From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #34 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Thursday, March 26 1998 Volume 01 : Number 034 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:22:22 From: Robert Kaub Subject: (klr650) GIVI Hard Tail Case OK Listers, here's the scoop from GIVI on the mount and hard case: #E127 @ $39.00 suggested retail. This is the adapter plate that permanently mounts to the existing luggage rack on the BACK of the KLR. #E40 @ $154.00 suggested retail. This is a 13 x 17 x 19.5 inch hard case, roughly rectangular in shape (Not all curvy and swoopy like the other GIVI cases). This case attaches to the adapter plate with a key operated lock, I assume the same key that locks and unlocks the case itself. This case also has an integral back rest, too. The E360 will also fit the adapter plate. Call GIVI in North Carolina @ 704-679-4123 and tell them your zip code and they'll give you info on nearest dealer to order from. Bob Kaub SUNY Binghamton Watson School Student Shop PO Box 6000 Binghamton, NY 13902 607-777-2715 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:29:44 -0700 From: Roy Cope Subject: Re: (klr650) Center Stand > >Does anybody know how much Dual Star is charging for their KLR center stand >and how long the wait is? Thanks > I put one on order a couple of weeks ago. I talked to Mike at Dual star I he told me the end of April, price about $170. Roy Cope ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:40:45 -0600 From: Jim Barthell Subject: Re: (klr650) GIVI Hard Tail Case Robert Kaub wrote: > OK Listers, here's the scoop from GIVI on the mount and hard case: > #E127 @ $39.00 suggested retail. This is the adapter plate that > permanently mounts to the existing luggage rack on the BACK of the KLR. > #E40 @ $154.00 suggested retail. This is a 13 x 17 x 19.5 inch hard case, > roughly rectangular in shape (Not all curvy and swoopy like the other GIVI > cases). This case attaches to the adapter plate with a key operated lock, > I assume the same key that locks and unlocks the case itself. This case > also has an integral back rest, too. The E360 will also fit the adapter plate. The E50 is available also, I don't know the price but I believe I used the E127 to mount it. I run them as side cases and topcase though I think most people would find them too wide for side cases. - -- Jim Barthell - TX '97 'C-O-O-O-W'...asaki KiLleR 650 FSSNOC #2421 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:46:01 -0800 From: frjsmithjr@webtv.net (Francis Smith) Subject: Re: (klr650) [Fwd: Chain Lube] Bill: I agree with you regarding chain care & lube. I usually use the WD-40 to clean the grit and accumulated lube off the chain at every other 300 mile lube interval. I use a product called Chain Wax. Jim '98 KLR Palmdale, CA. (where El Nino is now dumping on us.....AGAIN!!!!) ;-( ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:51:35 -0800 From: frjsmithjr@webtv.net (Francis Smith) Subject: Re: (klr650) Clearview Shield Evan: Don't know what to tell you. I've got a Clear- - -view +4 tinted on my '98, and the fairing screws fit flush without any problems. Jim '98 KLR Palmdale ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:01:57 -0500 From: "R. K. Dow" Subject: (klr650) KLR Horn Cameron Cole wrote: >While we are on the subject, has anyone performed surgery on the road >runner horn yet? It is a little weak not to mention it doesn't sound >like a KLR horn should. - ----------------------------------------------------- I mounted a pair of Fiams (using the supplied flat metal pieces) to the top, front engine bolt on the downtube. They cost about $25. I put some black, open cell foam behind the horn grills to keep out grunge and hot glued the seams. The are pretty loud and have held up for six years including a lot of offroad riding. I've heard that Hella horns are also good, but cost around $80. Good luck. Randy Dow ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:37:46 -0400 From: "Rick Clarke" Subject: Re: (klr650) Heat and coolant > Has anyone tried any of the well known cooling additives yet? It was > only 60 some odd today and in traffic my bike's temp gauge was pegged to > the right. I know these bikes run hot, but is that not a little much? > I hope it does not get worse when the temps hit 80s-90s, although I > don't see how it will be any better. Sounds like something is wrong with your system. Could be the gauge, sensor, fan, thermostat, etc. I've run Water Wetter in my street bike and it helps keep the temp down at the track in mid-summer. Water Wetter won't help much on mechanical problems though. - -Rick R.P.Clarke (rpclarke@mindspring.com) "What traffic?" RTP, NC, USA DoD#5811 ------------------------------ Date: 25 Mar 1998 14:44:03 -0700 From: "Pokluda, Gino F" Subject: (klr650) Center stand lift routine The trick to getting the KLR onto the Dual Star center stand is to get the bike vertical, put you left foot on center stand foot. Place left hand on front edge of fuel tank where it meets the top frame tube, place right hand on passenger foot peg bracket, or driveline services side rack or whatever and lift. Should go up pretty easy. If you are as strong as Kathleen, the right hand is optional and is free to use on a cell phone, beer, soda, etc.. ;-) Gino ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:37:10 -0700 From: Kurt Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Center Stand Bill Haycock wrote: > > Jim Barthell wrote: > > > > mcpete@juno.com wrote: > > > > > Now, it is a real bitch to put up on the stand, compared to my BMW's. I > > > mean we're talking almost hernia here. The KLR doesn't have convienent > > > grab handles. Maybe I use haven't learned the trick. > > > > > > Pete McMahon > > > > Yes, they are much more difficult than a bike that was designed to have one > > from the factory. I found the Corbin makes it difficult to get a hand on the > > passenger rail and that doesn't help either. It is easier to lift and push > > rearward at the same time. I can push against the GIVIs, Pete you have the > > Jesse bags, can you lean against those and get some leverage? > > > > -- > > Jim Barthell - TX > > > > '97 'C-O-O-O-W'...asaki KiLleR 650 > > FSSNOC #2421 > Yes, it is a little harder but then again one doesn't need to put it on > the center stand all the time - just when needed for tire or chain > service. I have not had a problem with it - have the Corbin seat too > and just have to grab the passenger handles, put a foot on the stand and > rock it back! > > Bill I read the other night that you can help yourself (at least in the garage) by creating an incline out of 1" x 5" X 24" attached to a 41/2 inch piece of 2"x4" layed flat. So, the idea is you roll the bugger up the little incline and then let it roll back onto the centerstand. Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:54:10 -0400 From: "Rick Clarke" Subject: Re: (klr650) PING-advice and dissent > In a message dated 3/24/98 4:15:32 PM, you wrote:(snip) > > >So I should run a high octane, ensuring that carbon builds up in my > >engine, which in turn makes it so I _have_ to run high octane? Sounds > >like great advice to me. (snip) > > >I too run 92 in my FZR, even though it should run on 86. > >I also run 89 in my KLR, even though it should run fine on 87. > > Rick, sounds to me like you're already taking that great advice :-) Yeah, I have trouble discerning light pinging over all the wind noise. I running the Clearview +7 and Stealth edging and still can't hear it. Just because I adhere to old school ways is no reason for me to not pass on new school thinking. I've seen a lot of well established "rules" fall by the wayside as new research shows more detail into true cause and effect. Shoot, when I was a kid, everyone said jerking off caused blindness. Careful exhaustive research proved otherwise. (If I can find my glasses I'll look up the references...) - -Rick R.P.Clarke (rpclarke@mindspring.com) "What traffic?" RTP, NC, USA DoD#5811 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:48:54 -0700 From: Kurt Simpson Subject: (klr650) Re: NKLR Center stand lift routine ala Kathleen... > > The trick to getting the KLR onto the Dual Star center stand is to get > the bike vertical, put you left foot on center stand foot. Place left > hand on front edge of fuel tank where it meets the top frame tube, place > right hand on passenger foot peg bracket, or driveline services side rack > or whatever and lift. Should go up pretty easy. > > If you are as strong as Kathleen, the right hand is optional and is free > to use on a cell phone, beer, soda, etc.. ;-) > > Gino No, Kathleen told me that she doesn't like to waste any time, so she uses the right hand to unlock the helmet lock, put the helmet loops through the lock while she is putting the bike on the center stand with her left hand...she first got the idea for it when watching reruns of the Ed Sullivan show and some Russian acrobats... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:09:53 -0600 From: "Jim & Melissa Sherlock" Subject: (klr650) Carburetion I have a question for you carb gurus out there. Today I went and ordered the jet kit for my KLR, after Fred said they were going out of production, I figured I'd better snag mine now. So far the only mod I've made to the fuel/intake/exhaust system is a K&N in the box air filter. I intend to add a Supertrapp IDS but that is down the road. My question is this: should I go ahead and re-jet the bike per kit instructions while running the stock pipe? Or should I wait until I have the Supertrapp to re-jet? I've got the baby torn down right for its post winter check-up and road readiness preparations and it would be a perfect time to do the carb. Please advise. Thanks, Jim Sherlock ps.. has anyone else had a hard time pulling the oil filter cover plate. Mine had major suction and it was real fun getting it off without prying on it, which I know is a no-no. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:17:32 EST From: MacGhuairi Subject: Re: (klr650) Any KLR Owners in Western WA? I live in Seattle and have just bought a '98 KLR. I have very limited riding skills but am very anxious to learn more. I work with a guy who has a Honda XR600 and is also interested in getting together. He has been riding for quite some time and is ready to explore the PNW. If you're interested drop me a line. MacGhuairi@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:34:53 -0800 From: Jean Philippe Bagel Subject: RE: (klr650) Any KLR Owners in Western WA? Give me a call @ work 425-936-4592 - -JP We're gonna smoke his Honda big time! - -----Original Message----- From: MacGhuairi [mailto:MacGhuairi@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 4:18 PM To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Any KLR Owners in Western WA? I live in Seattle and have just bought a '98 KLR. I have very limited riding skills but am very anxious to learn more. I work with a guy who has a Honda XR600 and is also interested in getting together. He has been riding for quite some time and is ready to explore the PNW. If you're interested drop me a line. MacGhuairi@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:53:03 -0600 From: Patrick Brand Subject: Re: (klr650) Center stand lift routine Pokluda, Gino F wrote: > > The trick to getting the KLR onto the Dual Star center stand is to get > the bike vertical, put you left foot on center stand foot. Place left > hand on front edge of fuel tank where it meets the top frame tube, place > right hand on passenger foot peg bracket, or driveline services side rack > or whatever and lift. Should go up pretty easy. > > If you are as strong as Kathleen, the right hand is optional and is free > to use on a cell phone, beer, soda, etc.. ;-) > > GinoGino, on the 97 or in any case mine there is no place to put your hand securely between the tank and frame. Dual Star should have a warning " causes hernia" stamped on the stand. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:59:18 EST From: Cloudhid Subject: Re: (klr650) klr cooling In a message dated 3/25/98 4:29:56 AM, you wrote: >I noticed the KLR in the base >manual had 2 radiators a left and a right. When did they go to the single >radiator configuration. Maybe everyone is right and no one is incorrect... >the engineers did design a cool running KLR and maybe it, (the design), was >modified after it went to production. 65degrees this morning on the way to >work and it sure did run sweet ;-) >-- >Jim Barthell - TX Jim, I won't ask where you were sitting when you discovered this. And I'm not saying where I was squatting when I verified your info. It does indeed appear the 600 has 2 separate radiators. Looks like they switched to the single set up with the intro of the 650. No word in either manual as to total surface area of the 600 or 650 radiator, but the 650 does have an additional 1/10th of a liter coolant capacity. Ron (who was sending .1 liter to it's spiritual destiny at the time) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:06:15 -0500 From: temsley@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Carburetion Jim, The jet kit solved alot of ridability problems for me. There is a decent increase in peppiness due to drilling the suction hole on the slide when you install the kit even without the pipe. The disadvantage is you will jet the bike twice if you put in the kit now. If it were me I would do it. By the way, I ended up with a 148 main by the time I got it dialed in. I'm at less than 500ft evevation. With my COBRA pipe I'm at a 155. I think if your bike was at my elevation with the Supertrapp on you'll be at around 152.5 or 150, without pipe or airbox mods 142.5 or 140. Don't forget to change the needle clip position from 3 to 4 when you put on the pipe. You'll enjoy it. Todd ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:06:30 EST From: Cloudhid Subject: Re: (klr650) [Fwd: Chain Lube] >Any O-ring chain lube will work fine - a number are on the market. >don't have to over lube. What I do on the road is every day at the end >of the day (300 miles or so) I wipe the chain clean with either >WD40(this will get some comments I'm sure) or just a clean rag. Then I >lube with Parafilm or any other O-ring chain lube. > >Others out there have suggestions? > >Bill Same routine for me Bill, except I use Chain Wax and instead of 300 miles a day, that would be about 2 weeks worth of riding on average for me. Ron (fully realizing I'm not getting enough saddle time) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:21:37 EST From: Cloudhid Subject: Re: (klr650) PING-advice and dissent >Yeah, I have trouble discerning light pinging over all the wind >noise. I running the Clearview +7 and Stealth edging and still can't >hear it. > >Just because I adhere to old school ways is no reason for me to not >pass on new school thinking. I've seen a lot of well established >"rules" fall by the wayside as new research shows more detail into >true cause and effect. Shoot, when I was a kid, everyone said jerking >off caused blindness. Careful exhaustive research proved otherwise. >(If I can find my glasses I'll look up the references...) > >-Rick Rick, please share any info you come by. Sometimes while I'm digesting out loud here, it might come across as adversarial, but I don't intend it to be. I tried to put down the pros and cons for myself, maybe you can add to or modify it. PRO.....may mean your engine is fully consuming the mixture (economical) PRO.....may contribute to cleaning your engine (convenient) CON.....if not monitored very carefully it may destroy your engine (uneconomical and inconvenient) Ron (I'm just a blind man with hairy palms) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:47:47 -0600 From: "alex jomarron" Subject: (klr650) Reflective tape There is an outfit in Lexington KY that is a police supplier named Galls. The number is 800-477-7766. They sell 3M Scotchlite tape (like the cops use) in 1", 2", 3" and 4" x 60" strips for 4.99, 7.99, 9.99, & 12.99 respectively. The colors are silver, gold, black, green, yellow, orange, red med blue, dk blue. I used black on my BMW bags and they reflect white and brightly I might add! The web address is www.gallsinc.com I'm going to order a roll soon. How about Green and Yellow for my Kawi? Alex Jomarron Oak Park, IL 88 BMW K75S 98 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:50:56 EST From: Cloudhid Subject: Re: (klr650) Reflective tape >The web address is www.gallsinc.com >I'm going to order a roll soon. How about Green and Yellow for my Kawi? > >Alex Jomarron Alex, while your ordering, please ask if they might consider whipping up a batch of our famous 'bluish-green' KLR color. Ron (trying to remain physically and color co-ordinated) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:43:41 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: (klr650) Fw: Moto TV > This should be pretty good. Enjoy! > >The National Geographic television show - featuring Lyle Lovett, >Malcolm Smith and Scot Harden riding KTMs through Chile - will air on >Sunday, March 29 at 7 p.m. on TBS. > > I was just sent this by Clark Collins of the Blue Ribbon Coalition. Sounds like an interesting show, maybe I'll have to fire up the old VCR. Fred Hink moabmc@lasal.net Arrowhead Motorsports http://cctr.umkc.edu/user/khink/moabmc/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:48:02 -0500 From: Thomas Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Heat and coolant Cameron Cole wrote: > > Has anyone tried any of the well known cooling additives yet? It was > only 60 some odd today and in traffic my bike's temp gauge was pegged to > the right. I know these bikes run hot, but is that not a little much? > I hope it does not get worse when the temps hit 80s-90s, although I > don't see how it will be any better. I have run mine in 100+ degree heat in the summer and have never had the needle go much over mid-gauege. I suspect that either the gauge is badly miscalibrated of you have a screwed up cooling system. - -Tom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:24:01 -0700 From: jfountain@webtv.net Subject: Re: (klr650) Center Stand I have got a solution for all of you center stand owners who are either too weak or too "smart" ( trying to keep my 'tude chilled with a pill like jim told me before) I had 47 messages when I got home today and I didn't see anything new to learn from since 90% consisted of how to use these stupid stands you guys paid $170.00 for and waited a year to receive.so here it is, my solution that is. go out and buy a engine hoist like I did from price club. mine lifts 4000lbs up to 98" off the floor so this might work for all you proud center stand owners and for the others who have every available bag and case and the like on the bike bringing the total weight to about 900lbs. the hoist cost me $180.00 total and has been some of the best money I have spent. jeff( too much of an asshole to waste time apologizing for his big mouth) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:36:44 EST From: Cloudhid Subject: Re: (klr650) Center Stand ?KLR Jeff, I'm dying to know....did you get your hoist anodized black? Ron (I refuse to apologize for a mouth my parents gave me) ==================================================== In a message dated 3/25/98 8:24:41 PM, you wrote: >I have got a solution for all of you center >stand owners who are either too weak or >too "smart" ( trying to keep my 'tude >chilled with a pill like jim told me before) >I had 47 messages when I got home today >and I didn't see anything new to learn >from since 90% consisted of how to use >these stupid stands you guys paid $170.00 >for and waited a year to receive.so here it >is, my solution that is. >go out and buy a engine hoist like I did >from price club. mine lifts 4000lbs up to >98" off the floor so this might work for >all you proud center stand owners and >for the others who have every available >bag and case and the like on the bike >bringing the total weight to about 900lbs. >the hoist cost me $180.00 total and has >been some of the best money I have >spent. >jeff( too much of an asshole to waste time >apologizing for his big mouth) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:52:34 -0600 From: Chadd Thompson Subject: Re: (klr650) Center Stand ?KLR At 11:36 PM 3/25/98 EST, you wrote: >Jeff, > >I'm dying to know....did you get your hoist anodized black? > >Ron (I refuse to apologize for a mouth my parents gave me) >==================================================== ROFLMAO :O) Thanks Chadd Thompson chadd@accessus.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:29:56 -0700 From: jfountain@webtv.net Subject: Re: (klr650) Center Stand ?KLR ron, that was good. no, I haven't got the hoist blacked out yet but in my haste to get my post out to the list, I realized that I may have only offered a solution to those needing to lift their bikes up in the garage. see I thought if you could just attach the hooks of the hoist to the bike, lift it, and then pull the center stand down , you could then lower the bike and there it would be - jacked up the whole 1" off the ground the center stand provides. but what do you do when your out on the road, and you find you have driven 301 miles( 1 mile over the unanomious list recommended chain lube point ) that is when your AAA membership comes in handy. you simply call them up, explain your inability to figure out a way to rock your bike back onto it's custom centerstand and they will send a tow truck out. have the tow truck lift the bike up for you, and then.... thats right!! you pull the center stand down. jeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:43:37 -0800 From: bosozoku@olywa.net Subject: Re: (klr650) Any KLR Owners in Western WA? >Hi all, > >I am looking for KLR owners in Western WA state (Seattle or Eastside) for >ride(s) recommendations and technical tips. > >I am looking into replacing the stock windshield and I am totally undecided. >It'd be great if I could share experience(s) with WA riders. > >Thanks in advance. > >jpbagel@microsoft.com Hey there, I am in Olympia. - - Jules bosozoku@olywa.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:48:53 -0700 From: Kurt Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Center Stand ?KLR At 10:29 PM 3/25/98 -0700, you wrote: >ron, that was good. >no, I haven't got the hoist blacked out yet >but in my haste to get my post out to the >list, I realized that I may have only offered >a solution to those needing to lift their >bikes up in the garage. see I thought if >you could just attach the hooks of the >hoist to the bike, lift it, and then pull the >center stand down , you could then >lower the bike and there it would be - >jacked up the whole 1" off the ground the >center stand provides. but what do you >do when your out on the road, and you >find you have driven 301 miles( 1 mile >over the unanomious list recommended >chain lube point ) that is when your AAA >membership comes in handy. you simply >call them up, explain your inability to >figure out a way to rock your bike back >onto it's custom centerstand and they >will send a tow truck out. have the tow >truck lift the bike up for you, and then.... >thats right!! you pull the center stand >down. >jeff > This idea might have some merit Jeff...if we are talking 300 mile intervals and a guy or gal from someplace with a short riding season...like...er...Minnesota...and assuming that they can time it so that most of the chain waxing is done on a swing at home...AAA plus RV gives them four (4) calls on the road. That would be just about enough to get them to Utah for the Moab Rally...now to get them home. OTOH, if they had the Jesse Panniers, they could disassemble the hoist and carry it with them... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:53:44 -0700 From: jfountain@webtv.net Subject: Re: (klr650) Center Stand ?KLR kurt, you and ron are a few steps ahead of me tonight. the panniers huh? thats good. jeff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:28:35 -0800 From: "Kathleen" Subject: Re: (klr650) Center Stand ?KLR Oh, my fellow lister's; Do I detect just a wee bit o' sarcasm in Jeff's post?? <<<
>>>> Kathleen (who doesn't need a centerstand or a hoist) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:17:02 -0600 From: Chadd Thompson Subject: (klr650) Tire pressure again. Sorry I know this was already covered but I was wondering what pressure you guys run in the Avon Gripsters? Thanks Chadd Thompson chadd@accessus.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:19:49 -0600 From: Jim Barthell Subject: Re: (klr650) Center Stand ?KLR jfountain@webtv.net wrote: > jacked up the whole 1" off the ground the > center stand provides. but what do you > do when your out on the road, and you > find you have driven 301 miles( 1 mile > over the unanomious list recommended > chain lube point ) that is when your AAA > membership comes in handy. you simply > call them up, explain your inability to > figure out a way to rock your bike back > onto it's custom centerstand and they > will send a tow truck out. have the tow > truck lift the bike up for you, and then.... > thats right!! you pull the center stand > down. Couldn't you just lube the chain while the tow truck had the bike up? Hey wait a minute! One thing I didn't see in anyones posts... Make sure the bike is in neutral or you'll definately bust a gut trying to wrestle it up on the stand. =8^0 - -- Jim Barthell - TX '97 'C-O-O-O-W'...asaki KiLleR 650 FSSNOC #2421 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:27:43 -0500 From: Kovach E Subject: Re: (klr650) Carburetion Yea, I had some difficulity but I think the trick is once you do get the the thing off is to put plenty of oil on the mating surfaces. In other words alittle foreplay goes along way. Evan >>> "Jim & Melissa Sherlock" 03/25/98 07:09PM >>> I have a question for you carb gurus out there. Today I went and ordered the jet kit for my KLR, after Fred said they were going out of production, I figured I'd better snag mine now. So far the only mod I've made to the fuel/intake/exhaust system is a K&N in the box air filter. I intend to add a Supertrapp IDS but that is down the road. My question is this: should I go ahead and re-jet the bike per kit instructions while running the stock pipe? Or should I wait until I have the Supertrapp to re-jet? I've got the baby torn down right for its post winter check-up and road readiness preparations and it would be a perfect time to do the carb. Please advise. Thanks, Jim Sherlock ps.. has anyone else had a hard time pulling the oil filter cover plate. Mine had major suction and it was real fun getting it off without prying on it, which I know is a no-no. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 98 05:51:17 PST From: "Marick Payton" Subject: (klr650) Lubing chain My newly acquired KLX is the first bike I've owned without a center stand (hope it's the last). So, I've been struggling with how to best lube the chain (tow truck, enroll in Charles Atlas course, etc.). A dirt donk buddy showed me a neat trick recently. You kneel on the left side of the bike, pull it up on the front tire (turned to the left) and the sidestand, balance it on your head as the third leg. This lets you use your right hand to turn the rear wheel while you spray with your left. I haven't tried it yet but it worked for him. Of course, he's a Chiropractor (the famous Doc Wong) and he may just be trying to increase his customer base. Marick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:02:59 EST From: Cloudhid Subject: Re: (klr650) Lubing chain I'm not saying whether I'm too weak, too lazy or too cheap........... but I make do without the convenience of a center stand. As you say, with the bars turned to the left, I balance the bike on the side stand, holding the bar with my left hand. My right hand holds the lube can while my right foot gently kicks the tire around. Never fails to make my wife laugh anyway. Ron (necessity is a mother of an invention) ======================================== In a message dated 3/26/98 5:52:02 AM, you wrote: >My newly acquired KLX is the first bike I've owned without a >center stand (hope it's the last). So, I've been struggling >with how to best lube the chain (tow truck, enroll in Charles >Atlas course, etc.). A dirt donk buddy showed me a neat trick >recently. You kneel on the left side of the bike, pull it up >on the front tire (turned to the left) and the sidestand, >balance it on your head as the third leg. This lets you use >your right hand to turn the rear wheel while you spray with >your left. I haven't tried it yet but it worked for him. Of >course, he's a Chiropractor (the famous Doc Wong) and he may >just be trying to increase his customer base. > >Marick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:26:00 -0500 From: Bill Haycock Subject: (klr650) Re: Wanted a KLR 650 in good condition. Brewslirp wrote: > > I am looking for a good KLR 650 in good condition. I would like one that is > less than 5 years old. I would like a bike that will get me into dual sport > riding and not bankrupt me. Willing to pay between 1000 and 2500 dollars. I > am in NC but will travel if the deal is right. Thanks for your help. I will post this ad on the KLR News Letter Web Site. Have you considered signing up on the KLR LIST Service and posting this ad? You can find out about the LIST service on the KLRDSN Web Page at: http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn Bill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:05:54 -0500 From: Bill Haycock Subject: Re: (klr650) Tire pressure again. Chadd Thompson wrote: > > Sorry I know this was already covered but I was wondering what pressure you > guys run in the Avon Gripsters? > > Thanks > Chadd Thompson > chadd@accessus.net I run 28 psi in front and 35 psi in the rear - don't ask me why! someone told me to I guess - I think it was my mechanic a number of years ago! Bill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:52:43 -0500 From: Thomas Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Lubing chain Marick Payton wrote: > > My newly acquired KLX is the first bike I've owned without a > center stand (hope it's the last). So, I've been struggling > with how to best lube the chain (tow truck, enroll in Charles > Atlas course, etc.). A dirt donk buddy showed me a neat trick > recently. You kneel on the left side of the bike, pull it up > on the front tire (turned to the left) and the sidestand, > balance it on your head as the third leg. This lets you use > your right hand to turn the rear wheel while you spray with > your left. I haven't tried it yet but it worked for him. Of > course, he's a Chiropractor (the famous Doc Wong) and he may > just be trying to increase his customer base. > Works for me and my KLR. I've been thinking of how to add a simple monopod to the other side in order to simulate a center stand (which I dont want to fool with- this things heavy enough as it is) or perhaps just add another kick stand to the other side. Any ideas in this? - -Tom '96 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:00:18 -0500 From: Kovach E Subject: Re: (klr650) Lubing chain I must be blessed to have a big enough garage to push or chase the killer far enough to get the whole thing oiled. Just how far does the thing roll before you reach the end/beginning of the chain anyhow. Do yer math so the garage or living room can be remodeled.. cio evan >>> Thomas Simpson 03/26/98 09:52AM >>> Marick Payton wrote: > > My newly acquired KLX is the first bike I've owned without a > center stand (hope it's the last). So, I've been struggling > with how to best lube the chain (tow truck, enroll in Charles > Atlas course, etc.). A dirt donk buddy showed me a neat trick > recently. You kneel on the left side of the bike, pull it up > on the front tire (turned to the left) and the sidestand, > balance it on your head as the third leg. This lets you use > your right hand to turn the rear wheel while you spray with > your left. I haven't tried it yet but it worked for him. Of > course, he's a Chiropractor (the famous Doc Wong) and he may > just be trying to increase his customer base. > Works for me and my KLR. I've been thinking of how to add a simple monopod to the other side in order to simulate a center stand (which I dont want to fool with- this things heavy enough as it is) or perhaps just add another kick stand to the other side. Any ideas in this? - -Tom '96 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:54:08 -0500 From: Cameron Cole Subject: RE: (klr650) Lubing chain I actually use my Blazers car jack to get my rear wheel up. The tabs on the top of the jack fit almost perfectly under the frame of the KLR. I have not tried the front wheel yet, but I bet the same jack will fit under the Moose skid plate and lift it up. Cost: $26,000 (Comes with a SUV) Hernia Probability: 0% Ease of Use: 5 Stars Portability: 1 Star, It is a real jack not one of those compact car jacks. My guess is that there are some other inexpensive ($50 or less) automotive jacks that will fit under the KLR for such jobs. When you are on the side of the rode broken down, you may be wishing for that center stand. > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas Simpson [SMTP:bullet@scsn.net] > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 9:53 AM > To: klr650@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (klr650) Lubing chain > > Marick Payton wrote: > > > > My newly acquired KLX is the first bike I've owned without a > > center stand (hope it's the last). So, I've been struggling > > with how to best lube the chain (tow truck, enroll in Charles > > Atlas course, etc.). A dirt donk buddy showed me a neat trick > > recently. You kneel on the left side of the bike, pull it up > > on the front tire (turned to the left) and the sidestand, > > balance it on your head as the third leg. This lets you use > > your right hand to turn the rear wheel while you spray with > > your left. I haven't tried it yet but it worked for him. Of > > course, he's a Chiropractor (the famous Doc Wong) and he may > > just be trying to increase his customer base. > > > > > Works for me and my KLR. I've been thinking of how to add > a simple monopod to the other side in order to simulate a > center stand (which I dont want to fool with- this things heavy > enough as it is) or perhaps just add another kick stand to the > other side. Any ideas in this? > > -Tom > '96 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:57:12 -0500 From: Cameron Cole Subject: RE: (klr650) Lubing chain Just so no one thinks I am an idiot, I had a small spelling error. The word "rode" should be "road". Need an email client with spell checker and grammar. > -----Original Message----- > From: Cameron Cole [SMTP:CameronC@msigroup.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 9:54 AM > To: 'klr650@lists.xmission.com' > Subject: RE: (klr650) Lubing chain > > I actually use my Blazers car jack to get my rear wheel up. The tabs > on > the top of the jack fit almost perfectly under the frame of the KLR. > I > have not tried the front wheel yet, but I bet the same jack will fit > under the Moose skid plate and lift it up. > > Cost: $26,000 (Comes with a SUV) > Hernia Probability: 0% > Ease of Use: 5 Stars > Portability: 1 Star, It is a real jack not one of those compact car > jacks. > > My guess is that there are some other inexpensive ($50 or less) > automotive jacks that will fit under the KLR for such jobs. When you > are on the side of the rode broken down, you may be wishing for that > center stand. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Thomas Simpson [SMTP:bullet@scsn.net] > > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 9:53 AM > > To: klr650@lists.xmission.com > > Subject: Re: (klr650) Lubing chain > > > > Marick Payton wrote: > > > > > > My newly acquired KLX is the first bike I've owned without a > > > center stand (hope it's the last). So, I've been struggling > > > with how to best lube the chain (tow truck, enroll in Charles > > > Atlas course, etc.). A dirt donk buddy showed me a neat trick > > > recently. You kneel on the left side of the bike, pull it up > > > on the front tire (turned to the left) and the sidestand, > > > balance it on your head as the third leg. This lets you use > > > your right hand to turn the rear wheel while you spray with > > > your left. I haven't tried it yet but it worked for him. Of > > > course, he's a Chiropractor (the famous Doc Wong) and he may > > > just be trying to increase his customer base. > > > > > > > > > Works for me and my KLR. I've been thinking of how to add > > a simple monopod to the other side in order to simulate a > > center stand (which I dont want to fool with- this things heavy > > enough as it is) or perhaps just add another kick stand to the > > other side. Any ideas in this? > > > > -Tom > > '96 KLR 650 ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V1 #34 ***************************