From: vischer@access.ch Subject: (klf) Protest gegen die unfairen =?iso-8859-1?Q?eBay=2DGeb=FChren?= Date: 01 Feb 2000 17:36:27 +0100 Sorry for posting that to this list! All eBay.de-users should forward this to the following eMail-address: mailto:qualitaet@ebay.de Thank you very much! Simon PROTEST! PROTEST! PROTEST! PROTEST! PROTEST! Liebe eBay-K=E4ufer und Verk=E4ufer! Bald wird es keine billigen Schn=E4ppchen mehr auf eBay.de geben! eBay.de hat in seinem letzten Newsletter angek=FCndigt, dass es ab dem 5. Februar 2000 f=FCr jeden eingegebenen Artikel eine Geb=FChr verlangen wir= d (DEM 0.25 f=FCr Artikel zwischen 0.-- und 9.-- / DEM 0.50 f=FCr Artikel zwischen 10.-- und 49.-- / DEM 1.00 f=FCr Artikel =FCber 50.--). Diese Geb=FChr wird nicht nur f=FCr jeden _verkauften_ Artikel erhoben, sondern f=FCr jedes Mal _aufschalten_! Das bedeutet f=FCr die Verk=E4ufer, dass es sich nicht mehr lohnen wird, billige Schn=E4ppchen anzubieten, die doch den wesentlichen Reiz von eBay.de ausmachen! Die verbleibenden Artikel werden teurer. Das Angebot wird langweiliger und kleiner! F=FCr den K=E4ufer bedeutet dies, dass gerade die Schn=E4ppchen zwischen = DEM 1.00 und DEM 10.00 nach und nach verschwinden werden. Das ist sehr schade, konnte man doch bislang sehr viele Artikel finden, die es sonst nirgendwo mehr gab! In Zukunft werden vermehrt professionelle H=E4ndler auf Kosten der vielen privaten Anbieter ihre Ware verkaufen - und das meistens ziemlich teuer. Wenn man teure und/oder neuwertige Ware kaufen m=F6chte, kann man das geradesogut in der Stadt oder in jeden beliebigen Kaufhaus tun - f=FCr da= s braucht es eBay.de nicht! Protestieren und wehren wir uns gemeinsam gegen diese ungerechte und unfaire Vorgehensweise von eBay.de! Wir fordern eBay.de auf, diese Ank=FCndigung mit sofortiger Wirkung zur=FCckzunehmen! Bitte schickt diesen Protest mit oder ohne Unterschrift an folgende Adresse von eBay.de in Berlin: mailto:qualitaet@ebay.de (qualitaet@ebay.de) Schickt diesen Protest auch an alle Euch bekannten K=E4ufer und Verk=E4uf= er von eBay.de, damit unser Protest Erfolg hat, und wir weiterhin aus einer Vielzahl von g=FCnstigen Schn=E4ppchen ausw=E4hlen k=F6nnen! PROTEST! PROTEST! PROTEST! PROTEST! PROTEST! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Kuta" Subject: (klf) Lars Nellemann Date: 01 Feb 2000 18:16:45 GMT Hi! Lars, could you please contact me? Got some questions... Tnx, DAN --- DJ Kuta /KLF Online (www.klf.de) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shilo & Michele Maggi Subject: Re: (klf) Protest gegen die unfairen eBay-Geb =?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=hren Date: 01 Feb 2000 10:23:02 -0800 i use the US version of ebay, but as i am having some issues with them, i a= m curious as to what this message is all about... > Liebe eBay-K=E4ufer und Verk=E4ufer! >=20 >=20 > Bald wird es keine billigen Schn=E4ppchen mehr auf eBay.de geben! >=20 >=20 > eBay.de hat in seinem letzten Newsletter angek=FCndigt, dass es ab dem 5. > Februar 2000 f=FCr jeden eingegebenen Artikel eine Geb=FChr verlangen wird > (DEM 0.25 f=FCr Artikel zwischen 0.-- und 9.-- / DEM 0.50 f=FCr Artikel > zwischen 10.-- und 49.-- / DEM 1.00 f=FCr Artikel =FCber 50.--). Diese > Geb=FChr wird nicht nur f=FCr jeden _verkauften_ Artikel erhoben, sondern > f=FCr jedes Mal _aufschalten_! >=20 > Das bedeutet f=FCr die Verk=E4ufer, dass es sich nicht mehr lohnen wird, > billige Schn=E4ppchen anzubieten, die doch den wesentlichen Reiz von > eBay.de ausmachen! Die verbleibenden Artikel werden teurer. Das Angebot > wird langweiliger und kleiner! >=20 > F=FCr den K=E4ufer bedeutet dies, dass gerade die Schn=E4ppchen zwischen DEM > 1.00 und DEM 10.00 nach und nach verschwinden werden. Das ist sehr > schade, konnte man doch bislang sehr viele Artikel finden, die es sonst > nirgendwo mehr gab! >=20 > In Zukunft werden vermehrt professionelle H=E4ndler auf Kosten der vielen > privaten Anbieter ihre Ware verkaufen - und das meistens ziemlich teuer. > Wenn man teure und/oder neuwertige Ware kaufen m=F6chte, kann man das > geradesogut in der Stadt oder in jeden beliebigen Kaufhaus tun - f=FCr das > braucht es eBay.de nicht! >=20 > Protestieren und wehren wir uns gemeinsam gegen diese ungerechte und > unfaire Vorgehensweise von eBay.de! >=20 > Wir fordern eBay.de auf, diese Ank=FCndigung mit sofortiger Wirkung > zur=FCckzunehmen! >=20 >=20 > Bitte schickt diesen Protest mit oder ohne Unterschrift an folgende > Adresse von eBay.de in Berlin: mailto:qualitaet@ebay.de > (qualitaet@ebay.de) >=20 >=20 > Schickt diesen Protest auch an alle Euch bekannten K=E4ufer und Verk=E4ufer > von eBay.de, damit unser Protest Erfolg hat, und wir weiterhin aus einer > Vielzahl von g=FCnstigen Schn=E4ppchen ausw=E4hlen k=F6nnen! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vischer@access.ch Subject: Re: (klf) Protest gegen die unfairen eBay-Gebuehren Date: 01 Feb 2000 23:05:28 +0100 eBay.de wants to charge a fee for every article you put on. If you don't sell it the first time you have to pay the fee once again. So if you have a cheap article to sell and it is only sold after the third time, then you have to pay the fee three times. It is hardly worthwhile for the seller so he won't offer those cheap article again. So if you are looking for cheap article you won't find it anymore. I have found several cd's (e.g.) for less money I couldn't find elsewhere. I won't hardly find them again if all seller have to pay that unfair fee. That's it. Sorry for my bad english.. *smile* Simon Shilo & Michele Maggi schrieb: > i use the US version of ebay, but as i am having some issues with them, i am > curious as to what this message is all about... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shilo & Michele Maggi Subject: Re: (klf) Protest gegen die unfairen eBay-Gebuehren Date: 01 Feb 2000 15:29:58 -0800 Simon- Thanks for the info. We've been in the same boat here for a while with Ebay. Somewhat standard business practice. Offering a product (or service) in the beginning for near free to draw customers in, then once you have a solid base rasing prices to cover the costs of a growing company. Its not necessarily right or wrong, and thankfully, due to a growing market, we as consumers have alternatives. -s- > eBay.de wants to charge a fee for every article you put on. If you don't sell > it > the first time you have to pay the fee once again. So if you have a cheap > article to sell and it is only sold after the third time, then you have to pay > the fee three times. It is hardly worthwhile for the seller so he won't offer > those cheap article again. > So if you are looking for cheap article you won't find it anymore. > I have found several cd's (e.g.) for less money I couldn't find elsewhere. I > won't hardly find them again if all seller have to pay that unfair fee. > > That's it. Sorry for my bad english.. *smile* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik Subject: Re: (klf) Protest gegen die unfairen eBay-Gebuehren Date: 01 Feb 2000 22:22:46 +0100 At 10:23 01.02.00 -0800, wrote: >i use the US version of ebay, but as i am having some issues with them, >i am curious as to what this message is all about... Ebay.de plan to bill people not only for selling stuff with them, but as well if you _don't_ sell the thing, just for advertising it. This will probably lead to people no longer being able to offer cheap things, and professional merchands will take over (according to the author of the message). Since this goes for the german version only (at least the mail didn't mention anything else) there is little you can do. German ebay users could write to ebay.de and protest. I think ebay is for us KLF collectors of some improtance, but I feel we should not discuss this here, as dear Lazlo might kick our behinds for getting too far off topic ;) :-) erik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephane MONTHIEU" Subject: (klf) cd format Date: 02 Feb 2000 01:47:10 PST Hi all, I'm French and I don't understand the difference between 'with longbox' or 'without longbox' in the discog. What is a longbox? Thanx Stephane "Steve M.D." MONTHIEU "Ladies and gentlemen, The KLF has now left the building..." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Vangus" Subject: (klf) German & French record shops? Date: 02 Feb 2000 09:48:03 +0100 Hi everybody! =20 This is slightly out of this lists main topic, but could still be of great interest to most of you. =20 Every now and then useful tips about where=20 to find KLF items are posted to this list. Most of us has some knowledge about the most famous record shops in the UK and US. =20 What I would like to know now is if there's any good record shops in Germany and France that sells either ...=20 =20 - New CD's, or - Dance music, or - Rarities from the 80's & 90's =20 Anyone? =20 Thanks in advance =20 / Robert Vangus =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremiah Rickert Subject: (klf) History of the Jams (ebay nonsense) Date: 02 Feb 2000 05:25:57 -0800 (PST) Is this thing really that hard to find? I mean, $27? I seem them all over the place. He's hawking it like the UK one is different, but it was my impression that the Aussie version is the one that is rare, doesn't it contain Prestwich Prophet's Grin? jr Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) History of the Jams (ebay nonsense) Date: 02 Feb 2000 09:16:47 EST > Is this thing really that hard to find? I mean, $27? > I seem them all over the place. He's hawking it > like the UK one is different, but it was my impression > that the Aussie version is the one that is rare, > doesn't it contain Prestwich Prophet's Grin? Disaster Fund Collection. ...and according to the discog it wasn't released in the UK. It was released in the US and OZ and is essentially the first half of Shag Times with the remix of Porpoise Song (or DFC in Oz). Plus he's claiming it was only issued in the UK... But hey, if someone wants to pay $30 for it... You know, I think I have a few spares of things lying around.... -paul Currently in rotation: Doo Wop - various, Enigma - Screen Behind the Mirror, That Was Close - Art of Noise # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuey & Michelle Subject: Re: (klf) This is what The KLF Liberated about! Date: 03 Feb 2000 03:09:33 +1300 "Mr. Flewin" wrote: > Has anyone ever made a list of EVERYTHING The > KLF in all their glorious incarnations has ever illegally sampled, pardon > me, Liberated? Including a list of the stuff they might have actually been > able to liberate without fear [Legal samples] > > I mean, it'd probably be a really huge list, but very interesting to peruse. I can't believe no-one remembered it was me that assembled the sample list, or that no-one could find a URL for it. Yes it does exist, so I emailed Mr Flewin a copy of it. It was assembled in 1994 and hasn't changed since. Perhaps Mr Flewin would like to take over responsibility for updating it? :-) Stuey -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Did you know Stuey is the webmaster of the NZ Green Party? http://www.greens.org.nz/ Stuey's groovy website is direly in need of updating: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: Re: (klf) cd format Date: 02 Feb 2000 16:12:56 +0100 >=20 > I'm French and I don't understand the difference between 'with = longbox' or=20 > 'without longbox' in the discog. >=20 > What is a longbox? When the marked shifted from Vinyl to CD, the US record-companies was = afraid that the record-stores would look empty, with all those tiny CDs, so = they invented the longbox - a cardboard box about the double size of the CD, that contained no more than the CD itself, but had the double size. So when you purchased a CD in the US, you had to peel of the wrapper of the longbox, then open the cardboard box, then peel the wrapper of the jewel-box itself, before you could get to the CD. Somehow the people in charge in Europe didn't think that the customers=20 would be fooled by the smaller size of a CD, and thus they never = introduced this to the European marked. lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Robinson Subject: Re: (klf) cd format Date: 02 Feb 2000 15:33:07 +0000 Lars Nellemann wrote: > When the marked shifted from Vinyl to CD, the US record-companies was afraid > that the record-stores would look empty, with all those tiny CDs... Another reason is that CD's will fit quickly and easily in a thief's pocket, whereas a 'longbox' is more difficult to conceal. I think the seller of the item is trying to boost it's value by mentioning the longbox, as only the early copies of the album came with one (it's quite nice BTW, it's the "made in wales" album cover photo) - AFAIK the whole longbox concept was dropped after a potracted battle and boycott by environ,entalists in the USA who complained the packaging was wasteful. - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thorne, Chris" Subject: (klf) Crapola Website Date: 02 Feb 2000 10:52:39 -0500 Below is some info on the Crapola website, not sure if it means anything to anyone: Registrant: Crapola Records (CRAPOLARECORDS-DOM) C/o Haris Shah Mgr, 55 Loudoun Road St John's Wood, London NW8 0DL UK Domain Name: CRAPOLARECORDS.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Demon Internet Hostmaster (DEMON-HM) hostmaster@DEMON.NET +44-181-371-1000 Fax- +44-181-371-1167 Billing Contact: Demon Internet Hostmaster (DEMON-HM) hostmaster@DEMON.NET +44-181-371-1000 Fax- +44-181-371-1167 Record last updated on 24-Sep-1999. Record created on 24-Sep-1999. Database last updated on 2-Feb-2000 03:18:36 EST. Domain servers in listed order: NS0.DEMON.CO.UK 158.152.1.65 NS1.DEMON.CO.UK 158.152.1.193 NS2.DEMON.NET 207.69.194.186 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shilo & Michele Maggi Subject: Re: (klf) cd format Date: 02 Feb 2000 10:18:07 -0800 > So when you purchased a CD in the US, you had to peel of the wrapper > of the longbox, then open the cardboard box, then peel the wrapper of > the jewel-box itself, before you could get to the CD. I dont remember the inner cds being shrinkwrapped. Anyways, another reason that longboxes came about was due to laziness of the stores themselves. You could fit two rows on longboxes in a rack that previously held one row of 12"s. To fit naked CDs, stores had to purchase new racks to for the entire store Costly, expecially to take ona format that the music undustry had forced on the public. Anyone remember how quickly the quality of vinyl (in the US at least) dropped once they started pushing cds? Ive a couple releases from the late 80's that you can shine a light through (and no, theyre not supposed to be clear vinyl!) -s- -- Shilo Maggi Electronic Entertainment Editor BPM Culture Magazine # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Kuta" Subject: (klf) No More Tears Date: 03 Feb 2000 02:54:23 GMT Does anyone happen to have a copy of this No More Tears Promo single? --- DJ Kuta /KLF Online (www.klf.de) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shilo & Michele Maggi Subject: Re: (klf) No More Tears Date: 02 Feb 2000 19:31:10 -0800 Make it rain / No More Tears? I've one. Why? -s- -- Shilo Maggi Electronic Entertainment Editor BPM Culture Magazine > > Does anyone happen to have a copy of this No More Tears Promo single? > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hellboy@ihug.co.nz Subject: (klf) Help album Date: 03 Feb 2000 18:40:00 +1300 Does anyone know the tracklist of the Help album? DAN 7: Massive Attack: Fake the Aroma The Massive attack track is a remix of Karmacoma, although listed as Fake the Aroma no idea why, maybe name of remix i spose # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jon Subject: Re: (klf) No More Tears Date: 02 Feb 2000 22:55:07 -0800 It's on ebay right now at: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=246438781 It's got a few more days to go (mint condition copy...) Take care, jon At 02:54 AM 2/3/2000 GMT, you wrote: > >Does anyone happen to have a copy of this No More Tears Promo single? > > >--- > >DJ Kuta /KLF Online (www.klf.de) > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jerry Quartley Subject: Re: (klf) Help album Date: 03 Feb 2000 09:03:26 -0500 hellboy@ihug.co.nz wrote: > > Does anyone know the tracklist of the Help album? > > DAN > > 7: Massive Attack: Fake the Aroma > > The Massive attack track is a remix of Karmacoma, although listed as > Fake the Aroma no idea why, maybe name of remix i spose 1 Fade Away - Oasis And Friends 2 Oh Brother - The Boo Radleys 3 Love Spreads - The Stone Rose 4 Lucky - Radiohead 5 Adnan - Orbital 6 Mourning Air - Portishead 7 Fake The Aroma - Massive Attack 8 Shipbuilding - Suede 9 Time For Living - The Charlatans 10 Sweetest Truth - Stereo MC's 11 Ode To Billie Joe - Sinead O'Connor 12 Search Lights - The Levellers 13 Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head - Manic Street Preachers 14 Tom Petty Loves Veruca Salt - Terrorvision 15 The Magnificent - The One World Orchestra 16 Message To Crommie - Planet 4 Folk Quartet 17 Dream A Little Dream Of Me - Terry Hall/Salad 18 1,2,3,4,5 - Neneh Cherry 19 Eine Kleine Liftmusic - Blur 20 Come Together - Paul Weller And Friends/Paul McCartney It is only those who do nothing, who make no mistakes. Joseph Conrad ==================================================== Jerry Quartley.....................jrq@interport.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shahar Subject: (klf) 45 Date: 03 Feb 2000 17:37:56 +0200 The Drummond book should be out today, did anyone see it (and bought a copy)? Shahar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Lundberg Subject: (klf) Bill's biog... Date: 03 Feb 2000 14:46:37 +0000 Hi all, I was given a copy of Bill's autobiography '45' yesterday by the publisher... Apparently it's going to be in the shops in a month or two. Later, John -- john lundberg: circlemakers: mailto:john@circlemakers.org http://www.circlemakers.org [ there is no art without risk ::: jean cocteau ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (klf) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:22:30 -0000 Date: 03 Feb 2000 10:24:15 -0700 hello klf list, what should I expect to get for my copy of '1987' and is there a list of prices for other klf stuff should I become even more poverty struck than now? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) Bill's biog... Date: 03 Feb 2000 17:14:10 +0000 (GMT) > I was given a copy of Bill's autobiography '45' yesterday by the > publisher... Apparently it's going to be in the shops in a month or > two. *another* month, or *two*??? (sigh) Supposed to be early Feb ... Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Fox Subject: Re: (klf) Bill's biog... Date: 04 Feb 2000 10:22:10 +0000 I want it now! How much does Mr Lundberg want his for? >> I was given a copy of Bill's autobiography '45' yesterday by the >> publisher... Apparently it's going to be in the shops in a month or >> two. > > *another* month, or *two*??? (sigh) Supposed to be early Feb ... > > Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Allan" Subject: (klf) RE: Bills Biog Date: 04 Feb 2000 18:46:15 +0000 I've just been to my local Waterstones bookshop. According to their computer "45" was published yesterday (3/2/2000). They had none in stock but have ordered a copy for me. So I guess you should be able to get it in a BIG bookshop! Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: (klf) eBay stuff Date: 05 Feb 2000 14:15:24 EST In case anyone's interested, I put a couple things up on ebay, most significantly is a copy of Ultra Rare Trax, and the remix single of So Hard. KLF URT - http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=253689756 KLF vs PSB - http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=253766797 -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark lewis" Subject: (klf) rare klf Date: 06 Feb 2000 01:27:02 GMT any info out there about what happened to "madrugada eterna"-'dance mix', "what time is love story"lp, "waiting"-'video'. any info would be very welcome. -mark ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) rare klf Date: 05 Feb 2000 21:43:48 EST > any info out there about what happened to > "madrugada eterna"-'dance mix', - bootleg release. probably not an official remix > "what time is love story"lp, - released, LP, CD. Discontinued. > "waiting"-'video'. - released, mail order only. Discontinued. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hellboy@ihug.co.nz Subject: (klf) help album Date: 07 Feb 2000 17:42:33 +1300 hellboy@ihug.co.nz [mailto:hellboy@ihug.co.nz] wrote: > Does anyone know the tracklist of the Help album? > > DAN > > 7: Massive Attack: Fake the Aroma > > > The Massive attack track is a remix of Karmacoma, although listed as > Fake the Aroma no idea why, maybe name of remix i spose yeah, the mad professor remixes were all given different 'sound-a-like' titles... this could be one of those ah didnt think of that one, tho ive heard that album should be avoided like the plague cos its poo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremiah Rickert Subject: (klf) 1987 on Ebay??? Date: 07 Feb 2000 05:44:48 -0800 (PST) I saw a copy of 1987 on ebay, but the odd thing is, the guy listed the tracks in the order they appear on the bootlegs, that is, sides 1 and 2 are flipped. Was there a vinyl bootleg that had a black and white cover? anyway jr Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: E.Hatton@plymouth.ac.uk Subject: Re: (klf) KLF crop circle Date: 07 Feb 2000 15:29:21 +0000 Cc: klf@lists.xmission.com, reed@zerohour.net > Early August 1990 (quite possibly July 31st) the KLF logo crop circle was > swirled into one of David Read's fields north of the Wansdyke, Wiltshire. Mr > Read the farmer is alledged to have confirmed that two members of the KLF, > plus one of their wives and filmaker Bill Butt created the formation ......this sounds like an article by Stewart Home that I've read for my thesis, he admits it was a hoax. Erika xx # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) rare klf Date: 07 Feb 2000 10:09:19 -0600 There was someone on this list by the name of jon masciana [jmascian@UCSD.Edu] that has the original 2 sided Madrugada Eterna and confirmed that it is the same mix as the one sided bootleg. I think there is at least one other person who has an original and can confirm this as well. > any info out there about what happened to > "madrugada eterna"-'dance mix', - bootleg release. probably not an official remix # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Seiner" Subject: (klf) Price Question Date: 07 Feb 2000 19:28:22 +0100 Hi Can anyone tell me street prices for the following things i have in my collection and dont need anymore America : WTIL 12" promotion picture disc Chill out CD Stadium House Video This is what the KLF is about I 1987 Bootleg LP Its grim up North japanese CD single K cera cera CD single History of the Jams LP (still sealed) Doctorin the Tardis 12" thanx Klaus P.S: Offers also welcome :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: illitrate Subject: Re: (klf) KLF crop circle Date: 07 Feb 2000 19:37:35 +0000 >> Early August 1990 (quite possibly July 31st) the KLF logo crop circle was >> swirled into one of David Read's fields north of the Wansdyke, Wiltshire. Mr >> Read the farmer is alledged to have confirmed that two members of the KLF, >> plus one of their wives and filmaker Bill Butt created the formation > >......this sounds like an article by Stewart Home that I've read for >my thesis, he >admits it was a hoax. as i recall, someone had set up a whole load of cameras and sensing equipement and all sorts on this farmer's field in the hope that they'd catch a glipmse of whatever it was doing all the crop circles. and one nite Bill and Jimmi did the pyramid blaster logo in the field behind. but that may just be one of those urban legend type things. -- jai nelson jai@illitrate.cx http://www.illitrate.cx --- "Egon, this reminds me of the time you tried to drill a hole through your head, remember that?" "That would have worked if you hadn't stopped me." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LiquidW@aol.com Subject: (klf) (no subject) Date: 07 Feb 2000 14:53:38 EST coming sooner than you think ....... www.ALIENOUTPOST.com thank you LiquidW # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Positive Void Subject: RE: (klf) rare klf Date: 07 Feb 2000 17:29:54 -0500 Message text written by Don Gagen >I think there is at least one other person who has an original and can confirm this as well.< correct # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: RE: (klf) Price Question Date: 08 Feb 2000 01:06:40 +0100 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-klf@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-klf@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Klaus Seiner > Sent: lundi 7 f=E9vrier 2000 19:28 > To: klf@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (klf) Price Question > > > > Hi > > Can anyone tell me street prices for the following things i have in my > collection and dont need anymore > Heres what i would pay for them : > America : WTIL 12" promotion picture disc > Chill out CD depends which one. TVT, KLF COMM JAMSCD5, COMA 4, JAMSCD89005 ? > Stadium House Video =A315 > This is what the KLF is about I =A335-=A340 > 1987 Bootleg LP =A325 > Its grim up North japanese CD single From This is what KLF is about II ? > K cera cera CD single =A350 > History of the Jams LP (still sealed) =A325 > Doctorin the Tardis 12" Which one ? Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt Anniss" Subject: (klf) Bill's biography Date: 07 Feb 2000 19:36:07 +0000 Hello, I spoke to someone from Little Brown publishers today, about Bill's biography. They said it would now be coming out on March 3. This would explain why you can't buy it in the shops! I also got confirmation that I've got an interview with Bill, to talk about the book and KLF / Jams stuff (it only took a month of pestering!). If any of you have questions you desperately want asking, mail them to me and I'll try and squeeze 'em in. I can't promise anything, but I'll give it a go! The interview will be appearing 'exclusively' on Amazon.co.uk and Beats & Breaks (www.beatsandbreaks.co.uk) - the Net's newest quality dance music magazine... Matt Beats & Breaks. quality dance music online. www.beatsandbreaks.co.uk email: matt@beatsandbreaks.co.uk click for enlightenment. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Abel Subject: (klf) Bill drummond in the london metro Date: 08 Feb 2000 09:30:22 -0000 Bill drummond gets a little feature today in the Merto paper in london (and elsewhere?) Just a small 2 column piece on him flogging his biography dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephane MONTHIEU" Subject: Re: (klf) Price Question Date: 08 Feb 2000 03:58:57 PST >Hi > >Can anyone tell me street prices for the following things i have in my >collection and dont need anymore Here are the prices I saw... >America : WTIL 12" promotion picture disc Ģ100 >Chill out CD Ģ25 >Stadium House Video Ģ15 >This is what the KLF is about I Ģ30 >1987 Bootleg LP ? >Its grim up North japanese CD single ? >K cera cera CD single Ģ50 >History of the Jams LP (still sealed) ? >Doctorin the Tardis 12" Ģ10 >thanx > >Klaus > >P.S: Offers also welcome :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reed Hedges Subject: Re: (klf) KLF crop circle Date: 08 Feb 2000 00:14:53 -0500 > > as i recall, someone had set up a whole load of cameras and sensing > equipement and all sorts on this farmer's field in the hope that > they'd catch a glipmse of whatever it was doing all the crop circles. > and one nite Bill and Jimmi did the pyramid blaster logo in the field behind. diddn't they put a ouiji board in the middle or something? rh -- * visit charming... * * zerohour.net * * "wow, we haven't seen anything like this in the past 15 minutes!" * * [ http://www.zerohour.net ] * * featuring * * zero hour bbs / information relay [ http://www.zerohour.net/zhbbs ] * # ------------------------------- agentk, dwarf toad, mem.ry.chronic.ler, k:k: # ------------------------------- Reed Hedges # ------------------------------- reed@zerohour.net # ------------------------------- http://www.zerohour.net/reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mhumph@tesco.net Subject: RE: (klf) Bill drummond in the london metro Date: 08 Feb 2000 02:55:44 -0800 --- Original Message --- Dan Abel Wrote on Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:30:22 -0000 ------------------ >Bill drummond gets a little feature today in the >Merto paper in london (and elsewhere?) Yeah, and they screw up in the very first paragraph! "Who: Bill Drummond, entrepreneur, manager, pop star, director, author and all-round candidate for the title of Greatest Living Englishman" Ha ha! Mark ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John.C.S.Quel" Subject: (klf) FUCKing THE MILLENNIUM Dome Date: 07 Feb 2000 22:17:15 +0000 Just to let you all know a bit in advance that this week`s edition of The Mark Thomas Product (11:00pm Ch4 Thursday) not only features a few snippets of 2K`s FTM, but also shows just how easy it is for a rather large group of infiltrators to get in and fuck about in the zones of the doomed dome for a few hours before getting surrounded by masses of security/police and then being forced to leave... BTW we're all going to ask for refunds! ;-) By some strange quirk I somehow was 'the one that got away' and managed to stay in there for a few more hours after everyone else had been escorted out before being driven mad by the damned place. There`s a helluva lot of potential for pranks there (but do them now while you still can and it still exists!) and there`s pretty much nothing to interest the typical KLF fan apart from a rather relaxing kaleidoscopic chill out zone (that is also crying out to be be pranked big time!) Hopefully, be back there soon (to fuck their millennium over yet again) either on May Day or before... Heh! :-) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |+-+-+-+- The Mark Thomas Product -+-+-+-+| +-.=""=.--.=""=.--.="""=.--.=""=.--.=""=.-+ |/ O O \/ OOOO \/ FOUR \/ O O \/ OOOO \| || OOOO || OOOO || MAT || OOOO || OOOO || |\ OOOO /\ OO /\ TRAP /\ OOOO /\ OO /| +-'=..='--'=..='--'=...='--'=..='--'=..='-+ |+-+ http://www.fnord.demon.co.uk/mt +-+| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson Subject: (klf) MP3s? Date: 08 Feb 2000 12:37:28 -0800 (PST) hey folks, i finally got around to somewhat figuring out this whole MP3 thingy out, so wheres that site where i can find all these KLF MP3s? thers some site with like 1987, and all this stuff, whoever posted about ECC mentioned it? sorry if im a bit slow, but well im tryin to find some cool MP3s now. if anyone wants to see some sites where you can find rare Moby, i have some, so i could hook u up if u want. thanks for help! OIZO Jobson ===== Even MTV BIGWIGS have heart attacks!!!!! SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com Hotel Detective PHIZZO JOBSON from The Ministry of 'Ousinje (aka >>>>>PAUL<<<<<) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Sulston Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 on Ebay??? Date: 08 Feb 2000 09:37:22 +0000 Jeremiah Rickert wrote: > I saw a copy of 1987 on ebay, but the odd thing is, the guy listed the > tracks in the order they appear on the bootlegs, that is, sides 1 and 2 > are flipped. > Was there a vinyl bootleg that had a black and white cover? IIRC the orignial was B&W (well, mine is) and the boot was Red & white.... -- Tom Sulston ICQ# 31612067 Mr_Tom on #agf - http://www.warwick.ac.uk/~bsumq - Not bitchy, just snobbish and intolerant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) Bill drummond in the london metro Date: 08 Feb 2000 20:44:07 -0000 > >Bill drummond gets a little feature today in the > >Merto paper in london (and elsewhere?) It's in today's Midland Metro. Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) Price Question Date: 08 Feb 2000 20:44:09 -0000 I accidentally sent this to Klaus himself yesterday, rather than the list. Thought I'd try again... ======= You've got some interesting things there. My A:WTIL picture disc has a price sticker on it saying 25 UKP - I think I bought it a year or so ago; if your "Chill Out" CD is an original UK release then you could get something in the region of 30 to 35 UKP (around $50) - perhaps more. I've seen both "This Is What The KLF Is About" volumes listed for around 40 UKP. One website has TISTKIA II listed at 50 UKP, but it must have been listed there for six months at least at that price, so that suggests to me that 50 UKP is too high. I'm not sure about the others, I don't think the standard "Doctorin' The Tardis" is worth very much. The Japanese IGUN CD single doesn't appear to be in the discography. What tracks does it contain? Hope this is helpful - and perhaps someone else can offer some views too. Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: (klf) Re: klf-digest V2 #288 Date: 08 Feb 2000 16:44:20 -0000 > From: hellboy@ihug.co.nz > Subject: (klf) help album > yeah, the mad professor remixes were all given different 'sound-a-like' > titles... this could be one of those > > ah didnt think of that one, tho ive heard that album should be avoided > like the plague cos its poo If you mean the Mad Professor Remix album (No Protection?), well, it never did much for me that's for sure. But if you're referring to the Help compilation I wouldn't say that was "poo" at all, quite the opposite - even without a rare appearance by Bill & Jimmy it was IMHO one of the best compilations of recent years. Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christian Bengtsson Subject: (klf) phonebashing Date: 09 Feb 2000 08:25:53 +0100 (CET) Anyhone seen this? http://www.phonebashing.com/ /Christian.. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephen ives Subject: Re: (klf) Re: klf-digest V2 #288 Date: 09 Feb 2000 14:23:12 +0800 Stephen Kennedy wrote: > > If you mean the Mad Professor Remix album (No Protection?), well, it never > did much for me that's for sure. fine dubbed out remixes to my ears - bass heavy and minimal - very good!! stephen ives digital DJ -- producer Digital Cutup Lounge Hong Kong Subscribe to the Digital DJ mailing list to keep up with the latest developments in mp3 DJing and live computer performance...new PC/Mac software, legal/copyright issues, tips on sound quality: http://www.ourfounder.com/digitalcutuplounge/ddjlist.htm Check these Web sites for Digital Cutup Lounge updates, streaming RealAudio DJ mixes, and free mp3 downloads of original drum'n'bass, techno, and ambient tracks: http://www.ourfounder.com/digitalcutuplounge http://www.mp3.com/digitalcutuplounge http://www.mp3.com/hoax23 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hellboy@ihug.co.nz Subject: (klf) help album and poo Date: 09 Feb 2000 21:01:00 +1300 If you mean the Mad Professor Remix album (No Protection?), well, it never did much for me that's for sure. But if you're referring to the Help compilation I wouldn't say that was "poo" at all, quite the opposite - even without a rare appearance by Bill & Jimmy it was IMHO one of the best compilations of recent years. Steve I was refering to the massive attack vs the mad professor album sorry, the help album is all good # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Kuta" Subject: (klf) Bill's 45 Date: 09 Feb 2000 10:20:23 GMT Hi! Are therer any dates given for Bill reading from his new book? I would love to see one of his readings, that's why I'm asking... DAN --- DJ Kuta /KLF Online (www.klf.de) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Walter T." Date: 09 Feb 2000 04:35:02 -0600 I remember Adam Hauner put 3AME out on the web to d/l...Adam, could you put the others out as well Thank You for 3AME...It brought back alot of memories Walter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) Re: your mail Date: 09 Feb 2000 12:32:25 +0100 (CET) On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Walter T. wrote: > I remember Adam Hauner put 3AME out on the web to d/l...Adam, could you put > the others out as well Well, I'll put A:WTIL on the web tomorrow or some next day. I'm still looking for LTTT video... Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lindgren" Subject: (klf) solid on voxtopp and trackslistan Date: 09 Feb 2000 06:47:05 PST Hello everybody, Solid Gold Chartbusters "I wanna 1-2-1 with you" was tested on the swedish tvshow Voxtopp. Only 3 out of 9 tracks would get to the next round and the wiewers could call in to decide what three should be in the next round. I called for 1-2-1 45 times but it didnīt make it to the next round.. Oasis, Blumchen and Tom Jones went on to the next round. But anyway the the video was shown for about 1 min and 10 secs. The song was also tested on the radionshow trackslistan. The whole song was played and the host said something about Jimmy and his earlier work in with the KLF. The host also said that the track was expected to be a big hit in the UK over the christmas but it failed. On this show the listeners can call or email in for their favourite song, but 1-2-1 didnīt make the top 20 ( the results for the songs that donīt make it to top 20 arenīt shown). The both things happened a couple of weeks ago. Anyway, has anyone heard the 1-2-1 on a dancefloor or seen the video on tv? Also, I got the cd with the video on last week so I have now seen the whole video. In NME it said that there should be a dummy of Tony Blair thrown from the London Bridge(?) video. The only person I saw being throw on the river was the person talking in the phone.. . David ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) 1-2-1 on vinyl? Date: 09 Feb 2000 12:47:52 -0500 (EST) Is 1-2-1 on vinyl? If so does anyone know where it can be found? Thanks for any help!! Doc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) 1-2-1 on vinyl? Date: 09 Feb 2000 10:08:29 PST Yeah I was wondering about that too. Is it on vinyl? Aside from promos that is? If so are thier remixes? I have the CD, but I thought everything in the UK was put on vinyl still. I live in the US, and the only US records on vinyl are crappy rap tunes, and R&B. There is a growing amount of domestic trance/techno whatever though. I just got a 180 gram 2x12" from Underworld (Jumbo, and King of Snake), that was on V2 records for $7 which I consider a pretty good deal. However the store I got it from also had the Star Wars Episode 1 soundtrack (UK version) on vinyl as well, and that is the kind of thing you will never see in the US. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson Subject: (klf) 1 2 1 Date: 09 Feb 2000 16:52:35 -0800 (PST) wow, thats kinda nice that that "1 2 1 w/u" song was KLF related. i remember reading about that in this Virgin Raft newsletter that i get for sum reason, like "wow who could this be? sounds interesting! and also annoying!" and well its Jimi isnt it? wow. heh, in the thing they also referred to mobile phones as "mobeys" so i had to forward it to the Moby list to show em that ;) i definitely agree with how mobile phones are stupid and their users are idiots, but honestly, i listened to the song on the Raft, and it was kinda sucky. hmmm. oh well. maybe it will become a hit SOMEWHERE... bye! "there's a yuppie on a cellular phone, i'm gonna puke if i hear anymore..." Weird Al Yankovic PHIZZO! ===== Even MTV BIGWIGS have heart attacks!!!!! SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com Hotel Detective PHIZZO JOBSON from The Ministry of 'Ousinje (aka >>>>>PAUL<<<<<) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Humphrey" Subject: (klf) Ooops! Date: 09 Feb 2000 21:51:25 -0000 It's very embarrassing, but I may have inadvertently sent out a couple of postings with an email virus. McAfee has only just picked it up. Its called Kak (seriously). It spreads itself by hacking Outlook Express and adds its own HTML signature to every message. It also places some code in the registry that runs another file which pops up a stupid message every 1st day of the month. It's not destructive, just annoying. Check for files in WINDOWS / WINDOWS/SYSTEM called KAK.HTA. If you use Outlook, check your signature settings. If infected, your signature file will be KAK.HTA. For more info go to http://vil.nai.com/vil/wsh10509.asp I'm trying to work out where it came from. Aaargh! Sorry people. Going to stick my head in the sand now.............. Mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephane MONTHIEU" Subject: Re: (klf) 1-2-1 on vinyl? Date: 10 Feb 2000 00:30:58 PST I know that there is a French distribution for the 1-2-1 vinyl, but I think that this is an international pressing made by Virgin Records. Cheers Stephane "Steve M.D." MONTHIEU "Ladies and gentlemen, The KLF has now left the building..." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) 1-2-1 on vinyl? Date: 10 Feb 2000 14:14:42 +0000 (GMT) > I have the CD, but I thought everything in the UK was put on vinyl still. Very little in the UK is released on vinyl. Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) 1-2-1 on vinyl? Date: 10 Feb 2000 15:55:33 +0000 (GMT) On Thu 10 Feb, Culf wrote: > > > I have the CD, but I thought everything in the UK was put on vinyl > > still. > > Very little in the UK is released on vinyl. Both of these are generalisations... . It's still pretty common for dance singles to have a 12" as one of their formats, and for a promo 12" (or multiple promo 12"s) to be produced. Many club albums are still released on 12" as well. Occasionally, sentimental non-dance artists put out vinyl formats just 'for the sake of it'- the new Oasis single, for example, has a 7" format (another format for the fans to buy). But more and more so, there are no vinyl releases for most tracks that aren't strictly club tracks. So I never saw a 12" for Solid Gold Chartbusters- possibly because the only viable track would have been the 'extended club mix' (which isn't all that clubby anyway) and they would have had to put something on the B-side. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/UtahSaints # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: (klf) Re: klf-digest V2 #289 Date: 11 Feb 2000 20:58:22 -0000 I'm sorry, I subscribe to the digest (and probably ought and probably will switch back to the standard format), so may as well do these followups in one go: > From: "Matt Anniss" > Subject: (klf) Bill's biography > > Hello, > > I spoke to someone from Little Brown publishers today, about Bill's > biography. They said it would now be coming out on March 3. This would > explain why you can't buy it in the shops! I also got confirmation that I've > got an interview with Bill, to talk about the book and KLF / Jams stuff (it > only took a month of pestering!). If any of you have questions you > desperately want asking, mail them to me and I'll try and squeeze 'em in. I > can't promise anything, but I'll give it a go! Yes, please ask him when he and Jimmy are going to stop arseing about with half baked projects and return with their full-bodied pop majesty to liven up a very formulaic pop scene! (or you could try the same line with a bit more tact ;-) > From: mhumph@tesco.net > Subject: RE: (klf) Bill drummond in the london metro > > - --- Original Message --- > Dan Abel Wrote on > Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:30:22 -0000 > ------------------ > > >Bill drummond gets a little feature today in the > >Merto paper in london (and elsewhere?) > > Yeah, and they screw up in the very first paragraph! > > "Who: Bill Drummond, entrepreneur, manager, pop star, director, > author and all-round candidate for the title of Greatest Living > Englishman" The Melody Maker said the very same thing several years ago, indeed I used to have it quoted on my web site. I always thought it was going some for a Scotsman to be greatest living Englishman, but with Bill Drummond it might just be... > From: stephen ives > Subject: Re: (klf) Re: klf-digest V2 #288 > > Stephen Kennedy wrote: > > > If you mean the Mad Professor Remix album (No Protection?), well, it never > > did much for me that's for sure. > > fine dubbed out remixes to my ears - bass heavy and minimal - very good!! Each to their own, it certainly wasn't apalling :-) Doesn't get played much here though, I guess I don't have much call for dubbed out minimalism. > stephen ives > digital DJ -- producer > Digital Cutup Lounge > Hong Kong How did you get that gig you lucky devil? :) > Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:14:42 +0000 (GMT) > From: Culf > Subject: Re: (klf) 1-2-1 on vinyl? > > > I have the CD, but I thought everything in the UK was put on vinyl still. > > Very little in the UK is released on vinyl. It depends on the type of recording really, doesn't it? Very little pop (a category we'd include 1-2-1 in) comes out in vinyl, probably zero actually, presumably because the target audience is teenagers and younger kids who wouldn't know what a vinyl record is. On the other hand, a lot of indie and dance records come out here *only* on vinyl, which is very annoying for those of us who don't have decks any more... Steve -- "The pool of tears beneath my feet flood every new born seed" Home Page: http://www.kalika.demon.co.uk/ Free Software & Shareware: http://www.sdk-software.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) 1-2-1 showed on VH1 Date: 12 Feb 2000 18:13:43 +0100 (CET) Hi, my brother saw "Solid Gold Chartbusters - I Wanna 1-2-1 With You" today on VH1 television... Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: (c)(P)ee Subject: (klf) FW: new in week 6 Date: 11 Feb 2000 17:28:13 "GMT" Anyone interested in The Manual in German? Staalplaat has it for 36 Dutch guilders. 9765 The KLF - Das Handbuch BOOK 36,00 Only in German... http://www.Staalplaat.com -- (c)(P)ee Be part of a unique on-line experience. Find out what your P-word is at http://www.emotionmixer.org/projects/washing-machine # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson Subject: Re: (klf) 1-2-1 showed on VH1 Date: 12 Feb 2000 13:18:53 -0800 (PST) > Hi, > > my brother saw "Solid Gold Chartbusters - I Wanna > 1-2-1 With You" today > on VH1 television... > Adam > Hauner > uh, that would be the Europe VH1ne right? i doubt the american VH1ne has ever shown anything KLF related.... except for possibly maybe a clip of J&A with Tammy Wynette when she died... i've seen/heard a few mainstream outlets mentioning/playing a bit of that when she died, it shows that at least SOMEBODY out there remembers the K ;) bye! "Professor, what's another word for pirate treasure?" PHIZZO ===== Even MTV BIGWIGS have heart attacks!!!!! SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com Hotel Detective PHIZZO JOBSON from The Ministry of 'Ousinje (aka >>>>>PAUL<<<<<) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremiah Rickert Subject: Re: (klf) 1-2-1 showed on VH1 Date: 12 Feb 2000 13:33:56 -0800 (PST) > i doubt the american VH1ne has ever shown anything KLF > related.... except for possibly maybe a clip of J&A > with Tammy Wynette when she died... i've seen/heard a I've seen Doctorin' The Tardis, 3am Eternal, What Time Is Love, and Justified and Ancient on American MTV, and I saw Justified and Ancient, the only time I saw the whole thing, on VH1 back when it was getting airplay. The reason I'm sure it was VH1 because at the time I didn't have MTV programmed into my TV, which I could only pick 13 channels on. VH1 is owned by MTV, you know. THere's lots of cross-pollination, especially compared to how VH1 was when it first aired. It was a lot different than MTV then, but now I've seen the same video playing at the same time on both channels. Isn't that wacky? I think J&A is probably the most popish of the White Room era songs, but it is the only KLF related thing I"ve seen on there. I always taped the atoZ weekends, hoping they'd show something, but I never did. anyway jr Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) The KLF - America WTIL (Euro Version) Date: 12 Feb 2000 22:54:14 +0100 (CET) Hi, I promised America: What Time Is Love? video on web; so you can download it on address for week: http://web.pinknet.cz/aha/klf-awil.zip 45,3 MB, zipped MPEG archive Adam Hauner P.S.: I'm still looking for LTTT video... -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) 1-2-1 showed on VH1 Date: 12 Feb 2000 21:07:27 PST but now I've seen the same video playing at the >same time on both channels. Isn't that wacky? You saw a video being played on MTV? When was this? Just kidding, I know they play videos...once in a while... These days I think VH1 pretty much kicks the crap out of MTV. Although M2 and Much Music are the only ones that are worth watching. MTV is just tons and tons of crap, actualy worse...crap MARATHONS. Do they ever show just one episode of something? It seems like they have to show you the whole season when ever they show something. Do bad they couldn't have a VIDEO marathon. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremiah Rickert Subject: Re: (klf) 1-2-1 showed on VH1 Date: 12 Feb 2000 22:41:47 -0800 (PST) > These days I think VH1 pretty much kicks the crap out of MTV. Although M2 > and Much Music are the only ones that are worth watching. MTV is just tons > and tons of crap, actualy worse...crap MARATHONS. Do they ever show just one > episode of something? It seems like they have to show you the whole season > when ever they show something. I don't even get M2. My VH1 splits the day with comedy central and both channels air the shows I want to see while the other is on. I wrote them a letter about their name Music Television, and they responded with something like "MTV has grown and evolved into an entertainment network, not a mere music network. I rewrote them and asked them to kindly change their name to "ETV," if that was truly the case. The only time they show more than two or three videos at a time is in the wee hours of the morning. MTV is the WWF of broadcasting. jr Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: RE: (klf) The KLF - America WTIL (Euro Version) Date: 13 Feb 2000 12:09:54 +0100 (CET) On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 Darius.Kubarth@Bertelsmann.de wrote: > Oh hell, > > where's this server speed from ? I had a download speed of 550 KB > per second (sitting on a 2GB/s backbone)! I wish some more servers > could be that fast. The whole download took one minute. Located on CESNET (Prague, Czech Rep.), connected 16Mbit to EBONE 2,5 Gbit backbone (Frankfurt, Germany). Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darius.Kubarth@Bertelsmann.de Subject: RE: (klf) The KLF - America WTIL (Euro Version) Date: 13 Feb 2000 12:20:05 +0100 >Located on CESNET (Prague, Czech Rep.), connected 16Mbit to EBONE >2,5 Gbit backbone (Frankfurt, Germany).=20 Not far away from our Backbone (G=FCtersloh, Germany). Darius # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson Subject: Re: (klf) 1-2-1 showed on VH1 Date: 13 Feb 2000 08:13:41 -0800 (PST) > These days I think VH1 pretty much kicks the crap > out of MTV. Although M2 > and Much Music are the only ones that are worth > watching. MTV is just tons > and tons of crap, actualy worse...crap MARATHONS. Do > they ever show just one > episode of something? It seems like they have to > show you the whole season > when ever they show something. > > Do bad they couldn't have a VIDEO marathon. > or a Sifl & Olly marathon. sorry, sorry, i just think that is the greatest non-Matt Groening-related show ever. the onlt thing worth getting MTV for (besides AMP).... and they havent showed S&O for about a year now!!! what the hell?!?!? and they only show AMP like once a month. its SUPPOSED to be a weekly show.... sorry yall. anyway, we should someday all get everyone to vote for "3 AM Eternal" on TRL one day. who knows maybe it might get on there!?!? yeah right. but after they put Moby out of rotation, right now we all have to vote for that ;) sorry again. i keep forgetting that not everyone thinks like me;) anyway i mentioned KLF on Sockheads (the sifl n olly fan list ;) and some girl is like "KLF RULE!!! OH MY GOD YOU ROCK MAN!!!" awesome. at least theres some cool people out there who remember KLF. great. anyway, i should go huh. ok bye! "MTV? I HATE THE FUCKIN MTV!! ITS GOT LIGHTS MUSIC BALD GUYS I HATE IT! My daughter, she loves the MTV I HATE THE MTV!!!" the mafia guy from S&O (even tho he disses Moby by saying that.. wait, nevermind that was before "Play" came out...) ===== Even MTV BIGWIGS have heart attacks!!!!! SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com Hotel Detective PHIZZO JOBSON from The Ministry of 'Ousinje (aka >>>>>PAUL<<<<<) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Sinclair Subject: Re: (klf) 1-2-1 showed on VH1 Date: 13 Feb 2000 10:57:18 -0800 (PST) the english VH1 showed Justified and Ancient in full as number 21 in the all-time country top 40 (!) last august, and this would have been shown on american VH1 aswell as part of the top 40 weekend as the show was all american produced. Mark > i doubt the american VH1ne has ever shown anything > KLF > related.... except for possibly maybe a clip of J&A > with Tammy Wynette when she died... ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darius.Kubarth@Bertelsmann.de Subject: RE: (klf) The KLF - America WTIL (Euro Version) Date: 13 Feb 2000 12:07:16 +0100 Oh hell, where's this server speed from ? I had a download speed of 550 KB per second (sitting on a 2GB/s backbone)! I wish some more servers could be that fast. The whole download took one minute. Darius -----Original Message----- Sent: 2/12/00 10:54 PM > Hi, > > I promised America: What Time Is Love? video on web; so you can > download > it on address for week: > > http://web.pinknet.cz/aha/klf-awil.zip > > 45,3 MB, zipped MPEG archive > > Adam Hauner # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xavier Ehret" Subject: RE: (klf) The KLF - America WTIL (Euro Version) Date: 13 Feb 2000 13:35:15 +0100 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-klf@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-klf@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of > Darius.Kubarth@Bertelsmann.de > Sent: dimanche 13 f=E9vrier 2000 12:20 > To: aha@pinknet.cz > Cc: klf@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: (klf) The KLF - America WTIL (Euro Version) > > > > >Located on CESNET (Prague, Czech Rep.), connected 16Mbit to EBONE > >2,5 Gbit backbone (Frankfurt, Germany). > Not far away from our Backbone (G=FCtersloh, Germany). Jeezus Christ, and i was happy with my new DSL connexion :) Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tomasz Nowak Subject: (klf) Stadium House Date: 13 Feb 2000 12:49:08 +0100 Ok everybody For all you mpeg-heads out there, I have encoded the whole "Stadium House" video into a nice mpeg-1 format, with a stereo 44khz sound. And guess what, it's not out of sync (hello Lars;). At the moment I can do a couple of free cdr copies for the interested parties. If more people want this, I suggest making cdr copies among yourselves. And if ANYBODY has the Dutton's 4hr video (hello Neil...) and also other stuff like Omnibus documentary, then PLEASE let me know. I can drop these into good quality mpegs and then share it with the rest of the world. Dj Dominion ps: the free cd also contains a parody of "Doctorin The Tardis" video. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Sinclair Subject: Re: (klf) Re: klf-digest V2 #289 Date: 13 Feb 2000 10:53:37 -0800 (PST) hi all, disagreeing with this-i know what vinyl is and i buy it, and i am 13 cheers fredsinclair@yahoo.com mark > > Very little in the UK is released on vinyl. > presumably because the target audience is teenagers > and younger kids who > wouldn't know what a vinyl record is. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) Re: klf-digest V2 #289 Date: 13 Feb 2000 20:17:32 +0000 (GMT) On Sun 13 Feb, Mark Sinclair wrote: > > hi all, disagreeing with this-i know what vinyl is and i buy it, and i > am 13 cheers fredsinclair@yahoo.com mark Doesn't actually contradict what was originally said, since you're a teenager, and it's younger kids that wouldn't know what a vinyl record is... And you have to admit that while there will be 12-year-olds-or-below who _know_ what a vinyl record is (thanks to their Mum and Dad probably...) there will be _few_ (not none) who actually buy them. For this reason tracks _targeted_ at that age range will most likely be on CDs, just as they used to be on cassette singles in the mid-80s to early-90s 'cos that's what most kids had player-wise. Sorry if this sounds patronising, Mark, but how many of your friends actually have vinyl record players? Stuart. > > > Very little in the UK is released on vinyl. > > > presumably because the target audience is teenagers and younger kids > > who wouldn't know what a vinyl record is. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/UtahSaints # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (klf) 1-2-1 showed on VH1 Date: 13 Feb 2000 14:05:13 -0700 On Sat, Feb 12, 2000 at 10:41:47PM -0800, Jeremiah Rickert wrote: > The only time they show more than two or three videos at a time is in the > wee hours of the morning. MTV is the WWF of broadcasting. I disagree. MTV hasn't started their own football league yet. -- Lazlo Nibble - lazlo@studio-nibble.com - http://www.studio-nibble.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Everybody's doing weblogs and I conform! http://www.studio-nibble.com/weblog -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (klf) phonebashing Date: 13 Feb 2000 14:09:07 -0700 On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 08:25:53AM +0100, Christian Bengtsson wrote: > Anyhone seen this? > http://www.phonebashing.com/ There's nothing lamer than a "fan site" that was actually put up by a record company... -- Lazlo Nibble - lazlo@studio-nibble.com - http://www.studio-nibble.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Everybody's doing weblogs and I conform! http://www.studio-nibble.com/weblog -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) Re: klf-digest V2 #289 Date: 13 Feb 2000 13:09:34 PST >Mark, but how many of your friends actually have >vinyl record players? > > Actually, and more to the point, how many of your friends like KLF? You were six (!) when they retired! Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brian j pardy Subject: Re: (klf) 1-2-1 showed on VH1 Date: 13 Feb 2000 16:24:45 -0500 On Prickle-Prickle, the 44th of Chaos, 3166, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > On Sat, Feb 12, 2000 at 10:41:47PM -0800, Jeremiah Rickert wrote: > > > The only time they show more than two or three videos at a time is in the > > wee hours of the morning. MTV is the WWF of broadcasting. > > I disagree. MTV hasn't started their own football league yet. What's Rock-n-Jock, then? -bri, glad he DOESN'T do vinyl else he'd spend WAY too much cash on KLF -- I've looked at the listing, and it's right! -- Joel Halpern. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephane MONTHIEU" Subject: (klf) Doctorin... Date: 14 Feb 2000 10:36:13 PST Hi all, in an old message, "david a" wrote that there is a belgian version of "doctorin the tardis" but the title was "doctorin the TRADES" is it a mistake or the real belgian title? Thanx Stephane "Steve M.D." MONTHIEU "Ladies and gentlemen, The KLF has now left the building..." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Sulston Subject: (klf) Interview with Bill Drummond. Observer 13/02/00 Date: 13 Feb 2000 16:37:53 +0000 There's an interview with Cap'n Bill in todays Observer, in the magazine supplement. He talks about the KLF, burning a million quid, and his book (obviously!) apparently this is the first interview for 6 years! 8-O Anyways, give me a day or two, and I'll OCR it and sling it down here.... -- Tom Sulston ICQ# 31612067 Mr_Tom on #agf - http://www.warwick.ac.uk/~bsumq - Not bitchy, just snobbish and intolerant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremiah Rickert Subject: (klf) 1-2-1 Date: 14 Feb 2000 14:29:23 -0800 (PST) Does anyone have a cover scan of the 1-2-1 single? If you do, could you either email it to me, or point out a URL? I'd reallllllly appreciate it. thanks jr Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David A" Subject: Re: (klf) Doctorin... Date: 15 Feb 2000 00:52:47 +0200 > > Hi all, > > in an old message, "david a" wrote that there is a belgian version of > "doctorin the tardis" but the title was "doctorin the TRADES" > > is it a mistake or the real belgian title? Hi, it was a mistake, I didn't wrote it I just copied it from cddb.com so blame somebody else! ;) Anyway, I have this item now and here's the correct info: The Timelords: Doctorin' The Tardis [23 May 1988] single CD5: 1988 BE (Indisc; KLF 093) 3:34 Doctorin' The Tardis (radio mix) 8:09 Doctorin' The Tardis (12" mix) ["mega mix"] 4:28 Doctorin' The Tardis (instrumental) 3:26 Gary In The Tardis (radio mix) 4:08 Gary In The Tardis (minimal mix) 6:20 Gary Joins The J.A.M.S. And yes, Lazlo have this info already, for a long-long time... *hint* Thank u. David A. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Flewin" Subject: (klf) mp3's on ftp 4 u Date: 14 Feb 2000 15:23:44 PST Hey all, For 1 week I am putting my archive iof stuff on my friends ftp for your enjoyment. Alot of dirs are kinda incomplete [waiting for the rites of mu] but most are filled. I have all the razormaid mixes as well :) Lots of rare goodies and an actual LIVE recording of acid brass interp of what time is live... [owns the cd version!] It is at bigfire.dhs.org ISDN/FTP Port 21 [all capitals for the L/P] manually change to the H:\ dir to axs the mp3's which are all VERY good quality, I assure you. If you have any vids or tracks I am missing, please upload them to the e:\ftp\incoming dir in folders for me and they will be added to the archive. I hope people ind stuff they need for their collections and stuff and people could kindly add to it. If this works out well... I'll keep it up longer :) Jusdt wanna share with you guys :) [Also any rare moby mixes would kick ass! I am starting to collect them, and any help would be nice.] Mr. Kelly Flewin Tknomncr@Hotmail.Com -I hope this will work and people will happily leech and share the wealth :) Reason #173 to fear technology... o o o o o o> o .|. \|. \|/ // X \ | <| <|> /\ >\ /< >\ /< >\ /< >\ /< Mr. Asciihead learns the Macarena. Reason #2000 to fear technology... [] (-------) | . . | Mr Asciihead wants to |-------| 0 1-2-1 With You :) | | // /===| 1 2 3 |// //===| 4 5 6 |/ 0 | 7 8 9 | | | (-------) || || || || 0/| |\0 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Struan Grant Subject: Re: (klf) Interview with Bill Drummond. Observer 13/02/00 Date: 15 Feb 2000 09:10:08 +0000 At 16:37 13.2.2000 +0000, Tom Sulston wrote: > >There's an interview with Cap'n Bill in todays Observer, in the magazine >supplement. He talks about the KLF, burning a million quid, and his book >(obviously!) apparently this is the first interview for 6 years! 8-O Here it is!: http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,3962686,00.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Interview with Bill Drummond. Observer 13/02/00 Date: 15 Feb 2000 06:06:17 EST > http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,3962686,00.html Good article, I thought. Nice summary of exploits K. I wonder what Pete thinks of the last paragraph... -paul Currently in rotation: McCartney - Live at the Cavern; Johnny Clegg - various # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) Space (available to d/l) Date: 16 Feb 2000 00:06:57 +0100 (CET) Hi, Brendan from Oz want Space album of me, so you can download it too on address: http://home.pinknet.cz/aha/klf-space.zip (36MB) -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremiah Rickert Date: 15 Feb 2000 18:24:29 -0800 (PST) Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremiah Rickert Subject: (klf) Bill's Guardian Article Date: 15 Feb 2000 19:12:00 -0800 (PST) At one point the author refers to a forgotten KLF track that was used as an anti-milosivic rallying song...which track is this? The most obvious is The Magnificent, but is it something else? jr Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (klf) Bill's Guardian Article Date: 15 Feb 2000 22:15:38 -0700 On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 07:12:00PM -0800, Jeremiah Rickert wrote: > At one point the author refers to a forgotten KLF track that was used as > an anti-milosivic rallying song...which track is this? As you suspect, it's The Magnificent. -- Lazlo Nibble - lazlo@studio-nibble.com - http://www.studio-nibble.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Everybody's doing weblogs and I conform! http://www.studio-nibble.com/weblog -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Duke-Williams Subject: (klf) Billspotting Date: 16 Feb 2000 14:35:05 +0000 Hi, Apologies if this has already been posted; I read the digest. There was an interview with Bill in Sunday's Observer. For a URL that might work, try: http://www.newsunlimited.co.uk/observer/life/story/0,3879,136114,00.html Also, for those keen to track his social calendar, Bill was at last night's readings by Ken Campbell, Nick Cave, Michael Moorcock, Iain Sinclair and Stewart Home at the Conway Hall in London (and Gimpo was manning the bar). Oliver -- Oliver Duke-Williams Tel 0113 233 3392 Centre for Computational Geography, University of Leeds, UK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt Anniss" Subject: (klf) Bill Drummond speaks... Date: 16 Feb 2000 22:22:18 +0000 Interviewed Bill this morning for Amazon.co.uk / Beatsandbreaks.co.uk (the article will be on both in a couple of weeks or less). I'd never spoken to him before and wasn't sure what he'd be like, and whether I'd be able to talk him in to saying what I wanted (typical journo!). It was an interesting chat, to say the least. We talked about the book (well worth reading, even if the KLF / JAMs content is minimal), K Foundation, KLf, JAMs etc. I have yet to listen back to the tape, but Bill said he couldn't see a time when he'd want to go into the studio again. The reason was given was that he was too old and, 'the best pop music is made by young people. People that make music when they're old just make fools of themselves.' I asked him about 1-2-1, and he said he couldn't understand why Jimi wanted to do it ("it sounded good when he talked about it, and maybe it should have been a bigger hit, but it wasn't.). Said when the KLF split they planned to release the Black Room (unfinished) and 'a proper KF album' as 'the white room was shit' (his words). He seemed to suggest that most things he's done (certainly music -wise) he didn't think before doing them, and that even the KLF splitting thing wasn't planned, they just did it. The same with the money burning and all the other crazy things they've done. I'll tell you when I've written it up - there's some interesting stuff in there. Matt Beats & Breaks. quality dance music online. www.beatsandbreaks.co.uk email: matt@beatsandbreaks.co.uk click for enlightenment. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremiah Rickert Subject: (klf) Acid Brass Date: 16 Feb 2000 19:33:31 -0800 (PST) I was listening to a hockey game on the radio, an away game for the Portland Winterhawks, and I heard the acid brass version of WTIL being played in the arena. It's the first KLF related tune I've heard since Doctorin' The TARDIS showed up for a time (though most arenas us the Gary Glitter version, since it doesn't have any words). anyway jr Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (klf) Re: klf-digest V2 #289 Date: 17 Feb 2000 12:00:03 -0000 Any thirteen year old who likes the KLF and who appreciates the appeal of vinyl deserves respect. Good on you Mark! >Mark, but how many of your friends actually have >vinyl record players? >Actually, and more to the point, how many of your friends like KLF? You were >six (!) when they retired! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson Subject: (klf) koolkid Date: 17 Feb 2000 13:40:46 -0800 (PST) --- "Howat, Simon" wrote: > > Any thirteen year old who likes the KLF and who > appreciates the appeal of > vinyl deserves respect. Good on you Mark! > > damn strait! its real funny, i mean i'm 16 now (i'm surprised i'm not the youngest here!) and i remember seeing 3 am and J&A on MTV when i was like 7even or so, and i wasnt even interested in muzik back then. when i did start getting into muzik, it was like "alternative" stuff, Nirvana REM Bush Pearl Jam STP etc. then i got into all this techno stuff eventually, and then i get into KLf and im like damn i remember this! wow! i dont know. thats jsut weird.... i was talking to my friend Sebastian about that too, he was like "yeah i remember that 3 am song from my youth!" hmm well i must go now bye! ===== Even MTV BIGWIGS have heart attacks!!!!! SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com Hotel Detective PHIZZO JOBSON from The Ministry of 'Ousinje (aka >>>>>PAUL<<<<<) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Heiko" Subject: Re: (klf) Re: klf-digest V2 #289 Date: 17 Feb 2000 19:50:20 -0000 > Any thirteen year old who likes the KLF and who appreciates the appeal of > vinyl deserves respect. Good on you Mark! Not only does vinyl have more appeal, it still beats digital playback in sound quality # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: (klf) 45 Date: 18 Feb 2000 15:58:50 +0000 Just got my copy of 45 (Books etc, Fleet Street, London). Bang goes my weekend..... Craig! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xavier Ehret" Subject: (klf) made @ 3am Coming off E Date: 18 Feb 2000 17:15:52 +0100 Hi, anyone got this CD recently ? Id like to know where the "Hey wait, ive got smthg for you...they told me to give it to you when i was done" sample comes from. Any ideas ? Cheers Xav PS : The whole thing is a mixed Chill Out / Space opus, of around 40mins. Very nice. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Hutchins Subject: (klf) Pure trance B-sides Date: 18 Feb 2000 22:13:38 -0500 Has anyone who owns the "This is What KLF is About I" box noticed that the "Pure Trance Originals" on the discs are actually the Pure Trance B-side mixes? In answer to Xavier's mail, I received my "Made at 3 AM..." CD today. very, very good. Goes from the whole Chill Out/Waiting thing at the beginning into something sorta new at the end. There's even a Chris Isaac sample in there. I wonder why Tim left the name "KLF" off the disc+case? -- Dan T. Hutchins Head of Adult Information Services & Micro-Systems Support Brandon Township Public Library 476 Mill Street P.O. Box 489 Ortonville, MI 48462 Phone: 248-627-6449 Fax: 248-627-9974 Web Address: http://tln.lib.mi.us/~brnd Dan's E-mail: danhutchins@core.com Dan's Cell Phone/Voice Mail: 248-225-2692 Dan's Web-Site: http://www.flash.net/~hutch668 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Pure trance B-sides Date: 19 Feb 2000 00:20:34 EST In a message dated 2/18/00 8:02:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, danhutchins@core.com writes: > Has anyone who owns the "This is What KLF is About I" box noticed that > the "Pure Trance Originals" on the discs are actually the Pure Trance > B-side mixes? Are they? I just picked this up not long ago but haven't played the cds yet (nothing new on there for me). I'll have to check these... > In answer to Xavier's mail, I received my "Made at 3 AM..." CD today. > very, very good. Goes from the whole Chill Out/Waiting thing at the > beginning into something sorta new at the end. There's even a Chris > Isaac sample in there. I wonder why Tim left the name "KLF" off the > disc+case? Got mine today. Just working my way through it... Man, EVERYTHING is tossed in there! I too noticed there is only a Thanks to JAMs... -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic maximus Subject: Re: (klf) Pure trance B-sides Date: 18 Feb 2000 23:38:50 -0600 where is everyone finding the box and what exactly is the made at 3 a.m. project? any details would be appreciated... cheers, lysergic >danhutchins@core.com writes: > >> Has anyone who owns the "This is What KLF is About I" box noticed that >> the "Pure Trance Originals" on the discs are actually the Pure Trance >> B-side mixes? >> In answer to Xavier's mail, I received my "Made at 3 AM..." CD today. >> very, very good. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Pure trance B-sides Date: 19 Feb 2000 01:14:35 EST > where is everyone finding the box and what exactly is the made at 3 a.m. > project? any details would be appreciated... I picked up a copy off eBay (excellent condition, complete with stickers!). made@3am is a limited edition (100 copies). Out of respect for the creator I plan on keeping silent on who it is. I'm sure mp3s will be available soon anyway... -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xavier Ehret" Subject: RE: (klf) Pure trance B-sides Date: 19 Feb 2000 12:51:17 +0100 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-klf@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-klf@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Dan Hutchins > Sent: samedi 19 f=E9vrier 2000 04:14 > To: klf@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (klf) Pure trance B-sides > > > > Has anyone who owns the "This is What KLF is About I" box noticed that > the "Pure Trance Originals" on the discs are actually the Pure Trance > B-side mixes? > > In answer to Xavier's mail, I received my "Made at 3 AM..." CD today. > very, very good. Goes from the whole Chill Out/Waiting thing at the > beginning into something sorta new at the end. There's even a Chris > Isaac sample in there. I wonder why Tim left the name "KLF" off the > disc+case? Wasnt this made for the M25 Spin ? Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark lewis" Subject: (klf) cd? Date: 19 Feb 2000 19:20:37 GMT i'm in the same boat as MR Lysergic, were/what is this cd some of you are comparing notes over? by what you say about the sample of the girl saying "hey they told me to give you this" and some others i know i've heard it, or at least some of it. on oaa a few weeks ago i downloaded a file labled "chill out megamix, very rare". it was on that but that is only 23 minutes long. where is everyone finding the box and what exactly is the made at 3 a.m. project? any details would be appreciated... cheers, lysergic ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark lewis" Subject: (klf) Re: (orb) quick question klf/orb related Date: 19 Feb 2000 21:02:37 GMT Mr Lysergic un-lucky mate, i've just checked and it was in the misc file but now is not. i downloaded it straight to MD if thats any use to you. an orb mix of "grim up north" shit hot idea, thats the first i've ever heard though. has anyone got "waiting"? >mark ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dusan Semen Subject: (klf) new member Date: 20 Feb 2000 01:33:24 +0100 Hi KLF fans! I'm Dusan Semen, 20 years old, a student, from Slovenia and I'm new to this list. I heard my first klf song about 10 years ago and since then I've been a big fan - it's my favorite group. I enjoy listening to any good music, but my favorite groups are klf, orb, future sound of london, depeche mode. From klf stuff, I have The White Room with J&A, Chill Out and Mancentral mp3s... In Slovenia there's a problem with getting non-mainstream cds - especially ambient stuff, not to mention singles (looks like there's no way that I'll be able to buy I Wanna 1-2-1 :(((( I downloaded the quicktime movie and I like it. Does anyone have a mp3 so I can listen to the whole single? Dusan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Attila Bujt=?ISO-8859-1?B?4Q==?=s" Subject: (klf) Ftp Date: 20 Feb 2000 01:50:35 +0100 Please somebody tell me addresses of the KLF ftp sites. I need to download some... Thanks Attila # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Sulston Subject: Re: (klf) cd? Date: 19 Feb 2000 23:24:26 +0000 mark lewis wrote: > "chill out megamix, very rare". it was on that but that is only 23 minutes > long. There /is/ something to it...... -- Tom Sulston ICQ# 31612067 Mr_Tom on #agf - http://www.warwick.ac.uk/~bsumq - Not bitchy, just snobbish and intolerant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Sulston Subject: Re: (klf) cd? Date: 19 Feb 2000 23:24:26 +0000 mark lewis wrote: > "chill out megamix, very rare". it was on that but that is only 23 minutes > long. There /is/ something to it...... -- Tom Sulston ICQ# 31612067 Mr_Tom on #agf - http://www.warwick.ac.uk/~bsumq - Not bitchy, just snobbish and intolerant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dusan Semen Subject: Re: (klf) new member Date: 20 Feb 2000 21:30:42 +0100 Hi! > Hi Susan, and Big Hello (big up!) to the KeepLoveFreeList. I'm not Susan - my name is Dusan (it's a male name!). I'll try to show you how it's pronounced: D - like d in 'do'. u - like oo in 'ooze' s - like s in 'sure' a - like u in 'cut' n - like n in 'not' The stress is on u. bye, Dusan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David A" Subject: Re: (klf) new member Date: 21 Feb 2000 00:08:38 +0200 > > Hi! > > > Hi Susan, and Big Hello (big up!) to the KeepLoveFreeList. > > I'm not Susan - my name is Dusan (it's a male name!). I'll > try to show you how it's pronounced: > > D - like d in 'do'. > u - like oo in 'ooze' > s - like s in 'sure' > a - like u in 'cut' > n - like n in 'not' > > The stress is on u. Ohhh... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christian Fieres Subject: (klf) Chris Isaak samples, was: Pure trance B-sides Date: 21 Feb 2000 07:01:07 +0100 > In answer to Xavier's mail, I received my "Made at 3 AM..." CD today. > very, very good. Goes from the whole Chill Out/Waiting thing at the > beginning into something sorta new at the end. There's even a Chris > Isaac sample in there. I wonder why Tim left the name "KLF" off the > disc+case? AFAIR, the Isaak sample (from "Wicked Game") could also be found in the Chill Out 2 or 3 sessions. Is there any chance to get the CD? MP3 or something? Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Sinclair Subject: (klf) Ultra Rare Trax Date: 21 Feb 2000 04:46:47 -0800 (PST) hi all, go to www.cdzone.co.uk and type in klf in the search box. then scroll down-ultra rare trax is the new addition priced at Ģ15.62. is this normal-i thought this cd was really hard to get and worth alot more! fredsinclair@yahoo.com Mark Sinclair ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) The White Room (film) Date: 21 Feb 2000 13:43:47 +0100 (CET) Hi, I got WR film (5 parts in MPEG), but the quality is _very poor_. Does exist any better version? -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) Ultra Rare Trax Date: 21 Feb 2000 10:42:26 PST >hi all, >go to www.cdzone.co.uk and type in klf in the search >box. then scroll down-ultra rare trax is the new >addition priced at Ģ15.62. is this normal-i thought >this cd was really hard to get and worth alot more! >fredsinclair@yahoo.com >Mark Sinclair > Well, first of all it's KLF we're talking about, not Fabrige eggs or something. Most people don't give a shit about them, or even remember who they are. Value is subjective. I'd pay big bucks for some KLF stuff, but others would much rather a have a used Spice Girls CD. Not to mention that Ultra Rare Traxx is bootleg (or am I wrong here?) and is therefore no more legit than a re-bootleg of itself. I'd pay just as much for a CDR of a bootleg as I would for the real thing....not a lot. For example: take a look at the people on this list that would tell you that the KLF Comunitactions version of ChillOut is worth three times what the Wax Trax version is. Why? Well, I think it's silly, but the real reason is that the KLF version is the first version, and came first. It was printed by (pretty much) the KLF themselves, whereas the WT version is just a liscened afterthought, and was re-printed many times (still is being preinted in fact). In short, anything, anywhere, is worth what people will pay for it, and Ģ15.62 seems a lot for a old bootleg of a band no one wants to here (except us!). If they charged more, it would take a while to sell, meaning that the price would be more than it's worth. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LiquidW@aol.com Subject: (klf) made @ 3am Coming off E does it exist? Date: 21 Feb 2000 14:49:51 EST i had thought this cd was cancelled or something of that nature. Is there anyone who can CD-R this for me? I have tons to offer in the way of ambiant and rare orb material Liquidw@aol.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Attila Bujt=?ISO-8859-1?B?4Q==?=s" Subject: (klf) Fnord Date: 21 Feb 2000 22:41:41 +0100 ...fnord is full. People can not upload their stuff, so I can not download them. Is there any another ftp site where I could download those tracks? What Time is Love - Original B-side Mix LUTT Studio Tape White Room Movie 3AM video America What Time is Love Video What Time is Love Video Justified and Ancient Video Attila # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) Fnord Date: 21 Feb 2000 22:47:31 +0100 (CET) On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Attila Bujt=E1s wrote: > America What Time is Love Video http://io.pinknet.cz/aha/klf-awtil.zip (but only http...) --=20 Adam Hauner -=3D[ AHA ]=3D[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=3D[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz = ]=3D- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) E-Train To Trancentral, 2987 Date: 21 Feb 2000 23:05:09 +0100 (CET) Hi, does exist any copy of E-Train To Trancentral? Second song to couple on this unreleased single, The Lover's Side is on several bootleg, but E-Train... And what about 2987 album? I found two songs on fnord, 3 A.M. Impure Trance and Viva Viagra! with text "From the forthcoming CD/MC 2987" etc. In credits are Jimmy & Bill etc., but I think, that thay are credited as authors of used song. Paul, do you know anything about it? Anyone else? -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) E-Train To Trancentral, 2987 Date: 21 Feb 2000 18:13:06 EST > does exist any copy of E-Train To Trancentral? Second song to couple on There was some discussion on the list about this a while back... memory fails me at the moment. But essentially no, never released, probably never recorded (then again we thought so recently about Love Trance). > And what about 2987 album? I found two songs on fnord, 3 A.M. Impure > Trance and Viva Viagra! with text "From the forthcoming CD/MC 2987" etc. > In credits are Jimmy & Bill etc., but I think, that thay are credited as > authors of used song. Man, one thing I really hate is this 2987 thing. Some guys record a crap track claiming to be Bill and Jim and a legend is born. Someone posted this to the list not long ago. Not sure how this person got it (unless they were the creator and were posting this to throw in the towel... I don't *think* this person has posted recently...)) but I was amused: Note: feedback is Cauty's managing company. ---Internet wrote: > > WITHOUT PREJUDICE > > I have just been made aware of your website. > > Please note that your activities are not concerned > with our artists. They have legal representatives > that handle such issues. You are clearly aware of > the fact that you are falsly representing yourself > as our artist(s) and as a result you are open to > legal action, both in criminal and common law. > > I should make you aware that we are duty bound to > inform Bill Drummond of your site. Legal representatives > of KLF Communications, and third parties (including > publishing and licensed record labels) may also > take necessary steps as a result of your > misrepresentation, and seek subsequent damages. > > No statements made by ourselves in any way endorse > or authorise your activities in falsly representing > yourselve as Mr Cauty or Mr Drummond, collectively > known as "THE JAMS" on this occasion, and we are in > no way authorised to do so. > > On a personal note, why don't you release material > using your own name, instead of somebody else? Your > deception is unfair to fans, and if you're truly > proud of your work (I haven't heard it) why wouldn't > you want personal credit? > > Sincerely, > Keir Jens-Smith > Director > FEEDBACK COMMUNICATIONS > _ _ _ _ > |_|_|_| \ feedback.com > |_|_ _ / PO Box 808, Hook, RG29 1UF, United Kingdom > |_|_|_| \ Telephone: +44 (0) 1256-862865 Facsimile: +44 (0) 1256-862182 > |_|_____/ internet@feedback.com URL: > http://www.feedback.com/ -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Ultra Rare Trax Date: 21 Feb 2000 18:15:10 EST > For example: take a look at the people on this list that would tell you=20 that=20 > the KLF Comunitactions version of ChillOut is worth three times what the=20 Wax=20 > Trax version is. Why? Well, I think it's silly, but the real reason is=20 that=20 > the KLF version is the first version, and came first. It was printed by=20 Actually, the Wax Trax version is slightly different, not just because it's=20 on a different label. Apart from being a single track there are a few=20 different sound effects sprinkled throughout. Not that you'd really notice=20 unless you had one version ingrained in your head then heard the other. =20 Also, the KLF was only available a short time making it rare, while the US=20 version continued in production for several more years. > In short, anything, anywhere, is worth what people will pay for it, and=20 > =A315.62 seems a lot for a old bootleg of a band no one wants to here=20 (except=20 > us!). If they charged more, it would take a while to sell, meaning that=20 the=20 > price would be more than it's worth. Certainly not! The KLF are still very much a collectable band and a browse=20 through past eBay sales will indicate that! Copies of URT are now selling=20 there for just over $60US. URT, while an "old bootleg" still contains some=20 very rare tracks. Where else can you get to hear AYNIL - white label=20 original, and IGUN - original grey promo? -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: illitrate Subject: Re: (klf) made @ 3am Coming off E does it exist? Date: 21 Feb 2000 23:13:03 +0000 - 21/2/00 - Deciphered incoming transmission from: LiquidW@aol.com > i had thought this cd was cancelled or something of that nature. oh it definately exists. i've seen it somewhere. but sorry, i can't cdr it for you -- --- "this machine will not comunicate these thoughts and the strain i am under... and fade out again" Jai Nelson jai@illitrate.cx illitrate Publicashions http://www.illitrate.cx 'Some day we're all gonna die, and then we'll see who's laughing' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: Re: (klf) Ultra Rare Trax Date: 21 Feb 2000 21:33:50 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 7:42 PM > Not to mention that Ultra Rare Traxx is bootleg (or am I wrong here?) Yes it is. > For example: take a look at the people on this list that would tell you that > the KLF Comunitactions version of ChillOut is worth three times what th= e Wax > Trax version is. Why? Well, I think it's silly, but the real reason is that > the KLF version is the first version, and came first. But don't forget that the original KLF Communications version differs fro= m theWaxTrax. > =A315.62 seems a lot for a old bootleg of a band no one wants to here (except > us!). If they charged more, it would take a while to sell, meaning that the > price would be more than it's worth. If I hadn't the cd I would buy it for that price! :) Torsten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic maximus Subject: (klf) fnord Date: 21 Feb 2000 19:34:58 -0600 could someone please post the address and login/password for the fnord site? i would appreciate it... lysergic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) Ultra Rare Trax Date: 21 Feb 2000 21:17:46 PST >Actually, the Wax Trax version is slightly different, not just because it's >on a different label. Apart from being a single track there are a few >different sound effects sprinkled throughout. Not that you'd really notice >unless you had one version ingrained in your head then heard the other. Do you mean the WT version has the extra sounds, and is one track, or is the KLF version one track with extra sounds? The reason I ask is because I have one of the newest pressings of a WT Chill Out, and it does indeed have chapter stops for each track. Maybe they reformated it recently or something. This this is still available from the WT webpage btw. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: Re: (klf) Ultra Rare Trax Date: 22 Feb 2000 07:40:37 +0100 At 00:15 2000-02-22 , paul wrote: >very rare tracks. Where else can you get to hear AYNIL - white label >original, and IGUN - original grey promo? On this "instore sampler" 12" I bouhgt... //Frid Mattias Frid "People say: 'Just read the Framtidsv. 4:313 facts!' Well, I've read them, S-35252 Vaxjo and you can have them back!" SWEDEN - Bill Drummond, "The Man" - http://www.student.vxu.se/home/mfrsv95/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Ultra Rare Trax Date: 22 Feb 2000 02:27:55 EST > >Actually, the Wax Trax version is slightly different, not just because it's > >on a different label. Apart from being a single track there are a few > >different sound effects sprinkled throughout. Not that you'd really notice > >unless you had one version ingrained in your head then heard the other. > > Do you mean the WT version has the extra sounds, and is one track, or is the > KLF version one track with extra sounds? Sorry, I didn't state that clearly. The original KLF edition is one track. The WT edition is broken down into individual tracks, is missing a couple sound effects, and is 30 seconds shorter. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuey & Michelle Subject: Re: (klf) Fnord Date: 22 Feb 2000 22:08:54 +1300 Attila Bujt=E1s wrote: > Is there any another ftp site where I could download those tracks? > LUTT Studio Tape call me out of touch, but what's this? -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Did you know Stuey is the webmaster of the NZ Green Party? http://www.greens.org.nz/ Stuey's groovy website is direly in need of updating: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: (klf) LTTT version Date: 22 Feb 2000 10:13:32 +0100 Does anybody know if the "Last Train To Trancentral" version which is used in "Waiting" (it is the Pure Trance Version with a sample of "Go To Sleep" I think) is available somewhere? (starts at 21'45") Or was it just made for this piece? -- Torsten Pattberg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) LTTT version Date: 22 Feb 2000 04:33:26 EST > Does anybody know if the "Last Train To Trancentral" version which is used > in "Waiting" (it is the Pure Trance Version with a sample of "Go To Sleep" I > think) is available somewhere? (starts at 21'45") Or was it just made for > this piece? LTTT remix 12" (008Y). I think it's in both the 808bass and 120 but can't be sure. -paul bobbies and boppy music # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremiah Rickert Subject: Re: (klf) LTTT version Date: 22 Feb 2000 02:15:51 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Torsten Pattberg wrote: > Does anybody know if the "Last Train To Trancentral" version which is used > in "Waiting" (it is the Pure Trance Version with a sample of "Go To Sleep" I > think) is available somewhere? (starts at 21'45") Or was it just made for > this piece? It's on the LTTT remix single, the one that has the 808 Bass remix and "Meets The Moody Boys Uptown" etc. jr Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Sinclair Subject: Re: (klf) Ultra Rare Trax Date: 22 Feb 2000 05:07:19 -0800 (PST) hi again, so on the ultra rare trax CD what is the tracklisting? does anyone know? email me if you do, fredsinclair@yahoo.com Mark Sinclair ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark lewis" Subject: (klf) lttt Date: 22 Feb 2000 18:44:39 GMT "LAST TRAIN" the original-(aka the lovers side-KLF008T was apparently never released but i have had reports that there are recordings of this around somewhere!! "GO TO SLEEP" was going to be KLF012 but never made it apparently. i have doubts about the fact that these recordings are "never to be found" but i can only hope. also there are other mixes of WTIL that have never been mentioned (to my knowledge) they are:- ('89 primal remix)/(techno slam)/(trance mix)-KLF004R and (monster attack remix)-klf004M.... the second one is doubtfull in the full sense of the word but can anyone help out on any of these. --mark ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) lttt Date: 22 Feb 2000 13:09:53 -0600 The White Room versions of "Lovers Side", and "Go to Sleep" were recorded for the White Room soundtrack. Bootleg copies of these are available. There is a version (possibly the only one) of the WTIL Monster Attack mix on the B-side of the unreleased "Love Trance" single. I know there is at least one person who owns this or can confirm it's existence. This is also on a bootleg CD of the White Room OST. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) Fnord Date: 22 Feb 2000 19:40:29 -0000 I've obviously missed something big-time too. Can anyone enlighten me, privately if need be, about fnord? Thanks, Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Attila Bujt=?ISO-8859-1?B?4Q==?=s" Subject: (klf) ftp Date: 22 Feb 2000 21:01:01 +0100 KLF ftp server: fnord.frontnet.org L: 2k P: ftm Does anybody know another one? Attila PS.: LUTT = Last U??? To Trancentral ...a copied tape track or something. It's on the fnord server... but that's not a finished upload. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Flewin" Subject: (klf) That cd everyone keeps talking of Date: 22 Feb 2000 16:07:06 PST This is driving me insane! I now MUST have the cd everyone's been talking about quietly and are sworn to secrecy of... well that and I am going nuts because I had a chance to score the 12" of the WTIL 1988 original trance mix and 3 other goodies and I was completely broke.. and just as I GET MONEY! The damned record shop sells them all off and a bunch of other nice KLF related goodies [And Moby stuff I wanted].... the only bloody record shop in the whole city... they'll never get them in again.. and to boot.. they close down in 2 weeks... If someone can help me aquire this new 3am cd I'd be "Eternal"ly greatful. I don't want another chance to slip thru the cracks again. BTW: Would the gent who mentioned about putting the stadium house vid on cdr please email me if that offer still is going to exist? Mr. Kelly Flewin Tknomncr@Hotmail.Com Reason #173 to fear technology... o o o o o o> o .|. \|. \|/ // X \ | <| <|> /\ >\ /< >\ /< >\ /< >\ /< Mr. Asciihead learns the Macarena. Reason #2000 to fear technology... [] (-------) | . . | Mr Asciihead wants to |-------| 0 1-2-1 With You :) | | // /===| 1 2 3 |// //===| 4 5 6 |/ 0 | 7 8 9 | | | (-------) || || || || 0/| |\0 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) lttt Date: 22 Feb 2000 19:38:24 EST > "LAST TRAIN" the original-(aka the lovers side-KLF008T was apparently never > released but i have had reports that there are recordings of this around > somewhere!! LTTT was originally Go To Sleep... > "GO TO SLEEP" was going to be KLF012 but never made it apparently. > i have doubts about the fact that these recordings are "never to be found" > but i can only hope. A recording of Go To Sleep appears on WR-Original Soundtrack, and a more complete mp3/tape is floating around out there. > also there are other mixes of WTIL that have never been mentioned (to my > knowledge) they are:- Are you saying that you don't believe that these exist...? > ('89 primal remix)/(techno slam)/(trance mix)-KLF004R and I definately have a copy of this... > (monster attack remix)-klf004M.... recording appears on both WR-OST and Arkive (not sure 1 or 2...) There seems to be a lot of new folks on the list.... is everyone aware of the discography? http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephen ives Subject: Re: (klf) lttt Date: 23 Feb 2000 09:54:54 +0800 mark lewis wrote: > also there are other mixes of WTIL that have never been mentioned (to my > knowledge) they are:- > > ('89 primal remix)/(techno slam)/(trance mix)-KLF004R and > (monster attack remix)-klf004M.... the second one is doubtfull in the full > sense of the word but can anyone help out on any of these. I have the first one KLF004R on 12" vinyl - picked it up in Brighton when the thing came out ... stephen Subscribe to the Digital DJ mailing list to keep up with the latest developments in mp3 DJing and live computer performance...new PC/Mac software, legal/copyright issues, tips on sound quality: http://www.ourfounder.com/digitalcutuplounge/ddjlist.htm Check these Web sites for Digital Cutup Lounge updates, streaming RealAudio DJ mixes, and free mp3 downloads of original drum'n'bass, techno, and ambient tracks: http://www.ourfounder.com/digitalcutuplounge http://www.mp3.com/digitalcutuplounge # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) ftp Date: 22 Feb 2000 19:29:48 EST > KLF ftp server: Note: this server should be kept quiet! The reason it's rarely mentioned is to prevent abuse. Also, do NOT add it to any internet search engines or it will be shut down permanently... I have nothing to do with the archive, just expressing the wishes of it's maintainer. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Caroline Brymora Subject: (klf) Stadium house? Date: 23 Feb 2000 13:04:14 +1000 >There seems to be a lot of new folks on the list.... is everyone aware of the >discography? http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf > >-paul > speaking of the discography, I have the OZ version of Stadium house video (PAL format) festival 81219. But it has the track listing like the UK version (with the extra "this is not what the KLF is about") - discog lists the OZ without this extra piece. I assume the discography is pretty accurate, but does anyone know? I hope I don't have a bootleg video or anything? I only bought a couple of months ago (new) from Sanity music store. it was really cool to watch because I hadn't seen the clips since they were on television when they had some popular chart interest here. memory lane, huh? thanks Caroline __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik Subject: Re: (klf) lttt Date: 22 Feb 2000 22:42:57 +0100 At 18:44 22.02.00 GMT, mark lewis wrote: > >"GO TO SLEEP" was going to be KLF012 but never made it apparently. [...] >(monster attack remix)-klf004M.... >the second one is doubtfull in the full sense of the word but can anyone >help out on any of these. The KLF: The White Room Original Motion Picture Soundtrack CD: 1997 US (??; ??) 4:01 Kylie Said To Jason (edit) 4:15 3 a.m. Eternal (original album version) ----> 3:37 Go To Sleep <---- 3:36 Make It Rain 3:51 Church Of The KLF 3:18 No More Tears 4:54 Build A Fire 4:17 Lovers' Side 4:25 The White Room 2:48 Born Free ----> 6:24 What Time Is Love? (monster attack mix) <---- 7:52 Madrugada Eterna (original version) 4:35 Primal Megamix 5:58 Kylie Said Trance 6:56 Kylie In A Trance (extended version) 0:29 Snub TV Interview (part 3) [unlisted hidden track] 1:58 Madrugada Eterna (white room trailer mix) [hidden] mail to for ordering information :) erik http://www.klf.cx erik.gander@stud.uni-hannover.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: demetrius@poppad.com Date: 22 Feb 2000 14:16:51 -0500 xdollarx has changed. Here's the text after the "Who the Fuck is Michael K?" trailer. Anyone know anything about "SMASH"? GLAM SCAM KLF/K Foundation plagiarists X$X have resurfaced to unveil a series of forthcoming releases on the underground multimedia label XACT. Persistently associated with the projects of Bill Drummond and Jimmy Cauty since their split as The KLF in 1991, the name X$X emerged in early 1992 with the release of"The Black Room" whose entire content consisted of the spoken message "Don't Buy The Black Room". "1997", a close relative of the Jams' "1987-What the Fu*k is Going On?" was attributed to both X$X and K Foundation in 1993 . Rumours of X$X/KLFassociations have persisted online for years and re-emerged recently when "THE BUILDING", an "online concept album" previewed on the Web in July while a CD-Rom of the same title has been mooted online for months.. This week the X$X plot thickened as promotional copies of a single,"SMASH" were circulated to London Radio stations with a warning that the track must not be played on air. A label-source quipped that the track is "too good to be played anywhere" A book of the same title is to be published shortly. Meanwhile, radio-plugger, the late Scott Piering,who had contact with X$X has described it as a complex scheme more about media manipulation than music". Any info on the fnord ftp would be appreciated. -D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: (klf) 45 Date: 23 Feb 2000 02:37:19 EST Has anyone read 45 yet? Someone recently reported picking it up, and my order from Amazon UK was shipped out today so... -paul Currenty in rotation: Too Much Joy - various # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stage medewerker Subject: (klf) sound of "made @3am coming off e" Date: 23 Feb 2000 10:02:44 +0100 I recently got in the made @3am cd and it struck me that the sound is different from what I am used to hear from Chill Out and Waiting. It is KLF musik but it's quit different from Chill Out and Waiting. I've been of the list for a while so I've missed some information about this cd. Can anyone give some information about the origin of the musik on the cd? Thankx PG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Hurwood" Subject: RE: (klf) Stadium house? Date: 23 Feb 2000 20:08:44 +1100 > speaking of the discography, I have the OZ version of Stadium house > video (PAL format) festival 81219. But it has the track listing like > the UK version (with the extra "this is not what the KLF is about") - > discog lists the OZ without this extra piece. I assume the > discography is pretty accurate, but does anyone know? I hope I don't > have a bootleg video or anything? I only bought a couple of months ago > (new) from Sanity music store. I've picked up three copies of the Australian version (Liberation Records) of Stadium House over the years, including a copy back when LTTT was in the charts, and all have the UK track listing, so I'm 99% sure you don't have a bootleg. It still pops ups in remainder item bins occasionally around Sydney. Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: a9457399@wlv.ac.uk Subject: (klf) Sash! Adelante Date: 23 Feb 2000 09:22:19 +0000 Has anyone noticed on Sash!'s new single,"Adelante" there's a really strong Scottish sounding voice that bares a startling resemblance to Bill Drummond's? Does anyone know whether it _is_ him? It's the one that shouts "Bigamy" or whatever the word really is ('cause it surely can't be that). Karl Macnaughton This mail sent through IMP: http://web.horde.org/imp/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: Re: (klf) 45 Date: 23 Feb 2000 11:05:37 +0000 (GMT) TheMgnt@aol.com wrote: > Has anyone read 45 yet? Someone recently reported > picking it up, and my order from Amazon UK was > shipped out today so... i picked it up on friday, but haven't got around to reading it yet. just finishing a julian cope book (in which mr d is often mentioned)... i had a flick through '45', and it's a bunch of essays/rants - some of which we've seen before ('from the shores of lake placid', the story from 'disco 2000'). looks pretty interesting though. l8r. ===== Smiley New spares list: http://come.to/SmileyWeb ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Allan" Subject: (klf) RE: sash/adelante Date: 23 Feb 2000 12:22:45 +0000 T I totally agree. The first time I heard it I thought "bloody hell that's Bill Drummond." Then Simon Mayo goes "and that's the new single from sash." Mmmmmmm total confusion filled my postie van! I would love to know if it is Bill or not? Steve -- The JAMs Are Gonna Tattoo Ya # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M-A-D" Subject: (klf) Who's the Gimp? Date: 23 Feb 2000 12:51:25 -0000 8:00pm 1st March, 2000 The New Foundry Ltd., Great Eastern Street. London. Nearest Tube : Old Street http://www.t2k.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) Sash! Adelante Date: 23 Feb 2000 09:49:06 +0000 (GMT) On Wed 23 Feb, a9457399@wlv.ac.uk wrote: > > Has anyone noticed on Sash!'s new single,"Adelante" there's a > really strong Scottish sounding voice that bares a startling > resemblance to Bill Drummond's? Does anyone know whether it > _is_ him? It's the one that shouts "Bigamy" or whatever the word > really is ('cause it surely can't be that). It's really, really, very much not him. On the full-length version there's a conversation between the two people (might be a sample from a film, but it's not credited in the inlay) and that other character (the one who shouts not-quite-"bigamy!") has more to say- in fluent Spanish. And it's definitely not him. I look forward to the day when Bill Drummond does appear on a Sash! record. I'm beginning to think you only posted this for a laugh. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/UtahSaints # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M-A-D" Subject: (klf) Who's the Gimp? Date: 23 Feb 2000 09:58:54 -0000 8:00pm 1st March, 2000 The New Foundry Ltd., Great Eastern Street. London. Nearest Tube : Old Street http://www.t2k.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Wandering=20Nomad?= Subject: (klf) fnord... Date: 23 Feb 2000 05:40:36 -0800 (PST) I know I've been lurking for some time now, and believe me I'm suitably ashamed, but I too seem to be unable to access Fnord nowadays. If someone could fling the L/P my way I'd appreciate it... Cheers, KJ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Fox Subject: Re: (klf) 45 Date: 23 Feb 2000 14:16:30 +0000 Yeah, I'm kind of half way through, and it is excellent. Some very funny bits, some sad disillusioned bits, some interesting ideas, you know... Nice 'object' as well, it's square and looks like it has been printed on handmade paper, and the title has been stencilled on. I got it last Friday at Waterstones, Oxford St, London. > Has anyone read 45 yet? Someone recently reported picking it up, and my > order from Amazon UK was shipped out today so... > > -paul > > Currenty in rotation: Too Much Joy - various # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Attila Bujt=?ISO-8859-1?B?4Q==?=s" Subject: (klf) LUTT Date: 23 Feb 2000 18:32:07 +0100 Who made the LUTT? Is it one of those trials in the studio (10-12 tracks by Thorpe or Cauty ...maybe Cressida) what was made for inhouse use not for the public? The stolen ones? Or is it just a legend? Who knows something about it or about the studio staff? What is the truth? Attila # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) Ultra Rare Trax Date: 23 Feb 2000 19:19:53 -0000 > Sorry, I didn't state that clearly. The original KLF edition is one track. > The WT edition is broken down into individual tracks, is missing a couple > sound effects, and is 30 seconds shorter. As I understand it, and from what I've been able to hear, these are the differences between the UK and US Chill Out CDs: On the UK issue, the train noise near the start of "Pulling Out Of Ricardo..." seems to be slightly longer. May be my imagination. On the UK issue, there is another noise, like the sound of a truck or train starting, at the beginning of "3am Somewhere Out Of Beaumont" which is missing completely from the US version. This sequence, including a short pause before it takes up nearly 17 seconds. On the UK issue, there is a short gap of silence of at least a second, perhaps two before the start of "Trancentral Lost In My Mind" - this is cut back to less than half a second on the US issue. There is also an extra second or so of silence at the end of the UK CD. I also think the UK CD generally runs slightly faster than the US one, if that's possible. Even on sections where there's no obvious difference at all, the UK one seems to run a second or so longer. What there isn't, is an extra 30 seconds to "Alone Again With The Dawn Coming Up". Apart from the trailing silence, the two seem to match exactly from the start of "Trancentral Lost In My Mind" onwards. Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: (klf) Bill D. on R4 Date: 23 Feb 2000 19:23:25 -0000 Probably too late for most of you, but Bill Drummond will be talking on the BBC Radio 4 programme "Front Row" in the next half-an-hour or so. International readers of this message may be able to hear the broadcast via the following link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/realplayer/index_fm.html Cheers, Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Vangus" Subject: (klf) The new manual? Date: 23 Feb 2000 22:01:06 +0100 Hi all! Today was the starting day of the big book sale here in Sweden. I went down to the biggest store in Stockholm, and I must say I was very surprised when I spotted a copy of The Manual, in pocket format! (The copy I've got is in full A4 size).=20 Now I wonder ... Is this the re-press version that's been mentioned on the list recently? If it is, how is the availability of this edition? Does it differ in any other way, besides the format? Thanks / Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) Bill D. on R4 Date: 23 Feb 2000 23:25:52 -0000 > Probably too late for most of you, but Bill Drummond will be talking on the BBC Radio 4 programme "Front Row" in the next > half-an-hour or so. > > International readers of this message may be able to hear the broadcast via the following link: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/realplayer/index_fm.html Not especially illuminating, though Bill seemed in a jocular mood. I have taped it and will try to MP3 it at some point, although if anyone managed to record it directly on their PC perhaps they could do the honours - it will involve me in disentangling the tape deck from the rest of the stereo. Annoyingly, the link about carried part of the show, but not all of it. Cheers, Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Henro2k Subject: Re: (klf) The new manual? Date: 24 Feb 2000 05:59:15 +0100 From the fingers of Robert Vangus: >Is this the re-press version that's been mentioned on the list recently? >If it is, how is the availability of this edition? >Does it differ in any other way, besides the format? The new edition has a preface by John Savage that was not included in the first edition, plus a new afterword section written by Bill Drummond. And considering that you can get them from amazon.com I'd say that they are pretty available. /Henrik -><- No, Keep Running! It's Going To Be Big! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: victor alexander Subject: (klf) Just a test Date: 24 Feb 2000 01:35:11 -0800 (PST) Sorry! Just a test. ===== Victor Alexander "Life is too harsh, my coffee shouldn't be" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Frank den Bieman" Subject: (klf) fnord again Date: 24 Feb 2000 12:33:58 +0100 i thought i got the pw of fnord right...but i haven't. or has it been = changed? can anyone tell / write / mail me the new one? Frank # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: (klf) Kylie said MU Date: 24 Feb 2000 11:07:37 EST So, I'm going through and sorting my KLF stuff as I want to digitize and organize it. I find I have an mp3 of a track called Kylie Said MU. It appears to be an early mix of one of the Kylie in a Trance remixes. Does anyone know where this came from? I try to keep track of the boots out there and this has yet to surface on one... Could it be from the CDR that surfaced last year with Love Trance? (and, btw, if anyone has a copy of that please contact me, I'd like to trade cdrs) -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Muldowney" Subject: Re: (klf) fnord... Date: 24 Feb 2000 11:08:57 -0000 Great! I see fnord is no longer accepting the user and password Well done to those who cant reply with private emails... :( If the "sysop" could mail be privately i would be happy to supply a new hard drive so we can continue uploading. TIA Mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marek Mierzejewski Subject: (klf) Stadium House and other things Date: 24 Feb 2000 16:56:26 +0100 For everybody curious enough what "Doctorin The Tardis" video parody looks like, go to http://rezist.com/djd The preview for this and other KLF clips should be there tonight DJD # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lindgren" Subject: (klf) klftshirt Date: 24 Feb 2000 08:51:47 PST Hello everybody, Thought Iīd mention that I wore my one of my klf tshirt at a thing called DISCO TV where they broadcasted from a club in my town in hope that my KLFtshirt would be shown on national tv, but no I came there to late. . Thereīs a picture of me on the web that was taken by the clubowner that night if someone would be interested in seeing it. The tshirt was made in Sweden and I bought it back in ī91. Iīve only sen mine and one more. Its black with big KLF in white on front and big why sheep ( Bill and Jimmy holding sheeps ( a sheep?) taken from the white room booklet in white on the back. Iīll send the webadress to the list if someone wants to have a look. .. I really like the idea to wear old KLF/JAmms & Utah saints tshirts at really trendy and hot clubs, as I usually wear trendy clothes its nice to just wear an old cool tshirt sometimes. . . BTW Has anyone being accused of having nazi thoughts for wearing the black its grim up north tshirt? DAvid ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (klf) t shirts Date: 24 Feb 2000 16:55:59 -0000 I used to have a white Jamms t-shirt with 'Shag shag shag' written on it. Although it was an 'official' t-shirt, the quality of it was very poor and now it is nothing but a fond memory and an oily rag. The most enduring t-shirt I bought during that era was a MARRS 'Pump up.....' shirt which was excellent quality and still looks good today. I also got some MARRS boxer shorts which didn't last much longer than a week but I'm not sure what that says. Thinking about it, having the words 'Pump up the volume' emblazoned on your underpants is a little strange. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christian Villum Subject: SV: (klf) Ultra Rare Trax Date: 24 Feb 2000 18:42:36 +0100 First thought: "This guy has too much spare time..." Second thought: "Respect..." ;-) / christian -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: Simon Coward [SMTP:simon.coward@invisible-technology.com] Sendt: 23. februar 2000 20:20 Til: KLF Mailing List Emne: RE: (klf) Ultra Rare Trax > Sorry, I didn't state that clearly. The original KLF edition is one track. > The WT edition is broken down into individual tracks, is missing a couple > sound effects, and is 30 seconds shorter. As I understand it, and from what I've been able to hear, these are the differences between the UK and US Chill Out CDs: On the UK issue, the train noise near the start of "Pulling Out Of Ricardo..." seems to be slightly longer. May be my imagination. On the UK issue, there is another noise, like the sound of a truck or train starting, at the beginning of "3am Somewhere Out Of Beaumont" which is missing completely from the US version. This sequence, including a short pause before it takes up nearly 17 seconds. On the UK issue, there is a short gap of silence of at least a second, perhaps two before the start of "Trancentral Lost In My Mind" - this is cut back to less than half a second on the US issue. There is also an extra second or so of silence at the end of the UK CD. I also think the UK CD generally runs slightly faster than the US one, if that's possible. Even on sections where there's no obvious difference at all, the UK one seems to run a second or so longer. What there isn't, is an extra 30 seconds to "Alone Again With The Dawn Coming Up". Apart from the trailing silence, the two seem to match exactly from the start of "Trancentral Lost In My Mind" onwards. Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: Re: (klf) LTTT version Date: 24 Feb 2000 21:02:36 +0100 > > Does anybody know if the "Last Train To Trancentral" version which is used > > in "Waiting" (it is the Pure Trance Version with a sample of "Go To Sleep" I > > think) is available somewhere? (starts at 21'45") Or was it just made for > > this piece? > > It's on the LTTT remix single, the one that has the 808 Bass remix and > "Meets The Moody Boys Uptown" etc. No it isn't. I am not talking about this remix which uses the whole "Go To Sleep" sample. It is (as I write above) the Pure Trance Version with a short sample (I am not sure if it is "Go To Sleep", it's too short to recognize) as in "Waiting". Torsten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Vangus" Subject: VB: (klf) t shirts Date: 24 Feb 2000 22:56:55 +0100 -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr=E5n: Robert Vangus Till: Howat, Simon Datum: den 24 februari 2000 22:46 =C4mne: SV: (klf) t shirts -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr=E5n: Howat, Simon Till: Klf (E-mail) Datum: den 24 februari 2000 17:58 =C4mne: (klf) t shirts >I used to have a white Jamms t-shirt with 'Shag shag shag' written on = it. >Although it was an 'official' t-shirt, the quality of it was very poor = and >now it is nothing but a fond memory and an oily rag. The most enduring >t-shirt I bought during that era was a MARRS 'Pump up.....' shirt which = was >excellent quality and still looks good today. I also got some MARRS = boxer >shorts which didn't last much longer than a week but I'm not sure what = that >says. Thinking about it, having the words 'Pump up the volume' = emblazoned >on your underpants is a little strange. Yeah, I agree. Wouldn't it be more suitable with a Technotronic print = instead ;) / Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: victor alexander Date: 24 Feb 2000 14:43:54 -0800 (PST) Is there a new password for fnord? Is there anybody who could tell me that L/P? I dont wanna be the last one who get it, like always. :-/ ===== Victor Alexander "Life is too harsh, my coffee shouldn't be" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: (klf) Re: Date: 24 Feb 2000 22:05:03 PST OK everyone, shut up about fnord. It is not a companion to this mailing list. If you don't have the log-in, and IP and stuff it's because the owner of the list doesn't want you to. I *had* that info, but do to some git posting it on the mailing list it's been changed, and now I have to ask for a new one, hoping I'll get it. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) Re: Date: 24 Feb 2000 22:14:20 PST > >OK everyone, shut up about fnord. It is not a companion to this mailing >list. If you don't have the log-in, and IP and stuff it's because the owner >of the list doesn't want you to. > Sorry, I meant "owner of fnord doesn't want you to". Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Frank den Bieman" Subject: (klf) Church of the KLF Date: 25 Feb 2000 10:31:13 +0100 Mornin' via Napster, i found a "Church of the Klf 98 Remix", a (i think homemade) kind of techno mix of the Church. I'm just curious: anybody knows who did this little trick with the Church? [One of you guys/girls?] It's definitely not original Klf. Frank # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark lewis" Subject: (klf) mp3's Date: 25 Feb 2000 13:07:19 -0000 i has become apparent to me that some people are, in my veiw abusing the mp3 download idea by making available blatently trucated files. i have just downloaded 'igun' and a mix of 'teardrop' by 'massive attack' and they are worthless, the only person who is made up about them is my telephone company. this is not the first time it has happened and previously after spending 1 hr downloading an entire album only to find that whoever mp3'd it failed to notice his cd was skipping like a 7 year old on the beach. it's a waste of time and quit frustrating when you think you've found something cool. sorry to wigh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) mp3's Date: 25 Feb 2000 15:26:18 +0100 (CET) On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, mark lewis wrote: > i has become apparent to me that some people are, in my veiw abusing the mp3 > download idea by making available blatently trucated files. i have just > downloaded 'igun' and a mix of 'teardrop' by 'massive attack' and they are > worthless, the only person who is made up about them is my telephone > company. this is not the first time it has happened and previously after > spending 1 hr downloading an entire album only to find that whoever mp3'd it > failed to notice his cd was skipping like a 7 year old on the beach. it's a > waste of time and quit frustrating when you think you've found something > cool. The problem could be this: some webservers sends MP3 with MIME type text/plain (ASCII transfer, but binary transfer is right!). You can try MP3rest utility to clean sound of songs: http://web.pinknet.cz/aha/mp3rest.zip (24kB, DOS & Win32 aplication) BTW mp3 of 'The Church Of The KLF (Remix 98)' annonced by Frank den Bieman is available to download on: http://web.pinknet.cz/aha/klf-church98.zip (6MB, packed MP3) -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: victor alexander Date: 25 Feb 2000 06:58:16 -0800 (PST) http://www.members.tripod.com/heavy_cargo/03_UfoToTrancentral Is this the one that some mention as LUTT? ===== Victor Alexander "Life is too harsh, my coffee shouldn't be" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: victor alexander Date: 25 Feb 2000 08:05:50 -0800 (PST) http://www.members.tripod.com/heavy_cargo/03_UfoToTrancentral.mp3 The first address has no ".mp3" at the end. Use this. Sorry! ===== Victor Alexander "Life is too harsh, my coffee shouldn't be" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David A" Subject: Re: (klf) fnord... Date: 25 Feb 2000 10:33:10 +0200 Hey KLF'ers, Thanks to "Attila" I've lost my very long time access to Fnord too! :-( Please let me know the new details... Thanks. Cheers. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Attila Bujt=?ISO-8859-1?B?4Q==?=s" Subject: (klf) Thanx David! Date: 25 Feb 2000 18:59:43 +0100 >From: "David A" >To: "Trancentral" >Subject: Re: (klf) fnord... >Date: Fri, Feb 25, 2000, 9:33 am > > > Hey KLF'ers, > > Thanks to "Attila" I've lost my very long time access to Fnord too! :-( > Please let me know the new details... Thanks. > > Cheers. Poor boy... many of the list members have never had that. Before anybody would say a F*** Y*** to me, here is the last email from me to the fnord sysop to let you know whats happened. I tried to be helpful because of the list members who asked that. Thats why I did send the L/P to the list. I thought this server for ANYBODY who loves the KLF, and together we could build up a complete KLF collection to share with anybody. The mail: --------- > I closed down the site yesterday since we can't handle the traffic. It was the same before I did it. It was hard to connect and download or upload. But, sorry I did not know that, it is not for anybody who loves the KLF. Let me ask you: How can you judge it who deserve the password? I thoght music is free, especially the KLF. You are smiling when you receive an uploaded new track, and you are angry if people like to download or what. Sorry I did not know that this site only for only few people who wants to keep the treasure to ourselves and anybody else can go to hell. The people has bad feelings on the list, because they are excluded... But OK. Change the password and keep your stuff so that the KLF list members wont download. You have the right for it, its your decision, it your server. You just forgot one thing: IT WAS FOR THE KLF LIST MEMBERS not for the public. Nobody advertise it for the public. NOBODY. And your trafic was too high before I did it. Why dont you regulate the numbers of the connections before you stop the server. You better think of it, not because of me but the KLF list members. ...or is it better to act the martyr. Sorry for my style and for my english. Attila Why dont you make a Hotline server... much much easier to control the trafic, the protection and everything. --------- So David, I have to say sorry, coz I usually do not count on ENVY! ...AND I LOST MY PASSWORD TOO! Another thing: Thanx Victor for the LUTT. It was a very fast download (16k) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: (klf) Fnord....? Date: 25 Feb 2000 18:31:32 +0000 I've been reading the group for some time now, and I must admit that I've often wondered what fnord _actually_ is. Can anyone help me out? Thanks Craig! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (klf) Thanx David! Date: 25 Feb 2000 12:40:12 -0600 It's not about being some sort of KLF elitist. There is a more practical reason behind this. Much of this stuff used to be on Mancentral and all on the list had access. It was meant for the list only, but people on the list told outsiders about it and eventually it had to be shut down. It would be nice to let everyone in on it, but eventually the wrong people will find out and the owner gets busted with copyrighted material on his site. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) Fnord....? Date: 25 Feb 2000 20:01:04 +0100 (CET) On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Craig Earnshaw wrote: > I've been reading the group for some time now, and I must admit that > I've often wondered what fnord _actually_ is. > Can anyone help me out? Fnord was private ftp server in Sweden with many songs of The KLF and related. Server has been closed... -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Positive Void Subject: (klf) 47 coming soon Date: 25 Feb 2000 17:06:35 -0500 29/04/00 will be a site for sore eyes # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) Thanx David! Date: 25 Feb 2000 23:23:32 +0000 (GMT) On Fri 25 Feb, Don Gagen wrote: > It's not about being some sort of KLF elitist. There is a more > practical reason behind this. Much of this stuff used to be on > Mancentral and all on the list had access. It was meant for the list > only, but people on the list told outsiders about it and eventually it > had to be shut down. It would be nice to let everyone in on it, but > eventually the wrong people will find out and the owner gets busted > with copyrighted material on his site. From what little I understand of the situation, I thought it was an entirely 'internal' matter. For ages, "fnord" was talked about in relatively hushed tones, and the details were passed on by private e-mail, not via the list- therefore (presumably) the traffic was occasional and reasonable, therefore manageable. Then somebody posted the details to the list, and quite predictably, the amount of traffic increases greatly. This causes problems, therefore the server has to close. Anyone whose name begins with "Att" who slams into the sysop of such a server because of this deserves removing from this list. It stinks of complete ingratitude. Nobody on this list is compelled to help anybody else out. And yet there's a good sharing attitude on this list (unlike other lists I could name where rare items are treated with a "ha ha, I've got it and you haven't"). Personally I'd just like to thank the people responsible for enabling this distribution of stuff, as and when it was possible. And I don't even _want_ a password- I've been doing damn well collecting KLF material the old-fashioned way, thank you very much. :-) I'm tried and I'll probably regret this rant in the morning. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/UtahSaints # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shilo & Michele Maggi Subject: (klf) Fnord, Mp3s and Hotline Date: 25 Feb 2000 16:03:48 -0800 somebody on the list had mentioned (suggested?) putting the fnord archives on Hotline for all to abuse... I may actually be willing to do this, once i figure out a way to swing a larger Hard Drive (my cuirrent one is only 4 gigs). Wehile i dont have ALL of the materials that the fnord server did, i DO have probably 1/2 to 2/3rds... at least one full cds worth, and im sure that some list members would help out as well... Any input? -s- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shilo & Michele Maggi Subject: Re: (klf) Fnord, Mp3s and Hotline Date: 25 Feb 2000 17:20:34 -0800 X- Thanks kindly. Its going to take me a week or two to get everything sorted and work on scraping $ together for a new hard drive, etc. In the meantime, any suggestions from list members are greatly appreciated! Those who do contribute in any significant form will be given admin accounts on the server. Cheers all! -s- > i can help you. I have quite a big KLF collection, and would be > willing to make mp3 copies of anything. > > Let me know > > Cheers > Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Attila Bujt=?ISO-8859-1?B?4Q==?=s" Subject: Re: (klf) Thanx David! Date: 26 Feb 2000 02:38:30 +0100 > On Fri 25 Feb, Don Gagen wrote: >> It's not about being some sort of KLF elitist. There is a more >> practical reason behind this. Much of this stuff used to be on >> Mancentral and all on the list had access. It was meant for the list >> only, but people on the list told outsiders about it and eventually it >> had to be shut down. It would be nice to let everyone in on it, but >> eventually the wrong people will find out and the owner gets busted >> with copyrighted material on his site. When I got this mail I felt ashamed of myself, coz it was very clear. (If this story would have been told before...) But "Somebody whose name begins with "Stu" gives the story no peace. > From: Stuart Bruce > Subject: Re: (klf) Thanx David! > To: KLF mailing list > Anyone whose name begins with "Att" who slams into the sysop of such a > server because of this deserves removing from this list. It stinks of > complete ingratitude. Excuse me, I'm not ingrate. It was NOT TOLD that the fnord is not for the list members. Everybody talk about fnord as an official server of the list. IT MAKES MISUNDERSTANDINGS! How do I and the people know that this is just a private site? The server was slow before. The server has not free space. The incoming folder was not cleaned, organized. There was too much connection yet. These are the reasons why it is slow. I've been there. > For ages, "fnord" was talked about in > relatively hushed tones Relatively hushed???? How could it be relatively hushed???? Every 5th mail is about something on or from fnord. > and the details were passed on by private > e-mail, not via the list In this case, the list members had the L/P via private mailing except few members. Mine came via the same way. So in this case how could the amount of traffic increase greatly. C'mon man. I think this was just a good reason to change the password, and decrease the number of the people seasonably. Another thing: I remember the KLF/KLF L/P. Do you remember? Guess how did I know. VIA THE LIST. In the last year. > because of this deserves removing from this list. "Somebody whose name begins with "Stu" who can judge anybody before ask one question: "Did you know that this is a private server". I tell you this information lost between two passwords. Read this line again if you can not read it because of "the stink of" subjectiveness. Finally, let me introduce the "name begins with "Att". It's Attila. Ancient hungarian name, means Sword of God. The name of the greatest commander of the Huns. Not a nickname but my real first name. > I'm tried and I'll probably regret this rant in the morning. Try much much harder, coz I do regret this whole story... Attila # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Attila Bujt=?ISO-8859-1?B?4Q==?=s" Subject: RE: (klf) Fnord, Mp3s and Hotline Date: 26 Feb 2000 02:46:04 +0100 > somebody on the list had mentioned (suggested?) putting the fnord archives > on Hotline for all to abuse... > > I may actually be willing to do this, once i figure out a way to swing a > larger Hard Drive (my cuirrent one is only 4 gigs). > > Wehile i dont have ALL of the materials that the fnord server did, i DO have > probably 1/2 to 2/3rds... at least one full cds worth, and im sure that some > list members would help out as well... > > Any input? I could upload almost everything from a 20k fast cable. Attila # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) Thanx David! Date: 25 Feb 2000 21:18:19 PST You are such a dipshit. Excuse my English too please. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shilo & Michele Maggi Subject: Re: (klf) Thanx David! Date: 25 Feb 2000 21:35:23 -0800 Nice attitude. Namecalling rocks. Mature, too. -s- > You are such a dipshit. > > Excuse my English too please. > > Chad > ______________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) Thanx David! Date: 25 Feb 2000 22:51:47 PST >Nice attitude. > >Namecalling rocks. Mature, too. > Sorry. I shouldn't have said that. It's just that it seems to me that people are so used to getting stuff for free online (shareware, MP3s, warez, ect) that it gets to the point where they think that someone *owes* them the stuff. If some guy has a server and some stuff on it and he wants to be picky about who uses it, that's totaly within his rights. If he want's to only three people in on it, so what? Just because he has a server does not obligate him to give everyone, or anyone access to it. No tax dollars go to support fnord (well, none of mine anyway). And if the machine is a mere Pentum 60 with 24 MB of RAM and a HD with many defective sectors (such is the case with fnord last I knew), and he says it's getting bogged by too much traffic, I believe him! Maybe *he* actually wants to use the thing for something (storing his own stuff to make it accessable to him when on another machine, which is what I do). And when something unfortunate like this happens (the closing of fnord) and someone writes the sysop a email calling him a selfish horder or whatever because while he was giving away dozens of MP3s to hundereds of people he just wasn't giving *enough*...it seems to earn the name dipshit. Not in a dogmatic sense, but an almost scientific sense. But I won't do anymore name calling around here. I promise. But as for maturity...this is the KLF mailing list right? The I'm going to go paint my band's name on a private billboard, burn a million quid KLF? OK, I'll be more mature now too. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shilo & Michele Maggi Subject: Re: (klf) Thanx David! Date: 25 Feb 2000 23:19:54 -0800 > But as for maturity...this is the KLF mailing list right? The I'm going to > go paint my band's name on a private billboard, burn a million quid KLF? Touche. Cheers! -s- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Subject: (klf) (KLF) Chill Out and others... Date: 26 Feb 2000 12:50:40 +0500 Hi, all ! There is a small problem - in my country (as it seems), there is NO KLF music at all !! I'm talking about Russia... All I have is 7 year old The White Room album (with no inlays/credits etc.) - not a CD but tape, and copy of The KLF FAQ (oct 1994). It is impossible, but it is true ... I only know (from FAQ)that there are such great things as Doctorin' The Tardis, Chill Out, It's Grim Up North etc. - but NEVER had a chance to listen them ! So, somebody help me - where can I find MP3 variants of this realy great music ? Please, don't send me megabytes of music directly (i have only a 19200 and VERY HIGH prices for the Internet access) - only some adresses if you can ! With best regards Dan mailto: dan88@bashnet.ru # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Herbert Subject: (klf) Fnord Date: 26 Feb 2000 08:44:12 +0000 If Attila wants a KLF ftp server everyone can access, with the associated maintenance costs and copyright hassles, he can always set his own up... Jon Herbert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) Thanx David! Date: 26 Feb 2000 09:20:11 -0000 >therefore the server has to close. Sorry Stuart, but surely if the server is intended as a private one and the various list members who are complaining now its gone were all direct invitees there - rather than friends of friends of friends of the original invitees - then presumably all that needs to be done is for the login and password to be changed and then emailed privately to the chosen few. I don't quite see how "therefore the server has to close" at all. Assuming the server software allows it, the number of simultaneous connections could be lowered to prevent a recurrence in similar circumstances. Then who's seriously lost out? OK, over a period, there's a likelihood that some people will be given the l/p second-hand, and gradually the traffic will build up - but while it's a pain in the arse, I would have thought it was reasonably manageable. I agree, it was probably naive giving the l/p out (to me) on the mailing list rather than privately - but nevertheless, it was just on a private mailing list, not on a non-private usenet newsgroup. And I was grateful - even if I barely had time to see what riches were on there. And I think it's great if someone goes to the time and trouble of setting up an ftp server for all this material, but as KLF fans they will have been benefiting too - from the uploads people were making there. It's obviously a personal viewpoint as to whether that benefit offsets the extra hassle that maintaining such a server entails. At the end of the day, Attila made a mistake, but with good intentions and no malice intended. People are flaming him because they've lost out. I'm sorry but resumption of the private service shouldn't be a difficult one to attain if that's how it was truly intended, then everyone will be happy 8-) And finally, while I don't have a particularly fast or cheap connection to the 'net, I do have a large KLF collection and am happy to MP3 whatever I can for Shilo & Michelle, if they can get their plans off the ground. Cheers, Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: (klf) Studio Tapes Date: 26 Feb 2000 09:35:03 -0000 A few people have mentioned these recently, and one track that's surfaced (both in emails and mp3) seems to be known as LUTT or "UFO To Trancentral". Can anyone enlighten me as to the origin of these recordings? And also, what's known to exist etc etc? Yours (trying to get the mailing list back to talking about The KLF), Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) (KLF) Chill Out and others... Date: 26 Feb 2000 12:16:58 +0100 (CET) On Sat, 26 Feb 2000, Dan wrote: > It is impossible, but it is true ... I only know (from FAQ)that there > are such great things as Doctorin' The Tardis, Chill Out, It's Grim Up > North etc. - but NEVER had a chance to listen them ! It's Grim Up North is available on: http://web.pinknet.cz/aha/klf-igun.zip (39MB) Contains: The KLF - It's Grim Up North (For Love Not Money Club Mix).mp3 The KLF - It's Grim Up North (Omsk Mix).mp3 The KLF - It's Grim Up North (Part 1).mp3 The KLF - It's Grim Up North (Part 2).mp3 The KLF - It's Grim Up North (Radio Edit).mp3 The KLF - It's Grim Up North (Razormaid Mix).mp3 The KLF - Jerusalem On The Moors.mp3 -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: Re: (klf) Thanx David! Date: 26 Feb 2000 13:06:33 +0100 At 02:38 2000-02-26 , you wrote: >Another thing: I remember the KLF/KLF L/P. Do you remember? Guess how did I >know. VIA THE LIST. In the last year. If you remember that you must also remember why the l/p changed that time, and why the server was closed all together for a while? Oh, you don't? Well, let me refresh your memory then and also fill the new comers in... The fnord server was closed some time ago because of the same reasons it's closed now. Somebody blurted out the l/p in the wrong forum and soon all the info of the server had been submitted to mp3 search engines and such and the traffic became too much. After that Sponk added some textfiles to the server, clearly stating that the info shouldn't be spread like that or he would take the server down forever. You remember now, Attila? Now let's just let this matter go by... //Frid Mattias Frid "People say: 'Just read the Framtidsv. 4:313 facts!' Well, I've read them, S-35252 Vaxjo and you can have them back!" SWEDEN - Bill Drummond, "The Man" - http://www.student.vxu.se/home/mfrsv95/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alex Matveev Subject: Re: (klf) (KLF) Chill Out and others... Date: 26 Feb 2000 15:35:22 +0300 Hello Dan, Saturday, February 26, 2000, 10:50:40 AM, you wrote: D> There is a small problem - in my country (as it seems), D> there is NO KLF music at all !! I'm talking about Russia... D> All I have is 7 year old The White Room album (with no inlays/credits D> etc.) - not a CD but tape, and copy of The KLF FAQ (oct 1994). D> It is impossible, but it is true ... I only know (from FAQ)that there D> are such great things as Doctorin' The Tardis, Chill Out, It's Grim Up D> North etc. - but NEVER had a chance to listen them ! D> So, somebody help me - where can I find MP3 variants of this realy gre= at D> music ? Please, don't send me megabytes of music directly (i have only D> a 19200 and VERY HIGH prices for the Internet access) - only some D> adresses if you can ! =EE=EA=EE=EB=EE 3 CD MP3 KLF-related =F2=E2=EE=F0=F7=E5=F1=F2=E2=E0 =E2 =F2=EE=EC =F7=E8=F1=EB= =E5 =F0=E0=F0=E8=F2=E5=F2=FB, =E2=E8=E4=E5=EE =EC=EE=E6=E5=F2 =E1=FB=F2=FC =E4=E0=E6=E5 4 =ED=E0=E1=E5=F0=E5=F2=F1=FF -= =E2 =EF=EE=F0=FF=E4=EE=EA =E5=F9=E5 =ED=E5 =EF=F0=E8=E2=E5=EB =E5=F1=EB=E8 =E8=ED=F2=E5=F0=E5=F1=ED=EE =EF=EE=EA=F3=EF=E0=F2=FC =EF=EE = 250=F0 =E7=E0 =E4=E8=F1=EA - =EF=F0=E8=E2=E5=E4=F3 =E2 =F2=EE=E2=E0=F0=ED= =FB=E9 =E2=E8=E4 --=20 Best regards, Alex mailto:zaz968@mosbusiness.ru # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: (klf) Archive Date: 26 Feb 2000 16:35:36 -0000 I've re-found the archive, sorry (it's a bit hard to find the info you want though!) http://www.xmission.com/pub/lists/klf/archive/ Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Neil Kelly" Subject: Re: (klf) Thanx David! Date: 25 Feb 2000 16:12:06 EST >You just forgot one thing: IT WAS FOR THE KLF LIST MEMBERS not for the >public. Nobody advertise it for the public. NOBODY. But this list is publicly archived. Therefore, *you* advertised it publicly. I never had a problem getting the password to fnord if I wanted to poke around and see what was available, I simply emailed the administrators. Alas, 'tis no more. Next time, when it says "do not publicly post the password" (or words to that effect), take heed. -neilbert ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: victor alexander Subject: (klf) Re: RE: Date: 26 Feb 2000 03:33:01 -0800 (PST) I don't know. It's downloaded by my friend from a Hotline MP3 server. There is another one, the 02_LoveTime. I will put on tripod soon, but we have to complete the download first what is not that easy because it's a 56k modem server. (Sometimes the speed is 500 byte/sec :o[ ) I thought that you guys know that track. Is this a home made remix? If not, where did it come from? -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 8:58 AM http://www.members.tripod.com/heavy_cargo/03_UfoToTrancentral Is this the one that some mention as LUTT? ===== Victor Alexander "Life is too harsh, my coffee shouldn't be" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: victor alexander Subject: (klf) Re: RE: Date: 25 Feb 2000 15:21:25 -0800 (PST) I don't know. It's downloaded by my friend from a Hotline MP3 server. There is another one, the 02_LoveTime. I will put on tripod soon, but we have to complete the download first what is not that easy because it's a 56k modem server. (Sometimes the speed is 500 byte/sec :o[ ) I thought that you guys know that track. Is this a home made remix? If not, where did it come from? -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 8:58 AM http://www.members.tripod.com/heavy_cargo/03_UfoToTrancentral Is this the one that some mention as LUTT? ===== Victor Alexander "Life is too harsh, my coffee shouldn't be" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ===== Victor Alexander "Life is too harsh, my coffee shouldn't be" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Twilight Isotope" Subject: Fw: (klf) Fnord, Mp3s and Hotline Date: 26 Feb 2000 01:54:06 -0000 What exactly is the aim of this? To create a mirror of Fnord? Or a totally new archive? The Fnord l/p has been announced on this list several times in the past... But AFAIK it has always been intended for the (light) use of the list members and not for public release... The l/p, I believe, was last changed because Fnord had been found on many search engines.... I think that type of availability is a bad idea, and not only because of the bandwidth problems it can create.... I don't think a new archive would be a very good idea... I have great respect for Sponk & co for what they have done for this community... I don't know if Fnord is offline entirely or just has a new l/p (well it still seems to be up, but I have no idea about who has access). If it is still around, I don't see the point of creating a new archive... If there is now no Fnord at all tho, maybe it would be a good idea... And I know Fnord has problems with disk space... I don't know about hotline, but you're gonna need about 5 gig at least for everything that is going to be around in the near future... And a reliable host and decent bandwidth.... ----- Original Message ----- Cc: "KLF (E-mail)" Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 1:20 AM > > X- > > Thanks kindly. > > Its going to take me a week or two to get everything sorted and work on > scraping $ together for a new hard drive, etc. In the meantime, any > suggestions from list members are greatly appreciated! > > Those who do contribute in any significant form will be given admin accounts > on the server. > > Cheers all! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: (klf) How long has the list been going/is there an archive/fnord? Date: 26 Feb 2000 16:23:28 -0000 Hello all, I was just wondering how long the mailing list has been going. I first subscribed when the list also covered the Orb, and am pretty confident it wasn't terribly long after the KLF "retired", maybe 92 or earlier. Does anyone have some more exact details on when it first started? Also, is there an archive, in particular going back to the start of the list? I'm sure there used to be but I've forgotten where it is :) My two-penneths re fnord: I too agree that the site has been mentioned with somewhat "hushed tones". I've been on and off the list for a long time as I said above and have never had access to it, but since I mostly lurk I don't expect to automatically receive download rights to someone else's site (plus to be fair I've never asked). It would be nice of course, but it's not a right. That said, I believe that if the KLF's music is to be liberated, kopyright liberated shall we say, it ought to be for all. For example, some excellent MP3 sets were produced a few years ago by a list member and sold for a pretty high fee. Initially that might have been (just about) justifiable to help defer the cost of the collection and the then high price of CDRs and writers. However simple maths would suggest that from the number of enquiries on this list, the number of people who say they've bought the set, and the general net interest in KLF MP3s (I get a lot of trading enquries about them), a *very* considerable profit has been made. This locking out of list members by password or price doesn't seem correct to me. What I think we ought to do is look into the possibility of CDR trees. For too long a lot of the posts on this list have been about money, "how much is this worth?", "I'm pressing (an extortionately priced) bootleg", etc. We all love the KLF, so let's go co-operative! I've already got hold of the first 3 MP3 collections by trading with an esteemed list member (alas my CDR drive is broken at the moment so can't trade any more for a while) and that is much more preferable than paying 45 quid for them. It's also IMHO more ETHICAL to trade for "liberated" material than charge for it. Because of the huge number of rare items, there's tons of stuff to trade, and with new material coming online (such as the MP3 of Bill on Radio 4) I think that might continue... Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xavier Ehret" Subject: RE: (klf) Fnord, Mp3s and Hotline Date: 26 Feb 2000 02:14:00 +0100 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-klf@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-klf@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Shilo & Michele > Maggi Sent: samedi 26 f=E9vrier 2000 01:04 > To: Mailing List KLF > Subject: (klf) Fnord, Mp3s and Hotline > > > > somebody on the list had mentioned (suggested?) putting the fnord > archives on Hotline for all to abuse... > > I may actually be willing to do this, once i figure out a way to > swing a larger Hard Drive (my cuirrent one is only 4 gigs). > > Wehile i dont have ALL of the materials that the fnord server > did, i DO have > probably 1/2 to 2/3rds... at least one full cds worth, and im > sure that some > list members would help out as well... > > Any input? > i can help you. I have quite a big KLF collection, and would be willing to make mp3 copies of anything. Let me know Cheers Xav -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.5.3 iQA/AwUBOLcaya6baoXJ3KzBEQKHmACfb3wT8Q3vau8BIBgFZXjoFZyNVk4AnRKw R2Fl4bF0jnpzhUMIfWJIMiOk =3DsVeD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: " \"Christopher.D.Gilmour\"" Subject: (klf) DowningStreet white room Date: 26 Feb 2000 16:54:48 +0000 (GMT) I've been on this list for a long time and although it's a lame subject, no one's ever mentioned the white room in 10 Downing Street. The 10 downing street web site has a page devoted to it http://www.number-10.gov.uk/default.asp?Pageld=63 BORING # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: (klf) Review of "45" in today's Guardian Date: 26 Feb 2000 18:04:32 -0000 There is a fairly long and generally positive review of "45" in the "Saturday" part of today's Guardian. It's also on one of the Guardian's websites: http://www.booksunlimited.co.uk/reviews/artsandentertainment/0,6121,140611,00.html Cheers, Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: (klf) Fnord, Mp3s and Hotline Date: 26 Feb 2000 14:16:42 EST > I don't know about hotline, but you're gonna need about 5 gig > at least for everything that is going to be around in the near future... And > a reliable host and decent bandwidth.... I don't think that much. Depends how much lossly related K material you intend on having. I made an mp3 collection for work and it's about a cd and a half at 128k. Add all the other misc tracks and maybe 3 full cds, or a gig and a half. Of course, if you'll be adding videos, then... -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (klf) How long has the list been going/is there an archive/fnord? Date: 26 Feb 2000 19:26:52 -0000 I was just wondering how long the mailing list has been going. I first subscribed when the list also covered the Orb, and am pretty confident it wasn't terribly long after the KLF "retired", maybe 92 or earlier. Does anyone have some more exact details on when it first started? The list has been going since at least 1990/1991, because that's when I first joined... Lazlo? Also, is there an archive, in particular going back to the start of the list? I'm sure there used to be but I've forgotten where it is :) Archives are at http://www.xmission.com/pub/lists/klf/archive/ Hope this helps, Nick King ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: (klf) E-Train To Trancentral Date: 26 Feb 2000 20:47:54 +0100 Hi, I asked for this "Last Train To Trancentral" version some days ago. You can hear it in "Waiting", in "What Time Is Love? Virtual Reality Mix" and in this "Made @ 3 a.m." thing. So I am very sure that it is/was available on 12". Now the question: Is THIS "E-Train To Trancentral"? (The woman's voice sounds very "Eish" I think :) How does the "Last Train To Trancentral" remix version from the KLF 008R sound like? -- Torsten Pattberg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shilo & Michele Maggi Subject: Re: (klf) Fnord, Mp3s and Hotline Date: 26 Feb 2000 12:02:15 -0800 > What exactly is the aim of this? To create a mirror of Fnord? Or a totally > new archive? It would be a totally new archive, but considering the fact that fnord had such a huge library, I hesitate to actually use the term "new". > I don't think a new archive would be a very good idea... I have great > respect for Sponk & co for what they have done for this community... I don't > know if Fnord is offline entirely or just has a new l/p (well it still seems > to be up, but I have no idea about who has access). If it is still around, I > don't see the point of creating a new archive... I completely agree. This is in no way an attempt to replace fnords contributions, and if fnord *IS* still available then this is probably not necessary. However, there WERE alot of people who had no access to fnord even while it WAS around, and I am sure that if it IS still in existance, it will be on an even MORE insanely elite (and I do NOT use that term in a derogatory fashion) scale. A new server may well serve those who havent been list members for years and thus dont have the swing enough to get an l/p for fnord. Im just brainstorming here so that this wealth of materials arent lost to future generations. ;) Of list members, at least. And for the record, it seems alot of people are not familiar with Hotline. Hotline is NOT ftp, but hotline is a file transfer program. It was originally a Mac only protocol, and was used mainly for chat and warez.. these days it seems to be used mostly for porn and mp3s. However, there are quite a few cool specialty servers on it. One of the things that I enjoy about it is the fact that users logged into the server can see and chat with each other, as well as post to the news. Its actually a pretty cool deal. Servers are listed on trackers, and users can go and check a tracker for all available servers on it, as well as their "topics" or a server can be kept private, off the trackers... you can download the client software at http://www.bigredh.com and get a listing of trackers at http://www.hotlinecentral.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) E-Train To Trancentral Date: 26 Feb 2000 15:02:57 EST > How does the "Last Train To Trancentral" remix version from the KLF 008R > sound like? Same as the Pure Trance Last Train but with heavy reverb. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Fnord, Mp3s and Hotline Date: 26 Feb 2000 20:43:53 -0000 > > I don't know about hotline, but you're gonna need about 5 gig > > at least for everything that is going to be around in the near future... > And > > a reliable host and decent bandwidth.... > > I don't think that much. Depends how much lossly related K material you > intend on having. If the disc space and bandwith are there you may as well be completist, it really doesn't add up to _that_ much and will save years of hunting obscure items for the obsessed fan. > I made an mp3 collection for work and it's about a cd and > a half at 128k. Add all the other misc tracks and maybe 3 full cds, or a gig > and a half. Of course, if you'll be adding videos, then... As I alluded to earlier, a 4 CD MP3 set and a 2 CD video set are already doing the rounds, not including recent (last year or so?) material (anything that has arisen from Bill's new book, the new 3am (?) bootleg that's been discussed, 1-2-1, recent Scourge Of The Earth remixes, etc.) and a few other things that slipped through the net. So, maybe 7 x 650 MB, whatever that comes to. (Plus I'm sure someone said the video collection files were too small in their current forms?) Again as said earlier, I favour putting it onto CDR. Blanks are dirt cheap, and relatively permanent. Add in KLF pictures, articles, a copy of the discography, and maybe even a nice frontend (a bit of VB or Delphi, and some pretty graphics) and we could have the kind of resource we've previously only dreamed of. Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Review of "45" in today's Guardian Date: 26 Feb 2000 20:47:53 -0000 > There is a fairly long and generally positive review of "45" in the "Saturday" part of today's Guardian. > > It's also on one of the Guardian's websites: http://www.booksunlimited.co.uk/reviews/artsandentertainment/0,6121,140611,0 0.html Thanks for that, an interesting read. I thought it was a more than generally positive review, really; I know he wasn't totally emphatic about the book but his painting of Bill Drummond's career surely would leave the reader wanting to know more. The guy has a feel for the KLF I think. Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alexander Janzer Subject: (klf) disillusionment Date: 26 Feb 2000 22:58:32 +0100 Hi, In the Guardian Interview with Bill D. there is this summary of a short story from "45", [starting quote] "that involved a journalist from Time Out who had been one of the KLF's most ardent fans." "In 1988, at the age of 12, he had bought our 'Doctorin' the Tardis'. He got on board. Then through his teenage years he had faithfully followed our every move. We were the idealised big brothers he never had. On our retirement from the music business in 1992, he even wrote a book recounting our exploits. Then that night in 1997, after we daubed our message on the grey concrete and were about to speed off looking for some after-hours action, I shook our former teenage Number One Fan's hand and wished him well. In that moment, as our hands shook, I detected something in the glint of his eye: disillusionment, as real and pure as disillusionment can get. Almost as powerful and strong as when I saw that bit of dark curly hair sticking out the back of that Resident's eyeball mask. In our (Jimmy's and my) short journey through pop, that moment of disillusionment was maybe our greatest creation. Without that final state of disillusion, the power and glory of pop is nothing. And when it happens (and if it has not already happened for you, it surely will), savour it, because it very quickly slithers into disinterest and gets forgotten as life marches on." [end quote] So my question is: Who is this "journalist from Time Out, one of the KLF's most ardent fans"? Is he on the list or does anyone know him? Regards, Alex # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (klf) disillusionment Date: 26 Feb 2000 23:02:54 -0000 So my question is: Who is this "journalist from Time Out, one of the KLF's most ardent fans"? Is he on the list or does anyone know him? Wasn't he the guy that wrote those KLF fanzines that appeared just after the KLF split? Damn, I'm still trying to think of his name... If so, then he was/is still on the list... Stuart somebody?? Nick ;-( # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) disillusionment Date: 26 Feb 2000 23:56:00 -0000 > In the Guardian Interview with Bill D. there is this summary > of a short story from "45", [starting quote] "that involved > a journalist from Time Out who had been one of the KLF's most > ardent fans." > > "In 1988, at the age of 12, he had bought our 'Doctorin' the > Tardis'. He got on board. Then through his teenage years he had > faithfully followed our every move. We were the idealised big > brothers he never had. On our retirement from the music > business in 1992, he even wrote a book recounting our exploits. > So my question is: > Who is this "journalist from Time Out, one of the KLF's most > ardent fans"? Is he on the list or does anyone know him? Without wishing to misrepresent him (apologies if I am wrong) that sounds to me like it may be Pete (Peter) Robinson. He has been seen on the list on occasion. He wrote an excellent fanzine/mini-book on the KLF, the one with the bright pink cover, and was quite young at the time, which all fits. Has written for Melody Maker I believe and quite possibly Time Out too... yup, that's my guess, now tell me I'm horribly wrong :) Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) disillusionment Date: 27 Feb 2000 00:59:27 +0100 (CET) On Sat, 26 Feb 2000, Alexander Janzer wrote: > So my question is: > Who is this "journalist from Time Out, one of the KLF's most > ardent fans"? Is he on the list or does anyone know him? Mick Houghton? Sky Magazine October 1997: THE RETURN OF THE KLF ... Mick Houghton, the KLF's publicist, has worked with Drummond and Cauty for all of their 10 years together. He was the man left to explain to the press why they killed that sheep and dumped it outside the Brit Awards party and why they burnt a million quid when there are thousands of charities that would have given a lorryload of collecting tins for it. He should, by rights, be stricken by nervous convulsions whenever Drummond or Cauty's names are mentioned, but instead he's brimming with delight because today, Friday 15 August, he is able to play to someone other than himself the new KLF/2K single. "I thought they'd do something this year. It's their 10th anniversary and they'd thought about a box set or a greatest hits but this is far more them. And there's only so long you can keep it to yourself," he says walking over to the stereo. "It's just too exciting to keep a secret." He presses play. ... -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: (klf) Chill Out Date: 27 Feb 2000 00:02:03 +0000 Could we all? Please. We're all fans of the same music, we all want to get more than we already have, most likely want ot get everything they ever did, but what ever happend to trawling the classifieds, going to record fairs, or calling obscure second hand record stores in far away places? Isn't that what collecting music is all about? Not just connecting to some server somewhere and downloading the entire life and works of Bill and Jimmy in a few hours - where's the fun in that? Yes - I do know that in some countries certain music is hard to find, belive me I know what it's like - I spent over in a year in the US (OK, better than most, but still hard), at which time I managed to get about half my KLF collection, mostly on vinyl, and mostly from garage sales, record fairs and places like eBay. Far more fun than logging on and downloading - lots of friends made, and experiences to remember. Sorry for the rant - I guess that I'm just a bit traditional when it comes to things like this. Craig! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: illitrate Subject: RE: (klf) disillusionment Date: 27 Feb 2000 00:04:57 +0000 - 26/2/00 - Deciphered incoming transmission from: Nick King >So my question is: >Who is this "journalist from Time Out, one of the KLF's most >ardent fans"? Is he on the list or does anyone know him? >Wasn't he the guy that wrote those KLF fanzines that appeared just after the >KLF split? Damn, I'm still trying to think of his name... >If so, then he was/is still on the list... Stuart somebody?? the guy who wrote those was Pete Robinson, no? i don't think he was ever a Time Out jornalist though. mind you, the description of him in that quote sounds a lot like myself - i've never been a journalist though, and i shook Bill's hand at Bad Wisdom reading, not in 1997. and the disillusionment came this Xmas with the lack of any millenial action from them. . -- --- Don't you ever wonder, don't you ever think don't you even care, is your brain on the blink I blame the Turtles - an influence bad All the little Children, brain dead, its sad http://www.cleanroom.co.uk/bttp/ - Back To The Planet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (klf) disillusionment Date: 27 Feb 2000 00:05:00 -0000 Without wishing to misrepresent him (apologies if I am wrong) that sounds to me like it may be Pete (Peter) Robinson. He has been seen on the list on occasion. He wrote an excellent fanzine/mini-book on the KLF, the one with the bright pink cover, and was quite young at the time, which all fits. Has written for Melody Maker I believe and quite possibly Time Out too... yup, that's my guess, now tell me I'm horribly wrong :) Steve Yup, Pete Robinson - that's who I was thinking of! Must really get some sleep now ;-) Nick ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: illitrate Subject: Re: (klf) Chill Out Date: 27 Feb 2000 00:10:28 +0000 - 27/2/00 - Deciphered incoming transmission from: Craig Earnshaw >We're all fans of the same music, we all want to get more than we >already have, most likely want ot get everything they ever did, but what >ever happend to trawling the classifieds, going to record fairs, or >calling obscure second hand record stores in far away places? Isn't >that what collecting music is all about? Not just connecting to some >server somewhere and downloading the entire life and works of Bill and >Jimmy in a few hours - where's the fun in that? yup i totally agree. trouble is, my collection is far from complete, but its as good as it is probably likely to get. but you are right - there is no value in an MP3. it is the hunt that makes it all so interesting, and makes you appreciate the tracks and their rarety when you finally track them down. . -- --- Don't you ever wonder, don't you ever think don't you even care, is your brain on the blink I blame the Turtles - an influence bad All the little Children, brain dead, its sad http://www.cleanroom.co.uk/bttp/ - Back To The Planet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: illitrate Subject: Re: (klf) LTTT version Date: 27 Feb 2000 00:16:22 +0000 - 24/2/00 - Deciphered incoming transmission from: Torsten Pattberg >No it isn't. I am not talking about this remix which uses the whole "Go To >Sleep" sample. It is (as I write above) the Pure Trance Version with a short >sample (I am not sure if it is "Go To Sleep", it's too short to recognize) >as in "Waiting". are you sure it isn't just that then? a mix of the pure trance version with the sample thrown across the top??? . -- --- Don't you ever wonder, don't you ever think don't you even care, is your brain on the blink I blame the Turtles - an influence bad All the little Children, brain dead, its sad http://www.cleanroom.co.uk/bttp/ - Back To The Planet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: illitrate Subject: Re: (klf) Who's the Gimp? Date: 27 Feb 2000 00:15:01 +0000 what is planned? how long will it last? (tyring to work out when the last train will be (no pun intended, honestly)) - 23/2/00 - Deciphered incoming transmission from: M-A-D >8:00pm 1st March, 2000 >The New Foundry Ltd., >Great Eastern Street. >London >Nearest Tube : Old Street >http://www.t2k.net . -- --- Don't you ever wonder, don't you ever think don't you even care, is your brain on the blink I blame the Turtles - an influence bad All the little Children, brain dead, its sad http://www.cleanroom.co.uk/bttp/ - Back To The Planet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (klf) disillusionment Date: 27 Feb 2000 00:23:31 -0000 Without wishing to misrepresent him (apologies if I am wrong) that sounds to me like it may be Pete (Peter) Robinson. He has been seen on the list on occasion. He wrote an excellent fanzine/mini-book on the KLF, the one with the bright pink cover, and was quite young at the time, which all fits. Has written for Melody Maker I believe and quite possibly Time Out too... yup, that's my guess, now tell me I'm horribly wrong :) Steve Yup, Pete Robinson - that's who I was thinking of! Must really get some sleep now ;-) Nick ;-) Yep, just confirmed it. If you check out Erik's web page at www.klf.cx and navigate to articles (September '97, Time Out), the interviewer was indeed Pete Robinson. Nick (going to sleep right now - honest!) ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: illitrate Subject: Re: (klf) E-Train To Trancentral Date: 27 Feb 2000 00:36:10 +0000 - 26/2/00 - Deciphered incoming transmission from: Torsten Pattberg >I asked for this "Last Train To Trancentral" version some days ago. E-train isn't a version of Last Train... E-train was the last of the Pure Trance series, wasn't it? >You can >hear it in "Waiting", in "What Time Is Love? Virtual Reality Mix" and in >this "Made @ 3 a.m." thing. So I am very sure that it is/was available on >12". Now the question: i _seriously_ doubt it is available. if it was, someone would have found the 12" before now and the fact would have leaked. at the most, it'll be on a demo tape somewhere, but i wouldn't hold your breath. and just cos you are hearing the same thing in those tracks, doesn't mean its from that track - just a stock sample they've got. >Is THIS "E-Train To Trancentral"? (The woman's voice sounds very "Eish" I >think :) how do you mean, very Eish? is it the bit at 04:05 in WTIL:VR?? thats just a slowed down sample from GoToSleep, surely? and the bit at 4:40 is just a loop of the EE out of slEEp. there aren't any other female voices are there? . -- --- Don't you ever wonder, don't you ever think don't you even care, is your brain on the blink I blame the Turtles - an influence bad All the little Children, brain dead, its sad http://www.cleanroom.co.uk/bttp/ - Back To The Planet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: MP3 (was Re: (klf) Chill Out) Date: 27 Feb 2000 01:39:43 +0100 (CET) On Sun, 27 Feb 2000, Craig Earnshaw wrote: > We're all fans of the same music, we all want to get more than we > already have, most likely want ot get everything they ever did, but what > ever happend to trawling the classifieds, going to record fairs, or > calling obscure second hand record stores in far away places? Isn't > that what collecting music is all about? Not just connecting to some > server somewhere and downloading the entire life and works of Bill and > Jimmy in a few hours - where's the fun in that? I started collecting KLF things in December of last year. Before I heard only LTTT. Via Napster I tryed collect it all... after two months I have got (big) collection. Not few hours, but many queries, timeouts, download aborts, etc. At first, I was discovering music of The KLF, at second I was reading Lazlo's discography and finally, I started to discover relations in their music, their history and etc. Fun? Yep, I'm telling about KLF to other people... MP3 file format is same thing as a CD: just medium for idea. Music and its meaning is important. To have rare single as a one of only 50 persons planet is nice, but it isn't important for me. I'm busy with other things. This is good compromise for me. Just my feeling... (and I do apologize for grammar errors, my english is terrible...) -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) Who's the Gimp? Date: 27 Feb 2000 00:49:38 +0000 > >8:00pm 1st March, 2000 > >The New Foundry Ltd., > >Great Eastern Street. > >London > >Nearest Tube : Old Street > >http://www.t2k.net Well.... Internic holds the following information on the www.t2k.net - self plug? :-) Registrant: Massive Audio Destruction (T2K2-DOM) 13 Oxford Street Middlesborough, TS1 4NN UK Domain Name: t2k.net Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact: NETCOM Internet Ltd. Hostmaster (NIL-ORG) hostmaster@CORP.NETCOM.NET.UK +44 (0)1344 395500 Fax- +44 (0)1344 420515 Billing Contact: NETCOM Internet Ltd. InterNIC Billing (NIL2-ORG) internic-bill@CORP.NETCOM.NET.UK +44 (0)1344 395500 Fax- +44 (0)1344 420515 Record last updated on 07-Sep-1998. Record created on 09-Jun-1998. Database last updated on 26-Feb-2000 12:34:27 EST. Domain servers in listed order: AS0.NETCOM.NET.UK 194.42.224.129 AS1.NETCOM.NET.UK 194.42.238.120 AS2.NETCOM.NET.UK 194.42.238.185 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shilo & Michele Maggi Subject: Re: MP3 (was Re: (klf) Chill Out) Date: 26 Feb 2000 17:50:46 -0800 >> We're all fans of the same music, we all want to get more than we >> already have, most likely want ot get everything they ever did, but what >> ever happend to trawling the classifieds, going to record fairs, or >> calling obscure second hand record stores in far away places? Isn't >> that what collecting music is all about? Not just connecting to some >> server somewhere and downloading the entire life and works of Bill and >> Jimmy in a few hours - where's the fun in that? > > other people... > > MP3 file format is same thing as a CD: just medium for idea. Music and its > meaning is important. To have rare single as a one of only 50 persons > planet is nice, but it isn't important for me. I'm busy with other things. > This is good compromise for me. Agreed, but not everybody is a collector. Some people just enjoy the music without having time to spend hours and hours (and dollars and dollars) building their collection. I am a huge collector, and have a sizeable collection, but I know that there are quite a few pieces that I will NEVER see, and I enjoy having in mp3 (and in turn cd) form so that I can listen to them in spite of the fact that i dont own the vinyl. As collectors we often forget that not EVERYBODY else is. Alot of people dont have the time to put into building a collection. -s- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) disillusionment Date: 26 Feb 2000 21:05:51 EST > Who is this "journalist from Time Out, one of the KLF's most > ardent fans"? Is he on the list or does anyone know him? Pete Robinson. I think he joins the list occasionally but pretty much keeps quiet. Exchanged email with him a few times. Good guy. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Who's the Gimp? Date: 26 Feb 2000 21:10:13 EST > what is planned? how long will it last? Isn't it about time for the 25hour Spin? -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: Re: (klf) LTTT version Date: 27 Feb 2000 03:05:32 +0100 > a mix of the pure trance version with the sample thrown across the top??? No, because it appears in 3 different tracks and always sounds equal. Torsten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: Re: (klf) E-Train To Trancentral Date: 27 Feb 2000 03:08:14 +0100 > E-train isn't a version of Last Train... > E-train was the last of the Pure Trance series, wasn't it? I thought it maybe is a version from between Go To Sleep and Last Train..., but who knows. > and just cos you are hearing the same thing in those tracks, doesn't > mean its from that track - just a stock sample they've got. Maybe. > how do you mean, very Eish? > is it the bit at 04:05 in WTIL:VR?? thats just a slowed down sample > from GoToSleep, surely? > and the bit at 4:40 is just a loop of the EE out of slEEp. > there aren't any other female voices are there? Thats what I meant with Eish :) The slEEp thing... Torsten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Who's the Gimp? Date: 27 Feb 2000 02:31:13 -0000 > > >8:00pm 1st March, 2000 > > >The New Foundry Ltd., > > >Great Eastern Street. > > >London > > >Nearest Tube : Old Street > > >http://www.t2k.net > > Well.... > > Internic holds the following information on the www.t2k.net - self plug? :-) > > Registrant: > Massive Audio Destruction (T2K2-DOM) Yeah, I noticed that too. And since this has come up on news:uk.music.alternative and I struggled to explain it, would somebody remind me who M/A/D are? Gimpo connections? Scamsters? Both of the above?? :) Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brendan" Subject: (klf) mp3's etc Date: 27 Feb 2000 16:34:25 +1100 hi all, if it'll help anyone, i've got nearly 700megs of mp3s that i can upload slowly to where ever they're needed. i dont have an ftp or web server i can put them onto, so i cant make them publicly available for dnload, and because of email restrictions, its very difficult for me to email the tracks to ppl also i'm sorry. i consider most of the tracks to be the standard tracks that most of the ppl who've been on the list a while would have. i've made none of the mp3's from my vinyl, so its all come from other sources accross the net. to all those who have helped me over the time i've been on the list, thank you muchly. its most appreciated. cheers brendan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Who's the Gimp? Date: 27 Feb 2000 02:02:25 EST > Yeah, I noticed that too. And since this has come up on > news:uk.music.alternative and I struggled to explain it, would somebody > remind me who M/A/D are? Gimpo connections? Scamsters? Both of the above?? > :) I'll probably miss a few facts and such but basically: Whole thing started around the time of 2K. Gimpo created the Millennium Crisis site that was done by MAD. Then came the M25 Spin (driving around the M25 for 25 hours straight for those who weren't around then) in which Bill joined in. Pretty quickly the site became less K related and more Gimpo's Home Page. It was touted about here pretty heavily but most of us (well, me certainly) soon lost interest. It was worth checking out occasionally if only for info on the KLF Burn a Million Quid book. After that it died a slow death. Every year, tho, Gimpo does his annual spin and invites anyone who wants to to hang on. I think that's what this is all about. The whole thing is vaguely K related primarily due to Gimpo once being their roadie and Bill partaking in the original trip (along with the mysterious Mr Green). To be honest I was surprised when I saw it pop back up. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: (klf) Bill D. Interview Date: 27 Feb 2000 09:47:11 -0000 Bill's interview is available on RealAudio here http://www.invisible.demon.co.uk/billdr4.htm I know the mailing list archives are archived so this is effectively going public, but please don't put links to this page on any sites. It's one thing us KLF fans breaching KLF Communications' copyright on recordings they've deleted - it's another thing altogether messing with the BBC. I've done an MP3 file too - if anyone wants access to it, email me and (when I've got it working) I'll tell them how to find it. Cheers, Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) disillusionment Date: 27 Feb 2000 09:50:48 -0000 > Pete Robinson. > Good guy. I'll second that. When I bought his "Justified And Ancient History" book(let) I wrote to him with all sorts of additional questions and received a long and friendly reply. Power to him 8-) Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: illitrate Subject: Re: (klf) Who's the Gimp? Date: 27 Feb 2000 10:53:04 +0000 - 27/2/00 - Deciphered incoming transmission from: TheMgnt@aol.com >Every year, tho, Gimpo does his annual spin and invites anyone who wants to >to hang on. I think that's what this is all about. The whole thing is >vaguely K related primarily due to Gimpo once being their roadie and Bill >partaking in the original trip (along with the mysterious Mr Green). To be >honest I was surprised when I saw it pop back up. Gimpo and MAD also do showings of Gimpo's outrageously bizzare films too - i think. i think this thing on the 1st will be something more like that. 8pm is a wierd time to start an M25 spin, and also, why give a tube station if you are going round the m25? unless they are doing it in a load of coaches or limos or something?? :) :) :) . -- --- Don't you ever wonder, don't you ever think don't you even care, is your brain on the blink I blame the Turtles - an influence bad All the little Children, brain dead, its sad http://www.cleanroom.co.uk/bttp/ - Back To The Planet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: illitrate Subject: Re: (klf) E-Train To Trancentral Date: 27 Feb 2000 10:49:26 +0000 - 27/2/00 - Deciphered incoming transmission from: Torsten Pattberg >> E-train isn't a version of Last Train... >> E-train was the last of the Pure Trance series, wasn't it? >I thought it maybe is a version from between Go To Sleep and Last Train..., >but who knows. from studying the discog and the dates on there, i'd say that E-train was planned as the 5th Pure Trance track.... but was then dropped in favour of The Lovers Side (the dates for E-train's release is only 7 days ahead of the LS - theres no remix 12" for E-train, but its rescheduled date is the same as the remix for LS). so its quite likely that E-train actually turned in to Go To Sleep while they were making it. of course, probably nothing like the GTS that is on the WROST - neither would the LS be the same as the PT version. >> how do you mean, very Eish? >> is it the bit at 04:05 in WTIL:VR?? thats just a slowed down sample >> from GoToSleep, surely? >> and the bit at 4:40 is just a loop of the EE out of slEEp. >> there aren't any other female voices are there? >Thats what I meant with Eish :) The slEEp thing... heheheehhee maybe that was what they were thinking too:) :) . -- --- Don't you ever wonder, don't you ever think don't you even care, is your brain on the blink I blame the Turtles - an influence bad All the little Children, brain dead, its sad http://www.cleanroom.co.uk/bttp/ - Back To The Planet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: illitrate Subject: (klf) PT5 Date: 27 Feb 2000 10:44:32 +0000 whats the deal with Pure Trance 5??? i've never noticed this before. in the discog its got: The KLF: What Time Is Love? (KLF 004T & 004R) ["Pure Trance 1"] The KLF: 3 a.m. Eternal (KLF 005T & 005R) ["Pure Trance 2"] The KLF: Love Trance (KLF 006T & 006R) ["Pure Trance 3"] The KLF: Turn Up The Strobe (KLF 007T & 007R) ["Pure Trance 4"] The KLF: E-Train To Trancentral (KLF 008T & 008R) E-Train To Trancentral The Lovers' Side ["Pure Trance 5 - The White Room"] The KLF: The Lovers' Side (KLF 00?T & 00?R) The Lovers' Side Go To Sleep ["Pure Trance 5"] i mean, is this a genuine confusion? not just a misprint, yes? so i'm assuming thta E-train was scrapped, or at least turned in to Goto Sleep, yes? . -- --- Don't you ever wonder, don't you ever think don't you even care, is your brain on the blink I blame the Turtles - an influence bad All the little Children, brain dead, its sad http://www.cleanroom.co.uk/bttp/ - Back To The Planet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: illitrate Subject: Re: (klf) LTTT version Date: 27 Feb 2000 10:49:34 +0000 - 27/2/00 - Deciphered incoming transmission from: Torsten Pattberg >> a mix of the pure trance version with the sample thrown across the top??? > >No, because it appears in 3 different tracks and always sounds equal. fair enough (to be honest, i was too lazy last nite to listen to more than one :) ) i recon then that its a sample from Goto Sleep, or perhaps a b-side type version they had kicking around, and they used it on WTIL:VR. and then its WTIL:VR that is sampled into Waiting and 3am.... . -- --- Don't you ever wonder, don't you ever think don't you even care, is your brain on the blink I blame the Turtles - an influence bad All the little Children, brain dead, its sad http://www.cleanroom.co.uk/bttp/ - Back To The Planet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremiah Rickert Subject: (klf) Bill interview Date: 27 Feb 2000 03:06:07 -0800 (PST) To the fellow who posted the link about the interview... could you email me the .mp3 you made of the interview as an attachment? I'd really appreciate that... jr Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: (klf) Re: "45" Date: 27 Feb 2000 11:08:44 +0000 (GMT) does anyone need a copy of this? i've managed to end up with two copies. if anyone wants to give me what i paid (10 UKP, plus postage to wherever you are) or a decent trade... ...drop me a line. cheers, ===== Smiley New spares list: http://come.to/SmileyWeb ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) disillusionment Date: 27 Feb 2000 09:57:28 +0000 (GMT) On Sat 26 Feb, Alexander Janzer wrote: > So my question is: Who is this "journalist from Time Out, one of the > KLF's most ardent fans"? Is he on the list or does anyone know him? I'm pretty sure that this sounds like Peter Robinson. Possibly the world's only Peter Robinson mini-biography drabble: = Peter "Pete" Robinson, KLF uberfan, author of fanzine "Justified and Ancient History" and possible lurker here, went on to produce two and a half issues of Utah Saints fanzine "The Machine" from '93 to '95. He then did a degree in something. While doing this he did some freelance (including Time Out), so that upon graduating he strolled into a cushy-sounding job in recently-revamped UK music weekly Melody Maker. It is believed that he is still located there to this day. Pete's particularly amusing and quite white web site can almost but not quite be found at: http://www.notmarilyn.freeserve.co.uk/ = Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/UtahSaints # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Kuta" Subject: (klf) KLF Info Sheets Date: 27 Feb 2000 13:33:56 GMT Hi all! Is there anyone who could (and would) scan the KLF info sheets? Thanks in advance!! DAN --- DJ Kuta /KLF Online (www.klf.de) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) E-Train To Trancentral Date: 27 Feb 2000 13:59:22 -0000 > - 27/2/00 - Deciphered incoming transmission from: Torsten Pattberg > >> E-train isn't a version of Last Train... > >> E-train was the last of the Pure Trance series, wasn't it? > >I thought it maybe is a version from between Go To Sleep and Last Train..., > >but who knows. > > from studying the discog and the dates on there, i'd say that E-train > was planned as the 5th Pure Trance track.... but was then dropped in > favour of The Lovers Side (the dates for E-train's release is only 7 > days ahead of the LS - theres no remix 12" for E-train, but its > rescheduled date is the same as the remix for LS). so its quite > likely that E-train actually turned in to Go To Sleep while they were > making it. I used to have (probably still have, somewhere) a bootleg tape dubbed for me by a KLF collector. It had all sorts of rarities on it, the original White Room, the ENT 3am, "Brooklyn New York", and so on. It also had a track that I'd always thought was E-Train To Trancentral, it was a couple of minutes of a freight train, with lots of echo and (relative to the train noise) small amounts of synth, if any synth at all. May just be memory playing tricks, and it's a Chill Out or LTTT remix but... Anyone know what that is? If I still have the tracklistings at all they're probably at my parents' house, but if no-one is able to identify the track I'll try and find the listing (and tape!). Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) E-Train To Trancentral Date: 27 Feb 2000 09:48:53 EST > I'd always thought was E-Train To Trancentral, it was a couple of minutes of > a freight train, with lots of echo and (relative to the train noise) small > amounts of synth, if any synth at all. May just be memory playing tricks, > and it's a Chill Out or LTTT remix but... Anyone know what that is? ETrain has yet to surface. This was most likely LTTT Pure Trance. Love Trance was believed not to have existed until it apparently surfaced a little over a year ago. no one can really confirm if it's KLF or not but I think the general consensus is that it sounds enough like them to be them. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: Re: (klf) LTTT version Date: 27 Feb 2000 17:51:58 +0100 > >No, because it appears in 3 different tracks and always sounds equal. > > i recon then that its a sample from Goto Sleep, or perhaps a b-side > type version they had kicking around, and they used it on WTIL:VR. > and then its WTIL:VR that is sampled into Waiting and 3am.... Possible. Torsten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: Re: (klf) E-Train To Trancentral Date: 27 Feb 2000 17:54:45 +0100 > I'd always thought was E-Train To Trancentral, it was a couple of minutes of > a freight train, with lots of echo and (relative to the train noise) small > amounts of synth, if any synth at all. May just be memory playing tricks, > and it's a Chill Out or LTTT remix but... Anyone know what that is? Could be the LTTT Remix 1, which is also on URT. Torsten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: Re: (klf) E-Train To Trancentral Date: 27 Feb 2000 17:57:10 +0100 > Love Trance was believed not to have existed until it apparently surfaced a > little over a year ago. no one can really confirm if it's KLF or not but I > think the general consensus is that it sounds enough like them to be them. How does Lazlo know the Love Trance tracklength, if it wasn't released? Have the times been scheduled, too? Btw, my "Love Trance" bootleg version is 10 sec shorter than written in the discography. Torsten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magick Temple" Subject: Re: (klf) Who's the Gimp? Date: 27 Feb 2000 17:09:44 -0000 Hi there This is by way of a delurk... I've only been on the list a couple of days, and wouldn't normally post so soon, but my reasons for joining were largely to try to find any info on this March 1st event, so time is running out... > - 23/2/00 - Deciphered incoming transmission from: M-A-D > >8:00pm 1st March, 2000 > >The New Foundry Ltd., > >Great Eastern Street. > >London > >Nearest Tube : Old Street > >http://www.t2k.net I'll try to add what I can to what's already been said... I called the New Foundry (0171 739 6900) and spoke to the bookings manager (Jonathon Madley)... as far as they're concerned the night was booked (by M/A/D - so it does appear to be a static event) ages ago, and they've heard no more since... it was booked as a 'Geek Night - Geeks only' and is a repeat of an event held last year for 'Geeks of all persausions' which was organised through the NTK (Need To Know) mailing list. Mr Madley said that he had considered cancelling the event, since he'd had no further contact with M/A/D and was unaware of any publicity, but is now confused since he's had a number of calls and mails asking what was happening. All he could say was that the event was free as was to be held in the evening, and that he'd mail me when he knew more. He suggested people didn't travel too far for it, as he couldn't insure against disappointment (since he has no idea what's happening himself). Checking the meta-tags on the t2K site reveals that at very least they want people to think there's a solid 2K connection (the tags specifically include 'KLF' '2K' 'Bill Drummond' 'Jimmy Cauty' etc) I came accross the site via www.fnord.demon.co.uk, which deals with Discordian politico-comedians Chris Morris and Mark Thomas... the link is a flashing 'FUCK THE MILLENIUM' gif with a wav of the track playing in the background (so they clearly believe, or want us to believe, that there's a real connection) All in all... I'm making a 240 mile round trip to London on Wednesday (against Mr Madley's advice) unless I can be sure it's a hoax... so any further info would be highly appreciated. cheerz all Mag xxxxx DISCORDIAN PROMOTIONS http://www.discordian.co.uk ICQ - 22014792 Grow More Weed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) Who's the Gimp? Date: 27 Feb 2000 18:47:12 +0000 Well, unless something (ie work) dictates otherwise I'll be there on Wednesday night - more than likely in an FTM T-shirt - so if anyone else goes, and spots me, do say hello - or give me a kicking depending on your preferance! (Must admit, I'd rather people did the former rather than the latter.....) Thanks Craig! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Herbert Subject: (klf) The hunt Date: 27 Feb 2000 19:20:02 +0000 > ...but you are right - there is no value in an MP3. it is the hunt > that makes it all so interesting, and makes you appreciate the tracks > and their rarety when you finally track them down. I agree... but I disagree too. The hunt is fun... but I hate finding something rare only to find it's crap, too. MP3s allow you to audition the music and find out what's really worth hunting... Jon Herbert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) E-Train To Trancentral Date: 27 Feb 2000 20:41:34 +0000 (GMT) > from studying the discog and the dates on there, i'd say that E-train > was planned as the 5th Pure Trance track.... but was then dropped in > favour of The Lovers Side (the dates for E-train's release is only 7 > days ahead of the LS - theres no remix 12" for E-train, but its > rescheduled date is the same as the remix for LS). so its quite > likely that E-train actually turned in to Go To Sleep while they were > making it. > of course, probably nothing like the GTS that is on the WROST - > neither would the LS be the same as the PT version. Although I can't be specific about the titles and stuff (I'm not sure why the confusion for Pure Trance 5's title is there, my memory of that stuff is a bit hazy now), I can say something about the dates. The plan was that they would release one single a week in the run up to the end of 1988. It started with "What Time Is Love" (PT1), witht he remix the next week. "3 AM" followed, although I think i was delayed, and at some point the remix was also released. It kindof all went a bit wrong from there on ... but it was planned that PT2 + remix would be followed by PT3, PT3-remix, PT4, PT4-remix, PT5 and PT-5 remix, in consecutive weeks. That's why the dates in the discogs are as they are. Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) How long has the list been going/is there an archive/fnord? Date: 27 Feb 2000 20:49:58 +0000 (GMT) > I was just wondering how long the mailing list has been going. I first > subscribed when the list also covered the Orb, and am pretty confident > it wasn't terribly long after the KLF "retired", maybe 92 or earlier. Does > anyone have some more exact details on when it first started? > The list has been going since at least 1990/1991, because that's when I > first joined... Lazlo? The first KLF list was created by me in 1991. It wasn't so much a discussion list (because I didn't have thew technology to do that back then), but more of a "newsletter" list, for the KLF and Orb activities at the time. It went out roughly every 2 weeks I think, although more frequently if there was a bundle of news and info, which happened from time to time. If people mailed me questions then I would put them in the newsletter and make some response usually. KLF@sysa.salford.ac.uk (or for JANET GreyBookers, KLF@uk.ac.salf.a) At some point (~92 probably) I had to stop doing it, and and that was when Pete Ashdown offered Lazlo (both list members) the chance to continue it as a proper discussion list on xmission.com, which is what happened. I think I sent Lazlo the list membership as it was when I stopped, but I can't remember if he used it or not. We probably mailed all those people to let them know about the new list, I dunno. I think it was later that the klf@xmission.com list was split to separate orb and klf lists, but I might be wrong on that. > Also, is there an archive, in particular going back to the start of the > list? I'm sure there used to be but I've forgotten where it is :) > Archives are at http://www.xmission.com/pub/lists/klf/archive/ Those are archives for the XMission list. I suppose there are archives around somewhere for the stuff I was sending out, but I'm not sure where. Maybe I have them on a floppy disk, if they aren't on the net somewhere. But quite possibly not ... :) Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (klf) E-Train To Trancentral Date: 27 Feb 2000 15:27:40 -0700 On Sun, Feb 27, 2000 at 05:57:10PM +0100, Torsten Pattberg wrote: >> Love Trance was believed not to have existed until it apparently surfaced a >> little over a year ago. no one can really confirm if it's KLF or not but I >> think the general consensus is that it sounds enough like them to be them. > > How does Lazlo know the Love Trance tracklength, if it wasn't released? One person reported having a vinyl copy in hand, and I believe the track was timed from there (it's been a while and I don't keep track of what info comes from where, sorry). The provenance of the item is in question, which is why the discog notes that it may be a counterfeit -- easy enough to do given that there are loads of sleeves and labels floating around out there! -- Lazlo Nibble - lazlo@studio-nibble.com - http://www.studio-nibble.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Everybody's doing weblogs and I conform! http://www.studio-nibble.com/weblog -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cory Wrench" Subject: (klf) Who's Going? Date: 27 Feb 2000 22:23:15 -0000 I'd quite like to go too, I'm wondering about getting back though since I live 100 odd miles north of London and don't have a car. If it goes on late is there anyone local going that I could borrow a bit of floor from for the night? Failing that, what time does the Millennium Dome close/open, I'm sure they'd love someone walking around there wearing an FTM shirt. Cory. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: 27 February 2000 17:09 > > Hi there > > This is by way of a delurk... I've only been on the list a couple of days, > and wouldn't normally post so soon, but my reasons for joining were largely > to try to find any info on this March 1st event, so time is running out... > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tobias Galeus" Subject: (klf) FNORD Date: 27 Feb 2000 20:06:08 +0100 Hey all! I just read throught the digest (thanks tas2012!) the latest days and found quite a lot of talk about FNORD. Yes, the server is closed. I intend to open it again when things have calmed down and I have installed a new harddisk. I have got lots of new stuff (thanks themgnt!) to put up, but I havent had the space to do it. Everyone, please calm down and stop flaming Attila. He didn't mean to do harm. EOD. I will post all info to the list when the time is right, fnord. 23 skidoo! Tobias, aka Sponk ex FNORD Siteop ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremiah Rickert Subject: Re: (klf) How long has the list been going/is there an Date: 27 Feb 2000 14:54:10 -0800 (PST) > At some point (~92 probably) I had to stop doing it, and and that was when > Pete Ashdown offered Lazlo (both list members) the chance to continue it as a > proper discussion list on xmission.com, which is what happened. I think I believe that the list was hosted by a different domain (not xmission) originally, though wasn't it? jr Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jeffrey@formstudio.com Subject: (klf) fa: klf ultra rare trax. Date: 27 Feb 2000 15:11:51 -0800 original disc from ca. 1993, good condition. email me for more detail including sale url. Jeffrey. klf - Ultra Rare Trax - KLF 1 all you need is love - original it's grim up north - club mix - for love not money mix what time is love - techno slam mix - techno scam mix 3 a.m. eternal - blue danube orbital last train to trancentral - remix kylie said to jason - full length version what time is love - the power remix gary glitter joins the jams justified and ancient - stand by the jams - 12" version 3 a.m. eternal - the klf with extreme noise terror what time is love - wandaful mix # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Hutchins Subject: (klf) 45 & KLF 8R Date: 28 Feb 2000 01:09:39 -0500 Hi everyone, 1) Has anybody noticed tat Bill Drummond's book "45" is almost exactly the dimensions of a 7" single? 2) Do any of the master (I'm only a journeyman) members of the list know why only the remix 12" (KLF 008R) for LTTT was released and not the usual standard issue KLF 008T 12"? Further, is there a definitive pure trance version of LTTT (the 12" says remix 1 and remix 2; but I have no knowledge of an actual original pure trance version). As always, a pleasure to talk to you guys (and 3 or 4 girls). -- Dan T. Hutchins Head of Adult Information Services & Micro-Systems Support Brandon Township Public Library 476 Mill Street P.O. Box 489 Ortonville, MI 48462 Phone: 248-627-6449 Fax: 248-627-9974 Web Address: http://tln.lib.mi.us/~brnd Dan's E-mail: danhutchins@core.com Dan's Cell Phone/Voice Mail: 248-225-2692 Dan's Web-Site: http://www.flash.net/~hutch668 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Mute" Subject: Re: (klf) 45 & KLF 8R Date: 28 Feb 2000 17:28:45 +1100 Dan Hutchins wrote: > 1) Has anybody noticed tat Bill Drummond's book "45" is almost exactly > the dimensions of a 7" single? Also known as a 45... ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Heiko" Subject: (klf) CD-V Date: 28 Feb 2000 08:40:59 -0000 Hi all, does anyone know if i can play the Doctorin' The Tardis CD-V on a pc? do i need some sort of driver/program? or do i need to buy a CD-I player or something? thx, Heiko # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) CD-V Date: 28 Feb 2000 00:52:05 PST > does anyone know if i can play the Doctorin' The Tardis CD-V on a pc? A CDV is really a tiny Laserdisc, nothing like an MPEG or anything. 70's technology, not 90's technology. It's a totally analogue video format, and there is no way you'll be able to run it in anything but a Laserdisc player. Furthermore since it's a PAL CDV you will need a PAL Laserdisc player. If you play it on a SEACAM or NTSC player you'll probably get the sound, but the video will be unwatchable. Sorry. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stage medewerker Subject: (klf) love trance Date: 28 Feb 2000 10:54:22 +0100 I heard something about a cdr that 'surfaced' last year with love trance. Can anyone give some info 'bout this cdr and what's more on it. And btw is it available somewhere? thankx PG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (klf) 45 Date: 28 Feb 2000 11:17:15 -0000 Can I let anyone on the list know that '45' is a far more easier read than 'Bad Wisdom'. It is very entertaining indeed and well worth getting hold of. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gregor John Aitchison" <9706129a@student.gla.ac.uk> Subject: (klf) hardknox Date: 28 Feb 2000 13:30:43 -0000 Hi, I was at the Moby concert in Glasgow at the weekend , the support ban had sampled some MU MUs for one of their songs. The band are called Hardknox, they are alright but the two female strippers they had on stage were fantastic, I think their album is out soon but I wont be buying it. PEG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Who's the Gimp? Date: 28 Feb 2000 15:05:49 -0000 > Well, unless something (ie work) dictates otherwise I'll be there on Wednesday > night - more than likely in an FTM T-shirt - so if anyone else goes, and spots > me, do say hello - or give me a kicking depending on your preferance! (Must > admit, I'd rather people did the former rather than the latter.....) Let's see, you're going to a KLF-related event and you want people to pick you out by virtue of you wearing....a FTM T-shirt! It's not as if there won't be many of those on display is it? ;-) Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) mp3's Date: 28 Feb 2000 15:43:55 +0000 (GMT) I think, whatever the reason for your failed transfers, it's an unbelievable nerve for you to whine about not being able to receive someone else's copyrighted material correctly over the net, for free. If it works, great it's a bonus, but to complain when it doesn't work is patently ridiculous ... you were getting something for nothing, how can you grumble when you don't get it? ... and I'm sure your telephone company isn't sitting there counting the beans they've made from your failed downloads. They've much better things to do. Culf. > i has become apparent to me that some people are, in my veiw abusing the mp3 > download idea by making available blatently trucated files. i have just > downloaded 'igun' and a mix of 'teardrop' by 'massive attack' and they are > worthless, the only person who is made up about them is my telephone > company. this is not the first time it has happened and previously after > spending 1 hr downloading an entire album only to find that whoever mp3'd it > failed to notice his cd was skipping like a 7 year old on the beach. it's a > waste of time and quit frustrating when you think you've found something > cool. > sorry to wigh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M-A-D" Subject: (klf) Re: Who's the Gimp? Date: 28 Feb 2000 13:22:44 -0000 Okay, you all know that I NEVER reply to things but this is a fairly gross error that needs addressing... The event formerly Geek Night is NOT my event. It was a New Foundry Ltd event that I was working on. Geek night was sort of cancelled and has been rekindled as a recruit night for the M25 spin (hence the spin logo on t2k.net). T2k.Net USED to host Gimp's Millennium Crisis Site (anyone remember the Crisis Lines?) I still own T2k and, as it has had nothing more than the 'Spin' logo there for the last year it seemed worth throwing a few words under it. I will still be working on 'Geek night' or 'Spin night' or whatevre you want to call it - as will Gimpo. BTW, if you're all so interested in conspiracy theories why haven't you all figured out the connection with Jon, Gimp and others? Not wanting to start slinging shit but, hey, don't go shooting the messenger. Anyway, as far as Jon talking about dissapointment and the like then anyone that knows Jon will also know that he doesn't like to do much promotion for fear of things going tits up - ask yourselves why the foundry is never in Time-Out. (Back me up here, Andy!!) Look forward to seeing you all on Weds and remember, sometimes things aren't a conspiracy and we've simply been very busy doing other stuff. M/A/D ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2000 5:09 PM > I'll try to add what I can to what's already been said... > > I called the New Foundry (0171 739 6900) and spoke to the bookings manager > (Jonathon Madley)... as far as they're concerned the night was booked (by > M/A/D - so it does appear to be a static event) ages ago, and they've heard > no more since... it was booked as a 'Geek Night - Geeks only' and is a > repeat of an event held last year for 'Geeks of all persausions' which was > organised through the NTK (Need To Know) mailing list. > >blah blah blah... CUT TO SAVE SPACE # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) mp3's Date: 28 Feb 2000 17:25:59 -0000 > I think, whatever the reason for your failed transfers, it's an unbelievable > nerve for you to whine about not being able to receive someone else's > copyrighted material correctly over the net, for free. If it works, great Hold on here, let's have some balance. There should be gratitude of course, but I sympathise with the original poster's original view (maybe not expressed in the right tones) that it can be annoying to spend a lot of money downloading a file to find it riddled wih skips. I always play test any MP3s I've created as it's not unusual (in fact usual) for some or all of them to be of an unacceptable quality. This is a waste of internet bandwidth, and if you're actually _trading_ for material you expect to get files that have been properly ripped and tested. Anyway, IMHO we ought not to be arguing about these issues but instead about our shared interest in the KLF and preserving their deleted material for our peer group and, hopefully, future fans. Steve (original message, note I was not the sender, just wanted to pick up on Culf's point) - > > i has become apparent to me that some people are, in my veiw abusing the mp3 > > download idea by making available blatently trucated files. i have just > > downloaded 'igun' and a mix of 'teardrop' by 'massive attack' and they are > > worthless, the only person who is made up about them is my telephone > > company. this is not the first time it has happened and previously after > > spending 1 hr downloading an entire album only to find that whoever mp3'd it > > failed to notice his cd was skipping like a 7 year old on the beach. it's a > > waste of time and quit frustrating when you think you've found something > > cool. > > sorry to wigh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magick Temple" Subject: Re: (klf) Re: Who's the Gimp? Date: 28 Feb 2000 17:19:15 -0000 > The event formerly Geek Night is NOT my event. It was a New Foundry Ltd > event that I was working on. > Geek night was sort of cancelled and has been rekindled as a recruit night > for the M25 spin (hence the spin logo on t2k.net). Awlright! Thanks a million for clearing that up! > I will still be working on 'Geek night' or 'Spin night' or whatevre you want > to call it - as will Gimpo. Then I might well still come down... willing to post any further details of what's gonna happen? > BTW, if you're all so interested in conspiracy theories why haven't you all > figured out the connection with Jon, Gimp and others? Not wanting to start > slinging shit but, hey, don't go shooting the messenger. Ummmm... not quite sure what you're saying here... I've never heard of Jon before, and I didn't intend to criticize anyone or claim there was a 'conspiracy'... just trying to make some sense of what little info I did have. > Anyway, as far as Jon talking about dissapointment and the like then anyone > that knows Jon will also know that he doesn't like to do much promotion for > fear of things going tits up - ask yourselves why the foundry is never in > Time-Out. (Back me up here, Andy!!) hehe... fair 'nuff... don't know the guy, and don't live in London, so I wouldn't know. > Look forward to seeing you all on Weds and remember, sometimes things aren't > a conspiracy and we've simply been very busy doing other stuff. Thanks for straightening things out... might well see ya there. Mag xxxxx DISCORDIAN PROMOTIONS http://www.discordian.co.uk ICQ - 22014792 Grow More Weed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) The hunt Date: 28 Feb 2000 17:52:17 -0000 > > ...but you are right - there is no value in an MP3. it is the hunt > > that makes it all so interesting, and makes you appreciate the tracks > > and their rarety when you finally track them down. > > I agree... but I disagree too. The hunt is fun... but I hate finding > something rare only to find it's crap, too. MP3s allow you to audition > the music and find out what's really worth hunting... (I use a generic "you" here, as I really tend to agree with the guy whose followup I'm responding to) I've been thinking about this more, after posting that maybe we ought to swap CDRs amongst ourselves and kick out the money element from KLF trading. Yes, I greatly enjoy finding original KLF Communications items. Whenever I've bagged items like the Echo & The Bunnymen mix of LTTT, 12"s in the original JAMs sleeves, the Stadium House video or, best of all, original KLF Comms CDs, it's a great thrill to get the things home and inspect and play them. But that is called *collecting*. Having MP3 copies of this material will only reduce my urge to collect, not extinguish it. I might not bother buying vinyl in the future, as I no longer have any decks, and I will be less inclined to pay extorniate prices for CDs (indeed, finding KLF items at high prices is no great problem anyway, just go to Notting Hill Gte or look in Record Collector, I get a bigger thrill finding KLF stuff in out-of-the-way bargain bins and secondhand stores). Both of these outcomes result from already having the music so having less need to own the physical items. In this digital age, materialism is (thankfully) becoming less important anyway. If people trade MP3s or give them away via FTP they are not removing your right to enjoy collecting original items. It may even make them cheaper. It's not totally removing the interest of the people who have MP3s in collecting original items either, not that collecting is any great thing or for everyone. If you want to collect, fine go ahead. Also, MP3s at 128k are not totally CD standard, so I personally still like to get CD copies of the best tracks. This _stimulates_ interest in finding the music, as the original follow-up guy said. For me, the more important point is why would you want to deny people who don't have access to collector's stores or lots of money access to this *music*? In particular, why deny access to the music which was never officially released, or only released on promo or in such small quantities as to make it almost impossible to find? In recent nights, as I've been thinking about this, I've listened to wonderful material like the original 1989 White Room tape, the Lost Sounds Of Mu, and Waiting For The Rites Of Mu. Everybody with an interest in dance and ambient music who isn't just interested in current material ought to have the chance to hear these marvellous records. Finally, let me clarify that I do not advocate the _piracy_ of items which are still in print and from which the artists can reasonably expect a royalty, such as Bill's album on Creation. The KLF had a loose attitude to copyright - hence one interpretation of the name KLF - and chose to delete their back catalogue. The _free_ trading of the deleted material (bootlegging as opposed to piracy) if done discretely shouldn't be a problem, IMHO. Steve P.S. Since there was no response to my CDR tree suggestion, anyone who wants to swap copies of deleted KLF items should mail me privately. My writer is out of service but I have a couple of items I copied before it broke down. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) mp3's Date: 28 Feb 2000 18:28:45 -0000 > Sure it can be annoying, but to express that annoyance on a public list I agree with that, which is why I asked for us to talk specifically about the KLF. The guy's original message was probably off-topic (I see he sent it to the Orb list too, so might even be a troll). But why come back with a flame against _me_? My post was perfectly fair and reasonable. > about something you're getting gratis for nowt free zippo cost was a The point _was_ badly made I thought, but the annoyance factor is there. And it's not free if it's cost you two quid to download. (I use CDR so quite frankly don't give a f*ck, but I don't like being talked down to like an idiot) > patently stupid thing to do. And to repeat it wasn't me that said it!! Alright?! > The argument "waste of Internet bandwidth" has no meaning in the real > world. "Internet bandwidth" sisn't a tangible quantity that can be > conserved or saved, or indeed wasted. No, it is an intangible conceptual term that has validity in the real world. In this context, "internet bandwidth" means capacity on my ISP's transatlantic lines, my phone bill (not that this is an issue for me, as I very rarely download MP3s, and if I do they tend to be official releases of rare material, such as from bobdylan.com -- realaudio in that instance, but anyway), the bandwidth used by the remote server. And just because bandwith is intangible it does not mean it cannot be measured (or estimated at, or referred to as a concept...). Suggesting that internet bandwidth cannot be wasted simply because it cannot, you say, be measured is horrendous. Transferring multi-megabyte corrupt files _is_ a waste of bandwidth, whether or not it is measurable and whether or not it is significant (and on the latter point - significance - you may have got me, but the original point wasn't about this anyway, it was about telephone bills). > [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] Clever! Better take that up with Microsoft. I'm set to "plain text" already, although am more than happy to take advice (other than "bin Outlook Express") on how to really send plain ASCII text! ;-) Steve (man if I knew I needed a degree in English to survive on the KLF mailing list I might have stayed with the digest version) > > > I think, whatever the reason for your failed transfers, it's an > > unbelievable > > > nerve for you to whine about not being able to receive someone else's > > > copyrighted material correctly over the net, for free. If it works, great > > > > Hold on here, let's have some balance. There should be gratitude of course, > > but I sympathise with the original poster's original view (maybe not > > expressed in the right tones) that it can be annoying to spend a lot of > > money downloading a file to find it riddled wih skips. I always play test > > any MP3s I've created as it's not unusual (in fact usual) for some or all of > > them to be of an unacceptable quality. This is a waste of internet > > bandwidth, and if you're actually _trading_ for material you expect to get > > files that have been properly ripped and tested. > > > > Anyway, IMHO we ought not to be arguing about these issues but instead about > > our shared interest in the KLF and preserving their deleted material for our > > peer group and, hopefully, future fans. > > > > Steve Now what was so unreasonable or imflammatary about that? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremiah Rickert Subject: (klf) 1-2-1 Date: 28 Feb 2000 13:37:54 -0800 (PST) I just got the CDsingle of 1-2-1 and in re: the video, is Jimi in one of those cellphones? Also, was the skinny blonde with the exposed midriff there so everyone would think this was another teeny-bopper-tart clone group and thus sell more records? jr Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) 45 & KLF 8R Date: 28 Feb 2000 23:14:52 -0000 Wouldn't claim in any way to be a "master member", and the text from that release's DJ reaction report sheet probably won't help at all. But here goes anyway: LAST TRAIN TO TRANCENTRAL - THE K.L.F. - KLF 008R. From the forthcoming KLF Motion Picture THE WHITE ROOM . Both the A and the B are radical remixes of the original which has yet to see the light of day. The A side is so literal it may be totally unlistenable to anybody who is neither a freight train enthusiast or flat on their backs and out of their heads. You have been warned. The B side is the KLF back in their Pure Trance, crashing the millenium, leaving it's (sic) precessors 'What Time Is Love' and '3A.M. Eternal' in the debris of the late eighties. Dance Music for the more foolhardy D.J. The one willing to risk watching his/her floor clear at the sound of lost sheep bleating in the wilderness. No reaction required. Hope this helps 8-) Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Re: Who's the Gimp? Date: 28 Feb 2000 17:30:57 -0000 > BTW, if you're all so interested in conspiracy theories why haven't you all > figured out the connection with Jon, Gimp and others? Not wanting to start > slinging shit but, hey, don't go shooting the messenger. Maybe we're less interested in conspiracy theories than you think. (And, why all the KLF meta tags if your projects don't directly involve Bill & Jimmy?!) And who shot the messenger?! That's what you're doing, the guy was only reporting what he had been told in good faith. Folks need to have an idea what to expect from an event before travelling hundreds of miles. Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: " \"Christopher.D.Gilmour\"" Subject: Re: (klf) mp3's Date: 28 Feb 2000 18:51:28 +0000 (GMT) > I think, whatever the reason for your failed transfers, it's an unbelievable > nerve for you to whine about not being able to receive someone else's > copyrighted material correctly over the net, for free. The point of having MP3s on the net is not some half arsed mid eighties pirating scam, but about making music easy to get hold of and easy to enjoy. By putting badly done MP3s on line these people are screwing the ideology. rgds CHr # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: " \"Christopher.D.Gilmour\"" Subject: (klf) re: (KLF) 45 Date: 28 Feb 2000 18:35:14 +0000 (GMT) Arse that 45 is easier to read that Bad Wisdom. 45 is just a collection of essays and short stories, many of which have been printed before any all rabit list members will have read them. The manner and style of prose is patronising, and he repeats himself frequently, explining who people are many times over. Some of the stories are lame and feeble, worthless almost. It hardly gives any insight into the amn himself. The only good bit is trying to work out if he's actually on this list and is writing stuff in response to specific discussions we've had and even so he doesn't go far enough. Bad Wisdom on the otherhand gave a unique insight into his psyche and was funny to boot. rgds CH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Fox Subject: (klf) FW: link Date: 28 Feb 2000 20:12:19 +0000 Another good 45 review from The Independent ------------------ More revolutions every minute with the KLF >From trashy chart hits to the immolation of a cool million, this pop prankster brought magic to the music biz By Charles Shaar Murray 26 February 2000 45, by Bill Drummond (Little, Brown, =A312.99, 361pp) Pop music," writes Bill Drummond, "has become like a cancer that has spread through my whole body and is now affecting my brain." Having been responsible for some seriously bizarre interventions into the pop culture arena during the last 15 years, no one can accuse him of not fighting back against the disease. Similarly, he would be acquitted on all charges of not having led a reasonably interesting life. Bill Drummond is a Scotsman, born in South Africa. His first words were in Xhosa, Nelson Mandela's native tongue. He trained as a fine artist in Nottingham, relocated to Liverpool and constructed stage sets for Ken Campbell's adaptation of Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson's Illuminatus! before getting involved in the Merseysid= e punk scene =AD first as a member of the allegedly great lost combo Big In Japan and then as manager of 1980s post-punksters Echo And The Bunnymen and The Teardrop Explodes. However, his management techniques were decidedly unorthodox. Identifying the Bunnymen with Iceland and Teardrops with New Guinea, and realising that they were connected by a ley-line that passed through Liverpool, Drummond concocted the wizard wheeze of attempting to persuade the bands to play simultaneous concerts in those locations while he stood over a manhole cove= r in Matthews Street. The gloss soon wore off management: following the Liverpool arrival of a young, LSD-laden Courtney Love, "Julian Cope had discovered drugs. His ego was going nova. I should have shot him. Instead I was pretending to manage his band." Dumping management, Drummond attempted to audition as singer for Killing Joke, cut a solo album, and then made his mark on the early history of the rave scene by joining forces with fellow troublemaker Jimmy Cauty to form the Kopyright Liberation Front. As sampler-delic guerrillas, they scored several hits under several names (KLF, The Timelords and the Justified Ancients of MuMu, the latter appelation derived from Illuminatus!). Then they realised, much to their horror, that they'd made rather a lot of money= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Bennett Subject: Re: (klf) How long has the list been going/is there an Date: 28 Feb 2000 23:28:32 -0800 At 09:36 PM 2/28/00 -0700, Jeremiah Rickert wrote: > > At some point (~92 probably) I had to stop doing it, and and that was when > > Pete Ashdown offered Lazlo (both list members) the chance to continue > it as a > > proper discussion list on xmission.com, which is what happened. I think > >I believe that the list was hosted by a different domain (not xmission) >originally, though wasn't it? @javelin.sim.es.com, I do believe. After a year or so, maybe longer, Pete started xmission.com and took the lists there. Andrew (crusty lurker who remember's Culf's digests) -- Andrew Bennett np: The Positiva Ambient Collection # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M-A-D" Subject: Re: (klf) Re: Who's the Gimp? Date: 29 Feb 2000 09:55:35 -0000 Steve, Answer is in fact very simple... > And who shot the messenger?! That's what you're doing, the guy was only > reporting what he had been told in good faith. Folks need to have an idea > what to expect from an event before travelling hundreds of miles. We don't want to think that anyone is going to travel hundreds of miles... Why would they? It's basically a recruitment night for those wanting to come along to the M25 Spin at the end of March. We'll show a load of Gimpo films, which MAY include K Foundation stuff (probably the Burning maybe more) and MAY even include one of AAA's unreleased DATs (if we can find it) but it's still not worth travelling hundreds of miles for... That is unless your nuts enough (like Gimpo) to drive around the M25 for 25 hours in which case you those few hundred miles sounds like a walk around the block! As for the META tags, they are still a legacy from the Millennium Crisis Site/Lines/Whatever - I simply never got around to taking them out. In fact there's a damn load of stuff sitting on that site that I never even bothered to delete - just changed a couple of things on the index page and forgot about the METAs, can't be bothered to sort it until I'm back in the html again for something else. So, to surmise, if you think you're going to want to drive around the M25 on the Spin then it wouldn't be a bad idea to turn up - if you live in or near London and have nothing to do then it wouldn't be a bad idea to turn up but if you aren't then is it really worth travelling a long way to see some films and hear some music? I'll let you decide (I think that is probably what Jon was trying to say too). Ta, M/A/D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) re: (KLF) 45 Date: 29 Feb 2000 12:09:55 +0000 (GMT) "45" is a great read, and gives a fascinating insight into Bill himself. The different stories, some of which have been seen before in other places, have different styles between them. The book isn't meant to be a cohesive whole, it is literally a collection of things written at different times across (approximately) a year, and as such there is some repetition. Possibly the most mundane story, "My Modern Life", where he recounts his routine for a typical day, and mentions all the signs he passes, is the most interesting piece of all. Culf. On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, "Christopher.D.Gilmour" wrote: > Arse that 45 is easier to read that Bad Wisdom. 45 is just a collection of > essays and short stories, many of which have been printed before any all > rabit list members will have read them. The manner and style of prose is > patronising, and he repeats himself frequently, explining who people are > many times over. Some of the stories are lame and feeble, worthless > almost. It hardly gives any insight into the amn himself. The only good > bit is trying to work out if he's actually on this list and is writing > stuff in response to specific discussions we've had and even so he doesn't > go far enough. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael_Kennedy@derwentside.ac.uk (Michael Kennedy) Subject: (klf) made@3am cd Date: 29 Feb 2000 12:15:11 +0000 i seem to have missed something so can anyone tell me what is this made@3am cd people are talking about lately? is it a new bootleg or something? thanks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) re: (KLF) 45 Date: 29 Feb 2000 07:24:26 EST > On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, "Christopher.D.Gilmour" wrote: > > Arse that 45 is easier to read that Bad Wisdom. I think what the original poster was commenting on was Bad Wisdom could sometimes be a chore to get through, not that it was a lesser book. While Bill's section in BW were good, I found I was forcing myself though Zed's fantasies. It was Zed's section, IMHO, which brought down BW. I eventually skipped his sections all together, apart from skimming for any juxta positioning with Bill's sections. In a message dated 2/29/00 4:11:35 AM Pacific Standard Time, culf@nessie.mcc.ac.uk writes: > The book isn't meant to > be a cohesive whole, it is literally a collection of things written at > different times across (approximately) a year, and as such there is some > repetition. Agreed. I just got my copy in the mail yesterday, and while it'll be a bit before I can get to it, I did take a few minutes to flip through it. Although it's not really made clear anywhere, just looking at it from a fan's point of view it's is clearly a collection of essays. I can understand, however, the non-fan expecting a biography could get confused. Perhaps some better editing might have been needed to prevent the repetition.... -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuey & Michelle Subject: Re: (klf) disillusionment Date: 01 Mar 2000 02:02:41 +1300 Simon Coward wrote: > > Pete Robinson. > > Good guy. > > I'll second that. When I bought his "Justified And Ancient History" book(let) I wrote to him with all sorts of additional questions > and received a long and friendly reply. I'll third that. I did similar, and got a tape of rare stuff from him too. Ah the old days of trading cassettes, before mp3. And on the subject of collecting, some of us bought all the records at the time and don't need to look around fairs and shops to collect them, ;-) big shout out to the old school! -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Did you know Stuey is the webmaster of the NZ Green Party? http://www.greens.org.nz/ Stuey's groovy website is direly in need of updating: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Barker Subject: (klf) ebay Date: 29 Feb 2000 13:56:31 +0000 Hi, Just noticed the following on ebay KLF - Collection PAL Video *MEGA RARE* Currently =A3205 I know there are unreliable sources of videos, but this seems mad. Slight imbalance of the money:sense ratio perhaps? Chris ---- The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is = intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient = you must not copy, distribute, or take any action or reliance on it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender. Any unauthorised disclosure of the information contained in this e-mail is strictly prohibited. ---- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) mp3's Date: 29 Feb 2000 14:24:25 -0000 > Gee, thanks for sending my private reply to the public mailing > list. I'm sorry that was a mistake. The (klf) header was still in place and there was no warning about the privacy of the mail, I mistook it for a list item. I would have kept it private if I had realised, not only because of netiquette (and common courtesy) but because disagreements like that are best kept off public forums anyway. Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Robinson Subject: Re: (klf) 47 coming soon Date: 29 Feb 2000 15:12:53 +0000 Positive Void wrote: > > 29/04/00 will be a site for sore eyes I presume you mean www.penkiln-burn.com ? - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) 47 coming soon Date: 29 Feb 2000 10:59:14 EST > > 29/04/00 will be a site for sore eyes > > I presume you mean www.penkiln-burn.com ? Ah! Nice job. PB, incidentally, published 45 and Annual Report and From the Shores of Lake Placid... have they done anything else or are they strictly publishing Drummond's works? hmmm... PB... hey waittaminnit... -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Poirier" Subject: Re: (klf) 47 coming soon Date: 29 Feb 2000 16:07:34 -0000 Given that April 29th is BD's birthday I would say it has something to do with... something, anyhow ;) Dave. > > I presume you mean www.penkiln-burn.com ? > > PB, incidentally, published 45 and Annual Report and From the Shores of Lake > Placid... have they done anything else or are they strictly publishing > Drummond's works? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Barker Subject: RE: (klf) 47 coming soon Date: 29 Feb 2000 16:08:59 +0000 Meta tags give the game away again... Chris > Given that April 29th is BD's birthday I would say it has something to do > with... something, anyhow ;) > > Dave. > > > > I presume you mean www.penkiln-burn.com ? > > > > PB, incidentally, published 45 and Annual Report and From the Shores of > Lake > > Placid... have they done anything else or are they strictly publishing > > Drummond's works? > > > > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy, distribute, or take any action or reliance on it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender. Any unauthorised disclosure of the information contained in this e-mail is strictly prohibited. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magick Temple" Subject: Re: (klf) Re: Who's the Gimp? Date: 29 Feb 2000 15:27:03 -0000 > > And who shot the messenger?! That's what you're doing, the guy was only > > reporting what he had been told in good faith. Folks need to have an idea > > what to expect from an event before travelling hundreds of miles. Thanks for you support Steve, but no harm done... I'm used to people being a bit touchy on lists. > We don't want to think that anyone is going to travel hundreds of miles... > Why would they? It's basically a recruitment night for those wanting to come > along to the M25 Spin at the end of March. Well now that that's clear, there's no problem or risk of that (unless of course, anyone else went the same route of investigation as me, but didn't find this list). > We'll show a load of Gimpo films, > which MAY include K Foundation stuff (probably the Burning maybe more) and > MAY even include one of AAA's unreleased DATs (if we can find it) but it's > still not worth travelling hundreds of miles for... That is unless your nuts > enough (like Gimpo) to drive around the M25 for 25 hours in which case you > those few hundred miles sounds like a walk around the block! Unfortunately, that puts us firmly in the 'nuts' catagory ;-) ... 'cause if that's the deal we're still coming! > As for the META tags, they are still a legacy from the Millennium Crisis > Site/Lines/Whatever - I simply never got around to taking them out. Well, that's why it was misleading then... along with the link from the fnord.demon site (which I'd guess is also out of date). But no harm done... we're gonna make a whole day of it, and rounding off with some Gimpo films and a roomful of the type of people who want to drive round the M25 for 25 hours sounds like a fine evening. See you there... Mag xxxxx DISCORDIAN PROMOTIONS http://www.discordian.co.uk ICQ - 22014792 Grow More Weed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Re: Who's the Gimp? Date: 29 Feb 2000 18:23:01 -0000 > > > And who shot the messenger?! That's what you're doing, the guy was only > > > reporting what he had been told in good faith. Folks need to have an > idea > > > what to expect from an event before travelling hundreds of miles. > > Thanks for you support Steve, but no harm done... I'm used to people being a > bit touchy on lists. Sorry, I was probably the touchy one. And it's all turned out nicely, as we now have some info on the event that makes it sound like quite a good shindig! :) If the AAA tapes turn up, for instance, that would be something of a coup in itself... Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) 47 coming soon Date: 29 Feb 2000 22:27:46 -0000 > > PB, incidentally, published 45 and Annual Report and From the Shores of > Lake > > Placid... have they done anything else or are they strictly publishing > > Drummond's works? I must have missed the publication of these, but see they're still available (I have Bad Wisdom, The Manual, and Disco 2000). What are they about and are they worth buying? I very much enjoyed Bill's ramblings in Bad Wisdom... Also, has anyone found 45 in the UK at a good discount? The best I've found so far is 10.39 GBP online (albeit including postage, so not a bad deal). Not been into the bookshops yet. Steve P.S. www.penkiln-burn.com - Isn't Penkiln Burn mentioned on 'The Man' maybe in 'I Believe In Rock & Roll'? "Penkiln Burn and Penningham School"??? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuey & Michelle Subject: Re: (klf) LUTT Date: 01 Mar 2000 12:18:18 +1300 IMHO, The LUTT (As listened to in that mp3 url that was posted a week ago)=20 is a fan made compilation of bits of other mixes, not a real track. I'm waiting to hear from the original source of the mp3 too, no-one has posted on the list confirming a source yet. But then again, not being a hard core collector I'm not in the loop=20 and don't know all about secret studio tapes and stuff. yours provocatively, Stuey Attila Bujt=E1s wrote: > Who made the LUTT? Is it one of those trials in the studio (10-12 track= s by > Thorpe or Cauty ...maybe Cressida) what was made for inhouse use not fo= r the > public? The stolen ones? Or is it just a legend? > Who knows something about it or about the studio staff? > What is the truth? -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Did you know Stuey is the webmaster of the NZ Green Party? http://www.greens.org.nz/ Stuey's groovy website is direly in need of updating: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) 47 coming soon Date: 29 Feb 2000 19:16:40 EST > I must have missed the publication of these, but see they're still available > (I have Bad Wisdom, The Manual, and Disco 2000). What are they about and are > they worth buying? I very much enjoyed Bill's ramblings in Bad Wisdom... Lake Placid is in 45. Not sure if Annual Report is there but under a different name... -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: " \"Christopher.D.Gilmour\"" Subject: Re: (klf) re: (KLF) 45 Date: 29 Feb 2000 13:05:35 +0000 (GMT) NIk, one of the elder list members, advised me not to beleive any of the stuff in 45, as it was all lies. What's what Drummond claims about most of the stuff he writes and is written about him. My thang is this. How much of it is made up and how much of it is real and how much of it is in between. Does that tunnel really exist? Did he really head up the congo. Was he really born in Butterworth CP or was that really his name. And how can someone born in south Africa and spent his life from age 17 onwards in England claim to be Scottish? Ooh, and has anyone noticed that he turns into Victor Meldrew in many of the stories? rgds CHri # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: RE: (klf) ebay Date: 29 Feb 2000 15:46:16 +0100 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >Hi, > >Just noticed the following on ebay > >KLF - Collection PAL Video *MEGA RARE* > >Currently =A3205 > >I know there are unreliable sources of videos, but this seems mad. >Slight imbalance of the money:sense ratio perhaps? yeah, i saw that too.... Pretty dumb if you ask me...this thing was home made (i know cause i have it), and even though it does contain a lot of rare stuff, a simple KLF mail to the mailing list to ask for a copy would have had better (and cheaper) results. If the guy bidding on it for =A3205 is on this list, then PLEASE contact me. Ill make you a copy for MUCH less. Cheers Xav -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.5.3 Comment: Xav's iQA/AwUBOLvNVq6baoXJ3KzBEQKAdwCfbvGD2ND4ib/0pbWVyqSHTSex5d0AoKrh 1Mj7LougsQSR3XjNi4yEA/Yc =3DKvno -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf