From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: (kw) EXPO Concert Date: 01 Nov 1999 09:29:30 +0100 Hello ! When will the KW-concert at EXPO happen ? June 9th or July 9th, 2000 ? Who nose ? eh... knows ? Thanks Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Bailey" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk - The Elete Recordings Date: 01 Nov 1999 15:34:42 -0000 I was wondering if anyone on the list has or knows of the bootleg called: "Kraftwerk - The Elite Recordings - Mannekin Rocords (luxembourg)". A guy at my work has brought it in today and I was wondering if anyone knows the (rough) value of it ? More info would be great thanks. Dannyb :o) PS. Does anyone want a ripped copy of it ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lemmens Geert Subject: (kw) klaus schultz Date: 01 Nov 1999 11:38:18 -0800 (PST) hi, i have some questions about schultz * can you compare his music to the early KW sound? * what is his best album? * which album should be recommended to discover his music? thanks in advance, skylined ===== "Make popular programs good and good programs popular." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: it942468@student.paisley.ac.uk (Ian Tyson) Subject: (kw) TDF Date: 01 Nov 1999 20:29:13 +0000 Problems getting TDF CD? I have never seen it on display in the record shops but I decided to ask for it in Tower Records in Glasgow about three weeks ago. The assistant simply went into a back room and brought out a copy priced £2.99. Is this some sort of marketing ploy? ian t # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: thomas m weibrecht Subject: Re: (kw) klaus schultz Date: 01 Nov 1999 15:56:12 -0500 On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:38:18 -0800 (PST) Lemmens Geert writes: > > > hi, i have some questions about schultz > > * can you compare his music to the early KW sound? definately not... > * what is his best album? historic edition > * which album should be recommended to discover his > music? same as above tom w np: pastels remixed ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) klaus schultz Date: 01 Nov 1999 22:40:14 +0100 On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:38:18 -0800 (PST), Lemmens Geert wrote: > > >hi, i have some questions about schultz > >* can you compare his music to the early KW sound? I don't think, it's much more ambient as far as I know. >* what is his best album? Probably Timewind in my opinion. > >* which album should be recommended to discover his >music? see above. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk - The Elete Recordings Date: 02 Nov 1999 09:28:25 +1100 > I was wondering if anyone on the list has or knows of the bootleg called: > > "Kraftwerk - The Elite Recordings - Mannekin Rocords (luxembourg)". Isn't Manekin records in Berlin? They do Klaus Schulze, but not KW..... > PS. Does anyone want a ripped copy of it ? Sure, but first ...... what's on it? :-) v # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: Re: (kw) klaus schultz Date: 02 Nov 1999 09:34:26 +1100 The correct spelling is: Klaus Schulze > * which album should be recommended to discover his > music? If you like KW you may enjoy his more rhythmical albums like Inter*Face (which influenced many techno artists) or Audentity, I agree with Timewind, but the re-release of Moondawn is great also, Mirage is prolly my fave... basically anything from his first album to inter*face. well anyway I have the lot...... over 80 albums... phew! Don't forget Manuel Goettschings E2-E4, recorded by KS, its THE trance classic of all times! cu Vladimir # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lloyd Subject: (kw) "Rheinstahl"? Date: 01 Nov 1999 19:26:20 -0500 All, I've been listening to www.quicktracks.com Techno station rather frequently recently, and they've been updating their request selections. One of the things that was recently added was a track called "Rheinstahl" by Kraftwerk. I believe it to be an error, and probably should be by Kraftwelt. Anyone have any info on this? I listened to the track and it isn't even remotely Kraftwerkian in sound. -- Email: fridge@sympatico.ca Fido: grizz@fido.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) Klaus Schulze Date: 01 Nov 1999 17:33:30 -0700 skylined wrote: >hi, i have some questions about schultz >* can you compare his music to the early KW sound? No, although they do have "some similarities": they were both influenced by the same guy (Stockhausen), they are both minimalists bands, they both have a cool rhythmic sound, (but Klaus' percussive style is a lot closer to Tangerine Dream's), and they both have created their "own" sound, instead of sampling others. >* what is his best album? Though one... he's got so many.. with so many different styles... "Moondawn" and "Timewind" are great, but sound dated; "E2-E4" is great if you're in a mood for sampling stuff; "X" if you're in a mood for symphonic, and you can't go wrong with either "Mirage", "Dresden", or "Dig It". >* which album should be recommended to discover his >music? I think "Essential (1972-1993)" it's a very good introduction to the different periods and different sounds of this extraordinarily prolific musician's career. Enjoy Enrique np: "The Dome Event" Klaus Schulze. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nat Heidler" Subject: (kw) Looking for a memebers site Date: 02 Nov 1999 08:58:56 -0600 Hello Werkers. Until my computer crashed, I had a link to a list memebers site. I'm hoping he'll see this and send me the url again, or if someone recognizes this guy and has his site address he'll send it to me. I don't recall his names, but he is from Sweden, living in Florida. His site was divided musically into KW, DM and Smashing Pumpkins. Also thanks to all the people who pointed me to Balanescu Quartet. Thanks, Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re (kw) "Rheinstahl"? Date: 02 Nov 1999 10:28:49 -0700 Bruce wrote: >[...]One of the things that was recently added was a track >called "Rheinstahl" by Kraftwerk. I believe it to be an error [..] Yes, that was an error. BTW, the song "Rheinstahl" (by the group of the same name) can be found in a 1997 compilation called "The Liquid Sky Cologne Adventure Series Vol. 2" released in conjunction with the Liquid Sky Cologne group on the label Electro Bunker Cologne, and features the following tracks: Dr Walker "Dann Neunhunderdrei" Brotherz In Armz "Icequeen 1.1" Strobocop & Dr Walker "Polizeihund Im Dienst" Lis Lips "Cum Into My Heart" Rheinstahl "s/t" Frank Heiss "Broadcast Loops" 2 Live And Die In Colonge "s/t" Dr Walker "Uzi-Funk-Vol.1" Frank Heiss "She Said One Over One" Mike Stone "Dangerous Curvez" Frank Heiss & Allen Towbin (on a half speed guitar) "Devils Are Angels" Enrique np: "Tubular Bells II" Mike Oldfield # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) EXPO 2000 CD date-locked? Date: 02 Nov 1999 13:11:28 +0000 hi everybody, here's an idea, or more like a question for the more computer minded people on the list. the seemingly unaccessibale data on the EXPO2000 CD you've tried all the tricks: what do you think about this: can the CD or the data be date-locked. can something be encrypted into it so that it can not be opened until a specific date and time. if, for example, the time it can become open is 0:00 01.01.2000 than can this cd scan the computer clock for the date and time as soon as you activate your CD-drive? anyway, maybe i've watched too much star trek and other sci-fi, but i think it's a pretty good idea and if it's possible why not R+F use this technique. so how do we find out the date when the information becomes available to us. is it the turn of the century, the day the expo opens, anyone? lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Re: Kraftwerk Maxie CD Date: 02 Nov 1999 11:01:45 -0700 Klaus Zaepke wrote: >> According to the Sueddeutsche Zeitung, the EXPO plans to >>publish a CD-ROM, featuring the original Kraftwerk jingle, an >>extended version, plus a "virtual flight" over the EXPO area >>(intended price DM 200). [...] >>Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung had some more details: >>- The CD/CD-ROM is scheduled for late October. >>- The extended version runs 18 seconds for each of the six languages. >>- The CD/CD-ROM will be published under the name "EXPO 2000", >>not under "Kraftwerk", to avoid legal problems with the group. >>Kraftwerk will be credited as composers, though. [..] Gubbolf wrote: >On 6th of December (my birthday ;-) KRAFTWERK will release a >NEW MAXI-CD called "EXPO 2000" Are we talking about the same thing here? Who's releasing this ext. version, and WHEN? Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Ich war ein naughty boy Date: 02 Nov 1999 19:02:54 +0000 I don't suppose there's any word at all on the likelihood of Herr Fluer's book being translated into English? Failing that, I understand that legal actions have not limited the availibility of the German edition? (Time to really learn that language!). Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) Klaus Schulze Date: 01 Nov 1999 21:42:56 -0500 >>* what is his best album? >>> Though one... he's got so many.. with so many different styles... "Moondawn" and "Timewind" are great, but sound dated; "E2-E4" is great if you're in a mood for sampling stuff; "X". if you're in a mood for symphonic, and you can't go wrong with either "Mirage." "Dresden," or "Dig It." <<< Personally, I recommend "Picture Music" and "En=Trance." Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) track listing Date: 02 Nov 1999 22:07:09 +0100 Hi, Could someone tell me the track listing of the bootleg Ultra Rare Trax Vol 2 (10 Rare Tracks) Thanks, Arnaud # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Music for the 3rd Millennium" Date: 02 Nov 1999 22:46:50 +0000 Quoted from http://www.ampmusic.demon.co.uk/ampcds.html: AMP-CD039 VARIOUS ARTISTS "Music For The 3rd Millennium" Isao Tomita (Japan) "Pacific 231" (6:46) Patrick Moraz (YES/MOODY BLUES) (Switzerland) ..."Modular Symphony 4th Movement (Excerpt)" (5:05) Keith Emerson (ELP) (UK) "Katoh-San" (4.15) Rick Wakeman (YES) (UK) "Catherine of Aragon 1990's version" (4.35) White Noise (UK) "I Need Space" (4.30) Karl Bartos (KRAFTWERK) (Germany) "Tour De France" (6.45) Steve Jolliffe (TANGERINE DREAM) (UK) "New Millenium" (7.20) Richard Pinhas (HELDON) (France) "Marie Zorn Transmutation" (7.13) Larry Fast (SYNERGY) (USA) "Moon Caves" (5.03) Steve Baltes (ASHRA TEMPEL) (Germany) "The Way It Sounds" (6.03) Neil Ardley (UK) "Europa" (4.00) Alquimia (Mexico) "Floralia" (4.30) Mark Jenkins (UK) "Overture to Dante's Inferno" (5.40) MC Russell (UK) "Into The Future" (4.30) "Music For The 3rd Millennium" comprises "unreleased tracks celebrating the masters of electronic, ambient and progressive music - for this century, and on into the third millennium". The album was released at 11.11am BST on August 11th, the moment of totality of the European Total Solar Eclipse, and is available in a limited numbered edition of 1,000 copies. Among the ground-breaking tracks included are the first ever CD release of the Kraftwerk composition "Tour De France" in its German language version recorded by Karl Bartos; an unreleased preview of Patrick Moraz' "Modular Symphony"; a previously unheard Larry Fast (Synergy) composition, "Moon Caves"; a rare Isao Tomita unreleased track; and many pieces created specially for the compilation. "Music for the 3rd Millenium" was compiled by Mark Jenkins and is available from all good electronic music suppliers and direct from AMP Records. --- End of quote --- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Kraftwerk Maxie CD Date: 02 Nov 1999 22:46:50 +0000 > From: Enrique Correa > > Klaus Zaepke wrote: > >> According to the Sueddeutsche Zeitung, the EXPO plans to > >>publish a CD-ROM, featuring the original Kraftwerk jingle, an > >>extended version, plus a "virtual flight" over the EXPO area > >>(intended price DM 200). [...] > >>The CD/CD-ROM is scheduled for late October. > >>The extended version runs 18 seconds for each of the six languages. > >>- The CD/CD-ROM will be published under the name "EXPO 2000", > >>not under "Kraftwerk", to avoid legal problems with the group. > > Gubbolf wrote: > >On 6th of December (my birthday ;-) KRAFTWERK will release a > >NEW MAXI-CD called "EXPO 2000" > > Are we talking about the same thing here? No. According to http://www.bigbag.de, the single scheduled for December 6th appears to be a normal audio CD, it is announced as a Kling-Klang release under Kraftwerk's name, it doesn't appear to be limited, and it's priced like a normal CD single (in contrast to the silly price the EXPO announced for their CD-/CD-ROM release). So it appears to be something different. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peeters Ivo" Subject: Re: (kw) TdF in German plus Wolfgang Date: 02 Nov 1999 23:04:24 +0100 I > >Someone mentioned that Tour de France German version was the same as the >French version but it is not! My 1983 12" has "version allemande" on the >A-side and it is sung in German, the text being close to the French >version. I don't have the text written down but I am sure it is to be found >somewhere in the FAQ or on some discographic homepage. My version has mentioned 'version allemande' and it is also sung in French. I read somewhere that a lot of mispressings are around. Ivo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "davethewave@excite.com" Subject: (kw) tribal gathering promo's Date: 02 Nov 1999 14:41:35 PST when kraftwerk played at tribal gathering emi records released a limited number of 4 promo only 12". a ltd few came in a box and some even came with a t-shirt. i have managed to get hold of two sets of these releases but i'm afraid there is no box or t-shirt. i am keeping one set for myself and selling the other one if anyone is interested. they are all in mint condition(never been played) with brilliant robot picture covers and individual catalogue numbers. tracklisting is: trans europe express/trans europe express(inst) klang dj 101 numbers/numbers klang dj 102 musique non stop/musique non stop klang dj 103 home computer/it's more fun to compute klang dj 104 anyone interested in this set get in touch with me at the above e-mail adress with a reasonable offer or a decent swap thanks. I AM NOT A TRADER, I AM A GENUINE FAN ________________________________________________________________ Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Leon Mols" Subject: Re: (kw) klaus schultz Date: 01 Nov 1999 22:13:26 +0100 You can definitely not compare Klaus Schulze's music to any Kraftwerk music, except for the fact that they both use synthesizers, but then: who doesn't ??? What's his best album, difficult to say, he recorded so many. Some of my favourites are: Moogetique (Body Music), X, Picture Music, Dark Side of the Moog vol 7, and his very first one: Irrlicht If you want to listen to Schulze's music, is difficult, because his style changed over the years. Leon ----- Original Message ----- > * can you compare his music to the early KW sound? > > * what is his best album? > > * which album should be recommended to discover his > music? > > thanks in advance, > > skylined # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #349 Date: 01 Nov 1999 14:10:08 -0800 > ""Lichthof", "Techtalk" and "Nummweltverschmutzung" are all bootlegger = > > fake titles. "Tribal" is authentic. > >Thanks, but what about the other 2 songs (the one referred to as "Tango" >after Airwaves, and the second song from 97 that was not played in the 98 >concerts)--do they have official names too? The song played after "Airwaves" and the song played before "Music Non-Stop" are the same song. Listen to them, you'll realize that it's the same melodies, basslines, notes, et cetera. They just did two versions of the same song using different instruments and arrangements. So, I imagine both songs are titled "Tribal". ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "PITT, Mike" Subject: (kw) Man Machine Recreated Date: 02 Nov 1999 10:54:45 -0000 Download the entire bootleg of Man Machine Recreated at; http://website.lineone.net/~mike.pitt/tdk.htm Mike ___________________________________________________________________________ This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Sema Group. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the Sema Group Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600. ___________________________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andréas Hagström" Subject: (kw) Autobahn p/s Date: 02 Nov 1999 06:29:36 PST WHat kind of a car are they driving in? Its black and have black seats. T= he=20 driver=ABs mirror is directly attached to the controlpanel. Is this a VW,= some=20 other car or is it just an imaginary car? One interesting thing is that you can see Emil Schult face in a little=20 mirror on the left of the steering-wheel. The poet and the artist Schult = is=20 driving the band... very symbolic, dont you say... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dean" Subject: (kw) stockhausen Date: 02 Nov 1999 13:44:09 GMT In Tim Barr's book 'From Duesseldorf to the future - with love' he writes that Karlheinz Stockhausen was the 'first' Electric artist. I have heard that there were electric artists in the 20s. Please, can anybody tell me more and can anybody make CD-Rs of any of this stuff for me? I'm really interested. I have loadsa KW and some Krautrock & synth for trade... Matt Sellafield 2 will produce 7.5 tons of plutonium every year. 1.5 kilograms of plutonium make the nuclear bomb. Sellafield 2 will release the same amount of radioactivity into the environment as Chernobyl every 4.5 years. One of these radioactive substances, Krypton 85, will cause death and skin cancer. (Kraftwerk 1991, c 1991 Klingklang) sod that, visit me at www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palace/8922 !!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lon C Freeman Subject: (kw) unsubscribe address? Date: 02 Nov 1999 11:16:51 -0500 Anyone know who the admin of the KW list is? I've sent messages to 'kraftwerk-approval@lists.xmission.com' but get no response at all. (my address changed so I can't unsubscribe automatically). Thanks to anyone who can help! Lon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: richard.wojtak@which.net Subject: (kw) Tour de France Date: 02 Nov 1999 16:25:40 +0000 The TDF single has a video of the song (old black and white footage of the TDF). The same film used during Kraftwerks concerts. The mixes of the songs are the same as on the 12 inch single that came out in 1983 (which I still have). Same cover design. Does anyone have any info where I can download MP3s off Kraftwerks pre Autobahn albums? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno ." Subject: (kw) Business Abbreviations Date: 02 Nov 1999 23:30:25 GMT For a long time, I've seen little extensions on the end of record company names on the back of my favorite CD's : (ex: London Records "Ltd."; "Inc." ; etc.) I know where most of these are from, but can someone tell me what the follwing extensions actually mean ? : "GmBh" (Germany) "Pty." (Australia ?) "Pte." (Asia ?) "NV" (Belgium ?) "BV" (Netherlands ?) "KK" (Japan) "S.A." (France ?) "Srl" (Italy) I was just curious, as this is something that has been puzzling me for a long time. :-) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SRRecords@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) stockhausen Date: 02 Nov 1999 23:51:28 EST No - Stockhausen wasn't the first electric artist - Edgard Varese did electronic music with "poeme electronique" before him and Vladimir Ussachevsky did tape music in the very early 1950s. And John Cage did work with pre-recorded sounds as early as 1939 or so........Stockhausen didn't really do electronic music until his 'studies' - I don't know the exact years but they were after Varese.....Plus the Theremin and the Telharmonium (which was "electromechanical - not electronic) were out since the early part of the century as well - the later as early as the late 19th century....... Stockhausen - not the first, but very important nonetheless. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ullrich Peter Subject: AW: (kw) Business Abbreviations Date: 03 Nov 1999 08:12:28 +0100 >For a long time, I've seen little extensions on the end of record company >names on the back of my favorite CD's : > >(ex: London Records "Ltd."; "Inc." ; etc.) > >I know where most of these are from, but can someone tell me what the >follwing extensions actually mean ? : > >"GmBh" (Germany) It is GmbH and means: "company with limited liability" so it is the same as "Ltd." Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: http://come.to/ullrich or the full link http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3586/ Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician .oooO KAPSCH AG / ECCN Vienna / Austria ( ) Oooo. Traffic Control and Transmission Technology ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dirk jan müller" Subject: Re: (kw) "Tribal" = "Tango"?!?! Date: 03 Nov 1999 13:24:46 CET Jason Polland wrote: >The song played after "Airwaves" and the song played before "Music >Non-Stop" are the same song. Listen to them, you'll realize that it's the >same melodies, basslines, notes, et cetera. They just did two versions of >the same song using different instruments and arrangements. > > So, I imagine both songs are titled "Tribal". I never heard such a nonsense for a long time. "Tribal" and "Tango" are totally different. There are no melodies, basslines etc. which can be compared in any way! Dirk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Luca Dassi" Subject: R: (kw) Business Abbreviations Date: 03 Nov 1999 11:22:46 +0100 "Srl" (Italy) means "Societa' a responsabilita' limitata" so it is the same as "Ltd." or "GmbH" Ciao, *Luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno ." Subject: (kw) Pre-Autobahn MP3's Date: 03 Nov 1999 05:50:45 GMT This message is for Richard who was asking about the pre-Autobahn MP3's. I tried to send you mail four times, but I kept getting error messages saying that there was something wrong with your mail server administrator. Anyways, if you or anyone else wants the pre-Autobahn albums on MP3 (Tone Float, Kraftwerk, Kraftwerk 2, and Ralf & Florian), I have them on my hard drive, but you will only be able to get them from me through ICQ, as I don't have an FTP site. If any of you don't know what ICQ is, it's an instant messenger similar to AOL Instant Messenger or Microsoft Instant Messenger, although this one is easier to set up, and is better for file transfers. So just send me a note, and I'll be happy to give them to you. But be fairly quick about it since I will closing my account within the next week or so. :-) NoiseWerker - "For God So Loved The World He ICQ # 42651237 Created The Roland TB-303" Bless You All. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) stockhausen Date: 03 Nov 1999 17:38:36 +0000 on 2/11/99 1:44 pm, Matthew Dean at gb_not_eu@hotmail.com wrote: > > In Tim Barr's book 'From Duesseldorf to the future - with love' he > writes that Karlheinz Stockhausen was the 'first' Electric artist. No doubt Stocky would say so, but he would be incorrect. BTW, I'm currently reading 'From Duesseldorf...'. I'm finding it an enjoyable read, but the number of gratuitous (and sometimes spurious) references to Stockhausen is staggering! If Ralf has an egg for breakfast, it's a clear reference to Stockhausen, who once ate an egg too (OK, I exaggerate). And sometimes rhetoric overwhelms the facts ('Kometenmelodie 1' is atonal, with dissonant synthesisers? Rubbish: Mr Barr just liked the sounds of those words, surely!). The book could also have done with proofreaders with a passing acquaintance with French and German. Despite these gripes, so far it's an enjoyable read, as I say. Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephenv@sirius.com (stephen vesecky) Subject: Re: (kw) stockhausen Date: 02 Nov 1999 10:12:53 -0800 I recently read through 'From Duesseldorf...' again, and I remember enjoying it when i first read it, but now i really feel like it was a half-hearted attempt. apart from the lack of proofreading and the silly namedropping, it seems to me there was an overall lack of thought given to the project. Several stabs are made to try and express what makes kraftwerk special to their fans, but they miss the mark, i feel. i guess i just feel like i could've done better. stephen >> In Tim Barr's book 'From Duesseldorf to the future - with love' he >> writes that Karlheinz Stockhausen was the 'first' Electric artist. > >No doubt Stocky would say so, but he would be incorrect. > >BTW, I'm currently reading 'From Duesseldorf...'. I'm finding it an >enjoyable read, but the number of gratuitous (and sometimes spurious) >references to Stockhausen is staggering! If Ralf has an egg for breakfast, >it's a clear reference to Stockhausen, who once ate an egg too (OK, I >exaggerate). And sometimes rhetoric overwhelms the facts ('Kometenmelodie 1' >is atonal, with dissonant synthesisers? Rubbish: Mr Barr just liked the >sounds of those words, surely!). The book could also have done with >proofreaders with a passing acquaintance with French and German. Despite >these gripes, so far it's an enjoyable read, as I say. > >Kevin > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nowhere000@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) "Tribal" = "Tango"?!?! Date: 03 Nov 1999 13:32:24 EST In a message dated 11/3/99 12:10:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, dirkjm99@hotmail.com writes: << I never heard such a nonsense for a long time. "Tribal" and "Tango" are totally different. There are no melodies, basslines etc. which can be compared in any way! >> Really do you know anything about music? B A# A G E- try playing that on your casio folks it's the melodic ark of all three of the "new" tracks NP: Autechre remix of "the kW mailing list is shit " # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: RE: (kw) Pre-Autobahn MP3's Date: 03 Nov 1999 14:07:01 -0500 ] hard drive, but you will only be able to get them from me ] through ICQ, as I don't have an FTP site. i have them all on my server, http://www.wettin.com/mp3 karl\ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) Ultra Rare Trax Vol 2 Date: 03 Nov 1999 12:56:03 -0700 1. Tour de France (Kevorkian Remix) 2. Radioactivity (William Orbit Remix) 3. Techno Pop (1983 Demo) 4. Les Mannequins (Original 1978 ext. French Remix) 5. Electric Cafe (Mix-It Remix) 6. Sex Object (Razormaid mix) 7. The Telephone Call (Razormaid mix) 8. Computerwelt (Razormaid mix) 9. The Robots (Ultimix) 10. Pocket Calculator (Mix-It Remix) Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) stockhausen Date: 03 Nov 1999 19:57:09 +0000 stephen vesecky wrote: > Several stabs are made to try and express what makes kraftwerk special to > their fans, but they miss the mark, i feel. Good point. It's almost as if the members of Kraftwerk are offstage; shadowy figures influencing the main characters but of little reality themselves?! > i guess i just feel like i could've done better. I think the reason that I'm reluctant to be critical is that I know I couldn't! Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97fm" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) Searching Rarities Date: 03 Nov 1999 19:40:43 -0200 Dear " werkers " I am looking for Disks of live Vinyl of Kraftwerk. I know that this material is very rare, but I want to try... If you have live of vinyl of KRAFTWERK disks for to negotiate, please, enter in contact with me. I can buy or to Change for Rare Videos of KRAFTWERK. Thank you Eduardo Monteiro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KL Subject: (kw) Re: Doepfer/Kraftwerk hardware demonstrations Date: 03 Nov 1999 14:11:39 -0800 (PST) Greetings all members: You may now hear some interesting mp3 audio format demonstrations I have created for Doepfer specifically. These are tests of some of the Doepfer equipment that Kraftwerk is known to use. http://www.doepfer.com Kind regards, Kevin Lux If you still have not gotton a chance to hear my Kraftwerk cover songs, please feel free to stop by: http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com/KW.htm The next song in this series is already in production now! ===== http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) RELICS Date: 03 Nov 1999 15:47:38 -0700 KW is offering a "Roboter Skateboard" for DM 195.00 The Beatles offers a "Yellow Submarine Snowboard" for US$ 399.00 I can't wait for a "Jack-Ass gear, attire and accessories for your skates" from Beck Enrique NP: "This note's for you" Neil Young and The Bluenotes & "We're Only in It for the money" Frank Zappa (another Stockhausen, Varese devotee) and The Mothers of Invention. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com Subject: Re: R: (kw) Business Abbreviations Date: 03 Nov 1999 13:20:34 -0500 >>> "Srl" (Italy) means "Societa' a responsabilita' limitata" so it is the same as "Ltd." or "GmbH" <<< In the USA, there's now a new abbreviation, LLC, for limited liability company. Pvt. used in India as well as Australia. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADivakaran@aol.com Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #351 Date: 03 Nov 1999 21:50:21 EST In a message dated 11/3/99 12:09:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: > BTW, I'm currently reading 'From Duesseldorf...'. I'm finding it an > enjoyable read, but the number of gratuitous (and sometimes spurious) > references to Stockhausen is staggering! If Ralf has an egg for breakfast, > it's a clear reference to Stockhausen, who once ate an egg too (OK, I > exaggerate). And sometimes rhetoric overwhelms the facts ('Kometenmelodie 1' > is atonal, with dissonant synthesisers? Rubbish: Mr Barr just liked the > sounds of those words, surely!). The book could also have done with > proofreaders with a passing acquaintance with French and German. Despite > these gripes, so far it's an enjoyable read, as I say. > > Kevin not too bad, i agree, but i have to admit to much preferring pascal bussy's breezy economical style to the sometimes overwrought pomposity of barr. the number of times he refers to what KW were doing as "strategies"... erm :-) ashok # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADivakaran@aol.com Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #351 Date: 03 Nov 1999 21:58:18 EST In a message dated 11/3/99 12:09:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: > > * what is his best album? > > historic edition > > > * which album should be recommended to discover his > > music? > > same as above > > tom w hey tom, you think a schulze newbie is going to nonchalantly shell out $150 to "discover" him? :-) easily the best place to start with schulze is the 2-cd retrospective put out by caroline recs not too long ago. it covers everything from the early dissonant droney stuff, through the beautiful analog synth journeys of the 70s, and onto the sterile nonsense he's currently pumping out by the truckload. that last comment by no means invalidates the high esteem in which i hold his earlier stuff, though, and a lot of the caroline retroscpective covers just that. make no mistake, schulze is one of the greats of electronic music. as someone else mentioned, "audentity" is the most kraftwerk-like disc schulze did. abstract, repetitive beatbox patterns and some fascinating aural tapestries. he's also been gettin' it on in a big way with pete namlook recently - try any of the "dark side of the moog" releases on the fax label for a taste of contemporary KS techno-stylee. a general rule - anything he did after '87 or so is not really recommended. digital-synth-preset overload is the name of the game here. ashok # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: (kw) Mouse on Mars Date: 04 Nov 1999 11:45:42 +0100 Hi, the 7 of november here in Milan there will be the performance of Mouse on Mars + Oval, and I will go to the concert. As I don't know them, could anyone please tell me something about their story / music? Write me privately, thanx in advance. Didi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: Re: (kw) track listing Date: 04 Nov 1999 11:34:03 +0100 At 22.07 02/11/99 +0100, Arnaud de Bonald wrote: > >Hi, >Could someone tell me the track listing of the bootleg Ultra Rare Trax Vol 2 >(10 Rare Tracks) >Thanks, >Arnaud 1) Tour de France (Kevorkian Remix) 2) Radioactivity (William Orbit Remix) 3) Techno Pop (1983 version) 4) Les mannequins (Original 1978 ext. French remix) 5) Electric cafe (Mix-it Remix) 6) Sex object (Razormaid mix) 7) The telephone call (Razormaid mix) 8) Computerwelt (Razormaid mix) 9) The Robots (Ultimix) 10) Pocket calculator (Mix-it Remix) It's a good item but, in my personal opinion, not as good as Ultra Rare Trax vol.1. I hope it helps you, Didi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: (kw) KS Web Site Date: 04 Nov 1999 14:34:39 +0100 Is there any Klaus Schulze web site? I am not able to find anyone. Thanx, Didi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: Re: (kw) "Tribal" = "Tango"?!?! Date: 04 Nov 1999 14:27:54 +0100 At 13.32 03/11/99 -0500, Nowhere000@aol.com wrote: >NP: Autechre remix of "the kW mailing list is shit " What is it?????? Thanx, Didi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tadream" Subject: (kw) Tour de France MCD Date: 04 Nov 1999 10:48:10 +0100 just out of my curiosity.... yesterday, i ordered the TDF CD at CyberCD www.cybercd.de does anyone know why the price for the CD with 4 tracks plus 2 mixes and video is 18.95 DM and the price for the CD with just 4 tracks and video is 29.95 DM ? seems to me like it should be the opposite thnx tadream # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: thomas m weibrecht Subject: Re: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #351 Date: 04 Nov 1999 10:01:44 -0500 On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:58:18 EST ADivakaran@aol.com writes: > > In a message dated 11/3/99 12:09:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, > owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: > > > > * what is his best album? > > > > historic edition > > > > > * which album should be recommended to discover his > > > music? > > > > same as above > > > > tom w > > hey tom, you think a schulze newbie is going to nonchalantly shell > out $150 > to "discover" him? :-) sure...why not? it isnt like your gonna be spending $ 150 on kraftwerk any time soon...plus you'll get a timeless collectible. tom w np: damo suzuki network - seattle ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andréas Hagström" Subject: (kw) p/s analysis Date: 04 Nov 1999 07:41:58 PST On my homepage I have put analysis of three KW p/s. Autobahn 1974, the=20 CDedition of Autobahn and the CDedition of TEE. Unfortunately they are in swedish but someday I hope I will translate the= m. http://www.foto.gu.se/student/andreas_h/texter.html I hope you enjoy them. /Andr=E9as ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Gartner Subject: Re: (kw) KS Web Site Date: 04 Nov 1999 13:10:53 -0500 > Is there any Klaus Schulze web site? > I am not able to find anyone. Didja try http://www.klaus-schulze.com/ ? ;) Boing Boom Tschak! -ericg- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "machina" Subject: (kw) KS web site Date: 04 Nov 1999 19:15:19 +0000 the official Klaus Schulze website can be found under the URL: http://www.klaus-schulze.com Claudio Claudio G. Chiriatti e-mail:chir3301@uni-trier.de ex machina http://www.iee.tu-clausthal.de/~info/pc00/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Mills Subject: (kw) Sex Object Date: 04 Nov 1999 16:17:11 -0000 According to the latest version of the KW discography (the one Klaus Zaepke has a hand in), there's a 7:41 version of Sex Object (editted by Joseph Watt). Does anyone know anything about this - is it official ? Where can we get hold of it????? Regards Paul Mills paulm@intercell.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nat Heidler" Subject: (kw) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:37:50 -0600 Date: 04 Nov 1999 12:42:27 -0700 www.dancegrooves.com has TDF in 12" vinyl. I guess they are not fans since they call it "Tour the France" Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thorsten_H@t-online.de (Thorsten) Subject: (kw) tour dates? Date: 04 Nov 1999 21:04:37 +0100 Hi, maybe to most of you this seems to be a silly question, but I'd like to know the tour dates of future Kraftwerk- concerts. I tried the Kraftwerk.com page, but there's only an overview with no dates, and don't know If there are any concerts in Germany in the next time. (If anyone has information about the EXPO concert, i would be very happy to know about.) Greetings, Thorsten P.S.: If anyone has Kraftwerk 2 or Ralf und Florian on LP for sale, or if you know where I can get them, please mail me. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Sex Object Date: 04 Nov 1999 21:48:05 +0000 > According to the latest version of the KW discography (the one Klaus Zaepke > has a hand in), there's a 7:41 version of Sex Object (editted by Joseph > Watt). > Does anyone know anything about this - is it official ? Yes, it's official in the way that it was published on an official (legal) Warner Promo CD. > Where can we get hold of it????? "Hit It", Warner Promo CD, PRO-CD-2753. It is also featured on various bootlegs and Razormaid DJ releases, titled "Razormaid Remix" or similar. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) tour dates? Date: 04 Nov 1999 14:21:06 -0700 Thorsten wrote: >maybe to most of you this seems to be a silly question, but I'd like to >know the tour dates of future Kraftwerk- concerts. I tried the >Kraftwerk.com page, but there's only an overview with no dates I don't know of any dates, other than the one over at the EXPO next year. For future reference, you can follow this link: http://www.pollstar.com/homenf.htm That's a very handy and useful search engine for tour information. Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "davethewave@excite.com" Subject: (kw) questions!!! Date: 04 Nov 1999 13:36:29 PST ok you krafbots!!! let see if any of you guys and gals(maybe) can help me with a couple of questions 1/ does anyone know of a good website for buying kraftwerk bootlegs? 2/will wolfgangs book ever see uk print? 3/does anyone know whats happend to ian calder? he's the guy that does the aktivitat website. i've known him about 5 years but since he moved down south i lost touch.are you out there ian???????? ________________________________________________________________ Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: Re: (kw) Tour de France MCD Date: 05 Nov 1999 09:34:28 +1100 tadream wrote: > > just out of my curiosity.... > yesterday, i ordered the TDF CD at CyberCD > www.cybercd.de > the CD with 4 tracks plus 2 mixes and video is 18.95 DM can anybody confirm the actual existence of the 6 track + video release? and if yes, what are the extra 2 tracks? thanks Vladimir # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Mills Subject: (kw) Showroom Dummies remix Date: 04 Nov 1999 16:12:17 -0000 Hi Werkers - I'm looking for the 2:38 remix of Showroom Dummies - I think it was the b-side of the 1981 Numbers single, and is supposed to be different from the 1977 version we all know and love. Has anyone got an mp3 of this ?????????? Regards Paul Mills paulm@intercell.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) Tour de France MCD Date: 05 Nov 1999 07:45:05 +0100 (MET) > > yesterday, i ordered the TDF CD at CyberCD > > www.cybercd.de > > the CD with 4 tracks plus 2 mixes and video is 18.95 DM > > can anybody confirm the actual existence of the 6 track + video > release? No, it doesn't exist. The info at cybercd.de must be read as "4 tracks INCL. 2 mixes and video". Klaus Zaepke -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lemmens Geert Subject: (kw) klaus schulze Date: 05 Nov 1999 01:13:03 -0800 (PST) a few days ago, someone asked if there is a website about schulze. the official page is at http://www.klaus-schultze.com skylined ===== "Make popular programs good and good programs popular." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fredrik =?iso-8859-1?Q?F=E4llman?= Subject: Re: (kw) Autobahn p/s Date: 05 Nov 1999 14:10:08 +0100 Andreas Hagstr=F6m wrote about the original Autobahn cover a few days ago. If you would have read Wolfgang's book (page 74) you would know that actually Emil's face was to be on the back cover and he was originally on that photograph since they still were not sure if Wolfgang would stay in the group. If you look carefully you can see that Wolfgangs head has been put there later. Therefore you have Emil's face in the side mirror. I agree that it could have been symbolic, and as Wolfgang writes Emil was essential to keep the spirits up, especially during touring, but also as an artistic collaborator. =46redrik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Neum=E1ticos_Vulcano=2C_S.L.?=" Subject: (kw) The Model in Spanish Radio Date: 05 Nov 1999 11:10:23 +0100 On November 1st it can be listen The Model in M80 Radio, a radio station from Spain. The radio programme was dedicated to the New Romantics age. The announcer said that Kraftwerk haven't got to do with that music movement but The Model is "an inquestionable classic of the contemporary music". He also refered to Kraftwerk as 'The Beatles of Techno'. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Details for EXPO 2000 CD single Date: 05 Nov 1999 19:12:53 +0000 The EMI WWW pages have now some details about the forthcoming "EXPO 2000" single release at http://www.emimusic.de/labels/35/artists/500021/track8879842.html : Kraftwerk - Expo 2000 Format: CD single Catalogue number: 8879842 Tracklisting: 1. Expo 2000 2. Expo 2000 3. Expo 2000 4. Expo 2000 Release date: 06.12.1999. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: (kw) Off-Topic: Wendy Carlos Date: 05 Nov 1999 14:55:27 -0500 If anyone is interested... Recently (29 Oct) the "Switched-On Boxed Set" has been released. For Wendy Carlos fans, this is a must-have. Not merely remastered, but remade from the original tapes. Four enhanced CDs with extensive notes (two little books), plus commentary from Wendy herself (I never heard her voice before; now I have.) Haven't had a chance to go through it completely, but I love it so far. If your local record store doesn't have it, I bought mine from amazon.com Huggy Bear # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elekktro@aol.com Subject: (kw) Showroom Dummies remix Date: 05 Nov 1999 17:08:46 EST On November 5th Paul Mills was looking for the 2:38 remix of Showroom Dummies: This track is included on the following bootleg: KRAFTWERK: WERKE WESTWOOD ONE-RARITIES ON COMPACT DISC VOL. 55 Greetings Elekktro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dirk jan müller" Subject: Re: (kw) "Tribal" = "Tango"?!?! Date: 05 Nov 1999 12:07:21 CET Nowhere000@aol.com wrote: >Really do you know anything about music? Yes, i do. I am a producer and I do this now for over 10 years. >B A# A G E- try playing that on your casio folks it's the melodic ar= k=20 >of >all three of the "new" tracks > So, my new experience is now, that every Melody that got a note followed = by=20 a halftone sounds the same. Interesting. That means that Heimcomputer, The Model, Radioactivity etc. have the same= =20 melody ark. Sad thing that KRAFTWERK only do the same songs on every reco= rd.=20 I didn=B4t noticed that until today. Dirk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) EXPO 2000 CD date-locked? Date: 05 Nov 1999 12:54:16 +0100 Not likely - a date locking mechanism would need some kind of software being distributed with the CD and run on the computer. This software would have to be able to run on several computing platforms (Wintel, Mac, Java, Unix and so on). As you perhaps have read in earlier posts the CD is formatted as an Audio-CD, which means it only contains sampled sound, stored in digital form. Also, there's only one "track" (session) on it. Of course an "virus-like" way of distributing a date-lock is (theoretically) possible, but the technical obstacles are quite high. /Joakim -----Original Message----- ...can the CD or the data be date-locked. can something be encrypted into it so that it can not be opened until a specific date and time... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephenv@sirius.com (stephen vesecky) Date: 04 Nov 1999 23:11:49 -0800 >So, my new experience is now, that every Melody that got a note followed by >a halftone sounds the same. Interesting. >That means that Heimcomputer, The Model, Radioactivity etc. have the same >melody ark. Sad thing that KRAFTWERK only do the same songs on every record= . >I didn=A5t noticed that until today. > >Dirk It's true, i've found so many of the same, or nearly the same parts, repeated on the different records. my favorites: the opening synthesizer part on 'trans-europe express' finds its genesis on the opening flute part of 'ruckzuck' from kraftwerk 1. the second synth melody from 'trans-europe express' is similar to the riff from 'electric cafe' title track. the synth parts on 'the robots' is clearly descended from 'showroom dummies'= . i imagine kraftwerk rationalize this to themselves by saying, 'well, it's all part of our warholian aesthetic'. another question is, why do i care? well, i guess i'm just obsessed. stephen > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Mills Subject: (kw) Orbit remixes of Radioactivity/Radioaktivitat Date: 06 Nov 1999 10:16:11 -0000 Can any one tell me if there is any difference other than in the name of the Orbit (and possibly Kevorkian) 12" remixes of Radioactivity and Radioaktivitat. Radioactivity goes into the German language vocal about half way through, does Radioaktivitat start in German and then go into the English or is it the same ??? Cheers Paul Mills paulm@intercell.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Off-Topic: Wendy Carlos Date: 06 Nov 1999 11:59:49 +0100 On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:55:27 -0500, Huggy Bear wrote: >If your local record store doesn't have it, I bought mine from amazon.com For people in Europe, it's probably cheaper to order it from CDZone, because since it's a box set, shipping charges from USA may be expensive. www.cdzone.co.uk. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Pre-Autobahn MP3's Date: 06 Nov 1999 12:54:10 +0100 The KW early albums are also still available on my friend's FTP server where I uploaded them some times ago. 194.57.60.73, user & pass: skyfox # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Czibor Subject: (kw) Records from sale from my collection Date: 06 Nov 1999 18:41:06 +0100 Hi, I have a lot of CDs and vinyl records for sale from my collection, covering a lot of different electronic styles: techno, house, ambient, electronic body music, some samplers... Please go to http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6297/venta_eng.txt to see a full listing. Thanks, Carlos. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno ." Subject: (kw) ZKM 1997 Date: 07 Nov 1999 11:25:33 GMT One question : Was the ZKM 1997 show the same thing as the Karlsruhe 1997 show ? I always get the two confused. ;-) NoiseWerker - "For God So Loved The World He ICQ # 42651237 Created The Roland TB-303" Bless You All. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Evans Subject: (kw) Greetings and looking for 1998 tour bootlegs Date: 07 Nov 1999 23:24:47 -0500 (EST) Hi, all. I'm in Canada and have linked Kraftwerk for quite a while. I've never been a "die hard" fan but I usually grab stuff that I don't have when I see it. I'm proud of the '90s vynal "Robots" and "Radioactivity" singles I got in the UK for about 2 pounds each. :) Anyway, I imagine that this is a horrible FAQ buit can anyone point me to where I could obtain a copy of one of the '98 tour bootlegs? Which is the best of the three? It would be a fun thing to have since I enjoyed the show so much (I was at the one in Detroit). -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "polbox" Subject: (kw) KW videos Date: 08 Nov 1999 10:01:49 +0100 can someone point me again to the page with KW videos (the url posted a couple of weeks ago contained the new KW song video among others) tnxs in advance tadream # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: (kw) Rio Date: 08 Nov 1999 11:08:16 +0100 To all brazilians into electronic music: Probably at the end of november I'll be in Rio. I would like to know addresses of clubs and shops about electronic music. More, if anyone of you lives in Rio or San Paulo (which probably I'll be visiting) I am interested in meet and know eachother. Mail me privately, thank you. Didi Milan - PDN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) KW videos Date: 08 Nov 1999 08:01:58 -0700 >can someone point me again to the page with KW videos >(the url posted a couple of weeks ago contained the new >KW song video among others) tnxs in advance >tadream The KW Media Center has been relocated to: http://key.madison.tec.wi.us/kraftwerk-media-center/ N-joy Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KL Subject: (kw) Kevin Lux Kraftwerk cover update! Date: 08 Nov 1999 07:30:03 -0800 (PST) Greetings all members: I have now completed and posted my 2nd in the series of projects of Kraftwerk cover songs. This is my gift to all members on this list and tribute to the band we all enjoy so much. I want you to know, I have so much fun being able to entertain so many people. This is only the beginning. I present, "It's more fun to compute". http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com/KW.htm Also, please visit my main sites, which are linked to this page. Please let me know your feedback, as your comments motivate me to do more ! Judging by my past statistics from the Europe Endless covers, the site will be bogged down for some time. I plan to use these high numeric statistics as proof of demand for my works, in my hunt for a record label. Musically yours, Kevin Lux robotkl@earthlink.net http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com\ http://www.mp3.com/kevinlux __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juan Vega" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk en Tv Date: 08 Nov 1999 17:40:21 -0300 Hola KW fans de Argentina Hoy 08/11/99 a las 22:00 horas en el canal People + arts, pasaran la historia de la musica electronica, en la presentacion del programa hacen referencia a Kraftwerk. Chau kraft-amigos Juan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elekktro@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) ZKM 1997 Date: 08 Nov 1999 17:00:10 EST The show in Karlsruhe 1997 took place in the ZKM (Zentrum f=FCr Kunst und=20 Medientechnologie) so it's just the same show (and I was there ...). Greetings Elekktro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) Vote for Kraftwerk - "Artist of the century"! Date: 08 Nov 1999 23:40:19 +0100 The austrian magazine NEWS hast just started an online-election to find out the "Artist of the century". Please check out this URL and vote: http://194.96.205.40/networld/channels/home/interpretenwahl.asp Evering is in german, I know, but you can't miss: Just follow this instruction: There you have to click the >1 Button, starting from position 50, till you reach Kraftwerk. Kraftwerk keeps position 9 at the moment, between U2 and Freddie mecury. Important: You can vote as often as you vote, so do - please take some time ;-)! Let's make Kraftwerk the "Artist of the centuty" ;-)! Greets, Georgie -- * "Synthetic electronic sounds, industrial rhythms all around..." * * ...heute Abend aus Deutschland: KRAFTWERK * * Georg Jajus - Vienna - Austria * * * http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * phone & SMS: +436765621850 * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) Details for EXPO 2000 CD single Date: 09 Nov 1999 07:47:46 -0700 Klaus Zaepke wrote: >The EMI WWW pages have now some details about the forthcoming >"EXPO 2000" single release at >http://www.emimusic.de/labels/35/artists/500021/track8879842.html : If you are having problems with this link (like myself) try to search in their homepage's (http://www.emimusic.de/) pop section for the title EXPO 2000, and voila, the cover of the next KW maxi CD will appear! (at least this one won't have everybody going nuts about who's face is in a old car's rearview mirror). What in the hell kind of mixes can you make out of that crap? I guess we're gonna have to wait until December to find out... Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Sundkvist" Subject: Re: (kw) Vote for Kraftwerk - "Artist of the century"! Date: 09 Nov 1999 09:33:53 CET Now they are first, but Bob Marley is very, very close. Come on all listmembers and vote! /Erik ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Sundkvist" Subject: Re: (kw) Vote for Kraftwerk - "Artist of the century"! Date: 09 Nov 1999 09:33:53 CET Now they are first, but Bob Marley is very, very close. Come on all listmembers and vote! /Erik ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "communi-care" Subject: (kw) an evening with wolfgang fluer / ein abend mit wolfgang fl Date: 09 Nov 1999 17:01:58 +0200 "ich war ein roboter"-=FCber diese epoche seines lebens und dar=FCber hinaus erz=E4hlt wolfgang fl=FCr und zeigt interessante videos am 07-12-1999 um 20h im ZAKK (d=FCsseldorf, ZAKK, fichtenstra=DFe 40, fon. 0211-937 00 10, DM 10,-). aus dem neuesten sachbuch "einsweilige verf=FCgung" (auftragsarbeit von ralf und florian) gibt wolfgang fl=FCr pikantes und am=FCsantes bekannt. "i was a robot"-wolfgang fl=FCr tells about this epoche of his life and further experiences of his artistic career and he shows interesting videos. date. tuesday, 07-12-99 , ZAKK, D=FCsseldorf, fichtenstra=DFe 40, fon. 0211-937 00 10, DM 10,- he also reads out of the newest interim order (commissioned work of ralf an= d florian) delicate and amusing chapters. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: joarg@hsr.no (Joar Grimstvedt) Subject: (kw) Johann Zambryski Date: 09 Nov 1999 18:58:38 +0100 A message in an Enigma message board, http://users2.cgiforme.com/enigmamusic.com/messages/252.html, shows that one of the artists Johann Zambryski has made artwork for is Kraftwerk. With the cover of the Expo 2000 single just revealed (a great cover!), that must have been him. Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt, joarg@hsr.no /// WWW: Enigma/Sandra http://www.five.no/joarg/ /// Eschew obfuscation. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Singels Date: 09 Nov 1999 13:57:31 -0500 i just received what seems to be radioactivity and the robots singels. the runtime on the songs are: die roboter: 01 - 3:44 02 - 7:44 03 - 4:53 radioactivit=E4t: 01 - 4:12 02 - 7:28 03 - 7:23 are these the original singles? why in the h-ll didnt they put these versions on the records? they kick the lp version of the songs butt bigtime. they are FAT :) i just can't belive that these versions are kraftwerk originals from the seventies. although, i don't doubt that they should be able to do something this good back then, i just think its wierd that they didt put these versions on the lp. ill make them available on my site at; http://www.wettin.com/mp3 karl\ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: thomas m weibrecht Subject: Re: (kw) Vote for Kraftwerk - "Artist of the century"! Date: 09 Nov 1999 14:14:08 -0500 On Tue, 09 Nov 1999 09:33:53 CET "Erik Sundkvist" writes: > > Now they are first, but Bob Marley is very, very close. Come on all > listmembers and vote! > yeah...for Bob...hands down... tom w np: legend ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Singels Date: 09 Nov 1999 11:32:06 -0800 > i just received what seems to be radioactivity and > the robots singels. the runtime on the songs are: > > die roboter: > 01 - 3:44 > 02 - 7:44 > 03 - 4:53 > > radioactivit=E4t: > 01 - 4:12 > 02 - 7:28 > 03 - 7:23 > > are these the original singles? why in the h-ll didnt > they put these versions on the records? I believe you have the two singles released for "The Mix," which came out in 1991. ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Expo Single Date: 09 Nov 1999 21:43:28 -0000 Well everyone, the sleeve looks mighty fine- and mirrors the Expo site's animation. Lets hope the music's up to scratch. I hope it vindicates my opinion of a couple of months back. I felt at the time that the jingle was a vocal track without a backing. I've ordered it already from Bigbag. Has anyone spotted any British press about this or will EMI UK be taken by surprise as usual? Paul (Hi Didi-long time no speak. I hope you are well) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) Man Machine - Centenary Edit Date: 09 Nov 1999 23:15:48 +0100 A Kraftwerk "Man machine - Centenary Edit" is offered at www.lion.cc: MAN MACHINE (CENTENARY EDIT) KRAFTWERK Ausgabe ENG / erschienen 21-OCT-99 Does anybody know what's special about this CD/has anybody got it? Greets, Georgie -- * "Synthetic electronic sounds, industrial rhythms all around..." * * Heute Abend aus Deutschland: Die Mensch-Maschine - KRAFTWERK * * Georg Jajus (Vienna, Austria) phone + SMS: +436765621850 * * ICQ: 53829477 http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren@bway.net (darren) Subject: Re: (kw) Expo Single Date: 09 Nov 1999 20:42:52 -0400 I have been trying all day to see this picture, but can't connect to emimusic.com. Could some kind person put it up at another location? darren >Well everyone, the sleeve looks mighty fine- and mirrors the Expo site's >animation. Lets hope the music's up to scratch. I hope it vindicates my >opinion of a couple of months back. I felt at the time that the jingle was >a vocal track without a backing. I've ordered it already from Bigbag. > >Has anyone spotted any British press about this or will EMI UK be taken by >surprise as usual? > > >Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Vote for Kraftwerk - "Artist of the century"! Date: 10 Nov 1999 02:46:34 +0100 >The austrian magazine NEWS hast just started an online-election to find >out the "Artist of the century". >http://194.96.205.40/networld/channels/home/interpretenwahl.asp hey, it seem thay are first now! but there is something strange with the voting, because my single vote added two points, another attempt added three... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno ." Subject: (kw) RE : Kraftwerk Singles Date: 09 Nov 1999 20:48:47 GMT Hey Karl !!! Here's the info on the singles : 1) Radioactivity (Mix Version): Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's the UK CD5 (EMI CDEM 201) according to the times; if so, then the info on Lazlo's discog needs to be updated as some of the tracks are mislabeled. 4:12 - Radioaktivitat (Francois Kevorkian's 7" Remix) 7:27 - Radioactivity (Francois Kevorkian's 12" Remix) 7:23 - Radioactivity (William Orbit's 12" Remix) 2) Die Roboter/The Robots (Mix Version): I can think of three possible releases : US 12" or CD5 on Elektra GE CD5 on EMI UK CD5 on EMI Once again, Lazlo's discog is a bit confusing on this one. 1 - Die Roboter (The Mix Single Edit) OR *Robotronik (7" Edit ????) (3:44) 2 - Robotnik (7:44) 3 - Robotronik (Kling Klang Mix) (4:53) * I have an MP3 of Robotronik which is edited down to this time. Does it exist anywhere ? I don't see it listed in Lazlo's Discog (TIME FOR AN UPDATE !!!!). NoiseWerker - "For God So Loved The World He ICQ # 42651237 Created The Roland TB-303" Bless You All. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno ." Subject: (kw) An Early Farewell :-( Date: 09 Nov 1999 17:48:29 GMT Hello everyone !!!! :-) As I have one week left before I leave for the black pit of despair which is Basic Military Training (lol), I just wanted to give an early goodbye to everyone on all four of my favorite lists. You have all been very fun and interesting people to chat with, teaching me many valuable things regarding the love of music and technology. I will definitely miss all of the silly flame wars and annoying post questions that had been mentioned fifty million times before (;-) . It felt damn good to be part of four groups of individuals who respect the masters of the music game the same way that I do. I don't know for sure when I'll be back online; maybe within the next three to six months. I really have no idea what the fuck the future holds, but so far I see plenty of recording, traveling, and meeting lots of new people. If I get to be stationed in Germany, I might plan on bringing some friends over to see Kraftwerk at Expo 2000. Anyways, I want to keep it short and sweet, so let me just say that I love all you guys and that I will miss you all very much from the bottom of my heart. God Bless all of you forever. :-) Josh E. (Juno) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dirk Wied" Subject: (kw) covers Date: 09 Nov 1999 22:54:04 +0100 hello, looking for good quality scaned pictures of the first three KW (+ the organisation cd) cd's. if possible incl. innersleeves and full bookleds. thanx a lot dirk.wied@sh-home.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael LaVella" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk on 8 track tape Date: 09 Nov 1999 20:01:47 PST Hello Werkers I'm very interested in finding out exactly what Kraftwerk releases are available on 8 track. To me, Kraftwerk, a band obviously years ahead of their time, released on this outdated and obsolete format is just too ironic! So far I have Autobaun and Trans-Europe Express, I also have Ralf and Florian (sealed on less!) coming from Klaus Zapke that I "won" on ebay. I know that The Man Machine exists, because it was also on ebay but someone outbid me in the last seconds. So, if anyone has any info (or especially any they want to sale!) please contact me. Mike LaVella gearheaditor@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: RE: (kw) Vote for Kraftwerk - "Artist of the century"! Date: 10 Nov 1999 10:01:45 +0100 >The austrian magazine NEWS hast just started an online-election to find >out the "Artist of the century"=2E >http://194=2E96=2E205=2E40/networld/channels/home/interpretenwahl=2Easp hey, it seem thay are first now! Well, it seems that John Lennons mailinglist got info about the vote, now he=20= is running past our boys=2E=2E=2E Grrrrr Come on and vote guys! /Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: (kw) Kevin Lux Kraftwerk cover update! Date: 10 Nov 1999 11:53:36 +0100 Great going, Kevin! I love the bass in the beginning - it's carving steel. I've only heard half of the song (my connection to the Internet is kind of slow...) but I will get the rest tomorrow. You truly increase the expectations for your next cover! /Joakim -----Original Message----- ...I present, "It's more fun to compute"... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: (kw) Kevin Lux Kraftwerk cover update! Date: 10 Nov 1999 11:53:36 +0100 Great going, Kevin! I love the bass in the beginning - it's carving steel. I've only heard half of the song (my connection to the Internet is kind of slow...) but I will get the rest tomorrow. You truly increase the expectations for your next cover! /Joakim -----Original Message----- ...I present, "It's more fun to compute"... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Stockhausen Date: 10 Nov 1999 15:30:39 +0100 >In Tim Barr's book 'From Duesseldorf to the future - with love' he >writes that Karlheinz Stockhausen was the 'first' Electric artist. >I have heard that there were electric artists in the 20s. Please, >can anybody tell me more and can anybody make CD-Rs of any of this >stuff for me? I'm really interested. I have loadsa KW and some >Krautrock & synth for trade... >No - Stockhausen wasn't the first electric artist - Edgard Varese did >electronic music with "poeme electronique" before him and Vladimir >Ussachevsky did tape music in the very early 1950s. And John Cage did w= ork >with pre-recorded sounds as early as 1939 or so........Stockhausen didn'= t >really do electronic music until his 'studies' - I don't know the exact >years but they were after Varese.....Plus the Theremin and the Telharmon= ium >(which was "electromechanical - not electronic) were out since the early part of >the century as well - the later as early as the late 19th century....... It's curious to recognize that it was Pitagoras the first one who established the foundations of the electronic music. His study about the vibration of the strings, for example, dominated the evolution of the theoretical music until the XVII century, and it was prevailing until the XIX century. Electronic music has its origins in the musique concr=E8te, but taking its ideas from another point of view, by synthesis instead of analysis, a= nd generally very simples sounds from perfectly controlable electronic elements. The first electronic music studio was born in the premises of the Radio o= f Cologne in 1953, as result of the collaboration between the composer and theoretician dodecafonist Herbert Eimert and the acoustic physicist Meyer Eppler. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oleg Rekutin Subject: Re[2]: (kw) Vote for Kraftwerk - "Artist of the century"! Date: 10 Nov 1999 09:35:11 -0500 >>The austrian magazine NEWS hast just started an online-election to find >>out the "Artist of the century". >>http://194.96.205.40/networld/channels/home/interpretenwahl.asp Kraftwerk is in the FIFTH place now: please vote! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KL Subject: Re: (kw) Kevin Lux Kraftwerk cover update! Date: 10 Nov 1999 06:49:55 -0800 (PST) Thank you Joakim, for the fine compliment. This touches me. I really wanted to try to "capture" some of the spirit of the real song although in my picky opinion, nothing will match the real thing. I only attempt a tribute at such. I wish there was a way to "legally" get this and others on a CD that can be marketed properly. I really want these covers to be tested on the dancefloors across Europe and the world. Does anyone on the list have any marketing ideas or access to DJ's at dance clubs? Please email me privetely on this, to not bog down this list. Thank you. Sincerely, Kevin Lux --- "Svensson, Joakim" wrote: > Great going, Kevin! I love the bass in the beginning > - it's carving steel. > I've only heard half of the song (my connection to > the Internet is kind of > slow...) but I will get the rest tomorrow. > You truly increase the expectations for your next > cover! > > /Joakim > > -----Original Message----- > ...I present, "It's more fun to compute"... > ===== http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Paul=20Martland?= Subject: (kw) Man Machine Centenary Edition Date: 10 Nov 1999 09:45:46 +0000 (GMT) Georg Jaus asked about the centenary edition of man machine. In 1997 EMI celebrated its 100th anniversary. One of the releases trumpeted was the Man Machine centenary edition. A double cd remastered with the complete english language version and an additional CD in german of Neon Light Robots and the model, all with new sleeve notes and addtional pics. This version was reviewed by the press and was scheduled in EMI's releases. It never appeared. I called EMI a couple of times to be told that it was still on th e releases schedule. I'd be intterested to know if you've managed to track down a review copy Paul ===== Paul Martland e.mail:paul_martland@yahoo.co.uk ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno ." Subject: (kw) Magazine Poll Date: 10 Nov 1999 12:44:37 GMT Okay; now the boys are down to Number 5 below Bob Marley, ABBA, Rolling Stones, and John Lennnon. FUCK THAT !!!!! Let's make them Number 1 again. I've already voted about ten times already. NoiseWerker - "For God So Loved The World He ICQ # 42651237 Created The Roland TB-303" Bless You All. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Farki Subject: (kw) Lassigue Bendthaus on KW Date: 10 Nov 1999 20:25:54 +0100 Hello, I found it in the Atom Heart list: > Alse re: LB. I read in the recent FAQT mag (nice work Mr > Kolmar!) that lb's next release is going to be a cover album of > Kraftwerk tracks done in the Senor Coconut Latin style (!) - Farki - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Vote for Kraftwerk - "Artist of the century"! Date: 10 Nov 1999 17:03:20 -0800 And because Bob Marley is even listed in the top 10 the whole endeavor is completely invalidated. What the hell did he really contribute? Love?! Ganja?! I feel more sickened and less amused that enough people accept Bob Marley as a great contribution to music in general. Lee "Scratch" Perry isn't even mentioned - and he was doing it better, longer and more widespread than the whole fuckin' Marley clan. Screw that web site and screw popular consensus from a disposable faceless populace. -Bill Erik Sundkvist wrote: > > Now they are first, but Bob Marley is very, very close. Come on all > listmembers and vote! > > /Erik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Vote for Kraftwerk - "Artist of the century"! Date: 10 Nov 1999 17:13:27 -0800 >Screw >that web site and screw popular consensus from a disposable faceless >populace. > >-Bill Um... I think you have a few off-topic Bob Marley issues to work out there, friend! (Not that I think Bob Marley deserves to be in a list of "Influential People Of Our Century"... "Ineffectual People Of Our Century," maybe...) ---Jason Jason Polland International Sports Sciences Association Multimedia and Web Design http://www.issaonline.com 1-800-892-ISSA (805) 884-8111 / Fax (805) 884-8119 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Details for EXPO 2000 CD single Date: 10 Nov 1999 17:20:04 -0800 In order to properly get to the page you have to search via catalog number 8879842. The below link does not allow direct access. -Bill Klaus Zaepke wrote: > > The EMI WWW pages have now some details about the forthcoming "EXPO > 2000" single release at > http://www.emimusic.de/labels/35/artists/500021/track8879842.html : > > Kraftwerk - Expo 2000 > Format: CD single > Catalogue number: 8879842 > Tracklisting: > 1. Expo 2000 > 2. Expo 2000 > 3. Expo 2000 > 4. Expo 2000 > Release date: 06.12.1999. > > Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Priscila Morsoletto Subject: RE: (kw) Vote for Kraftwerk - "Artist of the century"! Date: 11 Nov 1999 01:08:02 -0200 On 10 Nov 99 at 10:01, johan.andersson@allers.aller. wrote: >>http://194.96.205.40/networld/channels/home/interpretenwahl.asp >hey, it seem thay are first now! Come on you guys, lets make Kraftwerk stay at first position!!! VOTE! Please! Yeah they're the "artists of the century"!!!! :-) Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Larry LaCost Jr Subject: RE: (kw) Vote for Kraftwerk - "Artist of the century"! Date: 11 Nov 1999 00:04:17 -0800 (PST) As soon as you click on Wahlen!, press the Escape key. The Escape key will stop the process of cycling the web page through and you can revote for them again. Keep clicking and pressing the Escape key over and over and over again. Do it as fast as you can... revote for them... and watch the numbers escalate!!!! Kraftwerk will win if we all do this. They are number 1 as we speak and we can bury this survey!!!!! Larry... ===== Larry... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: FW: (kw) Vote for Kraftwerk - "Artist of the century"! Date: 11 Nov 1999 10:08:42 +0100 Thanks for the tip, now its going fast forward, let all do this now c'mon! Although, it seems as if the Bob Marley-mailinglist has hired a hacker=2E=2E=2E As soon as you click on Wahlen!, press the Escape key=2E The Escape key will stop the process of cycling the web page through and you can revote for them again=2E Keep clicking and pressing the Escape key over and over and over again=2E Do it as fast as you can=2E=2E=2E revote for them=2E=2E=2E and watch the numbers escalate!!!! Kraftwerk will win if we all do this=2E They are number 1 as we speak and we can bury this survey!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Petter Subject: Re: FW: (kw) Vote for Kraftwerk - "Artist of the century"! Date: 11 Nov 1999 01:35:24 -0800 (PST) Why do you all so desperately want them to win? Chill out. > Kraftwerk will win if we all do this. They are > number > 1 as we speak and we can bury this survey!!!!! ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Mills Subject: (kw) Radioactivity Kevorkian 7 inch remix Date: 11 Nov 1999 10:24:41 -0000 Hi Werkers - does anyone have the Kevorkian 7 inch remix of Radioactivity in mp3 format anywhere ????? Regards Paul Mills paulm@intercell.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) Vote for Kraftwerk - "Artist of the century"! Date: 11 Nov 1999 08:40:34 -0800 On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:03:20 -0800 "William Talley" writes: > > And because Bob Marley is even listed in the top 10 the whole > endeavor > is completely invalidated. What the hell did he really contribute? > > Love?! Ganja?! I feel more sickened and less amused that enough > people > accept Bob Marley as a great contribution to music in general. Lee > "Scratch" Perry isn't even mentioned - and he was doing it better, > longer and more widespread than the whole fuckin' Marley clan. > Screw > that web site and screw popular consensus from a disposable faceless > populace. ...popular consesus, by wide cross-cultural, ethnic and economic classes, and his uncanny ability to put faces on what traditionaly had been a disposable populance, IS his contribution....sometimes life is more than music... tom w np: marley - war ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: (kw) Japanese release Date: 11 Nov 1999 15:45:18 +0100 Hi! I just spotted a (to me) new release from Nippon Crown (#98-9-23) = called Autobahn Tour. It's an all black cover with a blue Autobahn sticker on = it, selling for =A324 at HMV in London. Tracklist: Kometenmelodie Autobahn Klingklang (miss-spelled one word and with dots over the a) Tanzmusik /Joakim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno ." Subject: (kw) OT: More Computer Stuff Date: 11 Nov 1999 01:34:44 GMT Well, I apologize if this topic bored some of you out there the first time it was mentioned, but that's what you have delete buttons for. ;-P Anyways, as I had talked about before, I had waged the war in my head about converting to Mac over PC (especially in regards to music making). Although I will keep my PC for now, it will definitely go in the closet once I get my hands on my new Mac system soon. But there's just one problem. :-0 I originally said that I would start saving up for a G4 tower, but now the new iMac DV systems have really caught my attention. The new iMac DV's have now inlcuded all of the features that I originally wanted in the first editions : 350 or 400 G3 Processors 100 Mhz System Bus 64 or 128 MB RAM 2 Fire Wire Ports 6, 10, 0R 13GB Ultra ATA Drives 8 MB Video RAM ATI Rage 128 Card (2x AGP) 4x DVD-ROM Harmon Kardon speakers iMovie video software Plus, I've always wanted to get into video editing. I've been thinking of building a site to house all of my rare Art Of Noise footage on, but I don't have a video capture device. So now the debate is, which one should I buy ? To paraphrase a statement made by Apple, they said that you would only need a G4 over an iMac if you needed a bigger monitor (??? Monitors are sold separately from the G4 towers), needed PCI expansion, or if you needed more than a maximum of 512 MB of RAM. Surely that'a a faulty statement. I like the iMac because it's truly plug-and-play, and everything is so compact and easily accessible (ever have to change an audio cable from the back of a large tower case ? It's quite a bitch when you have little room to move around !!!!). Plus, I love the flavors (hey, when will we see a Lemon model ?) :-) But I want the G4 for its brute-strength processing. Either way, both models will be faster than the newest Pentiums (according to Apple's tests LOL) . So what do you Mac Addicts think ? : New iMac, or new G4 ? BTW : I know that there are USB MIDI boxes available for the Mac, but are there any full-fledged USB audio cards/boxes out there ? I know that Roland and Edirol released their UA-100 Audio Canvas, but its interface software is specifically for PC. I really want to start doing 24-bit recording. Thanks again for putting up with my long-ass posts. ;-P NoiseWerker - "For God So Loved The World He ICQ # 42651237 Created The Roland TB-303" Bless You All. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno ." Subject: (kw) A Better Way Of Voting Date: 11 Nov 1999 09:03:29 GMT I found a neat trick. When you vote on the survey, don't even refresh the page !!!! Just keep clicking on the vote button until you can't take it anymore. It works. Then after about 10 minutes of continuous clicking, let the page refresh, and you will have just placed about 5 million votes on the page. LOL NoiseWerker - "For God So Loved The World He ICQ # 42651237 Created The Roland TB-303" Bless You All. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob VonMoss Subject: Re: (kw) Vote for Kraftwerk - "Artist of the century"! Date: 10 Nov 1999 19:09:39 -0600 > >http://194.96.205.40/networld/channels/home/interpretenwahl.asp Hey! They're back on top again. I guess that person trying to vote for ABBA got tired and even the Bob Marley fan couldn't keep up. "I'm the operator of my web-based Wahlen-ator" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Romulus Giovanni" Subject: (kw) Pocket Calulator Video Date: 11 Nov 1999 15:51:24 GMT Hello All, About a year and a half ago I saw Pocket Caculator on MTV, the full music video. Does anyone know where I can get a hold of that? If not, then at least an MPEG or audio file somewhere to download? I'm especially looking for a live performance of the "original" Pocket Calculator (in English). All the ones I've heard so far are of the mix version. Zamir ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Glenn Folkvord (JMJ FKN)" Subject: (kw) E-music reseller/promotion programme Date: 11 Nov 1999 18:12:59 +0100 Hello all musicians and composers of electronic music, I am sorry if this is off-topic, but its probably relevant for some = listmembers. I'd like to give everyone a chance to participate in a new = reseller/promotion programme for e-music, which will be located in = Norway, but available all over the world thanks to the internet. The = idea is to promote and review electronic music, and offer albums for = sale (from stock, from you or from your existing reseller). This is not = going to be the new Groove (have no fear, Kees) but I will do my part to = promote electronic music of all kinds. The only requirement from your side is that you send us a review copy of = your CD(s). The adress is below. We cannot receive MP3s via email for = this programme - we need your CD. There is no charge related to = participating. Your music will be promoted like this: * Editorial coverage and reviews in an online e-music magazine * Airplay in an e-music show at a Norwegian radio station * Adverts and reviews in the Norwegian JM Jarre fanzine + whatever we may think of later. Note: This is NOT an attempt to get free CDs for my personal use!! I = have been involved with the promotion of e-music since the early 90s = (including hosting 3 different radio shows on the subject) and this is = my first step into promoting e-music on the web. Have a look at = www.jmjfkn.com and www.itsahit.com/padilla/ for a sample of what I have = done. Please send your CD(s), press info, pictures and contact information to: JMJ FKN Lundgard 2032 Maura Norway Thanks for reading, and good luck! Glenn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Japanese release Date: 11 Nov 1999 11:07:33 -0800 >I just spotted a (to me) new release from Nippon Crown (#98-9-23) called >Autobahn Tour. It's an all black cover with a blue Autobahn sticker on it, >selling for =A324 at HMV in London. >Tracklist: >Kometenmelodie >Autobahn >Klingklang (miss-spelled one word and with dots over the a) >Tanzmusik > >/Joakim Hey, that sounds a lot like the "Concert Classics" bootleg... Except with the correct song titles! ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: Re: (kw) Japanese release Date: 11 Nov 1999 18:43:54 -0000 =I just spotted a (to me) new release from Nippon Crown (#98-9-23) called =Autobahn Tour. It's an all black cover with a blue Autobahn sticker on it, =selling for £24 at HMV in London. This is just the Japanese issue of the 'Concert Classics' CD Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) More EXPO 2000 Single Details Date: 11 Nov 1999 20:26:12 +0000 From de.rec.music.elektronisch: ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- [...] Tracklisting: 1 Expo2000 Kling Klang Mix 2000 6.48 2 Expo2000 Kling Klang Mix 2001 6.50 3 Expo2000 Kling Klang Mix 2002 5.36 4 Expo2000 radio Mix 3.35 [...] Credits: Music Data Huetter Schneider Hilpert Kling Klang Musik/Sony Music Publishing Engineer Fritz Hilpert kling klang studio P 1999 The copyright in this sound recording is owned by Kraftwerk under exclusive licence to EMI Electrola GmbH C 1999 EMI Electrola GmbH Kling Klang Produkt 1999 Ralf Huetter Florian Schneider Doepfer Steinberg Kawai TC-Electronic TC Works Modern Concepts.Net Quasimidi Original Expo Logo Qwer C Expo2000 Hannover Layout Lmp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Juhana Sadeharju Subject: (kw) Re: (yello) OT: More Computer Stuff Date: 11 Nov 1999 22:01:02 +0200 >From: "Juno ." > >Well, I apologize if this topic bored some of you out there the first time >it was mentioned, but that's what you have delete buttons for. Now I'm getting tired for that kind of stupidy. Please delete this guy from these mailing lists. Juhana # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: (kw) Tour de Face Date: 11 Nov 1999 14:54:56 -0800 Hi everybody, I asked this once before, but nobody replied! If it's already been discussed to death and nobody wants to talk about it, let me know so I'll stop mentioning this. Has everybody noticed that the "Tour de France" CD single has a different cover than the original vinyl? The faces of Karl and Wolfgang have been removed from the two middle cyclists. This seems odd considering they played on the original album, and Karl is listed as one of the song's composers! So. Anybody know why Ralf and Florian did this? Functioning automatic, ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Fw: (kw) Japanese release Date: 12 Nov 1999 01:12:49 -0500 >>I just spotted a (to me) new release from Nippon Crown (#98-9-23) called >>Autobahn Tour. It's an all black cover with a blue Autobahn sticker on it, Yes, but £24? Sounds pretty steep to me. Huggy Bear # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joakim Svensson Subject: Re: Fw: (kw) Japanese release Date: 12 Nov 1999 10:00:47 "GMT" True, I actually bought nothing, since most prices were rather= high. I'll go into www.boxman.se today (they have a Xmas special= with no freight costs. If you want to use it use code 942367= when buying) and buy some stuff. I also spotted Dream Theatre's= new album at HMV, costing about =A39 more than i Sweden... /Joakim =09=09--- Original message --- > Yes, but =A324? Sounds pretty steep to me. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. D." Subject: Re: (kw) Vote for Kraftwerk - "Artist of the century"! Date: 12 Nov 1999 11:10:10 -0800 (PST) #1: Kraftwerk 50655 votes #2: J. Lennon 46300 votes Those were the NUMBERS a few miutes ago at http://194.96.205.40/networld/channels/home/interpretenwahl.asp ===== Roger. rd411@yahoo.com Regor@webtv.net __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Expo 12" Date: 12 Nov 1999 22:00:25 +0000 It seems that the forthcoming "Expo 2000" single will be also released in 12" format, in addition to the already announced CD format: http://www.bigbag.de/Detail.cfm?ID=1525772&CFID=50391&CFTOKEN=95713233 Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Fink Date: 12 Nov 1999 22:43:00 +0000 The German band Fink did a Country version of Kraftwerk's "Autobahn" on their new album "Mondscheiner", available in CD and vinyl format. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: (kw) TDF Questions Date: 13 Nov 1999 11:53:21 +1100 Hi, below is a list of releases that interest me as they all have different times to the ones I have, do they exist? if anybody has these can they please contact me?! Thanks. Questions: Keworkian Remix, is there only one remix or is there a french remix AND a german remix? 7" *Tour De France ger. (Edit) (3.05) Kling Klang/EMI 1C 006 1652047 1983 Germany 7" *Tour De France Remix fr. (Edit) (3.46)/Tour De France ger. (Edit) (3.10) Kling Klang/EMI 1C 006 200376-7 1983 Germany 7" =B0Tour de France (Remix) (Edit) (3.50)/Tour De France (Remix) (Edit) (4.04) Warner Brothers 92 933427 1983 [Promo issue.] Canada 10" Tour De France ? (3.57) Abbey Road Studios (no cat. no.) 1983 [EMI one-sided acetate, probably a 10" cut.] England 12" *Tour De France ger. (Remix) (6.44), EMI/Pathe-Marconi, 1545236, 1983 [Has added black on white "New York Club Mix" title box below "Tour De France" title on sleeve; remixes are the familiar 6.44 'Remix' versions. There is also a version with a 'Remix' stickered sleeve.] France Compilation Album DJ'S BEST - 12 GERMAN DANCEFLOOR CLASSICS Ariola 211 281 1993=20 [With Kraftwerk track 'Tour De France Remix 3.42'.] Germany or CD Compilation Album DJ'S BEST - 12 GERMAN DANCEFLOOR CLASSICS Ariola 261 281 1993 [With Kraftwerk track 'Tour De France french Remix 3.42'.] Germany Compilation Cassette COOL GROOVE NON STOP BLAST MIX VOL.1 EMI 1C 434 7 90116 4 XDR 1988 [2 MC set, 5.15 of 'Tour De France Remix' included in Mix 1.] VIDEO ONE WORLD OF EMI MUSIC, EMI, (no cat.no.), 1986 [Promotional compilation of Kraftwerk video clips: 'Musique non stop', 'The Robots 1978', 'Das Modell', Tour de France ger.' and 'Taschenrechner'. The videos are intercut with pictures of the german albums available at the time. Probably made to promote the backcatalogue albums together with 'Electric Cafe'.] Germany VIDEO Tour De France (Kevorkian Remix) (Edit) (2.00), PMI, VT 7 3/B/B4, 1984 [Promotional Video for 'Breakdance' movie, featuring footage of a breakdancer dancing to a unique 2.00 instrumental edit of 'Tour De France Kevorkian Remix'. PMI is EMI's 'Picture Music International' Video label.] England thanks! Vladimir # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kajsa" Subject: SV: (kw) Vote for Kraftwerk - "Artist of the century"! Date: 13 Nov 1999 12:03:25 +0100 Who cares who'll be voted as #1 artist of the century by some Austrian = newspaper or whatever it was anyway? Especially as it's pretty obvious = that everyones "cheating" anyway.=20 Why dont you try doing anything a little more useful/fun/whatever with = your sparetime instead? /.. > #1: Kraftwerk 50655 votes > #2: J. Lennon 46300 votes >=20 > Those were the NUMBERS a few miutes ago at > http://194.96.205.40/networld/channels/home/interpretenwahl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) New Kraftwerk single online... at eil.com (uk) Date: 13 Nov 1999 11:37:23 +0000 head to www.eil.com to order on-line. However, they did keep me waiting for 8 weeks for Tour De France and once 'forgot' to send me an item until I rang up 3 months later. KRAFTWERK Expo 2000 (German maxi 12" single due for release early December - this is the title track for Exposition 2000 in Hannover!) UK 7.49 / $ 12.00 KRAFTWERK Expo 2000 (New German maxi CD single due out early December - this is the title track of the Exposition 2000 in Hannover) UK 7.49 / $ 12.00 -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "communi-care" Subject: (kw) wolfgang fl=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=r / audioscope Date: 13 Nov 1999 13:15:11 +0200 hi, i found this link please look at this http://www.audioscope.de/live.html greetings # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob VonMoss Subject: Re: SV: (kw) Vote for Kraftwerk - "Artist of the century"! Date: 13 Nov 1999 09:41:43 -0600 Kajsa wrote: > Who cares who'll be voted as #1 artist of the century by some Austrian newspaper or whatever it was anyway? Especially as it's pretty obvious that everyones "cheating" anyway. > > Why dont you try doing anything a little more useful/fun/whatever with your sparetime instead? > > > http://194.96.205.40/networld/channels/home/interpretenwahl.asp John Lennon is now 9,000 ahead of KW. When does this poll end anyway? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 single - some more details Date: 13 Nov 1999 20:36:01 +0100 [source: http://www.groove.nl] Kraftwerk - Expo 2000 [EMI; 8879842] 1 Expo 2000 Kling Klang Mix 2000 6.48 2 Expo 2000 Kling Klang Mix 2001 6.50 3 EXpo 2000 Kling Klang Mix 2002 5.36 4 Expo 2000 radio Mix 3.35 The CD is packed in a special 3D cover (like Oxygene 7-13 from JMJ). This single will also be available on 12". -- Marco + ----> T H E S Y N T H P O P N E T W O R K <---- + | | | From Now On You Need Only Remember One Address: | | http://www.spn.nu | | ICQ: 1671395| + --------- T H E O N L Y P A G E O F A L L P A G E S -------- + # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Vote for Kraftwerk - "Artist of the century"! Date: 13 Nov 1999 14:57:16 -0800 Too true, my friend. I don't discount the Marley clans hand in making music history, however, in my opinion they are not as influential in the repect that Kraftwerk are/have been. But when I'm in a bad mood and start to shoot from the hip, I really go for it! :D -Bill tweibrecht@juno.com wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:03:20 -0800 "William Talley" > writes: > > > > And because Bob Marley is even listed in the top 10 the whole > > endeavor > > is completely invalidated. What the hell did he really contribute? > > > > Love?! Ganja?! I feel more sickened and less amused that enough > > people > > accept Bob Marley as a great contribution to music in general. Lee > > "Scratch" Perry isn't even mentioned - and he was doing it better, > > longer and more widespread than the whole fuckin' Marley clan. > > Screw > > that web site and screw popular consensus from a disposable faceless > > populace. > > ...popular consesus, by wide cross-cultural, ethnic and economic > classes, and his uncanny ability to put faces on what traditionaly had > been a disposable populance, IS his contribution....sometimes life is > more than music... > > tom w > > np: marley - war # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angelo" Subject: (kw) First Position!!! : -))) (Artist of the century) Date: 13 Nov 1999 23:44:49 -0200 Hi Werks!!! Kraftwerk now is in first positon at Artist of the century! ============================================ //////////ANGELO///////////////////// angelo@urbi.com.br Miguel Angelo C. Praça////// http://www.urbi.com.br/users/angelo \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ICQ: 11606126 /////////////////////// ============================================ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) Russian Greatest Hits Cd at EBay - what does anybody know? Date: 14 Nov 1999 00:55:37 +0000 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=197622694 -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angelo" Subject: Re: (kw) wolfgang flür / audioscope Date: 14 Nov 1999 19:41:41 -0200 Is Interesting! But Wolfgang Flür don't apears! : - | ============================================ //////////ANGELO///////////////////// angelo@urbi.com.br Miguel Angelo C. Praça////// http://www.urbi.com.br/users/angelo \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ICQ: 11606126 /////////////////////// ============================================ ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 9:15 AM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: RE: (kw) Tour de Face Date: 15 Nov 1999 9:23:37 +0100 Jason wrote: Has everybody noticed that the "Tour de France" CD single has a different cover than the original vinyl? The faces of Karl and Wolfgang=2E=2E=2E So=2E Anybody know why Ralf and Florian did this? Actually, I talked To Ralf about this yesterday and he said it must have been=20= a misprint, Florian on the other hand stated that Ralf didn't like the look=20= in their faces, so I guess we will never know for sure=2E=2E=2E =20= Regards / Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Brand New Kraftwerk CDs Date: 15 Nov 1999 14:07:53 +0100 Quoted from MNS Newsletter #2: Possibly the biggest news of all is the release of a BRAND NEW Kraftwerk CD Single. Due for a December 6th release, this is titled Expo 2000 and is a 4 track cd single (4 language versions). Already assigned an EMI catalogue number (8879842), [...] Kraftwerk Expo 2000 Brand New 4 track CDS. Released on Dec 6th. [...] EMI 8879842 CDS http://www.music-non-stop.co.uk --- End of quote --- >Questions: Keworkian Remix, is there only one remix or is there a french >remix AND a german remix? Speaking about Mr. Kevorkian, there is a band called Kevorkian Death Cycle. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) EMI UK and Expo 2000 Date: 15 Nov 1999 14:37:21 -0000 Hello everybody, I emailed Martin Nutley at EMI UK to ask about the single. Reply below >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul - thank you for your message. The single does NOT appear on our UK release schedules at the moment. However, there are a small quantity of "promo" copies on order for delivery to us in then UK by 29/11/99 - these are for radio stations, clubs, etc., only - so I guess the UK company will "test the water" and then decide on whether or not to make a commercial release. Sorry, but this is all I can tell you at this point in time. Regards, Martin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Typical. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Expo2000 Single Date: 15 Nov 1999 18:47:57 -0000 Despite EMI not issuing the single you can still buy it in the UK by visiting the HMV website-it's availble there form 29/11/99 http://www.hmv.co.uk/ Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) from nme Date: 15 Nov 1999 20:47:12 +0000 KRAFTWERK release their first new single this decade ('Tour De France', released earlier this year, was a new mix of an old song) in December, though according to a spokesman it will not be released in the UK. 'Expo 2000' will be released by Kling Klang/EMI in Germany; it was written as the official theme to next year's Expo 2000 in Hanover from June until October and the initial release has three Kraftwerk mixes (Kling Klang Mix 2000, Kling Klang Mix 2001, Kling Klang Mix 2002) and a radio edit. It will be packaged in a 3D sleeve and selected import shops and online services are already taking advance orders for the single. Whether this heralds a new burst of activity for Kraftwerk whose last appearance in the UK was at Tribal Gathering in 1997, remains to be seen. They haven't made an album since 1986's 'Electric Cafe' despite their enormous influence on all electronic music - from Chicago House and Detroit Techno to contemporary trance - that has come since -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jean Christophe DERRIEN Subject: (kw) Hello There ! / The Mix video Date: 16 Nov 1999 01:10:22 +0200 Hello There ! I'm JCFromParis, 28, screenwriter and I just subscribed again to the Kraftwerk list ! I dont want to bother you, but I searched in www.yalplay.com a good online record shop and they seem to have a video of Kraftwerk "The Mix" (PAL). Does anyone have that ? I never saw that ! Please let me know. JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) OFF TOPIC Date: 15 Nov 1999 17:15:16 -0700 DER AUTOMAT >Speaking about Mr. Kevorkian, there is a band called Kevorkian Death Cycle. KDC took their name, not from Francois, but from the inventor of the controversial "Medicide Machine", Dr. Jack Kevorkian. His startling views on planned death, and his practice on medically-assisted suicide, has caused a bit of a debate here in the States for quite some time now. Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk's EXPO jingle Date: 16 Nov 1999 15:23:44 +0100 >Kraftwerk have composed the signature tune for the EXPO 2000 world's fair >in Hannover. The piece features an electronic voice that speaks "Expo 2000" >in various languages. [...] >The premiere of Kraftwerk's EXPO jingle yesterday in Hannover was received >with "amazement (or shiver)" [...] >It seems that the tune basically consists of a vocoderized voice that >speaks "EXPO 2000" in six different languages. Apparently Kraftwerk used three different vocoder synthesizers to make each one of the six tracks from the corresponding used languages. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Re-boot Date: 16 Nov 1999 08:27:48 -0700 Spin - Noise - News 11/15/99: "The good news is that legendary German man machines Kraftwerk will return to the racks next month with a new single, their first since reuniting for a highly successful series of dates two years ago. The bad news is that it will only be available in Germany. According to the NME, the highly influential act will release "Expo 2000," the official theme for the Hanover Germany's Expo 2000, on their own Kling Klang/EMI label in December. The single, which will feature three remixes and a 3D sleeve will likely be available on the net, and in better import racks next month" Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) Vote for Kraftwerk - "Artist of the century"! Date: 16 Nov 1999 17:27:46 +0100 Well, for you still interested it seems as if John Lennon is 10000 ahead, b= ut=20= don't worry, I've made a quick-key on my mac that automatically votes for me,=20= HOW ABOUT THAT FOR THE MAN MACHINE? I've tried it and it makes about 500=20= votes on 15 minutes, thats 10000 votes in 5 hours, I let it go tonight=20= (Swedish time) and hope for a good connection to the net! Regards/johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Glenn Folkvord (JMJ FKN)" Subject: (kw) Finnish KW covers Date: 16 Nov 1999 17:34:13 +0100 Hey, This just came in from a friend of mine. In case you dont know it = already (but I assume some of you do): >ok back to serious i found a finnish band that plays Old kraftwerk = songs >But the songs are played with Accordions !!! (you know Finnish humpa & = tango &polka and shit like that ? ) >that=B4s the kind of covers they play ... or rather the way they play = it ... or rather with those sounds !! >Here is the record info if you would like to have it : >Title: Ac lab >band: Trio fratres >Record company : Alba >catalogue # : ABCD 140 >It sounded really cool it=B4s amazing what they have done with = accordions >and some electronic drums and a vocoder ! .... >Adress: >Alba records OY >p.o.box549 >fin-33101 Tampere >Finland >Tel INT + 358 3 345 1387 >Fax INT + 358 3 345 1384 >E-mail : Timo@alba-records.fi >web page : www.alba-records.fi All the best, Glenn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nat Heidler" Subject: (kw) BBC Documentry Date: 16 Nov 1999 12:34:45 -0600 I was surfing around this afternoon, and found a web page that is outdated or who knows what. But there appears to have been a BBC documentry in 1995 about KW. The 3 RA files for this show are no longer on the server (http://www2.unl.ac.uk/~cxazalsburj/kw/DOCUMENTARY.HTML) Does anyone have this or know where I can download it? Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Expo Date: 16 Nov 1999 19:34:50 -0000 >It seems that the tune basically consists of a vocoderized voice that >speaks "EXPO 2000" in six different languages. This sounds to me as if it may follow the numbers/Music non stop concepts of phonemes and other vocal sources as instruments-I'm only guessing of course! Has there been any other response in Germany-especially as the stand alone jingle caused so much fuss? Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bob V.M." Subject: Re: (kw) BBC Documentry Date: 16 Nov 1999 14:59:20 -0600 Nat Heidler wrote: > I was surfing around this afternoon, and found a web page that is outdated > or who knows what. But there appears to have been a BBC documentry in 1995 > about KW. The 3 RA files for this show are no longer on the server > (http://www2.unl.ac.uk/~cxazalsburj/kw/DOCUMENTARY.HTML) Does anyone have > this or know where I can download it? I've loaded them here for a while: http://members.xoom.com/dpubf/kw/radio1part1.ra http://members.xoom.com/dpubf/kw/radio1part2.ra http://members.xoom.com/dpubf/kw/radio1part3.ra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bgms" Subject: (kw) searching others bands Date: 16 Nov 1999 19:39:40 -0200 Hello, "werkers" For me, Kraftwerk is always the number 1, but also I love another electronic bands. I have some disks and I would like to know somebody it possesses another recordings of the following groups: - Nova (I just Have LP " Terranova ") - Johan Timman (I just Have LP " Trip into the Body ") - Automat (Droid, etc...) I thank if somebody has information for me. Eduardo Monteiro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Re-boot Date: 17 Nov 1999 09:33:34 +1100 Has anyone actually heard any of the music from the CD Single??? I wonder if it will be as crap as the jingle!?! vt Enrique Correa wrote: > > Spin - Noise - News 11/15/99: > "The good news is that legendary German man machines Kraftwerk will return > to the racks next month with a new single, their first since reuniting for a > highly successful series of dates two years ago. The bad news is that it > will only be available in Germany. According to the NME, the highly > influential act will release "Expo 2000," the official theme for the Hanover > Germany's Expo 2000, on their own Kling Klang/EMI label in December. The > single, which will feature three remixes and a 3D sleeve will likely be > available on the net, and in better import racks next month" > Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "nsw" Subject: (kw) TWINE (Off topic) Date: 16 Nov 1999 18:00:20 -0500 Hello all I would like to recommend the band Twine. They are from my home city of Kent, OH, and play ambient/electronic music. They have a website at http://home.earthlink.net/~twinesound There are links to downloadable music of theirs, and they have an excellent album out on AdAstra records. www.mp3.com/twine has samples too. Incidentally, one of their primary pieces of equipment is a Quasimidi Sirius. --Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk's EXPO jingle Date: 16 Nov 1999 23:03:49 +0000 > From: "Der Automat" > > Apparently Kraftwerk used three different vocoder synthesizers to > make each one of the six tracks from the corresponding used languages. The German magazine DER SPIEGEL, issue 28/1999 published a different theory on how the jingle was produced. They supposed that Kraftwerk celebrated their DM 400.000 - Expo deal with champagne. One of them drank too much and belched "Expo 2000" into the toilet. These noises were recorded and released as the jingle. > From: "Paul Martland" > > >It seems that the tune basically consists of a vocoderized voice > >that speaks "EXPO 2000" in six different languages. > > This sounds to me as if it may follow the numbers/Music non stop concepts of > phonemes and other vocal sources as instruments- I'm only guessing of course! No, the 6-months-old remark above referred to the jingle, not to the forthcoming single. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk's EXPO jingle Date: 16 Nov 1999 20:10:28 -0800 Now, you know that you'd be right there in line to get that single too. Now stop with the flatulance. -Bill Klaus Zaepke wrote: > > > From: "Der Automat" > > > > Apparently Kraftwerk used three different vocoder synthesizers to > > make each one of the six tracks from the corresponding used languages. > > The German magazine DER SPIEGEL, issue 28/1999 published a different > theory on how the jingle was produced. They supposed that Kraftwerk > celebrated their DM 400.000 - Expo deal with champagne. One of them > drank too much and belched "Expo 2000" into the toilet. These noises > were recorded and released as the jingle. > > > From: "Paul Martland" > > > > >It seems that the tune basically consists of a vocoderized voice > > >that speaks "EXPO 2000" in six different languages. > > > > This sounds to me as if it may follow the numbers/Music non stop concepts of > > phonemes and other vocal sources as instruments- I'm only guessing of course! > > No, the 6-months-old remark above referred to the jingle, not to the > forthcoming single. > > Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andréas Hagström" Subject: (kw) KW homepage Date: 16 Nov 1999 10:32:30 PST Maybe this is wellknown but did you know that the whole alphabet and the=20 numbers 0 - 9 is available in green if you use the adress: http://www.kraftwerk.com/gruen/a.gif and change "a" into what ever number or character you like. /Andr=E9as namn Andr=E9as Hagstr=F6m E-mail drellah@hotmail.com homepage http://www.foto.gu.se/Student/andreas_h/index.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk's EXPO jingle Date: 17 Nov 1999 06:15:52 +0000 > Now, you know that you'd be right there in line to get that single too. > Now stop with the flatulance. Er, the quoted press article referred to the *jingle*, not to the *single*. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk's EXPO jingle Date: 17 Nov 1999 14:18:38 +0000 Klaus Zaepke wrote: > > >> Now, you know that you'd be right there in line to get that single too. >> Now stop with the flatulance. > > Er, the quoted press article referred to the *jingle*, not to the > *single*. Belching was used on the jingle, flatulence on the single? Er fahrt auf der Autobahn? KB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk/Boogie Boys Date: 17 Nov 1999 15:54:04 +0100 Anyone of you know something about the following item: Found at http://www.hmv.co.uk/ singles: singles [...] Kraftwerk/Boogie Boys: "Trans Europe Express/Fly Girl" Notes: Release Date: 17-01-1991 Catalogue Number: V15566 DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Victor Subject: (kw) testing Date: 17 Nov 1999 14:04:28 -0200 testing .... -- Victor vh@urbi.com.br http://www.urbi.com.br/users/vh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) KW homepage Date: 17 Nov 1999 11:41:18 -0800 >Maybe this is wellknown but did you know that the whole alphabet and the >numbers 0 - 9 is available in green if you use the adress: > >http://www.kraftwerk.com/gruen/a.gif > >and change "a" into what ever number or character you like. Hey, that's cool! Other characters like commas and periods are available, too. Has everbody seen the secret page at: http://www.kraftwerk.com/konzert.html It's got an incredible globe of the earth that can be turned in any direction! It's very 3-D. ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Familie de Haan Subject: Re: OT (kw) searching others bands (Johan Timman) Date: 17 Nov 1999 20:58:43 +0100 Hi, I've heard the Johan Timman album a few years ago (abut 1982/3 ???) and can almost clearly remember the backcover picture, loads of synths. I searched the net, but "Trip" is the only album done by Johan Timman. He is playing live though, I found this text on the the net: Johan Timman will NOT be performing on the next Alfa-Centauri festival. Instead of him RAINBOW SERPENT will be performing. It didn't have a date on it... Good luck, Jeroen -- IN THE FUTURE: In the future, we will all drive standing up. In the future, love will be taught on television and by listening to pop songs. Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) New Kraftwerk album scheduled for January Date: 17 Nov 1999 21:18:26 +0000 Todays Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung published some Kraftwerk news: 1. The tracks on the forthcoming "Expo 2000" single are based on the Expo jingle. 2. Expo arts section manager Tom Stromberg stated that the new Kraftwerk track is no official Expo hymn or soundtrack, as it was claimed in the British press. 3. A video is in preparation. 4. EMI announced a new Kraftwerk album for January 2000. The article is online at http://www-vgm2.niedersachsen.com/HAZ/ONLINE/story33682.html Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk in Poland? Date: 18 Nov 1999 14:15:34 +0100 Hello, I've just joined the list and have got a question. A friend of mine told me quite a long time ago ('87-'89) that Kraftwerk had given a concert in Poland. He also qouted me a line, sounding like "Mam w kieszeni kalkulator", which seems the beginning of "Pocket Calculator", apparently made in Polish puprosely for the perfomance. Does anyone know any details of Kraftwerk's concert (concerts) in Poland? Anybody has seen any? Are there any recordings? Of course, I'm especially interested in Polish versions of their songs. Michal Romaniuk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) searching others bands Date: 17 Nov 1999 18:21:21 +0100 bgms wrote: >I have some disks and I would like to know somebody it possesses another >recordings of the following groups: > >- Automat (Droid, etc...) Me!? DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) New Electric Music CDSingle announced at CDZone Date: 18 Nov 1999 16:55:51 +0100 From CDZone: www.cdzone.co.uk, Electric Music CD Single =A34.21 Physics Fo ZUB3CD What it is? a track from the Electric Music album or some new material? Cheers, Arnaud # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andréas Hagström" Subject: (kw) RuF Date: 18 Nov 1999 00:35:42 PST A new album in jan 2000!!!! its hard to believe but lets hope its true! Now over to another album: Ralf und Florian, 6305 197. I=ABve got the german vinyl press with poster and all, but there are some= =20 strange things about it. The labels are on the wrong side. Esleben is=20 spelled Esteben on the label and many of the titles are also misspelled. = Is=20 this a rare copy or is it common? /Andr=8Eas namn Andr=8Eas Hagstr=9Am E-mail drellah@hotmail.com homepage http://www.foto.gu.se/Student/andreas_h/index.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lemmens Geert Subject: (kw) concert classics Date: 18 Nov 1999 09:54:40 -0800 (PST) the cd booklet of concert classics contains a list of all kw albums. There i found: "1981: Elektro Kinetic". Does this album exists or is its story similar to the techno pop story (that it was released as computer world)? skylined ===== "Make popular programs good and good programs popular." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Bieler Subject: (kw) Re: New Kraftwerk album scheduled for January Date: 18 Nov 1999 18:57:18 +0100 (CET) Klaus Zaepke wrote: > Todays Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung published some Kraftwerk news: > > 1. The tracks on the forthcoming "Expo 2000" single are based on the > Expo jingle. After reading the article three times I feel fit to contradict: There is *no* explicit statement made in this article that the new tracks are based on the jingle. The headline *implicitely* states this, but I'd say they did it for the pun (and because there obviously *is* an obvious topical connection. > The article is online at > http://www-vgm2.niedersachsen.com/HAZ/ONLINE/story33682.html It's still there. Thomas Bieler # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) New Kraftwerk album scheduled for January Date: 18 Nov 1999 11:27:44 -0700 Klaus Zaepke wrote: Todays Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung published [...]: >4. EMI announced a new Kraftwerk album for January 2000. So there's a God after all... Lets all party like is 1999! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) concert classics Date: 18 Nov 1999 11:40:04 -0800 >the cd booklet of concert classics contains a list of >all kw albums. There i found: "1981: Elektro >Kinetic". >Does this album exists or is its story similar to the >techno pop story (that it was released as computer >world)? "Elektro Kinetic" was a compilation album of previously released tracks, similar to "Excellor 8" or "The Model Retrospective". ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kraft-Werk@webtv.net Subject: Re: (kw) RuF Date: 18 Nov 1999 14:11:24 -0800 (PST) I have the same problem with my LP , it says " Kraf and Florian " What is the deal with this. Can anyone help ? ? ? Raul. Ugly People =AE # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: The jingle and the single (was: Re: (kw) Re: New Kraftwerk album Date: 18 Nov 1999 22:11:44 +0000 > > Todays Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung published some Kraftwerk news: > > 1. The tracks on the forthcoming "Expo 2000" single are based on the > > Expo jingle. > > After reading the article three times I feel fit to contradict: There is > *no* explicit statement made in this article that the new tracks are based > on the jingle. Yes, that's right. The explicit statement was actually published in yesterdays Merkur, and not in the Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung: "Am 6. Dezember veroeffentlichen die Elektro-Minimalisten ihre CD 'Expo 2000'. Die darauf enthaltenen Stuecke basieren auf dem drei Sekunden langen Expo-Jingle." I seem to have mixed up both articles, sorry for the confusion! :-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk featured in history exhibition Date: 18 Nov 1999 23:46:49 +0000 The Haus der Geschichte in Bonn shows an exhibition about Germany seen through the eyes of foreigners, which seems to feature a Kraftwerk exhibit: http://express.de/bonn/8704.html http://www.sueddeutsche.de/aktuell/polit_b.htm Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric.Schader@gambro.com Subject: RE: (kw) New Kraftwerk album scheduled for January Date: 19 Nov 1999 08:15:03 +0100 Or at least there seem to be a Kraftwerk after all ;-) Eric ---------- Klaus Zaepke wrote: Todays Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung published [...]: >4. EMI announced a new Kraftwerk album for January 2000. Enrique wrote: So there's a God after all... Lets all party like is 1999! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: Re: (kw) RuF Date: 19 Nov 1999 13:09:39 +0100 >Now over to another album: Ralf und Florian, 6305 197. >I=ABve got the german vinyl press with poster and all, but there are >some >strange things about it. The labels are on the wrong side. Esleben >is >spelled Esteben on the label and many of the titles are also >misspelled. Is >this a rare copy or is it common? > >/Andr=8Eas on the original cover, poster + label appears only "Florian Schneider", not Schneider-Esleben. 1973 F. had already dropped the double name. -jan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eugene Zaikonnikov" Subject: (kw) CD shops in Helsinki? (OT) Date: 19 Nov 1999 20:55:50 +0200 Hi All, Sorry for the off-topic post. Is anyone from Finland on the list? I'll be in Helsinki next week and would like to know addresses of music stores that has Kraftwerk CDs in stock. Reply to me privately. Thanks, Eugene [viking@cit.org.by] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Josep Garcia Subject: (kw) off-topic: Buenos Aires Date: 19 Nov 1999 19:30:30 -0300 Sorry for the off-topic. Are there any interesting shops/places to visit in Buenos Aires if I'm looking for Kraftwerk vinyl? Please reply directly to me. JGarcia@disco.com.ar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "nsw" Subject: (kw) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 20:57:04 -0500 Date: 20 Nov 1999 18:58:21 -0700 Hello does anyone have information/opinions on the following three items? 1.)Quasimidi Sirius (can this be obtained in the US?) 2.)Music and More VF-11 vocoder 3.)Seekers Voice Spectra vocoder Thanks, Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "nsw" Subject: (kw) Drum Machine Museum Date: 20 Nov 1999 21:00:26 -0500 Hello again Has anyone ever ordered equipment from the Drum Machine Museum store (www.drummachine.org)? Are they reliable? --Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nowhere000@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Drum Machine Museum Date: 20 Nov 1999 22:19:27 EST In a message dated 11/20/99 9:02:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, wardkent@gateway.net writes: << Hello again Has anyone ever ordered equipment from the Drum Machine Museum store (www.drummachine.org)? Are they reliable? --Nate >> No they are not -trust me # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nate Ward Subject: (kw) EuroSynth USA Date: 21 Nov 1999 11:50:00 -0500 Hello I've recently come across this company's website. I am considering ordering from them, does anyone have experience ordering from this company? Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Evans Subject: Re: (kw) EuroSynth USA Date: 21 Nov 1999 16:06:19 -0500 (EST) Nate Ward wrote: > > I've recently come across this company's website. I am considering > ordering from them, does anyone have experience ordering from this > company? > Some folks on Analogue Heaven have had some success. That's all I know. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Subject: (kw) vocoder sw Date: 22 Nov 1999 10:17:01 +0100 Hello can anyone mention an usable vocoder software (win or linux), to create good sounding robotized voices? thanks, Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) TdF 12" reissue Date: 22 Nov 1999 09:33:17 +0000 Large heaps of TdF reissue 12" vinyl availible yesterday in Virgin Oxford St if any London folks are still lacking. Nobody has a clue about Expo 2k or new album though... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oleg Rekutin Subject: Re: (kw) vocoder sw Date: 22 Nov 1999 10:09:08 -0500 Monday, November 22, 1999, 4:17:01 AM, you wrote: C> can anyone mention an usable vocoder software (win or linux), to create good C> sounding robotized voices? Try this free one: http://zerius.com/vocoder/ it's not super-intuitive to use, but quite flexible and produces nice results. - Oleg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) AB-CD Update Date: 22 Nov 1999 08:21:04 -0700 http://www.ab-cd.com/custom/cgi-bin/cat1/browse?KuUyab7B;;5 Kraftwerk Expo 2000 (ep) + Tracks EMI 887984-2 Germany 12/03/99 - CD Single AB-CD price $9.97 Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andréas Hagström" Subject: (kw) three different maps Date: 22 Nov 1999 06:01:38 PST There are three different tourmaps more or less hidden on the homepage http://www.kraftwerk.com/world_2.gif http://www.kraftwerk.com/world_3.gif http://www.kraftwerk.com/world_4.gif Are they just old tourmaps or what? /Andr=E9as namn Andr=E9as Hagstr=F6m E-mail drellah@hotmail.com homepage http://www.foto.gu.se/Student/andreas_h/index.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "communi-care" Subject: (kw) live chat with wolfgang fluer Date: 22 Nov 1999 21:45:28 +0200 there is a live chat next monday (29.12.99) with wolfgang fluer between 20h - 21.30h on http://www.cityweb.de greetings markus schmitz schmitz vs fluxgold hubbelrather strasse 12 40233 d=FCsseldorf fon 0211. 7332337 http://www.fluxgold.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Gartner Subject: (kw) Allmusic news Date: 22 Nov 1999 18:05:44 -0500 from allmusic.com's music news: New Kraftwerk Single on the Way Monday, November 22, 1999 Members of the German group Kraftwerk, whose pioneering use of synthesizers in the 1970s has influenced many of today's musicians, have reunited to record a new song. The composition was originally intended to be a 20-second jingle to be used at Expo 2000 in Hanover, Germany, but developed into a full-length song. The track will be released as a single in Germany on Dec. 6 and in the UK a month later. music non stop, -ericg- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) KLEM on Bartos Date: 22 Nov 1999 20:33:39 +0000 Issue 74 of the Dutch fanzine KLEM has a lengthy interview with Karl Bartos. Relevant news: He prepares a tour for next year, and he's working on a production for Epic / Sony. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Another Fluer book review Date: 22 Nov 1999 20:33:39 +0000 There's a new review of Wolfgang Fluer's Kraftwerk book at http://www.tagesspiegel.de/archiv/1999/11/21/ak-ku-li-bi-12430.html (German language). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk/Boogie Boys Date: 22 Nov 1999 20:15:46 -0800 Oh man, that sounds potentially baaad.... I'd stay clear of anything using 80's street slang such as bitchin', tubular (in a non-instumental context), def, fly or rockin' in it's title. -Bill Der Automat wrote: > > Anyone of you know something about the following item: > Found at http://www.hmv.co.uk/ > singles: singles > [...] > Kraftwerk/Boogie Boys: > "Trans Europe Express/Fly Girl" > Notes: > Release Date: 17-01-1991 > Catalogue Number: V15566 > > DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: (kw) vocoders Date: 23 Nov 1999 01:05:53 -0500 since theres been alot of questions about vocoders lately, ill give you guys some info; for a cheap nogood vocoder, get an ensoniq fizmo. youll get them for $499 at musiciansfriend.com. if you want something more suffisticated, get real good rackmounth synth such as the korg wavestation a/d (about $700) or go buy a real antique at ebay for $1400. its hard to find a good vocoder that give you that nice kraftwerkish sound. ive got a boss effect and a wavestation a/d. they are both ok, but not close to what the antiques can fo for you. karl\ http://www.mp3.com/wettin/ <- great music # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: (kw) TDF picture Date: 23 Nov 1999 19:42:19 +1100 Hi, for those that have seen the tdf video, it shows for a little while a picture of the four heads (only!) from the cover (gray colour) arranged like the house call 12" with the french flag vertical! (not diagonal) eg. the red colour strip on the left and the blue colour strip on the right of the four heads. Can anybody tell me if this part of the video exists as an image/graphic picture? If so can they send me a copy? Much obliged! thanks ! Vladimir Tittl PS I can send this short movie to you if needed! -- http://www.living-net.com e-mail: vt@living-net.com phone: ++61 3 9515 8843 fax/fon: ++61 3 9515 8842 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk in Spain Date: 23 Nov 1999 15:08:40 +0100 In the radio program Siglo 21 Radio 3 (Spanish radio) of today, the disc-jockey who runs it has said that Kraftwerk has been living for several years in Palma de Mallorca (Balearic Islands, Spain). DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Billboard news Date: 23 Nov 1999 08:18:58 -0700 Kraftwerk To Release New Single: German electronic pioneers Kraftwerk will release their first single in 13 years. "Expo 2000" is a compilation of four remixes of a jingle the act produced for organizers of the 2000 World Fair in Hannover. The single will be released Dec. 5 in Germany on the EMI/Kling Klang label; EMI will issue it in late December in the U.K. No U.S. release date has been set for the tracks, as Kraftwerk's contract with Stateside label Elektra has expired. -- Scott Roxborough, Cologne Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Rusbridge" Subject: (kw) EMI confirm new kraftwerk album Date: 23 Nov 1999 18:21:13 -0000 Werkers after a phone call to Music non-stop (UK) I received this email message.. >We have had news today (after I spoke to you) that EMI have >comfirmed the release of a NEW ALBUM to be released in January. >(Are you back on your chair >now!!?). Watch this space. We shall >hopefully have more news on this for you on Friday. There is a god! LaterzZZ Jim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) EMI confirm new kraftwerk album Date: 23 Nov 1999 13:44:51 +0000 please, please tell me where can i buy it?! Jim Rusbridge wrote: > >Werkers >after a phone call to Music non-stop (UK) I received this email message.. > >>We have had news today (after I spoke to you) that EMI have >comfirmed the >release of a NEW ALBUM to be released in January. >(Are you back on your >chair >now!!?). Watch this space. We shall >hopefully have more news on this >for you on Friday. > >There is a god! >LaterzZZ >Jim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) EMI confirm new kraftwerk album Date: 23 Nov 1999 17:25:25 -0800 At long last we may hear a potential reinvention on the vehicle that started it all! From what I understand they sold part of their equipment to Bartos (probably the good stuff) and were left with digitally captured reconstruction's of that equipment. The Expo2000 sounds very analogish - just like the Kraftwerk of 'Computer World'... they may have gone back to some of the roots from which they sprang? Perhaps this new album will be a real redefinition on electronic music? It's a titillating thought! -Bill Jim Rusbridge wrote: > > Werkers > after a phone call to Music non-stop (UK) I received this email message.. > > >We have had news today (after I spoke to you) that EMI have >comfirmed the > release of a NEW ALBUM to be released in January. >(Are you back on your > chair >now!!?). Watch this space. We shall >hopefully have more news on this > for you on Friday. > > There is a god! > LaterzZZ > Jim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Re: (kw) EMI confirm new kraftwerk album Date: 23 Nov 1999 13:49:19 -0500 >>We have had news today (after I spoke to you) that EMI have >comfirmed the >release of a NEW ALBUM to be released in January. >(Are you back on your yada, yada, yada...about all I can say is that I've heard that before. I'll believe it when I see it. Huggy Bear np: Schaufensterpuppen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Sundkvist" Subject: (kw) The Robots Mix Date: 23 Nov 1999 19:27:51 CET Listen to the mix of "The Robots - Hosted by Indigenous Alien Records" on www.streamsearch.com. Is it Kraftwerk who have made this mix? /Erik ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Rusbridge" Subject: (kw) EMI confirm new kraftwerk album Date: 23 Nov 1999 20:29:40 -0000 Music Non Stop Ltd sales@music-non-stop.co.uk They are taling advanced orders for the new single 'Expo 2000' only at the moment. Should get some info about the album friday. Jim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) The Robots Mix Date: 24 Nov 1999 09:17:33 +0100 This is a bootleg live recording. Most probably it's from the 1981 tour (and for sure it't a pre-Mix recording). I've listened to my -81 recordings of this song, and it's close to the version from "Computers in Love" recorded in Belgium. /Joakim -----Original Message----- ..."The Robots - Hosted by Indigenous Alien Records" on www.streamsearch.com. Is it Kraftwerk who have made this mix?... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tadream" Subject: (kw) ftp Date: 24 Nov 1999 09:42:42 +0100 im looking for 'kraftwerk' and 'kraftwerk2' on ftp does anyone have them for download? thnx tadream email: tadream@free.poltronic.net home page: http://www.adamszymanek.cjb.net uin: 35224126 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk unveil NEW robots Date: 24 Nov 1999 07:44:06 -0700 There are NEW KRAFTWERK robots, (photographed last week in Bonn, Germany) in a NME article at: http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/19991124120308.html "[...] The likenesses of founder members Florian Schneider and Ralf Hutter were created to promote Kraftwerk's first new material since 1986 (their new single, 'Expo 2000') [...] A UK spokesperson for the band said there were no firm plans for a new Kraftwerk album despite reports in the German press, but added that Schneider and Hutter were working on new material and that "anything is possible with Kraftwerk". Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Periodical ramblings Date: 24 Nov 1999 15:52:23 +0100 According to a critic of the Future Music Spanish Edition magazine, the song "Fly To The Moon" (included in the album "Balmy Under The Stormy") by Juantrip, could well be an improvisation of Kraftwerk and Robert Plan. A Fortunato & Montresor's track has been included on Chill House CD compilation. The documentary 'Models' directed by David Bailey features the cover version of 'The Model' by Balanescu Quartet. Nice pictures of Kraftwerk at http://www.bcsnetwork.es/tematico/bluemonday/sumario2.htm#Kraftwerk DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jean Christophe DERRIEN Subject: (kw) New Robots on NME Date: 24 Nov 1999 15:48:02 +0200 http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/19991124120308.html Included a picture of the new robots. No announcement for a new album, according to EMI UK. JCFromParis On now : Schizophrenia - Schizophrenia # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk unveil new robots Date: 24 Nov 1999 14:55:41 +0000 http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/19991124120308.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Victor Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk in Brasil 98...new pictures... Date: 24 Nov 1999 15:04:03 -0200 Kraftwerk pictures in Brasil 98 ...see in: http://www.oglobo.com.br/diversao/freejazz.htm -- Victor vh@urbi.com.br http://www.urbi.com.br/users/vh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jon Alsbury" Subject: (kw) 'the model' vid on totp2 Date: 22 Nov 1999 10:26:46 -0000 u.k. folks got an unxpected treat this evening -- '82 video for 'the model' got a spin on 'top of the pops 2'. regretably is was preceded by 'keith harris and orville' which really was utterly sickening. those who missed it get a chance to catch the repeat next saturday afternoon on bbc2 about 3ish. for the sake of your sanity i urge you to turn the volume down during the orville song though... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DepecheCBI@aol.com Subject: (kw) update @ www.emimusic.de Date: 24 Nov 1999 15:29:33 EST Hi! The KRAFTWERK - pages @ www.emimusic.de have been updated. They=B4re now in=20= a=20 EXPO2000 - design and new highlights (like photos of the new robots) have=20 been added, too. MfG Carsten Bolte. Kiel. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Victor Subject: (kw) EMI site... Date: 24 Nov 1999 15:35:59 -0200 We will ask the new album!! http://www.emimusic.de/cgi-bin/d23guestbook2/gastbuch1.cgi?artist=kraftwerk -- Victor vh@urbi.com.br http://www.urbi.com.br/users/vh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) (off topic) a good book about synthesizer history Date: 25 Nov 1999 17:50:34 +0100 Hi, Sorry for the of topic post. I'm looking for a good book about the history of synthesizers. I'm not interested in a book full of very technical specifications, etc. but rahter a book which would talk about evolution of technology & interviews with synthesizers creators (Bob Moog, etc.) If you have an idea, please let me know. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E5ns=20Sj=F6strand?= Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 Audio clips Date: 25 Nov 1999 18:08:11 +0100 http://www.emimusic.de have now put up audio clips from the new Kraftwerk relase. - M=E5ns # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Familie de Haan Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Audio clips Date: 25 Nov 1999 20:16:22 +0100 > http://www.emimusic.de have now put up audio clips from the new > Kraftwerk relase. Like... where? -- GROWING UP: Drugs affect children the opposite way they affect adults. Adults think with their mouths open. Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christian Reupke Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Audio clips Date: 25 Nov 1999 20:25:42 +0100 At 20:16 25-11-99 +0100, Familie de Haan wrote: > > http://www.emimusic.de have now put up audio clips from the new > > Kraftwerk relase. > >Like... where? Check the "Diskografie" -- Christian Reupke - ICQ 5014595 christian@reupke.dk - Kling Klang # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Rusbridge" Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 Audio clips Date: 25 Nov 1999 19:38:35 -0000 >Like... where? Go to Artists, them K, for.....now let me think....oh yeah...Kraftwerk. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: (kw) Funky KW Date: 25 Nov 1999 12:53:39 -0700 Check out the Kling Klang Mix 2001. Kraftwerk gets funky! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ouija@mail.com Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Audio clips Date: 25 Nov 1999 14:54:52 -0500 Sure enough, the clips are indeed listed under the "Discografie" header on the the page. I like what I hear!! Check out how funky "KlingKlang mix 2001" is! :-) Ouija "the 21st century..." (those of you who listened to "KlingKlang mix 2002" already know what I'm talking about. hehe) __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ouija@mail.com Subject: Re: (kw) Funky KW Date: 25 Nov 1999 15:02:12 -0500 "fxcordero" wrote: >Check out the Kling Klang Mix 2001. Kraftwerk gets funky! haha I just received my own e-mail at the same yours came in and we said the same damn thing. :-) 'Tis true though, sure is funky. I'm loving it! By the way, I might as well mention the artwork on the sleeve of the new EXPO 2000 single since there's a picture of it on the emi website. Very cool indeed! It looks very fractal in nature. I've always wanted to put out an album with a picture of a Mandelbrot or Julia set image (for those of you who know what I'm talking about) on the cover, and now it seems KW have done something pretty similar in concept. :-) Definitely looking forward to the new material. Ouija __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dean" Subject: (kw) kraftwerk Date: 24 Nov 1999 22:20:59 GMT i have the Paris 1981 (Enregistree Live a l'Olympia) CD, on Autobahn KW have alternative lyrics towards the end...like: Von Duesseldorf nach ... auf de Autobahn Von ... nach Zuerich auf der Autobahn and so on. Will someone please tell me the correct lyrics? Although I can make most of them out I can't understand all of them clearly. I want these lyrics badly so please please someone tell me!!! Also, anybody heard EXPO 2000??? I'm off to Germany to buy it... Mattwerk Sellafield 2 will produce 7.5 tons of plutonium every year. 1.5 kilograms of plutonium make the nuclear bomb. Sellafield 2 will release the same amount of radioactivity into the environment as Chernobyl every 4.5 years. One of these radioactive substances, Krypton 85, will cause death and skin cancer. (Kraftwerk 1991, c 1991 Klingklang) sod that, visit me at www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palace/8922 !!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Audio clips Date: 25 Nov 1999 18:22:13 +0200 On 25-Nov-99 A.D., M=E5ns Sj=F6strand carved the following runes about "(= kw) Expo 2000 Audio clips": > http://www.emimusic.de have now put up audio clips from the new > Kraftwerk relase. Could somebody please convert those streaming RA-files to a proper format like MPEG-audio and upload them somewhere? --=20 E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob VonMoss Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Audio clips Date: 25 Nov 1999 16:02:09 -0600 Are the TdF RA clips from the TdF CD? Is that only a short clip? Or is this something else altogether? Emanuel Mair wrote: > On 25-Nov-99 A.D., Måns Sjöstrand carved the following runes about "(kw) > Expo 2000 Audio clips": > > > http://www.emimusic.de have now put up audio clips from the new > > Kraftwerk relase. > > Could somebody please convert those streaming RA-files to a proper format > like MPEG-audio and upload them somewhere? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Victor Subject: (kw) EMI SITE EXPO 2000... Date: 25 Nov 1999 21:54:50 -0200 KRAFTWERK.EXPO 2000 1. Expo2000 Radio Mix http://www.emimusic.de/AUDIO/4/45006817.ram 2. Expo2000 Kling Klang Mix 2000 http://www.emimusic.de/AUDIO/4/45006818.ram 3. Expo2000 Kling Klang Mix 2001 http://www.emimusic.de/AUDIO/4/45006819.ram 4. Expo2000 Kling Klang Mix 2002 http://www.emimusic.de/AUDIO/4/45006820.ram -- Victor vh@urbi.com.br http://www.urbi.com.br/users/vh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean and Karen (and sometimes Duncan)" Subject: (kw) Digeridoo Date: 25 Nov 1999 21:26:37 -0500 Here is a weird request. Does anyone know of a good piece of shareware or freeware that is a decent digeridoo synthisizer.. My keyboard seems lacking such :) Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dante de Conti Neto" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Audio clips Date: 26 Nov 1999 00:27:00 -0200 Hi, The clips are available in mp3 format (only simple audio copy ram stream) in this url: ftp://200.211.68.4/audio/mp3/kraftwerk/ Dante. -----Mensagem original----- De: Bob VonMoss Para: Kraftwerk List Data: Quinta-feira, 25 de Novembro de 1999 19:59 Assunto: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Audio clips > >Are the TdF RA clips from the TdF CD? Is that only a short clip? Or is this >something else altogether? > >Emanuel Mair wrote: > >> On 25-Nov-99 A.D., Måns Sjöstrand carved the following runes about "(kw) >> Expo 2000 Audio clips": >> >> > http://www.emimusic.de have now put up audio clips from the new >> > Kraftwerk relase.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rgen_B=F6rjesson?= Subject: (kw) Expo2000 CD - sounds! Date: 26 Nov 1999 09:46:24 +0100 (MET) Hi Guys! Dunno if anyone else has broken the news wth this yet (since I only read the digest version of the list) but... There is now short excerpts from the Expo2000 CD (30s RealAudio from each song) at EMI Germanys homepage! Address; http://www.emimusic.de (then choose 'artists', 'Kraftwerk' and 'Diskografie' -> there you have it) Well, just thought you wanted to know.. BR /jorgen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward_Mordaunt@haygroup.com Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 - review Date: 26 Nov 1999 11:19:08 +0000 Frustratingly, i'm on my work PC which has no soundcard so i can't hear the Expo 200 clips. Can someone review it please? Does match our expectations?? Thanks Ed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) EMI SITE EXPO 2000... Date: 26 Nov 1999 11:51:24 +0000 Victor wrote: > > KRAFTWERK.EXPO 2000 Thanks a lot for those direct URLs (it saves having to navigate EMI's apalling website!). > 3. Expo2000 Kling Klang Mix 2001 > http://www.emimusic.de/AUDIO/4/45006819.ram Doesn't this sound a lot like 'You're My Kind of Climate' by Rip, Rig and Panic?! I don't have a copy of this, but list members in the UK may remember them from John Peel's show in the eighties, or from repeats of the BBC comedy series 'The Young Ones' (they performed this song in one episode)? Neneh Cherry was the vocalist. Does anyone agree/disagree? Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Audio clips Date: 26 Nov 1999 13:03:05 +0100 On Thu, 25 Nov 1999 18:22:13 +0200, Emanuel Mair wrote: > >On 25-Nov-99 A.D., M=E5ns Sj=F6strand carved the following runes about = "(kw) >Expo 2000 Audio clips": > >> http://www.emimusic.de have now put up audio clips from the new >> Kraftwerk relase. > >Could somebody please convert those streaming RA-files to a proper form= at >like MPEG-audio and upload them somewhere? I'm currently uploading them there: http://myftp.worldnet.net/bonald/pub= lic There are in uncompressed .wav format, if you want .au or .aif file inst= ead , please let me know > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tadream" Subject: (kw) tour de france CD single Date: 26 Nov 1999 15:21:45 +0100 where in Germany (except CyberCD) can i order the TDF single over the Net ? thnx tadream email: tadream@free.poltronic.net home page: http://www.adamszymanek.cjb.net uin: 35224126 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christian Reupke Subject: Re: (kw) tour de france CD single Date: 26 Nov 1999 15:38:30 +0100 At 15:21 26-11-99 +0100, tadream wrote: >where in Germany (except CyberCD) can i order the TDF single over the Net ? Try http://www.boxman.de/ -- Christian Reupke christian@reupke.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Sundkvist" Subject: (kw) Becks new record Date: 26 Nov 1999 12:22:46 CET Listen to the track "Get paid". You will find extracts from both "Home Computer" and "Numbers". /Erik ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Audio clips Date: 26 Nov 1999 17:44:48 +0200 On 26-Nov-99 A.D., Dante de Conti Neto carved the following runes about "= Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Audio clips": > The clips are available in mp3 format (only simple audio copy ram strea= m) > in this url: >=20 > ftp://200.211.68.4/audio/mp3/kraftwerk/ Thanks Dante and Arnaud! My first impression after having listened to the short clips just once ar= e that the new album will be Electric Caf=E9 with the Expo 2k "lyrics" put through a The Mix "filter"... But hey, it's NEW and ORIGINAL! :) --=20 E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: (kw) new tune Date: 26 Nov 1999 17:42:41 -0500 feel free to listen to my new song, leaving orlando. synthpop-elektro.. if i have to put it in a category. let me know what you think. karl\ http://www.mp3.com/wettin/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "MUSIK" Subject: (kw) new KW robots Date: 27 Nov 1999 17:02:12 +0100 How about new kw robots? (or maniquies??) You can find photos at 'biografie' section (emi.de) or this revew: http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/19991124120308.html At last KW moves !!!!! Juan Prieto - MuSiK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TECHNO" Subject: (kw) Die Mensch Maschine from Bs As calling Date: 26 Nov 1999 14:54:19 -0300 Hello everybody !!!....My name is John Paul , I=B4m in Buenos Aires , Argentina .I=B4m new in the list. I=B4m a big fan of Kraftwerk ...and the most magical music experience i f= elt, was on their Bs As. show on 12th october 1998. I=B4m 21 years old, electronic technician , studing electronics engeneeri= ng. Also I=B4m a ham radio operator, so you can imagine how i feel when i hea= r radioactivity and antenna....... Greets to everyone on this list. Thanks JP (icq number 34383355) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com Subject: (kw) Return of the real!!!! Date: 27 Nov 1999 22:10:04 -0500 He, I'm FEELIN' the new KW joint, especially the 2001 mix! This is what we've all been waiting for! The sound is Electric Café-technological with the old drum sounds in there for good measure. To avoid cliché, "Millennium" is probably not the choice for the album name, but "2000" is definitely appropriate, with the industrial age giving away to the information age. The next 1000 years is when the technological revolution will transmogrify. KW was on the cusp of something with EC, and the new song (and maybe album!) is a culmination of all these things that have made us ready for the next millennium. THEY'RE BACK! Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Fw: (kw) Die Mensch Maschine from Bs As calling Date: 28 Nov 1999 00:09:14 -0500 Also I´m a ham radio operator, so you can imagine how i feel when i hear radioactivity and antenna....... Greetings from the USA - I am also a ham radio operator, my name is Bill, and my callsign is N8TLC. 73 DE N8TLC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: (kw) TDF Disconet remix Date: 28 Nov 1999 15:28:38 +1100 Hi, does anybody know what year the disconet remix first came out? Also, does anybody have: Tour De France (Wicked Mix) WMCC-5 Clear vinyl 12" thanks, Vladimir # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Audio clips Date: 28 Nov 1999 09:31:42 +0100 Emanuel Mair wrote: > But hey, it's NEW and ORIGINAL! :) O, thank you for the info. I thought is was a parody ;-) Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: m.schmidt@top.east.de Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk-Live Date: 27 Nov 1999 11:59:00 +0100 Erstellt am: 27.11.99 - ist aber nicht unbedingt der Absendetag.=B7 Hallo Kraftwerk-Fans! Heute habe ich Post von meiner Expo-Quelle erhalten. Die Karten f=FCr das= =20 Kraftwerk-Konzert soll es im Dezember geben. Jedoch werden diese nur von = =20 der Expo vertrieben - also kein normaler VVK. Was die kosten sollen, ist = =20 noch nicht raus. Auch der genaue Konzert-Termin ist noch offen. Kraftwerk= =20 wollen "mit friends" auftreten und deshalb gibt es noch Koordienierungs-=20 Probleme. Das Konzert soll auf jeden Fall Anfang Juni 2000 sein. Auf der Emi Seite gibt es nun auch H=F6rproben der Maxie und neue Fotos d= er =20 Roboter. Aber das d=FCrftet ihr schon gesehen haben. Ich habe auf meiner Seite auch ein Interview mit Wolfgang Fl=FCr. In =20 n=E4chster Zeit werden auch einige Bilder zu sehen sein. Vom 19.11.99 bis 26.03.00 werden im Haus der Geschichte in Bonn die =20 originalen Kraftwerk-Puppen (H=FCtter, Schneider, Hilpert, Schmitz) =20 ausgestellt. -- Mit elektrischen Gr=FC=DFen,=B7 Marko ----------------------------------------------------- Germankraft die deutsche Kraftwerk-Homepage:www.kraftwerk.mdis.de ----------------------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Romulus Giovanni" Subject: (kw) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:11:03 GMT Date: 28 Nov 1999 13:23:10 -0700 Did anyone catch Saturday Night Live last night on NBC? They had this sketch about German video clip critics who were dressed a little Kraftwerk-ish. At the end they started dancing to a clip from Electric Cafe. Zamir ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Gartner Subject: Re: (kw) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:11:03 GMT Date: 28 Nov 1999 18:07:30 -0500 > Did anyone catch Saturday Night Live last night on NBC? They had this sketch > about German video clip critics who were dressed a little Kraftwerk-ish. At > the end they started dancing to a clip from Electric Cafe. This would be one of the famous "Sprockets" skits featuring Mike Myers of Austin Powers and Wayne's World fame. Supposedly a film based on the skit will be out next year. -ericg- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Gartner Subject: (kw) Florian at NIN Concert Date: 28 Nov 1999 18:47:45 -0500 Says Nine Inch Nails keyboard guy Charlie Clouser on NIN's official website: "Oh, and at the Dusseldorf performance, besides Florian Schneider (you do know who he is, don't you?), most of the people from Access, Waldorf, and TSI-GMBH were in attendance. Much love was exchanged in both directions." "the 21st century..." :) -ericg- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "vig" Subject: (kw) FS & FA: Large New Wave & More Personal Collection incl KRAFTWERK Many Rarities 1000+ titles Date: 28 Nov 1999 21:06:41 -0500 Hello again to those who purchased from me in my Spring sale. I’ve unearthed about 500 new items for my Winter sale an all are up on my site now at http://home.att.net/~vig/recordh.htm. For those new to my sales, I am parting with a great deal of my personal collection after collecting for more than 15 years. Included are tons of rare items, many standard issues and a few things you probably never knew were released (unless you wrote the artists' discography). Artists include: ABC, A-ha, Marc Almond/Soft Cell, Alphaville, Belouis Some, Beloved, Book Of Love, Boxcar, Camouflage, Cause & Effect, Cetu Javu, Cure, Depeche Mode, Duran Duran, Echo & The Bunnymen, Erasure/Vince Clarke, Eurythmics/Annie Lennox , Frazier Chorus, Hubert Kah, Information Society, Howard Jones, KLF/JAMMS, Kon Kan, Kraftwerk, Morrissey/Smiths, Sinead O’Connor, New Order/Electronic/Revenge, Normal/Silicon Teens, OMD, Pet Shop Boys, Psychedelic Furs/Love Spit Love, Red Box, Red Flag, Secession, When In Rome Yaz(oo)/Alison Moyet and many, many more. Many items are set sale but I will put some items up on eBay as well. New titles will be added to the auction bi-weekly with the first auctions starting later this week. The whole shebang , including ordering/shipping info, starts here: http://home.att.net/~vig/recordh.htm The eBay items can be found at http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=vig@worldne t.att.net If this URL is chopped in your mail reader just copy the whole thing and paste it into your browser. Here’s the Kraftwerk items Pocket Caculator 12" US Promo w/ Dentaku Great CPS PROA-951 Ebay Tour De France 12" US Remix + French vers PS 20146 Ebay Crosstalk CD German 3 tracks Single Ltd. Ed. Of 5,000 Gatefold 110363 Ebay TV CD German Single 2 versions PS SPV 055-92673 Ebay Thanks for looking. David http://home.att.net/~vig/recordh.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JTalbert Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Audio clips Date: 29 Nov 1999 04:48:59 -0800 > Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 18:22:13 +0200 > From: Emanuel Mair > Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Audio clips > > On 25-Nov-99 A.D., M=E5ns Sj=F6strand carved the following runes about "(= > kw) > Expo 2000 Audio clips": > > > http://www.emimusic.de have now put up audio clips from the new > > Kraftwerk relase. > > Could somebody please convert those streaming RA-files to a proper format > like MPEG-audio and upload them somewhere? Its done. I have posted these as MP3 at Efofex web site: http://www.efofex.net/2000/ Of course the audio quality is the same but having them in mp3 format makes looping much easier!! :-) Kindest regards, -John // efofex - noise has a new purpose http://www.efofex.net Only a few days until "Stress" begins...take a peek... http://www.efofex.net/stress.html Get a free sampler! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marcello Di Sante" Subject: (kw) There's something to say about the next millennium ... Date: 29 Nov 1999 10:47:18 +0100 Hi everybody !!!! I'm an old (33) Kw-fan and i got so excited listening to something new (AND VERY NICE, IT SEEMS !!!) from the band that inspirated me for all these years ... !!!! I've got an electro/wave/techno/drum 'n' bass band in Italy and we are preparing a tribute to Kw ... i will put the audio file to our site (www.KaiserSoze.net - the english version will be ready as soon as possible) WELL, THERE'S SOMETHING I HAVE TO SAY ... THE NEXT MILLENIUM DOESN'T START WITH THE YEAR 2000, BUT WITH THE 2001 !!!!! AND THE SAME IS FOR THE XXI CENTURY !!!!! THE YEAR 2000 IS THE LAST YEAR OF CENTURY XX, AND THE LAST YEAR OF THE SECOND MILLENNIUM (FROM 1001 D.C. TO 2000 D.C.) WE COUNT THE YEARS STARTING WITH <<1>> D.C., NOT WITH <<0>> D.C. !!!!! (i.e., the <> year is from 1 to 2, , not from 0 to 1, and so on !!!) ALL THIS ONLY HAS A MEANING FOR THOSE CULTURES THAT USE THIS KIND OF DATE, OF COURSE !!! I WONDER WHY NOBODY MENTIONS IT !!!! ANYWAY ALL WE ARE VERY HAPPY FOR NEW KW-RELEASES !!!!!!! BEST REGARDS P.BOY # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Finarvas Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 Date: 29 Nov 1999 17:36:31 +0100 Hmm I just heard the whole song on the radio here in Sweden.. I guess they have released the radio edit to the stations. Anyone knows when the new cd is coming out? /Finarvas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) EXPO 2000 Promo date Date: 29 Nov 1999 16:39:06 -0000 According to Martin Nutley of EMI UK, today is the day the promos of the new single are distributed. Somewhere out there now is the full version. Can anyone track it down. Come on Klaus we're relying on you. Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) There's something to say about the next millennium ... Date: 29 Nov 1999 16:53:06 +0000 Marcello Di Sante wrote: > THE NEXT MILLENIUM DOESN'T START WITH THE YEAR 2000, BUT WITH THE 2001 !!!!! [...] > I WONDER WHY NOBODY MENTIONS IT !!!! Because the public sees a new digit at the start of the year and jumps to the wrong conclusion; and the mass media (inc. science magazines, television and radio stations etc. - almost all of whom know better) would always rather play along with the public's assumptions than challenge them, all other things (agenda) being equal. :-( Still, at least those of us in the know get to celebrate this year and next. :-/ K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Familie de Haan Subject: Re: (kw) There's something to say about the next millennium ... Date: 29 Nov 1999 18:12:18 +0100 I mentioned it once here, but was flamed not to be such a bore... But your right. But hey, look at the bright side, now you can go to twice the millenium-parties! I kiss you too, Jeroen -- LIFE ON EARTH: Nuclear weapons can wipe out life on Earth if used properly. Cats like houses better than people. Dolphins find people amusing, but they don't want to talk to them. Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Finarvas Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO 2000 Promo date Date: 29 Nov 1999 18:49:13 +0100 Paul Martland wrote: > According to Martin Nutley of EMI UK, today is the day the promos of the new > single are distributed. Somewhere out there now is the full version. Can > anyone track it down. Come on Klaus we're relying on you. > > Paul Ok so it must be becouse of that I heard it on the radio.. /Finarvas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lrk@ik2000.se Subject: SV: (kw) EXPO 2000 Promo date Date: 29 Nov 1999 19:09:00 +0000 I heard the song on Swedish radio (and I recorded it!), the radio host wasn't that impressed it seemed... And at a brief listening I could agree, however once you've listened to it a couple of times it sure has its moments... there's especially one melody line that seems etched on my mind. The lyrics (for those interested) goes something like: expo 2000 (of course), the 21st century/21 Jahrhundert, man-nature-technology/Mensch-Natur-Technik. All in a very clear, not overly robotic voice. In fact, I think that this is perhaps the most notable thing with this song; a slight step back to a more human singing (i.e. non-robotic). To sum it all up: it's not GREAT, it's far to laid back/low profile. As I said though, you have to listen to it many times to really enjoy it. Since I'm only on my third listen, I should perhaps just end this message now. Anyhow, now you know that the song is out there and what to expect, but of course; this is just my humble opinion... //marcus/ ________________________________ http://www.angelfire.com/ma/tradespot # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: SV: (kw) EXPO 2000 Promo date Date: 29 Nov 1999 11:57:04 -0800 >I heard the song on Swedish radio (and I recorded it!), the radio host >wasn't that impressed it seemed... And at a brief listening I could >agree, however once you've listened to it a couple of times it sure has >its moments... there's especially one melody line that seems etched on my >mind. Do you think you could translate it into mp3 format for us all to hear? Because, you know, we just HAVE to hear it a couple days before the official release! ;> Regarding the official start of the millinium, yep, 2001 is the REAL beginning. Maybe that's why the 2001 remix is so funky compared to the others! Kraftwerk knows which date is the true start of the new millinium. heehee Thanks to those who posted the RA clips in mp3 format! I've got them looping on the computer as I type. How exciting that after all this time, there's a new Kraftwerk release! I, for one, like what I hear. ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stefan Norman Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 MP3 Date: 29 Nov 1999 21:10:05 +0100 Hi just found this site ;) some of you might find it interesting: http://www.geocities.com/expo2000_99/ Its the new single ("Radio Mix") minus some seconds in the beginng and the end but in high quality MP3 format. So who has the other versions? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Balgobin Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 MP3 Date: 29 Nov 1999 20:10:28 +0000 Stefan Norman wrote: > Hi just found this site ;) some of you might find it interesting: > http://www.geocities.com/expo2000_99/ > Its the new single ("Radio Mix") minus some seconds in the beginng and the > end but in high quality MP3 format. erm.........the link seems dead............ did you mistype it? andrew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 MP3 Date: 29 Nov 1999 12:31:01 -0800 >Hi just found this site ;) some of you might find it interesting: >http://www.geocities.com/expo2000_99/ >Its the new single ("Radio Mix") minus some seconds in the beginng and the >end but in high quality MP3 format. Thank you thank you! I really dig the new song. They work so hard on sound design... Every instrument is constantly changing its tone, reshaping its sound. I especially like the vocoder voices about 2:07 into the song. ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Liethen" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 MP#3 - Mirror Site Date: 29 Nov 1999 14:54:30 -0600 (CST) I've put up a mirror of the mp3 at: http://key.madison.tec.wi.us/kraftwerk-media-center/Kraftwerk_Expo_2000.mp3 > Hi just found this site ;) some of you might find it interesting: > http://www.geocities.com/expo2000_99/ > Its the new single ("Radio Mix") minus some seconds in the beginng and the > end but in high quality MP3 format. > So who has the other versions? -Peter Liethen pliethen@execpc.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:11:03 GMT Date: 29 Nov 1999 14:16:13 -0800 Yeah, the SNL: Best of Mike Meyers has the well done 'Dieters Dream' segment at the end. That was what it probably was. -Bill Eric Gartner wrote: > > > Did anyone catch Saturday Night Live last night on NBC? They had this sketch > > about German video clip critics who were dressed a little Kraftwerk-ish. At > > the end they started dancing to a clip from Electric Cafe. > > This would be one of the famous "Sprockets" skits featuring Mike Myers of > Austin Powers and Wayne's World fame. Supposedly a film based on the skit > will be out next year. > > -ericg- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: [Fwd: (kw) There's something to say about the next millennium ...] Date: 30 Nov 1999 09:41:09 +1100 Hi, my apologies for being off topic.. The millennium is born in 2000, just like when all of us were born we didn't start with year 1, we started with year 0 !!!!! BTW It is accepted now that the year that Jesus Christ was born was miscalculated, it is now believed that he was born about 3 AD, which makes this year 1997 actually and next year 1998...... I for one don't care about all this millenium hype, it's just a different number, many different cultures have different years now, ask the Jews (year 3000+) or the Japanese (year 10 or thereabouts).... they don't give a hoot about 2000.... regards, Vladimir # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) live chat with wolfgang fluer Date: 29 Nov 1999 16:32:41 -0700 markus schmitz wrote: >there is a live chat next monday (29.12.99) with wolfgang fluer >between 20h - 21.30h on http://www.cityweb.de So... how did it go? Today, when I went into the chat room, all I saw was Wolfgang staring at a PC (via a web cam on the left of the screen). I typed in a few questions and stuff, but he didn't answer back. I either had a fucked up connection or something, or he didn't give a shit about my crucial inquiries: which one is your favorite recipe? Would you like to be my interior designer? Jennifer Love Hewitt is freaking HOT, don't you think? Is a mosquito worst than a fly? Who in the heck is Dr Ugly? Do you like gladiator movies? Did Ralf got jealous at you for showering with Florian? Did any of the robots ever have sexual thoughts with Jaime from "Get Smart"? Have you ever heard Ralf singing Queen's "Bicycle Race"? Among many, many others... anyway, at least I tried... If anybody saved that chat log, please contact me. Thanks, Enrique np: "Pretty Hate Machine" NIN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: [Fwd: (kw) There's something to say about the next millennium ...] Date: 29 Nov 1999 17:42:45 -0800 Pardon me for going even further with this off topic discussion, but seriously everyone is effected and should be anticipating Y2K. Especially 3rd world nations who are not Y2K compliant. The ugly fact is that the global economy is dependent upon US Y2K compliance and therefore this means you. As a date, it's fairly significant to global technology standardization. A real test model without the model. Is that understood? Good. ;) -Bill Vladimir Tittl wrote: > > Hi, > > my apologies for being off topic.. > > The millennium is born in 2000, just like when all of us were born we > didn't start with year 1, we started with year 0 !!!!! > > BTW It is accepted now that the year that Jesus Christ was born was > miscalculated, it is now believed that he was born about 3 AD, which > makes this year 1997 actually and next year 1998...... I for one don't > care about all this millenium hype, it's just a different number, many > different cultures have different years now, ask the Jews (year 3000+) > or the Japanese (year 10 or thereabouts).... they don't give a hoot > about 2000.... > > regards, > > Vladimir # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Expo 2000" Review Date: 30 Nov 1999 02:43:47 +0000 Todays Neue Presse has a review of Kraftwerk's "Expo 2000" single (in German): http://np1.niedersachsen.com/NP/KULTUR/story26039.html Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: (kw) Text To Speech Expo2000 Date: 29 Nov 1999 19:28:35 -0700 I have a feeling KW created "The 21st Century", "...Nature,Technology", "Planet" spoken phrases with Lucent Technologies/Bell Labs Text to Speech software and then threw in some filters/effects. I entered "The 21st Century" using the man radio button and behold the same phrase in Expo2000. Same with the rest. The last phrases in the song seem to use the vocoder. Anyone agree? I still need to try "Planet" with the female voice. http://www.bell-labs.com/project/tts/voices.html http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/expo2000.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) live chat with wolfgang fluer Date: 29 Nov 1999 18:50:47 -0800 Did he know that you represented the listies? I think I might have another noose hidden in my desk... you silly, hateful mechanism. A couple dozen hits of blotter acid might make you think twice about that "sexual thoughts with Jaime from 'Get Smart'" inquiry. Was he cool the rest of the time? Did he respond to any serious questions about the book? -Bill Enrique Correa wrote: > > markus schmitz wrote: > >there is a live chat next monday (29.12.99) with wolfgang fluer > >between 20h - 21.30h on http://www.cityweb.de > > So... how did it go? Today, when I went into the chat room, all I saw was > Wolfgang staring at a PC (via a web cam on the left of the screen). I typed > in a few questions and stuff, but he didn't answer back. I either had a > fucked up connection or something, or he didn't give a shit about my crucial > inquiries: which one is your favorite recipe? Would you like to be my > interior designer? Jennifer Love Hewitt is freaking HOT, don't you think? Is > a mosquito worst than a fly? Who in the heck is Dr Ugly? Do you like > gladiator movies? Did Ralf got jealous at you for showering with Florian? > Did any of the robots ever have sexual thoughts with Jaime from "Get Smart"? > Have you ever heard Ralf singing Queen's "Bicycle Race"? Among many, many > others... anyway, at least I tried... > If anybody saved that chat log, please contact me. > Thanks, > Enrique > np: "Pretty Hate Machine" NIN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ouija@mail.com Subject: Re: (kw) Text To Speech Expo2000 Date: 29 Nov 1999 22:40:00 -0500 >I have a feeling KW created "The 21st Century", "...Nature,Technology", >"Planet" spoken phrases with Lucent Technologies/Bell Labs Text to Speech >software and then threw in some filters/effects. I couldn't agree more. I've used the TTS software myself pretty often and I made the connection as soon as I heard the "21st Century" line of the Expo 2000 mix. Good ear- ouija@mail.com __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Zaz" Subject: (kw) Six days and counting... Date: 30 Nov 1999 02:26:59 -0200 Hi all, I put all information about Kraftwerk Expo 2000 new release at my page (new robots shape, cover sleeve track list, credits and 30 sec MP3 samples). http://members.xoom.com/kraftworld peace Nicolau # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stefan Norman" Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 MP3 Date: 29 Nov 1999 17:27:30 +0100 Some of you might find this site interresting: http://www.geocities.com/expo2000_99/ Its the Radio version of the new singel in MP3 format, missing a few seconds in the start and the end, but in good quality. So anyone got the other versions? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: RE: (kw) EXPO 2000 Promo date Date: 29 Nov 1999 13:06:35 -0500 ] Ok so it must be becouse of that I heard it on the radio.. ] ] /Finarvas http://www.wettin.com/mp3/kraftwerk-expo2000.mp3 karl\ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmalis@mail.com (Jon Malis) Subject: Re: [Fwd: (kw) There's something to say about the next millennium Date: 29 Nov 1999 17:58:06 -0500 -------------Original Message------------- >ask the Jews (year 3000+) --------- Actually, it's 5760 To make this a valid message- I'm looking at analog modules/synths and was wondering if anyone has impressions as to which is better: Clavia Nord Lead 2,Waldorf Microwave XT or Access Virus Thanks, -Jon Independent Network Consultant Malis Consulting "640KB is enough for anybody" -Bill Gates Jon Malis jmalis@mail.com AOL/AIM: JonMalis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: RE: (kw) Text To Speech Expo2000 Date: 29 Nov 1999 21:54:24 -0500 ] I have a feeling KW created "The 21st Century", "...Nature,Technology", ] "Planet" spoken phrases with Lucent Technologies/Bell Labs Text to Speech ] software and then threw in some filters/effects. accaully, i've fooled around a bit with it just before you sent this mail. i belive we are right. just expand the voice a bit, and pitch it up, and you have that exact same voice. to be honsest, kraftwerk could do better. its hard for me to talk like this about them, but i sure hope that the boys did better on the other mixes. i'm a bit dissapointed. although, it's pure, simple minimalistic music, just the way i wanted it to be.. i just wanted it to be a bit more uh.., new. feels like something they skipped for the electric cafe, and used it now so that people would shutup about the DM400,000. although, this has been one succesfull trick from the marketers of expo2000, no doubt. DM400,000 for this ammount of publicity, world wide, is damn cheap. karl\ http://www.mp3.com/wettin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric.Schader@gambro.com Subject: RE: [Fwd: (kw) There's something to say about the next millennium Date: 30 Nov 1999 08:12:41 +0100 Hi I'm also sorry for being of topic too, but I'm afraid that you are wrong Vladimir. The fact is that there is no year 0. It all starts with year 1. Please check for yourself. BTW, I totally agree with the rest that you wrote. Kindest regards Eric ---------- Hi, my apologies for being off topic.. The millennium is born in 2000, just like when all of us were born we didn't start with year 1, we started with year 0 !!!!! BTW It is accepted now that the year that Jesus Christ was born was miscalculated, it is now believed that he was born about 3 AD, which makes this year 1997 actually and next year 1998...... I for one don't care about all this millenium hype, it's just a different number, many different cultures have different years now, ask the Jews (year 3000+) or the Japanese (year 10 or thereabouts).... they don't give a hoot about 2000.... regards, Vladimir # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric.Schader@gambro.com Subject: (kw) End of millenium hype (of topic) Date: 30 Nov 1999 08:44:27 +0100 Hi again. Here is something for Vladimir and the those who are interested. Almost everyone seems thinks that the year 2000 represents a milestone in human history: the dawn of the 21st century and the third millenium. Almost everyone is dead wrong. If you're using the same calendar as most of the rest of the world, it's AD1999 right now. If that's true, you're using the Gregorian calendar, one arbitrated by Pope Gregory the thirteenth in 1582. Gregory's calendar was simply a corrected version of the Julian calendar invented by Julius Ceasar in BC46. In both calendars, the birth of Christ is a reference point for the rest of time, as established by the 6th-century scholar Dionysius Exiguus (a Scythian monk named Dionysius Exiguus who was an abbot at a monastery in Rome and a father of canon law). When the calendar was revised in the sixth century, Christendom did not have the concept of the zero. That didn't arrive from the Arabs until much later. That basic omission has meant that every century since has not started on a round 00 number, but in an 01 year. Gregory the thirteenth set both the first AD year as 1 and the last BC year as 1. That means there was never a zero year, so two millennia (2000 years) after the first AD year is the year AD2001. So when you celebrate new year's eve this year, don't celebrate a new century or a new millennium. All it'll be is three zeros. In a row. I hope this will be the end of this. I could add something about KW to and that is that I believe that when they realize that the new millennium doesn't start until the year 2001, they will wait another year with their release. Kindest regards Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric.Schader@gambro.com Subject: RE: (kw) Expo 2000 MP3 Date: 30 Nov 1999 09:17:23 +0100 I must admit that I was quite skeptic about the last three "unknown" songs by KW (with the possible exception of "Tribal Gathering -97") but this one is quite beautiful. Sounds promising to me. But cutting edge... no way. Good enough though. Kindest regards Eric ---------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eugene Zaikonnikov" Subject: Re: (kw) live chat with wolfgang fluer Date: 30 Nov 1999 11:22:18 +0200 > rest of the time? Did he respond to any serious questions about the > book? > Well, I asked about the possibility of English edition. He said that it is already in preparation "with some extra words", and bounced me to Kirk Collins, who was also present in the chatroom. When I asked Kirk on how soon should we expect it, he replied with something like "patience. be patient as any real Kraftwerk/YAMO fan". -- Eugene. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 MP3 Date: 30 Nov 1999 11:56:55 +0100 Hi, Thank you for the URL. Well, at first listen, I must say honestly that I'm not impressed. Clearly, this is not the song of the century and I think we could really expect better from KW after all these years. Tey have done the minimal here. still, the KW-ish sound effects are here and of course they are enjoyable. But basically they use the same rythme at "Music Non Stop" , it's simply slower. We'll see with the others different mixes if they are any better, the 2001 one is probably more interesting anyway. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) End of millenium hype (of topic) Date: 30 Nov 1999 12:45:33 +0000 Yes, this discussion may be a bit OT, but does relate to the theme of the single, so I hope no-one minds... Eric.Schader@gambro.com wrote: >When the calendar was revised in the sixth > century, Christendom did not have the concept of the zero. That didn't > arrive from the Arabs until much later. That basic omission has meant that > every century since has not started on a round 00 number, but in an 01 year. Without disagreeing with your main argument, I would mention that the absence of a "year zero" is no problem at all. On the contrary, it would make chronologies extremely difficult. The situation we have under the BC/AD system is that there is (whether it was understood by the church or not!) _point_ zero separating years 1BC and 1AD. This is the best solution and should be immediately comprehensible to anyone who has been taught to draw a line graph. -|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--| -4 -3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3 4 <- BC AD-> When point 1 on the graph has been reached, a year has passed and year 1AD is over; year 2AD commences. By extending the graph we can see that: when 10 years have passed, year 10 AD ends and year 11 AD is about to start; when 100 years have passed, year 101 AD is about to start; when 1000 years have passed, year 1001 AD is about to start; when 2000 years have passed, year 2001 AD is about to start. We just need to remember that years "1AD", "4BC" etc. refer to a _span_ of time. 2000 years have passed when year 2000 _ends_ and year 2001 begins. The new millenium starts at the crossover point from 2000 to 2001. Arnaud de Bonald wrote: > Clearly, this is not the song of the century and I think we could really > expect better from KW after all these years. They still have another year to get it right. :-) Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peder Livijn" Subject: Re: [Fwd: (kw) There's something to say about the next millennium ...] Date: 29 Nov 1999 23:57:54 PST >I'm looking at analog modules/synths and was wondering if anyone has >impressions as to which is better: Clavia Nord Lead 2,Waldorf >Microwave XT or Access Virus > - Actually none of the above is analogue, if you want analogue buy vintag= e.=20 The best of the three you listed above is without a doubt the NORDLEAD,=20 although you can never recreate the real analogue sound on a digital=20 machine. The NORD dosn=B4t sound analouge but it comes pretty close, the = other=20 two suck intensivly, especially the Virus (so, stop hyping it!) /Peder ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Rundqvist Subject: RE: (kw) Text To Speech Expo2000 Date: 30 Nov 1999 14:13:48 +0100 (MET) But Hey.. In -81 they used the Texas Instrument's Speak and spell. What's so terribly wrong with this? I liked the tune. But it's only a remix of a jingle. I think we can expect cool stuff to happen 2000 //Roboten > accaully, i've fooled around a bit with it just before > you sent this mail. i belive we are right. > > just expand the voice a bit, and pitch it up, and you > have that exact same voice. to be honsest, kraftwerk > could do better. its hard for me to talk like this about > them, but i sure hope that the boys did better on the > other mixes. > > i'm a bit dissapointed. although, it's pure, simple > minimalistic music, just the way i wanted it to be.. > i just wanted it to be a bit more uh.., new. feels like > something they skipped for the electric cafe, and used > it now so that people would shutup about the DM400,000. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Luca Dassi" Subject: R: (kw) End of millenium hype (of topic) Date: 30 Nov 1999 15:54:42 +0100 Hi all, this argument is becoming exceedingly fine....while I agree that the 3rd millennium will start on Jan 1, 2001 I think that the psychological effect of the "turning of the zeroes" will be much more powerful than the beginning of an abstract concept such as a century or a millennium. After all, most of the counters we know and use (watches, odometers etc.) return to zero to indicate the beginning of a new "period". I'd like as well to point out a minor imprecision in Kevin's message: > the absence of a "year zero" is no problem at all. On the contrary, it would > make chronologies extremely difficult. This is arguable. The absence of a "year zero" keeps our calendar system out from the *relative* numbering system. If there had been a "year zero" we will not be arguing over when the next millennium starts and we would have saved ourselves some headaches while mesuring time spans across the BC/AD borderline. Answer quickly: how many years have passed between March 13, 1996 and March 13, 1997 ? That's easy, one year. Now: how many years have passed between March 13, 1 BC and and March 13, 1 AD? Those of us who answer "two years" are allowed to celebrate the arrival of the 3rd millennium on Jan 1, 2000 ;-) Ciao, *Luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Holton Subject: (kw) New song Date: 30 Nov 1999 16:57:32 -0000 At first listen (and thanks everyone for the mp3s) the 2001 mix sounds pooty funky (well the first 32 seconds) Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) End of millenium hype (off topic) Date: 30 Nov 1999 10:14:14 -0700 Kevin B. wrote: >Yes, this discussion may be a bit OT, but does relate to the theme >of the single, so I hope no-one minds... >[...] The new millenium starts at the crossover point from 2000 to 2001 Whatever guys, I for one, don't give a shit about any of this hype, remember that our particular calendar was the creation of some crazy bastards at church, and if you want to argue about its "correctness", is up to you. One thing's for sure, on New Year's eve, I'll be dancing my ass off to Prince's 1999, regardless if it is a new millenium or not! C'mon guys, sing it with me... "Don't stop, don't stop, say it one more time, 2000 zero zero party over, oops, out of time! (Yeah, yeah), So 2night I'm gonna party like it's 1999! (We gonna, we're gonna)..." Damn, I can feel it already... Who wants another BEER??? Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: R: (kw) End of millenium hype (of topic) Date: 30 Nov 1999 18:54:23 +0000 Luca Dassi wrote: > The absence of a "year zero" keeps our calendar system out > from the *relative* numbering system. If > there had been a "year zero" we will not be arguing over when the next > millennium starts and we would have saved > ourselves some headaches while mesuring time spans across the BC/AD > borderline. > Answer quickly: how many years have passed between March 13, 1996 and March > 13, 1997 ? That's easy, one year. > Now: how many years have passed between March 13, 1 BC and and March 13, 1 AD? > Those of us who answer "two years" are > allowed to celebrate the arrival of the 3rd millennium on Jan 1, 2000 ;-) Surely any confusion is due not to the absence of a year zero, but to the absence of negative dating of months. The years BC _are_ in effect dated negatively: 4 BC precedes 3 BC and so on. But as your example highlights, the ordering of _months_ BC run forward chronologically (e.g. March always precedes April, in years BC and AD). March 1 AD is "+2/12" on the graph (since 2 months of the 12-month year have passed since point 0) whereas March 1 BC is "-10/12" (since 10 months have to elapse till the end of the year, which is point 0 on the graph). The difference between these dates is (10 + 2)/12 months = 1 year. So it seems to me that neither intuition nor mathematics should lead one to get the answer "2 years"! ;-) I don't see what the introduction of a year zero would have solved, and there would have been a month which belonged to neither the first millenium AD nor the first millenium BC...? Ob. Kraftwerk: See! The burning issues of the day are still being dealt with by Ralf and Florian! Well, maybe. Electric Cafe saw the start of the move away from themes in Kraftwerk's songs, agreed? The new song(s) at the ZKM etc. seemed to be "about" nothing other than the music itself (fair enough). The forthcoming single is only nominally "about" the Expo or the year 2000. The medium has become the message, and the message seems to be: we are Kraftwerk; we sound like this. Are they giving the fans what they expect to hear? Or are they still exploring the concept of "Kraftwerk" (cf. their idea years ago of having different "Kraftwerks" for different nations!)? I reserve judgement till I hear the full single release and the new album (some time soon, surely...?!). But there are now many bands which sound like Kraftwerk. Should Kraftwerk be one of them? Just pondering... Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) End of millenium hype (off topic) Date: 30 Nov 1999 19:02:38 +0000 Enrique Correa wrote: > Whatever guys, I for one, don't give a shit about any of this hype, remember > that our particular calendar was the creation of some crazy bastards at > church, and if you want to argue about its "correctness", is up to you. The number of years in a millenium is a matter of numeracy, not theology. Anyone who says differently must burn! O>-( > So 2night I'm gonna party like it's 1999! Strictly speaking, you won't be able to party _like_ it's 1999 till next year. Oh dear, I seem to be turning into Mr Logic... Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) End of millenium hype (off topic) Date: 30 Nov 1999 13:55:24 -0700 >> So 2night I'm gonna party like it's 1999! >Strictly speaking, you won't be able to party _like_ it's 1999 till >next year. Oh dear, I seem to be turning into Mr Logic... OK Einstein, you call for it: you won't be on the guest list of my "Fuck Numerology and the Millenium Party" I'll be throwing Dec 31st of 1999 on Scottsdale! Now go play the congas with Stewart Copeland or some'! Hehe, just kidding Kev! Thanks for sharing your logical knowledge with the rest of us (got you! kidding again!) Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "nsw" Subject: (kw) Planet (female voice) Date: 30 Nov 1999 15:54:59 -0500 Hello The "female" voice heard saying "Planet" in the radio edit can also be heard on live Mix Tour bootlegs saying "1,2,3,4" on Numbers, and in Musique non-Stop. I don't think this voice is from the Bell Labs software, it seems like they've had it for a while. --Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charlie Crash" Subject: (kw) I'M BACK! and some 2000 nonsense Date: 30 Nov 1999 22:00:40 +0100 Hi, by the way, for those who remember me... The issue of the 2000 vs 2001 thing is irrelevant! The really important subject is all that old gear thats gonna crash and just go dead on 2000-01-01 00:00 'cos it cant handle the 00 or 2000 digit in its own timekeeping. There are very serious stuff that can drop dead. For example russian / easteurope lowbudget nuclear powerplants are in a dangerzone. Important bizniz using old systems are also in danger. But as there are o= nly 14 different types of years, its just a matter of tuning the gear back to one that applies. Well, whatever...the reason i'm back is that KW has AT LAST released some new stuff, I=B4m SOOO happy! But their homepage SUCKS! Why aren't THEY th= e first to release the news??? Regards to ROBOT, Love you! Charlie Crash # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Familie de Haan Subject: Re: R: (kw) End of millenium hype (of topic) Date: 30 Nov 1999 22:29:35 +0100 Could we end this discussion? PLEASEEEEEEE... -- Remember when you computer gives an error, it's because: the stack can dip into the heap for just a few cycles and not be caught by the stack sniffer - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Text To Speech Expo2000 Date: 30 Nov 1999 13:54:07 -0800 What may be a potentially scarey and an even more vampirical marketing ploy is if they release the single seperately in a variety of languages. All of the completionists and enthusiasts (us) would certainly collect all of them. The novelty would make Kraftwerk a household name for the 2000 events globaly. E-ville, and potentially blockbuster revenue... I'd do it. -Bill karl wettin wrote: > > ] I have a feeling KW created "The 21st Century", "...Nature,Technology", > ] "Planet" spoken phrases with Lucent Technologies/Bell Labs Text to Speech > ] software and then threw in some filters/effects. > > accaully, i've fooled around a bit with it just before > you sent this mail. i belive we are right. > > just expand the voice a bit, and pitch it up, and you > have that exact same voice. to be honsest, kraftwerk > could do better. its hard for me to talk like this about > them, but i sure hope that the boys did better on the > other mixes. > > i'm a bit dissapointed. although, it's pure, simple > minimalistic music, just the way i wanted it to be.. > i just wanted it to be a bit more uh.., new. feels like > something they skipped for the electric cafe, and used > it now so that people would shutup about the DM400,000. > > although, this has been one succesfull trick from the > marketers of expo2000, no doubt. DM400,000 for this ammount > of publicity, world wide, is damn cheap. > > karl\ > > http://www.mp3.com/wettin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) I'M BACK! and some 2000 nonsense Date: 30 Nov 1999 14:15:13 -0800 > Charlie Crash wrote: > > Hi, by the way, for those who remember me... > > The issue of the 2000 vs 2001 thing is irrelevant! The really important > subject is all that old gear thats gonna crash and just go dead on > 2000-01-01 00:00 'cos it cant handle the 00 or 2000 digit in its own Perhaps that's another reason for updating Kling Klang. Maybe some of their equipment was not Y2K compliant. :D Someone noticed that they are now using a modified Mac platform during the Tribal Gathering? What was that? > timekeeping. There are very serious stuff that can drop dead. For example > russian / easteurope lowbudget nuclear powerplants are in a dangerzone. Wow... I wonder if Sellafield would fall into that catagory? > Important bizniz using old systems are also in danger. But as there are only > 14 different types of years, its just a matter of tuning the gear back to > one that applies. That might prove difficult with some equipment, otherwise wouldn't that have already been implimented? Thus the possibility of nuclear "accidents". Poopy timekeeping = poopy atomics. Korrrrect to the ninth power... until this next year. > Well, whatever...the reason i'm back is that KW has AT LAST released some > new stuff, I´m SOOO happy! But their homepage SUCKS! Why aren't THEY the > first to release the news??? Because they are busy on an island off the coast of Italy working with the same clone team that brought us Dolly and Hanson. For a good while now they have been hidden away creating their exploding robot marriachi children to irradicate the global population when everyone is getting down to The Artist. Nobody typically suspects a child with a guitar to bring ultimate demise during a Prince song. Unless your Dennis Hopper or Albert Fish. -Bill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charlie Crash" Subject: (kw) A total collection? Date: 01 Dec 1999 00:13:40 +0100 Hi Is there anyone who knows if there are any mp3 cd's out with ALL the KW's collected werks, legal as bootleg? As a cd contains 737MB and mp3 is 1Meg / Minute it should sum up to 12 hours and 28 minutes of sweet KW music, and there hasn't been made that much! Or? Now, of course, is NOT a good time to make such a CD 'cos there's probably a new album arriving in the next year or so, but is there one mp3cd existing now? I'd buy one right away! Charlie Crash # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "nsw" Subject: (kw) Next Friday (off topic) Date: 30 Nov 1999 20:05:56 -0500 Hello Does anyone know when Ice Cube's new film "Next Friday" is getting to theatres? For those familiar with the original "Friday", "Next Friday" is just as awe-inspiring as a new Kraftwerk album. --Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angelo" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 MP3 Date: 01 Dec 1999 00:03:34 -0200 We brazilians must thank to the people what did have put the Expo2000 in mp3 file. Is there more versions in mp3 avilable? ============================================ //////////ANGELO///////////////////// angelo@urbi.com.br Miguel Angelo C. Praça////// http://www.urbi.com.br/users/angelo \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ICQ: 11606126 /////////////////////// ============================================ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) End of millennium hype (off-topic) Date: 30 Nov 1999 17:28:27 -0500 Why all this millennium bullshit anyway? In the Jewish calendar, the year is 5760. So what's the big fucking deal? Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angelo" Subject: (kw) Eletcric Cafe Date: 01 Dec 1999 00:05:36 -0200 Hi Werkers! Is there a Electric Cafe video clip? ============================================ //////////ANGELO///////////////////// angelo@urbi.com.br Miguel Angelo C. Praça////// http://www.urbi.com.br/users/angelo \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ICQ: 11606126 /////////////////////// ============================================ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Priscila Morsoletto Subject: (kw) Re: Electric Cafe Date: 01 Dec 1999 00:36:41 -0200 On 1 Dec 99 at 0:05, Angelo wrote: >Is there a Electric Cafe video clip? No Angelo, actually doesn't exist a Electric Cafe video clip. For this album exist Boing Boom Tschak/Musique Non Stop (with the poligon faces of them) and The Telephone Call. Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tapio Kiviniemi Subject: Analogue synthesizers (was Re: [Fwd: (kw) There's something to Date: 01 Dec 1999 06:16:14 +0200 At 17:58 29.11.1999 -0500, Jon Malis wrote: >I'm looking at analog modules/synths and was wondering if anyone has >impressions as to which is better: Clavia Nord Lead 2,Waldorf >Microwave XT or Access Virus Personally I don't own any of these (virtual analogues), but I have always liked Waldorf's stuff. ( http://www.waldorf-gmbh.de ) Keyboard mag. has their recent article online: http://www.keyboardmag.com/features/analogsyn/analogsyn.shtml BTW, the only analogue synthesizer on their review is FutureRetro 777. All others are digital synthesizers. I haven't read the whole article, but maybe you should not take it very seriously, since they deliberately confuse readers by misusing the term 'analog'. It may have some useful info and audio samples, though. And good places to search info on analogue and virtual analogue synthesizers are, of course AH: http://www.midiwall.com/aharchives/ ...and DH mailinglists: http://techno.king.net/synthetic-fruit/dh/ http://lists.resrocket.com/mailman/listinfo/digitalhell Regards, -ptk- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/