From: Timon Marmex Trzepacz Subject: Re: (kw) V I D E O S in VHS Date: 31 Aug 1999 23:53:32 -0700 97FM wrote: > KRAFTWERKS´s CONCERTS in VHS , (NTSC color system) : > VIDEOS AVAILABLE FOR TRADE. Why don't you digitize them and post them online so we can all see them? -- Timon -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gekn@ebifsol9.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de (Gerd Knochenhauer) Subject: Re:(kw) OT, man or astroman Date: 01 Sep 1999 09:25:38 +0200 No techno, some electronics but mainly fast surf music (I haven't heard the new album but judging from older ones ...) Gerd # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk versus EXPO Date: 01 Sep 1999 10:35:48 +0200 (DFT) > According to the Sueddeutsche Zeitung, the EXPO plans to publish a > CD-ROM, featuring the original Kraftwerk jingle, an extended > version, plus a "virtual flight" over the EXPO area (intended price: > DM 200). > Kraftwerk and their lawyers are trying to prohibit this release, > claiming that the EXPO's rights for the jingle do not include record > releases. Yesterdays Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung had some more details: - The CD/CD-ROM is scheduled for late October. - The extended version runs 18 seconds for each of the six languages. - The CD/CD-ROM will be published under the name "EXPO 2000", not under "Kraftwerk", to avoid legal problems with the group. Kraftwerk will be credited as composers, though. - The EXPO is trying to expand their cooperation with Kraftwerk. - Kraftwerk were irritated about the EXPO online auction of the jingle CD, because the EXPO originally used the name "Kraftwerk-Jingle", which was a violation of their treaty with Kraftwerk. - Kraftwerk's lawyers refused to comment the affair. The article is online at http://www-vgm2.niedersachsen.com/HAZ/LOKA/story29393.html Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JTalbert Subject: (kw) Robots Date: 01 Sep 1999 06:56:29 -0700 >> IMHO Robots "played" live is a sequenced version. Of course the lights >> blinks on the song (I really cannot remember if they are out of synch or >> not), but why should they use a tape (CD?) to play the song if they have all Kling Klang to play it? >But why should they produce a playback version of this song if they >actually play it with Kling-Klang? *They* don't actually play anything for this song. The sequenced data plays The Roibots. Its really not much different from the rest of the concert songs except that they are actually on stage to interact with the sequence as it is playing (adding live parts such as Ralf's keyboard, effect pedal movements, mixing/transposing, etc using the Regalwerk and other controllers, ...) I'm sure if they wanted, they could just press PLAY and leave the *entire* concert on auto-play. Of course, things would be much more static then. Kindest regards, -John // efofex - noise has a new purpose http://efofex.simplenet.com Efofex LIVE! http://efofex.simplenet.com/live1/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) Robots Date: 01 Sep 1999 12:55:30 +0200 (DFT) > >> IMHO Robots "played" live is a sequenced version. Of course the lights > >> blinks on the song (I really cannot remember if they are out of synch or > >> not), but why should they use a tape (CD?) to play the song if they have all Kling Klang to play it? > > >But why should they produce a playback version of this song if they > >actually play it with Kling-Klang? > > *They* don't actually play anything for this song. The sequenced data > plays The Roibots. How do you know that it is sequenced data and not a recording? Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mm@UDel.Edu (Mike Markowski) Subject: (kw) KW photos or art online? Date: 01 Sep 1999 09:32:10 -0400 Hi all, With many thanks to Nummeren, I now have the Warfield concert on audio cd - not mp3. :-) I'd like to use gimp (http://www.gimp.org) to make as snazzy a cd cover as my limited artistic creativity will allow. Can anyone recommend a site with either photos or artwork that would be appropriate (i.e., somehow related to the concert/tour)? Thanks, Mike PS Also, as a hint of things to come, I'll be getting a cd-rw within the next few months and will be happy to make copies of the discs at cost (or trade), as Nummeren did, for anyone interested. I'll post another note about it once I have the drive and have learned how to use it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: Snakefinger (was RE: (kw) Periodical ramblings) Date: 01 Sep 1999 15:28:13 +0200 Jason Polland wrote: > Snakefinger's "Chewing Hides The Sound" LP, which contains "The Model," >was first issued by Ralph Records in 1979. So it still may have been the >first cover version! Cover of the song from Kraftwerk's The Man Machine, The Model was edited as a single in 1980 (tracklist: The Model, Talkin' in the Town). And it appeared on Chewing Hides the Sound. He performed live the track even before Kraftwerk themselves did. > Also, Snakefinger died of a heart attack while on tour in 1987, not a >car accident. Thanks for the info and pardon for the mistake. In 1972, after having spent a couple of years with The Residents in San Francisco, Snakefinger moved back to England, where he formed the band Chilli Willi & The Red Hot Peppers with Martin Stone. They produced two albums, Kings of the Robot Rhythm and Bongos Over Balham. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) V I D E O S in VHS Date: 01 Sep 1999 09:37:38 EDT In a message dated 9/1/99 12:30:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, timon@lanset.com writes: << Why don't you digitize them and post them online so we can all see them? >> Because he wants to make money. Haven't you noticed that he reminds us of these videos every single day? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SRRecords@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Robots Date: 01 Sep 1999 10:36:50 EDT In a message dated 9/1/99 10:53:15 AM, you wrote: <> Very easily and efficiently, they could produce a DAT with some, most, or all of the parts on it. They could send it through a mixer, play a keyboard part along with it, and sing along with it. Would that be in keeping with the "super-innovative" picture that has been made of kraftwerk? Depends. Tape concerts in the 1950's - were they "innovative" for simply putting a tape recorder on a stage? To some people they were. We only speculate that they sit endlessly programming MIDI data for concerts and songs and then load them into a computer sequencer for future "manipulation" because that view corresponds to the ideal that kraftwerk has become - a band that can't be matched in innovation. Other bands have been more innovative technologically and musically. Kraftwerk simply writes very good/interesting pop music and maintains a very interesting and thought-provoking image. That is their strength I think - not the belief that they are masters of synthesis and musical innovation. < Aren't they now? The least static thing about a kraftwerk concert is the film behind them and the blinking lights. They pretty much just stand there and look at each other - but that's one reason why it's interesting - because it is "static." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nowhere000@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Robots Date: 01 Sep 1999 12:02:20 EDT Ralph has stated in an interview during the early 90s that all live performance is generated from a hard drive on stage No tapes Except the *Robots* when they leave the stage. Um ... hope this settles it. IM sure someone here has this interview and will attempt to make corrections to my post by digging up the interview and posting a direct quote perhaps Mr. Zaepke? anyway What kind of head wax is Florian using these days? xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx And for those lucky people who both posses the new book by Flur and can read the language of the robots give us a review and some nice tid bits about the band Thanx Now here # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) Robots Date: 01 Sep 1999 09:44:37 -0700 Now here wrote: >Ralph has stated in an interview during the early 90s that all live >performance is generated from a hard drive on stage No tapes >Except the *Robots* when they leave the stage. Um ... hope this >settles it. IM sure someone here has this interview and will attempt >to make corrections to my post by digging up the interview and >posting a direct quote perhaps Mr. Zaepke? Excerpt form an interview appeared on: http://www.futurenet.com/musiciansnet/Hitech/People/Kraftwerk/kraftwerk.html How do Kraftwerk manage to transfer their music to a live set-up? "It's not pre-recorded, it's in digital storage. There's no tapes, it's all run from computer. Effectively we can change as much as we like, cut off tracks, mute, double... That's what we do - complete access. We can make any track longer, according to the gig. Certain things are written, but certain compositions can have a start point and be totally open-ended, with the programming running into a loop function. It can be however we want it. All the compositions [with the exception of The Robots] are just written as basic sequences." KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JMJ Fanklubb Norge" Subject: (kw) Take a look at this Date: 01 Sep 1999 17:18:47 +0200 Hey, A friend of mine made some music and would like you werkers to listen to = it, and let me know if you detect anything familiar. The URL is = www.mp3.com/djhamstermash=20 Thanks for reading, glenn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk versus EXPO Date: 01 Sep 1999 11:36:16 -0700 Klaus Zaepke wrote: >Kraftwerk and their lawyers are trying to prohibit this release, >claiming that the EXPO's rights for the jingle do not include >record releases. They state that they are worried that such a >record release would collide with the "intended release" of a new >Kraftwerk album. According to Kraftwerk, the EXPO has no right >to publish CD's that use the name "Kraftwerk". Well, I don't know about you guys, but that "intended release of a new album" part, just silenced the skeptic in me... I'd say that they WILL release an album of either brand spanking NEW stuff or a LIVE recording of their last tour by year-end; definitely before June 2000. No "Best of"; "Mix II"; "Re-edition-of-early-psychedelic-stuff" or "The Christmas with the robots" album. In top of that, they WILL appear on the soundtrack of the upcoming Sprockets movie. Anybody wants to bet on that? KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) Robots Date: 01 Sep 1999 12:10:56 -0700 JTalbert wrote: >Of course, things would be much more static then. SRRecords@aol.com wrote: >Aren't they now? The least static thing about a kraftwerk >concert is the film behind them and the blinking lights. They >pretty much just stand there and look at each other - but that's >one reason why it's interesting - because it is "static." Fellow werkers, this what they had to said about them being "static" on stage: Ralf: "We also kind of dance when we perform. It's not that we actually move our bodies but it's this awareness of your whole body. You feel like a dancer" Florian: "Your brain is dancing. The electronics are dancing around in the speakers" I buy that. Want some more? Go to: http://pages.ripco.net/~saxmania/kraft.html KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael LaVella" Subject: (kw) Man or Astro-Man/Kraftwerk connection Date: 01 Sep 1999 01:59:49 PDT Hello everybody, Mike From San Francisco here It's funny that the question of Man Or Astroman? came up, because I'm sitting here proofreading a review of Computer World that the drummer Brian (who goes by Birdstuff) wrote for the new issue of Gearhead, a magazine that I edit/publish. After seeing Kraftwerk at the Warfield here last summer, I decided that a Kraftwerk piece in Gearhead (a mostly punk rock/hot rod/pop culture magazine) was long overdue. So I asked a bunch of writers and musicians that I admired to review their favorite Kraftwerk record, and the results were amazing. Dave Segal and Jason Pettigrew of Alternative Press, well known artist Frank Kozik, John Ginoli of Pansy Division, and the aforementioned Brian of Man Or Astro-Man? are just a few of the people who participated. We've been working on the layout for awhile, I bet even 'ol Ralf and Florian themselves would be proud of it! The magazine "streets" on Sept.22nd if anyone wants to buy one, they can also be mail ordered direct for $7.00 postpaid in the US (each magazine also comes with a 7" split single - this time it's Rocket From The Crypt and The Hellacopters from Sweden) and I guess we could do $10 airmail to Europe, $15 for South America and $20 for the Pacific Rim. If anyone has any questions, I'd be glad to answer them! It may be more fun to compute, but it's also fun to publish! - Mike ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dean" Subject: (kw) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 07:37:11 GMT Date: 01 Sep 1999 22:21:42 -0600 So what place in the charts did the Tour de France re-release make? Mattwerk www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palace/8922/kwlangu.htm ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Wolfgang Fluer on German TV (urgent) Date: 02 Sep 1999 08:03:57 +0000 The German ARD / ZDF "Morgenmagazin" showed just a very brief report (ca. 1 minute) on a presentation Wolfgang Fluer did for his Kraftwerk book at the Internationale Funkausstellung in Berlin yesterday. If anyone is interested: It is possible that the piece is repeated within the next hour. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Wolfgang Fluer on German TV Date: 02 Sep 1999 09:20:15 +0000 I wrote: > The German ARD / ZDF "Morgenmagazin" showed just a very brief > report (ca. 1 minute) on a presentation Wolfgang Fluer did for his > Kraftwerk book at the Internationale Funkausstellung in Berlin > yesterday. > If anyone is interested: It is possible that the piece is repeated > within the next hour. Okay, they didn't repeat it, sorry. Was anybody able to tape it? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Trainspotting Date: 02 Sep 1999 12:55:03 +0100 The new (September) issue of 'The Wire' music magazine has an article "looking for the perfect machine beat". It covers a lot of ground over its three pages, including New Orleans, Bo Diddley, James Brown... Kraftwerk gets a few mentions, the longest being: "Along with the Beach Boys, the Stooges were Kraftwerk's favourite rock group. Indeed, the Stooge's industrial clangour and motor rhythms are at the heart of the German power plant's greatest record, 'Trans-Europe Express'. Like Bo Diddley, Kraftwerk created the end of the century's most enduring rhythms [from the perspective of what, the next century?] by mimicking trains and, later, computers [?]. Where Diddley's guitar was a steam engine moving off in the distance, Kraftwerk's synth lick was the Doppler effect trail left by a French TGV. Sounding more locomotive than any of its competitors, 'Trans Europe Express' is the greatest train song of them all, the final link in the man-machine interface. [huh?]" KB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) The Orb and "Ralf" Date: 02 Sep 1999 11:51:38 +0200 >> I don't know if the track is named after Kraftwerk's Ralf, but I >> think it's pretty safe to assume that the Orb is familiar with >> Kraftwerk's music. > >I once read that Alex Patterson likes KW's early stuff. This seems to be >confirmed as they poped Tanzmusic on the turntable, at the end of a couple >gigs I attended (92/93). Went down very well with the crowd too! The BBC television series chronicling the history of rock, "Dancing In The Street", -aired on US earlier 1996- included a live rendition of Kraftwerk's Autobahn and an interview with The Orb, among others. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: (kw) Thank you Date: 03 Sep 1999 10:49:09 +0200 Hi, thank you everybody helped me for vocoder. Now I'm choosing. bye, Didi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jimmy D. Pedersen" Subject: (kw) New York visit Date: 03 Sep 1999 11:23:44 +0200 Hi everybody Does anybody have some adresses for record shops to visit, while in New York, regarding old/rare Blondie stuff ??? Jimmy =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D WWW : http://www.image.dk/~thejip/ http://home0.inet.tele.dk/bogormen/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Concert Classics review at NME Date: 03 Sep 1999 14:16:44 +0200 Kraftwerk Concert Classics review http://www.nme.com/reviews/reviews/19980101001391reviews.html Here are some excerpts: "According to the press release, this - the first Kraftwerk live album - has been released with the band's full co-operation." (...) "They're not a band who get off on crowd 'vibes', nor are they great improvisers; " Komputer The World Of Tomorrow review http://www.nme.com/reviews/reviews/19980101001028reviews.html Excerpt: "'The World Of Tomorrow' is, in fact, a pedantically accurate evocation of what Kraftwerk were doing 20 years ago, when the digital watch and the Smash Martians marked the cutting edge of technology." If you are unable to access these and would like them e-mailed to you, just let me know. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk on German TV Date: 03 Sep 1999 16:08:48 +0000 Todays edition of the German arts TV magazine "Aspekte" (ZDF) will have a feature on Kraftwerk, titled "Krach bei Kraftwerk" ("Quarrel in Kraftwerk"). The programme runs from 22:15 - 22:45 CET, and will be repeated tomorrow morning, 4:30 - 5:00 CET. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wolfhardt.Wess@t-online.de (Weß) Subject: (kw) KRAFTWERK-Media Center Date: 03 Sep 1999 18:26:06 +0200 Hi ! Can anybody tell me the current URL of the KRAFTWERK Media Center by Peter Liethen, please ! Thanks Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Concert Classics review at NME Date: 03 Sep 1999 09:45:49 -0700 >Kraftwerk Concert Classics review >http://www.nme.com/reviews/reviews/19980101001391reviews.html >Here are some excerpts: >"According to the press release, this - the first Kraftwerk live album - has >been released with the band's full co-operation." (...) "They're not a band >who get off on crowd 'vibes', nor are they great improvisers; " That review was terrible! The author spends the entire article saying the album is shoddy, and goes on to say that pre-TEE works are "of some interest, but to scholors and completists only"! Yeah, their first FIVE albums are only footnotes and curiosities. Uh-huh. The author obviously knows nothing about the band... There's no way "Concert Classics" is official, since most of the song titles are wrong, and the sparse liner notes make reference to "Techno-Pop," which Kraftwerk deny ever existed. However... Thanks for the info, Automat! ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mm@UDel.Edu (Mike Markowski) Subject: Re: (kw) KRAFTWERK-Media Center Date: 03 Sep 1999 13:50:16 -0400 Gubbolf, On Sep 3, 1999, Weß wrote: > Subject: (kw) KRAFTWERK-Media Center > > Can anybody tell me the current URL of the KRAFTWERK Media Center by > Peter Liethen, please ! That would be at http://petenet.dragonfire.net/kw/index.html Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: (kw) URL needed Date: 03 Sep 1999 14:15:25 -0400 There was a website in Germany (it was in German, and had a .de extension on the URL) that had the lyrics to all the Kraftwerk songs. Anyone know what it is / if it still exists? Huggy Bear np: Schaufensterpuppen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) URL needed Date: 03 Sep 1999 11:14:08 -0700 Huggy Bear wrote: There was a website in Germany [...] Anyone know what it is / if it still exists? How about this one? http://www.kraftwerk.mdis.de/ KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) Trainspotting Date: 03 Sep 1999 16:10:03 +0000 Kraftwerk's synth lick was the >Doppler effect trail left by a French TGV. Sounding more locomotive than >any of its competitors, 'Trans Europe Express' is the greatest train song >of them all, the final link in the man-machine interface. [huh?]" > >KB why that has about as much to do with Kraftwerk as the fact that Ewan MacGregor's cousin is in the same cinema class as i am and next week we are watching Metropolis in class. see, Metropolis ties it in with Kraftwerk. Relevance! is that even a word? lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) URL needed Date: 03 Sep 1999 23:00:41 +0000 > There was a website in Germany [...] Anyone know what > it is / if it still exists? > > How about this one? > http://www.kraftwerk.mdis.de/ http://www.cops.uni-sb.de/kristian/kraft/lyrics.htm is better. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: "Concert Classics" (was: Re: (kw) Concert Classics review at NME Date: 03 Sep 1999 23:00:41 +0000 > The author obviously knows nothing about the band... There's no way > "Concert Classics" is official, since most of the song titles are wrong, > and the sparse liner notes make reference to "Techno-Pop," which Kraftwerk > deny ever existed. It appears to be official, though not authorized by the artists. It wouldn't be the only example for an official release with flawed liner notes. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk on German TV Date: 03 Sep 1999 23:00:41 +0000 > Todays edition of the German arts TV magazine "Aspekte" (ZDF) will > have a feature on Kraftwerk, It was a report about Wolfgang Fluer's Kraftwerk book: "Ex drummer destroys cult band myth", including some excerpts from Kraftwerk's 1973 Aspekte TV appearance and a new interview with Wolfgang Fluer. It was mentioned that Kraftwerk are preparing legal steps against Fluer's book. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "MuSiK" Subject: (kw) this sound is from NEW ALBUM ? Date: 04 Sep 1999 14:33:13 +0200 Any of you notice that sound in this page... http://www.kraftwerk.com/robotnik.html is a new version of THE ROBOTS ? May be from their new album ? Anybody knows? MuSiK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Luca Dassi" Subject: R: (kw) Kraftwerk on German TV Date: 04 Sep 1999 11:24:26 +0200 KZ> Todays edition of the German arts TV magazine "Aspekte" (ZDF) will KZ> have a feature on Kraftwerk, KZ> It was a report about Wolfgang Fluer's Kraftwerk book: "Ex drummer KZ> destroys cult band myth", including some excerpts from Kraftwerk's KZ> 1973 Aspekte TV appearance and a new interview with Wolfgang Fluer. Noticeable things about it: 1) Wolfgang was shown carrying around a trolley full of copies of his book and...a traffic cone! 2) He sat for the most part of the interview right in front of the usual "Wolfgang" neon sign. I wonder whether R&F gave him permission to take it away or did he need to enter Kling Klang during non-work hours ;-) and *steal* it? Ciao, *Luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "angelo" Subject: (kw) Tour de France Date: 05 Sep 1999 00:11:25 -0300 Do anyone knows were i'll can find the mp3 from Tour de France? I serched n Tchecs Kraftwerk pages and others but dificult i don't find it! By ... ============================================ //////////ANGELO///////////////////// angelo@urbi.com.br Miguel Angelo C. Praça////// http://www.urbi.com.br/users/angelo \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ICQ: 11606126 /////////////////////// ============================================ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: Re: (kw) this sound is from NEW ALBUM ? Date: 04 Sep 1999 20:19:03 -0600 Please refer to the archives. http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/kw2000.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) EXPO Jingle farce continues Date: 05 Sep 1999 11:21:49 +0000 In consideration of Kraftwerk's threat to start legal proceedings against the EXPO's marketing campaign for the jingle, EXPO arts section manager Tom Stromberg has now admitted that this marketing campaign was not originally planned, it was just improvised as an attempt to calm down the massive public criticism against the jingle and its price of DM 400.000, which apparently struck the EXPO managenemt completely unprepared. The limited CD-/CD-ROM edition of the jingle is still scheduled for autumn, but will not be distributed as a Kraftwerk product, in accordance with the EXPO's treaty with Kraftwerk. Source: Neue Presse, 02.09.1999. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "angelo" Subject: (kw) Is published the New Album??? !!! Date: 05 Sep 1999 16:51:33 -0300 Hi werkers! i visited this site: http://www.cduniverse.com/ And there are many albuns from Kraftwerk. Is there one called NEW! I don't know if it is a new album from Kraftwerk. Do anyone have some information about this thing? Do really the new album is published? By ... ============================================ //////////ANGELO///////////////////// angelo@urbi.com.br Miguel Angelo C. Praça////// http://www.urbi.com.br/users/angelo \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ICQ: 11606126 /////////////////////// ============================================ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "angelo" Subject: (kw) Tour de France again ! Date: 05 Sep 1999 16:53:37 -0300 Do anyone knows if the Tour de France Single is Published in Brazil? ============================================ //////////ANGELO///////////////////// angelo@urbi.com.br Miguel Angelo C. Praça////// http://www.urbi.com.br/users/angelo \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ICQ: 11606126 /////////////////////// ============================================ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Fluer interview Date: 06 Sep 1999 01:38:47 +0000 Todays Express includes a brief interview with Wolfgang Fluer (German language): http://express.de/ddorf/2349.html No new information. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thorsten_H@t-online.de (Thorsten) Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk lookalike Date: 05 Sep 1999 21:32:04 +0200 Hi all, I heard a song of a musicgroup called "Console", wich sounds very much like Kraftwerk. The songs name's "14 Zero Zero" and the albums' name was "Rocket in a Pocket" if I remember it correctly. It runs relatively often in the German Music TV Channel "Viva 2". The song contains robotic synthesizer voices, and had a melody, which was very near to Kraftwerk's style. I don't know if anyone else knows this song/interpret, cause I didn't hear anywhere else about it, neither in radio nor in the internet, maybe it's only a german release. But it's definitely worth looking for it, so I'm going to search for the album in the next days. Have fun, ____ __ __ __ ___ __ _ / /_/ / / /_/ /_ / /_ /| / / / / /_/ / \ _/ / /_ / |/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Fluer interview Date: 06 Sep 1999 01:38:47 +0000 Todays Express includes a brief interview with Wolfgang Fluer (German language): http://express.de/ddorf/2349.html No new information. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Periodical ramblings Date: 05 Sep 1999 22:21:21 -0700 'Amateur View' is an excellent CD. They are certainly not attempting to be Krafterk. Music Press are obviously unversed with To Rococo Rot and Kraftwerk. It is a shame that people do not have proper background information before making such naive judgments. Bill DSP wrote: > > "To Rococo Rot" is the name of the group. Their latest > album is called Amateur view > > > According to the music press, the band Rococo Rock > > have been described as > > Kraftwerk on Technicolor. They make a kind of naif > > pop with catch melodies. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Petter Subject: Re: (kw) Periodical ramblings Date: 06 Sep 1999 00:20:34 -0700 (PDT) No one claimed that they were trying to be Kraftwerk. The journalist was simply trying to describe their sound to the reader by merging together two different known sounds. And the album is good. --- William Talley wrote: > 'Amateur View' is an excellent CD. They are > certainly not attempting to > be Krafterk. Music Press are obviously unversed > with To Rococo Rot and > Kraftwerk. It is a shame that people do not have > proper background > information before making such naive judgments. > > Bill > > > DSP wrote: > > > > "To Rococo Rot" is the name of the group. Their > latest > > album is called Amateur view > > > > > According to the music press, the band Rococo > Rock > > > have been described as > > > Kraftwerk on Technicolor. They make a kind of > naif > > > pop with catch melodies. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Petter Subject: Re: (kw) Periodical ramblings Date: 06 Sep 1999 00:20:34 -0700 (PDT) No one claimed that they were trying to be Kraftwerk. The journalist was simply trying to describe their sound to the reader by merging together two different known sounds. And the album is good. --- William Talley wrote: > 'Amateur View' is an excellent CD. They are > certainly not attempting to > be Krafterk. Music Press are obviously unversed > with To Rococo Rot and > Kraftwerk. It is a shame that people do not have > proper background > information before making such naive judgments. > > Bill > > > DSP wrote: > > > > "To Rococo Rot" is the name of the group. Their > latest > > album is called Amateur view > > > > > According to the music press, the band Rococo > Rock > > > have been described as > > > Kraftwerk on Technicolor. They make a kind of > naif > > > pop with catch melodies. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wolfhardt.Wess@t-online.de (Weß) Subject: (kw) Pictures of Karl Bartos and me Date: 04 Sep 1999 12:43:17 +0200 Hi ! There are two pictures of Karl Bartos and me at the WOM in Cologne, June 18th 1998 http://home.t-online.de/home/wolfhardt.wess/karl.htm Mind two pix are in one .jpg (213k) Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ward" Subject: (kw) Les Mannequins Date: 05 Sep 1999 23:56:42 -0400 Hi I am putting my copy of Showroom Dummies/Les Mannequins up for sale on eBay in case anyone is interested. Go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=158356977 --Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Trainspotting Date: 06 Sep 1999 14:36:25 +0100 At 4:10 pm +0000 3/9/99, 47 wrote: >Kraftwerk's synth lick was the >>Doppler effect trail left by a French TGV. Sounding more locomotive than >>any of its competitors, 'Trans Europe Express' is the greatest train song >>of them all, the final link in the man-machine interface. [huh?]" >> >>KB > >why that has about as much to do with Kraftwerk as the fact that Ewan >MacGregor's cousin is in the same cinema class as i am and next week we are >watching Metropolis in class. see, Metropolis ties it in with Kraftwerk. >Relevance! is that even a word? I certainly wouldn't wish to imply that this stuff is anything other than complete bullshit (hence my parenthetical comments and the subject line). 'The Wire' is a frustrating magazine. Its coverage is second to none, but many of its writers waste time and patience weaving their own fantasies, dropping irrelevant factoids and drawing irrelevant comparisons. I think they must get paid by the word. KB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) Searching "werkers" Date: 06 Sep 1999 18:39:58 -0300 This message is only for my friends: - Rogelio Cavazos Jr. (Texas, USA) - Jan Luitingh (South Africa) - Martin Rundqvist (Sweden) Please, contact me privately, because I lost your electronic address... sorry. Eduardo Monteiro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) Trainspotting Date: 06 Sep 1999 23:31:51 +0000 > >At 4:10 pm +0000 3/9/99, 47 wrote: >>Kraftwerk's synth lick was the >>>Doppler effect trail left by a French TGV. Sounding more locomotive than >>>any of its competitors, 'Trans Europe Express' is the greatest train song >>>of them all, the final link in the man-machine interface. [huh?]" >>> >>>KB >> >>why that has about as much to do with Kraftwerk as the fact that Ewan >>MacGregor's cousin is in the same cinema class as i am and next week we are >>watching Metropolis in class. see, Metropolis ties it in with Kraftwerk. >>Relevance! is that even a word? > KB wrote: >I certainly wouldn't wish to imply that this stuff is anything other than >complete bullshit (hence my parenthetical comments and the subject line). >'The Wire' is a frustrating magazine. Its coverage is second to none, but >many of its writers waste time and patience weaving their own fantasies, >dropping irrelevant factoids and drawing irrelevant comparisons. I think >they must get paid by the word. > >KB i had nothing on you Kevin. i have not had the pleasure(?) of reading this magazine personally, but that ignorant comment did give me a good laugh, so i thought i'd put my two cents in and see if i can drift any further away from Kraftwerk as the topic, and still tie it in on some hardly relevant tangent or idea, such as i am struggling to do now. sorry, lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Trainspotting Date: 07 Sep 1999 18:54:58 +0100 47 wrote: >i thought i'd put my two cents in and see if i can drift any further away >from Kraftwerk as the topic, and still tie it in on some hardly relevant >tangent or idea, such as i am struggling to do now. > >sorry, Please don't be! I certainly didn't take your remarks to be directed against me, and even if they had been, I certainly wouldn't have taken offence! Best Kevin PS WRT the film Metropolis, has anyone here read Thea Von Harbou's novelisation? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Victor Subject: (kw) Concerts Classics... Date: 07 Sep 1999 16:55:54 -0300 Hello, In the album Concert Classics the name of track 4 not Morgenspaziergang - part 2, the really name is Tansmusik...(Ralf &Florian) Does anybody know the true name of the track 3 ? (Morgenspaziergang - part 1) -- ===================================== Victor Miranda vmiranda@urbi.com.br http://www.urbi.com.br/users/vmiranda ===================================== # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Concerts Classics... Date: 07 Sep 1999 13:09:51 -0700 >Hello, >In the album Concert Classics the name of track 4 not Morgenspaziergang >- part 2, >the really name is Tansmusik...(Ralf &Florian) >Does anybody know the true name of the track 3 ? (Morgenspaziergang - >part 1) > I believe the track is "Kling Klang" from the album "Kraftwerk 2". Also, one of the band members (Ralf? Florian?) announces each song title before they perform it, and he says "Kling Klang" right before they are detained by a problem with the drums for a minute. ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Victor Subject: (kw) Concerts Classics... Date: 07 Sep 1999 17:38:25 -0300 > >Hello, > >In the album Concert Classics the name of track 4 not Morgenspaziergang > >- part 2, > >the really name is Tansmusik...(Ralf &Florian) > >Does anybody know the true name of the track 3 ? (Morgenspaziergang - > >part 1) > > > > I believe the track is "Kling Klang" from the album "Kraftwerk 2". > Also, one of the band members (Ralf? Florian?) announces each song title > before they perform it, and he says "Kling Klang" right before they are > detained by a problem with the drums for a minute. > > ---Jason They really announce the title of the music ...but I found what they played very... very... different of "Kling Klang" from the album "Kraftwerk 2". -- ===================================== Victor Miranda vmiranda@urbi.com.br http://www.urbi.com.br/users/vmiranda ===================================== # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Victor ..-.." Subject: (kw) Concerts Classics Date: 07 Sep 1999 09:52:02 EST Hello, In the album Concert Classics the name of track 4 not Morgenspaziergang - part 2, the really name is Tansmusik...(Ralf &Florian) Does anybody know the true name of the track 3 ? (Morgenspaziergang - part 1) Victor Miranda vmiranda@urbi.com.br http://www.urbi.com.br/users/vmiranda ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: (kw) Toy Story II Date: 08 Sep 1999 19:12:08 -0600 Check out the trailer for "Toy Story II". Woody gets dollnapped (a la Sprockets script) There's an amusing scene with four moving/dancing orange roadcones. http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/kw2000.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ward" Subject: (kw) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:41:20 -0400 Date: 08 Sep 1999 19:40:53 -0600 Hi For those interested, I am selling my 12" of Showroom Dummies/Les Mannequins on eBay. If you want it head to http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=158356977 and check it out. It is the full 6:02 version of Les Mannequins and not an edit or anything. Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kraft-Werk@webtv.net Subject: (kw) The Mix ? Date: 08 Sep 1999 23:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Quick question. Does the mix exist on vinyl anywere ??? P.S. I tried a couple of discographies but was not successful. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Fluer / Yamo news Date: 09 Sep 1999 11:12:41 +0200 (DFT) Todays Kieler Nachrichten has a mini review of Wolfgang Fluer's Kraftwerk book: http://www.kn-online.de/htm/aktuell/welt/c-rp_splitter.htm The release of his second Yamo album is apparently now scheduled for next year. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk items FA Date: 09 Sep 1999 13:26:07 +0200 (DFT) I have a few Kraftwerk rarities for sale at Ebay: "Ralf & Florian" 8-Track cartridge (still sealed): http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=158890869 Cool Groove Non Stop Blast Mix EMI 2-LP (including a 5:18" version of "Tour de France"): http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=158886508 Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk items FA Date: 09 Sep 1999 22:06:47 +1000 Klaus, > Cool Groove Non Stop Blast Mix EMI 2-LP (including a 5:18" version of > "Tour de France"): > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=158886508 I have probably heard all other versions of TDF (except the new one), can you please tell me how it differs to the others or where it fades out or......? :-) Vladimir # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: "Cool Groove" version of "Tour de France" (was: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Date: 09 Sep 1999 14:21:16 +0200 (DFT) > > Cool Groove Non Stop Blast Mix EMI 2-LP (including a 5:18" version of > > "Tour de France"): > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=158886508 > > I have probably heard all other versions of TDF (except the new one), > can you please tell me how it differs to the others The most obvious difference is that it is part of a megamix / medley (which is probably the only official, authorized EMI medley that includes a Kraftwerk track, by the way!). The Kraftwerk part of the mix is based on the 1984 remix of "Tour de France". A list of the other artists in this mix can be found at the URL quoted above. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) software vocoder Date: 09 Sep 1999 14:25:02 +0200 Hi, Two weeks ago, someone mentioned a very simple (and free I think) software vocoder for Windows 9X. I saved the message , but I can't find it now. PLease refresh my memory Reply to me privatly . Thanks in advance. Arnaud # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: Re: "Cool Groove" version of "Tour de France" (was: Re: (kw) Date: 09 Sep 1999 22:37:37 +1000 Thanks! But I'll have to pass..... not much of a medley fan.... :-) vt > > > Cool Groove Non Stop Blast Mix EMI 2-LP (including a 5:18" version of > > > "Tour de France"): > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=158886508 > > > > I have probably heard all other versions of TDF (except the new one), > > can you please tell me how it differs to the others > > The most obvious difference is that it is part of a megamix / medley > (which is probably the only official, authorized EMI medley that includes > a Kraftwerk track, by the way!). The Kraftwerk part of the mix is based on > the 1984 remix of "Tour de France". > A list of the other artists in this mix can be found at the URL quoted > above. Vladimir # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Metropolis (was RE: Trainspotting) Date: 09 Sep 1999 13:19:32 +0200 Kevin Busby wrote: >PS WRT the film Metropolis, has anyone here read Thea Von Harbou's >novelisation? "Which the men exahust themselves so quickly before the machines, Freder, does not prove the cruelty of the machine, but the deficiency of the human material. Man is the product of the change, Freder. A definitive being, for ever. If he is underformed he cannot be given back to the smelting furnace. It is necessary to use him just as he is. And it has been statistically proved that the capacity of the nonintellectual worker decreased from month to month". "To the compass of music, the stars of the skies initiated their solemn and marvellous dance. The roar of notes dissolved the room into the void. (...) Shaken up to the centre itself, the old earth woke up of a dream. The torrents were dried, the mountains crumbled. From their torn entrails the fire exploded. The Earth burned yet what there was on it. The waves of the sea became fire waves. The organ burned, a blazed torch of music. The Earth, the sea and the organ from which the hymn arose, crackled and they became ashes." Thea Von Harbou. Ich Moechte ein Automat. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Lopez Van dam Subject: Re: (kw) The Mix ? Date: 09 Sep 1999 10:21:58 -0300 (ART) > Quick question. Does the mix exist on vinyl anywere ??? > > P.S. I tried a couple of discographies but was not successful. > I think it is. I am sure I saw it once ten years ago. And "Die Roboter -91" maxi single was released in vynil also. (I have one) Laura # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wolfhardt.Wess@t-online.de (Weß) Subject: Re: (kw) The Mix ? Date: 09 Sep 1999 17:03:19 +0200 Well, I think so. I have one. (2LP): Electrola 1C 164-7 96650 1 Gubbolf > Quick question. Does the mix exist on vinyl anywere ??? > > P.S. I tried a couple of discographies but was not successful. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) The Mix ? Date: 09 Sep 1999 08:37:36 -0700 Kraft-Werk@webtv.net wrote: >Quick question. Does the mix exist on vinyl anywere ??? Try here (is the address of a vinyl finder on the net): http://www.aonerecordfinders.com/request_gemm.html Just fill in your request online and they'll be glad to search their inventory for you. Their selection consists of mostly older, pre-1980 material, but you'll never know until you try. Good luck. KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HigbyHogan@aol.com Subject: (kw) On-Line Speech Synthesis Date: 09 Sep 1999 13:50:18 EDT A member requested info on a speech synthesizer... it's at http://www.elantts.com/indemo.htm . The demo allows you to enter a paragraph at a time, using several voices in numerous languages. You can also control the speed and pitch of the voice. HH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Toy Story II Date: 09 Sep 1999 11:25:19 -0700 fxcordero wrote: >Check out the trailer for "Toy Story II". Woody gets dollnapped >(a la Sprockets script) There's an amusing scene with four >moving/dancing orange roadcones. If interested, you can download the trailer @: http://disney.go.com/DisneyPictures/toystory2/index.html KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fxcordero@mail.cybermesa.com Subject: (kw) Mysterious Road Cone Sighting Date: 09 Sep 1999 15:51:21 GMT Go to: http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/roadcone.html for Toy Story II roadcone sighting. "Speak and Spell" will also make a return to Toy Story II. np: Xpander-Sasha # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Finarvas Subject: Re: (kw) On-Line Speech Synthesis Date: 10 Sep 1999 08:35:32 +0200 HigbyHogan@aol.com wrote: > A member requested info on a speech synthesizer... it's at HREF="http://www.elantts.com/indemo.htm">http://www.elantts.com/indemo.htm > . The demo allows you to enter a paragraph at a time, using several voices > in numerous languages. You can also control the speed and pitch of the voice. > HH > Methinks this one is better. It's Bell Laboratories text-to speech. http://www.bell-labs.com/project/tts/voices-java.html /Finarvas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric.Schader@gambro.com Subject: RE: (kw) Toy Story II Date: 10 Sep 1999 08:47:05 +0200 I dont know why, but I don't seem to be able to download it. I've tried several times now. If someone has downloaded it, could that someone make me a very happy man and mail it to me? Thanks in advance Kindest regards Eric > fxcordero wrote: > >Check out the trailer for "Toy Story II". Woody gets dollnapped > >(a la Sprockets script) There's an amusing scene with four > >moving/dancing orange roadcones. > > If interested, you can download the trailer @: > http://disney.go.com/DisneyPictures/toystory2/index.html > KW4EVER! > Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk on German TV Date: 10 Sep 1999 11:12:39 +0200 (DFT) There's a chance that the German WDR shows some Kraftwerk archive footage on Tuesday, October 12th: http://www.wdr.de/tv/pop2000/folge5.html Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peder Livijn" Subject: (kw) KW in Aftonbladet Date: 10 Sep 1999 00:42:39 PDT Hi I just found a KW-article in the Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet, go check = it=20 out at http://www.aftonbladet.se/puls/9909/10/kraftwerk.html The article is in Swedish (but, hey! it isn=B4t that different from germa= n ;-) /Peder ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MANINGLASS@aol.com Subject: (kw) "der robotmix" Date: 10 Sep 1999 19:55:22 EDT greetings...I just happened upon a cd "der robotmix".....it is a cd of Kraftwerk remixes....any info on who did the remix????? thanks...maninglass # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darren Barwise" Subject: (kw) FS: Kraftwerk items (UK only) Date: 11 Sep 1999 09:56:43 +0100 I have the following Kraftwerk items for sale: LP's Exceller 8 - 1975 Radio-Activity - 1975 Trans-Europe Express - 1977 The Man Machine - 1978 Computer World - 1981 Computerwelt (Computer World German Version) - 1981 Autobahn (Reissue) - 1985 Electric Cafe - 1986 The Mix - 1991 12" Singles Neonlights/Trans Europe Express/The Model (Luminous Vinyl) - 1978 The Model/Computer World - 1981 Showroom Dummies/Numbers/Pocket Calculator - 1981 Tour de France - 1983 Tour de France - (Remix) - 1983 Musique Non Stop/Musique Non Stop (7" version) - 1986 7" Singles Kometenmelodie 2/ Vom Himmel Hoch - 1974 Pocket Calculator/Dentaku - 1981 CD Singles Radioactivity - 1991 The Robots -1991 On the whole the records are in a good condition, Computer World being slightly crackly due to amount of playing it's had. Record covers suffer marks from general wear and tear, apart from Electric cafe which has a slight split on the top edge of the cover. If interested please email me with offer's or for more details. Only enquiries from the UK please. Darren # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 Date: 05 Sep 1999 09:44:42 +0100 Are kraftwerk actually performing at this or have they just supplied a jingle? Do they ahve any gigs lined up? -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J.Garcia" Subject: (kw) stuff for trade Date: 11 Sep 1999 19:59:24 +0200 If you're interested in collectable Kraftwerk records and memorabilia, please have a look at: http://personal5.iddeo.es/ret007en/personal/kwtrade.htm I prefer to swap for other Kraftwerk records. Jose Garcia jgc@retemail.es # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) KRAFT`s Clips in PAL (for europeans only) Date: 11 Sep 1999 15:58:05 -0300 Hi. This message is only for the europeans "werkers", because I have a videotape recorded in PAL color system (compatible with your VCRs) The VT includes the following clips: - Das Model - Radioactivity - Tour De France - Antenna - Der Telefon Anruf - Musique Non Stop - Neonlicht - The Robots (1978) - Taschenrechner Great quality. I have, too, a videotape recorded in PAL - G (germany color system) (clips and Kraftwerk`s concert) I DON´T WANT MONEY. (Ok, Mr. Ultravox ??) In this case, I accept SWAP by others itens, like CDs. Offers ??? Cheers Eduardo Monteiro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) Searching Rogelio Date: 13 Sep 1999 18:30:39 -0300 Hi. This message is for ROGELIO CAVAZOS Jr. (USA) only. Please, my friend , contact me privately, because I lost your electronic address. sorry Thanks Eduardo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JTalbert Subject: re: (kw) The Mix ? Date: 13 Sep 1999 18:11:01 -0700 > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 23:31:22 -0700 (PDT) > From: Kraft-Werk@webtv.net > Subject: (kw) The Mix ? > > Quick question. Does the mix exist on vinyl anywere ??? > > P.S. I tried a couple of discographies but was not successful. The Mix was available on vinyl (2 LP). I purchased a copy as an import about 4 years ago. To the best of my knowledge, it was only released in German. But to my ears, I find the vinyl a very sweet listening experience over the CD. Kindest regards, -John // efofex - noise has a new purpose http://www.efofex.net Is this the future of stress management? http://www.efofex.net/stress.html Coming soon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J.Garcia" Subject: (kw) the mix Date: 14 Sep 1999 00:28:43 +0200 > From: Kraft-Werk@webtv.net > Subject: (kw) The Mix ? > > Quick question. Does the mix exist on vinyl anywere ??? > Check out the International Kraftwerk Discography: http://home.t-online.de/home/Armin.Poecker/discog.htm There are at least 4 different releases of this album on vinyl. Jose Garcia jgc@retemail.es # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97FM" Subject: (kw) Clips of KRAFTWERK Date: 10 Sep 1999 14:33:06 -0300 Hi. This message is only for the europeans "werkers", because I have a videotape recorded in PAL color system (compatible with your VCRs) The VT includes the following clips: - Das Model - Radioactivity - Tour De France - Antenna - Der Telefon Anruf - Musique Non Stop - Neonlicht - The Robots (1978) - Taschenrechner =20 Great quality. I have, too, a videotape recorded in PAL - G (germany color system) (clips and Kraftwerk`s concert) I DON=B4T WANT MONEY. (Ok, Mr. Ultravox ??) In this case, I accept SWAP by others itens, like CDs. Offers ??? Cheers Eduardo Monteiro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) autobahn fanzine - NO Kraftwerk relation Date: 12 Sep 1999 12:59:15 +0200 yesterday I was at a roman record shop with canadian fellow listie d... who come to visit Europe. really nice to meet him. I spotted a fanzine called Autobahn. absolutely NO Kraftwerk, electronic music, german music content: it's a fanzine about italian ska and mod scene. why this name I don't know... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "depeche" <_depeche_@msn.com> Subject: (kw) EXPO 2000 CDs! Date: 13 Sep 1999 13:01:21 -0700 Whomever said that EXPO 2000 was not sending out Jingle CD's is wrong! I sent them an email saying "Please send me a press release and Jingle CD, We require them for a future show." and lo-and behold I received one in the mail today! Give it a shot, YOU may get one Too! BTW what color are the CD's everyone else has received? Andrew _depeche_@msn.com http://come.to/andrewwalk Fax# (520) 752-7843 ICQ# 11490225 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADivakaran@aol.com Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #336 Date: 13 Sep 1999 18:05:15 EDT re: speech synthesis program, check out the following (excellent and great fun) freeware program for windows: http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/audio.htm and download the program "SayIt". i just found out about it from Keyboard magazine (US) - very KWish! ashok # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ward" Subject: (kw) EXPOSISTION 2000 Date: 14 Sep 1999 15:39:21 -0400 Hi What is the e-mail address for the Expo 2000 CD request? --Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) a new KW CD Date: 16 Sep 1999 01:32:25 +0000 does anyone have this? what are the KW tracks? are they any good? we had no reviews of this new cd on the list. Enter The Mix - Depeche Mode vs. Kraftwerk / Various Artists SPV DROP009 Germany 07/19/99 - Full length CD ___ European Import - This release features various Techno and Trance acts covering their favourite Depeche Mode and Kraftwerk tracks - Artists include Filter Selection, Exis 01, Audio Science, Martin O and many more / Various AB-CD price $29.97 didn't somebody say that Audio Science is Kraftwelt, so here they are making another KW cover under an old name again. lenny g p.s. can someone please e-mail me the official Bartos (Electric Music) and Flur (Yamo) web site URL's. i can't seem to find them. thanks. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) Off sync blinkings Date: 16 Sep 1999 9:55:57 +0200 Klaus Zaepke Wrote: On the other hand, there has been debate on this list about how much of this=20= blinking is a fake=2E Some people were noting that the lights were sometimes=20= out of sync with the music=2E=2E=2E=20= Yes, but on what kind of device? This could be the blinking of an LFO,=20= a Flanger or some other effect then cotrolled by the Boyz pedals or what do=20= you think? Regards/Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: "Enter the Mix" (was: Re: (kw) a new KW CD) Date: 16 Sep 1999 10:13:49 +0000 > does anyone have this? what are the KW tracks? are they any good? we had > no reviews of this new cd on the list. > > Enter The Mix - Depeche Mode vs. Kraftwerk / Various Artists > SPV DROP009 Germany This is a compilation of tracks from Cleopatras Depeche Mode and Kraftwerk "tribute albums". Nothing new. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Johnn=20Andersson?= Subject: Re: (kw) Tour de France Date: 16 Sep 1999 10:36:11 +0200 (CEST) --- angelo wrote: > > Do anyone knows were i'll can find the mp3 from Tour > de France? > > I serched n Tchecs Kraftwerk pages and others but > dificult i don't find it! > > By ... > Thats right, but incorrect spelled, it's BUY: Buy the record, it's out on CD!!! Support Kraftwerk!!! /Johnn _____________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Få en gratis @yahoo.se-adress på http://mail.yahoo.se # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Off sync blinkings Date: 16 Sep 1999 10:32:39 +0000 > > On the other hand, there has been debate on this list about how > > much of this blinking is a fake. Some people were noting that the > > lights were sometimes out of sync with the music... > > Yes, but on what kind of device? I'm not an expert for equipment, but I remember from past discussions that one of the "suspicious" devices was the Doepfer Schaltwerk, which was blinking even in the pauses during some of the songs. (But I'm just quoting other people's opinions here, I don't know enough about the Schaltwerk to judge on my own.) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Fluer book review Date: 16 Sep 1999 10:36:02 +0000 Todays Berliner Morgenpost has a review of Wolfgang Fluer's Kraftwerk book (German language): http://www.berliner-morgenpost.de/bin/bm/e?u=/bm/inhalt/heute/feuillet on/story10.html Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: RE: (kw) Fluer book review Date: 16 Sep 1999 10:45:14 +0200 Klaus Zaepke Wrote: Todays Berliner Morgenpost has a review of Wolfgang Fluer's Kraftwerk book=20= (German language): http://www=2Eberliner-morgenpost=2Ede/bin/bm/e?u=3D/bm/inhalt/heute/feuillet on/story10=2Ehtml Klaus Zaepke This was a nice one: =2E=2E=2EF=FChrungsstil von Ralf Schneider und Florian H=FCtter, die sich =FCber das Ex-Mitglied Karl Bartos (jetzt Electric Music) und ihn in Interviews nicht selten abf=E4llig=20= /JOhan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Luque10@aol.com Subject: (kw) Kraftwer fan at a loss Date: 16 Sep 1999 08:28:13 EDT About 10 years ago, in Brazil, a talk show called "Clo para os intimos" with the famous Brazilian designer Clodovil, had one of krakwerk's songs in the opening of this afternoon show. I think the song is one of Kraftwerk's best but I simply do not know it's title and, since I have heard all songs published in full-length albums in the USA. I am hoping someone will be able to help me discover more about this song. What's it's title? when was it published? Is it available? I thank you in advance, best regards, Luke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Petter Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwer fan at a loss Date: 16 Sep 1999 05:52:05 -0700 (PDT) The description is a bit vague for us who weren't in Brazil at that time, but the logical answer to your question still seems to be "Tour de France", a song from 1983 that never made it onto an album. It has just recently been made avaliable again thru a german cds reprint. --- Luque10@aol.com wrote: > About 10 years ago, in Brazil, a talk show called "Clo para os intimos" with the famous Brazilian designer Clodovil, had one ofkrakwerk's songs in the opening of this afternoon show. What's it's title? when was it published? Is it available? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) TV using KW songs (was: Kraftwer fan at a loss) Date: 16 Sep 1999 10:02:25 -0700 Luke wrote: >About 10 years ago, in Brazil, a talk show called "Clo para os intimos" >with the famous Brazilian designer Clodovil, had one of krakwerk's >songs in the opening of this afternoon show. I think the song is one... What I'm about to write has nothing to do with this, but for some reason what Luke wrote, reminded me of a newscast aired in Buenos Aires, Argentina back some 20 years ago that had "Metropolis" as their jingle. The program was called: "60 minutes" (no connection whatsoever with CBS' "60 min"). Goes without saying that my favorite part of that program was its song. I also remember Jarre's "Equinox" and John Miles' "Music" (I used to love that song) being part of a Buenos Aires TV weekly magazine program called: "Monica Presenta". Oh, those good old days... KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Off sync blinkings Date: 16 Sep 1999 10:29:14 -0700 >> > On the other hand, there has been debate on this list about how >> > much of this blinking is a fake. Some people were noting that the >> > lights were sometimes out of sync with the music... >> >> Yes, but on what kind of device? > >I'm not an expert for equipment, but I remember from past discussions >that one of the "suspicious" devices was the Doepfer Schaltwerk, >which was blinking even in the pauses during some of the songs. >(But I'm just quoting other people's opinions here, I don't know >enough about the Schaltwerk to judge on my own.) Blinking lights can correspond to a multitude of functions; they aren't always binary interpretations of "note on/note off". I have midi devices with LEDs that constantly blink just to indicate that there is a connection between it and another decive. Also, we must keep in mind that LED volume meters could be corresponding to one instrument, two instruments, or maybe just the effects channel. ALSO keep in mind that Kraftwerk does live mixing onstage; certain devices may still be playing even though the musicians have taken that element out of the mix! (by fading it out, or whatever) Essentially, it's very silly to presume that ANYBODY except Kraftwerk knows exactly what each device is doing at any given moment! And by the way... When I saw them in Los Angeles in 1998, the lighting was such that I could see shadows of their hands reflected on the ground during "The Model". Unless they went to the ridiculous trouble of memorizing the keystrokes and pretending to play the song, I can assure you that they were performing it live! ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kraft-Werk@webtv.net Subject: (kw) TEE In Movie ? Date: 16 Sep 1999 10:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Has anyone out there seen the new movie " Stigmata " Is it just me or does Frankies bed remind you guys of the TEE ? I think that woud be an awesome kraftwerk type collectable ! The bed has three trains that look just like the ones I see associated with KW . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) Off sync blinkings Date: 16 Sep 1999 19:58:32 +0200 (DFT) > And by the way... When I saw them in Los Angeles in 1998, the lighting > was such that I could see shadows of their hands reflected on the ground > during "The Model". Unless they went to the ridiculous trouble of > memorizing the keystrokes and pretending to play the song, I can assure you > that they were performing it live! It wouldn't be that ridiculous. They were also miming when they performed this song on TV ("Na sowas") in 1982 - which was undoubtedly a playback performance. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Off sync blinkings Date: 16 Sep 1999 11:14:52 -0700 >> And by the way... When I saw them in Los Angeles in 1998, the lighting >> was such that I could see shadows of their hands reflected on the ground >> during "The Model". Unless they went to the ridiculous trouble of >> memorizing the keystrokes and pretending to play the song, I can assure you >> that they were performing it live! > >It wouldn't be that ridiculous. They were also miming when they performed >this song on TV ("Na sowas") in 1982 - which was undoubtedly a playback >performance. TV shows are a different story... They don't want mistakes, so they just play the radio edit and have the band lip-sync it. Television demands a perfect picture, it's very fake. This isn't directly related to Kraftwerk, but you might find it amusing... In the late 60's, Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention were touring and were guests on a variety show. The producer wanted them to lip-sync their song, which was abhorant to Zappa and the band, because it was such a phony thing to do. So after discussing it, they agreed, and they went to the prop department of the tv station. They each got a random object (stuffed animal, serving bowl, lantern, whatever), and when it was time for them to perform, they all just stood there, holding these random objects, performing simple movements over and over, not in time to the music! Oh yeah, and also about Kraftwerk... Their hands were obscured behind their consoles the whole time, it was just luck that a light happened to cast a shadow on the performers' hands. I could see one of them performing the bass line, and another was performing the melody. ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Off sync blinkings Date: 16 Sep 1999 11:14:52 -0700 >> And by the way... When I saw them in Los Angeles in 1998, the lighting >> was such that I could see shadows of their hands reflected on the ground >> during "The Model". Unless they went to the ridiculous trouble of >> memorizing the keystrokes and pretending to play the song, I can assure you >> that they were performing it live! > >It wouldn't be that ridiculous. They were also miming when they performed >this song on TV ("Na sowas") in 1982 - which was undoubtedly a playback >performance. TV shows are a different story... They don't want mistakes, so they just play the radio edit and have the band lip-sync it. Television demands a perfect picture, it's very fake. This isn't directly related to Kraftwerk, but you might find it amusing... In the late 60's, Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention were touring and were guests on a variety show. The producer wanted them to lip-sync their song, which was abhorant to Zappa and the band, because it was such a phony thing to do. So after discussing it, they agreed, and they went to the prop department of the tv station. They each got a random object (stuffed animal, serving bowl, lantern, whatever), and when it was time for them to perform, they all just stood there, holding these random objects, performing simple movements over and over, not in time to the music! Oh yeah, and also about Kraftwerk... Their hands were obscured behind their consoles the whole time, it was just luck that a light happened to cast a shadow on the performers' hands. I could see one of them performing the bass line, and another was performing the melody. ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) Off sync blinkings Date: 16 Sep 1999 21:15:35 +0200 (DFT) > >> during "The Model". Unless they went to the ridiculous trouble of > >> memorizing the keystrokes and pretending to play the song, I can assure you > >> that they were performing it live! > > > >It wouldn't be that ridiculous. They were also miming when they performed > >this song on TV ("Na sowas") in 1982 - which was undoubtedly a playback > >performance. > > TV shows are a different story... They don't want mistakes, so they just > play the radio edit and have the band lip-sync it. Television demands a > perfect picture, it's very fake. But if they can mime at a TV show, they can easily mime during concerts as well. Many bands are suspected to mime during parts of their live shows, the Rolling Stones are a famous example. So I wouldn't call this possibility ridiculous. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) Off sync blinkings Date: 16 Sep 1999 12:41:56 -0700 Klaus Zaepke wrote: >But if they can mime at a TV show, they can easily mime during >concerts as well. Many bands are suspected to mime during parts >of their live shows, the Rolling Stones are a famous example. How about Jarre? I'd say He's NO suspect. The only ones breaking a sweat on his band are the other players, while he tries to be cool striking a pose behind some funny looking keyboards, sunglasses, fireworks and lasers. Tangerine Dream in the other hand wins their money kicking some guitar riffs, and blowing their sax in very small venues and letting their sequencers do the rest. I loved their "no mimes in here" show. KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RamiJ@aol.com Subject: (kw) Visiting Germany Oct 7-13 Date: 16 Sep 1999 15:57:19 EDT Hi gang... I'm hoping someone can tell me where to go what to do to get the most out of my trip to Dusseldorf and Cologne..... first stop is to find Kling Klang Studios.... and hopefully some record shopping I'd love to hear any recommendations anyone might have. -Rami J # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Luque10@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwer fan at a loss Date: 16 Sep 1999 17:23:07 EDT Thanks for your reply, but that's not it. A very close friend played it to me on my answering machine from Vienna. I guess my only hope is to find someone who has seen this show (televised at Rede manchete in Brazil during the mid 80's). By the way, besides the above mentioned show, Brazil has used Kraftwerk's spacelab in one of the government's campaign to get children interested in science and, in an ad on TV, "Hall of Mirrors" was used. Thanks again. Best Regards. Luke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "wardkent" Subject: (kw) Chicago Date: 16 Sep 1999 18:08:54 -0400 Hi Are any list members going to be at the Chicago Celtic Fest over this coming weekend? I will be there to participate in the 1999 Chicago Uilleann Piper's Convention. Contact me off list if anyone is going to be there. --Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Priscila Morsoletto Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwer fan at a loss Date: 17 Sep 1999 00:29:17 -0300 On 16 Sep 99 at 17:23, Luque10@aol.com wrote: >By the way, besides the above mentioned show, Brazil has used Kraftwerk's >spacelab in one of the government's campaign to get children interested in >science and, in an ad on TV, "Hall of Mirrors" was used. Hall of Mirrors was used in a shoe commercial in early 80's named Star Sacs (I don't know if I writed it correctly). Also Home Computer was used in Technos Sky Diver's commercial in mid 80's. Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Priscila Morsoletto Subject: Re: (kw) Off sync blinkings Date: 17 Sep 1999 00:29:17 -0300 On 16 Sep 99 at 19:58, Klaus Zaepke wrote: >It wouldn't be that ridiculous. They were also miming when they performed >this song on TV ("Na sowas") in 1982 - which was undoubtedly a playback >performance. Is quite ridiculous their miming in Mini Calcolatore (or whatever is the name of Pocket Calculator in italian version) at a program from RAI in 81 (or maybe 82). Ralf just BAD faking he is singing. :-) >But if they can mime at a TV show, they can easily mime during concerts as >well. Many bands are suspected to mime during parts of their live shows, >the Rolling Stones are a famous example. So I wouldn't call this >possibility ridiculous. Yeah that's true. Like Spice Girls or even Backstreet Boys - I'm tired of their specials in MTV Brazil (sigh), all what I see was PLAYBACK. Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Armin.Poecker@t-online.de (Armin Poecker) Subject: (kw) The Mix on vinyl Date: 15 Sep 1999 20:02:20 +0200 > > Quick question. Does the mix exist on vinyl anywere ??? > > > > P.S. I tried a couple of discographies but was not successful. Then you haven't tried either mine (http://home.t-online.de/home/0625138143/discog.htm) or Lazlo's. The Mix was released on vinyl in (as far as I know): Germany (german and english version pressings) UK Spain Italy Australia New Zealand USA (no fold-out cover) Brazil Colombia (one LP only) Yugoslavia > I think it is. I am sure I saw it once ten years ago. And "Die Roboter > - -91" maxi single was released in vynil also. (I have one) > Laura Well, probably more like eight years ago as The Mix was released in 1991. Bye, Gunther # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (kw) Art of Noise Date: 15 Sep 1999 19:52:21 PDT I thought some of you would be interested in this (you don't even know how excited this makes me ! :-) A R T O F N O I S E -- L I V E 1 9 9 9 (Their second, long overdue tour in 13 years !) 10/07/99 San Francisco CA @ Slim's 10/09/99 Indio CA @ Coachella Valley Music Fest 10/11/99 Chicago IL @ Metro / Smart Bar 10/12/99 New York NY @ Irving Plaza 10/13/99 Boston MA @ Paradise Rock Club Hopefully there are more dates to come. Tickets for the Chicago show are already on sale from Ticket Bastard (sic) for $15 (plus service charge). I also urge that you check out the Coachella Music Festival in CA (I will definitely be there if I haven't left for BMT already) . Just one thing for the Orbital list to get you guys to go : AUTECHRE -- LIVE DJ SET (I never thought I would contribute to your madness, but there you go ! Hope you fuckers revel in it ! ;-P ) The "Detroit Three" will also be there along with Underworld, DJ Shadow, Raymond Roker, Rage Against The Machine, Tool, Beck, and a shitload of others. Peace and God Bless. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nicolau Centola" Subject: (kw) KW in Brazilian TV Date: 16 Sep 1999 15:51:38 PDT Hi Luke, I really cannot remember the song on the beggining of this TV show. I live in Brazil, and only can remember the song Homecomputer as soundtrack of soap opera Brilhante (Diamond) in 1981. Definitely it's not Tour de France on Clodovil show. Do you have any other info? Are you sure it's from Kraftwerk? Of course KW music was used a lot of times in propaganda here... The earliest I can remember is a brick plant using Kometenmelodie 2 in TV propaganda. peace Nicolau http://members.xoom.com/kraftworld Thanks for your reply, but that's not it. A very close friend played it to me on my answering machine from Vienna. I guess my only hope is to find someone who has seen this show (televised at Rede manchete in Brazil during the mid 80's).By the way, besides the above mentioned show, Brazil has used Kraftwerk's spacelab in one of the government's campaign to get children interested in science and, in an ad on TV, "Hall of Mirrors" was used. Thanks again. Best Regards. Luke ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nicolau Centola" Subject: (kw) The Mix LP Date: 16 Sep 1999 15:42:31 PDT The Mix was released in Brazil as a 2LP set. AFAIK it was released in UK too... any info about USA? Nicolau http://members.xoom.com/kraftworld >Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 23:31:22 -0700 (PDT)> From: Kraft-Werk@webtv.net >Subject: (kw) The Mix ?> >Quick question. Does the mix exist on vinyl anywere ???> >P.S. I tried a couple of discographies but was not successful. The Mix was available on vinyl (2 LP). I purchased a copy as an import about 4 years ago. To the best of my knowledge, it was only released in German. But to my ears, I find the vinyl a very sweet listening experience over the CD.Kindest regards,- -John ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JTalbert Subject: Re: (kw) Off sync blinkings Date: 17 Sep 1999 07:49:54 -0700 >I'm not an expert for equipment, but I remember from past discussions >that one of the "suspicious" devices was the Doepfer Schaltwerk, >which was blinking even in the pauses during some of the songs. >(But I'm just quoting other people's opinions here, I don't know >enough about the Schaltwerk to judge on my own.) > I do have a close friend that owns a Shaltwerk and I can find out from him what modes could enable the Regalwerk to blink when no music is playing (my guess is it is simply display sequenced lighting at the rate of the global MIDI clock). Although I can say it is quite normal for the LEDs on various pieces of electronic equipment to blink out-of-sync and when not being played. I have a couple of Doepfer 404 synths which have non-syncable LFO rates. The lights blink to the current LFO speeds regardless of whether the instrument is receiving data. Same behavior with the old Roland MC-202 synth and the Lexicon effects module in certain modes. The receipt of MIDI program changes (switching to different sound settings) can cause the front panel lights on some equipment to suddenly "change" as well. Not really unusual behavior. From my vantage point at the Detroit show (with binoculars), the Shaltwerk was indeed being used by Fritz quite extensively throughout the concert. Actually, he appeared to be doing a great deal of the work. Nothing fake about it. Kindest regards, -John // efofex - noise has a new purpose http://www.efofex.net Is this the future of stress management? http://www.efofex.net/stress.html Coming (incredibly) soon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JTalbert Subject: Re: (kw) Off sync blinkings Date: 17 Sep 1999 08:19:00 -0700 > >It wouldn't be that ridiculous. They were also miming when they performed > >this song on TV ("Na sowas") in 1982 - which was undoubtedly a playback > >performance. > > TV shows are a different story... They don't want mistakes, so they just > play the radio edit and have the band lip-sync it. Television demands a > perfect picture, it's very fake. > But if they can mime at a TV show, they can easily mime during concerts as > well. Many bands are suspected to mime during parts of their live shows, > the Rolling Stones are a famous example. So I wouldn't call this > possibility ridiculous. Sure, its not impossible. Although I haven't scrutinized any Rolling Stone performances, I'm rather sure that practically any experienced musician would be able to tell if they were miming as well. Now TV shows are truly a completely different issue. To mime on television is a very common practice (no matter how deplorable) not only due to the possibility of mistakes but also due to technical and scheduling challenges in reproducing a proper mix using live instruments. But during the tour, Kraftwerk were not miming The Model or any other song. I've heard and seen the comical mistakes as well as the magnificent dynamic changes in the musical phrasing & timbres that make up Kraftwerk's signature sound. The Kraftwerk performance is about as live as many other electronics based performance. Simply lots of midi streams triggering lots of sounds controlled live at will by the musicians. Why would that be so surprising? Kindest regards, -John // efofex - noise has a new purpose http://www.efofex.net Is this the future of stress management? http://www.efofex.net/stress.html Coming (incredibly) soon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) Off sync blinkings Date: 17 Sep 1999 10:35:10 +0000 Priscila Morsoletto wrote: >Like Spice Girls or even Backstreet Boys - I'm tired of their >specials in MTV Brazil (sigh), all what I see was PLAYBACK. > >Cheers, >Priscila. you are right, i am tired of their specials on American MTV! why don't they go back to the planet they came from and don't bother us anymore! god damn alien pop super groups! they have to capitalize all over the universe and our own local techni acts, including Kraftwerk, have to suffer and indure underground fan base because all the money goes to the interstellar pop stars. lenny g b.s. what the hell are these "off sync blinkings" you people are talking about? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk versus Fluer Date: 17 Sep 1999 23:27:46 +0000 Todays TAZ contains a detailed review of Wolfgang Fluer's Kraftwerk book, with some new information: a) Kraftwerk and their lawyers demand to remove certain parts from the book (photos and even complete chapters). They claim that these parts violate Kraftwerk's reputation / personality. b) Wolfgang Fluer thinks that Ralf Huetter and Florian Schneider cheated him with their patent for the electronic drumpad design, which was apparently actually his invention / development. He wasn't even aware that they've got it patented, until he learned about this patent some days ago. The article (German language) is online at http://www.taz.de/tpl/1999/09/17.nf/text?Tname=a0073&list=TAZ_ku&idx=0 Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Off sync blinkings Date: 17 Sep 1999 23:27:46 +0000 > But during the tour, Kraftwerk were not miming The Model or any other > song. What makes you so sure that *nothing* is mimed? > I've heard and seen the comical mistakes Some of these mistakes might be intentional - Henning Schmitz's infamous wrong key during "Radioactivity", for example. This "mistake" appears with such a regularity in their concerts that one could suspect that it is actually part of the show... They may use it as a trick to intensify the "live" feeling? JBV once suggested that they may have a certain selection of pre-recorded "mistakes" available for that purpose. It wouldn't totally surprise me if he was right... Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Bieler Subject: (kw) KW1&2 Picture Discs Date: 17 Sep 1999 23:32:06 +0200 (CEST) Hello everybody! This is my first posting to this list in a long time, but I've already been around two years ago. Special greetings go to John Talbert . There are picture discs of KW1 & KW2 listed in the int. discog, which I'm glad to own copies of (the boots, not the discog ;-), so now I wonder: Are they anything like VALUABLE? Any suggestions? Unless they are really valuable, they will end up as clocks on my wall one day.. ;-) Also, from listening to them once (good sound quality, speaking of picture discs), I remember that one song had an intro that is not included on my CD (Germanofon) edition. Anyone else noticed this? Is this bit included on one of the other CD boots? This part is very quiet, so the bootlegger might have omitted it on purpose if there was two much noise on his/her vinyl copy. The song might have been 'Klingklang', but this is mere suspicion as I'm writing from old memories. - I can check this if anyone's interested. So far, - Thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk versus Fluer Date: 17 Sep 1999 17:03:17 -0700 Klaus Zaepke wrote: >Todays TAZ contains a detailed review of Wolfgang Fluer's >Kraftwerk book, with some new information... Killer article. Thanks Klaus >a) Kraftwerk and their lawyers demand to remove certain parts >from the book (photos and even complete chapters). They claim >that these parts violate Kraftwerk's reputation / personality. Ralf and Florian: Lets clear one thing up, shall we? That book might violate your reputation / personality, but you guys aren't helping making it any better. If you are so worried about *personality*, why have a skateboard for sale? why record an effortless jingle? why have such a weak and dated site on the net? Believe me, neither Wolfgang's book or one of the above will stop me from buying your new record. Please let the MUSIC speak in defense of your reputation / personality. Don't be so afraid. It's about time. KW's MUSIC 4 EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rochow@pixelmagic.com Subject: Re:(kw) Kraftwerk versus Fluer Date: 17 Sep 1999 21:27:01 -0400 >a) Kraftwerk and their lawyers demand to remove certain parts from >the book (photos and even complete chapters). They claim that these >parts violate Kraftwerk's reputation / personality. Does there seem to be any danger that the book might soon become unavailable (at least in its original form) due to any legal proceedings? (I'm having it bought for me in G., and haven't been informed of success yet.) Apart from a reviewer's saying that much of the quality of the writing would be lost in translation - are there plans for an English translated edition? Danke im Voraus, -gbr # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Re: Fluer interview Date: 18 Sep 1999 21:17:04 +0000 http://www.docrock.de/storys/kraftwerk/index.htm has a new interview with Wolfgang Fluer (in German). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re:(kw) Kraftwerk versus Fluer Date: 18 Sep 1999 21:17:04 +0000 > >a) Kraftwerk and their lawyers demand to remove certain parts from > >the book (photos and even complete chapters). They claim that these > >parts violate Kraftwerk's reputation / personality. > > Does there seem to be any danger that the book might soon become > unavailable (at least in its original form) due to any legal > proceedings? Yes, that's certainly a possibility, though I guess that it is unlikely that they'll succeed (assuming that all facts in the book are true and that no copyrights were violated, of course). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: richard.wojtak@which.net Subject: (kw) concert classics / tour de france Date: 17 Sep 1999 16:58:47 +0100 has anyone heard the CONCERT CLASSICS cd? is the quality good and is it worth getting (i've been putting off buying it as it only seems to have tracks from autobahn on it. not a bad thing I suppose but is the quality good?) also i'm glad tour de france has been released on cd, ive had the vinyl version since 1982 but haven't been able to play it for years because of no record player. one of their best records (especially if you like cycling, listening to it on headphones while cycling a long way is an unbelievable experience). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re: (kw) concert classics / tour de france Date: 19 Sep 1999 06:11:03 +0200 richard.wojtak@which.net schreibt: > >has anyone heard the CONCERT CLASSICS cd? is the quality good and is it >worth getting (i've been putting off buying it as it only seems to have >tracks from autobahn on it. not a bad thing I suppose but is the quality >good?) Good? It's the best live-recording you can hear of this decade! > >also i'm glad tour de france has been released on cd, ive had the vinyl >version since 1982 but haven't been able to play it for years because of >no record player. one of their best records (especially if you like >cycling, listening to it on headphones while cycling a long way is an >unbelievable experience). > I know this experience :-) I've enjoyd it more than 100-times on my bike. Regards ---josef > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Kraftwerk fan at a loss Date: 19 Sep 1999 10:07:14 +0200 >By the way, besides the above mentioned show, Brazil has used Kraftwerk's >spacelab in one of the government's campaign to get children interested in >science and, in an ad on TV, "Hall of Mirrors" was used. >Hall of Mirrors was used in a shoe commercial in early 80's named Star Sacs >(I don't know if I writed it correctly). Also Home Computer was used in >Technos Sky Diver's commercial in mid 80's. "Radioactivity" and "Trans-Europe Express" were used during several years in 70s and 80s as an intro for the news bulletin at Radio1 RNE (Spanish National Radio). DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "depeche" Subject: (kw) I have a spare TDF reissue Date: 19 Sep 1999 03:23:08 -0700 If you are interested, drop me a line. I want around $7 for it (plus the shipping) Andrew d-mode@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/d-mode Fax# (520) 752-7843 ICQ# 11490225 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Koelner Stadt-Anzeiger on Fluer Date: 19 Sep 1999 17:02:57 +0000 Yesterdays Koelner Stadt-Anzeiger had a review of Wolfgang Fluer's Kraftwerk book (in German): http://www.ksta.de/vermischtes/panorama/modzeit/5405.html Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Bieler Subject: (kw) Megaherz (was: KW1&2 Picture Discs) Date: 20 Sep 1999 06:37:04 +0200 (CEST) > Also, from listening to them once (good sound quality, speaking of > picture discs), I remember that one song had an intro that is not > included on my CD (Germanofon) edition. Anyone else noticed this? Is > this bit included on one of the other CD boots? This part is very > quiet, so the bootlegger might have omitted it on purpose if there was > too much noise on his/her vinyl copy. I went and looked for that bit. It's on 'Megaherz'. The picture disc has a very faint 'click' sound in the beginning that is not on my Germanofon CD edition. I wonder if this belongs to the recording or if it's a mistake by the bootlegger, who also spoiled the begining of 'Ruckzuck' (on the pd). Anyone with an original vinyl copy willing to check this? T. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "christian mueller" Subject: (kw) warfield mp3z ! Date: 20 Sep 1999 12:49:03 +0200 can anybody help me? i=B4m searching for the warfield mp3z! where can i find it? greetings christian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) off-topic Quasimidi Sirius for sale Date: 20 Sep 1999 14:52:50 +0200 Excuse me, this is almost off-topic. If anybody is interested, my brother sells his Vocoder/Synthesizer Quasimidi Sirius. If you're interested, please email me for more details. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Lopez Van dam Subject: Re: (kw) TV using KW songs (was: Kraftwer fan at a loss) Date: 20 Sep 1999 11:40:36 -0300 (ART) Yes, I remember those too! although I'm not so old ;) > What I'm about to write has nothing to do with this, but for some reason > what Luke wrote, reminded me of a newscast aired in Buenos Aires, Argentina > back some 20 years ago that had "Metropolis" as their jingle. The program > was called: "60 minutes" (no connection whatsoever with CBS' "60 min"). Goes > without saying that my favorite part of that program was its song. I also > remember Jarre's "Equinox" and John Miles' "Music" (I used to love that > song) being part of a Buenos Aires TV weekly magazine program called: > "Monica Presenta". Oh, those good old days... > KW4EVER! > Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) concert classics / tour de france Date: 20 Sep 1999 10:12:43 -0700 >has anyone heard the CONCERT CLASSICS cd? is the quality good and is it >worth getting (i've been putting off buying it as it only seems to have >tracks from autobahn on it. not a bad thing I suppose but is the quality >good?) "Concert Classics" has the wrong song titles listed on the cover... The songs are really Kometenmelodie, Autobahn, Kling Klang, and Tanzmusik. There is some sort of flange/phasing device in the background throughout most of the concert, which creates a bit of noise, but yes, it's certainly the best recording available from that Kraftwerk era! And quite inexpensive as far as bootlegs go... ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "christian mueller" Subject: (kw) kraftwerk mp3z! Date: 20 Sep 1999 19:52:43 +0200 hello from germany! i=B4m searching for some kraftwerks mp3z (live at the warfield, live at t= he tribal gathering) can someone help me? i=B4ve got lots of filez for trade! bye christian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "wardkent" Subject: (kw) enregistree live Date: 20 Sep 1999 15:51:40 -0400 Hi My computerworld tour bootleg CD came in the mail today, and does it ever kick tail. It is one of the best albums I have now. If I can get my CD-R to cooperate I will be able to share the knowledge with others on the list. Contact me privately if you are interested. --Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Fluer book sold out Date: 20 Sep 1999 22:36:56 +0000 According to the publishers, the first edition of Wolfgang Fluer's Kraftwerk book is now sold out. A second edition is in preparation, and there are already plans for a third edition. Source: http://www.hannibal-verlag.de/novis/kraftwerk.htm. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Fluer book sold out Date: 20 Sep 1999 15:18:11 -0700 Klaus Zaepke wrote: >According to the publishers, the first edition of Wolfgang Fluer's >Kraftwerk book is now sold out. I couldn't be happier for Wolfgang. He deserves every minute (and every DM) of the spotlight he's getting. I sure hope Hannibal releases an english edition soon. Wolfgang rules Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) AB-CD Update Date: 20 Sep 1999 15:43:40 -0700 Found @: http://www.ab-cd.com/custom/cgi-bin/cat1 Kraftwerk: "Tribal Gathering" CDKTG001 UK 09/30/99 - CD Album Coming Soon... pre-orders welcome AB-CD price $31.97 This boot features the 05/25/1997 Luton Hoo estate concert 1. Intro 2. Numbers / Computer World 3. It's more fun to Compute 4. Man Machine 5. Tour de France 6. Autobahn 7. Radioactivity 8. Trans Europe Express 9. Abzug 10. Metal on Metal 11. Pocket Calculator 12. Dentaku 13. The Robots 14. Robotronik 15. New Song 16. Music non Stop 17. Tour de France (French Version) 18. Tour de France (re-mix) 19. Tour de France (10-speed instrumental) 20. Tour de France (10-speed mix) KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SRRecords@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Fluer book sold out Date: 20 Sep 1999 22:47:45 EDT << A second edition is in preparation, and there are already plans for a third edition >> I certainly hope that an English version is also in the plans of the publisher. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Off sync blinkings Date: 20 Sep 1999 21:16:24 -0700 > > >It wouldn't be that ridiculous. They were also miming when they performed > > >this song on TV ("Na sowas") in 1982 - which was undoubtedly a playback > > >performance. > > > > TV shows are a different story... They don't want mistakes, so they just > > play the radio edit and have the band lip-sync it. Television demands a > > perfect picture, it's very fake. > > > But if they can mime at a TV show, they can easily mime during concerts as > > well. Many bands are suspected to mime during parts of their live shows, > > the Rolling Stones are a famous example. So I wouldn't call this > > possibility ridiculous. > > Sure, its not impossible. Although I haven't scrutinized any Rolling > Stone performances, I'm rather sure that practically any experienced > musician would be able to tell if they were miming as well. Now TV > shows are truly a completely different issue. To mime on television is > a very common practice (no matter how deplorable) not only due to the > possibility of mistakes but also due to technical and scheduling > challenges in reproducing a proper mix using live instruments. But > during the tour, Kraftwerk were not miming The Model or any other > song. I've heard and seen the comical mistakes as well as the > magnificent dynamic changes in the musical phrasing & timbres > that make up Kraftwerk's signature sound. The Kraftwerk performance > is about as live as many other electronics based performance. Simply > lots of midi streams triggering lots of sounds controlled live at will > by the musicians. Why would that be so surprising? I have perhaps the funniest "accidental" performance I've ever seen on video tape. The Pet Shop Boys were on the Tonight Show, right after Jay Leno just took it over. They performed 'Where the Streets Have No Name', dancing angels, backup singers, the works. Well, the angels kept tripping on each other and fell down a couple-times on camera so Chris Lowe (one of the Boys) is too embarrassed to continue the performance... so he walks off half-way through the song. Neil, being the theatre-hardened queen that he is stays it out to complete the song, acting as if nothing had happened at all. A genteman to the end. Chris was no-place to be seen. I want to press it to DVD when I get a burner. They were not lip-synching a thing. It was great. Bill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 Date: 21 Sep 1999 15:31:45 +0200 Yesterday edition of the Spanish newspaper El Pais published a new about the Spanish participation in the Expo 2000. http://www.elpais.es/p/d/19990917/cultura/hannover.htm Excerpt: "The motto of the Universal Exposure of the year 2000 is 'Man, nature and technology'. It will take place in Hannover (north of Germany) since June 1st. It will last 153 days, from June 1st to October 31st. The motto of the Spain Pavillion will be 'Knowledge and solidarity'. Apparently this is an idea of Ricardo Diez Hochleitner (president of the Club of Rome) and the designer Javier Mariscal, author of the mascot of the organization of the Expo 2000. Also Santiago Miranda has designed the logo of the Expo. The budget of the Spanish Pavillion --which it will be found on the Europa avenue, between the German building and the American-- is 5.000 million of pesetas (approximately 568.188 DM)." DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fiddle Castrate" Subject: (kw) theives Date: 21 Sep 1999 09:47:49 GMT Listen to Puff Daddy's 'PE 2000'. THere's a solo-beat and I'm 100% sure it's a KW rip-off. It's virtually identical to Numbers... So even the so-called musical greats can't survive with ripping off from our lords. Damn them all! Mattwerk Sellafield 2 will produce 7.5 tons of plutonium every year. 1.5 kilograms of plutonium make the nuclear bomb. Sellafield 2 will release the same amount of radioactivity into the environment as Chernobyl every 4.5 years. One of these radioactive substances, Krypton 85, will cause death and skin cancer. (Kraftwerk 1991, c 1991 Klingklang) sod that, visit me at www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palace/8922 !!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christian Reupke Subject: Re: (kw) theives Date: 21 Sep 1999 16:53:06 +0200 At 09:47 21-09-99 +0000, Fiddle Castrate wrote: >Listen to Puff Daddy's 'PE 2000'. THere's a solo-beat and I'm 100% >sure it's a KW rip-off. It's virtually identical to Numbers... It's "Africa Bambaataa - Planet Rock" which contains samples of TEE. /Christian -- Christian Reupke - Kling Klang christian@reupke.dk - ICQ UIN: 5014595 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Petter Subject: Re: (kw) theives Date: 21 Sep 1999 08:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Oh, come on. That is a traditional electro beat. There are hundreds (thousands?) of records containing similar beats. Both in the nu-school electro genre and in the old-school hiphop/electro genre. It is also fairly known that kraftwerks beats are one of the strongest roots of hip hop music. Hence the apparent similarities. --- Fiddle Castrate wrote: > > Listen to Puff Daddy's 'PE 2000'. THere's a > solo-beat and I'm 100% > sure it's a KW rip-off. It's virtually identical to > Numbers... > > So even the so-called musical greats can't survive > with ripping off > from our lords. Damn them all! > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Volker Glave Subject: Re: (kw) theives Date: 21 Sep 1999 17:45:48 +0200 Fiddle Castrate wrote: > > Listen to Puff Daddy's 'PE 2000'. THere's a solo-beat and I'm 100% > sure it's a KW rip-off. It's virtually identical to Numbers... KW rip-off? Don't know. But I do recognize "Jam On It" from Newcleus, I think. Finest 80's electro/hiphop. (At home in the basement room I have the single record somewhere. Together with several LPs including R&F, KW 1, KW 2 etc. that all were destroyed by a rain caused flood some month ago :-( :-( :-( .) Volker # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik J. Eid" Subject: (kw) Reverse engineering Date: 21 Sep 1999 12:57:15 -0400 Greetings all! This message is for you enterprising Kraftwerk fans who, at one point or another, have covered a Kraftwerk piece in some form, be it a MIDI file, a MOD file, or something else. Right now I'm in a music composition class. One of the long-term exercises our professor has us involved in is to analyze a work that is similar to what we want to do with our own music. I chose to analyze "Computer World". I worked to determine its meter (4/4), form (intro, A section, B section, etc.), which was not overly difficult. I even managed to pick out a couple of melodies and write them out. I had much more difficulty with the percussion, largely because it initially sounds like there's so much going on. There really isn't - the percussion is the same throughout except for a few variations. I haven't tried to figure out the bassline yet. I really struggled to get what I did out of it. I'm wondering what techniques you musicians have used to cover Kraftwerk songs. Did you actually try to pick it apart? Did you instead start from scratch and try to imitate the song as you went? What are good ways to learn how to hear all of the intricacies, particularly overlapping basslines and percussion? Any advice you can give will be greatly appreciated. Thanks! . . \_ +\_ + o_-/ . O . \-_o -=/- . . . . \=// . ---------\_______ ||O ___.______ /* Erik Eid */ \____||L/\_____/ /* eeid@wwnet.net */_______________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "markus schmitz" Subject: (kw) neues von wolfgang fl=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=r Date: 21 Sep 1999 22:28:44 +0200 liebe kraftwerkfreunde, heute spreche ich pers=F6nlich zu euch. zuerst einmal vielen dank f=FCr euer vertrauen und die ermunternden mails zu meinem buch.. dieses war so schnell vergriffen, da=DF ich es selbst nicht glauben wollte. auf gar keinen fall aber wollte ich mit meinen erinnerungen unfriden stifte= n zwischen ralf/florian und mir. warum sie derma=DFen =FCberreagieren ist mir ein blankes r=E4tsel. ralf und florian haben nun anw=E4lte eingeschaltet, die verlangen, da=DF ich mein buch vom markt nehme. meinem verleger haben die selben anw=E4lte eine sehr hohe geldsumme als konventionalstrafe angedroht, wenn er das buch weiter vertreibt. ich kann ihm das nicht zumuten und wir werden zun=E4chst die rechtslage =FCberpr=FCfen bevor das buch in den druck und in den handel geht. h=F6rt in der zwischenzeit ruhig mal ein wenig in meine "rheinlandspecialit=E4ten" hinein. ich habe in das rezept der "time pie" soga= r ein wenig kraftwerk-flavour hineinger=FChrt. mal sehen, wer es herausschmeckt= . auf jeden fall ist die zeitpastete delicious every minute. da kann man was erleben. schreibt mir zu meinem buch oder zu meiner musik. ich werde jeden brief mit sicherheit beantworten. und noch ein: wer herausfindet, wen ich mit dem b=F6sen seelenverk=E4ufer "dr. ug. ly meine, der hat die chance eine signierte cd und ein selbstgemaltes bild (h=F6chste heiterkeit) aus meinem grafikkomputer zu gewinnen. alles gute nun f=FCr euch. ihr werdet hier an dieser stelle von mir pers=F6nlic= h =FCber den stand der entwicklungen unterrichtet, sobald es weitergeht. und es wird immer weitergehen - yamo als tr=E4ger neuer ideen. euer wolfgang # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=28kw=29_neues_von_wolfgang_fl=FCr?= Date: 21 Sep 1999 14:04:27 -0700 Mr. Wolfgang Flur: I understand the legal conflict about your book. Don't worry about a thing, I'll be here, waiting patiently until a fair agreement is reach among both parties. I'm speaking for myself here, but I guess we are ALL supporting you 100% on this quite unexpected endeavor. Thank you very much for writing to us and for being so HUMAN, and thank you Mr. Markus Schmitz for bringing Mr. Wolfgang closer to us, werkers of the world... I love you Wolfgang, yours unconditionally, Enrique Correa # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) Are there any KW gigs planned at all? Date: 21 Sep 1999 22:13:43 +0100 Are there any KW gigs planned at all? -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: frankc@DOH.STATE.NM.US Subject: (kw) We are the Robots, Ka-Ching! Date: 20 Sep 1999 20:25:38 GMT Check out the article in Mixer (USA) magazine (September 99). The article is titled, "We Are The Robots, Ka-Ching, Ka-Ching." "Kraftwerk's $100 grand-per-second jingle sparks controversy". http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/kw2000.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Yello Date: 22 Sep 1999 15:56:57 +0200 The new single by Yello is titled "The Robots". In their official webpage (www.yello.ch) there is a section named "Stations to Stations". Also in the site www.yello.com there is a file called "The Robots". DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric.Schader@gambro.com Subject: RE: (kw) Yello Date: 22 Sep 1999 16:12:43 +0200 No it's not. It's called "Squeeze Please" and will be released the 29th September. Please check the "newschannel" on their homepage. I honestly don't even recall them recording anything with the title "The Robots". Whatever = gave you this impression? Kindest regards Eric Sch=E4der The new single by Yello is titled "The Robots". In their official webpage (www.yello.ch) there is a section named "Stations to Stations". Also in the site www.yello.com there is a file called "The Robots". DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) Yello Date: 22 Sep 1999 16:20:38 +0200 Hrmmm - robots.txt is just a standard file controlling what an "indexing-robot" is allowed to see of the site. You'll find it in most web-servers. /Joakim -----Original Message----- ...there is a file called "The Robots". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "markus schmitz" Subject: (kw) news about wolfgang fl=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=r Date: 22 Sep 1999 18:57:36 +0200 > DIESE NACHRICHT IST IN MIME-FORMAT. Da Ihr Mailreader dieses Format nicht unterstŸtzt, kšnnte diese Nachricht ganz oder teilweise unlesbar sein. --MS_Mac_OE_3020871456_973197_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable kraftwerk: "i was a robot" (hannibal isbn 385441733) from me to you: today I speak to you personally! First let me say thanx for your confidence and your stimulating mails to my book "i was a robot", which is out in germany, austria and switzerland at the moment. Unfortunately it was out fast that I wouldn=B9t belive it. Anyway I didn=B9t want to bother my former friends with my book and I personally, see it as an honour to Kraftwerk. Bu= t Ralf and florian overreact frightening hard to it and this is one plain riddle to me. They also have appointed lawyers now which demand to take my book from the market immediately. They also have threatened my publisher with a "tidy little sum" of money in case of a further spread. I cannot expect this of him and we have to clear the legal position first before the book is going to be manufactured further and will be available again. Just listen to my "rheinlandspecialities" in between. I even have mixed a little of kraftwerkian flavour into the dough of "time pie". Let my know, who is able to taste it out. Anyway, time-pie is delicious every minute. Here you can experience something! And give me further mails to my book and music. I will answer in any case, I promise in return for your waiting. Something else: Who finds out, who I mean by the nusty mind trader "dr.ug.ly", wins a hand signed cd and a numbered art painting "serenity supreme" from my grafik-komputer. One has already Werner Grimm from Ipsheim / Germany and another one has Paul Wilkinson from Blackpool / England (if you only knew, what is on, harr-harr...). All the best now for you guys. You will be informed about further aktivitie= s on my book and music as soon as it moves on. And it will: "es wird immer weiter geh=B9n, Yamo als tr=E4ger neuer ideen". Your=B9s Wolfgang --MS_Mac_OE_3020871456_973197_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable news about wolfgang fl=FCr kraftwerk: "i was a robot" (hannibal isbn 3854= 41733)

from me to you:

today I speak to you personally! First let me say thanx for your confidence= and your stimulating mails to my book "i was a robot", which is o= ut in germany, austria and switzerland at the moment. Unfortunately it was o= ut fast that I wouldn=B9t belive it. Anyway I didn=B9t want to bother my former = friends with my book and I personally, see it as an honour to Kraftwerk. But= Ralf and florian overreact frightening hard to it and this is one plain rid= dle to me.
They also have appointed lawyers now which demand to take my book from the = market immediately. They also have threatened my publisher with a "tidy= little sum" of money in case of a further spread.
I cannot expect this of him and we have to clear the legal position first b= efore the book is going to be manufactured further and will be available aga= in.
Just listen to my "rheinlandspecialities" in between. I even have= mixed a little of kraftwerkian flavour into the dough of "time pie&quo= t;. Let my know, who is able to taste it out.
Anyway, time-pie is delicious every minute. Here you can experience somethi= ng! And give me further mails to my book and music. I will answer in any cas= e, I promise in return for your waiting.
Something else: Who finds out, who I mean by the nusty mind trader "dr= .ug.ly", wins a hand signed cd and a numbered art painting "sereni= ty supreme" from my grafik-komputer. One has already Werner Grimm from = Ipsheim / Germany and another one has Paul Wilkinson from Blackpool / Englan= d (if you only knew, what is on, harr-harr...).
All the best now for you guys. You will be informed about further aktivitie= s on my book and music as soon as it moves on. And it will: "es wird im= mer weiter geh=B9n, Yamo als tr=E4ger neuer ideen".    =         Your=B9s Wolfgang

--MS_Mac_OE_3020871456_973197_MIME_Part-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TiMeZeRo [Daniel Mark]" Subject: Hey all kw's. Time to earn money! (kw) Date: 22 Sep 1999 20:38:10 +0200 I hate chain e-mails, and I despise multi-level marketing, but I ran across something on the Internet today that I really do like. It is a company called ePIPO, and it will actually pay you 60 cents an hour to surf the web. They don't get in your way while on-line, and they don't make you visit any special sites, they just have a simple littlesoftware application that sits on your computer, displaying ads and counting your money. The application is no bigger than a typical banner ad, and you can move it around anywhere on your screen, so it really isn't too distracting. The ultimate thing about the concept is that they not only pay you to surf the web, but will also pay you when your friends and family are on-line as well. If you want to check it out, and get a raise while you are at it, go to: http://epipo.com/signup_form.asp?timezero to sign up. Best of luck, and be sure to let me know what you think. Daniel Mark (If you have the "timezero" after the "signup_form.asp" then you will get 10$ extra just for you registrated) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Wolfgang Fluer reading in Kassel, October 6th Date: 23 Sep 1999 00:31:45 +0000 Wolfgang Fluer reads from his Kraftwerk book at the Buchhandlung Habel in Kassel in two weeks (06.10.1999): http://www.buch-habel.de/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Lissy.woa/2034/wo/Ph6000G7400iT4005/3.2.1.37.1 Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Luca Boccianti Subject: Re: (kw) neues von wolfgang =?iso-8859-1?Q?fl=FCr?= Date: 22 Sep 1999 11:59:20 +0200 markus schmitz wrote: > liebe kraftwerkfreunde, etc. it sounds really interesting, but I think many people would be interested in having it transalted to english. could you be so nice to do it? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Luca Dassi" Subject: R: (kw) Yello Date: 22 Sep 1999 16:59:39 +0200 DA>Also in the site www.yello.com there is a file called "The Robots". Actually the file is named "robots.txt". This is a standard file used in Web sites and it contains indications upon which directories are to be included and/or excluded by search engine indexing, which is done by "search robots" - hence the name. Ciao, *Luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (kw) Yello Correction Date: 22 Sep 1999 18:58:37 PDT The new Yello single is called "Squeeze Please", not "The Robots". It is from their new album "Motion Pictures" . Unfortunately, this CD once again won't be available in the US, and suprisingly enough, it won't be out in the UK either. Imports will once again burn our wallets. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (kw) Babel Fish SUCKS !!!!! Date: 22 Sep 1999 19:22:17 PDT Does anyone know of another free, more accurate on-line language translator other than Alta Vista/Babel Fish ? It's really annoying; their translations are extremely inaccurate. I know some of you have mentioned this before, but no remedies were really discussed. I don't have the money to buy any really good translation software. Thanks. NoiseWerker/Juno/Josh ;-) NP : George Kranz - Din Daa Daa (Trommeltanz) (US Mix) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Babel Fish SUCKS !!!!! Date: 23 Sep 1999 07:41:33 +0100 Juno Jackson wrote: >Does anyone know of another free, more accurate on-line language translator >other than Alta Vista/Babel Fish ? Before receiving Markus's translation (thanks!), I tried to translate Herr Fluer's message using Babelfish and the results were indeed disappointing. http://www.systransoft.com/ gave slightly better results. To be fair to both translation engines, I do suspect that the style of German used, like the gentleman himself, may be quite idiosyncratic?! As for the book itself, I suppose the legal problems were to be expected. It's still a pity! At 8:38 pm +0200 22/9/99, TiMeZeRo [Daniel Mark] wrote: >I hate chain e-mails, and I despise multi-level marketing So do I , especially on email lists. >(If you have the "timezero" after the "signup_form.asp" then you will >get 10$ extra just for you registrated) And you get...? I do find this sort of thing distasteful, personally. But that's just my 2c... Regards Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Itens Date: 23 Sep 1999 07:11:17 -0300 Hi, everybody. Here is my complete list for trade (copy in VHS video, CD-r or MD) K R A F T W E R K - VIDEOS & BOOTLEGS Videos / CONCERTS: - Milano (Italy) 1991 NTSC - Utrecht (Holand) 13-11-91 PAL – M - Belgium 14-11-91 NTSC - Shefield (England) 1991 NTSC - Brixton (England) 19-07-91 PAL – M - Leicester University (England) 16-0692 NTSC - Italy 1990 NTSC - New York 1998 NTSC - Brazil (Four songs) by TV 16-10-98 NTSC - Japan (Two songs) by MTV 1998 NTSC Videos / CLIPS: Autobahn (animation – black & white) Ruckstop Gondolero (Pré- Kraftwerk) Antenna Radioactivity Neon Lights The Model The Robots The Telephone Call Musique Non Stop Trans-Europe Express Pocket Calculator (live) Die Roboter Showroom Dummies CDs / CONCERTS - San Francisco (USA) The Warfield Theater Soundboard, June 7, l998 (double CD) - Cologne , WDR (Germany) March 22, 1975 (3 songs) - Brighton (England) september 17, 1975 -Dusseldorf (Germany) Rebuilt in Ninetytwo (Pt. One) october 31, 1991 -Tokyo (Japan) Virtu ex Machina - 7-09-81 - Firenze (Italy) Hyper Cerebral Machine May 19,1981 -Paris (France) Computers in Love 1981 (double CD -Karlsruhe 1997 (double CD) -Tribal Gathering (Luton, may 25, 1997 BBC 1 + Ludwigsburg Forum (30-10-91) -Detroit (USA) june 12, 1998 (double CD) -London (UK) october 10, 1976 -Utrecht (Holand) 10-12-1981 REMIXES & TRIBUTE : - Trancewerk Express Vol. 1 (A Tribute to Kraftwerk) Remixes (Sex Objetct, Der Telefon Anruf, Radioactivity...) The First DJ Edition Trans-Eslovenia Express (EDUARDO MONTEIRO) 97fm@colatina.com.br # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "polbox" Subject: (kw) turn down the silence Date: 23 Sep 1999 12:59:22 +0200 i am looking for 'turn down the silence' mp3 by The Mobile Homes any ideas where i can find it? thnx in advance tadream # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) RE: Yello Date: 23 Sep 1999 15:34:45 +0200 Eric.Schader@gambro.com wrote: >>The new single by Yello is titled "The Robots". >>In their official webpage (www.yello.ch) there is a section named >>"Stations to Stations". >>Also in the site www.yello.com there is a file called "The Robots". >No it's not. It's called "Squeeze Please" and will be released the 29th >September. >Please check the "newschannel" on their homepage. I honestly don't even >recall them recording anything with the title "The Robots". Whatever gave >you this impression? No, please, excuse the mistake. "Robots" will be one of the eight tracks including in the forthcoming album by Yello. Their new CD will be released in December and it will take the title "Motion Picture". I heard it on a radio station from Spain, Radio3 RNE to be exact. The programme was Siglo 21 (21st Century). They also aired: FOLK IMPLOSION "Mechanical man", LETFIELD "Africa shox" (with the collaboration of Afrika Bambaataa), DERIVANDO "Computer love" and a song by a group called Antenna. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred_Harding@idx.com Subject: (kw) hey werkers... Date: 23 Sep 1999 09:35:21 -0400 I hate chain e-mails, and I despise multi-level marketing, but I ran across something on the Internet today that I really do like. It is a company called ePIPO, and i Well, wadda ya know, I hate chain-emails, and multi-level marketing too. That's why I didn't read the above quoted advertisement any further than the quote above. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Kraft Music Express Date: 23 Sep 1999 15:44:23 +0200 There is a musical instruments shop-on-line called Kraft Music Express. http://www.kraftmusic.com/ help@kraftmusic.com DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fiddle Castrate" Subject: (kw) kraftwerk site Date: 23 Sep 1999 11:53:33 GMT Hey, Wolfgang Fl=FCr visited my site too, just like Karl! Matty is now really happy now...and he was wondering if I would grant him a special Mattwerk halo just like Karl...of course I will!!! I just wanted to say that at least ONE person to do with Kraftwerk is human and respects his fans enough to interact with them, like when would Ralf or Florian send me a mail like Wolfgang did??? Wow... Enough sucking up, about my comment regarding Puff Daddy. Please be pessimistic like me and blame him for nicking Numbers for his own mediocre @#$%...burn the thief! Only joking...but it's SO like it, it's uncanny. Believe me. And the synth from Hey Boy Hey Girl (Chemicals) is very similar indeed to It's More Fun To Compute. And seeing as Music:Response was based on Music Non Stop (was admitted!!!), could this be yet another sign that the devine influence of Kraftwerk is still alive and kicking 20 years on??? Who knows... Have fun out there in e-mail land, Mattwerk Sellafield 2 will produce 7.5 tons of plutonium every year. 1.5 kilograms of plutonium make the nuclear bomb. Sellafield 2 will release the same amount of radioactivity into the environment as Chernobyl every 4.5 years. One of these radioactive substances, Krypton 85, will cause death and skin cancer. (Kraftwerk 1991, c 1991 Klingklang) sod that, visit me at www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palace/8922 !!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fiddle Castrate" Subject: (kw) kraftwerk site 2 Date: 23 Sep 1999 11:58:47 GMT Oh yeah. A Kraftwerk official site WITH guestbook and e-mail card... (it's a bit slow though) www.emimusic.de/artists/kraftwerk Mattwerk Sellafield 2 will produce 7.5 tons of plutonium every year. 1.5 kilograms of plutonium make the nuclear bomb. Sellafield 2 will release the same amount of radioactivity into the environment as Chernobyl every 4.5 years. One of these radioactive substances, Krypton 85, will cause death and skin cancer. (Kraftwerk 1991, c 1991 Klingklang) sod that, visit me at www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palace/8922 !!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric.Schader@gambro.com Subject: RE: (kw) RE: Yello Date: 23 Sep 1999 15:48:27 +0200 ---------- Mmmm, sounds interesting then. :-) Eric Eric.Schader@gambro.com wrote: >>The new single by Yello is titled "The Robots". >>In their official webpage (www.yello.ch) there is a section named >>"Stations to Stations". >>Also in the site www.yello.com there is a file called "The Robots". >No it's not. It's called "Squeeze Please" and will be released the 29th >September. >Please check the "newschannel" on their homepage. I honestly don't even >recall them recording anything with the title "The Robots". Whatever gave >you this impression? No, please, excuse the mistake. "Robots" will be one of the eight tracks including in the forthcoming album by Yello. Their new CD will be released in December and it will take the title "Motion Picture". I heard it on a radio station from Spain, Radio3 RNE to be exact. The programme was Siglo 21 (21st Century). They also aired: FOLK IMPLOSION "Mechanical man", LETFIELD "Africa shox" (with the collaboration of Afrika Bambaataa), DERIVANDO "Computer love" and a song by a group called Antenna. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ray" Subject: (kw) Any music Date: 23 Sep 1999 20:30:45 +0100 Hello all I don't have much of a Kraftwerk collection and would like to build this up can anyone help?? Ray # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Any music Date: 23 Sep 1999 12:38:06 -0700 >Hello all > >I don't have much of a Kraftwerk collection and would like to build this up >can anyone help?? > >Ray Well, they have seven albums currently in print around the world, so if you're having trouble finding them in your local stores, try ordering online! CDNOW and CDConnection are both good online CD stores. ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Fwd: Re: (kw) Kraft Music Express Date: 23 Sep 1999 12:38:46 -0700 > >>There is a musical instruments shop-on-line called Kraft Music Express. >>http://www.kraftmusic.com/ > >Check out this page on their site: > >http://www.kraftmusic.com/accessories.asp > >It's pretty awesome how they slashed their cable prices! They drastically >cut the price from $7.50 to the amazing price of... $7.50!!! Wow! > > ---Jason > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "communi-care" Subject: (kw) news neues von wolfgang fl=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=r Date: 23 Sep 1999 22:28:17 +0200 das buch ist wieder im handel viel spass # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kraft-Werk@webtv.net Subject: (kw) Ralf or Kraf ? ? ? Date: 23 Sep 1999 23:57:04 -0700 (PDT) Hello , all . I have two copies of the Kraftwerk album " Ralf and Florian " . Both are on Vertigo and seem to have the same " vel-2006 " My question is , whay does one LP say " Ralf and Florian " while the other says " Kraf and Florian " ? Can anyone out there help me out here ? ? ? Thanks in advance , Raul . . . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) Bootleg for trade Date: 24 Sep 1999 11:07:07 +0200 I've got here a KW-Bootleg from Cologne 1975, 22nd of March. One disc, containing these songs: Ruckzuck, Kometenmelodie, Autobahn. If anybody is interested in it, please e-mail me privatly. I would like to trade/swap it against another KW-Boot. Greets from vienna, Georgie -- * "Synthetic electronic sounds, industrial rhythms all around..." * * ...heute Abend aus Deutschland: KRAFTWERK * * Georg Jajus - Vienna - Austria * * * http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * phone & SMS: +436765621850 * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: list owner/moderator Re: Hey all kw's. Time to earn money! (kw) Date: 24 Sep 1999 02:35:00 +0000 with all due respect, i don't quite get it. i know that i shouldn't have done so, but i sent a virus warning letter to the list, which was confirmed/forwarded from Microsoft, and i get an undeliverable message from the list owner, and this trash makes it to the list. how the hell does that happen!? is there is some kind of probationary status the list owner can impose on members without their knowledge. this is also very interesting since months ago someone sent political newsletters to the list several times (by mistake, of coarse), and none of those messgages were blocked. but i send something that would actually be useful to 100% of list members, and i get blocked (blocked as in my message never reached the list at all). can someone offer me an explanation? of coarse, if one of you gets screwed by this virus, i'd suggest taking it up with the person/entity/organisation who/which blocked my message, as no one is allowed to send that type of messages to the list. now i'd like to see if this e-mail makes it to the list, since it has nothing to do with Kraftwerk. if this does make it to the list, do not e-mail me and ask me for the virus info, i do not have any time for that right now or anymore. however, i bet you the list owner might have retained a copy of my original message, to inform himself and those close to him of coarse. of coarse i don't care if any of you get the virus info i got it what i would like to know is why am i beining selectively scrutinized. did i reach my quota for arguing with K. Zaepke, or did i poke a little (too much) fun at Priscilla's message? that would be all, good day, lenny g At 08:38 PM 9/22/99 "TiMeZeRo [Daniel Mark]" wrote: > > > >I hate chain e-mails, and I despise multi-level marketing, but I ran >across something on the Internet today that I really do like. It is a >company called ePIPO, and it will actually pay you 60 cents an hour >to surf the web. They don't get in your way while on-line, and they >don't make you visit any special sites, they just have a simple >littlesoftware application that sits on your computer, displaying ads and >counting your money. The application is no bigger than a typical >banner ad, and you can move it around anywhere on your screen, so it >really isn't too distracting. The ultimate thing about the concept is that >they not only pay you to surf the web, but will also pay you when your >friends and family are on-line as well. If you want to check it out, and >get a raise while you are at it, go to: >http://epipo.com/signup_form.asp?timezero to sign up. > >Best of luck, and be sure to let me know what you think. > >Daniel Mark > >(If you have the "timezero" after the "signup_form.asp" then you will >get 10$ extra just for you registrated) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Finarvas Subject: Re: list owner/moderator Re: Hey all kw's. Time to earn money! (kw) Date: 24 Sep 1999 18:41:23 +0200 I dont think the moderator actually reads every single message before sending them to the list. Your message probably just reached a server that was down or something. /Finarvas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: list owner/moderator Re: Hey all kw's. Time to earn money! (kw) Date: 24 Sep 1999 18:37:34 +0000 very convenient # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JMJ Fanklubb Norge" Subject: (kw) Trans Slovenia Express for trade Date: 25 Sep 1999 15:01:50 +0200 Hey, I'd like to trade this KW tribute for any legal copy of Autobahn or = Radio Activity on CD. If you have a spare copy and would like to have = TSE, please let me know in private. thanks for reading, glenn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Priscila Morsoletto Subject: (kw) Re: list owner/moderator Re: Hey all kw's. Time to earn money! ( Date: 25 Sep 1999 14:22:14 -0300 On 24 Sep 99 at 2:35, 47 wrote: >or did i poke a little (too much) fun at Priscilla's message? Excume me, but about WHAT are you talking about??? As far as I remember I did NOT send messages to this list from a LONG time. Or did I? Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TiMeZeRo [Daniel Mark]" Subject: Sorry for the "Time to earn money" email (kw) Date: 26 Sep 1999 00:10:48 +0200 Well, I just maked a auto send service function to every registrated email adress in my Adress book. I didnt ment to send it to the Kraftwerk list. Sorry! Daniel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TiMeZeRo [Daniel Mark]" Subject: ICQ USERS!! (kw)!! Date: 26 Sep 1999 00:15:03 +0200 Id just maked a activelist for synth and electronic music on the icq. To join it you got to have the latest icq version (Pc version) Just click on the "Service" button and select "Icq active list" And when that menu flyes up, select "Find/add an ICQ Activelist" And enter this ID number: 50490917 And join! Check out the Synth-chat/Newsboard/Member Message/Url! See ya! (Remeber 50490917) Daniel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TiMeZeRo [Daniel Mark]" Subject: (kw) New activelist at icq Date: 26 Sep 1999 00:18:15 +0200 Id just maked a activelist for synth and electronic music on the icq. To join it you got to have the latest icq version (Pc version) Just click on the "Service" button and select "Icq active list" And when that menu flyes up, select "Find/add an ICQ Activelist" And enter this ID number: 50490917 And join! Check out the Synth-chat/Newsboard/Member Message/Url! See ya! (Remeber 50490917) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Re: list owner/moderator Re: Hey all kw's. Time to earn money! Date: 24 Sep 1999 17:20:40 +0100 > can someone offer me an explanation? I'll try, but Lenny, if you have a problem for the listadmin, why not take it to him direct? The address is given in the introductory message sent to members (reproduced at http://www.studio-nibble.com/lists/kraftwerk.info), but here it is again: owner-kraftwerk@xmission.com. The same message does state that virus warnings are never welcome on the list, so bear that in mind when writing! Having said that, I would be amazed if Lazlo had personally taken the trouble to intercept your email, let alone censor it! It may have got zapped by the mailing list software, however. I once got email bounced because I used a word which was a synonym of the word "s*bscr*be" (letters "u" and "i" omitted for safety!). >of coarse, if one of >you gets screwed by this virus, i'd suggest taking it up with the >person/entity/organisation who/which blocked my message Since I don't use a PC, that's unlikely. I doubt if I'd win an argument with Majorodomo anyway. :-) >however, i bet you the list owner might have retained a copy of my original >message, to inform himself and those close to him of coarse. Time to change your brand of coffee, Lenny! Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: list owner/moderator Re: Hey all kw's. Time to earn money! (kw) Date: 25 Sep 1999 23:28:39 -0600 On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 02:35:00AM +0000, 47 wrote: > with all due respect, i don't quite get it. i know that i shouldn't have > done so, but i sent a virus warning letter to the list, which was > confirmed/forwarded from Microsoft, and i get an undeliverable message from > the list owner, and this trash makes it to the list. how the hell does > that happen!? That happens because when the word "virus" appears on a posting it get forwarded to me so I can make sure it's not one of those bogus "virus warning" messages before forwarding it to the list. Believe me, if I had some way of filtering MLM postings as well, I would! :-) -- Lazlo Nibble - lazlo@studio-nibble.com - http://www.studio-nibble.com -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) KW-ish song in MP3 Date: 26 Sep 1999 22:26:24 +0200 Hi, Thought some of you may eventually be interested on this: I have posted on my MP3 page the song "Tout petit la plan=E8te" by Plast= ic Bertrand. Plastic Bertrand was mainly known in the late 70's for his worldwide suc= cess "Ca plane pour moi", but he also made afew good New Wave tracks as = well. In my opinion, "tout petit la plan=E8te" is a great example of a KW infl= uenced song, because Plastic Bertrand's voice is very robotic on this on= e and there are some interesting vocoder effects at the end of the song. So, if you don't mind hearing some lyrics in french, you should take a l= ook at it. btw, My MP3 page is at http://home.worldnet.fr/bonald/audio/mp3.htm Cheers, Arnaud # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Intro on Fluer Date: 27 Sep 1999 12:35:47 +0000 The October issue of Intro contains a review of Wolfgang Fluer's Kraftwerk book. The article (German language) is online at http://www.intro.de/23/zuhaus/sehtest-anzeigen.php3?action=volkat&vol n r=68&kategorie=203 Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Hubert Bognermayr Date: 27 Sep 1999 16:04:33 +0200 Quoted from Future Music Spanish Edition number 30: "Hubert Bognermayr died. He started to use electronic instruments in the 70s, and founded and led the group Eela Craig (1970 - 1977). Also he collaborated with Kraftwerk, Bob Moog, Klaus Schuelze and Wendy Carlos." Hubert Bognermayr born in Linz on 06.04.1948, and died on 17.03.1999. In 1979 he was the initiator and co-founder of the ARS ELECTRONICA. More info at: http://www.blue-chip-academy.com/frhistory.html DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) KW-ish song in MP3 Date: 27 Sep 1999 19:13:54 +0100 Arnaud de Bonald wrote: >In my opinion, "tout petit la plan=E8te" is a great example of a KW >influenced song, because Plastic Bertrand's voice is very robotic on this >one and there are >some interesting vocoder effects at the end of the song. [...] >btw, My MP3 page is at http://home.worldnet.fr/bonald/audio/mp3.htm Thanks for making this available, Arnaud. I had just part of it on cassette, taken from a French (maybe Belgian!) radio broadcast at the time of its release, some time in the 80s... Alas, I still can't get the whole thing, as I've been getting download problems after a minute or so of the song... but if others on this list can get download the whole song, they may well find it of interest. The Kraftwerk influence is akin to that shown by M. Bertrand's fellow Belgians, Telex, IMO. Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: (kw) off topic - robot insurance Date: 27 Sep 1999 23:29:37 -0400 WARNING: OFF TOPIC! (but it deals with robots) For those of you familiar with Saturday Night Live...this is non-KW related, but is a spoof on those TV commercials for life insurance for senior citizens. Are YOU insured in case of a robot atack???? (available in your choice of WindowsMedia or RealVideo) http://www.snl25.com click on "Screening Room" scroll list to "Season 21", then click "GO" Go to November 18, 1995, and select the type and speed most appropriate for you. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) early KW albums in MP3 Date: 28 Sep 1999 20:46:27 +0200 Hi, I had many many request for this, so I uploaded at the followint FTP address all four KW's early albums the FTP address is 194.57.60.73 and the albums are stored in /uploadz/kraftwerk, they may eventually be moved afterward to /mp3z/kraftwerk Enjoy ! Arnaud # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) early KW albums in MP3 Date: 28 Sep 1999 20:46:27 +0200 Hi, I had many many request for this, so I uploaded at the followint FTP address all four KW's early albums the FTP address is 194.57.60.73 and the albums are stored in /uploadz/kraftwerk, they may eventually be moved afterward to /mp3z/kraftwerk Enjoy ! Arnaud # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Sundkvist" Subject: (kw) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 21:02:33 CEST Date: 28 Sep 1999 21:35:41 -0600 I wonder if somebody could tell me what a sequencer and vocoder is. Also when and if KW uses the soft- or hardware based ones. Many details please! Thanks, Ekka ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) london listies pls email me Date: 29 Sep 1999 02:18:23 +0100 excuse me for the ot but I have a friend in London for few days and I need some addresses to direct him to shop for me. many thanks. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timon Marmex Trzepacz Subject: Re: (kw) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 21:02:33 CEST Date: 29 Sep 1999 04:57:45 -0700 Greetings. Erik Sundkvist wrote: > I wonder if somebody could tell me what a sequencer and vocoder is. Also > when and if KW uses the soft- or hardware based ones. Many details please! A sequencer is a device or program which allows entry of musical data (i.e. a "sequence" of notes, drum sounds, control changes, etc.) for later playback. Examples include computer programs such as Cakewalk or Cubase, and hardware devices such as the Roland Micro-Composer, the Yamaha QY-70, and the Doepfer MAQ16/3, among many others. Exactly what Kraftwerk actually uses in concert is the subject of some debate, but is officially known that the Doepfer MAQ16/3 MIDI Analog Sequencer was developed in cooperation with Kraftwerk, so it is fairly certain that they use that one. Other Doepfer products, the Schaltwerk and Regelwerk seem to be named after the band, but no claims are made by Doepfer that they are actually used by Kraftwerk. As for a vocoder, it is a device which modulates one signal (the carrier) with the extracted frequency spectrum of another signal (the modulator). Generally, the modulator signal is human speech, and the resulting output is very synthetic/robotic sounding speech. It is reasonably certain that Kraftwerk uses a hardware based vocoder (perhaps the one sold by Doepfer?), as the software based solutions have only come about very recently and are generally too slow for live use. Hope that helps. -- Timon -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Die Robot Vocoder Date: 29 Sep 1999 15:04:48 +0200 There is a Vocoder called Die Robot PCP-330 Vocoder F.A.T (Freeform Analog Technology) http://bunji.realitycom.com/KILO4-3/synth/pc-330.cfm DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dean" Subject: (kw) help me... Date: 29 Sep 1999 14:22:10 GMT Hello KW fans, I need your help! I am trying to compile some of their stuff on my new cd-rewriter. But it's not working, and the Helpdesk is not helping me at all! I have a Sony crx100erp with as software PacketCD and WinOnCd 3.6. So far I've learned that I can only use CD-Rs. The helpdesk says I do not have to format the CD-R, but if I try to write songs to it, the program refuses, the CD-R is "in PacketCD format". But I didn't format it in that format! The CD-R is recognised in my HiFi's CD player but it doesn't contain anything; so how can I add songs??? (or is the program a dud???) Thanks to anyone who can help me... Mattwerk Sellafield 2 will produce 7.5 tons of plutonium every year. 1.5 kilograms of plutonium make the nuclear bomb. Sellafield 2 will release the same amount of radioactivity into the environment as Chernobyl every 4.5 years. One of these radioactive substances, Krypton 85, will cause death and skin cancer. (Kraftwerk 1991, c 1991 Klingklang) sod that, visit me at www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palace/8922 !!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Olivier Lpauente Subject: (kw) KW sound outdated or not? Date: 29 Jun 1999 23:32:55 +0800 > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3013543975_443926_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I was wondering how much of KW do people think sounds outdated if at all? Computer world and Man machine still sound very fresh but what about Tour de France or even TEE?. Also is their earlier work more influencial now or the standards still draw most of the influence?. Does anyone think that they have evolved in the last 10 years?. I would like to know people's opinion on this. Thanks --MS_Mac_OE_3013543975_443926_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable KW sound outdated or not?

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this. Thanks --MS_Mac_OE_3013543975_443926_MIME_Part-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Petter Subject: Re: (kw) KW sound outdated or not? Date: 29 Sep 1999 08:50:09 -0700 (PDT) I don't think the older stuff sound outdated at all. It might sound old sometimes, but that is not the same. The Mix, on the other hand, is really outdated. --- Olivier Lpauente wrote: > I was wondering how much of KW do people think > sounds outdated if at all? > Computer world and Man machine still sound very > fresh but what about Tour de > France or even TEE?. Also is their earlier work more > influencial now or the > standards still draw most of the influence?. Does > anyone think that they > have evolved in the last 10 years?. I would like to > know people's opinion on > this. Thanks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eugene Zaikonnikov Subject: Re: (kw) KW sound outdated or not? Date: 29 Sep 1999 17:46:57 +0300 Olivier Lpauente wrote: > > I was wondering how much of KW do people think sounds outdated if at > all? Not at all. OTOH, your date is outdated for three months. Cheers, Eugene. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Sequencers Date: 29 Sep 1999 18:34:12 +0100 Erik Sundkvist wrote: >I wonder if somebody could tell me what a sequencer and vocoder is. Also >when and if KW uses the soft- or hardware based ones. Many details please! Sequencers were discussed in some details a few weeks ago, so you will find some useful stuff in the archives (look around 21st - 22nd August). I'll add something about them to the FAQ at some point. Which, by the way, you should have a look at before posting: you'll find your vocoder question answered there, for example. Timon Marmex Trzepacz wrote: >the software based solutions have only come about very recently and are >>generally too slow for live use. This is no longer the problem it once was (for example, see the one made by Opcode), but the unreliability of computers remains the same, alas! Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Lopez Van dam Subject: (kw) I need help with Swedish(off-topic) Date: 30 Sep 1999 12:11:31 -0300 (ART) Hello! This message is for all Swedish people in the list. I'm supposed to embroider flowers on a tablecloth for an exposition taking place next Sunday, but surprinsingly the colours are in Swedish, I suppose. I speak a little German, tried to figure it out, but I couldn't. Can somebody help me as soon as possible? The text reads: (I replaced with approximated sounds some letters I don't have in my keyboard: au for a with upper circle, oe for o with bar) "Hver farvegruppe i klamme svarer til et bundt i garntilloeget. moerk groen mellem groen lys groen moerk grau lys grau gyldenbrun moerk mat blauroed moerk graugroen lys stark gulgroen moerk fraise lys fraise moerk lilla mellem lilla lys lilla lyseste lilla moerk vissengroen lys vissengroen blaugroen moerk brun mellem brun blaulilla lys blaulilla" Thank you very much (in advance) to you all Laura Ps: translate it to English, I'll translate to Spanish Kisses! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Read Subject: (kw) Re: I need help with Swedish(off-topic) Date: 30 Sep 1999 21:36:39 +0100 At 12:11 -0300 30/9/99, Laura Lopez Van dam wrote: It's Danish. > "Hver farvegruppe i klamme svarer til et bundt i garntilloeget. Each colour group in brackets corresponds to a group/bundle in the thread supplement (?--I am not sure what this refers to--) > moerk groen dark green > mellem groen medium green > lys groen light green > moerk grau dark grey > lys grau light grey > gyldenbrun > moerk mat blauroed dark matt blue-red > moerk graugroen dark grey-green > lys stark gulgroen light strong yellow-green > moerk fraise dark strawberry > lys fraise light strawberry > moerk lilla dark pink > mellem lilla medium mauve > lys lilla light mauve > lyseste lilla lightest mauve > moerk vissengroen dark faded green > lys vissengroen light faded green > blaugroen blue-green > moerk brun dark brown > mellem brun medium brown > blaulilla blue-mauve > lys blaulilla" light mauve > Thank you very much (in advance) to you all > Laura > Ps: translate it to English, I'll translate to Spanish > Kisses! Hope this helps Best wishes Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/