From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #59 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Friday, April 24 1998 Volume 01 : Number 059 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:52:27 -0400 From: Stuart Heaslet Subject: Re: (klr650) Two-up & Givi Tailtrunk Bob, Another consideration for two up riding is the gross weight limitation on the KLR. The manual says, "The maximum recommended load in addition to vehicle weight is 401 pounds, including rider, passenger, baggage, and accessories." 22 of these pounds can be over the rear rack, but no more. Unfortunately, this specification does not seem to agree with what KLR's really weigh (I'm using 425 pounds as my full fuel bike weight benchmark), so I've assumed that the real useful payload is closer to 375 pounds. And when I put loaded Al Jesse panniers on, the 22 pound limit aft of the seat will be exceeded. As a poster boy for Burger King, two up with baggage would push me into test pilot mode, according to the manual anyway... ;-) Stuart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:30:10 -0600 From: Roy Cope Subject: Re: (klr650) What to carry? > >I've always liked this one ;-) : > >http://www.roadkill.com/~davet/druth/packList.html > Looks like a shipping manifest for North American Van Lines. Roy Cope 96 KLR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 11:31:22 EDT From: Cloudhid Subject: (klr650) KLR GVW How right you are Fireball Stu. Has anyone here actually weighed their KLR? The listed dry weight (338lb) must not include gas, oil, coolant, lubes, brake fluid, wax, mods, luggage, or accumulated dust or rust. My GVW is 798lb, (labeled on frame below handlebars). So if I could only figure out how to do without all the above, I could load 460lb :-) One of these days when my wife isn't looking, I'm going to get the bathroom scale out to the garage. If one of you here wants to beat me to it, here's a site that describes the procedure. Weight & COG - calculate with bathroom scale Ron (the Pillsbury Dough Boy) *********************** In a message dated 4/22/98 7:53:29 AM, stuart@heaslet.com wrote: >Another consideration for two up riding is the gross weight limitation on >the KLR. The manual says, "The maximum recommended load in addition to >vehicle weight is 401 pounds, including rider, passenger, baggage, and >accessories." 22 of these pounds can be over the rear rack, but no more. >Unfortunately, this specification does not seem to agree with what KLR's >really weigh (I'm using 425 pounds as my full fuel bike weight benchmark), >so I've assumed that the real useful payload is closer to 375 pounds. And >when I put loaded Al Jesse panniers on, the 22 pound limit aft of the seat >will be exceeded. As a poster boy for Burger King, two up with baggage >would push me into test pilot mode, according to the manual anyway... >;-) > >Stuart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:38:33 -0400 From: Stuart Heaslet Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR GVW At 11:31 AM 4/22/98 -0400, Cloudhid wrote: >How right you are Fireball Stu. Geez. You reminded me again. ;-) Stuart "6.1 gallon fuel tanks aren't just for range. They start campfires, too." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:55:32 -0400 From: Kovach E Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR GVW gvw gvw the highest in the industry is claimed by BMW, the Hondabago for its design and intended purpose is the worst and most dangerous. cio evan..... >>> Stuart Heaslet 04/22/98 12:38PM >>> At 11:31 AM 4/22/98 -0400, Cloudhid wrote: >How right you are Fireball Stu. Geez. You reminded me again. ;-) Stuart "6.1 gallon fuel tanks aren't just for range. They start campfires, too." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:41:34 -0400 From: Jan & Diane Williams Subject: Re: (klr650) Bike Tie Down Fred Hink wrote: > > Hey Group! > > I'm in the development process of making some fork savers. A device that > will set on top of your front tire so you can compress the tire and not your > springs. I will have some made by the middle of this week that are made > specially for the KLR 650 and others too. They'll sell for $14.95 about $5 > cheaper than Acerbis flimsy little plastic goody. If anyone is interested > in one let me know. I'll also have some at the rally. > > Fred Hink > moabmc@lasal.net > Arrowhead Motorsports > http://cctr.umkc.edu/user/khink/moabmc/index.html Just wanted to let everyone know that I received my fork-saver from Fred a couple of days ago and can report that it works very well. It is constructed of heavy PVC pipe (black) with attached bungie cord for holding it in place while you cinch down the bike. The fork will compress about 2.5 inches before meeting the fork saver. I cinched down the superb Ancra tiedowns until the fork-saver was noticeably compressing the tire. With addition of rear tiedowns, the bike is extremely secure on the trailer. Anyone who trailers their KLR should think seriously about getting one of these devices from Fred. Jan - -- Jan & Diane Williams Forestville, NY jan.diane@ibm.net '97 KLR650 '95 ZG1000 (Concours) COG #29 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 13:19:33 +0100 From: Eric Dietiker Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Covergirl... One of my favorite comments was that you never get to make a fair comparison between today's bikes and bikes made 10 years ago, because you can never find brand new 10 year old bikes. Well, the KLR650 is just that - a living snapshot of 1980s engineering. Eric. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 15:07:07 -0700 From: beez@Cyra.COM (Christopher Beasley) Subject: (klr650) klr 250 Anyone have a nice klr250 for sale for my wife? Anybody know why these are so hard to come by used? Thanks! Chris 88-seca650 89-klr650 90-vfr750 Christopher J. Beasley beez@cyra.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:13:42 -0700 From: beez@Cyra.COM (Christopher Beasley) Subject: (klr650) Supertrapp questions 1) Is there more than one system available for my 89-killer from supertrapp? I'd like to get one that is fully stainless steel from the head back to the outlet tip. 2) What can I expect to pay, and who has the best prices? 3) Will I need the dynojet kit to get it running right after the exhaust upgrade? 4) Why do the stock exhaust systems rust out so fast? They say 'stainless steel' stamped right on the head pipe! Mine chirps at part throttle from the rusted out, leaking joint between the header and the tailpipe. Thanks! beez (newguy with an old KLR) Christopher J. Beasley beez@cyra.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 18:50:17 -0500 From: Chadd Thompson Subject: (klr650) Dual Star Stands? Hi, I was wondering if anyone has recieved their Dual Star Center stand yet? The last I heard was April, it is now mid/late april and I have not heard anything yet. Anyone have any info? Thanks Chadd Thompson chadd@accessus.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:14:02 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) What to carry? Robert Kaub wrote: > Does anybody have a suggestion for a SHORT list of tools/accessories to > carry while riding? Do you really need a tube and spark plugs, for example? I always have in the fender toolbag: Clutch lever, brake lever, gear lever and rubber gloves (for those dirty jobs). I have a Gearsack on a rack over the toolbag, but the toolbag is still accessible, but not real easy. In the Gearsack live the tools. Along with the standard factory tools I throw in a shifter big enough to do the axles, tyre levers and a puncture repair kit. Maybe a litre bottle of oil. Ah yes, and a top-of-the-line Swiss army knife on the belt. Mister_T - -- \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\ | RC17 KLR600 Roces BCN FreeBSD 2.2.5-R NT4W (ugh) | | tedp[at]replicant[dot]apana[dot]org[dot]au | \|_________________________________________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 20:48:04 EDT From: TRA1115 Subject: (klr650) OEM tires Does anyone know where I can find a Dunlop "K-750" 130/80-17" rear tire. This is the OEM tire that came on my bike in 1994......It's getting thin, but the front tire has lots of life left.........I just want to replace the rear right now. Thanks, Todd. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 18:48:42 -0700 From: "Darrel & Deanna" Subject: (klr650) CORBIN SEAT > Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 20:02:45 -0400 > From: "Germain Gagnon" > Subject: (klr650) Corbin seat > > The original seat of my KLR is not to bad for my point of view. For those > of you who got the Corbin seat, could you say it make a big difference. My > wife is complaining about the seat. Does it also make a big difference for > the passenger ? Germain- The Corbin makes a huge difference. It's wide and dished towards the back which supports my whole derrier and my upper legs. The front is actually narrower and lower than the stock seat so I can almost touch flat-footed with both feet at a stop (32" inseam). The Corbin is quite a bit firmer though and some might say too firm. They say it takes a while to "break-in". I haven't toted a passenger yet with the Corbin, but confident it is an improvement. Highly recommend it over stock. Darrel A12 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:50:10 -0400 From: temsley@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (klr650) gas mileage and no jets Bob, Those slots direct air into the radiator. Don't get rid of them. Todd A11 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:55:36 -0400 From: temsley@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR GVW Dry weight means dry. Todd (feeling like a feather at 185) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:59:52 -0400 From: temsley@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (klr650) OEM tires Todd, I don't think they are available retail. Besides, compared to my new Trailmax's, they blow. You don't want the stock tires. Todd A11 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:24:11 -0700 From: "Vikram Banerjee" Subject: (klr650) Multiple lights on a KLR650?? Hello all, I am the proud owner of a new '98 KLR650. Just came back from my first day of off road riding. It is a bit of a handfull in the technical stuff, but considering how it handles on road....I can live with that. So far I am very happy. I would like to increase the front lighting of the bike. Are there any of the shelf double or triple lamp systems for the KLR?...or any systems that can be modified? Cheers, Vik Calgary, Alberta ------------------------------ Date: 23 Apr 98 06:25:00 -0400 From: wechols@cbmaila.cb.lucent.com Subject: RE: (klr650) Corbin seat Question: Does the Corbin seat prevent the passenger from sliding into the driver at stops? ---------- From: Chadd Thompson[SMTP:chadd@accessus.net] Sent: Monday, April 20, 1998 7:23 PM To: Germain Gagnon Cc: klr650 Subject: Re: (klr650) Corbin seat At 08:02 PM 4/20/98 -0400, you wrote: >The original seat of my KLR is not to bad for my point of view. For those >of you who got the Corbin seat, could you say it make a big difference. My >wife is complaining about the seat. Does it also make a big difference for >the passenger ? > >Thank you > > I have the "Modified" Corbin and yes I can say that it made a big difference to my wife and I both. With the stock seat after riding 15-20 min my ass would be killing me. Now I can ride for literally hours before I even notice any discomfort. Makes riding much more enjoyable. Thanks Chadd Thompson chadd@accessus.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:39:29 EDT From: Cloudhid Subject: Re: (klr650) Multiple lights on a KLR650?? In a message dated 4/22/98 11:48:19 PM, marbach@nucleus.com wrote:snip >I would like to increase the front lighting of the bike. Are there any of >the shelf double or triple lamp systems for the KLR?...or any systems that >can be modified? Cheers, Vik Calgary, Alberta Congrats on the new bike Vik. Check out these 3 sites for light ideas. KLR650 Archives Tomsmods.htm Welcome to Motolight! Ron (with only a stocker to guide him) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:50:42 From: Robert Kaub Subject: (klr650) Clutch Switch Morning: Getting ready to take my '98 in for the 500 mile service although I have almost 800 miles on the bike. Yes, I did change the oil and filter and adjust the balancer chain at 500 miles. Anyway, the ONLY way my bike will start is in neutral with the clutch lever released (that is your hand is not on the clutch lever). If the bike is in gear, it cannot be started at all. This is a major pain in the ass if you stall in traffic as you have to get neutral and let go of the clutch lever to restart. Am I correct in assuming that the switch located under the clutch lever is bad or is there a neutral switch located somewhere in the transmission that is bad. I talked to the dealer and he seems a little confused. There aren't a lot of KLR's around this area and I don't think the dealer is especially familiar with this model. Thanks. Bob Kaub SUNY Binghamton Watson School Student Shop PO Box 6000 Binghamton, NY 13902 607-777-2715 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:56:41 EDT From: Cloudhid Subject: Re: (klr650) Clutch Switch There's an easy way to test it Bob. By-pass it and see if your troubles disappear. Safety switch bypass Ron (with a short in his right lobe) In a message dated 4/23/98 5:52:31 AM, rkaub@binghamton.edu wrote: >Morning: >Getting ready to take my '98 in for the 500 mile service although I have >almost 800 miles on the bike. Yes, I did change the oil and filter and >adjust the balancer chain at 500 miles. >Anyway, the ONLY way my bike will start is in neutral with the clutch lever >released (that is your hand is not on the clutch lever). If the bike is in >gear, it cannot be started at all. This is a major pain in the ass if you >stall in traffic as you have to get neutral and let go of the clutch lever >to restart. Am I correct in assuming that the switch located under the >clutch lever is bad or is there a neutral switch located somewhere in the >transmission that is bad. I talked to the dealer and he seems a little >confused. There aren't a lot of KLR's around this area and I don't think >the dealer is especially familiar with this model. Thanks. >Bob Kaub >SUNY Binghamton >Watson School Student Shop >PO Box 6000 >Binghamton, NY 13902 >607-777-2715 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 06:24:47 -0700 From: Erik Snider Subject: Re: (klr650) Multiple lights on a KLR650?? You may want to try Baja Designs http://www.bajadesigns.com/ . They have single and dual headlight kits. There was a recent article in Dirt Rider about their lights. At 4/22/98 , Vikram Banerjee wrote: >Hello all, > >I am the proud owner of a new '98 KLR650. Just came back from my first day >of off road riding. It is a bit of a handfull in the technical stuff, but >considering how it handles on road....I can live with that. So far I am >very happy. > >I would like to increase the front lighting of the bike. Are there any of >the shelf double or triple lamp systems for the KLR?...or any systems that >can be modified? > >Cheers, > >Vik >Calgary, Alberta > Erik Snider Purchasing Card Administrator AF208C4 619-651-0217 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:12:09 -0400 From: Sconzo Subject: Re: (klr650) Dual Star Stands? Chadd, I have one on order also, and have not received the center stand yet. Like you, I was told it would be sometime late April. Mike (think that was the guys name) said he couldn't give me a specific date, but that if I was patient it would be worth the wait. Think I can be patient until May 1. Be nice to know when you get yours. I live on the extreme opposite end of the country from Dual Star. Scott (Orlando dual-sporter) '98 KLR 650 Chadd Thompson wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if anyone has recieved their Dual Star Center stand > yet? The last I heard was April, it is now mid/late april and I have not > heard anything yet. Anyone have any info? > > Thanks > Chadd Thompson > chadd@accessus.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:37:24 -0400 From: Kovach E Subject: Re: RE: (klr650) Corbin seat NO >>> 04/23/98 06:25AM >>> Question: Does the Corbin seat prevent the passenger from sliding into the driver at stops? ---------- From: Chadd Thompson[SMTP:chadd@accessus.net] Sent: Monday, April 20, 1998 7:23 PM To: Germain Gagnon Cc: klr650 Subject: Re: (klr650) Corbin seat At 08:02 PM 4/20/98 -0400, you wrote: >The original seat of my KLR is not to bad for my point of view. For those >of you who got the Corbin seat, could you say it make a big difference. My >wife is complaining about the seat. Does it also make a big difference for >the passenger ? > >Thank you > > I have the "Modified" Corbin and yes I can say that it made a big difference to my wife and I both. With the stock seat after riding 15-20 min my ass would be killing me. Now I can ride for literally hours before I even notice any discomfort. Makes riding much more enjoyable. Thanks Chadd Thompson chadd@accessus.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:32:36 -0600 From: "Dave Watkins4" Subject: Re: (klr650) Multiple lights on a KLR650?? Vik, Glad to hear that you bought the 98! Other than the color, it's a great bike. I just picked up a 95 this week and am happy with it. Went out and did a little off-road stuff also. Again, not too bad but certainly not your average two stroke . Of course that't to be expected. My riding partner is new at the off-road stuff but he'll come along. Just keep at it. Knees tight and RPM's up. That's the ticket. At least you'll get the slippery stuff off the tires. I too am looking at increasing the lighting situation. Will let you know what I find locally. Dave Watkins Calgary, Alberta snip>> Vikram Banerjee wrote: > > Hello all, > > I am the proud owner of a new '98 KLR650. Just came back from my first day > of off road riding. It is a bit of a handfull in the technical stuff, but > > I would like to increase the front lighting of the bike. Are there any of > Cheers, > > Vik > Calgary, Alberta ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 02:24:59 EDT From: Cloudhid Subject: (klr650) o/~ Singin' the MOAB Blues o/~ =09It's sooooooo quiet in here!!!! =09=09Guess everbuddy'z at the Moab rally. =09In the immortal words of Leonard Cohen.................. =09=09"It's lonely here...........there's no one left to torture" >:=95 = Ron (singin' I just got my new seat, butt it's sittin' in the garage blue= z)=0A ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 02:46:00 -0500 From: mcpete@juno.com (Peter J McMahon) Subject: (klr650) McPete: Help! Jetting OK guys. I need help! I am in the process of installing a stage 1 dynojet kit. I have the tank off, now what? I had read on the list that I could just loosen the mainifold clamps, disconnect the throttle cables, and rotate the carb in place. Well, I sure don't see how! And how does the choke cable disconnect? Do I take the carb completely off? If so, how? help, I want to put this kit in tomorrow, Friday, and ride this weekend. Thanks! Pete McMahon _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 06:18:25 -0400 From: temsley@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Multiple lights on a KLR650?? Dave, What do you mean by "Knees tight and RPM's up. That's the ticket." You are on a 650cc single, not a 50cc 2-stroke. The rpm's can be as low as you want. Todd A11 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 07:50:35 -0400 From: Bill Wright Subject: (klr650) Lonely I guess I'm not the only one who couldn't make it to Moab. Bill Wright Hotlanta, GA. 98 KLR650 - 6116 miles (Singin' the Moab blues) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 08:22:32 From: Robert Kaub Subject: (klr650) ? Morning All That's Left: Where the hell is Moab? Is it in the bible? BTW, why is the rally held on the same weekend as the car show causing problems with lodging, etc? Why not have it on some other weekend? Thanks. Bob Kaub SUNY Binghamton Watson School Student Shop PO Box 6000 Binghamton, NY 13902 607-777-2715 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 08:46:12 -0400 From: Kovach E Subject: Re: (klr650) Lonely Hey Why dont we put together an east coast rally. Perhaps around the blue ridge parkway area I know Pineola was a great location for the BMW RA or the BOONE KOA is very happy to get motorcyclist and then there is the cycle camp for two wheels only. I don't see where we would have any organizing too do other than geeting the word out. Lets get this thing going. I sure someone is out there that can get this ball rolling. >>> Bill Wright 04/24/98 07:50AM >>> I guess I'm not the only one who couldn't make it to Moab. Bill Wright Hotlanta, GA. 98 KLR650 - 6116 miles (Singin' the Moab blues) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:02:47 -0400 From: Stuart Heaslet Subject: Re: (klr650) o/~ Singin' the MOAB Blues o/~ Does this mean that we can assume Kurt is away and we can start chomping on bandwidth? Sounds like Moab will be a testosterone-laden event with few women...so as Cohen says, "She's a hundred but wearing somethin' tight..." Stuart At 02:24 AM 4/24/98 -0400, Cloudhid wrote: > > It's sooooooo quiet in here!!!! > > Guess everbuddy'z at the Moab rally. > > In the immortal words of Leonard Cohen.................. > > "It's lonely here...........there's no one left to torture" >:=95 =20 > >Ron (singin' I just got my new seat, butt it's sittin' in the garage bluez)= > > > >=20 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:01:29 -0700 From: Tom Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Lonely At 08:46 AM 4/24/98 -0400, you wrote: >Hey >Why dont we put together an east coast rally. Perhaps around the blue ridge parkway area I know Pineola was a great location for the BMW RA or the BOONE KOA is very happy to get motorcyclist and then there is the cycle camp for two wheels only. I don't see where we would have any organizing too do other than geeting the word out. Lets get this thing going. I sure someone is out there that can get this ball rolling. > > >>>> Bill Wright 04/24/98 07:50AM >>> >I guess I'm not the only one who couldn't make it to Moab. > >Bill Wright >Hotlanta, GA. >98 KLR650 - 6116 miles (Singin' the Moab blues) Personaly, I going to do my best to make the Beamer rally coming up at Hiawasee, GA (starts 2 May, I belive) into a KLR rally. They have a nice dual sport ride for the GS people and I realy emjoyed myself last year. My R60/7 is down for head work anyway. Oh, well. :) - -Tom '96 KLR 650 with BMW MOA sticker on windshield. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:26:03 +0000 From: snsi@win.bright.net Subject: Re: (klr650) Lonely Tom wrote: > Personaly, I going to do my best to make the Beamer rally coming up at > Hiawasee, > GA (starts 2 May, I belive) into a KLR rally. They have a nice dual sport > ride for the GS people and I realy emjoyed myself last year. My R60/7 is > down for head work anyway. Oh, well. :) I've been thinking of selling "My other bike is a BMW" stickers to the list. Ya think there's a market?:) Jeff Smith Barnes, WI '71 A-HD Sprint 350; '97 Kawasaki KLR650 (King o'La Road) "Beware the dirt bike ... Ground shaking dirt bike" TMBG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 08:42:10 -0700 From: Jean Philippe Bagel Subject: RE: (klr650) Lonely Speaking of stickers... you guy know where to get nice ones. My helmet is a tad too boring to my liking... I went to the KAWA dealer yesterday and they have some nice ones, but I was was just wondering if -for instance- anyone knew of reflective stickers? - -JP - -----Original Message----- From: snsi@win.bright.net [mailto:snsi@win.bright.net] Sent: Friday, April 24, 1998 3:26 AM To: bullet@scsn.net Cc: klr650@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Lonely Tom wrote: > Personaly, I going to do my best to make the Beamer rally coming up at > Hiawasee, > GA (starts 2 May, I belive) into a KLR rally. They have a nice dual sport > ride for the GS people and I realy emjoyed myself last year. My R60/7 is > down for head work anyway. Oh, well. :) I've been thinking of selling "My other bike is a BMW" stickers to the list. Ya think there's a market?:) Jeff Smith Barnes, WI '71 A-HD Sprint 350; '97 Kawasaki KLR650 (King o'La Road) "Beware the dirt bike ... Ground shaking dirt bike" TMBG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:44:32 +0000 From: snsi@win.bright.net Subject: (klr650) Re: Lonely Tom wrote: > Personaly, I going to do my best to make the Beamer rally coming up > at Hiawasee, GA (starts 2 May, I belive) into a KLR rally. They have > a nice dual sport ride for the GS people and I realy emjoyed myself > last year. My R60/7 is down for head work anyway. Oh, well. :) I've been thinking of selling "My other bike is a BMW" stickers to the list. Ya think there's a market?:) Jeff Smith Barnes, WI '71 A-HD Sprint 350; '97 Kawasaki KLR650 (King o'La Road) "Beware the dirt bike ... Ground shaking dirt bike" TMBG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:53:03 -0500 From: mcpete@juno.com (Peter J McMahon) Subject: (klr650) Moab and ?'s Fred, Hope all is going well at the KLR rally. Would you please informally survey the guys and see what kind of chain and sprocket kit is the most popular and reliable set-up? I have heard good things about both AFAM and Regina. I need to replace my original chain and sprocket. Want to stay w/ stock gearing. Let me know what it is and how much $ so I can get it ordered from you. I just finished installing the Dynojet kit, stage 1. Took about 1 1/2 CD's of reggae to do. Really, the hardest part was the worrying I did before I did it. Very easy. Now, I need to take it out and see how it performs!!! Greetings to all, good weather, no flats, and soft landings. Pete McMahon _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:23:10 From: Robert Kaub Subject: (klr650) Side racks for Givi Bags Hello those of us left: Does anybody have any experience with the Givi side racks for the KLR650? I talked to Givi today and they are phasing out the German manufactured side racks (#PL127A @ $128.50) for racks manufactured by Givi. The Givi made racks should be available in a couple of months. There are German racks still available. Anybody have any comments? Thanks. Bob Kaub SUNY Binghamton Watson School Student Shop PO Box 6000 Binghamton, NY 13902 607-777-2715 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:04:07 -0700 From: "Robert Morgan" Subject: Re: (klr650) o/~ Singin' the MOAB Blues o/~ Hey I didn't get to go either. At least its a chance to talk behind everyone's back.....just kidding. peace Morgan. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:53:05 -0500 From: Ed Subject: Re: (klr650) Lonely I'm not sure the BMW RA rally was too hot. Sounds to me like they were not well recieved. Was thinking that a mid-west get together might be a good idea also. Maybe in Wisconsin, it is off road friendly, good camping, good cheese/brats and beer what else does one need. Later Ed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 18:58:43 EDT From: Cloudhid Subject: Re: (klr650) LKLR Lonely In a message dated 98-04-24 17:53:30 EDT, etonline@radiks.net writes: << Maybe in Wisconsin, it is off road friendly, good camping, good cheese/brats and beer what else does one need. >> Ed Love the land, cheese, suds, and the people....but I'd miss the ocean;-) California Ron ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 21:47:38 EDT From: Cloudhid Subject: (klr650) Natural Born Killer (microscopic KLR content) Should've figured Fireball Stu was a Cohen fan. I offer these Cohen lines; Your private life will suddenly explode There'll be phantoms, There'll be fires on the road...(The Future) or There's a blaze of light in every word.........(Hallelujah) or Dance me to your beauty with a burning violin......(End of Love) or not you with your burning breast........(This Wretch) or I don't like to see a burning flag because it excites the killers on either side...(The Killers) or And who are you? she sternly spoke to the one beneath the smoke. Why I am fire, he replied.............(Joan of Arc) or Let your mercy spill on all these burning hearts in hell..(Your Will) Finally, I'm sure he will dedicate his song "Who by Fire" to you Stu. Ron (with way too much time on his hands today) ************************************** In a message dated 4/24/98 6:03:58 AM, stuart@heaslet.com wrote: >Does this mean that we can assume Kurt is away and we can start chomping on >bandwidth? Sounds like Moab will be a testosterone-laden event with few >women...so as Cohen says, "She's a hundred but wearing somethin' tight..." >Stuart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 21:16:39 -0700 From: "Ryan" Subject: (klr650) Need Kawi Luggage! MY NERVES ARE WEARING VERY THIN! I've been trying to locate a Kawi Soft Luggage System (tank bag, tail bag, and saddle bags) for nearly three weeks now without success. I am really starting to get worried because I am leaving for my summer job on the first of May and I'm depending on my trusty KLR to transport my junk and I to work. I will be working on a fiber optics line between Vancouver (BC) and Montreal (Quebec) and the job will involve moving from town to town every week or two. So I need to get some luggage on my bike by next Friday, or I'll be going to Calgary with nothing more than what I can carry in my pockets. I really like the idea of the Kawi luggage setup -- according to Gino's reviews it sounds very durable and functional. If I had the money I'd order the Aerostitch Setup like all of you poster boys... but alas, I'm just a poor university student and money dosen't grow on trees you know. A week ago, I first ordered through Headingley Sports in Winnipeg. Initially, they said they could get the luggage for me by May 1st, but today they called me with the news that the luggage is backordered and has to come all the way from Japan! So I cancelled the order and immediately phoned 11 different American Kawi dealers trying to find one with the luggage in stock. No luck. Now what???? Anyone have any suggestions? Has anyone recently seen the Kawi luggage system at their local bike shop. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!! Thanx, Ryan Orr '93 KLR650 - 6000kms Vancouver BC 1-604-221-9873 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:25:49 -0600 From: "Dave Watkins4" Subject: (klr650) Re: "Knees tight and RPM's up" Todd, You mentioned that I am "are on a 650cc single, not a 50cc 2-stroke" Precisely the point. I'll explain my comments and toss myself to the mercy of the list. First, let me say that when I was first learning the art of off road riding I was constantly stalling and either dropping the bike or finding myself holding it up as it slid out from under me at VERY low speeds. I also had a bad habit of trying to prevent a fall by stePping down while the bike was moving, albeit very slowly. One of the chaps I was riding with advised me to "Knees tight and RPM's up". Here's my view on his, and now my, comments. RPM's up --- With a two stroke there is a sharper "response curve" and a big difference in the gearing. If you get caught in a soft/slippery/technical spot and the bike starts to bog down a quick crack of the throttle may get you out of it. If you're somewhat hesitant about what you are doing you may find yourself in a higher gear than you should as you slow down. All of a sudden you need to accelerate and find that you are in too high a gear with too low RPM's. Not the place to be, IMHO. My solution is to keep the RPM's up a bit by running a little closer to the shift point. If I need that shot of energy I know it will be there. "Knees tight and ......." I mentioned my mentor earlier. He advised me to keep the "knees tight" when in the technical stuff. Firstly, let me say that the knees are perhaps the best shock absorbers we've got. Having said that I also like to keep a bit of inward pressure on the tank when riding. Just like riding a horse, I can feel what's happening with the bike this way. This method provides me with an additional two contact points to the bike. I also acknowledge the need to make the bike go where you want it to. I've seen some riders who can "bully" their bike into whatever moves they want it to do. Personally I'd rather let the bike do the work and use a little finesse. Also, now that I keep the knees tight I don't find myself putting the foot down needlessly. Hope this clarifies my earlier post. Dave Watkins Calgary, Alberta > Dave, > > What do you mean by "Knees tight and RPM's up. That's the ticket." You > are on a 650cc single, not a 50cc 2-stroke. The rpm's can be as low as > you want. > > Todd > A11 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 00:54:22 EDT From: Cloudhid Subject: Re: (klr650) Need Kawi Luggage! In a message dated 4/24/98 9:18:16 PM, lury@axionet.com wrote: >phoned 11 different American Kawi dealers trying to find one with the >luggage in stock. No luck. Now what???? Anyone have any suggestions? Has >anyone recently seen the Kawi luggage system at their local bike shop. Any >help would be greatly appreciated!!!! >Thanx, >Ryan Orr Ryan, Fred Hink said he was going to have a few sets for the rally. Email him at; moabmc@lasal.net He may not get right back to you cause of the rally. Ron (Natural Born Killer) ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V1 #59 ***************************