From: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com (fractint-digest) To: fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: fractint-digest V1 #191 Reply-To: fractint-digest Sender: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-fractint-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk fractint-digest Tuesday, May 5 1998 Volume 01 : Number 191 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 18:10:22 -0700 From: "Mike and Linda Allison" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re:Tierazon { flariums lil bro' } Steve wrote: >I messed with both for about 6 hours...cute....nice bells and whistles ...but >they made it obvious that fractint is the mother of all generators. Please let's not make this personal. I use both programs - Fractint and Tiera-Zon. They are quite different. The attributes of each makes it impossible to compare them to each other. I like apples and I like oranges. And both the Stone Soup Group and Stephen Ferguson are brilliant and generous to make these wonderful freeware programs freely available. Let's try not to compare them and decide which is "better" and which is "worse." >Have fun. That's the spirit! Linda http://www.fractalus.com/gumbycat/ (last update 4/29/98) http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519 (last update 5/1/98) http://www.toptown.com/innercircle/gumbycat/index.html (last update 3/20/98) - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 01:30:03 -0600 From: Ray Montgomery Subject: (fractint) Can't let Glass pass... Glass happens to be my current composer of choice. Yes. Even though on a desert island I would choose to have the five Late Quartettes by LVB. The quartettes would not be good as Fractint music, although I play it in the BG often, while at the computer, as I do Mozart, Sibelius, Mahler, Debussey etc., etc., etc.. Jim Muth mentioned Koyaanisqatsi which I go to sleep with using earphones, and there is also the truly wrenching Powaqqatsi as well as the Low Symphony from a David Bowie number - all by Glass, any of which could be used for a fractal show. But, the bottom line, is STILL, to each his own. YOU make the fractal, YOU choose the music that you think goes with it. Then every one's happy. Me, I like most music. I like most fractals. I LOVE Fractint. I love to read all your messages. I love my little grand-daughter. Sorry wizzle. About Glass, I mean. It's just a style. You don't have to like it. Ray - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 09:52:35 +0200 From: Peter Otterstaetter Subject: Re: (fractint) Aplause Earl Simpson wrote: > Bob Carr wrote: > > Les, > > You did a GREAT job with the April Par Collection. Let's give Les a round > of >aplause. > Agreed. Hip Hip Horay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In deed!! Aplause, aplause ... Keep on the great work. Aplause, aplause!! Peter - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 02:44:09 -0500 From: "Paul N. Lee" Subject: Re: (fractint) Music to watch fractals by. Jim Muth wrote: > > It was named something like Koyanisqatsi, and featured > music by Glass. > "Koyaanisqatsi" (from the Hopi language) n. 1. crazy life. 2. life in turmoil. 3. life disintegrating. 4. life out of balance. 5. a state of life that calls for another way of living. The title song by Philip Glass was rather different from the other five pieces of original music composed for the film. It was rather somber and deep, like some diabolical monk's chant (that's why I enjoyed it so). It made a perfect soundtrack for an old silent movie I recorded once: NOSFERATU, EINE SYMPHONIE DES GRAUENS The other songs: Vessels; Cloudscape; Pruit Igoe; The Grid; and Prophecies would definitely work well with many fractal animations. P.N.L. - ------------------------------------------------- Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. - ------------------------------------------------- http://www.fractalus.com/cgi-bin/theway?ring=fractals&id=43&go - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 17:39:06 +1200 From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: (fractint) Music to watch fractals by. At 23:50 04/05/98 -0400, Jim Muth wrote: > >Fractalnauts: > >For a week or so, I've been trying to think of music that would >best augment a fractal animation. This evening, I finally >thought of it. It's so obvious that I don't see how it could >have been overlooked this long. > >The music is the opening to "Einstein on the Beach", an opera >by Philip Glass. > This is amusing, since science fiction author Greg Egan, (one of my favourite authors) in his novel _Permutation City_ (one of my favourite novels), has one of the characters put exactly this opera on to play in the background while running some very elaborate software (complete with nifty graphics!) Morgan. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 06:52:57 -0400 From: Sylvie Gallet Subject: (fractint) Wonderful pars!!! Hi All, I am currently involved in a very interesting but very time consuming work that eats up all my free time and I can't keep up with the intense activity of this discussion list. I just take the time to generate the images at a very low resolution and most of them are still awaiting to be= generated at 1600x1200. The queue is getting longer and longer..... Anyway, thanks everybody for all of your wonderful pars!!! Cheers, - Sylvie - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 07:22:58 EDT From: SKarl52884 Subject: Re: (fractint) Re:Tierazon re:'opinion' In a message dated 98-05-05 03:15:18 EDT, you write: << Steve wrote: >I messed with both for about 6 hours...cute....nice bells and whistles ...but >they made it obvious that fractint is the mother of all generators. Please let's not make this personal. I use both programs - Fractint and Tiera-Zon. They are quite different. The attributes of each makes it impossible to compare them to each other. I like apples and I like oranges. And both the Stone Soup Group and Stephen Ferguson are brilliant and generous to make these wonderful freeware programs freely available. Let's try not to compare them and decide which is "better" and which is "worse." >Have fun. That's the spirit! >> Sorry. I tought every one realized..."It only my opinion." Its your opinion that the differences in them make them uncomparable. Thats ok with me.{ I can agree to disagree} I realize thats how ' you ' see it but you might want to consider that all might not see it the same way. To attempt to limit points of view you don't agree with is you right also, but once again....in my opinion ...we choose to take it personally or not....that 'might' be a limitation also. Sincerely, Steve P.S. I have great admiration for the developers of fractint and tierazon. They 'both' have done the world of free expression a great service. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 09:06:36 EDT From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint)exploring Gallet-6-8 Hi there, Here are some Pars. Steve 005-Jester { ; (c)Steve Karl 4/19/98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=recip/sin/zero passes=t center-mag=-0.46341/-0.381017/0.1274893/1/44.999 params=1/0/2/0/99/0 maxiter=1410065407 inside=99 potential=256/200/33 invert=2.61459764833333/0/0 colors=nru_UMYRKXQKWPJUMHSJF<6>EAb<6>7Nu5Px5Nu<5>A5c<2>D6WE7UG8SH9QJANKB\ LKBLOEK<5>_VZ`Y`b`cdcf<2>jlolorlpr<14>OI5<6>eYJg_LiaNkcPneR<4>zpa<4>jdWg\ aVcZT`WSYUR<6>AAK<3>ALQAOSARUBUWBXY<6>DqlDtnCql<6>7Ta<6>L4R<8>VHI<7>zH0<\ 8>SDF<3>N3JL0KL1KM2KN3KO4J<12>zz0<7>``9YYAXVB<6>KAJMAKOAM<12>ziF<13>K8C4\ 13000<15>svcsvcsvcsvc<9>aWN } 002-NoChess { ; (c)Steve Karl 4/20/98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=sqr/flip/cosh passes=1 center-mag=-0.698436/-0.146233/0.08159334 params=11/0/10/0/1/0 maxiter=1410065407 inside=99 potential=256/200/99/16bit colors=0000Q0<11>020000000<14>000110330<29>zz0<30>220000000<29>000000200\ <29>zKU<30>211000000<14>000010030<29>0z0<17>0S0 } 003-Omelt { ; (c)Steve Karl 4/20/98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=sqr/flip/cosh passes=1 center-mag=-0.698388/-0.146233/0.08159334 params=1/0/10/0/1/0 maxiter=1410065407 inside=99 potential=256/200/16959/16bit colors=0000Q0<11>020000000<14>000110330<29>zz0<30>220000000<29>000000200\ <29>zKU<30>211000000<14>000010030<29>0z0<17>0S0 } 004-KingMidas { ; (c)Steve Karl 4/22/98 "The Arm of King Midas" reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=abs/ident/atanh center-mag=6.01031/2.10444/0.08159334 params=11/0/10/0/1/0 maxiter=1410065407 inside=99 potential=256/200/99 colors=0000Q0<11>020000000<14>000110330<29>zz0<30>220000000<29>000000200\ <29>zKU<30>211000000<14>000010030<29>0z0<17>0S0 } 005-Space-Mice { ; (c) Steve Karl 4.29.98 "Space Mice in Bondage" reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=recip/sin/exp passes=1 center-mag=0/0.449291/0.04167969 params=11/1/6/1e+020/1e+020/0.008999999999999999 maxiter=2 inside=99 potential=256/157/16959 invert=32/0/0 colors=000nn0<2>zz0<15>000<15>0z0<15>000<15>z0z<14>40400K<15>zzz<14>44N0\ 00<15>WWW<14>000<15>z00<15>000<15>0zz<15>000<15>00z<15>000<10>ff0AAL } frm:Gallet-6-08 { ; Sylvie Gallet, 1996 z = pixel , x = real(z) , y = imag(z) : x1 = x - p1*fn1(y + fn2(p2*x) / fn3(p3*y)) y1 = y - p1*fn1(x + fn2(p2*y) / fn3(p3*x)) x = x1 , y = y1 z = x + flip(y) |z| <= 1024 } - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 07:47:38 -0700 From: "Angela Wilczynski" Subject: (fractint) Need some help For some wierd reason, I can't seem to run Fractint properly any more. I've tried re-loading the program. The problem is that dos doesn't seem to see the control key so I can't use any of the commands that need the control key like control+ to rotate an image. Any ideas or patch files would be greatly appreciated. Please send files as attachment to wizzle@cci-internet.com This problem with dos happens whether I shell to dos from windows or if I boot directly into dos. Thanks for any and all help Angela - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 10:45:27 -0400 From: Jack Valero Subject: Re: (fractint) Re:Tierazon { flariums lil bro' } At 04:29 PM 04/05/98 EDT, Steve wrote: >In a message dated 98-05-04 16:12:54 EDT, you write: >I messed with both for about 6 hours...cute....nice bells and whistles ...but >they made it obvious that fractint is the mother of all generators. When I get a real winner out of Fractint, I have to agree. But then I work with Tierazon and get something that just ain't gonna happen with Fractint and I have to disagree. So what's my conclusion? - just be damned happy that the Stone Group / Ferguson brands of generosity give us so much to while away our times and imaginations. Regards - Jack visit our fractal gallery: http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/phractal.html - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 10:57:50 -0400 From: Barry Bluestein Subject: Re: (fractint) Need some help Angela Wilczynski wrote: > For some wierd reason, I can't seem to run Fractint properly any more. I've > tried re-loading the program. The problem is that dos doesn't seem to see the > control key so I can't use any of the commands that need the control key like > control+ to rotate an image. > > Any ideas or patch files would be greatly appreciated. Please send files as > attachment to > > wizzle@cci-internet.com > > This problem with dos happens whether I shell to dos from windows or if I boot > directly into dos. > > Thanks for any and all help > > Angela > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Angela, some questions are nescessary; 1- What Operating sytem are you using (Windows 95?)? 2- How are you booting into DOS? (There are at least 3 ways from Win95) 3- Does the Control key still work in all other DOS programs? All other Windows programs? 4- What new software did you install lately? - -- Barry Bluestein - President The Lapis Group - Internet Consultants 11629 Deborah DR, Suite 1000 Potomac, MD 20854 301-299-0083 - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 09:06:35 -0700 (MST) From: Kerry Mitchell Subject: Re: (fractint) bailout project >A few days ago I started out trying to put >an elliptical bailout on some of the formulas like gravijul >and SpiderM. I actually have been a little disappointed >in the results- the original formulas had a lot of versatility >and all the results of this have the same pleasant but relentlessly >similar symmetry. Maybe someone can come up with >something interesting or better yet change the formula. [snippage] Not claiming to do either; just a question: >spider_ellipse{;bailout variation by kathy roth > ; by Jean-Pierre Louvet > ; shortcut by Bud > z=pixel, f=pixel, g =f+p2, a=real(p3), b=imag(p3): > f=f/p1+z, > z=fn1(z^g)+fn2(f), > real(z) * real(z)/ a + imag(z) * imag(z)/b < 1 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ How does order of operations handle this? I would have coded it more like (real(z)*real(z)/a + imag(z)*imag(z)/b) < 1 to make sure that the "elliptical" quantity is fully computed before being compared to 1. Does this still happen as written, or is the compare done on some incomplete combination of factors and terms? I have experimented with elliptical bailouts before, and found neat results when either combining (image processing) images of the same fractal with different bailouts, or making animations from one bailout condition (say, a=1, b=10) to another (a=10, b=1). It may not make much computation difference, but what I did was something along the lines of: zc = sqr(zc) + c, ; or your favorite iteration algorithm z = aa*real(zc) + bb*imag(zc) ; since multiplies are faster than divides ; aa is similar to 1/a above ; bb would be like (0, 1/b) |z| < 4 ; evaluates to ; sqr(aa*real(zc))+sqr(bb*imag(zc)) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kerry Mitchell lkmitch@primenet.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 12:19:04 -0400 From: Barry Bluestein Subject: Re: (fractint) Need some help BTW, Question #4 is probably the most important! ;) - -- Barry Bluestein - President The Lapis Group - Internet Consultants 11629 Deborah DR, Suite 1000 Potomac, MD 20854 301-299-0083 - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 11:51:37 -0600 (CST) From: 4wg7kolodzie@vms.csd.mu.edu Subject: Re: (fractint) Music to watch fractals by. On Tue, 5 May 1998, Jim Muth wrote: > > BTW, on my one-to-ten scale, Glass would rate a three, > Schoenberg a two, and Stravinsky a five. > Then what's a one? Justin K. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 10:10:27 -0700 From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) parser question (bailout project) At 09:06 AM 5/5/98 -0700, Kerry wrote: >(Kathy wrote:) >>A few days ago I started out trying to put >>an elliptical bailout... > >... > >Not claiming to do either; just a question: > >... > >> real(z) * real(z)/ a + imag(z) * imag(z)/b < 1 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >How does order of operations handle this? I would have coded it more like > >(real(z)*real(z)/a + imag(z)*imag(z)/b) < 1 > >to make sure that the "elliptical" quantity is fully computed before being >compared to 1. Does this still happen as written, or is the compare done >on some incomplete combination of factors and terms? By the book, it should be okay. Multiplication and division are precedence level 3, addition and subtraction are level 4. However, now *I* have a question. 19.6 documentation says negation is level 2; how can this be, if subtraction, which uses the same operator/symbol is level 4? (English majors, forgive me. I know it's bad style not to spell out small numbers, but I thought it was more readable.) BTW, if anyone hasn't tried the suggestion (Tim's, I believe) of extracting the documentation from the executable, I can not recommend it highly enough. It *is* big (533K), but searching for information (most editors have pattern search capabilities) is *so* much easier! I wish I had done it two years ago (my first exposure to Fractint). Bud - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 10:25:56 -0700 From: Mark Christenson Subject: Re: (fractint) parser question (bailout project) At 10:10 AM 5/5/98 -0700, I wrote: >At 09:06 AM 5/5/98 -0700, Kerry wrote: >... >>> real(z) * real(z)/ a + imag(z) * imag(z)/b < 1 >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >>How does order of operations handle this? I would have coded it more like >> >>(real(z)*real(z)/a + imag(z)*imag(z)/b) < 1 >> >>to make sure that the "elliptical" quantity is fully computed before being >>compared to 1. Does this still happen as written, or is the compare done >>on some incomplete combination of factors and terms? > >By the book, it should be okay. Multiplication and division >are precedence level 3, addition and subtraction are level 4. Sorry Kerry, I misread your parens, and thus didn't answer the question you actually asked. Comparisons are level 6, so Kathy's version is okay as written. Bud - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 15:13:06 EDT From: SKarl52884 Subject: (fractint) EX2 Gallet-6-8 Greetings, Here are a few more views of a wonderful formula. I hope you enjoy them. Steve ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 001-Inharmonic { ; (c)SK 5/5/98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=sqr/cabs/sqr passes=1 center-mag=-1.24345e-014/0.0214144/0.2386836 params=2/1/38/52/0.001599999999999999/1.331111111111111 maxiter=99999999 inside=99 potential=256/149/26969 invert=0.07/0/0 colors=000nn0<2>zz0<15>000<15>0z0<15>000<15>z0z<14>40400K<15>zzz<14>44N0\ 00<15>WWW<14>000<15>z00<15>000<15>0zz<15>000<15>00z<15>000<10>ff0AAL } 002-ParrotTotem { ; (c)SK 5/5/98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=sqr/cabs/sqr passes=1 center-mag=-1.28786e-014/0.0214144/1.399411 params=2/1/38/52/0.001599999999999999/1.331111111111111 maxiter=99999999 inside=99 potential=256/149/26969 invert=0.0007/0/0 colors=000nn0<2>zz0<15>000<15>0z0<15>000<15>z0z<14>40400K<15>zzz<14>44N0\ 00<15>WWW<14>000<15>z00<15>000<15>0zz<15>000<15>00z<15>000<10>ff0AAL } 003-EagleTotem { ; (c)SK 5/5/98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=sqr/sqr/cotanh passes=1 center-mag=0/0/0.04424456/1.4 params=3/1/32/4/15/2 maxiter=99999999 inside=99 potential=256/149/26969 invert=4/0/0 colors=000nn0<2>zz0<15>000<15>0z0<15>000<15>z0z<14>40400K<15>zzz<14>44N0\ 00<15>WWW<14>000<15>z00<15>000<15>0zz<15>000<15>00z<15>000<10>ff0AAL } 004-RavenTotem { ; (c)SK 5/5/98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=sqr/sqr/cotanh passes=1 center-mag=-7.10543e-015/7.10543e-015/0.05469613 params=4/2/32/1.58/15/0.25 maxiter=99999999 inside=99 potential=256/149/26969 invert=3/0/0 colors=000nn0<2>zz0<15>000<15>0z0<15>000<15>z0z<14>40400K<15>zzz<14>44N0\ 00<15>WWW<14>000<15>z00<15>000<15>0zz<15>000<15>00z<15>000<10>ff0AAL } 039-Clover-Icon { ; (c) Steve Karl 4/30/98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=list1.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=sqr/sqr/cotanh passes=1 center-mag=0/-0.111051/0.04167969 params=1.5/1.5/146/3/4/6 maxiter=99999999 inside=99 potential=256/149/26969 invert=-8/0/0 colors=000nn0<2>zz0<15>000<15>0z0<15>000<15>z0z<14>40400K<15>zzz<14>44N0\ 00<15>WWW<14>000<15>z00<15>000<15>0zz<15>000<15>00z<15>000<10>ff0AAL } 005-DelicateIcon { ; (c)SK 5/5/98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=sqr/sqr/cotanh passes=1 center-mag=0/0/0.04167969 params=4/3/666/1.58/0.1/12 maxiter=99999999 inside=99 potential=256/149/26969 invert=7.9975/0/0 colors=000nn0<2>zz0<15>000<15>0z0<15>000<15>z0z<14>40400K<15>zzz<14>44N0\ 00<15>WWW<4>LLL0JJHHH<7>000<15>z00<15>000<15>0zz<15>000<15>00z<15>000<10\ >ff0AAL } 006-DelicateFan { ; (c)SK 5/5/98 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=*.frm formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=sqr/exp/sqr passes=1 center-mag=-1.24345e-014/0.0214144/0.2386836 params=4/4/0.3/6/0.6/1.1111111111111e+019 maxiter=99999999 inside=99 potential=256/149/26969 invert=0.1/0/0 colors=000nn0<2>zz0<15>000<15>0z0<15>000<15>z0z<14>40400K<15>zzz<14>44N0\ 00<15>WWW<14>000<15>z00<15>000<15>0zz<15>000<15>00z<15>000<10>ff0AAL } frm:Gallet-6-08 { ; Sylvie Gallet, 1996 z = pixel , x = real(z) , y = imag(z) : x1 = x - p1*fn1(y + fn2(p2*x) / fn3(p3*y)) y1 = y - p1*fn1(x + fn2(p2*y) / fn3(p3*x)) x = x1 , y = y1 z = x + flip(y) |z| <= 1024 } - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 16:55:08 -0400 From: Peter Jakubowicz Subject: (fractint) music for fractals If you want music that has has fractal properties, as opposed to music that's just kind of cool to watch fractals by, Schoenberg is your man. At least I can't think of any other music that is composed by a largely deterministic process (and is not improvised) yet results in such a combination of breathtaking chaos _and_ lyrical passages. And is self-similar almost by definition. Not sure why Id didn't use Pierrot Lunaire for Quake instead of bloody Nine Inch Nails. Fractals seen at http://home.earthlink.net/~pfjakub http://members.xoom.com/pfjakub - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 16:47:17 -0500 From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) Need some help Angela Wilczynski wrote: > > For some wierd reason, I can't seem to run Fractint properly any more. I've > tried re-loading the program. The problem is that dos doesn't seem to see the > control key so I can't use any of the commands that need the control key like > control+ to rotate an image. > Sometimes it helps to turn over the keyboard and shake out all the loose dust, dirt and cookie crumbs. Bob "No Dirty Fractals" Margolis Now for a word from our sponsor: - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 16:50:37 -0500 From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) Music to watch fractals by. 4wg7kolodzie@vms.csd.mu.edu wrote: > > On Tue, 5 May 1998, Jim Muth wrote: > > > > > BTW, on my one-to-ten scale, Glass would rate a three, > > Schoenberg a two, and Stravinsky a five. > > > Then what's a one? > Any of the stuff I wrote in my college music composition courses. B. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 18:05:37 -0400 From: Gedeon Peteri Subject: Re: (fractint) music for fractals Peter Jakubowicz wrote: > If you want music that has has fractal properties, as opposed to music > that's just kind of cool to watch fractals by, Schoenberg is your man. At > least I can't think of any other music that is composed by a largely > deterministic process (and is not improvised) yet results in such a > combination of breathtaking chaos _and_ lyrical passages. And is > self-similar almost by definition. Yes, quite right. Much the same is true of Alban Berg (probably more "accessible" than Schoenberg), and, without lyrical passages but with lots of breathtaking chaos, of Anton von Webern too. I also like the suggestion of Glass, who has been mentioned by others. Add John Adams, another minimalist; especially Harmonium, with its rich chorus. Color cycle a spiral while listening to it. (Incidentally, it was La Sacre du printemps by Stravinsky which elicited riotous behavior by the audience, not Firebird.) Gedeon - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 17:20:39 -0500 From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) music for fractals Gedeon Peteri wrote: > Add John Adams, another minimalist; > especially Harmonium, with its rich chorus. Color cycle a spiral while > listening to it. (Incidentally, it was La Sacre du printemps by Stravinsky > which elicited riotous behavior by the audience, not Firebird.) > How about Bartok's Music for Stringed Instruments, Percussion and Celesta? Holst's The Planets? Ligeti? Lutoslawski? Penderecki? Britten? B. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 17:21:25 -0500 From: Bob Margolis Subject: Re: (fractint) music for fractals Oh, yes...And Edgard Varese. B. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 17:32:04 -0500 From: Bob Margolis Subject: (fractint) Re: Tierazon I enjoy using about a half-dozen different Fractal programs. All have some interesting features the others don't. I mostly use Fractint however because of the ease in writing formulas for it and in working with color maps, coming up with color schemes that would be hard to do with the others. But since this is a list server devoted to the ins and outs of Fractint I, myself, don't plan to get into a discussion here on the merits of the other programs. That could be done on the fractal art list server. B. Now for a word from our sponsor: - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 19:38:51 -0400 From: davides Subject: (fractint) ufo Last night..hmmmm, don't really feel like spinning up a tale, so, the following par resembles something one might have read about: UFO { ; frm: Petals_Julia by Paul Carlson ; Colormap: dsgoldsilver reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=Petals_Julia passes=t center-mag=0/0/0.6666667 params=0.01/0/0.5/0/63/256 float=y maxiter=2048 inside=zmag outside=summ colors=000<10>000000111222<36>zzw<42>111A20<10>yhW<22>A20111<32>zzw<22>1\ 11MC7<6>yhW<14>A20000<44>000 cyclerange=1/250 } davides@pipeline.com Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 20:05:23 -0600 From: "Tim Wegner" Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: Tierazon It's fine with me if people want to discuss other programs. I didn't know anything about Tierazon, and was glad to read about it. I'm glad there are other freeware programs out there distributed with source! Tim - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 20:10:26 -0500 (CDT) From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson) Subject: (fractint) My favorite alien, and other pars comment { This formula uses my 3D Stalks rendering on an equation from the book, _Spiral Symmetry_, p. 129, edited by I. Hargittai and C. Pickover. The images produced by the pars "alien" and "julia01" I originally did about three years ago - the others are new (and kind of different - I'm not too sure what I think of them - comments (pro and con) are welcome). Paul Carlson } frm:Spir_Stalks_Jul {; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 ; ; p1 = Julia set coordinates ; real(p2) = a factor controlling the size of the stalks ; imag(p2) = iterations to skip ; real(p3) = number of color ranges ; imag(p3) = number of colors in a range ; w = pixel c = p1 z = bailout = iter = range_num = 0 stalk_width = real(p2) skip_iters = imag(p2) num_ranges = real(p3) colors_in_range = imag(p3) index_factor = (colors_in_range - 1) / stalk_width : w = w * w - c, wr = real(w), awr = abs(wr) w = w - wr + awr ; IF (abs(real(w)) <= abs(imag(w))) dist = abs(real(w)) ELSE dist = abs(imag(w)) ENDIF IF (dist < stalk_width && iter > skip_iters) z = index_factor * dist + range_num * colors_in_range + 1 bailout = 1 ENDIF range_num = range_num + 1 IF (range_num == num_ranges) range_num = 0 ENDIF iter = iter + 1 z = z - iter bailout == 0 && |w| < 4 } alien { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spirsymm.frm formulaname=Spir_Stalks_Jul passes=1 corners=-0.62194238/-0.10395143/0.401804689/0.327805981/-0.39\ 994626/0.10580986 params=0/0.3/0.01/0/2/100 float=y maxiter=100 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zVz<123>G0GVzz<123>0GG000000L00000000 } julia01 { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spirsymm.frm formulaname=spir_stalks_jul passes=1 corners=-1.784/1.784/-1.338/1.338 params=-0.184375/0.45/0.06/1/2/125 float=y maxiter=251 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>aG0n_z<123>I0K000<3>000 } spiral_weave { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spirsymm.frm formulaname=spir_stalks_jul passes=1 corners=-0.429044904/-0.325674698/0.384097196/0.345180895/-0.\ 373151805/0.309573065 params=-0.36812529/0.08941615999999999/0.06/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000GGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40z\ z0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CC000<13>000 } spiralvalley { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spirsymm.frm formulaname=spir_stalks_jul passes=1 corners=-0.592215277/-0.388767392/0.816234109/0.739641063/-0.\ 482209376/0.669559576 params=-0.36665/0.11573/0.06/0/8/30 float=y maxiter=251 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000GGz<28>00OfOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40z\ z0<28>aG00zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CC000<13>000 cyclerange=1/240 } v_abstract { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spirsymm.frm formulaname=spir_stalks_jul passes=1 corners=-0.8624517/1.381342/0.1983121/1.881157 params=-1/1/0.3/0/2/125 float=y maxiter=251 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000zz0<123>aG0n_z<123>I0K000<3>000 } whatever { ; Copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=spirsymm.frm formulaname=spir_stalks_jul passes=1 corners=-0.66651717/0.26219005/0.78551078/0.38880675/-0.14176\ 464/0.08584074 params=-0.4/0.33/0.06/20/8/30 float=y maxiter=251 inside=253 outside=summ colors=000fOz<28>I0Kz0f<28>O08z88<28>O00zW0<28>c40zz0<28>aG00\ zR<28>0C40zz<28>0CCGGz<28>00O000<13>000 } - -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for using Fractint, The Fractals and Fractint Discussion List Post Message: fractint@lists.xmission.com Get Commands: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "help" Administrator: twegner@phoenix.net Unsubscribe: majordomo@lists.xmission.com "unsubscribe fractint" ------------------------------ End of fractint-digest V1 #191 ******************************