From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #67 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Saturday, May 2 1998 Volume 01 : Number 067 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 09:18:00 -0600 From: Kurt Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Sprockets...and Arrowhead... > Second, didn't Gino talk about (in the newsletter some time back) a > preference to maintain even or odd-numbered sprocket teeth on each pair of > sprockets on a bike, IOW, don't mix even and odd numbered sprockets on the > same bike? Anybody know about this or am I up a tree by myself on this one? No..you are not...it came from advice given by Jake Jakeman who says the odd numbered arrangment produces a "hunting tooth effect". Jake has explained this to me at least three times (the last in my RV about midnight the last night before leaving Moab) and I still don't get it...so until someone else can help me understand this I have to put it in the same category as the rpm thing... I have to thank you Stuart, in trying to find the reference for "hunting tooth" I paged through a back issue of DSN and found a reference to a company that makes 16 tooth sprockets for KLR's...I'll check them out and let the list know. > Stuart > > - -- Kurt Simpson KLR650 A12 OB HawkGT '89 FS XS-650 '77 FS XS-650 '79 FS XS-650 '80 FS Ask me how to subscribe to the KLR Dual Sport Newsletter. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 09:24:30 -0600 From: Kurt Simpson Subject: (klr650) Top of the Line luggage racks... In Moab I had a chance to personally examine one of the Top of the line luggage racks that Gino reviewed in the May/June 1997 issue of DSN. I was impressed, I'm thinking that I'll be able to mount my Kawi tail bag on the rack perpendicular to the bike and get the best of both worlds. I can take the bag off when I want the bigger rack underneath; I can use the tail bag without having to give up passenger space. So, here is some update info for those who might be interested: Touring Trends (distributor for TOL luggage plates) has been sold. The new owner's name is Jeff. You best ask for him because anyone else will tell you they do not make parts for the KLR. Jeff did not purchase knowledge rights from the former owner Frank Walker and so does not have the templates sent by Gino to make the plates directly for the KLR. So, it will be up to us to do the mods (which seem limited to pulling our plate and using it as a template and drilling two new holes). The part # is BMW-002. They no longer sell to the public and you have to order through a dealer. I have asked Fred to call them to become a distributor. You can call Jeff at 1-800-782-4686. - -- Kurt Simpson KLR650 A12 OB HawkGT '89 FS XS-650 '77 FS XS-650 '79 FS XS-650 '80 FS Ask me how to subscribe to the KLR Dual Sport Newsletter. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 10:54:18 -0500 From: Jim Barthell Subject: (klr650) Parts wanted Since many of you seem to replace some of the OEM parts I really like, I thought there may be a win/win opportunity here. I'd be interested in hearing from folks who may have any of the following OEM parts available: Footpegs Muffler (in pre-VW sounding condition... visual condition is not as important) Air-filter Gas tank (6.1 gallon version if there is more than one style.) Most any of the pieces from a post '96 model (spares) Thanks in advance, - -- Jim Barthell - TX '97 'C-O-O-O-W'...asaki KiLleR 650 FSSNOC #2421 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 12:02:52 EDT From: Cloudhid Subject: (klr650) Sprocket to me..... In a message dated 5/1/98 8:28:07 AM, ajax@xmission.com wrote:snip >I have to thank you Stuart, in trying to find the reference >for "hunting tooth" I paged through a back issue of DSN and >found a reference to a company that makes 16 tooth sprockets >for KLR's...I'll check them out and let the list know. My confusion compounds. I can't speak for your '98, but my '96 stock rear is a 43 tufus, (15 front). So is it preferable to put a 16 on the countershaft rather than a 17 ? Ron (A10, who is frequently Confucius) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 12:16:33 -0400 From: "Robert frey" Subject: (klr650) Whistling KLR My son's got a '93 KLR650 and it whistles! Mostly at idle and just off idle, disappears with more open throttle. We already blew out the spark arrestor and can't figure out where there might be some blockage and how to get to it. It doesn't hurt the machines performance. Anybody else got a whistler? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 10:12:57 -0600 From: Kurt Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Sprocket to me..... That is what Stuart is asking. I don't want to go up 2 teeth until I can see the effect of just 1. I already have heard people report that a fully loaded KLR has trouble holding its own in a headwind. So, again, the point is that it looks to me like the 15 is a compromise and a 14 - 16 would be better. Jake uses a 13/15 on a rear 39 and maybe that is a better combination. Or, is it just like the rpm thing? What exactly is "the hunting tooth effect" is it similar to a "passing gear"? (;-) Cloudhid wrote: > > In a message dated 5/1/98 8:28:07 AM, ajax@xmission.com wrote:snip > >I have to thank you Stuart, in trying to find the reference > >for "hunting tooth" I paged through a back issue of DSN and > >found a reference to a company that makes 16 tooth sprockets > >for KLR's...I'll check them out and let the list know. > > My confusion compounds. I can't speak for your '98, but my '96 > stock rear is a 43 tufus, (15 front). So is it preferable to put > a 16 on the countershaft rather than a 17 ? > Ron (A10, who is frequently Confucius) - -- Kurt Simpson KLR650 A12 OB HawkGT '89 FS XS-650 '77 FS XS-650 '79 FS XS-650 '80 FS Ask me how to subscribe to the KLR Dual Sport Newsletter. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 10:15:02 -0600 From: Kurt Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Whistling KLR Mine just started a whistling (sounds like a vacuum leak) when the choke is engaged...goes away when the choke is off. Robert frey wrote: > > My son's got a '93 KLR650 and it whistles! Mostly at idle and just off idle, > disappears with more open throttle. We already blew out the spark arrestor > and can't figure out where there might be some blockage and how to get to > it. It doesn't hurt the machines performance. Anybody else got a whistler? - -- Kurt Simpson KLR650 A12 OB HawkGT '89 FS XS-650 '77 FS XS-650 '79 FS XS-650 '80 FS Ask me how to subscribe to the KLR Dual Sport Newsletter. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 12:47:37 -0400 From: Stuart Heaslet Subject: Re: (klr650) Sprockets...and Arrowhead... Kurt: I don't understand what Jake means either, and maybe he can help us out here. But I've had experience with a sort of "hunting tooth" effect on bicycles, and while I'm hesitant to draw an analogy in this case, the experience has been with over 200,000 miles of competitiion road, sprint and pursuit riding experience approximately 70 pounds ago. I found that if I ran a certain front and rear sprocket set on the same chain for extended miles, then tried to run a new chain on the old sprockets, or an old chain on new sprockets, that the chain lifted off the sprocket and skipped. Chains stretch, sprockets wear. I usually ran Regina Gold (Oro) components which wore better than regular steel sprockets and chains. The skipping, or "hunting tooth" behavior happened mostly during acceleration (hence the high squeaky voice) or very low torque conditions. A steady pressure managed to keep the chain on the sprocket. Most of the skipping problems happened on the smaller sprockets (13-23 teeth), though it also happened on the larger chainwheels (45-52 teeth). From then on I made sure that driveline sets were fully replaced and matched in age and condition - even to the point of making sure the older chains were always reinstalled in the same direction when corresponding sprocket sets were changed. It did not matter whether the gears were even or odd - toothed. Stuart >...from advice given by Jake Jakeman >who says the odd numbered arrangment produces a "hunting >tooth effect". Jake has explained this to me at least three >times (the last in my RV about midnight the last night >before leaving Moab) and I still don't get it...so until >someone else can help me understand this I have to put it in >the same category as the rpm thing... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 13:00:08 -0400 From: Stuart Heaslet Subject: Re: (klr650) Sprocket to me..... Kurt, Jake's contention is that we can always drop a gear, so maybe the compromise should take into account the number of windy days actually encountered. I know that I can almost "hear" the fuel pouring through the carb when battling a 30 mph headwind, and I've been guilty of removing my Joe Rocket just to reduce the drag profile. (After Gino though, I don't think I'll do that anymore.) Stuart I already have heard >people report that a fully loaded KLR has trouble holding >its own in a headwind. So, again, the point is that it looks >to me like the 15 is a compromise and a 14 - 16 would be >better. Jake uses a 13/15 on a rear 39 and maybe that is a >better combination. Or, is it just like the rpm thing? What >exactly is "the hunting tooth effect" is it similar to a >"passing gear"? (;-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 13:47:22 -0500 From: Jim Barthell Subject: Re: (klr650) Whistling KLR Kurt Simpson wrote: > Mine just started a whistling (sounds like a vacuum leak) > when the choke is engaged...goes away when the choke is off. > > Robert frey wrote: > > > > My son's got a '93 KLR650 and it whistles! Mostly at idle and just off idle, > > disappears with more open throttle. We already blew out the spark arrestor > > and can't figure out where there might be some blockage and how to get to > > it. It doesn't hurt the machines performance. Anybody else got a whistler? Does it sound like a VW Beetle??? If yes, I had my muffler replaced under warranty for this, "blown internal baffles" I said to the service manager, "I read about it on the internet and it should be replaced under warranty"... they did. - -- Jim Barthell - TX '97 'C-O-O-O-W'...asaki KiLleR 650 FSSNOC #2421 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 12:41:22 -0700 From: beez@Cyra.COM (Christopher Beasley) Subject: Re: (klr650) Whistling KLR Oh, So that's what that noise is. I have had this for so long I'm kinda used to it. Most of the other KLR's I've seen on the road do it too. I think I have mine isolated to the joint between the header and the tailpipe. It leaks there. With more gas on the leak goes ultrasonic. It's still there, only my dog can hear it. :-) Hopefully my SuperTrapp will be in on monday and the whistle will go away. I'll keep ya 'posted'. b At 01:47 PM 5/1/98 -0500, Jim Barthell wrote: >Kurt Simpson wrote: > >> Mine just started a whistling (sounds like a vacuum leak) >> when the choke is engaged...goes away when the choke is off. >> >> Robert frey wrote: >> > >> > My son's got a '93 KLR650 and it whistles! Mostly at idle and just off idle, >> > disappears with more open throttle. We already blew out the spark arrestor >> > and can't figure out where there might be some blockage and how to get to >> > it. It doesn't hurt the machines performance. Anybody else got a whistler? > >Does it sound like a VW Beetle??? If yes, I had my muffler replaced under warranty >for this, "blown internal baffles" I said to the service manager, "I read about it >on the internet and it should be replaced under warranty"... they did. > >-- >Jim Barthell - TX > >'97 'C-O-O-O-W'...asaki KiLleR 650 >FSSNOC #2421 > > > > > Christopher J. Beasley beez@cyra.com ------------------------------ Date: 01 May 1998 13:40:59 -0600 From: "Pokluda, Gino F" Subject: (klr650) IRC GP110 >>The aggresive looking treads are GP 110's. I like 'em on street and >>just less than stock on dirt. Only have 1000 miles on them...947 miles >>of it at Moab....so will withhold further comment, but others have more >>experience with GP110's....anybody? I'm kinda fond of the GP110. It's round and black and has done well for me. They have gone up in price though, and for a few dollars more, you can get into a set of Gripsters which seem to get better mileage. I'll have about 11K on my front GP110 by the time it is ready to be replaced and the rears seem to last about 6-7K miles. They hook up okay on most stuff you would take a KLR through and I love the way they howl when you lean hard into a curve on pavement. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 16:26:23 -0400 From: Peter Dahlheimer Subject: (klr650) co2 Hi. Tryinta prepare for my first long-distance road trip, "Boynton or Bust '98", leaving NJ on 5/8. Just received Travelcade seat kit, highway pegs, NEP throttle lock, gel grips, gel gloves. Hoping that my friends JC Whitney bolt-on windshield will fit my bike. Also bought a tire repair kit, which comes with three CO2 containers. Is that enough to fill a tube? Any suggestions for a newbie long-distance cruiser welcome. thanks. _pete 97KLR650 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 16:28:54 -0400 From: Peter Dahlheimer Subject: (klr650) highway pegs No instructions came with the highway pegs. Any suggestions/comments from anyone experienced? _pete 97KLR650 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 17:09:58 -0400 From: "Michael Magnatta" Subject: Re: (klr650) 55/100 v. 80/100 bulb upgrade Eric: I've running a 90/100w bulb for quite a long time with no fuse blowing problems. Someone a month or so ago mentioned that they suspected vibration may be responsible for intermittent and undetectable fuse blowing. Recently I replaced the two old glass style fuses on my '89 with two new automotive blade style fuseholders and fuses. Cheap insurance, I think... Michael Magnatta - -----Original Message----- From: Eric Dietiker To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Friday, May 01, 1998 2:15 AM Subject: Re: (klr650) 55/100 v. 80/100 bulb upgrade When I bought my KLR used, it had a 55/100 bulb in it. I had repeated problems with the fuse blowing, so I finally put the stock bulb back in. Eric. >Just a thought abou t upgrading the lighting on the KLRs. >Feedback from you engineering types is welcome AND encouraged! > >Considering the frailties of the stock wiring it makes sense (to me) to >use a 55/100 as opposed >to the 80/100. The low beam constantly burns. The 80 will place in >increased burden on the >wires. I would believe you would only need the high beam at night (no >snickering), and limited >use at that (in most case). Thereby limiting the abuse to the wires. >So, whaddya think??? > >Alex Jomarron >Oak Park, IL >88 BMW K75S >98 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 14:27:12 -0700 From: James Dukes Subject: (klr650) Moose skidplate... I have had a moose skidplate on order from my local dealer since January, and it is still backordered. As I recall there is somebody else on this list who has one backordered through Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse. Could that somebody let me know if that is still true? I'm just wondering if there is a backorder problem with just our local distributer ( I'm assuming Parts Unlimited) or if all distribution channels are affected and I just have to hang in there and wait. - -Jim - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Dukes (503)613-5019 jdukes@ichips.intel.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 18:05:58 -0400 From: "J. Taylor" Subject: [Fwd: Re: (klr650) co2] Message-ID: <354A45D8.2B32@mediaone.net> Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 17:59:52 -0400 From: "J. Taylor" Reply-To: klr650@mediaone.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Dahlheimer Subject: Re: (klr650) co2 References: <354A2FEE.B79C94F7@umdnj.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pete: I had to use 2 co2 cylinders to refill mr rear tire but I should add that the cylinders were old, one of which my friend had already attached to the valve adapter so I don't know for sure if 2 was REALLY required. I have since filled each tire with SLIME and have suffered 0! flats, leaks, etc. (even after pulling 2 nails out approx. 6 wks ago.) Cheap ($3-5) for a bottle at your local Target store. BTW, are you headed to Boynton Beach, FLA? If so, I live in Jacksonville, FL, approx 3-4 hrs north on I-95. Let me know if you need anything, I'll be happy to forward info for assistance, etc. Jake Taylor Peter Dahlheimer wrote: > > Hi. Tryinta prepare for my first long-distance road trip, "Boynton or > Bust '98", leaving NJ on 5/8. > Just received Travelcade seat kit, highway pegs, NEP throttle lock, gel > grips, gel gloves. Hoping > that my friends JC Whitney bolt-on windshield will fit my bike. Also > bought a tire repair kit, which > comes with three CO2 containers. Is that enough to fill a tube? > > Any suggestions for a newbie long-distance cruiser welcome. > > thanks. > > _pete > 97KLR650 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 07:52:11 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Tire Wear mcpete@juno.com wrote: > > What kind of milage are y'all getting out of Avon Gripsters? Trying to > figure out if I have enough left in the rear tire to go on a 6k trip. AFAIR, I got around 22,000km (13750 mi) out of my rear Gripster. This was a mix of touring, scratching and town dribbling. As the tyre shop told me, if you was them to last, you have to pump them up. I used about 33-34psi on tour, 30-32psi around town, 28-30psi for scratching. Mister_T - -- \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\ | RC17 KLR600 Roces BCN FreeBSD 2.2.5-R NT4W (ugh) | | tedp[at]replicant[dot]apana[dot]org[dot]au | \|_________________________________________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 18:05:36 -0400 From: "J. Taylor" Subject: [Fwd: Re: (klr650) Whistling KLR] Message-ID: <354A43F1.5B9D@mediaone.net> Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 17:51:45 -0400 From: "J. Taylor" Reply-To: klr650@mediaone.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert frey Subject: Re: (klr650) Whistling KLR References: <005001bd751c$82785460$f6f2ffd0@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert, I got a whistler too. '96 w/ 13,000 on the clock-been whistlin' since about 4,000 after I rode it thru DEEP water-never stopped runnin but somehow got just enuf H20 to 'pop' a baffle and viola-she whistles. I am still running my stock whistling exhaust with no problems. Did have a shop tell me rather authoritatively my head was warped and leaking air-they blushed when I told them the real culprit and cancelled the work order for a valve adj. If they were so sure so fast, I was even surer they didn't need to touch my bike.(They later asked how did I like riding one of the only street legal 2 stroke dirtbikes in the world-this from a Kawasaki dealer.) Anyway, if your chuffa-whistle is anything like mine, its probably (?) loose exhaust baffle unless someone has more convinving evidence. Call me and I'll gladly put her on the phone to chuffa-whistle for you (for comparison purposes only-anything else and my bike requires credit card verification first.) Hope this helps. Jake Taylor Robert frey wrote: > > My son's got a '93 KLR650 and it whistles! Mostly at idle and just off idle, > disappears with more open throttle. We already blew out the spark arrestor > and can't figure out where there might be some blockage and how to get to > it. It doesn't hurt the machines performance. Anybody else got a whistler? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 17:25:56 -0500 From: Robert Carreras Subject: (klr650) NKLR-PICS: Ranger Alysha Hey Fred you lucky (get to ride the white rim anytime) stiff, If you wheelie Musselman Arch with Peggy on the back you'd best get me a picture to prove it! HA! As for Ranger Alysha, please do say HOWDY and (for Kathleen), please ask if she has a BIG BROTHER as Kathleen will be joining us next year! (Right Kathleen? Imagine, a big brother and so many cute riders...now if that ain't incentive?) Fred: PS- I want a report of your ride tomorrow BoB (Who hopes you get rained on cause I'm jealous) Fred Hink wrote: > > BoB, > > I am doing the White Rim in the morning so I will put in a good word to > Alysha for you. Peggy is going to be the co-pilot and I am taking two > Canadians and a couple of other friends that haven't been on "the" ride > before. Wonder if Peggy will let me wheelie Musselman with her on the back > of the 650? Thanks for the pix! Fred > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Carreras > To: klr650@lists.xmission.com > Date: Thursday, April 30, 1998 6:31 PM > Subject: (klr650) Pics: Ranger Alysha > > >Alex, You're only the 6th person to ask about Ranger Alysha. > >No more pics. She spends her days on the White Rim Trail...working. > >Gives more incentive to get to Moab and ride the White Rim eh? > > > >BoB > > > > > >Alex Jomarron wrote: > >> > >> Bob, > >> Thanks for sharing the great pics! > >> Anymore of Ranger Alysha???? ;-) > >> > >> Alex Jomarron > >> Oak Park, IL > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 17:07:00 -0500 From: Chuck McCullough Subject: Re: (klr650) List notes.. Cameron Cole wrote: > I do have one small request. Could we somehow get a standard on the To: > address. Most lists are "Multiple recipients of list [List Name]" or > "klr650@lists.xmission.com". These lists are easy to filter into other > mail folders outside my main list. Currently, I have 14 filters just > for the KLR list. > > Just a thought, C. Cameron, Netscape Communicator allows me to filter based on the "To or CC" headings. Since evreything on the list is sent to klr, I filter using klr650 as the cue. Will that work for you? Chuck McCullough Nothern Wisconsin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 18:12:34 -0400 From: "J. Taylor" Subject: Re: (klr650) Moose skidplate... James: I tried to order a Moose skidplate thru M.A.W. approx 2 mos ago and they said "backorder for 6+ weeks" with no explanation. I still get calls and snailmail from them confirming backorder on an order I cancelled 3-5 days after placing it. Bought Gino's used White Bros skiddie and have been very happy with it-you know we have TONS of rocks here in coastal Florida, yeah, with beachsand. Jake Taylor '96 KLR 6five0. James Dukes wrote: > > I have had a moose skidplate on order from my local dealer since January, > and it is still backordered. As I recall there is somebody else on this > list who has one backordered through Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse. > Could that somebody let me know if that is still true? > > I'm just wondering if there is a backorder problem with just our local > distributer ( I'm assuming Parts Unlimited) or if all distribution > channels are affected and I just have to hang in there and wait. > > -Jim > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Jim Dukes (503)613-5019 jdukes@ichips.intel.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 17:43:41 -0600 From: Kurt Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) List notes.. Chuck thanks for the update. Cameron, I think we have two choices: we can either have reply default to the whole list in which case you have to cut and paste to send to only the sender. Or, we can leave it the way it is in which case everybody has to make it work as best they can. If people would like to keep the list traffic separate from other email and can't filter you can get a free pop3 email service at softhome.net. For those who might not know the difference, a pop3 account allows you to use Netscape or Internet explorer, or eudora to access your account. With Juno, rocketmail et. al. you have to log-on to their site with your browser and then check your mail while trying to ignore the advertisements. With softhome you have none of that. So, you can set up a specific email address and then establish a new user profile in Netscape or Eudora or, if you have Eudora lite set up a whole nother version in a fresh directory with a unique icon. This is essentially what I do. I have 3 e-mail accounts that I work with and keep the traffic distinct on each one. Hope this helps. If anyone has more ideas let me know. Kurt At 05:07 PM 5/1/1998 -0500, you wrote: > > >Cameron Cole wrote: > >> I do have one small request. Could we somehow get a standard on the To: >> address. Most lists are "Multiple recipients of list [List Name]" or >> "klr650@lists.xmission.com". These lists are easy to filter into other >> mail folders outside my main list. Currently, I have 14 filters just >> for the KLR list. >> >> Just a thought, C. > >Cameron, > >Netscape Communicator allows me to filter based on the "To or CC" headings. >Since evreything on the list is sent to klr, I filter using klr650 as the >cue. Will that work for you? > >Chuck McCullough >Nothern Wisconsin > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 17:45:42 -0600 From: Kurt Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Moose skidplate... I don't know what happened to the Moose skid plate availability but I do know that Tom V and others have purchased the White Bros and like it. I was told that the White Bros. now has a hole in the bottom for getting at the drain plug. If this is true you might want to check that you are getting the latest and greatest... At 06:12 PM 5/1/1998 -0400, J. Taylor wrote: >James: > >I tried to order a Moose skidplate thru M.A.W. approx 2 mos ago and they >said "backorder for 6+ weeks" with no explanation. I still get calls and >snailmail from them confirming backorder on an order I cancelled 3-5 >days after placing it. Bought Gino's used White Bros skiddie and have >been very happy with it-you know we have TONS of rocks here in coastal >Florida, yeah, with beachsand. > >Jake Taylor >'96 KLR 6five0. >James Dukes wrote: >> >> I have had a moose skidplate on order from my local dealer since January, >> and it is still backordered. As I recall there is somebody else on this >> list who has one backordered through Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse. >> Could that somebody let me know if that is still true? >> >> I'm just wondering if there is a backorder problem with just our local >> distributer ( I'm assuming Parts Unlimited) or if all distribution >> channels are affected and I just have to hang in there and wait. >> >> -Jim >> >> -- >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Jim Dukes (503)613-5019 jdukes@ichips.intel.com >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 10:44:33 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Riding Australia! Those of you deadset on bringing a bike into Oz to use on holiday should check out: http://www.dot.gov.au/programs/fors/impbroch.htm and look at the little section on "Overseas Visitors to Australia". Mister_T - -- \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\ | RC17 KLR600 Roces BCN FreeBSD 2.2.5-R NT4W (ugh) | | tedp[at]replicant[dot]apana[dot]org[dot]au | \|_________________________________________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 21:07:31 -0400 From: "Rick Clarke" Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR600 Q's > 10.3 Volts..........dead cell syndrome ??? > > Fully charged 2.2 X 6 = 13.2 Volts (approx) A fully charged lead acid battery will be 12.6V. The GRT batteries will be a little higher. Let the battery sit for a while after running the bike to let the surface charge dissipate before taking a reading. - -Rick R.P.Clarke (rpclarke@mindspring.com) "What traffic?" RTP, NC, USA DoD#5811 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 18:48:07 -0700 From: "Robert Morgan" Subject: Re: (klr650) Looking to buy. Ron You are lucky your wife rides with you, and luckier still she wants a bike. Mine won't even sit on my klr in the driveway! She wont go near it! Its not like I'm too gonzo I don't think. I haven't crashed any cars or planes, Ive never hit dock with the sailboat, but she just wont trust me on the bike. Period! I can almost start to understand this till we go by the motorcyle store for parts or something and she sees a full dress, antennae laden, Goldwing and says " I might be able to ride on one of these." Whats up with that? Morgan [riding solo] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 21:37:31 -0500 From: Chadd Thompson Subject: (klr650) Off To Germany. Just to let you know in case anyone tries to mail me I will be off the list until 5-10. I have to Germany for work all next week. Anyway see ya all later. Thanks Chadd Thompson chadd@accessus.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 20:49:28 -0600 From: rssm@voicenet.com Subject: (klr650) klr650 saddle bags from Kawasaki Just bought a new 98 klr650 and planning a trip to West Virginia in two weeks. I ordered the new saddle bags and trunk bag from Kawasaki designed for the klr. My dealer tells me they don't know when they will ship. Could be two weeks to 2 months. Any one know where I can get these. And has anyone tried them? Opinions? Rick Bridgman Elizabethtown, PA (Near Harrisburg) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 22:50:24 -0400 (EDT) From: lycurgus@lycosmail.com Subject: (klr650) Crash update Gino, I was shocked to read about your crash, but I'm glad you're okay. Not many of us have gone down that seriously [I certainly haven't] and I know everyone on the list is grateful for your description of not only how it happened, but for your comments about protective gear and why it is necessary. A couple of minutes after I read about your accident, I looked out my window and saw a guy ride by in shorts, tee-shirt and sandals. There was a small child riding on his tank. Scary stuff! good luck with your recovery, Tom Clay Winnipeg MB - ----------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email at http://email.lycos.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 01:41:34 -0400 From: "Robert frey" Subject: (klr650) Re: Florida dual sporting - -----Original Message----- From: Robert frey To: tuckers@supernet.net Date: Saturday, May 02, 1998 1:10 AM Subject: Re: Florida's ONLY Dual-Sport Club... >JXX >The Withlacoochee State Forest is North of tampa about an hour. I live in >New Port Richey, We usually ride a 55,000 acre tract that borders the Green >Swamp. Other members ride the Appalachicola, Osceola, Ocala NFs and there >are a few Wildlife mgmt areas open to us. I take it JXX is for jacksonville, >if so we have members and they ride just north in nassau! As for my bike it >is SIMPLY AWESOME! Sucks on the road but a true off-roader with lights! >Stock it was white with purple graphics, changed it to White with the KTM >butterscotch orange and purple also with the Off-Road 620 graphics. It looks >sharp. Can't put any pictures on, I'm still trying to figure this computer >out! Went to the Swamp Fox in South Carolina , The Alligator DS at Daytona, >and will be at the Chatahoochee in Suches GA June 13/14. Ya'll gotta come to >our DSR August 2 in Brooksville. E-mail your mailing address and I can >forward a flyer when they come out of the printers. P.S. We pulled a 95 KLR >out of the mud with a XT350 lasr year! >-----Original Message----- >From: tuckers >To: Robert frey >Date: Friday, May 01, 1998 9:24 PM >Subject: Re: Florida's ONLY Dual-Sport Club... > > >>Robert frey wrote: >>> >>> Hey james, found you at the KLR site! We are the Withlacoochee Dual-Sport >>> Riders Club! Florida's ONLY dual-sport club! Membership is only $10 a >year. >>> We have members from Pensicola to Miami, Jacksnville to Ft Meyers and all >>> points in between. Our annual Devil's creek Dual Sport Ride is coming up >>> August 2. As for me, I'm Robert, the Prez of the club and ride a 96 KTM >>> 620RXC. See ya in the woods... >>> e-mail rlfrey@gte.net >>Hey Frey, >> Where the hell is Withlacooche?I'm interested.I need more info.Have >>any images of your bike?It sounds awesome.Please send more info as I am >>interested in regional rides.Rep lies to JXX. >> Thanx, >> JXX > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 06:00:14 -0400 From: temsley@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Sprockets...and Arrowhead... could someone explain the odd-even tooth sprocket situation? Thanx Todd A11 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 06:10:46 -0400 From: temsley@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: (klr650) Whistling KLR] The whistle is most certainly something with the huge bulb of metal kawasaki is calling a tailpipe. My COBRA only grunts when it works, whistling is for relaxing! Todd My dog doesn't talk to my exhaust anymore. A11 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 May 98 07:49:08 PDT From: "Todd J. Kuss" Subject: (klr650) cleaview windshield A day or two ago, someone was listing various equipment with their comments on how it performed at the Moab rally, the question I have was regarding the clearview windshield, (something like plus 11 inches or more?) Anyway, it was described as though it shaked a little. I ride thrity miles to work, much of it 70mph+ on the freeway, and the stock windshield is all I have. I am interested in whether or not the clearview helped substantially on the highway, and what height would be the best. Was the clearview too high?? if there is a "best of both worlds" height, how high is it, and are customized heights available. I am convinced that the stock windshield is far better than nothing, I am interested in better wind protection , but I wouldn't want to mount something that doesn't work off road. can someone comment? Really enjoy the discussion guys (and gals), Todd J. Kuss kusst@state.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 11:33:05 EDT From: TRA1115 Subject: (klr650) synthetic oil Just changed to Mobil 1 synthetic oil........What a difference in shifting!.........Has anybody used synthetic for extended periods?.......How does it hold up?......What are the oil change parameters.......Todd 94 Klr ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 09:52:52 -0600 From: Kurt Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) cleaview windshield Todd, I have the Clearview 7" with Stealth edging, Bill Haycock runs a 4" Clearview. I have no problems with my shield, it helps a ton, the wind is now at the top of my helmet. The flex I am talking about is the whole combination of the fairing and shield. It flexes at idle and with a hard bump, but if I was a better rider I wouldn't notice because my eyes would be on where I am going instead of the big sand wash below me...Ask for Craig at Clearview. BTW Roy Cope runs a trimmed Rifle and is on the list... Kurt At 07:49 AM 5/2/1998 PDT, Todd J. Kuss wrote: >A day or two ago, someone was listing various equipment with their comments >on how it performed at the Moab rally, the question I have was regarding >the clearview windshield, (something like plus 11 inches or more?) >Anyway, it was described as though it shaked a little. I ride thrity >miles to work, much of it 70mph+ on the freeway, and the stock >windshield is all I have. I am interested in whether or not the clearview >helped substantially on the highway, and what height would be the best. >Was the clearview too high?? if there is a "best of both worlds" height, >how high is it, and are customized heights available. I am convinced >that the stock windshield is far better than nothing, I am interested in >better wind protection , but I wouldn't want to mount something that >doesn't work off road. >can someone comment? > >Really enjoy the discussion guys (and gals), > >Todd J. Kuss >kusst@state.net > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 12:17:22 -0400 From: "Michael Magnatta" Subject: (klr650) IMS Footpegs I recently ordered IMS Footpegs from Fred. Nice pegs, the right one needed some minor filing to sit level, though. It took me a few miles of shifting/breaking to get used to 'em, but after that, they really outshined the original rubber ones. Highly recommend 'em. Mike Magnatta ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 11:22:18 -0600 From: "Debbie Sammons" Subject: (klr650) Headphones I just bought a little radio to use while riding on my KLR. Does anyone know if some company make a very compact or velcro headphone that con be put into a Bieffe 3-Sport Helmet. I can use the regular headphones but they are a bit tight and are a bitch to get on and off. Thanks Josh ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 13:34:30 -0400 From: Peter Dahlheimer Subject: (klr650) NEP lock Boynton or Bust '98... hi. i put the nep (cc3) throttle lock on and it looks like it'll work except that the rubber flange thingy on the grip rubs so flush against the lock assembly that it acts like a throttle lock itself. so what do i do, move the grip itself out a bit? also, i see on Tom's KLR home page that he installed a bolt-on-the-handlebars windshield without removing the stock mini-fairing or windscreen. is that the rule or the exception? i mean, should i expect to remove the mini-fairing or leave it? i realize there might not be enough people who have done this mod, but what the hell... half-kidding, but another tip for people installing seat kits: make sure yer stapler will go through the tough plastic seat pan before you remove the stock seat cover/foam or you, like me right now, will be without a functional seat for a little bit... for me, this is extremely disconcerting 8^) _pete 97KLR650 ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V1 #67 ***************************