From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: RE: (kw) Kraftwerk concert in Hannover Date: 01 Jun 1999 8:55:19 +0100 Klaus Zaepke wrote: "Kraftwerk will also perform live at the EXPO Arena, Hannover, on June 9th, 2000=2E" =20= Hmmmm=2E=2E=2E Thats about half a year after the release of the new album=2E=2E=2E # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists=2Exmission=2Ecom=2E # To post, email kraftwerk@lists=2Exmission=2Ecom; replies go to original sender=2E # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web=2Ebham=2Eac=2Euk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FA= Q/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Salzburger Nachrichten on Kraftwerk Date: 01 Jun 1999 09:53:09 +0200 (DFT) There's a brief Kraftwerk article in today's edition of the Salzburger Nachrichten. No new facts compared to what was posted here yesterday, though: http://www.salzburg.com/sn/99/06/01/kultur-5951.html Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) More about Kraftwerk's EXPO Jingle Date: 01 Jun 1999 10:05:32 +0200 (DFT) The premiere of Kraftwerk's EXPO jingle yesterday in Hannover was received with "amazement (or shiver)", according to yesterdays Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung. It seems that the tune basically consists of a vocoderized voice that speaks "EXPO 2000" in six different languages. According to todays Hamburger Abendblatt, the jingle will get its first airing on the radio / TV today. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Fw: (kw) Spamphobics Date: 31 May 1999 15:28:40 -0400 >Agoraphobics, homophobics, recordaphobics, africanBambaataaaaaphobics, >Elvisphobics, Startrekphobics, Teletubbiesphobics, what more we are? I HOPE we're not Kraftwerkaphobics... Huggy Bear # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Fw: (kw) Kraftwerk concert in Hannover Date: 01 Jun 1999 08:21:05 -0400 >Kraftwerk will also perform live at the EXPO Arena, Hannover, on June >9th, 2000. Touring for the upcoming album, no doubt... Huggy Bear np: Da Yoopers - Rusty Chevrolet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Mills Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk night on BBC2 Date: 01 Jun 1999 14:19:22 +0100 Just read in next weeks Radio Times that BBC2 is devoting an evening to Kraftwerk - a documentary, a compilation of all their videos and Tomorrow's World appearances, the Tribal Gathering concert and a feature "on their new album" and oh! shit! - sorry folks this was all in a dream I had last night. Keep on dreaming (of Kraftwerkactivity) Paul Mills paulm@intercell.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Spamphobics Date: 01 Jun 1999 09:24:12 EDT In a message dated 28/05/99 22:50:57 GMT Daylight Time, intenge@lagosnet.com.br writes: << Agoraphobics, homophobics, recordaphobics, africanBambaataaaaaphobics, Elvisphobics, Startrekphobics, Teletubbiesphobics, what more we are? >> we are the robots. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: (kw) Re: I have the power of the Kraft... Date: 01 Jun 1999 09:28:21 EDT In a message dated 31/05/99 09:23:26 GMT Daylight Time, gb_not_eu@hotmail.co= m=20 writes: << The Kraft? Surely the Kraft would've supported M=FCnchen? Or were they using it to help poor old Fortuna D=FCsseldorf (but alas, relegated from 2. Bundesliga)... >> well, in Brussels 81 they incorporated both Manchester and M=FCnchen into th= eir=20 rendition of Autobahn, as far as I know. So I suppose we might consider the= m=20 neutral. Perhaps someone could ask Florian at the HfG Karlsruhe ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk composes EXPO melody Date: 01 Jun 1999 09:30:55 EDT In a message dated 31/05/99 19:03:43 GMT Daylight Time, fh5y013@public.uni-hamburg.de writes: << The piece features an electronic voice that speaks "Expo 2000" in various languages. >> this should have been translated as "an electronically distorted voice". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Schade, Sven" Subject: RE: (kw) More about Kraftwerk's EXPO Jingle Date: 01 Jun 1999 15:22:43 +0200 Hallo, Anyone out there who has this Jingle ????? As MP 3 ????? Svens # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Die Blöde Buhle" Subject: (kw) my guestbook Date: 01 Jun 1999 08:51:08 GMT If Ralf H=FCtter didn't sign my guestbook, then will people stop mucking about and put proper names in there? Fuck man... Mattwerk www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palace/8922 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: thomas m weibrecht Subject: Re: (kw) More about Kraftwerk's EXPO Jingle Date: 01 Jun 1999 15:03:26 -0400 On Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:05:32 +0200 (DFT) Klaus Zaepke writes: > > >The premiere of Kraftwerk's EXPO jingle yesterday in Hannover was >received with "amazement (or shiver)", according to yesterdays >Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung. It seems that the tune basically >consists >of a vocoderized voice that speaks "EXPO 2000" in six different >languages. > >According to todays Hamburger Abendblatt, the jingle will get its >first >airing on the radio / TV today. > so there u have it, the new album... tom w np: reich remixed ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peeters Ivo" Subject: (kw) Off topic: Add N To (X) Date: 01 Jun 1999 21:38:15 +0200 Dear KW-ers, I recently saw Add N To (X) live. They seem to be highly influenced by KW and are the best thing I have heard in recent times. I intend to buy everything which has been released by them and therefore I have a few discographical questions. I hope some people can help since I can imagine that on the list there will also be some Add N To (X) fans. Add N To (X) has released two 12": The black regent/Murmer one and King wasp/Hit me. According the tracklisting these four songs are all featured on the CD On the wires of our nerves. Does anybody know whether these are the same versions? They have also released 'Little black rocks in the sun'. This seem to exist on CD and on 10". The 10" however contains 3 tracks more (Voices 1,2,3). Are these tracks interesting enough to buy the 10" version since this is far more expensive than the CD? Thanks, Ivo Peeters # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re: (kw) More about Kraftwerk's EXPO Jingle Date: 02 Jun 1999 05:42:39 +0200 >, the jingle will get its first >airing on the radio / TV today. > "In God We Trust, All Others We Monitor and Photograph..." ---josef _________________In _Vienna_We_Sit_In_The_LateNight_Cafe________________ ______________________Straight_ Connection__T.E.E.______________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: (kw) Trans Mission Date: 01 Jun 1999 22:17:48 -0600 (MDT) I was just about to order Basskraft and Trance Europe Express 2 from cdnow.com when I noticed this: Artist: Trans Mission Album: Trans Europe Express Track list: 1. Single Edit 2. Extended Version 3. Europe Remix 4. Express Edit New 5. Electro Static Mix 6. Original Version Does anyone know if this is a bootleg, a set of covers, or what? /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * The remarkable thing about the human mind is its range of limitations. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk night on BBC2 Date: 02 Jun 1999 02:49:37 -0700 Paul Mills paulm@intercell.co.uk wrote: > >Just read in next weeks Radio Times that BBC2 is devoting an evening to >Kraftwerk - a documentary, a compilation of all their videos and Tomorrow's >World appearances, the Tribal Gathering concert and a feature "on their new >album". i am planning to stay up for the entire 168 hours of MTV's Kraftwerk-a-thon next week, and tape the whole thing. would you be interested in it for trade, for a copy of the BBC programme? lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: RE: (kw) Trans Mission Date: 02 Jun 1999 10:05:20 -0600 (MDT) On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, PITT, Mike wrote: > >Artist: Trans Mission > >Album: Trans Europe Express > >Does anyone know if this is a bootleg, a set of covers, or what? > > It is a cover although Kraftwerk are not credited on the cd inlay. > And I will host a track on my site in 2 weeks time. Cool. Thanks for the info, Mike. I'll wait to hear the track before I place my order. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * The remarkable thing about the human mind is its range of limitations. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Colatina Radio Som Ltda <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) VIDEOS for TRADE Date: 02 Jun 1999 15:38:19 -0300 Hi, werkers. I have Videos (Kraftwerk`s bootlegs) for trade. The concerts was recorded during the MIX TOUR (91/92) in Italy, England, Belgique .Different places, but, the same tracks (Numbers, CW, Tour de France, Autobahn and others) I accept swap by CDs (Autobahn, TEE, Radio-activity, Electric cafe...) (One video X one CD). If interested, please, write me privately. Thanks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: drew dibble Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk night on BBC2 Date: 02 Jun 1999 21:18:47 -0500 (EST) | i am planning to stay up for the entire 168 hours of MTV's Kraftwerk-a-thon | next week, and tape the whole thing. would you be interested in it for | trade, for a copy of the BBC programme? 168 hours of kraftwerk???? on MTV??? tell me more! -drew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Young Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk night on BBC2 Date: 02 Jun 1999 21:02:18 -0700 (PDT) > 168 hours of kraftwerk???? on MTV??? tell me more! > > -drew Oh dear. Sarcasm rears its obtuse head again to no avail. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk night on BBC2 Date: 03 Jun 1999 01:34:59 +0000 >> 168 hours of kraftwerk???? on MTV??? tell me more! >> >> -drew Jeff Young wrote: >Oh dear. Sarcasm rears its obtuse head again to no avail. thank you Jeff for clearing that one up for me. i thought i was going to be burned like a witch in Salem on a Sunday for making such a statement, but apperantly the populace (with a few exceptions of course) is more gullible than has been perceived until now. maybe Euro-MTV, or VH1, but not the MTV. has any of you seen MTV in the last ... five years. with a commercial to video ratio of 5:1 respectively, (even if) 168 hours would only total some 20 to 30 hours of actual programming, there is very little official video material released by Kraftwerk to amount to any-a-thon at all. may be a breif story on "Where (the hell) are they now?". as for the rest of you, MTV will take you live on an exclusive tour of the group members homes and to top it off a Grand Tour of Kling Klang the studio. the -thon will be hosted by Robin Leach and Daisy Fuentes, with live reporting from location in Dusseldorf by Regis Philbin. Incidentally, I met with the three celebrities mentioned above at the Grand Opening of the new Casino Windsor, in Ontario Canada last year, and was sworn to secrecy regarding this monumental event. but i could not keep it to myself any longer. so stay tooned for more exclusive information. IMPORTANT! READ SLOWLY SEVERAL TIMES! if this totaly went over your head, i apologize. try reading the message again and pretend its a joke and not real. if you got it, i hope you enjoied the laugh. lenny g b.s. blow out the flashlight before it starts a forest fire. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk night on BBC2 Date: 03 Jun 1999 09:25:01 +0100 At 1:34 am +0000 3/6/99, 47 wrote: >i thought i was going to >be burned like a witch in Salem on a Sunday for making such a statement, >but apperantly the populace (with a few exceptions of course) is more >gullible than has been perceived until now. Who are you to say there is no MTV Kraftathon? Just because you haven't seen it and made the story up in the first place doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It was probably made as a touching tribute to their memory. I have a 3 second 9th-generation video clip of Kraftwerk playing 'Autobahn', which proves that they have made music videos blah blah froth etc. etc. >with a >commercial to video ratio of 5:1 respectively, (even if) 168 hours would >only total some 20 to 30 hours of actual programming, there is very little >official video material released by Kraftwerk to amount to any-a-thon at >all. may be a breif story on "Where (the hell) are they now?". Ralf Huetter - retired and moved to England. All correspondence to 'Dunbleepin', Electric Avenue, Lewes, East Sussex. Florian Schneider - professional gambler and international playboy, solves crimes in his spare time. Buddy Holly - died in plane crash. Glen Miller - missing, believed to be working with Elvis. >IMPORTANT! READ SLOWLY SEVERAL TIMES! > >if this totaly went over your head, i apologize. try reading the message >again and pretend its a joke and not real. Same here. Do not try to write to Ralf at the above address (he actually lives in Worthing). >b.s. blow out the flashlight before it starts a forest fire. No flames intended by me either! ;-) KB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 Date: 03 Jun 1999 12:38:52 +0100 Fond this on=20= http://www=2Etreuhanf=2Ede/angebot=2Ehtm when I was searching for kraftwerk and Expo 2000: =2E=2E=2ETreuHanf Sachsen-Anhalt wird das Projekt auf dem=20= Gel=E4nde des VEAG- Braunkohle-Kraftwerks Zschornewitz=20= realisieren=2E Das Kraftwerk ist seit 1992 stillgelegt und heute=20= nicht nur ein attraktives Museum zur Geschichte=20= der Gro=DFkraftwerke sondern auch ein g=FCnstiger=20= Gewerbestandort in unmittelbarer N=E4he zum Expo 2000-Projekt=20= Ferropolis (Darstellung der Gro=DFtechnik des =20= Braunkohletagebaues auf einer Insel in einem gefluteten=20= Tagebau) und mitten im=2E=2E=2E "Braunkohle-Kraftwerk?" - is this the group who made the jingle? "Das Kraftwerk ist seit 1992 stillgelegt" - Kraftwerk hasn't been used since=20= 1992? "ein attraktives Museum zur Geschichte der Gro=DFkraftwerke" Hmmmm=2E=2E=2E/Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Promo 12" Date: 03 Jun 1999 15:13:49 +0200 I've got two spare copies of two 12" of the EMI's promobox set of four 12" singles issued to coincide with Tribal Gathering, limited editon to 500 copies. The details are as follows: "Trans Europe Express" / "Numbers" Klang DJ 101 33rpm KlingKlang Musik / EMI Music Publishing 1981 KlingKlang Produkt For promo use only Made in the UK 1997 EMI and "Numbers" / "Numbers" Klang DJ 102 33rpm KlingKlang Musik / EMI Music Publishing 1977 KlingKlang Produkt For promo use only Made in the UK 1997 EMI. I require in Kraftwerk and Elektric Music records in any format, bootlegs video-tapes, cuttings, posters, memorabilia, photos, publicity, press articles, etc. Please send me your trading list and let me know what is of interest. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Johnson Subject: (kw) KW Make the EW Greatest Moments in Rock Date: 03 Jun 1999 08:39:27 -0700 The (U.S.) Entertainment Weekly for May 28, 1999 (#487), is a "Special Collector's Issue" of "The Fab 400-Second of Four Issues Celebrating Pop Culture" called "The 100 Greatest Moments in Rock". Inside, the writing staff picked 100 moments; sometimes albums, sometimes concerts, sometimes TV appearances, that weighed heaviest on U.S. Rock Music. Our heroes make Rank #86! Amazed? Right there on Page 73, next to "Bruce Springsteen Makes the Cover of Time and Newsweek (#23)", and "Taper's Choice for Best Grateful Dead Gig (#78)", under closeup pictures of the robot faces of Wolfgang, Karl, Florian, and Ralf, is the following... "March 15, 1975 - "Autobahn" Enters The U.S. Charts It came from Germany, but when heard stateside alongside hit singles by Elton John and Olivia Newton-John, Kraftwerk's "Autobahn" seemed to emanate from another galaxy. Recorded entirely with synthesizers, the quartet's ode to the European superhighway had an addictive, otherworldly blankness. Although it peaked at No. 25, "Autobahn" was electronica's first excursion into the meanstream, and Kraftwerk would inspire future knob twiddlers from Afrika Bambaataa to the Chemical Brothers. "Kraftwerk was the first German band I accepted as a guideline," says guitarist Richard Kruspe of electro-metallists Rammstein. "They were leaders." Rand 86" Hey guys, it's better than nothing. Mike Oldfields "Tubular Bells" (which it could be argued brought the whole "new age" music movement into the mainstream) isn't even mentioned. FYI, the TOP 10. 1. Beatles on the Ed Sullivan Show 2. Chuck Berry "Maybelline" 3. Elvis Presley's Sun sessions 4. Dylan goes electric at the Newport Folk Festival 5. Michael Jackson does "Billie Jean" (and the moonwalk) on Motown 25 6. Kool Herc "invents" hip-hop (by using two copies of a record to extend the breaks) 7. Berry Gordy founds Motown 8. Nirvana's "Teen Spirit" airs on MTV 9. Woodstock 10. James Brown "Live at the Apollo" -Keith Johnson kj@gmnameplate.com P.S. Personal to Larry LaCost Jr. - Are you still out there? If so, please contact me privately. I sent my part of our trade, but my message to you bounced. -KJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Schade, Sven" Subject: RE: (kw) Expo 2000 Date: 03 Jun 1999 15:53:37 +0200 > "Braunkohle-Kraftwerk?" - is this the group who made the jingle? This means a powerplant !!!!! Kraftwerk is the german word for Powerplant! > "Das Kraftwerk ist seit 1992 stillgelegt" - Kraftwerk hasn't=20 > been used since 1992? > "ein attraktives Museum zur Geschichte der Gro=DFkraftwerke" >=20 > Hmmmm.../Johan This text is for a project shown at the Expo 2000. Nothing to do with the Group KRAFTWERK. Svens # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Juno Jackson Subject: (kw) Official Mix Video and Kraftwerk on MTV (we fucking wish) Date: 03 Jun 1999 12:41:40 PDT Hi everyone ! I came across a video for "The Mix" in PAL format at imvs.com . I was wondering when this was released and what videos are on this. Also, I remember that Lenny G mentioned something about a fake Kraftwerk marathon on MTV UK ? I have been thinking for a long time that MTV US should have one. I wanted to know if anyone was interested in participating in a mass e-mailing to them. I'm just pretty damn angry that MTV devotes all of its time to having the same old cowntdowns and a special on rap music every fucking week rather than giving half a shit about KW. The AMP show is not enough !!!! NOISEWERKER _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) Expo 2000 Date: 03 Jun 1999 21:47:56 +0200 I'm very sure Johan knows the meaning of the German word Kraftwerk. We should perhaps start inserting tags into the documents, like Kraftwerk hasn't been used since 1992? /Joakim -----Original Message----- > "Braunkohle-Kraftwerk?" - is this the group who made the jingle? This means a powerplant !!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Juno Jackson Subject: (kw) A Chat That I Had With Some Reps Date: 03 Jun 1999 13:12:22 PDT Hey robots ! I made some phone calls recently to Capitol and Elektra US, and I asked them some questions regarding KW. I asked a rep at Capitol if there would be anymore KW reissues anytime soon; particularly mentioning the first three albums and a US version of Autobahn. He said that there isn't anything else besides the recent CD reissues of Radioactivity, T.E.E., and Man Machine that was made part of the Price Busters series. No more vinyl or cassettes either. As for the first three albums, he obviously said that they don't have any rights to these. Apparently, Capitol can't reissue Autobahn either. I mentioned that this would be a good thing since the import is so expensive; he said that despite the fact the EMI holds the license for the rest of the world, Capitol/EMI US doesn't have the rights to it and said that it's a different ballgame over here regarding Autobahn's copyrights. He said that the last time he checked, Polygram owned the rights to Autobahn for the US. This doesn't make too much sense to me because the group ended its relationship with Vertigo a long time ago and Vertigo no longer has a US office anymore. That would be the only relationship with Polygram that I could think of. I asked him if EMI Electrola had a web site; he said he wasn't sure, but he gave me their number in Germany along with EMI Publishing. I don't have them right next to me; I will post them as soon as I find them; if you can't wait 'til then, call Capitol yourself (pretend that you are some kind of important figure). As for the publicity department at Elektra, they really didn't seem to know jack shit (or at least the individual whom I spoke with didn't). I asked if they were still representing them in the US, and she said that she believed so. I also asked if there was any new LP or tour in the works, and she said that if there was, I should have known about it by now. Whatever. Try having some fun calling some of your favorite groups' record companies. You'd be suprised at some of the answers that you get. NOISEWERKER _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jon Alsbury" Subject: (kw) innnkoorrreckt Date: 03 Jun 1999 21:45:52 +0100 From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com > > In a message dated 31/05/99 19:03:43 GMT Daylight Time, > fh5y013@public.uni-hamburg.de writes: > > << The piece features an electronic voice that speaks "Expo > 2000" in various languages. >> > > this should have been translated as "an electronically distorted voice". you dare to korrect Klaus? you will be punished! :-) "Due to the conflict in Kosovo, we will not be showing the movie Wag the Dog. Instead, we will show Mortal Kombat: Annihilation." SKY Movies, May '99 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jon Alsbury" Subject: (kw) iiinnnkooooreckt Date: 03 Jun 1999 21:46:48 +0100 From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com > > In a message dated 31/05/99 19:03:43 GMT Daylight Time, > fh5y013@public.uni-hamburg.de writes: > > << The piece features an electronic voice that speaks "Expo > 2000" in various languages. >> > > this should have been translated as "an electronically distorted voice". you dare to korrect Klaus? you will be punished! :-) "Due to the conflict in Kosovo, we will not be showing the movie Wag the Dog. Instead, we will show Mortal Kombat: Annihilation." SKY Movies, May '99 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Priscila Morsoletto" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk in MTV Brazil Date: 03 Jun 1999 18:48:06 -0300 Greetings all, Well, in AMP yesterday was broadcasted Pocket Calculator. If anybody want to see/record/what ever it, AMP's replay is this Sunday (06/06) 12PM (local time, GMT -03:00). It's quite hard to see, MTV broadcast Kraftwerk videos! =( Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Next Schneider lectures in Karlsruhe Date: 04 Jun 1999 00:05:15 +0000 I was told that Florian Schneider's next lectures at the HfG in Karlsruhe are announced as following: > Staatliche Hochschule fuer Gestaltung Karlsruhe > Objekt und Klang > Albus/Schneider > HFG I: Raum Schneider > Naechstes Treffen: Montag 31. 5. 99 > 17 Uhr > 14 taegig Translation: Staatliche Hochschule fuer Gestaltung Karlsruhe Object and Sound Albus/Schneider HfG I: Room Schneider Next meeting: Monday, 31.05.1999 5:00 p. m. Fortnightly. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Next Schneider lectures in Karlsruhe Date: 04 Jun 1999 00:05:15 +0000 I was told that Florian Schneider's next lectures at the HfG in Karlsruhe are announced as following: > Staatliche Hochschule fuer Gestaltung Karlsruhe > Objekt und Klang > Albus/Schneider > HFG I: Raum Schneider > Naechstes Treffen: Montag 31. 5. 99 > 17 Uhr > 14 taegig Translation: Staatliche Hochschule fuer Gestaltung Karlsruhe Object and Sound Albus/Schneider HfG I: Room Schneider Next meeting: Monday, 31.05.1999 5:00 p. m. Fortnightly. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom807@aol.com Subject: (kw) 1991 tour line-up Date: 03 Jun 1999 22:09:07 EDT What was the personnel of Kraftwerk on the 1991 tour? Ralf, Florian, ?, and ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Knight Subject: (kw) Help Me get this Right..... Date: 03 Jun 1999 21:43:55 -0400 I have Ra's & MP3's of the live concerts from ZKM & the 98 tour of the USA.... I noticed the "ZKM" new song was not played in the US tour.... Korrect ? The song "Tribal" is the same song that you can download the Movie from the Offical KW website? Korrect? the song after "Airwaves" on the the US tour is known as "Tango"? Korrect? Just trying to get it right.....also, I envy you people in Europe & Brazil.....MTV Sucks in the USA.......all this Crappy " Get a Real LIfe " & Choad Rules" is a real let down ...I hardly ever watch it..... When will VH 1 in the US ever do a "Behind the Muzik, Kraftwerk" Special ??? Probbably never !! Transmitting from Michigan ........................ Eric Knight AKA= ericknig@sprynet.com Kraftwerk...... A way of life ! Home page:http://home.sprynet.com/~ericknig/kraftwerk.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) Help Me get this Right..... Date: 04 Jun 1999 01:18:50 +0000 Eric Knight ericknig@sprynet.com wrote: >also, I envy you people in Europe & Brazil.....MTV Sucks in the >USA.......all this Crappy " Get a Real LIfe " & Choad Rules" is a real let >down ...I hardly ever watch it..... > > >When will VH 1 in the US ever do a "Behind the Muzik, Kraftwerk" Special ??? > >Probbably never !! > >Transmitting from Michigan ........................ i hear you Eric loud and clear! why i'm just south of you in ohio and empty-v is a pile of shit here too. i once thought that maybe i or anyone of us for that matter (maybe Klaus) could qualify to go on the mtv show phanatic and meet kraftwerk in person a do a five minute interview with them, but i quickly gave up hope when i heard that the band died in a plane crash. oh, and i've been to Europe (Russia, Austria, Italy) MTV is not better there, it's just not in English, and not about stupid americans. thank you, lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Roland Metzger Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Live again & Jingle news Date: 04 Jun 1999 11:35:44 +0200 Thanks Klaus for spotting the news regarding the EXPO 2000. Certainly this is the best piece of news coming to us for a long time. I'm certain to go to that concert. Haven't heard the jingle yet. The website www.expo2000.de doesn't have it yet. I was only able to find a german press release re the jingle and concert. But that site looks pretty professional, I guess it won't take long until they have the jingle there, hopefully. It looks like that pop concerts are held either at "Halle 11" or so or at the "Arena". The concert seems to be held in the "Arena". I was checking the site plan and they seem to have interactive walk-throughs of all the halls. But I was unable to find the concert hall "Arena"...anybody more successful than me? Sounds intriguing, doesn't it? Roland So who is first in hearing the jingle? Reports s'il vous plait! "Expo 2000, Ausstellung 2000, Exposition deux-mille, Exposition two-thousand, Expo Ich-ni-san-chi (hehe) nonstop..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peder Livijn Subject: (kw) Expo2000-Jingle Date: 04 Jun 1999 04:10:19 PDT Hello I know that these qustions may be a bit premature, since noone heard the song yet, but i´ll have a go anyway; -Does anybody know which languages is in the song, i read somewhere that it was six different languages, and a good guess might be German, English, French, Japanese, Spanish and ? (Russian maybe, as in Numbers??). -Is it done with vocoderized human speech or computer-generated synthetic speech? Thanks in advance, Peder ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kingrollo@iname.com Subject: Re: (kw) Next Schneider lectures in Karlsruhe Date: 04 Jun 1999 12:48:47 +0100 Hmm... how long did that take you to translate? At 00:05 04/06/99 +0000, you wrote: > > >I was told that Florian Schneider's next lectures at the HfG in >Karlsruhe are announced as following: > >> Staatliche Hochschule fuer Gestaltung Karlsruhe >> Objekt und Klang >> Albus/Schneider >> HFG I: Raum Schneider >> Naechstes Treffen: Montag 31. 5. 99 >> 17 Uhr >> 14 taegig > >Translation: >Staatliche Hochschule fuer Gestaltung Karlsruhe >Object and Sound >Albus/Schneider >HfG I: Room Schneider >Next meeting: Monday, 31.05.1999 >5:00 p. m. >Fortnightly. > > Klaus Zaepke --rollo-- http://www.very.bored.org/ " The opponents may die, but nobody hurts the fool " -- from a sixteenth century text by an unknown author # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Raistrick Subject: (kw) gig. Date: 04 Jun 1999 14:43:39 +0100 anyone know when tickets are on sale? chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "d..." Subject: (kw) wanted:kraftwerk in detroit 1998 Date: 04 Jun 1999 11:54:30 -0500 hello, i am looking for a cd copy (or mp3 files) of the kraftwerk concert that took place in detroit in 1998. i was at the show and it was really wonderful!! i have lots to trade from KW and lots of other bands as well. regards, derek... peace, love and ambience. d... d@techno.ca www.clo.com/~orbital www.mp3.com/figital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: (kw) (no subject) Date: 04 Jun 1999 16:15:42 EDT From www.expo2000.de, in reference to "twipsy", the mascot for EXPO2000 : "The mascot is a new technological being, wild and unpredictable like an animal, it laughs and cries like a human, but is also precise and calculating like a machine. It thus embodies the key theme, "Humankind - Nature - Technology". Twipsy, the manmachine. It seems the concept is reaching some kind of general currency. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E5ns=20Sj=F6strand?= Subject: (kw) Music non stop jingle Date: 04 Jun 1999 23:11:34 +0200 Speaking about jingels, does anybody know where to find Kraftwerks jingle to the MTV-show "Music non stop"? Thanks, M=E5ns sj=F6strand # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dirk jan "müller" Subject: Re: (kw) Promo 12 Date: 05 Jun 1999 08:10:00 CEST Der Automat wrote: >I've got two spare copies of two 12" of the EMI's promobox set of four 1= 2" >singles issued to coincide with Tribal Gathering, limited editon to 500 I don=B4t think they are so limited. I obtained all 12" through German=20 distributors Groove Attack and Rumble Records (ask your dealer) with plai= n=20 black sleeves. And they have loads on stock... >copies. The details are as follows: >"Trans Europe Express" / "Numbers" Klang DJ 101 33rpm KlingKlang Musik /= =20 >EMI This one is in fact mis-labelled. It is not Numbers on B-Side. It is: A: TEE Instrumental B: TEE Full Version (Labelled as Numbers) Dirk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Priscila Morsoletto" Subject: (kw) Re: LOWEST LONG DISTANCE RATES IN U.S.A. Date: 05 Jun 1999 16:21:15 -0300 On 5 Jun 99 at 8:18, gotmail@flashmail.com wrote: ___________________________________________________________ > Lowest Long Distance Rates in the U.S.A. 4.9 to 6.9 Cents Per Minute. > Your Phone, Their phone, Payphone (calling cards).......... Hey all, I'm going bananas or it's a SPAM!?! Not even in this list we're save from this? Oh my, none place of web is safe! =P Cheers, Priscila/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ward" Subject: (kw) german kraftwerk Date: 05 Jun 1999 17:34:10 -0400 hi This may come across as a dumb question, but I am interested in getting the Kraftwerk CD's in their German versions, since I own the English already. However, I am not interested in paying 28+ dollars for them. I was wondering if anyone on the list knows where I can get these albums for less than that. Thanks, Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) german kraftwerk Date: 06 Jun 1999 01:04:26 +0000 ward wrote: > >hi > >This may come across as a dumb question, but I am interested in getting the >Kraftwerk CD's in their German versions, since I own the English already. >However, I am not interested in paying 28+ dollars for them. I was >wondering if anyone on the list knows where I can get these albums for less >than that. > >Thanks, > >Nate good question! i've been looking for the same for a long time. if some one has an answer please forward it to me as well. also, what other language versions are there (other than english and german)? Les Maniquinns - French Mini Calculateur - French Dentaku - Japanese Sex Object - Spanish please excuse my spelling, it might not be correct, but please do let me know which other language versions of which songs exist and in what format are they available. also i am not sure about the "Sex Object" being in spanish, can someone confirm, or correct me. thank you, lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) OT, expo 2000 poster Date: 06 Jun 1999 13:30:56 +0200 for completely different reasons I came to the expo 2000 site. there was a picture of what I suppose to be the poster for this event. I liked the design very much. my curiosity is: the moiree effect is given by the pixelization of the orange fuzz ir is it really that way? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) KW Make the EW Greatest Moments in Rock Date: 06 Jun 1999 13:28:28 +0200 >Hey guys, it's better than nothing. Mike Oldfields "Tubular Bells" (which >it could be argued brought the whole "new age" music movement into the >mainstream) isn't even mentioned. this is a shame because for what I know this is the record that pulled out the money to found Virgin record company. people should be educed on the dynamics of the markets they finance themselves. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeroen de Haan" Subject: Re: (kw) Music non stop jingle Date: 06 Jun 1999 12:47:56 +0200 > Speaking about jingels, does anybody know where to find Kraftwerks > jingle to the MTV-show "Music non stop"? Don't think it's an official KW-jingle, but merely a rip-off. -- LIFE ON EARTH: Nuclear weapons can wipe out life on Earth if used properly. Cats like houses better than people. Dolphins find people amusing, but they don't want to talk to them. Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: markus vidman Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Music Videos??? Date: 06 Jun 1999 06:04:04 PDT Where can i find Kraftwerk Videos???? -markus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Priscila Morsoletto" Subject: Re: (kw) german kraftwerk Date: 06 Jun 1999 10:37:05 -0300 On 6 Jun 99 at 1:04, 47 wrote: >good question! i've been looking for the same for a long time. if some >one has an answer please forward it to me as well. also, what other >language versions are there (other than english and german)? > >Les Maniquinns - French >Mini Calculateur - French >Dentaku - Japanese >Sex Object - Spanish Mini Calcolatore - Italian (only live version) I hear this one from their concert in Bologna 91 (Italy) and it's doesn't exist in studio version. I think they played it also in their concerts in Italy 81. By the way, I hear something about Showroom Dummies in Spanish. Anybody have any information about it? >please excuse my spelling, it might not be correct, but please do let me >know which other language versions of which songs exist and in what format >are they available. also i am not sure about the "Sex Object" being in >spanish, can someone confirm, or correct me. Sex Object exist in Spanish and it's very rare one. It's appear in a limited edition of Electric Cafe printed in Spain. But it appear in a bootleg disc. Just to remeber, this version I'm talking have full lyrics in Spanish. I've this song in MP3 format, yes it exist. Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: Re: (kw) german kraftwerk Date: 06 Jun 1999 09:59:08 >Mini Calculateur - French >Dentaku - Japanese >Sex Object - Spanish If it hasn't already been mentioned, the above three tracks were compiled amongst 10 other KW single edits and rarities on a bootleg CD from 1995 titled "Kraftwerk: Werke" (Westwood One-Rarities On Compact Disc Vol.55). Apart from that, "Les Mannequins" was also made available on the KW retrospective compilation CD titled "The Model", put out by Cleopatra Records back in 1992. nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "FXCordero" Subject: (kw) Les Mannequins Date: 06 Jun 1999 08:28:39 -0600 nebulous@erols.com writes: Apart from that, "Les Mannequins" was also made available on the KW retrospective compilation CD titled "The Model", put out by Cleopatra Records back in 1992. I'll add one more......."Les Mannequins" was also made available on Classic Capitol Dance Tracks "Trans-Europe Express" CD single put out by Capitol Records back in 1990. DJFRANKX http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/kw2000.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Off topic: Add N To (X) Date: 06 Jun 1999 19:23:29 +0200 >I recently saw Add N To (X) live. They seem to be highly influenced by KW maybe they have something to do with I Start Counting? (the group or the song, I don't remember). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) german kraftwerk Date: 06 Jun 1999 13:37:22 EDT I have all of the German Kraftwerk albums except for The Mix. If anybody is=20 interested, the songs with different German lyrics off of Trans Europa=20 Express, Die Mensch Maschine, and Computer Welt fit nicely onto a 90 minute=20 tape. In case you don't know, Radio-Aktivit=E4t is the same recording. If=20 anybody wants me to copy these songs onto cassette, email me privately. P.S. I also have Electric Cafe in German, if anyone cares. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peder Livijn Subject: Re: (kw) Off topic: Add N To (X) Date: 07 Jun 1999 00:14:25 PDT < >maybe they have something to do with I Start Counting?>> -No, Add N to (x), has nothing with I start counting to do, the group I start counting, on the other hand, is extremely influenced by KW, since they are now know as, the perhaps, here, not entirely unknown group; Komputer. Bye, bye, Peder np: Weltraumboogie - Cosmic Hoffman ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Large Subject: (kw) german stuff Date: 07 Jun 1999 01:01:54 PDT hey fellow werkians I'm living in germany at the moment, and I frequently stop by the local music store to check for 'new' kraftwerk stuff. I would be happy to buy and mail any german kraftwerk stuff if anyone wants it :) mail me privately for requests it's no problem :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mm@UDel.Edu (Mike Markowski) Subject: Re: (kw) german kraftwerk Date: 07 Jun 1999 11:02:16 -0400 ward wrote: > >[...] I am interested in getting the >Kraftwerk CD's in their German versions, since I own the English already. >However, I am not interested in paying 28+ dollars for them. I was >wondering if anyone on the list knows where I can get these albums for less >than that. I'm guessing you're in the US since you mentioned dollars. If so, www.cdnow.com has decent prices on kw non-US discs, though their normal discs are a bit overpriced. (I just picked up a few kw discs myself since last week they were running a sale/free-shipping promo.) Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Armin.Poecker@t-online.de (Armin Poecker) Subject: (kw) EMI UK 12"'s Date: 06 Jun 1999 20:09:54 +0200 Hello, I have reason to believe that the 'plain sleeve issues' of the 1997 EMI UK 12"'s are bootlegs. > >I've got two spare copies of two 12" of the EMI's promobox set of four 12" > >singles issued to coincide with Tribal Gathering, limited editon to 500 > > I don't think they are so limited. I obtained all 12" through German > distributors Groove Attack and Rumble Records (ask your dealer) with plain > black sleeves. And they have loads on stock... No wonder... I've seen these and compared them to the originals. 1. they have handwritten matrix numbers opposed to the printed type on the original issues 2. the labels have some fuzzy print details, mainly visible in the EMI logos. Some of the copies I've seen also had a loose label edge. What I don't understand is why someone would go through the pains to produce such items of quite limited interest as bootlegs. As these records have mainly come up for sale in Germany, the manufacturer may also be german? I can only advise anyone interested in these 12" singles to stick with copies with picture sleeves. Gunther # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eugene Zaikonnikov" Subject: Re: (kw) german kraftwerk Date: 07 Jun 1999 18:50:21 +0300 As the talk has gone about local versions of KW tracks, can anyone confirm or disprove the following: one person on IRC told me that during they '81 tour, Kraftwerk performed in Poland (?), where they played Pocket Calculator in Russian (?!). You see, I just can't imagine well rhymed Russian version of P.C. lyrics. -- Eugene Zaikonnikov # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Luca Boccianti Subject: Re: (kw) german kraftwerk Date: 07 Jun 1999 18:08:57 +0200 > tour, Kraftwerk performed in Poland (?), where they played Pocket Calculator > in Russian (?!). > You see, I just can't imagine well rhymed Russian version of P.C. lyrics. well, if it could be of interest, they sound a bit weird in italian too... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gregg Shenton Subject: (kw) Mix Video Date: 07 Jun 1999 17:20:56 +0100 101cd.com (http://www.101cd.co.uk/ogrp01.asp?artist=KRAFTWERK) lists a Kraftwerk Mix Video KRAFTWERK - MIX Format: Video (PAL) Catalogue number: MVP9912943 UPC number: 5099999129439001 Release date: 6/10/91 Does anyone have any more details about what is actually on the Video? Gregg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) (off topic) can you find the title of this track Date: 07 Jun 1999 18:20:18 +0200 Hi, Sorry if I already asked this on the list, I don't remember... If you can identify the instrumental track at http://myftp.worldnet.fr/bonald/public/unknown.ram (RealPlayer G2 format) please let me know. It comes from a Krautrock tape I have but I don't have much information on the tracks. Thank you very much in advance. Arnaud # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Stagg Subject: (kw) "Music Non Stop" theme Date: 07 Jun 1999 12:53:21 -0400 -------------------- Begin Original Message -------------------- Message text written by "Jeroen de Haan" "> Speaking about jingels, does anybody know where to find Kraftwerks > jingle to the MTV-show "Music non stop"? Don't think it's an official KW-jingle, but merely a rip-off." -------------------- End Original Message -------------------- I thought that originally, but it is definitely Kraftwerk. The end credit= s to the show, which strangely don't get used very often, confirm it: "Titl= e Music - Kraftwerk". STAGGMAN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) german stuff Date: 07 Jun 1999 13:00:39 EDT In a message dated 07/06/99 09:05:33 GMT Daylight Time, landof_thelarge@hotmail.com writes: << I frequently stop by the local music store to check for 'new' kraftwerk stuff. >> nice to know there's some optimism left in the world ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ward" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Music Videos Date: 07 Jun 1999 15:09:30 -0400 Hi For anyone who was interested a great site for RealVideo Kraftwerk stuff is the Kraftwerk Media Archive. Its address is http://petenet.dragonfire.net/kw/index.html --Nate Ward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tanger" Subject: Re: (kw) german kraftwerk Date: 07 Jun 1999 22:28:27 +0200 it is true, they performed in warsaw, gdansk and katowice in 1981 promoting Computer World and yes they did sing the lyrics in russian tadream > Kraftwerk performed in Poland (?), where they played Pocket Calculator > in Russian (?!). > You see, I just can't imagine well rhymed Russian version of P.C. lyrics. > Eugene Zaikonnikov # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Priscila Morsoletto" Subject: (kw) Looking for bootlegs Date: 07 Jun 1999 19:21:30 -0300 Greetings all, Can anybody tell me where can I find any good store which sell bootleg CDs/tapes here in Sao Paulo? Please contact me privately. Thanks, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pawel Kalinowski" Subject: (kw) Shows in Poland and Russian lyrics Date: 08 Jun 1999 10:20:54 +0200 Hi, Well, having a tape from gig performed in Sopot I can tell you it is only partially true - that is they are "singing" Pocket Calculator in Polish, not Russian. Those languages are quite similar, but if they would sign anything in Russian language in Poland, 1981, they would be just killed with no mercy by the verociously mad crowd :] (they had been performing just before "martial state" was introduced and Solidarity delegalised with Lech Walesa (and thousands of other Solidarity members) sent to concentration camps. What is interesting about this tour, they are not singing in English, but rater in German, what might be understood as some kind of the political statement at that time (this is not my opinion, one of the list gurus thinks this way - to me it was not a political statement because ). Back about Russian lyrics - they have even changed text in die Roboter from Russian "I am your servant, I am your worker" (Ya tvoy sluga, ya tvoy rabotnik) to the Polish equivalent (that is almost identical, by the way). Of course during Numerren they sing 1,2,3 in Russian :) Best Regards, Pawel Kalinowski Project Manager / Mirage Media http://www.mirage.com.pl/ http://www.mortyr.com.pl/ >it is true, they performed in warsaw, gdansk and katowice in 1981 promoting >Computer World and yes they did sing the lyrics in russian >tadream > >> Kraftwerk performed in Poland (?), where they played Pocket Calculator >> in Russian (?!). >> You see, I just can't imagine well rhymed Russian version of P.C. lyrics. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peder Livijn Subject: (kw) Russian pronounciation Date: 08 Jun 1999 01:37:21 PDT Hello Since there are some russian guys on this list, i´d like to take this opportunity to clarify something that has always bugged me. I´ve studied russian for four years, thats not much, but enough to find the russian pronounciation in, especially, Man-machine really disturbingly bad. Its hard to write about pronounciation without an phonetic alphabet but try to read my proposal below, and tell me who´s got the better pronounciation me or KW?; Ja tv´aii zluu´ga ja tv´aii ra´bootnick (double vowels are long, and /o/ is the same as in german "Das Boot") Bye, Peder np:Die modulen spielen verrückt - Paso doble ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eugene Zaikonnikov" Subject: Re: (kw) Russian pronounciation Date: 08 Jun 1999 14:37:26 +0300 > to read my proposal below, and tell me who=B4s got the better pronounci= ation > me or KW?; > > Ja tv=B4aii zluu=B4ga ja tv=B4aii ra=B4bootnick > (double vowels are long, and /o/ is the same as in german "Das Boot") > Sorry to disappoint you Peder, but it seems KW pronounced it more correct= , although not perfect. Using your notation, it should be something like: Ja tv'ooj sluga, ja tv'ooj rab'ootnik. (u in sluga should sound hard). Also most of people think the phrase above should be translated like "I'm your slave, I'm your worker", while IMO it should be "I'm your servant, I= 'm your worker". BTW, Russian spelling in Numbers is much worse than in the Robot. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Off topic: Add N To (X) Date: 08 Jun 1999 10:25:24 +0200 lbo wrote: >>I recently saw Add N To (X) live. They seem to be highly influenced by KW > >maybe they have something to do with I Start Counting? (the group or the >song, I don't remember). I Start Counting (and also Fortran 5) are David Wilson-Baker & Simon Leonard two members of Komputer. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) german kraftwerk Date: 08 Jun 1999 15:26:31 +0200 Lenny G wrote: >what other language versions are there (other than english and german)? >Les Maniquinns - French >Mini Calculateur - French >Dentaku - Japanese >Sex Object - Spanish The correct spelling is Les Mannequins. (Facticex De Salle d'exposition). Numbers. The exclusively vocoded vocal counts from one to eight in various different languages including English, German, Russian, Japanese, Spanish and French. >also i am not sure about the "Sex Object" being in >spanish, can someone confirm, or correct me. Techno pop is also sung in Spanish and, along with Sex Object (yes, sung in Spanish), included in Electric Cafe Edicion Espanola LP. Priscila Morsoletto wrote: >Mini Calcolatore - Italian (only live version) This also was recorded for an Italian TV programm. I thought this entitled "Piccolo Calcolatore" or "Tascabile Calcolatore". >By the way, I hear something about Showroom Dummies in Spanish. Anybody >have any information about it? It should be "Sala de los Mudos" (Showroom Dummies). Quoted from Pascal Bussy's Man Machine & Music book: "Certain sources also claim that there are Spanish and Polish versions [of Pocket Calculator] which have never officially been released". DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Luca Boccianti Subject: Re: (kw) german kraftwerk Date: 08 Jun 1999 15:32:54 +0200 > >Mini Calcolatore - Italian (only live version) > > This also was recorded for an Italian TV programm. I thought this entitled > "Piccolo Calcolatore" or "Tascabile Calcolatore". the title should be Minicalcolatore (though I never see it on records), but they sing "sono l'operatore del mio piccolo calcolatore..." (guess what it means...). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timour JGENTI Subject: Re: (kw) Russian pronounciation Date: 08 Jun 1999 14:08:43 +0200 > Sorry to disappoint you Peder, but it seems KW pronounced it more correct, > although not perfect. Using your notation, it should be something like: > Ja tv'ooj sluga, ja tv'ooj rab'ootnik. (u in sluga should sound hard). Kraftwerk pronounciation is almost perfect, except the word 'sluga' which must be accented on the last 'a' instead of 'u'... but it doesn't ryme that well. > Also most of people think the phrase above should be translated like "I'm > your slave, I'm your worker", while IMO it should be "I'm your servant, I'm > your worker". totally agree, as 'slave' in russian is 'rab' (same root as 'rabotnik'! :) by the way once I imagined lyrics in russian for "pocket calculator". In order to make rymes I modified the original lyrics a bit (like it was done for the french version too) so it could sound a bit like that: ja javlajus operatorom s karmannym kalkulatorom ja schitaju i vichislaju ja slogaju i razlagaju na knopku najimaju ja slyshna melodia moja... ;-) well, written like this it looks horribly unreadable, sorry Tim -- Timour JGENTI _________________________________________________ _____________ IFP poste 8075 _____________ http://www.multimania.com/timlcf/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ricardo Cassolatto Subject: (kw) Russian - Robotnik Date: 08 Jun 1999 08:33:17 PDT I'm not sure, but the word ROBOT come from the russian dialect and mean "worker" or "work", correct me if I'm wrong !! And about Brazilian LIVE PA of KW, yesterday walking on the downtown, in the music galleries, I see the wonderful thing, a video with KW in Brazil live, with 4 tracks !!!!! I will buy one today, and share with us if possible !!!! I belive that the quality is good, because was record in a TV, I this one recorded, but this video I sad have one more track !!!! But I can't confirm , this, after buy the Video, I will pass the complete in formation and Track Names !!!!!!! Peace for all !!!!!! -----<< SINTETIK - The sintetik way of life >>----- sintetik@hotmail.com sintetik@briefcase.com To be a tracker-> www.maz-sound.com www.united-trackers.org www.traxinspace.com -----<< TRACK THE WORLD , YOU CAN DO THIS >>----- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Valery Kondakoff Subject: Re[2]: (kw) Russian pronounciation - Great! Date: 08 Jun 1999 19:28:52 +0400 Hello, Timour! âňîđíčę, 8 čţí˙ 1999 ă., you wrote to me: TJ> by the way once I imagined lyrics in russian for "pocket calculator". TJ> In order to make rymes I modified the original lyrics a bit (like TJ> it was done for the french version too) so it could sound a bit like TJ> that: TJ> ja javlajus operatorom s karmannym kalkulatorom TJ> ja schitaju i vichislaju TJ> ja slogaju i razlagaju TJ> na knopku najimaju ja slyshna melodia moja... ;-) TJ> well, written like this it looks horribly unreadable, sorry I think your version of Pocket Calculator is really great! :) There are only one or two corrections: ja javlajus operatorom s karmannym kalkulatorom ja slogaju i vichitaju ja schitaju i proverjaju na knopku najimaju ja slyshna melodia moja... ;-) Russian word "razlagaju" doesn't mean "subtracting" nor "division". "Schitaju" and "vichisljaju" - these words are synonyms (in general) Now we have a lyrics, that KW may use for future Russian Tour :) Best regards, Valery Kondakoff mailto:strauss@orc.ru http://www.nbk.orc.ru -- Moscow Rock-Club "Nĺ Áĺé Ęîďűňîě" Homepage # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peeters Ivo" Subject: Re: (kw) (off topic) can you find the title of this track Date: 08 Jun 1999 19:17:24 +0200 -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Arnaud de Bonald Aan: kraftwerk@xmission.com Datum: maandag 7 juni 1999 18:43 Onderwerp: (kw) (off topic) can you find the title of this track > >Hi, > >Sorry if I already asked this on the list, I don't remember... > >If you can identify the instrumental track at >http://myftp.worldnet.fr/bonald/public/unknown.ram (RealPlayer G2 format) >please let me know. > >It comes from a Krautrock tape I have but I don't have much information on the tracks. > It's 'Isi' by Neu from their album Neu '75. Regards, Ivo Peeters # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OGO Yoichiro Subject: Re: (kw) Russian - Robotnik Date: 09 Jun 1999 03:15:43 +0900 Hi, At 8:33 AM -0700 99.6.8, Ricardo Cassolatto wrote: > I'm not sure, but the word ROBOT come from the russian dialect and mean > "worker" or "work", correct me if I'm wrong !! Certainly Russian dialect form "robo'ta" exists, but, I guess, it has no relation. The word 'robot' originally comes from Karel Capek's, who is Czech's writer and dramaturge, "R.U.R" (Russum's Universal Robots)", pronouncing [er-uu-er]. In Russian "rabo'ta" means "work", "rabo'tnik" means "a worker". In German language, the word 'arbeit' comes from Russian word 'rabota'. Regards, OGO Yoichiro -------- Kraftwerk Mailing List Japan http://i.am/Kraftwerk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rochow@pixelmagic.com Subject: (kw) odd English-language TEE? Date: 08 Jun 1999 17:03:23 -0400 I just got the English version of TEE, the Capitol re- release, to be precise. First thoughts: the CD label is orange and very generic-looking, but for the green "Capitol" across the bottom. Hm. The booklet has the spread Heimatfilm-type scene (the 4 at the checkered cloth table) scrunched onto 1 page rather than 2, and there's an "EMIL/Emil/EMIL SCHULT" similar to the ones in R&F at the bottom. The illustrated track listing is next to the picture, only to leave the back of the booklet black. Did the original US-issue LP (or just the CD) come like this, rather than with the 2-page picture and the listing on the back of the booklet, or is this alteration new for the reissue? While Showroom Dummies and TEE are correct, just as on the early-90s "Dance Tracks" single CD, Europe Endless (my favorite) and Hall of Mirrors have some oddities: in EE, the main vocals sound like a to-be-discarded practice recording at times, with the volume too low or too high sometimes; the initial lead "Europe endless" has the 'l' badly swallowed; the chorus "endless" sometimes swings between channels much more than in the German version, sometimes 'end' is barely audible, sometimes too loud - very much like they were practising. On the other, the music seems to be the same; the single KW musical glitch I know of, a doubled percussion beat (electrical bounce, I guess) early in the track, is reproduced faithfully. What is really odd is that in Hall of Mirrors, the 'bassline' (main melody, really) which in the German version starts clearly on the first note of the theme at about 0:42, here *fades in* about 2 notes too early. Apart from indicating that the original melody is actually cut in where it sounds like the musician just starts to play, this indicates a undue amount of remixing for this version. My question: was the original English release of TEE this weird (the volume/mixing issues - obviously the bad singing is original), or was this done at CD-mastering or rereleasing time? thanks, -gbr # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: FW: (kw) Russian - Robotnik Date: 08 Jun 1999 23:36:00 +0200 To my knowledge the word robot comes from the Czeck word "robota", meaning worker. /Joakim -----Original Message----- I'm not sure, but the word ROBOT come from the russian dialect and mean "worker" or "work", correct me if I'm wrong !! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) odd English-language TEE? Date: 08 Jun 1999 17:51:04 EDT The original US lp had a songlist on the back like on the back of the case. I believe the label on the record looked the same. The two pages of the inside of the booklet were distributed on the two sides of the dust jacket. I have not heard the record in a long time, but I do notice an obvious difference between the German and English CD mixes of the album. TEE was also issued in the US on CD by Cleopatra records, but I have not personally experienced one of those. Sam Paterson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ward" Subject: Re: (kw) odd English-language TEE? Date: 08 Jun 1999 18:32:37 -0400 As S. Paterson has pointed out to me in the recent past, the German versions of the songs seem to have more enthusiasm in them than the English ones. This is noticable on "Abzug" in particular. I read somewhere about Kraftwerk referring to German as "the mother tongue", so it could be they are somehow trying to reinforce this by making the English versions noticably more flawed. Of course all that might be ridiculous and idle speculation on my part. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) For listmembers in/near Bremen or Muenchen Date: 09 Jun 1999 01:16:50 +0000 I am looking for somebody who 1) is interested in Kraftwerk, 2) has access to a Camcorder and/or a good audio recording device, ;-) 3) lives in or near Bremen or Muenchen. Please mail me privately for details. Thanks in advance, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ward" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk IRC Date: 08 Jun 1999 22:25:04 -0400 hi Are there any IRC channels for Kraftwerk, and if so on what server Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk IRC Date: 08 Jun 1999 23:49:15 "ward" wrote: >Are there any IRC channels for Kraftwerk, and if so on what server Yes indeed. For several years now, the unofficial Kraftwerk chat channel (#kraftwerk) on IRC has been located on DALnet servers worldwide. Feel free to pop in and say hi some time. nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) New Kraftwerk Compilation? Date: 09 Jun 1999 11:35:32 +0000 The following item is offered at JPC (http://www.jpc.de). Any idea what this could be?: Kraftwerk: Best Of Kraftwerk, CD, MSI 1999 (no more details given). It might be the Japanese "Best Of" CD, but this wasn't on MSI, as far as I know. Is there a website for the MSI label? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Electro Funk Essentials Date: 09 Jun 1999 11:35:31 +0000 There's a new multi-artist compilation out that features a Kraftwerk track: "Electro Funk Essentials" (Uni/Hip-O-Records, 1999) Tracklisting: 01. Scorpio - Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five (12" mix) 02. Electric Kingdom - Twilight 22 (12" mix) 03. When I Hear Music - Debbie Deb (12" mix) 04. Jam On It - Newcleus (12" mix) 05. White Horse - Laid Back (12" mix) 06. Trans-Europe Express - Kraftwerk 07. Clear - Cybotron 08. I Wonder If I Take You Home - Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam/Full Force (12" mix) 09. Will We Ever Learn? - Pretty Tony (12" Instrumental mix) 10. Let The Music Play - Shannon (12" mix) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Bartos namecheck in WOM Journal Date: 09 Jun 1999 12:52:37 +0000 Karl Bartos gets a brief mention in an interview with Electronic, published in the June issue of the German freebie WOM Journal, where Johnny Marr describes how Bartos was once sitting in undertrousers on Marr's sofa... Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Roland Metzger Subject: (kw) KW Jingle on Expo 2000 Homepage Date: 09 Jun 1999 18:40:21 +0200 check.. http://www.expo2000.de/deutsch/aktuell/index.html !!! Roland # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DepecheCBI@aol.com Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk EXPO-Jingle - download Date: 09 Jun 1999 13:29:18 EDT Hi! You can now download KRAFTWERK=B4s EXPO 2000 - Jingle @: http://www.expo2000.de Unfortunately, you have to sign up "Community EXPO2000"-membership first. Carsten Bolte. Kiel. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "System Administrator " Subject: (kw) News about the EXPO Jingle?? Date: 09 Jun 1999 09:14:04 +0200 Are there any news about the EXPO2000 Jingle that Kraftwerk is supposed to do? Cheers, Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:32:28 -0700 Date: 09 Jun 1999 14:32:50 -0600 TEST # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom807@aol.com Subject: (kw) expo 2000 jingle Date: 09 Jun 1999 16:41:46 EDT Hi. I went to the Expo 2000 site, but in order to download the Kraftwerk jingle, one has to "register." But, the registration form is in German only. Bummer. Translation for us non-German speakers please!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rochow@pixelmagic.com Subject: Re:(kw) expo 2000 jingle Date: 09 Jun 1999 17:43:51 -0400 Registration Form: enter (required): userid for this site, email to receive "registration activation info" (?)), password for this site, town of residence. non-required: first, last name, postal code, street, country, age range (default on the last 2: no info given), gender. Push button to submit. Data submitted will not be released to third parties nor used for advertising purposes. -gbr ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Hi. I went to the Expo 2000 site, but in order to download the Kraftwerk jingle, one has to "register." But, the registration form is in German only. Bummer. Translation for us non-German speakers please!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Roland Metzger Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Roboter Skateboard available for order?! Date: 10 Jun 1999 01:24:27 +0200 Head over to http://www.ticketworld.de/cgi-bin/jumpin.pl?f,english,KRAFTWERK and move down to the end... there you see KRAFTWERK Skateboard Motiv ROBOTER for just DEM 105.... available for order Sounds cool, but it is a bit an unlikely merchandise for Kraftwerk, isn't it? PS: Unfortunately no picture (yet?) available on that page. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Juno Jackson Subject: (kw) Ticket World Online (problems with ordering T-shirts) Date: 09 Jun 1999 18:09:18 PDT Hey people !!! I'm having a bit of trouble ordering a KW T-shirt on Ticket World's site. I don't speak any German; could someone out there walk me through how to finish checking out ? Thanks, NOISEWERKER Now Playing: Rammstein : Senschut Art of Noise: The Seduction of Claude Debussy :) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Knight Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 song? Date: 09 Jun 1999 21:55:06 -0400 O k, had the wife help me "Register" with Expo 2000.... Where the hell do I find the 'Expo 20000" song ? Eric Knight AKA= ericknig@sprynet.com Kraftwerk...... A way of life ! Home page:http://home.sprynet.com/~ericknig/kraftwerk.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicolau Centola Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 Date: 09 Jun 1999 21:09:41 PDT OK, I give up!! 1 a.m. and I cannot find KW jingle at Expo 2000. Anybody could help me telling the correct address? Private mail, please. Thanks in advance. Peace. See you in Hannover. Nicolau ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Roland Metzger Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 Jingle is in 6 languages... Date: 10 Jun 1999 14:13:26 +0200 I just got confirmation from the EXPO 2000 site of my membership! So here is the text from the site: But it is not THAT amazing. It is basically just the word "Expo 2000" in the vocoderized style of "Musique Nonstop". Must have taken years to create... ;-) Tschuess Roland Die legendäre deutsche Band Kraftwerk ("Autobahn") hat die Erkennungsmelodie der Weltausstellung komponiert, den Expo-Jingle. Zum Einsatz kommt die einprägsame Tonfolge beispielsweise bei Ankündigungen von Rundfunk- und Fernsehübertragungen, zur Begrüßung im Internet oder als Pausengong bei Veranstaltungen der EXPO 2000. Wir bieten Ihnen hier den Expo-Jingle, den Kraftwerk in sechs Sprachen produziert hat, exklusiv zum Download an. Live zu erleben ist Kraftwerk in einem Konzert auf der Weltausstellung am 9. Juni 2000 in der Arena. Der "Expo-Jingle" als Sound-Datei (.wav-Format): "Expo-Jingle" 1 (deutsch) "Expo-Jingle" 2 (englisch) "Expo-Jingle" 3 (französisch) "Expo-Jingle" 4 (russisch) "Expo-Jingle" 5 (spanisch) "Expo-Jingle" 6 (japanisch) "Expo-Jingle" (komplett, ca. 5,4 MB) Der "Expo-Jingle" als RealAudio (.ra-Format): "Expo-Jingle" 1 (deutsch) "Expo-Jingle" 2 (englisch) "Expo-Jingle" 3 (französisch) "Expo-Jingle" 4 (russisch) "Expo-Jingle" 5 (spanisch) "Expo-Jingle" 6 (japanisch) "Expo-Jingle" (komplett) Klicken Sie bitte auf den von Ihnen gewünschten "Expo-Jingle" im *.wav- oder *.ra-Format, um es sofort anzuhören. PC-User: Für den Download der Sounddateien halten Sie bitte die Shift (Großschreibtaste) gedrückt und klicken mit der Maustaste auf den gewünschten Jingle. Viel Spaß! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) Expo 2000 song? Date: 10 Jun 1999 14:21:10 +0200 You have to register to be able to enter the member area (you've done = that). After registering you'll have to wait some days to get an activation = code. When this is complete you just enter the member area and on the first = page you'll find a link: "Exklusiv in der EXPO 2000 Member Area: " "Der EXPO 2000/Kraftwerk "Expo-Jingle" zum Download" Just follow this and you'll find 14 files to download (7 * two formats) The files are: "Expo-Jingle" 1 (deutsch) (German) "Expo-Jingle" 2 (englisch) (English) "Expo-Jingle" 3 (franz=F6sisch) (Frensh) "Expo-Jingle" 4 (russisch) (Russian) "Expo-Jingle" 5 (spanisch) (Spanish) "Expo-Jingle" 6 (japanisch) (Japanese) "Expo-Jingle" (komplett, ca. 5,4 MB)=20 /Joakim -----Original Message----- O k, had the wife help me "Register" with Expo 2000.... Where the hell do I find the 'Expo 20000" song ?=B4 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: Re: (kw) german kraftwerk Date: 08 Jun 1999 12:53:57 +0200 At 10.37 06/06/99 -0300, Priscila Morsoletto wrote: > >On 6 Jun 99 at 1:04, 47 wrote: > >>good question! i've been looking for the same for a long time. if some >>one has an answer please forward it to me as well. also, what other >>language versions are there (other than english and german)? >> >>Les Maniquinns - French >>Mini Calculateur - French >>Dentaku - Japanese >>Sex Object - Spanish > >Mini Calcolatore - Italian (only live version) > >I hear this one from their concert in Bologna 91 (Italy) and it's doesn't >exist >in studio version. I think they played it also in their concerts in Italy 81. It's not exactly correct. Into the bootleg "Hyper Cerebral Machine", recorded at Apollo Theatre in Firenze in 1981, or the bootleg recorded in Bologna in 1991, it's possible to hear Ralf singing <>, the italian words for " I'm the operator of my pocket calculator", but ALL the other lyrics are in english ! Didi Milan - PDN di.di@tiscalinet.it # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Jungle World on Kraftwerk Date: 10 Jun 1999 14:47:02 +0000 http://jungle-world.com/_99/20/15a.htm features an extended version of Ulf Poschardt's article (German language) on Kraftwerk, Laibach, Rammstein and Facism, that was published in the Sueddeutsche Zeitung a few weeks ago. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) EXPO-jingle for download at KlingKlang Date: 10 Jun 1999 14:50:05 +0100 You can listen to / download the jingle at my page at: (no membership required http://members=2Etripod=2Ecom/~KlingKlang/index=2Ehtml It's in WAv-format, and its BIG >5Mb Bye/Johan=20= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Holydays!!!! Date: 10 Jun 1999 15:31:53 +0200 I'll be on holydays from June 11 to 20! If anyone wants to get in touch with me, I beg you please wait until Thursday 24 (if there are no date advances..., then I will tell you). I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Aviador Dro at Sonar 99 Date: 10 Jun 1999 15:57:10 +0200 El Aviador Dro Y Sus Obreros Especializados will play at Sonar 99 (Barcelona) friday 18th June 1999 at 21:00 and the concert will be broadc= ast live Via Internet from Hall of CCCB (Center of Contemporary Culture of Barcelona) on real time, URL: http://www.sonar.es/s99/cast/online/online.htm It is possible they'll play "The Model" ("La Modelo", with a lyric sung i= n Spanish), the first cover version done of that song. Quoted from www.sonar.es: "El Aviador Dro Y Sus Obreros Especializados (Rompeolas/Madrid) Concert With "Opera Cientifica=94, the first Spanish t= echno group has just started up its machinery nearly twenty years after it firs= t productions. A retrospective look at the best in futuristic pop." DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom807@aol.com Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 Jingle Date: 10 Jun 1999 10:08:44 EDT What a disappointment. Not a "jingle" but only Vocorder-ized voice. Oh, well. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stefan Norman Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 "song" in MP3 format Date: 10 Jun 1999 16:16:54 +0200 For you who doesn't like to download the nearly 6MB .wav file, I've converted it into an 600kb .mp3 file. Get it here: http://www8.tripnet.se/~stefann/expo2000.mp3 Spoiler! Its _not_ an song! Just an vocodervoice saying "expo2000" in different language. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ullrich Peter Subject: (kw) Expo2000 Jingles in MP3-Format on my homepage! Date: 10 Jun 1999 16:15:44 +0200 OK, now the Jingles are in MP3 format on my website. But you have to you the direct link as it is not mentioned on any page. http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3586/expo2000.zip Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: http://come.to/ullrich or the full link http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3586/ Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician .oooO KAPSCH AG / SGB2 Vienna / Austria ( ) Oooo. Traffic Control and Transmission Technology ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ullrich Peter Subject: (kw) Expo2000 Jingles in MP3-Format available on request Date: 10 Jun 1999 15:53:56 +0200 I loaded the Jingle-Files and converted them to MP3 (128kBit/s, stereo) and zipped all files. If anybody wants this zipfile (983kB) please let me know. I will send it to you. Maybe anybode can put the file on his webpage! The connection to geocities is broken at the moment so I can't put it on my page. Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: http://come.to/ullrich or the full link http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3586/ Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician .oooO KAPSCH AG / SGB2 Vienna / Austria ( ) Oooo. Traffic Control and Transmission Technology ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matsk@lhmendez.se Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO-jingle for download at KlingKlang Date: 10 Jun 1999 17:04:32 +0200 Hello, I have downloaded and listened to the 5 Mb wave-file and I must say it's not much of a song, just the vocoded words "Expo 2000" in differen= t languages...so if you have a slow internet connection, don't expect anything worth waiting hours for.....but if you have a fast one, why no= t download it.... Mats http://hem.fyristorg.com/kraftwerk --- Mats Kadmark L&H Mendez Sweden AB (a subsidiary of Lernout & Hauspie Speech Products N.V.) Phone +46 31-775 60 80 (operator) +46 31-775 61 10 (direct) +46 707-34 23 22 (mobile) Fax +46 31 775 60 81 E-mail matsk@lhmendez.se www http://www.lhmendez.se/ Address F=F6rsta L=E5nggatan 30, S-413 27 G=F6teborg, Sweden = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Mills Subject: (kw) Orbit hardcore mix Date: 10 Jun 1999 16:19:27 +0100 Does anybody know of anywhere I can download the Orbit Hardcore mix of Radioactivity from ?? Regards Paul Mills paulm@intercell.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hazard.bsn@maks.net Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Jingle Date: 10 Jun 1999 18:25:24 +0400 Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 10:08:44AM -0400 Tom807@aol.com ÎÁĐÉÓÁĚ ĐĎ ĐĎ×ĎÄŐ (kw) Expo 2000 Jingle > > What a disappointment. Not a "jingle" but only Vocorder-ized voice. Oh, > well. After all this is the first new official material from Kraftwerk in many years... better than nothing, although not impressive considering how long we had to wait. -- Best Regards Vladimir Ivaschenko http://www.hazard.maks.net/~hazard # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matsk@lhmendez.se Subject: (kw) orbit-mix Date: 10 Jun 1999 17:25:53 +0200 << Subject: SV: (kw) who is who? Date: 11 Jun 1999 19:19:51 +0200 From left to right: Wolfgang Flur, Karl Bartos, Florian Schneider, Ralf Hutter. This is according to the "J. Stara" picture, not the Maurice Seymour = one. /Daniel >=20 > can someone tell me who the members of Kraftwerk are as they appear on = the=20 > cover of Trans-Europe Express. from the left side to the right. i = always=20 > wanted to know who's face goes with what name. thank you who ever can = help=20 > me. bye, kenny >=20 >=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk's long over due tribute Date: 11 Jun 1999 10:17:15 -0700 Dear werkers: I took it upon myself to write a special, and somewhat "naive" request to several media companies, in regards to, what I consider, a long overdue TV tribute and, or accomplishment award to a serious musical pioneer: our heroes. Although I am not probably the first one asking for such a thing, I thought it will be interesting to see what they had to say about such an unusual "non-top-40" related request. I'd sent that e-mail (about two pages worth) on Fri 06/04, and so far, this is the only reply I received: >Hi Enrique >I agree with much of what you say - but they never give interviews. Believe me, we ve tried; we >realize how important they are. It s difficult to do a proper piece on them if they won't talk. >Tim Lister >World Beat I realize they probably didn't gave any interviews, because they were so busy recording the extremely intricate EXPO2K jingle. Anyway at least now I know that we're not alone on this endeavor. I wish the other entertainment companies, have better luck finding tricks up their sleeves in persuading KW to do a little something special for us, their fans, specially now, that they have something to promote ;-) I'll keep you guys posted with the latest scoop on this. Best regards, Enrique FYI: the companies addressed on that e-mail were: MTV, VH1, The Recording Academy (Grammy), Microsoft's e-channel, Billboard, The Wire, Music Newswire, Keyboard magazine and CNN's World Beat. KW4EVER!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Juno Jackson Subject: (kw) Mad Props to Enrique Date: 11 Jun 1999 11:39:02 PDT I would like to send out a massive thanks to Enrique Correa for his KW media endeavors. I have tried to organize people on mailing lists before to try to do this sort of thing and I never get a reply. I too, believe that KW needs to be given their overdue justice on TV and radio. Even if KW doesn't do interviews, MTV could do a video special or something. Just because the boys don't like interviews doesn't mean that the press and entertainment industries should forget about them !!!! Your effort is tremendously appreciated. Sincerely, NOISEWERKER _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk's long over due tribute Date: 11 Jun 1999 12:48:50 -0600 (MDT) On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Enrique Correa wrote: > I took it upon myself to write a special, and somewhat "naive" request to > several media companies, in regards to, what I consider, a long overdue TV > tribute and, or accomplishment award to a serious musical pioneer: our Good job, Enrique. You're a less lazy person than I. :) It's too bad KW don't do interviews. Or at least not enough of them. Maybe they're too busy, or maybe they don't want to be asked where the heck the new album is, or maybe they just want to stay out of the public eye. (Ow! I've got Hutter in my eye! :) I just hope Florian is still giving the occasional lecture or KW is still putting on the occasional performance in the far-off future day when I can afford to take a trip to Europe. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * Microsoft: It may big, but at least it's slow. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Knight Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 is that all??? Date: 10 Jun 1999 20:59:05 -0400 Ok, I got the mp3 , Thanks to list member Peter Ulrich! Guess thats all for them for the next 10 years? (Hope not! ) Florian really put a lot of work into that little ditty!! (Grin) In all seriousness, we all know the men from Dusseldorf have something up their sleeves, They are just waitng to drop it into our hands & Ears! Being the devotee's we are we will (By all means necessary! ) clamour for their gifts to us! Eric Knight AKA= ericknig@sprynet.com Kraftwerk...... A way of life ! Home page:http://home.sprynet.com/~ericknig/kraftwerk.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hazard.bsn@maks.net Subject: (kw) ftp Date: 11 Jun 1999 14:58:28 +0400 I've setted up a small FTP server mainly related to Kraftwerk bootlegs and records hard to find. It doesn't have much now, but I'm planning on further updates. Feel free to go to ftp://mp3:leech@kw.nvr.ru:2000/. The server has a ratio 1:50, mainly to encourage people to exchange the material they have. -- Best Regards Vladimir Ivaschenko http://www.hazard.maks.net/~hazard # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) 'The Wire' Date: 11 Jun 1999 14:36:52 +0100 The June issue of 'The Wire' (UK music magazine) has an article about Krautrock, seen as a German fixation with speed and motorways. 1/2 page B&W picture of Kraftwerk playing 'Autobahn' live. Probably nothing here devotees haven't learned elsewhere. KB PS (Main item this issue: 8 page piece on Stockhausen). -- Genetically engineered/corrupted Nature: the world ends for a fast buck. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "FXCordero" Subject: (kw) Sleeping Giant Date: 11 Jun 1999 20:54:58 -0600 "Yes, Doctor! I feel a pulse! It's Alive!" First of all thanks to thanks to list member Peter Ulrich! Tom807@aol.com writes: What a disappointment. Not a "jingle" but only Vocorder-ized voice. Oh, well. I beg to differ. Each language version is a note on the scale. I assigned each one a pad on my SP-808 and created my EXPO 2000 mix. Added a MM and TEE rhythm track....and presto! KW Jingle. Anyone notice the second measure? Heavy bass. Reminds me of a movie house pipe organ massaging your abdomen. Eric Knight writes: In all seriousness, we all know the men from Dusseldorf have something up their sleeves. Here! Here! http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/kw2000.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Priscila Morsoletto" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 is that all??? Date: 12 Jun 1999 00:20:58 -0300 On 10 Jun 99 at 20:59, Eric Knight wrote: >Florian really put a lot of work into that little ditty!! (Grin) No, no!!!! It's NOT Florian's voice with vocoder... it's that thing (which I forgot the name) what make a virtual voice. *sigh* And I've nothing to talk about this jingle. *sigh*!!! Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) german kraftwerk Date: 12 Jun 1999 18:55:18 +0200 On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 17:34:10 -0400, ward wrote: > >hi > >This may come across as a dumb question, but I am interested in getting the >Kraftwerk CD's in their German versions, since I own the English already. >However, I am not interested in paying 28+ dollars for them. I was >wondering if anyone on the list knows where I can get these albums for less >than that. try www.telecd.com, German CD store. The problem, they have redesigned their Web store and then the English / french / ... interface is not available ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lrk@ik2000.se Subject: (kw) Bartos chat Date: 12 Jun 1999 20:00:00 +0000 You could find a reprint of a chat with Karl Bartos & Hans Erkendahl (Mobile Homes) along with a few pictures of the two at: http://www2.passagen.se/snack/kandis/arkiv/bartos/bartoschat.htm Here Karl reveals who influenced KW to wear red shirts and black ties among other interesting things!! ;-) Most of it is unfortunately written in Swedish, however there's also some (bad) English to be read. /Marcus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DepecheCBI@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO-jingle for download at KlingKlang Date: 10 Jun 1999 13:29:40 EDT In einer eMail vom 10.06.99 17:12:22 (MEZ) - Mitteleurop. Sommerzeit schreib= t=20 matsk@lhmendez.se: > Hello, > =20 > I have downloaded and listened to the 5 Mb wave-file and I must say > it's not much of a song, just the vocoded words "Expo 2000" in different > languages...so if you have a slow internet connection, don't expect > anything worth waiting hours for.....but if you have a fast one, why not > download it.... I would suggest downloading the RealAudio-file, because it=B4s only 61KB "bi= g".=20 It=B4s not in stereo, but just "EXPO 2000" in different languages doesn=B4t = need=20 stereo, I think. I can mail it to anybody who wants it. Carsten Bolte. Kiel. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Priscila Morsoletto" Subject: (kw) TDF question Date: 12 Jun 1999 16:15:54 -0300 Greetings all, Does Kraftwerk ever play TDF in German live??? Please tell if you know any concert they played it in German, I listen lot's of their concerts in Germany and in all it was in French. Thanks, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Wolfgang Fluer Book Date: 12 Jun 1999 22:27:06 +0000 I've received the following information by e-mail: > ...es ist soweit. > wolfgang fluer hat ein buch ueber seine zeit mit kraftwerk geschrieben. > veroeffentlicht wird es im august/september 1999. > titel"kraftwerk transformiert" > das buch beinhaltet viele bisher noch nicht veroeffentlichte fotos aus > fluer=B4s privatarchiv. Translation: Wolfgang Fluer wrote a book about his time with Kraftwerk. The book is scheduled for August/September 1999. Title: "Kraftwerk tranformiert". The book includes many previously unreleased photos from Fluer's private collection. Additional information can be found at amazon.de. According to the Amazon databases, the title is "Ich war kein Roboter". (Price: DM 35,00; ISBN: 3854451733.) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: EXPO Jingle (was: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 is that all???) Date: 12 Jun 1999 22:27:06 +0000 > No, no!!!! It's NOT Florian's voice with vocoder... How do you know? Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WILLIAM DOBIESZ Subject: (kw) FTP Site? Date: 12 Jun 1999 18:44:47 -0400 First of all, I have changed ISPs - anyone who was planning on sending something to my huggy_bear@ameritech.net address, or has that address of mine in their address book, please change it to the one at the top of this message. I think I finally have a FTP site up...maybe someone who is more knowledgeable can see how it works. There are a number of songs there, the ones of interest to this group are: robots.mp3 The Robots (single edit) 1981 3,571,869 bytes robotnik.mp3 Robotnik 7,427,696 bytes robotrnk.mp3 Robotronik 4,759,710 bytes Heck, I've already said what mixes these are, and I can't find my record at the moment. Off topic: Also available if you want, is novelty.mp3 - 2,768,133 bytes. The song is called "Foreign Novelty Smash" by The Credibility Gap. The group made a single, which was an impression of the Osmond Brothers doing an impression of The Jackson 5. They needed a B side...so they got a English-German phrase book, and selected phrases that fit the meter of the song (without caring what they mean). So, what we have here is a group of Americans who don't speak German, singing a song in German. It sounds fine in English, just that the words aren't understandable (because they're in German). But - In German, the words are understandable - but the song makes no sense. I find it very funny myself (for the little German that I do know). I'm sure some of you would get a smile out of it. It is a rare recording...(fortunately). Huggy Bear (happy to be @home now...) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "angelo" Subject: (kw) Voice from Expo 2000! Date: 12 Jun 1999 20:52:23 -0300 The voice from Expo2000, is a Florian's voice, so? Do anyone think like me? I wait the answer!!! --- ----------------- //////////ANGELO///////////////////// angelo@urbi.com.br Miguel Angelo C. Pra=E7a////// http://www.urbi.com.br/users/angelo \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ICQ#: 11606126 /////////////////////// --- ----------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wolfhardt.Wess@t-online.de Subject: (kw) Arbeiten:Woeks:Oevres-CD Date: 13 Jun 1999 10:17:27 +0200 Hello, Can anybody mail the track list or even further details of the "Arbeiten:Works:Oevres"-CD to me ? Thanks in advance Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik J. Eid" Subject: (kw) Vaporware? Date: 13 Jun 1999 12:10:29 -0400 Last I heard, Wolfgang Fl=FCr was working on a new Yamo album, scheduled for release in winter 1999. We're into June now and there's still nothing. Perhaps he put it on hold in favor of the Kraftwerk book he is reportedly writing. Still, does anyone have any info about this? How about a web site? . . \_ +\_ + o_-/ . O . \-_o -=3D/- . . . . \=3D// .=20 ---------\_______ ||O ___.______ /* Erik Eid */ \____||L/\_____/ /* eeid@wwnet.net */_______________________=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik J. Eid" Subject: (kw) Concentrations Date: 13 Jun 1999 12:13:00 -0400 I am curious as to where Kraftwerk fans are concentrated in the U.S. Since the fan base is either not as strong or just more scattered than overseas, I occasionally wonder if I'm one of only a few. I have noticed a couple of fellow Michiganders on the list. To those of you living in the U.S., where are you, and what kind of support for Kraftwerk have you encountered there? . . \_ +\_ + o_-/ . O . \-_o -=/- . . . . \=// . ---------\_______ ||O ___.______ /* Erik Eid */ \____||L/\_____/ /* eeid@wwnet.net */_______________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL Subject: Re: (kw) Concentrations Date: 13 Jun 1999 09:25:28 -0700 I am in the vicinity of San Francisco California. Originally from Ohio but I essentially grew up in Southern California (Anaheim) which is where I discoveredand learned to love Kraftwerk while in High School circa 1973 or 1974. As for support of Kraftwerk around here? Sad to say it seems sporadic. The live show last June 7th (hard to belive more than a year ago!) was packed though!!!!! Bill "Erik J. Eid" wrote: > I am curious as to where Kraftwerk fans are concentrated in the U.S. Since > the fan base is either not as strong or just more scattered than overseas, > I occasionally wonder if I'm one of only a few. > > I have noticed a couple of fellow Michiganders on the list. > > To those of you living in the U.S., where are you, and what kind of support > for Kraftwerk have you encountered there? > . . \_ +\_ + o_-/ . O > . \-_o -=/- . . > . . \=// . > ---------\_______ ||O ___.______ > /* Erik Eid */ \____||L/\_____/ > /* eeid@wwnet.net */_______________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Concentrations Date: 13 Jun 1999 12:23:27 EDT In a message dated 6/13/99 9:15:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, eeid@wwnet.net writes: << To those of you living in the U.S., where are you, and what kind of support for Kraftwerk have you encountered there? >> Bay Area, California--significant support! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "FXCordero" Subject: Re: (kw) Concentrations Date: 13 Jun 1999 10:40:31 -0600 Erik J. writes: To those of you living in the U.S., where are you, and what kind of support for Kraftwerk have you encountered there? I live in Santa Fe, NM. Kraftwerk support here is strong. Morton Subotnick also lives here. http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/kw2000.htm ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Obituary notice for Heinrich Klotz Date: 13 Jun 1999 18:52:43 +0000 The current issue of the German magazine DIE ZEIT, p. 49, includes a large obituary notice for ZKM founder and HfG rector Heinrich Klotz, who died last week. Florian Schneider is listed as one of the signers. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Re-werked Remix" Date: 13 Jun 1999 18:52:42 +0000 There's a new Kraftwerk bootleg out, a collection of DJ medleys/remixes: "Re-werked Remix", CD, "Kling Klang Produkt 128" Tracklisting: a) 01. Uran / Stimme der Energie / Radioaktivitaet 02. Die Roboter 03. Radioaktivitaet 04. Computerliebe 05. Taschenrechner 06. Dentaku 07. Spacelab 08. Telephone (sic!) 09. Sexobjekt (sic!) 10. Electric Cafe 11. Computerwelt 12. It's more fun to compute 13. Nummern 14. Heimcomputer 15. Ohm Sweet Ohm 16. Metropolis 17. Model (sic!) 18. Les Mannequins 19. Schaufensterpuppen 20. Kometenmelodie (sic!) b) Kraftakt '99 21. Transeuropa Express / Boing Boom Tschak / Musique non stop / Nummern c) Asia Mix '99 22. Tour de France d) Electrovader Mix '99 23. Pocket Calculator e) Modulationen '99 24. The Model f) C-Tronik Mix '99 25. Neonlicht Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) More details about Fluer's book Date: 13 Jun 1999 18:52:42 +0000 www.buecher.de has some more details about Wolfgang Fluer's forthcoming book: Fluer, Wolfgang: Ich war kein Roboter. Mein Leben mit Kraftwerk. ( Rock-Geschichte). HANNIBAL, 0999 Kt 260 S. Zahlr. Abb. ISBN: 3-85445-173-3 noch unbestimmt DM 35.00, OeS 256.00, sFr 35.00 Translation: Fluer, Wolfgang: I was no robot. My life with Kraftwerk. (Rock history) Publisher: Hannibal; release date: September 1999 Paperback 260 pages Many pictures Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Concentrations Date: 13 Jun 1999 13:01:01 EDT I live in Kent, Ohio. I got a chance to see Kraftwerk in Detroit last summer. There are a few fans around here. The only hardcore fans I know are my close friends (who I introduced to Kraftwerk). One of them is fellow list member wardkent@gateway.net For the most part, however, my Autobahn t-shirt only gets puzzled looks. The most common awareness of Kraftwerk comes from people who know "Trans-Europe Express" from dance clubs and have never heard of the group. Additionally, there are a lot of losers who have The Mix. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phaethon0@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Concentrations Date: 13 Jun 1999 13:49:28 EDT <> I am from Philadelphia and am sad to report that there is almost no support for Kraftwerk here!! The only people I know who are even mildly acquainted with KW are the people I myself have introduced Kraftwerk to. I'm 17 (born the same year Computer World came out) and I probably would have never heard of Kraftwerk had I not been such a big fan of electronica. Seeing the name listed by so many other artists as a prime influence caused me to pick up the Mix and start my journey into Kraftwerkdom. Before buying KW albums, I had never even heard one of their songs (not that I remember anyway). Kraftwerk's prescence on television and radio here is virtually nil, and knowledge of their very existence is probably less than 3% of the population. Among the youth, less than 1%. The only way to encounter Kraftwerk music or the Kraftwerk name is to buy records. At least a few Kraftwerk albums seem to be in almost every store, luckily. I will be attending the Orbital concert here next month and will probably wear some Kraftwerk merchandise. Hopefully someone there other than me or the Hartnolls will have heard of (and love) KW. The Philly fan-base is mostly into hip-hop and blue collar hard rock. Metallica is like the Beatles here. Kraftwerk definately is not. Computer love, -ericg- phaethon0@aol.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peeters Ivo" Subject: Re: (kw) Off topic: Add N To (X) Date: 13 Jun 1999 21:15:49 +0200 -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Andrew@hotmail.com ; T@hotmail.com ; [K_303]@hotmail.com Aan: Ivo.Peeters@village.uunet.be Datum: donderdag 10 juni 1999 2:16 Onderwerp: Re: (kw) Off topic: Add N To (X) >Hey, where did you see them?? I posted a note about them about 6 months >ago, saying they were totally intense. I have both "on the wires of our >nerves" and "little black rocks on the sun" (or whatever it is) on CD. I >would highly suggest you get the "wires on our nervers", it is an amazing >CD. The rocks song is a bit odd- not too much happens and its just one >song. It was cheap so I dont mind getting it. Tell me all about the >concert! > I've seen them in Brussels (Ancienne Belgique) in the beginning of May. The concert was very good. It's difficult to describe since only the music counted. No visuals were used. Only a lot of antique electronics like the theremin. I have now the latest album 'Avant hard' and the single 'Metal fingers in my body' which I like very much. Ivo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Finarvas Subject: Re: (kw) Voice from Expo 2000! Date: 13 Jun 1999 22:12:14 +0200 angelo wrote: > > The voice > from Expo2000, is a Florian's voice, so? > Do anyone think like me? > > I wait the answer!!! Where can I find the jingle? -- <----------Finarvas----------> <------finarvas@linux.nu-----> <------come.to/finarvas/-----> <------Karl-------Herolf-----> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonMalis@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Concentrations Date: 13 Jun 1999 17:28:18 EDT I'm in the Boston area and there isn't much support. The most I've seen was from Nik Carter (at WBCN 104.1 FM; he hosts his own radio show which he uses KW samples during phone calls) He agrees that they are great, but they dont play on the radio that well. I stil think that there should be more radio play and support for the great band. I was first introduced to Kraftwerk at an early age (my Dad's car tapes) and have recently rediscovered them and really like the stuff. -Jon In a message dated 6/13/99 12:24:15 PM, bgillam@pacbell.net writes: >> I am curious as to where Kraftwerk fans are concentrated in the U.S. > Since >> the fan base is either not as strong or just more scattered than overseas, >> I occasionally wonder if I'm one of only a few. >> >> I have noticed a couple of fellow Michiganders on the list. >> >> To those of you living in the U.S., where are you, and what kind of support >> for Kraftwerk have you encountered there? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TiMeZeRo [Daniel Mark]" Subject: (kw) (re) KRAFTWERK MP3s AGAIN Date: 12 Jun 1999 00:25:36 +0200 I need a good kraftwerk mp3 place/archive.. Zero # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Priscila Morsoletto" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk's server information Date: 13 Jun 1999 20:45:41 -0300 Hello all, I was looking around that Kraftwerk server then I find this information: Registrant: Klingklang(R) Studio c/o Andreas Kuckartz (KRAFTWERK2-DOM) Hochstrasse 24 Dortmund, D-44149 DE Domain Name: KRAFTWERK.COM Administrative Contact: Kuckartz, Andreas (AK978) compusic@CSI.COM +49 (231) 9 17 30 26 Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Beroff, David (DB617) david@NOTE.COM (215) 576-6800 Billing Contact: Kuckartz, Andreas (AK978) compusic@CSI.COM +49 (231) 9 17 30 26 Record last updated on 10-Jan-99. Record created on 03-Dec-96. Database last updated on 12-Jun-99 08:12:07 EDT. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.NOTE.COM 207.106.91.62 NS2.GRANITECANYON.COM 208.146.254.90 NS1.GRANITECANYON.COM 199.239.20.4 NS.SENATOR.ORG 199.239.20.20 Hehehe, here is some goodies for us. :-) Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Emil Schult news Date: 14 Jun 1999 02:06:58 +0000 From http://express.de/ddorf/ddorf05.html: Partyschiff ging vor Anker Eine schwimmende Attraktion hat an der Rheinterrasse festgemacht. Mit einem sogenannten "Dive-in" (zu deutsch etwa "Abtauch-Party") steuerte Event-Kapitaen Carsten Friedrich auf seinem Vergnuegungsschiff "MS Treibgut" zum ersten Mal Spasskurs in lokalen Gewaessern. "Wir werden diese Veranstaltung kuenftig jeden Freitag wiederholen", kuendigte er an. Nicht nur das. Das Boot ist auch Kultur-Dampfer. Heute abend hat der Duesseldorfer Kuenstler Emil Schult an Bord ein Heimspiel. Ab 19 Uhr praesentiert der Meisterschueler von Gerhard Richter und Joseph Beuys, der auch schon mit den Elektronik-Rockern Kraftwerk zusammenarbeitete, seine Werke. Abstract: Emil Schult presents some of his works today, 7:00 p. m. at the "MS Treibgut", Rheinterasse, Duesseldorf. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. D." Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk's server information Date: 13 Jun 1999 17:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Good work Priscila. Congrats! === Roger. rd411@yahoo.com Regor@webtv.net _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Knight Subject: Re: (kw) Concentrations (Michigan!) Date: 13 Jun 1999 22:08:35 -0400 >I am curious as to where Kraftwerk fans are concentrated in the U.S. Since >the fan base is either not as strong or just more scattered than overseas, >I occasionally wonder if I'm one of only a few. > >I have noticed a couple of fellow Michiganders on the list. > >To those of you living in the U.S., where are you, and what kind of support >for Kraftwerk have you encountered there? > . . \_ +\_ + o_-/ . O > . \-_o -=/- . . >. . \=// . >---------\_______ ||O ___.______ >/* Erik Eid */ \____||L/\_____/ >/* eeid@wwnet.net */_______________________ > Ok, I'm from New Baltimore Michigan ( About 30 or so miles from Detroit). Due to the fact that I run a Wire EDM machine I RARELY get to go out to clubs (Plus my wife has always critizied my taste in music....) I almost missed out on the concer in Detroit because of work, So I went to the concert, came back to work at 12:30 am est & Werked 16 Hours that day..... Man I tell you! I'm Devoted!!! and the idea that they only have come to the USA 2 times in what, 30 years? I would not miss this Chance!!!! Eric Knight AKA= ericknig@sprynet.com Kraftwerk...... A way of life ! Home page:http://home.sprynet.com/~ericknig/kraftwerk.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mm@UDel.Edu (Mike Markowski) Subject: Re: (kw) Concentrations Date: 14 Jun 1999 09:09:18 -0400 On Jun 13, "Erik J. Eid" wrote: > > To those of you living in the U.S., where are you, and what kind of support > for Kraftwerk have you encountered there? I'm in Newark, Delaware, and have yet to meet anyone here who has even heard of Kraftwerk... Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Larry Marotta Subject: (kw) Other cover of The Model Date: 14 Jun 1999 07:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Der Automat: I must respectfully disagree with your message that El Aviador Dro Y Sus Obreros Especializados will present the FIRST cover version of KW's "The Model." In the late 80s, the Chicago band Big Black released a 7 inch with a cover version of the song. The single even showed the band in faux Man Machine garb on the sleeve (hilarious!). The flip side of the single was a Cheap Trick cover and so the reverse side of the sleeve has Big Black dressed as -- you guessed it -- Cheap Trick. I think this single is out of print, but was on Touch and Go records. I'd recommend that other list members check out any of Big Black's other great releases ("Atomizer" is my favorite). What makes them noteworthy, for this list at least, is that they were one of the first punk rock bands to use a drum machine, not a live drummer. Larry _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) Concentrations Date: 14 Jun 1999 09:42:47 -0700 I live in Chandler, Arizona. Knowledge of the band here is close to none. The only one song that fellow engineers recognize from them, is "Autobahn". For the most part, everybody thinks they are an old "one-hit-wonder" German group. The only band we all agree upon is King Crimson (and of course Tony Levin bass' play). KW seems to sell more in second hand/import CD stores nearby ASU, than in other record shop. KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HigbyHogan@aol.com Subject: (kw) Other cover of The Model (Big Black) Date: 14 Jun 1999 13:13:23 EDT The cover of The Model by Big Black is also available on their final album, Songs About Fucking, easily available in many record shops. The band's leader, singer/guitarist Steve Albini, went on to form Shellac, another band of treble/bass extremes. He's also been a major producer-for-hire the last several years, managing to make all records he produces sound somewhat like Big Black/Shellac. Having just seen the new Austin Powers movie, has anyone noticed that the opening music for Mike Myers' "Sprockets" sketches on Saturday Night Live is Electric Cafe played at 45? SNL has been a weekly comedy variety show here in America for 30 years. In the early '90s there was a funny recurring sketch hosted by a grim, black-clad Teuton named Dieter, who would host Dieter's Dance Party on his show, Sprockets. While I'm at it, has anyone seen the Coen brothers' The Big Lebowski? There is a group of grim, black-clad Teuton nihilists in the film whose favorite band is AUTOBAHN; the album cover is a take-off of the Man-Machine cover. Elegance and decadence... Higby # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BosKen@aol.com Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #304 Date: 14 Jun 1999 01:29:52 EDT THANK YOU so much, Daniel & Priscila for answering my stupid questions. i am very greatful for your help. i have been listening to KW since the 70's when my friend played me the Autobahn album (while we were tripping on LSD) well it was the 70's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he freaked me out by saying that the rhythm of the beats would make you have a heart attack, that they would speed up your heart or make it have an irregular heart beat. i didn't believe him tho, and we just started laughing like idiots!!!!!!!!!!! but since then i have collected every KW album i could find. but i never knew anything about the group except that i liked their music. then i saw i blurb in "Entertainment Weekly" (5/28/99 issue) about the 100 greatest moments in rock. on page 73, it said 3/13/75 "autobahn" enters the u.s. charts. and they had a picture of the 4 of them as robots. they were ranked # 86 it said that "Autobahn peaked at No. 25 and was electronica's first incursion into the mainstream...... etc. and i thought i was the only one who knew them!!!!!!!!! then i did a search online and found all you guys!!!!!!!!!!! so now i know i'm not alone. and thanks for being patient with me (being a newbee to all this). i love this list!!!!!!! now if they would make some more music.... oh well, bye for now, kenny (from Boston) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Stagg Subject: (kw) EMI A+R guy Date: 14 Jun 1999 04:59:57 -0400 I spoke to a guy from EMI UK A&R yesterday, who told me there is still no= news on any new KW produkt. The only thing he could say was that KW are still apparently under contract with EMI, and that the last time they wer= e in contact was "a few months ago when they were getting arsey about some old 70's recordings being released by another label"... presumably the "Concert Classics"/"Autobahn Tour" releases. Staggman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Stagg Subject: (kw) Klang Box for sale Date: 14 Jun 1999 05:02:03 -0400 I have a copy of the 4x12" Klang Box for sale. There's no T-shirt, but it= 's in pristine condition and includes 2 original A4 info-sheets. If anyone's= interested please mail me privately. Staggman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Re: (kw) FTP Site? Date: 14 Jun 1999 10:45:06 -0400 -----Original Message----- >Could you post the url of you ftp site? Sure, it's ftp://247.7.251.51 Looks like I forgot to put it in the original message. There is also a file there explaining what the others are. (mostly non-KW) called ALLFILES.TXT. Enjoy! Huggy Bear # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MANINGLASS@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Concentrations Date: 14 Jun 1999 13:25:28 EDT Greetings from New Hampshire..... Here the exposure to Kraftwerk is mainly with the young kids....The DJs at raves have exposed Kraftwerk to a whole new generation....I've been a Werker since Autobahn was released....Had the privilege to see "the Boys" live in NYC at the Hammerstein in 1998....Quite the experience.... Question...why doesn't Kraftwerk issue all the bootlegs like Zappa did???????? All us Werkers who have none of the bootlegs would be in 7th heaven !!!!!! just another Werker, maninglass # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: RE: (kw) Concentrations Date: 14 Jun 1999 11:56:53 -0600 (MDT) The original message was directed at people in the U.S., but others seem to be jumping in too, so... I live in Canada. I move around a lot, but I've only met a handful of people who have even heard of KW. I know a fella in Toronto who saw KW live on their big world tour, and I've met a few record store salesmen who like KW. Also, the first time I ever heard KW was when it was playing on a demo stereo in a Radio Shack here in Calgary. Fortunately I've managed to brainwash a few of my friends here into appreciating KW and related music. :) /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * Microsoft software: It may bloated, but at least it's slow. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk's server information Date: 14 Jun 1999 19:59:37 +0100 Yes, congrats, Please read the archives, for more information on this highly-discussed- in-the-past 'exclusive' ;-) Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) Concentrations Date: 14 Jun 1999 17:58:54 +0000 >To those of you living in the U.S., where are you, and what kind of support >for Kraftwerk have you encountered there? i live in Toledo, OHIO USA. i lived in former USSR, Austria, and Italy before coming here. before joining the list the only other people in my one-horse-burg who i knew were into Kraftwerk were my close friends. i got into KW in 1990. the first KW album we ever heard was computer world. but we all heard it separetly, from different sources. then one day one of us mentioned KW, and the rest of us knew exactly what it was. support is limited, but not copletely nonexistant, however one could not survive just on Kraftwerk in this town, gotta have other hobbies/interestes. my other love is Star Trek. b.s. has anyone on this list ever heard of DJ Boomer aka Omegaman? or DJ HoJo aka Timexkid? just wondering. lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Pitt" Subject: (kw) Tour De Kraft update Date: 14 Jun 1999 23:57:23 +0100 Hi, New MP3's from the 1981 tour (Computers in Love bootleg). Trans-Europe Express / Metal On Metal Mini-Calculateur The Cover version is 'Trans-Europe Express' bought to you by 'Trans Mission'. Mike. Kraftwerk 1981 live and Cover Versions. http://website.lineone.net/~mike.pitt/tdk.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) early kw on cd in Italy Date: 15 Jun 1999 02:50:40 +0200 for those interested, I have spotted in some record shops of Rome Tone Float, Kraftwerk (only the first, I suppose) and R&F on cd, label Germanofon. the price is 32.000 italian liras, that is more or less 16 euro, 32 DM, 18 US$. I think I'll buy R&F first. it seem that it was already discussed, anyway, how about sound quality? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: William Dobiesz Subject: FW: (kw) Other cover of The Model Date: 14 Jun 1999 15:20:56 -0400 >Machine garb on the sleeve (hilarious!). The flip side of the single >was a Cheap Trick cover and so the reverse side of the sleeve has Big >Black dressed as -- you guessed it -- Cheap Trick. Just out of curiousity, what Cheap Trick tune did they cover? Huggy Bear (A Curious Bear) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) early kw on cd in Italy Date: 14 Jun 1999 22:30:12 EDT those are great albums, dude Is Tone Float on Germanofon? Mine isn't. The sound quality for the Germanofon releases is really good. Ralf & Florian is a good choice, but Kraftwerk is just as good. If your Tone Float is Germanofon, I might like some information on it. Sam Paterson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL Subject: Re: (kw) Other cover of The Model Date: 14 Jun 1999 20:41:00 -0700 There is another and earlier one my dear Kraftwerk fans! I feel this must be THE FIRST cover version of "The Model". The song "The Model" was covered on the Snakefinger (1949-1987) album that is titled "Chewing Hides the Sound" which was released in 1979. I think it is an EXCELLENT cover too! I believe it is obtainable as a CD from East Side Digital http://www.noside.com/esd/ For those who are unfamiliar with "Snakefinger" the music is a unique treat. Anyone who is familiar with the reclusive San Francisco based "band" The Residents will surely know Snakefinger as he was a long time collaborator with them before his untimely and early shuffling off from this mortal coil. Snakefiinger also performed with them on many their albums. For more information go to: http://www.residents.com/collab/snake-disc.html#chewing For information on the fabulous RESIDENTS go to: http://www.residents.com Larry Marotta wrote: > Der Automat: > > I must respectfully disagree with your message that El Aviador Dro Y > Sus Obreros Especializados will present the FIRST cover version of KW's > "The Model." > > In the late 80s, the Chicago band Big Black released a 7 inch with a > cover version of the song. The single even showed the band in faux Man > Machine garb on the sleeve (hilarious!). The flip side of the single > was a Cheap Trick cover and so the reverse side of the sleeve has Big > Black dressed as -- you guessed it -- Cheap Trick. > > I think this single is out of print, but was on Touch and Go records. > I'd recommend that other list members check out any of Big Black's > other great releases ("Atomizer" is my favorite). What makes them > noteworthy, for this list at least, is that they were one of the first > punk rock bands to use a drum machine, not a live drummer. > > Larry > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "depeche" <_depeche_@email.msn.com> Subject: (kw) Concert Classics Date: 14 Jun 1999 22:42:47 -0700 What is the CORRECTED track listing and venue? I remember some discussion about this at the time of release, but.... Andrew _depeche_@msn.com www.thegrid.net/jtworld/depeche/ ICQ# 11490225 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "depeche" <_depeche_@email.msn.com> Subject: (kw) Warfield boot Date: 14 Jun 1999 22:44:57 -0700 I am looking to trade for a copy of this show: THE WARFIELD THEATER SOUNDBOARD Live at Warfield Theater San Francisco,June.7.1998 I was there and SAW the recorded at the mixing desk, and DROOLED! I wished my arms were longer!! Andrew _depeche_@msn.com www.thegrid.net/jtworld/depeche/ ICQ# 11490225 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) this & that Date: 15 Jun 1999 14:09:36 +0100 BILL wrote: >There is another and earlier one my dear Kraftwerk fans! I feel this must >be THE >FIRST cover version of "The Model". The song "The Model" was covered on the >Snakefinger (1949-1987) album that is titled >"Chewing Hides the Sound" which was released in 1979. I think it is an >EXCELLENT >cover too! Yes, it's my favourite Kraftwerk cover version, by far. It's faithful to the spirit of the original whilst staying true to Snakefinger's usual style. A great, late guitarist! HigbyHogan@aol.com wrote: > While I'm at it, has anyone seen the Coen brothers' The Big Lebowski? >There is a group of grim, black-clad Teuton nihilists in the film whose >favorite band is AUTOBAHN; the album cover is a take-off of the Man-Machine >cover. Yeah, this has actually come up a few times (I really will update that FAQ this summer!), but I only saw the film last weekend. (Weren't the nihilists meant to _be_ the former 'Autobahn' members? Maybe not, I found the film rather dull in a few places and my attention wandered!). Wolfhardt.Wess@t-online.de wrote: >Can anybody mail the track list or even further details of the >"Arbeiten:Works:Oevres"-CD to me ? Have a look at my links page (http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/links.html). There a couple of bootleg sites listed, and ISTR seing one of them list this album (please check yourself, as I am currently unable to do so). BosKen@aol.com wrote: >can someone tell me who the members of Kraftwerk are as they appear on the >cover of Trans-Europe Express. from the left side to the right. http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/faq/members.html#who Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred_Harding@idx.com Subject: (kw) koncentrations Date: 15 Jun 1999 09:29:31 -0400 I'm from Boston. Far as I can tell, I'm the ONLY ONE here who likes Kraftwerk. Actually, that's not true. I'm sure someone else does, but, darned if I know who! Since the boys didn't play "my town" last year, there's just no telling - sadly. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred_Harding@idx.com Subject: (kw) other cover of the model Date: 15 Jun 1999 09:39:01 -0400 Q From Huggy: Just out of curiousity, what Cheap Trick tune did they cover? A: From Me: Big Black covered Cheap Trick's "He's A Whore" - from their first album. Great tune. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: (kw) The reason for four..... Date: 15 Jun 1999 09:41:51 EDT Here is something I have been thinking about...and wonder if any of you have any opinions....... What is the reason for R and F to still have 2 other members? In this day and age of technology...and when there are several duos and even single (solo) groups, do Ralf and Florian feel they need to have four members because:1. Presentation wise there have always been 4 and it looks good on stage? 2. They are behind in their knowledge of technology and need acouple of younger, more hip guys to help them out? 3. Or, is it 4 are necessary to do all that needs to be done? Just curious.... When Karl and Wolfgang left, would it not have been possible to cont as a duo----as they had been way back when? Alan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Speaking of covers Date: 15 Jun 1999 08:20:50 -0700 Has anyone heard Komputer's "Oh Synthesizer"? Is that a rip off, a cover, a tribute or what? That song sounds just like "Neon Lights" only with different lyrics... Fricking amazing! The nerve of those guys! KW4EVER! Enrique Now listening: "Space Groove" by Projekct Two # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Larry Marotta Subject: (kw) Re: why four members in KW Date: 15 Jun 1999 08:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Ultravox: My guess is that Ralf and Florian seem to always be chasing the ultimate robot pop song. As such, I think you have to have four members in the classic pop outfit (Beatles, Who, etc.). A trio connotes too much instrumental excess (Rush, Cream, etc.), while a duo is much more concerned about art for art's sake. It should be noted that even though Ralf and Florian remain some of rock's more mysterious figures, their albums usually play up a public view of KW as a quartet (TEE, and Man Machine covers, e.g.). Compare this to groups like Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd whose album packaging avoids pictures of the group for the most part, playing up the "serious music" aspect of their work. No, I think the pop quartet idea is at the creative center of Kraftwerk's image. If not, Ralf and Florian would probably be content to sit in Kling Klang all day chruning out product. Larry > > --- Ultravox5@aol.com wrote: > > > > Here is something I have been thinking about...and > > wonder if any of you have > > any opinions....... > > What is the reason for R and F to still have 2 other > > members? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: (kw) Re: 'Concert Classics' tracklisting Date: 15 Jun 1999 11:35:56 For whoever asked about the correct tracklisting for the Concert Classics CD: 1. Kometenmelodie 2. Autobahn 3. Klingklang 4. Tanzmusik -- nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Dean Subject: (kw) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:53:08 GMT Date: 15 Jun 1999 11:03:49 -0600 what's the difference between the Robots and Robotronik? It it just like 'TDF and TDF 2e Etappe' or 'Telephone Call and House Phone'? Matt www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palace/8922/kwlangu.htm ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: A girl from venus Subject: Re: (kw) Other cover of The Model Date: 15 Jun 1999 00:58:19 EDT Rammstein covered The Model recently. If someone wants it I have the mp3. Amelie XxX ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anders Wilhelm Subject: (kw) 9th June 2000 Date: 24 May 1999 14:18:50 +0200 Has anyone (Klaus?) got any more info on the announced concert? "Live zu erleben ist Kraftwerk in einem Konzert auf der Weltausstellung am 9. Juni 2000 in der Arena. " /aw # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Raistrick Subject: (kw) the model Date: 15 Jun 1999 14:35:01 +0100 snakefinger's version is wolfgang flur's favourite cover of the song. khris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) The reason for four..... Date: 15 Jun 1999 16:11:07 +0100 At 9:41 am -0400 15/6/99, Ultravox5@aol.com wrote: >What is the reason for R and F to still have 2 other members? I suspect it's similar to that other secretive band, The Residents. It appears that after a split they still presented themselves as a gang of four, whatever the truth may be with that group. >When Karl and Wolfgang left, would it not have been possible to cont as a >duo----as they had been way back when? But since those early days, Ralf & Florian seem to have bought into the "Man-Machine" myth in a big way. How would they portray a "machine" with fewer human components? Not only would they have to reinvent the concept, they would also be more vulnerable to the gaze of the audience and the critics. A duo consists of two individuals, whereas a nominal "band" is seen much more as a unit. Just my speculations... KB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: Re: (kw) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:53:08 GMT Date: 15 Jun 1999 13:45:17 Matthew Dean wrote: >what's the difference between the Robots and Robotronik? It it just >like 'TDF and TDF 2e Etappe' or 'Telephone Call and House Phone'? The same basic principle applies. "Robotronik" is simply a remix of "The Robots" as it appeared on 1991's "The Mix." The actual LP version of "The Robots" clocks in at 8:56, whereas the "Robotronik" mix runs 4:51 with significant differences in reverb effects, bassline, and mixing in general. (Just as an aside, the single edit of "The Robots" runs 3:43 and is a mix which remains truer to the LP version than "Robotronik.") What's interesting to note about "Robotronik" is that KW featured it in all their live concerts since 1990 as an additional track which follows "The Robots." "Robotronik" is the song which plays while the actual robots on-stage are "dancing." nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SRRecords@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) The reason for four..... Date: 15 Jun 1999 13:51:29 EDT I suspect that kraftwerk could continue with ralf sitting in his bedroom with a computer and microphone. there are 4 members mainly for image, I presume. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Other cover of The Model Date: 15 Jun 1999 15:02:25 EDT Rammstein's version of "Das Modell" is funny. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) The reason for four..... Date: 15 Jun 1999 15:11:43 EDT I wish that Kraftwerk would go back to being a duo! Kraftwerk 2 and Ralf & Florian are great albums! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Stagno Subject: Re: (kw) Concentrations Date: 15 Jun 1999 18:57:35 -0600 I am a Chicagoan and absolutely loved their show here last June. They didn't fill the venue but those who showed were hardcore fans. While there isn't a huge following, it is a loyal following that can't wait another 15 years for the next show. While America has succumbed to "alternative" rock, there still is a smattering of us who'll go to see the Neubauten's, Magma's and of course, Kraftwerk when in town. Chicago is becoming very recognizable in the music scene in recent years again and there is no better place to see a show. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL Subject: Re: (kw) this & that Date: 15 Jun 1999 17:12:29 -0700 Also probably mentioned before regarding The Big Lebowski... a point of trivia. That being that the actor playing one of the "nihilists" is Flea from the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Kevin Busby wrote: > BILL wrote: > > >There is another and earlier one my dear Kraftwerk fans! I feel this must > >be THE > >FIRST cover version of "The Model". The song "The Model" was covered on the > >Snakefinger (1949-1987) album that is titled > >"Chewing Hides the Sound" which was released in 1979. I think it is an > >EXCELLENT > >cover too! > > Yes, it's my favourite Kraftwerk cover version, by far. It's faithful to > the spirit of the original whilst staying true to Snakefinger's usual > style. A great, late guitarist! > > HigbyHogan@aol.com wrote: > > > While I'm at it, has anyone seen the Coen brothers' The Big Lebowski? > >There is a group of grim, black-clad Teuton nihilists in the film whose > >favorite band is AUTOBAHN; the album cover is a take-off of the Man-Machine > >cover. > > Yeah, this has actually come up a few times (I really will update that FAQ > this summer!), but I only saw the film last weekend. (Weren't the nihilists > meant to _be_ the former 'Autobahn' members? Maybe not, I found the film > rather dull in a few places and my attention wandered!). > > Wolfhardt.Wess@t-online.de wrote: > > >Can anybody mail the track list or even further details of the > >"Arbeiten:Works:Oevres"-CD to me ? > > Have a look at my links page > (http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/links.html). There a couple of > bootleg sites listed, and ISTR seing one of them list this album (please > check yourself, as I am currently unable to do so). > > BosKen@aol.com wrote: > > >can someone tell me who the members of Kraftwerk are as they appear on the > >cover of Trans-Europe Express. from the left side to the right. > > http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/faq/members.html#who > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EJRSemiGod@aol.com Subject: Re: FW: (kw) Other cover of The Model Date: 15 Jun 1999 23:44:17 EDT In a message dated 6/14/99 8:22:05 PM Central Daylight Time, huggy_bear@ameritech.net writes: << Just out of curiousity, what Cheap Trick tune did they cover? >> "he's a whore"... The whole ordeal is pretty funny - including the song. When I get ambition, I'll mp3 the whole batch, if anyone's interested in hearing the two covers. later drake (ever-lurker) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EJRSemiGod@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Speaking of covers Date: 16 Jun 1999 00:02:23 EDT In a message dated 6/15/99 10:25:30 AM Central Daylight Time, ENRIQUEC@heraeusmtd.com writes: << Has anyone heard Komputer's "Oh Synthesizer"? Is that a rip off, a cover, a tribute or what? That song sounds just like "Neon Lights" only with different lyrics... Fricking amazing! The nerve of those guys! >> Komputer Wars! I think Komputer is delightful. I think of them as the temporary Kraftwerk, at least as far as what KW's new album might have sounded like, had they released it in the early/mid '90s.. I have the komputer EP, and the valentina EP.. both have surprisingly KW-almost-copyright-infringement-songs... "We are Komputer" uses the "We are the robots" riff... Damn.. I need to make some MP3s... later drake # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EJRSemiGod@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) this & that Date: 16 Jun 1999 00:11:11 EDT In a message dated 6/15/99 7:11:06 PM Central Daylight Time, bgillam@pacbell.net writes: << Also probably mentioned before regarding The Big Lebowski... a point of trivia. That being that the actor playing one of the "nihilists" is Flea from the Red Hot Chili Peppers. >> I don't remember Flea - but I do remember that the Chemical brothers were two of the Nihlists as well... hmn.. later drake # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tg97 Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk jingle for EXPO 2000 Date: 16 Jun 1999 01:18:42 -0300 I put the six different Kraftwerk versions for EXPO 2000 jingle at my page, in separated MP3 files (75KB each). So you can download them fast and in which languages you want. http://members.xoom.com/kraftworld/ peace Nicolau # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lrk@ik2000.se Subject: (kw) When money is an object... Date: 15 Jun 1999 22:23:00 +0000 Anyone knows where I can find a site showing how much different KW recordings are worth (and thus what a fair price to pay for them is)? Thanks in advance! ///\/\arcus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk's server information Date: 16 Jun 1999 14:52:34 +0200 On Sun, 13 Jun 1999 20:45:41 -0300, Priscila Morsoletto wrote: > >Hello all, > >I was looking around that Kraftwerk server then I find this information: > >Registrant: >Klingklang(R) Studio c/o Andreas Kuckartz (KRAFTWERK2-DOM) I wrote to this guy (Andreas Kuckartz) asking if he knows Ralf & Florian and which connection does he have with KW. He simply replied: "Sorry, I can not help you". :-))) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Adam Beslove" Subject: Re: (kw) Concentrations Date: 16 Jun 1999 06:40:25 -0700 Here in Northern Virginia/DC Metro I rarely run into another Kraftwerk fan. Anyone out there? --Adam HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Adam Beslove" Subject: (kw) My Solution Date: 16 Jun 1999 07:44:09 -0700 I downloaded the jingle last night and set it on autorepeat on WinAmp for about 10 mintues (20 repetitions). It grew on me. It's fun. Like "audio wallpaper". It's _very_ minimalistic and not too hard not to pay too much attention too. Nevertheless, it probably wasn't a very great creative stretch for them to write and record. It seems to me that R&F have painted themselves into a corner creatively/careerwise, and this might account for the lack of a new album. Also, they've slain their dragon. They're probably in the "old-fart" phase of their lives and don't need to prove anything any more and would have trouble doing it without a fire under their asses, which are probably proudly resting on their laurels. Could it be fear of failure? Could it just be lack of a powerful enough motivation? Should we just band together as their fanbase and commmission the new album ourselves like the folks in Hannover commissioned their jingle? Short of writing them a check, here is a possible solution to their creative doldrum: I would like to see them do something acoustic. No, I'm not joking. They are classicly trained and certainly up to it technically. It could also be the "whack in the side of the head" that they need, the new challenge that could give them reason and meaning. God, think of it, "Kraftwerk Unplugged." By redefining the machine and it's integration with man, they could reclaim their muse. What is a machine? Does it have to be digital or can it be an analog machine? What is a man? When does one become the other? How do they meld? --Adam Beslove HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) this & that Date: 16 Jun 1999 16:51:32 +0200 Yes, they were. /Joakim -----Original Message----- Weren't the nihilists meant to _be_ the former 'Autobahn' members? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rochow@pixelmagic.com Subject: Re:RE: (kw) this & that Date: 16 Jun 1999 11:56:47 -0400 >Yes, they were. >-----Original Message----- >Weren't the nihilists meant to _be_ the former 'Autobahn' members? Somone mentioned their album cover being similar to the Man Machine cover; the three were dressed that way, but standing side-by-side, the middle one facing the camera and the other two turned to the outside a little, with a closeup of a bed of nails as the background, which was also the title ("Nagelbett"). "They had one hit in the 70s." The scene where it's shown would have lent itself to playing the "album" for a short while, probably best using the TEE drum solo sequence as audio, but it wasn't done for some reason. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rochow@pixelmagic.com Subject: Re[2]: (kw) Kraftwerk's server information Date: 16 Jun 1999 12:02:17 -0400 >>Registrant: >>Klingklang(R) Studio c/o Andreas Kuckartz (KRAFTWERK2-DOM) > >I wrote to this guy (Andreas Kuckartz) asking if he knows Ralf & Florian >and which connection does he have with KW. > >He simply replied: "Sorry, I can not help you". I wrote to him a few years ago, and asked whether he worked for them in general (studio technician or something), and he replied that he just does web domains/pages under contract for people; hence his contact with KW is pretty much limited to what's visible on their site. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Re: why four members in KW Date: 16 Jun 1999 14:23:33 EDT In a message dated 15/06/99 16:31:49 GMT Daylight Time, yrral31@yahoo.com writes: << If not, Ralf and Florian would probably be content to sit in Kling Klang all day chruning out product. >> are you being serious ? they've not churned out anything since 1991. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Larry Marotta Subject: Re: (kw) Re: why four members in KW Date: 16 Jun 1999 12:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Merseycham: Maybe a poor choice of words! I think I meant "working on," not "churning out!" From what I have read about KW in the small amount of interviews available, Ralf and Florian have never stopped working in the studio. I guess what I meant to say is that they would probably be content to be monkish studio-heads a la Steely Dan, if they were not also concerned with their public perception as a pop group. Larry --- MERSEYCHAM@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 15/06/99 16:31:49 GMT Daylight > Time, yrral31@yahoo.com > writes: > > << If not, Ralf and Florian would probably be > content > to sit in Kling Klang all day chruning out product. > >> > > are you being serious ? they've not churned out > anything since 1991. > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rochow@pixelmagic.com Subject: Re:(kw) My Solution Date: 16 Jun 1999 17:20:03 -0400 >Short of writing them a check, here is a possible solution to their >creative doldrum: I would like to see them do something acoustic. No, >I'm not joking. They are classicly trained and certainly up to it >technically. It could also be the "whack in the side of the head" that >they need, the new challenge that could give them reason and meaning. >God, think of it, "Kraftwerk Unplugged." While they do play a mean xylophone (the '75 live versions of Kometenmelodie 1/2 and Tanzmusik are really nice, and particularly Tanzmusik is better than the album version), I think it just wouldn't be the same without electronic bassline/2nd-lead-melody/percussion. As far as back-to-basics goes, a Mix..2 with true-to-original-form (i.e. like, on The Mix, Musik non stop and TEE and even Autobahn, rather than like Robots/C-Love/Taschenrechner, all with the same cheap rhythm) replays of the melodic (i.e. not Atem or Tongebirge) early pieces would be something nearly-entirely-new where "being ahead of" mainstream techno rubbish is no longer an issue - i.e. a revisitation of avantgarde from the past, rather than a likely failing attempt to get yet even further ahead of everyone else - unless of course there's a new topic that can be elegantly translated into music not heard before or after, like TEE ended up being. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Adam Beslove" Subject: (kw) Re: Kraftwerk Unplugged Date: 17 Jun 1999 11:38:30 -0700 [Adam again... I don't want to leave any of the younger fans out in the cold on this thread. If you guys and gals haven't listened to Tone Float, KW1, KW2, and especially Ralf & Florain, please download these .MP3's ASAP and find out what you're missing and what we're talking about. We're not just geezing. [For all non-English-as-a-first-language fans, "geezing" is slang for talking nostalgically about the past. It can also jokingly refer to the early onset of Alzheimer's disease. ;) ]] >While they do play a mean xylophone (the '75 live versions of >Kometenmelodie 1/2 and Tanzmusik are really nice, and particularly >Tanzmusik is better than the album version), I think it just wouldn't >be the same without electronic bassline/2nd-lead-melody/percussion. Don't forget the flute, guitar, etc.. on the early albums. Ok. How about if they limit themselves to analog synthisizers and tape loops. Nothing fancy or digital. Look what Eno did with his Ambient series. Just a system of feedback tape loops. This is an intelectual exercise. They can choose the specifics themselves within similar guidelines. >As far as back-to-basics goes, a Mix..2 with true-to-original-form >(i.e. like, on The Mix, Musik non stop and TEE and even Autobahn, >rather than like Robots/C-Love/Taschenrechner, all with the same >cheap rhythm)  This is it. You got the essence of it below. vvvvvvvvvvv >replays of the melodic (i.e. not Atem or Tongebirge) >early pieces would be something nearly-entirely-new where Ralf? Florain? Are you listening? >"being ahead of" mainstream techno rubbish is no longer an issue - >i.e. a revisitation of avantgarde from the past, rather than a >likely failing attempt to get yet even further ahead of everyone >else - unless of course there's a new topic that can be >elegantly translated into music not heard before or after, like >TEE ended up being. Kraftwerk hit the mother lode and there's still plenty of gold to be mined. --Adam HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Re: Kraftwerk Unplugged Date: 17 Jun 1999 13:38:42 -0700 -Adam wrote- >Kraftwerk hit the mother lode and there's still plenty of gold to be mined. I couldn't agree with you more on that one; but... going unplugged? I don't think so... their "hippie" era is long gone... unless... they wanna bring some "extra-kick-ass-help" to the treat, like Tony Levin, Steve Gadd, William Orbit, Trent Reznor, David Bowie or even Stevie Ray Vaughan, Elvis, and Jimi Hendrix (they're not dead) just keep A. Parsons, M. Oldfield and JMJarre in the dougout, unless they are interested in heading downtown prior to the event for a little warm up. KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Adam Beslove" Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Kraftwerk Unplugged Date: 17 Jun 1999 14:03:03 -0700 Enrique Correa wrote: >>Kraftwerk hit the mother lode and there's still plenty of gold to be mined. >I couldn't agree with you more on that one; but... going unplugged? I don't >think so... their "hippie" era is long gone... unless... they wanna bring >some "extra-kick-ass-help" to the treat, like Tony Levin, Steve Gadd, >William Orbit, Trent Reznor, David Bowie or even Stevie Ray Vaughan, Elvis, >and Jimi Hendrix (they're not dead) just keep A. Parsons, M. Oldfield and >JMJarre in the dougout, unless they are interested in heading downtown prior >to the event for a little warm up. >KW4EVER! >Enrique Hendrix and S.R. Vaughn would be killer collaborators with Ralf & Florain! Are you thinking of the old-fat-stoned Elvis or the Young-Elvis? What about Ray Charles (still kicking!) for some double-plus soul or Ella Fitzgerald (RIP) to scat sing over the top of Autobahn? But seriously, the boys from Devo are still around and working. They are a natural (and still alive) option for collaboration. Not that they would ever have to physically meet. Nobody sang face to face with Sinatra on his last big collaboration. Most of his fellow artists never even met him, probably never even spoke with him, instead recording at studios all over the planet. That would be a reclusive artist's dream. --Adam HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rochow@pixelmagic.com Subject: (kw) collaboration? Date: 17 Jun 1999 17:19:02 -0400 Yesterday, I heard a short report on NPR (US public radio network) about a band called Underworld, whose pretty average techno-with- mumbled-lyrics was said to be somehow different from all the other bands that sound like them, and that 'they brought techno to the mainstream' ...and of course the narrator mentions that they collaborated with KW, "the seminal German band that founded techno music in the 70s." - can't argue with that last bit, but isn't a claim of 'collaboration' highly unlikely to be true? (Could the nowadays obligatory "and of course we were influenced by KW" statement have been misread by the reporter?) -gbr # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phaethon0@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Unplugged Date: 17 Jun 1999 18:56:03 EDT > unless... they wanna bring some "extra-kick-ass-help" to the treat, like Tony >Levin, Steve Gadd, William Orbit, Trent Reznor, David Bowie or even Stevie Ray >Vaughan, Elvis, and Jimi Hendrix (they're not dead) speaking of Trent Reznor, the issue of Rolling Stone hitting newstands tomorrow has an exclusive article on NIN's new CD due out in September. one song is described as having "various keyboard and guitar effects: glacial synth howls; Kraftwerk-ian bleeps; greasy slide guitar; wah-wah; what Reznor gleefully calls Jesus and Mary Chain distortion." Although both KW and NIN both enjoy taking longer than half-decade breaks between LPs, I don't think I see electro minimalism in Reznor's future. One song has "what sounds like a big, university-strength marching band"- completely synthesized. -ericg- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Dangermond" Subject: (kw) Warfield Concert mp3s posted on alt.binaries.sounds.mp3 Date: 17 Jun 1999 19:20:09 -0400 Someone is posting the entire Kraftwerk concert played at the warfield theater in San Francisco, June 7, 1998, on the newsgroup alt.binaries.sounds.mp3. I went to this concert. There are missing parts of the mp3s on my server, so I can't get all the songs! Maybe some kind soul can grab them and put them on their website. Or I can see about getting some space to post them if I can get some help getting the entire song list. Can someone tell me how else I can get them? Thanks! Michael Dangermond I read the digest, so email me if you know where I can get these missing mp3s. ------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Speaking of NIN Date: 17 Jun 1999 16:41:53 -0700 Trent Reznor says he's come up with a new sound: "Tom Waits on a bayou filtered through a funk blender and slowed down." Also scheduled to appear on the CD are former King Crimson guitarist Adrian Belew, who lent a hand on The Downward Spiral; Helmet guitarist Page Hamilton; Ministry drummer Bill Rieflin; former Chic/Power Station drummer Tony Thompson; keyboardist Mike Garson, who has played with David Bowie and the Smashing Pumpkins; and engineer Steve Albini (Page and Plant, Nirvana), who has assisted in an undisclosed capacity. Producer Alan Moulder (Smashing Pumpkins, Elastica, Depeche Mode, Eno, Jarre, Jesus and Mary Chain) has worked "very closely" with Reznor on the album, according to NIN spokesperson Sioux Zimmerman.... I didn't find either Ralf or Florian on the album credits :-( KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Kraftwerk Unplugged Date: 18 Jun 1999 00:06:35 EDT If Ralf & Florian were to do an unplugged, I think they would seriously need to get back with Michael Rother. Afterward, they could go and kick Klaus Dinger's ass for keeping the Neu! albums from the public. But as long as Kraftwerk are not going to release anything new, I would really like to hear the thirty-minute session that Florian, Michael, and Klaus did in Konrad Plank's studio for a pontential Kraftwerk 2. I'm serious. I'd really like to see that released. Sam Paterson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Henderson" Subject: (kw) Tone Float Date: 17 Jun 1999 22:59:31 -0600 Does anyone know where I can hear a sample or two from "Tone Float"? I love "Ralf & Florian", KW1 and KW2, but I'm not sure about the "sound" and "feel" of Tone Float. Are they similar? Thanks, Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Priscila Morsoletto" Subject: (kw) Off topic: FMD Fusion Machine/Hipnose Date: 18 Jun 1999 02:03:50 -0300 Hi all, My friend Michel Fauza is doing some really great works with music, and I'm here is the URLs where you'll find his musics: http://www.mp3.com/artists/25/fmd_fusion_machine.html FMD Fusion Machine is his band. Two nice songs are Automatik 2 (very Kraftwerk-like one) and Infinite Oceans of Mars. http://www.mp3.com/artists/27/hypnosis.html "Hipnose" (hypnosis) is his solo work. Great trance musics. :-) Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Tone Float Date: 18 Jun 1999 01:22:18 EDT There is a clip of "Milk Rock" at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/8880/m70.html Tone Float is different from the other early Kraftwerk. I do not like some of it as much, but it is a very essential recording, especially since the anonymous bootleg contains a live track from 1971. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Kraftwerk Unplugged Date: 18 Jun 1999 00:34:08 +0000 ...but seriously. you wanna talk about artists who really revolutionized electronic music for ever and ever, and stood by their work, no matter the sales of albums, or pressure from record companies, or critics (and are stil alive). and have been around for at least 25 years to have a generation of new artists be influenced by them, and immitate their work. i can think of only a few, and all of them have never been anywhere near the same bill, concert, or venue. i'd like to see Wendy Carlos, Isao Tomita, and of course Kraftwerk share the bill, or maybe even the stage. i know there are many and many other greats like Eno, Jarre, Can, etc. but we all have our own personal Techno Pop Hall of Fame, and those are my top three inductees. maybe not even a concert, but a seminar, a lecture, i don't care what, as long as they do something. although they all have something in common: lack of new material in more than ten years, with a few minor exceptions (like the EXPO 2000 jingle). lenny g At 01:38 PM 6/17/99 -0700, you wrote: >I couldn't agree with you more on that one; but... going unplugged? I don't >think so... their "hippie" era is long gone... unless... they wanna bring >some "extra-kick-ass-help" to the treat, like Tony Levin, Steve Gadd, >William Orbit, Trent Reznor, David Bowie or even Stevie Ray Vaughan, Elvis, >and Jimi Hendrix (they're not dead) just keep A. Parsons, M. Oldfield and >JMJarre in the dougout, unless they are interested in heading downtown prior >to the event for a little warm up. >KW4EVER! >Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "d..." Subject: (kw) KW fan in europe in september Date: 18 Jun 1999 03:30:12 -0500 hello, i will be in europe (paris, brussels, amsterdam, berlin, prague, milan, rome, and maybe england (london, birmingham, manchester and liverpool) for the month of september and i was hoping that some kraftwerk fans would like to meet up to chat and maybe see some sights and shop for kraftwerk records. i will be on my honeymoon and my wife and i would love to get an insiders perspective of the places we mentioned. also, if you have any information on cheap but nice accomodations and places to eat i would certainly appreciate the advice. regards, derek... peace, love and ambience. d... d@techno.ca www.clo.com/~orbital www.mp3.com/figital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ALR" Subject: (kw) Prozac and Karl Bartos Date: 18 Jun 1999 22:47:48 +1000 I have not seen this posted here yet so...... There was a documentary I taped from locale TV here called 'Prozac Diaries'. The premised of the (BBC?) documentary was 4 artists who were interviewed before and after they started taking prozac, and how it affected thier artisic talents. The artist that concerns us is Bernard Sumner from New Order and Electronic. There is a long interview with him during the writing of the lyrics for the last record 'Raise The Pressure'. And during a few of the rehearsal studio shots of B.Sumner singing the prozac inspired lyrics with the band, there are a few close ups of an unnamed but well known keyboard player. ADAM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Lopez Van dam Subject: Re: (kw) Other cover of The Model Date: 18 Jun 1999 12:58:15 +0000 (GMT) > I must respectfully disagree with your message that El Aviador Dro Y > Sus Obreros Especializados will present the FIRST cover version of KW's > "The Model." I also disagree with Der Automat; as I said in my first message to the list, here in Argentina was released a version last year. It was called "La Modelo", by Claudio "La Clota" Lanzetta, and it was so bad, that this man was profusely insulted at the Kraftwerk performance of last October at Buenos Aires. KILL THAT BASTARD! KW4EVER! Laura # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim L. Jones" Subject: Re: (kw) Speaking of NIN (gag) Date: 17 Jun 1999 22:08:57 -0400 Hello all, Not to sound like I'm player hatin or anything but mentioning NIN and Kraftwerk in the same sentence is well.. lets just say underwhelming.... I'd be HIGHLY shocked if R&F ever worked with that character... He's nothing special.... phuleeze..... Jim J. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 7:41 PM > > Trent Reznor says he's come up with a new sound: "Tom Waits on a bayou > filtered through a funk blender and slowed down." Also scheduled to appear > on the CD are former King Crimson guitarist Adrian Belew, who lent a hand on > The Downward Spiral; Helmet guitarist Page Hamilton; Ministry drummer Bill > Rieflin; former Chic/Power Station drummer Tony Thompson; keyboardist Mike > Garson, who has played with David Bowie and the Smashing Pumpkins; and > engineer Steve Albini (Page and Plant, Nirvana) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Holton Subject: (kw) RE: kraftwerk-digest V2 #306 Date: 18 Jun 1999 09:12:36 +0100 > The same basic principle applies. "Robotronik" is simply >a remix of "The Robots" as it appeared on 1991's "The Mix." >The actual LP version of "The Robots" clocks in at 8:56, whereas >the "Robotronik" mix runs 4:51 with significant differences in >reverb effects, bassline, and mixing in general. (Just as an aside, >the single edit of "The Robots" runs 3:43 and is a mix which remains >truer to the LP version than "Robotronik.") > What's interesting to note about "Robotronik" is that KW >featured it in all their live concerts since 1990 as an additional >track which follows "The Robots." "Robotronik" is the song which >plays while the actual robots on-stage are "dancing." Was listening to Robotronik the other night it is one of my five fave KW tracks. I virtually wrote an essay on the song as was listening to it (pissed).Still lying around my bedroom somewhere - must dig it out. When I first heard it it blew me away and got me very wet indeed for the MIX. If that is how they are revamping their material the MIX is going to be amazing (who needs new material?) As it turned out the only radical changes (IMHO) were Robots and Radioactivity (another single by chance -with Orbit remix) Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "nextcube" Subject: (kw) Trading Kraftwerk LIVE and Remix CDRs Date: 18 Jun 1999 13:52:56 -0500 I can trade a copy of people a copy of the 2CD Warfield concert, for quality Kraftwerk CDRs that I don't have. Quality does matter, and you know the Warfield recording is very good. Please reply only to my personal address nextcube@ix.netcom.com I will keep your replies in order that I get them and I will contact you back. I will not be able to make copies for everyone, so it will be limited to what you have to trade in return and to how many I can make. I don't have a burner, I use my cousin's (which makes this a limited deal). Notice that I am not offering any regular recordings of Kraftwerk. The CDs I already have (all of these are Masters, not copies): Olympic First Edition Tocatta Electronica The Man Machine Revisited, Remixes Schone Neue Welt (Remixed, Remodeled) Warfield soundboard recording, 1998 San Francisco (2 CD) Ultra Rare Trax Vol 1 Tour De Trance I reserve the right to turn down a trade or cancel this offer at any time. I am trying to be nice and offer items to people who can't get them and so that I can get things that I don't have in return. We will each pay the shipping charges on our own end, which will make the deal even. Unfortunately you will need to mail me the CD that you are trading first. I can provide references as to my integrity. Thanks and have fun! Remember, this offer can be cancelled at any time and this is trading between collectors (not for profit). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Priscila Morsoletto" Subject: (kw) Temporarily without e-mail Date: 19 Jun 1999 00:36:53 -0300 Hi all, Sad news... my ISP Sun "Work"station is not working anymore. Oh my... everybody which sent e-mails to me these days need to wait, I'm sorry!!! Hey Eduardo Avellar, are you already with this problems in our SOL's account??? :-( Now good news: none yet. *sigh* Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: (kw) Multiple Eargasms Date: 19 Jun 1999 02:16:07 EDT Earlier, I was listening to ZAIREEKA by the Flaming Lips with a couple of my pals. If anybody is unfamiliar with the premise of that album: it is a four CD set. each disc is meant to be played simultaneously on it's own stereo/boombox/whatever. it's pretty cool. Anyway, after ZAIREEKA was done, I looked and saw all of these boomboxes in my bedroom. It did not take us long to combine other CD's to listen to together (i.e. different mixes of "Giggy Smile" by Faust). I finally got the idea to use both the English and German versions of Kraftwerk albums. I chose The Man Machine/Die Mensch Maschine. The vocoder tracks sounded the best, particulary the title track. "Das Modell"/"The Model" was somewhat disorienting. If anybody on the list is able to try this, I really reccomend it. It is much fun. A side note: as long as we are on the topic of Nine Inch Nails, isn't NIN's "A Warm Place" such a rip-off of David Bowie's "Crystal Japan"? I think so. Those are two tracks we listened to together (don't worry, the NIN CD was not mine). It was frightfully sickening. Sam Paterson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: (kw) Multiple Eargasms Date: 19 Jun 1999 02:16:07 EDT Earlier, I was listening to ZAIREEKA by the Flaming Lips with a couple of my pals. If anybody is unfamiliar with the premise of that album: it is a four CD set. each disc is meant to be played simultaneously on it's own stereo/boombox/whatever. it's pretty cool. Anyway, after ZAIREEKA was done, I looked and saw all of these boomboxes in my bedroom. It did not take us long to combine other CD's to listen to together (i.e. different mixes of "Giggy Smile" by Faust). I finally got the idea to use both the English and German versions of Kraftwerk albums. I chose The Man Machine/Die Mensch Maschine. The vocoder tracks sounded the best, particulary the title track. "Das Modell"/"The Model" was somewhat disorienting. If anybody on the list is able to try this, I really reccomend it. It is much fun. A side note: as long as we are on the topic of Nine Inch Nails, isn't NIN's "A Warm Place" such a rip-off of David Bowie's "Crystal Japan"? I think so. Those are two tracks we listened to together (don't worry, the NIN CD was not mine). It was frightfully sickening. Sam Paterson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL Subject: (kw) Asset Forfeiture Vote Date: 19 Jun 1999 07:45:36 -0700 June 19, 1999 =============================================== U.S. House will vote Wednesday on bill to reform asset-forfeiture laws *** Immediate action required! Telephone your House representative immediately. Friends: The U.S. House of Representatives is scheduled to vote on Wednesday, June 23, on a bill that would dramatically reform civil asset-forfeiture laws, which allow the government to confiscate the property of innocent Americans without even charging them with a crime. We are asking everyone who receives this message to *immediately* contact your House representative and ask him or her to vote YES on HR 1658, The Civil Asset Forfeiture Reform Act of 1999, sponsored by Rep. Henry Hyde, R-IL. BACKGROUND: Congress began enacting asset forfeiture laws in 1970 to permit the government to seize the property of the Mafia and major drug smugglers without having to convict them in court. Such laws have spread like wildfire since then -- currently there are over 200 on the federal books. Last year, the Justice Department confiscated 42,454 cars, boats, houses, and other assets worth over $604 million, according to its own admission. Police at all levels routinely use these laws to confiscate the possessions of thousands of innocent Americans without producing a search warrant, arresting them, or charging them with a crime. Shockingly, Americans who want their property back have to go to court to "prove" they haven't committed a crime. These prove-you're-not-a-criminal laws have another outrageous aspect as well: In order to have the "right" to contest the seizure in court, victims first have to post a cash bond and hire a lawyer -- even though in some cases the government has already seized their money to begin with. Thanks to asset forfeiture laws passed by Republicans and Democrats, the cops have become *worse* than the robbers. According to the U.S. Department of Justice, bank robbers stole assets worth a total of $28 million in 1994. But during the same year, federal prosecutors confiscated $2.1 *billion* in cars, boats, homes, and other property -- according to asset forfeiture expert James Bovard. That means that government "criminals" confiscated 75 times as much property as private criminals! That's why it's so important to demand that Congress pass HR 1658 -- we must seize this opportunity to stop the government from seizing our property. The Libertarian Party Platform calls for *repealing* asset forfeiture laws rather than reforming them. But until we elect enough Libertarians to Congress to achieve that, we will support any measure that would weaken the government's power to seize your property -- and HR 1658 would do that. Currently Rep. Hyde's bill has 59 co-sponsors, including U.S. Rep. Paul, R-TX, the Libertarian's Party's former presidential candidate. This legislation is supported by a wide range of civil liberties groups, including the National Rifle Association, the American Civil Liberties Union, Americans for Tax Reform, the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, Forfeiture Endangers American Rights, and the American Bar Association. HR 1658 would dramatically reform current law by: * Requiring the government to prove by "clear and convincing evidence" that property is subject to forfeiture. (Current law requires only a "preponderance of evidence" standard.) * Eliminating the requirement that a property owner file a 10 percent bond to challenge a seizure. * Providing for an "innocent owner" defense, so that people who were unaware that their property was being used unlawfully could have it returned. * Requiring the government to notify in writing anyone whose property has been seized, and forcing the government to return the property if such notice is not given. * Allowing property owners to sue the government for destruction of seized property while in its possession. * Awarding interest payments to property owners who successfully get their property back. WHAT TO DO: Contact your U.S. House representative today by calling the Congressional switchboard at 202-225-3121 or 202-224-3121. Then ask to speak to the office of your Representative. You can ask for the e-mail address of a particular Congressman once you are connected to that office, or look up their address at http://house.gov However, we recommend that you call because telephone calls will be answered and counted before the vote on Wednesday -- but there's no guarantee that e-mails will be tallied before then. WHAT TO SAY: (1) Identify yourself and let them know you are a voter in their district. (2) Ask them to vote YES on HR 1658, sponsored by Rep. Henry Hyde, when it comes to a vote on Wednesday. (This is the Civil Asset Forfeiture Reform Act of 1999.) (3) Ask them to vote AGAINST any weakening amendments. Is there anything else you can do? Yes! Forward this e-mail to a friend, and ask them to call their representative, too. With your help we can force Congress to start respecting your rights by reforming asset forfeiture laws. 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dirk jan "müller" Subject: (kw) Tour De France Re-issue Date: 19 Jun 1999 17:45:55 CEST On 5th of July 1999 EMI Germany will re-release TOUR DE FRANCE in 3 Forma= ts: - Vinyl 12" - CD maxi - CD enhanced I don=B4t know the exact tracklisting, but this is CONFIRMED!!!!! Via Groove Attack Distribution Germany a 12" Vinyl is available which is=20 called "Kraftwerk Instore Sampler" and it contains: Tour de France (Kevorkian RMX) Technopop (1983 Demo Version) Radioactivity (Orbit Mix) The Model (Carbonic Mix) And this vinyl exists. I own it. Ask your any record dealer which mainly=20 sells Techno/Hip Hop Vinyl. They can order it. Dirk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Liethen Subject: (kw) Music Non Stop VR Completed Date: 20 Jun 1999 00:16:59 -0500 GenevaAbout two months ago, I told the list about the new Kraftwerk 3D animated video I was working on. Since then, it has been completed! You can go and download the final video at http://key.madison.tec.wi.us/pete/mns For those that don't remember, the piece entitled Music non Stop VR is a fully animated 3D movie that features Ralf, Florian and crew on the Kling Klang set. Great visuals and syncronized audio abound. So, please download the video, view it and e-mail me your opinion! Monaco___________________________________________ Peter Liethen --- pliethen@execpc.com PeteNet Studio --- petenet.dragonfire.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Germanofon "Tone Float" CD bootleg? Date: 20 Jun 1999 11:22:39 +0000 > Is Tone Float on Germanofon? Mine isn't. [...] If your Tone Float is > Germanofon, I might like some information on it. There's a rumour that a Germanofon version of the "Tone Float" CD bootleg exists (catalogue number: 941000), but all commonly known "Tome Float" copies are not by Germanofon. If the Germanofon edition really exists, it must be *extremely* rare. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Madonna Bootleg Date: 20 Jun 1999 11:22:39 +0000 There's a new Madonna bootleg remix 2-CD out, "X-Ray Mixes", that includes the following track: "Frozen (feat. Kraftwerk) (special remix by DJ Pepsi)" Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Texas - Doc Snyder haelt die Welt in Atem" Date: 20 Jun 1999 11:22:39 +0000 The German TV channel VOX shows the movie "Texas - Doc Snyder haelt die Welt in Atem" (feat. Kraftwerk ex-member Charlie Weiss in a minor role) next week, Monday, 28.06.1999, 20:15 CET. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Tour De France Re-issue & Instore Sampler Date: 20 Jun 1999 11:22:39 +0000 > On 5th of July 1999 EMI Germany will re-release TOUR DE FRANCE in 3 Form= ats: > - Vinyl 12" > - CD maxi > - CD enhanced According to the info on emimusic.de, it seems that there will be only two formats, Vinyl and enhanced CD. > I don=B4t know the exact tracklisting, emimusic.de has rough tracklistings: Enhanced CD version (catalogue number: 8874210): 1. Tour De France 2. Tour De France 3. Tour De France 4. Video: Tour De France Vinyl: 1. "Kling Klang Analog-Version" 2. Francois Kevorkian Remix The site has also a promo text for the release (German language): "Tour De France, eine der epochalen Singles der Duesseldorfer Formation KRAFTWERK, erscheint zum Start der gleichnamigen beruehmtesten Radsportveranstaltung der Welt nun erstmals als CD-extra. Parallel zur Veroeffentlichung am 05.07.99 erscheint der Song auch als 12inch-Vinyl, ausgestattet mit einer Kling Klang Analog-Version auf der A-Seite und einem Remix von Francois K. auf der B-Seite. Erstmals veroeffentlicht hatte Deutschlands einflussreichste Band den Song 1983. In den UK-Charts kam die Single seinerzeit bis auf Platz 22. Ein Jahr spaeter veroeffentlichten KRAFTWERK Remix-Versionen der rhythmisch perfekten Radsport-Hymne ebenfalls mit viel Erfolg und einer hohen Chart-Notierung im Vereinigten Koenigreich. In Amerika erschien der Titel zudem auf dem Soundtrack zum Film Breakdance, was die Reputation von KRAFTWERK in HipHop-Kreisen noch zusaetzlich staerkte." > Via Groove Attack Distribution Germany a 12" Vinyl is available which is= > called "Kraftwerk Instore Sampler" and it contains: > Tour de France (Kevorkian RMX) > Technopop (1983 Demo Version) > Radioactivity (Orbit Mix) > The Model (Carbonic Mix) > And this vinyl exists. I own it. Ask your any record dealer which mainly= > sells Techno/Hip Hop Vinyl. They can order it. Yes, but they shouldn't order it, because this is no "Instore Sampler", but an illegal bootleg. ;-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fredrik =?iso-8859-1?Q?F=E4llman?= Subject: (kw) Musik von Tone Float Date: 20 Jun 1999 15:47:26 +0200 Dear friends, Some time ago I found a CD here in Stockholm (at Mellotronen shop for those who know this town) called "Musik von Tone Float" with new electronic music, sometimes sounding like Organisation/Tonefloat and Kraftwerk 1 and 2 and sometimes totally different but intriguing, irritating, frightening, beautiful and so on. Recommended! Have you all heard this CD? Or do you know anything more about the people playing on it? Here are the details: "Musik von Tone Float" Timothy's Brain (Evanston, Ill.) 1997, recorded at VDO studios Matt Castille, Eric Lumbleau, Doug Ferguson, Wanz Dover. No record number detectable. =46redrik F=E4llman (np: Electric Music/Out Of This World) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Knight Subject: (kw) ICQ ? Date: 20 Jun 1999 15:59:53 -0400 I was just wondering if any of you list members are on ICQ ... I would like to chat or exchange message of files with you all!! Eric Knight AKA= ericknig@sprynet.com Kraftwerk...... A way of life ! Home page:http://home.sprynet.com/~ericknig/kraftwerk.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EJRSemiGod@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) ICQ / Concert Classics Kwestion Date: 20 Jun 1999 16:42:37 EDT In a message dated 6/20/99 3:02:45 PM Central Daylight Time, ericknig@sprynet.com writes: << I was just wondering if any of you list members are on ICQ ... I would like to chat or exchange message of files with you all!! >> I'm ICQ'd... 14834824 Nosedive I just bought the "Concert Classics" CD last night ($18.. ordered in special).. I know it's been discussed time and time again, but I have to ask: What's the track listing for real? I know the last song is "Tanzmusik" from 'Ralf and Florian' (It fades out! Not cool!)..The first is "KometenMelodie" (what does he/they say through the vocoded organ at the beginning?).."Autobahn" as song 2... but the third? Someone says "KlingKlang" and other things before that song.. Also: What's with the "Woosh" machine? Whenever there's a space in between songs, there's a terrible hiss moving up and down a scale.. Is this like an early KW flange effect going out of control? Oh..and I love the "technical...difficulties with the...electronic drum...kit." For those who don't know/care what I'm talking about.. Sorry. later drake # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Musik von Tone Float Date: 20 Jun 1999 18:13:14 EDT Thanks for the info. I'd seen this CD before, but did not know if it would be worth buying. Sam Paterson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Concert Classics Kwestion Date: 20 Jun 1999 18:17:26 EDT << but the third? Someone says "KlingKlang" and other things before that song.. >> Some parts remind me of "Tongebirge"... it's pretty inconclusive. Sam Paterson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Musik von Tone Float Date: 20 Jun 1999 18:13:14 EDT Thanks for the info. I'd seen this CD before, but did not know if it would be worth buying. Sam Paterson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Concert Classics Kwestion Date: 20 Jun 1999 18:17:26 EDT << but the third? Someone says "KlingKlang" and other things before that song.. >> Some parts remind me of "Tongebirge"... it's pretty inconclusive. Sam Paterson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Enter the Mix" (Depeche Mode / Kraftwerk "tribute" CD) Date: 21 Jun 1999 01:10:35 +0000 Spotted on the Indietective Mailorder list (www.indietective.de): Enter The Mix (Depeche Mode/Kraftwerk) Various Artists / Sampler (CD). Release date: 21.06.1999. Described as "tribute sampler for Depeche Mode and Kraftwerk, similar to the Trancemode Express samplers". Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J.Garcia" Subject: (kw) Other cover of The Model Date: 20 Jun 1999 22:34:46 +0200 The Aviador Dro cover of The Model, titled "La Modelo" with adapted lyrics in Spanish, just released on the CD "Vano Temporal" with recordings from their 1979-1980 period, was recorded in late 1979 (probably november or december). It must be thus one of the first covers of The Model, no doubt, and was recorded for the first demo tape of el Aviador Dro. By the way, last friday Aviador Dro performed live at SONAR 99 and played "La Modelo", with an hilarious reference to Kraftwerk in the form of bringing to the stage a trafic cone! For those who don't know about one of the pioneers of technopop worldwide, and pioneers in Spain: http://fly.to/aviador Jose Garcia jgc@retemail.es # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Asset Forfeiture Vote Date: 21 Jun 1999 12:21:42 +0100 At 7:45 am -0700 19/6/99, BILL wrote: >June 19, 1999 >=============================================== > >U.S. House will vote Wednesday on bill >to reform asset-forfeiture laws Bill, I recall that you've already been asked to keep irrelevant political material off the list by your fellow subscribers. This long post (which is of US interest only) is not playing fair, is it? If you want to bring in politics, why not sneak something into your sig file, like I sometimes do... ;-) KB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) ICQ / Concert Classics Kwestion Date: 21 Jun 1999 12:12:39 +0100 EJRSemiGod@aol.com wrote: >I just bought the "Concert Classics" CD [...] >Also: What's with the "Woosh" machine? Whenever there's a space in between >songs, there's a terrible hiss moving up and down a scale. It sounds like a cheap "phaser" effects unit which they neglected to turn off. KB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HigbyHogan@aol.com Subject: (kw) Regarding the "woosher"... Date: 21 Jun 1999 09:11:36 EDT < EJRSemiGod@aol.com wrote: >I just bought the "Concert Classics" CD [...] >Also: What's with the "Woosh" machine? Whenever there's a space in between >songs, there's a terrible hiss moving up and down a scale >> I like the fact that there is no editing between the songs on this CD; there's a certain charm and immediacy to hearing the band resetting the dials on those old analog synths, discussing the next song. I presume they used the phaser to provide a consistent audio environment during those "quiet" moments. Higby # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michel J.Fauza Subject: (kw) Autobahn T-Shirt Date: 21 Jun 1999 10:30:06 EST Hey all. Does anyone know where can i find that blue autobahn t-shirt for sale, on= internet? That's for brazilians (sorry): Alguem em Sao Paulo sabe de algum lugar onde eu possa achar essa camiseta= ou demais coisas do Kraft? Thank you. Cya. _____________________________________________ Michel J. Fauza - http://www.fauza.cjb.net ICQ: 12449637 - Sao Paulo - Brasil - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - FMD Fusion Machine - http://www.mp3.com/fmdfm Hipnose - http://www.mp3.com/hipnose _____________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nummeren@aol.com Subject: (kw) bootlegs Date: 21 Jun 1999 11:00:38 EDT Food for thought... Why doesn't Ralf and Florian release all the bootlegs that have surfaced over the years.. Frank Zappa did it ....released a bunch of bootlegs, improved the quality, and made a few bucks....and definitely put happy faces on millions of his fans.... Not all of us have had the opportunity to purchase too many bootlegs... And since the NEW album is still a gigantic "?" , this would temporarily satisfy fans, like me, who need a Kraftwerk fix...... Nummeren # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) Autobahn T-Shirt Date: 21 Jun 1999 08:11:11 -0700 >Does anyone know where can i find that blue autobahn t-shirt for sale, on >internet? http://www.ticketworld.de/cgi-bin/jumpin.pl?f,english,KRAFTWERK KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) Asset Forfeiture Vote Date: 21 Jun 1999 09:22:54 -0700 >*** Immediate action required! Telephone your House > representative immediately. >WHAT TO DO: >Contact your U.S. House representative today by calling the >Congressional switchboard at 202-225-3121 or 202-224-3121. Then >ask to speak to the office of your Representative. Hey Billy boy, after reading your e-mail several times, I've come to the conclusion that your message has very much to do with this list, contrary of what everybody else thinks of it! You're implying something between the lines. What you're really asking us to do is to: "call your house representative and request him/her to bring Kraftwerk to your town's next OktoberFest!" Yes, that's it! Can you imagine Ralf and Florian in the traditional German outfit (hat with feathers and all) playing the "Chicken Dance"? Now that's something I'd love to see! I'm dialing that Congressional switchboard as we speak! You're the man, Bill! KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Large Subject: (kw) expo2000 membership? Date: 21 Jun 1999 08:15:50 PDT hi everybody I've been looking on the expo2000 site for the membership that has been spoken of. I already have the wonderful voices they wrote. despite what other members of this list say, I really rather like them :) especially the different tones and fluctuations they have used within the voice to represent each culture and the tones with in the language. ie the tinniness of the japanese one, the fullness of the german and english ones. I particularly enjoy listening to them with headphones. the kind of inverted panning of some of them use makes them sound sort of behind me :) I say veeery cool. my mate reckons some of them have too much reverb. I say 'NO!' perhaps I'm an obsessive, but I think they are rather marvellous, and I'm sure they spent hours perfecting each one. aaannnyyywwwaaayyy.... let the discussion commence... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom807@aol.com Subject: (kw) Regarding the "woosher"...Concert Classics Date: 21 Jun 1999 16:09:28 EDT In a message dated 6/21/99 9:18:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, HigbyHogan@aol.com writes: > I like the fact that there is no editing between the songs on this CD; It is also available on LP. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JMJ Fanklubb Norge" Subject: (kw) For sale or trade Date: 21 Jun 1999 22:36:37 +0200 Hey, I have two Kraftwerk boots that I really dont need anymore: Haute Abend, 2CD set from the 1991 tour, various concerts The First DJ Edition, compilation of remixes And then: Trans Slovenia Express, tribute compilation (not a bootleg) I'd be interested in anything JM Jarre (although I already have most of = his tuff), Antarctica on CD (not CDR) from Vangelis, or from KW: = Autobahn, Radio Activity (official releases on CD, no CDRs). If you = cannot offer anything for trade that I'd like, I can accept money. kind regards, Glenn Jean-Michel Jarre Fanclub Norway JMJ Tribute Album @ www.jmjfkn.com JarreArt @ www.itsahit.com/jarreart =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: (kw) Try this again...Asset Forfeiture Vote Date: 22 Jun 1999 01:41:47 -0400 >You're implying something between the lines. What you're really asking us > to do is to: "call your house representative and request him/her to bring >Kraftwerk to your town's next OktoberFest!" Yes, that's it! Can you imagine >Ralf and Florian in the traditional German outfit (hat with feathers and all) >playing the "Chicken Dance"? Now that's something I'd love to see! Seeing as how I love Kraftwerk...and I love the Chicken Dance too (it's one of four dances I do well), this sounds like something I'd LOVE to see!. Perhaps we could even get Wolfgang and Karl to make a suprise appearance. Maybe we could even get them to do The Hokey-Pokey in German! Just the concept of KW playing at Oktoberfest brings a lot of interesting possibilities, I think. >I'm dialing that Congressional switchboard as we speak! I'm with you! Bet THAT would pass, our legislature seems to be some real party animals. "I'd like to talk about road construction, but first, Autobahn to put us in the mood." >You're the man, Bill! I second that! >KW4EVER! KW Nonstop Huggy Bear np: Neonlicht # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric.Schader@gambro.com Subject: RE: (kw) Music Non Stop VR Completed Date: 22 Jun 1999 09:00:19 +0200 Great work Peter. Two happy thumbs up from me. Didn't you also have a Robots 3D animated video? Kindest regards Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Regarding the "woosher"... Date: 22 Jun 1999 04:01:58 EDT In a message dated 21/06/99 14:18:07 GMT Daylight Time, HigbyHogan@aol.com writes: << I presume they used the phaser to provide a consistent audio environment during those "quiet" moments. >> maybe they just forgot to switch it off ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HigbyHogan@aol.com Subject: (kw) The flanging horror... Date: 22 Jun 1999 04:13:25 EDT << I presume they used the phaser to provide a consistent audio environment during those "quiet" moments. >> maybe they just forgot to switch it off ? _____________________________________________________________ Don't you think that the "wooshing" would, to a degree, divert the audience away from the workaday tedium of resetting those infernal machines? As Orson Welles said, the greatest sin is to be boring. Take into account that the most of the crowd is there to hear AUTOBAHN... they may need to be prepared for the vibes stylings of V2 Schneider in a rock venue. Elegance and decadence, hIGBY # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Asset Forfeiture Vote Date: 22 Jun 1999 16:05:50 +0100 At 9:22 am -0700 21/6/99, Enrique Correa wrote: >Can you imagine Ralf and Florian in the traditional German outfit (hat with >feathers and all) playing the "Chicken Dance"? Now that's something I'd love >to see! I'd rather see them guest in South Park, dancing Cartman's "German dance". HigbyHogan@aol.com wrote: >Don't you think that the "wooshing" would, to a degree, divert the audience >away from the workaday tedium of resetting those infernal machines? Did they really have much to rest in those days...? Possible, but Occam's Razor splices low-budget equipment... K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: (kw) Music - the universal language Date: 22 Jun 1999 11:11:07 -0400 I'm sitting here listening to Schaufensterpuppen, and thinking...I believe one of KWs features that have brought them fans around the world is their ability to sing (and write?) in different languages. It sounds strange to me, between Schaufensterpuppen, Showroom Dummies and Les Mannequins, here is the same music, and obviously the same person singing...but three different languages. I'm certain that German is their native language (duh...), their English is fine...perhaps others on the list can tell how good is their (well, Ralfs, anyway) control of other languages? Can anyone think of any other group or artist that is fluent in as many languages? Huggy Bear # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Concert Classics Kwestion Date: 22 Jun 1999 12:30:37 EDT << tongebirge is NOT inconclusive! >> that's not what I meant, dude Sam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Music - the universal language Date: 22 Jun 1999 12:54:46 EDT < Can anyone think of any other group or artist that is fluent in as many languages? Faust has done quite a bit in Engish, French, and more recently some German. But I don't think that they do the same song in different languages. They are quite a group nonetheless. I have read that (Can singer) Damo Suzuki sings in all kinds of languages, but I can hardly discern anything he says. Sam Paterson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Colatina Radio Som Ltda <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) KRAFTWERK in BRAZIL AGAIN !! Date: 06 Jun 1999 01:35:13 -0300 Hi, Werkers ! Great news !! (For brazilians) KRAFTWERK will play in Brasil, again ! The ´99 World Tour includes our country. This information was printed by "DJ World" (brazilian magazine) NEW ALBUM... OTHER CONCERT... UAUUUUUUUUUUUU !!!!! Eduardo Monteiro 97 FM Colatina / ES # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "FXCordero" Subject: (kw) German Outfit Date: 22 Jun 1999 21:44:31 -0600 bring Kraftwerk to your town's next OktoberFest!" Yes, that's it! Can you imagine Ralf and Florian in the traditional German outfit (hat with feathers and all)playing the "Chicken Dance"? Now that's something I'd love to see! ROBOT posted a drawing at one time of R+F in traditional German outfits. http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/kw2000.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) new bootleg Date: 23 Jun 1999 11:53:26 +0200 Hi, Found the following item at www.ab-cd.com: Kraftwerk Usa 74 / Beatclub 71 (Dbl) ...... KWERKUSA2CDQ Import 04/09/99 - 2 CD Set Does anyone have it? I'd be interested to know the track listing, Hope the "USA 74" part is not simply a copy of the "Concert Classics" CD. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) KRAFTWERK in BRAZIL AGAIN !! Date: 23 Jun 1999 12:15:11 +0000 > KRAFTWERK will play in Brasil, again ! > The =B499 World Tour includes our country. Which world tour? > This information was printed by "DJ World" (brazilian magazine) Did they name their source? > NEW ALBUM... OTHER CONCERT... New hoax? ;-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: More new bootlegs (was: Re: (kw) new bootleg) Date: 23 Jun 1999 12:15:11 +0000 > Found the following item at www.ab-cd.com: > Kraftwerk > Usa 74 / Beatclub 71 (Dbl) > ...... KWERKUSA2CDQ Import > 04/09/99 - 2 CD Set Another new bootleg, also mentioned at www.ab-cd.com: Kraftwerk Westwood One Concert (Live Germany 1991) (10 Tracks) Westwood One WWL808 Import 05/28/99 - CD Album Does anyone know which concert it is? And finally, from www.ab-cd.com again: Kraftwerk "Organisation" Tone Float Rainbow Productions KTF-6 Germany Organisation: Ralf Hutter, Basil Hammoudi, Florian Schneider, Butch Hauf & Fred Monicks. Produced and Engineered by Conrad Plank - 1971 (compact disc) I believe the "Rainbow" edition hasn't been mentioned here before? Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Music - the universal language Date: 23 Jun 1999 14:23:36 +0200 On Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:11:07 -0400, Huggy Bear wrote: > >I'm sitting here listening to Schaufensterpuppen, and thinking...I believe >one of KWs features that have brought them fans around the world is their >ability to sing (and write?) in different languages. It sounds strange to >me, between Schaufensterpuppen, Showroom Dummies and Les Mannequins, here is >the same music, and obviously the same person singing...but three different >languages. I'm certain that German is their native language (duh...), their >English is fine...perhaps others on the list can tell how good is their >(well, Ralfs, anyway) control of other languages? > If it is Ralf , well guy, your french is excellent! It is even much improved between the time of "Les mannequins" and "Le mini Calculateur" and of course later tracks (TDF & Electric Cafe) I'm pretty sure Ralf speaks french fluently. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: Re: More new bootlegs (was: Re: (kw) new bootleg) Date: 23 Jun 1999 09:10:52 "Klaus Zaepke" wrote: >And finally, from www.ab-cd.com again: > >Kraftwerk "Organisation" >Tone Float >Rainbow Productions KTF-6 Germany... > >I believe the "Rainbow" edition hasn't been mentioned here before? Actually, the "Rainbow edition" of the Tone Float bootleg CD is indeed the one which so many of us have. The bottom lefthand corner of the back of the CD cover reads "Produced and engineered by Conrad Plank and Organisation for Rainbow Productions", hence ab-cd's use of the term. The catalog number of this one is indeed KTF-6. Furthermore, this is the same disc which contains the bonus track #6 ("Vor Dem Blauen Bock" - Beat Club TV Theme Mai 1971) also known as "Ruckstoss Gondolero". nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Larry Marotta Subject: Re: (kw) Music - the universal language Date: 23 Jun 1999 06:44:34 -0700 (PDT) --- Huggy Bear wrote: > Can anyone think of any other group or artist that > is fluent in as many > languages? > > Huggy Bear Several of Peter Gabriel's albums have both English and German versions. I believe David Bowie has done the same since I have heard a German-language recording of the song "Heroes." I think the Peter Gabriel German-language albums are fairly easily available at a decent suburban record store with a good-size import collection. I also think that Laibach seem to move pretty easily between Slovenian, German, and English. Larry _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TiMeZeRo [Daniel Mark]" Subject: (kw) Bootlegs? Date: 21 Jun 1999 16:27:51 +0200 At http://www.ab-cd.com You can buy Kraftwerk 1,2 and Ralf unf florian=20 Live in k=F6ln 67 are this promotion or bootlegs or even real copies? Daniel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97,3 FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) Tour 99 Date: 23 Jun 1999 16:35:09 -0300 Hi werkers, again. In my last message, I told: "great news" PRINTED BY brazilian magazine, called "DJ World". If the 99 World Tour is true or not, I dont know. This magazine reports about the new album, that will includes remixes by Afrika Bambaata, Underworld and Leftfield ( !!!!!!) For more details, go to www.djworld.com.br I hope thats True !!!! Eduardo Monteiro *from Brazil # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pri.letto@excite.com Subject: Re: (kw) Tour 99 Date: 23 Jun 1999 20:16:11 PDT On 23 Jun 1999 16:35, Colatina Radio Som Ltda wrote: > In my last message, I told: > "great news" PRINTED BY brazilian magazine, called > "DJ World". > If the 99 World Tour is true or not, I dont know. Oh my, let's hope that is true! :-) > This magazine reports about the new album, that will > includes remixes by Afrika Bambaata, Underworld and > Leftfield (!!!!!!) WHAT!?!?!? An album with remixes??? IMHO it's looks like a hoax. > For more details, go to > www.djworld.com.br There's NOTHING is this page!!!!! Just an e-mail. *sigh* I hope we can have more information about this things soon! Cheers, Priscila. _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: Re: (kw) Tour 99 Date: 24 Jun 1999 00:25:32 >> This magazine reports about the new album, that will > includes >remixes by Afrika Bambaata, Underworld and > Leftfield (!!!!!!) > >WHAT!?!?!? An album with remixes??? IMHO it's looks like a hoax. In the event that it's true, I'm curious to know if I'm the only one out here who'd be really disappointed if the new album contained remixes by these other artists? IMHO that wouldn't be a very Kraftwerkian thing to do, particularly seeing as how they've always avoided collaborations with other musicians on their original LPs. True, there have been remixes from time to time by the likes of Kevorkian and Orbit, but the original KW albums were still 100% KlingKlang produkt. I'd like to see a new KW album just as much as the next fan, but I sure hope that part of the rumour is untrue. nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) Tour 99 Date: 23 Jun 1999 23:03:57 -0600 (MDT) On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 nebulous@erols.com wrote: > In the event that it's true, I'm curious to know if I'm the > only one out here who'd be really disappointed if the new album > contained remixes by these other artists? I'd be disappointed for sure. I love KW remixes, but I don't think anybody but KW should have material on a KW album. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * Microsoft software: It may bloated, but at least it's slow. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Music - the universal language Date: 24 Jun 1999 02:13:37 EDT << I believe David Bowie has done the same since I have heard a German-language recording of the song "Heroes." >> This German version is called "Helden". Bowie also did a French version called "Heros". I don't know how easily available those tracks are. I think there is a real audio file of "Helden" on some Bowie page. Sam Paterson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: Re: (kw) Music - the universal language Date: 24 Jun 1999 11:33:36 +0200 At 11.11 22/06/99 -0400, Huggy Bear wrote: >Can anyone think of any other group or artist that is fluent in as many >languages? > >Huggy Bear Yes, Righeira! Didi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Bartos at Popkomm Date: 24 Jun 1999 13:10:01 +0000 According to an advert in the July issue of the German magazine Musikexpress, Karl Bartos will appear at the "3rd Electronic Heatwave" event in Koeln, which is a part of the Popkomm music fair (19.08.-22.08.1999). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Holton Subject: (kw) On the Road Date: 24 Jun 1999 14:55:56 +0100 Taken from Marie Claire (women's magazine) My perfect drive time tape by Human League Slade - Coz I Luv you Gary Numan - Are friends electric Donna Summer- Once upon a time Kraftwerk - Trans Europe Express Roxy Music - The Bob Barry White - You're my first , my last , my everything Japan - Quiet Life Marvin Gaye - What's going on Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus Kraftwerk - A clockwork Orange Can anyone explain (typing error?) Dave H "Too many people spend money they haven't earned, to buy things they don't want, to impress people they don't like." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric Oehler" Subject: RE: (kw) Autobahn T-Shirt Date: 24 Jun 1999 10:07:13 -0500 > > >Does anyone know where can i find that blue autobahn t-shirt for > sale, on > >internet? > > http://www.ticketworld.de/cgi-bin/jumpin.pl?f,english,KRAFTWERK > Just a warning...the ticketworld shirts are of slightly lesser quality than those bought at the concerts. I bought one shirt at the show and one from ticketworld and the ticketworld one is a lighterweight material which shrank a lot (easily form an XL to an L) in the dryer. I was very upset by this. Maybe it was just the shirt included in the shirt/mousepad deal...I'd assumed it would be the same shirt I bought at the show. My mouse won't track on the mousepad, either, but that's probably just my mouse. I hung the pad on the wall instead. _________________________________________________________________ Eric Oehler www.kiwi-media.com wonko@chorus.net www.nulldevice.com 100% pure evil, from concentrate. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred_Harding@idx.com Subject: (kw) concert classics kwestion. Date: 24 Jun 1999 11:11:54 -0400 Actually, yah, it sounds like a phaser, BUT, i can't detect anything in the music that is phased at that rate, or constantly, for that matter. I could be waaaay off here, but weren't the first out of phase effects produced by slowing the recording manually? i wonder if the distortion isn't actually physically produced, as in perhaps the taping itself is providing the distortion... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: Re: (kw) On the Road Date: 24 Jun 1999 11:20:16 David Holton wrote: >Kraftwerk - A clockwork Orange > >Can anyone explain (typing error?) The only thing I can think of is that it's either simply an honest mistake or this individual owns the "Virtu ex Machina" KW bootleg and thinks that the opening track "Beethoven-Intro" (which was used in the Clockwork Orange soundtrack) was actually KW. Who knows? :) nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) On the Road Date: 24 Jun 1999 11:32:55 EDT << Kraftwerk - A clockwork Orange >> The closest thing I can link this to is a cassette that I saw in a record=20 exchange by a group called Klockwerk. It seemed to be an R&B group. I=20 really do not know why I didn't buy it. It was only 33=A2. I'm kind of=20 kicking myself now. Sam Paterson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DepecheCBI@aol.com Subject: (kw) german newspaper TAZ and Kraftwerk Date: 24 Jun 1999 12:19:21 EDT Moin! Hier ein Kommentar der TAZ zu KRAFTWERKs EXPO-Jingle: http://www.taz.de/tpl/1999/06/24.fr/ibox?Ueber=&re=ku&name=a0038 Carsten Bolte. Kiel. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) German newspaper TAZ and Kraftwerk Date: 24 Jun 1999 10:10:19 -0700 >Moin! >Hier ein Kommentar der TAZ zu KRAFTWERKs EXPO-Jingle: >Carsten Bolte. Kiel. Good thing I have the AltaVista Translations website always handy. This is the "almost" unedited version of TAZ' article. I had to replace all the "power station's" with KW's :-)=20 Sensationally: After 13 years new of the Dusseldorf sound Machine. To = the EXPO 2000 equal six new TRACKS finished.=20 With their new CD "EXPO Jingle" has the silence of Kraftwerk an end. = The last disk "Electric Caf=E9" is past already 13 years, and even the = digital reprocessing of old factories (the Best OF album "The mix") is nine = years old.=20 When the Kraftwerk Masterminds Florian Schneider and Ralf Hutter = examined the Duesseldorfer Gentech fair in November 1994, this adjustment of the future tone carrier permitted conclusions on the new topic desks. But = not biotechnology, but the globalization forms the current topic of the Duesseldorfer Elektropop formation. Thus they published at the end of = May equal six new TRACKS, simply = German/English/French/Russian/Spanish/Japanese mentioned.=20 The organization that CD is held in the minimum Techno Style (Helvetica = on red reason) and gets along completely without Booklet. Kraftwerk renouncement of physicalness seems to their back-up after gradual = coming up in the Corporate identity as well as by robot Models now perfectly. Now = the pure is like imageless product "EXPO Jingle" in the foreground. Also = not even "electronic media" come are output into the trade, but under = evasion of its partner company EMI as direct sale of the EXPO-2000-Abteilung. To = hear one knows the six TRACKS only in the network or with the direct contact = with the Hannoveraner world exhibition: " this stamping einpraegsame and = popular tone sequence are used in the future variously: to the announcement of = EXPO stops in bus, course and airplane, with awards of the prize or press conferences, with broadcast and television transmissions, to the = greetings in the Internet, as wait loop call of the center or as beginning of performance and tracing gong with EXPO meetings."=20 Not only the presentation form, but also the praegnanz of the six = melodies for millions are unusual. 00:31 total period and 5 seconds for each = Song my D-CPlayer registers. In former times if their disks in German and an = English version published Kraftwerk, then now only one Song is carried forward = equal in six languages, whereby each version receives its own sound version. = The new Kraftwerk minimalism presents itself as by Vocoder and hall effects elektronisierte voice, which lets EXPO ring out solemnly "2000" in the languages that global Players. As "theme song of the world exhibition" = in Hanover the "EXPO Jingle" reflects the global requirement of the EXPO = as well as the Dusseldorf sound Machine. Their cult job runs on all = channels. Already Kraftwerk first disk equipped 1970 the Second Channel of German Television magazine "flag D" with a theme song / "to jerk-twitch"). And = to the Tour de France 1982 produced it a Jingle in the single format, that = to the wettfahrt of this year aluminum.=20 "It becomes always weitergehn / music as carrier of ideas. "By = mouse-click is inkorporiert Kraftwerk into the EXPO 2000. Hutter/Schneider are not Krautrock Drogenhippies, but Fit for Business. They baptized the 1968 created group of predecessors "Organization". Their location - the = "desk of the Ruhr district" - expands to the Pop medium Servicelandschaft. The Duesseldorfer executive committee floor the sounding sound consumption product GmbH feeds the modernization machine Popmusik and is part of = the German export surplus. Kraftwerk progress by Techno Pop plays on = computers larva in Germany. Does Gerhard Schroeder let be situated now the = Scorpions in the world exhibition arena left and does rockt on 9 June 2000 = together with that Kraftwerk Inc. the EXPO Jingles? Protect yourselves still = today this valuable piece of collecting tank.=20 taz Nr. 5868 vom 24.6.1999 Seite 17 Kultur 114 Zeilen Kommentar Jochen Becker =A9 Contrapress media GmbH Vervielf=E4ltigung nur mit Genehmigung des taz-Verlags KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tg97 Subject: (kw) KW in Brazil this year... HA HA HA! Date: 25 Jun 1999 00:11:43 -0300 Sorry Eduardo, but DJ World Magazine is not a serious publication! This is the same magazine that, last year, before KW concerts at Free Jazz, published "an interview" with Ralf H=FCtter to a certain DJ Ziggy, acording himself, just because I'm a DJ and he (Ralf) is interested in know more about electronic dance music from other countries (SIC). Some pearls from Ralf at this article: 1. We travel for all Europe quickly. We go to clubs in Amsterdam, London, Berlin, we go to shows in Belgium, Paris, we listen to the radio, dance, we fell the music and the pulse of each place. 2. Talking about his personal life, Ralf said he is not married and has 50 years old. 3. He said the new album will come in the beggining of 1999. 4. We are connected with the new sounds, listening tecno, big-beat, tri-hop. He know and like Massive Attack. 5. Karl Bartos left the band to form Elektronik. 6. Ralf H=FCtter is physician and Florian engineer. 7. A photo from Henning has the title: Ralph Hunter (SIC) and much more... Ralf "talks" during two pages. Well, I think this "famous" DJ made a miracle! He made Ralf talks, and a lot! Maybe he could make now Florian talk much more! Well, I can say it's not easy make them talk. Florian gave me an autograph without a single word, and I talked a lot to try to make him talk. And then they, the only brazilian publication, write that KW will play here again... OK! Now tell me people, could this be serious? peace Nicolau # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Priscila Morsoletto" Subject: Re: (kw) KW in Brazil this year... *SIGH*!!!!! Date: 25 Jun 1999 00:55:05 -0300 On 25 Jun 99 at 0:11, tg97 wrote: Well Nicolau, you're right that magazine "DJ World" said tons of crap. But what can we think about that... Here is what the news paper "Estado de Sao Paulo" [Sao Paulo State] (it's korrekt!?) said in 98/06/05: 1) *KLAUS* Bartos are in place of Klaus Roeder. 2) They kept the original formation (Hutter, Schneider, Bartos and Flur) until now. 3) This concert (in Free Jazz 98) are the return of Kraftwerk after 17 years without make ANY live performance. 4) The concert is *COMPLETE* which need transport 6 tons of equipments. I think that is the most important news paper we've here. And they said tons of crap. We haven't how to know if that things what "DJ World" said are true. :-/ What can we think about brazillian news papers/magazines? *sigh*!!!! Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Sony TV spot Date: 21 Jun 1999 12:58:06 +0200 A few rhythm samples from "It's More Fun To Compute" are used in the TV spot by Sony VCRs. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "3rd Electronic Heatwave" Lineup (was: Bartos at Popkomm) Date: 25 Jun 1999 16:40:01 +0000 > According to an advert in the July issue of the German magazine > Musikexpress, Karl Bartos will appear at the "3rd Electronic > Heatwave" event in Koeln, which is a part of the Popkomm music fair > (19.08.-22.08.1999). http://www.popkomm.de/german/kommunity/kommunity.html has some more info (German language) about this festival: Muengersdorfer Schwimmstadion 21.08.1999 Bass & Beats Area mit: Aphrodite, DJ Touche, 4Hero, FC Kahuna, Ian Pooley, Jonny L, Cristian Vogel House Area mit: Derrick May, Blake Baxter, Ken Ishii, Juan Atkins, Freddie Fresh, Luke Vibert, Rene Pera Electro/Freestyle Area mit: Klaus Schulze, Karl Bartos, Irmin Schmidt & Kumo, Jaki Liebezeit & Club Off Chaos, Agent Dan, 808 State DJs, Solar Moon Soundsystem, Gus Gus Beatz'n'Rhymes Area mit: Dr. Israel, Herbaliser, ARJ Snoek, Mekon, Die Firma & Gentleman, PowPow Movement feat. Daddy Rings, Gentleman, Mighty Tolga, Little Backra [...] Im Vorverkauf kostet das Ticket nur DM 30,-- (zzgl. Gebuehren). Bundesweit koennen die Tickets ab Anfang Mai unter 0180 / 5 212 512 bestellt werden. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADivakaran@aol.com Subject: (kw) Music - the universal language Date: 25 Jun 1999 12:17:09 EDT In a message dated 6/25/99 9:15:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ADivakaran writes: > Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:11:07 -0400 > From: "Huggy Bear" > Subject: (kw) Music - the universal language > > I'm sitting here listening to Schaufensterpuppen, and thinking...I believe > one of KWs features that have brought them fans around the world is their > ability to sing (and write?) in different languages. It sounds strange to > me, between Schaufensterpuppen, Showroom Dummies and Les Mannequins, here is > the same music, and obviously the same person singing...but three different > languages. I'm certain that German is their native language (duh...), their > English is fine...perhaps others on the list can tell how good is their > (well, Ralfs, anyway) control of other languages? his french seems top-notch - he sounds almost like a native. just a touch of "foreignness" at the edges. ashok # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Larry Marotta Subject: (kw) KW in Brazil Date: 25 Jun 1999 12:51:45 -0700 (PDT) In the short time I've been on the list, I've noticed a number of responses coming from members in Brazil. I also saw that KW hit a few cities in Brazil in their last world tour. I wonder if that is because KW is especially well received in Brazil and given the respect they deserve there. In the states, KW is popularly viewed as a novelty act, as are other important groups like Devo and Talking Heads. Does Brazilian popular music culture view KW as important pioneers still worthy of respect? Are KW pop stars in Brazil? Or are there only a few fans? In the same vein, someone had asked recently how Kraftwerk are viewed in different states of the US. I'd be especially interested in hearing from list members in other countries who could tell us how KW are viewed in their countries. Larry _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) KW in Brazil Date: 25 Jun 1999 13:56:43 -0700 Larry wrote: > KW hit a few cities in Brazil in their last world tour. I wonder if that is because KW is especially well received in Brazil and given the respect they deserve there. Going to South America is a very expensive trip; in order to make it worthwhile, they (like most of other artists) picked SA's two biggest markets: Argentina and Brazil. The boys are reclusive, away from the jet set and all of that, but when talking about money, they know where to find it. KWEVER! Enrique np: "Earthling" David Bowie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bob V.M." Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk to play with the Scorpions... Date: 25 Jun 1999 22:45:41 -0500 ...live in your daydreams. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bob V.M." Subject: (kw) Madness - Riding On My Bike - TdF-esque Date: 26 Jun 1999 00:38:11 -0500 I found "Riding On My Bike" by Madness in 1982. The beginning has some heavy breathing in sync remniscent of the heavy breathing in KW's "Tour de France." List it as another uncanny KW influence. However, the Madness bike ride is real English style with lots of bike bells. The question is whether Chris Boardman is a KW or Madness fan? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: (kw) another KW sample Date: 26 Jun 1999 10:22:07 I don't recall hearing anyone mention this particular one before, so I'll mention it. Popular rap artist Jay-Z recorded a song entitled "It's Alright" which received generous amounts of radio play on hip hop stations since its release last year on his "Vol.2... Hard Knock Life" album. The song contains a slightly sped-up sample of the digital sweeping sounds which run throughout Kraftwerk's "Hall of Mirrors" present throughout the whole song. Just thought I'd mention it for those who like to keep track of KW samples. nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) another KW sample Date: 26 Jun 1999 16:33:01 EDT Since we are on the topic of Jay-Z sampling Kraftwerk, the main musical track in "Sunshine" by Foxy Brown with Jay-Z is a sample of "The Man Machine". Sam Paterson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonMalis@aol.com Subject: (kw) Europe and Music Date: 27 Jun 1999 15:21:38 EDT For those people in Europe, I will be traveling to London, Paris and Oslo in a week and was wondering if any of you out there in Europe can give me any recommendations of where I can find rare/boot KW albums. Thanks, -Jon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tg97 Subject: (kw) KW in South America Date: 27 Jun 1999 21:54:46 -0300 Priscila, Klaus and Eduardo, Most of brazilian mags and journals published crap about KW last year. I'm not talking O Estado de Sao Paulo journal is better than DJ World magazine (and it is) but this magazine publish a lot of crap, not only about KW. At that "interview" I wrote before, it seems to me a hoax. Why? 1. KW just made one press meeting in Brazil last year, in Rio, and did not accept to do one in Sao Paulo, were they have much more fans. 2. KW didn't made any individual interview here in Brazil. 3. They just made three phone contacts before they came here: one for O Estado de Sao paulo journal, one for Folha de Sao Paulo journal and the last one for Bizz Magazine. 4. If you compare these three interviews with DJ World one, you can easily note that at the three first they (Ralf) didn't say NOTHING, except the same quotes we are tired to hear, like: we will release a new album next year, blah, blah, blah. At these thre "interviews", Ralf just answered a few questions. 5. So, why he would be so talkable with a guy from an obscure magazine? Just because he a dj and Ralf would like to know more about brazilian culture? 6. At DJ World interview, there's no quotes and no answers... it's a simple text and in the middle of it the DJ says that Ralf told me this and Ralf told me that. The same old stories we know... 7. The DJ says that Ralf obligate him (the correct word is intimar, but I don't know the correct word in english) to go to many clubs and disco in Rio and Sao Paulo, when he came here. Strange, uh, for a reclusive guy like Ralf. Well, we can check it just making a telephone call to the magazine, but I confess I have no time and interest to do this... Anyway, if anybody would like to continue about this topic, please mail me... Larry, both of KW concerts in Brazil were sold out!! They have a lot of fans here. Even now I find people telling how well impressive and how important was KW here last year, but they are not pop stars here. It was just a very long time expected concert in Brazil. Brazil has a good electronic scene, and of course, all of us were influenced by KW. Of course I would LOVE to see KW again in Brazil, but I really don't believe it. It's better go to Hannover... peace to all Nicolau http://members.xoom.com/kraftworld/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Victor Subject: (kw) KW in Brazil...... Date: 27 Jun 1999 22:19:06 -0300 Because KW came to Brazil ? Who did this decide? -- ===================================== Victor Miranda vmiranda@urbi.com.br http://www.urbi.com.br/users/vmiranda ===================================== # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "medusa ..." Subject: (kw) Newcomer Date: 27 Jun 1999 21:18:23 -0400 Hello everyone, I am Medusa, 22 years old, living in Montreal, Canada. I got to hear 'Man-Machine' and 'Computer World' about two months ago, and I'm hooked! Please, bear with me. I am pretty intimidated by your knowledge of all things Kraftwerk. I am still far from the bootleg collecting stage! (Anyway, I wonder how I would do this. Montreal is NOT bootleg heaven, far less Kraftwerk heaven, by any means!!) I love it when I 'discover' an artist or group that may very well be the 'big bang' of most modern music. I'm also into art and many other sick things. Anyway, that was my little intro. I won't intrude in your 'expert' discussions too much :) I know I will learn tons on this list just by staying a lurker! But let me have a little query here: Just out of curiosity, what other artists/bands do you listen to? Hoping to hear from you all, Medusa _____________________________________________________________ Win a FREE laptop - sign up for free disinfo.net email at http://www.disinfo.net $14.95 Unlimited Internet Access - http://banner.surfree.com/click.asp?lid=13912 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michel J.Fauza Subject: (kw) KW in Brazil Date: 28 Jun 1999 10:01:49 EST Larry Marotta wrote: >Does Brazilian popular music culture view KW as important pioneers sti= ll = >worthy of respect? Are KW pop stars in Brazil? Or are there only a few= fans? = Hello Larry. = Well, they're not pop stars here (or in any place, i think), and also n= ot well = known. But the brazilians who know their work certainly consider them a= s the pioneers of techno, and most important of any other electronic group. = Brazilian people in general don't listen to Kraftwerk, there's a huge = comercial musical system for the masses here. Maybe it happens 'cause = Kraftwerk isn't a pop "explosion", like popular groups here ("E O Tchan= ", "So = Pra Contrariar"... argh!). You know, music and marketing works together= in = every place on this world. = But the electronic scene here is starting to grow, and some good artist= s = confirm the Kraftwerk influences on their work (example: on Chico Scien= ce - in = memorian - last album, we can see "Kraftwerk" in one of the texts conta= ined = there). = Now talking about the brazilian media ("DJ World", "O Estado de S. Paul= o", = etc), we can't trust on their music information. I was on Free Jazz fes= tival here last year (when Kraftwerk did a gig), and then a well-known report= er from = Globo News (the most important tv network here) asked me the name of Kraftwerk = members. So imagine from where this magazine, "DJ World", took those = informations... = _____________________________________________ Michel J. Fauza - http://www.fauza.cjb.net ICQ: 12449637 - Sao Paulo - Brasil - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - FMD Fusion Machine - http://www.mp3.com/fmdfm Hipnose - http://www.mp3.com/hipnose _____________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Rare Numbers 12" Date: 26 Jun 1999 08:40:36 +0200 Recently I've bought a 12" which contains "Numbers" in the side A, but surprisingly Kraftwerk is NOT mentioned on the credits! The name of the record is Disco, the whole details: Mastered for DJ's only, E.P., Ballroom A1, 33 1/3 rpm, 1996, D762, Numbers (6:30). The B side contains "Body Mechanic" (6:58), an electro song strongly influenced by KW. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ullrich Peter Subject: (kw) Expo2000-Jingle now in MP3-Format on the Expo-Page Date: 28 Jun 1999 15:13:57 +0200 The Kraftwerk Expo2000-Jingle is now in MP3-Format on the Expo-Page. You download it without any registration... http://www.expo2000.de/2download/kraftwerk_jingle/alltracks.mp3 Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: http://come.to/ullrich or the full link http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3586/ Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician .oooO KAPSCH AG / SGB2 Vienna / Austria ( ) Oooo. Traffic Control and Transmission Technology ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:39:25 +0100 Date: 28 Jun 1999 07:40:14 -0600 Does anyone know where to get hold of the complete 1981 computerworld tour on CD. I saw it on triple vinyl a couple of years ago. Also there must be some bootlegs of radio broadcasts around. I've got a DAT copy of the BBC Tribal gathering broadcast but I feel there must be others. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Larry Marotta Subject: (kw) KW as pop stars Date: 28 Jun 1999 06:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Thanks for the responses to my KW in Brazil query. However, I think my query about KW being pop stars somewhere in the world needs clarification. I was thinking more of artists who, for whatever reason, are "big" somewhere in the world. For example, the American actor David Hasselhoff, who is a grade B celebrity here, is better accepted in parts of Europe. Or, when I was living in Florida, I had a friend who put out a dance record that flopped in the USA, but actually made the charts in Belgium. Go figure. I was just curious that if by some quirk of fate that in some country in the world KW are thought of as a "big" group, an important group. Not just a footnote as they are in the USA. Larry _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Sony signs Kling-Klang Date: 28 Jun 1999 17:02:43 +0200 (DFT) Quoted from www.musikwoche.de: Kraftwerk-Verlag entscheidet sich f=FCr Sony=20 Frankfurt am Main, 28.06.1999 - Mit einer "kraeftigen Portion Stolz" vermeldet Mike Weller, Managing Director/GSA des Musikverlags Sony/ATV Germany, das Zustandekommen eines weltweiten Verlagsvertrags mit Ralf Huetter und Florian Schneider von der Gruppe Kraftwerk und ihrem Klingklang Musikverlag: "Die Entscheidung von Kraftwerk, mit Sony/ATV zu kooperieren, ist fuer unser Unternehmen ein Meilenstein. Kraftwerk als Gesamtkunstwerk ist musikalisch gesehen mit Sicherheit einer der wichtigsten Einfluesse, die der internationalen Populaermusik je aus Deutschland zuteil wurden. Um so mehr darf man auf das in naher Zukunft z= u erwartende neue Studio-Album der Elektronik Kuenstler gespannt sein." Anlaesslich der Tour de France 1999 veroeffentlicht EMI Electrola im Juli die legaendere Kraftwerk-Single "Tour de France" neu.=20 Quelle: Musikwoche=20 Abstract: Sony/ATV Germany signed Kraftwerk's Kling-Klang Musikverlag for a worldwide author-publisher contract.=20 According to Sony Manager Mike Weller, Kraftwerk will release a new studio album "in the near future". Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nitrous Subject: Re: (kw) Sony signs Kling-Klang Date: 28 Jun 1999 11:09:48 -0400 Now for the translation to english ********************************** Power work-publishing house decides on Sony Frankfurt at the Main, 28.06.1999 - with a "strong portion Mike Weller, Managing Director/GSA of the music publishing house Sony/ATV Germany, the realization of a worldwide publishing house contract with Ralf Huetter and Florian tailor of the group power work proudly" announces and its blade sound music publishing house: the decision of power work to cooperate with Sony/ATV, is for our firm onMilestone. Power work as a total work of art is musically seen with security of one of the most important influences, that became the international popular music ever out of Germany given. All more the more more one may strained on that in the near future to be expected new studio-album of the electroeecs artists its." On the occasion of the tour de France 1999, EMI Electrola in the July publishes the legaendere power work-Single "tour de France" newly. Would originate: music week Klaus Zaepke wrote: > > Quoted from www.musikwoche.de: > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) Sony signs Kling-Klang Date: 28 Jun 1999 17:54:47 +0200 Ohh, my! This might mean they will actually release something, perhaps even something new! /Joakim PS. Of course I'm not holding my breath... -----Original Message----- Abstract: Sony/ATV Germany signed Kraftwerk's Kling-Klang Musikverlag for a worldwide author-publisher contract. According to Sony Manager Mike Weller, Kraftwerk will release a new studio album "in the near future". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Priscila Morsoletto" Subject: Re: (kw) KW in Brazil Date: 28 Jun 1999 13:20:38 -0300 On 28 Jun 99 at 10:01, Michel J.Fauza wrote: > Brazilian people in general don't listen to Kraftwerk, there's a huge > comercial musical system for the masses here. Maybe it happens 'cause > Kraftwerk isn't a pop "explosion", like popular groups here ("E O Tchan", > "So Pra Contrariar"... argh!). You know, music and marketing works together in > every place on this world. Thus MTV Brazil now just broadcast brazilian artists. Here, MTV in the most well-know musical place for teenagers listen musics. They put "E O Tchan" and "Backstreet Boys", only pop things. Here you couldn't find teenagers (like me) listen Kraftwerk. They not even know who KW are, but like to listen Prodigy, Orbital and this new techno things. > Now talking about the brazilian media ("DJ World", "O Estado de S. Paulo", > etc), we can't trust on their music information. I was on Free Jazz festival > here last year (when Kraftwerk did a gig), and then a well-known reporter > from Globo News (the most important tv network here) asked me the name of > Kraftwerk members. Hey, why you don't say the name of this reporter here, Michel??? Hehehe, I wanna torturate that guy!!!! ;-) Globo News sucks! I hate that channel!!!! But is right, this is the most important TV network here. After they broadcast Kraftwerk's performance last year, you can hear Pocket Calculator as background music in "Fantastico" (Fantastic is program) when they're talkin' about web/computer things. Oh my! :-( Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Priscila Morsoletto" Subject: (kw) Another BIG hoax - Ralf in a chat Date: 28 Jun 1999 13:20:38 -0300 Greetings, We were talking about hoax and how about Ralf's chat from the brazilian web provider UOL??? That thing is from the time they were here in the last year. Does anybody here believe he could do it!?!?!? I was not in this chat, by was I saw in the log it seens to be another big hoax. I really doesn't believe in it and I would like to hear what you all think about it. It's log is in Nicolau's page: http://members.xoom.com/kraftworld/ Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Lopez Van dam Subject: Re: (kw) Music - the universal language Date: 28 Jun 1999 13:36:25 -0300 (ART) > English is fine...perhaps others on the list can tell how good is their > (well, Ralfs, anyway) control of other languages? Well, it's quite a personal opinion, but I think their Spanish is not bad. But it is also true that they do not sing much in that language. Besos a todos (Kisses for everybody) Laura # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) Sony signs Kling-Klang Date: 28 Jun 1999 09:54:50 -0700 >According to Sony Manager Mike Weller, Kraftwerk will release a new studio album "in the near future". Sony is an "Organi$ation" well fit for the new millenium. They currently have three of the biggest sellers in the US as we speak: Will Smith, Jennifer Lopez and Ricky Martin. Kling Klang is back in business. KW4EVER!! Enrique np: "Computersymphonies" Kraftwerk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Sony signs Kling-Klang Date: 28 Jun 1999 15:52:19 EDT In a message dated 28/06/99 17:58:02 GMT Daylight Time, ENRIQUEC@heraeusmtd.com writes: << Will Smith, Jennifer Lopez and Ricky Martin >> what illustrious company for our heroes. ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Young Subject: (kw) Sony signs Kling-Klang Date: 28 Jun 1999 13:30:00 -0700 (PDT) --- MERSEYCHAM@aol.com wrote: > << Will > Smith, Jennifer Lopez and Ricky Martin >> > > what illustrious company for our heroes. ;-) Before you know it, they'll be livin' la vida robo.... _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Sony signs Kling-Klang Date: 28 Jun 1999 23:02:37 EDT << Before you know it, they'll be livin' la vida robo.... >> Dude... that is so disturbing. Sam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Max Totten Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Media Center CD-Roms Date: 28 Jun 1999 22:21:55 -0800 Hello, Testing, Ein, Zwei, Drei , Testing, Has anyone bought any of the CD-Roms at "Kraftwerk Media Center? Iam real fascinated with M-Disc collection 1, it has all videos, plus the Stop Selefeild Live clips, and more. Can anyone give an opinion? Regards, Max (New to the list} Totten Visit Black Sakamoto Graphics On-Line Portfolio at: http://www.freeyellow.com/members4/blk-skmt-grp/index.html Kraftwerk Media Center Discs: http://petenet.dragonfire.net/kw/mdiscs.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: Re: (kw) Rare Numbers 12" Date: 28 Jun 1999 19:17:48 +0200 At 08.40 26/06/99 +0200, Der Automat wrote: > >Recently I've bought a 12" which contains "Numbers" in the side A, but >surprisingly Kraftwerk is NOT mentioned on the credits! The name of the >record is Disco, the whole details: Mastered for DJ's only, E.P., Ballroom >A1, 33 1/3 rpm, 1996, D762, Numbers (6:30). The B side contains "Body >Mechanic" (6:58), an electro song strongly influenced by KW. Hi Automat! I've been surprised a lot when I read your mail about the 12" of "Numbers". Until half an hour ago I was thinking I was the only one to have it! I cannot remember how much I paid for this record.....how much did you pay it? I bought it together with another record, same graphic, repoting: mastered for DJ's ONLY E.P. D I B A L L R O O M A -1 S C 331/3 R.P.M. O c 1995 D801 TOUR DE FRANCE (6:45/6:47) The b-side is "an electro song strongly influenced by KW", called "Computer games", 6:38 min. long. Does anybody know anything about it????? Thanks Didi Milan - PDN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoff Watson" Subject: (kw) Mix video Date: 28 Jun 1999 21:56:49 +0100 Check out imvs.com and search for kraftwerk. This is a legit site so it's unlikely they're selling bootlegs..... Mix on video - too good to be true? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "GEOFF WATSON" Subject: (kw) Tour de France Date: 25 Jun 1999 23:08:42 +0100 With everyone on the list crying out for a new album for years it seems strange that there have been almost no postings regarding the fact that an official Kraftwerk release is destined to hit the stores on July 5th as pointed out by Klause. EMI also highlight a TV showing of some description on VIVA Berlin House on 28th June. O.K. , so it's only TDF again but it does have the video on the CD. Come on - get excited about this instead of all the usual crap that gets posted and isn't worth the download time ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Tour de France Date: 29 Jun 1999 16:45:57 EDT I am excited about the Tour De France reissue. I have spoken with my local record store and the CD will be mine. Cool. I'm hoping everyone else on the list is securing a copy of their own. Sam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peeters Ivo" Subject: Re: (kw) Rare Numbers 12" Date: 29 Jun 1999 22:58:26 +0200 -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Didi Aan: Der Automat ; kraftwerk@xmission.com Datum: dinsdag 29 juni 1999 21:40 Onderwerp: Re: (kw) Rare Numbers 12" > >At 08.40 26/06/99 +0200, Der Automat wrote: >> >>Recently I've bought a 12" which contains "Numbers" in the side A, but >>surprisingly Kraftwerk is NOT mentioned on the credits! The name of the >>record is Disco, the whole details: Mastered for DJ's only, E.P., Ballroom >>A1, 33 1/3 rpm, 1996, D762, Numbers (6:30). The B side contains "Body >>Mechanic" (6:58), an electro song strongly influenced by KW. > > >Hi Automat! >I've been surprised a lot when I read your mail about the 12" of "Numbers". >Until half an hour ago I was thinking I was the only one to have it! >I cannot remember how much I paid for this record.....how much did you pay it? > >I bought it together with another record, same graphic, repoting: > >mastered for > DJ's ONLY > E.P. D > I >B A L L R O O M A -1 S > C >331/3 R.P.M. O >c 1995 >D801 > >TOUR DE FRANCE > (6:45/6:47) > > > >The b-side is "an electro song strongly influenced by KW", called "Computer >games", 6:38 min. long. > I think 'Computer games' is by Yellow Magic Orchestra. Ivo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: Re: (kw) Tour de France Date: 29 Jun 1999 17:47:48 Greyseason@aol.com wrote: >I am excited about the Tour De France reissue. Any word on what format the single will be released on? I'm assuming there'll be a compact disc this time around. :-) Just curious if it will be released on both vinyl & CD? nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) Tour de France Date: 29 Jun 1999 15:16:10 -0700 nebulous@erols.com wrote: >Any word on what format the single will be released on? >I'm assuming there'll be a compact disc this time around. :-) >Just curious if it will be released on both vinyl & CD? According to http://www.emimusic.de TDF will be released on both: CD-extra & Vinyl. Enhanced CD version (catalogue number: 8874210): 1. Tour De France 2. Tour De France 3. Tour De France 4. Video: Tour De France Vinyl: 1. "Kling Klang Analog-Version" 2. Francois Kevorkian Remix Start the countdown until July 07th !!! KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) Sony signs Kling-Klang Date: 28 Jun 1999 09:54:50 -0700 >According to Sony Manager Mike Weller, Kraftwerk will release a new studio album "in the near future". Sony is an "Organi$ation" well fit for the new millenium. They currently have three of the biggest sellers in the US as we speak: Will Smith, Jennifer Lopez and Ricky Martin. Kling Klang is back in business. KW4EVER!! Enrique np: "Computersymphonies" Kraftwerk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) Sony signs Kling-Klang Date: 28 Jun 1999 09:54:50 -0700 >According to Sony Manager Mike Weller, Kraftwerk will release a new studio album "in the near future". Sony is an "Organi$ation" well fit for the new millenium. They currently have three of the biggest sellers in the US as we speak: Will Smith, Jennifer Lopez and Ricky Martin. Kling Klang is back in business. KW4EVER!! Enrique np: "Computersymphonies" Kraftwerk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) Tour de France Date: 30 Jun 1999 01:17:36 +0000 At 04:45 PM 6/29/99 -0400, you wrote: > >I am excited about the Tour De France reissue. I have spoken with my local >record store and the CD will be mine. Cool. I'm hoping everyone else on the >list is securing a copy of their own. > > Sam i searched CDnow and AB-CD and it is not listed, i have not tried my local stores yet, but they are usually little help. where do i go to order a copy? thanks all in advance, lenny g b.s. i just ordered german versions of Man Machine, Computer World, Electric Cafe, and The Mix from CDNOW. they had a sale on all imports 30% off. a pretty good deal. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bob V.M." Subject: Re: (kw) Tour de France Date: 30 Jun 1999 10:50:09 -0500 Enrique Correa wrote: > nebulous@erols.com wrote: > >Any word on what format the single will be released on? > >I'm assuming there'll be a compact disc this time around. :-) > >Just curious if it will be released on both vinyl & CD? > > Enhanced CD version (catalogue number: 8874210): > 1. Tour De France > 2. Tour De France > 3. Tour De France > 4. Video: Tour De France > > Vinyl: > 1. "Kling Klang Analog-Version" > 2. Francois Kevorkian Remix Will there be a Jan Ullrich signature release? Does Team Deutsche Telekom play Kraftwerk in the team car/van? Is Eric Zabel a KW fan? Udo Bolts? Is Banesto playing KW, since KW speaks Spanish so well? Does Dick Virenque do the words on Tour de France (shudder)? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rw Subject: Re: (kw) Tour de France Date: 29 Jun 1999 19:14:45 -0500 Greyseason@aol.com wrote: > I am excited about the Tour De France reissue. I have spoken with my local > record store and the CD will be mine. Cool. I'm hoping everyone else on the > list is securing a copy of their own. Has anyone heard about the Jan Ullrich signature issue? Is Ullrich a KW fan? Team Deutsche Telekom? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Tour de France Date: 30 Jun 1999 14:01:13 EDT In a message dated 30/06/99 17:06:56 GMT Daylight Time, bvonmoss@bigfoot.com writes: << Will there be a Jan Ullrich signature release? Does Team Deutsche Telekom play Kraftwerk in the team car/van? Is Eric Zabel a KW fan? Udo Bolts? Is Banesto playing KW, since KW speaks Spanish so well? Does Dick Virenque do the words on Tour de France (shudder)? >> I didn't realise KW had such a pro-drugs stance ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Tour de France Date: 29 Jun 1999 19:23:59 EDT In a message dated 6/29/99 1:23:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, geoff.watson@virgin.net writes: << that an official Kraftwerk release is destined to hit the stores on July 5th as pointed out by Klause. >> I missed Klause's post. Can someone fill me in on this?? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97,3 FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) Videos Date: 30 Jun 1999 19:39:10 -0300 Hi, werkers. I`m here again, with the same offer; Maybe you dont know, but, I have many videos of Kraftwerk for trade. The VTs are available on NTSC color system *accept in good part of the world. Concerts recorded during the Mix Tour 91 - 92 in Belgique, England and others places. The videos includes the same tracks *Numbers, CW, TEE, etc I accept SWAP by original CDs (Computer World, Electric Cafe, Autobahn) (one video by one CD) This offer its nice for us, I think so. The next week, I will have a new video, recorded at New York, 98 Tour !! Wait the news... If Interested, please, contact me privately. 97 FM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/