From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) More News Date: 01 Jul 1999 13:04:36 +0100 According to Billboards new release schedule there is also a Kraftwerk boxed set 'The Werks' due on August 24th. Has anyone got any info on this? Paul Martland # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) More News Date: 01 Jul 1999 14:38:26 +0200 This surely has to be a bootleg - KW would never release a record with that name. /Joakim -----Original Message----- ...a Kraftwerk boxed set 'The Werks' due on August 24th. Has anyone got any info on this? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) More news on boxed set Date: 01 Jul 1999 14:57:47 +0100 More news on the boxed set listed in Billborad new releases for Aug 24th. It's on 'The Right Stuff' label which seem to have a decent roster of talent. Is this an American label? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicolau Centola Subject: (kw) Ture & False about KW in Brazil Date: 01 Jul 1999 06:20:31 PDT Sorry Priscila, But the chat with Ralf at UOL is a true story. I was there and before the= =20 concert confirm the story with the festival production. He made a chat fr= om=20 a laptop with a guy from UOL site (typing and managing) in Rio two days=20 before the first concert (I=B4m not sure about the date, but it was two o= r=20 three days before). He was so convincet in the chat. The problems with ch= ats=20 is that you don=B4t have a control about who is in, and particulary at UO= L=20 chat, the maximum was only 20 people at a time. So we had a lot of stupid= =20 questions like: this is you first time in our country? Did you like our=20 country? Did you drink caipirinha? KRAFTWERK WWWOOOOOWWWWW!!!!! LOOK AT=20 ME!!! So we lost a lot of time just with these non cerebral people. Other= =20 problem was almost everyone wrote in portuguese, a language that Ralf (an= d=20 most of the world) don=B4t speak (well, they sang in portuguese just a li= ttle=20 piece in MNS). That took a long time, because the guy that was tying=20 probably had to translate to Ralf and type the answer. Me and other guys tryed to make some interesting questions, in english=20 sometimes (my nick was Numbers, if someone would like to check). Well, Ra= lf=20 didn=B4t say really nothing!!! I edited the chat with the best parts and = put=20 it in my page. If anybody is interested... just in portuguese, sorry.... http://members.xoom.com/kraftworld/ Try 1998 concerts Rio de Janeiro dot in the map... considering you know=20 where RdJ is... True about KW in Brazil last year: 1. Chat on UOL 2. Press conference in Rio de Janeiro 3. Interview for Bizz magazine 4. Interview for O Estado de S=E3o Paulo journal 5. Florian interview for for brazilian TV Multishow (this is totally true= ...=20 check my pics) 6. Ralf surfing in the net in S=E3o Paulo, at festival lounge after the=20 concert 7. KW in various dance houses in Rio 8. They would like to play in Brazilia next time False: everything except formerly ones... peace Nicolau "musica eletronica figura ritmica ate politica da era atomica" >>>>From: "Priscila Morsoletto" We were talking about hoax and how about Ralf's chat from the brazilian w= eb provider UOL??? That thing is from the time they were here in the last ye= ar. Does anybody here believe he could do it!?!?!? I was not in this chat, by was I saw in the log it seens to be another bi= g hoax. I really doesn't believe in it and I would like to hear what you al= l think about it. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) More news Date: 01 Jul 1999 10:37:26 -0700 > i searched CDnow and AB-CD and it is not listed, i have not tried my = local > stores yet, but they are usually little help. where do i go to order = a copy? > I missed Klause's post. Can someone fill me in on this?? Found at http://www.towerrecords.com/ Tour De France (Eu) Kraftwerk = 7/5/99 CD Maxi-Single $9.99 (Advance Buy) >a Kraftwerk boxed set 'The Werks' due on August 24th. Has anyone got = any >info on this? If "The Werks" is another name for the 'Arbeiten/Works/Oeuvres' set, = then, we're talking about a mixture of mainly studio tracks. The set also = contains the track that Kraftwerk performed on the 1971 'Beat Club' television appearance. Whether this assumption is correct or not, the "multi-disc = set", is due in record stores by August 24th.=20 FYI: 'Arbeiten/Works/Oeuvres' tracks: Disc One: Silver Forest (3.17), Ruckzuck (7.47), Ruckstossgondoliere (11.17), Kling Klang (17.36), Tongebirge (2.50), Autobahn (22.42), Kometenmelodie 2 (5.45)=20 Disc Two: Radio-Aktivit=E4t (6.41), Stimme Der Energie (0.55), Antenna = (3.42), Trans-Europa Express (6.53), Metall Auf Metall (6.43), Die Roboter = (6.14), Das Modell (3.43), Die Mensch Maschine (5.25), Computer Welt (5.06), Taschenrechner (4.55), Computer Liebe (7.18), Tour De France (6.30), = Boing Boom Tschak (2.58), Musique Non Stop (5.46) >Will there be a Jan Ullrich signature release? Does Team Deutsche = Telekom=20 >play Kraftwerk in the team car/van?=20 For all of you TDF fans out there, there will be a free screensaver available very soon. For more info, go to: http://www.thingworld.com/home.asp (other screensavers available: = David Bowie and Depeche Mode) KW4EVER!=20 Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Johnson Subject: (kw) More News - "The Werks" Date: 01 Jul 1999 11:41:24 -0700 Reference to Paul Martland's post... "The Werks", a multi-disc set, WAS scheduled to be released August 24th in the USA. This was to come from "The Right Stuff" a sub-label of Capitol/EMI (who originally released "Radio" "Trans" and "Man" in the US). I called the label, and the project has been put on hold. The person I spoke with believed it to be a "greatest hits" type collection. Regardless, it won't be put back on the schedule until late this year, or early next. No reason was given. MY SPECULATION: I think The Right Stuff was going to do another edition of the Kraftwerk projects done by Cleopatra (another Capitol/EMI offshoot): a straight repackage of the three mentioned albums, or a one-disc compilation from same. I don't think they would have involved tracks other than from those three albums. As typical for Kraftwerk of late, a twinge of hope, but no payoff. -Keith Johnson kj@gmnameplate.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoff Watson" Subject: (kw) TdF Date: 01 Jul 1999 21:14:47 +0100 EMI in London say they have no Kraftwerk release in the UK next week or planned any time in the near future. HMV and our Price don't have it listed for release either. Has anyone in the UK found a possible supplier yet? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jerry Withers Subject: (kw) New TDF release Date: 01 Jul 1999 19:34:01 -0400 Hello Here the info on the new releases. Found at # http://www.groove.nl/# =================================== Kraftwerk =================================== 18994 Kraftwerk - TOUR DE FRANCE (CD-S) 4tr single + CD-R video New entry. US$ 15.95 / DM 32 / EURO 15.75 38774 Kraftwerk - TOUR DE FRANCE (12") Kling Klang + Francis D remixes New entry. US$ 13.75 / DM 27 / EURO 13.50 -- Jerry Withers SAP R/3 SD Consultant Only Amiga Makes it Possible! ICQ 35448587 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Max Totten Subject: (kw) Re: Nicolau's Chat Page Date: 01 Jul 1999 19:14:02 -0800 Me and other guys tryed to make some interesting questions, in english sometimes (my nick was Numbers, if someone would like to check). Well, Ralf didn´t say really nothing!!! I edited the chat with the best parts and put it in my page. If anybody is interested... just in portuguese, sorry.... http://members.xoom.com/kraftworld/ Try 1998 concerts Rio de Janeiro dot in the map... considering you know where RdJ is... Regarding a translation page for portuguese into english go top the url/urls below....understanding Nicolau's chat page is only a click away! Max http://www.bellbath.demon.co.uk/Pages/translte.html http://babelfish.altavista.com/cgi-bin/translate? -- Visit Black Sakamoto Graphics On-Line Portfolio at: http://www.freeyellow.com/members4/blk-skmt-grp/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Max Totten Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk @ Expo 2000 Date: 01 Jul 1999 19:18:05 -0800 Does anyone know if tickets will be sold in advance to KW's show at Expo 2000 in Hanover? Is anyone interested in a pilgrimage? Regards, Max Visit Black Sakamoto Graphics On-Line Portfolio at: http://www.freeyellow.com/members4/blk-skmt-grp/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Schefflan Subject: Re: (kw) More news on boxed set Date: 01 Jul 1999 23:33:20 -0400 >>> More news on the boxed set listed in Billborad new releases for Aug 24th. It's on 'The Right Stuff' label which seem to have a decent roster of talent. Is this an American label? <<< The Right Stuff is EMI's catalog exploitation label, like Rhino is to WEA, or Hip-O is to Universal/MCA; or Chronicles to Universal's other half, PolyGram. >>> I think The Right Stuff was going to do another edition of the Kraftwerk projects done by Cleopatra (another Capitol/EMI offshoot). <<< Cleopatra is not owned by EMI or any of its subsidiaries. It's only distributed by EMD's (EMI Music Distribution's) independent Caroline division. Peace. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Re-mastered Trans,Radio,Man Machine Date: 02 Jul 1999 09:43:35 +0100 Can American KW devotees shed light on this. On CD universe there are re-mastered versions of the above for sale. Are these the Cleopatra versions and if so is the sound quality any better? Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Juno Jackson Subject: (kw) Various questions Date: 01 Jul 1999 20:59:05 PDT 1) Are there any recent photos of Karl Bartos on the web ? I haven't seen how he looks lately, and I haven't picked up any EM discs yet. Were there ever any pictures of Fernando Abrantes as well ? Why did he leave during the Mix tour ? Tensions ? 2) Also, what ever became of Klaus Roeder ? Is he MIA ? Did he ever play live with KW, or did the Autobahn tour start after Wolf Dogg (no pun intended) joined ? 3) I went to see KW live in Hollywood last year, and I'm still confused; who is Fritz and who is Henning ? I can't tell them apart ! What's the age difference between them and Ralf and Florian (I know that R&F are like what, 52 now ? 4) I heard "Das Model" today, and I was wondering, what is that last word in the second line of the first verse ? It sounds like Ralf is clearing his throat ! You know what I'm talking about ? I laughed my head off when I heard that ! :) Love you all, NoiseWerker (KW & Art of Noise FOREVER !!!!) noisewerker@hotmail.com noisewerker@home.com ICQ # 42651237 _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Juno Jackson Subject: (kw) MP3's and TDF (Analog Version) Date: 02 Jul 1999 04:27:14 PDT Hi everyone !!! I don't think that my last messages made it through, so I apologize if this is junk mail. I was wondering if anyone knew if there are any current MP3's of the following : Tone Float Kraftwerk Kraftwerk 2 Ralf & Florian Sex Object (demo version) Sex Object (Spanish version) BBC Tribal Gathering broadcast Doepfer A-100 demos/poems Plus if someone could give me the link again for the Expo 2000 MP3 , it would be greatly appreciated. Also, has anyone heard the Analog Version of TDF before ? Was it previously unreleased until now ? What are the main differences (if anyone knows) ? Love you all, NoiseWerker ;) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Juno Jackson Subject: (kw) MP3's and TDF Analog Version Date: 01 Jul 1999 20:08:12 PDT Hey guys !!!! How is everyone ? 1) REGARDING MP3's : Well, I was just listening to the 1983 demo version of "Technopop" , and I must say, it sounds fifty million times better than the EC version !!! Why didn't KW release this version ? The grooves are so much tighter !!! I remember that the Kraftwerk Czech Pages (one of my favorite sites) once had some MP3's of the BBC Tribal Gathering radiocast and the other Technopop demos, but now they are no longer accessible on the page. Does anyone know where I could find these ? Also, are there any MP3's of Tone Float and the first three KW albums (1,2, and Ralf & Florian) ? Could someone give me a link ? 2) I'm assuming that the "Analog Version" of TDF has never been released before (until July 7 of course) . If it has, does anyone know what the differences are in this mix ? Love you all, NoiseWerker "From Deutschkraft 'til Dawn" ;) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: Re: (kw) TdF Date: 02 Jul 1999 09:39:17 +0100 Geoff, This seems correct. I've been looking for this but to no avail. I've ordered from Tower Europe on line. I also checked EMI Switzerland on Weds and it was listed. On Thurs it wasn't. I'm worried that this will be another no show like the reviewed but never released 2cd version of Man Machine. Geoff Watson wrote: > >EMI in London say they have no Kraftwerk release in the UK next week or >planned # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) KW Entertainment Group Date: 02 Jul 1999 12:15:47 -0700 Werkers, check this site: http://www.kraftwerkentertainment.com/ It's pretty cool, it looks like a "high tech theme park", complete with casinos, multimedia shows and the whole nine yards! Related to our heroes? I don't know... but the trademark word Kraftwerk is all over the place. I sent them an e-mail and I'm still waiting for an answer. If anybody wants to give'm a ring, this is their contact number: +43 7242 69269 - 0 KW4EVER! Enrique n.p.: "Star Rise" Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan & Michael Brook: Remixed (it's a cloudy day, what can I say!) fellow Americans: Have a happy and safe 4th of July weekend! Hungry for some more screensavers? go to the features of http://www.expo2000.de/englisch/aktuell/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Rundqvist Subject: (kw) Covenant @ Roskilde a la kraftwerk Date: 02 Jul 1999 22:59:25 +0200 (MET DST) Covenant (Swedish synth-group) played at Roskilde today, Friday and ended their session with the words "Party on" and walked out with their synthesizers still playing for about 5-8 minutes.. Groovey! //Martin aka Roboten @ Roskilde here and now Sponsored by X-polis / Compaq # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoff Watson" Subject: (kw) TdF Date: 02 Jul 1999 21:00:52 +0100 As Paul Martland pointed out TdF is available at Tower Europe. They also advertise some Residents cd's that even the Residents themselves are out of stock ( www.ralphamerica.com ) Any list members going to see the Residents in London on July 19th? All we need now is another Devo concert and I'll die a happy man. (Probably on July 4th before all of the good stuff - thanks a bunch Nostradamus) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Finarvas Subject: Re: (kw) Covenant @ Roskilde a la kraftwerk Date: 03 Jul 1999 00:28:52 +0200 Martin Rundqvist wrote: > Covenant (Swedish synth-group) played at Roskilde today, Friday and ended > their session with the words "Party on" and walked out with their > synthesizers still playing for about 5-8 minutes.. Groovey! > > //Martin aka Roboten @ Roskilde here and now Sponsored by X-polis / Compaq Yeah that does sound a bit kraftwerk-inspired =) /Finarvas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rochow@pixelmagic.com Subject: (kw) Regurgitate Re:TdF, please? Date: 02 Jul 1999 18:33:39 -0400 Could someone regurgitate what's known about the new TdF release, please? I lost net access for a few days and would apreciate any info, as I'll have to give instructions for purchase of this longawaited CD soon. thanks. -gbr # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Storey" Subject: (kw) Thanks for the video! (for Ralf Grasso only - lost personal e-mail address) Date: 03 Jul 1999 08:48:21 -0400 Ralf Grasso, sorry I have lost your e-mail address. Thank you so much for the video! I have one to send you in return. Please e-mail me at jmjarre@dynamite.com.au Chris Storey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Tour De Tower Records Date: 02 Jul 1999 16:07:05 -0700 >Could someone regurgitate what's known about the new TdF release, please? >I lost net access for a few days and would apreciate any info, >as I'll have to give instructions for purchase of this longawaited CD soon Here it is, once again: According to http://www.emimusic.de TDF will be released on both: CD-extra & Vinyl. Enhanced CD version (catalogue number: 8874210): 1. Tour De France 2. Tour De France 3. Tour De France 4. Video: Tour De France Vinyl: 1. "Kling Klang Analog-Version" 2. Francois Kevorkian Remix You can buy it at http://www.towerrecords.com/ -Tour De France (Eu) Kraftwerk 7/5/99 CD Maxi-Single $9.99 (Advance Buy)- or if you're in Europe, go to TR Europe (it's funny, but they credited as a "Kling Klang" release): http://www.towereurope.com/scripts/runisa.dll?tower.983196:FFHOME:673286: KW4EVER! Enrique "I think our music has to do with emotions. Technology and emotion can join hands" said Hutter in 1991. They sure can, Ralf, whatever you say... now get off that couch and join your heavenly fingers with some smoking keyboards, would you? ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar R Johansson Subject: Re: (kw) Tour De Boxman.co.uk Date: 03 Jul 1999 03:21:35 +0200 http://www.boxman.co.uk/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductShow?lang=3D6&cur=3DSEK&c= o=3D16 00 &prmenbr=3D1600&prrfnbr=3D342995 At Boxman.co.uk you find this: Tour De France - Price: 3.99=A3 Artist: Kraftwerk=A0 Genre: Dance=A0 Distributor: Unknown Format: CD-Single Label: KKMS Date of Release: =A01999-07-05 Est. Delivery: =A0 2=A0Working days No of items: 1 What is KKMS??? /Gunnar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Priscila Morsoletto" Subject: Re: (kw) Various questions Date: 03 Jul 1999 00:33:45 -0300 On 1 Jul 99 at 20:59, Juno Jackson wrote: >3) I went to see KW live in Hollywood last year, and I'm still confused; >who is Fritz and who is Henning ? From the left to the right: Ralf, Henning, Fritz and Florian. Ok? >I can't tell them apart ! What's the age difference between them and Ralf >and Florian (I know that R&F are like what, 52 now ? Does anybody know the ages of Henning and Fritz??? I'm curious to know! Well, Ralf have 52 years now (until 20th august) and Florian have 52 years, his birthday was april 4th. I hope that help. :-) Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Tour de France Date: 03 Jul 1999 11:37:05 +0000 > From: "Geoff Watson" > > EMI also highlight a TV showing of some description on VIVA Berlin > House on 28th June. This video show was repeated yesterday evening on VIVA, and there was no Kraftwerk footage, so the announcement on emimusic.de must have been a mistake. > From: Enrique Correa > > TR Europe (it's funny, but they credited as a "Kling Klang" release): It *is* a Kling Klang release, so what's so funny about it? > From: Gunnar R Johansson > > At Boxman.co.uk you find this: > Tour De France - Price: 3.99=A3 > Label: KKMS > > What is KKMS??? "Kling Klang Musik / Sony Music Publishing"? Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) EXPO jingle criticism Date: 03 Jul 1999 11:37:05 +0000 Yesterday's issue of the Hannoversche Allgemeine featured an article about Kraftwerk's jingle for the EXPO world exhibition. The piece is described as a "so-called jingle", that sounds as it was recorded on a cheap answering-machine and played back in a tin can. The EXPO marketing department, as well as radio and TV advisers dislike the jingle, and spokesmen for the German TV / radio station NDR, media partner of the EXPO, pointed out that test airings of the jingle got negative feedback from the audience. NDR 2 has it's own jingles and will not use the Kraftwerk jingle, which is considered as "completely unsuitable". The government of Lower Saxony criticised the EXPO management for paying DM 400.000 for this piece. EXPO arts section manager Stromberg said that the price was "less than DM 400.000". He thinks that the high price is justified, because Kraftwerk are expected to release a new album "soon", on which they "may" (!!) use the EXPO jingle. In this case the EXPO would participate on the album sales. The article is online at http://www-vgm2.niedersachsen.com/HAZ/LOKA/story26479.html Maybe the EXPO should look for a new arts section manager. :-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Francesco Gardinali Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk & Sony Date: 03 Jul 1999 11:17:55 +0200 Hi, friends! Are You sure that it's Ok if R&F signed for SONY? Sony is only a machine to make money. They don't know what means the word "ART" or "MUSIC", they only know "MONEY". Kraftwerk usually make music (and concerts and new realeses) when they want. Sony will program everything for them and Kraftwerk can only say "YES" (or "YA" ;-)). See what happened with Jean-Michel Jarre! Fans need new album, fans need concerts, fans like Oxygene and analogic instruments and old weird sounds and... et voila! With SONY You get in few months "Oxygene 7-13", with old analogic sounds and concerts and so on. But this is the worst album of Jarre! No art, no music!!! And if Sony don't make the business they drop You in few minutes and destroy you. Sony need to keep the leadership on the music market and we all know that is not a good time for music: no new ideas, no new sounds. And this is the idea (for the business): why not look for old good seventy music makers... But remember, friends, it's only business. Bye, Frank # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eugene Zaikonnikov" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk & Sony Date: 03 Jul 1999 13:49:44 +0300 > See what happened with Jean-Michel Jarre! Fans need new album, fans need > concerts, fans like Oxygene and analogic instruments and old weird sounds > and... et voila! With SONY You get in few months "Oxygene 7-13", with old > analogic sounds and concerts and so on. But this is the worst album of > Jarre! No art, no music!!! Dang, I'd like to hear something new even if it would be their worst album... Remember the rumblings about Electric Cafe being the worst KW album? But it's a favorite album of my firend. I'm pretty sure that someone would like new KW material, even if majority of fans will reject it. Cheers, Eugene. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk & Sony Date: 03 Jul 1999 09:49:26 Francesco Gardinali >Are You sure that it's Ok if R&F signed for SONY? ... >Sony will program everything for them Well, luckily Kraftwerk are robots, so being programmed should come naturally for them at this point. :-) I'd love to meet the bastard who programmed them not to release new material in 8 years... nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter...." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk & Sony Date: 03 Jul 1999 15:45:53 +0200 On Sat, 03 Jul 1999 11:17:55 +0200, Francesco Gardinali wrote: > >Hi, friends! >Are You sure that it's Ok if R&F signed for SONY? >Sony is only a machine to make money. I totally agree with you. but EMI or Universal are not better, believe me ! Look at what EMI has done when they bought Birgin. They simply deleted many items from virgin'sback catalogue. It is too bad, since Virgin was one of the very few respectable record company around. So, yes, I suspect that Sony signed KW because they are one of the most respected group of the world. Never heard a newspaper said "Kraftwerk makes crap music". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ALR" Subject: (kw) Tour de France - from mailing list Date: 04 Jul 1999 01:02:09 +1000 Quote: KRAFTWERK: Tour De France CD (EMI). "Just in time for the Tour De France '99, Kraftwerk's classic 'Tour De France' gets reissued and remixed by Kling Klang Analog and François Kervorkian." I don't believe this legendary single has ever been legitimately on CD before. A classic 1983 track that was scheduled to be included on the missing Technopop album. That album was abandoned & never released, although some material later surfaced on the Electric Cafe in 1986; but "Tour De Fance" was not included & has been heavily in demand ever since. This CD version features "Tour De France" (Radio Version), "Tour De France" (Kling Klang Remix), "Tour De France" (François K Remix) + multimedia track (video of "Tour De France"). 10.99/12" 10.99 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JMJ Fanklubb Norge" Subject: SV: (kw) Kraftwerk & Sony Date: 03 Jul 1999 19:49:38 +0200 >See what happened with Jean-Michel Jarre! Fans need new album, fans = need >concerts, fans like Oxygene and analogic instruments and old weird = sounds >and... et voila! With SONY You get in few months "Oxygene 7-13", with = old >analogic sounds and concerts and so on. But this is the worst album of >Jarre! No art, no music!!! I agree that Sony is not the best record company, they are indeed = focused on making money. They also did some not-so-cool stuff to Jarre, = but it is a mistake to belive that Sony forced Jarre to release Oxygene = 7-13. Jarre was working on this album and the concept of it years before = Sony got involved. Also, if you dont like the album it has nothing to do = with Sony because they did not push it. O7-13 was voted the best JMJ = album ever by Norwegians fans! And Sony did a decent marketing operation = for this album. What I think we can expect from KW now that they are on Sony, is a more = commercial attitude towards spin-off products, such as remixes, singles, = compilations, tours, merchandise, maybe an updated website, etc. A = record company like Sony wants to make money in all areas and I am = pretty sure they secured to rights to, for example commission remixes by = famous DJs. It would not surprise me if the first KW release on Sony is = another remix compilation, or at least a new version of The Mix just to = keep the buyers' credit cards hot.=20 kind regards, glenn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Press quotes Date: 03 Jul 1999 21:34:18 +0000 > Never heard a newspaper said "Kraftwerk makes crap music". Here are some examples: "Musical Chinese water torture, occasionally passable as background but generally irritating." (Rolling Stone) "Odd noises [...] drift out from the speakers without any comprehensible order while a few words are muttered from time to time in a strange tongue. [...] Miss." (Melody Maker) "The synthesizer sounds are pretty Mickey Mouse [...]. The lyrics, meanwhile, must be a joke." (Sounds) "Electronically, melodically, and even rhythmically, they do not come near Chick Corea. As a group they lack the ability [...] to fuse innovative electronic sounds with popular rock characteristics." (Popular Music & Society) "I became tired quickly and their absence of movement and speech made it more difficult to stay awake. [...] Even their smash tune 'Autobahn' failed to conjure up any more emotion out of me than lukewarm amusement." (Melody Maker) "Sounds pretty drab to a mere Earthling. Walter Carlos is better. Miss." (New Musical Express) "Cuts like 'Geiger Counter' , 'Intermission' and 'News' are plain stupid." (Rolling Stone) "Their music is, well, infuriating is what I keep thinking. [...] I was disappointed." (Sounds) "Capitol decided to sign the band. But after a disastrous British tour and now with this, equally disastrous album, I fear that some record company man somewhere is beginning to realise that perhaps it was a mistake." (Sounds) "Kraftwerk's last album [...] battled Olivia Newton-John for the consumer dollar." (Down Beat) "What kind of boredom is this? It feels so good when it starts, and it feels so good when it stops." (Rolling Stone) "Kraftwerk are a big joke but I'm not laughing that much. [...] Krautwerk's return is no different than that of Slade or The Sweet. There is an air of cheap revenge about it, of heating up old baked beans - it's a pathetic betrayal of myth." (Sounds) "Kraftwerk's music never transcends a ponderously pseudo-scientific self-seriousness. [...] Even at its brightest, the music had a funereal momentum that seemed clunklingly pretentious." (New York Times) "The side-long techno suite was an almost total turn-off" (Q) "'Electric Cafe' has the right chefs, it's just the menu that's wrong. Unappetising." (Sounds) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: SV: (kw) Kraftwerk & Sony Date: 03 Jul 1999 21:58:07 +0000 > What I think we can expect from KW now that they are > on Sony, is a more commercial attitude tow ards spin-off products, such as > remixes, singles, compilations, tours, merchandise, maybe an updated web > site, etc. A record company like Sony wants to make money in all > areas and I am pretty sure they secured to rights to, for example > commission remixes by famous DJs. It would not surprise me if the > first KW release on Sony is another remix compilation, or at least a > new version of The Mix just to keep the buyers Er, the article stated that Kraftwerk's Kling-Klang Verlag signed an *author-publisher* contract with Sony/ATV Germany. This does not automatically imply that possible future Kraftwerk *record* releases will appear on the Sony *record label*. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonMalis@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Various questions Date: 03 Jul 1999 17:42:43 EDT In a message dated 7/2/99 3:50:44 PM, noisewerker@hotmail.com writes: > 2) Also, what ever became of Klaus Roeder ? I have no clue >Is he MIA ? As far as I know >Did he ever play live with KW, or did the Autobahn tour start after Wolf >Dogg (no pun intended) joined I'm not sure, but I didn't think so -- until I dug out my copy of the Concert Classics CD. It claims that he was one of the four (Florian, Ralf, and Bartos being the other three). I know that there are some other errors on that CD, but I dot know about that one, though. -Jon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeroen de Haan" Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO jingle criticism Date: 04 Jul 1999 09:29:18 +0200 About the "Jingle" I dowloaded it from the EXPO site and was a bit disappointed. EXPO 2000 in several languanges sang/spoken through a vocoder. Hmmm, gives me the "my-little-sister-could-have-done-this"-feeling (except that she doesn't own a vocoder). -- MONEY: People will do odd things if you give them money. When everything is worth money, then money is worth nothing. If you keep your money in your shoe, then people will know which bills are yours. Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wolfhardt.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: re: (kw) EXPO jingle criticism Date: 04 Jul 1999 14:13:45 +0200 Klaus Zaepke wrote: > Maybe the EXPO should look for a new arts section manager. :-) What about Ralf & Florian ? ;-) Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JMJ Fanklubb Norge" Subject: SV: SV: (kw) Kraftwerk & Sony Date: 04 Jul 1999 00:58:10 +0200 Klaus: >Er, the article stated that Kraftwerk's Kling-Klang Verlag signed=20 >an *author-publisher* contract with Sony/ATV Germany. This does not=20 >automatically imply that possible future Kraftwerk *record* releases=20 >will appear on the Sony *record label*. OK, I see. I must have missed some info on the subject. Well, in any = case *if* they sign a record deal my previous statement might come true. = But, hopefully not, of course. regards, glenn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Corey Winer Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk in Luton Date: 03 Jul 1999 11:34:24 -0500 Are there any videotapes out of the Kraftwerk concert in Luton 1997? If so, do you know where I could obtain one? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernie Longmire/Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk & Sony Date: 04 Jul 1999 11:56:27 -0600 On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 11:17:55AM +0200, Francesco Gardinali wrote: > Are You sure that it's Ok if R&F signed for SONY? > Sony is only a machine to make money. There is no such thing as a major record label that *isn't* a machine to make money. -- Lazlo Nibble - lazlo@studio-nibble.com - http://www.studio-nibble.com -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Juno Jackson Subject: (kw) Sony deal and other things Date: 03 Jul 1999 17:59:43 PDT Okay, for the last time, KW is not signed to Sony Music ! IT IS ONLY A PUBLISHING DEAL !!!! Kling Klang is still distributed by EMI (maybe they're still with Elektra over here in the US too; does anyone know about this ?). Another perfect example of this would be Orbital. They're songs are published by Sony/ATV, but they are still under contract to FFRR and London. Are we starting to get it now ? Besides mechanical royalties, publishing deals don't really mean shit if you aren't getting any radio airplay or exposure through other types of media. Considering that KW doesn't really let anyone use their songs (except for the movie "Breakin'",) this isn't really that big of a deal. It's probably more of a consolidation thing. I mean look at how many publishing companies that KW has been affiliated with over the years; Intersong, Famous, No Hassle, etc. It was probably done to keep everything intact and together. Although it would be quite a sight to see Ozzy, Ricky, Mariah, Michael, Celine, Jarre, Billy, and KW all on the same stage together !!! ;) And while we're speaking about copyrights, I read on the Aktivitat on-line zine that Philips bought the rights to early KW material a long time ago for $2,000. I thought that Kling Klang owned everything ! I'm confused. Did Ralf and Florian just buy the material back from Philips , or what ? I also wanted to give a great big thanks to the individual who posted the link for EMI Electrola's web site. I have been looking for this FOREVER !!!! Even when I called Capitol US, they didn't know about a web site for EMI Germany. You are the BOMB (whoever you are) !!!! Robotically yours, NoiseWerker noisewerker@hotmail.com noisewerker@home.com ICQ # 42651237 _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) autobahn animation Date: 04 Jul 1999 16:00:21 -0700 hello, i just bought a Krautrock compilation video that included the autobahn animation, among a few other KW videos, CAN, La Dusseldorf, Eberhard Schoner, Michael Rother, Randy Pie, Neu!, Passport, Popol Vuh, and The Monks. the quality is very good, one or two minor glitches on the video tape. the only credit given for the animation is to Kraftwerk. i remember reading that this animation was not made or sanctioned by Kraftwerk, so does anyone know who is the author (cartoonist) of the animation. also, a friend of mine said that when he was in high school (in mid '80's) his German language teacher showed the autobahn animation video to his class. for those who have seen it - that's pretty fucked up, ain't it!?. thanks in advance for the info, lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk & Sony Date: 04 Jul 1999 15:39:14 +0000 Arnaud de Bonald wrote: >Never heard a newspaper said "Kraftwerk makes crap music". i beleive that is no longer the truth! allow me to quote a recent posting by Klaus Zaepke: ***** Yesterday's issue of the Hannoversche Allgemeine featured an article about Kraftwerk's jingle for the EXPO world exhibition. The piece is described as a "so-called jingle", that sounds as it was recorded on a cheap answering-machine and played back in a tin can. The EXPO marketing department, as well as radio and TV advisers dislike the jingle, and spokesmen for the German TV / radio station NDR, media partner of the EXPO, pointed out that test airings of the jingle got negative feedback from the audience. NDR 2 has it's own jingles and will not use the Kraftwerk jingle, which is considered as "completely unsuitable". The government of Lower Saxony criticised the EXPO management for paying DM 400.000 for this piece. EXPO arts section manager Stromberg said that the price was "less than DM 400.000". He thinks that the high price is justified, because Kraftwerk are expected to release a new album "soon", on which they "may" (!!) use the EXPO jingle. In this case the EXPO would participate on the album sales. The article is online at http://www-vgm2.niedersachsen.com/HAZ/LOKA/story26479.html ***** i guess its more than a quote, but it is so well written i dare'd not disjoin it in any way. anyway, that's business for you. Kraftwerk make art, and businessmen and most importantly taxpayers and investors say it's crap! lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ann Ward Subject: (kw) vocoders Date: 05 Jul 1999 00:55:30 -0400 Hi I am really interested in purchasing a vocoder for various musical projects, and am wondering if anyone on the list has a used one they want to sell, or at least some advice on what to buy new. So far the only one I have found is made by Doepfer in Germany, but I am sure there are others available. Thanks, Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Schefflan Subject: Re: (kw) Sony deal and other things Date: 04 Jul 1999 22:38:09 -0400 >>> Although it would be quite a sight to see Ozzy, Ricky, Mariah, Michael, Celine, Jarre, Billy, and KW all on the same stage together !!! ;) <<< Yeah, and maybe Sony'll have a change-of-heart and re-sign Sister Souljah, the screaming goddess. 23,000 people can't be wrong! Peace. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ALR" Subject: (kw) New at www.kraftwerk.com Date: 05 Jul 1999 19:45:52 +1000 There is a new item for sale at the Kling Klang product shop: KRAFTWERK Mousepad-Set (8 Motive) Tour De France Autobahn Roboter weiss Antenne Roboter schwarz www.kraftwerk.com Radioactivity TEE A bit expensive tho. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Has anyone actually got a copy of Tour de France Date: 05 Jul 1999 10:50:35 +0100 Come on. Has anyone got a copy or is it a no show? Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: Re: (kw) Has anyone actually got a copy of Tour de France Date: 05 Jul 1999 13:50:38 +0200 At 10.50 05/07/99 +0100, Paul Martland wrote: > >Come on. Has anyone got a copy or is it a no show? Let's wait for tomorrow ! ! ! Didi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTOPH_MARQUARDT@HP-Germany-om9.om.hp.com Subject: RE: (kw) vocoders Date: 05 Jul 1999 14:29:39 +0200 > I am really interested in purchasing a vocoder for various musical > projects, and am wondering if anyone on the list has a used one they > want to sell, or at least some advice on what to buy new. So far the > only one I have found is made by Doepfer in Germany, but I am > sure there > are others available. Hi Nate, there are many digital rack effects available nowadays that have vocoders built in. I have recently bought a "ZOOM 1201 STUDIO RACKMOUNT PROCESSOR", a low cost (DM 300,- / 100 pounds) multi effect system which, apart from being a reverb (astonishingly good for that price), also contains effects like vocoder, pitch shifter, etc. (check out http://www.samsontech.com/zoom/multiconsoles.html) .. at least for my purposes the vocoder is okay (although a real analog vocoder would most likely be cooler :)) - but maybe it doesn't suit real professional requirements. Other than that I don't know much about what other vocoders there are or what they cost. Hope this helped. Cheers, Christoph # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: "Tour de France" CD-Single (was: (kw) Has anyone actually got a Date: 05 Jul 1999 14:39:49 +0200 (DFT) > Come on. Has anyone got a copy or is it a no show? I don't know about the vinyl version, but the CD version is out. Catalogue number: EMI 7243 8 87421 0 8. Track listing: 1. Tour de France (Radio Version) 3:07" 2. Tour de France (Kling Klang Analog Mix) 6:44" 3. Tour de France (Remix Francois K.) 6:45" 4. Multi-Media-Track The audio tracks are digitally remastered. The sleeve is identical to the original sleeve, except that Karl Bartos' and Wolfgang Fluer's faces have been replaced with other faces, similar to the graphic at kraftwerk.com/tourdefrance.html. The video is the original 1983 promo video version (3:07") in Quicktime format. The quality/solution is not too good (filesize: 41 MB). (The original Bartos & Fluer faces are still present in the video intro, so the video is 100 % identical to the 1983 version.) The presentation software for the video includes the antenna animation from kraftwerk.com. This is the only multimedia element on the CD except for the video. EMI has published full page colour ads for the release in the current issues of the magazines Musikwoche (frontpage ad) and Musikmarkt. These adverts include the catalogue number for the 12" vinyl version: EMI 7243 8 87421 6 0. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) El Lissitzky Date: 05 Jul 1999 15:40:02 +0200 An exhibition of Lissitzky's photographies, films, photomontages and graphism was inaugurated in The MACBA (Museum of Contemporary Art of Barcelona) on July, 1st. Lazar Morduchovitsch Lisstizky, known as El Lissitzky, was born in the Russian region of Smolensk in 1890 and died in Moscow in 1941. He lived, then, one of the most intense periods of contemporary Russian history and participated actively from his position = of architect, painter and graphical designer in the socialist revolution. Th= e exhibition, opened to September 5th, begins with a brief selection of pictures, drawings and lithographies related to the concept of the proun (Russian abbreviation of "projects for the affirmation of the new thing")= , that he defined as "a station of connection of the painting with the architecture. It's about the articulation of the space by means of lines, planes and volumes". Also some preparatory sketches for the construction = of the exhibition are included "abstract art room", which the artist designed for the Provincial Museum = of Hannover, built between 1927 and 1928, and demolised by the Nazis. It's a facet that introduces the spectator in the assembly of the exhibition, si= nce this one is in the last centered works of the artist related to his photographic experiments and the application of his theories to the monta= ge of the exhibitions, the photomontage and the design of magazines. As a wh= ole it's featured about 300 works, from which an important part comes from th= e Russian Public Record Office of Art and Literature, and from the privated archive of the artist's son, Jen Lissitzky, reason why they have been see= n for the first time in the West as a result of this exhibition, that previously it was showed in the Sprengel Museum of Hannover and later it will be able to be seen in the Funda=E7ao Serralves of Oporto (Portugal). When El Lissitzky went back to Russia, in 1925, he leaved painting to go = in for the political photomontages and the photographic experimentation -he invented, for example, the technique of the photopis, word translatable a= s photowriting or photopainting, which it was due to use the light as a paintbrush with which to paint directly on the photographic paper-. The exhibition ends with a section dedicated to the art more directly propagandistic of El Lissitzky. He was engaged by the Soviet State, and h= e was the the person in charge of the design of the magazine "The URSS unde= r construction", that it was translated to several languages. The photomontages included in this publication, for the ones he made use of images of different photographers, are a one more example of his artistic talent. His influence in this field it was enormous inside and outside of the Soviet Union, where the Stalinist regime adopted it as a mark of its propagandistic ostentation. El Lissitzky inspired the concept of Kraftwerk's The Man Machine Album. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Other cover of The Model Date: 05 Jul 1999 15:34:47 +0200 Larry Marotta wrote: >Der Automat: >I must respectfully disagree with your message that El Aviador Dro Y >Sus Obreros Especializados will present the FIRST cover version of KW's >"The Model." > >In the late 80s, the Chicago band Big Black released a 7 inch with a >cover version of the song. El Aviador Dro covered in live this song for the first time in 1979, so i= f Big Black did a version in the late 80s as you say (1987 exactly), you ag= ree that I am right, I continue saying El Aviador Dro Y Sus Obreros Especializados were the first band in the whole world in making a cover version of The Model. BILL wrote: >There is another and earlier one my dear Kraftwerk fans! I feel this mus= t >be THE >FIRST cover version of "The Model". The song "The Model" was covered on >the >Snakefinger (1949-1987) album that is titled >"Chewing Hides the Sound" which was released in 1979. I think it is an >EXCELLENT >cover too! I'm sorry to disagree, since the Snakefinger cover version is from 1980. A girl from venus wrote: >Rammstein covered The Model recently. Since Rammstein are from Berlin (Germany) they have made a rock version f= rom the classic "Das Modell". Chris Whitley also made an acoustic version of "The Model". "The Essential Collection Synthesizer 2000" (Arcade, 1998) double CD includes a cover version of "Trans-Europe Express" produced and programme= d by Ed Starink. He also made covers of "Autobahn", "The Model" and "Radioactivity" in the past and maybe others... Treble Spankers versioned "The Model" which sounds like the UK guitar gro= up The Shadows. Hybrid Machine's CD "Eloquence" features a cover version of "The Model". Balanescu Quartet performed their own unique interpretations of "The Mode= l" songs as a string quarte. At West 54th tonight (a U.S. tv show on PBS) Da= vid Byrne (ex-Talking Heads) performed an impressive cover of "The Model" wit= h the Balanescu Quartet. There is a cover in a disco version of "Das Modell" by Kroeger (BMG, 1990= ). Random Logic, "The Model", included in "Trans Slovenia Express" album. "The Model" by Ikon is included in "Trancewerk Express Vol. 1 (A Tribute = To Kraftwerk)". An act called Steinberg have issued their own version of "The Model". Los Ni=F1os Del Brasil -from Zaragoza, Spain- did "La Modelo". Interfront (Megabeat) -from Barcelona- did "The Model". DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) Tour de France Date: 05 Jul 1999 17:46:58 +0200 Found at www.cdzone.co.uk: =A35.43 Tour De FranceImport Barcode 0724388742160 5 Jul 1999 =A35.72 Tour De FranceImport Barcode 0724388742108 5 Jul 1999 =A35.45 Tour De FranceGerman Import 8874212 12 Jul 1999 =A35.30 Tour De FranceGerman Import 8874216 12 Jul 1999 Do you know why there are two diferent references? From which country is the Barcode one? In any case, I've placed my order :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Tour de France Date: 05 Jul 1999 18:24:15 +0000 > Found at www.cdzone.co.uk: > =A35.43 Tour De FranceImport Barcode 0724388742160 > =A35.72 Tour De FranceImport Barcode 0724388742108 > =A35.45 Tour De FranceGerman Import 8874212 > =A35.30 Tour De FranceGerman Import 8874216 > > Do you know why there are two diferent references? Catalogue mistake? > From which country is the Barcode one? As it was already posted to the list, 724388742108 and 724388742160 are the catalogue numbers for the German CD & 12" single releases, so these "barcode" items are obviously the German pressings. BTW: Apparently there are / were also plans for an alternative CD single release with the same audio versions as on 724388742108, but without the video. The planned catalogue number for this second CD version is 724388742122. Does anyone know if this version was released / will be released, or was it cancelled? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Harald Westphal Subject: (kw) Search Engine for ML Archive Date: 05 Jul 1999 22:04:30 +0200 (CES) I've written a small CGI script for searching in the mailing list archives. You can find it at this URL: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~unhj/cgi-bin/search.cgi You can search in all(?) mails from August '97 to June '99. Comments and suggestions are welcome. -- Harald Westphal *** eMail: Harald.Westphal@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de *** WWW: http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Harald.Westphal/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) "Tour de France" CD-Single Date: 03 Jul 1999 16:22:54 +0100 >I don't know about the vinyl version, but the CD version is out. > >Catalogue number: EMI 7243 8 87421 0 8. Is this a German only release or is it out in the UK? Someone at a record shop told me again that EMI UK have some DATS of unfinished tracks, but it could be ballshot... ttfn -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicolau Centola Subject: (kw) TEE+TdF Date: 05 Jul 1999 11:05:20 PDT Any information about this? New Release 12 Jul 1999 Kraftwerk: Trans Europe Express (12" Vinyl) KKM5206 USA Import I got it from CDZone. Maybe a new release, considering they are releasing a "new" single... hehehe. Or just another bootleg. BTW, anybody knows which TdF version will be released in CD format? The same from 83 or a new one? TdF Analogue Version is a new one? Questions, questions... well, I just believe when I get it in my hands... peace Nicolau ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: (kw) Fw: KW Parody now available! Date: 05 Jul 1999 16:10:18 -0400 -----Original Message----- For anyone who's interested, I just found something at MP3.Com that may be of interest to the list members. It is called Die Gerrrmannz by Doodlebug Radio. It is a parody of The Robots. Look for it at my ftp site at ftp://24.7.251.51 or find it and a number of other German language songs at http://www.mp3.com/artists/27/doodlebug.html (BTW, Doodlebug is (obsolete) slang in the USA (and possibly other places) for the Volkswagen Type 1 (Beetle). Huggy Bear np: Deral Fenderson - Daddy Died In The Demolition Derby # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "angelo" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk 1 & 2 CDs at the www.ab-cd.com??? Date: 05 Jul 1999 23:47:39 -0300 Hi Werkers? Do anyone can tell me if the early albuns from Kraftwerk: KW 1 & KW2 in trade at the site ab-cd.com are good facricated albuns? Are they in g= ood quality? Are they in perfect conditions, registred form and recorder? Do anyone so purchased these albuns in this site shopp? Do anyone can give this information? Thanks!!! ... --- ----------------- //////////ANGELO///////////////////// angelo@urbi.com.br Miguel Angelo C. Pra=E7a////// http://www.urbi.com.br/users/angelo \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ICQ: 11606126 /////////////////////// --- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Ford Subject: (kw) Re: (orbital) Kraftwerk & Orbital Date: 05 Jul 1999 21:13:44 -0700 How did you learn the name of this track? It wasnt released yet was it? .matthewford. Juno Jackson wrote: > Maybe it's just me, but the new Kraftwerk song , a.k.a. "Tango" > (played next to "Airwaves" at mostly all of the comeback shows during '98), > reminds a bit of Orbital's "The Sinner". > > What do you guys think ? I know that Orbital has said that they have KW > influences. I love 'em both to death. And they both have kick-ass live shows > with tremendous visuals (I've only heard about Orbital's shows; I have to > wait until July 24th to see them). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Juno Jackson Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk & Orbital Date: 05 Jul 1999 21:08:00 PDT Maybe it's just me, but the new Kraftwerk song , a.k.a. "Tango" (played next to "Airwaves" at mostly all of the comeback shows during '98), reminds a bit of Orbital's "The Sinner". What do you guys think ? I know that Orbital has said that they have KW influences. I love 'em both to death. And they both have kick-ass live shows with tremendous visuals (I've only heard about Orbital's shows; I have to wait until July 24th to see them). Tracks np: Kraftwerk- Technopop (1983 demo version) Nirvana- Bambi Kill Slaughter OMD vs. Sash- Enola Gay Photoelectric Emission- Full Metal (Over and Out) NoiseWerker noisewerker@hotmail.com noisewerker@home.com zzyzx.8m.com ICQ #42651237 _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) Search Engine for ML Archive Date: 05 Jul 1999 22:27:40 -0600 (MDT) On Mon, 5 Jul 1999, Harald Westphal wrote: > I've written a small CGI script for searching in the mailing list archives. > You can find it at this URL: > http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~unhj/cgi-bin/search.cgi Very useful indeed, Harald. Thanks. Any chance of making earlier postings searchable? /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * Microsoft software: It may bloated, but at least it's slow. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: "Tour de France" versions (was: Re: (kw) TEE+TdF) Date: 06 Jul 1999 07:28:05 +0000 > BTW, anybody knows which TdF version will be released in CD format? The same > from 83 or a new one? The "radio version" is the single edit from 1983. The "Kling Klang Analog Mix" and the "Remix Francois K." are the 12" versions from 1984. The video soundtrack is the 1983 single edit again. All versions are the French language versions. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Erratum (was: "Tour de France" versions) Date: 06 Jul 1999 08:13:00 +0000 I wrote: > All versions are the French language versions. The soundtrack for the video actually has the German language version, not the French version. Sorry, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: "Tour de France" versions (was: Re: (kw) TEE+TdF) Date: 06 Jul 1999 01:25:39 +0000 Klaus Zaepke wrote: >All versions are the French language versions. > > Klaus Zaepke does that imply that there are non-French versions in existance? lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Re: "Tour de France" versions Date: 06 Jul 1999 08:41:20 +0200 (DFT) > >All versions are the French language versions. > > does that imply that there are non-French versions in existance? Yes, there are French and German language versions for "Tour de France". Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: RE: (kw) Sony deal and other things Date: 06 Jul 1999 10:17:39 +0200 NoiseWerker wrote: Okay, for the last time, KW is not signed to Sony Music ! IT IS =20= ONLY A PUBLISHING DEAL !!!! Kling Klang is still distributed by EMI (maybe they're still with=20= Elektra over here in the US too; does anyone know about this ?)=2E Another=20= perfect example of this would be Orbital=2E They're songs are published by=20= Sony/ATV, but they are still under contract to FFRR and London=2E Are we=20= starting to get it now ? I think you're right, I just came back from the Roskilde-festival=2E Being backstage I took the opportunity to talk to the SONY-people,=20= they hadn't heard anything about Kraftwerk signing for them, the guy said that I should check with EMI, never got thechance to do that=20= though=2E /Johan =2E=2E=2EAnd Orbital live Is great!, I was upfront at Roskilde, it was hilarious!= !! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: Re: (kw) El Lissitzky Date: 06 Jul 1999 11:49:56 +0200 At 15.40 05/07/99 +0200, Der Automat wrote: > >An exhibition of Lissitzky's photographies, films, photomontages and >graphism was inaugurated in.............. >DER AUTOMAT Thank you very much, DE(A)R AUTOMAT, for this message! I always wanted to know more about el Lissitzky, but I never had the opportunity. Once, in a bookshop here in Milan, I saw a very big volume about El Lissitzky, but it was very expensive, about 90 DM, so I prefered not to buy it, because with that money I could buy about 3 CD! Didi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Tom Stromberg WWW site Date: 06 Jul 1999 13:36:24 +0000 EXPO arts section manager Tom Stromberg has a WWW site at http://www.tom-stromberg.de. The site includes a download option for Kraftwerk's EXPO jingle in MP3 and Realaudio format (no registration required). An EXPO press folder, including one page on Kraftwerk, is also downloadable in Word format. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) EXPO Jingle scandal continues Date: 06 Jul 1999 13:36:24 +0000 The German Tax Payers Union and the German Rock & Pop Music Union have joined the NDR broadcasting corporation and the government of Lower Saxony with criticising the EXPO for paying almost half a million DM for Kraftwerk's jingle. Bernhart Zentgraf, regional secretary of the Tax Payers Union said that DM 400.000 is a lot of money for a piece that doesn't meet the taste of the wide public, and he asks why the EXPO chose a band that isn't known to the average radio and TV consumer. Ole Seelenmeyer, secretary of the German Rock & Pop Music Union stated that the price for the jingle was "murderous" and "ridiculous". Kraftwerk had earned a "mad" amount of money for almost nothing, they'll probably celebrate this deal with champagne. Seelenmeyer also critized the EXPO for not inviting entries for the jingle. This would have been a better and more democratic method, and there would have been a better chance to control the price for the jingle and its content. He assumes that many bands would have produced such a jingle free of charge. The NDR, main media partner of the EXPO, refused to use the jingle on any of its five channels. NDR spokesman Martin Reckweg said that the EXPO would have been well advised to consult radio professionals before ordering the jingle. NDR employees called the jingle a "useless sound mish-mash", the DM 400.000 were wasted money. Volker Benke, deputy government spokesman of Lower Saxony said that the government wouldn't use the jingle for their telephone wait loops, since the jingle would scare callers. He also thinks that the jingle was very expensive, especially since the radio stations don't use it. EXPO arts section manager Stromberg defended the high price by pointing out that it includes the worldwide rights for the piece. He announced a longer and more melodic version of the jingle for the late summer, and he hopes that the new versions meets the standards for the governmental telephone wait loops. More info can be found in today's Berliner Zeitung (http://www.BerlinOnline.de/aktuelles/berliner_zeitung/vermischtes/.h tml/2artik01.html) or in today's Die Welt (http://www.welt.de/daten/1999/07/06/0706wi120367.htx) or in various other German newspapers. I wonder if the EXPO is going to pay another DM 400.000 for this second, "melodic" jingle... :-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Sony signs Kling-Klang Date: 06 Jul 1999 13:36:24 +0000 > Quoted from www.musikwoche.de: > Mit einer "kraeftigen Portion Stolz" vermeldet Mike Weller, Managing > Director/GSA des Musikverlags Sony/ATV Germany, das Zustandekommen > eines weltweiten Verlagsvertrags mit Ralf Huetter und Florian Schneider > von der Gruppe Kraftwerk und ihrem Klingklang Musikverlag: "Die > Entscheidung von Kraftwerk, mit Sony/ATV zu kooperieren, ist fuer unser > Unternehmen ein Meilenstein. Kraftwerk als Gesamtkunstwerk ist musikalisch > gesehen mit Sicherheit einer der wichtigsten Einfluesse, die der > internationalen Populaermusik je aus Deutschland zuteil wurden. Um > so mehr darf man auf das in naher Zukunft zu erwartende neue Studio-Album > der Elektronik Kuenstler gespannt sein." > > Abstract: > Sony/ATV Germany signed Kraftwerk's Kling-Klang Musikverlag for a > worldwide author-publisher contract. > According to Sony Manager Mike Weller, Kraftwerk will release a new > studio album "in the near future". The same article is also published in the current printed edition of the Musikwoche magazine, but there's one significant difference: The printed version places the second quotation mark after "wurden", not after "sein", as the online version did. This means that the part about the forthcoming new Kraftwerk album was not an announcement from the Sony/ATV management, but mere speculation from the journalist. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: "Tour de France" versions (was: Re: (kw) TEE+TdF) Date: 06 Jul 1999 14:33:41 +0200 On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 07:28:05 +0000, Klaus Zaepke wrote: >The "Kling Klang Analog Mix" and the "Remix Francois K." are the >12" versions from 1984. So, I suspect there is one 12" version oter than these two. It is really diferent # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO Jingle scandal continues Date: 06 Jul 1999 15:17:59 +0200 At 13.36 06/07/99 +0000, Klaus Zaepke wrote: >I wonder if the EXPO is going to pay another DM 400.000 for this >second, "melodic" jingle... :-) > > Klaus Zaepke If they had 400.000 DM for a 20 second jingle, perhaps to see a 60 minuts album we should pay KW 120.000.000 DM !!!!! Didi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred_Harding@idx.com Subject: (kw) remastered radio,trans,machine.,.. Date: 06 Jul 1999 09:19:19 -0400 i got the remastered versions (on capitol) from cd now - i've heard folks on the list complain about certain details (vocals come in at odd times, etc), none of which i noticed, but i'm not all that astute about that kind of thing. i had previously owned the cleopatra releases of the above mentioned titles, and at the very least thought the art work was kind of lousy, and had always wondered if they weren't less than stellar in quality, since the art had a certain "knock off" look about it. anyhoo, i can't say for certain that the remastered versions are any better, but if you don't have the cds to begin with, it isn't a bad idea to just get them - i don't believe they cost any more than the "unremastered" (for lack of a better word!) versions. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO Jingle scandal continues Date: 06 Jul 1999 15:17:59 +0200 At 13.36 06/07/99 +0000, Klaus Zaepke wrote: >I wonder if the EXPO is going to pay another DM 400.000 for this >second, "melodic" jingle... :-) > > Klaus Zaepke If they had 400.000 DM for a 20 second jingle, perhaps to see a 60 minuts album we should pay KW 120.000.000 DM !!!!! Didi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) EXPO Jingle scandal continues Date: 06 Jul 1999 15:57:10 +0200 That's a bit more than needed; with that price/second it would rather be 48 M DM. Calculating with some price-reduction due to large volume (3600 seconds compared to 30) I say some 30 M DM would do the trick. Seriously: This is indeed much more money than KW would ever get for a record. This together with the new merchandising seen on TicketWorld would perhaps indicate that KW has found themselves a new way of making money; which unfortunately do not include making new records... /Joakim -----Original Message----- ...60 minuts album we should pay KW 120.000.000 DM !!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Re: "Tour de France" versions Date: 06 Jul 1999 18:02:44 +0000 > >The "Kling Klang Analog Mix" and the "Remix Francois K." are the > >12" versions from 1984. > > So, I suspect there is one 12" version oter than these two. > It is really diferent Which version do you mean exactly? Of course there is another 12" version, but this is from 1983. Aside from semi-official DJ mixes and unofficial bootleg versions, there are indeed only two French language 12" versions from 1984, at least AFAIK. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phaethon0@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk & Orbital Date: 06 Jul 1999 12:17:14 EDT I always thought the very beginning of the so-called "Tango" song sounds very similar to the quiet part of Orbital's famous "Satan" although I can see the similarities with "The Sinner" as well. But KW ripping off Orbital is kind of like David Bowie ripping off Nine Inch Nails; it happens, but the other artist has ripped off much more! In any case, both KW and Orbital have made tremendous contributions to electronic music. The similarities aren't surprising: Orbital has always been described as what KW would sound like if they still made new music with new equipment. Another thing: I haven't heard anyone mention it yet, but I'm sure some people on the list already know: "Music: Response" off the new Chemical Brothers album is almost a full-fledged tribute to Kraftwerk, complete with vocoder and ancient-sounding cheesy synth sounds. Still has the Chem. Bros. beat though. -ericg- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nicolau Centola Subject: (kw) TdF Date: 06 Jul 1999 06:33:05 PDT Just another information about new TdF release at CDZOne: Tour De FranceImport Barcode 0724388742160 10" Tour De FranceImport Barcode 0724388742108 10" Tour De FranceGerman Import 8874212 CDS Tour De FranceGerman Import 8874216 12" The question is: was it released in 10" format? Strange, uh? According Klaus, the two numbers (2160 and 2108) are related to the single format (12" and CD)... So why they appear like 10"? The 4212 is the CD+video version? Anyway, I ordered the two 10" plus the CDS... peace Nicolau ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Compute Subject: (kw) The Chemical Brothers Date: 06 Jul 1999 13:56:12 GMT Has anyone had the opportunity to listen to the new Chemical Brothers album, "Surrender"? How many people think that it sounds very 80's like, especially the first track "music:response" which is very Kraftwerky! dj.compute ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fernando Subject: Re: (kw) The Chemical Brothers Date: 06 Jul 1999 10:45:54 -0700 At 6:56 AM -0700 06.07.99, DJ Compute wrote: >Has anyone had the opportunity to listen to the new Chemical Brothers album, >"Surrender"? > >How many people think that it sounds very 80's like, especially the first >track "music:response" which is very Kraftwerky! That track plus Orbital's Style CD1 sounds like KW very much... I played it to a friend as KW new single and no questions were asked. On the ChemBros... yes, very 80s in feel, and Out OfControl with the vocals by Bernard and the sampling/merge of NewOrder's Everything'sGoneGreen and Temptation further creates that feel. Still, both are very enjoyable albums. -fernando # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: karl wettin Subject: RE: (kw) The Chemical Brothers Date: 06 Jul 1999 20:06:10 +0200 How many people think that it sounds very 80's like, especially the first track "music:response" which is very Kraftwerky! i saw them live just a few days ago. damn, they sure know what its all about. karl. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeroen de Haan" Subject: (kw) Francois Kevork Date: 06 Jul 1999 19:44:03 +0200 Hi, Does anyone know anything about Francois Kevork? I knew a girl how claimed her french boyfriend (possibly Francois) once remixed a version of TdF and/or met Kraftwerk while she lived in Paris. I searched with Apple's Sherlock but couldn't find anything about him... Jeroen -- MONEY: People will do odd things if you give them money. When everything is worth money, then money is worth nothing. If you keep your money in your shoe, then people will know which bills are yours. Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Henrik Olsson Subject: (kw) Bootlegs Date: 06 Jul 1999 20:15:39 -0500 If anyone knows where to find Kraftwerk bootlegs in Stockholm, please mail me privately. Thanks, Henrik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeroen de Haan" Subject: Re: (kw) vocoders Date: 06 Jul 1999 20:22:17 +0200 Hi Ann, Surf to http://bunji.realitycom.com/Kilo4-3/synth/PC-330.cfm for info about the F.A.T. PC-330. It will cost you about 300 English Pounds. Good luck! Jeroen -- LIVING WITH OTHER PEOPLE: Voilence on television only affects children whose parents act like television personalities. Table manners are for people who have nothing better to do. Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Muzik on Kraftwerk Date: 06 Jul 1999 20:35:05 +0000 Issue 50 of Muzik features a brief review of Kraftwerk's "Trans Europe Express", as part of an article about influential pop albums. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) TdF Date: 06 Jul 1999 20:35:05 +0000 > Just another information about new TdF release at CDZOne: > Tour De FranceImport Barcode 0724388742160 10" > Tour De FranceImport Barcode 0724388742108 10" > Tour De FranceGerman Import 8874212 CDS > Tour De FranceGerman Import 8874216 12" > > The question is: was it released in 10" format? No, at least not officially. Of course there might be 10" promos (unlikely!), but certainly not with these barcode numbers. > According Klaus, the two numbers (2160 and 2108) are related to the single > format (12" and CD)... So why they appear like 10"? Catalogue mistake? > The 4212 is the CD+video version? No. It might be the version without the video, but it seems that this version was cancelled or put back. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk & Orbital Date: 06 Jul 1999 20:35:05 +0000 > I always thought the very beginning of the so-called "Tango" song sounds very > similar to the quiet part of Orbital's famous "Satan" although I can see the > similarities with "The Sinner" as well. But KW ripping off Orbital is kind of > like David Bowie ripping off Nine Inch Nails; it happens, but the other > artist has ripped off much more! Speaking of Kraftwerk's "Tango" ripping off Orbital: I seem to remember that Orbital have used a very similar "oscillation" concert video accompaniment prior to Kraftwerk's "Airwave (Tango)" video. Is this correct? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Francois Kevorkian Date: 06 Jul 1999 11:55:24 -0700 >Jeroen wrote: >Does anyone know anything about Francois Kevork? QA extract from: http://www.beatsezine.com/interview/interview.html "F.A. What the future for Wave in the short run? F.K. [... I want to try to fuse more the so-called ethnic music and Techno sounds with this specific programming technic. I love Detroit techno, I give a lot of respect to artist like Carl Craig, but I'd like to push things more. Leave the cage in which this music has been imprisoned. I'm talking about the absence of groove, this "Kraftwerkian" change in taste in the 90's. That's why I'm in New York, because of the crossing of African & Latin cultures, and the connection to Jazz...] F.A. Will you stay as involved in the production of other artists? F.K. Oh yes, why stop? I like keeping that contact with the industry and business. Knowing what others are coming out with. I've always liked working with different people. F.A. Would you consider working with Kraftwerk? F.K. No comment. I haven't had many opportunities to work with Europeans lately, but you never know." Jeroen, here's another FK site (not much info in there, though) http://housemusic.net/FRANCOISKEVORKIAN.htm KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) AB-CD Date: 06 Jul 1999 12:11:12 -0700 >angelo wrote: >Do anyone so purchased these albuns in this site shopp? >Do anyone can give this information? Yes, I have purchased stuff from AB-CD and I must say that their CD's are not in 100% pristine condition. Some of them were previously opened, and their cases, a bit scratched; but their www business is quite reliable otherwise. KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Kling Klang Klong Klung Date: 06 Jul 1999 12:35:24 -0700 Enrique: > TR Europe (it's funny, but they credited as a "Kling Klang" release): Klaus: >It *is* a Kling Klang release, so what's so funny about it? I stand corrected, KZ. Everything's sounds funny before a three day weekend! I got a bit over-excited there! Next time I'll write: it's funny, but TRE credited the release to the Kling Klang (not EMI) *Label*. KWandKlaus4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Kling Klang Klong Klung Date: 06 Jul 1999 22:03:19 +0000 > Enrique: > > TR Europe (it's funny, but they credited as a "Kling Klang" release): > Klaus: > >It *is* a Kling Klang release, so what's so funny about it? > > I stand corrected, KZ. > Everything's sounds funny before a three day weekend! I got a bit > over-excited there! > Next time I'll write: it's funny, but TRE credited the release to the Kling > Klang (not EMI) *Label*. Well, the release *is* on the Kling Klang *label*, so what's so funny about it? :-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) Kling Klang Klong Klung Date: 06 Jul 1999 13:56:46 -0700 >Klaus Zaepke wrote: >Well, the release *is* on the Kling Klang *label*, so what's so funny about it? :-) Me keep getting it wrong, that's what's funny! My 4th of July hangover isn't though... hic! :o) KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phaethon0@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) The Chemical Brothers Date: 06 Jul 1999 17:35:36 EDT >How many people think that it sounds very 80's like, especially the first >track "music:response" which is very Kraftwerky! My micro-review: The new Chemical Brothers album is a mish-mash of 60's psychadelica, 70's funk and proto-electro (like KW), 80's hip-hop and club music, and 90's big beat. Which is to say that it's like every other Chemical Brothers album. To me, this time the focus seems to be on the 60s psychadelica though. There's lots of nostaglia for the English Summers of Love in the late 80s. There's less big dance-floor noise and the album is slower and more varied than "Dig Your Own Hole". There are obvious homages to Kraftwerk (Music: Response) and the Beatles (Let Forever Be) and members of Mazzy Star, New Order, Primal Scream are allowed to contribute so the Brothers can show who their other pals and heroes are. If you took records from every genre from every decade of the past 30 years and put them in a blender, the result might sound like "Surrender." I would still say it's a late 90's sounding album, even though its textures come from everywhere. >That track plus Orbital's Style CD1 sounds like KW very much... I played it >to a friend as KW new single and no questions were asked. The version of "Style" on the single is much better and more complete sounding than the version on the "Middle of Nowehere" LP (at least if I remember correctly!). Definately a little KW influence, mostly though I think it was just an Orbital experiment with an old stylophone. Get both CDs of that single; those 6 tracks are better than the 8 tracks on Orbital's LP!! (unfortunately it's an import for we Americans) Unlike the Chem Bros, Orbital's main influence throughout all their music seems to be limited to just Kraftwerk and Detroit techno (and maybe some drum n' bass more recently). -ericg- "it's more fun to compute!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Juno Jackson Subject: (kw) A better concert than Community Service would be ... Date: 06 Jul 1999 16:28:24 PDT In my opinion, this would the bomb-ass line up to end all bomb-ass line ups : Kraftwerk Art of Noise (with J.J. and Gary back along with everyone else) Yello Orbital 808 State Pet Shop Boys Vangelis Jean-Michel Jarre Zapp & Roger (if they were still here with us, God Bless them) Tangerine Dream Underworld Kitaro Mickey Hart/Planet Drum Orb Depeche Mode Shannon (wasn't "Let The Music Play" one of the first acid tracks ? Of course many wouldn't agree, but 1984 is obviously earlier than the 2nd summer of love in 1988.) Anyone else want to add to the list ? NoiseWerker noisewerker@hotmail.com noisewerker@home.com zzyzx.com ICQ # 42651237 _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fanno, Jeff" Subject: (kw) RE: (orbital) A better concert than Community Service would be .. Date: 06 Jul 1999 16:31:49 -0700 > In my opinion, this would the bomb-ass line up to end all bomb-ass > line ups : > > > Kraftwerk > Art of Noise (with J.J. and Gary back along with everyone else) > Yello > Orbital > 808 State > Pet Shop Boys > Vangelis > Jean-Michel Jarre > Zapp & Roger (if they were still here with us, God Bless them) > Tangerine Dream > Underworld > Kitaro > Mickey Hart/Planet Drum > Orb > Depeche Mode > Shannon (wasn't "Let The Music Play" one of the first acid > > tracks ? Of course many wouldn't agree, but 1984 is > > obviously earlier than the 2nd summer of love in 1988.) > > Anyone else want to add to the list ? > How about FSOL, Cocteau Twins, Aphex Twin? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Easy money Date: 06 Jul 1999 16:45:23 -0700 >lenny g wrote: >anyway, that's business for you. Kraftwerk make art, and businessmen and >most importantly taxpayers and investors say it's crap! As much as I do love KW, I feel the same way they do in Germany about spending that much money for any jingle at all. Specially if it's for that effortless piece of *art*. KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) The Chinese Connection Date: 06 Jul 1999 16:46:41 -0700 >Klaus wrote: >"Musical Chinese water torture, occasionally passable as background >but generally irritating." (Rolling Stone) >"The synthesizer sounds are pretty Mickey Mouse [...]. The lyrics, >meanwhile, must be a joke." (Sounds) IMHO, yes there's a whole bunch of KW tunes that have childish Oriental melodies. Why not admit that "The Man Machine", "The Model", "Tour de France", "The Robots", among many others, have an unmistakable "Chinese -infantile- connection"? No matter what, I still love them bastards! KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Flea market Date: 06 Jul 1999 16:52:17 -0700 >/Joakim wrote: >Seriously: This is indeed much more money than KW would ever get for a >record. This together with the new merchandising seen on TicketWorld would >perhaps indicate that KW has found themselves a new way of making money; >which unfortunately do not include making new records... I agree with you, 100%. What's with them? Playing hide and seek for over a decade and then, all of the sudden offering cheap crap like skateboards, and expensive & useless mousepads? Get real Ralf & Florian. This is the 1999's. There's got to be better ways to make money than by fooling some EXPO guys or by selling boards to X-treme kids. Is it for this kind of stuff that you guys needed *time*? You've already replaced your showroom dummies, and pocket calculators with the latest in high tech gadgets, but please, USE THEM, before the new guys get bored of acting weird and leave like Karl and Wolfgang did. For crying out loud, take a look at us. We're your fans, and all we've been doing is arguing about record labels/stores, dreaming team concert line-ups, and evaluating others bands against KW. Pretty pathetic. KW4EVER? Sure KW4F*#@ingEVER! what the hell! ;-) Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phaethon0@aol.com Subject: (kw) Tour de France on eBay Date: 06 Jul 1999 23:20:18 EDT haha, the Tour de France CD single has been bid up to $51 on eBay!! Someone must be totally clueless about the re-release and the fact that you can get it at Tower Records online for 10 bucks.... just goes to show you that it helps to be on the mailing list!! Gee, maybe I should start offering.... The CD being offered is indeed 1999 and not 1983, so someone's making a healthy profit off of this... Do you think this is budding entrepreneurism or shameless swindling? Personally, I would have to blame the bidder, who should have done his homework! -ericg- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nate Ward Subject: (kw) Flea(Flensburg?) Market Date: 07 Jul 1999 00:32:55 -0400 >/Joakim wrote: >Seriously: This is indeed much more money than KW would ever get for a >record. This together with the new merchandising seen on TicketWorld would >perhaps indicate that KW has found themselves a new way of making money; >which unfortunately do not include making new records... I agree with you, 100%. What's with them? Playing hide and seek for over a decade and then, all of the sudden offering cheap crap like skateboards, and expensive & useless mousepads? Get real Ralf & Florian. This is the 1999's ********************************************************* The only Kraftwerk merchandise I am interested in ever seeing is a pocket calculator that plays a certain little melody. Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Tour de France on eBay Date: 07 Jul 1999 00:43:27 EDT I saw that too. The fact that it was a reissue was very clear. I had a good chuckle. Sam Paterson traffic cone # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) A better concert than Community Service would be ... Date: 07 Jul 1999 00:51:48 EDT < add to the list: Faust Ice Cube David Bowie Brian Eno Bryan Ferry Isaac Hayes Gary Numan Sonic Youth Cluster Syd Barrett (I so wish) Jimi Tenor I could go on... Sam Paterson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) A better concert than Community Service would be ... Date: 07 Jul 1999 00:35:56 +0000 yes, add Isao Tomita, Wendy Carlos, and Wesley Willis and then we are in business! lenny g Juno Jackson wrote: > > In my opinion, this would the bomb-ass line up to end all bomb-ass >line ups : > > > Kraftwerk > Art of Noise (with J.J. and Gary back along with everyone else) > Yello > Orbital > 808 State > Pet Shop Boys > Vangelis > Jean-Michel Jarre > Zapp & Roger (if they were still here with us, God Bless them) > Tangerine Dream > Underworld > Kitaro > Mickey Hart/Planet Drum > Orb > Depeche Mode > Shannon (wasn't "Let The Music Play" one of the first acid > tracks ? Of course many wouldn't agree, but 1984 is >obviously earlier than the 2nd summer of love in 1988.) > > Anyone else want to add to the list ? > > NoiseWerker # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) Easy money Date: 07 Jul 1999 02:16:36 +0000 >>lenny g wrote: >>anyway, that's business for you. Kraftwerk make art, and businessmen and >>most importantly taxpayers and investors say it's crap! >Enrique Correa wrote: >As much as I do love KW, I feel the same way they do in Germany about >spending that much money for any jingle at all. Specially if it's for that >effortless piece of *art*. but you can not possibly say that KW are to blame for their jingle. i agree with Klaus Zaepke that the EXPO2000 should look (or should have looked) for a new arts section manager. he is to blame, for not researching and getting background on KW before paying them the money. if he (or anyone else for that matter) expected a jingle that is happy and bouncy, progressive and modern, sophisticated and yet still speaks to every demographic all at once and includes acoustic drums, a horn section, a marimba and the Vienna boys choir, then the EXPO arts section manager is either insane, or a total fuck-up and should not have the position he holds. i think Kraftwerk did exactly what they were paid for, it's classic, it's modern, it's EXPO2000, or have we all forgotten World's Fair 1958 when Edgar Varese presented "Poemme Electronique" musique concrete installation, live and on tape. As one would walk through the Netherlands pavillion, all around one would pass tape machines (of ree-to-reel variety) playing loops of tape some just a second or two long, some stretching out into several minutes. all sounds electronically created by Edgar Varese for the sole purpose of live presentation at the World's Fair 1958 in Bruxelles. So how have Kraftwerk wronged here is beyond me. i understand how those list members who live in Germany might be upset about the amount of money spent by the EXPO2000 arts section manager on the jingle, but i can not see how any of you can blame Kraftwerk for accepting the money for the work they did. once again, it is the arts section manager who should have either supervised their progress or found a different source (other than Kraftwerk) to produce a jingle. anyway, i like the jingle. if i was a DJ i'd remix it. thankfully i am not, but i am sure there are about 400,000 DJ out there who would jump at the opportunity. of coarse they would have to deal with the idoit arts section manager at EXPO2000 if they ever decide to release their remix. seriously, lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) x+n/Chicago Date: 07 Jul 1999 02:30:33 +0000 hello, add n to x are currently on their world tour, check out www.mutelibtech.com for dates and places and the bands website www.addntox.com. they were on CBC a few days ago doing an interview and mentioned Kraftwerk. they said that they are trying to draw a line where machine ends and man begins in their music, where as Kraftwerk were trying to blur that line and create a man-machine symbiosis. anyway, it looks like i'll be going to Chicago to catch Add N to X (with Atari Teenage Riot and Don Cabalero) at the Metro on July 22. i've only been to Chicago once before, and don't remember much. if someone can recommend a few good record stores, and maybe a nice cheap place to stay. i remember going to Gramaphone Records and Second Hand Records, somewhere not to far from Wrigley field, and i guess the Metro is just down the street from it. anyway, anything anyone can suggest is welcome. also, does anyone know who Don Cabalero is (not the guy in a wheelchair from SCTV, that's Guy Cabalero). i guess if he is on the same bill as ATR and Add N to X, his music must be similar, but i never heard of him. thanks all in advance, lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: German Chancellor criticizes EXPO Jingle (was: Re: (kw) EXPO Jin Date: 07 Jul 1999 09:39:45 +0000 > The German Tax Payers Union and the German Rock & Pop Music > Union have joined the NDR broadcasting corporation and the government > of Lower Saxony with criticising the EXPO for paying almost half a > million DM for Kraftwerk's jingle. German Federal Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder joined the club of EXPO jingle critics yesterday. According to todays Hamburger Morgenpost, the Chancellor was shocked and didn't trust his ears when hearing the jingle, which the Morgenpost calls a "botch". Schroeder said that he wouldn't have paid so much money for something like that. EXPO manager Birgit Breuel defended the jingle by calling it a "courageous artistic production". She is convinced that the commercialization rights for the jingle will compensate its costs. The article (German language) is online at http://www.mopo.de/seiten/19990707/nachrichten-artikel15.html Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Major Kraftwerk update at emimusic.de Date: 07 Jul 1999 11:31:17 +0200 (DFT) The Kraftwerk pages at www.emimusic.de were updated and include now a newspage, the "Tour de France" promo video (Realaudio format), a guestbook, a competition, the option to send a virtual postcard, a small discography and a link to the Tour de France webpages. That's more Kraftwerk content as on kraftwerk.com! ;-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: Re: (kw) RE: (orbital) A better concert than Community Service Date: 07 Jul 1999 11:39:58 +0200 At 16.31 06/07/99 -0700, Fanno, Jeff wrote: >> In my opinion, this would the bomb-ass line up to end all bomb-ass >> line ups : >> >> Kraftwerk >> Art of Noise (with J.J. and Gary back along with everyone else) >> Yello >> Orbital >> 808 State >> Pet Shop Boys >> Vangelis >> Jean-Michel Jarre >> Zapp & Roger (if they were still here with us, God Bless them) >> Tangerine Dream >> Underworld >> Kitaro >> Mickey Hart/Planet Drum >> Orb >> Depeche Mode >> Shannon (wasn't "Let The Music Play" one of the first acid >> tracks ? Of course many wouldn't agree, but 1984 is >> obviously earlier than the 2nd summer of love in 1988.) >> Anyone else want to add to the list ? >> > How about FSOL, Cocteau Twins, Aphex Twin? I consider Shannon's "Let the music play" as one of the best dance songs ever. I would add to your list the following bands/authors: -Higher Intelligence Agency -Orb -Rockets -Vince Clarke -Software -Spacetime Continuum Didi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Still more about the EXPO Jingle scandal Date: 07 Jul 1999 14:32:58 +0000 Todays Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung reports that the German radio station NDR 2 produced two parody versions of Kraftwerk's EXPO jingle - within less than thirty minutes, as NDR spokesman Martin Gartzke stated. The parodies were broadcast yesterday with the motto "We're doing this free of charge". It was also pointed out that the usual price for a package of 10-15 radio jingles is less than DM 100.000, including all rights. Meanwhile, the Green party announced that they consider to make the EXPO management responsible for wasting money. > EXPO manager Birgit Breuel defended the jingle by calling it a > "courageous artistic production". According to the Neue Presse, she also called it "a new creative and controversial conception". The EXPO's intention was to open new musical ways on the threshold to the 21st century. Critics responded that this "musical way" was not really new, since the use of computerized voices in music was already common practice in the 1970ies... Birgit Breuel also announced new merchandise: A Twipsy (EXPO mascot) puppet, capable of speaking the EXPO jingle. IMHO it's nice to know that Breuel found such a decent way to present the piece, suitable to a "courageous artistic production that opens the way into the 21st century"! :-) Some German online papers illustrate their EXPO jingle reports with a Kraftwerk live photo from 1998: http://deb.westline.de/welt/nachrichten/boulevard/ kraftwerk0706082808.html. > German Federal Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder joined the club of EXPO > jingle critics yesterday. According to todays Hamburger Morgenpost, > the Chancellor was shocked and didn't trust his ears when hearing > the jingle, which the Morgenpost calls a "botch". Schroeder said > that he wouldn't have paid so much money for something like that. According to todays Neue Presse, he also stated that it's right that the press criticizes the jingle and its price, there are good reasons for such criticism. The Neue Presse also published a rewiew of the EXPO jingle, which is online at http://np1.niedersachsen.com/NP/LOKA/story22538.html Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Tour De France Suppliers Date: 07 Jul 1999 13:21:39 +0100 Dear Friends, Particularly us sorry fans in England that are having a hard time finding TDF. The wonderful Esprit Mail order will be stocking the CD single. Get there by clicking http://eil.com Please be patient. It might take a day to appear on their database. Still you can look at all the other Kraftwerk goodies on their site while you are waiting. Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Expoeme Date: 07 Jul 1999 14:14:47 +0100 Klaus Zaepke wrote: >German Federal Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder joined the club of EXPO >jingle critics yesterday. >According to todays Hamburger Morgenpost, the Chancellor was >shocked and didn't trust his ears when hearing the jingle, which >the Morgenpost calls a "botch". Schroeder said that he wouldn't >have paid so much money for something like that. He did? Seriously?! A strange thing for the chancellor to comment on... But I have to say, either Ralf & Florian have lost all their critical faculties, or they "took the money and ran". Their jingles are a pathetic effort. 47 wrote: >i think Kraftwerk did exactly what they were paid for, it's >classic, it's modern, it's EXPO2000, or have we all forgotten World's Fair >1958 when Edgar Varese presented "Poemme Electronique" musique concrete >installation, live and on tape. Comparing a bored voice saying "Expo 2000" into a vocoder to 'Poeme Electronique' is, IMAO, absurd. >if i was >a DJ i'd remix it. Into what? "2000 Expo"? "Ex 2000 po"? :-D > thankfully i am not, but i am sure there are about >400,000 DJ out there who would jump at the opportunity. of coarse they >would have to deal with the idoit arts section manager at EXPO2000 if they >ever decide to release their remix. If he's an idiot, it's for paying Kraftwerk, not for commisioning them. I'm sure he expected them to expend some effort and come up with something worthwhile. I did! Huggy Bear wrote: >(BTW, Doodlebug is (obsolete) slang in the USA (and possibly other places) >for the Volkswagen Type 1 (Beetle). It also means an ant lion larva, a divining rod and a V2 rocket bomb. Funny word... Geoff Watson wrote: >Any list members going to see the Residents in London on July 19th? I would, but I refuse to pay Ticketmaster their exorbitant "handling charges" and rip-off "postage and packing" prices. If you know of another mail order source of tickets, I'd be very pleased to hear of it! Regards KB -- Genetically engineered/corrupted Nature: the world ends for a fast buck. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Expo jingle Date: 07 Jul 1999 14:17:52 +0100 Klaus has been keeping us up to date with the jingle scandal:- All great art has the capacity to cause controversy. Remember R. Mutt (Marcel Duchamp) and his Urinal, Stravisnsky and the riots caused by his Firebird suite. Both of these events were mis-understood at the time. Both helped to change the very concept of Art in the 20th. I'm not suggesting that this jingle- which I think is very good- is high art- but it does manage to sit outside popular parameters and conceptions of what is current. It manages to be both futuristic and steeped in nostalgia at the same time. As for Radio stations parodying the jingle- Well bad publicity is better than none at all. If it introduces Kraftwerk to a younger generation then all well and good. This jingle will not sound dated in 20 years time. Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) More on the jingle Date: 07 Jul 1999 14:25:01 +0100 Kevin Busby say's If he was a DJ he'd remix it. He's made a good point. Listen to the amalgameted 8 second jingle and take note of the note structure. If you ask me this piece is likely to turn up as a full blown Kraftwerk track, celebrating as usual technology and the future. Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: (kw) Still more about the EXPO Jingle scandal Date: 07 Jul 1999 15:48:02 +0200 >Klaus Zaepke wrote: >...Some German online papers illustrate their EXPO jingle reports... The debate always get out of control when false information/desinformation comes into circulation. The quoted online paper states the jingle to be 3 seconds, which of course may upset people - 400.000 DM for 3 seconds!!! /Joakim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTOPH_MARQUARDT@HP-Germany-om9.om.hp.com Subject: RE: German Chancellor criticizes EXPO Jingle (was: Re: (kw) EXPO Jin Date: 07 Jul 1999 15:52:58 +0200 Haaah.. I think this is one of the best things that could have ever happened to the boyz.. imagine.. everybody is talking about them, even the German chancellor. They are getting a great advertising campaign for free! And quite some money with it too. This is just the right amount of publicity to prepare for a great comeback (okay okay, they were never really gone for us..) One interesting thing mentioned in this article is that "EXPO2000 arts section manager Tom Stromberg promised a more 'melodic' long version of the jingle" So what is Stromberg going to do about it? Will Kraftwerk be paid another bucket of $$$ to remix their own jingle to a "melodic long version"? Will Stromberg hand the current material to some unknown remixer? He sure can do that as Expo2000 has the rights to the jingles. Well, let's see what happens.. .. hey! I've got an idea. Let's vote for Mr. Schroeder (german chancellor) to do the remix :)) Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTOPH_MARQUARDT@HP-Germany-om9.om.hp.com Subject: RE: (kw) Expo jingle Date: 07 Jul 1999 16:05:06 +0200 Paul.Martland@paulmartland.demon.co.uk wrote: > All great art has the capacity to cause controversy. [snip] > As for Radio stations parodying the jingle- Well bad > publicity is better than none at all. If it introduces > Kraftwerk to a younger generation then all well and good. > > This jingle will not sound dated in 20 years time. Paul, you are speaking out my thoughts! There's nothing I could add to that statement. Thanks, Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: RE: German Chancellor criticizes EXPO Jingle (was: Re: (kw) Date: 07 Jul 1999 10:19:39 CHRISTOPH_MARQUARDT@HP-Germany-om9.om.hp.com wrote: >So what is Stromberg going to do about it? Will Kraftwerk be >paid another bucket of $$$ to remix their own jingle to a "melodic >long version"? Be careful, if you start putting ideas like that into their heads, don't be surprised when the new KW album finally surfaces later in the year and all it'll contain will be 9 different remixes of the EXPO jingle. :-) I suppose somebody out there would enjoy that too though. hehe nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Tour de France on eBay Date: 07 Jul 1999 10:20:41 EDT In a message dated 7/6/99 9:47:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Greyseason@AOL.COM writes: << I saw that too. The fact that it was a reissue was very clear. I had a good chuckle. >> I wrote to the ones bidding on it and told them the huge profit the seller is making off them. Hate to see people ripped off.....even if they should have known. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SRRecords@aol.com Subject: RE: (kw) Expo jingle Date: 07 Jul 1999 10:21:53 EDT <> I can - I think the jingle sounds like it's dated from the 1970's. So in 20 years, it will sound like it's 40+ years old. Frankly, it's not worth they money it generated - I could do the same thing where I'm sitting in about 30 seconds. It's interesting and I like it - but I don't think it's particularly innovative as it stands. Perhaps as a jingle, though I don't know how much vocoder usage is in jingles these days.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: RE: (kw) Expo jingle Date: 07 Jul 1999 16:53:52 +0000 > From: "Paul Martland" > > It manages to be both futuristic and steeped in nostalgia at the same time. I can see the nostalgic aspects, but what's so futuristic about speaking a few words into a vocoder? > From: CHRISTOPH_MARQUARDT@HP-Germany-om9.om.hp.com > > > This jingle will not sound dated in 20 years time. > > Paul, you are speaking out my thoughts! > There's nothing I could add to that statement. The Hannoversche Allgemeine noted that the jingle already sounds dated today, since Kraftwerk and many others have already used the very same techniques in the mid-1970ies. > From: "Svensson, Joakim" > > The debate always get out of control when false > information/desinformation comes into circulation. The quoted online > paper states the jingle to be 3 seconds, which of course may upset > people - 400.000 DM for 3 seconds!!! If the six language versions are seen as six variations of one jingle (and that's the way how the EXPO advertises the jingle), then 3 seconds is fairly correct. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "precision_lies" Subject: (kw) EXPO Jingle scandal continues Date: 07 Jul 1999 04:36:56 -0400 Klaus Zaepke wrote: >The German Tax Payers Union and the German Rock & Pop Music >Union have joined the NDR broadcasting corporation and the government >of Lower Saxony with criticising the EXPO for paying almost half a >million DM for Kraftwerk's jingle. Thanks Klaus for keeping us updated on the jingle scandal. Having just heard it for the first time, I wonder whether Ralf and Florian are trying to perpetrate a Malcom McLaren inspired Rock 'N Roll Swindle or if it's just a case of them carrying their minimalism too far. Having done vocoder-only pieces before like "The Voice of Energy" or the Doepfer demonstration track maybe they assumed that this would be accepted as well. The difference here, of course, is that they received 400,000 DM for this jingle. But had they added some "Musique Non Stop" beats to it and a six note melody would it then be worth 400,000 DM? The next logical step for them is to release a new album that simply consists of a vocoded voice repeating "This is the new Kraftwerk album" in different languages for one hour. -Mike F. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonMalis@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) AB-CD Date: 07 Jul 1999 11:23:31 EDT In a message dated 7/6/99 9:14:04 PM, ENRIQUEC@heraeusmtd.com writes: >>Do anyone so purchased these albuns in this site shopp? >>Do anyone can give this information? > >Yes, I have purchased stuff from AB-CD and I must say that their CD's are >not in 100% pristine condition. Some of them were previously opened, and >their cases, a bit scratched; but their www business is quite reliable >otherwise. A few months ago, I bought a CD from them and had no trouble at all. It arrived in a few days in pristine condition, without any of the openings or scratches that Enrique mentioned. In fact, there are a few albums that I will be ordering from them when I get back to the states (I'm on vacation in Europe for a few weeks) -Jon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Expo jingle Date: 07 Jul 1999 16:02:28 +0200 Paul Martland wrote: > All great art has the capacity to cause controversy. Remember R. Mutt > (Marcel Duchamp) and his Urinal, Stravisnsky and the riots caused by his Paul, if it was an italian affair everybody would have thought: "ok, another case of people stealing public money: they'll do half and half as it always happen here". please mind that the scandal is not about the jingle in itself but for the amount of public money it was paid with. Duchamp and others just made a living out of their controversial art, and there was no public funding for them, not at that level. and if art is controversy, what should we do, have it paid by the State? it's a contradiction. and then I want to be a controversial artist too... l'et's quit this boring job I'm doing. let's make it clear: when art is funded by te State it is just because the artist has a good public relation capacity. he/she is a bitch, if you want my straight opinion. I am fed up to work hard 10 hours per day and pay 53% of my incomes in taxes and to see that it's used to favourite some politics' artist cousin or friend or fiancee or what is here. real artist always died hungry. I don't want this excess, but a little of decency. > As for Radio stations parodying the jingle- Well bad publicity is better > than none at all. If it introduces Kraftwerk to a younger generation then > all well and good. and if you were german you'd want to pay this with your taxes? put money in an envelope and send them to Kilngklang: it's more direct. > > > This jingle will not sound dated in 20 years time. money never sound dated. I'd really like to hear R&F opinion on this. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Harald Westphal Subject: (kw) Search Engine Update Date: 07 Jul 1999 18:42:56 +0200 (CES) I've updated my mailing list search engine. You can now search in all postings from January 1993 to June 1999. http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~unhj/cgi-bin/search.cgi -- Harald Westphal *** eMail: Harald.Westphal@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de *** WWW: http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Harald.Westphal/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JMJ Fanklubb Norge" Subject: SV: (kw) EXPO Jingle scandal continues Date: 07 Jul 1999 19:18:34 +0200 Mike wrote: >The next logical step for them is to release a new album that simply >consists of a vocoded voice repeating "This is the new Kraftwerk album" = in >different languages for one hour. Why not? I belive you should not change your art because you are getting paid. = Kraftwerk did the right thing when handing over the jingle as it stands = today, and grabbing the money they agreed on. It may took them 48 = minutes to produce the piece but hey!! I am still waiting for somebody = to release an album with an hour of burps and farts, now THAT would be = unexpected! (Maybe it would be more interesting if it was *vocoderized* = burps and farts!) hehe.... regards, glenn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nitrous Subject: Re: SV: (kw) EXPO Jingle scandal continues Date: 07 Jul 1999 14:29:40 -0400 Well, There goes my idea down the toilet....LOL.. I have to think of something new now :-) JMJ Fanklubb Norge wrote: I am still waiting for somebody to release an album with an hour of burps and farts, now THAT would be unexpected! (Maybe it would be more interesting if it was *vocoderized* burps and farts!) hehe.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) More EXPO Jingle news Date: 07 Jul 1999 20:37:51 +0000 Interviews with EXPO marketing chief Thomas Borcholte about the EXPO jingle can be found at http://np1.niedersachsen.com/NP/LOKA/story22558.html and http://www.rhein-main.net/nachrichten/dpa/boulevard/onl60_4_0707_07071 42721.html. Borcholte stated that the contract with Kraftwerk is not yet signed, there's just an informal agreement so far. However, there would be no reason to discuss a cheaper price. He's confident that it's a good deal for the EXPO, some companies were already interested in buying the rights for the jingle. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) AB-CD Date: 07 Jul 1999 18:10:37 +0200 I have ordered two times at ab-cd and all I can say is that I'm happy of their service. The only bad thing with them is shipping charges over Europe ($14, for any order below $50) of course, it's more expensive if you buy for more. If I could find a Web store with KW, Neu! & others rare items in Europe, it would be better. Arnaud # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) More on the jingle Date: 07 Jul 1999 19:53:08 +0100 Paul Martland wrote: >Kevin Busby say's If he was a DJ he'd remix it Paul realised afterwards that it was not I who said that. Not to worry! Anyway... How about an Electric Music remix (phoneme style)? "eeee kss poh..." Or a Goldie "Jungle" jingle remix ("Kling Klang Jangling Cash Mix"?)... Kevin PS My original email on this subject, sent many weeks back, didn't make it to the list (because I used a word such as "r*gistration" and the post was automatically filtered out!), but I suggested that maybe R&F should get poor marks for effort, but maybe, just maybe, high marks for irony! -- Genetically engineered/corrupted Nature: the world ends for a fast buck. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bob V.M." Subject: Re: (kw) Date: 07 Jul 1999 10:38:24 -0500 47 wrote: > if he (or anyone else for that matter) expected a jingle that is happy and > bouncy, progressive and modern, sophisticated and yet still speaks to every > demographic all at once and includes acoustic drums, a horn section, a > marimba and the Vienna boys choir, then the EXPO arts section manager is > either insane > it's classic, it's modern, it's EXPO2000, They could roll out a jingle with the voices on the radio from the Mix version of Autobahn. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Expo jingle Date: 07 Jul 1999 18:25:11 +0200 > > As for Radio stations parodying the jingle- Well bad > > publicity is better than none at all. If it introduces yes, bad publicity is bettere than none at all - when you have tried everything before. absolutely not as a first try. it's just a lack of taste. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Tunnel Records Date: 07 Jul 1999 13:14:57 -0700 >Arnaud wrote: >If I could find a Web store with KW, Neu! & others rare items in Europe, it would be better. How about this site? (there's no Neu! though): http://www.tunnelrecords.com/index/artists/kraft.htm Has anyone tried this place before? They have a sh#t load of KW stuff in there. KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Planet Rock 99 Date: 07 Jul 1999 13:20:48 -0700 Please, don't kill me for this one: For that one guy who asked a while ago about Afrika Bambaataa, if you still care, yes there's a 1999 mix (I saw it yesterday at Tower's listening station) of "Planet Rock" and belongs to a mix compilation, called: "Electro Dance 2: Sounds Of A Synthetic Future" if you want to listen to an audio sound sample, go to TR's listening station or just click here: http://www.towerrecords.com/listen_album.asp?stat=3&album=1522826 You'll also find the new Add N to X "Avant Hard" in there. N-joy! KW4EVER! Enrique n.p.: "Colourform" Higher Intelligence Agency # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) AB-CD Date: 07 Jul 1999 15:33:22 +0000 if you are looking for not so common item goto www.ajaxrecords.com. they are online, but they operate from Chicago USA, they stock lot's of rare items, including the Germanofon KW's and lots of Neu, etc. i bought from them a year ago, and service was great. i do beleive they sell internationally. lenny g At 06:10 PM 7/7/99 +0200, you wrote: > >I have ordered two times at ab-cd and all I can say is that I'm happy of their service. > >The only bad thing with them is shipping charges over Europe ($14, for any order below $50) of course, it's more expensive if you buy for more. > >If I could find a Web store with KW, Neu! & others rare items in Europe, it would be better. > >Arnaud # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) German 101 Date: 07 Jul 1999 13:41:00 -0700 Guys, on www.emimusic.de KW's section there's some kind of "competition = for goodies" going on and in order to be part of it, you'll have to answer = this one tiny, cute, little, petty question:=20 Wie hei=DFt der in Paris beginnende Radklassiker? Now... can anyone translate that for me, please? Thanks.=20 My Altavista translator let me down on that one. KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Young Subject: Re: (kw) German 101 Date: 07 Jul 1999 13:52:01 -0700 (PDT) --- Enrique Correa wrote: > Guys, on www.emimusic.de KW's section there's some > kind of "competition for > goodies" going on and in order to be part of it, > you'll have to answer this > one tiny, cute, little, petty question: > Wie heißt der in Paris beginnende Radklassiker? > Now... can anyone translate that for me, please? > Thanks. > My Altavista translator let me down on that one. Sure: "What is the cycling classic that begins in Paris called?" I think we know. Jeff _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) German 101 Date: 08 Jul 1999 00:05:07 +0000 > Sure: "What is the cycling classic that begins in > Paris called?" > > I think we know. Yes? What's the answer? Don't say "Tour de France", that one *ends* in Paris... ;-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) EXPO Jingle review Date: 08 Jul 1999 00:05:07 +0000 http://www.h-netz.de/dokumente/musikforum/fremd/index.html contains a review of Kraftwerk's EXPO jingle (German language). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Tunnel Records Date: 08 Jul 1999 00:05:07 +0000 > > How about this site? (there's no Neu! though): > > http://www.tunnelrecords.com/index/artists/kraft.htm Their catalogue (except for the bootlegs) is amazingly similar to the ESPRIT mailorder catalogue, even the typing errors are the same... ;-) Anyway, does anyone know any more details about this item from the Tunnelrecords catalogue: Kraftwerk - Kraftwerk And Masterwork DETAILS: Bonus Live Track Version Of Ruckzuck LABEL: DISC KRAFT 2 STATUS NOT for sale CD NS Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Young Subject: (kw) beginning or finishing in Paris Date: 07 Jul 1999 19:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Klaus Zaepke wrote: > > > > Sure: "What is the cycling classic that begins in > > Paris called?" > > > > I think we know. > > Yes? What's the answer? Don't say "Tour de France", > that one > *ends* in Paris... ;-) Well, since this is a record company site and not Jeopardy, I cannot imagine that they are looking for anything more obscure than Tour de France--an obvious connection to something "current" for their artists Kraftwerk. Whether it begins or ends in Paris is of no consequence or interest to me frankly. Jeff _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) Major Kraftwerk update at emimusic.de Date: 08 Jul 1999 01:45:14 +0200 On 07-Jul-99 A.D., Klaus Zaepke carved the following runes about "(kw) Major Kraftwerk update at emimusic.de": > The Kraftwerk pages at www.emimusic.de were updated and include now Could somebody please post a direct URL for the Kraftwerk page(s)? The mongoloids at EMI apparently don't have the sense to provide a starting page usable without Java(Script). > a newspage, the "Tour de France" promo video (Realaudio format), Is that the same clip as the one on the CDS? I haven't bought the re-release yet. Once again this bl**dy Real*-crap BTW... > That's more Kraftwerk content as on kraftwerk.com! ;-) On the other hand, everyone can access kraftwerk.com. ;) -- E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) Major Kraftwerk update at emimusic.de Date: 07 Jul 1999 23:52:16 +0000 Emanuel Mair wrote: > >On 07-Jul-99 A.D., Klaus Zaepke carved the following runes about "(kw) Major >Kraftwerk update at emimusic.de": > >> The Kraftwerk pages at www.emimusic.de were updated and include now > >Could somebody please post a direct URL for the Kraftwerk page(s)? The >mongoloids at EMI apparently don't have the sense to provide a starting >page usable without Java(Script). >> That's more Kraftwerk content as on kraftwerk.com! ;-) > >On the other hand, everyone can access kraftwerk.com. ;) thank you, i was just about to say that myself, but you beat me to it. and the page at tower records says it will try to order and deliver the TDF cd, and will cancel the order after 30 days of trying, so that does not mean they can order it, it means they can try to order it, take your money, fail to order in 30 days and hope you forget about it. is there a store that at least claims to have it in stock, or actually does have it in stock? seriously, lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: (kw) Dreiklangdimentionen Date: 08 Jul 1999 10:13:58 +0200 I recently found a record at www.boxman.co.uk which is a collection of = songs from the decade 80-90. Most of it unknown to me, but one song catched = my eye: Dreiklangdimentionen. I recall a post of some sheet music with the same, or similar name composed by Wolfgang F. I've searched the archive = at the new, superb site by Harald W (Thanks!), but with no references. = Anybody else who remembers this?? /Joakim Das Jahrzehnt 1980 - 1990=09 1. Halt mich 2. Neue M=E4nner braucht das Land 3. Alles L=FCge 4. Rosen im Asphalt 5. Sehnsucht 6. Immer mehr 7. Verdamp lang her 8. Sonne in der Nacht 9. =DCber sieben Br=FCcken 10. S.O.S. 11. Nie wieder 12. Horizont 13. Goldener Reiter 14. Ein Jahr 15. Dreiklangdimensionen 16. Blaue Augen 17. Major Tom 18. Nur getr=E4umt 19. Das Modell 20. Der Mussolini 21. Supergut 22. Huusmeister Kaczmarek 23. Halt dich an meiner Liebe fest 24. Skandal im Sperrbezirk 25. Rock Me Amadeus 26. New York/N.Y. 27. Millionenmal 28. Deja vu 29. Hohe Berge 30. Sternenhimmel 31. Da, da, da, ich lieb' dich nicht, du liebst mich nicht 32. M=E4rchenprinz 33. Die Hesse komme 34. Aus Liebe 35. Frankfurter Schnee 36. Solang man Tr=E4ume noch leben kann=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: blloyd Subject: (kw) EXPO 2000 Jingle... my $.02 Date: 08 Jul 1999 06:53:14 -0400 Such a fuss over a few spoken words. I must admit, it probably took Ralf about 30 seconds to do it - 15 of which to translate it into different languages with Alta Vista's web site. If they spent so much money making it - god forbid the opposition listen to Voice of Energy from Radioactivity, which this jingle resembles.. Bruce Doc, note. I dissent. A fast never prevents a fatness. I diet on Cod. -- Bruce Lloyd, Toronto Email: bml@macsrule.com Phone: 4167376227@msg.clearnet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADivakaran@aol.com Subject: RE: (kw) Expo jingle Date: 08 Jul 1999 07:19:33 EDT > Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:17:52 +0100 > From: "Paul Martland" > Subject: (kw) Expo jingle .. > This jingle will not sound dated in 20 years time. it certainly won't - it'll have been totally forgotten by then :-) i'm afraid i have to agree with most people - this is laughable output for half a million DM. i'm sure it's a considered outcome of KW's much-celebrated minimalistic approach - but then perhaps a price that reflected the same approach would have been more appropriate :-) ashok # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTOPH_MARQUARDT@HP-Germany-om9.om.hp.com Subject: RE: (kw) Dreiklangdimentionen Date: 08 Jul 1999 14:50:17 +0200 > I recently found a record at www.boxman.co.uk which is a > collection of songs > from the decade 80-90. Most of it unknown to me, but one song > catched my > eye: Dreiklangdimentionen. I recall a post of some sheet > music with the [snip] Hey Joakim, you refer to the "Neue Deutsche Welle" (also known as "NDW" - translates to "German New Wave" or "New German Wave"), an era of music that started in the beginning of the 80s and lived approx. until the middle of the 80s. The song that you are talking about is named "Dreiklangsdimensionen" and the band that performed it was "Rheingold" You can check out the lyrics here (among other lyrics from the NDW): http://www.physik.uni-regensburg.de/~sck04136/ndw1.html Unfortunately I don't have any information on who wrote the lyrics or the song.. I always thought it was Rheingold themselves. Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk lighting man sought by non-subscriber Date: 08 Jul 1999 14:11:17 +0100 Hi all, I offered to forward the following email to the list, _just in case_ any of you might be able to track down the person Mary is seeking. This is a long shot probably a waste of your time - sorry - but Mary enquired so politely I felt obliged to try and help! Any information? Email Mary Fusco Any complaints/asides? Email me. ;-) Many thanks on Mary's behalf. Kevin Mary Fusco wrote: >Dear Kevin, > >I have what may seem as an unusual question for you, and I certainly >hope that it is not too much of an intrusion. Twenty-four years ago, >while living in Amsterdam, I met a young man named Marcus (last name >lost) at a club called the "Oxhoft". We struck up a friendship. At that >time, he was working at either the "Paradise" or the "Melkweg" (another >fact lost to memory); I believe he worked with the lighting there. He >told me that he used to go on tour with Kraftwerk, probably working for >them in the same capacity. Unfortunately, I had to leave Amsterdam for >my home town of Boston, Massachusetts (USA) at a moment's notice and >never got to say good-bye to him. Would you have any clue as to whom I >might be able to contact who would be familiar with this person? I know >how ridiculously corny this request sounds, but I understand that stuff >like this happens on the internet all the time. And if there's a one in >a billion chance that I could see Marcus again, that's still a chance. > >Thank-you for your time. If I don't hear from you, I promise that you >won't hear from me. > >Sincerely, Mary # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) this & that RE: (kw) Re: Kraftwerk Unplugged Date: 08 Jul 1999 15:07:03 +0200 EJRSemiGod@aol.com wrote: >I don't remember Flea - but I do remember that the Chemical brothers were >two >of the Nihlists as well... hmn.. We already have discussed this before. The Chemical Brothers DO NOT appear in the Coen's film The Big Lebowsky. Greyseason@aol.com wrote: >If Ralf & Florian were to do an unplugged, I think they would seriously >need >to get back with Michael Rother. Afterward, they could go and kick Klaus >Dinger's ass for keeping the Neu! albums from the public. >But as long as Kraftwerk are not going to release anything new, I would >really like to hear the thirty-minute session that Florian, Michael, and >Klaus did in Konrad Plank's studio for a pontential Kraftwerk 2. I'm >serious. I'd really like to see that released. The very early Kraftwerk track Rueckstoss Gondoliere was recorded by Florian Schneider, Michael Rother and Klaus Dinger at Conny Plank studio when Ralf Huetter leaved the band for six months. Rueckstoss Gondoliere (aka 'Truckstop Gondelero') appears on the bootleg CD edition of Tone Float under the title Vor dem blauen Bock. Ruecktoss Gondoliere was played in live at the TV programme The Bremen Beat Club. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DepecheCBI@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) German 101 Date: 08 Jul 1999 11:01:18 EDT In einer eMail vom 08.07.99 00:06:31 (MEZ) - Mitteleurop. Sommerzeit schreib= t=20 fh5y013@public.uni-hamburg.de: > > Sure: "What is the cycling classic that begins in > > Paris called?" > >=20 > > I think we know. > =20 > Yes? What's the answer? Don't say "Tour de France", that one=20 > *ends* in Paris... ;-) > =20 It=B4s very simple - just have a look at the first line of "Tour de France". So it=B4s true - we all should know the answer. Carsten Bolte. Kiel. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bob V.M." Subject: (kw) Zabel among the showroom dummies Date: 08 Jul 1999 10:56:16 -0500 http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/p/ap/19990708/sp/cycling_tour_de_france_i2t.html With the release of Tour de France what could more appropriate than to see Erik Zabel riding his bike among the showroom dummies (almost looks like that). and now back to your regularly scheduled email list... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Monty Brandenberg Subject: Re: (kw) More on the jingle Date: 08 Jul 1999 12:48:18 -0400 (EDT) Another take on the situation: Given that the theme of any state-subsidized expo is 'take the money and run' this might be considered another work of ambiguous irony. Perhaps their strongest statement since 'Radioactivity.' -- Monty Brandenberg Consulting for: MCB, Inc. Digital Equipment Corp. 45 Putnam Avenue mcbinc@world.std.com montyb@eng.pko.dec.com Cambridge, MA 02139 617.864.6907 978.493.2702 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Dreiklangdimentionen Date: 08 Jul 1999 10:52:09 +0200 > I recently found a record at www.boxman.co.uk which is a collection of songs > from the decade 80-90. Most of it unknown to me, but one song catched my > eye: Dreiklangdimentionen. I recall a post of some sheet music with the For what I remember Dreiklangdimensionen has nothing to do with Fluer, but if you want my opinion *buy this record right now*, at last just for this marvellous song! If you don't like it, I'll buy it back from you... incidentally, we were talking about this song in it.discussioni.anni80 (an italian newsgroup for discussions about the eighties), but none could remember the group playing it... I have it on the point of my tongue... who were them? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JT Subject: Re: Subject: (kw) Tunnel Records Date: 08 Jul 1999 05:35:16 -0700 >> >Arnaud wrote: >If I could find a Web store with KW, Neu! & others rare items in Europe, it would be better. How about this site? (there's no Neu! though): http://www.tunnelrecords.com/index/artists/kraft.htm Has anyone tried this place before? They have a sh#t load of KW stuff in there. << Hello all. I have dealt with Tunnel records before. Its only fair warning that the items they list are *NOT* always in stock. In fact, many are not guaranteed to be available at all! Of all the orders I've placed with them for Kraftwerk CDs, but more than half I've had to wait more than a few months for - only to find out they were not available. Not saying that one shouldn't try them, but simply be ready for a possibly long wait or not receiving the merchandise at all. On the bright side (if you consider it so), they do promptly provide refunds for unavablae items. Hope this info is helpful. Kindest regards, -John _________________________________________ efofex - 'noise has a new purpose' http://efofex.simplenet.com http://www.mp3.com/efofex Perhaps you need Stress... Limited preview: http://special:access@efofex.simplenet.com/priv/stress/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eddie Pedersen" Subject: Re: (kw) German 101 Date: 08 Jul 1999 08:58:17 +0200 The answer is Paris-Roubaix. Good luck EHP # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ctv." Subject: (kw) kraftwerk mp3 Date: 08 Jul 1999 14:39:35 GMT I am from Mexico and big fan of kraftwerk. Do someone know where i can download kraftwerk songs in mp3 format. Here is a site with the history of kraftwerk in spanish _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Leon Mols" Subject: Re: (kw) Dreiklangdimentionen Date: 08 Jul 1999 18:27:41 +0200 It was made by a german group called Rheingold, they use quite a lot of synthesizers, but the music doesn't sound anything like KW. There is also an English version available : Triad Dimensions. They had about three hits in Germany: Dreiklangsdimensionen, Fluss (River) and Fan-Fan-Fanatic. Rheingold was a trio, Bodo Staiger (guitar, vocals),Lothar Manteuffel (textwriter) and Brigitte Kunze (keyboards). (info found at: http://www.ichwillspass.de/rheingol.htm) The English version of FanFanFanatic also lists a certain E. Schult under the credits. I'm not sure, but it could be Emil Schult, who did some of the German to English translations for KW as well...... Anyway, that's all I know....... ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 10:13 AM I recently found a record at www.boxman.co.uk which is a collection of songs from the decade 80-90. Most of it unknown to me, but one song catched my eye: Dreiklangdimentionen. I recall a post of some sheet music with the same, or similar name composed by Wolfgang F. I've searched the archive at the new, superb site by Harald W (Thanks!), but with no references. Anybody else who remembers this?? /Joakim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk's URL at emimusic.de Date: 08 Jul 1999 13:26:12 -0700 >Emanuel Mair wrote: >Could somebody please post a direct URL for the Kraftwerk page(s)? >lenny g wrote: >thank you, i was just about to say that myself, but you beat me to it. try this: http://www.emimusic.de/artists/kraftwerk/home.html Good luck KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steven C. Ward" Subject: (kw) EMI Kraftwerk Site Date: 08 Jul 1999 17:55:47 -0400 Hi The EMI Germany site is all good, except that the TDF video gives me a 404 Not Found error. Has it ever been up on the page? Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) expo jingle fiction tale n. 1 Date: 08 Jul 1999 03:07:49 +0200 it's a quiet morning at Klingklang. suddenly, a telephone ring break the silence. "hallo? who's talking? ah, it's you... hold on please... I see if he is at home..." whispering with a hand over the microphone: "Flo, they're again these types of expo 2000... for the jingle..." "Ralphie, listen, I'm not in the mood... tell'em I'm not here... so you can't take this responsibility without me... we resisted more than 20 years without a new record, why make a problem for a jingle..." still with a hand over the microphone: "Flo, it's two week they call and you are not here... this story can't continue..." "Ralphie, ask them some outrageous amount of money, so they'll just quit disturbing us. ask them... let's see... yes! ask them 500.000 marks! I just want to see if they call again!" loud in the microphone: "Well gentlemen, anyway I think we are in the range of 500.000 marks... what? ehm, hold on please..." again whispering with a hand over the microphone: "Flo... they say 500.000 marks is too much... they would pay no more than 400.000..." "Oh well Ralphie... tell'em I get back at studio right now and pass me the call..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: "Tour de France" video (was: Re: (kw) Major Kraftwerk update at Date: 09 Jul 1999 00:12:18 +0000 > > a newspage, the "Tour de France" promo video (Realaudio format), > > Is that the same clip as the one on the CDS? Yes. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Dreiklangdimentionen Date: 09 Jul 1999 00:12:18 +0000 > I recently found a record at www.boxman.co.uk which is a collection of songs > from the decade 80-90. Most of it unknown to me, but one song catched my > eye: Dreiklangdimentionen. I recall a post of some sheet music with the > same, or similar name composed by Wolfgang F. Wolfgang Fluer was not involved, but there is a strong and fairly reliable rumour that Karl Bartos / Elektric Music once did a remix of this track. > Anybody else who remembers this?? > Das Jahrzehnt 1980 - 1990 I'm not 100 % sure, but I think that this compilation includes the single edit of the version that is supposed to be remixed by Karl Bartos / Elektric Music. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) beginning or finishing in Paris Date: 09 Jul 1999 00:12:18 +0000 > From: Jeff Young > > > > "What is the cycling classic that begins in Paris called?" > > > I think we know. > > > > Yes? What's the answer? Don't say "Tour de France", > > that one *ends* in Paris... ;-) > > Well, since this is a record company site and not > Jeopardy, I cannot imagine that they are looking for > anything more obscure than Tour de France You possibly underestimate EMI. > Whether it begins or ends in Paris is of no consequence or interest to m= e frankly. If you're not interested in winning any of these precious Kraftwerk prices.... ;-) > From: DepecheCBI@aol.com > > It=B4s very simple - just have a look at the first line of "Tour de > France". Bingo! :-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) EXPO Jingle scandal update Date: 09 Jul 1999 00:12:18 +0000 Some new developments in the EXPO Jingle affair: One of the main headlines of the Neue Presse was dedicated to Kraftwerk's EXPO Jingle today: "Scorn and criticism for the EXPO Jingle. All Germany laughs at the EXPO". This must be the first time that Kraftwerk are so prominently mentioned on the front page of a major German newspaper! :-) The Neue Presse reports that Radio ffn joined the NDR's boycott of the jingle. A jingle should sound like a Ferrari, but Kraftwerk's piece rather sounds like a Trabi. Radio ffn will use a self-produced EXPO jingle instead. Radio ffn also mentioned that they've recently bought an award- winning package of 30 jingles for just DM 70.000, and jingle composer Volker Bublitz stated that the usual price for a 20-seconds-jingle is DM 2.500 - 3.000. Todays Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung did a reader's poll about the jingle. The majority of readers did not like the like the piece ("Madness", "Boring", "Horrible", "Idiotic"), and there was a consensus that it was too expensive. The Neue Presse did a similar poll today, the results should be published tomorrow. The EXPO issued a press statement today. They said that the negotiations about the marketing rights for the jingle were now finished, and that the gainings would exceed the costs, so the jingle will be a commercial success. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO Jingle scandal update Date: 08 Jul 1999 18:26:41 -0400 You know, if you weren't such a trusted name around here, I'd think you were making this stuff up. A national scandal over a *jingle*?! I mean, COME ON. Is this really such a big deal? > The EXPO issued a press statement today. They said > that the negotiations about the marketing rights for > the jingle were now finished, and that the gainings > would exceed the costs, so the jingle will be a > commercial success. So I guess we can expect to see this on CD, hear it in advertisements for jeans and beer, and perhaps be able to purchase the sheet music? :-) -- Adam J Weitzman "They don't make music like that NewsEdge Corporation these days. In fact, sometimes http://www.newsedge.com they don't even make music." http://www.newspage.com - Dave Barry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO Jingle scandal update Date: 09 Jul 1999 01:17:38 +0000 > You know, if you weren't such a trusted name around here, I'd think you were > making this stuff up. A national scandal over a *jingle*?! I mean, COME ON. Is > this really such a big deal? Of course it's not really a *big* scandal, but yes, it has been one of the major themes in the North German media during the the past four or five days. It's of course a nice, absurd story for the press, but it's not so that the people here are seriously upset or angry or so... It's more like a running gag... BTW: I've heard that there was some TV coverage on the jingle affair on Tuesday and Wednesday. Anyone taped this? ;-) > > The EXPO issued a press statement today. They said > > that the negotiations about the marketing rights for > > the jingle were now finished, and that the gainings > > would exceed the costs, so the jingle will be a > > commercial success. > > So I guess we can expect to see this on CD, hear it in advertisements for jeans > and beer, Probably yes. (Seriously!) Maybe not jeans and beer, but the EXPO already announced puppets that speak the jingle when being pushed... Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) EMI Kraftwerk Site Date: 09 Jul 1999 10:00:24 +0200 Sure has - I had no problems with it (Running WinNT 4 SP4, IE5, RealPlayer 5.0.0.102). . . . . I just checked: Now it seems not to be working... /Joakim -----Original Message----- ...TDF video gives me a 404 Not Found error. Has it ever been up on the page? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) EXPO Jingle scandal update Date: 09 Jul 1999 10:05:25 +0200 >Klaus Zaepke wrote: >>...puppets that speak the jingle when being pushed... By pressing down a special key, it plays a little melody! :))) /Joakim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) EXPO Jingle success Date: 09 Jul 1999 11:21:20 +0200 Listening to the jingle after all these stories and I must say I think it's COOL - I mean, if you could get 400=2E000 DM for the same thing - would you say no? That would be stupid - wouldn't it? And I like the jingle a lot, I mean for us who like electronic music it might not be such a new thing to hear - but what=20= is nowadays, in the 70's and 80's you could make sounds=20= noone ever heard before, now these sounds are so common=20= - BUT not for older generations and people not so into=20= electronic music as we are on this list=2E I see this jingle as a means for Kraftwerk to reach the big=20= audience, to reach people who never heard of them before,=20= and getting well paid for it at the same time - genial=2E=2E=2E =2E=2E=2Eand for the EXPO mascot I have to get my hand on one=20= of them and squeeze it real hard - wont you? That's my opinion/Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Jingle Date: 09 Jul 1999 14:18:20 +0100 I was listening to XFM, London's independent radio station this morning. Can you guess what one of the news items was? 'Remember German Band Kraftwerk? Well they'v jusy been paid £200,000 pounds for a 3 second jingle!' It's hit the United Kingdom. We have the making of an international event. Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) 'Q' Magazine 8/99 - Ralf featured Date: 09 Jul 1999 15:44:47 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_KAvNMfJRt194E0KCiAwMjQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit August's edition of 'Q' magazine features a small Kraftwerk related piece. 'Q' have listed what they reckon to be the 100 greatest stars of the 20th century. Ralf Hutter comes in at number 64, squeezed in between Sam Cooke (65) and Woodie Guthrie (63). Here's what they have to say about Ralf: 64. Ralf Hutter [recent concert picture of Ralf] He might he a robot Little is known about Ralf Hutter. He was born near Dusseldorf in 1946 he likes cycling, clubbing, coffee and he leads Kraftwerk. They've released no new material since 1986, yet Hutter and Florian Schneider, plus current hired help, meet every weekday between 5pm and lam. They have dinner and work on music at their Kling Klang studio. Some days they'll sit in the park and eat ice-creams or take a communal trip to the cinema. Michael Jackson summoned Hutter and demanded collaboration. He refused. Recommended Album: Kraftwerk, The Man Machine (Capitol, 1978). Its shocking to hear just how emotional their music is. You said: "A man amongst men-machines." Will Grafton, Stalybridge BTW, anyone in the UK got their mitts on the TdF reissue yet? 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk's URL at emimusic.de Date: 09 Jul 1999 06:34:57 +0200 On 08-Jul-99 A.D., Enrique Correa carved the following runes about "(kw) Kraftwerk's URL at emimusic.de": >> Emanuel Mair wrote: >> Could somebody please post a direct URL for the Kraftwerk page(s)? > try this: > http://www.emimusic.de/artists/kraftwerk/home.html > Good luck Thanks! Now I'm just waiting for EMI to send me a mousepad (est. value DM 400000). -- E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas W." Subject: Re: (kw) Dreiklangdimentionen Date: 09 Jul 1999 13:21:10 +0200 > > I recently found a record at www.boxman.co.uk which is a collection of songs > > from the decade 80-90. Most of it unknown to me, but one song catched my > > eye: Dreiklangdimentionen. I recall a post of some sheet music with the > > same, or similar name composed by Wolfgang F. > > Wolfgang Fluer was not involved, but there is a strong and > fairly reliable rumour that Karl Bartos / Elektric Music once did a > remix of this track. > You mean this remix in 1990? Quit possible that Bartos was involved, since Manteuffel is ex- Rheingold. Or does there exist a second remix by Bartos (not remixed by Rheingold)? Bye, Thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Jingle Single Date: 09 Jul 1999 17:54:10 +0000 > The Neue Presse did a similar poll today, the results should be > published tomorrow. They are. 80 % did not like the jingle. The paper dedicated a full page to Kraftwerk today (readers comments, archive photos, short biographic article). The Neue Presse also reports that the jingle will be published on a single next spring. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Dreiklangdimentionen Date: 09 Jul 1999 18:00:29 +0000 > > > eye: Dreiklangdimentionen. I recall a post of some sheet music with the > > > same, or similar name composed by Wolfgang F. > > > > Wolfgang Fluer was not involved, but there is a strong and > > fairly reliable rumour that Karl Bartos / Elektric Music once did a > > remix of this track. > > You mean this remix in 1990? Yes, that's the one. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Pitt" Subject: (kw) Electric Music 2nd Album UK release Date: 09 Jul 1999 17:20:49 +0100 I don't know if this has already been reported but the 2nd Electric Music album has been released in the UK on the "Jammin' Records " label. I saw it in HMV today. The only obvious difference is that on the front cover, the words 'Karl Bartos' has been added in the bottom right hand corner. Needless to say it was filed under 'Kraftwerk'. Mike. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anders Wahlbom Subject: (kw) Re: Dreiklangsdimensionen Date: 09 Jul 1999 18:34:07 +0200 (MET DST) About Rheingold: > It was made by a german group called Rheingold, they use quite a lot of > synthesizers, but the music doesn't sound anything like KW. There is also an > English version available : Triad Dimensions. "Triad dimensions keep singing/Lightplay impressions keep swinging"... Still it's better than "River", the English version of "Fluss". > They had about three hits in Germany: Dreiklangsdimensionen, Fluss (River) > and Fan-Fan-Fanatic. What about "Das steht dir gut" or "Computerbeat"? > Rheingold was a trio, Bodo Staiger (guitar, vocals),Lothar Manteuffel > (textwriter) and Brigitte Kunze (keyboards). > (info found at: http://www.ichwillspass.de/rheingol.htm) I've made an almost complete discography at: http://www.update.uu.se/~awahlbom/text/discog/rheingold/ > The English version of FanFanFanatic also lists a certain E. Schult under > the credits. I'm not sure, but it could be Emil Schult, who did some of the > German to English translations for KW as well...... I'm fairly certain it is Emil Schult. Can't check it right now, as I don't have my records handy... And then Klaus wrote: > I'm not 100 % sure, but I think that this compilation includes the > single edit of the version that is supposed to be remixed by Karl > Bartos / Elektric Music. Hmm... I've held the 12" of the 1990 remix (don't own it myself, but a friend does), and it doesn't say anything about Bartos or Elektric Music anywhere on the sleeve. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean anything... Anders Wahlbom | http://www.update.uu.se/~awahlbom/ (Finger for geek code) | http://www.cutoff.se/dss NOW PLAYING: John Foxx: _Assembly_ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward_Mordaunt@haygroup.com Subject: (kw) Electric Music 2nd Album U Date: 09 Jul 1999 17:51:25 +0100 I bought this album in Hamburg recently and whilst i'd expect any Kraftwerk devotees to add it to their collection i must say it's probably the worst album i've ever bought. Does anyone out there actually enjoy listening to it? The Yamo album though, is excellent and i'm looking forward to the next one in November... Ed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Dreiklangsdimensionen Date: 09 Jul 1999 19:15:54 +0000 > > The English version of FanFanFanatic also lists a certain E. Schult under > > the credits. I'm not sure, but it could be Emil Schult, who did some of the > > German to English translations for KW as well...... > > I'm fairly certain it is Emil Schult. Can't check it right now, as I don't > have my records handy... Yes, it is Emil Schult. > > I'm not 100 % sure, but I think that this compilation includes the > > single edit of the version that is supposed to be remixed by Karl > > Bartos / Elektric Music. > > Hmm... I've held the 12" of the 1990 remix (don't own it myself, but a > friend does), and it doesn't say anything about Bartos or Elektric Music > anywhere on the sleeve. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean > anything... The Bartos / Elektric Music involvement was once reported in the Kraftwerk fanzine Aktivitaet, and I've heard this also from somebody else (no Aktivitaet reader), so there might be a chance that it's actually true... Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Dreiklangsdimensionen Date: 09 Jul 1999 19:15:54 +0000 > > The English version of FanFanFanatic also lists a certain E. Schult under > > the credits. I'm not sure, but it could be Emil Schult, who did some of the > > German to English translations for KW as well...... > > I'm fairly certain it is Emil Schult. Can't check it right now, as I don't > have my records handy... Yes, it is Emil Schult. > > I'm not 100 % sure, but I think that this compilation includes the > > single edit of the version that is supposed to be remixed by Karl > > Bartos / Elektric Music. > > Hmm... I've held the 12" of the 1990 remix (don't own it myself, but a > friend does), and it doesn't say anything about Bartos or Elektric Music > anywhere on the sleeve. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean > anything... The Bartos / Elektric Music involvement was once reported in the Kraftwerk fanzine Aktivitaet, and I've heard this also from somebody else (no Aktivitaet reader), so there might be a chance that it's actually true... Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeroen de Haan" Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO Jingle scandal update Date: 09 Jul 1999 21:02:15 +0200 > So I guess we can expect to see this on CD, hear it in advertisements for jeans > and beer, and perhaps be able to purchase the sheet music? :-) You funny guy... -- MONEY: People will do odd things if you give them money. When everything is worth money, then money is worth nothing. If you keep your money in your shoe, then people will know which bills are yours. Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Subject: (kw) Bootleg Date: 09 Jul 1999 21:08:55 +0200 Hi- I came across Kraftwerk's "Concert Classics" bootleg on ebay -since I already own a copy myself, I thought I should share this with you guys :-) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=127258590 Have a nice weekend, Dave. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 17:24:03 +0100 Date: 09 Jul 1999 13:17:18 -0600 Klaus wrote: The Neue Presse also reports that the jingle will be published on a single next spring. _______________________ I think I was probably right when I said that the note form of the full jingle, all language versions together sounds to me like a classic Kraftwerk vocal line. If it's released as a single it'll be a full blown piece. As possibly the first piece of new KW material the sales will be good and Expo will be laughing Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Karl let the Sunshine right into our hearts... Date: 09 Jul 1999 13:01:54 -0700 >Edward Mordaunt wrote: >I bought this album in Hamburg recently and whilst i'd expect any Kraftwerk >devotees to add it to their collection i must say it's probably the worst album >i've ever bought. Does anyone out there actually enjoy listening to it? I have the Japanese version and indeed, EM's 2nd album is not one might expect from an ex-member of our heroes. This CD has a very acoustic sound, abundant with sing along vocal harmonies, rhythmic guitars and a lyrical drive with the emphasis on love and friendship which is a far cry from "we are the robots who love trains, computers, autobahns and neon lights". Contrary to "Esperanto", in here, the only things that resembles a bit KW are the Vocoder and the lyrical theme of "The Young Urban Professional". That's it, everything else is plain classic Brit-pop. Maybe the reason for this *new* EM sound relays on the fact that Karl was raised (on his own words): "[...] with pop music, The Beatles, guitar bands from London, Liverpool [...] I was [...] into Motown, Chuck Berry, James Brown, rhythmic music, the whole Motown thing was where the Beatles came from [...] When you're a teen, everything you receive stays with you, like a programming blueprint; the songs your mum sings while a baby programmes you in a way, and that's why we consider harmonic music good for the soul and intellectual music is rough." (Jeez... Karl blames his mum for everything, even for the cover of "The Man Machine"... now that I think of... Ralf's mum, probably sung to him some Chinese lullabies while he was sucking her boobs; and Florian's played Stockhausen while he was wetting his diapers... ;-) Anyways, I personally think that this album is very good, extremely catchy, full with warmth and feel-good-I'd-like-to-have-my-girlfriend-handy-while-playing-these-little-me lodies. If you are an Electronic, Lightning Seeds, or even a New Order fan, you might be interested on buying this CD. Bartos' recent work with Electronic on "Raise the pressure" is evident in the mixture of synth-pop and rhythm guitar; in fact, Karl, on the album credits, expresses his gratitude towards Johnny Marr by thanking him (for whatever reason, it does not explain, maybe for some ideas on guitar riffs? who knows..). If you're a real M.A.N. or a techno hardcore fan, look somewhere else. KW4EVER! Enrique FYI: I also have the KB produced Mobile Homes CD and it could very well be Electric Music's clone. n.p.: "Electric Music" (I never get tired of "Sunshine", what can I say...) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (kw) :):):) Date: 09 Jul 1999 13:33:39 PDT Hello everyone !!!! I'm in a happy mood today (it is my birthday). I just felt like saying that I love all you guys and that I have had a wonderful time chatting with all of you. I'm going to see the Chems tonight in LA, so hopefully I will have fun (the new CD was decent). Talk to you all on Sunday . (To Brendan from the Orbital list : Despite everything that has been said, and the backlash that has resulted from your joining in and posting, I want to extend my hand of friendship to you. Maybe everyone and I on the list diagree with just about everything you say, :) but I don't want to make anyone feel like their in a hostile environment. Welcome !!!! (p.s. Vangelis STILL rules !!!! ;) Love, Josh/NoiseWerker/Juno noisewerker@hotmail.com noisewerker@home.com ICQ #42651237 _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bruce M. Lloyd" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk icon Date: 09 Jul 1999 15:36:33 -0400 All, www.iconfactory.com has a collection of high quality Kraftwerk icons (they're available for the Mac, not sure about Windows). Check them out.. www.iconfactory.com - go to the "Warehouse" section and look for "Computer World" by D.B. They're EXCELLENT! Bruce # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lbo Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO Jingle success Date: 09 Jul 1999 18:49:38 +0200 > 400.000 DM for the same thing - would you say no? yes, knowing it's public money, and not a caprice of some crazy billionaire, I would say no. > I see this jingle as a means for Kraftwerk to reach the big audience, to reach people who never heard of them before, and getting well paid for it at the same time - genial... but pleeeease... what about trying it with a decent record, instead? they could have all the publicity they want! and with ethically methods! I just hope it ends like with Sigue Sigue Sputnik, many years ago: they stated in an interview that their label paid them an outrageously high amount of money to sign them. for some days the joke stood up, then the label told out the truth... but then again it was a private affair with private money... really, fellows, how many of you pay their own taxes? it's tax paying time in Italy, I am a so called "free professionist", so I get gross amount of money, no net wages, and I know exactly how much the State take from me and how little it returns... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: Jingle Single (was: Re: (kw) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 17:24:03 Date: 09 Jul 1999 22:46:38 +0000 > If it's released as a single it'll be a full blown piece. Attention: The article just stated that the jingle will be published on a single. It did not mention that it will be extended to a "full" pop music composition. > As possibly the first piece of new KW material the sales will be good > and Expo will be laughing Kraftwerk release schedules were not very credible in the past years. So there's a certain possibility that it won't be the EXPO who laughs last... ;-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) The EXPO Jingle "scandal" Date: 09 Jul 1999 23:46:27 +0200 Klaus Zaepke wrote: (...) >The EXPO issued a press statement today. They said that the >negotiations about the marketing rights for the jingle were now >finished, and that the gainings would exceed the costs, so the jingle >will be a commercial success. Mmmh...I also think so. And: all in all the EXPO 2000 in Hannover is/will be *very* expensive, so that these DM 400000.- are just peanuts... And I think, it's worth. "Art" is expensive, and this minimalistic piece is (very minimalistic, but good) art for me and it fits to the concept of EXPO 2000 (as it would also fit for "Ars Electronica" in Linz, for example)... . It's not polular for 80% of the people, well, but what would people choose? Some stupid kind of melody, between folk music and kitsch... Gruesse aus Wien, Georgie -- * "Synthetic electronic sounds, industrial rhythms all around..." * * ...heute Abend aus Deutschland: KRAFTWERK * * Georg Jajus - Vienna - Austria * * * http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * phone & SMS: +436765621850 * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97,3 FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) NEW VIDEO !! Date: 09 Jul 1999 19:58:02 -0300 Hi, werkers ! I have a NEW video !!! Recorded in New York, during the 98 Tour !! The videotape includes two new songs. About the quality )sound and images) is very good (closes of the Ralf !!) Interested ... ok, write me privately. 97 FM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) The EXPO Jingle "scandal" Date: 10 Jul 1999 01:38:41 +0000 > And: all in all the EXPO 2000 in Hannover is/will be *very* expensive, > so that these DM 400000.- are just peanuts... If DM 400.000 are considered to be "just peanuts", then it is not surprising that the EXPO will be very expensive. > "Art" is expensive, No wonder, if such prices are paid. > It's not polular for 80% of the people, well, but what would people > choose? > Some stupid kind of melody, between folk music and kitsch... Then they should like the jingle. Okay, there's no folk music, but two out of three is quite close. :-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TiMeZeRo [Daniel Mark]" Subject: Help! I lost my bookmarks. (kw) Date: 07 Jul 1999 22:53:54 +0200 Hey ...everyone, her at the KW list. I had kinda unlucky and lost all my kraftwerk bookmarks. That happend when I re-installed net- scape. Could you help me with sending your kw. bookmark files to me. I would be very glad and thankfull. Daniel. Please attach Kw bookmark files directly to: Timezero@home.se Ps. I love you all. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. D." Subject: (kw) Re: Help! I lost my bookmarks. Date: 09 Jul 1999 19:04:58 -0700 (PDT) I would start by checking http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/links.html by the one and only Kevin Busby. === Roger. rd411@yahoo.com Regor@webtv.net _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO Jingle scandal update Date: 09 Jul 1999 04:06:14 +0200 >making this stuff up. A national scandal over a *jingle*?! I mean, COME ON. Is >this really such a big deal? it's a deal as big as 400 thousands deutsche marks, or 200 thousands euros, or 400 millions itlaian liras, or 220 thousands dollars... for some seconds of quick muzak (it does not matter if nice or not). I'll be glad if in my country too there would be enough civic spirit to scandalize for public money waste. it seem we always forget that it's our money. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Michael Rother News Date: 10 Jul 1999 14:58:03 +0000 The August issue of the German magazine Keyboards announces a new Michael Rother album for autumn. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Ivaschenko Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk WarField concert available for download Date: 10 Jul 1999 17:24:20 +0400 Hello everybody. First part of Kraftwerk WarField'98 (SanFrancisco) is available for download at http://www.chat.ru/~alexfedorov. Please note that during each update the previous part will be deleted and replaced by a new one. To users of kw.nvr.ru FTP server who had accounts: the server has moved to port 3000. mp3:leech account is not available anymore. -- Best Regards Vladimir Ivaschenko http://www.hazard.maks.net/~hazard # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Dangermond" Subject: (kw) Alternative http site to download Warfield Concert Date: 10 Jul 1999 10:53:08 -0400 An alternative site: If you would like to download the Kraftwerk SF Warfield 1998 concert in its entirety: http://pebbles.geosys.com/mjd/Warfield/ Enjoy Michael Dangermond # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Electric Music 2nd Album U Date: 10 Jul 1999 22:41:36 +0200 On Fri, 9 Jul 1999 17:51:25 +0100, Edward_Mordaunt@haygroup.com wrote: > > > >I bought this album in Hamburg recently and whilst i'd expect any Kraftwerk >devotees to add it to their collection i must say it's probably the worst album >i've ever bought. Does anyone out there actually enjoy listening to it? The >Yamo album though, is excellent and i'm looking forward to the next one in >November... oh... you are just unfair. Electric Music is a great album, actually it's very similar to Electronic or New Order, but Bartos's voice is much more "popy" and enjoyable than the singer of New Order. I don't really understand why this album wa so critisized on the list. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "My Bulk Mail" Subject: Re: (kw) Electric Music 2nd Album U Date: 11 Jul 1999 00:33:53 +0200 >Electric Music is a great album, actually it's very similar to Electronic or New Order, but Bartos's voice is much more >"popy" and enjoyable than the singer of New Order. > Does Bartos sing on the album ? I tought it were done by a professional singer. btw I think this music is unaffected POSITIVE, simple but high quality very good music. Tom. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Ivaschenko Subject: Tone Float. was: Re: (kw) Alternative http site to download Warfield Concert Date: 11 Jul 1999 12:41:47 +0400 In order not to duplicate efforts, I replaced Warfield with Tone Float. http://www.chat.ru/~alexfedorov. -- Best Regards Vladimir Ivaschenko http://www.hazard.maks.net/~hazard # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik J. Eid" Subject: (kw) Karlsruhe MP3s Date: 11 Jul 1999 11:13:33 -0400 Has anyone out there been keeping a close watch on Arnaud de Bonald's Kraftwerk MP3 web page (http://home.worldnet.fr/bonald/audio/mp3.htm)? Arnaud has been making portions of the 1997 Karlsruhe concert available over the last couple of months. The most recent post (Opening/Nummern/Computerwelt) is stated to be the last. I don't remember seeing Taschenrechner (Pocket Calculator) out there. Did I miss it? If so, is it available somewhere else? I managed to download the entire concert except for this one song... any help you can give is appreciated! . . \_ +\_ + o_-/ . O . \-_o -=/- . . . . \=// . ---------\_______ ||O ___.______ /* Erik Eid */ \____||L/\_____/ /* eeid@wwnet.net */_______________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (kw) Off-Topic : Back with report Date: 10 Jul 1999 22:47:19 PDT Hey all !!! Got back in today; I'm tired as hell !!! The Chemical Bros. rocked !!!! One problem though. THE DJ'S !!!!! I arrived at the Hollywood Palladium at around 5:30 PM. The doors opened at 6:30. My friend and I had stood in the second row that was formed. Some DJ they had (who name is unknown) spun shit for a good two hours. This REALLY began to piss my friend and I off. Then finally Todd Terry came up and did his set after that first load of dung had been dropped. Todd wasn't bad, but he could've spun some better stuff. Midway into the set, we had gotten so damn exhausted from standing that we moved up to the balcony. Finally at 10:30, the Bros. appeared. I felt like I was at some school dance. I almost went insane. I mean I know that long DJ sets are typical at a rave, but I came to see the Bros.; not to hear 4 hours of shit. If you mix, you need to have GOOD MUSIC and not repetitive Chinese water torture. Made me think twice about having my turntables repaired. ;) I didn't dance until they opened with "Hey Boy Hey Girl". I knew that I would be dead by the time that they finally arrived on stage if I had done so earlier. Too much treble though. And too many high pitched siren sounds and grinding bomb distortion. There was this one girl who got up on stage and flashed the crowd (that's when I regretted moving up to the balcony), and one guy got roudy with the wanna-be bacon squad and was kicked out. The place reeked of bud and sweat. It always suprises me how people sneak stuff in after being frisked. I remember seeing Kraftwerk at the same place last year and I was told that I couldn't bring in my CD's. I asked the security guard if he could hold them until the end of the show because I didn't want to step out of line to put them back in the car. Fucker ran off with them after the show. Nevertheless, when the show started, some guy was waving his vinyl copy of "Ralf & Florian" around in the air. WHAT THE FUCK ??? Also, I noticed once again that when older people have nowhere to go, they come see what's up with us kids. It's so cute and silly to see old grandmas and guys in their mid 40's who are all fried out of their minds dance with their eyes closed. ;) FOR THE ZTT/ART OF NOISE LIST : Was at the Virgin Megastore at the Ontario Mills Mall earlier today; they played bits from "Seduction", and I saw like, three of four copies of the Yebo remixes in the clearance section for $3.99 ! :0 I also got the issue of DJ magazine with the Anne & Paul interviews. There was an ad for Metaforce in it as well, and DJ Michael Kilkie made the Rhythm Masters remix number one on his list. There is also a photo and interview of AoN inside of freebie mag Mean Street (a small Orange County based, US publication that mostly specializes in punk with a dab of rap and techno). FOR THE YELLO LIST : I finally picked up "Solid Pleasure" a few days ago; I must say that it is quite trippy ! Chico Hablas' guitar solos on that album are so beautiful !!! 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo@blunet.it Subject: Re: (kw) The EXPO Jingle "scandal" Date: 11 Jul 1999 18:46:56 +0200 > And: all in all the EXPO 2000 in Hannover is/will be *very* expensive, > so that these DM 400000.- are just peanuts... but do you realize that expo2000 is a public affair, a state finenced affair, an affair financed with taxes of other people? expo2000 organizers are not using their own money! they are using the taxes you had paid if you were german! it's just antiethical that they gamble money not of their own, paying something 20 times its normal market value, guessing that maybe they will do the money back by selling copyrights! if they paid the jingle it's market price, they would have done a lot more of money! a maket price for that jingle would have been 10- 20.000 DM, being generous: so at last they could have done 390- 380.000 DM more with the copyrights revenue. > And I think, it's worth. "Art" is expensive, and this minimalistic fine, let's have artists funded by the state. let's work 8 hour per day in front of a computer or in a mining coal knowing that your taxes will be used to let the friend of someone be paid to be an "artist" that can live 15 and more year without exercitating his art... I don't want to get personal, but people: do you work for a living? do you know how many taxes you pay per year or are you still at charge of your parents? > It's not polular for 80% of the people, well, but what would people > choose? they'll choose the shit you most commonly see on the hit lists. is this a good reason to steal public money? if your favourite group don't sell enough (and anyway Kraftwer *could* sell enough without compromising, they don't absolutely need to be introduced to anyone), what do you do, you take public money to fund them? and look from another side: they have had 400.000 DM for doing nothing. could you imagine if the pressure they have to release a new album is now increased? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) Alternative http site to download Warfield Concert Date: 11 Jul 1999 14:06:19 -0600 (MDT) On Sat, 10 Jul 1999, Michael Dangermond wrote: > An alternative site: > If you would like to download the Kraftwerk SF Warfield 1998 concert in its > entirety: I'd just like to express my thanks to you and Vladimir for providing this valuable public service. I'm listening to the Warfield MP3s now. It's great, especially since that was the closest venue to me that they played, and I couldn't afford to go. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * Microsoft software: It may bloated, but at least it's slow. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Karlsruhe MP3s Date: 11 Jul 1999 19:13:52 +0200 On Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:13:33 -0400, Erik J. Eid wrote: >I don't remember seeing Taschenrechner (Pocket Calculator) out there. Did >I miss it? If so, is it available somewhere else? I think I have posted it afew weeks ago... If it were not the case, I will post it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Luca Dassi" Subject: R: (kw) Kraftwerk icon Date: 11 Jul 1999 22:31:14 +0200 >www.iconfactory.com has a collection of high quality Kraftwerk icons >(they're available for the Mac, not sure about Windows). Check them out.. >They're EXCELLENT! These have been around since a long time...nevertheless they're cute and I converted them into Windows .ICO format. Anyone interested can email me privately. Please remember they're free for personal or educational (?) use only. Ciao, *Luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com Date: 11 Jul 1999 22:23:26 -0600 The heavy breathing, harp and japanese strings of TDF may now be heard at www.kraftwerk.com Could this be the new Tour de France jingle? DJFRANKX http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/kw2000.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tadream" Subject: (kw) the mobile homes mp3 Date: 12 Jul 1999 10:12:15 +0200 does any of u guys know where i can get my hands on mp3s of the mobile homes (turn down the silence specifically) thnx tadream ------------- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] -------------- Uwaga: POPkarta o wartosci 50 zl. GRATIS. Szczegoly: http://www.pop.centertel.pl/pop/promocja.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Warfield Concert Date: 12 Jul 1999 09:32:24 +0100 I too would like to thank Michael for the Warfield URL and the technical assistance he gave me. Does anyone know anything about the Warfield concert. Is it an audience recording? If it is it's very good. And for all those who've complained about the use of public money for a jingle, the news story, albeit minor this am in England is the use of public money to build a sculpture made of pork scratchings. Don't ask me to explain what a pork scratiching is! Paul. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Electronics and Musicmaker Date: 12 Jul 1999 12:14:47 +0100 Does anyone have a copy of the English magazine 'Electronics and Musicmaker' from 1981 with the full run down on KWs equipment complete with phtographs and an interview with Ralf. I bought this at the time but it's been lost in many moves. I'd love to get hold of a photocopy. Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean and Karen (and sometimes Duncan)" Subject: (kw) Jingle, jangle, jingle Date: 12 Jul 1999 07:53:30 -0400 Hi all.. Well, I generally just lurk about inhopes I hear of two things: 1. A Kraftwerk Concert in Toronto or Ottawa 2. A new album. The recent talk of Kraftwerk's multi thousand deal to make the Expo 2000 jungle is getting a bit loud and I thought I had best comment. To the nay sayers, I say good for Kraftwerk. Millions are spent by all western governments on the arts and its about time some was given to a pioneer in modern music. If they put out a new album, I'll be as happy as any of you, but I think of another of my favorite bands, DEVO, who haven't had an album in almost 10 years but never officially broke up.. They tour occasionally, record jingles for commercials , make movie musik and produce videos.. good for them too.. All these guys have beem making music since I was about 2-6 years old, and maybe its time they were able to take a break and make some serious cash. Sean LIddle # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Under pressure? Date: 12 Jul 1999 09:02:50 -0700 >lbo@blunet.it wrote: >could you imagine if the pressure they have to release a new album is now increased? The way I see it, they only have three choices: 1. Wait for the release of a new album until this whole jingle fiasco goes away, and start the millenium fresh... 2. Go ahead and release a new album now, in the middle of the storm taking the risk of being boycotted in their own land... 3. Take a trip to Hawaii and blow DM 400K in Margaritas and Hula-Hula dances, and don't worry about the new album... Regardless of the choices they make, I think the word *pressure* is not a common place in their vocabulary, and IMHO, they will release a new album between now and mid 2K, so they can play it live in Hannover, returning a smile (and a good chunk of DM's) back to the EXPO 2K organizers. KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Morgan" Subject: (kw) expo fuss Date: 12 Jul 1999 18:00:04 +0100 I am not sure what all the fuss is about regarding Kraftwerk's Jingle. Jingles , like advertising logo's can cost a fortune and make even more money. The controversy alone regarding the Jingle is probably giving the Expo more advertising and marketing than the organisers could have dreamed of.... And for an investment that would not have paid for a single page newspaper advert. I wonder why the news was "leaked" to the press...not an accident I am sure. Technically, a jingle has to be short and memorable, sharp and convey an image. I think the Jingle conveys the future and the concept of embracing Europe with its many languages.. simply and precisely. The Jingle though sounds as if it is a vocal track lifted from a real track It sounds as if it is the counter harmony to a tune.. I really wont be surprised to hear a full piece with the same vocals floating over it, just like TDF or telephone call. I would not support a waste of money but this time I think that both Kraftwerk and Expo are probably very cleaver. Both getting lots of publicity and free marketing..... personally I would not have even known that the Expo existed if it was not for all the fuss. All in all I think its rather sharp move. Cheers from Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mm@UDel.Edu (Mike Markowski) Subject: (kw) Re: Tone Float Date: 12 Jul 1999 13:08:51 -0400 On Jul 11, Vladimir Ivaschenko wrote: > Subject: Tone Float. > > In order not to duplicate efforts, I replaced Warfield with Tone Float. > http://www.chat.ru/~alexfedorov. Thanks very much, Vladimir! That's really nice of you to make it all available. And as a tip for Unix/Linux users, I've found the tool 'wget' to be great for downloading sites like Vladimir's and Michael D's (and thanks, too, Michael, for your WF site!). Wget is a Gnu tool at ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/wget/ In the case of Vladimir and me, connections between his site and my machine can't be maintained reliably, but wget retries when the connection is lost and then skips over data already downloaded. For example, I used the command wget -r -L http://freehosting2.at.webjump.com/kw/kwerdl-webjump/files/ to grab everything in one shot (which still took an hour or two on a T3 line due to lost connections, retries, etc.). I used a similar command to grab the Warfield concert: wget -r -L http://pebbles.geosys.com/mjd/Warfield/ For what it's worth, Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) KW voices Date: 12 Jul 1999 10:31:56 -0700 >Tom wrote: >Does Bartos sing on the album ? Yes, he sings on EM's 2nd album. >Arnaud de Bonald wrote: >I would not be surprized if Barto has writen "The telephone Call" or maybe only the lirycs of this song. Maybe he did, I don't know. Anyway, this gives me an opportunity for asking the following question to the list: Did Wolfgang and/or Karl, had part on ANY of KW's lead vocals at all? Now that I recognize their voices, it's hard for me to relate them to any KW song. KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Ivaschenko Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Tone Float Date: 12 Jul 1999 20:35:56 +0400 Mike Markowski wrote: > > And as a tip for Unix/Linux users, I've found the tool 'wget' to be great > for downloading sites like Vladimir's and Michael D's (and thanks, too, > Michael, for your WF site!). Wget is a Gnu tool at > > ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/wget/ > I use it myself ;-) > to grab everything in one shot (which still took an hour or two on a > T3 line due to lost connections, retries, etc.). I used a similar command I'm searching for someone who will agree to host at least a part of my KW archive online (full list available at http://www.chat.ru/~alexfedorov, click on list link) - please email me privately if you can offer something. Sorry for offtopic post. -- Best Regards Vladimir Ivaschenko http://www.hazard.maks.net/~hazard # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) KW voices Date: 12 Jul 1999 20:23:07 +0200 On Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:31:56 -0700, Enrique Correa wrote: >Anyway, this gives me an opportunity for asking the following question to >the list: >Did Wolfgang and/or Karl, had part on ANY of KW's lead vocals at all? Yes, Karl sings for "The Telephone Call" . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Dreiklangsdimensionen Date: 09 Jul 1999 19:15:54 +0000 > > The English version of FanFanFanatic also lists a certain E. Schult under > > the credits. I'm not sure, but it could be Emil Schult, who did some of the > > German to English translations for KW as well...... > > I'm fairly certain it is Emil Schult. Can't check it right now, as I don't > have my records handy... Yes, it is Emil Schult. > > I'm not 100 % sure, but I think that this compilation includes the > > single edit of the version that is supposed to be remixed by Karl > > Bartos / Elektric Music. > > Hmm... I've held the 12" of the 1990 remix (don't own it myself, but a > friend does), and it doesn't say anything about Bartos or Elektric Music > anywhere on the sleeve. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean > anything... The Bartos / Elektric Music involvement was once reported in the Kraftwerk fanzine Aktivitaet, and I've heard this also from somebody else (no Aktivitaet reader), so there might be a chance that it's actually true... Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Dreiklangsdimensionen Date: 09 Jul 1999 19:15:54 +0000 > > The English version of FanFanFanatic also lists a certain E. Schult under > > the credits. I'm not sure, but it could be Emil Schult, who did some of the > > German to English translations for KW as well...... > > I'm fairly certain it is Emil Schult. Can't check it right now, as I don't > have my records handy... Yes, it is Emil Schult. > > I'm not 100 % sure, but I think that this compilation includes the > > single edit of the version that is supposed to be remixed by Karl > > Bartos / Elektric Music. > > Hmm... I've held the 12" of the 1990 remix (don't own it myself, but a > friend does), and it doesn't say anything about Bartos or Elektric Music > anywhere on the sleeve. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean > anything... The Bartos / Elektric Music involvement was once reported in the Kraftwerk fanzine Aktivitaet, and I've heard this also from somebody else (no Aktivitaet reader), so there might be a chance that it's actually true... Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anders Wahlbom Subject: (kw) Re: Dreiklangsdimensionen Date: 09 Jul 1999 18:34:07 +0200 (MET DST) About Rheingold: > It was made by a german group called Rheingold, they use quite a lot of > synthesizers, but the music doesn't sound anything like KW. There is also an > English version available : Triad Dimensions. "Triad dimensions keep singing/Lightplay impressions keep swinging"... Still it's better than "River", the English version of "Fluss". > They had about three hits in Germany: Dreiklangsdimensionen, Fluss (River) > and Fan-Fan-Fanatic. What about "Das steht dir gut" or "Computerbeat"? > Rheingold was a trio, Bodo Staiger (guitar, vocals),Lothar Manteuffel > (textwriter) and Brigitte Kunze (keyboards). > (info found at: http://www.ichwillspass.de/rheingol.htm) I've made an almost complete discography at: http://www.update.uu.se/~awahlbom/text/discog/rheingold/ > The English version of FanFanFanatic also lists a certain E. Schult under > the credits. I'm not sure, but it could be Emil Schult, who did some of the > German to English translations for KW as well...... I'm fairly certain it is Emil Schult. Can't check it right now, as I don't have my records handy... And then Klaus wrote: > I'm not 100 % sure, but I think that this compilation includes the > single edit of the version that is supposed to be remixed by Karl > Bartos / Elektric Music. Hmm... I've held the 12" of the 1990 remix (don't own it myself, but a friend does), and it doesn't say anything about Bartos or Elektric Music anywhere on the sleeve. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean anything... Anders Wahlbom | http://www.update.uu.se/~awahlbom/ (Finger for geek code) | http://www.cutoff.se/dss NOW PLAYING: John Foxx: _Assembly_ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Dangermond" Subject: (kw) Response to Warfield thanks. - Anyone have Karlsruhe complete? Date: 12 Jul 1999 18:53:53 -0400 Your welcome... CDs of the Warfield concert bootlegs, from what I've heard, have been selling for $50 - $200 on ebay. Someone is making a ton of money off of these recordings. The sound is the best of any bootleg recording I've heard of Kraftwerk. Just listen to the opening of 'radioactivity'. I haven't heard a thing from our IT staff about these postings, and I *believe* the space is mine to use. I would like to request that if you can, please restrict your downloads to non-office hours Eastern time (GMT -4). If I hear any negative comments from them about them being there, off they come from the site... I think there's room on the website to post the entire Karlsruhe concert as well. I have an incomplete set of these recordings. If someone has those mp3s in their entirety, please contact me. The sound isn't as good as the Warfield but the German versions of the songs are somehow, inexplicably better. From what I've heard of the Karlsruhe concert there is a heightened excitement and wonderful and creative manipulation of sound from the band. Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (kw) Tone Float Date: 12 Jul 1999 14:30:47 PDT Vladimir, thank you very much for posting those Tone Float MP3's !!! IT IS EXTREMELY APPRECIATED !!!! Now if you could post Kraftwerk 1 & 2 and Ralf & Florian, that would make everyone's dreams come true !!!! NoiseWerker _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) Tone Float Date: 12 Jul 1999 17:34:19 -0600 (MDT) On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Juno Jackson wrote: > Now if you could post Kraftwerk 1 & 2 and Ralf & Florian, that would make > everyone's dreams come true !!!! Well, everyone except those of us that already have KW 1&2 and R&F. :) /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * Microsoft software: It may bloated, but at least it's slow. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Gracias, thanks, danke, grazie, obrigado, arigato, merci Date: 12 Jul 1999 17:09:23 -0700 Thanks to all of you who are posting audio files on the net! You help make our KW world a better place! Best regards to all of you, Sincerely Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) AB-CD update Date: 12 Jul 1999 17:37:46 -0700 FYI, there's some new KW stuff at AB-CD: Tour de France EP+ 3 tracks: $ 9.99 CD (Germany) Coming soon... (7/19/1999) "Enter the mix Depeche Mode Vs. Kraftwerk" Various artists $29.97 CD (Import) KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Gracias, thanks, danke, grazie, obrigado, arigato, merci Date: 12 Jul 1999 17:09:23 -0700 Thanks to all of you who are posting audio files on the net! You help make our KW world a better place! Best regards to all of you, Sincerely Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Priscila Morsoletto" Subject: Re: (kw) KW voices Date: 13 Jul 1999 00:51:10 -0300 Greetings, >>Anyway, this gives me an opportunity for asking the following question to >>the list: >>Did Wolfgang and/or Karl, had part on ANY of KW's lead vocals at all? >Yes, Karl sings for "The Telephone Call" . Maybe I'm wrong, but I think Wolfgang sing "Der Telefon Anruf" - first bacause I never hear a voice like this one (to me it's not Ralf, Florian or even Karl!) and always, Wolfgang appear singing in the promo video! Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Karlsruhe MP3s Date: 11 Jul 1999 19:13:52 +0200 On Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:13:33 -0400, Erik J. Eid wrote: >I don't remember seeing Taschenrechner (Pocket Calculator) out there. Did >I miss it? If so, is it available somewhere else? I think I have posted it afew weeks ago... If it were not the case, I will post it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lbo Subject: Re: (kw) expo fuss Date: 13 Jul 1999 17:54:48 +0200 > All in all I think its rather sharp move. sharp, maybe, but unethical. now that I know that exist such an expo I don't have a bright opinion of them. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) KW voices Date: 13 Jul 1999 11:01:33 -0700 >Paul Martland wrote: >According to his interviw in Pascal Bussy's book Karl did sing on the telephone call. >But apparently Ralf directed him so much that he ended up sounding like Ralf. Arnaud de Bonald wrote: >Yes, Karl sings for "The Telephone Call" Angelo wrote: >I have opinion what The Telephone Call is singed by Ralf ! >Priscila wrote: >Maybe I'm wrong, but I think Wolfgang sing "Der Telefon Anruf" I have to agree with Pascal, Paul and Arnaud. Karl Bartos is the lead voice in "The Telephone Call", "Der Telefon Anruf", and he sounds very Hutter-ish. When recording it, KB probably thought... hey I'm not too bad after all... I can do this all by myself, without having a Kaiser -read: Ralf- directing my every move... yes... that's it... I'll start my own band... my job here is kaput... I'm leaving these lazy robots, so I can write, record and release all the pop-love songs I want ;-) Karl, if you're reading this (I'm so naive!): Danke you very much for "Esperanto" and "Electric Music"!!! I love you man, no matter what they say about you! >Enrique Correa wrote: >The way I see it, they only have three choices: >1. Wait for the release of a new album until this whole jingle fiasco goes >away, and start the millenium fresh... >2. Go ahead and release a new album now, in the middle of the storm taking >the risk of being boycotted in their own land... >3. Take a trip to Hawaii and blow DM 400K in Margaritas and Hula-Hula >dances, and don't worry about the new album... I just thought of a 4th choice: 4. None of the above and be, once more: unpredictable. KW, Bartos & Flur (Iloveu2, Wolfgang) 4EVER! Enrique n.p.: Kraftwelt "Electric Dimension" (I got hooked on that one!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OGO Yoichiro Subject: (kw) New Uk Release(CD Universe)!? Date: 14 Jul 1999 03:24:12 +0900 Hi all, I found "Kraftwerk" album at CD Universe. http://www.cduniverse.com ------ Title : Kraftwerk Street Date : August 03 ,1999 CD List Price 26.97(USD) Label : PID Catalog # 542272 UPC 76648542272 Additional Info Import-Uk ------ Does anyone know this album's detail? and what is the PID Label? (I searched 'PID label' but I can't find it) OGO Yoichiro -------- Kraftwerk Mailing List Japan http://i.am/Kraftwerk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alex Brega" Subject: (kw) Linz concert Date: 13 Jul 1999 11:23:10 PDT Guten Abend ! I'm searching for Linz 1997 live recording,better if in mp3 format to be downloaded from an ftp. I can change with one of these whole exibitions : Milan 1991 (superb DAT recording,even better than Warfield) Roskilde98,Barcelona98,Detroit98,Tokyo98,Milan81,Bologna90. If someone is interested,please answer to nicolabrega@hotmail.com Alex Auf wiedersen ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) New Uk Release(CD Universe)!? Date: 13 Jul 1999 13:21:24 -0700 >OGO Yoichiro wrote: >Title : Kraftwerk >Street Date : August 03 ,1999 [...] >and what is the PID Label? I don't know, but my gut feeling is that *PID* is not a label name but an abbreviation of some sort (maybe: Process ID Number, or Process/Protocol IDentifier) That particular CD can also be found at: http://www.cdworld.com: KRAFTWERK + + NEW RELEASE + + "KRAFTWERK" IMPORT-UNITED KINGDOM.. PID #542272 .. Streetdate: August 3, 1999 List: $26.97 . Buy Compact Disc: $20.97 and at: http://www.amazon.com: Kraftwerk [IMPORT] "Kraftwerk" Our Price: $26.97 Audio CD (August 3, 1999) Pid; ASIN: B00000JS9D Anyway, lets keep our fingers crossed. KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Karl Bartos/Kraftwerk CD Date: 14 Jul 1999 09:22:08 +0100 Enrique wrote When recording it,(der telefon anruf) KB probably thought... hey I'm not too bad after all... I can do this all by myself, without having a Kaiser -read: Ralf- directing my every move... yes... that's it... I'll start my own band... my job here is kaput... I'm leaving these lazy robots, so I can write, record and release all the pop-love songs I want ;-) He's right, more or less. If you read the Pascal Bussy book you'll find that he got bored hanging around. Especially when they were doing the mix as it did not involve Karl or Wolfgang. If you haven't read the book, I'd recommend it . Anymore news on the KW CD for August release. Is it KW1. If it is what's the big deal. It's easily obtainable in England. All my local store hold it. Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) New Kraftwerk CD Date: 14 Jul 1999 13:58:34 +0100 I've just visited the newly constructed EMI/Chrysalis UK site. The site's pretty crappy as it seems to be still under construction, but on the KW page there's a blank with the tantalising legend 'New picture coming soon'. it may well be just that -a new picture but who knows. The annoying thing is on the MP3 files available on the site EMI have a clip of 'The Robots' This pisses me off. Man Machine has not been available in England for at least two years- not because it has been deleted from the EMI catalogue but just because they haven't commissioned any new stock. And two years ago they crowed about the 2CD re-issue with both English and German versions of tracks and actually had it reviewed and then they pulled it. Let's e-mail them and complain. Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) I'm working harder then Kraftwerk... Date: 14 Jul 1999 19:16:04 +0100 I've made a lot of updates to the Kraftwerk FAQ and to my list of Kraftwerk links (enough to keep you busy for days...). http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/changes.html - recent changes to FAQ http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/links.html - links I need to make many more updates to the FAQ, but at least now the CD release of Tour de France is mentioned, as is the controversy surrounding the Expo 2000 jingle and various other bits and pieces... Back to the salt mines... KB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Knight Subject: (kw) How do the ROBOTS work? Date: 14 Jul 1999 19:39:53 -0400 Sine I am involved in computer controlled machinery, (I Program & Operate a Wire EDM Machine) I am interested in the actual "Robots" used by Kraftwerk.. I know that the movements of the "ROBOTS" are by servo motors or stepper motors, I was wondering what the (Kraftwerk) use to control them? my ideas are : CNC control using G codes & M codes (This is what I use to program the movement of the wire to cut patterns in the pieces of steel) PLC ( Not sure what the language is but, I know that it is used to control certain manufacturing machines) or your standard computer language I.E. C+, C++, Cobol, Basic, Etc... Any information would be appreciated! Eric Knight AKA= ericknig@sprynet.com Kraftwerk...... A way of life ! Home page:http://home.sprynet.com/~ericknig/kraftwerk.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RoBot Subject: Re: (kw) How do the ROBOTS work? Date: 15 Jul 1999 01:50:41 +0200 Why not MIDI? ;P a thought: Each motor responds to a Midi controller, and then we have midi channels for each robot (Ralf = channel 1) Midi supports 128 steps, so that will be enough to make pretty smooth moves.. And it's in sync with the music perfectly. Midi => Stepping motor signals isn't too hard to build with only hardware.. //Roboten (CV/Gate controlled) Check out our new CD at http://average.nu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rochow@pixelmagic.com Subject: Re:(kw) How do the ROBOTS work? Date: 14 Jul 1999 20:07:38 -0400 I don't know exactly what they use, but in the Mensch Meier appearance in '91, of the 4 (of course) computers they had, 2 generic dark laptops apparently controlled the stack of rackmount synths they had in the middle (ever so dynamic, Ralf (or Florian) several times hit the num-pad Enter key on the first beat of a bar with a rythm or melody change - judging by the preprogrammed robots and video, not believable <:) , while the Atari ST obviously supplied the onscreen Roboter lyrics (and 4-screen video swiching? It's been too long; my tape of it has been missing for a few years now); the forth computer was a small steel-cased console machine with only 40-50 keys, which looked a lot like early-to-mid-80s custom keyboards made for Sinclair machines - it wouldn't surprise me if that was a ZX Spectrum with built-in microdrive, ROM, or battery-RAM storage, in which case the control language is Sinclair Basic or Z80 machine code. On the other hand, it could be that that was the video switching device (I can't quite remember, but I think that the robots' camera video (blue-screen as backing) were combined with the Atari lettering on the stage TVs (and thus also occasionally on the broadcast video) - which would likely make the Atari the robot controller - likely with Gfa- or Omicron-Basic, or maybe some contemporary C-compiler. Considering their speed, they don't require a lot of compute power, though... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: (kw) TDF Date: 15 Jul 1999 02:20:00 EDT I just saw an other "Tour De France" CD on eBay with only hours left, and the price has gone up to $70.00 (the starting bid was $2.00). The description clearly stated the CD was a 1999 issue. I'm sad to say that I myself do not have this single yet. My local record shop told me to wait a couple of weeks. Oh well. I will be traveling abroad over the next couple of days (Coulmbus, Ohio and Ann Arbor, Michingan). Perhaps I can find my own TDF. Sam Paterson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Sister Ray Records Date: 15 Jul 1999 11:46:17 +0100 Sister Ray in London have a number of KW Items. Check them out at: http://www.sisterray.co.uk/catalog.htm Does anyone know anything about Computersymphonies and Lauschangriff? PS I 've ordered from Sister Ray in the past and they've always been pretty good. Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eugene Zaikonnikov" Subject: Re: (kw) How do the ROBOTS work? Date: 15 Jul 1999 14:50:56 +0300 > or your standard computer language I.E. C+, C++, Cobol, Basic, Etc... > Gosh, hope they didn't use Cobol, otherwise lovely robots may not endure Year 2000 :) Speaking seriously, I doubt that KW used some very custom hardware. There's plenty of cheap robot control boards with burnt-in BASIC on the market, and programming a simple mechanism without feedback shouldn't be very hard. -- Eugene. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) Computersymphonies and Lauschangriff Date: 15 Jul 1999 08:37:27 -0700 >Paul Martland wrote:=20 >Does anyone know anything about Computersymphonies and Lauschangriff? "Lauschangriff" is a double live bootleg CD which features the 1991 D=FCsseldorf concert, plus these *bonus* tracks: Radio-Activity (1976 = Single Edit), Showroom Dummies (1977 Single Edit), Trans Europa Express = (Single Edit), Tour de France (Remix Single Edit), Numbers (Remix, 1982), = Musique Non Stop (12" Version), Der Telefon Anruf (7" Version), Tour de France (Instrumental), Kometenmelodie 2 (1975 Single Version), Autobahn (1981 Single Version), Kohoutek 1, Autobahn (1975 Single Version), = Radioactivity (William Orbit 7" Remix), Robotronik (7" Version), The Telephone Call = (7" Version) and Die Roboter (Kinderspiel-Version).=20 "Computersinfonien" is also a double bootleg CD from the 1997 ZKM = concert (with the three new songs), plus four additional tracks: Radioactivity (William Orbit remix), The Robots (Ultimix), Musique non Stop (single = ver.) and TEE (single ver.) I have both CD's and the sound is good, but if I have to choose, I'll = go with "Computersinfonien" FYI, this is a good source for KW bootleg info: http://www4.big.or.jp/~blanks/kraft/boots/frame/index.html KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk store Date: 15 Jul 1999 20:09:33 +0200 Here's a link to a Dutch store selling many Kraftwerk items, some rare items are rather cheap I think! http://www.groove.nl/kw_nl.html I thought some of you might be interested... - Marco - + ----> T H E S Y N T H P O P N E T W O R K <---- + | | | From Now On You Need Only Remember One Address: | | http://www.spn.nu | | ICQ: 1671395| + --------- T H E O N L Y P A G E O F A L L P A G E S -------- + # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rochow@pixelmagic.com Subject: (kw) William Orbit Date: 15 Jul 1999 20:33:09 -0400 I noticed William Orbit in the credits (not sure under what heading, but I caught 2 of the other 3 names with it and they were very musical-group-sounding) of a PBS show on space travel, which I didn't watch, so I didn't hear any music... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Pitt" Subject: (kw) Tour De Kraft update Date: 16 Jul 1999 01:29:45 +0100 New 1981 live MP3's now online: Metropolis and from the Computers In Love Bootleg; Numbers Computer World and the cover version is 'Showroom Dummies' performed by Thee Hyphen from the 'Krafty Move' tribute cd. Mike. Kraftwerk 1981 Live music and Cover Versions. http://website.lineone.net/~mike.pitt/tdk.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "CH-ROBOTER" Subject: (kw) The 3rd New Song Date: 15 Jul 1999 23:44:53 -0400 In linz and in Karlsruhe, KW played 3 new songs, 2 of these, "Airwaves/new song" and "Tribal/Nummweltverschmutzung" , are the more commented. But and the third song? I have this song in Lichtgestalten and Computersinfonien CD's . According to the Lichtgestalten CD, the name of the 3rd new song is "Lichtof" (Remember that this CD is labeled as Klinklang Produckt) Has Somebody more information of this song? Like photos or a description of this song in some of the concerts (as what appeared in the screens, the illumination, etc.) Best Regards, Mauricio Http://members.xoom.com/werker # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) How do the ROBOTS work? Date: 16 Jul 1999 04:48:38 EDT In a message dated 15/07/99 13:46:07 GMT Daylight Time, viking@cit.org.by writes: << There's plenty of cheap robot control boards with burnt-in BASIC on the market, and programming a simple mechanism without feedback shouldn't be very hard. >> couldn't they use MIDI, at least that way they could make the damn things move in time. KAH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward_Mordaunt@haygroup.com Subject: (kw) Electric Music on XFM Date: 16 Jul 1999 09:48:29 +0100 Listening to the London station XFM last night i heard a trailer for a show at 10pm on Saturday called Future Music which said it would be featuring Electric Music - no other details though... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Music - the universal language Date: 16 Jul 1999 15:06:35 +0200 Huggy Bear wrote: > I'm certain that German is their native language (duh...), >their >English is fine...perhaps others on the list can tell how good is their >(well, Ralfs, anyway) control of other languages? Their French is much better than their English. But their Spanish is not so good. Laura Lopez Van dam wrote: >Well, it's quite a personal opinion, but I think their Spanish is not bad. Not terrible but really no good. >Can anyone think of any other group or artist that is fluent in as many >languages? Karol Wojtyla. ;-) Didi wrote: >Yes, Righeira! And Franco Battiato! BTW, Is there an English (or even Spanish) URL of EMI label? DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Warfield Date: 16 Jul 1999 17:55:22 +0100 Thanks to Michael I am now hooked on the Warfield soundboard recording. If anyone knows where I can get a CD copy of this please mail me privately Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike" Subject: (kw) TDF enhanced CD single Date: 16 Jul 1999 14:05:47 +0100 Well folks today I was in HMV on Oxford St. Just being unpacked today and broadcast over the sound system was Tour De Frande enhanced CD single. Its an import =A37.99. They seemed to have a box of them. It claims to be digitally remastered in 1999 The sound quality is very very clean and it seems that some of the stereo sounds have been repositioned but its basically the single, Kevorkian rem= ix and King Klang analog mix ( all the old mixes) The treat is the Apple quicktime video track which actually uses the fren= ch version of the single which is fun. Bad news is the quality of the video = is dreadful it's a real blocky jumpy video. The audio track to the video has= an alarming splice in the middle where the track jumps into an instrumental break. But it is a nice extra and great to have been able to get a copy. It really would have been innovative though if they had released it as a = DVD video single ( but Bjork got there first) So at last kraftwerk have now released TDF officially on CD and with the great sound quality it really is worth the while to grab a copy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John B. Morgan" Subject: Re: (kw) TDF enhanced CD single Date: 16 Jul 1999 13:46:58 -0400 (EDT) Does anyone know if the single is going to be released in the US in the near future? ******************************************************************************* John Morgan "I must invent my own system, or be Student Services, enslaved by another man's." The University of Michigan --William Blake LS&A Honors Program http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jbmorgan/ including The Colin Wilson Page # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) William Orbit goodies Date: 16 Jul 1999 11:02:41 -0700 From W/O's official site @ http://www.williamorbit.com/online.html "William Orbit has kindly signed & donated copies of each Strange Cargo album (1-3 & Hinterland), Torch Song 'Toward the unknown region' and Madonna's 'Ray of Light'. Want to win a copy? All you have to do is vote for your 10 all time favorite William Orbit tracks - including Strange Cargo, Torch Song, Bassomatic, production work and remixes (and yes, even Kraftwerk's "Radioactivity"). Choose what you would like to see on a 'Best of William Orbit' compilation. Winners will be selected at random (and notified by Email) from the voting forms filled out which are sent to a database. You can only vote once, but you have a second chance of winning one of these signed CD's by entering the free competition." I thought I share this survey/competition with you. I know there are many W/O fans outhere. Good luck! FYI, "Radioactivity" is at number 50 with 7 votes so far :-( KW&WO4EVER! Enrique n.p.: "Mamouna" Bryan Ferry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) KWAugustRelease Date: 16 Jul 1999 17:52:08 +0100 I've just had an email from Martin Nutley at EMI UK. The August release is not one of theirs. He is unaware of any licensing arrangements with other UK record companies. It also seems that Man Machine has now been deleted from the EMI UK catalogue. If anyone feels like e-mailing him (and EMI) to get them to release the double re-issue they planned, and got reviewed two years ago his e mail is martin.nutley@emimusic.com Let's put some pressure on him. Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) Warfield MP3's are gone Date: 16 Jul 1999 21:50:06 +0200 Hello, Too bad that the Warfield MP3's are gone. HOwever, I thank the person who made them available (sorry, I forgot your name). I may offer some FTP space if someone can upload them somewhere. Please contact me privately at bonald@worldnet.fr if you are ok to help. Arnaud # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ALR" Subject: (kw) New Kraftwerk Image Date: 17 Jul 1999 06:41:06 +1000 The Expo2000 site : http://www.expo2000.de/englisch/eprogramm/kraftwerk_dl.html has a few of new images the band. A new graphic for the band and what seems like R&F at a futuristic train station. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Dangermond" Subject: (kw) Expo2000 - Warfield mp3s are gone... Date: 16 Jul 1999 17:27:16 -0400 Does anyone have a date when Kraftwerk will be performing at Expo2000 in Hannover? I was planning on going to the exhibition anyway and this would be just another plus! ----------- About the Warfield mp3s: Someone who offered to sell me a bootleg of the Warfield Concert for $50 followed up later by asking me if I was afraid my company would be sued having the mp3s up there. So I decided to take them down for the time being. I would like to hear if the group themselves would mind these being on the internet, since someone is making money from them, presumably illegally, hand over fist. Michael Dangermond www.c-zone.net/dcarto # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97,3 FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) NEW YORK`s video !! Date: 16 Jul 1999 19:35:15 -0300 Hi "werkers" . This add was posted again. Maybe you don`t know the new... Well, I have the NEW YORK`s concert on VHS (recorded in 1998). Total running: 1 hour or more. This videotape includes two new songs and shows good closes of Ralf Hutter and cia. Sounds & Images very good. Are you interested ? Please, write me privately. Thanks ! 97 FM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Survey Date: 16 Jul 1999 16:20:45 -0700 >Michael Dangermond wrote: >I would like to hear if the group themselves would mind these being on the internet, since someone is making money from them, presumably illegally, hand over fist. Boy, is this a touchy subject or what. Well, I don't know of any music artist that is pro-illegal. Whenever someone writes, in this case, a piece of music, deserves the right of getting paid for it. Their music should only be used with the artist/label permission. As far as I know, all of the artists and foremost, the labels are against bootlegs, internet postings and the likes. This is very reasonable and the law is behind them. That's why in most venues organizers don't let you in with any recording and/or photo equipment at all. In the particular case of KW and their label, I see that they aren't doing much against people making money off their stuff. Contrary to groups like King Crimson, whom have being very outspoken about illegal stuff, even at the point of calling one of their live CD's: "B-Boom: Official Bootleg - Live in Argentina" and JMJ who, in the other hand, tries to legally release every concert he's got, giving the illegal marketers little room to breathe. Heck, even Tangerine Dream legally released plenty of their live stuff throughout the years, making every single one of their fans pretty happy. Unfortunately for us, KW took the back seat on the illegally copied live concerts subject, and we all suffer the consequences having to pay ridiculous amounts of money for boot's of dubious origin. I'm not quite sure what their point of view is about their music being plagiarized again and again and again. I love to download free stuff, buy bootlegs, and the whole nine yards; and I recognize that all I'm doing is satisfying the selfish side of me, and being disrespectful to the artist rights; but hey, if I have to wait until they do something about it, I'll probably get very old before I can get my hands on some juicy, fresh out of the oven, legal, good quality -blessed by Ralf and Florian- live KW recording. In the meantime, I would like the ask the following questions to the list, regardless of their political correctness: 1. Which KW bootleg has the best sound quality? 2. Which KW tribute song or album do you prefer? 3. Which KW sound-alike band do like better? KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) Survey Date: 16 Jul 1999 17:35:26 -0600 (MDT) On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Enrique Correa wrote: > In the meantime, I would like the ask the following questions to the list, > regardless of their political correctness: > 1. Which KW bootleg has the best sound quality? Don't know. Probably the Warfield one if it's anything like the MP3s. > 2. Which KW tribute song or album do you prefer? Trancewerk Express volumes 1 and 2 are both very good. > 3. Which KW sound-alike band do like better? Komputer and Kraftwelt. Kraftwelt is more original, but Komputer sounds more like Kraftwerk. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * Microsoft software: It may bloated, but at least it's slow. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) Survey Date: 16 Jul 1999 20:51:27 -0700 On Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:20:45 -0700 Enrique Correa writes: > > >>Michael Dangermond wrote: >>I would like to hear if the group themselves would mind these being >on the >internet, since someone is making money from them, presumably >illegally, >hand over fist. > >Boy, is this a touchy subject or what. take it from someone who's been taping shows since 1976 (2000+ at last count)...when morality starts entering into your fun, its time to give it up...personally, i dont give a crap if they are losing money or not...i buy a ticket, i get a good spot, and i tape...anything and everything...i dont press, but enough of my masters have been...do i care? nope... tom w np kw @ ritz 1981 (dont be fooled; any decent copy out there is from my master; ive offered it here b4; come and get it...oh, i have the master of the 98 show too) ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Survey Date: 17 Jul 1999 01:26:13 EDT >I don't know of any music artist that is pro-illegal. Groups like Sonic Youth and The Flaming Lips both seem to be behind certain bootlegs of them that exist. Perhaps they just like working around the record label. I dunno. I'm pretty sure that SY is pro-bootleg even when they are not involved. When I saw Trumans Water a couple of months ago, my friend got a soundboard recording of the (first) show. We talked to the band and they seemed to be into us bootleging the recording. At the second show, they were very aware of a man videotaping the performance with a digital camera (which I've been waiting for a copy of, as I was able to perform onstage with the group doing Gary Numan's "Cars"). >Contrary to groups like King Crimson, whom have being very outspoken about illegal stuff This seems very true. When I saw Projekct Two last summer, Robert Fripp saw some guy taking photographs and stormed offstage. The rest of the group (Trey Gunn and Adrian Belew) followed. They did not return until the camera was brought up to the sound desk. The audience was pissed that the show had been stopped and I thought they were going to kick the guy's ass. I'm not going to be very good at this survey. 1. Which KW bootleg has the best sound quality? I only have boots of the early albums. The Germanofon albums definitely sound better than the anonymous Tone Float. Perhaps Ralf & Florian is the best. 2. Which KW tribute song or album do you prefer? The only album I've heard is Terre Thaemlitz's "Die Roboter Rubato" (piano interpretations of Kraftwerk) and I don't think it is anything special. The only song I have heard is Rammstein's "Das Modell" and it is not very good for Rammstein. 3. Which KW sound-alike band do like better? The closest I get to KW sound-alike is David Bowie and Stereolab and it would be pretty inaccurate to classify them as such. I hope I didn't piss everyone off by my long and inconclusive statements, but to be a good list member I must participate in these list happenings. Sam Paterson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo2000 - Warfield mp3s are gone... Date: 17 Jul 1999 09:59:34 +0200 On Fri, 16 Jul 1999 17:27:16 -0400, Michael Dangermond wrote: >About the Warfield mp3s: > >Someone who offered to sell me a bootleg of the Warfield Concert for $50 >followed up later by asking me if I was afraid my company would be sued >having the mp3s up there. So I decided to take them down for the time >being. I would like to hear if the group themselves would mind these being >on the internet, since someone is making money from them, presumably >illegally, hand over fist. > a shame really !!!!! Well, as I said, I can host these files on a friend's FTP server. The only thing is that I only have myself 8 of the 14 files, and my connection here is too slow to upload them. So, if someone can upload the files, I have a place to put them. Arnaud # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk in austrian teletext Date: 17 Jul 1999 10:19:59 +0200 Kraftwerk's "new" release features an little review (with some "mistakes" in it ;-) ) in the ORF-Teletext today on page 402. I know, 99% of the people on this list here cannot watch austrian television ;-) so here's the original text (in german, of course ;-) ): Die "Tour de France" auf Maxi-CD Die Fans warten noch immer auf etwas neues von Kraftwerk - die Plattenfirma tr=F6stet uns nun mit der Ver=F6ffentlichung einer CD-Maxi a= uf der die Nummer "Tour de France" zu finden ist. F=FCr Sammler erschien eine 5inch-CD-Enhanced sowie eine 12inch-Maxi-Vinyl-Scheibe. Kraftwerk wurde 1970 gegr=FCndet und entwickelte aich zum Kult-Projekt. Erfolge verzeichnete sie u.a. mit den Titeln "Autobahn" und "Models". Die letzte LP erschien 1981. Gruesse aus Wien, Georgie --=20 * "Synthetic electronic sounds, industrial rhythms all around..." * * ...heute Abend aus Deutschland: KRAFTWERK * * Georg Jajus - Vienna - Austria * * * http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * phone & SMS: +436765621850 * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wolfhardt.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: (kw) "Tour de France" entered the German Charts Date: 17 Jul 1999 15:23:40 +0200 Hello, according to VIVA-TEXT KRAFTWERK's "Tour de France" is No 92 in Germany now. Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) Expo2000 - Warfield mp3s are gone... Date: 17 Jul 1999 09:45:50 -0600 (MDT) On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Arnaud de Bonald wrote: > Well, as I said, I can host these files on a friend's FTP server. > The only thing is that I only have myself 8 of the 14 files, and my connection here is too slow to upload them. > So, if someone can upload the files, I have a place to put them. I have all of them. Unless someone else has already offered, e-mail me privately and tell me how and where to upload them. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * Microsoft software: It may bloated, but at least it's slow. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eduardo H. Q. AVELLAR" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk / Divine Comedy Date: 17 Jul 1999 14:42:47 -0300 Hi to all. Here goes a question a friend did to me, but I could not answer - maybe someone from the list can (Klaus?!?!) :-)), as he has no access to our wonderful list... >Do you know 'The Divine Comedy'? >Their 5-inch single titled 'National Express' has >Radioactivity - (unreleased Kraftwerk studio version). >Do you know this song? Is it truely played by Kraftwerk? That's all I've got. Thanks for any help. AVELLAR. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "PITT, Mike" Subject: RE: (kw) Survey Date: 17 Jul 1999 03:26:15 +0100 Dateline: Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Enrique Correa reports... >> In the meantime, I would like the ask the following questions to the list, >> regardless of their political correctness: >> 1. Which KW bootleg has the best sound quality? 1998 - Warfield 1981 - Computers In Love 1975 - Classic Concerts ( If you can call it a boot) > 2. Which KW tribute song or album do you prefer? Best Album - Basskraft (now freely available at HMV in the UK) Best song - Computer Love by Slipstream. > 3. Which KW sound-alike band do like better? Komputer - for the track 'Valentina' alone. So embodied in 'Kraftwerkiness', R&F could have written it. 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (kw) Rammstein cover Date: 17 Jul 1999 00:28:03 PDT Does anyone know where I can find an MP3 of Rammstein's cover of "The Model" ? Is there also an English version available as well ? NoiseWerker _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nate Ward Subject: (kw) The Kraftwerk Survey Date: 17 Jul 1999 19:03:18 -0400 Hi In response to the survey: 1. Which KW bootleg has the best sound quality? The only ones I have ever heard are the Germanofon early Kraftwerk bootlegs and I don't even own them so I can't pass very good judgement. They sound good to me. 2. Which KW tribute song or album do you prefer? While Rammstein is nowhere near an enjoyable band to listen to, their cover of Das Modell is interesting. 3. Which KW sound-alike band do like better? The Super Mardi-Gras Brothers. Those guys kick ass! As for groups being pro-bootleg, I think that most uilleann pipers are supportive of their playing in concerts, albums, etc. being recorded and distributed among other pipers as a form of sharing playing styles, etc. This is probably true for most traditional musicians. Nate Og Ward ps: I can play Neon Lights on my uilleann pipes (although really half-assedly) in case anyone cares. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: Re: (kw) Survey Date: 18 Jul 1999 17:31:39 -0400 ] 1. Which KW bootleg has the best sound quality? Mannheim 1997. ] 2. Which KW tribute song or album do you prefer? Toccata Electronica. im not sure if this is a cover album, or if it accualy contains some kw remixed tunes, but it sure is a good album. ] 3. Which KW sound-alike band do like better? you may all hate me for this, but, anything that sounds like kraftwerk, but isnt kraftwerk sounds wrong. since kraftwerk have a very unique sound (or have had), it feels like a copycat thing to sound like them. but, if i have to state how the best copycat is, it must be komputer (is that their name?) from the uk. karl/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nate Ward Subject: (kw) mp3 sites Date: 18 Jul 1999 03:09:20 -0400 Hi Can anyone who has a Kraftwerk mp3 site please send me the URL? Specifically I'd like the one for the Wahrberg (sp?) sound board bootleg mp3s. Thanks, Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nate Ward Subject: (kw) Re: uilleann pipes Date: 18 Jul 1999 03:07:14 -0400 Hi The uilleann pipes are the Irish traditional bagpipes. In this instrument, the bag is inflated by means of a bellows instead of a blowpipe. For a really good description of the instrument I would suggest the internet site www.uilleann.com. Nate Familie de Haan wrote: > > ps: I can play Neon Lights on my uilleann pipes (although really > > half-assedly) in case anyone cares. > > uilleann pipes, what are those then? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar R Johansson Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk-records in NY Date: 19 Jul 1999 07:10:05 +0200 Simple question. Where in New York should I go to shop rare records with Kraftwerk? URL? /Gunnar R Johansson, Stockholm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Familie de Haan" Subject: (kw) uilleann pipes Date: 18 Jul 1999 07:45:18 +0200 > ps: I can play Neon Lights on my uilleann pipes (although really > half-assedly) in case anyone cares. uilleann pipes, what are those then? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: RE: (kw) Music - the universal language Date: 18 Jul 1999 14:35:20 +0200 On Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:06:35 +0200, Der Automat wrote: > >>Can anyone think of any other group or artist that is fluent in as many >>languages? > >Karol Wojtyla. > >;-) "Music Non Stop, Techno Pope" :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Survey Date: 18 Jul 1999 14:38:25 +0200 On Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:20:45 -0700, Enrique Correa wrote: >JMJ, in the other hand, tries to legally release every concert he's got, giving >the illegal marketers little room to breathe. Heck, even Tangerine Dream >legally released plenty of their live stuff throughout the years, making >every single one of their fans pretty happy. Unfortunately for us, KW took >the back seat on the illegally copied live concerts subject, and we all >suffer the consequences having to pay ridiculous amounts of money for boot's >of dubious origin. Well, I partially agree with you, considering the fact that, for example, JM Jarre albums & live stuff are continuously rereleased each two or three years with a supposedly better sound, new cover, limited edition sticker, etc. So, I'm not really sure if for the real fan, it would be cheaper than a bootleg. >I'm not quite sure what their point of view is about >their music being plagiarized again and again and again. yes, that's strange because at the same time, they seem to be very concerned about protecting the Kraftwerk (R) trademark. Remember for example that kraftwerk.com domain was used before by a German company. I wonder how many DM Kraftwerk paid to recover i, since there's still almost nothing on their Web site since more than two years that it exists. >In the meantime, I would like the ask the following questions to the list, >regardless of their political correctness: >1. Which KW bootleg has the best sound quality? Don't know, I have very few bootlegs but I like very much the "Concert Classics" CD, because, even if it should have been released as a double CD set, it perfectly captures the feeling of KW gigs of this time with minimalistic interpretation before the "Showroom Dummies" & "Robots" came after. >2. Which KW tribute song or album do you prefer? Don't know many of them, but the "Balanescu Quartet" covers of KW songs are interesting. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) the mysterious new Kraftwerk CD Date: 18 Jul 1999 17:04:12 +0200 Hi, Here is the information I receive today from CDZONE about CD's to be released : New Release 19 Jul 1999 Kraftwerk: Kraftwerk (Audio CD) CR4232 Swedish Import # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97,3 FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) NYC video Date: 18 Jul 1999 14:33:01 -0300 Hi "werkers" . This add was posted again. Maybe you don`t know the new... Well, I have the NEW YORK`s concert on VHS (recorded in 1998). Total running: 1 hour or more. This videotape includes two new songs and shows good closes of Ralf Hutter and cia. Sounds & Images very good. Are you interested ? Please, write me privately. Thanks ! 97 FM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Rammstein cover Date: 18 Jul 1999 14:35:26 EDT there is no english version Sam Paterson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97,3 FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) Brasil champion Date: 18 Jul 1999 20:23:51 -0300 Well, I don`t resists... Our team is Champion !!!!! The America Coup `99 is our !! (Brasil 3 X URUGUAI 0 ) Eduardo Monteiro (From Brasil. Kraftwerk was playing here, last year) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: RE: (kw) William Orbit goodies Date: 19 Jul 1999 10:15:17 +0200 From W/O's official site @ http://www=2Ewilliamorbit=2Ecom/online=2Ehtml "William Orbit has kindly signed & donated copies of each Strange Cargo =2E=2E=2E "Radioactivity" is at number 50 with 7 votes so far :-( Well I just voted, and now it's on number 30 with 12 votes :-) Come on and vote, we'll get it up on number ONE! /Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) an uncomplete list of KW bootlegs Date: 19 Jul 1999 10:34:39 +0200 Hi, I've found a Web site with a list of KW bootlegs (35 I think) with trak listing. Unfortunatly, this list has not been updated since August 98 , but well... it's still interesting. http://bootlegs.simplenet.com/bootlist/kwerk/kwerk.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) William Orbit goodies Date: 19 Jul 1999 12:35:40 +0200 Now it's up at 24 with 14 votes! At tips: As you have to fill in 10 songs, take RA as the first and take songs with very low votes as your other 9 -----Original Message----- ...Well I just voted, and now it's on number 30 with 12 votes :-)... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JT Subject: (kw) CD @ ab-cd.com Date: 19 Jul 1999 07:50:15 -0700 Just curious... Does anyone know anything about these CDs listed at ab-cd.com... Kraftwerk: Arbeiten - Works - Oeuvres (Dbl) Label - Capitol Catalog No. - CDP2443742 Origin - Australia 01/29/99 - 2 CD Set In Stock AB-CD price $52.97 Kraftwerk: Westwood One Concert (Live Germany 1991) (10 Tracks) Westwood One WWL808 Import 05/28/99 - CD Album New Release AB-CD price $34.97 Obviously new bootlegs, but I wonder what the track listing and source material is. Kindest regards, -John _________________________________________ efofex - 'noise has a new purpose' http://efofex.simplenet.com http://www.mp3.com/efofex - MP3 previews the upcoming "Stress" CD http://efofex.simplenet.com/mailinglist.html - Join the Efofex mailing list # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eugene Zaikonnikov" Subject: Re: (kw) William Orbit goodies Date: 19 Jul 1999 14:45:55 +0300 > > Now it's up at 24 with 14 votes! At tips: As you have to fill in 10 songs, > take RA as the first and take songs with very low votes as your other 9 > Now it's still at 24 with 15 votes. We need some 10 votes to place RA in top ten. BTW, it's mentioned on the site: ...Note: The order in which you select your 10 tracks is not important. So you may not bother putting RA at the first place. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Francois Kevork Date: 19 Jul 1999 15:16:39 +0200 Jeroen de Haan wrote: >Does anyone know anything about Francois Kevork? I knew a girl how claimed >her french boyfriend (possibly Francois) once remixed a version of TdF >and/or met Kraftwerk while she lived in Paris. I searched with Apple's >Sherlock but couldn't find anything about him... Francois Kevorkian remixed Tour de France, Musique Non Stop and Radioactivity. Lately Francois Kevorkian has remixed the single "Pussycat" by Mulu. "Sacrilege" 2LP by Can (April 1997). "Stay With Me" single by Erasure included in their album "I Say, I Say, I Say". "I don't like music" album by Telex. "Be Brave" single by Model 500 of the album "Mind & Body". DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Towerrecords Date: 19 Jul 1999 15:21:44 +0200 Any idea about what's the following?: Found at http://www.towerrecords.com/ >Maxi-Single (Vinyl) OUT OF PRINT >Title: Trans Europe Express/On The Be >Artist: Kraftwerk/B.b.& Q.band >Label: unidisc/im >Title: Kraftwerk Tribute Import-Jap T/T Kraftwerk >Artist: Va-Kraftwerk Tribute >Release Date: 13.10.98 >23.99 pounds >Title: Outburn >Artist: Kraftwerk >17.99 pounds >Title: Jahrzehnt 1980-1990 >Artist: Various >Label: ELECTROLA >Release Date: 30.04.90 > 16.99 pounds x 3CD >Additional Information: > R. Havens: I Can't Make It Anymore; Freedom >Country Joe McDonald: The Fish Cheer - I Feel Like I'm Fixin' To Die Rag >John Sebastian: Rainbows All Over Your Blues >Incredible Stringband: When You Find Out Who You Are >Bert Sommer: Jennifer > R. Havens: I Can't Make It Anymore; Freedom >Country Joe McDonald: The Fish Cheer - I Feel Like I'm Fixin' To Die Rag >John Sebastian: Rainbows All Over Your Blues >Incredible Stringband: When You Find Out Who You Are >Bert Sommer: Jennifer > Auf diesem Sampler sind Live-Mitschnitte von Punkgruppen wie Toxoplasma zu sehen. > R. Havens: I Can't Make It Anymore; Freedom >Country Joe McDonald: The Fish Cheer - I Feel Like I'm Fixin' To Die Rag >John Sebastian: Rainbows All Over Your Blues >Incredible Stringband: When You Find Out Who You Are >Bert Sommer: Jennifer > Auf diesem Sampler sind Live-Mitschnitte von Punkgruppen wie Toxoplasma zu sehen. > Auf diesem Sampler sind Live-Mitschnitte von Punkgruppen wie Toxoplasma zu sehen. >Title: Deranged In Space >Artist: Kraftwerk >Release Date: 16.07.96 >7.99 pounds This seems to be the title of a Kraftwelt's album, not Kraftwerk's. >Title: Remake >Artist: Kraftwerk >6.99 pounds maxi-single vinyl >Title: Auto Repeat Revisited >Artist: Kraftwerk >4.99 pounds maxi-single vinyl This seems to be the 12" EP "Revisited", release on the SSR/Crammed Discs label in 1994, by an act called Autorrepeat. Found at http://www.mp3.com/artists/27/doodlebug.html >'ara-kiri culturelle Experimental >MP3: Play or Save (14.6 MB) >Instant Play Song Lyrics >Description: record player, tape recorder, cd player. Hypnotic trash >Credits: Freddy Quinn, Yello, Laibach, Kraftwerk and others >Die Gerrrmannz General Comedy >MP3: Play or Save (4.1 MB) >Instant Play >Description: this one's a parody on Kraftwerk's 'Robots' DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Dreiklangdimensionen Date: 19 Jul 1999 15:30:09 +0200 >I recently found a record at www.boxman.co.uk which is a collection of >songs >from the decade 80-90. Most of it unknown to me, but one song catched my >eye: Dreiklangdimentionen. I recall a post of some sheet music with the >same, or similar name composed by Wolfgang F. I've searched the archive at >the new, superb site by Harald W (Thanks!), but with no references. Anybody >else who remembers this?? >It was made by a german group called Rheingold, they use quite a lot of >synthesizers, but the music doesn't sound anything like KW. >Rheingold was a trio, Bodo Staiger (guitar, vocals),Lothar Manteuffel >(textwriter) and Brigitte Kunze (keyboards). >(info found at: http://www.ichwillspass.de/rheingol.htm) Bodo Staiger played the guitar in another band called Sinus in which Karl Bartos played the drums. Lothar Manteuffel came from the literary scene. Rheinglod mixed synthesizers, electronic percussion and guitars. It's a mere speculation, but apparently "Dreiklangdimensionen" (included in the first Rheinglod album), was supposedly remixed in 1990 by Bartos and Manteuffel -but they do not appear in the credits of the CDsingle version-, and Nachtwerk, and published by the label Rheinklang. The three albums of Rheingold were recorded by Conrad "Conny" Plank at his studio in Duesseldorf. >There is also an >English version available : Triad Dimensions. The English version it could be Three Dimension Sound which is the translation of Dreiklangdimensionen DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Survey Date: 19 Jul 1999 14:50:56 +0100 Enrique Correa wrote: >In the meantime, I would like the ask the following questions to the list, >regardless of their political correctness: >1. Which KW bootleg has the best sound quality? >2. Which KW tribute song or album do you prefer? >3. Which KW sound-alike band do like better? Hi, Since you're asking questions about personal preferences, rather than objective facts, it sounds very much like the start of a poll. Could interested parties see http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/email-list.html#subjects for the etiquette on conducting polls and contributing to them. TIA K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom807@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk-records in NY Date: 19 Jul 1999 09:54:15 EDT I have found the best two record stores in NY City to shop for Kraftwerk records to be Kim's Records on Saint Marks Place between 2nd and 3rd Ave's., and Other Music on 4th St. between Broadway and Lafeyette next to Tower Records. I would be interested in knowing if there are others that I may have missed! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) New Kraftwerk Release Date: 19 Jul 1999 11:42:03 +0100 I think we should all remember that some suppliers have got Kraftwelt mixed up with the thing. Tower Europe have as have HMV in England. Aren't Kraftwelt a Scandinavian group, in which case it would make sense that the release is from Sweden and not as previously stated from England Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) New Kraftwerk Release Date: 19 Jul 1999 16:41:23 +0200 Denmark, rather... /Joakim -----Original Message----- ...Kraftwelt mixed up with the thing. Tower Europe have as have HMV in England. Aren't Kraftwelt a Scandinavian group, in which case it would make sense that the release is from Sweden ... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Brasil champion Date: 19 Jul 1999 10:39:22 +0200 > The America Coup `99 is our !! felicitations. > (From Brasil. Kraftwerk was playing here, last year) I don't remember very well, but weren't we discussing, some times ago, that R&F like football a lot as well as cycling? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Compute" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Remixes Available Date: 19 Jul 1999 11:36:58 GMT Hello everyone, For any of you who are new to this list, or for those who just don't pay much attention, I have a web site set-up with my own personal remixes of Kraftwerk. They are not extremely spectacular at this point, but it's nice to listen to something fresh since Kraftwerk doesn't release *much* material (understatement?). Everyone can access zipped MP3's of my werk at: http://members.xoom.com/djcompute I have some additional material whcih I haven't posted, which is a little better than what's there. Hopefully I will be posting this new material very soon. Also nothing there is really complete per se, it's just me fooling around with different samples and sections of songs. The Book of Love, I Touch Roses mesh with Boing Boom Tschak is rather interesting. A Toronto DJ inspired me to create this mix. This then led me to the Home Computer mix, with Boing Boom Tschak, and so on. I'm also playing around with the Expo2000 jingle, seeing as how it's the big talk on the list and many people are shocked by its, well, lack of shock value. I won't get into too much detail now, but strangly enough I'm having a lot of fun mixing it with the 1983 Technopop Demo. When I have a complete "product" I will post it on my site for all to hear. Thanks for listening, dj.compute ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) German 101 Date: 19 Jul 1999 15:22:02 +0200 >Wie hei=DFt der in Paris beginnende Radklassiker? > >"What is the cycling classic that begins in Paris called?" Is this a good translation? To me it's meaningless. The question might be: "What is the name of the classical cycling race th= at begins in Paris?" or "How is called the classical cycling race that begin= s in Paris?" So the answer it should be "Tour de France", not "Paris-Roubaix", isn't i= t? BTW. Found at music-non-stop.co.uk: >12" "EL BAILE DE LA ESCOBA" (TOUR DE FRANCE) (MEXICO) EMI POP661.Very >rare Mexican pressing of TDF cover features extra titles "El Baile...+ >"Version Remezclada" & "Tema Original de la pelicula Breakdance". In excellent >condition, a rare collectors item at a reasonable price #30.00 UKPounds. BTW. Why EMI has re-released Tour de France single this year, is this son= g used as a TV tuning for a French TV channel? DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Young Subject: RE: (kw) German 101 Date: 19 Jul 1999 12:05:51 -0400 (EDT) --- Der Automat wrote: > > >Wie heißt der in Paris beginnende Radklassiker? > > > >"What is the cycling classic that begins in Paris > called?" > > Is this a good translation? To me it's meaningless. > The question might be: "What is the name of the > classical cycling race that > begins in Paris?" or "How is called the classical > cycling race that begins > in Paris?" First of all, one would never say "How is called" anything in English--poor word order. "Classical" usually refers either to music (Beethoven, Bach and that bunch) or to the times of the ancient Romans & Greeks. The question as phrased makes one wonder what "classical cycling" is. A classic on the other hand refers to any recurring sports event such as a golf or tennis tournament (but not the championship game(s) which end some sort of league season). Jeff _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com Subject: (kw) Don't get me started! Date: 19 Jul 1999 12:58:04 -0400 >>> "Classical" usually refers either to music (Beethoven, Bach and that bunch) or to the times of the ancient Romans & Greeks. <<< The word classical refers to a culture's highest art form(s). From an Afrocentric point of view, to African-Americans, musically, this would be jazz. Other classical civilizations include ancient Mali and ancient Zimbabwe, known for their contributions in art and architecture. I don't mean to play Devil's Advocate, but from your definition, would that then disqualify Indian classical music from being "classical" because it's non-Western? Peace. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Young Subject: Re: (kw) Don't get me started! Date: 19 Jul 1999 13:09:22 -0400 (EDT) --- muziknut2@juno.com wrote: > > >>> "Classical" usually refers either to music > (Beethoven, Bach and > that bunch) or to the times of the ancient Romans & > Greeks. <<< > > The word classical refers to a culture's highest art > form(s). From an > Afrocentric point of view, to African-Americans, > musically, this would be > jazz. Other classical civilizations include ancient > Mali and ancient > Zimbabwe, known for their contributions in art and > architecture. I don't > mean to play Devil's Advocate, but from your > definition, would that then > disqualify Indian classical music from being > "classical" because it's > non-Western? Peace. No, it doesn't exclude it. However, I said "usually" and stick by it. The usual i.e. most common/frequent understanding of "classical" refers to Western classical music. This is exasctly why this list is such an exasperating one of which to be a member. There is always someone standing by ready to shoot down, overanalyze anything anyone posts that is either wrong or with which they disagree. I am not an expert on classical music and do not purport to be one; this is not the forum to discuss it either, unless we relate it to KW. Jeff _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Alan Wilder Date: 19 Jul 1999 11:38:02 -0700 >Which Kraftwerk song(s) do you like best? "I don't have one particular favourite. I like many including 'Autobahn', 'Radio Activity', 'Numbers' etc..." >Which of their albums do you like best? "Probably 'Computer World' " >Do you have in your possession a good quality recording of 'Tour De France'. If so, where did you get it from? "I've got a very dodgy cassette only. If, reading between the lines, you're about to suggest sending me a bright shiny new copy, I'd be more than happy to take it off your hands. Incidentally, I hear rumours of a new Kraftwerk album..... " Form (ex-Depeche Mode) Alan Wilder's site. http://www.recoil.co.uk/ Go to the Q&A section, there's plenty of juicy stuff in there, BTW if you have a question and if it's not been asked before, he'll answer it back to you. KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Music For Supermarkets Date: 19 Jul 1999 12:18:31 -0700 Guys, this might not of everyone's interest, but you never know... There is a digitally remastered version of the radio broadcast of JMJ's "Music For Supermarkets" (1983) on the net @ http://www.itsahit.com/phoenix1291/underground/ "Music For Supermarkets" is a recording of which only one copy was made, and is considered to be one of the most collectable items in the world. Hmmm... when you're rich you can do those type of things, I guess... KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) Survey Date: 19 Jul 1999 14:29:11 -0700 >Kevin Busby wrote: >Since you're asking questions about personal preferences, rather than objective facts, it sounds very such like the start of a poll. Could interested parties see... It's up to you guys. E-mail me or the list. I think that the members opinions are an excellent point of reference for those, who do not own a whole of a lot of KW boots and things (like myself). Anyway, here are my answers, based what I know: 1. Which KW bootleg has the best sound quality? I only have Computersymphonies, Lauschangriff (good sound, but Ralf's voice is blurry and shaky on both boots) and Classic Concerts. I consider this last one's *intimacy* priceless. 2. Which KW tribute song or album do you prefer? Out of Trance Werk Express vol 1 + 2; Basskraft, and Trans Slovenia Express, I choose TW Express Vol. 1 3. Which KW sound-alike band do you like better? Komputer is the closest KW sound I've ever heard so far. I also liked EM's Esperanto *raw KW sound*, and Kraftwelt's *modern KW sound*. KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hendrickx, Margaretha" Subject: (kw) Good brand of CD for Audio copies Date: 19 Jul 1999 18:39:17 -0500 Did any of you check out the quality of the various brands of CDs that are available to make audio copies? I made an audio copy on a MAXWELL CD at the end of May. And over the week-end, when I wanted to listen to it, my CD player did not recognized it at all. A friend of mine told me that MAXELL has the worst CDs to make audio copies. Supposedly, VERBATIM also give suboptimal quality. He did not have any problems with other brands of CDs so far. Did anyone on the list find that other brands of CDs also make poor quality audio copies? Or, is there a brand known for its superior quality of audio copies? Thanks, Maggie PS. I am talking about audio copies and NOT mp3 copies. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: (kw) Tour De France in Austria out now Date: 20 Jul 1999 01:45:08 +0200 Tour De France -Maxi Cd- has been released today. ---josef _________________In _Wien_Sitzen_Wir_Im_Nachtcafe________________ _____________________Direktverbindung_T.E.E._____________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (kw) DJ Compute's mixes and the service Date: 19 Jul 1999 17:58:52 PDT To everyone on the list : DOWNLOAD DJ COMPUTE'S KRAFTWERK REMIXES !!!! THEY ARE THE BOMB ! ! ! I just listened to them today, and they are wonderful. I like his remix of "Boing Boom Tschak" the best. It is all over the place, yet it is perfectly beatmatched. AN OUTSTANDING JOB, COMPUTE !!! :) Did you just use turntables, or did you also use software as well ? It would seem pretty hard to do that with only the original vinyl. Way better than Kevorkian's 7" mix ! Ralf & Florian : GET IN TOUCH WITH THIS GUY !!! HE IS AMAZING !!! Also, this is a bit off-topic, but I'm considering possibly joining the service and going to Germany. Any hot spots or record stores that one might recommend ? Anyone on the list ever been in the service before ? If so, how did you like it ? NoiseWerker :) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hendrickx, Margaretha" Subject: (kw) One more question about good burning practices Date: 20 Jul 1999 00:39:54 -0500 Has anyone tested whether the speed of burning makes a difference? Someone told me that if I would burn a CD at a lower speed the signal would be etched (or whatever the term is) in the CD. Cheers * Maggie PS So far Mitsui Gold received the most votes BASF (Tayo Uden) and Sony are next. >Did any of you check out the quality of the various brands of >CDs that are available to make audio copies? > >I made an audio copy on a MAXWELL CD at the end of May. And >over the week-end, when I wanted to listen to it, my CD player >did not recognized it at all. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: (kw) XYZ Date: 19 Jul 1999 20:16:24 +0200 Ciao! - Few days ago on satellite channel Raisat Art there were a reportage about architecture and design; the music in background was an excerpt from Autobahn! - In the Cylob's song "Rewind" it's possible to listen to a very interesting way of using the Vocoder. - The video of the song "(Hey you) what's that sound?" opens with the photo of the cover of Kraftwerk's "Ultra rare trax 1". Didi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) Warfield MP3's Date: 20 Jul 1999 12:28:22 +0200 Hi, Just in case some of you didn't get all the Warfield MP3's before Michael had to take them down , a very nice guy from the list uploaded them on a friend's FTP server. Contact me privately if you want the URL. Arnaud # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: (kw) NEWS Date: 20 Jul 1999 12:42:05 +0200 Hi all, the following informations have been sent me by a music shop here in Milan. Does anybody of you know anything about them? Thank you Didi KRAFTWERK-RED (LIMITED EDITION)-JUL (Limited edition red vinyl - recorded live at tribal gathering this year.) LP-KTG001/ KRAFTWERK-KRAFTWERK-13/8 (Limited repress.) TWINK/CD-94100/1 KRAFTWERK-NEU-13/8 (Limited repress.) TWINK/CD-941025/ KRAFTWERK-RALF & FLORIAN-13/8 (Limited repress.) TWINK/CD-941023/1 P.S. Have you ever seen the 12" of TdF ? ? ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: (kw) NEWS Date: 20 Jul 1999 12:50:36 +0200 Hi all,
the following informations have been sent me by a music shop here in Milan.
Does anybody of you know anything about them?
Thank you

Didi



KRAFTWERK-RED (LIMITED EDITION)-JUL
(Limited edition red vinyl - recorded live at tribal gathering this year.)
        LP-KTG001/

KRAFTWERK-KRAFTWERK-13/8
(Limited repress.)
        TWINK/CD-94100/1

KRAFTWERK-NEU-13/8
(Limited repress.)
        TWINK/CD-941025/

KRAFTWERK-RALF & FLORIAN-13/8
(Limited repress.)
        TWINK/CD-941023/1


P.S.
Have you ever seen the 12" of TdF ? ? ?

 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: RE: (kw) Survey Date: 20 Jul 1999 13:04:25 +0100 Enrique Correa wrote: >It's up to you guys. E-mail me or the list. I think that the members >opinions are an excellent point of reference for those, who do not own a >whole of a lot of KW boots and things (like myself). Sure they are, but the trouble is, you always end up with a load of people giving uninformative answers, e.g. "Live at Vegas", "I like the Hollywood Bowl one". Past experiences show this is just noise, unless collated into a proper poll, off-list. If people are willing to expend the effort to give a short review, that's a different matter, IMO! Kevin PS I do not claim to be the final word on this, but let us not wake the sleeping giant LAZLO, in whose dread name the makers of noise get their legs slapped. :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Kraftwerk / Divine Comedy Date: 20 Jul 1999 14:41:20 +0200 Eduardo H. Q. AVELLAR wrote: >>Do you know 'The Divine Comedy'? >>Their 5-inch single titled 'National Express' has >>Radioactivity - (unreleased Kraftwerk studio version). >>Do you know this song? Is it truely played by Kraftwerk? Divine Comedy did a cover version of "Radioactivity" which is included in their double CDsingle "National Express" (Setanta, 1998). The track includes both English and German lyrics and is a very slow acoustic version with rather over reverbed piano. Interesting but all the same rather awful!, a sort of Smiths meet Kraftwerk type of sound. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Survey Date: 20 Jul 1999 15:41:59 +0200 >] 1. Which KW bootleg has the best sound quality? Concert Classics. >] 2. Which KW tribute song or album do you prefer? "Tribute To Kraftwerk" by Marc et Claude. And "La Modelo" by El Aviador Dro y Sus Obreros Especializados. Quoted from Aktivitaet Unofficial Kraftwerk fanzine: "This could easily be the oldest recorded cover of "The Model" which El Aviador Dro have always played live at their concerts since 1979." >] 3. Which KW sound-alike band do like better? El Aviador Dro y Sus Obreros Especializados. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nummeren@aol.com Subject: (kw) warfield concert Date: 20 Jul 1999 10:16:57 EDT Does anyone want a cdr of the warfield concert? I have the original cd and an audio cd buner. The blank audio cds cost $3 each and shipping in the US is $3.20... So $6.20 and a cdr is yours. Email me privately if you are interested. Those of you overseas may have to pay a bit more for shipping... nummeren # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tomasz_KIRMUC@tdk-lu.com Subject: (kw) Good brand of CD for Audio copies Date: 20 Jul 1999 16:37:16 +0200 Tomasz KIRMUC 20-07-99 04:37 PM >"Hendrickx, Margaretha" wrote: >Did any of you check out the quality of the various brands of CDs that are >available to make audio copies? Well, If you're making Audio CDs with CD-R burner on PC you could try TDK CD-R74STUDIO which is strictly prepared for making CD-R audio with 1 x speed. Other TDK's CD-Rs (like CD-R74EC REFLEX or CD-RXG74ED for Philips / Marantz stand alone CD-R Audio recorders) are also known of their quality. For more details, check: www.tdk-europe.com Tomasz Kirmuc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeroen de Haan" Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO Jingle scandal update Date: 09 Jul 1999 21:02:15 +0200 > So I guess we can expect to see this on CD, hear it in advertisements for jeans > and beer, and perhaps be able to purchase the sheet music? :-) You funny guy... -- MONEY: People will do odd things if you give them money. When everything is worth money, then money is worth nothing. If you keep your money in your shoe, then people will know which bills are yours. Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Subject: (kw) Bootleg Date: 09 Jul 1999 21:08:55 +0200 Hi- I came across Kraftwerk's "Concert Classics" bootleg on ebay -since I already own a copy myself, I thought I should share this with you guys :-) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=127258590 Have a nice weekend, Dave. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: RE: (kw) Survey Date: 20 Jul 1999 15:45:13 +0100 At 3:41 pm +0200 20/7/99, Der Automat wrote: >>] 1. Which KW bootleg has the best sound quality? > >Concert Classics. Why? >>] 2. Which KW tribute song or album do you prefer? > >"Tribute To Kraftwerk" by Marc et Claude. And "La Modelo" by El Aviador Dro >y Sus Obreros Especializados. Quoted from Aktivitaet Unofficial Kraftwerk >fanzine: "This could easily be the oldest recorded cover of "The Model" >which El Aviador Dro have always played live at their concerts since 1979." Why? >>] 3. Which KW sound-alike band do like better? > >El Aviador Dro y Sus Obreros Especializados. Why? You have told us NOTHING. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tomasz_KIRMUC@tdk-lu.com Subject: (kw) One more question about good burning practices Date: 20 Jul 1999 16:43:00 +0200 Tomasz KIRMUC 20-07-99 04:43 PM >Has anyone tested whether the speed of burning makes a difference? >Someone told me that if I would burn a CD at a lower speed the signal would >be etched (or whatever the term is) in the CD. Of course, burning speed may cause difference in quality and preformance of CD-R. The higher speed = higher possibility of increasing of error rate. Tomasz Kirmuc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eugene Zaikonnikov" Subject: Re: (kw) One more question about good burning practices Date: 20 Jul 1999 18:05:04 +0300 > Of course, burning speed may cause difference in quality and preformance > of CD-R. > The higher speed = higher possibility of increasing of error rate. > With my experience error rate depends also on matrices (ie blank CD-R discs) you use. Philips, Sony and Verbatim are ok, but TDK definitely sucks. Having about 50 discs recorded, I spoiled three matrices - all of them made by TDK. -- Eugene. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tomasz_KIRMUC@tdk-lu.com Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk: The Man-Machine Date: 20 Jul 1999 17:10:02 +0200 Tomasz KIRMUC 20-07-99 05:10 PM Does anybody know any record shop in London where I can still obtain EMI UK release of THE MAN-MACHINE? I would appreciate any hint. Tomasz Kirmuc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: (kw) The Mystifying Oracle Date: 20 Jul 1999 13:12:01 EDT The other night, my friends and I were asking different questions to my Ouija board. One of our questions was about when a new Kraftwerk album will come out. It told us we can expect a new release from KW on November 17 of this year. The board said the album will be called "Exon On Rasputin". My Ouija board also stated that the album will change our lives forever. Let's keep our fingers crossed for this relatively soon release date. Sam Paterson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Don't get me started! Date: 20 Jul 1999 17:02:15 +0200 > mean to play Devil's Advocate, but from your definition, would that then > disqualify Indian classical music from being "classical" because it's > non-Western? Peace. from my point of view indeed. I am not saying that Indian music is not nice because it is not classical, I say it's a non sense to qualify non western cultural products with the term classical, if not by a very large meaning, something that would be better translated with "standard" and/or "academic" (but I have doubt with this too) or "erudite". I really do not see why a kind of music should be disqualified if ont do not use to talk about it terms that usually refer to forms of art typical of the western civilization. I would really not be offended if some Indian tell me that Alexander the Great was not a mahraja or Plato was not a guru. "classical" refer to greek-roman art. if you want to use a periphrase (sp?), like "this kind of Mali music is something that would be defined classical" then ok, but I don't think anyway you do a good favour to Mali musicians defining their erudite music as classical. or, we can agree to give to the term "classical" a new meaning, that is "the erudite, typical form of art of some culture whatever it is; a form of art that for a specifical cultural system can take the same place and role that the greek/roman culture has for the western cultural system". peace to you too. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nowhere000@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) The Mystifying Oracle Date: 20 Jul 1999 13:29:55 EDT In a message dated 7/20/99 1:24:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Greyseason@aol.com writes: << The other night, my friends and I were asking different questions to my Ouija board. One of our questions was about when a new Kraftwerk album will come out. It told us we can expect a new release from KW on November 17 of this year. The board said the album will be called "Exon On Rasputin". My Ouija board also stated that the album will change our lives forever. Let's keep our fingers crossed for this relatively soon release date. Sam Paterson >> HAHAHAHAHA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Familie de Haan" Subject: Re: (kw) The Mystifying Oracle Date: 20 Jul 1999 19:40:41 +0200 My Ouija board told me once I was a black woman. Breasts and color still have to come. Please get real, no more jingle, CD-burning or Ouija-jedda jedda. -- WORK: Crime is a job. Sex is a job. Growing up is a job. School is a job. Going to parties is a job. Religion is a job. Being creative is a job. Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) LBO/Musiknut/classical music Date: 20 Jul 1999 18:54:26 +0100 Great, A philosophical debate about an invented/arbitrary labelling system. May I humbly suggest that what you are both involved in is actually Alchemic as you are both trying to change one language form i.e. Music-into another. Remember. Language evolves. The Chambers 20th Century English dictionary defines Classical as 'Of the highest class or rank originally referring to the Greek or Roman. It can also mean chaste or refined, excellent, standard, something that does not go out of fashion, long established, etc. It can also mean Presbyterian. In today's context we all understand the colloquial use of the term classic or classical. That's the important aspect. Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anders Wahlbom Subject: Re:(kw) Dreiklangdimensionen Date: 20 Jul 1999 19:59:19 +0200 (MET DST) Thus wrote Der Automat on Mon, 19 Jul 1999 15:30:09 +0200: > >There is also an > >English version available : Triad Dimensions. >=20 > The English version it could be Three Dimension Sound which is the > translation of Dreiklangdimensionen No, it couldn't. It *is* called "Triad Dimensions". A good friend owns the 12", and I've heard it; he taped it for me. AFAIK, it's available on the following releases (quoting from my own discography): --- FanFanFanatic 7":=091982 UK (EMI EMI 5285) [unconfirmed] 12":=091982 UK=09(EMI 12 EMI 5285) =09=09FanFanFanatic [FanFanFanatisch] =09=09River [Flu=DF] =09=09Triad Dimensions [Dreiklangsdimensionen] MLP:=091982 US (Harvest DLP-15005) =09 3:52=09FanFanFanatic =09 4:26=09A Moment's Glance =09 6:24=09Triad Dimensions =09 4:49=09River --- There are also English versions of "Das steht dir gut" ("Looks Good On You") and "Computerbeat"... - Anders Wahlbom | http://www.update.uu.se/~awahlbom/ (Finger for geek code) | http://www.cutoff.se/dss - NOW PLAYING: Borghesia: "She Is Not Alone" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rochow@pixelmagic.com Subject: Re:RE: (kw) Dreiklangdimensionen Date: 20 Jul 1999 14:17:57 -0400 >>English version available : Triad Dimensions. > >The English version it could be Three Dimension Sound which is the >translation of Dreiklangdimensionen > >DER AUTOMAT No, because Dreiklang (Triad, I guess) is one term, and -dimensionen (plural) is another. German has split verbs, but no noun-splitting in compound words that I'm aware of. Three Dimension Sound, if taken to mean three-dimensional sound, would be Dreidimensionalklang. And, related to none of the above: Verbing weirds language :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: Re: (kw) William Orbit goodies Date: 20 Jul 1999 22:44:32 +0200 Eugene Zaikonnikov wrote: >Now it's still at 24 with 15 votes. We need some 10 votes to place RA >in top >ten. I just voted and tell also some friends to vote ;-). It's now at 8 and still climbing... . Gruesse aus Wien, Georgie -- * "Synthetic electronic sounds, industrial rhythms all around..." * * ...heute Abend aus Deutschland: KRAFTWERK * * Georg Jajus - Vienna - Austria * * * http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * phone & SMS: +436765621850 * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: Re: (kw) Tour De France in Austria out now Date: 20 Jul 1999 21:20:31 +0200 Josef Gabler wrote: >Tour De France -Maxi Cd- has been released today. Funny thing...where did you buy it? When I asked the f*****g shop-assistent at Virgin Megastore yesterday (!) about the new "Tour de France" he neither didn't know that Kraftwerk still exist, nor anything about the new single ;-). Gruesse aus Wien, Georgie -- * "Synthetic electronic sounds, industrial rhythms all around..." * * ...heute Abend aus Deutschland: KRAFTWERK * * Georg Jajus - Vienna - Austria * * * http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * phone & SMS: +436765621850 * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hazard.bsn@maks.net Subject: Re: (kw) Expo2000 - Warfield mp3s are gone... Date: 17 Jul 1999 12:32:11 +0400 Sat, Jul 17, 1999 at 09:59:34AM +0200 Arnaud de Bonald ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ ÐÏ ÐÏ×ÏÄÕ Re: (kw) Expo2000 - Warfield mp3s are gone... > a shame really !!!!! > > Well, as I said, I can host these files on a friend's FTP server. > The only thing is that I only have myself 8 of the 14 files, and my connection here is too slow to upload them. > > So, if someone can upload the files, I have a place to put them. I can upload them; please mail me the address/account of the server. -- Best Regards Vladimir Ivaschenko http://www.hazard.maks.net/~hazard # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Familie de Haan" Subject: (kw) uilleann pipes Date: 18 Jul 1999 07:45:18 +0200 > ps: I can play Neon Lights on my uilleann pipes (although really > half-assedly) in case anyone cares. uilleann pipes, what are those then? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar R Johansson Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk-records in NY Date: 19 Jul 1999 07:10:05 +0200 Simple question. Where in New York should I go to shop rare records with Kraftwerk? URL? /Gunnar R Johansson, Stockholm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nate Ward Subject: (kw) Re: uilleann pipes Date: 18 Jul 1999 03:07:14 -0400 Hi The uilleann pipes are the Irish traditional bagpipes. In this instrument, the bag is inflated by means of a bellows instead of a blowpipe. For a really good description of the instrument I would suggest the internet site www.uilleann.com. Nate Familie de Haan wrote: > > ps: I can play Neon Lights on my uilleann pipes (although really > > half-assedly) in case anyone cares. > > uilleann pipes, what are those then? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Survey Date: 18 Jul 1999 14:38:25 +0200 On Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:20:45 -0700, Enrique Correa wrote: >JMJ, in the other hand, tries to legally release every concert he's got, giving >the illegal marketers little room to breathe. Heck, even Tangerine Dream >legally released plenty of their live stuff throughout the years, making >every single one of their fans pretty happy. Unfortunately for us, KW took >the back seat on the illegally copied live concerts subject, and we all >suffer the consequences having to pay ridiculous amounts of money for boot's >of dubious origin. Well, I partially agree with you, considering the fact that, for example, JM Jarre albums & live stuff are continuously rereleased each two or three years with a supposedly better sound, new cover, limited edition sticker, etc. So, I'm not really sure if for the real fan, it would be cheaper than a bootleg. >I'm not quite sure what their point of view is about >their music being plagiarized again and again and again. yes, that's strange because at the same time, they seem to be very concerned about protecting the Kraftwerk (R) trademark. Remember for example that kraftwerk.com domain was used before by a German company. I wonder how many DM Kraftwerk paid to recover i, since there's still almost nothing on their Web site since more than two years that it exists. >In the meantime, I would like the ask the following questions to the list, >regardless of their political correctness: >1. Which KW bootleg has the best sound quality? Don't know, I have very few bootlegs but I like very much the "Concert Classics" CD, because, even if it should have been released as a double CD set, it perfectly captures the feeling of KW gigs of this time with minimalistic interpretation before the "Showroom Dummies" & "Robots" came after. >2. Which KW tribute song or album do you prefer? Don't know many of them, but the "Balanescu Quartet" covers of KW songs are interesting. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) Orbital on Kraftwerk Date: 21 Jul 1999 12:28:31 +0200 I found this interview with Orbital on their official fanzine: http://wkweb1=2Ecableinet=2Eco=2Euk/BaDmUtHa/ "Remixing Kraftwerk ?" Paul answers one of the biggest rumors=2E=2E=2E Loopz: Kraftwerk and Orbital=2E=2E=2Ethere are lots of rumors Paul: All I know is what Jones as told me=2E No one has said anything to us,=20= Purely a rumour=20= Loopz: I had about 8 emails in one week all saying the same thing=2E Orbital=20= remix the new Kraftwerk stuff=2E=20= Paul: Id give it a go=2E=20= Loopz: I knew you would be up for it =2E=2E=2E They had about 3 or 4 groups down=20= alongside as well=2E=20= Paul: Probably Daft Punk=2E=2E=2E=20= Loopz: Yep=2E=2E=2Ethat was one of them=20= Paul: But no one has offered it us yet=2E Basically it was those who played at=20= Tribal Gathering=2E=20= "Remixing James?" One that not many people have heard - but again another=20= rumour ?=2E=2E=2E Loopz: How about people like James=2E=20= Paul: What about them ?=20= Loopz: Have you been approached to remix any James tracks=2E=20= Paul: Not on a visual capacity=2E=2E=2Ei would do them cause i like them=2E=2E=2E= after=20= Lollapoloza=2E It would be a time thing=2E The only thing i would have to say is oh no=2E=2E=2Eat the moment we are turning down everything cause we wan= t=20= to get on with our new album=2E Its well over due=2E The only thing i would halt the album for is the Kraftwerk one=2E=20= Loopz: Oh year=2E=2E=2E=20= Paul: you'd have to do that=2E=20= Loopz: Its compulsory really aint it ? /Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Ian and Julie @prestel Date: 21 Jul 1999 11:43:08 +0100 Ian, Sorry but your mail keeps getting returned. (apologies to all others on the Webring-it's the only way to get in touch with him) Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Victor Subject: (kw) Media Center.... Date: 21 Jul 1999 09:41:37 -0300 Hi, Did anybody already buy "M-Discs" of the Media Center site???? -- ===================================== Victor Miranda vmiranda@urbi.com.br http://www.urbi.com.br/users/vmiranda ===================================== # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) New Kraftwerk Release Date: 21 Jul 1999 15:11:48 +0200 Paul Martland wrote: >I think we should all remember that some suppliers have got Kraftwelt mixed >up with the thing. Tower Europe have as have HMV in England. Aren't >Kraftwelt a Scandinavian group, in which case it would make sense that the >release is from Sweden and not as previously stated from England Kraftwelt are a trio from Copenhagen (Denmark). Kraftwelt has three albums out, "Electric Dimension", "Deranged in Space", and "Retroish". All three are marked "Dedicated to Ralf & Florian". Kraftwelt are actually one and the same as Audio Science, who contributed a couple of tracks to the "TranceWerk Express" Volume 1, described as "in the spirit of KRAFTWERK". DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: (kw) "Tour de France" in NYC. Date: 21 Jul 1999 10:31:12 Just wanted to let you know that HMV Records in New York City is indeed carrying the new "Tour de France" maxi-single. Even if only for a digital remaster of old KW material like this one, there's something rather thrilling about purchasing a new release from the Kraftwerk section of your record store. I look at it this way: We've all been complaining for years now that "Tour de France" ought to be officially released on compact disc. Well, somebody finally heard us! :-) Enjoy it. nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rochow@pixelmagic.com Subject: Re:(kw) "Tour de France" in NYC. Date: 21 Jul 1999 11:01:13 -0400 > Just wanted to let you know that HMV Records in New >York City is indeed carrying the new "Tour de France" maxi-single. >Even if only for a digital remaster of old KW material like this >one, there's something rather thrilling about purchasing a new >release from the Kraftwerk section of your record store. I look >at it this way: We've all been complaining for years now that >"Tour de France" ought to be officially released on compact disc. >Well, somebody finally heard us! :-) Enjoy it. Of course. I don't think anybody'd complain. I'm getting 2 copies, as they no doubt will have the usual short shelflive singles have. Mine were DM 12 apiece (at the current high $, only US$6.30); how much were yours? (To my surprise, there's a little bitty HMV (though a far cry from the big one in Atlanta or the huge one in London) in the little mall in Marlboro (and 2 other towns - different stores in this mall have different towns in their addresses :), Mass. - though they usually have nothing, can't order it, and don't know anything in general - with the helpful kind of employees that that go searched the area you just told them you searched before asking where *else* something might be. But I digress.) So, how much was it, and was it an import or a US pressing? -gbr # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anders Wahlbom Subject: (kw) Re: Survey Date: 21 Jul 1999 17:43:11 +0200 (MET DST) On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Enrique Correa wrote:=20 > Well, I don't know of any music artist that is pro-illegal. What about the Grateful Dead? Of course, I could mention a couple of dozen bands in the Swedish electro scene as well, this being where I'm active, but I don't think that'd mean very much... > Whenever someone > writes, in this case, a piece of music, deserves the right of getting pai= d > for it. Their music should only be used with the artist/label permission.= As > far as I know, all of the artists and foremost, the labels are against > bootlegs, internet postings and the likes. This is very reasonable and th= e > law is behind them. That's why in most venues organizers don't let you in > with any recording and/or photo equipment at all. > In the particular case of > KW and their label, I see that they aren't doing much against people maki= ng > money off their stuff. Contrary to groups like King Crimson, whom have be= ing > very outspoken about illegal stuff, even at the point of calling one of > their live CD's: "B-Boom: Official Bootleg - Live in Argentina" and JMJ w= ho, > in the other hand, tries to legally release every concert he's got, givin= g > the illegal marketers little room to breathe. Heck, even Tangerine Dream > legally released plenty of their live stuff throughout the years, making > every single one of their fans pretty happy. Unfortunately for us, KW too= k > the back seat on the illegally copied live concerts subject, and we all > suffer the consequences having to pay ridiculous amounts of money for boo= t's > of dubious origin. > I'm not quite sure what their point of view is about > their music being plagiarized again and again and again. > I love to download free stuff, buy bootlegs, and the whole nine yards; an= d I > recognize that all I'm doing is satisfying the selfish side of me, and be= ing > disrespectful to the artist rights; but hey, if I have to wait until they= do > something about it, I'll probably get very old before I can get my hands = on > some juicy, fresh out of the oven, legal, good quality -blessed by Ralf a= nd > Florian- live KW recording.=20 > In the meantime, I would like the ask the following questions to the list= , > regardless of their political correctness:=20 > 1. Which KW bootleg has the best sound quality? I'll pass on this question. It's definitely not _Heute Abend_, even though I have a soft spot for it for purely personal reasons... Most of the time, I care less about sound quality than about musical quality - I'd rather have a hissy old tape of the 1976 UK concerts than a mixing desk recording of whatever 1998 show, because the live versions seem much more interesting. > 2. Which KW tribute song or album do you prefer? I'm very fond of Welle:Erdball's "Der Telefon Anruf", but then I like that band very much... "Der Telefon Anruf" is one of the few good tracks on the _Krafty Move_ tribute album, along with Psyche's "Antenna". (OTOH, it also has real garbage, like Nigra Nebula's "Das Model" or "Tanzmusik" by whatever their names were... Horrible!) While I'm on the subject, Welle:Erdball are playing in Helsingborg, Sweden on 31 July at the Tivoli synth festival, along with Robert Marlow, Covenant, Saft, Children Within, Aaron Sutcliffe (synthpop covers of Elvis songs) and Plastic Planet. More info at http://www.analogue.org/em/news/tivoli.html And no, I'm not involved. Ich bin nur ein F.A.N. ;-) > 3. Which KW sound-alike band do like better? Probably Komputer. Haven't heard Kraftwelt. Komputer I really like. I've seen them live twice, and they really have the look-and-feel of early KW: they don't once move from behind their synthesizers, don't smile, don't talk to the audience (except "We are Komputer. Thank you, good night.")... BTW, the "Tour de France" CD single is available in Sweden; you can order it from Hot Stuff (www.hotstuff.se). I bought a copy from them in Arvika this weekend. Nice festival, BTW; the high points for me were S.P.O.C.K, Das Ich and bob hund. Funker Vogt could be good with a better vocalist; I never saw De/Vision or Saft, but they sounded like last time I saw them... Sp=E4ter, - Anders Wahlbom | http://www.update.uu.se/~awahlbom/ (Finger for geek code) | http://www.cutoff.se/dss - NOW PLAYING: Kraftwerk: "Metropolis" (live in Utrecht 1981) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: Re:(kw) "Tour de France" in NYC. Date: 21 Jul 1999 12:02:16 rochow@pixelmagic.com wrote: >Mine were DM 12 apiece (at the current high $, only US$6.30); >how much were yours? (To my surprise, there's a little bitty HMV >So, how much was it, and was it an import or a US pressing? Ah yes, I forgot to mention the price. HMV Records in New York City is carrying them at US$9.99, which with the sales tax comes to a total of US$10.80. And yes, they are indeed import pressings from Europe and stickered as such on the packaging. nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: (kw) RE: XYZ Date: 21 Jul 1999 19:15:11 +0200 At 15.13 21/07/99 +0200, you wrote: >Hola Didi! > >>- The video of the song "(Hey you) what's that sound?" opens with the photo >>of the cover of Kraftwerk's "Ultra rare trax 1". > >I'm sorry to bother you. Please can you tell me what group or band or act >plays the song do you reffer to? They did a cover version or what? > >Thank you very much in advance. >Sorry to have troubled you. > >DER AUTOMAT OOOPS! I forgot to write the name of the band....Sorry! Anyway, no problem; they are Les Rythmes Digitales. Ciao, Didi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: Re:(kw) "Tour de France" in NYC. Date: 21 Jul 1999 19:21:21 +0200 At 11.01 21/07/99 -0400, rochow@pixelmagic.com wrote: >Of course. I don't think anybody'd complain. I'm getting 2 copies, >as they no doubt will have the usual short shelflive singles have. >Mine were DM 12 apiece (at the current high $, only US$6.30); >how much were yours?=20 >So, how much was it, and was it an import or a US pressing? > >-gbr I paid it 17.900 =A3 here in Milan, so 1/3 more expensive than your; but her= e everything is more expensive than in other places......... It's a CD import (Made in EU) by Caroline ITD. Didi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bruce M. Lloyd" Subject: Re: (kw) The Mystifying Oracle Date: 21 Jul 1999 12:12:50 -0400 kraftwerk-digest said on 7/21/99 11:44 AM... >Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:12:01 EDT >From: Greyseason@aol.com >Subject: (kw) The Mystifying Oracle > >The other night, my friends and I were asking different questions to my >Ouija >board. One of our questions was about when a new Kraftwerk album will come >out. It told us we can expect a new release from KW on November 17 of this >year. The board said the album will be called "Exon On Rasputin". My Ouija >board also stated that the album will change our lives forever. Let's keep >our fingers crossed for this relatively soon release date. Interesing how "Exon On Rasputin" contains the anagrammed words "Expo" and "Intro"! Bruce # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) Searching Farki... Date: 21 Jul 1999 16:21:05 -0300 Hello, Farki (Farkas), from Hungary. I lost your electronic address (e mail). Please, contact me privately... Eduardo Monteiro 97fm@colatina.com.br # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:49:58 +0100 Date: 21 Jul 1999 14:49:53 -0600 http://www.yalplay.com/ I've just been looking at the Yalplay Music and video site. I'm sure this has been mentioned before but they are advertising a video of the Mix. Any info on this? Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re(2): (kw) Tour De France in Austria out now Date: 21 Jul 1999 23:57:57 +0200 Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at schreibt: >Josef Gabler wrote: > >>Tour De France -Maxi Cd- has been released today. > >Funny thing...where did you buy it? At the EMI-Shop in the Kärntnerstrasse (of course...) > >When I asked the f*****g shop-assistent at Virgin Megastore yesterday >(!) about the new "Tour de France" he neither didn't know that >Kraftwerk still exist, nor anything about the new single ;-). Forget "Virgin-Megastore". I've been at Virgin in London , Frankfurt, Berlin, Edinburgh, etc., etc. It's everywhere the same... Lauter supergscheite mega-sonstwas Leute aber nix dahinter. > >Gruesse aus Wien, >Georgie Grüsse aus Wien auch ---josef > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "angelo" Subject: (kw) Kling Klang Date: 21 Jul 1999 19:33:38 -0300 Does Anyone knows where i'll can find photos about Kling Klang (Behind photos), equipaments photos? Thanks... --- ----------------- //////////ANGELO///////////////////// angelo@urbi.com.br Miguel Angelo C. Pra=E7a////// http://www.urbi.com.br/users/angelo \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ICQ: 11606126 /////////////////////// --- ----------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) bootleg for trade. Date: 21 Jul 1999 19:31:51 -0300 Hi, werkers. I have a extra copie of "bootleg" recorded in Koln, 1975. (This CD-R was sent for me by my friend Farki, from Hungary). Well, this CD-r are available for trade. Offers ??? These concert is very good, because shows old sounds of Kraftwerk. Tracks: Ruckzuck Autobahn Kometenmelodie I and II I like this "bootleg", but, I don´t need two copies... So... Write me, if interested. Eduardo Monteiro Rádio 97 FM from Brasil # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Kling Klang Date: 21 Jul 1999 15:47:21 -0700 >angelo wrote: >Does Anyone knows where i'll can find photos about Kling Klang (Behind >photos), equipaments photos? Visit these pretty cool Aktivitaet online pages: "Kling Klang: The Electronic Garden" @ http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/aktivitaet/10_kk0.htm and "Kling Klang: The Electronic Garden V 1992" @ http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/aktivitaet/10_kkv92.htm KW4EVER! Enrique p.s.: That site rocks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Dangermond" Subject: (kw) Re: Survey Date: 21 Jul 1999 19:16:48 -0400 ] 1. Which KW bootleg has the best sound quality? From what I've heard... the Warfield recording. The sound is better than being there was, as I recall. But I prefer... what I've heard of the Karlsruhe recording is sumptuous and special, and I wish the recording were as crisp and warm as the Warfield's. ] 2. Which KW tribute song or album do you prefer? ] 3. Which KW sound-alike band do like better? I don't know... I haven't heard any sound-alike bands or tributes. And I'm skeptical because there is something mysterious about Kraftwerk themselves... I think it has to do both with an integrity of form, the songs have a structure that hold them together. And in addition the conservation 0f energy in each song, and the clean and simple melodies that don't ever sound trite. There's a special warm sound and shape to the melodies as well, like the soaring sounds during "Europa Endlos" and the Technopop demo. Also that it's German. I don't know too much of the German language but words like Aether, have a mysterious and spiritual kind of component that backs up their scientific face. It allows the band to extract a lot of subtle glow behind a seemingly 'cold' exterior. So this is analogous to Kraftwerk. My other favorite musician is the late conductor Wilhelm Furtwangler, who is able to draw such wonderful sounds from orchestras. Kraftwerk's music is like a wonderful ride on a clean, flying machine. It was a natural first choice for a first ride on a bullet-train. There's an ecstasy that the band create that is somehow encoded in the sound, and fits perfectly with the rhythms of a fast train, a kind of technological ennoblement of the individual. I try to describe Kraftwerk to people and one thing that strikes me is that it's electronic music, but it's based in music and not in electronics. Sure they have the latest gadgets, but there's something behind it. It never loses its way in its own gimmickry. Of course many people have different tastes and some never really find their way in hearing Kraftwerk's music. Somehow I latched on to it the first time. Maybe it's an easy soundtrack for me because I work combining art and science. So there's no real cut 'formula' for imitating them, and really no substitute for the purist. Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) the mysterious new Kraftwerk CD Date: 18 Jul 1999 17:04:12 +0200 Hi, Here is the information I receive today from CDZONE about CD's to be released : New Release 19 Jul 1999 Kraftwerk: Kraftwerk (Audio CD) CR4232 Swedish Import # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Liethen Subject: (kw) More mp3 Bootlegs for downloading ... Date: 22 Jul 1999 00:30:19 -0500 For anyone that wants to download them, I just posted a whole bunch of Kraftwerk bootlegs. What is there: Detroit 98 ZKM 97 Linz 97 TribalGathering 97 London81 Tokyo81 Just fire up your web browser and goto: http://key.madison.tec.wi.us/pete/kw/ A few thing tho: Please only download ONE file at a time, this keeps more spots avaiable for others and heeps the load down on the computer. Try to download durning non-office hours for my time zone (-5 GMT) If this becomes a problem, I'll just shut down the HTTPd server during those times. And, please PLEASE don't screw with the server, I work on it all day long, and the last thing I need for it to do is start crashing. So, go and get it! -Peter Liethen pliethen@execpc.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timon Marmex Trzepacz Subject: Re: (kw) More mp3 Bootlegs for downloading ... Date: 21 Jul 1999 23:38:05 -0700 > Try to download durning non-office hours for my time zone (-5 GMT) If this > becomes a problem, I'll just shut down the HTTPd server during those times. If anybody is having trouble determining what the time difference is from -5 GMT, there is a time zone converter at http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzref.tzc I downloaded a couple of files before I realized that I had calculated the time wrong... sorry about that. -- Timon -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tomasz_KIRMUC@tdk-lu.com Subject: (kw) Re: CD-R Date: 22 Jul 1999 09:27:06 +0200 Tomasz KIRMUC 22-07-99 09:27 AM Eugene Zaikonnikov wrote: "With my experience error rate depends also on matrices (ie blank CD-R discs) you use. Philips, Sony and Verbatim are ok, but TDK definitely sucks. Having >about 50 discs recorded, I spoiled three matrices - all of them made by TDK." Well, though opinion but I must say I have straight different experience. I have more than 100 TDK's CD-R recorded (both data and audio) and I spoiled only two of them (and it was due to my mistake!). More of that I receive constant feedback from the market and it seems majority of customers appreciate the quality of TDK CD-Rs which is represented e.g. by our market share. It is also confirmed by independent sources, like: ComputerBILD 17/98 -> in top six there were three TDK CD-Rs (first Philips was 7th, Sony 13th and Verbatim 16th). Nevertheless, it is free market and thankfully we all can choose from few good brands available to purchase. If you found some problems with our products I think it's good idea to pass this claims to the place of purchase and I'm sure they will be checked very carefully by our Quality Assurance Department. But let's go back to KRAFTWERK (it's not TDK mailing list). Can anybody could send me details (cat. numbers) about American (Elektra) releases of Kraftwerk albums. I especially look for catalogue numbers of Elektra (Capitol?) The Man-Machine. Tomasz Kirmuc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary Pedoto" Subject: (kw) Tour De France single Date: 22 Jul 1999 04:58:01 -0400 I just got 3 copies of Tour De France from a friend. I told him to get them for me if he came across it while CD shopping. He found them at a place called HMV in New York City. HMV is in Manhattan and has lots of imports. The price of the CD is $10. I don't know the address of the place but, I'm sure they're listed. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Re: CD-R Date: 22 Jul 1999 09:08:29 -0700 What? I have never had issues with TDK. All of my cohorts use TDK - I'm the black sheep using Maxell on occassion. Tomasz_KIRMUC@tdk-lu.com wrote: > > Tomasz KIRMUC > 22-07-99 09:27 AM > > Eugene Zaikonnikov wrote: > > "With my experience error rate depends also on matrices (ie blank CD-R > discs) you use. Philips, Sony and Verbatim are ok, but TDK definitely > sucks. Having >about 50 discs recorded, I spoiled three matrices - all of > them made by TDK." > > Well, though opinion but I must say I have straight different experience. I > have more than 100 TDK's CD-R recorded (both data and audio) and I spoiled > only two of them (and it was due to my mistake!). More of that I receive # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) Bootleg for trade Date: 22 Jul 1999 14:24:27 -0300 Hi, werkers. I have a extra copie of "bootleg" recorded in Koln, 1975. (This CD-R was sent for me by my friend Farki, from Hungary). Well, this CD-r are available for trade. Offers ??? These concert is very good, because shows old sounds of Kraftwerk. Tracks: Ruckzuck Autobahn Kometenmelodie I and II I like this "bootleg", but, I don´t need two copies... So... Write me, if interested. Eduardo Monteiro Rádio 97 FM from Brasil # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: Re:RE: (kw) Dreiklangdimensionen Date: 21 Jul 1999 16:03:09 +0200 rochow@pixelmagic.com wrote: >>>English version available : Triad Dimensions. >> >>The English version it could be Three Dimension Sound which is the >>translation of Dreiklangdimensionen >No, because Dreiklang (Triad, I guess) is one term, and -dimensionen >(plural) is another. German has split verbs, but no noun-splitting >in compound words that I'm aware of. Three Dimension Sound, if taken >to mean three-dimensional sound, would be Dreidimensionalklang. > >And, related to none of the above: Verbing weirds language :) Closest match of "Dreiklangdimensionen." is "Dreik=F6nigsfest (n)." and i= ts translations are: Epiphany. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) Re: CD-R Date: 22 Jul 1999 14:25:17 -0400 >>> Can anybody could send me details (cat. numbers) about American (Elektra) releases of Kraftwerk albums. I especially look for catalogue numbers of Elektra (Capitol?) The Man-Machine. <<< KW's Elektra albums were originally released on Warner Bros., and re-released on Elektra in 1988. WB pressings are more desirable, I think. "Autobahn" (25326) "Electric Cafe" (25525) "Computer World (3549, which becomes 23549 after new cataloging system introduced in 1982) Capitol albums that I have on CD, latest catalog numbers: "Trans-Europe Express" (C2-46373) "Radio-Activity" (C2-46374) Hope this helps! Peace. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rochow@pixelmagic.com Subject: Re:RE: Re:RE: (kw) Dreiklangdimensionen Date: 22 Jul 1999 15:36:38 -0400 =3EClosest match of "Dreiklangdimensionen=2E=22 is "Dreik=F6nigsfest (n= =29=2E=22 and its =3Etranslations are=3A =3EEpiphany=2E =3E =3EDER AUTOMAT Okay <=3A=29=20 Actually=2C I didn't know that that's what epiphany means - interestin= g=2E BTW=3A does anyone know the lyrics to the 'Die Germanz' Robots parody=3F= = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) Madonna Bootleg Date: 22 Jul 1999 18:15:26 +0000 >There's a new Madonna bootleg remix 2-CD out, "X-Ray Mixes", that >includes the following track: > >"Frozen (feat. Kraftwerk) (special remix by DJ Pepsi)" > > Klaus Zaepke so has anyone got or heard this track. i'd like to know if it's worth the money? i saw the 2xCD on eBay many times, but they sell for up to $100. too much. lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) TdF at AB-CD Date: 22 Jul 1999 18:16:37 +0000 forgive me if this was already posted, i haven't read all the e-mail yet, but i just got this from AB-CD: >Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 >Subject: Info from AB-CD >Kraftwerk - UPDATE....... > >Tour De France (EP) + 3 Tracks EMI Germany > >Re-issue of this classic single - now on CD - with a brand new remix ... > >1. Tour De France (Radio Version) >2. Tour De France (Kling Klang Remix) >3. Tour De France (Francois K Remix) > >4. Video Track : Tour De France. > >AB-CD price only $9.97 > >Get it before it's gone! > >www.ab-cd.com i just placed my order. lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: Re: (kw) Madonna Bootleg Date: 22 Jul 1999 17:38:12 -0600 i'd like to know if it's worth the money? Got mine for $30.00. Vinyl. It's worth it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phaethon0@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Madonna Bootleg Date: 22 Jul 1999 19:41:31 EDT Does the track truly feature Kraftwerk or (way more likely) does DJ Pepsi just mix some KW song elements into "Frozen"? -ericg- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nate Ward Subject: (kw) Audi/VW Date: 22 Jul 1999 19:59:46 -0400 Hi This may seem like a really bad question for the Kraftwerk list, but is Audi owned by Volkswagen? Maybe it has some relevance considering Kraftwerk drove Volkswagens for some time. Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nate Ward Subject: (kw) PAiA vocoder Date: 22 Jul 1999 21:26:20 -0400 I am thinking about buying the PAiA vocoder. The price looks good, I think I can probably assemblie it properly, and the samples on the Internet site sound good. I was wondering if anyone on the list had experience with this product, and what your opinions/experiences with it are. Please contact me off-list with any info you may have. Thanks, Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Re: (kw) Audi/VW Date: 23 Jul 1999 00:48:51 -0400 >This may seem like a really bad question for the Kraftwerk list, but is >Audi owned by Volkswagen? Maybe it has some relevance considering >Kraftwerk drove Volkswagens for some time. I'm not exactly sure about who owns what, but I do know that VW / Porsche / Audi are related (or at least they were). To keep this post on topic... DJ Compute - I LOVE those remixes. Excellent work! Huggy Bear # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hendrickx, Margaretha" Subject: (kw) www.mp3spy.com Date: 23 Jul 1999 00:21:06 -0500 Just discovered a GREAT way to listen to music on the WWW www.mp3spy.com. Incredible quality (at least some of the stations.) Those who want more details, send me a private e-mail. Cheers * Maggie PS. Thanks for all those who replied to my two questions about good quality CD-R's. I got a lot of private responses as well. I will reply to you all and let you know what ended up being my best buy. It is definitely not MAXELL; at least not for the burner that I have; a HEWLETT PACKARD 7200 series. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (kw) Orbital/Art of Noise/Kraftwerk Date: 22 Jul 1999 21:50:03 PDT Latest issue of Raygun magazine : "Orbital meets Art of Noise" Paul Hartnoll talks with Paul Morley and Anne Dudley about drum machines, Hatnoll's early punk days and how he switched over from liking the Dead Kennedys to rap and fell in love with brother Phil's copy of "Beat Box"; how both groups have been able to have the upper hand over the music industry for so many years, commercialism, and both groups' love of Kraftwerk. Paul Morley (AON) ----- "You talk about Kraftwerk. I consider Kraftwerk to be Group Zero. In the true history of music, they're the most important thing, as opposed to the other history of music where Elvis Presley was the most important." Paul Hartnoll (Orbital) ----- "Kraftwerk is where it really all started." Paul Morley (AON) ---- "And indeed where it will all finish." For the ZTT list : Got all three Amplified custom CD's in the mail. Quite pleased. I love the opening of "A Time To Hear (What languages are those voice samples in ? It sounds like Italian and Japanese.) " and "Who's Afraid of Scale". Why is it that some demo tracks sound better than the released versions ? As far as the "flaws" are concerned, I mean, what the fuck do you expect ? They're demos for crying out loud; of course they're going to have glitches in them ! NoiseWerker _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rochow@pixelmagic.com Subject: Re[2]: (kw) Audi/VW Date: 23 Jul 1999 10:51:50 -0400 >>This may seem like a really bad question for the Kraftwerk list, but is >>Audi owned by Volkswagen? Maybe it has some relevance considering >>Kraftwerk drove Volkswagens for some time. >I'm not exactly sure about who owns what, but I do know that VW / Porsche >/Audi are related (or at least they were). I think Porsche is somewhat separate, though the VW-Porsche 914 used a VW engine, I think, while some low-end Porsches of the 80s (and maybe even the 968?) used VW/Audi engines and Audi transmissions. VW owns Audi since some time in the 70s; then Audi 50 (few made, I think) = VW Polo; Audi 80 = VW Derby; now, the A3 and TT share the Golf/Jetta ("Bora" :) platform; the current Passat chassis is loosely based on the A4. The 1.8 Turbo engine is shared. It all is quite obvious when you look in an engine compartment - in my old 5000S, there are VW and Audi emblems side-by-side everywhere. Why the question, though? (BTW, besides VW owning RR/Bentley to some large fraction (excl. the name?), Audi owns Lamborghini...) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rochow@pixelmagic.com Subject: (kw) TdF... Date: 23 Jul 1999 14:01:10 -0400 After a bit of working with it (my cheap carousel CD player requires to 'check' the CD after selecting it while the tray is out - if you turn to it after closing the tray, it rejects it)/(my NT-PC-at-work's CD player program rejects it as a data CD, but 'media player' works), I'm very much enjoying the new TdF CD. Even though the picture has been at kraftwerk.com for years, I just now realized that it's The 4 on those bikes - the one on the right is Florian, I'd guess Ralf is #1 or maybe #3. But are the other two WF and KB, or have they been edited to be Fritz and Henning? <:) (I couldn't believe my eyes when I noticed they'd mirrored Fritz in the mix album...) And who is Schmitt, as listed for Text on the back? (I just looked at Electric Cafe; a Maxime Schmitt is listed without specific credit) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernie Longmire/Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Survey Date: 23 Jul 1999 10:29:29 -0600 On Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 05:43:11PM +0200, Anders Wahlbom wrote: >> Well, I don't know of any music artist that is pro-illegal. > > What about the Grateful Dead? It's not illegal if the copyright holder gives their permission, which the Grateful Dead did. -- Lazlo Nibble - lazlo@studio-nibble.com - http://www.studio-nibble.com -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Young Subject: (kw) TDF Date: 23 Jul 1999 14:16:32 -0400 (EDT) I'm glad to read that you've all raced around to all the HMV's in New York to snap up multiple copies of TDF. That must explain why I haven't found one in any of the 3 I've gone to. Same goes for Tower and Virgin. jmy _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: Re: (kw) TDF Date: 23 Jul 1999 14:48:27 Jeff Young wrote: >I'm glad to read that you've all raced around to all >the HMV's in New York to snap up multiple copies of >TDF. That must explain why I haven't found one in any >of the 3 I've gone to. Same goes for Tower and >Virgin. I know that the HMV on 34th Street & 6th Avenue (where I purchased my own copy) still has them plentifully in stock. You'll not find them mixed in amongst the other Kraftwerk discs, but rather they're displayed on the shelf directly *above* the Kraftwerk section. They may also be in the CD single section at the front of the store as well if you can't find them on the shelf by the other KW albums. By now I'd be surprised if Other Music on West 4th Street off Broadway didn't also have them in stock yet. I had checked another HMV location on 46th Street & 5th Avenue earlier that day and there were none to speak of - not because they sold out but because they hadn't put them out in the first place. That particular location is a snip smaller and always seems to have far less of a selection. Stick with 34th & 6th Ave if you're in NYC and are searching for 'Tour de France' on CD. nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: (kw) commercial Date: 23 Jul 1999 15:45:05 -0400 hey all. ive poped up some of my music on mp3.com. im at http://www.mp3.com/wettin sofar only two songs, but ill keep posting my music there. more is on its way. karl/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) "pro-illegal" was: Survey Date: 23 Jul 1999 15:13:36 +0000 >>> Well, I don't know of any music artist that is pro-illegal. try reading this: www.negativland.com and www.detritus.net/illegalart or perhaps you heard of EBN, Jon Oswald, or even a recent pop success Chambawamba, etc. if not look them up, it's certainly worth it. lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: datafreq Subject: (kw) best of kraftwerk Date: 23 Jul 1999 16:46:39 -0400 don't know if this has been discussed yet...but i was in the hmv superstore here in toronto, and they have a listing on the upcoming releases board " aug 24 - best of kraftwerk" any ideas ??? dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) best of kraftwerk Date: 23 Jul 1999 14:11:37 -0700 >dave wrote: >... i was in the hmv superstore here in toronto, and they have a listing on the upcoming releases board " aug 24 - best of kraftwerk" any ideas ??? I sure hope is the multi-disc set: Kraftwerk "The Werks" (The Right Stuff) KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: RE: (kw) best of kraftwerk Date: 23 Jul 1999 17:29:41 -0400 ] don't know if this has been discussed yet...but i was in the hmv ] superstore ] here in toronto, and they have a listing on the ] upcoming releases board " aug 24 - best of kraftwerk" ] ] any ideas ??? ] ] dave there is a kraftwerk album released in japan called 'the best of kraftwerk' i dont have any details, but i wouldnt be suprised if this is the album. karl/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nitrous Subject: Re: (kw) commercial Date: 23 Jul 1999 17:39:42 -0400 Hiya, Damn......Thats some great stuff.I appreciate you letting me on to your music.I love the eerieness of it all. Really great music ..I would love some more.. Best regards Nitrous karl wettin wrote: > > hey all. > > ive poped up some of my music on mp3.com. > im at http://www.mp3.com/wettin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Henderson" Subject: (kw) TDF single Date: 23 Jul 1999 15:54:46 -0600 The TDF single is also available for US$9.99 from another US importer that I've dealt with regularly. www.sirencd.com Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: RE: (kw) commercial Date: 23 Jul 1999 17:58:17 -0400 ] Damn......Thats some great stuff.I appreciate you letting me on to your ] music.I love the eerieness of it all. ] Really great music ..I would love some more.. thanks alot. i'll pop some more up during this weekend. karl/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: Re: (kw) best of kraftwerk Date: 24 Jul 1999 00:02:23 +0200 datafreq wrote: >don't know if this has been discussed yet...but i was in the hmv >superstore >here in toronto, and they have a listing on the >upcoming releases board " aug 24 - best of kraftwerk" >any ideas ??? Nothing "new" ;-). Import-CD from Japan, AFAIK, wich songs like "Geiger Counter", "Radioactivity", "Europe Endless" and so on... ...nothing new, just the old stuff ;-). Gruesse aus Wien, Georgie -- * "Synthetic electronic sounds, industrial rhythms all around..." * * ...heute Abend aus Deutschland: KRAFTWERK * * Georg Jajus - Vienna - Austria * * * http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * phone & SMS: +436765621850 * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: Re: (kw) the mysterious new Kraftwerk CD Date: 23 Jul 1999 23:55:13 +0200 Arnaud de Bonald wrote: >Hi, >Here is the information I receive today from CDZONE about CD's to be >released : >New Release 19 Jul 1999 Kraftwerk: Kraftwerk (Audio CD) CR4232 > Swedish Import Well...I think this "new" CD will be as same "new" as "Tour de France" is ;-). It'll be the x-th re-release of "Man Machine" or so... . Come on, Ralf & Florian, do something, before Kling Klang-Studio breaks down on 1.1.2000 ;-)! Gruesse aus Wien, Georgie -- * "Synthetic electronic sounds, industrial rhythms all around..." * * ...heute Abend aus Deutschland: KRAFTWERK * * Georg Jajus - Vienna - Austria * * * http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * phone & SMS: +436765621850 * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) TdF on MTV Date: 24 Jul 1999 01:43:55 +0200 Has anybody seen/taped the "Tour de France"-Video on MTV (Germany) yesterday? Unfourtunately I missed it, however, a friend told me it was the b/w-version... . Gruesse aus Wien, Georgie -- * "Synthetic electronic sounds, industrial rhythms all around..." * * ...heute Abend aus Deutschland: KRAFTWERK * * Georg Jajus - Vienna - Austria * * * http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * phone & SMS: +436765621850 * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: (kw) Fan mixes Date: 23 Jul 1999 21:37:11 -0600 (MDT) Since everyone seems to be flogging their personal KW-inspired stuff here, I'd like to toot someone else's horn. At http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs/downloads you'll find a zipped copy of more44st.mp3. This is a Kraftwerk mix done by Charlie Crash, who used to hang out here on the list. Haven't heard from him in a while. This is probably my favorite fan-made mix. It seems to get better every time I listen to it. I'll leave the file up till the end of July. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * Microsoft software: It may bloated, but at least it's slow. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gareth Evans" Subject: (kw) Tour De France CD Single Date: 24 Jul 1999 14:36:07 +0100 I just picked up a copy in the Virgin Megastore Liverpool. They have another 2 copies if anybody in the area is looking for it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Armin.Poecker@t-online.de (Armin Poecker) Subject: (kw) faces on TDF CD Date: 24 Jul 1999 11:35:58 +0200 > Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:01:10 -0400 > From: rochow@pixelmagic.com > Subject: (kw) TdF... > > Even though the picture has been at kraftwerk.com for years, > I just now realized that it's The 4 on those bikes - the > one on the right is Florian, I'd guess Ralf is #1 or maybe #3. Ralf Huetter is, as on the old releases, on the left, Florian Schneider in on the right. > But are the other two WF and KB, or have they been edited > to be Fritz and Henning? <:) Well, they are NOT Fluer and Bartos on the new release. On the www.kraftwerk.com TDF graphic, there are three Ralf Huetters and then Florian Schnedier on the right. On the new CD and 12", the second and third bikers are not Ralf Huetter, so one may guess they are supposed to depict Schmitz and Hilpert. Apart from that, the head of the third biker (from the left) sits more on the right shoulder than on the neck... > And who is Schmitt, as listed for Text on the back? > (I just looked at Electric Cafe; a Maxime Schmitt is listed > without specific credit) According to the Pascal Bussy book, he was an EMI/Pathe-Marconi official from France and helped with french lyrics, he is also credited on Mini Calculateur. Gunther Poecker # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ward" Subject: (kw) The Mystifying Oracle is right Date: 24 Jul 1999 21:59:06 -0400 Hi My "Magic 8-Ball" backs up the Sam Paterson's Ouija board on all counts. The Thought you all might be interested Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDYDADUCK@aol.com Subject: (kw) (no subject) Date: 24 Jul 1999 22:08:02 EDT billboard online lists an aug 24 release of kraftwerk's the werks! multi disc... what is this? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: (kw) Translation Date: 25 Jul 1999 11:08:55 -0400 Does anyone know what "Erslesene Programme - Aus Zwei Dekaden" means? Thanks! Huggy Bear np: Ananas Symphonie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO Jingle scandal update Date: 25 Jul 1999 10:05:37 -0700 Would someone please email me a link to the jingle? Thanks! Bill Talley Jeroen de Haan wrote: > > > So I guess we can expect to see this on CD, hear it in advertisements for > jeans > > and beer, and perhaps be able to purchase the sheet music? :-) > > You funny guy... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Familie de Haan" Subject: (kw) EXPO Jingle URL Date: 25 Jul 1999 20:08:09 +0200 http://www.expo2000.de/englisch/eprogramm/index_ep_kraft.html Good luck & have fun, Jeroen -- LIVING WITH OTHER PEOPLE: Civilization is a religion. Civilized people walk funny. There is always a party going on somewhere. People will remember you better if you always wear the same outfit. Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: (kw) MTV Date: 25 Jul 1999 00:54:34 +0200 5 minutes ago the video of TdF on MTV Italy! Last time I saw a KW video on MTV it was 2 years ago (TEE) ! ! Didi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) Videos and CDs for trade Date: 25 Jul 1999 17:53:46 -0300 Hello, "werkers". If you still don`t know the new, here is: I have VIDEOS and CDs by Kraftwerk for trade. For example, I have videos recorded in 91-92 (The Mix Tour) and 1998 (live in New York). On CD-r, I have for trade the concert recorded in 1975, KOLN. Interested ? So, write me privately. 97 FM 97fm@colatina.com.br # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Ullrich Subject: Re: (kw) Translation Date: 26 Jul 1999 00:12:53 +0200 Hallo! Huggy Bear wrote: > > Does anyone know what "Erslesene Programme - Aus Zwei Dekaden" means? Means: Selected programs - out of 2 decades (20 years) Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: http://come.to/ullrich or the full link http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3586/ Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician .oooO KAPSCH AG / SGB2 Vienna / Austria ( ) Oooo. Traffic Control and Transmission Technology ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bruce Lloyd" Subject: (kw) Overheard sample.. Date: 26 Jul 1999 06:29:12 -0400 All, Here in Ontario, a province in Canada, the telephone company offers a telephone that has a small LCD screen and numerous buttons (including an optional keyboard). This phone, the Vista 350, allows you to shop, bank, get theatre listings, etc, all from home. http://www.bell.ca/bellworld/tools/estore/bell_canada/DisplayProduct.asp?Pro ductID=137&CategoryID=1&LanguageID=EN One thing you can do is check the number of AirMiles reward points you have - and the little intro jingle is Kraftwerk's is a brief (i.e. 5 second) mix of 'The Telephone Call' that I've never heard. I'm sure that someone did it specifically for the phone company, but it sounds very cool, very fresh. I will try and get a recording of it. Bruce # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RENE HVID JENSEN Subject: (kw) Cover versions of Das Modell Date: 26 Jul 1999 09:46:58 MDT The Inebriated Sounds of The Tremolo Beer Gut The Tremolo Beer Gut (1999) This CD contains a instrumental cover of Das Modell. The band is danish, = and the style is 60ies surf. TG. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Same old, same old Date: 26 Jul 1999 10:24:15 -0700 Several online stores are offering prebooks for upcoming KW releases. All of them are UK imports, and are set for August 03. http://cdu2.cduniverse.com/asp/cdu_main.asp?Cart=78518137 and http://cdworld.com/ offer three *new - limited edition* releases: 1. *Kraftwerk* 2. *new* 3. *Ralf & Florian* http://www.amazon.com/ offers the same as above plus an upcoming (date not confirmed) 3CD set called: Electronic Dance Classics [BOX SET] for $12.99 (that's cheap!) Which contains (among many others): Disc: 1 1. Spineless Jelly - Future Sound Of London 2. Wind Of Change - Hawkwind 3. Out Of The Blue - Roxy Music 4. Anubian Light Destiny - Anubian Lights 5. Whanfired 1883 - Klaus Schulze 6. All Saints - David Bowie 7. Venusian Skyline - Melting Euphoria 8. Last Lagoon, The - William Orbit 9. Trip To G9, A - Spiral Realms 10. Space Does Not Care - Zero Gravity 11. Antenna - Kraftwerk 12. #9 - Aphex Twin 13. Wind On Water - Fripp & Eno 14. Oblivium - Dialte KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eugene Zaikonnikov" Subject: Re: (kw) Same old, same old Date: 26 Jul 1999 20:54:03 +0300 > > Several online stores are offering prebooks for upcoming KW releases. > All of them are UK imports, and are set for August 03. > http://cdu2.cduniverse.com/asp/cdu_main.asp?Cart=78518137 > and > http://cdworld.com/ > offer three *new - limited edition* releases: > 1. *Kraftwerk* > 2. *new* Hmm, are they really implying something new? If so, we have to wait a little until they cancel it :) -- Eugene # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Tour de France" on EMI CD promo sampler Date: 26 Jul 1999 22:32:14 +0000 I haven't seen it myself, but it seems that Kraftwerk's "Tour de France" is featured on a current EMI instore CD promo sampler. The tracklisting is reported as: 1. Check Da Rapper: Pennsylvania '99 2. Be: By My Side 3. Moby: Bodyrock 4. Kraftwerk: Tour de France I've also spotted an entry for a "Kraftwerk: Tour de France - Remix" Minidisc on a Dutch record release list. No further details and no catalogue number, though. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) New album newsbit Date: 26 Jul 1999 22:32:15 +0000 According to todays Tagblatt Kraftwerk are expected to release a new album "in the near future". No source provided. http://www.tagblatt.ch/sgt/online/a_kult.cfm?pass_id=301169 Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Klaus Dinger and the EXPO Jingle Date: 26 Jul 1999 22:32:15 +0000 A journalist approached Klaus Dinger for an interview about Kraftwerk's EXPO jingle some days ago. The request (in German) and Klaus Dinger's answer (in English) are documented at http://www.gawl.de/Dingerland/spiegel_int.html. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Young Subject: (kw) new album "newsbit" Date: 26 Jul 1999 16:43:58 -0400 (EDT) > According to todays Tagblatt Kraftwerk are expected > to release a new > album "in the near future". No source provided. > > http://www.tagblatt.ch/sgt/online/a_kult.cfm?pass_id=301169 > > Klaus Zaepke Gee, there's a stunning revelation. "In naher Zukunft/In the near future"...maybe someone can give us the equally stunning news that yet another clueless online CD place has a listing for it. Jeff _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) TDF reissue Date: 28 Jul 1999 13:00:14 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_w/CprODCy3eEjzc1zgj+/Q) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Folks, Has anyone in the UK succeeded in obtaining the 12" vinyl reissue of 'Tour de France', through mail-order or otherwise? On the the subject of which, is anybody aware of *any* promotion related to this release? In one (major) record store the staff didn't even know Kraftwerk where still going, let alone they had a single out! 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Lux" Subject: (kw) RE: Kevin Lux cover song? Date: 28 Jul 1999 18:37:46 -0500 Greetings all, I am considering doing an instrumental cover of a Kraftwerk song... I am interested KW listmember's choices as to which one. If I decide to go with it, I will release it too all KW listmembers first.. Thank you for your interest! Sincerely, Kevin Lux http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com http://www.mp3.com/kevinlux Electronic Music for the cutting edge. Futurelounge is now available. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) RE: Kevin Lux cover song? Date: 28 Jul 1999 23:25:59 -0600 (MDT) On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Kevin Lux wrote: > I am considering doing an instrumental cover of a Kraftwerk song... I am > interested KW listmember's choices as to which one. If I decide to go with > it, I will release it too all KW listmembers first.. Decisions, decisions... The Model is an obvious choice, because it can't help but sound great any way you cover it. It gets covered a lot, probably for that reason. But I'll say I'd like to hear an instrumental rerendering of Sex Object. There's a challenge for you. How would Sex Object sound without all those strings in the opening theme? /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * Microsoft software: It may bloated, but at least it's slow. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Mills Subject: (kw) mp3 request Date: 29 Jul 1999 13:23:55 +0100 Will someone please post or tell me where I can get any of the following: Los Maniquies Showroom Dummies (2:38 remix) Der Telefonanaruf (8:10 remix) Radioactivitat (Kevorkian and Orbit 12" remixes) Radioactivity (Orbit Hardcore mix) Tour de France (original 6:30 version - French or German) Regards Paul Mills paulm@intercell.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wolfhardt.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: (kw) New YAMO-Album Date: 29 Jul 1999 17:12:05 +0200 Hello, does anybody know, when the new YAMO-Album will be released. A silly shop-assistent of a CD-store told me it might be canceled. Can anybody confirm this ? Please say NO ! bye Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) RE: Kevin Lux cover song? Date: 29 Jul 1999 12:27:57 +0200 On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:37:46 -0500, Kevin Lux wrote: > > >Greetings all, > >I am considering doing an instrumental cover of a Kraftwerk song... I am >interested KW listmember's choices as to which one. If I decide to go with >it, I will release it too all KW listmembers first.. Why not TanzMusik? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Fw: (kw) RE: Kevin Lux cover song? Date: 29 Jul 1999 12:52:56 -0400 >On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Kevin Lux wrote: > I am considering doing an instrumental cover of a Kraftwerk song... I am > interested KW listmember's choices as to which one. If I decide to go with > it, I will release it too all KW listmembers first.. My opinion... Probably my three favourite Kraftwerk songs are already instrumentals, but here they are: Ohm Sweet Ohm Komettenmelodie 2 Metal On Metal (The Mix version) I don't see how these could miss... Huggy Bear np: Mitternacht (by Robot - former list member) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: Re: (kw) RE: Kevin Lux cover song? Date: 29 Jul 1999 15:43:49 Soleil Lapierre wrote: >The Model is an obvious choice, because it can't help but sound great any >way you cover it. It gets covered a lot, probably for that reason. Just curious if anyone else out here shares the following sentiment regarding "The Model". For some reason, of all the songs I've ever heard Kraftwerk perform *live* in concert over the years, "The Model" has always struck me as the one which sounded the worst live, as if they were using amateur Casio keyboards or something, the type you might expect to find in a live wedding or bar mitzvah band. I've heard KW perform "The Model" live during the '81 tour, the '91 tour, and even the '98 tour, and still I've found the same thing to be true when compared to the rest of the songs in their canon. It's a great song, I just wish it sounded closer to the recorded version from "The Man-Machine" LP when performed live on-stage. nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Raistrick Subject: RE: (kw) New YAMO-Album Date: 29 Jul 1999 17:19:34 +0100 although demos of 3 tracks of the new album,provisionally entitled "serenity supreme", have been recorded, wolfgang is still discussing a recording contract for the next yamo releases and therefore no date is set.so, in effect , there is nothing to cancel. khris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) RE: Kevin Lux cover song? Date: 29 Jul 1999 14:28:50 -0700 Soleil Lapierre wrote: >The Model is an obvious choice, because it can't help but sound great any >way you cover it. It gets covered a lot, probably for that reason. "The Model" has got to be KW's catchiest-easiest-going song. Even my mom likes it. KW4EVER! Enrique n.p.: "Risotto" Fluke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) RE: Kevin Lux cover song? Date: 29 Jul 1999 15:56:53 -0600 (MDT) On Thu, 29 Jul 1999 nebulous@erols.com wrote: > Just curious if anyone else out here shares the following > sentiment regarding "The Model". For some reason, of all the songs > I've ever heard Kraftwerk perform *live* in concert over the years, > "The Model" has always struck me as the one which sounded the worst > live, as if they were using amateur Casio keyboards or something, the I've never had the fortune to see KW live, but I've listened to all the bootlegs that have been floating around in MP3 format recently. I'd have to say I think The Model generally sounds pretty good live. The only ones it didn't sound good in were the 1981 concerts, and I blame that on bad bootlegging equipment. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * Microsoft software: It may bloated, but at least it's slow. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) language translator Date: 29 Jul 1999 18:41:14 +0000 hello, i am sorry this is off topic but someone on this list used an online language trnslator. would the person(s) who have the url for the translator please contact me privatly with it. sorry once again for off topic post and thank you for your help. lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (kw) Off-Topic : Telex Date: 29 Jul 1999 17:34:33 PDT Hey everyone ! I have been hearing and reading a lot about the group Telex lately; supposedly they were pretty big back in their heyday and had just as much influence in the electronic scene as KW did. Anyways, there is hardly any resources for them on the web, and I was wondering if anyone had any MP3's of them. I've heard a few Real Audio clips of a few of their songs, and I'm already starting to fall in love with their sound. Any other info would greatly be appreciated. NoiseWerker _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Fw: Message Bounce: Fw: (kw) Off-Topic : Telex Date: 30 Jul 1999 09:57:35 -0400 >Hey everyone ! >I have been hearing and reading a lot about the group Telex lately; >supposedly they were pretty big back in their heyday and had just as much >influence in the electronic scene as KW did. I have two Telex albums on tape...personally, I like KW more. When I get a chance, I will make some .MP3s and put them on my FTP site, and let you know. The person who made the tape for me was also gracious enough to make photocopies of the front and back of the album sleeves. One Telex song is one about my very favourite artist, the late Spike Jones. (1911-1965). Probably my favourite Telex song would be Temporary Chicken. They also did a cover of Tour de France. Is this Kraftwerk? No. Does it sound like Kraftwerk? No. I don't think Yamo sounds like Kraftwerk either, though. Huggy Bear # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 jingle Date: 26 Jul 1999 06:30:19 +0100 According to UK's Q magazine Kraftwerk were paid 200,000 pounds to produce the three second Expo Jingle... who knows? stranger things have happened. The rerelease of TDF for exaple... -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: RE: (kw) Expo 2000 jingle Date: 30 Jul 1999 15:37:17 -0400 ] According to UK's Q magazine Kraftwerk were paid 200,000 pounds to ] produce the three second Expo Jingle... they are probably sitting on an island in the carribian, smoking habanas right now. (: i would. karl\ http://www.mp3.com/wettin/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (kw) Stranger things / Expo 2000 Date: 30 Jul 1999 15:34:36 PDT >>>>> "....stranger things have happened. Like the reissue of TdF." Or how about the fact that "Man Machine" has been deleted from EMI UK's catalog, and that "Man Machine" is the only Kraftwerk CD available in EMI Canada's catalog. NoiseWerker _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "markbl" Subject: Re: (kw) language translator Date: 28 Feb 1999 23:39:33 -0000 hello, i am sorry this is off topic but someone on this list used an online language trnslator. would the person(s) who have the url for the translator please contact me privatly with it. sorry once again for off topic post and thank you for your help. lenny g I'm not sure it is off-topic so I've posted the Babel Translator to the group http://babelfish.altavista.com/cgi-bin/translate It's a great resource supporting multi-lingual translation (including German) to-from English # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wolfhardt.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: (kw) TdF German chart position Date: 31 Jul 1999 08:42:07 +0200 Hi, "Tour de France" has climbed up to No 87 (Strange, last week it has left the Top 100) bye Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 jingle Date: 31 Jul 1999 10:51:43 +0200 On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 06:30:19 +0100, Mark Reed wrote: > >According to UK's Q magazine Kraftwerk were paid 200,000 pounds to >produce the three second Expo Jingle... hmm. this is far more than DM400.000 isn't it? :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) TdF German chart position Date: 31 Jul 1999 11:08:03 +0200 On Sat, 31 Jul 1999 08:42:07 +0200, Wess wrote: > >Hi, > >"Tour de France" has climbed up to No 87 >(Strange, last week it has left the Top 100) hey. let's buy One Million copies. This way, they will be number One on the German chart and will be obliged to make quickly a new album. :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Electric Music: "Young Urban Professional" CD-Single? Date: 31 Jul 1999 17:17:28 +0000 Apparently there is a (new?) Electric Music CD-Single out: "The Young Urban Professional". The track listing is reported as 1. The Young Urban Professional 2. Sunshine (Radio Edit) 3. Sunshine (Electro) Does anyone know if the title track is the album version or a remix / edit? Thanks in advance, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: (kw) DJ Compute mixes Date: 31 Jul 1999 11:56:22 -0400 This question is aimed specifically at DJ Compute: What exactly is the other song mixed with Boing Boom Tschak in your mix BBT-Roses.MP3 This is an excellent mix, those songs go well together. Great job! Thank you in advance... Huggy Bear # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re(2): (kw) TdF German chart position Date: 31 Jul 1999 19:49:50 +0200 bonald@altern.org schreibt: >hey. let's buy One Million copies. >This way, they will be number One on the German chart and will be obliged >to make quickly a new album. Maybe the world is a disc... Regards ---josef _________________In _Wien_Sitzen_Wir_Im_Nachtcafe________________ _____________________Direktverbindung_T.E.E._____________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: (kw) "New" Date: 01 Aug 1999 11:08:43 +1000 Sorry if this has been covered before. But at CD Universe they have a kw album called "New", but they have no further explanations, so short of buying it to find out what it is, I'd rather ask here first. http://cdu2.cduniverse.com/asp/exactartist.asp?type=Artist&frm=&search=Kraftwerk&tries=1&qs=artist Vladimir PS Hi all, after a long absence I'm back... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: (kw) TDF Date: 01 Aug 1999 11:10:43 +1000 Hi all, Sorry if this has been covered before. Can someone please either send me the track (version) listing or tell me where some mp3's are so I can have a listen myself? cya, Vladimir # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/