!! Hey....initials are fine....avw is me. I want to be able to say thanks or whatever. While the julias aren't original...at least my color maps are...and each julia has a new wizzle map....enjoy. laser_julia { ; with the laser2.map by wizzle ; a classic julia from an earlier posting reset=1960 type=julia corners=-0.00277179852/0.00276993029/-0.00277080387/0.00277092494 params=-1.746917245/0.00337591395 maxiter=500 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000G8M<3>c0v<14>l`xmcylbx<20>BAX<5>22t00y01u<6>7AP7BK6AH<5>000222\ <14>biq<14>KPS<3>000110<8>HHDJJELLGNNI<14>wwl<18>GGCDDACC9AA8996<3>_00<1\ 2>z00y00<13>Y0DW0ES0K<5>00y<14>Y0X`0Va3W<14>xvj<5>qeXobVnZS<7>cA9aA9ZA9W\ 9JT99<7>559<2>A9D } laser_juli2 { ; with the deeps9.map by wizzle ; a classic julia from an earlier posting reset=1960 type=julia corners=-0.00277179852/0.00276993029/-0.00277080387/0.00277092494 params=-1.746917245/0.00337581395 maxiter=500 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000U30<3>K0K<12>mUm<28>J69I58I47J35J24<15>mAK<11>J14G02E02C01A00<\ 2>0GG<11>0zz<15>000<15>00z<10>00K<15>Amw<11>0D3<14>0zm<12>C0C<14>SivUmzU\ jw<14>G0A<12>zmm<12>X74 } laser_juli3 { ; with the deeps8.map by wizzle ; a classic julia from an earlier posting reset=1960 type=julia corners=-0.00277179852/0.00276993029/-0.00277080387/0.00277092494 params=-1.746917245/0.00337560395 maxiter=500 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000q`Z<9>U30<3>K0J<12>mUl<34>C00<5>VNHYRK`VO<7>zzl<15>0CB<12>0zy<\ 15>000<15>00y<11>00F<14>zzl<10>0A0<5>0TH0XK0_O<7>0zl<12>C0B<14>SiuUmyUjv\ <14>G09<12>zml<2>scb } laser_juli4 { ; with the deeps7.map by wizzle ; a classic julia from an earlier posting reset=1960 type=julia corners=-0.00277179852/0.00276993029/-0.00277080387/0.00277092494 params=-1.746917345/0.00337560395 maxiter=500 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=0000eS<5>0zm<13>080040000<15>z0z<14>40400K<15>zzz<14>44N<2>4A45D5\ <13>QvjSzmRwj<14>C00<15>zzm<15>0CC<12>0zz<15>000<15>00z<15>000<15>zzm<15\ >0000700F0<6>0aP } laser_juli5 { ; with the deeps6.map by wizzle ; a classic julia from an earlier posting reset=1960 type=julia corners=-0.00277179852/0.00276993029/-0.00277080387/0.00277092494 params=-1.746917325/0.00337560375 maxiter=500 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000eZS<15>N75M54N77<13>alpcrt<15>00O<7>czt<24>0A04A1<2>IA9<21>wzn\ <19>K0B<4>V5HX6IZ7Ja9KcALfBM<6>wKT<15>K09<16>ipv<9>K0R<10>zzl<22>L28<18>\ wwl<4>pmdnkbmjalh`<4>f_U } laser_juli6 { ; with the deeps5.map by wizzle ; a classic julia from an earlier posting reset=1960 type=julia corners=-0.00277179852/0.00276993029/-0.00277080387/0.00277092494 params=-1.746917425/0.00337560375 maxiter=500 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000VGH<4>L28<18>wwl<4>pmdnkbmjalh`<22>M54K32K35<2>K1FK0JM5M<8>crt\ <15>00O<7>crt<17>U0T<7>H0TF0TG2T<22>wzn<19>K0B<16>wKb<15>K09<16>ipv<9>K0\ R<10>zzl<16>WIJ } p.s. I would dearly love to understand why this is a squarish type of julia....if the explanation isn't too terribly mathematical. - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wizzle Subject: Re: (fractint) 3d Mandexp fractals Date: 02 Mar 1998 16:33:15 -0800 Pete... Les St. Clair recently posted some 3D fractals.....check out his awesome site at http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/ and he posted the pars for some of his 3D stuff here as well. I think if you download his pars.....and check out the documentation in fractint about the 3D feature...you will be well on your 3D way. I found the methodology pretty simple once Les got me going. I even made a 3D fractal of my own!!! ((thank you les)) Angela aka wizzle : > >In article <019401bd4557$b7f1f280$6282cdcf@MS202705> , > "Peter Gavin" writes: >> Can someone explain to me how I can make a 3D fractal, if I use "c= x + yi" >> (the current point) and "w" is the third coordinate, and plug them into the >> formula > >Depends on what you mean by "3D fractal". Can you be more specific? > >> "z(n+1) = z(n) ^ w + c" >> >> It's kinda like sliding the mandexp set through a third dimension and using >> that corrdinate as the real exponent component. If this is possible, and >> you understand what I am saying, email me back... > >I don't know if its possible yet, since I don't know what you're >asking for :) >-- > - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: (fractint) Pixel units Date: 01 Mar 1998 22:06:08 -0800 Hi gurus, What are the units of the variable Pixel ??? If I want to swap re for im, I use flip but what if I want to flip a picture upside down in the formula? Do I write 1-Pixel ???? Jay - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: Re: (fractint) Pixel units Date: 02 Mar 1998 20:03:42 -0500 You can use the conjugate of the point variable -- you just replace every instance of 'z' with 'conj(z)' (or whatever :) ) This works because the conjugate of 'a + bi' is 'a - bi', thus, every point above the axis is mapped below the axis. To flip it over the y-axis, use '-conj(z)', which would change 'a + bi' to '-a + bi'. Pete -----Original Message----- >Hi gurus, > >What are the units of the variable > >Pixel > >??? > >If I want to swap re for im, I use flip but what >if I want to flip a picture upside down in the formula? >Do I write > >1-Pixel > >???? > >Jay > > >- >------------------------------------------------------------ >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) julias Date: 02 Mar 1998 17:36:54 -0800 Hi Wizzle, Julias look like the region around the spot in the MSet specified by the parameters. So in your post.... ;laser_juli6 { ; with the deeps5.map by wizzle ; ; a classic julia from an earlier posting ; reset=1960 type=julia ; corners=-0.00277179852/0.00276993029/-0.00277080387/0.00277092494 ; params=-1.746917425/0.00337560375 ;^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this is the location in M. Now you must zoom in until you see the 'same' pattern. I have zoomed in to look for the midget. It is off a little, probably due to your not using floating. So in the following I moved over a bit, then hit space to get the Julia. (I'm taking a break from the massive testing at work, the machine is rebooting.) Jay laser_juli6-M { ; Part of M (JHill) based on Julia coordinates ; with the deeps5.map by wizzle ; a classic julia from an earlier posting reset=1960 type=mandel center-mag=-1.746917425/0.0033756037/400641 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=500 colors=000VGH<4>L28<18>wwl<4>pmdnk\ bmjalh`<20>O87N75M54K32K35K28K2CK1FK0J\ <9>crt<15>00O<7>crt<16>V3VU0TS0T<6> \H0TF0TG2T<22>wzn<19>K0B<16>wKb<15>K09\ <16>ipv<9>K0R<10>zzl<16>WIJ } laser_juli6-M2 { ; Part of M (JHill) moved over to midget ; with the deeps5.map by wizzle ; a classic julia from an earlier posting reset=1960 type=mandel center-mag=-1.74691725213336500/+0.00337583023647279/2.040407e+008 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=500 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000VGH<4>L28<18>wwl<4>pmdnk\ bmjalh`<22>M54K32K35<2>K1FK0JM6N<8>crt\ <15>00O<7>crt<16>V3VU0TS0T<7>F0T<23>w\ zn<19>K0B<16>wKb<15>K09<16>ipv<9>K0\ R<10>zzl<16>WIJ } laser_juli6-M2j { ; (JHill) Julia for midget ; with the deeps5.map by wizzle ; a classic julia from an earlier posting reset=1960 type=julia center-mag=-0.00000000000000012/+0.00000000000000009/498.9002 params=-1.746917252106023/0.00337583026110084 float=y maxiter=500 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000VGH<4>L28<18>wwl<4>pmdnk\ bmjalh`<22>M54K32K35<2>K1FK0JM6N<8>crt\ <15>00O<7>crt<16>V3VU0TS0T<7>F0T<23>\ wzn<19>K0B<16>wKb<15>K09<16>ipv<9>K0\ R<10>zzl<16>WIJ } - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: (fractint) Video modes Date: 02 Mar 1998 20:51:02 -0500 I'm rather annoyed... I have several fractals I started in 1024x768x256 svga mode, and I want to run them in batch mode in the background in win95, using disk-video... But whenever I run them, fractint uses the svga mode I used when I saved them. Does anyone know a way around this?... Thanks, Pete - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) julias Date: 02 Mar 1998 17:56:03 -0800 Wizzle wrote: >p.s. I would dearly love to understand why this is a squarish type of >julia....if the explanation isn't too terribly mathematical. The Julia set image has to have all the features seen around the parameter spot in the Mandelbrot set. So at lower magnification in M we have the following (see par). This shows up first twice then four times in M when we zoom in. And so it also does as we zoom into the Julia. You chose a zoom that shows the four fold and so it looks squarish. Try this par at all zooms into the midget. Then press space twice and watch all zooms in the Julia. See the same sort of 'stuff'. Jay laser_juli6-M2-pre { ; Part of M (JHill) based on Julia coordinates ; preimage at lower magnification ; with the deeps5.map by wizzle ; a classic julia from an earlier posting reset=1960 type=mandel center-mag=-1.74691725213336500/+0.00337583023647279/5154.412 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=500 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=000VGH<4>L28<18>wwl<4>pmdnk\ bmjalh`<20>O87N75M54K32K35K28K2CK1FK0J\ <9>crt<15>00O<7>crt<16>V3VU0TS0T<7>F0T\ <23>wzn<19>K0B<16>wKb<15>K09<16>ip\ v<9>K0R<10>zzl<16>WIJ } - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) Pixel units Date: 02 Mar 1998 17:42:35 -0800 Pete wrote >You can use the conjugate of the point variable -- you just replace every >instance of 'z' with 'conj(z)' (or whatever :) ) This works because the >conjugate of 'a + bi' is 'a - bi', thus, every point above the axis is >mapped below the axis. To flip it over the y-axis, use >'-conj(z)', which would change 'a + bi' to '-a + bi'. I'm using something like this. w=Pixel c=transformation(w); transformation involves exp and other stuff, ; very nonlinear. z=0: and then the usual Mandelbrot like iteration But I'm trying in the w= step to get the upside down of the image. I tried w=1-Pixel and since the image is centered at 2.5 I try w=2.5-real(Pixel)+imag(Pixel) but I usually get black screen, not what I expect. Jay - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) (Fwd) Fix needed for F-tint 20 Date: 01 Mar 1998 22:27:13 -0600 Michael wrote: > I set up a 1.13M formula file and got the message that there were > too many entries and only the first 2000 were being used. No problem > with names running into each other though. This is exactly my situation. The limit of 2000 is built in, but Bob is getting a bad failure much sooner. Unfortunately, if I can't duplicate it, I can't debug it. Must have to do with some peculiarity of Bob's setup. Thanks for the report. Tim - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VRCH78B@prodigy.com (MR CHARLES F CROCKER) Subject: Re: (fractint) (Fwd) Fix needed for F-ti Date: 01 Mar 1998 22:59:38, -0500 Tim I suppose negative results don't prove anything but in the Orgform compilation Bob Carrs formulas list perfectly up to about a thousand. I would have to give Fractint a high score on formatting the results to fit the longest name in a collection. It worked as well with one of my collections that had 200 entries with much longer formula names. Charles - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Mitchell Subject: Re: (fractint) Video modes Date: 02 Mar 1998 20:47:28 -0700 (MST) Peter, You need to make sure you have the 1024x768x256 disk video mode specified in your fractint.cfg file. For simplicity, I'll assume that it's invoked by "af10" (alt-f10). Then, you should be able to regenerate fract001.gif which was started with 1024x768x256 svga, by running the batch file with this command in it: fractint filename=fract001 video=af10 batch=yes If that doesn't work, save the offending parameters to a par file, and either specify "video=af10" in the par, or in the batch file, as above. Kerry Kerry Mitchell lkmitch@primenet.com On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Peter Gavin wrote: > I'm rather annoyed... I have several fractals I started in 1024x768x256 > svga mode, and I want to run them in batch mode in the background in win95, > using disk-video... But whenever I run them, fractint uses the svga mode I > used when I saved them. Does anyone know a way around this?... > > Thanks, > Pete > > > > - > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Mitchell Subject: Re: (fractint) Video modes Date: 02 Mar 1998 20:47:28 -0700 (MST) Peter, You need to make sure you have the 1024x768x256 disk video mode specified in your fractint.cfg file. For simplicity, I'll assume that it's invoked by "af10" (alt-f10). Then, you should be able to regenerate fract001.gif which was started with 1024x768x256 svga, by running the batch file with this command in it: fractint filename=fract001 video=af10 batch=yes If that doesn't work, save the offending parameters to a par file, and either specify "video=af10" in the par, or in the batch file, as above. Kerry Kerry Mitchell lkmitch@primenet.com On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Peter Gavin wrote: > I'm rather annoyed... I have several fractals I started in 1024x768x256 > svga mode, and I want to run them in batch mode in the background in win95, > using disk-video... But whenever I run them, fractint uses the svga mode I > used when I saved them. Does anyone know a way around this?... > > Thanks, > Pete > > > > - > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wizzle Subject: (fractint) par Date: 01 Mar 1998 19:49:14 -0800 I was messing around with Sylvie's variation on the gravijul formula....and this image really does seem to be worth sharing...it has a new colormap too. glitter_x { ; wizzle 1998 ; frm gjv2 by Sylvie Gallet reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=mar98.frm formulaname=gravijul-v2 function=asinh/log/log center-mag=0.0255918/-0.109246/0.1625985/1.3333 params=3/1.5/0/0/4/0 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 decomp=256 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0 colors=ZZj<7>mmz<23>22D00A008<2>000<2>000000123<18>SpwUszTqw<16>23400000\ 0<4>000000211<3>B56A0A<34>xxuzzwyyv<26>K88I66F55<3>000<2>000000112<3>336\ 000437<21>JGTKHUKHT<8>ECKDBICAHBAGB9FA8E<12>111000000000<3>0008043016030\ 0A<17>XXh cyclerange=0/255 } gravijul-v2 { ; Variation on Mark Christenson's gravijul by Sylvie Gallet z = pixel : w = fn1(real(z)) , x = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) w = fn1(imag(z)) , y = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) z = x + flip(y) + p2 |z| < p3 } Thanks everyone for a great formula!! - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lavondyss" Subject: (fractint) posted par or frm files Date: 03 Mar 1998 00:15:01 How do I get the posted parameter files and or formula files to work when they are sent through e-mail? I've tried renaming them. Am I just doing it wrong? Please help. Frustrated Fractineer -Lavondyss - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: (fractint) simplgif Date: 01 Mar 1998 22:27:13 -0600 I have uploaded a massively revised simplgif program to ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/simplgif.zip I'd appreciate hearing results of any testing, and which executable is better. Included are executables compiled with MSC (large model) and djgpp and the C source. I haven't tried, but I would expect the source to complile with minimal problems under Unix. I did some editing of the encoder and decoder sources, mostly unifying some typedefs and "ansifying" the old K&R style. However, I felt it would be unwise to edit the reliable encoding and decoding sources too radically. Given the variable quality of GIF sources, I am really happy with the compress encoder and Steve Bennett's decoder. This version has a new decoder, basically the same one as in Fractint. Let me know if you have any suggestions. The buffering scheme used in reading and writing the tempory file is the same as in the original simplgif by Bert Tyler. This could be made more efficient. I made a start at eliminating signed 16 bit integers in favor of unisgned, so that simplgif would work with 64K rows. I doubt this is complete, so most likely the limit is 32K. Tim - Thanks for using Fractdev, The Fractint Developer's Discussion List Post Message: fractdev@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractdev" - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FIRSTNAME LASTNAME Subject: Re: (fractint) posted par or frm files Date: 03 Mar 1998 01:24:56 -0800 (PST) ---Lavondyss wrote: > > How do I get the posted parameter files and or formula files to work when > they are sent through e-mail? I've tried renaming them. Am I just doing it > wrong? Please help. > > Frustrated Fractineer > -Lavondyss > One "possible" problem might be one I've had alot of trouble with. Look for the color area in the PAR, if it's double spaced that won't read in properly with FRACTINT. Example : color=675dfgf8787tolk9o9898g979g97gf <7889787875875jk897gf>897897f87f<86 9867ihv8ycfuiovuivyuiv9 The last line might need that gap as it's first character (as we all know computers read empty spaces as actual commands or command structures) but combine the lines like below and it should work. (note it's still jiberish, just an example) color=675dfgf8787tolk9o9898g979g97gf <7889787875875jk897gf>897897f87f<86 9867ihv8ycfuiovuivyuiv9 Hopfully I haven't left you more confused, if I Did sorry. James R. McKenzie _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Martin <76440.1143@compuserve.com> Subject: (fractint) posted par or frm files Date: 03 Mar 1998 06:38:56 -0500 Lavondyss wrote >How do I get the posted parameter files and or formula files to work when >they are sent through e-mail? Getting from a message to an image drawing on your screen does take a fair amount of knowledge of how Fractint works. First, make sure you have the most recent version of Fractint, currently 19.6. Each new release incorporates new features, and many current postings will only work with the latest version. Second, a word about directories. Unless you give instructions to Fractint to the contrary (via special command line options or in a file called "sstools.ini"), Fractint will look for all relevant files in the same directory where Fractint.exe is located. Starting off, it is probably easiest simply to use the one directory. As you get more familiar with the program, you will learn how to create separate subdirectories for the various kinds of files, and how to tell Fractint where those subdirectories are. Finally, the information which Fractint uses to draw an image is contained in ASCII text files with entries in the form: Name {; comments various commands } The relevant entries are 1. Parameter entries. These are entries with commands such as type=xxx colors=lots_of_Martian, etc. Usually, the first command is "reset=####", where the #### is the version of fractint which was in use when the entry was originally created. Don't worry about that; if a version earlier than 19.6 was used, the current version will still draw the image. Parameter entries contain all the information needed for fractint to draw an image, unless "type=formula", in which case fractint will need to find the formula. The name of the formula is identified in the entry with the command "formulaname=xxx". There is also usually a command in the parameter entry "formulafile=xxx.frm", but this is not important, because Fractint is quite clever in searching for and finding formulas. More about that later. "type=ifs" and "type=lsystem" also require fractint to find the relevant ifs or lsystem entries, but postings with these commands are reletively rare, so I wouldn't worry about that now. Parameter entries contained in messages should be copied to a DOS text file with the extension ".par". You can use any name you want for the file, such as 1998msg.par. Just copy the text of the message to the .par file, and then edit it to delete everything except the parameter entry or entries contained in the message (in each case beginning with the name of the entry and ending with the "}"). Don't delete the original message yet if there are formulas in the message! Those entries will be copied to a separate file. Occasionally, problems are caused by the email software which people use to post these entries. Take a look at each entry; there should be no blank lines, and for the long commands such as colors=, the last character of the intermediate lines should be a "\". 2. Formula entries. When the parameter entry is "type=formula", fractint must find the named formula in order to draw the image. A formula has the same overall structure as a parameter entry, i.e. Name {; comments various calculation instructions } and are pretty easy to identify; they have assignment instructions such as z=pixel or c=sin(pixel); a ":" will appear somewhere in the formula; and in some you will see flow control instructions such as IF (x==y) etc. Formulas need to be copied to a DOS text file with the extension ".frm". Any name is OK, such as "1998msg.frm". Edit the file to delete everything except the formula entry or entries. If an entry name is preceded with "frm:", delete the "frm:". This is a feature which permits the formula to be included in a .par file, but it is a good habit, I think, to get the formulas into files with the .frm extension. That way they will be available for general use and not just the initial drawing of the related parameter entry. 3. Ifs and Lsystem entries. The general format is the same, but the information in these entries looks quite a bit different. They should be copied to files with extensions ".ifs" and ".L" respectively, and any preceding "ifs:" or "lsys:" edited out. Now, to run the parameter entry. 1. Go to your fractint directory and start Fractint. 2. Select your video mode. 3. Hit Shift-2 (the "@" key). This will probably bring up a list of parameter entries in the default .par file "fractint.par". 4. Hit F6. This exits fractint.par and shows you a list of .par files in the default directory. Presumably, your 1998msg.par will be one of them. Put the cursor on it, and hit . This will show you a list of the parameter entries in that .par file. 5. Move the cursor to the entry you want to draw, and hit . 6. The image should start drawing. Enjoy. 7. You can zoom, change parameters, and do anything else that fractint permits you to do with an image. Important commands to do these things are Page-UP (for zooming), and "x", "y", and "z" for changing various options. You can save the image by hitting "s". You can create your own parameter entry by hitting "b" and entering the requested information. Finally, if you want to draw your own image using a formula, hit "t" from any image screen or the main menu, select type "formula", and hit F6 to get out of the default fractint.frm list of formulas to see a list of .frm files. Select the file you are interested in, hit , and select the formula you want to draw. Before drawing the formula, Fractint will show you the formula text and provide space for entering user specified variables (p1, p2, and p3) and user specified functions (fn1, fn2, fn3, and fn4), if any. You can change your selections at any time the image is drawing by hitting "z". George Martin - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wizzle Subject: Re: (fractint) posted par or frm files Date: 03 Mar 1998 07:09:06 -0800 George... I thought yours was an excellent explanation. Would you mind if I copied it and posted it at my website along with several other lessons I have there? In the very few months I've been on this list this question has materialized several times so it seems worthwhile to have it permanently available for reference. Angela At 06:38 AM 3/3/98 -0500, you wrote: >Lavondyss wrote > >>How do I get the posted parameter files and or formula files to work when >>they are sent through e-mail? > > >Getting from a message to an image drawing on your screen does take a fair >amount of knowledge of how Fractint works. > > First, make sure you have the most recent version of Fractint, currently >19.6. Each new release incorporates new features, and many current postings >will only work with the latest version. > > <> > >George Martin > > - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Martin <76440.1143@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: (fractint) posted par or frm files Date: 03 Mar 1998 11:36:54 -0500 Angela, > I thought yours was an excellent explanation. Would you mind if I copied it and posted it at my website < Sure, go ahead. I think it will be better to be able simply to refer someone to your website rather than repeating the explanation in this message base each time the question comes up. George - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: (fractint) gravijul-v3 Date: 03 Mar 1998 10:39:02 -0800 Seeing Sylvie's gravijul-v3 has reminded me of a question that has been in the back of my mind for some time. I have a basic understanding of complex math; mulitiplication is no problem, but raising to fractional or complex powers is a total mystery to me. Can anyone point me to a good tutorial? No need to bore the whole list, please just send the URL or book/article title. Thanks, Bud - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: (fractint) gravijul-v3 - addendum Date: 03 Mar 1998 10:50:15 -0800 I wrote: > No need to bore the whole list, please just send the URL or book/article title. > What I *meant* to say was: please just send the URL or book/article title (to the list), as opposed to the article itself. I'm sure the subject would be of general interest, I just didn't want to waste bandwidth with a post of the whole enchilada. Bud - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lavondyss" Subject: Re: (fractint) posted par or frm files Date: 03 Mar 1998 13:00:21 Thanx J.R. McKenzie. I'll try to that next time I run across some par/frm -Lav - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lavondyss" Subject: (fractint) thanx Date: 03 Mar 1998 13:21:53 George, Thanx for the explanation. It was somewhat drawn out, but I got what I asked for. I've been using Fractint for quite a while, but not very intuitive about converting the posted files into what Fractint can use. I know how to use Fractint, just not how to convert the e-mail ascii text files so that fractint can use it. Now I do. I like the 'one button functions' such as the ones you mentioned: 'z' 't' 'f6'...tc. I've downloaded the new program a long while back. Quite an innovative program. But since I'm going to college, I don't have much time to really get into fractals. But I try. I have over 30 pictures printed on my Epson on coated paper (gets kinda spendy after a while), and they are fantastic. I made most of them, using other people's formula files. I do not know how to make my own yet. Most are not posted on my web page yet. Haven't even added them to my par file yet either! I hope to soon though and then post my par on here if everyone likes.....as an attatchment, not an ascii text add-on to the message. That's just so that newbies can just save the attatchments instead of going through the hassle of changing and copying that I am going through. ^_^ Well, I've gotta get to studying some chemistry. ACK! But I'll be making more fractals when I have free time. I did however, find something interesting. The map maker by Ron Barnette can make maps for other programs too. I used the maps on my Winamp (mp3) player plug-in and it worked fine. Thanx again Ron! Outa here! Happy Fractineer ^_^ -Lavondyss - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ocie@paracel.com Subject: Re: (fractint) gravijul-v3 Date: 03 Mar 1998 11:32:43 -0800 (PST) Mark Christenson wrote: > > Seeing Sylvie's gravijul-v3 has reminded me of a question that > has been in the back of my mind for some time. I have a basic > understanding of complex math; mulitiplication is no problem, > but raising to fractional or complex powers is a total mystery > to me. Can anyone point me to a good tutorial? No need to bore > the whole list, please just send the URL or book/article title. But I like boring the whole list :) Actually, raising complex numbers to a fractional power is not as tricky as it sounds. A complex number in cartesian coordinates (ex 3+4i) can be converted into a polar form (magnitude=5, angle= ~.972 rad in this case). You can also write this in the form m*exp(i*t) where m is the magnitude and t is the angle theta. This is because exp(i*t)=cos(t)+i*sin(t). Raising this to any power (whole or fractional) can be done: z=m*exp(i*t) z^x=(m*exp(i*t))^x =m^x*exp(i*t*x) =m^x*(cos(t*x)+i*sin(t*x)) Raising a number to a complex power can be done by remembering that: z^(a+b)=z^a*z^b Now all we have to do is figure out how to raise a number to an imaginary power. I can't exactly remember how do to this right now. Perhaps someone else on the list will pick up the baton. Ocie - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) gravijul-v3 Date: 03 Mar 1998 12:03:23 -0800 Hi Ocie, Are you the Ocie Mitchell from Claremont Colleges and Harvey Mudd? Jay Hill ---------- > From: ocie@paracel.com > To: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (fractint) gravijul-v3 > Date: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 11:32 AM [...] > But I like boring the whole list :) > > Actually, raising complex numbers to a fractional power is not as > tricky as it sounds. A complex number in cartesian coordinates (ex > 3+4i) can be converted into a polar form (magnitude=5, angle= ~.972 > rad in this case). You can also write this in the form m*exp(i*t) > where m is the magnitude and t is the angle theta. This is because exp(i*t)=cos(t)+i*sin(t). > > Raising this to any power (whole or fractional) can be done: > > z=m*exp(i*t) > > z^x=(m*exp(i*t))^x > =m^x*exp(i*t*x) > =m^x*(cos(t*x)+i*sin(t*x)) > > Raising a number to a complex power can be done by remembering that: > > z^(a+b)=z^a*z^b > > Now all we have to do is figure out how to raise a number to an > imaginary power. I can't exactly remember how do to this right now. > Perhaps someone else on the list will pick up the baton. > > Ocie > - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ocie@paracel.com Subject: Re: (fractint) gravijul-v3 Date: 03 Mar 1998 13:21:00 -0800 (PST) Jay Hill wrote: > > Hi Ocie, > > Are you the Ocie Mitchell from Claremont Colleges and Harvey Mudd? > > Jay Hill I sure am. Actually, I am now an alum. Ocie - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ocie@paracel.com Subject: Re: (fractint) gravijul-v3 Date: 03 Mar 1998 14:40:15 -0800 (PST) ocie wrote: > > Mark Christenson wrote: > > > > Seeing Sylvie's gravijul-v3 has reminded me of a question that > > has been in the back of my mind for some time. I have a basic > > understanding of complex math; mulitiplication is no problem, > > but raising to fractional or complex powers is a total mystery > > to me. Can anyone point me to a good tutorial? No need to bore > > the whole list, please just send the URL or book/article title. > > But I like boring the whole list :) > > Actually, raising complex numbers to a fractional power is not as > tricky as it sounds. A complex number in cartesian coordinates (ex > 3+4i) can be converted into a polar form (magnitude=5, angle= ~.972 > rad in this case). You can also write this in the form m*exp(i*t) > where m is the magnitude and t is the angle theta. This is because exp(i*t)=cos(t)+i*sin(t). > > Raising this to any power (whole or fractional) can be done: > > z=m*exp(i*t) > > z^x=(m*exp(i*t))^x > =m^x*exp(i*t*x) > =m^x*(cos(t*x)+i*sin(t*x)) > > Raising a number to a complex power can be done by remembering that: > > z^(a+b)=z^a*z^b > > Now all we have to do is figure out how to raise a number to an > imaginary power. I can't exactly remember how do to this right now. > Perhaps someone else on the list will pick up the baton. I now remember how to do this as well. If l is the natural log of the magnitude, then the number can be written: z=exp(l+i*t) so z^w=exp(l+i*t)^w=exp((l+i*t)*w) So this just becomres a case of multiplying the complex exponent w by the log of z (l+i*t) and then exponentiating. Ah, this is a great discussion, I'll have to go out and get the latest fractint copy. Ocie - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) gravijul-v3 Date: 03 Mar 1998 17:15:39 -0800 Hi Ocie, It is good to see you posting again after so long. Now, about a week ago we were discussion ASCII Mandelbrot sets and I noted a few sources. One was you post to sci.fractals in 1993 (or there abouts). You posted a new version ftp://ftp.inria.fr/graphics/aamandel-2.1.shar.gz Now this, unlike your earlier version does not compile on my compiler - missing headers etc. So could you install a DOS executable on your web site? Since your first version is really portable, you might consider posting it as well. >Jay Hill wrote: >> >> Hi Ocie, >> >> Are you the Ocie Mitchell from Claremont Colleges and Harvey Mudd? >> >> Jay Hill >I sure am. Actually, I am now an alum. >Ocie - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ocie@paracel.com Subject: Re: (fractint) gravijul-v3 Date: 03 Mar 1998 17:43:13 -0800 (PST) Jay Hill wrote: > > > Hi Ocie, > > It is good to see you posting again after so long. Now, about a week ago > we were discussion ASCII Mandelbrot sets and I noted a few sources. > One was you post to sci.fractals in 1993 (or there abouts). You posted > a new version > > ftp://ftp.inria.fr/graphics/aamandel-2.1.shar.gz > Now this, unlike your earlier version does not compile on my compiler - > missing headers etc. So could you install a DOS executable on your web > site? > Since your first version is really portable, you might consider posting it > as well. My second version had an "interactive" mode which lets the user select the area to zoom into. I'll see if I can turn this off gracefully if there is no curses library. Don't know about a DOS executable, but I should be able to at least release sources that will compile under DOS. Ocie - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wizzle Subject: Re: (fractint) julias Date: 03 Mar 1998 19:51:41 -0800 Jay... Thanks so much for the explanations and samples!! I feel like you gave me a brand new wonderful toy to play with. I'm having such fun finding julias and minibrots.....I never realized they were there. One more question.....I figured out that zooming out takes me back to the mandelbrot set......and when I zoom out from the julia I can see the little "strings" along the mandelbrot set that contain the julias even at a fairly low magnification (like looking at a large portion of the "lake"). However, when I start with the mandelbrot set in fractint I never seem to see those strings no matter how much I zoom in. Why can't I see these strings when I start with the mandelbrot set and yet I can if I start with the julia I posted? Angela At 05:56 PM 3/2/98 -0800, you wrote: > >Wizzle wrote: >>p.s. I would dearly love to understand why this is a squarish type of >>julia....if the explanation isn't too terribly mathematical. >The Julia set image has to have all the features seen around the >parameter spot in the Mandelbrot set. So at lower magnification >in M we have the following (see par). This shows up first twice then >four times in M when we zoom in. And so it also does as we zoom >into the Julia. You chose a zoom that shows the four fold and so it >looks squarish. Try this par at all zooms into the midget. Then >press space twice and watch all zooms in the Julia. See the >same sort of 'stuff'. > >Jay > ><> - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dudley brooks Subject: (fractint) video driver question Date: 03 Mar 1998 21:05:44 -0800 i hope someone can help me as i have not had fractint for several weeks now.i had to replace my video card and installed a Diamond Speedstar 64 2000 graphics card.my computer is a ibm clone 486 66 mgz and i have fractint 19.5.i can only view fractals in the most primitive modes.i have always used the shift7 1024X780 video mode that works with most svga.i have no idea where to go from here to get this working.i have read the fractint documentation on video modes over and over but it is a little over my head for me to fool with i believe.has anyone had this problem or can anyone advise me of how to get the sharpest images possible with this video card?i have had fractint since version 16 and was one of the programs that amazed me and sparked my interest in the computer.i am just a lover of fine images and do not really know anyone else with an interest in fractint like i have.hope someone can help!!! - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) julias Date: 03 Mar 1998 20:36:23 -0800 Angela wrote Jay wrote: ->Try this par at all zooms into the midget. Then ->press space twice and watch all zooms in the Julia. See the ->same sort of 'stuff'. -Jay... -Thanks so much for the explanations and samples!! I feel like you gave -me a brand new wonderful toy to play with. I'm having such fun finding -julias and minibrots.....I never realized they were there. There are about 20,000 more posted on my web sites. Glad you are having fun. There is a lot to learn about the old Mandelbrot set. I've been spending uncounted hours (actually, I think my wife has been counting the hours) ever since I got my 8086 with CGA in the '80s. I used to figure 2 hours to make a nice 320x200 image. It now takes 2 seconds. -One more question.....I figured out that zooming out takes me back to the -mandelbrot set......and when I zoom out from the julia I can see the little -"strings" along the mandelbrot set that contain the julias even at a fairly "strings", that is an example of the 'stuff' mentioned above. Stuff in elephant valley looks like elephants. Stuff in seahorse valley looks like seahorses. Stuff near the base of the period 3 bud (big one on top) look like 3 armed galaxies. Julia sets with parameters set to these regions will have that look to them. -low magnification (like looking at a large portion of the "lake"). -However, when I start with the mandelbrot set in fractint I never seem to -see those strings no matter how much I zoom in. Why can't I see these -strings when I start with the mandelbrot set and yet I can if I start with -the julia I posted? And where do we find strings? Out on the spike, because it is the mother of all strings. These start showing up anywhere more negative than -1. Near -1.25 they are clumpy and are called scepters. Your example is out at -1.75 where strings are going strong. Twiggy strings are found near (-.134, 1) because that filament is - you guessed it - twiggy. Rumor has it that Dr. J is building new wings to his laboratory, new ones for each of these regions. Word is that he stepped into a particularly tangled mess of 'strings, barbed wire and quick sand'. I'm too busy running tests at work tonight to look after him. He is on his own. :-) Jay - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) gravijul-v3 Date: 03 Mar 1998 21:47:13 -0800 um......oh, I do have a life. Um, I do do something besides this, really. newgrav1 { ; 3-2-98 kathy roth ; gravijul-v3 variation by Sylvie Gallet ;on Mark Christenson's gravijul formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gravij~3.frm formulaname=gravijul-v3 function=cosxx/flip/floor center-mag=+0.00024059026236537/+0.00002279441750243/137.0464/1.0397 params=1.1/3/0.9999999000000001/0/10/0 invert=0.01/0/0 decomp=2048 colors=000YRD<7>pgTriVulYxn_zpa<4>jdWgaVcZT\ `WSYUR<3>KJNHGMGFL<10>7246027\ 02<20>Q08R09S09T0AU0A<6>`0Da0Db2D\ <14>zVF<10>hAEaI9<6>xTF<8>H3AC09908<6>K\ BDMDEMFF<2>MMI000<16>C81D92FB3<2>\ LG4OI5QK7<12>vlYxn_yo`zpawn_ukY<16>bVH0\ 00<22>000000223<5>HHNKKQNNTQQXTT_<6>ilploslpr<14>OI5<2>VPB } newgrav2 { ; 3-2-98 kathy roth ; gravijul-v3 variation by Sylvie Gallet ;on Mark Christenson's gravijul formula ; best at least 800x600 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gravij~3.frm formulaname=gravijul-v3 function=cosxx/cos/cotan passes=t center-mag=-0.00360393/0.00010278/7.524472/1.0397 params=1.1/3/0.9999999000000001/0/10/0 invert=0.01/0/0 decomp=2048 colors=000<23>000000223<5>HHNKKQNNTQQXTT_\ <6>ilploslpr<14>OI5<11>pgTriVul\ Yxn_zpa<4>jdWgaVcZT`WSYUR<3>KJNHGMGFL\ <10>724602702<20>Q08R09S09T0AU0A<6>\ `0Da0Db2D<14>zVF<10>hAEaI9<6>xTF<8>H3AC09908\ <6>KBDMDEMFF<2>MMI000<16>C81\ D92FB3<2>LG4OI5QK7<12>vlYxn_yo`zpawn_ukY<16>bVH } newgrav3 { ; 3-2-98 kathy roth ; architect's draft for newgrav2 ; gravijul-v3 variation by Sylvie Gallet ; on Mark Christenson's gravijul formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gravij~3.frm formulaname=gravijul-v3 function=cosxx/cos/cotan passes=t center-mag=-0.00360393/0.00010278/7.524472/1.0397 params=1.1/3/0.9999999000000001/0/10/0 fillcolor=66 invert=0.01/0/0 decomp=2048 colors=000<23>000000223<5>HHNKKQNNTQQXTT\ _<6>ilploslpr<14>OI5<11>pgTriVul\ Yxn_zpa<4>jdWgaVcZT`WSYUR<3>KJNHGMGFL\ <10>724602702<20>Q08R09S09T0AU0A<6>\ `0Da0Db2D<14>zVF<10>hAEaI9<6>xTF<8>H3A\ C09908<6>KBDMDEMFF<2>MMI000<16>C81\ D92FB3<2>LG4OI5QK7<12>vlYxn_yo`zpawn_ukY<16>bVH } newgrav4 { ; 3-2-98 kathy roth ; palette by Sylvie Gallet ; gravijul-v3 variation by Sylvie Gallet ; on Mark Christenson's gravijul formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gravij~3.frm formulaname=gravijul-v3 function=cosxx/cos/flip passes=t center-mag=-0.00793577/0.00836294/6.244929/1.0397 params=1.1/3/0.9999999000000001/0/10/0 invert=0.01/0/0 decomp=2048 colors=000ZdiZdi_eh<15>wwm<15>0mm<7>8eb9da9da\ <12>1VQ0UP1UP<11>GaPHaPIbPK\ cPKcQLdR<19>bvkcwmbvl<27>4T53S42R20P00P\ 10P2<20>AZTAZUD_S<13>st4000kkk00U\ <13>Ums<5>hrw<4>eoudntcmtblsbksajr<15>\ PYjOXiOXiOXi<4>RYiRYiRYiRYiSZi<24>\ Zdi } newgrav5 { ; 3-2-98 kathy roth ; gravijul-v3 variation by Sylvie Gallet ; on Mark Christenson's gravijul formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gravij~3.frm formulaname=gravijul-v2 function=atanh/sqrt/recip passes=t center-mag=1.77636e-015/-1.77636e-015/0.09696078 params=1/0.9/0/0/4/0 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 decomp=256 colors=000LSXGO`CLd<7>Ums<5>hrwhrwgqv<31>\ OOlNNlOOl<45>wwm<15>0mm<7>8eb9d\ a9da<12>1VQ0UP1UP<11>GaPHaPIbPKcPKcQLdR\ <19>bvkcwmbvl<30>MS2LR0MS0<36>st4\ <5>TZQ } newgrav6 { ; 3-2-98 kathy roth ; gravijul-v3 variation by Sylvie Gallet ; on Mark Christenson's gravijul formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gravij~3.frm formulaname=gravijul-v3 function=cosxx/flip/sinh center-mag=+0.00024059026236537/+0.00002279441750243/137.0464/1.0397 params=1.1/3/0.9999999000000001/0/10/0 invert=0.01/0/0 decomp=2048 colors=000YRD<7>pgTriVulYxn_zpa<4>jdWgaVc\ ZT`WSYUR<3>KJNHGMGFL<10>7246027\ 02<20>Q08R09S09T0AU0A<6>`0Da0Db2D\ <14>zVF<10>hAEaI9<6>xTF<8>H3AC09908<6>K\ BDMDEMFF<2>MMI000<16>C81D92FB3<2>\ LG4OI5QK7<12>vlYxn_yo`zpawn_ukY<16>bVH0\ 00<22>000000223<5>HHNKKQNNTQQXTT_<6>\ ilploslpr<14>OI5<2>VPB } gravijul-v3 { ; Variation on Mark Christenson's gravijul by Sylvie Gallet z = pixel: w = fn1(z) z = fn3(fn2(w*w)^p1) + p2 |z| < p3 } gravijul-v2 { ; Variation on Mark Christenson's gravijul by Sylvie\ Gallet z = pixel : w = fn1(real(z)) , x = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) w = fn1(imag(z)) , y = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) z = x + flip(y) + p2 |z| < p3 } - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) thank you, thank you etc. Date: 03 Mar 1998 22:13:20 -0800 Maybe there should be an award, like "Fractal of the Year" or a grammy or a Bammie or something. I nominate Mark Christenson for "gravijul". - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) thank you, thank you etc. Date: 03 Mar 1998 23:49:06 -0800 comment { commentary and pars by Bud 3/3/98 At 10:13 PM 3/3/98 -0800, Kathy wrote: >Maybe there should be an award, like "Fractal of the Year" >or a grammy or a Bammie or something. I nominate >Mark Christenson for "gravijul". Thanks for the praise, but the year is *very* young. And the competition is stiff. One of the great things about this list is the way it enables collaboration and cross-fertilization at light speed; I know it has made *me* a better fractal artist. I haven't had time to explore Sylvie's gravijul-v3 yet; and while v2 seems a bit less fertile than the original, its potential for unusual structures (especially periodic "tiles") is really stunning. Here's another v2; it's basically "Internal Reflections" on steriods, with a precious metal finish. This color map (called "sil&gold") and the one I used for "I.R." (called "circus") are two of my new faves for decomposition images (I'm also on a decomp jag, as you may have noticed). Hard to believe I got along for 10 years with only one option, color=iter (it was all I ever built into my programs). Note: Both images/maps are also great for color cycling! Bud } gjv2-04b { ; gjv2-04a in silver & gold, (c) Bud 3/2/98 - cycle me, please! ; frm gjv2 by Sylvie Gallet reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=filist.frm formulaname=gravijul-v2 function=sin/log/acosh passes=t center-mag=0/0.78/0.426 params=0/1.2/0/0/20/0 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 decomp=256 colors=200<30>z00<30>200000111<30>sss<30>222000012<30>0kz<30>022000211<3\ 0>zsX<31>000 cyclerange=0/255 } frm:gravijul-v2 { ; Variation on Mark Christenson's gravijul by Sylvie Gallet z = pixel : w = fn1(real(z)) , x = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) w = fn1(imag(z)) , y = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) z = x + flip(y) + p2 |z| < p3 } - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) thank you, thank you etc. Date: 03 Mar 1998 23:58:14 -0800 I wrote: > Here's another v2; it's basically "Internal Reflections" on *steroids*, not steriods. I'm careless, not illiterate. Bud - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: (fractint) Re: complex powers Date: 04 Mar 1998 00:12:20 -0800 Ocie - Thanks for the run-down. Guess I gotta shake out the cobwebs. It all made sense, but things like coordinate system conversions and identities are quite foreign now, having not been used since college (cripes, 1979?!?). I'm pretty certain I couldn't do integration by parts or substitution to save my life. Bud - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wizzle Subject: (fractint) minibrot question Date: 04 Mar 1998 07:50:52 -0800 How come if I start with the julia formula I can't find any mini-brots no matter how much I zoom.......if I start with a mandelbrot with "stuff" (those strings....which I still don't know where they come from).....I don't have any trouble finding lots of minibrots among the julias on the "stuff". Where did the mandelbrot with "stuff" come from to begin with? And how do the coordinates work? Is the middle of my screen ground zero in the mandlebrot? Up and to the right is plus.....down and to the left is minus? Can I input coordinates somewhere? Angela aka wizzle - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wizzle Subject: Re: (fractint) thank you, thank you etc. Date: 04 Mar 1998 07:56:29 -0800 Bud writes.... >Here's another v2; it's basically "Internal Reflections" on steriods, >with a precious metal finish. This color map (called "sil&gold") and >the one I used for "I.R." (called "circus") are two of my new faves >for decomposition images (I'm also on a decomp jag, as you may >have noticed). Hard to believe I got along for 10 years with only one >option, color=iter (it was all I ever built into my programs). >Note: Both images/maps are also great for color cycling! > > >Bud > Bud....the sil&gold map is truly excellent and I love what it did to your image. I thought the original lovely in a "painterly" sort of way. This new variation has such a different feel....much more 3 dimensional. I've had a wonderful time with all the gravijul variations. For some reason, crosses and mandalas keep coming up for me.....must be a "sign" that I need to update my gallery for Easter/Vernal Equinox. Thanks you so much Buc and Sylvie. Angela aka wizzle - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Sadoc Subject: (fractint) Feigenbaum number Date: 04 Mar 1998 16:17:33 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------45B3F0F2189 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! As I had an expecial interest in the Bifurcation Fractal and the Bifurcation Lambda, I got contact with the Feigenbaum number, which is good covered at the address below: http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~berland/math/feigenbaum/index.html Some days ago, however, I've found a little and "simple" program that calculates the Feigenbaum number. Although I've understood how the Feigenbaum number is calculated based on the Bifurcation Fractal design, I've passed many days trying to compreend how this program works, but I couldn't... So, I would like to ask if someone can help me to understand the logic of this code that I've attached to this message. Thanks in advance, Daniel Sadoc --------------45B3F0F2189 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="FEIGENBM.PAS" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="FEIGENBM.PAS" {$N+} program feigenbm; uses CRT; var x,lambda,f,step_size,old_x,test,lambda_1,lambda_2,delta, init_step,old_lambda,new_step,old_step: extended; i,iterations: longint; j,sign: integer; begin ClrScr; lambda := 3.0; Writeln('n Lambda Delta'); init_step := 1; for j:=1 to 19 do begin if j mod 2 = 0 then sign := -1 else sign := 1; GotoXY(0,15+j); init_step := init_step/4.67; step_size := init_step; iterations := 2; for i:=1 to j-1 do iterations := iterations*2; old_x := 0.5; lambda := lambda + step_size; repeat x := old_x; for i:=0 to iterations-1 do x := lambda*x*(1-x); { x := x * r * (1-x) } test := (x - old_x)*sign; if test < 0 then begin lambda := lambda - step_size; step_size := step_size/2; end; old_lambda := lambda; lambda := lambda + step_size; GotoXY(1,j+3); write(j:2,' ',lambda:20:18,' '); until old_lambda >= lambda; if j > 2 then begin delta := (lambda_1 - lambda_2)/(lambda - lambda_1); write(delta:20:18); end; lambda_2 := lambda_1; lambda_1 := lambda; end; end. --------------45B3F0F2189-- - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Sadoc Subject: (fractint) New WinFract User Date: 04 Mar 1998 16:16:03 -0800 Hi! I've bought the book Fractals for Windows (from Wegner, Peterson, Tyler and Branderhorst), here where I live, in Brazil, and since than I'm very interested in fractals. I've just got some experience with the WinFract, which I really appreciated. I've been reading some very interesting messages from this mail-list, and now I have a question, which I've sent in the following e-mail. I expect that I can contribute to the growing of this list. Sincerily Yours, Daniel Sadoc - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Sadoc Subject: (fractint) Especial Date: 04 Mar 1998 16:25:09 -0800 Hi! I'm sorry by the English faults! I've just seen I had written "expecial", in the last e-mail, when I was trying to say "special"... Although the English errors, I hope everyboy had understood my question... Waiting for reply, Daniel Sadoc - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Gavin" Subject: (fractint) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:52:02 -0500 Date: 04 Mar 1998 12:52:13 -0700 I've been totally unable to get diskvideo to work in batch mode, short of making another fractint.cfg containing only the diskvideo mode I want. Could someone tell me how I can continue an image I started in regulr 1024x768 graphics mode in 1024x768 diskvideo mode, without modifying my sstools.ini and fractint.cfg? Thanks, Pete - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) minibrot question Date: 04 Mar 1998 12:28:41 -0800 Hi wizzle, The Mandelbrot set is a Map of the Julia sets for the iteration equation, any iteration equation. It is showing us the convergence or divergence results we shall see (an image of results vs. c) if we make a Julia set. The Julia set image shows us the convergence or divergence using different initial z0 values. If we want to see midgets in the Mandelbrot map, we must use z0 = a critical point. That is why we use z0=0 for the classic MSet. Given that we use z0=critical point, we will see some midgets (depending on the iteration formula). In the classic MSet, all the midgets are connected by smaller midgets and other 'points'. These are the filaments. The pretty stuff we see are there because there are midgets all lined up in some organized pattern. Now the Julia set explicitly avoids the critical points (except for a few samples in the z0 plain that happen to be critical points). So you don't see midgets. If c (the parameter for the Julia set) is in a solid part of the corresponding Mandelbrot map, we shall see solid parts (non- divergent) in the Julia set. Why? Because where that z0=critical point is, there at least, the iteration does not diverge. (It is in a solid part of the MSet and so it must be a solid part of JSet. It is after all the one point belonging to both.) If this point is well inside a solid component of the MSet, like in a bud, then for some region around it in the JSet we shall see it is solid (non-divergent). If the point is not in or next to a MSet component, the point diverges and none of the JSet has a chance of converging. The JSet has no solid parts. If you put c in the 'center' of a midget's cardioid, there will be a circular solid spot in the center of the Julia (at the critical point). If c is in a bud center, there will be several solid parts in JSet corresponding in a sense to the period of the orbits. Hope this helps, Jay PS more below... ---------- > From: Wizzle > To: Fractint@xmission.com > Subject: (fractint) minibrot question > Date: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 7:50 AM > > How come if I start with the julia formula I can't find any mini-brots no > matter how much I zoom.......if I start with a mandelbrot with "stuff" > (those strings....which I still don't know where they come from).....I > don't have any trouble finding lots of minibrots among the julias on the > "stuff". see above > > Where did the mandelbrot with "stuff" come from to begin with? And how do > the coordinates work? The coordinates are the complex number plain. If there is a rotation or skewing then it gets messed up (but prettier for an image). > Is the middle of my screen ground zero in the > mandlebrot? Press 'z' and 'F6' to see the coordinates of the screen center. >Up and to the right is plus.....down and to the left is minus? Yes. > Can I input coordinates somewhere? Yes. In the 'z' F6 screen you can change center and zoom, etc. > > Angela aka wizzle - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) Especial Date: 04 Mar 1998 13:34:12 -0800 Your English is fine! Much better than my Portuguese. - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) (Fwd) Fix needed for F-tint 20 Date: 04 Mar 1998 18:06:58 -0500 This is a MIME-encapsulated message --d1dea504-b3b2-11d1-a106-00805feaacd2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi Tim, >> Can anyone else duplicate this problem? With Bob's permission I am = >> posting some mail he sent me privately. >> I discovered that when I had somewhere around 150 formulas, the >> formula names listed on the selection menu would run up against each >> other like this: formula1formula2formula3 etc. You can duplicate it with the formula file attached. Just change the name of the first formula. The bug appears when the formula name has 4, 5, 7, 9, 12, 15 chars. In= all of these cases, (mumber of chars + 1) * number of colums =3D 78 or 80= =2E Cheers, - Sylvie --d1dea504-b3b2-11d1-a106-00805feaacd2 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="FNAMEBUG.ZIP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="FNAMEBUG.ZIP" UEsDBBQAAgAIABO+ZCSII8OESQEAALAEAAAMAAAAZm5hbWVidWcuZnJtPdRLjuQgFAXReUq5h1oC lz9rK9XeWyKCnjx7wpGNA38/qa2PufYpqT/c/vz+fT/fT+613tnu7HeOO+ed605WnDtTuLA6LA/r AxCEQAQjIEGpKNVnQKkoFaWiVJSKUlEqSkNpKM1XQWkoDaWhNJSG0lA6SkfpKN0dQekoHaWjdJSO MlAGykAZKMONRRkoA2WgDJSJMlEmykSZKNPvgzJRJspEWSgLZaEslIWyUJafGcU0FspG2SgbZaNs lI2yUba1oGyUg3JQDspBOSgH5aAclGN0rzqzK3ZXDK9YXjG9YnvF+Ir1FfMrev8z1nshv5Jfyq/l F/Or+eVszzHo1Hcu9Gw6Rh2rjlnHrmPYseyYdmw77R00PfOOfcfAY+Ex8dh4jDxWHjNPfydXz9Jj 6rH1GHusPeYee4/Bx+Iz3q9Az+hj9TH72H0M/x9QSwECFAAUAAIACAATvmQkiCPDhEkBAACwBAAA DAAAAAAAAAABACAAtoEAAAAAZm5hbWVidWcuZnJtUEsFBgAAAAABAAEAOgAAAHMBAAAAAA== --d1dea504-b3b2-11d1-a106-00805feaacd2-- - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alexandre de C. Borges" Subject: (fractint) Fractais in Brazil Date: 04 Mar 1998 00:18:24 -0300 >Hi! > > I've bought the book Fractals for Windows (from Wegner, Peterson, Tyler and Branderhorst), here where I live, in Brazil, and since than I'm very interested in fractals. I've just got some experience with the WinFract, which I really appreciated. > > I've been reading some very interesting messages from this mail-list, and now I have a question, which I've sent in the following e-mail. > > I expect that I can contribute to the growing of this list. > >Sincerily Yours, >Daniel Sadoc Hello!!! Brazil ??? Eh um prazer ver alguem da terra brazilis aqui na lista :-) Eu tambem sou do Brazil companheiro Opa, opa...os americanso nao devem estar entendendo nada do que escrevi aqui... ja fui, abracos _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ Alexandre de C. Borges _/ _/ borges@cpunet.com.br _/ _/ unificator@yahoo.com _/ _/ ICQ UIN: 3236595 _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wizzle Subject: Re: (fractint) New WinFract User Date: 04 Mar 1998 18:41:53 -0800 Hi Daniel!! Welcome to the list and I'm wishing you a lot of fun with fractint and fractals. Angela aka wizzle At 04:16 PM 3/4/98 -0800, you wrote: >Hi! > > I've bought the book Fractals for Windows (from Wegner, Peterson, Tyler and Branderhorst), here where I live, in Brazil, and since than I'm very interested in fractals. I've just got some experience with the WinFract, which I really appreciated. > > I've been reading some very interesting messages from this mail-list, and now I have a question, which I've sent in the following e-mail. > > I expect that I can contribute to the growing of this list. > >Sincerily Yours, >Daniel Sadoc > > > >- >------------------------------------------------------------ >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > > - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: (fractint) gravijul-v2 Date: 04 Mar 1998 18:50:10 -0800 comment { commentary and pars by Mark "Bud" Christenson 3/4/98 Having played around with Sylvie's gravijul-v2 some more, I now am totally in awe. I have about 30 images, and the hardest part is coming up with titles. Here are four (you should be thankful I don't dump more), all rendered in sil&gold.map. Hey, it works for me! Bud } gjv2-0g { ; "Flag of the Fractal Republic", (c) Bud 3/4/98 ; frm gjv2 by Sylvie Gallet reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=filist.frm formulaname=gravijul-v2 function=ident/cos/asin passes=t center-mag=1.79334/-1.03319/0.4381 params=0.25/1.5/-0.1/-0.1/6/0 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 decomp=256 colors=000<31>zsX<31>000<31>z00<31>000<8>FFFHHHJJJLLLMMMOOO<17>sss<30>22\ 2000012<30>0kz<30>022 cyclerange=0/255 } gjv2-0h { ; "Megaplaid", (c) Bud 3/4/98 ; frm gjv2 by Sylvie Gallet reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=filist.frm formulaname=gravijul-v2 function=tan/acos/acos passes=t center-mag=1.79334/-1.03319/0.4381 params=0/1/-0.15/0/2/0 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 decomp=256 colors=000<31>zsX<31>000<31>z00<31>000<8>FFFHHHJJJLLLMMMOOO<17>sss<30>22\ 2000012<30>0kz<30>022 cyclerange=0/255 } gjv2-0o { ; "Armor of God", (c) Bud 3/4/98 ; frm gjv2 by Sylvie Gallet reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=filist.frm formulaname=gravijul-v2 function=cotan/recip/atan passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.2074689 params=0/2/0.5/0.5/1/0 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 decomp=256 colors=000<31>zsX<31>000<31>z00<31>000<8>FFFHHHJJJLLLMMMOOO<17>sss<30>22\ 2000012<30>0kz<30>022 cyclerange=0/255 } gjv2-0r { ; "Puffy Plaid", (c) Bud 3/4/98 - quasi-periodic tile ; frm gjv2 by Sylvie Gallet reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=filist.frm formulaname=gravijul-v2 function=cos/acos/asinh passes=t center-mag=-2.66454e-015/1.77636e-015/0.32 params=0/1/0/0/2/0 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 decomp=256 colors=000<31>zsX<31>000<31>z00<31>000<8>FFFHHHJJJLLLMMMOOO<17>sss<30>22\ 2000012<30>0kz<30>022 cyclerange=0/255 } frm:gravijul-v2 { ; Variation on Mark Christenson's gravijul by Sylvie Gallet z = pixel : w = fn1(real(z)) , x = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) w = fn1(imag(z)) , y = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) z = x + flip(y) + p2 |z| < p3 } - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: (fractint) Two Fractint questions Date: 04 Mar 1998 18:55:27 -0800 Hi folks, I have two questions. Question 1: I have a formula which is axis symmetric so this should work... frm:Colorit1234 (XAXIS){ But it does not, the images computes top to bottom BUT if it is put this in the par file outside=summ symmetry=xaxis periodicity=0 the images draws from top/bottom to the center - twice as fast. Why does the frm version not work? Also, if it did work, and I used inverse, the symmetry would go away. How would the formula know I had a non-symmetric image from a basically symmetric formula? So is it ever a good idea to try to get the formula to have a working symmetry instruction? Oooops, that is more than one question..... Example from Fractal of the Night http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/FotN/FotN60.html frm:3telescope (XAXIS){ ; (c) Jay Hill, 1998 ; use outside=summ periodicity=0 done = 1, z = 0, zc = 0, c = pixel s=|c|, t1=(256*s - 96)*s + 32*Real(c), t2=16*s + 32*Real(c) + 16 B=sqrt(-4*c-7), t3=|8+4*c*(1-B)|, t4=|8+4*c*(1+B)| ; component tests z=z + 249*(t1<=3) + 250*(t2<=1) + 251*(t3<=1) + 252*(t4<=1) ; set colors if(z>0) ; for periods 1, 2, 3. done=-1 ; color is set for c in a component, skip iterations endif : ; initialization. zc=sqr(zc) + c ; standard MSet iteration if (|zc| >= 4) ; Bailout at 4 done=-1 ; Set flag to force an exit. endif done >= 0 ; Continue if the flag >=0. } Normal_MSet123t { ; (C) Jay Hill, 1998 ; uses tests for components periods 1, 2, 3 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=Colorit4x.par formulaname=3telescope center-mag=-0.75/0/0.6666667 float=y maxiter=256 inside=249 outside=summ periodicity=0 ;symmetry=xaxis colors=000UcmFKcADU<6>24U02U02W<7\ >06g06i06j06l06n<5>19u2Aw4Bv<11>WYgZ_f`\ aecccddbee`<10>ssGttEuuCwwAwwAwvA<28>\ wdLwcMwcMwcM<90>wvuwvvwvvwwwwwvwwu<\ 51>ee5eKwKdwUUwZF5KUAc0KwwcwwweeLLLC } Question 2: Is i=sqrt(-1) a constant in Fractint. It looks like it is not. Should it be in a later release? Jay PS It looks like questions can be fractal, that is, upon closer look they are more than one question! - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Carlson-Gallet formula Date: 04 Mar 1998 21:08:28 -0600 (CST) A couple days ago I sent this formula and the first par to Sylvie because I wasn't satisfied with the colormap I was using and I wanted to see what the image would look like after Sylvie worked her magic on it. Sylvie not only sent back five colormaps but also added several optimizations to the formula. Not wanting Sylvie's other four colormaps to go unused, I've included four more pars that zoom into different areas. Paul Carlson frm:Newt3_Atan_Mset {; Original formula by Paul Carlson ; with optimizations by Sylvie Gallet ; F(w) = w^3 + (c - 1) * w - c ; F'(w) = 3 * w^2 + c - 1 ; F''(w) = 6 * w, so initialize w to zero ; ; p1 contols the "layering" ; c = pixel , c1 = c - 1 z = iter = bailout = prev_w = w = 0 colors_in_range = 80 colors_in_range_1 = 79 k = 0.5 * sqrt(1 - 4 * c) root1 = (1,0) root2 = -0.5 + k root3 = -0.5 - k : ; w2 = w * w w = w - (w * (w2 + c1) - c) / (3 * w2 + c1) ; delta_w = w - prev_w IF (|delta_w| < p1) angle = atan(imag(delta_w) / real(delta_w)) IF (delta_w >= 0) IF (imag(delta_w) < 0) angle = pi + angle ELSE angle = pi - angle ENDIF ELSEIF (imag(delta_w) > 0) angle = -angle ENDIF IF (|w - root1| < p1) range_num = 0 ELSEIF (|w - root2| < p1) range_num = 1 ELSEIF (|w - root3| < p1) range_num = 2 ENDIF bailout = 1 z = colors_in_range_1*angle/pi+range_num*colors_in_range+1 ENDIF prev_w = w iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 } n3atnm01 { ; Parameters, coordinates by Paul Carlson ; Colormap by Sylvie Gallet reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=n3atnm.frm formulaname=Newt3_Atan_Mset passes=t center-mag=+0.31671548334072320/+0.00018531398540474/60613\ 3.4/1/-157.5 params=0.05/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zzz<78>FFFwzw<19>djfciebhdbhdagc`gc<2>_eaZd`Yc_Xc\ _XbZ<4>T_WSZVSZVSZV<10>PWRPVQPVQOUPOUP<5>LRKKQKKQJJPJJPI<7>E\ IBEIADH9CH8BG7BG6AF5EF0<30>`XJaYKaYKaYL<28>nj_nj_ok`ola<12>x\ uk669000<12>000 } n3atnm02 { ; Parameters, coordinates by Paul Carlson ; Colormap by Sylvie Gallet reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=n3atnm.frm formulaname=Newt3_Atan_Mset passes=t center-mag=-0.29314992560658230/+1.76018641725339800/1124.20\ 9/1/-90 params=0.05/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=855wwp<27>piPpiOohMngL<13>fU7eT6eS5eS5<29>O31N20O41N20\ <8>P62Q72Q72R82R82<16>gQ5hR5iS4<3>mW3nX2nX2nY2<6>rc0rc0rb0<4>\ pZ1pY1oX2nX2<11>aL4`K4ZI3<7>P50CA6<78>tts000<10>J33P84P73O52 } n3atnm03 { ; Parameters, coordinates by Paul Carlson ; Colormap by Sylvie Gallet reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=n3atnm.frm formulaname=Newt3_Atan_Mset passes=t center-mag=+0.42728883711880160/+0.00000000000000012/8.598042\ e+008/1/-90 params=0.05/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=111zll<29>lKUkJTkJTjJS<45>A05www<78>ADIADIBEJ<77>www000\ 987<10>111zmmzmm } n3atnm04 { ; Parameters, coordinates by Paul Carlson ; Colormap by Sylvie Gallet reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=n3atnm.frm formulaname=Newt3_Atan_Mset passes=t center-mag=+0.73440407174529280/-0.00000000000000085/34056.5\ 8/1/-90 params=0.05/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=442zzn<29>voTunSunStmS<45>VNAxxn<30>imbimbhlagla<44>DN\ Dxxn<30>imbimbhlagla<44>DND000<13>000 } n3atnm05 { ; Parameters, coordinates by Paul Carlson ; Colormap by Sylvie Gallet reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=n3atnm.frm formulaname=Newt3_Atan_Mset passes=t center-mag=1.08545/0.200391/70.33726/1/16.299 params=0.05/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=038rrz<78>HJSvvy<78>QHIQHIQIJ<77>vvy000<13>000 } - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: (fractint) anybody try simplgif? Date: 04 Mar 1998 21:37:58 -0600 A while ago I mentioned that a new version of simplgif is available at: ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/simplgif.zip This utility combines the images in multiple-image GIFs created with Fractint's "divide-and-conquer" mode. Just curious, is it bug free or have folks just not gotten around to trying it? I'll tell you a secret if you promise not to tell. If you add the -i option to the simplgif command line before the filename arguments, it will produce an interlaced file. But no, Fractint doesn't read interlaced files correctly yet Tim - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chessiecat@juno.com (C C) Subject: (fractint) Fractint crashes Windows Explorer Date: 04 Mar 1998 19:47:15 -0500 I have Fractint working successfully on a PII 233. However, about 75% of the time when I exit Fractint (after using it in full-screen DOS mode) I at once get a message that Windows Explorer crashed, and glitches appear on the desktop. I can still do things, and don't have to reboot, so this isn't a crisis, but it is a bit of a pain.--Alice _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractais in Brazil Date: 05 Mar 1998 00:00:04 -0600 Daniel Sadoc wrote: > > Hi! > .....(snipped)..... > I expect that I can contribute to the growing of this list. > Welcome to the list. Alexandre de C. Borges wrote: > > Eh um prazer ver alguem da terra brazilis aqui na lista :-) > I'm sure it is a pleasure to see someone from one's own area on the list. > > Eu tambem sou do Brazil companheiro > With you two from Brazil, I wonder about all the others on the list (in which country they reside). > > Opa, opa...os americanso nao devem estar entendendo nada > do que escrevi aqui... > It's easy for us English speaking people to understand what you wrote here, just use the following URL to translate the language: http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/ P.S. for Douglas Adams fans, notice the url name. Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/PNL_Fractals.html - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractais in Brazil Date: 04 Mar 1998 22:20:37 -0800 Paul Lee wrote: >just use the following URL to translate the language: > http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/ >>Opa, opa...os americanso nao devem estar entendendo nada do que escrevi >> aqui In English: Opa, opa... americanso nao must be understanding nothing of that I wrote here :-) :-) :-) Thanks Paul, Now if they just had C++ to English, Advanced Math to English, or even better: English to Fractint frm, English to Fractint par, English to Fractint map .... Jay - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractais in Brazil Date: 05 Mar 1998 01:32:09 -0500 Paul N Lee wrote: > With you two from Brazil, I wonder about all the others on the list (in > which country they reside). Kivancsi vagyok, hogy vannak e magyarok? Gedeon - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jan Vyvey" Subject: Re: (fractint) anybody try simplgif? Date: 05 Mar 1998 12:12:22 +0100 At 21:37 4/03/98 -0600, you wrote: >A while ago I mentioned that a new version of simplgif is available >at: > >ftp://ftp.phoenix.net/pub/USERS/twegner/simplgif.zip > >This utility combines the images in multiple-image GIFs created with >Fractint's "divide-and-conquer" mode. > >Just curious, is it bug free or have folks just not gotten around to >trying it? I'll tell you a secret if you promise not to tell. If >you add the -i option to the simplgif command line before the >filename arguments, it will produce an interlaced file. But no, >Fractint doesn't read interlaced files correctly yet > >Tim > Tim, I tried the simplgif.exe file and it seems to work fine. I only have one remark. I'm missing the line counter (present in the previous version) at the end of the program (after constructing all the partial images into the final file) so I don't know what progress the program is making at that point. It's very useful when making HUGE gif files. Jan - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Hine" Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractais in ???? Date: 05 Mar 1998 06:51:33 -0500 Gedeon asks: >Kivancsi vagyok, hogy vannak e magyarok? Hmmm... from somewhere on the greater Asian continent? This is definitely tougher than Spanish to guess at! Jason - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: aq936@freenet.carleton.ca (Michael Traynor) Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractais in ???? Date: 05 Mar 1998 07:25:15 -0500 (EST) >Gedeon asks: >>Kivancsi vagyok, hogy vannak e magyarok? ^^^^^^^^ My guess is he's asking if there are any speakers/writers of Hungarian here. > >Hmmm... from somewhere on the greater Asian continent? This is definitely >tougher than Spanish to guess at! >Jason -- Mike Traynor People who like this sort of thing will find this the sort of thing they like. Abraham Lincoln - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractais in ???? Date: 05 Mar 1998 09:50:24 -0500 Michael Traynor wrote: > >Gedeon asks: > >>Kivancsi vagyok, hogy vannak e magyarok? > ^^^^^^^^ > My guess is he's asking if there are any speakers/writers of Hungarian > here. Excellent guess! Right on the money! You didn't do this with babelfish, did you? Jason Hine wrote: > Hmmm... from somewhere on the greater Asian continent? In a manner of speaking. Left Asia 1,100 years ago. My apologies for this off-topic digression. Here are some pars based on Kerry Mitchell's great formulas. Due to their length I am not posting the formulas. If you don't have the formulas already, you should definitely get them Gedeon bbj-02 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, 2/98 ; Formula by Kerry Mitchell reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=bubbleboth_jul passes=1 center-mag=-0.0420196/0.126141/14.74139 params=0.30875/0.57/4/0.185/0.5/0.5 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=DVu<4>Hcz<23>00c`D1<14>yMMzNNyNM<13>`D10Wz\ <37>y1zz0zy0z<23>OKzMKzKLzJLzIMz<14>2Vz0Wz1ZJ<25>\ 0yt0zu0yt<21>1bOw0U<24>xPM<13>w0U00000c<15>CTt } f2j-02 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, 2/98 ; Formula by Kerry Mitchell ; Wizzle burgold1 map reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=field2_jul passes=1 center-mag=0.550744/-0.0240423/4.349453/1/-27.5 params=-0.76/0.127/10000000000/2 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=WQF<17>ukTwmUwmU<45>G66F55D55<4>00A<36>\ pptrrvqqu<33>77I55G33G00F<8>A0AB09C08E17F17<22>\ h1Ij1Jk1Jm0Kl0K<26>L0A000K09<4>F07F07E07E07D16<10>8\ 44753863<14>UPF } f2j-05 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, 2/98 ; Formula by Kerry Mitchell reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=field2_jul passes=1 center-mag=-0.386693/0.274151/3.12888 params=-0.5845/0.4926/10000000000/0 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=00l<46>002000000000000<29>00k00m01m<29>\ 0ky0mz1mz<30>zzz<46>2zz0zz0yz<45>02z00z00y<11>00m } f3j-01 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, 2/98 ; Formula by Kerry Mitchell reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=field3_jul passes=1 center-mag=0.493526/-0.0707154/4.874544 params=-0.7874/0.1645/1215752192/1 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=4IJ4GH3DE2BB<3>145123123<4>124124125136<29>\ 0GT0HU0IW<11>0Mo0Nq2Or<2>3Pr3Pr4Qs5Rs<20>2NP2NO1MM1LL\ <9>199188188<3>177177166155<5>022022110111113166335\ <18>Y`f_bi`bjabjbck<9>DKMAIJ8HH6FF<3>5DD5DD5DD5DD5CC\ <3>4AA4A94A9499<4>378267267266256<6>114030004<29>1Tr\ <10>fhwjjxllz<14>6VW<3>5LM cyclerange=0/255 } ntj-02 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, 2/98 ; Formula by Kerry Mitchell ; Wizzle 1golds map reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=nearline-theta_jul passes=1 center-mag=-1.13577/0.112639/11.37086/1/-20 params=-0.787/0.166/10000000000/51 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=toY<19>_PD000YOC<11>M80K60K54<24>uqYws_wr_<38>\ L80K60K70<8>SG6TH7UI8UJ9VK9WLA<32>wt_<49>L70K60K70\ <45>yuazwbyva<3>uqY } rrj-01 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, 2/98 ; Formula by Kerry Mitchell reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=range-r_jul passes=1 center-mag=-9.12465e-016/1.16573e-015/1.64811/1/29.999/38.659 params=-0.76/-0.08699999999999999/16/0/0.21/0.26 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=D8FH8FK9FM9FPAGQAGTAGUBGXBG<3>bCHcCHdDHeDHfDH\ <2>gDHhDHgDHgDH<4>cCHbCH`CH_CHYBGXBGUBGTAGQAGPAG<8>\ 26E3D07E0AE0EF0GG1KG1NH1RI1TI1XJ1ZJ2aK2<4>mM2oN2pN3\ <2>tO3uO3uO3vO3<2>uO3uO3tO3sN3<3>mM2kM2hL2fL2<2>\ ZJ2XJ1TI1RI1NH1KG1GG1EF0<2>4D03D076A87B<5>TDJWDKZEM\ aFNdGO<2>kIRnISoJSrKTsKU<3>xLWyLWyMWyMWyMW<3>\ vLVuKVsKUrKToJSnIS<3>dGOaFNZEMWDKTDJ<6>4693Eo8Fo\ <4>PFpTGpVGpZGp<4>kHqnHqpHqrHq<2>vHqxHrxHryHrzHrzHr\ <2>xHrxHrvHq<3>pHqnHqkHq<3>aGqZGpVGpTGp<4>BFo8Fo3Eo520\ <6>UR0XBG<22>gCGhDHgDH<9>XBGQN0<5>52026E<3>C7F } ry3j-01 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, 2/98 ; Formula by Kerry Mitchell reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=range-y-3_jul passes=1 center-mag=-0.535804/-0.0320229/7.304551/1/19.999 params=-0.76/-0.127/16/16/1/0.1 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=0 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=FB8KA7J96I85600<15>600700901<27>\ y0Jz0Kz0Lz0Lz0K<44>Q0DJEI<37>lglm\ hmlgl<38>JEI600I85<36>sfatgbtfa<34>MC9 } - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rich Thomson Subject: Re: (fractint) Two Fractint questions Date: 05 Mar 1998 09:57:45 -0700 In article <882565BE.000E5E8F.00@NOTESGW.NOSC.MIL> , "Jay Hill" writes: > Question 1: I have a formula which is axis symmetric so this should work... > > frm:Colorit1234 (XAXIS){ > > But it does not [...] Did you try removing the space between the formula name and the symmetry specification? The parser might be sensitive to whitespace. -- Rich Thomson rthomson@ptc.com - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rich Thomson Subject: Re: (fractint) Two Fractint questions Date: 05 Mar 1998 09:59:09 -0700 Oops, missed the second one :) In article <882565BE.000E5E8F.00@NOTESGW.NOSC.MIL> , "Jay Hill" writes: > Question 2: Is i=sqrt(-1) a constant in Fractint. It looks like it is not. I don't beli