From: Fredrik =?iso-8859-1?Q?F=E4llman?= Subject: (kw) Expo lyrics Date: 01 Dec 1999 10:52:23 +0100 Hello! Just a short notice that Man - Nature - Technology (or Mensch - Natur - Technik) is the theme for the Expo2000 in Hannover, so it's not an original Kraftwerk text. I don=E4t know about "Planet of visions". regards Fredrik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eugene Zaikonnikov" Subject: (OT) Re: (kw) I'M BACK! and some 2000 nonsense Date: 01 Dec 1999 13:13:24 +0200 > Hi, by the way, for those who remember me... > > The issue of the 2000 vs 2001 thing is irrelevant! The really important > subject is all that old gear thats gonna crash and just go dead on > 2000-01-01 00:00 'cos it cant handle the 00 or 2000 digit in its own > timekeeping. There are very serious stuff that can drop dead. For example > russian / easteurope lowbudget nuclear powerplants are in a dangerzone. > No, they aren't. That systems either too primitive to encounter the problem (basically they has no clue what is date at all, let alone Y2K), or they're too new to suffer from it. The vast part of Y2K problem is in the old legacy code implemented in COBOL, which was very popular among Western banks and corporations but wasn't well-known in USSR. -- Eugene. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jon Alsbury" Subject: (kw) Re: Expo 2000 MP#3 - Mirror Site Date: 01 Dec 1999 11:33:32 -0000 many thanks Peter for making this availible. Unfortunately the one on Geocities got pulled earlier this morning as I was in the process of downloading it so I was dead chuffed to find it on your site instead. OK, I've listened to it about half a dozen times and I have to say I think it's quite wonderful. It's _stunning_ in it's simplicity. It gets better with each play. There's a human feel to it that make's it really special. 'man - nature - technology'. A whole album of similar material would be superb. That's my wish for the new year. Jon. >I've put up a mirror of the mp3 at: >http://key.madison.tec.wi.us/kraftwerk-media-center/Kraftwerk_Expo_2000.mp3 > >> Hi just found this site ;) some of you might find it interesting: >> http://www.geocities.com/expo2000_99/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: RE: (kw) Expo 2000 +New robots Date: 01 Dec 1999 13:07:04 +0100 Jon Wrote: OK, I've listened to it about half a dozen times and I have to say I think=20= it's quite wonderful=2E It's _stunning_ in it's simplicity=2E =20= I couldnt agree more, not easy to make minimalistic music, only one group I=20= know about can make it all the way, guess which! (John Foxx was pretty good aswell on his Metamatic) Regarding the new robots-picture, I've noticed that all the bodys (exept for=20= the heads) are identical, shot from the exact same angel, but the heads are=20= from different angels because of the perspective=2E (I'm talking of the "kraftwerk1=2Ejpg" on=20= http://www=2Eemimusic=2Ede/artists/kraftwerk/bilder/kraftwerk1=2Ejpg ) It seems that they only has ONE robot ready (yet) and that somebody has done=20= a good? job in Photoshop=2E A happy Johan waiting for my EXPO2k-single and the NEW ALBUM! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Date: 01 Dec 1999 19:40:33 +0100 6th December 1999 > Anyone knows > when > the new cd is coming out? > > /Finarvas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: SV: (kw) EXPO 2000 Promo date Date: 01 Dec 1999 19:40:02 +0100 Let me just tell you: I love it :-) > To sum it all up: it's not GREAT, it's far to laid back/low profile. As I > said though, you have to listen to it many times to really enjoy it. > Since I'm only on my third listen, I should perhaps just end this message > now. > > Anyhow, now you know that the song is out there and what to expect, but > of course; this is just my humble opinion... > > //marcus/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) Planet (female voice) Date: 01 Dec 1999 19:48:06 +0100 According to Bussy's book, it's a simulation of Rebecca Allen's voice, the artist who created the videoclip of "Music Non Stop". > The "female" voice heard saying "Planet" in the radio edit can also be heard > on live Mix Tour bootlegs saying "1,2,3,4" on Numbers, and in Musique > non-Stop. I don't think this voice is from the Bell Labs software, it seems > like they've had it for a while. > > --Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 Review Date: 01 Dec 1999 14:56:42 EST It's great. So much better than the other new tracks they have premiered over the last few years at concerts. It's got a chilling humanity to it because the simulated voices are close to the real thing, but evidently still machines. The effect is reminiscent of Radiohead's little intermission on OK Computer. If the album maintains that level of clarity and emotion it will be a stunner. Gut gemacht, jungs ! Hoffentlich wird's "immer weiter geh'n" ! K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 +New robots Date: 01 Dec 1999 15:50:21 -0800 > Jon Wrote: > It seems that they only has ONE robot ready (yet) and that somebody has done a good? job in Photoshop. And a very poor photoshop job indeed. There are flaws all over the image. Notice the repeated huge flaw in the feet. This isn't just a jpg, it's basically Britney Spears porn to me. Lame. When they applied the color wash to the background, they wiped out the hand on the far right. The shadows are very different, and that's wonderful, but why does the robot in the far right hand have a square ear/eyeglass shadow? Poor editing, that's why. The spirit of 'Man Machine' is lost in exact duplication. They are no longer similar components, they are cookie cutter images. Undoubtedly EMI's decision making at werk. -Bill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Your Name Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Review Date: 01 Dec 1999 18:28:12 -0600 I do not necessarily dislike "EXPO.2000" (radio version). It does not achieve anything more than the sum of its parts. Maybe it will after it is released but I cannot see any indication of that. While listening to the three unreleased live songs I always felt that there was a lot of promise. Partly that is because I prefer the heavier rhythms. But also, each of those songs had much more variety and creative interaction than this latest track. As someone said, it's just a remix of a jingle. I am glad for that as I'd be upset with an entire album of ultra-distilled music. I am venturing into dangerous territory here, as distillation and simplification of musical data is a major part of Kraftwerk. I feel that the primary purpose of the distillation method is to be able to make music which is very simple and direct, and at the same time to contain many ideas and emotions in that music. That doesn't happen here. Perhaps they are up to something. In all I am grateful that the single is being released. I wish to avoid confusing it with other aspects. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Washington" Subject: (kw) new Beck CD Date: 01 Dec 1999 20:37:35 -0600 I'm curious to learn if any others on the list have heard the new Beck CD. There's a track called "Get Real Paid" full of Kraftwerk samples. Any reactions out there? Michael Washington Owensboro, KY USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) new Beck CD Date: 01 Dec 1999 21:55:02 EST There are two definite samples from Computer World, one from "Pocket Calculator" and the other from "Home Computer". There are other sounds that could be from Computer World, but Beck could have made those himself. I've only heard the album once. I do not yet have a copy of my own. I'm waiting until I can get the Japan of U.K. version with the bonus track. In some parts of the album, I noticed an improvement in Beck's lyrics. I like Beck a lot, but I'm not much of a fan of the lyrics he writes most of the time. They're either too random or too predictable. But in this one new track, I think that it is called "Hollywood Freaks", I really liked the lyrics. I thought they were good overall and they went together nicely. Sam Paterson << I'm curious to learn if any others on the list have heard the new Beck CD. There's a track called "Get Real Paid" full of Kraftwerk samples. Any reactions out there? Michael Washington Owensboro, KY USA >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HigbyHogan@aol.com Subject: (kw) Midnite Vultures Date: 01 Dec 1999 22:00:38 EST The new Beck album is quite good; the track "Get Real Paid" contains sections which sample or emulate "Numbers," "Home Computer" and "Pocket Calculator." The song is packed with electronic quirks and flourishes. Any Faust fans on the list? I recently saw them here in Pittsburgh, USA on their brief tour; a true Krautrock assault, a Korperschlager of a show. Did anyone else chance to see them on this tour? Higby # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Midnite Vultures Date: 01 Dec 1999 22:18:49 EST I saw Faust in Pittsburgh too. It was a great show. But I was up front, and the smoke from those signal flares made me sick. I picked up the Faust In Japan video, the untitled CD, and of course a t-shirt. Yeah I like Faust. They're great. Since we're on the topic, does anybody know where I can find a CD of their album "So Far"? I know it's been out of print for a while. A fried of mine was talking to Hans-Joachim Irmler's wife (who was selling the items), and she said that the band was trying to get the rights to that album. Sam Paterson << Any Faust fans on the list? I recently saw them here in Pittsburgh, USA on their brief tour; a true Krautrock assault, a Korperschlager of a show. Did anyone else chance to see them on this tour? Higby >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Plutonium" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 +New robots Date: 01 Dec 1999 18:20:15 CST >The spirit of 'Man Machine' is lost in exact duplication. They are no >longer similar components, they are cookie cutter images. Undoubtedly >EMI's decision making at werk. > >-Bill Actually, had they wanted an original spin on KW's machine/mass production themes, they could've done something like take the exact measurements and facial characteristics of all 4 members, feed them into the computer, and then average them to create a single model of a human that has never existed, but bears a slight resemblence to each member, and from there create 4 identical mannequins. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: (kw) 'computer crash' Date: 01 Dec 1999 22:29:07 -0500 there is an mp3 on my mashine, computer crash.mp3. i dont know where i got it, and i have no clue of who made it. its 5:31 long. the 'lyrics' is a vocoded syntetic voice that repeats 'computer crash' alot. its very kraftwerk influenced. does anyone know who this is? http://www.wettin.com/mp3/Computer%20Crash.mp3 karl\ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Young Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #359 Date: 01 Dec 1999 09:23:49 -0800 (PST) Marcello Di Sante" > WELL, THERE'S SOMETHING I HAVE TO SAY ... > THE NEXT MILLENIUM DOESN'T START WITH THE YEAR 2000, > BUT WITH THE 2001 !!!!! > AND THE SAME IS FOR THE XXI CENTURY !!!!! ... > I WONDER WHY NOBODY MENTIONS IT !!!! Frankly, besides the replies already posted here (I get the digest these days), I hear plenty of people mentioning this fact. Furthermore, I don't see why people have to make a big deal out of it. Celebrate the year 2000 this year and the millennium next year. Unless there are any centenarians on this list (pretty unlikely), we've all always written the date as 19xx, and I think that moving from 1999 to 2000 will be a much more dramatic leap than 2000 to 2001. Jeff __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Victor Subject: Re: (kw) live chat with wolfgang fluer Date: 01 Dec 1999 16:06:58 -0200 The only sentence that I got that he spoke was womanamanamanamama... Antenna-KW... -- Victor vh@urbi.com.br http://www.urbi.com.br/users/vh Enrique Correa wrote: > markus schmitz wrote: > >there is a live chat next monday (29.12.99) with wolfgang fluer > >between 20h - 21.30h on http://www.cityweb.de > > So... how did it go? Today, when I went into the chat room, all I saw was > Wolfgang staring at a PC (via a web cam on the left of the screen). I > typed.......... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Robot" Subject: Re: Analogue synthesizers (was Re: [Fwd: (kw) There's something to say about Date: 01 Dec 1999 15:39:16 GMT > >At 17:58 29.11.1999 -0500, Jon Malis wrote: > >I'm looking at analog modules/synths and was wondering if anyone has > >impressions as to which is better: Clavia Nord Lead 2,Waldorf > >Microwave XT or Access Virus > >Personally I don't own any of these (virtual analogues), but I have always >liked Waldorf's stuff. >( http://www.waldorf-gmbh.de ) > >Keyboard mag. has their recent article online: >http://www.keyboardmag.com/features/analogsyn/analogsyn.shtml >BTW, the only analogue synthesizer on their review is FutureRetro 777. All >others are digital synthesizers. I haven't read the whole article, but >maybe you should not take it very seriously, since they deliberately >confuse readers by misusing the term 'analog'. It may have some useful info >and audio samples, though. This article puts a dubious spin on the entire analog phenomenon, and then goes on to rate virtual analog synths, which are not the real thing. The lure of analog is not the difference between cheap gear and expensive gear, as the article implies, it's the difference between a Stock Aitken Waterman song and a Kraftwerk song. Of course, people will always prefer the real sounds, even if record companies spent the years 1986-1996 stuffing digital crap down everyone's throats. For my money, don't waste your money on modeling synths -- you can spend the same amount and get better sounds and control on the genuine article instead. Patrick ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Finbom" Subject: (kw) New Album? Date: 02 Dec 1999 08:30:37 +0100 >Hello fellow Kraftwerker's! > I just had to re-join this mailing list today. bcuz.. > I heard something wonderfull on the radio yesterday, and they been = > playing alot of Kraftwerk on the radio the past days. > > I heard a NEW Kraftwerk song.=20 > > So now i wants to know. Whats happening? Where can i find info about the = > new stuff? > > Best regards. Magnus Finbom / Sweden > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) 'computer crash' Date: 02 Dec 1999 12:41:56 +0100 Hi! I'm not sure, but it sounds a lot like Kraftwelt. The vocoder is much like the one they have used in other songs. If it's Kraftwelt it's quite plausible to say it's Kraftwerk inspired... /Joakim -----Original Message----- ... 'computer crash' alot. its very kraftwerk influenced. does anyone know who this is?... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Patrik Mattsson Subject: [Fwd: Message Bounce: Re: (kw) 'computer crash'] Date: 02 Dec 1999 13:04:04 +0100 Hello werkers The song it's not made by Kraftwelt. It's made the english group Komputer, and if I don't remember completely wrong you can find it on their first singel called "Komputer EP". Over and out /Patrik "Svensson, Joakim" wrote: > > Hi! > > I'm not sure, but it sounds a lot like Kraftwelt. The vocoder is much like > the one they have used in other songs. If it's Kraftwelt it's quite > plausible to say it's Kraftwerk inspired... > > /Joakim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: (kw) New picture on www.emimusic.com Date: 02 Dec 1999 14:29:42 +0100 There's a brief note (in german) about E2k and a small animated picture on the main page of above mentioned site. /Joakim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) 'computer crash' Date: 02 Dec 1999 07:28:31 -0700 Patrik wrote: >It's made the english group Komputer, and if I don't remember >completely wrong you can find it on their first singel called >"Komputer EP". That's correct. The name of Komputer's song is actually "Komputer Krash". That EP also includes a clone of "Neon Lights" called "Oh Synthesizer". They do a fairly good job as a tribute band. Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric Oehler" Subject: (kw) OT: Re: Faust Date: 02 Dec 1999 08:59:21 -0600 > > I saw Faust in Pittsburgh too. It was a great show. But I was up front, and > the smoke from those signal flares made me sick. I picked up the Faust In > Japan video, the untitled CD, and of course a t-shirt. Yeah I like Faust. > They're great. For those interested, Q-Burns Abstract Message does a pretty cool cover of "Jenifer" on his last album, featuring Gus Gus's Daniel Agust on vocals. It's very well done, and gets a very definite krautrock feel in amongst the laid-back "electronica." _________________________________________________________________ Eric Oehler www.kiwi-media.com wonko@nulldevice.com www.nulldevice.com My hovercraft is full of eels. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) End of millenium hype (off topic) Date: 02 Dec 1999 15:53:27 +0000 Enrique Correa wrote: > OK Einstein As Einstein would say, it's all Relative. :-D > , you call for it: you won't be on the guest list of my "Fuck > Numerology and the Millenium Party" I'll be throwing Dec 31st of 1999 on > Scottsdale! Maybe for your party you should make a "millennium mix" of 'Numbers?'. Instead of "ein - zwo - drei - vier", there would be the countdown of "vier - drei - zwo - ein - 2000"? You could segue it into 'Auld Klang Sine'. > Now go play the congas with Stewart Copeland or some'! Eh? > Hehe, just kidding Kev! Thanks for sharing your logical knowledge with the > rest of us (got you! kidding again!) Oo you rotter. K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 +New robots Date: 02 Dec 1999 17:05:41 +0100 I don't think, this robots are new. I rather guess this are the old ones, reworked: wearing this cyber-suits and finally having legs ;-) Gubbolf William Talley wrote: > > > Jon Wrote: > > It seems that they only has ONE robot ready (yet) and that somebody has done a good? job in Photoshop. > > And a very poor photoshop job indeed. There are flaws all over the > image. Notice the repeated huge flaw in the feet. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dean" Subject: (kw) Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 08:24:12 GMT Date: 02 Dec 1999 09:16:34 -0700 Hey! Matt here, still with a fucked up CD-RWer. According to CeQuadrat's (WinOnCD) helpdesk, my Sony CRX100ERP can't make 80min CDs. With 'track at once' I can, but it won't finalise. But I can easily blame this on the programme; before I formatted the fucker it wouldn't even read my normal D: drive anymore...so can it make 80mins or not? The guy in the shop reckoned I could. Also, if I can't finalise the CD anyway, can someone else finalise it in another CD player with a different program? (thinking of a mate called Runar from Iceland; I'm making 2x 80mins for him but I can't finalise them, if I just sent them could he finalise them???) Mad about the new single (although I've only heard the rather weird 30s promos, I'm still going to Emmerich to buy it next week) Mattwerk www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palace/8922/kwlangu.htm "as visited by Karl Bartos and Wolfgang Fluer" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lloyd Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #360 Date: 02 Dec 1999 07:20:54 -0500 on 12/1/99 10:57 PM, kraftwerk-digest at "nsw" wrote: > Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:54:59 -0500 > From: "nsw" > Subject: (kw) Planet (female voice) > > Hello > > The "female" voice heard saying "Planet" in the radio edit can also be heard > on live Mix Tour bootlegs saying "1,2,3,4" on Numbers, and in Musique > non-Stop. I don't think this voice is from the Bell Labs software, it seems > like they've had it for a while. If I am not mistaken, I think that is a voice from the Mac OS text-to-speech software. -- Email: fridge@sympatico.ca Fido: grizz@fido.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lloyd Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #360 Date: 02 Dec 1999 07:25:58 -0500 on 12/1/99 10:57 PM, kraftwerk-digest at fredrik.fallman@orient.su.se wrote: > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 10:52:23 +0100 > From: Fredrik =?iso-8859-1?Q?F=E4llman?= > Subject: (kw) Expo lyrics > > Hello! > > Just a short notice that Man - Nature - Technology (or Mensch - Natur - > Technik) is the theme for the Expo2000 in Hannover, so it's not an original > Kraftwerk text. I don=E4t know about "Planet of visions". The Expo 2000 web site contains information about projects that are going on outside of Germany. Mostly, they're social, or environmental projects. Check out the Expo website, and it explains in detail what these projects are about - certainly a planet of visions. -- Email: fridge@sympatico.ca Fido: grizz@fido.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Romulus Giovanni" Subject: (kw) Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 15:05:29 GMT Date: 02 Dec 1999 09:19:28 -0700 Hey guys, Have any of you used the Yamaha AN1X? I was interested in getting some feedback. Zamir ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "nsw" Subject: (kw) Books Date: 02 Dec 1999 15:17:33 -0500 Hello After thinking about both Kraftwerk books, I think its time a third one showed up and perhaps did a better job. I nominate Klaus Zaepke to write one, he seems like an expert and there's no doubt that he'd get a publisher. How about it Klaus? --Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Books Date: 02 Dec 1999 15:14:26 -0700 Nate wrote: >After thinking about both Kraftwerk books, I think its time a >third one showed up and perhaps did a better job. Does "Kraftwerk_Ich war ein Roboter" ring a bell? Speaking of bells, Mike Oldfield just released his "Millennium Bell". Enrique. FYI, http://www.iserv.net/~chapmanr/page23.htm is a site about upcoming releases (a very juicy one indeed). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Books Date: 02 Dec 1999 23:45:33 +0000 > After thinking about both Kraftwerk books, I think its time a third one > showed up and perhaps did a better job. I nominate Klaus Zaepke to write > one, he seems like an expert and there's no doubt that he'd get a publisher. > How about it Klaus? Many thanks for the compliment, but I don't want to get sued by Kraftwerk. :-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 +New robots Date: 02 Dec 1999 23:45:32 +0000 > It seems that they only has ONE robot ready (yet) and that somebody > has done a good? job in Photoshop. No, all four "robots" are available. They're displayed at the Haus der Geschichte in Bonn at the moment. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Tagesspiegel article Date: 02 Dec 1999 23:45:33 +0000 Todays Tagesspiegel has a review of Kraftwerk's "Expo 2000" single (in German): http://www.tagesspiegel.de/archiv/1999/12/01/ak-ku-mu-20536.html Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo lyrics Date: 02 Dec 1999 23:45:32 +0000 > Just a short notice that Man - Nature - Technology (or Mensch - Natur - > Technik) is the theme for the Expo2000 in Hannover, so it's not an original > Kraftwerk text. I don't know about "Planet of visions". Yes, it's an EXPO phrase as well. See http://expo05.expo2000.de/cgi/db4web_c/ibis/tpt/docs/tpt_basis.mth? spr_id=1&tpt_id=6010 See also http://expo05.expo2000.de/cgi/db4web_c/ibis/tpt/docs/tpt_basis.mth? spr_id=1&tpt_id=6011 ("The 21st Century / Das 21ste Jahrhundert") Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Review Date: 02 Dec 1999 15:00:57 -0800 > Your Name wrote: > > I do not necessarily dislike "EXPO.2000" (radio version). It does not > achieve anything more than the sum of its parts. Maybe it will after > it is released but I cannot see any indication of that. > > While listening to the three unreleased live songs I always felt that > there was a lot of promise. Partly that is because I prefer the > heavier rhythms. But also, each of those songs had much more variety > and creative interaction than this latest track. > > As someone said, it's just a remix of a jingle. I am glad for that as > I'd be upset with an entire album of ultra-distilled music. I am venturing > into dangerous territory here, as distillation and simplification of > musical data is a major part of Kraftwerk. > > I feel that the primary purpose of the distillation method is to be > able to make music which is very simple and direct, and at the same > time to contain many ideas and emotions in that music. > > That doesn't happen here. Perhaps they are up to something. > > In all I am grateful that the single is being released. > I wish to avoid confusing it with other aspects. Wow, are you single? I couldn't agree with you more. For me, the interesting part about the single radio edit is when the vocoding of "Expo2000" in english literally shifts into a completely different piece. The background pad sweeps at a different rate, etc, but only when that chorus kicks in. Quite amateur for a Kraftwerk production. So, either this is a mish-mash of ideas or a rather uninspired radio edit. I do like the piece. The q-tips are quality, the bass is melodic and complimentary to the distortion on the "orchestral hits". It has a lot of filter action and excellent production quality, however, the amount of minor flaws in this edit makes this just another bit of house music. -Bill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "davethewave@excite.com" Subject: (kw) aktivitaet Date: 02 Dec 1999 15:00:11 -0800 (PST) does anybody know where ian calder has dissapeared too???? _______________________________________________________ Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 +New robots Date: 02 Dec 1999 15:26:45 -0800 Dude, did you have a hand in creating the Hanson clones? You are perverse, but correct. By replacing the heads of each member with a non-descript form, not too unlike a face, you might come out with that very same jpg!! In fact, why not dress each of the mannequins as housekeepers and pose them in various states of work. An EMI exec should pop in dressed in a black tights and pasties with razors taped to his fingers attempting to shred the drapes/couch/etc being cleaned. I know surgical tubing could be implimented, however that is going into a very Isabella Rossellini meets Die Form kinda kink. The level of thought involved is staggering (here's your chance). Stop toying with us! "Man Machine your house is unclean!" -Bill "Mr. Plutonium" wrote: > > >The spirit of 'Man Machine' is lost in exact duplication. They are no > >longer similar components, they are cookie cutter images. Undoubtedly > >EMI's decision making at werk. > > > >-Bill > > Actually, had they wanted an original spin on KW's machine/mass production > themes, they could've done something like take the exact measurements and > facial characteristics of all 4 members, feed them into the computer, and > then average them to create a single model of a human that has never > existed, but bears a slight resemblence to each member, and from there > create 4 identical mannequins. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angelo" Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 MP3 song Date: 02 Dec 1999 23:57:10 -0200 Hi Werkers!!! Does anyone knows if is there other site what have the complete mp3 from Expo 2000? That in geocities don't is possible find it! : -( ============================================ //////////ANGELO///////////////////// angelo@urbi.com.br Miguel Angelo C. Praça////// http://www.urbi.com.br/users/angelo \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ICQ: 11606126 /////////////////////// ============================================ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: (kw) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Die_Vision=E4re_?= Date: 02 Dec 1999 19:14:16 -0700 "Die Vision=E4re von einst haben ihre Zukunftsgl=E4ubigkeit verloren." (h= eadline in German newspaper) Visionary Kraftwerk? http://djfxc.tripod.com/expo2000.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim L. Jones" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Review Date: 02 Dec 1999 23:21:11 -0500 De-Lurking (verking??) to say I've heard the "jingle" and I quite like it.. The question I want to ask though... Did/Does anyone here really expect at this point in time that Kraftwerk is going to do something ground breaking?? If you are, my guess is you're going to be very disapointed... I'm just glad to hear something new from them. I ask no more... so for those who are going to go into massive dissections of this and whatever else may come from R&F in the near future I for one will more than likely just pass them by.. I just ask to be entertained, and on the whole Kraftwerk have done that for me... thanks.. Jim J. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Review Date: 02 Dec 1999 21:12:16 -0800 Damned right. And if I ever get the opportunity to meet them, I think that I may present them to the wonders of the "caffine mint". -Bill "Jim L. Jones" wrote: > > De-Lurking (verking??) to say I've heard the "jingle" and I quite > like it.. > > The question I want to ask though... Did/Does anyone here really > expect at this point in time that Kraftwerk is going to do something > ground breaking?? If you are, my guess is you're going to be > very disapointed... > > I'm just glad to hear something new from them. > I ask no more... > > so for those who are going to go into massive dissections > of this and whatever else may come from R&F in the near > future I for one will more than likely just pass them by.. > I just ask to be entertained, and on the whole Kraftwerk > have done that for me... > > thanks.. > Jim J. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oleg Rekutin Subject: Re: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #360 Date: 02 Dec 1999 11:38:05 -0500 Thursday, December 02, 1999, 7:20:54 AM, Bruce wrote: BL> on 12/1/99 10:57 PM, kraftwerk-digest at "nsw" wrote: >> The "female" voice heard saying "Planet" in the radio edit can also be heard >> on live Mix Tour bootlegs saying "1,2,3,4" on Numbers, and in Musique >> non-Stop. I don't think this voice is from the Bell Labs software, it seems >> like they've had it for a while. BL> If I am not mistaken, I think that is a voice from the Mac OS text-to-speech BL> software. This is a little OT, but I've also heard a lot of samples of same Mac OS text-to-speech software in a German eurodance song "Rosa Wolke" by Bluemchen. I would suspect that there are a good number of other artists who use such readily available tools (such as Mac OS or Bell Labs text-to-speech) in their songs to create "robotic" voices (and perhaps hoping that the "average listener" never heard those?) Oleg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "nsw" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Review Date: 03 Dec 1999 06:57:05 -0500 Hello >so for those who are going to go into massive dissections >of this and whatever else may come from R&F in the near >future I for one will more than likely just pass them by.. I agree completely. Instead of dissecting piece by piece the new material KW presents, I will try to listen to it with the same awe and wonder as when I first heard their other stuff. --Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Review Date: 03 Dec 1999 08:29:04 -0700 Jim Jones wrote: >I'm just glad to hear something new from them. >I ask no more... [..] I just ask to be entertained, >and on the whole Kraftwerk have done that for me... I agree with you. BTW, try to stay away from that Cool Aid, Jim Enrique. np: Orbital "Snivilisation" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TiMeZeRo [Daniel Mark]" Subject: EXPO 2000 is fantastic! (kw) Date: 03 Dec 1999 18:41:31 +0100 I must say that iam amazed. This is what im searching for! I dont hope this is kraftwersk last material. They are getting old, but this is getting good. (Well i played expo2000 24 times nont stop) What should I say? Im waiting for a big nice album. I hope i get the maxiCD fast... =) Daniel --------------------- TiMezero /Daniel Mark timezero@home.se ICQ 9598928 ---------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charlie Crash" Subject: (kw) Tour De France CD Date: 03 Dec 1999 19:53:27 +0100 Is it possible to order this from somewhere? Tour De France 1. Tour De France 2. Tour De France 3. Tour De France 4. Video: Tour De France Katalognr.: 8874210 ver=F6ffentlicht am 05.07.1999 1 CD-Extra Charlie Crash # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Tour De France CD Date: 03 Dec 1999 11:27:48 -0800 >Is it possible to order this from somewhere? > > >Tour De France > >1. Tour De France >2. Tour De France >3. Tour De France >4. Video: Tour De France > > >Katalognr.: 8874210 >ver=F6ffentlicht am 05.07.1999 >1 CD-Extra Try this online music store: http://www.cdconnection.com/ They have great prices. They also have "Kraftwerk" and "Kraftwerk 2" available! ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spotnik@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Review Date: 03 Dec 1999 14:38:53 EST Haven't replied to anything in a while... I have to say I like the Expo 2000 track. Here's the dilemma, as I see it--for people to like any new Kraftwerk material, it has to sound not too much the same as previous material, but not too different either! Otherwise, it would sound "un-Kraftwerk." The synth washes, sharp electronic percussion transients, robotic, minimalist vocals and so on are part of what make Kraftwerk Kraftwerk, in my opinion--no other band can get this "sound." Sure, it sounds like a throwback in many respects--but somehow, I find that sound is just what I want to hear. If they did anything too radical in terms of altered harmonies, instrumentation, style etc. I'd bet a lot of us wouldn't like it. Then again--I'd love to be surprised by something truly different on the next album, if it ever comes out. For now, the Expo 2000 single--I'll take it! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Expo 2000" Limited Edition Date: 03 Dec 1999 23:32:31 +0000 Today the EXPO announced the release of a limited / numbered edition of the "Expo 2000" single for December 13th. This release consists of a CD with the same tracks as on the normal release (but with a different label), plus a CD / CD-ROM with the original EXPO jingle, a "Logomotion" (described as an "EXPO impulse", animated by the jingle frequencies...), plus a virtual, interactive flight over the EXPO area. This item is limited to 4000 copies. It will be exclusively available at Karstadt / Hertie stores in Germany for DM 100,00 each. (Source: EXPO press info PM991203a). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) New press articles Date: 04 Dec 1999 00:06:42 +0000 Some new Kraftwerk press articles: 1) Die Presse http://www.diepresse.at/presse.taf?read=detail&res=k&id=625224&tmp=34 6 43 (Ralf Huetter says: "The future takes place"...) 2) Focus http://focus.de/G/GV/GVA/gva.htm?snr=63681&streamsnr=9 (The Expo concert is still not confirmed.) 3) Hamburger Morgenpost http://www.mopo.de/seiten/19991204/hamburg-artikel9.html (Single review) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) "Expo 2000" Limited Edition Date: 03 Dec 1999 18:22:57 -0800 The second that becomes available I will get one if possible and fucking burn it for people at the cost of the CD. Limited, numbered or whatever - this is NOT going to turn into another 400 DM circus. -Bill Klaus Zaepke wrote: > > Today the EXPO announced the release of a limited / numbered edition > of the "Expo 2000" single for December 13th. > This release consists of a CD with the same tracks as on the normal > release (but with a different label), plus a CD / CD-ROM with the > original EXPO jingle, a "Logomotion" (described as an "EXPO impulse", > animated by the jingle frequencies...), plus a virtual, interactive > flight over the EXPO area. This item is limited to 4000 copies. It > will be exclusively available at Karstadt / Hertie stores in Germany > for DM 100,00 each. > (Source: EXPO press info PM991203a). > > Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Storey" Subject: (kw) Erasure/Kraftwerk Date: 04 Dec 1999 13:57:10 -0500 Hi all Has anyone on this list heard the remix of Blue Savannah (Der Deutsche Mix 1) by Erasure. It's very Kraftwerk sounding and is also an excellent song ! Cheers Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elekktro@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #360 Date: 03 Dec 1999 09:52:44 EST Why do you mention such cheap commercial Eurotrash like Bluemchen? How about Kurtis Mantronik's new single "PUSH YER HANDS UP" which contains some very Kraftwerkian vocoder and Mac OS text-to-speech portions? Greetings Elekktro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nicolau Centola" Subject: (kw) KW on brazilian on line media Date: 03 Dec 1999 17:13:01 PST Hi guys, Next Sunday (5.12.99) Kraftwerk will be the headline on Epoca OnLine site (www.epoca.com.br), with an article about the new release. Of course, nothing extremely new, but a nice article with pics and links. If you want to check, it will remain all day... peace Nicolau http://members.xoom.com/kraftworld PS - just 3 days... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ouija@mail.com Subject: Re: (kw) Erasure/Kraftwerk Date: 03 Dec 1999 23:38:44 -0500 "Chris Storey" wrote: >Has anyone on this list heard the remix of Blue Savannah (Der Deutsche Mix >1) by Erasure. It's very Kraftwerk sounding and is also an excellent song ! Indeed I have heard it, but that comes as no surprise. Erasure has always had their tonal roots firmly planted in the likes of KW. It's no doubt that Vince Clarke was very much influenced by Kraftwerk, as is evident in so much of the music he's written over the years, be it with Depeche Mode, Yaz, or Erasure. Erasure really started to begin sounding particularly Kraftwerkian around 1991 with the "Chorus" album which featured loads of digital sound effects, blips, bleeps and assorted sweeps. ouija@mail.com __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ouija@mail.com Subject: Re: SV: (kw) Erasure/Kraftwerk Date: 04 Dec 1999 10:42:55 -0500 "Glenn Folkvord (JMJ FKN)" wrote: >I think you mean *analogue* effects and bleeps. Erasure made a big >point of going back to the analogue gear with Chorus. Thanks for mentioning that actually. I didn't mean "digital" in the sense of what classification of technology source was being used to create the sounds, I simply meant that many of the tones sounded more computerized and electronic, or robotic if you will, to the ear. >I have it in front of me (playing it now) - not much Kraftwerkian here >I think, as the music is more organic and soft than ever before. I disagree. You'll find that earlier Erasure recordings like "Wonderland" and "The Circus" relied far more on instrumentation tambre itself than sound effects and computerization. On the other hand, a song like "Chorus" is chock full of sweeping sirens and panning computer oscillations, and has a much more "futuristic" feel than anything they'd done prior. An even better example than the "Chorus" LP to illustrate this point would be the EP which directly followed it, Erasure's tribute to ABBA titled "ABBA-esque". Woops, better get back to Kraftwerk now, wrong mailing list for this. hehe :-) ouija@mail.com __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: (kw) Erasure Date: 04 Dec 1999 09:06:01 -0700 How about the vocoderized "Sweet, Sweet Baby"? http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/expo2000.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) "Expo 2000" Limited Edition Date: 04 Dec 1999 12:17:53 EST In a message dated 12/3/99 2:34:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, k_z@gmx.de writes: << This item is limited to 4000 copies. It will be exclusively available at Karstadt / Hertie stores in Germany for DM 100,00 each. >> Is it possible to order this online? Anyone know how to get this? Klaus...do you know? Thanx, Alan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) "Expo 2000" Limited Edition Date: 04 Dec 1999 18:33:05 +0000 > << This item is limited to 4000 copies. It > will be exclusively available at Karstadt / Hertie stores in Germany > for DM 100,00 each. >> > Is it possible to order this online? Anyone know how to get this? Klaus...do > you know? Not for sure, but the Karstadt URL is http://www.my-world.de. It's possible that the CD will be available via this site, but it isn't listed there yet. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Mannheimer Morgen Date: 04 Dec 1999 18:33:05 +0000 Another brief Kraftwerk article (in German): http://www.mamo.de/redak/19991204/html/Article/r3c0000000_33799.html Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.ch Date: 04 Dec 1999 18:28:51 +0100 Hi ! Just found in the web: http://www.kraftwerk.ch "Tool for the next millennium" Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: m.schmidt@top.east.de Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 auch als CD (Album)? Date: 04 Dec 1999 13:32:00 +0100 Erstellt am: 04.12.99 - ist aber nicht unbedingt der Absendetag.=B7 Hallo Kraftwerk-Fans! Karstadt hat im Computer auch die Angabe von einer Expo 2000 CD (nicht di= e =20 Maxie). Diese CD ist nur zu bestellen - der Preis ist 100 DM die =20 Bestellnumer ist die 161199 und die EAN Nummer ist die 2202940023400. Diesmal wird auch richtig Werbung gemacht. Die Plattenl=E4den in Halle si= nd =20 voll mit Postern f=FCr die Expo 2000 Maxie. -- Mit elektrischen Gr=FC=DFen,=B7 Marko ----------------------------------------------------- Germankraft die deutsche Kraftwerk-Homepage:www.kraftwerk.mdis.de ----------------------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) "Expo 2000" Limited Edition Date: 04 Dec 1999 19:12:33 +0100 On Sat, 4 Dec 1999 12:17:53 EST, Ultravox5@aol.com wrote: ><< This item is limited to 4000 copies. It > will be exclusively available at Karstadt / Hertie stores in Germany > for DM 100,00 each. >> waw. very cheap ! DM 100 * 4000 = DM 400000 so they can have their money back from the price of the jingle ! anyway, if people are stupid enough to pay such a price for a CDSingle... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim L. Jones" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Review Date: 04 Dec 1999 13:30:50 -0500 William - LOL!! don't get me wrong, it would be nice if it were "innovative" so to speak, but its pleasant to me all the same.. I'd be surprised if R&F pulled something out of their bag of tricks :-) anyway Jim J. ps. dont do the kool-aid thing any more ;-) ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 12:12 AM > > Damned right. And if I ever get the opportunity to meet them, I think > that I may present them to the wonders of the "caffine mint". > > -Bill > > > "Jim L. Jones" wrote: > > > > De-Lurking (verking??) to say I've heard the "jingle" and I quite > > like it.. > > > > The question I want to ask though... Did/Does anyone here really > > expect at this point in time that Kraftwerk is going to do something > > ground breaking?? If you are, my guess is you're going to be > > very disapointed... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 Review Date: 04 Dec 1999 21:32:38 +0100 Now I've finally had a chance to listen to E2k with a real amplifier and read loudspeakers (I spent 2 working days listening to it in my laptop-PC...). Now when I hear the bass and everything I must say it's distinctive Kraftwerk - It has what it I expect. It has a steady drive and the pulse I like so much with KW. In all it builds the expectations for the future! /Joakim PS. By accident I discovered that the Swedish TV program "Expedition Robinsson" is playing a remixed version of Heimcomputer in the "data-section" of the program. This program is some kind of competition where they send some 10 people to an exotic island and have them reducing each other until only one is left. (By reducing I don't mean kill...) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jan Svenungsson Subject: (kw) expo2000 comment Date: 04 Dec 1999 18:24:49 -0500 Up until now the idea behind the (officially released) Kraftwerk work was= always about taking a nostalgic element (melody, subject matter, etc) and= mixing it with the desire to be at the vanguard of music technology. = As it seems, they have now given up on the second ambition. = Instead they mix three nostalgic parts together to make their song: the expo theme (typical 50's 60's optimism), some structures reminding of a 60's science fiction tv-series (as somebody remarked) + a collection of references to their own past. Altogether it creates not only an atmospher= e of nostalgia, but more... perhaps even real sadness. Which comes across a= s rather odd in the hyped-up mood of this moment! = I like it, and I think it is new, in its refusal to try to be new. Jan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Expo 2000" TV ad Date: 05 Dec 1999 01:59:08 +0000 MTV Germany is showing a brief (5 seconds or so) EMI TV ad for Kraftwerk's "Expo 2000" single. The mini-clip features the first few seconds from the single edit and displays the animated EXPO logo. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Michael Rother Tourdates Date: 05 Dec 1999 01:59:08 +0000 Michael Rother / Dieter Moebius tourdates, quoted from the Michael Rother WWW pages: 13.12. Tokyo, ON AIR WEST 14.12. Tokyo, STAR PINE=B4S CAFE 16.12. Osaka, CLUB QUATTRO 17.12. Kyoto, TAKU TAKU 25.01. Frankfurt - OstKlub 26.01. M=FCnster - Gleis 22 28.01. uk-london tbc 30.01. Bielefeld-Falkendom tbc 31.01. Braunschweig - Jolly Joker tbc 02.02. Hamburg - Logo 04.02. DK-Copenhagen - Club 05.02. Rostock - MS Stubnitz 07.02. Berlin - Knaack 08.02. Leipzig - Moritzbastei 11.02. Cottbus - Gladhouse 13.02. CR-Praha - tba # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gokon@webtv.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?AARON_=C6NIGMA?=) Subject: (kw) KRAFTWERKS Date: 04 Dec 1999 20:30:28 -0500 (EST) I would like to learn more about Kraftwerk. My Uncle introduced me to this band from Yamo Time Pie and Electric Cafe. I like Kraftwerk's music. Is this the right list to post to for Kraftwerk info? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angelo" Subject: Re: (kw) Erasure/Kraftwerk Date: 05 Dec 1999 00:02:09 -0200 Is insteresting this music Blue Savannah from Erasure. I like it! Interesting also is the Deutsche mix. The sample in Blue Savannah is a mix from the music Home Computer from Kraftwerk. ============================================ //////////ANGELO///////////////////// angelo@urbi.com.br Miguel Angelo C. Praça////// http://www.urbi.com.br/users/angelo \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ICQ: 11606126 /////////////////////// ============================================ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Fw: (kw) KRAFTWERKS Date: 05 Dec 1999 08:26:35 -0500 > I would like to learn more about Kraftwerk. My Uncle introduced me to >this band from Yamo Time Pie and Electric Cafe. I like Kraftwerk's >music. Is this the right list to post to for Kraftwerk info? Any question you may have, go ahead and ask it, someone will have the answer. I have learned more on this list than I ever thought there was to know. Are Time Pie and EC the only Kraftwerk-related things you have? They put out a number of albums, many of them are out of print, though. But ask away. If it involves Kraftwerk in any way, shape or form, however slight, it has probably been discussed here before. Huggy Bear # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: (kw) Das Modell Date: 05 Dec 1999 08:39:17 -0500 I was wondering if anyone has a literal English translation for Das Modell. I have only a slight knowledge of German - but I believe that the actual meaning of the song is somewhat different between The Model and Das Modell (korrekt!), but probably due to differences in syntax between the languages, a literal translation wouldn't really fit, so the words were changed so it would. I would love to know what it means in German, whether it fits the song in English or not. Also, a question concerning Spiegelsaal - The song sounds like the word is "Der Kunstler...", but the lyric sheet says "Der Künstler..." - which is correct, or are they both right, and that's one of the little tricks of the German language I still haven't quite learned yet? In fact, that whole line seems to be different (shorter) than the English version. Huggy Bear Sogar die größten Stars Lieben ihr Lieben im Spiegelglas. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Wolfgang Fluer lecture in Duesseldorf Date: 05 Dec 1999 14:40:48 +0000 I was asked to forward the following message to the list. I remember that a similar (or identical) message already appeared on the list a few weeks ago, but I guess that a "reminder" doesn't hurt, so here it is: ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- koenntest du bitte diesen hinweis in die kraftwerk-mailinglist stellen? "ich war ein roboter"-ueber diese epoche seines lebens und darueber hinaus erzaehlt wolfgang fluer und zeigt interessante videos am 07-12-1999 um 20h im ZAKK (duesseldorf, ZAKK, fichtenstra=DFe 40, fon. 0211-937 00 10, DM 10,-) aus dem neuesten sachbuch "einstweilige verfuegung" (auftragsarbeit von ralf und florian) gibt wolfgang fluer pikantes und amuesantes bekannt. "i was a robot"-wolfgang fluer tells about this epoche of his life and further experiences of his artistic career and he shows interesting videos. date. tuesday, 07-12-99 , ZAKK, D=FCsseldorf, fichtenstra=DFe 40, fon. 0211-93700 10, DM 10,- he also reads out of the newest interim order (commissioned work of ralf and florian) delicate and amusing chapters. viele gruesse wolfgang # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Victor Subject: Re: (kw) KW on brazilian on line media Date: 05 Dec 1999 16:25:07 -0200 Congratulations for the article about the new release Very good. -- Victor - Brasil vh@urbi.com.br http://www.urbi.com.br/users/vh Nicolau Centola wrote: > Hi guys, > > Next Sunday (5.12.99) Kraftwerk will be the headline on Epoca OnLine site > (www.epoca.com.br), with an article about the new release. Of course, > nothing extremely new, but a nice article with pics and links. > > If you want to check, it will remain all day... > > peace > > Nicolau > http://members.xoom.com/kraftworld > > PS - just 3 days... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gokon@webtv.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?AARON_=C6NIGMA?=) Subject: (kw) Asian Kraftwerk Fans Date: 05 Dec 1999 18:41:19 -0500 (EST) Any Kraftwerk fans in East Asia subscribe 2 this list? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. D." Subject: Re: (kw) Asian Kraftwerk Fans Date: 05 Dec 1999 17:33:29 -0800 (PST) Sorry, I am from Canada, but I'm sending my message with my WebTV (like you did). How about that? ===== Roger. rd411@yahoo.com Regor@webtv.net __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Glenn Folkvord (JMJ FKN)" Subject: (kw) OT: New Emusic website Date: 06 Dec 1999 06:29:19 +0100 Hey all, May I have a few moments of your time. Today I have launched a new = website dedicated to electronic music. Simply called "Emusic", the site = covers all kinds of electronic music, from the most obscure to the big = names. Kraftwerk is of course included! In fact, for the future I will = expand the site with a special Kraftwerk page, as part of a section = dedicated to the biggest names in the e-music genre. The first edition of the site has editorial news (including Enigma, = Jarre, Circular, Tangerine Dream and more), a handful of reviews, links, = Profile of the Month and more. If you feel like contributing, especially = with reviews and news about Kraftwerk, feel free to contact me either = via email or from the site. Point your browser to www.itsahit.com/emusic=20 Thanks for your time, and all the best from Glenn Folkvord JMJ Fanclub Norway www.jmjfkn.com Emusic www.itsahit.com/emusic=20 JarreArt www.itsahit.com/jarreart = http://jarre_designers.listbot.com=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Johnn=20Andersson?= Subject: (kw) EXPO2000 Date: 06 Dec 1999 13:37:04 +0100 (CET) Anybody who has the new single in his/her hand yet? _____________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sälj eller lägg ett bud på Yahoo! Auktioner http://se.auctions.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward_Mordaunt@haygroup.com Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO2000 Date: 06 Dec 1999 13:30:51 +0000 Just tried HMV's main store in Oxford Street and they don't know what's happening with it.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) 6 December : Expo 2000 CDSingle Date: 06 Dec 1999 18:09:29 +0100 Hi, We are on December 6!!! a new CDSingle for Kraftwerk, don't forget this is the very first new recording since 13 years. hey... I'm glad to see just now that Bigbag.de has received & shipped my copy of the single. Only about 2 days to wait for it... EEEEEXXXXXXPPPPPPOOOO Zwei Tousand ! Thank you R & F. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk in austrian media Date: 06 Dec 1999 17:12:09 +0200 The austrian media-magazine "Libro Journal" features in it's actual edition 12/99 a small article (and a small picture from the Linz '97 concert) about Kraftwerk: (Sorry, the following is in german only) "Endlich ist es soweit, die deutsche Elektronikmusik-Pioniere Kraftwerk praesentieren inre neue single - wohlgemerkt ihre erste und zugleich auch letzte in diesem Jahrzehnt. Expo 2000 wurde, wie berichtet, urspruenglich nur fuer die Expo in Hannover komponiert und produziert und soll angeblich jetzt auch nur in Deutschland veroeffentlicht werden." Greets from austria, Georgie -- * "Synthetic electronic sounds, industrial rhythms all around..." * * Heute Abend aus Deutschland: Die Mensch-Maschine - KRAFTWERK * * Georg Jajus (Vienna, Austria) phone + SMS: +436765621850 * * ICQ: 53829477 http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "nsw" Subject: (kw) Bell Labs TTS Date: 06 Dec 1999 13:30:58 -0500 Hello I am interested in using the Bell Labs Text-to-speech engine in various musical projects, but I don't want to hook up to the Internet in order use it. Has anyone out there developed software using their SDK that they sell? I am unable to afford it. --Nate ps: I wonder if Kraftwerk used the online one, or if they developed their own software for EXPO2000 using the Bell Labs TTS engine. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) The "Expo 2000" song Date: 06 Dec 1999 17:29:31 +0200 I just listened to the CD now a few times in the last hours - and well, it's really hard to describe if I like the single or not. From the point of a Kraftwerk-Fan I would say "Yeah, I like it", but reviewing it objective and comparing it with some actual (electronic) productions from other artists, IMO it's really not a sensational work which Kraftwerk did here. Well, the "Kling Klang Mix 2002" is really great and sounds very funky - WOW ;-)! But the rest? I don't think that this is the right way to try a "comeback". E.g. listen to the "Radio Mix" - it sounds nearly the same as Kraftwerk have sounded with the "Electric cafe" album - but this was 1986 and things have changed since then. Nearly the same beats, nearly the same electronic voices. No progress since 13 Years? I'm a bit disappointed. Why didn't they release the "Tribal" or the "Tango" song? However, the song seems to sell well: I bought the CD in the afternoon and only one copy was left (20 have been ordered for today, monday). Greets from austria, Georgie -- * "Synthetic electronic sounds, industrial rhythms all around..." * * Heute Abend aus Deutschland: Die Mensch-Maschine - KRAFTWERK * * Georg Jajus (Vienna, Austria) phone + SMS: +436765621850 * * ICQ: 53829477 http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Glenn Folkvord (JMJ FKN)" Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 review wanted Date: 06 Dec 1999 20:48:11 +0100 Hello, If anyone here is going to write a complete review of the new single, = please get in touch with me, or I'll get in touch with you if you post = it here on the list. Glenn JMJ Fanclub Norway www.jmjfkn.com Emusic www.itsahit.com/emusic=20 JarreArt www.itsahit.com/jarreart = http://jarre_designers.listbot.com=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.ch Date: 06 Dec 1999 12:36:30 -0800 You are such a bitch. :P Very, very good joke... especially since I cannot read German. It actually took me three "klicks" to figure it out and believe it. -Bill Wess wrote: > > Hi ! > > Just found in the web: > > http://www.kraftwerk.ch "Tool for the next millennium" > > Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) "Expo 2000" Limited Edition Date: 06 Dec 1999 13:22:56 -0800 Since I have received a few inquiries relating to my offer: My intention is to let the list know the instant that I get the new single. I have a burner, the time and (hopefully) the sanity. When it comes into my possession I'll be sure to leave clear instructions. I don't want to make anything associated with a profit - I'm a Kraftwerk fan too and certainly don't believe that they are out to snub fans with a ridiculous price on a hardly available item. The main reason that I'm willing to do this is so that we don't have a repeat of the astronomically overpriced Expo jingle fiasco. Keep your eyes posted - when it comes out, I'll order and burn as quickly as I can so that everyone gets a chance to discuss and appreciate the werk. Also, if anyone has any problems relating to my activities, please address me privately. -Bill Freekraftwerk2000 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Bell Labs TTS Date: 06 Dec 1999 15:58:35 -0800 Me too!! That would certainly be remarkable to have at my disposal whenever... I'll even post my creation. Ok werkers, I have an idea: if anyone out there uses a TTS in their own werkings, lets get a webpage together for fun! I'll host if you post. I think it would be fun to get enough together to make our own project CD. What I'll need from you, the artist: 1. your logo in 128x64 jpg format 2. your artistic name 3. webpage/email link 4. a one paragraph blurb about yourself and one about the piece. 5. the file in mp3 format - if you have problems doing this, lemmie know. I will help ;) Any brainstorm ideas for page design are certainly appriciated! Does this sound like a cool idea? Respond! -Bill nsw wrote: > > Hello > > I am interested in using the Bell Labs Text-to-speech engine in various > musical projects, but I don't want to hook up to the Internet in order use > it. Has anyone out there developed software using their SDK that they sell? > I am unable to afford it. > > --Nate > > ps: I wonder if Kraftwerk used the online one, or if they developed their > own software for EXPO2000 using the Bell Labs TTS engine. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Priscila Morsoletto Subject: Re: (kw) The "Expo 2000" song Date: 07 Dec 1999 01:14:27 -0200 On 6 Dec 99 at 17:29, Georg Jajus wrote: >From the point of a Kraftwerk-Fan I would say "Yeah, I like it", but >reviewing it objective and comparing it with some actual (electronic) >productions from other artists, IMO it's really not a sensational work >which Kraftwerk did here. Ah, I'd like to put my personal opnion of it here. I did listen only "Radio Mix" till now and I find it poor - for Kraftwerk stuff. Really different of their other musics. But I'm NOT here to say bad things about them - as I'm a die hard fan. Then we can't forget the fact it's the first (and I hope last!) musical work of them which wasn't made by a subject they like - it's JUST a commercial thing. >I don't think that this is the right way to try a "comeback". I don't even think it's their "comeback" - maybe they'll release an album soon. Well, I did mean in some YEARS perharps. >However, the song seems to sell well: I bought the CD in the afternoon >and only one copy was left (20 have been ordered for today, monday). Of course, after 13 years of wating... Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.de Date: 06 Dec 1999 14:13:23 -0500 when did http://www.kraftwerk.de/ go up? never seen anyone link to it or something. suddenly, it's just there. werd. although, it's really cool. found it when looking for domains that has been registred by the smae guy that registred www.kraftwerk.com/net/org karl\ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.de Date: 06 Dec 1999 21:10:09 -0700 Thanks Karl! Web site release date: 12.06.99! "Website activity, in the air for you and me" Check out Pocket Calculator, Numbers, Man Machine , and my favorite, Autobahn. http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/expo2000.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nowhere000@aol.com Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.de Date: 07 Dec 1999 01:17:50 EST It's a beautiful thing everyone get the plugins and have a look and listen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Washington" Subject: (kw) expo 2000 cd availability Date: 07 Dec 1999 01:43:37 -0600 I live in Kentucky (USA) and would like to order a copy of the new single. Does anyone have a suggestion as to what would be the best place (or any place) to order from. Michael L. Washington Owensboro, Kentucky USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) www.kraftwerk.de Date: 07 Dec 1999 08:49:51 +0100 Great fun! This explains the lack of activity on www.kraftwerk.com ! If nothing, this proves there will actually be a new record released in the (near) future. TdF, E2k and now a new web-site - everything is about testing the market and branding. /Joakim PS. Don't only listen and look at the new web-site - interact with it (move the mouse around) and look what happends. I really like The Man Machine - it's the new version - and The Robots. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nowhere000@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.de Date: 07 Dec 1999 03:07:50 EST In a message dated 12/7/99 2:55:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, joakim.svensson@capgemini.se writes: << PS. Don't only listen and look at the new web-site - interact with it (move the mouse around) and look what happends. >> oh yeah that too!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: RE: (kw) www.kraftwerk.de Date: 07 Dec 1999 10:03:06 +0100 This is great, what a lovely site!!!!!! And they stole the autobahn-idea from ME!!! :-) Look at my old Autobahn site: http://members=2Etripod=2Ecom/~KlingKlang/autobahn=2Ehtml I LOVE THE NEW GRAPHICS! Thank you for finding it karl! /Johan Kalle skrev: when did http://www=2Ekraftwerk=2Ede/ go up? never seen anyone link to it or something=2E suddenly, it's just there=2E werd=2E although, it's really cool=2E found it when looking for domains that has been registred by the smae guy that registred www=2Ekraftwerk=2Ecom/net/org karl\ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Robots Date: 07 Dec 1999 15:42:19 +0100 Robots at http://www.businessweek.com/1999/99_50/robots.htm DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) expo2000 Date: 07 Dec 1999 15:42:12 +0000 hello Kraftwerk fanatics has anyone in Germany got a copy of 'Expo 2000' yet? Jon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Rundqvist Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.de Date: 07 Dec 1999 12:06:35 +0100 (MET) JAAAAAAAAA Suddenly stuff happens. On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, karl wettin wrote: > when did http://www.kraftwerk.de/ go up? > never seen anyone link to it or something. > > suddenly, it's just there. > > werd. although, it's really cool. > > found it when looking for domains that has > been registred by the smae guy that registred > www.kraftwerk.com/net/org By the way, I'm the owner of kraftwerk.org ;) ;) ;) /Roboten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DepecheCBI@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) expo2000 Date: 07 Dec 1999 12:53:49 EST > hello Kraftwerk fanatics =20 > has anyone in Germany got a copy of 'Expo 2000' yet? Yes, me for example. I bought it yesterday (of course) and heard it several=20 times. My favourite tracks are the 3rd (kk mix 2002 ??? is it a misprint?)=20 and the fourth (kk mix 2001 ?!). It sounds cool for me ... but it=B4s definitly not their masterpiece. MfG Carsten Bolte. Kiel. PS: www.kraftwerk.de is great! (especially pocket calculator). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Bieler Subject: (kw) New Material Date: 07 Dec 1999 19:55:33 +0100 (CET) If they'd give up trying to be technologically ahead of everything, and just returned to making beautyful music, maybe a new album every other year, that would be fine with me! What does everybody else think? Thomas Bieler # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) New Material Date: 07 Dec 1999 11:21:19 -0800 >If they'd give up trying to be technologically ahead of everything, and >just returned to making beautyful music, maybe a new album every other >year, that would be fine with me! > >What does everybody else think? I couldn't agree more! I've always felt that Kraftwerk used technology to create beautiful music, rather than use music as an excuse to showcase technology. Bands who put technology first just end up with very dated-sounding material. Albums like "The Man-Machine" and "Trans-Europe Express" will never sound dated, because musical content is the foremost element. They created such unique sounds for those albums, much more beautiful than the digital patches from "Electric Cafe" (although that's not a bad album!). It would be nice if Kraftwerk stopped worrying about being cutting-edge and just released new music. I wonder if it's important to them for their music to adhere to dance music standards? ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charlie Crash" Subject: (kw) MP3's anywhere? Date: 07 Dec 1999 21:28:23 +0100 So, Where are the four superhigh quality kw mp3's from the new single then for us who cant get it elsewhere? Charlie Crash # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.de Date: 07 Dec 1999 22:46:12 +0200 ...just checkt it out! What I don't understand: www.kraftwerk.com is still the old and the same - but mentioned on the "Expo 2000" CD? Strange, stranger, Kraftwerk Greets from austria, Georgie -- * "Synthetic electronic sounds, industrial rhythms all around..." * * Heute Abend aus Deutschland: Die Mensch-Maschine - KRAFTWERK * * Georg Jajus (Vienna, Austria) phone + SMS: +436765621850 * * ICQ: 53829477 http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charlie Crash" Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.de Date: 07 Dec 1999 22:54:04 +0100 Dont really believe klinklang really made the .de site, though its very good! Still the soundquality is not kw-style, more a lowbitstyle that gives more crisp to the edge. Why confuse people with more sites than a .com! Its not kw! Crash > > ...just checkt it out! > > What I don't understand: www.kraftwerk.com is still the old and the > same - but mentioned on the "Expo 2000" CD? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "MuSiK" Subject: RE: (kw) www.kraftwerk.de Date: 07 Dec 1999 23:14:45 +0100 Yeah!!! Realy cool site !! This is another proof... KW moves !! I think is an oficial site, is KW copright... as you can see.:-) MuSiK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oleg Rekutin Subject: Re[2]: (kw) www.kraftwerk.de Date: 07 Dec 1999 17:06:01 -0500 Tuesday, December 07, 1999, 4:54:04 PM, Charlie wrote: CC> Dont really believe klinklang really made the .de site, though its very CC> good! Still the soundquality is not kw-style, more a lowbitstyle that gives CC> more crisp to the edge. Yeah, but that soundquality is expected, otherwise if they had near-CD quality on the site, you'd spend an eternity downloading the files/movies. Moreover they are targeting for an international audience, so if they had sound files too large, some people in various countries who pay per minute of Internet access would not be particularly happy. - Oleg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Victor Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.de Date: 07 Dec 1999 20:59:42 -0200 Yes..very good !! -- Victor vh@urbi.com.br http://www.urbi.com.br/users/vh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jasmine Christian Subject: Re: (kw) expo2000 Date: 07 Dec 1999 15:11:13 -0800 (PST) I love the Pocket Calculator too. Did you notice that it's actually a fully functioning calculator? I don't know of any other Flash 3.0 site that's doing that. - Jaz --- DepecheCBI@aol.com wrote: > > > hello Kraftwerk fanatics > > > > PS: www.kraftwerk.de is great! (especially pocket > calculator). > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Rundqvist Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.de Date: 08 Dec 1999 00:05:11 +0100 (MET) The Taschenrechner doesn't seem so accurate, though. 0.3 + 0.6 = 0.8999999 Maybe it's a millennium bug ;P /Roboten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: (kw) Keeping up with Kraftwerk Date: 07 Dec 1999 19:41:08 -0700 If you have KW pages..don't forget to change your www.kraftwerk.com link to www.kraftwerk.de or add new link. http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/expo2000a.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Priscila Morsoletto Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.de server info Date: 08 Dec 1999 00:21:40 -0200 Here is www.kraftwerk.de server information: domain: kraftwerk.de descr: Schmitz Reichel & Partner descr: Klosterstrasse 34 descr: D - 40211 Duesseldorf admin-c: KPS19-RIPE tech-c: HT127-RIPE zone-c: HT127-RIPE nserver: dns.technet.net nserver: meserva.technet.net mnt-by: DE-DOM changed: hostmaster@nic.de 19980121 changed: hostmaster@nic.de 19990416 source: RIPE person: Klaus Peter Schmitz address: Schmitz Reichel & Partner address: Klosterstrasse 34 address: D - 40211 Duesseldorf phone: +49 211 17294 0 nic-hdl: KPS19-RIPE mnt-by: TECHNET-MNT changed: mike@technet.net 19990414 source: RIPE person: Hostmaster TechNet address: Tech Net GmbH address: Herderstrasse 23 address: D-40822 Mettmann phone: +49 211 9302780 fax-no: +49 211 9302794 e-mail: hostmaster@technet.net nic-hdl: HT127-RIPE notify: hostmaster@technet.net mnt-by: TECHNET-MNT changed: mike@technet.net 19991012 source: RIPE Is it a Kraftwerk related thing? My browser doesn't work, I'm unable to see the page itself. I'll try to resolve this problem now. Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Books Date: 08 Dec 1999 10:49:32 +0100 >After thinking about both Kraftwerk books, I think its time a third one >showed up and perhaps did a better job. There are already three books about Kraftwerk: the one by Pascal Bussy, the one by Tim Barr, and the one by Wolfgang Fluer. > I nominate Klaus Zaepke to write >one, he seems like an expert and there's no doubt that he'd get a >publisher. >How about it Klaus? I prompted him with this same idea some months ago. And again I add to Nate. > THE NEXT MILLENIUM DOESN'T START WITH THE YEAR 2000, BUT WITH THE >2001!!!!! Since it has had too many changes and confusions of and in the calendar probably we have been already for years in century 21. Kevin Busby wrote: >This is the best solution and >should be immediately comprehensible to anyone who has been taught to draw >a line graph. > -|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--| > -4 -3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3 4 > <- BC AD-> The line you mention is actually thus: -|--|--|--|--|--|--|--| -4 -3 -2 -1 1 2 3 4 <- BC AD-> BTW, If there are 70's, 80's and 90's, how will we call this new decade?, the 00's? :-) In India the Diwaly says we are in year 2054. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Erasure/Kraftwerk Date: 08 Dec 1999 10:49:10 +0100 Angelo wrote: >Is insteresting this music Blue Savannah from Erasure. I like it! >Interesting also is the Deutsche mix. The sample in Blue Savannah is a mix >from the music Home Computer from Kraftwerk. "Der Deutscher Mix" of the song "Blue Savannah" also contains sounds from "Tour de France" and "Trans-Europe Express". DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "machina" Subject: (kw) another KW domain Date: 08 Dec 1999 10:59:56 +0000 i mentioned it sometime ago, but i think now it's the time to do it again. there's another KW url registered by EMI UK: http://www.kraftwerk.co.uk Domain Name: KRAFTWERK.CO.UK Registered For: EMI International Domain Registered By: EMI Registered on 14-Jan-1998. Record last updated on 16-Feb-1999 by louise.balmforth@emimusic.com. Domain servers listed in order: RAFT.VMG.CO.UK 195.152.83.83 SEC1.DNS.UK.PSI.NET 154.32.105.34 i think it's really strange, that they didn't mention the .de domain on the "Expo 2000" cover !!! although it's seems to be a real, official site, made by an agency, rather than Andreas Kuckartz :-) Claudio Claudio G. Chiriatti e-mail:chir3301@uni-trier.de ex machina http://www.iee.tu-clausthal.de/~info/pc00/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk & Netscape Date: 08 Dec 1999 15:27:02 +0200 Mmh, Kraftwerk recommand explicit and only Netscape on their new page www.kraftwerk.de to watch it. So they critical against Microsoft ;-)? Greets from austria, Georgie -- * "Synthetic electronic sounds, industrial rhythms all around..." * * Heute Abend aus Deutschland: Die Mensch-Maschine - KRAFTWERK * * Georg Jajus (Vienna, Austria) phone + SMS: +436765621850 * * ICQ: 53829477 http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Finbom" Subject: (kw) Kraftware? Date: 08 Dec 1999 08:54:13 +0100 Hello! I was for a special software for my pc with Windows 98 and thought that my Kraftwerk friends surely could help me. I'm looking for a Vocooder software. I want to record my voice and then transform it to robotic style voice. And it would be a big plus if it worked in realtime. I have searched but not found any good software yet. Anyone who knows? Regards, Finbom / Sweden # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Finbom" Subject: (kw) expo in sweden? Date: 08 Dec 1999 12:11:33 +0100 Does anybody know when the new record will arrive to Sweden? I Haven't found it yet. /Finbom # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "matthew large" Subject: (kw) WOOHOO Date: 08 Dec 1999 10:04:30 GMT Yesterday I managed to pick up the last copy of the single in my local pro-markt!!! It's totally wicked :) lush vocoders, lovely soft production, smart 2001 mix, love it! yesterday I sat down to read the digest discovered the limited edition thing. I'm now waiting a call back from herties in frankfurt about the possibility of getting this item. coooool. they had better have.. my mate paul is listening to it at the moment (in work on a pc speaker) and he says it sound like technotronic except you can't dance to it! haha, he's a fool and he listens to punk. nothing wrong with that mind you... anyway, I'll keep you updated with progress. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim L. Jones" Subject: Re: (kw) New Material Date: 07 Dec 1999 21:39:48 -0500 Oh boy, here we go -- I personally don't think, or at least the impression I get is that R&F aren't doing the "technologically advanced" thing anymore, because quite frankly the gear exists where anyone can do a close approximation of the "Kraftwerk" sound. I really believe, or finally get after all this time that they are basically minimalists, and what you hear is what they do.. I personally don't think there's anything wrong with that.. "sometimes a cake is just a cake...." In Other Words -- its been done already... please don't pigeon-hole them into that "oh they just have to do something groundbreaking else its not worth listening to" kind of thing.. I think that does them a disservice as musicians and composers.. ahhh -- there! i've gone and done it -- running off at the mouth and I wasn't going to go there either.. Jim J. p.s. -- as much as Electric Cafe has been slagged.. I still like it too!! ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 2:21 PM > > >If they'd give up trying to be technologically ahead of everything, and > >just returned to making beautyful music, maybe a new album every other > >year, that would be fine with me! > > > >What does everybody else think? > > I couldn't agree more! I've always felt that Kraftwerk used technology > to create beautiful music, rather than use music as an excuse to showcase > technology. Bands who put technology first just end up with very > dated-sounding material. Albums like "The Man-Machine" and "Trans-Europe > Express" will never sound dated, because musical content is the foremost > element. They created such unique sounds for those albums, much more > beautiful than the digital patches from "Electric Cafe" (although that's > not a bad album!). > > It would be nice if Kraftwerk stopped worrying about being cutting-edge > and just released new music. I wonder if it's important to them for their > music to adhere to dance music standards? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mm@UDel.Edu (Mike Markowski) Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk & Netscape Date: 08 Dec 1999 12:58:39 -0500 On Dec 8, 1999, Georg Jajus wrote: > Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk & Netscape > > Mmh, Kraftwerk recommand explicit and only Netscape on their new page > www.kraftwerk.de to watch it. > > So they critical against Microsoft ;-)? I was always pretty sure Kraftwerk had good taste - but now there's no question about it. :-) Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) New Press articles Date: 08 Dec 1999 21:13:56 +0100 (MET) Some new Kraftwerk press articles: 1) Frankfurter Neue Presse 08.12.1999 Brief Ralf Huetter interview http://www.rhein-main.net/Cgi-bin/framekeeper.pl?SetName= nachrichten&FileName=http%3A//www.rhein-main.net/FNP-Online/ Zeitung/auspuff-0.html 2) Koelner Stadt-Anzeiger 06.12.1999 "Expo 2000" single review http://www.ksta.de/kultur/16173.html 3) Der Spiegel "Expo 2000" single review http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/musik/nf/0,1518,55540,00.html 4) Die Welt 08.12.1999 "Expo 2000" single review http://www.welt.de/daten/1999/12/08/1208ku141486.htx 5) Karstadt Music News 12/99 Preview of the "Expo 2000" limited edition 6) Prinz 12/99 (Duesseldorf edition) Article about Wolfgang Fluer 7) WOM-Journal 12/99 Fluer book review Klaus Zaepke -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) "Expo 2000" limited edition Date: 08 Dec 1999 21:15:47 +0100 (MET) The EXPO 2000 WWW pages were updated with some info about the forthcoming limited edition of the "Expo 2000" single: http://www.expo2000.de/deutsch/cafe/kraftwerk.html (German version) http://www.expo2000.de/deutsch/cafe/kraftwerk_e.html (English version) Klaus Zaepke -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Finarvas Subject: Re: (kw) expo in sweden? Date: 08 Dec 1999 21:45:29 +0100 I asked in one of the local stores here in Varberg (west coast of Sweden) and they said they will probably get it tomorrow or in a few days at least. /Finarvas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Familie de Haan Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.de Date: 08 Dec 1999 22:50:17 +0100 on 08-12-1999 00:05, Martin Rundqvist at Martin.Rundqvist@abc.se wrote: > > The Taschenrechner doesn't seem so accurate, though. 0.3 + 0.6 = 0.8999999 > Maybe it's a millennium bug ;P > Maybe a Pentium Processor? -- Remember when you computer gives an error, it's because: the stack can dip into the heap for just a few cycles and not be caught by the stack sniffer - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Date: 08 Dec 1999 14:04:34 -0800 Hey, I noticed something interesting... On www.kraftwerk.de, I went to the Expo 2000 page, and manipulated the image so that I could see the backs of Kraftwerk's heads. It looks like there are faces on the back of their heads! It's subtle, but there. It almost looks like maybe their heads were modeled with some sort of translucent color, and the "face" on the back of the head is really just the inverted face showing through from the front. But, who knows! This new site is so fun! I like the "Robots" and "Numbers" pages a lot, where you can activate the sound effects. I wish they'd do a "Metal On Metal" version of that for the TEE page! I bet we'd all spend way more time than we should doing our own Metal-On-Metal mixes. :> ---Jason Polland Jason Polland International Sports Sciences Association Multimedia and Web Design http://www.issaonline.com 1-800-892-ISSA (805) 884-8111 / Fax (805) 884-8119 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: (kw) Expo2000 Fractal Date: 08 Dec 1999 19:45:47 -0700 The animated Expo2000 logo fractal does move in sequence to the spoken words "Expo Two Thousand". "Stare into the TV screen" Any word on the Francois Kevorkian/William Orbit Expo2000 remix? http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/expo2000a.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: (kw) Koncert! Date: 08 Dec 1999 20:01:08 -0700 Babel translation from Frankfurtner Neu Presse...Thanks Klaus! Approximately 13 years had to wait the fans the German tape " power station " for a new single. Now a piece with the simple designation appeared " Expo 2000 ". Developed the number from a job work for the world exhibition in Hanover, represented in four versions on the disk. Originally it concerned only a theme song for the world exhibition " Expo "; the piece should take even times four seconds. And but the " Kraftwerk" musicians are to have taken allegedly the sumptuous amount of approximately 400,000 Marks. But over it the musicians do not talk. Also over a " Kraftwerk" concert, which is to take place in the summer during " the Expo ", the tape is silent itself out. One negotiates still, it is said. The silence has method. Finally the tape " power station " has itself, those in the coming year their 30. Birthday celebrates, always particularly over the music defined and with pieces like " radioactivity ", " motorway " or " the Model " in the history of the electronic music always new sections impacted. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "hybner hubertus" Subject: (kw) Listen to expo 2002 mix if you like.... Date: 08 Dec 1999 19:24:11 CET I have uploaded the expo 2000 kling klang mix 2002 at the following location: www.angelfire.com/music/expo/ If you live in scandinavia, the record is avalible through www.hotstuff.se I recived it from there today Hybner ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk & Netscape Date: 08 Dec 1999 23:07:04 +0200 On 08-Dec-99 A.D., Mike Markowski carved the following runes about "Re: (kw) Kraftwerk & Netscape": > On Dec 8, 1999, Georg Jajus wrote: >> So they critical against Microsoft ;-)? > > I was always pretty sure Kraftwerk had good taste - but now there's > no question about it. :-) :-D But kraftwerk.com at least works on my computer/OS/browsers (no proprietary, closed-source, copyrighted plugins *required* - like any web site *should* be)... Anyway I loaded kraftwerk.de on a Wintendo with M$IE and yes it was very pretty, but like most sites that require a certain client configuration there was hardly any useful content. Well, it's hard to find the latter on kraftwerk.com as well... ;) Still waiting for the Expo 2000 single to appear anywhere in my home town, -- E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: (kw) expo2000 mp3:s Date: 08 Dec 1999 11:56:20 -0500 they will stay on my site for about 5 hours. so you better hurry :) http://www.wettin.com/mp3/expo2000/ karl\ http://www.mp3.com/wettin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Glenn Folkvord (JMJ FKN)" Subject: SV: (kw) Koncert! Date: 09 Dec 1999 07:36:13 +0100 Ha ha, those Babel translations always sound like Yoda from Star Wars!! = :-) all the best, Glenn JMJ Fanclub Norway www.jmjfkn.com Emusic www.itsahit.com/emusic=20 JarreArt www.itsahit.com/jarreart = http://jarre_designers.listbot.com=20 >Babel translation from Frankfurtner Neu Presse...Thanks Klaus! > >Approximately 13 years had to wait the fans the German tape " power = station >" for a new single. Now a piece with the simple designation appeared " = Expo >2000 ". Developed the number from a job work for the world exhibition = in >Hanover, represented in four versions on the disk. Originally it = concerned >only a theme song for the world exhibition " Expo "; the piece should = take >even times four seconds. And but the " Kraftwerk" musicians are to have >taken allegedly the sumptuous amount of approximately 400,000 Marks. = But >over it the musicians do not talk. >Also over a " Kraftwerk" concert, which is to take place in the summer >during " the Expo ", the tape is silent itself out. One negotiates = still, it >is said. The silence has method. Finally the tape " power station " has >itself, those in the coming year their 30. Birthday celebrates, always >particularly over the music defined and with pieces like " = radioactivity ", >" motorway " or " the Model " in the history of the electronic music = always >new sections impacted. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tadream" Subject: (kw) electro world Date: 09 Dec 1999 12:14:09 +0100 while surfing the web i came across the following item : Electroids - Electro World (catalog number: WARP35CD2) and this comment right next to it : "If KW was to make music 30 years from now, this is how it would sound" any info on that? tadream email: tadream@free.poltronic.net home page: http://www.adamszymanek.cjb.net icq: 35224126 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tomasz_KIRMUC@tdk-lu.com Subject: (kw) Expo2000 video Date: 09 Dec 1999 14:30:09 +0100 On Monday (Dec. 6th) on VIVA2 I saw the end of video clip to the EXPO2000. It is quite in Musique Non Stop style (pure computer graphics). I can't wait when get my copy of this single (all you Germans are lucky bastards! Once again I have to import it from Germany or England). I heard the opinion that new Kraftwerk "output" (3 new live tracks and Expo) is not very revolutionary. But - so what?! They already made the history and background for todays music and what I really need is some new songs from time to time, just to feel some excitement as I feel now. Klaus D. Mueller (Klaus Schulze's manager): "Good music it is not the same as eggs! It musn't be new." True, isn't it? TK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Komputer, Kraftwerk & Clarke Ware Date: 09 Dec 1999 14:52:38 +0100 New Komputer single: "Intercom". Forthcoming release: "Intercom" album. However I recieved today an e-mail from Mute, London: "There is no release date set yet for the next album or single. As soon as there is news, it will be added to our web site. Sorry not to be able to help at the moment." In the radio program Siglo 21 (Radio 3, RNE) the new single of Kraftwerk has been played Yesterday and today and the disc-jockey who runs it (Tomas Fernando Flores) has said that Die Mensch Maschine will publish their new album in the last week of February or in first of March. By the way, Kraftwerk apparently has used a (or two) Kawai 5000 to make the Expo 2000 single. Have you listen The Clarke & Ware Experiment "Pretentious"? It has several very Kraftwerkian things. Quoted from Mute Liberation Technologies web page (http://www.mutelibtech.com/): "Composed and recorded by Vince Clarke (Erasure) and Martyn Ware (Heaven 17), "Pretentious" is the first-ever album to realise the potential of 3D soundscapes. It combines over 70 minutes of cinematic music and the latest in surround sound technology to create a dramatic and memorable listening experience." DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) Expo2000 video Date: 09 Dec 1999 14:56:27 +0100 According to VIVA-TEXT the EXPO 2000-Video will be shown in "Berlin House", Dec. 10th, 10pm-11pm, Dec 11th, 11pm-12pm. Gubbolf Tomasz_KIRMUC@tdk-lu.com schrieb: > > On Monday (Dec. 6th) on VIVA2 I saw the end of video clip to the EXPO2000. It is > quite in Musique Non Stop style (pure computer graphics). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Evans Subject: Re: (kw) Komputer, Kraftwerk & Clarke Ware Date: 09 Dec 1999 09:22:05 -0500 (EST) Der Automat wrote: > > By the way, > Kraftwerk apparently has used a (or two) Kawai 5000 to make the Expo 2000 > single. > That's not a surprise: they had a wad of them (3? 4? it was hard to see) in the racks in the 1998 concert. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dirk jan müller" Subject: (kw) Flür reading his book in Düsseldorf Date: 09 Dec 1999 09:44:55 CET On Tuesday we went to D=FCsseldorf to hear Wolfgang Fl=FCr reading from h= is=20 book. He showed some Videos (KW-Videos with Yamo-Sound!) and answered some=20 questions. And much advertising he made for his Yamo-CD. And played 2 new= =20 Yamo Tracks. He said that he likes the new Expo2000 Single by KW! And he thinks, that=20 there will be more surprises from Ralf & Florian to expect in the future.= .. And... he said that 400.000 DM is a pretty normal payment for a short=20 jingle. He couldn=B4t understand the heavy discussion that was made aroun= d it. After that we walked around in D=FCsseldorf-City. Near the station, and o= nly=20 some 50m from KLING-KLANG, there was a shop=B4s window. As we passed the=20 window, we noticed that wasn=B4t a shop, it was a bar-room. And who was=20 sitting alone on the counter? It was Florian who was having a drink. So now we know, what a Kraftwerker is doing after a hard day at=20 Kling-Klang... Greetings Dirk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andréas Hagström" Subject: (kw) Ralf in comic Date: 09 Dec 1999 07:13:48 PST I found a comic where Ralf appears. I thought you would like to see it so= I=20 put it out on the net for a little while. http://www.foto.gu.se/student/andreas_h/serie/serie.html Its a swedish comic but I made a lousy translation for you. /Andr=E9as ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Help Date: 09 Dec 1999 15:09:09 +0100 Could anyone , please, help me? When I try to go to http://www.kraftwerk.de/flash/ it appears a message saying: "You do not have permission to access the requested file on this server." What can I do? TIA. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) expo2000 mp3:s Date: 09 Dec 1999 10:27:46 -0800 > they will stay on my site for about 5 hours. > so you better hurry :) > > http://www.wettin.com/mp3/expo2000/ > >karl\ Blast! I missed my chance! ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Ralf in comic Date: 09 Dec 1999 10:56:20 -0800 >I found a comic where Ralf appears. I thought you would like to see it so I >put it out on the net for a little while. >http://www.foto.gu.se/student/andreas_h/serie/serie.html >Its a swedish comic but I made a lousy translation for you. That comic was really surreal. I liked it! Hey, does anybody else know of Kraftwerk apperances in comics? ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: occam@POP-HANNOVER.de (occam) Subject: (kw) New User: Occam Date: 09 Dec 1999 22:07:00 +0200 Hi Kraftwerker My English is to worse to Talk in English about Karftwerk, but i hope to find some German Fans here... Und sollten den welche vorhanden sein, hier erst mal meine Daten. Name : Sebastian (Occam) Wohnort : Hannover Alter : 19 KW-Intresse : hab ca. 86 das erstemal Autobahn gehört und konnte schon damals das Lied gut verstehen. Seitdem hab ich immer die Ohren offen wenn es was neues über die jungs gibt, oder einem etwas Material in die Hände fällt. Dem drang Daten über KW zu sammeln bin ich nocht nicht ganz erlegen, und so besitze ich auch nur wenige Alben, aber gerade jetzt steigt mein Intresse und ich hoffe hier noch ein Paar gute Infos zu erhaschen. Sollte hier nun English Only sein so bitte ich um die Adresse der .de Kraftwerk Mailing-Liste.. -- _ _ _ _ (_) (_ (_ /-\ /^\/^\ Cosysop der Defiant BBS (05184 958806/7) : User der Quarks (05101 915255) Webmaster http://www.bbsliste.net : PGP Key per Request PGP-Fingerprint 9A AC BE 5A B3 DE 2B 0A 2D DE 45 23 7D FF 01 BD # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "nsw" Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 on vinyl Date: 09 Dec 1999 16:11:18 -0500 www.cdnow.de has the expo single on vinyl. Does anyone have this version? --Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E5ns=20Sj=F6strand?= Subject: (kw) Expo2000 Video Date: 09 Dec 1999 22:21:53 +0100 The video to "Expo 2000" is online @ http://www.emimusic.de/artists/kraftwerk - M=E5ns # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nat Heidler" Subject: (kw) Expo Video Date: 09 Dec 1999 15:41:12 -0600 "Man - Nature - Technology" This is a _great_ track! Thanks to everyone who's been posting info to the list! Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20(kw)=20Fl=FCr=20reading=20his=20book=20in=20?= Date: 09 Dec 1999 19:31:56 EST In a message dated 12/9/99 8:22:44 AM Pacific Standard Time,=20 dirkjm99@hotmail.com writes: << As we passed the=20 window, we noticed that wasn=B4t a shop, it was a bar-room. And who was=20 sitting alone on the counter? It was Florian who was having a drink. >> Why didn't you talk to him????? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: (kw) EXPO2000 Video Date: 09 Dec 1999 18:31:58 -0700 To German KW Mailing List Members: In viewing the Expo2000 video, please note the 3-D rendering of a stage and building....could this be the building where Kraftwerk will perform their concert? Did Kraftwerk insert the fractals into their concert screens using stock footage? http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/expo2000a.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charlie Crash" Subject: (kw) It's more fun! Date: 10 Dec 1999 02:54:35 +0100 If u havent heard this kw remix of "its more fun to compute" u'd better download it right away! ;-) Crash http://members.xoom.com/charliecrash/audio/011cd2.zip http://come.to/charliecrash # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Kraftwerk appearances in comics (was: Re: (kw) Ralf in comic) Date: 10 Dec 1999 00:41:47 +0000 > Hey, does anybody else know of Kraftwerk apperances in comics? Sergio Macedo: "Kraftwerk. The synthetic boys"; Rock + Folk 129 (10/1977), p. 106-109. Mad Peck: "Battle of the gnats!"; Creem 8/1978, p. 71 Serge Dutfoy, Michael Sadler, Dominique Farran: "Geschichte der Rockmusic in Comics (1986), p. 75 Ottifanten 22.08.1992 ("Autobahn" reference) Clin B. Morgan, Chuck Death: "Great Pop Things => The Kraftwerk Story". Part 1: "They tried to change the world by sending robots to do their gigs..."; New Musical Express 07.02.1998, p. 86. Part 2: "Kraftwerk is helped by Dave!"; New Musical Express 14.02.1998, p. 62 "El Bueno de Cuttlas"; El Pais de las Tentaciones 12.06.1998, p. 47. GEN 13 "Ordinary Horses" mini series # 1 ("Musique non stop" reference). There is also a Gotlib comic short story that features Kraftwerk, but I don't have the exact bibliographic data. Anyone else? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk on EMI Promo Sampler Date: 10 Dec 1999 00:41:47 +0000 EMI has issued a CD promo sampler with new releases, including Kraftwerk's "Expo 2000" (Radio Edit). The other tracks are: - BAP: Mayday (S. O. S. Mix) - Blue Nature presents Natalie: I won't let you down (T. Commander Mix) - Roxette: Salvation (Single Version) The catalogue number is CDP 000.244 (KW 48/49). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark Subject: RE: (kw) Kraftwerk & Netscape Date: 09 Dec 1999 22:12:14 -0000 I use both Microsoft IE5 and Nutscrape 4.7 At least IE5 allows fullscreen and comes close to the W3 proposals for the DOM And it supports XML and ActiveX Netscape is dead, long live Mosaic. -----Original Message----- Sent: 08 December 1999 21:07 On 08-Dec-99 A.D., Mike Markowski carved the following runes about "Re: (kw) Kraftwerk & Netscape": > On Dec 8, 1999, Georg Jajus wrote: >> So they critical against Microsoft ;-)? > > I was always pretty sure Kraftwerk had good taste - but now there's > no question about it. :-) :-D But kraftwerk.com at least works on my computer/OS/browsers (no proprietary, closed-source, copyrighted plugins *required* - like any web site *should* be)... Anyway I loaded kraftwerk.de on a Wintendo with M$IE and yes it was very pretty, but like most sites that require a certain client configuration there was hardly any useful content. Well, it's hard to find the latter on kraftwerk.com as well... ;) Still waiting for the Expo 2000 single to appear anywhere in my home town, -- E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andréas Hagström" Subject: (kw) kraftwerk.de Date: 09 Dec 1999 11:28:45 PST I found this little hidden animation. Its not linked to the rest of the=20 site. http://www.kraftwerk.de/images/machani-2.gif I wounder what machani stands for? And the meta content: "Antenne, electronic music, international music, Karlsruhe, Klingklang,=20 KRAFTWERK, Musik, official, offiziell, pop music, techno music, Tour de=20 France,Modern Concepts" /Andr=E9as ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) Expo2000 Video Date: 09 Dec 1999 23:00:30 +0200 On 09-Dec-99 A.D., M=E5ns Sj=F6strand carved the following runes about "(= kw) Expo2000 Video": > The video to "Expo 2000" is online @ > http://www.emimusic.de/artists/kraftwerk Once again, could somebody please convert that damn RealVideo file to something like QT (or even AVI)? And please do the TdF video while you're at it... ;) --=20 E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Rundqvist Subject: Re: (kw) Ralf in comic Date: 09 Dec 1999 20:25:58 +0100 (MET) The comics is from the guy that have done "The Schneider shower" I mentioned some months ago regarding Wolfgangs book with pictures from "Schneider showering" ;-) Those comics could still be ordered from John himself. /roboten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fxcordero@mail.cybermesa.com Subject: (kw) EXPO200 Video Date: 09 Dec 1999 22:09:52 GMT To German mailing list members: Is the 3-D rendering of the stage/building in the Expo2000 video, the actual stage/building in Hannover? Kraftwerk on stage are shown with the concert screens in the background. Do you think this was taped live....or are they using stock footage and adding the fractal images later? http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/expo2000a.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "nsw" Subject: (kw) comics Date: 09 Dec 1999 22:29:30 -0500 I saw on the Internet somewhere a page from a comic book (modern looking mainstream type of comic actually) that had the words boing, boom, and tschack as "sound effects" for a fight in a city. --Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk on EMI Promo Sampler Date: 09 Dec 1999 21:12:29 -0800 My sniper team will take care of Roxette, you may do what you will with the others. -Bill Klaus Zaepke wrote: > > EMI has issued a CD promo sampler with new releases, including > Kraftwerk's "Expo 2000" (Radio Edit). > The other tracks are: > - BAP: Mayday (S. O. S. Mix) > - Blue Nature presents Natalie: I won't let you down (T. Commander > Mix) > - Roxette: Salvation (Single Version) > > The catalogue number is CDP 000.244 (KW 48/49). > > Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: Kraftwerk appearances in comics (was: Re: (kw) Ralf in comic) Date: 09 Dec 1999 21:13:54 -0800 Man... This topic deserves a website! Beautiful work Klaus, as always. -Bill Klaus Zaepke wrote: > > > Hey, does anybody else know of Kraftwerk apperances in comics? > > Sergio Macedo: "Kraftwerk. The synthetic boys"; Rock + Folk 129 > (10/1977), p. 106-109. > > Mad Peck: "Battle of the gnats!"; Creem 8/1978, p. 71 > > Serge Dutfoy, Michael Sadler, Dominique Farran: "Geschichte der > Rockmusic in Comics (1986), p. 75 > > Ottifanten 22.08.1992 ("Autobahn" reference) > > Clin B. Morgan, Chuck Death: "Great Pop Things => The Kraftwerk > Story". > Part 1: "They tried to change the world by sending robots to do > their gigs..."; New Musical Express 07.02.1998, p. 86. > Part 2: "Kraftwerk is helped by Dave!"; New Musical Express > 14.02.1998, p. 62 > > "El Bueno de Cuttlas"; El Pais de las Tentaciones 12.06.1998, p. 47. > > GEN 13 "Ordinary Horses" mini series # 1 ("Musique non stop" > reference). > > There is also a Gotlib comic short story that features Kraftwerk, but > I don't have the exact bibliographic data. Anyone else? > > Thanks, > Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO2000 Video Date: 09 Dec 1999 21:16:11 -0800 Yes, this has been on my mind since the first glance of Expo2000. What/who made that shifting fractal? It is really quite good. If Kraftwerk made it, then they must have mastered other computer disciplines while on their 13 year sojourn. -Bill fxcordero wrote: > > To German KW Mailing List Members: > In viewing the Expo2000 video, please note the 3-D rendering of a stage and > building....could this be the building where Kraftwerk will perform their > concert? > Did Kraftwerk insert the fractals into their concert screens using stock > footage? > > http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/expo2000a.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) The "Expo 2000" song Date: 10 Dec 1999 08:31:57 +0100 I guess they want to pick up the thread there, where they dropped it 13 years ago ;-) Gubbolf Georg Jajus wrote: > Well, the "Kling Klang Mix 2002" is really great and sounds very funky > - WOW ;-)! > But the rest? > I don't think that this is the right way to try a "comeback". E.g. > listen to the "Radio Mix" - it sounds nearly the same as Kraftwerk have > sounded with the "Electric cafe" album - but this was 1986 and things > have changed since then. Nearly the same beats, nearly the same > electronic voices. No progress since 13 Years? > I'm a bit disappointed. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Finarvas Subject: Re: (kw) comics Date: 10 Dec 1999 08:55:00 +0100 nsw wrote: > I saw on the Internet somewhere a page from a comic book (modern looking > mainstream type of comic actually) that had the words boing, boom, and > tschack as "sound effects" for a fight in a city. > > --Nate Yeah me too.. Wasn't that posted here on the list some month(s) ago? /Finarvas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timour JGENTI Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk.de Date: 10 Dec 1999 09:34:55 +0100 "Andréas Hagström" wrote: > > I found this little hidden animation. Its not linked to the rest of the > site. > http://www.kraftwerk.de/images/machani-2.gif > I wounder what machani stands for? Probably "Machine animated (gif)", looks like a part of the Man Machine clip. BTW someone knows how to retrieve flash .swf animations to download on a local disk? (maybe in some cache when visualizing?) -- Timour JGENTI _________________________________________________ _____________ IFP poste 8075 _____________ http://www.multimania.com/timlcf/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ullrich Peter Subject: AW: (kw) kraftwerk.de Date: 10 Dec 1999 12:39:13 +0100 >BTW someone knows how to retrieve flash .swf animations to >download on a local disk? (maybe in some cache when visualizing?) When you use Netscape just have a look in your Cache-Directory sorted by Date. The last files are the right ones - just give better names as the names are temporary and useless names. To play just drag and drop onto a netscape window. works fine! Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: http://come.to/ullrich or the full link http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3586/ Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician .oooO KAPSCH AG / ECCN Vienna / Austria ( ) Oooo. Traffic Control and Transmission Technology ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: FW: (kw) kraftwerk.de Date: 10 Dec 1999 13:47:57 +0100 Peter wrote: When you use Netscape just have a look in your Cache-Directory sorted by Date=2E The last files are the right ones - just give better names as the names are=20= temporary and useless names=2E To play just drag and drop onto a netscape=20= window=2E works fine! O=2EK=2E , but has anyone figured out what the real names of the shockwave-files=20= should be to make the whole site work locally, I mean with links and so on=2E=2E=2E (I'm working on it myself) /Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christian Reupke Subject: Re: FW: (kw) kraftwerk.de Date: 10 Dec 1999 13:49:09 +0100 At 13:47 10-12-99 +0100, johan.andersson@allers.aller.se wrote: >Peter wrote: > >When you use Netscape just have a look in your Cache-Directory sorted by Date. >The last files are the right ones - just give better names as the names >are temporary and useless names. To play just drag and drop onto a >netscape window. works fine! > > >O.K. , but has anyone figured out what the real names of the >shockwave-files should be to make the whole site work locally, I mean with >links and so on... >(I'm working on it myself) It would be great if someone could make a mirror and zip it for downloading :) /Christian -- Christian Reupke christian@reupke.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo2000 Video Date: 10 Dec 1999 14:26:41 +0100 hi, Thank you very much for the info. Btw, is there a way to save the video in RealVideo or other format? Cheers, Arnaud # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Rundqvist Subject: Re: (kw) comics Date: 10 Dec 1999 13:39:45 +0100 (MET) It's him. http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/8382/andersson/ /Roboten On Fri, 10 Dec 1999, Finarvas wrote: > > nsw wrote: > > > I saw on the Internet somewhere a page from a comic book (modern looking > > mainstream type of comic actually) that had the words boing, boom, and > > tschack as "sound effects" for a fight in a city. > > --Nate > > Yeah me too.. Wasn't that posted here on the list some month(s) ago? > /Finarvas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magnus Finbom" Subject: (kw) new-album-swedish-release-info Date: 10 Dec 1999 12:51:56 +0100 Damn! Just terrorized all local record stores here in Skovde/Sweden. -"eehhh, Kraftwerk's new album? Well, our suppliers get's it today, so you'll come back next week and we wil surely have it". /Magnus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Martin Halldin" Subject: (kw) John Andersson homepage was: Ralf in comic Date: 10 Dec 1999 11:17:58 GMT I have a small and not very impressive homepage (in swedish) about John Andersson, a great Swedish surreal painter and comic-writer. Many of his works are directly influenced by Kraftwerk. Here's the URL: http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/8382/andersson Peace. /Martin ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nat Heidler" Subject: (kw) Totally Off Topic Date: 10 Dec 1999 09:44:13 -0600 There is a _very_ interesting new app. It's a talking bird (sorry, I think it is english only) that follows you around the web, tells jokes, and has some kind of voice synthesis going on. Check it out at www.bonzibuddy.com. Or you can get it from www.download.com. Pick most popular downloads and it should show up. You can even put in phrases for it speak. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fredrik Nystrom" Subject: (kw) Good stuff Date: 10 Dec 1999 18:51:21 +0100 Got both the cd and vinyl today from www.hotstuff.se=20 (expo2000) =20 Very good stuff :) =20 =20 /Fredrik=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) John Andersson homepage was: Ralf in comic Date: 10 Dec 1999 10:36:31 -0800 >I have a small and not very impressive homepage (in swedish) about John >Andersson, a great Swedish surreal painter and comic-writer. Many of his >works are directly influenced by Kraftwerk. Here's the URL: >http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/8382/andersson > >Peace. >/Martin I like your page, John Andersson is really talented! I enjoyed all the works you scanned in. It's too bad I can't read Swedish, because I'd like to know what the characters are saying. Is the "Schneiderduschen" comic all about Florian as some sort of superhero? ---Jason Jason Polland International Sports Sciences Association Multimedia and Web Design http://www.issaonline.com 1-800-892-ISSA (805) 884-8111 / Fax (805) 884-8119 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "davethewave@excite.com" Subject: (kw) uk release Date: 10 Dec 1999 10:59:07 -0800 (PST) on the mark & lard show this afternoon on bbc radio 1 they played the new kraftwerk single and have made it there single of the week next week. which means it will be played sometime between 2pm and 4pm everyday!!! i have known mark radcliffe as a dj for many years when he did a show on local radio in manchester. when kraftwerk played back in 81 he did an interview with ralf, so i new he was a big kraftwerk fan. he said that the uk release date is january 31 and that there will be some remixes by top dj's. thanks to everyone on the list for all the info, it's invaluable. p.s. did any of you guys go to the kraftwerk conventions in blackpool a few years ago???? _______________________________________________________ Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Sueddeutsche Zeitung Date: 10 Dec 1999 21:01:03 +0000 Todays Sueddeutsche Zeitung has a Kraftwerk article (German language): http://www.sueddeutsche.de/aktuell/feuill_j.htm Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk TV appearance? Date: 10 Dec 1999 21:01:03 +0000 According to the December issue of Groove, there is a possibility that Kraftwerk will appear at the German TV show "Wetten Dass" in January. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) (Fwd) wolfgang fluer und audioscope Date: 10 Dec 1999 21:01:03 +0000 Once again, I was asked to forward an announcement to the list: ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- "ich war ein roboter"-ueber diese epoche seines lebens und darueber hinaus erzaehlt wolfgang fluer und zeigt interessante videos am 11-12-1999 um 21h im druckluft-oberhausen. die musik kommt von audioscope (http://www.audioscope.de) aus dem neuesten sachbuch "einstweilige verfuegung" (auftragsarbeit von ralf und florian) gibt wolfgang fluer pikantes und amuesantes bekannt. "i was a robot"-wolfgang fluer tells about this epoche of his life and further experiences of his artistic career and he shows interesting videos. date. tuesday, 11-12-99 , druckluft-oberhausen he also reads out of the newest interim order (commissioned work of ralf and florian) delicate and amusing chapters. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Expo video Date: 10 Dec 1999 20:14:46 -0000 Help, Someone posted the URL for the video earlier today and I've deleted it by accident. Can someone please mail it to me Thanks Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Di Sante" Subject: R: (kw) electro world Date: 09 Dec 1999 16:16:18 +0100 -----Messaggio originale----- Da: tadream A: kraftwerk@xmission.com Data: giovedì 9 dicembre 1999 12.17 Oggetto: (kw) electro world >while surfing the web i came across the following item : >Electroids - Electro World (catalog number: WARP35CD2) >and this comment right next to it : >"If KW was to make music 30 years from now, this is how it would sound" >any info on that? >tadream I have it. I think it's very nice, very KW - ish about voices and rhythms. On the cover you see 4 men with white anti-radioactivity overalls. Back is yellow, fonts "green led". I think it's an example of kraftwerkian music not played by KW. ELECKTROIDS - "ELEKTROWORLD" - 1995 01 Future Tone 02 Perpetual Motion 03 Japanese Elecktronics 04 Check Mate 05 Mystery World 06 Silicon Valley 07 Midnight Drive 08 Thermo Science 09 Stun Gun 10 Floatation 11 Time Tunnel Warp Music / EMI Music Warp CD35/60.37 Didi Milan - PDN didi@padanialibera.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elekktro@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) uk release Date: 10 Dec 1999 17:17:21 EST Yeah! Kraftwerk remixed by top DJs. That's what I've ever dreamed of! What about DJ Hell from Munich or Anthony Rother? Regards Elekktro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elekktro@aol.com Subject: Re: R: (kw) electro world Date: 10 Dec 1999 17:56:57 EST "Japanese Elecktronics" has a very strong "Taschenrechner"-feeling. The whole album is a hymn to "Computer World"... cool! Regards Elekktro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jean Christophe DERRIEN Subject: (kw) YMO - Remixes Technopolis 2000-01 Date: 11 Dec 1999 01:05:11 +0200 I just bought the Japanese release of YMO "Remixes Technopolis 2000-01", just out now. The cover is really Kraftwerk-ish (three showroom dummies behind their decks), but YMO was like a Japanese Kraftwerk, sort of... JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: (kw) PLaNeT DeR ViSiOnEn Date: 10 Dec 1999 20:49:43 -0700 Just received my EXPO2000 CD single today from Flensburg, Germany. "Stare in to the CD case" Note: CD case by Multi-Image-Gerladi Design & Development out of Kennebunkport, Maine! Tsk! Tsk! EMI! Their EXPO2000 Kling Klang 2001 (funky mix) as listed is Kling Klang 2002. Been sampling for the last two hours and tweaking on my SP-808. I can already see the "Planet Der Visionen Mix" and "Planet of Visions/Missions Mix". Not to mention the MNT (Man, Nature Technology) mixes. Check out the disco out hi-hat and a return of the a la Numbers male voice. Mixes great with 'Pocket Calculator". Some new phrases...especially.."Planet of Missions" http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/expo2000a.htm Planet der Visionen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: m.schmidt@top.east.de Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.de Date: 09 Dec 1999 17:08:00 +0100 Erstellt am: 09.12.99 - ist aber nicht unbedingt der Absendetag.=B7 Hallo Kraftwerk-Fans! www.kraftwerk.de ist Online. Es ist eine offizielle Kraftwerk-Site. -- Mit elektrischen Gr=FC=DFen,=B7 Marko ----------------------------------------------------- Germankraft die deutsche Kraftwerk-Homepage:www.kraftwerk.mdis.de ----------------------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bulk@szathmari.com Subject: Re: (kw) electro world Date: 11 Dec 1999 00:40:00 +0100 >while surfing the web i came across the following item : >Electroids - Electro World (catalog number: WARP35CD2) >and this comment right next to it : >"If KW was to make music 30 years from now, this is how it would sound" >any info on that? I had this record. It sounds like they wanted to make kraftwerk like music, but it has about 15% of the real kw feeling. It sounds like it was not finished. Very raw and tiresome record, IMHO. (pure 808, some analog and vocoder, nothing special) I've seen it announced in a store as " KW of the 90's " - - I hope it isn't. (Sorry for being negative.) Bye. Tomazo. --------------------------- Tomazo. www.mp3.com/technopop --------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Gartner Subject: Re: (kw) PLaNeT DeR ViSiOnEn Date: 11 Dec 1999 04:00:54 -0500 > Just received my EXPO2000 CD single today from Flensburg, Germany. "Stare in > to the CD case" > Note: CD case by Multi-Image-Gerladi Design & Development out of > Kennebunkport, Maine! Those Gelardi Design Mutli-Image cases are great, but you can't replace them easily. When I busted up my Gelardi case for Tool's AEnima, the only way I could enjoy the awesome animated artwork was to buy the CD again! Hmm, perhaps Kraftwerk realized that using a nonstandard case would force some people to buy the disc more than once. Another shrewd marketing move from the guys in Dusseldorf!!!!! As for Expo 2000, I think it sounds like a mix between Musique Non Stop and slowed-down Orbital. The sounds are about 10 years old and it's certainly nothing groundbreaking, but I like the track anyway. The funky mix has a newer feel than the rest of the single, but the beats seem lifted directly from Musique Non Stop and sometimes the funk sounds just a little too cheesy. I wouldn't expect KW to be too experimental on a jingle so I wouldn't judge a future album on the basis of this track. For all we know, maybe Kraftwerk doesn't really care at all about the Expo and decided to slap some vocoder on an old track and earn DM 400000 and some publicity for their next album. Their new songs from the tours of the past few years sound a little more promising, but they weren't as refined and complete as Expo 2000. Perhaps Expo 2000 is most important as a sigh of relief to Kraftwerk fans. We have proof that they can still write decent songs. Kraftwerk doesn't have to try to be Aphex Twin, but I would like to hear them branch out a little more from their current late-80s sound. If Kraftwerk want to keep a link to their past, maybe they can dust off their old analog synths from the 70s and mix them with the harder beats and the cleaner production of the 90s. Not many people have been playing with electronic music as long as they have, so I'm sure they've come up with some weird and groundbreaking stuff in Klingklang over the past 15 years. Sometimes I think Kraftwerk is too preoccupied with making music that fits within the constraints of its image to release some of their more interesting stuff. "Synthetic electronic sounds, industrial rhythms all around..." -ericg- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tWiNgO" Subject: (kw) Flash files from kraftwerk.de Date: 11 Dec 1999 23:04:13 +0100 I have put the kraftwerk.de flash files onto my server. http://wiemer.nl/kraftwerk/kw-flash.zip /tWiNgO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shadrach@aol.com Subject: (kw) the 808? please help me vocode Date: 11 Dec 1999 20:08:28 EST hello out there, im a subscriber since yesterday, and a kw admirer for the past 2decade. as an art student in vermont, and not a musician, i wonder about the synthesizers that have created this sound of the future. those of you who might have a moment to spill some info on a page and send it to me are greatly encouraged to do so. im interested in everything; technical summaries, unique equipment configurations, or just simple brand/model numbers. and im classical piano-friendly, even an acquaintance of composing, so this information will not go to waste. finding this message board has rejuvenated my affection for kw, and the passion for elektronic music. sinc- stephen (Shadrach@aol.com) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: Re: (kw) the 808? please help me vocode Date: 11 Dec 1999 18:55:02 -0700 (Shadrach@aol.com) writes: The 808? http://www.rolandus.com/products/press/sp808.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Quamar Zahra" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk remixes needed Date: 11 Dec 1999 19:06:21 PST I'm new to the list and, of course I'm going to be a real bitch by unloading alot of junk on to it. I'm new to Kraftwerk- got into 'em in one of theDetroit shows in '98 (I'm 16 now) and have a couple of locally (Detroit) produced bootlegs with bits and peices of all of the different LPs and some remixes,but want to get totally on the motherfucker. I was looking for the following remixes in mp3 format: Computerwelt remix (from the single) Numbers ("12 remix) (from the single) The Telephone Call ("12 remix), House Phone (from the "12) Radioactivity (William Orbit Hardcore remix) Sex Object ("12 remix) Reworked (music factory mastermix) The mix-medley (razormaid gridlock mix) Sex Object (razormaid mix) Electric Cafe (mixx-it-remix) Die Roboter (us-rap- mix) Sex Object (technopop demo) Computer Welt (Razormaid mix) Powerwork megamix Telephone-Mix Das Modell (rrazormaid edit) Pocket Calculator (mixx-it remix) Telephone Call (razormaid mix) Tour de France (disconet remix) Musique Non Stop-Francois K Remix Robocop 2 (whatever the fuck that song is supposed to be- since we know WolfgangFlur didn't do the soundtrack) Which Kraftwerk album has a day-glo album? One of my friend's has a Kraftwerk album somewhere in his voluminous collection of albums (over a thousand) but didn't want to go digging for it unless it was one I didn't have on CD. Is it 'Computewr World'? Did any Kraftwerk album have day-glo vinyl or has he smoked too much cheeba? (Wonder what drugs Ralf and Florian have (still?) do. Does anyone have mp3s of the Expo 2000 single? I'm one cheap bastard, huh? Has anyone noticed that while Electric Cafe was ignored by just about everyone in the mainstream, it was one of those real well known records on the club circuit in the mid to late '80s and was heavily sampled and remixed, maybe more than any other LP by Die Mensch Maschine? Who wants to see Kraftwerk go into a new direction and reinvent themselves on their upcoming album? I do. They shouldn't fall into being a novelty act that just has a dated sound for the sake of being nostalgic and appealing to people who been there the whole time. That's it. ******************************************************************** Oh bliss! Bliss and heaven! Oh, it was gorgeousness and gorgeousity made flesh. It was like a bird of rarest-spun heaven metal or like silvery wine flowing in a spaceship, gravity all nonsense now. As I slooshied, I knew such lovely pictures! -Alex DeLarge, listening to Beethoven's "The Ninth Symphony" in "A Clockwork Orange" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Frankfurter Rundschau Date: 12 Dec 1999 12:38:13 +0000 The Frankfurter Rundschau has a review of Kraftwerk's "Expo 2000" single (German language): http://www.fr-aktuell.de/fr/140/t140004.htm Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Fluer reading his book in Duesseldorf Date: 12 Dec 1999 12:38:13 +0000 > On Tuesday we went to D=FCsseldorf to hear Wolfgang Fl=FCr reading from = his > book. > He said that he likes the new Expo2000 Single by KW! More precisely, he said that he likes one of the tracks from the single. This could be interpreted as a polite way of saying that he doesn't like the other three tracks. :-) > And... he said that 400.000 DM is a pretty normal payment for a short > jingle. He couldn=B4t understand the heavy discussion that was made arou= nd it. AFAIR his answer was more complex. He actually said that 400.000 DM is a pretty normal payment for a jingle in the *industry* (where such prices are kept secret), but since the EXPO is financed by tax money, people were understandably upset to hear how the EXPO wastes their money, and while he did say that he doesn't understand the heavy criticism towards Kraftwerk, he also stated that the EXPO should be blamed for this affair. BTW: Did anybody attend his lecture in Oberhausen yesterday? Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "MuSiK" Subject: (kw) Florian Schneider true home page Date: 12 Dec 1999 16:52:40 +0100 Here we have his personal homepage :-) for him and his family. http://home.t-online.de/home/GeFlo.Schneider/ MuSiK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) Kraftwerk remixes needed Date: 12 Dec 1999 16:49:05 +0100 There's a 12 inch maxi-single of Neonlight and/or Neonlicht which is "luminous". /Joakim -----Original Message----- ...Which Kraftwerk album has a day-glo album?... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dirk Gruetzmann Subject: (kw) X-Authenticated-Sender: #0000615040@gmx.net Date: 12 Dec 1999 19:11:49 +0100 (MET) Hi, were can I get all MP3 files of the EXPO 2000 jingles? Is it really true that a new album is coming out in January 2000?? Greetings Dirk Grutzmann -- Temps Perdu? Buergerstr. 18 D-40219 Duesseldorf Germany Fax: +49-211-3983467 Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Evans Subject: Re: (kw) Florian Schneider true home page Date: 12 Dec 1999 13:27:21 -0500 (EST) MuSiK wrote: > > Here we have his personal homepage :-) > for him and his family. > > http://home.t-online.de/home/GeFlo.Schneider/ > I don't think so: the Florian that this points to is at Stuttgart and was born in 1977. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Luca Dassi" Subject: R: (kw) Kraftwerk day-glo album Date: 12 Dec 1999 10:46:03 +0100 Quama Zahra wrote: Which Kraftwerk album has a day-glo album? One of my friend's has a Kraftwerk album somewhere in his voluminous collection of albums (over a thousand) but didn't want to go digging for it unless it was one I didn't have on CD. Is it 'Computewr World'? As far as I know, the only day-glo vinyl by KW is (appropriately) the "Neon Lights" 12" which I'm proud to own. Ciao, *Luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: m.schmidt@top.east.de Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk-Spezial Date: 11 Dec 1999 18:33:00 +0100 Erstellt am: 11.12.99 - ist aber nicht unbedingt der Absendetag.=B7 Hallo Kraftwerk-Fans! Am 27.12 bringt der Radiosender DLF von 22.05-22.50 ein KW Spezial. -- Mit elektrischen Gr=FC=DFen,=B7 Marko ----------------------------------------------------- Germankraft die deutsche Kraftwerk-Homepage:www.kraftwerk.mdis.de ----------------------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Gartner Subject: Re: (kw) Florian Schneider true home page Date: 12 Dec 1999 15:03:14 -0500 > From: David Evans > Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 13:27:21 -0500 (EST) > To: musik@cheerful.com (MuSiK) > Cc: kraftwerk@xmission.com > Subject: Re: (kw) Florian Schneider true home page > > MuSiK wrote: >> >> Here we have his personal homepage :-) >> for him and his family. >> >> http://home.t-online.de/home/GeFlo.Schneider/ >> > > I don't think so: the Florian that this points to is at Stuttgart and was > born in 1977. Yeah, he doesn't look too much like Florian either. Well, unless Florian has really been overdosing on Rogaine ;) -ericg- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: occam@POP-HANNOVER.de (occam) Subject: Re: (kw) Fluer reading his book in Duesseldorf Date: 12 Dec 1999 21:02:00 +0200 /MailingListen/Kraftwerk Re: (kw) Fluer reading his book in Duesseldorf Hi Klaus [12.12.99-12:38] >AFAIR his answer was more complex. He actually said that 400.000 DM >is a pretty normal payment for a jingle in the *industry* (where >such prices are kept secret), but since the EXPO is financed by tax >money, people were understandably upset to hear how the EXPO wastes >their money, and while he did say that he doesn't understand the >heavy criticism towards Kraftwerk, he also stated that the EXPO >should be blamed for this affair. ahhh fuck the Medien, ihmo ist Kraftwerk die einziege Band die für die Expo einen passenden Jingel hätte machen können. Alle andern Weltbekannten Stars sind viel zu abgehoben und wollen ehr sich selber dahrstellen. KW hat da aber die Perfekte Mischung hinbekommen. Ein Jingle der ihrem Style entspricht, trotzdem Neutral gespielt werden kann und zur Expo passt. Das sollen die anderen erst mal nachmachen. Und zudem, welche andere Band hat heute soviel Technisches vermögen um sowas 'selber' zu machen. Die wissen was ein Micro ist und könne ein wenig die Klampfe schlagen mehr nicht. Mir fällt im moment keine Band ein die sowas zustande bringet. =[ Occam ]= -- Cosysop: Defiant [05184 958806/7] - User: Quarks Bar [05101 915255/22] Webmaster: www.bbsliste.net - PGP Key per Request PGP-Fingerprint: 9A AC BE 5A B3 DE 2B 0A 2D DE 45 23 7D FF 01 BD # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "nsw" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk day-glo album Date: 12 Dec 1999 16:02:00 -0500 Hello Another "Day-Glo" item of Kraftwerk's is the Pocket Calculator/ Dentaku 7" single which I own. --Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: occam@POP-HANNOVER.de (occam) Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk-Spezial Date: 12 Dec 1999 21:43:00 +0200 01000101 01011000 01010000 01001111 00110010 00110000 00110000 00110000 Topic: (kw) Kraftwerk-Spezial Hi m.schmidt [ 11.12.99-18:33 ] >Am 27.12 bringt der Radiosender DLF von 22.05-22.50 ein KW Spezial. Url ? RealAudio Stream ? >## CrossPoint v3.11 ## Besser is das ;-) -- 01001111 01100011 01100011 01100001 01101101 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dolf Wiemer" Subject: (kw) Flash files from kraftwerk.de (alternative server) Date: 12 Dec 1999 21:32:23 +0100 Apparently there is a problem with my server. I have put them on an alternative location: http://www.xs4all.nl/~twingo/kw-flash.zip /tWiNgO > From: "tWiNgO" > Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 23:04:13 +0100 > To: "Mailinglist Kraftwerk" > Subject: (kw) Flash files from kraftwerk.de > > > I have put the kraftwerk.de flash files onto my server. > > http://wiemer.nl/kraftwerk/kw-flash.zip > > > /tWiNgO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charlie Crash" Subject: (kw) Day glo... Date: 13 Dec 1999 00:08:14 +0100 The original english LP version of Computerlove is UV-Luminent, and gives quite a flash when luminated with a black UV-tube. Crash # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob VonMoss Subject: (kw) VeloNews: "Pick a theme song for the Tour de France" Date: 13 Dec 1999 00:15:03 -0600 VeloNews, a cycling publication, is holding a readers' choice awards survey. There are 50 questions. Question 42 is "Pick a theme song for the Tour de France" To vote for Kraftwerk's "Tour de France" by FAX through email, send an email to: mailto:remote-printer.velonews/readers_choice_awards@13034439919.iddd.tpc.int with the text of the message as follows (cut and paste into the message): 42. Pick a theme song for the Tour de France: Kraftwerk's "Tour de France" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gregg Shenton Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 single for sale at HMV in North East England Date: 13 Dec 1999 13:14:10 -0000 Just purchased the Expo 2000 single from HMV at Gateshead Metro Centre for 7.99 UK pounds. There was one left on the stand if anyone is after a copy. The assistant said they have just put them on sale today at the store so maybe other HMV's around the country now have them in stock. Regards Gregg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Rundqvist Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 single for sale at HMV in North East England Date: 13 Dec 1999 14:55:14 +0100 (MET) 77.99 UK Pounds sounds very much. To be on sale it's more than a lot. In sweden (imported) they go for 75kr SEK (around 5.45 UK Pounds) http://www.hotstuff.se (not .com, that will take you far away from Kraftwerk-stuff ;P) /Roboten On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Gregg Shenton wrote: > Just purchased the Expo 2000 single from HMV at Gateshead Metro Centre for > 7.99 UK pounds. There was one left on the stand if anyone is after a copy. > > The assistant said they have just put them on sale today at the store so > maybe other HMV's around the country now have them in stock. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Finarvas Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 single for sale at HMV in North East England Date: 13 Dec 1999 18:08:32 +0100 Martin Rundqvist wrote: > 77.99 UK Pounds sounds very much. > > On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Gregg Shenton wrote: > > > 7.99 UK pounds. Eh? /Finarvas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Rundqvist Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 single for sale at HMV in North East England Date: 13 Dec 1999 17:45:08 +0100 (MET) Of course I mean 7.99 UK Pounds, but that's a bit more than 5.5 UK Pounds anyway. /Roboten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Barth" Subject: RE: (kw) Kraftwerk remixes needed Date: 13 Dec 1999 22:59:36 +0100 -----Original Message----- ... I'm new to the list and, ... I was looking for the following remixes in mp3 format: [very long list]... Stop piracy, buy the bootlegs! Erik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Konvoy? Date: 13 Dec 1999 21:49:43 -0700 June 9, 2000............................. http://www.groove.nl/news.html http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/expo2000a.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Holton Subject: (kw) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:19:17 -0000 Date: 14 Dec 1999 02:31:37 -0700 >Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 10:59:07 -0800 (PST) >From: "davethewave@excite.com" >Subject: (kw) uk release >on the mark & lard show this afternoon on bbc radio 1 they played the new k>raftwerk single and have made it there single of the week next week. which >means it will be played sometime between 2pm and 4pm everyday!!! From Wavy Davy Gravy to Dave the Wave!!! I've got a lot more respect for Radcliffe having just read "Showbusiness" The story of his addiction to being in a band. 4 or 5 times I was in tears laughing. May not be your taste in humour so have a quick flick flick through first - heartily recomended DAve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Holton Subject: (kw) Luminous vinyl Date: 14 Dec 1999 09:30:47 -0000 >Which Kraftwerk album has a day-glo album? One of my friend's has a >Kraftwerk album somewhere in his voluminous collection of albums (over a I used to own the second ever luminous vinyl record (the first being a Three Dog Night track I believe) and it was Neon Lights with TransEurope Express and shpwroom dummies on the b . It was fun you held it up to the light then got it spinning and turneed the house lights off. Groovy Sold it donkeys years ago Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: RE: (kw) Kraftwerk remixes needed Date: 14 Dec 1999 10:51:25 +0100 On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 22:59:36 +0100, Erik Barth wrote: >Stop piracy, buy the bootlegs! hmmm. perhaps Bootlegs are not piracy :-) Well , so, it's a huge new ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: (kw) Re: Kraftwerk day-glo album Date: 13 Dec 1999 12:43:39 +0100 At 10.46 12/12/99 +0100, Luca Dassi wrote: Quama Zahra wrote: Which Kraftwerk album has a day-glo album? One of my friend's has a Kraftwerk album somewhere in his voluminous collection of albums (over a thousand) but didn't want to go digging for it unless it was one I didn't have on CD. Is it 'Computewr World'? >As far as I know, the only day-glo vinyl by KW is (appropriately) the >"Neon Lights" 12" which I'm proud to own. >*Luca* Add to your list the red vinyl limited edition of Tribal Gathering. Didi Milan - PDN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce Lloyd Subject: (kw) Expo 2K in Canada? Date: 14 Dec 1999 06:47:59 -0500 Has anyone seen the single yet in Canada? HMV at 333 Yonge St. in Toronto stared at me inexplicably when I asked about it. "I dunno dude, but Rage Against the Machine has a new disc!" -- Email: fridge@sympatico.ca Fido: grizz@fido.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred_Harding@idx.com Subject: (kw) TDF/Expo 2000 Date: 14 Dec 1999 08:49:08 -0500 I finally found the TDF CD single here in Boston. While it is nice to have a "missing piece", it certainly could use some work - unless I'm missing something. Is the "multi media" portion of the CD simply the TDF video? Are there hidden hot spots that I'm not noticing? Pretty minimal if not. Not that that would be a surprise from KW. As for the future direction and sound of the boys, I for one don't need them "updating" anything. Their sound is classic. They don't need to blend in elements from inferior trends that have developed over the years they have been absent from "the scene". I don't listen to much electronic music for one simple reason. What I hear only makes me want to listen to Kraftwerk, as they did (and do) everything better than the "competition". The day I hear some turntable work on a KW album is the day I stop listening to that album. Seriously, every trend isn't meant to be followed, even if all the sheep are flocking. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jan Svenungsson Subject: (kw) Wolfgang's book Date: 14 Dec 1999 09:47:01 -0500 I am reading Wolfgang Flur's book now and that is quite an experience. I haven't finished yet so I'll spare my judgement but I am getting very curious about this business with a "Einstweilige Verfugung" mentioned in the announcements for his talks. Does anyone (Klaus?) know if there reall= y is a court-order issued against the book? (I bought mine in a big booksto= re in Berlin a couple of days ago) - and if there is one: what are these complaints of R&F that they can argue before a court? That they don't lik= e it - very likely - but to take legal action!?! Very peculiar, indeed. Jan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) EXPO magazin Date: 14 Dec 1999 15:58:08 +0100 It appears a small review on Kw in EXPO magazin (No. 3, Sommer 1999, page 8): "Und Die Rockgruppe Kraftwerk schreibt eine Erkennungsmelodie." Translation (made by http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/): "[...] And the group of skirts Kraftwerk writes a theme song." The Expo Arena (the place where Kw will play) is inside the Expo area between a hotel and the Investoren-geb=E4ude (Investor buildings). It's i= n the One World Plaza where is also the Deutscher Pavillon(German Pavilion), Th= e Disko and the Christliche Kirchen (Christian churches). Arena. Sie bietet 14000 Besuchern Platz und ist der zentrale Veranstaltungsort der Expo 2000 an der One World Plaza. Das mehrgeschossi= ge Geb=E4ude "Die Arena" hat eine riesge Glasfront, wird 128 Meter lang und = 115 Meter breit. Der Rohbau ist bereits fertig. Arena. It offers workstation to 14000 visitors and is the central place o= f event of the Expo 2000 to the One World Plaza. The multi-storey building "The Arena" has a riesge glass front, becomes 128 meters long and 115 met= ers wide. The carcass is already finished. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dean" Subject: (kw) kraftwerk Date: 14 Dec 1999 10:02:01 GMT EXPO 2000. To all you Germans etc. out there!!! Please keep us up to date on what postion in the top 40 the new KW single is reaching... BTW, it's pretty cool. I can't decide whether it's new and innovative or just a follow-up to Electric Cafe. It sounds familiar yet so different and new. As for the funkier 2002 mix, it's the same story, yet it doesn't sound like EC but more like something someone else made. All the best, Matt Sellafield 2 will produce 7.5 tons of plutonium every year. 1.5 kilograms of plutonium make the nuclear bomb. Sellafield 2 will release the same amount of radioactivity into the environment as Chernobyl every 4.5 years. One of these radioactive substances, Krypton 85, will cause death and skin cancer. (Kraftwerk 1991, c 1991 Klingklang) sod that, visit me at www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palace/8922 !!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: (kw) Ltd Edition Single Date: 14 Dec 1999 09:43:59 GMT Hi Everybody I've been trying DESPERATELY for the past few days to get my hands on this item. I'm in Germany so it should be relatively easy, but no Kartstadt/Hertie/Music Corner/WOM stores claim to know it. Has anybody else had similar problems or are you not quite as mad as me in your search for Kraftwerk material? Regards Matthew ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: (kw) [OT] r u there? Date: 14 Dec 1999 14:40:07 GMT I recently unsubscribed from the digest and resubscribed to the normal list, but I'm not getting any mails. is anyone? can anyone hear me? please mail me privately, I'm sure there are many kraftwerk related issues being spoken about and this is fairly OT. overly appreciative large ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jean Christophe DERRIEN Subject: (kw) off topic : your own music Date: 14 Dec 1999 16:51:03 +0200 Sorry to bother you with this, but it seems that some of you create music on their own. Since 1995, I'm a screenwriter, writing for French television cartoons and series. I recently met a company who plans to do a WebTv (like www.pop.com) and they are interested in developing their own series developed in FLASH movies. I pitched them one of my projects, they seem to be very interested, although we're very early in the process. I plan to do a weekly serie written by myself, with my own universe ("Twin Peaks meets The Orb"). But what does it have to do with you ? I plan to include new music in this program. I need you for that, those who wrote unknown techno/house/ambient tracks. So email me privately (not on the lists) if you have these skills. Right now, I dont have a contract with this new company, I wont get paid for a long time (we've got to find investors, but these investors have to see what's on this WebTv : so I'll have to do a pilot for March 2000), so I wont promise you lots of gold, but it can happen. What I can promise you right now is that if your music is included on the show, you'll have credit for that in the end titles. If it's gonna be successful (well... we can dream of that), you'll have money ( a little bit) and fame (who knows ?). Dont bother the lists like I did, Email me privately. Thanks for your attention, JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) Re: Kraftwerk Flipside news Date: 14 Dec 1999 18:53:52 +0000 According to Flipside UK magazine the following Kraftwerk news has been confirmed by sources close to EMI : 1. in 1994 a compilation entitled "In motion" (a sort of greatest hits) was mooted and artwork prepared but never released 2. in 1996 Ralf Hutter reveelaed to EMI Japan whilst overseeing the Computer World Jap reissue that Kraftwerk had an album of new material to present to EMI 3. in 1997 the same album was rejected by EMI 4. in 1999 the band finished rerecording and rewiting and have presented the finished album to EMI.. How much of this is true, nobody knows. -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar R Johansson Subject: (kw) Swedish release Date: 15 Dec 1999 00:19:01 +0100 The swedish release of Expo 2000 will be 31/1 2000 (source: EMI Stockholm) -- Gunnar R Johansson gunnar@gunnar.net - mer kontakt : http://www.gunnar.net/.sig # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) New press articles Date: 15 Dec 1999 00:50:28 +0000 Two new Kraftwerk press articles (both in German): 1) http://news.haz.de/HOME/HANNOVER/story24366.html 2) http://www.berliner-morgenpost.de/bin/bm/e?u=/bm/inhalt/heute/feuill eton/story14104.html (with a few words from Ralf Huetter, who says that Kraftwerk will "probably" play at the EXPO and "definitely" release a new album during the next century). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angelo" Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 Video Date: 15 Dec 1999 00:20:40 -0200 Hi werkers! I saw that (*.ram) video from Expo 2000 in the site www.emimusic.de I liked it! Does anyone knows if is there other site what contains the same video in (*.rm). If is there please notify me personaly or in this KW list? The Kraftwerk fan ... ============================================ //////////ANGELO///////////////////// angelo@urbi.com.br Miguel Angelo C. Praça////// http://www.urbi.com.br/users/angelo \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ICQ: 11606126 /////////////////////// ============================================ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ak-47 Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Video Date: 15 Dec 1999 12:27:47 +0100 Angelo wrote: > > Hi werkers! > > I saw that (*.ram) video from Expo 2000 in the site www.emimusic.de > I liked it! Does anyone knows if is there other site what contains the same > video in (*.rm). If is there please notify me personaly or in this KW list? sometimes it works when you download the ram-file, open it in a text editor and then you can see the real url where to download it! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Mills Subject: (kw) RADIOACTIVITY (Kevorkian 7inch remix) Date: 15 Dec 1999 15:32:35 -0000 Hi Werker of the World - has anyone got an mp3 available of the 7" Kevorkian remix of RADIOACTIVITY (not Radioaktivitat)?????? Regards Paul Mills paulm@intercell.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: occam@POP-HANNOVER.de (occam) Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Video Date: 15 Dec 1999 04:35:00 +0200 01000101 01011000 01010000 01001111 00110010 00110000 00110000 00110000 Topic: (kw) Expo 2000 Video Hi Angelo [ 15.12.99-00:20 ] >I saw that (*.ram) video from Expo 2000 in the site www.emimusic.de >I liked it! Does anyone knows if is there other site what contains the same >video in (*.rm). If is there please notify me personaly or in this KW list? Today i have Download a *.rm File in the Folowing Methode. View the Source of the Side Get Url of the .ram File (or 'make' a url from the Page Infos..) Download it with GetRight Send the .ram File to Editor so there must be a Url of the .rm File Download the .rm File with GetRight.... i hope it work, but i don't know. -- 01001111 01100011 01100011 01100001 01101101 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RCCGB@aol.com Subject: (kw) EXPO 2000 available from HMV Date: 15 Dec 1999 13:50:34 EST EXPO 2000 is available in the UK now on import from the HMV website. www.hmv.co.uk It costs =A37.99 (UKP) plus =A31 delivery. And it only took two days to arr= ive! Andy Hine Chairman The Roller Coaster Club of Great Britain www.rccgb.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) 5 x 2000 Date: 15 Dec 1999 20:06:11 +0000 davethewave@excite.com wrote: > i have known mark radcliffe as a dj for many years when he did a show on > local radio in manchester. when kraftwerk played back in 81 he did an > interview with ralf, so i new he was a big kraftwerk fan. I haven't heard his programme much since it moved from the evening slot (yes, that was a while ago) but back then he was even known to play pre-Autobahn Kraftwerk! Emanuel Mair wrote: > Anyway I loaded kraftwerk.de on a Wintendo with M$IE and yes it was very > pretty, but like most sites that require a certain client configuration > there was hardly any useful content. Hear hear! Shadrach@aol.com wrote: > > hello out there, im a subscriber since yesterday, and a kw admirer for the > past 2decade. as an art student in vermont, and not a musician, i wonder > about the synthesizers that have created this sound of the future. those of > you who might have a moment to spill some info on a page and send it to me > are greatly encouraged to do so. im interested in everything; technical > summaries, unique equipment configurations, or just simple brand/model > numbers. As you may have seen, the FAQ contains a section on this. However, I need to expand this section. This and other substantial updates to the FAQ should appear from next January/February. Der Automat wrote: > Kevin Busby wrote: > >> This is the best solution and >> should be immediately comprehensible to anyone who has been taught to draw >> a line graph. >> -|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--| >> -4 -3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3 4 >> <- BC AD-> > > The line you mention is actually thus: > > -|--|--|--|--|--|--|--| > -4 -3 -2 -1 1 2 3 4 > <- BC AD-> No, that's not the line I mentioned at all; with respect, I think you've missed my point(s!) entirely. But perhaps we had better discuss this further only by private mail, or people will get cross ! ;-) > BTW, If there are 70's, 80's and 90's, how will we call this new decade?, > the 00's? Well, weren't the 1900's called "The roaring hundreds"? So I suppose it will just have to be "the hundreds"... Klaus Zaepke wrote: > (with a few words from Ralf Huetter, who says that Kraftwerk will > "probably" play at the EXPO and "definitely" release a new album > during the next century). Whenever that may be! :-) Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) 5 x 2000 Date: 15 Dec 1999 12:23:41 -0800 >> BTW, If there are 70's, 80's and 90's, how will we call this new decade?, >> the 00's? > >Well, weren't the 1900's called "The roaring hundreds"? So I suppose it will >just have to be "the hundreds"... The 1900's were called the "oughts", oddly enough. People would say "nineteen-ought-six" for 1906, for example. The 1920's were the "roaring twenties", at least in the United States, because there was an abundance of economic prosperity during that time. So much, in fact, that it was soon followed by the great depression of the 1930's. D'ohh! ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: (kw) Music Computor Date: 15 Dec 1999 21:50:40 -0800 The idea is Music Non Stop. The componants are from the likes of Komputer, Kraftwelt, Hardfloor and Kraftwerk. The result, well, it's in progress. I may finish it off tonight and post it tomorrow. It is for you, my friends. http://members.xoom.com/MC3P0/ - this page is just a temp until my domain is registered. -Bill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Henrik Olsson" Subject: (kw) Bootleg in N.Y. & London Date: 16 Dec 1999 11:14:48 +0100 I=B4m going to NY & London in the near future. If anyone has suggestions where to find Kraftwerk bootlegs in those cities, please mail me privately. Other suggestions when it comes to record/CD stores are also welcome ! Thanx, Henrik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: richard.poolton@dmgexhib.co.uk Subject: (kw) EXPO 2000 available from HMV Date: 16 Dec 1999 10:07:01 GMT =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5FForward Hea= der=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F What a rip off!! Got it in Virgin Harrow yesterday for =A34=2E99 also B= oxman are selling it at =A34 inc p&p from their web-site Oh and Ralf if you are reading this be advised Single edit - way too slow and dull First remix=2C longer therefor duller Second Remix=2C now that's more like it! Why didn't you make this the m= ain version!! Lost the plot or what!!!!! Third Remix=2C dull dull dull dull!!!!!!!!!!!!=3E=20 =20 Sort it out boys or go retire! Rich = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) KW MP3's FTP server Date: 16 Dec 1999 11:43:40 +0100 Hi, I have set up a small FTP server with only KW rare stuff (almost all the rare stuff I have so far) It's not very fast because I must restrict access to 2 simultaneious users at the same time. No ratio . The address is: kraftwerk.dynip.com Anonymous Login. Uploads are very welcome even if there's no ratio. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: (kw) re: Expo2000 Date: 16 Dec 1999 11:10:14 -0000 Ooo Richie, you can be so masterful at times ;-) Agree with the sentiments though. What a disappointment, although, quite frankly, I wasn't expecting much. Jules > Oh and Ralf if you are reading this be advised > > Single edit - way too slow and dull > First remix, longer therefor duller > Second Remix, now that's more like it! Why didn't you make this the main > version!! Lost the plot or what!!!!! > Third Remix, dull dull dull dull!!!!!!!!!!!!> Julian Seifert - Senior Structural Design Engineer EVE Engineering Design Services Tel: +44 (0)208 879 8837 Fax: +44 (0)208 879 8875 Email: julian.seifert@evetranscom.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: Re: (kw) Ltd Edition Single Date: 16 Dec 1999 12:15:50 +0100 > > I've been trying DESPERATELY for the past few days to get my hands on this > item. I'm in Germany so it should be relatively easy, but no > Kartstadt/Hertie/Music Corner/WOM stores claim to know it. > > Has anybody else had similar problems or are you not quite as mad as me in > your search for Kraftwerk material? > > Regards > Matthew if i'm not completely wrong, the ltd. edition is only on sale at the karstadt store in hannover. Jan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: richard.poolton@dmgexhib.co.uk Subject: Fwd:RE: (kw) EXPO 2000 available from HMV Date: 16 Dec 1999 11:54:54 GMT Nice to hear people agreeing with me! Oh, and nice to know you still exist Jules!! Ciao Rich (and no lyric quoting signature from me! - coz that is NAFF!) But seriously folks, I would say that Expo 2000 IS worth buying for the upbeat mix, but overall you'll be dissappointed Ooo Richie, you can be so masterful at times ;-) Agree with the sentiments though. What a disappointment, although, quite frankly, I wasn't expecting much. Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk Date: 16 Dec 1999 16:21:21 +0100 Do you really believe it will reach the top 40 ? ;-) Gubbolf Matthew Dean wrote: > > EXPO 2000. To all you Germans etc. out there!!! Please keep us up to > date on what postion in the top 40 the new KW single is reaching... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elekktro@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk Date: 16 Dec 1999 10:44:13 EST Gunnar Wess wrote: > Do you really believe it will reach the top 40 ? ;-) In the WOM Sale-Charts (6.12.-12.12.) Expo 2000 is on position 7 whilst the new Britney Spears Single ("Born to fuck you" or something like that) is only on position 10! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk Date: 16 Dec 1999 11:14:47 +0000 did anyone notice that UPN 50 from Detroit uses a TEE cover in it's news ads. lenny g >> Do you really believe it will reach the top 40 ? ;-) > >In the WOM Sale-Charts (6.12.-12.12.) Expo 2000 is on position 7 whilst the >new Britney Spears Single ("Born to fuck you" or something like that) is only >on position 10! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk Date: 16 Sep 1999 17:52:11 +0200 Oops ! Sorry. Haven't noticed yet. I'm really surpriced. Thank you for the info :-) Elekktro@aol.com wrote: > In the WOM Sale-Charts (6.12.-12.12.) Expo 2000 is on position 7 Anders Wilhelm wrote: >Well... it was on place 34 yesterday... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Charts (was: Re: (kw) kraftwerk) Date: 16 Dec 1999 22:08:38 +0000 > > Do you really believe it will reach the top 40 ? ;-) > > In the WOM Sale-Charts (6.12.-12.12.) Expo 2000 is on position 7 The WOM charts are not representative for the German music market. The Media Control charts are probably the best German music charts, and Kraftwerk didn't even enter the Media Control Top 100 yet. > Well... it was on place 34 yesterday... Place 34 in which charts? Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk at the Haus der Geschichte Date: 16 Dec 1999 22:08:38 +0000 See http://www.hdg.de/Wob/de/view/class125_id1001808.html for a photo of Kraftwerk's contribution to the "Krauts - Fritz - Piefkes...?" exhibition at the Haus der Geschichte in Bonn. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) MP3 Date: 16 Dec 1999 22:08:38 +0000 I found this link at uk.media.radio.radcliffe: http://www.wolves4westbrom2.demon.co.uk/radc_kraftwerk.mp3 Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Wolfgang's book Date: 16 Dec 1999 22:08:38 +0000 > I am reading Wolfgang Flur's book now and that is quite an experience. I > haven't finished yet so I'll spare my judgement but I am getting very > curious about this business with a "Einstweilige Verfugung" mentioned in > the announcements for his talks. Does anyone (Klaus?) know if there really > is a court-order issued against the book? Yes, it's true. > - and if there is one: what are these complaints of R&F that they can argue before a > court? Wolfgang Fluer quoted some examples at his lecture in Duesseldorf last week. Judging from these examples, it seems they're pretending that he made up basically everything in his book that isn't backed up by hard, indubitable facts... ;-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) New "Expo 2000" Promo Date: 16 Dec 1999 22:08:38 +0000 EMI has issued a new CD promo sampler featuring Kraftwerk's "Expo 2000" Radio Mix. The other tracks on the CD are: - Robbie Williams: She's the One (Radio Mix) - Beastie Boys: Alive (Remastered) - Chris Rabatz: Die Haende zum Himmel (Radio Edit) Catalogue number: EMI CDP 000.246 (KW 50/51) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elekktro@aol.com Subject: Re: Charts (was: Re: (kw) kraftwerk) Date: 16 Dec 1999 18:02:38 EST Klaus Zaepke wrote: > The WOM charts are not representative for the German music market. > The Media Control charts are probably the best German music charts, > and Kraftwerk didn't even enter the Media Control Top 100 yet. You are so right Klaus, but doesn't it sound well: Kraftwerk on place 7? > Place 34 in which charts? That's a good question! In the (media control) german charts of 13th December the Pet Shop Boys are placed 34th with their marvellous gay hymn "New York City Boy". I think the place 34 information is coming from the Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung so this question goes back to you, Klaus ;) Regards, Elekktro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E5ns=20Sj=F6strand?= Subject: Re: Charts (was: Re: (kw) kraftwerk) Date: 17 Dec 1999 00:46:05 +0100 Klaus Zaepke wrote: > The WOM charts are not representative for the German music market. > The Media Control charts are probably the best German music charts, > and Kraftwerk didn't even enter the Media Control Top 100 yet. This is really weird, the re-release of "Tour de France" peaked at no 87 = in the German chart. "Expo2000" has not even entered the top 100 and this is the= first really new material in 13 years from their most famous popband ever. How= many copies has been sold yet, tventy or what? EMI most by now really regret t= hat they wasted money on a MTV commercial... - M=E5ns # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO 2000 available from HMV Date: 16 Dec 1999 11:47:32 GMT woah there boy! I think your crude judgement of the new music is unjustified. perhaps you were expecting them to incorporate some drumnbass into their new sound, I don't know. all I know is that it sound VERY much like kraftwerk - it couldn't possibly be anyone else. Admittedly, the funky four-to-the-floor mix is quite enjoyable, but I won't cuss the other mixes. the last mix is splendid minimalism, and the radio/2000 mix is chilled, reminding me of EC. Obviously everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and my opinion is that I like it, and your's is you don't like it. Fair enough. I hope the album doesn't disapoint you as much as this did. Let's end it there... > Single edit - way too slow and dull > First remix, longer therefor duller > Second Remix, now that's more like it! Why didn't you make this the main > version!! Lost the plot or what!!!!! > Third Remix, dull dull dull dull!!!!!!!!!!!!> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: Re: (kw) 5 x 2000 Date: 16 Dec 1999 08:31:20 GMT I think you may be confused >The 1900's were called the "oughts", oddly enough. People would say >"nineteen-ought-six" for 1906, for example. The 1920's were I dunno. For some reason I think you mean "nineteen-nought-six". I was taught nought was another name for zero. Have I been misled? Is this in the slightest bit relevant? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: m.schmidt@top.east.de Subject: (kw) TV-Themenabend Date: 15 Dec 1999 20:22:00 +0100 Erstellt am: 15.12.99 - ist aber nicht unbedingt der Absendetag.=B7 Hallo Kraftwerk-Fans! Am 25. Januar 2000 bingt Viva 2 folgenden Themenabend: D=FCsseldorf. =20 Impressionen aus der ber=FCchtigten Rheinmetropole. Musik von: Neu!, Kraftwerk, DAF, Fehlfarben, Kreidler, Antonelli Electr., =20 Fuschimuschi u.a. -- Mit elektrischen Gr=FC=DFen,=B7 Marko ----------------------------------------------------- Germankraft die deutsche Kraftwerk-Homepage:www.kraftwerk.mdis.de ----------------------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Re: Charts Date: 17 Dec 1999 06:20:29 +0000 > From: Elekktro@aol.com > > I think the place 34 information is coming from the Hannoversche > Allgemeine Zeitung so this question goes back to you, Klaus ;) Why? Am I responsible for any nonsense just because it is written in an article I mention? ;-) The Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung article didn't specify the charts in which the single is supposed to be No. 34, so this "info" was totally meaningless. > From: M=E5ns Sj=F6strand > > > The Media Control charts are probably the best German music > > charts, and Kraftwerk didn't even enter the Media Control Top 100 > > yet. > > This is really weird, the re-release of "Tour de France" peaked at > no 87 in the German chart. But not after just one week, so the "Tour de France" and "Expo 2000" chart positions are not yet comparable. > 100 and this is the first really new material in 13 years from their > most famous popband ever. Hey, the Beatles are also on EMI! :-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jan Svenungsson Subject: (kw) Flur Date: 17 Dec 1999 03:31:11 -0500 Wolfgang Fluer quoted some examples at his lecture in Duesseldorf = last week. Judging from these examples, it seems they're pretending = that he made up basically everything in his book that isn't backed up = by hard, indubitable facts... ;-) --- Please, Klaus: re-quote these examples! Jan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lemmens Geert Subject: (kw) belgium Date: 17 Dec 1999 01:39:15 -0800 (PST) hi, is there anybody from belgium on this list? if so, can you tell me which store sells the expo 2000 single (i tried a few in Leuven but they all say it won't be available untill february) skylined ===== "Make popular programs good and good programs popular." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) Re: Charts Date: 17 Dec 1999 11:08:47 +0000 > This is really weird, the re-release of "Tour de France" peaked at > no 87 in the German chart. "Expo2000" has not even entered the top > 100 and this is the first really new material in 13 years from their > most famous popband ever. Germany's most famous pop band? I'm sure Boney M would have something to say about that... :-) So how many copies of Expo2000 have you all bought then? I've got three so far! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: richard.poolton@dmgexhib.co.uk Subject: Fwd:(kw) Re: Charts Date: 17 Dec 1999 10:52:13 GMT ____________________Forward Header_____________________ OK Jon, I have to ask, why??? ;-) Rich So how many copies of Expo2000 have you all bought then? I've got three so far! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) Re: EXPO 2000 available from HMV Date: 17 Dec 1999 11:19:32 +0000 > EXPO 2000 is available in the UK now on import from the HMV > website. > > www.hmv.co.uk > > It costs =A37.99 (UKP) plus =A31 delivery. And it only took two da= ys > to arrive! I wouldn't bother with HMV, Tower Europe (http://www.towereurope.com/= ) are selling both the CD and vinyl versions for just =A34.99. First c= lass service too. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred_Harding@idx.com Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 CD Date: 17 Dec 1999 09:03:36 -0500 Gotta agree with all the negative sentiments regarding this one. I'm not partial to remixes in the first place, but I could handle it better if they had a good idea to begin with. Expo 2000 is quite simply the worst thing the boys have ever recorded. The third mix is relatively enjoyable but the others are just basically on "autopilot". Now, perhaps that is the "idea" of it all...but, I'm not really into ideas so much as i am a good song. Expo 2000 is not one. As a side note, is it me, or does the vocal sound like expo TWELVE thousand? No big deal as I really didn't have high expectations for this one. But, on the other hand, you'd think KW would be "custom made" for work like this. Spent half their careers writing non commissioned songs about TEE, Computers, highways and the like, and now that someone asks them to actually write a theme, they trip up. Sad, because after watching the video snippet at Kraftwerk.com, I thought they'd be moving in an interesting direction. Which is not to say I have lost hope, but, they've definately dropped the ball on Expo 2000. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Rare Tour De France 99 CD Single Date: 17 Dec 1999 15:02:52 +0100 Quoted from Music Non Stop Sales: CDS Tour De France 99 EMI 7243 887421 22 (GERMANY) Rare CD Single PROMO in 7" fold out sleeve with writing on left hand side and CD on right. Ex/M =A350.00 DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mm@UDel.Edu (Mike Markowski) Subject: (kw) expo2000 w/hologram cover Date: 17 Dec 1999 10:28:34 -0500 FYI for the completists out there... :-) Mike On Dec 16, 1999, Bill wrote: > Subject: Info from AB-CD > > Kraftwerk .. UPDATE from AB-CD www.ab-cd.com > > NEW RELEASE!!!!!!!! NEW RELEASE!!!!!!!! NEW RELEASE!!!!!!!! > > Expo 2000 (ep) + 3 Tracks $10.97 < IN STOCK NOW > Limited Edition of 5000! > > "Long awaited new material from Kraftwerk - who were commisioned to do > the title track to Expo 2000 in Hanover, Germany. This limited edition > release comes packaged with a special hologram cover. 4 Tracks include: > Expo 2000 radio mix, 2002 and 2001." > > AB-CD has secured 200 copies, when there gone that's it! Get it before > it's gone! > > Easy to order as it's right on the front page of www.ab-cd.com > > Bill, from under the AB-CDome > > http://www.ab-cd.com AB-CD Planetwide Inc. - The Source... > >-- End of excerpt from Bill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elekktro@aol.com Subject: Re: Charts (was: Re: (kw) kraftwerk) Date: 17 Dec 1999 10:54:52 EST M=E5ns Sj=F6strand wrote: > This is really weird, the re-release of "Tour de France" peaked at no 87 i= n=20 the > German chart. "Expo2000" has not even entered the top 100 and this is the=20= =20 > first really new material in 13 years from their most famous popband ever.= =20 How > many copies has been sold yet, tventy or what? EMI most by now really=20= =20 > regret that they wasted money on a MTV commercial... "Abwarten und Tee trinken", it's only one week after the release date... Regards, Elekktro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: Re: (kw) Ltd Edition Single Date: 17 Dec 1999 17:36:53 +0100 >> I've been trying DESPERATELY for the past few days to get my hands on this >> item. I'm in Germany so it should be relatively easy, but no >> Kartstadt/Hertie/Music Corner/WOM stores claim to know it. >> >> Has anybody else had similar problems or are you not quite as mad as me in >> your search for Kraftwerk material? >> >> Regards >> Matthew > > if i'm not completely wrong, the ltd. edition is only on sale at the karstadt > store in hannover. > Jan i have to correct the message above: i AM wrong. two hours ago i saw the limited edition at karstadt hamburg. sorry! Jan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Alby Subject: (kw) New on the list and collector's items for sale Date: 17 Dec 1999 18:52:01 +0100 Hello, first, I want to introduce myself; I have been watching this list for several weeks by now, and I feel, today is the time to post my first message. My name is Tom, I am 27 years old, and I have been a Kraftwerk fan since The Robots (yes, I was 6 years old then :-) My music teacher played the song to us and I could never forget it). I have three collector's items to sell: Kraftwerk Philips 6305 058 (Kraftwerk 1) Kraftwerk Vertigo 6641 077 (Kraftwerk 1 und 2) Ralf & Florian Vertigo 6360 616 UK=A0 Please be aware that I have heard these records; consequently, these are used items. If you want to see the covers, point your browser to http://www.uni-bielefeld.de/~talby/kraftwerk.html Please send your bid to thomas.alby@uni-bielefeld.de Cheers Tom # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 CD Date: 17 Dec 1999 10:47:10 -0800 >Expo 2000 is quite simply the worst thing the boys have ever recorded. Even worse than "Truckstop Gondelero" (aka"Vor Dem Blauen Bock")?? hee hee # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Familie de Haan Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 CD Date: 17 Dec 1999 20:17:34 +0100 >> Expo 2000 is quite simply the worst thing the boys have ever recorded. No it isn't -- Remember when you computer gives an error, it's because: the stack can dip into the heap for just a few cycles and not be caught by the stack sniffer - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Familie de Haan Subject: (kw) Europe Endless (was KW MP3's FTP server) Date: 17 Dec 1999 20:40:35 +0100 I just downloaded "makoto-inque---europe-endless-(including-franz-schubert-and-neon-lights).mp 3" and my God, this is beautiful. I had tears in my eyes (really!). Recommended stuff this. Jeroen -- Remember when you computer gives an error, it's because: the stack can dip into the heap for just a few cycles and not be caught by the stack sniffer - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) Europe Endless (was KW MP3's FTP server) Date: 17 Dec 1999 12:43:28 -0700 (MST) On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Familie de Haan wrote: > I just downloaded > "makoto-inque---europe-endless-(including-franz-schubert-and-neon-lights).mp > 3" and my God, this is beautiful. I had tears in my eyes (really!). > Recommended stuff this. Where can we obtain this miraculous file? -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * In the event of a real .sig, this line would be funny. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "nsw" Subject: (kw) Expo Single Date: 17 Dec 1999 16:10:36 -0500 Hello Are there any Americans on the list who have the Expo 2000 single? If so, where did you get it and how quickly? Reply off-list. Thanks, and sorry if this has already been answered earlier. --Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elekktro@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Ltd Edition Single Date: 17 Dec 1999 17:32:28 EST Jan Reetze wrote: << i have to correct the message above: i AM wrong. two hours ago i saw the limited edition at karstadt hamburg. sorry! Jan >> You lucky one! At karstadt Cologne the limited edition still isn't available :-( And nobody seems to know when it arrives. But in a small magazine (MusicNews) there is an article about the limited edition. According to this article the second CD (audio CD) contains different danceable mixes of the EXPO-Jingle. And in the GROOVE-article (mentioned by Klaus Zaepke) you can read that Kraftwerk also have ordered remixes for the EXPO 2000 Single. So who knows what exactly contains the audio CD (ltd. edition)? When will be the release of a external remix CD Single? Regards, Elekktro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: (kw) Splendid Minimalism Date: 17 Dec 1999 19:35:43 -0700 Matthew Large writes: "Admittedly, the funky four-to-the-floor mix is quite enjoyable, but I won't cuss the other mixes. the last mix is splendid minimalism, and the radio/2000 mix is chilled." Just received the new Enigma "Gravity of Love" CD. He's right...In listening to Enigma's radio mix I find "splendid minimalism" ("O Fortuna" and Enigma trademark samples) and also is "chilling effects." They included some KW'ish LFO/Oscillator sounds in their "Judgement Day Mix". Who else could it be but Kraftwerk and Enigma? I am now listening to EXPO2000 (again!) and agree with other list members..... yes, it could only be Kraftwerk and it could only be Enigma. Remaining true to their "splendid minimalism". Kraftwerk returning to their roots? "Radio Stars" comes to mind. To me, Kraftwerk has always been about "messages". Go figure. We're probably in parallel with the Enigma mailing list. : ) http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/expo2000a.htm Planet der Visionen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: (kw) Splendid Minimalism Date: 17 Dec 1999 19:16:30 -0700 Matthew Large writes: "Admittedly, the funky four-to-the-floor mix is quite enjoyable, but I won't cuss the other mixes. the last mix is splendid minimalism, and the radio/2000 mix is chilled." Just received the new Enigma "Gravity of Love" CD. He's right...Enigma's radio mix is "splendid minimalism ("O Fortuna" and Enigma trademark samples) and also "chilled". They included some KW'ish LFO/Oscillator sounds in their "Judgement Day Mix". Who else could it be but Kraftwerk and Enigma? I am now listening to EXPO2000 and agree with other list members..... yes, it could only be Kraftwerk and it could only be Enigma. Remaining true to their "splendid minimalism". Kraftwerk returning to their roots? http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/expo2000a.htm Planet der Visionen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shanti Traskowski Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 preformance? Date: 18 Dec 1999 02:04:16 -0600 Is Kraftwerk going to play at Expo 2000? I could not find any info on the Expo 2000 schedules page. thank you # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: (kw) EXPO2000 chart position Date: 18 Dec 1999 12:17:17 +0100 Hi ! According to VIVA-TEXT "EXPO2000" is no 35 in Germany now. "ascertained by media controll" Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Markus Formann" Subject: (kw) New video on kraftwerk.de Date: 18 Dec 1999 13:23:41 +0100 Hi! Check out the new video on kraftwerk.de (in fact it is new for me)! markus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: (kw) Sensorama: Echtzeit Date: 18 Dec 1999 15:45:30 +0100 Hello ! If there is somebody who knows the track "Echtzeit" by Sensorama, does he agree, that the melodie sounds striking similar to the Intro of "EXPO2000"? Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik J. Eid" Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #366 Date: 17 Dec 1999 23:11:17 -0500 At 08:23 PM 12/16/99 -0700, "lenny g" wrote: >Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:14:47 +0000 >From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> >Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk > >did anyone notice that UPN 50 from Detroit uses a TEE cover in it's news ads. I hadn't noticed. Are you referring to "cover" as in the album cover or "cover" as in different musicians playing the song? Also, did you notice that WDRQ (93.1 FM) used snippets of "Music Non Stop" during some of its little transition/promotion bits? This was for about two weeks in November, but they've stopped doing it, as far as I know. . . \_ +\_ + o_-/ . O . \-_o -=/- . . . . \=// . ---------\_______ ||O ___.______ /* Erik Eid */ \____||L/\_____/ /* eeid@wwnet.net */_______________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 CD Date: 17 Dec 1999 15:40:25 GMT thousand in german sounds like 'tausand' and maybe it's even spelt like that. I still can't see why people complain about the new song/s. I'm not sure what people were expecting. perhaps amazing jiggery-pokery with loads of twiddling knobs/acid sounds and gabba kiks? It seems people have lost the idea of concept music and lush textural vibes. I listen to the single, and I love the stuttered synth bass rumbling away, I love the drum production, the voices give me shivers on my neck, and the simple string melody reminds me of.. well.. simple things. aside from that, has anybody played guitar or keyboard along to it? as usual, they're neglect to use true pivot chords and just slide from one key to the next astounds me. I always end up thinking 'why didn't I think of that? it's so obvious!' and then I wish I had been born florian's brother... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: RE: (kw) Re: Charts Date: 17 Dec 1999 11:10:23 -0000 On Friday, December 17, 1999 11:09 AM, Jon Alsbury [SMTP:j.alsbury@unl.ac.uk] wrote: > > Germany's most famous pop band? I'm sure Boney M would have something > to say about that... :-) hehehehe, what about Nena? ;-P Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Finarvas Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk in =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tyl=F6hus?= Date: 17 Dec 1999 22:25:34 +0100 In Halmstad, Sweden there is a hotel called Tyl=F6hus. It is owned by Per Gessle (Roxette=3D). In one place there are four photos of.. well guess who :-) I put them up at http://home.swipnet.se/finarvas/musik/kraftwerk.html /Finarvas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Finarvas Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk in =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tyl=F6hus?= Date: 17 Dec 1999 22:25:34 +0100 In Halmstad, Sweden there is a hotel called Tyl=F6hus. It is owned by Per Gessle (Roxette=3D). In one place there are four photos of.. well guess who :-) I put them up at http://home.swipnet.se/finarvas/musik/kraftwerk.html /Finarvas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Charts Date: 18 Dec 1999 16:03:52 -0800 On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 11:10:23 -0000 Julian Seifert writes: > > On Friday, December 17, 1999 11:09 AM, Jon Alsbury > [SMTP:j.alsbury@unl.ac.uk] wrote: > > > > Germany's most famous pop band? I'm sure Boney M would have > something > > to say about that... :-) > > hehehehe, what about Nena? ;-P > > Jules what could she care? she is austrian! tom w np: CAN - TAGO MAGO (deutschland uber alles!) ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elekktro@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Charts Date: 18 Dec 1999 16:48:27 EST tom w wrote: > Germany's most famous pop band? I'm sure Boney M would have > > something > > > to say about that... :-) > > > > hehehehe, what about Nena? ;-P > > > > Jules > > what could she care? she is austrian! As far as I know Nena comes from Hagen which is a rather small city in Germany. Regards, Elekktro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christian Reupke Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Charts Date: 18 Dec 1999 22:57:28 +0100 At 16:48 18-12-99 -0500, Elekktro@aol.com wrote: >As far as I know Nena comes from Hagen which is a rather small city in >Germany. I thought it was here last name? /Christian -- Christian Reupke christian@reupke.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Little Bugg Subject: (kw) Expo2000 Radio Edit Date: 16 Dec 1999 12:11:22 +0000 > Second Remix, now that's more like it! Why didn't you make this the main > version!! Lost the plot or what!!!!! The version of Expo2000 that Mark & Lard are currently playing as their "single of the week" (UK BBC Radio 1, 2-4pm) indeed appears to be a 3'40"-ish version of the "funky" 2002 mix. Maybe this will be the version released as the radio edit in the UK? STAGGMAN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jan Svenungsson Subject: (kw) chartposition Date: 18 Dec 1999 19:17:06 -0500 In WOM recordstore in Berlin today I saw a poster with the top 50 German singles chart (dated December 20). Expo 2000 is new at number 35. Jan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: C Twomey Subject: (kw) new Kraftwerk @ 1Groove.com Sun 6-9 EST Date: 18 Dec 1999 22:23:59 -0400 Klublife New Music Show Sunday night 6 - 9 EST http://www.1Groove.com Streaming real audio broadcast featuring Kraftwerk's new single "Expo2000"! plus an Xmas set with Skylab, Boards Of Canada aka Hell Interface, V/VM, Residents & more preview of Dead Voices On Air - Not Breathing live performance and more cheers, CT http://interlog.com/~costan/MNN.html Music News Network interview/review site http://1groovE.com Klublife magazine show (live Sundays 6-9pm EST & posted as streaming RA) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Flur Date: 19 Dec 1999 17:09:30 +0000 > Wolfgang Fluer quoted some examples at his lecture in Duesseldorf > last week. Judging from these examples, it seems they're pretending > that he made up basically everything in his book that isn't backed up > by hard, indubitable facts... ;-) > > --- Please, Klaus: re-quote these examples! Okay, quoted from memory: a) They say that he made up the story of their first meeting. They claim that they have never visited him at his workroom, and that they have never attended a concert of his former band "Spirits of Sound". b) They say that Wolfgang Fluer did not participate in inventing and developing Kraftwerk's electronic drumpad, the light-beam percussion instrument and the percussion cage. c) They say that the percussion on "Metal on Metal" was not his idea, in fact they claim that he didn't even participate in the recordings for the track. d) Similarily, they claim that the drums on "Autobahn" weren't actually played by him. e) They say that his telephone call with Ralf Huetter, where Huetter denied to know him ("Wolfgang who? I don't know a Wolfgang.") never took place. f) They claim that they have never asked him to return, and that they've never offered him any money for rejoining them. g) They say that his descriptions of Kraftwerk's orgies were all untrue and just a result of his "sexual fantasies". Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Ltd Edition Single Date: 19 Dec 1999 17:09:30 +0000 > So who knows what exactly contains the audio CD (ltd. edition)? The content is the same as on the standard release. Only the 2002 Mix is (slightly) different to the version on the standard single. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Charts Date: 19 Dec 1999 11:14:35 +0100 On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 16:48:27 EST, Elekktro@aol.com wrote: > >tom w wrote: > >> Germany's most famous pop band? I'm sure Boney M would have >> > something >> > > to say about that... :-) >> > >> > hehehehe, what about Nena? ;-P and Alphaville? and Scorpion? etc... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "miffo man" Subject: (kw) Info about the song "Zehn kleine negerlein" Date: 19 Dec 1999 07:12:10 PST Hi All! The expo 2000 is purely great! I love it! Just bought the CD Toccata Electronica and found a song called "zehn kleine negerlein" (A Christie?) Is this really a KW song? >From which record is this taken from in this case? U can easilly her the vinyl sparkle... Best Regards! Miffo:man ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) Info about the song "Zehn kleine negerlein" Date: 19 Dec 1999 19:50:13 +0100 miffo man wrote: > Just bought the CD Toccata Electronica and found a song called "zehn kleine > negerlein" (A Christie?) Is this really a KW song? No. It's from a German techno-combo called "Time To Time". They just used a sample from "Home Computer" for this track. Gubbolof # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Casey Jones" Subject: (kw) Yamo, Elektric Music, Elektroids downloads Date: 19 Dec 1999 12:15:47 -0800 I have not heard any of these bands (Yamo, Elektric Music, Elektroids) and would like to know if anyone knows where I can find some tracks in mp3 format, preferably, or real audio or something. Thanks, - casey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elekktro@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Info about the song "Zehn kleine negerlein" Date: 19 Dec 1999 16:21:24 EST miffo_man@hotmail.com wrote: > Just bought the CD Toccata Electronica and found a song called "zehn kleine > negerlein" (A Christie?) Is this really a KW song? What a stupid question! This "song" is too dull and not up to the standard of Kraftwerk to be a KW song! Elekktro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shilcock" Subject: (kw) Neon Light Mix Date: 19 Dec 1999 21:49:13 -0800 Hi I'm a recent member to this list and thought I should introduce myself. I'm John Shilcock from the UK. I've been a Kraftwerk Fan since 1978 after the release of a particular LP. I've seen them several times and think their 1981 gigs were the best - Not nearly 100% automatic as it appears now. I have a large collection of Kraftwerk items (600+) How many of you out there have heard the version of Neon Lights that appears on the white label Canadian issue? I think it is a pre-issue version as it is distinctly different from what was finally released. Does anyone know the history of this item? Any way that's my brief intro over John PS ... (It was worth the wait was it not?) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elekktro@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Neon Light Mix Date: 19 Dec 1999 17:00:26 EST John Shilcock wrote: > PS ... (It was worth the wait was it not?) Yes, it was worth waiting for! I have never heard about this pre-issue version of Neon Lights, it sounds interesting. Regards, Elekktro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J.Garcia" Subject: (kw) records/posters for trade Date: 19 Dec 1999 23:55:42 +0100 If anyone is interested in some kw vinyl / poster, please have a look at: http://personal5.iddeo.es/ret007en/personal/kwtrade.htm Swaps for other kw stuff are very welcome. Jose Garcia jgc@retemail.es # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "miffo man" Subject: Re: (kw) Info about the song "Zehn kleine negerlein" Date: 19 Dec 1999 14:10:29 PST >What a stupid question! This "song" is too dull and not up to the standard >of >Kraftwerk to be a KW song! I agree! That's why I,m asking! The expo 2000 is much better than the trax recorded at the tribal gathering.......they sounded unfinished! I,ve been of the list for a while, any interesting news about a new album? /Miffo_man ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Fw: (kw) Info about the song "Zehn kleine negerlein" Date: 19 Dec 1999 21:34:22 -0500 >miffo man wrote: > >> Just bought the CD Toccata Electronica and found a song called "zehn kleine >> negerlein" (A Christie?) Is this really a KW song? > >No. It's from a German techno-combo called "Time To Time". They just >used a sample from "Home Computer" for this track. Any chance that someone could make (or might already have) a .MP3 of this? It has been discussed previously on the list, and I'm curious about it... Huggy Bear Warren (Detroit) Michigan, USA Visit my FTP site @ ftp://24.7.251.51 for a few KW songs and a bunch of other unusual stuff... The unusual - as usual. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2K in Canada? Date: 20 Dec 1999 01:02:02 -0700 (MST) On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Bruce Lloyd wrote: > Has anyone seen the single yet in Canada? HMV at 333 Yonge St. in Toronto > stared at me inexplicably when I asked about it. Nothing here. I just visited all the major record stores in Calgary while Christmas shopping, and I saw nothing but the usual Mix, MM and CW with an occasional RA. -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * In the event of a real .sig, this line would be funny. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: Re: (kw) Ltd Edition Single Date: 20 Dec 1999 19:57:39 +1100 Hi, > The content is the same as on the standard release. > Only the 2002 Mix is (slightly) different to the version on > the standard single. Can someone please upload the mp3 of this? Thanks! Vladimir # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) Re: Charts Date: 20 Dec 1999 09:36:47 +0000 Have you heard of Ebay? ;-) > OK Jon, I have to ask, why??? ;-) > >> So how many copies of Expo2000 have you all bought then? I've got >> three so far! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) Robot-miniatures Date: 20 Dec 1999 10:49:02 +0100 I've got a question to my favorite mailinglist: According to a friend of mine it exists mini-models of the MIX-robots=2E Has anybody heard or seen anything about this? Regards / Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: Fw: (kw) Info about the song "Zehn kleine negerlein" Date: 20 Dec 1999 11:22:24 +0100 On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:34:22 -0500, Huggy Bear wrote: > >Any chance that someone could make (or might already have) a .MP3 of this? >It has been discussed previously on the list, and I'm curious about it... > Yes, It's on my FTP server: kraftwerk.dynip.com , at least when the good CDROM is on the drive which is currently the case :-) in /more Kraftwerk / mix good luck to login to the server anyway :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Sundkvist" Subject: (kw) Pocket Calculator Date: 20 Dec 1999 13:36:04 CET Anybody out there who knows where I get my hands on the french version of PC (Mini Calcalateur). Format: LP, CD or Mp3 Thanx! /Erik ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Little Bugg Subject: (kw) OT: Message for Chris Raistrick Date: 20 Dec 1999 12:48:00 +0000 Sorry about being off topic everybody, but Chris - if you're out there - please contact me on this address. STAGGMAN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Mills Subject: (kw) EXPO 2000 single Date: 20 Dec 1999 16:34:08 -0000 ANYONE STILL LOOKING FOR THE SINGLE IN SCOTLAND OR SHEFFIELD......FOPP RECORDS ARE STOCKING IT FOR A FIVER (WORTH IT FOR THE CD CASE ALONE I'D SAY). I THINK THE SINGLE IS GREAT - BETTER THAN THE 3 NEW NOS REVEALED ON THE 97/98 TOUR. THANKS TO KLAUS FOR POSTING THE MARK RADCLIFFE SKIT FROM RADIO 1 - VERY FUNNY INDEED. HAPPY XMAS TO ALL WERKERS EVERYWHERE. Regards Paul Mills paulm@intercell.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 ---- whats the opinion? Date: 20 Dec 1999 17:42:07 +0000 Listening to this for the second time, it seems a bit derivative (the opening chords sound like Orbital to me), and overall a bit lethargic. However, if you regard it less as a single and more a four song 'tone poem' dealing in variations on a musical theme it's great. The vocoder stuff sounds both like Stepehen Hawking (i.e. dated) and unoriginal - most of the voices sound identical to 1986's Technopop track. It sounds as if Kling Klang have bought bugger all since 1986. Overall mixes 1+2 are a bit lethargic, and hence, unexciting. They'd make excellent codas to proper albums but on their own just sound flimsy. Mix 3 is the most energetic and familiar to the old Kraftwerk sound - it actually sounds almost danceworthy. The final mix, just an ambient retread of the original Expo 2000, isn't much more than an unexciting reprise. That said, Expo 2000 - for all it's bizarrely topical 2000-themed approach (something KW have never previously alluded to) - shows that when they can be bothered Kraftwerk have still got the old spark and really ought to stop worrying what people will think of them and make another album. -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: barnarda@talk21.com Subject: (kw) Expo2000 12" single Date: 20 Dec 1999 20:28:52 GMT HMV=20London=20Oxford=20Street=20have=20it=20in=20stock=20for=20=A36.99=20(Import). David -------------------- talk21=20your=20FREE=20portable=20and=20private=20address=20on=20the=20net=20at=20http://www.talk21.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: (kw) Causes for ecstacies Date: 20 Dec 1999 22:02:41 +0100 That's the headline in todays issue of Aftonbladet, a major Swedish evening newspaper. Four records are listed, among them Expo 2000. /Joakim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ALR" Subject: (kw) Expo2000 12" single Date: 21 Dec 1999 08:16:56 +1100 Have you seen all the product names on the back of the 12" Doepfer, Steinberg, Kawai, TC Electronic, Quasimidi etc... Kraftwerk seem to being doing more product endorsements than the Olympics.... Adam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Indstrlman@aol.com Subject: (kw) Expo2000 avail in US Date: 20 Dec 1999 23:19:50 EST Below is an email that I received from isolation tank. I havn't actually checked to see if their site is updated to buy it but I know that you can e-mail to get it! and not that bad of a price...but from everyone thinks about it..11.99 might be too much to pay. Indstrlman << We do have the new Kraftwerk cd in stock, the price is $11.99. Sincerely, Isotank>> www.isotank.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo2000 avail in US Date: 20 Dec 1999 21:31:13 -0700 Also available from Oaklawn Records, Dallas, Texas. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tadream" Subject: (kw) deutchewelle Date: 21 Dec 1999 08:38:55 +0100 hello and i hope that somebody will shed some light on this ... is it true that Schneider and Hutter made some recordings on the occassion of the DeutcheWelle radio anniversary some time in early 90-ies? There reportedly exist video clips with these songs but AFAIK no recordings have ever been released officially on CD. Does anyone have any info on this (Klaus Zaepke) ? tadream email: tadream@free.poltronic.net home page: http://www.adamszymanek.cjb.net icq: 35224126 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elekktro@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Pocket Calculator Date: 21 Dec 1999 07:23:51 EST Erik Sundkvist wrote: > Anybody out there who knows where I get my hands on the french version of > PC > (Mini Calcalateur). Format: LP, CD or Mp3 The bootleg CD "KRAFTWERK: WERKE" Westwood One-Rarities On Compact Disc Vol. 55 contains the 1981 French 12" version of PC (Mini Calculateur). Regards, Elekktro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: christoph_marquardt@hp.com Subject: RE: (kw) Ltd Edition Single - available ONLINE Date: 21 Dec 1999 14:10:39 +0100 I've just seen the Ltd. Edition Single online at Karstadt's web: http://www.my-world.de/ You can order online (they even accept invoice payment) although I guess they only deliver to Germany and Austria... Regards, Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Pocket Calculator Date: 21 Dec 1999 14:47:47 +0100 It's also available on my FTP kraftwerk.dynip.com Look in the Dynamo-Deutschland/disc2 folder or I think in the /various Rarities folder. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) The 80 best song of the century Date: 21 Dec 1999 15:15:10 +0100 On M80 Radio (from Spain), the musician and announcer Julian Ruiz has selected the 80 best songs of the century and Das Modell has been number 57. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) Expo2000 avail in US Date: 21 Dec 1999 08:21:15 -0700 I got it from the same store I bought TdF: Rockaway Records in Mesa, Arizona for $10.99 I must say that the more I listen to the three new songs and this single, the more I like 808 State. These songs have a "not yet finished" and "insipid" taste that bothers me somewhat. The absence of Karl and Wolfgang is every time more noticeable; they were the sweet and sour (or should I say, the Freon and the Oil?) of the Man Machine. Anyway, besides the bitching, I consider that my money was very well spent; the package is awesome and the 2002 mix is very cute. Enrique "No... si, si quieres; No... si, si quieres; Por que? No. Quizas; Por que? No. A lo mejorrrr" np: Fatboy Slim "You've Come a Long Way, Baby" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Evans Subject: Re: (kw) Expo2000 avail in US Date: 21 Dec 1999 10:28:30 -0500 (EST) Enrique Correa wrote: > > The absence of Karl and Wolfgang > is every time more noticeable; Especially Karl, I'd say. He seems to be the one who really understood percussion, making it a focal point of the stuff that he worked on. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: (kw) No Karl or Wolfgang Date: 21 Dec 1999 16:02:19 GMT interesting point. neither karl or wolfgang have had their mitts on this track, david maybe right when says there's something missing. karl WAS the percussion man. saying that though, I don't think it's incomplete. I think it harks back to the days when they manually played everything. think about it - there are four parts to expo2000 drums stuttered bass sound vocals string melody and there are four members, this means they are watching one thing each! that's the way a band should be - I mean, you never saw ringo play drums and bass at the same time, did you? their theory of having an allocated section of the sound works perfectly. other people (orbital, chem bro's) have two guys controlling thousands of samples, bass lines, drums beats/fills, and effects all at the same time. because of this their sound loses interest for me, esp the chem bro's. god they bore me. maybe two tracks off the new album have I listened to more than twice, the rest can all die... am I too harsh? make your own judgement. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Young Subject: (kw) Nena/Nina nonsense Date: 21 Dec 1999 10:52:18 -0800 (PST) Sorry for the off-topic nature of this, but inaccuracies must be addressed, so let's please not starting mistaking Nena, bad German and as far as I know German-born singer of "99 Luftballons" (no, "Luft" does not mean "red," it means "air"--the "red" was just a filler syllable in the English translation), with Nina Hagen, thoroughly uninteresting formerly East German punk rocker (for whom I once exchanged foreign currency at a previous job btw). As for either of these or the other groups mentioned being Germany's #1 pop act, I seriously doubt it and could name five others or so, but this is not the time and place. Jeff __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Karl Bartos interview tomorrow on Radio Eins Date: 21 Dec 1999 21:56:38 +0000 From the KLEM Newsletter: > Olaf Zimmermann van Radio Eins uit Berlijn stuurde ons de volgende info: > > "Radio EINS ist seit einiger Zeit 24 h- Real Audio im Internet zu hoeren > ueber www.radioeins.de/musik/ . Elektrobeats gibt es auf: > www.radioeins.de/sendungen/elektro_beats. > > Am 22.12 laufen einige aktuelle Kurzinterviews, u.a. mit Tangerine Dream, > Karl Bartos, Mind Flux, Thomas Fehlmann (u.a. The Orb) (Zeit zw. 23.00 und > 1.00 Uhr). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: RE: (kw) Nena/Nina nonsense Date: 22 Dec 1999 09:25:41 -0000 > As for either of these or the other groups > mentioned being Germany's #1 pop act, I seriously > doubt it and could name five others or so, but this is > not the time and place. Oh Cripes, here we go again, maybe we should revert back to the old list rule (see archives 1997) of marking posts containing sarcasm or wit with [uk]. some folks just can't see the wood for the trees....... Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward_Mordaunt@haygroup.com Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 airplay Date: 22 Dec 1999 11:49:13 +0000 London's "alternative" radio station XFM played Expo 2000 (2002 funky mix) last night, the DJ said it was "excellent"...... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marcello Di Sante" Subject: (kw) Re:No Karl Or Wolfgang (Would you mind updating yourself ?!!!!) Date: 22 Dec 1999 14:48:19 +0100 Matthew wrote: ...other people (orbital, chem bro's) have two guys controlling thousands of samples, bass lines, drums beats/fills, and effects all at the same time. because of this their sound loses interest for me, esp the chem bro's. god they bore me. maybe two tracks off the new album have I listened to more than twice, the rest can all die... Well, everyone's got his own tastes and opinions but, after having read most of the messages of this list (and i'd like to include the ERASURE & DM Lists, etc.) my impression is that many <> fallen in love with electro/music of '80s (and '70s, speaking of KW, of course !!!) don't even try to give a chance to all the new techno/bands that made electronic music much more popular now than in the past !!!! As i already told many times, KW will always have a special place in my heart; they are the starting point of everything i love in modern <> (?!!!) music but all you should notice that synthetic and electronic sounds are now very popular thanks to Underworld, Chemical Brothers, Prodigy, and other artists like Bjork and Everything but the Girl who mixed pop songs and drum n' bass/jungle rhythms. Their attitude on stage are much different from KW live style and then ??? They are <>, anyway !!!! Throw off preconceived ideas and love the past looking at the present time !!!! Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year to Everyone MArcello # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric Oehler" Subject: (kw) An homage Date: 22 Dec 1999 08:25:59 -0600 In my excitement over the release of new KW stuff, I went into my studio and knocked out a track as a bit of an homage. It's roughly in the style of MenschMaschine-era kw, and is called "From Dusseldorf, With Love." If ya wanna hear it, it's at www.mp3.com/ensku/ _________________________________________________________________ Eric Oehler www.kiwi-media.com wonko@nulldevice.com www.nulldevice.com Official pace car for the apocalypse # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Khris Raistrick Subject: (kw) ralf, florian, nokia Date: 22 Dec 1999 17:36:45 -0000 1]millennial best wishes to all werkers 2]got a new nokia 5110.my old ericsson played the model via instructions from a web site someone kindly posted here.is there an equivalent for nokia please? khris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 Date: 22 Dec 1999 20:29:57 -0000 I've kept quiet for too long. The new single is a pristine piece of KW. Each play reveals new details and psycho acoustic effects. I love the way they open up a reverb on a hi hat sound as it starts to decay, but not on every beat etc. The last track is my favourite-it's almost an ambient piece and has the same sort of feel (but not structure of course) as Morton Subotnick's Silver Apples Like the mix I'll still be playing it in years to come. Happy Christmas to you all and peace for the new year. Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vincent Smits" Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 Date: 22 Dec 1999 09:34:35 PST What's the cheapest place in the centre of London where I can buy the maxi-cd? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dave atari Subject: (kw) Re: Expo 2000 single at HMV Toronto Date: 22 Dec 1999 15:04:44 -0800 (PST) hello all: i received my package today from hotstuff sweden...the expo 2000 12" and cd single... then i went downtown before work, and the hmv had about 20 of them on the shelf!!! this is after i made repeated attempts to order it and was met with a blank stare every time...and they said they wouldn't be getting it because it wasn't "popular" enough...i should have know better after i ordered the TDF single from germany, and a few weeks later, a ton of them showed up on the shelves... oh well, at least having the 12" single is a good score... dave oh well, at least the 12" single is a good score... dave __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) EXPO2000 critics Date: 23 Dec 1999 12:59:42 +0100 O=2EK=2E, It's time to pay my 2 cents (=F6ren) to the critics of the EXPO 2= 000=20= jingle, remember - jingle=2E Some of the people of this list seem to have a lot negative to say about this=20= long awaited new material, and that of course is OK, we all have different=20= taste, but I must say, in my opinion in the 13 years of no new KW material=20= nothing better than this has been done - and a lot of people have tried (in=20= my opinion Orbital and Tanzmusik has come closest ) to sound like Kraftwerk=20= or tried to be the new KW=2E I know that there are a lot of listmembers who feel the same as I do, and I=20= want to see some more mail from you who like the new single as much as I do=20= and some comments on this=2E Anyway, I agree with Paul that the last mix on the CD is outstanding in its=20= cold, mysterious, minimalistic style and so perfectionistic mixed, and I must=20= say: Only KW can do this kind of small small changes of sound in a song that=20= otherwise only woud have been monotonous=2E The other favourite is the funky version, wich is a bit fun, because here one=20= can hear influences from, not only old KW- songs like Pocket calculator and=20= Music non stop but also one sound that sounds a lot like "Yellow magic=20= orchestra" did in the eighties=2E I think that the boys were more or less forced by the EXPO-people (and the=20= german people/government?) to make this full - length version of the jingle,=20= and if I were them I would do the same - take some old ideas and mix it=20= together, I wouldn't waste any precious new ideas on it=2E And if we ever get lucky enough to put a new KW-album in the CD-slot, I think=20= it will sound a lot different than this single - but who knows? Regards / Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Watkins, Jr." Subject: (kw) Rarities Date: 23 Dec 1999 08:57:53 -0500 Hello everyone, I'm new to the list and I was wondering if anyone knows where I can get CD/MP3 of The Luton '97 Tribal Gathering or the Karlsruhe 18.10.97 Concert. I have "Man Machine Recreated" and "Neue Version" in MP3 if anyone wants to trade, along with all the studio stuff (Tone Float through EXPO 2000). I have just recently (last 2 years) discovered KW, and I am sorry I missed out on them for so long! I have not had the good fortune of seeing them live, so these MP3s would be very appreciated. Thanks! **************************************************************************** ********** "I'm not interested in the future. I'm interested in the future of the future." --Robert Doniger # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) E2KMP3 Date: 23 Dec 1999 13:54:25 +0100 Expo 2000 in MP3: http://www.TV-99-AD.com/Kraftwerk_Expo2000.mp3 DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: frankm@voicenet.com Subject: (kw) ABCD Date: 23 Dec 1999 09:29:08 US/Eastern Just wanted to let you know that I ordered Expo2000 from AB-CD last Friday, and had it on Monday. Four days in the peak of Christmas season is not bad at all! They're at www.ab-cd.com for those still looking for the EP. For what it's worth, I think I too prefer the final, ambient mix, although I really do enjoy the entire disc. No, it's not forceful, but it does have it's own intriguing feel... Regards, Frank Moriarty This message was sent using Voicenet WebMail. http://www.voicenet.com/webmail/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: barnarda@talk21.com Subject: (kw) Expo2000 Date: 23 Dec 1999 15:34:05 GMT Anyone know if the Expo2000 double CD set is available in the UK anywhere? Its a limited edition of 4,000 German release only at 100DM each. More info at:- http://www.expo2000.de/englisch/home_40.html It can be bought at http://www.myworld.de but the site is all German. David -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: barnarda@talk21.com Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk EMI web page Date: 23 Dec 1999 15:45:42 GMT Loads of messages on Kraftwerk on EMI's web page at http://www.emimusic.de/ Search for Kraftwerk or select on the A-Z, then click on link "Gaestebuch" on the Expo2000 page. David -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kenneth Wang Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO2000 critics Date: 23 Dec 1999 08:20:06 -0800 (PST) A DJ here in Los Angeles (Jason Bentley, KCRW) played a vinyl version of "Expo2000" at 45 rpm rather than its intended 33 1/3 rpm. He actually thought there was an error on the label regarding the speed! I found this hard to believe and was disappointed in the fact that he could not accept a slower-tempoed, yet very exquisite, new Kraftwerk piece. Ken. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADivakaran@aol.com Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #368 Date: 23 Dec 1999 09:43:06 EST In a message dated 12/22/99 8:46:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: > That said, Expo 2000 - for all it's bizarrely topical 2000-themed > approach (something KW have never previously alluded to) - shows that > when they can be bothered Kraftwerk have still got the old spark and > really ought to stop worrying what people will think of them and make > another album. looking at the response this single has been getting, i'd say they have major cause for worry! almost every KW album (except for "the mix") has represented a paradigm shift. this single - paradoxically, for something that has come after KW's longest period of silence -sounds like it came straight from one of the downtempo parts of "the mix", which people said was dated when _it_ came out almost 10 yrs ago! what bothers me a little is that even if one leaves out the obvious things, like an insipid melody and uninteresting beat, the subtleties that KW have been known for in the past - interesting samples (like the phone dialing in the "telephone call") and most of all awesome production are missing. say what you will about "electric cafe", but the album was oozing with interesting uses of FX/reverb/treatments and showed an attention to detail that showed the band really savoring its minimalism (maybe this was more kevorkian's work than KW's?). the new stuff sounds flat in comparison. for a band that prides itself on being up with new tech, the production is very disappointing. everything sounds a little simplistically MIDI-based. in contrast, i was playing some of the tracks by british DJ sasha from the playstation "wipeout 3" game on my headphones, and was constantly in awe at the consistently inventive sound design. "superstar sasha" can be rather maximalist compared to KW but the boys could still learn a thing or two from people like him. at every turn there's a fascinating juxtaposition of abrasive and beautiful, flat and reverbed, and everything immaculately paced and swimming in a 3D stereo field that's quite incredible - all qualities that lend themselves very well to KW-style minimalism (and, one could argue, are NEEDED to make it viable.) ashok # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADivakaran@aol.com Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #368 Date: 23 Dec 1999 09:56:07 EST In a message dated 12/22/99 8:46:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: > interesting point. > > neither karl or wolfgang have had their mitts on this track, david maybe > right when says there's something missing. karl WAS the percussion man. > saying that though, I don't think it's incomplete. I think it harks back to > the days when they manually played everything. think about it - there are > four parts to expo2000 > drums > stuttered bass sound > vocals > string melody > and there are four members, this means they are watching one thing each! > that's the way a band should be - I mean, you never saw ringo play drums and > > bass at the same time, did you? this is silly. you are argiung that KW conform to the acoustic rock'n'roll band model, which they have spent all their lives trying to get away from. can anyone really be under the illusion that KW actually "play" everything live when they do a concert, for example? if not, why should it matter whether their music is physically playable by 4 people or not? over-simplicity in electronic music is the kiss of death. you either have to be SO ultra-minimal (e.g. pan sonic) that you're almost making a statement more than making music. KW can't do this as their fan base, all said and done, is still more traditional than not, and EMI prob wouldn't accept such an album anyway. now - more than ever - they have to fully realize the possibilities offered by today's equipment (both because these are immense, and because everyone else is doing it too!) and marry it to a unique vision. neither of which they appear to have done with expo. ashok # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADivakaran@aol.com Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #368 Date: 23 Dec 1999 09:46:07 EST In a message dated 12/22/99 8:46:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: > Have you seen all the product names on the back of the 12" > > Doepfer, Steinberg, Kawai, TC Electronic, Quasimidi etc... > > Kraftwerk seem to being doing more product endorsements than the > Olympics.... KW are believed to have written product demos for quasimidi. so if you have any Q gear, dig it out and replay the demos. who knows, you might have a bit of KW exclusivity on your hands. then burn it to CDR and hop over to ebay :-) i believe that KW also used the amazing kawai k5000 synth on their last tour. nice to see it's still with them! ashok # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kenneth Wang Subject: Re: (kw) ABCD Date: 23 Dec 1999 08:23:48 -0800 (PST) --- frankm@voicenet.com wrote: > > Just wanted to let you know that I ordered Expo2000 > from AB-CD last Friday, and had it on > Monday. Four days in the peak of Christmas season is > not bad at all! They're at > www.ab-cd.com for those still looking for the EP. Just a question: is the "special, limited-edition hologram cover version" available from AB-CD anything different from what one might get from any other source? They seemed to imply so, but it is rather ambiguous. Ken. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: (kw) "two thousand" in Russian Date: 23 Dec 1999 18:36:54 +0100 Hello ! A question to the Russian list members: What is the correct pronounciation of "two thousand" in Russian, please? Spasiba ! (I hope this is correct ;-) Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: (kw) German "The Mix" missprint ? Date: 23 Dec 1999 18:42:07 +0100 Hello ! I have "THE MIX" on CD. In fact, it's the German version. The lyrics and the titles on the backside of the sleeve are in German. But the titles on the labelprint are in English, printed inverted: white letters on black background. Has anybody informations about if this is a rare item perhaps ? Thanks in advance Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eugene Zaikonnikov" Subject: Re: (kw) "two thousand" in Russian Date: 23 Dec 1999 19:52:54 +0200 > What is the correct pronounciation of "two thousand" in Russian, please? > Dve tysjachi It is spelled correctly in Expo2000 jingle, if you're about it :) Cheers, Eugene. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) "two thousand" in Russian Date: 23 Dec 1999 13:07:05 -0700 TWO THOUSAND in russian is D'VYE TYSIACHEE lenny g Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) wrote: > >Hello ! > >A question to the Russian list members: > >What is the correct pronounciation of "two thousand" in Russian, please? > >Spasiba ! (I hope this is correct ;-) > >Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OGO Yoichiro Subject: Re: (kw) "two thousand" in Russian Date: 24 Dec 1999 02:54:27 +0900 Hi! At 6:36 PM +0100 99.12.23, Wess wrote: > Hello ! > > A question to the Russian list members: I'm not Russian, but Japanese :) > What is the correct pronounciation of "two thousand" in Russian, please? dve tysjaci like "dvee twishat'i" Regards, ogo yoichiro ----- mykhogo@venus.dti.ne.jp http://www.geocities.co.jp/HeartLand/8640 icq:7690564=vanda Key fingerprint = 9924 3446 ABC3 9F66 361B 2615 00C7 D39E D9AE 37F7 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dirk Gruetzmann Subject: (kw) Expo Jingles Date: 23 Dec 1999 21:31:02 +0100 (MET) > Hi, > > were can I get all MP3 files of the EXPO 2000 jingles? > > Is it really true that a new album is coming out in January 2000?? > > > > Greetings > > Dirk Grutzmann > > -- > Temps Perdu? > Buergerstr. 18 > D-40219 Duesseldorf > Germany > Fax: +49-211-3983467 > > Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net > > -- Temps Perdu? Buergerstr. 18 D-40219 Duesseldorf Germany Fax: +49-211-3983467 Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mm@UDel.Edu (Mike Markowski) Subject: (kw) AB-CD's Expo 2000 single Date: 23 Dec 1999 21:59:19 -0500 Hi all, You might remember a few days ago I forwarded a note from ab-cd.com, who said they were selling a special edition of the Expo 2000 single with a hologram cover. Well, AB-CD is either confused about what they're selling, or they've stretched the truth a bit. The cover is not a hologram. It's the same diffraction grating-like cover that is advertised everywhere else. On the plus side, US $11 for the disc is not too bad and AB-CD's service is as good as ever. But as far as I can tell, it's the same single that you can get everywhere else. (Please correct me if I'm wrong though!) Merry Christmas! Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) AB-CD's Expo 2000 single Date: 23 Dec 1999 19:41:55 -0800 Damned... I guess I'll be finding out real soon - like today or possbily tomorrow. A good price all in all though. Oh, and if those bitches at Rasputin give me any more flack about asking for the single, and it magically arrives for sale by tomorrow I'm going to fuck up the Britney shit and bring in my own price gun. Ah, hell I'll do it anyway, 'tis the season. Merry x-mas! -Nihil, Nihil, Bill, Nihil Mike Markowski wrote: > > Hi all, > > You might remember a few days ago I forwarded a note from ab-cd.com, > who said they were selling a special edition of the Expo 2000 single > with a hologram cover. Well, AB-CD is either confused about what > they're selling, or they've stretched the truth a bit. The cover is > not a hologram. It's the same diffraction grating-like cover that is > advertised everywhere else. > > On the plus side, US $11 for the disc is not too bad and AB-CD's > service is as good as ever. But as far as I can tell, it's the same > single that you can get everywhere else. (Please correct me if I'm > wrong though!) > > Merry Christmas! > Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: (kw) FBI and Scotland Yard Date: 23 Dec 1999 20:50:17 -0700 Mike Markowski writes: You might remember a few days ago I forwarded a note from ab-cd.com, who said they were selling a special edition of the Expo 2000 single with a hologram cover. Well, AB-CD is either confused about what they're selling, or they've stretched the truth a bit. The cover is not a hologram. It's the same diffraction grating-like cover that is advertised everywhere else. But as far as I can tell, it's the same single that you can get everywhere else He's right. Here's the real thing: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=224745616 Another auction ended with someone selling the CD single as the limited edition of EXPO2000 claiming that 5000 copies were made (instead of the 4000 reported). This calls for "FBI and Scotland Yard". http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/expo2000a.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tadream" Subject: (kw) sleeves Date: 24 Dec 1999 08:54:13 +0100 can someone do me a Xmas favour and scan the sleeves of his/her copy of the Expo2000 single? please, send it to me privately thnx in advance ! tadream email: tadream@free.poltronic.net home page: http://www.adamszymanek.cjb.net icq: 35224126 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: (kw) Autobahn #25 of 100 best albums Date: 24 Dec 1999 11:42:37 +0100 On VIVA-TEXT are the 100 best albums of the century listed. KRAFTWERK's "Autobahn" is no 25. But this is not representative ;-) Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: Re: (kw) German "The Mix" missprint ? Date: 24 Dec 1999 15:32:12 +0100 > I have "THE MIX" on CD. In fact, it's the German version. The lyrics and > the titles on the backside of the sleeve are in German. But the titles > on the labelprint are in English, printed inverted: white letters on > black background. Has anybody informations about if this is a rare item > perhaps ? > > Thanks in advance > > Gubbolf it seems to be the official german release. but i'm a little bit confused about the "lyrics" you mentioned. are there really lyrics? merry xmas to all jan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk 'Expo 2000' single Date: 24 Dec 1999 14:30:04 -0800 Sirs: On 12/18/99 a friend of mine alerted me that you advertise selling the new limited edition Kraftwerk single 'Expo 2000' at www.ab-cd.com I quickly ordered this limited item as a gift, and at the price of $10.97 I couldn't refuse. Last night my friend e-mailed me explaining that he finally received the single from you and it is indeed not the limited edition version and is rather the common release that is available world wide at this very moment. This morning mine arrived and confirmed that this is not the limited edition single advertised by your site. Even during the time that I had ordered this product, the non-limited single was for sale within the US from multiple sources. You have now misled a number of my friends with this false advertising. I decided to go out of my way and telephone your company regarding this mix up. Unfortunately, you have the absolute worst telephone support that I've ever had to endure. Every single "option" ends up with the automated service hanging up. It is impossible to achieve assistance or to contact a human. Four long distance telephone calls later, I select the internet sales [option 1] and then again select [option 1] for availability and get the following "Sorry, a message cannot be recorded for ID 1001." You obviously have some internal issues that require immediate resolution. Your receipt makes the claim that "defective discs exchanged for same item only", but how can one go about this if there is no telephone option for doing so? I am totally dissatisfied and would appreciate any information pertaining to what is going to be done about the advertising of the single on your site as well as if there is a method to contacting a human in your company via telephone to return items. I suggest that for future note at least include an email address on the receipt because some people will obviously need to make use of it as well. Just to give you an idea of what you are advirtising for, here is a link to the real single: http://www.expo2000.de/deutsch/cafe/kraftwerk_e.html Regards, William Talley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: (kw) Future Music Date: 24 Dec 1999 14:21:30 +0100 Hi all, in the last issue (91) of english magazine Future Music there is the result of the nominations of the readers about the most innovative and important musicians/albums in electronic music. Innovative musicians: 1) Robert Moog 2)Jean Michel Jarre 3)Kraftwerk 4)Leon Theremin 5)Brian Eno Indispensable invention: 1)Sampler 2)Computer 3)Sequencer 4)Synthesizer 5)MIDI Groundbreaking album: 1) Oxygene - JMJ 2)Autobahn - KW 3)Switched on Bach - Wendy Carlos 4)Trance (sic) Europe Express - KW 5)Leftism - Letfield 6)Planet Rock - Afrika Bambaataa 7)Music for the jilted generation - Prodigy 8)Man Machine - KW 9)Tubular bells - Mike Oldfield 10)Cars - Gary Numan Strange: Computer World it doesn't appear in the top-ten of the most important albums of electonic music.......... Talent Of The Future: 1)Aphex Twin 2)Chemical Brothers 3)Goldie 4)Orbital 5)Future Sound of London 6)Autechre 7)Norman Cook 8)Massive Attack 9)Portishead 10)Roni Size / Prodigy Regards, Didi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Future Music Date: 24 Dec 1999 19:25:27 -0800 Wow, that's quite the pop list they've created. Not very realistic and only designed to appeal to the consumer level marketers and their prey. Who would have thought that the Prodigy would have made that list, let alone Leftfield? How very.. imaginative. I think that Jean Jacques Perrey was doing some fantastic work in the late 60's and early 70's that has not been represented properly. It is indeed groundbreaking and he, among a plethora of other true innovators have been long since forgotten over sales and marketability. Oh, and to all you 'Experience' people - shut the hell up. It's not "all that". Interesting that there is no mention of the recording mechanisms that have developed alongside the synths and shit. This is total Future Music magazine cheese. Aphex Twin released his LAST single 'Windowlicker' and is no longer making music under that name. Morons. Massive Attack? Roni Size? Did I miss something? They are certainly NOT the music of the future. Quite honestly, they make their living off of resuscitating the past. Roni Size/Reprasent is skillful, but where is Mu-ziq? I think that all of those artists are Brits.. perhaps that has something to do with that magazines choices and less to do with real groundbreaking and innovation. Black Dog productions, Plaid or any Luke Vibert are far better choices than Prodigy.. -Bill Didi wrote: > > Hi all, > in the last issue (91) of english magazine Future Music there is the result > of the nominations of the readers about the most innovative and important > musicians/albums in electronic music. > > Innovative musicians: > > 1) Robert Moog > 2)Jean Michel Jarre > 3)Kraftwerk > 4)Leon Theremin > 5)Brian Eno > > Indispensable invention: > > 1)Sampler > 2)Computer > 3)Sequencer > 4)Synthesizer > 5)MIDI > > Groundbreaking album: > > 1) Oxygene - JMJ > 2)Autobahn - KW > 3)Switched on Bach - Wendy Carlos > 4)Trance (sic) Europe Express - KW > 5)Leftism - Letfield > 6)Planet Rock - Afrika Bambaataa > 7)Music for the jilted generation - Prodigy > 8)Man Machine - KW > 9)Tubular bells - Mike Oldfield > 10)Cars - Gary Numan > > Strange: Computer World it doesn't appear in the top-ten of the most > important albums of electonic music.......... > > Talent Of The Future: > > 1)Aphex Twin > 2)Chemical Brothers > 3)Goldie > 4)Orbital > 5)Future Sound of London > 6)Autechre > 7)Norman Cook > 8)Massive Attack > 9)Portishead > 10)Roni Size / Prodigy > > Regards, > > Didi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk 'Expo 2000' single Date: 25 Dec 1999 00:06:14 -0800 On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 14:30:04 -0800 "William Talley" writes: > > Sirs: > > On 12/18/99 a friend of mine alerted me that you advertise selling > the > new limited edition Kraftwerk single 'Expo 2000' at www.ab-cd.com I > quickly ordered this limited item as a gift, and at the price of > $10.97 > I couldn't refuse. yo william, have you ever dealt with an on-line co.? and you're bitching over 11 bucks? are you human? do you make mistakes? no, actually i suggest you engage a lawyer and sue their asses.... have some egg nog gang.... tom w np: junior murvin - police and thieves ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk 'Expo 2000' single Date: 24 Dec 1999 21:52:35 -0800 It was rather stiff Tom, but I think that the points are valid. Yes, I suppose that since both industry and advertising stop for that brief moment of the year to reflect on the beauty of their humanity, I too should make peace and ignore their flagrant disregard for telephone support requirements and abusive marketing and sales techniques. I don't have any plans to employ a rather complicated scheme of both heaps of 4' talking shit that bitch endlessly about "their" humanity, actively assisting in the creation of a number of "skids" and a fleet of android children mariachi players controlled from various locations obfuscating as droves of old women posing as ice cream vendors with bells about their respective carts relaying instructions of the www.ab-cd.com's ultimate demise and my total satisfaction? Yeah, I guess I was getting carried away. Let them continue. Tis' the season. -Bill tweibrecht@juno.com wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 14:30:04 -0800 "William Talley" > writes: > > > > Sirs: > > > > On 12/18/99 a friend of mine alerted me that you advertise selling > > the > > new limited edition Kraftwerk single 'Expo 2000' at www.ab-cd.com I > > quickly ordered this limited item as a gift, and at the price of > > $10.97 > > I couldn't refuse. > > yo william, have you ever dealt with an on-line co.? and you're bitching > over 11 bucks? are you human? do you make mistakes? no, actually i > suggest you engage a lawyer and sue their asses.... > > have some egg nog gang.... > > tom w > > np: junior murvin - police and thieves # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Future Music Date: 25 Dec 1999 02:21:53 EST Groundbreaking album: << 10)Cars - Gary Numan >> What the hell is up with this? This is not the first time Future Music has refered to "Cars" as an album. I've never heard of Gary Numan's *album* called "Cars". What a stupid fucking magazine. It's not like I haven't bought it before. Cover stories on Yamo and Jimi Tenor are enough to grab my attention. Sam Paterson np: Gary Numan- The Pleasure Principle # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Gartner Subject: Re: (kw) Future Music Date: 25 Dec 1999 02:41:43 -0500 > Wow, that's quite the pop list they've created. Not very realistic and > only designed to appeal to the consumer level marketers and their prey. > Who would have thought that the Prodigy would have made that list, let > alone Leftfield? How very.. imaginative. I think that Jean Jacques > Perrey was doing some fantastic work in the late 60's and early 70's > that has not been represented properly. It is indeed groundbreaking and > he, among a plethora of other true innovators have been long since > forgotten over sales and marketability. It's rather apparent that the readers of the magazine read the magazine to find out what's new in electronic music. Therefore it shouldn't be surprising that the readers weight new music a little heavier in this poll. Also keep in mind that it's a readers poll rather than a critics poll. Still, many of the famous names in electronica are innovative due to the type of music it is. There's a million people making music on their computers, the only way to get heard is to be distinct enough to matter. There is a link between popularity and innovation in electronica and I think Kraftwerk is a rather obvious prime example of this. It doesn't always hold true of course - I despise the Prodigy as well - but popular outfits such as the Chemical Brothers and Orbital are truly innovatve. All that in mind, the list is *not* slanted toward newer and more popular bands. Take away Prodigy and Leftfield and there's nothing on the "Groundbreaking album" list newer than the early 80s. Do you mean to say that the electronica of the past 20 years hasn't produced anything as groundbreaking as the early noodlers? You can make that argument, but imagine how risky it would be to say that the first five people to ever play the violin were more important musically than Mozart... or that no groundbreaking rock has been made since the Beatles broke up... Sure, "Popcorn" is great, but frankly, new electronic music is a lot more relevant today. That's not to say Kraftwerk and JMJ and all those folks don't have their places at the top of the list, but the list should provide a good cross-section of time and include a few new faces. The list isn't very commercial at all in my view. An American poll probably would have put Britney Spears at the top... ;) > Oh, and to all you 'Experience' people - shut the hell up. It's not > "all that". Interesting that there is no mention of the recording > mechanisms that have developed alongside the synths and shit. This is > total Future Music magazine cheese. ...or Future Music magazine reader cheese, anyway. No worse than all the other millennial lists coming out in my estimation. >Aphex Twin released his LAST single > 'Windowlicker' and is no longer making music under that name. *NEVER* believe what Richard D James says in interviews. He lies. He'll be back. Probably with the name Aphex Twin. If not, he'll be back as AFX, Caustic Window, Polygon Window, Gak, or some other silly name. And his music will be awesome as usual. Rumor has it he's doing the score for "Neuromancer". > Massive Attack? Roni Size? Did I miss something? They are certainly > NOT the music of the future. Quite honestly, they make their living off > of resuscitating the past. The section would have been better titled as "Music of the 90s" because most of the artists on the list have already make their mark on the genres they work in (in fact, they've all probably already made their best albums). Roni Size more or less invented drum n' bass. Massive Attack more or less invented trip-hop. I don't understand how either of them "resuscitate the past". At least you didn't say Autechre and Orbital are unoriginal... > I think that all of those artists are Brits.. perhaps that > has something to do with that magazines choices and less to do with real > groundbreaking and innovation. Black Dog productions, Plaid or any Luke > Vibert are far better choices than Prodigy.. Aren't those three Brits too? Sadly most good techno is made there these days. We Americans like guitars too much and our record companies like dollars too much to let any worthwhile American techno get through to the public. Well, not since the Detroit days of the 80s anyway. Cheer up Bill, they're just trying to sell magazines. We'd like to see our favorite bands make the lists but it doesn't always happen. Just be thankful they included Kraftwerk. Merry Kraftmas -ericg- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk 'Expo 2000' single Date: 25 Dec 1999 08:15:16 -0800 On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 21:52:35 -0800 "William Talley" writes: > It was rather stiff Tom, but I think that the points are valid. > > Yeah, I guess I was getting carried away. Let them continue. Tis' > the > season. > exactly...maybe santa should bring u a cd burner and a tape deck... have a merry... tom w np: kw in nyc 81 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: (kw) EXPO2000 chart position Date: 25 Dec 1999 15:52:49 +0100 "EXPO2000" has dropped back to no 54 in Germany. "ascertained by media controll" Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: Re: (kw) German "The Mix" missprint ? Date: 26 Dec 1999 11:45:00 +0200 Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de wrote: >I have "THE MIX" on CD. In fact, it's the German version. The lyrics and >the titles on the backside of the sleeve are in German. But the titles >on the labelprint are in English, printed inverted: white letters on >black background. Has anybody informations about if this is a rare item >perhaps ? Mmh, I don't know, but I have also this version. Bought it in summer 1991 at WOM Munich ;-). Greets from vienna, Georgie -- * "Synthetic electronic sounds, industrial rhythms all around..." * * Heute Abend aus Deutschland: Die Mensch-Maschine - KRAFTWERK * * Georg Jajus (Vienna, Austria) phone + SMS: +436765621850 * * ICQ: 53829477 http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: (kw) kraftwerk on air Date: 26 Dec 1999 12:53:30 +0100 radio listeners in europe: tomorrow (27.12.1999) at 22.05 MEZ (or 21.05 GMT/UTC) you can listen to a broadcast at DLF Radio: "die menschmaschine von innen - 30 jahre kraftwerk" by thomas elbern. seems to include interviews with karl & wolfgang. for frequencies see http://www.dradio.de/dlf/freq/karte-txt.html best, jan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) "Expo 2000" on MTV-Germany Date: 26 Dec 1999 15:02:58 +0200 MTV-Germany just showed the "Expo 2000" clip, which climbed in the "German Hitlist" (official) from position 35 to position 11 (!). Not bad for a Kraftwerk-song, I would say - on the other side: no wonder, the massive media presence they and their "Expo 2000" jingle had in the last months... . (In austria, "Expo 2000" still hasn't entered the charts). Greets from austria, Georgie -- * "Synthetic electronic sounds, industrial rhythms all around..." * * Heute Abend aus Deutschland: Die Mensch-Maschine - KRAFTWERK * * Georg Jajus (Vienna, Austria) phone + SMS: +436765621850 * * ICQ: 53829477 http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: (kw) mix - german misprint? Date: 26 Dec 1999 15:41:16 +0100 hi gunnar (i've lost your mail address, sorry), just seen that the label print on the german version shows an english track list, but the correct german order number 568-7 96650 2. the "real" english version released in europe should be 7966 712. so indeed you may be right, the first german edition seems to be manufactured by a sleepyhead ... but if this makes the cd into a "kraftwerkian blue mauritius"? best, Jan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: (kw) EXPO2000 Date: 26 Dec 1999 07:54:03 -0700 Another bogus limited edition EXPO2000 CD up for auction on E-Bay... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=224120378 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: (kw) Ralf und Florian Date: 26 Dec 1999 09:28:26 -0700 Will the real Ralf Hutter and Florian Schneider please stand up.... (Found on the EMI Guestbook) "Thus, since I actually never planned to write here into the GB I do it now nevertheless. I read much here, and I can say all here on the Emimusic page that you arrive probably in January, at the latest in February, on our disk company, a new " let us sound whole sound product " in the loading find can. Many greetings, Ralf. Florian: I can only follow. We may say however not as much about the date, when the new album appears. Although, we hope that it arrives again good then in the German Charts. Much fun in the new millenium. P.S.: Who of you outputs itself there as Ralf&Florian? That would like to be gladly we both!" (BABEL translation) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Gartner Subject: Re: (kw) Ralf und Florian Date: 26 Dec 1999 12:34:22 -0500 > Will the real Ralf Hutter and Florian Schneider please stand up.... > (Found on the EMI Guestbook) >=20 > "Thus, since I actually never planned to write here into the GB I do it n= ow > nevertheless. I read much here, and I can say all here on the Emimusic pa= ge > that you arrive probably in January, at the latest in February, on our di= sk > company, a new " let us sound whole sound product " in the loading find c= an. > Many greetings, Ralf. Florian: I can only follow. We may say however not = as > much about the date, when the new album appears. Although, we hope that i= t > arrives again good then in the German Charts. Much fun in the new milleni= um. > P.S.: Who of you outputs itself there as Ralf&Florian? That would like to= be > gladly we both!" (BABEL translation) Hmm, probably a forgery, but I don't think Babelfish is quite good enough this time. Could one of our German friends provide a proper translation? Ralf H=FCtter& Florian Schneider schreibt am 26.12.99 um 15:49. Also, da ich mir ja eigentlich nie vorgenommen habe, hier in das GB zu schreiben, tue ich es jetzt doch. Ich habe viel hier gelesen, und ich kann allen hier auf der Emimusic Seite sagen, dass ihr woh= l im Januar, sp=E4testens im Februar, kommt ganz auf unsere Plattenfirma an, ein neues "Kling Klang Produkt" in den L=E4den auffinden k=F6nnt. Viele Gr=FC=DFe, Ralf. Florian: Ich kann mich nur anschliessen. Wir d=FCrfen allerdings nicht soviel =FCber den Termin sagen, wann das neue Album erscheint. Trotzdem, hoffen wir, dass es dann wieder gut in den Deutschen Charts ankommt. Viel Spa=DF im neuen Jahrtausend. P.S.: Wer von euch gibt sich da als Ralf&Florian aus? Der m=F6chte gern wir beide sein! And if is real, how come they haven't visited Mattwerk yet? hehehe...they'r= e never gonna get their halo! ;) -ericg- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peeters Ivo" Subject: Re: (kw) German "The Mix" missprint ? Date: 25 Dec 1999 18:58:09 +0100 > > Hello ! > > I have "THE MIX" on CD. In fact, it's the German version. The lyrics and > the titles on the backside of the sleeve are in German. But the titles > on the labelprint are in English, printed inverted: white letters on > black background. Has anybody informations about if this is a rare item > perhaps ? > > Thanks in advance > > Gubbolf > > On my copy, the titles on the labelprint are correctly in German. Ivo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "juno ." Subject: (kw) Back From Hell Date: 26 Dec 1999 09:49:58 GMT Merry Christmas to you all. Missed you a lot. Back home for good. Fill me in on all of the news. Love you guys. :-) Josh ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Fw: (kw) Back From Hell Date: 26 Dec 1999 14:56:24 -0500 Back from hell? And what did you get me? Huggy Bear np: Spiegelsaal # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) "Expo 2000" on MTV-Germany Date: 26 Dec 1999 21:49:20 +0100 Georg Jajus wrote: > > MTV-Germany just showed the "Expo 2000" clip, which climbed in the > "German Hitlist" (official) from position 35 to position 11 (!). The Top-100-List in VIVA-TEXT shows "EXPO2000" on position 54, not 11. "ascertained by media control". Is it unofficial or no more current? Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Sundkvist" Subject: (kw) Lyrics Date: 26 Dec 1999 20:51:31 CET Anybody out there who knows where I can get ALL the KW lyrics? I'm especially looking for the texts to "Mini Calcalateur", "Les Mannequins" and all the spanish KW material. /Erik ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Watkins, Jr." Subject: (kw) kw lyrics Date: 26 Dec 1999 22:27:04 -0500 This link has some KW lyrics for the German and English albums, the TDF single, and a few non-album tracks. Enjoy. http://zoutmijn.bpa.nl/rick/Kraftwerk/kraftwerk-e.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar R Johansson Subject: Re: (kw) Lyrics Date: 27 Dec 1999 04:27:42 +0100 john_lennon81@hotmail.com skrev 1999-12-26 20.51: >Anybody out there who knows where I can get ALL the KW lyrics? I'm >especially looking for the texts to "Mini Calcalateur", "Les Mannequins" and >all the spanish KW material. Hi Erik, check this one: http://zoutmijn.bpa.nl/rick/Kraftwerk/ -- Gunnar R Johansson gunnar@gunnar.net - mer kontakt : http://www.gunnar.net/.sig # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) "Expo 2000" on MTV-Germany Date: 26 Dec 1999 22:47:35 -0700 (MST) On Sun, 26 Dec 1999, Georg Jajus wrote: > MTV-Germany just showed the "Expo 2000" clip, which climbed in the > "German Hitlist" (official) from position 35 to position 11 (!). I this point I have to wonder just how this "hitlist" is calculated. Who decides, and are they in the pay of the Expo people? Sure, Expo2000 is a nice jingle, but I'd hardly call it hit list material even if jingles could get on a hit list. -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * In the event of a real .sig, this line would be funny. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Spare copies 4 trading Date: 27 Dec 1999 15:19:04 +0100 I have been tidying my KW & EM collection up and have found some spare copies. If anyone is interested please get in touch. All are good quality some almost unplayed. KRAFTWERK - Cassette Organisation "Tone Float" - LP Ralf & Florian Philips 6305197 (with Emil Schult's comic-poster) - LP Autobahn RE 2400701 - LP The Man Machine Capitol 10C 068-085444 (SW 11728) (Spain) - LP Electric Cafe EMI 074 240644 1 - LP Computer World ES 10C068064370 - LP Computer World USA HS3347 - LP Computerwelt OG 1C0644631T - LP Concert Classics RANCH4 - LP Disco best SPRO8865 - LP Exceller 8 FR 6360629 - LP Kraftwerk 2 OG S6305117 - LP The Man Machine RE SN16302 - LP Radio Activity RE SN16380 - LP Ralf & Florian VEL2006 - LP Ralf & Florian DEL 6305197 - LP Trans Europe Express RE SN16301 - 7" The Model/Computer Love EMI 5207 (1981) - 7" The Robots EMI 192 2043587 (1991) (The Robots (single edit) / Robotronik (single version)) - 7" The Robots (different sleeve) EMI 192 2043587 (1991) (The Robots (single edit) / Robotronik (single version)) 2 copies - 7" Die Roboter France PM102 Electrola (1991) (Die Roboter (single edit)= / Robotronik (Kling Klang mix) -7" Tour De France ES 0061651867 - 7" Pocket Calculator JAP WBS49723 - 7" Radio Activity/Antenna 1J00682119 - 12" The Model / Computer Love UK EMI 5207 (mint) - 12" Tour de France EMI 052 1652506 (Tour De France / Tour De France / T= our De France 2e Etape) (Spain) - CD Tour de France 8874212 - 12" Numbers KLANGDJ102 - 12" Tour de France 12EMI5413 - 12" The Robots (1991) EMI 052 20 4358 6 (Robotronik / The Robots (singl= e edit) / The Robots (album version)) (Spain) - CD Autobahn 7461532-CD - CD Best of (Japanese edition) TOCP50115 - CD Computer World ELEKTRA3549 - CD Computerwelt 7461302-CD - CD Concert Classics CRANCH4 - CD Electric Cafe ELEKTRA25525 - CD Kraftwerk 2 941002 - CD Kraftwerk 941001 - CD Mensch Maschine GER 7461312CD - CD Radio Activity CDEMS1524 - CD Radio Aktivitaet 7461322 - CD Ralf & Florian 941023 - CD Schone Neue Welt... 9401 - CD The Mix 7966502 - CD Trans Europe Express CDP7464732 - CD Ultra Rare Trax CD123 - Book KRAFTWERK: Man Machine and music 0946719098 ELEKTRIC MUSIC - 12" picture-disc TV (TV2 / Television) SPV 050-92675 (Germany) - 12" TV (TV2 / Television) SPV 050-92675 (Germany) - CD Esperanto SPV92832 YAMO - CD Musica Obscura CLP01190 - LP Musica Obscura 8846696 I also have: 7" LFO "LFO" UK (new) 12" Assembly "Never Never" Spain (mint) 12" A-HA "Take On Me" Spain (ex.) CD Erasure "Bjorn Again" UK (new) 12" Depeche Mode ("Just Can't Get Enough", "People Are People", etc.) UK (news) LP Azul y Negro "Mercado Com=FAn" Spain (mint) 12" Azul y Negro "Es el colmo" Spain (mint) I also have some Kraftwerk and Elektric Music cuttings, photocopies of press and magazines articles, articles in Spanish fanzines, videos, audio= s, etc. I require in Kraftwerk and Elektric Music records in any format, video-tapes, cuttings, posters, memorabilia, photos, publicity, press articles, etc. I have got two items of "The Complete Kraftwerkers Guide To Bootleg CD's (So far!)" published by the Aktivitaet fanzine team. ;-) Tell me if you a= re interesed. I can sell or swap for any KW produkt. Please e-mail me directly, and mention what can you trade. First come first served. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred_Harding@idx.com Subject: (kw) expo 2000 Date: 27 Dec 1999 10:24:58 -0500 Most of the complaints I am hearing about the EXPO 2000 single seem to center around a belief that it sounds dated. I don't love the single, but my problem isn't with the style not being "up to date" enough. To me, KW have a classic sound. They don't need to buy every new bit of equipment as soon as it is rolled out onto the showroom floor. For me, they could be playing accousic instruments, and I'd still like their music. What I love about KW, (and find lacking in the Expo jingle) is the melodic aspect of their sound. It seems to me that KW have devised a nice background in EXPO that is still awaiting a melody to be played on top. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Watkins, Jr." Subject: Re: (kw) expo 2000 Date: 27 Dec 1999 10:47:58 -0500 I agree with the part about there being no melodic aspect, but I like EXPO 2000, it has a somewhat "sci-fi" feel which is good for a track about the world expo. IMHO, it sounds more grandiose than some of there previous stuff. The Kling Klang 2002 mix is danceable. I love everything they've done, and I too would still enjoy them if they were playing acoustics. Maybe if they give us a new album, they will suprise us with something like you said. > To: kraftwerk-digest > Most of the complaints I am hearing about the EXPO 2000 single seem to center > around a belief that it sounds dated. I don't love the single, but my problem > isn't with > the style not being "up to date" enough. To me, KW have a classic sound. They > don't need > to buy every new bit of equipment as soon as it is rolled out onto the showroom > floor. For me, they > could be playing accousic instruments, and I'd still like their music. What I > love about KW, (and find lacking > in the Expo jingle) is the melodic aspect of their sound. It seems to me that KW > have devised a nice background > in EXPO that is still awaiting a melody to be played on top. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "juno ." Subject: (kw) New US Deal ? Date: 27 Dec 1999 07:02:19 GMT Hey guys ! :-) Got a chance to see the Expo 2000 video on the EMI Germany site. Took them long enough to give KW some proper coverage ! To me, the track reminds me a bit of Yamo's "Speech Dancer". But that's just me. Anyways, I was wondering if anyone knew if the single or the mystical new album will be released anywhere else outside of Germany (I'm sure that this has been asked a million times, but I have a lot of catching up to do). And on that subject, does anyone know if KW has a new deal in the states ? A long time ago, I called up the Elektra offices and this girl told me that she really didn't know anything about them still being distributed over here or not. Really the only job that they've been doing is keeping all of the old Warner Bros. stuff in print along with The Mix. It just REALLY pisses me off that no one over here really knows what going on. I'll start a label one day and buy all of the North American rights to the catalog and do them proper justice (remastered, repackaged, bonus tracks; etc.). Most US labels don't know what the fuck they're doing half the time; nor do they realize the importance of classic artists like KW. My two cents, Josh ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Future Music Date: 27 Dec 1999 18:36:48 -0800 > The list isn't very commercial at all in my view. An American poll probably > would have put Britney Spears at the top... ;) The truth really sucks. Incidentally, I've found her to be an endless fountain of ideas to use over and over and over in my own work. >:D > *NEVER* believe what Richard D James says in interviews. He lies. He'll be > back. Probably with the name Aphex Twin. If not, he'll be back as AFX, > Caustic Window, Polygon Window, Gak, or some other silly name. And his music > will be awesome as usual. Rumor has it he's doing the score for > "Neuromancer". That is total news to me. I had no idea that he was such a media manipulator. ;) If he's really working on a movie score, then there IS a Santa Claus! I wonder if Kraftwerk have been approached for the "Sprockets" theme? Hell, if they could squeeze that much out of them, then perhaps they might be convinced to do a soundtrack too, like "Metropolis 9000".. Woah! Sorry, I was daydreaming there. > The section would have been better titled as "Music of the 90s" because most > of the artists on the list have already make their mark on the genres they > work in (in fact, they've all probably already made their best albums). Roni > Size more or less invented drum n' bass. Massive Attack more or less > invented trip-hop. I don't understand how either of them "resuscitate the > past". At least you didn't say Autechre and Orbital are unoriginal... The idea of what is the future in electronic music for me does not include anything redefining, groundbreaking or otherwise "new" from either Massive Attack or Roni Size. Just the re-hash of the same old beats, the same structure/composition, the same crowd. No new. No future. Jungle gets old and DJ's turn to two-step. Same shit, right? When they decide to take some risks, then lemmie know. You are right, they have already produced their best work. Not to rail against their contributions - which are great and important, but when it comes to Orbital and Autechre - they are in a totally different class of innovation and I have high expectations that we're going to see some REAL future-work from both. > Aren't those three Brits too? Sadly most good techno is made there these > days. We Americans like guitars too much and our record companies like > dollars too much to let any worthwhile American techno get through to the > public. Well, not since the Detroit days of the 80s anyway. I have to admit that the first electronic music that I heard was not from the states and that's fine (my dad had 'Autobahn' 8-track, 'Oxygene' vinyl). It's never really phased me aside from the real difficulty I had in actually getting any good music in the import-bereft state where I grew up. The Brits just happen to be a hotbed of very intelligent, innovative musical talent and I spend far more money on their artists than anywhere else mostly because it's more available to me. As far as the 80's are concerned, lemmie put it to you this way - at least I didn't lose my virginity to 'Home Sweet Home'. > Cheer up Bill, they're just trying to sell magazines. We'd like to see our > favorite bands make the lists but it doesn't always happen. Just be thankful > they included Kraftwerk. No joke, Kraftwerk releasing new material is the best gift I could have wished for. I hope that they feel like continuing to create after this project. You have a real knowledge and appriciation for the artists in debate. Thanks for sharing your views. -Bill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Future Music Date: 27 Dec 1999 19:47:51 -0800 Interesting response, Jim. You might not like some of the non-linear rhythms and melodies that R.James utilizes, but I think that there are indeed similarities between the two artists with select pieces. Overall, they employ totally separate styles using similar techniques. Both enjoy creating their own instruments and do not like to perform. Both automate a large extent of their performance and enjoy observing the reactions of the listeners. The meticulous, minimal programming of R.James and Kraftwerk make them natural bed companions. It's also fascinating that both are able to maintain the semblance of human activity in their sometimes stark music. -Bill "Jim L. Jones" wrote: > > I'm sorry, but since we're on this topic of the future > and Kraftwerk, can someone please explain to me > what is so exceptional about Richard James (aphex, polygon blah > blah). I don't put him in the same class as Kraftwerk, first of > all. I don't really find anything that I've heard by him to > be all that groundbreaking either.. earlier stuff reminded > me of old Cabaret Voltaire and other brit experimental > electronic stuff... I guess I don't get it when it comes to > him. Yet everybody talks about him like he's the 2nd coming > of christ. And I too am most encouraged by new material > from Ralf and Florian etc... even if it is just a 'jingle' > > thanks, > > Jim J. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: William Talley > To: Kraftwerk List > Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 9:36 PM > Subject: Re: (kw) Future Music > > > > > > *NEVER* believe what Richard D James says in interviews. He lies. He'll > be > > > back. Probably with the name Aphex Twin. If not, he'll be back as AFX, > > > Caustic Window, Polygon Window, Gak, or some other silly name. And his > music > > > will be awesome as usual. Rumor has it he's doing the score for > > > "Neuromancer". > > > > That is total news to me. I had no idea that he was such a media > > manipulator. ;) > > If he's really working on a movie score, then there IS a Santa Claus! I > > wonder if Kraftwerk have been approached for the "Sprockets" theme? > > Hell, if they could squeeze that much out of them, then perhaps they > > might be convinced to do a soundtrack too, like "Metropolis 9000".. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: angelo@urbi.com.br Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk 2 Date: 28 Dec 1999 10:25:59 +0000 Hi! Does anybodys know where i'll can find Kraftwerk 2 in mp3? I tryed go to site from wettin but they are difficult to open the page! With thanks... Angelo. Essa mensagem foi enviada pelo Webmail Urbi Network http://www.urbi.com.br/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: (kw) EXPO2000 Vinyl misprint Date: 28 Dec 1999 16:16:32 +0100 Has anybody noticed that there is really a misprint on the B-Side of the vinyl maxi of "EXPO2000" ? There is printed "B-33RPM" in large letters. I played it at 33rpm, and: too slow. The B-Side has to be played at 45rpm. btw: the KK-MIX 2002 on the vinyl maxi is a little bit different to the maxi-cd version. Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elekktro@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO2000 Vinyl misprint Date: 28 Dec 1999 10:58:50 EST Gunnar Wess wrote: > btw: the KK-MIX 2002 on the vinyl maxi is a little bit different to the > maxi-cd version. Is it the same version as on the ltd. double-CD, which should have slightly more powerful beats than the regular 2002-version, or do we have three different versions of this funky track now? Regards, Elekktro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "nsw" Subject: Re: (kw) Future Music Date: 28 Dec 1999 15:45:12 -0500 I know this is late, but I just have to comment. How can a sampler be number 1? If the synth hadn't been invented, we never would even have electronic music as most of it is. The sampler probably would never have come about either. If they have to have something besides the synth be #1 on their indispensible equipment list, it should be drum/rhythm machines. What a dumb magazine, synth second from the bottom! --Nate Their article on Yamo was pretty good though.... The magazine is prohibitively expensive here in the US so I don't read it very often. > Indispensable invention: > > 1)Sampler > 2)Computer > 3)Sequencer > 4)Synthesizer > 5)MIDI # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Future Music Date: 28 Dec 1999 13:36:32 -0800 >I know this is late, but I just have to comment. How can a sampler be >number 1? If the synth hadn't been invented, we never would even have >electronic music as most of it is. The sampler probably would never have >come about either. If they have to have something besides the synth be #1 >on their indispensible equipment list, it should be drum/rhythm machines. >What a dumb magazine, synth second from the bottom! >> Indispensable invention: >> >> 1)Sampler >> 2)Computer >> 3)Sequencer >> 4)Synthesizer >> 5)MIDI That occured to me too! There wouldn't be anything TO sample, if synths didn't exist. I guess, with so much of electronic music being recycling these days, rather than creation, the sampler IS the number one tool of choice for Future Music's readership. I mean, yeah, you could work hard shaping waveforms into unique sounds on a synth, but why bother when you can use a sampler to steal from someone else? For that matter, a sequencer isn't any good if there isn't a synthesizer to hook it up to. And if we want to get really picky, it should be pointed out that drum machines are just synths (or samplers) with a different interface than a keyboard. :> ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. D." Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk on air Date: 28 Dec 1999 13:54:56 -0800 (PST) Those of you who listened to the Dec. 27 radio broadcast on Kraftwerk in Europe: could you please let us know if you learned something interesting about KW or ex-KW members? (in english please) Thanks in advance. ===== Roger. rd411@yahoo.com Regor@webtv.net __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik J. Eid" Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 Date: 28 Dec 1999 20:46:24 -0500 I ordered Expo 2000 from AB-CD as soon as I heard of its availability. There was a delay in the release at AB-CD's end, but once they received it, it was shipped promptly and arrived at my home within a couple of days. I definitely recommend using AB-CD (http://www.ab-cd.com/) to hungry state-side Kraftwerk fans. I didn't get to listen to the CD until well after the discussions had already started on the listserv. Even so, what few expectations I had formed were not even close to what I discovered. I expected sounds similar to those of "Tribal" and "Tango" and "ZKM Untitled 2" from the recent tours. After a few listens, I find I'm enjoying it more and more. Even though I'm accustomed to the up-tempo Kraftwerk of the '97-'98 tours and the remix albums I've been exploring recently, I truly enjoy the ambience (both in terms of soundscape and the musical style) of the new track. The stark simplicity of the lyrics, which manage to evoke a certain - something, unconscious, I'm-not-quite-sure-what - flow well into the rich timbre of the sounds, which seem far more organic than the very cold elements of "The Mix". It does fall apart a bit when you listen to all of the tracks in a row, as the radio, 2000, and 2001 mixes are pretty similar. The 2002 mix is a fun lark, mixing the new sounds with the familiar feels of "TEE" and "Music Non Stop". I'm pleased with it. There was definitely a challenge in expanding a jingle into a viable song with some variations. While I won't say it's a classic on the level of some of their earlier works, it has its merits, and perhaps even points the way to a successful synthesis of the machine-like precision of later Kraftwerk with the warm sounds of their earlier days. Maybe this single is a bridge that will take us into the new album and some unexpected journeys... . . \_ +\_ + o_-/ . O . \-_o -=/- . . . . \=// . ---------\_______ ||O ___.______ /* Erik Eid */ \____||L/\_____/ /* eeid@wwnet.net */_______________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JTalbert Subject: (kw) [OT] Efofex is back! - "Stress" Date: 28 Dec 1999 21:32:27 -0800 Hello everyone! Sorry for the off topic post but I wanted to let all the fantastic Efofex supporters on the KW list know before making this public... The new Efofex CD "Stress" has now been officially released! No, I wasn't able to get this out BEFORE the Expo 2000 release as I had originally intended (due to the holiday rush at the pressing plant and other delays) but nonetheless, it is done! Stop by the newly updated Efofex page at: http://www.efofex.net/ to take a quick listen if you like. There are lots streaming and MP3 samples to listen to as well as a couple of extended length downloads. The spirit of Kraftwerk can be found throughout this release as they have always been an amazing inspiration to me since Computer World. Should you suddenly find your mouse a bit too heavy to open a browser window, simply follow one of these backdoor links to the opening track (short version): http://www.efofex.net/ra/the_forms__288e.ram - 28.8 stream http://www.efofex.net/mp3/stress/theforms__32m.m3u - 33.6 mp3 stream http://www.efofex.net/mp3/the_forms__160e.mp3 - mp3 download ...Repeating the tradition from the debut Efofex, for a limited time I am offering *FREE* promotional CD-Rs just for the asking. Just send me your mailing address! That's it! And be sure to mention that you heard about this on the Kraftwerk list as I will be extending this offer publicly within a day or so and I want to try and fulfill the list member requests first before the supply runs out. Also, there was once a very nice member of this list by the name of Heather Drain. Although I haven't heard from her lately, she might be surprised to find that the song inspired by a "conversation" we had is actually the *hidden* track on this CD! If anyone knows where she is, please have her drop me a note. Thanks all! And Happy New Year! Kindest regards, -John ______________________________________________________________________ http://www.efofex.net - soundofelectronics 000 111 001 10 100 111 0010 0 0100 0 1010 1 010 111 10 00 1010 000 ETX # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADivakaran@aol.com Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #370 Date: 28 Dec 1999 12:20:10 EST In a message dated 12/28/99 7:28:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: > I'll start a label one day and buy all of the North American rights to the > catalog and do them proper justice (remastered, repackaged, bonus tracks; > etc.). Most US labels don't know what the fuck they're doing half the time; > nor do they realize the importance of classic artists like KW. at the risk of restating the obvious... major labels don't exist to do important things - they exist to make money :-) ashok # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk on air Date: 29 Dec 1999 14:32:52 +0100 > Those of you who listened to the Dec. 27 radio > broadcast on Kraftwerk in Europe: could you > please let us know if you learned something > interesting about KW or ex-KW members? (in > english please) > > Thanks in advance. > > ===== > Roger. > you missed nothing substancial. there were some well-known anecdotes told by karl and wolfgang, covered with no less well-known music. For those of you who read wolfgang's and/or pascal bussy's books, neither wolfgang nor karl had something new to say. no new records, no new plans. i just wonder why interviewer thomas elbern didn't ask some more precise questions. (but maybe he did and received no fruitful answers.) the main thing i've learned is: for a portrait film wolfgang once more had to put on the red shirt he's wearing on mensch-maschine cover. and he said, it was making him sick wearing the shirt again. (we are allowed to assume that he had to have a shower after that.) 2000 regards to all Jan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andréas Hagström" Subject: (kw) KW. spanish lyrics Date: 29 Dec 1999 03:28:34 PST I got a promo from Argentina of Radio activity with spanish lyrics on the= =20 sleeve. The songs are in the same language as usual. Faz A: 1.Contador geiger 2.Radioactivity 3.radioland 4.ondas de aire 5.interruocion 6.noticias Faz B: 1.La voz de la energia 2.antenna 3.estrellas de radio 4.uranio 5.transistor 6.ohm dulce ohm Kraftwerk (Int=E9rprete) Producido por Ralf H=FCtter y Florian Schneider Grabado en alemania /Andr=E9as ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: Re: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #370 Date: 29 Dec 1999 14:32:51 +0100 > major labels don't exist to do > important things - they exist to make money :-) > > ashok yes - but are these topics excluding one another? best jan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg Jajus Subject: Re: (kw) "Expo 2000" on MTV-Germany Date: 29 Dec 1999 20:28:18 +0100 Wess schrieb: > > The Top-100-List in VIVA-TEXT shows "EXPO2000" on position 54, not 11. > "ascertained by media control". Is it unofficial or no more current? > > Gubbolf That's strange...MTV videotext says (page 176) that the german hitlist is based on the selling-chart...and check out www.mtvhome.de, German hitlist, there's Kraftwerk "Expo 2000" on position 5. Greets from austria, Georgie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: (kw) kraftwerk again on air Date: 30 Dec 1999 01:26:00 +0100 radio listeners in europe: as stated by DLF radio, a short report on the kraftwerk lawsuit shall be broadcasted on monday, 3. january 2000, at 15.05 MEZ (or 14.05 GMT/UTC) in the magazine "corso". for frequencies see http://www.dradio.de/dlf/freq/karte-txt.html best, Jan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "The [Quad]" Subject: (kw) -Roadwerk Ahead- Date: 29 Dec 1999 18:10:54 -0800 Anyone got anything on that US$31 Japanese "Autobahn Tour" CD? THX, J. E. v.F-B. B. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spacolley@aol.com Subject: (kw) Come%20and%20join%20the%20Kraftwerk%20IRC%20Channel! Date: 29 Dec 1999 22:15:05 EST Are the first 3 kw albums now officially released or at least legal. I purchased KW2 (green traffic cone) at a virgin megastore. The sound quality is apparently superior the the germanofon version, but the cover is shoddily done. I see these crown editions on the amazon.com and tower record sites. they one i have has an italian address, but some sources say they are swedish. I've also heard on the NME site that KW will perform in London selections from these 3 pre-autobahn albums. Interested in anyone's feedback on this. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kotta" Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO2000 Vinyl misprint Date: 30 Dec 1999 09:58:24 +0100 > Has anybody noticed that there is really a misprint on the B-Side of = the > vinyl maxi of "EXPO2000" ? > There is printed "B-33RPM" in large letters. I played it at 33rpm, = and: > too slow. The B-Side has to be played at 45rpm. > btw: the KK-MIX 2002 on the vinyl maxi is a little bit different to = the > maxi-cd version. Hi there, My vinyl plays fine at 33rpm, exact same speed as the CD. Have only played it once and I couldn't hear any difference from the CD = version, only that the sound quality is worse but that's down to my = really crap 12" player. What exactly do you think differs? /Kotta -- kotta@mindless.com http://www.kotta.cjb.net ICQ# 6963779 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: (kw) EXPO2000 Metastream Date: 30 Dec 1999 11:28:23 +0100 Hello ! Can I play this EXPO2000 Metastream offline? If yes, please tell me how. Thanks Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO2000 Vinyl misprint Date: 30 Dec 1999 11:44:03 +0100 Someone told me, a part of the first edition is mispressed. One part is at 33 and plays the "CD-Version" and the other is at 45 and plays "the other version". The differences are "klein aber fein", as we say in Germany. They did some changes at the drumming. The bass-drum sounds more like "Home Computer" and the hi-hat does more "swing", so all becomes more groovy. Gubbolf > Hi there, > My vinyl plays fine at 33rpm, exact same speed as the CD. > Have only played it once and I couldn't hear any difference from the CD version, only that the sound quality is worse but that's down to my really crap 12" player. What exactly do you think differs? > > /Kotta # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk on air Date: 30 Dec 1999 13:44:19 +0100 > i didn't hear that broadcast. i live in USA, but i checked the site of the > NME (UK music mag.) it said kw will do a concert in London and it will > feature pieces from their first 3 albums. you know, the out-of-print ones > before Autobahn. > jim wickson. email spacolley@aol.com really?? that would be a TRUE sensation ... i can hardly imagine that. do you know, where NME got that information from? as far as i know, they didn't perform the pre-autobahn material since the mid-seventies! i can remember a concert at a rock festival in 1972 with ralf, florian and wolfgang. there, to the best of my memory, they played tanzmusik, ruckzuck, atem (yes, really! solo breathing by florian!) and a strange improvisation on klingklang, but it must have been more or less the last performance they did in germany for years. ciao, Jan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Per Odeltorp Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk on air Date: 30 Dec 1999 14:04:31 +0100 >> i didn't hear that broadcast. i live in USA, but i checked the site of the >> NME (UK music mag.) it said kw will do a concert in London and it will >> feature pieces from their first 3 albums. you know, the out-of-print ones >> before Autobahn. >> jim wickson. email spacolley@aol.com > >really?? that would be a TRUE sensation ... Yes, a true sensation indeed. A check at the NME site reveals that the news item in question was published April 7, 1998, and was probably a part of the ever ongoing KW disinformation campaign. /p # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ouija@mail.com Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 CD in New York. Date: 30 Dec 1999 12:44:50 -0500 Just curious to know how "limited edition" the Expo 2000 CD single with the hologram cover is. HMV In New York City started carrying them this week, and I haven't seen any of the ones *without* the hologram cover thus far. I noticed that the track listing was ordered: 1 EXPO2000 RADIO MIX 3.35 2 EXPO2000 KLING KLANG MIX 2000 6.48 3 EXPO2000 KLING KLANG MIX 2002 5.36 (funky sounding mix) 4 EXPO2000 KLING KLANG MIX 2001 6.50 Is this the correct listing or was there a printing error? P.S. - I like the new material very much! ouija@mail.com __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) -Roadwerk Ahead- Date: 30 Dec 1999 11:45:49 -0800 >Anyone got anything on that US$31 Japanese "Autobahn Tour" CD? From what I've heard, it's just the Japanese issue of "Concert Classics", with different packaging! ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 CD in New York. Date: 30 Dec 1999 11:55:29 -0800 > Just curious to know how "limited edition" the Expo 2000 >CD single with the hologram cover is. HMV In New York City >started carrying them this week, and I haven't seen any of the >ones *without* the hologram cover thus far. It is a REAL hologram, or is it an optical illusion using corrigated plastic, like that Tool album? ---Jason Jason Polland International Sports Sciences Association Multimedia and Web Design http://www.issaonline.com 1-800-892-ISSA (805) 884-8111 / Fax (805) 884-8119 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg Jajus Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO2000 Vinyl misprint Date: 30 Dec 1999 23:14:57 +0100 Wess schrieb: > > The differences are "klein aber fein", as we say in Germany. ;-)=) Could anybody upload it as an MP3, please ;-)? > They did > some changes at the drumming. > The bass-drum sounds more like "Home Computer" and the hi-hat does more > "swing", so all becomes more groovy. Mmh, so it fits to be played in a techno-club? Well, unfortunately this 12" Vinyl isn't available in austria, not even at the EMI-store and/or Virgin megastore. Seems I have to order it somwhere online... . Greets from vienna, Georgie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spacolley@aol.com Subject: (kw) Come%20and%20join%20the%20Kraftwerk%20IRC%20Channel! Date: 30 Dec 1999 22:17:58 EST I've recieved an e-mail from a Phil at music-non-stop UK. and he said these crown issues are in fact "official" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: m.schmidt@top.east.de Subject: (kw) Kling Klang Studio... Date: 28 Dec 1999 18:11:00 +0100 Erstellt am: 28.12.99 - ist aber nicht unbedingt der Absendetag.=B7 Hallo Kraftwerk-Fans! Ich habe geh=F6rt, da=DF Ralf H=FCtter und Florian Schneider ihr altes Kl= ing =20 Klang Studio aufgel=F6st haben und in andere R=E4umlichkeiten umziehen wo= llen. Das Tor zum Hof steht jetzt auch immer wieder l=E4ngere Zeit offen. Das =20 k=F6nnte ein Zeichen sein das es es stimmt. Hat jemand eine Ahnung ob es stimmt? -- Mit elektrischen Gr=FC=DFen,=B7 Marko ----------------------------------------------------- Germankraft die deutsche Kraftwerk-Homepage:www.kraftwerk.mdis.de ----------------------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: robot@average.nu (Roboten) Subject: (kw) Expo 2014 Date: 31 Dec 1999 05:04:29 GMT A tribute to our men in in black (and green and cool sunglasses) http://average.nu/E2k2014.mp3 Happy new 2000 (or 1980 or what it will be 1/1-????) /Martin aka Roboten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "davethewave@excite.com" Subject: (kw) manchester Date: 31 Dec 1999 09:49:49 -0800 (PST) yesterday i finally managed to buy expo 2000. i think i may of found one of the cheapest copies in the uk. at the virgin megastore in manchester it cost me =A33.99. it may of been priced up as a uk release by mistake..but who cares!!! _______________________________________________________ Visit Excite Shopping at http://shopping.excite.com=20 The fastest way to find your Holiday gift this season # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/