From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: (klf) Eternity Project One Date: 01 Aug 1998 23:11:06 -0000 Can anybody tell me were to find a cover scan of the " Eternity Project One" CD/LP Thanks in advance Lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "24 Hr. Service Station" Subject: (klf) Vote update and a correction Date: 02 Aug 1998 11:39:08 -0400 Oops! I worked at the record shop in 1988 and not 1998 as stated. Also the voting has ALL been positive, with 9 Space and 10 LSOM3 so far... If you haven't yet voted, I will continue collecting the ballots until next Sunday night. This should give everyone a chance to read the news and get one in. Thanks! HERE'S THE INFO AGAIN: Now that MP3's and CDRs are accessible to more people, the time comes to ask this question: If there was to be a "Lost Sounds of Mu Vol. 3" or another disc of a vital reissue, such as "Space", "Who Killed The JAMMs", "Shag Times" or "The What Time Is Love Story" would you buy the pressed disc? I would have the disc pre manufactured and will announce to the list when it is available. The discs will be shipped the day after your payment arrives. Simple and easy. So please write to me just a quick note with "KLF YES" or "KLF NO" in the subject. If there are enough positive responses, we will send the next project off to press in August. It will be a cleaned up and amplified version of "Space" with extra tracks, or another rarities comp, LSOM3. If you answer yes, please state your preference in the subject : "KLF YES SPACE" or "KLF YES LSOM3" -- audio, Marshall Dickson 24 Hr. Service Station http://24hr.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jon Subject: (klf) Orb/klf goodies for sale Date: 02 Aug 1998 14:33:46 -0700 hi everyone, I told a few people awhile ago that I had some things for sale and spoke a bit too soon, it took a month to get that orb stuff over here! Anyway, I have some more stuff for sale, so it was definitely worth the wait. If any of you are interested in the following, let me know. Radio Orb: Orb Mixes, Remixes and Choice Dub Reggae Cuts US promo compilation cassette (no catalog number listed) Cover is black and white with the Orb logo hovering over earth. Tracklisting as follows: Side 1: Spanich Castles in Space-Orb Satellite Serenade (remix)-Suzuki Towers of Dub-Orb Side 2: Towers of Dub-orb Waterford (remix)-YMO Robinson Crusoe (remix)-Art of Noise UF ORb-Orb Orbular Bells (remix)-Mike Oldfield Email any offers for this item. Orb-Asylum UK promo 12" with unreleased Bloodsugar remix, handwritten on label. (The bloodsugar mix is unreleased, it's over 10 minutes long. Orb/KLF (plus related): Sun Electric-O'Locco reissue 12" Parts 1-4 (Orbital therapy--orb and KLF remixes Sun Electric-O'Locco original promo 12" (parts 5-8)--orb and KLF remixes Saxophonettes-Secret Squirrel UK 12" remixes by Orb Orb-Perpetual Dawn UK 7" Disco 2000-Uptight D20003T remixes 12" Marathon-Movin UK promo 12" Youth, Fehlmann remixes (no Orb involvement) System 7-Sinbad/Quest UK 12" moody boys remixes Orb-perpetual Dawn original UK cd single Orb-Oxbow Lakes UK cd single Blue Pearl-Mother Dawn promo UK cd single, 2 remixes (no orb involvement) Timelords-Doctorin' the Tardis cd video JAMS-It's Grim Up North cd single, 2 copies available I have one more copy of the O'Locco (original 1-4 12")--but the first one is on hold--thanks, jon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Helvard Subject: Re: (klf) Sister Ray Date: 04 Aug 1998 12:50:54 +0200 At 19.04 31-07-98 +0200, you wrote: > >Hi, >I lost the URL of Sister Ray, London. Can someone please give me the URL > >(the one where you can order CDs online???). Thanx... > I didn't know that even was an URL, but the e-mail adress is: sisterray@thenet.co.uk I believe that this is for order only, not for general questions. - Thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (klf) in print or what? Date: 05 Aug 1998 17:47:07 EST5EDT I haven't posted too much to THIS list (now the Orb list, on the other hand...), but I've seen lotsa folks looking for this KLF release and that. I saw (or thought I saw) the other day someone looking for the White Room cd.... Isn't this still in print? Or is it out of print now? How 'bout Chill Out? Also--and this is as a naive KLF starter--what's up with The Timelords? I've had the single "Doctorin' the Tardis" for several years now--features 4 different mixes, plus the "original, uncut, 'What Time Is Love?'".... Have "The Timelords" ever done anything BESIDES "Doctorin'"? (No smartass remarks like, "Yeah, dude, everything by the JAMMS and KLF....") ;-) Later! Vincent # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) in print or what? Date: 05 Aug 1998 17:41:54 -0500 White Room cd.... Isn't this still in print? Or is it out of print now? How 'bout Chill Out? Have "The Timelords" ever done anything BESIDES "Doctorin'"? (No smartass remarks like, "Yeah, dude, everything by the JAMMS and KLF....") ;-) The US version of the White Room is still available. But it is not as good as the original. I think it's still available in Japan as well. Chill out is not in print, but it's still easy to find new copies of the US version. I am still looking for the UK versions of both of these, so if you want to sell or trade one let me know. The only other Timelords release is Gary in the Tardis. It has a very nice ambient minimal version. Don "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Vince Frank [SMTP:vpfad1@scotus.sfcpa.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 1998 12:47 PM > To: klf@xmission.com > Subject: (klf) in print or what? > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Quahogs" Subject: Re: (klf) in print or what? Date: 05 Aug 1998 18:57:03 -0500 >I haven't posted too much to THIS list (now the Orb list, on the >other hand...), but I've seen lotsa folks looking for this KLF >release and that. I saw (or thought I saw) the other day someone >looking for the White Room cd.... Isn't this still in print? Or >is it out of print now? How 'bout Chill Out? As someone who just finished reading the FAQ (wow, huge...), this is still fresh in my mind. But, to avoid me getting it wrong, here's a paste from the FAQ: ==================== 2.001: Which of their records is still available? All releases on the band's KLF Communications label (UK) were deleted when they retired, but non-UK licensors of the music (including Arista and TVT in the US, Liberation in Australia, and Toshiba/EMI in Japan) will still have the right to produce KLF records for several years. But it will be a finite amount of time, and it seems likely that Drummond and Cauty will never release their product again, so you should think seriously about purchasing what you can now, while you can. Of course, original KLF Communications releases still crop up in second-hand record shops. And list members occasionally sell some things off. In the UK most of the foreign CD's are available on import quite easily. This then is what's available: Albums: History of The JAMs (US: TVT) Chill Out (US: WaxTrax!/TVT 7155-2) The White Room (US: Arista) Singles: What Time Is Love? (JAP: EMI TOCP 7401) 3 a.m. Eternal (JAP: EMI TOCP 7402) Last Train To Trancentral (JAP: EMI TOCP 7403) Its Grim Up North Justified And Ancient America: What Time Is Love? In addition there are two widely available bootlegs: Ultra Rare Trax (KLF URT1) (CD) Chill Out/Space (Wix Trax! KLF URT3) (CD/tape) ======== My own note to this: I just got the White Room and the Justified and Ancient single packaged together. I wonder: is TVT trying to get rid of their stock? The packaging seemed hastily done: the front insert of the J&A single is shoved (literally -- it's wrinkled) into the back flap, where the songs were listed on the WR cd. >Also--and this is as a naive KLF starter--what's up with The >Timelords? I've had the single "Doctorin' the Tardis" for >several years now--features 4 different mixes, plus the "original, >uncut, 'What Time Is Love?'".... Have "The Timelords" ever >done anything BESIDES "Doctorin'"? (No smartass remarks >like, "Yeah, dude, everything by the JAMMS and KLF....") ;-) I also recently read through the Discography. The only other Timelords I can remember was The Manual" -- the book they did on how to get a #1 single. --Quahogs-- "Just wait until the dead babies start marching... then you will be eating your words!." --King Fausto, from "The Forbidden Zone" Quahogs http://skapunx.ml.org/~k944 k944@skapunx.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (klf) in print or what? Date: 06 Aug 1998 02:01:31 EDT > My own note to this: I just got the White Room and the Justified and Ancient > single packaged together. I wonder: is TVT trying to get rid of their > stock? The packaging seemed hastily done: the front insert of the J&A > single is shoved (literally -- it's wrinkled) into the back flap, where the > songs were listed on the WR cd. The WR/J&A set has been the standard issue since it was put together when J&A was a hit over here. I have not really seen WR in the new cd section in some time, but that could be mainly due to a lack of serious interest anymore by the general public. I can always find it used. Chill Out is near invisible. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik Subject: Re: (klf) in print or what? Date: 06 Aug 1998 08:54:39 +0200 (MET DST) Here are some KLF items I spotted in London last week (in case anybody is going there): @ HMV Oxford Street: The White Room (USA, with J&A single) History of the JAMS (USA) Chill Out (USA) (all filed under KLF, I believe in the Techno/House or Electronic section) ***K THE MILLENNIUM T-shirt (filed under KLF in the music T-shirts section, might be out of stock after I bought the one that was standing there) @ Tower Records Piccadilly Circus: The White Room (USA, with J&A single) Chill Out (USA) (all filed under Kopyright Liberation Front, in the Dance section between the ground floor and the basement) The Man (original 1990 Creation Records CD) (filed under Drummond in the Pop/Rock section) nothing sensational at the Notting Hill Gate Record Exchange, but as usual some very nice things to complete one's collection. They still have the sleeves/labels of KLF006T and KLF007T at insane prices. KLF vs. ENT 12" available as well (yes, it's a bootleg, but the shop doesn't know, they usually don't sell bootlegs. Plus they have no KLF CDs whatsoever). :-) erik ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik@xdollarx.com | http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~gander/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Miller Subject: (klf) Compilation with exclusive/rare KLF remix for sale/trade. Date: 06 Aug 1998 03:04:25 -0400 (EDT) Howdy. I have this dj-mix compilation which I would like to trade for something else or possibly sell: V/A - "Art Of Compilation CD8" (DIDX 011975 - Art Of Mix) ... DJ CD feat: KLF, OMD, Pet Shop Boys, Moskwa TV, DK Dance, Greater Than One, Cubic 22, Eon, 2 Frenchmen, LA Style, T99 The exclusive KLF track is "3 A.M. Eternal (justified mix)" (6:40). For more info on this release or to see a copy of my wantlist, please e-mail me directly. Thank you. flk. .`-). | ; christopher miller o o' evil@digital.net = ' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Helvard Subject: Re: (klf) in print or what? Date: 06 Aug 1998 11:53:46 +0200 At 17.47 5/08/98 EST5EDT, you wrote: > >I haven't posted too much to THIS list (now the Orb list, on the >other hand...), but I've seen lotsa folks looking for this KLF >release and that. I saw (or thought I saw) the other day someone >looking for the White Room cd.... Isn't this still in print? Or >is it out of print now? How 'bout Chill Out? I believe the Danish version, released on COMA, is out of print but still available. At least here in Denmark. While we're on the subject of TWR, I recently got the WR with the J&A single from cd-now, and I think there is a good and a bad difference from the UK / DK / NL / GE release. The good thing: The Live from the lost continent version of LTTT, my all time favorite On the down side: The start of the LP-mix of WTIL is by far better on the UK. You all prob. know it, right after 'You better not stop them 'cos they're coming through'... Just a little mindless input.. - Thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kristian Bengtsson" Subject: (klf) jammu Date: 06 Aug 1998 12:08:18 +0200 hello. A long time ago, people thougt that klf might stand for Kashmir = Liberation Front. I watched a the news somedays ago and they talked about kashmir and the = regoins near it. One thing that caught my attention was that the region = closest to kashmir is .... JAMMU. huha! :) /kristian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jerry Cornelius" Subject: (klf) Heyulp! Date: 06 Aug 1998 03:31:24 -0700 Dear oh dear...six months is a long time in UN-KsVILLE. I cant find the list archive for the period since Feb 98 or so. Can anybioody help? Jamm Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jerry Cornelius" Subject: (klf) Veterans will remember Date: 06 Aug 1998 02:45:42 -0700 Hi...I'm back! Been off the list since early feb when I had to knock my X$X quest on the head for exam reasons. All that's well behind me now . I only just read in Time Out about the T2K site which features X$X and then I checked out some happenings on JAMM abouit same. DOH! It all occurred just after I unsubscribed so I guess I'll be backtracking wildly through the archives to find out what y;'all already know. Also, since April, I've been working on the oft-promised collation of all the X$X info I'd found out. This is nearly ready...any suggestions on a hosting spot (preferably free)? Meanwhile if somebody could give a quick summary on the X$X developments, namely why are B&J now apparently admitting its them? I'm BAK 2 B BAAD! Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) Veterans will remember Date: 06 Aug 1998 16:00:09 +0100 (BST) > Meanwhile if somebody could give a quick summary on the X$X developments, namely why are B&J now apparently admitting its them? Did I miss something somewhere along the way? Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (klf) Veterans will remember Date: 06 Aug 1998 11:57:21 EDT > I only just read in Time Out about the T2K site which features X$X and then > I checked out some happenings on JAMM abouit same. [...] > Meanwhile if somebody could give a quick summary on the X$X developments, > namely why are B&J now apparently admitting its them? Aw, jaysis. I hope this isn't going to be starting up again. No. No more developments since the guy who claimed to have a tape of it from a magazine but refused to share any portion whatsoever (be it scan or 30 sec sample) to give credit to his story. Oh, then that site which everyone went nuts over as it looked like someone might actually be releasing it oh! but no, more games. Not amused, -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Neil Sampson 01276 693068 Subject: (klf) t2K Date: 06 Aug 1998 16:45:17 +0100 (BST) Hello, I'm yet another listee who's been away from the scene quite long... Just wondered, what's the URL for the T2K website ? l8rs neil # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: Re: (klf) t2K Date: 06 Aug 1998 18:34:15 +0200 At 16:45 1998-08-06 +0100, you wrote: >Just wondered, what's the URL for the T2K website ? www.T2K.net is the place to go... not much there yet tho. cheers! //FRiD Mattias Frid "You can't scare me! I'm a Framtidsv. 4:313 coward, I'm always scared!" S-35252 Vaxjo - Arnold J. Rimmer/Red Dwarf SWEDEN mfrsv95@student.hv.se http://www.frid.home.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik Subject: Re: (klf) Veterans will remember Date: 06 Aug 1998 19:25:18 +0200 (MET DST) At 02:45 06.08.1998 -0700, you wrote: >I only just read in Time Out about the T2K site did that article appear on this list? if so, could anybody please email me that message again? I probably missed it. If not, could anybody please transcribe it and post it here? >Meanwhile if somebody could give a quick summary on the X$X developments, >namely why are B&J now apparently admitting its them? Where did Bill and Jimmy admit this? Or do you think that www.t2k.net is B&J's site? Because B&J's site is only www.k2planthire.ltd.uk :-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik@xdollarx.com | http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~gander/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Quahogs" Subject: Re: (klf) in print or what? Date: 06 Aug 1998 17:28:04 -0500 >> My own note to this: I just got the White Room and the Justified and Ancient >> single packaged together. I wonder: is TVT trying to get rid of their >> stock? The packaging seemed hastily done: the front insert of the J&A >> single is shoved (literally -- it's wrinkled) into the back flap, where the >> songs were listed on the WR cd. > >The WR/J&A set has been the standard issue since it was put together when J&A >was a hit over here. I have not really seen WR in the new cd section in some >time, but that could be mainly due to a lack of serious interest anymore by >the general public. I can always find it used. > >Chill Out is near invisible. I happened upon WR/J&A and CO new at Best Buy here in Cincinnati; I recently saw WR/J&A new in Indianapolis, so I guess my point is that they're still out there. But you guys already knew that :) --Quahogs-- "Just wait until the dead babies start marching... then you will be eating your words!." --King Fausto, from "The Forbidden Zone" Quahogs http://skapunx.ml.org/~k944 k944@skapunx.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Ashkenazi Subject: (klf) KLF items for sale/trade... Date: 07 Aug 1998 00:49:07 +0300 Hi all, I have the following CD's for trade or sale: The White Room/Justified & Ancient (Arista) [slimline case] Justified & Ancient (Blow Up) I can also get the following CD's for trade only: Chill Out (WaxTrax!/TVT; 7155) History Of The JAMS a.k.a. The Timelords (TVT Records; TVT 4040 CD) The Orb: The O.O.B.E Adventure (Feature the track: Borrowed Love - Alex Vs. The KLF) Yeah i know, not too rare items but if anyone still interested in any of this items let me know, thanks! Regards, David 8?) -- __________________________________ David Ashkenazi, Tel-Aviv, Israel. IRC nickname: "Boredman". Phone: 971-3-6875091 adavid@inter.net.il ICQ: 13255725 13255725@pager.mirabilis.com http://www.mirabilis.com/13255725 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kjetil Limkjaer Subject: Re: (klf) in print or what? Date: 07 Aug 1998 02:17:31 +0200 At 11:53 06.08.98 +0200, you wrote: >While we're on the subject of TWR, I recently got the WR with the J&A >single from cd-now, and I think there is a good and a bad difference from >the UK / DK / NL / GE release. The good thing: The Live from the lost >continent version of LTTT, my all time favorite >On the down side: The start of the LP-mix of WTIL is by far better on the >UK. You all prob. know it, right after 'You better not stop them 'cos >they're coming through'... > >Just a little mindless input.. > >- Thomas Then again, there are two more verses on the US LP-mix of WTIL (which I, in the spirit of synchronicity, also recently got from cd-now).. more mindless input, I know -- \-----)---+ bReed! / ADP| See that girl, watch that scene, diggin' the dancing queen /-----(-----/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Robin Zimmerman Subject: (klf) "Who Killed the JaMS?" LP for trade Date: 06 Aug 1998 20:52:46 -0700 (PDT) I've found another "Who killed the Jams?" LP - I was wondering if anyone would trade me a "Kylie Said to Jason" 12" or "Last Train to Trancentral (Remix 1)" 12" for it? Maybe an URT CD? No? Well, I'll listen to any trade offers then. :) Thanks, CRZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicola Battista Subject: (klf) 1987/WKTJ Date: 07 Aug 1998 00:43:47 +0200 Hello, as my sister brought me a 1987/WKTJ CD-R from Scotland a while ago (mastered from vinyl but quality is very good), was wondering if anyone needs a copy of it from my cd burner... let me know :) Curiosuly, it has a cat.number (probably fake) like a regular cd (BPD07005) but sleeve and cd label are printed on a computer printer... bye, Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lindgren" Subject: (klf) ZAKYNTHOS!!! Date: 07 Aug 1998 13:39:29 PDT Hello everybody, I just felt it was my responsibility to tell you people, that while you`re sittin in your rainy & boring (?) homecities, I`LL BE PARTYING AND GETTIN A NICE TAN AT ZAKYNTHOS, GREECE!!! KLFconnection, hmmmm..... Wait a sec. I`ll find one......... Oh yes, when I fly over the alps and other places I`ll be listening to both `CHILL OUT` & `SPACE`.... - david ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Quahogs" Subject: (klf) a cool find Date: 07 Aug 1998 18:18:17 -0500 I was in a used cd shop, and I ran across the WR for $1.00, which I bought. I already have the WR, but I figured I'd give it to a friend. But, when I got home, I looked at the disc a little closer and realized that it's the Danish release [COMA CD 4], which musically is (I think) the same as the original British release. It makes so much more sense than the chopped-up American release. Damn, I wonder what else I'm missing... --Quahogs-- "Just wait until the dead babies start marching... then you will be eating your words!." --King Fausto, from "The Forbidden Zone" Quahogs http://skapunx.ml.org/~k944 k944@skapunx.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cory Subject: (klf) Very Urgent News!!! Date: 08 Aug 1998 00:34:19 +0100 I took a look at http://www.t2k.net/ just now and it seems we've come full circle now because i remember last year there was talk of a Pimloco Film Festival which nobody could find where the M25 Spin film was shown. Well guess what. We later found out it was actually the PORTABELLO Film Festival and it has come around again, on 10th - 12th of...... August!!! Yes so that's Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. As i write this, technically only 2 days away. I don't know if i can make any of it at such short notice but if anyone does happen to be on holiday they could do worse than go to Portabello, London. I'm afraid that's as far as the details stretch on the site. All this free time recently and now suddenly i'm really busy. Typical. Cory. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cory Subject: (klf) One last thing... Date: 08 Aug 1998 00:39:00 +0100 It appears Jerry Cornelius wasn't confused when he said the T2K site featured X$X because the X$X logo does actually appear on the T2K site banner, so i expect some action from them as well. Cory. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: litjen@easynet.co.uk (Graham Scales) Subject: Re: (klf) ZAKYNTHOS!!! Date: 08 Aug 1998 00:29:18 -0600 At 13:39 07/08/98 PDT, David Lindgren wrote: Damn you're on holiday as well. K Cera Cera, I'll be partying on down in New York, Boston and a few places in between!!!!!! ;-) >Hello everybody, > >I just felt it was my responsibility to tell you people, that while >you`re sittin in your rainy & boring (?) homecities, >I`LL BE PARTYING AND GETTIN A NICE TAN AT ZAKYNTHOS, GREECE!!! > > > >KLFconnection, hmmmm..... Wait a sec. I`ll find one......... >Oh yes, when I fly over the alps and other places I`ll be listening to >both `CHILL OUT` & `SPACE`.... > > > > - david # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christian Villum Subject: RE: (klf) a cool find Date: 08 Aug 1998 17:30:45 +0200 Danish KLF website / tribute to COMA Records... This message will probably only interest danish users of this list, as = the website referred to is written in danish. However, all of you are of course welcome to drop by. At least there are = som graphics you can look at ;-) Anyway, the website is a tribute to the danish label 'Quahogs' tells = about, COMA RECORDS, which had the rights to release KLF-stuff in = Scandinavia. This site features the complete JAMMS history, several = articles, graphics, mailinglist etc., plus almost complete = COMA-discography...(all in danish, sorry) In addition, COMA also had the rights to release Shamen-stuff in = Scandinavia, but thats another story... This is the sound of COMA Records: http://listen.to/comarecords All comments are welcome! Kommentarer, forslag, ris og ros m.v modtages gerne...! Christian V subwave@email.dk ----- Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: Quahogs [SMTP:k944@skapunx.ml.org] Sendt: 8. august 1998 01:18 Til: klf@lists.xmission.com Emne: (klf) a cool find I was in a used cd shop, and I ran across the WR for $1.00, which I = bought. I already have the WR, but I figured I'd give it to a friend. But, when I got home, I looked at the disc a little closer and realized = that it's the Danish release [COMA CD 4], which musically is (I think) the = same as the original British release. It makes so much more sense than the chopped-up American release. Damn, = I wonder what else I'm missing... --Quahogs-- "Just wait until the dead babies start marching... then you will be eating your words!." --King Fausto, from "The Forbidden Zone" Quahogs http://skapunx.ml.org/~k944 k944@skapunx.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jerry Cornelius" Subject: (klf) Data request Date: 09 Aug 1998 01:58:43 -0700 Hello. I've been interested in X$X for a long timew and have been building up information and articles from as far back as 1991 for a forthcoming Web site. I'm really out of date (about 6 months actually) with the klf list and have seen bits and pieces of action on the X$X subject. I see that it's a JAMM project but also that it's on the T@K site (supposedly official B&J site according to this week's Time Out) I posted to the list on this but got an enigmatic but unconvincing spolier from xdollarx.com. Does anybody have data? Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jerry Cornelius" Subject: Re: (klf) One last thing... Date: 09 Aug 1998 02:08:35 -0700 Hi cory...thanks for confirming my (vague) compost menticity on X$X. Can I be deadly honest here? I have got loats of info on X$X to share. I know I promised to share it a long time ago (like February but as I said then, I'm not a Web-head so it's taken me time to learn that too. For a while there between Sept 97 and Feb 98 there was, like, X$X action ap[lomb with lots of peoiple contributing stuff concerning the K foundation/Michael K/1991-1995 sightings etc. And there was that extremely annoying claim from somebody that they had the "1997" LP and werent going to share it!!! (DOH!) I'm completely at sea on what X$X is doing on a supposedly official B&J site (T2K) since at last count, X$X werer always denied by K-people. I notice that X$X is some kind of project by JAMM with various unconvincing "press releases from X$X Communications" on their site and an unspecified project. My big query now is... If X$X=JAMM then T2K = NOT 2K I mean...am I right or am I right? Answers on a e-card to....etc Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (klf) One last thing... Date: 09 Aug 1998 07:04:04 EDT > I'm completely at sea on what X$X is doing on a supposedly official B&J site ( > T2K) since at last count, X$X werer always denied by K-people. www.t2k.net has little, if anything, to do with B&J. Gimpo... yes. B&J... no. The only official B&J site is K2 Plant Hire. > I notice that X$X is some kind of project by JAMM with various unconvincing " > press releases from X$X Communications" on their site and an unspecified > project. My two cents: gathering information on X$X is a waste of time. You might as well wait for 1987 to be re-released. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jerry Cornelius" Subject: (klf) X$X AND CHIPS, PLEASE Date: 09 Aug 1998 04:59:40 -0700 Cheers, Paul. Gathering info on X$X is no longer a waste of time...I've GATHERED IT. (Boy was THAT a waste of time;) B-B-BUTT.... DOH! I cant remember what the but was.... Meanwhile, Gimpo's film is called "CONCRETE ENEMA" and is being shown after midnight on Wenesday 12th August at the SUBTERANIA (Acklam Road W10) venue of the Portabello Film Festival. If you live on other planets, dont bother, it's 3 minutes long and if the first couple of night's state of play are anything to go by, the supoosed "X$X" content or "representation" evinced in the T2K site will be minus zero. That's what y'all git when y'start following an ex-fauklands para around just cos he filmed some cash (well a lot of cash-ALLEGEDLY) being burned. Gimpo.....? I'd rather SHAG SHAG SHAG Anyhows... The current "X$X Communications" from Andy in Essex ring as closely to the original stuff in 1992/3 as the K-TIME homepage does to the K2.PLANTHIRE.LTD site. Dig me now. SO-oo-oo Rather than leave X$X in the grip of Andy EX-ESSEX and the "project" at JAMM, I'M GOING TO PUT UP THE ACTUAL PAST X$X DATA SHORTLY. CAN I ASSUME THAT THE GOINGS ON OF THE LIKES OF JAMM AND XDOLLARX.COM ARE NOT WORTH ADDING? DOES ANYONE DISAGREE WITH THE PREMISE THAT CURRENT X$X ONLINE STUFF HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH B&J AND/OR THE PERPETRATORS OF THE WIDELY-PUBLICISED 1991-5 PERIOD X$X STUFF? That's a looooong question but I was hoping that my forthcoming site might close the book on X$X as a definitive reference for those with questions on the whole, prolonged, unresolved saga to date. Once my work is done, I will give my entire KLF archive away to the first homeless person who has a stereo with them and thenceforth never again speak of such things Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jerry Cornelius" Subject: (klf) Try this for size! Date: 09 Aug 1998 05:10:20 -0700 http://www.ucolick.org/~de/webmaster/UCE.html Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Robinson" Subject: (klf) X$X etc. Date: 09 Aug 1998 14:57:43 +0100 I have, somewhere in a loft in Sussex, a few pieces of mail that I received from Michael Kearney in relation to a KLF fanzine I did in 1992. A couple of postcards, some odd envelopes and so on. Rambling, incoherent, shambolic nonsense they may be, but if anyone's interested I'll have a rummage around and upload them. I met Michael K in 1993 or 4. He was very nice but clearly quite mad and gave no proof or evidence that he had even met B&J. Unless the project has since been adopted by Drummond and Cauty I suspect the situation remains fairly tenuous... I might also have a copy of "1997". I think I could have thrown it away owing to the fact that it was shit. If not I'll let you know. Bye for now Peter Robinson ps: Would anybody like to make me an offer on two large (4 foot) polystyrene horns, made by Simon Cauty for use at The KLF's 1992 banger racing jaunt? They're a bit battered, as you might expect, but up for grabs nonetheless. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Wilkinson" Subject: (klf) New Marshall CD's....Is it worth it? Date: 09 Aug 1998 17:31:52 +0100 OK, lets get this straight before anyone makes any orders.... I wasn't around on the list when everyone placed orders to TWROST etc, but now, here I am, and I'm quite interested in having a CD copy of Space to replaced my aged warbled taped copy. So.... Q1) Yes, I know the wait has been horrendous for the last lot, but exactly how long? Q2) Is the audio quality good, i.e. comparable to an original CD? Q3) What is the quality of the covers? Are they cheap nasty photocopies, or professional prints? (i.e. will it have the word bootleg written all over it?) Q4) For those who ordered previousley, was it worth the wait? Q5) Exactly how much were they again? Erm... thats about it really.... Regards, DAN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Quahogs" Subject: (klf) The Black Room Date: 09 Aug 1998 15:20:40 -0500 OK, here's the deal: 1) Everything I have found on the web indicates that the Black Room was recorded but not released, right? Even in bootleg form. 2) I have a friend who, when I mentioned it, said he has it. Apparently he (a German) had a friend in London who got it for him, where it was apparently released in a limited quantity of 10,000 or so. So: does there exist a hoax, or a bootleg, or what? He seems to be very familiar with it, and when I mentioned the song "38" (lyrics for which are in the FAQ) he seemed to know what I was talking about. Just to preempt questions: yes, he said he'll get me a copy (burned on cd, even), but it will be probably mid/late September/October before I see it. I just can't imagine that it could be released even in limited quantity and no one on the internet would know about it. Any questions/comments? (Hopefully...) --Quahogs-- "Just wait until the dead babies start marching... then you will be eating your words!." --King Fausto, from "The Forbidden Zone" Quahogs http://skapunx.ml.org/~k944 k944@skapunx.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jerry Cornelius" Subject: Re: (klf) X$X etc. Date: 09 Aug 1998 13:44:22 -0700 Wow! Peter Robinson.. If it be thee, then I am very glad to greet you. As I've been rambling, there was a lot of action on the X$X front in late 97/early 98 during which all manner of CD-Rom/NMME/Melody Maker/1997/NMemeton/Shamen comms "back-catalogue" was unearthed and I asked for lots of it to get to me so as I could collate. We had a Grant Peden get involved, apparently the guy who photographed you and Michael K in 93 for that "Merry Pranksters thing. He said he was pretty sure that you and K were playing the Maker's jouirnalist and that the tape of the interview would make interesting listening. He also said that he knew some others who had had music industry contact with K and that he was more "Chris Morris mad" than "insane" and was definitely a dedicated wind-up with a driving aim of some sort. Scott Piering, in the article you wrote on the meeting also said that K had a "complex" far-reaching scheme. B;ah B;ah. If you are that Peter Robinson, then 3 things... 1. REEEESPECT 2. I'll take that "1997" please!! 3. Have you got a tape of the interview wiith K? Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jerry Cornelius" Subject: Re: (klf) The Black Room Date: 09 Aug 1998 13:58:09 -0700 The Black Room was DEFINITELY released in at least TWO forms...as a cd-rom with graphics etc and as an audio CD with 71 minutes of silence preceded by the words "Dont Buy The Black Room". I have seen the first item and heard the second. I will have scans of the sleeves, labels etc for my forthcoming website. Interesting stuff since I also have a review of the CD-rom in an Amiga comp mag from 1992 which refers to one element on the sleeve...the correspondence address PO BOX91, HP22 4RS. This is well over a year before its use in connection with all things K Foundation. This, if you ask me has always been the crux of the X$X thing. Although not credited TO X$X as such, "The Black Room " CD-Rom DOES contain various elements of audio consistent with the fabled JAMS/ENT "Black Room" sessions. It also contains graphics featuring the X$X "logo/name/sig" AND these graphics DO look like the K Foundation's stylee thing. All of the above is not speculation. I can show it to be REAL DATA from 1992 approx 15-18 months BEFORE that initial K CERA CERA ad in NME which launched the K foundation. There's much much more on this in mags like Future Music (approx 17 items during 1993-5) and CD-Rom mag, CD-Rom Interactive and others. Bear with me. I will put this up within the next4-6 weeks. Meanwhile...can anybody confirm or rubbish the declatration in this week's TIME OUT that t2k is B&J's official new site. This is vital since it currently bears the X$X logo!!! The actual article in Time Out says that they have postponed the Pyramid project and that "interested parties are invited to www.t2k.net for updates".. COMMENTS URGENTLY REQUESTED! Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alex Janzer Subject: (klf) X$X vs JAMM Date: 09 Mar 1998 23:27:09 +0100 Hi Jerry, X$X is /not/ a JAMM project. Yes, we`ve got a X$X press release and the announcement of a X$X project called "W.T.B.G.B.S.F.S.M.Q." on the JAMM website but you should know that all this information was sent anonymously to us. So there`s no guarantee that this X$X has anything to do with the X$X from the K Foundation era... Regards, AJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alex Janzer Subject: (klf) X$X vs JAMM Date: 09 Aug 1998 23:30:08 +0200 Hi Jerry, X$X is /not/ a JAMM project. Yes, we`ve got a X$X press release and the announcement of a X$X project called "W.T.B.G.B.S.F.S.M.Q." on the JAMM website but you should know that all this information was sent anonymously to us. So there`s no guarantee that this X$X has anything to do with the X$X from the K Foundation era... Regards, AJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jerry Cornelius" Subject: Re: (klf) X$X vs JAMM Date: 09 Aug 1998 14:45:48 -0700 Thanks Alex...and please, JAMMers...if my emails earlier looked a little ambiguous, I am very much INTO what JAMM is doing. Cant wait to see more happenings! If Andy (and Sarah) in Essex is watching, xdollarx.com is probably going to be great too, but I knew that X$X Communications was a careless attempt at a scam. I'm pretty sure that whatever X$X is, it certainly aint a business with an ACCOUNTS DEPARTMENTand a MANAGING DIRECTOR !! Perhaps I'm wrong and if so, I'll buy you a PINT of X$X Draught Cider (and make it a LARGE one)! Plus......gotta see the bottom of the existing X$X barrel (still not sorted for me at least) before any new apples are rolled in. Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (klf) New Marshall CD's....Is it worth it? Date: 09 Aug 1998 18:01:57 EDT > Q1) Yes, I know the wait has been horrendous for the last lot, but exactly > how long? January 1997. Little over a year for the first cd, still waiting on the second. To be fair, however, he does eventually deliver the cds so even if there is a delay you can be certain that the discs WILL arrive. Unlike... And when the cds are actually available now (rather than preordered like the last batch) turnaround is pretty swift. You can wait until Space actually gets released before ordering. > Q2) Is the audio quality good, i.e. comparable to an original CD? Excellent. Vinyl sources are obviously a wee bit crackle-y, but when only six copies were pressed of it, for instance, it's understandable. > Q3) What is the quality of the covers? Are they cheap nasty photocopies, or > professional prints? (i.e. will it have the word bootleg written all over > it?) Excellecent. Quality printing job. > Q4) For those who ordered previousley, was it worth the wait? Yes, but more frequent updates would have been appreciated. > Q5) Exactly how much were they again? $20 or something. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: litjen@easynet.co.uk (Graham Scales) Subject: Re: (klf) New Marshall CD's....Is it worth it? Date: 09 Aug 1998 16:06:22 -0600 >Q1) Yes, I know the wait has been horrendous for the last lot, but exactly >how long? Best you don't know!!!!!!! >Q2) Is the audio quality good, i.e. comparable to an original CD? Well it's a bootleg aanyway so that is a hard comparison to make. >Q3) What is the quality of the covers? Are they cheap nasty photocopies, or >professional prints? (i.e. will it have the word bootleg written all over >it?) It will probably be printed. >Q4) For those who ordered previousley, was it worth the wait? Knowing the content, yes it will be worth it. >Q5) Exactly how much were they again? Fuck know 'cos it was so long ago since I ordered it!!!!!!!!!! ;-) 'laters Graham # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Hamilton" Subject: (klf) All this bloody XSX malarky again Date: 09 Aug 1998 16:00:15 PDT I agree...thankfully I wasnt on the list when the 1997 LP was proffered and then withdrawn but I've heard about it from friends who will no longer look at this list as a result! But the item in Time Out to which Jerry refers also caught my eye. It points us at http://www.t2k.net where there is indeed an X$X banner. The actual text of the Time Out thing is as follows: Music Preview section (pg 113 of august 5-12th issue "Finally, K2 Planthire Ltd, the latest reincarnation of Bill Drummond and Jimmy Cauty-whose primary objective is to construct a pyramid for the millenium containing one brick to represent every human born in twentieth century Britain, recently postponed the launch proper of their enigmatic new project. Interested parties should take a peek at www.t2k.net for further info." Since Time Out have taken advertising from K2 Planthire Ltd, 2K and K Foundation in the past, I assume this hasnt been scammed in by an autonomous lot... (but maybe?) The actual site points us to the Portabello Film Festival with the message "See You There!" AAAAAARGH! I hat this kind of shit (because it keeps me awake at night). What ever happened to the old "announce a record in the NME on Thursday, buy it on Monday" concepts? I remember when a Mars Bar came free with a semi-detached house etc. Sad old Colin and his simple longings ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Hamilton" Subject: (klf) Questions Date: 09 Aug 1998 16:30:43 PDT Hi Peter... Have your "Justifeied and Ancient History" and it is not bollocks as Gimpo asserted. It's actually brill! Some questions on "1997"/Michael K/X$X since you're around these parts now... A. What IS this "1997" LP like...("shit", fair enopugh, you say, but there are those of us who may differ if we heard it.) B. Have YOU ever met B&J...if so, when was the last time and have you ever asked them about X$X, Michael K, etc? (I assume not since you seem to be a little uncertain about decrying the whole thing) C. How did you come to write the "Merry Pranksters" article from Melody Maker (in the Mancentral archives). How did the interview with Michael K come about? D. What was Scott Piering on about when he was quoted by you as saying something to the eeffect of "Michael K has a complex scheme but seems to be about media manipulation rather than music" (not your exact text) I ask because at the time, the K Foundation were very much on THAT tip!! E. Have you ever heard from or of Michael K since in respect of your KLF contacts? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jharek Carnelian" Subject: (klf) 1998-What the Fuck is going on? Date: 09 Aug 1998 16:34:15 -0700 I'm back on the list too for pretty much the same reason...this Time Out/T2K/X$X development. Is anybody going to the Portabello Festival then? We need a conference FAST! Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jharek Carnelian" Subject: (klf) The 1997 LP Date: 09 Aug 1998 16:37:53 -0700 Peter....please please find that 1997 LP. Dont matter if it's shit. I've got to have a copy!!! Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: (klf) Kalevala Heritage Date: 08 Aug 1998 09:43:19 +0100 (BST) Been having a few problems sending mail to the KLF list recently, so I'm not sure whether this will get through. A friend of mine did a search on CD Now and found an album called "Kalevala Heritage- Archive Records of Ancient". It's a Finnish recording, and it's $15. Any connection with the KLF?... Anyone? Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk http://www.atomiser.demon.co.uk The Crisp Packet Triangle Shrine Zone # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Ashkenazi Subject: (klf) JAMS: The Viagra Conspiracy Begins ? Date: 09 Aug 1998 12:18:06 +0300 Hi, If anyone still care on this subject. It's been over 23 days since i got that guy e-mail so i sent him another one last week and got this back today: ---David Ashkenazi wrote: > > Well, it's TIME! you're right. But for some zenarchistic reason, server went down after 23 hours from your mail. File will be up again in mp3 too. And copies of the promo cd should be confusing the british press right now. We're back for good. Or maybe not. == _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com I guess he just dont know when to stop or something, i'll be letting you know if there will be any mp3 of the track etc... Later, David 8?) -- __________________________________ David Ashkenazi, Tel-Aviv, Israel. IRC nickname: "Boredman". Phone: 971-3-6875091 adavid@inter.net.il ICQ: 13255725 13255725@pager.mirabilis.com http://www.mirabilis.com/13255725 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Hamilton" Subject: Re: (klf) The Black Room Date: 09 Aug 1998 14:35:19 PDT Surely we dont have to go through this again. The Black Room WAS surreptitously released by Drummond and Cauty but not as advertised. Isnt that known, publicised, documented to death. I read all the Future Music articles and it was praised widely as the first CD-Rom release (1992!!) to successfully tie up music and graphics. Piss off Peter Gabriel, David Bowie, The Residents It was also the first CD-Rom (1992!!) to feature linked Web and Cd-rom content. (Ah, Bill Gates, the "innovator" again). This still occasionally comes up in comp mags although most of them seem to have conveniently forgotten now that Bill's gravy is rolling Blah Blah. Unfortunately, despite the above, I've never actually seen the bloody thing. My personal theory on Michael K is that he's the disgruntled programmer of The Black Room lloking for the credit he deserves or summat. Then again...it's not as if he got his tits out on Page 3 of The Sun to complain about it. So...if Peter Robinson says that Michael K's mad, Gimpo says that Peter Robinson is bollocks and as Jerry Cornelius observes Gimpo went to the Falklands without complaint, then how come the trains never run on time around here? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (klf) All this bloody XSX malarky again Date: 09 Aug 1998 22:52:45 EDT > But the item in Time Out to which Jerry refers also caught my eye. > It points us at http://www.t2k.net > where there is indeed an X$X banner. T2K was formerly the Millennium Crisis site which was put together by Gimpo and M/A/D. It was of interest to K fans primarily for Gimpos involvement and, for me, only because of the information on the Burning the Million Quid film and book info, and the 25 Hour Spin. Other than that I found the site rather complicated looking and uninteresting. When the X$X site popped up (hmm, coincidently right at the same time someone claimed to have a copy of 1997 but refused to share even a cover scan) I stated I thought the site was put together by M/A/D, but he claimed he had nothing to do with it. Now the Millennium Crisis site has become T2K and, surprise, X$X has popped up on that page as well. While I would be the first to say I was wrong should this actually surface and clearly be B&J, I'm doubting it highly. It would have to be pretty convincing evidence to prove otherwise. And I can't imagine Pete Rob tossing out a rare K item even if it were crap. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (klf) Black Room and the confusion surrounding Date: 09 Aug 1998 23:53:43 EDT OK, so from what I understand, there's the Actual Black Room recording on cd, complete with with computer stuff on it, then there's a cd with 71 minutes of nothing and "don't buy the black room", and this bootleg that's just recently surfaced on the list.....does anyone have any confirmed experience listening to these, or does anyone actually own them and want to burn or mp3 them? Sorry if these questions have been answered, but i haven't been able to get all my mail recently, if these questions have been answered, could someone message me personally? Thanx..... Jarrod # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Cowen Subject: (klf) Bollocks! All of it! Date: 09 Aug 1998 12:10:28 -0500 What in the holy fuck -is- going on? Remember the old days, when Bill & Jimmy would announce, via some sort of bizarre Guardian or NME ad, some bizarre or unbelievable scheme which we'd all shake our heads at until a few months later, when the "proof" that it actually happened hit our hands? Like K Cera Cera (many of us have CDs), the Turner Prize and the Million Quid Burning (the Beeb Omnibus documentary), the One World Orchestra Track (the Help comp), the trek to the North Pole (Bad Wisdom), or the whole bizarre F*** the Millenium thing (the CD single and performance)? Or back in the old days, when they were actually... >gasp<...a band releasing... >gasp< new music? What do we have now? A bunch of people bickering about the ultra-lame circus sideshow being conducted by people somehow related to Bill & Jimmy, farther and farther down the line, all being handled amazingly poorly. I mean, what is this X$X nonsense? The Black Room Interactive CD-ROM? A 1997 album? I mean, who the fuck cares? Bill & Jimmy were masters of one thing: getting the mass media (and audience) to pay attention to their bizarre schemes, duping the world when they won (The Timelords, ambient house, the success of 3am Eternal) and falling into oddly triumphant self-pity when they lost (WKTJ?, The Original White Room movie and soundtrack, the Million Quid Burning). Where is that now? I hope that this is some sort of bizarre deception on B&J's part, luring us netters in with all of these half-baked projects or lies developed by so-called associates, while they do something unbelievable while we're so distracted with trainspotting irrelevant, stupid projects. Fuck Gimpo, "M/A/D", X$X or "Michael K"! We want the JAMS! Dave Cowen (esch@execpc.com) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Quahogs" Subject: Re: (klf) The Black Room Date: 10 Aug 1998 02:21:36 -0500 >Surely we dont have to go through this again. >The Black Room WAS surreptitously released by Drummond and Cauty but not >as advertised. > >Isnt that known, publicised, documented to death. > >I read all the Future Music articles and it was praised widely as the >first CD-Rom release (1992!!) Ok... my friend says he has it on vinyl -- has there been any word of this? Sorry if I'm asking the same old questions... maybe someone needs to update the FAQ... --Quahogs-- "Just wait until the dead babies start marching... then you will be eating your words!." --King Fausto, from "The Forbidden Zone" Quahogs http://skapunx.ml.org/~k944 k944@skapunx.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik Subject: Re: (klf) New Marshall CD's....Is it worth it? Date: 10 Aug 1998 12:20:05 +0200 (MET DST) At 17:31 09.08.1998 +0100, you wrote: >Q1) Yes, I know the wait has been horrendous for the last lot, but exactly >how long? LSOM2 and TWR OST where to be released mid-march 97, but the masters took until summer 97 and the factory took until early 98 to have the CDs pressed. The further delay on TWR OST was due to the confiscation of the whole batch by customs authorities. The waiting thing won't happen again btw, Marshall will only offer discs that are already pressed and ready to be sent off in the future. >Q2) Is the audio quality good, i.e. comparable to an original CD? excellent quality >Q3) What is the quality of the covers? Are they cheap nasty photocopies, or >professional prints? (i.e. will it have the word bootleg written all over >it?) professional prints >Q4) For those who ordered previousley, was it worth the wait? yup >Q5) Exactly how much were they again? US$15.-, Europe postage $5.- Don't forget about the cool T-shirts :) :-) erik ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik@xdollarx.com | http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~gander/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Robinson" Subject: (klf) Hm... Date: 10 Aug 1998 08:39:59 +0100 > And I can't imagine Pete Rob tossing out a rare K item even if it were crap. What struck me about all the X$X material I saw - the 1997 tape, the supposed CD Rom - was that they looked as if they had been knocked out in somebody's bedroom. If Drummond and Cauty were attempting to revive any sort of underground chic then I think they're intelligent enough to have done so without playing on the KLF aesthetic, as 1997 did. The CD Rom, when I saw it, was another artist's CD (can't remember whose) with stickers over the top side and deep scratches over the data side. It wouldn't have played. As for the Time Out article, regular readers of the mag might recognise me as a contributor to the music section. I'm surprised that nobody has observed this link, especially since I did that feature on 2K last year. Anyway, the news story about t2k.net is sort of my fault. It was a mistake. Error. Not everything is part of a conspiracy. Cheerio Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Niko Tzoukmanis Subject: (klf) just wanna dance Date: 10 Aug 1998 15:41:53 +0200 hi ! well for those who don't know, 'just wanna dance' is a track from todd terry project. i'd like to sell the following 12" singles : KLF 010T 'Kylie said to Jason' (original / pure trance) KLF 010R 'Kylie said to Jason' (trance kylie express / kylie in a trance / kylie said harder) (latter is NOT the double 12") if you're interested, please email me privately with offers. best regards niko -- Niko Tzoukmanis URL: http://wwwhoppe.math.uni-augsburg.de/~tzoukman "Life's too short for boring music" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M/A/D Subject: (klf) T2k.Net Date: 10 Aug 1998 16:10:17 +0100 Gimpo says "Bollocks" M/A/D says "Hmmmm..." Mr.Green says "The New Agenda did it" Time Out says "Official" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Robinson" Subject: Re: (klf) T2k.Net Date: 10 Aug 1998 17:20:23 +0100 > Time Out says "Official" Time Out, as those who saw the piece know, said nothing of the sort. In fact we were totally accurate: B&J *have* with-held details of the pyramid project, while interested parties *should* have a look at t2k.net, where info will presumably be available. Oh yes. Peter xx # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jerry Cornelius" Subject: (klf) X$X!!-OFFICIAL!!-NOT!!-MAYBE!!-NOT!! Date: 10 Aug 1998 13:34:13 -0700 Erm...do ray me so fa so...DOH! Now...the thing is, Peter...(and I believe it is he)... From what I've heard from the unconfirmed reports of "1997" LP (ie. I've never seen or even smelled the MF object) and the context in which it was presented (ie. issued only to journos), the "bedroom approach" you seem to refer to is consistent with what was going on K-wise at the time. They were no longer using the Music Industry manufacturers...the tanks, the glossy printers..the money..even the handouts were all being done "in-house" by the likes of Gimpo. Plus on the info I have about it, there was minimal packaging and only the 1997 hints at ANY connection with the B&J. This has caused a few people to ask why we consider this artefact to be claiming KLF connection at all... Perhaps it's us... But that's moot. A few people have also highlighted the fact that X$X seemed to be going for the ART FORGERY concept. Forging abandoned art? I'm not the best one to expand on that but I'm trying to get a few others back on this list. What about the Michael Jackson saples, Peter...that much I know about from Grant Peden... The phonecalls... An argumant between X$X operatives and Bill Drummond.... can you expand on the 1997 content for the underpriveleged viewers here who think the concept sounds tasty? The 1997 "theme" seems to be "here's the ad-hoc, untidy cut-up follow-up to "1987" for the only people who really appreciated it in the first place Journalists. DOH! Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jerry Cornelius" Subject: (klf) X$X!!-OFFICIAL!!-NOT!!-MAYBE!!-NOT!! Date: 10 Aug 1998 13:34:58 -0700 Erm...do ray me so fa so...DOH! Now...the thing is, Peter...(and I believe it is he)... From what I've heard from the unconfirmed reports of "1997" LP (ie. I've never seen or even smelled the MF object) and the context in which it was presented (ie. issued only to journos), the "bedroom approach" you seem to refer to is consistent with what was going on K-wise at the time. They were no longer using the Music Industry manufacturers...the tanks, the glossy printers..the money..even the handouts were all being done "in-house" by the likes of Gimpo. Plus on the info I have about it, there was minimal packaging and only the 1997 hints at ANY connection with the B&J. This has caused a few people to ask why we consider this artefact to be claiming KLF connection at all... Perhaps it's us... But that's moot. A few people have also highlighted the fact that X$X seemed to be going for the ART FORGERY concept. Forging abandoned art? I'm not the best one to expand on that but I'm trying to get a few others back on this list. What about the Michael Jackson saples, Peter...that much I know about from Grant Peden... The phonecalls... An argumant between X$X operatives and Bill Drummond.... can you expand on the 1997 content for the underpriveleged viewers here who think the concept sounds tasty? The 1997 "theme" seems to be "here's the ad-hoc, untidy cut-up follow-up to "1987" for the only people who really appreciated it in the first place Journalists. DOH! Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jharek Carnelian" Subject: (klf) Re: The 1997 LP Date: 10 Aug 1998 13:47:52 -0700 No disrespect whatsoever, Pete but I'd read that you were the absolute KLF completist with piles more stuff than anybody because of a clsoe contact with them. I am surprised that you would toss it out so easily, even if it were shit. I mean you've still got your Kylie said to Jason and Disco 2000 havent you? How did you get the tape? Did Michael K give it to you? Is there any proof he was involved with it? Wasnt he supposed to just be its "publicist" or something? -- On Mon, 10 Aug 1998 18:30:28 Peter Robinson wrote: >> I've got to have a copy!!! > >I'll inform the list if I find it. > Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: (klf) X$X Date: 10 Aug 1998 21:53:31 +0100 X$X It's all in the Mind.............. Other Data: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Hamilton" Subject: (klf) K-apers at Portabello Film Festival!! Date: 10 Aug 1998 14:20:05 PDT Jharek...I'll definitely be going down as I live just off Ladbroke Grove. If anybody else is going tomorrow (tue 11), wed or thurs, let me know...especsh any of those Jamms as you can all come back to my place and I can then say that the JAMMS had a prty at my gaff:) WARNING!! I have already seen a poster. More details as soon as I get a lend of my girlfriend's natty digital camera. EMAIL ME PRONTO if you're heading Portabello-wards. By the way...everything at the festival is FREE so even if costs you a bit to get into London, it should be a bargain (3 days of weird & wonderful films, a Don Letts DUB-PARTY to close the whole thing and much more besides. Outrageoou that Time Out didnt even do a proper feature on it this year (well a listing section fair enough) and unfortunately there's nno online site for it. But it's got tons of goodies if you like weird video-projectionists, after-parties and of course the hundreds of films and shorts. hey...do I sound like I get commision or waht? As for the X$X content...it's unknown but the poster (enigmatically K of course) looked promising in all of it's apparent deliberatly-faded greyness ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stuart Young" Subject: Re: (klf) Re: The 1997 LP Date: 10 Aug 1998 22:36:48 +0000 "Jharek Carnelian" didn't believe that Pete Robinson threw out his copy of 1997: > I am surprised that you would toss it out so easily, even if it were shit. > > I mean you've still got your Kylie said to Jason and Disco 2000 havent you? Well actually when I was writing to him in 94/5 he was trying to sell off a lot of his kollection so maybe he hasn't. Maybe he knows that 1997 is only Michael K and nothing to do with KLF, so therefore not worth keeping. Stuey .. . . . . Stuart Andrew Young will emigrate to New Zealand on September the twelth 1998 home page and CV http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ .. . . . . stuey@easynet.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Hamilton" Subject: (klf) PO BOX 91 SHOCKA!! Date: 10 Aug 1998 16:07:49 PDT WAIT FOR IT! I'm a little breathless on this so xcuse my xlr8ation but here's what just happened down the pub. 1. I mentioned in my post earlier today that there had been a poster attack in the Ladbroke Grove area. I phoned my girlfriend to meet up at the Earl Percy on Ladbroke Grove and asked her to bring her new digital camera so's I could grab and upload to y'all. The bad news is she left it at work... 2. I'd also phoned a couple of mates, one of whom turned out to have seen the posters and actually ripped one down for his wall. This guty who I've known for three years then spontaneously goes off into the story of when he worked at the sorting office which handled the K Foundation PO BOX mail. I'm sitting listening to may mate asking him if he ever met the KLF then and he suddnely says "No...all their mail was picked up by a guy called Michael." ARE YOU WITH ME? 3. Suffice to say, I was a little incredulous but entirely convinced. Pete's not exactly a KLF fan but he is an avid Maker/NME reader so he was weell up on the K Foundation antics but not on the X$X thing which I briefly summed up for him. Unfortunately, we didnt have time to go much further other than for me to tell him about the list and how to subscribe (I'll have to tell him again, though as he's off to Scotland in the morning ) Anyway...this synchronicity is like slightly awesome and obviously I need to talk morer to Pete about it at the first opportunity. Meanwhile, I will get the photos done of the posters and see you there hopefully. I suppose I should describe them but I'd rather just stick up some pics. I'm thinking of going into each of the dark cinema spaces and shouting " is there an X$X in the house?" Hope some of you can make it. I'll be checking email all day tomorrow so let me know if you're heading this way! Peace! IMPORTANT PS: Somebody just asked me if I was the one who posted the info about the xoom XSX site in Feb. I'M NOT!! My email is xdollarx_@hotmail.com NOT xdollarx@hotmail.com (the post-er). The truth is I chose this address after unsuccessfully trying to hack into the latter's account with all manner of variation on password!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jharek Carnelian" Subject: (klf) THIS JUST IN! MICHAEL K AND METALHEADZ Date: 10 Aug 1998 16:11:25 -0700 THIS JUST IN!!! (unconfirmed but relaible report) The much-famed Michael K is now a drum and bass DJ who plays at Metalheadz, Blue Note and other places in London. He is listed in two places in the current Time Out. My friends KNOW the fucker! It IS him, apparently...the same dude who was KLF/X$X publicist. I will find out more... I AM going to the Portabello but I'm going to be pursuing this lead as I think he'll be in the hood as a projectionist or DJ with a crew from The Blue Note. Laytah! For more, check out club listings in Time Out. I will give u more when I get a chance Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jerry Cornelius" Subject: Re: (klf) K-apers at Portabello Film Festival!! Date: 10 Aug 1998 16:17:18 -0700 Colin....I'll be going! I'll be drinking in the pub which is on the corner of Ladbroke Grove and Telford Road but whose name just now escapes me (DOH!). I'l be there from around 3 and open to bright ideas for a meet. so LETTUCE NO if you wanna chin-wag all this bullshit. PETER ROBINSON! COME! PAUL (THE MGNT) COME! ANDY ROBINSON! COME! GIMPO! COME! MAD! COME! AJ! COME! COLIN HAMILTON! COME! JHAREK! COME! EVERYBODY! COME! If ther aint no X$X data, then we'll just get pissed. By the way...VERY IMPORTANT, COLIN. Please give exact location on that poster!!!!! A London A-Z reference would be kool. PPS-To everyone....Subterania is on Acklam Road, W10 Nearest tubes are either Ladbroke Grove or Westbourne Park Action is Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday 7pm-2am....loads of films, obviously ( around 60 per night on 3 screens and ALL FREE!!!!!) On tuesday night at 10pm there will be readings from the contributors to the Sarah Champion book "DISCO 2000" one of whom was obviously BILL DRUMMOND. It's highly likely that he will be there but reading-status not confirmed in programme. There will be a VJ showing projections. He's from the Blue Note club in Islington (home of metalheadz). On wednesday there's a Gimnpo showing after midnight in a special slot called "Kerb Krawlers" which focuses on films which stride the divide between art @ porn. Gimpo's is called "Concrete Enema" and is listed as 3mins long. Some M25 stuff by him WAS shown last night at the free-for-all VIDEO CAFE but I missed it (probably just as well). Blah Blah...wish I had a scanner as there's a lot of small print here. The list of films is NOT exhaustive and certainly when I went the other night there were a lot of changes in the schedual afoot so I think the K factor could be hidden like a needle in the haystack of stuff that's being shown. My tip: GET TO SARAH CHAMPION TOMORROW NIGHT AT 10PM and TAKE IT FROM THERE!! If you're in the bar, make sure you're inconspicuously whistling or humming a KLF tune...that's the easiest way to meet up. Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: T.Pattberg@t-online.de (Torsten Pattberg) Subject: (klf) The Manual - German Issue Date: 11 Aug 1998 11:27:44 +0200 I heard that a german issue of "The Manual" will be released in september (Buchmesse Leipzig). Does anyone have further information? -- Torsten Pattberg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jharek Carnelian" Subject: (klf) Michael K DJ- Correction Date: 11 Aug 1998 04:27:52 -0700 Hi all...my previous post about Michael K-the drum and bass DJ was inaccurate. Apparently he's more of a hip hop dude. He played last Friday's monthly "Metalheadz-The Grand Jam" at Hanover Grand in London but is also a regular of Rotation at Subterania (where the Portabello festival is happening tonight, wednesday and Thursday). Rotation also run a seperate club at the Blue Note, Islington called Camouflage on Saturdays which some of my mates go to pretty often. They describe one of the DJ's who regualrly wears a KLF or K Foundation t-shirt and perhaps an X$X one, although this is less certain. The word is he's good and coming up fast. He's heavily respected by the Metalheadz crew including J Majik, Peshay, Fabio, Goldie et al who regualrly invite him into their action although he's not actually on the drum n bass tip himself ( I was starting to think of the One World Orchestra!!). As I said, it's very likely he's going to be doing something at the Poratbello festival and probably tonight as there are a lot of Rotation and Blue Note people involved. I'm headin down quite late tonight, I think, nbut I will be whistling LTTT while I'm pissing if anybody wants to say hello ;) Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Robinson" Subject: (klf) Re: The 1997 LP Date: 11 Aug 1998 12:17:32 +0100 > No disrespect whatsoever, Pete but I'd read that you were the absolute KLF completist with piles Who on earth told you that? > more stuff than anybody because of a clsoe contact with them. Oh, right. > I am surprised that you would toss it out so easily Have you been talking to my ex boyfriend? > I mean you've still got your Kylie said to Jason and Disco 2000 havent you? Oh, right. "Kylie" yes, because it's great. Various D2000 items yes too, because they're on KLF Communications, they're written performed and produced by Drummond and Cauty, they're in picture sleeves, or they're signed. The tape I had/have was none of the above. I won't pretend that it was good because it has been rumoured to involve Jimmy and Bill, though others probably will. If it's so exciting simply because somebody has been appropriating the KLF's aesthetic then we may as well be spending our time discussing the Outhere Brothers. Or Portishead, who use the KLF font. Hey, you don't think Portishead *are* The KLF, do you? And, like, some of Michael K's mail came from Bristol. > How did you get the tape? Post. > Did Michael K give it to you? Yes. > Is there any proof he was involved with it? Yes. > Wasnt he supposed to just be its "publicist" or something? That constitutes involvement in my book. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jharek Carnelian" Subject: (klf) Pur-lease, Mr. Robinson Date: 11 Aug 1998 06:31:08 -0700 Peter.... I take what you're saying about list-people clutching at straws and totally agree...the list is like a big fishing net (move over Cantona, I'm taking this one) and all sorts of small fry come in and eventually get processed for relevance and hopefully probable reality. That makes for a lot of interim red herrings and tenuous theories based upon minutiae such as font styles and the like. However, such minutiae have been proved to be clue-some in the case of The Rites of Mu CD for example. The absence of the official Compacta font being a "bootleg" double bluff in that particular instance since B&J definitely authorised this release. It's not easy with The B&J because: 1. By their very nature, the KLF/Jams/KF employed lies, confusion and deception to drum up interest and cover their tracks. They observed small facets of their audiences' perception and fucked with them so NOBODY could OWN them, define them, pigeonhole them or fuck THEM. 2. Contrary to what you've said they didnt really produce and perform much at all on their KLF records (Jams...yes). The KLF were a big collective...and though I cant hear much of Rockman Rock's Atari, I can hear Coler's keys and Bello, Harvey and Da Force on vox to mention just 4 of the gang. That's as relevant as the fact that Goldie doesnt do much on HIS records but it IS the case. 3. They DID say "DIVIDE & KREATE" and that's the era we're now in. Nobody knows who's doing what and all theories of "well it's not as professional as B&J would be" is 670% PURE-ARSE since FTM and Rites of Mu CD were DESIGNED to look second-hand, bootlegged, fake. Which neatly crossfades back to X$X, whose gratuitously-untidy but conceopptually finessed "appearance" marked the beginning of the KF "information-era". The KF became informationalists, data-tinkers...making records became uninteresting and they moved on to PURE DATA. The X$X data seems to have close proximity to that new phase's timing and spirit. AND... I'm not WHOLLY convinced that you werent co-hosting it back in the secondary phase (late 1993). How many times has a humble teenage fanzine-writer got to write for IPC Publications and what would make a humble fanzine writer a "reliable" source for Push to check out the "unreliable" Michael K in the Melody Maker? Maybe I just dont get it, but the X$X things seemed to very neatly occupy slots in the News columns and feature pages on alternate weeks with K Foundation stories. A variation of the old Paul Morley trick where you have two stories out of none by using statement and denial? Wasnt X$X just a way of keeping the KF pot on the boil without over-saturation? Isnt that what it STILL is NOW? (calm down! calm down!-ED) Or.... Maybe Michael K and Push conspired to check YOU out. Maybe Michael K set you up for a Gimpo "bolloxing". Werent you just a little over-zealous and cheesy with the closing remark of the Merry Pranksters article (lazlo's archives)? Or.... Perhaps Michael K was/is another one (possibly a major one) of the KLF "gang" of collabs and that didnt sit too well with your or Scott Piering's personal KLF cosmology. Wasnt Scott (and many others in the KLF gang) upset when the KLF no longer returned his calls (post-deletion and down Mexico way-era)? Then again.... I used to be a conspiracy theorist until they got to me. :) If anybody else requires further conspiracies, please contact my butt on: 0981 CRAPFEST. Calls charged at whatever we can get. -- On Mon, 10 Aug 1998 18:30:28 Peter Robinson wrote: >> I've got to have a copy!!! > >I'll inform the list if I find it. > Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Hamilton" Subject: (klf) Re:Half-baked projects Date: 11 Aug 1998 06:32:38 PDT Dave... I agree with a lot of your sentiment. But I think it was definitely B&J's intention to get SOME PROJECTS GOING.. The various JAMM things seem to me to be a direct response to his qupote at the time of FTM that it should be regarded as "THE STARTER's WHISTLE" OK...so maybe people are not considering their scams werll enuf but Drummond WAS 35 and with years of music industry, management and scam experience behind him when he formed the JAMS. The one thing I think is unfortunate is the X$X thing which to me was of a high standard back in 93/94 in conjunction with the KF things. I personally believe that Michael K was only a cover story for the fact that it was a B&J. He's obviosly some kind of long-term collaborator probably long gone onto his own trips. Perhaps the new T2K is a return. More likely it's the JAMMS (not the JAMs) (I know I've changed my story since my last theiory on Michael K :P) Sadly it'salso clear that Michael K has not been in the hood on the 1998 X$X sightings. JAMMers....your flavours are not blended. I can tell the difference. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) PO BOX 91 SHOCKA!! Date: 11 Aug 1998 01:04:36 +0100 (BST) Right, let's all get involved. In on Tue 11 Aug, Colin Hamilton wrote: > > WAIT FOR IT! > > I'm a little breathless on this so xcuse my xlr8ation but here's what > just happened down the pub. > > 1. I mentioned in my post earlier today that there had been a poster > attack in the Ladbroke Grove area. I phoned my girlfriend to meet up > at the Earl Percy on Ladbroke Grove and asked her to bring her new > digital camera so's I could grab and upload to y'all. The bad news is > she left it at work... > > 2. I'd also phoned a couple of mates, one of whom turned out to have > seen the posters and actually ripped one down for his wall. This guy > who I've known for three years then spontaneously goes off into the > story of when he worked at the sorting office which handled the K > Foundation PO BOX mail. I'm sitting listening to may mate asking him > if he ever met the KLF then and he suddnely says "No...all their mail > was picked up by a guy called Michael." > > ARE YOU WITH ME? What we've already established is that "Michael K" was one of the KLF's publicists. Considering the nature of a lot of the KLF's publicity, to me this makes him a likely candidate for being a certifiable nutter from the start. And since he works for the KLF, he may have been the one to do the errands to go collect the KLF's post from the PO Box. He may also have made the tea. > 3. Suffice to say, I was a little incredulous but entirely convinced. > Pete's not exactly a KLF fan but he is an avid Maker/NME reader . He's also a Maker _writer_, which means he might get a little bit of information when something happens. > so he was well up on the K Foundation antics but not on the X$X thing > which I briefly summed up for him. Unfortunately, we didnt have time > to go much further other than for me to tell him about the list and > how to subscribe I thought he was already subscribed. In fact he gave me the impression that he was tired of getting over-curious mail about X$X and the KLF fanzines he's done in the past. > Anyway...this synchronicity is like slightly awesome and obviously I > need to talk morer to Pete about it at the first opportunity. Doesn't strike me as a synchronicity as such. Just one of those things. The way I see it- solely from posts made on this list- is as follows. Michael K, nutter and ex-KLF employee, does things, makes music. Maybe he's a DJ. Maybe he makes music in his bedroom. He puts together something called "1997", at a time when the KLF seem pretty much dead and there's nothing else to do except try to play off some of the enigmatic near-legend that they have left behind. It's crap bedroom music, no musical input from B & J, and when Pete Robinson receives it he throws it away. http://www.t2k.net is _not_ a B & J site. An article in Time Out is worded so that it mentions the site as "of interest to KLF fans", but it is not claimed to be the official site. Confusion arises because it seems to be up to date. A group of KLF fans still on the desperate trail of the Drummond-Cauty equivalents of the Holy Grail ("The Black Room", the real "1997", etc.), getting impatient at the non-release of the Kalevala album and the lack of new material for almost a year now but pumped up since "***k the Millenium" actually scraped the charts, go all hyper about rumour and rumours about rumour and rumours about rumours about rumour about 'my mate said this'. The fans of some of pop music's biggest scamsters are being scammed. Either directly or indirectly. If I'm wrong and it's a double-bluff, I'll eat my hat. I do have a hat, it's like one that Bill was wearing in one of their promo photos (although I bought the hat before I saw the photo), and I will eat it. > IMPORTANT PS: Somebody just asked me if I was the one who posted the > info about the xoom XSX site in Feb. I'M NOT!! > > My email is xdollarx_@hotmail.com NOT xdollarx@hotmail.com (the > post-er). The truth is I chose this address after unsuccessfully > trying to hack into the latter's account with all manner of variation > on password!! In that case, you quite definitely have too much time on your hands. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk "Aaarrrggh! I'm covered in beeeeeees!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Reed, Mark" Subject: FW: (klf) PO BOX 91 SHOCKA!! Date: 11 Aug 1998 16:05:51 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Reed, Mark > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 1998 4:04 PM > To: klf@list > Subject: RE: (klf) PO BOX 91 SHOCKA!! > > My considered contribution to this debate is - > > When's that runt (replace any letter of your choice with a 'C') Dutton > going to send me my CDs!!!!! Sorry, for this lack of topicality, but > he's really pissed me off, and I fantasise about giving him a good > kicking on behalf of myself and the disgruntled other subscribers he's > pissed off. > > I feel better for that rant. > > > Thank you for your forbearance > > > Mark > > This message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer. 'Internet communications are not secure. The Royal Bank does not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent.' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Graphics Bloke" Subject: (klf) What K's Going On? Date: 11 Aug 1998 16:25:00 +0000 Hi all, I've thrown off my cloak of darkness once more and stepped from out of the shadows where I lurk to ask a favour. Could some kind soul post a rundown of what's known about X$X? I've been reading with interest what people have been posting for the last week or so about this. I've looked at www.xdollarx.com (not much to see there) and now I'm confused. Where and when did this "thing" first appear (I'm assuming that the web page and the inclusion on the t2k site aren't the first times this monika has been seen)? What relation (if any) is it to B&J? Does anybody have any idea what the obscured text under the X$X logo (@ www.xdollarx.com) says? In short... What the f**ks going on? Cheers. MH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Daw Subject: (klf) FTM Reactivated? Date: 11 Aug 1998 16:47:49 +0100 Esprit Mail Order are re-advertising the Japanese CD5 "The Millennium" again and say it's due for release in December. Does anybody know anything about this? Esprit were selling this item late last year. I placed an order for a copy, but nothing arrived. I phoned Esprit about six months later and they said that they were unable to get them any more. All of a sudden, nearly ten months later a brand new copy arrived from Esprit this morning. Very strange! Simon -- Simon Daw # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Abel Subject: Re: (klf) What K's Going On? Date: 11 Aug 1998 16:29:09 +0100 Graphics Bloke wrote: > Does anybody have any > idea what the obscured text under the X$X logo (@ www.xdollarx.com) > says? PLEASE AWAIT FUTHER INFORMATION i think # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jharek Carnelian" Subject: (klf) Re: Problems with emails - specifically yours Date: 11 Aug 1998 10:26:30 -0700 Must be coz I dont have any Microshaft software. I think that's a capital offence when Bill finally runs the labour party. If it coz you're looking up mye-bottom then let's save some time.... I am Jesus and I have a hard-on. Let's rock! -- On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 15:23:18 Luke Hayter wrote: >Hi, > >I'm just wondering if anyone has reported having problems with >emails from you ? > >Thought it best to ask before I going on a wander through the >settings of M$ Outlook, and the mailer daemon used here. You've >sent about 7 in the last few of days that Outlook has complained >about, and it is only mail from you that is rejected. There's >nothing obviously wrong with the messages and it could just be >M$ not liking your Excite @ddress :) > >Please could you reply a message to me directly. > >Thanks in advance, > >Luke > > Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (klf) Names for kids Date: 11 Aug 1998 13:29:41 EST5EDT As I mentioned before, our first child is due in December. My wife and I still have to pick out a name if it's a girl. (Nicholas, if it's a boy....) My wife, last night, suggest something along the line of "Katrina Lee" or "Katalina Lucinda" or something like that. Our last name is Frank. So, will Cauty, Drummond, & Co. be eternally grateful if my firstborn has the initials KLF? :-) ("Shut up, Vince, you pathetic piece of shit!") :-P Too bad my last name isn't Berishnekov or something like that, then I could be looking for names along the line of ORB.... I suppose I could always change my last name.... Later! Vincent, who is going slightly insane on this day.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John.C.S.Quel" Subject: Re: (klf) Kalevala Heritage Date: 11 Aug 1998 20:25:56 +0100 Stuart Bruce writes >A friend of mine did a search on CD Now and found an album called >"Kalevala Heritage- Archive Records of Ancient". It's a Finnish >recording, and it's $15. > >Any connection with the KLF?... Anyone? This reminds me that I recently read in the Western Mail that Bill Drummond was making an appearance at the International Eistedffordd in Llangollen (as were a Finnish choir - though, it didn`t say if there was a connection between the two or what Kingboy D was doing). I thought that this would probably get a write up somewhere or be mentioned but I have seen nothing at all. I had a look at the programme details on their website but couldn`t find anything about either... Anyone here know what this was? (book reading?) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M/A/D Subject: Re: Fwd: (klf) Names for kids Date: 11 Aug 1998 21:16:06 +0100 Vince says: > >So, will Cauty, Drummond, & Co. be eternally grateful if my > >firstborn has the initials KLF? :-) > > M/A/D says: Probably not but Gimpo will most likely be impressed if you call him/her Billy Bookcase. (Those who know WILL know!) The New Agenda says: Make Yourself Herd. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy R." Subject: (klf) Gimpo says... Date: 12 Aug 1998 01:00:28 +0100 Ok, fresh from the mouth of the Master of Millenial Advice himself (nice bloke, bought me a drink), here is the full info on the Portabello film festival: Gimpo Film Technologies will be showing, free of charge, all manner of delights in the GFT caravan parked outside the 'Subterania' night club (Acklam Road, off Portobello Road, nearest tube Ladbrooke Grove) from 7pm till 2am on Weds 12th of August (ie TODAY if you read your mail on time). This will undoubtedly include exerpts from "Gimpo's 2nd 25 hour M25 spin" as well as other well known Gimpo films. Inside Subterrania itself, sometime after midnight, as part of the festival which the organisers say 'treads the dangerously fine line between Art and Porn' there is the prospect of seeing a brand new 3 minute Gimpo film, "Concrete Enema" (and, if Gimpo can talk the organisers into it, the famous "Gimpo's Twat") on the vast 'Screen 1' - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Graphics Bloke" Subject: Re: (klf) What K's Going On? Date: 12 Aug 1998 10:03:11 +0000 Hi all, Big thanks to Paul for the excellent story of X$X. That was just the sort of thing I was after. Top quality. MH. PS. Does anybody know what the content on the cd-rom was? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Hamilton" Subject: (klf) GFT Caravan Date: 12 Aug 1998 02:11:06 PDT Hello all...I went to Portabello last night. Saw loads of good films, had a great time, excellent atmosphere, pretty women, friendly alligators on the door...everything...but no Gimpo, X$X, Drummond (he wasnt part of the DISCO 2000 readings afterall) Did I miss anything? Did anyone go? It IS pretty hard to see everything admittedly.. there's so much on ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jerry Cornelius" Subject: Re: (klf) What K's Going On? Date: 12 Aug 1998 02:18:58 -0700 Yep...I do ...knid of. There's a bloke in Liverpool called Nigel who's at LIPA who had it when I was there for the musicians' summer schoollast year. He's been promising to do me some scans of sleeve etc. I saw it for about fifteen minutes and was describibg it to Andy R who I met last night at the Portabello thing. It had a time-travel kind of theme. Graphics pretty blocky in a "game-type section". Lots of K-Foundation style captions and basically loads of loads things with copyright violation ahoy. Theme seemed to be "culture jamming" although I didnt see it like that at the time. It fitted in with more detailed descriptions that hit the list around XMAS. I'm hoping to get it one of these days. When you see an Amiga CD-Rom section always have a look around because that's where it'll come up. It's for the CDTV. PS-if you're Andy again, you've got way too many email addresses. Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Graphics Bloke" Subject: Re: (klf) What K's Going On? Date: 12 Aug 1998 10:26:28 +0000 Cool, I'll keep an eye out. Now where did I leave that CDTV player :) And no - I'm not Andy. Or at least I don't think I am. MH. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Ashkenazi Subject: (klf) Space Date: 12 Aug 1998 14:52:48 +0300 Hi, I'm really sorry to bother you all with that, but i have to ask something. Can someone please tell with what's the matrix on the original 'Space' CD? Is it different from the bootleg version of it? Thanks, David 8?) -- __________________________________ David Ashkenazi, Tel-Aviv, Israel. IRC nickname: "Boredman". Phone: 971-3-6875091 adavid@inter.net.il ICQ: 13255725 13255725@pager.mirabilis.com http://www.mirabilis.com/13255725 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m u t e" Subject: (klf) Lots of stuff from the last digest... Date: 12 Aug 1998 05:32:11 PDT Great to see so much action on the list lately, incidentally...but now for some recent stuff: Peter Robinson said: "If it's so exciting simply because somebody has been appropriating the KLF's aesthetic then we may as well be spending our time discussing the Outhere Brothers. Or Portishead, who use the KLF font. Hey, you don't think Portishead *are* The KLF, do you? And, like, some of Michael K's mail came from Bristol." Tee-hee. And at the risk of missing the point (yeah, I know)- what's the similarity between the Outhere Brothers and the K-aesthetic? Jharek Carnelian (who I'm hoping isn't the same person as this list's "Jerry Cornelious"...) said: "However, such minutiae have been proved to be clue-some in the case of The Rites of Mu CD for example. The absence of the official Compacta font being a "bootleg" double bluff in that particular instance since B&J definitely authorised this release." Last word on this, as far as I recall, was that B&J actually took legal action against Echo Beach. Or are you contending that this, too, was part of the same elaborate double bluff? "It's not easy with The B&J because: 2. Contrary to what you've said they didnt really produce and perform much at all on their KLF records (Jams...yes). The KLF were a big collective...and though I cant hear much of Rockman Rock's Atari, I can hear Coler's keys and Bello, Harvey and Da Force on vox to mention just 4 of the gang." They did produce their stuff. And just because a piece of programming or guitar by one of them isn't as obvious as Ricardo's rap (or gut), doesn't mean that it isn't on the recording! "3. They DID say "DIVIDE & KREATE" and that's the era we're now in. Nobody knows who's doing what and all theories of "well it's not as professional as B&J would be" is 670% PURE-ARSE since FTM and Rites of Mu CD were DESIGNED to look second-hand, bootlegged, fake." Already addressed the Rites of Mu, but IMHO FTM looks less bootlegged than just feebly designed. Part of the whole underthinking that the project suffered from... "How many times has a humble teenage fanzine-writer got to write for IPC Publications and what would make a humble fanzine writer a "reliable" source for Push to check out the "unreliable" Michael K in the Melody Maker?" His obvious closeness to and knowledge of the legitimate K work would have made him reliable. And I know another guy (from another muisic-related mailing list) who graduated from writing a fanzine to a staff job on MM, and now a freelance gig at the same paper...so that makes at least two. Keep questioning, though. I'm enjoying your enquiring mind and *some* of your theories.... Colin Hamilton said, "But I think it was definitely B&J's intention to get SOME PROJECTS GOING.. The various JAMM things seem to me to be a direct response to his qupote at the time of FTM that it should be regarded as "THE STARTER's WHISTLE" " I think that this was just a reference to their own millennium-fucking activities...witness how the floppiness of the single has been followed by the apparent abandonment of both the Plant Hire website and the Pyramid construction. The JAMM stuff seems far more like a response to the call for such projects on the original version of the Gimpo/MAD site than something that Bill was involved with or attempting to inspire. "Perhaps the new T2K is a return." For the billionth time: "the new" www.t2k.net (the old gimpo.base.org) is Gimpo and M/A/D. . Not Michael K, not Drummond and Cauty. The web-artist currently known as M/A/D was an active member of this list for a long time before he started working with the Gimp; do you think that was more Michael K scam-work? Planning for years to fool us when the opportunity arose? Speaking of long-time active members of this list... Stuart Bruce said: "What we've already established is that "Michael K" was one of the KLF's publicists." Have we definitely? "> 3. Suffice to say, I was a little incredulous but entirely convinced. > Pete's not exactly a KLF fan but he is an avid Maker/NME reader . He's also a Maker _writer_, which means he might get a little bit of information when something happens. > so he was well up on the K Foundation antics but not on the X$X thing > which I briefly summed up for him. Unfortunately, we didnt have time > to go much further other than for me to tell him about the list and > how to subscribe I thought he was already subscribed. In fact he gave me the impression that he was tired of getting over-curious mail about X$X and the KLF fanzines he's done in the past. > Anyway...this synchronicity is like slightly awesome and obviously I > need to talk morer to Pete about it at the first opportunity. Doesn't strike me as a synchronicity as such. Just one of those things." Wrong Pete. He was (it seemed to me) talking about his friend who used to work in the PO, who happens to be named Pete, and he wasn't careful enough to clarify that he didn't mean the fanzine writer formerly known as Pete, now Peter Robinson. And finally...was M/A/D's quote of Gimpo's Billy Bookcase reference something from the IRC session? Sounds familiar...but I don't think I'm anyone special to "know". I'm out... Mute. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christian Villum Subject: (klf) Moody Boys - Kings of the funky zulus? Date: 12 Aug 1998 19:04:12 +0200 I've found a record - perhaps a Jimmy Cauty / Tony Thorpe item? No obvious catalog number or recordlabel, completely white cover. One side of the records has a zulu warrior pictured. VERY small letters say: "Art: Ady". No familiar graphics, logos, fonts etc. The other side features the text: Moody Boys - "King of the zulus" b/w "Playing with spears" + "United we conquer" written twice in a circle around the edge of the centerlabel. Scratched into vinyl is: M313-01-01-1 Can anybody enlighten me...? Christian V subwave@email.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) Moody Boys - Kings of the funky zulus? Date: 12 Aug 1998 20:48:06 +0100 (BST) I know a couple of people (incl. me) who have one of these. It was a very very early Moody Boys release. I think it pre-dates "Funky Zulu" and that lot on Citybeat. I presume since it is so early that Cauty is involved, but I don't actually know that. I've never seen a copy that has any more information than you've described (although I've not checked the matrix number on mine, I assume its the same - M313 doesn't mean anything to me, however). > I've found a record - perhaps a Jimmy Cauty / Tony Thorpe item? > > No obvious catalog number or recordlabel, completely white cover. > One side of the records has a zulu warrior pictured. VERY small letters say: "Art: Ady". No familiar graphics, logos, fonts etc. > The other side features the text: > Moody Boys - "King of the zulus" b/w "Playing with spears" > + "United we conquer" written twice in a circle around the edge of the centerlabel. > Scratched into vinyl is: M313-01-01-1 > > Can anybody enlighten me...? > > Christian V > subwave@email.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christian Villum Subject: RE: RE: (klf) Moody Boys - Kings of the funky zulus? Date: 12 Aug 1998 23:14:59 +0200 Culf wrote > "I know a couple of people (incl. me) who have one of = these. It was a very very early Moody Boys release. I think it = pre-dates "Funky Zulu" and that lot on Citybeat. I presume since it is so early that Cauty is involved, but I don't actually know that. I've never seen a = copy that has any more information than you've described (although I've not checked the matrix number on mine, I assume its the same - M313 doesn't mean anything to me, however)." Is it rare? Christian V subwave@email.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: RE: (klf) Moody Boys - Kings of the funky zulus? Date: 13 Aug 1998 09:17:03 +0100 (BST) Dunno! Relatively I guess, as not that many people seem to be aware of it. But don't quote me on that, cos I really haven't much more idea than you :) Culf. > I've not checked the matrix number on mine, I assume its the same - M313 > doesn't mean anything to me, however)." > > Is it rare? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M/A/D Subject: (klf) Whois Date: 13 Aug 1998 10:09:16 +0100 The correct use of 'whois'... Apologies to the vast majority of list-members that this does not apply to, but somebody needs to be told this: If you are going to use 'whois', please bear in mind that it gives you the details of the person who purchased the domain name, NOT the people it was purchased for. It would therefore be quite stupid to phone up some poor web designer who has been paid simply to register a domain and start asking questions about clients he may never even have met. It would be even more stupid to do this from America without taking account of the time differences when calling the UK. It would be quite astonishingly stupid to wake up such a web designer's wife up at four in the morning with your questions about a client she has never even heard of. This will not get you any answers, it will just get people annoyed. Thank you. Now, obviously the above is not me talking (I don't have a wife) but those who know will know... Cheers, M/A/D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Hamilton" Subject: Re: (klf) GFT Caravan Date: 13 Aug 1998 08:57:01 PDT Hi... I presume that some of the nutters gathered around and inside the GFT caravan were list-members. I got into the caravan briefly but it was pretty packed and everyone seemed to be busy talking. I watched it on a mionitor sticking out of the window... Didnt think much of it, but then what can you sa about repetitive footage of the M25? Concrete Enema which I think was the very last film was nothing short of disturbing. I had nightmares. Is there anything going on tonight? What about X$X? I still havent shot the posters I saw on that (if they're still there. Maybe this evening if me bird brings the requisite equipment home. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: Re: (klf) GFT Caravan Date: 13 Aug 1998 17:36:05 +0100 -----Original Message----- > >Hi... >I presume that some of the nutters gathered around and inside the GFT >caravan were list-members. Define Nutters??? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nhetrick Subject: Re: (orb) Re: (klf) Moody Boys - Kings of the funky zulus? Date: 13 Aug 1998 19:45:02 -0500 RE: Tony Thorpe (one-time KLF & System 7 collaborator) >> I've found a record - perhaps a Jimmy Cauty / Tony Thorpe item? >> This got me thinking -- what all is Mr. Thorpe *doing* these days, anyway? I picked up his "Recycled for the Environment" 2CD a while ago (some of it is pretty good), but that was 1995.... Neil Hetrick nhetrick@idsonline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Niko Tzoukmanis Subject: Re: (orb) Re: (klf) Moody Boys - Kings of the funky zulus? Date: 14 Aug 1998 12:40:13 +0200 nhetrick wrote: > > RE: Tony Thorpe (one-time KLF & System 7 collaborator) > >> I've found a record - perhaps a Jimmy Cauty / Tony Thorpe item? > >> > > This got me thinking -- what all is Mr. Thorpe *doing* these days, > anyway? I picked up his "Recycled for the Environment" 2CD a while ago mr thorpe has an own label called language (most well known artists buckfunk 3000 to my knowledge), more info can be found at the crammed page www.crammed.be cheers niko -- Niko Tzoukmanis URL: http://wwwhoppe.math.uni-augsburg.de/~tzoukman "Life's too short for boring music" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Hamilton" Subject: Re:(klf) GFT Caravan Date: 14 Aug 1998 04:26:35 PDT I take it you were one of the "nutters" outside the GFT Caravan. No offence intended. I was a little put off enquiring because a lot of the people seemed to be on something or pissed and they looked a bit....(choosing his words carfeully)....crusty. Again no offence intended but I was with the girlfriend and wearing a tie at the time and, well y'know. I didnt think I'd fir in with the action. (OK, OK...I'M the nutter.) I spotted Gimpo, though... he looked relaxed. PS-Went last night also. Not a lot happening other than the films inside. A bit cooler in there (temperature that is) so I actually watched some films all the way through this time. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Reed, Mark" Subject: (klf) Bill at Edinburgh Date: 14 Aug 1998 13:00:24 -0000 I don't want to get anyone's hopes up unduly, but I heard last night from a very reliable source that Bill Drummond will be doing a reading in Edinburgh next week. If anyone's interested in the details, let me know and I'll try to find out more over the weekend. Bear in mind though, that these sort of things get arranged and cancelled all the time, but my friend said that Bill has confirmed his appearance. Mark This message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer. 'Internet communications are not secure. The Royal Bank does not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent.' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Reed, Mark" Subject: (klf) Bill at Edinburgh follow up Date: 14 Aug 1998 16:24:01 -0000 Sorry to have raised peoples hopes unduly, but I have just spoken to my friend, and the reading with Bill has been cancelled. Bill had confirmed his attendance, apparently, but the event itself was cancelled. Chances are that he'll still be in Edinburgh for the festival, and he may turn up at another event. If I hear any more, I'll let you know. Mark P.S. I don't know whether he was going to be reading from Bad Wisdom Vol 1 or whether Zed would also have been there. This message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer. 'Internet communications are not secure. The Royal Bank does not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent.' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick Subject: Re: (klf) The Manual - German Issue Date: 15 Aug 1998 12:46:34 +0100 (BST) On Tue, 11 Aug 1998, Torsten Pattberg wrote: > I heard that a german issue of "The Manual" will be released in > september (Buchmesse Leipzig). Does anyone have further information? > I also hear that Ellipsis are releasing a UK version of this in September. It will feature new text by Bill and John Savage. More info to follow... :) NIk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ("KLF archivist-of-information") Nick Gilmour E-Mail: N.W.Gilmour@selc.hull.ac.uk WWW: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dgilmour/nick.htm KLF FAQ: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dgilmour/klf-faq.txt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Daw Subject: (klf) Discography Questions Date: 16 Aug 1998 11:41:48 +0100 I have been studying the Discography and have a few questions that list members may be able to solve. I will collect the answers and send them to Lazlo so that he can update the Discography. 1) What are the correct titles for the tracks on the KSTJ re-remix 12" (KLF 010RR or KLF PROMOA/B)? 2) What are the correct titles for the two Madrugada Eterna mixes on ETERNA 1 - are they really Club Mix and Club Mix Edit? 3) When exactly (which month) where the following remix tracks released. If you don't know the month, you may know between which other releases they came out: Build A Fire (Lenny Dee Remix), What Time Is Love (Power Remixes), Last Train To Trancentral (Benio Over And Out), What Time Was Love? Also, I think that the KSTJ mixes on KLF 010R may be labelled wrongly. If you listen to Kylie Said Harder it has samples from Kraftwerk's Trans-Europe Express in it, so I think that thsi track should be Trance Kylie Express (also it sounds pretty trancy). Therefore the track Trance Kylie Express should be Kylie Said Harder, which is probably right as it is a harder sounding remix of KSTJ. What does anybody else think? Thanks... Simon -- Simon Daw # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: (klf) Bad Wisdom script extract on the Web Date: 15 Aug 1998 00:41:26 +0100 (BST) Rather surprisingly, I found out yesterday that I got an 'A' for my essay and script extract for my degree project on adapting "Bad Wisdom" the novel into a graphic novel format. I wasn't expecting that, although the tutor did say that it was a 'quirky' essay which some lecturers would mark very highly and some very low... So anyway, to commemorate this- my first straight 'A' in the whole degree programme!- I've put the essay and the script extract on the Web, along with some of the images that I used to illustrate it. Including a _2700k_ image of Bill & Zed, which I don't believe has been seen on the Web before. The URL is: http://www.atomiser.demon.co.uk/klf/essay/ If anyone has any comments on it, please let me know. Thanks. Stuart. -- There is no signature. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: daniel Subject: (klf) free klf poster Date: 16 Aug 1998 14:37:05 -0500 (CDT) NOTE: this offer is only open to people who have American addresses. Sorry about that but postage overseas is expensive. I am moving and am giving away stuff. I have for FREE one klf poster. It is an arista promo poster with scenes from the 3 am eternal video. The first person who responds to this email will get it. If you do not get a response back that means you did not get it. The poster is in dodgy shape at best but hey it is free. It will be mailed to you next friday. thanks -daniel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis" Subject: (klf) Stop bollocking the list Date: 17 Aug 1998 00:52:13 +0300 People have suddenly appeared on the list, trying to confuse everyone else. How on earth can you know about the X$X, their connection to the KLF, to= t2k.net, to Michael K??? Who are you? Why am i sure that 99% of the list doesn't know what the fuck you are= talking about? Are you envying the KLF's power to disorientate? Any commens are welcome... Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies... Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', and his 'Fleria'. He has won... Obsessions : The KLF, Hip-hop, Cinema, 'Fleria', Comics Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis" Subject: Re: (klf) Lots of stuff from the last digest... Date: 17 Aug 1998 00:51:50 +0300 -Jharek Carnelian (who I'm hoping isn't the same person as this list's -"Jerry Cornelious"...) said: Of course he is! They even appeared on the same time on the list. And i don't think he is trying to hide it either! ->"However, such minutiae have been proved to be clue-some in the case of ->The Rites of Mu CD for example. The absence of the official Compacta ->font being a "bootleg" double bluff in that particular instance since ->B&J definitely authorised this release." Definetely? > Last word on this, as far as I recall, was that B&J actually took legal ->action against Echo Beach. Or are you contending that this, too, was ->part of the same elaborate double bluff? How would you know that??? ->2. Contrary to what you've said they didnt really produce and perform ->much at all on their KLF records (Jams...yes). Produced? Of course trhey have! Get real! Pranksters/email terrorists!!! Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies... Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', and his 'Fleria'. He has won... Obsessions : The KLF, Hip-hop, Cinema, 'Fleria', Comics Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis" Subject: (klf) Dutton Date: 17 Aug 1998 00:52:10 +0300 Still no sign of the video...... You guyz? Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies... Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', and his 'Fleria'. He has won... Obsessions : The KLF, Hip-hop, Cinema, 'Fleria', Comics Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jon Subject: Re: (klf) Discography Questions Date: 16 Aug 1998 15:30:14 -0700 >2) What are the correct titles for the two Madrugada Eterna mixes on >ETERNA 1 - are they really Club Mix and Club Mix Edit? My copy of this 12" does not contain any tracklisting at all. It has a pnk label, and in pen marks there's simply "KLF" written on it. The catalog number is simply ETERNA 1. The eidt is about 3:03 and the club mix is the same as the one that's no the Italian bootleg. I don't know the answers to any of your other KLF questions, hope someone does! Take care, jon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pel=E9?= Subject: (klf) been away for a coupla of days Date: 17 Aug 1998 00:40:27 +0200 hi was unsubsribed for about nine or ten days... of some=20 strange reason i cant figure out. has anything of importance happened? has black room=20 been released? ;) please let me know. cheers. /first p=E4r on the moon. =3D) - instant@earthling.net www.trickykid.home.ml.org - snapshot on pollardstreet. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: daniel Subject: (klf) the poster has left the building Date: 16 Aug 1998 22:45:51 -0500 (CDT) Well the poster has been given away. The winner was: hatch@voyager.net thanks... -daniel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m u t e" Subject: Re: (klf) Lots of stuff from the last digest... Date: 17 Aug 1998 01:12:45 PDT > -Jharek Carnelian (who I'm hoping isn't the same person as this list's > -"Jerry Cornelious"...) said: > >Of course he is! >They even appeared on the same time on the list. >And i don't think he is trying to hide it either! Well, that's appropriate, I suppose... >->font being a "bootleg" double bluff in that particular instance since >->B&J definitely authorised this release." > >Definetely? That wasn't me, I quoted that. As the below proves in context.. >> Last word on this, as far as I recall, was that B&J actually took legal >->action against Echo Beach. Or are you contending that this, too, was >->part of the same elaborate double bluff? >How would you know that??? Well, I thought someone on the list reported it. Mute. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) Stop bollocking the list Date: 17 Aug 1998 09:39:21 +0100 (BST) > People have suddenly appeared on the list, trying to confuse everyone else. > How on earth can you know about the X$X, their connection to the KLF, to t2k.net, to Michael K??? > Who are you? > Why am i sure that 99% of the list doesn't know what the fuck you are talking about? > Are you envying the KLF's power to disorientate? > > Any commens are welcome... How about, who in particular are you talking about? Why shouldn't people turn up with better knowledge than the people already on the list? Why shouldn't they know more than you? How can you speak for 99% of the list? Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) Stop bollocking the list Date: 17 Aug 1998 10:58:53 +0100 (BST) On Sun 16 Aug, Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis wrote: > > People have suddenly appeared on the list, trying to confuse everyone > else. > > How on earth can you know about the X$X, their connection to the KLF, > to t2k.net, to M ichael K??? > > Who are you? > > Why am i sure that 99% of the list doesn't know what the fuck you are > talking about? > > Are you envying the KLF's power to disorientate? > > Any commens are welcome... I've noticed that Culf's already attempted to tell you off, so here comes an attempt at rationality. Considering there are people on this list who seem like they _involved_ with t2k.net, it's not surprising that there's discussion and information about it. Considering there are people who have seen/met/communicated with Michael K, there is valid discussion about that. X$X too. Beyond the known facts, though, a lot of the discussion has been speculation and speculation alone. But that's great- better than silence, and more amusing. And since most people admit that it's speculation, there shouldn't be any problem. I reckon about 1% of the list doesn't know what's being talked about- the 1% who haven't actually realised they're subscribed yet. Maybe about half aren't really paying attention to the X$X threads, but that's usually the way. The people who you say are 'bollocking' the list should carry on. And the list members should carry on being objective and gathering their own opinions. It's a lot more fun than one post a week saying "does anybody know what the KLF are up to now?" and the half a dozen replies all saying simply "no". Stuart. -- I don't need no damn signature. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (klf) Lots of stuff from the last digest... Date: 17 Aug 1998 07:44:29 EDT > >->font being a "bootleg" double bluff in that particular instance since > >->B&J definitely authorised this release." [...] > >> Last word on this, as far as I recall, was that B&J actually took > legal > >->action against Echo Beach. Or are you contending that this, too, was > >->part of the same elaborate double bluff? > >How would you know that??? > > Well, I thought someone on the list reported it. Yes, i believe this came to our attention after someone called Rough Trade asking about it. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis" Subject: Re: (klf) Stop bollocking the list Date: 18 Aug 1998 01:23:40 +0300 >How about, who in particular are you talking about? Why shouldn't people >turn up with better knowledge than the people already on the list? Why >shouldn't they know more than you? How can you speak for 99% of the list? > >Culf. I guess it wasn't right to talk about 99% of the list. But i do think that= people are trying to become Bill and Jimmy- like by stating mysterious= things, covered by a dark shadow etc, etc. Knowledge is cool; speculation= is also ok. But people stating that they know things when it may be only= rumours suck. Show us the Black room CD Rom, send us the black room tape= or whatever else it is. Maybe i'm just confused coz i was out of Athens (and Internet) for a month= and too much info came suddenly. Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies... Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', and his 'Fleria'. He has won... Obsessions : The KLF, Hip-hop, Cinema, 'Fleria', Comics Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Helvard Subject: (klf) Illuminatus! trilogy Date: 18 Aug 1998 11:15:11 +0200 I'm in process of reading the Illuminatus! Trilogi by Shea/Wilson.. Even though i've only read 130 pages, and must say it's a must for every KLF-fan!!! The book is filled with conspiracy-theories about everything and everybody... eg.: Did you know that John Dillinger (that's right, the guy who said : 'Everybody lie down on the floor and keep calm') was a member of the JAMs and had to stage his own death to get the Illuminati off his back? I can strongly recommend this masterpiece to everyone who's interested in the KLF (and aren't we all?) and what the JAMs _really_ are........ - Thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Olsson Subject: Re: (klf) Illuminatus! trilogy Date: 18 Aug 1998 12:48:47 +0200 (MET DST) Speaking of the Illuminatus! trilogy, does anyone know if part 4 of the Historical Illuminati Chronicles exist? I have the first 3 parts and was quite disappointed when I found out at the end of part 3 that it was not the last part of the series. :( /John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Helvard Subject: (klf) Info-letters from the boys Date: 18 Aug 1998 14:04:45 +0200 Take a look at: http://www.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE/croft/just4laffs/klf/info.index.html veeeery interesting.. - Thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Norman Murray Subject: (klf) KLF on new album Date: 18 Aug 1998 17:23:39 +0100 Hi Just to say that the KLF what time is love (original pure trance mix) appears on the Pete Tong Essential Selection Summer of 1998 and before anybody says it doesn't -- it only appears on the "limited edition" version with extra CD subtitled Adventures In Wonderland twelve ibiza classics mixed by Paul Oakenfold. cat. no. 556 047.2 ffrr So I assume that they had to get permission to put this CD together and that means that they must have asked bill/jim and I thought there catalogue had been deleted and was never to be released again but then again maybe they get a mention in Adventures In Wonderland - A Decade of Club Culture by Sheryl Garratt. Haven't listened to the mix yet but b4 it is the cure with lullaby and after comes move any mountain by the shamen. -- see ya Norman mailto:murrayn@cs.man.ac.uk http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~murrayn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brian j parker Subject: Re: (klf) Illuminatus! trilogy Date: 18 Aug 1998 14:23:16 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, John Olsson wrote: > Speaking of the Illuminatus! trilogy, does anyone know if part 4 of the > Historical Illuminati Chronicles exist? Robert Anton Wilson wrote a number of other books set in the Illuminati "universe." Do a search for his name at your favorite online bookstore. brian j parker dj, computer geek, & black-clad cliche http://www.pitt.edu/~bjpst6 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Holly M. Laux" Subject: Re: (klf) Illuminatus! trilogy Date: 18 Aug 1998 22:56:40 -0600 >Speaking of the Illuminatus! trilogy, does anyone know if part 4 of the >Historical Illuminati Chronicles exist? I have the first 3 parts and was >quite >disappointed when I found out at the end of part 3 that it was not the >last part >of the series. :( > actually, yes. my boss is the guy who edited the first three books. every month or so he calls, writes or emails wilson and asks, "hey, are you ever gonna get the fourth book done?" of course, he words it nicer than that. unfortunately, wilson has been facing one of the longest bouts of writer's block that he or anyone has ever experienced. there's also a proposal written by shea (before his death) called "daughter of the illuminati" that is sitting with shea's wife waiting for wilson or someone to finish it. later, kris Curiosity is one of the most permanent and certain characteristics of a vigorous intellect. -- Samuel Johnson H o l l y M. L a u x * K r i s t o p h e r E. O ' H i g g i n s # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Olsson Subject: (klf) KLF FAQ Date: 19 Aug 1998 08:38:57 +0200 (MET DST) I'm sorry if this message ends up twice on the list. My mail program crashed when I pressed the "Send" button... What I wanted to ask was: Does anyone know what the status of the promised update of the KLF FAQ is? /John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Olsson Subject: (klf) All Music Guide Date: 19 Aug 1998 10:03:21 +0200 (MET DST) Have you seen www.allmusic.com, the web version of All Music Guide? They have a KLF entry, which (I think) is mostly correct, but it lacks a lot of information. Perhaps we should all join together and send in additions/corrections to them? ;) /John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m u t e" Subject: (klf) Worst songs ever... Date: 19 Aug 1998 06:05:04 PDT Terribly irrelevant, but one of Australia's three national commercial television networks just did a "fuzzy" news story about a British newspaper's list of the Worst Songs of All Time. They reported that "[Star Trekkin'], by Doctor Who And The Timelords, might have been awful to most people, but The Firm liked it so much....they covered it." Don't bother to thank me for sharing.... Mute. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Norman Murray Subject: (klf) KLF and new CD Date: 19 Aug 1998 10:40:18 +0100 Hi I posted this yesterday and don't know if it got through as had bug with mail and have lost all of last 2 days email. Anyway as I also lost the copy of the email I sent and this has probably been discussed already I assume. KLF what time is love (pure trance original) is on the limited edition version of the pete tong summer 98 essential selection. Includes 12 Ibiza classics mixed by paul oakenfold which is where wtil appears. -- see ya Norman mailto:murrayn@cs.man.ac.uk http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~murrayn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Hamilton" Subject: Re: (klf) Questions Date: 19 Aug 1998 10:46:51 PDT Hi. I did receive some answers on my recent questions and although I'm a little uncertain whether I should do this, I'm hoping their provider, the great Peter Robinson (sycophancy rules OK?) wont mind that I post them to the list for the greater benefit. Here we go with my questions and Pete's answers > Have your "Justifeied and Ancient History" and it is not bollocks as > Gimpo asserted. Thank you. But are you sure? > A. What IS this "1997" LP like...("shit", fair enopugh, you say, but > there are those of us who may differ if we heard it.) Um... all I can remember is noise. I sound like my father, don't I. Although I suppose you've never met my father, have you. Have you? > B. Have YOU ever met B&J...if so, when was the last time and have you > ever asked them about X$X, Michael K, etc? Met them quite a few times, but always in the capacity of fan until their Barbican gig where I was despatched by Time Out to report on them graffiti-ing the National. They were a bit boring, to be honest. Never bothered asking about MK. > C. How did you come to write the "Merry Pranksters" article from Melody > Maker (in the Mancentral archives). How did the interview with Michael K > come about? Push, who then edited the dance pages, had bought my fanzine and wasn't sure whether MK was for real so asked me to come along when he met him. I ended up writing the piece. I keep saying this but I wasn't at all convinced that MK was anything to do with B&J. Incidentally I write for Melody Maker a lot at the moment, but that came about for different reasons and the Editor had no idea about the KLF thing until last month when he stumbled across it in a back issue. > D. What was Scott Piering on about when he was quoted by you as saying > something to the eeffect of "Michael K has a complex scheme but seems to > be about media manipulation rather than music" (not your exact text) > I ask because at the time, the K Foundation were very much on THAT tip!! Just that - I think what Scott meant was that MK was inspired by the KLF's aesthetic rather than their music, and that for MK the music was incidental. I always thought the KLF did things the other way round, though of course aura inspired music toward the end. > E. Have you ever heard from or of Michael K since in respect of your KLF > contacts? No. I wonder what he's doing? I've got his address somewhere at home, or at least an old address. Perhaps I should try it... Hope this clears things up a bit.... Peter ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick Subject: Re: (klf) KLF FAQ Date: 19 Aug 1998 18:50:48 +0100 (BST) On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, John Olsson wrote: > I'm sorry if this message ends up twice on the list. My mail program crashed > when I pressed the "Send" button... > > What I wanted to ask was: Does anyone know what the status of the promised > update of the KLF FAQ is? > Ahem, It's still 'promised' at the mo. I've got all the relevant info handy, and will collate, disseminate and update shortly. Once I get my head around all this "Micheal K/X$X/Black Room" gubbins that is :) In the meantime, if anyone has any other info they would like to add, or can spot any glaring omissions, etc, please feel free... cheers, NIk [ ;sits and awaits the flood] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ("KLF archivist-of-information") Nick Gilmour E-Mail: N.W.Gilmour@selc.hull.ac.uk WWW: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dgilmour/nick.htm KLF FAQ: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dgilmour/klf-faq.txt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Hamilton" Subject: Re: (klf) GFT Caravan Date: 19 Aug 1998 10:55:35 PDT You wrote: >BTW I wonder what the x$x people think of >you admitting to trying to >hack their mailbox on the list? Yes. Perhaps that was a somewhat hasty confession:) If you're one of those affected, I apologise. Whoever said that I obviously had too much time on my hands was right, obviously. But give me credit, someone, I've (again) weaned myself off the X$X quest and have not logged on for nearly a week (or does it just feel like it?) By the way, any more news on that topic? unfortunately the posters I was going to photograph near Ladbroke Sainsbury's have since been pasted over. Fortunately my mate pete (of "I worked in K Foundation PO BOX" fame) tore one down for his wall. The pics will still be accomplished as soon as he comes back from oop north. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Hamilton" Subject: Re: (klf) GFT Caravan Date: 19 Aug 1998 10:56:47 PDT You wrote: >BTW I wonder what the x$x people think of >you admitting to trying to >hack their mailbox on the list? Yes. Perhaps that was a somewhat hasty confession:) If you're one of those affected, I apologise. Whoever said that I obviously had too much time on my hands was right, obviously. But give me credit, someone, I've (again) weaned myself off the X$X quest and have not logged on for nearly a week (or does it just feel like it?) By the way, any more news on that topic? unfortunately the posters I was going to photograph near Ladbroke Sainsbury's have since been pasted over. Fortunately my mate pete (of "I worked in K Foundation PO BOX" fame) tore one down for his wall. The pics will still be accomplished as soon as he comes back from oop north. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Hamilton" Subject: Re:(klf) Stop bollocking the list Date: 19 Aug 1998 11:19:29 PDT The only thing I've found confusing in the last few weeks is this Bizaaarrre message. What exactly are you on (about), Bizaarre? We've been on about all these things for quite a while and, as I remember, the likes of jharek and jerry who seemed to have explained that they're not one and the same (or did I dream that explanation?) have added a lot of good points on more than just the X$X/t2k/Michael K things. Moving swiftly onwards, t2k.net dont seem to have made much of the fact that Pete Rob gave them a free plug in Time Out which is read by more people than Q, Select, NME, Maker and Vox combined. What's this "Watch the etc..." about? And what is the story on X$X Communications exactly? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Neil Sampson 01276 693068 Subject: (klf) Other Data : Date: 20 Aug 1998 08:44:18 +0100 (BST) Nick wrote ; >In the meantime, if anyone has any other info they would like to add, >or >can spot any glaring omissions, etc, please feel free... How about adding something regarding the prompt delivery of 'TOWRST' and how we should all be chucking our cash at Mr D, because he's such a good bloke and has kept us informed of every progress throughout his projects. Re : Sarcasm, lowest form of wit. who gives a flying &*%@ ! neil - lowest form of life (bar one). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JT Subject: Re: (klf) Bad Wisdom script extract on the Web Date: 20 Aug 1998 18:23:11 +1000 Stuart said: > The URL is: > http://www.atomiser.demon.co.uk/klf/essay/ > > If anyone has any comments on it, please let me know. Thanks. Bloody hell 47701 hits on the page! How many people read this list?? Well done by the way, Stuart!! :) Also has anybody received their WhiteRoom Demos disc from Marshall yet, especially since he popped up on the list a few weeks ago saying they'll be shipping by now!? Thanks, John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m u t e" Subject: (klf) Blue Jam Date: 20 Aug 1998 01:38:22 PDT Remember all the talk months ago about Chris Morris' Chill Out-influenced, intended-to-be-broadcast-at 3am "ambient comedy" program, Blue Jam? Well, for the benefit of those of us who live in countries other than those that can receive BBC Radio One, some genius has put every episode on the web in Real Audio. You can stream or download zipped files from: http://cabinessence.cream.org/ Each of the six episodes per two series is broken into two, except for one episode censored by the Beeb...meaning that there are an even 23 files. The Law strikes again! And if anyone has tapes of other Morris material they'd like to share... Mute who has some Real Audio as the Weekly Treat on his website right now http://surf.to/muteradio ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) Bad Wisdom script extract on the Web Date: 20 Aug 1998 11:48:07 +0100 (BST) On Thu 20 Aug, JT wrote: > > Stuart said: > > The URL is: > > http://www.atomiser.demon.co.uk/klf/essay/ > > > > If anyone has any comments on it, please let me know. Thanks. > > Bloody hell 47701 hits on the page! How many people read this list?? > Well done by the way, Stuart!! :) Erm... not quite 47701 hits on _that_ page, that's the number of hits for _all_ the pages I do at atomiser.demon.co.uk. There've actually been about 50 to the KLF essay. If there are any Douglas Adams fans on this list they might be interested in http://www.atomiser.demon.co.uk/mh/faq/ and anybody who likes making (or has never heard of) Crisp Packet Triangles should check out the main page at http://www.atomiser.demon.co.uk/ So what if it's a plug? The next bit's about the KLF. > Also has anybody received their WhiteRoom Demos disc from Marshall > yet, especially since he popped up on the list a few weeks ago saying > they'll be shipping by now!? For some reason I suspect that as soon as somebody _does_ receive their White Room disc from Marshall, there will be _plenty_ of talk about it on the list... nothing as yet though. Erik's post was the first I heard about the entire batch being stolen by customs, though. What happens next? Stuart. -- Signatures? Who needs signatures? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis" Subject: Re: (klf) Questions Date: 21 Aug 1998 01:03:28 +0300 Colin poetically states: >Hope this clears things up a bit.... It does. A bit (really, if you read it you won't learn something new, wll= you?) How come a KLF fan doesn not remember a supposedly KLF tape (1997)? Bizarre! Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies... Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', and his 'Fleria'. He has won... Obsessions : The KLF, Hip-hop, Cinema, 'Fleria', Comics Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis" Subject: Re:(klf) Stop bollocking the list Date: 21 Aug 1998 01:05:25 +0300 Hi CCColinnnnn, *********** REPLY PARTITION *********** On 19/8/1998, at 9:20 =EC=EC, Colin Hamilton wrote: - the likes of jharek and jerry who seemed to have explained -that they're not one and the same (or did I dream that explanation?) How come i never read this message? >have added a lot of good points on more than just the X$X/t2k/Michael K >things. If it's true, that's cool. What about revealing the sources? Or are they a= big conspiracy? Could the (gulp..) Illuminati be behind it?? >And what is the story on X$X Communications exactly? Wish i knew Mr. Colin Haaaamiltton Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies... Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', and his 'Fleria'. He has won... Obsessions : The KLF, Hip-hop, Cinema, 'Fleria', Comics Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) Questions Date: 21 Aug 1998 00:30:11 +0100 (BST) On Thu 20 Aug, Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis wrote: > > Colin poetically states: > >Hope this clears things up a bit.... > > It does. A bit (really, if you read it you won't learn something new, > wll you?) How come a KLF fan doesn not remember a supposedly KLF tape > (1997)? I'm a KLF fan, I don't even remember what I had for breakfast. Or more logically, it was easily dismissed as not being a KLF tape, which Pete did remember. He happened not to remember which pile of unimportant trash he threw the tape onto, which is a much easier mistake to make. Stuart. -- If I started posting under the name Stewart Brice, would you believe me? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick Subject: (klf) KLF in Road Rocket mag (Autumn 1991) Date: 21 Aug 1998 00:55:35 +0100 (BST) Last Triumph To Trancentral Road Rocket, Autumn 1991 Words: Hugo Wilson Pics: Steve Lovell-Davis Only the KLF themselves really know what the Kopyright Liberation Front are about. Forget straitjacket descriptions like ambient house pop dance crossover stadium rockers, the KLF are masters of mystery, kings of konfusion and all that. They understand bikes, though, in their own unfathomable way WANTED: ICE-CREAM VAN 1960S TYPE WITH ROCKET BACK LIGHTS CONTACT KLF COMMUNICATIONS PO BOX 283, HP22 5BW THIS ADVERT clearly needs some explanation. The explanation involves silliness on a major scale. The KLF - The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu - The JAMS - Rockman Rock and Kingboy D. They may have other aliases. Their real names are, apparently, Bill Drummond and Jimmy Cauty. The most obvious thing they have done in the last four years is make a number of hit records. They have also made films and videos. They have also conducted a campaign of self promotion through the blunt use of graffiti and the weird happening. They are into motor-bikes and they are mad. Definitely Road Rocket material. Drummond used to play for the Liverpool band Big in Japan. He went on to manage Echo and the Bunnymen. Cauty was the guitar player for mid eighties hopefuls Brilliant. That project came to an un-glamorous end. Both men were well sick of the music business in general and record companies in particular. They formed the KLF. That was in 1987. They began using primitive rapping and sampling techniques to make music. What this means is that they appropriated chunks of other people's records, mixed them up and made great dance tracks. A sort of musical collage. Nothing was sacred. They used everything from Samantha Fox to the Monkeys via Dave Brubeck and the Beatles. All you need to do this is some fairly basic and easily available electronic equipment. Initially they operated as the Justified Ancients of Mu Mu and put out their records on their own KLF label. Unfortunately this sort of thing doesn~ go down too well with copyright lawyers... One of the songs they used was Abba's seventies hit Dancing Queen. Abba didn't like what the JAMS had done to their record, so they set wheels in motion to stop them. Bill and Jimmy set their wheels in motion to sort it out, their wheels being a 1968 police specification Ford Galaxie 500. Into this vehicle they bundled the remaining copies of the offending LP 1987. They also took a music journalist and a photographer. Destination? Sweden and Abba. The trip wasn't a resounding success. They failed to see Abba, crashed into a moose, presented a gold disc to a Stockholm prostitute, burnt the remaining copies of the LP and returned with a very dead Ford courtesy of AA 5 Star travel insurance. Nice. These days the KLF (Kopyright Liberation Front) are as philosophical about copyright law as they are about the AA. "We thought you could get away with breaking the law," says Jimmy. "You cant" The album is now a collectors' piece. For their next escapade they changed their name to The Timelords and released a single called Doctorin' the Tardis. It was a Gary Glitter rock 'n' roll rhythm with a touch of the Doctor Who theme. The BBC hated it. It went to number one within three weeks of release. They followed this up with a book. Entitled The Manual it carried the subtitle, 'How to have a number one hit the easy way'. Like most manuals, it was hilarious. Unlike most manuals, this was intentional. It also contains a money back guarantee. If you follow the instructions inside you WILL have a number one selling record. Towards the end of '88 the Ford was pressed into service for another trip. Scandinavia held no appeal. They went to Spain to make a film. They've got six hours of film representing about two weeks driving. But the project is on hold. Bill explains, "It's that road movie thing, it can only end in death. We're not ready for that yet." Fair enough. In 1989 they got on with what they did best - doing mad things and making dance records, specifically the track What Time is Love which provoked masses of unauthorised cover versions and copycat tunes. The KLF response was simple: collect all the bootleg copies onto an LP called the What Time is Love Story No one asked their permission to make the cover version, so no one gets asked if they want to be on the LP. Neat. Another re-mix of What Time is Love made it to number five in the UK chart in the summer of 1990. This year 3am Eternal spent two weeks at number one. A third track, Last Train to Trancentral reached number two. The album The White Room, has been in the LP charts since its release in March. There's more - a 30 minute video called The Stadium House Trilogy. It contains the brilliant video for Last Train and other things. And there's going to be a world tour in1992. They have just returned from the outer Hebrides where they have been making a film while wearing druid outfits and Rhino horns. In fact they weren't interested in being photographed without some form of disguise. "We're trying to detach ourselves from reality," Bill explained. They are doing pretty well on that score. We met them at a West London recording studio to hear bike stories. Bill, 37, kicked off with a tale of a paranoid weekend and a borrowed chopper. The details of the story are unprintable. His riding impressions of the machine are: "I'd never ridden a chopper before. It was absolutely horrible." Jimmy, 34, aced him with "The famous exploding Panther story". "It was my first big bike," he said. "The gearbox was tied on with rope and it had an armchair bolted on in place of the sidecar body. I was at one of those petrol stations which are unattended at night. You put 50-pence pieces in the machine and it lets you take the petrol. We were filling up and the bike caught fire." Obviously Jimmy legged it, leaving a blazing bike on the garage forecourt. Some hero with a fire extinguisher put the blaze out before the premises went up in flames, but the Panther was a goner. The charred Panther was replaced with a sunbeam 57, the BSA group's mid-fifties gentleman's bike. "The bloke I bought if off didn't want to sell it to me," Jimmy said. "He said I should buy a fast bike. He was right. It did about fourteen miles an hour and overheated." As soon as he had made some proper money Jimmy bought a proper bike. It was a one-year-old US-spec 750cc Triumph Bonneville. This was 1977. It stayed US-spec for about two weeks before the high bars were junked and the development process began. The end result of fourteen years of use and abuse is seen here. In fact there are now two Bonnies. The original bike has a blocked sludge trap and a multitude of other ailments. So the tank, seat and other assorted nick-nacks have been commandeered to get bike number two into the correct shape. But bike number on will work again. "When I've got time" says Jimmy. For the photo session he gaffer-taped some fire extinguishers to it in place of the missing alloy tank. "They look brilliant. I'm going to have some proper tanks made like that," he said while running over the other details. Clip-ons are "essential". The headlamp stalk makes the whole bike look "longer and more animal like." Maltese Cross back lights are "optional", as are blown fork oil seals which squirt oil into your face when you brake. The basic philosophy is keep it low, keep it long and trash everything you don't need. The only exception to this rule seems to be horns. The bike used to have four air horns: plenty loud enough. Unfortunately they used so much power that the engine would die if you used them. A minor consideration. Jimmy comments that it would be nice to use the bikes in a video. Bill responds, "The trouble with bikes on film is that they don't blow up as spectacularly as cars." "Yes," Jimmy agrees, "but they crash more spectacularly." "And," Bill adds, "they're better for being shot off." Jimmy changes the subject. "I can play guitar and ride a motorbike at the same time. I've been practising." Obviously a respectable magazine like Road Rocket cannot possibly endorse this kind of behaviour. Their favourite road? The A4 gets the unanimous verdict. I wasn't quite able to fathom why The conversation continues. Bill expresses a preference for seeing scooters rather than shiny Vincents. He also admits that he is "Not currently biking. I'm stupidly romantic about bikes. I know the reality is being absolutely frozen and I'm glad I'm not doing that now". Actually, his hobby is bird watching, which is fine too. Pretty soon it's time for them to get back to the "unenjoyable" business of making a new single. It may come out around September. Their working title for the project is The Ice Cream Men. Which brings us back to the ice cream van. If you want to part with a relic of the sixties, sent us a card: we'll forward it.. [END] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Holly M. Laux" Subject: Re: (klf) Illuminatus! trilogy Date: 20 Aug 1998 19:41:19 -0600 >Wilson wrote what was supposedly (to my knowledge) the fourth in the series, >called Masks of the Illuminati, I've been told it's very good, and I actually >have it, but I haven't had time to read it yet.... > Masks is not a sequel (the fourth book) to the Historical Ill., but is an historical (fictional) book about the Illuminati . later kris Curiosity is one of the most permanent and certain characteristics of a vigorous intellect. -- Samuel Johnson H o l l y M. L a u x * K r i s t o p h e r E. O ' H i g g i n s # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (klf) KLF in Road Rocket mag (Autumn 1991) Date: 21 Aug 1998 01:47:58 EDT > WANTED: ICE-CREAM VAN > 1960S TYPE WITH ROCKET BACK LIGHTS > CONTACT KLF COMMUNICATIONS > PO BOX 283, HP22 5BW Obviously for J&A... > there's going to be a world tour in1992. .....oh....DAMN! > They have just returned from the outer Hebrides where they have been > making a film while wearing druid outfits and Rhino horns. In fact they > weren't interested in being photographed without some form of disguise. > "We're trying to detach ourselves from reality," Bill explained. They are > doing pretty well on that score. Obviously for J&A.... > Pretty soon it's time for them to get back to the "unenjoyable" business > of making a new single. It may come out around September. Their working > title for the project is The Ice Cream Men. Which brings us back to the > ice cream van. If you want to part with a relic of the sixties, sent us a > card: we'll forward it.. um.... obviously for J&A.... um, wait, that can't be right... -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) KLF in Road Rocket mag (Autumn 1991) Date: 21 Aug 1998 09:26:30 +0100 (BST) > > WANTED: ICE-CREAM VAN > Obviously for J&A... Aye. > > They have just returned from the outer Hebrides where they have been > > making a film while wearing druid outfits and Rhino horns. In fact they > Obviously for J&A.... No, Waiting or Rites Of Mu, surely? > > Pretty soon it's time for them to get back to the "unenjoyable" business > > of making a new single. It may come out around September. Their working > > title for the project is The Ice Cream Men. Which brings us back to the > > ice cream van. If you want to part with a relic of the sixties, sent us a > > card: we'll forward it.. > um.... obviously for J&A.... um, wait, that can't be right... Sounds OK to me. Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Hamilton" Subject: Re: (klf) Questions Date: 21 Aug 1998 02:51:17 PDT Ehm...Bizarre, I thought I'd told you that it my last message was what Pete Robinson had sent to ME!! The "Hope this clears things up a bit" is from him as are all previous answers. Mine were THE QUESTIONS he's answering. Are you with me? Colin ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Hamilton" Subject: Re: (klf) Questions Date: 21 Aug 1998 02:54:28 PDT Ehm...Bizarre, I thought I'd told you that it my last message was what Pete Robinson had sent to ME!! The "Hope this clears things up a bit" is from him as are all previous answers. Mine were THE QUESTIONS he's answering. Are you with me? Colin ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Robinson" Subject: Re: (klf) KLF in Road Rocket mag (Autumn 1991) Date: 21 Aug 1998 11:46:14 +0100 > > WANTED: ICE-CREAM VAN > > 1960S TYPE WITH ROCKET BACK LIGHTS > > CONTACT KLF COMMUNICATIONS > > PO BOX 283, HP22 5BW > > Obviously for J&A... Having said this, it's a bit peculiar that they needed to advertise when the ice cream van they ended up using was parked outside their Brixton offices, fully operational, for years. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Robinson" Subject: (klf) X$X Date: 21 Aug 1998 11:48:11 +0100 As I suspected, the 1997 tape was nowhere to be found in my loft. What a "great loss" and so on. Did however find some letters and general shit from Michael K which will probably be interesting to people who are interested. I'll let you know when I've put these on the web. Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nigel_Armstrong@tertio.com Subject: (klf) For those in London... Date: 21 Aug 1998 14:11:09 +0100 ... I just saw a copy of 1987 in Reckless Records in Upper St, Islington. ?35.00 (up on the wall, naturally). I assume it's not a boot, but who knows? Nigel Armstrong, who usually prefers to lurk, being made that way. Tertio Limited - One Angel Square, Torrens Street, London EC1V 1NY Tel: +44 (0)171 843 4000 Fax: +44 (0)171 843 4001 Web http://www.tertio.com Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Tertio Ltd. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Robinson" Subject: (klf) Right, Date: 21 Aug 1998 20:32:27 +0100 If you look at http://www.btinternet.com/~pete.rob/ then the jpeg files are the Michael K ones. How "exciting". Peter xxx # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Hamilton" Subject: Re:(klf)Right , Date: 22 Aug 1998 01:36:17 PDT Pete, thanks for"pictures" but I'm more confused than ever. I've got some unsolicited mail which bears remarkable similar nonsense but since it contained issues of "HOAX!", I've assumed that it was something from John Quel and JAMM. Can anyone mail me privately on this subject. Also, Pete, I'm sure I'm not going to be the first to say, how come you kept this stuff and not the tape? Alos, do you really hate this guy Michael K as much as it seems? Like I say I'm confused.. Exactly how did you come to be involved with Michael K? When do these things date from exactly (before or after that "Merry Pranksters" article you did? Have you read any of the other comments recwently about that article? Colin (PS-I hope you didnt mind me posting your recent (private) email on Michael K to the list. Various people were asking whether I'd received any answers to my questions a couple of weeks ago and it seemed quicker to reply to them by sharing the info you gave.) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryson Mills" Subject: (klf) Hello! Date: 22 Aug 1998 02:04:41 PDT I just subscribed to this list after seeing it mentioned on the KLF Webring. My name's Bryson Mills. I havent read everything in the "Welcome to KLF" message so if it specifically asks me not to introduce myself to the list, I apologise straight away!! I've some items I want to trade although I've yet to put my details together. Is it OK to post these details to the list? Cheers Brys ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Hamilton" Subject: (klf) The Michael K online Art Exhibition Date: 22 Aug 1998 03:57:55 PDT I'm sorry but having already had a private reply from "someone" (;P) denying connection with these "Pete Robinson" scans of (alleged) "Michael K" comms, I am led to several conflicting theories. 1.Michael K posted these things. He's on the list. 2.Pete Robinson posted these things on Michael K's behalf. They work together. They are X$X. (I am particularly suspicious of the 23rd december 1993 postmark) 3. These are yet another and very substantial red herring in the ongoing madness that is whatever it is. Very interesting but introducing all sorts of new shit. 4.If these are genuine then Michael K appears to have scammed whoever X$X were in 1992/3 and seems to have little or nothing to do with their doings at the time of writing these "writings". 5.If these are genuine, then why did you put them up, Peter? Especially if its perpetuating interest in someone you've apparently got very little regard for. Hmmm.... 6.If they're genuine, it seems obvious that you had very much more to do with this bloke than has previously been surmised by the list. What are these things? How many times did you communicate with their writer and when did these occur. In conclusion WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis" Subject: Re: (klf) Right, Date: 22 Aug 1998 14:09:28 +0300 Hi Pete, nice stuff you got there. One lil question: 112.jpg isn't there; should it?? Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies... Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', and his 'Fleria'. He has won... Obsessions : The KLF, Hip-hop, Cinema, 'Fleria', Comics Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis" Subject: (klf) Remember this? Date: 22 Aug 1998 14:14:34 +0300 Just to remind the list: You do remember http://www.warezclan.com/ ? it seems as if it's dead- hasn't changed in months....... Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies... Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', and his 'Fleria'. He has won... Obsessions : The KLF, Hip-hop, Cinema, 'Fleria', Comics Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis" Subject: Re: (klf) The Michael K online Art Exhibition Date: 22 Aug 1998 14:17:14 +0300 >In conclusion WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON? Hi Colin, it seems as if you've come to my words...finally:) Also, why now???? Why post that stuff nearly 5 years after they were sent to you Peter? It still is valuable stuff. As Poirot said, a lie is as good as a= truth...... Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies... Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', and his 'Fleria'. He has won... Obsessions : The KLF, Hip-hop, Cinema, 'Fleria', Comics Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Hamilton" Subject: (klf) Re: Aaaaaaargh! Date: 22 Aug 1998 05:01:05 PDT I agree....but it's even more confusing than all that! Aaaaargh! Pete Robinson has privately emailed me several times and seems to think that other people (including you and me) might be Subject: (klf) AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!! Date: 22 Aug 1998 13:12:07 +0100 24 hours after I posted the list with details of the X$S material, I'm accused of being a liar and a fraud. As somebody once said, "Bloody hell". I think it was me. Just then. Ah yes, it was. To tackle the points so far, one by one: 1. I've got some unsolicited mail which bears remarkable similar nonsense but since it contained issues of "HOAX!", I've assumed that it was something from John Quel and JAMM. PETER SAYS: I too received unsolicited mail from "Hoax!", but never in conjunction with X$X stuff. I can't really make any helpful comment on this. (nb Not because I don't want to, or because OTHER PEOPLE are CONTROLLING ME, but because I simply don't know the answer.) 2. Also, Pete, I'm sure I'm not going to be the first to say, how come you kept this stuff and not the tape? PETER SAYS: Y'know, I'm not sure. You're obviously doubting that I ever had the tape, and if I were you so would I. The note which appears to be from Bill Drummond (it's not, the signature isn't his though it's meant to look that way) came accompanying the tape, hence "We thought you should be the first to know" etc. The reason I still had the letters is that I've kept absolutely everything I was posted regarding my fanzines - orders, comments, and so on, in a big box that I've not opened for ages. It just sat in my loft collecting dust. As for cassettes, they were always kept in my bedroom. Hundreds of tapes, many full of rubbish. When I left for University in 1995 I had to throw some away, so I did. I didn't think twice about chucking out the Michael K one. 3. Alos, do you really hate this guy Michael K as much as it seems? PETER SAYS: There's no reason to hate him. Although I only met him once and spoke on the phone a few times (no, I don't remember what he said), he seemed very nice. What I do hate - more resent, really - is the constant implication that I am him, even though I have repeatedly said that I am not. It only takes somebody with a bit of common sense, and some sort of knowledge of my age and background, to realise that I was doing A Levels and GCSEs during X$X's peak period (if indeed there was one) and would have had no way of gallavanting around Bristol, and operating from there, when I lived in West Sussex. Another reason why I'm a little put out is that I don't consider the X$X "scam" to be particularly interesting, inspiring, or successful (proper scams aren't accused of being scams), and don't like to be associated with it on those grounds. 4. Exactly how did you come to be involved with Michael K? PETER SAYS: In 1992 I wrote a KLF fanzine which was advertised or reviewed in most major music publications and got a bit of airtime on Radio 1 and Radio 5. As was the case with various people whose names I recognise from this list, Michael K saw my details and got in touch. 5. When do these things date from exactly (before or after that "Merry Pranksters" article you did?) PETER SAYS: I can't remember what date the article came out, but it was probably a few months prior. Michael K's letters didn't warrant individual acknowledgements in my diary at the time, sadly. I know it's unforgivable. 6. Have you read any of the other comments recwently about that article? PETER ASKS: Where? On the list? I've seen some spurious assumptions and accusations being bandied around, if that's what you mean? 7. PS-I hope you didnt mind me posting your recent (private) email on Michael K to the list. Various people were asking whether I'd received any answers to my questions a couple of weeks ago and it seemed quicker to reply to them by sharing the info you gave. PETER SAYS: No, it's fine. But don't try hacking into my mailbox. 8. No "1997"? No surprise there, then!! You are Michael K and I claim my free copy of "The Black Room!! I mean who else would keep and take the trouble to scan and upload this crap? PETER ANSWERS: Only an absolute madman would claim that I am Michael K. I think, perhaps, that somebody would take the trouble to scan and upload crap like that if they wanted to help out some people who were clearly in need of some direction. I'm sorry if my efforts haven't been appreciated. In future I won't bother. 9. I'm sorry but having already had a private reply from "someone" (;P) denying connection with these "Pete Robinson" scans of (alleged) "Michael K" comms, I am led to several conflicting theories. PETER SPLUTTERS: Well I'm not fucking surprised that somebody else has denied connection with them. It was me! Jesus Christ. 10. Michael K posted these things. He's on the list. PETER: Is he? If he's reading this perhaps he could email me privately to say hello. Unless, of course, it's somebody using his name. 11.Pete Robinson posted these things on Michael K's behalf. They work together. They are X$X. PETER: No. Haven't heard from him in over 3 years. I do hope he's well. 12. (I am particularly suspicious of the 23rd december 1993 postmark) PETER: Because, like, that's the day that Peter Robinson always posts himself mail. 13. If these are genuine, then why did you put them up, Peter? Especially if its perpetuating interest in someone you've apparently got very little regard for. Hmmm.... PETER: Call me naive, but I was kind of hoping that the more information you all had, the less you would believe Michael K had anything to do with The KLF and - certainly - anything to do with me. I don't hate Michael K, but I don't understand the situation either. Looking at any of those items I scanned, can you possibly tell me that it isn't the work of a man with rather a lot of time on his hands? If I was working for anybody in any sort of official capacity I certainly wouldn't have the time to do all *that*. And don't forget, that's just what one person got. Unless I was the only person being sent this stuff, Michael K must have been scrawling these envelopes and postcards 10, 20 (who knows how many) times over. 14.If they're genuine, it seems obvious that you had very much more to do with this bloke than has previously been surmised by the list. What are these things? How many times did you communicate with their writer and when did these occur. PETER: I don't think I threw any written communications from Michael K away. So that's it. 15. One lil question: 112.jpg isn't there; should it?? PETER: No, that was a spazzy scanning error on my part. 16. Also, why now???? Why post that stuff nearly 5 years after they were sent to you Peter? It still is valuable stuff. As Poirot said, a lie is as good as a truth... PETER: Now because people are talking about it now and it seems a good time. I gather it's been quite intense on the list in the past, but I wasn't subscribed then. (No, I wasn't lurking.) I know it's valuable in a (very loose, highly questionable) sense, which is why I have shared this with the list. JERRY SPRINGER'S THOUGHT FOR THE DAY: "Y'know, sometimes we all need to believe in something. But that doesn't mean Peter Robinson has anything at all to do with Michael K." PETER SAYS: I'm not Jerry Springer, either. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryson Mills" Subject: Re: (klf) AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!! Date: 22 Aug 1998 06:35:07 PDT Uh-oh. It kind of looks like I've joined this list at the wrong moment. I'll not ask stupid questions though. I tuned into KLF-world a couple of weeks ago when A Time Out article pointed me in the direction of the new KLF site (http://www.t2k.net) and have been exploring the various sites on the Web Ring since then. I saw the X$X Communications things and it all rang a bell albeit very vaguely. (At this moment in time this list-newbie could really use a "reading list" from any list members who know where I can find out more on all this. Then I can do a bit of "cramming":) But can I respectfully point out to Pete.Rob that it's a bit silly to say on one hand, "...I don't hate Michael K,but I don't understand the situation either. Looking at any of those items I scanned, can you possibly tell me that it isn't the work of a man with rather a lot of time on his hands?..." While, on the other, taking the time to scan all this confusing stuff and then write a short essay in support. I think it would have taken this Michael K considerably less time with a biro than it's taken to perpetuate his doodles here, assuming that you didnt get all of these in the same week. I hope I'm not sounding sarcastic. Just an observation. Brys ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (klf) AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!! Date: 22 Aug 1998 12:33:19 EDT Well in response to the letter you've written, I can safely say that I believe you're not Michael K. Now at this point I begin to get lost. As far as I've seen (not to say I've seen everything), Michael K has no real tangible musical connection with the KLF. At this point I wonder if he even has a connection to X$X. Maybe so, maybe not. Perhaps he is an obsessed fan who created an elaborate scheme to convince people he has some sort of connection to them. Maybe he's an egomaniac out for attention. Maybe he's just a guy, who by several strange coincidences and a few readings of The Manual, decided to generate some mystery a la KLF, and was accidentally mistaken as one of them, or a co-conspirator of theirs. What I'm wondering is what direct impact X$X has on KLF, because it appears as if there is no connection between them, other than the two groups being acquaintances and possibly (though at this point probably not) co-conspirators in generating hype for their projects. It seems to me that everything is circumstantial, that "hey there's a chance that if this and this and this occured at this time to this person then MAYBE this happened IF this person knows this person" isn't enough to cause the mild hysteria surrounding the X$X project. From my standpoint (which of course may be completely off base, I invite a contradiction), there's an excellent chance that the KLF and X$X have no direct connection. Furthermore, Michael K may have no direct connection to X$X, and may be just as in the dark as everyone else. And I do believe that it's been established that Peter Robinson has no real connection to Michael K. So what's next? Have I missed key information? Or is everyone beginning to clutch at straws? Is there any tangible concrete evidence of a connection between any of these groups and anyone else? Does any of this have any bearing on anything else musically? And finally, does anyone have any X$X vynil/tape/cds? Hope this all gets cleared up, Jarrod Spaceman I've always wanted you to go into Space man....... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: (klf) Chill out remixes Date: 22 Aug 1998 15:04:30 +0200 Hi I recently have aquired four KLF Tracks called Chill Out 2 Part 1 and part 2 (remix) Chill Out 3 Part 1 and part 2 (remix) They are about 90 min all 4 together and very proffesionally made. The dicography mentions Chill out 2, as "Reportedly a Bill-Jimmy-Alex Paterson collaboration" but no mention of the Chill out 3 mixes - can anybody give me more info on these exellent mixes?? Lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Robinson" Subject: (klf) "Only A Madman Would Claim That I Am Michael K" - Robinson, 1998 Date: 22 Aug 1998 22:36:06 +0100 There have been rumours and bilge but as far as I know, I'm just about the only person that's ever had to deal with X$X in person. As far as I've always known, X$X is Michael K but after a few careful phone-calls and a long intro of gossip in my local, the Bull & Gate, Kentish Town (where Gimpo was setting up some band called "27" who neither myself or Michael had ever heard of), I managed, in my customary journalistic stylee to arrange a LIST-EXCLUSIVE. Without further ado, here he is. Michael K:"Who wants to know?" Peter Robinson: "Well there have been...ahem...enquiries. Are you X$X? Michael K: "X$X is dead...so far" Peter Robinson:" Were you ever anything to do with X$X?" Michael K: " I should fucking well hope so. Otherwise what were those interviews and cruel words all about?" Peter Robinson: "All I was saying in that Melody Maker piece was that I doubted your credibility. How can you now prove that you've anything to do with X$X?" Michael K: " I thought the problem back then was what I had to do with the KLF?" Peter Robinson:" But since then we've fairly clearly established that X$X have nothing to do with Jimmy and Bill. Isn't THAT true?" Michael K:"Absolutely" Peter Robinson: "So does that mean that Bill and Jimmy have absolutely no knowledge of X$X?" Michael K: " Obviously not." Peter Robinson: "So...other than reading about it or whatever through the usual media channels, have they ever had any involvement with X$X?" Michael K:"Yes" Peter Robinson: "Of what sort? Sanctioning or perpetuating?" Michael K: "PO BOX 91 HP22 4RS" Peter Robinson: "Did X$X operate from that address?" Michael K: "No". Peter Robinson:"Why should people on the KLF list be interested in X$X?" Michael K: "It's none of their fucking business. X$X is dead. No products." Peter Robinson:"Ahem....why do you think people ARE interested then?" Michael K:"No products. Create your own." Peter Robinson:"Would Jimmy or Bill be interested in X$X?" Michael K:"Interested in killing it off, more like" Peter Robinson:"Why?" Michael K:"The K Foundation is dead. KLF is dead. The Jams are dead. 2K is dead. X$X...apparently not dead, apparently." Peter Robinson: "Why is that?" Michael K:"Someone else other than myself and the people who were once X$X are now being X$X, I think. Plus X$X's doing what it always did which is basically to fill in the cracks between the pavements." Peter Robinson:"Eh?" Michael K: "You know what I mean, Peter. No stepping on the cracks between the pavements...." Peter Robinson:"Presumably, though, you've been lurking on the list. If in the future, you see anything untrue or misinformed on the list, will you set it straight?" Michael K:" I am offline. Lurker....? Nope. And if it breaks when it bends, you better not put it in." Quite. Cynical list members, the above is all true. I don't have Michael's number and haven't asked for it; any more contact will be at his own discretion. Cheerio! Peter xxx # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryson Mills" Subject: Re: (klf) Date: 23 Aug 1998 01:04:12 PDT List-newbie urgently requests story-so-far or nearest offer. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: (klf) Michael K spotted Date: 23 Aug 1998 10:38:07 +0100 OFFICIAL X$X STATEMENT: Michael K is now known as "Sharon" and resides in Droitwich. Other Data: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "brendan" Subject: (klf) introducing myself Date: 23 Aug 1998 21:21:47 +1000 howdy all, um..i'm new to the list and introducing myself. my name is brendan, 26, male, live currently in melbourne australia. but i grew up in perth, western australia. i used to think i had a good collection of KLF vinyl but then i saw the discographys and got extremely unhappy :( i keep looking for bits to add but they're very hard to find in aust. i dont expect to post much, too busy with work and life, and australias pretty removed from KLF activity so i guess i'll mostly be relying on others to keep me informed. best wishes brendan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryson Mills" Subject: (klf) X$X Date: 23 Aug 1998 06:16:11 PDT Hmmm. Trying to piece this together without the aid of an FAQ is very difficult. I would take it that X$X is a "project" that may have something to do with the KLF in the past, that Michael K is a "person" who may have had something to do with X$X in the past and that Peter Robinson has left the DUP. How am I doing? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jerry Cornelius" Subject: (klf) Wascally Wabbits Date: 23 Aug 1998 06:27:13 -0700 OFFICIAL X$X RETRACTION: Droitwich has now been suspended following cloning incidents in which it is believed that Kingboy D, Rockman Rock and Bartman Brian (aka Michael K) were replicated. Check "Births Deaths and Marriages" this week in The Droitwich Sunday Sport. Now only 30p Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Doris Yeltsin" Subject: Re: (klf) Wascally Wabbits Date: 23 Aug 1998 06:39:35 -0700 Look...this is getting boring. Will all the list lurkers (if there are any) please give us a sign. Nothing special...just an essay on economics would do. Just so as the rest of us dont have to keep inventing new ways of checking our list-email without there actually being any really. The lap-dancer formerly known as Jerry Cornelius Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jill Drummond" Subject: Re:(klf) X$X Date: 23 Aug 1998 07:12:53 -0700 This is good work, Brys. You can write the X$X FAQ if y'want. Meanwhile, to help out a little, let me try to summarise the known info on X$X: X$X were a mop-topped Droitwich quartet who set the tempers of teenage girls blazing with their catchy pop hits such as "The Black Room" and "1997". They were formed in 1991 by Michael K, then an out-of-work CDTV-salesman with a tasty sideline in "media terrorism" from the Open University. In 1992 he teamed up with Bill Drummond and Jimmy Cauty to form X$X and together they destroyed the houses of parliament with their "voodoo adverts" which also attracted the attention art-establishment figures. In 1997, X$X released their final, farewell album, "X$X Split Up" which due to industrial action at the pressing plant was only released in Droitwich. At last time of writing, all three of the ex-X$X members were known to be working on a "T2K" project which of course is the same route as the N23 except on Sundays when you're best to take the N38 at Trafalgar Square --- The lap-dancer formerly known as Jerry Cornelius furthermore known as Doris Yeltsin Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jharek Carnelian" Subject: (klf) The X$X Story Date: 23 Aug 1998 07:33:40 -0700 Top One, Jill. Never has there been a more compelling account of X$X's meteoric descent into obscurity. Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Hamilton" Subject: (klf) STOP THIS X$X MADNESS!!!!! Date: 23 Aug 1998 08:06:33 PDT It is 1998 and the klf-list must stop this X$X madness. Legitimate questions about record-releases, font sizes and Gimpo's bookcase must now rule the waves once more. Peter Robinson has done what no other list-member could do. He got in touch with the Horse's mouth (erm...kind of) and stopped us beating around the bush with it (mmm...mixed metaphors-ED). Now it's official. X$X is dead and we must not step on the cracks in the pavament until X$X have filled them in. Meanwhile Michael K has nothing to do with the current X$X and X$X have nothing to do with Bill and Jimmy except...erm...when they did. I dont know about you, but that's pretty much cleared things up for me. Now what about that use of the Compacta font on those Portishead singles? Bit of a giveaway,eh? It's the KLF, innit? Colin, sulking. Those who know will know why. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hanoch Hagigi" Subject: (klf) jamm23@mailexcite.com Date: 24 Aug 1998 18:26:32 +0300 Who are you Jill Drummond? Who are you Doris Yeltsin? Who are you Jerry Cornelius? Who are you jamm23+AEA-mailexcite.com? Just take a look at this person E-mail address... +AF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8- HANOCH HAGIGI, Tel-Aviv, ISRAEL. Phone: 971-3-6882389 hagigi-m+AEA-inter.net.il 13306272+AEA-pager.mirabilis.com http://wwp.mirabilis.com/13306272 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jharek Carnelian" Subject: (klf) Joined Against X$X Madness Date: 23 Aug 1998 08:29:11 -0700 IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT JAXM (JOINED AGAINST X$X MADNESS) has been formed this day of 23rd August 1998.. Our mission: MUST DESTROY X$X. For more details, put 2 SAEs in an envelope, address it to JAXM, and bury it in your back garden. One of our underground representatives will contact you shortly. Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hanoch Hagigi" Subject: (klf) I AM NOT YOU.....well, possibly... Date: 23 Aug 1998 08:44:06 -0700 Homer Simpson says..."MUST DESTROY X$X.......Ooooh Lunchtime! On the internet nobody knows whose nose they're smelling. Who are you Hanoch Hagigi? By the way, if anyone wants to join in, just enter a fictitious name, address, identity, server, etc in your email account (if you want to appear to be in australia, just add".au" to the end of your "email address". This will be what appears in the message window. Unless you can be arsed looking up someone's e-anus every time you get an email, YOU COULD BE GETTING SATANIC BACKWARD MESSAGES AND NEVER EVEN NOTICE! That's why it best to meet up personally. Right....everybody back to my place this is getting FUCKING STOOPID Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryson Mills" Subject: (klf) JAXM saved my career Date: 23 Aug 1998 09:07:25 PDT I was obsessed by xsx until I joined JAXM. I used to spend day after day online waiting for something to happen at http://www.xdollarx.com at http://www.xsx.com at http://www.members.xoom.com/xsx/ and http://www.t2k.net/ Nothing ever did..but still there seemed a chance. Eventually I could no longer hold down my highly paid city finance director job, my wife left and took the kids. Boy, was I on skid row, I can tell you. Then I joined JAXM (Joined Against X$X Madness) !!!!!!! :) Now I drive a Toshiba RTZ 2030 with upholstered exhaust pipe and sip champagne cocktails from my wife's EDIT every weekend. Boy am I happy. Happier than I thought I could ever be. And now I've decided to share my secret of eternal happiness with ALL you list members out there who despair that there is NO END TO THIS X$X MADNESS!!! The good news is that there is.. I'm living proof and each day the JAXM office receives further testimonials such as this one from Glennys in Bangor.. "What is X$X? Is it the KLF? Who is Michael K?"-Glennys, Bangor Many more such testimonials are available for consultation at our Perth* office. Did you know that a JAXM membership can cost as little as $29.95 monthly. AND that replying EARLY to this email can put you in with the chance of WATCHING THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT BURN Ģ756m!! So dont delay....join JAXM today. NB: Subject to Status-You may lose your mind if you do not keep up payments to JAXM for a subscription upon which it is secured. * Perth (australia) office open daily 9.00-5.00pm except Jan-June and Jun-Dec ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bill Clinton" Subject: (klf) X$X ruined my marriage. Date: 23 Aug 1998 09:28:53 -0700 I know how Bryson feels. I too had everything before I started a 24-hour 7 days-a-week "Net-watch" on X$X activity at the Oval Office. Before I knew it, I didnt know whether I was coming or going...on holiday. The frustration led me to many questionable acts such as the instigation of WW3. But then my life turned around and all because of an unsolicited email from JAXM (Joined agianst X$X Madness). Now I just play golf and leave the business of pharmaceutical factories to the military aides I know i can rely on. So take my advice...it really doesnt matter if those pictures at http://www.btinternet.com/~pete.rob/ dont make any sense to you. Join JAXM and help the free world today! --- The lap-dancer formerly known as Jerry Cornelius furthermore known as Doris Yeltsin...erm and Jill Drummond....oh and Hanogi Hagigi...or something. Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jharek Carnelian" Subject: (klf) I stopped using Viagra when I joined JAXM Date: 23 Aug 1998 09:50:15 -0700 The absence of any substantial X$X reality substantially affected my ability to "get tit up" Then I discovered that a limited edition SUPER JAXM MEMBERSHIP got me hot just where it counted and withoout the aid of artificial stimulants and a truss. That's why i'm writing to you, friends, to let you know about our 30-day no obligation SUPER JAXM MEMBERSHIP. Included is a range of publications which can help steer you away from accessing X$X-related non-events on the internet in those early days when you feel that you'll never be able to stop hoping for a slight change of font or something just to brighten your day. These include "Woman's Weekly", one of the leading women's publications offering a weekly selection of romantic love-stories that relate to real-life tragedies such as the loss of a treasured item or the death of that strange-but-lovable fish. Combined with a 30-day supply of JAXM-enhanced multi-vitamins, you'll find that you're able to enjoy the non-X$X aspects of life such as playing a round of golf with Bill Clinton and before long, tests have shown that you may be able to watch UP TO 16 HOURS OF TELEVISION at a stretch without the slightest recourse to an email password. Everybody wants to live life to the full and now with our SUPER JAXM MEMBERSHIP you can do just that. But hurry....offer closes 23rd November 00 (Windows 3.1, Windows 95) and 23rd november 2000 (mac) We've also sent you an unsolicted junk-mail which appears to feature a personal hand-written message from our CEO. So what the FUCK are you waiting for? Hit the reply button NOW leaving full details of your credit or debit card NOW! JAXM is a division of Excessex Continental and reserves the right to change terms and conditions of this offer at the slightest whim. Credit cards will be debited in perpetuity by automated credit transfer. Resistance is Futile. You will be assimilated. Complies with the International Transnational Regulatory Bodies' recommendation for a standard internet-type kind of offer. Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John.C.S.Quel" Subject: (klf) What the X$X is going on?!? Date: 23 Aug 1998 17:42:02 +0100 Peter Robinson writes >Michael K:"Someone else other than myself and the people who were once X$X >are now being X$X, I think. Plus X$X's doing what it always did which is >basically to fill in the cracks between the pavements." There are some mentions of XSX on the net at the following URLs and I think that their members are attempting to get 'cracks' filled too... http://www.asiandream.com/ http://www.xsx.com/xsx/ http://www.concentric.net/~xcit/xsintrix.html No connection *there* surely?!? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryson Mills" Subject: Re: (klf) What the X$X is going on?!? Date: 23 Aug 1998 10:31:04 PDT John...like all good list-members, you must cease this activity at once!! I had a look at http://www.concentric.net/~xcit/xsintrix.html and the other sites you suggested, not because I'm already backsliding into a X$X-centric world-cosmology but merely to look at the kind of depraved, vague connections you appear to be drawing between these sites and the KLF discography. SHAME ON YOU! THIS IS X$X MADNESS AT ITS MOST POTENT AND ALL-ENCOMPASSING. John...I love you. And Jerry Cornelius loves you. Jill Drummond wants to take you by the hand and lead you to a non-X$X paradise beyond your wildest wish-lists. We ALL love you and care for you. But you're sick, John. You're in denial of this sickness, this evil in your heart. But secretly hoping that, one day, you'll be FREE OF THIS X$X MADNESS!!!! In the book to which myself and my fellow elders of the FFXM (Freedom from X$X Madness) look for guidance, there is written a passage which seems to me to apply to your situation: "For quasi-truthfully I say to thee and to all WoMan, thou must be born again of the spirit. Thy heart must be consumed by shopping-mall lust and consume-consume-consume. Sale Now On. Open Bank Holiday Monday." As a sign of our love at the FFXM for you, John, I'm offering you a once-in-a-fortnight SPECIAL OFFER. A chance to own your own personal a deer-bound copy "BIBLE OF THE GREATER WISDOM ...AND TING". For only $399.95 (plus shipping and sales taxes) you can have a source of wisdom to see you through from X$X-HELL to HOME SHOPPING CHANNEL NIRVANA. Act within ten minutes and we'll also send you a CD-Rom disk packed with pornography which will ease your transition from no-products into this new world of instant-gratification. Every thing your heart desires....wrapped! And it's so-oo-oo easy to order! Just enter the number of your swiss bank account in the form provided on the next screen and we'll debit you for seven copies with the eighth coming ABSOLUTELY FREE! With XMAS just around the corner, this is a great way to recruit family members, friends and relatives and also help us to build an FFXM church in your area just as soon as we can. ACT NOW! NOW! ACT! NOW NOW!NOW! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryson Mills" Subject: (klf) Erm....Help....excuse me....erm HEYULP!...HEEEEELLLLLP! Date: 23 Aug 1998 10:49:56 PDT I've been taken over by super-beings who have announced that they will use me for the quote "Advancement of Kreation" I am theirs. The voices. Yes...I hear you. I will OBEY! Repeat after me "MUST DESTROY X$X MUST DESTROY X$X MUST DESTROY X$X MUST DESTROY X$X MUST DESTROY X$X" PS-I know it is right. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Hamilton" Subject: (klf) MUST DESTROY X$X Date: 23 Aug 1998 11:31:31 PDT coincidentally, I kind of have been sharing Bryson's experioence (even though he's joking), as I was just saying to John Quel. Voices (increwasingly with the voice of Homer Simpson, at jamm's suggestion) telling me to give up my life, carrer, job etc and join the final battle against the forces of X$X. I dont know. Yesterday it all seemed so ....simple, really. Anyway, I have sourced (just this second) someone with a copy of KLF-The Komplete Kompilation on VHS. Usual awful quality as we give it an initial butcher's But about 2-3 hours of stuff before all this X$X/KF/2K/MAD/X$X madness started. Anybody got a DVD-RAM? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "SG" Subject: RE:Subject: (klf) For those in London... Date: 23 Aug 1998 19:46:08 +0100 >> ... I just saw a copy of 1987 in Reckless Records in Upper St, Islington. >> ?35.00 (up on the wall, naturally). I assume it's not a boot, but who >>knows? I have seen this record also, it is the Bootleg version. It has red print on a whit cover. The original is black writing on a white cover. This a repress tha came o= ut about a few years ago. It was only =A310-=A315 when it came out. =A335 is a complete = rip-off for a bootleg copy. SG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stuart Young" Subject: Re: (klf) KLF in Road Rocket mag (Autumn 1991) Date: 23 Aug 1998 21:20:05 +0000 First off, nice article Nick, what a find! > > > WANTED: ICE-CREAM VAN > > > 1960S TYPE WITH ROCKET BACK LIGHTS > > > CONTACT KLF COMMUNICATIONS > > > PO BOX 283, HP22 5BW > > > > Obviously for J&A... > > Having said this, it's a bit peculiar that they needed to advertise when > the ice cream van they ended up using was parked outside their Brixton > offices, fully operational, for years. are you sure? I thought the one that was parked outside was the one that was used in the Liverpool Festival of Comedy (June 23rd 1991) this advert is from after that. Maybe the owner was happy for it to be borrowed for a summers day, but not to give it up completely for a round of promo appearances at christmas. Stuey .. . . . . Stuart Andrew Young will emigrate to New Zealand on September the twelth 1998 home page and CV http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ .. . . . . stuey@easynet.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stuart Young" Subject: Re: (klf) JAXM saved my career Date: 23 Aug 1998 21:20:05 +0000 > I was obsessed by xsx until I joined JAXM. > I used to spend day after day online waiting for something to happen at > http://www.xdollarx.com > at http://www.xsx.com > at http://www.members.xoom.com/xsx/ > and http://www.t2k.net/ > > Nothing ever did..but still there seemed a chance. dear Bryson, you wouldn't have had this problem if only you'd registered those addresses with the free and easy URL-Minder service, which emails you when ever there's been a change at the website of your choice. Top service means you dont have to check your bookmarks every day. dear Jerry and his Jamm23 identities I hope we're not going to get an outburst like that every 23rd of the month? Stop confusing the newbies and get on with assembling the X$X faq. > can you possibly tell me that it isn't the work of a man with rather > a lot of time on his hands? mmmmm .. . . . . Stuart Andrew Young will emigrate to New Zealand on September the twelth 1998 home page and CV http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ .. . . . . stuey@easynet.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John.C.S.Quel" Subject: Re: (klf) What the X$X is going on?!? Date: 23 Aug 1998 21:33:52 +0100 Bryson Mills writes >Sale Now On. Open Bank Holiday Monday Presumably the upcoming end of August Bank Holiday Monday is applicable? >As a sign of our love at the FFXM for you, John, I'm offering you a >once-in-a-fortnight SPECIAL OFFER. >A chance to own your own personal a deer-bound copy "BIBLE OF THE >GREATER WISDOM ...AND TING". Oh, deer... er, dear! >Act within ten minutes and we'll also send you a CD-Rom disk packed with >pornography Surely not the famed and fabled X$X CD-Rom? I`d rather be in receipt of an actual copy to see that it exists before parting with any hard earned moolah. So what`s the connection between the FFXM, JAXM and X$X or is there a disconnection between all three alleged entities? Enquiring minds don`t particularly want to know... However, how much of the info provided in the Michael K letters can be verified? Can somebody confirm or deny the X-ACT Records 'Lead-Drilled Sitting Ducks' release by X$X for instance? Similarly the poster campaign with the X in X$X representing the Scottish flag and the petrol corporation connections (Exxon = eX$Xon maybe?!?) Anyone got any contacts at ZTT to see if they actually did receive a copy of 'The Black Room' and if they *did* then how did Michael K know about this? I`ve heard from someone who knows members of ENT that they were given copies of some collaboration between them and B&J (dunno if this is the 3AM Eternal track or The Black Album as 'payment' and they flogged them to record dealers, etc... It would be good if someone else could confirm this story if possible. The korrespondence also mentions three versions: xact3cd xact3c xactcrom3 and claims that the CD ROM is Dutch only and "*some* copies only contain the words 'Don`t buy The Black Room". BTW anyone on the mailing list live in Belfast who can check out what`s now at the exact X-ACT address? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Wilkinson" Subject: Re: (klf) "Only A Madman Would Claim That I Am Michael K" - Robinson, 1998 Date: 23 Aug 1998 01:12:31 +0100 Well thats about as clear as mud then. Thanks Pete. I may just unsubscribe for a while and come back in 3 months when the next ridiculous time waste begins. No offence Pete, I realise you are trying your best to keep you head above all the general acusations and crap, but it seems that this has nothing at all to do with the KLF, and the t2k site is about as relevant, except that M/A/D knows Gimpo, who knows the KLF. My cat knows me, who met M/A/D once in the Vault, who is on this list etc etc but we don't talk about my cat do we? Would love to se either and explanation, or the end of this stupid thread and talk about these chillout remixes or something instead (someone please sample some clips and post them somewhere on the net thanks or better still mpeg them) Dan Dull Dull Dull Dull........... >Quite. > >Cynical list members, the above is all true. I don't have Michael's number >and haven't asked for it; any more contact will be at his own discretion. > >Cheerio! > > >Peter >xxx # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicola Battista Subject: (klf) Re: klf-digest V2 #129 Date: 23 Aug 1998 03:14:17 +0200 wow. I go out of town for a couple weeks and when I come back I find whole KLF digests full of X$X shite. Some folks really have nothing to do... bye, Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis" Subject: (klf) KLF- Michael K- X$X Date: 24 Aug 1998 01:25:16 +0300 Hi Pete, ok, if we follow logic, you're not Micheael K. Of course, even if you were= lying -I'm not saying that you are- you'd still deny that you're him...= for some reason. But, after reading your email, it seems that we HAVE to accept= contradictions? K says KLF have no associatio nwith X$X and then contraicts himself, as he= does when he says that X$X is dead. Likewise about his own involvement in= the X$X thing. So, what is the X$X? WHY did he contact you? How did he= know abot the debate on the list?? ??? Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies... Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', and his 'Fleria'. He has won... Obsessions : The KLF, Hip-hop, Cinema, 'Fleria', Comics Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis" Subject: (klf) 4 years- everyone forget Date: 24 Aug 1998 01:31:58 +0300 23/8/1994 23/8/1998 One of the most important days in K Foundation's and why not the KLF's= days. Completely forgotten by you guyz. Also. A big middle finger to the one (it must be one) person who keeps= appearing with different aliases on the list. It is quite weird that this week about 7-8 people have made their 'debuts'= on the list. You suck! Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies... Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', and his 'Fleria'. He has won... Obsessions : The KLF, Hip-hop, Cinema, 'Fleria', Comics Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis" Subject: Re: (klf) jamm23@mailexcite.com Date: 24 Aug 1998 01:37:06 +0300 Who are you?? Are you Jill aka Jerry aka Jharek aka Bill Clinton (aka Bryson????)? Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies... Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', and his 'Fleria'. He has won... Obsessions : The KLF, Hip-hop, Cinema, 'Fleria', Comics Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Britain P. Woodman Subject: Re: (klf) jamm23@mailexcite.com is... Date: 23 Aug 1998 18:47:17 -0400 (EDT) Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis is great with fries and an ice cold soda! > Subject: Re: (klf) jamm23@mailexcite.com > > Who are you?? > Are you Jill aka Jerry aka Jharek aka Bill Clinton (aka Bryson????)? He's darn near anybody. Spoofing an e-mail address is easy as hell. Jamm23 could well be the same person posting under multiple names, or it could be several people pretending to be him. The headers are frequently a clue. I'd look them over again but I deleted them, just like all the other spam. Britain. -- Britain P. Woodman - britain@cardhouse.com - www.nnaf.net/~bpw Those of us that use the Internet Correctly to Write Our Books, get "DAMN FREAKING POWER!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis" Subject: (klf) Boredman Date: 24 Aug 1998 02:01:33 +0300 Every time i go on the #klf channel on irc there is a topic set by= Boredman. Is he on the list? Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies... Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', and his 'Fleria'. He has won... Obsessions : The KLF, Hip-hop, Cinema, 'Fleria', Comics Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hanoch Hagigi" Subject: Re: (klf) Boredman Date: 25 Aug 1998 02:13:57 +0300 >Every time i go on the #klf channel on irc there is a topic set by Boredman. Is he on the list? > Yes he is. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Ashkenazi Subject: Re: (klf) Boredman Date: 24 Aug 1998 02:11:41 +0300 Hi Bizzzare and all, Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis wrote: > Every time i go on the #klf channel on irc there is a topic set by Boredman. Is he on the list? I've got a feeling that he is, dont know why tho? ;) Btw: You are all welcome to join the #KLF channel at DALnet, i'm there right... about... now! Regards, David A. -- __________________________________ David Ashkenazi, Tel-Aviv, Israel. IRC nickname: "Boredman". Phone: 971-3-6875091 adavid@inter.net.il ICQ: 13255725 13255725@pager.mirabilis.com http://www.mirabilis.com/13255725 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: Re: (klf) 4 years- everyone forget Date: 24 Aug 1998 00:03:38 +0100 At 01:31 24.8.1998 +0300, you wrote: >23/8/1994 >23/8/1998 >One of the most important days in K Foundation's and why not the KLF's days. >Completely forgotten by you guyz. naaah. 23/8 is even more important for me. it's my friggin birthday :) 27th bday this time around. cheers, have a beer or something. Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: halcyon@halcyonrecordings.com (michael halcyon) Subject: (klf) are you ambient?halcyonrecordings looking for ambient artists. Date: 23 Aug 1998 21:34:45 -0400 (EDT) hello.. if your producing tracks in the realm of early klf/orb and would like to be featured on comps along side respected artists, please email me for more info.. cheers.. michael halcyon halcyon recordings p.o.box 230039 boston, ma 02123 www.halcyonrecordings.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) KLF- Michael K- X$X Date: 24 Aug 1998 11:57:12 +0100 (BST) Look, I'm really bored of this thread. I started "the" KLF list X$X years ago, so I've been here longer than anyone (accidental deletion aside). Pete Robinson is not Michael K cos I've known him for X$X + 2 years, and I recognise his humour and his style of writing. Do you trust *me*? Culf. > ok, if we follow logic, you're not Micheael K. Of course, even if you were lying -I'm not saying that you are- you'd still deny that you're him... for some reason. > > But, after reading your email, it seems that we HAVE to accept contradictions? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryson Mills" Subject: Re: (klf) Only a Madman would think That I'm Michael K Date: 24 Aug 1998 05:39:58 PDT Dan, I wholeheartedly agree with what you're saying. I think. I dont yet have an opinion on X$X/KLF theories. People on the list have taken quite a lot of trouble to send me stuff on how this thing comes to be involved with KLF etc and it's interesting. But I'm not interested in it!! (yet..) I came on to talk/trade KLF mixes and maybe get me hands on some stuff. I havent seen a single thread yet except about "Chill Out" remixes but quite honestly, I took that with a pinch of salt. I can understand that after you get hold of pretty much every official KLF/JAMS mix, then things like "K Cera Cera" and onward to "The Black Room" and "1997" (which probably dont exist, if you take Michael K's word for it in that "interview", which I trust did happen since it's Peterob who says so) may become desirable. But frankly, NOT YET is my position. I did have a lot of fun over the weekend with the "Joined against X$X Madness" thread that sprang up. That was a hoot. I think there's a general agreement fronm peeps who have emailed me off-list that when nothin much is happening with Drummond & Cauty , which is pretty much all the time, people reach for their X$X, Gimpo, Bad Wisdom, Compacta Font :) But anyone who's been on other lists knows that boredom usually produces flame wars, idle chatter, swearing, and a general waste of download time. I wouldnt say that anything I've seen so far on this list even vaguely qualifies along those lines. An interest in KLF will probably sit nicely alongside an interest in "Culture jamming" ( aterm I've just picked up from the JAMM website which looks very promising) and if you're not interested in that, then you're only seeing half of what the KLF is about anyway. In that respect, I'm becoming interested in the likes of X$X. (BUT NOT JUST YET!) So, like, IT"S ALL GOOD, people, but maybe a little more records-talk, please. If everyone here has already got everything, then I'm sorry. The only thing I've got which any of you should be interested in is an "apparently" original 1987 vinyl album (b/w sleeve-all the "correct details etc) complete with "JAMS-product catalogue" insert. Obviously I cant be sure it isnt a facsimile bootleg but I'm reasonably sure it's the real thing. I was going to offer it for trade etc but now I'm not so keen to get rid of it. I'm hoping I can find someone in the South East (I'm in Cambridge) who sells bootlegs or whatever, as I'm not too keen on sending cash to somebody who just offers you a Website as a sign of their existence. But the list will know a lot more about that. Who are the heroes and villains of trading and buying KLF stuff? And finally, I'm not on the list under another name. I have one email address to go with my one ass. As for all of you, I 'm not quite sure. There's a lot of jiggery and pokery. At least jamm23 is being obvious!! PS- I have to mention that one of the things I posted (with slight editing) to the list yesterday was sent to me by Jamm23. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryson Mills" Subject: Re: (klf) JAXM saved my career Date: 24 Aug 1998 05:42:49 PDT Nah...I didnt even write that one. Jamm23 asked me to post it to the list yesterday. Perhaps, rather hastily, I complied. It was good fun but I'm making it absolutely clear that I'm not anyone else except just what you get when you hit reply to this message. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lindgren" Subject: (klf) Re:KLF and new CD (?)+ KLF played Date: 24 Aug 1998 05:43:11 PDT Hello everybody, YES, Iīm back from Zakynthos ( what a great place!!!), but I got one question for you englishmen on the list: Does EVERY englishman own at least one football sweater? I`ve never seen so many english football tshirts in one week, all worn by english guys... ANyway, KLF got played down there, as 3 am was on me and my pals `ZAKUNTHOS 98` tape, which was played all the time on the beach and on parties. Then, during the days when we tried to cure our hangovers we didn`t want to listen to music, so I played `CHILL OUT` & `SPACE` instead. Our female neighbours didn`t like it and told us to turn it off, but then I said it was tape from Greece which I had found in the hotel wardrobe, then they got interested: "Whow so this is traditonal Greecemusic !" - " OH YES it is!!!" I said and then they also had a listen!! Panayiotis; what do you say, does chill out sound like traditional Greece music? KLF played again, there was a big " Schoolstartkickoffdisco "-thing in my town last thursday, I asked the DJ to play KLF and he played A:WTIL and I borrowed the mic and rapped the lyric. VERY NICE!! KLF was nearly ;) played again, as I was asked to play a 30 min set at a public party on the friday, of course I would`ve played KLF, at least LTTT. But I had a VERY bad hangover from the day before, so I couldn`t make it :( This was posted by Norman Murray: >KLF what time is love (pure trance original) is on the limited edition>version of the pete tong summer 98 essential selection. Includes 12>Ibiza classics mixed by paul oakenfold which is where wtil appears. Where can I get this? I want to have it!!! Is there any information about it somewhere on the web? Someone has gotta` know something! I mailed N Murray to ask these questions but he didNīt reply. Thankful for answer. - david ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryson Mills" Subject: Re: (klf) KLF- Michael K- X$X Date: 24 Aug 1998 05:46:35 PDT I agree. Peter Robinson's style is distinctive. Plus he has his web site and I dont think anyone else is going to pretend they wrote all of his booklets!! The Michael K is enigmatic, especially for me as I'm less that a week on the list but I would assume that if he interviewed him before (Ihavent seen such things yet) then he can do it again. OFFICIAL X$X STATEMENT: I am Bryson Mills. That's what my mummy called me. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lars Nellemann Subject: Re: (klf) Chill out remixes Date: 24 Aug 1998 08:17:03 +0200 >Are they good? Different from 'our' chill out? >Keep us informed! I think they're very professionally made and quite good, the description from the Discography is precise: [samples from Chill Out and Space plus completely new ones including a report about illegal acid house parties. The two versions differ only slightly. Reportedly a Bill-Jimmy-Alex Paterson collaboration.] >>I recently have aquired four KLF Tracks called >> >>Chill Out 2 Part 1 and part 2 (remix) >>Chill Out 3 Part 1 and part 2 (remix) >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Elfving Subject: (klf) for sale or trade (long list) Date: 24 Aug 1998 18:47:12 +0200 It's time we get some decent postings on this list again. M/A/D and Mr Parish, you twats, it's YOU who are behind this damn X$X blurb, isn't it? Start your own list so that we can get on with discussing things Jams here, how can we do that when we receive 100 nonsense mails every day? =20 Someone requested klf stuff for sale, I still have the items as follows: ***FOR SALE OR TRADE*** WTIL 7" KLF004 UK 1990 release, black sleeve w blue letters =20 WTIL 7" COMA7011 Scandinavian 90 release, pink sleeve, incl 89 Primal =20 WTIL 12" COMA127011 as the 7" above but with 4 mixes J&A 7" KLF99 UK =20 J&A 7" COMA7023 Scandinvian release + win a week in london competition J&A CS US release cassette single + Stadium House insert =20 1987 What The Fuck's Going On, bootleg LP, red sleeve, JAMSLP1=20 K Cera Cera original 1 track cassette single (still sealed) Lori & The Chameleons - Touch 7" UK 1979 release w/ Drummond (no p/s) Brilliant - Somebody 12" GER 4 track=20 Brilliant - Man's World 7" GER =20 Brilliant - Kiss The Lips Of Life LP US cut-out but still sealed=20 Sunsonic - Roll My Body ltd 12" incl Cauty's Gris Gris remix =20 SFX - Lemmings 12" UK =20 1300 Drums - Ooh Aah Cantona CD5 UK 5 mixes DYND5 =20 various - 6 In The Mix CD incl LTTT 7"mix + Mental Cube/FSOL's "Q" etc=20 KALA001 Draculas Daughter 7" =20 KALA002 The Fuckers 7" =20 KALA003 Gimpo 7" =20 KALA004 The Daytonas 7" =20 Downtown 12" JAMS27T UK original (VG- cond) =20 Non-KLF related for sale or trade: Orb - Perpetual Dawn 7" UK original 1991 release Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds CD UK BLRC98 cassette incl Ambient mix Orb - Space/Ultraworld demos bootleg cd (early versions of System 7 trax) Art Of Noise - Art Of Love CS UK CHICS23 (Youth/Orb mix) Bananarama - Only your Love 12" UK (Youth/Thrash mix) Spectre - Covert Dub CD5 UK 6 tracks incl Orb mix Fortran 5 - Crazy Earth 7" UK promo Mute113r with unreleased radio edits + loads of other stuff, Orbital, Shamen, FSOL, Underworld etc, please send= wants ***WANTED*** >>> I will trade or pay cash for the items as follows:=20 KLF008R Last Train To Trancentral - pure trance 12" KLF008T The White Room - (black/purple) sleeve & labels=20 KLF008T E-Train To Trancentral - (turqoise/black) sleeve & labels KLF008T E-Train To Trancentral - (black/yellow) sleeve KLF10R Kylie Said - 12" double pack with KLFPROMO KLF010CD Kylie Said - CD single D2001 I Gotta CD promo 7" KLF3GG Gary In The Tardis promo 7" JAMS23 All You Need 12" 1-sided white label JAMSLP1 1987 LP with original merchandise insert (klf chopper =A323,000= etc) JAMSLP4 What Time Is Love LP KCC1 K Cera Cera CD single If anyone's interested, email me privately @ Robert.Elfving.6905@student.uu.se thanks, Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) 4 years- everyone forget Date: 24 Aug 1998 16:59:09 +0100 (BST) On Sun 23 Aug, Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis wrote: > > 23/8/1994 > 23/8/1998 > > One of the most important days in K Foundation's and why not the KLF's > days. Completely forgotten by you guyz. I remembered. But I was off on holiday for the weekend. Coming back to so many posts about X$X was a waste of time. Can we please now accept what have been established as facts, and talk about something else? If you still have some queries about X$X, start your own mailing list and talk about it there. Stuart. -- I am X$X. No, really, I am. Really. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lefler, Luke" Subject: RE: (klf) Wascally Wabbits Date: 24 Aug 1998 12:38:12 -0700 > From: Doris Yeltsin[SMTP:jamm23@mailexcite.com] > > Look...this is getting boring. > Will all the list lurkers (if there are any) please give us a sign. > "And the High Chapperal said unto him: Leave my presence and seek ye the horizon and the sign shall come unto you, and ye shall seek no more." You know the rest. > The lap-dancer formerly known as Jerry Cornelius > > So... how much for a lap dance? I'll be in the UK in 15 months -- we'll > do plastic nude martinis. > "Should I care about the chances I've blown?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Reed, Mark" Subject: RE: (klf) KLF in Road Rocket mag (Autumn 1991) Date: 24 Aug 1998 13:05:37 -0000 At the risk of being pernickety, I feel I must drag some of the glory for the find away from Nick. I bought this magazine years ago, and lent it to Nick who kindly offered to transcribe it and post the accompanying pictures up on the web for all to use. I'm too lazy to get this organised myself! Anyway, if anyone wants to make me an offer for this, dare I say, unique magazine then feel free to drop me a line with an offer. Ta Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Stuart Young [SMTP:stuey@mail.easynet.co.uk] > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 1998 9:20 PM > To: klf@xmission.com > Subject: Re: (klf) KLF in Road Rocket mag (Autumn 1991) > > > *** Warning : this message originates from the Internet *** > > > First off, nice article Nick, what a find! > > > > > WANTED: ICE-CREAM VAN > > > > 1960S TYPE WITH ROCKET BACK LIGHTS > > This message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer. 'Internet communications are not secure. The Royal Bank does not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent.' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Hopkins Subject: Re: (klf) TWROST discs are arriving week of Aug. 3-7 Date: 25 Aug 1998 14:31:28 +0100 erm.... is there any news on TWROST and its shipping date? And did I miss the results of the vote? ...well it's better that this X$X shite. Meadowwolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lindgren" Subject: (klf) Select ? Date: 25 Aug 1998 06:35:33 PDT Hello everybody, yesterday I found an article about KLF from Select, June 92`, it was printed out from the web, sadly half of the pages were torn so I couldn`t read it. The adress from where it was printed does not exist anymore. So does anybody know where on the web I can find: "Who killed the KLF ?" by William Shaw, Select magazine, June 92`. Also I wonder how many of you would be interested in buying a copy of: Energy DJs in the house cd ( incl Lenny Dees remix of "Build a fire") or KLF vs ENT, 3 a.m. eternal 7" as I can get my hands on a couple of each, in mint condition. - david ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Reed, Mark" Subject: (klf) Regarding Mike Dutton Date: 25 Aug 1998 16:49:44 -0000 Well, it's been five months since I first sent my cash to Mike Dutton for the 'Waiting' and 'TWROST' CDs. And I, and many others, have heard nothing from him. He ain't answering his telephone, and no-one lives near enough to go round to his house and persuade him to honour his commitments. He's shown his true colours again and shown himself to be the little crook that he is. I think we can now safely give up on seeing our goods from him, so this leaves us with two options, as I see it - 1 - Legal action. Does anyone know if there is any kind of legal action we can take against him. As much to ensure he doesn't get up to his sordid scams again in the future, as to get our money back. Or/And 2 -Anyone who did receive the CD's and has access to the relevant equipment, could produce copies of the CD's and pass them to those who have been ripped off at cost. Thoughts? Comments? Mark P.S. Due to fascist work regulations, I am shortly going to be unsubscribing from the list, but will be subscribing to the digest, so if anyone doesn't get a reply from me straightaway, rest assured I'll get back to you eventually. This message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer. 'Internet communications are not secure. The Royal Bank does not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent.' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Poirier Subject: RE: (klf) Regarding Mike Dutton Date: 25 Aug 1998 12:30:30 -0400 1) It's pretty hard to take legal action against someone who has failed to produce the promised illegal goods. It's like trying to sue your drug dealer. 2) I'd do it, but I don't have the CDs. :( dave poirier dave@eyeonline.com > Well, it's been five months since I first sent my cash to Mike Dutton > for the 'Waiting' and 'TWROST' CDs. And I, and many others, have heard > nothing from him. > > I think we can now safely give up on seeing our goods from > him, so this > leaves us with two options, as I see it - > > 1 - Legal action. Does anyone know if there is any kind of > legal action > we can take against him. As much to ensure he doesn't get up to his > sordid scams again in the future, as to get our money back. > > Or/And > > 2 -Anyone who did receive the CD's and has access to the relevant > equipment, could produce copies of the CD's and pass them to those who > have been ripped off at cost. > > Mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Ashkenazi Subject: (klf) FS/FT: Date: 26 Aug 1998 12:31:12 +0300 Hi, I have the following item for sale or trade: 12": 1991 GE (Blow Up/Intercord; INT 125.799) A Side: 1. 6:54 3 a.m. Eternal (wayward dub version) B Side: 1. 4:34 3 a.m. Eternal (rankin' club version) B Side: 2. 5:48 3 a.m. Eternal (klonk blip every trip) ["The Moody Boys Selection"] Regards, David A. -- __________________________________ David Ashkenazi, Tel-Aviv, Israel. IRC nickname: "Boredman". Phone: 971-3-6875091 adavid@inter.net.il ICQ: 13255725 13255725@pager.mirabilis.com http://www.mirabilis.com/13255725 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis" Subject: (klf) 3am in greek Club Date: 26 Aug 1998 16:21:52 +0300 Hadn't heard ANY KLF songs at least since 1992 in Greece until yesterday.= Theyt played 3am amongst... Vanialla Ice, Nomad, Technotronic and various= other... up-to-date artists. Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies... Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', and his 'Fleria'. He has won... Obsessions : The KLF, Hip-hop, Cinema, 'Fleria', Comics Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lindgren" Subject: (klf) re:select ? Date: 26 Aug 1998 07:41:58 PDT Hello everybody, Thanks for all the replies on the qusetion if you`d be interested in buying KLFvsENT 7" or the cdcomp. with L Dee`s remix of Build a fire. I`ll let you know the price when I`m ready to sell/trade them,later this autumn ( the price depends on how many I`m buying, thats why I mailed the list yesterday). Anyone seen the article I asked about, on the web? ("Who killed the KLF?, from Select June 92`) - david ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (klf) re:select ? Date: 26 Aug 1998 12:28:21 EDT > Anyone seen the article I asked about, on the web? > ("Who killed the KLF?, from Select June 92`) Available at Mancentral: http://quality.gconnect.com/cgi- bin/nicetxt?site=MANCENTRAL&title=+&file=KLF/Press/9207sel1.txt or http://quality.gconnect.com/KLF/ -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik Subject: (klf) apologies Date: 27 Aug 1998 13:32:42 +0200 (MET DST) sorry to all the people who expect mail from me my pc is broken and it will take me a few more days to fix it I have tamorary access to email, but probably not for long and now BACK ON TOPIC: I recentely bought a Doctor Who videotape from BBC video (Silver Nemesis-Director's Cut), and it had a 'making-of' documentary, which used Doctorin' The Tardis for the opening and closing titles. I think nobody mentioned this here before. Anyway, it was credited to TVT Records for some strange reason. "Doctorin' The Tardis by TVT Records". Oh well. :-) erik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gregor Menasian Subject: DTT use in documentary - was Re: (klf) apologies Date: 27 Aug 1998 08:52:48 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, erik wrote: [...] > and now BACK ON TOPIC: > > I recentely bought a Doctor Who videotape from BBC video > (Silver Nemesis-Director's Cut), and it had a 'making-of' > documentary, which used Doctorin' The Tardis for the opening > and closing titles. I think nobody mentioned this here before. > Anyway, it was credited to TVT Records for some strange reason. > "Doctorin' The Tardis by TVT Records". Oh well. My local TV station made that documentary, and I even saw it's television premiere! So here's the story behind the Silver Nemesis documentary: When I lived in New Jersey, we had a local, super-low budget PBS station New Jersey Network. Even though they had 4 channels (23, 50, 52, and 58) they still didn't manage to cover the entire (tiny) state because each transmitter had really low broadcast power - their signal was during T-storms because their transmission antenna was rather unstable... They showed lots of outdated educational films, and local stuff (including the great Uncle Floyd comedy show), but the one big thing they showed was Doctor Who. Somehow they got a real budget to do the "Making of Doctor Who" documentary, probably because it was the most popular show they ran (other than Uncle Floyd). So the local TV folks actually got to go to England and ask questions while Silver Nemesis was being filmed - what a surprise! For a few weeks before they first showed it, they ran a trailer for it, with narration that went something like "Your local NJN crew if flying to jolly old England to bring you a television first - a rare behind the scenes look at the making of our viewers' favorite science fiction show, Doctor Who!" Well, when they got back from England, the editing and post-production were done in New Jersey. Since the people at the station were Dr Who fans, one of them probably had the DTT single, and had the bright idea to use it for the credits. So they probably convinced the station to pay the $ to license DTT from the record company, which was TVT in the US. DTT was probably credited to TVT records instead of The Timelords because whoever did the licensing was used to licensing stock background music, for which just the soundtrack company is credited. (Each company usually has mediochre keyboardists who aren't famous, so the company name is more marketable than the artist's name, especially to TV studios). The Dr Who documentary was easily the most professional looking thing that NJN ever did, and we were all surprised by it's leap in quality from their usual stuff. (Uncle Floyd was very low-budget, but it was also really funny, but even it eventually got cancelled due to a lack of funding :( DTT actually got a significant amount of radio play in my area when it was first released as a CD3, but I could never find a music store that had it back then :( And now back to your regularly scheduled X$X bickering... -Gregor Menasian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis" Subject: (klf) 2K- FTM Date: 28 Aug 1998 00:11:42 +0300 Sorry if it's mentioned before, but i actually have FTM in 2 versions. One= has a Version K, and the other (on vinyl) has a Version P- Royal Oak mix.= Is it a rarity??? Anyway, neither of them is for sale or trade. Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies... Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', and his 'Fleria'. He has won... Obsessions : The KLF, Hip-hop, Cinema, 'Fleria', Comics Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis" Subject: (klf) What???? Date: 28 Aug 1998 00:24:08 +0300 Bizarre stuff. i sent the message about 2k to the list, and i got this= reply: Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to: MICHAEL KENNEDY (Mailbox or Conference is full.) What?????? Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies... Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', and his 'Fleria'. He has won... Obsessions : The KLF, Hip-hop, Cinema, 'Fleria', Comics Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alex Janzer Subject: (klf) OK Mag - Operation mindfucK - JAMM Online Magazine Date: 29 Aug 1998 20:23:36 +0200 Finally it's here: JAMM online magazine "Operation mindfucK" a.k.a. OK Mag. It's up and running at http://members.xoom.com/okmag/ OK Mag features: 1) Stranger Tractor 2) Armageddon 3) Extreme Technology 4) The Horrible Truth 5) Thee 5 Spicy Elements ov Eris 6) Illuminatus! 7) (extremely funny) Jokes 8) ZEN 9) Quiz 0) The Void Don't forget to sign the guestbook! Regards, Aluminum Bavariaty # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alex Janzer Subject: (klf) OK Mag - Operation mindfucK -JAMM Online Magazine Date: 29 Aug 1998 20:35:58 +0200 Finally it's here: JAMM online magazine "Operation mindfucK" a.k.a. OK Mag. It's up and running at http://members.xoom.com/okmag/ OK Mag features: 1) Stranger Tractor 2) Armageddon 3) Extreme Technology 4) The Horrible Truth 5) Thee 5 Spicy Elements ov Eris 6) Illuminatus! 7) (extremely funny) Jokes 8) ZEN 9) Quiz 0) The Void Don't forget to sign the guestbook! Regards, Aluminum Bavariaty # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John.C.S.Quel" Subject: Re: (klf) Regarding Mike Dutton Date: 29 Aug 1998 11:32:51 +0100 "Reed, Mark" writes >Well, it's been five months since I first sent my cash to Mike Dutton >for the 'Waiting' and 'TWROST' CDs. And I, and many others, have heard >nothing from him. Same here... after sending off a cheque on the 23/3/98. Has *ANYONE* received *anything* in recent times that actually indicates that he`s attempting to work thru a backlog of orders or summat? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John.C.S.Quel" Subject: (klf) The JAMS: 20 Greatest Hits EP Date: 29 Aug 1998 11:40:32 +0100 I recently contacted a record shop in Swansea that I frequent occasionally as I stumbled across their webpage that mentioned that they had some copies of the Fierce records back catalogue. According to the KLF FAQ http://www.lysator.liu.se/~johol/KLF/discography.html The JAMS: 20 Greatest Hits EP remix bootleg [5 Jan 1988] 12"WL: 1988 UK (Fierce FRIGHT 013) 4:00 Borderline 2:50 All U Need Is Love 2:40 B.F.B [9000 copies] Note: Also known as "Big Fat 45" and "We're The J.A.M.S.!". Recorded by Steve Gregory and Haggis of Fierce Records. They said that they appear to have sold out of the JAMMS record at this time, but did have several copies, and had thought that at least one remained. If it surfaces when they next stocktake they are going to e-mail me. The Fierce JAMMS record sells for 20+ Has anyone actually heard this? Maybe I should ask them if they`ve got The White Room CDR or any XSX stuff next? ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick Subject: Re: (klf) KLF in Road Rocket mag (Autumn 1991) Date: 30 Aug 1998 19:16:49 +0100 (BST) On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > WANTED: ICE-CREAM VAN > > > 1960S TYPE WITH ROCKET BACK LIGHTS > > > CONTACT KLF COMMUNICATIONS > > > PO BOX 283, HP22 5BW > Having said this, it's a bit peculiar that they needed to advertise when > the ice cream van they ended up using was parked outside their Brixton > offices, fully operational, for years. > I thought this too, when I scanned the article. I looked again at the "advert" which was white typeface (not THAT one) on a black background, and looked like someone had just knocked up a text box. The source wasn't quoted. Maybe Bill had just asked them to ask if anyone had one available, when in negotiations for the eventual vehicle? Yet another mystery I suppose .... :) NIk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ("KLF archivist-of-information") Nick Gilmour E-Mail: N.W.Gilmour@selc.hull.ac.uk WWW: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dgilmour/nick.htm KLF FAQ: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dgilmour/klf-faq.txt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick Subject: Re: (klf) X$X Date: 30 Aug 1998 19:22:50 +0100 (BST) On Sun, 23 Aug 1998, Bryson Mills wrote: > > Hmmm. Trying to piece this together without the aid of an FAQ is very > difficult. Trying to piece this mess together to Go in the FAQ is equally laborious/tedious/why/who cares, really? etc... :) NIk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ("KLF archivist-of-information") Nick Gilmour E-Mail: N.W.Gilmour@selc.hull.ac.uk WWW: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dgilmour/nick.htm KLF FAQ: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dgilmour/klf-faq.txt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick Subject: Re: (klf) KLF in Road Rocket mag (Autumn 1991) Date: 30 Aug 1998 19:27:04 +0100 (BST) On Sun, 23 Aug 1998, Stuart Young wrote: > > First off, nice article Nick, what a find! > Just to point out that the article was actually loaned to me for scanning by List Member Mark Reed :) BTW how did the Edinburgh film showings go? NIk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ("KLF archivist-of-information") Nick Gilmour E-Mail: N.W.Gilmour@selc.hull.ac.uk WWW: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dgilmour/nick.htm KLF FAQ: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dgilmour/klf-faq.txt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicola Battista Subject: (klf) re: 2K- FTM Date: 29 Aug 1998 19:11:26 +0200 >Sorry if it's mentioned before, but i actually have FTM in 2 versions. One= > has a Version K, and the other (on vinyl) has a Version P- Royal Oak mix.= > Is it a rarity??? nope. version P is the remix by Panasonic and it only exists on vinyl. This is why I too had to buy both of them... actually I have an Italian cd single with the two stickers on the jewel case, an uk cd single without stickers and the uk vinyl. Did anyone mentioned before that the [radio edit] is the version that appears on "Disco 2000", the comp cd that serves as a sort of soundtrack for the anthology book in which Bill had a short story published recently? Timing on this cd is 4:17 as the final scream has been mixed with the following track and also (obviously) a couple seconds of silence that follow the track on the original cd single version have been cut off. bye, Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryan Grobins Subject: (klf) Can anyone verify this? Date: 30 Aug 1998 14:10:06 +0930 Hi all, Can anyone verify this? A friend of mine told me about the only KLF interview. It sounds something like this: B&J invited a whole lot of journalists for an interview in the UK. Anyway when all these journalists arrived, without having seen B&J yet, were told to board a chartered flight to a small island off the coast of Scotland (same island as the great burn?). For the first day the journalists saw nothing of the two and the day passed uneventful, until 4 am in the morning when they were all woken up and told to dress up in some kind of white hooded robes and dance around a fire. During this they were not allowed to talk. This went on for about 2 to 3 hours. The next day passed without further appearence from the two of them until the evening. Again they were told to dress up in red coloured hooded robes and dance around a fire in celebration af the summer solstice that day. Again the journalists were told that they were not allowed to speak. On the third day B&J still hadn't made any appearance in any form to be interviewed yet. At the end of the third day everyone was told to board another chartered flight back to England. During the flight back, one of the twosome (I don't know which) came out of the front cabin sat down in the middle of the journalists, then curled up in the fetal position and went to sleep! Then that was it! Interview over. If anyone has the full story, cause I don't know if the above is accurate or not, post it on the list. I'd be very interested in knowing the full correct story. Cheers Ryan Grobins -- _______________________________________________________________ Reality is always controlled by the people who are most insane. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) X$X Date: 30 Aug 1998 23:07:05 EDT > Trying to piece this mess together to Go in the FAQ is equally > laborious/tedious/why/who cares, really? etc... Well, to prevent any more future queries I might suggest at least putting in a very small section "Who are X$X and do they have anything to do with the KLF?" Answer: X$X reportedly released a limited cd/tape called "The Black Room." They tried to copy the KLF style by way of packaging but otherwise they have nothing to do with Bill and Jimmy. Maybe toss in some Michael K had something to do with it and he has nothing to do with B&J either. Maybe even suggest not mentioning on the list as they will likely get attacked... -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Daw Subject: Re: (klf) re: 2K- FTM Date: 31 Aug 1998 09:16:57 +0100 In message <3.0.32.19980829024309.008a6e40@box1.tin.it>, Nicola Battista writes >nope. version P is the remix by Panasonic and it only exists on vinyl. This nope. version P also exists on CD in japan. -- Simon Daw # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ulrik Brandt Hansen Subject: (klf) Love Trance in primal demo?? Date: 31 Aug 1998 10:54:01 +0200 In the Primal Demo/Megamix included on the mp3-collections, there is some part of a song i've never heard before, its after TWR and before Build a Fire. It's some kind af singing, sounds eastern to me. Does anyone knows where this comes from??? Another Question: At the b-side for King Of Joy, the managers speech is about 10 min long, but on the collection it's only about 2, what does the rest of the track sound like Ulrik Jeg Skal Ha' Mer' Str=F8m!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ulrik Brandt Hansen Subject: (klf) Acid Brass Live in Denmark Date: 31 Aug 1998 12:45:26 +0200 on the 28/8/1998 acid brass should have played live in denmark, damn, damn,damn. Was any one of the Danes there???? Jeg Skal Ha' Mer' Str=F8m!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) Regarding Mike Dutton Date: 31 Aug 1998 11:01:05 -0500 -----Original Message----- From: John.C.S.Quel [SMTP:k@fnord.demon.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 1998 5:33 AM To: Reed, Mark Cc: 'klf post address' Subject: Re: (klf) Regarding Mike Dutton "Reed, Mark" writes >Well, it's been five months since I first sent my cash to Mike Dutton >for the 'Waiting' and 'TWROST' CDs. And I, and many others, have heard >nothing from him. Same here... after sending off a cheque on the 23/3/98. Has *ANYONE* received *anything* in recent times that actually indicates that he`s attempting to work thru a backlog of orders or summat? I would like to get a list together of individuals who have ordered items from mike Dutton. Just e-mail me a message with the items ordered and a simple Yes or No. I want to get an idea of how many people got involved. At this point I have no confidence that I will ever receive my purchase. I remember reading the information on his bad business practices involving his "This is What the KLF is About" video collection. That was back in 93 or 94. I was completly aware of his past reputation. I gave him a chance as many of you did, and he choose to take advantage of our trust. After I get the information together I will see about having it displayed prominently in the KLF FAQ and anywhere else that is willing to host it. Regards, Don "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan White Subject: (klf) Does anyone know..? Date: 31 Aug 1998 17:11:58 +0000 (GMT) Sorry to be boring, but does anyone know when the WROST CD (Marshall's) should arrive or has anybody received their's? Alan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf