From: Stuey and Michelle Subject: Re: (klf) KLF Lyrics. Date: 02 Apr 2001 00:40:04 +1200 someone wrote: > Lost Continent -- Atlantis. or maybe the Lost Continent is Lemuria, also known as Mu, which is the Pacific Ocean version of Atlantis. > > 5 - What was that festival in Liverpool that The KLF were at where they " the Liverpool Comedy Festival - there is lots about this in a 1991 iD magazine article about the Rites of Mu, which unfortunately I never got a copy of, so it is not online. Maybe the location is talked about in there. aha, just found an NME news article that says "a free concert on St George's Plateau". so there you go. cheers -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Stuey is webmaster of the New Zealand Green Party: http://www.greens.org.nz/ And webmaster of his own personal website too: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ChillOut Subject: (klf) 4 items for sale on ebay Date: 01 Apr 2001 13:54:06 -0500 for those who may be interested i have listed 4 items for sale on ebay: KLF What Time Is Love [Jap - mini cd SEALED!] http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1420832070 KLF Justified & Ancient [Jap mini cd V.Rare] http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1420836056 KLF FUCK THE MILLENNIUM [Jap Promo cd + book] http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1420841594 KLF The White Room [Jap cd STILL SEALED!] http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1420846266 hammer falls thursday thanx tim : ) + ( . ALL YOUR BACK CATALOGUE ARE BELONG TO US . ) + ( : # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wouter" Subject: (klf) i'm back Date: 02 Apr 2001 01:58:17 +0200 Hi! First let me introduce me: I am Wouter van der Velde and living in Holland. I'm doing a study in Microelectronics in The Hague which I hope to finish next june. My hobbies are playing with my computer and driving my Mini. I've been absent for the last 2 years but I resubscribed to the KLF list as you can see. Probably nobody will remember me, but I am really curious what happened! Anyone got a URL where I can find the last devellopments of our Kings? Wouter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) LAST TRAIN Date: 02 Apr 2001 04:22:59 EDT Does anyone have a copy of KLF008R for sale? Will give a good price, email me directly; milestighe@aol.com. Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: neil sampson Subject: (klf) webring Date: 02 Apr 2001 11:30:45 +0000 Hi there people, just a completely off topic pondering, does anyone know how to set up a web-ring for sites of a similar topic, like we've got for the KLF ? I have recently won (big smile) hospital radio website of the year (you've gotta start somewhere I guess) and was wondering about linking all the other interested hospital radio websites together. any help gratefully appreciated laters neil MonkeyMania in FullFX http://www.themonkeymen.co.uk ___________________________________________ It's amazing what happens when you breathe. www.breathe.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: (klf) Orb meet-up details (LONDON) Date: 02 Apr 2001 16:15:41 +0100 (BST) just in case anyone else wants to meet up before tomorrow night's Orb gig at the London Astoria, details are below... ...the doors at the Astoria don't open until 9pm, so we'll have plenty of time beforehand. drop me a line if you wanna come along - there's 6-8 of use confirmed so far... cheers, --- Smiley MEET-UP DETAILS: 'ello chaps. i've plumped for a meet-up at The Social (just off Oxford Street, and 5 mins from the Astoria) at 6pm on tuesday. if it's crap, there are plenty of other pubs in that area, so we'll be happy enough. you can get a map / directions here: http://www.thesocial.com/find-us.html if anyone wants to send any links to photos of themselves / descriptions, so we can identify each other, please do! i'll let everyone have my mobile numbers on monday, just in case anyone gets lost / is late / kidnapped by aliens on the way... ...have a good weekend. cheers, --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) wanted... Date: 03 Apr 2001 17:03:43 EDT Can anyone help me, does anyone have a copy of either of these records up for sale; white label of KLF005X ? white label of KLF004Y ? please let me know if you do, My email; milestighe@aol.com Thanks, Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "happy consumer!" Subject: (klf) M25 OT Date: 03 Apr 2001 14:23:46 -0700 please excuse me, im trying to reach 2 list members personally... Fnord and Illuminatus, please contact me off list. -happyconsumer Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: (klf) last-ditch effort Date: 04 Apr 2001 16:51:59 -0400 (EDT) okay, my collection is nearly complete. all i am missing is: 3am aug 90 demo the 18-minute chill out megamix the benio LTTT mixes and obviously the rumoured but mostly unheard stuff, like: the "original" madrugada eterna club mix e-train to trancentral love trance turn up the strobe is anyone willing to do a scratch-my-back-i'll-scratch-yours? micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) last-ditch effort Date: 04 Apr 2001 15:55:55 -0500 One of the list-members was selling an original Madrugada Eterna Club mix recently. I think it sold for $300 or $400. I know there is at least one other on this list who has one, so it does exist. "and obviously the rumoured but mostly unheard stuff, like: the "original" madrugada eterna club mix..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Douglas Miller" Subject: (klf) Space LP1 --- how to authenticate Date: 05 Apr 2001 22:37:46 +1000 Hi, I'm a KLF collector who has just signed-up to the list (I've been skulking in the digest archives for a while). I understand that the recent mini-flood of Space LP1 on the market has been pretty much attributed to a new bootleg issue (rather than, say, a rediscovered carton of originals ... ha! I wish ...). Has anyone verified this via direct comparison against a certified original? If so, what are the differences? (so prospective buyers like myself can identify an original). -- Douglas Miller PO Box 274 Canterbury Vic 3126 AUSTRALIA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Space LP1 --- how to authenticate Date: 05 Apr 2001 20:43:14 EDT > I understand that the recent mini-flood of Space LP1 on the market has been > pretty much attributed to a new bootleg issue (rather than, say, a > rediscovered carton of originals ... ha! I wish ...). > > Has anyone verified this via direct comparison against a certified original? > If so, what are the differences? (so prospective buyers like myself can > identify an original). I don't recall specifics, but I think all the LP boots had some sort of typo on the labels, whereas, of course, the originals don't. The boot CD of Space, I can tell you, is missing the (C) KLF COMMUNICATIONS from the back. Perhaps this is missing from the label of the LP? -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nigel Bailey" Subject: Re: (klf) Space LP1 --- how to authenticate Date: 06 Apr 2001 12:22:59 +0100 On the original Space LP1 there is a Apollo launch style countdown followed by lift off and appropriate noises - on the bootleg it goes straight into the sound of lift off (hope that makes sense). Also the colours on the artwork are not as vivid on the bootleg. Mr Bailey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: (klf) KLF - Last Train LP - released 5/4/01 Date: 06 Apr 2001 09:05:14 EDT I just did a search at HMV.co.uk as I usually do for KLF to see if they have any new stuff in (very rare). Today though I found a new item under artist KLF called Last Train, it's an LP with catalogue number JAMSLP010, I click through to it to see what it is (if it's just LTTT I've got it already) but HMV haven't supplied a track listing or anything. Is this a new release by B&J or is it just a 12" bootleg of LTTT? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Space LP1 --- how to authenticate Date: 07 Apr 2001 08:06:08 EDT In a message dated 05/04/01 13:40:06 GMT Daylight Time, dgm@altavista.net writes: << understand that the recent mini-flood of Space LP1 on the market has been pretty much attributed to a new bootleg issue (rather than, say, a rediscovered carton of originals ... ha! I wish ...). >> What min-flood of Space LP1? Is it available in the UK? and if so where?????? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (klf) KLF - Last Train LP - released 5/4/01 Date: 07 Apr 2001 13:21:31 +0100 Well, this is listed at Rough Trade: klf last train to transcentral 12 5.5 very limited reissue of the 80's classic So, probably another bootleg... l8rs, Nick ;-) > -----Original Message----- > > I just did a search at HMV.co.uk as I usually do for KLF to see > if they have > any new stuff in (very rare). Today though I found a new item > under artist > KLF called Last Train, it's an LP with catalogue number > JAMSLP010, I click > through to it to see what it is (if it's just LTTT I've got it > already) but > HMV haven't supplied a track listing or anything. Is this a new > release by > B&J or is it just a 12" bootleg of LTTT? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Lee" Subject: (klf) The illuminati are back! Date: 07 Apr 2001 13:24:31 +0100 Just watched the Tomb Raider movie trailer and guess who the bad guys are? Yep that's right, those "ancient & justified" Illuminati are back and about to cause havoc with some "time machine clock thing" Made me laugh - and lots of nice "eye in pyramid" motifs ( including a fade from said eye to the Paramount logo -ha ha) See ya Andy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Space LP1 --- how to authenticate Date: 07 Apr 2001 15:10:22 EDT > << understand that the recent mini-flood of Space LP1 on the market has > been > pretty much attributed to a new bootleg issue (rather than, say, a > rediscovered carton of originals ... ha! I wish ...). > >> > > What min-flood of Space LP1? Is it available in the UK? and if so > where?????? Space, Chill Out, and 1987 surfaced as LP boots early last year. Space also came out on CD after a while. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) The illuminati are back! Date: 08 Apr 2001 07:09:45 EDT In a message dated 07/04/01 13:26:32 GMT Daylight Time, andylee@callnetuk.com writes: << Yep that's right, those "ancient & justified" Illuminati are back and about to cause havoc with some "time machine clock thing" >> Maybe this is B&J's Pyramid idea getting back on track. Instead of building a proper pyramid at loch ness they might have built a Pyramid for Tomb Raider movie. Could the movie have been filmed at Loch Ness....the TR2 extra levels disk features a castle in Loch Ness (including Nessie) - I wonder if Eidos have anything to do with B&J and the K The Millennium plan. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) JOHN PEEL Date: 08 Apr 2001 07:31:20 EDT I was listening to the 'god' that is John Peel on radio one, one evening last week. And he played a single by 'XXS', he said he thought it was the KLF, as he was mailed 7, 7" singles of an 11 single set, with a simple note saying 'await further instructions'.... Could it be? does anyone know any more? Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) The illuminati are back! Date: 08 Apr 2001 08:05:05 EDT > Maybe this is B&J's Pyramid idea getting back on track. Instead of building > a proper pyramid at loch ness they might have built a Pyramid for Tomb Raider > movie. Could the movie have been filmed at Loch Ness....the TR2 extra levels > disk features a castle in Loch Ness (including Nessie) - I wonder if Eidos > have anything to do with B&J and the K The Millennium plan. um... no. Read the Illuminatus Trilogy. Just because it uses The Five as the bad guys doesn't mean B/J have anything to do with it. -paul Currently in rotation: various www.sayhername.com -- Too Much Joy Official Website Tell your friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) The illuminati are back! Date: 08 Apr 2001 13:37:01 +0100 (BST) On Sun 08 Apr, TheMgnt@aol.com wrote: > > > Maybe this is B&J's Pyramid idea getting back on track. Instead of > > building a proper pyramid at loch ness they might have built a > > Pyramid for Tomb Raider movie. Could the movie have been filmed > > at Loch Ness....the TR2 extra levels disk features a castle in > > Loch Ness (including Nessie) - I wonder if Eidos have anything to > > do with B&J and the K The Millennium plan. > > um... no. Read the Illuminatus Trilogy. Just because it uses The > Five as the bad guys doesn't mean B/J have anything to do with it. I thought he was joking. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) The illuminati are back! Date: 08 Apr 2001 10:09:29 EDT In a message dated 08/04/01 13:41:46 GMT Daylight Time, klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk writes: << I thought he was joking. >> I was LOL! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek Knight" Subject: RE: (klf) Space LP1 --- how to authenticate Date: 08 Apr 2001 19:33:07 +0100 > > What min-flood of Space LP1? Is it available in the UK? and if so > > where?????? > > Space, Chill Out, and 1987 surfaced as LP boots early last year. > Space also came out on CD after a while. There are more copies of 1987, Chill Out and Spaced on vinyl in the Oxford Street HMV than you can shake a stick at. I also saw copies of Space in Tower Records, Piccadilly. I tried to find out more info about them, but the assistants were reliably clueless. I picked up Space for a tenner, just cos I fancied it. They're all clearly bootleg(?) repressings, but fairly good quality. Del Derek Knight djnite@bigfoot.com http://www.djnite.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek Knight" Subject: RE: (klf) benio Date: 08 Apr 2001 19:35:03 +0100 > >i'd always assumed so, because at the start of BurnTheBastards Bill says > >"here we are, live on stage, at the Benio" > > The Deep Heat 10 inlay says that it is mixed by the KLF > exclusively for Deep Heat (as far as someone told me... who > wanted to do a scan for me. Remember ?) Or at least > thatīs what Iīve been told. Yep, I've seen an original copy of the Deep Heat 10 record, and that's what it says. I could do a scan if anyone's really desperate. Not terribly exciting! Del Derek Knight djnite@bigfoot.com http://www.djnite.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Lee" Subject: Re: (klf) Space LP1 --- how to authenticate Date: 08 Apr 2001 22:49:01 +0100 Back in the early 90's Bill & Jim used to repress their own back catalogue at will . When the Stadium House franchise was going well they re-pressed WTIL & 3AM in their own respective green & pink sleeves. I have only white labels and repressed copies so I can't genuinely authenticate the differences. The major thing that stuck out in my mind at the time is how the colours on the new covers were much more vivid. At the time Appearing did a re-service on the "new pressing" old 12"s to the major radio stations. That's how I know what I know and how I got mine! See ya Andy Maybe Sally Fellowes could be behind all this! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: (klf) Curious form of bootlegging Date: 09 Apr 2001 07:18:38 +0200 Hi, last saturday i went into a lokal tiny second-hand-recordstore in a town near me. I just browsed through the records as i found about 10 records that looked like KLF-records: 5 or 6 looked on first sight like 004T or 005R, but their labels and sleeves looked like a bad try to copy them; on two another records in bad copied generic KLF-sleeves was a label that said: "3 AM Eternal Breakbeat Mix/Original Mix".....never seen before.... But the best thing came as i wanted to listen to them: I nearly died with laughter as some contained a track from Members of Mayday, others playing songs from Metallica. The funniest thing were the matrix numbers on the records, or do you know "KLF0123456789" or a matrixnumber "WHIGGELDYPIGGELDY" ??? I talked to the shop assistant who cant say from where the records are as they get their records from different sources and they don't listen before on them..... Who stands behind these copies? The illuminati or Bon Jovi??? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wouter" Subject: (klf) Pyramid Blaster in EPS Date: 09 Apr 2001 11:05:42 +0200 Hi, has anyone got a pyramid blaster in EPS-format? I woud like to make stickers to mount them on the doors of my Mini. Greetings Wouter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Pyramid Blaster in EPS Date: 09 Apr 2001 08:12:58 EDT I've got the pyramid blaster in EPS format, it's 962kb in size. If you want me to I'll e-mail it you. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (klf) KLF - Last Train LP - released 5/4/01 Date: 09 Apr 2001 19:26:41 +0100 The KLF reissue (read bootleg) looks like it's the long-lost one (i.e. the limited press of 2000 copies, some warped). It's got the rare 'Remix 2' of 'Last Train' that only appeared on this 12" and the rare "Ambient House" LP/CD compilation - mainly featuring train noises/sheep sounds - superb! Details from Picadilly Records: KLF : Last Train To Trancentral Remixes - 12" ?5.49 KLF Communications : KLF008R - Ground-breaking chilled out/blissed techno-house from '88. Very limited repress. Rough Trade in Neals Yard didn't have any copies, although the one near Ladbroke Grove might... l8rs, Nick ;-) > > -----Original Message----- > > > > I just did a search at HMV.co.uk as I usually do for KLF to see > > if they have > > any new stuff in (very rare). Today though I found a new item > > under artist > > KLF called Last Train, it's an LP with catalogue number > > JAMSLP010, I click > > through to it to see what it is (if it's just LTTT I've got it > > already) but > > HMV haven't supplied a track listing or anything. Is this a new > > release by > > B&J or is it just a 12" bootleg of LTTT? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: RE: (klf) KLF - Last Train LP - released 5/4/01 Date: 09 Apr 2001 14:38:22 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Nick King wrote: > It's got the rare 'Remix 2' of 'Last Train' that only appeared on this > 12" and the rare "Ambient House" LP/CD compilation - mainly featuring > train noises/sheep sounds - superb! the mu-D vari-speed version? that's on the us promo 12", too - which is actually relatively easy to find. i've seen lots of them. it's on arista, got the iron horse on the bside. (a 4-minute track pressed at 33 on one side of a 12"? weird.) i wonder if all of the us promo 12"s are worth $$$ - i actually found all of them at the wonderful record store out in pittsburgh, pa, usa for about a dollar each. micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (klf) KLF - Last Train LP - released 5/4/01 Date: 09 Apr 2001 19:44:25 +0100 No, the 'Mu-D Vari-Speed' version was (from memory) mixed by Moody Boyz, this is the original (bootleg?) 'Pure Trance' 12" remix... Might still get it, as the original one goes for a lot of money nowadays!! l8rs, Nick ;-) > -----Original Message----- > On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Nick King wrote: > > > It's got the rare 'Remix 2' of 'Last Train' that only appeared on this > > 12" and the rare "Ambient House" LP/CD compilation - mainly featuring > > train noises/sheep sounds - superb! > > the mu-D vari-speed version? that's on the us promo 12", too - which is > actually relatively easy to find. i've seen lots of them. it's on arista, > got the iron horse on the bside. (a 4-minute track pressed at 33 on one > side of a 12"? weird.) > > i wonder if all of the us promo 12"s are worth $$$ - i actually found all > of them at the wonderful record store out in pittsburgh, pa, usa for about > a dollar each. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: RE: (klf) KLF - Last Train LP - released 5/4/01 Date: 09 Apr 2001 14:56:35 -0400 (EDT) > No, the 'Mu-D Vari-Speed' version was (from memory) mixed by Moody > Boyz, this is the original (bootleg?) 'Pure Trance' 12" remix... ohhh...hm. i've seen the vari-speed version also labeled as "remix 2"...the mancentral page, for instance, has this. > Might still get it, as the original one goes for a lot of money > nowadays!! er, yeah, i think i will. turns out i'm missing one more track than i thought i did. :) how long is this remix 2? that may clear up some of the confusion... micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (klf) KLF - Last Train LP - released 5/4/01 Date: 09 Apr 2001 20:10:47 +0100 No worries, it's actually listed as plain "remix" in the discography - apologies for any confusion: The KLF: Last Train To Trancentral (pure trance original) [Mar 1990] single 12": 1990 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 008R) [white-label] 12": 1990 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 008R) [2000 pressed/1000 warped] 5:50 Last Train To Trancentral (remix) 6:45 Last Train To Trancentral (original) [black/pink ps; originally scheduled 19 Dec 1988] So, I'm assuming (I haven't seen it), that the "re-issue" (since it's got the same catalogue number - KLF 008R) will have the same tracks as above... The "original" mix is the same as the one on the CD single: CD5: 1991 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 008CD) CD5: 1991 OZ (Liberation; D10418) CD5: 1991 GE (Blow Up/Intercord; INT 825.907) CD5: 1991 DK (Mega Records/Coma; COMA CD7.014) CD5: 1991 BE (Indisc; DICD-8252) 3:37 Last Train To Trancentral (live from the lost continent-radio) 4:12 Last Train To Trancentral (the iron horse) 6:43 Last Train To Trancentral (original) ["pure trance original"] CD5: 1991 AU (Warner; DAN 656 923-2) 5:36 Last Train To Trancentral (live from the lost continent) 4:12 Last Train To Trancentral (the iron horse) 6:43 Last Train To Trancentral (original) whereas the "remix" mix is either only on the KLF008R 12" or the following compilation: [Last Train To Trancentral] [on Various: Ambient House: The Compilation By DFC] LP: 1990 UK (BCM Records BCM 422 LP) CD: 1990 UK (BCM Records BCM 422 CD) CS: 1990 UK (BCM Records BCM 422 MC) 5:54 Last Train To Trancentral (remix) which I have (on CD), but not the KLF008R 12"... Still, being a completist, I'll still probably end up buying it anyway!! Hope this helps, Nick ;-) > -----Original Message----- > > No, the 'Mu-D Vari-Speed' version was (from memory) mixed by Moody > > Boyz, this is the original (bootleg?) 'Pure Trance' 12" remix... > > ohhh...hm. i've seen the vari-speed version also labeled as "remix > 2"...the mancentral page, for instance, has this. > > > Might still get it, as the original one goes for a lot of money > > nowadays!! > > er, yeah, i think i will. turns out i'm missing one more track than i > thought i did. :) > > how long is this remix 2? that may clear up some of the confusion... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: Re: (klf) KLF - Last Train LP - released 5/4/01 Date: 09 Apr 2001 21:21:33 +0200 > > No, the 'Mu-D Vari-Speed' version was (from memory) mixed by Moody > > Boyz, this is the original (bootleg?) 'Pure Trance' 12" remix... > > ohhh...hm. i've seen the vari-speed version also labeled as "remix > 2"...the mancentral page, for instance, has this. Remix 2 runs at a constant speed. The "Vari-Speed" version - as the name implies - changes the tempo during the whole song, but itīs actually the same track. remix 2 - 5:50 vari speed - 7:00 Hope this clears things up a bit. cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: (klf) Does anybody know... Date: 09 Apr 2001 22:12:23 +0200 Hi, this might not sound K-related in the first place, but - believe me - it is... does anybody know of a woman called Rita Menendez ? Iīll explain why later. cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (klf) art Date: 09 Apr 2001 21:29:46 +0100 Anyone remember how subversive it once was to destroy money/possesions = and how the debate still goes on about the KLF and their =A31m? Below is a link to a page about an artist who recently dismantled = everything he had and destroyed it - all his belongings and car and so on. http://www.frieze.com/news/news.asp?n=3D33 And guess what, he's up for the Turner Prize - the very thing the KLF = were taking the piss out of. I know that his work and the burning of the =A31m aren't the same thing exactly, but I sense a vague link Thought someone might be interested. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuey and Michelle Subject: Re: (klf) art Date: 10 Apr 2001 16:03:50 +1200 "Howat, Simon" wrote: > Below is a link to a page about an artist who recently dismantled everything > he had and destroyed it - all his belongings and car and so on. > http://www.frieze.com/news/news.asp?n=33 and in another link to the K's it should be noted that the contact/agent for this artist is Artangel who also handled Rachel Whiteread at the time of the 1993 Turner Award / 1994 K-Foundation award. is there a konspiracy? cheers -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Stuey is webmaster of the New Zealand Green Party: http://www.greens.org.nz/ And webmaster of his own personal website too: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Robinson Subject: (klf) John Peel played a third track! More tonight? Date: 10 Apr 2001 19:15:08 +0100 From the track list archives... http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/tracklistings/peel_050401.shtml 'Zero' http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/tracklistings/peel_040401.shtml 'smash 12 Rmx' and http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/tracklistings/peel_030401.shtml 'do not sell after 1999' that's one every day... i'll be listening from 10:00 to 12:00 GMT today incase he plays more! I think the show is streamed on the web as it is aired, link here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/peel.shtml - Andy_R # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) KLF008R RE-ISSUE (UK) Date: 10 Apr 2001 15:37:18 EDT NOW THAT KLF008R HAS BEEN RE-ISSUED, DO YOU THINK THE VALUE OF THIS RECORD (IN IT'S ORIGINAL PRESSING) WILL BE AFFECTED? I DON'T THINK IT WILL, ESPECIALLY TO THE AVID COMPLETIST, BUT WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR OPINIONS. MILES # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) KLF008R RE-ISSUE (UK) Date: 10 Apr 2001 14:44:20 -0500 The record stores are calling it a "re-issue", when the people who have actually seen it are saying it's a bootleg. It isn't good for business to advertise that you are selling bootleg records. I don't think you have to worry about bootlegs affecting the legitimate pressings unless they are indistinguishable. "NOW THAT KLF008R HAS BEEN RE-ISSUED, DO YOU THINK THE VALUE OF THIS RECORD (IN IT'S ORIGINAL PRESSING) WILL BE AFFECTED? I DON'T THINK IT WILL, ESPECIALLY TO THE AVID COMPLETIST, BUT WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR OPINIONS." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek Knight" Subject: RE: (klf) John Peel played a third track! More tonight? Date: 10 Apr 2001 20:51:27 +0100 > that's one every day... i'll be listening from 10:00 to 12:00 GMT today > incase he plays more! I'll do my best to try and record it if he does. That way everyone can have a listen. For those planning to listen online, it's 10-12 GMT *+1*. (We're in BST now ;o) Fingers crossed... Del Derek Knight djnite@bigfoot.com http://www.djnite.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) KLF008R RE-ISSUE (UK) Date: 10 Apr 2001 16:57:06 EDT > NOW THAT KLF008R HAS BEEN RE-ISSUED, DO YOU THINK THE VALUE OF THIS RECORD > (IN IT'S ORIGINAL PRESSING) WILL BE AFFECTED? It's a bootleg, so no. However, it will make finding an original much harder. Before there was no question, buy now I wouldn't be so willing to drop $200 without definate proof. Those 1987 boots were selling on ebay for nearly the same price as a real one (fortunately I finally got an authentic copy a couple weeks before the boots appeared :) -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rockman=20Mike?= Subject: RE: (klf) KLF008R RE-ISSUE (UK) Date: 10 Apr 2001 22:10:02 +0100 (BST) --- Don Gagen wrote: > > The record stores are calling it a "re-issue", when > the people who have > actually seen it are saying it's a bootleg. It > isn't good for business to > advertise that you are selling bootleg records. I > don't think you have to > worry about bootlegs affecting the legitimate > pressings unless they are > indistinguishable. Hi Does anyone who has seen the "re-issue" know if it is indistinguishable from the original? Perhaps if someone who has "re-issue" can put details of record on the list (trainspotters needed please) so we can compare to original. Mike ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "happy consumer!" Subject: RE: (klf) mumu tattoo Date: 10 Apr 2001 14:57:58 -0700 WOW. you and uddemar... the tattoos looks good. >Sorry: >http://www.geocities.com/mumu23uk/KLF_Tattoo_Photos_01.html >-- >The JAMs Are Gonna Tattoo Ya Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "henrik uddemar" Subject: RE: (klf) mumu tattoo Date: 11 Apr 2001 05:34:09



Just a little note.

The tattoo on my page is on my brother in law.

I dont have the guts.....

>WOW.

>you and uddemar...
>the tattoos looks good.
 
> >Sorry:
> >http://www.geocities.com/mumu23uk/KLF_Tattoo_Photos_01.html
> >--
> >The JAMs Are Gonna Tattoo Ya
>

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# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stewart.Killala@doh.gsi.gov.uk Subject: RE: (klf) KLF008R RE-ISSUE (UK) Date: 11 Apr 2001 11:27:21 +0000 >Does anyone who has seen the "re-issue" know if it is >indistinguishable from the original? >Perhaps if someone who has "re-issue" can put details >of record on the list (trainspotters needed please) so >we can compare to original. The copies in HMV Oxford St are in pink pure trance number 5 sleeves, if thats any help. Stewart # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: (klf) Neil Sampson Date: 12 Apr 2001 04:36:04 EDT Please contact me # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) EBAY Date: 12 Apr 2001 08:15:45 EDT Just a quick note to say I currently have 2 KLF items on ebay; 1) THIS IS WHAT THE KLF IS ABOUT 1(STILL SEALED) (3 CD BOX SET) 2) THIS IS WHAT THE KLF IS ABOUT 2 (3 CD BOX SET) I also still have CHOC ICE 3 (MINT COND) for sale (as winner on ebay was a knob head, and decided he couldn't afford his bid!) And I have KLF 4R (EX COND) Finally if anyone out of the UK hasn't got a copy of the 'Re-issued KLF 008R' I have a spare copy, open to offers. Email me : milestighe@aol.com Thanks, that's it , i'm off............ Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: (klf) In The City Date: 13 Apr 2001 11:06:07 +0100 (BST) The other day I picked up a promo CD from a charity shop. It's called "The In The City CD" and it's just a CD with no inlay or accompanying info at all- on the CD itself it gives details of the In The City music conference of 1994. There are 8 tracks, 33:00 total. I'm currently up to track 3, and it's a selection of quite-good-1994-soft-techno, overlaid with _loads_ of speech samples, most of which sound like they might be from a debate between music industry executives- I think I can hear Tony Wilson and Malcolm Maclaren among others. So anyway, two questions, one of which _isn't_ off-topic... 1. Has anyone else got this CD? Does anyone know who's responsible, or what the tracklist is? 2. Why have I got a niggling feeling in the back of my head that there's a connection between the KLF (or K Foundation, or One World Orchestra) and the In The City '94 conference, but I can't remember for sure what the connection is? Actually, track 4's just started and it's a very different style- soft-misery-goth... Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) In The City Date: 13 Apr 2001 12:36:44 +0100 > 1. Has anyone else got this CD? Does anyone know who's responsible, or > what the tracklist is? Probably, but that person isn't me :-) > 2. Why have I got a niggling feeling in the back of my head that there's > a connection between the KLF (or K Foundation, or One World Orchestra) > and the In The City '94 conference, but I can't remember for sure what > the connection is? I don't know about 1994, but Bill and Jimmy appeared at In The City '95. They showed the "KLF burn a million quid" film and took part in a discussion afterwards as to whether the burning was "rock 'n' roll" or not. A CD of the discussion was issued. Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark weston" Subject: (klf) 3am garage remix Date: 14 Apr 2001 12:52:04 +0100 does anyone know aynthing about this supposedly released bootleg 12" single. Cheers Mark W. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek Knight" Subject: RE: (klf) 3am garage remix Date: 14 Apr 2001 13:24:19 +0100 > does anyone know aynthing about this supposedly released bootleg > 12" single. > Cheers Mark W. It's available at Hard To Find Records http://www.htfr.com I've got no idea what it sounds like, but it says it's a 2 step affair, like everything else these days. Probably only worth getting for the novelty value, I doubt they've added much. Del Derek Knight djnite@bigfoot.com http://www.djnite.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: (klf) New discography Date: 15 Apr 2001 00:32:54 +0200 Hi list, I had some time and so I added the discography to KLF Online (www.klf.de). I don't have Lazlo's okay at the moment (I mailed him some times but he didn't answer) but it seems that he has no time to update his version. So if you have some additions to make please send them to discography@klf.de and I will add them immediatley. Thanks. -- Torsten Pattberg www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wouter" Subject: (klf) movie: The Full Monty Date: 16 Apr 2001 22:18:53 +0200 Hi, just wondering, when the strippers are doing their audition Nathan (Gaz's son) is wearing a sweater with KCC printed on it very big. Any K-relation? By the way, I think it is extremely quiet on this list, I just rejoined it after a year of absence, and there used to be about 40 postings a day! How many members are there now? Greetz, Wouter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phil@philmanns.demon.co.uk Subject: (klf) Interesting item on eBay web site item#1422476785: THE KLF Stadium House VHS OOP Cool Tape L@@K! Date: 17 Apr 2001 10:27:46 PDT I saw this item for sale at eBay, surprised no ones gone for it? Phil. Title of item: THE KLF Stadium House VHS OOP Cool Tape L@@K! Seller: zulurecords.com Starts: Apr-07-01 16:01:49 PDT Ends: Apr-17-01 16:01:49 PDT Price: Starts at $6.99 To bid on the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1422476785 Item Description: temp6   THE KLF Stadium House VHS OOP Cool Tape L@@K!      Released in 1991 on BMG (CANADA CAT# SW-15715-3), this video is now OUT-OF-PRINT and features LIVE FOOTAGE OF KLF performing 3 tracks at WOODSTOCK. 16 minutes of heaven! Condition: Excellent condition! Thanks for your interest in this item, check out our other auctions for more cool titles! Good luck to all bidders. Please note: * Items are guaranteed. * High bidder must contact us within 3 days of auction close. * Payment must be received within 12 days of auction close.   Method of payment: * All prices are in US FUNDS. * We accept INTERNATIONAL MONEY ORDERS, PAYPAL payments, BIDPAY payments BILLPOINT payments for all transactions. We also accept VISA &  MASTER CARD for transactions within NORTH AMERICA. We do not accept VISA and MASTERCARD for INTERNATIONAL transactions. *** No Personal Cheques.*** North American Postage & Handling Rates: (1st Class) 7" and CDs:  $3 12" and LPs:  $4 Additional items: Add an extra $1 per item.     Box Sets: Add an extra $1 per disc. Overseas Postage & Handling Rates: (Air Mail) 7" and CDs:  $5 12" and LPs: $5 Additional items: Add an extra $2 per item.      Box Sets: Add an extra $2 per disc.   Click here to view our other auctions.Visit our website at www.zulurecords.com Any questions? email:  info@zulurecords.com On Apr-07-01 at 16:12:11 PDT, seller added the following information: I prefer PayPal, the #1 payment service in online auctions! On Apr-08-01 at 17:28:34 PDT, seller added the following information: Use any major credit card with BidPay for easy online paymentswww.BidPay.com Visit eBay, the world's largest Personal Trading Community at http://www.ebay.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: (klf) KLF on "Never Mind The Buzzcocks" last night. Date: 17 Apr 2001 20:09:48 +0100 Just watched "Never Mind The Buzzcocks" taped from last night. On the mystery connection round they played Justified&Ancient and a Nik Kershaw video. The connection was that they've both written books on having hits. There was quite a bit of discussion about KLF, burning money etc. I think it is normally repeated later in the week or at the weekend if anyone wants to see it. Also Roland Rivron was on one of the teams, he appeared in the Solid Gold Chartbusters video. Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Maarten" Subject: (klf) Love Trance 006T @EBAY Date: 17 Apr 2001 21:17:17 +0200 Hello List, Did I Miss anything? Who is selling this item? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1423775495 According to the Record Collector from april 1991 ("complete KLF discography") : KLF006T Love Trance (mixes) (unrecorded scheduled 12", 11/88, 2000 sleeves printed (as well as labels) The vinyl doesn't exist. The sleeves and labels do exist, so could this be a counterfeit? I remember a song called Love Trance with a sample from japaneese? woman saying "the KLF has left the building" which turned out to be a fake song. Anyone else has got a copy? Cheers, Maarten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Subject: Re: (klf) KLF on "Never Mind The Buzzcocks" last night. Date: 17 Apr 2001 20:39:15 +0100 Phil Blake writes >Just watched "Never Mind The Buzzcocks" taped from last night. On the >mystery connection round they played Justified&Ancient and a Nik Kershaw >video. The connection was that they've both written books on having hits. >There was quite a bit of discussion about KLF, burning money etc. I wondered when someone was going to mention that as otherwise I was going to mention it myself. The teams seemed quite sussed about what Bill and Jim had got up to (even if they had considered all of what they did to be entirely under the monicker of The KLF, which is unsurprising frankly!) Fans of 'The KLF' may like to check out a section of Stewart Home`s brand new booklet 'Jean Baudrillard and the Psychogeography of Nudism' (3.75 from Sabotage Editions, BM Senior, London, WC1N 3XX as among the contents is the reproduction of an article that originally appeared in Sleazenation vol 3 number 4 May 2000 about Jimmy Cauty arranging for Stewart to be his 'Minister of Information' and all of the responsibilities that come duly come with such a privileged position. There`s also a slagging off of Julian Cope's mighty standing stone tome 'The Modern Antiquarian' and the usual unusual stuff that you tend to expect in the works of Home. Check it out if you dare! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) Love Trance 006T @EBAY Date: 17 Apr 2001 20:46:18 +0100 > The sleeves and labels do exist, so could this be a counterfeit? > I remember a song called Love Trance with a sample from japaneese? woman > saying "the KLF has left the building" which turned out to be a fake song. I've heard the MP3 of something called "Love Trance" which has this woman's voice as you described. I don't remember anyone actually saying the track was a fake. Can you tell me more? Thanks, Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: Re: (klf) Love Trance 006T @EBAY Date: 17 Apr 2001 22:10:12 +0200 > I've heard the MP3 of something called "Love Trance" which has this woman's > voice as you described. I don't remember anyone actually saying the track > was a fake. Can you tell me more? As far as I heard, itīs a version compiled by Nick Coler. Iīll be certain later, Iīm still waiting for his reply to my mail (at least he told me that he had no time at the moment, but heīll mail back) What I can say about the seller is that heīs reliable and has been a big KLF fan himself, so I guess he knows what heīs talking about. Weīll see... Oh, and if you all think itīs a counterfeit... why just donīt leave it to me so it wonīt be that expensive ? ;-) cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: (klf) Go West Date: 17 Apr 2001 19:04:16 EDT Just discovered the previously unreleased Mark Stent remix of Pet Shop Boys' Go West has shown up on NOW 1993 (millennium series). The credits list it as being mixed by Brothers in Rhythm, but there is a very distinct KLF break in the middle of the song. I assume it was released accidently... -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Timo Toivonen" Subject: (klf) Quality of eil.com Date: 18 Apr 2001 03:15:47 +0300 Hello list! I saw a recommendation of eil.com on the list a while ago and went to check their KLF selection. Some records caught my interest. Before buying I would like to know what is the quality of records they are selling. Am I getting my purchase in mint condition or am I supposed to tolerate dozens of scratches on records? Has anyone outside the UK experiences on sending cash to eil.com? Eagerly waiting for your answers, Timo Toivonen -- . ..-[ timo.toivonen@iki.fi | http://www.iki.fi/stibe/ ]-.. . "War does not determine who is right - only who is left." Bertrand Russell # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Quality of eil.com Date: 17 Apr 2001 20:46:51 EDT > Before buying I would like to know what is the quality of records > they are selling. Am I getting my purchase in mint condition or am I > supposed to tolerate dozens of scratches on records? I think it's safe to say most of the older stuff is used, but still playable. I haven't bought a lot of stuff from them, and I don't think any vinyl, but I've been pleased in the past. Doubt they'd sell a ripped to shreds vinyl... -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: Re: (klf) Quality of eil.com Date: 18 Apr 2001 06:13:06 +0200 > I think it's safe to say most of the older stuff is used, but still playable. > I haven't bought a lot of stuff from them, and I don't think any vinyl, but > I've been pleased in the past. Doubt they'd sell a ripped to shreds vinyl... Theyīre highly reliable and the items I bought are in good/excellent shape, wether CD or records. Just my experience. cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: RE: (klf) Quality of eil.com Date: 18 Apr 2001 08:23:58 +0100 > -----Original Message----- > From: Timo Toivonen > Sent: 18 April 2001 01:16 > To: klf@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (klf) Quality of eil.com > Before buying I would like to know what is the quality of records > they are selling. Am I getting my purchase in mint condition or am I > supposed to tolerate dozens of scratches on records? > > Has anyone outside the UK experiences on sending cash to eil.com? I've never found them to be anything but excellent. Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: (klf) Please contact me! Date: 18 Apr 2001 11:08:05 +0200 gfe, Puff, Snarfy and Billie Wheatley could you please contact me, i lost all my mail-adresses # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel" Subject: Re: (klf) Love Trance 006T @EBAY Date: 19 Apr 2001 17:53:43 +0930 If I can put my oar in for a second, I can verify that this disc does actually exist as I made an Mp3 soundbite for the owner today due to requests from potential bidders. It certainly looked, felt and sounded real to me, nice thick vinyl and pressed labels (as opposed to labels glued on that I've seen on other bootlegs). Believe me if I could afford it I'd buy it myself but it's well out of my price range. Cheers danny > > > The sleeves and labels do exist, so could this be a counterfeit? > > I remember a song called Love Trance with a sample from japaneese? woman > > saying "the KLF has left the building" which turned out to be a fake song. > > I've heard the MP3 of something called "Love Trance" which has this woman's > voice as you described. I don't remember anyone actually saying the track > was a fake. Can you tell me more? > > Thanks, > > Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: (klf) gfe, Billie Wheatley and Dusan Semen Date: 19 Apr 2001 14:20:54 +0200 Please contact me, i lost your email adress... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Love Trance 006T @EBAY Date: 19 Apr 2001 12:55:26 EDT The simple way to check if it's real or a bootleg, like on all KLF records, is to ask for a scan of the cat no. on the vinyl. If the text is in TYPE SET it's a fake, if it's in a HAND WRITTEN STYLE it's real. As no-one has ever seen one before, it's the only real way of checking. The other way is checking if it has a barcode on the cover, but as we know the covers did/do exist, this won't prove much! Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "gliddenm@nettaxi.com" Subject: (klf) k cera cera value? Date: 19 Apr 2001 10:18:02 -0700 hi there, i recently came into possession of the K Cera Cera cd in original packaging...having never seen this, and deducing from the discography that there were 3000 copies, is it considered rare? how hard are these things to find? what kinda value do they have? thanks, matt.(who's going to see the orb playin about 6 hours :) WIN $1,000,000 Play Nettaxi Lotto http://sweeps.nettaxi.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anders Hultman Subject: Re: (klf) k cera cera value? Date: 19 Apr 2001 19:38:00 +0200 gliddenm@nettaxi.com: > i recently came into possession of the K Cera Cera cd in original > packaging...having never seen this, and deducing from the discography > that there were 3000 copies, is it considered rare? how hard are these > things to find? what kinda value do they have? I payed NOK 400 for mine if that helps you :-) My mother has the 78rpm disc of Doris Day singing "Que Sera Sera" by the way. anders ------------------------- http://anders.hultman.nu/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anna Sowerby Subject: (klf) KLF abandon all art Date: 19 Apr 2001 20:16:54 +0100 Does anyone know anything about the re-emergence of the Abandon All Art flyers? They're popping up all round Liverpool at the moment... Oh, and hello! I'm new to the list... nice to meet you all, my name's Anna... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) Love Trance 006T @EBAY Date: 19 Apr 2001 23:18:44



>The simple way to check if it's real or a bootleg, like on all KLF records,
>is to ask for a scan of the cat no. on the vinyl. If the text is in TYPE SET
>it's a fake, if it's in a HAND WRITTEN STYLE it's real.

Umm. that doesn't proove anything at all. If I was making a boot record of something and I cared about anyone knowing if it was real or not, I'd just hand write the catalogue number into the master. How hard is that? Lot's of my records have hand written track catalogue info, some of which is rather amusing at times.


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"Let me explain a couple of things. Time is short. That's the
first thing. For the weasel, Time is a weasel. For the hero,
Time is heroic. For the whore, Time is just another trick.
If you're gentle, your Time is gentle. If you're in a hurry,
Time flies. Time is a servant, if you are its master. Time
is your god, if you are its dog. We are the creators of Time,
the victims of Time, and the killers of Time. Time is timeless.
That's the second thing. You are the clock, Cassiel."

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# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Virtanen Mikko Subject: RE: (klf) Love Trance 006T @EBAY Date: 20 Apr 2001 09:38:04 +0300 So all this means that the Love Trance -mp3 with "KLF has left the building" is real? But is the b-side Welcome To The Trance completely 'new' song, or just a remix of something? .mikkov If I can put my oar in for a second, I can verify that this disc does actually exist as I made an Mp3 soundbite for the owner today due to requests from potential bidders. It certainly looked, felt and sounded real to me, nice thick vinyl and pressed labels (as opposed to labels glued on that I've seen on other bootlegs). Believe me if I could afford it I'd buy it myself but it's well out of my price range. Cheers danny > > > The sleeves and labels do exist, so could this be a counterfeit? > > I remember a song called Love Trance with a sample from japaneese? woman > > saying "the KLF has left the building" which turned out to be a fake song. > > I've heard the MP3 of something called "Love Trance" which has this woman's > voice as you described. I don't remember anyone actually saying the track > was a fake. Can you tell me more? > > Thanks, > > Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Virtanen Mikko Subject: RE: (klf) Love Trance 006T @EBAY Date: 20 Apr 2001 10:26:03 +0300 <> So all this means that the Love Trance -mp3 with "KLF has left the is real? But is the b-side Welcome To The Trance completely 'new' song, or <> just <> a remix of something? Subject: (klf) German Golden Rules Date: 20 Apr 2001 11:43:11 +0200 Hi, if anybodyīs interested... the german translation of the Ten Golden Rules is online at www.das-ist-das-en.de cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) Love Trance 006T @EBAY Date: 20 Apr 2001 11:14:10 I'm not saying you aren't speaking the truth, I'm saying that I think you *highly* overrate the security of a guys handwriting. Bootlegs have a mastering stage too you know, (they are records like any other) and how hard could it posibly be to fake "DAMONT"'s handwritting for just a few numbers and letters? Anything that was done with an original can be done with the bootelg. It's not like we are talking about printing American money here, it's just a record. While past KLF bootlegs have all been obviously fake (screwed up colors on Space, mis-spellings on 1987) the fact is that just about any place that presses vinyl could fake just about any contemporary release, *if* they really wanted to. Handwriting would be the least of the stumbling blocks to a perfect counerfit. >ummm, it does, all the cat no.s are in the same style, with the >same method >of pressing the numbers in. You just need to compare it to >other >KLF items to >check. A bootleg would never be exact, because the number >has to >be etched at >the acetate/mastering stage. >Oh and nearly all were mastered by a fella called DAMONT, >written in the same >style on every vinyl. > I>'m not wrong. > >Miles Chad Gombosi Member SCP www.scponline.net Chad's Game Music Page www.chadsgamemusic.com MP3.com page: www.mp3.com/signofzeta "Let me explain a couple of things. Time is short. That's the first thing. For the weasel, Time is a weasel. For the hero, Time is heroic. For the whore, Time is just another trick. If you're gentle, your Time is gentle. If you're in a hurry, Time flies. Time is a servant, if you are its master. Time is your god, if you are its dog. We are the creators of Time, the victims of Time, and the killers of Time. Time is timeless. That's the second thing. You are the clock, Cassiel." Emit - Far Away So Close _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (klf) Love Trance 006T @EBAY Date: 20 Apr 2001 10:46:47 -0500 I was willing to go about $600 or $700 for this, which is pretty obscene. At least I have enough rare duplicates I could sell to make up the difference, but there is no way I would pay $1325 for it. I think that is the single most expensive KLF record I have ever come across. I wonder if someone might be havein buyers remorse. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1423775495&r=0&t=0&sh owTutorial=0&ed=987764028&indexURL=0&rd=1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Maarten" Subject: Re: (klf) Love Trance 006T @EBAY Date: 20 Apr 2001 18:04:22 +0200 I was willing to go about $700 or $800. Couldn't sleep because I was still wondering weather this was a genuine item or a counterfeit. Still not sure. That was my reason to retract my bid at $655. My dad thought I was going mad willing to spend so much money on a KLF item after I told him what I was upto... > I was willing to go about $600 or $700 for this, which is pretty obscene. > At least I have enough rare duplicates I could sell to make up the > difference, but there is no way I would pay $1325 for it. I think that is > the single most expensive KLF record I have ever come across. I wonder if > someone might be havein buyers remorse. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1423775495&r=0&t=0&sh > owTutorial=0&ed=987764028&indexURL=0&rd=1 > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rob Myers" Subject: (klf) Bad KLF Covers Date: 20 Apr 2001 17:41:28 Hi everyone, new to the list... A couple of years ago I found an interesting CD in a Goodwill store... it is a CD of dance music covers by a no-name group in the Netherlands. Among others, they do covers of "3AM Eternal" and "Last Train to Trancentral"- very bad covers. Since I haven't seen any mention of these tracks in the discog. or in the list archives, I thought I'd bring them up... The CD is labeled "Disco Dance Remix Vol. 4", no artist, G&G Music RG 3550. No copyright date but I'd guess '91 or '92. The tracks are both credited to their authors, but Cauty is misspelled as "Cuaty" on one track... I converted the tracks to MP3 and made them available; they should be good for a laugh or two. http://members.localnet.com/~rpm1200/DDR_3AM.mp3 http://members.localnet.com/~rpm1200/DDR_Tran.mp3 I'll probably delete them sometime next week, so get 'em now if you want 'em. Have fun, Rob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kubi Subject: Re: (klf) Bad KLF Covers Date: 20 Apr 2001 20:39:40 +0200 I just checked them out. They're really bad. I guess that's what's meant by "The worst is yet to come..." at the KC-Page. kubi Rob Myers wrote: > > Hi everyone, new to the list... > A couple of years ago I found an interesting CD in a Goodwill store... it is > a CD of dance music covers by a no-name group in the Netherlands. Among > others, they do covers of "3AM Eternal" and "Last Train to Trancentral"- > very bad covers. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) Love Trance 006T @EBAY Date: 20 Apr 2001 18:25:34 +0100 > I was willing to go about $600 or $700 for this, which is pretty obscene. I figured having missed out on one copy of this record, I didn't want to miss out on another. But around Ģ500 was my limit... A third copy is, I believe, somewhere in Norfolk, UK. Simon. P.S. It's pleasing that the number of bids was 23 :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: Re: (klf) Bad KLF Covers Date: 20 Apr 2001 21:41:05 +0200 > I just checked them out. > They're really bad. I guess that's what's meant by "The worst is yet to > come..." at the KC-Page. Not really... :-) But I got two (four, to be honest) KLF covers here, same tracks, but different artists. Question is who of them is worse... Iīll upload them as mp3 to the page. So maybe the worst it really yet to come... cy@ c-Row www.klf-communications.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "happy consumer!" Subject: RE: (klf) Bad KLF Covers Date: 20 Apr 2001 12:56:55 -0700 >I converted the tracks to MP3 and made them available; they should be good >for a laugh or two. >http://members.localnet.com/~rpm1200/DDR_3AM.mp3 >http://members.localnet.com/~rpm1200/DDR_Tran.mp3 they're great! terrible, of course, but great! i wonder if they knew they were parodying parody. is the KLF a parody? they are in a way, right? thanks for the tracks rob. very interesting. happyconsumer Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. 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Only when you click here now - - > http://www.free-irewards.com/cgi-bin/bmb2 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Bad KLF Covers Date: 20 Apr 2001 17:42:39 EDT In a message dated 20/04/01 18:52:27 GMT Daylight Time, rpm1200@hotmail.com writes: > Hi everyone, new to the list... > A couple of years ago I found an interesting CD in a Goodwill store... it is > > a CD of dance music covers by a no-name group in the Netherlands. Among > others, they do covers of "3AM Eternal" and "Last Train to Trancentral"- > very bad covers. Oh my, I've only listened to 3AM and that was absolutely gut-wrenchingly horrific. Did they even bother to get the lyrics????? I remember a few years ago I was camping with scouts (25th Warrington) and on the camp we had an accident, and unfortunatly my best friend died on the camp :'(. After this terrible event one of the DJ's at a local radio station was also camping on the same site (Signal Cheshire), who phoned for the air ambulance, got us together with his guitar and asked for us to request some songs and I remember asking him to play 3AM Eternal, and I couldn't believe he actually managed to play it on a guitar, and even hearing someone attempt to replicate electronic dance music on a guitar is better than what I've just heard (actually he was very good). Will my eardrums ever recover? and how do you get "sex is the groove" (or whatever they were singing) from "ancients of mu mu"??? Your computer can help Cancer Research - see http://www.ud.com THINK project. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "happy consumer!" Subject: Re: (klf) Bad KLF Covers Date: 20 Apr 2001 15:02:15 -0700 and how do you get "sex is the groove" (or >whatever they were singing) from "ancients of mu mu"??? maybe they read the manual. see the section on "GROOVE" http://klf.life.eu.org/Misc/the-manual.txt "Before we go any further we had better define "groove". It is basically the drum and bass patterns and all the other musical sounds on the record that are neither hummable or singalongable to. Groove is the underlying sex element of the record and we are afraid for U.K. Number Ones this can never be left too rabidly raw on the 7" format. It upsets our subliminal national moral code. We can cope with smut but not grind. Of course, there are the odd exceptions." happyconsumer Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - advertisement - - - - - - Limited Time Offer: FREE Products! Pay only shipping and handling. Get FREE Software, CDR's, Cellular Accessories, Videos, DVD's, Music, Injet Refills and much more. Only when you click here now - - > http://www.free-irewards.com/cgi-bin/bmb2 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "happy consumer!" Subject: Re: (klf) Bad KLF Covers Date: 20 Apr 2001 15:04:37 -0700 and how do you get "sex is the groove" (or >whatever they were singing) from "ancients of mu mu"??? maybe they read the manual. see the section on "GROOVE" http://klf.life.eu.org/Misc/the-manual.txt "Before we go any further we had better define "groove". It is basically the drum and bass patterns and all the other musical sounds on the record that are neither hummable or singalongable to. Groove is the underlying sex element of the record and we are afraid for U.K. Number Ones this can never be left too rabidly raw on the 7" format. It upsets our subliminal national moral code. We can cope with smut but not grind. Of course, there are the odd exceptions." happyconsumer Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - advertisement - - - - - - Limited Time Offer: FREE Products! Pay only shipping and handling. Get FREE Software, CDR's, Cellular Accessories, Videos, DVD's, Music, Injet Refills and much more. Only when you click here now - - > http://www.free-irewards.com/cgi-bin/bmb2 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Snarfy Subject: (klf) Anybody seen this yet??? Date: 20 Apr 2001 20:40:21 -0400 (EDT) http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ChillOut/page2.html I used to go here and want to buy stuff..it appears EVERYTHING is for sale now??? for $23,000??? This is scary..check some of the items in there... Makes me wish I had a house to sell to buy the lot.. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Flewin" Subject: (klf) love trance sold... conspiracy??? Date: 21 Apr 2001 06:53:42 Anyone notice the item of evenb more interest then some person paying that much for the record... like the # of bids being... 23... can you smell the Konspiracy? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1423775495&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=987764028&indexURL=0&rd=1 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rockman=20Mike?= Subject: Re: (klf) Anybody seen this yet??? Date: 21 Apr 2001 11:40:33 +0100 (BST) --- Snarfy wrote: > > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ChillOut/page2.html > > I used to go here and want to buy stuff..it appears > EVERYTHING is for sale > now??? > for $23,000??? > This is scary..check some of the items in there... > Makes me wish I had a house to sell to buy the lot.. It's Aladdins Cave surely? Perhaps we should have a KLF AID concert to raise the money? Mike ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark weston" Subject: (klf) barbician bootleg cd Date: 21 Apr 2001 14:23:54 +0100 Please can anyone point me in the right direction to get a copy of this cd. Regards Mark w. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: (klf) ***K the millennium Date: 21 Apr 2001 12:01:46 EDT I was just checking my copy of the ***K the millennium CD and noticed something which is strange. Under the tracks it says the following All tracks written by Drummond (Warner Chappell Music Ltd) & Cauty (BMG Music Ltd) 1987. 1. How come B&J are using different music companies (Warner & BMG) I thought they were under KLF Communications (Warner Chappell), and how does Blast First/Mute Records fit into all this????? 2. How come the tracks date is 1987 when ***K the millennium was released in 1997?, did they plan the whole thing 10yrs prior to the release? Another thing, what is the correct address to post to klf@lists.xmission.com or klf@xmission.com? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: (klf) ***K the millennium Date: 21 Apr 2001 12:01:46 EDT I was just checking my copy of the ***K the millennium CD and noticed something which is strange. Under the tracks it says the following All tracks written by Drummond (Warner Chappell Music Ltd) & Cauty (BMG Music Ltd) 1987. 1. How come B&J are using different music companies (Warner & BMG) I thought they were under KLF Communications (Warner Chappell), and how does Blast First/Mute Records fit into all this????? 2. How come the tracks date is 1987 when ***K the millennium was released in 1997?, did they plan the whole thing 10yrs prior to the release? Another thing, what is the correct address to post to klf@lists.xmission.com or klf@xmission.com? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek Knight" Subject: RE: (klf) ***K the millennium Date: 21 Apr 2001 17:36:04 +0100 > 1. How come B&J are using different music companies (Warner & BMG) I thought > they were under KLF Communications (Warner Chappell), and how does Blast > First/Mute Records fit into all this????? I think that Warner and BMG are involved the in publishing rights of the track, whereas Blast First/Mute are the record company that released it. Two different things entirely. (Think of the Beatles: published by Northern Songs, released on Parlophone.) > 2. How come the tracks date is 1987 when ***K the millennium was released in > 1997?, did they plan the whole thing 10yrs prior to the release? Isn't that referring to the publishing date of the samples from the "1987" LP? I don't have the CD handy, so I'm not 100% sure. > Another thing, what is the correct address to post to > klf@lists.xmission.com > or klf@xmission.com? I think they both work. Is one superior to the other?? Del Derek Knight djnite@bigfoot.com http://www.djnite.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: RE: (klf) ***K the millennium Date: 21 Apr 2001 12:46:09 -0400 (EDT) On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Derek Knight wrote: > > 2. How come the tracks date is 1987 when ***K the millennium was released > in > > 1997?, did they plan the whole thing 10yrs prior to the release? > > Isn't that referring to the publishing date of the samples from the "1987" > LP? I don't have the CD handy, so I'm not 100% sure. "fuck the millenium" is another version of "what time is love", from 1987. micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rockman=20Mike?= Subject: Re: (klf) barbician bootleg cd Date: 21 Apr 2001 17:55:12 +0100 (BST) --- mark weston wrote: > > Please can anyone point me in the right direction to > get a copy of this cd. > Regards Mark w. I would be interested as well, if anyone wants to contact me offline. Mike ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ditch X" Subject: RE: (klf) FUCK the millenium Date: 23 Apr 2001 00:31:45 -0400 Darren F said: I was just checking my copy of the ***K the millennium CD and noticed something which is strange. Under the tracks it says the following: 'All tracks written by Drummond (Warner Chappell Music Ltd) & Cauty (BMG Music Ltd) 1987' 1. How come B&J are using different music companies (Warner & BMG) I thought they were under KLF Communications (Warner Chappell), and how does Blast First/Mute Records fit into all this????? 2. How come the tracks date is 1987 when ***K the millennium was released in 1997?, did they plan the whole thing 10yrs prior to the release? 3. Another thing, what is the correct address to post to klf@lists.xmission.com or klf@xmission.com? Ditch X said: 1. What Derek Knight said probably. KLF Comms was an indie record label creation by Bill, Jimmy, and accomplises, and was thus dissolved in 992 by those parties involved. Arista, TVT, and various European, Japanese, and Australian manufacturers and distributors were also involved. Jimmy still writes music, so he does need some company to declare publication rights for his remixing work in order to get paid. BMG is the ticket there. They have publishing rights. I'm clueless what the connection is to Warner Chappell Music LTD. and Bill, especially since he doesn't publish music anymore. Perhaps before they worked together in '87, they had exclusive publishing rights with these companies as solo acts. Someone figure this out so I can sleep! 2. Impossible that they planned all this ahead of time. These two never really had a masterplan to begin with. They often acted on whim. This was purely for fun. Chances are that the reference to 1987 is intended as a subtle sybolism that they are basically rehashing ideas from long ago. Not to forget that it marked ten years since this all began and the point that the song itself is entirely based on samples from the JAMS LP1, JAMS LP2, and the original 1988 Pure Trance Version of WTIL?... I believe the point that Jeremy Dellar's concept for this, the Acid Brass's reproduction of an early and eternal KLF track around that time, the up and coming millenium hype and horror, and the ten year anniversary seemed the absolute perfect combination of elements and planetary alignments for Bill and Jimmy to record this song and stage a sybolic 23 minute concert stabbing first at the impending millenium change. They did it on a whim because everything fit so perfectly. Chances like that only knock once. Had it not been for Princess Diana's tragic end during all of this, it would have really sent the world reeling into a frenzy. Instead, a remixed concept of another old song by one Elton John dominated the record shelves. Perhaps there's some curious link between those two events? *Whatever... just my two sence(!). I could be very wrong.* 3. The first one. Never second guess yourself. It's not healthy. Seriously. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: (klf) And once again.....what's up with Marek Date: 23 Apr 2001 14:32:10 +0200 I wonder if i would ever get my CDs with the videos from Marek..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: (klf) Another new bootleg???? Date: 23 Apr 2001 15:16:53 +0200 Just browsed through the website of gemm.com and found this: Last Train to Trancentral RMX on 12inch manufactured in Netherland (thats where all the other bootlegs come from..) 3 VERS. +FOR ETERNITY & BONUS TRACK:MESSAGE OF LOVE 3 Vers... okay that could possible be "Live from the lost continent"/"Iron Horse"/"pure Trance Classic" or something like that,but what are these tracks called "for eternity" & "Message of Love"???? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "happy consumer!" Subject: (klf) re: ***K THE MILLENNIUM Date: 23 Apr 2001 09:05:14 -0700 >how does Blast First/Mute Records fit into all this????? i too, wondered why they went with Blast First/Mute Records, and what they had to do with anything. I imagine bill & jimmy had there choice when it came time to pick a label to relase Fuck the Millennium. what indy label [i believe they're independent] wouldnt agree to releasing a single by ex-members of the KLF? I could be totally wrong, and it probably all just worked out this way for different reasons, but mute/ blast first is perfect just for their names and logo alone, aside from serving the right market for this single. 1.mute - MU te 2. blastfirst's logo- its a triangle with a dot in the middle, emitting rays of energy. maybe it s a bomb i guess, but it reminds me of the eye inside the pyramid, with the rays of light coming out from behind. 3. the name blast first- check the illuminatus! trilogy to see how many names there are that have a first and last name both containing 5 letters. also, jimmy's Advanced Acoustic Armaments was supposed to be released on this label. -happyconsumer Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - advertisement - - - - - - Limited Time Offer: FREE Products! Pay only shipping and handling. Get FREE Software, CDR's, Cellular Accessories, Videos, DVD's, Music, Injet Refills and much more. Only when you click here now - - > http://www.free-irewards.com/cgi-bin/bmb2 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (klf) re: ***K THE MILLENNIUM Date: 23 Apr 2001 12:26:22 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, happy consumer! wrote: > >how does Blast First/Mute Records fit into all this????? > > i too, wondered why they went with Blast First/Mute Records, and what > they had to do with anything. I imagine bill & jimmy had there choice > when it came time to pick a label to relase Fuck the Millennium. what > indy label [i believe they're independent] wouldnt agree to releasing > a single by ex-members of the KLF? also, label head daniel miller is a very cool bloke, always treats his people right and is a smart man. micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) FUCK the millenium Date: 23 Apr 2001 12:44:33 EDT In a message dated 23/04/01 05:41:35 GMT Daylight Time, ditchx@bellsouth.net writes: > They have > publishing rights. I'm clueless what the connection is to Warner Chappell > Music LTD. and Bill, especially since he doesn't publish music anymore. > Perhaps before they worked together in '87, they had exclusive publishing > rights with these companies as solo acts. Someone figure this out so I can > sleep! Thanks for the answers, I figured out how Warner Chappell fitted with Bill Drummond it was just Jimmy's assoc with BMG I wasn't too sure about (KLF Communications was a subsidary of Warner Chappell), I was wondering why Bill stayed with Warner and Jimmy moved to BMG. Maybe it was all part of the Konspiracy, and the liking of 3 letter symbols that everyone thinks they mean one thing and they actually mean something quite different (like Bertlesmann Music Group, or Kopyright Liberation Front or was it Kopyright Liberation Foundation (officially I know it wasn't suppossed to stand for anything), I wonder if he's thought of doing a Digital Versatile Disc yet :D ??) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Snarfy Subject: Re: (klf) And once again.....what's up with Marek Date: 23 Apr 2001 14:01:30 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Ford Timelord wrote: > > I wonder if i would ever get my CDs with the videos from Marek.. I wonder if ANYONE will get the cd's from marek.. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: Re: (klf) re: ***K THE MILLENNIUM Date: 23 Apr 2001 20:07:20 +0200 At 09:05 23.04.01 -0700, you wrote: > >how does Blast First/Mute Records fit into all this????? > >i too, wondered why they went with Blast First/Mute Records, and what they >had to do with anything. I imagine bill & jimmy had there choice when it >came time to pick a label to relase Fuck the Millennium. what indy label >[i believe they're independent] wouldnt agree to releasing a single by >ex-members of the KLF? It is so easy to explain, why Mute Blast First.... The idea to make a remodelled "What Time Is Love" was not by Bill and Jimmy. It was an idea of Jeremy Deller to perform Dance Tracks with an orchestral band....This was how the project "Acid Brass". They made their version of "What Time Is Love" like other remakes of tracks like Pacific 202 or Strings of life. I think Bill & Jimmy joined later that project to make FTM. As a matter of fact, that Acid Brass's album was released on Mute Blast First, it's easy to understand that a single of that album have to be released on the same label... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: Re: (klf) And once again.....what's up with Marek Date: 23 Apr 2001 20:21:35 +0200 At 14:01 23.04.01 -0400, you wrote: >On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Ford Timelord wrote: > > > > > I wonder if i would ever get my CDs with the videos from Marek.. > >I wonder if ANYONE will get the cd's from marek.. Should we put him into the Hall of Shame ? He could have the second rank behind Mike Dutton.....hehe # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ditch X" Subject: Re: (klf) And once again.....what's up with Marek Date: 23 Apr 2001 17:53:43 -0400 Ford asked: I wonder if i would ever get my CDs with the videos from Marek.. Snarfy replied: I wonder if ANYONE will get the cd's from marek.. Ford asked: Should we put him into the Hall of Shame ? He could have the second rank behind Mike Dutton.....hehe Ditch X asks: Who's Mike Dutton and what did he do again? Ditch X further remarks: Marek will come through someday. It may have taken something like two years for it to happen, but it will be worth it.. maybe... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) re: ***K THE MILLENNIUM Date: 23 Apr 2001 18:34:07 EDT In a message dated 4/23/01 11:07:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, FordTimelord@klf-communications.com writes: > It is so easy to explain, why Mute Blast First.... > The idea to make a remodelled "What Time Is Love" was not by Bill and > Jimmy. It was an idea of Jeremy Deller to perform Dance Tracks with an > orchestral band....This was how the project "Acid Brass". They made their > version of "What Time Is Love" like other remakes of tracks like Pacific > 202 or Strings of life. > I think Bill & Jimmy joined later that project to make FTM. As a matter of > fact, that Acid Brass's album was released on Mute Blast First, it's easy > to understand that a single of that album have to be released on the same > label... IIRC, what really happened was Bill attended the Acid Brass concert (of which a live cd was produced) and when they performed WTIL got very excited and called Jimmy on the cell and made him listen to it during the show, telling Jimmy they have to do something with this. They then teamed up with Deller... etc. So FTM was inspired by Acid Brass as a seperate projuect. I wouldn't call FTM a single from Acid Brass, nor would I say Deller co-spired with B/J to create a new WTIL. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) And once again.....what's up with Marek Date: 23 Apr 2001 18:36:46 EDT > Ditch X asks: > > Who's Mike Dutton and what did he do again? Dutton has offered some pretty decent CDRs and a 3 hour video of KLF stuff for sale a few times to the list with varying degrees of success. I was able to get two cds out of him but he went AWOL on numbers 3/4. Liekwise, some were able to get videos out of him, some didn't. I still maintain that he didn't *intend* to rip people off (like some guy who offered to make t-shirts for the list, and another who offered to make copies of the White Room Movie) but was just a lazy git who got bored with making the discs and stopped. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cabrera Subject: (klf) Big Audio Dynamite (slightly OT) Date: 23 Apr 2001 23:36:58 -0400 this is slightly off-topic I think, but I'll let you all be the judges. I was looking at a 12" of "The Globe" by B.A.D. and there's a mix by the orb clocking in at 9:22. But the publisher is listed as The Voice Of London (BMI), but I was kind of under the impression that they were on a different label with some clever name like the other Cauty/Drummond project (KLF in case it wasn't clear what I was implying). Anyway I don't know if there's really any question, I just felt like throwing it out there because I had no idea I owned anything related to the boys. But then again, I don't know what the connection between B& J and The Orb really is, (if there IS a connection). Anyway this came out in '91, so I assume it was pretty early on in KLF history if there's a connection at all. Anyway, sorry to have rambled on about nothing. Daniel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Subject: Re: (klf) Big Audio Dynamite (slightly OT) Date: 24 Apr 2001 15:47:00 +1000 Daniel Cabrera wrote: > > this is slightly off-topic I think, but I'll let you all be the judges. > I was looking at a 12" of "The Globe" by B.A.D. and there's a mix by the > orb clocking in at 9:22. But the publisher is listed as The Voice Of > London (BMI), but I was kind of under the impression that they were on a > different label with some clever name like the other Cauty/Drummond > project (KLF in case it wasn't clear what I was implying). The Voice Of London was Mick Jones' then publishing designee. Because he wrote the song. And performed it. > Anyway I > don't know if there's really any question, I just felt like throwing it > out there because I had no idea I owned anything related to the boys. > But then again, I don't know what the connection between B& J and The > Orb really is, (if there IS a connection). Jimmy was in the first line-up of the Orb. > Anyway this came out in '91, > so I assume it was pretty early on in KLF history if there's a > connection at all. The KLF retired early in 1992. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rev. Erik C Elmshauser D.D." Subject: (klf) Hello again Date: 24 Apr 2001 00:20:18 -0700 Hi everybody. I am back on the list. I was off for the last 9 months because I was moving and haven't had time for it. I don't really have time now but I had to get back on the list. Just wanted to say hi to everybody. --Erik Rev. Dr. Erik C. Elmshauser D.D. Driven by Passion, Stomped by Screaming girls, Master of none # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: (klf) KLF's lawyer Date: 24 Apr 2001 13:18:13 +0200 Hi, i can remember that someone got contact with Bill&Jimmy's Lawyer as there was this thing with Wanda D and here "KLF"-Livetour. Has somebody the mailadress, adress or telephone number of their lawyer? If yes, please send it to me private and not to the list.... Thanx in advance Theee Foooorrrdddd Tiiimmmeeeellloooorrrrddddd # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: (klf) God save the KLF mailinglist.....or is it just a boring Date: 24 Apr 2001 13:40:39 +0200 Hi to ALL mailinglistmembers, what the fuck is going on with this list....!?!? I can remember when i joined the list last year there were ten up to twenty mails a day... Hot discussions, some guys wanted to start different projects... And what is it now today? It's a lucky day when there are five mails a day... I often tried to start a discussion...about the etrain, about the bootlegs, about different other things, hey, there are so many members out there, why cant they discuss and change their opinions about the things that we are talking here? Or are you just out there, reading the mails, leeching the infos and don't want to share them with us? Is it time to say OVER AND OUT for the list? It seems that the list consists only from 10 or 15 people that are regular posting threads...and the others? I think there are more the only 15 people on this or am I completely wrong? Even the poppingup of KLF006T did not really start some mail traffic on the list. But i know that the people who were interested in that discussion posted mails between them and not on the list! Why not on the list? Just a few things i had to say.... Ford # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c-Row Subject: Re: (klf) God save the KLF mailinglist.....or is it just a boring place!?! Date: 24 Apr 2001 13:45:26 +0200 Nothing to add to FordTimelordīs posting... since I joined this place, the mails got fewer and fewer every month. There were virtually no real comments about 006T on ebay. No reactions to the confirmed sighting of the E-Train white label pressing. Iīm not even sure if everyone knows that Arista reissued the White Room 2CD last year and itīs still available in shops, this time with a "back-inlay" instead of the cover of J&A... The Kompetition set some spirits alive, but the general feedback from the list or on the discussion board was nearly none. Did all the members Go To Sleep ? cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xavier Ehret" Subject: RE: (klf) God save the KLF mailinglist.....or is it just a boring place!?! Date: 24 Apr 2001 14:09:37 +0200 Got to agree, i several times tried to launch a discussion on the origin and meaning of the Waiting for the rights of Mu CD a while ago, but each time it failed to generate any interest=2E Instead we got a long thread on the remixes by fans= , while certainly interesting for those who have musical talent, made me less than enthusiastic when there are so many questions out there that still need to be aswered=2E I didnt even bother posting the $1300+ price that the 006LP fetched on Ebay because i frankly thought the list didnt care talking about these things anymore=2E There are also loads of new stuff not in the discog that ive found over here in France that id love to share, but is there anyone out there listening ? Cheers Xav -----Message d'origine----- De : owner-klf@lists=2Exmission=2Ecom [mailto:owner-klf@lists=2Exmission=2Ecom]De la part de c-Row Envoy=E9 : mardi 24 avril 2001 13:45 =C0 : KLF Mailing List Objet : Re: (klf) God save the KLF mailinglist=2E=2E=2E=2E=2Eor is it just a boring place!?! Nothing to add to FordTimelord=B4s posting=2E=2E=2E since I joined this plac= e, the mails got fewer and fewer every month=2E There were virtually no real comments about 006T on ebay=2E No reactions to the confirmed sighting of the E-Train white label pressing=2E I=B4m not even sure if everyone knows that Arista reissued the White Room 2CD last year and it=B4s still available in shops, this time with a "back-inlay" instead of the cover of J&A=2E=2E=2E The Kompetition set some spirits alive, but the general feedback from the list or on the discussion board was nearly none=2E Did all the members Go To Sleep ? cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists=2Exmission=2Ecom=2E # To post, email klf@lists=2Exmission=2Ecom; replies go to original sender= =2E # KLF discography: http://www=2Eswcp=2Ecom/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: Re: (klf) God save the KLF mailinglist.....or is it just a Date: 24 Apr 2001 14:16:08 +0200 If you reply to a mail from the mailinglist you send your answer only to the original writer of the mail and not to the list.... perhaps thats the thing why there is so many traffic on the list!?!?! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: RE: (klf) God save the KLF mailinglist.....or is it just a Date: 24 Apr 2001 14:18:42 +0200 > >Got to agree, > >i several times tried to launch a discussion on the origin and meaning of >the Waiting for the rights of Mu CD a while ago, but each time it failed to >generate any interest. I see I'm not the only one.... >Instead we got a long thread on the remixes by fans, >while certainly interesting for those who have musical talent, made me less >than enthusiastic when there are so many questions out there that still need >to be aswered. But nobody wanted to vote for the best track......and only a few asked me, who really was the winner of the Kompetition >There are also loads of new stuff not in the discog that ive found over here >in France that id love to share, but is there anyone out there listening ? I'm interested, let me (us???) hear... Cheers Ford # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c-Row Subject: RE: (klf) God save the KLF mailinglist.....or is it just a boring place!?! Date: 24 Apr 2001 14:17:17 +0200 >i several times tried to launch a discussion on the origin and meaning of >the Waiting for the rights of Mu CD a while ago, but each time it failed to >generate any interest. All I can say to this topic is that it was produced by Echo Beach (www.echobeach.de) and itīs now deleted. At least the shopīs owner told us so... that reminds me... hey, since I already talked to some of the Communicators now, I could ask the guy at Echo how the bootleg was made... good idea. ;-) >There are also loads of new stuff not in the discog that ive found over here >in France that id love to share, but is there anyone out there listening ? FordTimelord asked the list some time ago to send him their additions to the discography. There werenīt that many replies. Most of the new stuff has been sent to KLF Online so they can add the new things to the discography. cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) God save the KLF mailinglist.....or is it just a boring Date: 24 Apr 2001 13:23:14 +0100 I guess that I count myself as an interested party who has been on the list (OK principally as a lurker rather than an active poster) for a little over two years. I also think that I might be one of the people who is guilty of turning the list into what it is currently - I seem to spend more time reading the posts than actually making any myself. This isn't an active decision, I guess I just don't feel that I have anything really interesting to add to the discussions (possibly true, possibly my just thinking that I don't really know, and contribute, as much about the KLF, and it's various incarnations, than I actually do). The discussions about the various, recently released, bootlegs (1987 etc) and the differences between them is great, as are the posts about the "discoveries" of new material and mixes, and projects that B&J, and various hangers-on, are now involved in, are great. Recently they just seem to have lacked any real substance. I'll shut up now and go and get my lunch...... Craig # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) My opinion Date: 24 Apr 2001 08:23:00 EDT I contribute where I can, but don't know alot about the history behind the actual records to be of much real help. As for KLF006T, I should imagine, as i'm on the list and I bought this record, messages where kept off the list to stop me from reading stuff that could have offended me (i'm guessing) Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xavier Ehret" Subject: RE: (klf) My opinion Date: 24 Apr 2001 14:36:14 +0200 Well, its beyond me why anyone would critices someone from spending his hard earned money on anything that makes him a happy bunny. I think its great you managed to buy KLF 006 for $1300.... For one, youve probably set a new KLF World Record. For two, the auction confirms that a LOT of people are still interested by the KLF, and for three, the existence of this a record is now proven. Hope you enjoy the record !! :) Cheers Xav -----Message d'origine----- De : owner-klf@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-klf@lists.xmission.com]De la part de Milestighe@aol.com Envoye : mardi 24 avril 2001 14:23 A : klf@lists.xmission.com Objet : (klf) My opinion I contribute where I can, but don't know alot about the history behind the actual records to be of much real help. As for KLF006T, I should imagine, as i'm on the list and I bought this record, messages where kept off the list to stop me from reading stuff that could have offended me (i'm guessing) Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Timo Toivonen" Subject: Re: (klf) who really was the winner of the Kompetition? Date: 24 Nov 2001 16:02:53 +0200 On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 14:18:42 +0200 Ford Timelord wrote: > But nobody wanted to vote for the best track......and only a few asked > me, who really was the winner of the Kompetition Who was it then? Send complete results to the list please (anyone who knows may send'em. It does not have to be Ford necessarily). About voting: I heard of the Kompetition after voting deadline was gone... (too new to the list?!) ps. Someone complained about replies going to senders instead of list. I think it is a shame too. This reply went first just to Ford while I was intending it for the list. -- . ..-[ timo.toivonen@iki.fi | http://www.iki.fi/stibe/ ]-.. . "War does not determine who is right - only who is left." Bertrand Russell # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Haslock Subject: RE: (klf) God save the KLF mailinglist.....or is it just a boring Date: 24 Apr 2001 14:39:03 +0100 I too don't contribute much because I don't feel like I have as much knowledge as the majority of people on the list seem to. However, I do enjoy reading the input, and through doing so am now much more knowledgeable than I was, certainly in comparison to my friends. As a result of the list: I went out and bought the bootleg/release KLF008R. I was really pleased as it features what was one of my favourite pieces from Chill Out. I've now seen the white room - priorly didn't even know it actually physically existed. A little off track, but hell, lack of content complaints and all that: When I travelled the world a few years ago the most played tape I had was ChillOut with Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld on the flip side. Not surprisingly, this tape played a part in some of the most vivid memories I have. Probably the most memorable was when I was in the Whitsunday Islands off the Queensland coast in Oz (near barrier reef). I was lying on the deck of a large yacht with about 12 other people looking at the stars. The track playing was the Orb one where they sample the Astronaut saying "Huston, we've got a great view of the earth here". All of a sudden a rectangular shaped object that made no noise and had a faint outline of light around its perimeter flew directly overhead and disappeared behind a a large bank of clouds. At the time I can remember everyone just being blown away, not believing what they'd seen. The captain, sensing the opportunity to spin a yarn, said the thing was probably about 2 times the size of a football pitch judging from the height of the cloud. Despite what we did or did not see it was a trully magically experience that I will always remember. I was just wondering if anyone else has had any mad experiences / or has vivid memories whilst listening to any KLF or even Orb. I did take my first 'pink floyd' whilst listening to the same tape, but thats another story (;-) Long live the list. regards Rich p.s. I was too late to vote, but Britney joins the Jams was inspired. Even better than the Spice Girls/Nine Inch Nails reworking I've recently heard. "I wanna..I wanna....I wanna.......F**K you like an animal" **************************************************************************** LOGICSCOPE REALISATIONS LTD, 64 Great Eastern St, London EC2A 3QR The information contained in this document is intended only for the addressee.It may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material.You may not review, retransmit, disseminate, publish or otherwise use or rely on the information in this document unless you are its intended recipient.If you have received this document in error, Please contact the sender and delete all copies of this material. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Big Audio Dynamite (slightly OT) Date: 24 Apr 2001 10:16:51 EDT In a message dated 24/04/01 04:29:23 GMT Daylight Time, s2dwcabr@atlas.vcu.edu writes: > But then again, I don't know what the connection between B& J and The > Orb really is, (if there IS a connection). The connection with the KLF and the Orb is that one of them (Bill I think) used to be with The Orb and left to form The KLF > Anyway this came out in '91, > so I assume it was pretty early on in KLF history if there's a > connection at all. Pretty early in the KLF Anthology? The KLF stopped recording in '92 (Brit Awards 92 to be precise) so it was actually pretty late (The KLF reigned from 1988 to 1992, under that time they changed there names many times, about 88-90 they were known as The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu or The JAMMs, then during about 90 the were known as The Timelords then from the end of '90 to '92 they were known as The KLF (after that they became The K Foundation and 2K and K2 Plant Hire, but if you were meaning just as The KLF then it was about in the middle of the history of The KLF) The K, the L, the F, and the ology.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: (klf) God save the (KLF) mailinglist.....or is it just a boring place!?! Date: 24 Apr 2001 16:20:26 +0200 Hey all, what really struck me is that a lot of the "surviving" people on this list are German fans. Just take Ford, C-Row, Me (Kuta), Torsten, Erik... and I always thought Germany would be a tiny little place in the whole wide world that was sooooo small. Are there still any real fans out there? I mean people who stop their cars right on the main traffic lane just to enjoy the "23" on a public clock while driving by? Anyone who dreams about Pyramid Blasters and how you can best transform them to CorelDRAW's CDR format so that you can print it whenever you want in the best quality you can get? I do. Some time ago I sent a mail about Jimmy's Black Star Liner Remix that I had found - NO MORE than two people asked me if they could get a copy. No one cares about the paintings that Jimmy's doing right now! What do they look like? The same with eBay's 006T. There ARE real fans out there who are willing to pay §1 500 for a 12", so the others please wake up! (Don't get me wrong: I don't want everyone to buy records for prices like this - it was just an example... ;) I still am happy when I am on holiday in the Netherlands and find "1-2-1" as a CD-Single in some small and ugly record shop for one dollar! The problem is that I only live in Germany and not in the UK, for instance. I have to take what I can get. No record shops selling rare KLF items, no one knowing who the KLF have been at all! I'd love to live in the UK and be able to get contacts. The only thing I can tell you all is that KLF Online is about to get updated in some time and that there will be lots of new information coming. Please, let us Keep Looking Forward. Cheers, (a slightly frustrated) Danny --- DJ Kuta, KLF Online (www.klf.de) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (klf) experiences\vivid memories Date: 24 Apr 2001 15:37:54 +0100 >When I travelled the world a few years ago the most played >tape I had was ChillOut with Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld >on the flip side..... Fascinating story! By sheer coincidence, I have a tape with precisely the same LPs on....I dont suppose that is such a coincidence after all. I was wandering around the swiss alps once, listening to that tape. Every time I got to the point on either LP where there was a big sweeping synth sound or impressive sample, I would come across a beautful new view to gasp at. it was quite uncanny, the timing of it. I wasnt intoxicated at all, but I started to feel slightly spooked, almost convinced myself that the tape was a perfectly in time soundtrack to the walk I was having. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: Re: (klf) experiences\vivid memories Date: 24 Apr 2001 17:24:24 +0200 At 15:37 24.04.01 +0100, you wrote: > >When I travelled the world a few years ago the most played > >tape I had was ChillOut with Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld > >on the flip side..... > > >Fascinating story! By sheer coincidence, I have a tape with precisely the >same LPs on....I dont suppose that is such a coincidence after all. Me too, I listened to it every morning at 5:30 when i travelled by train from my home town to Mannheim/Germany where i did my studies. I would bet that there are 20 other guys, that had this on cassette and listened to it during travels... (20 other guys, Howard, Richard and I, that would make 23 persons...... :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) experiences\vivid memories Date: 24 Apr 2001 16:39:39 +0100 When I was at college I used to have a great deal of difficulty waking up (no surprises there...) - due to the fact that a clock radio wasn't loud enough to wake me. To solve this problem I put my hi-fi on a timer switch so that it came on to wake me up. I almost always used the same track (WTIL LP Mix) VERY loud (as the people in the rooms around me discovered). Numerous complaints were made - I got a couple of letters from my college warning me about the volume - and a "sound test" was performed by the college principal to determine whether it was too loud or not. My innocence was assured - I discovered that my principal was a closet KLF fan....... Craig! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Parker Subject: (klf) JAMSLP10 Last Train Date: 24 Apr 2001 17:01:09 +0100 Hello List I was just about to try and get a copy of this re-release/bootleg of Last train (KLF008r) but all i could find on HMV's web-site was a Last Train LP (JAMSLP10). www.hmv.co.uk What is this? Are they the same? If not anyone know any on-line ordering places for KLF008R? Juno www.juno.co.uk appears to have sold out. RE God Save the list. The list may not be a hot bed of talk, but then to still be talking about releases that are nearing or over ten years old is something in itself. There is only so much that can be said. 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Please note that any views expressed in this email may be those of the originator and do not necessarily reflect those of this organisation. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Maarten" Subject: Fw: (klf) My opinion Date: 24 Apr 2001 18:48:00 +0200 > I contribute where I can, but don't know alot about the history behind the > actual records to be of much real help. As for KLF006T, I should imagine, as > i'm on the list and I bought this record, messages where kept off the list to > stop me > from reading stuff that could have offended me (i'm guessing) > > Miles Hmmz... It;s definately *not* that since you are on this list that I kept off any messages about that 006T. (Thought I was the one who posted that about 006T, but thats sumtn else...) I have had a lot of contact with c-Row about 006T because he and I were bidding on this item. You were there much later, so it's not true that we kept off information. You could have seen who the people were who were bidding onto the item and you could have given them an email... That's how I found out c-Row was the other lad... About my klf memories... I actually had my first mushroom trip on Chill Out :)) Geez, that really was worth the trip. Remembered lying on a couch with my eyes staring at the ceiling seeing nothing but just nice colours. During that trip I never saw nor felt anything bad. I really Chilled Out. Last but not least... I was just asking myself how many people from The Netherlands are on this list. I know Wouter is also Dutch. Who's next? Maarten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "happy consumer!" Subject: (klf) CAR CRASH PAINTINGS Date: 24 Apr 2001 10:01:28 -0700 > I mean people who stop their cars >right on the main traffic lane just to enjoy the "23" on a public clock >while driving by? keepin it real haha http://www.aux2.cx/y66.html > No one >cares about the paintings that Jimmy's doing right now! What do they look >like? I'd love to know. the car crash theme appears alot through out their career. i think there may be even a reference to it as far back as on the brilliant 12in " its a mans mans mans world. maybe a b side or something. then again in the stadium house version of the 3am vid, the original & lenny dee remix of build a fire has it , bill says something about a "crashed out car" i think. then theres the cape wrath thing, where they crash a car against the rocks and sea. sort of seems to be the other side of driving up the mountain into the snow in the white room. in the beginning they symbolically approach the mountain and climb up it, to the white room and stardom and the illuminati's world of pop music, then , after the contracts are made, they do their job, become pop stars, then liberate themselves from the contract [do they?] by burning the fruits of the contract, and deleting the masters. and the car comes crashing back down on the cliffs of cape wrath. and then thats it for 23 years. so in that silence, the mystery can continue. the legend can live on. so, yes, i'd love to see those paintings. -happyconsumer Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - advertisement - - - - - - Limited Time Offer: FREE Products! Pay only shipping and handling. Get FREE Software, CDR's, Cellular Accessories, Videos, DVD's, Music, Injet Refills and much more. Only when you click here now - - > http://www.free-irewards.com/cgi-bin/bmb2 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) God save the KLF mailinglist.....or is it just a boring place!?! Date: 24 Apr 2001 18:59:48 +0100 > what the fuck is going on with this list....!?!? > I can remember when i joined the list last year there were ten up > to twenty mails a day... > Hot discussions, some guys wanted to start different projects... I agree that things have quietened down a bit, and that is a pity. But don't forget, over the last few years there's been some activity from Bill and Jimmy to talk about too. Back as far as 1997 there was all the 2K, K2 Plant Hire and Millennium Fucking going on. After that died down, Jimmy started his new series of Scourge of the Earth remixes; Bill's published books; Jimmy and Guy Pratt made a single; Bill's biog came out etc etc. But currently, what goes on? That's not to say we shouldn't find something to discuss, but it never hurts having something kickstarted by some real event/release... Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) God save the (KLF) mailinglist.....or is it just a boring place!?! Date: 24 Apr 2001 14:21:48 EDT In a message dated 24/04/01 15:19:48 GMT Daylight Time, djkuta@klf.de writes: > The problem is that I only live in Germany and not in the UK, for instance. > I have to take what I can get. No record shops selling rare KLF items, no > one knowing who the KLF have been at all! I'd love to live in the UK and be > able to get contacts. > What contacts in the UK? I live in the UK and there is no information round here about The KLF anymore. The only thing that is there to remind people of there presence is an empty slot in the HMV rock section that says "The KLF/The Justified Anc ients of Mu Mu/ The Timelo rds" (printed just like that) It is on some occasions filled with The White Room or The History of the JAMMs or It's Grim Up North or The Man or Chill Out but finding other stuff on The KLF is very hard (I wouldn't mind getting my mits on a couple of bootlegs of some of there early work like 1987 even in MP3 format, I did find Queen & I and Next on Napster a while ago.) BTW - I remember a couple of years ago on the list someone put up a website that contained "The Black Room" (or at least what B&J managed to finish) and it sounded like someone just playing a load of guitars and mixing some samples of 3AM Eternal in with it. Did anyone confirm whether this was genuine The KLF or was this someone just messing around with MP3s, sound samples and guitars? I've still got the MP3's # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: (klf) Re: God save the KLF list, etc. Date: 24 Apr 2001 19:20:55 +0100 (BST) As somebody who's been on this list almost continually for about five years (with a one year break in the middle), have to disagree with some of today's comments regarding the list being "dead" or "rubbish". Key reasoning: If there's nothing to say, say nothing. The reason I didn't comment on the KLF 006 thingy on eBay? Because I have no information on it, had nothing to add to what was being said. The reason I didn't add anything to the Waiting For The Sounds Of Mu discussion? Because nothing new was being added to discussion that's happened on this list before. There was no new information and I don't see the point in endlessly repeating old information. The reason I didn't e-mail asking for a coup of that Black Star Liner Cauty remix? Because I don't need a copy. I suspect there might be quite a lot of people on the list who have got roughly the same reasoning as me. It's not a sin to lurk for a while on a list if you've got nothing to add to any current discussions, and no new relevant discussions to add. And importantly, if there's nothing KLF-semi-relevant to say, then personally I'd _rather_ that this list goes quiet, and revives when there's something interesting to say, rather than just filling up with regurgitated crap. In my opinion. Oh look! The ladder propped up against the crooked tree in my garden makes the shape of a K. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Robinson Subject: Re: (klf) God save the KLF mailinglist.....or is it just a boring Date: 24 Apr 2001 19:39:44 +0100 Simon Coward wrote: > ...But currently, what goes on? Abandon all Art flyers appearing, the Foundry, X S X on Radio 1, the existence of Love Trance 12, the 4th M25 spin and the booleg of 008T with possible new tracks. Let's discuss all the above! If anyone can answer these questions it would be a good start or 7.... Who is behnd the flyers in Liverpool, why and what do they look like? Who is showing films at the Foundry film festival? What do the legendarily non-existent X S X sound like? What is on the love trance 12? Is it the MP3 we heard years ago? Who went on the Spin? What is on the 008T boot? - Andy_R # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cabrera Subject: Re: (klf) who really was the winner of the Kompetition? Date: 24 Apr 2001 15:42:19 -0400 And speaking of the kompetition, though I know it's too late to try this on this kompetition, I've an idea that's not even remotely original on how to judge the kompetition tracks. Instead of voting, what if we used The Manual? I mean, it seems somehow appropriate (minus the 3.5 minute rule, since that would severely limit the number of entries that would be valid, though I guess if we instated that before hand people could know their entries had to be under 3.5 minutes, or there could be two categories, one for 7" singles and one for extended or 12" mixes... anyway, time to close this parenthesis) Actually, we could combine voting and the standards set by the Manual. ... Actually I need to reread that section, because all I can remember is the part about the groove. So basically we'd take the 5 golden rules of pop (or however many there are, I've already shown I'm not good with numbers and dates on this list) and judge the songs accordingly. Granted, unless you come up with new lyrics we'd have to throw that particular qualifier out too... ok, well maybe this wouldn't work, but if anyone else thinks we could work this into it, at least it's kind of keeping alive an ideal or conecpt that the KLF started way back in 19xx, (whenever that book was published, I'm not going to guess cause I don't know) so if this sounds good to anyone else, I'd love to hear any pros or cons. Peace, Daniel P.S. If you reply to all, it goes out to the list. Granted someone's going to get two copies, but it's really not that much of a chore to delete a double... though I'm sure I'll prove myself the hypocrite later on... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: Re: (klf) God save the (KLF) mailinglist.....or is it just a boring place!?! Date: 24 Apr 2001 23:00:20 +0200 > What contacts in the UK? > It is on some occasions filled with The White Room or The History of the > JAMMs or It's Grim Up North or The Man or Chill Out but finding other stuff > on The KLF is very hard On my first trip to London I went into a record store (Sister Ray I think) and it was the first time I saw one of these "mysterious" generic sleeve records of the JAMs. No way to see them in germany anywhere. On my second trip I found an original "1987" lp. When I asked my local record dealer in germany about all the records mention in the inlay of the "White Room" lp (SPACE, 1987, WHTJ, Shag Times...) he said they were all fakes and don't exist. Another time I found the "Ultra Rare Trax" cd. On another trip I went into a HMW and found "1987" and "Chill Out" bootlegs en mass. UK (or at least London) is a heaven for KLF fans isn't it? -- Torsten Pattberg www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: Re: (klf) experiences\vivid memories Date: 24 Apr 2001 22:54:49 +0200 When a friend of mine became 18 (in summer 1991) we painted a big KLF logo on the front of his car, put the "White Room" tape in the Alpine and drove through our town the hole day... Amd we listened to this tape the whole summer long... -- Torsten Pattberg www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cabrera Subject: (klf) (KLF) 3 AM: Eternal dub? Date: 24 Apr 2001 20:28:57 -0400 Just curious here. I noticed there's a dub of both J&A (anti acapella (how clever)) and LTTT (Iron Horse), (and isn't January, WTIL a dub of America WTIL?) granted neither is really an exact instrumental version of the vocal, but I was wondering if 3 AM Eternal (Live at the SSL) had a pseudo dub version. By which I mean a dub that actually sounds like 3 AM eternal minus the vocals, as opposed to the wayward dub, which I'm still trying to figure out... I guess I have the same question for WTIL although there wouldn't be much left without the vocals. But anyway, just curious if anyone knows, though I think I have all the versions on the discography, so I guess I'd have heard it already if there was. Thanks Daniel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: RE: (klf) My opinion Date: 25 Apr 2001 01:27:48 and for three, the existence >of this a record is now proven. > That's debatable. All that's proven is that *a* record exists, and I'm only sayig that because of the photos, which coule be faked as well. I wouldn't be surprised if someone ran into B or J at a show or party or something and was told the track was never even recorded, which was my theory until this record showed up. I still think there is at least a %50 chance this thing is fake. Even by KLF standards this thing is stupidly rare. I must say though I'd love to hear the track. Fans of late 80s house should be able to take a good guess as to it's authenticity...but just a guess. >Hope you enjoy the record !! :) Yeah, I hope so too. Chad Gombosi Member SCP www.scponline.net Chad's Game Music Page www.chadsgamemusic.com MP3.com page: www.mp3.com/signofzeta "Let me explain a couple of things. Time is short. That's the first thing. For the weasel, Time is a weasel. For the hero, Time is heroic. For the whore, Time is just another trick. If you're gentle, your Time is gentle. If you're in a hurry, Time flies. Time is a servant, if you are its master. Time is your god, if you are its dog. We are the creators of Time, the victims of Time, and the killers of Time. Time is timeless. That's the second thing. You are the clock, Cassiel." Emit - Far Away So Close _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) who really was the winner of the Kompetition? Date: 25 Apr 2001 01:58:21 >And speaking of the kompetition, though I know it's too late to try this on >this kompetition, I've an idea that's not even remotely original on how to >judge the kompetition tracks. Instead of voting, what if we used The >Manual? That might be good if the people that entered actually knew about it before hand and made the tracks that way, but as it stands virtually all the Komp tracks would flunk by The Manual standards. Most of KLF's official releases would too, such as IGUN Part One (my fave), anything on Chill Out, and almost every version of WTIL. The Manual tells you how to make a hit record in the 80s that actually really really sucks, not how to make good, or interesting music. I don't think I could get around to downloading 20 or 30 tracks of the quality of Gary Joins the Jams. Chad Gombosi Member SCP www.scponline.net Chad's Game Music Page www.chadsgamemusic.com MP3.com page: www.mp3.com/signofzeta "Let me explain a couple of things. Time is short. That's the first thing. For the weasel, Time is a weasel. For the hero, Time is heroic. For the whore, Time is just another trick. If you're gentle, your Time is gentle. If you're in a hurry, Time flies. Time is a servant, if you are its master. Time is your god, if you are its dog. We are the creators of Time, the victims of Time, and the killers of Time. Time is timeless. That's the second thing. You are the clock, Cassiel." Emit - Far Away So Close _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) (KLF) 3 AM: Eternal dub? Date: 25 Apr 2001 02:29:59 EDT > Just curious here. I noticed there's a dub of both J&A (anti acapella > (how clever)) and LTTT (Iron Horse), (and isn't January, WTIL a dub of > America WTIL?) I wouldn't call them 'dub' mixes, but instrumental/remixes/re-edits maybe. > granted neither is really an exact instrumental version > of the vocal, but I was wondering if 3 AM Eternal (Live at the SSL) had > a pseudo dub version. No, at least not that has ever surfaced. Break for Love might be closest to it. -paul Currently in rotation: Fatboy Slim - Halfway Between the Gutter and the Stars / various KLF www.sayhername.com -- Too Much Joy Official Website Tell your friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) My opinion Date: 25 Apr 2001 02:39:42 EDT > That's debatable. All that's proven is that *a* record exists, and I'm only > sayig that because of the photos, which coule be faked as well. I wouldn't [...] > record showed up. I still think there is at least a %50 chance this thing is > fake. Even by KLF standards this thing is stupidly rare. > I must say though I'd love to hear the track. Fans of late 80s house should > be able to take a good guess as to it's authenticity...but just a guess. In my discussion with the seller, and I think he eventually posted the info on his ebay ad, the track is the same as the mp3 which surfaced a while back. This track specifically mentions the KLF ("have left the building"). For this to have been faked, it would have meant writing/creating the track, getting a hold of labels/sleeves, and pressing them up professionally, and being close enough to the manufacture to have them duplicate other Pure Trance issues to the letter. It sounds as if the quality of the vinyl (weight, etc) mirrors the other PT releases. That all would take a lot of effort. I know if I was going to be doing this I'd at least make up a couple hundred (not erm, 5) and set about making a little money for myself. Deep Shit wasn't known to have exisited until someone sent me a tape of it. I'm reasonably certain that this is the real deal. -paul Currently in rotation: Fatboy Slim - Halfway Between the Gutter and the Stars / various KLF www.sayhername.com -- Too Much Joy Official Website Tell your friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c-Row Subject: Re: (klf) (KLF) 3 AM: Eternal dub? Date: 25 Apr 2001 08:49:03 +0200 >> Just curious here. I noticed there's a dub of both J&A (anti acapella >> (how clever)) and LTTT (Iron Horse), (and isn't January, WTIL a dub of >> America WTIL?) > >I wouldn't call them 'dub' mixes, but instrumental/remixes/re-edits maybe. Well, the J&A mix is a dub mix, since there are virtually no vocals in it (except Scott Piering in the break down section). At least thatīs what I call dub. LTTT and January... they lack most of the vocals, and you could definitively create a "dub" mix out of them (I wonder why no one tried something like that for the Komp) but in their actual state, I agree with you. Anyway, I would add the benio mix to this short list. Just my opinion. >> granted neither is really an exact instrumental version >> of the vocal, but I was wondering if 3 AM Eternal (Live at the SSL) had >> a pseudo dub version. > >No, at least not that has ever surfaced. Break for Love might be closest to >it. There wouldnīt be much left without the vocals... 3:30 minutes of beats, the strange guitar noise and some "eteeeeernaaaaal" choir. Doesnīt sound too exciting. IGUN doesnīt have a dub mix, too. Although with the 10 minute edit, you could easily recreate something that would come quite close to that. Oh, so many ideas, so less time... :-) cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rev. Erik C Elmshauser D.D." Subject: (klf) God save the (KLF) mailinglist.....or is it just a Date: 24 Apr 2001 23:57:03 -0700 At 12:24 PM 4/24/2001 -0600, you wrote: >Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:20:26 +0200 >From: "Dan Kuta" >Subject: (klf) God save the (KLF) mailinglist.....or is it just a >boring place!?! > >The problem is that I only live in Germany and not in the UK, for instance. >I have to take what I can get. No record shops selling rare KLF items, no >one knowing who the KLF have been at all! I'd love to live in the UK and be >able to get contacts. well, I am on the digest to control how much mail I get every day (which is a lot) so I am a little slow to reply. If you think being in Europe makes it hard to find KLF stuff, try being an American. I vividly remember seeing 3am on MTV years ago, but it's a rare day that i meet anybody in the states that know who the KLF are or even remembers ever hearing them, or of them before. and I have been poor recently so buying up rare and costly LPs and CDs is not in my budget. I was a lurker mostly when i was on the list last year, and I just have gotten back on it to find people griping about it failing. that's no good. I am no world leading authority on the KLF, but i have read illuminatus! and I have a collection of CDs and MP3s. I just can't help but have a private moment of silence out of respect for bill and jimmy whenever I think of them. the world needs more people like them. people that are willing to make the personal sacrifices it takes to bring truly inspired art into the world. I think that there are a lot of things that we could talk about on this list that are more than just a comparison of who has the best database of KLF releases. I wish i knew one album number from another but unless I am looking at one I am clueless. I use album names and track titles. however that does not stop me from being interested in the music, and the attitude. In the immortal words of negativland, "copyright infringement is your best entertainment value". this list could be used to talk about things related to the KLF indirectly, such as random acts of performance art around the world. and people bending and breaking kopyright in new and exciting ways. there are a million things for us to do. I just thing that if we are inspired by the KLF then we are likely to be that type of people that will not sit around stroking our record collections, but get out and make a difference in the world. do something crazy that people will enjoy. and we can talk about it here. we can feed off of each other and be a group of people that understand the KLF mind set. go out and do it. really the funniest thing I can think of would be for 10-20 people to all start small record companies in separate places around the world and release music by groups calling them self the KLF. every release would be totally different, and unrelated except that the band name would be the same and we would all be on this list. it's the sort of prank that would go unnoticed till one of us gets it big and the rest of us get to sue over the name, or something. but large collections of humans make a great toy. lets play with them. --Erik Rev. Dr. Erik C. Elmshauser D.D. Driven by Passion, Stomped by Screaming girls, Master of none # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c-Row Subject: Re: (klf) My opinion Date: 25 Apr 2001 08:57:28 +0200 >I'm reasonably certain that this is the real deal. What we gathered during the week lead me to the following opinion on 006T... The vinyl is as thick as the other PT releases. Former bootlegs used to be much thinner than the original releases. Now, all PT were pressed by Adrenalin (not sure about 008R), so you could easily say if it is at least a genuine pressing. The run out groove has the etched-out Adrenalin text on it, but itīs a fact (well, at least at the moment... times can change facts - just look at E-Train) that there are no "real" pressed issues with the labels directly pressed on them. I think that the 12" from ebay had been at least once at Adrenalin, where they pressed it. Donīt know wether without any labels or just whitelabel. Later, some guy at R.A.G. (or whatever it reads) used some of the printed labels/sleeves and put them on the pressed 12". I think that the tracks on it are the real ones, but the vinyl might just be a disguised "promo". What wouldnīt make it less valuable, though... ;-) cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Virtanen Mikko Subject: RE: (klf) who really was the winner of the Kompetition? Date: 25 Apr 2001 09:59:23 +0300 >> But nobody wanted to vote for the best track......and only a few asked >> me, who really was the winner of the Kompetition >Who was it then? Send complete results to the list please (anyone who >knows may send'em. It does not have to be Ford necessarily). My band made a remix and we voted, so I want to know too. We might even have won... .mikkov # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Virtanen Mikko Subject: RE: (klf) God save the KLF mailinglist.....or is it just a boring Date: 25 Apr 2001 10:04:51 +0300 =20 >No reactions to the confirmed sighting of the E-Train white label >pressing. I=B4m not even sure if everyone knows that. At least I didn't know. Could you tell some more about this? .mikkov # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c-Row Subject: RE: (klf) God save the KLF mailinglist.....or is it just a boring place!?! Date: 25 Apr 2001 09:14:14 +0200 >>No reactions to the confirmed sighting of the E-Train white label >>pressing. Iīm not even sure if everyone knows that. > >At least I didn't know. Could you tell some more about this? As we know from the discography, E-Train remains unreleased in its final state. I have been in contact with a guy from Germany who sold me big parts of his (k)ollection. He reported that Energy-Music (www.energy-music.co.uk) definitively sold a while label pressing of E-Train back in 1993. Donīt know for how much it went (less than 006T on ebay), and Energy doesnīt give any infos about the buyer of course. This guy wanted to buy it, but someone from UK was a bit faster than him. So what is known is that E-Train is somewhere in the UK now. As long as the buyer didnīt sell it again. I wonder if heīs on the list... donīt think so, but you can never be sure. Maybe "someone" could add this info to the discography... ;-) cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c-Row Subject: (klf) E-Train (was: boring mailing list?) Date: 25 Apr 2001 09:41:31 +0200 >Wouldnt the E-Train track be the same as the LTTT LP Remix on the european >release of the European White Room ? Or smthg thats been subsequently >released ? Donīt think so. The most accurate comparison would be the normal pure trance mix. If you listen to the White Room movie (somewhere between 20:00 and 25:00) you can hear something which is supposed to be a sound bit of E-Train. Or the Last Train-lines from Chill Out. They are definitevly NOT the original pure trance mix from 008R, nor are they taken from the lp remix. >I know the title is different, but theres certainly nothing to prove that >the track is unique or different to what weve heard from them up to now. At least the "known" bits sound alot like the 008R mix. Maybe we will find out someday... cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) (KLF) 3 AM: Eternal dub? Date: 25 Apr 2001 04:16:04 EDT > >I wouldn't call them 'dub' mixes, but instrumental/remixes/re-edits maybe= . > =20 > Well, the J&A mix is a dub mix, since there are virtually no vocals in it= ( > except Scott Piering in the break down section). At least that=B4s what I=20 call=20 > dub. Dubs (without getting into a massive debate on the term :) are usually the=20 instrumental tracks of a particular song with samples of the vocals (or othe= r=20 parts of the song) dropped in and out, usually with distorting effects. The= =20 vocal samples are "dubbed" into the mix. J&A Anti A Capella is just J&A wit= h=20 the vocal tracks faded down. Iron Horse is really the only one I would call= =20 a dub mix, tho it's not exactly. Now that I think of it, the Moody Boys mixes of LTTT could be called dubs. -paul Currently in rotation: Fatboy Slim - Halfway Between the Gutter and the Star= s=20 / various KLF www.sayhername.com -- Too Much Joy Official Website Tell your friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Douglas Miller" Subject: (klf) Re: 'Love Trance' KLF 006T Date: 25 Apr 2001 18:33:16 +1000 c-Row said: > I think that the 12" from ebay had been at least once at Adrenalin, where they pressed it. Donīt know wether without any > labels or just whitelabel. Later, some guy at R.A.G. (or > whatever it reads) used some of the printed labels/sleeves and put them on the pressed 12". I am doubtful of this. Based on the photos published on eBay the label looks very well bonded to the record. The label has the charactersistic profile and concentric grooves consistent with being pressure-bonded to the soft vinyl by the original pressing machine. Doug # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c-Row Subject: Re: (klf) (KLF) 3 AM: Eternal dub? Date: 25 Apr 2001 10:33:09 +0200 >Dubs (without getting into a massive debate on the term :) are usually the >instrumental tracks of a particular song with samples of the vocals (or other >parts of the song) dropped in and out, usually with distorting effects. Looking at some other artists (like The Shamen) dub mixes can also (donīt have to) be just without any vocals. Thatīs were I got my definition from. Well, just like the Moody Boys asked - What Is Dub ? cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xavier Ehret" Subject: RE: (klf) Re: 'Love Trance' KLF 006T Date: 25 Apr 2001 10:38:14 +0200 Ill second that=2E It seems that way in the picture at least=2E Gotta see it= in real life to be sure=2E Since the guy that bought it is on the list, well kn= ow soon enough if its a fake=2E Cheers Xav -----Message d'origine----- De : owner-klf@lists=2Exmission=2Ecom [mailto:owner-klf@lists=2Exmission=2Ecom]De la part de Douglas Miller Envoy=E9 : mercredi 25 avril 2001 10:33 =C0 : KLF Mailing List Objet : (klf) Re: 'Love Trance' KLF 006T c-Row said: > I think that the 12" from ebay had been at least once at Adrenalin, where they pressed it=2E Don=B4t know wether without any > labels or just whitelabel=2E Later, some guy at R=2EA=2EG=2E (or > whatever it reads) used some of the printed labels/sleeves and put them on the pressed 12"=2E I am doubtful of this=2E Based on the photos published on eBay the label looks very well bonded to the record=2E The label has the charactersistic profile and concentric grooves consistent with being pressure-bonded to the soft vinyl by the original pressing machine=2E Doug # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists=2Exmission=2Ecom=2E # To post, email klf@lists=2Exmission=2Ecom; replies go to original sender= =2E # KLF discography: http://www=2Eswcp=2Ecom/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c-Row Subject: Re: (klf) Re: 'Love Trance' KLF 006T Date: 25 Apr 2001 10:38:33 +0200 >I am doubtful of this. Based on the photos published on eBay the label >looks very well bonded to the record. The label has the charactersistic >profile and concentric grooves consistent with being pressure-bonded to the >soft vinyl by the original pressing machine. Leads to the question - why is Adrenalin then etched out and "replaced" with R.A.G. ? And who is R.A.G. anyway ? Seems like we got to wait until Milestighe receives 006T so he can scan the complete run out so we can confirm wether it really says R.A.G. or not... cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Haslock Subject: (klf) E-Train? Date: 25 Apr 2001 09:40:28 +0100 Could someone please tell me the significance of 'deapshit' and 'etrain' please Also any of the black room ever surfaced? **************************************************************************** LOGICSCOPE REALISATIONS LTD, 64 Great Eastern St, London EC2A 3QR The information contained in this document is intended only for the addressee.It may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material.You may not review, retransmit, disseminate, publish or otherwise use or rely on the information in this document unless you are its intended recipient.If you have received this document in error, Please contact the sender and delete all copies of this material. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Maarten" Subject: Re: (klf) God save the KLF mailinglist.....or is it just a boring place!?! Date: 25 Apr 2001 10:41:40 +0200 > >>No reactions to the confirmed sighting of the E-Train white label > >>pressing. Iīm not even sure if everyone knows that. > > > >At least I didn't know. Could you tell some more about this? > As we know from the discography, E-Train remains unreleased in its final state. I have been in contact with a guy from Germany who sold me big parts of his (k)ollection. He > reported that Energy-Music (www.energy-music.co.uk) definitively sold a while label pressing of E-Train back in 1993. Donīt know for how much it went (less than 006T on > ebay), and Energy doesnīt give any infos about the buyer of course. I have had contact with energy yesterday about some KLF items. We also spoke about the Love Trance 12". They weren't so sure about this record, especially due to the fact that there was only one available. I mentioned E-train also. As c-Row already wrote, it was sold in 1993 but as a white label with a sticker on the label saying "E-train". They sold it for only 30 pounds because they had the feeling that it was some sort of bootleg. Lee (energy) recollects that a guy from Sweden bought the record and that he was happy ;). Never had it in again > This guy wanted to buy it, but someone from UK was a bit faster than him. So what is known is that E-Train is somewhere in the UK now. As long as the buyer didnīt sell it > again. I wonder if heīs on the list... donīt think so, but you can never be sure. > > Maybe "someone" could add this info to the discography... ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) God save the KLF mailinglist.....or is it just a boring place!?! Date: 25 Apr 2001 04:59:36 EDT > Abandon all Art flyers appearing, Only one person reported seeing these but has yet to provide any information as to what they say, etc, or to provide a scan. > X S X on Radio 1, Likewise, I think only one person has heard this and has never reported in with any other information. Last I recall he was going to try taping the next show. > and the booleg of 008T with possible new tracks. This can't really be confirmed. All we have is a friend of a friend who saw it advertised on the internet story. For all we know the purchaser got a set of labels. Unless someone can confirm actually handling a copy, or at least seeing the item first hand... > Who is behnd the flyers in Liverpool, why and what do they look like? See above. > Who is showing films at the Foundry film festival? Probably Gimpo. > What do the legendarily non-existent X S X sound like? See above > What is on the love trance 12? Is it the MP3 we heard years ago? The same as what appeared on the mp3 a while back and, I assume the Monster attack mix of WTIL. But that remains to be seen. > Who went on the Spin? I don't think it's happened yet. Could be wrong. > What is on the 008T boot? See above. -paul Currently in rotation: Fatboy Slim - Halfway Between the Gutter and the Stars / various KLF; Proclaimers - Persevere sampler www.sayhername.com -- Too Much Joy Official Website Tell your friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c-Row Subject: (klf) Most remixed record ever ? Date: 25 Apr 2001 11:04:57 +0200 Just browsed the discography... is "What Time Is Love?" really the most remixed and covered record ever ? Or can someone come up with an even more mixed track ? (counting everything... KLFīs versions (including America and FTM), JAMS LP4 covers, other cover versions... I counted around 60 known versions) cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c-Row Subject: (klf) The KLF vs Mike Skandle Date: 25 Apr 2001 11:11:20 +0200 Hi, just another WTIL-Cover... I found this one on Napster: The KLF vs Mike Skandle - You Bi Love Itīs a quite good cover version, but I didnīt manage to find the source of the track. The id3 tag says that it is taken from a "Techno Club" cd, but I didnīt manage to find this certain release of the cd. Anyone got the real track or at least knows where to get it ? cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) E-Train? Date: 25 Apr 2001 05:14:19 EDT > Could someone please tell me the significance of 'deapshit' and 'etrain' > please > Also any of the black room ever surfaced? Deep Shit: from the Discog The JAMS: Deep Shit--Further Adventures of The JAMS [1988] unreleased single 7": 1988 UK (KLF Communications; DS 1) [flexi; x500] Deep Shit (part 1) [Was supposed to come with a "Deep Shit" comic book drawn by Jimmy.] The KLF: Deep Shit Part 3 [Aug 1989] unreleased single 12"WL: 1989 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 010IR) [x6] Deep Shit Part 3 (the illegal remix) Deep Shit Part 2 The Lovers' Side The recording I have of Deep Shit is just The Queen and I with a snatch of Bill yelling "Fuck this crap, lets have some Deep Shit" The b-side is an extended version of Lovers Side. ETrain, again, cannot be confirmed. See previous emails. Black Room: I have a cdr of what is supposed to be demos for the Black Room. IIRC, a close personal friend of ENT confirmed that it's them on the disk, but if this has anything to do with the Black Room is unknown. There is no KLF hand in this at all. BTW - it's absolute crap. -paul Currently in rotation: Fatboy Slim - Halfway Between the Gutter and the Stars / various KLF; Proclaimers - Persevere sampler www.sayhername.com -- Too Much Joy Official Website Tell your friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Parker Subject: RE: (klf) Most remixed record ever ? Date: 25 Apr 2001 10:13:50 +0100 >>Just browsed the discography... is "What Time Is Love?" really the most remixed and >>covered record ever ? Or can someone come up with an even more mixed track ? Going back a few years now, but the official Guiness Book of records entry for most remixed track used to be held by The Shamen's Move Any Mountain. I've a 70 minute CD of mixes that was released. Though now with the digital revolution i'm sure that has been surpassed though it probably depends whether you count unofficial releases. This e-mail message and any attachment(s) are CONFIDENTIAL and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you should not read, copy, distribute, disclose or otherwise use the information in this e-mail or any attachment(s). Please also e-mail, telephone or fax us immediately and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. E-mail may be susceptible to data corruption, interception and unauthorised amendment, and we do not accept liability for any such corruption, interception or amendment or the consequences thereof. Please note that any views expressed in this email may be those of the originator and do not necessarily reflect those of this organisation. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tone" Subject: (klf) re: love trance Date: 25 Apr 2001 12:31:11 -0000 >>What is on the love trance 12? Is it the MP3 we heard years ago? >The same as what appeared on the mp3 a while back and, I assume the Monster >attack mix of WTIL. But that remains to be seen. Well I would hope it is a pure trance mix of the mp3 we've all heard. I'd really appreciate if Miles could make the b-side available on mp3, I really doubt we'll ever find another copy. By the way if anyone in the UK knows where the new LTTT bootlegs can be found, I'd be grateful. Can't find a copy in Edinburgh. Tony # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Babylon Hythe" Subject: (klf) Re: Most remixed record ever ? Date: 25 Apr 2001 13:40:15 +0100 >Just browsed the discography... is "What Time Is Love?" really the most >remixed and covered record ever ? Or can someone come up with an even more >mixed track ? > >(counting everything... KLFīs versions (including America and FTM), JAMS LP4 >covers, other cover versions... I counted around 60 known versions) > >cy@ c-Row I am not sure about the total number of versions/remixes, but I know that The Art of Noise did loads and loads of variations of Closer to the Edge/Closer to the Edit/Closer/Closed up, which was all one basic track with various people remixing etc, I had about 35 versions, and I didn't come 'close' to a complete collection. Also Sigue Sigue Sputnik did a large number of remixes of their track Love Missile F1-11, with at least 2 on each of the 12" singles of it (they released a different version for each country in Europe!) And Pop will Eat itself covered it too. IIRC, I believe that 'walk on by' is the most covered track ever, but I am sure I will corrected if I am wrong. Right, That's my bit over with, I am off to lurk in the shadows again :-) Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (klf) re: love trance Date: 25 Apr 2001 13:41:34 +0100 Hi, The new LTT bootleg is available at Sister Ray (www.sisterray.co.uk) - although probably not listed on their web page yet (was listed in the recent NME ad at the back). l8rs, Nick ;-) > -----Original Message----- > > >>What is on the love trance 12? Is it the MP3 we heard years > ago? >The same as what appeared on the mp3 a while back and, I > assume the Monster >attack mix of WTIL. But that remains to be > seen. Well I would hope it is a pure trance mix of the mp3 we've > all heard. I'd really appreciate if Miles could make the b-side > available on mp3, I really doubt we'll ever find another copy. > By the way if anyone in the UK knows where the new LTTT bootlegs > can be found, I'd be grateful. Can't find a copy in Edinburgh. Tony # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) re: love trance Date: 25 Apr 2001 08:41:47 EDT > >>What is on the love trance 12? Is it the MP3 we heard years ago? > > >The same as what appeared on the mp3 a while back and, I assume the Monster > >attack mix of WTIL. But that remains to be seen. > > Well I would hope it is a pure trance mix of the mp3 we've all heard. > I'd really appreciate if Miles could make the b-side available on mp3, I > really doubt we'll ever find another copy. Not sure if I'm correct in seeing a misunderstanding in what you wrote, but the Love Trance mp3 *is* Pure Trance 3, not a remix of it. (ie: there is no "PT mix of Love Trance' other than the mp3). Assuming WTIL: Monster Attack is the b-side as the Discog states, then this track has been available for sometime (on the 98 White Room OST) -paul Currently in rotation: Fatboy Slim - Halfway Between the Gutter and the Stars / various KLF; Proclaimers - Persevere sampler www.sayhername.com -- Too Much Joy Official Website Tell your friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tone" Subject: (klf) re: love trance Date: 25 Apr 2001 12:40:16 -0000 >The new LTT bootleg is available at Sister Ray (www.sisterray.co.uk) yeah, its not on the website (checked yesterday), but i'll give them a call, thanks nick! t # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c-Row Subject: Re: (klf) re: love trance Date: 25 Apr 2001 14:53:50 +0200 >Not sure if I'm correct in seeing a misunderstanding in what you wrote, but >the Love Trance mp3 *is* Pure Trance 3, not a remix of it. Is this confirmed ? The info I got is that the mp3 is something like a re-edit by Nick Coler. And remember that the mp3 is shorter than the track on 006T, according to the discography. Time will tell... cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) re: love trance Date: 25 Apr 2001 09:18:29 EDT > >Not sure if I'm correct in seeing a misunderstanding in what you wrote, but > >the Love Trance mp3 *is* Pure Trance 3, not a remix of it. > > Is this confirmed ? The info I got is that the mp3 is something like a re- > edit by Nick Coler. And remember that the mp3 is shorter than the track on > 006T, according to the > discography. Time will tell... The mp3 is 5.49, the discog lists 5.58. Only nine secs difference which could easily be decreased by a slightly incorrect playing speed. I'd hardly say that was a big enough discrepancy to conclude that the mp3 is some sort of alternate mix/edit. Also the mp3 could be said to cut off very slightly prematurely which could add a second or two. I'm pretty confident the mp3 is what's on the 12". Now, if the mp3 were, say, 3:33 to the discogs 5.58 then we're getting somewhere. And the Beatles Yesterday is the most covered track, dammit! :) -paul Currently in rotation: Fatboy Slim - Halfway Between the Gutter and the Stars / various KLF; Proclaimers - Persevere sampler www.sayhername.com -- Too Much Joy Official Website Tell your friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c-Row Subject: Re: (klf) re: love trance Date: 25 Apr 2001 15:20:36 +0200 >The mp3 is 5.49, the discog lists 5.58. Only nine secs difference which >could easily be decreased by a slightly incorrect playing speed. Whops - mistake... I read the line with the monster attack mix. Mea Culpa ! :-) cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rikki Price Subject: (klf) RE: Love Trance Date: 25 Apr 2001 14:52:31 +0100 I think I posted most of the info below during another Love Trance = debate a couple of years ago, but here goes again (sorry it's a bit late, = haven't read the list for a while)... >the existence of this a record is now proven. >>That's debatable. All that's proven is that *a* record exists I worked at Food Records from 92-94 and their in-house studio was = manned by Nick Coler and Ian Richardson. I played Nick and Ian a tape of both = sides of the supposed Love Trance 12" that a guy was trying to flog me - = sleeves, labels, runout groove etchings and all, looked totally kosher - and = they didn't think either track sounded like a Bill & Jimmy effort. And I'd = say they'd be the people whose opinions I'd trust most (apart from B&J's, = in theory). So I didn't pay the guy the =A3150 (I think) he was after. I didn't hear the MP3 that got circulated but if someone still has it = and can forward I can listen and compare. Or if someone wants to volunteer = to make an MP3 from my tape I can send a copy (I don't have facilities to = make MP3s). >For this to have been faked, it would have meant writing/creating the = track Easy enough for any bedroom programmer >getting a hold of labels/sleeves These were readily available from most KLF dealers in the early = 90s...see below... >and pressing them up professionally, and being close enough to the=20 >manufacture to have them duplicate other Pure Trance issues to the = letter. >It sounds as if the quality of the vinyl (weight, etc) mirrors the = other PT >releases. That all would take a lot of effort. I know if I was going = to be=20 >doing this I'd at least make up a couple hundred (not erm, 5) and set=20 >about making a little money for myself. Years ago I heard (can't remember from whom) that one of the guys who = was an active KLF dealer at the time either worked at Adrenaline or had a = close friend who worked there. It was said that this person (can't remember = which dealer it was, either, I'm afraid) was responsible for creating all the bootlegs which abounded at the time, in quantities small enough not to = cause suspicion and to keep prices high, and big enough to make a lot of dosh = off. Take KLF92PROMO3, for example, which I got given a copy of by Sallie = and which there were apparently only 20 pressings of. Quite a few of these suspiciously popped up in Record Collector a few months later. Ditto = most of the other rare promos of the time. This sounds quite feasible to me as a) records would be pressed on the = same vinyl by the same machines so would appear genuine; b) sleeves and = labels would be readily available as they'd be stored at the pressing plant = for genuine releases (I'm guessing that B&J had sleeves & labels made for = Love Trance & TUTStrobe, but they could also have been bootlegs - just more complicated as you need to make films and stuff) and c) said dealer = already had a list of existing customers so didn't need to advertise them much, thereby not drawing much attention to himself, and maximising his = revenue. Big bucks for a bit of sneaky pressing. Therefore it's quite possible that this dealer pressed up one or two = copies of the supposed Love Trance 12"s at the time - not more, or it would = have been obvious they were bootlegs - and that the one Miles bought has = been hanging around in various collections since. It might even be the same = one that someone tried to palm off on me in early '94. I hope it's genuine, = for Miles's sake and in the interest of the Love Trance legend, but I'm = really not convinced... Rikki # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) Love Trance debate rages on........ Date: 25 Apr 2001 10:29:12 EDT The LOVE TRANCE debate rages on.......=20 >For this to have been faked, it would have meant writing/creating the track =20 > Easy enough for any bedroom programmer I am the one that has bought this record, and I am a producer & remixer (Blu= e=20 Pearl 'Naked in the rain '98 etc) and know how expensive getting a record=20 pressed can be, Getting the faked track mastered and eq'd costs around =A380. To get the mas= ter=20 pressed (one before an acetate is produced) is about =A3100. The test presse= s=20 after that (up to 10) can be free, but usually =A350+, but a run of say 200=20 white labels (added costs if labels are printed) can be around =A3500. No-one in thier right mind would go to this much trouble, or expense in the= =20 vein hope that some mug (not unlike me!!) is going to buy it at a huge price= .=20 Maths just don't add up. Granted, if you already had the labels, that's one expense less.=20 =20 To get a distribution deal, the distributor would not really deal with an=20 idependant producer, more likely only with an established label, because the= y=20 will only distribute if you can garauntee further releases,and sign a=20 contract stating so. The KLF lawyers woulds have to be aware of such a deal= .=20 =20 =20 =20 >I hope it's genuine, for Miles's sake and in the interest of the Love=20 Trance legend. You ain't the only one!!!!!!!! Heads will roll, rest assured.. Miles=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) KLF008R BOOTLEG Date: 25 Apr 2001 10:31:20 EDT I have 2 spare copies of this, if anyone is interested in a trade or to buy (dead cheap) I would report how close to the original it sounds, but I don't have the original to compare it to, so not much use really..!! Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) (KLF) 3 AM: Eternal dub? Date: 25 Apr 2001 11:03:04 EDT In a message dated 25/04/01 09:35:37 GMT Daylight Time, c-Row@gmx.de writes: > Well, just like the Moody Boys asked - What Is Dub ? My very old VCR (that's now gone to VCR heaven), had a dub button on it, and all it did was replace the sound with whatever was coming through the audio input. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) re: love trance Date: 25 Apr 2001 11:14:50 EDT In a message dated 25/04/01 13:33:46 GMT Daylight Time, han.do.jin@disinfo.net writes: > By the way if anyone in the UK knows where the new LTTT bootlegs can be found, > I'd be grateful. Can't find a copy in Edinburgh. www.hmv.co.uk had some "Last Train" albums if you do an artist search for The KLF, and you can mail order from them. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Quahogs !" Subject: Re: (klf) God save the (KLF) mailinglist Date: 25 Apr 2001 11:29:54 -0400 I actually sent a reply on this thread already, but i didn't do "Reply All," so only one person got it... >If you think being in Europe makes it hard to find KLF stuff, try being an >American. Umm, yeah. I've found a couple things here, and I'm always looking. I pretty much buy whatever KFL I find, that I don't already have. I have found a couple rare items, including the OOP Orb "Aubrey" cd ($5!), but for the most part, I've only got the easy-to-find US items (HotJ/CO/TWR/J&A). >I vividly remember seeing 3am on MTV years ago, but it's a rare day that i >meet anybody in the states that know who the KLF are or even remembers ever >hearing them, or of them before. I lived in the boonies until recently, so i didnt even hear the KLF until late college (94/95 ish). But yeah, nobody really knows about them. [funny sidebar, though: I was in a bar with a female friend recently, and she had a hooded blouse. I remarked on the hood, and she put it up and said she could be in the KLF with that hood on. I just about fell over....] >and I have been poor recently so buying up rare and costly LPs and CDs is >not in my budget. I'm actually saving up to get turntables, too, so I need to reduce my overly copious cd-purchasing. >In the immortal words of negativland, "copyright infringement is your best >entertainment value". man, I love it when the subjects of the various email ists I'm on overlap :) >this list could be used to talk about things related to the KLF indirectly, >such as random acts of performance art around the world. and people >bending and breaking kopyright in new and exciting ways. there are a >million things for us to do. Speaking of which, there's a mailing list which is ostensibly a Negativland mailing list, that deals not only with Negativland, but also a lot of copyright issues (in music and elsewhere), as well as practically everything else under the sun at times (it's a bit chatty). check out www.droplift.org and go to the Snuggles link. It's probably the best mailing list I've ever been on (and that's a lot!) --Quahogs-- _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Quahogs !" Subject: Re: (klf) Most remixed record ever ? Date: 25 Apr 2001 12:49:07 -0400 >Just browsed the discography... is "What Time Is Love?" really the most >remixed and covered record ever ? Or can someone come up with an even more >mixed track ? > >(counting everything... KLFīs versions (including America and FTM), JAMS >LP4 covers, other cover versions... I counted around 60 known versions) Does that include any Kompetition tracks? :) --Quahogs-- _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Quahogs !" Subject: Re: (klf) re: love trance Date: 25 Apr 2001 12:57:43 -0400 >And the Beatles Yesterday is the most covered track, dammit! :) from a random webpage i just found on "Yesterday": The most-covered Beatles song ever. The most covered song ever, period, unless you count "Happy Birthday" (and Paul owns that one, as well). Not necessarily a correct answer (what on the 'net is?), but at least it jives with what I've heard. --Quahogs-- _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) re: love trance Date: 25 Apr 2001 18:19:59 +0100 As far as I know the two tracks that have been around some time - "Love Trance" (as an MP3) and "WTIL: MA" on (CD as well as MP3) - match what's on the record. As far as I know, these recordings did not come from this copy of "Love Trance", nor the copy which someone in Norwich, UK has (had?) but from the second copy that went to Australia and then found its way back to the UK a few years ago. I have mentioned this record on several occasions on this list, and I am surprised that only the appearance on eBay of a copy finally has people believing the record exists. As to whether the record contains music by Bill and Jimmy - well that's a different matter altogether. c-Row suggests it was compiled by Nick Coler, and given the very un-KLF nature of the A-side this would seem quite credible. Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Robinson Subject: Re: (klf) KLF008R BOOTLEG Date: 25 Apr 2001 17:28:01 +0100 Milestighe@aol.com wrote: > > I have 2 spare copies of this, if anyone is interested in a trade or to buy > (dead cheap) I would report how close to the original it sounds, but I don't > have the original to compare it to, so not much use really..!! You could tell us the tracklist and timings, that would help! - Andy_R # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Robinson Subject: Re: (klf) Love Trance debate rages on........ Date: 25 Apr 2001 19:11:56 +0100 Milestighe@aol.com wrote: > No-one in thier right mind would go to this much trouble, or expense in the > vein hope that some mug (not unlike me!!) is going to buy it at a huge price. > Maths just don't add up. > > Granted, if you already had the labels, that's one expense less. not unless you work in a pressing plant and can do all the things you quoted (except for the labels maybe) for no cost at all when you are the last one in the building late at night. The mastering is another matter, but that's why most bootlegs (including the MP3 in question from what I could tell) haven't been properly mastered. - Andy_R # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Allan" Subject: (klf) RE: KLF stuff available in UK Date: 25 Apr 2001 18:56:20 +0100 Torsten wrote >UK (or at least London) is a heaven for KLF fans isn't it? Living in North Scotland there is a dearth of good record shops (vinyl). So KLF stuff here is rare. But take a trip to London and in 1 square mile there are tons of KLF rarities. The number of second hand record shops in SoHo is amazing. On one trip to London I got: JAMS 27 - 12" Down Town (one sided w/l) TVT 4041 - 12" Burn The Beat (US 4 track) SPACE LP 1 - LP Space KLF 004 P - 12" What Time Is Love? (promo wandaful mix) ALL the Kalevela 7" singles There were loads of other KLF rarities that I already had. Most of these were in Sister Ray (you were right Torsten), at the bottom of Berwick Street. I've visited them on three seperate occasions & they always have new stuff. They have a website, http://www.sisterray.co.uk/ which does not get updated regularly and I have not had much help when trying to buy on the 'phone. Elsewhere in London the Music, Video & Exchange shops are always good. They are liberally scattered around the city, find one and use their flyers to find the rest. Anyway, I too am going to try and contribute more often, but as with many people I rarely have any new info. I'm trying to remember my best KLF tape type story, but it will take time. Things are a bit hazy right now! Possibly my mate at an all-nighter in 1991 actually lying down on the floor when commanded by the KLF. (He was rather "confused") Or, riding a Red Dragon, standing in the North Sea at Balmedie beach, Aberdeen (beautiful, heaps of dunes) and listening to Chill Out start to finish. Cheers for now, Steve. -- The JAMs Are Gonna Tattoo Ya http://www.geocities.com/mumu23uk/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: Re: (klf) Most remixed record ever ? Date: 25 Apr 2001 20:53:55 +0200 > >Just browsed the discography... is "What Time Is Love?" really the most > >remixed and covered record ever ? Or can someone come up with an even more > >mixed track ? > > > >(counting everything... KLFīs versions (including America and FTM), JAMS > >LP4 covers, other cover versions... I counted around 60 known versions) > > Does that include any Kompetition tracks? :) No... neither Komp tracks nor other home-made tracks. How many WTIL tracks were there ? I remember two - RTFM edit and WTITotP. Anything else ? cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) My opinion Date: 25 Apr 2001 19:41:09 >In my discussion with the seller, and I think he eventually posted the info on his ebay ad, the track is the same as the mp3 which surfaced a while back. That makes sense, but my theory is that both this track, and this record have been around for a number of years, whether it's real or not. >This track specifically mentions the KLF ("have left the building").  For this to have been faked, it would have meant writing/creating the track, Would this really be that hard? I mean, this is a sample not heard in any other KLF track, but it's not B or J's voice is it? Didn't we just have a remix contest with tons of KLF inspired tracks? And they weren't the first ones by any means. How hard could this really be? I can get my girlfriend to say "The KLF have now left the bulding" and work it into a track and I hope the world is smart enough to know that it's not a legit track no matter what format I release it on. >getting a hold of labels/sleeves, This is also no problem since they have been for sale on ebay before. and pressing them up professionally, Not hard either if you work in a record factory, which thousands of people do. >  I know if I was going to be doing this I'd at least make up a couple hundred (not erm, 5) and set about making a little money for myself. Yeah, but the same thing could be said for legit KLF releases. Why the hell are there only 5 or 3 or however many copies of this thing if it's not even a promo or a test pressing? There aren't any other KLF items with final retail packaging that are even close to this rare are there? I could be wrong here. It takes a few hundered bucks to make a record, but if you have inside access to a record factory, it's just an hour or so of your time. >I'm reasonably certain that this is the real deal. Well I'm not saying that it *is* fake, I'm just saying there is about a 50/50 chance IMO. Chad Gombosi Member SCP www.scponline.net Chad's Game Music Page www.chadsgamemusic.com MP3.com page: www.mp3.com/signofzeta "Let me explain a couple of things. Time is short. That's the first thing. For the weasel, Time is a weasel. For the hero, Time is heroic. For the whore, Time is just another trick. If you're gentle, your Time is gentle. If you're in a hurry, Time flies. Time is a servant, if you are its master. Time is your god, if you are its dog. We are the creators of Time, the victims of Time, and the killers of Time. Time is timeless. That's the second thing. You are the clock, Cassiel." Emit - Far Away So Close _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Most Covered Song (was re: love trance) Date: 25 Apr 2001 17:34:22 EDT > The most-covered Beatles song ever. The most covered song > ever, period, unless you count "Happy Birthday" (and Paul > owns that one, as well). Would you count Happy Birthday? Okay, just because every family on the planet sings it several times a year can you count each of those as a cover? I would think officially you would have to stick with recorded/published versions. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) God save the (KLF) mailinglist.....or is it just a boring place!?! Re: Date: 25 Apr 2001 21:48:04 >I just thing that if we are inspired by the KLF then we are likely to >be >that type of people that will not sit around stroking our record >collections, but get out and make a difference in the world.  do >something I really like this bit. >really the funniest thing I can think of would be for 10-20 people >to all >start small record companies in separate places around the >world and >release music by groups calling them self the KLF.  Ha! I've thought of things like this too. I like this bit as well. Chad Gombosi Member SCP www.scponline.net Chad's Game Music Page www.chadsgamemusic.com MP3.com page: www.mp3.com/signofzeta "Let me explain a couple of things. Time is short. That's the first thing. For the weasel, Time is a weasel. For the hero, Time is heroic. For the whore, Time is just another trick. If you're gentle, your Time is gentle. If you're in a hurry, Time flies. Time is a servant, if you are its master. Time is your god, if you are its dog. We are the creators of Time, the victims of Time, and the killers of Time. Time is timeless. That's the second thing. You are the clock, Cassiel." Emit - Far Away So Close _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) (KLF) 3 AM: Eternal dub? Date: 25 Apr 2001 19:32:20 +0100 (BST) > In a message dated 25/04/01 09:35:37 GMT Daylight Time, c-Row@gmx.de > writes: > > > Well, just like the Moody Boys asked - What Is Dub ? 'Dub' the word itself simply means a copy. What a musical dub is can mean lots of different things, and all of them are correct usages of the word dub (so saying "usually with bits of the vocal thrown in" is in my opinion an inaccurate generalisation). Something is essentially a 'dub' if you are taking (copying) an original track, often with vocals, and producing a new different version that remixes the elements- either in terms of volume, and/or position/use in the track. This can mean a _lot_ of different things, ranging from Jamaican dub plates that often massively enhance the bass on a record, to trance remixes where the single vocal line is cut up and dropped out a bit more than it was before. There is no fixed definition of love. There is no fixed definition of dub. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) My opinion Date: 25 Apr 2001 17:50:41 EDT > Yeah, but the same thing could be said for legit KLF releases. Why the hell > are there only 5 or 3 or however many copies of this thing if it's not even > a promo or a test pressing? There aren't any other KLF items with final > retail packaging that are even close to this rare are there? I could be > wrong here. It's one thing for me to want to press up a few copies of my own personal music for my own personal reasons, it's another thing entirely to go through all the troble to make 3 copies of a fake KLF record, esp such a rare one. If there were piles of these floating about, sure, but members of this list have only seen two copies --ever. And what would be the point? on the off chance you could sell a copy *someday* and make a grand off of it? Or 150UKP (as one person was offered)? You can reason it out all you want but when you step back it makes absolutely no sense. -paul ...who just got a copy of Deep Heat 10 with Benio Over and Out in excellent shape. whoohoo! (damount got his hands on this one too) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tseeger" Subject: (klf) Some questions about Lazlo's discog Date: 26 Apr 2001 00:18:18 +0200 Hi! Just to populate the list... 1. The Intercord "3 a.m. Eternal (pure trance original)" 12" is wrongly listed as "INT 125.797". Should be "INT 125.919". The former number belongs to the "live at the s.s.l." pressing. 2. I 've got a Belgian "It's Grim Up North" CD labelled with Indisc DICD 8315. The discog doesn't contain that thing. 3. Here's a really strange 12" thing flying around. It's a French "3 a.m. Eternal Remixes" Sony/Columbia cover labelled COL 656614 .8. The tracks listed are the ones from the "Moody Boys Selection". But Lazlo lists the number as "Live at the s.s.l." with tracks unconfirmed. In the sleeve there is a record labelled with CBS, the number 656614.6 and the "live at the s.s.l." tracks. This number is even in run out groove but can't be found in Lazlo's. BTW, on disc are the s.s.l. tracks. Any comments before I'll mail Lazlo? And what's up with no. 3? Throw it away? Find a swap partner with the opposite problem? Sell it for lotsamoney? Bye Thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek Knight" Subject: RE: (klf) God save the (KLF) mailinglist Date: 25 Apr 2001 23:27:29 +0100 > >really the funniest thing I can think of would be for 10-20 people to all > >start small record companies in separate places around the world and > >release music by groups calling them self the KLF.  > > Ha! I've thought of things like this too. I like this bit as well. I was almost tempted to burn my Komp remixes onto a CDR and post them to the NME or something, with no other information. See if they took them seriously! Del Derek Knight djnite@bigfoot.com http://www.djnite.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jboy" Subject: (klf) Has anyone on the list got..... Date: 25 Apr 2001 23:29:31 +0100 Pure Trance 1 and Remix all 4 tracks on mp3 and same for Pure Trance 2 all 4 tracks.. on or off the mailing list. Got on 12" all 4 but no longer have vinyl playing facilities (thanx removal men) and cash strapped for a while (new house). had on tape but can no longer find it....... sorry 2 rant but I miss the songs..... jboy53 [Napster] jboy53hm [hotmail] Regards jboy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: (klf) Eternity Project 1 scans Date: 25 Apr 2001 20:26:43 EDT hmmm, sending this again. Seems the first attempt never made it. sorry if it actually did... Anyone out there have good to high resolution scans of the Eternity Project LP? Or can someone do some? -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jerry Quartley Subject: Re: (klf) Eternity Project 1 scans Date: 25 Apr 2001 20:30:05 -0400 Having just been given this, and the original loving you, 12", :D I'd be happy to, what do you need exactly and in what format? -jrq TheMgnt@aol.com wrote: > hmmm, sending this again. Seems the first attempt never made it. sorry if it > actually did... > > Anyone out there have good to high resolution scans of the Eternity Project > LP? Or can someone do some? > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: (klf) Eternity Project 1 scans Date: 25 Apr 2001 19:07:20 EDT Anyone out there have good to high resolution scans of the Eternity Project LP? Or can someone do some? -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) Love Trance debate rages on........ Date: 26 Apr 2001 02:16:05 Granted, if you already had the labels, that's one expense less. > >not unless you work in a pressing plant and can do all the things you >quoted (except for the labels maybe) for no cost at all when you are the >last one in the building late at night. That's what I was thinking. I mean sure it would cost hundereds to go throught the proper channels, but not everyone has to do that. The sort of process detailed here is what the most pedestrian people go through, but not others allready in the business. Where I work I have access to quite a bit of expensive equipment where I can do things for free that would cost thousands for the average guy. Not only that, but few "proper" places would let you print a fake KLF record anyway. > >The mastering is another matter, but that's why most bootlegs (including >the MP3 in question from what I could tell) haven't been properly mastered. Not only that, but you could just master it yourself. It's not like you have to have a government license to own a mixing board you know. Chad Gombosi Member SCP www.scponline.net Chad's Game Music Page www.chadsgamemusic.com MP3.com page: www.mp3.com/signofzeta "Let me explain a couple of things. Time is short. That's the first thing. For the weasel, Time is a weasel. For the hero, Time is heroic. For the whore, Time is just another trick. If you're gentle, your Time is gentle. If you're in a hurry, Time flies. Time is a servant, if you are its master. Time is your god, if you are its dog. We are the creators of Time, the victims of Time, and the killers of Time. Time is timeless. That's the second thing. You are the clock, Cassiel." Emit - Far Away So Close _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Flewin" Subject: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 06:57:46 Hey kids :) I'm back from hiding with another... post.. >The LOVE TRANCE debate rages on.......=20 Okay.. my 2 cents... and just a thought so don't kill me.. What if This entire thing is complete and UTTER BS!!! Think about it... B&J leak out to discography creators and other sources of this "Love Trance" release.. and say it's in such immensely and INSANELY small amounts. Now... you're still following me? What if this was a PURE Bullshit rumour and their idea of a joke? I mean seriously.. that wouldn't be TOO farfetched.. and then of course.. you know someone's going to start to realize this and attempt to capitalize on it.. so they press a bunch of bootlegs and label them with the Love Trance track and as a KLF release and slowly insert them into the world's music. VOILA! Bill and Jimmy sit back and laugh at how a rabid fan took matters into their own hands and watch how many gullible people buy up the bootlegs. Now I know this idea's gonna piss off alot of people... BUT! Seriously.. you got to sit back for a moment and realize for a split second... this could just possibly be true... once more as I said.. just my 2 cents. And then this.... >Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:27:29 +0100 >From: "Derek Knight" >Subject: RE: (klf) God save the (KLF) mailinglist > > > >really the funniest thing I can think of would be for 10-20 people to >all > > >start small record companies in separate places around the world and > > >release music by groups calling them self the KLF.  > > > > Ha! I've thought of things like this too. I like this bit as well. > >I was almost tempted to burn my Komp remixes onto a CDR and post them to >the >NME or something, with no other information. See if they took them >seriously! > >Del I dare you to do it man! I DARE YE! And then for further Konfusion, send it to a few other places as well ;) NME gets suspicious.. then another publication suddenly mentions of the recordings.. and then BOOM! We suddenl;y see Rolling Stone put B&J on their cover and the headliner "Have The KLF Really Left The Builidng? Or Have We Been Duped?" label it something... odd.. like JAMSCD23... Oh wait.. that's been done.. uhm... MUMUCD23 :) Make up some catchy name, and now we got ourselves a Konspiracy!! Perhaps some of the other fine lads n ladies of this list would like to give a call to some of these places or drop a line mentioning about hearing about some possible KLF resurgance remix album floating about and how it might be big news ;) [Pisses himself laughing if something like Rolling Stone actually did this and went out of their way with tons of magazines to interview B&J :)] _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c-Row Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 09:35:30 +0200 >I dare you to do it man! I DARE YE! And then for further Konfusion, send it >to a few other places as well ;) NME gets suspicious.. then another >publication suddenly mentions of the recordings.. and then BOOM! We >suddenl;y see Rolling Stone put B&J on their cover and the headliner > >"Have The KLF Really Left The Builidng? Or Have We Been Duped?" All in one bunch, or one track after the other ? :-) cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 09:58:55 +0100 .....a track (or two) a day for a two week stretch? If you're looking for a mailing volunteer (who's got a working burner)...... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c-Row Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 11:14:29 +0200 >.....a track (or two) a day for a two week stretch? > >If you're looking for a mailing volunteer (who's got a working burner)...... Question is which tracks you should take... I think, if we really decide to do this, we should take the best-sounding mixes. But hell, I really love the idea ! :-) cy@ c-ow # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 10:32:10 +0100 Not sure which tracks - possibly send two tracks per CD - one "harder" track and one "softer" track? I think that when the Komp CDs were burnt they were done so that one had "harder" tracks on it, one had "softer" tracks on it, and one was various sounding tracks. I'm game for it...... Who would we send it to? c-Row wrote: Question is which tracks you should take... I think, if we really decide to do this, we should take the best-sounding mixes. But hell, I really love the idea ! :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c-Row Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 11:55:25 +0200 >I'm game for it...... > >Who would we send it to? NME I guess... or some of the other big music mags. And how should it look ? Just a plain CD-R, no text on it ? cy@ c-Row PS. What do the other list members think about this ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 12:14:48 +0200 > NME I guess... or some of the other big music mags. And how should it look ? Just a plain CD-R, no text on it ? > > cy@ c-Row > > PS. What do the other list members think about this ? Maybe just one of these non-labelled silver discs. Nothing else on it. "Promo"-looking, right? I think it's a FAB idea - if it works. I've just done a remix on LTTT (the album version) - c-Row, you already know it. Just to let u know. :) The main problem in my eyes is which tracks we should take... And btw, where can I upload my above mentioned LTTT remix (I think it's pumping!!!) now after the Komp server has been closed? Danny --- DJ Kuta, KLF Online (www.klf.de) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c-Row Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 12:23:03 +0200 >Maybe just one of these non-labelled silver discs. Nothing else on it. >"Promo"-looking, right? Maybe with a small hand-written card... >I think it's a FAB idea - if it works. I've just done a remix on LTTT (the >album version) - c-Row, you already know it. Just to let u know. :) And maybe the finished yamp v2.2 ? :-) >And btw, where can I upload my above mentioned LTTT remix (I think it's >pumping!!!) now after the Komp server has been closed? 1) all kompetitors upload their mix to their own space, and we make some links on one page, or 2) there is a good spirit out there who could provide us some FTP space - 200 MB should be enough Any more ideas ? cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 11:56:23 +0100 Plain silver CD, clear CD-single case, and a business card sized card printed on one of these machine you get at train stations with something KLF-esque printed on it. Send it to NME, Q, and maybe some others. One CD a day over a week. Could be interesting to see the result.... Dan Kuta wrote: Maybe just one of these non-labelled silver discs. Nothing else on it. "Promo"-looking, right? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Parker Subject: RE: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 12:12:33 +0100 > PS. What do the other list members think about this ? Top Idea, definately send some of the quality mixes as it will make it all the more believable. How about using the #23 on the CD and maybe one of the lesser known aliases - Liberation Loophole perhaps ? 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Please note that any views expressed in this email may be those of the originator and do not necessarily reflect those of this organisation. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) Last word on PURE TRANCE 3 & a new tune sampling LTTT strings Date: 26 Apr 2001 07:41:18 EDT Point1 First, as I've said on previous emails, I am a remixer/producer. With my production partner we have done mixes for Blue pearl/Gala/2 Unlimited (for our sins) and other 'dance' acts. Recently we have had our own tune signed to a UK major called 'Moonlight', already playlisted on KISS FM and played by Dave Pearce on radio1 We had planned to release a record that we finished 18 months ago called ;'The Trinity', it may be of interest to this list, as it's a whopping great trance number, that samples the string section from LTTT/Chillout, anyone like a CDR copy? I'd like your opinion. Point2 About PURE TRANCE 3, i've been giving this subject serious thought (as you might imagine) and i'm no longer convinced it can be a real KLF release. The reason for this is it's limited numbers. We've already discussed the in's and out's of the costs of producing a record, and the dodgy ways it can be done on the cheap. Why is it not real? Well have a think about all the limited KLF releases, like JAMS 28T, ONLY 350 MADE. or CHOC ICE 3, ONLY 200 MADE. All limited edition test presses that the KLF produced were WHITE LABEL/NO LABEL releases. Yet PURE TRANCE 3 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c-Row Subject: Re: (klf) Last word on PURE TRANCE 3 & a new tune sampling LTTT strings Date: 26 Apr 2001 14:02:36 +0200 >Why is it not real? Well have a think about all the limited KLF releases, >like JAMS 28T, ONLY 350 MADE. or CHOC ICE 3, ONLY 200 MADE. All limited >edition test presses that the KLF produced were WHITE LABEL/NO LABEL >releases. By the way... anyone also got the January 12" with those really strange labels ? cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c-Row Subject: RE: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 14:03:06 +0200 > Top Idea, definately send some of the quality mixes as it will make it all >the more believable. How about using the #23 on the CD and maybe one of the >lesser known aliases - Liberation Loophole perhaps ? Yeah, even in the Manual (?) Bill tells the reader that they never used that name... maybe itīs the time to use it. NME has been (K)omped ;-) cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) Mystery SPACE 12" Date: 26 Apr 2001 08:33:14 EDT I found a white label promo in a local second hand/junk shop. The label and sleeve, both have SPACE rubber stamped on them in RED, and is in the same style as the KLF's own Space LP text.(this is what made me buy it) The cat no. is INDI 003 and has SPACE TOTAL LARGENESS also written in the run out groove. It was mastered by a guy called DAMONT, who also 'signed' many KLF run out grooves himself . This leads me to believe it was done around the same time as the KLF stuff. All very conicidental isn't it? Turns out this is is a dance-ish indie cover of a Hendrix tune 'Purple Haze'. It's an interesting record, does anyone know anything about it? I'm sure it has nothing to do with the late 90's UK band -SPACE from Liverpool. Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Subject: Re: (klf) Mystery SPACE 12" Date: 26 Apr 2001 22:43:39 +1000 Milestighe@aol.com wrote: > > I found a white label promo in a local second hand/junk shop. The label and > sleeve, both have SPACE rubber stamped on them in RED, and is in the same > style as the KLF's own Space LP text.(this is what made me buy it) ... > Turns out this is is a dance-ish indie cover of a Hendrix tune 'Purple Haze'. > It's an interesting record, does anyone know anything about it? I'm sure it > has nothing to do with the late 90's UK band -SPACE from Liverpool. No relation to STP Twenty-three (or whoever it was -my records are in storage)'s 'Let Jimi Take Over', is it? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Allan" Subject: Re: (klf) Mystery SPACE 12" Date: 26 Apr 2001 14:13:11 +0100 mute@tpg.com.au wrote: >No relation to STP Twenty-three (or whoever it was -my records are in storage)'s 'Let Jimi Take Over', is it? Is the above anything to do with the KLF. I got this as a promo in the early 90's (I think). Only recently did one of my mates say he thought it was KLF related. A description of my copy: Mr. Smiley DJ Pre-Release. Cat. No. WMS 001 T Possibly released through WAU (Mr Modo?). Let Jimi Take Over by STP (No mention of 23) Anyway I don't think this is the record Miles has got as I would not describe it as a Purple Haze cover. More of a Moody Boys style dub with Hendrix samples. Also there is no mention of space anywhere on my copy. And different Cat. No. of course! Steve. -- The JAMs Are Gonna Tattoo Ya http://www.geocities.com/mumu23uk/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Mystery SPACE 12" Date: 26 Apr 2001 10:22:00 EDT I should be getting a copy of this in the next week So I'll be able to note specifics on what it sounds like. Not sure of any direct K involvement on this but for the uninitiated, it's a 12" single from the Eternity Project 1 album in which Jimmy had a hand in both in the Orb and with a solo track. Not sure if he had anything to do with the rest of the album. > >No relation to STP Twenty-three (or whoever it was -my records are in > storage)'s 'Let Jimi Take Over', is it? > > Is the above anything to do with the KLF. I got this as a promo in the early > 90's (I think). Only recently did one of my mates say he thought it was KLF > related. A description of my copy: > > Mr. Smiley DJ Pre-Release. Cat. No. WMS 001 T Possibly released through WAU ( > Mr Modo?). Let Jimi Take Over by STP (No mention of 23) -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) My opinion Date: 26 Apr 2001 10:33:07 EDT In a message dated 25/04/01 20:42:30 GMT Daylight Time, signofzeta@hotmail.com writes: > Well I'm not saying that it *is* fake, I'm just saying there is about a > 50/50 chance IMO. Why doesn't someone who knows B&J (theres gotta be someone on this list) ask them if it's fake? They'd be able to tell u for certain. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Maarten" Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 16:36:45 +0200 > > NME I guess... or some of the other big music mags. And how should it look > ? Just a plain CD-R, no text on it ? > > > > cy@ c-Row > > > > PS. What do the other list members think about this ? Hehe, ABSOLUTELY *fabbbb*. I think this one is going to work ;) > Maybe just one of these non-labelled silver discs. Nothing else on it. > "Promo"-looking, right? Lets produce an infosheet as the KLF did. In their style of writing and mysteriousness it should definately work out. A style like the TV adds for the K Foundation. No explaination, just plain text. Release those to NME or Q a few days before the actuall sending of the "promo's". I think they'll be surprised... Infosheet 23: (...) If we meet further along be prepared... Our disguise may be complete. (...) > PS. What do the other list members think about this ? >Top Idea, definately send some of the quality mixes as it will make it all >the more believable. How about using the #23 on the CD and maybe one of the >lesser known aliases - Liberation Loophole perhaps ? Lets start where they finished, the announced but unreleased parts: The JAMS: It's Grim Up North [Orb remix by Alex Paterson] (KLF 014T) The KLF: Pure Trance (album) Maybe a pure trance album? ;) Maarten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) My opinion Date: 26 Apr 2001 10:47:06 EDT > > Well I'm not saying that it *is* fake, I'm just saying there is about a > > 50/50 chance IMO. > > Why doesn't someone who knows B&J (theres gotta be someone on this list) ask > them if it's fake? They'd be able to tell u for certain. I was just thinking this last night. M25 is coming up, I think. Someone get a tape to Gimpo. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "happy consumer!" Subject: (klf) what time is dub? Date: 26 Apr 2001 07:57:22 -0700 >Dubs (without getting into a massive debate on the term :) are usually the >instrumental tracks of a particular song with samples of the vocals (or other >parts of the song) dropped in and out, usually with distorting effects. . yeah, i agree thats pretty much what it means nowadays. when i think dub, i think of twilight circus sound system, king tubby, lee scratch perry, or impact all stars. i thought dub originated in the 70s from reggae producers. the term is used pretty loosely. no more tears is very dubby. emphasis on thick bass and mad delays. no more tears sampled king tubby. trumpet line. -happyconsumer Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. 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FREE!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 16:06:41 +0100 Having taken a look at the info sheets I think that they might have too much information on them to work. Personally I think that it needs to be something really basic. The only catch is that it needs to be sent to people who actually stand a chance of recognising what it is that they're being sent. "You have been seleceted by the Liberation Loophole to receive our latest broadcast. You are honoured. These broadcasts will continue for one week only. Pay attention" Just a thought..... Craig! Maarten wrote: Lets produce an infosheet as the KLF did. In their style of writing and mysteriousness it should definately work out. A style like the TV adds for the K Foundation. No explaination, just plain text. Release those to NME or Q a few days before the actuall sending of the "promo's". I think they'll be surprised... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Parker Subject: RE: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 16:12:55 +0100 Having taken a look at the info sheets I think that they might have too much information on them to work. Personally I think that it needs to be something really basic. Yeah i agree. Keep it minimal and mysterious. 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Please note that any views expressed in this email may be those of the originator and do not necessarily reflect those of this organisation. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 11:14:56 EDT In a message dated 26/04/01 07:59:54 GMT Daylight Time, tknomncr@hotmail.com writes: > >I was almost tempted to burn my Komp remixes onto a CDR and post them to > >the > >NME or something, with no other information. See if they took them > >seriously! > > > >Del > > > > I dare you to do it man! I DARE YE! And then for further Konfusion, send it > to a few other places as well ;) NME gets suspicious.. then another > publication suddenly mentions of the recordings.. and then BOOM! We > suddenl;y see Rolling Stone put B&J on their cover and the headliner > Hey this sounds like a really funny idea, so funny if the original person doesn't do it then I may be just tempted to work up some KLF style track with Dance EJay (it can produce most stuff that B&J used to produce.), send it to NME with a release date of 01/04/02 ( 04/01/02 for Americans) (it even matches the kind of trick B&J would pull :D) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 11:26:14 EDT In a message dated 26/04/01 10:58:11 GMT Daylight Time, c-Row@gmx.de writes: > PS. What do the other list members think about this ? > Make sure where you mail 'em from looks genuine like close to B&J's house so they get the right postmark on them (the old KLF address was Aylesbury, Bucks so it might be good to mail 'em from there, or here's a good idea if any tracks resemble some existing KLF tracks get all sorts of people together and mail 'em from "certain" places as follows:- Queen & I remix - mail from Stockholm (Abba Konnection) Justified & Ancient - mail from Liverpool (Ice Cream Konnection) IGUN - Manchester (or any other northern town/city mentioned in the song) LTTT - a postbox close to where Trancentral was located (London?) anyone think of any more? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Maarten" Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 17:26:33 +0200 > Hey this sounds like a really funny idea, so funny if the original person > doesn't do it then I may be just tempted to work up some KLF style track with > Dance EJay (it can produce most stuff that B&J used to produce.), send it to > NME with a release date of 01/04/02 ( 04/01/02 for Americans) (it even > matches the kind of trick B&J would pull :D) > > why not take the 13th of may? wasn't that the day, according to info sheet 23, that they left the music buisiness?? A comeback after 9 years. I thought 9 meant sumtn like "the circle is round", "back where we started" ;)) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 16:38:36 +0100 If the 19th of May was when they left the music business then I think that it might be a fitting time to send the first CD. If this is going to be done - I'm more than happy to provide, burn, and ship the CDs - but we do need to decide which tracks, how many, and what the sheets need to say. I think that two tracks, shipped each day, over a one week period, on a plain silver CD, to NME and Q (maybe John Peel as well?), with an acompanying sheet (kept basic) might arise some interest. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 11:46:55 EDT In a message dated 26/04/01 16:39:55 GMT Daylight Time, Craig.Earnshaw@TheEntrepreneur.Com writes: > If this is going to be done - I'm more than happy to provide, burn, and ship > the > CDs - but we do need to decide which tracks, how many, and what the sheets > need > to say. You'll have to put URGENT on the package in big red writing or else NME probably won't open it till September or something. Anyone work for NME on this list that could probably push it further and make sure it gets issued? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: (klf) Love Trance, last act Date: 26 Apr 2001 19:02:19 +0200 Hey again. Just listened to the supposed "Love Trance"... somehow, the synth line always seemed to be familiar to me in some strange way. Put Kraftwerk's "The Model" in and you know where the chords are from! (At least it's 90% fitting, isn't it?) Anyone else of the same opinion? Dan --- DJ Kuta, KLF Online (www.klf.de) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 18:21:16 +0100 Darrenforster99@aol.com writes >Make sure where you mail 'em from looks genuine like close to B&J's house so >they get the right postmark on them (the old KLF address was Aylesbury, Bucks >so it might be good to mail 'em from there, Perhaps worth noting that The NME, Melody Maker (and previously Sounds) have in fact reported on bogus KLF/K Foundation events in the past and referred to where the information stating these 'facts' were forwarded from to them by making reference to the postcode where the letter/parcel was forwarded. (e.g. the infamous 'Queen & I/' free rave at Buckingham Palace rumoured to occur at midnight New Year`s Eve 31/12/94). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 19:28:29 +0200 > > NME has been (K)omped ;-) > > You sent something already? What? No, itīs just some "nice" text I came up when writing the mail. Nothing sent yet. cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: Re: (klf) Love Trance, last act Date: 26 Apr 2001 19:37:20 +0200 > Just listened to the supposed "Love Trance"... somehow, the synth line > always seemed to be familiar to me in some strange way. > > Put Kraftwerk's "The Model" in and you know where the chords are from! (At > least it's 90% fitting, isn't it?) Or to those who donīt know Kraftwerkīs track - listen to the beginning of "U96 - Love Religion", itīs the same synth line like Kraftwerk. Well, and to those who know neither, ehm... yeah. :-) cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Blumenthal, Michael (ELS)" Subject: RE: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 18:57:49 +0100 > Queen & I remix - mail from Stockholm (Abba Konnection) > Justified & Ancient - mail from Liverpool (Ice Cream Konnection) > IGUN - Manchester (or any other northern town/city mentioned in the song) > LTTT - a postbox close to where Trancentral was located (London?) > > anyone think of any more? Gotta gotta gotta get Helsinki in there somewhere. mikeyB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jboy" Subject: (klf) Illuminatus.....How can I liberate a copy of this ? Date: 26 Apr 2001 19:21:59 +0100 in all seriousness anyone know where I can read the first book....without paying money to buy (and my local library sone know what it was) any ideas perhaps..... 23? jboy53 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 18:50:34 +0100 (BST) On Thu 26 Apr, Craig Earnshaw wrote: > If this is going to be done - I'm more than happy to provide, burn, > and ship the CDs - but we do need to decide which tracks, how many, > and what the sheets need to say. I know I've been pretty down on some recent ideas on this list, but I'm afraid this is another one I'm going to be negative about... I think you're wasting your time, for two main reasons. 1. The NME and most music mags have review sections, and a lot of them have demo reviews for unsigned bands, who will be sending all sorts of different "novelty" items or using curious devices to try to get the reviewer's attention- and I'm confident that people will have tried minimalist approaches (eg. a CD-R with two printed words on and nothing else) as a potential approach. If these CDs are sent to a music mag they're likely to get redirected to the demo reviews section, and then thrown out of the demo reviews section for using massive samples unauthorised rather than being signable, publishable music. If several CDs get sent, they won't even put them in the CD player, for this reason. 2. A significant number of the Kompetition tracks sound like somebody with a home computer sampling old KLF records with mixed degrees of success. It's difficult to explain, but it's often easy to spot the difference between a track made by the artist who have the original component parts to hand, and a track made by somebody who's only sampling the finished CD. My personal opinion? That if this plan goes ahead then instead of "KLF Have Not Left The Building", NME are more likely to print something headlined "KLF Fans Just Won't Let It Lie". Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Timo Toivonen" Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 21:49:42 +0300 On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:57:49 +0100 Michael Blumenthal wrote: > > Queen & I remix - mail from Stockholm (Abba Konnection) > > Justified & Ancient - mail from Liverpool (Ice Cream Konnection) > > IGUN - Manchester (or any other northern town/city mentioned in the > > song) LTTT - a postbox close to where Trancentral was located > > (London?) > > > > anyone think of any more? > > Gotta gotta gotta get Helsinki in there somewhere. I am ready to put a letter in a box from here if needed. Something with Kalevala records maybe? Someone who knows more on KLF than me can make something up. -- . ..-[ timo.toivonen@iki.fi | http://www.iki.fi/stibe/ ]-.. . "War does not determine who is right - only who is left." Bertrand Russell # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 20:56:08 +0200 > My personal opinion? That if this plan goes ahead then instead of "KLF > Have Not Left The Building", NME are more likely to print something > headlined "KLF Fans Just Won't Let It Lie". I really hate to say, but although Iīd really LOVE to see this CD become reality, I think thatīs a point. Not unless it really feels professional. Good ideas anyone ? cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) Illuminatus.....How can I liberate a copy of this ? Date: 26 Apr 2001 13:58:32 -0500 They sell the whole trilogy as one book now, and really cheap. I paid no more than $10 for the hard cover version. You could probably pick up a used one for less than the cost of an "overdue" charge. Mask of the Illuminati is good too. ...not as long, and the story is more linear, which makes it much easier to understand. Don "in all seriousness anyone know where I can read the first book....without paying money to buy (and my local library sone know what it was" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reed Hedges Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 15:18:18 -0400 > > Something with Kalevala records maybe? > Someone who knows more on KLF than me can make something up. Kalevala is an interesting idea. It was a similiar stunt. (It's also one of my favorite K-related records!) -- Reed Hedges reed@zerohour.net http://zerohour.net/~reed see web page for public key info # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 20:40:20 +0100 (BST) On Thu 26 Apr, Reed Hedges wrote: > > > > > > Something with Kalevala records maybe? > > Someone who knows more on KLF than me can make something up. > > Kalevala is an interesting idea. It was a similiar stunt. It was the completely _opposite_ stunt. It was Bill and Jimmy writing new music and pretending to be somebody else. The new idea is somebody else rehashing old music and pretending to be Bill and Jimmy. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jboy" Subject: Re: (klf) Illuminatus.....How can I liberate a copy of this ? Date: 26 Apr 2001 20:31:57 +0100 > I paid no more than $10 for the hard cover version. I have moved into new house, lots of expense etc, blah, blah, blah. What I am really after is to find out more about the books, I hear them mentioned a fair bit, and there seems to be a bit of knowledge on klf mailing list about it. I would like to read the first book to get to grips with weither I would like it..... However, I feel as I do with music/films and generally anything in life, I want to test the product out before I buy eg I listen to songs I download/upload to napster, this will problaby have the copyright guys having a fit, but hold up If I like it I will generally buy it [if available], my question is will I like something I hear people talking about i.e. something unknown and costing money. Would u buy a car from the web second hand without going to see it first, majority of people would say no [if not all], why you wanna make sure that it is for you before you hand over your cash. How many people hear bought a KLF record in 1987-1989 before they know who KLF were, not many i suspect, why did you buy the record, did you hear on radio........ I remember the discussion on the list a while a ago about copyright/napster etc I will add my ore in again, why can I not download any song I want from the internet / napster for my own personal pleasure, I decided then if I want to buy a song based on what I have heard, lets face facts guys can anyone confim that Bill/Jimmy gives a rats arse that there songs are on the internet and from what I have read on the net/klf mailing list in the short time I have been a passive member of the list I came up with the conclusion that Bill/Jimmy support pranks/anarcists type behavior, anarcists giving a big finger in the air to goverments and such bodys. are the record companies not in the same bracket...? and when klf left the business and deleted back catalogs etc isnt that a big screw you to the fans [i think not it was a big screw you to the record companies involved - it didn't seem to work though did it, I mean it worked in the UK only because they owned the material in the uk but arista/bmg in the states owned the rights and are still cashing in on the fact. I think that the KLF but lets puts things straight they often ripped off artists and put them into a track ....Kopyright ? anyway back from my huge tangent ......ahh yes there i was...... I would like to read the first book Eye..... as a sampler to see if it is my cup of tea and I promise I would buy the book If I feel that the price I pay for it I deam worthy of read. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Blumenthal, Michael (ELS)" Subject: RE: (klf) Illuminatus.....How can I liberate a copy of this ? Date: 26 Apr 2001 20:50:08 +0100 > From: jboy [mailto:jboy53hm@hotmail.com] > I would like to read the first book to get to grips with > weither I would like it..... OK, for starters, what hemisphere are you in? mikeyB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACYANDI@aol.com Subject: (klf) REM Date: 26 Apr 2001 15:52:24 EDT I just heard a REM interview on Xfm (London 'indie' radio station). Micheal Stipe was asked if he was listening to anything lately, he replied with a few names , then said ' oh yes and that 4 am eternal' this is where i paid attention, he struggled to come up with the name then said ' oh yes its the KLF' He said that they often listened to older music for inspiration. Hooray # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) REM Date: 26 Apr 2001 16:16:33 EDT In a message dated 26/04/01 20:53:14 GMT Daylight Time, TRACYANDI@aol.com writes: > I just heard a REM interview on Xfm (London 'indie' radio station). Micheal > Stipe was asked if he was listening to anything lately, he replied with a > few > names , then said ' oh yes and that 4 am eternal' this is where i paid > attention, he struggled to come up with the name then said ' oh yes its the > KLF' He said that they often listened to older music for inspiration. > Hooray I e-mailed N-Trance (Stayin' Alive, D.I.S.C.O) once about there konnection with The KLF (Ricardo Da Force was rapper for KLF and N-Trance), and was delighted to find out that a lot of The KLF work was there inspiration, they also mentioned The KLF on there website as being the inspiration for their songs. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 16:20:23 EDT In a message dated 26/04/01 19:05:44 GMT Daylight Time, m.blumenthal@elsevier.co.uk writes: > Gotta gotta gotta get Helsinki in there somewhere. > What about 3 AM Eternal - you could pretend Helsinki's the lost continent :D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Maarten" Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 22:47:09 +0200 Stuart Bruce wrote: (...) > My personal opinion? That if this plan goes ahead then instead of "KLF > Have Not Left The Building", NME are more likely to print something > headlined "KLF Fans Just Won't Let It Lie". Tnx Stuart.... ;) Than we'll have some publicity. Maybe Bill and Jimmy will think it over... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Illuminatus.....How can I liberate a copy of this ? Date: 26 Apr 2001 16:50:38 EDT > > I paid no more than $10 for the hard cover version. > > I have moved into new house, lots of expense etc, blah, blah, blah. A used book store would most likely have it for under $5. > What I am really after is to find out more about the books, I hear them > mentioned a fair bit, and there seems to be a bit of knowledge on klf > mailing list about it. The books (the first three are only sold as a trilogy) detail the battle between the Illuminati and the JAMs. It's at times funny, awesome, exciting and mostly downright confusing. > Would u buy a car from the web second hand without going to see it first, > majority of people would say no [if not all], why you wanna make sure that > it is for you before you hand over your cash. Are you seriously comparing paying $5 for a book to buying a car over the internet? It's a book. With books you almost never know it's going to be good unless you sit down to read it. I would hardly call $5 "hard earned cash". It's pocket change. If you're debating on parting with $5 and wanting to "sample" the book first then, beleive me, the Trilogy is NOT for you. The first book, Eye in the Pyramid, is probably the most confusing thing you will ever read and it only comes to make sense as you work thru the other two books. And the other two books wont make sense unless you read EYE. I'm sure there are many website on the Illuminati, etc and I'm sure they will fill you in on Golden Apples and fnords. And you can always plop down in a chair at Barnes and Noble and read a few pages. I will say this, if you are a fan of the KLF it falls under the required reading category. A lot of their mythology will make a bit more sense, and most certainly "All You Need is Love". A few of my favorite passages: "What would you think of a man who not only kept an arsenal in his home, but was collecting at enormous financial sacrifice a second arsenal to protect the first one? What would you say if this man so frightened his neighbors that they in turn were collecting weapons to protect themselves from him? What if this man spent ten times as much money on his expensive weapons as he did on the education of his children? What if this man not only is feuding with the people on his block but involves himself in the quarrels of others in distant parts of the city and in the suburbs? Such a man would clearly be a paranoid schizophrenic with homicidal tendencies..." [...] Joe smiled, remembering the diary he'd kept when he was a teenager. In case his parents found it, he always referred to masturbation as stamp collecting. 'Collected five stamps today -- a new record.' ' After five days of no stamps, collected a beauty in several colors. Enormous, but the negotiations were tiring.' [...] Why me? The question asked by the solider as the enemy bullets whistle around him, by the harmless homeowner as the homicidal maniac steps through the kitchen door hunting knife in hand, by the woman who has given birth to a dead baby, by the prophet who has just had a revelation of the word of God, by the artist who knows his latest painting is a work of genius. Why you? Because you're there, schmuck. Something has to happen to you. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ChillOut Subject: RE: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 16:56:07 -0400 Message text written by "Blumenthal, Michael (ELS)" >Gotta gotta gotta get Helsinki in there somewhere.< whole idea is totally justified & this is a clincher my suggestion: 5 cds (preferably diamond burns) plain card sleeve with JUSTIFIED on front and an e-mail address on the back cd1 posted from aylesbury cd2 from brighton cd3 from ec2 cd4 from helsinki cd5 from chicago claim your crown and be justified : ) + ( . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 22:15:28 > > My personal opinion? That if this plan goes ahead then instead of "KLF > > Have Not Left The Building", NME are more likely to print something > > headlined "KLF Fans Just Won't Let It Lie". > >I really hate to say, but although Iīd really LOVE to see this CD become >reality, I think thatīs a point. Not unless it really feels professional. Well I think the basic idea is cool, but I hate the details. I mean what's with all this 23 23 23!!! crap? We all know the deal with 23, the Illuminatis, etc but it's actual presence in KLF tracks is slim to none as far as I know. How many KLF songs or packages actualy even mention the number? I can't think of any songs that say "23" in them. The Madruda Eterna Club Mix 12" has it in it's catalog number I think, but that's almost it. There are more refeneces to 23 in an episode of Max Headroom than any track on the White Room. The KLF were all about throwing convention, and doing something new. This is why they arent making the same stuff over and over again. If you make a CD with a bunch of late 80's KLF in-jokes (or whatever you call them) it's isn't going to look like a KLF revival at all, more like a dorky fan project by KLF worshiping nerds. Sort of like a Star Trek convention (60's series ONLY!) Like I said though, the *idea* is fantastic, but it must be very understated, and contain *new* elements; not just musicly, but spiritualy, like FTM was...sort of... Also, it must be pressed to legit CD, or preferably vinyl. The KLF have all the hook-ups, and I can't see them resorting to send CD-Rs to people when they know club DJs prefer wax. Vinyl has an air of "legit" to it for some reason now that people can write 16x CDRs at home, records seem very special. Plus after it is released it will be fun to see a copy end up on ebay so some stooge can pay $1000 for it :) Chad Gombosi Member SCP www.scponline.net Chad's Game Music Page www.chadsgamemusic.com MP3.com page: www.mp3.com/signofzeta "Let me explain a couple of things. Time is short. That's the first thing. For the weasel, Time is a weasel. For the hero, Time is heroic. For the whore, Time is just another trick. If you're gentle, your Time is gentle. If you're in a hurry, Time flies. Time is a servant, if you are its master. Time is your god, if you are its dog. We are the creators of Time, the victims of Time, and the killers of Time. Time is timeless. That's the second thing. You are the clock, Cassiel." Emit - Far Away So Close _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "happy consumer!" Subject: (klf) currently, what goes on? Date: 26 Apr 2001 15:22:53 -0700 >Simon Coward wrote: >> ...But currently, what goes on? >Who is showing films at the Foundry film festival? i'm pretty sure gimpo is showing something at least. check out "concrete enema" filmed by gimpo. some of the best shit ive ever seen. whatever else is showing there, im sure, will be worth checking out if for no other reason, all that's strange and wonderful eventually connects. and the foundry seems to be a hub for things like that. http://www.ellipsis.com/foundry/index.html >Who went on the Spin? gimpo of course. i did the spin as well. i could go into it here, but it would be better to finish the online photo journal im working. and it was the 5th m25 spin, by the way. happened march 24th-25th. with a pre party on the 23rd at the foundry. http://www.ellipsis.com/foundry/M25/2001/index.cgi?which=Q1010036.jpeg -happyconsumer Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - advertisement - - - - - - Limited Time Offer: FREE Products! Pay only shipping and handling. Get FREE Software, CDR's, Cellular Accessories, Videos, DVD's, Music, Injet Refills and much more. Only when you click here now - - > http://www.free-irewards.com/cgi-bin/bmb2 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) Illuminatus.....How can I liberate a copy of this ? Date: 26 Apr 2001 22:23:04 > > > I paid no more than $10 for the hard cover version. > >I have moved into new house, lots of expense etc, blah, blah, blah. > Dude, it's only $10. All copyright issues aside, don't be pathetic. And besides I don't think anyone is bored enough to type an entire novel into Word just so you don't have to pay for it. The stores in my areas sell the trilogy for about $15 actually (a huge book that will occupy you for days for the cost of a pizza). It's the only way I've seen the books published for years now in the US. It would probably be much harder, and expensive to find the novels seperatly than it would be to just get the comp. Chad Gombosi Member SCP www.scponline.net Chad's Game Music Page www.chadsgamemusic.com MP3.com page: www.mp3.com/signofzeta "Let me explain a couple of things. Time is short. That's the first thing. For the weasel, Time is a weasel. For the hero, Time is heroic. For the whore, Time is just another trick. If you're gentle, your Time is gentle. If you're in a hurry, Time flies. Time is a servant, if you are its master. Time is your god, if you are its dog. We are the creators of Time, the victims of Time, and the killers of Time. Time is timeless. That's the second thing. You are the clock, Cassiel." Emit - Far Away So Close _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 23:28:14 +0100 Chad Gombosi writes >I can't think of any songs that say "23" in them. "23 years is a mighty long time, when the world is turning and everything`s mine" from 'Next' on the 1997 album I believe (where I think most of the mentions of the number 23 in any of the lyrics are, and I`m fairly sure that there are a *LOT* of other instances as well. Didn't Pete Robinson compile a list of 23s that cropped up in relevance to B&D in his Justified and Ancient booklet? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Timo Toivonen" Subject: RE: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 27 Apr 2001 01:34:48 +0300 On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 16:56:07 -0400 ChillOut wrote: > plain card sleeve with JUSTIFIED on front and an e-mail address > on the back > cd1 posted from aylesbury > cd2 from brighton > cd3 from ec2 > cd4 from helsinki > cd5 from chicago One problem. How to make sure that all CDs arrive on their exact days. It might be difficult to get letters from Chicago and Helsinki to arrive at NME at right time. Some testing would be required at least. Which e-mail address to the back? It can't bounce. How'bout klf@lists.xmission.com ;-) -- . ..-[ timo.toivonen@iki.fi | http://www.iki.fi/stibe/ ]-.. . "War does not determine who is right - only who is left." Bertrand Russell # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reed Hedges Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 18:56:13 -0400 > > Kalevala is an interesting idea. It was a similiar stunt. > > It was the completely _opposite_ stunt. > > It was Bill and Jimmy writing new music and pretending to be somebody > else. > > The new idea is somebody else rehashing old music and pretending to be > Bill and Jimmy. yeah. Unfortunately, it's easier to try to be someone unknown than someone famous., Or is it? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reed Hedges Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 18:57:37 -0400 > cd5 from chicago why chicago? Maybe they should all be posted from South America. Tetlan, Guatamala. (nice pyramids there). The real ambient trancy stuff maybe. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "happy consumer!" Subject: RE: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 15:55:20 -0700 and then BOOM! We >suddenl;y see Rolling Stone put B&J on their cover and the headliner > >"Have The KLF Really Left The Builidng? Or Have We Been Duped?" > >label it something... odd.. like JAMSCD23... Oh wait.. that's been done.. >uhm... MUMUCD23 :) Make up some catchy name, and now we got ourselves a >Konspiracy!! that would be cool, if say, we did it to milli vanilli. but seriously, i dont think we want bill & jimmy to take the blame for some of those odc1 remixes. they've got their own plan going. remember 45, seems like theyre totally done with the KLF, and theres no going back to it. maybe in 2018 when the K foundation resurfaces to discuss the burning, that will be the next K incarnation. but it looks like they have to sit quiet in terms of any K related operations. i could be wrong. did anyone pick up that q magazin for april? there was a 2 page article on the burning. "it wasnt to destroy the money, it was to watch it burn" - bill drummond, from the article. -happyconsumer. Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - advertisement - - - - - - Limited Time Offer: FREE Products! Pay only shipping and handling. Get FREE Software, CDR's, Cellular Accessories, Videos, DVD's, Music, Injet Refills and much more. Only when you click here now - - > http://www.free-irewards.com/cgi-bin/bmb2 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "happy consumer!" Subject: RE: Re: (klf) My opinion Date: 26 Apr 2001 16:20:26 -0700 >Why doesn't someone who knows B&J (theres gotta be someone on this list) ask >them if it's fake? They'd be able to tell u for certain. that would make it pretty easy. but. the gods cant intervene. it would spoil Kreation. you know? it s the mystery they gave us. most of us probably wouldnt have been drawn here in the first place if it wasnt for that mystery. happyconsumer Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - advertisement - - - - - - Limited Time Offer: FREE Products! Pay only shipping and handling. Get FREE Software, CDR's, Cellular Accessories, Videos, DVD's, Music, Injet Refills and much more. 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FREE!!!!! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - advertisement - - - - - - Limited Time Offer: FREE Products! Pay only shipping and handling. Get FREE Software, CDR's, Cellular Accessories, Videos, DVD's, Music, Injet Refills and much more. Only when you click here now - - > http://www.free-irewards.com/cgi-bin/bmb2 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Illuminatus.....How can I liberate a copy of this ? Date: 26 Apr 2001 19:38:26 EDT In a message dated 26/04/01 23:23:41 GMT Daylight Time, signofzeta@hotmail.com writes: > Dude, it's only $10. All copyright issues aside, don't be pathetic. And > besides I don't think anyone is bored enough to type an entire novel into > Word just so you don't have to pay for it. I've got The Manual all typed in Word (and someone was bored enough to type Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy in Word as well, although I've never read either in Word 'cos it's too stressfull on the eyes!). Signofzeta is right, go out and buy it if you can get it for only $10, it will also support the author so he/she might right more books that inspire really cool bands to release really cool records and really confuse the world with what they are doing. BTW - I bet your not the type of guy who downloads songs from Napster and then goes out and buys the originals if he likes them, you sound like the type that is helping all these file sharing utils get legal cases brought against them. Your computer can help Cancer Research - see http://www.ud.com THINK project. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "happy consumer!" Subject: RE: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 16:38:50 -0700 A comeback after 9 years. I thought >9 meant sumtn like "the circle is round", "back where we started" ;)) even though island delayed the album for years until they thought the market was right for such a thing, or for whatever reason, it was 12 years since their first release by the time cydonia came out. LX referenced the "12 years" as it comes up in asian culture, as a symbol of the end of a cycle. so, that idea for marketing has been taken. -happyconsumer Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - advertisement - - - - - - Limited Time Offer: FREE Products! Pay only shipping and handling. Get FREE Software, CDR's, Cellular Accessories, Videos, DVD's, Music, Injet Refills and much more. Only when you click here now - - > http://www.free-irewards.com/cgi-bin/bmb2 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "happy consumer!" Subject: RE: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 16:51:44 -0700 >Perhaps worth noting that The NME, Melody Maker (and previously Sounds) >have in fact reported on bogus KLF/K Foundation events in the past would it be too much for the NME or any music press to get on any fan mailing list so they know who theyre writing for? it would only make sense, if they can afford the time to keep up with lists centered on key names. -happyconsumer Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - advertisement - - - - - - Limited Time Offer: FREE Products! Pay only shipping and handling. Get FREE Software, CDR's, Cellular Accessories, Videos, DVD's, Music, Injet Refills and much more. Only when you click here now - - > http://www.free-irewards.com/cgi-bin/bmb2 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "happy consumer!" Subject: RE: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 17:21:55 -0700 >> Kalevala is an interesting idea. It was a similiar stunt. > >It was the completely _opposite_ stunt. > >It was Bill and Jimmy writing new music and pretending to be somebody >else. kalevala was bill and zed. jimmy had nothing to do with it. -happyconsumer Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - advertisement - - - - - - Limited Time Offer: FREE Products! Pay only shipping and handling. Get FREE Software, CDR's, Cellular Accessories, Videos, DVD's, Music, Injet Refills and much more. Only when you click here now - - > http://www.free-irewards.com/cgi-bin/bmb2 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "happy consumer!" Subject: RE: (klf) REM Date: 26 Apr 2001 17:33:30 -0700 . Micheal >Stipe then said ' oh yes and that 4 am eternal' this is where i paid >attention, he struggled to come up with the name then said ' oh yes its the >KLF' He said that they often listened to older music for inspiration. >Hooray there was a compilation out around 99/ early 2k or so, called 4am. i wonder if thats what he listens to, or if hes just stupid and forgot the name of the song that inspires him. happyconsumer too much mail!!!!! Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - advertisement - - - - - - Limited Time Offer: FREE Products! Pay only shipping and handling. Get FREE Software, CDR's, Cellular Accessories, Videos, DVD's, Music, Injet Refills and much more. Only when you click here now - - > http://www.free-irewards.com/cgi-bin/bmb2 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek Knight" Subject: RE: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 27 Apr 2001 01:36:39 +0100 Well, having had such a varied reaction, I feel I should mention why I *DIDN'T* actually write my tracks to CD and send to the NME, etc: 1. They're not "professional" enough to be taken seriously. 2. They're remixes of old material. There's nothing particular new about any of it. (No offence to anyone who's done KOMP mixes, but the vasy majority are based on material a good 9 years old. Hardly new music.) Since the NME's chief complaint against 2K - FTM was that it was simply another remix of What Time Is Love, so they're hardly likely to take any more, distinctly amateurish(!), remixes seriously. 3. Let's be brutally honest: Does anyone except the fans on this list really give a toss about the KLF any more? What really sells papers/magazines these days is *new* music. The KLF aren't new music. The kids who buy these mags barely remember them any more. Whether we like it or not, the KLF are old news. We won't create any controversy with rehashes of old music. They might get a little excited about NEW Bill and Jimi material, but not about more remixes. Sorry! Del Derek Knight djnite@bigfoot.com http://www.djnite.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cabrera Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 21:12:49 -0400 Well then, if the climate really is hostile towards rehashing, who's to say we don't have the equipment/talent/resources to put together some original stuff in the style that the KLF would do? Sample some britney or something. Take something popular, make fun of it, and make it funky at the same time. Or just do something that hasn't been done. They did all of this stuff. Either way the goal is to fuck with the public and the radio people, which is completely in the style of the KLF. I see no reason to drop the concept, but maybe not in the style that was originally suggested. Just my 3 cents. Daniel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cabrera Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 26 Apr 2001 21:19:05 -0400 And furthermore, the way to do it would be to slip in a KLF motive from one of their older songs (most likely WTIL, as it's the easiest to recreate and is pretty memorable) but without basing the whole song around it. But if you over do it, it's a rehash. Another 2 cents from me. That's a nickel over here in the states. DC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vischer@access.ch Subject: (klf) Songs inspired by the Manual Date: 27 Apr 2001 05:19:51 +0200 Hi Beside of Edelweiss' "Bring Me Edelweiss" (which is a really good track btw *smile*) are there any songs inspired by the Manual? cheers.. Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) Songs inspired by the Manual Date: 26 Apr 2001 22:41:53 -0500 "Starship Edelwiess" from the same album. Don Hi Beside of Edelweiss' "Bring Me Edelweiss" (which is a really good track btw *smile*) are there any songs inspired by the Manual? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jboy" Subject: Re: (klf) Illuminatus.....How can I liberate a copy of this ? Date: 27 Apr 2001 06:28:02 +0100 BTW - I bet your not the type of guy who downloads songs from Napster > and then goes out and buys the originals if he likes them, you sound like the > type that is helping all these file sharing utils get legal cases brought > against them. Nope I think you are off the mark on this, why not spend the money and invest in something you like as I still believe WHY not support the artist if you like get the 1-2% or what ever it is if you like the the song. Yeah I know the record compnays get between 50-70% of the profit and but the way i see it at least the song I like gets 1-2% rather than buying 10 cds and only liking 1 of them KLF Songs are availble still - Yeah right, Original UK KLF Release not a bootleg or import or dubious, I dont think so, reading the list LTTT/Space/Chill Out bootlegs at HMV . Yes you may have some short of cash selling there copy on ebay and it may be real or it may not, but the point is HMV with bootlegs Bill/Jimmy arent gettting any money the this anyway, as I said if I like and its available then YES I will purchase it although Originals. hope it clears it up and thank you for your comments, P.S. I am looking around for some second-hand book shops, however I did look 2 months ago and all they had were the likes of danielle steel and stephen king but no Illuninus Trilogy so that is why I asked in the first place. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Maarten" Subject: Re: (klf) Songs inspired by the Manual Date: 27 Apr 2001 11:12:10 +0200 Chad Jackson - Hear the drummer (get wicked) [never heard of that one to be honest] & Primal Scream - Loaded --> According to an interview in a Dutch magazine called "oor" from early 90. Maarten > > > > > > "Starship Edelwiess" from the same album. > > > > > > Don > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > Beside of Edelweiss' "Bring Me Edelweiss" (which is a really good track > > > btw *smile*) are there any songs inspired by the Manual? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: (klf) DJ Nite Please Contact Me Date: 27 Apr 2001 11:32:35 +0100 Could DJ Nite please contact me. Cheers, Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) chad jackson Date: 27 Apr 2001 06:31:28 EDT In a message dated 27/04/01 09:15:03 GMT, you write: << Chad Jackson - Hear the drummer (get wicked) [never heard of that one to be honest] >> A 'wicked' tune from early 90's sampling MARK '45 KING' - '900 NUMBER', a brass loop sampled from an old JAMES BROWN groove. Just thought you'd like to know! Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Illuminatus.....How can I liberate a copy of this ? Date: 27 Apr 2001 07:39:35 EDT In a message dated 27/04/01 06:54:14 GMT Daylight Time, jboy53hm@hotmail.com writes: > P.S. I am looking around for some second-hand book shops, however I did look > 2 months ago and all they had were the likes of danielle steel and stephen > king but no Illuninus Trilogy so that is why I asked in the first place. > If you use the link below (the top link is for UK, bottom is American), you can buy it from Amazon for 11.29 (UKP) + P&P (UK site) or $14.36 + P&P (American site) UK http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0440539811/adultenuresisweb/ USA http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0440539811/adultenuresisweb/ (Amazon may have it elsewhere replace the .COM / .CO.UK extension with your local Amazons extension, like .CO.JP), if your wondering about the bit at the end (/adultenuresisweb/) that's my referal id. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Songs inspired by the Manual Date: 27 Apr 2001 07:50:19 EDT In a message dated 27/04/01 10:15:03 GMT Daylight Time, bouwes23@hotmail.com writes: > Chad Jackson - Hear the drummer (get wicked) [never heard of that one to be > honest] I think it's actually called Hit the drummer (get wicked) - you might be able to find it on Napster now :D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Songs inspired by the Manual Date: 27 Apr 2001 08:03:13 EDT In a message dated 27/04/01 11:51:31 GMT, you write: << > Chad Jackson - Hear the drummer (get wicked) [never heard of that one to be > honest] I think it's actually called Hit the drummer (get wicked) - you might be able to find it on Napster now :D >> Nope! It's called HEAR THE DRUMMER (GET WICKED) and it's on BIG WAVE records, it came out 1990. And I have a spare 12" if anyone wants it. Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Songs inspired by the Manual Date: 27 Apr 2001 08:12:11 EDT In a message dated 27/04/01 13:03:53 GMT Daylight Time, Milestighe@aol.com writes: > Nope! It's called HEAR THE DRUMMER (GET WICKED) and it's on BIG WAVE records, > > it came out 1990. And I have a spare 12" if anyone wants it. Yep you're right, I just found it myself on Aimster, I had no idea it was influenced by The Manual, if I had I would have downloaded it ages ago. Anyway I got it now, if anyone want's it on MP3 you can either a. find it on Aimster, or b. e-mail me and I'll send it via e-mail (if theres enough demand I might put it on a website somewhere) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tone" Subject: (klf) Re: Illuminatus.....How can I liberate a copy of this ? Date: 27 Apr 2001 12:27:49 -0000 >How many people hear bought a KLF record in 1987-1989 before they know who KLF were, not many i suspect i was homeless in london during summer '87, happened to be killing time wandering about in virgin records on oxford street, and noticed a strange black and white cassette box titled 'justified ancients of mu mu - 1987 what the fuck's going on?' recognising the illuminatus reference i promptly stole it. didn't get a chance to hear it til i buggered off back up to scotland a couple of months later, but bang! the sounds on that cassetee changed my life. so there you are. t # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: (klf) KLF Discology Date: 27 Apr 2001 08:37:27 EDT A while ago someone did me a copy of the Beatles Discology, which is a CD with every Beatles song on it, in highly compressed WAV format.(with the exception of Paul and John's seperate works). It included graphics of all the albums and lyrics and one special WAV file of them playing at the beeb (it's special 'cos the actually player doesn't play the track, you find it if you add the contents of the album to WinAMP). I'm just wondering if anyone has done this type of CD for The KLF, if so is it available in the UK? if not maybe now is a good time to think about doing something like this, before all KLF work get's so unplayable or badly damaged or scratched that no-one will ever hear the sounds of the Justified & Ancient ones again. What does everybody reckon? (maybe the special track could be either The Brit Awards 92 or K Cera Cera) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Maarten" Subject: (klf) KLF 005S Date: 27 Apr 2001 16:14:22 +0200 I just received a one sided copy of 3 am eternal. It's a 7", one sided with label. On the label is stamped "radio edit". Run off groove only says "KLF - 005 - S - 1". The sleeve has got a sticker which says "Radio Edit; Machine gun intro edited out; Dur :- 2.56 mins" The other side has got a plain white label, no tone groove. What's the difference with : 7"WL: 1991 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 005S) [promo x500; one-sided; Jan 91] 3:13 3 a.m. Eternal (radio freedom edit) Maarten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) KLF Discology Date: 27 Apr 2001 10:34:47 EDT In a message dated 27/04/01 12:38:21 GMT, you write: << I'm just wondering if anyone has done this type of CD for The KLF, if so=20 is=20 it available in the UK? >> I often see on ebay, a seller who sells complete discographies on CD (they=20 say they are not CDR's but they have to be) for =A311.96. Look up any major=20 artist, and I bet you you'll see this seller with an ad. I have seen them=20 advertising a complete KLF set on one CD before. It's a good idea, but the seller is being a bit of a 'pirate' wouldn't you=20 say? Miles=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Maarten" Subject: (klf) KLF 005S Date: 27 Apr 2001 16:40:36 +0200 > > Please ignore my first email, this is the right one ;) > > > > I just received a one sided copy of 3 am eternal. It's a 7", one sided with > > an orange > > label containing the usual information. On that label is stamped "radio > > edit". Run off groove only says "KLF - 005 - S - 1". The sleeve has got a > > sticker which says "Radio Edit; Machine gun intro edited out; Dur :- 2.56 > > mins" > > The other side has got a plain white label, no tone groove. > > > > What's the difference with: > > 7"WL: 1991 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 005S) [promo x500; one-sided; Jan 91] > > 3:13 3 a.m. Eternal (radio freedom edit) > > > > Maarten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Lee" Subject: Re: (klf) KLF 005S Date: 27 Apr 2001 16:57:12 +0100 Many many years ago I typed that very label and stuck it on countless 7"s. Oh well it was a living I suppose The source of these "stickered" versions was Appearing and the reason for the exclusion of the machine guns was it was at the time of the Gulf War. Remember Massive Attack also changed their name to Massive for a period of time! Cheers Andy >> > I just received a one sided copy of 3 am eternal. It's a 7", one sided >with >> > an orange >> > label containing the usual information. On that label is stamped "radio >> > edit". Run off groove only says "KLF - 005 - S - 1". The sleeve has got >a >> > sticker which says "Radio Edit; Machine gun intro edited out; Dur :- >2.56 >> > mins" >> > The other side has got a plain white label, no tone groove. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cabrera Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF have NOT hotwired anything but your imagination...? Date: 27 Apr 2001 12:10:30 -0400 Um... did someone kill this idea in private? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) the trinity Date: 27 Apr 2001 12:35:33 EDT message to ; craig earnshaw, todd steponick, timo toivonen. your CDR's of 2 mixes of 'the trinity' will be sent monday/tuesday Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Illuminatus.....How can I liberate a copy of this ? Date: 27 Apr 2001 12:44:49 EDT In a message dated 4/27/01 4:40:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Darrenforster99@aol.com writes: > If you use the link below (the top link is for UK, bottom is American), you > can buy it from Amazon for 11.29 (UKP) + P&P (UK site) or $14.36 + P&P > (American site) Also try www.bibliofind.com. There's quite a few copies, some as low as $5-6. But with shipping you might as well pay $14.95 for a new copy. I'm sure it will become much handled like my copy. :) -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 27 Apr 2001 12:51:03 EDT > I know I've been pretty down on some recent ideas on this list, but I'm > afraid this is another one I'm going to be negative about... > > I think you're wasting your time, for two main reasons. I agree with Stuart on this, but I'm just going to let it run it's course. In the original idea someone envisioned Rolling Stone doing articles and trying to interview B&J. I doubt anything like this will happen. In fact I doubt you'll ever hear anything about it after the discs are sent out. > The new idea is somebody else rehashing old music and pretending to be > Bill and Jimmy. (someone else wrote) > Well then, if the climate really is hostile towards rehashing, who's to say we > don't have the equipment/talent/resources to put together some original stuff in > the style that the KLF would do I wonder how many keen on this idea remember 2087... -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rob Myers" Subject: (klf) STP Twentythree Date: 27 Apr 2001 16:54:43 Since "Let Jimi Take Over" was mentioned yesterday, I wondered if anyone has any info on the other STP Twentythree track, "Goldfinger". All the discography says is that it's a white label on Wau! Mr. Modo. Does anyone have any more info about this track? Anybody know who the group is composed of? Back in 1990 I recorded two different versions of "Goldfinger" off the radio... both are similar, but one version has more samples from Bond movies... the other version has a parody of a New York Telephone ad at the beginning of the track. They don't sound particularly KLF-esque or Orb-esque to me (that's probably the point of using a different moniker anyway). I'm going to try to convert the tapes I have to MP3 format this weekend so everybody can check out the tracks... the quality is pretty good overall, but the DJ scratches and mixes over both tracks. FWIW, the radio show was "Massive Throbbing Beat" with the Artillerymen, 89.7 WITR, Rochester, NY, USA... they used to play rap, house and industrial including lots of other KLF tracks... Rob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 27 Apr 2001 15:26:44 EDT In a message dated 27/04/01 17:53:38 GMT Daylight Time, TheMgnt@aol.com writes: > I wonder how many keen on this idea remember 2087... > What happened with 2087? Was it a remix of 1987 or something? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuey and Michelle Subject: Re: (klf) RE: KLF stuff available in UK Date: 28 Apr 2001 15:44:42 +1200 Steve Allan wrote: > Or, riding a Red Dragon, standing in the North Sea at Balmedie beach, Aberdeen (beautiful, heaps of dunes) and listening to Chill Out start to finish. with all this talk of world records on the list recently, I wonder, does Balmedie Beach still hold the world record for the longest sandcastle ever? this was done 10 or 15 years ago by the staff and students of the local school, and was over 5 miles long. I miss Scotland, but I'll be back in Aberdeen and Edinburgh in July for a flying visit. got to the bottom? Sorry, there is NO KLF content in this email. -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Stuey is webmaster of the New Zealand Green Party: http://www.greens.org.nz/ And webmaster of his own personal website too: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuey and Michelle Subject: (klf) Re: what's with all this 23 23 23!!! crap? Date: 28 Apr 2001 15:58:32 +1200 Chad Gombosi wrote: > I mean what's with all this 23 23 23!!! crap? We all know the deal with 23, > the Illuminatis, etc but it's actual presence in KLF tracks is slim to none > as far as I know. How many KLF songs or packages actualy even mention the > number? I can't think of any songs that say "23" in them. The Madruda Eterna > Club Mix 12" has it in it's catalog number I think, but that's almost it. > There are more refeneces to 23 in an episode of Max Headroom than any track > on the White Room. I have a list of all the references to 23 in the KLF's body of work at: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/klf/23.htm (almost at the bottom of the page/article) There are loads. Admittely the only song that says 23 in it is: "23 years is a mighty long time" is a line in 'Next' on 1987. and the rest are track lengths, video appearances and especially dates that they did stuff. You miss the most important catalogue no. Their very first single was JAMS23!!!! Doh! I maintain that one of the reasons that the KLF chose to do certain projects was because the date was the 23rd. A promoter asks them "do you want to do this show on the 22nd" they say No. A promoter asks them "do you want to do this show on the 23rd" they say Yes. cheers -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Stuey is webmaster of the New Zealand Green Party: http://www.greens.org.nz/ And webmaster of his own personal website too: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vischer@access.ch Subject: Re: (klf) KLF's lawyer Date: 28 Apr 2001 07:21:11 +0200 If anyone has the address of their lawyers, please mail it to me too; thanks! I can't remember and I'm too lazy too have a look on but can someone tell me who are the lawyers who managed their legal stuff before the WandaD-thing (around 1990)? cheers.. Simon Ford Timelord schrieb: > Hi, > > i can remember that someone got contact with Bill&Jimmy's Lawyer as there > was this thing with Wanda D and here "KLF"-Livetour. > Has somebody the mailadress, adress or telephone number of their lawyer? > If yes, please send it to me private and not to the list.... > > Thanx in advance > > Theee Foooorrrdddd Tiiimmmeeeellloooorrrrddddd # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "happy consumer!" Subject: (klf) ***K THE MILLENNIUM Date: 28 Apr 2001 00:12:48 -0700 "about 2 years ago, my friends and i got a camera, some flyers, and set off to fuck the millenium. we put up fliers all around philadelphia; the art museum, south street, around university of the arts and center city. i digitized the video, and if youve got a good connection, you can download all 125 megs or so, of it. or you can just look at the photos. click on the bell. http://WWW.AUX2.CX/times.html -odc1" -happyconsumer Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - advertisement - - - - - - Limited Time Offer: FREE Products! Pay only shipping and handling. Get FREE Software, CDR's, Cellular Accessories, Videos, DVD's, Music, Injet Refills and much more. Only when you click here now - - > http://www.free-irewards.com/cgi-bin/bmb2 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: (klf) Love Trance sample Date: 28 Apr 2001 12:13:12 +0200 Anybody else noticed that the sample from the beginning ("penetration, seven minutes..." (?)) is also used in Space (Mars)? Does it make the record more believable? -- Torsten Pattberg www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) My ebay item Date: 28 Apr 2001 06:33:31 EDT Just to let you all know my auctions on ebay for ; JAMS 28T (I SIDED GREY VINYL) AND KLF 4R, ARE DUE TO END IN 45 MINS, SO GET YOU BIDS IN!!!! MILES # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) KLF's lawyer Date: 28 Apr 2001 08:22:44 EDT In a message dated 28/04/01 06:21:43 GMT Daylight Time, vischer@access.ch writes: > If anyone has the address of their lawyers, please mail it to me too; thanks! When we were on about "The KLF has now hotwired your jag" (the plan to pose as the KLF and release remixes to NME), I asked what happened to 2087 and someone provided me with details as well as a copy of the letter from "The KLF's lawyer/solicitor". The address at the bottom is as follows:- > FEEDBACK COMMUNICATIONS > _ _ _ _ > |_|_|_| \ feedback.com > |_|_ _ / PO Box 808, Hook, RG29 1UF, United Kingdom > |_|_|_| \ Telephone: +44 (0) 1256-862865 Facsimile: +44 (0) 1256-862182 > |_|_____/ internet@feedback.com URL: http://www.feedback.com/ I checked their website though and it's none existent - so if you want to get in touch with them I would recommend phoning them not e-mailing them. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: (klf) gfe please contact me immediately Date: 28 Apr 2001 14:25:34 +0200 gfe, please mail me back... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: Re: (klf) KLF's lawyer Date: 28 Apr 2001 14:32:05 +0200 If someone gets him on the phone ask him about those "bootlegs" or if they are legal represses.... At 08:22 28.04.01 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 28/04/01 06:21:43 GMT Daylight Time, vischer@access.ch >writes: > > > If anyone has the address of their lawyers, please mail it to me too; >thanks! > > >When we were on about "The KLF has now hotwired your jag" (the plan to pose >as the KLF and release remixes to NME), I asked what happened to 2087 and >someone provided me with details as well as a copy of the letter from "The >KLF's lawyer/solicitor". The address at the bottom is as follows:- > > > FEEDBACK COMMUNICATIONS > > _ _ _ _ > > |_|_|_| \ feedback.com > > |_|_ _ / PO Box 808, Hook, RG29 1UF, United Kingdom > > |_|_|_| \ Telephone: +44 (0) 1256-862865 Facsimile: +44 (0) 1256-862182 > > |_|_____/ internet@feedback.com URL: http://www.feedback.com/ > >I checked their website though and it's none existent - so if you want to get >in touch with them I would recommend phoning them not e-mailing them. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Lee" Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Arse Date: 26 Apr 2001 20:42:52 +0100 Sorry guys This the worst idea ever I can think of 23+ good reasons why not! Please don't Thanks Andy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ChillOut Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Have Now Hotwired Your Jag Date: 28 Apr 2001 15:57:28 -0400 Message text written by Daniel Cabrera >who's to say we don't have the equipment/talent/resources to put together some original stuff< now we're getting there of course the other thing that's worth thinking about is sending it to crapola just a thought : ) + ( . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lindgren" Subject: (klf) Modern-Scooter-KLF Date: 28 Apr 2001 20:09:06 a friend just called me and said the he got a cd in the mail, its Modern Talkings "win the race", its remixed by Scooter and its got a couple of KLFsamples, not the first time Scooter samples KLF (let me be your valentine is an example). I just heard a bit of it through the phone and have no more info about it. I havenīt had time to read the lists mail for almost two weeks, but I donīt think its been mentioned by reading the subjects. - david _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: Re: (klf) Modern-Scooter-KLF Date: 28 Apr 2001 22:30:27 +0200 > info about it. I havenīt had time to read the lists mail for almost two > weeks, but I donīt think its been mentioned by reading the subjects. I heard about it before, but it hasnīt been mentioned here yet. Well, although I neither like Modern Talking nor Scooter, I think I got to give it a listen... cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: (klf) Nobody? Date: 29 Apr 2001 18:09:26 +0200 Nobody mentions Bill's birthday yet...?! -- Torsten Pattberg www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: Re: (klf) Nobody? Date: 29 Apr 2001 18:24:52 +0200 At 18:09 29.04.01 +0200, you wrote: >Nobody mentions Bill's birthday yet...?! Oh yes, you! Just checked your page this morning! >-- >Torsten Pattberg >www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: Re: (klf) Nobody? Date: 29 Apr 2001 18:32:08 +0200 > >Nobody mentions Bill's birthday yet...?! > > Oh yes, you! Just checked your page this morning! Mentioned it in the ICQ today. Well, at least he can stay in bed on his birthday... thank god itīs sunday :-) cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: (klf) Oldskool - Offtopic Date: 29 Apr 2001 19:42:09 +0200 Hi, could somebody give me a hint? I'm looking for online record shops that are specialized in Oldskool/Breakbeat Records (Old Moving Shadow Stuff and so on...) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) CHOC ICE 3 ON EBAY Date: 29 Apr 2001 15:27:49 EDT Just to let you all know my CHOC ICE 3 auction on ebay ends in 40 hours time= ,=20 currently at =A355, bids always welcome!! Cheers, Miles=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alex" Subject: Re: (klf) Oldskool - Offtopic Date: 29 Apr 2001 20:42:31 +0100 hard to find records in brum. I dunno there website. could be www.hardtofind.co.uk or hardtofindrecords.co.uk ;) heh. I reccomend a good load of old suburban base meself :) good stuff. alex # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) Oldskool - Offtopic Date: 29 Apr 2001 21:26:50 +0100 (BST) On Sun 29 Apr, Alex wrote: > > hard to find records in brum. > I dunno there website. could be www.hardtofind.co.uk > or hardtofindrecords.co.uk > ;) Actually it's http://www.htfr.co.uk/ Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Nobody? Date: 29 Apr 2001 19:23:13 EDT In a message dated 29/04/01 17:11:38 GMT Daylight Time, Torsten@Klf.De writes: > Nobody mentions Bill's birthday yet...?! Does that mean he'll have to change his book to 46? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: (klf) KLF Megamix (Euro-Mix) Date: 29 Apr 2001 19:40:33 EDT Whilst searching Napster last night for KLF (usually comes up with 3AM Eternal or LTTT both of which I have originals) I came across a new KLF track. KLF Megamix (Euromix). I downloaded it and the mix sounds quite professional, is megamix actually done by The KLF? Anybody got anymore details on this megamix? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Snarfy Subject: (klf) Kickboxing and the KLF Date: 29 Apr 2001 21:02:27 -0400 (EDT) yikes.. from ebay: FACTORY SEALED BRAND NEW Never opened Volume 1 Tae Kick Boxing cd. 14 songs to kick to! Le Click, La Bounch, Wild Orchid, The KLF, Pseudo Echo, Unlimited, Kim Wilde, Mr Lee, Bananarama, Ticki Sue Robinson, and MORE! Buyer agrees to pay 2.95 SH GREAT ADDITION TO ANY COLLECTION! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan hamilton Subject: (klf) KLF Kassingles Date: 29 Apr 2001 18:59:48 -0700 (PDT) Any special edits or other goodies (other that rabid completism)make it worthwhile buying KLF Cassingles? Ta, Alan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: Re: (klf) KLF Megamix (Euro-Mix) Date: 30 Apr 2001 09:46:15 +0200 > track. KLF Megamix (Euromix). I downloaded it and the mix sounds quite > professional, is megamix actually done by The KLF? Anybody got anymore > details on this megamix? http://www.klf.de/discography/index.php3?search=euro-mixx -- Torsten Pattberg www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: Re: (klf) KLF Megamix (Euro-Mix) Date: 30 Apr 2001 09:52:59 +0200 > > track. KLF Megamix (Euromix). I downloaded it and the mix sounds quite > > professional, is megamix actually done by The KLF? Anybody got anymore > > details on this megamix? Although itīs quite professional, the record is far too overdriven/boomy at some points. Canīt compete with the DMC Minimix imho. But not bad, really. Pops up at eBay quite regularly - watch out if youīre interested. cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: (klf) January labels Date: 30 Apr 2001 10:11:12 +0200 Hi, could anybody who owns KLF92 Promo 2 please tell me what his labels look like ? We (Marteen & me) got two different a-side labels. The b-side is the same, with some white label stickered over another label saying "Frances Nero" (?) and the number "DEBTX 3109". Thanks for your help ! cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) 3am pure trance Date: 30 Apr 2001 05:11:38 -0400 (EDT) What is the difference between the 3am pure trance black cover with pink number 2 and the pink cover with the black number 2? I noticed that on the pink cover w/black number that it doesnt say pure trance up top. Where did the songs on this version come from? Also is there other pure trance songs(1-5) with reverse color covers? thanks for any help Doc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rockman=20Mike?= Subject: Re: (klf) January labels Date: 30 Apr 2001 10:16:23 +0100 (BST) --- c-Row wrote: > > Hi, > > could anybody who owns KLF92 Promo 2 please tell me > what his labels look > like ? We (Marteen & me) got two different a-side > labels. The b-side is the > same, with some white label stickered over another > label saying "Frances > Nero" (?) and the number "DEBTX 3109". > Hi My copy bought in 1993 in Reading off a dealer who apparently bought it off some one who used to transport them to or from where they were made,I can't verify how true this is,but it sounded ok. The A side label is plain white with klf 92 promo 2 A in the run off groove. The b side label is plain white and there is no groove as it is one sided. It also came in a generic KLF sleeve Hope this helps, I'm off for a few days, but hopefully still be able to visit list. Mike ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) 3am pure trance Date: 30 Apr 2001 05:22:26 EDT > What is the difference between the 3am pure trance black cover with > pink number 2 and the pink cover with the black number 2? The reverse color covers are remix versions. check the discog for track listings. > Also is there other pure trance songs(1-5) with reverse color covers? PT 1 -paul Currently in rotation: Proclaimers - Persevere sampler; Kraftwerk - Der Robotmix; Rutles - Rutles, Archaeology www.sayhername.com -- Too Much Joy Official Website Tell your friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) 3am pure trance Date: 30 Apr 2001 05:42:00 EDT << What is the difference between the 3am pure trance black cover with pink number 2 and the pink cover with the black number 2? The pink cover with black number 2 are the UK REMIXES << Also is there other pure trance songs(1-5) with reverse color covers? No other reverse covers to my knowledge. Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) r.e. euro mixx Date: 30 Apr 2001 05:55:42 EDT The euro mixx was a DJ subscription service, like the DMC and Mastermix. The Mix is definately not by the KLF Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) KLF 008R BOOTLEG Date: 30 Apr 2001 06:58:08 EDT I have had loads of requests for the duplicate records I have, the first 2 replies I got have secured the records. They are for; Brent Hoyler and Tony Stuart. Sorry to the rest of you, wish I'd bought some more!! Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) KLF Megamix (Euro-Mix) Date: 30 Apr 2001 09:47:14 EDT In a message dated 30/04/01 08:43:38 GMT Daylight Time, Torsten@Klf.De writes: > http://www.klf.de/discography/index.php3?search=euro-mixx > That's strange it says in the discography 11.28 yet the one I downloaded is 8.41, and the one I downloaded sounds a complete track from beginning to end. Am I missing something somewhere? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Parker Subject: RE: (klf) KLF 008R re-release Date: 30 Apr 2001 16:39:23 +0100 If any one else wants a copy of this try e-mailing mark@hedonizm.demon.co.uk web-site www.hedonizm.demon.co.uk He has four copies in and can get more. He claims these are offical pressings made from the original masters and from a reputable distributor. He should know as he was selling KLF stuff thru Record Collector magazine back in 91. James www.forcetechno.freeuk.com This e-mail message and any attachment(s) are CONFIDENTIAL and may contain legally privileged information. 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Please note that any views expressed in this email may be those of the originator and do not necessarily reflect those of this organisation. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Allan" Subject: Re: (klf) KLF Megamix (Euro-Mix) Date: 30 Apr 2001 16:39:07 +0100 In a message dated Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:47:14 EDT Darrenforster99@aol.com writes: >That's strange it says in the discography 11.28 yet the one I downloaded is 8.41, and the one I downloaded sounds a complete track from beginning to end. Am I missing something somewhere? My 12" says on the label it's 11.28 I'm playing it now in order to time it. I just LOVE the way the track sctratches between samples, almost clumsy & yet it really makes me want to get up on my feet! If it's on a tape in the car I always end up pumping my fist out the window :) My Timing: around 11.20 PS This is yet another of my records bought from Sister Ray in SoHo. BTW for the person asking about Balmedie beach. Some sort of sand castle record was broken by the pupils of Ellon Academy, Aberdeenshire. Only about 2 or 3 years ago apparently. Can't find out much more info though. Cheers, Steve. -- The JAMs Are Gonna Tattoo Ya http://www.geocities.com/mumu23uk/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: (klf) 008R run out groove Date: 30 Apr 2001 17:53:10 +0200 Seems like the first mail got lost... just another question - if anybody out there owns a 008R, could you please tell me what your run out groove says ? Shouldnīt it be Adrenalin like all the other Pure Trance releases ? cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Allan" Subject: RE: (klf) 008R run out groove Date: 30 Apr 2001 17:25:29 +0100 c-Row@gmx.de wrote: >just another question - if anybody out there owns a 008R, could you plea= se tell me what your run out groove says ? Shouldn=B4t it be Adrenalin li= ke all the other Pure Trance releases ? Original: Side A: KLF 8 R A1 also PR P (hand written) (The side with the writing on label) Side B: KLF 8 R B1 also PR P (hand written) (The side with the KLF Comms logo) New bootleg Side A: KLF008R A (stamped not wtitten) Side B: KLF008R B (stamped not written) Also, the run out groove on the new issue is much wider than the original= , 35mm compared to 20mm. Most obviously though, the pink colour on the ne= w one is MUCH darker, on both the cover and the labels. Steve. --=20 The JAMs Are Gonna Tattoo Ya http://www.geocities.com/mumu23uk/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE Date: 30 Apr 2001 13:33:25 EDT Having a good time finding rare bits lately, found the white label (1 sided ) of ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE in Beanos record store (biggest second hand record store in europe!) Collection is coming on, but still after other white labels, as this is the only one I have, anyone got any doubles they might want to sell?? Email me directly : milestighe@aol.com Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark weston" Subject: (klf) klf005T Date: 30 Apr 2001 21:36:33 +0100 Hello all, Has anyone on the list got a spare copy of this for sale. KLF005T. Regards Mark W. Portsmouth England # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) 3am pure trance Date: 30 Apr 2001 21:44:59 -0400 (EDT) as far as the 3am eternal pink cover w/black number how available/rare is it? And how avail/rare is the black w/pink numbers? Doc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Bennett" Subject: (klf) Angels 1-5 Date: 01 May 2001 00:25:46 -0400 Well..I just got finished listening to the Angels 1-5 peel session for the first time...(if you don't know what this is, it's Jimmy and Cress' band Pre-KLF) (see below) Rating Scale 1-4 K's Musical quality rating : KK Depth of lyrics : KK Sound Quality : KK Interestingness factor: KKKK The listing in Ken Garner's book "In Session Tonight" says this: band or artist: Angels 1-5 first broadcast date: 8 July 1981 programme: John Peel titles: Cut And Dried, Accident In Studio 4, Living For The Future, Workface line-up: Cressida Bowyer (vocals), Jimmy Cauty (guitar, vocals), John Cook (bass, vocals), Martin Cottis (drums, vocals) recording date: 1 July 1981 studio: Langham 1 producer: Chris Lycett engineer: Nick Gomm anything else: 'That was the last session I went along to,' says Peel; 'I think because the woman singer had been in another band we'd liked before. Now what were they called? ...er...er...' This was also, coincidentally, the last Peel session recorded in Langham 1. I know some people (Lazlo included) had asked about this, so this is my official response. Some day if I get around to it, i may encode these to mp3.. p.s. Milestighe.. I think this is almost equally as hard to find as your love trance..(I almost gave up believing it even existed..) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf