From: David Potosky Subject: (klf) E-bay auctions of Orb stuff. Date: 01 Dec 1998 07:56:24 -0500 For those interested, I am selling some more pieces of my collection @ E-Bay: Orb Perpetual Dawn 12" Orb - U.F.Orb (Bandulu Remix) White Label 12" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Twilight Isotope" Subject: Fw: (klf) Party zone Date: 01 Dec 1998 18:12:56 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: Ancient of Mu Mu To: John Shepherd Cc: klf@xmission.com Date: 30 November 1998 20:18 Subject: RE: (klf) Party zone > managed to change the spelling in my oxford english dictionary!!... and > microsoft's spellchecker too!! Which version of M$'s Spellchecker R U Running 'cos I ran MS Word 6.0 and it spelt Millenium with 1 N! From Oxford Talking Dictionary on CD... millennium /mlenm/ n. Also millenium. Pl. -iums, -ia /-/. M17. [mod.L, f. L mille thousand, after biennium (see BIENNIAL).] 1 A period of one thousand years. Also, a thousandth anniversary. M17. 2 Chr. Ch. The period of one thousand years during which (according to one interpretation of Rev. 20:1-5) Christ will reign in person on earth. M17. 3 A period of peace, happiness, prosperity, and ideal government. E19. And millenium n. var. of MILLENNIUM. But I'd always spell it with two ns tho... Otherwise it looks like it should sound like selenium... Umm.. And I have Word 97, set to British dictionary, and it accepts it with two ns but not with one.... > the correct spelling! Even more worrying, I have a copy of the 1932 "New > English Dictionary", and they've EVEN managed to change that!!!... whether > this was by some kind of evil time travel experiment, They came along time ago! YES it's true but you did not know! (The KLF - America:WTIL) Umm.. Isn't it "We came a long time ago, nine nine two but you did not know... And if you think that the going gets rough, let me ask you..." Etc etc... ?? Umm.. It refers to the bit at the start where it says this is a 1000th anniversary song... 992 + 1000 = 1992 (A:WTIL release year for most of world) Hehe I believe that holds the answer ;-) PC Doctor - PC Hardware or Software Installation Certain areas of Preston, Blackpool and Warrington e-mail PC_DOCTOR@bigfoot.com for more details # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Whiggy" Subject: Re: (klf) in my area? Date: 30 Nov 1998 18:18:08 -0800 > > and is the suitcase containing > > the ashes lying in any galleries? > > It's now a brick. The ashes are, not the suitcase! Unless they made two bricks. ;) Whiggy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Whiggy" Subject: RE: (klf) Party zone Date: 30 Nov 1998 18:13:42 -0800 > > managed to change the spelling in my oxford english dictionary!!... and > > microsoft's spellchecker too!! > > Which version of M$'s Spellchecker R U Running 'cos I ran MS Word 6.0 and > it spelt Millenium with 1 N! Hmm... Which do you trust more, the Oxford English Dictionary, or a Micro$oft product? Whiggy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: Re: (klf) in my area? Date: 01 Dec 1998 10:47:12 PST >> Does anyone know if there are any copies of the video bill and jimmy shot >of >> them burning a million quid floating around? > >I don't think it was every distributed on video, or that bootleg copies exist. > Actually, I recall seeing an ad in Record Collector about a year ago. Some guy was floggin some nice KLF collectables and mentioned he had a video (boot) of the burning. Probably took a camera along to one of the screenings... I did try to get in touch with him, but kept missing him :( I can tell you that his mum was very nice tho :) cheers, NIk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: (klf) Pre-Christmas reading Date: 01 Dec 1998 10:52:41 PST Here's some good news which, hopefully, will be just in time for Christmas. I spoke to a nice woman at Ellipsis late last week who passd on the following items you might want to put on your Christmas lists: 1. "The Manual", by B Drummond, J. Cauty, J. Savage, ukp9.95, Ellipsis London (ISBN: 1899858652) will be published (finally) in around 3 weeks time (around the 15th December). It will be available thru the usual UK outlets (Waterstones, etc) and also thru Ellipsis directly. "www.amazon.co.uk" also have this on their web-site to pre-order. And good news for all you German listeners, the book has been translated to German, but I have no release details for that as yet. (maybe try "www.amazon.de") Unfortunately, it's too near Christmas for any large publicity campaigns, so there are no signings or other events planned. You'll probably see a few press articles, but that's your lot :( And the good news continues: 2. "The Annual Report" [I think it's called], by Bill Drummond, is a "small book" concerning "a trip by Bill to Calcutta to confront Kali, the god of women". This is available in a limited run of 250 copies, directly from Ellipsis and will also be released in the next few weeks. Price is ukp10. I'm skeptical of the subject matter of the book, but have pre-ordered one in case :). And I also pre-ordered one of these: 3. "From the Shores of Lake Placid", by Bill Drummond is another "small book", consisting of short stories/reflections. Available in a limited run of 300, it also costs ukp10 and is only available from Ellipsis in the next few weeks. It also sounds like a few more of these are planned. So that's that to keep you busy until the Spring, when the next installment of the Bad Wisdom series is released. Allegedly. For further info, you could check out the Ellipsis web-site: www.ellipsis.com (but this has not been updated yet) Or you can fax Ellipsis (London) on :(+44)/0 171 739 3175 Happy holidays :) NIk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: (klf) Re: US Marshall Date: 01 Dec 1998 17:32:16 -0500 I received mine on Friday. Haven't had a chance to listen yet, but it looks great. -- Adam J Weitzman NewsEdge Corporation Is it supposed to http://www.newsedge.com sound like that? http://www.newspage.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: litjen@easynet.co.uk (Graham Scales) Subject: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 01 Dec 1998 15:46:09 -0700 This has probably been mentioned before but I was watching the Blues Brothers tonight and wondered, Did Bill and Jimmy get their inspiration for Ford Timelord from that film as they seem to have nicked most of there imagery from many different sources?? 'laters Graham | Homepages - The Blue Cafe | | http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~litjen/index.htm | | ICQ: 15092528 Nickname: Watchman | # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL_KENNEDY@derwentside.ac.uk (MICHAEL KENNEDY) Subject: Re: (klf) MU Date: 02 Dec 1998 13:21:07 +0000 There's a scan of this cd on the all music guide site type KLF in the search and a list of different singles / albums will come up http://www.allmusic.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: (klf) Bill about Tammy Date: 02 Dec 1998 11:43:10 +0100 Where do I find that text Bill Drummond wrote about Tammy Wynette after her death? Torsten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy R." Subject: Re: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 02 Dec 1998 18:50:51 +0000 Graham Scales wrote: > This has probably been mentioned before but I was watching the Blues > Brothers tonight and wondered, > Did Bill and Jimmy get their inspiration for Ford Timelord from that > film as they seem to have nicked most of there imagery from many > different sources?? The story is that Ford Timelord was just Jimmy's car before the KLF started... he bought it for 300quid secondhand, it having been used in the film "Superman IV" (the Superman films were made in the UK BTW). Rumour has it that the car has been replaced at least once. The 'car makes record' thing was supposedly a 'spur of the monent' idea, because B&J didn't want to front the record. - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thorne, Chris" Subject: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 02 Dec 1998 14:02:30 -0500 >>The story is that Ford Timelord was just Jimmy's car before the KLF >>started... he bought it for 300quid secondhand, it having been used in >>the film "Superman IV" (the Superman films were made in the UK BTW). >>Rumour has it that the car has been replaced at least once. >> >>The 'car makes record' thing was supposedly a 'spur of the monent' idea, >>because B&J didn't want to front the record. Is there anywhere on the net with pics, stats, or more info on our four wheeled friend? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 02 Dec 1998 13:13:10 -0600 -----Original Message----- From: Thorne, Chris [SMTP:Chris.Thorne@wl.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 1998 1:03 PM To: 'klf@lists.xmission.com' Subject: (klf) Ford Timelord Is there anywhere on the net with pics, stats, or more info on our four wheeled friend? I think it was destroyed in some sort of demolition derby. Don "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: litjen@easynet.co.uk (Graham Scales) Subject: Re: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 02 Dec 1998 15:54:45 -0700 At 18:50 02/12/98 +0000, Andy R. wrote: >The 'car makes record' thing was supposedly a 'spur of the monent' idea, >because B&J didn't want to front the record. > OK, I know all the story about how it was Jimmy's car and how they didn't want to front the record etc. It was more the use of the car, "Ford Timelord" for want of a better name or description, maybe I should have used the "Galaxy V8 Ford" tag or better still to say an old US police car, to make myself more clear that As I said, I meant the whole use of the car and imagery surrounding it. eg. Who Killed the Jamms front sleeve 3 AM Eternal video Downtown video heck even the White Room film It's the whole driving/road movie style. About being in something distinctive like the police car. In the film The Blues Bros when they are publicising the concert at the Hotel Palace Ball Room, driving around with a loud speaker on top of the car, heck can't you see the KLF doing that!! etc.... 'laters Gaham | Homepages - The Blue Cafe | | http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~litjen/index.htm | | ICQ: 15092528 Nickname: Watchman | # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Drew Radtke Subject: (klf) Bill Drummond's books Date: 02 Dec 1998 16:08:34 +0000 (GMT) Dear all; I was on the phone to Ellipsis earlier today and the woman I spoke to told me she'd had loads of calls and didn't know how the info was getting out. I said I had an idea how (by the KLF list!) and she seemed interested in this. She asked if I'd forward this to the list for all to see. So here it is... please email or call her... not me!! Drew -- lindsay evans wrote: Thanks for the few that have phoned already - I thought it a good idea to pass on as much info as possible. Here's the information on the three new books ellipsis have available: The Manual (reprint ) =A310.00 available mid December The Annual (limited edition between 200 and 300 copies available) =A310.0= 0 >From the Shores on Lake Placid (limited edition between 200 and 300 copi= es available) =A310.00 K Foundation Burn a Million Quid (published in December 1997) =A315.00 All the above titles can be ordered by credit card directly from Lindsay = on tel 0171 7393157, fax 0171 7393175 or email lindsay@ellipsis.co.uk. Pleas= e let me know your mailing address and card details. K Foundation Burn a Million Quid and The Manual - should be available fro= m good bookshops and the two limited editions should be available from Helt= er Skelter in London and a handfull of supporting bookshops. If you need any more information please let me know. Thanks Lindsay Here's the blurb on the first edition The Annual Bill Drummond's Annual Report to the Mavericks, Writers and Film Festival is a vivid tale of how he allows a bunch of strangers at a literary festival to send him to Calcutta to file his accounts with the fearsome goddess Kali, representative of 'the unbridled nature of the female of th= e species.' Or is he responding to her unavoidable personal summons to take stock of the intricacies of his personal life and serially unworshipful relationships? His prilgrimage, a comfortable confessional blessedly free from the usual descriptive accounts, takes him via Bombay and the M25 in the company of Gerry 'Filthy MacNasty's' O'Boyle and Iain Sinclair. He takes with him Te= d Hughes' Birthday Letters as a talisman against the power of Kali, all tha= t is loathsome and disgusting and powerful and insatiable. Drummond originally fell in love with Hughes' work - so removed from his 'world of counter-culture superstars, striking car workers, punk rock wars, reggae records and signing on' - to fill the space left by the demise of punk. Hughes, whose own death ends the narrative, becomes his constant companio= n on both his inner journey and his geographical one. On the 36-hour train journey from Bombay to Kali's temple in Calcutta Birthday Letters - all that messy relationship stuff - is turned into an ammunition of paper planes littering the route from the Arabian Sea to the Bay of Bengal, a trail of poetry from sea to sea. He delivers the remains of the book as a sacrificial offering at the altar of Kali's toe. And should Ted be told? Horrified at a the prospect of finding himself a 'cheap tourist in someon= e else's religion', Drummond is forced to admit common cause, and a shared choice in breakfast venues, with men of a certain age trying to find themselves. He returns to find himself with a growing appreciation of the Unabomber's literary style and beliefs but luckily remembers what his mum always told him, and makes the final decision not to write the film scrip= t for Executing God. The five pieces of Annual Report to the Mavericks, Writers and Film Festival span just over a year in one man's mid-life crisis; from the publication of Birthday Letters to the death of its author; from one Mavericks, Writers and Film Festival to the next; from the invitation to write one film script to a final question about who could play Ted Hughes in the film of the Ted and Sylvia story. Who indeed? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michelle and Stuey Subject: (klf) white label for sale Date: 03 Dec 1998 11:55:37 +1300 Hi everyone. I've been in touch with someone who produced a KLF-Konnected white label, he has some copies left and wonders if any Kollectors out there are interested in buying a copy. If you are interested please contact Michael Mac directly. DON'T CONTACT ME ABOUT IT. Michael says:=20 "It's a white label E.P. with 4 tracks, by The Hardcore Outlaw E.P. called "The Guns of Mu Mu." produced by President Bass. It uses the "Mu Mu" sample! Bill Drummond mentioned it in an article published March 1994 in Melody Maker (mentioned along with Wanda Dee, the kkk and some other bands who had done Klf inspired or Klf sampled works). I have about 10 left at =A311.00 each not including postage and packing... use international money order." Stuey adds:=20 the article he mentions sounds rather like the article that Pete Robinson wrote that also mentions X$X, but I don't have it to hand to check. Cheers, Stuey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lindgren" Subject: (klf) PLEASE, help me!! Date: 03 Dec 1998 04:48:41 PST >Hello everybody, > >since the first time I heard about the below named cd I`ve tried to >gotten hold of it, three people have said " Yeah - I`ll get it for >you!!! ". ' > >Well no-one have helpeed me to get it so once again: > > >Could someone PLEASE help me get: >PAUL OAKENFOLDS "ESSENTIAL SUMMER 98`" incl KLFs WTIL. > > >If someone could help m eget it PLEASE REPLY TO ME!!! > > - david > > > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > >David Lindgren phone (+46) 026 25 95 42 >Lockropsv.7 " 0709 521 512 >S-811 37 Sandviken >SWEDEN davli44@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ancient of Mu Mu Subject: (klf) KLF Chill Out on C4 (UK) Last Night Date: 03 Dec 1998 16:09:33 GMT+0 A song from the KLF's chill out album was on for about 10 secs last night on C4. They used it as a logo jingle thingie whilst they showed there logo. It was on just before Who's Line Is It Anyway? Anybody else see it?PC Doctor - PC Hardware or Software Installation Certain areas of Preston, Blackpool and Warrington e-mail PC_DOCTOR@bigfoot.com for more details or visit http://members.tripod.com/reddwarf_2/pc_doctor.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christopher.D.Gilmour" Subject: (klf) re:KLF Chill Out on C4 (uk) Last night Date: 03 Dec 1998 17:07:42 +0000 (GMT) I saw who's line is it anyway last night, but I didn't notice any Chillout thing before hand. However, I'm pretty sure that during the programm the audience were laughing far too much at the jokes, laughing far too much. rgds CH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Ashkenazi Subject: (klf) Kool items for sale! Date: 03 Dec 1998 19:24:43 +0200 Hi, I know a guy that wants to sell the following CDs: Space / Space (the very good quality bootleg) The KLF / This Is What The KLF Is About II (with stickers) The KLF / Last Train To Trancentral (live from the lost continent) The KLF / Last Train To Trancentral (meets the moody boys uptown) For any further information please send me an e-mail. Btw: If anyone have the URT CD for sale let me know! Regards, David A. =A0 -- __________________________________ I've lost the rest of my signature file on a crash... - ICQ: 13255725 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: Re: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 03 Dec 1998 13:29:37 -0000 -----Original Message----- > >I think it was destroyed in some sort of demolition derby. This is often said but the car they used at the Banger Racing was a mock up (it was a Chevy Caprice) so the fate of Ford Timelord is a mystery. I would have thought the cars notoriety would have made Jimmy too attached to it to get rid of it. Although not everyone gets attached to cars! In an article about the Banger Racing it said that the KLF were asked to bring it along but it was already a wreck at that point. If Jimmy could afford to Burn a million quid, I'm sure he could have afforded to have his car fixed! Phil. B.T.W. They had another one, (you can see it outside Trancentral on the start of the Omnibus program) which they later sold to someone from Jesus Jones (I think). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: Re: (klf) re:KLF Chill Out on C4 (uk) Last night Date: 03 Dec 1998 11:28:47 PST Yep, my ears pricked too when I heard this. It accompanies a trailer for a season of programmes for "night people" which Ch4 are putting on in the next few weeks. (roughly Thurs-Sun, 23:00 to late) Can't see any KLF content in the listings, but (not wishing to start a rumour), could it herald some Chris Morris work, or even the fabled Mark Thomas/Bill Drummond interview? :) However, I believe the tune which featured, was the original, as then sampled by the KLF for Chill Out. Could it be 'Albatross' by Wings? I'd have to check Stuey's Sample List. It's the bit on Chill Out with the waves breaking on the shore... :) NIk BTW CDG> brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "big brother is watching" :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: Re: (klf) re:KLF Chill Out on C4 (uk) Last night Date: 03 Dec 1998 11:28:47 PST Yep, my ears pricked too when I heard this. It accompanies a trailer for a season of programmes for "night people" which Ch4 are putting on in the next few weeks. (roughly Thurs-Sun, 23:00 to late) Can't see any KLF content in the listings, but (not wishing to start a rumour), could it herald some Chris Morris work, or even the fabled Mark Thomas/Bill Drummond interview? :) However, I believe the tune which featured, was the original, as then sampled by the KLF for Chill Out. Could it be 'Albatross' by Wings? I'd have to check Stuey's Sample List. It's the bit on Chill Out with the waves breaking on the shore... :) NIk BTW CDG> brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "big brother is watching" :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: Re: (klf) re:KLF Chill Out on C4 (uk) Last night Date: 03 Dec 1998 11:29:02 PST Yep, my ears pricked too when I heard this. It accompanies a trailer for a season of programmes for "night people" which Ch4 are putting on in the next few weeks. (roughly Thurs-Sun, 23:00 to late) Can't see any KLF content in the listings, but (not wishing to start a rumour), could it herald some Chris Morris work, or even the fabled Mark Thomas/Bill Drummond interview? :) However, I believe the tune which featured, was the original, as then sampled by the KLF for Chill Out. Could it be 'Albatross' by Wings? I'd have to check Stuey's Sample List. It's the bit on Chill Out with the waves breaking on the shore... :) NIk BTW CDG> brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "big brother is watching" :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: Re: (klf) re:KLF Chill Out on C4 (uk) Last night Date: 03 Dec 1998 11:28:47 PST Yep, my ears pricked too when I heard this. It accompanies a trailer for a season of programmes for "night people" which Ch4 are putting on in the next few weeks. (roughly Thurs-Sun, 23:00 to late) Can't see any KLF content in the listings, but (not wishing to start a rumour), could it herald some Chris Morris work, or even the fabled Mark Thomas/Bill Drummond interview? :) However, I believe the tune which featured, was the original, as then sampled by the KLF for Chill Out. Could it be 'Albatross' by Wings? I'd have to check Stuey's Sample List. It's the bit on Chill Out with the waves breaking on the shore... :) NIk BTW CDG> brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "big brother is watching" :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: Re: (klf) re:KLF Chill Out on C4 (uk) Last night Date: 03 Dec 1998 11:28:47 PST Yep, my ears pricked too when I heard this. It accompanies a trailer for a season of programmes for "night people" which Ch4 are putting on in the next few weeks. (roughly Thurs-Sun, 23:00 to late) Can't see any KLF content in the listings, but (not wishing to start a rumour), could it herald some Chris Morris work, or even the fabled Mark Thomas/Bill Drummond interview? :) However, I believe the tune which featured, was the original, as then sampled by the KLF for Chill Out. Could it be 'Albatross' by Wings? I'd have to check Stuey's Sample List. It's the bit on Chill Out with the waves breaking on the shore... :) NIk BTW CDG> brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "big brother is watching" :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: Re: (klf) re:KLF Chill Out on C4 (uk) Last night Date: 03 Dec 1998 11:28:47 PST Yep, my ears pricked too when I heard this. It accompanies a trailer for a season of programmes for "night people" which Ch4 are putting on in the next few weeks. (roughly Thurs-Sun, 23:00 to late) Can't see any KLF content in the listings, but (not wishing to start a rumour), could it herald some Chris Morris work, or even the fabled Mark Thomas/Bill Drummond interview? :) However, I believe the tune which featured, was the original, as then sampled by the KLF for Chill Out. Could it be 'Albatross' by Wings? I'd have to check Stuey's Sample List. It's the bit on Chill Out with the waves breaking on the shore... :) NIk BTW CDG> brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "big brother is watching" :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: Re: (klf) re:KLF Chill Out on C4 (uk) Last night Date: 03 Dec 1998 11:28:47 PST Yep, my ears pricked too when I heard this. It accompanies a trailer for a season of programmes for "night people" which Ch4 are putting on in the next few weeks. (roughly Thurs-Sun, 23:00 to late) Can't see any KLF content in the listings, but (not wishing to start a rumour), could it herald some Chris Morris work, or even the fabled Mark Thomas/Bill Drummond interview? :) However, I believe the tune which featured, was the original, as then sampled by the KLF for Chill Out. Could it be 'Albatross' by Wings? I'd have to check Stuey's Sample List. It's the bit on Chill Out with the waves breaking on the shore... :) NIk BTW CDG> brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "big brother is watching" :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: Re: (klf) re:KLF Chill Out on C4 (uk) Last night Date: 03 Dec 1998 11:28:47 PST Yep, my ears pricked too when I heard this. It accompanies a trailer for a season of programmes for "night people" which Ch4 are putting on in the next few weeks. (roughly Thurs-Sun, 23:00 to late) Can't see any KLF content in the listings, but (not wishing to start a rumour), could it herald some Chris Morris work, or even the fabled Mark Thomas/Bill Drummond interview? :) However, I believe the tune which featured, was the original, as then sampled by the KLF for Chill Out. Could it be 'Albatross' by Wings? I'd have to check Stuey's Sample List. It's the bit on Chill Out with the waves breaking on the shore... :) NIk BTW CDG> brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "big brother is watching" :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: Re: (klf) re:KLF Chill Out on C4 (uk) Last night Date: 03 Dec 1998 11:28:47 PST Yep, my ears pricked too when I heard this. It accompanies a trailer for a season of programmes for "night people" which Ch4 are putting on in the next few weeks. (roughly Thurs-Sun, 23:00 to late) Can't see any KLF content in the listings, but (not wishing to start a rumour), could it herald some Chris Morris work, or even the fabled Mark Thomas/Bill Drummond interview? :) However, I believe the tune which featured, was the original, as then sampled by the KLF for Chill Out. Could it be 'Albatross' by Wings? I'd have to check Stuey's Sample List. It's the bit on Chill Out with the waves breaking on the shore... :) NIk BTW CDG> brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "big brother is watching" :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: Re: (klf) re:KLF Chill Out on C4 (uk) Last night Date: 03 Dec 1998 11:28:47 PST Yep, my ears pricked too when I heard this. It accompanies a trailer for a season of programmes for "night people" which Ch4 are putting on in the next few weeks. (roughly Thurs-Sun, 23:00 to late) Can't see any KLF content in the listings, but (not wishing to start a rumour), could it herald some Chris Morris work, or even the fabled Mark Thomas/Bill Drummond interview? :) However, I believe the tune which featured, was the original, as then sampled by the KLF for Chill Out. Could it be 'Albatross' by Wings? I'd have to check Stuey's Sample List. It's the bit on Chill Out with the waves breaking on the shore... :) NIk BTW CDG> brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "big brother is watching" :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: Re: (klf) re:KLF Chill Out on C4 (uk) Last night Date: 03 Dec 1998 11:28:47 PST Yep, my ears pricked too when I heard this. It accompanies a trailer for a season of programmes for "night people" which Ch4 are putting on in the next few weeks. (roughly Thurs-Sun, 23:00 to late) Can't see any KLF content in the listings, but (not wishing to start a rumour), could it herald some Chris Morris work, or even the fabled Mark Thomas/Bill Drummond interview? :) However, I believe the tune which featured, was the original, as then sampled by the KLF for Chill Out. Could it be 'Albatross' by Wings? I'd have to check Stuey's Sample List. It's the bit on Chill Out with the waves breaking on the shore... :) NIk BTW CDG> brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "big brother is watching" :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: Re: (klf) re:KLF Chill Out on C4 (uk) Last night Date: 03 Dec 1998 11:28:47 PST Yep, my ears pricked too when I heard this. It accompanies a trailer for a season of programmes for "night people" which Ch4 are putting on in the next few weeks. (roughly Thurs-Sun, 23:00 to late) Can't see any KLF content in the listings, but (not wishing to start a rumour), could it herald some Chris Morris work, or even the fabled Mark Thomas/Bill Drummond interview? :) However, I believe the tune which featured, was the original, as then sampled by the KLF for Chill Out. Could it be 'Albatross' by Wings? I'd have to check Stuey's Sample List. It's the bit on Chill Out with the waves breaking on the shore... :) NIk BTW CDG> brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "big brother is watching" :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: Re: (klf) re:KLF Chill Out on C4 (uk) Last night Date: 03 Dec 1998 11:28:47 PST Yep, my ears pricked too when I heard this. It accompanies a trailer for a season of programmes for "night people" which Ch4 are putting on in the next few weeks. (roughly Thurs-Sun, 23:00 to late) Can't see any KLF content in the listings, but (not wishing to start a rumour), could it herald some Chris Morris work, or even the fabled Mark Thomas/Bill Drummond interview? :) However, I believe the tune which featured, was the original, as then sampled by the KLF for Chill Out. Could it be 'Albatross' by Wings? I'd have to check Stuey's Sample List. It's the bit on Chill Out with the waves breaking on the shore... :) NIk BTW CDG> brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "big brother is watching" :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: Re: (klf) re:KLF Chill Out on C4 (uk) Last night Date: 03 Dec 1998 11:28:47 PST Yep, my ears pricked too when I heard this. It accompanies a trailer for a season of programmes for "night people" which Ch4 are putting on in the next few weeks. (roughly Thurs-Sun, 23:00 to late) Can't see any KLF content in the listings, but (not wishing to start a rumour), could it herald some Chris Morris work, or even the fabled Mark Thomas/Bill Drummond interview? :) However, I believe the tune which featured, was the original, as then sampled by the KLF for Chill Out. Could it be 'Albatross' by Wings? I'd have to check Stuey's Sample List. It's the bit on Chill Out with the waves breaking on the shore... :) NIk BTW CDG> brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "big brother is watching" :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ee52kt@ee.surrey.ac.uk (Kyle M Thompson) Subject: Re: (klf) re:KLF Chill Out on C4 (uk) Last night Date: 03 Dec 1998 19:45:14 +0000 (GMT) U>However, I believe the tune which featured, was the original, as then U>sampled by the KLF for Chill Out. Could it be 'Albatross' by Wings? U>I'd have to check Stuey's Sample List. it was fleetwood mac, wasn't it? kyle, woried anbout exams. soo woried he can't spell propernly. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christian Villum Subject: (klf) Omnibus Date: 03 Dec 1998 20:28:05 +0100 Phil Blake [phil@philmanns.demon.co.uk] wrote: "B.T.W. They had another one, (you can see it outside Trancentral on the start of the Omnibus program) which they later sold to someone from Jesus Jones (I think)." The Omnibus program? Whats that? Me not know... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALTONBARNS@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) re:KLF Chill Out on C4 (uk) Last night Date: 03 Dec 1998 16:08:12 EST DID ANYONE ELSE RECEIVE THIS MAESSAGE ABOUT 20+ TIMES? I would be grateful if someone could e-mail me Antony In a message dated 03/12/98 19:32:25, you write: << my ears pricked too when I heard this. It accompanies a trailer for a season of programmes for "night people" which Ch4 are putting on in the next few weeks. (roughly Thurs-Sun, 23:00 to late) Can't see any KLF content in the listings, but (not wishing to start a rumour), could it herald some Chris Morris work, or even the fabled Mark Thomas/Bill Drummond interview? :) >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gregor Menasian Subject: (klf) Hotmail glitch causing email onslaught Date: 03 Dec 1998 13:21:02 -0800 (PST) It's not the hotmail users' fault that we're getting spammed: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,29513,00.html?st.ne.fd.mdh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Abel Subject: Re: (klf) Bill Drummond's books Date: 03 Dec 1998 09:09:54 +0000 lindsay evans wrote: > All the above titles can be ordered by credit card directly from Lindsay on > tel 0171 7393157, fax 0171 7393175 or email lindsay@ellipsis.co.uk. Please > let me know your mailing address and card details. > > K Foundation Burn a Million Quid and The Manual - should be available from > good bookshops and the two limited editions should be available from Helter > Skelter in London and a handfull of supporting bookshops. does anyone know where Helter Skelter is? cheers Dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kjartan Behm" Subject: (klf) KLF Chill Out on C4 (uk) Last night Date: 03 Dec 1998 19:24:39 -0000 Yup, I saw it, it's advertising their "Good Head TV" promotion. I noticed the clip from Chill Out instantly, the part with the seagulls squawking I think... Kjartan. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Hurwood" Subject: RE: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 04 Dec 1998 06:27:08 +1100 We can also speculate on what happened to the Icecream Van, since The KLF's own mythology says they ditched Ford for it. And who did the voice of Ford Timelord on the Shag Times? Will asking these question get us anywhere? >>I think it was destroyed in some sort of demolition derby. >This is often said but the car they used at the Banger Racing was a mock up >(it was a Chevy Caprice) so the fate of Ford Timelord is a mystery. I would >have thought the cars notoriety would have made Jimmy too attached to it to >get rid of it. Although not everyone gets attached to cars! In an article >about the Banger Racing it said that the KLF were asked to bring it along >but it was already a wreck at that point. If Jimmy could afford to Burn a >million quid, I'm sure he could have afforded to have his car fixed! > >Phil. > >B.T.W. They had another one, (you can see it outside Trancentral on the >start of the Omnibus program) which they later sold to someone from Jesus >Jones (I think). Michael Hurwood \ Likes: The KLF, TISM, Richard Dawkins, Coca Cola, michaelh@mpx.com.au \ Monty Python, 70s & 80s Retro, Programming, Life. Web: www.cia.com.au/thug \ Dislikes: Pauline Hanson, Milk, The Spice Girls, Location: Sydney, Australia\ Musicals, Microsoft, Economic Rationalism. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kjartan Behm" Subject: Re: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 03 Dec 1998 19:26:30 -0000 >B.T.W. They had another one, (you can see it outside Trancentral on the >start of the Omnibus program) which they later sold to someone from Jesus >Jones (I think). Does anyone have a tape of the Omnibus program they could sell me? Kjartan. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (klf) White Room OST Date: 03 Dec 1998 15:45:55 -0700 On Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 05:36:47PM -0500, James Mason wrote: > Has anyone else not received this yet from Marshall? > Am I alone in this? You are not. -- Lazlo Nibble - lazlo@studio-nibble.com - http://www.studio-nibble.com this message powered by nomad - changing cabins -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (klf) re:KLF Chill Out on C4 (uk) Last night Date: 03 Dec 1998 15:55:30 -0700 On Thu, Dec 03, 1998 at 04:08:12PM -0500, ALTONBARNS@aol.com wrote: > DID ANYONE ELSE RECEIVE THIS MAESSAGE ABOUT 20+ TIMES? Yes -- everyone did. It's a problem at hotmail, apparently. -- Lazlo Nibble - lazlo@studio-nibble.com - http://www.studio-nibble.com this message powered by nomad - changing cabins -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christopher.D.Gilmour" Subject: Re: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 02 Dec 1998 15:14:04 +0000 () > This has probably been mentioned before but I was watching the Blues > Brothers tonight and wondered, > Did Bill and Jimmy get their inspiration for Ford Timelord from that film as > they seem to have nicked most of there imagery from many different sources?? Funnily enough Ford Timelord lead an active career in Hollywood, starring in the Blues Brother's Movie before he joined the Jamms. It wasn't so much that Jill and Bimmy stole the idea, but the idea stole them, rgds C # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Whiggy" Subject: Re: (klf) re:KLF Chill Out on C4 (uk) Last night Date: 03 Dec 1998 18:37:47 -0800 > > DID ANYONE ELSE RECEIVE THIS MAESSAGE ABOUT 20+ TIMES? > > I would be grateful if someone could e-mail me > Antony Only 14 times for me. (Yes, I counted.) Whiggy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Whiggy" Subject: Re: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 03 Dec 1998 19:15:31 -0800 > Funnily enough Ford Timelord lead an active career in Hollywood, > starring in the Blues Brother's Movie before he joined the Jamms. I'm pretty sure it's not the same car. Although it sounds cooler. ;) > It wasn't so much that Jill and Bimmy stole the idea, but the idea > stole them, rgds Oh no, their secret is finally out! The lads used to be lasses! And can you blame poor Jimmy for hiding the shame of being named Bimmy. >:-p Whiggy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 04 Dec 1998 01:16:18 EST > Funnily enough Ford Timelord lead an active career in Hollywood, > starring in the Blues Brother's Movie before he joined the Jamms. Actually that's one of the Superman flicks if you're taking notes... -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: klf@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (klf) Smiley's Christmas Clearout! Date: 04 Dec 1998 11:33:26 GMT morning all. i have a new spares list with stuff by: holmer, weatherall, fsol, orb, leftfield, KLF, 808state, tricky, and many others some very nice KLF stuff, btw... take a look (see tagline) and see if anything takes your fancy. l8r. -- Smiley new spares list at http://come.to/SmileyWeb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis Liapis" Subject: Re: (klf) White Room OST Date: 04 Dec 1998 05:02:30 PST >Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:45:55 -0700 >From: Lazlo Nibble >To: klf@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: (klf) White Room OST > > >On Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 05:36:47PM -0500, James Mason wrote: > >> Has anyone else not received this yet from Marshall? >> Am I alone in this? > >You are not. Definetely not. Life is... Bizzzare! Obsession? Madness.... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ancient of Mu Mu Subject: Re: (klf) Omnibus Date: 04 Dec 1998 14:08:43 GMT+0 Chrisian Villum wrote: > The Omnibus program? Whats that? Me not know... Omnibus is a program on BBC 1 where they go and have 'interviews' with various companies and stars (some of the stars include The KLF, Sir Cliff Richard, Princess Diana, Prince Charles and many more) about what caused them to do what they did and how they became famous and basically just look into there life so far. Also they attempt to uncover future plans and they show various clips from the past. They also try to uncover various lies the government tells people about topics like BSE, genetically modified food, and others. PC Doctor - PC Hardware or Software Installation Certain areas of Preston, Blackpool and Warrington e-mail PC_DOCTOR@bigfoot.com for more details or visit http://members.tripod.com/reddwarf_2/pc_doctor.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ancient of Mu Mu Subject: RE: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 04 Dec 1998 14:17:36 GMT+0 > This is often said but the car they used at the Banger Racing was a mock up > (it was a Chevy Caprice) so the fate of Ford Timelord is a mystery. Which car was dropped off a cliff after Bill & Jimmy signed a contract on it's windscreen in gold pen wasn't that ford timelord? > If Jimmy could afford to Burn a million quid, I'm sure he > could have afforded to have his car fixed! Wasn't that like ALL HIS MONEY? (so therefore he had stlg0.00 in the bank (not even enough to buy a penny sweet let alone have a car fixed!))PC Doctor - PC Hardware or Software Installation Certain areas of Preston, Blackpool and Warrington e-mail PC_DOCTOR@bigfoot.com for more details or visit http://members.tripod.com/reddwarf_2/pc_doctor.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ancient of Mu Mu Subject: Re: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 04 Dec 1998 14:29:30 GMT+0 > In the film The Blues Bros when they are publicising the concert at the > Hotel Palace Ball Room, driving around with a loud speaker on top of the > car, heck can't you see the KLF doing that!! etc.... I think Ricardo Da Force came pretty close to doing that in the video of 3AM Eternal where he is driving round a roundabout near Big Ben in a car with a sunroof shouting KLF is Gonna Rock You! from it btw When Ricardo shouted down the phone in the video did he actually call anyone and were there any complaints?PC Doctor - PC Hardware or Software Installation Certain areas of Preston, Blackpool and Warrington e-mail PC_DOCTOR@bigfoot.com for more details or visit http://members.tripod.com/reddwarf_2/pc_doctor.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy R." Subject: Re: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 04 Dec 1998 17:04:36 +0000 Ancient of Mu Mu wrote: > > > This is often said but the car they used at the Banger Racing was a mock up > > (it was a Chevy Caprice) so the fate of Ford Timelord is a mystery. > > Which car was dropped off a cliff after Bill & Jimmy signed a > contract on it's windscreen in gold pen wasn't that ford timelord? no, it was AFAIK an ancient japanese car (datsun?), bought after jJimmy & the journalist convinced Bill not to throw the hertz hire car they had over the cliff. > > If Jimmy could afford to Burn a million quid, I'm sure he > > could have afforded to have his car fixed! > > Wasn't that like ALL HIS MONEY? No, it was all the K foundation's money - a BIG difference. - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Drew Radtke Subject: (klf) Bill Drummond's books Date: 02 Dec 1998 16:08:34 +0000 (GMT) Dear all; I was on the phone to Ellipsis earlier today and the woman I spoke to told me she'd had loads of calls and didn't know how the info was getting out. I said I had an idea how (by the KLF list!) and she seemed interested in this. She asked if I'd forward this to the list for all to see. So here it is... please email or call her... not me!! Drew -- lindsay evans wrote: Thanks for the few that have phoned already - I thought it a good idea to pass on as much info as possible. Here's the information on the three new books ellipsis have available: The Manual (reprint ) =A310.00 available mid December The Annual (limited edition between 200 and 300 copies available) =A310.0= 0 >From the Shores on Lake Placid (limited edition between 200 and 300 copie= s available) =A310.00 K Foundation Burn a Million Quid (published in December 1997) =A315.00 All the above titles can be ordered by credit card directly from Lindsay = on tel 0171 7393157, fax 0171 7393175 or email lindsay@ellipsis.co.uk. Pleas= e let me know your mailing address and card details. K Foundation Burn a Million Quid and The Manual - should be available fro= m good bookshops and the two limited editions should be available from Helt= er Skelter in London and a handfull of supporting bookshops. If you need any more information please let me know. Thanks Lindsay Here's the blurb on the first edition The Annual Bill Drummond's Annual Report to the Mavericks, Writers and Film Festival is a vivid tale of how he allows a bunch of strangers at a literary festival to send him to Calcutta to file his accounts with the fearsome goddess Kali, representative of 'the unbridled nature of the female of th= e species.' Or is he responding to her unavoidable personal summons to take stock of the intricacies of his personal life and serially unworshipful relationships? His prilgrimage, a comfortable confessional blessedly free from the usual descriptive accounts, takes him via Bombay and the M25 in the company of Gerry 'Filthy MacNasty's' O'Boyle and Iain Sinclair. He takes with him Te= d Hughes' Birthday Letters as a talisman against the power of Kali, all tha= t is loathsome and disgusting and powerful and insatiable. Drummond originally fell in love with Hughes' work - so removed from his 'world of counter-culture superstars, striking car workers, punk rock wars, reggae records and signing on' - to fill the space left by the demise of punk. Hughes, whose own death ends the narrative, becomes his constant companio= n on both his inner journey and his geographical one. On the 36-hour train journey from Bombay to Kali's temple in Calcutta Birthday Letters - all that messy relationship stuff - is turned into an ammunition of paper planes littering the route from the Arabian Sea to the Bay of Bengal, a trail of poetry from sea to sea. He delivers the remains of the book as a sacrificial offering at the altar of Kali's toe. And should Ted be told? Horrified at a the prospect of finding himself a 'cheap tourist in someon= e else's religion', Drummond is forced to admit common cause, and a shared choice in breakfast venues, with men of a certain age trying to find themselves. He returns to find himself with a growing appreciation of the Unabomber's literary style and beliefs but luckily remembers what his mum always told him, and makes the final decision not to write the film scrip= t for Executing God. The five pieces of Annual Report to the Mavericks, Writers and Film Festival span just over a year in one man's mid-life crisis; from the publication of Birthday Letters to the death of its author; from one Mavericks, Writers and Film Festival to the next; from the invitation to write one film script to a final question about who could play Ted Hughes in the film of the Ted and Sylvia story. Who indeed? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: (klf) 03.00 AM eternal Date: 03 Dec 1998 18:41:00 +0100 I saw this on a new records list - anybody know if theres any relation? 03:00am ETERNAL Various LP 11.99 CD Call Lacerba. Kick back and relax to the late groove fest with tracks from LOCUST, BOARDS OF CANADA, SALARYMAN, SAINT ETIENNE, DOBIE, BALLISTIC BROTHERS, RUNAWAYS and more. Lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: Re: RE: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 04 Dec 1998 18:04:11 -0000 -----Original Message----- > >> This is often said but the car they used at the Banger Racing was a mock up >> (it was a Chevy Caprice) so the fate of Ford Timelord is a mystery. > >Which car was dropped off a cliff after Bill & Jimmy signed a >contract on it's windscreen in gold pen wasn't that ford timelord? No, it was a rented G reg Datsun Bluebird >> If Jimmy could afford to Burn a million quid, I'm sure he >> could have afforded to have his car fixed! > >Wasn't that like ALL HIS MONEY? (so therefore he had stlg0.00 in the >bank (not even enough to buy a penny sweet let alone have a car >fixed!)) Ford Timelord dissapeared long before they burnt the money, the banger race was in 1992. Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thorne, Chris" Subject: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 04 Dec 1998 13:08:00 -0500 >> This is often said but the car they used at the Banger Racing was a mock up >> (it was a Chevy Caprice) so the fate of Ford Timelord is a mystery. > >Which car was dropped off a cliff after Bill & Jimmy signed a >contract on it's windscreen in gold pen wasn't that ford timelord? So how hard would it to be to re-create a new car? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mazbass Subject: (klf) KLF items still for sale (and some new ones) Date: 04 Dec 1998 11:35:05 -0800 Afternoon-- The following KLF-related items are still for sale, and there are some new ones here also, if you are interested, let me know. All prices are in US dollars. KLF Disco 2000: Uptight (full pic sleeve) UK 12" 15 mint KLF brilliant: love is War remixes UK 12" 7 Mint KLF Brilliant: It's a Man's Man's remixes, Mad professor UK 12" 7 VG KLF Energy DJs compilation (lenny Dee remix of Build a Fire, Mr C) UK LP 12 VG KLF Timelords: Doctorin the Tardis CD video UK cd video 20 mint KLF JAMS: It's Grim Up North UK cd single (4 mixes) UK cd5 18 mint KLF JAMS: History of the JAMS US cd US LP 7 mint KLF Last Train to Trancentral US cd single promo remixes, US, UK, and Iron Horse versions US promo cd 12 mint KLF: Brilliant: Wait For It remixes UK 12" (maybe only Youth) 7 VG The following site has several rare remixes and 12"s from The Orb, FSOL, ZTT stuff, Pet Shop Boys, etc http://icl-server.ucsd.edu/~mazbass/odysseymusic.html Thanks for looking! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ee52kt@ee.surrey.ac.uk (Kyle M Thompson) Subject: Re: (klf) Money Date: 04 Dec 1998 20:33:11 +0000 (GMT) U>> Wasn't that like ALL HIS MONEY? U> U>No, it was all the K foundation's money - a BIG difference. erm, just to put in my ha'peth. wasn't it ALL the profit's from The KLF's records to date? . \ ` ' / . | I'll get you any deal that you like | ._` __^__ '_. | ten sweets for a mountain bike you like | [()=()] | *****http://thin-n-crispy.base.org***** | /_____\ | Kyle Thompson | justified | kylet@bigfoot.com | # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Copper's Comments" Subject: (klf) ford timelord Date: 04 Dec 1998 16:26:50 -0800 goto gimpo's site: www.t2k.net goto the report section goto photo archive second picture to the last...is that? could it be? I don't know if it's the original, but it sure looks like a Timelord to me. >what was there to say?< # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scoob Subject: (klf) Re: klf-digest V2 #161 Date: 04 Dec 1998 20:39:25 +0000 >And who did the voice of Ford Timelord on the Shag Times? ian richardson, their engineer Scoob "I'm fortunate enough not to be married to Courtney Love" - Marylin Manson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy R." Subject: Re: (klf) Money Date: 04 Dec 1998 21:31:38 +0000 Kyle M Thompson wrote: > U>> Wasn't that like ALL HIS MONEY? > U> > U>No, it was all the K foundation's money - a BIG difference. > wasn't it ALL the profit's from The KLF's records to date? That happened to be *exactly* a million quid? ...and B&J didn't spend any of the profits earlier? I think not. We may never know the full story, but consider the tax implications of setting up a chratiable trust called the K foundation (easy to get charity status if it's purpose is to fund works of art), and making a large charitable donation to it. Basically, it's still B&Js cash to spend, burn, whatever, but all the tax is reclaimable, as opposed to being chargeable at top rate if they tried to pay themselves the money. - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) ford timelord Date: 04 Dec 1998 15:43:19 -0600 -----Original Message----- From: Copper's Comments [SMTP:copper@wyht.com] Sent: Friday, December 04, 1998 6:27 PM To: klf@lists.xmission.com Subject: (klf) ford timelord goto gimpo's site: http://www.t2k.net goto the report section goto photo archive second picture to the last...is that? could it be? I don't know if it's the original, but it sure looks like a Timelord to me. I believe that is Fraud Timelord. I think it was a repainted taxi cab if I remember the reports from the M25 spin correctly. Don "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: (klf) ford timelord Date: 05 Dec 1998 00:22:36 +0100 >goto the report section > >goto photo archive > >second picture to the last...is that? could it be? > >I don't know if it's the original, but it sure looks like a Timelord to me. This is definitely NOT the original. I think its even not a ford timelord. Torsten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Glen Turpin Subject: Re: US Marshall (was Re: (klf) Drummond interview) Date: 04 Dec 1998 20:19:25 -0700 (MST) I received mine in Denver yeaterday. Excellent. Thanks Marshall. Who did the Primal Megamix? g. At 1:17 -0500 11/29/98, TheMgnt@aol.com wrote: >> BTW: I am still waiting for Marshall=B4s and Mike=B4s CDs!! > >Which leads me into tonights question: has anyone in the States received th= e >cd yet? Seems a few people got theirs a couple weeks ago, since then no on= e >has mentioned getting them. > >-paul Glen Turpin gturpin@indra.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: Re: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 05 Dec 1998 05:45:51 PST >Funnily enough Ford Timelord lead an active career in Hollywood, >starring in the Blues Brother's Movie before he joined the Jamms. It >wasn't so much that Jill and Bimmy stole the idea, but the idea stole >them, rgds > ahem, Not strictly true. Ford Timelord is NOT the car out of the Blues Brothers. It was bought from Pinewood studios, having been used in the making of Superman IV. cheers, NIk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: RE: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 05 Dec 1998 05:52:56 PST >Which car was dropped off a cliff after Bill & Jimmy signed a >contract on it's windscreen in gold pen wasn't that ford timelord? > NO! That was a 1987 Ford Bluebird, hired from some place in Scotland. It was the morning after the Glasgow screenings of WTKFBAMQ and Bill and Jimmy were depressed about the reaction they were getting to the films. In a Little Chef somewhere up North, they decided to write a contract on a vehicle and push it off Cape Wrath. They wanted to use Gimpo's hired van, but he scarpered back to London so they went and hired one. Then they phoned Paul Smith and some other witnesses and drove North. Acutally pushing the car of Fairar Head (about 10 miles up the road from Cape Wrath). INterestingly, Jimmy unscrewed the radiator cap so it would smoke on the way down. For anyone who wants to know more, see the various articles on Mancentral... There is a great bit when they are all crowded round the car ready to push and a couple walk by with a dog, so the lads have to try to look inconspicuous... cheers, NIk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: Re: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 05 Dec 1998 05:45:51 PST >Funnily enough Ford Timelord lead an active career in Hollywood, >starring in the Blues Brother's Movie before he joined the Jamms. It >wasn't so much that Jill and Bimmy stole the idea, but the idea stole >them, rgds > ahem, Not strictly true. Ford Timelord is NOT the car out of the Blues Brothers. It was bought from Pinewood studios, having been used in the making of Superman IV. cheers, NIk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: Re: (klf) New Cauty Date: 05 Dec 1998 08:29:36 PST >Very very good! I'm sure this remix will make the final release version of >Babylon. They aren't able to release all 10 re/mixes due to those stupid >bloody British single chart rules. Got a DJ copy of this thru today. Fully concur that it's quite a good mix, and one up to Jimmy. However, I understand that this mix is making the general release version (both CD1 and 12") Just to confirm the deatils (but release date tba): Title: Babylon Artist: The Black Dog featuring Ofra Haza Label: warner.esp Catalogue: WESP CD1:01: Hammurabi CD1:02: Hanging Gardens (Peter Lazonby mix) CD1:03: My Pastie Weighs A Ton (The Scourge Of The Earth mix) 12":A1: Pirate FM 12":A2: My Pastie Weighs A Ton (The Scourge Of The Earth mix) 12":B1: An Eye For An Eye (Future Loop Foundation mix) Jimmy's moniker here is "The Scourge of the Earth" So go pester your local emporium. Rgds, NIk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 05 Dec 1998 19:35:57 +0000 (GMT) > Which car was dropped off a cliff after Bill & Jimmy signed a > contract on it's windscreen in gold pen wasn't that ford timelord? No, that was another car. I think it goes into more detail in the FAQ. > > If Jimmy could afford to Burn a million quid, I'm sure he > > could have afforded to have his car fixed! > > Wasn't that like ALL HIS MONEY? (so therefore he had stlg0.00 in the > bank (not even enough to buy a penny sweet let alone have a car > fixed!)) No, it wasn't anyone's money in particular, it was the K Foundation's money. Jimmy and Bill will have made sure they were quite well off enough for the time being (their future career moves being a little uncertain at that point). Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ee52kt@ee.surrey.ac.uk (Kyle M Thompson) Subject: (klf) black tar liner Date: 06 Dec 1998 16:45:36 +0000 (GMT) are coming to my uni next year! hurrah! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: Re: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 05 Dec 1998 10:17:18 -0000 -----Original Message----- > >>> This is often said but the car they used at the Banger Racing was a mock >up >So how hard would it to be to re-create a new car? It should be easy if you could find the right car, there's a bloke round the corner from me that has a very suitable car to make a Jammsmobile. It's not a Ford Galaxy though, I think it's a Pontiac Parisienne but around the right year 68. It's matt black with a white roof and completely shagged but driveable, it's been standing unused for some months now but the bloke wont sell it! If he says YES there'll be a good replica around! Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: Re: (klf) ford timelord Date: 05 Dec 1998 10:28:43 -0000 -----Original Message----- > goto gimpo's site: http://www.t2k.net > > goto the report section > > goto photo archive > > second picture to the last...is that? could it be? > > I don't know if it's the original, but it sure looks like a Timelord >to me. > > >I believe that is Fraud Timelord. I think it was a repainted taxi cab if I >remember the reports from the M25 spin correctly. Er No, it's mine and it's definitely not a taxi cab! It's an ex U.S. police car which I bought here about 7 years ago and spent a good 2-3 years restoring, it was just about finished in time for the Spin although still waiting for its police markings, unfortunately the gearbox packed up & it only made one Lap!!! I will hopefully have a full set of magnetic KLF markings for it for SPECIAL occasions! Phil.. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kjartan Behm" Subject: (klf) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 14:01:57 -0000 Date: 06 Dec 1998 12:38:32 -0700 V1RLRkJBTVEgPw0KRHVubm8gd2hhdCB0aGF0IG9uZSBtZWFucy4uLg0KX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fDQp8IEtqYXJ0YW4gQmVobQ0KfA0KfCBtb3Bza3lA bWluZGxlc3MuY29tDQp8IGtqYXJ0YW5Ac2xhd2VrLWFzc29jaWF0ZXMuZnJlZXNlcnZlLmNv LnVrDQp8DQp8IFR1bmUgb2YgdGhlIHByZXNlbnQgbW9vbiA6DQp8IEFybWFuZCBWYW4gSGVs ZGVuIC0gIllvdSBkb24ndCBrbm93IG1lIg0KrKysrKysrKysrKysrKysrKysrKysrKysrKys rKysrKysrKysDQoNCg== # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Ashkenazi Subject: Re: (klf) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 14:01:57 -0000 Date: 06 Dec 1998 21:50:46 +0200 Hi, Kjartan Behm wrote: > WTKFBAMQ ? > Dunno what that one means... "Watch The K Foundation Burn A Million Quid". Regards, David A. =A0 -- __________________________________ I've lost the rest of my signature file on a crash... - ICQ: 13255725 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 07 Dec 1998 11:40:22 +0000 (GMT) > And who did the voice of Ford Timelord on the Shag Times? Hmm, I think it was either Richardson or Coler, actually. Just before the remix came out (ie, the Sunday before the Monday), Ford and Gary Glitter appeared on a UK Channel 4 TV program (it was called Network 7 I think - satellite dish logo) to do a bit of promotion, and Ford was talking then. I think there were other appearances of the voice of Ford. I'd imagine these were from the same voice as that committed to "Shag Times" (the UK edition that is), which was released a couple of months later. (Note that the original European "Shag Times" doesn't feature "Doctorin...", that's because it was released just before "Tardis" happened). Actually, the best answer is probably "whoever was around at the studio at the time who had the best Dagenham/Essex accent". Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav" Subject: (klf) To the person i owe 100 FRF..... Date: 07 Dec 1998 15:31:52 +0100 ..due to a recent Hard Drive Failure and format, i completely lost your details and cant quitre remember who you are :\ If you could email me as soon as possible. Cheers Xav PS: Please, only the one need apply :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis Liapis" Subject: (klf) Whatis Dub/ Stella Does Trix Date: 07 Dec 1998 09:04:07 PST Hi Listees, i found a KLF (Actually a Kings of Lower Frequency) remix of what is dub? by moody boys, the guys that worked with KLF for a while. Does anyone know if it is any good/rare? Also an apollo 440 remix on the same 12'', which shows the KLF/Apollo 40 connection discussed a few months ago on the list. Also, does anyone actually have thwe ST to Stella does Trix, allegedly produced by Jimmy? Life is... Bizzzare! Obsession? Madness.... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hvorostin 'SerH' Sergei" Subject: (klf) Bad Wisdom scans. Anyone? Date: 07 Dec 1998 11:03:50 +0300 Hi the listmembers! Just a question... ;) Could anyone perform Bad Wisdom scans and send them to me? Wants to read and translate to my native language... Thanks... :) ----- SerH. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alex Janzer Subject: (klf) Money, burned Date: 07 Dec 1998 21:18:31 +0100 Andy R. wrote: > Basically, it's still B&Js cash to > spend, burn, whatever, but all the tax is reclaimable, as opposed to > being chargeable at top rate if they tried to pay themselves the > money. In the last German interview Bill told that they had to pay about 400.000 pounds extra as tax for the burned million because they couldn't proof spending the money on any equipment or salaries. Thus it was only 'profit' and they had to pay the full tax! Regards, Alex # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Wilkinson" Subject: Re: (klf) Money, burned Date: 07 Dec 1998 23:09:21 -0000 >In the last German interview Bill told that they had to pay >about 400.000 pounds extra as tax for the burned million because >they couldn't proof spending the money on any equipment or salaries. >Thus it was only 'profit' and they had to pay the full tax! > Surely that tax would have been deducted before it found it's way into the bank? Esp as it was a good few years between making it and burning it.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michelle and Stuey Subject: Re: (klf) Money, burned Date: 08 Dec 1998 13:07:52 +1300 > >In the last German interview Bill told that they had to pay > >about 400.000 pounds extra as tax for the burned million > Surely that tax would have been deducted before it found it's way into the > bank? Esp as it was a good few years between making it and burning it.... Except that the money was donated to an arts foundation, and hence you wouldn't have to pay tax on it? Stuey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (klf) RE: (orb) Re: lfc 2 X 12 bootleg? Date: 08 Dec 1998 10:08:41 -0600 > >This pressing is on Many Records???? I don't know where the pressing was > >done. It says made in england, but I didn't hear that this was coming out > >on a different label than Island. (I have an Island pressing) Is this > >pressing rare or is it a bootleg already????? > It probably is, a record store here in the uk told me there expecting some > new pressings of it next week. So if not on Island, they could be boots? pretty safe to say that if it ain't on Island, it ain't authentic... It just goes to show that if Island would pull it's head out of it's ass and release the damn thing they could make allot money from it. Don "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tripp millican" Subject: (klf) f** the millennium 12" for sale/trade Date: 08 Dec 1998 13:49:27 PST anyone interested in a 12" copy of the 2k single? mail me offers...mainly looking for underworld, fsol, meat beat manifesto, pwei, orb and klf... tripp ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lindgren" Subject: Re: (klf) PLEASE, help me!! Date: 09 Dec 1998 07:10:19 PST Hello everybody, since the first time I heard about the below named cd I`ve tried to gotten hold of it, three people have said " Yeah - I`ll get it for you!!! ". ' Well no-one have helpeed me to get it so once again: Could someone PLEASE help me get: PAUL OAKENFOLDS "ESSENTIAL SUMMER 98`" incl KLFs WTIL. If someone could help m eget it PLEASE REPLY TO ME!!! - david _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ David Lindgren phone (+46) 026 25 95 42 Lockropsv.7 " 0709 521 512 S-811 37 Sandviken SWEDEN davli44@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy R." Subject: Re: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 09 Dec 1998 15:40:32 +0000 Ancient of Mu Mu wrote: > > > > If Jimmy could afford to Burn a million quid, I'm sure he > > > > could have afforded to have his car fixed! > > > Wasn't that like ALL HIS MONEY? > > No, it was all the K foundation's money - a BIG difference. > > So Jimmy never had any of the money from selling KLF/JAMS/Timelord > records then 'cos it was all the K Foundations? no no no, it means the k foundation only had a million quid, which was given to them by B&J, and the K foundation burnt it all. I suspect B&J also paid themselves quite hansomly out of the KLF revenues :-) B&J have not (AFAIK) ever claimed to have burn all *their* money, just all the K-foundation's - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Graphics Geezer" Subject: (klf) Compacta Update Date: 10 Dec 1998 11:30:24 +0000 GMT Sorry dudes, Just downloaded it from Mancentral (should've checked first). Ahem. MH. Senior Imaging Technician Computer Graphics Services International Convention Centre Broad Street Birmingham B1 2EA Tel: 0121 644 6085 Fax: 0121 644 6117 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Graphics Geezer" Subject: (klf) Compacta Font Date: 10 Dec 1998 11:25:22 +0000 GMT Howdo all, A while ago there was talk about which font the KLF used, and it was suggested it could be a variation on Compacta? Somebody posted a URL where a zipped font set could be downloaded, and this I duly did. But have I got it here at work? No (damn). Could somebody send me that URL off list? Hate to be a pain in the arse but I need it dead quick. Cheers MH. Senior Imaging Technician Computer Graphics Services International Convention Centre Broad Street Birmingham B1 2EA Tel: 0121 644 6085 Fax: 0121 644 6117 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ancient of Mu Mu Subject: (klf) It's NOT Grim Up North! Date: 11 Dec 1998 18:29:40 GMT+0 It definatly ain't grim up north (if you count Preston as NORTH!). HMV in Preston are currently selling what appears to be original copies of The JAMs It's Grim Up North CD. I don't think it's a bootleg as it looks all original with a silver cover and The JAMs logo on the front with the Pyramid Blaster for the A. The copyright on it says (P) & (K) 1991 KLF Communications. There are only four things which strike me as being very strange these are :- 1. The fact that HMV have about 100 copies on there shelves when I seem to remember in 1992 the KLF deleted there back catalog (i.e. anything b4 1992 so anything created in 1991 would be deleted). Unless HMV found someone with a trunk load of these CD's! (doubtful) 2. It's K 1991 yet isn't this b4 Philips introduced CD's into the home hi-fi market? 3. There is no Other info: on the CD like with Justified & Ancient there was 'Mines a 99' printed on the CD next to Other info. Instead it appears they have printed it on the CD cover as it tells about Ford Timelord. 4. On the CD it says Taken from The Black Room - Wasn't this the CD that was supposed to follow up The White Room but never did? And if so what the ***Ks going on? Could this mean they may have plans to release The Black Room at this new years party thing that someone mentioned on the list b4? And finally! Here is the truth according to It's Grim Up North about what happened to Ford Timelord as what was previously asked on the list... Having stepped from the wreckage of their 1968 Ford Galaxy American Police car Rockman Rock & Kingboy D (The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu) found their ice cream van. Heading east up over the pennine- straddling M62 (cool I live near there :-)). They pull their ice- cream van onto the hard-shoulder. Behind them to the west, they can still make out the sprawling conurbation of Greater Manchester and those surronding Lancashire (even better I live in two of those Lancs. towns, Preston & Warrington:-)) towns, proud in their decline. Any way I'm going home now to listen to i...Hang on a minute the Uni has supplied us with a CD-ROM and I've got some headphones on second thoughts I think I'll stay here and listen to it here on the Uni's electric and get on with some Uni work :-). The number of the CD is JAMS 028CD is this the usual number for It's Grim Up North? Also HMV in Preston have stacks of copies left of it and probably most HMVs in the UK (is His Masters Voice worldwide? if so possibly worldwide) will have copies.PC Doctor - PC Hardware or Software Installation Certain areas of Preston, Blackpool and Warrington e-mail PC_DOCTOR@bigfoot.com for more details or visit http://members.tripod.com/reddwarf_2/pc_doctor.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ancient of Mu Mu Subject: (klf) Happy Christmas Date: 11 Dec 1998 18:52:42 GMT+0 I'm just e-mailing everyone at the two mailing lists I'm on (KLF&Red Dwarf) to wish you a HH HH AAAA PPPPP PPPPP YY YY HH HH AA AA PP PP PP PP YY YY HHHHHH AAAAAA PPPPP PPPPP YYYY HH HH AA AA PP PP YY HH HH AA AA PP PP YY XX XX MM MM AAAA SSSSS XX XX MMM MMM AA AA SS XXXX MMMM MMMM AAAAAA SSSS XX XX MM MMMM MM AA AA SS XX XX MM MM MM AA AA SSSSS and I hope to continue e-mailing to the lists in 99. So 'make mine a 99' and have a smegging good christmas! Unfortunatly I will be away from this e-mail address until about Jan next year as this Semester is finished (apart from a presentation on Tueday!). So I won't check my e-mail again until after Xmas! Also on Tuesday I should be e-mailing them AVI's I promised everyone on the RD mailing list (if I remember to bring the cassette from Warrington!) PC Doctor - PC Hardware or Software Installation Certain areas of Preston, Blackpool and Warrington e-mail PC_DOCTOR@bigfoot.com for more details or visit http://members.tripod.com/reddwarf_2/pc_doctor.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Daw Subject: Re: (klf) It's NOT Grim Up North! Date: 11 Dec 1998 21:19:49 +0000 In message , Ancient of Mu Mu writes >2. It's K 1991 yet isn't this b4 Philips introduced CD's into the >home hi-fi market? Eh? I think you're about a decade out! More like CDs were introduced round about 1981 - I know at least that I've been buying CDs since 1983!!! -- Simon Daw simon_klf@esteem.demon.co.uk http://www.esteem.demon.co.uk/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav" Subject: (klf) Prodigy vs KLF ? Date: 12 Dec 1998 01:36:02 +0100 from Spin Online [CUT]......Prodigy sources tell us that there are no firm plans at press time for a Stateside release of The Dirtchamber Sessions (which also features mixed cuts from Ultramagnetic MCs, Public Enemy, and the KLF). Go figure ! Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Santorum Subject: Re: (klf) It's NOT Grim Up North! Date: 11 Dec 1998 19:39:30 +0000 (GMT) On Fri 11 Dec, Ancient of Mu Mu wrote: > > It definatly ain't grim up north (if you count Preston as NORTH!). > > HMV in Preston are currently selling what appears to be original > copies of The JAMs It's Grim Up North CD. > 3. There is no Other info: on the CD like with Justified & Ancient > there was 'Mines a 99' printed on the CD next to Other info. Instead > it appears they have printed it on the CD cover as it tells about > Ford Timelord. This and the other information sound the same as on the twelve inch I've got (which may have been a remix, actually...). Doesn't really prove anything. Check the (C) & (P) dates to see if they've done something like the Two Blind Mice rerelease recently. (which said 1998 for something that was exactly the same). > Any way I'm going home now to listen to i...Hang on a minute the Uni > has supplied us with a CD-ROM and I've got some headphones on second > thoughts I think I'll stay here and listen to it here on the Uni's > electric and get on with some Uni work :-). I always thought the mix with *very heavy* drums sounded best at 45 - like a mad gabba 4am stint driving a *very* long distance... best wishes, DS -- d a m a g e p e r s p e c t i v e s http://www.crespo.demon.co.uk/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Daw Subject: (klf) TWROST Date: 12 Dec 1998 15:13:52 +0000 Are there people in the UK still waiting for Marshall's TWROST CD? Or am I the only one? -- Simon Daw simon_klf@esteem.demon.co.uk http://www.esteem.demon.co.uk/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jai Subject: (klf) edinburgh gig? Date: 12 Dec 1998 16:02:01 +0000 hi, just re-subbed to the list after months and months of absence, so i dunno if this has already been mentioned, but on monday in edinburgh at the venue, i think it is, a band called JAMM are playing. does anyone know anythign about it? is it a tribute band, or just more RAW fans?? anything really cool i missed thats happened in the last 6 months?? is the kalevala album coming out soon? :) :) o a o -- Andie Upton - Client Liason - andie@orangenet.co.uk Chris Mash - Support Consultancy - c.mash@orangenet.co.uk Jamie Nelson - Web Architect - illitrate@orangenet.co.uk Technical Support Services - http://move.to/tss # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jai Subject: Re: (klf) TWROST Date: 12 Dec 1998 16:14:29 +0000 At 3:13 pm +0000 12/12/98, Simon Daw tapped out on a keyboard: >Are there people in the UK still waiting for Marshall's TWROST CD? Or >am I the only one? as far as i know, i'm also waiting, but then im not at my regular address at the moment, so i dunno for sure -- "Do you think in bubbles?" Jai Nelson jnel@atlas.co.uk - j.i.nelson@sms.ed.ac.uk illitrate Publicashions illitrate@orangenet.co.uk http://cw.orangenet.co.uk/~illitrate/ 'Some day we're all gonna die, and then we'll see who's laughing' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) It's NOT Grim Up North! Date: 11 Dec 1998 20:05:13 EST > 1. The fact that HMV have about 100 copies on there shelves when I > seem to remember in 1992 the KLF deleted there back catalog (i.e. > anything b4 1992 so anything created in 1991 would be deleted). > Unless HMV found someone with a trunk load of these CD's! (doubtful) Possible, or found in a warehouse somewhere. There was a shop I used to frequent where every once in a while something rare would pop up on the racks that had clearly been misplaced at some point. They also dated the labels which helped. > 2. It's K 1991 yet isn't this b4 Philips introduced CD's into the > home hi-fi market? eh? Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but the first cd I ever bought was in 1986, and they'd been around awhile then! White Room came out in 89! > 3. There is no Other info: on the CD like with Justified & Ancient > there was 'Mines a 99' printed on the CD next to Other info. Instead > it appears they have printed it on the CD cover as it tells about > Ford Timelord. This is the way it was released. > 4. On the CD it says Taken from The Black Room - Wasn't this the CD > that was supposed to follow up The White Room but never did? > And if so what the ***Ks going on? > Could this mean they may have plans to release The Black Room at this > new years party thing that someone mentioned on the list b4? Most bands release a single from pending albums with a "from the forthcoming..." This is also not unusual. Unfortunately the KLF had had it shortly after IGUN came out and never finished. > The number of the CD is JAMS 028CD is this the usual number for It's > Grim Up North? Yes. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) It's NOT Grim Up North! Date: 12 Dec 1998 22:16:09 +0000 (GMT) > I don't think it's a bootleg as it looks all original with a silver > cover and The JAMs logo on the front with the Pyramid Blaster for the > A. The copyright on it says (P) & (K) 1991 KLF Communications. Course it isn't a bootleg. Who would bother bootlegging a CD single, especially making it identical to the original? > 1. The fact that HMV have about 100 copies on there shelves when I > seem to remember in 1992 the KLF deleted there back catalog (i.e. > anything b4 1992 so anything created in 1991 would be deleted). > Unless HMV found someone with a trunk load of these CD's! (doubtful) Entirely possible. If the distributor was told to pull it, they may well either have not destroyed them, or just lost some. As it happens, there are a lot of copies in Manchester too, but I don't really think there's anything "sinister" behind it. > 2. It's K 1991 yet isn't this b4 Philips introduced CD's into the > home hi-fi market? Complete rubbish of course. > 3. There is no Other info: on the CD like with Justified & Ancient > there was 'Mines a 99' printed on the CD next to Other info. Instead > it appears they have printed it on the CD cover as it tells about > Ford Timelord. My original doesn't have any Other Info, but I haven't got a sleeve for it. > 4. On the CD it says Taken from The Black Room - Wasn't this the CD > that was supposed to follow up The White Room but never did? > And if so what the ***Ks going on? > Could this mean they may have plans to release The Black Room at this > new years party thing that someone mentioned on the list b4? Of course not, how on earth could you speculate that? IGUN was taken from the Black Room album. Just most of the rest of the album was never recorded/released (depending on which story you listen to). If you had the original press release from which the following story appeared, you'd see that two other titles for It's Grim Up North were "Tachograph Overload" and "128BPM And Rising" (from memory). A description of The Black Room album given about that time was Techno Metal I think. That phrase quite nicelyt describes how I imagined the album would be, based on IGUN. > Here is the truth according to It's Grim Up North about what happened > to Ford Timelord as what was previously asked on the list... > > Having stepped from the wreckage of their 1968 Ford Galaxy American > Police car Rockman Rock & Kingboy D (The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu) > found their ice cream van. Heading east up over the pennine- [...] That's not the truth, that's just a story. Means nothing. > The number of the CD is JAMS 028CD is this the usual number for It's > Grim Up North? Yes, check the discography. > Also HMV in Preston have stacks of copies left of it and probably > most HMVs in the UK (is His Masters Voice worldwide? if so possibly > worldwide) will have copies. There are certainly more in other towns. It does seem like rather a large consigment to get "found" like that, but I don't think anything much should be read into it really. Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bablos Subject: Re: (klf) TWROST Date: 13 Dec 1998 01:16:37 WET0 On 12-Dec-98, Simon Daw spewed forth the following... >Are there people in the UK still waiting for Marshall's TWROST CD? Or >am I the only one? Nah. Me too! Bablos. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jai Subject: DOH! Re: (klf) edinburgh gig? Date: 13 Dec 1998 00:42:44 +0000 At 4:02 pm +0000 12/12/98, jai tapped out on a keyboard: >but on monday in edinburgh at the >venue, i think it is, a band called JAMM are playing. >does anyone know anythign about it? is it a tribute band, or just more RAW >fans?? sorry. i'm an idiot. the gig was at the begining of november. did anyone make it? -- "Do you think in bubbles?" Jai Nelson jnel@atlas.co.uk - j.i.nelson@sms.ed.ac.uk illitrate Publicashions illitrate@orangenet.co.uk http://cw.orangenet.co.uk/~illitrate/ 'Some day we're all gonna die, and then we'll see who's laughing' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) edinburgh gig? Date: 13 Dec 1998 01:32:08 EST > if this has already been mentioned, but on monday in edinburgh at the > venue, i think it is, a band called JAMM are playing. someone on the list found a cd by JAMM awhile back. At the time I assumed they meant the Jam but apparently I was mistaken. Haven't heard anything about it or them since. And for the record, I'm still waiting in the states for TWROST. But at least I know they are finally being shipped. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALTONBARNS@aol.com Subject: Re: DOH! Re: (klf) edinburgh gig? Date: 13 Dec 1998 08:41:53 EST At 4:02 pm +0000 12/12/98, jai tapped out on a keyboard: >but on monday in edinburgh at the >venue, i think it is, a band called JAMM are playing. >does anyone know anythign about it? is it a tribute band, or just more RAW >fans?? sorry. i'm an idiot. the gig was at the begining of november. did anyone make it? >> The JAMM are a tribute band to the JAM (P.Weller). They have a national tour most months (pretty good as well!). Nothing to do with the KLF. Best Wishes Antony # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig G Earnshaw Subject: (klf) The White Room Date: 13 Dec 1998 16:03:24 -0800 Went looking in my local HMV (Oxford Street, London) for the Grim up North CD single, and found it. Doesn't look like a bootleg or anything else that isn't an original CD single (also got the correct release date on it). But, back to the point. Whilst I was in there I also spotted many copies of The White Room on US import at 10.99GBP, with a CD single attached to it (can't remember which one - JaA I Think) in a 2 CD case. bargin for anyone who hasn't got The White Room yet! Craig! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shepherd" Subject: RE: (klf) It's NOT Grim Up North! Date: 13 Dec 1998 17:42:16 -0000 > > Also HMV in Preston have stacks of copies left of it and probably > > most HMVs in the UK (is His Masters Voice worldwide? if so possibly > > worldwide) will have copies. HMV in Newcastle suddenly has about 10 copies on the KLF rack - looks like somebody's been clearing out the cellars at the HMV warehouse :-) Shep # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark reed Subject: (klf) SHAG TIMES Date: 13 Dec 1998 08:48:59 +0000 Picked up the Shag Times Cd for just 7.99 in Manchester yesterday, talk about awesome bargain!! -- mark reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Whiggy" Subject: (klf) Going, going, gone... Date: 13 Dec 1998 14:36:28 -0800 Well everybody, I have to leave the list for awhile (moving and things) but I'll be back. See you in the Land of Mu! Whiggy -><- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Campbell-Jack Subject: re : (klf) Shag Times Date: 13 Dec 1998 02:03:21 GMT How about Waiting for the rites of mu for £7 in Perth the other week in the "Promos" section > Picked up the Shag Times Cd for just 7.99 in Manchester yesterday, talk > about awesome bargain!! -- HCJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jai Subject: Re: (klf) The White Room Date: 14 Dec 1998 02:28:04 +0000 At 4:03 pm -0800 13/12/98, Craig G Earnshaw tapped out on a keyboard: >But, back to the point. Whilst I was in there I also spotted many >copies of The White Room on US import at 10.99GBP, with a CD single >attached to it (can't remember which one - JaA I Think) in a 2 CD case. >bargin for anyone who hasn't got The White Room yet! i think HMV have some kind of deal with TVT in the states, because there is always at least one copy of either this WR/J&A combo or the history of the Jamms in most of their shops. ..jai... -- Andie Upton - Client Liason - andie@orangenet.co.uk Chris Mash - Support Consultancy - c.mash@orangenet.co.uk Jamie Nelson - Web Architect - illitrate@orangenet.co.uk Technical Support Services - http://move.to/tss # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pieter gieszen <1018848@ibk.fnt.hvu.nl> Subject: (klf) KLF item for sale: "HELP" Date: 14 Dec 1998 10:02:53 +0100 For sale: 828 682-2 HELP (comp. CD feat. "The Magnificent" by the One World Orchestra) It's 20 ukp but I prefer trade for the following items: KLF 010CD KSTJ ASCD-2230 3AME ASCD-2365 WTIL ARISTA 12366-2 A:WTIL INT 825.912 LTTT (The KLF Meets The Moody Boys Uptown) btw if anybody got a copy of the above 5 cds for sale but ain't interested in the HELP cd, mail me. thankz PG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Niko Tzoukmanis Subject: Re: (klf) TWROST Date: 14 Dec 1998 18:12:18 +0100 well keep in mind: 'SOONER THAN CHRISTMAS' haha ! Bablos wrote: > > On 12-Dec-98, Simon Daw spewed forth the following... > > >Are there people in the UK still waiting for Marshall's TWROST CD? Or > >am I the only one? -- Niko Tzoukmanis URL: http://wwwhoppe.math.uni-augsburg.de/~tzoukman 'chicken noodle soup is nutritious' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Abel Subject: (klf) see you guys Date: 14 Dec 1998 15:38:40 +0000 moving jobs so i'm gonna havbe to sign off for a while been good, see you guys Dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Graphics Geezer" Subject: (klf) Vinyl Bargains Date: 14 Dec 1998 15:39:59 +0000 GMT On the subject of bargains... I was in London with my house mate the weekend before last, and he picked up a mint condition White Room (on vinyl and KLF Communications) for the princely sum of 8.50 UKP from Reckless Records second hand spot. Just over the alley in Sister Ray they had a knackered one of the same for 12 quid. As the guy in Sister Ray commented... "They [Reckless Records] just couldn't have known what they'd got." For anyone else interested, they also had a few 12" vinyl singles and a Pure Trance 1 12". MH. Senior Imaging Technician Computer Graphics Services International Convention Centre Broad Street Birmingham B1 2EA Tel: 0121 644 6085 Fax: 0121 644 6117 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John \"J.T.\" Thomas" Subject: (klf) TWROST Date: 14 Dec 1998 08:58:21 -0900 I live in the states, and I am still waiting for the two copies I ordered as well! John "J.T." Thomas [odbo] [grimjack] [Grendel Khan] ICQ's: 15817221 (Home) -- 934877 (Work) normal email: jt@gci.net eternal email: odbo@acm.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeremiah \"Spassvogel\" Rickert" Subject: (klf) brooklyn ny Date: 14 Dec 1998 19:14:30 -0800 (PST) Are there any URL's that have this in MP3 or MP2 format? I don't know how I did it, but I seem to have erased mine... thanks in advance... jr Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ancient of Mu Mu Subject: Re: (klf) It's NOT Grim Up North! Date: 15 Dec 1998 11:17:35 GMT+0 > > Also HMV in Preston have stacks of copies left of it and probably > > most HMVs in the UK (is His Masters Voice worldwide? if so possibly > > worldwide) will have copies. > > There are certainly more in other towns. > > It does seem like rather a large consigment to get "found" like > that, but I don't think anything much should be read into it really. It's also strange how HMV are finding large consignments of other KLF singles/albums recently i.e. Justified & Ancient, IGUN, The White Room and The White Room & Justified & Ancient in one pack as now thanks to HMV I am building up a nice big collection of KLF trax really cheaply :-) PC Doctor - PC Hardware or Software Installation Certain areas of Preston, Blackpool and Warrington e-mail PC_DOCTOR@bigfoot.com for more details or visit http://members.tripod.com/reddwarf_2/pc_doctor.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ancient of Mu Mu Subject: Re: (klf) The White Room Date: 15 Dec 1998 11:25:28 GMT+0 > But, back to the point. Whilst I was in there I also spotted many > copies of The White Room on US import at 10.99GBP, with a CD single > attached to it (can't remember which one - JaA I Think) in a 2 CD case. > bargin for anyone who hasn't got The White Room yet! That's been in HMV for months now. Unfortunatly I bought J&A and The White Room seperatly for stlg15 (s/h) from a market in Preston just b4 HMV released them! But it can't be as bad as buying a s/h PSX for stlg100 a week b4 Sony reduces the new ones to stlg99.99 (yep I did that...and then blew it up trying to modify it (oops)) PC Doctor - PC Hardware or Software Installation Certain areas of Preston, Blackpool and Warrington e-mail PC_DOCTOR@bigfoot.com for more details or visit http://members.tripod.com/reddwarf_2/pc_doctor.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf From: Richard Hopkins Subject: Re: (klf) TWROST Date: 15 Dec 1998 11:58:44 +0000 I'm still waiting here in the UK too. Marshall/Erik.....any chance of an update? Richard Hopkins Acting Section Head of Registry Information Systems Unit University of Wolverhampton E-mail in4167@mail.wlv.ac.uk Tel 01902 322535/323774 Fax 01902 322528 WWW http://www.wlv.ac.uk/~in4167/Welcome.html He who sacrifices his conscience to ambition burns a picture to obtain the ashes. - Chinese Proverb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) It's NOT Grim Up North! Date: 15 Dec 1998 08:22:34 EST > It's also strange how HMV are finding large consignments of other KLF > singles/albums recently i.e. Justified & Ancient, IGUN, The White > Room and The White Room & Justified & Ancient in one pack as now > thanks to HMV I am building up a nice big collection of KLF trax > really cheaply :-) Actually the WR/J&A double pack has been standard issue in the States for quite some time. I'm sure it's still in print (not that I check the KLF bin much anymore at my local chain store) so really you're just getting the import. Be curious to know if it's the Eruo or American version included. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) TWROST Date: 15 Dec 1998 08:25:13 EST > I'm still waiting here in the UK too. > > Marshall/Erik.....any chance of an update? It might be worth mentioning/speculating that with the Christmas mail rush on packages will most likely be delayed and, perhaps, Marshall has stopped shipping for a bit to catch up on their own Christmas doings. But to be honest, I had to order a cd online and surprisingly it came the next day via basic US post. So they can't be all that bogged down... -paul two years and still waiting... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jai Subject: Re: (klf) TWROST Date: 15 Dec 1998 15:33:52 +0000 At 08:25 AM 12/15/98 EST, TheMgnt@aol.com wrote: >> I'm still waiting here in the UK too. >> Marshall/Erik.....any chance of an update? >-paul >two years and still waiting... but we can't really be all that disapointed can we? i mean, all this waiting, it is what the klf is all about isn't it? so the spirit of the band lives on!!! :) :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mr christopher david gilmour Subject: (klf) JAMes gig in Glasgow Date: 15 Dec 1998 12:59:57 +0000 Is the chap who was at the James gig in Glasgow last night, who wore a KLF 1987, a list member? rgds Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Subject: (klf) KLF in MUZIK No. 44 Date: 15 Dec 1998 19:47:22 +0100 In the Uppers&Downers section of MUZIK No.44 January 1999 on Page 16 there is something written about The KLF: "Downers: The KLF continuing to think people care about their superannuated situationist hi-jinks. Just fuck off." OhOh, that was a nice one :-( cheers, Michael -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> ***K THE MILLENNIUM - WE WANT IT NOW << http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/1353/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: illitrate Publicashions Subject: praise be to HMV & Re: (klf) It's NOT Grim Up North! Date: 15 Dec 1998 18:57:59 +0000 well, seeing as everyone is singing HMVs priases at the moment, i checked out my local one and found the best of Zodiac Mindwarp and the Love Reaction in there for 7 quid. bizzare huh? and At 8:22 am -0500 15/12/98, TheMgnt@aol.com tapped out on a keyboard: >Actually the WR/J&A double pack has been standard issue in the States for >quite some time. I'm sure it's still in print (not that I check the KLF bin >much anymore at my local chain store) so really you're just getting the >import. Be curious to know if it's the Eruo or American version included. well, because i haven't got anything better to do with my money at the moment i bought it. its an artista release and its the american verison. so no crowd noise between the first 3 songs. is it just me, or is Make It Rain missing the "say yeah" samples too? so how come there is crowd noise on 3AM?? isn't it the same U2 sample? and Church sounded well ***ked up right there at the end.... but it may just be that i haven't heard it for ages. was very wierd to hear the single version of LTTT afterwards though. took me ages to work out how to get to the single of J&A aswell. i am a dunce! it appears to be a very cheap thing though, cos the back inlay card is just the single cover crammed and schrunched into the tray. odd. its not the uk single either. the LP version of J&A is track 3 and the 4th track is All Bound For Mu Mu land, not.... whatever it is on the UK single (which is at home so i can't check). Well... I know have at least 5 copies of The White Room on various formats, just need someone to offically publish it on DAT and MD now I guess. :) :) ________ -- --- _________ / / / "This concludes our broadcast day.. \ \ \ /__/ / / ...click" \__\ \ \ / / __/ \ \ __\ / / / illitrate Publicashions Lymatid \ \ \ / / / http://cw.orangenet.co.uk/~illitrate/ \ \ \ /__/__/ \__\__\ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "sCt" Subject: (klf) Re: praise be to HMV Date: 15 Dec 1998 11:05:07 -0800 >well, seeing as everyone is singing HMVs priases at the moment, i checked >out my local one and found the best of Zodiac Mindwarp and the Love >Reaction in there for 7 quid. bizzare huh? Excuse my American ignorance, but what the hell is an HMV? Sounds like a venereal disease. Is this a chain of stores in the UK? Do they mailorder? It sounds to me like if they were online, they could flush some serious inventory..... I also hear alot of talk about FOPP, another chain or a warehouse? Just so I don't feel stupid, what are the acronyms? Later, -Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alex Subject: Re: (klf) Re: praise be to HMV Date: 15 Dec 1998 14:12:29 -0500 (EST) > Excuse my American ignorance, but what the hell is an HMV? Rather large music store. There're a shitload in Canada, and a fairly large number in the US too (mostly in the bigger cities). I don't know if they do mailorder at all. I think that HMV stands for 'Her/His Majesty's Vinyl', but that might just be another of those urban legends. HMV is actually the name of the store. Ae. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) Re: praise be to HMV Date: 15 Dec 1998 19:21:52 +0000 (GMT) > I think that HMV stands for 'Her/His Majesty's Vinyl', but that might > just be another of those urban legends. HMV is actually the name of > the store. His Master's Voice. Their logo is a dog listening to the first gramophone and recording (or maybe wax cylinder, who knows), hearing the voice of his master who had invented it coming out of a speaker (and looking very puzzled). www.hmv.co.uk Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ewen Roberts" Subject: RE: (klf) Re: praise be to HMV Date: 15 Dec 1998 19:21:35 -0000 It's "His Masters Voice", although they trade as HMV. Their logo, and mascot is a small dog listening to a gramophone. They do mail order, although I don't know if they export. Their website is at: http://www.hmv.co.uk/ There are HMV shops in most UK towns and cities. Including one dangerously close to where I work... UN > > > > > Excuse my American ignorance, but what the hell is an HMV? > Rather large music store. There're a shitload in Canada, and a fairly > large number in the US too (mostly in the bigger cities). > > I don't know if they do mailorder at all. > > I think that HMV stands for 'Her/His Majesty's Vinyl', but that might > just be another of those urban legends. HMV is actually the name of > the store. > > Ae. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALTONBARNS@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Re: praise be to HMV......NO WAY! Date: 15 Dec 1998 14:44:00 EST > > Excuse my American ignorance, but what the hell is an HMV? I know of plenty of HMV stores that have set up in town centres (UK)......causing other local INDEPENDENT record shops to close. This means that certain bands releases are no longer available as HMV are just not interested in stocking them - Locust, Hydroplane, Low, Field Mice, Trembling Blue Stars, Mojave 3, Seefeel, Scala, Bowery Electric, Flying Saucer Attack, AMP, Transient Waves and many, many more. Ggrrrrrr I hate HMV/Tower/Our Price etc........ Ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) TWROST Date: 16 Dec 1998 00:26:10 -0000 > Are there people in the UK still waiting for Marshall's TWROST CD? Or > am I the only one? Nope, I'm still waiting too... Simon Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shepherd" Subject: RE: (klf) Re: praise be to HMV Date: 15 Dec 1998 20:42:16 -0000 > I also hear alot of talk about FOPP, another chain or a warehouse? You're not thinking of TOTP are you? :-) If so, its a common abbreviation for "Top of the Pops", a TV music show that's been running in the UK for about a thousand years (hence the crap retro name!) Shep. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Angiello" Subject: Introduction and Re: (klf) TWROST Date: 15 Dec 1998 23:58:35 -0500 Hi everyone, An introduction: I used to be on the list for a while around '93 or so, when it was KLF/Orb and I had to drop off due to too much volume. Then I was on for a while later; once again dropping off because of too much volume and not enough time. I'm trying yet again. So far it's going okay. Doubtless no one remembers me, and that's okay. I love everything directly KLF-oriented, but particularly I love love love The JAMs and Bill's solo record--I hope (I'm sure) I'm not the only one that doesn't dismiss this as bad country or hokey or whatever... I have just about finished reading The Illuminatus! Trilogy for the first time and have also just started reading Bad Wisdom (I tried to wait until I was done with the Illuminatus! appendices, but I couldn't). Some of my other loves include Cathal Coughlan/The Fatima Mansions, Leonard Cohen, Pop Will Eat Itself and Deborah Harry/Blondie. I also love the Spice Girls. I was going to drone on further, but I think I'll cut the bio short here. > > > I'm still waiting here in the UK too. > > > > Marshall/Erik.....any chance of an update? > > It might be worth mentioning/speculating that with the Christmas mail rush on > packages will most likely be delayed and, perhaps, Marshall has stopped > shipping for a bit to catch up on their own Christmas doings. If y'all would be so kind (and I HAVE noticed you're not always so kind when questions are asked that could have been answered with web resources, so hopefully this does not fall into that category), would you mind explaining what everyone is talking about? Some kind of rarities disc? I haven't been able to figure out what TWROST stands for. Sorry. Please don't lambast me. Love, Jim P.S. Oh yeah, I'm currently stationed in Astoria, New York City, USA. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) Re: praise be to HMV Date: 16 Dec 1998 09:47:25 +0000 (GMT) > > I also hear alot of talk about FOPP, another chain or a warehouse? > > You're not thinking of TOTP are you? :-) Nah, Fopp Recrods is a place that has a few stores, mainly in Scotland with a couple around northern England. Odd things appear there from time to time too. Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ee52kt@ee.surrey.ac.uk (Kyle M Thompson) Subject: Re: (klf) Re: praise be to HMV Date: 16 Dec 1998 12:22:46 +0000 (GMT) U>I think that HMV stands for 'Her/His Majesty's Vinyl', but that might it's His Master's Voice, you fool. happy christmas kyle # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Olsson Subject: Re: Introduction and Re: (klf) TWROST Date: 16 Dec 1998 15:07:43 +0100 (MET) > would you mind explaining what everyone is talking about? Some > kind of rarities disc? I haven't been able to figure out what > TWROST stands for. Sorry. Please don't lambast me. > TWROST (The White Room Original Sound Track) is a compilation disk and it was supposed to be delivered together with LSOM II (Lost Sounds Of Mu, volume 2) almost 2(?) years ago. There is some irritation among those who has ordered the disks due to the delays (but some of the delays can be blamed on misfortunes like the master CD getting lost in the mail and a whole pressing of disks being confiscated by customs and destroyed). This project was started by some listmembers a couple of years ago and the disks are professionally pressed. This series includes the following disks: LSOM I, LSOM II and TWROST. I think other listmembers can fill on any info I have forgot to mention or correct any errors. /John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Attila \"BooyT\" Bujtas" Subject: Re: Introduction and Re: (klf) TWROST Date: 16 Dec 1998 15:27:00 +0100 > > >> would you mind explaining what everyone is talking about? Some >> kind of rarities disc? I haven't been able to figure out what >> TWROST stands for. Sorry. Please don't lambast me. >> >TWROST (The White Room Original Sound Track) is a compilation disk and it was >supposed to be delivered together with LSOM II (Lost Sounds Of Mu, volume 2) >almost 2(?) years ago. > >There is some irritation among those who has ordered the disks due to the delays >(but some of the delays can be blamed on misfortunes like the master CD getting >lost in the mail and a whole pressing of disks being confiscated by customs and >destroyed). > >This project was started by some listmembers a couple of years ago and the disks >are professionally pressed. This series includes the following disks: > >LSOM I, LSOM II and TWROST. > >I think other listmembers can fill on any info I have forgot to mention or >correct any errors. > > >/John What if I wanna order them now??? How could I order it??? Is it possible??? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Wilkinson" Subject: Re: (klf) TWROST Date: 16 Dec 1998 00:44:57 -0000 IDEA: Can a willing candidate be found to knock up a web page of who is still waiting for which cds, and who has got theirs, and when, then people can inform the web-page owner of updates when it arrives etc etc, and keep this sort of mail off the list - that way, anyone who cares, can go look instead of ask Dan > >> Are there people in the UK still waiting for Marshall's TWROST CD? Or >> am I the only one? > >Nope, I'm still waiting too... > >Simon Coward > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jai Subject: (klf) the wicker man Date: 16 Dec 1998 21:45:22 +0000 dunno if anyone is still interested in the wicker man, but tonite on BBC1 there is a show about it all at 10.05 or 10.15 or somethign. i wanna watch it, but don't know if i can drag myself away from the CNN fun of showing empty skies over bagdad all night, and watching their presenters crap themselves everytime the air raid siren goes off. sorry this is so little notice, forgot to send it yesturday -- --- "Do you really think you're going to live forever?" she asked him once. "If not," he said, "I'll die trying." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: Introduction and Re: (klf) TWROST Date: 16 Dec 1998 17:00:35 EST > I haven't been able to figure out what > TWROST stands for. Sorry. Please don't lambast me. The White Room Original Soundtrack. A bootleg of the WR Demos. Part of a series of KLF bootlegs you may recall lenghty conversations about creating in the past. Same tracks/different quality can be downloaded in mp3 format from http://klf.juniorboy.com/ And for those not yet aware, you can order How to Have a Number One the Easy Way by the Timelords and Drummond's The Annual and From the Shores on Lake Placid at http://www.ellipsis.com/ -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David.Mann@student.shu.ac.uk (David Mann) Subject: Re(2): (klf) Re: praise be to HMV Date: 16 Dec 1998 20:38:49 +0000 > >> > I also hear alot of talk about FOPP, another chain or a warehouse? >> >> You're not thinking of TOTP are you? :-) > >Nah, Fopp Recrods is a place that has a few stores, mainly in >Scotland with a couple around northern England. > >Odd things appear there from time to time too. > >Culf. > there's one in sheff, tiny little thing, that claims to have lots of trendy music at a couple of quid less than hmv etc never really looked... like i said, tis a trendy place # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reed Subject: (klf) detritus Date: 16 Dec 1998 18:18:28 -0500 (EST) A web site and group of people interested in recycled media and culture, sampled stuff, etc. can be found at http://www.detritus.net. They include among their collection 1987 mp3s, John Oswald stuff, Negativlands' U2, and lots of good reading. Check it out! rh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: (klf) General info about TWROST, LSOM and Marshall Date: 17 Dec 1998 04:44:59 +0100 OK, ppl have been asking for this info so I dug out an old mail from Marshall... Cheers! //FRiD ----FWD:ED MAIL FROM THAT MARSHALL-CHARACTER---- <<>> >Copies of these discs are still available for $20.00 each. > >Lost Sounds of Mu Vol. 1 >Lost Sounds of Mu Vol. 2 >1987 / What The Fuck Is Going On >The White Room OST > >TRACK LISTINGS > > >1987 / WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON > >01. Me Ru Con >02. The Queen And I >03. All You Need Is Love >04. Next >05. Hey Hey We Are Not The Monkeys >06. Don't Take Five )Take What You Want) >07. Rockman Rock Parts 2 And 3 > > >THE LOST SOUNDS OF MU: VOL. I > >01. 3 A.M. Eternal (Original) >02. Justified And Ancient (Anti A Cappella Mix) >03. What Time Is Love? (Acid Mix) >04. Feel This [Discotech 2000] >05. Kylie Said Harder >06. What Time Is Love? (Virtual Reality Mix) >07. Madrugada Eterna (Club Mix) >08. 3 A.M. Eternal (Moody Boy) >09. Mars [SPACE] >10. What Time Is Love? (Live Version) >11. What Goes On? (Ambient Mix Part 3) >12. It's Grim Up North (Omsk Mix) [The JAMMs] > > >THE LOST SOUNDS OF MU: VOL. II > > 1 3 PM Electro > 2 I Gotta CD (7" Edit) > 3 Gary In The Tardis (Minimal) > 4 Kylie In A Trance (Remix) > 5 So Hard (KLF vs. PSB) > 6 It Must Be Obvious (Ufo Mix) > 7 Policy Of Truth (Trancentral mix) > 8 Justified & Ancient (Demo MKII) > 9 Last Train To Trancentral (Razormaid Mix) >10 January What Time Is Love >11 3 AM Eternal (Live At The Brits) >12 K Cera Cera (War Is Over If You Want It) > > >THE WHITE ROOM: ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK > >1. KSTJ (edit) >2. 3 am Eternal >3. Go to Sleep >4. Make it Rain >5. Church of the KLF >6. No More Tears >7. Build a Fire >8. Lovers Side >9. The White Room >10. Born Free >11. WTIL (Monster Mix) >12. Madrugada Eterna >13. Primal Megamix >14. Kylie Said Trance >15. Kylie Said Trance (Extended) > >******************************************************************* > >Postage rates are for up to 7 discs. >(Ordering more? Please double the postage.) > >U.S.A = $3.00 >Europe & Canada = $5.00 >Pacific Rim = $6.00 >All others = $7.00 > >That's it! Add up your order, send me an e-mail reserving your order >and send >off your payment. >Please make payment in cash or money order only. >I have had problems with bank transfers and a check. Sorry. :) > >Also BE SURE to include a shipping address and your e-mail address so I >can >get in touch with you if necessary! :) > >My address is: > >Marshall Dickson >2521 Oakrill Rd. >Marietta, GA 30062 >USA Mattias Frid "People say: 'Just read the Framtidsv. 4:313 facts!' Well, I've read them, S-35252 Vaxjo and you can have them back!" SWEDEN - Bill Drummond, The Man - mfrsv95@student.hv.se http://www.student.hv.se/home/mfrsv95/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Attila \"BooyT\" Bujtas" Subject: (klf) Marshall Dickson Date: 17 Dec 1998 10:58:29 +0100 Please somebody tell me Marshall Dickson=B9s Email address... Thank You! BooyT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark reed Subject: (klf) Kylie/Jason Date: 17 Dec 1998 04:48:44 +0000 Bought Kylie Said To Jason remix 12" KLF10R today (Trans Kylie EXpress/Kylie In A Trance/Kylie Said harder) in the KLF logo sleeve. The A-side sounds like the standard 12" mix, not the Trance Kylie Express on the b of the 7"... what's going on? Is this owrth anything? -- mark reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: Re: (klf) General info about TWROST, LSOM and Marshall Date: 17 Dec 1998 12:56:03 PST >OK, ppl have been asking for this info so I dug out an old >mail from Marshall... >Cheers! >//FRiD > If only we could dig out Marshall as well... :] [smirk] NIk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Juraj Pilka Subject: (klf) 99 Date: 18 Dec 1998 03:25:25 +0100 (CET) o o \___/ (o o) +----------------------------oOO----(_)----OOo--------------------------------+ | | | Heya Dear FRIEND ! ;-) | | I WISH YOU | | /\ MERRY CHRISTMAS | | /* \ AND | | /__ *__\ HAPPY NEW YEAR 1999 | | / \ | | /* * \ | | /___ * _*_\ . | | / *\ . * * . | | / * * \ _ _ _ _ | | / * * \ * |_)|_ (_|(_| . | | /___*___ *____*__\ . | | _| _| | | || . . | | __||__ * . * . . * | | | | . . *. . * | | Rene - KLF * * | | Oooo. | | .oooO ( ) | +------------------------------( )----) /-----------------------------------+ \ ( (_/ \_) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John.C.S.Quel" Subject: Re: (klf) the wicker man Date: 17 Dec 1998 19:22:43 +0000 jai writes >dunno if anyone is still interested in the wicker man, but tonite on BBC1 >there is a show about it all at 10.05 or 10.15 or somethign. This article recently appeared in The Sunday Times on December 6 1998 The movie moguls strangled The Wicker Man at birth, but 25 years on it is widely regarded as the finest film made in Britain, says Allan Brown Pagans' progress - Behind the sacrificial myth The publicity blurb that accompanied The Wicker Man's release into British cinemas 25 years ago this month said it best: "They do things differently on Summerisle." They lure upstanding police sergeants off the distant mainland with rumours of a teenage girl who has mysteriously vanished. They provoke the "Christian copper" with midnight orgies on the village green and confound him with contradictory accounts of the girl's fate. And then they declare that everything has been a fiction. The hunter is really the hunted. The crops have failed and the newly revealed pagans of Summerisle require a blood sacrifice. On a hilltop stands the terrifying wicker man, a 60ft human effigy used, say the legends, by Celtic druids to imprison and burn those they offered to the gods. As the flames rise and Sergeant Neil Howie of the West Highlands constabulary screams his own last rites, the natives of Summerisle far below him dance and sing, secure in the conviction that the old gods have been appeased. Huh, you're saying, just an average Saturday in Stornoway. There is little, however, about The Wicker Man that is average, easy, precedented or predictable. If British cinema is a production plant of the mediocre, churning out modest slices of whimsy and social realism, then The Wicker Man is a mis-shape, shop-soiled, fire-damaged goods. Like a strange, deadpan amalgam of Brigadoon and Rosemary's Baby, The Wicker Man blends ripe eroticism with theological debate, folksy frolics with Presbyterian frigidity, to produce a film that forensically examines Scotland's religious and cultural bi-polarity, its vascillation between the celebratory Celtic traditions and the empirical iciness of Calvinism. In America, where The Wicker Man has always found a fanatical audience, it is known as "the Citizen Kane of horror movies" but at home it remains the freak that British cinema history tried - and failed - to keep locked in the West Wing. Made on a shoestring budget, threatened with closure during production, then slashed to ribbons on its release, The Wicker Man suffered enough to allow its makers some insight into how its hero felt on that hillside. Edward Woodward, who played Howie, remembers that "when we were filming The Wicker Man, we all thought it was so good, it would be the making of our careers". But it was not to be: the film was denied a proper release, eventually limping into cinemas only as a support feature to the inferior Don't Look Now. Subsequently, 20 crucial minutes of footage disappeared in some anonymous cutting room. When the movie went to Cannes, a full-size wicker man was erected on the Croisette - but the print of the film went missing. Back in Britain, Christopher Lee, who played the charmingly sinister Lord Summerisle, and director Robin Hardy tried to cultivate an audience by offering to buy tickets for film critics. It was too little, too late. The Wicker Man was quietly buried and sold to a tax shelter company in America, the directors of which were later jailed for obtaining films fraudulently. In 1977, the National Enquirer reported that Rod Stewart hoped to buy the film's negative and burn it to avoid the public seeing his then girlfriend Britt Ekland as Willow the barmaid, nakedly tempting the uptight, virginal Howie. Stewart planned to burn The Wicker Man forever. He denied the rumour in a recent interview. "But yes," laughs Hardy today, "there does seem to have been some kind of curse around The Wicker Man. That's what happens when you meddle with the dark forces, I suppose." If there ever was a curse around The Wicker Man it has obviously lifted in recent years, for the film has undergone an extensive rehabilitation. Two years ago, a readers' poll in Empire film magazine named it the greatest British film of all time and it has just enjoyed a nationwide cinema re-release as part of the Primal Screen season. The Wicker Man soundtrack has become a huge seller since its release this year, while this month brings issue one of Nuada, a quarterly Wicker Man magazine, and the broadcast of BBC Scotland's Ex-S documentary on the worldwide cult that surrounds the film, maintained through web sites. Later this month, the Glasgow Film Theatre hosts a Wicker Man night, a taster for the Wicker Man convention to be held in January in Dumfries and Galloway, where much of the film was shot. Canal Plus, the French company that now owns The Wicker Man, has just licensed the rights for a Hollywood remake, with talk of Liam Neeson reprising the role of the duty-bound, God-fearing sergeant. Now, even Lord Summerisle himself concedes something strange is going on. The Guinness Book of Records lists Christopher Lee as appearing in more films than any living actor and he can easily name his favourite among them. Over lunch, Lee remains the ceiling-scraping embodiment of heavy presence, speaking in a voice that seems to start somewhere around his ankles, choosing his words as if they were his next victim. Lee still carries a torch for the film, promoting it at every opportunity, pointing out that his faith in Anthony Shaffer's script was so great he deferred his fee in lieu of a slice of the profits - which never came, of course. He is particularly keen to dispel notions that The Wicker Man was another of the schlocky gothic chillers that made his name. "People call The Wicker Man a horror movie," he says, "but it isn't really, it's far more subtle and sophisticated than that. Horror is about decay; The Wicker Man is about an opposition of values, the struggle to achieve spiritual growth. Without doubt, it is the finest film I've ever been involved in. "It's a flawed masterpiece," he continues. "The film we shot was a masterpiece, but then it was messed about with, butchered almost. It's my dearest wish to find the missing footage and reassemble The Wicker Man as it should be. But I fear it's lost forever now, probably hidden in a mislabelled can, buried in an archive somewhere." Edward Woodward last set foot in the Ellangowan hotel, Creetown, 25 years ago. Back then, it doubled as The Green Man, the Summerisle pub where licensing restrictions didn't apply and the regulars hollered lusty choruses of The Landlord's Daughter into the small hours. In reality, the Ellangowan remains a quiet country pub where local trade is supplemented by a flow of Wicker Man fans from as far away as America. It is still recognisably Summerisle's den of iniquity, as Woodward, here on a tour of Wicker Man locations, can't help but notice: "My God," he jokes, "the locals are still sitting in the same places." This is the heart of what fans call "Wicker country", a mosaic of locations in southern Dumfries and Galloway. Film trickery gimmicked the fictional Summerisle out of closes in Kirkcudbright, graveyards in Anwoth, hotels in Newton Stewart and Gatehouse of Fleet and a bleak clifftop campsite on Burrow Head, Isle of Whithorn, where the wicker man was erected. Today the only remnant of the 60ft structure is a two-inch sprig poking out of the grass, yet it is a site of pilgrimage if the bottletops and cigarette ends strewn around are any indication. Cemented into a nearby cove, sheltered from the Atlantic winds, remain a set of wicker man legs, left over from a trial burning. In the Ellangowan, a showing of the film has been arranged in Woodward's honour. A fiddler plays tunes from the film; locals compare souvenirs from the time when the 80-strong production crew monopolised their world for seven weeks. Woodward casts a glance around. "This is a very strange feeling," he reflects. "It's like I stepped out for 10 minutes, 25 years passed and I came back in again." Two strapping lads in the corner appeared as schoolboy extras; Ian and Sandy Foster declined a wedding invitation to watch the orgy scene being filmed, but it was rained off; Deirdre Murray was the on-set nurse who repaired Woodward's broken toe; Jane Jackson appeared as Ekland's "bum double" when the actress refused to allow her naked behind to appear in a seduction sequence. In the places where The Wicker Man set its foot, feelings towards the film are mixed. The older set regard it much as Howie did the islanders: as a slightly seedy, somewhat unnecessary entity that gives decent folk a bad name. Those in middle age look back with embarrassment at the film's 1970s fashions, at the reminders of old flames and ill-advised hairstyles. "When I stood in for Britt Ekland," says Jackson, "I had to make sure my parents didn't find out. Now I like to keep it quiet in case my daughter gets ribbed at school." Galloway folk, though, are an unusually friendly lot; the trekkers, the pilgrims, the calls to tourist information in Dumfries are received warmly, albeit with a seam of bemusement at how this strange phenomenon fell into their lives. Memories here are long and nobody mentions The Wicker Man without recalling the Ekland Incident, when the actress arrived on location and promptly described Newton Stewart "the worst place in creation", a haven of alcoholism and illegitimacy. "Gloom and misery oozed out of the furniture," she added. The full panoply of civic derision was unleashed and the skirmish made the national papers. Newton Stewart provost Archie Plunkett hit back first: "I saw Miss Ekland at various functions; she seemed quite capable of downing great quantities of drink." One Mr McNeil told the Galloway Gazette that "the best thing for her would be to have her bottom spanked". Eventually Peter Snell of British Lion, the film's producer, issued an apology on Ekland's behalf. "Mind you," says Frank Ryan, a local journalist, "I saw her unveil a statue at Gretna Green last year and she was fine, so maybe she has matured." Today, the British Lion logo has been proudly reinstated on the door of Snell's office at the Pinewood studio complex. A fixture of the British cinema scene since 1917, British Lion was churning out film versions of television sit-coms when writer Anthony Shaffer, Christopher Lee and director Robin Hardy approached Snell with the idea for a quirky, low-budget thriller, set in Scotland. Snell was hooked; The Wicker Man went before the cameras in October, 1972. As production neared its end, however, Snell was sacked and replaced by two managing directors who declared they wanted no part of The Wicker Man. "Fairly common politics in the film industry," says Lee. "The new men come in and make themselves look big by rubbishing the work of their predecessor." When Lee, however, smuggled a print into France and the film took the Grand Prix du Film Fantastique at the Paris Film Festival, British Lion capitulated, releasing the film as a B-feature, albeit savagely edited. And there it foundered, passed from one uninterested holding company to another, until Hardy attempted to assemble a definitive print in the late 1970s. Sections of the film had disappeared entirely, but a near-complete version was achieved and released into American art house cinemas. The results were instantaneous. "I was passing a theatre in San Francisco," says Snell. "There were queues round the block, people standing three deep. I asked someone, 'What's on?' 'The Wicker Man,' the guy said. 'Ever heard of it?' " Now, 25 years on, what accounts for The Wicker Man's deathless popularity? "The writing," says Woodward. "It was all on the page. Shaffer simply wrote a wonderful script." Lee concurs: "It was a very serious production, about gravely serious issues" - a remark that hints at why history has vindicated the film. To its 1970s audience, The Wicker Man probably felt like a singles' night in a folk club but the contemporary viewer is better placed to appreciate its strangely clairvoyant quality. Clairvoyant in the sense that the issues at the film's heart have become more pressing in the years since production, particularly Christianity's battering by the rise of non-orthodox neo-faiths. Yet at the film's heart is the contention that all religions are mere social constructs, devoid of any true moral authority. Howie dies pointlessly, the islanders pray for a harvest that may never come - all is a matter of blind, never-resolved faith. When you remember that Britain's church leaders managed to orchestrate a nationwide ban of Life of Brian for its mild heresies in 1978, you realise how unpalatable The Wicker Man's message must have been. Conflicts between science and religion, between men and women, between the civilising power of the urban and the brutality of nature also animate the film, augmenting the fast sex and creepy blankness that guarantees any movie cult status. The Wicker Man, however, remains the cult of cults, a film truly ahead of its time, and one whose memory will burn for years yet. Taking his leave from the Ellangowan hotel, Woodward struggles to accept his strange fate: "It's weird, you do a film, it's just a job, you forget about it, and that's usually that. But there's something about The Wicker Man that's different. It keeps coming back, keeps lodging in your brain. There has never been anything like it and there won't be again." Ex-S: The Wicker Man: BBC Scotland, Wednesday, December 16, 10.05pm Allan Brown's book, Think What You're Doing: Inside the Wicker Man, is published next year by Pan Macmillan Behind the sacrificial myth In 1979, Robin Hardy and Christopher Lee embarked on a gruelling American tour to publicise their restored version of The Wicker Man. "The amazing thing," Hardy recalls, "was that we'd visit these evangelical ministers in the deep South expecting to make a vigorous defence of the film, expecting them to condemn this horrible little movie about the murder of a devout Christian. And they loved it! "One said it expressed perfectly the essence of martyrdom. Then the same thing when we visited the pagans or the druids; they felt the film put their case very well, like the scene where Howie asks Summerisle how he can uphold this pagan mumbo-jumbo, how could he ignore Christ, and Summerisle says, 'Himself the son of a virgin impregnated by a ghost'. They just adored that."Your average pagan, however, is less whoopsy-doo about the film's contention that their Celtic and druid ancestors sacrificed hapless citizens in huge human effigies. The legend was first recorded by Julius Caesar in his account of the Gallic wars. No other ancient author confirmed the account, although it is thought that wicker men, sans victims, were used as offerings to the gods. Caesar was trying to wipe the druids out at the time and was constantly appealing to the people of Rome for more money to run his war. It's now widely held that he invented the sacrificial element; the Greeks and Romans wished to make the Celts to seem as barbaric as possible, and the legend was given legs by scholars who based their accounts on rumour. Philip Carr-Gomm, who has written on Celtic myths, points out that if a huge, anthropomorphic wicker work was built and stuffed full of people, the basketry would burn so quickly that the structure would quickly collapse. "Even in the modern day," he says, "it takes a crematorium many hours to reduce a human body to ashes. If these mass immolations were as common as Caesar would have us believe, where are the mounds of bones and ashes, where is the archeological evidence? It simply does not exist." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Subject: Re: (klf) Re: praise be to FOPP Date: 18 Dec 1998 08:47:09 +0000 (GMT) > > > > I also hear alot of talk about FOPP, another chain or a warehouse? > > > > You're not thinking of TOTP are you? :-) > > Nah, Fopp Recrods is a place that has a few stores, mainly in > Scotland with a couple around northern England. > > Odd things appear there from time to time too. > > Culf. There's a FOPP here in Leamington Spa and I've got the Waiting CD from them and they currently have loads- I mean loads of the Doctor-in-the-Tardis CD singles for 2.99. -Ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Waters" Subject: (klf) The Black Room Date: 18 Dec 1998 10:09:25 -0000 Track List ----------- The 3AM's (no vocals) I'm fucked Deep shit Bite it harder 38 The Black room Fuck the election Turn up the strobe Terminator 10 ----------- Reaction Required # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Graphics Geezer" Subject: (klf) 'Tis the season... Date: 18 Dec 1998 12:01:52 +0000 GMT ... to be unsubscribing. Just 'till the new year anyway. I was going to do this on the 23rd just to stir up some intrigue, but I just can't wait to get away! (from work). See y'all in '99 (make mine a...) Looks like it's time to... kick out the JAMMs... MH. Senior Imaging Technician Computer Graphics Services International Convention Centre Broad Street Birmingham B1 2EA Tel: 0121 644 6085 Fax: 0121 644 6117 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: (klf) Well, slap my Mu... Date: 19 Dec 1998 08:32:33 EST unusual KLF sighting. Bored with my cds I went to www.discjockey.com and am listening to their non-stop 80s dance mix and what do you know, _Jams Have a Party_ pops up! Unusual to find it mixed in with Relax and Rockit. -paul Hey! What's the deal on those tshirts? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Angiello" Subject: (klf) FAQ location Date: 19 Dec 1998 01:17:43 -0500 Hello everyone. I've got some questions which are not answered in the FAQ I found on Mancentral, but that was last updated in February 1997. Is there a more current version somewhere? I checked both links on Lazlo's page, but both are dead. My questions/points are these: 1. Bill does not play guitar on "The Man," therefore the quote in 2.015 is misleading. However I will grant you that so is the album cover. 2. Since 2/97 has anything been unearthed on Deep Shit? 3. I've got a club mix of "Madrugada Eterna" my friend burnt for me from an MP3 he found online. Any hints on figuring out whether this is the Italian (a.k.a. possibly inauthentic) mix or a definite KLF mix? Jim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John.C.S.Quel" Subject: (klf) Drummond interview - deconstructed Date: 20 Dec 1998 19:38:57 +0000 Torsten Pattberg writes >On the occasion of the release of the german "Manual" Bill Drummond made an >interview which you can read on this page: > >http://www.subaudio.net/wortfeld/bill_drummond.html > >Sorry, but it is only in german. But thanks to Altavista`s Babelfish feature here`s the (albeit rather patchy and pidgin Enlgish) translated version... http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate? That is it: Kingboy D, Justified Ancient OF MuMu, KLF, time lord, K Foundation, 2K. Geldverennung, art price, Doctorin ' The Tardis, What time Is Love, Chill Out, The one however that is (almost) all past and remains unique. Because goes only through no. And no is called: no new disk. No more music. No concert. No willless, all in question placing sentimental in former times be all besser/schlechter/aufregender internal message. Actually at all nix. Only calm, considered, appropriate thinking, writing, concerning. **time-out** cause for Bill D, the rural homeland for one day too leave, be, disappointment or ago, actual only the German translation their ' 88er lampoon " The manual " (the it for some day on our page exclusive read can). **time-out** in order here not in groundless Schwafeln and Niederbeten all Wunderbarkeiten this group expire - if it not know, then see even after - http://quality.gconnect.com/KLF /. Bill Drummond ' 98 - a large, easily bent, hochstirniger and bebrillter man. An inconspicuous, unaffektierter, friendly man. ?: Was it your decision, which book ten years later on German rauszubringen? D: Not really. It is rather a romantic thing. It was a book of its time. It came from hearts. ?: Was it already times translated? D: No. When the people called me, which shift it now, I found it easy nice to have it again in the hand in addition still on German. It does not concern to say naturally any longer, ' hey, goes raus and makes a disk ', that is meanwhile completely irrelevant. No cultural meaning, no other reason for us to place than it in the shelf. ?: It could be read also in such a way that Germany is past popkulturell so far behind England that it would make sense now here. D: Which is not correct. Popkultur and England have a natural connection. But Techno fits prima Germany. ?: Do you have a sentimental feeling at the time? D: No. I do not know exactly, why. Probably it is still too close everything, in order to be able to romantisieren it. Perhaps is it like that, if I am 60. I am much too busy with current things, in order to become sentimental. ?: Which also surprises me, it is that the book was so for a long time not available, although there was an enormous demand. D: To it we did not have interest. ?: It did not concern thus cash. D: Not at all. If it had concerned cash, we would have produced but determine an album, no book. ?: In view of the new edition the naheliegenste of all questions - could their it again make? D: I do not believe. The people always believe that, but it almost never goes. Artists, tape have their success in a certain time. The period determines, who they are and which they do. Additionally you despaired never again in such a way, so devotedly, if you are older and your success already had. ?: According to your book unemployment is a good initial position. D: Yes, everyone knows that. Everyone knows also that it becomes terrible, if those accumulates favourite tape again. ?: In addition, there are people, which to some extent succeed in positioning itself again and again again. David Bowie for example. D: May be, but it is so well impossible normally for an artist to become old within the Popkultur. Pop celebrates youth. That does not only apply to music, also to book and theatre. ?: Does Popmusik interest you at all still? D: Hardly. ?: Were there phenomena since the end of KLF within Pop, which you inspired or even surprised? D: (long break) there are again and again disks, which I like. Tape do not interest me, the music already. Otherwise it surprised me that skirt exisitiert still. I was convinced center of the 80's of the fact that the days for traditional tape occupation guitar bass guitar bass singingbass singing are counted. Today it is clear me that there is for it no reason. A young man - it can be also a woman - can express skirt tape by the form somewhat, what can be never expressed by Techno. Or by film, painting, photography. Only skirt can do that. ?: Last large example Nirvana. D: Yes. It must be so large still not times. It is simply only sound, movement, courage, a physical affair. It can quite be that from it never again good disks develop, but this something... ?: Also digital hard core cannot redeem that? D: That comes and goes. It is this backward instrument guitar, striking on the drum, that the people there pulls and not button tricks. Today, since the people do not pull into the war, it must be stop the skirt tape. It would not surprise me, if it is in one hundred years still exactly the same. This realization surprised me. ?: Do you make for music in any form still? D: At home has I mean instruments away closed. I have a fourteen years old daughter, who began to play schlagzeug. We do not live together, their nut/mother and I us some time ago separated, but we see ourselves two three times the week and if I am with their, we often play. My eleven-year old son plays guitar, I plays bass. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Martijn Rheenen, van" Subject: (klf) KLF 12" Remix played at my favourite Rock-bar! Date: 21 Dec 1998 12:09:47 -0000 You don't believe this! I'm visiting this great Dance-bar in Deventer, The Netherlands, called 'De Elegast'. I never thought they would have any material of the KLF over there, but they did! I asked the DJ (who I know very well after visiting this place for 4 years now) if he had anything of the KLF and, after looking at me funnily, he said he had the 12" remix on vinyl of some of their songs. It contained LTTT, Go To Sleep (the 'and then I hear' part at least), and all other kind of things I recognized from B&J. I'm getting his copy of it for 5 dutch guilders (since he doesn't like the music, hehe!). It seems to be a bootleg (at least that's what he told me) and seems to be of fine quality: He played the full length (about 10 minutes) version at full volume that evening!!! You all understand I was jumping around like crazy (but he still doesn't understand why... hehe). Just wanted to let you all know this! Greetings from Martijn van Rheenen (the Dutch guy) EMail: rheenen@angelfire.com Web: http://www.angelfire.com/ma/rheenen Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: DTT, KSTJ & Kalevala bits [was Re: (klf) Re: praise be to FOPP] Date: 18 Dec 1998 10:43:00 +0100 (BST) On Fri 18 Dec, Ian wrote: > > > > > > > I also hear alot of talk about FOPP, another chain or a > > > > warehouse? > > > > > > You're not thinking of TOTP are you? :-) > > > > Nah, Fopp Recrods is a place that has a few stores, mainly in > > Scotland with a couple around northern England. > > > > Odd things appear there from time to time too. > > > > Culf. > > There's a FOPP here in Leamington Spa and I've got the Waiting CD from > them and they currently have loads- I mean loads of the > Doctor-in-the-Tardis CD singles for 2.99. On the rec.music.marketplace.cd newsgroup there's a person/company trying to sell a copy of this CD-V for 21 pounds! I've even e-mailled them to tell them that a fairly major record store seems to have copies for 3 quid in abundance and that's why they're not selling their copy, but they're still persisting... On other notes, a contact of mine has got an excellent-condition copy of KLF010R (I think that's the right cat. no), the "Kylie Said To Jason" 12" with the Sierra Nevada White Room poster still intact and included. He asked me how much it's worth, and I said I'd ask around here- anybody got any suggestions? Oh, and on another note, I still have about three of the Kalevala 'album' CD-Rs lying around, and it would be nice to pass them on. The cost is 5 pounds / $8 each (sorry, but that's what I got charged to make them, and besides, I did buy the original singles as well...), tracklist can be sent on request. Merry Christmas to everyone too... Stuart. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kristian Bengtsson" Subject: (klf) t-shirts Date: 20 Dec 1998 12:54:54 +0100 Hello... Has anyone heard anything about the "why sheep" t-shirts that some of us orderd some time ago? Johan Hedberg doesn´t answer my mails .. they should have been deliverd by now, according to his last mail.. does anyone know anything about this? and some words in swedish.. Någon som har hört något om när tshirtarna skulle börja skickas iväg.. jag har fått uppfattningen att det skulle ske i slutet av november.. jag har mailat till johna men han har inte svarat.. han kanske är på semester, vad vet jag... Jag vill bara ha min t-shirt.. den är ju ganska snygg om man säger så.. jaja.. om nån har hört nått eller något annat som ni har på hjärtat så är det bara att maila... /kristian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alex Janzer Subject: (klf) Drummond interview - deconstructed II Date: 20 Dec 1998 21:16:19 +0100 John.C.S.Quel wrote: > >Sorry, but it is only in german. > > But thanks to Altavista`s Babelfish feature here`s the (albeit rather > patchy and pidgin Enlgish) translated version... That was only the first part of the interview, here is the rest: ... ?: Is cash in your life a topic? D: No large. I do not need much cash. And I made enough cash, in order to have no concerns. For which I am now, is writing. Since I am eighteen, I write, but it was missing to me always to self-confident its. After this book I made first times for a long time nothing, until before three years. ?: Writing is now somewhat clearly quieter, than everything that you made so far. D: Yes, but, to cry and the media on itself rausgehen make attentive do also nobody to pain. We ran not with knarren and people did not kill. It was always within the large play room art. We never really exceeded the boundaries. ?: Do you regret that? D: (still longer break) in most young men there is the desire to plot something a revolution, a war, something. The world destroy or it save. I would like to express myself consciously carefully: there could be a feeling of the regret the fact that we not gepluendert and raped. If I were however a Wikinger and my whole life long gepluendert and it had raped it would be probable that I sit there a daily and would require to me that I would have put this energy into something productive, which carved or a few legends written. Something to present except the four which are missing fingers at my right hand. ?: But you are not Wikinger. D: I compare only, which a young man at another point of history could have done. Ernst Juenger for example, I white, he is not announced even, but its book steel thunderstorm, that had this instinct to be rauszugehen and a Wikinger. ?: Fascinates you? D: I believe already. That is anyhow the Essenz its that differentiates skirt from Techno. The generation of our fathers or grandfathers was in the ditches and if they returned, was last which them would have broken in to access a guitar and revolt thus. ?: In order to return again to cash - can you imagine artistic statements without high financial expenditure? All your internal messages were expensively, more still, them cash brought up for discussion. D: Yes, that was one period. That is past. It was connected everything with the fact that it never concerned to us to make a heap cash. And then we saw on our account and there were all this cash, which was never our avowed target. ?: Thus had you thereby somewhat to make. D: (laughs) exact. It was like that strand to see how because of this paper the people treated one at one time differently. I mean, most people must for it hard operate and to us it easily came. ?: Whereby your movements were in the Business already very conscious and smart. D: That looks perhaps in such a way, but it was rather like that that we made everything, simply because we disks to have rausbringen wanted and in the fact not believe that somebody could be interested in it. Thus there were no producers, no managers, no label and we with each sold disk sixfold the its earned, which a normal artist with a normal Deal gets. ?: The lesson, the George Michael and Prince now also learned. D: Yes, whereby they have a life style, which consumes a majority of it again contrary to us. And their productions are many more expensive. ?: Have you a Deal with? D: No. The " Fuck the Millennium" thing from the last year developed like that, that was a unique affair. Whereby they would make gladly a type Greatest hit with us, but... ?: Is Daniel Miller someone, which tries, to hold you in the Pop business? D: No, in addition I see it also much too rarely. This piece was not also at all our idea, it was an artist named Jeremy Deller, that the whole thing in running brought and sometime was we in this dynamics in it and it became 2K. ?: The K again. D: Yes, K. ?: The nothing with Kopyright to do has? D: No, that was a journalist, who decided for itself the fact that it is called Kopyright liberation front and has copied all. Even disk companies, to which we licenced our things, have this name related. For us K was simply only good sound. Whereby letztens someone, which is occupied with Numerologie, told me that K is like that as A and Z a very meaning-strong letter. It is quite obvious a hard sounding letter. King is K, Queen is Q, a set, while K is a very male letter with a Erektion. But this symbolism was noticeable to me only later and is actually also insignificant from therefore. ?: But K the opposite of MuMu is obvious. D: Totally. MuMu is warm and feminine, K is hard and blitzkrieg. Tekkno. ?: But ironically. D: Surely. ?: Is it easy for you to be fewer public? D: We never felt or lived in such a way like star. ?: But much for done remaining always in the discussion. D: At the same time we always operated in addition, for us or a small group of humans. These things become ever more important. If you give something to the public and reported it on it, your feelings change in addition, even if all people like it. Therefore there is ever more things, which simple we make and which exist somewhere, on a piece paper. It is like a garden, as someone, which operates gladly in the garden. The world does not have to know, how this garden looks. ?: What is actually with your art price? D: That was a unique internal message. A piece. It made for sense only in such a way. At the start we thought still of making it annual each year another internal message for another art, but than we had it behind us, it was clear us that that does not make a sense. It would have become a fixed taken into account part of the annual Medienentertainment. ' Oh, it is October, we can over the K Foundation Award berichten'... no thanks. ?: To what extent wait it you with the happenings of the reaction of media and public consciously and it into your concept took into account? How many steps you durchdacht? D: (considered) in the Pop counts the primitive genius more than the knowing genius. We all want John Lee Hooker and not... ?: David Bowie. D: Exactly. That is all clear and we knows even, why. Therefore there are so many artists, gives fewer to know, in order to work more genuiner. Which concerns however Jimmy and me, then we are often regarded as many more durchdachter and consciously, than we are real. We are not no primitive ones, in addition, long so naturally calculated, as many people assume it. The things do not occur simply, differently go that at all. Erstmal rauslassen and then consider. There were also internal messages, from which we thought that they would excite attention, which however not at all the case was. ?: Are you a culture pessimist? D: No, rather the opposite. If something negative occurs, politically or wherever, is it not so that I think ' clear, humans am badly '. I am always disappointed or shocked. Jimmy and I are romantics. ?: For a while it appeared, as if would be you a type culture police that one can rely on it that from KLF statements come to reactionary cultural developments, as with larger political conflicts the USA is in demand. D: Jimmy would say that we have this responsibility to do the obligation the correct. All the same which occurs even in the private one, we must raus, because who would do otherwise it. But not in the political sense, we do not have to know and wars to stop. An example: before two and a half years we made an internal message in Yugoslavia, showed we our cash burn film in Belgrade. A group of artists had contacted us and went we on the main workstation, where all demonstrations or rebellions take place. One week beforehand had asked us another group to contribute a piece for a Benefiz Sampler (' Help '). The target was to apply millions Pound for the children in Bosnia. All artists should take up their piece on Monday and the disk should on following Friday rauskommen, a large medium event. On this Monday we were however in Belgrade and technically seen on the other page. It was not Yugoslavia, which fought against Bosnia, but they supported the Serbs in any case. There we were now and have a film shown where millions Pound to be burned. We made then nevertheless still another piece, a version of " The Magnifcent Seven ", on which we used Samples of a telephone call with a Yugoslav radio DJ. The piece we took then first times also to Belgrade and to the station given, it became its theme song, more still it became the Hymne for the resistance against the Yugoslav government. It was the first time that we took up something, which more should be than fodder for the Mainstream. ?: Was the motivation in addition a debt feeling? Or how were you showing the film there? D: One asked us stop. And, if we show this film, we always discuss with the people, ask to them questions. Mostly we get to hear that it is a crime or that it is moved, therefore have we the film in the prison shown and asked, whether it is a crime and we have it to psychiatric hospitals pointed and asked, whether it is insanity. In Yugoslavia we asked whether it is a crime against the humanity. ?: And which were the reactions? D: That I can remember best, is a man, who asked us whether that was all our cash. It concerned to it whether we, if we had only two Pound would buy a Hamburg one or the cash to burn. We to him explained that we would naturally buy that to Hamburg ones that it concerned thereby something else, i.e., to destroy an icon the icon millions Pound, with which we grew up, about which one already dreamed on the playground. For what do I make everything with millions Pound? Anyhow I had a discussion with this person, and he had never this dream. It thought, sowas only in America would exist, its dream was to come into the olympia crew or along-pass on with a famous association. Differently said, the base of our internal message had there no meaning. ?: To hardly believe. I would have thought that it is in still higher measure the epitome of luck there. D: Perhaps is that today like that. At that time they in addition, a so strong inflation that the people have actually bank notes related, had to tapezieren in order their dwelling. But I think, also in our western society am this an internal message, which is possible only in this century. This special total and in particular as paper money is overhauled by all possible factors, whether that is the euro, credit cards... ?: Is this internal message actually a stigma? Do you feel you reduced to it? D: No. It is the first time since long time that I speak about it. It sounds zynisch, but we learned very much by this internal message and to learn still by the reaction of the people. There are many, which do not want to admit simply that it is correct, not to want that someone made something more extreme, as her. Try therefore it it to down-pass on or say that it did not really occur at all... ?: that their only made it, in order to save controls. D: (it laughs short and hysterisch) fact is that we had to pay on it still controls. We could show no vouchers for salaries or equipment, it were pure profit. Thus the internal message cost us again approximately 400,000 Pound of controls. ?: Are there for the moment irgenwelche current internal messages? Does the plan for the pyramid of humans exist still? D: Yes. But it is appropriate on ice I would like with my writing to get ahead and for Jimmy has also a heap of other projects. Additionally whole Millennium history must be first times past. ?: Thus is there Silvester 2000 no internal message of the K Foundation? D: No. We go to bed. ?: What means you Internet? D: Nothing. Long time came people to us and tried, us on it anzufixen. We tried it, but it never really inspired us. Jimmy uses the network for information, I still not times. I go gladly into libraries. There was the idea to " bath Wisdom ", my last book, which I had written with Marks of Manning, to have it only in the Internet a copy of it however in a tower in Northern Ireland, where people could to go and read there it. That was the idea to bring and to somewhat quite special one make the bound book into the time before the printing and on the other page the paperback in Internet to bring, where it can read everyone free of charge. Practical ones not to say over financial reasons made that unfortunately impossible. Additionally is what I really willl, a book in the bag, to which one also regards that it was read. ?: What means you the exchange with other humans? D: Jimmy and I will make always things common. As Jagger and Richards. One by Rock'n'Roll accepted work form, to those I accustomed functioned itself and those very well. From it it is refrained to give also again and again co-operation with other people. ?: But not within Popmusik? D: No. No interest. ?: And film? D: There was times this film project, but us it clear-became that we cannot co-operate with a large group of people. ?: Are you ashamed for something? D: In the private. Otherwise it does not gbt a reason. When I wrote the epilog for this book here, I read and wanted it again it to gladly again revise, but it would be false. It has its workstation, then I made and well it. ?: And people, which you attacked? D: Do we have? ?: What is " Julian Cope Is DEAD, I Shot Him in The Head.. " from your solo disk for example with the Song? D: You know, who Ian Curtis is? ?: Surely. D: Joy division were friends of us, and as Ian Curtis died, it of the press to a type Messias one structured. Even if me that were always clear that the death of a Popmusikers transforms it into something else, nevertheless the special experience was to see like someone which one well knows becomes suddenly holy. I suggested then Mac (Ian McCulluch) launching its death disappearing two months and seeing which occurred, but he found it unfairly to his family opposite. In the Song I made from it then Julian Cope. ?: That does not have to do anything with hate. D: No. ?: Were you times furious? D: (long break) I believe, it never gave a reason in addition. It is as in a relationship if it to end goes and you any longer to remember cannot, how the feeling at the start times was. I can rage, if there which were, not remember. ?: Do you like animals? D: My friend loves animals. It has dogs and cats. I lived for a long time on the country, I know all birds, I know all fish. I am a nature boy. ?: In the NME interview after your appearance with the Brit Awards went it mainly around the dead sheep, which you used and seemed, as if you this internal message would have repented. D: Yes. Actually I wanted to chop off myself on the stage a hand and throw her in the public. You ask me whether I are furious - now, I believe in me am many more extreme feelings. ?: Were you how close to to do it? D: (thoughtfully) I do not know it. Probably million miles far away. However finally I do not have it done (sinniert) it well would have been. It would have been super. I believe Jimmy it to me dissuaded from. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott English Subject: RE: DTT, KSTJ & Kalevala bits [was Re: (klf) Re: praise be to FOP Date: 21 Dec 1998 16:50:00 -0000 >Oh, and on another note, I still have about three of the Kalevala >'album' CD-Rs lying around, and it would be nice to pass them on. The >cost is 5 pounds / $8 each (sorry, but that's what I got charged to make >them, and besides, I did buy the original singles as well...), tracklist >can be sent on request. Sorry for being a bit thick, but what is this Kalevala cd? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michelle and Stuey Subject: Re: (klf) Drummond interview - what is schlagzeug? Date: 22 Dec 1998 11:07:19 +1300 John S Quel translated Drummonds german interview... There are other translation programs out there, including ones with custom dictionaries, perhaps someone can try translating it again and see if the meaning is improved... A few questions for our German subscribers... > A young man - it can be also a woman > - can express skirt tape by the form somewhat, what can be never > expressed by Techno. Or by film, painting, photography. Only > skirt can do that. Skirt tape crops up a few times in the interview. There must be a better translation than that - what is he talking about? Perhaps the most interesting question for us is... > ?: Do you make for music in any form still? > > D: At home has I mean instruments away closed. I have a fourteen > years old daughter, who began to play schlagzeug. We do not live > together, their nut/mother and I us some time ago separated, but > we see ourselves two three times the week and if I am with their, > we often play. My eleven-year old son plays guitar, I plays bass. So Drumond has all his old instruments locked away at home and the only time he plays them is jamming with his kids from his first marriage. Interesting. However, just for interest, I'd like to know what instrument his daughter plays: what is schlagzeug?? cheers, Stuey Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, 09 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Stuey's groovy new website is now open: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: DTT, KSTJ & Kalevala bits [was Re: (klf) Re: praise be to FOPP] Date: 21 Dec 1998 22:29:12 EST > Sorry for being a bit thick, but what is this Kalevala cd? Kalevala is the soundtrack to the Bad Wisdom book. Six singles produced by Drummond. There was also an album discussed with additional tracks but it never came to light. Stuart's cd collects all 12 tracks from the signles. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Hedberg Subject: (klf) T-shirts -> News Update! Date: 22 Dec 1998 14:25:59 +0100 Hi and a very Merry X-Mas to you all! I'm terribly sorry that I haven't answered the mails sent to me the last days, but I took a few days off from work. X-mas coming up and then I'm going to London for a week so if you need to reach me try mailto:untfredag@hotmail.com (27/12 - 3/1) The t-shirts. I promised you all to have them before christmas. The producer promised me to have them ready a week before christmas. There were a few problems but none that couldn't be solved within a few hours. So why haven't you got any yet? (Is it starting to be a new TWROST?) =) I don't know to be honest. I'm starting to understand why the production-cost is so low. I've seen a few test-prints, but everytime I call the company and ask if they are ready they have a negative answer. Embarassing. The latest news is that they won't be ready before new years eve. They've said that if they aren't ready until the 9th of january the will do the production for free. I told them that it is to f**king late and they...well they understand and I've managed to make them cut USD 2 for each t-shirt that haven't been produced yet. The money will be sent to you with the shirt. I'm so sorry for all this. If I had any idea of this in the beginning I wouldn't have done it, but still: It's going to be damned nice t-shirts! =) So take care, keep the faith and feel free to let me know what you think of all this. Once again: Merry X-mas! (Santa will wear a 'Why Sheep' - shirt, and so will you soon) =) /Johan Hedberg AB Upsala Nya Tidning E-mail: Johan.Hedberg@unt.se Johan Hedberg Fax: +46 - 18 - 478 14 76 UNT Fredag Tel: +46 - 18 - 478 11 23 Box 36 Mobile: +46 - 70 - 473 15 75 S - 751 03 Uppsala Sweden # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik Subject: (klf) Drummond interview - german words explained Date: 22 Dec 1998 14:33:18 +0100 (MET) here's some improvements on the interview translation. don't have time to do the complete text though. sorry. enjoy and merry x-mas :) erik some of the words are wrongly translated (german word for skirt is Rock, same as for rock wich is Rock as well in german) besser - better schlechter - worse aufregender - more exiting nix - nothing Schwafeln - rambeling about (?) Niederbeten - recite on and on Wunderbarkeiten - wonders / wonderful things hochstirniger - high forehead bebrillter - glasses-wearing rauszubringen - to release goes raus and makes a disk - go out and make a record popkulturell - pop-culturely Popkultur - pop-culture prima - great romantisieren - romanticise too busy [...], in order to become... - too busy _to_ become... naheliegenste - most obvious tape - band disks - records skirt - rock exisitiert - exists skirt tape - rock band schlagzeug - (a set of) drumms here's the initial translation again for those who didn't catch it: --- But thanks to Altavista`s Babelfish feature here`s the (albeit rather patchy and pidgin Enlgish) translated version... http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate? That is it: Kingboy D, Justified Ancient OF MuMu, KLF, time lord, K Foundation, 2K. Geldverennung, art price, Doctorin ' The Tardis, What time Is Love, Chill Out, The one however that is (almost) all past and remains unique. Because goes only through no. And no is called: no new disk. No more music. No concert. No willless, all in question placing sentimental in former times be all besser/schlechter/aufregender internal message. Actually at all nix. Only calm, considered, appropriate thinking, writing, concerning. **time-out** cause for Bill D, the rural homeland for one day too leave, be, disappointment or ago, actual only the German translation their ' 88er lampoon " The manual " (the it for some day on our page exclusive read can). **time-out** in order here not in groundless Schwafeln and Niederbeten all Wunderbarkeiten this group expire - if it not know, then see even after - http://quality.gconnect.com/KLF /. Bill Drummond ' 98 - a large, easily bent, hochstirniger and bebrillter man. An inconspicuous, unaffektierter, friendly man. ?: Was it your decision, which book ten years later on German rauszubringen? D: Not really. It is rather a romantic thing. It was a book of its time. It came from hearts. ?: Was it already times translated? D: No. When the people called me, which shift it now, I found it easy nice to have it again in the hand in addition still on German. It does not concern to say naturally any longer, ' hey, goes raus and makes a disk ', that is meanwhile completely irrelevant. No cultural meaning, no other reason for us to place than it in the shelf. ?: It could be read also in such a way that Germany is past popkulturell so far behind England that it would make sense now here. D: Which is not correct. Popkultur and England have a natural connection. But Techno fits prima Germany. ?: Do you have a sentimental feeling at the time? D: No. I do not know exactly, why. Probably it is still too close everything, in order to be able to romantisieren it. Perhaps is it like that, if I am 60. I am much too busy with current things, in order to become sentimental. ?: Which also surprises me, it is that the book was so for a long time not available, although there was an enormous demand. D: To it we did not have interest. ?: It did not concern thus cash. D: Not at all. If it had concerned cash, we would have produced but determine an album, no book. ?: In view of the new edition the naheliegenste of all questions - could their it again make? D: I do not believe. The people always believe that, but it almost never goes. Artists, tape have their success in a certain time. The period determines, who they are and which they do. Additionally you despaired never again in such a way, so devotedly, if you are older and your success already had. ?: According to your book unemployment is a good initial position. D: Yes, everyone knows that. Everyone knows also that it becomes terrible, if those accumulates favourite tape again. ?: In addition, there are people, which to some extent succeed in positioning itself again and again again. David Bowie for example. D: May be, but it is so well impossible normally for an artist to become old within the Popkultur. Pop celebrates youth. That does not only apply to music, also to book and theatre. ?: Does Popmusik interest you at all still? D: Hardly. ?: Were there phenomena since the end of KLF within Pop, which you inspired or even surprised? D: (long break) there are again and again disks, which I like. Tape do not interest me, the music already. Otherwise it surprised me that skirt exisitiert still. I was convinced center of the 80's of the fact that the days for traditional tape occupation guitar bass guitar bass singingbass singing are counted. Today it is clear me that there is for it no reason. A young man - it can be also a woman - can express skirt tape by the form somewhat, what can be never expressed by Techno. Or by film, painting, photography. Only skirt can do that. ?: Last large example Nirvana. D: Yes. It must be so large still not times. It is simply only sound, movement, courage, a physical affair. It can quite be that from it never again good disks develop, but this something... ?: Also digital hard core cannot redeem that? D: That comes and goes. It is this backward instrument guitar, striking on the drum, that the people there pulls and not button tricks. Today, since the people do not pull into the war, it must be stop the skirt tape. It would not surprise me, if it is in one hundred years still exactly the same. This realization surprised me. ?: Do you make for music in any form still? D: At home has I mean instruments away closed. I have a fourteen years old daughter, who began to play schlagzeug. We do not live together, their nut/mother and I us some time ago separated, but we see ourselves two three times the week and if I am with their, we often play. My eleven-year old son plays guitar, I plays bass. x # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shahar Subject: (klf) The Drummond books and the manual Date: 22 Dec 1998 17:03:52 +0200 The books were supposed to be available mid-December, has anybody in the UK seen them or heard some news from Ellipsis? At amazon.co.uk The Manual appears as "not yet published" while on the Ellipsis site all three are already on the catalogue under unpopular culture. Shahar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy R." Subject: Re: (klf) Drummond interview - what is schlagzeug? Date: 22 Dec 1998 15:39:38 +0000 Michelle and Stuey wrote: > So Drumond has all his old instruments locked away at home and the > only time he plays them is jamming with his kids from his first > marriage. Interesting. However, just for interest, I'd like to know > what instrument his daughter plays: what is schlagzeug?? I'm most suspicious about this bit of the interview, Bill is notorious for 'drifting away from the truth' in interviews, and here he seems to be avoiding the subject of the Kalevala music. He may mean playing as in "The Man", as I doubt he 'played' on much KLF stuff in the normal sense of the word. - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) The Drummond books and the manual Date: 22 Dec 1998 10:58:40 EST > The books were supposed to be available mid-December, has anybody in the > UK seen them or heard some news from Ellipsis? At amazon.co.uk The > Manual appears as "not yet published" while on the Ellipsis site all > three are already on the catalogue under unpopular culture. I placed an order via the web page. they said they'd contact me once the card had been approved but it's been a week and nothing. I can't locate a phone number on their page and I can't find the list-post with some contact information. Anyone still have that? I think it was from mid november. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Lumb" Subject: (klf) viva viagra Date: 22 Dec 1998 16:04:55 -0000 Has anybody got any info on the track called 'viva viagra' by the group calling themsleves the jams. goto www.mp3.com and search for klf and you'll find this. the track is 1.5 megs and downloadable. Pity I've no soundcard in my machine at work. Christmas hoax or not everyone have a rocking one Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Barker Subject: RE: (klf) The Drummond books and the manual Date: 22 Dec 1998 16:24:41 +0000 I'm still waiting..... When I ordered my books, Lindsay said they would be delivered mid-December. If there is nothing on my doormat when I return after Christmas, I'll start chasing her (?) Chris PS. Try Lindsay on tel 0171 7393157, fax 0171 7393175 or email lindsay@ellipsis.co.uk > I placed an order via the web page. they said they'd contact me once > the card > had been approved but it's been a week and nothing. > > I can't locate a phone number on their page and I can't find the > list-post > with some contact information. > > Anyone still have that? I think it was from mid november. > > -paul > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Ashkenazi Subject: Re: (klf) The Drummond books and the manual Date: 22 Dec 1998 18:31:28 +0200 Hi, TheMgnt@aol.com wrote: > > > The books were supposed to be available mid-December, has anybody in the > > UK seen them or heard some news from Ellipsis? At amazon.co.uk The > > Manual appears as "not yet published" while on the Ellipsis site all > > three are already on the catalogue under unpopular culture. > > I placed an order via the web page. they said they'd contact me once the card > had been approved but it's been a week and nothing. > > I can't locate a phone number on their page and I can't find the list-post > with some contact information. > > Anyone still have that? I think it was from mid november. While we're on the subject I thought i'll mail my plea for help. I want to order some of this books, but both of this on line stores do not take cash. My credit card unfortunately is only valid in my country (Israel), so it's impossible for me to order from this stores. If someone knows an on line store that have this books and take cash or wants to help me get them in some other way, please mail me. Thanks in advance & marry xmas! Regards, David A. -- __________________________________ I've lost the rest of my signature file on a crash... - ICQ: 13255725 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Robinson Subject: (klf) Drummond Books Date: 22 Dec 1998 18:09:06 +0000 I bought the 2 'small books' in person from Helter Skelter last week (along with the money burning book). Be prepared to be disappointed... they are miniscule paperbacks, about half the size of a normal book, and only about 50 pages long. Apalling value for money for 10 quid, so if you are expecting bad wisdom 2&3, you'll feel very let down. Content-wise, they seem just to be whatever Bill had lying about, some rejected sleevenotes for Echo & the Bunnymen's greatest hits does not a novel make in my opinion. The Kali story is entertaining, but wouldn't be out of place in a compilation of 10 short stories at 5 quid, rather than padded to make a 10 quid book on it's own. BTW Print runs are claimed to be 300 of each, not the 500 previously reported. The revised manual has been delayed, according to the shop staff. - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jai Subject: Re: (klf) The Drummond books and the manual Date: 22 Dec 1998 19:10:29 +0000 At 10:58 am -0500 22/12/98, TheMgnt@aol.com tapped out on a keyboard: >> The books were supposed to be available mid-December, has anybody in t= he >> UK seen them or heard some news from Ellipsis? At amazon.co.uk The >> Manual appears as "not yet published" while on the Ellipsis site all >> three are already on the catalogue under unpopular culture. >I can't locate a phone number on their page and I can't find the list-po= st >with some contact information. >Anyone still have that? I think it was from mid november. well i phoned them up the other day, but Lindsay wasn't there and the person i spoke to told me to talk to their distributors and then i got stuck with a machine. oh well. ne'er mind. here is the original post (or at least, i assume it is): >Dear all; > >I was on the phone to Ellipsis earlier today and the woman I spoke to >told me she'd had loads of calls and didn't know how the info was >getting out. I said I had an idea how (by the KLF list!) and she seemed >interested in this. She asked if I'd forward this to the list for all to >see. So here it is... please email or call her... not me!! > >Drew > >-- > >lindsay evans wrote: > >Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:11:18 +0000 >To: a.l.radtke@Bradford.ac.uk >From: lindsay evans >Subject: Bill Drummond's books > >Thanks for the few that have phoned already - I thought it a good idea t= o >pass on as much info as possible. Here's the information on the three ne= w >books ellipsis have available: > >The Manual (reprint ) =A310.00 available mid December > >The Annual (limited edition between 200 and 300 copies available) =A310.= 00 > >>From the Shores on Lake Placid (limited edition between 200 and 300 cop= ies >available) =A310.00 > >K Foundation Burn a Million Quid (published in December 1997) =A315.00 > >All the above titles can be ordered by credit card directly from Lindsay= on >tel 0171 7393157, fax 0171 7393175 or email lindsay@ellipsis.co.uk. Plea= se >let me know your mailing address and card details. > >K Foundation Burn a Million Quid and The Manual - should be available fr= om >good bookshops and the two limited editions should be available from Hel= ter >Skelter in London and a handfull of supporting bookshops. > >If you need any more information please let me know. Thanks >Lindsay > >Here's the blurb on the first edition The Annual > >Bill Drummond's Annual Report to the Mavericks, Writers and Film Festiva= l >is a vivid tale of how he allows a bunch of strangers at a literary >festival to send him to Calcutta to file his accounts with the fearsome >goddess Kali, representative of 'the unbridled nature of the female of t= he >species.' Or is he responding to her unavoidable personal summons to tak= e >stock of the intricacies of his personal life and serially unworshipful >relationships? > >His prilgrimage, a comfortable confessional blessedly free from the usua= l >descriptive accounts, takes him via Bombay and the M25 in the company of >Gerry 'Filthy MacNasty's' O'Boyle and Iain Sinclair. He takes with him T= ed >Hughes' Birthday Letters as a talisman against the power of Kali, all th= at >is loathsome and disgusting and powerful and insatiable. Drummond >originally fell in love with Hughes' work - so removed from his 'world o= f >counter-culture superstars, striking car workers, punk rock wars, reggae >records and signing on' - to fill the space left by the demise of punk. > >Hughes, whose own death ends the narrative, becomes his constant compani= on >on both his inner journey and his geographical one. On the 36-hour train >journey from Bombay to Kali's temple in Calcutta Birthday Letters - all >that messy relationship stuff - is turned into an ammunition of paper >planes littering the route from the Arabian Sea to the Bay of Bengal, a >trail of poetry from sea to sea. He delivers the remains of the book as = a >sacrificial offering at the altar of Kali's toe. And should Ted be told? > >Horrified at a the prospect of finding himself a 'cheap tourist in someo= ne >else's religion', Drummond is forced to admit common cause, and a shared >choice in breakfast venues, with men of a certain age trying to find >themselves. He returns to find himself with a growing appreciation of th= e >Unabomber's literary style and beliefs but luckily remembers what his mu= m >always told him, and makes the final decision not to write the film scri= pt >for Executing God. > >The five pieces of Annual Report to the Mavericks, Writers and Film >Festival span just over a year in one man's mid-life crisis; from the >publication of Birthday Letters to the death of its author; from one >Mavericks, Writers and Film Festival to the next; from the invitation to >write one film script to a final question about who could play Ted Hughe= s >in the film of the Ted and Sylvia story. Who indeed? > > -- "this machine will not comunicate these thoughts and the strain i am under... and fade out again" Jai Nelson jnel@atlas.co.uk - j.i.nelson@sms.ed.ac.uk illitrate Publicashions illitrate@orangenet.co.uk http://cw.orangenet.co.uk/~illitrate/ 'Some day we're all gonna die, and then we'll see who's laughing' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Campbell-Jack Subject: Re: (klf) viva viagra Date: 22 Dec 1998 21:28:06 GMT I downloaded it as .ra from the new JAMS site which you can get to from mp3.com. The site has loads of 23's chucked in here and there, there is a picture of the sleeve of 2987 (to be released on 23rd of Feb 1999), the e-mail address is dj-cuts@rocketmail.com The song is pretty pants, some american scientist talking about viagra with a few 'justified's and 'sexual intercourse's thrown in here and there. > Has anybody got any info on the track called 'viva viagra' by the group > calling themsleves the jams. > goto www.mp3.com and search for klf and you'll find this. > the track is 1.5 megs and downloadable. > Pity I've no soundcard in my machine at work. > Christmas hoax or not everyone have a rocking one > Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ KUTS Date: 22 Dec 1998 14:52:28 -0800 (PST) http://members.xoom.com/2987 and congratulations to the guy who first discovered the track on mp3.com The Artists Forever Knowns As The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: (klf) Re: Date: 22 Dec 1998 20:29:24 EST > http://members.xoom.com/2987 > > and congratulations to the guy who first discovered > the track on mp3.com > > The Artists Forever Knowns As > The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu Nice one, but may I be the first to say that I'm not buying it. B&J wouldn't be so direct in mentioning their previous works. Nor use a rocketmail account. I'll probably still pick up the cd, tho. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: (klf) Ellipsis mail order Date: 23 Dec 1998 00:27:37 EST I sent e to ellipsis inquiring about my order and this is the reply I received. > yes we did receive your order (here's the confirmation) > > two excuses for the delay... > > (1) all three titles have only just been delivered to us and are still > processing through our warehouse goods-in - with the christmas > interference, they will not process any orders now until earliest week of > 4th january but could be a week later > > (2) lindsay our sales manager - who would have responded anyway - is away > now, from 11th december till next week (27th or so) So, slight delay. Nothing new to this list. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Angiello" Subject: Re: (klf) Ellipsis mail order Date: 23 Dec 1998 02:15:37 -0500 > > I sent e to ellipsis inquiring about my order and this is the reply I > received. > > > yes we did receive your order (here's the confirmation) They really weren't very good excuses, were they? On another note entirely, did my request for the location of the most recently updated version of the FAQ every reach the list? Jim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Quahogs!" Subject: Re: (klf) Drummond interview - what is schlagzeug? Date: 23 Dec 1998 17:25:03 -0600 >Interesting. However, just for interest, >I'd like to know what instrument his daughter plays: what is schlagzeug?? Schlagzeug is drums. Just so you know. :) --Quahogs-- Q: If you had to name the one band (other than KMFDM) that has had the most impact on you which one would it be? A: frank zappa --Sascha Konieztko, from the KMFDM Q&A page Quahogs http://skapunx.ml.org/~k944 k944@skapunx.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: (klf) merry xmas! Date: 25 Dec 1998 14:47:01 +0000 wheee!!! I wish you all a happy fantastic fun fun fun joyful merry xmas or whatever it is you celebrate these days, and I wish you all an even better and more fun and greater new kickass year! :D hope your new years eve will kick much ass and you'll have a blast, sober or not ;) See ya all later! :) Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://www.kosmic.org/~nemesis1 Free Your Mind - Remove the Brain :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Bennett Subject: (klf) (KLF) CD Artwork Date: 25 Dec 1998 15:49:36 -0500 (EST) hey all..time for me to make my first request..i hope someone can help me out.. i have made copies of the following KLF material onto CD and would REALLY love it if someone that actually has the cd's could scan in the actual CD art (i have the covers and backs) i would really appreciate it..thanks.. The KLF - Waiting For The Rites Of MU Space - Space Jams -1987 The Timelords - The History Of The Jams Bill Drummond - The Man and does anyone have the artwork (cover backs, and cd art) for TWROST because i was late getting in my order (actually never heard about it till people started complaining about it being late.. thanks Snarfy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik Subject: (klf) viagra mp3 - updated Date: 27 Dec 1998 12:58:04 +0100 (MET) I found it! It's at http://www.mp3.com/music/Scandals/5815.html could the owner of the http://members.xoom.com/2987/viva.htm please change the link? A direct link to the file is impossible ('cause it a cgi thingy) thanks :-) erik earlier I wrote: >hi >did anybody download the viva viagra .mp3 as linked on >http://members.xoom.com/2987/viva.htm ? >the link doesn't work anymore >please help >thanks >:-) >erik -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik@xdollarx.com | http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~gander/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik Subject: (klf) viagra mp3 Date: 27 Dec 1998 12:51:19 +0100 (MET) hi did anybody download the viva viagra .mp3 as linked on http://members.xoom.com/2987/viva.htm ? the link doesn't work anymore please help thanks :-) erik ps happy new year everybody -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik@xdollarx.com | http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~gander/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav" Subject: RE: (klf) viagra mp3 - updated Date: 28 Dec 1998 01:38:03 +0100 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-klf@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-klf@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of erik > Sent: dimanche 27 d=E9cembre 1998 12:58 > To: klf@xmission.com > Subject: (klf) viagra mp3 - updated > > > > I found it! It's at > http://www.mp3.com/music/Scandals/5815.html > > could the owner of the http://members.xoom.com/2987/viva.htm > please change the link? A direct link to the file is impossible > ('cause it a cgi thingy) > Excuse my french, but what is this Krap ???? I mean, sheeshh... If this is all we have to look forward to in the near future, then ill st= ick with all the pre-KeCeraCera stuff.... Cheers Xav PS: Happy Xmas and New year to all !! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m u t e" Subject: (klf) re: CD Artwork Date: 27 Dec 1998 20:55:43 PST Christopher Bennett asked: "i have made copies of the following KLF material onto CD and would REALLY love it if someone that actually has the cd's could scan in the actual CD art (i have the covers and backs) i would really appreciate it..thanks.. The Timelords - The History Of The Jams Bill Drummond - The Man" Why don't you just buy the CDs? The Man was re-released at mid-price in the UK last year, so it's hardly even expensive...and since two of the others you asked about are bootlegs, the "actual CD art" is hardly anything official... "and does anyone have the artwork (cover backs, and cd art) for TWROST because i was late getting in my order (actually never heard about it till people started complaining about it being late.." Well, this you could still get from Marshall (though I haven't...), along with 1987. Fuck The Year Before The Millennium, Mute. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (klf) Is the list dead or just my e-mail Date: 28 Dec 1998 11:25:04 -0600 I haven't had any mail come from the KLF or ORB list all weekend, so this is more of a test than anything else. "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: (klf) Re: (orb) Is the list dead or just my e-mail Date: 28 Dec 1998 18:23:10 +0000 well, I could see it :) the list has been very quiet, not not that quiet... I take it that you didn't see my xmas greest then ;) Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://www.kosmic.org/~nemesis1 Free Your Mind - Remove the Brain :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: (klf) Wonderfull days... Date: 28 Dec 1998 23:54:57 +0100 I just noticed that track 4 on my "Wonderfull days" cd by Charly Lownoise and Mental Theo is called "Live In London (Trance Central Mix)". Just one more chance or what? Torsten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Is the list dead or just my e-mail Date: 29 Dec 1998 01:28:32 EST > I haven't had any mail come from the KLF or ORB list all weekend, so this is > more of a test than anything else. Things usually die down over Christmas. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Drew Radtke Subject: (klf) Doctorin' The Tardis CDV Date: 29 Dec 1998 12:42:58 +0000 (GMT) Dear all; You know KLFCD003 which is the Doctorin' The Tardis CD/CDV single? Well I know you can get these cheaply from one place in the UK, but for those of you who that's not an option for I've got three of the beasts which if anyone wants email me. I suppose, in keeping with tradition, I should accept the highest offers, in UK pounds please. Bear in mind I'll have to post them out to whereever, and you'll have to get the money to me in cash or traveler's cheque. Bear in mind it's not likely you'll be able to play the video unless you know about PAL CDV format. But the DIT video is pretty dull anyway. I wonder, given the reprint of 'The Manual', whether DIT will be rereleased? If so I'd not bother getting one off me. I'll be away from email until Friday now. Thanks, Drew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik Subject: RE: (klf) viagra mp3 - help needed again Date: 29 Dec 1998 10:27:12 +0100 (MET) [The JAMS in VIVA VIAGRA] At 01:38 28.12.98 +0100, you wrote: >Excuse my french, but what is this Krap ???? it's not Bill and Jimmy, it's a scam. As far as we know. I just wanted a copy for the collection... But I noticed, the file now available is only one quarter the size of the old one! It's only 1.5 minutes! Does anybody have the complete .mp3 file? cheers :-) erik ps. XAV could you please email me about the White Room and the Bjork thing? Thanks CU all in 1999 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik@xdollarx.com | http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~gander/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Subject: (klf) The KLF - Das Handbuch Date: 29 Dec 1998 18:01:18 +0100 Hello, some days ago the german version of "The Manual" has been released. It features a new epilog written by Bill Drummond in 1998 ;-). So if you understand the german language be sure to give it a try: Bill Drummond & Jimmy Cauty a.k.a. The KLF <--- yes, there is a KLF-logo on the cover ;-)) Das Handbuch - Der schnelle Weg zum Nr.1 Hit dgv, Die Gestalten Verlag, Berlin ISBN 3-931126-22-6 DM 24,80 Michael ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> ***K THE MILLENNIUM - WE WANT IT NOW << http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/1353/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jai Subject: (klf) The Webring Date: 30 Dec 1998 00:21:19 +0000 The KLF webring has just been updated and moved from the slow geocities site to one that is hopefully a bit faster. trouble is, its now packed full of dodgy javascript, so any speed improvements have probably been negated. sorry. anyway, you can find the front page for the ring at: http://welcome.to/theKLFwebring i'd recommend this site for using the ring (at least, if you are using a javascript capable browser and your machine isn't too slow) because then you'll get the benefits of the new control bar i wrote over Xmas which will move you round the ring and also provides a nice solution to the problem of dead links putting holes in the ring. Erm... hope you enjoy it and can you let me know of any problems you find it causes and whether or not the control bar is visible on PC browsers as i've only a chance to set it up for Netscape on a Mac. If you wanna add a page to the ring, you can do it at the above address.... and if you've already got a page and you'd like the control bar to be part of it instead of the current banner or whatever, then let me know and i'll send you the frame infomation and tell you where to link to the javascript and pictures an stuff. okay thats it. cheers and i hope it help some. -- --- "I am shit scared. Shit scared of almost everything!" -Bill Drummond, Bad Wisdom illitrate Publicashions Lymatid - Wyrd Books 4 Weird People - jnel@atlas.co.uk - jai5@orangenet.co.uk - - http://cw.orangenet.co.uk/~illitrate/ - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: Re: (klf) seeking TWR on NTSC Date: 30 Dec 1998 00:24:15 +0100 >I am curious as to whether The White Room movie has ever been converted to NTSC; >and if so are there measures that might result in acquisition of a copy thereof? > I don't know about NTSC - but it is in Mpeg format at the KLF Collections. Check out : http://www.image.dk/~biotech4/klf/klfmp3.htm for more info. lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Daw Subject: (klf) Mark 'Spike' Stent Date: 30 Dec 1998 18:49:18 +0000 There is an interview with Spike in the January 99 issue of Sound On Sound. It's lengthy and technical but he does talk about working with the KLF. -- Simon Daw simon_klf@esteem.demon.co.uk http://www.esteem.demon.co.uk/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark turner <106713.454@compuserve.com> Subject: (klf) Jimmy's remix of Placebo Date: 31 Dec 1998 08:53:34 -0500 Found in this week's NME: 'Placebo release new single "Every You Every Me" on January 25 through Hu= t, the third track from their latest album, "Without You I'm Nothing". The single will be backed by various remixes across three formats. The guest remixers are The KLF's Jimmy Cauty, Sneaker Pimps, Blue Amazon and Brothers in Rhythm.' Mark Turner # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) Jimmy's remix of Placebo Date: 31 Dec 1998 10:35:05 -0600 He's doing a Marilyn Mansun remix as well. You might think I'm kidding, but I'm completely serious. I don't know which track or when it's coming out. Don Placebo release new single "Every You Every Me" on January 25 through Hut, the third track from their latest album, "Without You I'm Nothing". The single will be backed by various remixes across three formats. The guest remixers are The KLF's Jimmy Cauty, Sneaker Pimps, Blue Amazon and Brothers in Rhythm.' Mark Turner "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "P. Stokes" Subject: (klf) New member Date: 31 Dec 1998 22:19:45 -0000 Although it was November when I first subscribed to this list, it has taken until now for my first contribution - I ought to make some sort of effort before the year ends. A good excuse would be that I have been watching the list to get a feel for the discussions but plain laziness is probably closer to the mark. Thanks must go to Whiggy for his WFTROM mix which is excellent. This is the first that I have heard of WFTROM and take pleasure at reporting the confusion, bewilderment, fright and curiosity that it has created amongst friends and family, as any KLF-related material should. No thanks to DJ KUTS for his hoax - good idea using Viagra in the title, but it was lacking in every other respect. I saved it to disk, so if anybody still wants the 4.5 minute Viva Viagra in real audio then drop me an e-mail ( pstokes@powernet.co.uk ) soon because I won't be keeping it for much longer. I've not got much of a collection (I've only got America:WTIL on vinyl other than what is fairly gettable in the stores) and I'm not too hot on technicalities, but I am interested in the path that Bill and Jimmy are following, and have a fair idea of what Gimpo must be like having spent 3 years living with a heavy drinking, drug abusing, sexually deviant Gulf War veteran with fragmented speech from Leeds who spent his summer breaks relaxing in the Bosnian peace keeping forces and bringing back little surprises to liven up Bonfire night a bit. I am also interested in the Twin Peaks connection (White Room/Black Room - White Lodge/Black Lodge) providing that there is one. Anyway I won't go on too much so have a top night out everyone. Happy new year. Pipster. Other Data : We came a long time ago. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: Re: (klf) New member Date: 01 Jan 1998 04:57:07 +0000 >No thanks to DJ KUTS for his hoax - good idea using Viagra in the title, but >it was lacking in every other respect. I saved it to disk, so if anybody >still wants the 4.5 minute Viva Viagra in real audio then drop me an e-mail >( pstokes@powernet.co.uk ) soon because I won't be keeping it for much >longer. FUCK OFF! BITCH! (ok, so I'm toofuckigndrunkrifghhtnowtofuckingcare,ifoyufuckingcarehyoubitch.I'mfuckgind runkandI'minapiisedpffpoffpfuckingpissedoffmoodsofuckingpissoffmyselfandfyou too :P Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://www.kosmic.org/~nemesis1 Free Your Mind - Remove the Brain :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stephen Ives Subject: Re: (klf) New member Date: 01 Jan 1998 12:54:26 -0800 Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson wrote: (ok, so I'm > toofuckigndrunkrifghhtnowtofuckingcare,ifoyufuckingcarehyoubitch.I'mfuckgind > runkandI'minapiisedpffpoffpfuckingpissedoffmoodsofuckingpissoffmyselfandfyou > too :P smoke-da-spliff-instead-man... eases confusion.... one for the real :: http://www.dd.com.hk/hoax23/profile.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf