From: "Christian Strik" Subject: (fractint) ICQ Number list - Rev 1. Date: 01 May 1998 00:50:25 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0263_01BD749B.218243E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A number of members have posted their ICQ numbers / nicknames on this = list in the last couple of days. I've put them on this list for clarity = reasons. Andrew Duhan / Felix - #10363110 Paul Derbyshire - #??? Alex Dukay - #8515817 Ir=E9n=E9=E9 Mercier - #7217822 Jon Fetting - #4024153 Paul Lee - #8804332 Christian Strik - #11760568 Nhan Nguyen - #341018 Angela Wilczynski (Wizzle) - #503044 / #1205072 Michael Bell - #11379737 David Forbus - #2512475 I selected names and numbers by looking at mail subjects. I'm not = suggesting this list is complete... Any members on ICQ, who haven't mailed their #s yet, or haven't been = listed here (my fault then), please mail. Christian Strik ------=_NextPart_000_0263_01BD749B.218243E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

A number of members have posted = their ICQ=20 numbers / nicknames on this list in the last couple of days. I've put = them on=20 this list for clarity reasons.

Andrew Duhan / Felix - = #10363110

Paul Derbyshire - #???

Alex Dukay - #8515817

Irénéé=20 Mercier - #7217822

Jon Fetting - #4024153

Paul Lee - #8804332

Christian Strik - #11760568

Nhan Nguyen - #341018

Angela = Wilczynski (Wizzle) -=20 #503044 / #1205072

Michael Bell - = #11379737

David Forbus - = #2512475

I selected names and numbers by = looking at mail=20 subjects. I'm not suggesting this list is complete...

Any members on ICQ, who haven't = mailed their #s=20 yet, or haven't been listed here (my fault then), please = mail.

Christian = Strik

------=_NextPart_000_0263_01BD749B.218243E0-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?SXLpbullIE1lcmNpZXI=?=" Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 01 May 1998 07:09:22 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01BD74D0.1101EB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For Outlook Express: it's easy to get text only messages and to remove = MIME formatting To do so: Execute Outlook Express. Click on Tools Menu Click on Options Menu Click on Send Menu Click on Plain Text OR: When you are in the New Message Windows Before typing the message: Click Format Menu Click Plain Text (This will remove the check mark before Rich Text HTML) That's all Folks. Irenee Mercier irenee@boisfrancs.qc.ca -----Original Message----- From: Christian Strik To: fractint@lists.xmission.com Date: 30 avril, 1998 15:11 Subject: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime =20 =20 Thanx Ian, John. I didn't know there were/are Win-based versions of = GhostScript. =20 Besides, I saw my message was dual-formatted mime. Outlook Express = users, does any of you know how to turn it off? May save some bits & = bytes...=20 =20 Christian Strik ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01BD74D0.1101EB80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

For Outlook Express: it's easy to = get text only=20 messages and to remove MIME formatting

To do so:

Execute Outlook Express.

Click on Tools Menu

Click on Options Menu

Click on Send Menu

Click on Plain Text

OR:

When you are in the New Message=20 Windows

Before typing = the=20 message:

Click Format Menu

Click Plain Text (This will remove the check mark = before Rich=20 Text HTML)

That's all Folks.

Irenee Mercier

irenee@boisfrancs.qc.ca

-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Christian Strik <cstrik.isg@hetnet.nl>
T= o:=20 fractint@lists.xmission.com=20 <fractint@lists.xmission.com>
Date:=20 30 avril, 1998 15:11
Subject: (fractint) = Dual-formatted=20 mime

Thanx Ian, John. I didn't know = there=20 were/are Win-based versions of GhostScript.

Besides, I saw my message was dual-formatted = mime. Outlook=20 Express users, does any of you know how to turn it off? May save = some bits=20 & bytes...

Christian = Strik

------=_NextPart_000_002B_01BD74D0.1101EB80-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Sorry... About Mandel Date: 01 May 1998 14:41:54 +0100 Jiho wrote: >Do you ever wonder if Benoit Mandelbrot cares that we never use his full >name? Well, always never use his full name or his correct last name for >that matter. It's like calling Tim Wegner, "WEG", or Lee Skinner, "SKIN". >Wouldn't it bother you? I guess *you* won't have any problems with it if we'll do it to your name ;-) Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) Got a new printer Date: 01 May 1998 10:42:55 -0400 (EDT) On Sat, 25 Apr 1998, Angela Wilczynski wrote: > A note on shopping.......I found that the absolute rock bottom prices > were to be found on the web via ZD net and it's vendors and NOT in > Computer Shopper. My kid didn't believe me until I did print outs for > him. The place where we buy puter parts (Fry's here in la la land) > will match any price one can find, so we saved $175 on my puter via my > web shopping!!! Actually, you can find even lower prices at EBay or Haggle Online -- http://www.ebay.com/aw/ and http://www.haggle.com/ -- usually used equipment, but not all. Fry's has an extremely bad reputation among geeks for quality and support, but personally, I didn't have any trouble with the things I bought from them -- RJ-45 crimpers, CAT-5 cable, and a CD-ROM drive. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 01 May 1998 16:49:24 +0100 Thanx, but what I actually meant was how to keep sending HTML without the plain text part. Maybe this isn't possible, but I guess the plain text is only included for compatibility reasons, which I want to disable. (To this list I will send only messages formatted in plain text though; I've read some of the members are using very old - this is an understatement - mail readers). Christian -----Original Message----- From: Irénée Mercier To: fractint@lists.xmission.com Date: Friday, May 01, 1998 12:11 PM Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime For Outlook Express: it's easy to get text only messages and to remove MIME formatting To do so: Execute Outlook Express. Click on Tools Menu Click on Options Menu Click on Send Menu Click on Plain Text OR: When you are in the New Message Windows Before typing the message: Click Format Menu Click Plain Text (This will remove the check mark before Rich Text HTML) That's all Folks. Irenee Mercier irenee@boisfrancs.qc.ca -----Original Message----- From: Christian Strik To: fractint@lists.xmission.com Date: 30 avril, 1998 15:11 Subject: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Thanx Ian, John. I didn't know there were/are Win-based versions of GhostScript. Besides, I saw my message was dual-formatted mime. Outlook Express users, does any of you know how to turn it off? May save some bits & bytes... Christian Strik Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: (fractint) spooky themes Date: 01 May 1998 07:53:07 -0700 Is it just me, or does it seem a lot of us are six months out of sync? With all of the spooky themes (spiders, ghosts, goblins, Lucifer, zombies) you'd think it was Halloween! Hopefully some of us will remember to dredge this stuff up in the fall. This gives me an idea. Some of us have seasonal theme sections of our Web sites, but given the interest in certain themes relevant to holidays (I recall a number of images, including my own, for Christmas, New Year's Eve, Valentine's Day, Easter) I think it would be really cool if someone with spare server space (not me, at least not until I can scrape up the extra cash for a Simplenet account) would set up a theme page for the list. I guess I'd better start thinking about the 4th of July (relevant only to us yanks)... Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 01 May 1998 11:23:00 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 1 May 1998, Christian Strik wrote: > Thanx, but what I actually meant was how to keep sending HTML without the > plain text part. Maybe this isn't possible, but I guess the plain text is > only included for compatibility reasons, which I want to disable. (To this > list I will send only messages formatted in plain text though; I've read > some of the members are using very old - this is an understatement - mail > readers). Even fairly recent mailreaders don't necessarily support HTML, you know. My mailreader is Pine 3.96, dated 28 February 1997, and it doesn't support HTML. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Anyone porting Fractint for Windows NT Date: 01 May 1998 17:04:20 +0100 What'll happen / has happened to Turner Rentz, sender of the beloved winfract source? According to the results of the 'who' command (posted 4/30/98 18:08 CET), he's still on the list. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) Anyone porting... Date: 01 May 1998 09:17:13 -0700 At 05:04 PM 5/1/98 +0100, you wrote: >What'll happen / has happened to Turner Rentz, sender of the beloved >winfract source? No action is needed. Tim has eliminated the threat with a filter; as long as it can't happen again, I'm happy. If only such clean remedies were an option in the *real* world... Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Janet Preslar Subject: (fractint) Video card/mode Date: 01 May 1998 11:29:37 -0500 In trying to get my Diamond Fire GL1000 Pro to work with FractInt, I have: 1. followed the advice of Sylvie Gallet: > I used a small freeware called vesa2cfg.exe that detects all the VESA >modes supported by your video card. Just run it and it will create a text >file called qpv.cfg. Each line of this file describes one of the VESA >modes available. For example, my qpv.cfg has the following line: > 1600 1200 256 1600 $4f02 $011c > that means: > 1600x1200 256 colors AX=4f02 BX=11c > And here is the entry I added to fractint.cfg: >CF9 ,Millennium VESA mode ,4f02, 11C, 0, 0, 28,1600,1200,256,OK: >Sylvie Gallet 2. installed SciTech Display Doctor based on the advice of Tim Wegner: >Fractint supports the VESA video standard. If you can't use Fractint >with your board, read your board docs; sometimes software that comes >with your board provides VESA support. Failing that, check out >http://www.scitechsoft.com/index.html >for the SciTech Display Doctor, a shareware utility that (among other >things) adds VESA support. The same company used to produce a >utility called UniVBE that I *think* is free. Try a web search to >find it. Since installing SDD, the vsa2cfg program recognizes many more modes for my card and I have entered the information in fractint.cfg as Sylvie suggests but I still get the message that this video mode is not supported. Does anyone have any advice here? Janet Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 4wg7kolodzie@vms.csd.mu.edu Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 01 May 1998 11:32:22 -0600 (CST) On Fri, 1 May 1998, [iso-8859-1] Ir=E9n=E9e Mercier wrote: > For Outlook Express: it's easy to get text only messages and to remove MI= ME formatting Then how come you sent this one in HTML?=20 Please, no more! If I'm in WinDOH!s, I use Pine on the school's mail computer, and I can barely make out what is being said in these messages. Good thing quoting converts it to normal text... Justin K. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick.grasso@hrads.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Anyone porting Fractint for Windows NT Date: 01 May 1998 12:36:37 -0400 >>>What'll happen / has happened to Turner Rentz, sender of the beloved winfract source? According to the results of the 'who' command (posted 4/30/98 18:08 CET), he's still on the list.<<< Well, I, for one, am willing to forgive him, if he did this out of naivete and not maliciousness. Actually, if you are a new computer user and your company has always had T1 access, this is an easy mistake to make. For example, when I first saw his message and the attachment, I did not give it a second thought. For our system, a 1Mb attachment is nothing. Of course the firestorm of protest that followed is certainly justifiable. But (again, assuming he just made a mistake), he must feel bad enough already. Just my 00000010 cents. Nick Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) Anyone porting Fractint for Windows NT Date: 01 May 1998 13:01:32 -0400 nick.grasso@hrads.com wrote: > ..... he must feel bad enough already. > Not bad enough to have come forth to offer his apologies! Gedeon Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 01 May 1998 18:36:06 +0100 OK, maybe your version of Pine isn't quite old, but in a way quite old-fashioned :-) I always thought Linux (and its apps) were in front of the queues when new technologies, formats and standards are introduced. But maybe Pine is an exception to that. (Or maybe you use pine on another platform). I can't make a good judgment on Pine, as I always declined to use it. From your postings, i deduced you don't really favor windows, but for some applications (like e-mail) I think windows is the best. Except when you're using Pegasus of course :-) Christian (Sorry for this messy message). -----Original Message----- >On Fri, 1 May 1998, Christian Strik wrote: >> Thanx, but what I actually meant was how to keep sending HTML without the >> plain text part. Maybe this isn't possible, but I guess the plain text is >> only included for compatibility reasons, which I want to disable. (To this >> list I will send only messages formatted in plain text though; I've read >> some of the members are using very old - this is an understatement - mail >> readers). > >Even fairly recent mailreaders don't necessarily support HTML, you know. > >My mailreader is Pine 3.96, dated 28 February 1997, and it doesn't >support HTML. > >Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) Re: F.O.T.N. 30April98 Date: 01 May 1998 10:15:50 -0700 >>Doctor_Mouth { ; (c) Jay Hill, 1998 What a great uvula! Too many fractal mouths leave out the uvula. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 01 May 1998 19:07:43 +0100 The ease of formatting my hard drive doesn't mean I ever format my harddrive :-) Christian -----Original Message----- On Fri, 1 May 1998, [iso-8859-1] Irénée Mercier wrote: > For Outlook Express: it's easy to get text only messages and to remove MIME formatting Then how come you sent this one in HTML? Please, no more! If I'm in WinDOH!s, I use Pine on the school's mail computer, and I can barely make out what is being said in these messages. Good thing quoting converts it to normal text... Justin K. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 01 May 1998 14:07:06 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 1 May 1998, Christian Strik wrote: > OK, maybe your version of Pine isn't quite old, but in a way quite > old-fashioned :-) > I always thought Linux (and its apps) were in front of the queues when new > technologies, formats and standards are introduced. Sometimes. But Linux is fairly user-driven; people don't start implementing things until they want them. Commercial vendors implement what they think people *will* want, in the near future. Linux and Linux apps therefore tend to not be quick to jump on technology bandwagons. > But maybe Pine is an > exception to that. (Or maybe you use pine on another platform). Actually, I use Pine on SunOS 4.1 :) (I use it on Linux, too, though, and it's almost identical.) Look at the message-ID's. Ones that contain 'PINE.SOL' are running on Solaris (yes, it's funny), ones that contain 'PINE.GSO' are running on Solaris and are compiled with gcc, ones that contain 'PINE.LNX' are running on Linux, etc. > I can't make > a good judgment on Pine, as I always declined to use it. From your postings, > i deduced you don't really favor windows, but for some applications (like > e-mail) I think windows is the best. Except when you're using Pegasus of > course :-) Well, there are some really spiffy email clients for Linux these days. The ones I've heard people praise the most are TkRat (and its offspring Postilion), XFMail, and Mutt. Mutt is a text-based one, and TkRat and XFMail are GUIish. TkRat is at , with screenshots at . Postilion is at , with screenshots at . XFMail is at , with several screenshots at different URLs, like and . There are fifteen other email programs for Linux listed at . Some are spamfilters, some are user-agents (like Pegasus and the other programs I've listed), some are mail server software, some are other things. Me, I'm just lazy. Once I had a working and reasonably-nice mail user-agent, I didn't bother to change it. This is way off the topic of fractint, though. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) Video card/mode Date: 01 May 1998 14:33:21 -0400 Hi Janet, >> Since installing SDD, the vsa2cfg program recognizes many more modes >> for my card and I have entered the information in fractint.cfg as >> Sylvie suggests but I still get the message that this video mode is >> not supported. >> >> Does anyone have any advice here? Would you mind emailing me your qpv.cfg and fractint.cfg files? Cheers, - Sylvie Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Re: ICQ Number list Date: 01 May 1998 14:16:49 -0500 Christian Strik wrote: > > A number of members have posted their ICQ numbers / nicknames on this > list in the last couple of days. I've put them on this list for > clarity reasons. > Woule someone please tell me (and others in the dark, too) how to get the assigned ICQ numbers, how to log in to the chat rooms, etc. I have my own chat software (Sprychat, I think) which I've never used. Be interesting to talk in real time to some of you, especially now that I use breath mints. Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damien M. Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: ICQ Number list Date: 01 May 1998 15:29:02 -0500 Bob, If you want to chat with people on ICQ, you have to have ICQ. When you install the ICQ software, it will sign you up (it's free) and assign you a number. If you know the name or e-mail address of someone, you can use the ICQ software (or the mirabilis.com web site) to search for their ICQ number. Damien M. Jones \\ dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs) \\ http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby) Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Janet Preslar Subject: (fractint) Apology Date: 01 May 1998 14:27:42 -0500 So sorry everyone! I meant to respond to Sylvie personally, not the list! Janet Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Martin <76440.1143@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: gravijul4 Date: 01 May 1998 17:25:42 -0400 Angela > Now....question here.....how long can a par name be? < Fractint recognizes the first 18 characters of an image name. There is no harm in a longer name; the extra characters are simply ignored. Same with formulas. In version 20.0, a formula name greater than 18 characters will produce an error message. Another thought anent image names: Partobat, which many of us use, keys off the image name to set the file name for saving the completed image. It is therefore helpful if image names are limited to 8 characters, *especially* if the last character or characters in a group of images is an index number (e.g. abc1, abc2, abc3 ...). George Martin Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick.grasso@hrads.com Subject: Re: (fractint) Sorry... About Mandel Date: 01 May 1998 17:40:48 -0400 Jiho wrote: >Do you ever wonder if Benoit Mandelbrot cares that we never use his full >name? Well, always never use his full name or his correct last name for >that matter. It's like calling Tim Wegner, "WEG", or Lee Skinner, "SKIN". >Wouldn't it bother you? Hey, it's his own fault if his last name doesn't conform to DOS file naming standards . Nick Grass, errr I mean... Nick Grasso Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Music for fractal animations....... Date: 01 May 1998 23:59:53 +0100 Jerry Fox wrote: >> Do some newsreaders make it difficult to edit the quoted messages? Lots of contributors to the list seem to be unable or unwilling to 'snip' - even the bit at the end added by xmission, which we have all seen countless times. I noticed that when Paul gave the sizes of the longest 3 recent messages, one of them was 95% quote! (No names...) << You're probably referring to an e-mail message of mine. Sorry to all for the 21 kibs message. Just *forgot* to snip Turner's message. Fortunately, the reply did not not include Turner's zip file... :-) ----------- Sorry for the late response - this message was somehow still hanging around in my Drafts folder. Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 01 May 1998 23:59:47 +0100 Justin, >Christian Strik wrote: >> >> The ease of formatting my hard drive doesn't mean I ever format my harddrive >> :-) >> Christian >Hmmm... What's that have to do with sending HTML messages? If you didn't get it, I meant: although one knows *how* to change HTML to plain text, doesn't mean that one has to *change* the setting to plain text :-) >If you like Windows and are willing to work through the crashes, great. I won't >force you to switchor reformat your hard drive or anything like that. Just >because I hate Windows doesn't mean you should too. (damn e-mail... too much >room for misinterpretation in plain text... ) I'm not suffering from crashes, by the way. My WinNT 4.0 SP3 is quite stable. I've only had one crash last 3 months, and that was because of some wrong bios setting of mine. [Can't say the same of the betas of Win98 i've seen - 2&3]. >Right now, I'm still searching for the best OS. Linux has great user support >but still has things that crash or don't work quite right. Right. :-P >Guess Bill's monopoly is safe for now. :-( Hmm.. think so too. Although I prefer dos over windows over unix, I don't like microsoft's attitude towards others on the market. Yes, I copy the smiley: :-( Christian Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: Re: (fractint) another par Date: 01 May 1998 23:59:56 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0226_01BD755D.3DE63FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 I'm still *way* behind copying and pasting pars and frms. And it looks like I won't get much further: I've seen Kathy's Godhead par, explored it, and am still exploring and = modifying it. =20 I think I give my up atheism :-) =20 I also enjoyed the visualization of Lee Skinner's Ghost of a Woolly = Mammoth. Christian ------=_NextPart_000_0226_01BD755D.3DE63FB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

I'm still *way* behind copying and pasting pars and=20 frms.

And it looks like I won't get much = further:

I've seen Kathy's Godhead par, explored it, and am = still=20 exploring and modifying it.

I think I give my up atheism :-)

I also enjoyed the visualization of = Lee=20 Skinner's Ghost of a Woolly Mammoth.

Christian

------=_NextPart_000_0226_01BD755D.3DE63FB0-- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Wilson" Subject: (fractint) Re: F.O.T.D. 01-05-98 (Zombie's face) Date: 01 May 1998 15:19:51 -0700 Jim Muth wrote: >Today's fractal kind of took me by surprise. It resembles a >grisly face, that much is certain. But whose face is it? May I suggest...a self-portrait, after spending too much time in fractal-land? :-) Speaking of this place...I think I found it, deep in your par, beautiful but lonely. Landscape { ; 2min at 100mhz, 640x480 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=zombie.par formulaname=multirot-xz-yw center-mag=+0.06539567053037956/-0.02000277456674175/957.7315/0.383 params=-45/90/0/0/0.243/0.508 float=y maxiter=32000 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=yes symmetry=yaxis periodicity=10 colors=000FWO<11>T7K<25>fZo<14>tCKtBIsCK<15>cDhbDicFg<21>ofJogInfH<11>ma\ GmaGkbJ<10>Yln<4>fVQPRLH9MK9HJEBME6KD6OH7M07L48O88MH9LG9OJ9MIAQHAT6BSABQ\ ECO0CSLCQPDTTDXXE<2>STFQSFQPE<23>FpQFqQGmP<14>J0H<20>LEHLEHNGK<12>kZnrSp\ yLr<19>ZpA } John Wilson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 01 May 1998 18:48:08 -0500 (CDT) comment { This formula applies the same rendering method to both the classic Mandelbrot set equation (Msets and a Julia set) and the Pokorny equation (Julia sets only). In all the pars the size factor, imag(p1), is set large enough that the rings are filled in, giving the image elements the appearance of dimpled balls or spheroids. Reducing this factor to where the balls become rings gives, in effect, a whole new rendering method. I apologize for the number of pars - I guess I got carried away. Because there are a lot of them, I've numbered them in my order of preference in case you don't want to try them all. There are many more I could have included, but I thought it best to save them for a future posting. Also, this rendering method works well with a very wide range of equations, so you'll be seeing it again in several future posts. Here's the list of pars: Mandelbrot: 1 Mardi_gras_dragon - a dragon in his festive, fruity costume 2 period8_cascade - a *very* colorful cascade 6 mandelhenge - posted before(?) with different colors 4 3D_cascade - dramatic, looks like a torpedoe attack 7 double_spiral - big, rounded spiral 9 ring_tubes_mset - Mset zoom with midget 13 loops_mset - " " " 11 cross_mset - " " " 3 period8_mset - colorful Mset zoom near period 8 bulb 12 seahorse_mset - near outer edge of Mset in Seahorse Valley Pokorny: 5 highlights - interesting - peaks are lit up 8 silky_spiral - looks smooth and silky 10 footprint_spiral - strange footprints spiral in 14 pokorny_spiral - colorful, simple spiral Paul Carlson } frm:R4_Mand_Pok {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; real(p1) = selects equation to iterate ; 1 = Mset of w = w * w + c (default) ; 2 = Julia set of w = w * w + c ; 3 = Julia set of w = 1 / (w * w + c) ; imag(p1) = a factor controlling the size of the elements ; p2 = Julia set coordinates ; real(p3) = selects color scheme ; 1 = 2 ranges, 125 colors per range (default) ; 2 = 8 ranges, 30 colors per range ; imag(p3) = number of iterations to skip ; z = bailout = range_num = iter = 0 IF (real(p1) == 2 || real(p1) == 3) ; select Mset or Julia set w = pixel ; Julia set c = p2 ELSE w = 0 ; Mset c = pixel ENDIF k = (0.5,0.5) size = imag(p1) IF (real(p3) == 2) ; select coloring scheme num_ranges = 8 colors_in_range = 30 ELSE num_ranges = 2 colors_in_range = 125 ENDIF skip = imag(p3) index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / size : ;********** select equation to iterate ************** IF (real(p1) < 3) w = w * w + c ; Mandelbrot ELSE w = 1 / (w * w + c) ; Pokorny ENDIF ;**************************************************** IF (iter > skip) dist = abs(|w - k| - 0.1) IF (dist < size) bailout = 1 ENDIF ENDIF IF (bailout) z = index_factor * dist + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 1.0e20 } Mardi_gras_dragon {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=t corners=-1.568/1.568/-1.176/1.176 params=2/0.2/0.359166203/-0.09033392599999999/2/10 float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>a\ G00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000 } period8_cascade {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=t corners=0.359167095870493/0.359167181482118/-0.09033220899\ 13761/-0.0903324222807182/0.359167229069562/-0.0903323865901351 params=1/0.2/0/0/2/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>0\ 0OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00000<13>000 } highlights {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=t corners=0.71667188/0.82476722/0.2879409/0.3690124 params=3/0.4/-1.5820911/-0.0374792/1/10 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zVz<108>G0GG0GG0GG0GG0G<10>G0Gzz0<108>aG0aG0aG0aG0\ aG0<10>aG0000<3>000 } mandelhenge { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=1 corners=-0.040680397538667/-0.040680253551853/-0.67898812665\ 385/-0.67898801866374 params=1/0.2/0/0/1/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0K0zqa<123>WRFiY0<123>ZE0000<3>000 } 3D_cascade { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=t corners=-0.77093087276/-0.77093084724/-0.116025147126/-0.116\ 025127986 params=1/0.1/0/0/1/100 float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zW0<123>d500zz<123>0CC000<3>000 } silky_spiral { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=t corners=0.066882797/0.51967506/2.1331988/2.472793 params=3/0.1/-1.46642708/-0.05290104/1/10 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>aG0jzb<123>4E0000<3>000 } footprint_spiral { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=t corners=0.554398417/0.614651883/1.5060547/1.5512448 params=3/0.1/-1.2779375/-0.0597552/1/10 float=y maxiter=500 inside=1000 outside=summ colors=000z88<123>O00zqa<123>WRF00000000M000000 } pokorny_spiral { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=1 corners=-0.85994489/-0.71845279/0.20748351/0.31360258 params=3/0.5/-1.72/0.026666666/2/10 float=y maxiter=300 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0000zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08\ z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG0000<13>000 } double_spiral { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=1 corners=-1.269581672899/-1.26957485457/0.06222024394185/0.06\ 221513019505 params=1/0.07/0/0/1/50 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0I0z88<123>O00zqa<123>WRF000<2>000kkk } ring_tubes_mset { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=1 center-mag=-1.26956651073483800/+0.06227810403290189/35744.2\ 2/1/178.298 params=1/0.07/0/0/1/50 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=ADLMov<123>HKSsF_<123>C02000<3>000 } loops_mset { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=t center-mag=-0.78938339439999990/-0.16322467242700000/1.62601\ 6e+008/1/17.498 params=1/0.1/0/0/1/0 float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0__0zz<123>0CCzW0<123>d50000<3>000 } cross_mset { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=t center-mag=-1.39037564029000000/+0.10542908264200000/7957.76\ /1/4.999 params=1/0.1/0/0/1/0 float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0__zW0<123>d500zz<123>0CC000<3>000 } period8_mset { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=t center-mag=+0.35916673430729710/-0.09033314067856232/232279.\ 6/1/-149.998 params=1/0.19/0/0/2/0 float=y maxiter=3000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=0000zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00\ zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C4000<13>000 } seahorse_mset { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=r4.frm formulaname=r4_mand_pok passes=t center-mag=-0.74923571829346300/+0.11550647295702510/48141.2\ 3/1/-14.998 params=1/0.1/0/0/1/40 float=y maxiter=5000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=IPXMov<123>HKSsF_<123>C02000<3>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kathy roth Subject: (fractint) gravellipse Date: 01 May 1998 17:01:47 -0700 I guess it was inevitable - gravellipse. (This is my first formula or modification!) gravellipse { ;5-1-98 kathy roth ;variation of gravijul by Mark Christenson z = pixel, a=real(p3), b=imag(p3): w = fn1(z) z = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) + p2 real(z) * real(z)/ a + imag(z) * imag(z)/b < 1 } ge1 { ; 5-1-98 kathy roth ; variation of frm by Mark Christenson ;palette by Kerry Mitchell reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gravel~1.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=recip/atanh/atan passes=t center-mag=1.77636e-015/-1.77636e-015/0.1626667 params=1/0/0/0/9/1 float=y inside=111 outside=atan colors=222A62EA6IA2ME6IEAMIEQIAUMEU\ I6QE2YI2aM6YMAaQEeQAiUEiQ6eM2mQ2qU6uU\ 2yY6uYAyaEqYEmUAmYIqaMuaIyeMueQyiUqeU\ maQiaUeYQiYMeUIaUMYQIYUQaYUYYYaaaYa\ eaeieeeiiiieaeaYmeYqiauiYymaumeyqiqmim\ iemmmqqquqmyuquuuyyyquymquiqyemuim\ qeimaiqYemYiuamyUiyQeuUeqQamMaqIYmIauMey\ EayAYu6Yy2Uu6Uq2QmAUmEYqEUiAQe6Q\ i2Me6Ma2IYAMYEQaIQYMUaIUeMYiQYeUaiUYaQUY\ UUUQQQUQMQMIMMMIIIIMQMQUEMUAIQ6I\ U2EQ6EM2AIAEIEIMEEEAAA6AE26A666642A86E\ 82MC2IC6IGEMGAQKEUKAQG6UG2aK2YK6YO\ EaOAeSEiSAeO6iO2mS6qS2yW2uW6y_Au_EqWAm\ WEm_Mq_IycIucMygQugUqcQmcUe_Ui_QiW\ IeWMaSIYSMaWQYWUa_YY_aYciaceegiigeec\ aicYmgaqgYykYukayoeuoiqkemkimoqqomys\ musqywuuwyqsumsyeoyiouikmekqagmYgqaku\ YkyQgyUguUcmQcqM_mI_qMcuIcyE_uA_y2W\ y6Wu2Sq6SmAWqEWmESeASi2Oi6Oe2Ka6KYAOa\ EOYMSYISaIWiMWeQ_iU_eQWaUWYQSUUSQUO\ IQOMMKIIKMMOQIOUEKQAKU2GU6GQ2CM6CI\ AGMEGIECAACE28E68A246 } ge2 { ; 5-1-98 kathy roth ; variation of frm by Mark Christenson ;palette by Kerry Mitchell reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gravel~1.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=recip/atanh/atan passes=t center-mag=-4.44089e-016/0/0.4621212 params=1/0/0/0/1/9 float=y inside=111 outside=atan colors=222Apy6ty2xy2uu6tu6qq2qq\ 2mm6mmAmmApqElqElmEiiEeeAeeAii6ii2ii2ee6e\ e6aa2aa2YY6YYAYYAaaEaaEYYIYYMYYMaaIaaIee\ IhiMdiMdeQ`eQ`iUXiUXeUXaQ`aQYYUX\ YUUUQUUQQQUUQUUMUUIQQIQQMMMMMMIIIII\ MMIQQMQQMUUIUUEUUEQQAQQAUU6UU2UU2QQ6Q\ Q6MM2MM2II6IIAIIAMMEMMEIIEEEEEAAAAAEE\ 6EE2EE2AA6AA666266662AA2AA6EE6EE2II\ 2MM2MM6II6IIAIIEMMEMMAQQAQQEUUEUUAUU\ 6QQ6QQ2<2>aa2aa6YY6YYAYYEaaEaaAeeAee\ EiiEiiAii6ee6ee2ii2mm2mm6qq6qq2uu2y\ x2yt6ut6upAypAylEulEqlEqpAmmAmlEmhImd\ MqdMqhIuhIyhIydMudMu`Qy`QyXUuXUqXUq`Q\ m`QmXUiXUeXUe`Qi`QidMihIeeIedMaaMaa\ IYYIYYMYYQa`QaXUYXUYTYaTYaPaYTaYTeYT\ iaPiaPeeLeeLiiHiiLeiPaePaeTYiTYmTYmP\ aqPaqTYuTYyTYyPauPauLeyLeyHiuHiqHiq\ LemLemHimDmmDqq9qqDmuDmyDmy9qu9qu5uy5\ uy1yu5yq9yq9umDumDyiHyeLyeLuiHuiHqiH\ meLmeLqaPqaPmYTmYTqYTuaPuaPy<2>Q`yQ`\ uUXuUXqUXmQ`mQ`qMdqMdmIhmIhqIhuMdu\ MdyIhyElyEluApu } ge3 { ; 5-1-98 kathy roth ; variation of frm by Mark Christenson ;palette by Linda Allison reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gravel~1.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=ident/atanh/atan passes=t center-mag=1.77636e-015/-1.77636e-015/0.1626667 params=1/0/0/0/9/1 float=y inside=111 outside=atan colors=I8F<6>unr<7>8F8<7>lyl<7>\ 05A<7>cru<7>444<7>mmz<7>I8F<7>zmm<7>A00<7\ >zzg<7>N13<7>z_K<7>g50<7>zvn<7>I8F<7>ghl\ <7>08C<7>ata<7>A0A<7>Zrk<7>C40<7\ >zii<7>F00<7>zrc<7>N57<7>yZJ<7>c20\ <7>zaV<7>F00<7>sog<7>I8F } ge4 { ; 5-1-98 kathy roth ; variation of frm by Mark Christenson ;palette by Linda Allison reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gravel~1.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=recip/atanh/atan passes=t center-mag=-4.44089e-016/-4.44089e-016/0.2284644 params=1/0/0/0/9/1 float=y inside=111 outside=atan decomp=256 colors=47S69T47S<30>wweyyfxxe<30>\ 1I5<30>cvcexedwe<29>7GK5EJ6FK<29>dxxfzz\ fyy<29>DCRCAPDBQ<29>ieskgtjft<27>7AU } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carolyn Subject: (fractint) Re: ICQ Number list Date: 01 May 1998 19:00:28 -0500 Bob you will find the program on the Mirabilis home page. They have the program available to download. http://www.mirabilis.com Look for the red daisy. -- Carolyn car34slmo@worldnet.att.net http://www.quiknet.com/~jilld/beadwork2.htm Jesus is the Light of the world, the Bread of life and the Salvation of your soul. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 01 May 1998 19:28:23 -0500 (CDT) My apologies again for the length of the file, as well as the flurry of formulas I've been sending. The flurry might continue for another few days - as the weather gets nicer I'll be spending less and less time at the computer and more time up in the Rocky Mountains, etc., which is why I've been dumping all this stuff on the list - you can look at the stuff at your leisure over the summer. Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Blake Hyde" Subject: Re: (fractint) ICQ number Date: 01 May 1998 20:46:09 -0400 >> How many of you are on ICQ? Memememe #5411598 ~~~~Blake Hyde~~~~ bhyde@connectu.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Derbyshire Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 01 May 1998 21:12:46 -0400 Kragen wrote: > Well, there are some really spiffy email clients for Linux these days. > The ones I've heard people praise the most are TkRat (and its offspring > Postilion), XFMail, and Mutt. Mutt is a text-based one, and TkRat and > XFMail are GUIish. XFMail? AIIIIEEE! I have seen XFMail crash 20 LANned Linux X servers! Personally witnessed it. The client hung, requiring the user to destroy the window, upon which the X session hung, bombing the X client and Windows NT (on which the X client was running). After getting the client end sorted out again, it quickly became evident that all 20 X servers had zero load averages registering and were totally incommunicado... > TkRat is at , with > screenshots at > . Is this written with that Tcl/Tk thing I keep hearing about? > XFMail is at , > with several screenshots at different URLs, like > and > . It should probably be given an ISP-independent web address merely because of infamy: http://surf.to/system/crash.html?platform=linux,winNT. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Derbyshire Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 01 May 1998 21:16:43 -0400 [Deletia] Caveat 1: Windows NT is not all that stable especially running heavy-use server software. And it costs as much as a small Pacific island... Caveat 2: Keep an eye out for a free OS based on object oriented designs and lacking Linux stability issues coming real soon, i.e. in the next 2 years. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RENRAD1 Subject: (fractint) re:what to do with... Date: 01 May 1998 22:22:06 EDT Hi fractalnauts! I've just recently worked out how to put list posts in the fracmachine and have been greatly enjoying all of your works. Amazing eyecandy, folks, thanks so much for sharing your params, tips, math info, and formulas! A while back Morgan Owens shared a couple of pars with the list to find how others would color them. I've put here a few of my dabs at them:) Hope it mails ok! ::cracking bottle of champagne on mailbox for maiden pars:: Renrad1 Renrad1@aol.com nukespre_d98 { ; Fractal by Morgan Owens; coloring by Renrad1 ; copyright p.m.spencer April 30, 1998 ; colored_pencil style map ; love the 'hedgehog look' hard to work around the ctr flat, though. reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=lambdafroth4m function=floor/floor passes=t center-mag=-3.33067e-016/2.22045e-016/2.73224 params=0/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 potential=255/400/200 invert=0.5/0/0 colors=555zzs<27>zz0000000zzu<26>3Fy0Dz000444zzu<28>S05222111\ zzu<28>0L0888555zzu<27>55J22H222222zzu<28>NI5333333zzu<28>zP44\ 44444zzu<28>0gf444555zzu } evthrzn_d98 { ;Morgan Owens fractal; coloring by Renrad1 ;Copyright p.m.spencer April 30, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=lambdafroth4m function=floor/floor passes=t center-mag=-3.33067e-016/2.22045e-016/2.73224 params=0/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 potential=255/400/200 invert=0.5/0/0 colors=mml000<25>000000222<25>zuu<20>000<22>zuuCCA<15>zzlnnc\ <3>wwjzzlzzlzzlzzlzzl<19>HHDCCA00A<33>kkxmmzlly<35>22C00A000\ <32>000 } ozspray_d98 { ; Slight zoom into Morgan Owens' Working1 ; copyright p.m.spencer April 30, 1998 ; Renrad1@aol.com reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=lambdafroth4m function=floor/floor passes=t center-mag=0.00259503/0.193737/9.758 params=0/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 potential=255/400/200 invert=0.5/0/0 colors=mml000<17>000000222<25>zuu<20>000<22>zuuCCA<15>\ zzlnnc<3>wwjzzlzzlzzlzzlzzl<19>HHDCCA00A<33>kkxmmzlly<35>\ 22C00A000<40>000 } fracweb_d98 { ; zoom, rotate, and skew from Morgan Owen's Working1 ; copyright p.m.spencer April 30, 1998 ; Renrad1@aol.com reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=lambdafroth4m function=floor/floor passes=t center-mag=-0.01105103268591730/+0.19464610440065960/266.3222/1/-102.5/-\ 20.472 params=0/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 potential=255/400/200 invert=0.5/0/0 colors=mml000000<26>zuu<20>000<22>zuuCCA<15>zzlnnc<3>\ wwjzzlzzlzzlzzlzzl<19>HHDCCA00A<33>kkxmmzlly<35>22C00A000<58>000 } fauxfosl2_d98 { ; Working3 rotated zoomed coloring by Renrad1 ; copyright p.m.spencer April 30, 1998 ; Renrad1@aol.com reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=uc03 function=log passes=t center-mag=-0.45322/-0.362142/2.34375/1.1386/-90 params=0.1/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 colors=000```<12>zzz<30>272050161<29>xxizzkzzk<29>kkk00P<46>\ xxyzzzyyy<35>D94000EA5FB5000<37>000111333<15>ZZZ } fauxfosl3_d98 { ; Working3 rotated zoomed coloring by Renrad1 ; copyright p.m.spencer April 30, 1998 ; Renrad1@aol.com reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=uc03 function=log passes=t center-mag=-0.295328/-0.287951/7.306039/0.7054/173.404/-1.929 params=0.1/0 float=y maxiter=1023 inside=255 viewwindows=1/0.6/yes/0/0 colors=000WWW<3>000A83<20>wwozzrzzr<5>zzqzzqzzqzzpzzozznzzl\ <25>332000000000000<2>10920C20D<26>40z<23>10W10U10T00R00I00\ 9000<77>000<13>zzz<26>zzz<2>ccc } frm:lambdafroth4m(XYAxis){ bailout=(4*(|p2|<=0)+p2) z=lambda=pixel: z=lambda*z-lambda/z z=lambda*z-lambda*fn1(fn2(z)) |z|<=bailout} } frm:Uc03{; = 2z(2z-1)U02-U01 ;Prerelease 16/04/1998 t=p1,bailout=4,z=pixel: x=real(z),y=imag(z) ax=4*x-2,ay=4*y-2 Tx=fn1(ax*(ax*ax-2)) Ty=fn1(ay*(ay*ay-2)) x=x-t*Ty,y=y+t*Tx z=x+flip(y) |z|<=bailout} Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 01 May 1998 22:38:44 -0400 Irony of the year! Paul Carlson, who was kind enough to send us 14 absolutely wonderful pars and a formula, _apologized_ twice for the lenght of his post!!!!! And the fellow who has loaded us down with a megabyte of crap? Well, we have yet to hear from him! Gedeon Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 01 May 1998 20:14:22 -0700 There are other reasons not to send HTML formatted stuff, even if everyone's mail client can handle it. The main reason, to me, is bandwidth......all that cute html stuff turns into a bigger file.....and into a huge file if "all the richness of the web" (the Netscape hype for html mail) is incorporated into the email. <> I've often wanted to strangle html mail-ee's BECAUSE I COULD read their dratted messages.....it is similar to getting that 857K file we all complained about. Graphics take up a LOT of bandwidth <> which the html mailers conveniently forget. So....with our current 15K+ email limit.....a lot of html mail would not make it to this list. Wait.....maybe that's a good idea!@!!!! If the html mailer got bounce-o-post I'd love it!!!! Serve em right for cluttering up the net. Angela Kragen wrote: > > On Fri, 1 May 1998, Christian Strik wrote: > > Thanx, but what I actually meant was how to keep sending HTML without the > > plain text part. Maybe this isn't possible, but I guess the plain text is > > only included for compatibility reasons, which I want to disable. (To this > > list I will send only messages formatted in plain text though; I've read > > some of the members are using very old - this is an understatement - mail > > readers). > > Even fairly recent mailreaders don't necessarily support HTML, you know. > > My mailreader is Pine 3.96, dated 28 February 1997, and it doesn't > support HTML. > > Kragen > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List > Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" > Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net > Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Anyone porting Fractint for Windows NT Date: 01 May 1998 20:18:27 -0700 Nick.... I'd absolutely agree had I seen an appology from Turner to the list....but I must have missed it. Nor has he sent me a personal apology even though I replied within an hour of his posting. Anyone else hear from him? If not, I'm going to assume he isn't any too contrite. Angela > > Well, I, for one, am willing to forgive him, if he did this out of naivete > and not maliciousness. Actually, if you are a new computer user and your > company has always had T1 access, this is an easy mistake to make. For > example, when I first saw his message and the attachment, I did not give it > a second thought. For our system, a 1Mb attachment is nothing. Of course > the firestorm of protest that followed is certainly justifiable. But > (again, assuming he just made a mistake), he must feel bad enough already. > > Just my 00000010 cents. > > Nick > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 01 May 1998 20:29:03 -0700 Gedeon..... yes....well....hmmmmm....but Paul has both talent and savoir faire.....it's always nice dealing with a gentleman. Angela Gedeon Peteri wrote: > > Irony of the year! Paul Carlson, who was kind enough to send us 14 > absolutely wonderful pars and a formula, _apologized_ twice for the lenght > of his post!!!!! And the fellow who has loaded us down with a megabyte of > crap? Well, we have yet to hear from him! > > Gedeon > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 01 May 1998 23:40:01 -0400 Angela Wilczynski wrote: > Gedeon..... > > yes....well....hmmmmm....but Paul has both talent and savoir faire.....it's > always nice dealing with a gentleman. Exactly my sentiment too! And with a lady. Gedeon Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 02 May 1998 00:08:13 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 1 May 1998, Paul Derbyshire wrote: > I have seen XFMail crash 20 LANned Linux X servers! Impressive! I think you mean '20 LANned Linux servers running X clients'. Presumably they were not all running a single instance of XFmail, though, since normally such programs run on only one machine at a time. I'm really rather puzzled about what might have caused this fault to propagate... what version of Linux was it? > hung, bombing the X client and Windows NT (on which the X client was running). 'X client' is something like XFmail, xterm, what have you, that uses the facilities provided by the 'X server' -- namely, access to keystrokes and screen graphics. So the server runs on your desktop, and the client runs in the data center. Weird. > > TkRat is at , with > > screenshots at > > . > > Is this written with that Tcl/Tk thing I keep hearing about? Yep. BTW, you can get Tcl/Tk (with great docs and lots of examples) for Win32 and the Mac; I think www.scriptics.com or sunscript.sun.com might be good places to start. It's *great*. Kragen Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shauna Jones" Subject: Re: (fractint) Got a new printer Date: 01 May 1998 19:50:11 -1000 I like www.pricewatch.com. Actually, HI's pretty good for computer prices right now - we have Computer City and Circuit City busy undercutting each others' prices as they get established, plus another big one scheduled to arrive in a few months (August, I think). That's three big retailers on an island that has only about 850,000 total population. Plus we have a local shop doing a fine job at http://www.byteware.com . Unfortunately, the computer budget for the first six months has been spent already, and the next six months has been commandeered by a dead transmission. On 1 May 98 at 10:42, Kragen wrote: > On Sat, 25 Apr 1998, Angela Wilczynski wrote: > > A note on shopping.......I found that the absolute rock bottom prices > > were to be found on the web via ZD net and it's vendors and NOT in > > Computer Shopper. My kid didn't believe me until I did print outs for > > him. The place where we buy puter parts (Fry's here in la la land) > > will match any price one can find, so we saved $175 on my puter via my > > web shopping!!! > > Actually, you can find even lower prices at EBay or Haggle Online -- > http://www.ebay.com/aw/ and http://www.haggle.com/ -- usually used > equipment, but not all. Another blast of bits from David Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/ Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/ For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:hisurf@aloha.net Random Thought for this Nanosecond Oh bother. Beavis and Butthead have roasted Piglet. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) Flexball Spirals Formula Date: 02 May 1998 01:09:51 -0500 (CDT) comment { This formula applies my flexball rendering method to a spiral-generating equation. Although I designed the flexball method especially for Mset images that include midgets, it turns out that it does a nice job with spirals also. These images are brand new - made for the first time this evening. The last par, fbspirm4, is not stictly a spiral - it has a tiny midget at the center. Although this image uses my eight-range rainbow-like color map, the colors turned out quite subdued and the image looks like it has many tiny flowers in it. This image, along with fbspirm1, are my favorites of this bunch. Paul Carlson } frm:FlexBalls_R4 {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; p1 = radius of center of ring (0.01 to 10) ; p2 = one half thickness of ring (0.01 to p1) ; c = pixel w = z = iter = bailout = 0 d0 = p1 + p2 d1 = 0.382683432365 * p1 d2 = 0.923879532511 * p1 dsqd = d0 * d0 + p1 * p1 - (d0 + d0) * d2 : w = c * ((w - 1)^2) / ((w + 1)^2) ; IF ((abs(cabs(w) - p1) < p2) && iter > 0) bailout = 1 wr = real(w), wi = imag(w) awr = abs(wr), awi = abs(wi) IF (awr >= awi) dist = (awr - d2) * (awr - d2) + (awi - d1) * (awi - d1) adjust = 1 ELSE dist = (awr - d1) * (awr - d1) + (awi - d2) * (awi - d2) adjust = 0 ENDIF IF (wr >= 0 && wi >= 0) range_num = 1 - adjust ELSEIF (wr < 0 && wi >= 0) range_num = 2 + adjust ELSEIF (wr < 0 && wi < 0) range_num = 5 - adjust ELSE range_num = 6 + adjust ENDIF ratio = sqrt(dist / dsqd) z = 29 * ratio + range_num * 30 + 1 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 1000 } fbspirm1 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fbr4.frm formulaname=flexballs_r4 passes=1 center-mag=-2.82474314626309600/+1.84668632926580900/895.8193\ /1/-37.499 params=0.1/0/0.01/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0 colors=0000zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z\ 88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG0000<10>000zzz000000 } fbspirm2 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fbr4.frm formulaname=flexballs_r4 passes=1 center-mag=-2.81660781050898400/+1.83773967258051900/4339.874\ /1/-37.499 params=0.1/0/0.0185/0 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0 colors=000z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCG\ Gz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08000<10>000zzz000000 } fbspirm3 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fbr4.frm formulaname=flexballs_r4 passes=1 center-mag=-4.85050645044610900/+0.82642201391573340/5428.117 params=0.14/0/0.0185/0 float=y maxiter=3000 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0 colors=000zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz\ 0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40000<13>000 } fbspirm4 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fbr4.frm formulaname=flexballs_r4 passes=t center-mag=-3.62760013362999200/+1.71926806871101800/4246818 params=0.2/0/0.01/0 float=y maxiter=3000 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0 colors=000q77<9>O00c40<14>xU0zW0yU0<11>c40aG0<14>xw0zz0yw0<11\ >aG00C4<15>0zR<12>0C40CC<15>0zz<12>0CC00O<14>FFwGGzFFw<11>00O\ SA`<14>eNxfOzeNw<10>K2OO08<15>z0f<12>R0BO08O00<15>z88w88t7700\ 0<13>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Turner W. Rentz, III" Subject: RE: (fractint) Anyone porting... Date: 02 May 1998 02:12:54 -0400 A sad footnote here is that the post to the list, is C++ source code for a new fractint program ; not one person responded to that - it was all "spam" to them. Triste. I've learned my lesson. There are close to 800 messages here and not one of them has to do with the development of software. Beauty and discipline go hand in hand, as do spam and blatant harmfulness. Posting source such as that was a mistake; one forgets that people do access the internet by modem. It must have been ghastly. I have chosen you essentially at random; if you know of anyone who sees the computer source code as something other than "spam" please let me know; we might can work together to get this code written. I believe the stone soup group still exists somewhere... -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 1998 8:44 PM On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Paul N. Lee wrote: > Not to mention the 70 individuals on the Fractint-Digest List. Hopefully -- depending on when fractint-digest goes out -- the bombing can be prevented from reaching those folks. Kragen - Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Les St Clair" Subject: (fractint) April Par Collection Date: 02 May 1998 11:11:27 +0100 Hi all, The Fractint List par collection for April is now available for download at: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/ Don't forget to update your .frm collection while you're there! BTW, a few pars posted on the 30th Apr. actually showed up on my server on 1st May, these will, of course, appear in next month's collection. Enjoy! - Les Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Valero Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 02 May 1998 07:48:35 -0400 At 10:38 PM 01/05/98 -0400, Gedeon wrote: >...And the fellow who has loaded us down with a megabyte of >crap? Well, we have yet to hear from him! I was fortunate enough to have my email reader set to reject automatically downloading very large files so wasn't greatly inconvenienced. However, after all the mail about this item I am curious: was it good crap but just too long or was it really junk? Regards - Jack visit our fractal gallery: http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/phractal.html Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 02 May 1998 07:09:47 -0500 Jack Valero wrote: > . However, after all the mail about this item > I am curious: was it good crap but just too long or was it > really junk? > I'm sure most of us on this list server can state that we had no need for it. Yes it was very long. It was a zipped file that took several minutes to download and, judging from the accompanying message, most of us would have no use for the file after it was unzipped. The accompanying message seemed to come from a fan of Art Bell's (see www.artbell.com). Big . It had a lot of gibberish pertaining to Winfract, I think. Regards, Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Re: ICQ Number list Date: 02 May 1998 08:11:09 -0500 Thanks to Damien and Carolyn for helping me get the ICQ program. I've installed it and, after going nearly blind reading the lengthy license agreement and agreeing to its conditions (most of which I can't remember now ), have been assigned # 11924047. Hope to meet some of you soon and talk Fractal Art shop. Bob Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 02 May 1998 06:56:41 -0700 Jack... While not a programmer myself, Turner tells us he sent code in C+ that would allow Fractint to run under NT. The last time I visited the wish list, this was probably the #1 request. And with Uncle Bill telling the world that WIN 98 is the last of the DOS products, moving our favorite fractal program to NT is essential. So....sounds like we have a potential good thing here. No broken arms and legs out there because of the big post, I hope??? Just inconvenience??? I, for one, am thrilled with the idea of being able to run Fractint under NT.....which I have at the dreaded w*rk. And I have a wish list.....a very loooooooooooooooong wish list. I also know we have lots of clever programming types on the list who probably look forward to reading all that code while subsisting off of Snickers, Coke and potato chips. Seems silly to hold a grudge. Welcome aboard Turner..... <> Angela Jack Valero wrote: > > At 10:38 PM 01/05/98 -0400, Gedeon wrote: > >...And the fellow who has loaded us down with a megabyte of > >crap? Well, we have yet to hear from him! > > I was fortunate enough to have my email reader set to reject > automatically downloading very large files so wasn't greatly > inconvenienced. However, after all the mail about this item > I am curious: was it good crap but just too long or was it > really junk? > > Regards - Jack > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?SXLpbullIE1lcmNpZXI=?=" Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 02 May 1998 10:19:04 -0400 Sorry, I only showed how to do it but it was not necessary for me to send= it in Plain text format. however, I hope this one is that format: In menu format, I clicked Plain Text In Options Send Menu, I clicked Plain Text in Mail Sending Format choices. Ir=E9n=E9e Mercier -o-o-o-o-o-o-o- -----Original Message----- > > >On Fri, 1 May 1998, [iso-8859-1] Ir=E9n=E9e Mercier wrote: > >> For Outlook Express: it's easy to get text only messages and to remove MIME formatting >Then how come you sent this one in HTML? > >Please, no more! If I'm in WinDOH!s, I use Pine on the school's mail >computer, and I can barely make out what is being said in these messages. >Good thing quoting converts it to normal text... > >Justin K. > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List >Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com >Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" >Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net >Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" > Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Justin A. Kolodziej" <4wg7kolodzie@vms.csd.mu.edu> Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 02 May 1998 10:30:06 -0500 Bob Margolis wrote: > > Jack Valero wrote: > > > . However, after all the mail about this item > > I am curious: was it good crap but just too long or was it > > really junk? > > > > I'm sure most of us on this list server can state that we had no need > for it. > It had a lot of gibberish pertaining to > Winfract, I think. Then it should have gone to the fractdev list IMHO. After all, it is sources for a Windows NT Fractint, which most of the people on the regular Fractint list would have no use for. It might have had a chance on the Fractdev list to be a little bit useful. But still, it's too big to be submitted without advance warning at the very least. Justin K. -- I sense a great disturbance in the Source. Justin A. Kolodziej I am 4wg7kolodzie@vms.csd.mu.edu Marquette University is http://www.mu.edu Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Justin A. Kolodziej" <4wg7kolodzie@vms.csd.mu.edu> Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 02 May 1998 10:32:15 -0500 Ir=E9n=E9e Mercier wrote: >=20 > Sorry, I only showed how to do it but it was not necessary for me t= o send it > in Plain text format. >=20 > however, I hope this one is that format: >=20 > In menu format, I clicked Plain Text >=20 > In Options Send Menu, I clicked Plain Text in Mail Sending Format c= hoices. >=20 > Ir=E9n=E9e Mercier It sure is, thanks. The rest of the list, I hope, will thank you too. No hard feelings I hope. It's just that the standing rule on the lis= t is plain text only. Justin A. Kolodziej --=20 I sense a great disturbance in the Source. Justin A. Kolodziej I am 4wg7kolodzie@vms.csd.mu.edu Marquette University is http://www.mu.edu Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) Two equation formula (long) Date: 02 May 1998 11:40:53 -0400 Angela Wilczynski wrote: > So....sounds like we have a potential good thing here. No broken arms and legs > out there because of the big post, I hope??? Just inconvenience??? > > Seems silly to hold a grudge. Welcome aboard Turner..... I am with Angela on this one. Now that we have an explanation and expressions of regret, my attitude too changes. In turn, I apologize for using the word 'crap' in this connection. I should have said 'weed' instead. As everyone knows, even a beautiful flower may be just a weed in a vegetable garden. Gedeon Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) Anyone porting... Date: 02 May 1998 08:46:47 -0700 At 06:56 AM 5/2/98 -0700, Wizzle wrote: >... >Seems silly to hold a grudge. Welcome aboard Turner..... I agree. However, just one more commentary on e-mail bombs and then I'll shut up. Unless I specifically request it, I NEVER want to see ANYTHING bigger than 200KB from ANYONE. A very good friend of mine (since 1971) sent a 1MB Heineken Easter post card. I chastized him mildly (only because of his privileged position) and asked him not to do it again, but forgave him because "it *was* pretty cool" (and because I have known him one score and seven years). I don't care if it's Reba and Zootie's greatest hits or nude pictures of Janet Jackson! (Okay, maybe I wouldn't mind the Janet pix ;o) ) The only two huge posts I would accept without issue would be either 1) a book of life's great secrets by God (you know, all of the good stuff he didn't reveal to the Jews, or Jesus' followers, or Mohammed, etc.) or 2) a book on how to get anything you desire by Lucifer (hey, it seems to work pretty well for politicians, CEOs, and Bill Gates!). (I know, Bill *is* Satan, right? Or is it Alan Greenspan? Or Chief "Justice" Rhenquist? Nope, must be Bill; the other two were born before Hitler ate lead.) Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Strik" Subject: (fractint) ICQ Number list - Rev.2 Date: 02 May 1998 16:50:50 +0100 A number of members have posted their ICQ numbers / nicknames on this list in the last couple of days. I've put them on this list for clarity reasons. Added Bob Margolis, Blake Hyde & Ralph Jones. Welcome. Added Paul D's #. Michael Bell - #11379737 Paul Derbyshire - #10423848 Andrew Duhan / Felix - #10363110 Alex Dukay - #8515817 Jon Fetting - #4024153 David Forbus - #2512475 Blake Hyde - #5411598 Ralph Jones - #11903613 Paul Lee - #8804332 Bob Margolis - #11924047 Irénée Mercier - #7217822 Nhan Nguyen - #341018 Christian Strik - #11760568 Angela Wilczynski (Wizzle) - #503044 / #1205072 I selected names and numbers by looking at mail subjects. I'm not suggesting this list is complete... Any members on ICQ, who haven't mailed their #s yet, or haven't been listed here (my fault then), please mail. Christian Strik Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: RE: (fractint) Anyone porting... Date: 02 May 1998 11:31:24 -0600 Turner wrote:. > There are close to 800 messages here and not one of them > has to do with the development of software. Software development is off topic for this list, although I don't enforce that much because the list members haven't strayed onto development topics enough for it to be a problem. If anyone is interested in fractint software development, email me privately. > I believe the stone soup group still exists somewhere... We do indeed exist. We have forgiven you, but understand the reason I didn't respond was that for a couple of days I was preoccupied with dealing with the results of your attachment :-(. I received about 15 copies of it through a 14K modem. I did glance at your file. It looked like you were trying to compile Winfract. I have no interest in this because Winfract is very old, and furthermore is just as tied to 16 bit segmented memory programming as the DOS fractint. Porting efforts to Win95 should probably start with the current Xfractint version, unless you are prepared to port the assembler to a flat memory environment. But as I said, such programming arcania are off topic for this list, so if you or anyone else wants to pursue this, let me know by private email. Tim Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: F.O.T.N. 30April98 Date: 02 May 1998 09:33:39 -0700 > From: kathy roth > To: Fractint@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (fractint) Re: F.O.T.N. 30April98 > Date: Friday, May 01, 1998 10:15 AM > > >>Doctor_Mouth { ; (c) Jay Hill, 1998 > > What a great uvula! Too many fractal mouths leave > out the uvula. > Yea, pretty disgusting, come to think of it. You may find the next (May 2) FotN quite a surprise. Dr. E puts on a special dress for a special spy mission. I think she is learning some of Dr. J's tricks. But since she isn't a Mad Scientist, perhaps she will not get into trouble. Jim, I really like New Mandy Minibrot. That has a lot to explore. If Dr. E runs into Zombie's Face on her next mission, I think that would bring it to an untimely end. And thanks for the map, now we know where headquarters is. Jay Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: (fractint) Ghost Julias and a bug Date: 02 May 1998 09:43:36 -0700 comment { ; commentary and pars by Bud 5/2/98 I've been playing with Kerry's Ghost formulas, and have a couple to show and a Fractint bug. Sorry about the obscure names; they're derived from a lineage coded naming scheme I was using in 1991. The palette is only my second bipolar palette, and is loosely based on a Wizzle palette (did I say "palette" often enough?) About the bug: it involves what I call "core drag", where the program encounters the interior of the set and keeps plotting interior color even though the coordinates should escape. The problem is not unique to this formula; I have encountered it in several gravijul images. It can be cleared by increasing maxiter, but only if all points are outside the set. The third image was the best result I could get - all other pass methods were even worse. I have included an edited copy of the formula, with apologies to Kerry (but I figured better than getting nicked for not including it at all). Bud } gm32j11 { ; m32j1 in ghost mode: "subtle" - (c) Bud 4/29/98 ; a L. K. Mitchell formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=filist.frm formulaname=ghost_jul passes=t center-mag=0/0.14358/1.82 params=-1.250996/0.016863/4/0.07000000000000001 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=200 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=G7E<6>67N47O58P<4>7DS8ET9FUAGUAGU<45>lyymzzmyz<44>CHXBGWAFV9EU9 DT\ 8CT<3>58Q57P67O<10>K7AL78M77O75P86<52>yxkyylzzmzzmyyl<53>Q87P76O77<4>H7D cyclerange=0/255 } gm32j12 { ; m32j1 in ghost mode: "bold" - (c) Bud 4/29/98 ; a L. K. Mitchell formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=filist.frm formulaname=ghost_jul passes=t center-mag=0/0.14358/1.82 params=-1.250996/0.016863/4/0.8 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=200 decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=P76<13>67M47O58P<5>8ET9FUAGUAGU<45>lyymzzmyz<44>CHXBGWAFV9EU9DT 8C\ T<3>58Q57P67O<12>M77O75P86<54>zzmzzmyyl<53>Q87 cyclerange=0/255 } ghjp2a { ; ghjp2 in ghost mode - (c) Bud 4/29/98 ; has "core drag" bug reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=filist.frm formulaname=ghost_jul passes=t center-mag=5.78e-006/-8.65e-007/0.6666663 params=0.2875/0.01095/4/1 float=y maxiter=300 decomp=256 colors=G7E<7>47O<6>8ET9FUAGUAGU<45>lyymzzmyz<44>CHXBGWAFV9EU9DT8CT<3>5 8Q\ 57P67O<12>M77O75P86<54>zzmzzmyyl<53>Q87P76O77<4>H7D } frm:ghost_jul { ; Kerry Mitchell maxr=real(p2), scale=imag(p2)*pi/128 ol2=1/log(2), fac=log(0.5*log(maxr)) iter=1, zc=pixel, c=p1, background=pixel : iter=iter+1, zc=sqr(zc)+c if ((|zc|>maxr)||(iter==maxit)) smooth=(iter+ol2*(fac-log(log(cabs(zc)))))*scale angle=cos(smooth)+flip(sin(smooth)) z=background*angle if (iter==maxit) z=background endif iter=-1 endif iter>0 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James R. McKenzie" Subject: (fractint) Please, Enough about Turner's mistake! Date: 02 May 1998 11:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Please leave Turner Rentz alone! I know his mistake was painful for everyone in one way or another on this list but I don't believe he did it out of malice, just inexperience. Turner if your out there I did the same type of thing when I first joined, I posted ORGFORM.ZIP to the list and everyone took turns ripping me a new ass for the pleasure too. Stick it out, stay on the list. Any time a convenience becomes temporarily out of reach everyone wants to scream the "REBEL YELL" and start slashing at who/what ever caused the problem. I took my lumps and bear the scars but I kept going and I might have accidentally said something of a quasi-useful nature once or twice. E-Mail is a damn nice thing to have and in some cases the nature of ones work might make it a true nessessity but this is for the most part a "HOBBY" listserv, most of us don't make a dime from FRACTINT. It's something we do for fun. Yes, alot of us receive "ALL" of our E-Mail through the same E-Mail account but that's by choice to some degree (the free E-Mail for life accounts work folks, I know this because I'm using one NOW, I actually have 2 FREE accounts "AND" a regular E-Mail account with my ISP) and can in most cases be rectified by trying one of the freebie account providers. I use both Yahoo and Alta Vista accounts. They both limit your space to about 3 meg., but Still I haven't been botched as of yet including the BIG BAD file attachment. My only problem is storing the posts with Par's, MAp's & Frm's from XMISSION & Fractal-Art. They take up 3 meg in a hurry. Yahoo lets me know way ahead of time though so I can clear out any old stuff and make more room. I only keep 'em til Les St. Clair posts them in the FML files on his C-Serve site the following month. Please people, Turner most likely didn't know what would happen or did it on an impulse. He most likely feels like hell for It. That pound of flesh don't come off easily and it ain't gonna be anything he gets over any time soon either. Just trying to be a voice of reason here. Now you can all attack me again and maybe turner can run for the hills. Flame privately please. James R. McKenzie WHOOKAM88@YAHOO.COM _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carolyn Subject: (fractint) Re:Fractal Chatting Date: 02 May 1998 13:13:50 -0500 Is this still going on and do you have a specfic day or everyday?? >If anyone would like to join us, Paul Carlson and I will be trying out IRC >chatting at 8PM Pacific Standard Time on the Undernet. We will be in >#fractals -- Carolyn car34slmo@worldnet.att.net http://www.quiknet.com/~jilld/beadwork2.htm Jesus is the Light of the world, the Bread of life and the Salvation of your soul. Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Weldon Morgan" Subject: (fractint) Filtering images with Fractint Date: 02 May 1998 13:21:29 -0500 Part of the reason I became interested in Fractint had to do with the possibility of improving the resolution of photographic images through the use of fractel technology. As I understand it, one can use the fractel algorithm to simulate the pixel information that does not exist in the original image. Does anyone on this list have any information on this process, or can point me in the right direction Weldon Morgan Boston, MA USA wmorgans@tiac.net Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Earl Simpson" Subject: Re: (fractint) Please, Enough about Turner's mistake! Date: 02 May 1998 16:45:41 -0500 -----Original Message----- James R. McKenzie wrote: >Please leave Turner Rentz alone! > Flame privately please. > > James R. McKenzie > And I say well said James. In addition, for those of us that are perfect, let's go for a walk , on WATER. Earl Simpson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) Filtering images with Fractint Date: 02 May 1998 14:55:09 -0700 At 01:21 PM 5/2/98 -0500, Weldon Morgan wrote: >... >Does anyone on this list have any information on this >process, or can point me in the right direction Probably the best place to start would be Iterated Systems, a company started by mathematician Michael Barnlsey and the DoD. They developed fractal image compression software for ? (well, you can guess) and later marketed commercial derivatives. It used to be quite pricey, but I understand prices have come down and various discounts (educational use, etc.) are available. Michael also wrote one of my favorite texts, "Fractals Everywhere", which I highly recommend to fractal fiends. I'm sure others would be interested to hear about what you discover in your search. Bud Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) self-similarity Date: 02 May 1998 17:36:07 -0700 > From: James R. McKenzie > To: fractint@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (fractint) self-similarity > Date: Monday, April 27, 1998 7:40 AM > > OK, I've seen a lot self-similar areas before but this one continues to > befuddle me. All self-similar areas I have seen before, well, look > self-similar. For example a spiral. But this one doesn't look like any > spiral I've seen before. I zoomed in to about 1+e20 and have yet to see > a > minibrot at the center. If anybody else has seen something like please > enlighten me. > > full image: http://152.228.63.174/ftp_cnspace/fract186.gif > jcamp1 { ; jon camp ; http://www.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/index.html reset=1960 type=mandel center-mag=+0.2834829571632703/+0.01034503912890549/1.719957e+10 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=1024 colors=C0C5PP<60>czzczzbyy<52>1LLUF0\ <54>zzrzzrzyq<66>WI3VH2VG1UF00KK<2>1\ LL1LL2MM2NN<2>4OO } > > jon camp > valparaiso university This is a pretty self-similar pattern. If you back off to where it is no longer self similar, you can see nearby midgets easily. At the 10^10 zoom above, the midgets are like 10^-20 and hard to find. Here is my take on the backed off version and a nearby midget which you can zoom in on. Jay jcamp1-backoff { ; jon camp ; http://www.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/index.html ; A complicated self-similar point. Nearby midgets are ; the S shaped patterns like the one 1/2 way to upper left reset=1960 type=mandel center-mag=+0.28348295716327/+0.01034503912890549/1.238605e+008 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=1024 colors=C0C5PP<60>czzczzbyy<52>1LLUF0\ <54>zzrzzrzyq<65>WJ4WI3VH2VG1UF00KK<\ 2>1LL1LL2MM2NN<2>4OO } jcamp1-backoff2 { ; jon camp ; http://www.valpo.edu/home/student/jcamp/index.html ; Here is a nearby midget with ; the S shaped pattern reset=1960 type=mandel center-mag=+0.283482953176237/+0.01034504196108545/2.20497e+008 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=10240 colors=C0C5PP<60>czzczzbyy<52>1LLUF0\ <54>zzrzzrzyq<65>WJ4WI3VH2VG1UF00KK<\ 2>1LL1LL2MM2NN<2>4OO } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davides Subject: (fractint) lava_tube par Date: 02 May 1998 21:02:50 -0400 The following par is a modification of a fractal/par I came up with a while ago. It is based on one of Paul Carlson's frms' as is indicated: ============================================================================> lava_tube { ; Frm:Cosh_Rings_Mset (c) Paul Carlson, 1998 ; Par: Copyright (c) David Shanholtzer, 1998 ; color map: skydye12 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=cosh_rings_mset passes=t center-mag=-1.84013726187951500/-1.70603000000000000/48.34952/1/-17.499 params=1.16/0/8/0 float=y maxiter=2500 inside=zmag outside=summ finattract=y colors=000F1C<3>O2J<8>31a00d04f<8>0cz<7>05g00d20b<8>O2J<12>101201<8>M2HO\ 2JS2H<8>z00<8>zs0zv0zs0<7>z00<9>O2J<2>K2FI2EG2DE2BD2A<5>212000000<4>D1AF\ 1CH1DJ1FM2HO2JK2LK2N<6>30b00d04f<8>0cz<7>05g00d20b<8>O2J<13>000<4>A07C19\ D19D1AE1B<4>Y1Bb2Cf1A<4>z00<8>zs0zv0zs0<7>z00<9>O2J<13>000<5>D1A } If you do not have the .frm, I will be happy to forward it to you providing Paul Carlson has no objections. davides@pipeline.com Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Synthlab@interpath.com (Robert Shanks) Subject: Re: (fractint) Xfractint on Linux Date: 02 May 1998 20:28:27 -0500 >Fractint-List, > >Sorry for that last message, I didn't intend for it to be list-wide. > >Anyone want to see the latest in Fractint for the Macintosh? I could >enclose it in an email. haha. just kidding. no, really ;-) > No, really... no haha. I have Macs and PCs but do more design stuff on the Mac. I would love to see a Mac Fractint! What can I send you to help out?... cases of Jolt Cola? Bags of money? Dancing girls? Cheers, Robert Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Synthlab@interpath.com (Robert Shanks) Subject: (fractint) fractals n' music Date: 02 May 1998 20:41:01 -0500 For example: a majestically beautiful and complex fractal >like Kathy Roth's recent "Godhead" could appear dissolving to the final >chords of Mahler's Resurrection Symphony. Paul Carlson's "bubbly" >fractals would go well with Vivaldi bassoon concerti. And what about Dr. >J's humorous stuff? Perhaps Alban Berg's Violin Concerto, though some >would say that the latter is not funny. The gravijuls are definitely >suited to Haydn String Quartets, in my opinion. And Jim Muth's fantastic >output ranges anywhere from Bach to Shostakovich. As for my own >creations, I modestly prefer to view them silently. > >Gedeon COOL!!! now there's an idea! the next time you post a par - post what music might be good with it. Now I know everybody has different taste, but now let's not be afraid of that! I'm a musician so this clicks with me, but it would be really interesting to see where the rest of the fractal community is coming from. Cheers, Robert Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Synthlab@interpath.com (Robert Shanks) Subject: Re: (fractint) Music for fractal animations....... Date: 02 May 1998 20:44:53 -0500 >Aphex Twin, Enigma, Orbital, or any other good techno band. > >Or maybe Einsturzende Neubauten for the more chaotic pieces. :) Don't forget the Shamen. RS Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: Re: (fractint) lava_tube par Date: 02 May 1998 20:47:47 -0500 (CDT) >lava_tube { ; Frm:Cosh_Rings_Mset (c) Paul Carlson, 1998 > ; Par: Copyright (c) David Shanholtzer, 1998 [snip] Nice image, David - uncluttered and dramatic. >If you do not have the .frm, I will be happy to forward it to you providing >Paul Carlson has no objections. No objections at all - that's what I post them for - to be used. Paul Carlson Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THADDAEUS PARKER Subject: (fractint) ICQ Number List--Revision Date: 03 May 1998 02:17:18 Thanks for the list, Christian. Felix has set up an ICQ fractsl group at http://groups.icq.com/group.asp?no28214 It is amazing how many people across the world have a fractal mindset! I am still working on my original pars and frms. There are so many to look at and comment on that I am running out of HDD space real fast. Especially for the small laptop that I use. Keep up the "Deep Zooming"! Cheers, Thadd. Thaddaeus Parker US Marine Guard American Embassy Cairo ICQ# 3304633 ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: (fractint) gravellipse pars Date: 02 May 1998 22:31:54 -0400 Thanks to Kathy Roth we have another nice variation of the gravijul formula. Needless to say, I could not resist exploring it. Here are 10 pars. Gedeon *************************************************************** gp-gel-01 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 02, 1998 ; Kathy Roth's variation of Mark Christenson's ; gravijul formula ; Droz8 map reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=ident/log/log passes=t center-mag=4.90595/-1.55431e-015/1.196079/1/90 params=1/0/0/0/-1/1 float=y inside=111 outside=atan colors=000d``<3>jiikkkjii<4>b__aYY`WW_UUYSS<13>G00WG0\ <21>yxUzzWyyU<21>XI1WG0WG1<29>yVizWkyVh<14>WG0G00<22>\ zWG<23>G000WWGWW0WW0WW<8>kkk`gg<17>0WW\ WOO<10>kkk<18>H22G00G00<15>bZZ } gp-gel-02 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 01, 1998 ; Kathy Roth's variation of Mark Christenson's ; gravijul formula ; Droz8 map reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=ident/flip/log passes=t center-mag=-2.22045e-016/0/0.7473842 params=1/0/0/0/-1/1 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=atan colors=000zs_zt`zuazvczu`<30>eLA<14>pcRqdSqcR<13>fQCeP\ BdPB<14>XI8G00<19>ypE<11>YK8<26>wmJwnKvlJ<15>eLAzp0zp0\ XI5<27>yx_zy`zyazya<30>XI5sI0<26>zqZ } gp-gel-03 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 01, 1998 ; Kathy Roth's variation of Mark Christenson's ; gravijul formula ; Color map by Ray Girvan reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=ident/exp/log passes=t center-mag=-4.44089e-015/7.77156e-016/0.3758171/1/-20 params=1/0/0/0/0.1/-0.1 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=atan colors=ZG5ZG5<2>bMBdODfQFhSHiUK<8>xlc<10>HDCDA9976543000\ <15>zqk<12>uaPt`Nt_LsYJsYJrXI<12>gN8fM7gN9<13>vj`xlcxkb\ <11>sXIrWGrVEqTCpTCoSC<10>aM9`M8_L8YK7YK7<14>MB4<12>n`R\ qbTsdVvgXvfW<13>pTBoR9nR9<12>`H6_H5ZG5YG5XF5<13>G6\ 3<15>tbQ<14>kPAjO8jO8<13>_H6 } gp-gel-04 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 01, 1998 ; Kathy Roth's variation of Mark Christenson's ; gravijul formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=ident/asin/cotanh passes=1 center-mag=-2.22045e-016/8.88178e-016/0.7791667 params=1/0/0/0/2/2 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=atan potential=255/255/0 invert=0.668449197860963/0/0 colors=000NNT<10>cdieejddi<14>JKQ00z<14>0zz<15>00z5Mf\ <21>TeuUfvTev<22>5MfFLM<14>bhj<15>FLM03g<22>`bz<22>\ 25h03g0Wz<14>00W<15>0WzFLM<14>bhj<15>FLMJKQLLS } gp-gel-05 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 01, 1998 ; Kathy Roth's variation of Mark Christenson's ; gravijul formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=exp/asin/asin passes=t center-mag=0.569579/-8.88178e-015/0.7232194/0.2028/90 params=1/0/0/0/2/1 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=atan colors=000aD1<6>W90V80WA1<7>iQIjSKlVNmXPoZR<2>tdY<10>\ D56923500100000000300723<12>vie<12>qUJpTHpSFoQDoQDnPC\ <12>cF2bE1cF3<13>rbVtdYtcX<11>oPCnOAnN8mL6lL6kK6<10>\ YE3XE2WD2UC1UC1<14>I30K50<11>jTLmVNoXPr_RrZQ<13>lL5k\ J3jJ3<12>X90W90V80U80T70<9>H10G00F00D00C00F00H20<13>\ pVK<14>gH4fG2fG2<5>aD1 } gp-gel-06 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 02, 1998 ; Kathy Roth's variation of Mark Christenson's ; gravijul formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=cos/log/log passes=t center-mag=4.71466/-2.22045e-015/0.3633303/1.2568/90 params=1/0/0.6666666999999999/0/1/11 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=atan colors=000P55<5>L55K55K55K55<2>K55UKH<3>UKHVKHVLHWL\ HWMH<2>ZNH_OH`PHaQHbQH<4>iWIjXIlYInZI<3>ucJweJyfJzh\ JziJziJzhJ<2>ucJsbJraJp`InZIlYI<5>cRHbQHaQH<2>ZNHYNH\ XMHWMHWLH<2>UKHUKHUKHUKHUKH6K6<5>6L67L67L67M78M78N7\ <4>BR8CS9CT9DUAEVAFVA<8>NeFNfFNfF<8>FXBFVAEVA<3>BR8A\ Q8AP89O89O7<2>7M77L67L66L6<5>6K6ZUK<3>ZUK_VL_VL`WLaWM\ <5>f_Pg`QhbR<3>mfUogVphXrjYskZtl_vm`xoaypbzrczsdzs\ dzrcypbxoavm`<4>ogVmfUleU<3>g`Qf_Pe_P<2>bXNaXMaWM`WL_V\ L<6>ZUKK55<4>K55L55L55M55N55<4>R55R55T55<5>_55a55b55d55\ e55f55h55j55k55l55l55k55j55h55<8>W55V55U55T55R55R55Q55 } gp-gel-07 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 02, 1998 ; Kathy Roth's variation of Mark Christenson's ; gravijul formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=sin/ident/ident passes=t center-mag=4.71466/-1.33227e-015/1.070735/1.2568/90 params=1/0/0.6666666999999999/0/1.3/11 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=atan invert=0.917438968984866/4.71466163633486/0 colors=000bC0aA0aA0<23>yM_zNazNbzOd<2>zPhzQjzPgzOdzNa\ <12>aA0M00<3>U01W02Y23<12>xKCzLCzNDzOEzQF<2>zMDyKCwJB\ <12>Y23W02U01<3>M006QVMQV6QV6QV<8>qejfaf<17>6QVaIN<10>\ qej<15>S38R16P04N01M00M00N01P03Q05<18>qej<19>R27Q05O03N0\ 1M00aA0bC0<14>wfLxhMyjOzlPznQ<2>ztV<4>zkOyiNwgL<14>cE1 } gp-gel-08 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 02, 1998 ; Kathy Roth's variation of Mark Christenson's ; gravijul formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=asin/sinh/flip passes=t center-mag=6.66134e-016/-1.33227e-015/0.4790338 params=1/-1/0/0/-5/0.25 float=y inside=111 outside=atan colors=000kdT<3>f_PeZOdZO<2>aWM`WL`VL_VKZUK<6>YTJJ44\ <4>J44K44K44L44M44<4>Q44Q44S44<5>Z44`44a44c44d44e44g\ 44i44j44k44k44j44i44g44<8>V44U44T44S44Q44<5>M44L44K44\ K44J44J44<3>J44TJG<3>TJGUJGUKGVKGVLG<2>YMGZNG_OG`PGaPG\ <4>hVHiWHkXHmYH<3>tbIvdIxeIzgIzhIzhIzgI<2>tbIraIq`Io_H\ mYHkXH<5>bQGaPG`PG<2>YMGXMGWLGVLGVKG<2>TJGTJGTJGTJGTJG\ 5J5<5>5K56K56K56L67L67M6<4>AQ7BR8BS8CT9DU9EU9<8>MdEMeE\ MeE<8>EWAEU9DU9<3>AQ79P79O78N78N6<2>6L66K56K55K5<5>5J5Y\ TJ<3>YTJZUKZUK_VK`VL<5>eZOf_PgaQ<3>leTnfUogWqiXrjY<3>\ xoazqbzrczrczqb<2>ul_skZrjYqiX<2>leT } gp-gel-09 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 02, 1998 ; Kathy Roth's variation of Mark Christenson's ; gravijul formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=asinh/sin/flip passes=1 center-mag=4.44089e-015/-3.55271e-015/0.237121/1/19.999 params=1/-1/0.1/0/-3/0.25 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=atan colors=G006m2<23>I22<26>vTTxUUyVVzWWzYYzXXzWW<28>J33I22I22\ <28>3Vx2Wz2Yz2Xz<29>H34I22I22<26>v2Tx2Uy2Vz2Wz2Yz2X<30>\ 222I22<28>3x22z22z22z2<5>5o2 } gp-gel-10 { ; (c) Gedeon Peteri, May 02, 1998 ; Kathy Roth's variation of Mark Christenson's ; gravijul formula reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gravellipse function=asinh/ident/sin passes=1 center-mag=1.1953/-0.250653/18.16189 params=1/-1/0.1/0/-3/0.25 float=y maxiter=1023 outside=atan colors=000<13>000W00<27>xUFzWGyVG<20>W000an<5>0qu0tw0wx0zz0zz\ <28>0fq0ep0ep0ep<46>0Og000<95>000CCCFFF } frm:gravellipse { ;5-1-98 kathy roth ;variation of gravijul by Mark Christenson z = pixel, a=real(p3), b=imag(p3): w = fn1(z) z = fn3(p1/fn2(w*w)) + p2 real(z) * real(z)/ a + imag(z) * imag(z)/b < 1 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay Hill" Subject: Re: (fractint) First par Posting Date: 02 May 1998 20:12:50 -0700 > From: Fiddler (GBushta) > To: fractint > Subject: (fractint) First par Posting > Date: Tuesday, April 28, 1998 10:43 PM > > Hi, > I thought I would share a par that was working on. I've been lurking > on this list for a week and know I have a lot to learn about Fractint > before I make fractals as beautiful as the veterans. If you have any > helpful information on how I can make this picture better please say. I > may not understand right off, as I only have had Fractint for less than > 2 weeks. > Greg > AKA: Japan > > ----------------- svale01 { ; Secret Valley Japan ; Calctime 0:01:05.75 at 1024x768 on a Pentium200MMX ; Thanks to Gumbycat for the Fractint Coloring Sites ; gbushta@zapcom.net reset=1960 type=mandel center-mag=-1.47460035097284100/-0.00000115953043036/2922.064/1/-90 params=2.5/0 float=y maxiter=1500000000 inside=0 colors=00023b<10>Ucz<14>XXe<2>eee<9>X\ UKWSHVRFUPDTOBSM8XQ0<4>A80<8>mm0<11\ >0Z0<10>000<30>0000U0<8>0m00U0<5>0f10\ h20j20m30U0<9>0m3<2>0U2<5>8F2AC2AC2\ <18>11B00C00D00D<5>00f00k00r00z<8>00J<58>00` } > > Very nice image. I found this jewel down in the corner... I'm reminded of plants outgrowing their pots. svale01-a { ; Secret Valley (zoom in by JRH) Japan ; Calctime 0:01:05.75 at 1024x768 on a Pentium200MMX ; Thanks to Gumbycat for the Fractint Coloring Sites ; gbushta@zapcom.net reset=1960 type=mandel center-mag=-1.47447128661240700/-0.00008891357300310/81754.54/0.8415/37.\ 499/32.704 params=2.5/0 float=y maxiter=1500000000 inside=0 colors=00023b<10>Ucz<6>V`pFKmW_m<5>X\ Xe<2>eee<7>ZWOYVMXUKWSHVRFUPDTOBSM8X\ Q0<4>A80<3>SR0KRq<2>R`xUczUcyUbwVbvX\ h0<7>0Z0<10>000<30>0000U0<8>0m00U0<5\ >0f10h20j20m30U0<9>0m3<2>0U2<5>8F2AC\ 2AC2<18>11B00C00D00D<5>00f00k00r00z<\ 8>00J<58>00` } Jay Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) A formula and five pars Date: 02 May 1998 22:10:01 -0500 (CDT) comment { I spent some time today playing around with my rings rendering method and the equation I used yesterday for the flexball spirals. This formula and pars are the result. Notes on the pars: eqn6m01 - Nice symmetry around a midget. eqn6m02 - Colorful, chaotic, different. eqn6m03 - Parabolic(?) pattern. eqn6m04 - Island of order in a sea of chaos eqn6m05 - Abstract pattern Paul Carlson } frm:Eqn6_R4 {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; real(p1) = size factor ; imag(p1) = number of iterations to skip ; real(p2) = number of color ranges ; imag(p2) = number of colors in a range ; z = w = iter = range_num = bailout = 0 c = pixel size = real(p1) skip_iters = imag(p1) num_ranges = real(p2) colors_in_range = imag(p2) index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / size : w = c * ((w - 1)^2) / ((w + 1)^2) ; IF (iter > skip_iters) dist = abs(|w - k| - 0.1) IF (dist < size) bailout = 1 ENDIF ENDIF IF (bailout) z = index_factor * dist + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 1.0e20 } eqn6m01 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=eqn6r4.frm formulaname=eqn6_r4 passes=t center-mag=-2.15511064346413800/+0.00000000000000058/3450.60\ 8/1/-90 params=0.08/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0 colors=000zqa<123>WRFz88<123>O00000<3>000 } eqn6m02 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=eqn6r4.frm formulaname=eqn6_r4 passes=t center-mag=-0.20853961584102130/+0.95807796299146630/1236.69\ 6/1/52.499 params=0.08/20/8/30 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0 colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG0\ 0zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000 } eqn6m03 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=eqn6r4.frm formulaname=eqn6_r4 passes=1 center-mag=+0.40677900000000000/+0.00000000000000010/49.5314\ 7/1/-90 params=0.12/10/2/125 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0 colors=000zzz<123>OOOzVz<123>C0C000<3>000 } eqn6m04 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=eqn6r4.frm formulaname=eqn6_r4 passes=t center-mag=+0.39850164017763030/+0.07933871102330729/299.771\ 8/1/169 params=0.098/20/2/125 float=y maxiter=500 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0 colors=000zz0<123>aG0zzz<123>VVV000<3>000 } eqn6m05 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=eqn6r4.frm formulaname=eqn6_r4 passes=1 center-mag=-4.5394/9.99201e-016/1.961852/1/-90 params=0.09/11/8/30 float=y maxiter=2000 inside=253 outside=summ invert=1/0/0 colors=000z0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00zR<28>0C4\ 0zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0K000<13>000 } Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Derbyshire Subject: Re: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime Date: 02 May 1998 23:25:21 -0400 Kragen wrote: > Impressive! > > I think you mean '20 LANned Linux servers running X clients'. No, there are 20 X servers, for connecting and doing work. Generally users pick the one with the lowest load and log on with an X client. > Presumably they were not all running a single instance of XFmail, > though, since normally such programs run on only one machine at a > time. I'm really rather puzzled about what might have caused this > fault to propagate... what version of Linux was it? Haven't a clue, the university computer science department runs it, not I. Anyways, XFMail bombed, it must have done something really BAD to the X server I had logged onto, because apparently it took the whole thing down... > > hung, bombing the X client and Windows NT (on which the X client was running). > > 'X client' is something like XFmail, xterm, what have you, that uses > the facilities provided by the 'X server' -- namely, access to > keystrokes and screen graphics. So the server runs on your desktop, > and the client runs in the data center. Weird. I was referring here to the client program used to log on the X server machine and run programs remotely on it, which presents the GUI locally and accepts your input... seems there's some mixup of terminology because there are 2 kinds of client... This was XWin32, the other client the XFMail program, and the X server and XFMail running on one of 20 linked X machines... > > Is [TkRat] written with that Tcl/Tk thing I keep hearing about? > Yep. BTW, you can get Tcl/Tk (with great docs and lots of examples) > for Win32 and the Mac; I think www.scriptics.com or sunscript.sun.com > might be good places to start. It's *great*. What is it, exactly? -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line." ------------------------------------------------- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html _____________________ ____|________ Paul Derbyshire pderbysh@usa.net Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848| Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: Re: (fractint) April Par Collection Date: 02 May 1998 21:03:34 -0700 Les... Thanks once more for this great service. I decided to dump my monthly pars and stick to yours since they are more complete. Angela Les St Clair wrote: > > Hi all, > > The Fractint List par collection for April is now available for download at: > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/ > > Don't forget to update your .frm collection while you're there! > > BTW, a few pars posted on the 30th Apr. actually showed up on my server on 1st > May, these will, of course, appear in next month's collection. > > Enjoy! > > - Les Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion L