From: Danny Rossi Subject: (hats) I'm off! Date: 03 Jan 1997 00:49:40 -0500 (EST) Hello, I have purchased a new account and have already subscribed to this list on that account. I was going to unsubscribe now but I noticed that all the messages are only coming here and not at my new account. Well, let's hope things change. My new account is at daniele@interlog.com so don't write to me here at this address anymore since I seldom come here. :) ........"Where can we find a duck and a hose at this hour?"............. ae752@freenet.toronto.on.ca Daniele Rossi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vince Silvaggio Subject: (hats) Hi out there! Date: 03 Jan 1997 15:54:11 -0500 Hi. My name is Vince and I'm from Montreal where Men Without Hats were formed. I've been a huge fan of theirs since the very early eighties and took quite a lot of ribbing about it in school for it. I seriously think I was the only one in my school who liked them. Anyway, that didn't stop me from wearing their t-shirts in school and flaunting "my" band. To this day, people still remember me for that reason (and in some cases, for only that reason!) In 1986, I was co-editor of my high school's yearbook, and I managed to put in a picture of me lying on a table with my "Freeways" tour t-shirt. I first noticed MWH in about 1982 when "Safety Dance" was becoming a huge hit. Back then, the video was playing practically daily. One day, my sister and I were watching it when she turned to me and let me know that the singer's name is Ivan Doroschuk. I asked her how she knew this, and she told me that she used to work with him at the Montreal General Hospital. Back then, he used to bring the emergency patients into the hospital from the incoming ambulances. She told me that he was soft-spoken and often used to let his fellow employees at the hospital know that he was starting a band and that he would make it big one day. This statement would often be met with laughter and a peppering of 'yeah, sure!'s. My sister was one of them who laughed. To this day, she feels stupid for that. Anyway, that prompted me to buy the "Rhythm of Youth" LP and I instantly became a serious fan. Then, last week, I purchased MusicHound's Rock: The Essential Music Guide, and found a WWW address dedicated to MWH which led to this E-mail. I'm still surprised there are big fans of theirs out there. It's somewhat reassuring knowing that others find the MWH sound unique and great. I've seen two of their concerts here in Montreal and have accumulated some articles from newspapers and magazines over the years. Among some of the MWH paraphernalia that I have, probably the most unique is a 'no hats' light switch, which surely wasn't commissioned for MWH, but is still a cool thing to have if one is a MWH fan. In any case, I look forward to reading what you guys have to say out there! Vince vsilvaggio@microimm.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jupiter-8@juno.com (Rod MacQuarrie) Subject: Re: (hats) Hi out there! Date: 04 Jan 1997 00:03:32 EST Wow! What an interesting story Vince...and welcome to the club...Actually, that's very encouraging because I have the same kind of dream as Ivan and hope it will someday come true. Unfortunately there isn't alot of support out there. But the key is to hold unto our dreams despite what others say. Just look what can be accomplished! Look at this mailing list for example...In just under a year we got the Collection released, the video compilation completed, and the three demo CD's done. Next year it will be the 2-fer of the first two albums on CD...There's "S..A..F..E..T..Y in numbers" Rod .uuoeeeuu. .d@$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$bL .@$$$$*"` `"#$$$$NL :@$$$" "R$$$k :@$$$N x$$$$$$$Nx #$$$k d$$#`$$$: d$$$$$$$$$$$$k #$$N @$$F R$$k$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$> '$$$: @$$ ?$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ R$$> 9$$~ 9$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$E 9$$ X$$f $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ '$$& $$E $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ `$$> J$$> :W$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$W: $$& 9$$ $$F"$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$"?$$ 9$$ $$E `$$$$> ^"#$$$$$*#"" '$$$$` '$$> $$E @$> 4$$W '$N '$$> 9$N ?$$> ?$$N '$$F d$$ 9$$ '$> '$$$: '$ 9$$ '$$k 9E 9$$k 9E :$$F 9$$ '$ ?$$i $> 9$$ '$$& '$$$> `$$$$$~ J$$F ?$$k 9& '$$$L :$$E 4$$W '$> :$*$$k J$$E "$$N> #N @# 4$$& W$$F '$$$i '$k X$ `$$Nd$$$" "$$$W. ?NWWWW@F '$$$$# "$$$$WL .d$$$$F '"$$$$$$Weuuuued@$$$$$F` `"*$$$$$$$$$$*#" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334@aol.com Subject: (hats) Pictures Date: 06 Jan 1997 22:51:27 -0500 Hello guys! Further to a conversation with Carl Oglio from Oglio record, I went to the photograph to get a copy of some pictures I have from the hats between 1982 and 1987. I'm talking about professional picture for the promo. I got two 4" x 6" (Ivan, Stephan, Collin and Allan Mcarthy ) from 1982 (Ivan for Moonbeam promo ) from 1987 I got two 8" x 10" (Ivan, Stephan, Collin and Allan, not the same as the 4 x 6) from 1983 (Ivan alone at Alert music office ) from 1984 All these pictures have very good quality. If you want a sample by E-mail, let me know. If you need a complete copy of the real picture from the neg., leave me a personnal E-mail, I will tell you how to get them. See ya! Francis Joannette # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas Norman" Subject: (hats) mike's e-mail Date: 08 Jan 1997 21:11:54 -0500 Hello. Can someone send me Mike's new e-mail address? I've deleted it. Mike? send me another e-mail w/ your mailing address. Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334@aol.com Subject: (hats) Pictures rebate Date: 08 Jan 1997 23:53:32 -0500 (EST) Hi there! Further to some messages, I will put this message public. I receive my copies of the four different pictures. They are great. My photograph gave my a rebate because of the quantity I did. There is two different package. I can prepare for you the 4 pictures in the 4" x 6" format for 9$ (canadian funds, probably 5$ in U.S. funds) taxes and shipping included (my cost is 8.81$) you can call it the small package I can prepare for you the 4 pictures (2 in the 4" x 6" format and 2 in the 8" x 10" format) taxes and shipping included for 25$ (canadian funds, probably something like 17$ in U.S. funds) my cost is 24.60. you can call it the big package. Those pictures have an autograph of the band. I hope you will like them! Old souvenir for me. If you are interested, please send a money order in Canadian fund to: FRANCIS JOANNETTE 60 SEVIGNE LAVAL QUEBEC H7H 1K1 CANADA If you need a sample in JPEG format, leave me a message If you are interested, dont forget to leave me a message to reserve it!!!!!! Ciao! Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tempe Video Subject: (hats) Moving sale Date: 11 Jan 1997 13:08:51 -0400 Hello again, fellow Hats fans! I'm moving to Los Angeles in March, and have posted a web site containing lists and lists of stuff myself and my moving friends are getting rid of! Bargain shoppers, this is your chance to collect and SAVE! * VHS videotapes * Magazines and books * Comic books * Movie screenplays * Audio cassettes and LPs (lots from the MWH era) * And much more! You've gotta see this list to believe it! All items are "best offer" only, so act now! The address to cash in on these bargains is: http://home.earthlink.net/~tempe Hope to see you there...and be sure to check back between now and March 1st as we'll be updating the list as more stuff becomes available! It's all gotta go (gotta go, gotta go)!! Regards, J.R. BOOKWALTER Visit Tempe Video & Press on the Web: http://members.aol.com/tempevideo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas Norman" Subject: (hats) Videos are finished Date: 12 Jan 1997 13:32:41 -0500 Greetings, All the 50 videos are done! I have returned all the original videos. Please tell me if i've missed anyone of the contributers. There are still plenty of people who want copies. Please post if you have 2 VCRs and can make copies of your (master) video. I think my VCR is going to get sick if I do another 50 off of my tape. It's fine and new now, but I think my heads will get mad if do that much more recording. By the way, shouldn't we all be discussing the stuff on the video? The list has been dead dead dead. I thought that this video and J.R.'s CDs would awaken this mailing list....... Here's something to discuss.... Did you all know that there is a "Freeways" video? Francis told me so. In fact, Francis has a video interview segment he showed me that has a 20 second clip of this video! It looks classic! It appears to be MWH performing live in a little Montreal club, w/ all kind of cool video effects. Does anyone have this complete video? It must be rare because even Francis doesn't have this.... and he has taped nearly everything in Montreal -> MWH related since 1987. Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJP1313@aol.com Subject: Re: (hats) Videos are finished Date: 12 Jan 1997 14:04:29 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-12 13:36:41 EST, you write: << Did you all know that there is a "Freeways" video? >> I sortof guessed that there might be one. Also, was there a second video from FOT80's III that maybe is just hard to find? Just wondering. -Andrew Pepoy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Subject: (hats) 2 for 1 Going to print this week Date: 12 Jan 1997 11:22:09 +0000 Thought you Hatters would like to be the first to know that Oglio's ROY/Folk 2 for 1 will be going to print this week. Once the booklets are printed & shipped, discs made, boxes built etc - we should have finished goods available for sale to customers outside the USA and Canada by Feb 10th. Hopefully MCA will come around and we'll get the USA going soon. Carl Oglio Records # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steven Enz Subject: (hats) Other Videos? Date: 12 Jan 1997 15:11:29 -0800 AJP1313@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-01-12 13:36:41 EST, you write: > > << Did you all know that there is a > "Freeways" video? >> > I sortof guessed that there might be one. Also, was there a second video from > FOT80's III that maybe is just hard to find? Just wondering. > -Andrew Pepoy I have always wondered about this too. I came across an article once that described MWH as making a video for WDTBG (or perhaps a different song from that album) using a "haunted house" motiff. They recorded it while here in Calgary during their FOT80's III tour. However, I have never heard anything to corroberate this (until now of course). Anybody else know anything? Steven Enz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BDay0000@aol.com Subject: Re: (hats) 2 for 1 Going to print this week Date: 12 Jan 1997 22:16:15 -0500 (EST) Carl, Will the US release be the same as the other countries, or, will there bonus tracks or tracks missing, different artwork...etc... Anyone organize a way for us Yanks to get a hold of these yet? Brad Day Atlanta, GA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" Subject: Re: (hats) 2 for 1 Going to print this week Date: 13 Jan 1997 08:26:31 +0000 Hi hatters! Carl sez... [snip] > we should have finished goods available for sale to customers outside > the USA and Canada by Feb 10th. [snip] Last year, when Carl was able to make the Collection available in the US (but unfortunately not abroad), I was glad to help get the CDs to our overseas list friends, and had this wonderful music going to 5 continents! Now maybe someone would like to adopt a few Americans and Canadians? Hatlessly, even tho' it's *darn* cold here!! ;-) Laura PS to SW and MB - I *promise* I'll get my act in gear and write you guys soon! Hope y'all are well! :-) L # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Subject: Re: (hats) 2 for 1 Going to print this week Date: 13 Jan 1997 08:25:12 +0000 Here are the answers to the most common questions I received about the 2 for 1: > Will the US release be the same as the other countries, or, will there bonus > tracks or tracks missing, different artwork...etc... Probably. We have a specific track list in mind and I expect that the others will follow our lead. > Anyone organize a way for us Yanks to get a hold of these yet? I can not organize anything directly but if you guys can find an online mail order service located outside North America I'll try to set them up as a vendor. Carl Oglio Records # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Best Subject: Re: (hats) 2 for 1 Going to print this week Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:44:59 -0700 (MST) >> Anyone organize a way for us Yanks to get a hold of these yet? > >I can not organize anything directly but if you guys can find an online mail >order service located outside North America I'll try to set them up as a >vendor. > >Carl >Oglio Records Well, 'ere in the old UK we are charged anywhere between 10 and 16 UKSterling for a disk, so that equates to 15 to 24 USDollars (approx) plus postage. I suppose I could 'buy bulk' through a friends dad's record shop and hopefully get a reduced price though I'm not sure if the 2 for 1 will be classed as an import or not... The problem is that my company (Global Dynamik - Wang VS software) doesn't have a visa debit account, so maybe someone else who has can help out! Mike PS Bonehead - I thought you'd emigrated to a Net free zone! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Teixeira Subject: (hats) Rational Youth Date: 13 Jan 1997 16:47:57 -0800 I know that this is a little off the MWH topic, but a few months ago we discussed the similarities etc. of MWH and another Montreal synth band Rational Youth. I came across this posting from Tracy Howe of Rational Youth in alt.music.canada and thought that I would repost it in the event some RY fans continue to lurk here. As an aside, it is great to see a band member working at getting his work re-released! Good luck Tracy! Dave Teixeira dteixeir@Direct.CA British Columbia, Canada ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ We are engaged in a campaign to get EMI Canada to re-issue our album "Cold War Night Life" on CD. They have said that if they get enough requests they will put it out. We are asking synthpop fans to go to our homepage, which is located at http://www.lglobal.com/~fitzhowe/ry and follow the email link to EMI which is right on the first page of our site. Then, all we are asking that people do is write "Attention Warren Stewart: Please re-issue Cold War Night Life by Rational Youth" then put your name and the city and country you are writing from. We will thank individually by name every person who informs us that they have done this by listing their name in the booklet of the CD when it is released and on our homepage where we have an honour roll of synthpop heroes who have helped us with this campaign. If you are a fan of Rational Youth, or if you would just like to support a synthpop effort anyway, please take a minute to go to our site and help us with this campaign. Thanks everybody! Tracy Howe Rational Youth Toronto, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ralph Deiterding Subject: (hats) Re: Rational Youth Date: 14 Jan 1997 08:59:48 +0000 Dave: I don't think Rational Youth is too far off topic, as Tracy Howe was in Men Without Hats at one point according to the notes in the Rational Youth "All Our Saturdays" greatest hits CD. Anyways, thanks for letting at least one big Rational Youth fan help to try to get "Cold War Night Life" re-issued on CD. Ralph (A list lurker to this point) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Schumann Subject: (hats) CD Trilogy Date: 14 Jan 1997 09:23:06 -0600 (CST) I, too, missed the videos AND the CD's, but since I have a new wicked fast computer with CD-R drive I am willing to make a batch of copies once I get my own set. I can't say I can produce the same quality product (I make paper labels and stick them to discs for myself), but they will sound the same. Anyone willing to sell their copy or lend it for a week or so? Please e-mail as I'm on the tri-weekly digest. Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Davis Subject: (hats) anyone see this post? Date: 15 Jan 1997 15:40:04 -0800 >From alt.music.synthpop (12/31/96): Message-Id: <5a9rmm$ea5@library.airnews.net> Organization: MIT Reply-To: russell@mit.edu Newsgroups: alt.music.synthpop MWH coming to Club Blue Planet, New Year's Eve. Tickets 15$ in advance, 20$ at door. 8796 N. Central Expy @ Park Lane. 369-7009 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" Subject: Re: (hats) anyone see this post? Date: 16 Jan 1997 10:00:33 +0000 Oops! I accidentally sent my comment only to James the first time. Now that I've had some Dr. Pepper, I feel much more cognitively aware... [Sorry James!] > MWH coming to Club Blue Planet, New Year's Eve. Tickets 15$ in > advance, 20$ at door. 8796 N. Central Expy @ Park Lane. 369-7009 All I can say is AAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHH! Who cares that Dallas is like halfway across the US from here - I'd have gone in a heartbeat!!! Excuse me while I go weep. Hatless in Raleigh, Laura # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Wendt" Subject: (hats) Ivan's new recording Date: 16 Jan 1997 08:19:19 +0100 Does anybody know the status of Ivan's new recording? Wasn't it supposed to be released in January-97? "We coin the phrases like we must win or die, It's all so confusing today, hello goodbye" __________________________________________________________________ Lars Wendt Telenor Online AS Tel + 47 22771900 - ext: + 47 22771806 Fax + 47 22771910 Internet: lars.wendt@online.no P.O.Box 405, 1324 Lysaker, Norway Office: Vollsveien 6, Lysaker __________________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Best Subject: (hats) MWH on new year's eve! Date: 16 Jan 1997 12:46:15 -0700 (MST) What was this 'MWH at Club Blue Planet' exactly? Some DJ spinning some old discs or a mega new dance album by the Great Ones... The truth is out there and we should all find it!! And as for Lars question about Ivan's new recording - did I miss a few weeks info somewhere along the line??? Maybe he means the 2-for-1 which is due out in early Feb... Confused of Deptford (UK!) Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Davis Subject: (hats) Re: MWH in concert? Date: 16 Jan 1997 14:42:15 -0800 >From the source: Russell Miller wrote: > > Turned out I was wrong. It was just a bunch of people doing a cover > band of > MWH... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Schumann Subject: (hats) CD Trilogy Date: 17 Jan 1997 09:40:28 -0600 (CST) So far three people have asked me for copies once I get my copy, but no one has offered to lend or sell me their set. One kind sould has offered to make copies of his set, but he cannot make the same labels as on the original. I'd really like to borrow a set so that I can make paper labels that approximate the cool labels on the original batch. If I'm confused and the labels really aren't all that cool, photocopies of the disc labels will suffice. Is anyone in the US (preferably the midwest) willing to lend me the trilogy package? (Send e-mail. I'm on the digest.) Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gregor Watson Subject: Re: (hats) Videos are finished Date: 18 Jan 1997 10:44:16 GMT At 13:32 12/01/97 -0500, you wrote: > By the way, shouldn't we all be discussing the stuff on the video? > The list has been dead dead dead. I thought that this video and J.R.'s >CDs would awaken this mailing list....... Everyone's been watching the video...no time to read email. Anyway it's great to see and hear some different MWH stuff, there still isn't enough stuff out there though. MWH sound great with guitars in there beside the synths. My personal three of the best are Heaven from the video/ROY CD and WDTBG/Things in my life both also from the ROY CD. Anyone else got any favourites? Gregor # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334@aol.com Subject: (hats) bla bla bla! Date: 18 Jan 1997 14:10:39 -0500 (EST) Hello Hats fan... First: I will do the mailing monday for the MWH pictures. If you want to add your name, do it fast. If you need my address again to send your money order, leave me a message. Second: HEY J.R. did you change your address??? My enveloppe came back!!!! Could you leave me again your address in private. Sorry about that!!!!!! Finally: LARS--> In november, I spoke with someone at Musique Plus. This person told me that Ivan Doroschuck is working right now on a French Solo Album. It was suppose to be ready this winter. If I have any news, I will leave a message Bye bye for now! Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJP1313@aol.com Subject: Re: (hats) Videos are finished Date: 19 Jan 1997 19:19:27 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-18 23:37:53 EST, you write: << Heaven from the video/ROY CD and >> Heaven is on the RoY CD? Not on my copy. Are there multiple versions of the CD? It's not on my LP either. The video and the Freeways Live Cd were the first places I heard it. -Andrew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bugg@marquis.netinc.ca Subject: (hats) Ivan? Date: 19 Jan 1997 23:03:12 -0500 (EST) Beware the ides of March! "If all else fails, use the open eye." - Chonky Orkin Boggles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Bieler Subject: (hats) 2 for 1 - distribution Date: 20 Jan 1997 20:33:06 +0100 (MET) [Carl] > Thought you Hatters would like to be the first to know that Oglio's > ROY/Folk 2 for 1 will be going to print this week. > > Once the booklets are printed & shipped, discs made, boxes built etc - > we should have finished goods available for sale to customers outside > the USA and Canada by Feb 10th. --- [Laura] > Last year, when Carl was able to make the Collection available in the > US (but unfortunately not abroad), I was glad to help get the CDs to > our overseas list friends, and had this wonderful music going to 5 > continents! Now maybe someone would like to adopt a few Americans > and Canadians? --- [Carl] > I can not organize anything directly but if you guys can find an online mail > order service located outside North America I'll try to set them up as a > vendor. --- I don't know, if this has been organized by now. If not, I'd be willing to get the discs for people in the USA and Kanada. There are three possibilities for me to get the discs: 1. Carl sells me a bunch of discs, like he sold special 'Fan-Copies' of 'Collection'. Carl, please contact me, if this is possible (I am in Germany and I am a private person, no company). 2. Get them from an ordinary shop. New CDs are about $16 to $20 US here. If there's a large request, maybe they will grant me some discount. I've never tried that before, so I don't know. 3. There are always people at record faires selling new discs at low prices. Maybe I can get into business with one of them (Never tried before, too). I doubt that the price would be less than $12 US. In any way, shipping from Germany is quite expensive, so my suggestion would be that I'd send a package with multiple CDs to a person in the USA (e.g. Laura :), who will then send them to their individual recipients. Before we will do this, we will check which is the cheapest way. Btw, this might be a reasonable solution from all overseas locations, not only Germany. So folks, please let me know what you think about all this. Greetings, Thomas bielerts@trick.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Schachter Subject: RE: (hats) 2 for 1 - distribution Date: 20 Jan 1997 16:50:14 -0500 (EST) [forward of response to Thomas...] Hi! I'm interested in getting a copy of the new 2for1 CD, and will pay whatever necessary (within reason :) to get it. I could volunteer to be the "transshipment" point in the US if you want. This way you could send me one package with all the CD's and I could forward them. Two potential problems with this idea, though: - I'd rather not pay for all the CD's and then collect the money myself, as I am pretty broke right now and couldn't afford to shell out for n copies. But, if people pay you for the CD and me for shipping they'd have to send two cheques. - US Customs may get upset about one person receiving so many copies of a single CD. They may consider it "importing" rather than a gift or whatever, and may slap an additional duty on it, or get their feathers ruffled. Anyone know the legal implications of doing this? As a foreigner here, I wouldn't want to get deported for customs violations :) Jeff Schachter@pfc.mit.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334@aol.com Subject: (hats) Hats New Album Date: 21 Jan 1997 05:24:58 -0500 (EST) Well, I'm getting confused, BUT a few months ago, I told you that Ivan Doroshuck was recording a French Solo Album. It was for a very good source of me in Musique plus (much music in Montreal). I didn't have more news BUT I just had from another very reliable source in Toronto that Ivan just completed his new album in ENGLISH. It seems that Ivan's "new sound" is back with technology (unlike the sideways stuff). I'm waiting for any other information. Ciao! Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334@aol.com Subject: (hats) Pictures. Date: 21 Jan 1997 05:30:14 -0500 (EST) Hello hats fan! I just mailed all the pictures of MWH during 1983 to 1988. So if you are waiting for them, you should receive them this week. OK due to all the request I had, I will probably go and reproduce another 10 or 15 copies. If anyone wants MWH pictures from 1983 to 1988, leave me a message, I will send you samples so you can judge by yourself if you want it. There is to package. 4 pictures in 4X6 format everything included for 9$ and the big package, 2 4X6 and 2 8X10 format for 25$. So if you are interested, leave me a message this week. Ciao! Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Subject: (hats) New Folk Of The '80s EPs Date: 21 Jan 1997 12:19:38 +0000 I have a friend that found a stack of the Men Without Hats EP "Folk Of The '80s." He says that they are brand new and still in the shrink wrap. He asked me to find out if any of you would be interested and what they would be worth. If you guys are interested I can act as a middle man and you can use a credit card to buy them. E-mail me directly: info@oglio.com There are only 10 copies so I'll take the 10 best offers by 1/31/97 and pass them along. Carl Oglio # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Best Subject: (hats) Hats New Album? Date: 21 Jan 1997 12:47:59 -0700 (MST) Francis wrote: It seems that Ivan's "new sound" is back with technology (unlike the sideways stuff). Was it the beginning of Pop Goes The World where someone said "This is what we've all been waiting for....". Yippee etc! (Is it April 1st yet or am I dreaming?) Dancing with his fingers crossed! Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bugg@marquis.netinc.ca Subject: (hats) March Date: 21 Jan 1997 13:48:35 -0500 (EST) Apparently the album is due out this March. I saw this bit on Much Music (Rapid Fax) last week. Ivan said the album is ALL electronic, which i think is cool. bugg "If all else fails, use the open eye." - Chonky Orkin Boggles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Subject: (hats) New Folk Of The '80s EPs Date: 21 Jan 1997 12:19:38 +0000 I have a friend that found a stack of the Men Without Hats EP "Folk Of The '80s." He says that they are brand new and still in the shrink wrap. He asked me to find out if any of you would be interested and what they would be worth. If you guys are interested I can act as a middle man and you can use a credit card to buy them. E-mail me directly: info@oglio.com There are only 10 copies so I'll take the 10 best offers by 1/31/97 and pass them along. Carl Oglio # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334@aol.com Subject: (hats) about anything Date: 22 Jan 1997 08:25:29 -0500 (EST) Hello gang! First-> I receive some E-Mail regarding the pictures. I didn't take those pictures. They are professional pictures from the band and Ivan itself between 1983 and 1988. They come from Alert Music (the old MWH's manager). They are great by the way. Second-> I did receive another confirmation yesterday from my friend at musique plus. He said that HE'S SURE that Ivan is recording something right now, but he's not sure if it's French or English. Third-> HEY TOM I received you package. INCREDIBLE. The sound is GREAT. 100000000 times thank you for this good work. Fourth-> I was checking the video Where do the boys go yesterday, this is all tape in Montreal, If you come to Montreal one day, I will bring you to this BIG orange ball. It's a restaurant. Is there some else from Montreal, the native land of MWH??? (I'm proud hahahaha) Francis Joannette # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334@aol.com Subject: (hats) pictures Date: 22 Jan 1997 08:26:52 -0500 (EST) ALEX!!!!> Could you give me you E-MAIL address. I forgot to send you the MWH pictures in JPEG format. Bye Francis P.s. C'est tellement plus ce que c'etais que je me demande si ca me l'a jamais ete! (from Folk 80's III) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steven Enz Subject: (hats) Ivan Album Date: 22 Jan 1997 06:35:17 -0800 > Apparently the album is due out this March. I saw this bit on Much Music > (Rapid Fax) last week. Ivan said the album is ALL electronic, which i think > is cool. > > - Chonky Orkin Boggles Deadly! Awesome news! awhile back I predicted that the new Ivan album would sound balanced between various styles he's done, but I couldn't be more happier to be wrong. It might be a bit naive to hope for another ROY or FOTE (I or III) but at least it sounds like he's given up on being another "4/4 in the neighborhood banging on the same guitar"! I can't wait!!! Senz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alex Subject: (hats) To Francis form Alex Date: 22 Jan 1997 18:48:11 +-100 Hello Francis... yes, you are right. My e-mail is alex@redestb.es I am from Spain. See you. Alex # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Subject: (hats) Folk of the '80s EP - WOW! Date: 23 Jan 1997 14:41:41 +0000 I just picked up the Men Without Hats Folk of the '80s EPs from my friend. I am impressed with the condition of the records. They are still in the shrink wrap and have only slight corner wear from being around for 16 years. The track listing is as follows: modern(e) dancing utter space antarctica security (everybody feels better with) The average bid so far is $25. I have a total of 7 available (I thought he had 10 but he only had 8). Carl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Josefsson Per-Johan Subject: (hats) CD Trilogy Date: 24 Jan 1997 08:35:34 +0100 Hello fellow MWH fans! As a digest subscriber I missed the chance to buy a set of the bootleg CDs. Still I would be interested in getting a copy of the set of my own. Anyone who would like to sell it to me? If so, please e-mail me (Per-Johan.Josefsson@ebc.ericsson.se). Best Regards, Per-Johan. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: haloweb@interlog.com (Wolf/Tod) Subject: (hats) Cd Trilogy Date: 24 Jan 1997 03:20:59 -0500 (EST) Johan.... NO WAY !!!!!! (I just recieved mine... couldnt imagine Not having them!!!) I could run you off dat copies (or cassettes) (?) Where do you live ? Wolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Bieler Subject: Re: (hats) 2 for 1 - distribution Date: 24 Jan 1997 19:58:27 +0100 (MET) Hello everybody! Is that all??? One reply to my posting (plus one from Carl)??? Now, before I undertake any further steps, just a general question: Who (of the people in the USA and Kanada) would generally like to have a copy of the forthcoming MWH 2-for-1 CD ROY/FOT80's from me? Please send personal email to: bielerts@trick.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de This is no binding order but I just want to see how much demand exists out there. I'll wait one week and then we'll see. Greetings, Thomas --- > I don't know, if this has been organized by now. If not, I'd be willing to > get the discs for people in the USA and Kanada. > There are three possibilities for me to get the discs: > > 1. Carl sells me a bunch of discs, like he sold special 'Fan-Copies' of > 'Collection'. Carl, please contact me, if this is possible (I am in > Germany and I am a private person, no company). > > 2. Get them from an ordinary shop. New CDs are about $16 to $20 US here. > If there's a large request, maybe they will grant me some discount. I've > never tried that before, so I don't know. > > 3. There are always people at record faires selling new discs at low prices. > Maybe I can get into business with one of them (Never tried before, too). > I doubt that the price would be less than $12 US. > > In any way, shipping from Germany is quite expensive, so my suggestion would > be that I'd send a package with multiple CDs to a person in the USA (e.g. > Laura :), who will then send them to their individual recipients. Before we > will do this, we will check which is the cheapest way. Btw, this might be a > reasonable solution from all overseas locations, not only Germany. > > So folks, please let me know what you think about all this. > > Greetings, Thomas > > bielerts@trick.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: haloweb@interlog.com (Wolf/Tod) Subject: (hats) Tom..... Date: 24 Jan 1997 17:16:17 -0500 (EST) Tom - I N C R E D I B L E ! ! ! ! ! I feel privledged to have a set ... Thanxs Always wanted to hear "Messiahs die young" Live (early version of WDTBG is incredible!) .. So glad they eventually upgraded to a REAL drummer and bass player Question: was the 1983 show in that exact song order ? (or did you re-sequence the order ?) The Toronto show (1983) was recorded by Comfort Sound and engineered / mixed by Doug McClement Its was either recorded at Larry's Hideaway or Palace Royale in Toronto for CFNY FM 102.1 Radio. (in case anyone cared) Anyways, thanks again for all the hard work ...... Wolfgang # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david richards Subject: (hats) Re: 80's Newsletter Date: 24 Jan 1997 18:34:07 -0500 > Hi. > > This is not strictly MWH info, but closely realted, so I hope you'll forgive the > interuption. > > I publish a newsletter about music from the 80's called "Lexicon". I have no managed to > put it up on the web yet, but if you want a free copy just send me an SASE with 55 cents > postage (Two IRC's if you're outside the country). > > This issue has an interview with Martin Ware of Heaven 17 and Tim Freeman of Frazier > Chorus. It also has an ABC singles discography and a complete Strawberry Switchblade > discography. It has some MHW new, but it is all stuff I've gleaned from being a regular > reader of this group. > > Thanks, by the way, for all the good news you guys have about MWH. I consider this a > vaulable resource! > > -Best wishes, > David Richards > Lexicon > 9826 Hollow Glen Pl > Silver Spring, MD 20910 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jupiter-8@juno.com (Rod MacQuarrie) Subject: (hats) Re: 2-for-1 CD Date: 25 Jan 1997 08:42:12 EST Hey Carl: No mention has been made of the song order on the new 2-for-1 CD. Are you going with the original Canadian release order? Thanks... Rod # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Subject: (hats) Re: 2-for-1 CD Date: 25 Jan 1997 06:20:26 +0000 Good question. There was debate earlier about Canadian vs. US track sequence. Since both sides had good points we decided to give MWH fans the closest thing to an original CD. We used the same cover design of the ROY & Folk (III) _CDs_ and the same track listing in the order it appeared on the original CDs. Rhythm of Youth Ban The Game Living In China The Great Ones Remember I Got The Message Cocoricci (Le Tango des Voleurs) The Safety Dance Ideas for Walls Things In My Life I Like The Great Ones Remember (reprise) Antarctica Folk of the 80’s (Part III) No Dancing Unsatisfaction Where Do The Boys Go? Mothers Opinion Eurotheme Messiahs Die Young I Know Their Name Folk Of The 80's I Sing Last / Not For Tears There you have it! Carl Oglio Rod MacQuarrie wrote: > > Hey Carl: > > No mention has been made of the song order on the new 2-for-1 CD. Are you > going with the original Canadian release order? > > Thanks... > > Rod # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jupiter-8@juno.com (Rod MacQuarrie) Subject: (hats) Re: 2-for-1 CD Date: 25 Jan 1997 09:32:40 EST On Sat, 25 Jan 1997 06:20:26 +0000 Carl writes: >We used the same cover design of the ROY & Folk (III) _CDs_ and the >same >track listing in the order it appeared on the original CDs. > >Folk of the 80=92s (Part III) > No Dancing > Unsatisfaction > Where Do The Boys Go? > Mothers Opinion > Eurotheme > Messiahs Die Young > I Know Their Name > Folk Of The 80's > I Sing Last / Not For Tears > >There you have it! > >Carl Oglio What??? No "Where TO the Boys Go?" :) ^^ Rod # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Russ Kemsley" Subject: RE: (hats) Re: 2-for-1 CD Date: 26 Jan 1997 04:44:25 UT Carl...you said: Antarctica ...is in the track list. I thought Antartica was out. ??? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kahlil Subject: (hats) Record auction & sale Date: 26 Jan 1997 15:23:24 -0800 Sometimes collections get a little out of hand, which has prompted me to sell off some of my duplicates and things that just don't get listened to. Includes 80's material. Visit my web site at http://www.hevanet.com/kahlil/jtqframe.htm for the list and info. KGB. Note: This message also sent to the Yello and ZTT mailing lists. I know many of you are on all of these, so I apologize for the multiple notices. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Subject: Re: (hats) Re: 2-for-1 CD Date: 26 Jan 1997 08:17:14 +0000 Russ: It is back in. We opted against the extended Safety Dance in favor of Antarctica. Carl [NOTICE: This message was delayed on its way to the list because it contained excess quoted text, which has been automatically removed. To prevent this from happening to your messages, be sure to include as little text as possible from the message you are responding to.] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthonetta Nel" Subject: (hats) MWH-2-for1CD Date: 27 Jan 1997 10:13:51 +0000 Hi there Hats fans, When the new 2-for-1 CD is available will someone out there please think of a big fan in South Africa! I imported the MWH Collection from CD World because it is not even available here. So now you know how long I probably have to wait if there is no help from other fans. I would like to get hold of a CD as soon as possible!! PLEASE (Sorry for my bad English - I am Afrikaans speaking) Anthonetta Nel Equipment Engineer anel@alcatel.altron.co.za Tel: +27 11 899 6447 Fax: +27 11 899 6378 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ian@spam.ctr.usf.edu (Ian Ingham) Subject: (hats) Request from Chile Date: 28 Jan 1997 10:37:09 -0500 Hi all, I just received a FAX from a person in Chile named Patricio Nathan (or is that Nathan Patricio?). Anyway, he is looking for info on getting the 3CD and VHS compilations, if there are ever any more made. His fax in Chile is (562) 777-3674 if anyone can/wants to help him out. ian Ian Ingham Phone: (813) 974-5003 FAX: (813) 974-4180 E-Mail: ian@spam.ctr.usf.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334@aol.com Subject: (hats) Folk of the pictures Part III Date: 29 Jan 1997 22:30:07 -0500 (EST) I like this title!!! I received some message regarding the format of the picture. Some people asked me if it's possible to get MWH's pictures in 3" x 5" format. YES it's possible and it's less expensive. For 5$ you can get the 4 pictures. Dont forget they are autographied (is it the right word?????) If you prefer, the band putted their signature on them. Let me know if you are interested. Francis from the home of MWH!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Denny Garbuio" Subject: (hats) Howdy Date: 27 Jan 1997 12:53:19 -0800 Hello! My name is Denny and I'm new to the mailing list. I am a big fan of the early MWH. Lately, I have not been to keen (that rhymes!) with their releases, but now that the greatest hats is out I am back in the swing of things. I love "I LIKE" and "I GOT THE MESSAGE"!! I think the Pet Shop Boys could do a great remake version of IGTM with Bananarama singing the chorus! Whatya think? I must ask this!! Why in the video for I LIKE, does the background letters spell I LIKE "T"? What does this mean? I have always wondered... Denny # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lshar1766@lsvax.lsmsa.edu Subject: (hats) Pop Goes the World Date: 30 Jan 1997 10:28:30 -0600 You know, I find it strange how everyone loves early MWH but doesn't have much to say about their later stuff. I love ROY and Folk of the Eighties but I personally think that Pop Goes the World is their best work. 21st Century is impressive too. Why doesn't anyone ever talk about that? Oh, and does anyone know how to get a copy of the Pop Goes the World video collection? Hillary # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Thomas Subject: (hats) To Tempe Video Date: 30 Jan 1997 12:33:04 -0600 This message is for Tempe Video(J.R>), I have lost your e-mail due to another computer problem, but wanted to let you know that the money order was sent and should be there shortly. If you get this, or if anyone reading this could forward his direct e-mail to me it would be greatly appreciated. Thank You. Michael Thomas mthomas1@mindspring.com ...Mother, Mother, can't you see, everyone's in love with me... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Bieler Subject: Re: (hats) Pop Goes the World Date: 30 Jan 1997 19:59:53 +0100 (MET) > > You know, I find it strange how everyone loves early MWH but doesn't have > much to say about their later stuff. I love ROY and Folk of the Eighties > but I personally think that Pop Goes the World is their best work. 21st > Century is impressive too. Why doesn't anyone ever talk about that? Oh, > and does anyone know how to get a copy of the Pop Goes the World video > collection? > Hillary Hehe, picked up a used copy of PGTW for $7 right yesterday. It's $25 at the only regular store in town that has it. Although it was a wednesday, I loved 'On Tuesday' from the very first time I listened to it. (Most music I like needed more time to grow on me.) They were really at their best in ballads! Think of 'You And Me' or 'Everybody Wants To Know'! And yes, Hillary, I'd also say that I like PGTW (the song) most of all I've heard from them so far (including ROY). In particular, I love the awsome remixes. Hmm, so why does noone ever talk about these albums? Perhaps they are not rare enough? ;-) I wonder what we'll talk about when everybody has the 2in1 ... Greetings, Thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gregor Watson Subject: Re: (hats) Pop Goes the World Date: 30 Jan 1997 22:29:03 GMT >21st >Century is impressive too. Why doesn't anyone ever talk about that? "Underneath the rainbow" and "I'm in love" are IMO two of the very best songs ever - All time, not just MWH tracks. Gregor # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dstroud@arwen-143.Eng.Sun.COM (Donald Stroud) Subject: Re: (hats) PGTW/21st Century talk! Date: 30 Jan 1997 16:36:01 -0800 > > >21st >Century is impressive too. Why doesn't anyone ever talk about that? > I used to talk about "21st Century" and "Pop" all the time. But it seems like the majority of the fans on the mailing list enjoy the first two albums more. Don't get me wrong, I love just about everything the band created... hell, it was "Safety Dance" that got me hooked on techno-pop to begin with! But the later albums struck an emotional chord in me... they appealed to me in a way that was much deeper than just "fun to listen to". "Pop Goes The World" (the song) will forever live on in my memory... I mimed the entire video for the song to the love of my life. She thought it was hysterical. We're no longer together, sadly enough, and everytime I hear it I remember the smile on her face and how much I still love her. Which leads me to "Bright Side Of The Sun". Hearing that song for the first time was like a punch in the gut, as the aforementioned woman and I had parted ways (on her insistance), and I'd had fallings-out with a couple of very good friends. It's still my fondest wish that one day I and all the people I miss will find some way to meet again and continue what I believe was merely put on hold. I've ended many, many, many mixed tapes with this song. "O Sole Mio" really hits home because of the situation I find myself in now: far from my original home and without much meaningful human contact. (For some reason, I used to make my own videos for this song in my head... they all ended with Ivan atop a rainbow, arms spread, surveying a lush green landscape. Dunno why...) "In The 21st Century" is wonderful. I can't explain it any better than that. Sometimes there are sounds or sights or smells that grab you and won't let go... this song is like that. And after getting Tom's tape and finally seeing the video, it's leapt WAAAAAY up on my list of faves. That video is truly something special. "You & Me" is haunting. I love how Ivan talks about all these major events in his life that, to anyone else, would be so trivial, but to him are moments of epiphany. The 'angel in a stream' line is something I can relate to, having spent an afternoon wading down a river with a girlfriend and having the time of my life. And the most important event in his life? 'You and me.' Really, really touching. (See my comments above about the love of my life...) "All We Do" is another song that makes you look at what's in front of you in a different light. 'If all we do is live and die..' It's so cool how the lyrics cause you to notice what you have, how important it is to experience everything, and about how life is something special, something that people seem to take for granted. Okay, sorry for being so long-winded, but I've been in a wordy, emotive mood lately. And someone *did* ask for some discussion about these albums, so it's not all my fault!... Looking forward to the 2-on-1 CD, Don2 dstroud@captaina.Eng.Sun.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steven Enz Subject: (hats) Re: Pop Goes the World/21 Century Date: 30 Jan 1997 20:00:56 -0800 > You know, I find it strange how everyone loves early MWH but doesn't have > much to say about their later stuff. > Hillary Actually, I remember taking a poll of the hats listing about six months ago and Pop Goes the World came out on top. The exact results were: Pop Goes The World--------9.411 FOT80 / FREEWAYS---------9.400 Rhythm Of Youth-----------9.222 FOT80 III-----------------8.644 Adventures in 21 Century--8.056 Sideways------------------6.375 (people rated every album out of 10 and the average was taken) Times change of coarse so the numbers might be a little different if it were taken now. Personally, I was extatic when I first heard 21 Century and I would give just about anything if MWH came out with another album of similar quality! Like Don Stroud, I have many personal memories that I associate to that period in time, made even more memorable because of this album. I think we all do because this album does have some very intense and emotional works. Ivan did well to communicate those ideas to us! I still can't figure out what happened with Sideways though! There seems to be anger and frustration coming from this one. (And IMHO, little else!) Pop Goes The World is my favourite album. The title track, On Tuesday, O Sole Mio, Lose My Way, Moonbeam, Jenny Wore Black and especially The End (of the World) are all songs that have no equal ANYWHERE in the entire world. One thing about PGTW is that it was done as a single work of art, unfolding like a story and refering to itself while Ivan even refers to his own past! PGTW is unparalleled, beautiful, and simply THE best album in existance! Senz Senz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: abradfor@srv2.ic.net Subject: (hats) What is this? Date: 30 Jan 1997 22:46:44 -0500 (EST) I am new to this list. MWH has been with me since I first heard Safety Dance. Each work is excellent in itself. Each work is progressively better than the last. Sideways has some of the best lyrical content ever written! The musical content is a step in a different direction, and it is a direction that I enjoyed very much. Sideways is not the first work to have a different musical content. From synth-pop to a "tasteful" broad range styling pop to a r'n'r pop to Sideways(a delightful mix of stylings), MWH has always been progressive. Sideways is a step away from the pop stylings we were used to hearing. The feeling is still there, though. And let us not forget, Sideways has the first Beatles cover song that was better than the original! Later, Andrew Bradford # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lshar1766@lsvax.lsmsa.edu Subject: (hats) Thank You Date: 30 Jan 1997 21:46:58 -0600 To All the people who replied to my Pop Goes the World querie: Thank You. I'm glad some others agree with me that PGTW is the best album in existence. I'm also glad that someone else thinks that Underneath the Rainbow is the best song ever. I know I do. Thanks guys, Hillary # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: haloweb@interlog.com Subject: (hats) Re: Dons Emotive powers Date: 30 Jan 1997 23:25:03 -0500 Don.... your "longwindedness and emotive mood swings" are welcome anytime . thanks for sharing. wolfgang # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jupiter-8@juno.com (Rod MacQuarrie) Subject: (hats) Re: Pop Goes the World/21 Century Date: 30 Jan 1997 23:37:16 EST On Thu, 30 Jan 1997 20:00:56 -0800 Steven Enz writes: >Actually, I remember taking a poll of the hats listing about six >months >ago and Pop Goes the World came out on top. The exact results were: > >Pop Goes The World--------9.411 >FOT80 / FREEWAYS---------9.400 >Rhythm Of Youth-----------9.222 >FOT80 III-----------------8.644 >Adventures in 21 Century--8.056 >Sideways------------------6.375 Hmmm...I just might want to change my vote now...I'm preferring them almost in order of release as time goes on....But then again there's 21st Century....I hate those kind of decisions!!! >Personally, I was extatic when I first heard 21 >Century >and I would give just about anything if MWH came out with another >album >of similar quality! I disliked this album when it first came out...now I absolutely love it! Times change... >I still can't figure out what happened with Sideways though! There >seems to be anger and frustration coming from this one. (And IMHO, >little else!) Ditto...but somewhat before its time wouldn't you say? >The title track, On Tuesday, >O >Sole Mio, Lose My Way, Moonbeam, Jenny Wore Black and especially The >End >(of the World) are all songs that have no equal ANYWHERE in the entire >world... Yes...same with every other song ever done in the entire world.... ..PGTW is unparalleled, beautiful, and simply THE best >album >in existance! Hmmmm....that's pushing it a little...What of Roxy Music's "Avalon"??? That has got to be the best one "ever" in my opinion... Rod # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steven Enz Subject: (hats) Re: What is this (Sideways)? Date: 30 Jan 1997 22:18:37 -0800 abradfor@srv2.ic.net wrote: > Sideways has some of the best lyrical content ever written! I agree that Ivan's poetic communication continued to shine through even in this album. > Sideways is not the first work to have a different musical content. From > synth-pop to a "tasteful" broad range styling pop to a r'n'r pop to > Sideways(a delightful mix of stylings) I disagree here though. Except for sideways, MWH is not that easily pigeon-holed. In the beginning Ivan went through great lengths to go beyond the music of the day. (ie create something new and different) It seems to me that in Sideways he made no such effort. Rod MacQuarrie, this is what I mean when I say a song "has no equal". Some songs are very uniquly constructed and others are simply rip-offs (blatantly sometimes) of earlier songs or ideas. There aren't many songs or artists (for that matter!) who don't continuously mimmick other more sucessful artists. and yes I do believe that PGTW is even better than Avalon! Just a matter of taste here though, Rod ;-) Senz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BCKTHFCUP@aol.com Subject: Re: (hats) What is this? Date: 31 Jan 1997 03:48:13 -0500 (EST) well hello everyone i am new to list well im not the one to be listed its my brother. My computer though, but anyways he love the men without hats so i found this for him he reads all the letters and has great stuff to say but is shy! So i thought once again and help him out(after all he is family) with talking on the list here. So maybe if some of u wrote to the list maybe to mention him, his name is dave Woodman. Im not to sure what to say but maybe anything im sure some of u can think of something! thanx tj # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Wendt" Subject: Re: (hats) Pop Goes the World Date: 31 Jan 1997 10:35:29 +0100 I agree with you Hillary and Thomas. Personally I find PGTW one of the best pop-albums ever to be written. More than ROY and FOT80's it is cleverly balanced between up-beat and off-tempo music. It is also a concept album which is neatly tied together in the beginning and the end. I think of it as a circle of good music which never stops. You can play it over and over and it never stops to amaze me how cleverly it is put together. It is really well-produced and all the music is really melodic. I also believe that since ROY and FOT80 has become so rare, more and more people wanted to get what they couldn't get. I think it is obvious that most of the success of this list is based on the fact that ROY and FOT80 is impossible to get hold of. It wouldn't be so fun chasing a record which was in every shop in the world. Some of the excitement would be lost then. I think that most of us wants to prove to the rest of the world that MWH really made great music. We still hope that the new records would sell in great volumes and that Ivan & co would get really popular again, since they never really got to stay at the top. I have never heard the mixes of PGTW though, so I still have something to look forward to, if someone wants to make copies available. Greetings Lars 'Ladies and Gentlemen: Pop Goes the World by Men Without Hats' > > You know, I find it strange how everyone loves early MWH but doesn't have > much to say about their later stuff. I love ROY and Folk of the Eighties > but I personally think that Pop Goes the World is their best work. 21st > Century is impressive too. Why doesn't anyone ever talk about that? Oh, > and does anyone know how to get a copy of the Pop Goes the World video > collection? > Hillary Hehe, picked up a used copy of PGTW for $7 right yesterday. It's $25 at the only regular store in town that has it. Although it was a wednesday, I loved 'On Tuesday' from the very first time I listened to it. (Most music I like needed more time to grow on me.) They were really at their best in ballads! Think of 'You And Me' or 'Everybody Wants To Know'! And yes, Hillary, I'd also say that I like PGTW (the song) most of all I've heard from them so far (including ROY). In particular, I love the awsome remixes. Hmm, so why does noone ever talk about these albums? Perhaps they are not rare enough? ;-) I wonder what we'll talk about when everybody has the 2in1 ... Greetings, Thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. __________________________________________________________________ Lars Wendt Telenor Online AS Tel + 47 22771900 - ext: + 47 22771806 Fax + 47 22771910 Internet: lars.wendt@online.no P.O.Box 405, 1324 Lysaker, Norway Office: Vollsveien 6, Lysaker __________________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANCOIS BLAWAT Subject: (hats) MWH Video/Cd's Date: 31 Jan 1997 08:53:25 -0600 Hi all, Any word yet on when there will be another video or cd out? I've written to this list three separate times and I haven't heard back. All I've heard is that Olgio will be releasing a CD but not for sale in the US. Francois # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CartOOn Guy Subject: Re: (hats) Howdy Date: 31 Jan 1997 14:24:17 -0500 (EST) >things. I love "I LIKE" and "I GOT THE MESSAGE"!! I think the Pet Shop Boys >could do a great remake version of IGTM with Bananarama singing the chorus! >Whatya think? Actually that wouldn't sound too bad. Good idea! And welcome to the mailing list :) I think Pet Shop Boys would also do a good cover of "The Great Ones Remember" seeing that they also write lyrics which sometimes are difficult to understand the meaning of the songs. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> <> HAVE A SURREAL DAY! <> <> Bored? Read some comics at <> <> http://www.interlog.com/~daniele <> <> This month's issue is now up! <> <> Daniele Rossi <> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> apelle figlio di apollo fece una palla di pelle di pollo tutti i pesci vennero a galla per vedere la palla di apelle figlio di apollo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Bieler Subject: Re: (hats) Pop Goes the World Date: 31 Jan 1997 21:25:12 +0100 (MET) > I also believe that since ROY and FOT80 has become so rare, more and more > people wanted to get what they couldn't get. I think it is obvious that most of > the success of this list is based on the fact that ROY and FOT80 is impossible > to get hold of. It wouldn't be so fun chasing a record which was in every shop > in the world. Some of the excitement would be lost then. Carl, what kinda people are the two of us? We're gonna DESTROY this list! ;-) [snicker!] Thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lshar1766@lsvax.lsmsa.edu Subject: (hats) PGTW/21st Century Date: 31 Jan 1997 15:56:00 -0600 I was very happy at my response to the Pop Goes the World message. And I agree\with the person who said that this mailing list thrives because of the fact that ROY and FOT80 are so rare. But hey, I've never seen a copy of 21st Century on CD and I've only seen 1 of Pop Goes the World, the one my brother found for a dollar. And I don't even have a copy of Sideways. Where do you guys find these CD's. When PGTW came out, I was only 7 years old so I hardly went out and bought the CD. If anybody happens to have an extra copy just lying around... Hillary # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: smoky3@ix.netcom.com (Christofer Evangelista) Subject: Re: (hats) Pop Goes the World Date: 31 Jan 1997 22:22:45 -0800 >I think the reason the first two albums are my favorites is because they >used the raw Prophet-5 instruments (for those with the video its the >wooden looking synths - three of them used in the concert). That synth >has a quality about it that make the songs sound so....synth poppy...And >Men Without Hats wrote great synthpop on the first two albums. The next >two albums used alot of digital stuff and sampled voices...then came the >grunge on the last one. As someone who prefers the old analog sound over >digital or even guitar, I feel that the first two albums are best just >because of the instruments they used. The sound is so unique and brash >and bubbly. But when you think about it, the songs really remained quite >the same from album to album but the band used different instruments to >songwrite with. You gotta love that rennisance (sp?) medival sound that created with those cool sounding analog synths. The Great ones remember also had some interesting synth arrangements and is one of my fave songs. Folk of the 80s had some experimental digital stuff (the weird clashing sound on Eurotheme for example) that kind of continued the experimentation with electronics. The later stuff does have some analogish sounds on it (Moonbeam, Walk on Water, I'm in love) but it isn't the same. Still I like Pop goes the world and In the 21st century nonetheless, but I'll always love Rhythm of youths synthy sound. It was that album that taught me how to play keyboards. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender.