From: "Wooldridge, Simon" Subject: (hats) Another test message from Si Date: 01 Mar 1998 13:05:38 -0000 Hopefully, finally, this is the last test message I`ll have to send. I should now be subscribed via the right server..... ttfn, Si Wooldridge Senior Systems Equipment Engineer Lucent Technologies swooldri@lucent.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wooldridge, Simon" Subject: (hats) Attn Ralph/Claude - I`m back.... Date: 01 Mar 1998 13:29:30 -0000 Apologies to uninterested parties...... Ralph/Claude, I take by the absence of replies from either of you that my mails haven`t been getting to you. Now my Hats mailing is sorted now, you should be able to reply direct to this mail and get through OK. My e-mail address hasn`t changed as far as I`m aware, but our IT dept have had a ton of problems since we moved to our new offices so that could well be the cause. Anyway, after some messing around on both my Exchange and Unix servers, I appear have resumed normal service. Look forward to hearing from you both. ttfn, Si Wooldridge Senior Systems Equipment Engineer Lucent Technologies swooldri@lucent.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAGENTA Subject: (hats) re: concert *update* Date: 01 Mar 1998 08:52:03 -0800 (PST) howdy folx! francis, the only input i would have for this thing *BESIDES getting it booked ;)* is, yes i would like for the other two bros. to be involved as well as strongly routing for an indoor venue...list of songs don't matter, opening act would be nice....um....i THINK that's all for now...*lol* anyone else? ttyl, -C- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nikolai81 Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan's private show - UPDATE Date: 01 Mar 1998 15:53:44 EST In a message dated 98-02-28 11:44:48 EST, JDivito334@aol.com writes: > My personnal questions will me: > > 1- Could we choose the songs we want > 2- Could we have other member of MWH on stage (stefan or Collin) > 3- Could we have our opening show > 4- Coud we tape the show. > > Any more questions ?????? Can we have a CD-Recording hook-up? Instead of transferring the video tape to CD, we could just record it live :) I hope this wasn't already asked ;) --Nick # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: (hats) My computer is down!!! Date: 01 Mar 1998 19:25:11 EST My computer will not work properly and I can't get online. :-( If anyone there can help me, please tell me what to do. Windows 95 will only start in "safe mode" and I don't know how to get it started in normal mode. :-( If you can give me advice, write me at adtooley@hotmail.com I need to get back ASAP to keep in touch with those who have info on the concert!!! Thank you !!!! Angie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: (hats) I'm back online Date: 01 Mar 1998 23:05:09 EST Everything is OK now. I came back from Montreal to find my computer down. Called Microsoft tech support and they set me straight. So, back to business! Angie :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ralph Deiterding Subject: Re: (hats) Attn Ralph/Claude - I`m back.... Date: 02 Mar 1998 12:01:08 +0000 Wooldridge, Simon wrote: > > Apologies to uninterested parties...... > > Ralph/Claude, > > I take by the absence of replies from either of you that my mails > haven`t been getting to you. Now my Hats mailing is sorted now, you > should be able to reply direct to this mail and get through OK. My > e-mail address hasn`t changed as far as I`m aware, but our IT dept have > had a ton of problems since we moved to our new offices so that could > well be the cause. I tried a direct reply to you on Sunday with no luck. I've been getting your mails, but still can't get one to you. I'll keep trying. Ralph # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dolphind@interlog.com Subject: (hats) Ivan Live in Toronto Date: 03 Mar 1998 12:55:04 -0800 I just read that Ivan is playing LIVE at The Guvernment this Friday, March 6th here in Toronto. I don't know if this has been mentioned before or not as I have been away for 9 days. Kirk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Claude Grégoire" Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan Live in Toronto Date: 03 Mar 1998 14:00:28 -0500 dolphind@interlog.com a =E9crit: >=20 > I just read that Ivan is playing LIVE at The Guvernment this Friday, Ma= rch > 6th here in Toronto. I don't know if this has been mentioned before or = not > as I have been away for 9 days. Hum... Are you sure about that? I'll have to check it out in the TOX Ivan= 's concert listing... Sure... Claude # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cpisarr1@ic3.ithaca.edu Subject: (hats) message for al Date: 03 Mar 1998 13:30:25 -0500 (EST) Al, I wrote to you a while ago about me going up to Montreal. I was wondering if you would have any time in the next two weeks to support a desperate kid in your home? Not for two weeks...just one or two days in the next 2 weeks. Thanx COllin **************************************** ******************************* ALWAYS REMEMBER THESE LINES: *************** "Big Bucks, Big Bucks....Stop." ********** "On a whammy." *************** ******************************* **************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniele Rossi Subject: (hats) Ivan concert in Toronto Friday Date: 03 Mar 1998 17:56:12 -0500 Friday March 6, The Guvernment, Toronto. http://www.ticketmaster.ca This is for Canadian Music Week Festival -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Online Comic Book http://www.interlog.com/~daniele 883 Fan Page...dal Canada? http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3603 Spandau Ballet Unofficial Homepage --coming soon: CHAT! http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/7994 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Norman" Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan Live in Toronto Date: 03 Mar 1998 20:19:08 -0500 > I just read that Ivan is playing LIVE at The Guvernment this Friday, March > 6th here in Toronto. I don't know if this has been mentioned before or not > as I have been away for 9 days. > > Kirk Wow! More tour dates??? Cool. Does the TOX webpage have these new dates on it? :-) Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Candace Roberts Subject: (hats) vinyl shops in the UK Date: 02 Mar 1998 19:51:17 -0500 I'm looking to speak with anyone who might have access to some large popular music-based record shops in the UK?? I'm looking for some 7" vinyl by former lead singer of Living In A Box (Richard Darbyshire). If you can help in any way, please contact me. I will certainly pay you handsomely if you find some items. Some examples I'm looking for: Wherever Love Is Found/ Her Signature This I Swear/ Perfect Romance These vinyl items have some rare b-sides I'm attempting to track down. Thanks for listening. Sincerely Gordon icehouse@worldnet.att.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Claude Grégoire" Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan Live in Toronto Date: 04 Mar 1998 00:43:57 -0500 Tom Norman a =E9crit: >=20 > > I just read that Ivan is playing LIVE at The Guvernment this Friday, > March > > 6th here in Toronto. I don't know if this has been mentioned before o= r > not > > as I have been away for 9 days. > > > > Kirk >=20 > Wow! > More tour dates??? Cool. Does the TOX webpage have these new dates = on > it? :-) As usual, the TOX website is very up to date on hot news. Seen lately; Iv= an is supposed to release a new CD called THE SPELL... last year. I'm so excited Claude # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: Re: (hats) Idea for opening act Date: 04 Mar 1998 07:05:58 EST In a message dated 98-03-03 23:45:46 EST, you write: << he discussion that's been going on about the opening act for the Ivan fan club show has given me an idea. Here it is. Since there is a MWH covers CD being put together, and most of the people involved are going to be at the concert, why not have the various groups (or some subset of them) do their Hats covers as the opening act. We could set it up like so everyone uses the same microphones, amps, and drum kit, but brings their own instruments (keys, guitars, and basses) up with them. This would allow us to transitition between artists quite quickly (this is the same idea they use at most open mike nights). This would give us the advantage of an opening act that we wouldn't have to pay. People would already know the songs. People would already know the artists and the interpretations of the songs since the CD would be readily available to list members. Finally, it would keep it sort of a "family" affair since all of the opening artists would be list members. Comments?>> I have a comment. It sounds like a good idea, but wouldn't it be a little tacky to open the show with the same songs Ivan is going to play for us? It's pretty non-traditional to open a concert with your own rendition of the concert act's music. I love the idea of the fan compilation CD, but I think that project should be separate and alone from the private concert. Any other comments? Angie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike Subject: (hats) Private Show Date: 04 Mar 1998 18:52:02 +0100 >Can we have a CD-Recording hook-up? Instead of transferring the video tape to >CD, we could just record it live :) > >I hope this wasn't already asked ;) > >--Nick I would strongly advise _not_ using CD-R in a live situation - use DAT or better still several DAT units. Maximum time on CD is 74 minutes but 124 on DAT (at full quality of course). Then, its a simple case of sending me the actual DAT (or giving me a copy after the gig!!) and I'll cut the master CD-R for others to duplicate asap. But then again, what do I know... }:-) Mike Pigpen Digital, London PS ...quite a lot actually! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nathan Shireman Subject: Re: (hats) Idea for opening act Date: 04 Mar 1998 18:26:26 -0500 (EST) I would have to agree with Angie on that one... that is, opening with songs that MWH would play anyway. I like the idea, but I think it would be just a little too weird, not only for us, but for Ivan and Co. as well. By the way, is this concert actually a go? I haven't heard that anything has been contracted yet. Nathan Oh, Tom, was it you that was selling the CD#4, or someone else. I'd love a copy from whoever is doing the CD 4 thing. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: Re: (hats) Idea for opening act Date: 04 Mar 1998 20:10:28 EST Nothing has actually been contracted as of yet. It seems Francis keeps playing "telephone tag" with Ivan's manager....things are rolling along, though. We will keep you up to date on any new developments. Angie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334 Subject: Re: (hats) Idea for opening act Date: 04 Mar 1998 21:45:00 EST I agree with you. I guess if there is a lot of people who wants to do their version of MWH songs, that will kill the show. That's why I was not too much excited about an opening act BUT a second show??? WHY NOT, that could be terrific.!! ciao Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334 Subject: (hats) Problem to sleep... Listen to the WINNEBAGO SONG! Date: 04 Mar 1998 21:44:59 EST Hey! Did you listen the winnebago song ???? This is the perfect song with 2 aspirins just before going to sleep... Ciao Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334 Subject: (hats) Ivan's private show. Date: 04 Mar 1998 21:45:02 EST This is not an easy one. Like I told you before, IVan's manager is VERY busy with 2 others band in montreal. I reached him last week, he told me that we have to set a meeting and discuss about the show. I'M READY!!!! HE'S NOT !!! ARGRGRGGGG He called me back yesterday, I was out of town for work. Today, I left him 2 messages. He has my work phone, cellular and home. DON`T WORRY, I WILL GET EVERYTHING TO MAKE THE BEST SHOW EVER HAPPEN IN THE WORLD!!!!! Ciao Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: Re: (hats) Idea for opening act Date: 04 Mar 1998 21:45:43 EST In a message dated 98-03-04 21:45:00 EST, you write: << I agree with you. I guess if there is a lot of people who wants to do their version of MWH songs, that will kill the show. That's why I was not too much excited about an opening act BUT a second show??? WHY NOT, that could be terrific.!! >> A second show? What are we talking about now? Angie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nikolai81 Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan's private show. Date: 04 Mar 1998 22:12:22 EST In a message dated 98-03-04 21:47:18 EST, JDivito334@aol.com writes: > DON`T WORRY, I WILL GET EVERYTHING TO MAKE THE BEST SHOW EVER HAPPEN IN THE > WORLD!!!!! WOO-HOO!! --Nick # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniele Rossi Subject: (hats) who's going to the Toronto concert? Date: 05 Mar 1998 11:00:28 -0500 Hi all! Just wondering, who's going to the Toronto Ivan performance? E-mail me if you are. So far, I haven't been able to reach Ticketmaster to see how much tickets cost and at what time the show starts. And the website said absolutley nothing. Pearl Jam was right. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Online Comic Book http://www.interlog.com/~daniele 883 Fan Page...dal Canada? http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3603 Spandau Ballet Unofficial Homepage --coming soon: CHAT! http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/7994 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Claude Grégoire" Subject: Re: (hats) who's going to the Toronto concert? Date: 05 Mar 1998 12:50:02 -0500 Daniele Rossi a =E9crit: >=20 > Just wondering, who's going to the Toronto Ivan performance? So far, I= =20 > haven't been able to reach Ticketmaster to see how much > tickets cost and at what time the show starts. And the website said > absolutely nothing. The website. Are you talking about the TOX website? If you are, look more carefully, everything is there, all the dates, all the news... Take care Claude # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" Subject: (hats) Triangle Chapter of MWH Fan Club Meeting Date: 05 Mar 1998 13:29:25 +0000 Hi Hatters! The Research Triangle (NC) Chapter of the Men Without Hats Internet Fan Club will be holding a luncheon meeting in the next week or so. Any Hats fans in the area who would like to join us, please email me and I will keep you apprised of the plans. Per-Johan Josefsson from Sweden is here on a business trip, so PJ, Trena, Andrew P, and I are hoping to all get together for lunch. It will be very cool! We are all planning on wearing our MWH T-shirts. CUL8R! :-) Laura # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kajjia Gorian" Subject: (hats) Cover art Date: 05 Mar 1998 13:29:59 -0800 I noticed the new cover art for the boot CDs. Since I don't have a decent printer, would there be any way for me to get the new cover art for a few of the CDs? Thanks much Aaron Gitlin http://kajjia.home.ml.org http://menwohats.home.ml.org Security, everyone feels better with... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Claude Grégoire" Subject: Re: (hats) Idea for opening act Date: 06 Mar 1998 03:28:05 -0500 jkriens a =E9crit: >=20 > Hi, Hatters, >=20 > The discussion that's been going on about the opening act for the Ivan > fan club show has given me an idea. Here it is. Since there is a MWH > covers CD being put together, and most of the people involved are going > to be at the concert, why not have the various groups (or some subset o= f > them) do their Hats covers as the opening act. I join my voice to those who have not been in favor of this. I think all = the energies on that night should be dedicated to make Ivan's performance wor= k (organisation, recording, taping, enjoying). But I think Francis idea of = a second show is brilliant! Most of you will be in Montreal for more than a= day. So we could have a private party (the day after), with a concert portion = and, why not, a mwh karaoke! Take care Claude # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric W. Soderblom" Subject: (hats) Opening act Date: 06 Mar 1998 00:39:15 -0800 Hey hatters- I have not been paying real attention to this opening act thing and how big of an act we are thinking about, but how about Brian Ferry? Ivan has stated that Roxy Music was one of his inspirations. I don't know, maybe that's to big of an opening act. Also, sorry for those of you who have been waiting for the Site Index to get revamped. It will be another couple of weeks. Later- Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Subject: (hats) Please put on mailing list Date: 04 Mar 1998 17:12:04 -0500 Would like t-shirt info! Joel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Donald Stroud Subject: (hats) Info on "Winnebago Song" Date: 05 Mar 1998 15:36:16 -0800 (PST) I've listened to this several times now. It's very cool, but it sure sounds different from other older MWH stuff. Does anyone know the details behind this song? Where and when was it recorded? Who's making all those weird "ha" and "hiya" sounds? ============================================================================= Don2 dstroud@captaina.Eng.Sun.com 1998: THE YEAR OF GODZILLA [May 20, 1998] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nathan Shireman Subject: (hats) Need CD4 info Date: 06 Mar 1998 13:09:48 -0500 (EST) Hello, Whoever is in charge of CD4 distribution, could you email me. Thanks. Nathan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "EXA Systems Inc." Subject: (hats) Ivan's Private show --- UPDATE Date: 06 Mar 1998 11:48:16 -0800 Hey gang. This is Francis (from the office) PLEASE DO NOT REPLY ON THIS ACCOUNT, reply on JDIVITO334@AOL.COM I finally spoke to Ivan's manager. I have a meeting with him. He is VERY interested about the show. thank you for all the request you sent me. I'll print them and give to Ivan himself. The show will be in JUNE, 1998 in Montreal, Canada. Before I sign anything, I will put the contract public to everyone, so this is a GROUP decision. Ciao Francis P.s. if you want to write me, my E-mail is JDIVITO334@AOL.COM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Claude Grégoire" Subject: Re: (hats) Info on "Winnebago Song" Date: 06 Mar 1998 13:27:33 -0500 Donald Stroud a =E9crit: >=20 > I've listened to this several times now. It's very cool, but it sure > sounds different from other older MWH stuff. >=20 > Does anyone know the details behind this song? Where and when was it > recorded? Who's making all those weird "ha" and "hiya" sounds? You will find answers to that in the History section of the Men Without H= ats FAQ site: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3136/history_mwh.html Take care Claude # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cpisarr1@ic3.ithaca.edu Subject: (hats) leaving Date: 06 Mar 1998 11:57:31 -0500 (EST) I'll be gone from Mar. 6 through Mar. 16. My new e-mail address is Divisio@AOL.Com later Al, e-mail me today before 6 pm to let me know before I go if I can stay. **************************************** ******************************* ALWAYS REMEMBER THESE LINES: *************** "Big Bucks, Big Bucks....Stop." ********** "On a whammy." *************** ******************************* **************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAGENTA Subject: (hats) re: ideas for opening act/ recording formats Date: 06 Mar 1998 11:22:04 -0800 (PST) Howdy Hatters! re: ideas for opening act: i'd have to agree with angie...this would not be one of the best things for all concerned, beingst we're going to have the real McCoys anyhoo....perhaps we could plan something like that for the actual `convention/gathering'...btw: any more info re: that matter? re: recording the show...moose has the right idea...DAT would give longer recording time, plus, if something is jostled accidently *as most of you will be dancing if you want to;)* unlike a CD/CD-R, a DAT will not skip...not that there would be a HUGE risk of this, but it is another valid point/argument for DAT:) still working on my fave albums list, i'll think of one eventually... take care, hatters...i will be leaving somewhat earlier than expected on sunday, so will be back home around 10-ish sun. eve.:) ttys, Charlotte p.s.: re: checking TOX website for info.... HAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHHAHAHHAHHHA!!!!!!!!!!! *roflmfao* BYE! ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334 Subject: (hats) Ivan's private show --- PEOPLE Date: 06 Mar 1998 18:41:07 EST This message is very important. I need to know the exact number of people who will attend the show. Here is the list that I kept from last fall. Could you check if you name is there and let me know for any correction. Don Stroud One definitely (me)... possibly two Chris Bever Txhoedown@aol.com 2 or 1 Dale Plant 2 Keith Walke 2 Laura 2 Treena 2 Christopher Edward Frey 2 or 1 Alain Robillard-Bastien 9 wolfgang 5 Chris Bever 1 Bob Webb 2 Greg Baerg 2 Brad Day 2 John Elzo 2 Steve Reid 2 Angela Tooley 3 Aaron Harewood 1 J.R. Bookwalter 3 (Myke) LORD HASENPFEFFER 2 Bradley N. Hull 2 Danielle Rossi 1 Chris Schumann 1 Matthew Glidden 2 Howard Abraham 2 Donald Stroud 2 Russ Chavez 2 Vince Silvaggio 5 RICK FULLER 4 Dave Mattingly 1 -John 1 Barley 2 Tom Norman 1 Bill Black 1 Simon 2 Dave Krupla 3 Avi Rosenthal 2 Adam J Weitzman 3 Jeff Harding 2 Richard Holdman 2 David Caldwell 1 David King 1 Stan Howe 2 Steve Jackson 2 Senz 2 Francis 9 fehnnik@rmii.com (Fehnnik Fox) 2 Gregory 2 Collin upfield cpisarr1@ic3.ithaca.edu 3 107 Ciao Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334 Subject: Re: (hats) Idea for opening act Date: 06 Mar 1998 18:41:03 EST In a message dated 3/6/98 3:28:48AM, you write: << So we could have a private party (the day after), with a concert portion and, why not, a mwh karaoke! >> I have a big land, I have a swimming pool, I have a good sound system, I have mic, I have keyboards, I have midi., A MEN WITHOUT HATS BEACH PARTY!!!!!!! YYYYYYYYEAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!! Ciao Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nathan Shireman Subject: Re: (hats) Info on "Winnebago Song" Date: 06 Mar 1998 19:11:12 -0500 (EST) Hello Hatters!, Could someone please explain what the "winnebago" song is. I'm sorta out of the loop. thanks. Nathan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nathan Shireman Subject: Re: (hats) re: ideas for opening act/ recording formats Date: 06 Mar 1998 19:13:33 -0500 (EST) On the recording thing, DAT vs. CD... I have always found that one recording is always risky. Why not record on both, and cassette, and VHS HIFI, and yadda yadda yadda. Better to be safe than sorry. Nathan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAGENTA Subject: (hats) nathan/recording procedures/etc. Date: 06 Mar 1998 17:32:46 -0800 (PST) hihi:) nathan; re: your quite valid point re: not putting all our eggs in one basket (for recording the concert)...i would have to agree with you:) i would also concur that the recording/production wizards that be will most likely have the foresight to have more than one source for recording this fete (either another DAT, or possibly a CD-R), although i do not think that a standard cassette recording will be acceptable for most of the users, due to inferior sound quality (in comparision to our more modern recordable counterparts;) a good point, noentheless, eh? ;) ttyl, Charlotte # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BDay0000 Subject: (hats) ideas for opening act Date: 06 Mar 1998 21:43:21 EST So, if the opening act thing doesn't come together, could we make a tape with a contribution from each of our fave artists (other that MWH) for background atmosphere at the show? I think that we all have something to share.... Brad Day Atlanta, GA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334 Subject: Re: (hats) Info on "Winnebago Song" Date: 07 Mar 1998 13:06:18 EST In a message dated 3/6/98 7:14:20PM, you write: << Hello Hatters!, Could someone please explain what the "winnebago" song is. I'm sorta out of the loop. thanks. Nathan >> HEY Nathan I guess Ivan felt asleep on his keyboard. Ciao Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334 Subject: (hats) Ivan's private show --- TICKET Date: 07 Mar 1998 20:14:12 EST Hey hatters, As we discussed last fall, the major part of the profit will go directly to Ivan. When we started talking about this show, the price for ticket was about 100$ each. We are talking now about 30 to 35$ MAXIMUM. I hope this will answer some of your concern. Ciao bambinos and bambinas! Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334 Subject: (hats) Ivan's private show --- MEETING Date: 07 Mar 1998 20:16:35 EST Hi again. Just to let you know that I won't be alone to meet Ivan's manager. Vince Sylvaggio from the list (I hope I spell the name correctly) will be with me. Any questions, arrangement, suggestion you may have, you can leave a message to myself or Vince. Ciao Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike Subject: Re: (hats) re: ideas for opening act/ recording formats Date: 08 Mar 1998 11:49:32 +0100 >On the recording thing, DAT vs. CD... I have always found that one >recording is always risky. Why not record on both, and cassette, and VHS >HIFI, and yadda yadda yadda. Better to be safe than sorry. > >Nathan 2 or 3 DATs is the best option by far... }:-) Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike Subject: Re: (hats) Idea for opening act Date: 08 Mar 1998 11:49:33 +0100 >I have a big land, I have a swimming pool, I have a good sound system, I have >mic, I have keyboards, I have midi., > >A MEN WITHOUT HATS BEACH PARTY!!!!!!! YYYYYYYYEAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!! > >Ciao > >Francis I've booked my flight already - I'll even bring my MIDI system too... }:-) Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TXhoedown Subject: (hats) Survey Date: 08 Mar 1998 09:59:22 EST Top Five Albums: (1) Men Without Hats: "Pop Goes the World" Brilliant concept album, all the songs just belong. It is also a fun album to listen to, I love every song except "On Tuesday", which I usually skip. (2) Nine Inch Nails: "Pretty Hate Machine" The big daddy of modern industrial music. Great lyrics, whole album is about sex. If you have ever been screwed over in a relationship, this album is for you. (3) The Cult: "Electric" Classic Rock in a modern rock sound. Best song on the album is King Contrary Man, all songs rock, even Born to Be Wild cover. (4) Idaho: "Three Sheets to the Wind" As the review says, keep your depressed friends away from this album. Great chill out music. In fact, almost all Idaho music is chill out music. (5) Beastie Boys: "Paul's Boutique" "The music washes over and you're one with the sound..." enough said. Honorable mention: Jump Little Children "Buzz", The Sisters of Mercy "Floodland", Inxs, "The Swing, Erasure, "The Innocents", NWA "Straight Outta Compton", Sarah McLachlan "Fumbling Toward Ectascy", Ministry "Twitch", Cactus World News "Urban Beaches" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: X Subject: Re: (hats) Idea for opening act Date: 08 Mar 1998 10:44:58 -0500 (EST) > Comments?>> > > I have a comment. It sounds like a good idea, but wouldn't it be a little >tacky to open the show with the same songs Ivan is going to play for us? It's >pretty non-traditional to open a concert with your own rendition of the >concert act's music. >I love the idea of the fan compilation CD, but I think that project should be >separate and alone from the private concert. >Any other comments? >Angie I would have to agree- keep the compilation seperate Wolfgang Wolfgang # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: X Subject: Re: (hats) re: ideas for opening act/ recording formats Date: 08 Mar 1998 10:44:59 -0500 (EST) >>On the recording thing, DAT vs. CD... I have always found that one >>recording is always risky. Why not record on both, and cassette, and VHS >>HIFI, and yadda yadda yadda. Better to be safe than sorry. >> >>Nathan >2 or 3 DATs is the best option by far... > >}:-) >Mike Wolfgang writes- From one studio guy to another- MIKE Rules ! I think the hats list should take all technical advice/ feedback from him ... question to mike--- are you coming to the show? - email me direct wolfgang ;) Wolfgang # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: Re: (hats) ideas for opening act Date: 08 Mar 1998 15:58:18 EST Hi, everyone...we're all still tossing around the idea of an opening act. I would like to know what you guys think of a really short (5 to 7 song) opening act, which is free, of course, and very professional, presenting 5 or 7 acoustic versions of songs that have greatly influenced Ivan and the development of MWH music from the beginning. It would be fun, respectful, informative and tasteful, and of course, short so as not to be overbearing. My brother and I have offered to take our equipment there and do this before the feature act. I have played on stage a number of times, working in duos and fronting a band. My brother just finished a tour of France and Holland with his acoustic duo and is now planning on touring the college circuit in the Northeast US. With this arrangement, we would not have to pay a DJ, we would have a live band opening up so it will look professional and not tacky, the selections will be carefully chosen for their influential status and entertainment value, and the whole idea of an opening act will be taken care of. Comments? Also I would like to say I have not authorized or suggested the inclusion of Vince Silvaggio in the private concert contract negotiations. I have not been notified of the place or time of these negotiations and have thus effectively, and unfairly, been blocked out of them. Vince appears on the list once in a while with a suggestion or comment, but as I have been the originator of this whole concept of a private show, I find it unsettling that I am not being allowed to attend these negotiations. I guess you will have to rely on Francis to give you all the information that arises from these meetings. I want to be a fair representative of the desires of the members of the list as a whole, but obviously you will have to rely solely on Francis for that role in the contract-signing. Anyway... Please voice your opinion on an opening act *before* the contract is written with a clause to block out any opening act at all!!! If you want one, we will give it to you but you have to let us know if you want one at all. thanks Angie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nikolai81 Subject: Re: (hats) re: ideas for opening act/ recording formats Date: 08 Mar 1998 16:26:37 EST In a message dated 98-03-06 14:24:30 EST, magenta@trex.org writes: > re: recording the show...moose has the right idea...DAT would give longer > recording time, plus, if something is jostled accidently *as most of you > will be dancing if you want to;)* unlike a CD/CD-R, a DAT will not > skip...not that there would be a HUGE risk of this, but it is another valid > point/argument for DAT:) That's what I meant. That's why I leave the decisions up to the professionals ;) --Nick # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike Subject: Re: (hats) ideas for opening act Date: 08 Mar 1998 21:58:24 +0100 > >Angie you have my vote... }:-) Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334 Subject: (hats) Private show Date: 08 Mar 1998 22:52:13 EST In a message dated 3/8/98 4:01:11PM, you write: << Also I would like to say I have not authorized or suggested the inclusion of Vince Silvaggio in the private concert contract negotiations. I have not been notified of the place or time of these negotiations and have thus effectively, and unfairly, been blocked out of them. Vince appears on the list once in a while with a suggestion or comment, but as I have been the originator of this whole concept of a private show, I find it unsettling that I am not being allowed to attend these negotiations. >> Haaaa!!! Come on Angie. YOU did not authorized or suggested Vince??? This is OUR show to ALL the people. Are you Ivan's manager??? Why do we have to ask you before we take some actions. WE decided to get a private show, I don't want to be the only one here to take care of everything. I need help from Vince, Claude, etc. I think Vince is a very good guy. Please, I don't want to start a war, it supposed to be something to remember, something amazing. Don't worry Angie, If I choosed Vince to come with me, It's only because he is more bilingual than me to speak English with the other guy for Ivan's tour. Thank you for understanding! Ciao Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334 Subject: Re: (hats) ideas for opening act Date: 08 Mar 1998 22:52:15 EST In a message dated 3/8/98 4:01:11PM, you write: << but as I have been the originator of this whole concept of a private show, I find it unsettling that I am not being allowed to attend these negotiations >> YES IT IS YOUR IDEA. But It was only discussions. I just put the acts together! We are all equal in this show Ciao Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) who's going to the Toronto concert? Date: 09 Mar 1998 01:47:25 EST In a message dated 98-03-05 12:53:42 EST, gigarpus@videotron.ca writes: > > > Daniele Rossi a écrit: > > > > Just wondering, who's going to the Toronto Ivan performance? So far, I > > haven't been able to reach Ticketmaster to see how much > > tickets cost and at what time the show starts. And the website said > > absolutely nothing. > > The website. Are you talking about the TOX website? If you are, look more > carefully, everything is there, all the dates, all the news... > > Take care > > Claude *roflmfao* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) ideas for opening act Date: 09 Mar 1998 02:11:46 EST In a message dated 98-03-08 16:01:11 EST, ADTooley@aol.com writes: > > Also I would like to say I have not authorized or suggested the inclusion of > Vince Silvaggio in the private concert contract negotiations. I have not > been > notified of the place or time of these negotiations and have thus > effectively, > and unfairly, been blocked out of them. Vince appears on the list once in a > while with a suggestion or comment, but as I have been the originator of > this > whole concept of a private show, I find it unsettling that I am not being > allowed to attend these negotiations. I guess you will have to rely on > Francis to give you all the information that arises from these meetings. I > want to be a fair representative of the desires of the members of the list > as > a whole, but obviously you will have to rely solely on Francis for that role > in the contract-signing. > Anyway... > Please voice your opinion on an opening act *before* the contract is written > with a clause to block out any opening act at all!!! If you want one, we > will > give it to you but you have to let us know if you want one at all. > > thanks > > Angie > Hey Angie? have you tried to contact Ivan's manager as well...perhaps arrange to have the contract *live* meeting tied in with a live/phone conference, and make arrangements with him to notify you when/where the meeting is to take place, and to give you an oppoturnity to be present courtesy of Ma Bell? this way, you can at least be there in voice, if not in body;) it's as simple as setting up the time, and make sure they have access to a room with a damn good speakerphone......other aspects of business do this all the time...give it a shot, hon;) ttyl, Charlotte # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dolphind@interlog.com Subject: (hats) award shows Date: 09 Mar 1998 10:11:53 -0800 It seems that Ivan lost out to Holly McNarland as best new solo artist in the first ever Canadian Radio Music Awards that were held on Saturday here in Toronto (a private luncheon hosted by Jann Arden). The Juno awards are being held in Vancouver (Jason Priestly hosts) on Sunday, March 22nd, Good Luck Ivan! Did anyone go see Ivan at The Guvernment here in Toronto on Friday Night? He was supposed to come on at 10:45 pm, it was part of the Canadian Music Week Showcases, this one was titled "Dance Music Showcase". I figured the set would pretty much be the same as the one he did when opening for Duran Duran so I didn't make it down. Best of luck at the Juno's Ivan. Kirk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Norman" Subject: Re: (hats) award shows Date: 09 Mar 1998 10:23:44 -0500 > It seems that Ivan lost out to Holly McNarland as best new solo artist > in the first ever Canadian Radio Music Awards that were held on Saturday > here in Toronto (a private luncheon hosted by Jann Arden). > The Juno awards are being held in Vancouver (Jason Priestly hosts) on > Sunday, March 22nd, Good Luck Ivan! Did anyone go see Ivan at The > Guvernment here in Toronto on Friday Night? He was supposed to come on at > 10:45 pm, it was part of the Canadian Music Week Showcases, this one was > titled "Dance Music Showcase". I figured the set would pretty much be the > same as the one he did when opening for Duran Duran so I didn't make it down. > Best of luck at the Juno's Ivan. > > Kirk I actually heard that is was worse in some ways. Friday night, Ivan just had a DAT machine, that was it. So it was IVan's vocals with background music basically. Speaking of which, I have something to throw up in the air with all of you. Would anyone be interested in a CD#8 - Ivan live at Lee's Palace 1997 The reason I am asking is this is an audience recording so it sounds poor. But on the other hand, it is the complete show and beautiful artwork to boot. A couple of our listmembers (who will remain anonymous for now) recorded this for all of us. I have mastered it onto CD for them. The only question is : What do we do with it? It doesn't sound good, but it is a good thing to have, just to see what an IVAN concert sounds like. It is better than the Duran Duran recording cause it is a full 9 tracks. It may be best to make cassette copies of this only, but this is why I am throwing this up in the air for all of you to think about. Any opinions? By the way, Richard Holdman, I will have CDs #6 and #7 to you by next month. :-) Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniele Rossi Subject: (hats) Remix fantasies Date: 09 Mar 1998 14:21:53 -0500 Well, so far noone has mentioned the recent Toronto show. I assume no one went? At the last minute, I wasn't able to go :( Oh well, I'm looking forward to Montreal! A perfect way to start off a summer! On another note, sometimes I think up how some songs can be remixed. How do you think some MWH/Ivan songs can be remixed? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Online Comic Book http://www.interlog.com/~daniele 883 Fan Page...dal Canada? http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3603 Spandau Ballet Unofficial Homepage --coming soon: CHAT! http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/7994 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Mattingly Subject: Re: (hats) ideas for opening act Date: 08 Mar 1998 14:51:09 -0800 Angie says: >I would like to know what you guys think of a really short opening >act, presenting 5 or 7 acoustic versions of songs that have greatly >influenced Ivan and MWH It sounds great to me. I like acoustic music -- the Proclaimers, Ed's Redeeming Qualities, etc. -- and being able to pay homage to MWH's roots sounds like a great way to get the show going. Brian Ferry's "Don't Stop the Dance" and T-Rex's "Get It On" would be great openers. And it is, after all, Angie. She's the one who suggested the private concert anyway, so I think if we went with any of the fan-bands, it should be hers. Dave Mattingly # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vince Silvaggio Subject: (hats) Byrne meeting Date: 09 Mar 1998 19:39:03 -0500 Hey, Fellow Hatters. Just got back home from a meeting with Dave Byrne (Ivan's concert promoter) and Francis. I must say it was a wonderful experience, and that I did not make any decisions on anyone's behalf. I was there because my good friend Francis asked me, and he asked me because he felt he needed some moral support. If it's any consolation to Anyone out there, he did a splendid job, and he didn't really need me there. A lot of stuff was discussed, and Francis will fill you in on all the details. Needless to say, I am not 'authorized' to give you details. One day, I hope to be 'authorized'. Finally, some credos you can live by (for Anyone who might be reading this): * Put your money where your mouth is. Actions speak louder than words. It's not what you suggest, it's what you DO. (Francis is DOING, and the reason he's doing is not for money, nor glory...it's simply to get us all together and enjoy the band we love the most.) * It's not how many times you write to this list that makes you a big MWH fan. It's what you feel inside. It's what you do behind the scenes. Some people like to remain anonymous, others don't. Later, Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TXhoedown Subject: Re: (hats) Byrne meeting Date: 09 Mar 1998 19:40:23 EST I hope now that the concert is seemingly set, the tedious verbal sparring can stop. The "Anyone" comments should have been sent to "Anyone", not the entire list. BTW, just got my CD#4 today, and I have to say I am wondering what all the hype with the Winnebago song is/was. If you really dig this song, please tell me why, I would be interested to hear Your opinions. Txhoedown@aol.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: Re: (hats) Byrne meeting Date: 09 Mar 1998 19:52:08 EST I am very pleased to learn of the efforts put forth by both Francis, and Vince (authorized or not). I would like to hear the details of what is developing regarding our show!!! Give everyone all the details, guys, please!!! I am still openly upset because I was not informed at all of the time or place of the meeting, who was scheduled to attend, what was to be discussed, or anything. Not even a courtesy message. I felt that was a cruel and undeserved injustice. However, I am pleased that the ball is rolling, and we'll all see what happens from here! Angie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: Re: (hats) Byrne meeting Date: 09 Mar 1998 19:56:36 EST In a message dated 98-03-09 19:34:43 EST, you write: << * Put your money where your mouth is. Actions speak louder than words. It's not what you suggest, it's what you DO. (Francis is DOING, and the reason he's doing is not for money, nor glory...it's simply to get us all together and enjoy the band we love the most.) >> How many times have I offered to help with this project --- to travel to Montreal and help make the arrangements? It's hard to DO when nobody gives me any details! Be fair, Vince. Angie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Claude Grégoire" Subject: Re: (hats) Byrne meeting Date: 09 Mar 1998 20:02:09 -0500 TXhoedown a =E9crit: >=20 > BTW, just got my CD#4 today, and I have to say I am wondering what all = the > hype with the Winnebago song is/was. If you really dig this song, plea= se tell > me why, I would be interested to hear Your opinions. I don't think anybody seriously "dig" the Winnebago Song. This piece is essentially a post gig jam, never intended to be released. For me it has = some historic value, that's all. "...The Winnebago Song is a song recorded live in the back of a Winnebago= by Allan McCarthy, Paul Lepage, and Stefan Doroschuk after a concert in Janu= ary of 1983..." (taken from the Men Without Hats FAQ site http://www.geocities.com/Sunset= Strip/Venue/3136/history_mwh.html) Take care Claude # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334 Subject: (hats) Ivan's private show --- UPDATE Date: 09 Mar 1998 21:13:40 EST I'm not sure if my message went through, so just in case, I am sending it again. ------------------------- Hey hatters. My feeling is VERY GOOD. ------------------ First of all, I don't want to offend anybody because I'm organizing this show. I'm talking to Tox Records in behalf of ALL OF YOU, I told the guy twice. I told him it was an idea from Angie, and I just put everythings together to get this show going. I'm considered as the representative of this special show. If someone is agains't that, PLEASE let me know, I don't like people who are not honnest. Second of all, I know that my English is not very good, but FEEL FREE to bug me with thousands of questions if I'm not clear. I don't want to hear any bad comments about Angie, Vince or me for the rest of the year. If you don't want me to organize this show, PLEASE tell me and I will quit RIGHT AWAY! I don't have time to loose. I have a daughter who has problems with her eyes, and another one who is going on surgery in a few days. Peace to everyone of you. ----------------------- ====================== THE SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!! ====================== I received a call today from Dave Byrne, he's the one who take care of Ivan's tour all accross Canada. He told me "meet me at 5:30, I'm very busy the rest of the week" So we started the conversation by telling him that this show is MADE FOR FAN ONLY. Mr. Byrne confirmed us that it will be a PRIVATE SHOW. He was surprise when I told him "we don't want to make profit of it". Normally, people asks for a percentage. I swear on my children's head, this is not my case. I told him that every profits has to go to Ivan directly (and brothers if it's the case). We talked the possibilities to get Ivan, Stefan, Collin and the Spice girls. He told me to forget about the Spice girls.... OK OK just kidding. He told me he's gonna ask Ivan directly. May be it will cost more but HOW MUCH!?!? I don't know, I will know later this week. We also talked about getting this show on tape. For the one who will attend the show but also for you who can't come. That is more difficult, but I'm gonna push very hard. I told him about the bootlegs (without naming any names). So, due to this special situation, he has to ask again Ivan's directly. THE DATE, probably Saturday June 27th, not before. it could be later if you prefer. This date is perfect for the people who are coming to Montreal, This is the Jazz festival, there is A LOT OF THINGS to do at this time of the year!!!! Also, he needs a deposit of 3,500$. I'll have to use my economy for that, I COUNT ON YOU, don't let me down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We have to decide the place (somewhere very cosy with tables, beer, and very descent). Somewhere cheap, but respectable. Claude, if you have any suggestions, Leave me a message. We will have posters and T-shirts available (to people who want to buy them). Ivan will be available for chating and autograph after the show. Finally, I will get all the answers later this week. =========== CONCLUSION =========== In case I repeat myself, this show is MADE FOR FAN. It has to be SOMETHING TO REMEMBER, I don't want anymore pressure from anyone who is not happy. Please, I'm working hard to get this show going. Y O U W O N ' T B E D I S A P O I N T E D,,,,,,,,, I PROMISE!!!!!! Ciao!!!! Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) CD #8 Date: 09 Mar 1998 22:41:27 -0500 (EST) Tom, I replied directly but the message bounced back to me for some reason. I've been writing to the person who taped the Ivan and Duran Duran shows and have already told him that I'm definitely interested in having a copy of the Ivan show regardless of its quality or lack thereof. Especially if it's now on CD. Send one my way pleases! OOPS/ * bad text editor! * Send one my way please! I also received CD #4 today! Superb cover art, Richard! Great remix, Mike - even though I'm tired of hearing "Moonbeam" remixed 100 different ways, I made certain not to let that interfere with my concentration on your effort and techniques. As for the concert itself, I found it to be a bit lacking in depth and "punch" compared to the other two concerts I've grown accustomed to hearing again and again. Still it's great to have "Mothers Opinion" done live. What was the original air date of that particular broadcast? As for "Winnebago Song", I like it. It does go on and on and on but it's also a lot like a (much shorter) song I recorded with my friend, Paul, back in '85 when we were operating as "Pollen Mic". That song is called "Wrought Iron Two-Litre Bottle" and will be included in the first and final official release of the best material we created back then as soon as Paul can find the time away from his day-job to assemble the master CD. If I were to use "Winnebago Song" as incidental music to accompany a homemade silent video, whose permission should I seek? Or does it even matter as long as I give proper credit to its "composers" at the end just to be proper and nice? Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334 Subject: (hats) Le party de Ivan Date: 09 Mar 1998 23:12:25 EST We have to write in French sometime..... Can you understand??? Salut la gang de chapeaux! On devrait =E9crire en fran=E7ais quelques fois, ca ferait changement. J= uste pour=0Afaire sacr=E9 les Am=E9ricains, hehehe. Alors Claude, que penses-tu du Cabaret "juste pour rire" ??? Il y a beauc= oup=0Ade spectacles la bas de groupe alternatifs. Une belle petite salle= pour 225=0Apersonnes. Salut =E0 tous! Francis (la morue qui voltige de Laval)=0A # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wiggz Subject: (hats) CDs Date: 10 Mar 1998 11:00:44 GMT Can someone send me details as to where I can get ( and whats on ) the MWH CDs ( the unofficial ones ,that are circulating about. Many thanx , Seizure, WIGGZ. " Bright Light Bright Light "=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Norman" Subject: Re: (hats) CD #8 Date: 10 Mar 1998 06:45:16 -0500 > I've been writing to the person who taped the Ivan and Duran Duran shows > and have already told him that I'm definitely interested in having a copy > of the Ivan show regardless of its quality or lack thereof. > Especially if it's now on CD. Send one my way pleases! > OOPS/ * bad text editor! * Send one my way please! No! This is not even the same concert. The Duran Duran show was only like 5 songs. This is an IVAN show -- 9 songs! > I also received CD #4 today! Superb cover art, Richard! Great remix, > Mike - even though I'm tired of hearing "Moonbeam" remixed 100 different > ways, I made certain not to let that interfere with my concentration > on your effort and techniques. > > As for the concert itself, I found it to be a bit lacking in depth > and "punch" compared to the other two concerts I've grown accustomed > to hearing again and again. Still it's great to have "Mothers Opinion" > done live. What was the original air date of that particular broadcast? It is during the 1984 , Where Do The Boys Go Tour. > > As for "Winnebago Song", I like it. It does go on and on and on but it's > also a lot like a (much shorter) song I recorded with my friend, Paul, > back in '85 when we were operating as "Pollen Mic". That song is called > "Wrought Iron Two-Litre Bottle" and will be included in the first and > final official release of the best material we created back then as soon > as Paul can find the time away from his day-job to assemble the master CD. > > If I were to use "Winnebago Song" as incidental music to accompany a > homemade silent video, whose permission should I seek? Or does it even > matter as long as I give proper credit to its "composers" at the end > just to be proper and nice? > > Myke Actually, CDs #6 and #7 are from the same exact 1984 Tour. In fact, I think the BBC album is the last 6 songs of the songlist. Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Ivan Show On Tape Date: 10 Mar 1998 09:40:36 -0500 (EST) Tom, as I understand it, the person who taped Duran Duran also taped the Ivan performance before it. Are we now talking about two different Ivan concert tapes from the current "tour" or just one? Re: the original air date of the BBC show I understand that it is from the 1984 tour, but when was the thing actually aired as part of the BBC Rock Hour? Whoever has the actual LP should have that info. It's usually printed on the label. Also, whose permission should I seek to use "Winnebago Song" as the background music for a homemade, otherwise silent video? Nobody's? I would certainly give credit where credit is due but since itwas never intended for release, is any permission necessary? Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nathan Shireman Subject: Re: (hats) Byrne meeting Date: 10 Mar 1998 10:37:12 -0500 (EST) Fellow Hatters, I sense mass amounts of Frustration being tossed back and forth between certain parties. I have to say, it is discouraging to me to see this. We are all fans of the greatest band to ever be... and that puts us in a class of people that is extroidinary. Let's rise above all this who did and did not do stuff, and let's all just get ready for an superb show. There, I put in my 2cents worth. Anyone else care to comment. Hoping that we all can just get along, Nathan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniele Rossi Subject: (hats) Re: (les chapeaux) Le party de Ivan Date: 10 Mar 1998 12:02:34 -0500 >We have to write in French sometime..... Can you understand??? >------------------------------------------ It's a good thing I took French in high school and first year University. >Salut la gang de chapeaux! > >On devrait =E9crire en fran=E7ais quelques fois, ca ferait changement. = Juste pour > faire sacr=E9 les Am=E9ricains, hehehe. Unfortunatley, I forgot most of it. >Alors Claude, que penses-tu du Cabaret "juste pour rire" ??? Il y a= beaucoup > de spectacles la bas de groupe alternatifs. Une belle petite salle pour= 225 > personnes. Hm...something about a venue Francis found that can fit this group nicely. Either that or he's asking claude if he bought tickets to the "Just For Laughs" festival :) I'm kidding of course. As for the pre-music for Ivan's show....how about playing ABBA? Abba is one of his influences (have you heard "The Spell" lately??). -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=20 Online Comic Book =20 http://www.interlog.com/~daniele 883 Fan Page...dal Canada? http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3603 Spandau Ballet Unofficial Homepage --coming soon: CHAT! http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/7994 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rush" Subject: (hats) Private show/UPDATE Date: 10 Mar 1998 00:38:33 -0600 I don't know about you guys, but if Francis needs cash now for the deposit, I'm in for at least a hundo, we only need thirty five others and we're set. Just a thought, so Francis, if you need it, let us know. Thoughts anyone??? Anyone else want to help get the ball rolling?? Cordially, Rush "If you saw Atlas, the giant who holds the world on his shoulders, if you saw that he stood, blood running down his chest, his knees buckling, his arms trembling but still trying to hold the world aloft with the last of this strength, and the greater his effort, the heavier the world bore down on his shoulders--what would you tell him to do?" "I... don't know. What... could he do? What would you tell him?" "To shrug." --Ayn Rand Also, he needs a deposit of 3,500$. I'll have to use my economy for that, I COUNT ON YOU, don't let me down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rush" Subject: Re: (hats) Le party de Ivan Date: 10 Mar 1998 00:40:48 -0600 I understand the the French language is tearing that province apart. Hello, 52 state!!!! Cordially, Rush "If you saw Atlas, the giant who holds the world on his shoulders, if you saw that he stood, blood running down his chest, his knees buckling, his arms trembling but still trying to hold the world aloft with the last of this strength, and the greater his effort, the heavier the world bore down on his shoulders--what would you tell him to do?" "I... don't know. What... could he do? What would you tell him?" "To shrug." --Ayn Rand We have to write in French sometime..... Can you understand??? Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rush" Subject: Re: (hats) Byrne meeting Date: 10 Mar 1998 09:54:49 -0600 Maybe the opening act could be a cat fight. You know, plenty of petty scuffling and ego hurting, mixed in with come catty, girlie, commentary, and some hair-pulling and pinching to go along. Cain't we all just get along? >I sense mass amounts of Frustration being tossed back and forth between >certain parties. I have to say, it is discouraging to me to see this. We >are all fans of the greatest band to ever be... and that puts us in a >class of people that is extroidinary. Let's rise above all this who did >and did not do stuff, and let's all just get ready for an superb show. Cordially, Rush "If you saw Atlas, the giant who holds the world on his shoulders, if you saw that he stood, blood running down his chest, his knees buckling, his arms trembling but still trying to hold the world aloft with the last of this strength, and the greater his effort, the heavier the world bore down on his shoulders--what would you tell him to do?" "I... don't know. What... could he do? What would you tell him?" "To shrug." --Ayn Rand # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alain Robillard-Bastien" Subject: (hats) Les chapeaux Date: 10 Mar 1998 12:23:18 -0500 > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_2972377399_649896_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Well, good translation! It is about a venue who was really related to the Just for laughs festival -a museum in fact-, where a lot af alternative music shows take place now. It is a very clean, very suitable place, downtown Montreal, near all the main attractions including the Jazz Fest. really like that solution! Al. > ---------- > >From: Daniele Rossi > >To: hats@xmission.com > >Subject: (hats) Re: (les chapeaux) Le party de Ivan > >Date: Mard 10 mars 1998 12:02 PM > > > > > > >>We have to write in French sometime..... Can you understand??? > >>------------------------------------------ > > > >It's a good thing I took French in high school and first year University. > > > > > >>Salut la gang de chapeaux! > >> > >>On devrait =E9crire en fran=E7ais quelques fois, ca ferait changement. Juste > pour > >> faire sacr=E9 les Am=E9ricains, hehehe. > > > >Unfortunatley, I forgot most of it. > > > > > >>Alors Claude, que penses-tu du Cabaret "juste pour rire" ??? Il y a > beaucoup > >> de spectacles la bas de groupe alternatifs. Une belle petite salle pour > 225 > >> personnes. > > > >Hm...something about a venue Francis found that can fit this group nicely. > >Either that or he's asking claude if he bought tickets to the "Just For > >Laughs" festival :) I'm kidding of course. > > --MS_Mac_OE_2972377399_649896_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Les chapeaux Well, good translation! It is about a venue who was real= ly related to the
Just for laughs festival -a museum in fact-, where a lot af alternative
music shows take place now. It is a very clean, very suitable place,
downtown Montreal, near all the main attractions including the Jazz Fest. =
really like that solution!

Al.
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> >From: Daniele Rossi <daniele@interlog.= com>
> >To: hats@xmission.com
> >Subject: (hats) Re: (les chapeaux) Le party de Ivan
> >Date: Mard 10 mars 1998 12:02 PM
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> >>We have to write in French sometime..... Can you understand?= ??
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> >Either that or he's asking claude if he bought tickets to the &quo= t;Just For
> >Laughs" festival :) I'm kidding of course.
> > --MS_Mac_OE_2972377399_649896_MIME_Part-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Schumann Subject: (hats) The upcoming event. What else? Date: 10 Mar 1998 11:51:07 -0600 (CST) Writing as someone who is primarily a lurker on this list, I, for one, am very grateful to Francis, Angie and all the others who are making the Ivan Concert for Fans a real event. I look forward to that trip. I am sorry to read of the hurt feelings, though. They are best avoided by clear and frequent communication. Also, it's best to clear them up off the list. I also want to thank Laura for her work on the shirts and all the folks who made the fan CD's. (Even though I have only discs 1-3 so far.) From experience, I know what kind of effort goes into something like that. I hope I speak for a large portion of those of us who read the list and lurk and who take comfort in knowing that there are other fans out there like us who keep this piece of our culture alive. Chris Schumann # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fspin@HRZ.Uni-Bielefeld.DE Subject: (hats) BBC rock hour #442 Date: 10 Mar 1998 20:35:02 +0100 (MET) >I understand that it is from the 1984 tour, but when was the thing >actually aired as part of the BBC Rock Hour? Whoever has the actual >LP should have that info. It's usually printed on the label. I have a copy of the (original) vinyl release. Its catalogue no. is BBC ROCK HOUR #442 and it has A FLOCK OF SAEGULLS on the other side (nice concert by the way). The accompanying sheet says: LW(London Wavelength)'s Broadcast Week Of October 16, 1983 Just a typo or was there some time-travel involved when the concert was recorded during the 1984 tour? Cheers, Frank M. Spinath # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Per-Johan Josefsson Subject: Re: (hats) BBC rock hour #442 Date: 10 Mar 1998 15:08:46 -0500 > I have a copy of the (original) vinyl release. Its catalogue no. is BBC > ROCK HOUR #442 and it has A FLOCK OF SAEGULLS on the other side (nice > concert by the way). The accompanying sheet says: Anyone have the track listing for this record including the A FLOCK OF SAEGULLS part? Are the tracklistings of the fanclub (this list) CDs available in some of the MWH discographies? I cant find any. PJ. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) Byrne meeting Date: 10 Mar 1998 17:19:59 EST In a message dated 98-03-10 12:18:19 EST, rush3@email.msn.com writes: > > Maybe the opening act could be a cat fight. You know, plenty of petty > scuffling and ego hurting, mixed in with come catty, girlie, commentary, and > some hair-pulling and pinching to go along. Cain't we all just get along? > > >I sense mass amounts of Frustration being tossed back and forth between > >certain parties. I have to say, it is discouraging to me to see this. We > >are all fans of the greatest band to ever be... and that puts us in a > >class of people that is extroidinary. Let's rise above all this who did > >and did not do stuff, and let's all just get ready for an superb show. > > i got one better, Rush...kickboxing! *evil grin* also cordially, Charlotte p.s.: i could always resubmit excerpts from 'This L'il Indian', again! ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angela Tooley" Subject: (hats) The Show Date: 10 Mar 1998 13:46:34 PST Hi, just in case you guys were not aware, the possibility of an opening act is no longer a possibility. I, for one, am a little disappointed. But Francis explained to me that Ivan's tour manager said an opening act would "ruin the show" or something like that. I'll get the exact quote later. He said Ivan never has an opening act. (Which makes sense because Ivan often *is* opening act.) But at our show, he will be Headlining of course, and if we can get the rest of the brothers, it will be a full-fledged Men Without Hats concert!!! I'm really glad things are coming together and the dream is becoming a reality! The thing *I* want is to meet all of you in person finally! Angie :-) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Hull Subject: (hats) Deposit for Private Show Date: 10 Mar 1998 19:14:34 -0500 First of all - thank you to Francis, Angie, Vince, .... anyone and everyone who has had anything to do with the private show in any way shape or form!! Second - You can count me in for $100+ to help get the deposit together for the show. This is going to be AMAZING!!! I can't wait..... C'mon everyone...let's make sure IVAN and his manager know we're willing to put our money where our mouths are, and get the financial support for this (and Francis so he doesn't need to empty his bank account!) well in advance. Brad Brad Hull bhull@uoguelph.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vince Silvaggio Subject: (hats) Meeting recollections Date: 10 Mar 1998 19:28:37 -0500 Hey, fellow Hatters. Now that Francis wrote in with the details of the meeting, here is what I recall: *As Angie has already alluded to, Dave Byrne did not like the idea of an opening act. He said it was too risky for Ivan to have to follow a 'potentially amateurish opening'. Of all the ideas Francis gave him, he was the most adamant about this one. Sorry folks. *Dave Byrne (rightfully) viewed the concert as a 'musical book signing', which is to say because of the special and rare circumstances of the concert, it would have to be a must to get Ivan (and possibly brothers) to mingle with us (and sign a carload of stuff!). Does anybody out there mind this?? *My sense is that the videotape/CD idea might be a tough sell. However, something tells me we'll be able to videotape only. *The brothers' participation: Dave Byrne said that he will try to pitch this to Ivan. In the very least, he suggested that the brothers show up simply to mingle with us. *Venue: It's really our choice, unless Ivan and company don't particularly like a certain venue for sound reasons (no pun intended). *Francis made it crystal clear that we were not there to make money, but to organize a very special event in honour of MWH and, of course, Ivan. The fact that list-members would finally get to meet each other makes this concert all that much more exciting and special. Dave Byrne acknowledged this sentiment. *Money issues: Francis has already discussed this with you. It's now important to keep the promises we made a few months ago. *David Byrne liked the whole idea, and found everything 'kosher'. He described it as very good for Ivan and his career. (You know, something they can put on a bio and such.) Publicity-wise, Dave Byrne did not wish to lump this special show with the regular tour. As such, there will be little publicity as far as attracting Ivan's other fans are concerned. He wants the show to remain a private affair. This does not mean that there absolutely will not be publicity during the show (for articles and such). *Shirts will most probable be sold, but Dave Byrne does not want to commercialize the whole affair. The sale of shirts will be more discreet than at usual concert affairs. That's all I can remember for now. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to contact Francis and/or Angie and they'll be more than happy to answer. Burying the hatchet for good, Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Claude Grégoire" Subject: (hats) the old one remembers Date: 10 Mar 1998 19:46:33 -0500 Happy birthday to Ian Ingham from all his fellow hatters! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) October 16, 1983 Date: 10 Mar 1998 14:46:45 -0500 (EST) Whoa! Thanks Frank! That puts this whole deal in a new light. Are we really sure that it's from the '84 tour now? Do you find any other clues as to whether or not it could have been a typo? 1983 actually would have been much more appropriate for A Flock Of Seagulls and Men Without Hats both than 1984. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: (hats) Booking your trips Date: 10 Mar 1998 21:30:20 EST Hi, I just want everybody to know a few things before you all run to your travel agents. First of all, no contract has been signed yet, so wait until one is. From what we have learned, it appears that some of the suggestions for the show have to clear Ivan's desk with the seal of approval, then a contract will be drawn up. I have instructed Francis to e-mail the list with the contract terms. If you want it word-for-word, we can do that. I asked him to do that for me, anyway. Francis will sign it as the representative of the Hats list when it clears everyone's approval. Second, since the concert will take place on the weekend of Montreal's annual Jazz Festival, you will need to book your rooms as far in advance as you possibly can. I suggest going to AAA or CAA and asking for the free travel book for Quebec, where the local lodgings and their prices are listed. You can contact the Montreal Department of Tourism also, if you have not already done so. I have asked my friend Al to write a brief message to the list describing the Jazz Festival for those of you who are not familiar with it. With that going on, PLUS our private show, it will make for a really memorable weekend!!! OK, more news and info when it becomes available! Angie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric W. Soderblom" Subject: (hats) Booking trips Date: 10 Mar 1998 20:09:03 -0800 Hatters- ---Booking trips to Montreal--- Most of you probably already know about the on-line booking of flights, hotels, etc. The two ones I have used are Expedia and Travelocity. Both use the same system (Sabre) that travel agents use and work great. I personally use Travelocity whenever possible because Expedia is powered by Microsoft and god know they already have enough $$$. I suggest checking them out for your Montreal plans. -Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) The Show Date: 10 Mar 1998 23:10:53 EST In a message dated 98-03-10 18:32:39 EST, adtooley@hotmail.com writes: > > Hi, just in case you guys were not aware, the possibility of an opening > act is no longer a possibility. I, for one, am a little disappointed. > But Francis explained to me that Ivan's tour manager said an opening act > would "ruin the show" or something like that. I'll get the exact quote > later. He said Ivan never has an opening act. (Which makes sense > because Ivan often *is* opening act.) But at our show, he will be > Headlining of course, and if we can get the rest of the brothers, it > will be a full-fledged Men Without Hats concert!!! > I'm really glad things are coming together and the dream is becoming a > reality! The thing *I* want is to meet all of you in person finally! > Angie :-) > I for one am going to be there with bells on, hon! ;) ttyl, Charlotte # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334 Subject: (hats) Ivan's private show --- No news,,....good news. Date: 10 Mar 1998 23:57:52 EST Hey gang! No news yet, no messages on my vocal mailbox. Angie was talking about a contract. There is no "official" contract. Only for the deposit. As soon as I know the exact amount, I'm gonna tell you. I have to find the place, (not expensive), to get my answer, etc. After that, I will write a public message with all the expense and the final amount per people. Before you do anything, wait the final confirmation from me. Right now, the ball is in Ivan's side. I hope to have any news before friday. In the meantime, should you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rush" Subject: Re: (hats) Meeting recollections Date: 10 Mar 1998 19:36:51 -0600 Just as long as it isn't in Angie's brain. Thank you, for the most comprehensive update yet, and thanks for your effort. As far as the CD goes, the gods have smiled on this before, don't rule anything out yet... Cordially, Rush "If you saw Atlas, the giant who holds the world on his shoulders, if you saw that he stood, blood running down his chest, his knees buckling, his arms trembling but still trying to hold the world aloft with the last of this strength, and the greater his effort, the heavier the world bore down on his shoulders--what would you tell him to do?" "I... don't know. What... could he do? What would you tell him?" "To shrug." --Ayn Rand Burying the hatchet for good, Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (hats) The Show Date: 10 Mar 1998 22:23:34 -0800 (PST) Since that leaves us with no opening act, I guess we'll have to have a DJ... and I'll volunteer to do it- I've DJed for 15 years on college radio and in clubs. Of course it all depends on the exact date and how much plane tickets from California will be...but I'm hoping I will be able to attend. dave On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Angela Tooley wrote: > > Hi, just in case you guys were not aware, the possibility of an opening > act is no longer a possibility. I, for one, am a little disappointed. > But Francis explained to me that Ivan's tour manager said an opening act > would "ruin the show" or something like that. I'll get the exact quote > later. He said Ivan never has an opening act. (Which makes sense > because Ivan often *is* opening act.) But at our show, he will be > Headlining of course, and if we can get the rest of the brothers, it > will be a full-fledged Men Without Hats concert!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric W. Soderblom" Subject: (hats) MWH Site Index Date: 11 Mar 1998 00:04:08 -0800 Hatters- My site that I have been promising an overhaul of, is overhauled. There are still problems that will be fixed in the next week, but I wanted to get it up ASAP. Feel free to check it out at http://home.earthlink.net/~soderblom. -Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TXhoedown Subject: (hats) Re: Booking Trips Date: 11 Mar 1998 07:51:04 EST Has anyone from the southeast thought about driving to the concert. I would be willing to carpool with several people, if anyonehad plans of driving. I am currently residing in Hootieville (Columbia), South Carolina, but can drive anywhere to meet up with people. I am going to be out of town for several days, but if this sounds like a decent idea, please let me know. Thanks. TXhoedown@aol.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" Subject: Re: (hats) Re: Booking Trips Date: 11 Mar 1998 09:12:50 +0000 Hi Hatters! TXhoedown said . . . > Has anyone from the southeast thought about driving to the concert? Baby, let me tell you that is one *LOOONG* road trip! When Trena and I did it last summer for the Rock Sans Frontieres concert, it was 18 hours from Raleigh, NC! I'm getting too old to try that again! If people do want to split the driving, though, by the time June rolls around, I may have forgotten the horrors of driving through Washington DC at one o'clock in the morning and might be convinced to once again gas up the Menwithouthats Party Van (a Mazda MPV, for those of you who missed the joke last year). And this area actually is a pretty good mustering point for NC, TN, SC, and GA. Oh, god, I think I am talking myself into doing this again. Trena, stop me!!!!! See everyone soon!!!! :-) Laura # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: Re: (hats) Meeting recollections Date: 11 Mar 1998 10:44:17 EST In a message dated 98-03-11 00:16:54 EST, you write: << Just as long as it isn't in Angie's brain. >> What's up with this? angie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" Subject: Re: (hats) Meeting recollections Date: 11 Mar 1998 11:12:36 +0000 Hi Hatters! Rush said > << Just as long as it isn't in Angie's brain. >> then Angie asked > What's up with this? Vince spoke of burying the hatchet . . . Steve's joke was really "Just as long as [the hatchet isn't buried] in Angie's brain." It took me a minute to figure it out, too - here's an instance when a little bit *more* of the original post might have been included. :-) :-) Laura,glad we can all just get along. :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nathan Shireman Subject: (hats) I am glad!!! Date: 11 Mar 1998 11:19:27 -0500 (EST) Hello to all, I'm glad to see that all is well in the happy world of MWH land. I had my doubts about many things, but all the volitle situations have now righted themselves, and it seems that we have ourselves a concert! Yippee! Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend, as I'm sure a few of you out there share in my woe... but I am counting on those who do attend to bring back wonderful stories and a great recording/video documentation. I had a thought. What if while all of you were gathered in one location, you got a video clip of each member saying a few things. This way, most of the hat list members will have a picture to accompany an email address. I'd love to see who I'm writing to! All of us that can't attend should send in a self recorded videotape, and we could edit it all together... and make one spanking cool collection. Any thoughts on this? Nathan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shriekman Subject: (hats) Actual Date Date: 11 Mar 1998 11:45:57 EST Hey all; I see a lot of notes about booking trips, but I didn't see an actual date mentioned (though it is supposedly the same weekend as a Jazz Festival) -- Maybe I just missed it in the many emails. Anyway, can someone let me know what the proposed date is? Thanks! (and looking forward to the trip) Greg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Claude Grégoire" Subject: Re: (hats) Re: Booking Trips Date: 11 Mar 1998 11:58:43 -0500 TXhoedown a =E9crit: >=20 > Has anyone from the southeast thought about driving to the concert. I = would > be willing to carpool with several people, if anyonehad plans of drivin= g. I > am currently residing in Hootieville (Columbia), South Carolina, but ca= n drive > anywhere to meet up with people. I am going to be out of town for seve= ral > days, but if this sounds like a decent idea, please let me know. Thank= s. If you like the idea, I could put a page on the web, listing all people attending the concert, with how and when they will be arriving, from wher= e, where and how long they will be staying and their e-mail address. This wa= y people may more efficiently make arrangements for this great event (shoul= d I say historical). Take care all Claude # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Claude Grégoire" Subject: Re: (hats) I am glad!!! Date: 11 Mar 1998 12:31:01 -0500 Nathan Shireman a =E9crit: >=20 > What if while all of you were gathered in one location, > you got a video clip of each member saying a few things. This way, mos= t > of the hat list members will have a picture to accompany an email addre= ss. > I'd love to see who I'm writing to! All of us that can't attend shoul= d > send in a self recorded videotape, and we could edit it all together... > and make one spanking cool collection. Any thoughts on this? For a long time now I started something similar to that but simpler. It i= s called the who's who list. (URL: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3136/whoswho_mwh.html ) I aske= d people to send me a photo and I put it on the list (in a cool ID card). T= he response has been very quite. The strange thing is, I started a similar t= hing on two other lists (Gentle Giant and Marillion) and the reaction is overwhelming. Maybe if you set a good example by sending in your picture, other hatters will follow... wishfully thinking Claude # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fspin@post.uni-bielefeld.de Subject: (hats) 1983 or 1984? Date: 11 Mar 1998 08:32:43 +0100 (MET) Dear fellow hatters, I'll try to find out more about the 1983/1984 mystery... ;) Because I'm currently in my office I can't look up the A Flock Of Seagulls track-listing, but will mail it soon. All the best, Frank # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alain Robillard-Bastien" Subject: (hats) Jazz Fest Date: 11 Mar 1998 12:40:46 -0500 FYI: Please note that the Montreal Jazz Festival will be held July 1-July 12. Al. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike Subject: Re: (hats) The Show Date: 11 Mar 1998 17:50:51 +0100 >Of course it all depends on the exact date and how much plane tickets >from California will be...but I'm hoping I will be able to attend. > >dave bet the ticket costs less than from London! }:-) Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicolas Roux Subject: Re: (hats) Jazz Fest Date: 11 Mar 1998 18:16:02 +0000 Hello guys and Alain! For those people coming over, some info: Montreal Jazz Festival http://www.montrealjazzfest.com/index2.html Montreal http://www.tourisme-montreal.org/ Foufounes Electriques http://www.foufounes.com/ Orchestre Symphonique de Montreal http://www.osm.ca/html/home.html Palais des congr=E8s de Montr=E9al http://www.congresmtl.com/calendr.html Parc des =CEles de Montr=E9al=20 http://www.pdi-montreal.com/Francais/Evenements/Evenements.html Parc olympique http://www.rio.gouv.qc.ca/fra/sub2f.htm Place Bonaventure http://www.infobonaventure.com/CGI/expo.cgi?FRANCAIS Place des arts http://www.pda.qc.ca/fr.publ.cale.html Soci=E9t=E9 du Vieux-Port de Montr=E9al Inc. http://www.svpm.ca/activites=20 Beer http://www.unibroue.com/ http://www.molson.com/fcgi-bin/bestguml/home/main Enjoy! / Nicolas Roux Alain Robillard-Bastien wrote: >=20 > FYI: >=20 > Please note that the Montreal Jazz Festival will be held July 1-July 1= 2. >=20 > Al. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike Subject: (hats) Recording the gig... Date: 11 Mar 1998 17:50:53 +0100 >*My sense is that the videotape/CD idea might be a tough sell. However, >something tells me we'll be able to videotape only. for their part all they'd have to do is to plug a DAT machine into the spare stereo outputs of the mixing desk - thats all! And we've shown that our fan CD efforts are far better than some of the amateurish ones available for other bands... I mean, we've got more gear than Ivan has himself!!! }:-) Mike PS but what do I know... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniele Rossi Subject: (hats) Montreal lodging info Date: 11 Mar 1998 13:53:35 -0500 Hi everyone, welcome aboard flight 13....I mean, I just called Quebec Tourism (1-800-363-7777) and asked for a book about Montreal and it's attractions and hotels/lodges/etc with prices for 1998. They told me the book isn't out yet but it will be available for mid April and that I should receive it by the end of April. For those of you in the US, I don't think that 800 number will work. I think 1-514-555-1212 may work (I don't know if it will). It is like a 411 for 800 numbers. Ask for Quebec Tourism. The very kind lady on the phone (with a beautiful accent!) also gave me the information line for the Montreal Jazz Festival; 1-888-515-0515. Bye all! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Online Comic Book http://www.interlog.com/~daniele 883 Fan Page...dal Canada? http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3603 Spandau Ballet Unofficial Homepage --coming soon: CHAT! http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/7994 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike Subject: Re: (hats) Re: Booking Trips Date: 11 Mar 1998 20:09:27 +0100 >Baby, let me tell you that is one *LOOONG* road trip! When Trena and >I did it last summer for the Rock Sans Frontieres concert, it was 18 >hours from Raleigh, NC! I'm getting too old to try that again! > >If people do want to split the driving, though, by the time June >rolls around, I may have forgotten the horrors of driving through >Washington DC at one o'clock in the morning and might be convinced to >once again gas up the Menwithouthats Party Van (a Mazda MPV, for >those of you who missed the joke last year). And this area actually >is a pretty good mustering point for NC, TN, SC, and GA. Oh, god, I >think I am talking myself into doing this again. Trena, stop me!!!!! > >See everyone soon!!!! > >:-) Laura you could pick me up from the airport!! }:-) Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric W. Soderblom" Subject: (hats) Montreal (surprise) Date: 11 Mar 1998 12:45:34 -0800 Hey- Does anyone know the approx. time from NYC to Montreal? Via car. -Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" Subject: Re: (hats) Montreal (surprise) Date: 11 Mar 1998 15:51:21 +0000 Hi Eric! > Does anyone know the approx. time from NYC to Montreal? Via car. I think it was about 5 1/2 hours. A mere drop in the bucket, relatively speaking! ;-) :-) Laura # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) The Show Date: 11 Mar 1998 16:18:51 EST hey there! as a fellow cali-head, i can safely say that airfare for us is probably going to be $650-750 (maybe more by the time of this writing:/)...which is why i'm antsy for a date, as the closer we book, the more it shall cost....this is not a rip on YOU, Francis; ) i know you are doing all you can:) i'll keep my eyes peeled, nonetheless:) ttyl, Charlotte # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Norman" Subject: Re: (hats) Montreal (surprise) Date: 11 Mar 1998 18:40:27 -0500 > Hey- > Does anyone know the approx. time from NYC to Montreal? Via car. > -Eric Dude, Listen to Freeways. That song is about driving from Montreal to New York in I-87. IT is 6:00, It is 11:00. Its a 5 hour drive exactly. Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334 Subject: (hats) Private show --- DATE Date: 11 Mar 1998 20:18:56 EST Hey! The date that came in my ming after reading all your messages was the last Saturday of June, means 27th. If Ivan is not available, it could be the week after. We don't talk about the deposit now, we don't talk about booking your vacation, we just talk about getting this show started properly with our requests. As soon as I have a confirmation of our requests, I'll write you a public message. Ciao Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Ivan Duran Tapes Date: 11 Mar 1998 08:43:15 -0500 (EST) Tom, I will have to go back thru my email and find my source. More on that later. I was told though, that the Ivan tape didn't sound as good as the Duran tape for some reason. If I recall correctly, you said in your original post about this that the Duran tape didn't sound as good as the Ivan tape. I'm still not certain if we're talking about two pairs of tapes or the same one. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Farnum Subject: (hats) booking trips(shameless promotion) Date: 12 Mar 1998 07:35:02 -0500 this may somewhat shameless promotion and probably against list rules but since some of you are going to need to fly to montreal and all of you might not have a travel agent, and my mother just happens to be one.... Call her at farnum and christ(different from jesus) at 18003662048 between 9am and 5pm eastern time they will be glad to have your business and we'll be keeping it all in the family. Thanks Whit # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Trena Brantley" Subject: Re: (hats) Re: Booking Trips Date: 12 Mar 1998 14:04:22 +0000 Uh OH . . . > If people do want to split the driving, though, by the time June > rolls around, I may have forgotten the horrors of driving through > Washington DC at one o'clock in the morning and might be convinced to > once again gas up the Menwithouthats Party Van (a Mazda MPV, for > those of you who missed the joke last year). And this area actually > is a pretty good mustering point for NC, TN, SC, and GA. Oh, god, I > think I am talking myself into doing this again. Trena, stop me!!!!! OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD... Somebody quick! hand me a stick to poke her with . . . a bat to hit her over the head . . . a feather to tickle her silly . . . a . . . oh, heck, I don't know. I guess that 18 hour non-stop trek back home wasn't too bad. After all, Laura had enough energy after spending so much time with Ivan and co. that she could have powered the world's nuclear plants. Hey, Laura, YOU could be our next natural resource! A dose of Ivan has no risidual effects on the environment. Cool! Now if I can just patent it before June . . . mmmh. (mind wanders off.... Mmmmh donuts...: ) Trena, aka the mad scientist Trena_Brantley@ncsu.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike Subject: (hats) shameless promotion - best way to do it!! Date: 12 Mar 1998 19:36:58 +0100 > this may somewhat shameless promotion and probably against list >rules but since some of you are going to need to fly to montreal and all >of you might not have a travel agent, and my mother just happens to be >one.... > > Call her at farnum and christ(different from jesus) at >18003662048 between 9am and 5pm eastern time they will be glad to have >your business and we'll be keeping it all in the family. > >Thanks >Whit Can she deal with aliens ie ppl from England? }:-) Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike Subject: Re: (hats) The Show Date: 12 Mar 1998 19:37:01 +0100 >hey there! > >as a fellow cali-head, i can safely say that airfare for us is probably going >to be $650-750 (maybe more by the time of this writing:/)...which is why i'm >antsy for a date, as the closer we book, the more it shall cost....this is >not >a rip on YOU, Francis; ) i know you are doing all you can:) > >i'll keep my eyes peeled, nonetheless:) > >ttyl, >Charlotte so its cheaper to fly from London to Montreal than from within the US - excellent (for me) and bad news (for you)... }:-) Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) The Show Date: 12 Mar 1998 15:12:52 EST In a message dated 98-03-12 15:02:09 EST, moose@globald.demon.co.uk writes: > so its cheaper to fly from London to Montreal than from within the US - > excellent (for me) and bad news (for you)... > > }:-) > Mike > :P~ i'm working on it, i'm working on it! sheesh! ;) -C- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" Subject: (hats) cheap airfare? Date: 12 Mar 1998 15:40:36 +0000 Hi Hatters! Mike da Moose said > > so its cheaper to fly from London to Montreal than from within the US - then Charlotte said > i'm working on it, i'm working on it! I have an idea - let's all go to Mikey's for a few days, then fly to Montreal on those low airfares out of Gatwick. ;-) Mikey, you and I could go to the Spanish Galleon for lunch and then eat feast bars all night while watching SP movies! Sound like fun? ;-) L8R, everybody! :-) Laura # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) cheap airfare? Date: 12 Mar 1998 16:08:42 EST In a message dated 98-03-12 15:46:33 EST, Laura_Kramer@ncsu.edu writes: > > Hi Hatters! > > Mike da Moose said > > > so its cheaper to fly from London to Montreal than from within the US - > > > then Charlotte said > > i'm working on it, i'm working on it! > > I have an idea - let's all go to Mikey's for a few days, then fly to > Montreal on those low airfares out of Gatwick. ;-) > > Mikey, you and I could go to the Spanish Galleon for lunch and then > eat feast bars all night while watching SP movies! Sound like fun? > ;-) > > L8R, everybody! > > > :-) Laura > heehee...if i'm flying all the way to london...it'll take wild horses to pull me away...even Ivan would be a tough sell, hon;) welp, so far the best quote i've got for a non-stop is an air canada flight for the dates i want (june 25 to july 19) for about $641....i really need BIG TIME tips on places to stay in Montreal...i've been instructed to avoid the Village (whatever THAT is) like the plague...i know that there are plenty of well-seasoned Montrealers here, and any info would be dearly appreciated:) my real goal is to find a decent BnB in downtown, where i do not have to pay more than $75(CAN) (which i think is about $50-ish in US $$) per night, as i am looking at a shade over a 3-week stay:) (this was originally going to be two weeks in Montreal, and one week in Toronto, but will do Toronto next year) but if worse comes to worse, i might be persuaded to trim it down to a 2-week stay....it all depends on what i can find help me out here, hatters! thanks, Charlotte # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: Re: (hats) Meeting recollections Date: 12 Mar 1998 21:16:00 EST In a message dated 98-03-10 19:24:48 EST, Vince writes: << *As Angie has already alluded to, Dave Byrne did not like the idea of an opening act. He said it was too risky for Ivan to have to follow a 'potentially amateurish opening'. Of all the ideas Francis gave him, he was the most adamant about this one. Sorry folks. >> This is understandable. However, just to show you I would never have allowed a potentially amateurish opening to even be considered for this show, check out my brother's band's website: www.watchtowerent.com/winefield This will give you an idea of what they are doing lately in the world of independent label recording and touring. AND, the people who take care of his website actually update it when necessary. When you see the picture of the two faces, my brother is the one on the left, just so you know. Angie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Abraham, Howard E." Subject: (hats) carpool Date: 12 Mar 1998 08:12:32 -0600 Taxes are hitting hard this year, so it looks like airfare to Montreal is out of my reach. It's about a 21-hour drive from Minnesota to Montreal. Is there anyone in Wisconsin, Illinois, Ohio, Pennsylvania, or New York that would be interested in carpooling? My wife and I have a Sunbird, so it's not exactly spacious, but we could change cars if yours is larger. --Howard # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Davis Subject: (hats) Ivan at Junos? Date: 12 Mar 1998 12:11:35 -0800 Hi, I know I asked before, but.. does anyone know if Ivan will be attending the Juno Awards in Vancouver? Believe it or not, there's no mention of it on the Tox website and (go figure) email to that site goes unanswered.. Jim goreal@oz.net http://www.oz.net/~goreal/menwithouthats/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aerechui Subject: (hats) tox website? Date: 12 Mar 1998 23:57:04 EST has anyone considered the possibility that there is some sort of technical problem on the tox end of the deal that somehow prevents them from receiving mail? it would explain why no one ever hears anything from it..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: (hats) show Date: 13 Mar 1998 00:04:55 EST I have a question that will be valid once this show is finally confirmed: Could we somehow arrange a web simulcast for those Hatters who won't be able to make it? Angie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Claude Grégoire" Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan at Junos? Date: 13 Mar 1998 00:18:41 -0500 James Davis a =E9crit: > I know I asked before, but.. does anyone know if Ivan will be attending > the Juno Awards in Vancouver? I think he will be attending... (I'll tape the show anyway) > Believe it or not, there's no mention of it on the Tox website and (go > figure) email to that site goes unanswered.. I find it very hard to beleive. Have you tried all the email address, The= re are 8 of them I beleive... perplex Claude # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Claude Grégoire" Subject: Re: (hats) tox website? Date: 13 Mar 1998 00:25:05 -0500 Aerechui a =E9crit: >=20 > has anyone considered the possibility that there is some sort of techni= cal > problem on the tox end of the deal that somehow prevents them from rece= iving > mail? > it would explain why no one ever hears anything from it..... All jokes aside (I know, look who's talking) I think TOX is lacking the human resources neccessary to properly maintai= n a web site and manage e-mail... Take care Claude # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gregory T. Samson" Subject: Re: (hats) Private show --- DATE Date: 12 Mar 1998 11:47:24 -0800 At 17:18 -0800 03/11/98, JDivito334 wrote: >We don't talk about the deposit now, we don't talk about booking your >vacation, we just talk about getting this show started properly with our >requests. > >As soon as I have a confirmation of our requests, I'll write you a public >message. Makes perfect sense to me, Francis. Once we have a confirmation that things will happen, things like dates, booking flights, etc. become much more relevant. Keep on with your good works :) -- Gregory T. Samson, MD - Dr. Evil Microwizard (gtsamson[at]bigfoot.com) "This is DUMB." "That's never held us back before, Jane." -- G. Morrison, Doom Patrol #63 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) tox website? Date: 13 Mar 1998 03:05:18 EST In a message dated 98-03-12 23:59:18 EST, Aerechui@aol.com writes: > > > has anyone considered the possibility that there is some sort of technical > problem on the tox end of the deal that somehow prevents them from receiving > mail? > it would explain why no one ever hears anything from it..... > gee..wouldn't one think that they would've caught on by NOW??!!??!! ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike Subject: Re: (hats) cheap airfare? Date: 13 Mar 1998 18:53:22 +0100 >Hi Hatters! > >Mike da Moose said >> > so its cheaper to fly from London to Montreal than from within the US - > >then Charlotte said >> i'm working on it, i'm working on it! > >I have an idea - let's all go to Mikey's for a few days, then fly to >Montreal on those low airfares out of Gatwick. ;-) > >Mikey, you and I could go to the Spanish Galleon for lunch and then >eat feast bars all night while watching SP movies! Sound like fun? >;-) > >L8R, everybody! > > >:-) Laura I'm game... }:-) Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alain Robillard-Bastien" Subject: (hats) Full orchestral arrangement Date: 14 Mar 1998 11:28:17 -0500 I was listening to the PGTW album this morning, when I noticed that a lot of MWH songs could sound really good -and VERY powerful- when played by a full orchestra, with real strings, brass section, etc. Am I in the twillight zone??? Al. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334 Subject: (hats) Ivan's show --- UPDATE Date: 14 Mar 1998 11:40:35 EST Hey gang. NO NEWS, GOOD NEWS, that's what I have to say. If Ivan didn't want our request, the answer would be NO immediately. If it takes time, it's a good sign! Ciao Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) Full orchestral arrangement Date: 14 Mar 1998 14:57:49 EST In a message dated 98-03-14 11:30:52 EST, you write: > > > I was listening to the PGTW album this morning, when I noticed that a lot of > MWH songs could sound really good -and VERY powerful- when played by a full > orchestra, with real strings, brass section, etc. Am I in the twillight > zone??? > > Al. > Al, I've been thinking that for ages ;) Charlotte # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) Full orchestral arrangement Date: 14 Mar 1998 14:59:24 EST In a message dated 98-03-14 11:30:52 EST, arbastie@crim.ca writes: > > > I was listening to the PGTW album this morning, when I noticed that a lot of > MWH songs could sound really good -and VERY powerful- when played by a full > orchestra, with real strings, brass section, etc. Am I in the twillight > zone??? > > Al. > Al, I've been thinking that for AGES! *Besides, it worked for Split Enz, didn't it? ;)* ttyl, Charlotte # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kajjia Gorian" Subject: (hats) VH1 Date: 14 Mar 1998 13:13:15 -0800 VH1 is doing an "8 days of Eighties" week this week. They have a series on that station called "Pop Up Video" in which little captions pop up at certain points of the video with little quips or tidbits of information. I caught on tape the Safety DAnce video mnus the first 2 seconds or so. I think it woudl make a nice addition to a new video collection, so someone in the US with a better VCR than I should tape it if it happens to repeat, which I am sure it will. Prolly tonight around 5ish I think it's gonna repeat. Things I learned from watching this show: There's a power line in the backround of the video Ivan was born in Urbana, IL. Ivan said the name of the band "Just popped into his head" Safety Dance is NOT a reference to safe sex The band broke up because it "got greedy" The video was shot in rural England The band was in NYC rehearsing for the ROY tour when the video was shot. Well, that's all I have to say or now. If anyone with a spiffy VCR can, GET IT ON TAPE! I am sure the rest of the list would like to see it. Aaron Gitlin http://kajjia.home.ml.org http://menwohats.home.ml.org Security, everyone feels better with... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniele Rossi Subject: (hats) Safety Dance info Date: 15 Mar 1998 02:35:23 -0500 >Things I learned from watching this show: >There's a power line in the backround of the video HAHAHAHAHAHA >Ivan said the name of the band "Just popped into his head" I thought the story was the mix-up with "Men Without Hate" >The band broke up because it "got greedy" I thought they never really broke up. Just never recorded for a while. >The video was shot in rural England I thought it was recorded in Ontario. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Online Comic Book http://www.interlog.com/~daniele 883 Fan Page...dal Canada? http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3603 Spandau Ballet Unofficial Homepage http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/7994 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Men Without Hate Date: 15 Mar 1998 02:43:48 -0500 (EST) I have located a used copy of "In The 21st Century" on CD at a local record shoppe here in Tulsa. I don't remember if it's out of print now or not, but if anybody's needing a copy I'll be happy to get it and mail it to them if you send me a check first to cover the costs. The price on the disk is $13.98 which I thought was extremely steep for a used disk but I think the woman who owns and runs the place, Rita, knows what she's got in that one. I already have it and don't really care for it, so I didn't get buy it when I saw it, but if anybody else is hard up enough to be willing to pay that much for it plus shipping, I just wanted to let you know it's available. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aaron Fagerstrom" Subject: (hats) new member yo Date: 15 Mar 1998 10:55:19 GMT --- New members are encouraged to introduce themselves. When you join, please send a message to the list describing (in brief) who you are and your interest in the list's topic. --- Hey... I'm Aaron... I'm currently studying art in SF... I don't really know that much about Men Without Hats beyond their singles... I recently heard Pop Goes the World again, and, basically I want every remix I can find of it... and while I'm at it I might as well try to listen to some of their other stuff, too... Guess that's it... too brief? too long? oh well... bye . . .. .. . . . . .. . .a. . .. . . ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: Re: (hats) Safety Dance info Date: 15 Mar 1998 14:56:04 EST In a message dated 98-03-15 02:33:09 EST, Daniele write: << >The video was shot in rural England I thought it was recorded in Ontario. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> No, it was recorded in England near Bath. Angie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334 Subject: Re: (hats) Safety Dance info Date: 15 Mar 1998 21:22:34 EST Hey! Safety Dance was shoot at Goring on Thames, 80 km west of London. Ciao Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cpisarr1@ic3.ithaca.edu Subject: Re: (hats) Re: Booking Trips Date: 16 Mar 1998 13:16:55 -0500 (EST) If there are a bunch of people going to Montreal (which there are..i was just prefacing my comment)...then we could stay at a youth hostel. The Auberge de Junesse (I don't know French at all so this is probably spelled incorrect) is a hostel a block from the Molsen Center (where the Canadians play). I know that they have room deals there...like if you get 4 or more people to a room...the price drops dramatically. For one person, it is $17 Canadian dollars a night. They have rooms for 8 and I think 12 people. What do you guys think of this? Collin Pisarra @ Ithaca College **************************************** ******************************* ALWAYS REMEMBER THESE LINES: *************** "Big Bucks, Big Bucks....Stop." ********** "On a whammy." *************** ******************************* **************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cpisarr1@ic3.ithaca.edu Subject: (hats) The old man says it all Date: 16 Mar 1998 13:34:02 -0500 (EST) "WHEN I'M BACK...BACK IN TOP IN JUNE!" -Frank Sinatra ---I figured this quote could apply to this group--- ****************************** MAY THIS E-MAIL SUCCEED WHY THE E-MAILS OF MY FRIENDS FAIL..YET MAY I ALWAYS BE PERCEIVED AS A TEAM PLAYER *********** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" Subject: (hats) Re: Booking Trips Date: 16 Mar 1998 16:36:25 +0000 Hi Hatters! Collin said > ..then we could stay at a youth hostel. A great idea - but, how "youthful" do you have to be to get to stay in a youth hostel? ;-) :-) L (28 and counting!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) Re: Booking Trips Date: 16 Mar 1998 17:27:12 EST In a message dated 98-03-16 16:42:14 EST, Laura_Kramer@ncsu.edu writes: > > > Hi Hatters! > > Collin said > > ..then we could stay at a youth hostel. > > A great idea - but, how "youthful" do you have to be to get to stay > in a youth hostel? ;-) > > :-) L (28 and counting!) > > hey hatters:) Laura, there is NO age requirement for staying at a hostel...i would consider this myself, if i wasn't staying for so long so have so much with me *i don't like the thought of having to lock my stuff in a locker every single day for 3 weeks!* therefore, i am attempting to go the `b-n-b' route...should have some decent quotes shortly...man, i wish that there was a small cottage i could rent for about $450/mo...that would be so cool:) but there ya go:) as far as i know, people of ALL ages stay at hostels:) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: Re: (hats) Re: Booking Trips Date: 16 Mar 1998 19:01:09 EST Collin said > ..then we could stay at a youth hostel. Then Laura said, >A great idea - but, how "youthful" do you have to be to get to stay > in a youth hostel? ;-) As far as I know, they don't actually put an age limit on those who can stay in one. They're geared toward young travelers but if you're in your 30's they're not going to turn you away on that basis. Angie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aerechui Subject: (hats) did anyone know? - safety dance video Date: 16 Mar 1998 21:28:42 EST just wondering.... did anyone else know that the safety dance video is basically a representation of the typical wiccan/pagan beltane (mayday) ceremonies?- they do a parade every year in padstow, england. they have the hobby horse, Punch (played in the video by stefan, i believe), (his stick is known as "the tease or tease stick) and the morris dancers. oh yeah- and all the traditional beltane masques so many folks are wearing. and i am sure you've all long since noticed the punk rockers just hanging around in the background. just wondering if anyone knew....... Adieu aerechui. ps has anyone been able to tell what the pin on ivan's jerkin says? : ) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BDay0000 Subject: Re: (hats) Re: Booking Trips Date: 16 Mar 1998 22:03:11 EST Hatters, Could someone tell me how far it is from the Montreal Airport to the downtown area where the MWH show will be? In some cities, it costs $20 each to get to the city from the airport. Anyone want to carpool from the airport and then back after the weekend? Also, has it been confirmed that the show will be the same weekend as the Jazz Fest? Thanks, Brad Day Atlanta, GA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alain Robillard-Bastien" Subject: (hats) Booking, transport, info, etc. Date: 17 Mar 1998 00:05:23 -0500 First for the hostel: in Ireland, last Fall, I was in a youth hostel with a very fine german couple; but they were about 60! So, in all major hostels, age is not a criteria anymore. It is more a matter of taste, and money as well... I've been told by a few travellers I know that it is often more fun in those hostels since you can meet people more easily. I will check how it is exactly in Montreal. Second: from the Dorval airport (all of you coming by plane should land there, since Mirabel, the other airport far from Montreal, is now dedicated to charters - lucky you!), it is 35$ CAN MAXIMUM (more around 20$ I think) for the ride to downtown Montreal, but I think they have a fixed rate. I'll check that in the next cab I'll take. This price is for the ride, no matter how many you are to get on the cab. You can also use a special luxury bus service for less, or even the city bus, for less than 2$. So if you don't have a lot of stuff and/or money, this solution is the cheapest. The bus will take you to the subway. From there, you can go anywhere downtown Montreal. The "Auberge de Jeunesse" (Collin, you were almost right! ;-) ) is located at the Bonaventure Station, wich is on the same subway line that the one the airport's bus will take you to. So you can be there in an hour or so, quite easily, for 1.85$ to be exact. May I say, at the risk of sounding a little bit like a travel agent, that even though common sens is "de rigueur" like in any big city, public transportation in Montreal are perfectly safe, as is the downtown area. As safe as the MARTA, Brad... ;-) If you fellows have a few questions about Montreal, I can check some stuff around. So go ahead and post your question to the list (so the same questions won't be asked over and over) this week, I will try (and be pleased) to gather informations next week-end. I'll post the answers to the list as well. I already had a few questions about B&B, etc. Please note, however, that I will not book rooms, etc. But I can give phone numbers, prices,and so. Also, it could be possible for me to be at the airport at your arrival, depending when will be your flight of course. Could be useful, for example, if it is your first time in Montreal: I could help a little bit for directions, etc. And Happy St-Patrick's Day to our Irish friends...! Al. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alain Robillard-Bastien" Subject: (hats) Some hotels in Montreal Date: 17 Mar 1998 00:18:04 -0500 This page will give you some basic data about some hotels in Montreal. http://interresa.ca/hotel/canada/quebec/12/ And make sure to check the URL's Nicolas Roux sent a few days ago! Al. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alain Robillard-Bastien" Subject: (hats) Montreal's subway Date: 17 Mar 1998 00:21:25 -0500 Ok, last message for today... Check this URL for info on the Montreal subway: http://metro.ratp.fr:10001/bin/select/english/canada/montreal Al. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alain Robillard-Bastien" Subject: (hats) Very good listing of Montreal hostels and hotels Date: 17 Mar 1998 00:41:33 -0500 Ok, just one last little message... This URL says it all, it is an official and credible site, where I noticed that it is not the Bonaventure station I should have talked about, but Lucien L'Allier (next one..., not that bad!) http://www.tourism-montreal.org/aubergea.htm Al. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alain Robillard-Bastien" Subject: (hats) Montreal's official youth hostel Date: 17 Mar 1998 00:54:22 -0500 Well, it seems I just can't stop... So here are the informations about the main Montreal's youth hostel. You have everything you need to know there, including email and 1-800 number. More: they even have their website at: http://www.hostellingmontreal.com/ Those informations were gathered from the last URL I've sent you before. Check it out though, there are other choices, including B&B and hotels. I guess that some of you would prefer the last two choices. Al. YOUTH HOSTELS Hostelling International Montr=E9al 1030 Mackay Street Montr=E9al (Qu=E9bec) H3G 2H1 M=E9tro: Lucien-L'Allier Tel.: (514) 843-3317, Fax: (514) 934-3251 Toll free: 1-800-663-3317 Email: info@ajmontreal.qc.ca 12 private rooms. 246 beds. The =ABAuberge de Jeunesse de Montr=E9al=BB is a member of the International Hostel Network. Inspected annually, the Auberge de Jeunesse de Montr=E9al has a superior rating. Air-conditioned, bathroom and shower in each room, self-service cooking facilities and laundry room. The Auberge also offers a variety of activities geared to groups and individuals: guided city tours, theme entertainment, nearby toboganning and skating. No age limit. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cpisarr1@ic3.ithaca.edu Subject: (hats) youth hostels Date: 16 Mar 1998 18:13:35 -0500 (EST) HarpiChick Wrote: i would consider this myself, if i wasn't staying for so long so have so much with me *i don't like the thought of having to lock my stuff in a locker every single day for 3 weeks!* therefore, i am attempting to go the `b-n-b' route... "And I say" (little MWH ref. there): We don't have to worry about locking things up b/c in the room would be all MWH fans. I'm sure no stealing would go on. Hey, we live in "a nation that worships its beggars and theives..." Luckily, we're not included in that stat. ****************************** MAY THIS E-MAIL SUCCEED WHY THE E-MAILS OF MY FRIENDS FAIL..YET MAY I ALWAYS BE PERCEIVED AS A TEAM PLAYER *********** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cpisarr1@ic3.ithaca.edu Subject: Re: (hats) Montreal's official youth hostel Date: 17 Mar 1998 02:25:52 -0500 (EST) and to follow up on AL's repeated messages... I will tell you all that I stayed in the Auberge de Jeunesse (i still don't know if I'm spelling it right) in Montreal. It is SO clean and they clean the rooms everyday and people there are so polite. The receptionists are young (youths) and there is a tv lounge and private showers. And I promise that the hostel had nothing to do with this PR I'm giving it. ITHAcoll ****************************** MAY THIS E-MAIL SUCCEED WHY THE E-MAILS OF MY FRIENDS FAIL..YET MAY I ALWAYS BE PERCEIVED AS A TEAM PLAYER *********** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cpisarr1@ic3.ithaca.edu Subject: Re: (hats) Booking, transport, info, etc. Date: 17 Mar 1998 02:22:24 -0500 (EST) Just to clear up information on youth hostels: They began to flourish in the time of the 50's and 60's with Kerouak and the beat generation. The reason they were named youth hostels...was because they attracted mainly youths. Now, the hostel doesn't descriminate...it doesn't matter how old you are...just that you have money. Collin From Ithaca ****************************** MAY THIS E-MAIL SUCCEED WHY THE E-MAILS OF MY FRIENDS FAIL..YET MAY I ALWAYS BE PERCEIVED AS A TEAM PLAYER *********** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cpisarr1@ic3.ithaca.edu Subject: Re: (hats) did anyone know? - safety dance video Date: 17 Mar 1998 02:19:40 -0500 (EST) Did you guys know that the Safety Dance video was on an episode of Pop Up Video. I don't know who gets that show but it is hilarious...they put little factoids on the screen while a video is playing. I didn't see it but a friend told me it was on. Collin from Ithaca ****************************** MAY THIS E-MAIL SUCCEED WHY THE E-MAILS OF MY FRIENDS FAIL..YET MAY I ALWAYS BE PERCEIVED AS A TEAM PLAYER *********** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Oglio" Subject: (hats) Safety Dance on Pop Up Video Date: 17 Mar 1998 11:58:29 -0700 I was contacted by VH1 and Pop Up Video a couple months ago for facts. I gave them Stephan and Ivan's number. Carl Oglio > Did you guys know that the Safety Dance video was on an episode of > Pop Up Video. I don't know who gets that show but it is hilarious...they > put little factoids on the screen while a video is playing. > I didn't see it but a friend told me it was on. > > Collin from Ithaca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) youth hostels Date: 17 Mar 1998 15:28:57 EST In a message dated 98-03-17 03:41:07 EST, cpisarr1@ic3.ithaca.edu writes: > > > HarpiChick Wrote: > i would consider > this myself, if i wasn't staying for so long so have so much with me *i > don't > like the thought of having to lock my stuff in a locker every single day > for 3 > weeks!* therefore, i am attempting to go the `b-n-b' route... > > "And I say" (little MWH ref. there): > We don't have to worry about locking things up b/c in the room would be > all MWH fans. I'm sure no stealing would go on. Hey, we live in "a nation > that worships its beggars and theives..." > Luckily, we're not included in that stat. > > uh...HELLO!! OTHER individuals will be staying in the hostel BESIDES MWH fans! in any case, i did not mean that comment as a slight against others on the list who would be considering this option; i am merely remembering some literature on a hostel pamphlet that specifically states that it is a good precaution to lock items up when away....don't get your jockeys in a bunch, sheesh! ttyl, Charlotte the Grouch :P~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cpisarr1@ic3.ithaca.edu Subject: Re: (hats) youth hostels Date: 17 Mar 1998 15:45:00 -0500 (EST) Harpi Chick wrote: uh...HELLO!! OTHER individuals will be staying in the hostel BESIDES MWH fans! "And I say": You can reserve rooms for just the people you know. You can keep all stuff in your room. People can't get into your room without a key. These are all very simple concepts. No bitterness...I've just had 5 hours of classes today. "It's plain as da-hey!" Collin from Ithaca ****************************** MAY THIS E-MAIL SUCCEED WHY THE E-MAILS OF MY FRIENDS FAIL..YET MAY I ALWAYS BE PERCEIVED AS A TEAM PLAYER *********** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cpisarr1@ic3.ithaca.edu Subject: (hats) safety dance video Date: 17 Mar 1998 17:27:43 -0500 (EST) >what >hat facts were used on Safety Dance video on Pop Up Video > Does anybody know this? Ithacoll ****************************** MAY THIS E-MAIL SUCCEED WHY THE E-MAILS OF MY FRIENDS FAIL..YET MAY I ALWAYS BE PERCEIVED AS A TEAM PLAYER *********** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Fleischer" Subject: (hats) introduction Date: 18 Mar 1998 00:48:40 +0100 Hello! I am Klaus from Germany! I am new to this list. Men Without Hats has been one of my first bands I ever listened to. 'Rhythm of youth' was the first album I bought, that's 15 years ago. I have been with this band from the beginning(almost). I loved "Folk of the 80s III" when it was released back in '84. (I am a proud owner of the original CD-release of Folk of the 80's III) Three hard years followed, while I thought, MWH had split up. Then PGTW appeared. It was like a resurrection. 21st Century was another masterpiece. Sideways: I still don't know what I should think of it. 'Everybody wants to know' surely is one of the most beautiful songs I know. I had lost track of MWH for quite some time. Then I found this list. It is good to know, that there are still many people interested in MWH. I haven't got Ivan's new album, but I know, I have to get it. Klaus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rush" Subject: (hats) Fw: Bootlegs?? Date: 13 Mar 1998 00:22:01 -0600 Hey Myke (from Pig Pen), Tom, Richard, or anyone who may be reading this and have some expertise. What is the procedure for showing up at a concert and making a boot? I won't have access to actual connections, so how is this done? Does one buy a nice minidisk recorder? Is there a mic that plugs in so that you could run one down each arm for stereo? How far do you stay from the stage? Any and all ideas would be appreciated, or any sources on the web would be great as well. Cordially, Rush "If you saw Atlas, the giant who holds the world on his shoulders, if you saw that he stood, blood running down his chest, his knees buckling, his arms trembling but still trying to hold the world aloft with the last of this strength, and the greater his effort, the heavier the world bore down on his shoulders--what would you tell him to do?" "I... don't know. What... could he do? What would you tell him?" "To shrug." --Ayn Rand # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WII@aon.dk Subject: (hats) the collection Date: 13 Mar 1998 13:18:10 +0100 hi. does anyone have the labelnumber of the CMC international - men without hats collection, that was released not long ago?? My favorite recordstore need the number to order the cd. Willy e-mail: wii@aon.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fspin@post.uni-bielefeld.de Subject: (hats) BBC live on vinyl Date: 13 Mar 1998 14:30:46 +0100 (MET) Hi there, I promised to list the tracks from the A Flock Of Seagulls part of the split release of Men Without Hats/AFOS. Here they are: 1) DNA 2) Messages 3) Nightmares 4) Over The Border 5) What Am I Supposed To Do 6) Wishing Thomas asked me whether I was willing to sell or trade my original BBC radioshow vinyl. I told him that I would trade it for: - Moonbeam CD single - Pop Goes The World CD Video If there is anybody who has these and is interested in trading, please let me know. Best Wishes, Frank # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fspin@post.uni-bielefeld.de Subject: (hats) 1...2...3... Date: 14 Mar 1998 08:55:54 +0100 (MET) Hi there, I sent a message yesterday which seems lost... Anyway, here I go again. I had promised to supply you with the track-listing of A Flock Of Seagulls from the original BBC transcript vinyl of MWH/A Flock Of Seagulls. 1) DNA 2) Messages 3) Nightmares 4) Over The Border 5) What Am I Supposed To Do 6) Wishing Thomas from Germany asked if I was willing to sell or trade this LP. I would trade it for: - Moonbeam (CD single) or - Pop Goes The World (CD Video) If anybody's interested, let me know. Cheers, Frank # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rush" Subject: Re: (hats) Full orchestral arrangement Date: 14 Mar 1998 11:08:18 -0600 No, it worked like a DREAM for the Moody Blues.... Cordially, Rush "If you saw Atlas, the giant who holds the world on his shoulders, if you saw that he stood, blood running down his chest, his knees buckling, his arms trembling but still trying to hold the world aloft with the last of this strength, and the greater his effort, the heavier the world bore down on his shoulders--what would you tell him to do?" "I... don't know. What... could he do? What would you tell him?" "To shrug." --Ayn Rand I was listening to the PGTW album this morning, when I noticed that a lot of MWH songs could sound really good -and VERY powerful- when played by a full orchestra, with real strings, brass section, etc. Am I in the twillight zone??? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Mattingly Subject: (hats) VH1 Date: 14 Mar 1998 13:33:25 -0800 I just checked the VH1 site, and the MWH video will be replayed at 8:00 AM (EST) on Tuesday (the 17th). Dave Mattingly # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Mattingly Subject: (hats) Pop Up Video Date: 14 Mar 1998 12:17:29 -0800 I just saw Safety Dance on Pop Up Video! It's Eight Days of Eighties week, and today's Pop Up focused on dancing. I wish I had been able to tape it, but I was visiting my parents' house. For those who haven't seen it, Pop Up Video is a half-hour program on VH1. They show a video, and pop up bits of information during the song, sometimes informative, sometimes irreverent. My favorite bit was at the very beginning, when Ivan and the dwarf first appear. They point to Ivan and pop up "Man without hat." Then they point to the dwarf and pop up "Man without height." A close second place was shortly after, when they point to the dwarf and pop up "Medieval jester," and when the girl pops into the scene with her goofy grin, they point to her and pop up "Medieval fool." They mention a few interesting tidbits, like Ivan's birthday is October 9, 1957. And the video was shot in one day in England, and the rest of the band couldn't be there because they were in New York rehearsing for either a tour or a recording -- I forget which. And Ivan founded the band in '80, and the band name "just came to him." There was the speculation that the song was about safe sex, since "jimmy hat" was one of the many slangs for condom at the time, and people could no longer dance in the sheets safely without hats without fear of AIDS and other various diseases. Then at the end of the video, they mention that Ivan now dances alone, because the success of the song caused the band to get too greedy, and they broke up shortly after. So their info is definitely not completely correct, but it was great to see the video getting the treatment. As a good running gag, the next video was The Hooters' "And We Danced." They pointed to a concessions vendor wearing a hat and popped up "Man with hat." Dave Mattingly http://www.geocities.com/soho/5953 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Candace Roberts Subject: (hats) Confused about what this is? Date: 15 Mar 1998 12:36:50 -0500 I somehow wrote this tracklisting down in my notebook under the heading Men Without Hats. I can't remember where I got it from. Does anybody know what this is??? Thanks Tracks: the safety dance living in china i got the message where do the boys go antartica folk of the 80s i like no dancing the great ones remember eurotheme unsatisfaction cocoricci (le tango des voleurs) things in my life messiahs die young i know their name i sing last/ not for tears # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rush" Subject: (hats) Philharmonic O? Date: 15 Mar 1998 12:33:46 -0600 The Moody Blues made a killing with the orchestra bit, and it sounds wonderful, even at Red Rocks.... Cordially, Rush "If you saw Atlas, the giant who holds the world on his shoulders, if you saw that he stood, blood running down his chest, his knees buckling, his arms trembling but still trying to hold the world aloft with the last of this strength, and the greater his effort, the heavier the world bore down on his shoulders--what would you tell him to do?" "I... don't know. What... could he do? What would you tell him?" "To shrug." --Ayn Rand # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) youth hostels Date: 17 Mar 1998 21:17:27 EST In a message dated 98-03-17 15:50:02 EST, cpisarr1@ic3.ithaca.edu writes: > Harpi Chick wrote: > uh...HELLO!! > OTHER individuals will be staying in the hostel BESIDES MWH fans! > > "And I say": > You can reserve rooms for just the people you know. > You can keep all stuff in your room. > People can't get into your room without a key. > These are all very simple concepts. > No bitterness...I've just had 5 hours of classes today. > > "It's plain as da-hey!" > > Collin from Ithaca > colin, i just love how you managed to eliminate the rest of my message, but oh well....i'm not going to inspire nor participate in another cat session.....i was simply speaking for myself; you may not like my decision, but i do ask that you respect it and leave it be so the rest of us have more pleasant email to read on this list:) Thank You, Charlotte:) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cpisarr1@ic3.ithaca.edu Subject: Re: (hats) youth hostels Date: 17 Mar 1998 22:27:13 -0500 (EST) HarpiChick wrote: but i do ask that you respect it and leave it be so the rest of us have more pleasant email to read on this list Collin says: Sorry for that. I meant it to be taken lightly. In my media writing class...all we do is talk about Clinton and Lewinsky so I guess I'm always looking for controversy now. Collin at Ithaca ****************************** MAY THIS E-MAIL SUCCEED WHY THE E-MAILS OF MY FRIENDS FAIL..YET MAY I ALWAYS BE PERCEIVED AS A TEAM PLAYER *********** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Holdman" Subject: (hats) Pop-up Video on tonight Date: 18 Mar 1998 20:46:46 +0000 Tonight (March 18th) they will rerun the Safety Dance Video on Pop up Video at 8:30pm http://www.vh1.com/insidevh1/schedule/display.tin?dtBroadcastTime=03/1 8/1998%2020%3a30%3a00 Wednesday 3/18 Pop-Up 80s Men w/o Hats "Safety Dance" The Hooters "And We Danced" Herbie Hancok "Rock it" Wang Chung "Dance Hall Days" Jagger/Bowie "Dancin' In The Street" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Holdman" Subject: (hats) Pop-up Video on tonight Date: 18 Mar 1998 20:46:46 +0000 Tonight (March 18th) they will rerun the Safety Dance Video on Pop up Video at 8:30pm http://www.vh1.com/insidevh1/schedule/display.tin?dtBroadcastTime=03/1 8/1998%2020%3a30%3a00 Wednesday 3/18 Pop-Up 80s Men w/o Hats "Safety Dance" The Hooters "And We Danced" Herbie Hancok "Rock it" Wang Chung "Dance Hall Days" Jagger/Bowie "Dancin' In The Street" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Holdman" Subject: (hats) Pop-up Video on tonight Date: 18 Mar 1998 20:46:46 +0000 Tonight (March 18th) they will rerun the Safety Dance Video on Pop up Video at 8:30pm http://www.vh1.com/insidevh1/schedule/display.tin?dtBroadcastTime=03/1 8/1998%2020%3a30%3a00 Wednesday 3/18 Pop-Up 80s Men w/o Hats "Safety Dance" The Hooters "And We Danced" Herbie Hancok "Rock it" Wang Chung "Dance Hall Days" Jagger/Bowie "Dancin' In The Street" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Holdman" Subject: (hats) Multiple Posts Date: 18 Mar 1998 23:35:29 +0000 Something is really strange - I dont know if it is on my end or Xmission. But it seems like my last post posted 3 times. Maybe its time to reinstall the mail server. -Rich # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nathan Shireman Subject: Re: (hats) Confused about what this is? Date: 18 Mar 1998 13:34:52 -0500 (EST) I bet you anything that you were bored one day and wanted to make up the ultimate album for MWH's... so you wrote down a bunch of tracks in the order that you thought would be best. Am I right? nathan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rush" Subject: Re: (hats) Confused about what this is? Date: 18 Mar 1998 13:02:37 -0600 I'll take that bet, how much do you want to lose? Cordially, Rush "To shrug." --Ayn Rand -----Original Message----- From: Nathan Shireman Subject: Re: (hats) Confused about what this is? I bet you anything that you were bored one day and wanted to make up the ultimate album for MWH's... so you wrote down a bunch of tracks in the order that you thought would be best. Am I right? nathan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) youth hostels Date: 18 Mar 1998 15:12:10 EST In a message dated 98-03-18 04:04:46 EST, cpisarr1@ic3.ithaca.edu writes: > > > HarpiChick wrote: > but i do ask > that you respect it and leave it be so the rest of us have more pleasant > email > to read on this list > > Collin says: > Sorry for that. I meant it to be taken lightly. In my media writing > class...all we do is talk about Clinton and Lewinsky so I guess I'm always > looking for controversy now. > > Collin at Ithaca > apology accepted! :) ttyl, -C- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" Subject: (hats) Triangle (NC) chapter meeting Date: 18 Mar 1998 15:47:54 +0000 Hi Fellow Hatters! I promised I'd update the list on the Research Trianlge (NC) chapter of the MWH fan club meeting. It will be this Friday, March 20th, at the Chili's on Kildare Farm Road in Cary, at 11:30. If anyone is planning on popping in to North Carolina for the day, stop on by! We'll be the loud, rowdy ones wearing MWH T-shirts. For those who can't make it, we'll fill you in on all the gory details next week. :-) Update on T-shirt re-orders . . . Still trying to get them to call me back. I'll be charitable and suggest that the sales rep might be on vacation. Hope to know more soon! :-) Laura # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cpisarr1@ic3.ithaca.edu Subject: Re: (hats) Triangle (NC) chapter meeting Date: 18 Mar 1998 16:36:01 -0500 (EST) WHILE WE WERE MAKING T-SHIRTS...I KNOW SOMEBODY AS WELL WHO OWNS A T-SHIRT TYPE SMALL BUSINESS. I WAS THINKING OF MAKING T-SHIRTS WITH A BLACK T-SHIRT AND ON IT WOULD BE THE MWH LOGO AS PICTURED ON THE INSIDE OF THE PGTW CD...IT'S THE SAME LOGO AS IS ABOVE THE MEN WITHOUT HATS SITE INDEX. I WOULD PUT THE LOGO ON THE BACK OF THE T-SHIRT. THE FRONT WOULD JUST BE BLACK. ANY TAKERS??? WOULD PROBABLY COST (ASSUMING WE CAN GET 20-25 PEOPLE IN ON INT) BETWEEN $12-$16 PER T. LET ME KNOW PRIVATELY OR THROUGH THE E-MAIL. ****************************** MAY THIS E-MAIL SUCCEED WHY THE E-MAILS OF MY FRIENDS FAIL..YET MAY I ALWAYS BE PERCEIVED AS A TEAM PLAYER *********** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" Subject: (hats) Collin's new T's Date: 18 Mar 1998 17:29:01 +0000 Don't shout - we're not blind! ;-) Collin bellowed: > BLACK T-SHIRT AND ON IT WOULD BE THE MWH LOGO AS PICTURED ON THE > INSIDE OF THE PGTW CD Sounds nifty. I'd take one! :-) Laura # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: (hats) PopUp Video Date: 18 Mar 1998 22:09:27 EST I caught the Safety Dance video on VH-1 tonight. I had always wanted to see it with the little pop-up facts on it. I still love that video, power line and all. It was funny because tonight when I noticed it turned 8:30, I immediately turned on the TV and flipped to VH-1. And the first thing they showed was Men Without Hats, so my mother thought it was a little suspicious!!! She knows how much I have always loved them. She said, " That's a little strange!!! How did you know that was going to be on????" Angie :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric W. Soderblom" Subject: (hats) VH1 PICTURES!!! Date: 18 Mar 1998 23:32:42 -0800 Hatters- For those of you not lucky enough to get VH1, I have posted 15 pictures form the "Safety Dance" Pop-Up Video. Go see them here: http://home.earthlink.net/~soderblom/vh1.html. Later... Eric Soderblom soderblom@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~soderblom # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Holdman" Subject: (hats) Safety Dance Video - VH1 Date: 19 Mar 1998 20:43:55 +0000 Last night I recorded the VH1 Safety Dance Pop-Up Video. Hopfully in the next few weeks it will be on my site at http://www.holdman.com/mwh The file size will be around 45-50 meg. The video will also go onto the MWH semi-interactive CD-ROM that I will be making and offering to MWH fans on the list. I plan on putting all 5 CD boots in mp3 format on the disc along with some videos, pictures, and whatever will fit on it. If you have any ideas on the CD-ROM please let me know. -Richard # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david richards Subject: (hats) What's new? Date: 19 Mar 1998 11:40:50 -0500 Hi, Please forgive my utter ignorance here. I am in the process of putting together the next issue of LExicon mag and I seem to recall that there is going to be some sort of show by Ivan soon. Can anyone fill me in on this? I know I should have been reading the postings, but simply have not had the time. I would love tomention it in the next issue (or if it has already happened maybe someone has a quick review?) Thanks -Dave Richards PS- Any one seen Spins Top 42 Altrenative Novelty Hits? Safety Dance is in there. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Radio in the 1980s Date: 19 Mar 1998 12:47:54 -0500 (EST) Unrelated to the Hats but not to the spirit... Does anybody else on this list have surviving tapes of their favourite local pop radio stations recorded in the 1980s? I have recorded the radio on a fairly regular basis since 1979 and have an incredible collection of such tapes now. Recently I've been compiling them to (NTSC) VHS HiFi videotapes with lengths ranging from 4-8 hours each. I have also begun to make the indices for these compilations available online at my website. Right now, though, there is only a small fraction of my full collection available to be browsed. I will working feverishly ove rhte next few days to oops/ over the next few days to get all of the indices online. Anyway, I'm interested in trading copies of my tapes for similar tapes made by others from other locations. It seems that I have a severe lack of radio from the 1982-1983 era. To see what I've got online so far, point your browser (very carefully, please!(to : http://people.delphi.com/mykec/index.htm Click on the first Acid Purple Flower that you see. Then click on "My Radio Waves Museum". Thanks all for putting up with me off-topic post! Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike Subject: Re: (hats) Fw: Bootlegs?? Date: 19 Mar 1998 18:40:43 +0100 >Hey Myke (from Pig Pen), Tom, Richard, or anyone who may be reading this and >have some expertise. What is the procedure for showing up at a concert and >making a boot? I won't have access to actual connections, so how is this >done? Does one buy a nice minidisk recorder? Is there a mic that plugs in >so that you could run one down each arm for stereo? How far do you stay >from the stage? Any and all ideas would be appreciated, or any sources on >the web would be great as well. > >Cordially, >Rush I'd use the phrase 'carefully' for recording stuff at gigs. If you really do have to do it and dont mind the risk of having your stuff taken off you then get a fairly decent mic - stereo or mono (mono at gigs is better than a cheap stereo) and get as close to the mixing desk (US ppl call it a board) as the guys who mix the gig usually mix it for that point of the hall... I started to record a Howard Jones gig that way, but was caught and invited to use a spare set of outpust on the desk, and actualy met Howie afterwards... If you can't risk loosing your gear - dont do it! }:-) Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike Subject: Re: (hats) Triangle (NC) chapter meeting Date: 19 Mar 1998 18:57:09 +0100 >It will be this Friday, March 20th, at >the Chili's on Kildare Farm Road in Cary, at 11:30. darn, can't make it! }:-( # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Col Subject: (hats) bootleg covers Date: 19 Mar 1998 18:34:24 -0000 I'm making up some tape versions of the bootlegs for myself and was wondering if anyone has tape sleeve versions of the CD cover art for each. I don't have anything to extract them from the Acrobat files and all the other bitmaps I've found on the WEB are too small and get distorted when blown up to Cassette size. Can anyone help? Col # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Holdman" Subject: (hats) bootlegs artwork for tapes Date: 20 Mar 1998 02:15:03 +0000 > I guess I could make some in Tape format - It might be a week or so > until they are up on the site. > > -Rich > > > > > I'm making up some tape versions of the bootlegs for myself and > > was wondering if anyone has tape sleeve versions of the CD cover > > art for each. I don't have anything to extract them from the > > Acrobat files and all the other bitmaps I've found on the WEB are > > too small and get distorted when blown up to Cassette size. Can > > anyone help? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) Collin's new T's Date: 19 Mar 1998 16:22:49 EST In a message dated 98-03-18 17:34:42 EST, Laura_Kramer@ncsu.edu writes: > > > Don't shout - we're not blind! ;-) > > Collin bellowed: > > > BLACK T-SHIRT AND ON IT WOULD BE THE MWH LOGO AS PICTURED ON THE > > INSIDE OF THE PGTW CD > > Sounds nifty. I'd take one! > > :-) Laura > glad i'm not the only whose eyeballs are now deaf;) yeah, i'd be interested in one:) kewl beanz! Charlotte # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) PopUp Video Date: 19 Mar 1998 16:25:02 EST In a message dated 98-03-18 22:16:01 EST, ADTooley@aol.com writes: > > I caught the Safety Dance video on VH-1 tonight. I had always wanted to see > it with the little pop-up facts on it. I still love that video, power line > and all. > It was funny because tonight when I noticed it turned 8:30, I immediately > turned on the TV and flipped to VH-1. > And the first thing they showed was Men Without Hats, so my mother thought > it > was a little suspicious!!! She knows how much I have always loved them. > She said, " That's a little strange!!! How did you know that was going to > be on????" > > Angie :-) > BLAST! ( !@#$%^&@#$%^&*#$%^&@#$%^! ! ! ?!) i remembered at precisely 8:34, i tuned in right in the middle of that cursed hooters video...is there any more air dates for Safety Dance? :(:(:( Ttyl, Charlotte # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robin Platts/Mary Standell Subject: (hats) hats (vinyl) for sale Date: 19 Mar 1998 09:13:48 -0800 (PST) Dear Hats Fans, Due to lack of space, I am downsizing my vinyl collection, and selling off the following MWH and MWH-related items. I haven't put prices on them, so if you see something you want, please make me an offer.(All are Canadian pressings unless otherwise noted and all are in excellent shape.) Yours Truly, Robin Platts e-mail: robmar@islandnet.com MWH: O Sole Mio (Canadian 7" in poster sleeve) Where Do The Boys Go? (Canadian 12" single) Folk Of The 80s Part III (Canadian LP - just has big hats logo on front cover, no title) Safety Dance (UK 12") Pop Goes The World (Canadian LP) Rational Youth: I Want To See The Light 12" Saturdays In Silesia 12" Cold War Night Life LP Rational Youth ('84 EP w/original version of In Your Eyes) Heredity LP The Box: (The Box were a Montreal band fronted by singer/songwriter Jean Marc, who was in one of the early lineups of MWH. The group was produced by ex-MWH manager Marc Durand and signed to the Alert label, which Durand co-founded. All these releases are mid-80's records, produced by Durand.) The Box LP All The Time, All The Time, All The Time LP L'Affaire Dumoutier 12" Closer Together LP Mitsou: El Mundo LP (her first album, no Hats involvement, but this is AUTOGRAPHED.) (I also have a few EPs by early 80s Canadian synth-pop acts Images In Vogue abd Moral Support, if anyone's interested.) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: (hats) Re:Lexicon Date: 19 Mar 1998 16:47:56 EST In a message dated 98-03-19 11:42:24 EST, you write: << Hi, Please forgive my utter ignorance here. I am in the process of putting together the next issue of LExicon mag and I seem to recall that there is going to be some sort of show by Ivan soon. Can anyone fill me in on this? I know I should have been reading the postings, but simply have not had the time. I would love tomention it in the next issue (or if it has already happened maybe someone has a quick review?) Thanks -Dave Richards >> We would prefer you not mention the show in your magazine, if you are talking of the private show this summer for members of the Mailing List Only. Thanks! Angie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniele Rossi Subject: (hats) Junos "fixed" Date: 19 Mar 1998 16:59:40 -0500 I heard that "The Spell" (as in the song) is up for a Juno. Why on Earth is THAT song chosen when there were others which were RELEASED AS SINGLES? i do not mena to sound mean, but "Open Your eyes", "Superbadgirls" and "1972" are much better than "The Spell" in the category it was nominated for. Besides, the Junos are fixed anyway. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Online Comic Book http://www.interlog.com/~daniele 883 Fan Page...dal Canada? http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3603 Spandau Ballet Unofficial Homepage http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/7994 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: (hats) ICQ Date: 19 Mar 1998 17:00:09 EST Is anybody here on ICQ? I would like to add some users to my contact list and if anyone is interested, just e-mail me with your ICQ # and I will add you. Then you can add me, and we'll chat sometime about the Hats, the show, or life in general. :-) Angie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (hats) Junos "fixed" Date: 19 Mar 1998 15:13:34 -0800 (PST) On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Daniele Rossi wrote: > > I heard that "The Spell" (as in the song) is up for a Juno. Why on Earth is > THAT song chosen when there were others which were RELEASED AS SINGLES? i > do not mena to sound mean, but "Open Your eyes", "Superbadgirls" and "1972" > are much better than "The Spell" in the category it was nominated for. I have exactly the opposite reaction- I think "The Spell" is far and away the best song on the album. dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Woodrow W. Zenfell, III" Subject: Re: (hats) Junos "fixed" Date: 19 Mar 1998 18:06:59 -0600 (CST) On Thu, 19 Mar 1998 pleh@netcom.com wrote: > On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Daniele Rossi wrote: > > > I heard that "The Spell" (as in the song) is up for a Juno. Why on Earth is > > THAT song chosen when there were others which were RELEASED AS SINGLES? i > > do not mena to sound mean, but "Open Your eyes", "Superbadgirls" and "1972" > > are much better than "The Spell" in the category it was nominated for. > > I have exactly the opposite reaction- I think "The Spell" is far and away > the best song on the album. Which _I_ find amusing, since IMO "Forever" is the "standout track" on the album - nothing else really compares (closest is Open Your Eyes, with The Spell somewhere behind that). But I note that Daniele wrote "in the category it was nominated for".. I don't know what that category is, so if that limits the range of songs that "qualify"...... Incidentally, my college a cappella group "The Amateurs" will be performing Forever at our annual concert two days from now. I'll see what I can do about getting a recording of it and passing it on :) (For those who joined in the last 6 months or so, The Amateurs have released a CD with 16 studio-recorded tracks, including Ban the Game (short) and Where To ( :) ) The Boys Go?. Let me know if you're interested.) Take care, Woody # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniele Rossi Subject: (hats) an idea (just a joke) Date: 19 Mar 1998 20:18:17 -0500 Ok... for the performance we have CD writers, minidisc recorders, DAT machines, an opening act or two, a DJ, someone to videotape the event, and a Q&A segment. I say we get someone else with a video camera and....make a movie! Abba did it, the Beatles did it, heck even the Spice Girls. We can have it based on a bunch of mailing list members travel to Montreal (the rest of Canada, US, even Europe!). Skits with carpooling. the huge group of us on a rampage to all the record stores to find their CDs. Me trying to speak French but accidentally cause some sort of unity riot. Somehow we'll find a plot. In between, we'll have clips of Ivan's performances at the private concert. And we'll all wear the MWH t-shirts. Ivan went to film school didn't he? I'm sure he won't mind editing the film and releasing it in the local theatres :) Actually, the film would be better if the concert was during the St. Jean Baptiste festival. That way, we can wear blue MWH shirts and totally blend in with the crowd! We can have cameos too. We can call it...um...."Ivan the movie" or "Men Without Hats--The Movie" or "Hatworld". Following the Men Without Hats style, the dialogue in the film will be half French and half English. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Online Comic Book http://www.interlog.com/~daniele 883 Fan Page...dal Canada? http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3603 Spandau Ballet Unofficial Homepage http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/7994 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniele Rossi Subject: Re: (hats) Junos "fixed" Date: 19 Mar 1998 20:17:18 -0500 >Really?? Are they fixed?? >You know that for sure? >Some people (like my brother) say the Grammies are fixed and I am inclined to >believe it. I am sorry that I accused the Junos being fixed without any reasons to back me up :) A friend of mine is in the music business (kinda, he's a DJ but he goes to all the conferences etc and meets all the people on the inside). He told me some stories he heard (basically he put 2 and 2 together). What happened was a performer did not win best dance artist or something 2 years ago. He is on the board of the Junos or something like that or the head of a big dance music record label (I forget which). He got realy angry and blasted the Junos. So suddenly, he wins the following year even though his song was from the previous year (!) and the single he was up against (only 2 were nominated) was number 1 for an eternity. That's why I think they are fixed. I mean, "The Spell" gets nominated when it wasn't released?! Everyone knows "Open Your Eyes" and "Superbadgirls" is always on the radio. I think "the Spell" wasn't even released on promo-only 12" either. In my opinion, I think all award shows are fixed in one way or another (gee, I wonder what movie will get a million awards?). Especially the music ones :( I won't get into this because this is the Men Without Hats mailing list :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Online Comic Book http://www.interlog.com/~daniele 883 Fan Page...dal Canada? http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3603 Spandau Ballet Unofficial Homepage http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/7994 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Radio In The 1980s Date: 19 Mar 1998 19:01:53 -0500 (EST) Hey All! I just made some revisions to my website and the instructions I gave earlier to access my "Radio Waves Museum" have changed. Go to: http://people.delphi.com/mykec/index.htm Click on the first Acid Purple Flower you see. Then click on the little boombox icon. You can run your pointer across the images for a text description of what each icon is for, btw, fyi, xyz, abc. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: (hats) Fwd: Lexicon Date: 19 Mar 1998 20:37:54 EST << > In a message dated 98-03-19 17:01:33 EST, guerue@pop.erols.com writes: > > << Thanks! > See this is why I have to pay attention! :-) I won't mention anything. > -Dave Thank you!!! Angie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BDay0000 Subject: Re: (hats) Safety Dance Video - VH1 Date: 19 Mar 1998 21:55:55 EST Could someone post to the list all of the Pop-Ups from the video? Thanks, Brad Day Atlanta, GA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "damien.delhase" Subject: (hats) www.holdman.com is down:-((((( Date: 20 Mar 1998 11:08:28 +0100 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Damien Delhase, Le Soir en Ligne Phone: +32-2-225.53.12 112, rue Royale E-Mail: dd@lesoir.be B-1000 Brussels - Belgium Web site: www.lesoir.be ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "damien.delhase" Subject: (hats) Ok, thanks to god, it is back to life:-) Date: 20 Mar 1998 11:12:45 +0100 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Damien Delhase, Le Soir en Ligne Phone: +32-2-225.53.12 112, rue Royale E-Mail: dd@lesoir.be B-1000 Brussels - Belgium Web site: www.lesoir.be ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ralph Deiterding Subject: Re: (hats) Re:Lexicon Date: 20 Mar 1998 10:37:40 +0000 ADTooley wrote: > > We would prefer you not mention the show in your magazine, if you are talking > of the private show this summer for members of the Mailing List Only. Thanks! > Angie I can't say that I'm part of that 'we' although I am also a member of this mailing list. I don't know about other list members, but this seems a little restrictive and 'elitist' to me. Just because some fans may not yet have stubled across this list, or may not have access to e-mail, I can't see it hurting to give the show a little more promotion. I wouldn't suggest putting ads in local newspapers about the show, but slightly expanding the potential audience wouldn't be a terrible thing in my mind. Dave, I'm not sure of how many copies of your magazine go out, but I can't imagine that it would add very many people to the show. Considering that people would have to be in the Montreal area, or willing to travel great distances to see this particular show. I'm near Toronto which is about a six or seven hour drive, not that far in the big scheme of things and I haven't been able to decide whether to go or not yet myself. Could the article not mention the mailing list to get further information? Just my two cents, Ralph # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Claude Grégoire" Subject: Re: (hats) Junos "fixed" Date: 20 Mar 1998 11:48:26 -0500 Daniele Rossi a =E9crit: >=20 > I heard that "The Spell" (as in the song) is up for a Juno. Why on Ear= th is > THAT song chosen when there were others which were RELEASED AS SINGLES?= i > do not mena to sound mean, but "Open Your eyes", "Superbadgirls" and "1= 972" > are much better than "The Spell" in the category it was nominated for. All the nominations are based on what is proposed by the record industry.= If The Spell is up, it's because it's the song that was proposed by TOX reco= rd. But are you sure it is not the album that is in nomination? > Besides, the Junos are fixed anyway. Sadly... Take care Claude # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Claude Grégoire" Subject: Re: (hats) ICQ Date: 20 Mar 1998 11:53:13 -0500 ADTooley a =E9crit: >=20 > Is anybody here on ICQ? A quick reminder (hey, if Angie is not aware of that, it's unlikely she's alone in that situation). On the Who's Who on the mailing list ( http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3136/whoswho_mwh.html ) you wi= ll find the ICQ number of all hatters... Take care Claude # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) an idea (just a joke) Date: 20 Mar 1998 12:47:23 EST In a message dated 98-03-19 20:15:05 EST, daniele@interlog.com writes: > > Ok... for the performance we have CD writers, minidisc recorders, DAT > machines, an opening act or two, a DJ, someone to videotape the event, and a > Q&A segment. I say we get someone else with a video camera and....make a > movie! Abba did it, the Beatles did it, heck even the Spice Girls. > *aherm!* you DARE compare Ivan/MWH to THE SPICE GIRLS??!??!?!? *indignant glare* -C- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniele Rossi Subject: (hats) oops! Date: 20 Mar 1998 12:57:03 -0500 > > THAT song chosen when there were others which were RELEASED AS SINGLES? i >> > do not mena to sound mean, but "Open Your eyes", "Superbadgirls" and "1972" >> > are much better than "The Spell" in the category it was nominated for. >> >> I have exactly the opposite reaction- I think "The Spell" is far and away >> the best song on the album. > >Which _I_ find amusing, since IMO "Forever" is the "standout track" on the >album - nothing else really compares (closest is Open Your Eyes, with The >Spell somewhere behind that). OOPS! I did not mean to imply that "The Spell" wasn't a good song or the others I listed were better. I only meant that "The Spell" was nominated in the dance single category. I hardly refer to "The Spell" as a dance song :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Online Comic Book http://www.interlog.com/~daniele 883 Fan Page...dal Canada? http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3603 Spandau Ballet Unofficial Homepage http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/7994 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aerechui Subject: (hats) did anyone know? (II) Date: 20 Mar 1998 14:45:48 EST Subj: did anyone know? - safety dance video just wondering.... did anyone else know that the safety dance video is a representation of the typical wiccan/pagan beltane (mayday) ceremonies?- they do a parade every year in padstow, england. they have the hobby horse, Punch (played in the video by stefan, i believe), (his stick is known as "the tease or tease stick) and the morris dancers. oh yeah- and all the traditional beltane masques so many folks are wearing. and i am sure you've all long since noticed the punk rockers just hanging around in the background. just wondering if anyone knew....... Adieu aerechui. ps has anyone been able to tell what the pin on ivan's jerkin says? : ) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" Subject: (hats) NC Chapter meeting minutes Date: 20 Mar 1998 14:58:01 +0000 Hi Hatters! Wow! Trena and I just got back not too long ago from the Triangle Chapter meeting of the MWH fan club. Our special guest was of course Per-Johan Josefsson from Sweden. What an extremely sweet guy! PJ, it was sooooo nice to meet you - I hope we can get together again another time (and next time, lunch is on Trena and me!) We converged on the Chili's in Cary, and we were all immdediately identifiable to each other by our glorious MWH T-shirts. Trena and I have white shirts, and PJ's is orange. When we were seated, PJ asked the host and hostess if they could put his Collection CD on, but their sound system only did Muzak. Bummer, but it was a nice try! We confused the waiter terribly by all ordering different amounts of ice in our sodas. He asked where PJ was from, and seemed really surprised that PJ is from Sweden. Then he asked Trena where she was from (Zebulon, NC, about 1 hr away! - duh!). He didn't care where I was from, apparently. :-) PJ tried "country fried steak," which for those of you who are not familiar with southern U.S cooking, is a steak that is breaded and fried like a piece of fried chicken. I had chicken and pasta in a spicy cream sauce, and Trena had a turkey club sandwich (and I stole some of her fries). The chicken noodle soup at Chili's is very good, btw. Topics of discussion included the concert in Montreal last summer and meeting other Hatters then; meeting Ivan, Collin, Sahara, and Betty and Eugene; the various boots, particularly #s 4 and 5; and the upcoming "musical book signing." We talked about when was the first time we heard MWH (Safety Dance for all of us - Trena and PJ on the radio, me on MTV). We also talked about some of the reactions we have gotten to our Ts. PJ was at a synth festival in Stockholm, and many people there recognized the design - very heartwarming!!! I told the ambulance story again, and Trena told her story about the people in the fondue restaurant in Montreal that thought we were some kind of doomsday cult or something. Two or three people in the restaurant came up and asked us what our shirts were, and one woman thought we were with the band. OK, I have big hair, but I don't think I look the least bit like that chick in the Safety Dance video! Like the intellectual giant I am, I forgot to bring my camera, but it was PJ to the rescue! Do they have Boy Scouts in Sweden? Be prepared!! :-) We got a waiter to take some pictures of us with PJ's camera, and I really REALLY hope they come out! We also talked about pets (sort of an inescapable topic with me - btw, I know where you can get a really sweet little cat - just ask me!), US and Swedish culture, and the ineptitude of various countries' border crossing officials. PJ is really sweet and nice, and has a great sense of humor, and I hope we all get a chance to hang out together a lot in Montreal this summer. Well, that's it for the meeting minutes! Can't wait to do it again sometime!!!!!!!!! :-) Laura # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniele Rossi Subject: (hats) nomination & video question Date: 20 Mar 1998 16:58:26 -0500 >All the nominations are based on what is proposed by the record industry. If >The Spell is up, it's because it's the song that was proposed by TOX record. >But are you sure it is not the album that is in nomination? I double-checked with my friend and made sure the category was indeed single and not album. Actually, he's the one who I find out which songs of Ivan's are on promo because he is always saying "Ivan has a new song out you probably did not hear yet" and I reply saying I have the CD :) So I kept telling him "Are you sure it's for single and not album?". He had the list of nominations in his hands and under single (something like best dance single) it said "The Spell" by Ivan. He never received that on promo. Only "Open Your Eyes" and "Superbadgirls" which he did not accept!! --- I was watching the "Open Your Eyes" video today and noticed that Ivan has a tattoo on his arm. You can't see it clearly but, well might as well ask, does anyone know what it is? :) My other question about the video is is that woman (sitting beside Ivan who sings part of the backup) the VJ from MusiquePlus who is now at MuchMusic? I forgot her name. She is the one who leads Electric Circus. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Online Comic Book http://www.interlog.com/~daniele 883 Fan Page...dal Canada? http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3603 Spandau Ballet Unofficial Homepage http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/7994 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) an idea (just a joke) Date: 20 Mar 1998 17:43:07 EST In a message dated 98-03-20 16:25:48 EST, daniele@interlog.com writes: > > >> Q&A segment. I say we get someone else with a video camera and....make a > >> movie! Abba did it, the Beatles did it, heck even the Spice Girls. > >> > >*aherm!* > > > >you DARE compare Ivan/MWH to THE SPICE GIRLS??!??!?!? > > > >*indignant glare* > > > >-C- > > > > > > Actually they do bear a striking resemblance! Ivan Spice. > > (aherm...it was only a reference to groups making movies ) > > It's lunch time and I'm off to make cream of mushroom soup. :) > > Bye ! > heehee....actually i've always preferred `allspice', myself;) ttyl, -C- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJP1313 Subject: Re: (hats) NC Chapter meeting minutes Date: 20 Mar 1998 17:44:45 EST grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr............. I'm feeling really stupid right now. Ever since Laura left me a message about the NC MWH get together I'd planned on going. Even though my days are usually pretty nuts, I figured meeting at a restaurant only a 5 minute drive from my house was absolutely doable. Every day recently I thought: "Gotta go on Friday!" So what happens? I completely forgot until about 5pm, far too late. So, ... grrrrrrrrr. Maybe there'll be another meeting before I move to Chicago this summer. I hope. I really wanted to be there. -Andrew Pepoy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: (hats) I wish he'd make up his mind, eh? *???* Date: 20 Mar 1998 18:03:10 EST Hmmm..just when you think that the mystery is FINALLY clearing up...you run across something like THIS: Have you kept in touch with your two co-stars from "The Safety Dance" video? It's like there are so many videos, so many actors -- you work together for, like, one day, and that's it forever. The little guy played Og in Time Bandits, the character who turned into a pig at the end. The girl, as I recall, she was a good friend of Bananarama's. contact: http://www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_05.15.97/music/weisblott.html for the whole scoop......i imagine that most of you have already seen this, but, just in case, i thought that a few of you might get a kick out of this;) *titled: A Guy Called Ivan* ttyl, Charlotte # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nikolai81 Subject: Re: (hats) an idea (just a joke) Date: 20 Mar 1998 23:12:45 EST In a message dated 98-03-19 20:15:05 EST, daniele@interlog.com writes: > Ok... for the performance we have CD writers, minidisc recorders, DAT > machines, an opening act or two, a DJ, someone to videotape the event, and a > Q&A segment. I say we get someone else with a video camera and....make a > movie! Abba did it, the Beatles did it, heck even the Spice Girls. > > We can have it based on a bunch of mailing list members travel to Montreal > (the rest of Canada, US, even Europe!). Skits with carpooling. the huge > group of us on a rampage to all the record stores to find their CDs. Me > trying to speak French but accidentally cause some sort of unity riot. > Somehow we'll find a plot. In between, we'll have clips of Ivan's > performances at the private concert. And we'll all wear the MWH t-shirts. > Ivan went to film school didn't he? I'm sure he won't mind editing the film > and releasing it in the local theatres :) > > Actually, the film would be better if the concert was during the St. Jean > Baptiste festival. That way, we can wear blue MWH shirts and totally blend > in with the crowd! We can have cameos too. I like it! Who's in?? ;) > We can call it...um...."Ivan the movie" or "Men Without Hats--The Movie" or > "Hatworld". I like your idea, but if you call it "Hatworld", I'm coming after you. With a zucchini. Have a nice day. --Nick # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Janet Lumb Subject: (hats) Re: hats-digest V2 #43 Date: 20 Mar 1998 23:49:32 -0500 (EST) Did anyone else see Ivan performing "Open your Eyes" or "Superbadgirls" on the CTV show "Camilla Scott" it was great, during the interview he said he would be doing another MWH album..pretty interesting. LOGMAN. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nathan Shireman Subject: Re: (hats) an idea (just a joke) Date: 21 Mar 1998 08:09:01 -0500 (EST) In response to the minimovie that is being considered, I would like to give it a go, that is, if I'm even going. We should consider a Depeche Mode 101 style, with a miniplot to back it up. Nathan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nathan Shireman Subject: Re: (hats) Re:Lexicon Date: 21 Mar 1998 08:11:32 -0500 (EST) I would have to 1/2 agree with Ralph. I think that the mention of this concert would be great, that is, in Dave's magazine. However, I don't think that this concert should be open to anyone else but the hats list members. This may sound harsh, but the majority of true diehard hats fans have found this list. If you're not a true diehard hats fan, then you've probably never even tried to find as much info on hats, therefore, never stumbling upon the list. Did that make sense? Nathan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nathan Shireman Subject: Re: (hats) Re: hats-digest V2 #43 Date: 21 Mar 1998 08:24:00 -0500 (EST) I hope that you Got those live performances on tape! That would be spiffy. Did Ivan elaborate on the new MWH album idea, such as when and who? Nathan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334 Subject: (hats) Ivan's private show --- Update Date: 21 Mar 1998 11:33:25 EST Again, and again, No news good news. I spoke to Dave Byrne Tuesday. He told me EVERYTHING was in Ivan's hands. I guess he has to talk to his brothers and try to fix this show properly. AS SSSOOOOON I have any news, I'll let you know. Arvedissen Ciao Aurevoir Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rush" Subject: Re: (hats) an idea (just a joke) Date: 21 Mar 1998 14:01:53 -0600 "101"! No, I think more like "Spinal Tap" would be in order.... Cordially, Rush "To shrug." --Ayn Rand In response to the minimovie that is being considered, I would like to give it a go, that is, if I'm even going. We should consider a Depeche Mode 101 style, with a miniplot to back it up. Nathan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: Re: (hats) Re:Lexicon Date: 21 Mar 1998 16:14:44 EST In a message dated 98-03-21 16:13:38 EST, you write: << In a message dated 98-03-21 08:15:28 EST, Nathan writes: <think that this concert should be open to anyone else but the hats list >members. This may sound harsh, but the majority of true diehard hats fans >have found this list. If you're not a true diehard hats fan, then you've >probably never even tried to find as much info on hats, therefore, never >stumbling upon the list. Did that make sense?>> Sort of. I have a feeling there are a lot of diehard fans who have not discovered the internet yet. I was one of them until late last year. The reasoning behind not wanting to promote this show publicly is to keep the atmosphere intimate and relaxed. It would be nice to get the Hats list together, and our friends & family, and not have to worry about party crashers and the general public. Simple is best. Angie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nikolai81 Subject: Re: (hats) Re:Lexicon Date: 21 Mar 1998 20:52:39 EST In a message dated 98-03-21 08:15:28 EST, you write: > I would have to 1/2 agree with Ralph. I think that the mention of this > concert would be great, that is, in Dave's magazine. However, I don't > think that this concert should be open to anyone else but the hats list > members. This may sound harsh, but the majority of true diehard hats fans > have found this list. If you're not a true diehard hats fan, then you've > probably never even tried to find as much info on hats, therefore, never > stumbling upon the list. Did that make sense? I agree with your idea, but if it was restricted to us online members only, what about the Hats fans in Montreal or other Hats members who don't have internet access? (I know, "...but then how would they know about the concert, anyway?") It's just that there are still ways to get info other than the internet. I for one have forgotten them all because of the terminal in front of me but still... --Nick # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nikolai81 Subject: Re: (hats) Re:Lexicon OOPS Date: 21 Mar 1998 20:55:01 EST In a message dated 98-03-21 16:16:34 EST, ADTooley@aol.com writes: > Sort of. I have a feeling there are a lot of diehard fans who have not > discovered the internet yet. I was one of them until late last year. > > The reasoning behind not wanting to promote this show publicly is to keep > the > atmosphere intimate and relaxed. It would be nice to get the Hats list > together, > and our friends & family, and not have to worry about party crashers and the > general > public. Simple is best. > > Angie Well put! Sorry, Hatters. I guess I have to read ALL my mail before I respond to postings, huh? ;) --Nick # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniele Rossi Subject: Re: (hats) an idea (just a joke) Date: 22 Mar 1998 12:01:14 -0500 At 02:01 PM 3/21/98 -0600, you wrote: >"101"! No, I think more like "Spinal Tap" would be in order.... > >Cordially, >Rush Seeing that Barney the dinosaur has a movie out, that can be the perfect cameo! We can get Marc Durand to put on a Barney suit, give Ivan a stick..... ;) I see a scene in my mind!--- Pinata party! Background music can be "Pop Goes The World". -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Online Comic Book http://www.interlog.com/~daniele 883 Fan Page...dal Canada? http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3603 Spandau Ballet Unofficial Homepage http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/7994 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Claude Grégoire" Subject: Re: (hats) Re:Lexicon Date: 22 Mar 1998 13:02:52 -0500 Nathan Shireman a =E9crit: >=20 > I don't > think that this concert should be open to anyone else but the hats list > members. This may sound harsh, but the majority of true diehard hats f= ans > have found this list. If you're not a true diehard hats fan, then you'= ve > probably never even tried to find as much info on hats, therefore, neve= r > stumbling upon the list. Did that make sense? Yes, except for at least 90% of the perfectly legit true diehard hats fan= who don't have access to internet. Talk about elitism! And I guess it would b= e bad for Ivan to have to many fans attending the concert... Claude # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rush" Subject: (hats) Public show, NOT Date: 22 Mar 1998 12:20:12 -0600 Folks, we aren't a gov't organization with a mandate to be *fair* and *PC*, here. We are organizing a concert we want to go to. Simple as that. If Ivan wanted to tour again as Mw/oH, he can, those 90% diehard fans can see him then. Worry not about what other people are doing, worry about yourself. Besides, Francis has demonstrated his leadership in this, I'm sure this discussion is null and void. I AM being elitist: I couldn't care less about the others, and I don't want them there. For the first time, a concert along the lines of "An Evening With [insert band name here]" will be just that: quiet and intimate. No following star to hotel, no freezing at stage entrance, nothing, no fighting to sneak backstage. If we are being elitist, and you don't like it, it is the same as that whole boot discussion: don't buy one, don't go to the concert. 'Nuff said. Cordially, Rush "To shrug." --Ayn Rand -----Original Message----- Yes, except for at least 90% of the perfectly legit true diehard hats fan who don't have access to internet. Talk about elitism! And I guess it would be bad for Ivan to have to many fans attending the concert... Claude # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Subject: (hats) Lexicon, Ivan, Date: 22 Mar 1998 14:44:55 -0500 Hi, Sorry to cause a commotion about all of this. I am not going to mention the concert in the next issue. However, it would be nice to have a review of the show should it go on. If there is anyone out there who would like to see their stuff in print you can email me a review. I hope the show does come off as planned. -Dave Richards Managing Editor Lexicon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kajjia Gorian" Subject: (hats) QQ... Date: 22 Mar 1998 11:42:56 -0800 Quick question folks...what does "O Sole Mio" mean? Aaron Gitlin http://kajjia.home.ml.org http://menwohats.home.ml.org Security, everyone feels better with... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Claude Grégoire" Subject: Re: (hats) Public show, NOT Date: 22 Mar 1998 15:02:53 -0500 Rush a =E9crit: >=20 > Folks, we aren't a gov't organization with a mandate to be *fair* and *= PC*, > here. We are organizing a concert we want to go to. Simple as that. = If > Ivan wanted to tour again as Mw/oH, he can, those 90% diehard fans can = see > him then. Worry not about what other people are doing, worry about > yourself. Besides, Francis has demonstrated his leadership in this, I'= m > sure this discussion is null and void. I AM being elitist: I couldn't= care > less about the others, and I don't want them there. For the first time= , a > concert along the lines of "An Evening With [insert band name here]" wi= ll be > just that: quiet and intimate. No following star to hotel, no freezing= at > stage entrance, nothing, no fighting to sneak backstage. If we are bei= ng > elitist, and you don't like it, it is the same as that whole boot > discussion: don't buy one, don't go to the concert. 'Nuff said. I sincerely hope you are not the typical MWH fan. That would be extremly = sad. I know we aren't a gov't organization with a mandate to be *fair* and *PC= *. That doesn't mean we have to act like assholes... Claude # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: X Subject: (hats) rush-relax! Date: 22 Mar 1998 15:08:02 -0500 (EST) MAKE IT PUBLIC !!! LETS KEEP THE VENUE SMALL AND INTIMATE- AND PACK IT WITH FANS ! (LIST OR NO LIST) CLAUDE WRITES: Yes, except for at least 90% of the perfectly legit true diehard hats fans who don't have access to internet. Talk about elitism! I AGREE Rush writes... you don't like it, ............. don't go to the concert. ?????!!!!???????? Im happy to say that rush is NOT speaking on my behalf. Wolfgang Wolfgang # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cpisarr1@ic3.ithaca.edu Subject: Re: (hats) VH1 PICTURES!!! Date: 22 Mar 1998 18:36:42 -0500 (EST) Eric, You said that you had the VH1 picts. on the internet but my internet viewer can't view them. Anybody else have this problem? COllin ****************************** MAY THIS E-MAIL SUCCEED WHY THE E-MAILS OF MY FRIENDS FAIL..YET MAY I ALWAYS BE PERCEIVED AS A TEAM PLAYER *********** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniele Rossi Subject: Re: (hats) QQ... Date: 22 Mar 1998 18:44:42 -0500 At 11:42 AM 3/22/98 -0800, you wrote: > >Quick question folks...what does "O Sole Mio" mean? Literally translated from Italian is "Or my sun". Not literally translated would be "Oh my sun". -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Online Comic Book http://www.interlog.com/~daniele 883 Fan Page...dal Canada? http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3603 Spandau Ballet Unofficial Homepage http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/7994 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cpisarr1@ic3.ithaca.edu Subject: Re: (hats) Re: hats-digest V2 #43 Date: 22 Mar 1998 18:45:37 -0500 (EST) Janet said: Did anyone else see Ivan performing "Open your Eyes" or "Superbadgirls" on ...Ivan said he was going to do another MWH album. Collin asks: Did anybody tape this? Collin ****************************** MAY THIS E-MAIL SUCCEED WHY THE E-MAILS OF MY FRIENDS FAIL..YET MAY I ALWAYS BE PERCEIVED AS A TEAM PLAYER *********** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cpisarr1@ic3.ithaca.edu Subject: Re: (hats) QQ... Date: 22 Mar 1998 18:50:58 -0500 (EST) I thought "O Sole Mio" meant Oh, Lonely me! Collin at Ithaca ****************************** MAY THIS E-MAIL SUCCEED WHY THE E-MAILS OF MY FRIENDS FAIL..YET MAY I ALWAYS BE PERCEIVED AS A TEAM PLAYER *********** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: Re: (hats) QQ... Date: 22 Mar 1998 19:02:01 EST In a message dated 98-03-22 18:55:14 EST, Collin write: << I thought "O Sole Mio" meant Oh, Lonely me! Collin at Ithaca >> That's what *I* thought! Angie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kajjia Gorian" Subject: (hats) O Sole Mio Date: 22 Mar 1998 16:15:53 -0800 Thanks all for your help, but what is it? Or my sun, or Oh lonely me? Oh lonely me would make more sense, however, I would still like to be sure. Catch ya latez! Aaron Gitlin http://kajjia.home.ml.org http://menwohats.home.ml.org Security, everyone feels better with... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) Re:Lexicon Date: 22 Mar 1998 19:29:43 EST In a message dated 98-03-21 16:16:34 EST, ADTooley@aol.com writes: > > Sort of. I have a feeling there are a lot of diehard fans who have not > discovered the internet yet. I was one of them until late last year. > > The reasoning behind not wanting to promote this show publicly is to keep > the > atmosphere intimate and relaxed. It would be nice to get the Hats list > together, > and our friends & family, and not have to worry about party crashers and the > general > public. Simple is best. > > Angie > i agree...ultimately, WE (ie: the LIST!) are the ones making this happen, with the primary purpose being a show for LIST users, and their respective others/family/friends/etc. as a small, intimate thank you for Ivan & co. ... to give the general public knowledge of/ access to this event would only make it into a circus...something i believe that ALL parties involved would like to avoid at all costs.... my $0.02, with some change ;) Charlotte # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniele Rossi Subject: Re: (hats) O Sole Mio Date: 22 Mar 1998 19:37:13 -0500 >Thanks all for your help, but what is it? Or my sun, or Oh lonely me? Oh >lonely me would make more sense, however, I would still like to be sure. >Catch ya latez! > Good thing I'm still online :) It's "Oh My Sun". -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Online Comic Book http://www.interlog.com/~daniele 883 Fan Page...dal Canada? http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3603 Spandau Ballet Unofficial Homepage http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/7994 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) an idea (just a joke) Date: 22 Mar 1998 19:33:29 EST In a message dated 98-03-22 11:58:00 EST, daniele@interlog.com writes: > > > Seeing that Barney the dinosaur has a movie out, that can be the perfect > cameo! We can get Marc Durand to put on a Barney suit, give Ivan a > stick..... ;) I see a scene in my mind!--- Pinata party! Background music > can be "Pop Goes The World". > first you're comparing this to the Spice girls...now BARNEY??!?!??!??!? may i be the first to burn you at the stake, pal;) -C- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) Lexicon, Ivan, Date: 22 Mar 1998 19:38:39 EST In a message dated 98-03-22 14:44:47 EST, guerue@erols.com writes: > > Hi, > Sorry to cause a commotion about all of this. I am not going to mention > the concert in the next issue. However, it would be nice to have a > review of the show should it go on. If there is anyone out there who > would like to see their stuff in print you can email me a review. I > hope the show does come off as planned. > -Dave Richards > Managing Editor > Lexicon > publishing the results of the concert, the related carnage and the ensuing aftermath *ah, the HORROR!*, shouldn't be a problem...just don't promote the darn thing, eh? ;) -C- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fehnnik Foxtaur Subject: (hats) Greatest Hats Date: 22 Mar 1998 17:51:03 -0700 I was wondering if any of the Canadian list members would be willing to lend me a hand in getting a copy of the "Greatest Hats" CD? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Avi" Subject: Re: (hats) rush-relax! Date: 22 Mar 1998 22:57:14 -0500 Rush Do Not Relax !!!!!!!! I Agree with you 100% the people on this list have waited a long time for this concert. I for one would hate to get all the way to Montreal from Florida and have the best seats taken by some enterprising scalper that heard about this concert because it went public. all of us on the list have friends who may not have computers but are still die hard fans of MWH, if you would like to bring them along fine... but to make this very special event a public one, would undermine all of the effort that went into it to begin with. Avi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rush" Subject: Re: (hats) rush-relax! Date: 22 Mar 1998 23:30:39 -0600 No kidding. I see the ticket brokers in Chicago on almost a daily basis, and they would LOVE a thing like this, they would scarf up the tickets and gouge the hell out of the truly loyal fans. I didn't even think to bring this up. Boy would some of the regulars on this list be ticked if they couldn't get tickets or had to pay $200.00 for them. Cordially, Rush "To shrug." --Ayn Rand Rush Do Not Relax ! the people on this list have waited a long time for this concert. I for one would hate to get all the way to Montreal from Florida and have the best seats taken by some enterprising scalper that heard about this concert because it went public. Avi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric W. Soderblom" Subject: (hats) POP UP VIDEO PICS Date: 22 Mar 1998 23:21:33 -0800 Hatters- I converted the Pop-Up Video pics from Bitmaps to Gifs. They now download quicker and straight to your browser. They are at http://home.earthlink.net/~soderblom/vh1.html. Eric Soderblom soderblom@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~soderblom # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Claude Grégoire" Subject: (hats) some clarifications Date: 23 Mar 1998 02:38:34 -0500 Rush a =E9crit: >=20 > No kidding. I see the ticket brokers in Chicago on almost a daily basi= s, > and they would LOVE a thing like this, they would scarf up the tickets = and > gouge the hell out of the truly loyal fans. I didn't even think to bri= ng > this up. Boy would some of the regulars on this list be ticked if they > couldn't get tickets or had to pay $200.00 for them. Avi a =E9crit: >=20 > Rush Do Not Relax ! > the people on this list have waited a long time for this concert. = I for > one > would hate to get all the way to Montreal from Florida and have the= best > seats taken by some enterprising scalper that heard about this conc= ert > because it went public. With your permission Francis, I would like to clarify some things for our mixed friends here; First we are looking for a small venue. The show will= be VERY INTIMATE (even if it is publicized to death). Second, the seats are = not numbered, all the seats are GOOD (the venue being quite small). Last, no "scalpers" will have access to those tickets. Tickets will be sold to fan= s. Priority (obviously) to the mailing list, then to general public. And we = won't sell more tickets than there are available seats! Now, don't relax if you want Claude (le m=E9n=E9e dans l'eau chaude) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: Re: (hats) POP UP VIDEO PICS Date: 23 Mar 1998 07:14:23 EST In a message dated 98-03-23 02:23:37 EST, you write: << Hatters- I converted the Pop-Up Video pics from Bitmaps to Gifs. They now download quicker and straight to your browser. They are at http://home.earthlink.net/~soderblom/vh1.html. Eric Soderblom soderblom@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~soderblom >> Nice job --- I think every single pop-up is in there! Now give us some really nice pictures for wallpaper!!!!! Angie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Norman" Subject: (hats) concert Date: 23 Mar 1998 09:02:17 -0500 Hello everyone, Man what a flame war this list has become! We should all just leave it up to Francis and calm down. And we should thank Angie for getting the wheels rolling in the very beginning and just leave it at that. Our motivation should be -- "make it to the show". I can't understand why everyone would waste their time worrying about -- Who gets the credit for putting this together. who cares? I think the only way to win is to make it to the show, right? None of us will make it to the show if we bother Francis with complicated details, until he just gives up trying. We should let ONE person worry about it and leave it at that. 2,3,4, or 5 people trying to give their opinions will just make it that harder for Francis to cut a deal. And remember...... Hugo and Ivan read messages off this list from time to time.... just an opinion..... Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" Subject: Re: (hats) nomination & video question Date: 23 Mar 1998 09:06:27 +0000 Hi Hatters! Daniele said . . . > . . . Ivan has a tattoo on his arm. . .. does anyone know what > it is? :) It's the symbol for Libra, Ivan's horoscope sign. Does anyone know the outcome of the Juno awards? T-shirts are ordered and should be ready by the 1st of April! L8R, T8Rs! :-) Laura # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Norman" Subject: (hats) boots 6,7,8 Date: 23 Mar 1998 09:15:58 -0500 Good news......... Mr. Somebody2 is nearly finished remastering boots 6 & 7. He said that I should have them by the end of the month. Now I realize that everyone will want one of these. The only question is : who will be able to mass duplicate these when they are ready? Richard Holdman, Are you burned out yet? (excuse the pun). If not, I am prepared to get you a set the very same day that I receive them. I will be willing to pay for your set if you can find the time to continue your good work for the list. Russ Kemsley, You may need to take over for Richard at this point. Richard did do like 80 sets for us. If both of you guys are too busy, then I will try and make as many sets as I can with my slow 2X CD burner. Now for CD#8: This is the Lee's Palace Ivan concert from 1997. ITs NOT the Duran Duran show. I have heard the Duran Duran/IVAN tape and this sounds much better. It is NOT the same guy that taped the Ivan/Duran show. Although, it does sound 10X better than the Duran tape, the quality is still not CD quality like the other boots. I am going to send Richard a CD#8 so that he can upload it to his MP3 site. Then you can all download the tracks as see if it sounds good or not. Then perhaps Richard can burn those too, or maybe Russ, it all depends. Now for the big news: What is on CDs 6&7? Direct Soundboard recordings of 2 1984 complete concerts. The quality varies from good (ROY live quality) to a little hissy depending on which part of the cassette is playing onto the CD. Some parts of the cassette sound better than any other hats concert. Remember this is 1st generation cassette deck hooked directly into one of the hats keyboards, its their tape for God's sake. I will post the tracklisting next. Richard and Russ, please e-mail me soon so we can decide who will do what etc etc etc. :-) Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Norman" Subject: (hats) boots tracklisting Date: 23 Mar 1998 09:22:33 -0500 CD#6 Men Without Hats - Live Edmonton, Alberta August 27, 1984 1. Freeways 2. Antarctica 3. Ban the Game 4. Living In China 5. I Know Their Name 6. Messiahs Die Young 7. Ideas For Walls 8. Eurotheme 9. Things In my Life 10. I Like 11. Safety Dance 12. I got the message (cut off) 13. Where Do the Boys Go? 14. Editions of You 15. Moderne Dancing CD#7 Men Without Hats - Live in Washington, DC date unknown but same leg of tour 1. Utter Space 2. Antarctica 3. Ban the Game 4. Living In China 5. I know their name 6. Messiahs Die Young 7. Ideas For Walls 8. Eurotheme 9. Things In My life 10. Where Do the Boys Go? 11. Safety Dance 12. Mother's Opinion 13. Unsatisfaction 14. I got the message 15. Security 16. Moderne Dancing 16 tracks - no breaks. The longest complete show recorded possibly. :-) Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Norman" Subject: (hats) Ivan NXNE live CD#8 Date: 23 Mar 1998 09:26:06 -0500 CD#8 Ivan - N X NE 1997 1st gen audience recording - Lee's Palace Toronto - North by Northeast Festival June 14, 1997 1. WWW 2. Superbadgirls 3. Open Your Eyes 4. 1972 5. The Spell 6. Wonderwall 7. I Feel Love 8. Pop Goes the World 9. Safety Dance As you can see this is not the same cassette that has been going around the list. This one sounds 10X better. Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniele Rossi Subject: (hats) on second thought Date: 23 Mar 1998 11:37:46 -0500 I've thought about it and Avi is right. It is best if we keep this private concert a secret among ourselves and our fellow internet-less hats fans. I wouldn't want a scalper taking seats from us, or perhaps the media getting in the way. Besides, now that Francis has told us that it is Ivan's decision now, if he prefers a public concert, I'm sure we won't mind at all. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Online Comic Book http://www.interlog.com/~daniele 883 Fan Page...dal Canada? http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3603 Spandau Ballet Unofficial Homepage http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/7994 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniele Rossi Subject: (hats) how do we get tickets? Date: 23 Mar 1998 11:38:00 -0500 Here is something I thought of. How do we get tickets? One way is by mail I guess, but what it they get lost or don't arrive on time? Picking them up at the venue? FedEx? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Online Comic Book http://www.interlog.com/~daniele 883 Fan Page...dal Canada? http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3603 Spandau Ballet Unofficial Homepage http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/7994 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rush" Subject: Re: (hats) some clarifications Date: 23 Mar 1998 10:49:55 -0600 Claude, if a ticket company is used (like Ticketmaster in the US), not only will the brokers have access to the tickets, they will have access to the vast majority of them. Example, the Stones are playing their final show in the United Center in Chicago on Apr. 23. 23,000 tickets were sold in less than eight minutes when they went on sale at 10am. Why? Because only about 4,000 tickets were actually sold to fans. The rest were gone before they went on sale. If we get priority, and the venue is tiny, then no problem, but then once again, this point is moot, we can promote it all we want and it won't matter. It's only the list that is going. Cordially, Rush "To shrug." --Ayn Rand -----Original Message----- From: Claude Grégoire > No kidding. I see the ticket brokers in Chicago on almost a daily basis, > and they would LOVE a thing like this, they would scarf up the tickets and > gouge the hell out of the truly loyal fans. I didn't even think to bring > this up. Boy would some of the regulars on this list be ticked if they > couldn't get tickets or had to pay $200.00 for them. With your permission Francis, I would like to clarify some things for our mixed friends here; First we are looking for a small venue. The show will be VERY INTIMATE (even if it is publicized to death). Second, the seats are not numbered, all the seats are GOOD (the venue being quite small). Last, no "scalpers" will have access to those tickets. Tickets will be sold to fans. Priority (obviously) to the mailing list, then to general public. And we won't sell more tickets than there are available seats! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Claude Grégoire" Subject: Re: (hats) some clarifications Date: 23 Mar 1998 12:13:53 -0500 Rush a =E9crit: >=20 > Claude, if a ticket company is used (like Ticketmaster in the US), not = only > will the brokers have access to the tickets, they will have access to t= he > vast majority of them. Nobody ever mentioned a ticket company! Where did you get that idea? (or = maybe you're refering to someone else's post I was not aware of). > If we get priority, and the venue is tiny, then no problem, but the= n > once again, this point is moot, we can promote it all we want and it wo= n't > matter. It's only the list that is going. If you say so... We'll just watch and see ;o) Take care Claude # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) some clarifications Date: 23 Mar 1998 15:05:34 EST In a message dated 98-03-23 02:46:19 EST, gigarpus@videotron.ca writes: > > With your permission Francis, I would like to clarify some things for our > mixed friends here; First we are looking for a small venue. The show will be > VERY INTIMATE (even if it is publicized to death). Second, the seats are not > numbered, all the seats are GOOD (the venue being quite small). Last, no > "scalpers" will have access to those tickets. Tickets will be sold to fans. > Priority (obviously) to the mailing list, then to general public. And we won' > t > sell more tickets than there are available seats! > > Now, don't relax if you want > > Claude (le ménée dans l'eau chaude) > hi:) claude, scalpers are not always the easiest of people to spot, or control.... i say let's not tempt fate (ie: publicize this) ttyl, -c- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) concert Date: 23 Mar 1998 15:10:26 EST In a message dated 98-03-23 09:02:39 EST, tnorman@mail.netwalk.com writes: > Hello everyone, > > Man what a flame war this list has become! > We should all just leave it up to Francis and calm down. And we should > thank Angie for getting the wheels rolling in the very beginning and just > leave it at that. > Our motivation should be -- "make it to the show". > I can't understand why everyone would waste their time worrying about -- > Who gets the credit for putting this together. who cares? > I think the only way to win is to make it to the show, right? > None of us will make it to the show if we bother Francis with complicated > details, until he just gives up trying. We should let ONE person worry > about it and leave it at that. 2,3,4, or 5 people trying to give their > opinions will just make it that harder for Francis to cut a deal. > > And remember...... > > Hugo and Ivan read messages off this list from time to time.... > > just an opinion..... > > Tom > tnorman@mail.netwalk.com > > > uh...tom...i don't think that the current dispute is about who's in charge of this show...that is not the isssue right now...the topic of discussion is deciding whether or not to make this a public (instead of a private) event..... :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Woodrow W. Zenfell, III" Subject: (hats) Amateurs concert recording Date: 23 Mar 1998 14:13:25 -0600 (CST) Well, I reviewed the recording of Forever from Saturday's concert, and I wasn't very impressed. The singing was fairly sloppy overall, the soloist was not particularly outstanding, and the tenor and bass can hardly be heard on the recording. Nonetheless, if anyone really wants me to try to get a copy of the Forever performance out there, I will do so. Let me know if you do. Take care, Woody # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric W. Soderblom" Subject: (hats) Show Date: 23 Mar 1998 12:19:59 -0800 OK, I have been sitting on the sidelines about this whole thing, and I have to put in my 2 cents. Despite the fact that myself and everyone else on this list would DIE for tickets to the show, doesn't mean that the whole world will be clamoring for them. This isn't U2 or the Stones people. Lets be realistic. I don't see any problem publicizing the show a little bit. And let Francis deal with it and if he wants help, he will solicit it. It seems as if everyone is a 'wannabe' concert promoter all of a sudden. Eric Soderblom soderblom@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~soderblom # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Norman" Subject: Re: (hats) concert Date: 23 Mar 1998 15:45:14 -0500 ---------- > From: HarpiChick > To: tnorman@mail.netwalk.com; hats@xmission.com > Subject: Re: (hats) concert > Date: Monday, March 23, 1998 3:10 PM > > > In a message dated 98-03-23 09:02:39 EST, tnorman@mail.netwalk.com writes: > > > Hello everyone, > > > > Man what a flame war this list has become! > > We should all just leave it up to Francis and calm down. And we should > > thank Angie for getting the wheels rolling in the very beginning and just > > leave it at that. > > Our motivation should be -- "make it to the show". > > I can't understand why everyone would waste their time worrying about -- > > Who gets the credit for putting this together. who cares? > > I think the only way to win is to make it to the show, right? > > None of us will make it to the show if we bother Francis with complicated > > details, until he just gives up trying. We should let ONE person worry > > about it and leave it at that. 2,3,4, or 5 people trying to give their > > opinions will just make it that harder for Francis to cut a deal. > > > > And remember...... > > > > Hugo and Ivan read messages off this list from time to time.... > > > > just an opinion..... > > > > Tom > > tnorman@mail.netwalk.com > > > > > > > uh...tom...i don't think that the current dispute is about who's in charge of > this show...that is not the isssue right now...the topic of discussion is > deciding whether or not to make this a public (instead of a private) > event..... > > :) True, Hmmmm. Concerning this new issue, I will sit on the sidelines and watch. Perhaps we should ask Francis what his opinon is? Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) Show Date: 23 Mar 1998 16:38:35 EST In a message dated 98-03-23 15:23:34 EST, soderblom@earthlink.net writes: > > > OK, > I have been sitting on the sidelines about this whole thing, and I have to > put in my 2 cents. Despite the fact that myself and everyone else on this > list would DIE for tickets to the show, doesn't mean that the whole world > will be clamoring for them. This isn't U2 or the Stones people. Lets be > realistic. I don't see any problem publicizing the show a little bit. And > let Francis deal with it and if he wants help, he will solicit it. It seems > as if everyone is a 'wannabe' concert promoter all of a sudden. > > Eric Soderblom > *dusting off soapbox* all-RIGHTY, then..... okie..yes, eric i realize that this is not an event of MAMMOTH proportions to most humanoids (though it is to ME!); but then let me ask you, what purpose would publicizing the show bring?...if this is a closed affair, wouldn't that have the equivilent of thumbing our noses (ie: conveying an expression of the very sort of `eliteism' (sp) that has been brought up with much disdain in recent emailings?) at the masses....and if this winds up being a public affair, even though you may feel that there may not be such a demand for the tickets outside of the list, what if there IS? claude himself said that the majority of the group's fanbase isn't even ON the list... secondly...i myself am not questioning francis & co.'s handling of the booking of this show....he is wise enough to realise that part of the final decision is to be as much of a democratic `coming-to-terms' among the list members as a WHOLE (perhaps casting a vote, beingst this is turning into such a heated debate) and, as far as i can see, that is exactly what is being discussed....nowhere do i see anything about anyone considering assumption of control over the arrangements or implying that they can do a better job...francis himself has stated that he would like plenty of input, as he wants to book something that is to the satisfaction of the list members; welp, he's getting it:) finally, as one of the individuals who will most likely be forking out a decent sum towards the initial deposit/arrangements (for the record, this is NOT cast in stone, yet, but i am being prepared for such a request) i certainly would appreciate being able express my opinions/wishes re; this fete...this does NOT, however, make me blind as to what my fellow listmembers wishes are re: this matter..i may not be quite as vehement (sp) as some re: the publicity/accessibility of tickets to this show, but i would like to be able to state my viewpoints just the same, in a rational, nonthreatening and constructive manner :) *may i have a drink of water, now?* Charlotte # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) Show Date: 23 Mar 1998 16:57:24 EST In a message dated 98-03-23 16:46:29 EST, HarpiChick@aol.com writes: > > finally, as one of the individuals who will most likely be forking out a > decent sum towards the initial deposit/arrangements (for the record, this is > NOT cast in stone, yet, but i am being prepared for such a request) i am taking no chances and nipping this in the bud before anyone else gets a chance to jump on this...the above statement is in no way, shape or form implied or intended to mislead the reader(s) to thinking that i assume that anyone involved in the initial monetary arrangements have any precedence or importance over others who are not.... hopefully i have cleared that up before it bites me on the butt;) thanks again, Charlotte # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Everybody's talkin' 'bout elitism, (ism, ism, ism) Date: 23 Mar 1998 17:31:58 -0500 (EST) All we are saying is let 'em eat cake! :-) Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin McLeod" Subject: (hats) Juno Awards and more... Date: 23 Mar 1998 14:48:05 PST Now, I could have missed something but I don't think so... but has anyone commented about last nights Juno Awards? Ivan didn't win. The nominees for Best Dance Song weren't even mentioned on the air. At the end of the broadcast, there was a listing of "awards given out earlier in the evening". Best Dance Song went to "Euphoria(Firefly) (Rabbit in the Moon remix)" by Delerium. For anyone who might be interested, Delirium is a side project of the fairly-well-know Canadian group FrontLine Assembly. Good stuff, but I would rather have seen Ivan win. I didn't see him in any of the audience shots they did either... so I don't know if he was even there. Also, I recall someone mentioning that Ivan's performance in Toronto a few weeks ago was a part of "Canadian Music Week". Tomorrow night on Muchmusic, "The New Music" show is doing a segment on the "Canadian Music Week" concerts that took place. They didn't show Ivan in the commercial, but they might show a clip or something.... I think The New Music airs at 9 PM (eastern). That's all! Colin :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: (hats) Public or Private? Date: 23 Mar 1998 17:55:55 EST All I can say about this public/private debate is: I wish Ivan himself would let us know what HE wants so it would be a decision made by *him* since this is *his* show!!!!! That's all. That decision should be left up to Ivan so we'll see what he wants when he gets back to us about the show. Angie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) Public or Private? Date: 23 Mar 1998 18:27:49 EST In a message dated 98-03-23 17:58:30 EST, ADTooley@aol.com writes: > > All I can say about this public/private debate is: > > I wish Ivan himself would let us know what HE wants so it would be a > decision > made by *him* since this is *his* show!!!!! > > That's all. > > That decision should be left up to Ivan so we'll see what he wants when he > gets back to us about the show. > > Angie > that would true enough, angie....i have mixed feelings re: that statement, but i have to at least respect it :/ *lightbulb flashing o'er head* if i recall correctly, francis made the mention of the possibility of a second show...... here's a thought.......if booked,why not give the SECOND show the option for a public event? i am not saying this to dictate; just to bring to light another possibility that may serve to solve one or more of the dilemnas that have been discussed.... -C- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: Re: (hats) Show Date: 23 Mar 1998 19:44:06 EST On 3/23/98, Charlotte wrote: <> These are some good points ... insurance, legalities, extra ticket sales, extra footwork, more headaches --- Originally my vision was that of a small, intimate show with the members of the list, their family/friends, and the band, not a full-fledged public show. I want to keep it simple, I really do. Too much complexity will spoil the whole thing. All the bickering going on lately within the list attests to that! Angie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Let Ivan decide... Date: 23 Mar 1998 18:04:39 -0500 (EST) Yes, Angie, I believe you are correct. It is proper that Ivan should be allowed to decide. Myke P.S. And should Ivan decide for "private" over "public" - who among us should then be the first to cry "Elite!"? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aerechui Subject: (hats) re show- chain reaction Date: 23 Mar 1998 21:45:27 EST goin thru your world like a chain reaction........ please take a few moments to read what some of us have written, and what all of us read when we check our mailboxes: <think that this concert should be open to anyone else but the hats list >members. This may sound harsh, but the majority of true diehard hats fans >have found this list. If you're not a true diehard hats fan, then you've >probably never even tried to find as much info on hats, therefore, never >stumbling upon the list. Did that make sense?>> him then. Worry not about what other people are doing, worry about yourself. Besides, Francis has demonstrated his leadership in this, I'm sure this discussion is null and void. I AM being elitist: I couldn't care less about the others, and I don't want them there. For the first time, a concert along the lines of "An Evening With [insert band name here]" will be just that: quiet and intimate. No following star to hotel, no freezing at stage entrance, nothing, no fighting to sneak backstage. If we are being elitist, and you don't like it, it is the same as that whole boot discussion: don't buy one, don't go to the concert. 'Nuff said. Cordially, Rush publishing the results of the concert, the related carnage and the ensuing aftermath *ah, the HORROR!*, shouldn't be a problem...just don't promote the darn thing, eh? ;) -C- uh...tom...i don't think that the current dispute is about who's in charge of this show...that is not the isssue right now...the topic of discussion is deciding whether or not to make this a public (instead of a private) event..... *dusting off soapbox* all-RIGHTY, then..... okie..yes, eric i realize that this is not an event of MAMMOTH proportions to most humanoids (though it is to ME!); but then let me ask you, what purpose would publicizing the show bring?...if this is a closed affair, wouldn't that have the equivilent of thumbing our noses (ie: conveying an expression of the very sort of `eliteism' (sp) that has been brought up with much disdain in recent emailings?) at the masses....and if this winds up being a public affair, even though you may feel that there may not be such a demand for the tickets outside of the list, what if there IS? claude himself said that the majority of the group's fanbase isn't even ON the list... secondly...i myself am not questioning francis & co.'s handling of the booking of this show....he is wise enough to realise that part of the final decision is to be as much of a democratic `coming-to-terms' among the list members as a WHOLE (perhaps casting a vote, beingst this is turning into such a heated debate) and, as far as i can see, that is exactly what is being discussed....nowhere do i see anything about anyone considering assumption of control over the arrangements or implying that they can do a better job...francis himself has stated that he would like plenty of input, as he wants to book something that is to the satisfaction of the list members; welp, he's getting it:) finally, as one of the individuals who will most likely be forking out a decent sum towards the initial deposit/arrangements (for the record, this is NOT cast in stone, yet, but i am being prepared for such a request) i certainly would appreciate being able express my opinions/wishes re; this fete...this does NOT, however, make me blind as to what my fellow listmembers wishes are re: this matter..i may not be quite as vehement (sp) as some re: the publicity/accessibility of tickets to this show, but i would like to be able to state my viewpoints just the same, in a rational, nonthreatening and constructive manner :) *may i have a drink of water, now?* Charlotte OK, I have been sitting on the sidelines about this whole thing, and I have to put in my 2 cents. Despite the fact that myself and everyone else on this list would DIE for tickets to the show, doesn't mean that the whole world will be clamoring for them. This isn't U2 or the Stones people. Lets be realistic. I don't see any problem publicizing the show a little bit. And let Francis deal with it and if he wants help, he will solicit it. It seems as if everyone is a 'wannabe' concert promoter all of a sudden. > These are some good points ... insurance, legalities, extra ticket sales, extra footwork, more headaches --- Originally my vision was that of a small, intimate show with the members of the list, their family/friends, and the band, not a full-fledged public show. I want to keep it simple, I really do. Too much complexity will spoil the whole thing. All the bickering going on lately within the list attests to that! Angie all in response to this innocent honest question: Hi, Please forgive my utter ignorance here. I am in the process of putting together the next issue of LExicon mag and I seem to recall that there is going to be some sort of show by Ivan soon. Can anyone fill me in on this? I know I should have been reading the postings, but simply have not had the time. I would love tomention it in the next issue (or if it has already happened maybe someone has a quick review?) Thanks -Dave Richards PS- Any one seen Spins Top 42 Altrenative Novelty Hits? Safety Dance is in there. and here is the poor fellows response: Sorry to cause a commotion about all of this. I am not going to mention the concert in the next issue. However, it would be nice to have a review of the show should it go on. If there is anyone out there who would like to see their stuff in print you can email me a review. I hope the show does come off as planned. -Dave Richards Managing Editor Lexicon maybe now you see...... goin' thru your world like a chain reaction........ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aerechui Subject: (hats) re- show chain reaction Date: 23 Mar 1998 21:50:03 EST Subj: re show- chain reaction hats@xmission.com goin thru your world like a chain reaction........ please take a few moments to read what some of us have written, and what all of us read when we check our mailboxes: <think that this concert should be open to anyone else but the hats list >members. This may sound harsh, but the majority of true diehard hats fans >have found this list. If you're not a true diehard hats fan, then you've >probably never even tried to find as much info on hats, therefore, never >stumbling upon the list. Did that make sense?>> him then. Worry not about what other people are doing, worry about yourself. Besides, Francis has demonstrated his leadership in this, I'm sure this discussion is null and void. I AM being elitist: I couldn't care less about the others, and I don't want them there. For the first time, a concert along the lines of "An Evening With [insert band name here]" will be just that: quiet and intimate. No following star to hotel, no freezing at stage entrance, nothing, no fighting to sneak backstage. If we are being elitist, and you don't like it, it is the same as that whole boot discussion: don't buy one, don't go to the concert. 'Nuff said. Cordially, Rush publishing the results of the concert, the related carnage and the ensuing aftermath *ah, the HORROR!*, shouldn't be a problem...just don't promote the darn thing, eh? ;) -C- uh...tom...i don't think that the current dispute is about who's in charge of this show...that is not the isssue right now...the topic of discussion is deciding whether or not to make this a public (instead of a private) event..... *dusting off soapbox* all-RIGHTY, then..... okie..yes, eric i realize that this is not an event of MAMMOTH proportions to most humanoids (though it is to ME!); but then let me ask you, what purpose would publicizing the show bring?...if this is a closed affair, wouldn't that have the equivilent of thumbing our noses (ie: conveying an expression of the very sort of `eliteism' (sp) that has been brought up with much disdain in recent emailings?) at the masses....and if this winds up being a public affair, even though you may feel that there may not be such a demand for the tickets outside of the list, what if there IS? claude himself said that the majority of the group's fanbase isn't even ON the list... secondly...i myself am not questioning francis & co.'s handling of the booking of this show....he is wise enough to realise that part of the final decision is to be as much of a democratic `coming-to-terms' among the list members as a WHOLE (perhaps casting a vote, beingst this is turning into such a heated debate) and, as far as i can see, that is exactly what is being discussed....nowhere do i see anything about anyone considering assumption of control over the arrangements or implying that they can do a better job...francis himself has stated that he would like plenty of input, as he wants to book something that is to the satisfaction of the list members; welp, he's getting it:) finally, as one of the individuals who will most likely be forking out a decent sum towards the initial deposit/arrangements (for the record, this is NOT cast in stone, yet, but i am being prepared for such a request) i certainly would appreciate being able express my opinions/wishes re; this fete...this does NOT, however, make me blind as to what my fellow listmembers wishes are re: this matter..i may not be quite as vehement (sp) as some re: the publicity/accessibility of tickets to this show, but i would like to be able to state my viewpoints just the same, in a rational, nonthreatening and constructive manner :) *may i have a drink of water, now?* Charlotte OK, I have been sitting on the sidelines about this whole thing, and I have to put in my 2 cents. Despite the fact that myself and everyone else on this list would DIE for tickets to the show, doesn't mean that the whole world will be clamoring for them. This isn't U2 or the Stones people. Lets be realistic. I don't see any problem publicizing the show a little bit. And let Francis deal with it and if he wants help, he will solicit it. It seems as if everyone is a 'wannabe' concert promoter all of a sudden. > These are some good points ... insurance, legalities, extra ticket sales, extra footwork, more headaches --- Originally my vision was that of a small, intimate show with the members of the list, their family/friends, and the band, not a full-fledged public show. I want to keep it simple, I really do. Too much complexity will spoil the whole thing. All the bickering going on lately within the list attests to that! Angie all in response to this innocent honest question: Hi, Please forgive my utter ignorance here. I am in the process of putting together the next issue of LExicon mag and I seem to recall that there is going to be some sort of show by Ivan soon. Can anyone fill me in on this? I know I should have been reading the postings, but simply have not had the time. I would love tomention it in the next issue (or if it has already happened maybe someone has a quick review?) Thanks -Dave Richards PS- Any one seen Spins Top 42 Altrenative Novelty Hits? Safety Dance is in there. and here is the poor fellows response: Sorry to cause a commotion about all of this. I am not going to mention the concert in the next issue. However, it would be nice to have a review of the show should it go on. If there is anyone out there who would like to see their stuff in print you can email me a review. I hope the show does come off as planned. -Dave Richards Managing Editor Lexicon maybe now you see...... goin' thru your world like a chain reaction........ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: X Date: 23 Mar 1998 22:30:59 -0500 (EST) RUSH MANY OF US ON THE LIST WANT TO MAKE THIS A PUBLIC AFFAIR- OUTSIDE THE 6 INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE EXPRESSED OTHERWISE, MIKE, DAVE, STEVEN, CHARLOTTE AND MYSELF WANT TO GIVE ALL HATS FANS A CHANCE TO COME TO THE SHOW. I THINK IT IS FAIR TO ASSUME THAT THE VENUE WILL BE INTIMATE AND SMALL- THIS WE ALL AGREE ON...LETS LEAVE THE REST UP TO FRANCIS. WOLFGANG Wolfgang # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rush" Subject: (hats) Off we go... Date: 24 Mar 1998 00:25:06 -0600 So forgive me here, what is the point of the show? I can go see Ivan anytime. I can find out and go. Big deal. For those of you who have not been here for well over a year, the point wasn't to go to an Ivan show, the point was to ask him to do a PRIVATE show for US. Was, at any point during the discussion, this UNCLEAR to anyone? This discussion is, as I have said, MOOT. If we get first shot at tickets in a small club, and we sell out: moot. If we don't get first shot at tickets, and a company like Ticketmaster sells the tickets, rest assured, the brokers WILL get first shot at the tickets: moot. If we go *public* and the list buys all the tickets: moot. Jesus, who on the list who is planning to go will be happy if we make it public, and they don't get tickets? Making it public, (as some whiner said, "to be fair") means making ticket sales fair, which means brokers get the vast majority. This isn't rocket science folks, and it never was. We never discussed Ivan just "doing a show", he does that all the time. As far as bickering, lighten up, I don't have the time to worry about 200 different peoples sensitivities when I post here, we are just discussing points of view, and the printed word comes across as more caustic than I would intend. Oh, and Arechuei(sp?), thanks for sending me that concoction and inane commentary of yours three times. "Here's an idea: Have a point, it makes it soooo much more INTERESTING for the reader..." Anyone know the movie..... Cordially, Rush "To shrug." --Ayn Rand # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric W. Soderblom" Subject: (hats) WOW!!!!!!! Date: 24 Mar 1998 00:41:49 -0800 Hatters- For some reason, I have never been to the MP3 archive (http://www.holdman.com/mwh/). Well, I went there tonight and downloaded the software (cool!). And then downloaded a version of Freeways, and was FREAKING IMPRESSED!!!!!! If you have never tried it out, GO NOW. GREAT WORK RICHARD!!!! Eric Soderblom soderblom@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~soderblom # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric W. Soderblom" Subject: (hats) MIDI Date: 24 Mar 1998 01:27:01 -0800 I have asked this a thousand times, but could someone hook me up with a Hats MIDI. Either e-mail it to me, or let me know where to get it. Thanks- Eric Soderblom soderblom@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~soderblom # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Elite! Date: 24 Mar 1998 09:13:00 -0500 (EST) Claude> What is that suppose to mean? If Ivan chooses to stick with the "Private Ivan" concept, who would then dare cry out against his decision to be "elitist"? BTW, I think "Private Ivan" is a good name for the event, personally. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAXON9 Subject: (hats) calling all hats Date: 23 Mar 1998 20:08:43 EST We probably all have our own interesting little stories about how Men Without Hats came into our lives. My story is through my older sister who brought home a cassette tape of Pop Goes the World. The love for the music has grown since then and excitement reached a high at the discovery of a "Hats" homepage; and again when I read the news of a mailing list. I wish to be added to the list of devotedd fans. I live in California between San Francisco and Sacramento and would like to know of the best way to go about aquiring more Men Without Hats music and memorabilia? Many thanks, Glenn Jackson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Donald Stroud Subject: (hats) The Concert: I'm out Date: 24 Mar 1998 08:47:45 -0800 (PST) To whomever is keeping track of the concert attendence... Please remove me from the list. I won't be attending. I have watched the flames and pouting and arguing on the mailing list... and I'd rather not get involved in a scene like that. The music is what matters to me, not the politics or the glory of meeting Ivan and being his best buddy. This has degenerated from a once-in-a-lifetime chance to an agenda-ridden black hole. If the show does go through, I hope that those of you who make it have a great time. Don2 dstroud@captaina.Eng.Sun.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cpisarr1@ic3.ithaca.edu Subject: Re: (hats) The Concert: I'm out Date: 24 Mar 1998 14:33:05 -0500 (EST) Donald Said: The music is what matters to me, not the politics or the glory of meeting Ivan...This has degenerated from a once-in-a-lifetime chance to an agenda-ridden black hole. And I say: Amen. Everyone is like a complaint...personified. ****************************** MAY THIS E-MAIL SUCCEED WHY THE E-MAILS OF MY FRIENDS FAIL..YET MAY I ALWAYS BE PERCEIVED AS A TEAM PLAYER *********** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rush" Subject: Re: (hats) The Concert: I'm out Date: 24 Mar 1998 14:35:55 -0600 Dear God, are you two sensitive. There are 200 hundred people on this list, and 6 or 7 are having a discussion that will be resolved one way or another without bloodshed, and "EVERYONE" is a "blackhole"? Sorry we managed to evaporate all the peace and warmth and light from it for you, I do hope you'll get by. You won't even know the vast majority of people at the concert, what does it matter, the music will still be there. Cordially, Rush "To shrug." --Ayn Rand -----Original Message----- From: cpisarr1@ic3.ithaca.edu Donald Said: The music is what matters to me, not the politics or the glory of meeting Ivan... And I say: Amen. Everyone is like a complaint # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Donald Stroud Subject: Re: (hats) The Concert: I'm out Date: 24 Mar 1998 12:57:00 -0800 (PST) Thanks for the patronizing response. I am not being "sensitive". I'm just watching the bickering escalate. It doesn't matter how many people are complaining or arguing... the fact that even *one* person is making a stink about any facet of this concert is amazing. And look at all the negative things that have been discussed or revealed during these "discussions": jealousy about not being one of the people that got to talk to Ivan's manager; people wanting to shut out anyone from attending who isn't on the list (my girlfriend isn't on the list, so could I not bring her?); and most mind-boggling to me were the comments about SUING IVAN IF HE DIDN'T PLAY THE SONGS WE WANT TO HEAR. I don't think I'm being reactionary in this situation. I just don't want to be a part of it anymore. And Rush, if comments like "Sorry we managed to evaporate all the peace and warmth and light from it for you, I do hope you'll get by" are written by a person that will be attending this show, then I'm even more satisfied with my choice to drop out. Why do *you* want to attend this show, Rush? Is it not the music? Is it something else? I'm just curious. Don2 > Dear God, are you two sensitive. There are 200 hundred people on this list, > and 6 or 7 are having a discussion that will be resolved one way or another > without bloodshed, and "EVERYONE" is a "blackhole"? Sorry we managed to > evaporate all the peace and warmth and light from it for you, I do hope > you'll get by. You won't even know the vast majority of people at the > concert, what does it matter, the music will still be there. > > Cordially, > Rush > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Hull Date: 24 Mar 1998 16:52:26 -0500 Now I ain't stupid but I can't understand Why so many things are getting so out of hand Think we should wonder what the problem could be? Brad Hull bhull@uoguelph.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shriekman Subject: (hats) The mess . . . Date: 24 Mar 1998 17:40:58 EST I am saddened by the mess this has turned into, and am beginning to question whether this show is going to get off the ground. Personal attacks have made this unsavory and the two "camps" that have developed are using this list as a forum for their arguments are getting vicious. All this for something that hasn't even been confirmed yet! I, for one, think the best idea is to wait and see if Ivan will agree to do the show and where the show will be held before we (the list) decide how to wield our power in limiting attendance. I am willing to go under just about any circumstance, as long as I can get a couple of tickets. This may be the only chance for me to see Ivan in concert, and I don't want these arguments to put that in jeopardy. Greg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cpisarr1@ic3.ithaca.edu Subject: (hats) The Hats Date: 24 Mar 1998 17:02:14 -0500 (EST) Hey, This is just music. And it's meant to be enjoyed. Let's have the bickerers bicker and everyone else, like myself, will go to the show to hear and see a great show. Men Without HATE...let that be us... "...Hope is a good thing...maybe the best of things." -Shawshank Redemption ****************************** MAY THIS E-MAIL SUCCEED WHY THE E-MAILS OF MY FRIENDS FAIL..YET MAY I ALWAYS BE PERCEIVED AS A TEAM PLAYER *********** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Re: I'm out! Date: 24 Mar 1998 18:37:11 -0500 (EST) Um, Don2, I think the deal with the concert being for the list members only means the same as it means for when Laura makes T-shirts. Only people on the list and people who know people on the list will have them. My wife isn't a member of this list but I never considered leaving her at home while I go off to Canada for a weekend and party with a bunch of people I didn't know. I thought it was just generally understood that "list members only" didn't really mean that in the strictest sense. I've got friends who are not members of this list to whom I forward messages from this list when they pertain to the show - if I think it would help keep them better informed of it just i case they do decide to go along too. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Re: Elite! Date: 24 Mar 1998 14:13:14 -0500 (EST) No, I wasn't aiming anything at you Claude. I was just making a point that all this talk about elitism if the concert is held privately is, as the esteemed Bill Clinton might say, "a bunch of hooey". Nobody here is keeping anybody from being able to join this list. It's equally available to everybody who can access it. Now, computers aren't equally available to everybody but that's beyond the scope of the Hats list and is unrelated to it really. For cryin' out loud, I use a Commodore 128 to get it! \ Besides, even if we were being elitist about it, as long as nobody's suffering and/or dying as a result, it's not a problem. This kind of stuff is a far cry from the harmful elitism practiced by socialist / Communist governments which on paper proclaim "equality for all" but in reality keep all the goodies for themselves, leaving only misery to be equally distributed amongst the people living under their thumbs. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334 Subject: (hats) Reaction to your comments.... Date: 24 Mar 1998 22:09:08 EST Hey gang. Since 1 week, I was quiet. I checked all your messages (but very fast). I agree with all this negative reaction coming from you about all the misunderstanding and childish attitude that has occured during the primary organisation. Although, everything has been clarified between concerned parties. I could understand your scepticism but rest assured that everything will be done very profesionnaly and I encourage anyone who would like to suggest any ideas to come foward with them because my goal is to organize a concert suitable and to the satisfaction of all the members of the list. If you don't agree, please, tell me, I won't put any more energy or time to this wonderful project. We are all adults, we don't have to fight like children. You are going to get the best show ever, why are you talking about stupidity. PLEASE, change subject and try to focus on your next summer trip. P.s. Naturally, any member should feel free to invite whom ever they wish without any hesitations. They should not be any dictature or imposition as to who could one bring to the concert. At least, that's how I feel. Ciao Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADTooley Subject: Re: (hats) The Concert Date: 24 Mar 1998 22:17:47 EST I really did not want to respond to this at first, but I feel I have to so that things won't get distorted anymore than they are. In a message dated 98-03-24 17:02:04 EST, dstroud writes: << And look at all the negative things that have been discussed or revealed during these "discussions": jealousy about not being one of the people that got to talk to Ivan's manager; people wanting to shut out anyone from attending who isn't on the list (my girlfriend isn't on the list, so could I not bring her?); and most mind-boggling to me were the comments about SUING IVAN IF HE DIDN'T PLAY THE SONGS WE WANT TO HEAR. >> First of all, it was not an issue of jealousy, it was an issue of trust, and an issue of hurt. Secondly, from the very beginning we have said that list members will be free to bring along as many friends or family members as they want!! Third, nobody ever actually suggested something as ridiculous as *suing* Ivan. Give me a break. Give everyone a break. I want to tell everyone that if you want to be sure this show happens, one good way to help the effort is NOT to bicker on this list! So let's stop this nonsense before it ruins everything!!!!!!!!!!! Angie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Re: I'm out! Date: 24 Mar 1998 22:23:34 -0500 (EST) > So why all this arguing? I dunno, Claude. I think you misunderstood my previous posts. I was speaking in defense of the list. If the list were not openly available to the public then perhaps complaints of elitist behaviour could be justified. But the fact is, this list is publicly available - and free, too! - so calling anything that happens here "elitist" is foolish (aka "a bunch of hooey"). I think that because people in the UK, US, Australia, Canada, Brazil, Chile, Japan, and Lord knows where else, are aware that this show is being planned, there is plenty of proof that it *is* already being promoted in public. When we discuss the show via the list, it is being promoted publicly. The method is not a traditional method, but it is no less public because this is a public list. It's a matter of pull vs. push, that's all. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) Re: Elite! Date: 25 Mar 1998 00:10:04 EST In a message dated 98-03-24 19:32:19 EST, MYKEC@delphi.com writes: > For cryin' out loud, I use a Commodore 128 to get it! > \ uh, don't feel TOO bad, Myke....one of my two links to this thing involves an Atari modem *blush!* ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) The Concert: I'm out Date: 25 Mar 1998 00:30:49 EST > In a message dated 98-03-24 17:02:04 EST, DStroud writes: > > people wanting to shut out anyone from attending who isn't on the list > (my girlfriend isn't on the list, so could I not bring her?); and most mind- > boggling to me were the comments about SUING IVAN IF HE DIDN'T PLAY > THE SONGS WE WANT TO HEAR. hi donald... last time i checked...i was under the impression that list members could whomever they wanted to (hell, a football team for all they care!) as long as they were able to purchase the tickets.....this arrangement would still be much different from that if the show was a public one... the second comment i have posted is equally mind-boggling to me as well... *???* i myself apologize for being one of the 'loose cannons' that has brought you to such a harsh decision....i agree with Aerechui that this latest melodrama has escalated from what was originally an innocent post from a well-meaning magazine editor.... ttyl, -C- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rush" Subject: Re: (hats) The Concert: I'm out Date: 25 Mar 1998 00:47:17 -0600 Yeah, in retrospect, that was a bit patronizing, forgive me. My point was simply that I work at the United Center, home of the Chicago Bulls, and I see what ticket brokers can do. I am very close to the topic, and I see it all the time. A $45US ticket averages $200US per seat. How many kids get to see that? How many true fans can afford that? For the Stones the $300US face value tickets are going for $1200-$1700US. Agreed, Mw/oH/Ivan is not the Stones, but if ticket brokers heard that it would truly be an intimate show with conceivably only 100 or so fans w/ Ivan hanging around afterward to chat, sign autographs, they know they could charge a bundle, and would. The reason I'm going is simply the music, there are a few people on the list that I would really like to meet, but I'm under no illusions about all 200. As C said, bring your friends, bring your family, that was never a problem, but how would you feel if you couldn't even get/afford the tickets? Cordially, Rush "To shrug." --Ayn Rand -----Original Message----- From: HarpiChick > (my girlfriend isn't on the list, so could I not bring her?); and most mind- > boggling to me were the comments about SUING IVAN IF HE DIDN'T PLAY > THE SONGS WE WANT TO HEAR. hi donald... last time i checked...i was under the impression that list members could whomever they wanted to (hell, a football team for all they care!) as long as they were able to purchase the tickets.....this arrangement would still be much different from that if the show was a public one... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aerechui Subject: (hats) peace Date: 25 Mar 1998 03:17:46 EST please take a moment to read the following: here is the original message that somebody misunderstood and set off a chain reaction of harshness and criticism, and worst of all- hurt feelings: Hi, Please forgive my utter ignorance here. I am in the process of putting together the next issue of LExicon mag and I seem to recall that there is going to be some sort of show by Ivan soon. Can anyone fill me in on this? I know I should have been reading the postings, but simply have not had the time. I would love tomention it in the next issue (or if it has already happened maybe someone has a quick review?) Thanks -Dave Richards no where in here does he mention wanting to make the show public, or promote or advertise it even. He could very well have wanted to mention the PRIVATE show in his magazine, which would have notified some non-list but serious MWH fans. he could have even listed the list's address (and still could by the way) so that more could join! but somehow this turned into something it never was, and people got upset. i name names here only because i am pointing out the good: rush deals with ticket brokers on something like a daily basis, sees what they can do, and was naturally concerned about all of us on this list and our show. maybe angie has had some bad experiences with shows and the "wrong" crowd showing up. again, she is expressing concern, not just for herself, but for all of us who may be attending the show. i know charlotte intends her letters not to be taken so heavily as some seem to read them. we all are cool, and anyone who sounds icky in these mails about the show, is really only concerned that all of us have a good show and a good time at the show! i think many of us forget that with mail, especially typewritten mail, it can be very difficult at times to read the emotion that went into the letter, and very easy to take it wrong. please remember this before you get offended at what someone wrote. and please remember this when you write. and please don't forget that the great ones remember peace, Aerechui # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nathan Shireman Subject: (hats) PEACE! FOR GOODNESS SAKES! Date: 25 Mar 1998 08:28:56 -0500 (EST) Okay, Here's the thing. This may be just another posting that everyone will fly by and not read, but then again, it may not. Lord knows that I haven't read all the negative banter going back and forth, just skimmed it. ANYWAY, one thing I've noticed about the list is that we never can DEBATE. Debating doesn't exist. Instead, everyone throws out there two cents and attacks, okay, I shouldn't say EVERYONE... but for the most part, the postings I read are abrasive. When and If we all make it to montreal this summer, I would hate to see hurt feelings between us all. It should really be a joyous time, and even if one or two of us are pissed at one another, it will distract from the whole theme of what the show is attempting to promote. So, without further ado... I want to say PEACE! Please... PEACE! Let's take the discussion and move on. Let's contain the disaster, and begin building the MWH city again. I know that I have been a part of this whole mess, and I apologize for it all, and I hope that others will follow my lead and say... PEACE! EGAD! PEACE! Thanks to all for listening Nathan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Re: PEACE! Date: 25 Mar 1998 10:48:37 -0500 (EST) A lot of people in the US tend to put down its Constitution because it was written more than 200 years ago. They consider it "out of date" and yet here we are on this list demonstrating the very human nature it was intended to control. Left to its own devices, a pure democracy fails. Democracy has often been compared to two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch. Really, though, what we have on this list are two "warring" political ideologies - a democracy vs. a representative republic. Contrary to common understanding, the United States is not a democracy. It is a representative republic with representatives chosen by the democratic electoral process. I suggest that the people on this list too allow the politics of this whole concert creation thing to be handled by our representative, Francis. Even though he wasn't "elected" to do the job, he, by far, is the best candidate for the job. If you have ideas, please write a letter to your representative instead of taking it to the phony courtroom which is "the public". The public in this case really has no power to control anything. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Senz Subject: (hats) Oh...this list is a political forum, great! Date: 25 Mar 1998 09:39:22 -0700 > A lot of people in the US tend to put down its Constitution because > it was written more than 200 years ago. They consider it "out of date" > and yet here we are on this list demonstrating the very human nature it > was intended to control. Left to its own devices, a pure democracy fails. > Democracy has often been compared to two wolves and a sheep voting on > what to have for lunch. Really, though, what we have on this list are > two "warring" political ideologies - a democracy vs. a representative > republic. Contrary to common understanding, the United States is not > a democracy. It is a representative republic with representatives > chosen by the democratic electoral process. I suggest that the people > on this list too allow the politics of this whole concert creation > thing to be handled by our representative, Francis. Even though he > wasn't "elected" to do the job, he, by far, is the best candidate for > the job. If you have ideas, please write a letter to your representative > instead of taking it to the phony courtroom which is "the public". > The public in this case really has no power to control anything. > > Myke I prefer the parliamentary view, myself. (Parliament's been around longer than the U.S. version of government, anyway. Moose knows.) Considering MWH is a Canadian band...AND Francis is Canadian, I think it's more appropriate that we think of him as our local MP, (Membre du Parlement) Senz p.s. since this list has become a forum for expressing our political views, I will be drafting a twenty thousand word manifesto outlining how I believe hats members should behave from now on, and which I will post in 10 segments per day until sometime in the year 2010. Unless someone has a problem with this? :-) Senz again # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Janet Lumb Subject: (hats) Ivan in newspaper! Date: 25 Mar 1998 12:11:54 -0500 (EST) Did anyone else see the full page interview with Ivan in last weeks "montreal Gazette" pretty interesting. LOG-ON-TOAST. Ps all the bickering should end..and all this detail about the concert, has Ivan actually agreed to do a gig as MWH I'd be careful not to hold my breath. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "damien.delhase" Subject: (hats) Concert Date: 25 Mar 1998 18:29:44 +0100 I am coming a bit late in the list. Could anyone resume what you are planning for the concert (includind dates, place, ...)? Thank you, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Damien Delhase, Le Soir en Ligne Phone: +32-2-225.53.12 112, rue Royale E-Mail: dd@lesoir.be B-1000 Brussels - Belgium Web site: www.lesoir.be ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Claude Grégoire" Subject: (hats) the old one remembers Date: 25 Mar 1998 14:00:34 -0500 Happy birthday to Simon Wooldridge and Vince Silvaggio from all their fellow hatters! And a special thanks to Vince for is help on the MWH FAQ site... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Dear Senz, Date: 25 Mar 1998 13:53:17 -0500 (EST) I believe you missed my entire point. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Gordon 1-4 The Vine Subject: (hats) Ivan "Off The Record" Date: 25 Mar 1998 14:40:58 -0500 Just letting Canadian MWH fans know that Ivan will be on The Sports Network's "Off The Record" with Michael Lansberg on April 6 at 6:00pm. Other guests are to be announced soon. If any listees have any, possibly sports/music related, Ivan questions/stories they would like me to pass on to the host please e-mail me direct. I'll inform of any changes if there are any. For more info on "Off The Record" check out: http://www.tsn.ca/otr/ Kerry Gordon - Toronto kgordon@tsn.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniele Rossi Subject: (hats) long quotes Date: 25 Mar 1998 17:43:49 -0500 I am writing to ask...please please PLEASE don't quote an ENTIRE e-mail :) It is very annoying. Yes yes it takes 2 seconds in this hectic busy world to scroll down, but is it necessary to quote an entire message? We already know what the topic is anyway :) A few lines will do. (I don't mean to beat a dead horse here, but another reason why debates may seem difficult here is because read and reply at different times/days) Bye all! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Online Comic Book http://www.interlog.com/~daniele 883 Fan Page...dal Canada? http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3603 Spandau Ballet Unofficial Homepage http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/7994 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David P. King" Subject: Re: (hats) long quotes Date: 25 Mar 1998 17:08:32 -0700 >I am writing to ask...please please PLEASE don't quote an ENTIRE e-mail :) >It is very annoying. I agree Daniele. Scolling through three pages of commented text to read someone's one sentence comment is one of the most annoying things when reading through e-mail. It is also much easier to understand when the part that is being responded to is cut out to clarify the response. Just an opinion, --David dking@xmission.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kathy beaupre" Subject: (hats) the NEW hats page... Date: 25 Mar 1998 17:40:21 -0800 HI... althought I am new to the list I would like to inform you on my MWH page..I dont think many people have been there yet `cause my tab only reads 22 and half those were me.. i would like to take you all to...... www.Geocities.com/SouthBeach/Breakers/9214 hope you enjoy the NEW hats page.. =) from Michelle... P.S I love to hear back on it...and be corrected if something is wrong. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniele Rossi Subject: Re: (hats) the NEW hats page... Date: 25 Mar 1998 22:24:29 -0500 >HI... >althought I am new to the list I would like to >inform you on my MWH page..I dont think many >people have been there yet `cause my tab only reads 22 >and half those were me.. >i would like to take you all to...... >www.Geocities.com/SouthBeach/Breakers/9214 > Welcome to the list! Great page you have! I like how you have the links in green under the white headings. Where did you get that photo of them in 1984? I like the questions you listed for Ivan--does he care for his fans :) Cute :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Online Comic Book http://www.interlog.com/~daniele 883 Fan Page...dal Canada? http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3603 Spandau Ballet Unofficial Homepage http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/7994 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Re: PEACE! Date: 25 Mar 1998 13:50:40 -0500 (EST) Hello Aerechui! Um, actually I am well aware that this is a very international mailing list. Ever since I started making the VHS HiFi compilations of the CDs made available from this list (and the two video compilations as well), I've filled several international orders. If you reread my last "political" message, you may notice that I carefully worded it so as to, hopefully, dispel any notions that I was arrogantly assuming that everybody here is American - like I've seen too many other Americans do in the few short years I've been involved with the internet. I often do not know if people outside the US are aware of what a lot of Americans believe about their own Constitution - thinking it to be old and "out of date". I just happened to realize, however, the political nature of what was happening on this list and the uncanny resemblances to the academic structure of my own government. If you ask me, the 200+ year old document that is the Unites oops/ United States Constitution is "right on" and full of thought and remarkable understanding of the constant political nature of man. The example it gives regarding how a so-called free society is to be governed, I believe, is very relevant to the current situation here on this list: establish the office of a representative which the majority favours and allow that person to represent those who put him/her there. I believe this was the original plan anyway by allowing Francis to represent us and make decisions on our behalf. I think that should be maintained above all else and if anybody is unhappy with anything that occurs or is about to occur, emails should be sent to him privately and not in public where it can really do no good. As for my personal political ideology, you may visit my website at your leisure and read it. The particular document to which I refer I did not write, but it speaks for me just the same with a style and grace I could never duplicate if I tried. http://people.delphi.com/mykec is my URL. Scroll down a bit on the front page until you find the link to "Statism: The Opiate Of The Elites". Let me know what you think. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Dear Senz, Date: 25 Mar 1998 16:00:08 -0500 (EST) > point 1 - democracy has it's leaders and for a reason Ok, I give you 1 point there - although I believe I did say too that America is not a democracy. > point 2 - I am a proud American and want to boast/teach a little about it But of course. Don't all Americans do this? Your assessment is grossly incorrect and a poor rebuttal. I see no flaw in the analogy and find it quite appropriate in describing the current political situation that has tainted this list recently. And it *is* a political situation. aAllowing Francis to govern the affairs of the list as it pertains to the hopefully upcoming concert in Montreal is akin  quite literally akin to the American political model and is far better than everybody here just shouting out ideas and getting into public fights over petty grievances. I certainly would feel stupid to use the parliamentary form of government as an example. I used the American form of government in my analogy because it is that with which I am most familiar. Note that I mentioned nothing about specific official titles. That was your move. "Representative" is a generic term. Ever seen "Lord of the Flies"? Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Lord Of The Flies Date: 25 Mar 1998 10:36:54 -0500 (EST) Okay, really quickly... If you've seen either version of this movie, raise your hand. Nathan, this is a reply to your most recent post re: PEACE! Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kajjia Gorian" Subject: (hats) LOL Date: 25 Mar 1998 21:06:49 -0800 Ya know, I can see how the list can talk about their small concerns with the concert, but this is getting ridiculous! Gee wiz! How many people here care about America's politics? I would say most of us AMERICANS. However, some people joined the MWH mailing list to talk about MWH in any way shape or form. The arguments about the concert may have seemed absurd to some, but I ofund it informative. Everyone has their right to state an opinion, and all our opinions should go into this concert since it's "our" "private" concert. Basically what I'm trying to say is: If you want to talk Americas politics, I am sure there's another mailing list out there for ya. Aaron Gitlin http://kajjia.home.ml.org http://menwohats.home.ml.org Security, everyone feels better with... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Geez Date: 26 Mar 1998 00:43:59 -0500 (EST) Listen folks, I kept out of the discussion regarding the concert and all the different thoughts about how it should be advertised or not advertised blah blah blah until I had to say something I considered to be relevant that could shed some light on the main problem that was at the root of all the bickering. Now for some dumb reason, some think I'm trying to sing the praises of the American political system. For God's sake, try digging a little deeper than that into what I submitted to this list! I said absolutely nothing about bicameral legislatures being superior to parliaments. I didn't bestow an official American political title upon Francis. I didn't boast about how great America's governmental system is over those of other countries. And if you think I did, you missed the point entirely. This list has an official representative, Francis, who has been designated as an intermediary between it and Ivan's management. If you disagree with something related to how the show is being handled or if you have a good suggestion, I suggest we adhere to the plan of submitting our thoughts to Francis if we are to all remain calm and civil throughout the process. Such a system is at least theoretically if not realistically similar to the way business is conducted in America's governments - and many others as well, I might add. The alternative is to act like some of the children in "Lord of The Flies" and let political chaos run rampant on the list. I personally don't want to see that happen. It causes people to wish to unsubscribe. We can have political order here or we can have political chaos. The way things have been going, political chaos has been winning. At its most fundamental level, my message is to just cool off and stop posting inflammatory remarks about the handling of the concert in public via this list. How any of you could misinterpret my message as being one of arrogant, boastful, and proud support of the American political system is beyond me. This is all I have to say about this. If the public bickering continues, I will let you all have the list to yourselves and will too unsubscribe with little or no fanfare. Good night. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rush" Subject: Re: (hats) Geez Date: 26 Mar 1998 02:20:13 -0600 Now you know how I feel. Every little thing... Cordially, Rush "To shrug." --Ayn Rand -----Original Message----- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Listen folks, For God's sake, try digging a little deeper than that into what I submitted to this list! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric W. Soderblom" Subject: Re: (hats) Re: PEACE! Date: 26 Mar 1998 00:38:53 -0800 Aerechui- DON'T DO IT!!! Myke WILL rip you off. The guy is a con artist!!! -Eric P.S. I AM TOTALLY JOKING!!! :-) > >Hello Aerechui! > >Um, actually I am well aware that this is a very international mailing >list. Ever since I started making the VHS HiFi compilations of the >CDs made available from this list (and the two video compilations as well), >I've filled several international orders. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Senz Subject: Re: (hats) Dear Myke, Date: 26 Mar 1998 09:29:07 -0700 > Ever seen "Lord of the Flies"? > > Myke Yes, I've read the book and seen the movies. That's an interesting analogy and you make a good point there. Are you trying to say that Francis has made an error allowing the whole list to become decision makers. In essence it has become quite the monster running around without a head. Is that what you mean Myke? Then I believe you know how to make a good point without eluding to any preferred political system. Good job! Senz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Dear Senz, Date: 26 Mar 1998 12:01:46 -0500 (EST) However, if you would really *wish* to do so, I'm game. I made a typo. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Dear Senz, Date: 26 Mar 1998 11:59:45 -0500 (EST) I'm not going to quit the list, don't worry. Although at times it does seem like a solution to some problems. If I were in it only for myself it would be easier to leave. As far as continuing a political discussion, I don't believe there has been one to continue. As far as beginning one privately, I don't really see a need. However, if you would really with to do so, I'm game. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Dear Senz, Date: 26 Mar 1998 12:23:14 -0500 (EST) Re: This list and "Lord of the Flies"... I think you've got it. Actually, while I was lurking I saw that some of the members of the list itself were falling into the trap of attempting to make decisions when it was not their place to do so in this particular case - with regard to how it should be promoted. Bickering ensued as a result and the focus of leaving such matters to Francis seemed to get completely buried in the melee. Francis didn't make any mistake as far as I could tell. I think he's doing the best job anybody could ask of him to do. I saw the whole episode as being fundamentally flawed in a most political and philosophical way and tried my best to explain myself using "democracy vs. the representative republic" as an analogy. I believe that had certain list members simply remembered that this whole concert situation was supposed to be handled in "representative republic" fashion instead of in "democratic" fashion, the arguing about elitism and such would never have occurred. Or, at least, it would have never occurred in public via the list. And the dignity of the list would have been preserved. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike Subject: Re: (hats) concert Date: 26 Mar 1998 18:57:18 +0100 Tom wrote > who cares? I agree with you - did anyone bother fighting over recognition for the bootleg CDs??? I personally don't care if ppl know I was involved or not - I think the gig should be enjoyed not fought over... }:-) Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry Gordon 1-4 The Vine Subject: (hats) MWH Rarities? Date: 26 Mar 1998 17:11:04 -0500 Just wondering if any of the following is a MWH rarity: 12" Vinyl: #1 - Where Do The Boys Go (extended) - Promo side A & B #2 - Pop Goes The World 12" 1 - Boom Box - Single Mix 2 - Extended - Dance Mix 3 - Dub Mix 4 - Dance Mix #3 - Safety Dance Extended Club Mix - 4:32 sides A & B CD's #4 - 1 - Moonbeam (Beam Me Up Radio Edit)5:49 2 - Home On The Beam (House is a Home Mix) 5:55 3 - Moonbeam (Back Apella Vocal) 3:42 4 - Jenny Wore Black - 2:57 #5 1 - Safety Dance UK Remix 2 - Safety Dance - Original Aussie Version From what I can tell these are the only cd's/vinyl I have that contain tracks not available on the album releases. Kerry Gordon - Toronto kgordon@tsn.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ccampbell@spindle.net (ccampbell@spindle.net) Subject: (hats) ??? Date: 26 Mar 1998 20:25:39 -0600 To all: Does anybody know what this is?: Band/Artist 'HATS,MEN WITHOUT' FIRST EP! LP:10` $30.00 +10% -- rare early independent ep C.Campbell # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Norman" Subject: (hats) Folk of the 80s Date: 26 Mar 1998 21:50:41 -0500 > To all: > > Does anybody know what this is?: > > > Band/Artist 'HATS,MEN WITHOUT' > > FIRST EP! LP:10` $30.00 +10% -- rare early independent ep > > > C.Campbell Thats got to be Folk of the Eighties I EP. Folk of the Eighties II (ROY demo cassette) the second one was never released. Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alain Robillard-Bastien" Subject: Re : (hats) ??? Date: 26 Mar 1998 22:52:46 -0500 I think this EP includes Antartica, Freeways, Security, Modern dancing and another song. This is a collector's item, very hard to find even here in Montreal. On my own point of view, GET IT! Al. (Has it is a smaller white sleeve with the MWH logo on it? Folk of the 80's Part One?) > >To all: > >Does anybody know what this is?: > > >Band/Artist 'HATS,MEN WITHOUT' > >FIRST EP! LP:10` $30.00 +10% -- rare early independent ep > > >C.Campbell # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Re: PEACE! Date: 26 Mar 1998 08:12:03 -0500 (EST) Oh, thanks Eric! Tryin' to destroy what little credibility I have left after being exposed as the true proud, arrogant, American that I am, eh? Uh, huh. I see what's going on! Myke P.S. Big grin! :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dolphind@interlog.com Subject: (hats) Ivan on Camilla Scott Date: 27 Mar 1998 00:48:38 -0800 Someone had mentioned that Ivan was on the Camilla Scott talk show some time ago. I called them and it is scheduled to be repeated on May 1st, 1998. So if you missed it like I did, don't miss it the second time around. Kirk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Dear Senz, Date: 26 Mar 1998 15:44:59 -0500 (EST) If I'd just come out and said, "Y'know, if we would all just stick to the plan of functioning as a representative republic instead of trying to turn this list into a democracy with regards to this concert,..." Who then would have understood what the heck I was trying to say? Hence my choice to employ an analogy to illustrate the point more clearly. Personally, I know nary a soul who regularly uses the term "representative republic" in their everyday speech - yet that is the correct term to use in this situation. This is why I decided to draw a more colourful picture with more commonly recognized examples. It was not an effort to teach. It was an effort to make my own thoughts and concepts a little bit easier to follow and understand. I am told routinely by coworkers that I think and speak on another "level" or "wavelength" than the one on which they do - but I don't always see it when it's happening. All I can do is simply be aware that it has happened often in the past and can possibly happen again at any time. I don't like the fact that it happens and was attempting to prevent it from happening at such a sensitive period in the history of this list. Right now, I'm sure somebody's out there misinterpreting this very message, thinking I'm bragging about myself. I never once thought somebody would have interpreted my previous posts as waving an American flag in everybody's face. Now what *this* has to do with the Hats concert, I've no idea. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Big Ten-Inch Record Date: 26 Mar 1998 22:04:43 -0500 (EST) But was the Fot80s EP released as a 10" EP? My copy is a 12" disc. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (hats) Big Ten-Inch Record Date: 27 Mar 1998 00:16:56 -0800 (PST) On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, LORD HASENPFEFFER wrote: > > But was the Fot80s EP released as a 10" EP? My copy is a 12" disc. Yes- the first release was a 10", then the Stiff 12", then the Freeways 12" with all the Fot80s songs on the flip side. dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Claude Grégoire" Subject: Re: (hats) Big Ten-Inch Record Date: 27 Mar 1998 11:03:43 -0500 LORD HASENPFEFFER a =E9crit: >=20 > But was the Fot80s EP released as a 10" EP? My copy is a 12" disc. As it is clearly mentioned in Lazlo's Men Without Hats discography (http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats), 10" in Canada, 12" in the S= tates... Take care Claude # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Senz Subject: Re: (hats) Dear Myke, Date: 27 Mar 1998 09:58:32 -0700 > I am told routinely by coworkers that I think > and speak on another "level" or "wavelength" than the one on > which they do - but I don't always see it when it's happening. It's pretty hard to be on the same "level" when I'm recieving your thursday posts on friday!! Okay, let's put this one behind us and get ready for the next one.... (sigh)! btw Myke, do you think we've stopped people from arguing about the concert? That was our plan all along, eh? ;-) Senz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) Oh...this list is a political forum, great! Date: 27 Mar 1998 12:52:50 EST In a message dated 98-03-25 11:46:20 EST, senz@nucleus.com writes: > p.s. since this list has become a forum for expressing our political views, I > will be drafting a twenty thousand word manifesto outlining how I believe > hats members should behave from now on, and which I will post in 10 segments > per day until sometime in the year 2010. Unless someone has a problem with > this? > > :-) > > Senz again > roflmfao! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) Dear Myke, Date: 27 Mar 1998 13:09:19 EST In a message dated 98-03-27 12:01:42 EST, senz@nucleus.com writes: > > btw Myke, do you think we've stopped people from arguing about the concert? > That was our plan all along, eh? ;-) > > Senz > what plan, senz? stopping being people? or arguing about the concert? *sly wink* Charlotte # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Dear Senz, Date: 27 Mar 1998 13:32:06 -0500 (EST) I too have noticed the incredible delay between the time I send a message and the time it is posted. Sometimes 8-10 hours pass between them. And, yes, I do believe the list has ceased to argue about the concert! What if we told everybody that it was all a big hoax that worked? :-) Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) ??? Date: 27 Mar 1998 17:29:38 -0500 (EST) CD #8 is shipping already? Where's my copy? :-) Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aerechui Subject: Re: (hats) I want the THE SPELL album Date: 27 Mar 1998 17:41:54 EST here is where you can get it: HMV in montreal. the phone number is 1-800-567-2442. and that will work from the states. ask to be transferred downstairs (it is a three level store with about 200 employees!). I always speak to Sharon. I paid $17.59 total u.s. dollars to have The Spell delivered to my mailbox about 3 days after i ordered it. there is one technicality with using a credit card (one i admire for its safety purposes), you must fax them a signed note authorizing hmv to use your card, which they will keep on record. fax# is 514-875-9158. i have to say it is the finest music store i have ever seen! (they also have pgtw, 21st century, sideways and greatest hats) bye Aerechui # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334 Subject: (hats) Ivan's private show --- UPDATE Date: 27 Mar 1998 20:18:59 EST Hey gang.... Dave Byrne told me he still waiting any news from Ivan himself. It seems Mr. Doroschuk is a busy guy between Toronto, Montreal and New York. The show won't be public, ONLY FOR FANS, WITHOUT ANY PROFIT! (except for the band itself) You are free to bring any one you want. Ciao Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Norman" Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan's private show --- UPDATE Date: 27 Mar 1998 20:40:15 -0500 > Hey gang.... > > Dave Byrne told me he still waiting any news from Ivan himself. It seems Mr. > Doroschuk is a busy guy between Toronto, Montreal and New York. > > > The show won't be public, ONLY FOR FANS, WITHOUT ANY PROFIT! (except for the > band itself) > > You are free to bring any one you want. > > Ciao > > Francis Is everyone feeling a little better now? Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Dear Tom Norman, Date: 28 Mar 1998 15:33:27 -0500 (EST) I replied to your most recent post but it bounced back to me as undeliverable. To answer your question... Feelin' just fine here, dude! Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan's private show --- UPDATE Date: 28 Mar 1998 16:13:24 EST In a message dated 98-03-27 20:21:14 EST, JDivito334@aol.com writes: > Hey gang.... > > Dave Byrne told me he still waiting any news from Ivan himself. It seems Mr. > > Doroschuk is a busy guy between Toronto, Montreal and New York. > > > The show won't be public, ONLY FOR FANS, WITHOUT ANY PROFIT! (except for the > band itself) > > You are free to bring any one you want. > > Ciao > > Francis > yaHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Senz Subject: (hats) Ivan chat Date: 28 Mar 1998 17:16:19 -0700 Does anyone else feel a little let down by the promises made during the chat. 1. new video "1972" 2. new Men Without Hats album out by January 98 3. new Ivan material out around the same time 4. promo package from Tox 5. world domination (okay, the last one I really wasn't expecting!) I wonder if Ivan is feeling a bit let down too. also...I've put "Nationale 7" on my Gallery of Cover Art page http://www.nucleus.com/~senz/MWH/MWH.htm Senz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HarpiChick Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan chat *let down...???* :/ Date: 29 Mar 1998 03:58:30 EST In a message dated 98-03-28 19:23:06 EST, Senz write: > > 1. new video "1972" > 2. new Men Without Hats album out by January 98 > 3. new Ivan material out around the same time > 4. promo package from Tox > 5. world domination > welp, one outta five ain't too bad;) personally, i wouldn't be surprised if the new MWH material came out around the first part of `99... dunno about the Ivan material... promo package/TOX...*stifling much giggling*.... world domination?... been there, done that.... NEXT? ;) i certainly do not feel let down...the only direction from where this all stands for now is forward,and whatever happens re: the other stuff will happen at it's own pace...what we have for now is good enough for me, as there is only MORE to look forward to:) ttyl, Charlotte # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniele Rossi Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan chat *let down...???* :/ Date: 29 Mar 1998 14:05:39 -0500 >> 1. new video "1972" >> 2. new Men Without Hats album out by January 98 >> 3. new Ivan material out around the same time >> 4. promo package from Tox >> 5. world domination 1. Well, there is a video for "1972 (Slippin' Away)", I haven't seen it :( But others on the list have. Can anyone describe what happens in the video? 2-4. It is usually difficult to release an album by the proposed deadline. Maybe there are final tracks recorded but there wasn't any time to put together the album. Maybe it's also because of the ice storm Montreal endured in January which delayed the album. Maybe Ivan meant in January they would start recording. As for the promo package, a theory I have is maybe Ivan was a little over his head when he gave us the phone number. suddenly, everyone on the list dialed it and got an answering machine. Maybe it got erased? Who knows. Maybe the promopackages got lost (it could happen). Maybe they are still being made? 5. Well, that takes time :) So far, some of us on the list are doing a good job initializing it. For example, the bootlegs are pretty popular and so are the t-shirts! Now we have a fan-produced cover CD on the drawing board. A few fan websites and Ivan on Camilla Scott and TSN! What will be next? Ivan on "Definition"? :D -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Online Comic Book http://www.interlog.com/~daniele 883 Fan Page...dal Canada? http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3603 Spandau Ballet Unofficial Homepage http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/7994 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "icehouse" Subject: (hats) Looking for help from fellow collectors in Japan Date: 24 Mar 1998 23:24:35 PST I'm a huge fan of Ivan, but I am currently attempting to find a CD that = went out of print just last year in 1997 by Mayumi. The Japanese pop songwriter issued a CD called The Art Of Romance (For = Life Reocrds) in 1993 and I am desperately looking for a copy of it. As = fellow collectors you know how it feels to want. If anyone out there can offer a helping hand I would appreciate it. Just contact me direct Gordon icehouse@worldnet.att.net THANK YOU # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Donald Stroud Subject: Re: (hats) The Concert Date: 25 Mar 1998 10:00:33 -0800 (PST) > I want to tell everyone that if you want to be sure this show happens, one > good way to help the effort is NOT to bicker on this list! So let's stop this > nonsense before it ruins everything!!!!!!!!!!! > I am in no way trying to undermine or sabotage the show. I just made a decision on my own, and that decision happens to be that I don't want to go now. To everyone who plans on attending the concert: have fun! ============================================================================= Don2 dstroud@captaina.Eng.Sun.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Schumann Subject: (hats) Snipefest Date: 25 Mar 1998 12:15:28 -0600 (CST) Instead of not going to the show, I'm tempted to unsubscribe form the list. All these long winded responses are this close to useless in my mind: The people who write them are doing nothing. I just don't read them, and I don't want them in my inbox any more. I'd like to read things about Men Wihtout Hats, not about how we can all get along, or who said what or what anyone else thinks about what anyone said. I just don't care, and from the list of contributors, I'd guess most of us list readers don't care either. In the interest of the list, please take issue with someone via e-mail. If you want others' opinions, have them send it via e-mail and post a (brief!) summary. As for the venue, admission and ticket policies, guest list and play list, none of you care what I think (and if you do, get help), so I will keep it to myself or send my concerns to Francis and wait to see what is finalized THEN decide if I want to attend. Chris Schumann # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theartdept@att.net (rod) Subject: Re: (hats) buying THE SPELL album Date: 28 Mar 1998 03:22:29 -0800 Hello. Just wanted to say that I ordered The Spell from HMV in Toronto 1-800 567-8468 and it arrived within a week. I didn't have to fax them authorisation, though, and I did use my visa card... it was less than $18 US including shipping. I have also used A&B Sound in Vancouver (they didn't have The Spell on release date). www.absound.ca They have the cheapest cds in Canada (and likely the word, given the Canadian $ exchange rate, which is about .60 US!! They should also have PGTW, Greatest Hats, 21st Century, etc... Best wishes, Rod Los Angeles >here is where you can get it: >HMV in montreal. the phone number is 1-800-567-2442. and that will work from >the states. ask to be transferred downstairs (it is a three level store with >about 200 employees!). I always speak to Sharon. I paid $17.59 total u.s. >dollars to have The Spell delivered to my mailbox about 3 days after i ordered >it. > there is one technicality with using a credit card (one i admire for its >safety purposes), you must fax them a signed note authorizing hmv to use your >card, which they will keep on record. fax# is 514-875-9158. i have to say it >is the finest music store i have ever seen! >(they also have pgtw, 21st century, sideways and greatest hats) > > bye > Aerechui # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kathy beaupre" Subject: (hats) do you know? Date: 28 Mar 1998 20:51:55 -0800 HI ALL.. I am wondering who from I could get the CD folk of the 80's and ROY/FOE3 from? I dont really feel up to ordering off the net .. if you know what I mean. thanx. Michelle # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kathy beaupre" Subject: (hats) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 17:14:31 -0800 Date: 29 Mar 1998 20:53:28 -0700 I feel sad to hear of people wanting to leave the list because of this past while. a.k.a Chris. I havent even talked to you yet and I dont want anyone to feel they should leave the list I am new here and yes i want to talk about MWH too...not the other stuff that people have been debating lately. SO HERE. if anyone feels they have to leave the list I am here to talk about MWH night and day non stop =) Michelle # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kathy beaupre" Subject: (hats) Open your eyes Ivan... Date: 29 Mar 1998 19:31:41 -0800 I need some help. Me and my xfriend have been fighting lately and it is not verry pretty. I recieved a e-mail from ivan@toxrecords.com today and it was not verry nice...do I have reason to believe Ivan sent it to me? or that Jolene my x friend hacked into his adress and sent it to me. OR that she has all along been sending Ivan threatning and abusive e-mails and got him mad at me? what do I do? I would hate Ivan to hate me...and if it is true it is a genuwine e-mail how do I tell Ivan it was not me? Michelle. *Most unimpressed* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Norman" Subject: Re: (hats) Open your eyes Ivan... Date: 29 Mar 1998 23:37:14 -0500 > I need some help. > Me and my xfriend have been fighting lately and it is not verry > pretty. > I recieved a e-mail from ivan@toxrecords.com today and it > was not verry nice...do I have reason to believe Ivan sent it to me? > or that Jolene my x friend hacked into his adress and sent it to me. > OR that she has all along been sending Ivan threatning and abusive > e-mails and got him mad at me? > > what do I do? > I would hate Ivan to hate me...and > if it is true it is a genuwine e-mail how do I > tell Ivan it was not me? Yikes! That is terrible. Does Jolene have your e-mail password? This would be the only way that she could have sent hate mail to Ivan with YOUR e-mail address. I am quite impressed that he actually replied to your e-mail. Ivan is a very busy guy and he NEVER has time to reply to his TOX e-mail much less read any of it. What did he say - that you said - exactly? Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Woody Zenfell Subject: Re: (hats) Open your eyes Ivan... Date: 30 Mar 1998 03:12:35 -0600 (CST) It seems to me much more likely that Jolene "spoofed" a message "from" Ivan's address. Making messages appear to come from an address not one's own is an old trick. It seems unlikely that all of a sudden, the "deaf" tox folks wake up and send a mean message (never mind Ivan himself). I doubt anyone up there at Tox was involved or knows anything about it. But, who knows? Shrug. Woody On Sun, 29 Mar 1998, Tom Norman wrote: > > I recieved a e-mail from ivan@toxrecords.com today and it > > was not verry nice...do I have reason to believe Ivan sent it to me? > > or that Jolene my x friend hacked into his adress and sent it to me. > > OR that she has all along been sending Ivan threatning and abusive > > e-mails and got him mad at me? > > Yikes! That is terrible. Does Jolene have your e-mail password? > This would be the only way that she could have sent hate mail to Ivan with > YOUR e-mail address. > > I am quite impressed that he actually replied to your e-mail. Ivan is a > very busy guy and he NEVER has time to reply to his TOX e-mail much less > read any of it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Holdman" Subject: (hats) VH1 Pop up video now online Date: 29 Mar 1998 09:49:57 +0000 Well I got my video card on friday and I have been messing around with it alot this weekend. I put the Safety Dance VH1 Pop up video online this morning. I converted two differnt ways. One is set for High Quality (14.2 meg) and low quality (2.6) The Web page can be found at http://www.holdman.com/mwh If you need a mpg player you can download a good one with a 30 day trial at http://www.xingtech.com -Richard Holdman Note: The CD-rom that I am making will have this video along with a bunch of other stuff I get put on it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" Subject: Re: (hats) do you know? Date: 30 Mar 1998 13:56:35 +0000 Hi Hatters! Michelle asked . . > I am wondering who from I could get the CD folk of the 80's and ROY/FOE3 > from? Thanks to Carl at Oglio and Mike in London (you guys should both be sainted!), I have several of the 2-fers (ROY and F80s3 on one disk) available. Contact me privately either at this address or at jlkramer@interpath.com for more details. Also, let's all remember to think positive thoughts for Francis and his daughter Tania. While he has been trying to help organize the private concert, Francis's baby daughter has been in the hospital for surgery. We're all pulling for you, Francis! :-) Laura # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniele Rossi Subject: (hats) Ivan or not Ivan Date: 30 Mar 1998 16:46:37 -0500 I am sory to hear that you and your friend aren't on good terms right now:( I doubt that Ivan would send you hate e-mail. Not only is it unprofessional (he owns Tox Records) but he doesn't seem to be the type of person to do that (some people on the list met him and say he is a very nice person). Unless your friend is a hacker genius, I doubt he/she hacked into his e-maila count and sent you that e-mail. With netscape, you can change your address to a different one. For example, your friend probably used netscape and changed his/her address to ivan@toxrecords.com. There are some web sites that let you send e-mail to others by changing your adress. Such sites let yous end hate mail to your boss, for example. Maybe that is what your friend did. If he/she actually sent you that mail. Maybe it was someone else playing a joke? I am not sure how you can verify that it was indeed Ivan or someone else who sent you the mail. I would discard it and pretend nothing happened. Your friend might eventually ask about it then you'll know for sure. I would wait to see if you get another one. Even if Ivan did send such an unlikely e-mail to you, I highly doubt he would send another one! :) He is a very very very busy person apparently flying fron Montreal, Toronto, and New York on a frequent basis. Does anyone know what he does in those cities? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Online Comic Book http://www.interlog.com/~daniele 883 Fan Page...dal Canada? http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3603 Spandau Ballet Unofficial Homepage http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/7994 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334 Subject: (hats) Ivan's private show --- UPDATE Date: 30 Mar 1998 18:20:01 EST Hi hatters. I spoke to Dave Byrne regarding our private show. Instead of giving my comments (because it's not something I want to put public), here is the answer I received for the show. --------------- Mr. Byrne :" I received some news from Ivan, he's not enthousiastic to do a MWH retrospective." Francis: "Money is not a problem, we are ready to pay 35$ per ticket, if we are 200, it's 7000$ PLUS tell him again we are the REAL FANS, only the cream" Mr. Byrne :" I already told that to Ivan." Francis :"If Ivan is alone, would it be possible to get old MWH songs ??" Mr. Byrne :" Unfortunately, there is only 2 songs from MWH, PGTW and SAFETY DANCE. He goes on stage with a DAT (instrumental version) and he is signing over". Francis: "Could you insist again???" Mr. Byrne :" I'll see what I can do." -------------- Ivan wants to be known as IVAN, the SOLO ARTIST. I have nothing more to add, I don't want to write bad words against the artist. I will wait any development this week, Don't worry, I WANT THIS SHOW. Are you interested to get Ivan only???? Ciao! Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334 Subject: (hats) Ivan's private show --- UPDATE Date: 30 Mar 1998 18:21:02 EST Hi hatters. I spoke to Dave Byrne regarding our private show. Instead of giving my comments (because it's not something I want to put public), here is the answer I received for the show. --------------- Mr. Byrne :" I received some news from Ivan, he's not enthousiastic to do a MWH retrospective." Francis: "Money is not a problem, we are ready to pay 35$ per ticket, if we are 200, it's 7000$ PLUS tell him again we are the REAL FANS, only the cream" Mr. Byrne :" I already told that to Ivan." Francis :"If Ivan is alone, would it be possible to get old MWH songs ??" Mr. Byrne :" Unfortunately, there is only 2 songs from MWH, PGTW and SAFETY DANCE. He goes on stage with a DAT (instrumental version) and he is signing over". Francis: "Could you insist again???" Mr. Byrne :" I'll see what I can do." -------------- Ivan wants to be known as IVAN, the SOLO ARTIST. I have nothing more to add, I don't want to write bad words against the artist. I will wait any development this week, Don't worry, I WANT THIS SHOW. Are you interested to get Ivan only???? Ciao! Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Donald Stroud Subject: (hats) Some levity amidst the tension Date: 30 Mar 1998 15:14:17 -0800 (PST) By request, I am resending my treasure trove of Ivan and MWH jokes, in the hope that their unbridled hilarity and explosive laugh-making will quell the rising tide of vitriol that has permeated this list, and in its place spread happiness and hand-holding and a feeling of pure joy. ========================================================================= REALLY FUNNY MEN WITHOUT HATS JOKES =================================== Q. What does Ivan wear when he's afraid he'll get mugged? A. The Safety Pants. *** Q. What is Ivan's favorite dessert? A. Tira-MITSOU. *** Q. What did Ivan's butcher say? A. "I got the sausage!" *** Ivan's friend Lee was a very talented tailor. One night, at a party, Lee began bragging about a wonderful roll of fabric he had bought. Ivan, his friend Richie, and Richie's wife Coco were at this party. They couldn't really believe that Lee's new fabric could be that exciting. A little aggravated, Lee dashed upstairs, intent on producing his purchase and showing them how fabulous it was. Alas, Lee had downed a few too many beers, and as he began to come down the stairs, an unwrapped flap of fabric slipped between his feet, tripping him up. He fell forward, the fabric unrolling around him as he tumbled. He came to a stop at the bottom of the stairs, unconcious and wrapped in cloth. Ivan saw all this, and yelled to the other people in the room: "Coco! Richie! Lee's tangled in velour!" *** Q. What did Ivan's Jewish friend ask him when he was looking for the Non-Jewish String Quartet's studio? A. "Where do the goys bow?" *** Q. What science topics does Ivan like to read about the most? A. Ant-articles. *** Don2 dstroud@captaina.Eng.Sun.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kathy beaupre" Subject: (hats) Thank you all Date: 30 Mar 1998 17:07:21 -0800 Well it seems to me Jolene faked the e-mail from Ivan.. you are right..if Tox has no time to 'update' there darn webpage why would they have the time to reply to a fan?! and as for Ivan.I never really doubted him..I didnt think he was that type of guy. but thanx for reasuring me your fan club friend ---Michelle # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Farnum Subject: (hats) clarity on "editions of you" Date: 31 Mar 1998 07:19:27 -0500 editions of you does not appeaar on either the 2fer or on the FO80's3 lp. it does however appear on the practice tape for FO80's3 in two different versions(that on cd 5). Two furhter confuse things on the collection the copy right is listed the same year as FO80's3. WAs it put out on ep that year or was it only available on the tape version. if any one can clarify this please do so quickly thanks whit # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Farnum Subject: (hats) this a test Date: 31 Mar 1998 11:57:53 -0500 please reply if you recive this iam not sure if my out going mail is actually leaving thanks whit # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniele Rossi Subject: (hats) clarify this too :) & Ivan's decision Date: 31 Mar 1998 15:58:56 -0500 about the song Freeways, is it an actual single or previously unreleased track? For it to be a single, it was released on an EP after RoY with 4 others songs which just happen to be the ones from their first EP. Yet, all the different versions were available on the RoY cassette. Then again, "Freeways" on the EP was a remix. Come to think of it, I guess that's why Ivan called it a secret single on the RoY tour. As for the private concert, it is a shame that Ivan doesn't want to do the concert. Personally, I don't mind. It would have been great, but you have to respect his wishes. I'm still going to Montreal this summer anyway (it's fun to travel!) but I wonder why Ivan wanted to be known as Ivan the solo artist an dnot Ivan the Men Without Hats. I mean, on Camilla Scott he said a Men Without Hats CD will be released some time from now. Maybe after all the hard work he put into "The Spell" he still wants to promote that and himself as a solo artist. Sure I'd be interested in seeng Ivan the solo artist but to tell you the truth, it would be too awkward. Or maybe I am hopeing to get a chance to see Men Without Hats in concert as i wasn't able to before. I know Ivan as Men Without Hats not Ivan as th solo artist. Maybe it's too soon to think that way. If he relased another solo album, then it can be safe to think of him as the solo artist. Well, whatever Ivan says, I wouldn't be too sad. We tried our best (LOTS OF APPLAUS TO FRANCIS!!) and got father than we ever thought imaginable. Hey, Ivan seems to be considering it, after all he or his manager asked if we would be interested in only Ivan the solo artist performing. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Online Comic Book http://www.interlog.com/~daniele 883 Fan Page...dal Canada? http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3603 Spandau Ballet Unofficial Homepage http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/7994 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Norman" Subject: Re: (hats) clarify this too :) & Ivan's decision Date: 31 Mar 1998 17:57:19 -0500 > about the song Freeways, is it an actual single or previously unreleased > track? For it to be a single, it was released on an EP after RoY with 4 > others songs which just happen to be the ones from their first EP. Yet, all > the different versions were available on the RoY cassette. Then again, > "Freeways" on the EP was a remix. Come to think of it, I guess that's why > Ivan called it a secret single on the RoY tour. Wasn't the 7" for National7 released before ROY and right after FOLKI. Back then Freeways was called National7 only. I am almost positive that all the other versions were also recorded in 80 as well. Freeways Euromix, may have been remixed in 85 but im not sure. Anyone? > As for the private concert, it is a shame that Ivan doesn't want to do the > concert. Personally, I don't mind. It would have been great, but you have > to respect his wishes. > Well, whatever Ivan says, I wouldn't be too sad. We tried our best (LOTS OF > APPLAUS TO FRANCIS!!) and got father than we ever thought imaginable. Hey, > Ivan seems to be considering it, after all he or his manager asked if we > would be interested in only Ivan the solo artist performing. You all have to remember, Ivan is very busy with his "The Spell" Tour. He is also very busy working on a new album -- at the same time. In order for this concert to happen, Ivan would have to not only switch to his older keyboards, but relearn how to play them and learn Alan M's parts as well. Then he would need to put together ANOTHER tour theme -- just for our one show. This would take a great deal of time. I am guessing that this is why Ivan is against it. Not worth the effort to put together a whole ACT for just one show. Tom tnorman@mail.netwalk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cpisarr1@ic3.ithaca.edu Subject: Re: (hats) clarify this too :) & Ivan's decision Date: 31 Mar 1998 17:55:05 -0500 (EST) Is there a show or not? Did we agree to Ivan performing as a solo artist or not? I am a confused person. But at least the weather is beautiful up here in Ithaca. Collin ****************************** MAY THIS E-MAIL SUCCEED WHY THE E-MAILS OF MY FRIENDS FAIL..YET MAY I ALWAYS BE PERCEIVED AS A TEAM PLAYER *********** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aerechui Subject: (hats) freeways Date: 31 Mar 1998 19:12:52 EST my friend has a 12" of the extended mix of i got the message. freeways is the b-side. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JDivito334 Subject: (hats) Ivan's private show Date: 31 Mar 1998 20:00:20 EST Hey! I still have to wait the final answer... IT's not over till it's over!!!! Ciao Francis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) Oh, and one more thing... Date: 31 Mar 1998 21:10:05 -0500 (EST) Angie wanted me to let everybody know that she doesn't look at all the same now and that her two pictures with Ivan are the worst pictures of her that have ever been taken! But doesn't everybody say that about every picture they're in? :-) Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ccampbell@spindle.net (ccampbell@spindle.net) Subject: (hats) returned messages Date: 31 Mar 1998 20:56:37 -0600 To R. Holdman: My message to you in regard to the MWH CD-ROM keeps bouncing back. It this your current e-mail address? richardh@alexanders.com C.Campbell # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORD HASENPFEFFER Subject: (hats) A Moment We've All Been Waiting For... Date: 31 Mar 1998 21:06:43 -0500 (EST) ...although most of you didn't know it until now, I would imagine! Our friend, Angie, sent to me a stack of photos from her private collection of when she attended a Men Without Hats concert in July 1985 in Providence, Rhode Island; USA. Also included were two photos of her and Ivan inside the tour bus when they met, again in Providence, in March 1988. Finally! Finally! Finally! They are all scanned and available online via my website for one and all to see. I've written a separate little HTML file for each image so that they can be viewed in "slideshow" fashion. Just click on each image to get to the next one in the series. The final image loops back around to my own hats page, from where you will have entered the slideshow loop. http://people.delphi.com/mykec/hats88.htm is the URL you need to access. Then just click on the MWH logo at the top of the page. That logo is now "Angie's Secret Link"! :-) My site is best browsed at 600x800 resolution, fyi. I didn't have time to putty up the HTML this evening so that the borders around the pictures look fairly similar without regard to which browser you use to view them. If you're using Netscape they'll look great. If you're using Exploder, everything will look really white and messy around the actual .gifs. I'll see about getting this fixed before the end of the week. Sorry that it took so long to get this done, Angie. Nevertheless it is finished. I may go back and rescan a few of the pix though as these were all scanned in haste because my time with the scanner here at work is quite limited. Myke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info hats" in the message. # Postings must go to hats@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Men Without Hats discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?hats