From: "Matt McCarthy" Subject: (hats) Luxt Date: 01 Jul 2000 15:55:29 -0500 I found a Safety Dance cover by Luxt on Napster and am curious who they are. It is a harder version,almost punkish, says it is off of Newer Wave 1998. Anyone "know their name?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Senz Subject: (hats) MWH cover (The Great Ones Remember) Date: 01 Jul 2000 17:01:45 -0600 Ok, "The Great Ones Remember" is now on Richard's site. I might be making further changes though. The thing is, is that I've picked up a cold or flu or something and can't sing another note. (My concentration sucks too.) Need break! But, to anyone who considers themselves great at mixing (I'm not) please e-mail me with any comments, I'd appreciate it. Later hatters... Senz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alex Subject: Re: (hats) Luxt Date: 02 Jul 2000 16:13:08 -0400 (EDT) > I found a Safety Dance cover by Luxt on Napster and am curious who they are. > > It is a harder version,almost punkish, says it is off of Newer Wave > 1998. I submitted mention of that to Lazlo's Discography a while back. Luxt is a man and woman, generally industrialish music, and they have 3-4 albums to their name. They do have a webpage (http://www.luxt.com? Something like that... Google would probably find it nicely). It is actually from 'Newer Wave 2' on 21st Circuitry Records. Also note that another industrial band, Pain Station, covered Safety Dance on the Reconstriction release 'Nod's Tacklebox O' Fun'. Ae. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Reed Subject: (hats) Tribute Update 7/4 and call for graphic artists Date: 04 Jul 2000 04:58:14 -0700 Well friends, Here is the confirmed tracklisting: Where do the boys go?------------- performed by Flat Stanley Life After Diamond Head -----------performed by Lord Hasenpfeffer I Got The Message ----------------performed by Mike Azevedo Eurotheme --------------------------performed by the Manatees The Safety Dance ------------------performed by Tony Reed Security ----------------------------performed by Glacid The Great Ones Remember---------performed by Steven-Enz I'm In Love-------------------------performed by Johan Hindstrom Eurotheme -------------------------performed by The Manatees Folk Of The Eighties ---------------performed by Stephen Sundstrom and perhaps... Unsatisfaction----------------------performed by Johan Hindstrom All of the other songs that were previously reserved are now available. Anyone who wishes to contribute a song not listed above let me know, but be quick about it! I am now looking for a graphic artist to design a cover and inlay structure. Anyone interested can email me personally. Currently I am communicating with the contributors to determine possible realistic, yet efficient deadlines so that I can accurately project a possible date of release. My personal goal is to have this thing out by September, but that may or may not happen. That's all for now! Tony -- /\ II II <==QABALA==> II II II II II ______/\/\______ http://tonyreed.homepage.com Take a journey to an e-mailess list http://sandiegofreak.com Get yourself a copy of my first CD at: http://mp3.com/tonyreed _______________________________________________ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniele Rossi Subject: Re: (hats) Tribute Update 7/4 and call for graphic artists Date: 04 Jul 2000 08:47:38 -0400 (EDT) > Where do the boys go?------------- performed by Flat Stanley Any relation to Eric? ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen D. Sundstrom" Subject: (hats) Big Mountain 2000 project Date: 08 Jul 2000 13:41:30 -0600 Stefan, Would you mind updating us on the status of the Big Mountain 2000 project you are working on? Thanks! Steve Sundstrom # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M.J.Innes@open.ac.uk Subject: (hats) New Man Date: 09 Jul 2000 11:20:07 +0100 Hello everybody, A quick note to introduce myself as a new member. I notice from browsing thru the archives that there are a couple of other MWH fans in the UK, so especial greetings to you folks. My "How I Learned To Love MWH" story would be, listening to the radio in around 1981 and hearing the most amazing-sounding record - and in the middle of the track, the DJ corrected it to play it at the right speed! I swear it's true! Turned out to be Safety Dance and the rest, of course, is mystery. Also from checking out the archives, some months ago, somebody asked if there ever had been an MWH hat. Well, the answer to that question is definitely yes. As a massive fan I used to pester the poor people at the Statik Records office in London, who must have got totally sick of it... but anyway, they used to send me bits and pieces of stuff to calm me down from time to time. One bit of merchandise was a sky blue sun-hat, with the logo in darker blue at the front. To be honest it was rather unpleasant (!), but this is 100% true... At around the same time I also recall the FOTE album being released with stickers on the front suggesting that I Know Their Name and Unsatisfaction were likely to be singles... shame about IKTN in particular, very very under-rated... Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Henderson Subject: (hats) MWH Covers Date: 09 Jul 2000 21:50:12 -0400 I have recently posted my version of I Got the Message on the cover project page. Sorry if I have stepped on any feet by doing this cover. I did not see the initial list of artists doing particular songs. Hope everyone enjoys what I have submitted. Please feel free to email me with your comments. I must admit I am quite impressed with what people have created so far. Keep up the good work!!! Bob Henderson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Jackson" Subject: (hats) Covers Date: 13 Jul 2000 15:46:11 -0400 I just wanted to let you know that I've listened to all the covers that have been posted on the web site, and I'm impressed! I wish I had the musical talent that I've been hearing from you guys! I play the saxophone, but that doesn't make a good cover without something to back it. And, no, I don't think I could play the saxophone part that you hear in "Editions of You." Keep up the good work, and I look forward to the next covers to be posted! Steve -- mailto:steve.jackson@onebox.com voicemail/fax:(678) 222-2240 x1548 __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Holdman" Subject: RE: (hats) MWH Covers Date: 14 Jul 2000 12:52:13 -0600 I really like what you have done! Good work. -Richard Holdman -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-hats@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Bob Henderson Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 7:50 PM I have recently posted my version of I Got the Message on the cover project page. Sorry if I have stepped on any feet by doing this cover. I did not see the initial list of artists doing particular songs. Hope everyone enjoys what I have submitted. Please feel free to email me with your comments. I must admit I am quite impressed with what people have created so far. Keep up the good work!!! Bob Henderson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Divisio@aol.com Subject: (hats) the beginnings Date: 15 Jul 2000 11:14:54 EDT You know what I love? I'm gonna tell you. I love listening to some of the tracks live from Alberta to hear the beginnings the Hats have to some of their songs....the beginning to I Like, Freeways, and Editions of You are just so mystical and fantastic especially for keyboards and for early to mid 80's.... And you know what else? Well, I think the reason I like the Hats so much is because they are not a "chick" band...they never really played the Depeche mode or Duran Duran cheese songs that talk about scoring girls and what to do with such a plethera of ass. I still can't figure out what age the Hats would appeal to....Where folk bands I can garner up an accurate demographic....and teen bands, and other 80s bands as well.....but i really can't with the Hats...... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Divisio@aol.com Subject: (hats) and.... Date: 15 Jul 2000 11:17:17 EDT And why wasn't I Got the Message popular in the states? Everybody who's in listening range of the song when I'm playing it always comments on what a good song it is. Was it just passed by? I think if some of these songs were recognized, we'd be hearing many of them at 80's clubs and bars....maybe that's good that they weren't but does anybody agree with me? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniele Rossi" Subject: Re: (hats) the beginnings Date: 15 Jul 2000 12:06:37 -0400 > Well, I think the reason I like the Hats so much is because they are not a > "chick" band...they never really played the Depeche mode or Duran Duran > cheese songs that talk about scoring girls and what to do with such a > plethera of ass. I guess Depeche Mode did the chicky songs in the early years ("See You"....jeepers! Did anyone catch this song on Top of the Pops in the "Behind The Scenes" documentary?) but to this day I still wonder HOW in the world Duran Duran made it with Simon Le Bon as the singer. What a cracky voice! Although, I was such a fan back then....but that voice bothered me a lot. > I still can't figure out what age the Hats would appeal to....Where folk > bands I can garner up an accurate demographic....and teen bands, and other > 80s bands as well.....but i really can't with the Hats...... I guess becuase they weren't as popular as bands like Depeche Mode, Duran Duran, and Culture Club where they had a specific fanbase. But why? I don't know. Maybe not enough promotion and interviews? The teen magazines had Duran Duran, Wham!, and Cultre Club all over the place. Thus, a teen band. I never saw Men Without Hats mentioned anywhere even though everyone knew of "The Safety Dance". Does anyone know the chart listings of MWH in Canada? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lord Hasenpfeffer Subject: Re: (hats) the beginnings Date: 15 Jul 2000 13:01:23 -0400 (EDT) > Well, I think the reason I like the Hats so much is because they are not a > "chick" band...they never really played the Depeche mode or Duran Duran > cheese songs that talk about scoring girls and what to do with such a > plethera of ass. Ooh you're such a pretty boy / Ooh you're such a pretty boy / Ooh you're such a pretty boy / So pretty! P - R - E - double-T - Y! Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Hindstrom INF Subject: (hats) I'm in Love Date: 21 Jul 2000 23:35:15 +0300 (EET DST) Hiya, listers... A possible version (if you accept it, that is) of my main contribution "I'm in Love", performed by my project Daffus X, is now available at the coversite: http://www.holdman.com/mwhcovers/ Go get it and judge, please! I thought the original ending of the song was like they knew all along that they would fade it out, but decided they wouldn't at the last minute. SO... I decided to spiff it up a bit or three. :) - Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gegax Subject: (hats) Re: the beginnings Date: 21 Jul 2000 17:42:38 -0500 As a dedicated fan of Duran Duran for most of the 80's, I'd like to know which songs you are referring to that "talk about scoring girls and what to do with such a plethera [sic] of ass?" The reason I started to like Duran Duran, and subsequently Pet Shop Boys, was their sound and songwriting ability. Duran Duran's Simon Le Bon wrote imaginative lyrics in which, quite frankly, I didn't know what the hell he was talking about sometime: "The Union of the Snake is on the climb. It's going to race, it's going to break, it's going to move up to the border line." Huh? Okay. Anyway, that's part of the reason I like them. Similarly, the sound and songwriting are why I was drawn to Men WIthout Hats: "We walked around in circles singing: whoa-ho! I said, we could walk around for practically forever singing: whoa-ho!" Umm... okay. The lyrics have a light, playful quality. You can read in to it what you want, or not. As far as nailing down who Men Without Hats appeals to, I'm male, caucasion, 29. PS: What's the password to get in to Holdman's cover project site again? Divisio@aol.com writes: > Well, I think the reason I like the Hats so much is because they are not a > "chick" band...they never really played the Depeche mode or Duran Duran > cheese songs that talk about scoring girls and what to do with such a > plethera of ass. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Lentz Subject: Re: (hats) Re: the beginnings Date: 21 Jul 2000 17:47:37 -0500 Speaking of other 80s bands, is anyone else here into Devo? I've always kinda associated Devo with MWH. They've both got a lot of synth in their sound, they're both from the same time period, they're both mostly know for one song, etc. I've got the Warner Brothers Greatest Hits and Greatest Misses CDs by Devo, and I've been listening to them A LOT lately - good stuff! I'm thinking about looking for some other CDs - can anyone recommend anything? (I'm always up for CDR trading, too, FWIW.) Anyway, talk to you guys and girls later! --=20 Kevin Lentz (ICQ 10812890) Glacid http://www.glacid.net 3=BE-inch Action Figure Archives: http://www.toymania.com/334archives # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alan Pendleton" Subject: Re: (hats) Re: the beginnings Date: 21 Jul 2000 10:08:53 +0100 > >Huh? Okay. Anyway, that's part of the reason I like them. > >Similarly, the sound and songwriting are why I was drawn to Men WIthout Hats: > > "We walked around in circles singing: whoa-ho! I said, we could walk > around for practically forever singing: whoa-ho!" > >Umm... okay. The lyrics have a light, playful quality. You can read in to it >what you want, or not. > That line always reminds of the scene in Midnight Express when the prisoners, well, er, walk around in circles for practically forever muttering to themselves. Alan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lord Hasenpfeffer Subject: (hats) Re: the beginnings Date: 22 Jul 2000 13:12:49 -0400 (EDT) > That line always reminds of the scene in Midnight Express when the > prisoners, well, er, walk around in circles for practically forever > muttering to themselves. Wasn't their tempo somewhat slower though? :) (It's been awhile since I watched it, so...) Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: symmetry@optusnet.com.au Subject: Re: (hats) Re: the beginnings Date: 22 Jul 2000 09:59:50 +1000 Kevin Lentz wrote: > Speaking of other 80s bands, is anyone else here into Devo? AH! A fellow > Devotee! > > > > I could write volumes about these guys. > > I have every album, every 12" mix (remember them?) and virtually every si= > > > ngle. > > > > Fav albums: > > > > Freedom of Choice > > OH NO! It's DEVO > > Shout > > Duty Now for the Future > > Now it Can be Told (Live 1988) > > > > Check out the Mark Mothersbaugh solo albums too: > > > > Muzik for Insomniacs (Vol. 1 & 2) [Get these from the Mutato web site] > > Joyeux Mutato (Get this from the Rhino web site) > > > > Did you that Mark is the Rug Rats music man? > > > > I got them to sign my Energy Dome at the Australian Livid Festival a few > > years > > a go. No, it's not for sale... > > > > If you want anymore info, just yell. > > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Hindstrom INF Subject: Re: (hats) Re: the beginnings Date: 22 Jul 2000 23:15:39 +0300 (EET DST) On Fri, 21 Jul 2000, Alan Pendleton wrote: > That line always reminds of the scene in Midnight Express when the > prisoners, well, er, walk around in circles for practically forever > muttering to themselves. > > Alan > SCARY, MAN! Eeewwww! :) - Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M.J.Innes@open.ac.uk Subject: (hats) Devo Date: 23 Jul 2000 12:34:40 +0100 Yup, I can certainly see the MWH / Spudboys connection. It *is* the mixture of electronics and guitars... the general critical view of Devo is that they started great and then went into terminal decline. I think that's a little harsh, but certainly the later albums are, uh, less successful. If you really like the lovely warm Rhythm Of Youth synth sounds (not that *anything* actually sounds like ROY :-)), I can strongly recommend New Traditionalists (check out the Beautiful World video if you get the chance - fabulous) and Oh No! It's Devo! I've never really seen a good word written about either of those albums, but they're packed with three minute electronic classics. (Anybody agree??!!) We're talking around 1982 / 83 here. While we're on the subject of "does anyone else around here like...?", how about New Musik? Similar era, and again they made records that just don't sound like anybody else. To return to the subject of MWH, perhaps this has already been discussed before, but does anybody know anything about the recording / production / equipment of the records, especially ROY? From what I can pick up thru the archives, Marc Durand is kind of held as being the bad guy (what's *that* all about?), but ROY is tremendously well-produced. Unlike, I gotta say, most of the other albums (PGTW aside). 21st Century, f'rinstance, has got some really good songs but the production is shocking. What does anyone else think? Or have I just entered the list while at the same time shooting myself dramatically in the foot? Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M.J.Innes@open.ac.uk Subject: (hats) Devo Date: 23 Jul 2000 12:34:40 +0100 Yup, I can certainly see the MWH / Spudboys connection. It *is* the mixture of electronics and guitars... the general critical view of Devo is that they started great and then went into terminal decline. I think that's a little harsh, but certainly the later albums are, uh, less successful. If you really like the lovely warm Rhythm Of Youth synth sounds (not that *anything* actually sounds like ROY :-)), I can strongly recommend New Traditionalists (check out the Beautiful World video if you get the chance - fabulous) and Oh No! It's Devo! I've never really seen a good word written about either of those albums, but they're packed with three minute electronic classics. (Anybody agree??!!) We're talking around 1982 / 83 here. While we're on the subject of "does anyone else around here like...?", how about New Musik? Similar era, and again they made records that just don't sound like anybody else. To return to the subject of MWH, perhaps this has already been discussed before, but does anybody know anything about the recording / production / equipment of the records, especially ROY? From what I can pick up thru the archives, Marc Durand is kind of held as being the bad guy (what's *that* all about?), but ROY is tremendously well-produced. Unlike, I gotta say, most of the other albums (PGTW aside). 21st Century, f'rinstance, has got some really good songs but the production is shocking. What does anyone else think? Or have I just entered the list while at the same time shooting myself dramatically in the foot? Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lord Hasenpfeffer Subject: (hats) MWH / Devo / Etc. Date: 23 Jul 2000 16:05:14 -0400 (EDT) I always liked Tears For Fears because they were neither primarily electronic nor guitar-driven as well. In fact, the MWH and TFF mailing lists are the only two music-related groups to which I still subscribe after having joined so many when I first became 'net-active in 1996. "New Traditionalists" was always my favourite Devo album in the 1980s. I never had it until 1986 but once I did I played it in my car *all the time* along with Gary Numan + Tubeway Army, "Replicas" and his "Telekon" album. Toni Basil recorded "You Gotta Problem" with Devo back in '82 which is a revved-up remake of "Pity You" from "New Traditionalists". I never heard it until I met a girl at work in 1991 with tapes of KROQ in LA recorded as far back as '82. I have to admit, though, her version is far superior to the Devo original. Maybe it's the production of "21st Century" that has always made me feel that it was a "lesser" MWH album. That's a good point you make regarding it. While the production of PGTW is indeed top notch, 2nd to none! Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M.J.Innes@open.ac.uk Subject: (hats) Production Date: 24 Jul 2000 16:00:09 +0100 > I think it's interesting how Stefan now seems to be trying to take the > credit for the production of most of the MWH albums - even though around > the time of PGTW, Zeus B Held was one of the top dogs in the commercial > production world. Naturally I have no idea what actually went on in the > studio, but it seems to me to be pretty darn likely that Held might have > had a better idea of what he was doing... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lord Hasenpfeffer Subject: (hats) Zeus B Held! Date: 24 Jul 2000 11:58:18 -0400 (EDT) > it seems to me to be pretty darn likely that Held might have > had a better idea of what he was doing... Yup. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike Subject: Re: (hats) MWH / Devo / Etc. Date: 24 Jul 2000 22:09:31 +0000 >along with Gary Numan + Tubeway Army, "Replicas" and his "Telekon" album. well, the best Numan album production-wise (imo) is Dance - the quality of mixing on this one is amazing... it wasnt available on CD for quite a while so as i only had a vinyl copy it wasnt played in my household as much as the others, but as soon as i bought the 'clean' CD version all my old favourites came thru. in recent years Numan has been producing his own stuff, and i must admit that Exile (and the remixed version) is his best work for over a decade. on another front, the most startling discovery for me in the audio world was hearing Alison Moyet's first album after she left Yazoo - it was the first vinyl album i'd heard that was digital thru to the cutting process - with the 'DDA' logo on the cover. the clarity blew me away... anyways, back to my own 'DDD' epics... Alaska Highway vs the world!!! }:-) http://www.globald.demon.co.uk http://www.citrusgrove.com http://www.alaskahighway.co.uk http://www.mishikawa.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lord Hasenpfeffer Subject: Re: (hats) MWH / Devo / Etc. Date: 24 Jul 2000 17:39:09 -0400 (EDT) > the best Numan album production-wise (imo) is Dance > it wasnt available on CD for quite a while so as i only had a > vinyl copy it wasnt played in my household as much as the others, but > as soon as i bought the 'clean' CD version all my old favourites > came thru. Wow! I've often told the *exact same story*!!! What a surprise that I'm not the only one in the world with this identical experience! "Cry, The Clock Said", "Slowcar To China", and "Crash" I LOVE to death! > i must admit that Exile (and the remixed version) is his > best work for over a decade. Wow! I've often said the *exact same thing*!!! What a surprise that I'm not the only one in the world with this identical opinion! Until you posted this, I was the only one I knew who'd even heard "Exile"! > - with the 'DDA' logo on the cover. the clarity blew me away... I don't know if it was DDA but there was an LP a friend of mine had back in 1988 which was copyright 1984 that had stunning clarity such as that which blew me away as well... Torch Song featuring William Orbit, "Exhibit A". I think that's the right title anyway. There were two Torch Song LPs he had and that's the only one the title of which I can remember right now. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kerry Gordon" Subject: (hats) MWH's Is Featured Artist Date: 27 Jul 2000 16:49:01 -0400 Today at newworldcds.com Kerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gegax Subject: (hats) Re: MWH / Devo / Etc. Date: 27 Jul 2000 17:37:19 -0500 I enjoy Torch Song as well. I was originally turned on to William Orbit by a record store employee in the early 90's. The kid was like, "check this out," and plays "Water from a vine leaf" from Strange Cargo Vol. 3. That's all I needed. I bought the CD. Then I went on a tear, trying to find his other releases. I asked around at record stores and came across the CD "Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Bass" in the used bin. That's the album he did under the alias Bassomatic. Checking his discography, I discovered his other alias: Torch Song. I've been scooping up everything he's done since. Never thought I'd buy a Madonna album! Most recently I picked up William Orbit, "Pieces in a modern style." He has a terrific web-site. The URL is: http://www.williamorbit.com MYKEC@delphi.com wrote: > I don't know if it was DDA but there was an LP a friend of mine had back > in 1988 which was copyright 1984 that had stunning clarity such as that > which blew me away as well... Torch Song featuring William Orbit, "Exhibit A". > I think that's the right title anyway. There were two Torch Song LPs he had > and that's the only one the title of which I can remember right now. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gegax Subject: (hats) Re: MWH / Devo / Etc. Date: 27 Jul 2000 17:39:55 -0500 I enjoy Torch Song as well. I was originally turned on to William Orbit by a record store employee in the early 90's. The kid was like, "check this out," and plays "Water from a vine leaf" from Strange Cargo Vol. 3. That's all I needed. I bought the CD. Then I went on a tear, trying to find his other releases. I asked around at record stores and came across the CD "Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Bass" in the used bin. That's the album he did under the alias Bassomatic. Checking his discography, I discovered his other alias: Torch Song. I've been scooping up everything he's done since. Never thought I'd buy a Madonna album! Most recently I picked up William Orbit, "Pieces in a modern style." He has a terrific web-site. The URL is: http://www.williamorbit.com MYKEC@delphi.com wrote: > I don't know if it was DDA but there was an LP a friend of mine had back > in 1988 which was copyright 1984 that had stunning clarity such as that > which blew me away as well... Torch Song featuring William Orbit, "Exhibit A". > I think that's the right title anyway. There were two Torch Song LPs he had > and that's the only one the title of which I can remember right now. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt McCarthy" Subject: (hats) Covers, hats site, Tshirts. Date: 27 Jul 2000 18:56:51 -0500 The Men Without Hats site has some interesting info up, about the new release AND the bootleg materials. 'Short term' is a teasing phrasology isn't it? I am really looking forward to the new release. Go here http://menwithouthats.com/mwhnews.html , see, and let them know your opinion. I would also like to take this moment to applaud the covers that have been created thus far. I like them all and thank you -Steven Enz- -707 Heaven, B.H.- -Daffus X- -Flat Stanley- -Tony Reed- I am pleased to have them all. They are wonderful tributes to my favorite band. Also a thanks to Richard for the location I got them from. I look forward to the new Tshirts. BUT I am still EXTREMELY interested in getting the ones that someone may still have. [ nudge nudge nudge :^) ] You gotta walk before you crawl Remember everybody's selling something MMM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Divisio@aol.com Subject: (hats) hats off Date: 28 Jul 2000 01:33:47 EDT i feel there are a lot of bands out there who have many fans and can release cd after cd until they're dead and they'll still profit from each one. but how many long time defunct relatively unknown canadian 80's groups do you know who can release a CD 13 years after they last reached the Top 20? I find it satisfying to know people still like their music and have stuck by them. That must mean a lot to the Doroschuks i would think. collin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Divisio@aol.com Subject: (hats) article similarity Date: 28 Jul 2000 01:38:26 EDT I was reading the February 1999 issue of Discoveries, a Canadian based music magazine/newspaper which featured an article about men without hats... In it, they discuss former members of the band. When getting to Jeremie Arrobas, they mention he was in a band named "Isinglass" I read that as "I SING LAST" . Do you think either Ivan brought jeremie's band name into the song in rememberance of him or do you think arrobas used the name of the group from the Hats song? Chicken or Egg? Or neither...i may just be wiggin'--- collin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Divisio@aol.com Subject: (hats) guitarist dead? Date: 28 Jul 2000 01:39:47 EDT I remember when the internet first came out in '93 i went online to look for info about the Hats b/c i wanted to see a picture of Ivan to put a face to the voice. I remember reading something about the guitarist dying and that's why they broke up. Now, i know that's not why they broke up...but what guitarist was this?? Collin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Heidi Subject: Re: (hats) guitarist dead? Date: 28 Jul 2000 08:59:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Divisio@aol.com I remember when the internet first came out in '93 i went online to look for info about the Hats b/c i wanted to see a picture of Ivan to put a face to the voice. Internet in `93? I take it that's a typo since it was around Long before that. Or do you just mean the web? I remember reading something about the guitarist dying and that's why they broke up. Now, i know that's not why they broke up...but what guitarist was this?? I didn't pay much attention to the last few albums but did they have a guitarist other then Stephen? I know Allan McCarthy died a few years ago, long after he left the band. (For the newer folks on the list if you didn't know he had been on the list for awhile.) I remember the last album I heard had more guitar then the others but I had just figured it was still one guitarist. (I didn't keep the album long enough to check the musicians) Does anyone remember how big the live band was for the PGTW tour? I know there were a bunch of people on stage but Ivan and Stephen are the only ones I remember at this point. =}{= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lord Hasenpfeffer Subject: (hats) PGTW Tour Band Date: 28 Jul 2000 10:42:49 -0400 (EDT) > Does anyone remember how big the live band was for the PGTW tour? Yes. > I know there were a bunch of people on stage but Ivan and Stephen are the only ones I remember at this point. You'll have to pardon the fact that the thumbnails aren't coming in correctly right now as I've been rearranging my site's directory structures lately, however, the regular images are working just fine, so... http://www.ymphony.com/ymphony/artists/mwh_01_fs.html Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike Subject: Re: (hats) Covers, hats site, Tshirts. Date: 28 Jul 2000 19:23:19 +0000 >I am really looking forward to the new release. >Go here http://menwithouthats.com/mwhnews.html , see, and let them >know your opinion. yuk - releasing a commercial album in MP3 only shouldnt even be considered... what about people who play proper CDs? what about people who like to hear music as it was recorded and not compressed to death? what about people with 2 vaguely tuned ears who can hear the difference between MP3 and real 16-bit 44kHz stuff at about 1457ft?? I've given them my strong view on the subject... Mike @ home http://www.globald.demon.co.uk http://www.citrusgrove.com http://www.alaskahighway.co.uk http://www.mishikawa.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lord Hasenpfeffer Subject: (hats) yuk Date: 28 Jul 2000 15:46:41 -0400 (EDT) No kidding! I've got web access and MP3-playing capability but have not invested a dime in a decent sound card or speakers for my computer since it's more often used for software development than for music-listening pleasure. On the other hand, I do own an awesome surround sound home theater system equipped with DVD, CD and MiniDisc players. While releasing an MP3-only album via the net might be a pioneering and trendy thing to do, it would sound like crap as it plays in my apartment. Then again, if the fact that the music is to be released exclusively in MP3 format is something centrally related to the concept of the recording rather than being something related to the current state of technology in the world and the human condition at this time, I might soften my stance. That would be very Fluxus of Ivan & Co.. I like Fluxus. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Stroud 2 Subject: (hats) MP3s versus regular CD audio Date: 28 Jul 2000 13:08:13 -0700 I went to the website and weighed in with my opinion... I think they should release the boots in *both* formats, to give everyone a choice. Whereas I'd much rather have a regular CD, I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who'd love to have a ton of MP3s on one disc. But if releasing both formats isn't feasible, then I'd opt for regular CDs. I work in the software industry, but to this day I haven't downloaded a single MP3. I listen to music in my car and home a lot more than I do while sitting in front of a computer at work. Hell, I don't even play my CDs in my PC at the office... I've got a boombox propped on top of my monitor that I use for music! (You should see what the electrical field of the boombox does to the upper inch of my monitor display... woke up this mornin' in a purple haze, indeed!) So there you go. I would think that most people would want them in a regular CD audio format, but you never know. Don2 don2@pobox.com ---- Baypop 2000 is coming... http://www.baypop.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt McCarthy" Subject: (hats) MP3s Date: 28 Jul 2000 17:27:27 -0500 I believe the mp3 question was ONLY for the bootleg material. I read it as the new release will be a standard audio CD. Did I misinterpret part of what the M W/O H site states? MMM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Gitlin Subject: (hats) MP3 vs. CD Date: 29 Jul 2000 12:46:53 -0700 As much as I agree with the audio quality arguments of mp3 vs. CD, there is also the other main argument... Production. It costs to put out a bunch of CDs for people, even if you only create about 50 of them. Plus, you have to ship them out all around the world. It would probably be easier, and most cost effective, to the band if they were to just put up some mp3s on a private site for us. True, quality would diminish, but it also gives Stefan more time, energy, and funds to throw at designing and selling t-shirts and putting together the "Mountain 2000" CD. Perhaps if there were centralized points where people could produce these CDs all across the country they could more efficiently divy them out to us. It would be cheaper for us, the fan, and definately cheaper for the band themselves. Just my two cents. Aaron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Hindstrom INF Subject: Re: (hats) Covers, hats site, Tshirts. Date: 29 Jul 2000 23:46:52 +0300 (EET DST) On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, mike wrote: > yuk - releasing a commercial album in MP3 only shouldnt even be > considered... what about people who play proper CDs? what about people > who like to hear music as it was recorded and not compressed to death? > what about people with 2 vaguely tuned ears who can hear the difference > between MP3 and real 16-bit 44kHz stuff at about 1457ft?? > Right... I DARE you to do a blindfolded (Pepsi/Coke) test between CD and Mp3 at 128000 bps! This is JUST a comment on quality... I don't take any other stands right here and now! > I've given them my strong view on the subject... > That's your right! > Mike @ home > - Johan http://www.abo.fi/~jhindstr/dxdl/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: goreal Subject: (hats) CD vs. MP3 Date: 29 Jul 2000 21:32:22 -0700 (PDT) You know, if it means more songs see the light-of-day because they're released in mp3, isn't that a great thing?! Maybe they'll offer both, and the @#*%! perfection snobs can wait for the second go-round of CD releases.. while the rest of us crank it up the mp3s and enjoy them. J.Davis goreal@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike Subject: Re: (hats) Covers, hats site, Tshirts. Date: 30 Jul 2000 11:02:21 +0000 >I DARE you to do a blindfolded (Pepsi/Coke) test between >CD and Mp3 at 128000 bps! >This is JUST a comment on quality... >I don't take any other stands right here and now! > - Johan > >http://www.abo.fi/~jhindstr/dxdl/ OK, seems there's a slagging match starting!! as a musician who owns a _very_ expensive digital recording studio (ie more than a PC and a sound card!!), i can tell the difference between mp3 and cd NO PROBLEM!!! most people cant tell the difference i know, but quite a few of us can. if you play music on your PC at work or at home on less than dynamic speakers then even a nats fart would sound vagualy ok. play a standard computer's soundcard into a decent amp / speakers system and you'll hear that even the newer mp3 doesn't quite sound as full as the uncompressed stuff. the bass lacks definition and the top end rolls off (if you know how sampling & different rates effect the sound then you'll know what i'm talking about). i'm not dismissing mp3, its a good thing to have for streaming and use over the net. and yes, i can tell the difference between coke, diet coke, pepsi, diet pepsi, pepsi max, virgin cola and the other one... }:-S http://www.globald.demon.co.uk http://www.citrusgrove.com http://www.alaskahighway.co.uk http://www.mishikawa.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike Subject: Re: (hats) CD vs. MP3 Date: 30 Jul 2000 11:02:20 +0000 >Maybe they'll offer both, and the @#*%! perfection snobs can wait for >the second go-round of CD releases.. while the rest of us crank it up >the mp3s and enjoy them. > >J.Davis jeez mate - calm down!! if you think that wanting 'normal' CD quality means that i'm a snob then you're too far into the MP3 world... get a life and a pair of ears. they should offer a standard CD (ie 16-bit 44.1kHz disc) and then if enough people want them an MP3 version as well. you must remember that quite a few of us have the bootlegs anyway, so why would we want to buy 2 copies (and an inferior version as well!). i agree that MP3 means more music to the masses but as someone who knows the audio difference i'd rather have quality over quantity any day... but what do i know, i'm just a digital musician... }:-) http://www.globald.demon.co.uk http://www.citrusgrove.com http://www.alaskahighway.co.uk http://www.mishikawa.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lord Hasenpfeffer Subject: (hats) MP3s and CDs Date: 30 Jul 2000 13:07:31 -0400 (EDT) One thing that we always seem to forget is the fact that there are things called *MINIDISCS* available which are very inexpensive, as easy to record and duplicate as cassettes, and offer sound quality that's damn near equal to the uncompressed data on CDs. MP3s use a 1/11 compression ratio whereas MiniDiscs use only 1/5. I have a Nakamichi/Bose surround sound home theater system and use it for listening to MDs made from CDs all the time. I cannot tell any difference at all between the two formats. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lord Hasenpfeffer Subject: Re: (hats) Covers, hats site, Tshirts. Date: 30 Jul 2000 13:09:32 -0400 (EDT) > the bass lacks definition and the top end rolls off Both of which do *not* occur with MiniDiscs, I might add... Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lord Hasenpfeffer Subject: (hats) CDs, MDs, LPs, Paper Tapes (HAHA!), and MP3s... Date: 30 Jul 2000 17:24:34 -0400 (EDT) > sony) and we digitally transfered stuff from a CD player to disc for use > the last time we flew on the plane - i must admit that i can hear a > slight difference when its played on my hifi, though in everyday use its > pretty slight. Then again, you're Mr. Moose who I think uses an oscilloscope to calibrate your equipment there at Mooseland Studios, UK! :-) I cannot tell a difference at all between CDs and my MDs - but then I don't use my Sony portable recorder to record my CDs - even digitally. I use it for playback of the discs made with my home deck or to record live on location art things with open mic. There is no doubt in my mind that MiniDisc is the best format for this kind of material if CDs are out of the question or will be out of the question initially. No expensive equipment or even a computer is required to record / copy them. Blank MDs are very inexpensive - as are the players at long last as well. They also sound incredibly good - and far better than MP3!! I'm glad you put MD in 2nd place behind CDs. MiniDiscs have never been promoted as CD substitutes but rather as cassette tape *replacements* and for that purpose they do a DAMN good job! Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kerry Gordon" Subject: Re: (hats) MP3 vs. CD Date: 31 Jul 2000 11:11:54 -0400 With my current financial situation I'd prefer .mp3 files along with = graphics available for purchase on a website or via a disc that I can = download then decode (decompress to .wav) to cdr for playing on a cd = player. I'm sure that the quality will be fine. I've downloaded mp3's and = decoded to disc before and they sound great! It all depends on the quality of the original. Kerry Gordon >>> Aaron Gitlin Saturday, July 29, 2000 3:46:53 PM >>> As much as I agree with the audio quality arguments of mp3 vs. CD, there = is=20 also the other main argument... Production. It costs to put out a bunch of CDs for people, even if you only create=20 about 50 of them. Plus, you have to ship them out all around the=20 world. It would probably be easier, and most cost effective, to the = band=20 if they were to just put up some mp3s on a private site for us. True,=20 quality would diminish, but it also gives Stefan more time, energy, and=20 funds to throw at designing and selling t-shirts and putting together = the=20 "Mountain 2000" CD. Perhaps if there were centralized points where people could produce = these=20 CDs all across the country they could more efficiently divy them out to=20 us. It would be cheaper for us, the fan, and definately cheaper for = the=20 band themselves. Just my two cents. Aaron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Hindstrom INF Subject: Re: (hats) Covers, hats site, Tshirts. Date: 01 Aug 2000 00:13:33 +0300 (EET DST) On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, mike wrote: > you play music on your PC at work or at home on less than dynamic > speakers then even a nats fart would sound vagualy ok. play a standard > computer's soundcard into a decent amp / speakers system and you'll hear > that even the newer mp3 doesn't quite sound as full as the uncompressed > stuff. Sorry.. I didn't think I had to specify my soundgear here. I use great big floorshaking speakers and an amp to match. And STILL I claim .mp3's sound as good as the cd's. No wax build up.. don't go there. As for the nats farts... Could you post those somewhere? Share the joy, why don't you? :) - Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt McCarthy" Subject: (hats) Site 8 Tracks! Yahoo! Date: 01 Aug 2000 00:47:35 -0500 Stefan has updated the site and is indicating the masses (Us?) want CDs. You know where it is.... http://menwithouthats.com/mwhnews.html I want a CD that looks like the ROY pic disc..... MMM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info hats" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email hats@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats